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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @cynbznt ♺ AlanFisher President Obama is watching Al Jazeera English. Don't you wish you could? #DemandAlJazeera http://ur1.ca/3442rFeb 05 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks wikileaks: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets http://is.gd/k7qgkx http://bit.ly/gTwpRVFeb 05 00:06
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*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsFeb 05 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @wikileaks: !WikiLeaks cables shed light on true !ACTA history http://ur1.ca/33osp !cablegate !copyright #cdnpoliFeb 05 00:11
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twitterhello, GoblinFeb 05 00:11
_Goblin:)Feb 05 00:11
_GoblinbonjourFeb 05 00:11
twitteranything new?Feb 05 00:12
_Goblinnah....just getting some posts together....Feb 05 00:12
_Goblinlove the ACS:Law news thoughFeb 05 00:12
_Goblinand MediCATFeb 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Introducing Perf-O-Matic 2.0 http://bit.ly/dYUKnvFeb 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb Hi mate, Im here should you wish to chat.Feb 05 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Australian lawyer says: Gillard continues to get it wrong on #Assange http://ur1.ca/344as !wikiLeaksFeb 05 00:12
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twitterdid not see mediCatFeb 05 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gillard continues to get it wrong on Assange - Unleashed (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 277.87 KBFeb 05 00:12
_Goblinthey are just connected with ACS:Law...Feb 05 00:12
_Goblinthe proxy plaintiff's so to speakFeb 05 00:13
_GoblinAlso sold out (again)....bought BattleField 1943 on PSN....great stuff!Feb 05 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange: "We will keep the bastards honnest" (video) http://alturl.com/wjibs !wlFeb 05 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Assange: "We will keep the bastards honnest" (video) http://alturl.com/wjibs !wlFeb 05 00:17
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twitterI've been working with VirtualBox.  It is a lot of fun and I'm able to try out all sorts of crazy things.Feb 05 00:17
_Goblinnever really used itFeb 05 00:18
_Goblinnever had the need.Feb 05 00:18
twitterI'm using it because my boss wants me to have a copy of Windows working.Feb 05 00:18
twitterThat worked, but I have yet to use it.Feb 05 00:18
cubezzzbooooFeb 05 00:18
twitterbut VirtualBox has been great fun with Debian.Feb 05 00:19
twitterI've got an E17 playbox.Feb 05 00:19
_GoblinBoo Windows.....there was me thinking I had sold out for buying Battlefield 1943 for the PS3Feb 05 00:19
twitterHey, it's not my Windows, it's my boss's.Feb 05 00:19
_Goblinthats what they all say ;)Feb 05 00:20
twitterI've got legacy devices to run from time to time.Feb 05 00:20
cubezzz"Boss buys me a perfect conditon Amiga 4000"Feb 05 00:20
cubezzzthat would be betterFeb 05 00:20
twittersure wouldFeb 05 00:20
twitterI'd rather not have any non free software, but vendors pushed it on the company I work for and I don't have much choice but to use the devices they own.Feb 05 00:21
twitterthings are changing.  until then, I'm glad to have Wine and VirtualBox.Feb 05 00:22
_GoblinI personally don't care...I choose the best software for me.....Feb 05 00:22
_Goblin(in respect of proprietary)Feb 05 00:22
cubezzzoh proprietary is fine... as long as I get source code ;-)Feb 05 00:22
twitterI care.  The non free stuff always runs like the trash it is.Feb 05 00:23
twitterSome is worse than others.Feb 05 00:23
_Goblinand until you can convince me that a FOSS game can be up to the demands of the current gamer (and production quality) then I will never be convinced....I also don't think you can crowdsource a game.....Feb 05 00:23
_GoblineffectivelyFeb 05 00:23
cubezzzin a way it doesn't matterFeb 05 00:23
twitterAsk ID games about that.Feb 05 00:23
cubezzzif you are determined enough you can reverse engineer anythingFeb 05 00:23
twitterThey routinely liberate their source code.Feb 05 00:23
_Goblinbut its not the code thats the issue...Feb 05 00:24
twitterThere are still problems getting free accelerated drivers but that is also changingFeb 05 00:24
_Goblinits the CGI, the actors voiceovers the bells and whistles which makes gaming like Hollywood these days....thats what the mainstream demand.Feb 05 00:24
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cubezzzyeah we are talking different eras I thinkFeb 05 00:25
cubezzzmostly I play old stuffFeb 05 00:25
twitterSony seems to be doing very well with PS3, I thought that was some kind of linux exploitationFeb 05 00:25
_Goblinthe linux feature has been removed....Feb 05 00:25
twitterTalk to them about not being assholes.Feb 05 00:26
_GoblinIve been very critical of them for it.Feb 05 00:26
cubezzzwhatever thing I'm on, I want to be able to at least write my own stuff on itFeb 05 00:26
twitterWhat does PS3 run on it's own?Feb 05 00:26
_Goblinand I'd agree fullyFeb 05 00:26
twitterI thougt it was some kind of Tivoised Linux.Feb 05 00:26
_GoblinotheosFeb 05 00:26
_Goblin*otherOSFeb 05 00:26
_Goblinubuntu derived (I believe)Feb 05 00:26
cubezzzI hear some people have un-tivoized their tivo'sFeb 05 00:26
twitterDid Sony really cook up their own OS for their gaming system?Feb 05 00:26
_Goblinsorry, I may have misunderstood.....Feb 05 00:27
twitterThat's a lot of effort and I doubt the quality would be as good as it would be if they just used Linux.Feb 05 00:27
_Goblinthe OS the PS3 runs - pass....Feb 05 00:27
_Goblinthe Linux that was great to install on PS3 was OtherOSFeb 05 00:27
twitterwhat is pass?Feb 05 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning's imprisonment is “not just for his own protection”: http://t.co/ZSaCBfG !wlFeb 05 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink RD @ajimran #Egypt: Egyptian security detained Aljazeera Network's office director in Cairo Abd al-Fattah Fayed and journ ...Feb 05 00:27
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_Goblinmeans I don't knowFeb 05 00:27
_GoblinI could probably wikiFeb 05 00:27
twitterwiki did not know the last time I lookedFeb 05 00:28
twitterSony also developed the Cell with IBM.  I doubt they would use anything but Linux to run it.Feb 05 00:28
_GoblinYellow Dog was another distro for PS3Feb 05 00:28
_Goblin(I believe)Feb 05 00:28
twitterYellow Dog was a powerPC specialist, but lots of distros have a powerPC branch.Feb 05 00:29
cubezzzah, the perfect computer eludes us stillFeb 05 00:29
twittera free computer is kept from you by non free software makersFeb 05 00:29
cubezzzthere is Micro-KimFeb 05 00:30
twittercompanies like Microsoft pollute the hardwareFeb 05 00:30
cubezzzit's 100% openFeb 05 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @BlueShoes55 Mubarak pathetically hanging on in Egypt⇒ SO Custer's last stand at Little Big Horn #WhatPartOfLeaveDoYouNotUnderstandFeb 05 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Bradley Manning's imprisonment is “not just for his own protection”: http://t.co/ZSaCBfG !wlFeb 05 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Drop the Case Against Assange : Foreign Policy http://is.gd/Tdi1tl !wlFeb 05 00:31
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_Goblinnow that the PS3 has been busted open though (and they cited Linux as a security risk, hence the option removed) can we have the option to install another OS back on the PS3?Feb 05 00:31
cubezzzfuzebox is pretty open tooFeb 05 00:31
cubezzzor is it fusebox?Feb 05 00:31
_Goblinit seems Linux or not, PS3 was still hacked...Feb 05 00:31
twitterI'm glad it was hacked.  It would be nice to run free software on it.Feb 05 00:32
_Goblinyep....agreedFeb 05 00:32
_Goblintheres some great scope for homebrew there.Feb 05 00:32
twitterbut I'm not going to buy one while Sony is acting the way they do.Feb 05 00:32
twitternot even usedFeb 05 00:33
twitterwhen companies like Apple and Sony tell me to go away, I do.Feb 05 00:33
_GoblinI am probably a little bias with Sony products....not because I have any affiliation, its just Sony products have been the most popular with my family.Feb 05 00:34
twitterI do own at least one used Apple computer, a powerPC one.  It is better than a similar vintage intelFeb 05 00:34
twitterSony makes some excellent toys, no doubt.Feb 05 00:34
_Goblinits a shame they are not a little more openFeb 05 00:34
twitterPSPortable is really cool, but restrictions limit itFeb 05 00:35
_Goblinit was doomed in the face of the DS though....Feb 05 00:35
_Goblinand I have a feeling its next generation will be doomed by the 3DSFeb 05 00:35
twitterI'm not interested in stale, non free code that comes with legal restrictions and threatsFeb 05 00:35
_Goblinbut it depends at what level.....Feb 05 00:35
_Goblinif I have a task to do, I could care less if its open closed or inbetween as long as it meets my requirements.  My FOSS choices have all come about not because they are FOSS but because they are better than proprietary.Feb 05 00:36
cubezzzdid anyone see that new thing that looks just like a c64?Feb 05 00:36
_GoblinnoFeb 05 00:36
cubezzzexcept it's really a modern computer insideFeb 05 00:36
twitterthe keyboard computers that Roy pointed to in his links the other day?  Yes, those are very interesting.Feb 05 00:37
twitterAsus is off base to charge $600 for theirs.Feb 05 00:37
_Goblincant people make one themselves?Feb 05 00:38
_GoblinGut an A1200...I recon there is enough room for a modern spec (ish) pc.Feb 05 00:39
cubezzzhttp://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspxFeb 05 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Spacewalk 1.3 released - http://spacewalk.redhat.com/yum/1.3/ #fbFeb 05 00:39
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_GoblinI made a MAME cabinet once....Feb 05 00:39
cubezzzGut a 1200?Feb 05 00:39
_GoblinlolFeb 05 00:39
cubezzzno way I would do thatFeb 05 00:39
_GoblinI know...it killed me to say itFeb 05 00:39
twitterI don't think so.  They use HDMI connectors.  Don't those have nasty handshakes?Feb 05 00:39
_Goblintwitter, no I was meaning just leave the A1200 casing and stuff it full of PC bits.Feb 05 00:40
cubezzzthese like like rendered only thoughFeb 05 00:40
twitteroh yeah, I was sharing fun with VirtualBox.Feb 05 00:40
twitterThe more I use it, the more interesting I think it is.Feb 05 00:40
_GoblinWhen I look at a distro for my site, I do a real install....I don't count it as accurate reflection of the distro otherwise.Feb 05 00:41
cubezzzI'd like a modern c64, but as a real 6510 machineFeb 05 00:41
twitterThe other day, I resurrected an Etch laptop image.Feb 05 00:41
cubezzzwith ssd or somethingFeb 05 00:41
twitterNow it's a VM.Feb 05 00:41
_GoblinIm not impressed with SSDFeb 05 00:41
_Goblinits supposed to be sooooo much faster....Feb 05 00:41
_GoblinI have 16 (gasp) gig of SSD on my netbook....Feb 05 00:41
twitterAnother nice thing is the ability to run LiveCDs without having to burn themFeb 05 00:41
cubezzzwell it is, if you compare to 1541 :)Feb 05 00:41
_Goblinor audio tape for loading data ;)Feb 05 00:42
cubezzzyeah that's really going backFeb 05 00:42
_Goblintwitter: why not then just use USB stick?Feb 05 00:42
_Goblintwitter: even cheaper thenFeb 05 00:42
_Goblin* not cheaperFeb 05 00:42
_Goblin* quickerFeb 05 00:42
_GoblinIm tired.Feb 05 00:42
twitterWhy would I make a USB stick to boot a virtual machine?Feb 05 00:43
twitterit's easier to use a file.Feb 05 00:43
_Goblinno - instead of burning livecdFeb 05 00:43
_Goblinyou were using a VB to justify not burning liveCD....I suggested USBstick insteadFeb 05 00:43
twitterWhy do either, when you can test out the distro in a VM instead of digging up a real computer.Feb 05 00:43
twitterThat's one of the fun things about VMsFeb 05 00:44
_Goblinbecause, as I say, I don't count it as an accurate reflection of the distro on my specs if its in a VBFeb 05 00:44
_Goblin*VMFeb 05 00:44
twitterYou can try out all sorts of software without having to fool with a real machine.Feb 05 00:44
cubezzzreally what would you rather have, an Amiga 4000 emulator or a real 4000?Feb 05 00:44
cubezzzno contestFeb 05 00:44
twitterI'd rather have the emulatorFeb 05 00:44
cubezzzo_OFeb 05 00:45
twitterthat way, I can take it with my laptopFeb 05 00:45
twitter;-)Feb 05 00:45
gnufreexIs there amiga emulator?Feb 05 00:45
_Goblincubezzz: maybe he never owned an amigaFeb 05 00:45
twitterperhaps run two or three with different configurationsFeb 05 00:45
_GoblinUAEFeb 05 00:45
cubezzzthere's emulators, and they aren't too greatFeb 05 00:46
_Goblingnufreex: sorry, UAEFeb 05 00:46
_Goblinits fantastic....Feb 05 00:46
_Goblinworks like a charmFeb 05 00:46
gnufreexIt is for 68k amigas, or can work with PPC...Feb 05 00:46
gnufreexI have Amiga OS 4.1Feb 05 00:46
gnufreex(pirated)Feb 05 00:46
gnufreexIt runs on PPCFeb 05 00:46
_Goblinburn him! Pirate!Feb 05 00:47
twitterI understand that the Amiga had special hardware that made things like video overlay easy, but emulators are probably faster by now.Feb 05 00:47
gnufreexRuns A-Eon machinesFeb 05 00:47
cubezzzwell there's mini-migFeb 05 00:47
cubezzzforgot about thoseFeb 05 00:47
twitterRight now, I'm having more than enough fun with VirtualBox.Feb 05 00:48
_Goblinand Windows ;)Feb 05 00:48
twitterany windows is more than enoughFeb 05 00:48
twittertoo muchFeb 05 00:48
twitteremulators are a good way to run unfriendly softwareFeb 05 00:49
_GoblinI was very impressed with the N64 emu for linuxFeb 05 00:49
twitteryou can build machines with zero personal information and save them as files to be deleted and copied.  You can also carefully restrict their network accessFeb 05 00:50
_GoblinMupen I think it was called.Feb 05 00:50
cubezzzyeah I run vice sometimesFeb 05 00:50
twitterfree software emulators give you some control over nasty and restricted software.Feb 05 00:50
*gnufreex checking that UAC thing... UAEFeb 05 00:50
cubezzzI can't get full screen on it thoughFeb 05 00:51
_GoblinI http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Emulators/E-UAE-24577.shtmlFeb 05 00:51
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_Goblincubezzz: don't think I had a prob....Feb 05 00:51
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gnufreexUAE is 68k only :(Feb 05 00:53
gnufreexCan't run this new thing.Feb 05 00:53
_Goblinthats all I needFeb 05 00:53
cubezzzcan uae do 1200 emulation?Feb 05 00:53
gnufreexI have real Amiga for that.Feb 05 00:53
_Goblininfact Im not really that interested in the 68020 proccessor at the moment.Feb 05 00:53
twitterdoes qemu have a 68k emulator?Feb 05 00:53
_GoblinUAE does emulate A1200Feb 05 00:53
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gnufreexI have Amiga 500Feb 05 00:54
_Goblinbest one!Feb 05 00:54
_Goblinwhat kickstart?Feb 05 00:54
_Goblinbest one IMO (1.3)Feb 05 00:54
gnufreexI don't rememberFeb 05 00:54
gnufreexI didn't use it for years.Feb 05 00:54
gnufreexIt seems that new A-EON stuff will use PA Semi CPUs that are still in stockFeb 05 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Getting Online Abroad: One of the best travel purchases I have made is an unlocked high-speed USB 3G modem. It a... http://wmk.me/iigJ1PFeb 05 00:56
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gnufreexApple bought PA semi and killed itFeb 05 00:56
gnufreexBut some CPUs leftFeb 05 00:56
gnufreexAnd US army suplier got themFeb 05 00:56
cubezzz_Goblin, I can't get full screen on x64Feb 05 00:56
_GoblinI'll have a little look at mine....I say I can...At least I think I could...its been a while since I ran it full screen, Ive been using the real thing recently for a little coding.Feb 05 00:57
cubezzzdouble is 640x400 I thinkFeb 05 00:58
cubezzzoriginal res 320x200 I thinkFeb 05 00:58
_GoblinyepFeb 05 00:59
twitterno one hates Windows like people forced to use itFeb 05 01:00
_Goblinremember trying to look at an interlaced screen mode on a 1980's CRT TV?Feb 05 01:00
cubezzzyesFeb 05 01:00
_GoblinlolFeb 05 01:00
_Goblinmind meltFeb 05 01:00
cubezzzemulation as it's advantagesFeb 05 01:00
cubezzzas=hasFeb 05 01:00
_Goblinyour eyes would liquidize and come out your ears.Feb 05 01:00
_GoblinI have a similar hatred to 1080iFeb 05 01:01
_Goblinand whilst Im starting to rant......Feb 05 01:01
_Goblinwhy why why is it seen as acceptable for HD TV Channels to broadcast in 720p?  Thats not HD IMO.Feb 05 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @panko felicidades viejoooooooooooouuuuuu!!! xD (b) :DFeb 05 01:02
_Goblin* and certainly not on anything over 40 inches.Feb 05 01:03
cubezzzwell reruns of Gilligan aren't going to look any better :)Feb 05 01:03
cubezzzsome stuff just isn't HDFeb 05 01:04
cubezzzStar Trek was an exception thoughFeb 05 01:04
_Goblinlol....thats one thing though...the HD TV can destroy some stuff.......terrestrial TV or VHS....a HD Tv can turn that image to vomit.Feb 05 01:04
_GoblinLord of the Rings is fantastic on BluRAYFeb 05 01:05
_Goblinand 'Arry PotterFeb 05 01:05
cubezzzbut I already bought LOTR on VHS and DVD whine whineFeb 05 01:05
cubezzzoh wellFeb 05 01:05
_Goblinand I still have the BluRAY box set of Pacific that I had as an Xmas pressie...its still in its wrapper.Feb 05 01:05
_Goblingot to get around to watching that.Feb 05 01:06
cubezzzsome old stuff looks good on bluray I hearFeb 05 01:06
cubezzzsome old moviesFeb 05 01:06
_Goblinyeah........Full Metal Jacket looked quite goodFeb 05 01:06
_Goblinthats about as old as it gets in my collectionFeb 05 01:06
twitterfor near HD, you should try using an ordinary projector and gnu/linuxFeb 05 01:06
_Goblin?Feb 05 01:07
_Goblinwhat 1080p HD?Feb 05 01:07
_Goblinon a projector?Feb 05 01:07
twittermost projectors do 1024x768Feb 05 01:07
twitterthat's not 1080pFeb 05 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Oz 0.1.0 (tool for automatically installing guest OSs with only minimal up-front input from the user) released - http://ur1.ca/344pl #fbFeb 05 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] French translation of Free Software Needs Free Tools (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) is republished at Framasoft (http://ur1.ca/1jy7b). Thanks Alexis!Feb 05 01:07
twitterbut it deals with DVD and friends very wellFeb 05 01:07
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_GoblinI know, I was being tongue in cheekFeb 05 01:07
cubezzzwell I run 320x200 so thereFeb 05 01:07
cubezzzon a 19" CRTFeb 05 01:07
_GoblinI doubt a project would give me the same output quality as my HD tv and a PS3 BluRAYFeb 05 01:08
_Goblin*projectorFeb 05 01:08
twitterwhy run it on a 19" CRT when you could project it to a 12 foot wall?Feb 05 01:08
cubezzzfor 320x200 mode?Feb 05 01:08
twitterawesomeFeb 05 01:08
cubezzzthe pixels would be hugeFeb 05 01:08
_Goblinlegoland!Feb 05 01:08
twitterright, what funFeb 05 01:08
twitterwake me up when blueray crack is as easy to use as decssFeb 05 01:09
cubezzzor even better, vic-20Feb 05 01:09
twitterthen I'll be interestedFeb 05 01:09
_GoblinahFeb 05 01:09
cubezzzDVDs suck alsoFeb 05 01:09
twitterdecss fixes dvdFeb 05 01:09
twitterworks greatFeb 05 01:10
cubezzzno it still sucksFeb 05 01:10
twitterhow so?Feb 05 01:10
cubezzzclosed firmwareFeb 05 01:10
cubezzzregion codesFeb 05 01:10
cubezzzetc etcFeb 05 01:10
twitterdecss gets around all of thatFeb 05 01:10
cubezzzdid does notFeb 05 01:10
_Goblinor you could just buy a multi-region DVD playerFeb 05 01:10
twitterreally?Feb 05 01:10
cubezzzthe firmware will block you, even on linuxFeb 05 01:10
twitterdvd backup makes ordinary mpeg2Feb 05 01:11
twitterah - I seeFeb 05 01:11
cubezzzyou can always hack the firmware if you are determined enoughFeb 05 01:11
cubezzzbut it's not easyFeb 05 01:11
twitterthe firmware will refuse to do anything with your out of region dvd, even in a computer.Feb 05 01:11
twitterhow nasty!Feb 05 01:11
cubezzzexactlyFeb 05 01:11
twitterI suppose that only leaves you with torrentsFeb 05 01:12
cubezzzbut there's a program called regionsetFeb 05 01:12
cubezzzwhich is available on linux... it's more of a stop-gap measure thoughFeb 05 01:12
cubezzzyou can change the region code 5 times then you are stuck againFeb 05 01:12
twitterif it has to mess with dvd firmware, it is a nasty gapFeb 05 01:12
twitter I suppose that is why digital sharing is so wonderfulFeb 05 01:13
cubezzzso let me know if you can get region free computer dvd burner :)Feb 05 01:13
cubezzzI haven't found one yetFeb 05 01:13
twitterif you are not under MAFIAA watch, you could probably just bittorrent any foreign movie you want.Feb 05 01:14
cubezzzthats no answerFeb 05 01:14
cubezzzbesides, I have the dvd already :)Feb 05 01:14
twitterthat would be a lot easier than finding the right piece of hardwareFeb 05 01:14
_Goblintwitter: or you could just go with usenet binarieFeb 05 01:14
twitterfalling through the decade ......Feb 05 01:15
cubezzzI was foolish, I should have bought an NEC dvd burnerFeb 05 01:15
cubezzzthose are moddableFeb 05 01:15
twitterwell, thanks for the info about dvds.  I thought that decss was the complete answerFeb 05 01:16
twitterbbl, I have some work to doFeb 05 01:16
_Goblinsee ya later.Feb 05 01:16
cubezzzplus the stand-alone players can't do stuff like mkv'sFeb 05 01:16
_GoblinI think....(and I could be wrong)Feb 05 01:17
_Goblinthat the Toshiba I have does.Feb 05 01:17
_Goblinit handles xvid and many others.Feb 05 01:17
cubezzzhaven't seen anything that does mkv and I kind of doubt there isFeb 05 01:17
_Goblinyou are probably right....I will have to check, but Im sure I found a dodgy format a while back that I was surprised the Tosh played.Feb 05 01:18
cubezzzthe mplayer guys just told me to use a laptopFeb 05 01:18
cubezzzbut I think I only have composite out which sucksFeb 05 01:19
cubezzzor at least that's the only cable I haveFeb 05 01:19
_GoblinI have a sad story to tell you about cabling....Feb 05 01:19
_GoblinI know a stupid mug who payed £59 for an HDMI cable from the Sony Store.Feb 05 01:20
cubezzzthat sounds bad :)Feb 05 01:20
_GoblinI'll give you one guess who that was (he was sold on the sales pitch about gold connectors and better quality)Feb 05 01:20
cubezzzwell it could be worseFeb 05 01:20
_Goblinthey must have seen me coming a mile offFeb 05 01:21
cubezzzyou could have gutted a 1200 and turned it into a windoze box :)Feb 05 01:21
_GoblinlolFeb 05 01:21
_GoblinTV/DVD was never really my thing so I buy into the sales patter for those items.Feb 05 01:21
cubezzzmore black boxesFeb 05 01:21
twitterfriends don't help friends install windowsFeb 05 01:21
cubezzzI try to avoid stuff like thatFeb 05 01:22
_GoblinI also bought into laserdisk many years ago.Feb 05 01:22
_Goblinand VCDFeb 05 01:22
cubezzzthere's hardware assisted cdi too :)Feb 05 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Final hours to vote http://goo.gl/at7nr in transmediale/drumbeat open web awards. Top finalists Booki (free culture book production), GML...Feb 05 01:22
cubezzzyou could have bought that tooFeb 05 01:22
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_Goblinthe only thing I didn't get suckered with was HD-DVD and that was only because MS was pimping it, so I knew it had to be dodgy,Feb 05 01:22
cubezzzah, saved by hatred of M$Feb 05 01:23
_Goblinyeah....my usual formula is:Feb 05 01:23
_GoblinTake what MS says, invert it and thats probably the truth.Feb 05 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] ALSA 1.0.24 Has Arrived, Bringing Better Linux Audio: ALSA 1.0.23 was released in April 2010 as a major update t... http://bit.ly/gEdRlGFeb 05 01:24
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cubezzzthe laptop idea has meritFeb 05 01:24
cubezzzthe next prob will be dumping bluray to the hard driveFeb 05 01:24
cubezzznot sure how hard that isFeb 05 01:24
_Goblinhaven't really looked into it...Feb 05 01:25
cubezzzmy pioneer dvd kind of sucksFeb 05 01:25
cubezzzit can't display long filenames on the tvFeb 05 01:25
cubezzzI think it does maybe 14 charactersFeb 05 01:26
cubezzzin other ways, it's not too badFeb 05 01:26
cubezzzit can do PAL/NTSC, wmv and mp3 and mpeg2 filesFeb 05 01:26
_Goblinwmv still about?Feb 05 01:28
_GoblinI never really d/l any videoFeb 05 01:28
cubezzzwell it pops up now and then on torrentsFeb 05 01:28
cubezzzhardly idealFeb 05 01:28
_Goblinand people choose this format?Feb 05 01:28
cubezzz_Goblin, wimbledon?Feb 05 01:28
cubezzzall the tennis is on wmvFeb 05 01:29
twitterffmpeg2theoraFeb 05 01:29
_Goblinand I thought my £59 purchase was silly.Feb 05 01:29
twitteror just ffmpegFeb 05 01:29
cubezzznot only that, but encrypted wmv :)Feb 05 01:29
twittergarbage in, garbage outFeb 05 01:29
twitterdeleteFeb 05 01:29
cubezzzof course I decrypted it but still...Feb 05 01:29
cubezzza major painFeb 05 01:29
cubezzzit was content I paid for after allFeb 05 01:30
cubezzzI think the vid was around $10Feb 05 01:31
_Goblingn allFeb 05 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without argument." -- Julian Assange http://youtu.be/zL6433U87HU !wlFeb 05 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ransom paid for Canadian diplomats: leaked cable http://bit.ly/hkCAZM !wlFeb 05 02:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @creativecommons More info on Open Content Licensing 4 Educators Workshop http://wikieducator.org/Open_content_licensing_for_educators #fbFeb 05 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @fontana "A possible game changer for invalidating bad software patents" by Rob Tiller & comments by @webmink http://ur1.ca/33xqi #fbFeb 05 02:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I don't have a lawn you insensitive bastards! #getoffmycedarchipsFeb 05 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @lh Students, submit posters to #HFOSS symposium - travel grant & registration fee waivers available. http://bit.ly/fkk4th #opensourceFeb 05 02:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Lol! ♻ @psquid What. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHIZ2Jl2vuQ #fbFeb 05 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stop the WikiLeaks crackdown! Get to 1,000,000 signatures: http://alturl.com/2bsdi !wlFeb 05 02:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Don't you hate it when your parents start losing their memory and they forget where they put something that you lent them? *sigh*Feb 05 02:39
twittergn, folksFeb 05 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Kettling At The G20 - How Come Charges Were Dropped Against Those Kettled? http://bit.ly/fn9Gt0 #g20 #g8 #justice #policeFeb 05 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 431 tser : The Muunas dream burns my soul http://bit.ly/i9R4JG #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitFeb 05 02:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Now you are making me blush.Feb 05 02:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: MT @q_e_d LRAD not a restricted weapon so there is nothing to prevent the Chief from using it -TPS Board #g20 #g20reportFeb 05 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: David Suzuki: It will take more than rebranding to make tar sands oil 'ethical.' http://bit.ly/hL987u #climate #cdnpoliFeb 05 02:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] Stop the !WikiLeaks crackdown! Get to 1,000,000 signatures: http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?twitterspreadCFeb 05 03:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 'Our time has come' Assange tells rally http://is.gd/NRF2Ps !wlFeb 05 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] The Free Technology Academy posted a lecture I gave on antifeatures. http://ur1.ca/345kpFeb 05 03:32
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rawfulsewageHey, I'd like to point out that your captcha on the website doesn't do much to prevent bots from logging in via irc clientsFeb 05 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] patch applied and testing #téstFeb 05 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Update on false allegation that WikiLeaks hacked its content http://alturl.com/tkxz7 !wlFeb 05 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What is up with the New York Times? | RT http://alturl.com/i442f !wlFeb 05 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Spacewalk 1.3 released - https://fedorahosted.org/spacewalk/ http://spacewalk.redhat.com/yum/1.3/ via @harishpillayFeb 05 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks events and protests http://alturl.com/nyrng !wlFeb 05 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks events and protests http://wlcentral.org/events-protests http://bit.ly/fCjLxuFeb 05 04:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] A Visual Glance At the Gov. Censorship Around the World http://yuxiyou.net/open/Feb 05 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] >> R @marjoleink: "A tense calm grips Egypt" http://is.gd/XHT7B2Feb 05 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Migrating HBase: In the Trenches http://bit.ly/eIs4POFeb 05 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "This is a revolution now, and if we stop halfway, many of us are going to die." ~AJE http://ur1.ca/346f4 #egypt #jan25Feb 05 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @safeworld4women: In #Tunisia, Women Play Equal Role In Revolution http://j.mp/hAc55QFeb 05 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @StratenMalaysia: WSJ: Hackers Penetrate NASDAQ Computers http://bit.ly/g5XVU8 via @aglb66 @cbsnewsFeb 05 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @davidmarsden: There's a thick line between genius and stupidity.Feb 05 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google is Starting to Fight Against Software Patents http://ur1.ca/346j7 #Google opposition to #swpats - at last?Feb 05 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Google is Starting to Fight Against Software Patents http://ur1.ca/346j7 #uspto #i4i #Microsoft #redhat #android #linuxFeb 05 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] this time on Saturday morning completely alien 2 me & I feel out of place, but there's only so long U can spend trying 2 get back 2 sleepFeb 05 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ALSA 1.0.24 Has Arrived, Bringing Better Linux Audio http://goo.gl/hpcUzFeb 05 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linuxinsider: Honeycomb's Holography: Hope or Hooey? http://ping.fm/EpAS4Feb 05 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Cryptome: Wikileaks Dissed and Distanced by NYT-Guardian http://ping.fm/c5sH8Feb 05 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me listening to Classical Interpretations of Armin van Buren, played by the Noord Nederlands Orkest.Feb 05 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Shock, Horror: International Chamber of Commerce Promotes Intellectual Monopolies http://ur1.ca/346sk #icc #swpatsFeb 05 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shock, Horror: International Chamber of Commerce Promotes Intellectual Monopolies http://ur1.ca/346sk #uspto #epo #IntellectualMonopoliesFeb 05 06:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @munhu: Owning the #blackberry torch in South Africa like buying a CL63 AMG Bi-Turbo & U live on 1km long island. The internets hre R kakFeb 05 06:37
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twitterWindows botnet snares UK Foreign Office for Chinese spies.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/04/chinese-super-spies-foreign-office-computersFeb 05 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~ R @ghabuntu: Shock, Horror: International Chamber of Commerce Promotes Intellectual Monopolies: More ICC propaganda http://bit.ly/fxgDbMFeb 05 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] India On Verge of ''Cultural Ecocide' Says Scholar - Hindu Press International - BlogsNews - Hinduism Today Magazine http://ping.fm/8hnIxFeb 05 06:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @Satyagrahi_ji @sarahraslan: A letter to the world by an Egyptian protester http://bit.ly/h2E5RR #Jan25 #EgyptFeb 05 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @TonyClement_MP: RT @tpurves Heavy internet users not "hogs". Heavy internet users are the early adopters of the digital future. @acoyneFeb 05 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New version of Archbang Linux reported at Distrowatch http://is.gd/lXmbd7Feb 05 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror The injured protesters still chanting. Thugs bored. That's the difference between one who really wants freedom & one who wants $9Feb 05 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ @TonyClement_MP: RT @tpurves Heavy internet users not "hogs". Heavy internet users are the early adopters of the digit ...Feb 05 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gillard continues to get it wrong on #Assange http://ur1.ca/344as #au !wikileaksFeb 05 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @davidmarsden I'm going back to bed to see if I can get a bit more stupid.Feb 05 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Shock, Horror: International Chamber of Commerce Promotes Intellectual Monopolies http://ur1.ca/346sk #uspto #epo #Intel ...Feb 05 07:02
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scientesegypt is quite somethingFeb 05 07:03
schestowitzHi, scientes, twitterFeb 05 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @jkoblovsky RT @rickmercer: The Harper government has endorsed Mubarak"s "plan" to stay on. Maybe he should just Perogue.Feb 05 07:04
scientesyou been fallowing egypt?Feb 05 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder what XP users do about #IPv6?Feb 05 07:06
scientes2 million + protestorsFeb 05 07:06
scientesthrowing out america-backed governmentFeb 05 07:06
scientesthe same one that Obama said "was a good guy" when he was there, and gave that speech that american media laudedFeb 05 07:06
schestowitzYeah, Blair tooFeb 05 07:08
scienteswell, US+UK are such natural loversFeb 05 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Paper Cut: NYT dumps !WikiLeaks after cashing in on nobel cause http://ur1.ca/346yxFeb 05 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter Kettling At The G20 - How Come Charges Were Dropped Against Those Kettled? http://bit.ly/fn9Gt0 #g20 #g8 #justice #policeFeb 05 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There are recent updates to most of the iOS jailbreak tools, Greep0ison etc - you already know where to look if you use an iPhone I'm sureFeb 05 07:09
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scientesread, only thing in recent history can compare to is belarus, and to a lesser degree anti-USSR revolutions in eastern europeFeb 05 07:09
schestowitzscientes: yes, strategically the UK+US are better off togetherFeb 05 07:10
scientesBonum certamen certaFeb 05 07:10
schestowitzBut it was the British and French who disrupted SuezFeb 05 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No more free passes for #Egypt and other Arab autocracies http://ur1.ca/346z6 #clientstateFeb 05 07:11
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scientestrue ? certain?Feb 05 07:11
schestowitzThey started a war over access to itFeb 05 07:11
scientesalso egypt+israel+usFeb 05 07:11
schestowitzYesFeb 05 07:11
scientesbut yes UK+US has been that way for 200 yearsFeb 05 07:11
schestowitzThe weapons repositoriesFeb 05 07:11
scientescept during brief time during civil warFeb 05 07:11
scienteswhen the UK aristocrats were behind the plantation aristocrats, before the industrial revolution finially roled over in UKFeb 05 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Debian NYC Squeeze release party http://ping.fm/wDEuMFeb 05 07:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stewartalexj/status/33782948863934464Feb 05 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr@stewartalexj: @schestowitz She is a capitalist and conservative i cant differentiate her between Tony Abbot.Feb 05 07:13
schestowitz("Gillard continues to get it wrong on #Assange http://ur1.ca/344as #au #wikileaks")Feb 05 07:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] will @linode start offering IPv6 addresses?Feb 05 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Stronger concerns grow around Apple's new exclusive payment policy in AppStore http://ur1.ca/346z9Feb 05 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Times Washes Away Julian #Assange http://ur1.ca/3470z learn why the #NYTimes is a scummy, scummy publicationFeb 05 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ... Hosni Mubarak went from being a soldier to having net worth of over $40B in 30 years! Why don't we bring him over here...Feb 05 07:21
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scientesfirstamendmentcoalition.comFeb 05 07:21
scienteson wikieleaks and lack of source privacy in the USFeb 05 07:21
scienteslooking at it--it is also an attack on the 4th amendment, 8th amendment, and 5th amendmentFeb 05 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ...accused Mubarak of failing them &he responds with thin abstractions about the nature of freedom &chaos' http://ur1.ca/345b7Feb 05 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♺ @themadhatter RT @jkoblovsky RT @rickmercer: The Harper government has endorsed Mubarak"s "plan" to stay on. Maybe he ...Feb 05 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @marjoleink: two Amnesty International workers have been released #egypt http://is.gd/vtI3XqFeb 05 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @marjoleink: big blast at cross-border gas pipeline in North Sinai - saboteurs or "terrorists"? http://is.gd/vtI3Xq #egypt #israelFeb 05 07:26
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twitterThis Mubarak guy must be a great and innovative guy, like Bill Gates ->  schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ... Hosni Mubarak went from being a soldier to having net worth of over $40B in 30 years!Feb 05 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Watching the x-men trilogy (again).Feb 05 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 RT @AymanM two of my colleagues from aljazeera arabic have gone missing in #cairo we don't know who took them #jan25 #tahrirFeb 05 07:27
scientestwitter: niceFeb 05 07:28
schestowitzGroomed to harm societyFeb 05 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Justice Department says #BP fund should be spent faster http://ur1.ca/3472kFeb 05 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disappearances up the ante in #Tahrir Square http://ur1.ca/3472j #egyptFeb 05 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #mubarak et al. are now lying about casualties, having reportedly told hospitals not to count deaths from bullets. #warcrimeFeb 05 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 @avinunu NY Times with new details on Obama-Hillary-Omar Suleiman plan to hijack, defuse Egyptian revolution http://t.co/xT8Nnrf\Feb 05 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Andy Pescovitz's custom videogame LEGO Minifigs http://ur1.ca/34730Feb 05 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Reverse class-action? It's the latest tactic in the P2P wars http://ur1.ca/343tzFeb 05 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ #Egypt says only 11 dead; AlJazeera's sources put the figures in the hundreds;Amnesty says regime distracting from #humanrights violationsFeb 05 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Egypt: Vodafone and France Télécom say Egyptian gov forced them to send pro-Mubarak mass texts http://ur1.ca/34738Feb 05 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Egypt: The Egyptian government expresses its opinion of Al Jazeera http://ur1.ca/3473jFeb 05 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Our time has come' Assange tells rally http://ur1.ca/3473h "he'll continue to expose "abusive organisations"."Feb 05 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Wikileaks ACTA cables confirm it was a screwjob for the global poor http://ur1.ca/3473mFeb 05 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @diablod3 !Wikileaks ACTA cables confirm it was a screwjob for the global poor http://ur1.ca/3473mFeb 05 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UPDATE on #Bloomberg reports about #FBI contractor and !WikiLeaks http://wlcentral.org/node/1209Feb 05 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fireside: NY Times Are Cowards http://ur1.ca/34743 #nytimes #pentagon #cowardsFeb 05 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fairvotewrc @thismagazine has new idea for #ElectoralReform - Pay the voters http://this.org/magazine/2011/02/02/mandatory-voting-ca ...Feb 05 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Fireside: NY Times Are Cowards http://ur1.ca/34743 #nytimes #pentagon #cowardsFeb 05 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks #ACTA cables confirm it was a screwjob for the global poor http://ur1.ca/34751Feb 05 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ED @poissonjensen ♻ @haloefekti →_→"Egyptian bloggers to follow on Twitter ( http://ur1.ca/3474p ) #Egypt #jan25 cc @cynbzntFeb 05 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter What worries me most is the influence of wealthy interests on politicians who are supposed to be there to serve the electorateFeb 05 07:41
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tessierhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talcGAOj9YQ Product placement FAILFeb 05 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Egyptian Government Intrudes on Mobile http://ur1.ca/3475g criminal #propaganda - and the bullies burn down info: http://ur1.ca/3473jFeb 05 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera What worries me most is the influence of wealthy interests on politicians who are supposed to be there to serve the electorateFeb 05 07:42
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schestowitztessier: I notice that they apparently pay popular YouTubers to say that tooFeb 05 07:43
schestowitzRay William Johnson for exampleFeb 05 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Most politicians are influenced by money and second job offers. Most succumb and convince themselves they are not.Feb 05 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter It is not cynicism to acknowledge the obvious. There is a sizable honourable minority.Feb 05 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: #MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave http://ur1.ca/3476g 'the UK’s situation “uniquely challenging"' #ifwlFeb 05 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Morning RoyFeb 05 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: The British counter-terror programme that 'fails to stop extremists' http://ur1.ca/3476x "wasting taxpayers’ money"Feb 05 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] *LOL* "I asked President Mubarak about the violence that his supporters launched" http://ur1.ca/33qk2 You mean the 'supporters' he *BOUGHT*?Feb 05 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ABC is not independent news, it sells (for the right price) http://ur1.ca/21lmx ABC, how about some /real/ questions for a war criminal?Feb 05 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera 0/Feb 05 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The corporate press is grooming #mubarak but it cannot show (or pretend) to support him because he is unpopular. #Suez #oil #clientstateFeb 05 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RD @KnowledgeEmpire "Individuals, not governments, have the right to !privacy" #Assange !WikiLeaks !cablegate << Yes!Feb 05 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera @themadhatter Most politicians are influenced by money and second job offers. Most succumb and convince themselves they are not.Feb 05 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nisshh Haha, http://xkcd.com/856/ #funny // #xkcd #humourFeb 05 08:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ED @poissonjensen ♻ @haloefekti →_→"Egyptian bloggers to follow on Twitter ( http://ur1.ca/3474p ) #Egypt #jan25Feb 05 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Elazul: Mubarak does what seems Impossible, unites Republicans & Democrats: McCain and Kerry both say mubarak should leave now. #Jan25Feb 05 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For his next act, #Mubarak shall pick a truck and run it over his people, then tell ABC how he hates seeing internal violence. *sigh* #egyptFeb 05 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @abridgetoegypt: Reuters is reporting that Tantawi, #Egypt's defense minister is at Tahrir square #Jan25Feb 05 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer LOL "There's a network spnsored by wikileaks!"guy behind me at MUC Airport.He doesn't know it's the name of my Android hotspotFeb 05 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] another family member damaged our (my) car yesterday!Feb 05 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Torrific.com - http://bit.ly/hXrE2J interesting approach: "Download #torrents from the web. No client software to install."Feb 05 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Torrent allows people to exchange 0s and 1s efficiently, just like any other protocol. If #mafiaa bans torrent, it can ban *anything* next.Feb 05 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is common for a business to daemonise competition one item at a time, shutting down disruptive trends in turn. #analogueMindsetFeb 05 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canadians ought to fight for the whole world (precedence) against #UBB -- an attack on the likes of #YouTube and *any* high-traffic mediumFeb 05 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Through radio, television and printed paper (aka "dead trees") some conglomerates are used to being paid per packet/page/pulse. Net==threat.Feb 05 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] /me likes sylpheedFeb 05 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Distributed Party Of 'We' Is Already In Control - http://bit.ly/eI2jkU interesting pointFeb 05 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad Display system running on #Ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/347f1Feb 05 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @eebrah: Linux sex: date ; unzip ; strip; touch; mount; etc.. Windows sex: start ; explore ; reboot ; viruscheck ; solitaireFeb 05 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros ars technica: Canada still wants to "discipline the use of the Internet" http://goo.gl/UOH0p //Internet should discipline Canada ;)Feb 05 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian English - http://bit.ly/hRkMri fascinating #english #linguistics #australiaFeb 05 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Expulsion and Explosion: How Leaving the Internet Fueled Our Revolution http://ur1.ca/347gd also gave cautionary tale to West re InternetFeb 05 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @webmink Is OpenJDK Open-By-Rule? My evaluation, on CWUK: http://wmk.me/gMZ7vd also see http://ur1.ca/347gv #java #openjdkFeb 05 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @grep: #AlJazeera: Army promises to protect protesters against any assaults.<< #mubarak from the army uses army as "good cop" in this gameFeb 05 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Create a photorealistic candle http://ur1.ca/347ha free software for HOT effects!Feb 05 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me playing Shenmue II on NullDCFeb 05 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mubarak prepares succession which is still based around the military (as the US intended); events in Cairo serve to confirm this.Feb 05 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a nation is centred around military power,the needs of the people are squashed (security/torture at expense of personal freedom) #egyptFeb 05 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @DahgMahn: "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." — Groucho Marx #ianFeb 05 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What to make of this? #swpats http://truereform.piausa.org/Feb 05 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ovigia ♺ @p2pnet: ACTA: ‘prime role of the US’. !WikiLeaks. La Quadrature du Net http://ur1.ca/347jgFeb 05 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "there is information that is either "omitted from" the proxy statement or is included but is "misleading"." http://ur1.ca/347jw #cptn $novlFeb 05 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ [Friday] @grep: AlJazeera: Around 500,000 protest in Al Mansoura asking for #Mubarak to leave now. #Egypt #Jan25Feb 05 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay On PBS in 2007: "Spying on the Home Front" - interesting info about Narus etc. http://ur1.ca/33ywz #fb // #Narus #egyptFeb 05 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mubarak calls freedom "chaos". Blair calls a tyrant "courageous". Obama calls corporocracy "hope" and invasion of Afghanistan "change".Feb 05 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] At #fosdem, alreday met @datachatmer @jwildeboer and lotsa other peopleFeb 05 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Sorry I've misspelled @datacharmerFeb 05 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @TonyClement_MP In a development rich w/ irony, I seem 2 have hit a cap in the number of peeps I can Follow on Twitter Trying 2 overturnFeb 05 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Professor Moglen also around. His speech in less than an hour #fosdemFeb 05 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@TonyClement_MP if you have reached this cap, then you probably don't follow them. Then it becomes like so-called "friends" in Facebook.Feb 05 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @grep: #AlJazeera: Millions of #Egyptians protest all over the country wanting #Mubarak to step down now. #Jan25Feb 05 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Village Telco in Dili, Timor Leste - what an inspiration and success of FOSS all over! http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4697619/ #fbFeb 05 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Disney Lays Out Its Plan for #Android [VIDEO] http://ur1.ca/347nw via @gbraad the #linux guruFeb 05 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror: Good Morning, America! It's 9 am EST. Call the White House: 202-456-1111: Mubarak must leave #Egypt, & regime change! #jan25Feb 05 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay RT @grep AlJazeera ARABIC: Malaysians march in solidarity with #Egyptians http://t.co/e1dc0ADFeb 05 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Faenza Icons http://ur1.ca/347p1Feb 05 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lxoliva @schestowitz assuming Mubarak is a puppet, he may have been told to set the stage to justify an invasion in return for protectionFeb 05 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Android App To Send / Receive SMS Messages (And More) Using Your Computer: AndroidPC [Linux, Windows, Mac] http://goo.gl/yHpdgFeb 05 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Silver Fox: An Interview with System76 co-founder Carl Richell http://goo.gl/wWVtgFeb 05 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Justin Dugger: 64-bit really does matter http://goo.gl/kW3UUFeb 05 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Android App To Send / Receive SMS Messages (And More) Using Your Computer: AndroidPC [Linux, Windows, Mac] http://bit.ly/hsbWrAFeb 05 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #FOSDEM - New version of !GNOME 3 live image http://goo.gl/xEdMYFeb 05 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frederic Crozat blog: FOSDEM - New version of GNOME 3 live image .::. Size~: 46.58 KBFeb 05 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC: Obama seeks quick Egypt handover http://ur1.ca/347qy I love the headline. Handover to *whom*? ;-)Feb 05 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So this CIA agent, Obama, and #Mubarak walk into a pub... keys are being exchanged, a lot of champagne consumed. #clientState #egyptFeb 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Alshaheeed: People in #tahrir are EGYPTIANS of all sexes,ages,religions and affiliations!stop spreading lies EgyptianTV!!!!#jan25 #egyptFeb 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb was "snakes on a plane" inspired by politicians flying around to drum up votes in Primaries?Feb 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If you see a strange bearded guy with a green T-shirt over a sky blue jersey, that's I.Feb 05 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Why the French secret services hate #HADOPI [fr] - http://bit.ly/hl26kJ because people are encrypting their connectionsFeb 05 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What encryption means to us is that only two nodes exist which can decipher messages.To government, "encryption" is a 3-party scheme (tango)Feb 05 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do you encrypt your E-mail? If not, why not? Are the mail clients/ISPs/hosts making encryption easily accessible and encourage its use? #pgpFeb 05 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb leaked cables show #ACTA was designed to pressure developing nations, just as we suspected all along http://bit.ly/dR7iS4Feb 05 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who are trampled are not "haters". They just don't like being stomped on. In #egypt "national" TV daemonises protesters, expectedly.Feb 05 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leaked State Department Cables Confirm That ACTA Was Designed To Pressure Developing Nations | Techdirt .::. Size~: 95.38 KBFeb 05 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Protester" -- like "whistleblower" -- evokes images of unlawful behaviour/violence (partly due to agent provocatuer tactics, PR tricks).Feb 05 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's call protesters "representatives". In #egypt many millions attend public territory/squares to represent democracy. Sounds better, eh?Feb 05 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Even the interpretation and use of words involves a process of free creation." ~Noam ChomskyFeb 05 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj Cartoonist Trolls Bigots With Web Trickery (Giz): http://gizmo.do/gWZeWnFeb 05 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New York Times & Guardian Editors Will Support Assange if Prosecuted http://ur1.ca/347ug !wikileaks now disowns #NYTimes - so should you.Feb 05 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New York Times & Guardian Editors Will Stand Alongside Assange if Prosecuted .::. Size~: 74.43 KBFeb 05 09:31
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-facebook-video-count-has-been-plummeting-for-five-months/Feb 05 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      Facebook Video Count Has Been Plummeting For Five Months                                                |  paidContent  .::. Size~: 35.44 KBFeb 05 09:31
schestowitzTo hell with them...Feb 05 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senator Wyden Asks WTF Is Up With Homeland Security Domain Seizures http://ur1.ca/347x4 #copyright a matter of home security? #LOL #failFeb 05 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senator Wyden Asks WTF Is Up With Homeland Security Domain Seizures | Techdirt .::. Size~: 255.51 KBFeb 05 09:41
oiaohmschestowitz: keep watching the au linux conf videos I hope they release the keynote that is going to be sensored.Feb 05 09:42
oiaohmIt is about items like FacebookFeb 05 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Supreme Conflict of Interest http://ur1.ca/347xm #scotus #greed #cronyismFeb 05 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  A "Supreme" Conflict of Interest - Common Cause  .::. Size~: 133.13 KBFeb 05 09:42
schestowitzoiaohm: what's with the talk that get censored?Feb 05 09:43
schestowitzFor bondage and alleged sexismFeb 05 09:43
schestowitzOr animal sexFeb 05 09:43
oiaohmBoth 1 image of each.Feb 05 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China gets a lot of flak for pollution but it's only because the West sends wage slavery production there,lobbies for poor env. regulationsFeb 05 09:44
oiaohmYes any other year it would have been acceptable but this year we had a new policy.  schestowitzFeb 05 09:44
oiaohmNote censor out the images would not effect the talk in anyway.Feb 05 09:44
oiaohmLanguage is also a bit stuff.  the F work and the F*****d word gets used  a bit.Feb 05 09:45
oiaohmBut he did put a warning at the start of the talk about that.Feb 05 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @qu1j0t3 @lxoliva The US as global dictator would never voluntarily cede any influence or power. cc @schestowitzFeb 05 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @peterb Job opening at the FSF: Campaigns Manager http://ur1.ca/33q1o << US residents only support the #fsfFeb 05 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Job Opening at the FSF: Campaigns Manager — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.15 KBFeb 05 09:47
oiaohmNote the animal sex one was the classic pig doing the a swan image. schestowitz.  Ie for being screwed over.Feb 05 09:48
schestowitzYeah..Feb 05 09:49
schestowitzITwire wrote about itFeb 05 09:49
schestowitzDidn't see it elsewhere..Feb 05 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @peterb Job opening at the FSF: Campaigns Manager http://ur1.ca/33q1o << US residents only. Support the #fsfFeb 05 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tracyrreed: Microsoft is paying people to say "binged" instead of googled. How pathetic. Google didn't have to pay to be verbed.Feb 05 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab: EU patent deal to be signed on Monday?Feb 05 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Job Opening at the FSF: Campaigns Manager — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.15 KBFeb 05 09:49
oiaohmBut the talk is about who controls your data.  schestowitzFeb 05 09:50
oiaohmschestowitz: and the ramifications of the information they have.Feb 05 09:50
oiaohmYes the censored form would fit straight into topics techrights covered.Feb 05 09:51
oiaohmBut due to needing video editing it most likely will be last to be released if at all.Feb 05 09:51
oiaohmYes I agree with him being ripped over the 2 images they were not required for the points he was making.Feb 05 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Viva Cubaleaks! http://ur1.ca/3480l HT @ovigiaFeb 05 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Viva Cubaleaks! .::. Size~: 45.46 KBFeb 05 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Debugging my #FOSDEM talk for today 17:00: "Power, Freedom, Software". See you in the GNU Dev Room!Feb 05 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Arrived at fosdemFeb 05 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Mesa-dev] Add #wayland EGL platform http://ur1.ca/3481v #mesa #freesoftware #graphicsFeb 05 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This is some nice #WordPress blog, but the theme is proprietary http://falkvinge.net/ Maybe it's time for a !techrights redesign...Feb 05 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Falkvinge on Infopolicy - Discussions on information policy and civil liberties .::. Size~: 101 KBFeb 05 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many lobbying groups that call themselves "I****" (where I stands for international) conveniently assume they can take Africa off the mapFeb 05 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #Anonymous launches Operation Yemen - http://bit.ly/hss0WU "against websites operated by the government of #Yemen"Feb 05 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera America loses another ally as Yemen's President quits http://is.gd/qMfHEC #warondemocracyFeb 05 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The American war on democracy (which they euphemistically call "spreading democracy")is failing because their autocrats are being kicked outFeb 05 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                  America loses another ally as Yemen's President quits -                     Middle East, World - The Independent .::. Size~: 112.79 KBFeb 05 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The West SpreadsDemocracy{tm} like the knife spreads butter. So... who's hungry? :-)Feb 05 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leave Exxon alone. It is spreading carbon. "Plant food" http://ur1.ca/24qtmFeb 05 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @creativecommons African Virtual University launches its #OER interactive portal in 3 languages under CC BY-SA: http://oer.avu.org/Feb 05 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Africa hardly pollutes the planet, but it receives a lot of "ewaste" (poison euphemism) from the West, as does China.Feb 05 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @stankutcher: How can #crtc compare !ubb to heating oil? Oil finite, information is not. Champion the internet! #halifaxFeb 05 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Press currently speaks of many illegitimate governments in the middle east but avoids mentioning Israel, which suffers from gentle fascismFeb 05 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There are rumours of motions to overthrow brutal leaders in east Europe too (I've heard about some, no news reports though)Feb 05 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks has helped spark some critical skills because people saw they were not told the truth by their authorities. Result: transparency.Feb 05 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Moglen: Freddom Box Foundation cretaed 2 days ago.Feb 05 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Egypt's military-industrial complex http://is.gd/utsJCR !wlFeb 05 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Egypt's military-industrial complex | Pratap Chatterjee | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 136.47 KBFeb 05 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Funny that #FOSDEM is all about FOSS yet promotes only twitter not identi.ca for posting ...Feb 05 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @DemocracyCanada: Bill Blair's final bill of $90M doesn't include $160M in lawsuits from #G20 festival of head-cracking #cdnpoli #newtoysFeb 05 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @jwildeboer freddom, whats that?! Dumb Fred in a box?Feb 05 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter ... RT @james24dean: @ioerror The top brass, including Suleiman, is as bad as Mubarak, thats why they are the top brass.Feb 05 10:27
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/63759119Feb 05 10:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Claes Wallin (clacke)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-11 10:26:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Do native English speakers really percieve "whistleblower" in this way? For me it has connotations of referee or safety valve.Feb 05 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] First Q to Eben is on decentralized identity. Well, that's what we do with #Freedentity and #UTNR this evening at #l33tm33tFeb 05 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of the #tahrir Protesters: 7. Immediate prosecution of the corrupters and those who robbed the country ...Feb 05 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of the #tahrir Protesters: 6. Immediate prosecution for those responsible of the deaths of the revolut....Feb 05 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hope to spot @fabsh @methoddan at #FOSDEM soonish :-)Feb 05 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@clacke the word "watchdog" has a more positive connotation than "whistleblower" because the latter usually breaks some rules to show crimeFeb 05 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of the #tahrir Protesters: 5.An elected Parliament that will ammend the Constitution to allow for pres ...Feb 05 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror: RT @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of the #tahrir Protesters: 4. Formation of a national transitional governmentFeb 05 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror: RT @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of The #tahrir square Protestors: 3.Dissolution of The People's Assembly and Shora CouncilFeb 05 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror: RT @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of The #tahrir square Protestors: 2. End of the Emergency StateFeb 05 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror: RT @suzeeinthecity: The 7 Demands of The #tahrir square Protestors: 1. Resignation of the presidentFeb 05 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody ♻ @lilianedwards Is publishing pix of crime online contempt of court?1st UK case coming..http://bit.ly/gw8lLu >>interesting #ukFeb 05 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 Fox News bitches at Obama for not using the King Murdock Version of the Bible http://ur1.ca/342e7Feb 05 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] signing up @yongyuan using the new !Fedora Ambassador process. It is not really an improvement! :-sFeb 05 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Handing Control of the #Internet to Governments: Bad Idea http://ur1.ca/348cq same goes for #FogComputing #payPalin #visa #amazoff etc.Feb 05 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSSH 5.8 released http://ur1.ca/348dg #sshFeb 05 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Handing Control of the Internet to Governments: Bad Idea - Tech Talk - CBS News .::. Size~: 63.71 KBFeb 05 10:37
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oiaohmReally the goverment control one schestowitz is the natural outcome.  I know I don't exactly like it.  It what happens to all wide wests sooner or latterFeb 05 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mgeist ♺ @natnewswatch: Poll: Canadians Flatly Reject Usage Based Billing for Internet Access http://bit.ly/f7H7gq #cdnpoli !StopUBBFeb 05 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikileaks Dissed and Distanced by the New York Times and the Guardian http://ur1.ca/348ej old media/press exploits its sources, as usualFeb 05 10:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadians Flatly Reject Usage Based Billing for Internet Access  | Vision Critical .::. Size~: 31.26 KBFeb 05 10:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Dissed and Distanced by the New York Times and the Guardian .::. Size~: 9.69 KBFeb 05 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @themadhatter Kettling At The G20 - How Come Charges Were Dropped Against Those Kettled? http://bit.ly/fn9Gt0 #g20 #g8 #justice #policeFeb 05 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: Ex-SAS officers hired as 'human bait' by foreign shipping firms http://ur1.ca/348g5 #ifwl #truth #foiFeb 05 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: Nigeria pressured UK to drop charges against politician http://ur1.ca/348gh AG "attempted to blackmail British officials"Feb 05 10:46
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schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12363852Feb 05 10:52
schestowitzheheFeb 05 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Malawi row over whether new law bans farting .::. Size~: 51.83 KBFeb 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: We can't control Duchess of York, David Miliband told angry Turks http://ur1.ca/348hnFeb 05 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks cables: We can't control Duchess of York, David Miliband told angry Turks - Telegraph .::. Size~: 68.58 KBFeb 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wildcard RT @themadhatter Kettling At The G20 - How Come Charges Were Dropped Against Those Kettled? http://bit.ly/fn9Gt0 #g20 #g8Feb 05 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At #FOSDEM. Finally have wifi too. Just saw Eben Moglen talk on basically building a darknet...Feb 05 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @hazzy "McCain Calls Middle East Pro-Democracy Movement A 'Virus'." http://is.gd/32aSpyFeb 05 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Pro-Democracy Movements Are A "Virus"?!  .::. Size~: 41.29 KBFeb 05 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gordon Brown'forced to scrap plan for snap election' http://ur1.ca/348j7 "after the row over smear emails sent by his press aide" !WikiLeaksFeb 05 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wildcard ♺ @hgfernan Do not fear going forward slowly; fear only to stand still. Chinese proverb http://bit.ly/gB5NKz !q #quote #orkutFeb 05 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @creativecommons .. a curated @kickstarter page - check out some of the fantastic CC projects that you can help fund: http://kck.st/e0SKvQFeb 05 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US government spends billions of taxpayers' money giving weapons to middle eastern nations, cannot support #fsf & #cc financially. #oilFeb 05 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Somalia had a lot of oil underneath the ground, the "stability" issues would be addressed there. #oil 1stFeb 05 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] pumping ironFeb 05 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oil can assure intervention but not really security. The gang wars in the Niger Delta prove this. #shell #oil #neocolonialismFeb 05 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets http://ur1.ca/348l3 #nuke #coldwar #uk #diplomacyFeb 05 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks cables: how America spied on the Foreign Office http://ur1.ca/348li "Ivan Lewis... was depressed and had a reputation as a bully"Feb 05 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Financial firm fined $25M for hiding software glitch that cost investors $217M http://ur1.ca/348lx secret proprietary code can cost billionsFeb 05 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Terror camps still operating on Indo-Pak border: !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/348mf helping understand the world better. #ifwlFeb 05 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The Hindu : Front Page : Terror camps still operating on Indo-Pak border: WikiLeaks  .::. Size~: 21.79 KBFeb 05 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @howardkurtz: Cable censors !Canada ... Every time Obama stops and Stephen Harper speaks at presser, MSNBC & CNN bring back their punditsFeb 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm US lawmaker @Dennis_Kucinich requests to see Bradley Manning, "held in unduly severe conditions" http://ur1.ca/343gc //+1!Feb 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Connection was particularly bad at keynote, here's the pic http://ur1.ca/348mwFeb 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: US lawmaker wants to see alleged WikiLeaks source .::. Size~: 9.92 KBFeb 05 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dennis Kucinich was never electable for President for the same reason Nader could never make it. They are actually capable of Change{tm}.Feb 05 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm] "...[#Manning's] treatment while in custody...alarming abuses of his constitutional rights...health"~ @Dennis_Kucinich !wlFeb 05 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "..treatment at Quantico severely undermines the presumption of innocence as enshrined in the US Constitution..."~KucinichFeb 05 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cable illuminates why Yemenis engaged in "Day of Rage" [UPDATE] http://wlcentral.org/node/1204 and the president has just retreated! !wlFeb 05 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-02-04 Cable illuminates why Yemenis engaged in "Day of Rage" [UPDATE] | WL Central .::. Size~: 22.86 KBFeb 05 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "President" is a bit of a misnomer when one is not elected democratically to become one. #Mubarak is a tyrant, not a "president"Feb 05 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #Mubarak must do before he resigns http://ur1.ca/348o3 "Let's end Mubarak's rule the right way so we can start building better future"Feb 05 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hossam Bahgat and Soha Abdelaty - What Mubarak must do before he resigns .::. Size~: 96.43 KBFeb 05 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @roeland !FOSDEM really should be using !identica or !statusnet instead of #twitterFeb 05 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] If only Ubuntu had Arch's color scheme, oh yeah...Feb 05 11:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/33834590690873344Feb 05 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Falkvinge: @schestowitz The theme on falkvinge.net carries a GNU GPL license. Not proprietary in most senses of the word :)Feb 05 11:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/namorix2/status/33846377922428929Feb 05 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@namorix2: @schestowitz @hazzy and USA have anti VIRUS treatment.Feb 05 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@Falkvinge thanks for clarifying. Nice site.Feb 05 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@namorix2 the "anti VIRUS treatment" typically goes by the brand name "Spread Democracy"Feb 05 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gbraad: RT @roeland !FOSDEM really should be using !identica or !statusnet instead of #twitterFeb 05 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] taking some time today to integrate DAHDI support for E1/T1/J1 into #openbscFeb 05 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at FOSDEM http://ur1.ca/348vc #4sqFeb 05 11:49
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schestowitzHi, stefanFeb 05 11:56
FaitherHey there!Feb 05 11:57
FaitherHow are you?Feb 05 11:57
schestowitzI'm all right. I was just about to do some blog postings.Feb 05 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Europa Entra en la Guerra Fría de Patentes http://ur1.ca/348xa #eu #swpatsFeb 05 11:57
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FaitherLooking forward to it ( ;Feb 05 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Cuando #Microsoft Dice Reforma de Patentes Significa Deformación de Patentes http://ur1.ca/348xg #swpatsFeb 05 11:59
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FaitherDo you also speak Spanish?Feb 05 11:59
schestowitzNo, but I have other posts coming. This translation portal is maintained by a volunteer.Feb 05 12:00
FaitherMy offer also still stands if you need some translation to or from German ^^Feb 05 12:01
Faither+done ^^Feb 05 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE 4.6 review http://ur1.ca/348yd "KDE 4.6 has some delights in terms of graphics."Feb 05 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bodhi Linux: Enlightened #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/348z7 #enlightenmentFeb 05 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Window: KDE 4.6 review .::. Size~: 59.93 KBFeb 05 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] quora answer #2: #drm in #webm http://ur1.ca/342an not for now...Feb 05 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Activities – A change in workflow? http://ur1.ca/348zr on #kde activitiesFeb 05 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What an office suite should look like http://ur1.ca/348zr very long article. #openoffice #libreofficeFeb 05 12:06
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schestowitz[12:01] <Faither> My offer also still stands if you need some translation to or from German ^^Feb 05 12:06
schestowitzThat would be great!Feb 05 12:06
schestowitzMostly EU-related stuff like patents is where languages can help because parliament needs to be pressured a bitFeb 05 12:07
schestowitzEU patent might be passed on MondayFeb 05 12:07
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FaitherEspecially the Novell pats -.-Feb 05 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] WSJ: NASDAQ Cracked http://xrl.us/bihgrx (Link to online.wsj.com)Feb 05 12:09
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FaitherJust drop me a line then ( ;Feb 05 12:13
schestowitzExcellent, thanks!Feb 05 12:13
schestowitzbrbFeb 05 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Will talk about "Non-!freesoftware #ads presented by your government", today H.2214 17:40 at #fosdem Else I'll be at the !fsfe booth.Feb 05 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz: I used to really like thinkfree.com, but I just manage with Abiword and Gnumeric since I went off cloudinessFeb 05 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Saw this and thought of you - http://bit.ly/dLvmHAFeb 05 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] Ron Paul adds !WikiLeak-ed Gulf War crimes to the Congressional Record > http://goo.gl/jgWwoFeb 05 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Cairo Dock 2.3 Gets Zeitgeist Integration (Sezen-Like Applet) http://bit.ly/fbFqsuFeb 05 12:49
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FaitherPrinter problem? ^^Feb 05 12:54
MinceRno, just responded to "oki" :>Feb 05 12:55
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 05 12:55
Faitheryep ^^Feb 05 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: What an office suite should look like http://ur1.ca/348zr very long article. #openoffice #libreofficeFeb 05 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: quora answer #2: #drm in #webm http://ur1.ca/342an not for now...Feb 05 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #KDE 4.6 review http://ur1.ca/348yd "KDE 4.6 has some delights in terms of graphics."Feb 05 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: A new #squeeze release file has been created and is now being checked and signed by the release managers.Feb 05 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@debian: Testing is now renamed and wheezy has officially come into existence! Welcome, little penguin! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WheezyFeb 05 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: ...US lawmaker @Dennis_Kucinich requests to see Bradley Manning, "held in unduly severe conditions" http://ur1.ca/343gcFeb 05 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-02-05: Affirmative action in procurement for open standards and FLOSS This paper asserts what I ... http://wmk.me/gZ1ImAFeb 05 13:11
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Faitherg2g byeFeb 05 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am at the fedora booth for the next 30 minutes. In case you want to meet/talk/#l33tm33t ... :-)Feb 05 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Interview with #System76 co-founder Carl Richell http://ur1.ca/349er "We have a couple community programs to help promote Ubuntu." #linuxFeb 05 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $MSFT MVP: #Linux Mint And My First 45 Days Reviewed http://ur1.ca/349f8 "So how has the experience been for me? It has actually been easy."Feb 05 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3.0: Making the same mistakes as #KDE 4.0? http://ur1.ca/349fe "GNOME 3 tries to explore some new innovative desktop stuff" #linuxFeb 05 13:26
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MinceRgnome 3 is making more severe mistakes than kde 4.0 didFeb 05 13:28
schestowitzLike what?Feb 05 13:28
schestowitzLidFeb 05 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Things I Hate Most About Linux http://ur1.ca/349ft and yes, it's sarcasm. #gnu #linuxFeb 05 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @freedentity: Tonight. In Brussels. Get your Transnational ID card! http://l33tm33t.eventbrite.com #UTNRFeb 05 13:29
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/63765244Feb 05 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-11 12:34:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: I used to really like thinkfree.com, but I just manage with Abiword and Gnumeric since I went off cloudinessFeb 05 13:30
MinceRlike forcing a suspend when the user closes the lid of the laptopFeb 05 13:32
MinceRnot giving them a choice to configure that via normal meansFeb 05 13:32
MinceRmaybe hacking gconf can fix itFeb 05 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fake Depth of Field in Gimp - DOF Explained http://ur1.ca/349h5 demonstrating #GIMP powa!Feb 05 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I just added #firestatus, testing it out http://tinyurl.com/4blxkgwFeb 05 13:39
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schestowitzhttp://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/automatically-disable-compiz-when-launching-games/Feb 05 13:39
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schestowitzkwin doesn't like that too muchFeb 05 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] hmmm how do I view new messages with or my timeline with #firestatus? http://tinyurl.com/4blxkgwFeb 05 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: The CDs/DVDs/Blue-Ray builds have now been started. First arch is i386 (aka 32-Bit PC).Feb 05 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: The official Debian FAQ has been updated to reflect squeeze's release. It should soon be available at www.debian.orgFeb 05 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Unknown to the masses, there is a Free Software Users Group in the European Parliament! Spread the word http://epfsug.eu/Feb 05 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Add-on Search Results for identi.ca :: Add-ons for Firefox http://tinyurl.com/4blxkgwFeb 05 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] http://tinyurl.com/4blxkgwFeb 05 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: i386 images are ready, now source images are being build.Feb 05 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] How To Stop Domain Names Being Seized By The US Government http://is.gd/UOzItC #tpn #anon #piracy #dnsFeb 05 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @satipera Actually there's a large honorable majority. At least in Canada there is. Not saying we don't have problems of course... #cdnpoliFeb 05 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Interesting paper "Towards copy-evident JPEG images" - http://is.gd/Or7TRxFeb 05 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Whats new in Debian Squeeze? http://ur1.ca/349jc #debian #gnu #linuxFeb 05 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 431 Recieving Line http://bit.ly/dzfcLV #weblit #webfic #fantasy #reading #mannersFeb 05 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Konstruktor: back and alive! http://ur1.ca/349jr #kde #qt #freesoftwareFeb 05 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : We speak of vengeance, and I fly over. http://bit.ly/i9R4JG #Chevenga #weblit #psychofantasy #sffFeb 05 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MariaDB Can't Be Sold Like #MySQL : Exclusive Interview http://ur1.ca/349jv #gpl #databaseFeb 05 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Split-pane feature of #Nautilus http://ur1.ca/349jx long overdue?Feb 05 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FOSDEM - New version of #GNOME 3 live image http://ur1.ca/349k3 #gnu #desktop #linuxFeb 05 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux AppStream Is Not An App Store Rip Off http://ur1.ca/349k9 of course not. If anything, #Apple lifted the idea from #BSD and LinuxFeb 05 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @wicary UBB? Oh, it stands for Unbelievable Business Baloney: @TabathaSouthey on @TonyClement_MP http://tgam.ca/BfXqFeb 05 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frederic Crozat blog: FOSDEM - New version of GNOME 3 live image .::. Size~: 46.58 KBFeb 05 13:56
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Yemen411/status/33877869662965760Feb 05 13:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Yemen411: @schestowitz @glynmoody  not true it is working fine http://www.presidentsaleh.gov.ye/index.php?lng=enFeb 05 13:58
schestowitz"♺ @glynmoody #Anonymous launches Operation Yemen - http://bit.ly/hss0WU "against websites operated by the government of #Yemen""Feb 05 13:58
schestowitzHeheFeb 05 13:58
schestowitzTheir president fledFeb 05 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron echoes Merkel, multiculturism is a failure and calls for stronger British identity. Union Jack tee shirts for everyone then. #bilgeFeb 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What We Use: Whitson Gordon's Favorite Gear and Productivity Tips http://ur1.ca/349ky "I'm using KDE and a few cool plasmoids"Feb 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @carlopiana: Unknown to the masses, there is a Free Software Users Group in the European Parliament! Spread the word http://epfsug.eu/Feb 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: Badge No. 815: RT @orwellsbastard: Sgt. Marc Charlebois. Naming them first step in holding them accountable. #G20Feb 05 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera would everyone report to their local tattoo parlour to have their patriotism markedFeb 05 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb It makes me wonder what the decision process was that led to Cameron making such a statement.Feb 05 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3 approaches completion http://ur1.ca/349lp important releaseFeb 05 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3 approaches completion - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.92 KBFeb 05 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Atalanta buys big chunk of Red Hat http://ur1.ca/349m2 well, #gnu #linux is the present and futureFeb 05 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera Cameron is quite modern, but the party he leads are not. They are still an English first, right wing bunch of arrogant toffsFeb 05 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] HeFeb 05 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] He's back - @RedScareBotFeb 05 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @tpb: How To Stop Domain Names Being Seized By The US Government: http://bit.ly/hVTMbCFeb 05 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@schestowitz: #GNU #Linux AppStream Is Not An App Store Rip Off http://ur1.ca/349k9 If anything, #Apple lifted the idea from #BSD and LinuxFeb 05 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Available: PC-BSD 8.2-RC3 http://ur1.ca/349n2 #kde #desktop #pcbsd #bsdFeb 05 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #MariaDB Can't Be Sold Like #MySQL : Exclusive Interview http://ur1.ca/349jv #gpl #databaseFeb 05 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: Automatic synchronisation of Debian's website mirrors have now also been disabled in preparation of... a special suprise :)Feb 05 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCALE 9X across the snowy horizon http://ur1.ca/349nd more details in http://ur1.ca/349nm http://ur1.ca/3402x #linux #californiaFeb 05 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb You must remember that Cameron's first jobs were public relations and then corporate communication (TV)he is a pro propagandistFeb 05 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Perhaps propagandist is not the best description. Snake oil salesman would be better.Feb 05 14:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/63769490Feb 05 14:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-11 14:05:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Talk about an article completely full of crap. O_oFeb 05 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera I know, he's also stinking rich because of his wife's inheritance, he is at least part modern compared to his partyFeb 05 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @arnebab “Why Political Liberty Depends on Software Freedom More Than Ever”, Eben Moglen !ogg #stream 01: is.gd/6LaNbJ 02: is.gd/t1oJ ...Feb 05 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb He has professionally re made his image. Content still the same. Agreed about make up of some in his party.Feb 05 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thommcn1 18 Buildings Worthy of '70's Sci-Fi http://t.co/Ch0ZFf8 via @gizmodoFeb 05 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The gang is complete AFAICS. Met @methoddan, @sandersch, @macno, @fabsh, @greve, @zoobab etc. #FOSDEM beats DLD, @afromusing ;-)Feb 05 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@Yemen411 I appreciate the update. Campaign for real democracy in #Yemen /cc @glynmoodyFeb 05 14:26
twitterOK, what's this FUD about suspend working on a lid close?  Having to configure things to make that work has been a pain to me for the last decade.  I don't mind pushing function buttons to make it work but lid closing and opening is so much easier.Feb 05 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Julian #Assange speech at !WikiLeaks Public Meeting in Melbourne http://ur1.ca/349qy !playogg : http://ur1.ca/349r5Feb 05 14:29
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twitterDialogs to make that work have gotten much better in the last six years or so.  Klaptop, Kpowermanager, Kpowersave and the thing in KDE4 work great.Feb 05 14:29
schestowitzyeah, smelled like exaggeration to meFeb 05 14:29
twitterEven ACPI is working nicely now.Feb 05 14:30
schestowitzSelf-criticism to the extremeFeb 05 14:30
schestowitzBill is now campaigning for patentsFeb 05 14:30
twitterand this is in stark contrast to the windows world where power management has always been crap.Feb 05 14:30
schestowitzI have a post to do about it todayFeb 05 14:30
schestowitz"maybe we should patent something related to it [ACPI]"Feb 05 14:30
schestowitzJamie Love wrote: "Next week the #Gates Foundation will hire a top IPR lobbyist from Microsoft, to work for the Foundation."Feb 05 14:31
twitterACPI is still poison, but the basics seem to be mastered.Feb 05 14:31
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/183403Feb 05 14:32
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twitterthat's my ACPI write up.  It includes Bill's letter, Linus' opinion and some other goodies.Feb 05 14:33
twitterbblFeb 05 14:33
schestowitztaFeb 05 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] US Department of Justice Investigating Novell/CPTN Deal Further !fsf !osi !fs http://tinyurl.com/4h77r82Feb 05 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Department of Justice Investigating Novell/CPTN Deal Further — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.13 KBFeb 05 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @freedentity: #l33tm33t from 20:30 at Au Bon Vieux Temps, 12, Rue Marché aux Herbes, 1000 Brussels - #UTNR ID cards at 15 EUR. Join!Feb 05 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @aurele Spying On Surfing: Why We Need a "Do Not Track" List !FS !ACLU !LO :: http://www.aclu.org/blog/project/technology-and-libertyFeb 05 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT: @JPBarlow "We have reached a point in our history where lies are protected speech and the truth is criminal." !wlFeb 05 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] After Eben Moglens talk on the need 2 decentralise, join us at #l33tm33t to *work* on it. #Unhosted #webid #freedentity #freedomboxFeb 05 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Millions in overseas aid to Africa was embezzled http://is.gd/dZXW9W !wlFeb 05 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @evenorbert: id software is 20 years old. Can you believe it?! Great company, great games. http://ur1.ca/349svFeb 05 14:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks cables: millions in overseas aid to Africa was embezzled - Telegraph .::. Size~: 67.22 KBFeb 05 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @evenorbert: id software is 20 years old. Can you believe it?! Great company, great games. http://ur1.ca/349svFeb 05 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Everything is a Remix Part 2 http://vimeo.com/19447662 good BS artists pretend to have not been influenced by anythingFeb 05 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." --Steve Jobs, AppleFeb 05 14:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Everything is a Remix Part 2 on Vimeo .::. Size~: 145.9 KBFeb 05 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Interesting, they never mention what kind of os or security measure we in place !unc http://tinyurl.com/6z5uqm5Feb 05 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: Thailand's royal pet 'Foo Foo' is Air Chief Marshal http://is.gd/Nq8M3V !wlFeb 05 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Interesting, they don't say what OS they used or what security they tried to implement !unc http://tinyurl.com/6z5uqm5Feb 05 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Regex: Encompassing your needs with parentheses (blog): http://www.joabj.com/blog/?p=902Feb 05 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #twatter thinks I should follow Jeremy Piven and Kevin Spacey #artificial_stupidityFeb 05 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #FOSDEM caused some issues with the !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting. http://is.gd/jdoxLL some topics will be dealt with on list or are postponedFeb 05 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." --Steve Jobs, Apple !qFeb 05 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer After Eben Moglens talk on the need 2 decentralise, join us at #l33tm33t to *work* on it. #Unhosted #webid #freedentity # ...Feb 05 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/2/2011: GNOME 3.0 and Android 3.0 Honeycomb Are Nearly Here http://ur1.ca/349zj !techrightsFeb 05 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 5/2/2011: GNOME 3.0 and Android 3.0 Honeycomb Are Nearly Here http://ur1.ca/349zjFeb 05 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fantastic trick by James Galea! http://biggeekdaddy.com/humorpages/Humor/BestCardTrick.html #fbFeb 05 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hackers Penetrate Nasdaq's Computers (WSJ): http://on.wsj.com/eQold8Feb 05 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks releases over 800 secret cables today http://alturl.com/vnffx !wlFeb 05 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Are we witnessing the death spiral of the Hollywood blockbuster? (IO9): http://on.io9.com/gK4bQQFeb 05 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Hmmm. Air Canada issued 2 boarding passes for my seat. Confusion ensues. The pilot seems to have his act together thoughFeb 05 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK dismissive of 'numbskull' Pakistani leader Zardari http://apne.ws/eDvBKO !wlFeb 05 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: MT @karimmarold Protesters charging phones: http://yfrog.com/h4qeebnj #tahreer #jan25 #egypt (via @carmelva)Feb 05 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @mgifford: Congrats @russellmcormond for being discussed on @CBCtheHouse this morning. Good question!Feb 05 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @simonm223: RT @ThePinebox: What's hapnin in #Egypt is so not an Islamist uprising it begs question y West media & gov keep brngng it up.Feb 05 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: The end of the 'Papa' state in Cuba? http://alturl.com/7vmms !wlFeb 05 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @wikileaks Cuban Economy? Thought that was Egyptian economy. 2+2=3 after Mubarak gets his cut. #Jan25Feb 05 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'Cuban economy: where two plus two equals three' http://alturl.com/3hj88 !wlFeb 05 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'How might Cuba enter another "Special Period"' http://alturl.com/yb3rx !wlFeb 05 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This coming week I'll start coding 3-D face/PCA stuff, having previously worked with 3-D faces, brains, and just 2-D images (not surface)Feb 05 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'Bagdad Zoo: respite from the urban jungle' http://alturl.com/tzpmk !wlFeb 05 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'Talk of Ousting Brown Reaching Fever Pitch' http://alturl.com/h2vkj !wlFeb 05 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'UK considering engagement with Hizballah' http://alturl.com/ck99y !wlFeb 05 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] Browsing today's 800 new cables > http://goo.gl/U8VvR !WikiLeaksFeb 05 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'UK confused by US policy on Somalia' http://alturl.com/ycjn5 !wlFeb 05 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] 0.015% of !WikiLeaks cables released. 247,484 to go.Feb 05 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just downloading the !killzone3 open beta from !psn ...!ps3Feb 05 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'UK-Russian Relations: Hard Headed Engagement' http://alturl.com/yu6ia !wlFeb 05 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] Ron Paul adds !WikiLeak-ed Gulf War1 crimes to the Congressional Record > http://goo.gl/jgWwoFeb 05 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: UK FCO Deputy Head Chris Holtby is US informant http://alturl.com/c5x73 !wlFeb 05 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: UK Iran Sanctions Roundup http://alturl.com/67vut !wlFeb 05 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Patent Reform Likely to Go Ahead and EU Patent Might be Days Away http://ur1.ca/34ady #swpats #patent #uspto #epoFeb 05 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] US Patent Reform Likely to Go Ahead and EU Patent Might be Days Away http://ur1.ca/34ady #eupatent #eu #fta #reform #microsoftFeb 05 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: BBC operations in Iran http://alturl.com/r5n3k !wlFeb 05 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @debian Did you know? Debian's Sysadmin team takes care of 140 servers (including 24 virtual ones). The core of the team are only fou ...Feb 05 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rahulsundaram It appears that if some technology allows touch over Internet, many people will gladly forego real relationships and ...Feb 05 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: UK shares backstory on sailors, diplomats detained by Iran http://alturl.com/7xbuw !wlFeb 05 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: 'Browns continues to push hard for a Tobin tax' http://alturl.com/z3xz4 !wlFeb 05 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: UK won't egage with Hamas, will with Hizballah http://alturl.com/iv6mk !wlFeb 05 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mubarak & son have resigned http://alturl.com/qyhqg !wlFeb 05 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back at #FOSDEM.Feb 05 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mubarak resigns as head of Egyptian ruling party - but continues as President for the moment. !wlFeb 05 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #elementary #Wingpanel and #Plank dock (#Docky rewritten in #Vala) in action (screenshot): http://goo.gl/hhKgD !ubuntuFeb 05 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Install #Plank dock (#Docky rewritten in Vala) on !Ubuntu from Rico Tzschichholz's !PPA: http://goo.gl/wWLCi (WARNING! unstable software!)Feb 05 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @xtl The !Debian organization really is a rather impressive sight. I don't think many people really appreciate what goes into their o ...Feb 05 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @stuartotterson COME NEWCASTLE! Bring on an upset!!! !footballFeb 05 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Are These Rumors, Or Are They Malicious Attacks? http://bit.ly/eEE4KA #crtc #cdnpoli #ubb #canadaFeb 05 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Maybe Jobs should have said "We've always been shameless." #sarcasm #appleFeb 05 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @mgeist: RT @wicary UBB? Oh, it stands for Unbelievable Business Baloney: @TabathaSouthey's take on UBB. http://tgam.ca/BfXqFeb 05 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Bill Gates Promotes Patent Monopolies http://ur1.ca/34apo #patents #uspto #monsanto #monopoly #lobbying #gatesfoundationFeb 05 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Promotes Patent Monopolies http://ur1.ca/34apo #swpats #uspto #monsanto #gmo #monopoly #lobby #billgatesFeb 05 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Slides for my #FOSDEM talk today on "Power, Software, Freedom" http://ur1.ca/34aot Thx everyone for the great discussion! !fsfeFeb 05 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Bill Gates Promotes Patent Monopolies http://ur1.ca/34apo #swpats #uspto #monsanto #gmo #monopoly #lobby #billgatesFeb 05 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Software Foundation’s Statement on Microsoft/Novell/CPTN Patent Attack Against Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/34atp #FSF #NovellFeb 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Free Software Foundation’s Statement on #Microsoft / #Novell / #CPTN Patent Attack Against Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/34atp #swpatsFeb 05 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ffii @zoobab will FFII please issue a statement regarding #CPTN (like the FSF did... http://ur1.ca/34atp )? #swpatsFeb 05 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Mubarak & son have resigned http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/04/live-blog-feb-5-egypt-protests http://bit.ly/fCDawNFeb 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Mubarak resigns as head of Egyptian ruling party - but continues as President for the moment. http://bit.ly/fI71M2Feb 05 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Big Cable fed up with endless P2P porn subpoenas (Ars): http://bit.ly/i3gmv4Feb 05 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Influence in #LibreOffice Still an Apparent Problem http://ur1.ca/34b2i #tdf #TheDocumentFoundation #odf #ooxmlFeb 05 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Novell Influence in #LibreOffice Still an Apparent Problem http://ur1.ca/34b2i #tdf #opendocument #openxml #meeksFeb 05 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RD arnebab “Why Political Liberty Depends on Software Freedom More Than Ever”, Eben Moglen #stream 01: is.gd/6LaNbJ 02: is.gd/t1oJD8 !fsFeb 05 18:02
schestowitz_Goblin: recording today?Feb 05 18:13
_GoblinI would like to do Sunday...only because Ive a little problem at the moment....its called KZ3..Feb 05 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wakeup Call for the British Government Regarding Threats of Proprietary Software http://ur1.ca/34b7o #uk #securityFeb 05 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Wakeup Call for the British Government Regarding Threats of Proprietary Software http://ur1.ca/34b7o #microsoft #novell #windowsFeb 05 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Yemen President Handpicked Winning Contractor http://alturl.com/89niv !wlFeb 05 18:16
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jjabrahamhe, just saw this on planet gnome: http://abock.org/2011/02/04/changing-rolesFeb 05 18:19
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jjabrahambanshee guy is leaving novellFeb 05 18:19
schestowitz\0/Feb 05 18:19
schestowitz_Goblin: npFeb 05 18:20
jjabrahamtime to break out the fizzy?Feb 05 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Tropicana juice with "no artificial sweeteners" is sweetened with stevia (hidden in ingredients). #bsFeb 05 18:21
jjabrahammight be good ammunition to convince ubuntu to stop shipping itFeb 05 18:21
schestowitzNovell is collapsingFeb 05 18:22
schestowitzSo maybe MarkS SteveofLinux will need to hire more devs to maintain mono bloatFeb 05 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Jordanian budget spent on military "patronage system" http://alturl.com/c4nin !wlFeb 05 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @mcepl: Lennart: ... our focus with #systemd is not on the speed, but on doing things in the correct way. Great!Feb 05 18:24
jjabrahamwho is MarkS SteveofLinux?Feb 05 18:24
jjabrahamschestowitz ^^??Feb 05 18:26
schestowitzMark ShuttleworthFeb 05 18:27
jjabrahamohFeb 05 18:27
schestowitzThe Hashtag is #SteveofLinuxFeb 05 18:28
jjabrahamhashtag?Feb 05 18:28
schestowitzIn identicaFeb 05 18:28
jjabrahamohFeb 05 18:28
jjabrahamthanksFeb 05 18:28
jjabrahamI'm not on identica so don't know some of this terminology ;)Feb 05 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aurele/@aurele] Share with discretion :: http://joelightning.com/share_with_discretion !lo !fs !wlFeb 05 18:34
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twitterdid you see the last Windows government security problem link I put here ?  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/04/chinese-super-spies-foreign-office-computersFeb 05 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Chinese cyber-spies penetrate Foreign Office computers | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 134.11 KBFeb 05 18:34
twitterIt's nothing really new.  I think I got it from Daily Rotten.Feb 05 18:35
twitterand it's more of the same.Feb 05 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks, Revolution, and the Lost Cojones of American Journalism http://is.gd/CaNPL3 !wlFeb 05 18:36
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twitterit's sort of a round up of lapses, including a Zeus attack on UK Foreign Office computers last December.Feb 05 18:38
twitterSadly, the author does not call out Windows.Feb 05 18:39
schestowitzI wrote about it moments agoFeb 05 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Disruptors Versus Linux Smartphones Domination http://ur1.ca/34beb #smartphone #linux #meego #webos #hp #android #wp7 #hypephoneFeb 05 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Al Arabiya television retracts its earlier report that Hosni Mubarak resigned as head of Egypt's ruling party. !wlFeb 05 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Disruptors Versus Linux Smartphones Domination http://ur1.ca/34beb #hp #linux #nokia #elop #android #swpats #sco #unixFeb 05 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Al Arabiya television retracts its earlier report that Hosni Mubarak resigned as head of Egypt's ruling party. !wlFeb 05 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Green Day !lastfmFeb 05 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] John Pilger: "Los periodistas deben apoyar el periodismo libre de WikiLeaks" http://kcy.me/1vi0 !wlFeb 05 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Banshee Developer Quits #Novell http://ur1.ca/34bhs #ubuntu #linux #monoFeb 05 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Banshee Developer Quits Novell http://ur1.ca/34bhs #swpats #canonical #trojan #dotnet #microsoft #attachmsftFeb 05 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Sad. Today while I returned home passing through Monsanto, I saw a ran over squirrel half dead (still shaking) on the road.Feb 05 18:59
DaemonFCI Hate The Cashew works with KDE 4.6 now :)Feb 05 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gitmo detainee, 48, dies after 8 years in a cage with no charges http://is.gd/ND6qYQ !wlFeb 05 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Watching Anderson Cooper's reports out of Egypt. The attacks on the demonstrators and journalists are shocking.Feb 05 19:04
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lightpriesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SenHQos3g0s <- lol! have you seen this? :)Feb 05 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] I predict that in the US, that more people play games like Settlers of Catan on Super Bowl Sunday than any other day of the year.Feb 05 19:07
*schestowitz looksFeb 05 19:07
schestowitzI'll repost itFeb 05 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ~R @schestowitz @qu1j0t3: Watching Anderson Cooper's reports out of #Egypt. The attacks on the demonstrators and journalists are shocking.Feb 05 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Change wqe can believe in" [IMG]Feb 05 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Change we can believe in" [IMG] http://www.reddit.com/tb/fftutFeb 05 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I love the biology department. via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.63 KBFeb 05 19:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mqudsi/status/33965519761702912Feb 05 19:12
TechrightsBot-tr@mqudsi: @schestowitz Hey, how are you doing? Been a long time since we conversed! -"Computer Guru"Feb 05 19:12
schestowitzNot been in touch with his since 2005.... https://identi.ca/notice/63784714Feb 05 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-11 19:13:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @mqudsi wish I had found you earlier, mate. Now I can follow you.Feb 05 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aztlek/@aztlek] John Pilger: "Los periodistas deben apoyar el periodismo libre de !WikiLeaks" http://kcy.me/1vi0Feb 05 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Yet Another VIA Linux Driver Has Arrived: VIA's small Linux development community is badly fragmented; there is ... http://bit.ly/gLESMRFeb 05 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Dan Bull Complains About #Microsoft in New Clip http://ur1.ca/34boaFeb 05 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dan Bull Complains About #Microsoft in New Clip http://ur1.ca/34boa Video rant from Dan BullFeb 05 19:24
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*DaemonFC had to wrestle around with I Hate The Cashew, but it finally worked :PFeb 05 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] At least the unbeaten bollocks is over. !mufc !football lets go and win the league now.Feb 05 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @JPBarlow: Wikileaks is the first battleground of the Great Infowar. The Arab Awakening is the second. There will be more. !wlFeb 05 19:26
DaemonFCfor some reason, Plasma doesn't want to unload the older version, and you can't have two copies running, and since it's invisible, you can't shut down the first copyFeb 05 19:27
DaemonFCso the only answer I figured out was to delete the entire activity and start a new one :/Feb 05 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] Correct link: !WikiLeaks Cables Reveal U.S. Sought to Retaliate Against Europe over Monsanto GM Crops http://pnt.me/CoLVqh /cc @spiresaysFeb 05 19:28
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DaemonFCit seems like someone promoted that broken build of Wine to updatesFeb 05 19:29
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: RT @JPBarlow: Wikileaks is the first battleground of the Great Infowar. The Arab Awakening is the sec... http://bit.ly/fC8VbxFeb 05 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: US Rep Ron Paul tables secret Iraq cable to Congress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfF7FUlhg4o http://bit.ly/fIALXBFeb 05 19:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Is Ron Paul a TERROR~1?Feb 05 19:29
DaemonFCI had him pegged for an eccentric old manFeb 05 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Last minute winner for !spurs against Bolton. Holding on to 5th place.Feb 05 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Rep Ron Paul tables secret Iraq cable to Congress http://alturl.com/eg2ds !wlFeb 05 19:31
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DaemonFCif people like Ron Paul were running the world, we'd still be living in log cabins, hunting for food, shitting in outhouses, and wiping with pine conesFeb 05 19:31
DaemonFCI really don't see the appeal in what he offers, which is to roll our social evolution back by decadesFeb 05 19:31
DaemonFCat least most of the Republican party is just evil businessmen who use Jesus as a front to get elected so they can enrich their criminal croniesFeb 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Classic Quotes from our #CRTC Chair http://ur1.ca/34bq1 http://ur1.ca/34bq3 #ubb #canada #beaurocrat #failFeb 05 19:32
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DaemonFCthis guy I think, really believes some of what he saysFeb 05 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality @vanden And raisins in bread, for that matter.Feb 05 19:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd also like to know how they conjure up the 3% tax hike hurting small businesses, you'd think they'd welcome being able to offload their employees on some government nightmare and save the good stuff for themselvesFeb 05 19:34
DaemonFC*healthcare that isFeb 05 19:34
DaemonFCI'll tell you what kind of shit people who will be on Medicaid get, because one of my exes was on Medicaid for about a yearFeb 05 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 US Rep Ron Paul tables secret Iraq cable to Congress http://alturl.com/eg2ds !wlFeb 05 19:36
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DaemonFChe was getting a dental cleaning at a dental hygienist school right before he got approved for Medicaid, they found one (1) cavity and this was confirmed via x-rayFeb 05 19:36
DaemonFCafter he got Medicaid, sure they paid for a dentist, who proceeded not only to drill and fill the affected tooth, but 3 healthy teeth as well so he could fraudulantly bill the governmentFeb 05 19:37
DaemonFCwho paid it, btwFeb 05 19:37
DaemonFCpeople on Medicaid also can't get composite dental fillings because they're about $10 more expensive than the silver amalgam ones that contain mercuryFeb 05 19:37
DaemonFCso he's got 3 teeth drilled which were fine and four fillings containing mercuryFeb 05 19:38
DaemonFCcourtesy of government healthcare who pays whatever the doctor sends them as long as the billing code is correctFeb 05 19:38
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 19:38
DaemonFCMedicare and Medicaid get defrauded like this all the time and I have my own suspicions why it goes unpunishedFeb 05 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Foo Fighters - Greatest HitsFeb 05 19:39
DaemonFCit's because the doctor can send them a bill containing 90% legitimate operations and pad his take with 10% services he never renderedFeb 05 19:39
DaemonFCyou only get raided if all you do is defraud them I guessFeb 05 19:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: Now this system they enacted where you're forced to buy from a private company that gets reimbursed by the government is worse, I thinkFeb 05 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Rhythmbox #Pandora Plugin Now Available In The @WebUpd8 #PPA, No Longer Requires Pithos ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog http://ow.ly/3QWISFeb 05 19:41
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DaemonFCremember all thsoe cost-plus contracts they handed out in IraqFeb 05 19:41
DaemonFCwhere the companies for example, never changed the oil in their trucks because the government would buy them a new truck with the engine was destroyedFeb 05 19:41
DaemonFCthey've done that for healthcare nowFeb 05 19:41
DaemonFCI think we should repeal this and outsource the whole damned mess to Canada or the UK or somewhere where they've gotten it mostly rightFeb 05 19:42
DaemonFCalthough schestowitz, I still think it's hysterical that your system covers homeopathic treatments because the Queen seems to like themFeb 05 19:43
DaemonFCthe closest we came to a healthcare bill that I could get behind was that Medicare For Everyone thing that never came close to passing, but Medicare is its own messFeb 05 19:45
DaemonFCwhat we got has all the inefficiencies of the government and all the greed of a for-profit business, and we're going to see fraud unlike anything we've had beforeFeb 05 19:45
DaemonFCit's a healthcare Marriage From Hell, like someone tried answering the question of how we could possibly do any worse than we have nowFeb 05 19:46
MinceR204308 < DaemonFC> although schestowitz, I still think it's hysterical that your system covers homeopathic treatments because the Queen seems to like themFeb 05 19:56
MinceRwell, that's what absolutists systems get youFeb 05 19:56
MinceRs/sts/st/Feb 05 19:56
DaemonFCMinceR: HelluuuuuuuFeb 05 19:56
DaemonFCWould you care for a spot of tea?Feb 05 19:57
DaemonFCcrumpet? :)Feb 05 19:57
MinceRactually i wouldFeb 05 19:57
MinceRtea, that isFeb 05 19:57
MinceRas long as it isn't contaminated with milkFeb 05 19:57
MinceRnot sure about crumpetsFeb 05 19:57
DaemonFCI'm more of a coffee and doughnut person myselfFeb 05 19:58
DaemonFCI'd never fit in in schestowitzland :(Feb 05 19:58
MinceRi like those tooFeb 05 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Omg! I just thought about how many client's servers with !debian lenny we are going to have to start dist-upgrading next week *shudder*Feb 05 19:59
DaemonFChmmm, I notice it's been 4 years now and KDE 4 still won't display plasmoids on your desktop if you have your desktop set to folder view your desktopFeb 05 20:00
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 20:00
DaemonFCbut it still displays the cashew that offers to add plasmoids and it can't be gotten rid of because I Hate The Cashew is a plasmoid that has to run on, your desktop :DFeb 05 20:01
DaemonFCdoh!Feb 05 20:02
MinceRi don't like having stuff on the desktop anywayFeb 05 20:02
MinceRit's the one component of the GUI that was designed to be covered by stuff, so what do they use it for? to put important stuff on.Feb 05 20:02
MinceRsounds pretty stupid to meFeb 05 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bush Swiss visit off after fears of torture case http://alturl.com/zat92 !wlFeb 05 20:02
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DaemonFCwhy are they trying to make Wine compile under clang?Feb 05 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Microsoft #patent reveals fast-boot dual-boot hybrid – istartedsomething #swpats http://ping.fm/vMoaoFeb 05 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How Google Removed The Muzzle On Twitter In Egypt ≈ Packet Storm http://ping.fm/LxOlxFeb 05 20:06
DaemonFCso the copy protection support they have breaks and everything runs slower? :)Feb 05 20:06
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DaemonFCCanonical won't remove Banshee, they'll probably start maintaining itFeb 05 20:08
gnufreexThey hired Banshee devs?Feb 05 20:09
DaemonFCno, but they have their own Mono-related projectsFeb 05 20:10
gnufreexBanshee crew are all rabid Microsoft zealots. More than Mono crew.Feb 05 20:10
DaemonFCso someone there could probably maintain BansheeFeb 05 20:10
DaemonFCit's pretty much feature complete already anywayFeb 05 20:10
MinceRas in, it depends on every part of mono?Feb 05 20:11
DaemonFCit does actuallyFeb 05 20:12
gnufreexYeah, especialy non-ECMA onesFeb 05 20:12
MinceR:>Feb 05 20:12
DaemonFCin some cases it depends on them gratuitously just to bring them inFeb 05 20:12
Diablo-D3yeah butFeb 05 20:12
Diablo-D3none of thsoe banshee faggots can codeFeb 05 20:12
Diablo-D3so whats the problemFeb 05 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] We'll never die, we'll never die, We'll never die, we'll never die, We'll keep the Red flag flying high, Cos Man !United will never die. RIPFeb 05 20:12
gnufreexBanshee folks can't code but they can scream.Feb 05 20:13
gnufreexThey pushed Banshee by FUDing RytmboxFeb 05 20:14
gnufreexThey said it is dying.Feb 05 20:14
schestowitzI'm being stalked by some .NET developerFeb 05 20:14
schestowitz"Verofakto" or somethingFeb 05 20:14
gnufreexYou just now noticed that?Feb 05 20:14
schestowitzThat troll started commenting in TR againFeb 05 20:14
schestowitzUsually he's just harassing from the outside with like-minded bulliesFeb 05 20:17
gnufreexHe has a site to smear all IRC commenters.Feb 05 20:17
gnufreexSick person.Feb 05 20:17
schestowitzThe Onion (Florian) is also a .NET 'dev'Feb 05 20:17
gnufreexSame as WrongieFeb 05 20:17
gnufreex*WrongyFeb 05 20:17
*schestowitz reads http://www.csse.uwa.edu.au/~ajmal/papers/ijcv08_faisal_auth_version.pdfFeb 05 20:17
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schestowitzI have 50 hours to reproduce their workFeb 05 20:17
gnufreexWhat's that?Feb 05 20:17
schestowitzCoding aside, just reading what they did takes agesFeb 05 20:17
gnufreexReally.... I was thinking..Feb 05 20:20
gnufreexIf Microsoft have it so easy.. they will try to poison more FOSS apps.Feb 05 20:20
gnufreexThey pushed HyperV drivers in Linux.Feb 05 20:21
gnufreexThey pushed Mono to UbuntuFeb 05 20:21
gnufreexThey pushed BansheeFeb 05 20:21
gnufreexThey pushed OOXML in LibreOffice (and preactically removed unencumbered OpenOffice; no choice)Feb 05 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] We lost a game (which incidentally happens each season, just so you know) and the ABUs are out in droves wetting themselves. Sigh! !mufcFeb 05 20:22
gnufreexSo it seems that they just need to claim it is new and shnny, and people will take their code.Feb 05 20:22
gnufreexIt doesn't bode well.Feb 05 20:22
gnufreexWho knows how many MS-patented stuff novell sliped to projectsFeb 05 20:23
gnufreexAnd it is not about patents.Feb 05 20:24
DaemonFCahemFeb 05 20:24
DaemonFC[15:11] <Diablo-D3> none of thsoe banshee faggots can codeFeb 05 20:24
gnufreexIt is about LibreOffice and Mono perpetuating Microsoft dominantceFeb 05 20:24
DaemonFCbut the banshee niggers and kikes can?Feb 05 20:24
gnufreexDe facto standards and suchFeb 05 20:24
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 20:24
DaemonFCwhy do people need to use epithets to add shock value?Feb 05 20:26
DaemonFCI've never understood it, it's meant to offend people and shut down their ability to process your argument maybe?Feb 05 20:26
DaemonFCgnufreex: A clean room reverse engineering of OOXML for compatibility would probably flyFeb 05 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] 6th Feb 1958. The Flowers of Manchester. RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SMLcO9xnSU !MUFCFeb 05 20:27
gnufreexIt is patentedFeb 05 20:27
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DaemonFCbut that's not what what OOo has gotten from NovellFeb 05 20:27
gnufreexNo matter if it is clean roomFeb 05 20:27
DaemonFCit's code either from Microsoft or built with access to their specsFeb 05 20:28
gnufreexYou can't have compatibilityFeb 05 20:28
gnufreexIt doesn't matterFeb 05 20:28
gnufreexIt is still patentedFeb 05 20:28
DaemonFCWine is legal because it was reverse engineered without access to any of Microsoft's resourcesFeb 05 20:28
DaemonFCOOXML in OOo is probably not because it basically came from MicrosoftFeb 05 20:28
gnufreexThing is that they are notFeb 05 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "SIX Cops Beating The Crap Out Of Underage Teen Caught On Video" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqq2KgBeBvQ&feature=feeduFeb 05 20:29
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gnufreexIf Microosft released those under GPL, they couldn't sueFeb 05 20:29
gnufreexBut they didn'tFeb 05 20:29
gnufreexINStead they got NovellFeb 05 20:29
gnufreexto make it under royaltyFeb 05 20:29
DaemonFCit's a messed up system where I can give you something freely and then claim you stole it and owe me moneyFeb 05 20:29
DaemonFCbut that's where LibreOffice may end upFeb 05 20:30
gnufreexYou can't if you give it to me under GPLFeb 05 20:30
gnufreexYou can if you give it to me under BSD or MITFeb 05 20:30
gnufreexPatent grantFeb 05 20:30
DaemonFCthey didn't, Microsoft likes to use open source licenses without a patent grant and tack on a worthless promise not to sueFeb 05 20:30
DaemonFCthat only covers part of what they handed outFeb 05 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Bush Swiss visit off after fears of torture case http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/bushs-swiss-visit... http://bit.ly/dYJanvFeb 05 20:31
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gnufreexSimilarly, they can't sue for HyperV drivers, because they wrote themFeb 05 20:31
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gnufreexAnd released under GPLFeb 05 20:31
DaemonFCGPLv2 has a patent grant clause I thinkFeb 05 20:31
DaemonFCit wouldn't have ended up in the kernel unless they had the right to add it thereFeb 05 20:31
gnufreexThat is what I saidFeb 05 20:32
gnufreexThey CAN'T sue for HyperV drivers.Feb 05 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Going up to Camp Verde tonight. That's camp green for those of you who don't know the language.Feb 05 20:32
gnufreexBut still, GNU/Linux didn't need those HyperV drivers, Microsoft needed them.Feb 05 20:33
gnufreexSo they could reject it, make Microsoft distribute them.Feb 05 20:33
DaemonFCyeahFeb 05 20:33
gnufreexThey make it hard for usFeb 05 20:33
gnufreexSo no need to make it easy for them.Feb 05 20:33
DaemonFCthe question is will rejecting it make Linux more appealing to the outfits that want to use it in that way?Feb 05 20:33
gnufreexHyperV had 0 market shareFeb 05 20:34
gnufreexSo this would hamper adoption of HyperVFeb 05 20:34
DaemonFCif someone wants to use Linux on Hyper-V, then more power to themFeb 05 20:34
DaemonFCkicking it out of mainline just gives distros like SLE more advantageFeb 05 20:34
gnufreexNobody wanted. HyperV still has 5 % or so marketshareFeb 05 20:34
DaemonFCyou know those distros will pick it up and use itFeb 05 20:34
gnufreexYeah... that is correctFeb 05 20:35
gnufreexSLES would use it.Feb 05 20:35
gnufreexSo it comes down to NOvell againFeb 05 20:35
DaemonFCso what good does it do to hand Novell the customers that wanted it for that?Feb 05 20:35
DaemonFCthey might use Debian now instead of paying NovellFeb 05 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At #l33tm33t. Hanging out with @rejon and @macno at the bar.Feb 05 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] normally i don't like LOLcats but... http://www.youtube.com/user/devernaclepoot#p/a/u/0/lw0icQIXVOE (via @carwinb)Feb 05 20:36
DaemonFCNovell can't say it's another feature you get that RHEL doesn't haveFeb 05 20:36
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gnufreexYou are right about that.Feb 05 20:36
DaemonFChaving it out there is bad, but if it's going to end up out there, everyone should be able to have it on the same termsFeb 05 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] if cats could speak, their spelling & grammars would be better than mineFeb 05 20:37
DaemonFCI think what mainlining it did was keep Novell from holding it up there and going "Meh, Meeeeeeeh!!! Pay us more for this!"Feb 05 20:37
gnufreexYes, that is correct, but that was my point.Feb 05 20:38
gnufreexIf Microsoft didn't have insider like Novell, they couldn't have itFeb 05 20:39
DaemonFCyes, Novell is being used by Microsoft to promote Microsoft stuff as fauxpen source that everyone else now needs to compete with NovellFeb 05 20:39
gnufreexExactlyFeb 05 20:40
DaemonFCmore GNOME 3 churnFeb 05 20:42
DaemonFCalmost anyone but proprietary nvidia users get kicked back to GNOME 2's desktopFeb 05 20:43
DaemonFCsome revolutionFeb 05 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @laurelrusswurm they can, it's on the internets, it must be true #lolcatsFeb 05 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Argh argh argh ##l33tm33t going on and I'm not there :(Feb 05 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hanging out with @scogna listening to Bad NewsFeb 05 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #debian: ♺ @debian: Did you know? You can just raw copy (with dd) (most) #Squeeze images to an usb-stick, and start installation from there.Feb 05 20:46
MinceRand laptop users are pretty much forced to suspend if they close the lidFeb 05 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: #wikileaks: Bush Swiss visit off after fears of torture case http://ur1.ca/34c9a http://ur1.ca/34c9bFeb 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !debian mips done and syncing, building mipsel. #squeezeFeb 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !debian ia64 images syncing, building mips ... ain't it just great how many archs we have? ;) #squeezeFeb 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @gouki: RT @debian Every image is tested as soon as it is finished building. So far all's good and we're well underway!Feb 05 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: Remember the surprise mentioned earlier? It effects not only Debian website, but also the wiki, the list archive, planet...Feb 05 20:47
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DaemonFChmmm, there's now an ALSA driver for the X-FiFeb 05 20:48
DaemonFCI was wondering if that would happen before or after Duke Nukem Forever :DFeb 05 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@wikileaks: wikileaks: US Rep Ron Paul tables secret Iraq cable to Congress http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfF7FUlhg4o http://bit.ly/fIALXBFeb 05 20:49
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DaemonFCI've finally stopped trying to pick between Firefox and Chrome as they're all doing something wrongFeb 05 20:50
DaemonFCKonqueror 4.6 is actually pretty good, I think I'll just use that nowFeb 05 20:50
DaemonFCthe last time I bothered with Konqueror much it gave me a lot of unusable sites so I gave up and never seriously used it againFeb 05 20:51
DaemonFC4.5 almost worked ok except it liked to load blank boxes instead of flashFeb 05 20:51
DaemonFCI wonder what happens to OpenSuse if the DOJ actually blocks this dealFeb 05 20:53
DaemonFCNovell is coming apart at the seams and firing almost everyone that was doing good work on SuseFeb 05 20:54
DaemonFCWill the last Novell employee to leave please turn off the lights? :PFeb 05 20:54
DaemonFCMinceR: KDE looks rather good on a 60 inch 1080p displayFeb 05 20:57
DaemonFCI was playing around with it yesterday hooked up to a TV set through HDMIFeb 05 20:57
DaemonFCI managed to load Halo 2 for Vista into Wine and play it on that giant TV screen tooFeb 05 20:58
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 206 dents!Feb 05 20:59
*DaemonFC thinks this Chrome App Store reeksFeb 05 21:00
DaemonFCthe only thing I saw that even interested me was Last.FM, and I can play that in Amarok without it having access to all the data in my web browser :)Feb 05 21:00
DaemonFCdoes it make anyone else nervous that every time you install a browser extension for Firefox or Chrome it can do just about anything it wants?Feb 05 21:02
DaemonFCI don't feel like doing my online banking in a web browser full of extensions from 50 different random peopleFeb 05 21:02
MinceRdoes installing applications make you nervous?Feb 05 21:04
MinceRi did think of using a separate browser and/or profile for banking, thoughFeb 05 21:05
MinceRif only to enable all those security warning popupsFeb 05 21:05
MinceR(leaving encrypted site, unencrypted elements on encrypted page, etc.)Feb 05 21:05
MinceRalso for nosy scripts trying to access another tabFeb 05 21:05
MinceRprobably a different set of trusted root CAs would help tooFeb 05 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !debian we still need to build the images for sparc and our two brand new kfreebsd archs #squeezeFeb 05 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !debian Woa! A full #squeeze media set consists of either 52 CDs or 8 DVDs or 2 Blu-Rays ... (numbers may vary by arch)Feb 05 21:07
DaemonFCMinceR: I don't tend to install things unless I'm pretty sure where they came fromFeb 05 21:07
schestowitz[21:05] <MinceR> also for nosy scripts trying to access another tabFeb 05 21:08
schestowitz:-0Feb 05 21:08
schestowitzIs that possible?!Feb 05 21:08
MinceRnot sureFeb 05 21:08
DaemonFCthat's why I like Linux distros and signed repositoriesFeb 05 21:08
DaemonFCschestowitz: it's possibleFeb 05 21:08
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DaemonFCthings like that get fixed now and then if you look at Firefox's changelogsFeb 05 21:08
schestowitzurl or you're PinnochioFeb 05 21:08
schestowitzFixedFeb 05 21:08
schestowitzSo it's a bugFeb 05 21:08
schestowitzBut not allowed in principleFeb 05 21:09
DaemonFChttp://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox36.html#firefox3.6.13Feb 05 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security Advisories for Firefox 3.6 .::. Size~: 22.82 KBFeb 05 21:09
schestowitzLike cookie sniffing, unless it's Adobe Trash of courseFeb 05 21:09
DaemonFCthat's just between 3.6.12 and 3.6.13Feb 05 21:09
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DaemonFCcarelessness or malicious intentFeb 05 21:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: Do you prefer Negligent Homicide or First Degree Murder?Feb 05 21:10
DaemonFCeither way, some unfortunate person had a bad dayFeb 05 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @johnsu01 err... I was led to believe stevia was natural. is it not?Feb 05 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @pho, preparate para updatear mañana el hilo de Debian en !eol :D mwahahahahaFeb 05 21:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Also, Firefox extensions can do anything to the browser they likeFeb 05 21:11
DaemonFCthat's why it warns you if you don't get them from addons.mozilla.orgFeb 05 21:11
DaemonFCincluding attacking other extensionsFeb 05 21:12
DaemonFCNoscript v. Adblock Plus anyone?Feb 05 21:12
schestowitzIt's like you and your mom !! :-pFeb 05 21:13
DaemonFCthe guy who runs Noscript kept adding all his advertisements to a whitelist every time Firefox openedFeb 05 21:13
DaemonFCeven if they user removed the whitelisting, it was back next timeFeb 05 21:13
DaemonFCat the very least, it was rude and not the kind of behavior you like to see in a guy who maintains a "security" add-onFeb 05 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Super Cool !Android 3.0 Powered Motorola XOOM Video Ad http://goo.gl/q9RKfFeb 05 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] @lxoliva Yeah it is "natural," just misleading. Adding sweetener to juice == artificial, IMO.Feb 05 21:14
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DaemonFCschestowitz: He could have gone a few inches further and started offering to unblock the ads of any site willing to pay him to do itFeb 05 21:16
DaemonFCdidn't have to just be his advertisers, and most users are too dumb to figure out what's happeningFeb 05 21:16
DaemonFCpersonally I think advanced script controls should be a feature in the browser, and they're usually there even if there's no UI control for themFeb 05 21:17
DaemonFCwhen Mozilla put in a pop-up blocker, they didn't put a GUI preference in to toggle it for a while, you has to edit prefs.js by handFeb 05 21:18
DaemonFCthe fact that Firefox leaves them out and gives you no other way to control your privacy settings other than to install an add-on by this creep who was using it to remote control people's browsers, is unnervingFeb 05 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @johnsu01 aha, tricked by the wording. not artificially sweetened != without artificial sweetenersFeb 05 21:19
DaemonFCusers are stupid and features are a disease, it's not just a Crapple thing anymoreFeb 05 21:19
DaemonFCMinceR: Chrome is supposedly so advanced, so why the hell is there no way to block pop-unders?Feb 05 21:21
sebsebsebChrome = Google HypeFeb 05 21:21
sebsebsebmuch better people using that though than IE :)Feb 05 21:21
DaemonFCyou ever wonder why Chrome is like the only browser you can install adblock into and still wonder where all the damned pop-unders are coming from?Feb 05 21:22
MinceRyou expect a browser made by an advertising company to fully support blocking ads? :>Feb 05 21:22
*sebsebseb thinks MinceR may have a pointFeb 05 21:23
sebsebsebalso I didn't know that Chrome didn't have a pop up blocker, or maybe I did just didn't think about itFeb 05 21:23
sebsebsebI mean yeah Chromium doesn't seem to have oneFeb 05 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] listening to #OwnersShare by Nathan LowellFeb 05 21:23
DaemonFCKonqueror has better privacy controls built-in that most other browsers I've seenFeb 05 21:23
DaemonFCand adblock is part of the browserFeb 05 21:23
*sebsebseb will enjoy trying Ubuntu alpha 2 classic mode, whenever I do itFeb 05 21:23
sebsebsebwhy simple :DFeb 05 21:23
sebsebsebit's got the global menu that I don't like for a startFeb 05 21:23
DaemonFCI hate Unity, do not wantFeb 05 21:23
sebsebsebapplications places system is removed for some other sort of menu thingFeb 05 21:23
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 21:23
sebsebsebDaemonFC: classic isn't UnityFeb 05 21:24
sebsebsebthat's Gnome 2 with their patchesFeb 05 21:24
sebsebsebalso I read something on the alpha 2 page, about how non indicators can't be added, so hmm I wonder that means exactly, well i'll find out when trying itFeb 05 21:24
DaemonFCthey're doing a 2d version of Unity in QT so they can punt people who don't want proprietary drivers to thatFeb 05 21:24
sebsebsebi'll virtual machine try it, and I guess boot from a Live CD as well to try classicFeb 05 21:24
DaemonFCgive them a nice second rate experience that at least won't crash their FOSS video driversFeb 05 21:24
sebsebsebas for Unity it seems I probably won't have much luck trying to use that in anyway at all right now, since I got NividaFeb 05 21:24
sebsebseband Nivida don't have a driver yet for later XorgFeb 05 21:24
DaemonFCNvidia's latest beta supports X Server 1.10Feb 05 21:24
DaemonFCATI's Catalyst 11.1 only goes up to 1.9 thoughFeb 05 21:25
sebsebsebalso I don't want to install another pshyicall Ubuntu install again :)Feb 05 21:25
sebsebsebif I can avoide itFeb 05 21:25
DaemonFCand ATI doesn't do public betasFeb 05 21:25
MinceRDaemonFC: what about unity 3d with intel gma?Feb 05 21:25
sebsebsebI mean only virtual amchines from now onFeb 05 21:25
sebsebsebwell ok I may run the 11.04 final  on here for real for exampleFeb 05 21:25
sebsebseb,but I mean development versions at least,  I don't really want to install again as phsyicall installs if I can avoideFeb 05 21:25
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm not about to rip out a nice expensive GPU to find out what some mentally retarded motherboard chipset can do for meFeb 05 21:26
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 21:26
MinceRit's not that retardedFeb 05 21:26
MinceRand not only in motherboardsFeb 05 21:26
MinceRgma hd comes in cpus instead :>Feb 05 21:26
sebsebsebalso some how Unity is meant to be able to be run in Virtualbox 4.0/4.0.2Feb 05 21:26
sebsebsebalso once  something has been accepted upstream, Fedora will have it in their main repos :)Feb 05 21:26
MinceRanyway, it has pretty decent driver support compared to nvidiaFeb 05 21:26
sebsebsebwhich is greatFeb 05 21:26
DaemonFCIntel doesn't even bother supporting the latest DirectX features, you think they care about OpenGL experience on Linux?Feb 05 21:26
sebsebsebFedora providing Unity as an optionFeb 05 21:26
schestowitzhttp://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/02/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-alpha-2.htmlFeb 05 21:26
MinceRit doesn't crash right and leftFeb 05 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' Alpha 2 Released - Overview and Screenshots ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 112.51 KBFeb 05 21:26
MinceRit can suspend reliablyFeb 05 21:27
MinceRKMS worksFeb 05 21:27
DaemonFCthat much can be said for the ati driverFeb 05 21:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: and omgubuntu has one about that, which is ok, but the one on webupd is betterFeb 05 21:27
MinceRthough none of what i said applies to powervr gpusFeb 05 21:27
schestowitzOh.My.Mark.Ubuntu?Feb 05 21:27
DaemonFCI think this fragmented GNOME experience where some people get GNOME Shell and some people get GNOME 2 is bad enough without Canonical doing two versions of Unity written in different toolkitsFeb 05 21:28
MinceRi don't worry about fragmentationFeb 05 21:29
schestowitzGNOptionFeb 05 21:29
sebsebsebSo do any of you guys agree with me, that really the new Ubuntu themes since 10.04, are quite ugly really?Feb 05 21:29
sebsebsebdark and uh, and then grey and uh for the other oneFeb 05 21:29
DaemonFCThey should have called it GNOME 4 since there's at least 4 possible desktops you can end up at depending what hardware, drivers, and distro you haveFeb 05 21:29
schestowitzsebsebseb: better than before IMHOFeb 05 21:29
schestowitzI like darkFeb 05 21:29
schestowitzBut the purple is not right...Feb 05 21:29
MinceRsebsebseb: i like the departure from the brown, but dislike the increasing similarity to macosFeb 05 21:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: I wasn't that keen on the old Linux Mint 9 and such theme, but now that is so much better than Canonical'sFeb 05 21:30
DaemonFCThe Mint Metal theme is niceFeb 05 21:30
DaemonFCit's not a blatant ripoff of OS XFeb 05 21:30
schestowitzMiguel de Microsoft says GNOME 4 should be written in c#Feb 05 21:30
sebsebsebalso I quite like the brown theme, the version of it before 9.10,  however things don't seem quite right when using it in 10.04 and 10.10 and oh I knowFeb 05 21:30
MinceRlolFeb 05 21:30
sebsebsebpartly since the old Ubuntu logo will showFeb 05 21:30
sebsebsebif doing thatFeb 05 21:30
schestowitz[21:30] <DaemonFC> The Mint Metal theme is niceFeb 05 21:30
schestowitzit isFeb 05 21:30
schestowitzI tried it last week on TuesdayFeb 05 21:31
schestowitzImpressive!Feb 05 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian supporters, prepare for Squeeze Release Party http://ur1.ca/34cjo #gnu #linuxFeb 05 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Squeeze release sounds like bowel movement instructions ;PFeb 05 21:31
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MinceRany screenshots of Mint Metal?Feb 05 21:31
schestowitzIs it just Mint 10?Feb 05 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah the Mint 10 theme is alright, but now I prefer MInt 9Feb 05 21:31
sebsebseboh how things changeFeb 05 21:31
sebsebsebI used to find Mint to dark and greenFeb 05 21:31
schestowitzMinceR: Mint Death Metal!Feb 05 21:31
DaemonFCyou can install it on Ubuntu but it takes more work to make it look rightFeb 05 21:31
sebsebsebyeah and Mint can have Unity as wellFeb 05 21:31
schestowitzSo fast it shoots its own head (monitor) offFeb 05 21:31
sebsebsebget it from the repo and yepFeb 05 21:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: of course instalilng certain things into Mint basicalley turns it into Ubuntu, but yeahFeb 05 21:32
DaemonFCI gave some consideration to LMDE but went Fedora-KDE insteadFeb 05 21:32
DaemonFCI think I'll park myself here for a while to comeFeb 05 21:32
schestowitzI have Fedora 14 KDEFeb 05 21:33
schestowitzit works wellFeb 05 21:33
sebsebsebI am PC Linux  OS for now on this computer,  but for Gnome Shell looks like i'll have to try the jhbuild from GnomeFeb 05 21:33
schestowitzBut I sort of abandoned that boxFeb 05 21:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: I put KDE 4.6 on itFeb 05 21:33
sebsebseband then I have a feeling Fedora 15 will be my next distro on here,  well unless I give Ubuntu 11.04 final a bit of a try first I MeanFeb 05 21:33
schestowitzTomorrow I'll try Ubuntu 10.10 and kubuntu-desktop on itFeb 05 21:33
sebsebsebmy next pshyicall installs I meanFeb 05 21:33
DaemonFCKWin works a lot faster, less of a drag on games now tooFeb 05 21:33
DaemonFCit's competitive with CompizFeb 05 21:33
schestowitzplasma is far fasterFeb 05 21:33
sebsebsebI only really got one computer to play withFeb 05 21:33
schestowitzThey recoded parts of itFeb 05 21:34
sebsebsebsince the other computer here,  that I can also use, other people use as well, and that's staying Mandriva for quite a long timeFeb 05 21:34
schestowitzso in 4.6 it's said to be noticeably fasterFeb 05 21:34
sebsebseband then these old computers I got etier don't work or some issue etc so yeahFeb 05 21:34
schestowitzin 4.3 it would sometimes crash or hog RAMFeb 05 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A year of the Hurd: 2010. http://is.gd/sqwOW3 !gnuFeb 05 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010 .::. Size~: 10.27 KBFeb 05 21:34
schestowitzRight now in 4.4 and 4.5 it's sometimes slowing down too muchFeb 05 21:34
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well I read last night that for Mint 10 when it comes to KDEFeb 05 21:34
sebsebsebDaemonFC: they were going toh ave KDE 4.5 or whatever, the previous one you know, but now instead they will release it with 4.6Feb 05 21:35
schestowitzI have activities... I never learned how to use them and it drives me berserk when I mistakenly zoom outFeb 05 21:35
DaemonFC4.4 and 4.5 were unbearably slow, but KDE and ATI both made some improvementsFeb 05 21:35
schestowitzBut these too improved over timeFeb 05 21:35
DaemonFCand now it's quite fastFeb 05 21:35
schestowitzThey used to be non-intuitive to useFeb 05 21:35
schestowitzI don't need bloody activitiies when I have workspaces and dual-heads at work and at homeFeb 05 21:35
DaemonFCyeah, Kubuntu backports KDE releases through a PPAFeb 05 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #portolinux cá em Portugal! ♺ @schestowitz: #Debian supporters, prepare for Squeeze Release Party http://ur1.ca/34cjo #gnu #linuxFeb 05 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Console wars – !Microsoft failing with the 360? & !Killzone3 public beta ( !PS3 ) http://tinyurl.com/639zgz2 !sony !xbox360 !mvpFeb 05 21:36
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I s till haven't done the Fedora Test Day ISOFeb 05 21:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: testingFeb 05 21:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: and then yeah put something on their wiki or whatever, and helps Fedora and upsream Gnome :)Feb 05 21:36
sebsebsebstill can do itFeb 05 21:36
sebsebsebeven though test day is over nowFeb 05 21:36
sebsebseband has been for a whileFeb 05 21:36
sebsebsebGnome 3 is what I am interested inFeb 05 21:36
schestowitzWhere's jono today?Feb 05 21:36
schestowitz[21:36] [Raw] whois jonoFeb 05 21:37
schestowitz[21:36] [Error] jono: No such nick/channel.Feb 05 21:37
sebsebsebMageia will make a nice virtual machine distro for when I want Gnome 2 for something though, later onFeb 05 21:37
schestowitzOffline I guess...Feb 05 21:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah well haven't you noticed?Feb 05 21:37
sebsebsebhe doesn't tend to come here on the weekendFeb 05 21:37
schestowitzSpending time with the wifeFeb 05 21:37
schestowitzWhile ryan plays with JabbaFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebwell he's not at workFeb 05 21:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: you can't harass jonoFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebsoFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebits his free timeFeb 05 21:38
schestowitzYou waste his time on purposeFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebif you think about it why would jono hang out here loads in his free time?Feb 05 21:38
schestowitzwe're a FREEFeb 05 21:38
schestowitz..software forumFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebits probably part of his job at Canonical reallyFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebto keep an eye on techrights a bitFeb 05 21:38
schestowitzyesFeb 05 21:38
schestowitzCommunity...Feb 05 21:38
schestowitzBut he has other matters to manageFeb 05 21:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: make sure your not doing loads of bad blog posts about Ubuntu and such I guessFeb 05 21:39
schestowitzHe's their CFR dudeFeb 05 21:39
sebsebsebwhat's a CFR?Feb 05 21:39
schestowitzWe're the "foreigners"Feb 05 21:39
DaemonFCCanonical is an open core freeware business with a product called Ubuntu that lets you subscribe to it to make all the nice features workFeb 05 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !debian sparc done, kfbsd-i386 build is now running #squeeze :)Feb 05 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@ruiseabra: #portolinux cá em Portugal!♺@schestowitz: #Debian supporters prepare for Squeeze Release Party http://ur1.ca/34cjo #gnu #linuxFeb 05 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gMusicBrowser To Replace Exaile In Xubuntu 11.04 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 54.68 KBFeb 05 21:39
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 21:39
schestowitzsebsebseb:Feb 05 21:39
schestowitz!google cfrFeb 05 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Council on Foreign Relations | http://www.cfr.org/Feb 05 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Code of Federal Regulations: Main Page | http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/Feb 05 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Code of Federal Regulations | http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/Feb 05 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - CFR - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFRFeb 05 21:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: You seem to quite like Ubuntu still really, even though really your not that sure about the direction things are going in either, how good or bad it will beFeb 05 21:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well not quite, but yeah I know what you meanFeb 05 21:40
DaemonFCare they evil or just incompetent ricers who want to pimp their wheels?Feb 05 21:40
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 21:40
sebsebsebDaemonFC: also for 11.04 they will try even more to get people using Ubuntu One as can be seen, by the sites about alpha 2Feb 05 21:40
sebsebseband I read about that thing before, the new Ubuntu One interface, whenever it was nowFeb 05 21:40
sebsebsebanyway guysFeb 05 21:41
sebsebsebyou so got to read quite a few of the comments on omgubuntuFeb 05 21:41
sebsebsebfor the alpha 2 release blog postFeb 05 21:41
DaemonFCI'm not interested in most Fog servicesFeb 05 21:41
sebsebsebsince a guy from Fedora was commenting quite a bit for a start :)Feb 05 21:41
sebsebseba guy who was  expressing concerns about the CAFeb 05 21:41
sebsebseband all that, because he's one of the ones trying to bring Unity to FedoraFeb 05 21:41
sebsebsebplus there were some other good comments there as well, for this one,  so yeah may take a while to read most of this stuff, but trust me,  you lot should read most of itFeb 05 21:42
DaemonFCthey can start a SIG and make a Fedora spin with UnityFeb 05 21:42
DaemonFCas long as they meet the Fedora free software guidelinesFeb 05 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I must be the last stubborn Palm OS user to export PDFs as text and HotSync them with a 2004 PDA :-) Well, 'tleast it work. #retro #palmFeb 05 21:42
sebsebseboh yeah MinceR and gnufreex see above ^Feb 05 21:42
sebsebsebDaemonFC: also jono was replying to the guy a bitFeb 05 21:43
DaemonFCRed Hat has never given much consideration to KDE in RHELFeb 05 21:44
DaemonFCbut the Fedora KDE version has gotten very goodFeb 05 21:44
sebsebsebalso not that long ago,  joey mentions the thing about cross distro software centreFeb 05 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two days till #Debian Squeeze goes Stable http://ur1.ca/34cmo it's actually due tomorrow. Parties in Redmond, bring throwable chairs.Feb 05 21:44
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sebsebseband even mentioned the CA in the blog post :DFeb 05 21:44
DaemonFCI don't see Unity going over well on FedoraFeb 05 21:45
sebsebsebDaemonFC: it will be fineFeb 05 21:45
sebsebsebas an option in repoFeb 05 21:45
sebsebsebalso it may even look better in Fedora, since I guess it won't be using the  kind of ugly Ubuntu theme :DFeb 05 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FOSS release parties will ALWAYS have one thing #Win7 doesn't; they're REAL, by REAL people with a REAL passion for their project #DebianFeb 05 21:46
sebsebsebDaemonFC: if I can run Gnome Shell and Unity in Fedora 15, well wow :)Feb 05 21:46
DaemonFCwill it still have the Ubuntu One spam?Feb 05 21:46
sebsebsebsounds like totally my distro when it comes out, well as long as Virtualbox isn't to much of an issue as wellFeb 05 21:46
sebsebsebDaemonFC: no probably not, but I don't know for sureFeb 05 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Elop makes his move. http://is.gd/2ItXcv #phonesFeb 05 21:47
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DaemonFCFedora really used to suck if you installed it with KDEFeb 05 21:47
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uhmm I did so with Fedora 13 and 14Feb 05 21:48
sebsebseband I found that it suckedFeb 05 21:48
DaemonFCKDE didn't really start becoming a serious option until F11Feb 05 21:48
sebsebsebyep I had an install also had KDE in F13 and F14 and I  found it suckedFeb 05 21:48
sebsebsebit was a bit like KubuntuFeb 05 21:48
DaemonFCit's always been there, to various degrees of neglectFeb 05 21:48
sebsebsebnot like Mandriva or PC LInux OSFeb 05 21:48
sebsebsebI am on about the defaults :)Feb 05 21:48
MinceRsebsebseb: which posts of omgmono are of interest?Feb 05 21:49
DaemonFCyes, Mandriva is the one to thank for Pulseaudio finally integrating with KDE if you want it toFeb 05 21:49
DaemonFCbefore that, it was horrible to set upFeb 05 21:49
sebsebsebMinceR: most of the comments to a blog  post, for a changeFeb 05 21:50
sebsebsebMinceR: mainly the ones from Jef and any replies, but some others as wellFeb 05 21:50
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/ubuntu-11-04-alpha-2-released/Feb 05 21:50
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: Mandriva can easily disable pulseaudio, without issues, in the control centre :)Feb 05 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thin clients move to Ubuntu-based distro http://ur1.ca/34co8 #ubuntu #linux #thinclientFeb 05 21:51
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sebsebsebone reason I liked Mandriva 2010.0Feb 05 21:51
DaemonFCyeah, but I want to use itFeb 05 21:51
sebsebsebI had issues with 9.10 and sound hmmFeb 05 21:51
DaemonFCbut it should be, and is, easy to turn offFeb 05 21:51
sebsebsebwhen it came to VirtualboxFeb 05 21:51
sebsebseband suchFeb 05 21:51
sebsebseband yeah sound is important for meFeb 05 21:51
DaemonFCknowing Ubuntu, there's probably a PPA for UnityFeb 05 21:52
DaemonFCthat's a better choice than trying to use an alpha at this pointFeb 05 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera maybe he'll hire SteveB as his butler :-)Feb 05 21:52
sebsebsebMinceR: this one will obviously be of interest as well http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/our-exclusive-interview-with-linus-torvalds-lca2011/Feb 05 21:52
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DaemonFCUbuntu alphas don't usually start to settle down until the 3rd or 4th oneFeb 05 21:53
DaemonFCUsing them before that basically guaratees daily breakage of somethingFeb 05 21:53
sebsebsebMinceR: however this is what I was on about earlier when I was saying about their CA http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/appstream-the-unified-app-store-for-linux/Feb 05 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "It Ain't Just Mubarak -- 7 of the Worst Dictators the U.S. Is Backing to the Hilt" http://is.gd/TKk4YnFeb 05 21:54
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sebsebsebalso webupd has a good one about that, and theres another  page or two that I know aboutFeb 05 21:54
DaemonFCjust the fact that they're using a kernel marked -rc2 would be enough to scare me off for nowFeb 05 21:54
sebsebseband I still haven't bothered to see that video properly yet hmm and :( in a wayFeb 05 21:54
sebsebsebI could have seen already, but...Feb 05 21:54
MinceRsebsebseb: what CA? Certification Authority?Feb 05 21:54
sebsebsebCopyright AssignmentsFeb 05 21:55
MinceRas for noobuntu, even more macos crap, including the menu nailed to the top of the screenFeb 05 21:55
gnufreexCanonical AssholeFeb 05 21:55
MinceRicFeb 05 21:55
sebsebsebCopyright Lisense AgreementsFeb 05 21:55
gnufreex?Feb 05 21:55
sebsebsebor whatever CLA stands forFeb 05 21:55
sebsebsebMinceR: indeed I am no Unity fanFeb 05 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wine 1.3.13 Released http://ur1.ca/34cp2 "The Wine development release 1.3.13 is now available."Feb 05 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Well he could be looking for a job soon.Feb 05 21:56
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sebsebsebit's sort of ok when trying, but I woudn't want to use that pretty much every dayFeb 05 21:56
MinceRsebsebseb: they put that one into the "classic" GUI as wellFeb 05 21:57
*schestowitz loves ubuntu but not Unity{tm}Feb 05 21:57
MinceRaccording to that articleFeb 05 21:57
sebsebsebhowever there will be people who will  want to use it pretty much every day, so yep other distros should provide as an option as well :)Feb 05 21:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: well the old Ubuntu is on the verge of dieing and has been really since 9.04Feb 05 21:57
sebsebsebin fact I was thinking about that the other dayFeb 05 21:57
sebsebsebbasically Ubuntu started to go rather hmm in a bad way for expereinced people such as us, with 10.04Feb 05 21:57
sebsebseb,but that's also when they got the new logo and other new brandingFeb 05 21:57
sebsebsebso yeah like I was saying, the old Ubuntu is deadFeb 05 21:57
sebsebsebthe old Ubuntu that I loved for yearsFeb 05 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @hazzy "It Ain't Just Mubarak -- 7 of the Worst Dictators the U.S. Is Backing to the Hilt" http://is.gd/TKk4YnFeb 05 21:57
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MinceRindeedFeb 05 21:58
schestowitzOld Ubuntu is fed to the tribeFeb 05 21:58
*MinceR checks the article on dictators to see if they're backing orbanFeb 05 21:58
schestowitzIt did ubuntuFeb 05 21:58
sebsebsebMinceR: and now for classic mode for 11.04, well see for yourself,  bye bye applications places and systemFeb 05 21:58
sebsebsebhello global menuFeb 05 21:58
sebsebseband some sort of menu on the left insteadFeb 05 21:58
schestowitz"Eat me. I'm old ubuntu, I give my humanity to others."Feb 05 21:58
sebsebsebMinceR: also the fall back option is called Ubuntu Classic DesktopFeb 05 21:59
MinceRicFeb 05 21:59
sebsebsebwell that's good in a way, since its not that much like Gnome 2 reallyFeb 05 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera they need a cheerleading guy for Nokia... someone enthusiastic to tell customers, "I. Love. This. Company. Yeahahaskdkh378t2*&"Feb 05 21:59
MinceRthey need some more words thereFeb 05 21:59
MinceRUbuntu Classic Enterprise Desktop SystemFeb 05 21:59
sebsebsebMinceR: Jef guy in the comments on the lapha 2 like, even mentions thatFeb 05 21:59
MinceRor something like thatFeb 05 21:59
sebsebsebso got to read that stuff :)Feb 05 22:00
MinceRsebsebseb: which comments are of interest on the appstream article?Feb 05 22:00
sebsebsebMinceR: oh that one not sure really if anyFeb 05 22:00
sebsebsebit's the alpha 2 articleFeb 05 22:00
sebsebsebblog entryFeb 05 22:00
schestowitzapp STEAM?Feb 05 22:00
sebsebsebthat has the comments of interestFeb 05 22:00
schestowitzFor Linux?!?!Feb 05 22:00
MinceRicFeb 05 22:00
schestowitz;-)Feb 05 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz But the sweat all over the stage.....Feb 05 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ALSA 1.0.24 Has Arrived, Bringing Better #Linux Audio http://ur1.ca/34cqd #kernel #audio #soundsystemFeb 05 22:01
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sebsebsebschestowitz: no distros may use a similar way for installing apps soonFeb 05 22:01
MinceRschestowitz: hopefully no DRM and "you thought you bought this software but you didn't" scam here :>Feb 05 22:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: look at the Mageia tag things are linked to from thereFeb 05 22:01
schestowitzTHey are lateFeb 05 22:01
sebsebsebomgubuntu only did one recently about itFeb 05 22:02
sebsebseband they are late in doing soFeb 05 22:02
schestowitzNo alpha in january as promisedFeb 05 22:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: yepFeb 05 22:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: you dislike omgu yet you mention it all the timeFeb 05 22:02
sebsebsebI got some Mageia dents to do yet, about things, but I haven't done so yetFeb 05 22:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: no I mention it sometimesFeb 05 22:02
sebsebsebhereFeb 05 22:02
sebsebseband other IRC cahnnels maybeFeb 05 22:02
sebsebsebon identica I am not so likely to do itFeb 05 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera ewwww...Feb 05 22:02
sebsebsebschestowitz: I used to link to it like anything though, beause I thought it was pretty goodFeb 05 22:03
MinceRsebsebseb: i see what you meantFeb 05 22:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: they do sometimes have some good stuff on it like interviews with people for exampleFeb 05 22:03
sebsebsebMinceR: the comments you mean?Feb 05 22:03
MinceRwell, the "speak up early" approach would be fitting for a free software model, but the "wait to see if final sucks less" approach fits the behind-closed-doors modelFeb 05 22:03
MinceRyesFeb 05 22:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mageia ISO 1 won't be untill June nowFeb 05 22:04
sebsebsebschestowitz: unless delayed again or something I guessFeb 05 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The SCO Group Sold? http://bit.ly/fFsslt #sco #unix #linux #gplFeb 05 22:04
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MinceRUnXis is The Chosen One?Feb 05 22:04
DaemonFCthe police just knocked on my door looking for my neighborFeb 05 22:05
sebsebsebMinceR: also notice how that Ubuntu Community Member who trolled well you mainlyFeb 05 22:05
MinceRi sawFeb 05 22:05
sebsebsebMinceR: was commenting on that omgubuntu link?Feb 05 22:05
DaemonFCI said "I know you're not looking for me, I haven't done anything to anyone lately"Feb 05 22:05
DaemonFCB-)Feb 05 22:05
sebsebsebin fact he comments on quite a lot of them at the moment it seemsFeb 05 22:05
MinceRit's his kind of crowd, apparentlyFeb 05 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Indian coverage of Honeycomb. http://is.gd/46w5Ag #tablets !androidFeb 05 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #MAFIAA wants people to believe all hard drives are used to snap their shoddy stuff (and thus tax them), but I have 100GB of face imagesFeb 05 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Defend #Wikileaks Mon 7 Feb with Tariq Ali, Jemima Khan, Tony Benn & more. DETAILS: http://bit.ly/ibyRNZ !wlFeb 05 22:06
MinceRthe "exploit the free software community while antagonizing them at every opportunity" crowd, that isFeb 05 22:06
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sebsebsebschestowitz: your one of the guys who spread Ubuntu hype :D  I have done a bit of that myself, but I won't do it anymoreFeb 05 22:06
DaemonFCI bought SCO just so I could sue MinceR personally for his flagrant unlicensed use of my intellectual property that I may or may not have in an indeternminate part of the Linux systemFeb 05 22:06
DaemonFCthat much is for the jury to decideFeb 05 22:07
MinceRDaemonFC: well, time for you to show some evidence, thenFeb 05 22:07
MinceRotherwise you'll be laughed out of the world :>Feb 05 22:07
MinceR(except for frauds like novell, who will gladly make deals with you)Feb 05 22:07
DaemonFCI intend to pursue a a claim that you did it because you don't like black people or jewsFeb 05 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kitchen knives sometimes lead to murder that the police investigates. Should we tax kitchen knives to fund the police departments? #mafiaaFeb 05 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter The SCO Group Sold? http://bit.ly/fFsslt #sco #unix #linux #gplFeb 05 22:07
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DaemonFCthere have to be a few of them in the jury poolFeb 05 22:07
MinceR:>Feb 05 22:08
sebsebsebMinceR: read the jeff comments and replies all of them :DFeb 05 22:08
sebsebsebalso the whole thing about not just judeing something when alpha and blah de blah right sure, butFeb 05 22:08
sebsebsebbut yeah need to complain about stuff in development, if its going to be changed, since it won't when final comes outFeb 05 22:08
MinceRThe crash report app popped up, then crashed.Feb 05 22:09
MinceRThe crash report app for the crashed crash report app crashed.Feb 05 22:09
MinceRThe crash report for something else that crashed opened up Mozilla so I could fill out some form or another in order to submit it. Mozilla crashed.Feb 05 22:09
MinceRi lol'dFeb 05 22:09
sebsebsebMinceR: from omgubuntu I assume a comment?Feb 05 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Defend #Wikileaks Mon 7 Feb with Tariq Ali, Jemima Khan, Tony Benn & more. DETAILS: http://bit.ly/ibyRNZ !wlFeb 05 22:09
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MinceRyesFeb 05 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Secret correspondence shows British helped Libya secure Megrahi release http://is.gd/9Bb99c !wlFeb 05 22:12
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MinceR"Unity is in release state in Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Remix, which is where I currently hate Unity. I’ll start hating Unity in 11.04 once it’s released."Feb 05 22:12
MinceRlolFeb 05 22:12
sebsebsebMinceR: yep that was a good one :DFeb 05 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks should not be the one needing defence.Those whom wikileaks exposed 4 illegal conduct should seek defence & maybe become fugitivesFeb 05 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secret correspondence shows British helped Libya secure Megrahi release http://ur1.ca/34cst !wikileaks #ifwl #libyaFeb 05 22:14
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MinceRalso, i see some m$ fanboy attacking bug #1Feb 05 22:15
MinceRalreadyFeb 05 22:15
MinceRmake that 2 m$ fanboysFeb 05 22:15
sebsebsebone of the guys who commented about bug 1 if I remember correctly, I know him from IRCFeb 05 22:16
sebsebsebaction parsnipFeb 05 22:16
gnufreexBill Gates commented to bug #1Feb 05 22:16
MinceRalso, this pathetic excuse for a commenting system shows many signed comments as "Anonymous" without javascriptFeb 05 22:16
MinceRwhat the fuckFeb 05 22:16
sebsebsebgnufreex: heh really?Feb 05 22:16
gnufreexsebsebseb:RealllyFeb 05 22:16
gnufreexHe said it is not a bugFeb 05 22:16
MinceRwhy couldn't it just say "i'm stupid and i can't decide who wrote this comment without running a few MBs of bloat on your CPU" instead?Feb 05 22:17
sebsebsebin another channel the other night, someone basically said,  that bug 1 was stupid, and becuse of that no wonder  Desktop Linux doesn't hit offFeb 05 22:17
MinceRtook me a while to realize that i need javascript to read the comments correctlyFeb 05 22:17
sebsebsebanyway on the omgubuntu link theres a comment that basically says bug 1 is a hello world messageFeb 05 22:17
MinceRi've seen itFeb 05 22:17
MinceRit doesn't really surprise seeing how canonical and ubuntu were derailedFeb 05 22:17
*sebsebseb remembers when he was a bit of an Ubuntu fan boy, and would sometimes link people to bug 1, hmmFeb 05 22:17
MinceRfrom "make a stable debian release with new versions every 6 months" to "support the m$ agenda a little more subly than novell tried to do"Feb 05 22:18
MinceRs/bl/btl/Feb 05 22:18
sebsebsebyeah Ubuntu is about winning over Windows users big time now, and it started with 9.04Feb 05 22:18
cubezzzI think I'd rather just use debianFeb 05 22:19
sebsebsebhowever I also remember that I thought 8.10 was ready for the mainstreame masses really, if only there was proper help for itFeb 05 22:19
sebsebseband 8.10 is the last version they had before patching Gnome like they been doing since hmmFeb 05 22:19
cubezzzdebian is also good for shortwave radioFeb 05 22:19
gnufreexProblem is that Ubuntu doesn't fight Micrososftian way of thinking, so all that users they move from Windows doesn't matter.Feb 05 22:19
sebsebsebthere's also some comment on that omgubuntu link that basically says that certian stuff never gets fixed, something in 10.10 for example, that now won't get fixed,  because Gnome is moving on to Gnome 3 or whateverFeb 05 22:20
gnufreexThey will go back when Windows 8/9/10 comes out.Feb 05 22:20
cubezzzbahFeb 05 22:20
sebsebseband Mono uses Windows like stuff, and the kind of funny thing if you think about it, is how loads of the Ubuntu users dislike Windows, but yet will end up using Windows like stuff in Ubuntu and happileyFeb 05 22:20
sebsebsebsome would even say they hate Windows, and many will say they love UbuntuFeb 05 22:21
gnufreexAnd then MS fanbois will point that they are using Mono anyway, so why not unse Windows?Feb 05 22:21
gnufreexThey will say okFeb 05 22:21
sebsebseb,but really they probably mainly love the other projects,  the important projects that make Ubuntu :D they just don't know thatFeb 05 22:21
sebsebsebgnufreex: and some people should probably just stay on Windows reallyFeb 05 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UBB? Oh, it stands for Unbelievable Business Baloney http://ur1.ca/34cut #ubb #canada #attackOnStreaming #bell #hell #failFeb 05 22:22
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sebsebsebI can't remember what I ran, butFeb 05 22:23
sebsebsebI remember some guy from Syndey (unless he lied about where from and that well its the net)Feb 05 22:23
sebsebsebhe pointed out to meFeb 05 22:23
sebsebseball the .exes Banshee hasFeb 05 22:23
sebsebsebbasicalleyFeb 05 22:24
sebsebsebran some command and yeah could see itFeb 05 22:24
schestowitz[22:22] <sebsebseb> gnufreex: and some people should probably just stay on Windows reallyFeb 05 22:24
schestowitzSounds dangerousFeb 05 22:24
MinceRit's a punishmentFeb 05 22:24
schestowitzWhat if someone pushes them?Feb 05 22:24
MinceRsome people deserve itFeb 05 22:24
sebsebsebMinceR: in a way that's trueFeb 05 22:24
MinceRlike the people who shoveled it together at m$Feb 05 22:24
cubezzzif a fist came out of the monitor and punched them in the face they would still use windowsFeb 05 22:24
cubezzzhopeless casesFeb 05 22:24
schestowitzHeheFeb 05 22:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep Windows is a security risk and can be rather dangerous as a result, unless security is taken care of more porpelryFeb 05 22:24
sebsebseb,but even then, there may be unknown backdoors into the systemFeb 05 22:25
MinceRwell, those pcs should be deprived of network connectionsFeb 05 22:25
schestowitzNo, I meant staying on windowsFeb 05 22:25
*schestowitz pictures man sitting on the window paneFeb 05 22:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: why?Feb 05 22:25
schestowitzLike fence-sittingFeb 05 22:25
schestowitzOnly with abyss on the one sideFeb 05 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: I'll be at the Port Carling Community Centre tonight at 6 pm for the Winterfest Dinner. CU there!Feb 05 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Torontonamo: #G20 abuse: What about the others? - Toronto Star http://bit.ly/fdEI50Feb 05 22:26
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sebsebsebMinceR: in a way certian people, deserve Windows and any issues they get with itFeb 05 22:26
MinceRindeedFeb 05 22:26
MinceRon the other hand, we don't deserve the spam their winblows zombies forwardFeb 05 22:26
sebsebsebMinceR: indeedFeb 05 22:26
schestowitzand collective punishments like ISP taxFeb 05 22:26
sebsebsebuh what's that?Feb 05 22:27
schestowitzIn Germany, helping people clean viruses = paid by taxpayersFeb 05 22:27
sebsebseboh?Feb 05 22:27
DaemonFCWhy is Mandriva going to RPM5?Feb 05 22:27
schestowitzBut then again, I think viruses are OKFeb 05 22:27
sebsebsebsince RPM5 is apparnatly betterFeb 05 22:27
sebsebsebthat's why it seemsFeb 05 22:27
DaemonFCtheir website is downFeb 05 22:27
schestowitzThey put my competitor at position of disadvantageFeb 05 22:27
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Mandriva or RPM5?Feb 05 22:27
DaemonFCRPM 5Feb 05 22:28
schestowitzViruses defrag, crashes, etc.Feb 05 22:28
sebsebsebohFeb 05 22:28
sebsebseb@  DaemonFCFeb 05 22:28
schestowitz"spoiling" their "PC"Feb 05 22:28
DaemonFCI found some old interviews where the guy was complaining about performance problems in original RPM (which pretty much everyone still uses)Feb 05 22:28
sebsebsebMinceR: also in a way, we don't deserve to be forced into using Windows, if out there, you know Educational Establishments or public library or work place or you get the ideaFeb 05 22:28
DaemonFCand most of those performance problems have been fixedFeb 05 22:28
sebsebsebMinceR: nice one to Google by the way, banning Windows :DFeb 05 22:28
sebsebsebanyway surely you lot have noticed, how the commercial stuff tends to be most popularFeb 05 22:29
sebsebsebeven if it's not really the bestFeb 05 22:29
cubezzzmere marketingFeb 05 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Stillborn Revolution: A Cautionary Tale. http://is.gd/elUpWw #warondemocracyFeb 05 22:29
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schestowitzSo DaemonFC can't work for GoogleFeb 05 22:29
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sebsebsebFacebook, Twitter, Windows,  Mac OS X, Google, for exampleFeb 05 22:29
cubezzzanyone with a bit of intelligence isn't swayed by mere marketingFeb 05 22:29
sebsebsebwell Google search is ok, but there are other good ones as wellFeb 05 22:29
MinceRindeedFeb 05 22:30
MinceRbut not just marketingFeb 05 22:30
DaemonFCthe way I understand it, that policy only affects systems the company actually ownsFeb 05 22:30
MinceRthere's this form of brain damage that's widely spread that makes people believe that just because something is backed by a company it's automatically superiorFeb 05 22:30
DaemonFCthey don't have any right to tell you what you can use at homeFeb 05 22:30
MinceReven if that company doesn't really provide support (m$, for example)Feb 05 22:31
sebsebsebMinceR: heh I guess at the brain damage part, but yeah exactly people think what you just saidFeb 05 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Stillborn Revolution: A Cautionary Tale. http://is.gd/elUpWw #warondemocracyFeb 05 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @_Goblin: OPENBYTES: Console wars – Microsoft failing with the 360 & Killzone 3 beta (PS3) #xbox360 #microsoft #360 #sony #killzone3 #ps3Feb 05 22:31
sebsebsebMinceR: and even more so, if they have to pay something for itFeb 05 22:31
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sebsebsebMinceR: useualleyFeb 05 22:31
MinceRthat tooFeb 05 22:31
sebsebseband it annoys meFeb 05 22:31
MinceRthough that's probably just cognitive dissonanceFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebjust like it annoys me howFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebmany people are lazyFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebandFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebuse Twitter and identica as if they were the same siteFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebwhen no they are notFeb 05 22:31
MinceR"i don't think that i'm a fool therefore there must be a good reason for that i've paid for this"Feb 05 22:31
DaemonFCMinceR: Microsoft's definition of a priority support contract means you get to spend 3 hours on hold and bounced around between the wrong peopleFeb 05 22:31
sebsebsebschestowitz does it as well, but I think schestowitz has proper good reason toFeb 05 22:32
sebsebsebsometimes see dents on identica that are really for TwitterFeb 05 22:32
sebsebseband stuff only going to tag,  when it should go to the group as well, and yeahFeb 05 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Democracy means that the people can vote for their leader, it doesn't mean the leader is appointed by a self-appointed "democracy champion"Feb 05 22:32
sebsebsebsomething I got a bit annoyed about again recently, hence mentioning nowFeb 05 22:33
DaemonFCthey seem to think that because their system flagged some of your company's software pirated that you should have to come in on your day off and spend it on the phone with themFeb 05 22:33
sebsebsebkind of going off the subject of the other subject, but I did mention Twitter already in that one, so yeahFeb 05 22:33
DaemonFCGoogle couldn't have banned Windows entirely anywayFeb 05 22:33
MinceRwhy not?Feb 05 22:34
DaemonFCit's still their priority platform for ChromeFeb 05 22:34
MinceRoh.Feb 05 22:34
MinceRwell, they could change thatFeb 05 22:34
sebsebsebwell yes the Google developers probably have some Windows machines there for itFeb 05 22:34
MinceRthough they'd need to change it for other shits too, such as google earthFeb 05 22:34
cubezzzI assume there is no chrome browser for windows?Feb 05 22:34
MinceR(worst piece of software from google i've ever encountered)Feb 05 22:34
sebsebsebthat reminds meFeb 05 22:34
DaemonFCcubezzz: You mean Chromium?Feb 05 22:35
sebsebsebthere's some site whereFeb 05 22:35
DaemonFCthose get built hourlyFeb 05 22:35
sebsebsebmeant to be able to see views of cities and such really wellFeb 05 22:35
sebsebsebplus the site that apparnatly has the biggest one of those images at the momentFeb 05 22:35
cubezzzah, okFeb 05 22:35
cubezzzsilly meFeb 05 22:35
cubezzzand mac tooFeb 05 22:35
DaemonFCyou can run Chromium on Windows, just use one of the installers the build bot spits outFeb 05 22:36
DaemonFCbut there's no auto updateFeb 05 22:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mageia aren't even going to try and compete properly this year with other distros, it seemsFeb 05 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Computer Engineer #Barbie - Girl Geek Stereotype Case Study [IMG] http://ur1.ca/34cxyFeb 05 22:36
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DaemonFCyou'll have to grab another one and install over it laterFeb 05 22:36
MinceRthe best satellite image thing ever i've seen was some swedish thingFeb 05 22:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: which is disapointing really, but I basically knew that for a while now alreadyFeb 05 22:36
MinceRwith high resolution height mapsFeb 05 22:36
sebsebsebwell BBC Click mentioned some other siteFeb 05 22:36
sebsebsebthat I haven't been on yetFeb 05 22:36
MinceRwhich made even stuff like people and trees stick out of the groundFeb 05 22:36
MinceRnot just buildingsFeb 05 22:36
sebsebsebin  not the one from today, but  week beforeFeb 05 22:36
DaemonFCsebsebseb: They could rush it and put out something broken I'm sure :)Feb 05 22:36
sebsebsebDaemonFC: no they aren't rushing things, but for alpha 1 they kind of are  putting out something brokenFeb 05 22:37
sebsebsebshell and that's about itFeb 05 22:37
sebsebsebthey are doing bootstrapping or whateverFeb 05 22:39
DaemonFCI'm not really too worried about what they doFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebon the subject of alpha's I guess alpha 2 is a bitFeb 05 22:39
DaemonFCMandriva isn't in any immediate danger of going awayFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebwell useless for many of us right now, since propritary drivers for Nivdia or ATIFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: true, butFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: it won't  becompe one of the most populast distros again probablyFeb 05 22:39
DaemonFCif it's compatible with Mandriva, just add PLF and get your drivers thereFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Mageia wil haev a chance at becoming one, when it's more properly developedFeb 05 22:39
sebsebsebanyway I think other distros will start to become quite a bit more popularFeb 05 22:40
DaemonFCif there's no easy way of getting gstreamer plugins, ffmpeg, vlc, and video drivers, I'm not interestedFeb 05 22:40
sebsebsebsoon after the Ubuntu 11.04 releaseFeb 05 22:40
sebsebsebwell Linux Mint probably yes for sure, but Linux Mint is a kind of stepping stone distro as well,  and they are more open to other distros being mentioend in their chat channel I thinkFeb 05 22:40
sebsebsebso :DFeb 05 22:40
sebsebseboh it's going to be so interesting when Ubuntu 11.04 comes outFeb 05 22:41
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJaAe7sYoCA&feature=relatedFeb 05 22:41
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schestowitzoops. Wrong channelFeb 05 22:41
sebsebsebMinceR: how many people will stop using Ubuntu as their main distro, and for some completly stop usingi t?Feb 05 22:41
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sebsebsebthousands of people it may beFeb 05 22:42
sebsebseb,but thousands more will come to Ubuntu as well so hmmFeb 05 22:42
DaemonFCsounds like their biggest problem so far is blowing the dust off of Mandriva's build system they're inheritingFeb 05 22:42
DaemonFC:)Feb 05 22:42
sebsebseb,but if they lose most of the expereinced users well that won't be so good for themFeb 05 22:42
sebsebseband newbies in general, use the distro they are told to useFeb 05 22:42
sebsebsebDaemonFC: RPM5 for Mandriva RPM for MageiaFeb 05 22:43
sebsebsebDaemonFC: so they won't be compatibleFeb 05 22:43
MinceRmaybe they'll switch once m$ starts charging for monoFeb 05 22:43
sebsebsebUnityLinux using  RPM5 as well,  the Mandriva fork, distro builder type distroFeb 05 22:43
sebsebsebquite a few distros based on UnityLinuxFeb 05 22:43
sebsebseband I think PC Linux OS are considering going with RPM5 at the moment or whateverFeb 05 22:43
sebsebsebMinceR: they got Zeitgest in Ubuntu for software centre and such, that uses MonoFeb 05 22:44
sebsebsebUbuntu Technical Board seem to think there isn't a problem with Mono since no one got sued over it yetFeb 05 22:45
MinceR:>Feb 05 22:45
sebsebseb,but I think the Ubuntu Technicalrd Board is invovled with the CA some how as wellFeb 05 22:45
MinceRthey also say "we'll just rewrite everything that uses it if they start suing"Feb 05 22:45
MinceRi'd love to see thatFeb 05 22:45
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sebsebsebso by the two things I just said, if they are true both of them, then I guess no suprises really to what I just saidFeb 05 22:45
DaemonFCthat'll be fun by the time everything in the desktop they ship needs Mono for somethingFeb 05 22:46
MinceR"you have 1 month to rewrite the desktop from scratch, go!"Feb 05 22:46
sebsebsebDaemonFC: if it happensFeb 05 22:46
sebsebsebthe sueing and all thatFeb 05 22:46
sebsebseboh so many people will hve been wrongFeb 05 22:46
DaemonFCif it was just one thig or another, you could drop it and move onFeb 05 22:46
sebsebsebI mean the ones who thought Mono was ok to useFeb 05 22:46
DaemonFCbut they're making core parts of their system need itFeb 05 22:46
sebsebseband Canonical was one of them as wellFeb 05 22:46
sebsebseband yeah that won't look good for CanonicalFeb 05 22:47
MinceRDaemonFC: they never named a limitFeb 05 22:47
sebsebsebso yeah depends on how want to look at things, but maybe Microsoft trying ot patent sue over Mono, will be a good thingFeb 05 22:47
MinceRsuch as "we'll stop at 3 apps that require mono" or somethingFeb 05 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux-based home NAS devices use as little as seven Watts http://ur1.ca/34d0q #linux saving money even after the purchaseFeb 05 22:47
MinceRshows you how much they really meant the "we'll rewrite everything" partFeb 05 22:47
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DaemonFCMinceR: The less you need something the easier it is to get rid ofFeb 05 22:47
DaemonFCby the time Microsoft moves in, it'll be "rip off your own arm"Feb 05 22:48
sebsebsebLoads of things are hmm when it comes to Ubuntu now,  the distro itself, some of the community stuff they do is aboustly great thoughFeb 05 22:48
MinceRwhat community stuff?Feb 05 22:48
sebsebsebwell we will see how things go over timeFeb 05 22:48
MinceRthe trolling?Feb 05 22:49
sebsebseband 2011 is an interesting yer for Desktop LinuxFeb 05 22:49
MinceROnesidedRespect?Feb 05 22:49
DaemonFCKDE has functional equivalents of all the stuff I was using which was based on Mono in GNOMEFeb 05 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Music Can Pay as Well as Paid Music, YouTube Says http://ur1.ca/34d1a giving stuff for free may be very smartFeb 05 22:49
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DaemonFCthat's one thing I like about itFeb 05 22:49
sebsebsebMinceR: well I mean,  Ubuntu OpenWeek,  Ubuntu User Days,  Ubuntu weekly Q&A sessions I was in one about the kernel recently,  and yeah Jono Bacon's ustreams those are good community stuff as wellFeb 05 22:49
MinceRi don't know thoseFeb 05 22:50
DaemonFCGNOME has a lot of applications in each category, but only 1 or 2 of them tend to be any goodFeb 05 22:50
MinceRand i wouldn't want to watch bacon's ustreams anywayFeb 05 22:50
sebsebsebMinceR: hehFeb 05 22:50
sebsebsebwhy not?Feb 05 22:50
MinceRbecause the one time he actually said something, he attacked someone who did more for free software than he didFeb 05 22:50
MinceRmost of the time he says nothing in so many wordsFeb 05 22:50
sebsebsebI like Jono Bacon, but I won't trust everything he says when it comes to Ubuntu and so on,  trust  maybe I mean beliveFeb 05 22:51
DaemonFCBacon promotes his employer's agendaFeb 05 22:51
DaemonFCnot free softwareFeb 05 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR: that reminds meFeb 05 22:51
MinceRindeedFeb 05 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR: antoher great interviewFeb 05 22:51
DaemonFCif the two happen to meet, greatFeb 05 22:51
MinceRand that agenda is harmful to everyone but m$Feb 05 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR: on omgubuntu again, but so got to see this as well, because of what he had to say about Jono and Mark for a startFeb 05 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR: which even resulted in Jono commenting about that in the commentsFeb 05 22:51
sebsebsebit was to do with Unity yeahFeb 05 22:51
sebsebseband this was one of the first Canonical employees, who left about two years, to do  stuff with upstream GnomeFeb 05 22:52
sebsebsebwho left after about two yearsFeb 05 22:52
sebsebsebyeah so got to see that as wellFeb 05 22:52
sebsebsebMinceR: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/lca2011-interview-–-ex-canonical-jeff-waugh-talks-beginnings-of-ubuntu-unity-gnome/Feb 05 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Indian students in US radio-tagged; angry govt says remove it http://ur1.ca/34d27 people as objects. Welcome to the 21st century.Feb 05 22:54
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sebsebsebMinceR: hmm you see the link oddly as well?Feb 05 22:54
MinceRit looks odd but it worksFeb 05 22:54
sebsebsebit's only half showing as a link for me, the rest text, but bot did it anyway the titleFeb 05 22:54
MinceRthere's an m dash or something like that in the urlFeb 05 22:55
MinceRstupid thing to put in a urlFeb 05 22:55
sebsebsebm dash?Feb 05 22:55
MinceRa dash that's as long as the letter mFeb 05 22:55
MinceRcould be an n dash, thoughFeb 05 22:55
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MinceRanyway, konsole's URL highlighting recognizes the whole thingFeb 05 22:55
sebsebsebOh and anyone interested in a Linux car?  :D  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/lca2011-picked-up-in-a-linux-car-you-betcha/Feb 05 22:56
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MinceRi prefer a GNU/Linux carFeb 05 22:56
sebsebsebMinceR: I refuse to link to omgubuntu stuff on identica these days and stuff like that, but here is okFeb 05 22:56
MinceRand i doubt this one runs it anywayFeb 05 22:56
sebsebsebMinceR: anyway see what that ex Canonical guy has to say about Jono and Mark?Feb 05 22:57
MinceRit's a long article, i didn't get far yetFeb 05 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @thistleweb #FOSS release parties will ALWAYS have one thing #Win7 doesn't; they're REAL, by REAL people with a REAL passion for thei ...Feb 05 22:57
sebsebsebI think I agree with that really,  Jono is a nice guy,  he knows what he knows,  and so on, but yeah in a way he's probably suppoused to promote Unity really, even though he said in a ustream before that he wasn't paid to do so, and does it, because he likes unityFeb 05 22:58
sebsebsebplus I remember in older ones, he would be like,  can see on web cam and so on, so can see if I am lieing or not, well not quite like that, but there was somethingFeb 05 22:58
MinceRhe knows what he knows but he isn't tellingFeb 05 22:59
sebsebsebMinceR: for me Ubuntu is a bit like Windows  and for quite a while now, and I have said stuff liks this before, but I  mean like,  it's like Windows,  because into tech, will want to keep an eye on it at times, what is going on with itFeb 05 22:59
MinceRi don't care to keep an eye on winblowsFeb 05 23:00
sebsebseband of course with Ubuntu there is much more of the keeping an eye on things,  because development is much faster than WindowsFeb 05 23:00
MinceRmore of it comes out of the tap than i want to knowFeb 05 23:00
sebsebsebMinceR: well yeah I don't tend to follow Micrsooft news eitherFeb 05 23:00
sebsebseb,but I mean likeFeb 05 23:00
MinceRevery time i gave winblows a chance i lived to regret itFeb 05 23:00
sebsebsebwhen they start hyping up Windows 8 or whatever the next one isFeb 05 23:00
sebsebsebi'll want to read some stuff about itFeb 05 23:00
sebsebsebprobably even try out a development version if I can and such you knowFeb 05 23:01
MinceRi'll probably read about how this particular version sucks assFeb 05 23:01
sebsebsebMinceR: every time I gave Ubuntu a chance since 10.04, for using for quite a while,  I ended up remembering why I don't like Ubuntu that much since 10.04Feb 05 23:01
sebsebsebevery time I treid a version I meanFeb 05 23:01
sebsebsebdevelopment or stable since 10.04Feb 05 23:01
sebsebsebMinceR: yes I think Ubuntu 11.04 will get quite a few negative views, like 9.10 didFeb 05 23:02
sebsebsebsome of them will be very knowledgeable and fair really, others wiill be quite ignorant and not that fairFeb 05 23:03
sebsebsebfor a while I quite enjoyed that kind of stuff for 9.10, but then I got bored of itFeb 05 23:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@mvalente: Pensei q já tinha visto de tudo, mas hoje perdi a fé na humanidade: uma appp de gestão de urgências num hospital, toda em Flash!Feb 05 23:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching the machinist. Being English I know what my first guess would have been for hangman game on the fridge.Feb 05 23:49

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