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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] What is the state of Sun's key open source projects a year after Oracle? Eduardo catalogues them: http://wmk.me/i1mcC9Jan 19 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 2.6.38-rc1 http://lwn.net/Articles/423624/rssJan 19 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] This photo of davej et al needs a caption - http://is.gd/rWZXRTJan 19 00:13
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opening Reception at Jillian's | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 91.99 KBJan 19 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2011/01/18 http://bit.ly/esEZAIJan 19 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to BBC world service saying how they will give you details of the royal wedding dress #failJan 19 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Role Attribute Last Call Working Draft http://ow.ly/1aVndcJan 19 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of WAI-ARIA for Accessible Rich Internet Applications http://ow.ly/1aVndbJan 19 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the EPA to ban the pesticide that's killing bees! http://bit.ly/dVtOd9Jan 19 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Comcast/NBC deal approved by FCC, even though millions of people spoke out against this http://ur1.ca/2x8nw !wlJan 19 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Jailed Pirate Party member becomes Tunisian government minister http://ur1.ca/2x8qv !wlJan 19 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] LAPD gang and narcotics officers don't like being monitored for corruption http://ur1.ca/2x8rn !wlJan 19 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Politicians urge judge to be lenient with drug dealing aide to mayor of Boston http://ur1.ca/2x8saJan 19 00:53
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finance Probe Raises Ire Among Some LAPD Officers : NPR .::. Size~: 57.14 KBJan 19 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz "How to help by writing for Techrights." I like the way this is going. #cooperation http://ur1.ca/2x8qcJan 19 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] MJF talks about something MS are doing, many of us wonder; what are they up to? http://ur1.ca/2x8y9 #html5Jan 19 01:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The HTML5 logo reminds me of the Transformers logo. http://www.w3.org/html/logo/Jan 19 01:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Linux 2.6.38-rc1 Is Here With Two Features Linus Loves: After keeping the Linux 2.6.38 kernel merge window open ... http://bit.ly/gEqoZwJan 19 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Maybe the hopefully temporary departure of Steve Jobs illustrates the strength of !FLOSS !GNU no matter who leaves the software lives on.Jan 19 01:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Playing with !ubuntu 11.04 Unity. Above all get rid of #mono.#FLOSS flexibility we want. #upstreamJan 19 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @PMJaniszewski: NEW: Can you be obese and healthy? http://bit.ly/huEeOZ <- My guest post on @sciamJan 19 01:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @phoronix: Open-Source Projects Are Getting Ripped Off On Amazon http://bit.ly/g9kqPlJan 19 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Martha Lane Fox; the digital champion of British PM sees old MS comps turned into something that works. !fs !linux !gnu http://ur1.ca/2x99dJan 19 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] awesome! http://ur1.ca/2x99z (more info here: http://ur1.ca/2x9a0Jan 19 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.K. government subsidizes Linux PCs for the poor and unwired - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.44 KBJan 19 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New blog post: "censorship and children" http://ur1.ca/2x9b8 #Shakespeare #Twain #Frankenweenie #MLKJan 19 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bankers are paid too much admits RBS chief. "Gangster" culture. http://ur1.ca/2x9bi #greed #antisocialbehaviourJan 19 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] >> gotta go grab dinnerJan 19 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: Hello. you are late tonight. (says 4 day absentee)Jan 19 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have !TB oggcast to catch up on goodnight GPL proponents.Jan 19 02:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How long has TR been down?Jan 19 02:23
DaemonFCMy brother's school worked out a deal with Red Hat a while backJan 19 02:40
DaemonFCthey use RHEL on all the computers thereJan 19 02:41
DaemonFCit's not as Microsoft-dominated here as schestowitz puts it, but it's a clusterfuck of Windows and every Linux distribution you've heard ofJan 19 02:42
DaemonFCas far as education and libraries goJan 19 02:42
DaemonFCApple offered the school a whopping 10% discount when the school was taking bids and got laughed out of the discussionJan 19 02:43
DaemonFCat least Microsoft can usually manage a compelling dumping operationJan 19 02:44
DaemonFCWhat's 10% off a $1,500 Mac? :)Jan 19 02:44
DaemonFCthat almost makes up for the state sales taxJan 19 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British coalition government wants to cut the number of mp's to save money not for political reasons. #chickenfeed£12m #whataboutpr? #liesJan 19 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In Britain. Content aside, why would anyone watch SKY news? With short frequent adverts are they trying trigger seisures? #mudoch #GuanoJan 19 03:05
cubezzzComcast definitely bears watchingJan 19 03:10
cubezzzI'm glad I don't have to deal with ComcastJan 19 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !freedom, it is good for shouting at rallies and mentioning in speeches. Like democracy it is a word that can in the end mean nothing.Jan 19 03:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just back in SG from LK. Should I go to #sggovcamp? Am signed up for that though.Jan 19 03:15
DaemonFCcubezzz, The only reason to have Comcast that I can see is if you've got lousy credit and can't get anything elseJan 19 03:16
DaemonFCtheir equipment is shit and their network goes out every other day around hereJan 19 03:16
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DaemonFCI got stuck with the task of routing out all the crapware that Comcast's tech installed on my stepdad's computerJan 19 03:17
DaemonFCstandard homepage hijacker, searchbar, spyware that logs your browsing historyJan 19 03:17
cubezzzsounds awfulJan 19 03:17
DaemonFClitters your desk with icons to Comcast sitesJan 19 03:17
DaemonFCbasically takes over the systemJan 19 03:18
cubezzzuh, surely a Linux system would be immune?Jan 19 03:18
DaemonFCI went so far as to search the registry for Comcast and deleted the keysJan 19 03:18
cubezzzor Plan 9, or BSD, or ... :)Jan 19 03:18
DaemonFCthey refuse to activate it if you use LinuxJan 19 03:18
DaemonFCthe tech drops in the modem and says good luckJan 19 03:18
DaemonFCand you get to explain what Linux is to about 10 people on the phone spanning 4 hoursJan 19 03:19
DaemonFC:)Jan 19 03:19
DaemonFCbefore they push a button and activate the modemJan 19 03:19
cubezzzso tell them you use Plan 9 :)Jan 19 03:19
DaemonFCthey kept asking if I meant I had a MacJan 19 03:19
cubezzzhey, you must have solved that problem, you're using xchatJan 19 03:19
cubezzzon fedora 14Jan 19 03:19
DaemonFCI'm at my houseJan 19 03:20
cubezzztell them you use Plan 9 with your own custom bios :)Jan 19 03:20
DaemonFCmy stepdad insists on Windows XPJan 19 03:20
cubezzzoh well thenJan 19 03:20
DaemonFCbut I did manage to install Ubuntu on my brother's PC over thereJan 19 03:20
DaemonFCI asked one of them what they would do if I didn't have a PC and just wanted to use the modem with my game consoleJan 19 03:21
DaemonFCthey said they'd just go ahead and activate itJan 19 03:21
DaemonFCso I told them to pretend I said thatJan 19 03:21
cubezzzDaemonFC, I own my own DSL modem and it connects to a FreenetJan 19 03:21
DaemonFCComcast that isJan 19 03:21
cubezzzI got it all coveredJan 19 03:21
DaemonFCI have my own DSL modem nowJan 19 03:22
DaemonFCit just logs in with PPPoEJan 19 03:22
DaemonFCno crap where they insist on renting me the modem and isntalling their spywareJan 19 03:23
cubezzzis comcast really refusing to service Linux customers?Jan 19 03:23
DaemonFCnot outright refusing, it's just that most of their customers probably only use a Windows PC or a Mac, so it's all they bother making their foistware forJan 19 03:24
DaemonFCthey make installing foistware a requirement to activate the modem to make sure it invades every PCJan 19 03:24
DaemonFCtheir phone support is only trained for Windows and MacJan 19 03:24
DaemonFCif you dig, they'll give up and activate the modemJan 19 03:24
cubezzzI haven't talked to my ISP in yearsJan 19 03:25
DaemonFCthey get money for installing the foistwareJan 19 03:25
DaemonFCso they try to be aggressive with itJan 19 03:25
DaemonFCthe custom Yahoo search alone gets them moneyJan 19 03:25
DaemonFCapparently the $60 a month for their standard residential internet service isn't enoughJan 19 03:26
DaemonFCthey have to dive for click pennies tooJan 19 03:26
DaemonFCI asked the tech "Is the $60 a month not enough, do you have to pollute my PC as well?"Jan 19 03:27
DaemonFCSBC's was actually worseJan 19 03:27
DaemonFCthey dumped in Microsoft Java (after it was unsupported and full of known holes) and their own browser (which was an IE shell)Jan 19 03:27
DaemonFCand their own branded Yahoo Messenger that would overwrite the one you already had and break its uninstaller :DJan 19 03:28
DaemonFCFirefox 4 will only have compositing if you have an Ncidia card and use the blobJan 19 03:36
DaemonFCniceJan 19 03:36
DaemonFCMozilla says most Linux video drivers are so flaky that they either crash X outright or just have display problemsJan 19 03:36
DaemonFC*NvidiaJan 19 03:36
cubezzznvidia is hostile to open sourceJan 19 03:37
DaemonFCjust another reason in the pile of reasons to ditch FirefoxJan 19 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pretty interesting paper on cybersecurity risk reduction from OECD/IFP - http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/3/42/46894657.pdf #fbJan 19 03:38
DaemonFCWe love open source so much that we leave shit broken and disabled on Linux, onlyJan 19 03:39
DaemonFC:)Jan 19 03:39
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cubezzzthere are people in coreboot trying to get their motherboards to bootJan 19 03:42
cubezzzeventually they will success and learn 1000x as much as the average personJan 19 03:42
cubezzzsucceedJan 19 03:42
cubezzzand beyond that home brew computers are making a big come-backJan 19 03:43
DaemonFChmmm, mflow has a Chrome appJan 19 03:48
DaemonFCnice :DJan 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I suppose I should find out the process for moving a !Drupal 6 site to #D7, and whether I can use something like #SimpleScripts to do so.Jan 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good morning all. Less than required hours of sleep to squeeze in.Jan 19 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looks like #sggovcamp is a place for subtle and not so subtle Microsoft product placement. Surprised? Nah. Par for the course. #fbJan 19 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] if the open source community came together and helped run a #sggovcamp, would a minister agree to speak as well?Jan 19 04:00
cubezzzaround 1995 sound card manufacturers changed from ISA to PCI cards and then...Jan 19 04:00
cubezzzthe stopped publishing programming documentation for their cardsJan 19 04:01
cubezzzwas 1995 a bad era or whatJan 19 04:01
DaemonFCI can't remember the last time I bought a sound cardJan 19 04:04
DaemonFCmost of them aren't any better than what's on the motherboardJan 19 04:04
cubezzzhrmmJan 19 04:05
DaemonFCa decent one with hardware mixing is a good deal of moneyJan 19 04:05
DaemonFCand then you have to figure out if it works in Linux at allJan 19 04:05
DaemonFCand if you decide that a binary driver is good enough, enjoy it until they decide to stop supporting it, say 6 monthsJan 19 04:06
DaemonFCjust like any other multimedia device with a nonfree kernel blobJan 19 04:06
DaemonFCyou have the same problem on Windows, it's just that most people don't know that since Windows releases are infrequent and there's some chance your old driver still worksJan 19 04:08
cubezzzI'm still learning new things about my jazz16 card and it's 18 years oldJan 19 04:08
cubezzzoh and the manufacturer is long goneJan 19 04:09
cubezzzit doesn't stop meJan 19 04:09
DaemonFCI miss ZIP disks B-)Jan 19 04:09
DaemonFCno, not reallyJan 19 04:09
cubezzzyes I assume cdr's work ok :)Jan 19 04:09
DaemonFCyeah, and the drives are cheaper to replace when they give outJan 19 04:10
cubezzzreplacement components are a concernJan 19 04:10
DaemonFCI managed to rig my uncle's old ZIP drive to work long enough to salvage some old filesJan 19 04:11
DaemonFCit didn't work long after that thoughJan 19 04:11
cubezzzI have a dozen 50-pin scsi cdrom drives thoughJan 19 04:11
DaemonFChe could have easily lost all the files he stored on thoseJan 19 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think I will be happier if I skip #sggovcamp all together. it is already annoying reading the tweets. worse if I am there.Jan 19 04:12
cubezzzmy amiga diskettes didn't survive, I lost a lot of stuffJan 19 04:12
cubezzzno where near as good as cdr for archiving purposesJan 19 04:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Butterfly-Amazon Open-Source Saga Continues: Since a few hours ago when talking about how a company is rippi... http://bit.ly/gFsZE9Jan 19 04:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] #sggovcamp is no barcamp. i think we need to keep that in mind.Jan 19 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] non-MS products shall not be mentioned at a MS-sponsored #sgGovCamp. duh!Jan 19 04:18
utsuwaMS have nothing to gain from mentioning non-MS products...Jan 19 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "Obama, entourage showered with Saudi gifts: report" http://is.gd/ABzzuhJan 19 04:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just a reminder, !fedora devels! You should submit ideas for GSoC and FSC for this summer! http://ur1.ca/2s157Jan 19 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pallab Saha should have excellent info to share - he has helped IDA to develop the SG gov enterprise architecture. #sggovcampJan 19 04:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Sinimas watches the battle naively http://bit.ly/fq45mC #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitJan 19 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Damn I took some nice photos today. Now to figure out using mencoder to make a timelapseJan 19 04:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I learned so much about SG govt EA from Pallab's talk at http://tinyurl.com/698bqaq than from any other place #sggovcampJan 19 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] The new venue for !lca2011 is QUT - Kelvin Grove campus. http://is.gd/ahBioE Easy to get to on a dedicated busway from CBD & UrbanestJan 19 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://agonist.org/chickadee/20110118/so_you_think_death_threats_are_against_the_lawJan 19 04:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So you think death threats are against the law? | The Agonist .::. Size~: 27.67 KBJan 19 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @cerventus: Where is the bottle neck? At the Top. A great metaphor in #SgGovCampJan 19 04:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera yes, later still. I did finish my final edit, taking a break before last format skim & upload tomorrow. I've been off abt sameJan 19 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @arjenlentz ♺ @linuxconfau: The new venue for !lca2011 is QUT - Kelvin Grove campus. http://is.gd/ahBioE Easy to get to via busway fr ...Jan 19 05:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Vatican letter on sex abuse from '97 revealed http://ur1.ca/2xcxl !wlJan 19 05:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CBC News - World - Vatican letter on sex abuse from '97 revealed .::. Size~: 39.05 KBJan 19 05:07
schestowitzHmmm... seems like that techrights site was down 2-4. Is that so?Jan 19 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Good news, i didnt miss enrolment day for college! :) #shitalmosthappensJan 19 05:08
nisshh:O works then :)Jan 19 05:12
schestowitzWell, I received alert it was down in that periodJan 19 05:12
nisshhschestowitz, sorry, i meant the dent bot :)Jan 19 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] IMHO Gov2.0 is really about the govt getting out of the way and letting the citizens connect/confer/solve/build. Not easy. #sggovcampJan 19 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Am told that sponsoring events like #sggovcamp is a kpi for all MS country GMs.Jan 19 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It's amazing how your mail server being misconfigured as an open relay for a few days can make your life hell for three weeks after.Jan 19 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] (read: All my mails being returned unsent or sent to bulk because my server has such bad karma now)Jan 19 05:25
schestowitzhttp://www.sxc.hu/blog/post/1371#commentsJan 19 05:36
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schestowitznisshh: oh, I see...Jan 19 05:36
nisshhheheJan 19 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Latest Examples of the Failure of the #USPTO , With Emphasis on Software Patents http://is.gd/LlaE2A #swpats #patent #maths #monopolyJan 19 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Roundup: Software Patent Opinions in the UK http://is.gd/s4M4Ct #swpatsJan 19 06:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patents Roundup: Software Patent Opinions in the UK | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.68 KBJan 19 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Huh... thought I'd break from !mynovel with a blogpost about censorship... but it expanded so much I spit it into two.... got it done & up..Jan 19 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...2 discover Cdn Broadcast Standards just banned 25 yr old Dire Straits 'Money for Nothing' http://www.p2pnet.net/story/47756 #cdnpoliJan 19 06:18
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedomJan 19 06:29
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010Jan 19 06:29
schestowitz[06:22] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [rrix/@rrix] meh, I shot the sunset at two different zoom levels, doesn't really work when I combine them in to a video using mencoder :Jan 19 06:30
schestowitz[06:22] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @_matilda__ ♺ @debihope Reason alcoholics do a 4th Step is so that they know what Ricky Gervais will say abt them in advance > RG rocksJan 19 06:30
schestowitz[06:28] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer planning to come to Fosdem, but still no precise bookingJan 19 06:30
schestowitz[06:28] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 420 The Press Prints  Stuff http://bit.ly/dzfcLY #wedlit #webfic #fantasy #reading #scifiJan 19 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 66: Airbrush http://ur1.ca/2xf1lJan 19 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work.Jan 19 06:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Roundup: A Quick Look at #Europe http://is.gd/z2ppx3 #nz #eu #swpats #epo #edri #monopoly #injunctionJan 19 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ @laurelrusswurm] Both Bryron Sonne and Bradley Manning have NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING - state abuse of power #Fre ...Jan 19 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Benjamin Orndorff From Microsoft/Gates and Ellis Represents the #CTPN Patents Cartel http://is.gd/AEOxKF #microsoft #swpats #novellJan 19 06:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mackrauss Wanna see @doctorow? "Boundaries, Frontiers & Gatekeepers: the 3rd annual U of T student conf" bfgischool-estw.eventbrite.comJan 19 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lnxwalt140 ??? Why is 'Baby Doc' back in Haiti? Why haven't they arrested him? Not getting this at all.Jan 19 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Executive order: Gov. Haslam throws out income disclosure rules http://is.gd/ENilG2 passing a law to protect *himself*. Abuse of power.Jan 19 07:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Alexis de Tocqueville http://is.gd/WXCLYS "Philip Morris had hired #ADTI to campaign against tobacco regulations." #EnemiesOfHumanityJan 19 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I bite my thumb at you.Jan 19 07:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Alexis de Tocqueville Institution | Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 28.12 KBJan 19 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @swadeshine Poll finds youth more radically opposed to government than tea parties > http://goo.gl/lVk8x #BieberBrigade?Jan 19 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Somehow Oingo Boingo's No Spill Blood just makes me hacking on semantic mediawiki queries so much better.Jan 19 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !IdentiverseJan 19 07:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Youth more radically opposed to present government than tea parties, poll finds |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 36.94 KBJan 19 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] That's the live version from Farewell. The BEST version of No Spill Blood, hands down.Jan 19 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Canadian Press: Ex-Swiss banker says he'll hand files on alleged tax evasion in offshore havens to !WikiLeaks http://is.gd/uHQpjB #chJan 19 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] huzzah! Fixed the query. Pesky automatic limit of 50 in SMW queries.Jan 19 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Real Domestic Extremists http://is.gd/fhsi9q "Who threatens us most - peaceful campaigners or a private militia run by police chiefs?"Jan 19 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internal wars are tolerated as long as the pillar of the nation (big business) is not hurt by them and gains from the distractionJan 19 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carlopiana Japanese railway put to a halt due to computer failure. http://ur1.ca/2w4f3Jan 19 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Your face is young and shiny, transformed right before my eyes Without warning, without reason To samurai and lizards.Jan 19 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tax havens and the men who stole the world http://is.gd/Q2yQhR they rarely get prison for it, so no deterrentJan 19 07:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gnufreex I just installed !Debian !GNU/!Linux 6.0 RC1. Loving it.Jan 19 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegocom: New mailing list to coordinate MeeGo events work: http://bit.ly/fae3WC Related wiki page: http://bit.ly/bWoR2tJan 19 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: Just favorited 'The Mobile Market and Qt' on SlideShare. http://slidesha.re/avEckZJan 19 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Of China, Piracy and Open Source http://is.gd/C0PBuO more lies from the #BSA & #Microsoft - they are shown they lie,but they repeat it stillJan 19 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @mece66: User info can now be displayed on user columns :) #tweedsuit #N900 http://twitpic.com/3raccrJan 19 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: TxPad: a text/code editor http://goo.gl/i6Hby #N900 #MaemoJan 19 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Qtv: Qml interface for searching TV show information from thetvdb.com http://goo.gl/ZygqX #N900 #Maemo via @alextootchieJan 19 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts Assassins Creed WebOS: Playable Patch Install Guide for #N900 - http://youtu.be/PkrUeXRS13c #maemo #nokia via @360NextLevelJan 19 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer #Facebook "listens" to users and will not publish address and phone number to apps ATM. Boy, am I glad I left FB. ...Jan 19 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Canonical fragments GNOME by putting #unity in #ubuntu and now it 'betrays' #GTK too http://is.gd/psaGlGJan 19 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qt Applications To Be Evaluated For Inclusion On The Ubuntu CD Starting With Natty+1 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 55.77 KBJan 19 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An HTML5 Logo http://is.gd/FRsHW8 #www #w3c #HTML5Jan 19 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva anyone has the guts to register kilobama.org (short for one thousand US presidents :-) at godaddy? !wlJan 19 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[F]rom now on, all government departments in Latvia must accept documents in ODF." http://is.gd/Kl3bwi #opendocument #standard #LatviaJan 19 07:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @andyc: @tjgillies I don't really call software 'sexy' but the D7 UI is very pleasing on the eye and well designed IMHO.Jan 19 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] What a day yesterday. So busy.... normality will hopefully be restored this evening. Sorry to all expecting show notes for !techbytes ep26Jan 19 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes "We have normality, we have normality; anything else you can't deal with is your own problem" - Douglas AdamsJan 19 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And now at work :(Jan 19 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @graziano No double standards: supporting Google's push for #WebM: http://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webm !fsf !gnu !linux !gnewsens ...Jan 19 08:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.73 KBJan 19 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @schestowitz "[F]rom now on, all government departments in Latvia must accept documents in ODF." http://is.gd/Kl3bwi #standardJan 19 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at NetCologne GK-Büro Bonn http://ur1.ca/2tt4u #4sqJan 19 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Belgian gov probes #Apple's new rules on magazine subscriptions for iPad - http://ur1.ca/2wiyq :-)Jan 19 08:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For those who could not get ogg/mp3 - the !techbytes downloads are fast again(had a lot of traffic recently, over 300,000 uncached hits/day)Jan 19 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've just had a fascinating verbal chat with one who thinks that not conforming w/ society means needing a shrink.I convinced her at the endJan 19 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If people whose job is harmful to society are never told that (for fear of offending someone), how will they ever decide to change a career?Jan 19 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Just extended my status.net dent to 280 so that I can annoy people twice as much. Good thing !mustard acknowledges th... http://ur1.ca/2xhxjJan 19 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People's fear of being associated with "hate" "treason" or simply *forming an opinion* is exacerbated by means of mass communication. #prJan 19 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at GGS Münsterschule http://ur1.ca/2xhy5 #4sqJan 19 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Be a good citizen. Don't talk about war, talk about Justin Bieber's new haircut. ;-) ;-)Jan 19 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] W3C's new logo promotes HTML5--and more http://is.gd/UxCJFZ the Web helps organise many people's opinionsJan 19 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People sometimes ask what "brave leader" approach is... use of crisis to unify a nation under one leader who's portrayed as "saving the day"Jan 19 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] AU Gov mandates exclusive use of OOXML only - wow! - http://www.itnews.com.au/News/245228,agimo-moves-to-lock-down-government-pcs.aspx #fbJan 19 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the press in your country applies "brave leader" treatment to existing leaders, assess freedom of the press,then apply the "fascism test"Jan 19 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Reporter Judith Miller retired after...actually inaccurate and overtly favorable to the Bush administration's position" http://is.gd/i11A1qJan 19 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @harishpillay actually the article says without exclusion of other formats. Interesting that the primary feature of it is lockdown.Jan 19 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MPlayer Ported for #Android http://is.gd/MtIRbH can advance freer codecs hopefullyJan 19 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] “Anniversary edition t-shirt giveaway: Follow us on Twitter or identi.ca | opensource.com”: http://ur1.ca/2xicpJan 19 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Work is not the opposite of play! http://is.gd/qrQ7IY "greater transparency on employee performance."Jan 19 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cybercom Group Joins Linux Foundation http://is.gd/0rH1K6 the mammoth keeps growing, digesting everything in its path. !linuxJan 19 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks helps bring about a peaceful revolution.By publishing data on tax evaders, for example, corrupt ones will resign or be imprisonedJan 19 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Without !wikileaks we are left with just psychotic fear merchants like Beck and Jones. We need Wikipedia for real, hard data.Jan 19 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fear merchants lead to assassinations. !wikileaks leads to justice based on data presentable in the courtroom.Jan 19 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm rt @carwinb new domain up killsarahpalin.com is on http://www.vivantleakers.org <<that's just as badJan 19 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ex-Banker Gives Data on Taxes to WikiLeaks http://is.gd/I65Q2B #RudolfElmer #Hero #NobelForElmer !wikileaksJan 19 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am sure that bankers are already scraping the bottom of the barrel in Elmer's past, trying to scrape some 'dirt' to defame/jail him. !wlJan 19 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @schestowitz ♺ @laurelrusswurm] Both Bryron Sonne and Bradley Manning have NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING - state abuse of power #Fre ...Jan 19 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rsandu Neelie Kroes on Hungarian Press Act http://is.gd/a0AOHZ #hungary #free #euJan 19 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] <nation>, people of <nation> and government of <nation> are not the same thing. Hungary and Hungarians cannot be held accountable for #OrbanJan 19 08:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EUROPA  -  Press Releases -  Neelie Kroes Vice-President of the European Commission responsible for the Digital Agenda State of play of Commission's examination of Hungarian Media Law Extraordinary meeting of the European Parliament's Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs Committee Strasbourg, 17th January 2011 .::. Size~: 22.85 KBJan 19 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "commentators have alleged that the Hungarian Media Law risks jeopardising fundamental rights in a number of ways" --Neelie Kroes | #orbanJan 19 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rrh Cool times for !WebM in Poland. !Firefox (49%) + Chrome (11.50%) + !Operab (10%) have 70% of market share! Bye-bye IE! !ChromiumJan 19 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lxoliva http://bit.ly/elwnXC <- a medieval shield with a symbol that reminds me too much of a swastika :-( how unfortunateJan 19 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Bees are dying - sign to save them http://ur1.ca/2xipv #AvaazJan 19 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nisshh RT @thafreak If the one application you can't live without on your desktop is a terminal window.... #youmightbeasysadmin !u !linuxJan 19 09:02
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62533593Jan 19 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) في يوم Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 08:57:11 UTC - 280: @schestowitz I think it looks more like the logo for the "Transformers" TV shows and movies.Jan 19 09:03
schestowitzMobbyist: https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/27622439907233792Jan 19 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Concerning patent consortia avoiding regulators as you call this, would you encourage regulatory scrutiny of the OIN?Jan 19 09:03
schestowitzHit a nerve for Microsoft FlorianJan 19 09:04
schestowitzMeans the CPTN thing is not working out for themJan 19 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm What is the deal with #extradition? ... Don't countries require evidence before shipping citizens off to face trial?Jan 19 09:07
nisshhschestowitz, i just met a dude who bases his internet popularity on how many twitter followers he has :|Jan 19 09:07
MinceRgeekingsJan 19 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Inclusion of #Qt in !Ubuntu 11.10 is a win for developers http://goo.gl/rrreuJan 19 09:08
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schestowitznisshh: it's easy to fake like in FacebookJan 19 09:10
schestowitzPeople buy followers sometimes (I never did)Jan 19 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @opensourceway I like your identica feed, but if I dare make a suggestion, please try not to do reruns (adverse to RSS), i.e. linking againJan 19 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Impressive #LibreOffice UI Mockups You Need to See http://goo.gl/cKpuiJan 19 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Impressive LibreOffice UI Mockups You Need to See | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 47.05 KBJan 19 09:10
nisshhschestowitz, wow, really?Jan 19 09:10
nisshhthats, wow...Jan 19 09:10
schestowitznisshh: ask him how many followers he has on identica... or Digg... or MySpaceJan 19 09:10
schestowitzHe just chooses which platform to judge himself byJan 19 09:11
nisshhschestowitz, he only uses twitter and tumblr :|Jan 19 09:11
nisshhand facebook i thinkJan 19 09:11
schestowitzdumb and Dumbr :-)Jan 19 09:11
Diablo-D3dumbrJan 19 09:11
*Diablo-D3 facepalmsJan 19 09:11
nisshhschestowitz, the interesting thing is, he only follows about 45 people on twitterJan 19 09:12
nisshhlolJan 19 09:12
MinceRgesndhtJan 19 09:12
schestowitz"follows"Jan 19 09:12
nisshhi dont like tumblr eitherJan 19 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: #HTML5 logo http://goo.gl/36LldJan 19 09:12
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nisshhMinceR, lolwut?Jan 19 09:12
MinceRnisshh: gesundheit2.0 BETAJan 19 09:12
schestowitzLike people have as many 'friends' as facebooks says they do based on binary/boolean relationship markup in a DB with half a billion nodesJan 19 09:12
nisshhMinceR, i cant read (german?) sorry :)Jan 19 09:13
nisshhschestowitz, yeah, heheJan 19 09:13
schestowitzIt's like Wilt Chamberlain and the claim of how many girls he slept withJan 19 09:13
MinceRnisshh: i've seen it used it in usian cartoonsJan 19 09:13
schestowitzSome people did the mathsJan 19 09:13
nisshhMinceR, asian?Jan 19 09:13
MinceRno, usianJan 19 09:13
schestowitzAnd said he's need like 3 new girls every day.... oh and basketball training too between sessionsJan 19 09:13
nisshhusian?Jan 19 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Brian Burger: Excellent Little Apps: PDF-Shuffler http://goo.gl/P5r4PJan 19 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Judging from mockups I prefer #Gnome3 over #unity. Time will tell.Jan 19 09:13
MinceRusonian, usanian, yankeestani, jesuslandianJan 19 09:13
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schestowitzPeople lie about such things, that's my pointJan 19 09:14
nisshhschestowitz, wow, lolJan 19 09:14
nisshhyeahJan 19 09:14
MinceRunited statesian of americaJan 19 09:14
MinceR:>Jan 19 09:14
schestowitz[09:13] <nisshh> usian?Jan 19 09:14
schestowitzUSianJan 19 09:14
nisshhhe says he uses twitter like a tool, he markets for his company on itJan 19 09:14
schestowitzShorter than saying "citizen of the united states"Jan 19 09:14
nisshhah rightJan 19 09:14
schestowitzThey have no word for itJan 19 09:14
nisshhlolJan 19 09:14
schestowitzother than thje MonroenianJan 19 09:14
MinceRwell, there are a few words but they're rarely usedJan 19 09:14
nisshhive never heard that one before :)Jan 19 09:14
MinceRFrank Lloyd Wright tried to popularize "usonian", iircJan 19 09:15
schestowitz[09:14] <nisshh> yeahJan 19 09:15
schestowitzRemind me of...Jan 19 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun There will be a Linux Outlaws live show tonight at about 19:30 UTC, after Dan has finished hosting FLOSS Weekly on #TWiT. !li ...Jan 19 09:15
schestowitzThe thing one good mate told me,  "my colleague has 500 friends in facebook and he's drier than a dishwasher"Jan 19 09:15
nisshhMinceR, at least we have a solid name (Aussie's)Jan 19 09:15
schestowitznisshh: it's like D&DJan 19 09:15
nisshhheheJan 19 09:16
schestowitzOr MMRPGJan 19 09:16
schestowitzPeople find parallel life platformJan 19 09:16
MinceRthat's MMORPGJan 19 09:16
schestowitzWhere they actually do have friends and are heroesJan 19 09:16
MinceRi prefer tabletop RPGJan 19 09:16
schestowitzTwitter is about posting one's thoughts/stories, not sticking a profile or making "friends"Jan 19 09:16
nisshhschestowitz, this guy also seems to be of the oppinion that if he writes one small application for linux, he will become famous :|Jan 19 09:16
MinceRwow, that means i'm famousJan 19 09:17
MinceR:>Jan 19 09:17
schestowitzI'm glad it's not called "Friends" but "followers" or in identica "Subscribers"... cause that's what they areJan 19 09:17
MinceR:>Jan 19 09:17
nisshhMinceR, same for me evidently (make some room Linus!) :)Jan 19 09:17
nisshhschestowitz, exactlyJan 19 09:17
schestowitzI wouldn't say "this site has #$%^&* RSS subscribers, so it has #$%^&* "friends""Jan 19 09:17
nisshhdo any of you guys use Diaspora? or have checked it out?Jan 19 09:18
schestowitz[09:17] <MinceR> wow, that means i'm famousJan 19 09:18
schestowitzHeh. Me TOO!!11Jan 19 09:18
schestowitzMicrosoft tooJan 19 09:18
schestowitzIt wrote apps for LinuxJan 19 09:18
nisshhyeahJan 19 09:18
MinceRnisshh: looked at it but not using it yetJan 19 09:18
MinceRmy home server needs an overhaulJan 19 09:18
nisshhMinceR, yeah, its still a bit bareJan 19 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I feel old... :( http://goo.gl/QEMwqJan 19 09:18
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nisshhwell, more than a bitJan 19 09:19
schestowitzMinceR: maybe it needs an overhome tooJan 19 09:19
nisshhbut it works wellJan 19 09:19
schestowitzGet Vail(R)Jan 19 09:19
nisshhanywayJan 19 09:19
schestowitzIt's better than Linux because the package is nicer... lots of plastic and stuffJan 19 09:19
schestowitzIt's so good that HP does not want you to have it :-)Jan 19 09:20
nisshhthere are people in the idea's area, who are posting idea's like "make it more like facebook" and put up a "like" button and stuff, which is stupidJan 19 09:20
schestowitzTook it down, put WebOS (Linux) insteadJan 19 09:20
nisshhhehJan 19 09:20
schestowitznisshh: he like button is terribleJan 19 09:20
schestowitzIt looks like a thumb up the **Jan 19 09:20
schestowitzAnd all it does is, it invoked FB cookie for them to spy on all retrievers of the pageJan 19 09:21
schestowitz*invokesJan 19 09:21
nisshhlolJan 19 09:21
nisshhi wouldnt be surprisedJan 19 09:21
nisshhschestowitz, i still dont agree with people who use facebook because "all my friends use it, so i have to" :|Jan 19 09:22
MinceRneither do iJan 19 09:22
nisshhthats some peer pressure right thereJan 19 09:22
nisshhMinceR, but on the flipside, i want all the facebook users to stay on facebook, that way Diaspora will stay fb user free and so have less crap on itJan 19 09:23
schestowitz[09:22] <nisshh> schestowitz, i still dont agree with people who use facebook because "all my friends use it, so i have to" :|Jan 19 09:23
schestowitzYou have to be on Mark's DB to existJan 19 09:23
nisshhhehJan 19 09:23
schestowitzChairman Mark issues passportsJan 19 09:24
MinceRnisshh: does it even matter? diaspora is supposed to be distributed, after all :)Jan 19 09:24
nisshhMinceR, you really want spamming, annoying fb users on Diaspora?Jan 19 09:25
nisshhand all the pointless crap that they post and stuffJan 19 09:25
nisshhi sure dontJan 19 09:25
MinceRnisshh: they should be possible to blockJan 19 09:25
MinceRand people could keep them out of their social networkJan 19 09:25
nisshhMinceR, yeah, you dont have to add them to your aspect on diasporaJan 19 09:25
nisshhbut thats still more work that i would likeJan 19 09:26
nisshhi would prefer to just not be bothered by themJan 19 09:26
MinceRnisshh: at least massive PII gathering operations would be hindered if we could get DumbFuckBook users to move to a distributed, free, trustable systemJan 19 09:26
nisshhtrueJan 19 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] No, I do NOT want to be on LinkedIn. If you need me, I'm right here.Jan 19 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing the newest gPodder release from Fedora updates-testing.Jan 19 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In defence of hackers and open source http://bit.ly/i4tmSo @glynmoody is feeding the troll #LanierJan 19 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody feeding Lanier is like making the mistake #skeptoid used 2 make giving them a platform,helping them. See also http://is.gd/oI59PtJan 19 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody debunking the #BSA is worthwhile cause they don't sell books. It damages them to get this sort of critical recognition.Jan 19 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenOffice.org and #LibreOffice Release Candidates Duke It Out http://is.gd/1ktkU9Jan 19 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice Release Candidates Duke It Out | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 63.88 KBJan 19 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @carlopiana indeed. the mere fact that docx is acceptable is quite shocking.Jan 19 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @bob_sutor: Sending good thoughts toward the many fine people I met in Tunis when I visited there in 2009Jan 19 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RabbitVCS: The Perfect TortoiseSVN Alternative For Linux, Now With GIT Integration As A Plus http://is.gd/GV1hiY #cvs #git #swdevelopmentJan 19 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @harishpillay agree. BTW, they say docx or OOXML? There is quite a difference, you know?Jan 19 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rrix ♻ @segphault: Qt is a better toolkit in many ways. It can bring a lot of value to GNOME if people are sufficiently open minded.Jan 19 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RabbitVCS: The Perfect TortoiseSVN Alternative For Linux, Now With GIT Integration As A Plus ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 58.88 KBJan 19 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carwinb @schestowitz Execute Bradley Manning dot com is up on vivantleakers.orgJan 19 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Every case of so-called 'treason' is the very opposite of treason if judged on a *global*/*universal* scale. #FreeBradJan 19 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jezra off the phone with the dentist; couldn't make an appointment because their computer system was down. I suggested switching to LinuxJan 19 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hmmm... I don't think I ever phoned a dentist. I've never really needed to visit any. so @jezra - what did he say when you suggested Linux?Jan 19 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] All good things happen in chennai , when i leave to home town. example: Functional programming workshop @ though worksJan 19 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh somebody is calling you a tool, saying you are broken http://is.gd/EVtGgY the headline was irresistibleJan 19 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @pmctechblog I'm starting to believe #msn / messenger is filled entirely with #bots, and the bots have learned to contact non-msn servicesJan 19 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer B4 @fauxpatents starts spreading his vitriol wrt webm and patents, you should read http://ur1.ca/2vudm ;-)Jan 19 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... The !LO fundraising effort for @methoddan got on the IndieGoGo homepage. Even *after* we had long raised all the money we need. :)Jan 19 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody Mark Kennedy is not his real nameJan 19 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff @EFF and @ACLU tell the government: get a warrant before tracking cell phones. https://eff.org/r.3wRJan 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz LOL. That doesn't surprise me, even though this time it's not about something I've said.... ;)Jan 19 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    ACLU, EFF Contend Government Needs Probable Cause & Warrant to Track Cell Phones | ACLUTx.org – The American Civil Liberties Union of Texas .::. Size~: 19.47 KBJan 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For the sake of those who protect rights, every person should demand privacy as though s/he was "subversive"Jan 19 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh I thought you'd get a kick outta itJan 19 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @sarah_schmidt_: For those interested in US prohibition on #phthalates (to be mirrored in Canada by June), see http://is.gd/bk1myHJan 19 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @segphault For those who haven't seen them yet, here are some screenshots of my Qt-based Gwibber prototype: http://is.gd/X56o50 < nice!Jan 19 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter support for libraries snowballs worldwide http://is.gd/NGAwYQ libraries are fine. They just become digital. Dead trees industry diesJan 19 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Gods, I'm so backlogged on email.... OoJan 19 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Twitter support for libraries snowballs worldwide | Books | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 127.45 KBJan 19 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #LibreOffice 3.3.0 RC3, Finally Uploaded To The LibreOffice !PPA http://goo.gl/MXLcWJan 19 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Just got some spam from Allan Key. Hoping to hear from Phillip Sedd tomorrow.Jan 19 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Zooming and rotating for video in HTML5 and CSS3 http://mzl.la/fA9LonJan 19 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox and the open web in the Philippines http://bit.ly/fHvMPbJan 19 10:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Zooming and rotating for video in HTML5 and CSS3 ✩         Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog   .::. Size~: 44.84 KBJan 19 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Perhaps it would be worthwhile adding dents here tooJan 19 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @evan the account http://identi.ca/techrights is a forger - one of the trolls who spread libel about meJan 19 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ozone: New Lubuntu 11.04 Proposed Theme http://bit.ly/fitiOZJan 19 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] LibreOffice 3.3.0 RC3, Finally Uploaded To The LibreOffice PPA http://bit.ly/efREdSJan 19 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Racine Schizowitless (techrights)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 16.45 KBJan 19 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Ozone: New !Lubuntu 11.04 Proposed Theme http://goo.gl/oSKbw #nattyJan 19 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Latest Examples of the Failure of the #USPTO , With Emphasis on Software Patents http://is.gd/LlaE2A #swpats #patent #maths #monopolyJan 19 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Patents Roundup: A Quick Look at #Europe http://is.gd/z2ppx3 #nz #eu #swpats #epo #edri #monopoly #injunctionJan 19 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jugsbunny elsevier reinstate journals to Hinari [pdf] http://bit.ly/gKb7zE >> excellent - shows that kicking up a fuss works...Jan 19 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Benjamin Orndorff From Microsoft/Gates and Ellis Represents the #CTPN Patents Cartel http://is.gd/AEOxKF #microsoft #swpats #novellJan 19 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Patents Roundup: Software Patent Opinions in the UK http://is.gd/s4M4Ct #swpatsJan 19 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rackspace's CEO on Open Source and #OpenStack - http://bit.ly/esM94Y how to make money by giving stuff away (again) #cloudcomputingJan 19 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Transparency is Never Enough: The Strange Case of #Australia and #OOXML - http://bit.ly/dYGKjc how did we miss this? (v @opensourcerer)Jan 19 10:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/61854447#notice-62538314Jan 19 10:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/62538314 https://identi.ca/notice/62538909Jan 19 10:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Karsten Wade (quaid)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 10:27:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz By reruns do you mean the repeat identical posts? / Cc: @opensourcewayJan 19 10:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 10:41:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @quaid @opensourceway  links to the same article multiple times (different days too) with different descriptions, unlike RSS feedsJan 19 10:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/27670468236410880Jan 19 10:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #OpenOffice.org & #LibreOffice Rel Candidates Duke It Out http://is.gd/1ktkU9 | Operating system agnostic—native #ODF supportJan 19 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Customs Boss Defends Internet #Censorship; Says More Is On The Way - http://bit.ly/hmRJBq things are getting worseJan 19 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No double standards: supporting #Google's push for #WebM - http://bit.ly/ha4Rly FSF weighs; I agree broadlyJan 19 10:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.73 KBJan 19 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Web Book Sprint - http://bit.ly/gTqqyC writing a free ebook in 5 days #booksprint #ebook #openwebJan 19 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Web #Browser Security User Interfaces: Hard to Get Right and Increasingly Inconsistent - http://bit.ly/e9n00s interesting & important pointsJan 19 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #London Leads the Way in Techno Wizardry - http://bit.ly/gc947u good gentle intro to the London Data Store #opendataJan 19 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Qt acceptance growing, next: collaboration process? - http://bit.ly/h0Hm62 thoughts on how to build on #Ubuntu's latest moveJan 19 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On #WebM again: freedom, quality, patents - http://bit.ly/hr5xcw excellent rebuttal of the #FUD that is already accumulatingJan 19 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source in #GSM Could Breed Mobile Mayhem - http://bit.ly/hdy820 hmm, if confirmed maybe used against #opensource?Jan 19 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] For those who could not get ogg/mp3 - the !techbytes downloads are fast again(had a lot of traffic recently, over 300,000 uncached hits/day)Jan 19 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. officials privately say WikiLeaks damage limited - http://reut.rs/fka7sa whoops... #wikileaksJan 19 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @techbytes shall we send a spam report about you?Jan 19 11:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/62540158Jan 19 11:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Karsten Wade (quaid)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 11:03:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @opensourceway is following a practice that I've seen proven to increase traffic (by alot); maybe best on Twitter only?Jan 19 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fingerprints Go the Distance - http://bit.ly/ewWo1b scanning fingers from *2 metres* distance - yikes #biometrics #privacyJan 19 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @nicoulas Fellowship elections to be part of FSFE's General Assembly are coming! Announce your candidacy before Jan 25th!! http://lin ...Jan 19 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Munich Open Government Day (MOGDy) [de] - http://bit.ly/hVJver and idea whose time has come #germany #opengovernmentJan 19 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb the account named "techrights" in identica is a forger whose name says it's a libellous stalker who hounded me. /cc @supportJan 19 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb @support no, @techbytes is not impersonating, the account techrights in identica is the one impersonatingJan 19 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Repeat to all those who write on my billboard (is it the right name?) on Facebook, I am NOT on #FB, your messages will not be read.Jan 19 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I was also explaining why downloads yesterday were so utterly slow, which is the issue you reported and I could reproduceJan 19 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz sorry my bad, I read the mention earlier and got the names mixed upJan 19 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] #thehindu uses picture of Milosch, Brita and me taken at #fossdotin but no mention of the FOSS.in event anywhere http://bit.ly/dQovbiJan 19 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @qu1j0t3 ♺ @deviatar #FBI Issues Death Threat in U.S. Citizen Interrogation: http://ur1.ca/2wzpo via @NewAmericanMag #tortureJan 19 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Australia #EPICFAIL - mandates OOXML, ECMA376 - NOT the ISO Standard, NOT ODF. Lockin complete. http://ur1.ca/2xm4zJan 19 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Via @glynmoody: http://bit.ly/hr5xcw excellent post by @cdaffara on WebM and h.264, it says all I have to say about it.Jan 19 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Australia - 0wn3d by Microsoft. http://www.itnews.com.au/News/245276,australia-mandates-microsofts-open-office-xml.aspxJan 19 11:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Firefox and the open web in the #Philippines - http://bit.ly/gCmJlV #Firefox still the leader, but #Chrome storming through; IE who?Jan 19 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BBC Online Chief Huggers Leaving For Intel In Cost Cuts - http://bit.ly/gh1xdb well, well, well... #bbcJan 19 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] /me hates E-mail with a passion again, setup error or filters make many messages vanish - just found out it's happening againJan 19 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fabsh The #F15 wallpaper will be based on this sketch: http://outl.ws/f4euUP !fedoradesignJan 19 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Fall of Wintel and the Rise of Armdroid http://is.gd/QdB6x9 !linux #arm #competitionJan 19 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer] "We were told (the impact of #WikiLeaks revelations) was embarrassing but not damaging," Oops. ... http://ur1.ca/2x0qxJan 19 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] v odd post from @tom_watson - http://bit.ly/f48vSJ if encryption can't be broken in 14 days, it can't in 28; the issue here is *liberty*Jan 19 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What would JFK have made of the Tories’ duplicitous weakness on 28 days detention? «  Labour Uncut .::. Size~: 31.62 KBJan 19 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] !Fedora folks who are coming to !FUDCon from remote places! Add your deetz to http://ur1.ca/2sycv so that you can plan rideshare n stuff!Jan 19 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @swadeshine I wonder how Amazon, Visa, & PayPal must be feeling now that learning their government lied to them about !WikiLeaks.Jan 19 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Conservatives Ruined the Economy and Now They're Blaming Liberalism http://is.gd/rFJbyL as predicted, because people who watch Fox=gullibleJan 19 11:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arrr! Pirates Take Up to $12 Billion Worth of Booty - http://bit.ly/fos9va that's *real* piracy, not the pretend, digital kindJan 19 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 85-Year-Old-Woman Arrested for Bank Protest -- 6 Revolts the Tea Party-Obsessed Corporate Media Overlooked http://is.gd/1CtgGj #bankingJan 19 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Companies Who Support #Censoring The Internet - http://bit.ly/eFHseN @mmasnick names and shames: boo, hiss....Jan 19 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Intellectual Property Bubble – The Next Danger To The World Economy? http://is.gd/42mpdl "These companies are buying up patents."Jan 19 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody The Companies Who Support #Censoring The Internet - http://bit.ly/eFHseN @mmasnick names and shames: boo, hiss....Jan 19 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz Conservatives Ruined the Economy and Now They're Blaming Liberalism http://is.gd/rFJbyL as predicted, because people wh ...Jan 19 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hunt's Local TV Plan Re-Invents The Wheel As A Square - http://bit.ly/h1a8Jk oh, what a surprise... #tv #iptvJan 19 11:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conservatives Ruined the Economy and Now They're Blaming Liberalism |  | AlterNet .::. Size~: 104.49 KBJan 19 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      Hunt’s Local TV Plan Re-Invents The Wheel As A Square                                              |  paidContent:UK  .::. Size~: 33.01 KBJan 19 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] E-mail has become furiously unreliable, no idea why businesses still stick with it. Better set up local comms servers.Jan 19 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Oh. You sent me E-mail about it? Weird, I didn't get it." #FamousLastWordsJan 19 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Blocajul SIUI – semnal de alarma cu privire la incapacitatea Ministerului Sanatatii http://is.gd/g1Z93y #romania #egovt #privacyJan 19 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Blocajul SIUI (Sistemul Informatic Unic Integrat)  – semnal de alarma cu privire la incapacitatea Ministerului Sanatatii de a garanta respectarea dreptului la viata privata : Blogul ActiveWatch .::. Size~: 24.41 KBJan 19 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police #DNA test plan to put off prostitutes' punters - http://bit.ly/eDUXRL "paying a woman for sex, your DNA was going to be taken"Jan 19 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I think it must be a copy n paste error, i just edited it, try it now.Jan 19 11:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police DNA test plan to put off prostitutes' punters • The Register .::. Size~: 22.3 KBJan 19 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @frankweyns: RT @jwildeboer: #Australia owned by #Microsoft. http://tinyurl.com/63fk4tjJan 19 11:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Next International Open Data Hack Day – initial thoughts - http://bit.ly/i4yi1f and yours requested #opendataJan 19 11:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Next International Open Data Hack Day – initial thoughts | eaves.ca .::. Size~: 28.9 KBJan 19 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cti97: GNOME 3 e făcut de la zero și se anunță a fi interesant (gnome3.org) http://t.co/SZ7eE99Jan 19 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @GadgetZoneRO: RT @TabletNews: Dual Screen Android Tablet to Debut on February 7, Courtesy of Sprint http://bit.ly/gb6KVSJan 19 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: The Companies Who Support #Censoring The Internet - http://bit.ly/eFHseN @mmasnick names and shames: boo, hiss....Jan 19 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3 - Made of Easy .::. Size~: 5.19 KBJan 19 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dual Screen Android Tablet to Debut on February 7, Courtesy of Sprint | Tablet News .::. Size~: 37.73 KBJan 19 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Companies Who Support Censoring The Internet | Techdirt .::. Size~: 227.27 KBJan 19 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Your Employer Can Read Your Work Emails, Even to Your Lawyer [Privacy] http://bit.ly/hn2W8RJan 19 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your Employer Can Read Your Work Emails, Even to Your Lawyer .::. Size~: 100.32 KBJan 19 12:02
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62541128Jan 19 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 11:19:55 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @toros Qt-based !Gwibber in action: http://is.gd/cmP4iW via @segphault !ubuntuJan 19 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Trying to install #Debian #Squeeze on my #EeePC while over-consuming Merlot. Think this may be a classic case of choose one or neither.Jan 19 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Australia mandates Microsoft's Open Office XML http://is.gd/x4Ol2w #odf #open #ooo #libreofficeJan 19 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Lithuania drops #CIA #torture site inquiry amid claims of official cover-up - http://bit.ly/hhimVi justice - who needs it? (v @Asher_Wolf)Jan 19 12:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reprieve—Lithuania drops CIA torture site inquiry amid claims of official cover-up .::. Size~: 15.22 KBJan 19 12:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62529699Jan 19 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 07:41:27 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @glynmoody #Facebook's 3rd Biggest Advertiser is a #Bing Affiliate #Scam - http://rww.to/fV8ypX wow, incredible story // #microsoft #bongJan 19 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. CC @th3k4ty "Mice get cancer, that's what mice do." — Steve Gibson, Security NowJan 19 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Stuxnet hackers were lamers says Nate Lawson https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/stuxnet-authors-made-several-basic-errors-011811Jan 19 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stuxnet Authors Made Several Basic Errors | threatpost .::. Size~: 80.14 KBJan 19 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RUSH. June 16. US Airways. Who's going with me? Time Machine Tour. http://ur1.ca/2xnk6Jan 19 12:18
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*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRJan 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @krisbuytaert applying for an Open Source job with a .doc document .... always a #failJan 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @pitanga: ♺ @quintalivre de janeiro na #cpbr4: exibição e debate do filme Patent Absurdity, quinta, às 17h30, no palco Software LivreJan 19 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gevent Joins the Software Freedom Conservancy http://is.gd/azp5Zx !fs !fsfJan 19 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Deutsche Bahn mal paradox. Wegen Verspätung bin ich evtl früher am Ziel.Jan 19 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gevent Joins the Software Freedom Conservancy - Software Freedom Conservancy .::. Size~: 4.83 KBJan 19 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nexenta Systems Joins Open Invention Network as a Licensee http://is.gd/iv3y9W #oin !linux #swpatsJan 19 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @claudeb: Romanian Minister of Defense Gabriel Oprea sounds just like Ceaușescu in December 1989. He's also pissing off the Army...Jan 19 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Making music in Linux and beyond http://is.gd/Wp4xq3 Linux sounds good...Jan 19 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cybercom Group Joins Linux Foundation | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 30.13 KBJan 19 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @chipromania: Tableta #PC Allview AllDro, compatibilă #3G: Prima tabletă dezvoltată de compania brașoveană Visual Fan http://bit.ly/ghHajyJan 19 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @legiinternet: Evaluarea directivei privind pastrarea datelor de trafic informational si consecintele sale http://is.gd/Ge5j9eJan 19 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Bacon and cheese roll time :P #yumJan 19 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two Microsoft or SCO boosters rave about the #CPTN patent racket of #Microsoft not being impeded http://is.gd/EX8Q6F #swpats #mobbyistsJan 19 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EC Couldn’t Care Less About the Novell Patent Deal | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 29.88 KBJan 19 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Debian vs #Ubuntu—My Personal Opinion and Experience With Both http://is.gd/IDgiFW "I choose Debian.what do you choose? Maybe it’s neither"Jan 19 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Own an Old Computer and Dislike Puppy? Meet MiniNo: http://is.gd/SFo2mB "GALPon MiniNo is a distro made in Spain."Jan 19 12:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian vs Ubuntu — My Personal Opinion and Experience With Both «  Garry Conn .::. Size~: 36.1 KBJan 19 12:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Esquina de un Migrante a Linux: Own an Old Computer and Dislike Puppy? Meet MiniNo: .::. Size~: 73.15 KBJan 19 12:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/27706793056534528Jan 19 12:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz: #Midori vs #Epiphany Review http://is.gd/5b7XeY less is the new more?|☛Epiphany's different than #Galeon http://ub0.cc/zR/wMJan 19 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Butterfly-Amazon Open-Source Saga Continues http://is.gd/Wg1l5U http://is.gd/CkIXyr #amazoff #knockoff but they call #wikileaks bad !fsJan 19 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vye #Jolibook review – best in class open source computing? http://is.gd/cQn1bu it looks like Happy Meal with a keyboard. #gnu #linuxJan 19 12:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Butterfly-Amazon Open-Source Saga Continues .::. Size~: 18.78 KBJan 19 12:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Open-Source Projects Are Getting Ripped On Amazon .::. Size~: 18.91 KBJan 19 12:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Backdoors in OpenBSD? Reply hazy, try again | ITworld .::. Size~: 94.15 KBJan 19 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Backdoors in OpenBSD? Reply hazy, try again http://is.gd/cQn1bu "this incident seems to be a story of missteps, and not maliciousness." #bsdJan 19 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Backdoors in OpenBSD? Reply hazy, try again | ITworld .::. Size~: 94.15 KBJan 19 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Gnome3 not due until April 2011, but if you want to try it now: http://live.gnome.org/Jhbuild !linuxJan 19 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Gnome3 website up and running ready for the April 2011 release: http://gnome3.org/ !linuxJan 19 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jhbuild - GNOME Live! .::. Size~: 27.75 KBJan 19 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3 - Made of Easy .::. Size~: 5.19 KBJan 19 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Facebook's 3rd Biggest Advertiser is a Bing Affiliate Scam http://ur1.ca/2weldJan 19 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Facebook's 3rd Biggest Advertiser is (Allegedly) a Bing Affiliate Scam (With Updates)  .::. Size~: 72.63 KBJan 19 13:07
oiaohmBig problem with Facebook 3rd biggest advertiser is that I cannot see who is behind it.Jan 19 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Create an Eye Catching Energy Drink Advertisement http://is.gd/QLaa8B GIMP powaJan 19 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Create an Eye Catching Energy Drink Advertisement | Blender Lighting | Blender Guru .::. Size~: 44.44 KBJan 19 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody did you see http://is.gd/N68SQxJan 19 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-01-19: People's Choice Award 2010 – opensource.com The OpenSource.Com website that Red Hat run i... http://wmk.me/g9mJjUJan 19 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DoctorMo's Blog » Blog Archive  » If it sounds mad .::. Size~: 15.08 KBJan 19 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2011-01-19 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 52.86 KBJan 19 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Main development phase of #linux #kernel 2.6.38 completed http://h-online.com/-1171565 #2638Jan 19 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main development phase of Linux kernel 2.6.38 completed - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.95 KBJan 19 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hello English OS! for Learning English. http://flossed.org/node/358 "it´s a operation [sic] system for learning english." I like...Jan 19 13:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hello English OS! for Learning English. | FlossEd.org .::. Size~: 28.41 KBJan 19 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SuperTux - A Super Mario Bros Clone http://is.gd/77H9OQ will Luigi be a gnu?Jan 19 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Squeeze 6.0 installation screen shots and review http://is.gd/YCEec3Jan 19 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] AT&T Case Asks High Court to Assign Privacy Rights to Companies http://ur1.ca/2xp2jJan 19 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SuperTux - A Super Mario Bros Clone | Linuxers .::. Size~: 51.28 KBJan 19 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian Squeeze 6.0 installation screen shots and review | Linux Operating System .::. Size~: 28.72 KBJan 19 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AT&T Case Asks High Court to Assign Privacy Rights to Companies - Businessweek .::. Size~: 59.68 KBJan 19 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Berlusconi’s lackeys want to ban our books. Let’s fight back! - http://bit.ly/gR3xMI from bad to worse (v @BiellaColeman) #italy #censorshipJan 19 13:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Berlusconi’s lackeys want to ban our books. They started from Venice. Let’s fight back! | Wu Ming  Foundation .::. Size~: 72.22 KBJan 19 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva and Mythware team up to offer a complete educational solution for OEMs and Schools http://is.gd/DGXF9b "....Mandriva #Linux 2010"Jan 19 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Actualité | Mandriva .::. Size~: 11.44 KBJan 19 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Freiherr-vom-Stein-Realschule http://ur1.ca/2xpaq #4sqJan 19 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just had some exercise with #KungFuLive on the #PS3... *tired*Jan 19 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] FYI, in case you do not follow @kernellog or @kernellog2: 2.6.38-rc1 is out: http://h-online.com/-1171565 (en) http://heise.de/-1170916 (de)Jan 19 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1000s of federal officials under lifelong gag order - http://bit.ly/dFy96k good luck with that, #canada (v @skdadl @)Asher_Wolf)Jan 19 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Freiherr-vom-Stein-Realschule       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia        .::. Size~: 21.65 KBJan 19 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main development phase of Linux kernel 2.6.38 completed - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.95 KBJan 19 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hauptentwicklungsphase des Linux-Kernel 2.6.38 abgeschlossen | heise open .::. Size~: 35.66 KBJan 19 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thousands of federal officials under lifelong gag order, records show - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 90.14 KBJan 19 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @toros gnome3.org is live! http://goo.gl/7RFxt !gnomeJan 19 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Abandoned Knol - http://bit.ly/gKvJ7o at least Google has gained some knowledge - about failure (v @anildash) #knol #googleJan 19 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @unhosted @rejon @mlinksva Unhosted started as my hobby. The goal is breaking monopolies using free software, so I would call it more ...Jan 19 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gnome3.org is live! | afaik .::. Size~: 26.23 KBJan 19 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Abandoned Knol  .::. Size~: 94.61 KBJan 19 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hotfile, 1000 Users and PayPal Named In Piracy Lawsuit - http://bit.ly/ihiQOo dangerous precedents here, perhaps #paypalJan 19 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #ACSLaw quietly collects #filesharing fines via another company | PC Pro http://ping.fm/k8NhYJan 19 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Hotfile, 1000 Users and PayPal Named In Piracy Lawsuit | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 104.35 KBJan 19 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACS Law quietly collects file-sharing fines | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 45.25 KBJan 19 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! "Ah! They work in the same way as the Twitter business plan." ROFL.Comedy gold from @uupc. :DJan 19 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Abandoned Knol - http://bit.ly/gKvJ7o at least Google has gained some knowledge - about failure (v @anildash) #knol #googleJan 19 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: 1000s of federal officials under lifelong gag order http://bit.ly/dFy96k good luck with that, #canada (v @skdadl @)Asher_Wolf)Jan 19 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Berlusconi’s lackeys want to ban our books. Let’s fight back! - http://bit.ly/gR3xMI from bad to worse ... #italy #censorshipJan 19 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Debian Squeeze 6.0 installation screen shots and review http://is.gd/YCEec3Jan 19 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Abandoned Knol  .::. Size~: 94.61 KBJan 19 13:44
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Berlusconi’s lackeys want to ban our books. They started from Venice. Let’s fight back! | Wu Ming  Foundation .::. Size~: 72.22 KBJan 19 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian Squeeze 6.0 installation screen shots and review | Linux Operating System .::. Size~: 28.72 KBJan 19 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hoist by my own petard: How to reduce your impact with restrictive licences - http://bit.ly/h03dN8 what *not* to do (especially by accident)Jan 19 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: !Debian vs #Ubuntu—My Personal Opinion and Experience With Both http://is.gd/IDgiFW "I choose Debian.what do you choose?...Jan 19 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Science in the Open  » Blog Archive   » Hoist by my own petard: How to reduce your impact with restrictive licences .::. Size~: 39.72 KBJan 19 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian vs Ubuntu — My Personal Opinion and Experience With Both «  Garry Conn .::. Size~: 36.1 KBJan 19 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OMG! SUSE! • by rtyler: Surfing securely on !openSUSE http://ping.fm/x1r9PJan 19 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could Nokia's Miracle Be Microsoft? - http://bit.ly/dT2hik or even: could #Nokia's *buyer* be #Microsoft?Jan 19 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #JS #games: "List of JS Game Engines (community effort)" http://ur1.ca/2xpnt / */ https://github.com/bebraw/jswiki/wiki/Jan 19 13:47
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Could Nokia’s Miracle Be Microsoft? | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 93.36 KBJan 19 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canadian TSA's Non-Apology Apology To 82-Year-Old Woman - http://bit.ly/ebldmk oh, really classy #canada #securitytheatreJan 19 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian TSA's Non-Apology Apology To 82-Year-Old Woman | Techdirt .::. Size~: 39.19 KBJan 19 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Could somebody give me an example on how to make a diskdump of a virtual qemu system with guestfish !Linux !Fedora !GNUJan 19 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There are signs that Swiss banking is changing: freezing assets of al-Abidine Ben Ali and Laurent Gbagbo apparently http://goo.gl/tSeu1Jan 19 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM http://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webmJan 19 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Switzerland freezes assets of Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali and Laurent Gbagbo | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 85.22 KBJan 19 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.73 KBJan 19 13:55
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lightpriest_http://www.groupon.com/deals/microsoft-oakbrook?c=dnb&p=1 > Only 40 sold? :)Jan 19 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Store Oakbrook Deal of the Day | Groupon Chicago .::. Size~: 145.55 KBJan 19 13:56
*gnufreex (~quassel@79-101-134-55.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrightsJan 19 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HBase: Shops swap MySQL for open source Google mimic - http://bit.ly/i4o1em interesting trend #hbase #mysqlJan 19 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Some #QT apps mr #Canonical should integrate in Ubuntu Natty+1 #amarok #k3b #basket #digikam - http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568Jan 19 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HBase: Shops swap MySQL for open source Google mimic • The Register .::. Size~: 25.61 KBJan 19 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » Qt apps on Ubuntu .::. Size~: 97.42 KBJan 19 14:00
gnufreex\oJan 19 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Tron: An open source legacy | http://bit.ly/eERLLY #collaboration #sharing #freedomJan 19 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vatican warned Irish bishops not to report abuse - http://yhoo.it/f6vStW it would be better if the entire Catholic church resigned *now*Jan 19 14:07
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gnufreexShuttleworthless finaly did something right. Added Qt. But that is only for his proprietary Unity. So worthless again.Jan 19 14:07
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MinceR:>Jan 19 14:08
oiaohmgnufreex: Really if you had read his post recently he wants to let more QT applications in.Jan 19 14:09
oiaohmBut he also wants to link qt to gnome dconfJan 19 14:09
gnufreexYeah, I say that is good thing.Jan 19 14:09
gnufreexBut it won't get upstreamJan 19 14:09
gnufreexSo it is only for buntuJan 19 14:09
oiaohmYes because its the wrong way.Jan 19 14:09
oiaohmI wish someone will take the issue as it should be through the freedesktop.org process.Jan 19 14:10
gnufreexIt should instead see to add Qt support in GObjectJan 19 14:10
gnufreexBut that is hardJan 19 14:10
oiaohm?Jan 19 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tron: An open source legacy - http://bit.ly/ehZOQX yup - and don't miss the Ubuntu logo used in a rather surprising location... #tronJan 19 14:10
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gnufreexI meant enable using Qt with C apps.Jan 19 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: #Tron: An open source legacy - http://bit.ly/ehZOQX yup - and don't miss the Ubuntu logo used in a rather surprising location..Jan 19 14:12
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gnufreexThrough GObject framework. Somebody tried that already. But it is damn hard.Jan 19 14:12
oiaohmQt from C never going to fly.Jan 19 14:13
oiaohmAnd I do mean never.Jan 19 14:13
oiaohmQt calling GObject and wraping them into QT structs does fly.Jan 19 14:13
gnufreexThere is SMOKE project by Nokia.Jan 19 14:13
gnufreexBut it doesn't exactly flyJan 19 14:13
MinceRwhy are people so obsessed with coding gui apps in c?Jan 19 14:14
oiaohmhttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/SmokeJan 19 14:14
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oiaohmSmoke coded for C++ gnufreexJan 19 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Conservative tech policy goal: ramp up IP enforcement - http://bit.ly/gPFQtH because that's worked so well in the pastJan 19 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will EU Parliament Legal Affairs Committee tomorrow ask the legal service whether #ACTA complies with the Treaties? - http://bit.ly/hvjPaiJan 19 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #hardware: Can we buy something like this ( #PLUG computer) in Portugal? Where? If not what's the best place online? http://ur1.ca/2xq9tJan 19 14:15
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gnufreexHm... I mixed up something then... somebody told me it is a wraper for writting C with Qt.Jan 19 14:16
gnufreexForget it than.Jan 19 14:16
gnufreexI know that Qt is made ground up for C++Jan 19 14:16
gnufreexBut I don't know C++ and I am lazy to learn it.Jan 19 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why the hell do Social Magazines need a Business Model? RSS readers don't http://ping.fm/Lp3O7Jan 19 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @p2pnet French photographer ‘murdered’ in #Tunisia. Point blank range http://www.p2pnet.net/story/47923 < sounds like murder to me tooJan 19 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Will EU Parliament Legal Affairs Committee tomorrow ask the legal service whether #ACTA complies with the Treaties? - http ...Jan 19 14:19
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MinceRwould an inferior object system coded on top of C be easier to learn? :>Jan 19 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Asleep and Awake - http://bit.ly/hwMXvq perceptive post about #Kindle's advantages; I still won't buy oneJan 19 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] whoops - last link via @monkchipsJan 19 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Really starting to love using 'c' to quickly look at the context of a string of dents. !identicurseJan 19 14:20
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/62548441Jan 19 14:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Norbert Evenich (evenorbert)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 13:34:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And there is a 3D version of it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/supertux-3d/ (created with Blender I think)Jan 19 14:22
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gnufreexMinceR: good point :>Jan 19 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple COO Calls Android Tablet a “Bizarre Product” - http://on.mash.to/f2p37L yeah, right - just like Android phones, no?Jan 19 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @wordrebel Great post -- “@laurelrusswurm: New blog post: "censorship and children" ur1.ca/2x9b8 << :DJan 19 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody No #Kindle for me either; I wouldn't ever consider trusting my library to a device that anyone else controls #NoKindle4MeJan 19 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/1/2011: Cybercom Enters Linux Foundation, Qt in Canonical http://is.gd/LeVGHW !techrightsJan 19 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Why did "identica.com" send me to http://www.identica.co.uk/ ? !identica #wtfJan 19 14:25
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oiaohmhttp://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection/GObjectConsume  gnufreex thing is even gnome developers are heading down the Qt friendly path.Jan 19 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @trashbird1240 We're identi.ca, not identica.com.Jan 19 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Deciphering the jibber jabber: getting started with your own self-hosted #XMPP server http://goo.gl/JjL70Jan 19 14:30
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gnufreexoiaohm: if Qt apps are easy to integrate in GNOME, that is going to be last nail in Mono coffin.Jan 19 14:32
gnufreex:-)Jan 19 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A critical security bug in tarsnap http://lwn.net/Articles/423690/rssJan 19 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh dear... http://vivantleakers.org/ has been busy. WTF there are a bunch of executebradley domain names? I am stunned.Jan 19 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A critical security bug in tarsnap [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.16 KBJan 19 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android doesn't have to innovate, as long as it democratises what's already there, it's done more than enoughJan 19 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What kind of a world wants to LITERALLY kill the messenger? Bradley Manning has NOT been convicted of *ANYTHING* #freebradleyJan 19 14:35
oiaohmgnufreex: already some of the edge mono applications are starting to bit rot.Jan 19 14:37
oiaohmbanshee is going to be the hard one to take out.Jan 19 14:38
gnufreexuh.. bit rot? You mean nobody develops themJan 19 14:38
gnufreex?Jan 19 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Damm 100GB takes a long time to dump with !dd to a USB diskJan 19 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] This is disturbing: there's multiple library usage research projects going on at !uncJan 19 14:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62548055Jan 19 14:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 13:26:46 UTC - Identi.ca: #Mandriva and Mythware team up to offer a complete educational solution for OEMs and Schools http://is.gd/DGXF9b "....Mandriva #Linux 2010"Jan 19 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Burger King http://ur1.ca/2xqwd #4sqJan 19 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just had about half hour of no identica thanks to stupid Spanish internet service. ipcom.comunitel.net bad DNS and shit servers and routersJan 19 14:42
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gnufreexoiaohm: How do you mean bashee hard to take out? There are few replacements already. Clementine (QT) Rythmbox(GTK)...Jan 19 14:42
gnufreexAlsoe ExaileJan 19 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] twitter spam accounts rather give it away when three with similar names, follower levels and content all start following you at once...Jan 19 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Irish whiskEy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_whiskey :)Jan 19 14:43
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oiaohmgnufreex:  Bashee has a lot of hard pushers behind it.Jan 19 14:45
oiaohmWith the bit rot.Jan 19 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I just took a library survey where they asked "If your main science library closed, how would it affect you?" !uncJan 19 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @evan: I swear that in the past I've used identica.com and gotten !identica #cognitive_dissonanceJan 19 14:45
oiaohmhttp://handbrake.fr/ is a classic example of a mono program bit rotting.Jan 19 14:45
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oiaohmA long time ago it had broad features targeting stacks of different devies.Jan 19 14:46
oiaohmToday its basically 100 percent i<device> focused.Jan 19 14:46
oiaohmWhere have the developers gone.Jan 19 14:46
oiaohmI would supect here http://www.transcoder.org/Jan 19 14:47
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oiaohmThat is only one of many on the edge of the mono world.  gnufreexJan 19 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @trashbird1240 Identica.com belongs to a branding company, uninterested in selling the domain to StatusNet.Jan 19 14:49
gnufreexI had no idea tha Handbrake is MonoJan 19 14:49
gnufreexAnd it wasn't until recently I thihnk. I used to use Handbrake, it was Objective C back thenJan 19 14:50
gnufreexAnd CJan 19 14:50
gnufreexIs transcode Mono too?Jan 19 14:52
gnufreexBanshee is probably goint that path too.Jan 19 14:54
gnufreexI mean iDevicesJan 19 14:54
gnufreexSince VLC left app storeJan 19 14:54
gnufreexAnd Banshee is MIT licensedJan 19 14:54
gnufreexBut I don't get who is going to transcode videos with Handbrake on iPhone? That is crazy.Jan 19 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HBase: Shops swap MySQL for open source Google mimic (The Register): http://bit.ly/hErCx2Jan 19 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wales’ carrier bag charge becomes law - http://bit.ly/exVol4 "will see shoppers paying 5p per single use carrier bag" (v @RobertAndrews)Jan 19 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lutris - The universal gaming platform for !linux - posted by @alexandro82 http://www.lutris.net/Jan 19 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Can one tweet change the world? @plugusin tells you his story | http://bit.ly/hMBpq5Jan 19 15:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: One tweet *can* change the world | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.68 KBJan 19 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] moJan 19 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A manifesto for the simple scribe – my 25 commandments for #journalists - http://bit.ly/hs6Ttq good advice, nicely done (v @rupertg)Jan 19 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  A manifesto for the simple scribe – my 25 commandments for journalists | Tim Radford | Science | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 143.21 KBJan 19 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RightNow acquires natural language search firm Q-Go (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/g7daedJan 19 15:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh @jargon john localhost = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/du gives john passwordless su. Not very safe, but useful.Jan 19 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 Most Alien like Insects on Earth | Wonders-World.com http://ping.fm/Y9N7bJan 19 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Official Speaks Untruths About Torrent-Finder Domain Seizure - http://bit.ly/hK9BIG ohJan 19 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FFmpeg turmoil http://lwn.net/Articles/423702/rssJan 19 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Release the Text” Campaign Demands End to Secrecy in Trade Talks - http://bit.ly/fxk7vP don't let #ACTA happen again (v @publicknowledge)Jan 19 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: A manifesto for the simple scribe – my 25 commandments for #journalists - http://bit.ly/hs6Ttq (v @rupertg)Jan 19 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: A manifesto for the simple scribe – my 25 commandments for #journalists - http://bit.ly/hs6Ttq (v @rupertg)Jan 19 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Learned a new word: "piquancy" (I knew "piquant"). Don't believe there is an equivalent in ITA ("piccantezza"?)Jan 19 15:38
MinceRit seems to me that the survival of mono depends on different factorsJan 19 15:39
MinceRnot whether Qt is usable in GNOME appsJan 19 15:39
MinceRbut rather, how important programmers think their investment in learning mono isJan 19 15:40
MinceRand how much the monomaniacs are willing to spend on advertising itJan 19 15:40
MinceRand otherwise promoting itJan 19 15:40
gnufreexYes, but monomaniacs like to claim that they have best apps and Mono integrates in GnOME better than Qt so they don't count Qt apps. If Qt support is better, there are more competition against Mono.Jan 19 15:42
MinceRthere already was superior competition against mono, in the form of c, c++/gtkmm and valaJan 19 15:43
MinceRand pygtk, etc.Jan 19 15:43
gnufreexYeah, but more nonMONO apps is always wellcome.Jan 19 15:43
gnufreexI meant in GNOMEJan 19 15:43
MinceRsureJan 19 15:43
MinceRi'm just unsure if we can expect this to break the promotion of monoJan 19 15:44
gnufreexThere was holly war between GNOME and KDE, but it is not holly anymore since both are Free now. And it shouldn't be war anymore.Jan 19 15:44
gnufreexNow those two should unite against Mono.Jan 19 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !debian 6.0 Squeeze to be released on February 5/6th !linux http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/01/msg00003.htmlJan 19 15:45
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gnufreexIt it will be interesting to see who will throw flames against QT in GNOMEJan 19 15:45
MinceR:>Jan 19 15:45
gnufreexI bet it will be Mono crowdJan 19 15:45
gnufreexThey would try to awake old warJan 19 15:46
gnufreexTo turn down heat from them.Jan 19 15:46
gnufreexto KDEJan 19 15:46
gnufreexor NokiaJan 19 15:46
gnufreexDistraction play. etcJan 19 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chase fucked 4000 active soldiers they overcharged mortgages on, and fucked 14 they erroneously foreclosed on http://ur1.ca/2xseeJan 19 15:47
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MinceRbbl, going homeJan 19 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh look, it's whinge at Fab in email day again. OoJan 19 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @richslxh: #debian 6.0 Squeeze to be released on Feb 5/6th #linux http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/01/msg00003.htmlJan 19 15:55
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gnufreexhahaha http://identi.ca/notice/62352817Jan 19 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Babak Moqimi (bmoqimi)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-11 19:54:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Linux Sex: date;unzip;strip;touch;grep;finger;mount;fsck;more;less;more;less;umount;sleepJan 19 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #FFmpeg turmoil - http://bit.ly/iemrjA exciting: "momentum had soared way past critical mass and turned into a tidal wave of revolution"Jan 19 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: For the sake of those who protect rights, every person should demand privacy as though s/he was "subversive"Jan 19 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Zynga Becoming A #Trademark Bully: Threatens Blingville For Daring To Use 'ville' - http://bit.ly/e9mZIv here we go again...Jan 19 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @graziano: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM: http://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webmJan 19 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle Quarterly Patch Process Raises Concerns (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/giZ4U9Jan 19 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Vote for the opensource.com contributor of the year: - http://ow.ly/3FildJan 19 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.94 KBJan 19 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] LCA 2011 is Happening as Planned http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/lca-2011-is-happening/Jan 19 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jwildeboer: Australia EPICFAIL - mandates OOXML, ECMA376 - NOT the ISO Standard, NOT ODF. Lockin complete. http://ur1.ca/2xm4zJan 19 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM http://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webmJan 19 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Grrr! i hate slow web/download servers! brings back bad memories of when i had dial up. :|Jan 19 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mairin: #fedoradesign meeting minutes & summary for yesterday http://ur1.ca/2xt1tJan 19 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @amandapalmer: I FUCKING LOVED YOU SO MUCH. Next time, we do a concert in you. RT @monamuseum did you love me?Jan 19 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parliament, data and eDemocracy: A big step forward - http://bit.ly/dPwBN9 "to make the legislative process more transparent" #uk #xmlJan 19 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who is profiting from open source? - http://bit.ly/eqIOnP "consider this an open invitation for open source-related vendors"Jan 19 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer Australia - 0wn3d by Microsoft. http://www.itnews.com.au/News/245276,australia-mandates-microsofts-open-office-xml.aspxJan 19 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] World's largest med student org joins @R2RC coalition; student voice for Open Access grows to nearly 7 million http://bit.ly/eLDb2nJan 19 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer #Australia #EPICFAIL - mandates OOXML, ECMA376 - NOT the ISO Standard, NOT ODF. Lockin complete. http://ur1.ca/2xm4zJan 19 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] come *on*, #FireBug, *please* let me configure the appearance! I got white system fonts and I can't see anthing in your console.Jan 19 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @hackerspacepl: Attention! Hackerspace meeting: Thursday (20.01) http://podmosteczkiem.pl/ start 6pm. See you there! http://hackerspace.plJan 19 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] FSF Joins Google in Fight for Open Video on the Web http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/fsf-joins-google-open-video/Jan 19 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: FSF Joins Google in Fight for Open Video on the Web http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/fsf-joins-google-open-video/Jan 19 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Muse - Assassin, oh yeah ;)Jan 19 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] TIL that !vim isnt actually hard to learn, it's just hard to get used to the fact that it's powerful.Jan 19 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet again the moral authority of the Catholic Church in full effect http://bbc.in/ieLFdK & they wonder why less and less people listenJan 19 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Berlin, founding event of RESPUBLICA. Stay tuned!Jan 19 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] HTML5 Gets Logo, is Still Missing Meaning http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/html5-logo-missing-meaning/Jan 19 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @schestowitz I spoke with a receptionist and they had never heard of Linux. We'll see what happens when I call again today.Jan 19 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Josh Lerner & Mark Schankerman Paid by #Microsoft for Open Source Spin (and Alexis de Tocqueville Institution Recalled) http://is.gd/wkSqSAJan 19 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italian regulator asks for copyright reform after Google settlement - http://bit.ly/gR6Inj strange how publishers still want to be searchedJan 19 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jezra tell her to FLOSSJan 19 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The last of a species, caught on film - http://bit.ly/h5NPFD what a desperately melancholy sight #thylacineJan 19 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fam: Interesantes videos sobre el !SoftwareLibre y La Matrix http://ur1.ca/2xrpyJan 19 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: @maloki why would anyone even say there are 'stupid questions"? To hoard knowledge... discourage competition, elitismJan 19 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] It's a small world, and getting smaller. Keep stumbling on the same people any new matter I take.Jan 19 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @schestowitz well played sir, well playedJan 19 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Fabs wil have to become non-proprietary- The Inquirer http://bit.ly/gRJEjPJan 19 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lerner & Schankerman Paid by #Microsoft for #OpenSource Spin (and Alexis de Tocqueville Institution Recalled) http://is.gd/wkSqSA #spin #prJan 19 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Canonical is Sponsoring Better Integration of Qt into the Gnome Desktop http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/canonical-sponsoring-qt-itegration/Jan 19 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Key House Committee Hires Three More Former Lobbyists - http://bit.ly/i5IU3P this. is. insane. #lobbying #usJan 19 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Canonical is Sponsoring Better Integration of Qt into Gnome http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/canonical-sponsoring-qt-itegration/Jan 19 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Canonical is Sponsoring Better Integration of Qt into Gnome http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/canonical-sponsoring-qt-itegration/Jan 19 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fontana: Ask not what free software can do for you; ask what you can do for free software!Jan 19 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Latvian Government Departments “Must Accept Documents in ODF” http://is.gd/Y3ezcI #Latvia #opendocumentJan 19 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Latvia Government Departments “Must Accept Documents in ODF” http://is.gd/Y3ezcI #odf #euJan 19 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh joy! The Access Point to the Court shows "internal server error". !FFS Client has an alternative AP, but asked me to stay on this oneJan 19 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @creativecommons: World's largest med student org joins @R2RC coalition; student voice for Open Access near 7 million http://bit.ly/eLDb2nJan 19 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Yes, just after @methoddan has finished doing FLOSS Weekly.Jan 19 17:09
gnufreexDoes Miguel De Icaza live on Antarctic? This picture says so http://people.gnome.org/~jdub/random/GnomeWorldWideHuge.jpgJan 19 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Software Freedom Conservancy Now 25 Projects Strong http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/software-freedom-conservancy-now-25-projects-strong/Jan 19 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Read about !freesoftware activities in Greece http://ur1.ca/2xume !fsfeJan 19 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why !Techrights Needs Your Help http://is.gd/o74I5o #wiki #ircJan 19 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Lack of time motivates greater levels of crowdsourcing in !Techrights http://is.gd/o74I5o please help us write/run the siteJan 19 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Lustig - fixmystreet.com is wohl so ne Art Unser Dorf soll schöner werden 2.0 :-)Jan 19 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh sweet, something to listen to while digesting lunch and complaining about drupalJan 19 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra :)Jan 19 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching #SecurityNow while waiting for @methoddan to come on. #TWiTJan 19 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I've finally successfully used fold and fold-right! !schemeJan 19 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Facebook Reverts Latest Privacy Misstep http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/facebook-reverts-privacy-misstep/Jan 19 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nice to see that #TWiT has technical issues sometimes too... ;)Jan 19 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Construction Of Walkie-Talkie Tower Begins - http://bit.ly/h7w5Kb I know it's bad of me, but I really like these new buildings in #LondonJan 19 17:35
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_Goblinbonjour allJan 19 17:36
_Goblinwhats going on in identi.ca?Jan 19 17:36
_Goblin"@techbytes" - Isn't that our account?Jan 19 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching http://live.twit.tv and waiting for @methoddan to come on for FLOSS Weekly.Jan 19 17:44
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MinceRi don't think i trust those people.Jan 19 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching FLOSS Weekly live. Go @merlyn & @methoddan! :)Jan 19 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Adventures in copyright | http://bit.ly/hsvFhr #creativecommons #oer #copyleft #openeduJan 19 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "Goldman Sachs bankers to receive $15.3bn in pay and bonuses" http://is.gd/6RBRdIJan 19 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @jwildeboer I may still have a jaz sat up in a closet.Jan 19 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @milad: "When companies organize to design products to restrict us, we have to organize to defeat them" —Richard StallmanJan 19 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @fabricapo: RT @caostheory Funambol has introduced Funambol v9. http://bit.ly/ejtv0OJan 19 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm AT least the #pirates already have the #ipatch ...Jan 19 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @dfscot: RT @techmeerkat: Social Media and Lawyers latest blog by @techmeerkat http://bit.ly/gLup8s #socialmedia #law #lawyersJan 19 18:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #censorship ♺ @p2pnet: Russian WikiLeaks site blocked. Putin's Palace http://www.p2pnet.net/story/47915Jan 19 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @linuxquestions: A Year After Oracle’s Acquisition of Sun: The Open Source Projects http://bit.ly/ht054W <- nice overviewJan 19 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #quotes♺@milad: "When companies organize to design products to restrict us, we have to organize to defeat them" Richard Stallman !fsf !gnuJan 19 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz @laurelrusswurm AT least the #pirates already have the #ipatch ...Jan 19 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz that's the best pun I've seen in ages. thx!Jan 19 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just updated the !lo !minecraft server to the latest version.Jan 19 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Silicon quantum computer a possibility : (Nature): http://bit.ly/ePR7vOJan 19 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FUNNY: ""Gays too precious to risk in combat"" http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1005.htmlJan 19 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @carwinb http://ur1.ca/2xw8v<--- Owner of kill sarahpalindotcom (sourced from his HuffPo comment) << this one is prettier :D lolJan 19 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozilla: Threads and Workers for Add-ons in Firefox 4 http://bit.ly/glaCHBJan 19 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomaniaBizNews: Descoperire: calatoria in timp - http://blitzclick.ro/hVT6Jan 19 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ScotFinnie: Why some companies are ditching their spreadsheets http://cwrld.us/eljyqC #microsoft #excelJan 19 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Gnome 3 Gets a Website http://lxnews.org/2011/01/19/gnome-3-gets-a-website/Jan 19 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Some ppl don't get that dents/tweets are != email & forum posts. That's annoying when brings to ignore grammar & proper spelling.!Jan 19 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bucureştenii trebuie să decidă http://is.gd/K9BSrR #romaniaJan 19 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A Year After: The Open Source Projects http://is.gd/jvtWcL #oracle #sunJan 19 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bucureştenii trebuie să decidă  «  Alina Gorghiu Blog .::. Size~: 49.93 KBJan 19 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: How to install Intel 82852/855GM drivers in Ubuntu Using PPA http://bit.ly/fEAkWsJan 19 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: Comunitatea Debian Linux Romania http://bit.ly/eJ2gWTJan 19 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux 2.6.38 eliminates last main global lock, improving performance http://is.gd/Ripxf8 #gnu #linuxJan 19 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/423742/rssJan 19 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Funny: @maloki said: "That you can not use MSN Messenger Client on !Linux. You can use other clients to access MSNP"Jan 19 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Then @pmctechblog disagreed, "You ARE using MSN Messenger....is the service...you are accessing through... other programs." <actually agreedJan 19 19:04
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hazzyDid Fedora change their release schedule to match Ubuntu's?Jan 19 19:05
hazzyWell, similar to Ubuntu's, at leastJan 19 19:05
gnufreexhazzy Fedora goes every six months, similar to ubuntu. But it is not fixed, and they delay if necesary.Jan 19 19:09
schestowitz_Goblin: 0/Jan 19 19:09
hazzyAh, I hadn't noticed that previouslyJan 19 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Extras" was vicious, but brilliant. My favorite will always be the Orlando Bloom segment.Jan 19 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] But I have to get back to formatting my novel. Break over. ta! ;DJan 19 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: RT @novitro: Pe blog: Notiuni de baza despre criptografia cu chei publice http://bit.ly/e2ZAObJan 19 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Android Virtualization: It's Time http://t.co/FCe6HBR Virtualize? Android? Why not?Jan 19 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The Linux Programming Interface http://lwn.net/Articles/423417/rssJan 19 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Max Mosley Says Newspapers Must Alert Famous People Before Writing Stories About Them - http://bit.ly/hkrb2V bonkersJan 19 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The World's Top 10 Gov 2.0 Initiatives - http://bit.ly/hmMpku you'll never guess what number 1 is (well, I didn't)Jan 19 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Truth Behind HTML5′s New Logo Fiasco - http://bit.ly/fOjD8Y the Untold Story... #html5Jan 19 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Deal closes in 17 hours: $20 Amazon GC for $10 http://ur1.ca/2ur39Jan 19 19:30
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gnufreexhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/216931/details_emerge_of_patents_novell_is_selling_to_microsoft.htmlJan 19 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How the War on #Piracy Will Change in 2011 - http://on.mash.to/dYermx strangely unbalanced piece for #mashableJan 19 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Google Strikes Again - Drops H.264 Support From Chrome - http://bit.ly/hHh6pP #WebM #youtube #googleJan 19 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA to ICANN: Music TLDs Better be #Piracy Free - http://bit.ly/hCTHXF #RIAA wants even more police for its failed business modelsJan 19 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] New page about Twitter and Identi.ca http://is.gd/jCLTx0 to remove confusion about which official accounts existJan 19 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] witter and Identi.ca http://is.gd/jCLTx0 to remove confusion about which official accounts existJan 19 19:40
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schestowitzgnufreex: yeah, I saw the CPTN articlweJan 19 19:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62562730Jan 19 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 19:36:47 UTC - Identi.ca: I've just created a New page about Twitter and Identi.ca accts. http://is.gd/jCLTx0 to remove confusion about which official accounts existJan 19 19:41
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schestowitzgnufreex: I'll get around to it in a momentJan 19 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've just created a New page about Twitter and Identi.ca accts. http://is.gd/jCLTx0 to remove confusion about which official accounts existJan 19 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pix of Putin's Palace (allegedly) - http://bit.ly/gWv3Xo from the #Russian version of #wikileaksJan 19 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux Plumbers' Conference 2011: Call for Tracks http://lwn.net/Articles/423450/rssJan 19 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Single point of failure - http://bit.ly/hq8tIT "Monopoly isn’t a goal for #Wikipedia, it’s something that just happened."Jan 19 19:44
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gnufreexschestowitz: you didn't tell people to report fakers, and how to report it (ie, IRC, or comment on article). I think that is entire purpose. Also, maybe link that article on front page, else not many people will see it.Jan 19 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh if by "upstream" you mean "we'll release it as a third party library when it's done", then yes. That's how canonical worksJan 19 19:47
schestowitzgnufreex: OK, good pointJan 19 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Can Be Steered With #Microsoft Money http://is.gd/6ozR1j #novell #suseJan 19 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #SUSE Can Be Steered With #Microsoft Money http://is.gd/6ozR1j #novell #attachmft #mono #bylawsJan 19 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The first set of FOSDEM interviews http://lwn.net/Articles/423778/rssJan 19 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sen Al Franken: Comcast trying to whack Netflix (Ars): http://bit.ly/f8q6rQ (Me:Is this why my Netflix streaming is pixelated thru Comcast?)Jan 19 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 136 dents!Jan 19 20:05
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sebsebseb_Goblin:  _goblin_netbook hiJan 19 20:08
sebsebsebnisshh: hiJan 19 20:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: I reckon _Goblin ponders recording tonight? :-)Jan 19 20:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: Heh Jorge Castro wasn't happy with me again it seemsJan 19 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: Armor http://j.mp/g5JT5v via @AddToAnyJan 19 20:17
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_goblin_netbookhiJan 19 20:19
_goblin_netbookIve had a hell of a weekJan 19 20:20
_goblin_netbookso busyJan 19 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Paul Szynol guest posts insightful essay on secondary liability and innovation https://eff.org/r.4wUJan 19 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @MeaganTrush: Top 5 of the day: http://ow.ly/3GzFZ Any good suggestions for additions? #cndpoliJan 19 20:20
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gnufreexOpenSUSE folks kicked out somebody from their "community" http://lwn.net/Articles/423142/#CommentsJan 19 20:21
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gnufreexNo much specifics,Jan 19 20:21
gnufreexit would be funny to find out if it was because that guy smelled the cofee and asked Novell folks the hard questions.Jan 19 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 420 tser : The A-niah attempt to save me. http://bit.ly/gjm6QR #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitJan 19 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @mgeist: RT @peternowak: Usage-based billing latest example of why Canada isn't an internet leader like Sweden http://bit.ly/fJprZfJan 19 20:24
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_Goblinright....Jan 19 20:28
_Goblinback upstairs for a bitJan 19 20:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: uhmm did you miss it on identica?Jan 19 20:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: ThistleWeb made it clear there, that he has quite TechbytesJan 19 20:29
sebsebsebin the group he made it clearJan 19 20:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: going back to the convo we had last timeJan 19 20:30
_Goblinreally?Jan 19 20:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: yesJan 19 20:30
_GoblinGordon quit Techbytes?Jan 19 20:30
sebsebsebyesJan 19 20:30
sebsebsebaccording to the techbytes group he hasJan 19 20:30
sebsebseband also, because of schestowitzJan 19 20:30
sebsebsebso I guess he has quit this channel as well :)Jan 19 20:30
_GoblinI think maybe you are reading old comments...Jan 19 20:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: and you were meant to have asked me how I annoyed someone at Canonical earlier :DJan 19 20:31
_Goblinas far as Im aware Gordon is still very much part of TBJan 19 20:32
sebsebseb_Goblin: the latest one about that, isn't that oldJan 19 20:32
_GoblinReally? which one are you looking at?Jan 19 20:32
sebsebseb_Goblin: well oldishJan 19 20:32
sebsebseb22 days ago now or whatever, I am not on it right nowJan 19 20:32
_GoblinHe did think of leaving, hes not now.Jan 19 20:32
sebsebseboh okJan 19 20:33
_Goblinbad timing on my part has meant Gordon hasnt been on the last few shows...Jan 19 20:33
_Goblinand it wasn't because of schestowitz , it was merely miscommunication and misinterpretation.Jan 19 20:34
_Goblinvery difficult to arrange this sort of thing remotely...Jan 19 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Soooo, gmail doesn't have an "i goofed" button to unblock mail heading there way. As a result I can't mail my dad until they feel I behave.Jan 19 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] That seems a little messed up imo. Every other service has a way to restore service, why not gmail??Jan 19 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Betting on Android! Shanda Announced RMB20Millions Funds for #Android Development - http://bit.ly/gzlOG7 many more to come #chinaJan 19 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Love Is Why Apple Needs Steve http://gizmo.do/eJw3QjJan 19 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese parenting - http://bit.ly/gOX6co the best summary piece I've read on *that* article by Amy ChuaJan 19 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Interesting admissions and revelations from an apparent lobby group which deals with #patents http://is.gd/uiC8JZ #swpats #deceptionJan 19 20:52
schestowitz[20:21] <gnufreex> OpenSUSE folks kicked out somebody from their "community" http://lwn.net/Articles/423142/#CommentsJan 19 20:52
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schestowitzYes, pascalJan 19 20:52
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schestowitzI wrote about itJan 19 20:52
gnufreexhm... about what?Jan 19 20:52
gnufreexI mean why they kicked him out?Jan 19 20:53
schestowitznobody knowsJan 19 20:53
schestowitzHe blogged about it, but it's vagueJan 19 20:53
gnufreexhave link?Jan 19 20:54
gnufreexI didn't see what you wrote about it...Jan 19 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Single-Name Social Media Handles Are Totems in the Tech World (WSJ): http://on.wsj.com/gC8xRRJan 19 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @klanger: !lo @fabsh Shit, I'm watching live LO 187 in via Android phone :DJan 19 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Microsoft Boosters Turn #ArsTechnica Into Fox Technica http://is.gd/S6j4xQ #webm #ogg #mpegla #swpats #googleJan 19 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Booster Peter Bright Turns #ArsTechnica Into Fox Technica http://is.gd/S6j4xQ #webm #ogg #mpegla #swpats #googleJan 19 21:00
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/01/16/cryptic-developments-opensuse-board/Jan 19 21:00
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gnufreexschestowitz : ThanksJan 19 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yochai Benkler on Wikipedia's 10th Anniversary - http://bit.ly/gBw20u excellent as ever: "a vision of practical utopia"Jan 19 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @xScited_Adrian: New reactor producing fuel from sunlight #science #alternativeenergy #solarenergy http://bit.ly/dPiohBJan 19 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @robconnolly: Wow, the new #gnome3 website looks awesome: http://gnome3.org/ !loJan 19 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] GNOME3 - Introducing the next generation GNOME desktop http://www.gnome3.orgJan 19 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Patents Win in the West, Then the Chinese Win http://is.gd/uOBzhp #china #patent #bubbleJan 19 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] If Patents Win in the West, Then China Wins http://is.gd/uOBzhp #china #patent #bubbleJan 19 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] £98: Reino Unido vai subsidiar PCs recondicionados e com Linux para inclusão digital http://bit.ly/eRb5tGJan 19 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] £ 98: UK will subsidize refurbished PCs with Linux for digital inclusion http://bit.ly/eRb5tGJan 19 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: p2pnet World Headlines: Jan 19, 2011. New secret UFO Wikileaks cable revealed http://www.p2pnet.net/story/47913Jan 19 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: The Truth Behind HTML5′s New Logo Fiasco - http://bit.ly/fOjD8Y the Untold Story... #html5Jan 19 21:44
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DaemonFCcubezzz, Canada has declared war on Dire StraitsJan 19 22:00
DaemonFC:PJan 19 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] RT @schestowitz If Patents Win in the West, Then the Chinese Win http://is.gd/uOBzhp #china #patent #bubbleJan 19 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] starting to listen to !lo 186 again... for the 8th or 9th time. Dear Life, stop interrupting me!Jan 19 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Ok people you make some great wallpapers, but drop the Apple Logos.Jan 19 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OIN is Very Different From #CPTN and #UNIX Risk is Revisited http://is.gd/2ODD93 #attachmft #novell #microsoft #linuxJan 19 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #OIN is Very Different From #CPTN and #UNIX Risk is Revisited http://is.gd/2ODD93 #attachmsft #novell #microsoft #linuxJan 19 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Hehehe.... ;)Jan 19 22:07
DaemonFCI wonder if the Canadian government really has nothing better to do than retroactively ban 80s music because some hypersensitive douche got his feelings hurtJan 19 22:08
DaemonFCwhat's funnier is that it has right wing political groups here fuming when the FCC mandated that the word faggot couldn't be said on the radio years agoJan 19 22:10
DaemonFCin fact, they've all been playing the edited version ever since I can rememberJan 19 22:11
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MinceRwell, usians only rarely remember that they pay lip service to "freedom"Jan 19 22:12
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MinceRincluding "freedom of speech"Jan 19 22:12
MinceRthough even that is preferable to what happens in hungaristanJan 19 22:12
MinceRwhere "freedom of speech" is a concept the average citizen hasn't even heard ofJan 19 22:12
MinceRand most people don't know what the word "liberal" meansJan 19 22:13
MinceRthey have a stupid misconception of it insteadJan 19 22:13
MinceR(including politicians)Jan 19 22:13
MinceRthis is the country where "liberals" supported a law against holocaust denialJan 19 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #FireBug is seriously starting to get on my nerves. what's with the hardcoded white console bg? what's with strange ways of autocompletion?Jan 19 22:14
DaemonFCMinceR, In practice, the courts have ruled that I have freedom of speech unless it causes or promotes physical harm to othersJan 19 22:14
DaemonFCcourts have narrowed that down, for example, to the fact that I have the right to write a book on bomb makingJan 19 22:14
DaemonFCbut if I encourage the bombing of a person or group within that book, it becomes a violent actJan 19 22:15
MinceRviolence, not just encouraging crime?Jan 19 22:16
DaemonFCfor some reason, the FCC gets to act outside of the US Constitution and ban harmless free speech on electronic mediaJan 19 22:16
DaemonFCthe net neutrality debate is really just their effort to take over the internet and impose their rules there tooJan 19 22:16
MinceRbetter than the rules of the megacorps, apparentlyJan 19 22:17
DaemonFCthe reason they can get away with it is because they fly the flag of decency and convince parents they're only using their extralegal powers to keep fart and poop jokes off the airJan 19 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz What #UNIX risk? SCO tried that. Failed miserably. Meaning of !gnu is GNU's Not Unix (as in, no source code) #swpat real prob.Jan 19 22:17
MinceRnet neutrality has nothing to do with decency, thoughJan 19 22:18
DaemonFCit's OK to see a guy get shot 48 times and get his head ripped offJan 19 22:18
DaemonFCbut if someone says the F word, it's a $250,000 fineJan 19 22:19
MinceRlolJan 19 22:19
MinceRwell, i see no issue with seeing a guy get shot 48 times and getting his head ripped offJan 19 22:19
MinceRor with the f wordJan 19 22:19
DaemonFCnet neutrality just sets a precedent that they regulate the flow of information on the internetJan 19 22:19
DaemonFCthey'll use it later to ban free speechJan 19 22:20
MinceRbut maybe that's because i'm an adult, unlike those religious nuts with fake moralityJan 19 22:20
MinceRactually if the FCC doesn't get to regulate it then the megacorps would ban free speechJan 19 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LO recorded, off to bed...Jan 19 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @ruiseabra that's what he was talking about, MS will own all of novell's unix patents in that caseJan 19 22:20
DaemonFCeventually the FCC would probably mandate content filtering for private internet accountsJan 19 22:20
MinceRthe wikileaks incidents have shown that megacorps are already all too willing to enforce laws/self-invented "morality"Jan 19 22:21
DaemonFCso they could block sites they don't like on the ISP levelJan 19 22:21
DaemonFCthe government gets to decide what judge hears all their casesJan 19 22:22
DaemonFCthey pick the ones that have ruled in their favor consistentlyJan 19 22:22
DaemonFCit helps that most of the important positions are political appointments to begin withJan 19 22:22
DaemonFCeven if you beat the government in court the first round or two, eventually it ends up in an appeals court where the state governor or the president hand picked the judgeJan 19 22:23
DaemonFCthen you loseJan 19 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Al Franken: No joke, Comcast trying to whack Netflix http://ur1.ca/2y1xr !wlJan 19 22:24
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DaemonFCThe only reason the FCC hasn't been able to storm the beaches of the internet just yet, despite their own ruling that they have authority, is because no law ever gave them the authorityJan 19 22:24
DaemonFCso they're just waiting on new law that doesJan 19 22:24
DaemonFCI was kind of expecting something like that to get slipped through during the Christmas recessJan 19 22:25
DaemonFCthey've done that a lot with really bad legislationJan 19 22:25
oiaohmTechically the FCC has authority by default until some law takes it away from them.Jan 19 22:25
DaemonFCI think the Federal Reserve was established with 6 Senators presentJan 19 22:25
hazzySo, if the Comcast-NBC deal passed, why shouldn't the Google-ITA deal pass?Jan 19 22:26
DaemonFCall it takes is for one of them to come in and gavel a session open and call a voteJan 19 22:26
oiaohmAll comunications not defined as owning to any other branch own to FCC by default.Jan 19 22:26
DaemonFCif the other 99 aren't there, too badJan 19 22:26
oiaohmSo if you decided to set up some new optical signaling system.  FCC could stick there noise in as well.Jan 19 22:26
oiaohmHeck even if you decided to send memory cards via dog or something else stupid.Jan 19 22:27
DaemonFCit's why they have someone come in every day they're in recess and gavel a session open and immediately close itJan 19 22:27
DaemonFCthat ends all business for the dayJan 19 22:27
oiaohmThe idea that internet is above the law is wrong.Jan 19 22:28
oiaohmProblem with the internet is working out who law applies.Jan 19 22:28
MinceRthe problem is with the laws, not with the internetJan 19 22:28
MinceRand of course with all the fascist governmentsJan 19 22:29
MinceRalways looking for new ways to oppress people instead of doing their jobsJan 19 22:29
DaemonFCthat is their jobJan 19 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple’s CEO Leaves Just as #Apple Probed for #Monopoly Abuse http://is.gd/oEQyxM #europe #stevejobsJan 19 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple’s CEO Leaves Just as #Apple Probed for #Monopoly Abuse http://is.gd/oEQyxM #europe #stevejobs #antitrust #hypeapdJan 19 22:30
oiaohmYep work out how to give more pen pushers jobs.Jan 19 22:30
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MinceRif that is their job then their existence is illegitimateJan 19 22:31
MinceRwell, of course their existence is illegitimateJan 19 22:31
MinceRthough there are a couple functions governments could serve while they reduce their own size and influence gradually...Jan 19 22:31
oiaohmMinceR: a long time ago lot of clercs were required to process paperwork.Jan 19 22:32
oiaohmThe invention of computers has done in a lot of those jobs.Jan 19 22:32
MinceRso?Jan 19 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ruiseabra SCO failed because UNIX copyrights belonged to Novell. now Novell sold those, hence UNIX risk revisited...Jan 19 22:32
oiaohmSo they work there ass off hiding the displacement.Jan 19 22:32
oiaohmCreating new jobs that need pen pushers.Jan 19 22:32
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DaemonFCI see Banshee has split Last.FM into two plugins, one for scrobbling and one that's off by default that can play music if you have a premium Last.FM accountJan 19 22:32
MinceRdoesn't mean it's right that they get to do that.Jan 19 22:32
DaemonFCI guess they got sick of all the "Why doesn't Last.FM work?" postsJan 19 22:32
oiaohmDon't worry its normally only temp.  MinceRJan 19 22:33
oiaohmFirst stage create more jobs than what is required.Jan 19 22:34
oiaohmSecond stage restruct the departments because they are  too expensive.Jan 19 22:34
oiaohmThird stage sacked too many todo the jobs.Jan 19 22:34
oiaohmthen return to first stage.Jan 19 22:35
oiaohmThis is kinda a never ending goverment cycle.Jan 19 22:35
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oiaohm"first time the FCC has ever allowed discrimination on the Internet"  Boy people have short memories.Jan 19 22:36
oiaohmComputserv anyone.Jan 19 22:36
MinceRCompuServe isn't internet, afaikJan 19 22:37
oiaohmIt was a wrapper over the internet that was used to restrict access.Jan 19 22:37
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twitterRead Write web notices that a toolbar scam is part of Bing market share gain.  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_3rd_biggest_advertiser_is_a_bing_affilia.phpJan 19 22:41
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twitterThat and the forced default on cell phones, new computers inflicted with Windows, etc.Jan 19 22:42
oiaohmtwitter: Problem is I cannot see who is behind that.Jan 19 22:43
MinceRduhJan 19 22:44
MinceRit's m$Jan 19 22:44
twitteryou really can't tell where hundreds of thousands of dollars for a make_my_baby.com scam comes from?Jan 19 22:44
MinceRthey're still struggling to get people to use bìngJan 19 22:44
twitterno one would put up that kind of money on their own.Jan 19 22:44
twitterIt had to come from Microsoft.Jan 19 22:44
MinceRthey used to pay people to make them use whatever bìng happened to be called at the timeJan 19 22:45
MinceRthis is a different approach to the same goalJan 19 22:45
oiaohmI have not looked close enough at that.Jan 19 22:45
oiaohmto check if the 3rd biggest has hidden any other back doors.Jan 19 22:46
twitterthis one hides in the fine print and the usual "you need a plugin to do this"Jan 19 22:46
oiaohmExactly what else is in the plugin twitterJan 19 22:46
twitterthey are obvious frauds, ohm.Jan 19 22:46
oiaohmI know they are fraudsJan 19 22:46
oiaohmBut are they are bot net master as well.Jan 19 22:46
twitterso there's no telling what kind of malware they pushJan 19 22:47
oiaohmReally the total mix of malware will give us a better clue who they are.Jan 19 22:47
twitterjust like there's no telling what Microsoft sends back to themselves via Vista and Windows 7 encrypted communicationsJan 19 22:48
twitterIt's someone who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote Bing.  They might also be a bot herder but that is irrelevant and the Bing issue is proved.Jan 19 22:49
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twitterMicrosoft disowned them, as they do all of their scape goats.Jan 19 22:49
DaemonFCCompuserve was an AOL-type service, walled gardenJan 19 22:50
DaemonFCthey both added internet access laterJan 19 22:50
DaemonFCthen AOL bought CompuserveJan 19 22:50
DaemonFCfor a while, the Compuserve browser was based on Gecko, not IE/TridentJan 19 22:50
DaemonFCI think it went back to IE thoughJan 19 22:50
DaemonFCthere was a beta version of AOL that used GeckoJan 19 22:51
oiaohmAOL netscapeJan 19 22:51
twitterMicrosoft Software, so bad the company has to pay people to use it.Jan 19 22:51
DaemonFCno, the AOL clientJan 19 22:51
DaemonFCthere was a beta you had to be invited toJan 19 22:51
DaemonFCit used Gecko as the AOL browser's rendererJan 19 22:51
twitterAOL bought Netscape, it was unnatural for them to not use the browser.Jan 19 22:52
oiaohmWhen AOL bought netscape they did a hybred.Jan 19 22:52
oiaohmGecko tridentJan 19 22:52
DaemonFCthey never really used Netscape muchJan 19 22:52
oiaohmIn the AOL browser and in netscapeJan 19 22:52
oiaohmWhat was basically the same thing.Jan 19 22:52
twitterIt was gone in the blink of an eye, then they fired the developers.Jan 19 22:52
DaemonFCthe Windows version uses IE/Trident and the Mac version uses WebkitJan 19 22:53
DaemonFCway back when, they used their own rendering engine thoughJan 19 22:53
twitterDaemonFC, uses AOL on Mac?  Wow!Jan 19 22:53
MinceRlolJan 19 22:53
DaemonFCyes, it has Topspeed Technology to make my 56k modem go VROOMJan 19 22:54
DaemonFCuh huhJan 19 22:54
DaemonFC:)Jan 19 22:54
MinceRthat can't be good for the modem :>Jan 19 22:54
twitterzzzzoooooommmmmmJan 19 22:54
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twitterhave fun with the Bing news.  That search engine is not going anywhere soon.Jan 19 22:55
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*DaemonFC throws a Winmodem at MincerJan 19 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave http://is.gd/oyxBuS #microsoft #ballmer #xbox #kinJan 19 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Software Company’s CEO (Named Steve) Expected to Leave http://is.gd/oyxBuS #microsoft #ballmer #xbox #kin #vistaJan 19 22:57
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oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAwNQ  I guess you have both seen this.Jan 19 22:57
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MinceRoh, according to "How Does This Work?", it could be independent of m$Jan 19 22:57
MinceRsince it benefits Zugo as wellJan 19 22:58
MinceRvia affiliate commissionsJan 19 22:58
oiaohmMinceR: linkJan 19 22:58
MinceRsame articleJan 19 22:59
MinceR( http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_3rd_biggest_advertiser_is_a_bing_affilia.php )Jan 19 22:59
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MinceRthere's a sidebar titled "How Does This Work?" on that pageJan 19 23:00
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62565202Jan 19 23:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 20:49:24 UTC - Identi.ca: PatentFairness.org: The Patent System Today Discourages U.S. Job Growth. http://is.gd/uiC8JZJan 19 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] So, it seems like @asu 's new content protection bullshit is actively severing my IRC connections.Jan 19 23:05
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62554032Jan 19 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jan-11 15:49:23 UTC - Identi.ca: Notion Ink Adam clears FCC, begins shipping ‘around Wednesday’ http://is.gd/yKRv6S #tablet !linuxJan 19 23:06
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DaemonFCMinceR, I had partial success with my last Winmodem under Linux, I could get to 33.6k with itJan 19 23:07
DaemonFCI finally gave up and got a real modemJan 19 23:07
DaemonFCwhich I still have (works for faxes)Jan 19 23:07
DaemonFCthe problem at the time was that it slowed down my system a lot when I was using the modem and it introduced lagJan 19 23:08
DaemonFCboth counterproductive to gaming :)Jan 19 23:09
MinceRi have two real external modems that can do 56kJan 19 23:13
MinceRbut i don't use them nowadaysJan 19 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OSI and FSF jointly refer CPTN purchase of Novell patents to US Department of Justice: http://wmk.me/hmxB4YJan 19 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Thor trailer: Heimdall's black? Loki's oriental? Aren't these characters based upon *the*norse*gods*? WTF?Jan 19 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @tekk #swpat yes. But not *UNIX* risk.Jan 19 23:14
MinceRi never got more than 43k or so thoughJan 19 23:14
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oiaohmi have only once got max MinceRJan 19 23:14
oiaohmMind you it was on a bench doing 2 feet of cable.Jan 19 23:14
MinceRlolJan 19 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @rysiek SCO failed on what matters to us because it had no grounds. All that remained was a fight over the UNIX rights (which we don't need)Jan 19 23:15
MinceRis it a good idea to run a gnu/linux system off an SD card? (as a sort of "poor man's SSD" in a laptop that has a HDD in its HDD bay)Jan 19 23:16
oiaohmMore often than not no.Jan 19 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @ruiseabra but the #swpats are on UNIX, in which case it makes sense to call it a unix risk, imoJan 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Thor 's producers are definitly racist. Including out of context other races "just because" is an attempt of hiding an underlying racism.Jan 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @tekk No, that's a #swpat problem. Totally unrelated to UNIX. Windows *could* theoretically infringe them. A non OS app could just as well.Jan 19 23:19
oiaohmDepends on the laptop.Jan 19 23:19
oiaohmSome laptop SD slots are down right slow.Jan 19 23:19
oiaohmUSB 1.0 interface for SD is cheep.Jan 19 23:19
MinceRyes, i just realized that they often use usb to do it :)Jan 19 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @ruiseabra I agree with that, but Microsoft would still spread FUD about UNIX copyrights which Attackmate would own if deal passes through.Jan 19 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @ruiseabra hmm....good point. perhaps he was saying unix as a way of encompassing all unixen? GNU/linux would leave out bsd, etc.Jan 19 23:20
MinceRwould usb 2.0 high-speed be worthwhile, though?Jan 19 23:20
oiaohmYes usb 2.0 high speed bus connecting to a USB 1.0 interface to the SDJan 19 23:21
oiaohmequally lot of cases faster to put the SD card in a USB 2.0 extenal reader than in the laptop.Jan 19 23:21
MinceRanother thing i'm wondering about if there's a usb 2.0 flash drive that's small enough to only stick out a little bit from the usb slotJan 19 23:21
MinceRthat could be another optionmJan 19 23:21
MinceRbut in any of these cases, is plain flash fast enough to be considered as a system drive?Jan 19 23:22
oiaohmProblem is there is no such thing as plain flash.Jan 19 23:22
oiaohmThey are many different speeds.Jan 19 23:22
MinceR(i'm thinking about being able to let the laptop hdd spin down most of the time, making it safer to move about)Jan 19 23:23
oiaohmSome are good enough to be system drives some are not.Jan 19 23:23
MinceRwhat i'm aware of is that SSDs seem to be relatively expensiveJan 19 23:23
oiaohmExpenive because they are the higher quality flash.Jan 19 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @ruiseabra depends on what sits inside Novell's patent portfolio, about to be bought by MS-allies: http://ur1.ca/2y2x4Jan 19 23:24
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oiaohmand they have biodirection connections.Jan 19 23:24
MinceRso i should look for usb 2.0 high-speed (or better) card readers with high-speed sd cards then?Jan 19 23:24
oiaohmBasically USB 3 with a flash drive would be good.Jan 19 23:24
oiaohmwould be able to match an internal SSDJan 19 23:24
MinceRnot sure how widespread usb3 isJan 19 23:24
oiaohmusb 2.0 with a decient bit of flash media normally will beat a old bog standard platter drive.Jan 19 23:25
oiaohmusb 1.0 just don't even think about it.Jan 19 23:25
oiaohmAlso remember flash has the exploive failure habit.Jan 19 23:26
oiaohmIe it fails everything gone.Jan 19 23:26
Diablo-D3 hehJan 19 23:26
Diablo-D3oiaohm: not evenJan 19 23:26
Diablo-D3quit trollingJan 19 23:26
Diablo-D32.0 maxes out at 240 mbit in one directionJan 19 23:26
Diablo-D3thats 30mb/secJan 19 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @flying_squirrel Remember, folks, the primary purpose of attack ads is to discourage voter turn-out. They shouldn't be rewarded. #cdnpoliJan 19 23:27
Diablo-D3there are 5400rpm 2.5" laptop drives that do three to four times thatJan 19 23:27
Diablo-D3MinceR: usb3 isnt "widespread"Jan 19 23:27
Diablo-D3it wont be until intel and amd ship southrbridges with native usb3 controllersJan 19 23:28
MinceR:>Jan 19 23:28
DaemonFCI got 50.2 on mineJan 19 23:28
Diablo-D3all the current usb3 products being sold all use the same NEC chipJan 19 23:28
DaemonFCbut I live about 100 feet from the central officeJan 19 23:28
Diablo-D3which isnt bad, btwJan 19 23:28
Diablo-D3I have one on a pci-e board, works greatJan 19 23:28
DaemonFCwhich also gives me 12 Mbps DSLJan 19 23:28
DaemonFCyou really have to be close enough to see their office to get 12Jan 19 23:29
DaemonFCmost of the town only can get 1, 3, or 6Jan 19 23:29
oiaohmBut the seek time on the usb 2.0 device is bugger all.  Diablo-D3   Also note I said old bog standard drive.  I should have stated a year 2002 and before.  A true old drive.  Ones without much cache to cure seek issues.Jan 19 23:30
Diablo-D3true old drives use IDEJan 19 23:31
DaemonFCI had considered 25, 50, or 100 when I had Comcast, but those packages are unaffordableJan 19 23:31
Diablo-D3which causes a lot of problems wrt: speedJan 19 23:31
oiaohmYep.Jan 19 23:31
Diablo-D3a slow drive on sata is going to be faster than a drive that has the same raw speed on ideJan 19 23:31
Diablo-D3oiaohm: btw, seek time is ... eh...Jan 19 23:32
DaemonFCI'll probably get fiber to the home at some point, but I'd have to buy out the rest of my DirecTV contract to do it nowJan 19 23:32
Diablo-D3the problem is USB2 has no DMA functionalityJan 19 23:32
Diablo-D3so you're boned for high bandwidth no latency shitJan 19 23:32
DaemonFCand for $20 a month just to cancel it, I think I'll keep it :)Jan 19 23:32
Diablo-D3USB3 added firewire-like DMAJan 19 23:32
DaemonFCit seems to me that USB 3 would be excessive just to sync an mp3 player or somethingJan 19 23:33
DaemonFCmy printer works fine as-isJan 19 23:33
DaemonFCI'll get USB 3 with a future system but by itself I don't care about itJan 19 23:33
MinceRdepends on what you use it forJan 19 23:34
MinceRit would be real handy if you wanted to connect a monitor with itJan 19 23:34
MinceRor a network adapterJan 19 23:34
MinceRor a storage device you intend to use more intensively than a media playerJan 19 23:35
MinceRhm, i can see this laptop doesn't use usb for the built-in sd card readerJan 19 23:36
DaemonFCUSB 1 was the last time I had a painful experience with transfer speedJan 19 23:37
MinceReven with usb 2.0 i've seen pretty hefty cpu load when doing bulk transferJan 19 23:37
DaemonFCtry syncing MP3s at 1.5 MB per secondJan 19 23:38
DaemonFCit could take well over a minute just to put one album on the playerJan 19 23:38
DaemonFCUSB 2 is something like 40 times faster than full bandwidth USB 1 could give youJan 19 23:39
DaemonFCstill more than sufficient for the things most people doJan 19 23:40
DaemonFCthen you have to consider that the flash memory might not let you write to it as fast as your USB connection could feed it anywayJan 19 23:41
DaemonFCso USB 3 isn't going to improve things unless faster flash drives come about tooJan 19 23:41
DaemonFCthey no doubt will, but the ones peoples have now won't improveJan 19 23:41
DaemonFCthis is one of those upgrades that could drive you nuts if you want to be a perfectionistJan 19 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OSI And FSF In Unprecedented Collaboration To Protect Software Freedom: http://wmk.me/esl1eQ [by me, on CWUK]Jan 19 23:42
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oiaohmhttp://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/005/M5622.php  Diablo-D3 Some USB2 controllers have DMA functionality.   USB 3 makes it a requrement not a optional as it was in USB 2 standard.Jan 19 23:42
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DaemonFCmy USB controller has DMA supportJan 19 23:42
DaemonFCon my old PC tooJan 19 23:42
oiaohmYes USB 2 without DMA sucks the living daylights out the CPU at times. Yes in the same class as darn winmodems.Jan 19 23:44
DaemonFCyeah, I don't cheap out on this stuffJan 19 23:45
DaemonFClow end motherboards tend to have USB without DMAJan 19 23:45
DaemonFCthere's a reason it's cheapJan 19 23:45
DaemonFCI get the ones they like to advertise as "server" motherboards, they tend to have all sorts of fun things like a half dozen SATA connectorsJan 19 23:47
oiaohmI get a mixture of different boards.Jan 19 23:47
oiaohmBut I do watch what they are made of.Jan 19 23:47
oiaohmI use some makes of destkop boards for servers and vice verser.Jan 19 23:48
oiaohmYes there are even crap server boards.  With the word its a server board on it.Jan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3oiaohm: no, the USB2 controllers use DMA all the timeJan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3USB2 itself doesntJan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3firewire style dma == the device itself dmas to host memory straight through everythingJan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3USB3 has it, firewire has it, USB2 doesntJan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3USB2 is stuck polling everythingJan 19 23:50
Diablo-D3and it just fucks your shitJan 19 23:50
DaemonFCI have a firewire portJan 19 23:52
DaemonFCnever found a device that uses Firewire so I left it unconnectedJan 19 23:53
DaemonFCfrees up a bayJan 19 23:53
DaemonFCI've seen a couple things that use Firewire but I get the impression it's not commonJan 19 23:54
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oiaohmhow the polling is done also depends on the controller. Supports 4 User-Configurable Endpoints.  controller polling and passing straight threw to memory without bugging the cpu.   There is a lot of USB 2 controller varation leading up to the usb 3 firewire like solution.Jan 19 23:56
MinceRcan a USB host controller do the polling on its own or must CPU code run at that moment to control it?Jan 19 23:57
oiaohmDepends on the controller.  MinceRJan 19 23:57
oiaohmSome can some cannot.Jan 19 23:57
oiaohmUSB 3 basically sorts it out.Jan 19 23:57
oiaohmUSB 1 cannot at all.  USB 2 is a confused mess.  USB 3 is kinda everything you need standard.Jan 19 23:58
DaemonFCwhy does Epiphany open pop up bubbles containing my outgoing messages and display them as if they were an incoming one?Jan 19 23:59
DaemonFCI've found closing and restarting it fixes it for a whileJan 19 23:59
DaemonFCerrJan 19 23:59
DaemonFCEmpathyJan 19 23:59

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