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txdv | Faither: and what time frame do you think mokia will *die*? | Feb 13 00:00 |
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MinceR | hm, i wonder how well the m$ scheme to pay people to use their search engine went | Feb 13 00:00 |
MinceR | probably not well, since they stopped | Feb 13 00:00 |
oiaohm | Really the Nokia move is to try to slow Linux down. | Feb 13 00:00 |
txdv | in what * | Feb 13 00:00 |
oiaohm | Faither: txdv and MinceR can any of you name the game changing thing Meego was working on. | Feb 13 00:01 |
MinceR | oiaohm: GNU/Linux on smartphones | Feb 13 00:01 |
oiaohm | Missed. MinceR | Feb 13 00:01 |
MinceR | also, using the same distro on a wide range of devices | Feb 13 00:01 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: "Linux"? They just killed only GNU/Linux moblile platform. Microsoft can compete with Linux, it can't with GNU. | Feb 13 00:01 |
MinceR | oiaohm: it is game changing | Feb 13 00:01 |
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oiaohm | The big game changer is the single kernel for all arm devices. | Feb 13 00:02 |
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MinceR | nah, the common kernel was already there | Feb 13 00:02 |
oiaohm | In binary form. | Feb 13 00:02 |
MinceR | Android used that kernel too, more or less | Feb 13 00:02 |
Faither | It is a free platform where you could virtually run every thing you want and are in control of your own data | Feb 13 00:02 |
oiaohm | No its a unique kernel per device still in Android. MinceR | Feb 13 00:02 |
MinceR | it's still Linux. | Feb 13 00:02 |
oiaohm | But binary its unique per device. | Feb 13 00:02 |
MinceR | even on desktop PCs you can compile different binaries | Feb 13 00:02 |
MinceR | many people do | Feb 13 00:03 |
gnufreex | MinceR: android kernel is incompatible with Linux kernel. Wakelocks, binder instead Dbus . Android Drivers can't be merged to Linxu kernel | Feb 13 00:03 |
MinceR | for example, if you don't use initrd, you have to compile your root filesystem driver into the kernel | Feb 13 00:03 |
oiaohm | But on the PC you can build a single kernel to run on most of them. | Feb 13 00:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I don't get American late night shows. "You're such an interesting person. Whoops, your five minutes is up. Good luck with the thing. Next!" | Feb 13 00:03 | |
MinceR | gnufreex: there still probably is a lot of common code | Feb 13 00:03 |
MinceR | dbus is in the kernel? | Feb 13 00:03 |
oiaohm | So software and hardware can be split on a PC. | Feb 13 00:03 |
Faither | Coudln't MeeGo run Android apps as of late? | Feb 13 00:03 |
MinceR | iirc there was some software that could do that | Feb 13 00:03 |
oiaohm | icedroid is underway. Faither | Feb 13 00:04 |
MinceR | not sure of its status | Feb 13 00:04 |
MinceR | but it shouldn't be too difficult anyway | Feb 13 00:04 |
oiaohm | Meego due to lack of vendors was having to look at the single kernel everywhere option. | Feb 13 00:04 |
MinceR | in the worst case, you could install the android SDK and run the emulator it comes with :> | Feb 13 00:04 |
gnufreex | There are common code, but development is not common. It is one way street. Android rebases on newest version of Linux kernel but no code flows from Android to lkml. MinceR | Feb 13 00:04 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: some code flows from android to main kernel. | Feb 13 00:05 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: some area are highly disputed. | Feb 13 00:05 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Current Linux kernel has a api that can do equal to Wakelocks | Feb 13 00:05 |
txdv | why did google fork at all? | Feb 13 00:05 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: no hardware drivers. | Feb 13 00:05 |
MinceR | probably because they can't play nice with others | Feb 13 00:05 |
oiaohm | txdv: do you think google search runs a standard kernel. | Feb 13 00:05 |
oiaohm | Google has forked off there own invention for years. | Feb 13 00:06 |
oiaohm | Predates android by a long way. | Feb 13 00:06 |
gnufreex | <txdv> why did google fork at all? | Feb 13 00:06 |
gnufreex | because they are greedy basrards, they don't want their code to end up in areal GNU/Linux like MeeGO or such. | Feb 13 00:06 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: the fork predates android. | Feb 13 00:06 |
txdv | Oo | Feb 13 00:06 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: You mean MeeGO? It doesn't predate android... it created android. | Feb 13 00:06 |
oiaohm | The fork happened right at the start of google. | Feb 13 00:06 |
oiaohm | Ie google own kernel started in 1998 | Feb 13 00:07 |
txdv | gnufreex: you know that meego belongs to the linux foundation | Feb 13 00:07 |
oiaohm | So to google doing there own kernel internally was normal. | Feb 13 00:07 |
txdv | so you are stating that the linux foundation is not interested in getting code into the main kernel? | Feb 13 00:07 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: No, that is not same fork. They don't use server kernel in android | Feb 13 00:07 |
gnufreex | txdv: I know | Feb 13 00:07 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Its the same development team. | Feb 13 00:08 |
oiaohm | Who has been making custom kernels for google internal operations. | Feb 13 00:08 |
txdv | What do you know? | Feb 13 00:08 |
txdv | It was a question | Feb 13 00:08 |
gnufreex | txdv: No, I say Android team don't want their code in main kernel/ | Feb 13 00:08 |
oiaohm | Who has not played well with the mainline since 1998. | Feb 13 00:08 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Really wrong. | Feb 13 00:08 |
txdv | Because of greed? | Feb 13 00:08 |
oiaohm | Android team has been putting up there designs to lkml. | Feb 13 00:08 |
gnufreex | ok | Feb 13 00:09 |
MinceR | is the android kernel fork related to the fork that drives the search engine? | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | Wait a sec | Feb 13 00:09 |
MinceR | seems unlikely to me | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | We are talking diferent thing hare | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | here | Feb 13 00:09 |
oiaohm | MinceR: There is not one Linux kernel driving the search engine. | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | Google's server fork of Linux is separate from android | Feb 13 00:09 |
oiaohm | MinceR: they are many different kernels inside google. | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | Google's server Linux started in 2004 | Feb 13 00:09 |
gnufreex | Android started in 2005 as separate company | Feb 13 00:10 |
gnufreex | And google bought it later | Feb 13 00:10 |
MinceR | there's a point | Feb 13 00:10 |
gnufreex | Completely separate. | Feb 13 00:10 |
oiaohm | Making custom kernels has been normal to google. | Feb 13 00:10 |
gnufreex | Android was meant to only take code, never push upstream | Feb 13 00:10 |
oiaohm | 2004 is when they decided to move to a common ish image between departments. | Feb 13 00:10 |
oiaohm | 2006 Google started pushing some of there core code upstream. | Feb 13 00:11 |
gnufreex | Yeah, they push code from server version | Feb 13 00:11 |
oiaohm | and from android | Feb 13 00:11 |
gnufreex | they started doing that regularly in 2009 | Feb 13 00:11 |
gnufreex | before that, it was almost nothng | Feb 13 00:11 |
txdv | not many people care about these things | Feb 13 00:11 |
gnufreex | Greg KH tried to convince them many times | Feb 13 00:12 |
oiaohm | But items like the design wakelocks and and android frame buffer failed Linux kernel design. gnufreex | Feb 13 00:12 |
gnufreex | They only started listening in 2009 | Feb 13 00:12 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: One problem. | Feb 13 00:12 |
oiaohm | What managment system for ther code do you think google was still using for there kernel upto 2009 | Feb 13 00:12 |
oiaohm | there kernels. | Feb 13 00:13 |
gnufreex | Perforce | Feb 13 00:13 |
oiaohm | Nop | Feb 13 00:13 |
oiaohm | CVS | Feb 13 00:13 |
oiaohm | CVS kinda does not play well with GIT. | Feb 13 00:13 |
oiaohm | Yes the CVS usage goes all the way back to 1998 | Feb 13 00:13 |
gnufreex | I remember torvald's talk at Google (there is video on youtube), he was try to talk them into droping perforce for Git. | Feb 13 00:13 |
oiaohm | perforce was being used for google libc and other projects. | Feb 13 00:14 |
gnufreex | maybe. Not sure about that. | Feb 13 00:14 |
oiaohm | And google guys were not owning up to Linus what they were running either. | Feb 13 00:14 |
oiaohm | But kinda came obouse in 2009 when patches started coming in. | Feb 13 00:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Enough hacking. Off to bed... | Feb 13 00:15 | |
txdv | he was actually talking about how much cvs and svn sucks | Feb 13 00:15 |
oiaohm | The process was CVS to perforce then to git was what google was doing. | Feb 13 00:15 |
gnufreex | txdv: Yes. Did you see the video? | Feb 13 00:15 |
txdv | yeah | Feb 13 00:15 |
oiaohm | But sanity has taken over at google. | Feb 13 00:15 |
gnufreex | He also tried to pitch git | Feb 13 00:15 |
oiaohm | And they have moved there kernel trees to git | Feb 13 00:15 |
oiaohm | Problem is git allows forking more than CVS | Feb 13 00:16 |
txdv | how is that a problem? | Feb 13 00:16 |
oiaohm | With google internal staff forking is something they will do. | Feb 13 00:16 |
txdv | I though GNU people love diversity | Feb 13 00:16 |
gnufreex | txdv what problem? | Feb 13 00:16 |
oiaohm | Diversity is fine as long as it making it way back upstream. | Feb 13 00:16 |
txdv | "Problem is git allows forking more than CVS" | Feb 13 00:17 |
oiaohm | Forking and failure to return up stream over and over again slowly weakens you location. | Feb 13 00:17 |
txdv | this is complete and utter bullshit | Feb 13 00:17 |
txdv | the lack of upstream is not an issue of the technology | Feb 13 00:17 |
oiaohm | Git does allow forking of tree without kicking person in teeth as much with maintanice issues. | Feb 13 00:18 |
gnufreex | Forking just for sake of forking is problem. | Feb 13 00:18 |
oiaohm | CVS if you fork off you kinda run into hell trying to merge updates | Feb 13 00:18 |
oiaohm | So forking with CVS turns really really painful. | Feb 13 00:18 |
gnufreex | Yeah, CVS is crap | Feb 13 00:18 |
gnufreex | Not just because of that | Feb 13 00:19 |
MinceR | can't you just turn cvs commits into git commits and then merge them? | Feb 13 00:19 |
oiaohm | That is very messy. MinceR | Feb 13 00:19 |
txdv | actually not messy at all | Feb 13 00:20 |
oiaohm | You have to be able to map back to the existing git commits. | Feb 13 00:20 |
txdv | You just need to checkout the entire svn repo which is slow | Feb 13 00:20 |
oiaohm | Git makes the process of merging very clean. txdv | Feb 13 00:20 |
txdv | yeah i know | Feb 13 00:20 |
oiaohm | when its git to git | Feb 13 00:20 |
txdv | no need to tell me that | Feb 13 00:20 |
oiaohm | So what I call messy it compared to git to git | Feb 13 00:21 |
txdv | what is actually interesting is that gnufreex thinks that easy forking is not good | Feb 13 00:21 |
gnufreex | txdv no I didn't said that | Feb 13 00:21 |
oiaohm | Forking is ok as long as the forks merge or the weak forks die off. | Feb 13 00:21 |
oiaohm | What is bad is when forks just keep on growing like a plague. | Feb 13 00:22 |
oiaohm | That google is having issues with. | Feb 13 00:22 |
gnufreex | I just said that forking just because of forking should be discouraged. But now with vesion control system. I think should be socialy discouraged txdv | Feb 13 00:22 |
txdv | oiaohm: so the existence of all the linux distributions is bad? | Feb 13 00:22 |
oiaohm | Fork with 1 developer behind it is not good. txdv | Feb 13 00:22 |
oiaohm | It simply a case of too few devolpers to audit there work. | Feb 13 00:23 |
oiaohm | Fedora has a very good upstream policy so they don't run into the too few developer issue. txdv | Feb 13 00:23 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu and Debian and a lot of other developers suffer from it. | Feb 13 00:24 |
oiaohm | Leading to quality problems. | Feb 13 00:24 |
txdv | doesnt debian suffer from ubuntu? | Feb 13 00:24 |
oiaohm | Debian issues predate Ubuntu. | Feb 13 00:24 |
oiaohm | Debian has improved in recent years. | Feb 13 00:24 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu has got more and more worse. | Feb 13 00:25 |
txdv | :D | Feb 13 00:25 |
oiaohm | But the same basic issue exists. 1 maintainer taken care of 1 package applying what ever patch they think is good. | Feb 13 00:25 |
txdv | What so bad about Ubuntu? | Feb 13 00:25 |
oiaohm | Without checking with upstream. | Feb 13 00:26 |
oiaohm | Classic example is jackaudio and wine having major issues on the current release Ubuntu kernels. | Feb 13 00:26 |
oiaohm | Due to a prototype performance boosting patch being merged. | Feb 13 00:26 |
oiaohm | But it requires other software to work that Ubuntu does not have. | Feb 13 00:26 |
oiaohm | That upstream maker of the code said would not be released for another 3 months yet. | Feb 13 00:27 |
txdv | freaking animals | Feb 13 00:27 |
txdv | what were they thinking | Feb 13 00:27 |
oiaohm | And that is not unique for a single maintainer taken care of a package that is not working with upstream. | Feb 13 00:28 |
oiaohm | Its highly common accross all distributions maintainers. txdv | Feb 13 00:28 |
txdv | so what is the best distribution from your point of view? | Feb 13 00:28 |
cubezzz | the one you make yourself :) | Feb 13 00:29 |
txdv | :D | Feb 13 00:29 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: really that can be the worst if you are stupid. | Feb 13 00:29 |
Faither | lol | Feb 13 00:29 |
sebsebseb | txdv: PC Linux OS is one of the best right now, unless wanting Gnome Shell or Unity | Feb 13 00:29 |
txdv | Because you can apply whatever patch you want to :D | Feb 13 00:29 |
cubezzz | I like Debian Lenny actually | Feb 13 00:29 |
cubezzz | and FC1, and BL3 | Feb 13 00:29 |
cubezzz | depends on the hardware I'm using | Feb 13 00:29 |
oiaohm | Debian has been weeding out there solo maintainers not doing the right thing. | Feb 13 00:29 |
sebsebseb | txdv: or KDE 4.6 for that matter, which they aren't doing just yet since some bugs in it | Feb 13 00:30 |
oiaohm | People are not aware that Ubuntu formed when Debian started weeding out bad maintainers. | Feb 13 00:30 |
oiaohm | Fedora weeding out bad maintainers first. | Feb 13 00:30 |
txdv | Whats so good about pclinuxos? | Feb 13 00:30 |
cubezzz | for example, let's say you only had 16 megs of memory... | Feb 13 00:30 |
txdv | The name is kinda interesting :D | Feb 13 00:30 |
cubezzz | then BL3 is a good choice | Feb 13 00:30 |
sebsebseb | txdv: well it was forked from Mandriva | Feb 13 00:30 |
oiaohm | txdv: basically what you need to check is the packaging policy. | Feb 13 00:30 |
sebsebseb | txdv: back in 2007 | Feb 13 00:30 |
oiaohm | txdv: do they have a upstream first policy | Feb 13 00:31 |
sebsebseb | txdv: was quite popular for a while as well, and it's a rolling release | Feb 13 00:31 |
sebsebseb | txdv: keeps up to date with later versions of packages, however they are very so much about stability and that | Feb 13 00:31 |
oiaohm | txdv: if they don't the distribution quaility will be more suspect than it should be. | Feb 13 00:31 |
Faither | I like the KISS approach of archlinux | Feb 13 00:31 |
cubezzz | the fact of the matter is software creep will always occur | Feb 13 00:31 |
sebsebseb | txdv: it's not like ArchLinux for example which is yep a rolling release, but one that keeps on getting the very latest versions of packages | Feb 13 00:31 |
oiaohm | arch is one that does not tollerage non upstream patches. | Feb 13 00:31 |
oiaohm | Fedora and arch are fairly equal on quality. | Feb 13 00:32 |
sebsebseb | txdv: and they support six desktops offically and are a 100% community distro :) | Feb 13 00:32 |
Diablo-D3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb5c9n3nIJM | Feb 13 00:32 |
sebsebseb | txdv: and all that, http://pclinuxos.com | Feb 13 00:32 |
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sebsebseb | txdv: for now I run this on here, other computer is still Mandriva | Feb 13 00:32 |
cubezzz | slitaz isn't bad on 256 megs of mem | Feb 13 00:32 |
sebsebseb | txdv: I'll probably end up putting Fedora 15 on here in May or something, since Gnome 3, and I guess even Unity in the repos :D | Feb 13 00:32 |
oiaohm | txdv: basically when you know that forked to far is bad. That maintainers working upstream reduce fork issues. You know what to look for to sort the good the bad and the ugly distributions from each other. | Feb 13 00:33 |
txdv | im using "awesome window manager" | Feb 13 00:33 |
sebsebseb | txdv: and I may give Ubuntu 11.04 development versions more of a try on here for real on pshyhicall hardware before then, not sure | Feb 13 00:33 |
sebsebseb | txdv: yep you can install awesome into PCLOS of course | Feb 13 00:33 |
Faither | archlinux aswell xD | Feb 13 00:34 |
txdv | the main thing i like about debian is that there are ashitload of packages | Feb 13 00:34 |
sebsebseb | txdv: uhmm it's like that for most Desktop Linux distros really | Feb 13 00:34 |
txdv | especially all the dev packages | Feb 13 00:34 |
cubezzz | debian is good if you're into shortware too | Feb 13 00:34 |
sebsebseb | cubezzz: shortware ? | Feb 13 00:34 |
txdv | sebsebseb: i tried archlinux, it had no dev packages whatsoever | Feb 13 00:35 |
cubezzz | er, shortwave radio I mean | Feb 13 00:35 |
MinceR | it also has no docs | Feb 13 00:35 |
MinceR | in the packages | Feb 13 00:35 |
oiaohm | txdv: source code that makes binarys has no dev packages either | Feb 13 00:35 |
Faither | if you want docs in packages you can build them with abs with a few keystrokes | Feb 13 00:35 |
oiaohm | txdv: dev packages are distrobution inventions. | Feb 13 00:35 |
Faither | under archlinux | Feb 13 00:36 |
MinceR | i want them in by default | Feb 13 00:36 |
cubezzz | btw, does any distro come with _all_ the source? | Feb 13 00:36 |
txdv | oiaohm: well it makes my life easier | Feb 13 00:36 |
Faither | Linux from scratch? xD | Feb 13 00:36 |
MinceR | many distros have official source packages | Feb 13 00:36 |
MinceR | when i got RH7, there was a disc that had source code, iirc | Feb 13 00:36 |
cubezzz | I mean why use FOSS if you don't ever use the source luke? | Feb 13 00:36 |
oiaohm | There are a few. cubezzz | Feb 13 00:36 |
MinceR | of course, Gentoo would have to come with the sources | Feb 13 00:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mexican & Colombian cables http://alturl.com/i9wtf !wl | Feb 13 00:36 | |
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MinceR | same with SourceMage and other source-based distros | Feb 13 00:36 |
oiaohm | crux also MinceR | Feb 13 00:37 |
Faither | And with ABS you can run archlinux in gentoo mode aswell xD | Feb 13 00:37 |
cubezzz | there's stuff in FC1 I'd never used, even after 7 years | Feb 13 00:37 |
cubezzz | device drivers for tape drives... | Feb 13 00:38 |
txdv | tape drives are awesome | Feb 13 00:39 |
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cubezzz | ok, but nothing can touch my Quantum Maverick :) | Feb 13 00:39 |
cubezzz | still works after 17 years | Feb 13 00:39 |
cubezzz | 300 milliwatts, not really too efficient though :) | Feb 13 00:40 |
cubezzz | actually I'm not sure how that compares to modern hard drives | Feb 13 00:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera "State security" is more a magic cudgel | Feb 13 00:41 | |
Faither | okay i'm a goner xD | Feb 13 00:41 |
Faither | gn8 | Feb 13 00:42 |
cubezzz | later | Feb 13 00:42 |
Faither | didn't realize it was 2 am | Feb 13 00:42 |
Faither | well... almost | Feb 13 00:42 |
Faither | n8 | Feb 13 00:42 |
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qu1j0t3 | 300mW ? | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | modern hard drive is < 10 Watts | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | like min 2W in idle | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | iirc | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | i forget the actual figures, check the WD Green drives | Feb 13 00:50 |
cubezzz | qu1j0t3, ok but this drive is like 230 megs | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | wattage depends on cache size | Feb 13 00:50 |
qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: that doesn't seem right at all | Feb 13 00:51 |
cubezzz | qu1j0t3, it's printed right on the top of the drive | Feb 13 00:51 |
qu1j0t3 | odd | Feb 13 00:51 |
cubezzz | I'll see if I can find a pic | Feb 13 00:53 |
qu1j0t3 | i can't see how it could be 300mW in any mode | Feb 13 00:53 |
cubezzz | http://kraftsound.com/oscommerce_st/catalog/images/Maverick365AT.jpg | Feb 13 00:53 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Meego is pretty nice in live mode, can't find the logout / shutdown menu though :/ | Feb 13 00:53 | |
cubezzz | oops | Feb 13 00:54 |
cubezzz | sorry, milliamps | Feb 13 00:55 |
cubezzz | my mistake | Feb 13 00:55 |
cubezzz | the print is very small | Feb 13 00:55 |
qu1j0t3 | yeah that makes sense | Feb 13 00:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm, pressing the poweroff button to trigger the menu is a new idea | Feb 13 00:56 | |
cubezzz | Maxtor acquired Quantum and then Seagate acquired Maxtor in 2006 | Feb 13 01:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: Great portal about Internet #censorship counter-measures: http://www.sesawe.net/ | #Anonymous | Feb 13 01:10 | |
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qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: nice antique, keep hold of it | Feb 13 01:11 |
cubezzz | I'm still using it :) | Feb 13 01:11 |
qu1j0t3 | :) | Feb 13 01:11 |
cubezzz | still remember paying $1360 for my first amiga hard drive | Feb 13 01:12 |
cubezzz | back then, it was a big deal to have an amiga 500 with a bootable hard drive | Feb 13 01:12 |
cubezzz | back in 1987 or 1988 | Feb 13 01:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: Can somebody explain why political parties are exempt from “truth in advertising” requirements of the CCAS? #cdnpoli | Feb 13 01:13 | |
MinceR | gn | Feb 13 01:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Suleiman promised to stop Gaza elections http://alturl.com/hcqyu !wl | Feb 13 01:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rbonifaz/@rbonifaz] Aquí un cable de !wikileaks que habla de !ecuador, #texaco y el #yasuní http://cablesearch.org/cable/view.php?id=08BRASILIA1572&hl=texaco | Feb 13 01:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] First and last valentine of the year. Back to soldering #toobusytocare #singleandlovingit | Feb 13 01:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: Man who says #Ottawa police broke his nose cleared of all charges: http://bit.ly/fJ14nJ #cdnpoli | Feb 13 02:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter #Ottawa police broke his nose and then charged him? Nice of them to drop charges... Police wonder why we don't trust them? | Feb 13 02:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Did you read what the judge said? | Feb 13 02:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] This is so much better than CNN http://ur1.ca/388q2 | Feb 13 02:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Many new cables for Brazil http://alturl.com/2wmcn !wl | Feb 13 02:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Speak out against the PATRIOT Act! We need your voice now more than ever. https://eff.org/r.5yd | Feb 13 02:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter That the judge didn't believe the officers? | Feb 13 02:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange's 2008 essay "The Hidden Curse of Thomas Paine" eerily prophetic in hindsight http://is.gd/qzHqQ2 !wl | Feb 13 02:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Speak out against the PATRIOT Act! We need your voice now more than ever. https://eff.org/r.5yd | Feb 13 02:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] Oh! #nascar taught me a new word tonight: coopetition | Feb 13 03:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] Of course, that is not nearly as cool as @ludost's "engineerd(ing)" #AwesomeNewWords | Feb 13 03:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Yes. When a judge doesn't believe three cops, you know that there's something very wrong. | Feb 13 03:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @atopiary: "HBGary has no official position on security. Please do not comment to the press on security. We know nothing about security." | Feb 13 03:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: At the Habitat For Humanity Valentine's Fundraiser, Huntsville, Muskoka... http://yfrog.com/h49fvbrj | Feb 13 03:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @therealjanisian: Quote of the day: "I don't deserve this award, but I have arthritis and I don't deserve that either." --Jack Benny | Feb 13 03:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Yes. Something is very wrong indeed. Interestingly, the police were somewhat out of hand in #egypt too. | Feb 13 03:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Never mind in United States, and England, and too many other places. | Feb 13 03:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @AnonyOps Thinly veiled fascism from Ann coulter. CPAC audience applauds when she says more journalists s/b jailed. http://ur1.ca/389js | Feb 13 05:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @DemocracyCanada: Man who says #Ottawa police broke his nose cleared of all charges: http://bit.ly/fJ14nJ #cdnpoli | Feb 13 05:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @DemocracyCanada: Can somebody explain why political parties are exempt from “truth in advertising” requirements of ... | Feb 13 05:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gouki/@gouki] New !wl #cables relased regarding #brasil http://wikileaks.ch/reldate/2011-02-13_0.html | Feb 13 05:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] Can I pass data between pages (on the same domain) with Javascript using HTML5's local storage feature? | Feb 13 05:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Elop is after me http://ur1.ca/383ts bureaucrats who destroy, not create. #microsoftClient #entryism #elop | Feb 13 05:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks : #Suleiman promised to stop Gaza elections http://ur1.ca/389oc so much for will of the people... | Feb 13 05:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ahannula: Nokia CEO has 261302 Microsoft shares and 0 Nokia shares. Quite funny, isn't it? http://t.co/xr684Rs #nokia #in #microsoft | Feb 13 05:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The honourable @csmart has just relaunched #Kororaa , the first live distro to come with 3-D out of the box http://kororaa.org | Feb 13 05:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: The honourable @csmart has relaunched #Kororaa , the first live distro to come with 3-D out of the box http://kororaa.org | Feb 13 06:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rms Canadian tar sand oil http://ur1.ca/389df | Feb 13 06:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid Businesscat knows what needs to be done. http://i.imgur.com/WkIrI.jpg | Feb 13 06:05 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cdsmart/status/36665729340145665 | Feb 13 06:05 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @cdsmart: @schestowitz Honourable, or questionable?! ;-) I hope you get to try it some time and let me know what you think.. :-) Cheers! | Feb 13 06:05 |
schestowitz | I might try a new distro at work soon (I used Fedora October-January) | Feb 13 06:06 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Many new cables for Brazil http://wikileaks.ch/reldate/2011-02-13_0.html http://bit.ly/gEWecX | Feb 13 06:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Assange's 2008 essay "The Hidden Curse of Thomas Paine" eerily prophetic in hindsight http://is.gd/qzHqQ2 http://bit.ly/eaMiE4 | Feb 13 06:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] @hazzy Replying to myself, but I figured it out. | Feb 13 06:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] One day I'll learn the words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN62PAKoBfE | Feb 13 06:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why You Need to Have a #Linux LiveCD http://ur1.ca/389yc "avoiding Windows and its infection." | Feb 13 06:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Sees First Update Already http://ur1.ca/389ym development has momentum | Feb 13 06:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Debian Dying? http://ur1.ca/389yq Byfield with a sensationalist headline. *Sigh* | Feb 13 06:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Factors for Open Source Success http://ur1.ca/389zb #germany #gnu #linux #egov | Feb 13 06:35 | |
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gnufreex | http://www.elop.org/ | Feb 13 06:41 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Workspaces come to #Unity 2D http://ur1.ca/38a0w #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 13 06:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] A !MeeGo timeline: What led up to today's #Nokia #Microsoft partnership? http://is.gd/VDukcM #NokMsft | Feb 13 06:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My Photography-Centric #Linux Migration http://ur1.ca/38a27 #photography | Feb 13 06:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #KDE ? http://ur1.ca/38a2h not likely at all | Feb 13 06:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The coming of #GNOME 3 http://ur1.ca/38a2s #gnu #linux | Feb 13 06:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] found a few new #Drupal screencasts http://www.drupaltherapy.com/node/2023 | Feb 13 06:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Revisited: #KDE 4.6 http://ur1.ca/38a3y "de Icaza's support of the Nokia-Microsoft partnership seems to be the last straw, even for me" | Feb 13 07:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Stable Release Of #Mageia In June: Exclusive Interview http://ur1.ca/38a4g #mandriva #gnu #linux #france | Feb 13 07:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] First open hardware definition has been released http://is.gd/1HkOVP /cc: !qihardware !openhardware | Feb 13 07:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Three little zillas from Taiwan http://ur1.ca/38a5g good stuff to know. #Taiwan #gnu #linux | Feb 13 07:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ingredients http://ur1.ca/38a5r one picture says it all. #qt #meego #gtk #gnu | Feb 13 07:10 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/64376315 | Feb 13 07:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @gabe's status on Sunday, 13-Feb-11 06:43:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The title and the conclusion bother me. "Debian will probably keep going for a few more years." As if the project can't adapt | Feb 13 07:10 |
schestowitz | indeed | Feb 13 07:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] EFF wants you to know about the Patriot Act extension bill https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=461 | Feb 13 07:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cuba Announces Migration to Open-Source Software http://ur1.ca/38a62 "More than 8,000 computers at the University of Computer Sciences" | Feb 13 07:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Stephen #Elop chants 'Developers, developers, developers' to close Nokia World http://is.gd/nc6wER #15sep2010 | Feb 13 07:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] and they didn't see this one coming? oh please... the guy was already much up to this from his appointment. | Feb 13 07:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Slap Upside The Head: "Harper Votes Against Trans Rights Bill" http://ur1.ca/38a98 | Feb 13 07:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Elop is after me http://ur1.ca/383ts /cc: !Qt | Feb 13 07:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New articles in Spanish at !techrights http://ur1.ca/38adc http://ur1.ca/38add http://ur1.ca/38ade http://ur1.ca/38adf | Feb 13 07:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jim Zemlin: "The Linux Foundation is disappointed in Nokia’s decision" http://ur1.ca/38ag4 Miguel de Icaza is excited about it, though. | Feb 13 08:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @gbraad Elop is after me http://ur1.ca/383ts | Feb 13 08:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miguel de Icaza chatting with anti-Linux people who lobby for Microsoft interests http://ur1.ca/38agf | Feb 13 08:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz Jim Zemlin: "The Linux Foundation is disappointed in Nokia’s decision" http://ur1.ca/38ag4 Miguel de Icaza is excited ab ... | Feb 13 08:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AIG: Corporate Welfare King Mouths Off http://ur1.ca/38agu AIG, which stole from the public, says the public deserves nothing | Feb 13 08:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Thanks, Miguel. That's what I thought. http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/36114380802228224 | Feb 13 08:06 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @migueldeicaza: @FOSSpatents They made a "call for patents" because they have not found anything that WebM infringes. | Feb 13 08:06 |
amarsh04 | schestowitz, remember that de Icaza appeared in the movie "Antitrust" | Feb 13 08:14 |
schestowitz | Did he? | Feb 13 08:14 |
schestowitz | I heard of the film... | Feb 13 08:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Neil Tyson - Human Intelligence? http://ur1.ca/38aii #iq | Feb 13 08:15 | |
schestowitz | What was he on about... how Microsoft was all innocent? | Feb 13 08:15 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Daily Motion to stream Live news from Al Jazeera, BBC etc http://ur1.ca/38aiy | Feb 13 08:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Nokia workers walk out after hearing about the deal with Microsoft: http://ur1.ca/37rss | Feb 13 08:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] huh? RT @migueldeicaza Today Nokia announced it will do more patent monetization. If they have anything RHT needs, could be fun ;-) #fb | Feb 13 08:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Recharging !android phone. Battery completely dead after a night of app-shenanigans including; Drum Kit, Big Fart Button, !lastfm player :) | Feb 13 08:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @richslxh Nokia workers walk out after hearing about the deal with Microsoft: http://ur1.ca/37rss | Feb 13 08:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay you RD'd it erroneously. It's Microsoft Florian who wrote this to the Microsoft MVP (de Icaza). | Feb 13 08:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft may want to 'pull a CPTN' on Nokia. Elop won't prevent this. | Feb 13 08:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 13/2/2011: Cuba’s GNU/Linux Migration, New Mageia Interview http://ur1.ca/38an6 !techrights | Feb 13 08:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 13/2/2011: Cuba’s GNU/Linux Migration, New Mageia Interview http://ur1.ca/38an6 #techrights | Feb 13 08:35 | |
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amarsh04 | de Icaza was an "open source" person who appeared briefly in the movie having his hand shaken by Scott McNealy | Feb 13 08:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just rescued half a Rich Tea biscuit from drowning in my coffee, if it involved diving in I'd count myself as a hero, but it was a spoon :/ | Feb 13 08:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Reported #regressions 2.6.38-rc4-git5: From 2.6.37 (18 unresolved) http://bit.ly/h9TFGx 2.6.36 -> 2.6.37 http://bit.ly/ghNSeE (30 unresolv.) | Feb 13 08:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] DAMNIT! Why did I buy the suicidal packet of Tea biccies? WHY? They're rejecting me, determined to drown in the coffee :(( | Feb 13 08:56 | |
schestowitz | amarsh04: hehe | Feb 13 08:57 |
schestowitz | McNealy and .NET booster? | Feb 13 08:58 |
amarsh04 | yes... | Feb 13 08:58 |
gnufreex | McNealy... he is Microsoft hater | Feb 13 08:58 |
gnufreex | Not .NET booster | Feb 13 08:58 |
gnufreex | He was .NET buster | Feb 13 08:59 |
schestowitz | De Icaza... | Feb 13 08:59 |
schestowitz | [08:36] <amarsh04> de Icaza was an "open source" person who appeared briefly in the movie having his hand shaken by Scott McNealy | Feb 13 08:59 |
gnufreex | ah... | Feb 13 09:00 |
gnufreex | What movie? | Feb 13 09:01 |
amarsh04 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_%28film%29 | Feb 13 09:02 |
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gnufreex | tnx | Feb 13 09:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @schestowitz hmm. mea culpa then ;p | Feb 13 09:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cool !debian squeeze wallpaper on deviantart: http://madeinkobaia.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2teva3 | Feb 13 09:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RD WikiLeaks: Suleiman promised to stop Gaza elections http://is.gd/R2EBqp !Palestine via @schestowitz #warondemocracy | Feb 13 09:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] hokay sleep time. ASU/UA game tomorrow, and some homeworkin'... Fun stuff | Feb 13 09:15 | |
*amarsh04 wonders how many have already said that microsoft eloped with and is ... nokia | Feb 13 09:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: Min© apaga do seu site seminários sobre direito autoral: http://www.trezentos.blog.br/?p=5549 #MInc | Feb 13 09:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Those biscuits were obviously abused as ingredients. | Feb 13 09:18 | |
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schestowitz | For ages | Feb 13 09:19 |
schestowitz | Since months ago | Feb 13 09:19 |
schestowitz | The Register was when I first saw it | Feb 13 09:20 |
schestowitz | From Gavin Clarke | Feb 13 09:20 |
schestowitz | But that was when he left Microsoft | Feb 13 09:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @birgittaj Anarchy means "without leaders"; not "without order". | Feb 13 09:20 | |
schestowitz | They say he eloped (not WITH Ballmer) | Feb 13 09:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia new strategic direction. What is the future for #Qt? - http://bit.ly/eDv1IT i.e, nasty, brutish and short | Feb 13 09:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Brazilian Min. of ©ult removes from its site records of years of public debates on copyright reform http://ur1.ca/38axg ♻@ufa #MInc | Feb 13 09:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Telegraph: Egyptian 'torturers' trained by FBI http://ur1.ca/3662a !WikiLeaks !cablegate | Feb 13 09:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft, #Nokia, and #MeeGo: Are they all doomed? - http://bit.ly/hiL5kC makes some excellent points | Feb 13 09:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Our World, Slowed Down 100 Times - http://on.mash.to/fA9r8Z moments of surprising grace and beauty in the quotidian #video | Feb 13 09:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Microsoft, #Nokia, and #MeeGo: Are they all doomed? - http://bit.ly/hiL5kC makes some excellent points | Feb 13 09:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera maybe, although I don't want to have to counsel them before waterboarding them in boiling coffee | Feb 13 09:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cuba Announces Migration to Open-Source Software - http://bit.ly/i76qYk El pueblo unido jamás será vencido #cuba #gnulinux | Feb 13 09:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Utah quake: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/39.41.-113.-111.php | Feb 13 09:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Utah quake had 2.8 magnitude. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/uu00005927.php | Feb 13 09:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @glynmoody So Nokia just practically said "we have bright future for Qt.. until we phase out Symbian. Then is all .NET and WP7". #elopolypse | Feb 13 09:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Telegraph: #Algeria shuts down internet and #Facebook as protest mounts http://ur1.ca/38azu #democracy #PeacefulProtest | Feb 13 09:35 | |
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schestowitz | http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=2212078 "Yea, Techrights has several cases where ex-Microsoft people that was hired recently led the company to add a MS stack as an option. It is interesting that an issue that was discussed there years ago has become more widely discussed recently." | Feb 13 09:35 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Mostafa Boshashi, head of Algerian League for Human Rights, said: "Algerians want their voices to be heard too. They want democratic change" | Feb 13 09:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Nokia tell Qt developers to stay. They need them until Symbian is phased out. Then they'll show them door. http://ur1.ca/3893v | Feb 13 09:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tony Blair, Middle East envoy... The alcoholic in charge of the brewing industry. | Feb 13 09:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Blair is banging on about how bad Iran is just for a change. He must still think he is in front of the Chilcott inquiry. | Feb 13 09:55 | |
schestowitz | tessier: I think Varnish serves for "/" (root) 503 for some odd reason like poisoned cache. Is that possible? been going on for half an hour or so. | Feb 13 09:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Nokia isn't Elop's first victim. #elopolypse http://piacentini.blog.br/2011/02/elop-is-after-me/ | Feb 13 09:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it just me, or does #Firebug become fucking useless when you move the pointer to the panel to scroll the properties and it deselects? | Feb 13 09:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] http://www.elop.org/ #elopolypse | Feb 13 09:57 | |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/ | Feb 13 10:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 13 10:06 |
schestowitz | Error... | Feb 13 10:06 |
schestowitz | I think bad cache and I can't access the varnish cache | Feb 13 10:06 |
schestowitz | Hopefully the cache will expire shortly | Feb 13 10:07 |
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schestowitz | OK, cache cleared | Feb 13 10:09 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: hi | Feb 13 10:09 |
schestowitz | What would you do if a cache server gets an error page and then caches that as though that's the page to serve to users? | Feb 13 10:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Egypt, the protesters have been given an IOU and they are not sure if it will be honoured. | Feb 13 10:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @splitbrain: für die Offenlegung der Berliner Wasserverträge gestimmt. Schlimm dass das nicht selbstverständlich ist | Feb 13 10:18 | |
schestowitz | redirect is not the issue then, I guess cache... still a problem | Feb 13 10:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BlenderNation • by Community Reporter: !Blender for #Biology in Boston http://ping.fm/UxjYL | Feb 13 10:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Logging into Minecraft for a bit... | Feb 13 10:25 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fab1IsCZzY | Feb 13 10:27 |
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MinceR | geekings | Feb 13 10:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making breakfast. *sigh* | Feb 13 10:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Fin media is caling for legal action against Elop http://ur1.ca/38bhb | Feb 13 10:35 | |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: Depends on the cache. Touch the new copy so that the date is latter than the date of the error page that is cached. | Feb 13 10:36 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: some cases clearing cache is the only way. | Feb 13 10:37 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: man touch Yes touch is a command not physically touch as some people try to do. | Feb 13 10:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Look at "Top 10 Other Holders: MSFT" http://ur1.ca/38ae1 Elop (Stephen A) 130,026 3.18 M | Feb 13 10:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android applications running on BlackBerry's PlayBook - Gmtennis - Techno News http://ping.fm/AZTug | Feb 13 10:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Extinguishing fires on the Minecraft server. Bloody arsonists.... | Feb 13 10:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just crafted me some axes. Let's contain this fucker..... | Feb 13 10:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The server banded together, extinguished the fire and planted trees. I love the !LO community | Feb 13 11:03 | |
schestowitz | Let me try it... | Feb 13 11:09 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/ | Feb 13 11:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 13 11:10 |
schestowitz | Still not working | Feb 13 11:10 |
gnufreex | Yeah... | Feb 13 11:11 |
oiaohm | Nice its giving a blank page. schestowitz | Feb 13 11:12 |
oiaohm | stories is working schestowitz | Feb 13 11:13 |
schestowitz | it gave varnish sometimes | Feb 13 11:13 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: everything works except it | Feb 13 11:13 |
schestowitz | tessier must be asleep | Feb 13 11:13 |
schestowitz | It's not urgent enough for wake-up | Feb 13 11:13 |
oiaohm | Is that page dynamic or static? schestowitz | Feb 13 11:14 |
oiaohm | static touch the file. | Feb 13 11:14 |
schestowitz | Dynamic | Feb 13 11:14 |
schestowitz | And I cleared all cache | Feb 13 11:14 |
schestowitz | Varnish seems to have improperly cached it or something, that's my guess anyway | Feb 13 11:15 |
oiaohm | And you have tried ssh to server to see if locally it presenting the correct page. schestowitz | Feb 13 11:15 |
schestowitz | And it worked momentarily a short while ago | Feb 13 11:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] To OMG!Ubuntu!, it's called spellcheck. !ffs | Feb 13 11:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] fail. | Feb 13 11:15 | |
oiaohm | schestowitz: Ie forward port 80 on server to some local port using ssh | Feb 13 11:15 |
schestowitz | Let me try... | Feb 13 11:15 |
schestowitz | I'll also try to fetch the page locally | Feb 13 11:15 |
oiaohm | This is a evence based game. schestowitz | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | boycottnovell ~]# cat index.html | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | <!-- Page not cached by WP Super Cache. No closing HTML tag. Check your theme. --> | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | After | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | @boycottnovell ~]# wget techrights.org | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | --2011-02-13 03:15:54-- http://techrights.org/ | Feb 13 11:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 13 11:16 |
schestowitz | Resolving techrights.org... 216.105.40.114 | Feb 13 11:16 |
oiaohm | wget 127.0.0.1 | Feb 13 11:17 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: wget http://127.0.0.1 | Feb 13 11:17 |
oiaohm | From memory it decated hosting now right. schestowitz | Feb 13 11:17 |
oiaohm | Ie I want to see what the appache is spitting out schestowitz | Feb 13 11:18 |
oiaohm | Its really simple to blame the cache when it not. | Feb 13 11:18 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] Experimenting with Afficheur | Feb 13 11:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to kill the last fire near the Flaming Skull now... | Feb 13 11:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Couldn't subscribe to @encyclomundi (from silner@silner.status.net or silner@identi.ca) ? | Feb 13 11:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New Assange interview (video) | SBS http://is.gd/gKbC39 !wl | Feb 13 11:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] marvelous, just seen a tee shirt, people's republic of Cornwall | Feb 13 11:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Extinguished a lot of fire on the Minecraft server. Now off to do the first Rant of Fab & Kuhn with @bkuhn. | Feb 13 11:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody #Microsoft, #Nokia, and !MeeGo: Are they all doomed? - http://bit.ly/hiL5kC makes some excellent points | Feb 13 11:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Pymp - YouTube downloader and video to MP3 converter: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7021 #N900 #Maemo | Feb 13 11:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: Fujitsu Announces Their First MeeGo OS Netbook, It's Really Thin http://nowskip.to/hPhJ1M #MeeGo | Feb 13 11:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: We are getting ready for #MWC11, Visit us at AppPlanet Hall 7 #MWC11, come by our booth | Feb 13 12:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @SlipKoRnSaad RT @MobileCrunch Palm's Ari Jaaksi (Who Previously Lead MeeGo At Nokia) On Nokia Ditching MeeGo http://tinyurl.com/4eqzmhj | Feb 13 12:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Join us for a cocktail hour on Tuesday, Feb 15 and Wednesday, Feb 16 at 5 pm #MWC11 #AppUp | Feb 13 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Starting to get to grips with 8pen it makes sense on a phone !android | Feb 13 12:03 | |
schestowitz | oiaohm: let me try... | Feb 13 12:06 |
schestowitz | wget http://127.0.0.1 outputs the same page | Feb 13 12:07 |
schestowitz | Now it works (at least momentarily) from the Web browser | Feb 13 12:07 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: so direct to apache is giving you a error? | Feb 13 12:11 |
oiaohm | If that is the case the cache is not to blame but something has gone south in the site. | Feb 13 12:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] it strikes me when capitalists talk about democracy they mean people they can do business with | Feb 13 12:13 | |
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gnufreex | schestowitz: Did you see my last few dents. Finish newspapers are predicting a lawsuits against elop and pointing out that he is Microsoft shareholder. | Feb 13 12:26 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 13 12:27 |
schestowitz | Excellent! | Feb 13 12:27 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: correct | Feb 13 12:27 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: what would cause root to act different than anything else? | Feb 13 12:27 |
schestowitz | I've looked around the site a bit, nothing raises similar errors | Feb 13 12:27 |
oiaohm | So you done the basic sanity tests of our test. | Feb 13 12:28 |
oiaohm | ie wget://127.0.0.1/?stories that should be working schestowitz | Feb 13 12:28 |
oiaohm | I keep on forgoting that you are not a full time admin and presume basics. schestowitz | Feb 13 12:29 |
oiaohm | Yes bad of me. | Feb 13 12:29 |
schestowitz | Locally I get the same results as outside the server | Feb 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | i.e. empty page for root and fine page for everything else | Feb 13 12:31 |
oiaohm | Ie ?stories works? | Feb 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | So I guess it's not cache | Feb 13 12:31 |
oiaohm | It has to be some form of site damage. | Feb 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | At one point I tried removing a redirection, but it didn't help | Feb 13 12:31 |
oiaohm | I guess your site is not sitting in a git or equal that you can check for alterations. | Feb 13 12:31 |
schestowitz | No | Feb 13 12:32 |
oiaohm | And you don't have a local reference copy. | Feb 13 12:32 |
oiaohm | this is one of the reasons why was saying to have a local reference copy. | Feb 13 12:32 |
oiaohm | strange things happen and a compare file by file helps a lot. | Feb 13 12:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] steeds meer Nederlanders te vinden op Identi.ca | Feb 13 12:33 | |
schestowitz | It might be DB related | Feb 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | All the WordPress settings go there | Feb 13 12:35 |
schestowitz | I didn't really much anything in the FS before it started happening | Feb 13 12:36 |
schestowitz | I just posted daily links | Feb 13 12:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @gbraad en Nederlands (+ Vlaams)! | Feb 13 12:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @johanvnl Ik zou het niet beter kunnen verwoorden :) http://ur1.ca/38bpq < /cc: !MeeGo "Nokia - Microsoft: a marriage of two 'losers'" | Feb 13 12:38 | |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: what we know is that spordically it works... for like a minute maybe. I can't spot the pattern | Feb 13 12:39 |
schestowitz | but off/on pattern implies it might be something than just outright misconfiguration | Feb 13 12:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NY attorney on Bradley Manning http://is.gd/iDxJAA !wl | Feb 13 12:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @csarven @Google did an excellent !ux job with the Art Project. Where is Louvre Museum? The French don't want to share what they stole? | Feb 13 12:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having lunch with the family. | Feb 13 12:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Scanning [/nokia/dev/symbian, /nokia/dev/meego]... Warning: w32.elop.trojan found. /from: @amanda_lam | Feb 13 12:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @amanda_lam Nokia Corporation, a subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation. (de facto) #nokia #elopocalypse | Feb 13 12:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Community: What now for #MeeGo? Some proposals http://is.gd/gvfzTl #maemo | Feb 13 12:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] what does Jorma Ollila think of this partnership? He actually made #Nokia | Feb 13 13:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Troubleshooting an openvpn connection with @bkuhn. This could be a rant topic in and of itself. :) | Feb 13 13:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Searches from yesterday: "wordpress sex" "hilarious instructions" "devel sex" "wordpress plugin for sex" #sex_math_programming | Feb 13 13:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] Trying to decide if I want to spend the time debugging Adium's "lets make identica unusable if someone mentions you" bug… | Feb 13 13:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Elop is not crazy to hold any Nokia stock http://ur1.ca/38cej | Feb 13 13:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rupertg Interesting finance fact: Stephen A Elop is Microsoft's 7th-largest individual shareholder. http://aol.it/giiS11 >>well, well | Feb 13 13:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-02-13: Document Freedom Day 2011 Don't for a second underestimate the importance of document for... http://wmk.me/h9iA7r | Feb 13 13:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Score one for !moodle: !TeX display works, at least with setenforce 0 on !fedora 14 #selinux | Feb 13 13:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @gnufreex: Nokia tell Qt developers to stay. They need them until Symbian is phased out. Then they'll show them door http://ur1.ca/3893v | Feb 13 13:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Guardian journalist who may have lost accreditation over WikiLeaks back in Moscow http://is.gd/Ya0yY8 !wl | Feb 13 13:26 | |
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schestowitz | zoobab: what's up w/ the EU patent? | Feb 13 13:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Juste recorded the intro episode of #rantofabkuhn. Just a very quick 6 min intro. Now it's on to the first rant... :) | Feb 13 13:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @gerrymoth: RT @meetmeego: A little teaser what awaits you tomorrow: http://bit.ly/eCF8IF #MeeGo #Smartphone #Tablet | Feb 13 13:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @gerrymoth: RT @LinuxBot2: RT @MeeGoExperts: "Comitted to Linux" Blogpost by a Nokia employee working on #MeeGo http://is.gd/ZoFhsG | Feb 13 13:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Using Nokia #N900, TwimGo and big screen TV to keep up with the #mwc tweets http://twitpic.com/3zcwdz | Feb 13 13:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] RT @meegoportal RT @gerrymoth: RT @LinuxBot2: RT @MeeGoExperts: "Comitted to Linux" Blogpost by a Nokia employee working on #MeeGo http: ... | Feb 13 13:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Ahh, that says all... Now, we have a conflict of interests here, Elop will sink Nokia to help his shares in M$. | Feb 13 13:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith I hope there is a law against destroying companies from inside in Finland so they can jail him. If not, they need to make law. | Feb 13 13:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Well, I hope so. Finland seems a lot more serious about white collar crimes than US. If US was serious, Ballmer was already jailed | Feb 13 13:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Is there any sign of a legal challenge? | Feb 13 14:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera I don't know finnish laws, but I expect them to be more serious than US laws. US laws R a joke. | Feb 13 14:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Btw, about QT and KDE, it's time to pull a LibreOffice on Nokia. If we all wait, maybe it will be too late. | Feb 13 14:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith Not sure if Elop even is in Finland. He surely realized that fins would catapult him into Baltic sea if they get a hold of him. | Feb 13 14:06 | |
schestowitz | http://www.olpcmap.net/ Nice.. | Feb 13 14:09 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Just one thing puzzles me: Where were Nokia shareholders minds when they got Elop on board Nokia ? Naivety at its worst | Feb 13 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Just uploaded new binaries of TwimGo 2.7 for Nokia #N8 and #N900 http://is.gd/cDligM dark theme, fixes, settings, etc. | Feb 13 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Wrote a short blog post of new TwimGo 2.7 release: http://bit.ly/twimgo27 #Qt #QML #N900 #E7 #N8 | Feb 13 14:10 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.com/2011/02/07/apple_ipad_tomorrow_people/ | Feb 13 14:12 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @agentsmith maybe it's unnecessary.... because: "KDE Free Qt Foundation" http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php | Feb 13 14:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith It seems that few largest Nokia shareholders are US based and are also M$ shareholders. A clever scheme by M$. | Feb 13 14:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: RT@rupertg Interesting finance fact: Stephen A Elop is Microsoft's 7th-largest individual shareholder. http://aol.it/giiS11 ... | Feb 13 14:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith Probably double shareholders think that MSFT gain would be bigger than nokia's lost. | Feb 13 14:16 | |
schestowitz | http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/402139-we-need-your-help-on-it-security | Feb 13 14:18 |
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schestowitz | "It is the combination of generous sponsorships from companies like Centrify and the contributions from Linux.com community members that help us ensure the site delivers on all matters Linux. " | Feb 13 14:18 |
schestowitz | Blech | Feb 13 14:18 |
schestowitz | Selling out to Microsoft boosters | Feb 13 14:18 |
gnufreex | Linux foundation is corporate shell. It serves as smoke screen for community. People trust it more than corporations and in fact it is worse. | Feb 13 14:19 |
gnufreex | Same with Eclipse and Apache | Feb 13 14:20 |
gnufreex | That was entire point with corporations shunning FSF. They want their sockpuppets and FSF dont want to be a sockpuppet. | Feb 13 14:21 |
gnufreex | Only FSF, SFLC, and Conservancy have credibility with me. | Feb 13 14:21 |
oiaohm | Linux foundation exists to solve employment disputes. | Feb 13 14:22 |
oiaohm | Linus really cannot own to any single company. | Feb 13 14:22 |
oiaohm | One of the main reason for the foundation is to pay Linus | Feb 13 14:22 |
oiaohm | Centrify has been handy to Linux to locate a lot of security flaws. | Feb 13 14:23 |
gnufreex | I don't get, how much money is enough for Torvalds? | Feb 13 14:25 |
gnufreex | All those companies paying him, he must be a bilionaire | Feb 13 14:25 |
oiaohm | That was the problem. | Feb 13 14:25 |
gnufreex | There are more than 100 companies in LF | Feb 13 14:26 |
oiaohm | Linus does not want to be a billionaire | Feb 13 14:26 |
oiaohm | the bids back when the foundation started got to 100 million a year for him. | Feb 13 14:26 |
gnufreex | Ok, so he is not quite a billionaire, but close | Feb 13 14:27 |
oiaohm | He takes what he clases as a fair pay rate for a lead developers. | Feb 13 14:27 |
oiaohm | Ie so he is not a billionare. | Feb 13 14:27 |
oiaohm | What is left over is used to pay for projects that may be helpful to linux. Like meego and LSB. | Feb 13 14:28 |
oiaohm | And then there is the linux.com employment ageence who job is to find good coders without funding. | Feb 13 14:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Ha, 2 turkeys don't make 1 eagle. It's Nokia's demise, without being M$'s salvation. | Feb 13 14:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Feel sorry for the finnish people. | Feb 13 14:28 | |
oiaohm | And match them up with funding so they can work full time. gnufreex | Feb 13 14:28 |
oiaohm | Even if it means the Linux foundation acting as a proxy between many parties. | Feb 13 14:29 |
oiaohm | So lot of Linux rapid development is linked to what the foundation is doing with the money Linus does not want. gnufreex | Feb 13 14:29 |
gnufreex | FSF collected bellow 500k this year | Feb 13 14:29 |
gnufreex | Torvalds didn't deserve any of that | Feb 13 14:29 |
gnufreex | They should fire him and use that money to hire real devs | Feb 13 14:30 |
oiaohm | Remember I said the Linux foundation started because of a bidding war for Linus. | Feb 13 14:30 |
oiaohm | Reason why he did not take it is that he did to believe he should be payed multi millions. | Feb 13 14:31 |
oiaohm | Due to the comunity nature of the project. | Feb 13 14:31 |
oiaohm | FSF employing Linus would have never worked. gnufreex | Feb 13 14:32 |
gnufreex | If he got paid billions he would lose credibilty in community. He wants to be a God so he chose to give up some money to retain deity status. | Feb 13 14:32 |
gnufreex | I was not saying FSF should employ Linus | Feb 13 14:32 |
oiaohm | Big thing is why did all those companies want to own Linus | Feb 13 14:33 |
oiaohm | To control the future of Linux. | Feb 13 14:33 |
oiaohm | and to make sure no other company got him. | Feb 13 14:33 |
oiaohm | Linux foundation has worked out very will really. | Feb 13 14:33 |
oiaohm | Stopped a lot of stupid bidding wars for leads of particular open source projects as well. | Feb 13 14:34 |
oiaohm | Basically FSF and the Linux foundation has two fairly different roles. | Feb 13 14:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Yup, but Qt going BSD style licensing is atrocious at the best... Should be GPL v3 | Feb 13 14:35 | |
oiaohm | FSF exists to push forwards rights. | Feb 13 14:35 |
gnufreex | Yeah, LF is about providing free labour to companies, while FSF is about providing freedom to users. | Feb 13 14:35 |
oiaohm | No LF is not about free labour. | Feb 13 14:35 |
oiaohm | If companies what the ear of Linus they will employ developers. | Feb 13 14:36 |
oiaohm | In the LF employment system. | Feb 13 14:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks in Peru http://elcomercio.pe/impresa/ !wl | Feb 13 14:37 | |
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oiaohm | LF is a very warped form of job angency matching people with companies. gnufreex | Feb 13 14:37 |
oiaohm | If FSF started doing that its pushing for rights would not look very good. | Feb 13 14:37 |
oiaohm | Basically two different jobs. | Feb 13 14:37 |
gnufreex | What I don't get is why is Torvalds that important? | Feb 13 14:38 |
gnufreex | He is subpar programer, a flameboy personality, and pretty anti-FOSS person | Feb 13 14:38 |
gnufreex | All he did is slap his name on missing piece of GNU | Feb 13 14:39 |
gnufreex | Right place in the right time. | Feb 13 14:39 |
gnufreex | Nothing more. | Feb 13 14:39 |
oiaohm | subpar programmer is not exactly right. Remember Torvalds is a qualified chip designer. | Feb 13 14:39 |
oiaohm | This does make him a good person to have in the mix. | Feb 13 14:40 |
gnufreex | No he's not | Feb 13 14:40 |
oiaohm | He is gnufreex | Feb 13 14:40 |
gnufreex | He worked on x86 emulator at Transmeta | Feb 13 14:40 |
oiaohm | And the chip design that was running on was his. | Feb 13 14:40 |
gnufreex | Transmeta made VLIW processor that emulated x86 | Feb 13 14:40 |
gnufreex | And he was just one of staff tweaking emulator | Feb 13 14:41 |
oiaohm | VLIW processor by Transmeta is Linus | Feb 13 14:41 |
gnufreex | He doesn't design chips. | Feb 13 14:41 |
gnufreex | No it isn't | Feb 13 14:41 |
oiaohm | Linus is on the patents leading to it. | Feb 13 14:41 |
gnufreex | It is dave ditzel and bunch of ex DECies | Feb 13 14:41 |
gnufreex | And some ex SunShiners | Feb 13 14:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Del Castillo pidió apoyo a embajada de EE.UU. para que Lourdes Flores admita derrota http://is.gd/XRc4zN !wl | Feb 13 14:41 | |
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gnufreex | There is nothing really unique about Transmeta chips. | Feb 13 14:42 |
gnufreex | VLIW is invented same time as RISC | Feb 13 14:42 |
gnufreex | Just nobody had luck comercializing it | Feb 13 14:42 |
gnufreex | It is really very simple design | Feb 13 14:43 |
gnufreex | Every software engineer could design VLIW | Feb 13 14:43 |
oiaohm | VLIW used by transmeta had a lot of changes for power management. Those are linus. | Feb 13 14:43 |
oiaohm | Linus Uni course was hardware engineering. | Feb 13 14:44 |
gnufreex | LongRun you mean? | Feb 13 14:44 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: guess what was part of Linus uni course design your own VLIW chip. | Feb 13 14:44 |
oiaohm | Yes some of the LongRun tech comes straight out of what Linus did at uni | Feb 13 14:45 |
gnufreex | I am not sure about that so I won't claim. | Feb 13 14:45 |
oiaohm | Linus had dreams of being a hardware designer. | Feb 13 14:45 |
gnufreex | But I know that most of VLIW design is about compiler | Feb 13 14:45 |
oiaohm | And has end up in charge of Linux instead. | Feb 13 14:45 |
gnufreex | And in case of Transmeta, an x86 amulator | Feb 13 14:46 |
oiaohm | Having someone at the top with understanding of circuits has been useful. | Feb 13 14:46 |
oiaohm | Pool of just coders would not have worked as well. | Feb 13 14:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Perú: funcionaria chavista se reunió con Humala para organizar anticumbre 2008 http://is.gd/XRc4zN http://is.gd/ETTRZ3 !wl | Feb 13 14:46 | |
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oiaohm | Each person has to have there own speciality. | Feb 13 14:47 |
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gnufreex | Transmeta was pretty big failure of a company | Feb 13 14:47 |
gnufreex | Let me show you one article about that | Feb 13 14:47 |
gnufreex | Wait a sec | Feb 13 14:47 |
oiaohm | Be aware Transmeta tried to get around the embargo n x86 processor contruction. | Feb 13 14:48 |
oiaohm | By AMD and Intel. | Feb 13 14:48 |
oiaohm | It was a good attempt. | Feb 13 14:48 |
gnufreex | Transmeta initial plan was not x86 CPU. They mainly wanted to make VLIW | Feb 13 14:49 |
gnufreex | Then they thought it is cool to emulate x86 | Feb 13 14:49 |
gnufreex | Becuase VLIW needs to emulate something anyways, | Feb 13 14:49 |
gnufreex | since new VLIW implementation will not be backward compatible | Feb 13 14:50 |
gnufreex | One VLIW CPU can't be compatible with other | Feb 13 14:50 |
gnufreex | unless it is same | Feb 13 14:50 |
gnufreex | so they decided to write abstraction layer | Feb 13 14:50 |
gnufreex | an emulator | Feb 13 14:50 |
gnufreex | then they said: why not emulate x86 ? | Feb 13 14:51 |
gnufreex | Here is nice article about Transmeta Crusoe. http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2003/07/030715_Transmeta/030715_Transmeta.htm | Feb 13 14:53 |
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gnufreex | That article spelled doom of Transmeta | Feb 13 14:53 |
oiaohm | If you read linus uni papers he was way more dreamy at that age. gnufreex | Feb 13 14:53 |
oiaohm | His dream was a cpu that could process any other cpu instruction set. | Feb 13 14:54 |
oiaohm | Not a good dream. | Feb 13 14:54 |
oiaohm | Not that Linus is past making a mistake of grand scale. | Feb 13 14:54 |
gnufreex | That was also my dream at one point. It is not lost yet. See Elbrus | Feb 13 14:54 |
oiaohm | Note I have not said Linus is perfect. | Feb 13 14:55 |
gnufreex | But beleive me, Transmeta wining and surviving would be very bad for FOSS. | Feb 13 14:56 |
oiaohm | the skill set Linus has is a good add to the mix. Since he does have the language to talk to chip designer and coders fairly equally. | Feb 13 14:56 |
gnufreex | You basicaly _have_ to have that piece of software (emulator) that Transmeta would never ever opensource | Feb 13 14:56 |
oiaohm | Basically linus is the type of person you do want at the top of someone developing a OS due to skill set. | Feb 13 14:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !wikileaks !softwarelibre Nos unimos para terminar con la censura http://ur1.ca/38cz3 | Feb 13 14:56 | |
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oiaohm | Also his love of debating stuff out and flame wars over stuff has also being fairly productive. | Feb 13 14:57 |
gnufreex | And Torvalds was defending Transmeta's closed-sourcensess on LKML | Feb 13 14:57 |
oiaohm | Linus does speek his mind. | Feb 13 14:57 |
oiaohm | Even if you don't like it. | Feb 13 14:57 |
gnufreex | That is first time when I had deep dislike for him | Feb 13 14:57 |
oiaohm | Does a project lead have to be liked? gnufreex | Feb 13 14:57 |
gnufreex | He sided with Transmeta against his project | Feb 13 14:58 |
oiaohm | Its not really a requirment of the job. | Feb 13 14:58 |
gnufreex | Hackers wanted emulator | Feb 13 14:58 |
oiaohm | Also what year was the talk on LKML | Feb 13 14:58 |
gnufreex | He provided crazy excuses | Feb 13 14:58 |
gnufreex | like "security" | Feb 13 14:58 |
oiaohm | Pre 2003 before he left transmeta or after? | Feb 13 14:58 |
gnufreex | Like Microsoft | Feb 13 14:58 |
gnufreex | He still worked for them | Feb 13 14:59 |
oiaohm | And how much longer before he left. | Feb 13 14:59 |
oiaohm | Yes the issue about working for some companies. | Feb 13 14:59 |
gnufreex | I think it was 2001 or 2002 | Feb 13 14:59 |
gnufreex | Wait till I find | Feb 13 14:59 |
gnufreex | http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=105606848227636&w=2 | Feb 13 15:00 |
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gnufreex | Read also follow ups | Feb 13 15:01 |
gnufreex | Transmeta refused to document internal instruction set | Feb 13 15:01 |
gnufreex | You basically have to run their emulator and can't write your own | Feb 13 15:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Fujitsu unveils world's first !MeeGo netbook, world barely notices http://is.gd/w7ikJR | Feb 13 15:01 | |
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gnufreex | That shows that Torvalds is not proFOSS person | Feb 13 15:02 |
gnufreex | when he can support that | Feb 13 15:02 |
oiaohm | And next month he no longer worked for Transmeta. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:02 |
gnufreex | I doubt he pushed opensourcing. | Feb 13 15:03 |
oiaohm | we will never fully know. | Feb 13 15:03 |
gnufreex | And he worked for years for them will knowing full well that his fellow hackers will hate closed tech. | Feb 13 15:03 |
oiaohm | But I found it very interesting that inside a month of being questioned he put himself on the open market. | Feb 13 15:03 |
gnufreex | He is not a God that people are painiting him to be. | Feb 13 15:04 |
oiaohm | Really who is perfect. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:06 |
gnufreex | I am not expecting anybody to be perfect, but I hate that person that is not even interested in future of FOSS is being portrayed as poster boy of FOSS world | Feb 13 15:07 |
gnufreex | See his BitKeeper debacle | Feb 13 15:08 |
gnufreex | He defended Larry McVoy | Feb 13 15:08 |
gnufreex | Even when he yanked BK license | Feb 13 15:08 |
gnufreex | And then he atacked Tridge | Feb 13 15:08 |
oiaohm | Remember Tridge and Linus are still friends. | Feb 13 15:09 |
oiaohm | Both have disputed with each other over the years. | Feb 13 15:09 |
schestowitz | I argued with Linux over freedom | Feb 13 15:09 |
schestowitz | *lius | Feb 13 15:09 |
schestowitz | *linus | Feb 13 15:09 |
gnufreex | Linus is in a way, like De Icaza | Feb 13 15:10 |
gnufreex | He just isn't interested in higher level stuff | Feb 13 15:10 |
schestowitz | He does not measure success in the same terms as FSF... | Feb 13 15:10 |
gnufreex | or else he will be boosting Mono | Feb 13 15:10 |
oiaohm | Really we need a person like Linus in the mix. Lets say Linux was run by all freedom loving who did nothing for companies and hardware makers to match there likes. | Feb 13 15:10 |
oiaohm | I know is hard to have a person who fully does not follow the ideas of freedom. | Feb 13 15:11 |
oiaohm | But its one of the reasons Linus is successful. | Feb 13 15:11 |
oiaohm | and Linux has done so well. | Feb 13 15:11 |
gnufreex | Yeah, it is also one of reasons why M$ is sucessful | Feb 13 15:12 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: At times I don't like Linus either. | Feb 13 15:12 |
oiaohm | But I have got to see the importance of what he bring to the table. | Feb 13 15:12 |
oiaohm | TPM stuff has had almost an impossible time getting into BSD like kernels. | Feb 13 15:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] How Old ATI GPUs Can Be Faster On Open Drivers: A few days ago when publishing the results of benchmarking a lot... http://bit.ly/hN5AtA | Feb 13 15:13 | |
gnufreex | Linux trademark is not really that important. | Feb 13 15:13 |
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gnufreex | We can call it Alanix | Feb 13 15:14 |
oiaohm | tivo we might not have liked it but it did give Linux more embed hardware support. | Feb 13 15:14 |
oiaohm | Basically Linus playing to some of these groups short time hurts longterm Linux gains. | Feb 13 15:14 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2011/02/hp-put-linux-printers-and-pc%E2%80%99s-it%E2%80%99s-end-era-windows < to LF's credit | Feb 13 15:15 |
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gnufreex | Now that Nokia is borged, we might not have any Phone to run GNU/Linux | Feb 13 15:15 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: but Linux seen as a safe bet because of its age and backing | Feb 13 15:15 |
gnufreex | All thanks to Torvalds | Feb 13 15:15 |
schestowitz | LibreOffice also did well, unlike some Linux forks | Feb 13 15:15 |
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schestowitz | True, Android has no GNU | Feb 13 15:16 |
schestowitz | Not even real Java | Feb 13 15:16 |
gnufreex | I bet he is happy. Android will be DRM laden Linux without GNU. He finally beats Stallman. | Feb 13 15:16 |
schestowitz | GooglOS | Feb 13 15:16 |
TheMadHatter | Which is a problem with Android. | Feb 13 15:16 |
schestowitz | Hey, Wayne | Feb 13 15:16 |
TheMadHatter | Morning. | Feb 13 15:16 |
TheMadHatter | Was wondering if I could pick your brain. | Feb 13 15:16 |
schestowitz | TheMadHatter: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/leaked_security_firm_documents_show_plans_to_discr.php | Feb 13 15:16 |
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oiaohm | gnufreex: Really no Linus is upset with Andriod. due to the failure to work well with upstream. | Feb 13 15:17 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Linus really does not care about userspace that much. And that is something Stallman had trouble understanding. | Feb 13 15:17 |
schestowitz | TheMadHatter: we're all open-skulled | Feb 13 15:17 |
gnufreex | <oiaohm> gnufreex: Really no Linus is upset with Andriod. due to the failure to work well with upstream. | Feb 13 15:18 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: I didn't get that wibe. He says he loves Android. | Feb 13 15:18 |
TheMadHatter | Thanks. Looking for a list of deat Microsoft partners. | Feb 13 15:18 |
TheMadHatter | and did you see this: | Feb 13 15:18 |
TheMadHatter | http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2011/01/microsoft-fy11q2-results.html | Feb 13 15:18 |
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TheMadHatter | Yep, Anonymous is a hilarious bunch. I gather that they haven't figured out exactly what they are yet. | Feb 13 15:19 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: statements and time frames are critical. Love of android mostly when google was planing to upstream effectively. | Feb 13 15:20 |
TheMadHatter | http://crowdleaks.org/hbgary-wanted-to-suppress-stuxnet-research/ | Feb 13 15:20 |
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TheMadHatter | http://diyblogger.net/the-truth-behind-wikileaks | Feb 13 15:21 |
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gnufreex | Well, he might finally get that those who remove GNU won't play nice with Linux either.... but he will pragmaticaly declare victory since Android at least have mutated Linux. | Feb 13 15:21 |
TheMadHatter | Linux isn't all that bright in some ways. | Feb 13 15:22 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: btw, thanks for nice disscusion. Do I sound too crazy? | Feb 13 15:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] This is an interesting virtual newspaper - culling stuff from #fb - http://www.postpost.com/ | Feb 13 15:23 | |
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TheMadHatter | Sorry, meant to say Linus. | Feb 13 15:23 |
TheMadHatter | He's one hell of a programmer, but he doesn't understand the implications of what's happening. | Feb 13 15:24 |
oiaohm | Interesting how little MS income has gone up for the staff they have lost. | Feb 13 15:24 |
TheMadHatter | Next quarter report is going to be the interesting one. | Feb 13 15:26 |
gnufreex | TheMadHatter: Bruce Perens sumed it up nicely, when he said to Linus that he don't want to do politics but don't want to let other people do it for him. As result, corporations do politicking and have their way. | Feb 13 15:26 |
gnufreex | *as in, Linus don't let politics | Feb 13 15:26 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Not really I understand the way you see him. | Feb 13 15:26 |
TheMadHatter | http://www.boxertech.com/blog/post/Microsoft-Commerce-Server-Dead-or-MIA.aspx | Feb 13 15:27 |
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oiaohm | I have a habit of looking at the bigger picture. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:27 |
oiaohm | of not just linus in isolation. | Feb 13 15:27 |
oiaohm | Basically linus in isolation Linux would not be what it is today. | Feb 13 15:27 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: I have habbit of looking ever bigger picture :-) | Feb 13 15:27 |
schestowitz | TheMadHatter: you need policestatewatch.us too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fab1IsCZzY | Feb 13 15:28 |
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oiaohm | Really mine is over history as well. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:28 |
oiaohm | Of how lot of these bad things played out. | Feb 13 15:28 |
oiaohm | Remember the out cry over the tivo. | Feb 13 15:28 |
gnufreex | whose picture is bigger... mine, no it is mine... :-) | Feb 13 15:28 |
schestowitz | TheMadHatter: more fleeing execs at MSFT. I'll try to cover it tonight. | Feb 13 15:28 |
TheMadHatter | I only have so much time - Police State Watch Canada I can develop on my own. | Feb 13 15:28 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Lot of things work themselves as natual forces of open source take over. | Feb 13 15:28 |
TheMadHatter | Good. Um, so no one has a list of dead Microsoft partners? Best one I've found is from 2003. | Feb 13 15:29 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: grabing onto stuff too tight in the open source world normally puts you behind your competitors. | Feb 13 15:29 |
gnufreex | oiaohm: I used to thnk that, but I don't beleive in natural forces anymore. Not affter seing what Microsoft dark forces do. | Feb 13 15:29 |
gnufreex | Things must be planed and done to offset entrysim | Feb 13 15:30 |
TheMadHatter | BTW, I'm getting Error 503 Service Unavailable from Techrights.org | Feb 13 15:30 |
gnufreex | or we are screwed | Feb 13 15:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: AnonLeaks – How far is too far? 'This is blackmail.' http://www.p2pnet.net/story/48934 | Feb 13 15:30 | |
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oiaohm | Is open source chipping away at MS without very much planning. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:30 |
oiaohm | Yes it is. | Feb 13 15:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cable: European NGOs, social movements and the EU-LatAm summit http://alturl.com/6guyq !wl | Feb 13 15:32 | |
oiaohm | History always has that a dark force over reachs and does something that direct that they no longer can hide. | Feb 13 15:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 13 15:32 |
oiaohm | What MS just did to nokia might be bad enough gnufreex | Feb 13 15:32 |
TheMadHatter | Think of it as Evolution in Action. | Feb 13 15:32 |
oiaohm | There are a lot of natural forces at play. | Feb 13 15:33 |
oiaohm | Its like mpeg la trying to find patents to attack webm because everyone is trying to avoid there patent trap now. gnufreex | Feb 13 15:33 |
oiaohm | Ie over playing there hand. | Feb 13 15:33 |
oiaohm | Going to lead to there doom. | Feb 13 15:33 |
schestowitz | [15:30] <TheMadHatter> BTW, I'm getting Error 503 Service Unavailable from Techrights.org | Feb 13 15:34 |
schestowitz | Yes, I'm waiting for tessier to wake up | Feb 13 15:34 |
schestowitz | Maybe he's up now? | Feb 13 15:34 |
schestowitz | We've had this issue since the morning, all other pages work fine | Feb 13 15:34 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Also some of the court cases in the EU have been because MS actions have been that bad they cannot hide. | Feb 13 15:35 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: these large force effect things takes like for ever to happen. | Feb 13 15:35 |
gnufreex | What they just did with nokia is just one clumsy thing, tip of the ice berg | Feb 13 15:35 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: but when they do they are like a fault line moving. | Feb 13 15:36 |
gnufreex | they done worse | Feb 13 15:36 |
oiaohm | Problem is it take that 1 clumsy thing. | Feb 13 15:36 |
oiaohm | That is that direct and upset enough people to make the rest of the iceberg appear on them. | Feb 13 15:36 |
oiaohm | As why the 1 clumsy thing happenned. | Feb 13 15:36 |
oiaohm | Basically MS has been slowly building a pandoras box. | Feb 13 15:37 |
gnufreex | Most things won't be documented ever. Bull Gates changed email retenttion policy to prevent truth from surfacing again | Feb 13 15:37 |
oiaohm | Question is when it will be opened. | Feb 13 15:37 |
oiaohm | Note its not MS documents alone that contain the evidence. | Feb 13 15:37 |
oiaohm | Google has the right idea. Try not todo evil. | Feb 13 15:38 |
oiaohm | Because one day you have to pay for the evil you have done as a company. | Feb 13 15:38 |
oiaohm | gnufreex: Yes the large invisable forces that build up and its very much like a earthquake. | Feb 13 15:40 |
oiaohm | Nothing Nothing crap our company is toast. | Feb 13 15:40 |
oiaohm | Because no one trusts us at all todo anything. | Feb 13 15:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Rugby Ireland France, padding on the goalposts protrudes over try line, what is situation if ball grounded against padding not over line | Feb 13 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Loving Midnight Commander as a file manager, much nicer than i expected for a command line file manager. !cli | Feb 13 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just recorded 4 epispdes of #rantofabkuhn. That was fun! :) | Feb 13 15:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. *episodes that is... | Feb 13 15:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have finally added Groklaw to rss reader | Feb 13 15:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Lubuntu: Lubuntu’s new theme ‘ozone’ ready for testing http://goo.gl/l1KEo | Feb 13 15:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Natty pimps audio call requests http://goo.gl/wOhla | Feb 13 15:58 | |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: http://blog.laptopmag.com/intel-were-not-blinking-on-meego | Feb 13 16:00 |
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schestowitz | This has me rethink my position of today's Intel | Feb 13 16:00 |
schestowitz | MeeGNU... | Feb 13 16:00 |
gnufreex | It commes with Craptom... I mean Atom | Feb 13 16:01 |
gnufreex | But it has meego | Feb 13 16:01 |
schestowitz | http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2011/02/updates.html | Feb 13 16:01 |
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schestowitz | He quit | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: as long as the can carry on a bit | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | But... | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | Qt is Nokia's | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | And a lot of the OS.. | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | Moblin is there, for sub-notebooks | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | But netbook UX is abandoned, I think | Feb 13 16:02 |
schestowitz | Wafaa said so IIRC | Feb 13 16:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] My !chromium is PIMPED OUT :) | Feb 13 16:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is The President of #Turkey a Movie Pirate? - http://bit.ly/glDkaA time for him to join the Turkish Pirate Party, perhaps... #piracy | Feb 13 16:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Al Jazeera’s Social Revolution (In Realtime) - rightfully a big winner from recent events #egypt #aljazeera | Feb 13 16:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Guy releases his own DNA under a !CC license http://ur1.ca/388d7 | Feb 13 16:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Year of the Hurd: 2010 brought some big improvements http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/news/2010.html | Feb 13 16:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange new SBS interview transcript http://is.gd/rxIcOk !wl | Feb 13 16:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @TechCrunch: Al Jazeera's Social Revolution (In Realtime) http://tcrn.ch/fwtReY by @erickschonfeld | Feb 13 16:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Harvard Library Joins HathiTrust - http://bit.ly/hfQ10d "shared digital repository for published materials" #harvard | Feb 13 16:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @phoronix: How Old ATI GPUs Can Be Faster On Open Drivers http://ff.im/-xVHo2 | Feb 13 16:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gay couples may soon be able to tie the knot in church http://is.gd/VQZ7ML #Britishsociety | Feb 13 16:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] @fabsh Oh man, i used to have 2 HUGE boxes of lego, i LOVED it. :) | Feb 13 16:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Harvard Library Joins HathiTrust - http://bit.ly/hfQ10d "shared digital repository for published materials" #harvard | Feb 13 16:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @kanarip Using the noop I/O Scheduler for KVM Virtualization through Puppet and Augeas http://tinyurl.com/499mvmn | Feb 13 16:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] nice, short piece on "#Circumvention, #anonymity, and #privacy tools" - http://bit.ly/fbf9us from those nice #Tor people | Feb 13 16:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Alexisonfire - Accidents | Feb 13 16:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chamber of Commerce lobbyists solicited firm to investigate opponents’ families, children - http://bit.ly/e1T83V there's a word for that... | Feb 13 16:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] Does anyone on identi.ca actually use #adium #adiumx ? | Feb 13 16:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: nice, short piece on "#Circumvention, #anonymity, and #privacy tools" - http://bit.ly/fbf9us from those nice #Tor people | Feb 13 16:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Is The President of #Turkey a Movie Pirate? - http://bit.ly/glDkaA time for him to join the Turkish Pirate Party, perhaps... | Feb 13 16:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Just rewatched all the Star Wars Movies and now looking for some Stargate SG1, Fringe and V. | Feb 13 16:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Ghent Declaration - http://bit.ly/gDeiRe furthering #openaccess, #opensource and #oer | Feb 13 16:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China activist Chen Guangcheng 'beaten' - http://bbc.in/fNAndQ beating up blind people: gosh, those security forces are so brave... | Feb 13 16:56 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] So farewell to the cheesy phone OS - http://bit.ly/h4VGCB nice bit of #symbian history #psion | Feb 13 16:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovruni/@ovruni] Documentos filtrados demuestran campaña sistemática para acabar con Wikileaks: http://ur1.ca/38dq9 !wikileaks | Feb 13 17:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Executions Are Good, Says Iran’s Chief Justice - http://bit.ly/eDUz13 "Iran is executing one person every eight hours" #iran #deathpenalty | Feb 13 17:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: RT @StopAhmadi: Iran government fear tomorrow's protests. Cell service, Internet and satellite is down #IranElection #25bahman | Feb 13 17:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This time, the people of Haiti may win http://is.gd/k8MpIS #warondemocracy | Feb 13 17:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan LOL :D | Feb 13 17:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: Alright, back on the sauce. #minecraft | Feb 13 17:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PureOS 3.0 released http://pureos.org/ | Feb 13 17:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] good morning coffee! | Feb 13 17:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Qatar Exchange rolls out !RedHat - ITP.net http://ping.fm/4BPqG | Feb 13 17:43 | |
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schestowitz | tessier: ping | Feb 13 17:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] Well, I think I have identified what the issue is with the statusnet support. If I'm right, the last id for replies isn't being updated. | Feb 13 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith Just got a thought. Maybe M$ has deal that makes Samsung and LG switch to 100% WP7 if M$ kills Nokia. That would answer some Qs. | Feb 13 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] Yup, a bit of plist editting seems to have supressed the constantly reappearing mention/reply in Adium. Now to find out why... | Feb 13 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Oh Oh, Kill Nokia to please the koreans ?A bit stretchy, don't you think ? Anyway, Intel better buy Qt and keep it away from Nokia | Feb 13 17:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith It is a bit stretchy, but there surely need to be some cartel at work, it doesn't makes sense otherwise. Numbers don't add up.. | Feb 13 18:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith .. Microsoft simply won't have significant marketshare if they sink Nokia. | Feb 13 18:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith re Qt, I don't think Balmer will let it go. He will want to make a point that Free Software doesn't ensure stability of ecosys. | Feb 13 18:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Yup, but then, Nokia's demise was being fabricated by americans shareholders. Where's the finnish govmt now, is what I wonder | Feb 13 18:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Oh, sure, with so many thugs bent on killing free software, of course it won't survive. But then, there's Google & Intel | Feb 13 18:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UBS Whistleblower Finds Himself in Federal Prison http://ur1.ca/38e5z astonishing - those who commit crime stay free, exposers go to jail | Feb 13 18:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Intel is strongly commited to Meego because of M$'s afair with ARM. So, I believe Intel will go Meego way, just to stay relevant | Feb 13 18:13 | |
DaemonFC | Seamonkey 2.1b2 candidates are being built | Feb 13 18:13 |
*DaemonFC just noticed | Feb 13 18:14 | |
DaemonFC | so much for community project, someone leaned on them to implement the do not track spam | Feb 13 18:14 |
DaemonFC | yet Chatzilla has been broken since October | Feb 13 18:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex I would feel happy if Google would grab Qt. But Elop won't let it happen. Give a competitor a gem like Qt. | Feb 13 18:15 | |
DaemonFC | useless pref proliferation, suddenly everyone has to pollute their user prefs because Firefox did | Feb 13 18:15 |
DaemonFC | privacy is such a hot issue, why don't they build privacy features into their browsers instead of feel good crap? :) | Feb 13 18:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex More likely Elop will let Qt die. So, a FORK, like LibreOffice could be a solution | Feb 13 18:16 | |
DaemonFC | KDE has the right to take over QT and call it QT and license it under a BSD-style license should Nokia drop it from what I understand | Feb 13 18:17 |
DaemonFC | the Free QT Foundation still exists | Feb 13 18:18 |
DaemonFC | Nokia inherited that deal from Trolltech | Feb 13 18:18 |
*DaemonFC doesn't think it should come down to a fork if KDE takes it over | Feb 13 18:19 | |
DaemonFC | and KDE would have to take it over because everything in KDE's software package depends on it | Feb 13 18:19 |
gnufreex | I am not sure that Elop will honour any deal | Feb 13 18:19 |
gnufreex | that would have to be fought through court | Feb 13 18:19 |
gnufreex | With long legal battle | Feb 13 18:19 |
DaemonFC | I don't think KDE is in any danger, either they take it over or they have the dominate fork and just rename it | Feb 13 18:20 |
gnufreex | What if Nokia does as deal says: Release it under BSD | Feb 13 18:20 |
DaemonFC | *dominant | Feb 13 18:20 |
gnufreex | And then demand patent royalties | Feb 13 18:20 |
gnufreex | BSD allows that | Feb 13 18:20 |
gnufreex | It has no patent clause | Feb 13 18:21 |
gnufreex | everything is permited | Feb 13 18:21 |
DaemonFC | then KDE could fork it under the terms of the LGPL | Feb 13 18:21 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 13 18:21 |
gnufreex | Ok, they find few partners to put some cash in BSD version | Feb 13 18:21 |
gnufreex | Fragmentation | Feb 13 18:21 |
DaemonFC | it's granted as LGPL with licensing exceptions now I think | Feb 13 18:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex But then, I hope for the finnish to give Elop the boot, Nokia's shares down 20%. Monday(tomorrow) will be interesting | Feb 13 18:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miguel de Icaza Helps Show He is an Enemy of GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/38e89 he has been very transparent recently, unlike the code he sells | Feb 13 18:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Miguel de Icaza Helps Show He is an Enemy of GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/38e89 #swpats #mono #gnome #nokia #gnu #linux | Feb 13 18:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android tablets in big demand - Trade Arabia http://ping.fm/jbgUv | Feb 13 18:22 | |
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DaemonFC | if you take it as LGPL, you have patent grants | Feb 13 18:22 |
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gnufreex | And then BSD kooks start improving BSD version | Feb 13 18:22 |
DaemonFC | I doubt it | Feb 13 18:22 |
gnufreex | They don't care about patents | Feb 13 18:22 |
DaemonFC | the BSD people pretty much drool all over KDE | Feb 13 18:22 |
gnufreex | the are too smal to be sued | Feb 13 18:22 |
DaemonFC | they'll take it LGPL if KDE does | Feb 13 18:22 |
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gnufreex | and they are hell bent on screwing everying glp | Feb 13 18:22 |
gnufreex | gpl | Feb 13 18:22 |
DaemonFC | you'd be hard pressed to find any actual BSD users that have GNOME | Feb 13 18:23 |
gnufreex | That is why | Feb 13 18:23 |
DaemonFC | it's there, it works just as well as on Linux, it's just usually not used | Feb 13 18:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Ok so if Nokia is nowhere near ready to release a WP7 phone what was the point of jumping ship? #MWC11 #Nokia #MeeGo | Feb 13 18:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Wow, that was one intense flamewar. | Feb 13 18:23 | |
gnufreex | They hope that Qt will be BSD licensed sometimes | Feb 13 18:23 |
gnufreex | And they they will take it | Feb 13 18:23 |
gnufreex | They don't care about tecnology or freedom | Feb 13 18:24 |
DaemonFC | I think KDE is just a better match for the kind of people who tend to use FreeBSD | Feb 13 18:24 |
gnufreex | just screwing GPL | Feb 13 18:24 |
DaemonFC | GNOME is there to placate idiots who are confused by features | Feb 13 18:24 |
DaemonFC | their argument for something being useless is that if they added features, it might confuse their mother | Feb 13 18:25 |
gnufreex | FreeBSD used to be fine just little militant against GPL (as all BSDs) but acceptable. But in recent years, they are like Balmers. Probably due to Microsfot entryism. | Feb 13 18:25 |
gnufreex | They are hiring heavily from BSDs | Feb 13 18:26 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu is going with Banshee because they get to copypaste a bunch of the plug-in code for Amazon MP3 to use as Ubuntu One | Feb 13 18:26 |
gnufreex | And inciting them against GNU/Linux | Feb 13 18:26 |
DaemonFC | it's one less thing they have to maintain | Feb 13 18:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] British Consul Closes Office to Duck Assange Letter http://is.gd/EG0ws6 !wl | Feb 13 18:27 | |
DaemonFC | FreeBSD isn't a bad system | Feb 13 18:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Msft has proven again they can't meet schedules with WP7's update (pushed back 2 month) how does it improve #Nokia devices time to market? | Feb 13 18:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: Afterthought added to my "#MeeGo Limbo" article based on #MWC11 updates: http://bit.ly/dFRv1x | Feb 13 18:27 | |
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gnufreex | FreeBSD is pretty good system. I used it in the past, but I want to thow up when visiting their forums. It became worse than Linsux. | Feb 13 18:28 |
gnufreex | And it is getting even worse with LLVM zealotry. | Feb 13 18:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Gutsy question :) RT @MeeGoExperts: Question: were you a Trojan horse? Board of directors reviewed and accepted the proposal #nokmsft | Feb 13 18:28 | |
DaemonFC | and clang | Feb 13 18:29 |
DaemonFC | they keep wanting to use that but the binaries it produces are dog slow | Feb 13 18:30 |
DaemonFC | they end up using gcc | Feb 13 18:30 |
gnufreex | They vandalized wikipedia with gcc slur | Feb 13 18:30 |
DaemonFC | they'll use GPL/LGPL licensed software when it's better than BSD licensed software | Feb 13 18:30 |
DaemonFC | they don't make an issue about it though | Feb 13 18:30 |
gnufreex | it is removed now becaus it is utter lies | Feb 13 18:30 |
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gnufreex | With OpenBSD, they won't use it when it is better, they only use GPL when there is absolutely no choice. | Feb 13 18:32 |
gnufreex | With FreeBSD | Feb 13 18:32 |
DaemonFC | clang is also behind GCC on features | Feb 13 18:32 |
DaemonFC | the only reason it is around is because it makes them look less dependent on GCC, that's my opinion | Feb 13 18:32 |
gnufreex | FreeBSD used to be more level headed, but it gone down the drain | Feb 13 18:32 |
gnufreex | OpenBSD actually dug out PCC | Feb 13 18:33 |
gnufreex | which is utter crap | Feb 13 18:33 |
DaemonFC | I compiled a Linux kernel with clang just to play with it at one point | Feb 13 18:33 |
gnufreex | no optimizations at all | Feb 13 18:33 |
DaemonFC | it built, but that's the end of anything good I have to say about it | Feb 13 18:33 |
DaemonFC | it was slow and some driver modules caused kernel panics when loaded | Feb 13 18:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Corporations Conduct Smear Campaigns http://ur1.ca/38ear !wikileaks #cablegate #assange | Feb 13 18:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] How Corporations Conduct Smear Campaigns http://ur1.ca/38ear !wikileaks #cablegate #assange | Feb 13 18:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Miguel de Icaza Helps Show He is an Enemy of GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/38e89 #swpats #mono #gnome #nokia #gnu #linux | Feb 13 18:33 | |
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DaemonFC | I think NetBSD are the more reasonable of the BSD projects | Feb 13 18:34 |
DaemonFC | DragonFlyBSD has some neat ideas, and isn't militant | Feb 13 18:34 |
gnufreex | You didn't meet many NetBSD militants then | Feb 13 18:34 |
DaemonFC | for what it is, it's a good system | Feb 13 18:35 |
gnufreex | They are FUDing embeded vendors with GPL scare | Feb 13 18:35 |
DaemonFC | I wouldn't use it on my PC :) | Feb 13 18:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex And in the same day, Google's shares rose 8%. Pretty telling, isn't it ? http://bit.ly/KT4t | Feb 13 18:35 | |
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gnufreex | Look up NetBSD dev interview on OSNEWS | Feb 13 18:35 |
gnufreex | He openly admited that they were mailing mfrs about "dangers of GPL" | Feb 13 18:35 |
gnufreex | And pitching NetBSD | Feb 13 18:36 |
gnufreex | as "solution" | Feb 13 18:36 |
DaemonFC | I didn't see that | Feb 13 18:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Future of WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/8wwob !wl | Feb 13 18:36 | |
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gnufreex | I think it is 2004-5 | Feb 13 18:37 |
gnufreex | There are actually multiple interviews | Feb 13 18:37 |
gnufreex | from multiple devs | Feb 13 18:37 |
gnufreex | I'll try to find some | Feb 13 18:37 |
DaemonFC | some of the BSDs are kind of neat, but they all depend on GPL/LGPL software to be useful | Feb 13 18:37 |
DaemonFC | right down to compiling in the first place | Feb 13 18:37 |
DaemonFC | it's comical that they can be that against it and still use it | Feb 13 18:38 |
gnufreex | They are usualy corporate hacks | Feb 13 18:38 |
DaemonFC | the only noteworthy desktop environment software is LGPL/GPL licensed in whole or significant part | Feb 13 18:39 |
DaemonFC | the only decent optimizing compiler they can use is GCC | Feb 13 18:39 |
DaemonFC | you could probably put together a BSD system without any GPL/LGPL components but it wouldn't be something you'd want to use as a desktop system | Feb 13 18:39 |
gnufreex | They want to incite other people to contribute under BSD so they could take it. They even admited that on LWN.net on article about De Raddts flame over WiFi drivers | Feb 13 18:40 |
DaemonFC | yeah, they have to use NDIS drivers built for Windows in order to have wifi in many cases | Feb 13 18:41 |
DaemonFC | because the drivers are GPL only | Feb 13 18:41 |
DaemonFC | the situation used to be similar in Linux | Feb 13 18:41 |
gnufreex | No, I think this was about Atheros drivers that were ISC licensed | Feb 13 18:42 |
gnufreex | De Raddt didn't like that Linux can use it | Feb 13 18:42 |
DaemonFC | I had to grab a Windows driver to use in Mandrake at one point | Feb 13 18:42 |
DaemonFC | if a driver is BSD, nothing stops Linux from using it under the GPL | Feb 13 18:43 |
DaemonFC | I think what he'd be mad about is a driver licensed GPL in the beginning | Feb 13 18:43 |
DaemonFC | that's a valid thing to be mad about because if it's BSD licensed in the first place, anyone can use it | Feb 13 18:44 |
gnufreex | De Raddt used oportunity to flame linux devs. He claimed it is illegal to take it without asking. And said they Linux devs are stealing thier Freedom | Feb 13 18:44 |
DaemonFC | a hardware enabling driver is one case where I think BSD is preferable | Feb 13 18:44 |
DaemonFC | unless a license says you can only redistribute the stuff under that license (or others specified), you can relicense it | Feb 13 18:45 |
DaemonFC | it's not the Linux developers fault that BSD leaves the licensing issue wide open | Feb 13 18:46 |
DaemonFC | but the reason it leaves the further licensing optional is why I think drivers should be BSD licensed | Feb 13 18:46 |
DaemonFC | anyone can take the code and have same day support | Feb 13 18:46 |
DaemonFC | the problem with a lot of hardware is the firmware they need to load onto the device | Feb 13 18:48 |
DaemonFC | OpenBSD's policy is to exclude it even if it can be redistributed | Feb 13 18:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 with 10.1" Screen. It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine. http://ur1.ca/38ee0 | Feb 13 18:48 | |
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DaemonFC | Linux will just toss it in to make the device work | Feb 13 18:48 |
gnufreex | Look this http://lwn.net/Articles/229740/ | Feb 13 18:48 |
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gnufreex | That was first dispute | Feb 13 18:49 |
gnufreex | They infringed GPL and complained when they were notified | Feb 13 18:49 |
DaemonFC | so OpenBSD is "free" because of security concerns, and Linux is nonfree and impossible to audit without stripping out a lot of hardware-enabling firmware | Feb 13 18:49 |
DaemonFC | they're both a problem I think | Feb 13 18:49 |
DaemonFC | in a perfect world we'd have a free OS where everything magically worked | Feb 13 18:50 |
gnufreex | Later, Linux folks took ISC driver and put it into kernel, and OpenBSD folks screamed bloody murder. | Feb 13 18:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Trying to find out about !android upgrades to Honeycombe. Will it be possible for all handsets? | Feb 13 18:50 | |
DaemonFC | in the one we have, you have to pick | Feb 13 18:50 |
DaemonFC | you'd think there'd be more cooperation | Feb 13 18:51 |
gnufreex | And they made problem just becaus of publicity. No other explanation. To flame those evil "GPL people" | Feb 13 18:51 |
DaemonFC | their goals aren't inherently incompatible | Feb 13 18:51 |
DaemonFC | LGPL solves their main complaint, the viral clause isn't there | Feb 13 18:52 |
DaemonFC | they seem to want all their code to be an all you can eat buffet for Microsoft and Apple and anyone else | Feb 13 18:52 |
DaemonFC | I'd want to be on the salary if they were using my project :) | Feb 13 18:53 |
DaemonFC | I don't quite understand their reasoning for being adamant about the BSD license | Feb 13 18:53 |
gnufreex | They are religious. They want to fight that freedom thing but they need free labour to survive. So BSD gives them chance to lord over community and not have any obligation while they are not helping freedom to grow. | Feb 13 18:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] El norte de Guatemala, controlado por Los Zetas http://is.gd/XRc4zN !wl | Feb 13 19:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @davidmarsden It's not Twitter or Facebook, it's _different_ from Twitter and Facebook, it's better than Twitter and Facebook. #WhyId ... | Feb 13 19:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @agentsmith Yeah, google couldn't help for better gift. Re: Qt, Intel can't buy it because MS wont sell. Fork is only option. | Feb 13 19:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Another Senior Vice President Quits Microsoft and Microsoft Sues Departing Executive http://ur1.ca/38eht #microsoft #Srivastava | Feb 13 19:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Senior Vice President Quits Microsoft and Microsoft Sues Departing Executive http://ur1.ca/38eht #microsoft #elop #nokia | Feb 13 19:06 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/64412522 | Feb 13 19:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Luis A. Morán Morales (lamm)'s status on Sunday, 13-Feb-11 18:41:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Does @schestowitz run on Terminator-grade power cells? The man is nonstop! Thanks for keeping us (super)informed. | Feb 13 19:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, apparently the Samsung galaxy 3 (2.1) cannot be upgraded to 2.2 *gutted* http://ur1.ca/38eie | Feb 13 19:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At #BUSC board meeting. My first. Never been on a board before.... | Feb 13 19:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ♻ @helptheplanet Plastic bags: 1 second to be produced, 20 minutes to be used and 300 years to be destroyed. | Feb 13 19:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egypt: Hosni Mubarak used last 18 days in power to secure his fortune http://is.gd/77zji9 !wl | Feb 13 19:26 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: hello mate | Feb 13 19:31 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: forgot it was my sisters birthday today...Im now all ready to record if you are. | Feb 13 19:31 |
schestowitz | Cool! | Feb 13 19:32 |
_Goblin | im loading up skype | Feb 13 19:32 |
schestowitz | OK, give me a few minutes. | Feb 13 19:33 |
schestowitz | FInishing a post... | Feb 13 19:33 |
_Goblin | yep no probs | Feb 13 19:33 |
_Goblin | looks like its just me and you today | Feb 13 19:33 |
schestowitz | Are you on the network? | Feb 13 19:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Marvellous! /sarcasm :( Spotify !linux Preview is not currently available for Free/Open users #lame | Feb 13 19:38 | |
DaemonFC | Firefox's scripting engine is (slightly) faster than Opera's, but Opera still renders images and parses CSS faster | Feb 13 19:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Court of Justice Can Defend European Software Companies From Patents http://ur1.ca/38ep3 #europe #swpats #eu | Feb 13 19:40 | |
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DaemonFC | (4b11 vs 11.01) | Feb 13 19:40 |
DaemonFC | Firefox on Fedora probably has an advantage over stock Firefox since it's using the system jpeg (libjpeg-turbo) | Feb 13 19:40 |
DaemonFC | it's getting down to where you have to split hairs to compare rendering engines, which is good | Feb 13 19:41 |
DaemonFC | it means everyone is improving | Feb 13 19:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Samsung (Galaxy 3) updates: "Robert Parker" Who the f*ck is he? | Feb 13 19:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] European Court of Justice Can Defend European Software Companies From Patents http://ur1.ca/38ep3 #patents #italy | Feb 13 19:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Reverse Engineering PowerVR Is Now A High Priority: The Free Software Foundation has now determined that reverse... http://bit.ly/fwzHCO | Feb 13 19:43 | |
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DaemonFC | I'm going to call Firefox 4 beta 11 good enough for day to day use | Feb 13 19:43 |
DaemonFC | the softblockers and hardblockers remaining in Bugzilla are mostly corner cases | Feb 13 19:44 |
DaemonFC | of course it's always possible to be the first to trip over something really nasty that everyone else has missed | Feb 13 19:44 |
DaemonFC | one thing they've classified as a soft blocker really jumps out at me as who the hell cares | Feb 13 19:45 |
DaemonFC | "Significant Zimbra perf regression due to d2d " | Feb 13 19:45 |
DaemonFC | ewww | Feb 13 19:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 187 dents! | Feb 13 19:47 | |
DaemonFC | there's no free software driver worth using for the majority of Nvidia and ATI chipsets, why are those not high priority? | Feb 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC | you can boot up and maybe use them to run Compiz, that's a far cry from CAD or 3d gaming | Feb 13 19:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: El norte de Guatemala, controlado por Los Zetas http://is.gd/XRc4zN http://bit.ly/e3oPDZ | Feb 13 19:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Egypt: Hosni Mubarak used last 18 days in power to secure his fortune http://is.gd/77zji9 http://bit.ly/fkTsqV | Feb 13 19:58 | |
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DaemonFC | also, my GPU has no fan control even with the latest Linux kernel | Feb 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC | sounds like a jet engine unless I use, nonfree drivers | Feb 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC | the documentation I saw for the latest open source ati driver says this model has automatic fan control support, but not from what I've seen | Feb 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC | I thought my computer was about to lift off and fly around the room | Feb 13 19:58 |
DaemonFC | go figure :) | Feb 13 19:58 |
gnufreex | PoverVR is simpler. If you want to make Nouveau capale of runing profesional CAD tools, you are looking at effort which is comparable to Stallman wrinting GNU alone. | Feb 13 19:59 |
DaemonFC | I'll never be able to tell anyone why the FSF dedicates obscure crap as high priority while important projects never get a nod | Feb 13 19:59 |
gnufreex | Nvidia has CAD so secret that is crazy | Feb 13 19:59 |
gnufreex | 3D games might be little easier | Feb 13 19:59 |
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gnufreex | But Quadro like funcionality is nearly imposible | Feb 13 19:59 |
gnufreex | Unless they show all specs | Feb 13 19:59 |
walterbyrd | Open source guru Miguel de Icaza "psyched" about Microsoft/Nokia deal http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/open-source-guru-miguel-de-icaza-psyched-abou?elq=true#comment-277157 | Feb 13 20:00 |
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DaemonFC | Nvidia and ATI are apples and oranges. It's amazing they've been able to do this much without any help from Nvidia | Feb 13 20:00 |
DaemonFC | I had expected ATI drivers to progress faster with official ATI cooperation | Feb 13 20:00 |
DaemonFC | they've documented damned near everything that doesn't have to do with HDCP from my understanding | Feb 13 20:01 |
gnufreex | walterbyrd: Yeah, old news. RMS was right. Miguel De Iscarion is traitor. | Feb 13 20:01 |
walterbyrd | Miguel de Icaza is an "open source guru?" I thought foss community hated Miguel? | Feb 13 20:01 |
gnufreex | Iscariot* | Feb 13 20:01 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 13 20:01 |
gnufreex | Network world is M$ funded | Feb 13 20:01 |
gnufreex | They have warped picture | Feb 13 20:01 |
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DaemonFC | he started GNOME, why start hating him now? :) | Feb 13 20:02 |
gnufreex | Balmer "controls their mental input" | Feb 13 20:02 |
DaemonFC | GNOME was built around functional copies of things in Windows | Feb 13 20:02 |
gnufreex | I think I will call him just Iscariot from not on | Feb 13 20:02 |
DaemonFC | the work they've had to do to excise things like gconf and bonobo alone should show what a damned mess GNOME was | Feb 13 20:03 |
gnufreex | GNOMe is not so Windows now | Feb 13 20:03 |
gnufreex | Bonobo is gone | Feb 13 20:03 |
DaemonFC | yes, for a while now, but it caused a lot of problems while it was there | Feb 13 20:04 |
DaemonFC | including a lot of security problems that come from the fact that it was a COM implementation that trusted everything | Feb 13 20:04 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 13 20:04 |
gnufreex | That makes sense | Feb 13 20:04 |
gnufreex | De Iscariot wants us to trust Microsoft | Feb 13 20:05 |
gnufreex | You might as well trust anyone then | Feb 13 20:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Spotify won't install with Wine. "Error writing temporary file. Make sure your temp folder is valid." ?? :( | Feb 13 20:05 | |
DaemonFC | I played with GNOME Shell and Unity on my older system that has better ATI open source driver support | Feb 13 20:05 |
DaemonFC | I don't really like either, but Unity sucks less | Feb 13 20:06 |
DaemonFC | not saying much | Feb 13 20:06 |
DaemonFC | if I had to choose I probably would use the old GNOME 2-ish desktop with Compiz | Feb 13 20:06 |
DaemonFC | both GNOME Shell and Unity reek of trying to use netbook optimized interfaces, even on desktop PCs | Feb 13 20:07 |
gnufreex | I wonder what that walterbyrd wanted. Just trolled and gone. | Feb 13 20:08 |
DaemonFC | the difference is that a netbook user will only be running one or two tasks while a desktop PC user needs to switch between more | Feb 13 20:08 |
DaemonFC | this one size fits all desktop built for netbook users is just bad | Feb 13 20:08 |
DaemonFC | some people will like it, the rest will probably migrate to KDE | Feb 13 20:09 |
DaemonFC | I think in the end, GNOME is worse off | Feb 13 20:09 |
DaemonFC | treating a desktop like a really big netbook is asinine | Feb 13 20:10 |
DaemonFC | I don't buy the argument that people are lining up to throw their desktop PC in the trash in place of a single tasking toy | Feb 13 20:10 |
DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTA5OQ | Feb 13 20:13 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jimbobbysez: International Criminal Court investigating Harper & MacKay for war crimes: http://ow.ly/3Vwiw #cdnpoli #ICC #torture | Feb 13 20:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: "Likelihood is that all the Afghans handed over were tortured." Richard Colvin 18 Nov 09: http://bit.ly/hdHgrV #cdnpoli | Feb 13 20:13 | |
DaemonFC | MinceR, You were referring to Intel as making GPUs | Feb 13 20:13 |
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DaemonFC | there's proof they don't | Feb 13 20:13 |
DaemonFC | a 9 year old PCI bus ATI card beats their latest integrated Intel | Feb 13 20:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: RT @Leoslaire: @AnonyOps is like the Borg on Star Trek: "Resistance is futile!" #HBGary got Borged! ROFLMAO! | Feb 13 20:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Story on 'Wikileaks' on Discovery channel #121 !wl | Feb 13 20:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: VOTE for Egyptian People as 2011 Nobel Peace Prize Winner #egypt #feb11 #jan25 http://bit.ly/hMIBoL | Feb 13 20:17 | |
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DaemonFC | I am Dyslexic of Borg, fusistence is retile, your ass will be laminated | Feb 13 20:17 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 13 20:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: RT @prysiahell: Police is now interrupting #Anonymous demo against #SindeLaw in the Goya Awards in Madrid #operaciongoya | Feb 13 20:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] how am I supposed to listen to music while replacing a light switch if I have to turn off all of the power in my apartment? | Feb 13 20:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @MeeGoExperts: Question: were you a Trojan horse? Board of directors reviewed and accepted the proposal #nokmsft | Feb 13 20:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: Miguel de Icaza Helps Show He is an Enemy of GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/38e89 | Feb 13 20:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: States are asking for federal bailouts http://ur1.ca/38esq | Feb 13 20:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: wikileaks: Egypt: Hosni Mubarak used last 18 days in power to secure his fortune http://is.gd/77zji9 http://bit.ly/fkTsqV | Feb 13 20:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: European Court of Justice Can Defend European Software Companies From Patents http://ur1.ca/38ep3 #europe #swpats #eu | Feb 13 20:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Cuba welcomes new internet connection and unblocks access to controversial blog https://eff.org/r.2ye https://eff.org/r.y6f #netfreedom | Feb 13 20:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra let there be light! | Feb 13 20:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Source Engine On Postal III Is Still Coming To Linux: While it was announced previously by the Running With ... http://bit.ly/fBvxaT | Feb 13 20:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Installing !Crunchbang Xfce on my EeePC. Love the post-install script. Never seen that before... | Feb 13 20:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Harper, Bush, maybe Obama next. Looks like no North American politician will dare to leave the continent: http://bit.ly/hsmXPS #cdnpoli | Feb 13 20:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] I second that RT @Texrat: @quimgil please do blog. Many of us are specifically interested in YOUR opinion and analysis, Quim. | Feb 13 20:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Bought Gran Torino last year, finally getting around to watching it. Clint Eastwood did one heck of a job! | Feb 13 20:50 | |
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MinceR | DaemonFC: and your point is? | Feb 13 20:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Story on 'Wikileaks' on Discovery channel #121 http://bit.ly/dSlc9f | Feb 13 20:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk not an existing one, but I suggest that for the command | Feb 13 20:57 | |
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DaemonFC | lol | Feb 13 20:57 |
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MinceR | (actually i suspect you're full of shit as usual) | Feb 13 20:57 |
MinceR | hm, phoronix looks like it could use some more ads | Feb 13 20:57 |
DaemonFC | it's worse now, they host Microsoft fullscreen ads like that | Feb 13 20:58 |
DaemonFC | advertising Windows Server | Feb 13 20:58 |
DaemonFC | the guy must make a lot of money spamming Google with 3 years worth of steam is coming to Linux bs, then covering the screen with ads once you get there | Feb 13 20:59 |
MinceR | he sold out to IDG | Feb 13 21:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Will Australia help Julian Assange? http://alturl.com/v94zp !wl | Feb 13 21:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] It's nice to see people starting to use, understand and love !KDE 's activities :D | Feb 13 21:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] talk about embracing life "romantic love is not suitable for Muslims" apparently http://tighturl.com/2xyz | Feb 13 21:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12424996 Maybe worth a listen when it's released #ASCLaw | Feb 13 21:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Someone's idea of The Perfect Desktop http://ping.fm/0Azpv | Feb 13 21:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Two Huge Holes in the Sun Spotted - International Business Times http://ping.fm/vWalW | Feb 13 21:32 | |
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_Goblin | Good show Roy! Thanks | Feb 13 21:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man.... I had totally forgotten how much I missed !Crunchbang. This is niiiiiice..... :) | Feb 13 21:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #msnokia: MSQt™ 4.7: [arggggggghhhhhhhh #NIGHTMARE] http://www.msqt.org/ | Feb 13 21:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !winehq Create desktop launchers for Wine apps easily with #WLCreator via @omgubuntu http://ping.fm/Yxgo5 | Feb 13 21:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSCE [IMG] http://ur1.ca/38fgd | Feb 13 21:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] Reverse Engineering PowerVR Is Now A High Priority http://ping.fm/Ml0k6 | Feb 13 21:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] It always amazes me how easy is to share printers between two Linux printers. | Feb 13 21:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "OSS guru Miguel de Icaza "psyched" about Microsoft/Nokia deal" -> "OSS guru says Microsoft/Nokia deal shows Miguel de Icaza is a psycho" ;) | Feb 13 21:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just finished recording the !techbytes show episode 31! | Feb 13 21:50 | |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/64419891 | Feb 13 21:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @luq (ghabuntu)'s status on Sunday, 13-Feb-11 20:49:33 UTC - Identi.ca: Have you got any idea what this is? http://ping.fm/soTrW (cc @schestowitz @agente_smithe) #Nokia #QT #Microsoft | Feb 13 21:50 |
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schestowitz | whoa | Feb 13 21:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ghabuntu: Have you got any idea what this is? http://ping.fm/soTrW (cc @schestowitz @agente_smithe) #Nokia #QT #Microsoft | Feb 13 21:52 | |
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schestowitz | I guess it can be pronnounced mascot | Feb 13 21:53 |
schestowitz | *pronounced | Feb 13 21:53 |
schestowitz | Wow: | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > FOSSpatents Florian Mueller @ | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > @jwildeboer I tried my best but it wasn't possible without significant | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > resouces to try to build a serious anti-swpat alliance. So gave up. | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > 5 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > FOSSpatents Florian Mueller @ | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > @jwildeboer It didn't work out. I raised more money for the fight | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > against swpat than the entire FFII, but it wasn't enough to win this. | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | > What to make out of that? | Feb 13 21:54 |
schestowitz | Just had this mailed to me | Feb 13 21:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz it'd help to read the bottom of the site.. This is a satire, for the real Qt website go to qt.nokia.com. | Feb 13 21:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's hawkish foreign minister, Carl Bildt, gets into the act http://alturl.com/hdmqr !wl | Feb 13 21:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian says today "So gave up" about fight against #swpats - admission of not being against them (said to @jwildeboer ) | Feb 13 21:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tekk: @schestowitz it'd help to read the bottom of the site.. This is a satire, for the real Qt website go to qt.nokia.com. cc @ghabuntu | Feb 13 21:58 | |
schestowitz | tessier: ? | Feb 13 21:59 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Just read @thurrott's thoughts on Nokia+Microsoft. What a load of crap. Windows Phone had lost to Android before it was even announced. | Feb 13 22:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I suppose there could be adecent fight for second place between Apple and Nokia/Microsoft ? | Feb 13 22:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods damn you fucking New York Rangers!!!! Doing the Flyers' dirty work.... Damn! | Feb 13 22:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Hahahahahahaha! When I said lost, I meant LOST! The iPhone was whipping M$'s ass on one carrier, man.... | Feb 13 22:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I agree it's unlikely, but if apple just keep on alienating devs it could yet turn around | Feb 13 22:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] All the Microsoft bloggers pronouncing the smartphone market a three horse race is quite sad really. In a dying puppy sort of way... LOL | Feb 13 22:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just got another !LO theme version from @jezra in the mail. The man is a living legend! And I don't just mean the 'burns... :D | Feb 13 22:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Understanding “violent” protest in vancouver - Feb. 2010 anti-Olympic Protest http://bit.ly/gXU8ki #cdnpoli | Feb 13 22:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Not going to be able put the Internet back into the tubes. #UBB | Feb 13 22:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rms: Darwin Day http://ur1.ca/38fit - Think of it as Evolution in Action | Feb 13 22:18 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/64423764 | Feb 13 22:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @luq (ghabuntu)'s status on Sunday, 13-Feb-11 22:00:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ah, that makes some sense then...satire... | Feb 13 22:19 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TuxDotKing/status/36905706863071232 https://twitter.com/TuxDotKing/status/36905758058754048 | Feb 13 22:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @TuxDotKing: @schestowitz I've never seen one person so tirelessly promote a programming language. Mono doesn't bother me that much, but Icaza is a bit | Feb 13 22:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @TuxDotKing: @schestowitz overzealous... | Feb 13 22:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jim Skippen to Make the Software Patents Mess Worse in Canada, Elsewhere http://ur1.ca/38fn0 #swpats #canada #wilan | Feb 13 22:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Jim Skippen to Make the Software Patents Mess Worse in Canada, Elsewhere http://ur1.ca/38fn0 #patents | Feb 13 22:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @richslxh there are many awesome games for the android platform: Angry Birds, pocket legends, asphalt 5... | Feb 13 22:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @richslxh It's hard to admit, but I think that android is a better gaming platform than ubuntu at the moment. Whis is sad... :( | Feb 13 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @Techmeme: Microsoft to pay out 'billions' as part of Nokia deal (@idgnancy / Computerworld) http://j.mp/f2LAtn http://techme.me/BA0N | Feb 13 22:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Better link for that Nokia Microsoft payment story http://is.gd/YLHDY2 | Feb 13 22:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh @fontana That's not an accent, THÍS ís än åccént! @bkuhn ;) ;P | Feb 13 22:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Hahahahahaha! :D | Feb 13 22:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @RWW: Cuba's Internet Capacity To Increase by 3,000 Percent http://rww.to/fs2muW | Feb 13 22:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @lissnup: WOW RT @richardengelnbc: #Egypt.. egyptian police protested.. and won.. police salaries doubled.. as they try to transform MoI | Feb 13 22:42 | |
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Faither | hai | Feb 13 22:53 |
tessier | schestowitz: Yes? | Feb 13 22:59 |
schestowitz | Hey buddy | Feb 13 22:59 |
schestowitz | I sent a mail with the explanation: | Feb 13 22:59 |
Faither | hiho | Feb 13 22:59 |
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schestowitz | Since this morning we've had some apparent cache problem in TR, The root http://techrights.org/ address is sometimes not accessible, sometimes gives the Varnish "Error 503 Service Unavailable", sometimes blank pages, and sometimes it works fine. What's interesting is that all other pages work just perfectly. | Feb 13 22:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Feb 13 22:59 |
schestowitz | It started about 14 hours ago | Feb 13 22:59 |
tessier | Weird. Ok, I'm looking into it... | Feb 13 23:00 |
schestowitz | We tried some debugging, I spent hours without success trying to figure it out | Feb 13 23:00 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I guess I won't be receiving any updates on the Microsoft's symbiotic relationship to Nokia. You heard Elop appointed another Microsoftie as head of US sales? | Feb 13 23:00 |
Faither | was abut to ask the same question, thanks for clarification | Feb 13 23:00 |
Faither | g2g, bye | Feb 13 23:02 |
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Ender2070 | sounds like some american should be filing a complaint with someone | Feb 13 23:02 |
schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yeah | Feb 13 23:02 |
Ziomatrix | Faither: according to Engadget Intel is back to pimping Meego concepts at the upcoming Mobile World Conference to look for a partner | Feb 13 23:02 |
Ender2070 | if microsoft really does have that much influence over nokia due to Elop | Feb 13 23:02 |
Ender2070 | its probably a monopoly concern | Feb 13 23:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Maneuverers of #Microsoft in an Age of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/38fv4 #swpats #cptn | Feb 13 23:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Maneuverers of #Microsoft in an Age of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/38fv4 #patents #novell #android | Feb 13 23:03 | |
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Ziomatrix | Ender2070: are you kidding the current US Administration will take this as good news, since "one of our own" ie big lobby contributor is reigning in a foreign company to push their product. | Feb 13 23:03 |
Ender2070 | except that its a product which competes with Intel | Feb 13 23:04 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: The government as a meaningful regulatory body in this country has died decades ago, what has been happening since has been one business pawning big gov to go after another. | Feb 13 23:04 |
Ender2070 | well then i ask | Feb 13 23:05 |
Ender2070 | how can you trust any government to do anything for the people | Feb 13 23:05 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: by appealing to their common sense to do enough to stay in office. | Feb 13 23:05 |
Ender2070 | LOL | Feb 13 23:06 |
Ender2070 | and socialism is just a way to keep us happy while they keep doing this | Feb 13 23:07 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: if the people love their triple plays and 2 year contracts with low caps, throttled data, sky high ETFs and overage fees in order to buy the latest smartphone they can have it. | Feb 13 23:07 |
Ender2070 | all governments side with big corps or businesses to screw people | Feb 13 23:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. | Feb 13 23:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jstone !reading "It Will Be Awesome if They Don’t Screw it Up: 3D Printing, Intellectual Property, [...]" - http://ur1.ca/2bhsj | Feb 13 23:08 | |
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Ziomatrix | Ender2070: its great that for example HP is being blasted for not supplying OTA updates to Palm based WebOS devices (sans Pre 2) without anyone realizing its the cellular carriers that call the shots in the US when it comes to rolling out updates and the best manufacturers can do is compromise or play along if they want them to continue to buy their products in bulk. So far its only Apple that has gained enough mindsha | Feb 13 23:09 |
Ziomatrix | capital muscle to call the shots over AT&T. | Feb 13 23:09 |
Ender2070 | what are you going to do about it | Feb 13 23:10 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: that sometimes peoples' misguided angst gets them to whine in the wrong direction. | Feb 13 23:10 |
Ender2070 | what are you doing to stop them | Feb 13 23:11 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: I just pick and choose the best deals on my own terms. I know I don't want to update my contract for a long time if it means they have to implement unnecessary caps or if I know the phone I'm getting is crippled beyond repair. I needed to download a few patches to get the GPS on my Pre Plus to work right since Verizon crippled it for everything but their $9.95 per a month map application. | Feb 13 23:13 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: I don't think I'll be buying a PS4 since Sony screwed around so much with the PS3 | Feb 13 23:14 |
Ender2070 | take me for example | Feb 13 23:14 |
Ender2070 | i've filed complaints against numerous corporations | Feb 13 23:14 |
Ender2070 | i have something to show for my complaints | Feb 13 23:14 |
Ender2070 | not much happens in Canada though | Feb 13 23:15 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: how many have been received and addressed? | Feb 13 23:15 |
Ender2070 | a monopoly here doesnt exist if theres 1 competitor | Feb 13 23:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera #Egypt, the protesters have been given an IOU and they are not sure if it will be honoured. | Feb 13 23:15 | |
Ziomatrix | http://engt.co/dIJthj Read a few posts down to the nice parody of the false flag "Burning Platform" email. | Feb 13 23:15 |
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Ender2070 | even if they are really bad | Feb 13 23:15 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: you mean like Coke and Pepsi? :P | Feb 13 23:15 |
Ender2070 | similar | Feb 13 23:16 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: sorry but the sorry situation in the US when it comes to ISPs, phone and other information services is a sorry situation indeed. | Feb 13 23:16 |
Ender2070 | i filed a complaint against our cell phone providers | Feb 13 23:17 |
Ender2070 | conspiracy to price fix | Feb 13 23:17 |
Ender2070 | ttyl | Feb 13 23:17 |
Ziomatrix | Ender2070: In many cases there is only one high speed internet provider. It doesn't help they can get exclusive agreements with landlords | Feb 13 23:17 |
Ziomatrix | ok | Feb 13 23:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after a week of downtime and rebuilding, my blog is back up and online with a new Drupal 7 build http://thistleweb.co.uk/ | Feb 13 23:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] forgot to mention the Digital Prism Screencast is also back up | Feb 13 23:23 | |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: so any good news? besides the above. | Feb 13 23:23 |
schestowitz | Yeah.. | Feb 13 23:24 |
schestowitz | Cuba for example... | Feb 13 23:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scaremongering Against #Google — Not Technical Advantage — the Strategy of #MPEGLA and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/38fyu | Feb 13 23:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Scaremongering Against #Google — Not Technical Advantage — the Strategy of #MPEGLA and #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/38fyu #swpats #webm | Feb 13 23:25 | |
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Ziomatrix | schestowitz: what transpired in Cuba, I just heard something in Spanish about a Cuba diplomatic official visiting Colombia and also 2 hostages released from a left wing paramilitary group. | Feb 13 23:29 |
MinceR | gn | Feb 13 23:29 |
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Ziomatrix | MinceR: night? | Feb 13 23:33 |
Faither | gn MinceR | Feb 13 23:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nisshh Guy releases his own DNA under a !CC license http://ur1.ca/388d7 | Feb 13 23:40 | |
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Ziomatrix | schestowitz: interesting video on Wikileaks, it seems that in response to the latest attack on Wikileaks by efforts to peg them to Anonymous: http://bit.ly/eNJ7SX had lead Jullian to announce the release of some scathing information later this year: http://huff.to/gbRLmL | Feb 13 23:41 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter @russellmcormond Do you meant to say that they lied to @CBCTheHouse 's @JaneTaber1 on #UBB ? The horror :) | Feb 13 23:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter @russellmcormond What's shocking is that a reporter could be so gullible. | Feb 13 23:42 | |
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sebsebseb | _Goblin: schestowitz MinceR Hey | Feb 13 23:42 |
sebsebseb | Good news! | Feb 13 23:42 |
_Goblin | Hi! | Feb 13 23:43 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: BBC Click :) at them again | Feb 13 23:43 |
sebsebseb | in the latest episode they mention PC Linux OS :) | Feb 13 23:43 |
sebsebseb | in the episode before they were in Brazil and Linux got mentioned and such :) | Feb 13 23:43 |
_Goblin | I'm surprised Click knows even what Linux is | Feb 13 23:43 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: they do mention Linux stuff sometimes | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | not that often though | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | and when they do it's useually Ubuntu | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | so this is like WOW, PC Linux OS :) | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | plus that's the distro I am on right now :) | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: also it seems they nearly explained in the latest episode | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | the terms | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | hacker and cracker | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | and cracking and hacking | Feb 13 23:44 |
sebsebseb | see for yourself I guess | Feb 13 23:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Yemen protests styled after #Egypt protest, I wish these guys luck too http://ur1.ca/38gc4 | Feb 13 23:45 | |
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_Goblin | they probably only mention Linux for viewers.......bring in a few views by mentioning Linux. Theres no point talking MS, people don't want to know. | Feb 13 23:45 |
sebsebseb | this was a proper mention though | Feb 13 23:45 |
sebsebseb | not just a quick breif mention | Feb 13 23:45 |
sebsebseb | they did PC Linux OS as the first thing on webscape and the presenter said something first as well | Feb 13 23:45 |
_Goblin | Lord Balmer will not be pleased if he hears about it..... | Feb 13 23:46 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: see the episode for yourself I guess, Iplayer or however your going to see it | Feb 13 23:46 |
sebsebseb | anyway | Feb 13 23:46 |
_Goblin | I'll give it a look on the PS3 on money | Feb 13 23:46 |
_Goblin | *monday | Feb 13 23:46 |
sebsebseb | they were like there's this 3rd OS as well... and I am like LInux | Feb 13 23:47 |
Faither | in 15 inutes then? | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: my Dad was in the room as well | Feb 13 23:47 |
schestowitz | posted... | Feb 13 23:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The US Fatwa on Assange http://alturl.com/eookk !wl | Feb 13 23:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes Episode 31: Nokiasoft and Computer Games http://ur1.ca/38ge3 http://ur1.ca/38ge8 #nokia | Feb 13 23:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !TechBytes Episode 31: Nokiasoft and Computer Games http://ur1.ca/38ge3 http://ur1.ca/38ge8 #nokia | Feb 13 23:47 | |
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schestowitz | Need the notes | Feb 13 23:47 |
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sebsebseb | _Goblin: then he started with the negativeness, oh, but business don't use LInux | Feb 13 23:47 |
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sebsebseb | companies don't use it blah de blah | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | that kind of thing again yeah | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | and I am like, depends on the other programs that are going to be used as well | Feb 13 23:47 |
Faither | Will start downloading | Feb 13 23:47 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: damn...show notes....too busy watching Pacific box set. | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: also PC Pro did Ubuntu for a day recently | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | and did some stuff about it on their site and that | Feb 13 23:47 |
_Goblin | yeah we talked about that tonight | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | adn people followed on Twitter | Feb 13 23:47 |
sebsebseb | and it seems they rely on Exchange to much | Feb 13 23:48 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: watch the latest episode of Click, I just told _Goblin why it should be watched | Feb 13 23:48 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: I may have to email BBC Click or something :D | Feb 13 23:48 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: just to say how great it is when they mention LInux :) | Feb 13 23:48 |
Faither | schestowitz: what are you guys using as conference tool? | Feb 13 23:48 |
sebsebseb | I have thought about contacting them before, but didn't bother | Feb 13 23:48 |
_Goblin | Faither: skype | Feb 13 23:49 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: last week's episode maybe not on the Iplayer, but on our catch up TV just about, that was good the Brazil stuff | Feb 13 23:49 |
sebsebseb | Al Gore | Feb 13 23:50 |
sebsebseb | and Tim Berners-Lee | Feb 13 23:50 |
sebsebseb | and something about how a lot of them use Linux, at this tech thing they went to | Feb 13 23:50 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: if they mentioned LInux and open source much more, I would like BBC Click a lot more, but I find it an ok | Feb 13 23:51 |
sebsebseb | show | Feb 13 23:51 |
Faither | you could use teamspeak so you could have some sort of live audiende ^^ and just give voice to the people on the show | Feb 13 23:51 |
sebsebseb | sometimes it sucks though or parts of it, depending on what it's about | Feb 13 23:51 |
_Goblin | the reason why I hold Click in contempt is that it is only just starting to talk about Linux that we all have been using and enjoying for years....they are out of touch, out of date and the presenters are out of any personality.... | Feb 13 23:51 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: and they use Twitter not Identica hmm :D | Feb 13 23:51 |
_Goblin | but worse than that...I pay for the show through the TV license | Feb 13 23:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The US Fatwa on Assange http://alturl.com/h7mnr !wl | Feb 13 23:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] A Microsoft Partner Is Just Someone They Haven’t Gotten Around To Killing Yet - http://bit.ly/hx6ESl #microsoft #nokia | Feb 13 23:52 | |
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sebsebseb | I could suggest Identica for something ot mention on Webscape :D | Feb 13 23:52 |
_Goblin | give them a couple more years, they will finally realize Identi.ca exists. | Feb 13 23:52 |
sebsebseb | I could link them to this log even :D | Feb 13 23:52 |
sebsebseb | when the log is up | Feb 13 23:52 |
_Goblin | I don't even think its the presenters that post on twitter | Feb 13 23:52 |
sebsebseb | in fact that could be a good idea in a way, to send a email and also link them to this chat in a log :D | Feb 13 23:53 |
_Goblin | its "fast food" tech news...you know the stuff that gives you heartburn and leaves you hungry,,,, | Feb 13 23:53 |
sebsebseb | it seems they will mention the Nokia and MIcrosoft deal properly next week | Feb 13 23:53 |
sebsebseb | as part of some mobile phones episode | Feb 13 23:53 |
_Goblin | properly meaning about 5mins worth.... | Feb 13 23:54 |
sebsebseb | got mentioned in this latest one quickly in the news section though | Feb 13 23:54 |
_Goblin | and they will be singing about how great it is... | Feb 13 23:54 |
_Goblin | just watch | Feb 13 23:54 |
sebsebseb | maybe not | Feb 13 23:54 |
sebsebseb | I think they try to be unbiased, but | Feb 13 23:54 |
_Goblin | I don't think they are biased....I just think they are ignorant. | Feb 13 23:54 |
sebsebseb | that also means, not much Linux, because they are still biased really to Microsoft and Apple and Twitter and Facebook, if you get what I Mean | Feb 13 23:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: “We had to put a stop to the presentation of debutantes at Court. Every tart in London was getting in” - Princess Margaret | Feb 13 23:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TanyaHuff: The Courts like to think they were too precious to burn. The rest of the underRealm built in stone. #amwriting | Feb 13 23:55 | |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: also I am not sure why, but in this latest webscape they mentioned audacity | Feb 13 23:55 |
sebsebseb | uh that's been around for quite a while now | Feb 13 23:55 |
sebsebseb | ah well at least they were mentioning something open source :) | Feb 13 23:55 |
_Goblin | biased would suggest they have a modicum of knowledge....I don't think they have. | Feb 13 23:55 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: biased in that context, would mean, wanting to mention propritary stuff mainly | Feb 13 23:56 |
sebsebseb | Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, and Twitter | Feb 13 23:56 |
_Goblin | I think they just vomit press releases given to them. | Feb 13 23:56 |
sebsebseb | either way though great stuff, they mentioend PC Linux OS in the way they did :) | Feb 13 23:56 |
cubezzz | people don't question things | Feb 13 23:56 |
sebsebseb | also they explained kind of how their are different distro's | Feb 13 23:56 |
_Goblin | thats why there is little Linux......to many proprietary firms stuffing PR infront of them. | Feb 13 23:56 |
sebsebseb | made it sound like trying a LIve CD was a bit hard though | Feb 13 23:56 |
_Goblin | *too | Feb 13 23:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The US Fatwa on Assange http://alturl.com/e738x !wl | Feb 13 23:57 | |
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cubezzz | there's lots of Linux actually | Feb 13 23:57 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: well see for yourself when you watch it :) | Feb 13 23:57 |
cubezzz | a ton of LCD TV's are Linux based | Feb 13 23:57 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz I highly recommend you see the latest BBC Click as well | Feb 13 23:57 |
_Goblin | not the same as talking about desktop Linux | Feb 13 23:57 |
cubezzz | people are very resistant to change, yes | Feb 13 23:57 |
cubezzz | Mother Says use Windows Version 12345678 | Feb 13 23:58 |
cubezzz | and they do | Feb 13 23:58 |
cubezzz | excepting the crazy Commodore diehards of course | Feb 13 23:59 |
_Goblin | and on that note...Im off to get through another ep of Pacific before I go to bed! | Feb 13 23:59 |
_Goblin | gn all..... | Feb 13 23:59 |
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cubezzz | nite | Feb 13 23:59 |
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