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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/65501699 https://identi.ca/notice/65500961 | Feb 27 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 27-Feb-11 00:21:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @ender2070 For you - RT @schestowitz: What the Ice Cores Tell Us, and How Deniers Distort it http://ur1.ca/3cgo6 #koch #teaparty #fox | Feb 27 04:38 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 27-Feb-11 00:08:38 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @ender2070: @schestowitz It's an elite boys club then and they will back each other up #climatechange | Feb 27 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Idiotic stalkers are at it again. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/e0ba21ff745d8a92# I have two jobs, not one. One is academic. | Feb 27 04:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/02/little-mommy-is-a-terrifying-vision-of-android-baby-dystopia/ | Feb 27 05:08 |
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| schestowitz | Little Mommy Is A Terrifying Vision Of Android Baby Dystopia | Feb 27 05:08 |
| schestowitz | "One weird thing about Toy Fair is all of the stringent gender norms that are pushed in marketing-speak. Trucks are for boys. Transformers are for boys. Nerf is for boys. So what do girls get? This exceedingly creepy robo-baby, designed to train them to be mothers. Seriously." | Feb 27 05:08 |
| schestowitz | That's exactly how Hollywood too is trying to share women | Feb 27 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Beauty and the Beast: forgiving women | Feb 27 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Snow white: doing the dishes for all the lads... | Feb 27 05:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hollywood is entirely unenlightened re: women; see my tweet today... | Feb 27 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Also racist | Feb 27 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Many examples | Feb 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube racism disney | Feb 27 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - YouTube - Racism in Disney | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DLibK0SCpIkk | Feb 27 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - Racist Disney Compilation! | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmOqnJ9I3vTE | Feb 27 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - YouTube - Disney and how they portray racism through sound | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dgg2T_t2UtlU | Feb 27 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - YouTube - racism in disney.m4v | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dw8qB5yZBDQ0 | Feb 27 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Feb 27 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | and more | Feb 27 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | not just racist | Feb 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | I know | Feb 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | But I said "For example" | Feb 27 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah | Feb 27 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | it just goes on and on | Feb 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/305/8/808.abstract | Feb 27 05:16 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what else? | Feb 27 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Chauvinism for sure... | Feb 27 05:16 |
| schestowitz | National agenda (not race) | Feb 27 05:17 |
| schestowitz | Americanism or militarism of sorts | Feb 27 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. militarism ... | Feb 27 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | indoctrinatioon | Feb 27 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | normalisation of X | Feb 27 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | instilling fear of your neighbour | Feb 27 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | normalisation of violence (particularly against women) | Feb 27 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | demonisation of the other (a big contributor to american xenophobia) | Feb 27 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | historical revisionism | Feb 27 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | historical fabrication, romanticisation (replacement of 'history' with fiction, like corporates replace 'journalism' with fiction) | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | [05:17] <qu1j0t3> instilling fear of your neighbour | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | That's an important one | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Kids not encouraged to speak to strangers, either | Feb 27 05:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's damaged their society beyond measure | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | As though every second man is a pedohile | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | *phile | Feb 27 05:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: 'not encouraged' doesn't go far enough. | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | [05:18] <qu1j0t3> demonisation of the other (a big contributor to american xenophobia) | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | That's related to the racism I mentioned | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the americans i speak to are basically prisoners in their homes or automobiles. | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they don't interact with strangers | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: if they do, they're mortally afraid | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | I know | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | But... | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: need to be armed | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | It's worse in the UK | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | Notoriously so | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'm surprised | Feb 27 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: here it's not that bad yet | Feb 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | You cannot speak to people on the bus for example, to use an example I heard of from a friend who was approached by a stranger in a Chicago airport | Feb 27 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: culturally Canada has resisted this craziness, but since we import american film and tv, it's only a matter of time, and a manipulative government gdoesn't help. | Feb 27 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's right. | Feb 27 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: or in any public place. | Feb 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz | Canada used to be more French/British/Dutch, eh? | Feb 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz | Like Australia | Feb 27 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they're a constant state of terror | Feb 27 05:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes. and French canada is even more culturally immune to that nonsense. | Feb 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz | They too got their new infulence not from the British masters but the Murdochs and Gateses.... | Feb 27 05:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Quebecers are still latins, habitually interactive and warm. | Feb 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz | Not the reputation the French have here.. | Feb 27 05:22 |
| schestowitz | I was in Montreal some years ago to meet the g/f and people were not exceptionally friendly | Feb 27 05:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they're not as aloof as some parisians reputedly are | Feb 27 05:23 |
| schestowitz | They could barely spewak English some of them... | Feb 27 05:23 |
| oiaohm | We exported Murdoch | Feb 27 05:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they get annoyed with anglophones occasionally. | Feb 27 05:23 |
| schestowitz | I know :-) | Feb 27 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Got rid of our problem. | Feb 27 05:23 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: he feels more at home now, with Koch whom he is boosting | Feb 27 05:23 |
| schestowitz | The billionaires alliance... "we al defend one another" | Feb 27 05:24 |
| oiaohm | And the packers his son was a idiot so that has imploded. | Feb 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: not really | Feb 27 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Really yes we did. | Feb 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | He still owns loads of the Australian press | Feb 27 05:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yeah but Murdoch's a dirty tradesman compared to his clients. | Feb 27 05:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he does the 'wet work' for the untouchables | Feb 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | wet work LOL | Feb 27 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Since he is not australian is has a cap on how much of a press he can own. schestowitz | Feb 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | I'd just reach that as what it is.. | Feb 27 05:25 |
| oiaohm | Ie We really did export Murdoch | Feb 27 05:25 |
| oiaohm | He is not an australian cit any more. | Feb 27 05:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: those laws are weak .. they have been flouted by Murdoch in the USA and UK, and I believe he has weakened ownership regs in australia too | Feb 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: was he in jail? | Feb 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I spent a long time googling | Feb 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | To verify your claim that he was jailed | Feb 27 05:25 |
| schestowitz | I couldn't find a thing | Feb 27 05:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | big mistake letting him out | Feb 27 05:26 |
| schestowitz | He reproduced | Feb 27 05:26 |
| schestowitz | Now his son/s give his power a shot in the arm | Feb 27 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Packer went to jail. | Feb 27 05:26 |
| schestowitz | Family values=keep people too stupid to make progress | Feb 27 05:26 |
| schestowitz | Daily Fail=talk about b00bs and terror | Feb 27 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Murdoch run and lost cit. | Feb 27 05:26 |
| schestowitz | WSJ=the world revolves around stocks | Feb 27 05:27 |
| schestowitz | "So defend the rich bankers... they hold the nation" | Feb 27 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Beaching ownership regs here is a major headache. qu1j0t3 | Feb 27 05:27 |
| schestowitz | Fox=being xenophobic is SO.... ""in" | Feb 27 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Since it does start a min at 5 years in jail. | Feb 27 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Even paying the fines. | Feb 27 05:27 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: when was he in jail? | Feb 27 05:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe ages ago | Feb 27 05:28 |
| schestowitz | The Internet brings up nothing of that sort | Feb 27 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Murdoch did not go to jail | Feb 27 05:28 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Feb 27 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Murdoch went to the USA and got USA CIT | Feb 27 05:28 |
| oiaohm | So was a USA CIt before court case in Australian could go threw. | Feb 27 05:28 |
| schestowitz | Aha | Feb 27 05:28 |
| oiaohm | And has to sell down to the overseas ownership percentage. | Feb 27 05:28 |
| schestowitz | Well, the US welcomes some questionable people as long as they make money and defend the rich | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | See that Orlando guy who bombed an airport in Cuba... | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | Lives very well in Florian | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | Unlike Assange | Feb 27 05:29 |
| oiaohm | If Murdoch had stayed here jail time was coming. | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | Assange made the mistake of going after rich capitalists | Feb 27 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Due to breaching cross media ownership rules. | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | And not poor "communists" | Feb 27 05:29 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: interesting, didn't know how he was haunted in Australia | Feb 27 05:30 |
| schestowitz | In the US he's a hero... | Feb 27 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Feb 27 05:30 |
| schestowitz | Well, so is Icahn... Myhrvold... | Feb 27 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: only among the congenital cretins and under-educated | Feb 27 05:30 |
| schestowitz | GATES LOL | Feb 27 05:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | ditto | Feb 27 05:30 |
| schestowitz | The more they steal, the more heroic they become... in the land of PR | Feb 27 05:30 |
| oiaohm | Notice that Murdoch has not set foot in Australia since he left. schestowitz | Feb 27 05:31 |
| oiaohm | If he does set foot there are other charges waiting. | Feb 27 05:31 |
| schestowitz | He still controls some press ther | Feb 27 05:31 |
| schestowitz | They can't freeze such assets | Feb 27 05:31 |
| schestowitz | ? | Feb 27 05:31 |
| oiaohm | Not for these charges. | Feb 27 05:31 |
| schestowitz | well, I bet he now knows people "in high places" in .au | Feb 27 05:31 |
| oiaohm | Really no. | Feb 27 05:31 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people in high places hate him. Particularly Unions. | Feb 27 05:32 |
| schestowitz | Unions are not high places | Feb 27 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Here they are. | Feb 27 05:32 |
| schestowitz | Unions often gather power to target individuals in high places | Feb 27 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Labour goverment seats are most picked by unions. | Feb 27 05:33 |
| oiaohm | Here. | Feb 27 05:33 |
| oiaohm | Basically bias reporting against Unions was not exactly wise. | Feb 27 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry.. | Feb 27 05:34 |
| schestowitz | They have Murdoch to back pseudo-unions like Tea Party | Feb 27 05:34 |
| oiaohm | He tried that here as well. | Feb 27 05:35 |
| oiaohm | Only pissed the real unions off completely. | Feb 27 05:35 |
| oiaohm | Particularly the major one transport union. | Feb 27 05:35 |
| schestowitz | It's all about the $$ | Feb 27 05:36 |
| oiaohm | Transport Union here is richer than all the Australian press. | Feb 27 05:36 |
| oiaohm | So yep big money. | Feb 27 05:36 |
| oiaohm | Not the group to annoy. | Feb 27 05:36 |
| schestowitz | To quote Colbert from last week, "it's like sticking your penis in a hornets' nest" | Feb 27 05:37 |
| oiaohm | We have our own natural hornets nest | Feb 27 05:37 |
| oiaohm | We have mining unions transport and manfactioning as the top 3. | Feb 27 05:38 |
| oiaohm | And of course the electrical unions. | Feb 27 05:38 |
| oiaohm | And when all get up set the place goes to hell. | Feb 27 05:39 |
| schestowitz | But Murdoch is still richer | Feb 27 05:45 |
| schestowitz | He and his friends can build fake grassroots movements | Feb 27 05:46 |
| schestowitz | Like Tea Party, to deny global warming in unison | Feb 27 05:46 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: https://identi.ca/notice/65515823 | Feb 27 05:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 27-Feb-11 05:42:38 UTC - Identi.ca: US man gets 25 years for South Park threats http://ur1.ca/3cjo4 sounds disproportional. How about #Flanagan and #Palin ? Too big to jail? | Feb 27 05:46 |
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| schestowitz | "Al-Awlaki, a US citizen who lives in Yemen, has been targeted for killing by US forces as a global terrorist." | Feb 27 05:47 |
| schestowitz | Bush sounds like more of a "global terrorist" to me, personally | Feb 27 05:47 |
| schestowitz | They can't handle people who merely speak out | Feb 27 05:47 |
| schestowitz | Those who drop lots of bomb are golden because they do this from high altitude... | Feb 27 05:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Qt-implementation-for-Android-introduced-1194815.html | Feb 27 05:48 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Not accepted by Google or Nokia at this stage. | Feb 27 05:48 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-big-movies-studios-lose-copyright-suit-against-australian-isp/ | Feb 27 05:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Big Movie Studios Lose Copyright Suit Against Australian ISP | paidContent .::. Size~: 30.88 KB | Feb 27 05:52 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it's all over tech news sites over there... | Feb 27 05:52 |
| schestowitz | It is..... even internationally... | Feb 27 05:52 |
| oiaohm | Really not that much here. | Feb 27 05:53 |
| oiaohm | It was kinda expected. | Feb 27 05:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/41711231421263872 | Feb 27 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @RBReich: If Ds won't stand up to class warfare of Rs (cutting taxes on super-rich, busting unions, slashing Pell grants et al) what's the use of D's? | Feb 27 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Sueing the ISP before attempting to sue the person doing the wrong thing. | Feb 27 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Of course was going to fail. | Feb 27 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Ie Movie Studio was not following the law. | Feb 27 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Of taking out correct court orders. | Feb 27 05:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/941007--speed-thrills-as-supercar-dazzles-toronto-autoshow?bn=1 | Feb 27 05:54 |
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| schestowitz | from trmanco | Feb 27 05:54 |
| schestowitz | Consumerism | Feb 27 05:54 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: not surely a jail-bound case | Feb 27 05:55 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: could maybe bribe some judges | Feb 27 05:55 |
| schestowitz | or put tilted jury in place | Feb 27 05:55 |
| oiaohm | The judge left the door open to future lawsuits but suggests that they would only succeed in cases where the ISP “authorized primary acts of infringement.” It’s hard to imagine a case like that exists. << | Feb 27 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Authorized primary acts of infringment could happen of a court order to disconnect a particular user is giving and the ISP disobeys. schestowitz | Feb 27 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes legally Movie companies here have to attack 1 by 1. | Feb 27 06:08 |
| oiaohm | Part of the problem is prior cases of transport companies transporting drugs without them knowing schestowitz | Feb 27 06:10 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/f-a-hayek-on-central-planning-in-socialism/ | Feb 27 06:29 |
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| schestowitz | There was a similar case in the UK recently | Feb 27 06:30 |
| schestowitz | ACS:Law | Feb 27 06:30 |
| schestowitz | Mass-suing infringers (Alleged) in the US too | Feb 27 06:30 |
| schestowitz | Hurt Locker | Feb 27 06:30 |
| schestowitz | Then the copyright troll Righthaven | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | They always lose | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Class action works | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Many vs one guilty party | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Not the opposite wy | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | *Way | Feb 27 06:31 |
| schestowitz | Then, the judge need to check the innocence of one party, not many | Feb 27 06:34 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Feb 27 06:47 |
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| sebsebseb | oh chocolaate-maan did flood this channel earlier | Feb 27 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | as well | Feb 27 07:00 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Feb 27 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm see above or whatever | Feb 27 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | it joined and left a link in the part message | Feb 27 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | it's going around quite a few Freenode channels | Feb 27 07:02 |
| schestowitz | How odd... I've just been retweeted by scoble.. http://twitter.com/#!/scobleizer | Feb 27 07:03 |
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| schestowitz | Despite my arguments with him | Feb 27 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Well, maybe he changed his ways after years away from Microsoft. We shall see... | Feb 27 07:03 |
| oiaohm | Techically by law Class Action can work both ways. schestowitz | Feb 27 07:16 |
| oiaohm | But its rare for a Class Action to be done against many Guility parties. | Feb 27 07:17 |
| oiaohm | It has happened in some cases of patent infringment. | Feb 27 07:17 |
| oiaohm | There is one problem for Class Action against many possible guility parties. If 1 can prove the are not guility all get off. schestowitz | Feb 27 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Is there a test case for copyright? | Feb 27 07:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, patent I can think of several example, inc. Traul Allen | Feb 27 07:18 |
| oiaohm | If I can remember there was a test case here. | Feb 27 07:19 |
| schestowitz | The problem is, you need to actively check many defendants | Feb 27 07:19 |
| schestowitz | If there are many plaintiffs with identical *complaint* like in class action, then it's easier | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | It was over a artiral republished in many mags/newpapers that was falsely author marked. | Feb 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz | One target to many is hard | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | There were two test cases. | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | One where the person goofed it. | Feb 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz | Many to one target is simple | Feb 27 07:20 |
| schestowitz | You just divide the damages | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | And attacked one partly who was not infringing | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes that got the complete case thrown out with no means to go forward in future. | Feb 27 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Many vs 1 guility is less risky. | Feb 27 07:21 |
| oiaohm | Since if 1 person case in the Many is found invalid the case against the guility is not dropped. | Feb 27 07:21 |
| schestowitz | Meat market of lawsuits | Feb 27 07:21 |
| oiaohm | Very much. | Feb 27 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Lets say vendor were all selling suspect meat from the same source. | Feb 27 07:22 |
| oiaohm | All the vendors could be sued as one group. To save on court time. | Feb 27 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Ie same offence. | Feb 27 07:23 |
| oiaohm | So techically copyright could sue over people bittorrent downloaidng a particular file. | Feb 27 07:23 |
| oiaohm | as 1 class action. | Feb 27 07:23 |
| oiaohm | If they are providing it on. | Feb 27 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Of course class action method for many guility is rare since the odds of the guility getting off is high. | Feb 27 07:24 |
| oiaohm | But with copyright were people download many infringing files. You can have many shots at the problem. | Feb 27 07:25 |
| oiaohm | So it might be a valid option. | Feb 27 07:25 |
| schestowitz | It overburdens the court system | Feb 27 07:27 |
| oiaohm | That is the risk of course. | Feb 27 07:29 |
| oiaohm | Lawyer who brings too many failed cases before a court can be disbarred. schestowitz | Feb 27 07:30 |
| oiaohm | It could be a really interesting game to watch. schestowitz | Feb 27 07:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, I saw that happen | Feb 27 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Very notorious cases and nutty plaintiffs | Feb 27 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Basically overburdens would be worse is if each one was sued solo. | Feb 27 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Yet laywers also have to watch themselves it could be a very good game. | Feb 27 07:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has not sued in a while | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Since Motorola, I think | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they ran out of easy targets | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Nothing vs Google for their own Google-branded Android phones | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Or Sony-Ericsson | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | Tough targets | Feb 27 07:35 |
| schestowitz | They took on the Motorola giant | Feb 27 07:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBhl1Fb1GbU LOL | Feb 27 07:50 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: The motorola case is not ended. And MS cannot afford to turn the back on it for a second. | Feb 27 09:20 |
| schestowitz | True, it's good to see | Feb 27 09:30 |
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| pogden | Hi guys I love freedom | Feb 27 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Odd greeting. pogden | Feb 27 12:47 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Feb 27 12:54 |
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| schestowitz | I'm furous today... | Feb 27 14:29 |
| schestowitz | *rious | Feb 27 14:29 |
| schestowitz | "Server has been unusable all day today because someone's utilisation is 100% of the box for several hours since the morning. Any fallbacks available? I can hardly make any progress with reliance on a shared server." | Feb 27 14:30 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: VPS are cheap. | Feb 27 16:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: "Too big to jail"! perfect! | Feb 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: also annoying (VPS) | Feb 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | It's not even virtual | Feb 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I'll have a meeting about it next week | Feb 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I also sent a mail complaint and this is finally responsive, so maybe someone changed a few things | Feb 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz | It's a quad-core server | Feb 27 17:17 |
| schestowitz | So should be easy to force one user to access no more than 1 or 2 core, leaving the rest to others | Feb 27 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | i can always reinstall my colo unit if you want a dedicated machine... | Feb 27 17:30 |
| schestowitz | This one if not a web server but a computational one | Feb 27 17:34 |
| schestowitz | I appreciate the offer BTW | Feb 27 17:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | o | Feb 27 17:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | np | Feb 27 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | Good news... | Feb 27 20:28 |
| schestowitz | We might have some cartoonist for the site soon.. :-) | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy! | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Hi there! Before I forget, please mail back ASAP to confirm you got my message (been filtered to the point where I cannot guarantee people receive messages. I think PGP is to blame). | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Feb 27 20:29 | |
| schestowitz | > I know, I've threatened to write a blog for many years now. Have | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > started and stopped so many times, and gotten sidetracked from it all | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > with business, home and family issues. I have many responsibilities | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > here, and WAY too many people to take care of, sometimes. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I totally understand. Family comes first. We too are like family of sorts... | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Feb 27 20:29 | |
| schestowitz | > However, I am planning to retire before the end of the year. (Yay!) | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > Which will greatly reduce my work hours, though I'll likely continue to | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > keep a few local, small-business contracts as part-time income. So I'll | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > have more time to pursue my OWN projects for a change. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | In my adult life I have always felt like I was doing my own projects; it's just not easy to find those projects. PJ found Groklaw, I found imaging research, others find golf... | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > One project that you inspired many moons ago, was creating some | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > cartoons. I originally did some rough sketches of a few famous tech | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > people (sweaty steve, amongst others), but had to set it aside when | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > family emergencies arose (multiple times). | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | There's Nina http://ninapaley.com/ which I like a lot. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > It's been hard to get back into the project since then. But I still do | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > quick 'idea' sketches when I get inspired, and have started some | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > story-boards to (possibly) turn those basic 'toons, into real comics | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > with a storyline, like a comic strip with two to four panels. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Good idea. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > I've never done such a project before, though I have done many | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > illustrations for other people's books, it's different when the | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > illustrations *are* the story. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | It's all in the storyline... | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > It's not as easy as I thought it would be, but I think it's do-able. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, if - instead of a blog - I am able to get some | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > technology-related-political-type cartoons/comics done, would you be | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > interested in seeing them first? | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Of course! I'd love to. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > I'd really like to have someone I trust to look at them, to help make | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > sure that the issues are presented clearly, before I put them online. | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > (Hopefully, they'll be funny, too!) | Feb 27 20:29 |
| schestowitz | They are also everlasting, thanks to search engines, unlike printed/pressed newspapers. | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > I'll release them under a CC license so they'll be free for anyone to | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > use, but if you'd like to help me with fine-tuning them (making sure I | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > use terminology correctly, and such), you could have first choice, if | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > you'd like to use them on TR, before I put them online. | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | That would be great. We lack stuff like cartoons to lighten up the place... | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > I'm not sure, really where to upload them. Google's Picassa has very | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > limited storage without paying for more. I really don't like Flickr at | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > all...any suggestions of a good way to make them available? | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | My relative in Florida, Anita, hosts hers with me... http://schestowitz.com/Anita/ | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | It is also possible to set up a CMS like: http://schestowitz.com/Gallery/ | Feb 27 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | > I'm pretty sure I won't be able to do much before November, but I'd like | Feb 27 20:30 |
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| schestowitz | > to start planning and preparing for it now - like getting things (like | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > topics and sketches, etc) organized and get more proficient with the | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > software I'd like to use (Inkscape and Gimp), so I'll be ready to go | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > when my retirement starts. | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I'm moving further north (still in Manchester) next week, so I will be around to help for a good while to come. | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > What do you think? | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I think it's a great idea. | Feb 27 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/65571749 | Feb 27 21:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 27-Feb-11 21:27:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "Working behind the scenes to ... praise ... damnation of the enemy's, is a key evangelism function" http://tinyurl.com/yzx8ok3 | Feb 27 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Good. We're getting a member active again \o/ | Feb 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | > /"Hi there! Before I forget, please mail back ASAP to confirm you got my | Feb 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | > message (been filtered to the point where I cannot guarantee people | Feb 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | > receive messages. I think PGP is to blame)." | Feb 27 22:04 |
| schestowitz | > / | Feb 27 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi! I did send you a reply (a few minutes ago) before I even read your | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > email. :) | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I don't like E-mail because it's sometimes like speaking to a person whom you think is not wearing headphones (broken mail filters)... then proven otherwise. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > /"I totally understand. Family comes first. We too are like family of | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > sorts..."/ | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > That's very kind. It's also one of the best things about being able to | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > connect to people across the world. It makes all of us richer for the | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > experience, don't you think? The world really is one big (unruly) | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > family. :) | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | The Egyptian uprise with support from the West (esp. on the Web) was a great example. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > /"In my adult life I have always felt like I was doing my own projects; | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > it's just not easy to find those projects. PJ found Groklaw, I found | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > imaging research, others find golf..."/ | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > I guess I've pretty much done my own projects too, but mostly in the | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > fact that I hated being "employed". So I decided to just employ | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > myself...at least then I'd know my boss would leave me alone to do my | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > job. lol | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | That's priceless. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > The truth is that I've worked harder and put in longer hours (and been | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > hungrier) building my own business than I ever would have if I'd just | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > stayed in the corporate world. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | One's own business is also corporate. Contribution to society cannot be measured in terms of money; sometimes the relation ends up an inversion; richest people are often exploiting the most, suggests a lot of evidence. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > I actually worked for a well-known ad agency when I was younger, but | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > that's such a cut-throat world. I hated it, even though the creative | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > side was fun, and I did well with that part. It seemed like any success | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > on my part, just brought out the blood-thirsty competitiveness in | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > others. I really don't do well in that sort of environment. So I got out. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | PR industry can be harmful. I have strong feelings on the subject. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > Thus far I've had to concentrate on getting (and keeping) clients that | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > pay for creative content, but I'm looking forward to turning that | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > creativity towards more important things, soon, without having to worry | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > so much about getting paid. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Money does not go with a person after his/her death; artful work and reputation, however, last very long. So monetary excess has little practical value in the long term. Among my great ancestors (4 generations upwards) I know only a few, and not for achievements related to wealth. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > /"There's Nina http://ninapaley.com/ which I like a lot./" | Feb 27 22:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > I like Nina's work too, she's exceptional, and I like her attitude. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but I don't know what she looks like. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > /"Anyway, if - instead of a blog - I am able to get some | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > technology-related-political-type cartoons/comics done, would you be | Feb 27 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > interested in seeing them first?" | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > "Of course! I'd love to."/ | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > Yay! | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > /"I think it's a great idea." | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > /I'm glad to hear that. It will give me incentive to keep going with it. | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > Good luck with your move. It seems like only yesterday you moved to your | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > current place. I remember having a discussion with you about pots and | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > pans at the time...haha. | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I replaced these with Tefal. That was in 2009. I move into another place now... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-32653265.html | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > I was trying to remember when I first found your postings on Digg, it | Feb 27 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 1 bedroom apartment to rent in Christabel,104 Dalton Street,Manchester,Greater Manchester, M40 .::. Size~: 47.96 KB | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > had to have been at least 2005...2006? I don't know, time just flies | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > away these days (I mostly ignore it). | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I only joined Digg in 2006. Then I rose quickly, up to 17th (ranked by popular stories). | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > Anyway, I've always been very proud to know you. :) | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > Ok, I better stop writing and go find some dinner now, | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | > take care, (looking forward to the next TechBytes!) | Feb 27 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Tim is too busy at work this week. :-( | Feb 27 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/65572526 | Feb 27 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 27-Feb-11 21:44:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Convert Microsoft to Linux - 700 Megahertz Pentium III will be as quick as the latest Celeron 2.6Ghz http://tinyurl.com/4ge59dn | Feb 27 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: maybe we should do a techbytes episode about moles | Feb 27 22:13 |
| schestowitz | http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/02/26/chrome-os-panels-and-google-talk-app-go-cross-platform/ | Feb 27 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Feb 27 23:07 |
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