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qu1j0t3well, in discussing Ars bias we could start with the MS connections among the owners/executivesFeb 20 00:22
qu1j0t3that is factualFeb 20 00:22
qu1j0t3it should lead us to treat it with a critical eyeFeb 20 00:22
oiaohmqu1j0t3: Even so.  Historically some of the best reports have come out of some of the ones with possible bias owners who have distanced themselves.Feb 20 00:24
qu1j0t3yes, that happens.Feb 20 00:25
oiaohmWith well written reporting rules they don't break.Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3we just need to be careful and criticalFeb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3it's not the 7 'good' articles. itFeb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3s the other 3Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3in 10Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3:)Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3HuffPo also publishes some good people.Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3mixed in with some very bad people.Feb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3it's a net badFeb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3and deceptiveFeb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3since they don't declare their agendaFeb 20 00:25
qu1j0t3(nor does wired or ars)Feb 20 00:26
qu1j0t3wired is deeply compromisedFeb 20 00:26
oiaohmars policy of MS people not reporting on Linux stories and Linux people not reporting on MS storiesFeb 20 00:26
oiaohmNot perfect but it far better than like HuffPoFeb 20 00:26
MinceRwired is compromised by whom? m$?Feb 20 00:27
oiaohmMinceR: wired rarely does positive Linux stories.   Most does postive apple stories.Feb 20 00:30
MinceRicFeb 20 00:33
qu1j0t3MinceR: kevin poulsen etcFeb 20 00:33
qu1j0t3i'm talking politically, not techFeb 20 00:33
qu1j0t3poulsen is establishment dupeFeb 20 00:33
qu1j0t3lamo, mitnick buddyFeb 20 00:33
oiaohmInteresting thing is wired does even less postive MS windows stores that postive Linux stories.Feb 20 00:33
oiaohmSo its one of the ones MS has some how failed to buy.Feb 20 00:33
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schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/4px9H/Feb 20 12:26
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schestowitzLOL https://identi.ca/notice/64958418Feb 20 16:33
TechrightsBot-sc@Captain Obvious (captainobvious)'s status on Sunday, 20-Feb-11 16:23:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz As usual, you are wrong.  MonoTouch/MonoDroid are covered by the Novell/Microsoft patent agreement.   Schestowitz.Lies++Feb 20 16:33
schestowitzNot much said about WHAT'S in this deal...Feb 20 16:33
schestowitz"Covered..." like a diaper covers an assFeb 20 16:33
schestowitz*LOL* someone is obsessed! http://identi.ca/schestowitzliesFeb 20 16:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Schestowitz Lies (schestowitzlies) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 19.82 KBFeb 20 16:54
qu1j0t3LOLFeb 20 17:07
qu1j0t3well, it's a hobby...Feb 20 17:07
schestowitzin his basement...Feb 20 17:13
schestowitzA case of reflectionFeb 20 17:14
schestowitzLOL watch the background http://identi.ca/notice/64747452Feb 20 17:14
TechrightsBot-sc@Estornino (estornino)'s status on Thursday, 17-Feb-11 21:39:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @rms bochornosa confusión mental http://ur1.ca/39vv0 e intento de convencer de lo que no se sabe a los demás !freesoftware !fsf !gnu #rmsFeb 20 17:14
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: No se encontró la página « ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer .::. Size~: 40.71 KBFeb 20 17:14
qu1j0t3'Pennsylvania's science and technology standards, which are not enforced, require that students learn to use computers for various tasks, but not that they learn how computers work.Feb 20 18:46
qu1j0t3"It's not only important for a student to learn to write a letter in Microsoft Word," Sudol-DeLyser said, explaining that every student should learn about basic computer security, media production and simple programming, and interested students should be encouraged to study computer science in depth.Feb 20 18:46
qu1j0t3ouch, schestowitz http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_723777.htmlFeb 20 18:46
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Few students make time to study computer science - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review  .::. Size~: 47.57 KBFeb 20 18:46
qu1j0t3'To address what experts say is an impending shortfall, U.S. Rep. Jared Polis, D-Colo., introduced a bill last year that would promote and fund improved computer science education in states. The bill did not become law, but it was backed by technology companies such as Google and Microsoft.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitzDentedFeb 20 18:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wbm/status/39394215955935232Feb 20 18:53
TechrightsBot-sc@wbm: @schestowitz @fcassia if you are referring to Microsoft - http://bit.ly/fbaYUy. Has there been a retraction? #monodroid #monotouchFeb 20 18:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Microsoft won't stop .Net on Android - patents, Oracle-Sun merger, oracle, .net, monotouch, monodroid, mono, Microsoft, legal, Java, Google, Free Software Foundation, C#, Android - ASP & .Net - Development - Techworld .::. Size~: 78.53 KBFeb 20 18:53
schestowitzMono is like ScientologyFeb 20 18:53
schestowitzThey'll smear you and make puppet account of youFeb 20 18:53
schestowitzStalk you, harass you.. if you question monoFeb 20 18:53
schestowitzThey need to see a shrinkFeb 20 18:53
MinceRmaybe they too think that shrinks are evilFeb 20 19:05
schestowitzLOLFeb 20 19:18
schestowitzBut I'd agree with them on thatFeb 20 19:19
schestowitzPseudo-occupationsFeb 20 19:19
MinceRmaybe you too should get audited instead then :>Feb 20 19:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sooopergoof/status/39385568915750913 https://twitter.com/sooopergoof/status/39398483886612481Feb 20 19:20
TechrightsBot-sc@sooopergoof: @schestowitz @jilliancyork UMM privacy experts AND anyone who's heard of #Egypt. wtf. PLS keep posting how to fight it ??!? THXFeb 20 19:20
TechrightsBot-sc@sooopergoof: @schestowitz Voting always good :)  .. also need lots of  publicity and public involvement - petitions protest etc etc?Feb 20 19:20
schestowitzMinceR: I'd need to audit at the bank firstFeb 20 19:20
MinceRclams don't do thatFeb 20 19:20
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU14ciTTfWo&feature=relatedFeb 20 19:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle:      YouTube         - Jerry Seinfeld Gets Angry at Larry King    .::. Size~: 150.21 KBFeb 20 19:20
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/3an8uFeb 20 19:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle:      YouTube         - larry david on religion    .::. Size~: 119.02 KBFeb 20 19:21
schestowitz http://ur1.ca/3ao6uFeb 20 19:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle:      YouTube         - Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 36).    .::. Size~: 136.53 KBFeb 20 19:21
schestowitzis clam a rank in Scientology?Feb 20 19:22
MinceRno, it's a slur meaning "scientologist"Feb 20 19:22
schestowitzohFeb 20 19:23
schestowitzwhat's the short for apple fanboi?Feb 20 19:23
MinceRhttp://xenu.net/cb-faq.html#faq14   http://xenu.net/clam_faq.htmlFeb 20 19:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     Operation Clambake presents: Frequently Asked Questions    .::. Size~: 33.29 KBFeb 20 19:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     Operation Clambake presents: The Clam FAQ    .::. Size~: 14.38 KBFeb 20 19:23
MinceR"fag"? :>Feb 20 19:23
schestowitzna..Feb 20 19:23
schestowitzBTW, is it a false doc showing Jobs as JIV positive?Feb 20 19:24
schestowitz*HIVFeb 20 19:24
MinceRdunnoFeb 20 19:24
MinceRi hope it's trueFeb 20 19:24
MinceRbecause it means his (and crApple's) chances of survival are lowerFeb 20 19:24
schestowitzI hope notFeb 20 19:24
schestowitzIt can spreadFeb 20 19:24
schestowitzre [19:24] <MinceR> i hope it's trueFeb 20 19:24
MinceRit will only spread among those who fuck blowFeb 20 19:24
schestowitzBSD blow?Feb 20 19:25
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/building-systems-secure-from-the-startFeb 20 19:25
schestowitzblowfish..Feb 20 19:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Building Systems Secure From The Start  .::. Size~: 43.67 KBFeb 20 19:25
MinceRsteve "blow" jobsFeb 20 19:26
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11-1.htmlFeb 20 19:28
TechrightsBot-scTitle: New Mono Log Profiler - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 17.45 KBFeb 20 19:28
MinceRtyranniaFeb 20 19:28
schestowitz It started with MonoFeb 20 19:28
schestowitzTransylvaniaFeb 20 19:29
schestowitzMicrosoft vampiresFeb 20 19:29
MinceRwannabe self-appointed dictators of the new world orderFeb 20 19:29
schestowitzMinceR: heh. I'll borrow that for identicaFeb 20 19:29
MinceR:)Feb 20 19:29
schestowitztyrannia.org https://identi.ca/notice/64969205Feb 20 19:33
TechrightsBot-sc@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Feb-11 19:30:37 UTC - Identi.ca: Help! I can't find how to contaminate my system. I went to tyrannia.org, but #Mono is not there. Is Miguel de Icaza's site (tyrannia) down?Feb 20 19:33
MinceR:>Feb 20 19:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/64968728Feb 20 19:34
TechrightsBot-sc@Osama Khalid (osamak)'s status on Sunday, 20-Feb-11 19:21:03 UTC - Identi.ca: A Libyan judge is being interviewed on #Aljazeera Arabic: 1000s were injured in #Libya and more than 100,000 are currently protesting.Feb 20 19:34
schestowitz100000!Feb 20 19:34
MinceRover 9000!Feb 20 19:37
schestowitzvFeb 20 19:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQD74RHBv-kFeb 20 19:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle:      YouTube         - Draw Mo' Day -9000- version (mirror)    .::. Size~: 110.56 KBFeb 20 19:40
MinceRlolFeb 20 19:41
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schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Oct-20-1.htmlFeb 20 19:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Shipping Smiles on the AppStore - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.54 KBFeb 20 19:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/39408981780873216Feb 20 19:45
TechrightsBot-sc@ircolle: @schestowitz In the US, if you're ill and don't have insurance you go to the emergency room and get treated.Feb 20 19:45
schestowitzand later you need to sell the house to pay medical bills ;-) ;-)Feb 20 19:45
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Nov-11.htmlFeb 20 19:46
TechrightsBot-scTitle: F# Goes Open Source - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 18 KBFeb 20 19:46
schestowitzJoys of Microsoft Blog{tm}Feb 20 19:46
schestowitzI wonder who replaced Michael...http://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/11/09/me-is-leaving/Feb 20 19:47
TechrightsBot-scTitle: openSUSE Lizards .::. Size~: 59.05 KBFeb 20 19:47
schestowitzProbably nobodyFeb 20 19:47
schestowitzhttp://suseware.com/blog/2010/11/23/attachmate-says-novell-buyout-would-not-affect-opensuse-project/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SUSEware+%28SUSEware%29Feb 20 19:48
schestowitzOptimists...Feb 20 19:48
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Attachmate says NOVELL buyout would not affect openSUSE Project «  SUSEware .::. Size~: 24.35 KBFeb 20 19:48
schestowitzJust changed my plasma theme to G-RemixFeb 20 19:51
schestowitzWhy? Because I can, unlike MacheadsFeb 20 19:52
MinceR:>Feb 20 19:53
MinceRmy plasma theme is glowglassFeb 20 19:53
schestowitzhttp://hedgehogpainter.livejournal.com/11599.htmlFeb 20 19:55
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YaSTuza Headquarters - I survived FOSDEM 2011 .::. Size~: 33.26 KBFeb 20 19:55
schestowitzMinceR: let me try itFeb 20 19:55
schestowitzI'm downloading two new ones ATMFeb 20 19:55
schestowitzVery slowFeb 20 19:56
schestowitzI wish the window decorations were worth something other than the default oneFeb 20 19:56
MinceRmy window decorations are QtCurveFeb 20 19:56
MinceRtransparentFeb 20 19:56
MinceRset up so that a transparent, menuless terminal has almost no distinction between the terminal background and the title bar backgroundFeb 20 19:57
schestowitzAndrobit is awesome.. and newFeb 20 19:58
MinceRcheckingFeb 20 20:00
schestowitz"Volatile" is also a nice plasma themeFeb 20 20:00
schestowitzLighterFeb 20 20:00
schestowitzhttp://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-most-beautiful-plasma-themes-for-kde.htmlFeb 20 20:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: 10 Most Beautiful Plasma Themes for KDE 4 Desktop | TechSource .::. Size~: 98.94 KBFeb 20 20:04
schestowitzhttp://kde-look.org/Feb 20 20:07
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Eyecandy for your KDE-Desktop -  KDE-Look.org .::. Size~: 132.18 KBFeb 20 20:07
MinceRi know kde-look :>Feb 20 20:07
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schestowitzI didn't realise I could change window translucency foe menus in this KDE versionFeb 20 20:16
schestowitzI've just tinkered with loads of effect optionsFeb 20 20:16
schestowitzhttp://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2011/02/nokia-does-right-thing.htmlFeb 20 20:17
TechrightsBot-scTitle: nowwhatthe: Nokia does the right thing! .::. Size~: 36.7 KBFeb 20 20:17
MinceRah, a m$ slave wanking about his overlord succeedingFeb 20 20:20
schestowitzhe's a kde marketing guyFeb 20 20:22
schestowitzan optimist nonethelessFeb 20 20:22
MinceR"nokia does the right thing" is not optimismFeb 20 20:24
MinceRit's m$ worshipFeb 20 20:25
qu1j0t3it's using a conclusion as a premise too ?Feb 20 20:29
MinceRmaybe it's sarcasm, i can't tellFeb 20 20:32
gnufreexThis guy is complete idiot. Feb 20 20:32
MinceRthere's little substanceFeb 20 20:32
gnufreexI stoped reading at "how about us?"Feb 20 20:33
MinceRand there's little talk of nokia at all, half of the article is an advertisement for m$ linux, suse editionFeb 20 20:33
gnufreexI will try again nowFeb 20 20:33
gnufreex"Within 2-3 years Stephan will leave a company which is "going great" (short-term financially speaking) and receive a big bonus. Usual business of the type which brought us the credit crisis."Feb 20 20:33
gnufreexIt might be sarcasmFeb 20 20:34
gnufreex"Instead it can focus on becoming a phone hardware manufacturer, a strategy which will ensure high margins!"Feb 20 20:34
gnufreexDefinetely sarcasmFeb 20 20:34
schestowitz[20:32] <gnufreex> This guy is complete idiot. Feb 20 20:35
schestowitzhE's the new opensuse community managerFeb 20 20:35
gnufreexOh...Feb 20 20:35
gnufreexThat explains it.Feb 20 20:35
schestowitzand very pro-KDEFeb 20 20:35
schestowitzI like him, we were cordial before he joined NovellFeb 20 20:36
MinceRhe just boarded a sinking ship? :>Feb 20 20:36
gnufreexHe has expirience in sinking shipsFeb 20 20:37
gnufreexI knowFeb 20 20:38
gnufreexThere are bunch of Microsoft boosers in SuSE communityFeb 20 20:38
gnufreexHe is making fun of themFeb 20 20:38
gnufreexBy sounding exactly like themFeb 20 20:38
gnufreexAnyone who sounds other way will be attacked anywaysFeb 20 20:39
gnufreexSo OpenSUSE community has to look like a parody all the timeFeb 20 20:39
schestowitzhttp://abock.org/2011/02/02/going-to-fosdem lulzFeb 20 20:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Going to FOSDEM « Aaron Bockover .::. Size~: 24.31 KBFeb 20 20:39
gnufreexlolFeb 20 20:39
schestowitzwelcome to novellFeb 20 20:40
schestowitzso screwed it's funnFeb 20 20:40
schestowitzI have 5 posts about Novell tomorrow...Feb 20 20:40
gnufreexComment says : "Porting Qt to WP7 would be stupid, as it would cause serious fragmentation that is hounding Android. WP7 doesn't need to entirely different development platforms, especially an open source one."Feb 20 20:42
gnufreexHahaFeb 20 20:42
gnufreexWp7 boosters Feb 20 20:42
schestowitzhttp://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2011/02/is-nokia-committing-harakiri-by.htmlFeb 20 20:45
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Is Nokia Committing Harakiri By Aligning With Microsoft ? | All about Linux .::. Size~: 42.86 KBFeb 20 20:45
schestowitzNotice how Elop got away with itFeb 20 20:45
schestowitz1 week later people just let it beFeb 20 20:45
schestowitzAnd another company just died silentlyFeb 20 20:45
gnufreexYeah.Feb 20 20:45
gnufreexAnd Microsoft pushers are now praising the dealFeb 20 20:46
gnufreexIe, EL REG made artice "5 reasons to be happy"Feb 20 20:46
schestowitzone week: the shelf life of corporate terrorismFeb 20 20:46
schestowitzLike whenever Western nations commit acts of terrorism against some small nation, or a coupFeb 20 20:46
gnufreexHe sold shares so he is goldenFeb 20 20:46
schestowitzA year or so later it's forgiven, even though the tyranny, deaths, and suffering stayFeb 20 20:46
schestowitzBlair says, forget about Iraq lies, it's historyFeb 20 20:47
schestowitz[20:46] <gnufreex> He sold shares so he is goldenFeb 20 20:47
schestowitzand richer/ Bling bling. Ka-chingFeb 20 20:47
schestowitzJackpot-killing/hijacking employer's rival and also getting richerFeb 20 20:48
gnufreexHe bought nokia shares at basement priceFeb 20 20:48
schestowitzThey planned a coup and succeededFeb 20 20:48
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/02/17/obama.san.francisco.mashable/index.html?eref=rss_tech&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_tech+%28RSS%3A+Technology%29Feb 20 20:49
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Obama to meet with Zuckerberg, tech execs during San Francisco trip - CNN.com .::. Size~: 36.89 KBFeb 20 20:49
schestowitzwar roomFeb 20 20:49
gnufreexNotice MS evangelism on Nokia forums http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?219199-Nokia-MicrosoftFeb 20 20:51
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Nokia + Microsoft .::. Size~: 121.72 KBFeb 20 20:51
gnufreexSomebody posted in comment on Qt blog that Qt is not doing anything on desktop anymore, just mobileFeb 20 20:53
gnufreexcited Git commitsFeb 20 20:53
schestowitzyeahFeb 20 21:02
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qu1j0t3hiFeb 20 21:43
schestowitzSigh: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12489632Feb 20 21:45
TechrightsBot-scTitle: BBC News - Reputation is all: Could the internet kill your company? .::. Size~: 72.74 KBFeb 20 21:45
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