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MinceRgnJan 22 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good to read that the Android java issue is a non issue - http://ur1.ca/2z4dp #fbJan 22 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus the Man Christ. Now getting page long emails by Mac people. What have I done..... X(Jan 22 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @fontana @bkuhn Yeah I get behind too. Always want to catch up though. Lagging feels like failing somehow :)Jan 22 00:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 8.5 KBJan 22 00:07
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gnufreexIf I were Google, I would be suing Florian Mueller for libel. He clearly tries to create FUD so device manufacturers dump Android for WP7Jan 22 00:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] If I were Google, I would be suing Florian Mueller for libel. He clearly tries to create FUD, so device manufacturers dump Android for WP7.Jan 22 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Say, @x11r5, you might want to say hello to @swadeshine ... he's a good guy who doesn't discriminate against bots like they do in TatooineJan 22 00:22
ziggyfishhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/236580.aspJan 22 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tech VP: Without Schmidt, 'Google can stop copying Microsoft' .::. Size~: 70 KBJan 22 00:30
ziggyfishinterestingJan 22 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[siltaar/@siltaar] Pourquoi le programme spatial Galileo n'avance pas ? http://ur1.ca/2z4q7 WikiNews détaille la piste récemment mise au jour par !WikiLeaksJan 22 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Espace : le directeur général d'OHB limogé - Wikinews .::. Size~: 27.74 KBJan 22 00:34
gnufreexziggyfish: That article is veeeery incorectJan 22 00:35
gnufreexSchmidt left from Novell for Google in 2001Jan 22 00:36
gnufreexThat is before Novell bought SUSE and XimianJan 22 00:36
gnufreexAnd yet, that article claims that it was Schmidt who started those.Jan 22 00:36
sebsebsebhmm Ubuntu communityJan 22 00:37
ziggyfishI knowJan 22 00:37
sebsebsebthey do so much, that other distro communties don't at the moment hmmJan 22 00:37
sebsebseband as a resut get most Desktop Linux users, hmmJan 22 00:38
sebsebsebshame reallyJan 22 00:38
ziggyfishsebsebseb: what do they do, that others don't?Jan 22 00:38
sebsebsebwould be better if had a few distros  being most used, with great communitiesJan 22 00:38
sebsebsebziggyfish: uh what distro are  you on?Jan 22 00:39
sebsebsebwell they got Jono Bacon for a startJan 22 00:39
oiaohmsebsebseb: Really Ubuntu does shiny shiny shiny really well.Jan 22 00:39
sebsebseboiaohm: I mean the community now, not the distro itselfJan 22 00:39
oiaohmBut I want functional.Jan 22 00:39
sebsebsebziggyfish: Jono Bacon all the stuff he does, and his question and answers ustream as wellJan 22 00:39
oiaohmWhy they have the community is shiny shiny shiny sebsebsebJan 22 00:39
sebsebsebziggyfish: Ubuntu Users Day, I mean look at the time table for the one coming up next Saturday, amazing reallyJan 22 00:39
sebsebsebziggyfish: Ubuntu Open Week after a new release, again sessions on IRC about stuff like user daysJan 22 00:40
sebsebseball that kind of stuff, its wow reallyJan 22 00:40
gnufreex<sebsebseb> well they got Jono Bacon for a startJan 22 00:40
gnufreexwhat is so special about him? I think other distros are better off without himJan 22 00:40
oiaohmOnce a human start using something they avoid changing until they really hate it.Jan 22 00:40
sebsebsebgnufreex: well he does his blogging and his ustream sessionsJan 22 00:40
sebsebsebgnufreex: and he does quite a good job at spreading Ubuntu HypeJan 22 00:40
gnufreexsebsebseb: You mean he advertises Microsfot Vista 7 and does spindoctoring.Jan 22 00:41
gnufreexYeahJan 22 00:41
gnufreexI think other distros don't need such clownsJan 22 00:41
sebsebsebgnufreex: altough in his last one from 2010  the questions and answers one, that I just seen,  he says how he wasn't paid to promote UnityJan 22 00:41
ziggyfishsebsebseb: ubuntuJan 22 00:41
sebsebsebgnufreex: and his ending he has a point,  need a big community, really to make a big differenceJan 22 00:41
gnufreexWhat ending?Jan 22 00:42
sebsebsebhttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11706635Jan 22 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon 12/29/10 11:58AM, At Home With Jono Bacon 12/29/10 11:58AM jonobacon on USTREAM. Computers .::. Size~: 32.49 KBJan 22 00:42
sebsebsebhttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11706635Jan 22 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon 12/29/10 11:58AM, At Home With Jono Bacon 12/29/10 11:58AM jonobacon on USTREAM. Computers .::. Size~: 32.49 KBJan 22 00:42
sebsebsebgnufreex: even I enjoy these ustream sessions, and I am not that keen on Ubuntu anymoreJan 22 00:43
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I would like and expect others to do the sameJan 22 00:43
sebsebseband I was doing something else that evening, hence why I only just bothered to see itJan 22 00:43
sebsebsebziggyfish: others to do what?Jan 22 00:43
gnufreexThis vide doesn't workJan 22 00:44
ziggyfishsebsebseb: host events like Fedora Users DayJan 22 00:44
sebsebsebgnufreex: ziggyfish Look at the scheduled for the next users day, looks pretty amazing really. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysJan 22 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu User Days - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 27.87 KBJan 22 00:44
sebsebsebziggyfish: uhmm these sessions are aimed at newbies, about stuff to do with the distro from people invovled with it, and they ask questiosnJan 22 00:44
sebsebsebuser days is still reasonably new, but they done Open Week after a new release, for a few years nowJan 22 00:45
sebsebsebsame kind of thingJan 22 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How much selfserving does straits times hae to be to lky and the half truths book? Nothing-to-report day. #fbJan 22 00:46
ziggyfishsebsebseb: Linux is missing tutorials for newbies, and updated tutorials for expertsJan 22 00:46
sebsebsebziggyfish: gnufreex https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeekJan 22 00:46
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sebsebsebgnufreex: that particular video he keeps on saying Linux though, and Ubuntu,  not Linux distrosJan 22 00:46
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I just wish these events would be held in AustraliaJan 22 00:46
sebsebsebthen that time when someone asked what he used before Ubuntu, he said Windows 95Jan 22 00:46
sebsebsebaltough before he has said that he used to use Mandriva in his ustreamJan 22 00:47
sebsebsebziggyfish: heh good luck with that, I think Australlia might be even more Ubuntu than hereJan 22 00:47
gnufreexsebsebseb he should Call it Ubuntt XJan 22 00:47
gnufreexlike OSXJan 22 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches RDF Working Group http://ow.ly/1aYq0uJan 22 00:47
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sebsebsebgnufreex: for next users day, they got a session for those coming from OS X even, for a changeJan 22 00:47
sebsebsebI have a feeling that user days andJan 22 00:47
sebsebsebMageia alpha 1Jan 22 00:47
sebsebsebmight be the same dayJan 22 00:47
sebsebsebor maybe alpha 1 the day before user days, so yeah that Saturday will be quite busy for meJan 22 00:48
sebsebsebziggyfish: I am going to contribute to Mageia :) community stuffJan 22 00:48
ziggyfishsebsebseb: in Australia, we only have http://linux.org.au/Jan 22 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Australia | Promoting FOSS .::. Size~: 16.39 KBJan 22 00:48
ziggyfishsebsebseb: thatJan 22 00:48
sebsebsebziggyfish: already have a bit here and there really,  but no ISO just yetJan 22 00:48
ziggyfishsebsebseb: that's the other thing we are lacking, need more developersJan 22 00:49
cubezzzI use multiple distros, besides it's fun trying out new thingsJan 22 00:49
sebsebsebUbuntu keeps on getting the new people thoughJan 22 00:49
sebsebsebmost of themJan 22 00:49
sebsebsebinstead of most of them going to other distrosJan 22 00:49
sebsebsebbe that users, or even new developersJan 22 00:49
ziggyfishsebsebseb: when fedora start thinking of the users, they will get newbies as wellJan 22 00:49
sebsebsebgnufreex: and he goes on about the great operating sytem basicaly as in Ubuntu, and how can bring it to loads of people, uhmm that is many Linux distros really though, not jus UbuntuJan 22 00:50
sebsebsebziggyfish: Fedora heh hehJan 22 00:50
sebsebsebFedora heh heh again and being newbie friendlyJan 22 00:50
sebsebsebziggyfish: uhmm yeah well a start would be them actsaully providing Virtualbox from the repoJan 22 00:50
cubezzzI thought fc1 was pretty friendlyJan 22 00:51
sebsebsebboth me and schestowitz wanted it when we did Fedora, and yep not in repoJan 22 00:51
ziggyfishsebsebseb: from a developers point of view, why go contribute to a distribution that has little user base, and is a complete waste of timeJan 22 00:51
sebsebsebcubezzz: I was quite impressed with Fedora Core 2 and 4 back in 2004 and 5, but well I coudn't use online at the timeJan 22 00:51
gnufreex<sebsebseb> ziggyfish: uhmm yeah well a start would be them actsaully providing Virtualbox from the repoJan 22 00:51
gnufreexVirtual Box is proprietary. Use OSEJan 22 00:51
gnufreexOr kvmJan 22 00:51
sebsebsebgnufreex: KVM is out for people like me, who don't have a computer that can do hardware virtualisationJan 22 00:51
sebsebsebwell I guess the other one can probably, but that one runs Mandriva, and I am not only user of that computerJan 22 00:52
ziggyfishgnufreex: why not use KVMJan 22 00:52
gnufreexQEMU can do itJan 22 00:52
sebsebsebgnufreex: also as far as I know still need Virtualbox 4.0 if going to virtual machine Canonica's Unity for exampleJan 22 00:52
sebsebsebziggyfish: we need a strong good user friendly alternativeJan 22 00:52
sebsebsebziggyfish: with a good communityJan 22 00:52
sebsebsebalternative to Ubuntu that is and even distros based on it really, so yep not MintJan 22 00:52
cubezzzwe need x86 alternatives tooJan 22 00:52
gnufreexsebsebseb then use Virtual BOX OSEJan 22 00:53
gnufreexOr wait Vbox 4Jan 22 00:53
sebsebsebgnufreex: can't get that from Fedora repoJan 22 00:53
sebsebseband Virtualbox 4 has been out for a whileJan 22 00:53
gnufreexIt will be opensourcedJan 22 00:53
ziggyfishsebsebseb: agreed, actually we need developers to develop for the project it's self rather than the distributionsJan 22 00:53
sebsebsebsadly my current distro PCLinuxOS didn't provide Vbox 4 from repoJan 22 00:53
sebsebsebziggyfish: well that as well, developers should mainly contribute upstream, not make stuff for specific distrosJan 22 00:53
sebsebsebalso what Canonical are doing,  basically becoming an upstream for something important the user interface, like they are doing with Unity, whilst not being like a proper upstream, since yep copyright assignments, well that's wrong reallyJan 22 00:54
sebsebsebGnome can't adopt Unity whilst it has copyright assignmentsJan 22 00:54
cubezzzgnu/linux is kind of like a swiss army knifeJan 22 00:54
cubezzzand there's tons of different knivesJan 22 00:54
sebsebsebziggyfish: we need  strong good user friendly known about as being good by many alternative distros,  to Ubuntu  and that aren't based on it, and right now there is nothingJan 22 00:55
ziggyfishthe real problem is, you need to be in the industry for years to understand how the Linux community worksJan 22 00:56
sebsebsebziggyfish: according to Mint they are the 3rd most used OS for home users, after Windows, Mac OS X, and Ubuntu, but yep one version is based on Ubuntu the probalby more user freindly version as well, the other on Debian TestingJan 22 00:56
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I am liking gnome 3.0Jan 22 00:56
sebsebsebziggyfish: are you trying latest Gnome Shell version? If so how? and what distro?Jan 22 00:56
sebsebsebI want to try it, but I got a problem,  first of all PC LInux OS don't provide it in their repoJan 22 00:56
sebsebsebsecond of all the Gnome site itself,  the instructiosn for installing Gnome Shell seemed complacted to meJan 22 00:57
gnufreexziggyfish: I am liking it too. GNOMEshell is greatJan 22 00:57
ziggyfishsebsebseb: compiled from source, and of course ubuntuJan 22 00:57
gnufreexBut those pesky buntu folks wont use it.Jan 22 00:57
sebsebseband also well I will need a Nivida propritary driver,  I tried to do that in Fedora before, but then had some issuesJan 22 00:57
sebsebsebziggyfish: yeah I am actsaully thinking about doing Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2Jan 22 00:57
sebsebsebziggyfish: getting rid of PC Linux OS, putting Ubuntu back on, this time Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2, well its nearly 3rd Febuarary now when it comes outJan 22 00:58
ziggyfishgnufreex: as a wise man once said gnu/linux is kind of like a swiss army knife and there's tons of different knivesJan 22 00:58
sebsebseband then yep try out their Unity again, but also get a ppa or whatever for Gnome Shell, but yeah exactly Ubuntu won't evenJan 22 00:58
sebsebsebprovide that in the 11.04 repos it seemsJan 22 00:58
sebsebseband they won't support it by defaultJan 22 00:58
sebsebsebziggyfish: so its kind of funny in a way, if I end up doing later version of Gnome Shell,  on Ubuntu, of all distrosJan 22 00:58
gnufreexI must stop ranting about Ubuntu... but can't... it is fun :-)Jan 22 00:59
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I didn't like unityJan 22 00:59
ziggyfishgnufreex: rant about fedoraJan 22 00:59
sebsebsebI am not that keen on it either from my trying of the Ubuntu 10.10 version on my Desktop with Ubuntu and LubuntuJan 22 00:59
sebsebseband  my trying of 11.04 alpha 1Jan 22 00:59
sebsebsebfrom what I seen online recently,  for well using, it will have improved quite a bit since beforeJan 22 01:00
gnufreexFedora is great. I can't find what to rant about.Jan 22 01:00
sebsebsebfrom a technical point of view, well it still has copyright assignments, and its not really meant to exist in the first place, because Ubuntu/Canonical aren't really meant to be an upstream for big stuff like user interfaces, reallyJan 22 01:00
cubezzznot the greatest for very old hardware, that's about all I can say against fedoraJan 22 01:00
sebsebsebziggyfish: ,but well it exists now, so yep of  course I Will be trying it out at timesJan 22 01:01
ziggyfishsebsebseb: the good thing is if you don't like unity, you can always go back to gnomeJan 22 01:01
sebsebsebziggyfish: they are also doing a 2D Unity now as an option, but for 11.10 that might be default instead of the old lookJan 22 01:01
sebsebsebas for Unity it will be like Windows, popularJan 22 01:02
sebsebseband so some of us will want to try sometimesJan 22 01:02
ziggyfishsebsebseb: hopefully gnome 3.0 comes out by thenJan 22 01:02
sebsebsebI looked at the Gnome 3 release scheduled not that long ago reallyJan 22 01:02
sebsebsebit seems 3.0 at begining of April and then 3.0.1 at the endJan 22 01:02
sebsebseband Fedora 15 will probably do Gnome 3 by default, and that will come out in May I guessJan 22 01:03
ziggyfishsebsebseb: they were meant to release 3.0 last yearJan 22 01:03
sebsebsebyep I knowJan 22 01:03
sebsebsebits delayed by a yearJan 22 01:03
sebsebsebziggyfish: from what I seen on websites of later Gnome Shell's I am not sure how much I will like itJan 22 01:03
sebsebseb,because now like Unity it has a dock down the left hmmJan 22 01:03
sebsebseband I used the I belilve it was the 2.29.1 version quite a lot  earlier last year,  with Mandriva 2010.1 :)Jan 22 01:04
ziggyfishsebsebseb: from a developer point of view, I like the javascript engineJan 22 01:04
sebsebsebziggyfish: also it will lack the Gnome weather feature :(Jan 22 01:04
ziggyfishsebsebseb: are you a developer?Jan 22 01:05
sebsebseb,but it seems stuff lik that will probably be in 3.2Jan 22 01:05
cubezzzbtw... if you still want to do the kde 3.5.10 thing I made a list of distros that still use itJan 22 01:05
sebsebsebno I am not a developerJan 22 01:05
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/kde3.5-distros.txtJan 22 01:05
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sebsebsebcubezzz: as for KDE 3, well yeah Trinity need to vm thatJan 22 01:05
sebsebsebcubezzz: as well as a few distros that still use it, VectorLinux I belive for exampleJan 22 01:05
ziggyfishcubezzz: I've been running KDE 4 for a while, it's very sluggishJan 22 01:05
ziggyfishand a memory hogJan 22 01:05
sebsebsebziggyfish: sluggish as in slow?Jan 22 01:06
cubezzzah yes, that's why I run 3.5.X :)Jan 22 01:06
ziggyfishsebsebseb: yesJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebI find KDE 4 wellJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebrather  horrible to customiseJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebfor a startJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebcompared to KDE 3 and Gnome 2Jan 22 01:06
sebsebsebcan't even easilly move the icons on the bottom panel for exampleJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebthe bar at the bottomJan 22 01:06
ziggyfishI do like the window manager though, has some features that would really be good in gnome,  like activitiesJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebtheir's this like edit mode, but I never had much luck in thereJan 22 01:06
sebsebsebI am ok now with KDE 4 though, if a distro sets it up good for me by default :)Jan 22 01:07
sebsebsebthen I can enable background changer slide  show as well :DJan 22 01:07
sebsebseband Mandriva and PC Linu OS, set up good by default :)Jan 22 01:07
sebsebseband Mageia will probably as well so :)Jan 22 01:07
sebsebsebKubuntu I find horribleJan 22 01:07
sebsebseblookingJan 22 01:07
sebsebseb,but they are also  very close to upstream and how they do the theme, so hmmJan 22 01:08
ziggyfishis PCLinuxOS any good?Jan 22 01:08
sebsebsebziggyfish: oh yes PC Linux OS is a great distro at the moment, unless you want Gnome Shell or Unity of courseJan 22 01:08
sebsebsebor Virtuabox 4.0 for that matterJan 22 01:08
sebsebseb,but  Gnome Shell can somehow be installed it it anyway,  and same for Virtualbox 4.0Jan 22 01:09
sebsebsebziggyfish: its a rolling release, but one that does stable packagesJan 22 01:09
sebsebsebso  not always the latest stuffJan 22 01:09
ziggyfishsebsebseb: does it need hardware acceleration (going to try it in VirtualBoxJan 22 01:09
sebsebsebnope don't need hardware virtaulisation for PC LInux OSJan 22 01:09
sebsebsebwell maybe for Compiz or something like that, but otherwise nahJan 22 01:09
ziggyfishsebsebseb: what KDE version?Jan 22 01:09
sebsebsebziggyfish: uhmm well they support a few desktops offically :)Jan 22 01:10
sebsebseball good as wellJan 22 01:10
sebsebsebhttp://pclinuxos.comJan 22 01:10
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sebsebsebhttp://pclinuxos.comJan 22 01:10
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*ziggyfish downloading it nowJan 22 01:10
sebsebsebright now I am using the Gnome 2 versionJan 22 01:10
sebsebsebor one  of them even the main oneJan 22 01:11
ziggyfishsebsebseb: it's RPM based isn't it?Jan 22 01:11
sebsebseb,but  KDE 4 was quite a lot for me that version, with my Christmas background changer slideshow :DJan 22 01:11
sebsebseband I was on Enlightment the other day for a while and  yeahJan 22 01:11
sebsebsebziggyfish: it was a fork of Mandriva back in 2007Jan 22 01:11
sebsebseband it was quite popular for a while as well, but then one of their devs died or wahteverJan 22 01:11
sebsebsebziggyfish: more recently they have their own base as wellJan 22 01:12
ziggyfishsebsebseb: have you heard of RPM fussion?Jan 22 01:12
sebsebseband yes it uses RPM'sJan 22 01:12
sebsebsebRPM fussion is a way to get codecs in FedoraJan 22 01:12
sebsebsebziggyfish: have you tried Mandriva?Jan 22 01:12
sebsebsebMandriva is my favourite distro at the moment really :)Jan 22 01:13
sebsebseb,but even so, I want to be running other stuff on this computerJan 22 01:13
sebsebsebhowever the other one still has it, but I don't tend to use that computerJan 22 01:13
ziggyfishsebsebseb: yeah, but haven't used it since it was called MandrakeJan 22 01:13
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I think Mandrake 9.0 was the last one I usedJan 22 01:13
sebsebsebziggyfish: well many of the packages in latest Mandriva will be nearly a year old now, but still goodJan 22 01:13
sebsebsebziggyfish: however well the fork will be intersting :)Jan 22 01:14
sebsebsebyeah the fork, started by a lot of ex devs, who lost their job earlier last yearJan 22 01:14
*sebsebseb is still waiting for alpha 1 ISOJan 22 01:14
ziggyfishsebsebseb: are you running PCLinuxOS now?Jan 22 01:14
sebsebsebziggyfish: company issues, and then new Russian investors,  and quite a few of the Mandriva developers lost their job, and so the Mageia fork got announched  on September 18thJan 22 01:15
sebsebseband yes I am running PC Linux OS right now on this computer :)Jan 22 01:15
ziggyfishsebsebseb: can you run uname -a and tell me the kernel version?Jan 22 01:15
sebsebsebziggyfish: why?Jan 22 01:16
sebsebseband yes I canJan 22 01:16
sebsebsebanyway its the same kernel as Ubuntu 10.04 and apparnatly the reason for this is, because 35 had sound issueJan 22 01:16
sebsebseb,but someone was doing 37 earlier or whatever, so I guess thats coming soonJan 22 01:16
sebsebsebziggyfish: 35 the Ubuntu 10.10 kernel I thinkJan 22 01:17
sebsebsebziggyfish: anyway my kernel is 2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfsJan 22 01:17
sebsebseb2.6.33.7-pclos6.bfsJan 22 01:17
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I am moving a couple of windows servers to KVM based vurtialization, want to try the latest kernel to see any preformance increasesJan 22 01:17
sebsebsebziggyfish: well they aren't using the latest kernelJan 22 01:18
sebsebsebor not yet anywayJan 22 01:18
sebsebsebziggyfish: KDE 4.6 coming to PCLOS next week apparnatlyJan 22 01:20
ziggyfishsebsebseb: Wow that is an old kernelJan 22 01:20
sebsebsebziggyfish: yes, but I think  a new kernel may be coming soonJan 22 01:20
ziggyfishsebsebseb: 2.6.35?Jan 22 01:20
sebsebsebziggyfish: no 37Jan 22 01:20
cubezzzLinux mail.maxhost.org 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp #1 SMP <- old :)Jan 22 01:20
sebsebsebziggyfish: a guy in pclinuxos channel seems to have been testing itJan 22 01:20
sebsebsebziggyfish: anyway those chanenls are good if you want to find out more about the distro, I don't know that much about itJan 22 01:21
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I was going to use gentoo, but couldn't really be bothered waiting for it to compileJan 22 01:21
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sebsebsebziggyfish: yeah you could go their channel and ask about pclinuxos :DJan 22 01:22
sebsebsebalso 2.6.33 is a special kernelJan 22 01:22
sebsebsebsince upstream Linux will support it for three yearsJan 22 01:22
sebsebsebso rather perfect for Ubuntu 10.04 as the kernel, but not quite, because the server version will have to get a later version later onJan 22 01:23
*ziggyfish installing PCLinux now in virtualboxJan 22 01:24
sebsebsebziggyfish: ok well seems, some  proper updates will be coming next weekJan 22 01:25
oiaohm1 kernel every 12 months has longer than to the next kernel.Jan 22 01:25
oiaohmOf full blown support.Jan 22 01:25
sebsebseboiaohm: uh that didn't make sense?Jan 22 01:25
oiaohmI just siad that incorrectly.Jan 22 01:25
sebsebsebanyway I could use a quite old kernel today, and still be ok for my useage :DJan 22 01:25
oiaohmLinux kernel policy.Jan 22 01:26
sebsebsebits just yeah,  want to be using kernels that still get security updatesJan 22 01:26
sebsebsebmeant, above, not wnatJan 22 01:26
cubezzzha, no one hacks BL3Jan 22 01:26
sebsebsebcubezzz: BL3 ???Jan 22 01:26
sebsebsebalso cubezzz likes his old kernels and old KDE 3's and so on it seemsJan 22 01:26
cubezzzBasic Linux 3Jan 22 01:26
sebsebsebmaybe using older stuff, reminds him of when he was younger, I mean not sure his age, but he's about 60 now I think :DJan 22 01:27
cubezzzno I'm not that oldJan 22 01:27
cubezzzbut I have a ton of older computersJan 22 01:27
sebsebsebcubezzz: oh right 70 hmmJan 22 01:27
sebsebsebcubezzz: seriously your probably more like about 55 year oldsJan 22 01:27
oiaohmReally I am looking forward to the next gcc.Jan 22 01:27
cubezzzif I was 70 I'd be talking about PDP's and nixie tubesJan 22 01:28
oiaohmHopefully with correct optimistation lot of C++ memory bloat can disappear.Jan 22 01:28
cubezzzoiaohm, what about Linux with 1.0 or 2.0 kernel?Jan 22 01:28
sebsebsebziggyfish: also they woudn't be so keen on me telling  you this a lot of the PCLOS guys really, but uhmmJan 22 01:28
cubezzzwere those "bloated"?Jan 22 01:29
sebsebsebziggyfish:  I haven't used Gentoo myself yet, but I guess like that really,but more simple much more simpleJan 22 01:29
cubezzzor did it become bloated later?Jan 22 01:29
sebsebsebziggyfish: Unity Linux not a real distro, a distro builder though yes, well it can be used as a distro, but its for building other distrosJan 22 01:29
sebsebsebziggyfish: started by some of the ex PC Linux OS developers, so yeah some issues between the two communities here and thereJan 22 01:30
sebsebseband just like PC Linux OS, well it started off as a fork of MandrivaJan 22 01:30
*cubezzz is using cbfs and loving itJan 22 01:31
sebsebsebziggyfish: and both communities have some quite good and interesting people on IRCJan 22 01:31
sebsebsebsadly with PCLOS though,  most support and that is done on the forum not IRC, by well a long wayJan 22 01:31
sebsebsebziggyfish: ,but Mageia is the one I am waiting for :)  and those three distros,  plus Mandriva, all part of the same  distro family really :)  plus those distros based on Unity really as well so :)Jan 22 01:32
ziggyfishcubezzz: cbfs = ?Jan 22 01:32
cubezzzcore boot file systemJan 22 01:32
cubezzzused for modding your biosJan 22 01:32
sebsebsebhowever Mageia uhmmJan 22 01:32
sebsebsebwellJan 22 01:32
sebsebsebsince first release will be be branded Mandriva CookerJan 22 01:32
sebsebsebI don't expect a proper Gnome 3 in it, plus it will be released around the same time as Gnome 3 the final,  but yes maybe a Gnome 3 preview in repoJan 22 01:33
sebsebsebthen I guess for next Mageia they will do Gnome 3 and so on, so :)Jan 22 01:33
oiaohm1.0 was barely functional.  cubezzzJan 22 01:33
sebsebseband that's above, re branded Mandriva CookerJan 22 01:33
sebsebsebanyway ziggyfish quite a lot of interesting alternative distros to Ubuntu really :)  ,but I do think another is a good thing that is good, as in Mageia, and one that may gain quite a lot of users in the next two years or soJan 22 01:34
sebsebsebcompetition is goodJan 22 01:34
sebsebsebchoice is good :)Jan 22 01:34
cubezzzoiaohm, I still use 2.0 occasionallyJan 22 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Early lessons from the Tunisian revolution. https://eff.org/r.x9g #sidibouzidJan 22 01:34
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oiaohmcubezzz: Linux kernel got functional at the start of 2.0 kernel.   Even so 2.0 is single core only.Jan 22 01:34
cubezzzTom's Root Boot (3.5" diskette) for systems with no cdromJan 22 01:34
cubezzzyeah good for old old stuffJan 22 01:35
oiaohm2.2 Linux kernel brought in the bklJan 22 01:35
ziggyfishas I said when distributions start becoming user friendly, that's when they will get usersJan 22 01:35
sebsebsebhmm Ubuntu is like Windows for me now, at times I might  want to use it, because of something,  altough actsaully in the case of Windows that's hardly ever now, but I wanted to try Windows 7 properly before, but well haven't, and now I don't really care that much about thatJan 22 01:35
cubezzzwhen you just want a quick wget or somethingJan 22 01:35
oiaohmand the darkages of Linux kernel development starts there.  cubezzzJan 22 01:35
oiaohmcubezzz: we are starting to come out the other side now.Jan 22 01:36
sebsebsebziggyfish: and I only really got this computer to distro play with at the moment, so yeah can only really run one distro at  a time pshically installed, since how things are set upJan 22 01:36
sebsebsebwell I could do another pshyhical install of a distro if I really wanted to I guess, but no point, since only going to run one at a time anyway  on hereJan 22 01:36
sebsebseband other computer will stay Mandriva for now, so yep what I was saying,  and yeahJan 22 01:37
cubezzzI like to think of the introduction of win95 as the start of the "dark ages"Jan 22 01:37
sebsebsebziggyfish: and I guess with Unity and Gnome Shell, need to have a pshyical install really, for the proper expereinceJan 22 01:37
cubezzzoiaohm, I hear the first computer kits came with commented bios source codeJan 22 01:37
cubezzztry asking for that now :)Jan 22 01:38
oiaohmcubezzz: Not for XTJan 22 01:38
sebsebsebas for Mageia well i'll have a virtual machine soon after alpha 1 :)Jan 22 01:38
sebsebseb,but yes eventually this will probably become my main distroJan 22 01:38
cubezzzkits like Kim-1 and ummm Altair I thinkJan 22 01:38
cubezzzanyways, you can get IBM AT bios source _now_Jan 22 01:39
cubezzzit's floating aroundJan 22 01:39
oiaohmKits like those still exist today.Jan 22 01:39
oiaohmIe arm development boards.Jan 22 01:39
oiaohmmips development boardsJan 22 01:39
sebsebsebziggyfish: however its a bit sad realy, that will probably have to wait untill the next release for Gnome 3 in Mageia,  unless install oneself hmmJan 22 01:39
cubezzzoiaohm, and also 6502Jan 22 01:39
oiaohm......Jan 22 01:39
cubezzzso yeah, no more dark ages hopefullyJan 22 01:39
oiaohmAll except AVR and PIC boards that don't come with a BIOS in the first place.Jan 22 01:40
sebsebsebziggyfish: also see for yourself,  altough the PC Linux OS version of the control centre is a bit sucky compared to the one in Mandriva, it's older as wellJan 22 01:40
cubezzzsebsebseb, did you mod your KDE?Jan 22 01:41
ziggyfishI use synapticJan 22 01:41
cubezzzmine all say Control Center :)Jan 22 01:41
sebsebsebziggyfish: ,but oh yes distros such as,  Mandriva, PC LInux OS,  and Mageia when its made, with control centre, oh yes that's user friendly, however most of those features aren't really needed by most users so hmm.   Also Linux Mint I find rather user friendly over Ubuntu, since the Mint menu and suchJan 22 01:41
sebsebsebziggyfish: you got Synaptic in Gentoo?Jan 22 01:42
ziggyfishany other config I use command lineJan 22 01:42
sebsebseband the control centre isn't for  installing software, but can open up a software installerJan 22 01:42
sebsebsebok so your like me you like Synaptic :)Jan 22 01:42
sebsebsebwellJan 22 01:42
ziggyfishsebsebseb: gentoo doesn't have synapticJan 22 01:42
sebsebsebthat's another major advantage PC Linux OS has  over similar distros such as Mandriva,  and Mageia when made, and Unity LinuxJan 22 01:43
sebsebsebPC LInux OS has Synaptic :)Jan 22 01:43
sebsebsebwell the Gnome version anywayJan 22 01:43
cubezzzeven in Trinity it's Trinity Control CenterJan 22 01:43
sebsebsebcan install Synaptic into the KDE version as well, but it seems that hte KDE version wants to use Smart Packager Manager which I find odd for installing software, sucky evenJan 22 01:43
sebsebsebcubezzz: Trintiy has the Mandriva Control Centre?Jan 22 01:43
cubezzzoh I never used MandrivaJan 22 01:44
sebsebsebziggyfish: one of the main reasons I  finally got round to giving PC LInux OS a try on here,  is  how it has Synaptic,  with apt-rpm though a bit differnet to how Ubuntu and Debian install stuffJan 22 01:44
cubezzzjust fc1, debian and vectorJan 22 01:44
cubezzzre: KDEJan 22 01:44
sebsebsebziggyfish: ,but yeah Synaptic I do tend to miss in distros that don't have it, I am just to used to it from using it in UbuntuJan 22 01:45
sebsebsebfor when I wasn't sure a package name for example, oh sure there's a command for finding out, but stillJan 22 01:45
cubezzzah France, that's why :)Jan 22 01:45
cubezzzfigured it had to be EuroJan 22 01:45
sebsebsebfor software I know the name of, I would useaully sudo apt-get or    sudo apt-get purgeJan 22 01:45
sebsebsebcubezzz: sure, except now its Russian really insteadJan 22 01:46
cubezzzin Canada we spell it centre tooJan 22 01:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: its also Brazilen still like before, beause I think some devs from there or whatever, and they got a big Brazilen customerJan 22 01:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: however the new Mandriva  investors are RussianJan 22 01:46
ziggyfishnice, clean install gives me errorsJan 22 01:46
sebsebseb,but the Mageia fork is  started by quite a few of the former French develoeprs and suchJan 22 01:46
sebsebseband Mageia is uhmm located in France, but yeah an international project still of course, since its a distroJan 22 01:47
sebsebsebziggyfish: what of PC LInux OS?Jan 22 01:47
sebsebsebcubezzz: an Ubuntu is American now reallyJan 22 01:47
cubezzzyeahJan 22 01:47
ziggyfishsebsebseb: yes, http://ftp.vim.org/... 404 Not FoundJan 22 01:47
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cubezzznot a big fan of Ubuntu reallyJan 22 01:48
sebsebseboh sure Mark Shuttleworth is South African and Canonical has an office in London, and whatever on the Isle Of ManJan 22 01:48
sebsebsebziggyfish: ah yes I am not sure, but I think download servers might be down or somethingJan 22 01:48
sebsebsebziggyfish: ask in  #pclinuxos or #pclinuxos-supportJan 22 01:48
ziggyfishsebsebseb: do you see my point, ubuntu just worksJan 22 01:48
sebsebsebziggyfish: no they were saying something about changing serversJan 22 01:48
sebsebsebin those channelsJan 22 01:48
*cubezzz wonders which distro supports old hardware the bestJan 22 01:49
sebsebsebziggyfish: also if your going to be like that, give Mint a goJan 22 01:49
cubezzzLike ISA era oldJan 22 01:49
sebsebsebziggyfish: what's good from Ubuntu, with added user friendly, and nicer themes :) and default backgrounds, basicalleyJan 22 01:49
ziggyfishsebsebseb: so how am I meant to update my system now? unless I do a complete reinstallJan 22 01:50
sebsebsebziggyfish: anyway one guy was like to me, you haven't read the forums againJan 22 01:50
sebsebsebziggyfish: another was likeJan 22 01:50
cubezzzah, I have the solution :)Jan 22 01:50
cubezzzjust do what I doJan 22 01:50
ziggyfishsebsebseb: I shouldn't need toJan 22 01:50
cubezzzcompile everything :-0Jan 22 01:50
sebsebsebibiblio is rehoming, and it affects all the mirrorsJan 22 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] New airborne Navy jammer could invade networks, take down websites > http://goo.gl/0Cr1b #infowar !wikileaksJan 22 01:51
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cubezzzthen you never have to reinstallJan 22 01:51
sebsebsebziggyfish: that's the only thing with PCLOS though other then what I said beforeJan 22 01:51
ziggyfishcubezzz: then what's the point of a distribution?Jan 22 01:51
sebsebsebziggyfish: some of the people in the IRC, aren't that nice at all reallyJan 22 01:51
sebsebsebat timesJan 22 01:51
cubezzzziggyfish, maybe the distro was abandoned and you still wish to use it, but still want updatesJan 22 01:52
cubezzzit's happened to meJan 22 01:52
cubezzzplus you avoid the reinstall probJan 22 01:52
ziggyfishsebsebseb: that's not my point, from a users point of view PCLinuxOS is disfunctionalJan 22 01:52
sebsebsebziggyfish: what, because it can't be downloaded right now?Jan 22 01:52
ziggyfishsebsebseb: if other distributions want users, they need to fix these simple issuesJan 22 01:53
sebsebsebwhat simple issues?Jan 22 01:53
sebsebsebziggyfish: to be honest nice distro PC Linux OS, except for a few things about it, but it was only for a while for me, untill I run something else again on hereJan 22 01:53
sebsebsebziggyfish: and yep 11.04 alpha 2Jan 22 01:54
sebsebsebit will be nextJan 22 01:54
cubezzzziggyfish, stuff like Plan 9 doesn't even have a package managerJan 22 01:54
sebsebsebfor how long I don't knowJan 22 01:54
cubezzzso you have to compileJan 22 01:54
sebsebsebziggyfish: and if I get to annoyeed with 11.04, I guess I may put on Mageia alpha 1 :)Jan 22 01:54
sebsebsebeven though it will be quite similar to Mandriva 2010.1 reallyJan 22 01:54
sebsebsebexcept for later packages here and there, and the re branding, and yep Libre Office instead of Open OfficeJan 22 01:54
sebsebseband whatever bugs, since it would be alpha 1Jan 22 01:55
ziggyfishcubezzz: I don't mine compilingJan 22 01:55
cubezzzI wrote my own scanner app just for funJan 22 01:55
ziggyfishcubezzz: nothing comes close to FreeBSDJan 22 01:56
cubezzzziggyfish, for...?Jan 22 01:56
ziggyfishcubezzz: serversJan 22 01:56
cubezzzah okJan 22 01:56
ziggyfishcubezzz: have you tried FreeBSD?Jan 22 01:57
sebsebsebziggyfish: however yes in general Ubuntu   downloads and mirrors and repos workJan 22 01:57
sebsebsebpretty much all the timeJan 22 01:57
cubezzzziggyfish, yes and also openbsdJan 22 01:57
sebsebsebziggyfish: something I noticed with Mandriva was how,  had to wait a while before I upgraded a 2010.0 install to 2010.1 for example, beause the mirrors needed to be ready firstJan 22 01:58
sebsebseband yes it was a while after release, before those repos could do itJan 22 01:58
sebsebsebziggyfish: however most other distros, have smaller communities, and less funding and all that, so yeahJan 22 01:58
ziggyfishcubezzz: FreeBSD just feels better than Linux, maybe it's because FreeBSD is a direct desendent of Unix where as Linux is only a cloneJan 22 01:59
cubezzzziggyfish, but what do you run for desktop?Jan 22 01:59
oiaohmziggyfish: they don't wnat to remember that Linux won the vote for the standard syscalls between Unix systems.Jan 22 02:01
ziggyfishcubezzz: Linux, I use to run FreeBSD, but back then I relied on vmware (to run Windows) and vmware didn't have any FreeBSD support at allJan 22 02:01
cubezzzI ran openbsd on a dell optiplex gx110 for a whileJan 22 02:01
ziggyfishcubezzz: I've never tried openbsdJan 22 02:02
cubezzzto me the new BSD's aren't really like the Unix I rememberJan 22 02:02
cubezzzso BSD/Linux is all newishJan 22 02:02
oiaohmLinux is very newish.Jan 22 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] Attorneys: Sarah Palin (etc.) could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit.ly/hPKDxy !WikiLeaksJan 22 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palin to be prosecuted for inciting violence if she visits Australia, attorney says |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 29.96 KBJan 22 02:02
oiaohmBSD for many years been a follower.Jan 22 02:03
oiaohmNot a leader.Jan 22 02:03
ziggyfishcubezzz: is pure UNIX still being developed?Jan 22 02:03
ziggyfishoiaohm: Linux is older than WindowsJan 22 02:04
cubezzznot sure if any Unix is really "pure" but I think IBM still uses AIX yes?Jan 22 02:04
cubezzzziggyfish, no it's notJan 22 02:04
cubezzzwindows 1.0 came out in 1985Jan 22 02:04
cubezzzI realize it was only a dos shell, but it was still "windows"Jan 22 02:04
ziggyfishcubezzz: forgot about Windows 1.0Jan 22 02:05
cubezzzI had to evaluate windows 2.0 at work :)Jan 22 02:05
cubezzzand I hated itJan 22 02:05
cubezzzI didn't really like Unix at first eitherJan 22 02:05
cubezzztook a while before it grew on meJan 22 02:06
cubezzzand it really wasn't Unix I tried first, it was "Venix" :)Jan 22 02:06
oiaohmAIX is for power archsJan 22 02:06
cubezzzdon't think it's around anymore thoughJan 22 02:06
oiaohmYes it still developed.Jan 22 02:06
oiaohmAIX supports sections of Power archs Linux does not have frameworks to cover.Jan 22 02:07
cubezzzoiaohm, can a home user buy AIX for their box?Jan 22 02:07
oiaohmNot last time I looked.Jan 22 02:07
oiaohmLast time I had looked AIX for x86 was no more.Jan 22 02:08
cubezzzah. well that figuresJan 22 02:08
cubezzzVenix died in 1994Jan 22 02:08
cubezzzso probably none of you folks ever even saw itJan 22 02:09
oiaohmPower archs have some very unique virtualisation options.Jan 22 02:09
cubezzzI know it's old but I still like fc1Jan 22 02:14
cubezzzuse it every day evenJan 22 02:14
cubezzzI don't think kooka has changed since 2000 :)Jan 22 02:15
ziggyfishoiaohm: I wonder if there are emulators for the original Unix systemsJan 22 02:15
cubezzzyup. there isJan 22 02:15
ziggyfishcubezzz: where?Jan 22 02:16
gnufreexoiaohm: There was AIX for x86 ?Jan 22 02:16
cubezzzXhomer for DEC Pro 350Jan 22 02:16
cubezzzziggyfish, they aren't easy to findJan 22 02:17
cubezzzsome of the maintainers stopped working on itJan 22 02:17
cubezzzXhomer is still around, at least the web page is still upJan 22 02:17
oiaohmgnufreex: there was at one pointJan 22 02:18
oiaohmAIX PS/2 v1.1, 1989 gnufreexJan 22 02:19
gnufreexAh...Jan 22 02:19
oiaohmLast release of that was 1992Jan 22 02:20
oiaohmYes I can understand you not knowing about it.Jan 22 02:20
cubezzzziggyfish, I think if you wanted a "pure" system you could try Linux From StratchJan 22 02:20
cubezzzthen add to it as you likeJan 22 02:20
cubezzzalso there is Fuse: Free Unix Spectrum EmulatorJan 22 02:21
ziggyfishcubezzz: just interested in the Unix historyJan 22 02:22
cubezzzalso the "Unix Heritage Society" might be of interestJan 22 02:22
cubezzzhttp://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.plJan 22 02:23
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ziggyfishanyway time for lunchJan 22 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] EFF: Don't Sacrifice Security on Mobile Devices http://lwn.net/Articles/424143/rssJan 22 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://wlcentral.org/ !wlJan 22 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Really close to this myself. http://pthree.org/2011/01/20/goodbye-facebook/ /via @BUGabundoJan 22 02:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WL Central | An unofficial WikiLeaks news source .::. Size~: 56.87 KBJan 22 02:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aaron Toponce : Goodbye Facebook .::. Size~: 60.37 KBJan 22 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks the internet and democracy (panel discussion) http://alturl.com/nvaq6 !wlJan 22 02:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - WikiLeaks, the Internet and Democracy    .::. Size~: 129.94 KBJan 22 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wash Post journalist declares an entire moth with no mention of Palin http://ur1.ca/2z63tJan 22 02:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I'm declaring February a Palin-free month. Join me! .::. Size~: 85.23 KBJan 22 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oil drilling is getting even more extreme and dangerous http://ur1.ca/2z642Jan 22 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Peace Corps Gang Rape: Volunteer Says U.S. Agency Ignored Warnings http://ur1.ca/2z643Jan 22 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oil drilling is getting even more extreme and dangerous .::. Size~: 99.41 KBJan 22 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Peace Corps Gang Rape: Volunteer Jess Smochek Says US Agency Ignored Warnings - ABC News .::. Size~: 77.51 KBJan 22 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sergiorauber/@sergiorauber] ♺ @swadeshine: Attorneys: Sarah Palin could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit.ly/hPKDxy !WikiLeaksJan 22 02:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palin to be prosecuted for inciting violence if she visits Australia, attorney says |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 29.96 KBJan 22 02:56
Diablo-D3hey royJan 22 03:15
Diablo-D3schestowitzJan 22 03:15
Diablo-D3schestowitzJan 22 03:15
Diablo-D3schestowitzJan 22 03:15
Diablo-D3schestowitzJan 22 03:15
Diablo-D3goddamnitJan 22 03:16
Diablo-D3http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or-weapons-of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162Jan 22 03:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 134.07 KBJan 22 03:16
Diablo-D3read the third paragraphJan 22 03:16
gnufreexI read that.Jan 22 03:16
gnufreexRead Brian Profitt at ITwireJan 22 03:16
gnufreexPeople are seeing what idiot Florian Muieller isJan 22 03:17
gnufreexI think schestowitz didn't read it... at least he didn't respond when I linked it.Jan 22 03:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Known Microsoft shill Florian Mueller tried to start legal war between Google and Oracle to destroy !Java and let C# win http://ur1.ca/2z6buJan 22 03:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 135.27 KBJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3gnufreex: that isnt itJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3it gets even betterJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3read the commentsJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3florian tries to trollJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3and gets smacked downJan 22 03:19
Diablo-D3gnufreex: gimme url for your thingJan 22 03:20
gnufreexI am searching, can't find it.Jan 22 03:20
gnufreexIt is up in this chanell, I linked it twiceJan 22 03:21
Diablo-D3its not in my bufferJan 22 03:22
gnufreexhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/134347/research-seems-point-google-infringement-java-codeJan 22 03:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Updated: Research seems to point to Google infringement of Java code, now refuted | ITworld .::. Size~: 86.88 KBJan 22 03:23
gnufreexIt was in other chanel, bn-socialJan 22 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude Good advice from the Electronic Frontier Foundation: "Don't Sacrifice Security on Mobile Devices" | http://ur1.ca/2z630Jan 22 03:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @sergiorauber ♺ @swadeshine: Attorneys: Sarah Palin could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit. ...Jan 22 03:26
gnufreexDiablo-D3 give me some link to craziest comments. I don't have time to read everything :-)Jan 22 03:31
gnufreexHaha, this is funny "I obviously did a lot of actual development as well. In this context here, we are however talking about analyzing - not writing - code."Jan 22 03:35
gnufreexThat is what FM said when someone asked him if he really writes code.Jan 22 03:36
Diablo-D3gnufreex: there isnt many commentsJan 22 03:37
Diablo-D3its mostly all FM going apeshitJan 22 03:37
ziggyfishbackJan 22 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] LOL @FOSSPATENTS - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or-weapons-of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162 #MSFTJan 22 03:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 133.51 KBJan 22 03:39
Diablo-D3manJan 22 03:39
Diablo-D3wheres enderJan 22 03:39
Diablo-D3he needs to be in hereJan 22 03:39
gnufreexDiablo-D3 Ender is now on the other side.Jan 22 03:40
gnufreexHe got Microsoft certifiedJan 22 03:40
gnufreexAnd he drank kool aid apparentlyJan 22 03:40
Diablo-D3I tried drinking the kool aid onceJan 22 03:45
Diablo-D3it didnt taste very goodJan 22 03:45
cubezzzsorry Ed, but the TRS-80 really suckedJan 22 03:46
cubezzzdo I know from 1st hand experience?  yes :)Jan 22 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] More proof Florian Mueller is a paid Microsoft troll http://ur1.ca/2z6mk !JavaJan 22 03:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New alleged evidence of Android infringement isn't a smoking gun .::. Size~: 33.32 KBJan 22 03:47
ziggyfishhttp://www.itnews.com.au/News/245710,agimo-re-opens-talks-on-desktop-standards.aspxJan 22 03:50
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FoundJan 22 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @swadeshine Attorneys: Sarah Palin (etc.) could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit.ly/hPKDxy ...Jan 22 03:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palin to be prosecuted for inciting violence if she visits Australia, attorney says |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 29.96 KBJan 22 03:51
gnufreexHaha, Florian in fact copied this research http://weblogs.java.net/blog/cayhorstmann/archive/2010/11/15/mystery-policynodeimpl-classJan 22 03:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Mystery of the PolicyNodeImpl Class | Java.net .::. Size~: 28.06 KBJan 22 03:52
ziggyfishmm interesting the TechrightsBot-tr bot doesn't read that whole URL correctly it stops at the ,Jan 22 03:52
gnufreexHe didn't research for himself, just copiedJan 22 03:52
gnufreexsuesuesuesueJan 22 03:52
gnufreexI had deja vu reading FM's "analysis"... because I have seen it before.Jan 22 03:53
oiaohmI understand orcale wanting answers.Jan 22 03:53
gnufreexThis what Florian does is just vague FUDJan 22 03:54
gnufreexIt can be proven or dissprovenJan 22 03:54
gnufreexIt is just to FUD peopleJan 22 03:54
gnufreexTo make manufactuers think about WP7Jan 22 03:54
*nisshh (~ryan@ubuntu/member/nisshh) has joined #techrightsJan 22 03:55
gnufreexThat is reason why he is spreading it.Jan 22 03:55
ziggyfishhttp://au.linkedin.com/pub/john-sheridan/4/a35/899 this explains the OOXML in AustraliaJan 22 03:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: John Sheridan - LinkedIn  .::. Size~: 30.51 KBJan 22 03:55
ziggyfishAugust 2008 — December 2008 (5 months)Jan 22 03:55
ziggyfishICT Coordinated Procurement Contracting Arrangements (Microsoft Volume Sourcing Agreement)Jan 22 03:55
ziggyfishAnalysts such as Gartner's Andrea DiMaio has argued that making the document available wasn't enough. Such a key piece of IT policy should have proactively been disseminated by the Government to ensure stakeholders were informed, he said.Jan 22 03:56
ziggyfishhttp://agimo.govspace.gov.au/2011/01/21/back-to-the-future-another-chance-to-influence-coe-development/Jan 22 03:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Back to the Future: Another chance to influence COE development | AGIMO Blog .::. Size~: 154.19 KBJan 22 03:58
ziggyfishif you don't want OOXML in Australia now is your chanceJan 22 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @sergiorauber ♺ @swadeshine: Attorneys: Sarah Palin could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit. ...Jan 22 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hey !heybuddy testers, fire up yer bzr and grab a fresh trunk with some pretend support for status.net instances != identi.caJan 22 04:02
gnufreexLWN blasted Florian Mueller too http://lwn.net/Articles/424107/Jan 22 04:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New alleged evidence of Android infringement isn't a smoking gun (ars technica) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 29.54 KBJan 22 04:11
cubezzzI hear things are bad OS-wise in AustraliaJan 22 04:20
cubezzzMicrosoft everywhereJan 22 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @hackeracademy ♺ @computerworld: Soundminer Trojan horse steals Android phone data http://bit.ly/eEBy32 #digital #securityJan 22 04:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @laquadrature du Net: EC Plans for All-Out War Against Sharing http://www.laquadrature.net/en/ec-plans-for-all-out-war-against-sharingJan 22 04:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  European Commission Plans for All-Out War Against Sharing | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 28.07 KBJan 22 04:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Good morning !identiverseJan 22 04:36
ziggyfishcubezzz: I added this comment http://agimo.govspace.gov.au/2011/01/21/back-to-the-future-another-chance-to-influence-coe-development/comment-page-1/#comment-2070Jan 22 04:36
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cubezzzwell of course using Microsoft is a bad ideaJan 22 04:40
cubezzzI never used Microsoft OfficeJan 22 04:40
cubezzzMostly I use ascii text files when I'm writing notesJan 22 04:43
ziggyfishcubezzz: so what happens when you do a presentation?Jan 22 04:44
ziggyfishcubezzz: do you do all your slides in ascii?Jan 22 04:44
cubezzzprobably if I did (which I don't) I'd use latex for thatJan 22 04:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @silner well actually, I am syncing myself using the <evil> dropbox ! And I also run the .liferea directory in RAM using tmpfs. Its fast !Jan 22 05:17
schestowitz[23:15] <gnufreex> schestowitz: Microsoft cronies at Reddit are telling me that I am you :-)Jan 22 05:19
schestowitzThey are miserableJan 22 05:19
schestowitzI never nymshifted or anything. They libel me.Jan 22 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For the last time: I *never* had any account in Reddit, but people libel me there endlessly. http://is.gd/ZgquYZJan 22 05:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle vs. Google: It’s Not Looking Good For Android : linux .::. Size~: 115.52 KBJan 22 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @swadeshine Attorneys: Sarah Palin (etc.) could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit.ly/hPKDxy !WLJan 22 05:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palin to be prosecuted for inciting violence if she visits Australia, attorney says |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 29.96 KBJan 22 05:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/28689143382941696Jan 22 06:05
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz @swadeshine Attorneys: #Palin (etc)could b prosecuted in #Australia ☛inciting #Assange assassination http://bit.ly/hPKDxy #WLJan 22 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Symphony of Science - 'The Big Beginning' (ft. Hawking, Sagan, Dawkins, Shears, Tyson) http://is.gd/NoC8Iv autotune #FTWJan 22 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/1/2011: #Pardus 2011, Red Hat's Andreas http://is.gd/YfaNpd !techrightsJan 22 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] inks 22/1/2011: #Pardus 2011, Red Hat's Andreas http://is.gd/YfaNpd !techrightsJan 22 06:29
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schestowitztessier: does the subsite have a directory? I think we may need that for the media filesJan 22 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes - Linux Phones, Pardus, Trusting One’s Government-funded Distribution, and Much More http://is.gd/yPcLOW http://is.gd/v2wwDWJan 22 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] !TechBytes - !Linux Phones, #Pardus , Trusting One’s Government-funded Distribution, and Much More http://is.gd/yPcLOW http://is.gd/v2wwDWJan 22 06:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 27: Linux Phones, Pardus, Trusting One’s Government-funded Distribution, and Much More | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.64 KBJan 22 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] That Was Quick: Here's Linux 2.6.38-rc2 Kernel: The Linux 2.6.38 kernel is shaping up to be very exciting even t... http://bit.ly/dZJFErJan 22 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !wikileaks Manning was placed on suicide watch 2 days this week - against trecommendation of jail's psychiat http://ur1.ca/2z85qJan 22 06:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawyer for Bradley Manning, Army figure in WikiLeaks case, alleges prison mistreatment - NewsTrust.net .::. Size~: 95.93 KBJan 22 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El Dr. @GlynMoody Refuta el Libro 'Estudio' financiado por Microsoft Contra el Software de Código Abierto http://is.gd/QzqX0hJan 22 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] El Dr. Glyn Moody Refuta el Libro 'Estudio' financiado por #Microsoft Contra el Software de Código Abierto http://is.gd/QzqX0h #fud !fsfJan 22 06:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: El Dr. Glyn Moody Refuta el Libro ‘Estudio’ financiado por Microsoft Contra el Software de Código Abierto | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.27 KBJan 22 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: No Hay FUD* Como un FUD Antiguo http://is.gd/d8ZueF Por el Dr. @GlynMoodyJan 22 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] ES: No Hay FUD* Como un FUD Antiguo http://is.gd/d8ZueF #microsoft #fud #lse !fsfJan 22 06:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] !TechBytes - Linux Phones, Pardus, Trusting One’s Government-funded Distribution, and Much More http://is.gd/yPcLOW http://is.gd/v2wwDWJan 22 07:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 27: Linux Phones, Pardus, Trusting One’s Government-funded Distribution, and Much More | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.64 KBJan 22 07:01
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tessierschestowitz: Not yet but I will have it set up momentarily...Jan 22 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @swadeshine Attorneys: Sarah Palin (etc.) could be prosecuted in Australia for inciting Assange assassination > http://bit.ly/hPKDxy #WLJan 22 07:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Palin to be prosecuted for inciting violence if she visits Australia, attorney says |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 31.2 KBJan 22 07:04
schestowitztessier: thanks :-)Jan 22 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks the internet and democracy (panel discussion) http://youtube.com/watch?v=KMzEdkiz5tY http://bit.ly/eP7BCgJan 22 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks news update http://wlcentral.org/ http://bit.ly/ettlfiJan 22 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Microsoft Entryism May Explain Australian #OOXML Decision http://is.gd/9axiUz John Sheridan ownedJan 22 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Entryism May Explain Australian #OOXML Decision http://is.gd/9axiUz #odf #Australia #entryism #JohnSheridanJan 22 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Screencast | GTK-RecordMyDesktop aka the "How I record my screencasts" metacast http://bit.ly/dYlVS0Jan 22 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] All !Gnome users should consider the Orta GTK theme http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/orta-140-released-best-gtk-theme-for.htmlJan 22 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Orta 1.4.0 Released - The Best GTK Theme for Ubuntu Just Got Better | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 46.21 KBJan 22 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s #SCO Tactics All Over Again: #Microsoft Florian Caught Lying http://is.gd/RNMU3j index about this #mobbyist updated http://is.gd/przc34Jan 22 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] It’s SCO Tactics All Over Again: Microsoft Florian Caught Lying http://is.gd/RNMU3j #swpats #google #scoracle #linux #android #copyrightJan 22 08:07
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ziggyfishschestowitz: Have you thought of adding another directory for non-english articles like http://techrights.org/es/?storiesJan 22 08:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: El Legado de BECTA | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.76 KBJan 22 08:10
schestowitzziggyfish: yes, that was suggested beforeJan 22 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] As we say in german, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to shut up ;-) http://ur1.ca/2z8qn cc @fosspatentsJan 22 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copied code not in Android source after all (updated) | Android Central .::. Size~: 128.08 KBJan 22 08:24
schestowitzI just wasn't sure how many translations we would get, received more than usual recently, it might not lastJan 22 08:24
schestowitzI suppose I could publish without it reaching or appearing in the front pageJan 22 08:25
ziggyfishschestowitz: yeah, and link to it in the original articleJan 22 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Love Rescue Me. Sung my Bono (voice) & me (guitar). Failure guaranteed... :-)Jan 22 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 27 – 14/01/11 http://tinyurl.com/5w9g6nlJan 22 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 27 – 21/01/11 http://tinyurl.com/5w9g6nlJan 22 08:29
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sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/banshee-video-tv-shows-windows-and-hackfest-oh-my/Jan 22 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banshee: Video, TV shows, Windows and hackfest, oh my! .::. Size~: 88.7 KBJan 22 08:53
schestowitzziggyfish: okJan 22 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] ♺ @openbytes TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 27 – 21/01/11 http://tinyurl.com/5w9g6nl !TechBytesJan 22 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 27 – 21/01/11 http://tinyurl.com/5w9g6nlJan 22 08:57
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sebsebsebschestowitz: oh man see commentsJan 22 09:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: on the link I gave, oh look who is replying as well :DJan 22 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] #cpbr4, aqui vou eu!Jan 22 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] As Expected, Microsoft Breeds Patent Cartels to Fight Against Linux http://is.gd/7en0DO #swpats #linux #Microsoft #intellectualventuresJan 22 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: As Expected, Microsoft Breeds Patent Cartels to Fight Against Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.09 KBJan 22 09:11
schestowitzManish Sinha :-)Jan 22 09:11
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62720190Jan 22 09:11
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 09:06:21 UTC - Identi.ca: As Expected, #Microsoft Breeds Patent Cartels to Fight Against !Linux http://is.gd/7en0DO #swpats #android #cptn #cartelJan 22 09:11
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schestowitzI see the bullies already slagging off Matt Asay some more for linking to usJan 22 09:13
schestowitzTypical.. so typicalJan 22 09:13
schestowitzAnyway, 8 posts so far today, let's check identica now :-)Jan 22 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm rt @exiledsurfer ♺ @parissummer FDL Coverage of #Bradley Manning’s Detention |Firedoglake http://ur1.ca/2ypw4 #FreeBradleyJan 22 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How did @fosspatents become a lawyer over night? Strange stuff ;-) http://ur1.ca/2z90sJan 22 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @hazzy "Exposing war crimes is not a crime" http://www.bradleymanning.org/Jan 22 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lies, damn lies, stats, and newspaper stories - http://bit.ly/gmR5uB aren't journalists supposed to be sceptical? #copyrightJan 22 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm AWESOME http://ur1.ca/2ypyg <right on @exiledsurfer that is GENIUS image !wikileaks #whistleblowerJan 22 09:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawyers Versus Geeks In Android Copyright Spat (ORCL, GOOG) .::. Size~: 124.09 KBJan 22 09:19
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: @exiledsurfer says: Why don't You Just Blow Me. | artificialeyes.tv .::. Size~: 9.83 KBJan 22 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And another one who believes @fosspatents is a lawyer (hint: he is not). http://ur1.ca/2z910Jan 22 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera During Chinese state visit they have been bombarded with lectures on how they should behave. "intelectual property"Jan 22 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @thetecheye: The Gospel of Steve Jobs - The closing chapters http://bit.ly/haawZv #businessJan 22 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechEye Bible: The Gospel of Steve Jobs - The closing chapters | TechEye .::. Size~: 32.86 KBJan 22 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @JesseBrown: RT @peternowak: NDP condemns usage-based internet billing http://bit.ly/euJ1qlJan 22 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Verizon sues FCC, says "net neutrality lite" rules illegal http://is.gd/Ojqi1r tail wags the dogJan 22 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadians lose out with internet metered billing | NDP .::. Size~: 38.74 KBJan 22 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thetecheye: “The trouble with upper class Englishmen is that they just can't drive past a perversion without pulling over” - Kathy LetteJan 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] I'm starting to like the way how you can re-load/update your code without restarting your program in #erlangJan 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trashbird1240 Ditching !compiz for #metacity and now ditching metacity for !openboxJan 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @hazzy "Perpetual War is Expensive! Jan 20 2011" http://is.gd/EBb4Cn #ronpaulJan 22 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If !Wikileaks Scraped P2P Networks for "Leaks," Did it Break Federal Criminal Law? http://is.gd/gOz4JQ "a prosecution... should fail."Jan 22 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Wikileaks Scraped P2P Networks for "Leaks," Did it Break Federal Criminal Law? | Freedom to Tinker .::. Size~: 50.73 KBJan 22 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @stephwho The Internet and especially Social Media turns the world into a village....Jan 22 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Barack Obama gives Hu Jintao the red carpet treatment http://is.gd/0wBtTy introduction to Steve Ballmer, too. #chinaJan 22 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like any "good" attack on a messenger, the US is now scraping for old 'dirt' on !wikileaks , trying to find something illegal.Jan 22 09:39
gnufreexThis is great. Notice Banshee and F-Spot got bad names http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D072PYtbQxYJan 22 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay] A good read about doing the right thing - http://is.gd/im4hFj #fb (Google's Niels Provos battles malware on the Web)Jan 22 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Here's a quick update on what we're seeing from Tor clients in Iran: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/update-internet-censorship-iranJan 22 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] ♺ @schestowitz: Like any "good" attack on a messenger,the US is now scraping for old 'dirt' on !wikileaks ,trying to find something illegal.Jan 22 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EFF obtains docs that reveal when authorities can get your data from social media companies http://is.gd/UFdWTx #privacyJan 22 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF obtains docs that reveal when authorities can get your data from social media companies - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 25.05 KBJan 22 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Breaking: Wikileaks cables cited by defense lawyers in French Guantanamo Trial http://wlcentral.org/node/1007 !wikileaks makes a differenceJan 22 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-01-20 Breaking: Wikileaks cables cited by defense lawyers in French Guantanamo Trial | WL Central .::. Size~: 16.39 KBJan 22 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahh... Freshly made coffee! French press rules! :)Jan 22 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Raving Rick: The Dash Has Landed http://goo.gl/a9B6r !ubuntu !unityJan 22 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #Kernel 2.6.38-rc2 released http://bit.ly/efBMpD #2638 "So it's been distinctly less than a week, but I'm leaving for LCA tomor[...]"Jan 22 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android - http://zd.net/eALDiv I look forward to the press retractions...Jan 22 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 130.98 KBJan 22 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China need not feel embarrassed about human rights (e.g. treatment of dissenters) given the US treatment of heroism suspect #BradleyManningJan 22 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A misguided approach - http://bit.ly/dMcL6J good piece about why EU plans to block websites is not the best way to fight child pornographyJan 22 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 9/11 events and Iraq invasion were used as an excuse for other invasions, e.g. Chechen war. Setting good example is crucial. #hypocrisyJan 22 10:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ORG Zine | A misguided approach .::. Size~: 24.22 KBJan 22 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jeremy Hunt announces review of 2003 Communications Act - http://bit.ly/eDmV4M this will need watching closely #ukJan 22 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IRIS Distribution targets file sharing http://is.gd/VhtNla everything in reverse. #riaa #propaganda #childrenJan 22 10:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Jeremy Hunt announces review of 2003 Communications Act - 21 Jan 2011  - Computing News            .::. Size~: 84.51 KBJan 22 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Looking for some good audio !podcasts on the !paranormal, but all I get is so old and outdated, any suggestions !spiritual !qabalahJan 22 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #HTML5 Logo Conversation http://is.gd/m9fLGAJan 22 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Belgian and Israeli Courts Grant Remedies to CC Licensors - http://bit.ly/i3IKHQ confirms legal position of #cc #licensingJan 22 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really?! Singaporeans are the 2nd coolest people on the planet. Hmm. I wonder what CNNgo was smoking :-). http://ur1.ca/2z9e7Jan 22 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Francis Ford Coppola On Art, Copying And File Sharing: We Want You To Take From Us - http://bit.ly/e0xpGE great stuffJan 22 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Belgian and Israeli Courts Grant Remedies to CC Licensors - http://bit.ly/i3IKHQ confirms legal position of #cc #licensingJan 22 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz The #HTML5 Logo Conversation http://is.gd/m9fLGAJan 22 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @piracy A Warning Message to the Algerian Government http://ur1.ca/2yugk << not #DDOS attacks made it happenJan 22 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz meaningless as "html is the new html5" renders the #html5 logomark obsolete IMNSHO http://blog.whatwg.org/html-is-the-new-html5Jan 22 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Windows botnets are used for #DDOS should it not be called #MSDOS (MicroSoft Denial of Service)?Jan 22 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oliver North’s Pre-Trial Conditions For UCMJ Violations Dramatically Different Than Bradley Manning’s http://is.gd/Bf25BJ #torture #us !wlJan 22 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad yes, they said that tooJan 22 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Car Radio Powered by Android. Introduce Your Ride to Some Apps (video) http://is.gd/ySoKmM via @harishpillayJan 22 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @alextootchie: RT @SimonLR: I updated my #N900 accelerometer phone control http://bit.ly/gHUMk3 #linuxJan 22 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @meegoportal RT @alextootchie: Video - qutIM (instant messenger) user interface on Nokia #N900 #Maemo http://t.co/uMonxpV @EugeneDegtyarevJan 22 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz ♺ @meegoportal RT @alextootchie: Video - qutIM (instant messenger) user interface on Nokia #N900 #Maemo http://t.co/uMon ...Jan 22 10:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Vacuum-IM cross-platform !Jabber client which enforces modularity and uses !Qt http://code.google.com/p/vacuum-im/ !xmppJan 22 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu New #Romanian National #Software #Library (public) FORCES users to depend on #Oracle Jinitiator http://tinyurl.com/6e8gx4w #egovtJan 22 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Asher_Wolf Boston Globe || Swedish PM: Assange extradition a judicial matter http://ur1.ca/2yv2x !wikileaks #Assange #LegalCheating?Jan 22 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer As we say in german, if you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to shut up ;-) http://ur1.ca/2z8qn cc @foss ...Jan 22 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The BBC's Nick Robinson can't spell #dictatorship - http://bit.ly/f5V0l2 yes: Blair effectively said yesterday: "I ruled alone, by fiat"Jan 22 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I really get tired of this region locking crap! internet breaks down barriers. we get more globalized, but some companies remain old-fashionJan 22 10:39
oiaohmhttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/22/057227/Last-Days-For-Central-IPv4-Address-Pool  Maybe the end of p2p will be on us.Jan 22 10:39
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oiaohmas a world wide thing.Jan 22 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Watching Blair at the #Chilcot inquiry trying to defend the indefensible. Few people in the country believe a word he says.Jan 22 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera As Blair has already hinted he does not care what anyone thinks as it will be for his god to judge him.Jan 22 10:44
schestowitzoiaohm: where is p2p mentioned in this context?Jan 22 10:45
oiaohmBreaking the world wide internet network into segments.Jan 22 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera it's not just Blair. Just about any country that goes to war uses "divine" excuses. It diverts liability/blame and blocks critics.Jan 22 10:46
oiaohmMost p2p designs are designed with the idea that all machines can basically directly connect between each other.  schestowitzJan 22 10:46
oiaohmIe ISPs only support IPv4 break the internet up from one single number system world wide.  End of world wide p2pJan 22 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb @satipera the people who count do, ie the toffs who write the history books. They like to protect their ownJan 22 10:47
schestowitzoiaohm: but there is still direct addressingJan 22 10:48
schestowitzI can send you 0s and 1s regardless of which port and protocolJan 22 10:48
oiaohmBreak the ip numbers up only have direct addressing inside that zoneJan 22 10:48
oiaohmI hit enter in the wrong place.Jan 22 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Deities are not real estate agents, they don't have "favourite" children, and we only know of many "Gods of war" http://is.gd/hIVjTJJan 22 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] if you're going to ask for help, don't be a disrespectful asswad when I give you an answer. Fuck.Jan 22 10:49
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oiaohmMaybe the end of p2p will be on us as a world wide thing.  schestowitzJan 22 10:49
oiaohmIe regon by regon p2pJan 22 10:49
schestowitzThere is no end of p2pJan 22 10:49
schestowitzp2p is not a protocol per seJan 22 10:49
schestowitzIt's what you do when you load a site too, with just 2 peersJan 22 10:50
schestowitzAs long as you can connect from one node to another, p2p staysJan 22 10:50
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oiaohmWithout direct addressing connection from one node to another become tricker.Jan 22 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @kirschner ♻ @maelle: 110 bugs solved in Italy for #pdfreaders http://is.gd/YkGYXt !! Thanks LUG Scandiano !Jan 22 10:51
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oiaohmIt can force server side routing to get between nodes.Jan 22 10:51
oiaohmSo introducing attackable weakpoints.Jan 22 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix context?Jan 22 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @schestowitz irc support for some dork who's been trying to cull down deps for no reason in particular.Jan 22 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @schestowitz but he wanted a "plasma pro"'s opinion rather than the actual answer i gave him.Jan 22 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: v.interesting research: #internet now deeply embedded in group/organizational life in US http://bit.ly/hHqJv9Jan 22 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Francis Ford Coppola On Art, Copying And File Sharing: We Want You To Take From Us - http://bit.ly/e0xpGE great stuffJan 22 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Oh, it's that cool video game of the PS3. :DJan 22 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Global Warming Policy Foundation donor funding levels revealed http://is.gd/n74Smf #GlobalWarmingJan 22 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] New #HTML5 logo looks completely designed by comittee. Lacks elegance and ugly as hell. Intents to create uniform across W3C standards.Jan 22 11:06
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gnufreexZdnet trolls are screwing Florian Mueller left and right. Even those proMicrosoft ones. Fun to watch.Jan 22 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Who cares? New #HTML5 is just a logo, and I never used an HTML logo anyways (though I used the html compliance logo with link to validator).Jan 22 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] LOL ♺ @schestowitz: When Windows botnets are used for #DDOS should it not be called #MSDOS (MicroSoft Denial of Service)?Jan 22 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing the latest #Kubuntu #Natty daily ISO...Jan 22 11:12
schestowitzgnufreex: where? Ed?Jan 22 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody File-Sharing Operators Hit W/ Big Fines,Jail Sentences http://bit.ly/fUUdik disproportionate punishment compared to real crimesJan 22 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Installed #Ubuntu 10.10 from scratch on my main desktop. That'll keep me busy for a couple of hours :-) Promised myself 2011 to be MS-Free!Jan 22 11:14
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gnufreexNo, troll types, usual fanboys.Jan 22 11:14
gnufreexNot editors schestowitzJan 22 11:14
oiaohmAt some point trolls had to start publicky attacking selfs.Jan 22 11:16
gnufreexlolJan 22 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !spurs vs Newcastle today live streaming !football http://www.livescorehunter.com/live-streaming-video-football/Jan 22 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks Thriller Headed to Big Screen http://is.gd/qVz4F2 Trailer? http://is.gd/oXsnUMJan 22 11:17
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oiaohmNow I am hopeing for Florian Mueller to be shupid enough to shot back.Jan 22 11:18
gnufreexschestowitz: I though you mean Ed Bought. But if you though Ed Burnette, then yes, he is trying to reason with Florian madman Mueller. He wrote that article anyways.Jan 22 11:20
schestowitzWait for Bought to help FlorryJan 22 11:21
schestowitzThey speak on Twitter a lotJan 22 11:21
schestowitzAnd link to each otherJan 22 11:21
schestowitzI call it Club MicrosoftJan 22 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz This I would pay to watch.Jan 22 11:22
gnufreexlol, that will be funJan 22 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you care about #Linux winning soon (in desktops too), support Google in its fight against #swpats and #mobbyists who attack #androidJan 22 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I reckon it would be biased. Maybe they'll cast Gibson as #AssangeJan 22 11:24
oiaohmBoy the brisbane Linux conf is really is starting to get on nerve.Jan 22 11:28
gnufreexwhyJan 22 11:28
oiaohmanother change.Jan 22 11:28
oiaohmand its under 24 hours until I leave from here.Jan 22 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner @fabsh That worries me. Chrome/Chromium is getting a lot of exclusive extensions lately. I use at least 4 that have no FF versionsJan 22 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner @fabsh I reckon that, when it comes to Web browsers, we need to support #mozilla and !kde - I don't trust Apple, Google, & MicrosoftJan 22 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Jesse Eisenberg I would not like to see as Assange, not at all. Harrison Ford would be good, but he's too old. Gary Oldman ?Jan 22 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz @silner I don't chose my browser by ideology. It's a tool and one that I use *a lot* so I chose my browser for quality.Jan 22 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Piracy Horrors &The Music Industry’s Twisted Reality http://bit.ly/gj99Kr "why doesn’t the report mention Spotify as a reason?"Jan 22 11:32
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gnufreexIt is depresingly sad that this Florian FUD was copy of another FUD from few months ago. He didn't bother to make his own FUD. He just took other persons research and added crazy sweaping claims and soundbites. Sad person.Jan 22 11:32
oiaohmgnufreex: most critically its transport to the event.  gnufreexJan 22 11:34
gnufreexYou mean, they changed city?Jan 22 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Key Myth That Drives Bad Policy: Stronger IP Laws Mean More Creativity http://is.gd/iRdzRN *exactly* the oppositeJan 22 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz The guy from the Bourne movies, Matt Damon. He would do good. And, since it's kinda a spy flick, it would be perfect.Jan 22 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Having more monopolies drives prices down. There. I said it. /sarcasmJan 22 11:34
gnufreexOr place in city?Jan 22 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith oh, I had to look that one up http://is.gd/RNoT6gJan 22 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh its effect on your freedom may not matter to you until a later dateJan 22 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Yeah, Damon. And he too shares the same mindset as #Assange IMHO. See http://is.gd/cGmfpW & http://is.gd/9km5gOJan 22 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I don't really worry about freedom in the browser space right now. There are areas more worthy of attention at the moment.Jan 22 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh that may be trueJan 22 11:37
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62725234Jan 22 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Dave Lee (thelovebug)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 11:34:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How does browser choice affect your freedom? Other than web standards adjusting to the most popularly used browser, of course.Jan 22 11:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62725269Jan 22 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 11:35:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @thelovebug yes, you answered the question you've just asked ;-)Jan 22 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: As Expected, !Microsoft Breeds !Patent Cartels to Fight Against Linux http://techrights.org/2011/01/22/microsoft-offshoots-vs-linux/Jan 22 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Running 2.6.38-0.rc1.git1.1.fc15.x86_64 (Fedora scratch build by @kylem) nowJan 22 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yeah, just dye his hair white, and, voilá, Instant Assange! Produced by Tim Robbins & directed by Michael Moore. Blockbuster!Jan 22 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: T-Mobile's Galaxy S Vibrant Getting Froyo Now http://tinyurl.com/65ogucjJan 22 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the latest !LO. It's slow work which is all my fault since I screwed the recording... /(Jan 22 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Alex Roman's astonishingly hyper-real #CGI animation http://bit.ly/fQKEEi incredible: high art, even if it's an ad for kitchensJan 22 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith yupJan 22 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black." - Henry FordJan 22 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Arrrrgh! :X http://i.imgur.com/snAKO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/snAKO.jpgJan 22 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rysiek #diaspora time! ♻ @telecomix: Facebook has just recently shut down the page for Union of Arab bloggers http://is.gd/6sdYRFJan 22 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #facebook #censorship is nothing new. http://is.gd/mr2KaPJan 22 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner re "Pingfm shortenings are playing me up again :(" I used #Pingfm a lot, then used "Connect" option in Identi.ca. Check it out.Jan 22 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Tony Blair used to lie for Britain now he is lying to save what little is left of his reputation.Jan 22 11:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62725730Jan 22 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Dave Lee (thelovebug)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 11:47:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ok, I'll admit that I'm not aware of that.Jan 22 11:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62725344Jan 22 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Dave Lee (thelovebug)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 11:37:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ok, I'll give you that :o) But with Webkit, Gecko & Trident being cases in point, most people are moving FROM (closed) Trident.Jan 22 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Blair tries to qualify his infamous no regrets about Iraq statement, several people in audience heard to say "It is too late"Jan 22 11:52
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62725824Jan 22 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Azlan (azzorcist)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 11:50:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I use Chromium browser on Linux and Iron browser on Windows.Jan 22 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maha/@maha] Seen in Berlin: !Wikileaks monument http://twitpic.com/3sbfovJan 22 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Another really annoying thing UK politicians do is use "I want to clear" and "Let's be clear" as a prelude to prevaricationJan 22 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner "I want to clear, moving forward we shall restore stability to the region by sending our defence forces for aid & democracy" ;-)Jan 22 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Ubuntu-powered tablet appears http://is.gd/llFT34 excellent. More !gnu and #linux out there.Jan 22 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #deact copyright infringement notification system - http://bit.ly/i7LdTy *still* parroting debunked figures from industryJan 22 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is #RedHat openwashing Internet malware? http://is.gd/wn47V5 #facebookJan 22 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fedora RT @bill_mcgonigle I love that every time I upgrade my @fedora machines they get faster and faster! // Glad to hear it Bill!Jan 22 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm HT: "Harper violated ‘spirit’ of Commons rules over using his Prime Minister's Hill office in Tory ad" http://ur1.ca/2yyymJan 22 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz ♺ @satipera Tony Blair used to lie for Britain now he is lying to save what little is left of his reputation.Jan 22 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] from the company that brought you the mouse for people with one finger, or mittens on http://bit.ly/fIoaj3 new complex mouse patentsJan 22 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] webmasters who set their video or audio to autoplay should be digitally shotJan 22 12:06
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/azzorcist/status/28781561285443584Jan 22 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr@azzorcist: @schestowitz I use Chromium browser on Linux and Iron browser on Windows.Jan 22 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IFPI: Fighting music piracy is a government job http://is.gd/ZxuM8j "that solution will be taxpayer-funded." #lol #mafiaaJan 22 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] People who deny the GNU in Linux could also deny the holocaust. It's the same white washing thing.Jan 22 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm "right to fundamental liberty of !privacy & the right to share culture"~Rick Falkvinge !q ...[...] http://ur1.ca/2yz0sJan 22 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @exiledsurfer http://ur1.ca/2yz6a "I enjoy crushing bastards" - #Assange quote sighted in #malware < can blame anything on JA !wikileaksJan 22 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter ♺ @thetecheye: Google and NetApp make top ten in best places to work - Intel and MSFT bring up the rear http://bit.ly/f2sGjeJan 22 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] G20 officer: ‘This ain’t Canada right now’ http://is.gd/buGKox Mussolini must be giggling in his graveJan 22 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @trashbird1240 ♺ @swathe: ♺ @heeed: Sod the olympics, new series of Red Dwarf confirmed for 2012: http://is.gd/il6Hqz // #RedDwarf #ftwJan 22 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] The Dutch !ubuntu mirror servers are clearly down :-( Can't install additional software on the desktop. Never happened before.Jan 22 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @carwinb Three reasons why WikiLeaks is dangerous to corporations !WikiLeaks #Assange !Cablegate wlcentral.org/node/1001Jan 22 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith equating systematic mass murder / ethnic cleansing with inclusion of code in programs? Do you expect to be taken seriously?Jan 22 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Microblogging can take a while to figure out, but I have to say I am consistently amazed & impressed by the people...Jan 22 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @robmyers: @reality: O R'lyeh?Jan 22 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Who cares about #DLD11 in the world of Open Source, Free Software and Open Standards? Exactly. Noone.Jan 22 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big Music 2011 report: Get The Kids! http://is.gd/DuXWoG #children #propaganda #mafiaa #disinformation #indoctrinationJan 22 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb The white washing is the same. People who don't want GNU in Linux should also forget what happened in 39 to 45 to the jewish.Jan 22 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb And besides, you got the idea.Jan 22 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The schools are a vehicle to brainwash a lot of kids at taxpayers' expense. Wonder not why @BillGates is trying to hijack the edu. system.Jan 22 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sitting alone at my desk, editing a podcast. Story of my life.Jan 22 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When state schools are run privately by private venturists, then it's time to rebel against them and consider the Web as "school 2.0" #wwwJan 22 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Baking' children's minds to adapt to a status quo rather than allowing this future generation to set status quo is a recipe for disasterJan 22 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith so you don't want to be taken seriously thenJan 22 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fabsh Oh god..... Here goes @fauxpatents again, spewing FUD like there is no tomorrow.... // #mobbyists #android c/f http://is.gd/k2InbdJan 22 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz will take time to overcome perceptions that the agenda is merely "to sell more #Windows", as we wd have thought 10-20 yrs agoJan 22 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb No, but saying @RMS is a zealot and now, useless old man, it's the same to say That mustachy man did no wrong in his time.Jan 22 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz specifically, a recipe for "more disaster"Jan 22 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb I believe you got the idea now.Jan 22 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith choosing emotive and unconnected events to make your point means you do the same as your detractorsJan 22 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz Uhm.... I realise that was a joke, but please don't change links when you redent me. I'd appreciate that.Jan 22 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Article 138 Complaint http://is.gd/8dXOGh "PFC Manning... is held in solitary confinement." #freebrad #patriot !wikileaksJan 22 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh oh, sorry for the "fauxpatents" part... couldn't resistJan 22 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith if GNU gets forgotten about who dies? NobodyJan 22 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country. Sorry About That"// #SCOny #mafiaaJan 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz next thing will be a suitcase filled with evidence, just as in good ole SCO times. Gregory Blepp returns ;-)Jan 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb Connection is: the propaganda to erase the past is the same. And now, they belittle GNU and @RMS . I, 4 one, don´ t like thatJan 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Pre-emptive punishment—it's uncivilised &contra rule of Law; so naturally US does it all the time. Drones,invasions,torture,etcJan 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera "One day all code will be free" listening to planet b on radio, author a secret FLOSS supporter :-)Jan 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz No harm done, just pointing that out. It's the literature student in me. ;)Jan 22 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb And then Linux goes corporate ? Perhaps us as a community, would die. I'm not against Linux in prime time, just don'tJan 22 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith copying their tactics while complaining about them smacks of hypocrisy, which saps your credibility and your messageJan 22 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb Forget its true nature. Sharing, helping others and building better software. And a better society as a side effectJan 22 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Is this guy getting payed by Microsoft? Why is he doing this crap? For fame? OoJan 22 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @webmink At Campus Party, just about to join the attempt on the world record for a crowd wearing bath robes...Jan 22 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 the country does not respect the UN, all alone the international law or Geneva conventionJan 22 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Free Software #TETRA demodulator/phy/mac layer project is now public: http://tetra.osmocom.org/Jan 22 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb I think not. Indeed, an analogy that may well reflect what happens. But, it's not me who made this. It was already here.Jan 22 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz There's a pattern of manipulating the UN to lend false legitimacy to imperialism. The rest of the time they ignore it. #iraqJan 22 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer for me, the answer was already given in http://is.gd/2mcMXK #lobbyists #microsoft #swpats #android #dontaskdonttellJan 22 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith wow, seems GNU "is" community, whoodathunkit, it's as true as "a PC is Windows"Jan 22 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb We just have to point this out, so others can realize the dangers of neglecting GNU and Linux history.Jan 22 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola Getting Nicer to Android ROM Devs and Rooters? http://is.gd/PlPaGZ also see http://is.gd/JkcHP6 #android #linuxJan 22 12:56
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*ziggyfish may get a cyclone in a few daysJan 22 12:57
schestowitzcool!Jan 22 12:57
schestowitzIs that a real one?Jan 22 12:57
ziggyfishschestowitz: yesJan 22 12:57
schestowitzOr a phone mode;?Jan 22 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Motorola is the only firm which fights Microsoft #swpats racketeering to defend #android and #linux - now can do better http://is.gd/dUM8BOJan 22 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HTC smartphone profits rise 160% http://is.gd/U99s2d sadly, #HTC shares #Android & #Linux profits with Ballmer and his racketeers. #ballnuxJan 22 12:57
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schestowitzSo that kind of sucksJan 22 12:57
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ziggyfishschestowitz: a real oneJan 22 12:57
ziggyfishhttp://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/4day_col.shtmlJan 22 12:58
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schestowitzhttp://www.blackberryforums.com/rumor-mill/63539-verizon-launch-blackberry-cyclone-world-phone.htmlJan 22 12:58
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schestowitzSorry for loss in translationJan 22 12:58
ziggyfishnpJan 22 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb Indeed, a community is hard to characterize. But the lack of a community is easy: corporate tiranny and customer abuse.Jan 22 12:59
ziggyfishanyway my Australians are loosing the tennis, might go to bed, so I can dream he won, see ya allJan 22 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink World Bath Robe Record, Brazil: http://wmk.me/gqVZrS #toderoupao #cpbr4Jan 22 13:01
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*ziggyfish computer is running cold 38CJan 22 13:01
*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRJan 22 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith people get together without GNU's knowledge or blessing, that will never change regardless of GNU's existenceJan 22 13:02
schestowitzziggyfish: tennis... not a big dealJan 22 13:03
schestowitzPeople should watch this instead http://agimo.govspace.gov.au/2011/01/21/back-to-the-future-another-chance-to-influence-coe-development/Jan 22 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm rt @BlueShoes55 Let's talk about BRADLEY MANNING not Palin. #realpriorities #realissues #FebruaryMANNINGsupportmonthJan 22 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb Just don't forget why the pioneers fought so hard. And still fight. I guess we agree in the message, but not in its medium.Jan 22 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks: US embassy condemned eviction of Kalahari Bushmen http://is.gd/v1YSx3 #cablegate #justiceJan 22 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb It's, just that watching a famous forum pisses me off.Jan 22 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wildcard -"Cosmo, why do they call it a word processor?" -"It's really very simple, Skyler. You've seen what food processors do to food?"Jan 22 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Vint Cerf is already getting plenty of Au media attention: http://goo.gl/4OqIX Just wait until he keynotes at !lca2011Jan 22 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @thistleweb And I have to express my thoughts in that matter.Jan 22 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More !wikileaks cables were released today. Go check 'em out, report on findings. http://cablesearch.org/ #cablegateJan 22 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Congress Wastes No Time Undoing Climate Progress http://is.gd/afzLhS via @glynmoody #climatechange #gopJan 22 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @poissonjensen Why we *might* have a chance with !wikileaks to finally grow out of adolescence. Decency should reign not #corruptionJan 22 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 Last night@dinner I was about to raise the Elmer leak as subject of discussion but got hushed because people hate discussing crimesJan 22 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tom #Flanagan may have broken the Australian laws by inciting for murder of an innocent Australian man who likes "crushing bastards" !wlJan 22 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm @jwildeboer @swadeshine "I am not a number, I am a free man"~ No.06, 'The Prisoner' !q http://ur1.ca/2z2naJan 22 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm the way things are looking,we'll be needing a #2011ManningSupportYear,imo. !wikileaksJan 22 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @maymaym W/ public support for !wl in Australia @SarahPalinUSA may face prosecution there http://n.pr/dJ9uj6 If only USA had guts,not gunsJan 22 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wine 1.3.12 Brings Initial #DOSBox Integration http://is.gd/whATI3 by @phoronixJan 22 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jargon: @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm the way things are looking,we'll be needing a #2011ManningSupportYear,imo. #wikileaks > century?Jan 22 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Too slow to save many millions of lives. #wikileaksJan 22 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner just caught your dents about #Android - well, bear in mind author is a BS artist and #mobbyist , reused smear http://is.gd/RNMU3jJan 22 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz We must ensure that nothing like #Iraq ever happens again. Solemn pledges of Nuremberg are being flouted daily. #torture #warJan 22 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @cyberkiller: @snapl the only way to increase #Vorbis adoption is to use it instead of #mp3 #playoggJan 22 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Toshiba teases #Android Honeycomb tablet http://is.gd/7G3I9k "Toshiba Android Honeycomb tablet will have the four standard Android buttons"Jan 22 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 maybe the Rockefeller Foundation will give !wikileaks a grant ;-)Jan 22 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 Enfield, CT cancels screening of Moore's Sicko after pressure from local government http://ur1.ca/2z3d6Jan 22 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 worse things will comeJan 22 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sun's open source legacy - http://bit.ly/eq04Ys explores a number of important issues that go to the heart of free softwareJan 22 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Michael Moore should do a documentary about #censorship in the West, even blocking benign and life & death subjects //cc @MMflintJan 22 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20 years after Gulf War, architects talk of lessons http://ur1.ca/2z3eo #aggression #intervention #middleeastJan 22 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @BiancaJagger Fortunately leaving Senate seat RT Joe Lieberman Insists Iraq Was Developing WMDs Despite No Evidence http://ow.ly/3I9kqJan 22 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 Harper's #Canada: Doesn't include Toronto //until he needs a $2bln #g20 boondoggle& some beat-up liberals. #cdnpoliJan 22 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Census 2011 still pretending that they will not hand over your Sensitive Personal Data to anyone else - http://bit.ly/htTRZk really seriousJan 22 13:37
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MinceRgeekingsJan 22 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google submits documentation for #VP8 video codec to the IETF - http://bit.ly/gREOVs must go for full standardisationJan 22 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BBC anonymous briefing on Surveillance Orders planned replacement for Control Orders - http://bit.ly/fNfVxZ more bad journalism from #bbcJan 22 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am an optimist.I believe we can change things for the better;many are pessimists - gave up trying 2 improve things,discourage those who doJan 22 13:47
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62728775Jan 22 13:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 13:16:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @jargon at current pace, unleashing all of #cabalegate would take over a decade, make huge impactJan 22 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Debian frees up the #kernel again - http://bit.ly/hsDvzY well done, Deb & Ian... #linuxJan 22 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook Just Landed $1.5B; Open Source Alternative Struggles To Raise $10,000 - http://tcrn.ch/faWTBz The #Appleseed Project, not #diasporaJan 22 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovruni/@ovruni] Denuncian severos maltratos a soldado sospechoso de pasar datos a !Wikileaks : http://ur1.ca/2zaxlJan 22 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Upload 18 Songs In Russia... Face Six Years In Prison - http://bit.ly/eUhZKK #russia joins the disproportionate response club #copyrightJan 22 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz I'm in between: convinced change will occur. But don't think ppl understand what it will take—& 99% don't have stomach for it.Jan 22 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz Specifically: #CHANGE takes more than a vote for the blue-coloured party instead of the red-coloured party.Jan 22 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz (or vice versa, if one is in Canada or Australia) ;-) #cdnpoli Both red and blue pills are sugary placebos. Reject the drug.Jan 22 13:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62728775https://identi.ca/notice/62729939Jan 22 13:57
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Jan 22 13:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62729939Jan 22 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3's status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 13:49:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I'm in between: convinced change will occur. But don't think ppl understand what it will take—& 99% don't have stomach for it.Jan 22 13:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/28802212582916096Jan 22 14:02
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz shouldn't tolerate the tendency of people to deny uncomfortable reality. Unless, I suppose, it's a family dinner. :DJan 22 14:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/28802660127744000Jan 22 14:02
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz I hope Flanagan is arrested, along with Palin, if he tries to visit. Dirty mongrels.Jan 22 14:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/28805742194593794  https://twitter.com/gregmessel/status/28810756426309633Jan 22 14:03
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz and #wikileaks isn't the final instrument, either. It's a perfectly civilised &legal response to a barbaric &outlaw adversary.Jan 22 14:03
TechrightsBot-tr@gregmessel: @schestowitz @biancajagger Liebermans mind was made up abt WMDs don't confuse him with facts. Just in case you were going to miss him...Jan 22 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 so true...Jan 22 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Posted 2011 gig details. Ticket prices and availability to follow, also another 1 more artist - http://ratholeradio.org/gig/Jan 22 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Saline #Linux Review http://is.gd/hHNjW5 "Saline Linux is built on #Debian and features Xfce for its desktop environment."Jan 22 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] RadioTray 0.6.3 Released With Ubuntu AppIndicator Support, Sleep Timer http://bit.ly/e7Q7I4Jan 22 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Perfect PC http://is.gd/G6UNZp "I persevered with the basic Debian/LXDE installation for just over a day."Jan 22 14:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RadioTray 0.6.3 Released With Ubuntu AppIndicator Support, Sleep Timer ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 54.65 KBJan 22 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-01-22/famsco.2011-01-22-13.08.htmlJan 22 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz On some issues (environment,corp criminality),HOW we live is now more imprtnt than a vote; on others (war),protest more imprtntJan 22 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz partly that is bc value of a vote has been intentionally diluted to almost zero &partly bc some issues REQUIRE lifestyle changeJan 22 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @arnebab You know you are working too much in !emacs when you hit C-c C-c to send an identi.ca post in #choqok ;) !kdeJan 22 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] u know who should be rotting in solitary? gw bush,cheney,rumsfeld & blair. that's who! !wikileaksJan 22 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://www.groklaw.net/ appears to be down ATMJan 22 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 *precisely* - the vote has been reduced to some tickbox which has no effect on configuration but acts as a sort of placeboJan 22 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ha! I knew they would do that soon! ♻ @claudiom: #Google submits #VP8 draft to #IETF. Go Google GO! :-) ur1.ca/2zbbsJan 22 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache Pivot 2.0 http://is.gd/T33QL4 #asf #fossJan 22 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache Pivot 2.0  : The Apache Software Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 25.92 KBJan 22 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former Oracle® MySQL® Customers Drive SkySQL Sales to Seven Figures in Its First Twelve Weeks http://is.gd/zLQEo8 #scoracle #mysql #skysqlJan 22 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former Oracle(R) MySQL(R) Customers Drive SkySQL Sales to Seven Figures in Its First Twelve Weeks .::. Size~: 26.31 KBJan 22 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks given data on Swiss bank accounts http://is.gd/CJbYbh I expected the #MSBBC to cover this badly, it does OK actually (this time)Jan 22 14:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Wikileaks given data on Swiss bank accounts .::. Size~: 72.53 KBJan 22 14:47
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Jan-21.htmlJan 22 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adult Principles, from JPBarlow - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 17.41 KBJan 22 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @RuiSeabra ... That's the legal opinion of several lawyers, and I've yet to see a #Canonical statement that there's no #mono #swpat trap.Jan 22 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @NixiePixel: DRM-Free RPGs is the way to be! http://bit.ly/e14Cq7 (and they're cheap, too ^.^ ) !fs RPG: http://www.ryzom.com/Jan 22 14:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Impulse Driven : Publishers : Atari  .::. Size~: 39.83 KBJan 22 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh: Should we be expecting !lo hosted by chipmunks?Jan 22 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 No. @methoddan made a local recording of the Skype call, which doesn't sound half bad. I'm using that now.Jan 22 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 We would never release an episode that we deemed not listenable. Me and @methoddan are very particular that way...Jan 22 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #GNU #Linux : What's your favorite audio player? http://is.gd/GYIKOa my current favourite #minirok not listed http://is.gd/XXtivOJan 22 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux : What's your favorite audio player? http://is.gd/GYIKOa my current favourite #minirok not listed http://is.gd/XXtivOJan 22 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's your favorite audio player? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 94.81 KBJan 22 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody BBC anonymous briefing on Surveillance Orders planned replacement for Control Orders - http://bit.ly/fNfVxZ more bad journ ...Jan 22 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC anonymous briefing on Surveillance Orders planned replacement for Control Orders - Spy Blog - SpyBlog.org.uk .::. Size~: 137.76 KBJan 22 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HTC planning three Android tablets, starting in 2Q http://is.gd/1u6iFY Apple has just one and it's overpriced, over-restricted. #linuxJan 22 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HTC planning three Android tablets, starting in 2Q - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.59 KBJan 22 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: ♺ @laurelrusswurm @jwildeboer @swadeshine "I am not a number, I am a free man"~ No.06, 'The Prisoner' http://ur1.ca/2z2naJan 22 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Rewe - Heerstraße http://ur1.ca/2s312 #4sqJan 22 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TanyaHuff: Once again blizard at my house, 7k down the road sunshine. Location. Location. Location.Jan 22 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xoom wins huge pre-orders as Asus denies Eee Pad slippage http://is.gd/1DcBI1 #linux #tabletJan 22 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CalculateLinux 11.0 released http://is.gd/Icr39zJan 22 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Re undercover spy, suspect that's only the beginning, in other words, he's not the only one... #g8 #g20Jan 22 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TanyaHuff: Memo to self: make it clear whose finger is being licked. #amwritingJan 22 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @MeaganTrush: New blog posts: I am Canadian..? http://ow.ly/3IfRn #cdnpoliJan 22 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 422 a reunion at the Puckered Fig. http://bit.ly/dzfcLY #weblit #webfic #fantasy #readingJan 22 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Beautiful Dark #Atolm #GTK Theme Gets a PPA, Makes it Easy to Install in #Ubuntu http://is.gd/WulsYh http://is.gd/KOUcrW #gnomeJan 22 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @karinlow: Do we like 'em weird? Of course we do. We're writers. Weird is our stock n' trade. http://twitpic.com/3s7w4hJan 22 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] #Marble the virtual globe and world atlas as reached v1.0 if it's already installed just update otherwise http://is.gd/icY0yv #N900Jan 22 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Degen digs deeper into desperate denunciation disguised as debate http://bit.ly/ibftoMJan 22 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @MeaganTrush: "That is SO un-Canadian" diatribe: http://ow.ly/3IgG6 #cdnpoliJan 22 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cooking dinner now. #pasta #meat #winJan 22 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck. Missing an ingredient. And back to the shop I go....Jan 22 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] US Congress honours 9/11 First Capitalizers ur1.ca/2xrh0 #theonionJan 22 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I need a #wiki with math and a good calendar; !mediawiki has !TeX but does another wiki have a better calendar? Any suggestions?Jan 22 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Authoritarian Governments Have Immensely Benefited From The Web,' Author Says - http://bit.ly/dSl214 good interview with @evgenymorozovJan 22 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Authoritarian governments have immensely benefited from the web. We agree: http://is.gd/E2BTkQ !wlJan 22 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !spurs vs newcastle 10 mins to half time 0 - 0 :(Jan 22 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights mentioned in #china http://is.gd/ETGgu3Jan 22 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EMC、IBM、HP以及SAP脱离BSA_袁萌_新浪博客 .::. Size~: 50.6 KBJan 22 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Washington's latest smear against WikiLeaks presence in Sweden: http://is.gd/GkXp3u !wlJan 22 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Defoe's gaol drought continues !spurs !footballJan 22 15:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks | File-sharing networks may hold the key .::. Size~: 129.48 KBJan 22 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #YouTube became the place to go for music on the Web - http://bit.ly/fCoeEr not to mention #TV... #musicJan 22 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Music Bay: Pirate Bay Crew Instill More Fear Into The Music Industry - http://bit.ly/i9xXGR serious threat of early April Fool?Jan 22 15:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    The Music Bay: Pirate Bay Crew Instill More Fear Into The Music Industry | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 34.88 KBJan 22 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parents who won't vaccinate their kids should pay higher insurance premiums - http://bit.ly/hAs7R2 pigeons, meet cat #vaccinationJan 22 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !football !spurs vs newcastle 0-0 Half-Time #cupofteaJan 22 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Parents who won't vaccinate their kids should pay higher insurance premiums - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 43.94 KBJan 22 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Very good first half there from !Manutd more of the same pleaseJan 22 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @libreofficeuservol Five tips for migrating from Microsoft Office to !LibreOffice http://bit.ly/i2WecG !productivityJan 22 15:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Five tips for migrating from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice | Five Tips  | TechRepublic.com  .::. Size~: 61.41 KBJan 22 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/1/2011: More Android Tablets, Tor 0.2.1.29 Released http://is.gd/hwH96K !techrightsJan 22 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @stemp Nice !android boot screen : http://ur1.ca/2zbbuJan 22 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Second try. This time I have the ham.... #cooking #tortelliniJan 22 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I have to suspect that the book "Half Truths" is a pre-general election fear-mongering by the PAP aka LKY via SPH. Clever really clever. #fbJan 22 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Yay! " Giggsy " is trending on twitter !mufcJan 22 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 22/1/2011: More Android Tablets, Tor 0.2.1.29 Released http://is.gd/hwH96KJan 22 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Palin & other US politicians to be prosecuted for incitement http://is.gd/W65PaT !wlJan 22 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Best newcastle vs !spurs stream http://www.directon.tv/channels/2044/ag1tv !footballJan 22 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks lawyer vows to prosecute Palin if she goes to Australia: Alaska Newsreader | adn.com .::. Size~: 59.55 KBJan 22 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Great goal from Berba from the hattrick. !MufcJan 22 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Not very impressed with Pienaar this game. !spursJan 22 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] This ref is a newcastle fan!!! !spurs !footballJan 22 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Goal to the geordies :( !spurs !footballJan 22 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eloquence holy free culture win, batman! US gov't will award $2B(!) in education grants with all intellectual outputs under CC-BY. h ...Jan 22 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Finally! Ref gives a fowl against newcastle. pffft!Jan 22 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wikileaks2 Palin & other US politicians to be prosecuted for incitement http://is.gd/W65PaT !wikileaks #assassination > #Flanagan too?Jan 22 16:26
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gnufreexschestowitz: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/f6pvx/oops_no_copied_java_code_or_weapons_of_mass/Jan 22 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android : linux .::. Size~: 107.82 KBJan 22 16:28
gnufreexCraze all over. by few shillsJan 22 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lennon! Soooo close. !spursJan 22 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Morning !identiverse <and yes I'm still sick, maybe worse.... don't want to talk about it>Jan 22 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh yeah... Love me some Radeberger! http://ur1.ca/2zc33Jan 22 16:29
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gnufreexI didn't know that Florian Mueller has fansJan 22 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Posting from my fresh installed #ubuntu 10.10!!! Canonical Killed Micoshaft Crockporation Windummy OSen today @ml2mst for good, Doh! :-pJan 22 16:31
schestowitzThey are not fansJan 22 16:38
schestowitzI know some of the usernamesJan 22 16:38
schestowitzThey are anti-Linux trolls from USENETJan 22 16:39
schestowitzThey also promote MonoJan 22 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Finally nani with fifth :) !mufcJan 22 16:39
schestowitz"Meh who cares. Windows mobile owns them all lol"Jan 22 16:40
schestowitzKa-Ching! Ballmer drops a coinJan 22 16:41
gnufreexYeah, I know some of them too. Usually disgusted people send me link with anti-FLOSS garbage they saw.Jan 22 16:41
gnufreexAnd it is usually written by some of those.Jan 22 16:41
gnufreexLike for example that Zekopeko dude, he seems to be assigend spinmester for Ubuntu community. OMGbuntu, UF, and Reddit.Jan 22 16:42
gnufreex*spin doctorJan 22 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Sick of this Ref! Gives a foul for every little tickle on Newcastle and nothing for !spurs when they get fouled. !footballJan 22 16:42
gnufreexJason from The-Source refuted him pretty badly few times.Jan 22 16:43
schestowitzZekopeko I know.... known trollJan 22 16:48
schestowitzAnti-LinuxJan 22 16:48
gnufreexHe pretends to be Ubuntu commuity version of Florian Mueller. FM on lower level.Jan 22 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Yet another fowl denied! F*cking nuseless Ref! !spursJan 22 16:49
gnufreexUsually concentrates on Mono, patent FUD, attacking techrights, gently putting down FSF (so he doesn't come across as hater).Jan 22 16:50
gnufreexWhen someone sees through, then zealot slur.Jan 22 16:50
gnufreexIt is pretty crazy what few google serches tells you abotu those mobbyists.Jan 22 16:51
gnufreexYou would think they would hide better.Jan 22 16:52
gnufreexBut that is not the point.Jan 22 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Eff off brum city. Since you don't know what offside isJan 22 16:52
gnufreexThey want to be seen, so they can attack those who expose them. Call them "zealots" or haters.Jan 22 16:53
gnufreexThey would brobably be reading this, but who cares.Jan 22 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] GOALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! !spursJan 22 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Funny how #KFC has this #ApeEscape promotion in #China while nobody knows the actual game: http://is.gd/guMZQ9 http://is.gd/bF4NQU #gameJan 22 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 买新年套餐得比波猴挂饰一款 .::. Size~: 0.73 KBJan 22 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @eloquence holy free culture win, batman! US gov't will award $2B(!) in education grants with all intellectual outputs under CC-BY. h ...Jan 22 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] newcastle !spurs Full Time 1-1 !footballJan 22 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @rysiek ha! I knew they would do that soon! ♻ @claudiom: #Google submits #VP8 draft to #IETF. Go Google GO! :-) ur1.ca/2zbbsJan 22 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Please take this survey: "FOSS for Sustainable Development Survey (FOSSDeva)" http://ur1.ca/2zcff #fbJan 22 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] “What on Earth is Happening to The Economist These Days?”-- @glynmoody http://is.gd/HUb6VMJan 22 17:11
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schestowitzgnufreex: zealots LOLJan 22 17:11
schestowitzMeaning "too much the opposite of me"Jan 22 17:12
schestowitzIMHO, Microsoft are zealotsJan 22 17:12
schestowitzThey hate s/w freedom so much that they attack those who promote itJan 22 17:12
gnufreexAgreed, Microsoft is most zealous company ever.Jan 22 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “What on Earth is Happening to The Economist These Days?” http://is.gd/HUb6VM #TheEconomist #swpats #whitewash #patent //cc @Joe_MullinJan 22 17:12
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gnufreexThey are like a church.Jan 22 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @peterb No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM http://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webmJan 22 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @appleseedproj "We are in the AOL days of Social Networking" Great essay from our friends at #buddycloud http://goo.gl/IC7JQ #opensou ...Jan 22 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Gaat nu de UTP kapel loskoppelen. Cross my fingers ;-)Jan 22 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No double standards: supporting Google's push for WebM — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.91 KBJan 22 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fairvotewrc/@fairvotewrc] Ambassador Crosbie discusses #ElectoralReform - but not for Canada http://ur1.ca/2zcia #10KABUL672 !wikileaks #cablegateJan 22 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An Open-Source GLES Driver For Samsung's Galaxy GPU: Embedded Linux GPU driver support is a great big mess. Ther... http://bit.ly/eSGZ6AJan 22 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Gentoo-Based Calculate Linux 11 Has Arrived: Version 11.0 of Calculate Linux has been released. This release... http://bit.ly/hVlu6UJan 22 17:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] An Open-Source GLES Driver For Samsung's Galaxy GPU .::. Size~: 17.85 KBJan 22 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 2.6.38-rc2 http://lwn.net/Articles/424208/rssJan 22 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Government Procurement Should Exclude Patents-riddled ‘Standards’ http://is.gd/Tf7E49 #egov #patent #procurement #microsoftJan 22 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Government Procurement Should Exclude Patents-riddled ‘Standards’ http://is.gd/Tf7E49 #swpats #ooxml #odf #australiaJan 22 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: #Government Procurement Should Exclude Patents-riddled ‘Standards’ http://is.gd/Tf7E49 #swpats #ooxml #odf #australiaJan 22 17:41
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gnufreexschestowitz: It seems that Ed Bought already weighted in http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/android-os-bombshell-did-google-illegally-lift-copyrighted-code/2892?tag=mantle_skin;contentJan 22 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCO , #CPTN , and #UNIX http://is.gd/R01pIM #novell #attachmsft #swpats #scoJan 22 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #SCO , #CPTN , and #UNIX http://is.gd/R01pIM #novell #attachmsft #swpats #sco !linuxJan 22 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, after saying I'd be doing Drupal screencasts, I now have 2 lined up to go, and possibly a 3rd by the end of this eveningJan 22 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @kady The robot responsible for talking points has keener grasp of the line btwn party and office than at least one PMO staffer #cdnpoliJan 22 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @kady Personally, I'm ready to support the Bot's candidacy as the next ethics commissioner #cdnpoli !Canada #digitaleconomyJan 22 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @remixtures: RT @thomasbonte: "Send us your alexa ranking or google trends instead of your business plan" dixit Saul Klein...Jan 22 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sore throat makes speaking hurt; doesn't stop me messing around w/ wordpress themes home version code MwahHaHaHa #feelthepowerJan 22 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mayor nixes illegal casino plan on land reserved for biotech after learning it's hard to keep a $500m project secret http://ur1.ca/2zd1jJan 22 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] There's one thing you should know about me: I've specialized in a very specific type of exploration: Subconscious explorationJan 22 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Avenged Sevenfold - Strength of the WorldJan 22 18:57
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/62739434Jan 22 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Hoang Xuan Phu (phunehehe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 17:46:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I wonder what you do when you are not pushing up notices on !Identica :)Jan 22 19:18
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/62742799Jan 22 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jan-11 19:16:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @phunehehe moments ago I returned from a one-hour run with a friendJan 22 19:19
schestowitz"Jan 22 19:20
schestowitzFarm Report Just In:Jan 22 19:20
schestowitzChickens taste better, say panel of cows.Jan 22 19:20
schestowitz"Jan 22 19:20
schestowitzhttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1957268&cid=34928706Jan 22 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just trying !Gwibber 2.91.3 - This is really stripped down - Only Facebook Twitter and Identica left - hhmmm...Jan 22 19:27
gnufreexHumm... why those Redmond thughs keep trying?Jan 22 19:28
gnufreexThey really think they are going to convince anyone?Jan 22 19:28
MinceRthey're desperateJan 22 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I just got an email from !unc IT: "IT folks" are glad to be moving away from !fs. He assured me they could protect me from viruses -- ha!Jan 22 19:29
MinceRand their shills probably even more soJan 22 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] trying out !moinmoinJan 22 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...closed source partisans like Mueller" http://is.gd/xMIXf1 that's an understatement, the man is a #mobbyistJan 22 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sorry, New York Times, LED Lights for Your Teeth is an Old Canadian Fashion http://ur1.ca/2zdfv !Canada #wordfashionleader ?Jan 22 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Florian Mueller, who by the way is neither a lawyer nor a developer although he plays one on TV." http://is.gd/tkwGGr Like Jon Zuck.Jan 22 19:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=1 "[PJ: So, my question is this: is Facebook a US company in a real sense? If you are a US person, to whom are you giving all your personal information? No matter who you share with in your Facebook settings, Facebook has it all.]"Jan 22 19:40
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gnufreexCheck this out http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110120171030983&title=More%20F[redacted]%20[M[redacted]&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=897184#c897392Jan 22 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Sony’s solution for root key hack? – Is a more open system really that bad? http://tinyurl.com/62y47n5 !ps3 !sony !playstation3Jan 22 19:52
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MinceRniceJan 22 19:53
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_Goblinhi allJan 22 19:54
MinceRhayJan 22 19:55
schestowitzgnufreex: yes, it's a real dilemmaJan 22 19:55
schestowitzBarbara and I used to speak about him, I think ignoring would be bad cause if nobody exposed him, there would be nothing saying the truthJan 22 19:55
schestowitzHe wins either wayJan 22 19:55
schestowitz_Goblin: ready to record? ;-)Jan 22 19:56
_Goblinlol....Jan 22 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #googlereader: grrrrrrrr dear google why can't i use BCC in google reader? it's really annoying!!!Jan 22 19:56
_Goblinwho are we talking about btw?Jan 22 19:56
_Goblinive joined in the conversation half way throughJan 22 19:56
schestowitzThe FMtrollJan 22 19:56
schestowitzI have another post about FMtroll comingJan 22 19:56
_GoblinFM?Jan 22 19:56
_GoblinahJan 22 19:56
_GoblinI seeJan 22 19:56
schestowitzF* maniacJan 22 19:56
gnufreexFlagrant MisdirectionJan 22 19:57
gnufreexFuhrer MouthheadJan 22 19:58
_GoblinHavent spoken to him muchJan 22 19:58
_Goblinhe's always been polite so I havent really got anything to say about him.Jan 22 19:59
schestowitzHe'd call for the whistle using Godwin's lawJan 22 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Shameful confession: Playing the original LBP on PS3 for the first time...surprisingly good! Wife bought it ex-rental for a couple of quid.Jan 22 19:59
schestowitz_Goblin: that's his gameJan 22 19:59
schestowitzSchmoozing journalistsJan 22 19:59
schestowitzBut he's attacking me along with the crazed stalkersJan 22 19:59
_Goblinah....Im not a journalist so Im safe!Jan 22 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #friendfeed search working....and fast! we are closer to 2012....that explains a lot!Jan 22 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ueeeebaaaa!!! Aprendi a usar o Subtitle Editor 0.37.1 !!!Jan 22 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 109 dents!Jan 22 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Woooohoooo!!! I've learned how to use Subtitle Editor 0.37.1 !!!Jan 22 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The bell tolls for ACS:Law? 24th of January is rapidly approaching....Jan 22 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android tablet boom http://is.gd/PlkumZ will #hypePad go "boom"? Some already explodeJan 22 20:09
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_GoblinWhat to do......Jan 22 20:10
_Goblingot to get show notes done on the new site....Jan 22 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Microsoft sees Android taking over the mobile market. Florian Mueller produces "evidence" on Android and Oracle. Coincidence?Jan 22 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think its time to sort out the show notes on the new !techbytes site. Wait until you see it, its great!Jan 22 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 6 of the Best Free Linux Digital Forensics Tools http://is.gd/5RiDvR you know what #linux did last summerJan 22 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer http://is.gd/1m5FKo imho, best not to feed #mobbyists directlyJan 22 20:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Smartphone watch http://is.gd/f8wQRq predominantly #linuxJan 22 20:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/28909603387351040Jan 22 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr@jwildeboer: @schestowitz people that read our twitter discussions will learn. And sometimes its fun to watch his u-turns ;-)Jan 22 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mrdenticator Finally. Again. :)Jan 22 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Nice avatar. :)Jan 22 20:24
schestowitzIn case it comes up, this page might be worth using http://is.gd/Xq46jiJan 22 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't sacrifice security in the transition to mobile platforms! https://eff.org/r.2xhJan 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh thanks buddy. The picture was taken during a trip to the coffee roastersJan 22 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] the most beautiful thing about the multitude of languages available to programmers is the ease of writing an ugly hack in those languagesJan 22 20:27
gnufreexFlorian's minion says that personal attacks are ok. http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/f6pvx/oops_no_copied_java_code_or_weapons_of_mass/c1drl82?context=3Jan 22 20:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gnufreex comments on Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android .::. Size~: 61.42 KBJan 22 20:28
MinceRtrolls have an interesting concept of "free speech", that's for sureJan 22 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: the most beautiful thing about the multitude of langs available to programmers is the ease of writing an ugly hack in those langs.Jan 22 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @exiledsurfer ♺ @_x4o Janet Stewart #Tunisia dissident blogger @slim404 tweets from inside new govt Cabinet Minister http://j.mp/gAavpNJan 22 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @womanwarriorjen Imprisoned Afghan Women Deserve Due Process: http://tinyurl.com/5vvawdmJan 22 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hooked my PR40 up to a new tube preamp, not using the shoddy mixer builtin anymore. Then directly into the tube compressor. Then mixer.Jan 22 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Don't sacrifice security in the transition to mobile platforms! https://eff.org/r.2xhJan 22 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] If there is one thing that ruins a netbook its the touchpad - constantly knocking with my thumb, awful device - time to get out USB mouse.Jan 22 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gotta say, the podcasting setup sounds a lot better now. Hitting the couch and watching Dexter then... :)Jan 22 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes "time to get out the mouse" just sounds roodJan 22 20:37
schestowitzMinceR: fee speech?Jan 22 20:41
schestowitzMinceR: the same can be said about Viktor. Is he too a troll?Jan 22 20:41
MinceRsadly, he's more than just a trollJan 22 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Acer to ship Android tablets based on Sandy Bridge CPUs, says report http://is.gd/6DAyqA Acer does not pay Microsoft,so #linux ,not #ballnuxJan 22 20:42
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schestowitzMinceR: does he ban Nazi memorabilia?Jan 22 20:43
MinceRnoJan 22 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is HP's WebOS heading for netbooks? http://is.gd/u2lzTK it's not just #android where #linux thrives, but #meego = open ; #webos = closedJan 22 20:44
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schestowitzI think I've had close of 15 cups of tea today!Jan 22 20:44
schestowitzwith artificial sweeteners...Jan 22 20:45
MinceRyech, artificial sweetenersJan 22 20:45
schestowitzhttp://www.fiercecontentmanagement.com/story/microsoft-web-matrix-released-utility-users-unclear/2011-01-19Jan 22 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft WebMatrix released; utility for users unclear - FierceContentManagement .::. Size~: 56.2 KBJan 22 20:46
schestowitzMinceR: better than 30 spoons of sugarJan 22 20:46
schestowitzI might as well just down a packet :-DJan 22 20:47
MinceRexcept for the tasteJan 22 20:47
MinceRand safetyJan 22 20:47
schestowitzyeahJan 22 20:47
schestowitzIt has a side effectJan 22 20:47
schestowitzWeird taste left afterwards... tangyJan 22 20:47
MinceRi find tea to be highly sensitive to the wrongness in the taste of a sweetenerJan 22 20:47
schestowitzI think I should get back to cane sugarJan 22 20:47
schestowitzI usually have it in the first few cupsJan 22 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @schestowitz More !wikileaks cables were released today. Go check 'em out, report on findings. http://cablesearch.org/ #cablegateJan 22 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android 3.0 to kick-start tablet wars http://is.gd/O7PJSN this #linux domination has one competitor left: #swpatsJan 22 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I hope they keep it this way: Not paying M$. But if even Asus pays...Jan 22 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does Canonical have a new COO yet?Jan 22 20:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nickersont/status/28917539979399168Jan 22 20:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Nickersont: @schestowitz Not only is it an inaccurate article, but an inaccurate statement. #webOS #Homebrew support from HP: http://bit.ly/hIP7YLJan 22 20:58
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: McKinney: We support homebrew, HP engineers creating webOS Apps | PreCentral.net | The #1 Palm Pre and Pixi Community .::. Size~: 80.02 KBJan 22 20:58
schestowitzbolloxJan 22 20:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28918812275376128Jan 22 20:58
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @Nickersont so where can I download the source code of #webOS to rebuilt to my liking? #palm #hp #linuxJan 22 20:58
schestowitz /lt/ld/Jan 22 20:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/28917668186693633Jan 22 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr@ghabuntu: @schestowitz None that I've heard of...Jan 22 20:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28919257634967552Jan 22 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @ghabuntu yeah, it matter a lot what COO they hire. I hope someone like Bruce Perens.Jan 22 21:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ozetadev/status/28919132007178240Jan 22 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr@ozetadev: @schestowitz whaaat? WebOS is one of the most open OS's...Jan 22 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith maybe one day they will, but the #mobbyists are failing to make a case - at least their libel doesn't embarrass MSFT /directly/Jan 22 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz IBM and Google should pool their efforts to ban swpats. But, IBM is more pro patents than against them. PityJan 22 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Watching RED. Fun movie so far. :-DJan 22 21:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28919470734970880Jan 22 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @ozetadev so where can I download the source code to rebuild?Jan 22 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith ayeJan 22 21:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nickersont/status/28920102439100416Jan 22 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Nickersont: @schestowitz @MaryUnix Palm.com/rom. From the manufacturer, of course.Jan 22 21:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/28921146191642624Jan 22 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr@ghabuntu: @schestowitz Yup. Hope they hire someone to steer things on the right path...Jan 22 21:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28921751366799360Jan 22 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @Nickersont I've visited the page and it's not about source code, it's about ROMs. The answer is, #WebOS is nonfree s/w, #Linux is.Jan 22 21:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28922006556643328Jan 22 21:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @Nickersont I still use Palm OS daily, but this OS - like WebOS - not not Free/libre software. WebOS just contains #Linux .Jan 22 21:11
schestowitzthey deceive...Jan 22 21:11
schestowitzTrying to openwash WebosJan 22 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just redesigned the Spanish portal of !techrights http://is.gd/epx9HN thanks to Eduardo LandaveriJan 22 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I appear to be a screencasting demon today, I now have 3 Drupal screencasts ready to launch, I'll be staggering the releases due to sleep :/Jan 22 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, 3 Drupal episodesJan 22 21:16
gnufreexschestowitz: That is great idea. Bruce Perens could save Ubuntu from this crazy Monmania and closedsourcedness.Jan 22 21:17
gnufreex:-)Jan 22 21:17
MinceRquestion is, does marks want thatJan 22 21:18
gnufreexMarks... lolJan 22 21:19
gnufreexShutleworthlessJan 22 21:19
MinceRshuttlecockJan 22 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Palin & other US politicians to be prosecuted for incitement http://is.gd/W65PaT http://bit.ly/fQvpA1Jan 22 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Washington's latest smear against WikiLeaks presence in Sweden: http://is.gd/GkXp3u http://bit.ly/fAvE4yJan 22 21:22
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DaemonFCHow does SCO continue in any form?Jan 22 21:35
DaemonFCShit lingers?Jan 22 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gotta say, I like this Dexter show. Starting to identify with him. Well, except the cutting on people part....Jan 22 21:36
DaemonFCI wish I could ask them how to continue running a business with no source of revenue and no business plan other than continuing to fight a hopeless lawsuitJan 22 21:36
MinceRthey might have a source of revenueJan 22 21:36
MinceRit's called micro$oftJan 22 21:36
DaemonFCThey keep having lavish meetings somehow, had one in Las Vegas recentlyJan 22 21:36
schestowitzMinceR: Bay$tarJan 22 21:37
schestowitzand YaredJan 22 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Problem With Vendor Sponsored Testing http://is.gd/3zbDTh "Sponsored tests are meaningless, from any vendor."Jan 22 21:37
DaemonFCHow to spend $10 million dollars without promoting any new products, you'll come for the coke and stay for the hookers. -By SCOJan 22 21:37
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schestowitzDaemonFC: Development of FFmpeg under new managementJan 22 21:39
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Development-of-FFmpeg-under-new-management-1172919.htmlJan 22 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Development of FFmpeg under new management - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.17 KBJan 22 21:39
DaemonFCThat Las Vegas trip was just a paper thin excuse for upper management to go on a lavish vacation on what's left of the company moneyJan 22 21:39
schestowitzSince you like to rant/lecture re codecs...Jan 22 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft did sponsor the benchmark testing and the NT server was better tuned than the Linux one." --MicrosoftJan 22 21:39
DaemonFCI'm surprised that never gets mentioned in courtJan 22 21:39
DaemonFCHow does their bankruptcy trustee explain that?Jan 22 21:40
*DaemonFC actually used Caldera OpenLinux for a brief period of timeJan 22 21:41
DaemonFCA guy running a flea market had some box sets of it real cheapJan 22 21:41
DaemonFCI might still have it up in the atticJan 22 21:41
DaemonFCIt was in limbo for a while while the line was they were devising a migration path (SCO Unix)Jan 22 21:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ozetadev/status/28929257400958976 https://twitter.com/ozetadev/status/28929411097038851Jan 22 21:43
TechrightsBot-tr@ozetadev: @schestowitz http://opensource.palm.com/Jan 22 21:43
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TechrightsBot-tr@ozetadev: @schestowitz http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html <-- that's a more exact link. Will that suffice?Jan 22 21:43
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Open Source Packages - opensource.palm.com - Palm .::. Size~: 10.27 KBJan 22 21:43
DaemonFCthat's where SCO's infringement of the GPL came aboutJan 22 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Squeeze set for Stable release on Feb. 5 or 6 - it's a distro you shouldn't ignore http://is.gd/Tir7BYJan 22 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Debian Squeeze set for Stable release on Feb. 5 or 6 - it's a distro you shouldn't ignore - CLICK  .::. Size~: 43.41 KBJan 22 21:44
DaemonFCtheir Linux Kernel Personality used actual Linux source code and GPL'd components like glibcJan 22 21:44
DaemonFCit wasn't their own code and they did link it to their closed source stuffJan 22 21:45
DaemonFC(but that's alright because they own the "IP")Jan 22 21:45
DaemonFCafter all :DJan 22 21:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28930549468897280Jan 22 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @ozetadev thanks.These are packages Palm uses and is obliged to make available. What about the whole of #webos ?Jan 22 21:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: I knowJan 22 21:45
schestowitzI challenge themJan 22 21:45
DaemonFCthe GPL only has teeth if the author of the code that's been infringed actually does sue over itJan 22 21:46
schestowitzIt started a while back, before you came to IRCJan 22 21:46
DaemonFCand often, they don't, which explains current cases of android devices that don't complyJan 22 21:46
DaemonFCgranted they can't do anything about infringment in China, but they could get an order for ICE to seize the stuff entering the US if they cared so muchJan 22 21:47
DaemonFCand they don't, and that's why the shit makes its way to the shelves at KmartJan 22 21:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ozetadev/status/28931109718859779Jan 22 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@ozetadev: @schestowitz what purpose would that serve?Jan 22 21:51
schestowitzLOLJan 22 21:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nickersont/status/28931141146779648Jan 22 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Nickersont: @schestowitz Palm's OS source code is closed so companies can't take it for their own. http://engt.co/h5hE4JJan 22 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's case (updated) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 68.14 KBJan 22 21:51
MinceRlolJan 22 21:51
MinceRso basically their point is "webos is open but it's closed"Jan 22 21:52
DaemonFCGoogle's idea of open source means Fork CityJan 22 21:52
MinceRwell, it could be an open platformJan 22 21:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28932396862668800Jan 22 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @ozetadev @Nickersont right. Palm loves taking other people's code (and comply with the licences), give nothing back. That's hoarding.Jan 22 21:52
DaemonFCthey fork everything down to the smallest library and start making radical changes without even talking to upstreamsJan 22 21:53
DaemonFCthey're more like Apple in that regardJan 22 21:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: at least Google gives the codeJan 22 21:53
schestowitzLater thoughJan 22 21:53
schestowitzOnly Google develops itJan 22 21:53
schestowitzMeeGo is freerJan 22 21:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: no webos is like iosJan 22 21:54
schestowitznot GoogleJan 22 21:54
schestowitzAndroid gives open stackJan 22 21:54
DaemonFCFedora won't package Chromium and they said it's because there's a laundry list of forked libraries that it depends on that they don't want to carry :)Jan 22 21:54
DaemonFCI can only imagine what Android is likeJan 22 21:54
DaemonFCdidn't they get screamed at and thrown out of the upstream kernel because all their stuff was unmaintained anyway?Jan 22 21:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nickersontJan 22 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trevor Nickerson (Nickersont) on Twitter .::. Size~: 45.34 KBJan 22 21:55
DaemonFCso basically, they don't even have Linux, just another downstream fork made to do god knows whatJan 22 21:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/ozetadevJan 22 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Philip Bernstein (ozetadev) on Twitter .::. Size~: 48.02 KBJan 22 21:55
schestowitzconflict of interest?Jan 22 21:56
DaemonFCschestowitz: Their behavior indicates a rush to get things to market with no regard for quality or how they'll maintain it long termJan 22 21:57
DaemonFCeverything they fork could essentially be another KHTML v. WebkitJan 22 21:57
DaemonFCjust like Apple, they give back code when the license compels them to, when it suits them, or re-release their version under their own termsJan 22 21:58
DaemonFCIt's funny that you don't ever hear BSD people complain when Microsoft or Apple take their code and wrap it around their own EULA, but they throw a tantrum if it gets rewrapped under the GPLJan 22 21:59
schestowitzyesJan 22 22:00
schestowitzcause gpl competes wit themJan 22 22:00
schestowitzfor usageJan 22 22:00
DaemonFCthey opened the door for what they're complaining aboutJan 22 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Engagdget embarrassed itself big time by not deleting lies from #mobbyists , now tries to sneak out http://is.gd/x0PPp6 http://is.gd/kB71uyJan 22 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android source code, Java, and copyright infringement: what's going on? -- Engadget .::. Size~: 70.17 KBJan 22 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's case (updated) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 68.12 KBJan 22 22:02
DaemonFCI don't use Java anywayJan 22 22:03
DaemonFCthe kind of desktop apps I'm interested in that surface in Java or .Net have superior alternatives that run natively anywayJan 22 22:04
DaemonFCso I don't even care to have MonoJan 22 22:04
schestowitzSIlver Lie?Jan 22 22:05
MinceRwell, once the OpenSSH people did complain that their stuff gets used without any contribution backJan 22 22:05
DaemonFCI've never used it, the closest I came was when I installed Moonlight just for the hell of it to see what it could doJan 22 22:05
DaemonFCit only lasted about 20 minutes before I removed itJan 22 22:05
MinceRbut yes, it does sound a lot like the most rabid BSD zealots prefer proprietary licensing to GPLJan 22 22:05
DaemonFCit usually crashes and it doesn't support anything that uses DRMJan 22 22:06
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Pardus-Linux-2011-Has-LibreOffice-Firefox-4-and-KDE-SC-4-5-5-179796.shtmlJan 22 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pardus Linux 2011 Has LibreOffice, Firefox 4 and KDE SC 4.5.5 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.86 KBJan 22 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #Engadget should have done: sorry, we have been bamboozled, we thererefoe helped deceive a lot of people for Microsoft and we apologiseJan 22 22:06
DaemonFCand even when it works, it's a version behindJan 22 22:06
MinceRcould be a case of cutting one's nose off to spite one's own faceJan 22 22:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ozetadev/status/28933337376624640Jan 22 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr@ozetadev: @schestowitz well, someones a fanboy. How about Android and Java?Jan 22 22:06
schestowitzLOLJan 22 22:06
MinceRlolJan 22 22:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/28935977846177793Jan 22 22:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @ozetadev meego is most openJan 22 22:07
DaemonFCMoonlight is just terrible, except possibly for the ZomgMiguelDesktopApps for Cloud ComputingJan 22 22:07
MinceRi've seen moonblight play fullscreen videoJan 22 22:07
MinceRit was just like trash doing the sameJan 22 22:07
MinceRi.e. slideshowJan 22 22:07
schestowitzslide slow?Jan 22 22:07
schestowitzbuy why?Jan 22 22:07
MinceRbut hey, now we have to programs to fail in a given way, isn't that great?Jan 22 22:07
DaemonFCAt least Flash usually doesn't crash and take the browser with it when you're trying to view Flash contentJan 22 22:08
DaemonFC:)Jan 22 22:08
MinceRnever mind that 10 years ago (or more) you could just put the video up in a sane format and link to itJan 22 22:08
MinceRand it would open in a player that actually workedJan 22 22:08
MinceRwithout all sorts of garbage around itJan 22 22:08
schestowitzno streaming..Jan 22 22:08
DaemonFCwell, way back in the stone age when it didn't occur to them to build a video player into the browserJan 22 22:08
schestowitzusually...Jan 22 22:08
MinceRthere are containers that support streamingJan 22 22:08
DaemonFCor do something smart like agree on common codecsJan 22 22:08
MinceRand http supports streaming as wellJan 22 22:09
MinceRso it should workJan 22 22:09
MinceRDaemonFC: it never did belong in the browser thoughJan 22 22:09
*DaemonFC sets MinceR up with an ASF streamJan 22 22:09
DaemonFCB-)Jan 22 22:09
*MinceR sets DaemonFC up with a slap to the faceJan 22 22:09
MinceR:>Jan 22 22:09
DaemonFCwhen there are no standards, this is what you getJan 22 22:10
DaemonFCwhen there are standards, this is probably what you'll get anywayJan 22 22:10
DaemonFCSometimes setting a standard is jsut as good as chumming the waterJan 22 22:11
DaemonFCit's something to compete with, not implementJan 22 22:11
DaemonFCnow what we have are browsers trying to attract users by saying their javascript is 20ms faster on Sunspider or they have more web appsJan 22 22:12
DaemonFCbut what they're also doing is using their users as pawns for things like what web standards there are that surviveJan 22 22:13
DaemonFCMinceR: You see Chrome's new Web App Store where you can BUY web apps?Jan 22 22:14
MinceRi haven't seen itJan 22 22:14
MinceRi don't need an app store :>Jan 22 22:14
DaemonFCarguing that you built your whoring platform on open source is dandy isn't it?Jan 22 22:14
MinceRcrApple does that too :>Jan 22 22:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: FFMpeg encoders are not so great, but it can decode just damned near everything quite wellJan 22 22:15
DaemonFCeven VQF B-)Jan 22 22:15
*DaemonFC sells MinceR a bill of goods, errrr, bag of CloudJan 22 22:16
DaemonFC:)Jan 22 22:16
MinceRthanks, i have my own cloud :>Jan 22 22:17
DaemonFCYour own personal MinceRCloud for ZOMG Web 2.0?Jan 22 22:17
MinceRand for ssh :>Jan 22 22:17
DaemonFChow much is your subscription fee?Jan 22 22:18
DaemonFCmust be brutalJan 22 22:18
MinceR0Jan 22 22:18
DaemonFCI'm waiting for Web 2.0.1 revision bJan 22 22:18
DaemonFCthat's just me thoughJan 22 22:18
MinceRi'm waiting for reality 2.0Jan 22 22:18
DaemonFCversion numbers usually are just marketing hype, not really a way to determine what's really changedJan 22 22:19
DaemonFCthe fact that Linux distributions one up the version number every few months reminds me of AOLJan 22 22:20
MinceRmarketing taking over everything is pretty sadJan 22 22:20
DaemonFCleads to bullet point engineeringJan 22 22:21
DaemonFCadding stupid shit just to make it look like you should buy the upgradeJan 22 22:21
DaemonFCit's what they used to do, but then software companies got smarterJan 22 22:21
DaemonFCthey just see to it that if you're a release or two behind, the new stuff won't workJan 22 22:22
MinceRworse than thatJan 22 22:22
DaemonFClots of stuff already fails to run on OS X 10.5Jan 22 22:22
MinceRit leads to compromises in qualityJan 22 22:22
DaemonFC:)Jan 22 22:22
DaemonFCsome guy wrote a bunch of extensions to Windows 98 that let it run newer software like Firefox 4 and the latest Photoshop and Office 2010Jan 22 22:23
DaemonFCshows you how much has really changed if some guy in his spare time with no inside knowledge of Windows can get all that workingJan 22 22:24
DaemonFCand Microsoft is saying it would take a massive amount of effort ro rearchitect Windows 2000 for a couple security patchesJan 22 22:24
MinceR:>Jan 22 22:24
DaemonFC10 years of support really means 9 years of support, or 8Jan 22 22:25
MinceRwell, it would take a massive amount of effort to rearchitect any winblows version to make them secure :>Jan 22 22:25
DaemonFCor whatever they really figure they want to give youJan 22 22:25
DaemonFCcould be 15Jan 22 22:25
DaemonFCI just think it's really shoddy for them to justify the high price as being for an additional 5 years of supportJan 22 22:26
DaemonFCthen they cut people off with 2 years leftJan 22 22:26
DaemonFCif you want to say 10 years then you're on your own, greatJan 22 22:26
DaemonFCbut then they get 8 years in and say screw it and walk offJan 22 22:27
DaemonFCBut then you can pay for per-incident support after it's EOLJan 22 22:28
MinceRpeople who buy anything from m$ get screwedJan 22 22:28
DaemonFCso you can pay them to come up with a hotfix just for youJan 22 22:28
MinceRsome people insist on going back for moreJan 22 22:28
MinceRit's their problemJan 22 22:28
MinceRthey had plenty of time and clues to figure out what's going onJan 22 22:28
DaemonFCactually, there's not a lot of cluesJan 22 22:28
DaemonFCit's all Microsoft and maybe a Mac here and thereJan 22 22:29
MinceRthere's plenty of evidence available on what m$ doesJan 22 22:30
MinceRsomething else: i read that ATA TRIM is currently supported in Linux if you're using btrfs or ext4Jan 22 22:32
MinceRis that correct? was support added to other fs-es since?Jan 22 22:32
DaemonFCXFS supports it experimentallyJan 22 22:33
DaemonFCwell, it's stable in 2.6.36Jan 22 22:34
DaemonFC:)Jan 22 22:34
DaemonFCthey call it discardJan 22 22:34
*DaemonFC hadn't looked in a whileJan 22 22:34
DaemonFCI'm currently using Ext4 since that's what Fedora insists onJan 22 22:35
DaemonFCit won't even let you use Ext3 if you install from a Live CDJan 22 22:35
gnufreexI still don't get why RHEL 6 onsly supports 8TB EXT4Jan 22 22:36
gnufreexOr is it 16Jan 22 22:36
DaemonFCbecause 8 TB is where you get limitied if you're using 32-bit X86Jan 22 22:36
gnufreexNot like they don't have more to testJan 22 22:36
DaemonFC*limitedJan 22 22:36
DaemonFCyou can use more than 8 TB if you use X86-64Jan 22 22:37
gnufreexI am not using RHEL6 yetJan 22 22:37
gnufreexbut it has limit.Jan 22 22:37
gnufreexI will try to findJan 22 22:37
DaemonFCXFS has always shared that limitation because it's a limitation of the architecture :)Jan 22 22:37
MinceR233240 < DaemonFC> it won't even let you use Ext3 if you install from a Live CDJan 22 22:37
MinceRthat annoyed me a lotJan 22 22:38
MinceRespecially since i couldn't even get the non-live installer to boot in virtualboxJan 22 22:38
DaemonFCyou can't mount it as ext3 after the fact either because all the files on disk were already stored using extentsJan 22 22:38
DaemonFCand ext3 does not understand thoseJan 22 22:38
gnufreexahaJan 22 22:38
gnufreexWikipdia saysJan 22 22:39
gnufreex16TiB cause of e2fsprogs limitaiitonJan 22 22:39
DaemonFCright, but 8 TB limit is because of x86Jan 22 22:39
DaemonFCyou could go up to 16 on X86-64 before hitting the e4fsprogs limitJan 22 22:40
DaemonFCwhich is what the package is called in RHELJan 22 22:40
DaemonFCthat is unless they patched it to not allow more than 8 anywayJan 22 22:41
gnufreexI never really used XFSJan 22 22:41
gnufreexexcept on IRIXJan 22 22:41
gnufreexfor short timeJan 22 22:41
gnufreexmore like playing.Jan 22 22:41
DaemonFCXFS has the same on-disk format in Linux that it did in IRIXJan 22 22:41
MinceRi did use XFS on my gentoo install, back when it only had metadata-only journaling with no ordered writesJan 22 22:41
DaemonFCyou can even dual boot and share the same partitionJan 22 22:41
MinceRthat caused some data lossesJan 22 22:41
MinceRbut afaik they've fixed that since thenJan 22 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Got !moinmoin working, now trying to get moin-latex workingJan 22 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @meanmicio: UN University chooses MEDICAL, the Free Health and Hospital Information System http://bit.ly/icnKfe #gnu #gnusolidario #emrJan 22 22:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeanMicio: The United Nations University chooses MEDICAL .::. Size~: 41.94 KBJan 22 22:46
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gnufreexI am reading now, there is also CXFSJan 22 22:46
gnufreexA cluster XFSJan 22 22:47
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gnufreexAnd it is proprieteryJan 22 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb ;) we can bring that up in the next show along with another discussion about jobs at RIM! ;).. "Carry on computing" !techbytesJan 22 22:47
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MinceRdiscussing RIMjobs again? :>Jan 22 22:48
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_Goblinlol....Jan 22 22:52
_Goblintalking of Rim,jobs.....just found this on a troll site....Jan 22 22:52
_GoblinQuote "Beware of links to GatesKeepers, The Source, No-Mono, OpenBytes, Pogson,"Jan 22 22:52
MinceR:>Jan 22 22:53
_GoblinI'll put it in context:Jan 22 22:53
_GoblinQuote "This is a common pattern at BoycottNovell -- presenting “sources” as independent entities that just happen to write about the same things with the same slant all the time. Beware of links to GatesKeepers, The Source, No-Mono, OpenBytes, Pogson, etc. These are all his friends’ blogs -- a.k.a the Munchkin Network."Jan 22 22:53
_GoblinLast time I checked I was independent....Jan 22 22:53
_Goblininfact I think there are more topics where myself and Roy disagree than agree.Jan 22 22:54
MinceRyou see it's a crime to have a similar worldview to that of someone elseJan 22 22:54
MinceRoh, waitJan 22 22:54
_Goblinyeah must be...Jan 22 22:54
MinceRdon't these trolls "write about the same things with the same slant all the time"? oh snap!Jan 22 22:54
_GoblinThe funny thing was, the article in question presents itself as "proof" that Roy is anti-apple....it then cites my site without realizing that I actually am quite complimentary about Apple and infact recieve some critisism for it.Jan 22 22:55
_Goblinits one of the things me and Roy don't agree on.Jan 22 22:55
MinceRgetting facts right isn't their strong suitJan 22 22:55
_GoblinIm going to use Munchkin Network in the next Techbytes show....I like that...Jan 22 23:07
MinceR:>Jan 22 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Openbytes - Part of the "munchkin network" apparently...I quite like that....even though its from a wintroll its quite original....Jan 22 23:07
MinceRexcept that "munchkin" was already used to refer to wintrolls, iircJan 22 23:08
MinceRask Roy about it :Jan 22 23:08
MinceR:)Jan 22 23:08
_Goblindamn...Jan 22 23:08
_GoblinI think the best attempt at an insult was about Techbytes when they called it Brokeback bytes (on account of the flyer picture for the show)....I have to admit, that was very good.Jan 22 23:09
*ziggyfish not happy all Australians are out of the openJan 22 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Fragmentarium: a new GPU-side generative art tool - #Libre #Graphics World http://ow.ly/3IufvJan 22 23:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @silner they do like to insist on IE to work, then claim that all their visitors are IE so why make it standards compliantJan 22 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Gwibber 2.91.3 update. StatusNet, Identica, Twitter, Facebook, Qaiku & Friendfeed=Working: Buzz=Fail: Identica groups still not clickableJan 22 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @fontana @bkuhn But also, to paraphrase #Marx, proprietary software is the opiate of the massesJan 22 23:46

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