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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hi !identiverse just like planned I did some stuff for a bit after I seemed to have said that I was going before, but was done denting yes.Dec 31 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !identiverse a group where funny dents, but also dents that don't have much of a purpose can be sent, such as the one I just did!Dec 31 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @geekbrit I just remembered the Library of Congress is archiving all tweets for posterity. #StageFright < !privacy #bigbrotheriswatchingDec 31 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: Activity Journal getting a new View 31 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm (w/o having read context) why? is @jargon trying to push #emacs on everyone? ;DDec 31 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Will have to check it out: has a no-OS option (via @@geekbrit)Dec 31 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard i'd have to know what #emacs was to answer that...Dec 31 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse people and anyone else reading this, its the last day of 2010 here as of not that long ago.Dec 31 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard He was grumping about Sheldon ( #BigBangTheory ) liking Ubuntu and segued into ruling the worldDec 31 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm It is a church :)Dec 31 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm See Saint Ignutius.Dec 31 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm one of the two best text-editors on the planet (the other being #vim) over which many a flamewar has been fought ;DDec 31 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm #Ubuntu is nice :) without it I wouldn't have gotten into GNU/Linux (and now #ArchLinux)Dec 31 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera @jargon @wildcard There does seem to be a rather religious ahem slant to software loyalty.Dec 31 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb It must be tomorrow there already. It's only December 30th over here.Dec 31 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New blog post: Thanks to You, Dan Will Be at FOSDEM 2011! 31 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Yep the 31st as of about half an hour ago now.Dec 31 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #Hogmanay: "lasts through night 'til the morning of New Year's Day (1 January) or, in some cases, 2 January/Scottish Bank Holiday"~WikipediaDec 31 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Some day I'll get to Scotland :DDec 31 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Oh noes! Water in my room! #failDec 31 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @n8 chicken-based steadicam: #thenextbigthing ? <<AWSOME serious LAUGHter... even out takes at the end!Dec 31 00:50
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AdmFubar_:) hi allDec 31 00:51
AdmFubar_hey think we can commandeer the Intellectual Property phrase and start referring to it as Intellectual Piracy? :D (the legalized theft of ideas) , just a thought.Dec 31 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb Happy #Hogmanay to you too.Dec 31 00:54
AdmFubar_laters allDec 31 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Or not since I live in #England not Scotland, and I Googled to find out what #Hogmanay is, and it's @kevie 's fault! :)Dec 31 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #VoIP decision means #Skype now illegal < isn't this against trade regulations? #WTODec 31 01:12
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want2bfreeyo peoplesDec 31 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Beware of this Android trojan - #fbDec 31 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] On the positive side, Super Bock Abadia! #needbeer almost satisfied (wishing I had a couple more of this)Dec 31 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @bkuhn to be honest, I am not sure whether I want the #TSA to touch my balls again. I mean, what if they hire a Narwhal to screen me?Dec 31 01:47
DaemonFCa naddy narwhal? :)Dec 31 01:52
DaemonFCreminds me of that Australian woman on those infomercials advertising that hair removal wax, NadsDec 31 01:53
DaemonFCCall now to get your free bottle of Nads!Dec 31 01:53
DaemonFC:)Dec 31 01:54
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DaemonFCWhat's the most cost-effective way of getting rid of dust?Dec 31 02:03
DaemonFCpreferably one that doesn't involve a $300 gadget or replacing a filter every week :)Dec 31 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rbonifaz/@rbonifaz] ♺ @rms: Brazilian president defends Wikileaks !wikileaksDec 31 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !KDE 's #KOffice 2.3.0 released! Nice! #calligrasuiteDec 31 02:37
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DaemonFCyes, I was playing with 2.3 beta, it has good ooxml import filtersDec 31 02:44
DaemonFCI do need to open, edit, and print them, not worried about making moreDec 31 02:44
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DaemonFCNovell's export filter was horrid anyway :)Dec 31 02:45
DaemonFCI'm surprised they made a demo of OOo Novell Edition with the claim of MS Office interoperabilityDec 31 02:45
DaemonFCpassing a document from one to the other would always break it in some wayDec 31 02:46
DaemonFCwhat was the demo for? to show potential customers not to bother?Dec 31 02:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Low tonight: 27°FDec 31 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] KOffice 2.3.0 Office Suite Released: While there is now the Calligra Suite following an internal KOffice fork by... 31 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !KDE's !KOffice 2.3.0 Released → | — #office !linux !opensource !fs !odfDec 31 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @wildcard Don't let him tell you. #emacs and #vim have been the cause of more bloodshed then religion :)Dec 31 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 If A includes B, and B includes C, then A includes C.Dec 31 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @therealjanisian: Quote of the day: "Don't believe everything you think."Dec 31 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Trying my hand at "Highway to Hell" tonite. Insert Twitter witticism here:_____________.Dec 31 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: Added comments to : #Copyright Petition from @carolelavallee targets wrong policy #C32comDec 31 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Oh how I wish I was in grad school (& US citizen) so that I can apply to NASA! #fbDec 31 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @themadhatter #Amen ;DDec 31 04:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter @wildcard This makes no sense. It's like fighting about a screw driver. My screw driver is better than your screw driver?Dec 31 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard @themadhatter There's been many a time I've used a coin to turn a screw. I believe in using what works.Dec 31 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @wildcard So do I, but the #emacs / #vi wars go on and on and on...Dec 31 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @themadhatter yah. I wonder how many actually tried both before deciding? I started out emacs, but then tried vim and decided to go that wayDec 31 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Flume, Hive and realtime indexing via ElasticSearch 31 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Many people are going to be afraid to try the other if everybody is going to jump on their heads if they switch.Dec 31 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Sorry, I don't like that idea of a disclosure law for bloggers. Even though there are some who will hide their agenda....Dec 31 04:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ... and thus mislead, people need the freedom to remain anonymous to be able to blow the whistle on bad things. !wikiLeaksDec 31 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm yeah, most will only grab the editor (out of the two) a majority of their friends happen to preferDec 31 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm It's not the anonymous ones I'm worried about, it's the ones that try to use their name to convince.Dec 31 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm What it comes down to, is if you are being paid, you need to declare it. Or if your company is being paid.Dec 31 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm My complaint with Barry Sookman, is that he is being paid for work, but he doesn't disclose.Dec 31 04:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Still reading Griftopia. Fascinating book. Next book will be Mercedes Lackey's IntriguesDec 31 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter So you out him. The same deal with all the "Access Copyright" member groups forming up as if tehy were different.Dec 31 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm sonic screwdriver? The Doctor has one.Dec 31 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm I shouldn't need to out him. Disclosure should be the law.Dec 31 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm I knew all along what he was. I was trying to corner him, to make him admit it. Russell's actually the one that outed him.Dec 31 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter For lobbying perhaps, but then, I think that paid lobbyists ought to be illegal too.Dec 31 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Doctor Who is an acquired taste. The older Doctor Who hasn't held up well. New Who is pretty good.Dec 31 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter And while I'm redesigning the world, lets get rid of campaign advertising too.Dec 31 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Last time I tried Dr. Who was in the 70's, so I didn't know there was a new who.Dec 31 05:07
schestowitz[00:53] <AdmFubar_> hey think we can commandeer the Intellectual Property phrase and start referring to it as Intellectual Piracy? :D (the legalized theft of ideas) , just a thought.Dec 31 05:10
schestowitzFighting fire with fireDec 31 05:10
schestowitzAnd people might not get it at firstDec 31 05:10
schestowitzfirstDec 31 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard That can be good 'cos your friends can help with problems; it's accepting one 'cause friends pressure you i've a problem with.Dec 31 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm could we get rid of that annoying habit of advertisers to up the volume during breaks in the regular programming?Dec 31 05:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Oh that's a good one. I'll vote for it!Dec 31 05:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter You'd like this then: 31 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm I agree wholeheartedlyDec 31 05:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter @psquid I printed this out for a #Who friend: 31 05:25
DaemonFCI just tried to print preview something in KWord 2.3 and got a krash :/Dec 31 05:44
*DaemonFC gives schestowitz the gift of Oracle Cloud OfficeDec 31 05:45
DaemonFC:DDec 31 05:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Was there a world-wide font shortage?Dec 31 05:49
DaemonFCan Arab Font Embargo?Dec 31 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Application Development: Java, C, C++: Top Programming Languages for 2011 31 05:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: both.Dec 31 05:55
schestowitzThis one is branded "Ubuntu"Dec 31 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm But doesn't mean I'd invite'em in for a drink ... you might like this song "Killer Robots From Venus" 31 05:57
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DaemonFCthey like to reinvent things that already existed and worked fineDec 31 06:00
DaemonFCis that just me?Dec 31 06:00
DaemonFCthey're only glossing over some superficial problems while leaving things like "cups-filter-not-found" as helpful error messagesDec 31 06:01
DaemonFCfinally after 3 hours of throwing spaghetti as the ceiling, I stumbled onto a working printerDec 31 06:02
DaemonFCbut thank god for the Ubuntu Font Family :)Dec 31 06:02
DaemonFC*atDec 31 06:02
schestowitz 31 06:03
schestowitzHm... he blogs Macs now?Dec 31 06:03
schestowitzUbuntu is one happy font familyDec 31 06:04
DaemonFCthey should make the balloon notices use itDec 31 06:04
DaemonFCthat way cups-filter-not-found is extra legibleDec 31 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Yep, New Who is pretty decent. Doctor has regenerated twice so far.Dec 31 06:05
DaemonFCbetween the cups web interface, the hp toolkit, and the KDE Printer applet, there's three ways to set up your printer, all of them have options the others don't, and one might work when the others don'tDec 31 06:06
DaemonFCthat's the kind of problem that needs tacking, not making the notification tray look more like OS XDec 31 06:07
DaemonFC*tacklingDec 31 06:07
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DaemonFCoh and forgive me for not mentioning bringing up a terminal to run hp-plugin -i to get the ppd file installed after having to get about 100 development packages to create a build environment suitable for compiling hplip 3.10.9 from sourceDec 31 06:08
DaemonFCthat's got to be the most agonizing process of setting up hardware I've ever encounteredDec 31 06:09
DaemonFCbut it's over :)Dec 31 06:09
DaemonFCI almost wonder why distros don't bother updating driver packagesDec 31 06:10
DaemonFCwould it kill them to build new versions of hplip?Dec 31 06:10
DaemonFCbut we have Ubuntu Fonts...Dec 31 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] New Groklaw article - OSI Asks German FCO to Look Into the Proposed Patent Deal & You Can Too: 31 06:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, He bought a Mac, it's no secret that Apple likes to make arbitrary backward design choices, then he complains about the keyboard not being right :)Dec 31 06:18
DaemonFCnext he'll say that's the way it should work and only Apple had the design prowess to see itDec 31 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Not so sure what to make of things right nowDec 31 06:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Freelancer4Hire ♺ @BraveKidsVoices Why do we have a global bullying crisis? Because we have a global child abuse crisis.Dec 31 06:24
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schestowitz"The most bizarre is that a French company, Archos, would be hurt to the benefit of an American company. "Dec 31 06:25
gnufreexwotDec 31 06:25
gnufreex!!11Dec 31 06:25
gnufreexnot windows... piratedDec 31 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter "New who" sounds like an escapee from that other doctor... Dr. Seuss ("all the whos down in whoville...")Dec 31 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I need to get to sleep myself... Happy #Hogmanay and sweet dreams !IdentiverseDec 31 06:30
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schestowitzApple thinks it owns SteveDec 31 06:34
schestowitzHe is all "IP"Dec 31 06:34
gnufreexIP freelyDec 31 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I have nothing to share for day 48 besides some macro practice with LEGO ... maybe I'll post them, but I"m (relatively) warm in bed atm.Dec 31 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 36°F at Deer Valley AP, and I'm considering a walk? madness, maybe I'll just stay here.Dec 31 06:47
amarsh0431 C hereDec 31 06:50
amarsh04better than the 43 C originally forecastDec 31 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] France taxes non-Windows everything! #monopoly #microsoft !gnu !gnulinux !fs 31 06:52
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amarsh04schestowitz, have you come across any packages that can take a spreadsheet and make it easy to swap rows and columns around? I have been playing in gnumeric with some movies listed in the columns, and cast and crew members in rows, with the role description in each cell, and would like to play around with seeing which personnel have had the most involvement with groups of moviesDec 31 06:53
amarsh04basically swapping rows and columns around like one might do on a matrix, except there is text data in the elementsDec 31 06:54
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amarsh04if one puts the data into several database tables, interpreting the data becomes  more tediousDec 31 06:55
schestowitzamarsh04: I hardly use spreadsheetsDec 31 06:55
schestowitzWhat is it for?Dec 31 06:55
amarsh04neither do I schestowitzDec 31 06:55
schestowitzamarsh04: for simple data you could use octaveDec 31 06:55
schestowitzWith .ods loadersDec 31 06:55
amarsh04just personal interestDec 31 06:55
schestowitzthan data=date';Dec 31 06:55
schestowitz*aDec 31 06:55
amarsh04I actually had to install gnumeric on the other machine to try it outDec 31 06:55
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DaemonFCGnumeric is alrightDec 31 07:07
DaemonFCI wish I could get by on ABIWordDec 31 07:07
DaemonFCOOo is giganticDec 31 07:07
gnufreexI think Gnumeric is infected with DeIcaziness... ABIword is ok.Dec 31 07:08
DaemonFCGnumeric can import xls and xlsx without any weirdnessDec 31 07:08
gnufreexThat's what I said.Dec 31 07:09
amarsh04btw, schestowitz, do you have that free pdf readers link? I should write to the webmasters and suggest it rather than the acrobat linksDec 31 07:09
gnufreexInfected with Microsoftness and DeIcaziness.Dec 31 07:09
gnufreex:-)Dec 31 07:09
DaemonFCABIword can fail to import ODF correctlyDec 31 07:09
DaemonFCit does alright with its own file formats and old MS OfficeDec 31 07:10
gnufreexWho cares. I use Emacs and nano. And Gedit.Dec 31 07:10
DaemonFCthe biggest problem with ODF is that it's too tied to OOoDec 31 07:11
DaemonFCalmost every other office suite complains that it's difficult to implement because of thatDec 31 07:11
*amarsh04 wonders if is possible to configure a kernel/initrd and emacs to have a kernel with init=emacs working (-:Dec 31 07:11
gnufreexSun took a page from Microsoft's book, maybe.Dec 31 07:12
DaemonFCKoffice was the best ODF support outside of OOo last time I lookedDec 31 07:12
DaemonFCit supported like 88% of itDec 31 07:12
DaemonFCAbiword was like 60% or somethingDec 31 07:12
DaemonFCthat's the problem with office formats, they're designed around one particular suite's internal layout and nothing else can get it quite rightDec 31 07:13
gnufreexI think not. I think it is Microsoft problem.Dec 31 07:14
gnufreexAnd OOO is clone of MSODec 31 07:14
gnufreexso it cloned problemDec 31 07:14
DaemonFCno, they're just the two biggest examplesDec 31 07:14
gnufreexIs there more examples?Dec 31 07:14
DaemonFCif you look at Softmaker and old Staroffice formats, you see they're no differentDec 31 07:14
DaemonFCnobody else has bothered to implement them and that's the only reason you don't hear complaintsDec 31 07:15
gnufreexI know that OOO can get docx virus because cloned MSO too good.Dec 31 07:15
DaemonFCsame with wordperfectDec 31 07:15
gnufreexSoftmaker is based on OOODec 31 07:15
gnufreexSame with StarOfficeDec 31 07:15
DaemonFCno, it's notDec 31 07:15
DaemonFCOOo is based on StarOfficeDec 31 07:15
gnufreexSameDec 31 07:15
DaemonFCand Softmaker has been around even longer than StarDec 31 07:16
gnufreexNew versions of Softmaker are based on OOODec 31 07:16
gnufreexSun sold them a license to code.Dec 31 07:16
gnufreexSame with IBM lotusDec 31 07:16
DaemonFCthere's been some major work done on the import filters thenDec 31 07:16
gnufreexProbablyDec 31 07:16
Diablo-D3[02:08:36] <gnufreex> Infected with Microsoftness and DeIcaziness.Dec 31 07:17
Diablo-D3thats called "the clap"Dec 31 07:17
DaemonFCI've bought StarOffice beforeDec 31 07:18
DaemonFCbut that was berfore OOoDec 31 07:18
gnufreexI think they cloned MS from start.Dec 31 07:18
gnufreexBut not sureDec 31 07:18
DaemonFCI needed a decent word proessor for school and it was $20 for that or hundreds for MSDec 31 07:18
gnufreexThat was probably the reason why Sun picked them.Dec 31 07:19
DaemonFCguess what my allowance money went for :)Dec 31 07:19
DaemonFC*processorDec 31 07:19
DaemonFCit had MS file format support, so yeah, easy transitionDec 31 07:19
DaemonFCit was cheaper to by the company that made Star than to try to purchase MS Office licenses by seatDec 31 07:20
DaemonFCbonus: All the existing files still workDec 31 07:20
DaemonFC*buyDec 31 07:20
DaemonFCSun was only moderately less hostile to FOSS than Oracle isDec 31 07:21
DaemonFCthey went more like Netscape in slow motionDec 31 07:21
gnufreexYeah. People don't beleive me when I say that.Dec 31 07:22
DaemonFCthey were going broke and saw open source as bringing in free labotDec 31 07:22
DaemonFCp*laborDec 31 07:22
gnufreexAbout Sun-OracleDec 31 07:22
schestowitz[07:09] <amarsh04> btw, schestowitz, do you have that free pdf readers link? I should write to the webmasters and suggest it rather than the acrobat linksDec 31 07:22
schestowitzFSFE has a campign page with buttons and instructionsDec 31 07:22
DaemonFCI don't remember the last time I had Adobe Reader on a machine I owned, willinglyDec 31 07:23
DaemonFCthere was the time Adobe trojaned it in with Flash when I added their Yum repo to FedoraDec 31 07:23
DaemonFCbut it was only there long enough to get removedDec 31 07:23
amarsh04thanks schestowitz, just found: 31 07:23
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amarsh04I had to use the word "campaign" to find a useful linkDec 31 07:24
DaemonFCI hope Oracle does shut down OOoDec 31 07:24
DaemonFCthere will be less of a schism with only LibreOffice runningDec 31 07:25
DaemonFCthe last thing I want to end up with is both of them installed because they both have mutually exclusive featuresDec 31 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And soon we will see similar laws in other countries too. China makes VoIP illegal.Dec 31 07:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh, god, here come the "happy gnu years"... Kill me.Dec 31 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm The whole St. Ignucius of the church of emacs was just @rms having a bit of a laugh.Dec 31 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer And soon we will see similar laws in other countries too. China makes VoIP illegal.Dec 31 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @slubman !android tablets GPL compliance: 31 07:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy last day of the year to all. !techrights has many good posts planned for next week.Dec 31 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Not taking a break ? Holiday season...Dec 31 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I just said I did.Dec 31 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When corporations speak about "freedom" they mean "freedom from regulation" (free market anarchy), which is why @rms ' message scares themDec 31 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ★ The Typhoid Mary of Three Strikes: Just before Christmas we saw the Spanish Parliament reject yet another atte... 31 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron says that some people in Britain have been living beyond the means of the peasants who support them. :)Dec 31 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @macno !mustard reached 7000 installations in !android market!!Dec 31 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Guess I missed. Chokoq is only getting the last 20 dents...Dec 31 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh you could also get a nexus S for that much ;) !androidDec 31 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Btw, how is Iomega track record with GPL ? We've just received an Iomega storage server built with Samba & LinuxDec 31 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bacon butties for breakfast :-)Dec 31 08:14
*DaemonFC just got Seamonkey to build on HaikuDec 31 08:14
DaemonFCsweeeetDec 31 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Oh, I can't even think about it. Cholesterol, early in the morning... I pity you, my friend.Dec 31 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As I glance@various Free/open src Web sites I find that they consistently decline in readership.Given FOSS popularisation,any explanation?Dec 31 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hrmpf. Every Aspect related page on #diaspora gives an error 500. I hope this gets fixed asap! 31 08:15
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TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 08:02:05 UTC - It is quite saddening to see how corporations that exploit !GNU have groomed Linux instead,leaving Stallman in the dark 31 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith I do not do it very often but when I do they are tasty!Dec 31 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I think it's EMC now. They 'hide' the Linux in their products.Dec 31 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Petition to stop Western Union abusing monopoly by charging outrageous fees on poorest countries' transferees 31 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Take care of your heart ;-)Dec 31 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz EMC ? The gang behind Attachmate ?Dec 31 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith It is the only muscle I have left that works.Dec 31 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "coopetition" is a nice-sounding euphemism for cartel.Dec 31 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera :-DDec 31 08:24
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schestowitz"We reserve the right to switch back to a registered-users-only system if we get too much spam or troll commenters, but I really hope we won't need to."Dec 31 08:25
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schestowitzThat's the nice thing about itDec 31 08:25
schestowitzIn techrights we no longer get troll commentsDec 31 08:25
schestowitzBecause trolls are too lazy to create an account with real E-mail addressDec 31 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Citing Jesus Christ: What a den of thieves this place has becomeDec 31 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera one of the few involuntarily-working ones, tooDec 31 08:27
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TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think people love the idea of #FOSS but hate the religion. Too many devs have become preachers and their projects churches.Dec 31 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie It started with the philosophy and doctrine of programs that respect their users. It's about freedom, opposite of religions.Dec 31 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz In my case that is a very fortunate state of affairs.Dec 31 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Despite setbacks,some thing things *are* improving Japan finally starts taking action against its corrupt whaling indus'Dec 31 08:32
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schestowitz "The IDF has speculated that the UFO "could have been a party balloon." LOLDec 31 08:33
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schestowitzPigeon chasers and balloon busters..Dec 31 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ITA wi-fi. It's how I anticipated. Police registration requirement ends today. ID collection deferred to a GVMT project law.Dec 31 08:34
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schestowitzIncorrect assertion that he did thisDec 31 08:40
schestowitzIn here: 31 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Found an old article in Time's free (non paywalled) archives. Nice. about the old Communication Decency ActDec 31 08:44
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DaemonFCSeamonkey still urges all Netscape 6/7 and Mozilla Suite users to update :/Dec 31 08:45
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DaemonFC:)Dec 31 08:46
schestowitzThankDec 31 08:46
schestowitzThanksDec 31 08:46
DaemonFCdon't mention it :)Dec 31 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] How many audiophiles does it take to change a lightbulb? 31 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie can you provide specific examples where "fanatics turned [ #foss ] into a near religious movement"? C/f 31 08:52
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TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz True, but too many people, have turned it into a near religious movement. Easy to support #foss but way too many fanatics.Dec 31 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie if digital freedom can be named a "religion", so can "free market" advocacy (anarchy), democracy, and liberalism in general.Dec 31 08:54
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gnufreexschestowitz: religious capitalims zealots are nasty too.Dec 31 08:55
schestowitzReligious religiousDec 31 08:55
schestowitzOr 'religious'?Dec 31 08:55
gnufreexI don't getDec 31 08:55
schestowitzCause there's the real religious lobby, like the evangelists in the US who power the GOP using ignorance of peopleDec 31 08:55
schestowitz"Religion" is like trying to imply blind following, ignoranceDec 31 08:56
schestowitzSo it's just an insult, like "fascistic"Dec 31 08:56
gnufreexI meant those who say "Microsoft is a bussines [...] so stop complaining"Dec 31 08:56
schestowitzNotice how much they play into it versus freedomDec 31 08:57
gnufreex" Or else you are communist"Dec 31 08:57
schestowitzAnd RMS' joke is not helpingDec 31 08:57
gnufreexwhat RMS's joke?Dec 31 08:57
schestowitzHe spins the religion/religious stuff as Grav-mass and St. Ignucios [spelling] and people take it out of contextDec 31 08:57
gnufreexst. IGNUcius?Dec 31 08:57
schestowitzThey used the "emacs virgin" joke to imply sexismDec 31 08:58
schestowitzWhen it fact it was oppositeDec 31 08:58
gnufreexI read it.Dec 31 08:58
schestowitzMaking fun of a cult that *is* sexistDec 31 08:58
gnufreexIt was ASSLESS trollDec 31 08:58
schestowitzHe found a new person to obsess overDec 31 08:59
schestowitzBut anyway..Dec 31 08:59
gnufreexWho is he attacking now?Dec 31 08:59
schestowitzIt's not about the people right now, it's the daemonisation of freedomDec 31 08:59
schestowitzThat's how they keep the likes of Nader and CHomsky off the mainstreamDec 31 08:59
schestowitzYou need only watch one day of CNN propaganda (or Fox for the extreme) to see why. Michael Moore did manage to stay somewhere visible.Dec 31 09:00
schestowitzAlthough CNN/Wolf hardly invite himDec 31 09:00
schestowitzThey mostly invite fluffy ones like Gates and celebs or athletesDec 31 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Yea @fabsh, where the hell is the previously unreleased jezra interview?Dec 31 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Excellent rebuttal against media's !Wikileaks misinformation even my granola-hippie friends still believe cc:@jamesbcarpDec 31 09:00
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schestowitzA lot of people take that for granted and the pedestal is used in this way, as a form of self-fulfilling prophecy that projects the preimposed viewsDec 31 09:01
schestowitzRMS is rarely on big-time TV even though he's a very major contibutorDec 31 09:01
schestowitzGuess who was invited to Charlie Rose? Linus.Dec 31 09:01
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schestowitzFree market cronyismDec 31 09:02
gnufreexYeah. They invite Linus because he lets absolutely everyone have they way. His 'no politics' mean 'companies do politics and get their way'.Dec 31 09:03
gnufreexThat is why companies are promoting Linus and dssing RMSDec 31 09:03
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schestowitz"Why not include CUT FUNDING for ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS living ON WELFARE in our state? This is what happen when liberals in our state has the notion..."Dec 31 09:03
schestowitzWatch them give Microsoft tax exemptionsDec 31 09:03
schestowitzWhile cutting down schoolsDec 31 09:03
schestowitzMaking people dumber...Dec 31 09:03
gnufreexAnd I think Linus is doing it mostly because he wants money and exposure.Dec 31 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I cannot manage my contacts on diaspora due to error 500 on every single page related to aspects. Diaspora is a #fail... 31 09:04
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gnufreexHe don't care what happens with Linux on higher level.Dec 31 09:04
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schestowitzgnufreex: Linus is not the problemDec 31 09:06
schestowitzIt's those who put all focus on him *consciously* who cause problemDec 31 09:06
schestowitzLinus does good workDec 31 09:06
schestowitzBut those who use Linus FOundation (e.g. IBM, Intel, CBS) to rewrite the story of FOSS are the problemDec 31 09:07
schestowitzThey want to just exploit and reform it, IMHODec 31 09:07
schestowitz"They're a business, you can't blame them"Dec 31 09:07
schestowitzUntil people are crushed more and more (see video above with TSA rant), they'll say, "let it be, I can live with that"Dec 31 09:08
schestowitzWhen WA cuts down programmes and people live in tent cities they'll care more, but by that time it gets too later.Dec 31 09:09
schestowitz*late.Dec 31 09:09
gnufreexI think he is. He attack all those who defends interests of Free Software, call them extremists and such. They practicaly removes them from development proces. And companies are giving him exposure becuase he is like that. If he stood up against companies (for blobs or such) they would not like him too much.Dec 31 09:09
schestowitzBecause they have nothing left and those who robbed them (banks etc) have all the power, the lobbyists, and govt. Reps.Dec 31 09:09
gnufreexAnd he wouldn't get exposure and cash.Dec 31 09:09
schestowitzThe USA is becoming like the USSR with oligarchs.Dec 31 09:09
schestowitzgnufreex: he doesn't quite attack themDec 31 09:10
schestowitzAnd it's a rarity, tooDec 31 09:10
schestowitzThey are mostly attacked by other peopleDec 31 09:10
schestowitzMr. Mac (A) actually does more attckingDec 31 09:10
gnufreexThat is really the problem. He does it subltle, but he privately told people that he hates RMS.Dec 31 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 48: Escapism or Some Macros 31 09:10
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schestowitzBy MacDec 31 09:11
schestowitzBTW, he works on proprietary s/w nowDec 31 09:11
gnufreexHe claims he works of "open source"Dec 31 09:11
schestowitzHis views are more troubling to me than Linus', but he has no influenceDec 31 09:11
schestowitzHe does, however (or did), help disrupt a major distroDec 31 09:11
gnufreexProbably because that clod thing is free of chargeDec 31 09:11
schestowitzUbuntu took the userjuice out of all distrosDec 31 09:12
schestowitzMandriva one of the victims..Dec 31 09:12
schestowitzAnd then they shoved a Bong search bar into FF (cancelled at last moment after massive outcry)Dec 31 09:12
schestowitzAnd Fog ComputingDec 31 09:12
schestowitzAt least now he takes it into another company+boardDec 31 09:12
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schestowitzDaemonFC is a little quirky todayDec 31 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Year's Message: From Pessimism To Optimism... And The Power Of Innovation - @mmasnick looks back and forwardDec 31 09:14
schestowitzgnufreex: maybe it's good that there's 'open source'Dec 31 09:14
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DaemonFCI've been back and forth tearing that desk apartDec 31 09:14
schestowitzAt least people can't meddle with the notion of Free software that wayDec 31 09:14
DaemonFCI'm a little winded right now from popping some welds with a screwdriverDec 31 09:14
gnufreexWell, I don't doubt that.Dec 31 09:14
schestowitzThey can try to hijack "open source" - not just Microsoft does thisDec 31 09:14
schestowitzFSF has raised over 200k so farDec 31 09:14
gnufreexYeah.Dec 31 09:15
schestowitzProbably including those donations from IBM etcDec 31 09:15
schestowitzLike 50kDec 31 09:15
schestowitzThis way IBM is left alone by FSFDec 31 09:15
gnufreexIt goes slow.Dec 31 09:15
DaemonFCI hate disposing of furnitureDec 31 09:15
schestowitzNo criticismDec 31 09:15
schestowitzSlience moneyDec 31 09:15
schestowitzMicrosoft paid UpdegroveDec 31 09:15
DaemonFCfiguring out how to make this stuff fit in trash bagsDec 31 09:15
schestowitzAnd Redmonk...Dec 31 09:15
schestowitzApache...Dec 31 09:15
schestowitzSo they are 'gagged'Dec 31 09:15
gnufreexschestowitz: That money counter on FSF site, it counts what they got from 'patrons' ?Dec 31 09:15
schestowitzI reckon soDec 31 09:16
schestowitzI started at around 100k last monthDec 31 09:16
gnufreexThey only plan to use half of milon for whole year...? that sucks.Dec 31 09:16
gnufreexI thought they hire some folks.Dec 31 09:16
gnufreexto hack.Dec 31 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Argl. Now even gives me an error 500! #nothappy 31 09:17
schestowitzgnufreex: hardlyDec 31 09:17
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schestowitzRMS told me their donations were downDec 31 09:17
schestowitzThat's whay I worry in partDec 31 09:17
schestowitz^^hmmm... bot bug..., never seen that symptomDec 31 09:17
schestowitzMaybe just titles of the 500 error pagesDec 31 09:18
schestowitzFSF is being marginalisedDec 31 09:18
schestowitzThey can deny it all they wantDec 31 09:18
schestowitzThe Savannah RSS feed is nearly abandonedDec 31 09:19
schestowitzObscurity can assure people will pass over the FSF and not help it with resourcesDec 31 09:19
schestowitzAnd without FSF all we gave left is what? BSD? Canonical? LOL.Dec 31 09:19
schestowitzOSI is also quite defunctDec 31 09:20
gnufreexCanonical might be the reason why people don't donate to FSF>Dec 31 09:20
schestowitzNo blog posts, Webmink replied to me re their site being down for days without anyone taking over itDec 31 09:20
gnufreexCanonical sponsors trolls that attack FSF>Dec 31 09:20
gnufreex.Dec 31 09:20
schestowitzgnufreex: how so?Dec 31 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ministers must 'wise up not clam up' after #WikiLeaks disclosures - nice to see someone drawing the right conclusionDec 31 09:20
schestowitzoh, thatDec 31 09:20
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schestowitzThey don't sponsor themDec 31 09:20
schestowitzBut they hired such a COODec 31 09:20
schestowitzand they harbour them in their forumsDec 31 09:21
schestowitzLike RedditDec 31 09:21
schestowitzThey foster a culture when people are told repeatedly the FSF is like a crazy churchDec 31 09:21
schestowitzWherein they focus on appearance of a person and not the messageDec 31 09:21
schestowitzSame tactics are not being employed vs WikileaksDec 31 09:21
schestowitzThe parallels don't apply just to hacker groupsDec 31 09:22
schestowitzWhat a load of fluff @ 31 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In 2011 !Canonical ought to do more against #swpats -- with their position (using others' labour) comes responsibility. Freedom ain't free.Dec 31 09:25
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schestowitzAny GNU partiesDec 31 09:26
schestowitzHow come nobody describes these are Mark worship?Dec 31 09:26
schestowitzOnly the FSF (and maybe Apple) get that sort of religious atrib.Dec 31 09:26
schestowitz*attrib.Dec 31 09:26
gnufreexHm... interesting coincidence. I was jus reading The-Source.Dec 31 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Foo Fighters - Just recently got into them, not bad choons.Dec 31 09:27
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schestowitz"You must be logged in to post a comment."Dec 31 09:28
schestowitzOf course..Dec 31 09:28
schestowitz is also hardly active since 2009Dec 31 09:28
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schestowitzJust the occasionally Apple boostingDec 31 09:29
schestowitzApple exploits people like himDec 31 09:29
schestowitzThey think they do good for society by advancing Apple's powerDec 31 09:29
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TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz Open source is a great philosophy and I embrace it. But *not* supporting it doesn't make someone a bad person or immoral.Dec 31 09:31
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TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz I'm not saying open source is a religion. I'm saying that there are those pushing it as one. Same with *any* movement.Dec 31 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie what does that have to do with religion? I believe that all sorts of things are amoral/immoral, not for religious reasons.Dec 31 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie but are there any examples of FOSS being pushed as "a religion"? I asked for specific examples, waiting for an answer, still.Dec 31 09:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz People could also announce rewards for making #OpenSource wireless cards  device drivers.Like adafruit did for kinectDec 31 09:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz most wireless cards don't even have proprietary drivers for #LinuxDec 31 09:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 09:32:54 UTC - @adhimitra_india helping KINect is helping proprietary software+hardware (Microsoft), so not a good example there.Dec 31 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz check ;-) (Full Disclosure: I am one of the creators of that)Dec 31 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @notriddle: Jimbo Wales-style banner is done. Just untar it, put png & js somewhere, and add script to HTML 31 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gotunandan You mean like @sil? ;)Dec 31 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Doesn't exist. I'm making fun of people.... ;)Dec 31 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Assange vows to release all files in case of death or incarceration - last bit is new, no? (v @Asher_ ...Dec 31 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmmm..... Now..... Get a Nexus S or have @methoddan fly to FOSDEM? Hmmmm...... Nexus S, Dan. Dan, Nexus S.... ;)Dec 31 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] As 2010 sets, a sad recount of how the SUN finally set - #fbDec 31 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adventures in Linux, UNIX, Bash, and beyond: Watching the SUN Set .::. Size~: 47.7 KBDec 31 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] No. No. People. It gets cold in Arizona normally. Stop saying that. It's cold in Phoenix that's exceptional.Dec 31 10:14
gnufreexWhat a load of rubish.Dec 31 10:30
gnufreexSun didn't die because of open source, propriatary software never made money for them either.Dec 31 10:30
gnufreexAnd Solaris 10 was never opensouirced.Dec 31 10:31
DaemonFCSCOlarisDec 31 10:34
DaemonFCOracle is to SCO as Solaris is to UnixWareDec 31 10:34
DaemonFC:)Dec 31 10:34
DaemonFCtheir making Solaris proprietary again is like clinging to a sinking ship and drilling a few more holesDec 31 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to really vintage !Dylan and reading news feeds...Dec 31 10:35
gnufreexHahaDec 31 10:35
DaemonFCtheir business strategy makes no sense at allDec 31 10:36
gnufreexI wouldn't put it better myselfDec 31 10:36
DaemonFCit's a recipe for a quicker deathDec 31 10:36
gnufreexHere is what Sun *really* should have done:Dec 31 10:36
gnufreexOpensource SunOS kernle under GPLv3Dec 31 10:36
gnufreexKeep userland propiratary.Dec 31 10:36
gnufreexWait until Debian ports SunOS to GlibcDec 31 10:37
gnufreexAnd GCCDec 31 10:37
gnufreexand makes GNU/SunOS.Dec 31 10:37
DaemonFCthe UNIX market right now is basically dead, the revenue coming in is smaller every year, and it's because nobody is buying new systems with UNIX, and the only money coming in is from existing installsDec 31 10:37
gnufreexThen make Solaris 11 on top of GNU/SunOSDec 31 10:37
DaemonFCthey should have gotten into Linux somehow instead of trying to keep Solaris goingDec 31 10:37
gnufreexAnd drop scc and Sun userlandDec 31 10:38
DaemonFCthere is a GNU on Solaris, NexentaDec 31 10:38
gnufreexI knowDec 31 10:38
gnufreexBut it is not on glibcDec 31 10:38
gnufreexSo doesnt have all packagesDec 31 10:38
gnufreexand it sucksDec 31 10:38
DaemonFCI don't think Solaris was that special anywayDec 31 10:39
DaemonFCespecially not on x86Dec 31 10:39
gnufreexSunOS kernel is specialDec 31 10:39
gnufreexIt scales to heavenDec 31 10:39
DaemonFCThey sent me a Solaris 10 DVD for freeDec 31 10:39
gnufreexBut Linux will now scale to, when BKL is dead.Dec 31 10:40
DaemonFCit was alright but I didn't keep it longDec 31 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Follow Rod: Linden Lab's New CEO's is @rodvik on Twitter - but does anyone care any more? #secondlifeDec 31 10:40
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DaemonFCSecond Life is so boringDec 31 10:41
DaemonFCI managed to get banned to the corn field when I had enough of the place and strapped a penis onto my avatar and streaked through mormon land :PDec 31 10:42
gnufreexscrew second life, I can't manage the first one.Dec 31 10:42
Diablo-D3screw second life, I'm banging your momDec 31 10:42
gnufreexDaemonFC: You used Solaris on desktop?Dec 31 10:43
DaemonFCyeahDec 31 10:43
gnufreexWhat hardware you have?Dec 31 10:43
gnufreexIt is very slow on dual core and single coreDec 31 10:43
DaemonFCthey sent me one DVD for Sparc and one for x86/x86-64Dec 31 10:43
DaemonFCworked fine for me, and that system was a Core 2 DuoDec 31 10:43
Diablo-D3solaris isnt slow in that wayDec 31 10:43
Diablo-D3as a desktop OS, it'd run as fast as anything elseDec 31 10:44
gnufreexWhen I tried it on low spec computers, it was dog slow.Dec 31 10:44
DaemonFCit detects whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit x86 processor and picks which kernel to loadDec 31 10:44
gnufreexBut on big servers, it rocksDec 31 10:44
DaemonFCI put OpenSolaris on my laptop :)Dec 31 10:45
DaemonFC1 gb of RAM and a Sempron 3000Dec 31 10:45
DaemonFCnot exactly a top of the line systemDec 31 10:45
gnufreexI had openSolaris on laptop until recently.Dec 31 10:45
Diablo-D3the speed isnt really the issueDec 31 10:46
Diablo-D3also, it sucks on x86 periodDec 31 10:46
gnufreexIt was slower than GNU/Linux, but not that much.Dec 31 10:46
Diablo-D3its just that usability wise, it sucksDec 31 10:46
Diablo-D3the only way solaris will ever become popular is if debian makes a ksolaris distroDec 31 10:46
gnufreexSun screwed that with CDDLDec 31 10:46
gnufreexCorporate Decision about Destroying LinuxDec 31 10:47
gnufreexWell, it backfired badlyDec 31 10:47
Diablo-D3my point stands, howeverDec 31 10:47
gnufreexwhat point?Dec 31 10:47
Diablo-D3[05:45:39] <Diablo-D3> the only way solaris will ever become popular is if debian makes a ksolaris distroDec 31 10:48
gnufreexYeah... that means never.Dec 31 10:48
gnufreex:-)Dec 31 10:48
Diablo-D3basically.Dec 31 10:48
Diablo-D3although theres nex... nex... whatever the hell it isDec 31 10:49
Diablo-D3debian-like on top of solarisDec 31 10:49
Diablo-D3problem is, they used ubuntu as the baseDec 31 10:49
Diablo-D3and on top of that, they fucked it upDec 31 10:49
gnufreexProblem is that half stuff doesn't work and won't compileDec 31 10:49
gnufreexI triedDec 31 10:49
gnufreexsun libc is half propriataryDec 31 10:49
gnufreexanywatsDec 31 10:49
gnufreex*anywaysDec 31 10:49
gnufreexIt is a binary blob, and Oracle won't compile it anymoreDec 31 10:50
gnufreexso it will die due to bit rotDec 31 10:50
Diablo-D3basically, yeahDec 31 10:50
Diablo-D3although illumos wants to fix thatDec 31 10:50
gnufreexYeah. Forgot that.Dec 31 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love "Rambling Willie". :D !DylanDec 31 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The Gnome:Ayatana Project 31 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Bold words from John F. Kennedy on why we need !Wikileaks: Especially as he lied abt Vietnam: 31 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The Gnome:Ayatana Project .::. Size~: 25.47 KBDec 31 10:52
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gnufreexAlso, what kind of idiot thinks that people will switch OS because of filesystem and dinamic tracing system?Dec 31 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Joy of #Stats (fab BBC video by Hans Rosling) - I hated stats when I was studying #maths; I think I made a mistakeDec 31 10:55
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gnufreexGnu/Linux already had XFS which is faster than ZFS.Dec 31 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh hmm :)Dec 31 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] 8-bit RPG Gurk Now in Android Market 31 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, the last sunset of 2010 in my part of the planet. 2011 - here we come! Happy new year all! #fbDec 31 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! 31 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! http://ur ...Dec 31 11:17
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cubezzzNew Linux audio blog done:Dec 31 11:19
cubezzz 31 11:20
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schestowitz 31 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz Wotz diss??! Freedom ain't free?! That's Crypto-Fascist Talk like NewSpeak! Rubbish! FREEDOM is FREE for EVERYBODY!Dec 31 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Totally agree!Dec 31 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer that one too is a ripoff or derivative of many prior thinkers, some of whom from MIT. This one hasn't elements of Paganism.Dec 31 11:20
gnufreexlolDec 31 11:21
gnufreexWho is that FreeAdviceMan1Dec 31 11:21
schestowitzNO IDEADec 31 11:21
schestowitzoopsDec 31 11:21
schestowitzno ideaDec 31 11:21
gnufreexThere is no such thing as a free advice.Dec 31 11:21
gnufreexyou need to compute it yourselfDec 31 11:22
gnufreexOr else, it is not freeDec 31 11:22
gnufreex:-)Dec 31 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@FreeAdviceMan1 what I meant was, freedom as in free speech is something you must always work to defend,it doesn't come cheaply or for freeDec 31 11:22
schestowitz 31 11:22
TechrightsBot-tr@klikunikom: via @adhimitra_india @schestowitz most wireless cards don't even have proprietary drivers for #LinuxDec 31 11:22
schestowitz 31 11:22
TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think perhaps you are misunderstanding my use of the word "religion". I don't mean "with a deity" but rather the blind zeal.Dec 31 11:22
schestowitzArtistic use of the word "religion"Dec 31 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hopefully MMX was good for all of you ! Looking forward to a better MMXI #happy #newyearDec 31 11:24
gnufreexI see he is pointing RMS, but whole point of RMS' argument is not to take anything blindly, and think with your head.Dec 31 11:24
gnufreexDrop the assumption and compute it again.Dec 31 11:24
schestowitz 31 11:24
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @CajunTechie @schestowitz there are even in India.FSF volunteers mail LUG managers to change name to GLUG and are guite rudeDec 31 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie if you refer to anything -- inc. !FSF -- as a "religion", then by definition it ought to imply deities, of which there's noneDec 31 11:25
schestowitz 31 11:25
TechrightsBot-tr@jwildeboer: @schestowitz check ;-) (Full Disclosure: I am one of the creators of that)Dec 31 11:25
schestowitzFunny siteDec 31 11:26
schestowitzDid you see it?Dec 31 11:26
schestowitz 31 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think my example of @RMS defining peoples morals and ethics by if they embrace free software or not is a good example of thatDec 31 11:27
gnufreexWhat a bunch of rubish.Dec 31 11:28
schestowitz 31 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @CajunTechie @schestowitz people want you to boycott Facebook,etc..Where's the freedom then?Its my personal choice or peer pressure?!Dec 31 11:28
schestowitzgnufreex: yeahDec 31 11:28
schestowitzI have tons of messages like this from the past housDec 31 11:28
schestowitz*housDec 31 11:29
schestowitz*hourDec 31 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen I think that going along the thinking of Gandhi, #India needs !GNU values more than those which are associated only w/ the kernelDec 31 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the !LO 183 show notes. Lots of work....Dec 31 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I added my current problems with error 500 all over the place to hoping it wi... 31 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie @rms also does activism in copyright (culture); so he defines people by their sharing (wealth, culture, code), not just !fsDec 31 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Diaspora - Bug #734: Requests - Error in aspects/manage - Diaspora Issue Tracker .::. Size~: 10.45 KBDec 31 11:29
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gnufreexThey spread religion.Dec 31 11:29
schestowitz 31 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz no.They are using it by open source device driver for Kinect.California researchers hacked it for World of Warcraft recently...Dec 31 11:29
gnufreexRelion that Free Software is religious.Dec 31 11:29
gnufreexThat claim can only be described as blind religion. It has no basis in reality.Dec 31 11:30
schestowitz 31 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz They plan to use the open driver to use to to have gesture based control for PCs.Like MIT's #SixthSense aims to(though not 4 PCDec 31 11:30
schestowitz 31 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz As of now most hardware is proprietary. Open source hardware is a very small percentageDec 31 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen the freedom means *preservation* of solidarity/autonomy, not freedom of action (which is the 'freedom' Corps/Friedmanism preach)Dec 31 11:30
oiaohmReally there is a difference between Free Software and Religion.  Free Software can be proven to exist.Dec 31 11:30
schestowitz 31 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz processor,wi-fi card,hard disk,etc. None are open source hardwareDec 31 11:30
schestowitz 31 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr@RoadPackerGroup: The RoadPacker Group Ltd Daily is out! ▸ Top stories today by @ogieboogie @twittfeed @solarpowerjohn @schestowitzDec 31 11:31
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gnufreexOnly thing that might lead that way is word 'beleive'. By words, you can also call it communism by fact that there is a 'community.Dec 31 11:31
schestowitz 31 11:31
TechrightsBot-tr@FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz STILL WRONG! FREEDOM does not have to be DEFENDED! People have to be defended! FREE SPEECH is its own DEFENSE and costs NOTHINGDec 31 11:31
schestowitz"Free Advice"Dec 31 11:31
DaemonFCRPM Fusion finally built Catalyst for Fedora 14Dec 31 11:32
schestowitz 31 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr@FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz You are simply falling for one of the Oldest Tricks in The Book! Today's Pseudo-Conservatives are mostly Fascists!Dec 31 11:32
gnufreexschestowitz: I bet those folks are like Linsux trolls.Dec 31 11:32
gnufreexProbably paid.Dec 31 11:33
schestowitz 31 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @FreeAdviceMan1 I can agree on the latter pointDec 31 11:33
oiaohmThen lines are Linsux quality.Dec 31 11:33
schestowitzgnufreex: weirdDec 31 11:33
gnufreexOr if not paid, then probably have their own vested interest.Dec 31 11:33
oiaohmFree Speech is it own defence.   Has FreeAdviceMan not read history.Dec 31 11:33
schestowitz 31 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr@FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz Repeating cleverly worded but dangerously incorrect messages that are devised to give unjustified power to elites is THE THREATDec 31 11:33
oiaohmPeople have had to fight for the right of freespeech.Dec 31 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@adhimitra_india it helps Microsoft makes profits, which in turn it uses to lobby for #swpats and sue companies that distribute !gnu !linuxDec 31 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@FreeAdviceMan1 people's rights need to be defended as a "collective". Defending them one by one while ignoring lawmaking would not work.Dec 31 11:34
oiaohmMany times in history speak freely was get head cut off.Dec 31 11:34
schestowitz 31 11:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: @FreeAdviceMan1 you are not refuting me here, I agree with your latter pointDec 31 11:34
gnufreexI think free speech is mostly dead now.Dec 31 11:34
oiaohmWe have to always defend the right to freespeech.Dec 31 11:34
gnufreexYou don't get jailed, but you get character assasination if those in power don't like youDec 31 11:35
oiaohmIts not fully dead. But be have one hell of a fight ahead.  gnufreexDec 31 11:35
cubezzzwe have free speech, especially if you're an unknown john smith typeDec 31 11:35
cubezzzthe only prob is no one listens to you :)Dec 31 11:35
oiaohmCharacter Assination normally does not work out in the end.Dec 31 11:36
schestowitz[10:34] <DaemonFC> Oracle is to SCO as Solaris is to UnixWareDec 31 11:37
schestowitzORCL gets Linux/Unix patents via CPTNDec 31 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! http://ur ...Dec 31 11:37
DaemonFCthen they attackDec 31 11:37
schestowitzWith CaPTaiN BallmerDec 31 11:37
gnufreexlolDec 31 11:37
schestowitzWeirdly enough SCOracle is a top funder of the FSF!Dec 31 11:37
oiaohmOracle is a odd ball company.Dec 31 11:38
oiaohmAlways has been.Dec 31 11:38
gnufreexschestowitz: That is Sun, just relabeled.Dec 31 11:38
oiaohmNever able to work out if they should be closed or open source.Dec 31 11:38
gnufreexIn fact....Dec 31 11:38
gnufreexI remember.Dec 31 11:38
oiaohmSo end up doing stupid things.Dec 31 11:38
gnufreexBoth Oracle and Sun were in "over 25 000"Dec 31 11:38
gnufreexSo Oracle should now be in $50 000Dec 31 11:39
oiaohmOracle also funds the Linux foundation and other open source entiers.Dec 31 11:39
gnufreexgroupDec 31 11:39
oiaohmBasically Orcale is one confused beast.Dec 31 11:39
gnufreexWait....Dec 31 11:40
gnufreexI see MO of OracleDec 31 11:40
DaemonFCOracle still has that Unbreakable LinuxDec 31 11:40
DaemonFCbasically it's just a RHEL cloneDec 31 11:40
gnufreexThey are not killing GPL projects. Just CDDL ones.Dec 31 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @maymaym Bold words from John F. Kennedy on why we need !WL Esp. as he lied abt Vietnam 31 11:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Why We Need WikiLeaks    .::. Size~: 124.36 KBDec 31 11:40
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gnufreexBut CPTN is dangerousDec 31 11:40
gnufreexThey could circumvent GPL patent grant with that.Dec 31 11:41
gnufreexCPTN distributes nothing.Dec 31 11:41
oiaohmReally fine print.Dec 31 11:41
oiaohmOIN agreement that Orcale does depend on could be rendered void for Oracle of CPTN takes actions .Dec 31 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @royhugo ♺ @Rezonet: John Pilger in conversation with Julian Assange 31 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: John Pilger in conversation with Julian Assange on Vimeo .::. Size~: 64.68 KBDec 31 11:42
oiaohmSo Orcale would have to produce documents that they were out voted.   gnufreexDec 31 11:42
oiaohmGoogle went out of there way to avoid having GPL requirements in android.Dec 31 11:43
oiaohmYet the little bit that was left Android tablets have not followed.Dec 31 11:44
gnufreexIMHO, google could switch to GPL now since they have momentum already.Dec 31 11:45
gnufreexNo way device makers will drop android.Dec 31 11:46
gnufreexAnd if they do, then Google could pick up one or two of them.Dec 31 11:46
gnufreexMotorola phones division for example.Dec 31 11:46
oiaohmReally we want meego and android as 1 and 2.Dec 31 11:47
schestowitz 31 11:47
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz Exactly why more people side with #OpenSource than #FOSSDec 31 11:47
gnufreexYepDec 31 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen but people are rarely shown both sides of this debate, where "open source" is always promoted by corporate media and !fsf shunnedDec 31 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @macno: I'm updating to 0.2 #brdcstDec 31 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There is very grave danger... censorship and cocealment" - -Kennedy 31 11:55
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gnufreexschestowitz: When I said you should wait with the book on Novell, this is what I predicted. OSI might now stall aquisition, and Novell might report loses, and it might get bought for peanuts at the end. So, book should writte about that too. So that reader is even more convinced that boycott worked :-)Dec 31 11:59
gnufreex( I meant book should say about novell being sold for peanuts, not my prediction. That is irrelevant)Dec 31 12:00
schestowitz 31 12:16
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schestowitzgnufreex: Novell is not sold yetDec 31 12:17
schestowitzIt might be blockedDec 31 12:17
gnufreexThat is what I am sayingDec 31 12:17
schestowitzAttachMSFT needs to find a borrower too, it's still lookingDec 31 12:17
schestowitz"About a year ago i split up with the PDP-10 computer to which I was married for ten years." 31 12:17
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schestowitzBy the way, in case you wonder why RMS hides his childhoodDec 31 12:19
schestowitz 31 12:19
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gnufreexI read that.Dec 31 12:20
gnufreexI read pretty much everything on RMS.Dec 31 12:20
schestowitz'All I remember is his stepsister coming to me and saying, `What is he going to be when he grows up? A fascist?'" 'Dec 31 12:23
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 31 12:23
gnufreexlolDec 31 12:23
-Martinp23-[Global Notice] As the first parts of the world start to enter 2011, all of us here at freenode & PDPC would like to wish you a fantastic New Year and a great 2011. This is the only global notice we'll send about the new year celebrations - further messages will be sent using wallops - do /umode +w to see them (and if you want to join the party, /j #freenode-newyears). Thanks for flying freenode over 2010 and here's to 2011!Dec 31 12:24
schestowitzI didn't know he had worked at IBMDec 31 12:33
schestowitzLike EbenDec 31 12:33
gnufreexHe also worked for intel as consultant.Dec 31 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @veeence Loading 2011... ███████████████ 99.73%Dec 31 12:34
gnufreexPorted GCC to i960Dec 31 12:34
gnufreexOr that other RISC chip from intel... i460Dec 31 12:34
gnufreexor whatever they called it.Dec 31 12:34
schestowitzPaul Graham's troll essay ... interesting reading 31 12:47
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schestowitzmicrosoft is dead: an essay by Paul Graham 31 12:48
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schestowitzok, back to hacking..Dec 31 12:50
schestowitzI spent 2 hours reading..Dec 31 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "If you believe in a representative democracy then the first past the post system is not very good at delivering it" Prof John Curtice todayDec 31 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Prof Steven Fielding "Politicians can be more successful if they can mould how people think" todayDec 31 13:02
schestowitz 31 13:06
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz mainstream non-technical media doesn't even give space to open source.Dec 31 13:06
schestowitz 31 13:06
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz What, in your opinion, would be advantages of FOSS over open source? Today most open source is FOSS anyway.So understanding..Dec 31 13:06
schestowitz 31 13:06
TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz So understanding FOSS's importance is difficult as its dominant in open source worldDec 31 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen I don't think of it as "FOSS". I assess values necessary to ensure autonomy & personal power. [F]reedom in "FOSS" is one of them.Dec 31 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen When you do not control the software that you use, someone else controls you, i.e. gains power over your life -> digital slaveryDec 31 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen If you were to talk about freedom of speech, unless you are given rights+platform (e.g. free press), your needs will be abolishedDec 31 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz @CajunTechie Fanatics? No. I did suggest that using Proprietary Software wasn't morally right for any church.Dec 31 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mrosero: @lxoliva: esto es lo que he estado haciendo que deberia hacer #jedi !fsflaDec 31 13:55
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TechrightsBot-tr@aveeksen: @schestowitz So understanding FOSS's importance is difficult as its dominant in open source worldDec 31 13:59
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TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz You can say that. True completely. But what about wi-fi cards?Dec 31 13:59
schestowitz 31 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz That you don't get drivers for Linux is clearly #Microsoft lobby's doing.(Brocade's is one such wi-fi card manufacturer)Dec 31 13:59
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TechrightsBot-tr@adhimitra_india: @schestowitz moreover if you use kinect with open drivers for something else Microsoft doesn't earn on it, except for Kinect's salesDec 31 13:59
schestowitzWait, WHAT?Dec 31 13:59
schestowitzSales are all it's about..Dec 31 13:59
oiaohmOk what date is adhimtra talking about.Dec 31 13:59
schestowitzNot sureDec 31 13:59
schestowitzBut he's no trollDec 31 14:00
schestowitzHe supports my work afaikDec 31 14:00
oiaohmBecause Broadcom has been releasing drivers to the Linux kernel directly.Dec 31 14:00
oiaohmFor there wificardsDec 31 14:00
oiaohmin the last 6 months.Dec 31 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks: discord over US support for Canadian tar sands oil pipeline - "higher environmental footprint"Dec 31 14:00
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oiaohmLinux market share is now large enough that hardware makers cannot ingnore as much as they use to.Dec 31 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hackers crack open #GSM networks to eavesdrop on mobile calls - but "will not release the kit for others to use"Dec 31 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks' #Assange: 2,000 sites now have all documents - very wise (v @Asher_Wolf @McClatchyDC)Dec 31 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Techeye Bible - Ye BOOK of PROPHERCY of the TABLETS CHAPT. VII: 31 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tsinghua University, Mozilla Launch Browser For IPv6 - #china leapfrogging the West? #mozilla #ipv6Dec 31 14:10
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twittergood morningDec 31 14:13
twitterdid you catch what PJ say about fat32 and NTFS licensing yesterday?Dec 31 14:14
twitter 31 14:14
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twitter=> "Companies who have licensed FAT patents from Microsoft cannot use the publicly available GPL-licensed VFAT implementation," noted Mikko Välimäki, Tuxera CEO and recognized open source legal expert.Dec 31 14:16
twitterWhy does Microsoft hate your software freedom?  Because Microsoft can't survive if you have it.Dec 31 14:16
schestowitzI noticed thatDec 31 14:17
schestowitzBut I don't blog this weekendDec 31 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blimey! #choqok keeps creating like 30 instances of kio_http,each weighing around 20 MB. Badly-behaving plugin? Very heavy for a reader.Dec 31 14:17
twittercoolDec 31 14:17
schestowitzRight not I'm inspecting hearts :-)Dec 31 14:17
twittervery coolDec 31 14:17
schestowitzA friend of mine who studies medicine in Hungary (where MinceR lives) might join me later this year if we make some startupDec 31 14:18
schestowitzMinceR: Or Ban is getting quite the reputation thereDec 31 14:18
schestowitzBut they don't agree with you about the "Nazi" partDec 31 14:18
MinceRperhaps they define "nazi" differentlyDec 31 14:19
twitterTuxera should be taken with a grain of salt because they were one of the first companies to license exFAT from Microsoft.Dec 31 14:19
MinceRschestowitz: what reputation is he getting?Dec 31 14:20
twitterThe bit about forbidding GPL distribution was worth noting for me.Dec 31 14:20
schestowitzRogue regimeDec 31 14:20
gnufreextwitter: That is trueDec 31 14:21
gnufreexLiberty or death clauseDec 31 14:21
gnufreexgoogle it.Dec 31 14:21
gnufreexThat is very reason why GPL is great.Dec 31 14:21
twitterYes, but what does Microsoft licensing have to do with it?Dec 31 14:22
gnufreexYou will either use freedom and don't pay royalties, or find another software.Dec 31 14:22
twitterIt's just another case of Microsoft stomping on code they don't own.Dec 31 14:22
gnufreexIf you pay to Microsoft, you have no bussines using GP:'d sosftwareDec 31 14:22
gnufreexuse dozeDec 31 14:22
twitterA company might have made the mistake of licensing Microsoft for one thing.  That should not prevent them from ever making a free software friendly device again.Dec 31 14:23
schestowitzMinceR: it depends if by Nazi one refers to the type or to the German Nazi partyDec 31 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: We just released Linux Outlaws 183 - Darkfield Lasers (The Year 2010 in Review) -- Happy New Year!Dec 31 14:24
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gnufreextwitter: Well they would void licensing agreement if they give code under GPL that is patented.Dec 31 14:24
twitterThe real solution is to dump FAT and NTFS.Dec 31 14:25
gnufreexYes.Dec 31 14:25
gnufreexIf they dump it, they are not violating GPLDec 31 14:25
twitterTuxera was complaining about the size limitations and other problems of non patented FAT and NTFS, GPL covered code.Dec 31 14:25
gnufreexNo matter if they licensed M$ patents before.Dec 31 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Beijing opens five new metro lines in one day - incredible #china #2011Dec 31 14:25
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twitterPatent encumbered FAT and NTFS code still has problems that have been solved a lot better with free software file systems.  A user is better off with ext2.Dec 31 14:26
oiaohmReally work around to the FAT32 and before.Dec 31 14:26
oiaohmDon't use long and short filenames.Dec 31 14:26
gnufreexYeah, FAT32 short file names are not patentedDec 31 14:27
oiaohmAlready implemented in the main linux kernel.Dec 31 14:27
gnufreexToo damn obviousDec 31 14:27
oiaohmWhat is patented is making the short filename from the long filename.Dec 31 14:27
gnufreexonly long ones are patented.Dec 31 14:27
oiaohmNo the long filename is not patented.Dec 31 14:27
gnufreexand expires in 2017Dec 31 14:27
twitterall of it is ridiculousDec 31 14:27
oiaohmIf you have a short that is xxxxx and a long that is yyyyyyyyyyyyDec 31 14:27
schestowitzBy 2018 there might not be MicrosoftDec 31 14:27
schestowitzMicrosoft Licensing LLCDec 31 14:27
oiaohmfor the same file its legal.  gnufreexDec 31 14:28
oiaohmBut it does lead to some windows programs throwing a hissy fit.Dec 31 14:28
MinceRthey could just use ext3 and put the Ext2IFS installer on the driver discDec 31 14:28
gnufreexoiaohm: huh... I thought long ones are harder.Dec 31 14:28
twitterI'm reasonably sure Microsoft will be gone by 2018.Dec 31 14:28
MinceRwinblows users are used to installing all sorts of drivers and apps alreadyDec 31 14:28
schestowitz8 years is a long timeDec 31 14:28
twitter7Dec 31 14:28
schestowitz8 years ago Google was a startupDec 31 14:28
oiaohmexfat is really the one one of major issue.Dec 31 14:28
twitter6Dec 31 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China's Ministry Of Culture To Clear Illegal Music Websites - but will they this time #china #music #piracyDec 31 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Rumour has it that Nokia plans to release an #Android based tablet soonish. 31 14:29
oiaohmfat short and long file names is more of a laugh.Dec 31 14:29
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twitter5,4,3,2,1 boomDec 31 14:29
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schestowitzFireworks?!Dec 31 14:29
schestowitzoiaohm: what time in Aussie?Dec 31 14:29
twitterM$ implosion.Dec 31 14:29
oiaohm12:38 amDec 31 14:30
twitternot really exciting to watchDec 31 14:30
twittersatisfying but not so exciting.Dec 31 14:30
schestowitzAdelaide had it one hour agoDec 31 14:30
gnufreexFA(R)T was first made with short ones, IIRC. They shoehorned long ones later oiaohmDec 31 14:30
schestowitzamarsh04: happy 2011Dec 31 14:30
schestowitzAussie west coast still dueDec 31 14:30
oiaohmgnufreex: the long ones are a warped alteration on fat volume labels.Dec 31 14:30
schestowitzWhen Microsoft is over it's not overDec 31 14:30
twittertrueDec 31 14:31
gnufreexThat is when it really begginsDec 31 14:31
oiaohmgnufreex: and volume labels for fat are over 20 years old.  So not patented.   gnufreexDec 31 14:31
twitterbut Microsoft is a major pain driving most othersDec 31 14:31
schestowitzThey left a big mess in IV, Gates Fundamentalism, Ignition, and Traul AllenDec 31 14:31
oiaohmgnufreex: Only bit left patented is the way to make the short filename from the longfilename.  gnufreexDec 31 14:31
gnufreextwitter: Sad thing is that now all other sill pick up all their tricks. Even if Microsoft is gone.Dec 31 14:32
twitteryes and those continue to push software patents, ACTA, etc.Dec 31 14:32
gnufreexThey proved it can workDec 31 14:32
schestowitzThe antisoial elements from Microsoft are just dissipatedDec 31 14:32
oiaohmgnufreex: but if you don't care about sending some windows programs off the deep end you don't have to make them the patented way.  gnufreexDec 31 14:32
schestowitzLike blowing up a bucket of cockroachesDec 31 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] One tip enough to put name on watch list - a step away from putting *eveyone* on the list... #securitytheatreDec 31 14:32
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schestowitzThey can ensure a lot and end up in the whole neighbourhoodDec 31 14:32
schestowitz*ensdureDec 31 14:32
schestowitz*endureDec 31 14:32
gnufreexoiaohm: yeah... I got now.Dec 31 14:33
oiaohmexfat on the other hand is a way bigger problem.Dec 31 14:33
twitterIf software patents die, the non free software complex will collapse and the roaches will have to go back outside for a living where no one will notice them.Dec 31 14:34
oiaohmIt has some new techs.Dec 31 14:34
gnufreexYeah, they patented exFat recently.Dec 31 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Audiophiles - oh yes... #xkcdDec 31 14:34
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oiaohmAnd exfat got writen into a bit of hardware standard.Dec 31 14:34
twitterMicrosoft's FAT patents are part of their patent extortion against free software, something they only really got rolling around 1998 or so.Dec 31 14:35
twitterBill Gate's ACPI memo is proof of that line of thought.Dec 31 14:35
oiaohm2006 is when exfat came into existance as a implemented from.Dec 31 14:36
oiaohmSo 2026 before that bugger fully patent expires.Dec 31 14:36
schestowitzThey use consortia/std. bodies like host for in insectDec 31 14:36
twittersure, they started making public noise much later than they were thinking.Dec 31 14:37
schestowitzTo spread their sw seedDec 31 14:37
gnufreexoiaohm: In what hardware they put it?Dec 31 14:37
schestowitzCase of point: iso and mooxDec 31 14:37
oiaohmsdxc memory cards.  gnufreexDec 31 14:37
schestowitzexfat must have newer patentsDec 31 14:37
schestowitzit's the same tactic as MPEG-LA trollsDec 31 14:37
schestowitzLarry HornDec 31 14:37
oiaohmsdxc standard filesystem is only exfat nothing else.Dec 31 14:37
gnufreexwikipedia says exFat is propriatary patent pending standard.Dec 31 14:38
schestowitzBring a "newer" and "better" one once in a few years, push it as "iSO" "standard", push new patent trapsDec 31 14:38
schestowitzH.253..4...5Dec 31 14:38
gnufreexso no patents yet but it will be a bunch.Dec 31 14:38
schestowitzEven betterDec 31 14:38
schestowitzSubmarine patentsDec 31 14:38
schestowitzSo watch out..Dec 31 14:38
twitterWithout Microsoft, there's a better chance of getting rid of software patents.Dec 31 14:38
schestowitzYou don't know how to overcome the patents yetDec 31 14:38
twitterThe only way to overcome them is to end enforcement.Dec 31 14:39
schestowitzNow they add copyright tax to Linux tooDec 31 14:39
schestowitzNot with SCODec 31 14:39
schestowitzWith the French govt.Dec 31 14:39
schestowitzAnd MAFIAADec 31 14:39
gnufreexDoes anyone know for sure if this is real interview: 31 14:39
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twitterFreedom tax.Dec 31 14:39
schestowitzTheir same old cartel games.. 31 14:39
gnufreexSome claim it is fake.Dec 31 14:39
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oiaohmschestowitz: the french gov one is interesting.Dec 31 14:40
schestowitzMore taxesDec 31 14:40
schestowitzTo ensure nothing is freeDec 31 14:40
oiaohmIf android ever appears on laptops as a default OS magically over night  all android devices would no longer have to pay the tax.Dec 31 14:40
schestowitzThe only way for Microsoft to surviveDec 31 14:41
schestowitzMarkS said so ages agoDec 31 14:41
twitterI'm amazed France has not gotten rid of "Le American" yet.Dec 31 14:41
twitterthey must have implemented Microsoft based electronic voting.Dec 31 14:41
oiaohmWhen the rule was writen smart phones did not exist.  twitterDec 31 14:41
schestowitzTHey have their "inside foxes" thereDec 31 14:41
oiaohmtwitter: at least not the way we know them today.Dec 31 14:41
oiaohmBasically normal badly written goverment laws.Dec 31 14:41
schestowitzLike in almost every government (which has not been overthrown... yet)Dec 31 14:42
schestowitzSarko has mates at MicrosoftDec 31 14:42
schestowitzAnd he's not aloneDec 31 14:42
twitterSoftware and business methods are not just bad laws, they are bad ideas.Dec 31 14:42
schestowitzDoesn't matterDec 31 14:42
schestowitzIf a company with lobbyists gain from it, this will passDec 31 14:42
schestowitzSee bailoutDec 31 14:42
schestowitzIt doesn't need to make senseDec 31 14:42
schestowitzit need to make MONEYDec 31 14:42
twitterSarko has crapped on pension plans, working hours and all sorts of other things that made France a nice place to live.Dec 31 14:42
schestowitzSame in the UKDec 31 14:43
schestowitzWhich is so strange as both countries are former exploiters with coloniesDec 31 14:43
schestowitzNow China is the sleeping giantDec 31 14:43
schestowitztwitter: how's the US?Dec 31 14:43
twitterworse than ever.Dec 31 14:43
schestowitz"Living in America"(R)Dec 31 14:43
oiaohmschestowitz: China is more often than not a sleeping giantDec 31 14:44
schestowitzThe land of opportunityDec 31 14:44
oiaohmThrew out it history.Dec 31 14:44
schestowitz"Give me your poor"... I'm not sure even the poor wants to go there nowDec 31 14:44
oiaohmSo being a sleeping giant is nothing strange to china.Dec 31 14:44
oiaohmNow bligerent sleeping giant that would be a problem.Dec 31 14:44
schestowitzoiaohm: like the Chinese dragonDec 31 14:45
twitterThe US resembles Communist China more every day.Dec 31 14:45
schestowitzoiaohm: maybe they'll buy the nukes off Putin..Dec 31 14:45
schestowitzAs deterrent to Palin, US president 2012-2020Dec 31 14:45
oiaohmWhy would china need nukesDec 31 14:45
oiaohmThey have money to buy what ever they want.Dec 31 14:45
schestowitzBut..Dec 31 14:45
schestowitzThe US has leverageDec 31 14:45
oiaohmReally?Dec 31 14:46
schestowitzIncreasingly the CHinese can be assertiveDec 31 14:46
schestowitzThey can dump the USDDec 31 14:46
schestowitzAnd EuroDec 31 14:46
schestowitzSo they hold the EU and the US by the balls tooDec 31 14:46
twitteryesDec 31 14:46
schestowitzExport is what makes them rely on the latterDec 31 14:46
schestowitzSo here you have two blokes groping each others' ballsDec 31 14:46
schestowitzAnd nobody wants to pullDec 31 14:46
oiaohmHas anyone not noticed that the USA dollar and AUD are kinda equal at the moment.Dec 31 14:46
oiaohmthis is not historically normal.Dec 31 14:46
twitternot so much now because the US has crushing debts to China.Dec 31 14:46
schestowitzBut if China also had military power/deterrent, then the US can no longer impose things like ACTA on CHinaDec 31 14:47
oiaohmYet as the USD dropped our products here did not get cheaper.Dec 31 14:47
cubezzzoiaohm, yes it's very close to equalDec 31 14:47
schestowitzoiaohm: tureDec 31 14:47
schestowitzoiaohm: cheap to travel in the US now, I guessDec 31 14:47
twitterThe US can "impose" ACTA on China but China will blow it off internally.Dec 31 14:47
oiaohmAt the rate it changing I think I will wait until next year.Dec 31 14:47
oiaohmTo go to the USADec 31 14:47
oiaohmSince by then I should be able to get 1.5 for my 1.Dec 31 14:48
schestowitzC'monDec 31 14:48
schestowitzThey have TSADec 31 14:48
schestowitzFree sex at the airpornDec 31 14:48
twitteryou misspelled rapeDec 31 14:48
schestowitzWith some disgusting menDec 31 14:48
schestowitzThey wear blue glovesDec 31 14:49
oiaohmI have access to private jet or might decide for the fun of it to go cargo boat.Dec 31 14:49
oiaohmYep both avoid the scanner.Dec 31 14:49
schestowitzbiometric too?Dec 31 14:49
oiaohmbiometric the finger print shit.  you can avoid to a point.Dec 31 14:50
oiaohmDepends what airport you land on.Dec 31 14:50
twitterThere is a lot of damage to undo here in the US but the elimination of Microsoft and broadcast will fix a lot of it.Dec 31 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] can any #mozilla people tell me what this work in China was about, please? - sounds interesting... #ipv6Dec 31 14:50
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twitterBroadcast was how big companies manipulated public opinion in their favor.Dec 31 14:51
twitterThe consolidation of publishing is exactly why so many rights have vanished in the US over the last decade.Dec 31 14:52
oiaohmWe are currently up to 15 free to air channels here.Dec 31 14:52
oiaohmAnd growing.Dec 31 14:52
schestowitzGE+Microsoft+Comcast='news'Dec 31 14:53
twitterThe web is just starting to counter broadcast but broadcast will have its power until everyone realizes that "mainstream" is not majority opinion anymore.Dec 31 14:53
schestowitzFox for the leftistDec 31 14:53
schestowitzConcentrating on white vs vanillaDec 31 14:53
schestowitzNever the class issue or libertyDec 31 14:53
oiaohmOur biggest saving grace here is media watch.Dec 31 14:53
schestowitzDemocracy Now addresses the right issuesDec 31 14:53
twitterYes, they do good work.Dec 31 14:54
schestowitzClimateDec 31 14:54
twitterThere are many other good sites.Dec 31 14:54
oiaohmABC the goverment own channel runs a program called media watch that picks up when a channel is straight up lieing and advertises it.Dec 31 14:54
schestowitzHappen vs not happeningDec 31 14:54
schestowitzFake debate tooDec 31 14:54
schestowitzReal one is severe versus moderateDec 31 14:54
schestowitzThat's the debate among real scientistsDec 31 14:54
oiaohmNow what happens here is fun.  Because now the other channels try to do the reverse in ABCDec 31 14:54
twitterThe good thing is that broadcast is more obviously fake now.  People can see it.Dec 31 14:55
oiaohmBasically we have media companies juding each other.Dec 31 14:55
oiaohmIn the public media.Dec 31 14:56
schestowitzAnd then there's the need to expose the media corruption like foxgate which shows that media too is the problemDec 31 14:56
schestowitzoiaohm: and Huff and PuffDec 31 14:56
oiaohmMedia corruption exposes happen here all the time.Dec 31 14:56
twitterCorporate controlled media always has it's fake debates, that's the manufacturing consent model.Dec 31 14:56
schestowitzToby says the role of Huff it to amplify Fox for exampleDec 31 14:56
schestowitzNot address issues but instead play the sportDec 31 14:56
schestowitzTabloidDec 31 14:56
twitterThe web brings real, outside analysis to the table.Dec 31 14:56
oiaohmWe have 4 commerical media companies here all independant.Dec 31 14:56
oiaohmAnd 1 goverment.Dec 31 14:56
schestowitzin the US 9Dec 31 14:56
schestowitzWill be 3 soonDec 31 14:56
oiaohmHow many are truly independant.Dec 31 14:57
schestowitzIf the Australian who thinks lying is journalism gets his way thereDec 31 14:57
schestowitzThe other day I met someone who defended FoxDec 31 14:57
schestowitzI asked ehyDec 31 14:57
twitterWestinghouse, GE, Disney and Microsoft are all nominally independent.Dec 31 14:57
schestowitzAnswer was something along the lines of, "it's good for our side"Dec 31 14:57
schestowitzSo people no longer care about the truthDec 31 14:57
schestowitzThey want what feels goodDec 31 14:57
oiaohmschestowitz: that Australian left Australia because he did not like the Australian media system.Dec 31 14:58
schestowitzThe media gives them flavours for thatDec 31 14:58
*cubezzz plays a Devo recordDec 31 14:58
twitterLet me dig up a good description of "manufacturing consent" Chompsky described the scam very well decades ago.Dec 31 14:58
oiaohmWe have strict control on media ownership.Dec 31 14:58
schestowitzNeither offers truth as that challenges the companies which utilise this mediaDec 31 14:58
schestowitzoiaohm: maybe it was harder to corrupt/manipulateDec 31 14:58
schestowitzHe also wants to get Sky now in the UKDec 31 14:58
schestowitzI like how Sky was blasted by George GallowayDec 31 14:59
oiaohmschestowitz: ruped merdock spent 3 years in jail here.Dec 31 14:59
schestowitzAnd he mentioned Murdoch tooDec 31 14:59
oiaohmFor trying to corrupt media.Dec 31 14:59
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oiaohmGuess why he left.Dec 31 14:59
schestowitzoiaohm: really?Dec 31 14:59
schestowitzoiaohm: got URL?Dec 31 14:59
schestowitzLOLDec 31 14:59
schestowitzWas this the allegation too?Dec 31 14:59
oiaohmHe never got formally charged.Dec 31 15:00
schestowitzBut he was in jailDec 31 15:00
schestowitzSo charged and convicted for somethingDec 31 15:00
oiaohmHe got being kept in jail for being a possible flight risk to avoid charges.Dec 31 15:00
twitterhere you go 31 15:00
schestowitzWell, the US also harbours people who blew planed IIRCDec 31 15:00
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schestowitzLike that guy from CubaDec 31 15:00
oiaohmYep as soon as they let him out he was gone.Dec 31 15:00
schestowitzoiaohm: it's OK for the US to have RupeDec 31 15:00
schestowitz"It's not a crime if it's handy to us"Dec 31 15:01
schestowitzThey groomed many former Nazis tooDec 31 15:01
twitterFake debates and their goals are well described by Chompsky.Dec 31 15:01
schestowitzPeople like Von BraunDec 31 15:01
oiaohmProblem is the USA did not get packer as well.Dec 31 15:01
schestowitztwitter: why do you say it like A Roy does?Dec 31 15:01
oiaohmPacker and Murdock use to offset each other schestowitzDec 31 15:01
cubezzzoh that reminds me...Dec 31 15:01
schestowitzChompskyDec 31 15:01
cubezzzI saw chomsky on broadcast tv a while backDec 31 15:02
cubezzzon TVODec 31 15:02
oiaohmAnd most of the USA people were too money gready to workout out what Murdock was upto.Dec 31 15:02
oiaohmPacker and Murdock had bought up in a buying war here as much media as they were legally allowed.Dec 31 15:02
schestowitztwitter: you wanna watch this video 31 15:03
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oiaohmSaving grace for australia Murdock left and Packers son is a idiot.  schestowitzDec 31 15:03
cubezzzso are things improving or getting worse?Dec 31 15:03
schestowitzoiaohm: it's not just an Australian problemDec 31 15:03
oiaohmOr media is working fine.Dec 31 15:03
schestowitzI just switch off the radio when I wake up if they start talkingDec 31 15:03
schestowitzUsually it's classical musicDec 31 15:04
twitterhmmm, that wikipedia article is not so good.  better to get Chompsky from Chompsky.Dec 31 15:04
oiaohmradio here is far more open.Dec 31 15:04
schestowitzIt's when they start talking that I get off bed to switch the propaganda offDec 31 15:04
oiaohmThinking it costs bugger all to setup a local radio station.Dec 31 15:04
schestowitzThere's nothing more compelling to make one get up earlyDec 31 15:04
oiaohmYes I mean bugger all.Dec 31 15:04
oiaohmNo licence fees for under a particular range.Dec 31 15:04
schestowitztwitter: chomsky.infoDec 31 15:05
oiaohmAnd the particular range is 100 kmsDec 31 15:05
schestowitzHe used to worry about Stalin worship in the 50s... I sometimes see it 50 years later, as wellDec 31 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @lxoliva: Happy #GNU Year, everyone!Dec 31 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AG Dominic Grieve - "concern over arrest media coverage" where's the same concern for #Assange? #hypocriteDec 31 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My Public Enemy discography (17 Albums) is going to take 15 hours to Scrobble to !lastfm 0.oDec 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: It is quite saddening to see how corporations that exploit GNU have groomed Linux instead, leaving Stallman in the darkDec 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @WhosLobbying ACOBA has banned Peter Mandelson from lobbying ministers & civil servants for two years: #lobbying >>fabDec 31 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody if only he didn't have private emails, phone numbers etcDec 31 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mvalente I'll be the killjoy and come out and say it: 2011 wont be a happy new year. Stop deluding yourselves.Dec 31 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb @glynmoody he monetises his "connections" now, just like TonyDec 31 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @CopyrightLaw: “Piracy Isn't The Problem, A Bad Business Model Is The Problem” 31 15:27
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twitterhmmm, that "merry Christmas" video was sad.  It's good to see disappointment over loss of rights but fighting the problems in a productive way should make people happy.Dec 31 15:28
twitterI'd be depressed like that if I watched TV too.Dec 31 15:28
twitterThat's why I don't waste much time watching TV or reading "mainstream" news.Dec 31 15:29
twitterOutside of broadcast, there's a lot of good opinion and change going on.Dec 31 15:29
abeNd-orgheh, who has the time? :PDec 31 15:30
twitterbroadcast wastes more than the time it takes to watch it, it wastes cognitive dissidence time.Dec 31 15:30
twitterthe message is so nonsensical that it makes people deeply unhappyDec 31 15:31
twitterevery lie takes lots of time to unwind but the task is impossible given corporate sourcesDec 31 15:32
abeNd-orgwhich is why many people give up on it & just concentrate on their own lives, not that they could make a change to the world anywaysDec 31 15:33
twittercorporate media would love for everyone to give up and take what they dish out, but that's not the answer.Dec 31 15:35
twitterpeople can make changes in their local community and spread their ideas globallyDec 31 15:35
abeNd-orgmeh, ive tried to help out my local community, they didnt want the helpDec 31 15:36
abeNd-org"f'em"Dec 31 15:36
twitterfighting for change can be frustrating but it is always better than doing nothingDec 31 15:36
abeNd-orgor they see you are willing to try, so they just dump everything on you until you burnout & quitDec 31 15:37
twittergroups can be organized and you can donate your specialty to groups that already existDec 31 15:37
abeNd-orgim broke, i donate timeDec 31 15:37
twitterThe more people that work for change, the easier it gets.Dec 31 15:37
twitterIt helps to live in a community that already has a lot going on.Dec 31 15:38
twitterI now live in a place that has so many problems that any change will be difficult.Dec 31 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Sorry, all saints sound alike to me so I didn't get it... Now point out it's an @rms laugh... Saint i-GNU-cius ... i do.Dec 31 15:39
twitterBut that just means that changes are more desperately needed and small progress will be a significant change.Dec 31 15:39
twitterI hope to leverage the good examples I've seen and gain cooperation from the people doing the good work.Dec 31 15:40
twitterFor instance, Tacoma has a great public utility that owns a municipal network.  I'd like to inform local government about that success story and see if I can't get local universities to make a co-op program for students.Dec 31 15:43
twitterThere are a lot of road blocks but those go away in view of a good working example.Dec 31 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I was referring that IT has become a den of thieves and swindlers, without religious connotations.Dec 31 15:45
abeNd-orgperhaps i am bitter, but no one wants to donate time, & all the organizations expect you to work crazy hours for freeDec 31 15:46
twitterchange takes time, you have to accomplish what you can with what you have.Dec 31 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But, it's something alike Jesus said about Jerusalem's temple, in his times.Dec 31 15:47
twitterthe idea is to not give up, to make the contacts you need and to keep workingDec 31 15:47
twitterget together with your neighbors wherever they meet and see what they need help with and what's worth your time.Dec 31 15:49
twitterthere's always something going onDec 31 15:49
twitterand you should establish and promote a local mail list for free software usersDec 31 15:49
schestowitz[15:30] <twitter> broadcast wastes more than the time it takes to watch it, it wastes cognitive dissidence time.Dec 31 15:56
schestowitzSince the emergence of PR for consumerism in particularDec 31 15:57
schestowitzCreating irrational wants and needs using means of jealousy, sex, fears, etc.Dec 31 15:57
schestowitzFox uses it for political manipulation for exampleDec 31 15:58
schestowitzSome use it to drive sales by promising people a feeling of adequacyDec 31 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh "The hair is all wrong", Talk about an understatement lol! :DDec 31 15:59
schestowitzI have not really watched a full-length TV show _on TV_ probably for half a year nowDec 31 15:59
schestowitzWhen I see a TV on I often just switch that off, they rarely have something of value onDec 31 16:00
schestowitzI can see why checking the weather might be of immediate use for like 5 secondsDec 31 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @eightyeight why you shouldn't be using a task killer with android 31 16:00
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schestowitzNobody tries to sell something with weather (unlike climate claims), so there's signal there, no umbrella companiesDec 31 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: Open*Life 2010 best images | #privacy #crowdsource #iphone #openvideo #grammy #cookingDec 31 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Happy New Year from !Beijing, !China (GMT+8)Dec 31 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith other people wrote that from memory well after his time (if he existed), so authenticity is doubted, tooDec 31 16:05
schestowitztwitter: have you,watched that YouTube rant I recommended?Dec 31 16:07
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TechrightsBot-tr@zeusoftweb: @schestowitz Happy New Year to you and Techrights :)Dec 31 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh A bit yeah.... Unfortunately there hasn't been a Bond villian with dreadlocks.... yet. Maybe I should call MGM. ;)Dec 31 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Happy Last Day of 2010! Mimi and Eunice: The Last Panel 31 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yes, but the meaning here is what I'm noting, it has nothing to do with the subject "Jesus", the myth or the true one.Dec 31 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But the sad state IT is plunged into.Dec 31 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith cartelDec 31 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the James Bond party. 31 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Freshwater wildlife thrives in cleanest rivers since Industrial Revolution - environmental protection *works*Dec 31 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Or a Mafia(mobsters) family...Dec 31 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] I'm not where I want to be, and there's nothing I can do about it. This sucks :/Dec 31 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @ninapaley: Happy Last Day of 2010! Mimi and Eunice: The Last Panel 31 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley Manning/Wikileaks Timeline - v useful (via @evgenymorozov) #manning #wikileaksDec 31 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @leaklinks #Bradley #Manning #Wikileaks Timeline @Firedoglake @savebradley #savemanningDec 31 16:40
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twitterYes, Roy, I watched the rant.  This is why I was talking about positive change.  The ranter was angry because he was discouraged and that is sad.Dec 31 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] It's confirmed: next year will be 2011 (previous year +1), the algorithm seems pretty solid so far. And patent unencumbered AFAICTDec 31 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Don't let it make you miserable. Enjoy what's good and work on changing what you can.Dec 31 16:44
twitterThe ranter did not mention the terrible things that the US is doing to people abroad.Dec 31 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @carlopiana confirmed: next year will be 2011 (previous year +1), the algorithm seems pretty solid so far. & patent unencumbered AFAICTDec 31 16:47
twitterYou can see how people tormented him for what he did say.  The comments are filled with idiotic bile.Dec 31 16:47
twitterHis state of mind is what the rich and powerful want to inflict on anyone who questions them.Dec 31 16:48
twitterHis voiced complaint is that people in the US are cowards and their fear has been used to strip them of rights.  He's also angry at US propaganda that was driven into him through schools.  His particular indoctrination sounds worse than most.Dec 31 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Tekk's law of identica: if its redented once it will be redented 3 times(redent once please, I love irony =P)Dec 31 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just over 6 hours to go until 2011 !! (GMT+1) How time flies!Dec 31 16:52
twitterToday, I'm moving to a new laptop.  It's just like my last one but four times as fast.Dec 31 16:53
twitterfrom X30 to X60Dec 31 16:53
twitterthe downside is ACPI and non free firmware for the wireless.Dec 31 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tekk Tekk's law of identica: if its redented once it will be redented 3 times(redent once please, I love irony =P)Dec 31 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :DDec 31 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << i don't *always* do what I'm told... in fact... hmmm. Better get some coffee :\Dec 31 16:54
twitterI will replace the wireless.Dec 31 16:54
twitterand I'll see if I can live with ACPI.Dec 31 16:54
twitterI'm also moving to Debian testing.Dec 31 16:54
twitterThis will be quite a leap.Dec 31 16:55
twitterThere are several challenges with testing.  UID for devices are a real pain, for example.Dec 31 16:56
twitterI like LVM and the way encryption works but it is complicated.Dec 31 16:56
twittera move away from Unix simplicity.Dec 31 16:56
twitterperhaps I'll figure it out and like it.Dec 31 16:57
twitterNetwork Manager is another trouble spot of complexity.Dec 31 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] kortaste svaret på din fråga: jag blev kärDec 31 16:57
twittermore to learnDec 31 16:57
twitterMicrosoft has succeeded in pushing WEP and WAP complexity onto networks and Network Manager is an answer.Dec 31 16:58
twitteranother answer is to stick to simple dhcp or even .... manual configuration of /etc/network/interfacesDec 31 16:58
twitterfinally, the "configurationless" xorg is troublesome.  when it works, it's great.  When it does not, it's very hard to fix..Dec 31 16:59
twitterugh itsDec 31 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 2008: U.S. Army Counterintelligence designates !WikiLeaks an “enemy"⇒ways to destroy WL reputation & efficacy !cablegateDec 31 17:00
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twitterThe X30 had rock solid APM instead of ACPI and other cool stuff.Dec 31 17:01
twitterno Windows key.  I'm going to hate trying to hit the alt and ctrl key now that they are even smaller than ordinary keys because Microsoft spammed IBM into it.  An IBM rep told me there was a big email campaign that ended right after IBM announced they would have a Windows key but before the new laptops shipped.Dec 31 17:03
twitterLenovo has not undone the mistakeDec 31 17:03
MinceRi find an extra modifier key to be usefulDec 31 17:04
MinceRespecially since i can expect applications to not need it for their shortcutsDec 31 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good ideas for a few easy weekend (like now) projects - #fbDec 31 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 1 - Five open source alternatives to the iPad | 31 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality Going to leave Mint running on this computer to troll family. I wonder if they would even notice the difference.Dec 31 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 1 - Five open source alternatives to the iPad | 31 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Evil @opensourcegeek. 31 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Someone in Ghent for New Year's eve?Dec 31 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan Federated Social Web: Top 10 of 2010 #fsw #2010 #top10Dec 31 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @evan Federated Social Web: Top 10 of 2010 #fsw #2010 #top10Dec 31 17:24
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TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz @thistleweb sadly that's what ex-politicians do...Dec 31 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody to evade the lobbying ban,Mandy could 'pull a Murdoch'(who spent 3 years in jail)&move 2 a country where his power is unmonitoredDec 31 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Junk food now even more dangerous: 31 17:29
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twitterThe problem is not having the extra key, the problem is that they keys being unusably small when too many are added.Dec 31 17:36
twitterYour chances of touch typing the right key are vanishingly small as they keys are.Dec 31 17:37
twitterI don't need or want the Windows keys.Dec 31 17:37
twitterIf my laptop was larger, I might find a use for it.Dec 31 17:38
twitterAs things are, I'd rather they keys do nothing than have that something do things when I'm looking for alt or ctrlDec 31 17:39
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schestowitz[16:46] <twitter> The ranter did not mention the terrible things that the US is doing to people abroad.Dec 31 17:40
schestowitzYes, I noticedDec 31 17:40
schestowitzNothing about the content of foreign policy leaks for exampleDec 31 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm I'm trying, but right now I am not finding much of anything being good enough to actually enjoyDec 31 17:40
schestowitzBut that's part of the indoctrination he did not refer to, not properly at leastDec 31 17:40
schestowitzToday's experiments done too... 31 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here’s to a Freer 2011 also an explanation regarding my de-emphasis on !techrights as of late. !tbDec 31 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard try basics: do you have chocolate? (good esp. dark chocolate... good FOR you, tastes good... endorphins) or other favorite foodDec 31 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Or what about weather? If you've got snow, look up and admire it sparkling on the rooftops? Wildlife can be very diverting.Dec 31 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Or funny books/movies ..."Chicken Run" *always* makes me smile or "Mickey Blue Eyes" ... Carl Hiaasen's black comedy novels r goodDec 31 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard But my secret weapon against melancholia is music... you can get some great music on ... i'd recommend my 2 "finds"Dec 31 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard ...Aló Django's amazing ( ) and you can't go wrong with @Allison_Crowe ⇒allisoncrowe.comDec 31 18:02
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twitterwow, it's nice to see the Hufington Post catch on to endocrine disruptors and warn people away from fast food wrappers and non stick cookingDec 31 18:06
twittershame they used Bong to find his articles.Dec 31 18:06
twitterthe script barfed even netsurfDec 31 18:07
twitterHe comes close by mentioning that the truth is easy to find => schestowitz: Nothing about the content of foreign policy leaks for exampleDec 31 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm Django is one of my favorites, Franco Nero was gr8 on it.Dec 31 18:09
twitterif only it were so easyDec 31 18:09
schestowitzNothing is nice about the Huff and PuffDec 31 18:09
schestowitzBut it's a platformDec 31 18:09
schestowitzThey import some stuff that's of use *sometimes*Dec 31 18:10
twitterthe author was a physician, that's nice.Dec 31 18:10
schestowitzPeople then attribute it to the lady who married oilDec 31 18:10
twitterHuff and Puff has a grip on people's minds.  Like all big publishers, they are losing that grip, but the grip is still there because most people have not discovered news readers and expert bloggers as a more trustworthy and verifiable news source.Dec 31 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hey, !elmdentica users... I'm changing it to use Azy, an EFL jsonrpc library and that makes web calls asynchronous!Dec 31 18:12
twitterThe old truism was that the average American spent 15 minutes on news per day.  The internet has increased that by offering a source of news worth reading.Dec 31 18:12
twitterlinks to actual publications by government and science are like magicDec 31 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - Why Open Source and Open Standards are Essential to Combat Global Climate Change | 31 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm thanks :) I actually think your very efforts are cheering me up ^^ what I probably need the most is rest, but will try musicDec 31 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JulieeJohnsonn: RT @bartbonte: 2011 is Loading ██████████████████ 99 %Dec 31 18:22
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schestowitzPRDec 31 18:22
schestowitzThey employed the same speech writer as ClintonsDec 31 18:22
schestowitzEverything for PRDec 31 18:23
schestowitz[18:13] <twitter> links to actual publications by government and science are like magicDec 31 18:23
schestowitztwitter: Assange calls it "Scientific journalism"Dec 31 18:23
schestowitzWhere sources of claims are actually traceable or linkedDec 31 18:24
schestowitzNo basic truisms with assumptions unquestionsDec 31 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 SF Snob? Why? I read damned near everything, including things that freak people out like 'Evolution vs Creationism'Dec 31 18:24
schestowitzE.e. "blah blah... because Linux is hard to use... blah blah.... Bill Gates is donating so much money to good causes"Dec 31 18:24
schestowitz"Because Iraq possesses weapons of mass destructions... blah blah..... we are the land of the free and home of the brave"Dec 31 18:25
schestowitz*ctionDec 31 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @LadyRockLaura: I haven't had this giddy feeling in over 3 years! question: how on earth did people flirt before texting came along? ;)Dec 31 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @JulieeJohnsonn: RT @bartbonte: 2011 is Loading ██████████████████ 99 %Dec 31 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Mimi_Ignatieff: Happy New Year, Daddy!! Get ready for a spring election, bitches!! #iambreakinginyournewofficeuntilyougetbackDec 31 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Yes, rest is REALLY good. Everything can seem much worse when our personal resources are stretched by exhaustion.Dec 31 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm To understand what the 'Industry' is trying to do by calling copying 'Piracy" you need to read Griftopia -Dec 31 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The new year's almost here. Did you use #CC in 2010? Give back - donate now & ensure a bright 2011 for @creativecommons 31 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm To understand what the 'Industry' is trying to do by calling copying Piracy you need to read Griftopia: 31 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @susiemccray ♺ @SexCigarsBooze Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. << so true! :DDec 31 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!Dec 31 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith Aló Django makes me smile... great music, but i especially love they use the dancing feet as a musical instrumentDec 31 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I have a pretty good idea unfortunately.Dec 31 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter It's taken me half a year to NOT be finished Cryptonomicon ... I haven't even cracked the new Michael Gruber not looked for...Dec 31 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @heeed Ha, GSM busted wide open by using 4 cheap mobiles and sine open source software: !loDec 31 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ... the new Carl Hiaasen ... so reading Griftopia will have to wait until after >my< novel is done. *sigh* <not enough time>Dec 31 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] It is a new year here in India. Happy new year everyone~Dec 31 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith World War !Wikileaks !cablegate #freebradley #freebyron #freeEfrenDec 31 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmmm Sabayon page at Distrowatch not availableDec 31 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Its funny to see Tux being used in so many of those "Funny pictures" !linuxDec 31 19:05
twitterHappy New Year, everyone in India.Dec 31 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Contribution #Etiquette - important point from someone who knows what he's talking about #opensourceDec 31 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hey guess what, its 1/1/11 :)Dec 31 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Off out now, so an early Happy New Year! to @support and Groups !identicurse !linux !debian !crunchbang !lastfm Have a gr8 one everybody :DDec 31 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Get ready for HTML5 Graphics: Start the new year learning SVG - Early bird rate expiring soon!! 31 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Interesting mobile calls apparently easily listened in on with cheap phones and FOSS firmwareDec 31 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reasons to be Cheerful - "what makes my neighbour happier without damaging me makes my world a better place." #hnyDec 31 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wow. Busy week, now have three days off.....Dec 31 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 162 dents!Dec 31 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Techeye Bible: Ye book of Revelation of Novell - - missed this when first published.Dec 31 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] This firework will burn as spectacularly as our Constitution did #wtf #douchebag !wlDec 31 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gwibber messages were talking up 587 MB of my 8GB netbook SSDDec 31 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Taking upDec 31 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @gamaral: some say "open source, open minds", I prefer "free tacos, free burritos" its more transcendental ;) #fsf #gnuDec 31 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security update 31 20:22
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twitterit is time for me to try out the new laptop.Dec 31 20:30
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twittertadaDec 31 20:37
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twitterthe switch from kde 3 to kde 4 is going to bug me for a few weeks.Dec 31 20:39
twitterE16 is the same but I've lost klipper and the nice things it ran wellDec 31 20:40
twitterthe new version of knetwork manager does not make an icon on gnome-panelDec 31 20:41
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twitterit runs, but I can't access it and something seems to be in the way of manual iwconfig settingsDec 31 20:42
twitterInetl runs hot.Dec 31 20:42
twitterI thought the X30 was hot.  The X60 has a hotter palm restDec 31 20:43
twitterit is just bearable.Dec 31 20:43
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TechrightsBot-tr@Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 18:10:05 UTC - @schestowitz : Happy New Year to you and thanks for the Kennedy recording :-)Dec 31 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Feliz año nuevo !eolianos e !identica en general :)Dec 31 20:45
schestowitz[20:37] <twitter> tadaDec 31 20:46
schestowitz[20:38] <MinceR> dingDec 31 20:46
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TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz trueDec 31 20:47
schestowitzre "to evade the lobbying ban,Mandy could 'pull a Murdoch'(who spent 3 years in jail)&move 2 a country where his power is unmonitored"Dec 31 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #followfriday #ff @phoronix @creativecommons @eff @agentsmith @satipera @dorainseattle happy new year, signing offDec 31 20:47
schestowitzOK, laters.... next week there will be a ton of posts about Gates FundamentalismDec 31 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2010 Trend Watch Update: Online Video 31 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nobody does it better... :)Dec 31 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! 31 21:04
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twitterI have Windows 3.1 in a dosbox somewhere.  Word Perfect 4.2 and 5.1, wowser!Dec 31 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Statistics of the #openbsc based #gsm network at #27c3 are available at 31 21:09
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twitterI'm actually putting Windows XP in a virtual box today.  It is the first time that I've installed Windows in about eight years.  I have some legacy devices sitting around that my boss wants me to have a fall back device to control.Dec 31 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! 31 21:10
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twitter"Windows XP the most reliable Windows ever."Dec 31 21:11
twitterA few screens back they had a grammar typo about being able to close unstable applications "or lose your work"Dec 31 21:12
twittersomething like, "close unstable applications without having to reboot your computer or lose your work."Dec 31 21:12
twitterOh God, that's ugly.Dec 31 21:13
twitterVirtualBox rocks.  It auto resized that pig.Dec 31 21:14
twitterit is singing to me, cheezy. I preferred the tadaDec 31 21:17
twitterRegistration of this copy is optional.  How refreshing.  I'll have to block network access to it.Dec 31 21:17
twitterYour Name:  Bill GatesDec 31 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! 31 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! 31 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF and Happy new year to all my lovable readers!Dec 31 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @Dan_Jacques @Dona_Abgail @DungaRei @ecowatches @emuparadise @ender2070 @fisl @fmgil @frmdrt @fun140 @funwithlinux @gabeiracombrDec 31 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @games24hinfo @GHANAWEBCAM @glynmoody @homembit @iKaciah @iluvpclinuxos @innRedBlueGreen @jasonbird2 @jgderose @julinho2 @Juninho_KNGDec 31 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @kennytsushima @LeonardNimoy @linuxmintcombr @luciouberdan @maddoghall @MaraStn @MarceloBranco @Margarete3801 @MargaritarosadfDec 31 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @mirgonkayser @mjasay @moneymatter4now @naughtyCherry88 @nihaohello @novacut @oblakeerickson @omgubuntu @opentechgirl @oscentreDec 31 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @ParallelsMac @pliniodearruda @RandomSpotlight @rbanffy @rcweir @Rickfer @rjbgbo @rksharing @rogawa @schestowitz @Sen_CristovamDec 31 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @siduxBrasil @sinaisix @strangemagicbus @thabalwell @TheRealNimoy @Time4Linux @TPO_Hisself @twibbon @twittandokiss @unhosted @uusoksaDec 31 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @vebersol @VirtualTweet @WebUpd8 @william_telles @WilliamShatner @YahooCanadaNewsDec 31 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jmcesteves RT @axelhorns: #EU Commission about to conduct various interesting ICT and/or patent related studies -- ...Dec 31 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn !Canonical hired a !GPL -violator-defending lawyer to draft so-called "community" Harm-ony ©LA. Hope remaining NPO's'll finall ...Dec 31 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! 31 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @xScited_Adrian: "zombie" satellite comes back to life !scienceDec 31 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @haris @mjjzf 2011 year of the !Linux cyborgDec 31 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! 31 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Me and the wife are seeing the new year in with a movie...Lord of the Rings on BluRay....question is - 1,2 or 3...we can't decide.Dec 31 22:20
twitterI like the new Akregator.Dec 31 22:29
twitterVOIP now illegal in China, except through state monopoly provider. 31 22:30
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twitterWatch idiots in the US push for similar, if they understand enough to be dangerous.Dec 31 22:30
twitterUS ISPs typically forbid offering services and claim the ability to kick you off line at any time for any reason.Dec 31 22:31
twitterMany tried to make it difficult to use any but their own mail servers.  That failed, but they did make it impossible for people to run their own.Dec 31 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] mrrr.Dec 31 22:32
twitteriPhone finally rolls out video Skype. 31 22:33
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twitterthat only took a decade.Dec 31 22:33
twitterSlashdot fails to mention Windows as a culprit in the Skype outage.Dec 31 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I should post a photographic year in review, but I'm kinda too lazy. I'll just look through my shots myself, and post some good onesDec 31 22:35
twitterSkype does damage control for Microsoft 31 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] I wonder if I missed a space in my previous dent, or if that was a wrapping hiccup due to not-so-wide terminal windowDec 31 22:45
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twitternew Kmail did not import sending accounts from KDE 3.  it got receiving accounts, my identities and other but lost sending accounts.  Another minor irritant is that it lost the fancy display of people's images.Dec 31 22:50
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twitterremembering that is going to be a pain.Dec 31 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] First dent of 2011, 4th bottle of champagne in 5, life's good. Enjoy! :-)Dec 31 23:09
twitterand forgetfulDec 31 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Thank you for a great 2010 on We've got some great things coming in 2011. Happy New Year!Dec 31 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: #2011? Not from here, baby :) Happy GNU year!Dec 31 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] started my first project on kde's new git infrastructure. very smooth, following instructions from here: 31 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @akari Feliz año nuevo!!!Dec 31 23:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra happy GNU year from old Europe :-)Dec 31 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] Happy GNU Year everyone :)Dec 31 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Happy new year!Dec 31 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Happy New Year! 31 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: Will join your Champagne toast in about forty minutes, for now a good bottle of wine and some vodka after the baby falls asleepDec 31 23:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 How does it do that?Dec 31 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra good. On a better count I've had far more than a bottle. Don't tell the P-lice when I drive home... ;-)Dec 31 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if that can provoke the freetards, use their own logic on them >:)Dec 31 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Wow this Canada-Sweden game has everything --except goaltending! #gocanadagoDec 31 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ah, and i bought stoneage last time i was in .ch, but it's still over there awaiting for me when i move ... also fun, thoughDec 31 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Vancouver Olympic law expires with 2010 | Other Sports | Sports | Toronto Sun 31 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter easy now, more of this Peter Jackson stuff and we'll be having words ;DDec 31 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] / How can anybody be enlightened? Truth is after all so poorly lit. / Listening to Rush - Turn the PageDec 31 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I could really do without this fuckwit portuguese #idols version playing on friend's tv, specially with some idiot butchering a song I like.Dec 31 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @thistleweb Hey, I'm opinionated, loud, brash, noisy, and opinionated. Those are my good points!Dec 31 23:59

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