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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Report on international status of open source - http://is.gd/GEVIIvJan 17 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] "India is the most atypical country, because in spite of its low IS level, it has attained a significant level of OSS development" (ibid)Jan 17 00:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Linux kernel ASLR analysis by @xorlgr - http://is.gd/vZ6irqJan 17 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Energia: #ironsky - the most brutally honest making of videos in the film business: http://t.co/bnrsxXGJan 17 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jamesm Report on international status of open source - http://is.gd/GEVIIvJan 17 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jamesm "India is the most atypical country, because in spite of its low IS level, it has attained a significant level of OSS develop ...Jan 17 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Added a Facebook iframe to a client's site. Feel dirty.Jan 17 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed.Jan 17 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting story in Economist about OSS - http://www.economist.com/node/17899970?story_id=17899970 #fbJan 17 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #VMware buys NeoAccel? Just use RHEL to take care of this (full solution)... or install the #OpenVPN / #ipsec packages of #RHEL on #ESXJan 17 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @gbraad #VMware buys NeoAccel? Use RHEL to take care of this (full solution)... or install the #OpenVPN / #ipsec packages of #RHEL on #ESXJan 17 01:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @arjenlentz RT @glynmoody Will #Microsoft Remove DOC Format Support? http://bit.ly/fga22b #OOXML docs on the Web "peaking at less than 3%"Jan 17 01:40
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amarsh04schestowitz, I must try to borrow a decent camera and get you some pictures of a 20? storey black tower in Adelaide for which Oracle has naming rights and illuminated Oracle signs on the topJan 17 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Nouveau Fermi Acceleration Merged Into X Driver: The Nouveau (and PathScale) developers working on reverse-engin... http://bit.ly/eIfxRrJan 17 02:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @neilhimself: In ABC Hobart for Nerdzilla podcast. Suspicious looking gents about to interview me. http://twitpic.com/3qr8dfJan 17 02:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] The definition of fascism http://is.gd/RXFD82Jan 17 02:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Just got my copy of Pro !Drupal 7 Development. Thinner than D6 edition. How is that possible? Very small line height, it seems.Jan 17 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Social Networking Vulnerable, Federate It To Protect It (Part 2) http://amplify.com/u/bma14Jan 17 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Social Networking Vulnerable, Federate It To Protect It (Part 2) http://post.ly/1UrGLJan 17 03:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me is revising my colleagues slides about agile development methodsJan 17 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @linuxtoy 飞信 #OpenFetion #Pidgin Plugin http://linuxtoy.org/archives/openfetion-pidgin-plugin.htmlJan 17 04:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I want a light-up codpiece. #electricsix #ftwJan 17 05:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Xfce 4.8 Desktop Environment Released: After a pre-releases came in November and then another in December, Xfce ... http://bit.ly/fPEE9rJan 17 05:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Newspapers do not inform the public, they try to create optimism. Economy said to be "improving", but next year now said to be worst so far.Jan 17 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.S. Bills States $1.3 Billion in Interest Amid Tight Budgets http://is.gd/nwPerp in late 2008 they said 2010 would already be goodJan 17 05:36
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twitterI hate to link to the NYT, but this is funny.  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=generalJan 17 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Optimism which is based on fallacies always leads to disappointment at the end (and no preparation), except for optimism about afterlifeJan 17 05:38
twitterit looks like law jobs have been outsourced too.Jan 17 05:39
twitter"Since 2008, some 15,000 attorney and legal-staff jobs at large firms have vanished, according to a Northwestern Law study. Associates have been laid off, partners nudged out the door and recruitment programs have been scaled back or eliminated.Jan 17 05:39
twitter And with corporations scrutinizing their legal expenses as never before, more entry-level legal work is now outsourced to contract temporary employees, both in the United States and in countries like India. It’s common to hear lawyers fret about the sort of tectonic shift that crushed the domestic steel industry decades ago."Jan 17 05:39
twitterThe article is mostly an expose on what a scam law school is, but the root of the problem is the same consolidation, aka concentration of wealth, that has plagued every other profession.Jan 17 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Camden, NJ braces for deep police, fire cuts http://is.gd/QObP2q police cut good, but rescue services?! Also education gets cut these days.Jan 17 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is a wrong supposition that an educated population makes a stabler nation,but it's actually the opposite.Educated don't follow orders.Jan 17 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Solar Panel Maker Moves Work to China http://is.gd/fbzELm like everything production-based, increasingly 'paper-pushers' too. #chinaJan 17 05:45
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schestowitz[02:01] <amarsh04> schestowitz, I must try to borrow a decent camera and get you some pictures of a 20? storey black tower in Adelaide for which Oracle has naming rights and illuminated Oracle signs on the topJan 17 05:45
schestowitzThat would be niceJan 17 05:45
schestowitzHi, twitterJan 17 05:46
schestowitzI didn't read IRC till now...Jan 17 05:46
schestowitz[05:39] <twitter> it looks like law jobs have been outsourced too.Jan 17 05:46
schestowitzYes, Microsoft's as wellJan 17 05:46
schestowitzChina or India... in Microsoft's case the latter for paralegals and suchJan 17 05:47
schestowitzmorning, BobJonkman!Jan 17 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Re Solar Panel Plant, that comment sounds like it could have come from Gene Quinn.Jan 17 05:48
BobJonkmanGood morning, schestowitz!Jan 17 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Law School a Losing Game? http://is.gd/4o1r2d new example of 'paper pushing' jobs moving to China.Microsoft lawyers relocated to India...Jan 17 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter Gene Quinn's job too is at risk. The new Gene will have a surname like Singh and he'll be a lot less pompous, more polite.Jan 17 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Allowing national debt to grow is partly a political move intended to assure re-election based on 'feeling', but grandchildren take the tollJan 17 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Amarok 2.4 "Slipstream" Released http://is.gd/eDUJrg !kdeJan 17 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Gene is quite well aware of this, and the negative effects it is having on a country that he loves.Jan 17 05:57
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twitterHappy MLK day.Jan 17 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 418 Intharas private interview. http://bit.ly/dzfcLY #weblit #webfic #fantasy #journalismJan 17 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should you move to Arch Linux? http://is.gd/npO1nn "you are guaranteed to have learned a lot about how your operating system" #archlinuxJan 17 05:58
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schestowitztwitter: http://buytaert.net/happy-tenth-birtday-drupalJan 17 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Buggy X Drivers Blocking Hardware Acceleration In #Firefox For !Linux http://is.gd/hNC33Y "Maybe Wayland could be the answer?"Jan 17 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy tenth birthday #Drupal http://is.gd/uX7HA5 wonderful piece of free software, championing the Web. !gpl #cmsJan 17 06:00
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twitterWhile some US officials ludicrously claim King would favor the ware in Afghanistan, his "Poor People's Campaign" of 1968 has new resonance because poverty in the US is more equal opportunity.  http://www.thenation.com/article/dr-martin-luther-kings-economics-through-jobs-freedomJan 17 06:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter they all say they love the country but they also love cheap labour.Worker protections weakened again over time, wages stagnateJan 17 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Gene would prefer all manufacturing came back to USA. He can add, and knows what cheap manufacturing is doing to the country.Jan 17 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Security on *NIX http://is.gd/0nwFmb "You must also never forget to limit access to your computer."Jan 17 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Security on 'Nix - pray to the great god 777, rwxrwxrwx!Jan 17 06:06
twitterMillions of families losing their homes and US banks are on the verge of collapse http://www.alternet.org/economy/149543/the_stakes_are_huge:_there's_another_bank_crash_looming,_and_we_must_prevent_another_bailout?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=alternetJan 17 06:08
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twitterI read elsewhere that 12 million families will lose their homes in the next year or two.Jan 17 06:08
schestowitztwitter: oh, you drama queen! /sarcasmJan 17 06:09
schestowitzThe economy is recovering!Jan 17 06:09
schestowitzAsk the government.Jan 17 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How To Pick The Best !GNU !Linux Distribution [For You] http://is.gd/amQuqY #PCLInuxOS on top - good choice, I agreeJan 17 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter yes, it was a mistake to let it go. But that's what happens when decisions are made only for the ones who get bonuses.Jan 17 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter cue some #mono maniac taking this out of context :-)Jan 17 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz One of Gene's main worries, is the short sightedness of management.Jan 17 06:10
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schestowitztwitter: probably likelyJan 17 06:13
schestowitzre familiesJan 17 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz You mean Miguel's #mono #morons are still around? Thought they'd died off like the #dinosaurs .Jan 17 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter OK, but why revolve around what WatchTroll believes?Jan 17 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz And yes, I'm in a bitchy mood this evening. Leg hurts like hell. Oh, and did you read my article on false prophets?Jan 17 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter apparently not. They still flood !techrights with attention this week, for reasons I don't understand (I *think* Banshee)Jan 17 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter not yet, I'm catching up after coding all day yesterdayJan 17 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Gene isn't the enemy. The enemy is the USPTO, and the companies that misuse it. Gene is another victim.Jan 17 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Miguel's #mono #morons do scream like #banshees , don't they?Jan 17 06:16
utsuwaBanshee is still going into Ubuntu?Jan 17 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Ah well, it should have pissed off most of the Irreligious Right in the Excited States of Hamerica.Jan 17 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I already read your RSS feed and if you dented it, then I'll see it very shortly as I catch up with 2-day archive of identicaJan 17 06:18
twitterI have not seen otherwise, have you?  -> utsuwa: Banshee is still going into Ubuntu?Jan 17 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz I'm off to bed, starting to fall asleep sitting upright, which is not good. OK, you should see it, I Dent everything.Jan 17 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter but he is a booster and apologist of it, although a tad schizophrenic at timesJan 17 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter not necessarilyJan 17 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter it's the only way they can feel they win an argumentJan 17 06:20
schestowitzutsuwa: yesJan 17 06:21
schestowitzIt's in thew nightly builds of narwalJan 17 06:21
utsuwaHmm, that just plain wrong...Jan 17 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter On Friday I had a calm discussion with some people and one 23-y-o who disagreed with me starts crying. Weak 'rebuttal'.Jan 17 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter ok, catch you 'round the clockJan 17 06:21
schestowitzutsuwa: I think I'll stop installing UbuntuJan 17 06:22
schestowitzFor me and othersJan 17 06:22
schestowitzBut I wait for a response from jonoJan 17 06:22
schestowitzThe mono boosters are already all over him this weekendJan 17 06:22
utsuwaI stopped long time ago, around after 9,10 releaseJan 17 06:22
schestowitzDoing their lobbying/damage controlJan 17 06:22
schestowitzI find it a tad amusing that the mono boosters do the opposite of what they should doJan 17 06:23
utsuwawhich is?Jan 17 06:23
schestowitzThey give more visibility to the controversy rather than ignore. PR fail.Jan 17 06:23
schestowitzutsuwa: I don't quite follow that last line..Jan 17 06:23
utsuwaahh... that's right. Well I guess I will start introducing Trisquel to peersJan 17 06:24
schestowitzIt's based on Ubuntu but without the chaffJan 17 06:24
schestowitzMint is OK, but has gnome-do (mono)Jan 17 06:24
schestowitzPCLinuxOS is good...Jan 17 06:24
schestowitzIf you don't need lots of very advanced softwareJan 17 06:25
utsuwapclinuxos has horible plyomouthJan 17 06:25
utsuwamint is good indeed, use it wt workJan 17 06:25
utsuwau r on the Fedora 14, right?Jan 17 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see a new project to manage DeltaCloud.org - http://www.aeolusproject.org/ #fbJan 17 06:30
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cubezzzI have a nice set of linux boxesJan 17 06:30
cubezzzSlitaz, BL3, FC1, Debian Lenny, Vector, Fedora 10, embedix...Jan 17 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Ubuntu right to dump Gnome for Unity? http://is.gd/e2DmV4 misleading headlines.Jan 17 06:31
schestowitzutsuwa: at work-yesJan 17 06:32
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utsuwaso you use ubuntu at home?Jan 17 06:33
schestowitzsome of the timeJan 17 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Essentials: What You Need To Know Before Making The Switch http://is.gd/tAWEig "add-ons currently not compatible with Firefox 4."Jan 17 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick look at #Firefox 4 for Qt4 http://is.gd/WTZZxh might take me off #Konqueror but good for !kde and QtJan 17 06:36
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utsuwaI used koala and even installed xubuntu, but it is just too slow. crunchbang with stripped out not needed scripts is betterJan 17 06:37
utsuwaFedora 13 was on my pc for some time, but it was not so pleasantJan 17 06:38
utsuwaI heard good stuff about 14 thoughJan 17 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical's Landscape should be cheaper http://is.gd/kKOxSm price is not the problem, freedom is. #ubuntuJan 17 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Szulik brought along his 9-year-old son Brendan. Szulik then left the boy alone to interview Young." http://is.gd/XLRkOK #redhatJan 17 06:40
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utsuwaI think it is useless to expect readers of OMG UBUNTU to understand the issues with mono. Most are there for the glare and not delved deep into linux world to appreciate such topics...Jan 17 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WebM and AVC: a critical decision http://is.gd/FpwOFu "Simply put, this freedom from licensing requirements is what makes the Web great."Jan 17 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Ribbon UI mock-up http://is.gd/eFCVPH NoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooJan 17 06:43
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utsuwaIts like showing a plastic toy to a child. They will want to play with it and think it is "cool", but won't care about hazards that plastics possessJan 17 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who don't know, "ribbon" is about Microsoft strapping software patents with longer lifetime onto applications. #swpatsJan 17 06:45
utsuwaRibbon for Libreoffice?!!! WHY??!!! I have NO need for it whatsoever.Jan 17 06:46
MinceRanother swpat they can depend on :>Jan 17 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola XOOM Makes iPad Look Like A Toy http://is.gd/Q2tlKj just *look* like a toy? #hypePad #Android !LinuxJan 17 06:48
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MinceRand a braindead GUI concept they can spreadJan 17 06:48
MinceRhoping that people will like itJan 17 06:48
MinceRhm, i thought toys tended to look like toys anywayJan 17 06:49
schestowitz[06:43] <utsuwa> I think it is useless to expect readers of OMG UBUNTU to understand the issues with mono. Most are there for the glare and not delved deep into linux world to appreciate such topics...Jan 17 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will Flood Wash Away !Linux Conference In Australia? http://is.gd/Wvn7RO that would be sad #lcaJan 17 06:51
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schestowitzMuktware is the opposite of what they doJan 17 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bombono DVD reached 1.0 http://is.gd/pdJiVy !linux !fsJan 17 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Gallium3D's LLVMpipe Is Speeding Up: For the past year or so we have been fascinated by the LLVMpipe driver on M... http://bit.ly/faNkb3Jan 17 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Today's call with youngest was pretty good. Now we're talking about getting rid of the phones.Jan 17 06:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The N900- Why I chose Maemo over Android http://is.gd/UyNhhx freedom versus rails - easy choice. #Meego seems nice.Jan 17 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Apple will never produce a device to match Nokia's N900 running the legendary Maemo OS." http://is.gd/3RCSQ2Jan 17 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz he has not used it for a long time, as it can hardly be used as a reliable phone. I would agree #theSteve would never make thisJan 17 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rite Aid Healthwashes Cigarette Sales http://is.gd/naJfhM the other day I spoke to a youngster who blamed 1930s generation for smoke deathsJan 17 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad maybe #SteveofLinux can target phones and not just tablets - they have "unity"Jan 17 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who say guns don't kill people join the NRA ("assassins lobby" -Mahr), people who say cigs don't kill people need PR history lessonJan 17 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich wiederhole mich gerne. Manche Leute sind herzlich unge-aignert für ihre Arbeit. #dioxin #csuJan 17 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Political Rhetoric, Before and After Arizona http://is.gd/zQPZCp watch the picture and weep. Descent to violence. When "kill" is hip.Jan 17 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Red Hat made Red Hat Network Open as #Spacewalk, Canonical should do same with Landscape.Jan 17 07:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz wouldn't amaze me if that is what he is after in the longrun. they are a member of #linaro already and #maemo proved Debian canJan 17 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer @schestowitz Red Hat made Red Hat Network Open as #Spacewalk, Canonical should do same with Landscape.Jan 17 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @jwildeboer to be precise, Red Hat Network Satellite is what is now Spacewalk.Jan 17 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Men of violence need "spirituality" http://is.gd/mcIVK1 http://is.gd/UyNw6d this can help confirm a correlation between 'faith' & obedienceJan 17 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @harishpillay @jwildeboer to be precise, Red Hat Network Satellite is what is now Spacewalk.Jan 17 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Awful PR for the Public Relations Society of America http://is.gd/IkCbFk "front groups and creating and disseminating fake news."Jan 17 07:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Is it true that you need an Oracle database to properly run Spacewalk?Jan 17 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slap on the wrist for Power Balance bracelets http://is.gd/G1ULGz Australian Competition and Consumer Commission cracking down on #quacksJan 17 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slap on the wrist for Power Balance bracelets .::. Size~: 43.33 KBJan 17 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some #quacks come up with ways of monopolising oxygen and #h2o http://is.gd/foJdr5 greed knows no boundsJan 17 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fabsh You can use postgresql instead - https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/wiki/HowToInstall#OraclePre-Requisites #fbJan 17 07:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Does !Wikileaks Have on Bank of America? http://is.gd/c0BkMb their aim should be to make people adopt critical skills, distrust banksJan 17 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Does Wikileaks Have on Bank of America? | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 53.63 KBJan 17 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Created new !debian USB installer RC last night. Now has Windows .exe to setup installer form Windows desktop. Reboot and install. #sweetJan 17 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @harishpillay @fabsh http://is.gd/oLUBOg Can be used since v1.2, but with limited operation: http://is.gd/TozVt1Jan 17 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Challenging one's own company/family/nation/planet is the highest form of patriotism; blind obedience is passive, leads to abuse or powerJan 17 07:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@ioerror (Jacob Appelbaum) is patriot of the year, so those in power fear him. Now, if only he joined #identica for rights to be protected.Jan 17 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad @harishpillay I heard it also isn't very straightforward...Jan 17 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad let's hope soJan 17 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer @schestowitz Red Hat made Red Hat Network Open as #Spacewalk, Canonical should do same with Landscape.Jan 17 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Also on !debian squeeze installer RC. Nvidia autodetected, Nouveau with 3D acceleration out of the box. No xorg.conf shenanigans needed.Jan 17 07:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62380153Jan 17 07:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 05:53:36 UTC - Identi.ca: Buffalo launches first Pogoplug device with internal storage http://is.gd/WbO3FB !linux #pogoplugJan 17 07:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/eokyere/status/26891097917628416Jan 17 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr@eokyere: RT @schestowitz: #Novell Promotes Proprietary Software > Novell started promoting #foss only after they bought SuSE and Ximian around 02/03.Jan 17 07:45
tessierWhat is OMG UBUNTU? Some blog or something?Jan 17 07:45
schestowitzNovell toned it down after the 2006 deal with MicrosoftJan 17 07:45
schestowitztessier: yesJan 17 07:45
schestowitzby non-techies, they mock those who areJan 17 07:45
tessierIt does concern me that Linux/FSF/FOSS faces its own Eternal September.Jan 17 07:46
schestowitzSee this classic: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-a-35-year-old-with-a-neck-beard/Jan 17 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dude, you’re a 35 year old with a neck beard .::. Size~: 37.9 KBJan 17 07:46
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_SeptemberJan 17 07:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eternal September - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 34.49 KBJan 17 07:47
schestowitzHad to look that up...Jan 17 07:47
schestowitzHow true, about USENET...Jan 17 07:47
schestowitztessier: I link to omgUbuntu a lot, I only mentioned the mono thing, politely. They responses politely tooJan 17 07:48
schestowitzThe mono maniacs try to incite people against one another to further their own agendaJan 17 07:48
schestowitzHere are two mono boosters hours ago: http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/26866507191418880Jan 17 07:49
TechrightsBot-tr@m4n1sh: @directhex He claims Techrights & Boycottnovell are not the same thing. Does it know that Ubuntu & Canonical are not exactly the same thing?Jan 17 07:49
schestowitzThere's dozens like this since yesterday... we seem to be a subject of focus these daysJan 17 07:49
tessierI'm guardedly optimistic that the Eternal September really won't be too bad.Jan 17 07:50
schestowitzEven Jack Schofield posts many tweets about it.. http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/26295827831988224Jan 17 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @FOSSpatents @verofakto My point being: if #boycottboy's "facts" made any sense he wouldn't need the vicious and despicable personal attacksJan 17 07:51
schestowitztessier: there's lots of that in AndroidJan 17 07:51
tessierThe Ubuntu people generally avoid LKML and project mailing lists etc. and don't really get in the way aside from distracting us with posts like the above neck beard piece.Jan 17 07:51
schestowitzMany Android sites become massive these days, attracting many visitors and people who don't know anything about LinuxJan 17 07:51
tessierThey attract more people to the issue and some of them will go deeper into Linux than just fancy eye candy.Jan 17 07:51
schestowitzomgubuntu is not the issueJan 17 07:52
schestowitzI'm trying to find their admins contact to explain something....Jan 17 07:52
tessierAs long as they cannot somehow destroy the core foundations, run Debian out of business (it isn't in business) etc. then hopefully they can't do much harm.Jan 17 07:52
schestowitzHe's being flooded with some messages against me, by mono and Microsoft boostersJan 17 07:52
schestowitztessier: they harmed Mandriva I think by attracting usersJan 17 07:53
tessierI don't get why anyone would be a mono booster unless they were being paid for it.Jan 17 07:53
schestowitzbut Manriva had a similar business modeJan 17 07:53
schestowitztessier: they areJan 17 07:53
schestowitztessier: see the people who promote itJan 17 07:53
tessierYeah, I'm not too concerned about them.Jan 17 07:53
schestowitzSome are Novell employeesJan 17 07:53
schestowitzFrom Ximian, Miguel's rigJan 17 07:53
schestowitzOthers are former Microsoft employeesJan 17 07:54
schestowitzSome times ago one was here baiting us for 'radical' responses to quote in his blagJan 17 07:54
schestowitzManish did the same thing on Sat.Jan 17 07:54
nisshhoh nice, didnt know the bot could pull the status from identica noticesJan 17 07:55
schestowitznisshh: are you on identica?Jan 17 07:58
schestowitzI could add yours if it's FOSS and in [EN]Jan 17 07:58
schestowitzUnless you mean the latter function of parsing dentsJan 17 07:58
schestowitzToby coded it for usJan 17 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: #Joomla 1.6 - Thoughts from Around the World! http://is.gd/oyaJFE !playogg !fs #cmsJan 17 08:02
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nisshhschestowitz, yes, @nisshhJan 17 08:03
nisshhi mean the function of parsing dentsJan 17 08:03
nisshhit was just cool when you pasted a notice link and out popped the status and info :)Jan 17 08:03
nisshhschestowitz, ^^^Jan 17 08:03
schestowitzI see... anyway, do you want your noticed added here?Jan 17 08:04
schestowitzIt helps us get news alerts, if these are postedJan 17 08:05
nisshhah rightJan 17 08:05
nisshhnahJan 17 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] We all wanna be big stars, But we don't know why and we don't know how,Jan 17 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] yay! found a home for my cat; people moving in to my old place are friends and will be taking george too! :) :) :)Jan 17 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix and when the counting crows sing that song, it's now so very ironic ;)Jan 17 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @harishpillay: What I read in that page translates into Oracle being mandatory. Not nice at all, bad programmers. Bad.Jan 17 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OpenIDM Design Summit Announced: One of the key control points in enterprise software is the provisioning or IDM... http://wmk.me/fDaysrJan 17 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh: it appears to be a very unfortunate fact.Jan 17 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BP oil spills and an end to snow http://is.gd/WQlHXo another great video from potholer54. #globalwarming #climate #fudJan 17 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @ruiseabra it is a historical legacy. It is hoped that Spacewalk can break those shackles.Jan 17 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @ruiseabra PostgreSQL support almost done. Needs testing, so volunteer to make Oracle go away from Spacewalk ...Jan 17 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 17/1/2011: Amarok 2.4 “Slipstream”, Firefox 4 for Qt4 http://is.gd/4XlpK0 !techrightsJan 17 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra has been an outstanding issues for years already. at least they now offer 'some' support for it. RH, pls assign some resources?Jan 17 08:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 17/1/2011: Amarok 2.4 “Slipstream”, Firefox 4 for Qt4 | Techrights .::. Size~: 133.75 KBJan 17 08:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/26911476086214656Jan 17 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I admit not having read all of your 12K+ posts. Note I said "only in part" (as opposed to "never").Jan 17 08:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/26916102999117825Jan 17 08:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents I wrote a lot more in other places like USENET over the years. I am more objective than you make people believe.Jan 17 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sweden cries wolf – and faces European court - http://bit.ly/eMgTpH "Moose hunters are a small but politically powerful lobby in Sweden"Jan 17 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo Still a good song. :)Jan 17 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Queso, it's my birthday, and I guess I really don't care when it comes down to it? ur1.ca/2v8cuJan 17 08:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sweden cries wolf – and faces European court  | EurActiv .::. Size~: 55.18 KBJan 17 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: Sadly I'm not a Java programmer nor a sql master but good programmers avoid database lock in.Jan 17 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The beauty of open source code: when did Red Hat Package Manager become RPM Package Manager - http://ur1.ca/2v8eh #fbJan 17 08:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: rpm.org Git Repositories - rpm.git/commitdiff .::. Size~: 12.95 KBJan 17 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stupid legal threat of the young century - http://bit.ly/id5MIj "this is pure legal thuggery"Jan 17 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stupid legal threat of the young century - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.39 KBJan 17 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Like, I get it, it's important for *me* but that celebration of existence is a solitary act.Jan 17 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mission Creep: How the ACPO empire hyped eco-terrorism - http://bit.ly/ek7LT5 time to replace the ACPOJan 17 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @ruiseabra ACK but without helping hands PGSQL support will take longer. But we are working on it as you can see.Jan 17 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mission Creep: How the ACPO empire hyped eco-terrorism | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 58.16 KBJan 17 08:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/26916476589969408 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/26918186041475072Jan 17 08:28
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I don't want to make people believe anything I don't believe in. When I see you do solid research like on BSA, I acknowledge itJan 17 08:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents you have a monumental task explaining why you promote proprietary software agenda while pretending to be opposite. #PR stenchJan 17 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last Week's Top Posts (Week 2, 2011) http://bit.ly/f7iYAqJan 17 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] For #l33tm33t at #FOSDEM - Pixelbar http://ur1.ca/2v8jn or Roy d'Espagne http://ur1.ca/2v8jt - or better suggestion? Please tell me!Jan 17 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra programmers? you mean developers (which can even be written without the need for 'good') ;-)Jan 17 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last Week's Top Posts (Week 2, 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 52.81 KBJan 17 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pixel Wine Bar - By Charles Kaisin (Sablon) .::. Size~: 67.64 KBJan 17 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: roydespagne_site - Accueil -  -  .::. Size~: 5.62 KBJan 17 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why you should always encrypt your smartphone - http://bit.ly/f1JISx v. thorough exploration of issues #securityJan 17 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ManU get held to a draw by !spurs - Awesome match, quality on both sides. !footballJan 17 08:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why you should always encrypt your smartphone .::. Size~: 37.93 KBJan 17 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I find myself decreasingly using #RSS (syndication, not my initials) and increasingly using microblogs to keep up with news. Good or bad?!Jan 17 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another thing is, E-mail volume is outpaced by # of responses received via microblogs - wonder why Google buried Wave (in Apache) hurriedly.Jan 17 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Facebook giving away your home address and phone number http://ur1.ca/2v832Jan 17 08:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rogue Facebook apps can now access your home address and mobile phone number | Naked Security .::. Size~: 63.61 KBJan 17 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Facebook, child-pornography, nude photos and identity theft http://ur1.ca/2v8skJan 17 08:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man stole nude photos from women's e-mail accounts | ITworld .::. Size~: 87.47 KBJan 17 08:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/26918486139736064Jan 17 08:44
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I did a post in December to counter any misconceptions. I made it clear that I have closed and open source industry expertise.Jan 17 08:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/26918757871919104Jan 17 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: Anyone taking opposite positions on issues can always point 3rd parties (press, policymakers) to that clarifying post.Jan 17 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Firefox says !linux drivers too buggy to offer same acceleration as Windows and Mac http://ur1.ca/2ur3dJan 17 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My #visa card is now officially cancelled (for treating !wikileaks like it was a terrorist organisation). #ifwlJan 17 08:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Hardware Acceleration Firefox for Linux Due to Buggy X Drivers .::. Size~: 24.99 KBJan 17 08:45
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62387887 https://identi.ca/notice/62388054Jan 17 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Ryan Macnish (nisshh)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 08:36:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Good, im the same, i use microblogging more than RSS to keep up now.Jan 17 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Robert Sanchez (robsanchez)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 16:39:07 PHT - robsanchez: @schestowitz reminds me of how Scoble ditched RSS readers for Twitter. I think it's ok information is information, wherever they come from.Jan 17 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix happy bday. we will need to celebrate in #plasma ;)Jan 17 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The official way to *really* delete your Facebook account: http://ur1.ca/232x - And DON'T login for at least two weeks after that.Jan 17 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes Just testing Gordons creation (the soon to be new home of !techbytes) great work! Excellent!Jan 17 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How The Press Attacks WikiLeaks, Julian Assange http://is.gd/Ec5YF5 !wikileaks #cablegateJan 17 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer yes, that's good news!Jan 17 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Prakash Advani: Google Nexus S http://goo.gl/DuIFv !androidJan 17 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Happily listened to a Radio24 program on the Wikipedia decennial. Public awareness of how the net is important to democracy is low in ITA.Jan 17 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Og Maciel: Announcing #Foresight Linux 2.5.0 ALPHA 1 GNOME Edition http://goo.gl/EAWY4Jan 17 09:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Foresight Linux 2.5.0 ALPHA 1 GNOME Edition « Journal of an Open Sourcee .::. Size~: 48.52 KBJan 17 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tunisia descends into anarchy as president flees after cables reveal country's corruption http://is.gd/OyP1P3 http://is.gd/Bm03yAJan 17 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz the real question being obviously *why* the press attacks #wikipedia.Jan 17 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'First Wikileaks Revolution': Tunisia descends into anarchy as president flees  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 87.09 KBJan 17 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Close Read: Tunisia and WikiLeaks : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 102.82 KBJan 17 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana are you suggesting it's like the press' self-defending ($$$) attack on #wikilpedia or was the hashtag a typo?Jan 17 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should the United States not commend #wikileaks for removing corrupt regimes? The #CIA has history installing repressive regimes, with coupsJan 17 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz that's a strethc. Corruption was known in Tunisia long time. No wikileaks needed for that.Jan 17 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Run !Unity Qt Panel Or Launcher In A Classic GNOME Desktop http://goo.gl/9RKqvJan 17 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] First day at work after 6 weeks of leave... damm 212 mailsJan 17 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Run Unity Qt Panel Or Launcher In A Classic GNOME Desktop ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 54.69 KBJan 17 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Where was the US press and US govt. when !wikileaks helped liberate Africans from some tyrants? Some #wikileaks volunteers died for it.Jan 17 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer but maybe it helped show it better, made concrete evidence. All countries' people need their embassy's cables. #cablegate #ifwlJan 17 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #WebM Decoder in Flash using Alchemy http://is.gd/UgSsFW #AdobeTrash trying to keep up with the canvasJan 17 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Did WikiLeaks do what the State Department could not? Time to rethink http://is.gd/ydWGHu !wlJan 17 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks disclosures play key role in Ben Ali’s outing .::. Size~: 163.04 KBJan 17 09:18
schestowitz"@satipera: !TB re no.25 when I started using Linux and had problems I said the same thing.. why don't they sort it out, eventually realised it was us."Jan 17 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secrecy is the problem, not leakers http://is.gd/bAfI5e "Ukrainian activists cover their mouths w/ US flags during a rally in support of WL"Jan 17 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secrecy is the problem, not leakers - Opinion - The Sofia Echo .::. Size~: 105.25 KBJan 17 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Evra: “Nobody in the !United squad is talking about being unbeaten. We’re only talking about winning the league. That’s most important."Jan 17 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Note ATM #WL only has (biased?) US cables to offer, so leaked info should be evaluated carefully.Jan 17 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Evra: [Winning the league without losing a game] is a great challenge for us, but the most important thing is to win the league.” !ManUtdJan 17 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] Wo waren die #Liberallalas als !wikileaks #Tunesien half? !piratenpartei !de !menschenrechte !freiheit !demokratie !politikJan 17 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China: No more award and prize! - http://bit.ly/h9nCgt bonkers: "censorship of the terms “award” and “prize”."Jan 17 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @arjenlentz RT @kangawallafox !lca2011 is officially on, full details coming soon via email #fbJan 17 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz: it was a typo :-/ However Wikileaks and Wikipedia have some common traits WRT their detractors.Jan 17 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] New Contributions features http://bit.ly/hdR6PcJan 17 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @telecomix #Malmstrom also wants to criminalize virus, malware and trojans. That should inlude .fr and others govts aswell (HADOPI?).Jan 17 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rsandu RT @nicubunu #anonymous Declaration - January 15 is the day to stand for #freedom http://t.co/rBGZ0G5 /BTW I don't endorse themJan 17 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter Barry Sookman Puts Foot In Mouth Again – Doesn’t Read Articles He Links To - http://bit.ly/gFH8db #copyright #humour #LOLJan 17 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More about the Chrome HTML Video Codec Change http://is.gd/Z3fjba opposition 2 #webm comes from all sources which exactly show why it's goodJan 17 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana yes, Fox is a leader detractor of both. !wikileaks has new leaks coming on Rupe and Fox 'News'.. I can't wait.Jan 17 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Run Unity Qt Panel Or Launcher In A Classic GNOME Desktop http://bit.ly/gnPy90Jan 17 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just installed Opera. Haven't used it for a year or so. Am impressed.Jan 17 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MEPs briefed on web sanctions in Hungarian Media Law - http://bit.ly/gGttcX but will they do anything? #hungary #censorshipJan 17 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I used to think that only atheism was the most hated 'religion' in the US. Then I saw this http://is.gd/XAWQ9M and realised "liberalism" tooJan 17 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter RT @thetecheye: “The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are sometimes right” - Winston Churchill #quoteJan 17 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cool, so you install Opera and instantly get; Mail, Blog, Music File and Photosharing, Web Server, microblog, groups.. :)Jan 17 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm Thanks @carwinb for huffpo vindication: http://ur1.ca/2ulb3 .. threats against #Assange .. whatever happened to #equality?Jan 17 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Death Threat Domain Names: Registrar Says Killjulianassange.com Will Not Be Removed .::. Size~: 350.96 KBJan 17 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks turned the tables on governments, but power relationship has not changed - http://bit.ly/eVGgok sensible stuff (v @evgenymorozov)Jan 17 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks turned the tables on governments, but the power relationship has not changed | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 120.86 KBJan 17 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL !q "How the hell is that a bribe? Do you wanna go see Cher in concert?" "No." "Why not?" "Cause it's not 1975!" ~ Ricky GervaisJan 17 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Amazed by how many don't get what's wrong w/ h.264 in . Those who trade Freedom for convenience deserve neither http://is.gd/Z3fjbaJan 17 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @linuxconfau Status update: Strongly confident that !lca2011 will go ahead. Awaiting some confirmations on Monday. // that's todayJan 17 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody if I understand this correctly, I diagree with your take on the #WebM as plugin thing. This is Free software, #RF , fights blobsJan 17 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @swadeshine Treasury Dept. won't put !Wikileaks on terrorist list; Says they don't meet the criteria > http://goo.gl/yH0rFJan 17 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Assange is labelled a "terrorist", what does it say about people like Henry Alfred Kissinger? #hypocrisy #regimechange #carpetbombingJan 17 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 Right wing talk radio host says to burn NY Times down http://ur1.ca/2uo76 !wlJan 17 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Local talk radio host Bob Durgin pulls no punches in wake of Arizona shootings | PennLive.com .::. Size~: 95.53 KBJan 17 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many opposers of liberalism are proponents of the "brave leader" approach, which accompanies fascism.Jan 17 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many opposers of adherence to science & truth are semi-proponents of anarcho-primitivism, IMHO. They learned nothing from the inquisition.Jan 17 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@Godaddy gladly helps CIA http://ur1.ca/2vb2x while refusing to remove kill domains http://ur1.ca/2sya6 #ThinkAboutThatJan 17 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GoDaddy pulls Pakistani website over CIA 'murder' case - Others not targeted  | TechEye .::. Size~: 25.53 KBJan 17 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WRT killjulianassange.com, killassange.com and godaddy | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 51.6 KBJan 17 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly, Issue 388 has been released. This week's feature story: Introducing #Zorin OS 4 http://goo.gl/59OKMJan 17 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 106.47 KBJan 17 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mary Fallin Suffers Constitution Oath Fail At Swearing-In Ceremony http://is.gd/GRToMw Freudian slip? See http://is.gd/BOaBHOJan 17 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] N Korea is #interventionalism key for far east Asia, Iran replaced Iraq as key to middle east, Chavez is the new 'key' in south AmericaJan 17 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DHS cancels virtual border fence http://is.gd/yYTEBk is the main problem really #immigration or is it the new #WarOnDrugs / #ColdWar ?Jan 17 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] (Bar Aztec) American was built very recently thanks to immigration. History short-lived (usually 1-2 generations).Jan 17 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Residents Allege Police Violations http://is.gd/eIggCV the real war (class war) is being waged, suppressed by fellow men (in uniform+check)Jan 17 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [sarcasm] In Russia, government taps BP http://is.gd/jeAqKPJan 17 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #cablegate / !wikileaks helped show that #BP hid another oil leak disaster near Russia, but the press mostly ignored itJan 17 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Irony Alert: NYC's Anti-Piracy Propaganda Campaign Using 'Free' YouTube - http://bit.ly/gXvCnqJan 17 10:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/26948086618132480Jan 17 10:44
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz I think we're agreeing...Jan 17 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody OK, so I misunderstood from brevity. Plugin is a blob in a different sense than binary (proprietary) blobJan 17 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rrix This is big! ♻ @markey: "So Canonical ported Unity to Qt…" http://ur1.ca/2uoehJan 17 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody "GM chickens" have another problem (not just the notion of "patented chickens") -- you never know what *else* they modifiedJan 17 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Great News everyone! It's official; !lca2011 will go ahead! Some venues & accom to be confirmed. More details: http://is.gd/NGpPyGJan 17 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody #GMO is like playing in a high-dimensional DNA hyperspace, pretending you understand what parameter do and don't do, then marketJan 17 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Markus’ Little Blog: So !Canonical ported !Unity to Qt… http://goo.gl/ziNmQJan 17 10:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62394339Jan 17 10:57
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TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 10:51:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @glynmoody  "GM chickens" have another problem (not just the notion of "patented chickens") -- you never know what *else* they modifiedJan 17 10:57
schestowitz^^Mass marketing of junk disguised as "Science", like MonsantoJan 17 10:57
schestowitzGene splicing... like handing something to a butcher for surgeryJan 17 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody to use an analogy I came up with, it's a bit placebo-like and they are more likely to incur devolution with untested permutationsJan 17 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Manish's ignorant apologism for the #tobacco industry makes me very dizzy http://is.gd/09YpjW he also trolled our IRC to collect "smears"Jan 17 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody GM chickens created that could prevent the spread of bird flu - http://bit.ly/g4YI2b as #RMS points out, patents could null...Jan 17 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @schwarzprod My quest for today: be even more awesome.Jan 17 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Wondering about the whole #h264 v #webm #vp8 thingy? http://ur1.ca/2upoq and http://ur1.ca/2upor can help.Jan 17 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Facebook is basically AOL with a different layout and all the same retro problems." -John C. Dvorak http://is.gd/ZR3xAn more like #MySpaceJan 17 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle:            Why I Don't Use Facebook | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com       .::. Size~: 78.4 KBJan 17 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Has Apple gone too far? Invisible hand becomes very visible. http://ur1.ca/2uqof I smell #Murdoch in the back. #FAIL if true.Jan 17 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff LibreOffice Marketing Conference Call this Thursday: http://ur1.ca/2vbz9 !libo !tdfJan 17 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes To be fair to #bbcclick they didn't give Ballmer an easy time at CES re: Tablets and Windows 7. !microsoft !windows !mvpJan 17 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French ISP Throttles Direct Download Website Megaupload http://is.gd/TdOcY9 #france #orange #netneutrality #failJan 17 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer When you order a Pizza via an App, apple wants 30% of the money.That's the logic they are trying to push.. http://ur1.ca/2uqofJan 17 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer "Most U.S. patents are commercially frivolous and irrelevant. " http://ur1.ca/2ur0k via @glynmoody // says a patent holderJan 17 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sacked teacher falsely accused of groping girls http://is.gd/pY4ovm ask #assange about false accusationsJan 17 11:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/26958036295749632Jan 17 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #DHS cancels virtual border fence http://is.gd/yYTEBk …main problem really #immigration: intolerance to natives/their cultureJan 17 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: DHS cancels virtual border fence - Jen DiMascio - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 110.52 KBJan 17 11:37
Diablo-D3heh, roy needs to redent my posts more =PJan 17 11:37
schestowitzyup, shrewdly said. Xenophobia helps distract from real issuesJan 17 11:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/d0od/status/26959835891236864Jan 17 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@d0od: @schestowitz We're jesting; we have no pro-mono editorial policy on @omgubuntu so it's humorous to be thought of as having one.Jan 17 11:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/26966055003885568Jan 17 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @d0od I know :-) keep up the good workJan 17 11:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/d0od/status/26961024275980288Jan 17 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@d0od: @schestowitz In fact it may be worth us running an article on the history of Mono and why people are divided on it.Jan 17 11:39
schestowitzThat would be informative, I suppose. Your readers would appreciate it, especially after the FAT/TomTom case and Motorola lawsuitJan 17 11:39
schestowitz^medJan 17 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo virtualbooze!Jan 17 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @torproject Dear @abc, your facts are wrong. http://is.gd/clcZhs // #abc #propaganda #fail //cc @ioerrorJan 17 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The corporate press in the US goes to great lengths to paint !Wikileaks as "criminal". Facts don't matter...Jan 17 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vote in the 2010 Corporate Hall of Shame! http://is.gd/BRRK5o where's Apple? And patent troll/attacker Microsoft? IV? #BiasByOmissionJan 17 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith re "US mother accused of playing on Facebook while baby died" - misleading, replace FB with *any* online activityJan 17 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Blockbuster http://ur1.ca/2uril #4sqJan 17 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer accepting or silencing on the face of injustice amounts to self corruption.given this requirement,I'd rather not playJan 17 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer I doubt naming GNU/Linux would get you excluded,or even less effective as FS/SF advocate,in Brussels or anywhere elseJan 17 11:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Blockbuster       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia        .::. Size~: 21.69 KBJan 17 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer ..lobbying is illegal in Brazil.that it might bring about useful results doesn't make it less of a form of corruptionJan 17 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer the only legitimate interest for a govt is the public interest, and lobbying attempts to steer govt regardless of itJan 17 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer ..lobbying for the public interest is a contradiction in terms;reminding public servants of their duty isn't lobbyingJan 17 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @jwildeboer or,if you include that in your definition of lobbying,then that is indeed non-corrupt lobbying,and not illegal in .brJan 17 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] False Prophets And The Green Dragon http://is.gd/mLL7Cv #externality (v. @themadhatter )Jan 17 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will The Free Software Desktop Ever Make It? http://is.gd/1Dy24s @phoronix speaks of !fs (by reference), which is rare. !fsfJan 17 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] German minister of finance Steinbrück didn't react to Elmers offer of data on tax evasion. #Scandal if true.Jan 17 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Swiss whistleblower #RudolfElmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to !WikiLeaks http://is.gd/vsxxqi #heroJan 17 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer: German minister of finance Steinbrück didn't react to Elmers offer of data on tax evasion. #Scandal if true.Jan 17 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Elmers will soon be painted a "criminal" for actually exposing criminals, who loot their nation with no shame, disregard laws. !wlJan 17 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikileaks' founder blamed banks -- not governments -- for hounding !wikileaks - #assange said that on #december17 (my birthday) #boa #baerJan 17 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks received many lucrative leaks and may need a lot more 'staff' to process the material. Thus the bank attack on the *phenomenon*.Jan 17 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A #whistleblower is almost always a good person unless we assume that secrecy is benevolentJan 17 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks - Israel Kept Gaza On Brink Of Economic Collapse | YT http://alturl.com/jv39x !wlJan 17 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb #Apple is a fashion statement; true, but fashions always go in and out of styleJan 17 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz: There is no difference b/ween #Elmers and #Falciani, bar that Elmers doesn't sell the list, but leaks it for freeJan 17 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer @lxoliva The term lobbying is a difficult beast. I agree. // Jan, cya @ the lobby 16:00. Bring suitcase. Benjamins. Kapish? ;)Jan 17 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer I 'borrowed' the term "legalised bribery" from CO.Linux.Advocacy to avoid the euphemismJan 17 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Yep, and in my suitcase is the UTNR immigration office ;-)Jan 17 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana if he sells a book, then #CNN will call him a terrorist ;-) http://is.gd/HEstRpJan 17 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz @carlopiana can/will amazon sell #Assange book or refuse it based on whatever rule they make up?Jan 17 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miss America 2011: "Wikileaks was actually based on espionage" http://is.gd/4qa5ex Miss Teen USA 2007 was less informed? http://is.gd/HkVdTPJan 17 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Paying Users To Report Fake Torrents is Illegal, Anti-Piracy Outfit Claims http://is.gd/Pg0kYKJan 17 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Paying Users To Report Fake Torrents is Illegal, Anti-Piracy Outfit Claims | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 131.94 KBJan 17 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lol! Opera has an actual fridge that you can stick sticky-notes onto :)Jan 17 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Anti-Piracy Outfit" is still a euphemism and MPAA/BSA/RIAA PR punch bags - they are merely front groups. Name the real culprits, e.g. SCOnyJan 17 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at IKEA http://ur1.ca/2rw5k #4sqJan 17 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer @schestowitz @carlopiana can/will amazon sell #Assange book or refuse it based on whatever rule they make up?Jan 17 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My Opera Fridge: http://work.richslxh.operaunite.com/fridge/Jan 17 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Opera Unite is a new way to share, connect and collaborate directly between computers across the WebJan 17 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Assange: "#WL has been economically censored by Visa, Mastercard, Paypal etc." - nice term!Jan 17 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RT @royhugo ♺ @yoannsculo: π%leet (pi% de 1337) = 42 !!! \o/ #ultra #geekJan 17 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @maymaym Scenes from ...protest I helped organize w/ @kemokid are coming online! From Justin Kauker's speech: http://youtu.be/3-_zHKjaX00Jan 17 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @jkuri RT @abuaardvark: This 8 year old essay by Asef Bayat on Arab protests and dissent should be must-reading today http://bit.ly/fll8MkJan 17 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Arizona shooting victim blames Palin, others http://is.gd/m4uSYz #Arizona #crosshairs #aggression #PalinInTheAssJan 17 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights is in the Hungarian news this morning... http://is.gd/Ru3jmy #hungary #bsa #emc #ibm #europe #microsoft #proprietaryLobbyJan 17 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What the "right to bear arms" really means http://is.gd/fxX8jUJan 17 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't just treat, instead LOAD. http://is.gd/QXzzKm #sharing #tolerance #gunrhetoricJan 17 12:45
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Diablo-D3roy just retweets my entire feed, minus the retweetingJan 17 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Weather Indicator Lives On, Gets A New PPA http://is.gd/J1ORrL #gnome #fsJan 17 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah nice, thanks!Jan 17 12:48
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I do RT sometimesJan 17 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros !Xfce Panel 4.8.0 has been just released: http://goo.gl/4I0OZ #Xfce 4.8 is almost here! \o/ !xubuntuJan 17 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[shantanutushar/@shantanutushar] RT cableleaks !Wikileaks to receive details of 2000 Swiss bank accts today, politicians, bus. ldrs, artists, organized crime. Bankgate?Jan 17 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Libya's Gaddaffi pained by Tunisian revolt, blames WikiLeaks http://is.gd/jK4V9GJan 17 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xfce Desktop Environment (xfce)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-11 16:07:45 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.74 KBJan 17 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There are no bandwidth hogs http://is.gd/70TR5K #netneutrality #fud #canadaJan 17 12:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm *LOL* you caught the identica bug too, didn't you?Jan 17 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sandersch ♻ @kevie The right to arm bears http://2tu.us/2w86 inspired by @schestowitzJan 17 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bashing Identi.ca http://is.gd/pbjZpw those who oppose what I write usually turn out to also oppose s/w freedom... and promote Big Tobacco?Jan 17 13:02
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I have read that one already ^Jan 17 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] By starving !wl of funding, #Paypalin #visa and #mastercard also help prolong the torture of one heroic man http://is.gd/0zDmAb #freebradJan 17 13:08
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sebsebsebschestowitz: ok did you type anything to me after telling me to read the comments?Jan 17 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hazzy "Swiss [Hero] #RudolfElmer Plans to Hand Over Offshore Banking Secrets of the Rich and Famous to WikiLeaks" http://is.gd/h2qBqCJan 17 13:10
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sebsebsebanyway some issue with opening up  open apps in Gnome 2 or whatever, plus I was getting a bit bored anyway of using that in this distro, and KDE for that matterJan 17 13:10
sebsebsebso  I decided to log into E17 againJan 17 13:10
sebsebseband now going to run that for my first time, for quite a while on hereJan 17 13:11
sebsebsebseen it before, but never used properly for quite a whileJan 17 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Talking about HTML5 games development at MIT in Boston http://mzl.la/hoGfTSJan 17 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Universal and #SCOny Music plan 'instant pop' (cannons?) to stop attacks on cargo ships, according to The Guardian - good luck with thatJan 17 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 see this hilarious portrayal of him @ http://is.gd/cxGfhvJan 17 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Unity! Shell!Jan 17 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hazzy "Angry Progressive Coalition Targets Billionaire Gathering Hosted by Koch Brothers,Major Tea Party Funders" http://is.gd/hMa9im #prJan 17 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Increasing the coffee intake...Jan 17 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks classic with narrative and faces [IMG] http://is.gd/vzgltwJan 17 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365Proj 61: To the sky http://ur1.ca/2vecbJan 17 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365Proj 62: Perseverence http://ur1.ca/2vediJan 17 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ ] "pirating songs from the radio" - http://bit.ly/er0WqX pirating??? - #guardian, *do* stop parroting industry scriptsJan 17 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365Proj 63: Cleanup http://ur1.ca/2veebJan 17 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody "pirating songs from the radio" - http://bit.ly/er0WqX pirating??? - #guardian, *do* stop parroting industry scriptsJan 17 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365Proj 64: Uncleanup http://ur1.ca/2veeoJan 17 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365Proj 65: Howling at the Moon http://ur1.ca/2vefcJan 17 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re: "Chinese tycoons trawl UK antiques market for treasures" > but they don't wanna buy "IP" 'treasures' ;-)Jan 17 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner thenextweb: Wordpress 3.0 Surpasses 30 Million Downloads http://ping.fm/mniTaJan 17 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The grpahical version - now pinned at wall of cubicle. http://ur1.ca/2venb #wikileaks #assangeJan 17 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz That was fantastic. Particularly liked Shillary's monologues.Jan 17 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "Our students still need teachers to show them how to leverage their social networks for learning" claims @plugusin | http://bit.ly/hMBpq5Jan 17 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] all caught up on my 365 Project now. :)Jan 17 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] News Corporation braces itself for fresh phone-hacking lawsuits http://is.gd/pCx2Vy !wikileaks has a pile on #Murdoch coming, too. #fakenewsJan 17 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fearing high gas prices, #SeanHannity proposes re-invading Iraq and Kuwait 2 “take all their oil” http://is.gd/lezGSN #murdoch #switchoffFoxJan 17 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: The grpahical version - now pinned at wall of cubicle. http://ur1.ca/2venb #wikileaks #assangeJan 17 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] While #Palin gently endorses "taking out" politicians, Sean Hannity advocates/hints at "taking out" nations. #fox #teaparty #notEvenFunnyJan 17 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lnxwalt140 Has everyone seen this? http://is.gd/c0bVWq #facebook is setting itself up as the enemy of individuals' #privacy.Jan 17 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @vwadhwa Seems my patents piece shook many people up. Woke up to some extremely nasty personal attacks. means I hit the nail on the head.Jan 17 13:35
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sebsebsebschestowitz: seems quite a lot of Ubuntu people prefer Twitter to identi.ca really, but also Mageia people which is ashameJan 17 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hazzy "Bill Daley and associates are already Plotting the course for a Second Bailout" http://is.gd/pWFKBwJan 17 13:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wikimedia India Chapter takes shape http://is.gd/aYW40E "will support and promote Wikimedia" http://is.gd/B126WbJan 17 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody RT @ericgoldman Book publishers bring secondary #copyright suit for servicing rogue website http://j.mp/gv89ww first of many?Jan 17 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #LibreOffice User Interface Mockups (With Sidebar) http://goo.gl/FWh6UJan 17 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @psquid: RT @sixgun There will be no Linux Outlaws live show today as we are still working on an episode. !linuxoutlawsJan 17 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ohh, I almost forgot to dent it: #Xfce 4.8 has been officially released \o/ http://goo.gl/mGgvL !xubuntuJan 17 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ffii Happy Birthday #Wikipedia !Jan 17 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ffii why not post everything via #identica - there's an option for exporting from it to #twitterJan 17 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unigine Engine Ported To Android Phones, Tablets http://is.gd/cdfnJK good for high-quality !linux gamesJan 17 13:48
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62399253Jan 17 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 12:27:46 UTC - Identi.ca: #TwimGo 2.5 Preview (Qt QML) http://is.gd/sHMUwm #meego !linuxJan 17 13:50
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62392045Jan 17 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-11 10:03:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Cyberstep KDJ-One Mobile Audio Workstation prototype – MeeGo http://is.gd/lr8zfP !linux and #lsb offer amazing versatility,more than AndroidJan 17 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Xubuntu: #Xfce 4.8 adds remote shares browsing, new desktop panel, more http://goo.gl/TDdRoJan 17 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ender2070 for tar sandsJan 17 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open #collaboration: A look at nine (very) different communities | http://bit.ly/fencoO #opensource collaboration #sharingJan 17 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LCA 2011 will be happening http://lwn.net/Articles/423364/rssJan 17 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EC Tests Show Windows Vista Is Above Average — At Blocking Content - http://bit.ly/g5axWJ #MS #Vista finds its niche at last: #censorshipJan 17 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @opensourceway Open #collaboration: A look at nine (very) different communities | http://bit.ly/fencoO #opensource collaboration #sharingJan 17 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia's 'Comes With Music' Disappears In 27 Markets - http://bit.ly/fH9puP once more, #DRM bites those stupid enough to accept itJan 17 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @oniiranen: Steve Jobs to take a medical leave of absence from #Apple for an indeterminate period, http://t.co/2EjagAq | Ouch.Jan 17 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks receives details of mass offshore tax evasion, could be released within weeks - http://bit.ly/e5CFym which big names are sweating?Jan 17 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] On way to Colombo to speak at sanog.org and meet with the Sri Lankan Fedora and FOSS community. #fbJan 17 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lane Fox promises sub-£100 PCs - http://bit.ly/eDMOj5 telephone support, monitor, mouse and Linux software": kudos to all concerned #ukJan 17 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenGamma Secures $6 million Series B To Power #OpenSource For Wall Street - http://bit.ly/eZivCT good to see verticals like thisJan 17 14:27
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Any reply from Jono yet,  Jorge Castro is in those comments you told me to readJan 17 14:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: Jorge Castro is on Jono Bacon's team at CanonicalJan 17 14:31
sebsebsebso yeah any reply from Jono yet?Jan 17 14:32
schestowitznoJan 17 14:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/01/17/copyright-assignment-correlation/Jan 17 14:32
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I think its a retaliation since you attacked omgubuntu and Mono and so on, but still,  surely Ubuntu Community Members aren't meant to write blog posts like the one that guy did, that then even get shown on Planet Ubuntu.Jan 17 14:34
schestowitzI didn't attack omgubuntuJan 17 14:34
schestowitzAnd see my tweets to themJan 17 14:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok maybe not attacked, but wrote badly about them on the blog yesJan 17 14:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/d0od/status/26959835891236864Jan 17 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr@d0od: @schestowitz We're jesting; we have no pro-mono editorial policy on @omgubuntu so it's humorous to be thought of as having one.Jan 17 14:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/d0od/status/26961024275980288Jan 17 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr@d0od: @schestowitz In fact it may be worth us running an article on the history of Mono and why people are divided on it.Jan 17 14:35
schestowitzI replies to them tooJan 17 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Identi.ca Helps Determine Who Cares About Software Freedom http://is.gd/IOK0Aj !fs #novell #ubuntu #fedora #identica #freedom #monoJan 17 14:35
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/d0od/status/26961024275980288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/26966055003885568Jan 17 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr@d0od: @schestowitz In fact it may be worth us running an article on the history of Mono and why people are divided on it.Jan 17 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @d0od I know :-) keep up the good workJan 17 14:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok I guess those are newer, I saw something last night,  that you linked to here, where that guy basically laughed  about the blog post or whateverJan 17 14:35
schestowitzPolitelyJan 17 14:36
schestowitzSomething about being paid by Novell/Microsoft... purely a jokeJan 17 14:36
sebsebsebyes thatJan 17 14:36
sebsebseband obviously a jokeJan 17 14:36
schestowitzomgubuntu is OK for some usersJan 17 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Boss Jobs on Medical Leave of Absence http://lxnews.org/2011/01/17/jobs-on-medical-leave-of-absence/Jan 17 14:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: when I talked to dood before on IRC, he mentioned how may do some distro comparision blog enteries evenJan 17 14:38
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sebsebsebschestowitz: ok this was last year some time, but yeahJan 17 14:38
sebsebsebfor example a Ubuntu  compared to Mandriva one maybe, of course now,  better to compare Mandriva to uhmmm  well Mageia when its more ready I guess, in that kind of blog postJan 17 14:39
sebsebsebaltough yeah in the mean time, could compare to Mandriva, and also mention Mageia for example :)Jan 17 14:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: also I think a blog comparing it against PC Linux OS, would be something :)Jan 17 14:40
sebsebsebcomparing against Fedora quite a few do that already, and tends to be boring or whatever, if you get what I meanJan 17 14:40
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sebsebsebschestowitz: ,but anyway yeah techrights got trolled by an Ubuntu Community Member of all people hmmJan 17 14:41
schestowitzBaitedJan 17 14:43
sebsebsebBaited?Jan 17 14:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah troll baite like I guess your saying, and if so ohiam took the bait, because he did quite a few reply commentsJan 17 14:46
schestowitznot reallyJan 17 14:48
schestowitzthe bait needed strong repliesJan 17 14:48
abeNd-org1isnt ubuntu supposed to mean friendship or something like that? :)Jan 17 14:48
schestowitzI think MinceR gave the most, he's the one quoted thereJan 17 14:48
schestowitzabeNd-org1: unityJan 17 14:49
schestowitz:-)Jan 17 14:49
sebsebsebabeNd-org1: Ubuntu Linux For Human Beings is or was the sloganJan 17 14:49
sebsebsebUbuntu an ancient african word that means Humanity, as they would say as wellJan 17 14:49
gnufreexLinux for SheepleJan 17 14:50
gnufreexSame as OSX is UNIX for SheepleJan 17 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Streaming/Downloading Episodes Via !TechBytes Subdomain, New Site to Launch Soonhttp://is.gd/IOt05HJan 17 14:50
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sebsebseband for Edubuntu it is or was,  Ubuntu For Young Human Beings,  I like thatJan 17 14:50
sebsebsebgnufreex: Ubuntu was a great distro, but now with more recent releases basicalley what your saying yeahJan 17 14:50
gnufreexIt was great until it was DebianJan 17 14:51
gnufreexNow, it is some kind of mutant.Jan 17 14:51
sebsebseb9.04 is where they started making it more for the "average consumer" and where as a result the  distro started going down hill,  with that Gnome patching and so on yeahJan 17 14:51
sebsebsebwell notify-osd is ok, but other stuff uhJan 17 14:51
sebsebsebgnufreex: you mean it was great, when it was very much like Debian still?Jan 17 14:52
gnufreexYeahJan 17 14:52
MinceRUbuntu is an ancient African word meaning "I can't configure Debian"Jan 17 14:52
sebsebseboh I guess I did the slogans slightly wrong I think so acstaully,  Ubuntu Linux For Human Beings or maybe no Linux in that oneJan 17 14:53
MinceRand OSX is not Unix for anyone, it's a toy OSJan 17 14:53
sebsebsebI think the Edubuntu one does thogh.   Edubuntu Linux for Human beings,  or no Linux in either, doesn't matter much anyway :DJan 17 14:53
sebsebsebMinceR: thats an old jokeJan 17 14:53
MinceRi knowJan 17 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Droid X: Unboxing and First Boot http://is.gd/t6BeWm one of the few #Android phones not paying Microsoft. #ballnux !playogg #swpatsJan 17 14:53
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*sebsebseb still doesn't like the Ubuntu purple/abugine and so onJan 17 14:54
*sebsebseb would so much rather have the old brown theme, the version before 9.10 :)Jan 17 14:54
sebsebsebcan install that in Ubuntu, butJan 17 14:54
sebsebsebeven with that theme, things aren't quite the same as beforeJan 17 14:54
gnufreexMinceR: Ubuntu is acient African word that means: "We are what we are, all thanks to Shuttleworth's money"Jan 17 14:54
MinceRlolJan 17 14:54
sebsebseb10.04 is horrible really!Jan 17 14:55
MinceRi prefer purple/aubergine to brownJan 17 14:55
sebsebsebmost users have no idea thoughJan 17 14:55
MinceRbut the new theme is even more macos-ish than the brown one wasJan 17 14:55
sebsebseball that Gnome patching in 10.04, but also those themes :(Jan 17 14:55
sebsebsebwith 9.04 and 9.10 it was just little stuff, that could be removed easilly, and not much of it, to have it like beforeJan 17 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz Identi.ca Helps Determine Who Cares About Software Freedom http://is.gd/IOK0Aj !fs #novell #ubuntu #fedora #identica #freedomJan 17 14:55
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sebsebsebwith 10.04 got to remove well most of its features really, to have Ubuntu  more like it was beforeJan 17 14:56
sebsebsebsame for 10.10Jan 17 14:56
sebsebsebMinceR: I guess at the moment Unity and Gnome Shell for many of us, would just be toys reallyJan 17 14:57
sebsebsebhmmJan 17 14:57
gnufreexGnome Shell is nice.Jan 17 14:57
gnufreexUnity is crap.Jan 17 14:57
sebsebsebGnome Shell yeah :), but it still lacks features from what I seen, of webpages showing later versions,  like the weather feature for exampleJan 17 14:57
sebsebseband I don't think they will add that before Gnome 3 finalJan 17 14:58
sebsebsebgnufreex: yeah I like Gnome Shell, but I also like that weather feature for exampleJan 17 14:58
gnufreexThey can add it to 3.01Jan 17 14:58
gnufreex3.02 in factJan 17 14:58
sebsebsebalso there are some other things that seem missing, not exactly sure what though,  when trying Gnome ShellJan 17 14:58
sebsebsebor at least the versions I was trying, got this feeling something was missingJan 17 14:58
sebsebsebgnufreex: and yeah Unity is :( reallyJan 17 14:59
sebsebseblooks ugly as well reallyJan 17 14:59
sebsebsebits sort of interseting at  times, but not something I would want to use,  like pretty much every day, from what I seenJan 17 14:59
sebsebseband I ran a older version of Gnome Shell nearly every day, for quite a while,  with Mandriva 2010.1 happily so :DJan 17 15:00
sebsebsebgnufreex: MinceR  if we are lucky,  enough people don't like Unity, and idealy expereinced users, and then yep off to other distros as a result :)Jan 17 15:00
sebsebsebas for newbies, well most just use what they are told to use basicalleyJan 17 15:01
sebsebsebgnufreex: MinceR I have a feeling that Unity is going to make quite a lot of people leave Ubuntu, who have used it for quite a whileJan 17 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] LibreOffice User Interface Mockups (With Sidebar) http://bit.ly/i0DqjWJan 17 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Displex: Fusion-Icon Alternative With Ubuntu AppIndicator Support http://bit.ly/hSXG6SJan 17 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Geany And Geany Plugins 0.20 In Ubuntu [PPA] http://bit.ly/goOU8BJan 17 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Remember, no !lo tonight. I'm on my way to Cupertino to look after Apple while Steve gets his liver fixed again. Bloody veggies. *sigh*Jan 17 15:02
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MinceRsebsebseb: :)Jan 17 15:02
sebsebsebor well if not properly leave Ubuntu, be like me, try it out sometimes,  like in develoment, virtual machine,  maybe pshyicall installJan 17 15:02
sebsebsebor yeah they may have it still on some other computer, that they hardly ever use for exampleJan 17 15:03
sebsebsebanyway not that long now untill April and May :DJan 17 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 17/1/2011: MeeGo/Maemo Apps, Unigine Engine Comes to Android http://is.gd/cgl82U !techrightsJan 17 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: Montek joins anti-CAG chorus on 2G losses http://is.gd/VF2AiE #telecom #IndiaJan 17 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Links 17/1/2011: MeeGo/Maemo Apps, Unigine Engine Comes to Android http://is.gd/cgl82U !techrightsJan 17 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@schestowitz: Motorola Droid X: Unboxing and 1st Boot http://is.gd/t6BeWm 1 of the few #Android not paying M$ #ballnux !playogg #swpatsJan 17 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Lane Fox promises sub-£100 PCs - http://bit.ly/eDMOj5 telephone support, monitor, mouse and Linux software"... #ukJan 17 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ricky Gervais rocks for tearing apart the pompous twats at the Golden Globe awards. Awesome stuff, funnier than ever.Jan 17 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 17 Jan 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900Jan 17 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @doctorow: As promised: THE STUPIDEST #LEGALTHREAT IN #BOINGBOING HISTORY! http://tinyurl.com/5rono7z #streisandeffect Pls RT!Jan 17 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Facebook cambia otra vez sus políticas y los datos personales quedan más expuestos ur1.ca/2vjng !eol !jabberesJan 17 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Xfce 4.8 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/01/17/xfce-4-8-released/Jan 17 15:47
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AntztARIGHTO THENJan 17 15:50
AntztAI was HOPING someone knows something about mounting caviar green drives taken out of wd mybook studio'sJan 17 15:51
AntztAif notJan 17 15:51
AntztATHEN I HAVE COME TO THE WRONG PLACEJan 17 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Apple CEO Steve Jobs taking medical leave to focus on health, but will remain CEO http://yhoo.it/hVUT4FJan 17 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Academic Disadvantage And Lazar, Akiva & Yagoubzadeh – Or How Stupid Do You Have To Be To Pass Law School? - http://bit.ly/iaqPPeJan 17 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: A personal aside: today I'm 10 days away from the Big 5-0. Time to count my blessings!Jan 17 16:08
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jonoschestowitz just so you are clear, I don't represent the Ubuntu communityJan 17 16:17
jonoand I am not responsible for their conductJan 17 16:17
MinceRyou do represent canonical though, do you not?Jan 17 16:18
jonoif people have been inappropriate, you should raise it with them, and if you want to complain in an official sense if they are members, you should raise it with the Community CouncilJan 17 16:18
jonoMinceR, noJan 17 16:18
jonoI don't *represent* Canonical, other than by associationJan 17 16:18
jonoI do represent my teamJan 17 16:18
jonoand I do often speak on Canonical's decisionsJan 17 16:18
MinceRwhat team is that?Jan 17 16:18
jonobut I don't *represent* CanonicalJan 17 16:18
jonoMinceR, the Ubuntu Platform Community TeamJan 17 16:18
MinceRicJan 17 16:19
MinceRand what does that team do?Jan 17 16:19
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jonoMinceR, we enthuse, grow and encourage community growthJan 17 16:19
jonoMinceR, I publish a roadmap each cycle to indicate what we doJan 17 16:20
sebsebseboh jono is here, what did I miss? :DJan 17 16:20
jonolet me grab a linkJan 17 16:20
jonoMinceR, http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/16/natty-community-team-plans/Jan 17 16:20
jonosebsebseb, nothing :-)Jan 17 16:20
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sebsebsebjono: well maybe something to do with how, we got trolled,  well I should say they got trolled,  I was mainly talked about postively :)  by an Ubuntu community member on his blogJan 17 16:21
jonosebsebseb, I am not familiar with what happened, I was away for the weekend, but I am just making it clear that I am not responsible for the communityJan 17 16:22
jonoschestowitz tweeted to me an incinuation that I wasJan 17 16:22
jonoand I wanted to make it clear hereJan 17 16:22
sebsebsebjono: oh didn't schestowitz give you a link?Jan 17 16:22
sebsebsebanyway if you look at http://planet.ubuntu.com its still showing there,  as well as  another blog post later on to  with it and identi.caJan 17 16:23
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sebsebsebjono: also I don't know, but maybe that person broke the Ubuntu Community Conduct by doing what they did, see for yourselfJan 17 16:23
jonosebsebseb, which link?Jan 17 16:24
jonoMinish's postJan 17 16:24
jono?Jan 17 16:24
sebsebsebyes that oneJan 17 16:24
sebsebsebthe one about techrightsJan 17 16:24
jonosebsebseb, that was a personal blog expressing concerns about TechrightsJan 17 16:24
jonothat doesn't violate the CoCJan 17 16:24
MinceRlolJan 17 16:24
MinceRthen the CoC is useless garbageJan 17 16:24
sebsebsebjono: it seems that planet ubuntu picks up on the personal blogs of community membersJan 17 16:25
sebsebsebhowever it also seems that planet ubuntu itself is an offical site, its on ubuntu.com after allJan 17 16:25
jonoMinceR, that blog post is not misconduct - it is just an opinion you disagree withJan 17 16:25
MinceRjono: no, it is not just an opinion i disagree withJan 17 16:25
MinceRit is trollingJan 17 16:25
sebsebsebjono: he took stuff from the log,  the chat people had with him, and made his blog post yeahJan 17 16:25
MinceRit is an attack on the free software community and on the users of identicaJan 17 16:25
MinceRwith the endorsement of canonicalJan 17 16:26
jonoMinceR, I personally diagree, but you want to contest it, raise it with the Community CouncilJan 17 16:26
jonoand they will look into itJan 17 16:26
MinceRby a person who uses an ubuntu cloakJan 17 16:26
MinceRon freenodeJan 17 16:26
MinceRand is syndicated by planet ubuntuJan 17 16:26
jonoMinceR, how has Canonicla endorsed it?Jan 17 16:26
jonoCanonical has not endorses an attack on Free Software at allJan 17 16:26
sebsebsebjono: as far as I know that guy doesn't work for Canonical and all that yes, but  surely when he is around on Freenode using an Ubuntu cloak, he is representing the Ubuntu CommunityJan 17 16:27
sebsebseb?Jan 17 16:27
jonosebsebseb, agreed he is, and this is why if you have concerns about him, you should raise it with the Community Council, but personally I don't think it is misconduct - I think it is him just expressing concerns and frustrations on his blogJan 17 16:27
jonothe CoC doesn't tell members they can't blog about things that annoy them :-)Jan 17 16:28
schestowitzHi, jonoJan 17 16:28
*schestowitz catched up in IRCJan 17 16:28
schestowitz[16:17] <jono> schestowitz just so you are clear, I don't represent the Ubuntu communityJan 17 16:29
schestowitzIs there a person more suitable to approach re this?Jan 17 16:29
jonoschestowitz if you have a concern about the conduct of an Ubuntu member, you should raise it with the Ubuntu Community CouncilJan 17 16:29
schestowitzFor Fedora I contact PaulJan 17 16:29
jonoschestowitz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilJan 17 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[elbek/@elbek] ♺ @rbonifaz: Un banquero suizo formaliza la entrega a Wikileaks de miles de datos de cuentas secretas http://bonifaz.ec/1h !wikileaksJan 17 16:30
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jonoschestowitz you know I am here as a person to discuss elements about the community, but for direct concerns regarding someone's Ubuntu membership and conduct, the CC are the most logical people to discuss it withJan 17 16:30
schestowitz[16:26] <jono> MinceR, how has Canonicla endorsed it?Jan 17 16:31
schestowitzYet, that troll implied anything said in IRC is techrights-endorsedJan 17 16:31
schestowitzDouble standards there, methinks :-)Jan 17 16:31
MinceRdouble standards regarding politeness tooJan 17 16:31
jonoschestowitz I haven't seen the discussion, I was away at the weekendJan 17 16:31
schestowitzThere are people who misbehave out there too and pretend to have something to do with us, but they don't.Jan 17 16:32
jonoI am not denying that there may be double-standards - that often happens in online discussionsJan 17 16:32
schestowitzI don't give them cloaksJan 17 16:32
schestowitzAnd I don't syndicate their blogs, eithwerJan 17 16:32
schestowitz[16:31] <MinceR> double standards regarding politeness tooJan 17 16:32
schestowitzYeahJan 17 16:32
*MinceR has an unaffiliated cloak and no blog :>Jan 17 16:32
schestowitzOpen Respect...Jan 17 16:32
schestowitzJust don't mind thatJan 17 16:32
jonowell we syndicate blogs and give cloaks to proven contributors in the Ubuntu community, that is why, not because of anything to do with trollingJan 17 16:32
schestowitzAnd thisJan 17 16:32
schestowitzAnd thatJan 17 16:32
sebsebsebjono: even if the actsual blog enteries are on personal blogs and so on,  I would have thought that many people think that anything showing on Planet Ubuntu is offical community stuff,  and if that's the case,  then I guess a few or more people saw that blog entry,  and thought a troll post got published,  and I am just sayingJan 17 16:32
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schestowitzUbuntu is not the only victim of blog-trollsJan 17 16:33
jonosebsebseb, Planet Ubuntu is just a collection of Ubuntu blogs from membersJan 17 16:33
jonothere is no editorial controlJan 17 16:33
schestowitzAnd this person infiltrated us for his smear postJan 17 16:33
jonoanyway, I just wanted to be clear schestowitz that I am not responsible for the actions of Ubuntu membersJan 17 16:33
schestowitz[16:33] <jono> sebsebseb, Planet Ubuntu is just a collection of Ubuntu blogs from membersJan 17 16:33
jonoI just wanted to advise where you can express concerns in a more suitable wayJan 17 16:33
schestowitzSomeone maanages the listJan 17 16:33
schestowitzSo reconsider who's in itJan 17 16:34
schestowitzMarkS wanted to be in Planet GNOMEJan 17 16:34
sebsebsebjono: it also seems to be me that COC only applys to offical Ubuntu stuff, such as Launchpad, IRC, and the forums,  surely at least to some extent it should even apply to personal blogs, or even identica and twitter, where members are representing Ubuntu?Jan 17 16:34
jonoschestowitz no they don't - it is a bzr branch which members have access toJan 17 16:34
schestowitzBecause he helped fund itJan 17 16:34
schestowitzWhile...Jan 17 16:34
schestowitzAlso making UnityJan 17 16:34
schestowitzWith QtJan 17 16:34
jonoschestowitz we are not going to remove people's blogs just because you don't like itJan 17 16:34
schestowitzNot so gnomy, is it?Jan 17 16:34
schestowitzMore like fragmentationk IMHOJan 17 16:34
jonoas I have said multiple times now, if you have a concern, raise it with the CCJan 17 16:34
schestowitz[16:33] <jono> I just wanted to advise where you can express concerns in a more suitable wayJan 17 16:34
schestowitzSo to repeat what I asked earlier: who should I contact?Jan 17 16:35
jonoschestowitz and to repeat what I said, the Community Council :-)Jan 17 16:35
schestowitzWhen people /claim/ to speak for us, then people come here shouting at *me*Jan 17 16:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: the Ubuntu Community CouncilJan 17 16:35
jonothat is our governance body for Ubuntu membersJan 17 16:35
jonoschestowitz go and add an item to the agendaJan 17 16:35
sebsebsebjono: I think schestowitz is after a specfic name of someone to contactJan 17 16:35
jonoand it will be discussed at the next meetingJan 17 16:35
schestowitzWho in Canonical can be held liable for people whom Canonical staff gives cloaks to and has syndicated while they misbehaveJan 17 16:35
jonosebsebseb, there is no specific person, there is the CCJan 17 16:35
gnufreex<jono> schestowitz just so you are clear, I don't represent the Ubuntu communityJan 17 16:35
gnufreex<jono> and I am not responsible for their conductJan 17 16:35
gnufreexOh, but random trolls like "Mark Fink" and "Atuzian" have nothing to do with Techrights, but you pined them to Schestowitz anyways.Jan 17 16:35
schestowitz[16:35] <jono> schestowitz and to repeat what I said, the Community Council :-)Jan 17 16:36
schestowitzWhat's Miss Council's email addy?Jan 17 16:36
schestowitzCouncil of Foreign Relationships :-dJan 17 16:36
jonognufreex, I "pined" on them, what do you mean?Jan 17 16:36
schestowitzRelations... with 3 naked-naked peopleJan 17 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux and hybrid graphics cards • by jfsaucier http://ping.fm/iM7RRJan 17 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ♻ @djotaku: coding with qt creator is such a pleasure. What a well designed IDE #kdeJan 17 16:37
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sebsebsebgnufreex: uhmm yeah and omgubuntu isn't really offical  from Canonical or the Ubuntu Community, however for many people it will be seen as a big part of the Ubuntu CommunityJan 17 16:37
jonoschestowitz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgendaJan 17 16:37
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schestowitzhalf-nakedJan 17 16:37
gnufreexYou implied that schestowitz sent Mark Fink on Ubuntu mailing list jono. You did that on FLOSS WeeklyJan 17 16:37
schestowitz[16:35] <gnufreex> Oh, but random trolls like "Mark Fink" and "Atuzian" have nothing to do with Techrights, but you pined them to Schestowitz anyways.Jan 17 16:37
schestowitzEWxactlyJan 17 16:37
schestowitzYou did more than themJan 17 16:37
jonognufreex, I don't remember implying thatJan 17 16:37
gnufreexshould I find a video jono?Jan 17 16:37
schestowitzYou attributed guilt to me cause some person nymshited in /.Jan 17 16:37
gnufreexIt is on youtubeJan 17 16:37
schestowitzLet's drop the Open Respect nonesenseJan 17 16:38
sebsebsebgnufreex: oh?Jan 17 16:38
schestowitzO*nonsenseJan 17 16:38
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jonoschestowitz Ubuntu members are not forced to use OpenRespectJan 17 16:38
MinceROnewayRespectJan 17 16:38
schestowitzI get more respect from Fedora than I get from UbuntuJan 17 16:38
schestowitzWhere the forums happily accept Linus folksJan 17 16:38
schestowitzWhose mission statement is to harm LinuxJan 17 16:39
schestowitzWhile...Jan 17 16:39
jonolisten, folks, if Ubuntu members have acted outside of the expectations of the CoC, you have every right to raise it with the COmmunity CouncilJan 17 16:39
jonoI recommend you add an agenda item and discuss itJan 17 16:39
schestowitzUbuntu Forums kicks/edges out polite mono criticsJan 17 16:39
schestowitzjono: do you know how bad it looksJan 17 16:39
schestowitzAnd that you guys do nothing to address it?Jan 17 16:39
jonoschestowitz how bad what looks?Jan 17 16:39
gnufreexjono: Ubuntu Members are like "I am insulting you all, but I am polite, so STFU".Jan 17 16:39
jonoschestowitz what do you want me to do?Jan 17 16:39
schestowitzRemember you accomodate people who spread libel about meJan 17 16:39
schestowitzAnd you even quoted them on TV IIRCJan 17 16:40
schestowitzTwit TVJan 17 16:40
schestowitzAs though they were Linux usersJan 17 16:40
MinceRthat Twit TV episode was a pretty clear attack on RoyJan 17 16:40
schestowitzjono: so I should contactJan 17 16:41
schestowitzPaulSladenJan 17 16:41
schestowitzJan 17 16:41
schestowitz?Jan 17 16:41
schestowitzThat's what the wiki has as a nameJan 17 16:41
jonoschestowitz add an item to the agenda on that wiki pageJan 17 16:41
schestowitzMinceR: weird to put it that wayJan 17 16:41
jonoschestowitz and then show up at the next meeting to discuss itJan 17 16:41
schestowitzIt didn't crititcise my action as much as others'Jan 17 16:41
schestowitzI didn't have maps with crosshairs in them, eitherJan 17 16:41
schestowitzMinceR: same as ManishJan 17 16:42
schestowitzName other peopleJan 17 16:42
jonoif you want to mail the CC, mail them at community-council AT lists DOT ubuntu DOT comJan 17 16:42
schestowitzAttribute to siteJan 17 16:42
MinceRschestowitz: practically all the questions they asked you were phrased in a hostile wayJan 17 16:42
schestowitz>to meJan 17 16:42
MinceRalso, you can see how bureaucratic canonical isJan 17 16:42
jonoschestowitz I am not on the Community Council, so if you want me to read it, CC meJan 17 16:42
schestowitzjono: not acceptable, I thinklJan 17 16:42
schestowitzI need to speak to a live personJan 17 16:42
jonoschestowitz well, that is the governanceJan 17 16:42
jonothey are live peopleJan 17 16:42
jonofive live peopleJan 17 16:42
schestowitzThis feels like Wal-Mart PRJan 17 16:42
jonoincluding Mark ShuttleworthJan 17 16:42
schestowitz"put a letter in the box, thanks for shopping again"Jan 17 16:42
MinceR:>Jan 17 16:43
jonoschestowitz I am sorry our governance structure doesn't work for youJan 17 16:43
schestowitzHere people can come to IRC and raise their concernJan 17 16:43
schestowitz[16:42] <jono> if you want to mail the CC, mail them at community-council AT lists DOT ubuntu DOT comJan 17 16:43
gnufreexWhat councill you talk about?Jan 17 16:43
schestowitzThanks, will doJan 17 16:43
jonognufreex,  the Ubuntu Community CouncilJan 17 16:43
jonoI just want to be clear on something:Jan 17 16:44
gnufreexAre mods like KiwinNZ in that jono?Jan 17 16:44
jonoif trolling from Ubuntu members has happened, that is totally unacceptableJan 17 16:44
jonoand we do not condone trolling in our communityJan 17 16:44
jonoI am just trying to tell you the right folks to speak toJan 17 16:44
schestowitzMarkS did itJan 17 16:44
gnufreexMods on Ubuntu forums are trolling to and they admit jonoJan 17 16:44
jonoas I don't make decisions on thisJan 17 16:44
schestowitzIn the OpenSUSE mailing lisJan 17 16:44
jonognufreex, there are no forum moderators on the Community CouncilJan 17 16:44
schestowitzHe later apologisedJan 17 16:44
schestowitzit wasn't proper trollingJan 17 16:45
schestowitzMore like poaching/ambushingJan 17 16:45
jonoanyway, I better get back to workJan 17 16:45
schestowitzok, thanksJan 17 16:45
jononpJan 17 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Prepared a CTM (Trademark) application for a client: an incredibly dull job, would never do it for a living -- only for fun! ;-)Jan 17 16:47
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sebsebsebyeah UbuntuJan 17 16:49
sebsebsebthe communityJan 17 16:49
nisshhschestowitz, wow, that was one damn big argument with Jono :)Jan 17 16:49
sebsebsebI have had mainly postive, but sometimes not very nice expereinces with it,  but past is pastJan 17 16:49
nisshhyeahJan 17 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner: this is a typical case for reverse engineering / decompilation of the Windows drivers. I suggest to ask Intel first.Jan 17 16:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: ok going to email them?Jan 17 16:50
gnufreexschestowitz: Don't hold hopes in Comunity Council. They actively satanize you on UF.Jan 17 16:51
gnufreexSome of them are as rabid as Linsux.Jan 17 16:51
sebsebsebyeah the Community Council probably won't do anything, but is worth a try, if you really want to schestowitzJan 17 16:51
gnufreexAnd they are mostly in agreement with Linsux.Jan 17 16:51
MinceRit's a chance for canonical to prove their stance on thingsJan 17 16:51
nisshhgnufreex, ive had bad experiences with the LoCo council they try to be really political and neutral when you raise issues, it really frustrated me :)Jan 17 16:51
MinceRif they're linsux troll, they'll put canonical in the bad light it deserves.Jan 17 16:52
MinceRs/ll/lls/Jan 17 16:52
nisshhi felt like ripping someones throat out when i was dealing with them :|Jan 17 16:52
sebsebsebif they let the wrong kind of people become community members, then yes,  Ubuntu will look bad at timesJan 17 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @cdaffara: NYT writeup on StuxNet http://nyti.ms/eOtsAv finally writes clearly that the virus infects Windows machines only. First timeJan 17 16:53
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nisshhsebsebseb, well, tbh, manish was within his rights when he blogged about his frustrations, but it was mean of him to troll in here to generate the needed IRC quotesJan 17 16:54
gnufreexI saw one person being on CC agenda, he complained about Admin (KiwNZ) being antiFLOSS (which is a fact, dude is cluelss and he should be admin on Mac forums and not Ubuntu). He got banned instantly.Jan 17 16:54
sebsebsebalso surely,  with an IRC cloak for a project whilst wearing it,   even in more fun channels, to an extent at least, even in those channels, still representing that community the one that is cloaked forJan 17 16:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/metacode/status/27037971056173056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/27045506484011009Jan 17 16:54
TechrightsBot-tr@metacode: Just started following @schestowitz and @nsisodiya on #identica to keep my options openJan 17 16:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @metacode thanks so much!Jan 17 16:54
schestowitz[16:49] <sebsebseb> yeah UbuntuJan 17 16:54
MinceRnisshh: his blog post is just more trollingJan 17 16:54
schestowitzCanonicalJan 17 16:54
sebsebsebpeople look at cloaks, well I do, and probably quite a lot more of us as wellJan 17 16:54
nisshhMinceR, hehJan 17 16:54
sebsebseband think okJan 17 16:54
schestowitzFostering free labour for their landscape and binariesJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebthis person is from that communityJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebthey represent that communityJan 17 16:55
MinceRnisshh: it's the same thing, same quality of arguments, except he quotes people out of context to make them look badJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebso for example i'll look at nisshh and think he represents, because he contributes to it some howJan 17 16:55
schestowitz[16:51] <sebsebseb> yeah the Community Council probably won't do anything, but is worth a try, if you really want to schestowitzJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebrepresents Ubuntu aboveJan 17 16:55
schestowitzI don't know people thereJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: indeed, but I think its just emailJan 17 16:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: say what happended give links, and they look in to itJan 17 16:55
nisshhMinceR, yeahJan 17 16:55
schestowitzWith jono it's harder for him to just mark and read and move onJan 17 16:55
nisshhsebsebseb, yeahJan 17 16:56
sebsebsebnisshh: so if you come here or anyone else with that cloak for exampleJan 17 16:56
sebsebsebnisshh: and then start being silly like that person didJan 17 16:56
sebsebsebwell its not going to make me think the Ubuntu Community looks goodJan 17 16:56
nisshhyeahJan 17 16:57
MinceRthere's plenty of stuff making the ubuntu community bad already, afaictJan 17 16:57
MinceRubuntu forums, omgubuntuJan 17 16:57
schestowitz[16:55] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: say what happended give links, and they look in to itJan 17 16:57
schestowitzI doubt they'd do anythingJan 17 16:57
schestowitzI also don't trust "councils"Jan 17 16:57
sebsebsebnisshh: a bit like how if the Ubuntu IRC ops,  talk rubbish about people in their publically logged ops room, which has happended well many times before, and what they were saying isn't fair,  I am not going to think the Ubuntu Community is a very nice place am I?  and even more so if it was  about me for exampleJan 17 16:57
schestowitzReminds me of all the faux ones, like CFRJan 17 16:57
schestowitzThey are probably all employees of CanonicalJan 17 16:58
nisshhsebsebseb, trueJan 17 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] FUD debunked: ITA leading economist says "China surplus = avoided SW royalties paid". Classic BSA "unlicensed copy = missed sale"Jan 17 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carlopiana FUD debunked:ITA leading economist says "China surplus=avoided SW royalties paid". Classic BSA "unlicensed copy = missed sale"Jan 17 17:00
schestowitzOh, cool...Jan 17 17:00
schestowitzSomeone submitted techrights item to LinuxToday for second time in past 2 days.. http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-01-17-004-35-NW-MS-LLJan 17 17:01
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schestowitzActually seems like Carla picked it... I hope she still reads techrightsJan 17 17:01
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway I hope to get a cloak and that for a project :)  and if that happens, which it probably will,  well then I reprsent a community, and I am so  don't want to make it look bad as a result :)  so yeah I would have my own something a bit like an Ubuntu Code Of Conduct, except it would apply for all the channels I go to wearing that cloakJan 17 17:02
sebsebsebnisshh: I thik personally that the Ubuntu COC should apply to all of it really, where someone is representing the community,  personal blogs, identica and twitter, for example, as I said to jonoJan 17 17:03
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:03
sebsebsebif going to be stupid whilst wearing a cloack  as I basically already said,  in some other channel,  then yep going to make the community that is being represented look bad, simple as thatJan 17 17:03
sebsebsebor if doing blog posts like that persons, and so on, yeahJan 17 17:04
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:04
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep techrighs stuff goes on LinuxToday every now and againJan 17 17:05
gnufreexschestowitz: Is that same item twice?Jan 17 17:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: and it's because of that site, that I started reading techrights sometimes,  if I remember correctlyJan 17 17:05
sebsebseb,but I didn't end up in the IRC untill, someone else told me about itJan 17 17:05
sebsebsebthe boycottnovell channelJan 17 17:05
sebsebsebnisshh: ever listended to techbytes by the way?Jan 17 17:06
*sebsebseb is behind quite a bit with techbytes right nowJan 17 17:06
nisshhsebsebseb, noJan 17 17:06
nisshhsebsebseb, techbytes == podcast?Jan 17 17:06
sebsebsebyeah or audiocast as schestowitz would sayJan 17 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] and via @smaffulli: Will China patent trolling blow up USA trade? http://ur1.ca/2v3k1 (in ITA Sisvel's done the same for decades)Jan 17 17:07
sebsebsebsince something to do with AppleJan 17 17:07
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sebsebsebnisshh: its schestowitz and  well it was only another guy who came here, but now its two other guysJan 17 17:07
nisshhsebsebseb, ah right, im not one for listening to podcasts muchJan 17 17:07
sebsebsebyeah me eitherJan 17 17:07
sebsebseb,but techbytes is worth listening toJan 17 17:07
sebsebsebnisshh: or well at least episodes with stuff of interestJan 17 17:07
sebsebsebnisshh: I don't read most stuff on the blog, as I have said in these channels before,  but techbytes is a good way to get schestowitz opinons about stuff, and the two other guysJan 17 17:08
sebsebsebabout whatever is going in the Linux news at the time, and so onJan 17 17:08
nisshhah rightJan 17 17:08
nisshhyeah, ive heard good things about itJan 17 17:09
sebsebsebnisshh: I see your sticking around here :) how come though?Jan 17 17:10
nisshhsebsebseb, because i love you all :)Jan 17 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @pinheirokde: ♻ @fkarlitschek There are rumors that the MeeGo powered Nokia N9 will launch soon. Looking forward to it. #kde #qt #meego...Jan 17 17:10
nisshhnahJan 17 17:10
nisshhi just tend to sit in channels i am interested inJan 17 17:10
sebsebsebyeah same hereJan 17 17:10
sebsebsebnisshh: I may not be rather anti Mono and all that, like most of these guys, but techrights and the other channel #boycottnovell-social can be quite interesting at times and good for chat and of course in this one intersting dents coming in from identica :DJan 17 17:11
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Nice to hear "In the tech world, patents don’t foster innovation; they inhibit it" http://ur1.ca/2v3k1 - as we said for #swpatsJan 17 17:12
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sebsebsebwe used to get popey in here as wellJan 17 17:12
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:12
sebsebsebthen he like left, and his dents would still come in, but then that stopped as wellJan 17 17:12
sebsebsebapparantly he doesn't like techrights anymore, it seems from some stuff that was said on identica, ah wellJan 17 17:13
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:13
nisshhso does the bot only pull from #techrights?Jan 17 17:13
nisshhthe tagJan 17 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Croesus Syndrome: To hear in a cryptic message whatever our innermost self is inclined to hear (Bible Babel Blog): http://bit.ly/hZJGxAJan 17 17:13
sebsebsebTRIdentica:  gets in  dents from people who are on the listJan 17 17:13
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nisshhoh rightJan 17 17:14
sebsebsebnisshh: so right now I am not denting on identica for example, butJan 17 17:14
sebsebsebif I wasJan 17 17:14
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:14
sebsebsebbasicalley all my dents would apply here, well most of them,  except for replies to peopleJan 17 17:14
sebsebsebsince I am on the listJan 17 17:14
nisshhah rightJan 17 17:14
sebsebseb,but if I repy to someone on the listJan 17 17:14
sebsebsebthen that will probably show in here as wellJan 17 17:14
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:15
nisshhbrb, need some foodJan 17 17:15
sebsebsebnisshh: so yeah if you use identica, and want your dents showing here, just ask schestowitz and yep it can happenJan 17 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa Now Supports A Bit More Of OpenGL 3.0: While some Mesa developers spent some time this weekend investigatin... http://bit.ly/ijPdfDJan 17 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @bmoqimi Linux Sex: date;unzip;strip;touch;grep;finger;mount;fsck;more;less;more;less;umount;sleepJan 17 17:15
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nisshhsebsebseb, yeah, i use identi.ca but a fair few of my dents would be offtopic :)\Jan 17 17:15
sebsebsebnisshh: doesn't matterJan 17 17:15
sebsebsebits basically for people in the channel, and those that do similar thing to schestowitzJan 17 17:16
nisshhso you wouldnt mind if dents from me popped up about completely different things?Jan 17 17:16
sebsebsebof courseJan 17 17:16
sebsebsebwe had this bruce guy and his dents for example about sports and so on, appearing in hereJan 17 17:16
sebsebsebnot sure if his dents still show here, but yeahJan 17 17:17
nisshhah rightJan 17 17:17
sebsebsebnisshh: I think more recently it would show my messages to him, but not his replies to me, or sometingJan 17 17:17
nisshhschestowitz, you can add me to the list for the identi.ca bot thenJan 17 17:17
nisshhrightJan 17 17:17
sebsebsebnisshh: I think quite a lot of the Ubuntu people think techrights/boycottnovell is trolls,  from stuff I have read on net, and been told on IRC even, when for example I gave a techrights link or two out  last year in the omgubuntu IRC channel and yepJan 17 17:18
sebsebseband then of course quite a lot of schestowitz 's blog posts, are bound to get at, atleast someoneJan 17 17:19
sebsebseb,but if people don't like something they read on the Internet, why not just ignore it? for most stuff like that, can do that quite easilly really :)Jan 17 17:20
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I would like to see an Introduction feature in #Diaspora. And Tags for aspects. Possible?Jan 17 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] When I cultivate my own yogurt and use Danone Actimel or Yacult as Starter culture - is that illegal piracy or infrin... http://ur1.ca/2vmrvJan 17 17:22
sebsebsebnisshh: by the way trolls even read the log of this channel at timesJan 17 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@:Jan 17 17:22
sebsebsebnisshh: at first I didn't quite belive it, and for a rather long time indeed, but thenJan 17 17:22
nisshhyeah, lolJan 17 17:22
sebsebsebsomeone  trolled meJan 17 17:23
sebsebsebby registing using this name on a site,  and yeahJan 17 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sherry Turkle grows wary of robot love (The Chronicle) http://bit.ly/gG20wSJan 17 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Still effectively shocked that #Diaspora doesn't offer support for #oStatus #StatusNet #identi.ca, despite the multitude of requests.Jan 17 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sorry, my dear followers for flooding the timeline. Blaming #brdcst, looking very sharp at @macno ... ;-)Jan 17 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: Still shocked that #Diaspora doesn't offer support for #oStatus #StatusNet #identi.ca, despite the multitude of requests.Jan 17 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How the shrinking soundbite sharpens the political process (Boston Globe): http://bit.ly/gurYFLJan 17 17:28
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schestowitz[17:05] <gnufreex> schestowitz: Is that same item twice?Jan 17 17:30
schestowitzNoJan 17 17:30
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: hiJan 17 17:30
_goblin_netbookbonjourJan 17 17:31
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: Techrights got trolled recently by an Ubuntu Community MemberJan 17 17:31
_goblin_netbookthats a shame...theres no need for behaviour like thatJan 17 17:32
sebsebsebschestowitz:  and MinceR aren't happyJan 17 17:32
nisshh_goblin_netbook, and before you notice my cloak, it wasnt me :)Jan 17 17:33
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: anyway schestowitz did a post about ongubuntu and mono again, and some other post,  then this person joined the social channel #boycottnovell-socialJan 17 17:33
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: and there was a chat about stuff, I said something to them as well,  and then later they do a blog post, about their expereince of being in socialJan 17 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Apparently the Bay Area Fastrak website uses a proprietary application server that Sun stopped supporting in April of 2009.Jan 17 17:33
gnufreex<nisshh> gnufreex, ive had bad experiences with the LoCo council they try to be really political and neutral when you raise issues, it really frustrated me :)Jan 17 17:33
gnufreexI don't get what you meant by this?Jan 17 17:33
schestowitz[17:17] <nisshh> schestowitz, you can add me to the list for the identi.ca bot thenJan 17 17:34
schestowitzSure...Jan 17 17:34
sebsebseband it well still shows on http://planet.ubuntu.com  they also basically insulted loads of identi.ca users as wellJan 17 17:34
_goblin_netbookah...i dont think Ive spent any time in socialJan 17 17:34
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_goblin_netbookschestowitz, hi mateJan 17 17:34
schestowitz0/Jan 17 17:34
_goblin_netbook schestowitz wanting to record tonight?Jan 17 17:34
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: and someone did a post about  identica as well, because of this, and see for yourselfJan 17 17:34
nisshhgnufreex, i was just relating an experience i had, when you talked about the community councilJan 17 17:34
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: and jono was just in here recently, and schestowitz may contact the ubuntu community councilJan 17 17:34
sebsebsebabout itJan 17 17:35
_goblin_netbookjono is often here, he's a nice chapJan 17 17:35
sebsebseboh that could be an intersting techbytes, if this gets mentioned in it :DJan 17 17:35
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: I got a bit of techbytes catching up to do really, but yeah,  well I could skip older episodes, but I want to hear themJan 17 17:36
_goblin_netbookwe had a good show on the last ep.....Jan 17 17:37
sebsebsebalso I haven't done any dents on identica for 10 days or whatever it is now hmmJan 17 17:37
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: and I kept on being begged to sort out my brothers lap top, on software side, untill I did itJan 17 17:37
sebsebseb,but that took quite a lot of timeJan 17 17:37
sebsebsebhe kept on nagging me I meanJan 17 17:37
schestowitznisshh: addedJan 17 17:38
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: ,but that was over about a week ago nowJan 17 17:38
nisshhschestowitz, thanksJan 17 17:38
sebsebseb,but I had like two weeks of that, before I spent the proper time doing that, he would like find me and yeahJan 17 17:38
sebsebsebwhat get for offering to help family with computer!Jan 17 17:38
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: and I didn't want to spend loads of time at like Christmas and new years  doing it and that, so yeah.   still issues with XP after re install,  but well he's using Linux Mint 9 on itJan 17 17:39
nisshhsebsebseb, my family are the same, a bunch of ungrateful bastards :)Jan 17 17:39
schestowitz[17:34] <_goblin_netbook>  schestowitz wanting to record tonight?Jan 17 17:39
schestowitzSureJan 17 17:39
sebsebsebthat's the distro I decided to go forJan 17 17:39
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah he doesn't even mention on Facebook that he has lap top back :(Jan 17 17:40
sebsebsebnot likeJan 17 17:40
sebsebseboh cool my lap top is backJan 17 17:40
sebsebsebthen I could have replied  and been like, yeah thanks to your brotherJan 17 17:40
nisshhsebsebseb, heheJan 17 17:40
schestowitz_goblin_netbook: what time?Jan 17 17:40
_goblin_netbookwould around 6pm be good?Jan 17 17:40
sebsebsebnisshh: I was annoyed and annoyeed,  after it came back with the new screen, because the old one broke he dropped the lap top, when aruging with our father apparnatlyJan 17 17:40
_goblin_netbookmaybe a little later since ive got to have  dinner firstJan 17 17:40
nisshhsebsebseb, im seriouslt tempted to sign up to facebook just so i can troll my sister :)Jan 17 17:41
nisshhheheJan 17 17:41
sebsebsebnisshh: and then nothing had happended with it for over a year, untilll  more recently,  and I said  I would help on software side, so yeah nagged untill I did itJan 17 17:41
_goblin_netbooksorry im confused...whos nishhJan 17 17:41
_goblin_netbook?Jan 17 17:41
nisshh_goblin_netbook, im new hereJan 17 17:41
_goblin_netbookah!Jan 17 17:41
_goblin_netbookhi!Jan 17 17:41
nisshhhelloJan 17 17:41
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah, but your here, because of that troll post aren't you?Jan 17 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mass UK P2P trial becomes an 'off the scale' legal quagmire; ACS:Law ridiculed - http://bit.ly/hIf5k9 better & better #acslawJan 17 17:42
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_goblin_netbookwheres gforbes?Jan 17 17:42
nisshh_goblin_netbook, /whois me if you want to find out more :)Jan 17 17:42
nisshhsebsebseb, that post did lead me to joining this channel, yesJan 17 17:42
_goblin_netbookyou a londoner?Jan 17 17:43
nisshhi thought i would sit in here and whatnot anywayJan 17 17:43
nisshh_goblin_netbook, me?Jan 17 17:43
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: thats the server he is onJan 17 17:43
_goblin_netbookyeahJan 17 17:43
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:43
nisshhlolJan 17 17:43
_goblin_netbooknorth south east or westJan 17 17:43
nisshhim actually Australian :)Jan 17 17:43
sebsebsebnisshh: oh you are from London or?Jan 17 17:43
nisshhsebsebseb, i like that double take there :)Jan 17 17:43
sebsebsebyeah how people end up here hmmJan 17 17:43
nisshhno, thats the server he is... wait are you nisshh? :)Jan 17 17:44
sebsebsebyou, because of that blog postJan 17 17:44
sebsebsebso well we got some postive out of it as wellJan 17 17:44
sebsebseband I ended up joining the other channel the one we used to use #boycottnovellJan 17 17:44
sebsebseb,because a guy basically said thatJan 17 17:44
sebsebsebthe boycottnovell people were trollsJan 17 17:44
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:44
sebsebsebor something, and I wanted to find out for myself and well here I am stillJan 17 17:44
sebsebsebnisshh: really this channel is great for those that know about opnesource/freesoftware/LinuxJan 17 17:45
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:46
sebsebsebor well would beJan 17 17:46
sebsebsebits just,  techrights/boycottnovell also gets a bit of a bad reputation,  because of some or I guess a bit more than just some of schestowitz blog posts, but oh well, so be itJan 17 17:46
sebsebseb,because he writes stuff, that many other people woudn'tJan 17 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OECD study: an actual #cyberwar is improbable - http://bit.ly/eJavkS some sense at lastJan 17 17:47
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:47
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sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: I was suggesting earlier that nisshh listens to techbytesJan 17 17:47
sebsebsebnisshh: I said there were two other guys doing it,  well _goblin_netbook  is the other main guy to be doing itJan 17 17:47
_goblin_netbooklol...Jan 17 17:48
_goblin_netbookim the one with the BBC accentJan 17 17:48
nisshhlolJan 17 17:48
nisshhokJan 17 17:48
_goblin_netbookwww.openbytes.tk - my site.Jan 17 17:49
sebsebsebnisshh:  also sometimes people say things that aren't really the best things to be sayign in a channel that then gets publically logged in these channels, but in general nice channels :)Jan 17 17:49
nisshhyeahJan 17 17:49
sebsebseboh you got a .tk now _goblin_netbookJan 17 17:50
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: to poor for a real domain name? :DJan 17 17:50
_goblin_netbooklolJan 17 17:50
_goblin_netbookor too cheapJan 17 17:50
_goblin_netbookdepends on which way you look at itJan 17 17:50
sebsebsebI don't think I have seen ThisleWeb here recently, oh wellJan 17 17:51
sebsebseband I guess you could record a techbytes without him really, if neassreyJan 17 17:51
_goblin_netbookwe did it before...the show works just as well with me and roy.Jan 17 17:52
_goblin_netbook10 episodes before gordon joinedJan 17 17:52
sebsebsebnoJan 17 17:52
sebsebsebhe started with the 8th epsidoeJan 17 17:53
sebsebsebwhen he was in itJan 17 17:53
sebsebseb8th episode as a guestJan 17 17:53
_goblin_netbookwas it?Jan 17 17:53
sebsebseband then so on from thereJan 17 17:53
sebsebsebyep the 8thJan 17 17:53
_goblin_netbookGordons a good lad.....brought another faceyJan 17 17:53
_goblin_netbooktJan 17 17:53
sebsebseb9th if we include the pilotJan 17 17:53
_goblin_netbook* facet to the TB showJan 17 17:53
sebsebseba what?Jan 17 17:53
sebsebsebface?Jan 17 17:54
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: Gordons a good lad? hmmJan 17 17:55
sebsebsebhe doesn't like meJan 17 17:55
_goblin_netbookIm sure thats not right....Jan 17 17:56
_goblin_netbookGordon is a nice manJan 17 17:56
sebsebseb_goblin_netbook: uh he doesn't tend to be when it comes to meJan 17 17:56
sebsebsebhe thinks I am annoyingJan 17 17:57
sebsebseb,but oh well whatever, somebody I will probaly never meet anywayJan 17 17:58
sebsebseb,but he gets annoyed at how I use high light on IRC, and so onJan 17 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The cloud is the future - #Google joins the EFF in MP3tunes' battle against #EMI - http://bit.ly/g8jzYl significant backing #copyrightJan 17 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Yet more #LibreOffice UI mock-ups roll in… http://goo.gl/DK2K3Jan 17 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: 4 Beautiful !Ubuntu !Unity UI Mockups/Ideas http://goo.gl/tsdg4Jan 17 18:10
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schestowitzJan 17 18:21
schestowitz[17:40] <_goblin_netbook> would around 6pm be good?Jan 17 18:21
schestowitzsureJan 17 18:21
schestowitz[17:59] <ThistleWeb> _goblin_netbook: schestowitz are we recording tonight?Jan 17 18:23
schestowitz[18:06] <ThistleWeb> I'm struggling to keep my eyes open right now, I doubt I'll be awake much longer, so if we're recording tonight I reckon I'll sit this ep outJan 17 18:23
schestowitz_goblin_netbook: maybe a 2-men show tonight thenJan 17 18:23
schestowitzTell me when you're back from scoff..Jan 17 18:23
schestowitz(and cig)Jan 17 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @hgfernan If you're never scared, embarrassed or hurt, it means you never take any chances. Julia Sorel http://bit.ly/fMsJgq !q !qod ...Jan 17 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] After years of coming close, my team (Codex) finally won a MIT Mystery Hunt! http://ur1.ca/2voovJan 17 18:27
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_GoblinAH,,,,thats better,,,,Jan 17 18:27
_Goblinupstairs now....Jan 17 18:28
_Goblinbigger monitorJan 17 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear twitterserers who claim Tunisia Revolution has sth to do with twitter: Uncensore internet in Tunisia NOW. Do sth good for the tunisian!Jan 17 18:28
schestowitzCoolJan 17 18:31
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schestowitzMaybe we can start in a moment when I finish a postJan 17 18:32
schestowitzGordon seems too tired by now...Jan 17 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Wishing the very best to Steve Jobs. He might be an AH, but I know what he and his family are enduringJan 17 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Diversity and Encouraging More Women To Attend at the !Ubuntu Developer Summit in #Budapest http://goo.gl/OQbHH #locoteamsJan 17 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Still effectively shocked that #Diaspora doesn't offer support for #oStatus #StatusNet #identi.ca, despite the multitude ...Jan 17 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @evan net result ATM (user perspective) is diaspora to twitter works, identi.ca not. #needfixASAP (thank god for brdcst.it, BTW)Jan 17 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Don't "second chances" need to come after some wrong doing? Or has the PM accepted what the rest of us knew for ages? http://bit.ly/gUFzqjJan 17 18:47
_GoblinWhat a conundrum Ive been bought two games to play (after I record the show)......but which one?Jan 17 18:47
_GoblinKillzone 2 or Dragon Age Origins? (Both PS3)Jan 17 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Xfce 4.8 released http://lwn.net/Articles/423409/rssJan 17 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer @andyc to their credit diaspora is still alpha. Gmail's been in beta for some 5yrs, hopefully identi.ca'll be fixd sooner :-)Jan 17 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] Attention #firefox developers: I love you (and .mozilla/firefox/<profile>/sessionstore.js too) <3<3<3Jan 17 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] WTF (What The Fog!)Jan 17 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having an authentically hot vindaloo. :DJan 17 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/423380/rssJan 17 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das wird bei Quick Freeze genauso enden, befürcthe ich, liebe @sls_fdp - http://ur1.ca/2vpreJan 17 19:05
MinceRsebsebseb: i'm mostly unhappy about that canonical seems intent on proving my worst speculations about them weeklyJan 17 19:05
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MinceRand that despite what they do, they still have a large installed baseJan 17 19:05
gnufreexIt is interesting how Canonical developed, almost as if their mission is to do as much damage posible.Jan 17 19:06
gnufreexThey first claimed they are Free Software company.Jan 17 19:06
gnufreexAs oposed to Red HatJan 17 19:06
gnufreexWhich says open sourceJan 17 19:06
gnufreexAnd that they care abotu Freedom and desktopJan 17 19:06
gnufreexBut "they make some exceptions for drivers"Jan 17 19:07
gnufreexBut they never contributed anything usefulJan 17 19:07
gnufreexJust forked debianJan 17 19:07
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah it keeps on going down hill now with Ubunutu really since 9.04Jan 17 19:08
gnufreexAnd they borked GNU Arch, hired away people in atempt to make Linus Torvalds use Bazaar.Jan 17 19:08
gnufreexThen when they failed, they sort of made Bazaar GNU projectJan 17 19:09
gnufreexbut they didnt assingn C to FSFJan 17 19:09
gnufreexAnd they still have nasty CAJan 17 19:09
gnufreexIf you want to contribute.Jan 17 19:09
MinceRsomebody still uses Bazaar? :>Jan 17 19:09
gnufreexAnd then when they went purpleJan 17 19:09
gnufreexall hell broke looseJan 17 19:09
gnufreexMinceR: yeah, MySQL and forks, and GRUB2Jan 17 19:10
sebsebsebyeah purple/augine as the Canonical colour is a joke really, and that's also like AppleJan 17 19:10
gnufreexShuttleworth wanted to score on Bazaar by pushing it to Linux devsJan 17 19:10
gnufreexLike Larry McVoy didJan 17 19:10
gnufreexWith BKJan 17 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Vote for the 2010 opensource.com People's Choice Award http://bit.ly/hEbPOHJan 17 19:12
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gnufreexSo Canonical forks debian, undercuts Mandriva, tries to undercut Red Hat, gives platfrom for AntiFreedomers and Lin*** trolls, they badmouth Red Hat, they promote Mono, defend Novell,Jan 17 19:13
gnufreexAttack TechrightsJan 17 19:13
gnufreexI just can't find any positive side of CanonicalJan 17 19:13
gnufreexThey contribute nothing.Jan 17 19:14
gnufreexClose to nothingJan 17 19:14
gnufreexAnd what they do contribute, you have to sign all rights to CanonicalJan 17 19:14
gnufreexSo they can make it proprietary.Jan 17 19:14
gnufreexwhen they sell outJan 17 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh is there lager involved?Jan 17 19:15
gnufreexAlso, they spin like crazy and make people think they invented "Linux"Jan 17 19:17
gnufreexThey pretend to be polite while attacking other peopleJan 17 19:17
gnufreexAnd when you say something then "YOU ARE NOT POLITE!!!11 SHAME ON YOU"Jan 17 19:17
gnufreex"We are polite when we tell you that you are all crazy zealots and neckbeards, so STFU"Jan 17 19:18
gnufreex"You don't get to complain when you are politely told you are crzy and we are great!11"Jan 17 19:19
gnufreexENDRANTJan 17 19:19
sebsebsebgnufreex: they basicaly give up on Gnome as wellJan 17 19:20
sebsebsebgnufreex: UnityJan 17 19:21
gnufreexYeah, they forked GNOME>Jan 17 19:21
sebsebsebeven give up on GTK when it comes to the 2D version since that's done with QTJan 17 19:21
gnufreexAnd they cry other distros are "fragmenting"Jan 17 19:21
sebsebseband they gave up on mutter, the nice thingJan 17 19:21
sebsebsebto have Unity re done with CompizJan 17 19:21
sebsebsebgnufreex: other distros are fragmenting?Jan 17 19:22
sebsebsebgnufreex: and now they are  an upstream with Unity and such, but yep the copyright assignmentsJan 17 19:22
sebsebseband as a result they aren't like a proper upstreamJan 17 19:22
gnufreexUnity is corporate project.Jan 17 19:23
sebsebseband they are about making money out of people as wellJan 17 19:23
gnufreexLike OpenSolarisJan 17 19:23
sebsebsebwith their Ubuntu productJan 17 19:23
sebsebsebnot spreading free software, but also trying to educate people here and there, what it is really aboutJan 17 19:23
sebsebsebsoftware freedomJan 17 19:23
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gnufreexIt is also crazy that they name stuff so crazyJan 17 19:23
gnufreexUnity made more dissunity than anything elseJan 17 19:23
sebsebsebgnufreex: yep as someone said on identica before basicalelyJan 17 19:24
gnufreexTheir Harmony project for corporate assingments.Jan 17 19:24
gnufreexThat is going to make some huge "disHarmony"Jan 17 19:24
gnufreexDown the road, that isJan 17 19:24
gnufreexWhen people realize how slezy canonical lawyers are.Jan 17 19:25
sebsebsebgnufreex: and they make most of their users, into consumers, not  contributors to actsaul opensource/freesoftware in any way at allJan 17 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.1.29 is released (security patches), please upgrade: http://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02129-released-security-patchesJan 17 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @liotier Abundant, safe and clean power with no proliferation risk... Why not thorium as fuel for nuclear reactors ? http://j.mp/hxaX ...Jan 17 19:25
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sebsebsebif anything a contributor to Ubuntu for many, but not proper opensource/freesoftwareJan 17 19:25
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gnufreexIf their present CA is a hint, Harmony is going to be dissaster.Jan 17 19:25
gnufreexThey practically put a trap on every clause.Jan 17 19:26
nexusswhat is CA?Jan 17 19:26
gnufreexCopyright assingment.Jan 17 19:26
nexussahJan 17 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: WikiLeaks discloses offshore banking secrets. 'Approximately 40 politicians' listed http://www.p2pnet.net/story/47937Jan 17 19:28
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sebsebsebwho is nexuss ?Jan 17 19:29
nexussfirst-timerJan 17 19:29
nexusshi allJan 17 19:29
sebsebsebnexuss: ok welcome to channel, how you find us?Jan 17 19:30
gnufreex\o/Jan 17 19:30
nexussidenti.caJan 17 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I don't know enough about thorium as reactor fuel, but what about nuke waste? Are waste cannisters going to make us all glow?Jan 17 19:30
nexussanyways, brb, got a conf callJan 17 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Sila http://ur1.ca/2vqa0 #4sqJan 17 19:32
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sebsebsebschestowitz: gnufreex MinceR oh toros has subscribed to me on identica, I wonder why that isJan 17 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 90 dents!Jan 17 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Old age and #Ethernet ports http://is.gd/JNW9Yl #hardwareJan 17 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Ballmer's Microsoft desperately needs a makeover - Needs to be radical to avoid the stench of poo http://bit.ly/ealIOIJan 17 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @FairCopy4Canada: Speak Out on Copyright: Canadians have 2 weeks to submit views on copyright bill (C-32) - http://fb.me/yTjmTHJPJan 17 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 417 tser: Sinimas's flight will be... nerve-wracking. http://bit.ly/hun6Es #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitJan 17 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @evan How would federation work for Diaspora? Anyone working on such code? I thought Diaspora is oStatus based?Jan 17 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: Interview with School Libraries in Canada http://craphound.com/?p=3292Jan 17 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mrkuma: RT @rafaels76: #LinBerry, un Desktop Manager para #BlackBerry en #Linux - http://goo.gl/Yq0YNJan 17 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] First 25% of Freedom by Suarez done. Hard to put down.Jan 17 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @kirschner: Good article about the dangers of #cloudcomputing (in German) http://ur1.ca/2vl8v #fs #gnu #fsfeJan 17 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @MeaganTrush: Two cents on election finance reform: http://ow.ly/3FiI0 #cdnpoliJan 17 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: Coping Mechanism http://j.mp/hLLwfcJan 17 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Nobody thinks they know what they are doing. Suicide by CEO.Jan 17 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @FantasyBookClub: Join the discussion with author panel - Karin Lowachee, Joshua Palmatier, and Gail Z Martin. http://fb.me/R90XFEqWJan 17 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #HabenWill #WantOne - no Android, pure GNU/Linux goodness as it seems http://www.realease.com/?page_id=1802Jan 17 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @mikkohypponen: RT @metabrew: I'm suspicious that welsh is actually just english after rot13: http://yfrog.com/h8dovej | It's Alan Cox ;-)Jan 17 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The VIA TTM/GEM Patch Appears Ready: Just one month ago an independent developer began working on VIA TTM/GEM su... http://bit.ly/dTHgqJJan 17 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @natfriedman: India has outsourced their visa processing -- I am not making this up -- to what appears to be a US firm. < #Irony #ROTFLJan 17 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] first downloads via synchrotron, happy happy joy joy. next up: move it from the staging server to something officially kde :)Jan 17 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: makes total sense, although ironic at first sight, for both sides!Jan 17 20:58
_Goblinschestowitz: good show....cheers mateJan 17 21:05
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GoForbes28helloJan 17 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @MeaganTrush: CPC attack ads are what's really un-Canadian today. We're more polite than that: http://ow.ly/3Fl58 #cdnpoliJan 17 21:13
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GoForbes28complete random topic: is there any connections between Bill Gates/his bank acc...err "Foundation" and Peter Gabriel?Jan 17 21:13
GoForbes28anyone?Jan 17 21:17
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MinceRi don't even know who Peter Gabriel isJan 17 21:17
GoForbes28-_-Jan 17 21:18
GoForbes28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_gabrielJan 17 21:18
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GoForbes28former singer of Genesis?Jan 17 21:18
MinceRi might have heard of himJan 17 21:18
GoForbes28Human rights and internet activist?Jan 17 21:18
schestowitzhjI, GoForbes28Jan 17 21:18
GoForbes28helloJan 17 21:18
GoForbes28*royJan 17 21:18
_goblin_netbookI thought that was phil collinsJan 17 21:19
schestowitzjust finished recording a 2-hour episodeJan 17 21:19
_goblin_netbooknot Peter GabrielJan 17 21:19
schestowitz[21:13] <GoForbes28> complete random topic: is there any connections between Bill Gates/his bank acc...err "Foundation" and Peter Gabriel?Jan 17 21:19
GoForbes28thought what was phil collins?Jan 17 21:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: Did the troll get mentioned?Jan 17 21:19
schestowitzNone that I know of, why?Jan 17 21:19
GoForbes28I dunnoJan 17 21:19
_goblin_netbookGoForbes28, yeah genesis singerJan 17 21:19
_goblin_netbook"invisible touch"Jan 17 21:19
GoForbes28it was Peter and Phil was drummer initiallyJan 17 21:19
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schestowitzsebsebseb: which troll?Jan 17 21:20
GoForbes28Then Peter left, phil became the singer and occasional drummerJan 17 21:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah which, there are more than oneJan 17 21:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: I mean the Ubuntu Community Member, who is apparantly a trollJan 17 21:20
schestowitzGoForbes28: you have been away for a while, do I didn't update the wiki queueJan 17 21:20
GoForbes28Roy, I just know that Peter is very pro human rights and it occured to me that he and the gates foundation likely crossed paths at some pointJan 17 21:21
GoForbes28I was hoping there wasn't any unpleasant assocationsJan 17 21:21
GoForbes28yeah, I've been pretty busyJan 17 21:21
MinceRas if the gate$ foundation was pro-human rights :>Jan 17 21:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: _goblin_netbook what happended to ThistleWeb anyway?Jan 17 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer PCI:DSS is so freaking hard and shifts the risk so much that it makes sense to outsource VISA processing to a certified company.Jan 17 21:22
_goblin_netbookhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK3N2DC3FdsJan 17 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Genesis - Invisible Touch (Invisible Touch Tour)    .::. Size~: 141.74 KBJan 17 21:22
GoForbes28MinceR: yeah, but it pretends to be under a illusionJan 17 21:22
_goblin_netbookyeah thought soJan 17 21:22
GoForbes28yep, that's phil's eraJan 17 21:22
GoForbes28I prefer Peter to PhilJan 17 21:22
GoForbes28In my opinion he is  more innovative and talentedJan 17 21:24
GoForbes28Plus was a very early supported of the Internet, including for music distributionJan 17 21:24
GoForbes28are we all still here?Jan 17 21:27
GoForbes28and what happened to Gordon?Jan 17 21:27
MinceRi'm still hereJan 17 21:28
MinceRbut i know next to nothing about GenesisJan 17 21:28
*MinceR is listening to: DMC - http://Remix.Kwed.Org - Noisy Pillars (2005 Studio Mix)Jan 17 21:28
GoForbes28progressive rock band from the late sixties to early ninetiesJan 17 21:30
GoForbes28from the UKJan 17 21:30
*MinceR prefers trance and metal, mostlyJan 17 21:30
GoForbes28trance?Jan 17 21:30
MinceRGoForbes28: (flash) (audio) http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/Jan 17 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] These guy's business site rocks: http://wehatetourismtours.com/ Tourism Tours in Lisbon, Portugal, for people who hate tourism tours.Jan 17 21:32
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MinceR(though i don't share his hatred of Anthem Trance, Dream Trance, Epic Trance, Dutch Trance, quite the opposite)Jan 17 21:33
MinceR(and i don't share his hatred of Tiesto either :> )Jan 17 21:33
MinceRstill, it's a great guideJan 17 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I was initially disappointed at being categorized as an extremist" Martin Luther King, Jr. http://is.gd/0rNjyFJan 17 21:35
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GoForbes28ah okJan 17 21:36
GoForbes28roy?Jan 17 21:37
schestowitzheyJan 17 21:46
schestowitzCan you co-write this weekJan 17 21:46
schestowitzI have many patent postsJan 17 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Steve Jobs Taking Medical Leave. Cheering Heard From Redmond - http://bit.ly/hHGkEfJan 17 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Jobs Taking Medical Leave. Cheering Heard From Redmond | Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 22.01 KBJan 17 21:47
schestowitzThey need your remarks and stuff, all the links in place with notesJan 17 21:47
GoForbes28I'll give it a tryJan 17 21:48
schestowitzok, let me add some...Jan 17 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] ♺ @elbek !fotolibre Un banquero suizo formaliza la entrega a !wikileaks de miles de datos de cuentas secretas http://bonifaz.ec/1hJan 17 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Un ex banquero suizo entrega a Wikileaks los datos de 2.000 cuentas secretas · ELPAÍS.com .::. Size~: 137.24 KBJan 17 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Unity Mockups look OK, but last time I tried it it was slower than Gnome http://ping.fm/wrT7PJan 17 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I am on the new Digg! You should follow me at http://digg.com/appelondJan 17 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4 Beautiful Ubuntu Unity UI Mockups/Ideas | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 48.96 KBJan 17 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dennis Appelon Nielsen (appelond) - Digg .::. Size~: 29.33 KBJan 17 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice User Interface Mockups (With Sidebar) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog http://ping.fm/YjLm4Jan 17 21:53
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schestowitzOh, I didn't realised there were comments here.. http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-01-14-007-35-OS-CY-SWJan 17 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - OMG!Ubuntu! Likes Mono .::. Size~: 85.67 KBJan 17 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Co-founder — Like Microsoft and #IntellectualVentures — Helps Add Patent Tax to !Linux http://is.gd/p778mc #swpats #intervalJan 17 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] 2do !cablegate !Guatemala http://rod.gs/wkgt02 #08GUATEMALA867 !wikileaksJan 17 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @silner actually, Unity _is_ faster than GNOME Shell (because Compiz is faster than Mutter)...Jan 17 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Co-founder — Like Microsoft and Intellectual Ventures — Helps Add Patent Tax to Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.52 KBJan 17 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ARM Powered OLPC XO-1.75 Laptop Is Faster Than X86 http://ping.fm/wlSD6Jan 17 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @toros: Only on some graphics cards. I know. I've tried. On some Intel integrated cards Gnome is much fasterJan 17 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] God. Will I ever get this episode done.... OoJan 17 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thom Holwerda: How to Encode to WebM http://ping.fm/PfM49Jan 17 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @toros: Should also clarify I never have effects turned on. But that's the way I use GnomeJan 17 22:12
MinceRhttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3895091/Forking-KDE-3-Trinity-KDEs-Timothy-Pearson.htmJan 17 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Forking KDE 3: Trinity KDE's Timothy Pearson — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 89.82 KBJan 17 22:12
MinceRwtfJan 17 22:12
GoForbes28what?Jan 17 22:15
MinceRthat was my reaction exactlyJan 17 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thom Holwerda: Lane Fox Promises sub-100 GBP PCs http://ping.fm/dRb7ZJan 17 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lane Fox Promises sub-100 GBP PCs .::. Size~: 24.24 KBJan 17 22:18
GoForbes28to what?Jan 17 22:19
MinceRthe article i linkedJan 17 22:19
MinceRand pearson's ideas about what kde3 and kde4 areJan 17 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] TorrentFreak: Arrested Pirate Party Member Becomes Tunisian Minister http://ping.fm/rX6BZJan 17 22:20
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GoForbes28oh yeahJan 17 22:23
GoForbes28Roy: I'll be back laterJan 17 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Linux Plumbers conf 2011 call for tracks - http://is.gd/XnDTXAJan 17 22:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LKML: Jesse Barnes: Linux Plumbers' Conference 2011: Call for Tracks .::. Size~: 7.4 KBJan 17 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arrested Pirate Party Member Becomes Tunisian Minister - http://bit.ly/eXQq1e “against censorship, against intellectual property rights”Jan 17 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody Arrested Pirate Party Member Becomes Tunisian Minister http://bit.ly/eXQq1e against censorship and intellectual property rightsJan 17 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Caligula's tomb found after police arrest man trying to smuggle statue - http://bit.ly/fpi4MS exciting (v @LifeinSicily)Jan 17 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #EU: Enhanced cooperation in the area of the creation of unitary patent protection - http://bit.ly/g99itu indecent haste (v @FFII)Jan 17 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Legislative Observatory: Procedure file, legislative dossier - European Parliament, NLE/2010/0384 .::. Size~: 45.8 KBJan 17 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods I'm tired.... Let's see if shitloads of green tea help....Jan 17 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @thp: I can now control the !ps3 Move controller bulb from Linux via a modified linmctool :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/thp4/5365287620/Jan 17 22:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "I do not believe in leaks. I would execute leakers. They're betraying our country. " -Ralph Peters | http://is.gd/WGtsWcJan 17 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  People OK with murdering Assange - 01-16-2011 @ 5:03pm EDT .::. Size~: 4.56 KBJan 17 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Arrested Pirate Party Member Becomes Tunisian Minister - http://bit.ly/eXQq1e “against censorship, against intellectual pr ...Jan 17 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @mivael "It's better to go slowly to the right place than go quickly to the wrong place." (Richard Stallman) !q !fsf http://ur1.ca/2vsocJan 17 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Partner #Tuxera Tries to Add Patent Tax to Android Through Linux, #Intel Plays Along With #MeeGo http://is.gd/89BkCS #swpats #fsJan 17 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft’s Partner Tuxera Tries to Add Patent Tax to Android Through Linux, Intel Plays Along With MeeGo | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.21 KBJan 17 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @silner you mean gnome with metacity?Jan 17 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody #EU: Enhanced cooperation in the area of the creation of unitary patent protection - http://bit.ly/g99itu indecent haste ( ...Jan 17 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[soloojos/@soloojos] ¿Qué hacía #Assange en 2001? http://ur1.ca/2vtkj !wikileaksJan 17 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] Ab wieviel Exemplaren gibt's eigentlich eine goldene CD? http://bit.ly/dLelzB !wikileaks !piratenpartei !datenschutz !transparenzJan 17 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @toros: Yes. That's a good way of putting it. I should have thought of that :)Jan 17 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @toros: I've never been in spinning cubes and tilting windows. It's just distracting :)Jan 17 23:32
MinceRgnJan 17 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] warsaw #hackerspace server is back on-line. backup procedure underway. investigation - today during working hours. @hackerspaceplJan 17 23:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am reading regit commentsJan 17 23:59

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