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sebsebsebmy little brother tried to go on the web or whatever, and well no webpages would load upFeb 21 00:00
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:00
sebsebsebso I thought ok so the upgrade went bad some how then?  plus I had tried to get some help in the big support channel, but that didn't go very far at allFeb 21 00:00
nisshhsebsebseb, i actually got my brother into LinuxFeb 21 00:00
sebsebsebnisshh: I got my brothers in to it :)Feb 21 00:01
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:01
sebsebsebanywayFeb 21 00:01
sebsebsebsoFeb 21 00:01
nisshhi set him on crunchbangFeb 21 00:01
sebsebsebI re installed 8.10Feb 21 00:01
sebsebseb,but still the same problemFeb 21 00:01
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:01
sebsebsebturns out it woudn't work on the LIve CD eitherFeb 21 00:01
nisshhi remember i had sound issues on 8.10, but after than it was fineFeb 21 00:01
nisshhthat*Feb 21 00:01
sebsebsebso I was disapointed, since I wanted to stay on 8.10 on there for quite a while, and skip 9.04Feb 21 00:01
sebsebsebso in the end I put 9.04 on instead, where yep the ethernet works fineFeb 21 00:01
sebsebseblike 8.04Feb 21 00:02
sebsebseband since I went with 9.04 I also did the optional Ext4 support, which some people had issues with, but I never did, when I tried it in development or stable version of 9.04Feb 21 00:02
sebsebseband that really gave it a  boot up speed boost :) and suchFeb 21 00:02
sebsebseband the shut down, and automatic disk checkingFeb 21 00:02
taconesticking with an older version doesn't work well in linuxFeb 21 00:02
nisshhtacone, +1Feb 21 00:03
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway the ethernet on that computer, well in XP it needs a driver as well, which I had forgotton about  I guess, or didn't really know, but the last re install of XP that was done on there, and yep the driver CD for ethernetFeb 21 00:03
sebsebsebtacone: it does if it's still supportedFeb 21 00:03
sebsebsebtacone: also people who know how, can maintain a Linux distro them selvesFeb 21 00:03
taconeit does not work wellFeb 21 00:03
sebsebsebtacone: rubbishFeb 21 00:03
nisshhsebsebseb, i remember about the time 9.10 or 10.04 came around, my machine was getting bogged down, i think that was the point where they started adding bloatFeb 21 00:03
sebsebsebin fact the last two good versions  of Ubuntu will run out of support this AprilFeb 21 00:03
sebsebsebthat's 8.04Feb 21 00:03
sebsebseband well 9.10, now that it's one of  the older ones :DFeb 21 00:04
taconeold versions break over time, especially ubuntuFeb 21 00:04
sebsebsebI didn't like 9.10 much  at all when it was the latestFeb 21 00:04
sebsebsebtacone: why do you say that?Feb 21 00:04
taconethe fixes quality and testing is not the same as for the new versions Feb 21 00:04
sebsebsebnisshh: 10.04 is where most of the bloat aka user friendly features got added, but it started with 9.04 and 9.10, but only little things like shut down on top rightFeb 21 00:05
nisshhsebsebseb, yeahFeb 21 00:05
taconenot a good idea for meFeb 21 00:05
nisshhsebsebseb, i really despise GUI stuff, so all the new bling in Unity is driving me nuts :)Feb 21 00:05
taconebetter to upgrade and repair the ayatana improvement as best as you canFeb 21 00:05
sebsebsebnisshh: with 10.04 I had to well remove most of it's features, before I was reasonably happy with it, but I was basically stuck with Grub 2, or  GDM 2, unless I went for an alternagive such as KDM which I didFeb 21 00:05
sebsebsebnisshh: can't just get the old version of GDM in Ubuntu since they introduced it with 9.10Feb 21 00:06
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:06
nisshhi was annoyed by the GDM changeFeb 21 00:06
sebsebsebnisshh: also can't seem to get Xsplash the boot up for 9.10, or the one Ubuntu used before that, in later versionsFeb 21 00:06
nisshhmassive loss of featuresFeb 21 00:06
sebsebsebnisshh: I wasFeb 21 00:06
sebsebsebindeed massive loss of features, upstreams' fault for this one, but here's the thingFeb 21 00:06
sebsebsebother distros such as Mandriva and PC Linux OS, yep old GDM :)Feb 21 00:06
sebsebsebin fact can easilly choose which version in these distro'sFeb 21 00:06
taconesometime i wish to switch to fedoraFeb 21 00:07
nisshhsebsebseb, i also hate how people seem to feel the need for a graphical boot menu instead of the good old text oneFeb 21 00:07
sebsebsebnisshh: also they went with GDM 2,  a bit delayed, since Fedora had already had it for a while, it seemsFeb 21 00:07
nisshhthe only difference is a small iconFeb 21 00:07
nisshhhehFeb 21 00:07
sebsebsebnisshh: uhmm Ubuntu uses the text boot GrubFeb 21 00:07
sebsebsebby defaultFeb 21 00:07
nisshhi know, but people seem to feel the need to use BURG and suchFeb 21 00:07
sebsebsebnisshh: ,but in distro's such as Mandriva and PC Linux OS, where it would do a graphical boot by default, can easilly change to the text boot, with the background colour you knowFeb 21 00:08
nisshhirks meFeb 21 00:08
sebsebsebnisshh: BURG nah, I think that's mainly OMGUbuntu peopleFeb 21 00:08
nisshhnopeFeb 21 00:08
nisshhi know HEAPS of GUI freaks who love that crapFeb 21 00:08
nisshhmany in my locoFeb 21 00:08
nisshhmany in teams im inFeb 21 00:08
sebsebsebnisshh: GUI freaks as you call them,  yeah Unity's target audiance?Feb 21 00:08
nisshhmany newbiesFeb 21 00:08
sebsebsebnisshh: even thoug hit s' meant to be for newbies and suchFeb 21 00:08
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:09
sebsebsebnisshh: if you quit Ubuntu still going to your loco?Feb 21 00:09
nisshhthats the other thing, Ubuntu is turning into a distro for newbies, there are so many users doing dumb things on Ubuntu now it is getting stupid trying to do user supportFeb 21 00:09
sebsebsebnisshh: or you going to go to a LUG instead? except your LUG will be hijacked by Ubuntu people as well?Feb 21 00:09
nisshhsebsebseb, im barely in my loco as it isFeb 21 00:09
sebsebsebnisshh: or the loco and lug is pretty much the same thing there?Feb 21 00:09
nisshhour loco is 90% deadFeb 21 00:10
nisshhnoFeb 21 00:10
sebsebsebnisshh: apparnatly a lot of LUG's get hijacked by Ubuntu peopleFeb 21 00:10
nisshhthere are very few active lugs and the loco is almost deadFeb 21 00:10
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:10
nisshhthat happened to my local oneFeb 21 00:10
nisshhwas being run by a cool Arch userFeb 21 00:10
nisshhgot hijacked by like 20 Ubuntu newbiesFeb 21 00:10
sebsebseboh :(Feb 21 00:11
sebsebsebnisshh: I am sick of the Ubuntu this that and the other thing, Ubuntu is best thing, blah de blahFeb 21 00:11
nisshhthat was my local lug though, not my locoFeb 21 00:11
sebsebsebmany Ubuntu people are also very biased when it comes to other distro'sFeb 21 00:11
nisshhyesFeb 21 00:11
nisshhmainly because they havent tried any other distrosFeb 21 00:11
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah some of them haven't even tried other distro's, I can think of one Ubuntu Community Member who,  I talked to last year I guess it was some time about other distro's, and apparnatly he had only tried UbuntuFeb 21 00:12
sebsebsebtalked to on IRC yeahFeb 21 00:12
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:12
sebsebsebdon't know who this person really isFeb 21 00:12
sebsebsebnisshh: also look at omgubuntu and the many comments, a lot of ignorance thereFeb 21 00:12
nisshhi did the smart thing and tried over a dozen distros before i started talking crap about ubuntuFeb 21 00:12
sebsebsebnisshh: even Jono and Jorge are starting to use it now for some of the  Unity stuff as wellFeb 21 00:12
nisshhnot that i talk crap about ubuntu still, its a waste of timeFeb 21 00:12
tacone going bedFeb 21 00:13
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:13
sebsebsebtacone: ok nightFeb 21 00:13
taconegood night folksFeb 21 00:13
nisshhi notice jono is linking to OMG a fair bitFeb 21 00:13
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nisshhlike its the official source of Ubuntu news or some crapFeb 21 00:13
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah I found out more about Ubuntu, and upstreams, and other distro's,  since 2008,  and now I can't just go and promote Ubuntu to people anymoreFeb 21 00:13
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:13
nisshhi dont even bother promoting Linux in generalFeb 21 00:14
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah, but omgubuntu is unoffical,  which was the response to that famous old blog  post, about neckbeards and such, where Benjamin basically insulsted loads of  open source developersFeb 21 00:14
nisshhi would rather not try and convert dumb windows users, they would just do dumb things on linux thenFeb 21 00:14
sebsebsebnisshh: well yeah, I think more like that now as wellFeb 21 00:14
nisshhyeah, that was funnyFeb 21 00:14
sebsebsebnisshh: I think if I am going to have someone using a Linux distro, ideally I would want them to have some sort of idea what it's about, and how to maintain the system and suchFeb 21 00:14
sebsebseband for them to ideally care about itFeb 21 00:15
sebsebsebthis hasn't quite worked out with my older brother :(Feb 21 00:15
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:15
sebsebsebso yeah I put Linux Mint 9 on his oldish lap top from 2005,  the one based on Ubuntu 10.04Feb 21 00:15
sebsebsebset up auto log in and suchFeb 21 00:15
nisshhmy bro is good with itFeb 21 00:15
sebsebsebbasically said, go and install security updates, like this and this is how you do wirelessFeb 21 00:15
sebsebseb,but I have this feeling he isn't bothering doing security updates, or not that oftenFeb 21 00:15
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:16
sebsebsebsince well it means typing the password inFeb 21 00:16
sebsebseband downloading stuffFeb 21 00:16
sebsebseband he's just a consumer really, wants the computer to just work for his tasks, and that's thatFeb 21 00:16
sebsebsebnisshh: he had to wait like two weeks as well :)Feb 21 00:16
sebsebsebnisshh: ,because well it came back with the fixed monitor, but  it was well it was going to be Christmas, and new years, and we would have guets for new yearsFeb 21 00:16
sebsebseband I woudn't want to mess around  with the lap top much then, so he kept on annoyimg me, untill it was done :(Feb 21 00:16
sebsebseband it came back on the like 22nd Dec with the fixed screen, and he found out soon after, since someone else told him and uh, then I got nagged and naggedFeb 21 00:17
sebsebsebthen on the 29th or whatever he's like,  I understand if you haven't done anything yet, but when you do i'll reward you, and to begin with he had been like, make it your priorityFeb 21 00:17
sebsebsebthen  I spend  a day or whatever trying to get XP SP3 on there, but issues,  well try to that day ro whatever, then I end up spending like three nights doing a lot ot suff with the lap top, and an evening, and uh,  certain things I could have done quicker, but you know it takes time, to back up his data, and re install OS's and all thatFeb 21 00:18
sebsebsebnisshh: then the evening before he got it back orwhatever it was,  he like flipped out kind of,  oh this is a joke it's still not done,  then he just like took it when it was ready that evening,  after I had finnished updates, and I never got a proper thanks hmmFeb 21 00:19
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sebsebsebnisshh: and then one time back in Dec, he had been like to me, I want it sorted out, so I can  carry on with my lifeFeb 21 00:19
sebsebseband I thought it was maybe since he had some stuff to type on it or something, why he wanted it back so quickly, but nope doesn't seem like itFeb 21 00:20
sebsebsebI think it was just, so he could use the net, where he was living, and contact people online and that you knowFeb 21 00:20
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:20
sebsebsebnisshh: stupid non technical consumer peopleFeb 21 00:20
sebsebsebuhFeb 21 00:20
*DaemonFC stripped out a bunch more crap and patched in bfs and apparmor fixesFeb 21 00:20
DaemonFCtoo tired to look at config options, I know there's more I could do, oh well :)Feb 21 00:21
sebsebsebnisshh: at least he's using a Linux distro :) and had been for a while on our computer here,  Ubuntu and then MandrivaFeb 21 00:21
sebsebseb,but he doesn't really understand what all this is aboutFeb 21 00:21
sebsebsebso hmmFeb 21 00:21
sebsebsebhe doesn't seem to have any idea what things are about really, why  Linux distro's are so great :)Feb 21 00:21
sebsebsebso hmmFeb 21 00:21
DaemonFCmv -f config.precious .configFeb 21 00:21
DaemonFClolFeb 21 00:21
*DaemonFC just noticed thatFeb 21 00:21
sebsebsebnisshh: and yeah well neither do most Ubuntu usersFeb 21 00:21
sebsebsebnisshh: do we really want many of these types of people using a Linux distro?  I am not so sure anymore, I used to think yes, but now I think noFeb 21 00:21
nisshhDaemonFC, lolFeb 21 00:22
sebsebsebof cousre if I see Windows being used here by my brothers for example though, I would want them using MandrivaFeb 21 00:22
sebsebsebinsteadFeb 21 00:22
sebsebsebnisshh: ,but in general I am not so sure about the masses going Linux distro any time soon, and if  that's a very good ideaFeb 21 00:22
nisshhsebsebseb, same, i dont want people who dont understand to be using LinuxFeb 21 00:22
sebsebsebplus once we got the masses or enough users,  more malware for usFeb 21 00:22
DaemonFCthe precccciooouuuuuusssssFeb 21 00:22
DaemonFCis miiiiiiiiiine!!!!!!Feb 21 00:22
DaemonFCit's ouuuuuuuuurs!Feb 21 00:23
*DaemonFC goes back to compilingFeb 21 00:23
sebsebsebnisshh: well I guess quit Ubuntu then, because yeah Canonical want these people using UbuntuFeb 21 00:23
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:23
sebsebsebnisshh: plus most of them,  just want to replace Windows, but keep most of their appsFeb 21 00:23
sebsebsebnisshh: Did you read the thing about PC Pro Magazine a UK magazine, doing Ubuntu for a day?Feb 21 00:24
sebsebsebthat was interestingFeb 21 00:24
nisshhDaemonFC, rm -f config.mypreciiiiooouuusssssss :)Feb 21 00:24
sebsebsebthe stuff on thatFeb 21 00:24
DaemonFCUbuntu has built in support for a lot of really old and obscure crap in their kconfigFeb 21 00:24
DaemonFCeven at the cost of overhead on modern systemsFeb 21 00:24
DaemonFC:/Feb 21 00:24
nisshhsebsebseb, i vaguely remember seeing  blog post about itFeb 21 00:24
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah there was a blog post on omgubuntu about it for exampleFeb 21 00:24
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sebsebseband then people could message them on twitter whilst it was going onFeb 21 00:24
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DaemonFCdoes anything even use dnotify anymore?Feb 21 00:24
sebsebseb,but after the day, they did another blog post about itFeb 21 00:24
DaemonFCwe've had inotify for 7 years nowFeb 21 00:24
sebsebseband what the staff thought and suchFeb 21 00:24
nisshhDaemonFC, heheFeb 21 00:25
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DaemonFCunless they're shipping GNOME 2.0, I think it's safe to ditch thatFeb 21 00:25
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 00:25
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yep Gnome 2 as the fall back for Ubuntu 11.04Feb 21 00:26
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and probably Unity 2D made with QT, as the fall back for 11.10Feb 21 00:26
DaemonFCKDE 3.x used to use dnotify but it was replaced with inotify by the end of that seriesFeb 21 00:26
DaemonFCGNOME 2 has switched to inotifyFeb 21 00:26
sebsebsebnisshh: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/11/running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu-the-verdict/Feb 21 00:26
nisshhsebsebseb, i have Unity 2d installed here, works very well, its extremely fastFeb 21 00:26
DaemonFCI meant really old versions of GNOME 2Feb 21 00:26
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sebsebsebnisshh: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/02/11/running-pc-pro-on-ubuntu-the-verdict/Feb 21 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Running PC Pro on Ubuntu: the verdict | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 117.15 KBFeb 21 00:27
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah Unity 2D, I was going to vm it, but haven't yetFeb 21 00:27
sebsebsebnisshh: I did do the Ubuntu 11.04 fall back in vm thoughFeb 21 00:27
nisshhsebsebseb, i mean, i have it install on maverick hereFeb 21 00:27
DaemonFCthis kernel has brainfuck cpu scheduler :) heheFeb 21 00:27
nisshhthey backported itFeb 21 00:27
sebsebsebnisshh: and being a Ubuntu Community Member, well  that will make you look like a Canonical supporter for most stuff, as I basically told you beforeFeb 21 00:28
sebsebsebnisshh: and as a result, certain people won't like thatFeb 21 00:28
DaemonFCI dug up some patches to the patch for 2.6.37 patch and patched the patch and patched the patched patch into my kernel source, using patchFeb 21 00:28
sebsebsebbasicalleyFeb 21 00:28
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 00:28
sebsebsebnisshh: Ubuntu Community Member aka fan boy :DFeb 21 00:28
sebsebsebnisshh: well not really or not quite, but I think you get what I mean :)Feb 21 00:28
sebsebsebor yeah fan girl, if they are femaleFeb 21 00:28
sebsebsebnisshh: in some ways it would be good to be one, in other ways it woudn't, and that's for you to think about, and then decide what to doFeb 21 00:29
nisshhDaemonFC, uh, what? you patched the patch and patched the patched patch?Feb 21 00:30
sebsebsebplus you could still be one I guess, even if you start mainly using other distro's :)Feb 21 00:30
nisshhsebsebseb, yeahFeb 21 00:30
sebsebsebnisshh: going back to the main streame and masses thing, in a way we are cool, because we use Desktop Linux, and have an idea what things are aboutFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebon the other hand ifFeb 21 00:31
nisshhsebsebseb, im not really a fanboy, i just use Ubuntu because it works, plus im still tied to itFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebmost computer users did so,  we woudn't be cool anymoreFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebnow the masses do, and so how boring how uncoolFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebsee what I mean?Feb 21 00:31
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:31
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebnisshh: in fact sometime last year someone trolled the big Ubuntu channel,  and I pm'd them, and he was apparnatly a 16 year old Fedora uesrFeb 21 00:31
sebsebsebnisshh: and I was like why?Feb 21 00:31
DaemonFCironic that this was for the brain fuck schedulerFeb 21 00:31
DaemonFCcause that's what my brain feels like after thatFeb 21 00:32
sebsebsebnisshh: and I probably said that I didn't particuarly like it anymore either.  Anyway he basically said that he was doing it, because he didn't like it, he didn't want Ubuntu to go main streame, because then he woudn't be cool anymoreFeb 21 00:32
nisshhsebsebseb, heh, that is strange, evidently that user was an Ubuntu hateeFeb 21 00:32
nisshhhater*Feb 21 00:32
nisshhlolFeb 21 00:32
DaemonFCI left out all the non-PC optionsFeb 21 00:33
DaemonFCI left out the embedded and laptop-specific crapFeb 21 00:33
DaemonFCI left out the drivers for Crapple hardwareFeb 21 00:33
DaemonFCetc.Feb 21 00:33
sebsebsebnisshh: I used to feel like that, though when I was like 17 or whateverFeb 21 00:33
sebsebsebnisshh: that I was cool in a way, for using Linux distro'sFeb 21 00:33
DaemonFCI also left out most of the file systems to speed up the compileFeb 21 00:34
nisshhsebsebseb, i dont consider myself "cool" for using Linux, i just think that i have atleast half a brain for choosing Linux over windows/mac :)Feb 21 00:34
sebsebsebnisshh: I used to think I was cool or something, at the same time really, that I knew how to draw on MSN messenger, and other people who I was sort of friends with at the time in a way or not quite, wanted to know how, and I woudn't sayFeb 21 00:34
DaemonFCit's only building XFS and Ext4Feb 21 00:34
nisshhDaemonFC, niceFeb 21 00:34
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah bingoFeb 21 00:34
sebsebsebnisshh: we feel like we are something that we are reasonably clever and such, because we use Linux distro's :) and know about them, and know what things are about and yeahFeb 21 00:35
nisshhsebsebseb, i never once thought i would be considered cool for using LinuxFeb 21 00:35
DaemonFCXFS is in the kernel image, Ext4 is a module because I won't use it unless I have to mount some flash storageFeb 21 00:35
nisshhi just used it because it was betterFeb 21 00:35
DaemonFCit can read ext2 and ext3 anyway, why build two more file systems? :P:Feb 21 00:35
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah same here, I use it  because  Linux distro's are rather ideal for my computer useage, my proper computer useageFeb 21 00:35
sebsebsebwhat I tend to doFeb 21 00:35
nisshhDaemonFC, this is 2.6.38 your compiling?Feb 21 00:35
sebsebseband sure on top of that, I like the whole thing about source code being given awayFeb 21 00:35
DaemonFCno, 2.6.37.1Feb 21 00:35
nisshhsebsebseb, exactlyFeb 21 00:35
sebsebseband mainly programmed by voluntersFeb 21 00:35
nisshhDaemonFC, ah, ok, what distro you using?Feb 21 00:36
DaemonFCCatalyst doesn't support 2.6.38 yet unless ou want to apply patches to the kernel that I'm not comfortable withFeb 21 00:36
nisshhsebsebseb, yeahFeb 21 00:36
sebsebsebnisshh: and not having to worry about getting malware at this time as well, but that is something that will change, if Ubuntu or whatever go main streameFeb 21 00:36
DaemonFCKubuntuFeb 21 00:36
nisshhDaemonFC, ah, i didnt know that :)Feb 21 00:36
sebsebsebnisshh: yep Ubuntu goes main streame, and along comes much more malware for Linux distro's and that actsaully works on themFeb 21 00:36
nisshhah, KubuntuFeb 21 00:36
sebsebsebnisshh: and as good as Linux distro's are and all, they have security issues as wellFeb 21 00:36
DaemonFCthe patches are from Arch Linux and while they get Catalyst to work, they do it in such a way that can cause it to become unstable and lock the system upFeb 21 00:37
nisshhof courseFeb 21 00:37
DaemonFCI think I'll wait for AMDFeb 21 00:37
sebsebsebnisshh: Linux has already gone main stame, not desktop LInux thoughFeb 21 00:37
sebsebsebyeah serversFeb 21 00:37
sebsebsebAndroidFeb 21 00:37
sebsebsebfor exampleFeb 21 00:37
DaemonFCalso, I noticed some bugs in the latest XFS driver that can cause data loss with delaylogFeb 21 00:38
DaemonFCI'm not turning off delaylog to run 2.6.38Feb 21 00:38
nisshhsebsebseb, exactly, once Ubuntu eventually passes windows in market share, malware networks and ad companies will see the need to spread over to LinuxFeb 21 00:38
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway in a way some people shoudn't be alloweed to use their own computer online with any OS, unless they know how to keep it secure enough online, and no I don't mean anti virus, I mean limited accounts and sandboxes maybe, and that kind of thingFeb 21 00:38
nisshhi would rather die than let that happenFeb 21 00:38
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:38
sebsebsebnisshh: well whilst you support Ubuntu and help to get it out there to people,  you help to make something like that happenFeb 21 00:39
DaemonFCgood luck, Linux changes too often to even keep up with the handful of patches I like to apply to itFeb 21 00:39
DaemonFC(and drivers)Feb 21 00:39
DaemonFCI'd love to see worms keep up with thisFeb 21 00:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well malware can run in home folderFeb 21 00:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: for exampleFeb 21 00:39
nisshhsebsebseb, i havent recommended Ubuntu to anyone in the last year or soFeb 21 00:39
sebsebsebjavascript malware that targets all Firefox's for exampleFeb 21 00:39
DaemonFCFirefox is garbageFeb 21 00:39
nisshhsebsebseb, im no longer proud of telling people what distro i useFeb 21 00:39
sebsebseband not just FIrefoxFeb 21 00:39
DaemonFCI believe I've expressed my opinion on that beforeFeb 21 00:40
sebsebsebnisshh: :)Feb 21 00:40
nisshhDaemonFC, what do you use?Feb 21 00:40
sebsebsebnisshh: ok sounds like it's time to quit as an Ubuntu community member, really thenFeb 21 00:40
DaemonFCOpera/Konqueror with kwebkitpartFeb 21 00:40
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah so many other distro's out there, that you will enjoy more :)Feb 21 00:40
DaemonFCI stole the kpart-webkit 0.9.6 out of NattyFeb 21 00:40
nisshhDaemonFC, tried FF 4.0?Feb 21 00:40
DaemonFCit's a lot more stable than the one in Maverick and doesn't have dependencies, so it's easy enough to revert if it starts doing bad things :)Feb 21 00:41
sebsebsebnisshh: How did you become a community memeber anyway, by the way?Feb 21 00:41
nisshhsebsebseb, i know, i personally love Arch/GentooFeb 21 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @peternowak There are few bigger scams in this world than the racket that is printer ink. Where are the antitrust authorities on this?Feb 21 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ brysongilbert I'd link to Macleans editorial abt !UBB but the sheer CRTC-and-Bell-ass-kissing clusterfuckery of it might explode iPhone.Feb 21 00:41
DaemonFCyeah, I compiled Firefox 4 Beta 11 yesterdayFeb 21 00:41
nisshhby contributing to a bunch of projectsFeb 21 00:41
sebsebsebnisshh: also it seems your not that keen on Unity really?  well that's  the new interface for Ubuntu desktop as well starting with 11.04Feb 21 00:41
DaemonFCall optimizations enabled, all system libraries used where possibleFeb 21 00:41
nisshhDaemonFC, you atleast have to admit that FF 4.0 is better than 3.6Feb 21 00:41
DaemonFClinked it against libjpeg-turboFeb 21 00:41
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 00:41
sebsebsebnisshh: Sabayon ever tried that? easy version of Gentoo with codecs and such, basicalleyFeb 21 00:41
nisshhsebsebseb, i know, dude, im not a noob :)Feb 21 00:42
sebsebsebnisshh: ok, and Ubuntu is seen as a noobs distro as wellFeb 21 00:42
DaemonFCnisshh, They're skipping out on the best optimization of them allFeb 21 00:42
nisshhyeah, i tried sabayon in a VM, didnt really like it too muchFeb 21 00:42
DaemonFClibjpeg-turbo is so much better than libjpegFeb 21 00:42
DaemonFCload a huge jpeg with both of them and tell me which one you want to use every dayFeb 21 00:42
DaemonFCOpera 11.10's snapshot is using turbo nowFeb 21 00:42
sebsebsebnisshh: some people would be like,  oh I am loyal to Ubuntu, because it was my first distro, blah de blah,  uh ok sure right, but if Ubuntu wasn't the most popular, they would have probably gone to another user friendly distro such as Mandriva for example.  Mandrake/Mandriva was the most popular on the desktop before Ubuntu came along, and before they had some serious company issues at the time, such as being sued over old nameFeb 21 00:43
nisshhsebsebseb, just so your aware, im not some clueless Ubuntu guy, i know much more than your standard noobFeb 21 00:43
DaemonFCit's possible to beat sanity into UbuntuFeb 21 00:43
DaemonFCusing Kubuntu is a good step 1Feb 21 00:43
sebsebsebnisshh: in fact Jono Bacon used to use Mandriva, but if asking him what distro's he used to use or what distro he would use instead of UbuntuFeb 21 00:43
sebsebsebnisshh: I mean in the ustream if asking what distro he would use instead of Ubuntu, he would be like Debian, then Fedora, and then OpenSuse it seems hmmFeb 21 00:44
nisshhyeah, iv heard him mention thatFeb 21 00:44
sebsebsebnisshh: I wonder what I would have to ask for him to say MandrivaFeb 21 00:44
DaemonFCI think Mandriva is also a good choice for end usersFeb 21 00:44
DaemonFCFedora is more developer-orientedFeb 21 00:44
nisshhive never tried mandrivaFeb 21 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @peternowak Here's a thought: why doesn't Telus sell broadband in Ontario and Bell in B.C.? !StopUBB #crtc #competition #FAILFeb 21 00:44
sebsebsebnisshh: well  the fork is interestingFeb 21 00:44
DaemonFCyou can turn it into a desktop but it's not meant primarily for thatFeb 21 00:44
sebsebsebnisshh: already reallyFeb 21 00:44
nisshhive tried everything but mandriva prettymuch :)Feb 21 00:44
sebsebsebnisshh: the latest Mandriva forkFeb 21 00:44
sebsebsebnisshh: even though it's jsut alpha 1, with tempory graphics and yeahFeb 21 00:45
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebMageia :)Feb 21 00:45
nisshhoh, i havent actually tried any of the *BSD's yetFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebnisshh: PC Linux OS started off as a Mandriva fork as well back in 2007, was apparnaty more popualr than Ubuntu for a while as wellFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebuntill ad eveloper died or whateverFeb 21 00:45
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:45
DaemonFCUbuntu has PPA's, which are a big helpFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebnow PCLOS is more of it's own thing or so they sayFeb 21 00:45
nisshhive tried PCLOSFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebnisshh: BSD yeah I nearly vm'd FreeBSD, but some issue or whateverFeb 21 00:45
DaemonFCI hate how distros without those just stick with a package and if it breaks, oh wellFeb 21 00:45
sebsebsebwhen did you try PCLOS? I am currently using thatFeb 21 00:46
nisshhlast yearFeb 21 00:46
nisshhi tried itFeb 21 00:46
sebsebsebyeah nice distro really, even thoughFeb 21 00:46
nisshhused it for like, 3 daysFeb 21 00:46
sebsebsebI had some well issues with soundFeb 21 00:46
sebsebsebplaying OGG even untill I installed something, and so onFeb 21 00:46
nisshhit worked well for me, just wasnt my kind of distroFeb 21 00:46
sebsebsebalso they are a dab to stable at times I would say, hence not even a older Gnome Shell in the reposFeb 21 00:46
sebsebsebnisshh: not your kind of distro why?Feb 21 00:46
nisshhi loved Gentoo so much i actually used it for about 5 weeksFeb 21 00:47
nisshhsebsebseb, too shiny :)Feb 21 00:47
sebsebsebnisshh: ok Gentoo,  Arch, Slackware maybe even,  sure go use thoseFeb 21 00:47
nisshhclunkyFeb 21 00:47
sebsebsebnisshh: and stop being a community memeber of a noobs distro :DFeb 21 00:47
DaemonFCbuild-dep firefox in Ubuntu is still meant to build Firefox 3.6Feb 21 00:47
nisshhhehFeb 21 00:47
sebsebsebnisshh: one that seems to want to do the opposite of what you want anywayFeb 21 00:47
sebsebseband that is yep go main streameFeb 21 00:47
DaemonFCif you build 4.0, it'll keep stopping to complain about more devel packages you don't have :)Feb 21 00:47
nisshhDaemonFC, i didnt compile from source, i used the FF daily PPA :)Feb 21 00:48
DaemonFCthe daily ppa uses statically linked everythingFeb 21 00:48
nisshhi dont tend to compile much from source, im on a really old machineFeb 21 00:48
sebsebsebnisshh: uh this is online, maybe your lieing, about the liking more  complex distro's,  so you don't look like a noob :D heh hehFeb 21 00:48
DaemonFCincluding libjpegFeb 21 00:48
nisshhan 8 year old P4Feb 21 00:48
DaemonFCand it has a lot of debug crap built-inFeb 21 00:48
DaemonFCbrbFeb 21 00:48
nisshhsebsebseb, think im bullshitting? i genuinely used Gentoo for 5 weeks dudeFeb 21 00:49
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sebsebsebnisshh: I was joking :)Feb 21 00:49
nisshhhehFeb 21 00:49
sebsebsebnisshh: you don't seem like a lier to me, but this is only online text, so what do I know?Feb 21 00:49
nisshhhehFeb 21 00:49
nisshhi wouldnt lie to appear coolFeb 21 00:49
nisshhi dont see the needFeb 21 00:49
sebsebsebnisshh: Gentoo community member?  Arch community? Slackware community memeber?  Well if you do something proper for  those distro's, you should be able to get a cloack and that for themFeb 21 00:50
nisshhheh, yeahFeb 21 00:51
sebsebsebnisshh: what did you do for Ubuntu exaclty to become a member? and what did you find out about upstream and such?Feb 21 00:51
sebsebseband how?Feb 21 00:51
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sebsebsebwhen did you find out about upstream and such and why?Feb 21 00:51
DaemonFCLinux ryan-livingroom 2.6.37.1-ck2-ryan2-bfs1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 20 19:26:16 EST 2011 x86_64 GNU/LinuxFeb 21 00:52
DaemonFCheheFeb 21 00:52
sebsebsebnisshh: well?Feb 21 00:52
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway I think a good distro becoming well about as pouplar as Ubuntu, and that isn't based on it, should be ok reallyFeb 21 00:53
nisshhsorry, was reading a blog postFeb 21 00:53
sebsebsebnisshh: and yeah a new distro based on Mandriva, such as the one I mentioend, well in about two years time, that may become that :)Feb 21 00:54
sebsebsebwhat I don't want is Ubuntu to go main streameFeb 21 00:54
nisshhsebsebseb, i contributed to several projects, namely, the Ubuntu Manual, the Ubuntu Developer Manual, Quickly, Quickly, Widgets, the Bugsquad, etcFeb 21 00:54
sebsebseb,but another distro going more main streame or whatever on the other hand, that will hopefuly be okFeb 21 00:54
sebsebsebnisshh: ah yes the manual stuffFeb 21 00:54
nisshhim also a part of a fair few teamsFeb 21 00:55
sebsebsebalso ideally a community distro 100% community distro being the number one most used Linux distro on the desktop, well yeah that would really be something :)Feb 21 00:55
sebsebsebnisshh: and you would quit all that, to get more invovled with Arch or Gentoo or whatever?Feb 21 00:55
sebsebsebnisshh: Ubuntu was like a growing up stage for me,  I used to promote it here and there to people I knew in person sometimes not often, people online, and such,  when I thought it was really great, and I was youngerFeb 21 00:56
sebsebsebnisshh: and I used to yeah do a lot of online support for it,  when I was imatture and depressed basicalleyFeb 21 00:57
nisshhsebsebseb, not "more involved" i would simply use a different distroFeb 21 00:57
sebsebsebnisshh: and still do your Ubuntu stuff?Feb 21 00:57
nisshhdunnoFeb 21 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Ambassador to UK on Assange. Listen very closely http://alturl.com/mx3mj !wlFeb 21 00:58
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nisshhlike i said earlier, i am considering itFeb 21 00:58
sebsebsebnisshh: can start to mainly use another distro, whilst keeping your Ubuntu cloak I guessFeb 21 00:58
sebsebsebnisshh: Ubuntu was like a stage of my life, where I had quite a lot of problems really, and helping with Ubuntu was something I could do, instead of just wasting loads of time basicaleyFeb 21 00:59
nisshhyeahFeb 21 00:59
sebsebsebI mean when I did IRC support and such a lot of thatFeb 21 00:59
sebsebsebplus I wanted to prove to myself, that I was a good support person, something I did quite a few times, when doing thatFeb 21 00:59
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sebsebsebnisshh: I mean I already knew I was,  but wanted to prove it to myself even more,  a few issues on the way whilst trying to do that though, but anywayFeb 21 01:01
sebsebseband I used toFeb 21 01:01
sebsebsebtry and get other people using Ubuntu at times mainly, beause I thought it was great, but I also didn't really understand about things much, I mean like upstreams and suchFeb 21 01:01
nisshhyeahFeb 21 01:01
sebsebsebnisshh: I was fortunate enough to get in contact with a guy, when 9.04 was in development here on IRC, who well started educating me a bit basicalleyFeb 21 01:02
sebsebsebabout upstream Gnome and suchFeb 21 01:02
sebsebsebplus it was a time where I didn't like how the shut down and log out got moved to the right and such, and then so on from thereFeb 21 01:02
sebsebsebnisshh: from then, and now, well things  have changed quite a lot for me, when it comes to Desktop LinuxFeb 21 01:03
sebsebseband in a good way :)Feb 21 01:03
nisshhyeahFeb 21 01:03
sebsebseband I would help out with 9.04 and 9.10 and 10.04 on IRC loads of peple and such, even though I wasn't that keen on itFeb 21 01:03
sebsebseband then around 10.10 I started to get much more frustrated about this, how I would do the same stuff all the time, and how people woudn't be properly thankful at times and all thatFeb 21 01:04
sebsebseband uhFeb 21 01:04
sebsebseband then whilst I was away on holiday,  and was able to go online with limited time,  20 minutesFeb 21 01:04
sebsebsebdidn't know untill about the 3rd or 4th day though anyway, whilst online, on this shared computer at the hotelFeb 21 01:05
sebsebsebthe resortFeb 21 01:05
sebsebsebI read that indeed Ubuntu would be going Unity, and before this, someone who worked on Compiz told me how they would use Compiz and how that was bad and so on.  and this guy I was on about earlier, wasn't keen on the way Ubuntu  has been going since 9.04 was in development.  and all that,  and yeah I basically ende up thinking, yep they are kind of forking Gnome, and I read stuff onlineFeb 21 01:06
sebsebseband well it was enough!Feb 21 01:06
sebsebsebthat's itFeb 21 01:06
sebsebsebI decidedFeb 21 01:06
sebsebsebThat's it, I decided, that's it!  I am not going to help loads in #ubuntu anymore, or not as muchFeb 21 01:06
sebsebsebnisshh: and yeah I have quit the channel for now, and it feels great :)  altough I did join very briefly whenever it was now, but I didn't do supportFeb 21 01:07
sebsebsebnisshh: and I didn't want to help much with Ubuntu 10.10 anyway, same issues as before reallyFeb 21 01:07
sebsebsebnisshh: I really care about Desktop Linux though and this kind of stuff,  it's been a big part of my life since 2004Feb 21 01:08
sebsebsebso yeah I feel like I got to keep an eye on Ubuntu and what's going on here and there, and try it out sometimes myself, development versions and yeah, because yeah like it or not, it will be the most popular distro on the desktop for quite some  time yetFeb 21 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous, Atlas Shrugged, George Washington, Science Fiction, And Disruptive Technologies - http://bit.ly/eiIPGJ #Anonymous #ethicsFeb 21 01:09
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sebsebsebnisshh: so yeah Ubuntu is a bit like Windows,  good to keep an eye on at times, to see what's going on, because going to be used by many peopleFeb 21 01:10
nisshhyeahFeb 21 01:10
sebsebsebnisshh: what's kind of odd though in a way or not really, but is how I am not even running my current favourite distro on here at the moment, yep MandrivaFeb 21 01:11
sebsebseboh sure it's still on the other computer, but I don't tend to use that oneFeb 21 01:11
nisshhyeahFeb 21 01:11
sebsebsebnisshh: wel I only really got two computers here that I can put Linux on, and since the other has other users as well,  I keep on Mandriva and since that distro is so great really :)Feb 21 01:11
sebsebsebthe current versionFeb 21 01:11
sebsebsebwell the old computer next to me, if the graphics card or whatever was in it, could be used for something, but it's got 128MB RAM hmm,  and yeahFeb 21 01:12
sebsebsebnisshh: and I typed a load again, I don't know how much of that you actsaulley read thoughFeb 21 01:12
sebsebsebnisshh: By the way do you have a job at all?Feb 21 01:13
Diablo-D3[08:08:40] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous, Atlas Shrugged, George Washington, Science Fiction, And Disruptive Technologies - http://bit.ly/eiIPGJ #Anonymous #ethicsFeb 21 01:32
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Diablo-D3which of these do NOT belongFeb 21 01:32
nisshhsebsebseb, no, i dont have a jobFeb 21 01:43
nisshhnot currentlyFeb 21 01:43
sebsebsebnisshh: ok that explains why your sleeping can be messed up themFeb 21 01:43
sebsebsebthenFeb 21 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: US Ambassador to UK on Assange. Listen very closely http://youtube.com/watch?v=TdbiAI3dQ0Y http://bit.ly/dERuhrFeb 21 01:44
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nisshhsebsebseb, hehFeb 21 01:45
sebsebsebnisshh: I don't have a job at the moment either, so yep my sleeping  is rather messed up as wellFeb 21 01:45
nisshhyeahFeb 21 01:46
sebsebsebnisshh: and last time I slept I slept a lot, since dreamland was so enjoyable :)Feb 21 01:46
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway I really don't get tired anymore, unless  I been awake maybe like 17 to  20/22/24 hoursFeb 21 01:47
sebsebsebnisshh: ,but I don't  tend to do about 19 hour day so hmmFeb 21 01:47
sebsebsebwhich means a lot of going to sleep, when not feeling tired, hmmFeb 21 01:47
sebsebsebnisshh: are you about as messed up as me?Feb 21 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @_matilda__ ♺ @ddjango Gaddafi leaves Libya: Report http://ur1.ca/3atuw #FreedomFeb 21 01:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @exiledsurfer Al Jazeera Arabic is reporting that the source of their signal being jammed is the Libyan intelligence building. #libyaFeb 21 01:51
sebsebsebnisshh: however I sleep once comfortable enough in bed basically, day or nightFeb 21 01:51
nisshhsebsebseb, sameFeb 21 01:51
sebsebsebnisshh: and I don't enjoy being up all night a lot anymoreFeb 21 01:52
sebsebseband that's been quite a whileFeb 21 01:52
sebsebsebnisshh: oh so your like me when i comes to sleeping?Feb 21 01:52
sebsebsebnisshh: anyway now you see,  why I don't tend to do Good morning !identiverse either :DFeb 21 01:53
sebsebsebor Goodnight !identiverseFeb 21 01:54
sebsebsebnisshh: in fact have I ever done those, well once for  Goodnight !identiverse, but then didn't sleep for hours after hmm and suchFeb 21 01:54
sebsebsebwould be nice to have a normal sleeping pattern again reallyFeb 21 01:55
sebsebsebI guessFeb 21 01:55
sebsebsebnot so simple to do that thoughFeb 21 01:55
sebsebsebwhen theings are like thisFeb 21 01:55
sebsebsebnisshh: What do you tend to do by the way?Feb 21 01:57
DaemonFChah, Linux has a device driver for my phone nowFeb 21 02:01
DaemonFCcoolFeb 21 02:01
sebsebsebDaemonFC: whoops,  the Swedish guy whoFeb 21 02:06
sebsebsebwell I know a bit onlineFeb 21 02:06
sebsebsebhe thought a open source version of Opera could be madeFeb 21 02:06
DaemonFCthey've said open sourcing it would hurt their competitiveness in mobile platformsFeb 21 02:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well they make most of their money as far as I know, because it's in mobile phones yeahFeb 21 02:08
DaemonFCI believe them, since that's pretty cut throat right now and being able to sign distribution deals hinges on yours being better than the other optionsFeb 21 02:08
DaemonFCI think the only reason there are ports to Linux and FreeBSD is because some Opera developers prefer working on Linux or FreeBSDFeb 21 02:08
DaemonFCtheir code is obviously very portableFeb 21 02:09
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Open Opera stuff yeah:  https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110220/thread.htmlFeb 21 02:09
sebsebseb https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110220/thread.htmlFeb 21 02:09
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DaemonFCit's probably trivial to maintain on *nixFeb 21 02:09
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: and exxcept the certificate to get on thatFeb 21 02:09
DaemonFCOpera is more consistent between platforms than Firefox isFeb 21 02:10
DaemonFCyou'd think that Firefox, being open source and all wouldn't have such a backwards Linux portFeb 21 02:10
DaemonFCyet they do... :)Feb 21 02:10
DaemonFCOpera does contribute to the free/open source software stacks they use, in OperaFeb 21 02:11
DaemonFCand they implement W3C specifications, not extend themFeb 21 02:11
DaemonFCI don't see what's with all the Opera hate :)Feb 21 02:11
DaemonFCalso, as I mentioned before, they have an excellent Linux port which meets or exceeds the Windows versionFeb 21 02:12
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uh who's providing Opera hate?Feb 21 02:12
DaemonFCthe opposite is true of FirefoxFeb 21 02:12
sebsebsebOpera is closed source, and I think uses bing now as the search, but as a browser well it's ok reallyFeb 21 02:12
sebsebsebbetter than Internet Explorer by a long wayFeb 21 02:12
DaemonFCmeh, I've heard several in here ripping on OperaFeb 21 02:12
DaemonFCthey contribute a lot, just not their particular source codeFeb 21 02:12
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Firefox is good as well :)Feb 21 02:12
DaemonFCthey have repositories providing gstreamer patches though, for exampleFeb 21 02:13
DaemonFCthey promote open standardsFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebrepos proving gstreamer patches oh?Feb 21 02:13
DaemonFCsome of their employees have written those standards, which work well even in competing softwareFeb 21 02:13
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 02:13
sebsebseband yeah I know Opera give back or whatever to W3C or whateverFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebalso if it wasnt' for OperFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebaFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebno browser choice screen in the EUFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and when I tried it out for real back in JanFeb 21 02:13
sebsebsebwhen I was re doing my brother's lap top completlyFeb 21 02:13
DaemonFCthey support WebM nicelyFeb 21 02:13
DaemonFCand it's through the Gstreamer code in OperaFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebDaemonFC: so yeah had XP on there, and hadn't put a browser inFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebsoFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebI did the updates and got the choice screen, what I found intersting was that the brwoser for WindowsFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebthat can do three rendering engines,  IE,  Gecko, and Webkit or whateverFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebwas being provided, I don't remember seeing that being offered befoer when I was on the site about itFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebalso K-Melon was being offered that time :)  in Jan when I had itFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebK-Melon wasn't offered beforeFeb 21 02:14
sebsebsebso I guess they had changed it a bit, since I last saw it on a site, and JanFeb 21 02:15
sebsebsebgood stuff though :)Feb 21 02:15
sebsebsebSeamonkey lacking though :(Feb 21 02:15
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ,but yeah if Opera hadn't done a Netscape and complained to the Euroepan Comission no browser choice screenFeb 21 02:15
DaemonFCKMeleon is pointlessFeb 21 02:16
DaemonFCit's Windows only and slower than FirefoxFeb 21 02:16
sebsebsebit's Windows only yesFeb 21 02:16
DaemonFCand they're several Gecko versions behind, usuallyFeb 21 02:16
DaemonFCwith lots of known vulnerabilitiesFeb 21 02:17
sebsebsebit has a nice logo, and nice theme, and is a very customisable browser really, butFeb 21 02:17
sebsebsebit tends to use old GeckoFeb 21 02:17
sebsebsebtends to be based on quite a old version of Gecko so hmmFeb 21 02:17
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with using old software as long as it's a stable branch and maintained with bug fixesFeb 21 02:17
sebsebsebalso it's meant to run better than Firefox on Windows, since can use some of the Windows only stuffFeb 21 02:17
DaemonFCusing old versions of Gecko are a way to set yourself up for attakFeb 21 02:17
DaemonFC*attackFeb 21 02:17
sebsebsebyeah it seems to be using old Gecko's like I was sayingFeb 21 02:18
sebsebsebthey don't tend to update K-Melon that oftenFeb 21 02:18
DaemonFCFirefox 3.5 is still maintained, Firefox 3.0 is for a while longerFeb 21 02:18
DaemonFCanything older than that has been long abandonedFeb 21 02:18
DaemonFCbut there's still people out there with Firefox 2Feb 21 02:18
sebsebsebno I think FIrefox 3.0 they stopped maintaining last year some timeFeb 21 02:18
sebsebsebhowever Ubuntu 8.04 or whatever, would still have that FIrefox, because that has Ubuntu patchesFeb 21 02:18
sebsebsebor whateverFeb 21 02:18
DaemonFCahhhFeb 21 02:18
DaemonFCwell, it's unwise to use unmaintained softwareFeb 21 02:19
DaemonFCthere's still people using old Netscape browsersFeb 21 02:19
DaemonFCor IE 6Feb 21 02:19
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 02:19
DaemonFCit's just not smartFeb 21 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] seems like internet speeds have been cranked down...Feb 21 02:21
sebsebsebDaemonFC: IE 6 is still supported by Microsoft though when it comes to security updatesFeb 21 02:22
sebsebsebDaemonFC: for now, since XP got extended supportFeb 21 02:22
DaemonFCIE 6 and XP aren't actually maintainedFeb 21 02:23
sebsebsebeven Microsoft want people to dump IE 6 now  though, and that's been quite a whileFeb 21 02:23
sebsebseband they want them to get later version of IEFeb 21 02:23
DaemonFCthere's some stuff that Microsoft hasn't patched or even responded toFeb 21 02:23
DaemonFCit's starting to get the Windows 2000 treatmentFeb 21 02:23
sebsebsebI even read that there was some Microsoft guy, who would go to companies and help them dump IE 6Feb 21 02:23
DaemonFCMicrosoft is fixing the stuff they're contractually obligated toFeb 21 02:23
DaemonFCif they can find a way out of supporting XP, they willFeb 21 02:23
sebsebsebDaemonFC: XP is still maintained only if it's SP3 thoughFeb 21 02:24
DaemonFCthat much I can agree withFeb 21 02:24
sebsebsebwhich?Feb 21 02:24
DaemonFCpeople who use Windows should have the latest Service PackFeb 21 02:24
DaemonFCthere's no reason not toFeb 21 02:24
sebsebsebwell yeahFeb 21 02:24
sebsebsebI guessFeb 21 02:24
sebsebsebunlessFeb 21 02:24
DaemonFCthey're free, they fix hundreds of bugs, and sometimes add a feature or twoFeb 21 02:24
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well SP2 gives a new log in screen and extra security features to IE 6Feb 21 02:25
sebsebseblog in screen?Feb 21 02:25
sebsebsebI meant boot up Feb 21 02:25
sebsebsebso unless wanting the old boot up the one that says Home Edition or ProfessionalFeb 21 02:25
sebsebsebWindows XP Home EditionFeb 21 02:25
sebsebsebWindows XP ProfessionalFeb 21 02:25
DaemonFCI remember SP2 removed the Home/Professional designation from the boot screenFeb 21 02:25
sebsebsebor not wanting extra security features to IE 6Feb 21 02:25
sebsebsebfor exampleFeb 21 02:25
sebsebsebthen sure ok SP1 or no SP at allFeb 21 02:25
sebsebsebalsoFeb 21 02:25
sebsebseb6GB hard disks, that still have XP wellFeb 21 02:26
sebsebsebthey probably can't handle SP3, because it will take up to much spaceFeb 21 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: "Journalism Should Not Be Fiction" New Oh !Canada post http://ur1.ca/3au3b !wikiLeaks, #freeBradley #Assange #watchdogpressFeb 21 02:26
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: yes that's what I was on about, they removed from the boot up screen,  XP Home or XP Pro thingFeb 21 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: RT @jeejia: @DJMeddi Please spread the word innocents being massacred infront of post office in Tripoli now #Libya #Feb17Feb 21 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: Less than a year ago, Libya was placed in the United Nations' Human Rights Council http://is.gd/nQZAxV #ridiculousFeb 21 02:28
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: ,but yes in general most XP users should have SP3Feb 21 02:28
sebsebseb,but if people want XP without SP3, probably best to keep that install offline, but really for all Windows installs, best to keep them offline :DFeb 21 02:28
sebsebsebWindows is quite the security risk to have onlineFeb 21 02:28
sebsebsebsince how it's been designed, and since the market share it has, so yep most malware for itFeb 21 02:29
sebsebsebby a long wayFeb 21 02:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: if you think about it, it's kind of funny in a sad way, how loads of Windows users, think they are secure, if they have anti virusFeb 21 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: My govt calls upon Sauron to resign and refrain from further violence upon peaceful protesters. #mordorFeb 21 02:29
sebsebsebso far from the truth that, about being secure with anti virusFeb 21 02:29
DaemonFCthey're only as secure as lat month's patch tuesday left them :)Feb 21 02:30
DaemonFC*lastFeb 21 02:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: since they don't useually prevent malware from getting on in the first place, that can do really bad stuff to their PC, and yep by the time that malware is removed, the bad stuff is still being done with the computerFeb 21 02:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and it's even more funny really, when someone is telling someone else, how great Norton is :DFeb 21 02:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: also all those companies who do backups of there system, and keep on going from a clean install of everything every day or whatever, well,  if one gets infected, in the mean time, that malware can do what it can do, so hmmFeb 21 02:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and the Windows security industry is mainly about making money from ignorance, not about educating people how to keep their computers properly secure enough, shame that really :(Feb 21 02:37
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DaemonFCsebsebseb, The "security" industry lobbies Microsoft to keep Windows brokenFeb 21 03:37
DaemonFCit's an open secretFeb 21 03:37
DaemonFCthey pay Microsoft money to "certify" their security software, and in turn Windows bitches about not having antivirus and sends the user to an advertising page stuffed full of all the "solutions" from their partnersFeb 21 03:39
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 03:39
DaemonFCin some cases, flaws in the antivirus software itself enables malware to install and hide itself, using the broken antivirus to cover up the infectionFeb 21 03:40
DaemonFCthere's several pieces of malware out there which can disable Norton yet keep it reporting that it's functioning normallyFeb 21 03:41
DaemonFCthe people writing this stuff study what the popular antivirus programs do and design the malware accordinglyFeb 21 03:41
DaemonFCthe more popular an antivirus program is, the less likely it is to workFeb 21 03:42
DaemonFCit becomes a victim of its own successFeb 21 03:42
sebsebsebyeah that could be true, the more popular a anti virusFeb 21 03:42
sebsebsebthe more it is targettedFeb 21 03:42
sebsebsebso malware will workFeb 21 03:42
sebsebsebalso yeah I know there is malware that can turn off anti virus or pretty much, and things can still seem normalFeb 21 03:43
DaemonFCNorton and McAfee almost never workFeb 21 03:43
sebsebsebDaemonFC: of course one arguement for all the malware on Windows is this one, it's the most popular OSFeb 21 03:43
DaemonFCand US ISPs like to bombard their customers with "free copies"Feb 21 03:43
DaemonFCit's not worth the RAM it usesFeb 21 03:43
sebsebsebyeah ISP's provide basic security software as well,  some or manyFeb 21 03:43
DaemonFCwell, you can't trap every file system operation without crippling performance of the OSFeb 21 03:44
DaemonFCyou notice how Windows flies until you install antivirus?Feb 21 03:44
sebsebsebyeah anti virus scan slow it downFeb 21 03:44
sebsebsebespesailly if more than one is running as wellFeb 21 03:44
DaemonFCwell, if I go to work on someone's PC, I always disable Windows Defender and let them know whyFeb 21 03:45
sebsebsebWhy, because it sucks?Feb 21 03:45
DaemonFCany antivirus program worth anything already detects more than Defender and Defender just doubles the burden on the systemFeb 21 03:45
DaemonFCa lot of antivirus programs do exactly that, on their own latelyFeb 21 03:46
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 03:46
sebsebsebthey all suck reallyFeb 21 03:46
DaemonFCGiant Antispyware was actually decent until Microsoft bought themFeb 21 03:46
sebsebsebyeah apparnatly soFeb 21 03:46
DaemonFCand started delisting known malware because they got bribed or threatened with lawsuitsFeb 21 03:46
DaemonFCit's so watered down now it's uselessFeb 21 03:47
DaemonFCnow it's just a giant drag on the systemFeb 21 03:47
sebsebsebwhat is it called now? I forgotFeb 21 03:47
DaemonFCit's mainly there as another component to spy on the user and return their data to MicrosoftFeb 21 03:47
DaemonFCWindows DefenderFeb 21 03:47
sebsebsebohFeb 21 03:47
sebsebseb,butFeb 21 03:47
sebsebsebit had a name before that I think?Feb 21 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Minas Tirith reclaimed by free men, Sauron's orcs retreat for now #mordorFeb 21 03:48
sebsebsebI forgot itFeb 21 03:48
DaemonFCWindows AntispywareFeb 21 03:48
sebsebsebI was about to type thatFeb 21 03:48
sebsebsebaltough was that really the name?Feb 21 03:48
sebsebsebanyway Windows hmm yeahFeb 21 03:48
DaemonFCthey changed it because calling spyware what it is attracts libel lawsuits apparentlyFeb 21 03:48
sebsebsebmost of the current versions of most software for it sucks reallyFeb 21 03:48
sebsebsebthe 1990's had great software though a lot of it really for WindowsFeb 21 03:48
sebsebseb,but we can run a lot of that quite nicely in Wine now so :DFeb 21 03:48
DaemonFCif the user has no idea how it got there, I fail to see how these spyware outfits can argue that there was consentFeb 21 03:49
sebsebsebyeahFeb 21 03:49
sebsebsebI guessFeb 21 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The word politics is derived from the word poly meaning many and the word ticks meaning blood sucking parasties #quote Larry HardimanFeb 21 03:49
DaemonFCthere's a number of groups that should be glad I'm not a federal judgeFeb 21 03:49
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 03:49
DaemonFCI'd slap them with fines and jail time to the extent that they wouldn't remember their own name when their sentence was overFeb 21 03:50
DaemonFCa lot of Americans employ foreigners to actually develop and distribute spywareFeb 21 03:50
DaemonFCthat way it doesn't link directly back to themFeb 21 03:51
DaemonFCI wish someone would make an example out of themFeb 21 03:51
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Windows is a right joke when it comes to computer security, but for well computer useage, it can be okFeb 21 03:51
DaemonFCa lot of that crap doesn't even meet the minimal compliance standards of CAN-SPAM, much less the stronger state statutesFeb 21 03:52
sebsebsebCAN-SPAM ???Feb 21 03:52
DaemonFCCalifornia and Washington have some of the strongest anti spam and anti spyware laws in the USFeb 21 03:52
DaemonFCCAN-SPAM was a 2003 federal law regulating spamFeb 21 03:52
sebsebsebohFeb 21 03:52
sebsebsebto bothFeb 21 03:52
DaemonFCa California spammer got 9 years in state prison recentlyFeb 21 03:53
sebsebsebwhy?Feb 21 03:53
DaemonFCbecause that's what the state law allows for there, actually he could be doing 15Feb 21 03:53
DaemonFCbut he didn't get the maxFeb 21 03:54
DaemonFCit's a B Felony to send the amount of spam he didFeb 21 03:54
sebsebsebB Felony?Feb 21 03:54
DaemonFCthat's the same class of crime as Manslaughter in the first degreeFeb 21 03:54
sebsebsebA Felony? C Felony? I don't know, I am not in USA :)Feb 21 03:54
DaemonFCFelonies are the most serious crimes, Misdemeanors are less seriousFeb 21 03:55
sebsebseband that looks like I don't want to live in USA and happy about it ^  well I don't know, what it's like to live there, so maybe I would be, and maybe I woudn't be :DFeb 21 03:55
DaemonFCtypically misdemeanors carry a year or less of jail as the sentenceFeb 21 03:55
sebsebsebI thought felony was all crime? what's a misdermeanors?Feb 21 03:56
DaemonFCfelonies tend to be murders, armed robberies, drug traffickingFeb 21 03:56
DaemonFCmisdemeanors are simple drug possession, assault, etcFeb 21 03:56
DaemonFCtheft under $500 is typically a misdemeanorFeb 21 03:57
DaemonFCthere's a third category in most states called an infractionFeb 21 03:57
sebsebsebno idea what that is either of courseFeb 21 03:57
DaemonFCan infraction is a civil offense, cannot carry jail time, and typically involves a fine of not more than $2500Feb 21 03:57
DaemonFCyes, the codified criminal justice systemFeb 21 03:58
DaemonFCsociety's way of patting itself on the back and saying how civilized it is B-)Feb 21 03:58
DaemonFCsebsebseb, most other western governments refer to crimes as indictable or summary offensesFeb 21 04:02
DaemonFCthose are roughly the same as felony and misdemeanorFeb 21 04:02
DaemonFCfor felonies, you usually have to be indicted by a Grand Jury before a prosecutor can try the caseFeb 21 04:04
DaemonFCif you're under investigation, the prosecutor will usually try to get a silent indictmentFeb 21 04:04
sebsebsebokFeb 21 04:05
DaemonFCthey don't indict you, they indict an "unidentified person" that committed the crime then come arrest youFeb 21 04:05
DaemonFCif they indict you by name, you have the right to come speak to the jury :)Feb 21 04:05
DaemonFCit's important not to let someone know you're observing them or they will change their behaviorFeb 21 04:07
DaemonFCthat applies to everything from scientific studies to criminal investigationsFeb 21 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Israel and Chile cooperated to spy on Iran, WikiLeaks reveals http://is.gd/1f1KOt !wlFeb 21 04:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Govt. failures contributed to rise of neo-paramilitaries: Wikileaks http://is.gd/JAimVF !wlFeb 21 04:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] High-level WikiLeaks debate (video) http://alturl.com/9mrjk !wlFeb 21 04:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks wikileaks: Govt. failures contributed to rise of neo-paramilitaries: Wikileaks http://is.gd/JAimVF http://bit.ly/eQMh1QFeb 21 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Meh, I have a lot of CSE120 to do over the next few days. I really manage to fuck shit up somehowFeb 21 04:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Michael Kaeshammer "Lovelight" ... thos young man is a phenomenal http://www.kaeshammer.com/2009/Feb 21 05:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Cool set of pages showing historical RH Linux 4.2 to Fedora Core 1 #fbFeb 21 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @planetfedora Adam Williamson: It’s Graphics Test Week again: Yup, it’s that time again – Fedora Graphics Test Week! Tuesday i... htt ...Feb 21 05:21
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DaemonFCKolivas recommends disabling dynamic ticks, which I've always done anywayFeb 21 05:28
DaemonFCtickless causes latency that really pisses off PulseaudioFeb 21 05:28
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 05:28
DaemonFCso I found the easiest solution was to just turn it offFeb 21 05:29
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DaemonFCI could have ripped out Pulseaudio but then Adobe Trash can't detect my microphoneFeb 21 05:29
DaemonFCaround and around we go....Feb 21 05:29
DaemonFChe's absolutely right though, when he says there's nothing userland can do about it if the kernel makes stupid scheduling decisionsFeb 21 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Python 3.2 Released: A major update to Python is now available. With Python 3.2 there are improvements spanning ... http://bit.ly/h5SheKFeb 21 05:31
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DaemonFCall you can do is sit back and watch your system get jittery or your audio skipping or *really fun*, have your entire desktop die because the kernel isn't letting anything access the disk because one operation is hogging it allFeb 21 05:31
*DaemonFC thinks the kernel as presented by many distributions borders on being unusable Feb 21 05:31
DaemonFCat least for a desktopFeb 21 05:31
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DaemonFCit's a shame that the kernel developers are so egotistical that they won't merge a scheduler optimized for desktopsFeb 21 05:32
DaemonFChow many of the fucking things do they have in there already for servers?Feb 21 05:33
DaemonFC5 or 6?Feb 21 05:33
DaemonFCI don't recall anyone saying it had to be the default just to be upstreamFeb 21 05:33
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 05:33
DaemonFCthough in many ways, the basic first in first out scheduler that's been there since the dawn of time works better than CFSFeb 21 05:34
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Oh dear a baby girl has been called Facebook:  http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/19/facebook-egypt-newborn/Feb 21 05:37
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DaemonFCattention whore mothersFeb 21 05:38
DaemonFCI bet her kid is going to love her for this :PFeb 21 05:38
sebsebsebDaemonFC: no it was the father that did itFeb 21 05:38
DaemonFCthat's a new oneFeb 21 05:39
DaemonFCit's usually women that think this shit upFeb 21 05:39
DaemonFC"hmmm, I'll go to a fertility clinic and have 8 more kids to put on welfare!"Feb 21 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] CSE120 reminds me that I hate myself.Feb 21 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @AJELive: #AlJazeera guest reports that injured protesters arriving at #Tripoli hospitals are being killed by pro-gov forces #LibyaFeb 21 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @stewartalexj ♺ @NSlayton Saif #Gaddafi blamed !Canada for chaos... 1st time someone's blamed Canada for war outside of South Park #libyaFeb 21 05:44
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?33500-FYI-Natty-Narwahl-just-went-Gallium-on-EvergreenFeb 21 05:46
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DaemonFCapparently they're not all braindeadFeb 21 05:46
DaemonFCGallium is far superior to classic MesaFeb 21 05:47
DaemonFCclassic Mesa driver for the Evergreen can only just run Sauerbraten at lowest settings, and it fails to render certain textures, like the weapon your guy is holdingFeb 21 05:48
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 05:48
DaemonFCGallium3d is about three times faster and supports most of OpenGL 3Feb 21 05:48
DaemonFCit's not exactly a speed demon, but it is faster and far more feature completeFeb 21 05:48
DaemonFCI've been wondering why it's not the default in upstream alreadyFeb 21 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @davidakin @Org9 Tweeted source yesterday but here it is again: Costs of Crime in Canada http://ur1.ca/3av65Feb 21 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Of course, this year will have a HUGE jump in 'the cost of crime in !Canada' since charges & arrests and incarceration of #G20 #cdnpoliFeb 21 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @trmanco: ♻ @starkness Anonymous hates hate? Anon's next target: "god hates fags" Westboro Baptist Church. http://bit.ly/heXrYsFeb 21 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Morocco : Thousands March for Reform http://ur1.ca/3av6m #freedomFeb 21 05:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: 'number of Americans who die every year from #smoking...exceeds number of Americans who died..in WWII' http://ur1.ca/3as7vFeb 21 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 'it's comforting 2 focus on bizarrely small risks bc we don't want to give up things that r pleasurable' http://ur1.ca/3as7vFeb 21 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China police break up 'protests' after online appeal http://ur1.ca/3av6y it spreads East, tooFeb 21 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Feb 22 is last day of the #FreeByron Preliminary Hearing and marks Byron Sonne's 8th month incarcerated due to punitive denial of bailFeb 21 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wealthy call upon govt to fund their employees under the label "intern" implying they get training http://tighturl.com/2yk9 #politicsFeb 21 05:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I seem to remember many companies like their interns to work for free, not even paid expensesFeb 21 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Gaddafi's son warns of civil war AKA we'll turn the wrath of the govt resources on anyone who dares to remove us http://tighturl.com/2ykaFeb 21 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reports about Libya's leader fleeing the country are said to be incorrectly. Eventually, however, that might happen. #LibyaFeb 21 05:59
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65005097Feb 21 06:00
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 21-Feb-11 05:54:23 UTC - Identi.ca: "Chinese Jasmine revolution is beginning on the Sunday the 20th feb. in the center of ALL Chinese cities" http://ur1.ca/3av6z #china #unrestFeb 21 06:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Libya Shuts Down the Internet, What Happens To .ly Domains? http://ur1.ca/3av7p @timbl warned about itFeb 21 06:01
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I got an email from Opera's development teamFeb 21 06:04
DaemonFCthey put that bug I ran into into their tracking system and wanted to know more about my configurationFeb 21 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @speeddefrost GINP (Gimp Is Not Photoshop) :PFeb 21 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ian McEwan attacks "great injustice" in Israel http://tighturl.com/2ykbFeb 21 06:04
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There was a program based on GIMP floating around for a while, which mimicked the overall behavior of PhotoshopFeb 21 06:05
DaemonFCI used itFeb 21 06:05
schestowitzGIMPshop?Feb 21 06:06
schestowitzOr Pixel something?Feb 21 06:06
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 06:06
DaemonFCgimpshopFeb 21 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes recording today? !tbFeb 21 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] more US "we do whatever the fuck we want, and your little tinpot laws won't stop us" in full effect http://tighturl.com/2ykc #CIAFeb 21 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] House Passes Amendment To Block Funds For #NetNeutrality http://ur1.ca/3av97 Internet freedom champion?Feb 21 06:13
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DaemonFCFallout 2 is installing :)Feb 21 06:14
DaemonFC3 that isFeb 21 06:14
DaemonFCfor some reason, PlayOnLinux is pulling in Wine 1.1.44 for it, but I think I can override thatFeb 21 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FCC investigating #Fox over its operation of WWOR-TV http://ur1.ca/3aad8 "material factual information that was incorrect" #SwitchOffFoxFeb 21 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Castro Pot Bust Goes Awry and a Law Professor Threatens to Sue http://ur1.ca/39yd1 Carl Sagan smoked pot regularly]Feb 21 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hazzy "...has decided that its top executives just aren't making enough money [...] being paid $8.7 million a year." http://is.gd/iMZS4xFeb 21 06:16
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DaemonFCschestowitz, The FCC must not get Expanded Basic cable or they'd see that horses ass, Glenn Beck, and go ballisticFeb 21 06:16
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gbraad so many people in China (at least Beijing) have diabetics. a lot more than in Europe (Netherlands). eating habits?Feb 21 06:18
DaemonFCschestowitz, Fox Noise was actually paying cable companies to carry them at one pointFeb 21 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carwinb WLCentral: 2011-02-17 Coming Days Will Be Key to Protests in #Yemen wlcentral.org/node/1313 #freedomFeb 21 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter RT @missoularedhead: Finally figured out the House Republicans' agenda: more pregnant women means more jobs -- for men.Feb 21 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror Systems that are online in #Libya are probably worth scanning; the systems required or used by current government oppressors.Feb 21 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @samatjain Libya disconnects from Internet. Waiting for all the Web 2.0 fools with .ly domains to fall of the face of the earthFeb 21 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm [...] anyone missing their DOT ly URL shorteners might try Status!Net http://ur1.ca/ ... no revolution in Canada (yet)Feb 21 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris #shared Why do you Libyans want Gaddafi gone? Here are some reasons… http://b1t.it/awMFeb 21 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @samatjain Libya disconnects from Internet. Waiting for all the Web 2.0 fools with .ly domains to fall of the face of ...Feb 21 06:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @bsookman Man sued for posting official Sarah Palin picture on his website http://bit.ly/igdD1vFeb 21 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Multi-Core, Multi-OS Scaling Performance: In this article we are looking at how Linux, OpenSolaris, and FreeBSD ... http://bit.ly/dS3SR0Feb 21 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Libya is trying to overthrow a tyrant. Mothers in Libya: will my son survive? Westerners: will my URLs survive? #perspective #revolutionFeb 21 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At the moment, #China provides a good example of "thoughtcrime" and its application. #thoughtcrime #protest #chinaFeb 21 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have spotted my first British MP wearing a Union Jack on their lapel. Someone save us from these prats.Feb 21 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To apply pressure to the Chinese regime,people ought to flood the Web with information about those crackdowns,embarrassing the regime #chinaFeb 21 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad Big Brother? since 1984 it has only became more worse; big Government, big Google, big Apple, etc.Feb 21 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://build.meego.com is down. #MeeGo #ElopocalypseFeb 21 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Journalists targeted in Bahrain, Yemen, and Libya http://ur1.ca/3ae05 informed public is the greatest threatFeb 21 06:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Journalists targeted in Bahrain, Yemen, and Libya http://ur1.ca/3ae05 informed public is the greatest threatFeb 21 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb http://tighturl.com/2yfz they wonder why we don't trust them; US govt wanting astroturf software to generate propaganda [..]Feb 21 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More HBGary Federal Fallout: The Government Wants To Buy Software To Fake Online Grassroots Social Media Campaigns | Techdirt .::. Size~: 131.25 KBFeb 21 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz Big Borther always gets worse, the last season was terrible ;PFeb 21 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz Big Brother even, although Big Bother does seem to fit the results on peopleFeb 21 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thp4: #Maemo 5 Community SSU candidate: Portrait launcher - http://youtu.be/1w2khe3zqwM (merged from kalfa's 'tl_portrait' branch) #N900Feb 21 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Tablet Era Begins: Calling Innovations http://ur1.ca/3avi2 #meego #tablet #linux #gnu #lsb #intelFeb 21 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb hehe, it's *always* terrible IMHOFeb 21 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I think it's a part of a plot (tongue in cheek) to train people to talk about people and not events, ideas, progressFeb 21 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Does the emergence of Scientific Linux 6 RC1 indicate Centos is gonna be the last of RHEL clones this time? http://ping.fm/PBEiDFeb 21 06:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Oracle Linux 6 works nicelyFeb 21 07:00
DaemonFCeven lets you install to XFS :)Feb 21 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner there will always be a market for RHEL clones as long as #RHEL is so massively popular #centos #redhat #gnu #linuxFeb 21 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Der #Guttenberg wird den #Strauss machen. Scheitern in Berlin(Bonn), dann jahrzehntelang Bayrischer Sonnenkönig. Ist doch gut!Feb 21 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook deleting its inactive members from 15th March ? http://ur1.ca/3avj2 << data-mining operations don't delete voluntarilyFeb 21 07:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook deleting its inactive members from 15th March ?  .::. Size~: 13.07 KBFeb 21 07:03
MinceRschestowitz: they'll just mark them "deleted" in the database :>Feb 21 07:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: you used it.....?Feb 21 07:05
schestowitzMinceR: exactlyFeb 21 07:05
schestowitzLike they do by defaultFeb 21 07:05
schestowitz"deactivate" accountFeb 21 07:05
schestowitzSame with some E-mails...Feb 21 07:05
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 07:07
DaemonFCit's a free downloadFeb 21 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Facebook says "delete" it means "marking as 'deleted'". That stuff is there forever. Google might be the same. #privacyFeb 21 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer "Oracle's legal claims have done little if anything to scare users or vendors away from #Android" - http://ur1.ca/3aec7Feb 21 07:08
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schestowitzMaybe Ellison's buddy will soon be history... then Oracle can leave Android alone.Feb 21 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb yet again the US shows it's part of the problem in the #MiddleEast, not part of the solution http://tighturl.com/2yg7 #UNFeb 21 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb not just the US. Remember what the French and British did in Suez.Feb 21 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Wine 1.3.14 was released on Friday and it offers up a variety of fixes for the Wine 1.3 development series." http://ur1.ca/3avk9 #wineFeb 21 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer "Marketplace terms changed to be more open-source friendly" (no, they're not, article is wrong) http://ur1.ca/3aejcFeb 21 07:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz, it still doesn't run Fallout 3Feb 21 07:12
DaemonFC:/Feb 21 07:12
DaemonFCthe game starts but the scripting system and some textures are brokenFeb 21 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @gbraad and 30% of the time you just sleep.Feb 21 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mwkn: Devel: Core #MeeGo OBS is now open for anonymous read-access http://is.gd/KCOXat #maemoFeb 21 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mwkn: Community: Nokia's @quimgil doesn't expect #maemo .org funding to be immediately affected by #NokMsft http://bit.lyFeb 21 07:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  [MeeGo-dev] [Announcement] MeeGo OBS anonymous access is now active     .::. Size~: 2.87 KBFeb 21 07:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bit.ly | Basic | a simple URL shortener .::. Size~: 12.1 KBFeb 21 07:13
DaemonFCyour character wakes up to find the disembodied heads of mom and dad floating over itFeb 21 07:13
DaemonFCand the dialog scripting never kicks in :)Feb 21 07:13
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DaemonFCthough to be fair there's a few of my games that run fine and approximately the same speed as under Windows latelyFeb 21 07:14
DaemonFCWine 1.3.14 isn't really a significant release thoughFeb 21 07:14
DaemonFCthey fixed some memory leaks and a few clang warningsFeb 21 07:14
DaemonFCthat's nice, who uses clang? :)Feb 21 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Alien Dalvik Demonstrated by Benoit Schillings http://ur1.ca/3avl0 #meego #android #linux #java #dalvikFeb 21 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex First comment is funny: "We love Windows Phone. We love its potential. We support it. " LOL, WP7 fanboy site. #spindoctoringFeb 21 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gnufreex @jwildeboer a fake "fan site" here is there is possible to sponsor (set up/bribe) with a $500,000,000 marketing budget. #wp7 #failFeb 21 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 15 Killer Google Chrome Features You Might Not Know About http://ur1.ca/27mkz #chrome #google #wwwFeb 21 07:16
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sebsebsebI just googled LInux and well...Feb 21 07:16
DaemonFCUbuntu comes up firstFeb 21 07:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yes, butFeb 21 07:17
sebsebsebsomething else as well came upFeb 21 07:17
sebsebseband no I don't mean Mandriva got a good resultFeb 21 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The #virtualbox about splash is fun! http://www.virtualbox.org/about_1024px.png /via @marjoleinkFeb 21 07:18
sebsebsebor distrowatch is there or linux is in wikipedia or stuff like thatFeb 21 07:18
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sebsebsebor that Debian came upFeb 21 07:18
sebsebseband distrowatchFeb 21 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sintel, 4k edition (and why it’s useful) http://ur1.ca/3af50 #sintel #creativecommonsFeb 21 07:19
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sebsebsebhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/220085/fedora_and_opensuse_linux_drop_unity_efforts.htmlFeb 21 07:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora and openSUSE Linux Drop Unity Efforts - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 76.53 KBFeb 21 07:20
sebsebsebDaemonFC: so yeah bad news ^Feb 21 07:20
sebsebsebplus I talked to that guy on IRC not that long ago, and he told me about how something would need to be accepted upstream before Fedora would have in repo'sFeb 21 07:20
DaemonFCI figured they would give upFeb 21 07:20
DaemonFCthe list of apps that need to be patched to support that indicator crapplet sours the dealFeb 21 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google the term "Linux" and see what comes up in #1 spot. It says a lot about why news coverage changed. #trademark #ubuntu #android #linuxFeb 21 07:21
DaemonFCthe Kubuntu message indicator is just a plasmoidFeb 21 07:21
DaemonFCthe Ubuntu indicator is an invasive patch against GNOMEFeb 21 07:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: schestowitz is replying in a good way in #boycottnovell-socialFeb 21 07:21
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ^Feb 21 07:22
sebsebsebhere there whatever :CFeb 21 07:22
sebsebseb:dFeb 21 07:22
DaemonFCI've actually come to like the Kubuntu indicatorFeb 21 07:22
DaemonFCit nabs Pidgin and works better than Pidgin's tray icon does in KDEFeb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:19] <schestowitz> NoFeb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:19] <schestowitz> Good newsFeb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:19] <schestowitz> MaybeFeb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:20] <schestowitz> I don't care about Unity much, it's not for desktopFeb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:20] <schestowitz> It's for devices and for Canonical to have more grip (copyrights in Ubuntu)Feb 21 07:23
sebsebseb[07:20] <sebsebseb> and I was only Google'ing it now, because of a page going on about if it should be called Ubuntu or GNU/LinuxFeb 21 07:23
DaemonFCthis will make it a lot harder for other distributions to base on UbuntuFeb 21 07:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: thing is it's for desktop as well starting with 11.04Feb 21 07:23
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well other distros like Mint can do Unity if they wantFeb 21 07:24
DaemonFCif they try to pull things in from Ubuntu, they'll get apps that are heavily patched to work with UnityFeb 21 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tor Open Hackfest: February 19, 2011 http://ur1.ca/3afjo #linux #hackfestFeb 21 07:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Obama administration has entered direct, secret talks with senior Afghan Taliban leaders - The New Yorker http://nyr.kr/gY7aHRFeb 21 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @dpic #SFCNYC Check out http://libre.fm the free software, free culture last.fm alternative!Feb 21 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Obama Administration and the Taliban : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 94.58 KBFeb 21 07:26
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: if other distro's can just provide UnityFeb 21 07:26
sebsebsebDaemonFC: we so must not support it, but I wasn't exactly doing that anyway :)Feb 21 07:26
sebsebsebalso that's ashame that Ubuntu is number 1 when searching for LinuxFeb 21 07:27
sebsebsebmaybe Canonical paid for that or somethingFeb 21 07:27
sebsebsebwhen Googleing for LinuxFeb 21 07:27
DaemonFCDebian will be pulling in KDE 4.6 in March into TestingFeb 21 07:27
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Mageia and the next Mandriva and  Kubuntu, will release with itFeb 21 07:27
sebsebseb4.6 already in developmet of   Kubuntu, Mageia, and MandrivaFeb 21 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb When will Wapping tell the truth? http://tighturl.com/2yge #Murdoch #NoW #PhoneHackingFeb 21 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  When will Wapping tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth | Media | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 152.04 KBFeb 21 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fabsh ♺ @reality: I just deleted my Twitter account. Identica is the way.Feb 21 07:29
DaemonFCright now I have Kubuntu 10.10 + GStreamer/VLC +Phonon backends from a PPA + KDE 4.6 from a PPA + a custom 2.6.37.1 kernel I built with the real time options and BFS CPU scheduler (and removed a lot of embedded/laptop/devices I don'thave/ancient crap from)Feb 21 07:30
sebsebsebapparantly Canonical have helped these guys do Unity  thoughFeb 21 07:30
sebsebsebpatches or whatever for itFeb 21 07:30
sebsebsebwell Canonical let's seeFeb 21 07:30
DaemonFCplus I ended up building new Catalyst modules and HPLIP from upstream packagesFeb 21 07:30
sebsebsebif you want Unity to be Ubuntu onlyFeb 21 07:30
sebsebsebif not help these guys provide it properly for Fedora and OpenSuse?Feb 21 07:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: if Canonical are going to play upstream with Unity, which they areFeb 21 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bonjour World or how to localize #Qt applications http://ur1.ca/3avno #meego #intel #linuxFeb 21 07:31
sebsebsebright yeah that's one thing CAFeb 21 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bonjour World or how to localize Qt applications | Intel AppUp(SM) developer program .::. Size~: 31.21 KBFeb 21 07:31
sebsebseb,butFeb 21 07:31
DaemonFCI disabled dynticks, set HZ=1000, and removed power saving for AC97 devicesFeb 21 07:31
sebsebsebsurely an upstream is meant to help any distro  that wants to use it'ts project?Feb 21 07:31
DaemonFCthat alone got the latency down a lotFeb 21 07:31
sebsebseband properly help themFeb 21 07:31
DaemonFCUbuntu used to have a ton of kernelsFeb 21 07:32
DaemonFCoptimized for different CPU families, desktop, laptop, real time, etcFeb 21 07:32
DaemonFCnow they have Generic, which works like crap on everythingFeb 21 07:32
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:32
DaemonFCthey just said fuck it and flipped everything on and now it doesn't work ideally anywhereFeb 21 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Libya...fill your boots everyone. Libya is a country that it is safe to slag off. #notSaudi,Egypt,IsraeloranyothertypeofallyFeb 21 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera quite..Feb 21 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Please update your info - http://lug-iitd.org/FOSS_Representative_of_Indian_Colleges_and_InstitutesFeb 21 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm "the #terrorist list is totally illegitimate. That shouldn’t exist in a free society." #NoamChomsky Interview http://ur1.ca/3ah54Feb 21 07:33
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: Ubuntu is becoming rather worrying, because of UnityFeb 21 07:33
DaemonFCthey want to act like they can properly support desktops, laptops, big iron, mobile devices, and ancient pieces of crap systems in one frankenkernel Feb 21 07:33
DaemonFCand it's just not working wellFeb 21 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiversFeb 21 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Equal news treatment will never happen. Libya hires mercenaries? #Blackwater/Xe/USAFeb 21 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @MarietjeD66 Reuters: #Egypt allows #Iran to use Suez Canal for passage warships http://bit.ly/fRZsgV #iranelection #jan25Feb 21 07:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      UPDATE 3-Egypt says Iran ships can use Suez Canal -source | News by Country | Reuters  .::. Size~: 37.99 KBFeb 21 07:34
DaemonFCthey end up supporting everything from PC XT keyboards, 16 color VGA framebuffers, serial port game controllers, ISA sound cards, parallel port printersFeb 21 07:35
DaemonFCit takes you a while just to clear that crap out of their KconfigFeb 21 07:35
DaemonFCand that's just the startFeb 21 07:35
DaemonFCI doubt anyone is using Ubuntu with any of that hardwareFeb 21 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @shaistaAziz Libyan writer Matar on BBC: #Libya is sealed off - there are no journalists there. The regime can act with impunity #feb17Feb 21 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Don't feed the trolls, people.Feb 21 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz 15 Killer Google Chrome Features You Might Not Know About http://ur1.ca/27mkz #chrome #google #wwwFeb 21 07:36
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cubezzzwhat is frankenkernel?Feb 21 07:36
DaemonFCit's just pieced together badlyFeb 21 07:36
DaemonFCit's trying to be all things on all systemsFeb 21 07:36
cubezzzwhat is?Feb 21 07:36
DaemonFCUbuntu's generic kernelFeb 21 07:37
cubezzzah, okFeb 21 07:37
DaemonFCMandriva has several kernels, and leaves it to the user to select between themFeb 21 07:37
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:37
cubezzzLFSFeb 21 07:37
Diablo-D3frakenkernel, n. FUCKING UBUNTU YOU MORONSFeb 21 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !android x86 on my EeePc giving me a few problems. Seems each install is different.Feb 21 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @JAPak ♺ @judyblume House voted to deny Planned Parenthood federal funding. Unbelievable! http://ur1.ca/3ahe6Feb 21 07:38
DaemonFCthere's kernel-desktop, kernel-laptop, kernel-rt, kernel-linus (vanilla kernel), kernel-server....Feb 21 07:38
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DaemonFCat least they don't act like one kernel can work well everywhereFeb 21 07:38
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: MinceR Bad news http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/220085/fedora_and_opensuse_linux_drop_unity_efforts.htmlFeb 21 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora and openSUSE Linux Drop Unity Efforts - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 76.53 KBFeb 21 07:38
cubezzzI'm not up on 201X slangFeb 21 07:39
MinceRsebsebseb: why is that bad news?Feb 21 07:39
sebsebsebMinceR: Unity may get pretty popularFeb 21 07:39
sebsebseband to the extent where, if Ubuntu is the only one that has itFeb 21 07:39
sebsebsebyep people use Ubuntu for itFeb 21 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazing Photo: Egyptians Turn Out to Support #Wisconsin Counterparts http://ur1.ca/3avoq #justice #egypt #reciprocityFeb 21 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Google pulls Flash Game Player from the !Android Market… and some users’ phones - not clear why yet http://ping.fm/7P30WFeb 21 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazing Photo: Egyptians Turn Out to Support Wisconsin Counterparts - Culture - GOOD .::. Size~: 123.11 KBFeb 21 07:39
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MinceRi think it's the other way aroundFeb 21 07:39
MinceRmany people don't know there's anything other than ubuntuFeb 21 07:40
DaemonFChttp://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=epicFeb 21 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not everything is epic, you shitheads. .::. Size~: 9.32 KBFeb 21 07:40
MinceRso they'll use whatever ubuntu comes with by defaultFeb 21 07:40
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:40
DaemonFCMinceR, I got a Kubuntu install I'm happy with, but it had to undergo major surgeryFeb 21 07:40
DaemonFC:PFeb 21 07:40
sebsebsebMinceR: if they get to used to Unity, and want to go to another distro, they may want it thereFeb 21 07:40
MinceRDaemonFC: i'd rather avoid the surgery :>Feb 21 07:40
MinceRsebsebseb: did novell2.0 drop the copyright assignment requirement?Feb 21 07:41
sebsebsebdid Canonical drop the CA noFeb 21 07:41
MinceRthen it's better for others not to adopt unityFeb 21 07:41
sebsebsebyeah or fork it some howFeb 21 07:42
sebsebsebmaybeFeb 21 07:42
MinceRbesides, gnome shell is pretty similar, isn't it?Feb 21 07:42
Diablo-D3[02:37:41] <sebsebseb> Diablo-D3: MinceR Bad news http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/220085/fedora_and_opensuse_linux_drop_unity_efforts.htmlFeb 21 07:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora and openSUSE Linux Drop Unity Efforts - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 76.54 KBFeb 21 07:42
Diablo-D3wait wait waitFeb 21 07:42
Diablo-D3how is this bad news?Feb 21 07:42
MinceRDiablo-D3: my point exactlyFeb 21 07:42
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: just explained to MinceRFeb 21 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm Guest post on #PZMyers' blog: In Defense of Mockery http://ur1.ca/3ahkj #atheist #secular #liberal #politics #USAFeb 21 07:43
Diablo-D3unity is microsoft shell for gnomeFeb 21 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm #Women can be proud that they never contributed one line to the #Bible. —George W. Foote !q http://ur1.ca/3ahp6 #atheistFeb 21 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @satipera Libya...fill your boots everyone. Libya is a country that it is safe to slag off. #notSaudi,Egypt,IsraeloranyothertypeofallyFeb 21 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @whumba: Please use whatever influence U have 2 rally international aid 2 the Libyan ppl, a massacre is tkng place #Feb17 #Libya #BahrainFeb 21 07:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Defense of Mockery : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 352.04 KBFeb 21 07:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Atheist (DailyAtheist) on Twitter .::. Size~: 50.88 KBFeb 21 07:43
Diablo-D3Im glad they rejected itFeb 21 07:43
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: it seems to be rejected for now, because something isn't accepted upstream at the momentFeb 21 07:43
MinceRnovell2.0 doesn't play nice with others, news at 11Feb 21 07:43
Diablo-D3probably a key patch that makes it not a pile of fucking shitFeb 21 07:43
Diablo-D3this is why you NEVER trust companiesFeb 21 07:43
Diablo-D3unless I run it, then its totally coolFeb 21 07:43
*Diablo-D3 ships Shuttlecock back to AfricaFeb 21 07:44
Diablo-D3one less poor unfortunate soul with AIDS to deal withFeb 21 07:44
sebsebsebindeed trusting companies fully or a lot, not the best idea at all, as I have found out with CanonicalFeb 21 07:44
sebsebsebtech companies anywayFeb 21 07:44
sebsebsebfood companies well, we get their products, its just yeah they may disappear eventaully as wellFeb 21 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @satipera Eviction?Feb 21 07:44
sebsebsebplus some of the food they sell us, won't be good for our health at allFeb 21 07:44
Diablo-D3oh dont worryFeb 21 07:44
Diablo-D3you already either have cancer or will have cancerFeb 21 07:44
Diablo-D3and you're terribly overweightFeb 21 07:45
Diablo-D3all because of HFCSFeb 21 07:45
Diablo-D3hurray for companies!Feb 21 07:45
DaemonFChooray for Coca Cola and 300 pound 12 year olds wheezing up the school steps!Feb 21 07:46
MinceRdon't blame it all on HFCS :>Feb 21 07:46
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !debian squeeze just got a virtualbox update :) Wonder what's new?Feb 21 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner RT @NickKristof: My video of the joyous moments after the retaking of #Bahrain Pearl Roundabout: http://nyti.ms/giR89iFeb 21 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Democracy Welcomed, but Risk Remains - Video Library - The New York Times .::. Size~: 224.53 KBFeb 21 07:46
sebsebsebwhat's HFCS ?Feb 21 07:46
Diablo-D3thats currently the most toxic poison in most foodsFeb 21 07:46
MinceRhigh fructose corn syrupFeb 21 07:46
cubezzzcorn syrup, yeahFeb 21 07:46
cubezzzbut I don't eat out and I don't drink popFeb 21 07:46
MinceRit's an inferior substitute for sucrose that's pretty difficult to avoid in some products nowadays, sadlyFeb 21 07:46
Diablo-D3cubezzz: its in everything.Feb 21 07:47
Diablo-D3EVERYTHING.Feb 21 07:47
cubezzzcarrots? :)Feb 21 07:47
MinceRbricksFeb 21 07:47
Diablo-D3unless you buy fresh uncanned unfrozen products, its in it.Feb 21 07:47
Diablo-D3EVEN BREAD.Feb 21 07:47
MinceReven Brad.Feb 21 07:47
Diablo-D3poor Brad :<Feb 21 07:47
DaemonFCI drink diet sodasFeb 21 07:47
DaemonFC:PFeb 21 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner but the author is assuming that #Microsoft builds rather than acquires someone who builds. #Android too was a #Google purchase.Feb 21 07:48
DaemonFCcue aspartame conspiracy theoriesFeb 21 07:48
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:48
MinceRDaemonFC: other sweeteners aren't necessarily safe either :>Feb 21 07:48
Diablo-D3its not a sweetenerFeb 21 07:48
Diablo-D3its a sugar replacementFeb 21 07:48
MinceRafaik there's no non-sucrose sweetener that has been properly tested and proven to be safeFeb 21 07:48
MinceRDiablo-D3: guess what sugar does to foodFeb 21 07:48
Diablo-D3its not even meant to be a sweeter in that senseFeb 21 07:48
DaemonFCMinceR, I mostly drink soda sweetened with sucraloseFeb 21 07:48
Diablo-D3MinceR: a lot of food uses it for the chemical reactionFeb 21 07:48
cubezzzI don't recall as many people being overweight 20 years agoFeb 21 07:48
DaemonFCI put it in my coffee tooFeb 21 07:49
DaemonFCit tastes pretty much exactly like sugarFeb 21 07:49
Diablo-D3cubezzz: HFCS started being used everywhere about 30 years agoFeb 21 07:49
DaemonFCat least to meFeb 21 07:49
MinceRDiablo-D3: most "sugar replacements" can't take part in the same chemical reactionsFeb 21 07:49
Diablo-D3the US didnt have an overweight epidemic until HFCS became prevelentFeb 21 07:49
schestowitzCorn is subsidised by the USian governmentFeb 21 07:49
Diablo-D3yes, we should burn all corn fieldsFeb 21 07:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, That's why corn ethanol is dirt cheap to run your car on hereFeb 21 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @guardiantech: Boycott the UK census over links to Lockheed Martin, protesters say http://bit.ly/eLyKAjFeb 21 07:49
Diablo-D3if the terrorists have no corn, how can they attack us?Feb 21 07:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Boycott the UK census over links to Lockheed Martin, protesters say | UK news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 234.87 KBFeb 21 07:49
MinceRlolFeb 21 07:49
DaemonFCthey subsidize the farmers and don't tax the ethanol fuelFeb 21 07:49
schestowitzThe wonders of the 'free' marketFeb 21 07:50
Diablo-D3the republicans killed the free market.Feb 21 07:50
Diablo-D3republicans are a cancer.Feb 21 07:50
MinceRi thought the megacorps killed itFeb 21 07:50
Diablo-D3MinceR: but the megacorps ARE republicans.Feb 21 07:50
DaemonFCneither party is a fan of the free market, they both just have different programs to squander the money they seize out of your paychecks onFeb 21 07:50
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 07:50
MinceRvia anti-competitive behavior (trusts, etc)Feb 21 07:50
MinceRDiablo-D3: yes, but so are the democratsFeb 21 07:51
Diablo-D3yes, at least half the democrats are republicans too.Feb 21 07:51
MinceRboth parties have the same agenda and mostly the same companies to bribe themFeb 21 07:51
Diablo-D3and you know those faggots we declared independence from over 200 years ago?Feb 21 07:51
Diablo-D3republicans.Feb 21 07:51
DaemonFCit's effectively a one party systemFeb 21 07:51
MinceRindeedFeb 21 07:51
DaemonFCthey're so inextricably linkedFeb 21 07:51
Diablo-D3the jews who killed christ? republicans.Feb 21 07:51
MinceRit's corpocracy with two parties to give the illusion of democracyFeb 21 07:52
Diablo-D3is a 10,000 year old conspiracyFeb 21 07:52
cubezzzthere's a funny schoolhouse rock video of the U.S. debtFeb 21 07:52
Diablo-D3shuddup cubezzz Feb 21 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺@lamm It's quite embarrassing to hear #HillaryClinton spew empty rhetoric about democracy while US companies profit from oppressive regimesFeb 21 07:53
Diablo-D3the republicans have destroyed the world long enoughFeb 21 07:53
cubezzzsometimes I wonder when were the good ol' days Feb 21 07:53
Diablo-D3I say wipe them outFeb 21 07:53
cubezzzthe late 60's maybeFeb 21 07:53
MinceRprobably neverFeb 21 07:53
Diablo-D3the worst they can do to you is kill youFeb 21 07:53
MinceR:>Feb 21 07:53
DaemonFCI wonder if Catalyst builds on OpenSuse 11.4 RC1Feb 21 07:53
Diablo-D3if thats all they can threaten you with, they are in a bad positionFeb 21 07:53
*DaemonFC nibs around to find outFeb 21 07:53
cubezzzyeah lots of problemsFeb 21 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Develop4AppUp: I posted 57 photos on Facebook in the album "Mobile World Congress" http://fb.me/AipCC4blFeb 21 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mobile World Congress | Facebook .::. Size~: 43.57 KBFeb 21 07:54
DaemonFChttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/02/18/help-the-project-spread-opensuse-dvds/Feb 21 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: openSUSE News .::. Size~: 46.59 KBFeb 21 07:54
*DaemonFC sends 500 to schestowitz Feb 21 07:54
Diablo-D3whoever develop4appup is, he needs to be removed from the internet isFeb 21 07:55
Diablo-D3schestowitz: you should be ashamed of redenting thatFeb 21 07:56
MinceR:>Feb 21 07:56
Diablo-D3fucking facebook shitFeb 21 07:56
Diablo-D3gtfoFeb 21 07:56
schestowitzI know, but..Feb 21 07:57
schestowitzYou don't need to have given them personal info to access the photosFeb 21 07:57
schestowitzUsually you doFeb 21 07:57
schestowitzYou can get high-res images without the blackmail of accessFeb 21 07:57
Diablo-D3Dont care.Feb 21 07:57
Diablo-D3Dont redent that shit.Feb 21 07:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rowedesign/status/39590685258551298Feb 21 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr@rowedesign: @schestowitz  One world one power? You guys are utopian moon bats!  #wisconsinFeb 21 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Set #DockBarX To Use #Compiz Scale Plugin (Unity-Like) http://ur1.ca/3avr3 #gnu #linuxFeb 21 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Some articles by the "hi-tech terrorist" Assange: http://is.gd/XfBWuM !wl << that's what #Biden called himFeb 21 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Set DockBarX To Use Compiz Scale Plugin (Unity-Like) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 57.18 KBFeb 21 07:58
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I wasn't going to , but it's hard to find Meego stuffFeb 21 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Search results for "assange" - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 25.08 KBFeb 21 07:58
Diablo-D3I will cluebat you.Feb 21 07:58
Diablo-D3Ive done it before, and I'll do it again.Feb 21 07:58
MinceRyou'll fucking kill google?Feb 21 07:58
Diablo-D3no, just roy and mail his body to microsoft for paymentFeb 21 07:59
MinceR:>Feb 21 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 How Berlusconi stopped an anti-GM crops law at the request of US http://is.gd/L0DIWC !wl // #Berlusconi cc @gmwatchFeb 21 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Così fu bloccata la legge anti Ogm - L'espresso .::. Size~: 40.67 KBFeb 21 07:59
schestowitzhttp://www.facebook.com/patr0ckFeb 21 08:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patrick McFadden | Facebook .::. Size~: 75.28 KBFeb 21 08:00
DaemonFCwhatever happened to peace, love, and understanding?Feb 21 08:00
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 08:00
*Diablo-D3 cluebats schestowitzFeb 21 08:00
schestowitzhttp://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-McFarland/1324389023Feb 21 08:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patrick McFarland | Facebook .::. Size~: 21.8 KBFeb 21 08:00
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 08:00
MinceRDaemonFC: never existed?Feb 21 08:00
DaemonFCexactlyFeb 21 08:00
Diablo-D3schestowitz: no, Im not on facebookFeb 21 08:01
schestowitzYou areFeb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3theres at least 12 other famous mes, thats not me.Feb 21 08:01
schestowitzthe nameFeb 21 08:01
MinceRschestowitz: rotflFeb 21 08:01
schestowitzWhat's you SID #?Feb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3one of them even works for microsoft.Feb 21 08:01
DaemonFCDiablo-D3, is on assfacebookFeb 21 08:01
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3theres another whos a judgeFeb 21 08:01
schestowitzDiablo-D3: you do?>Feb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3and theres a basketball player tooFeb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3schestowitz: YES ROY, I WORK FOR MICROSOFTFeb 21 08:01
MinceRlolFeb 21 08:01
Diablo-D3THEY PAY ME LOTS OF MONEYFeb 21 08:01
schestowitzThat explains a lotFeb 21 08:02
Diablo-D3HOW DO I SLEEP AT NIGHT? ON A GIANT PILE OF CASHFeb 21 08:02
schestowitzOn Ballmer?!Feb 21 08:02
cubezzzha, who is that, Ballmer?Feb 21 08:02
cubezzzlolFeb 21 08:02
schestowitzhEHEFeb 21 08:02
schestowitzbeat you to itFeb 21 08:02
Diablo-D3ballmermindFeb 21 08:02
MinceRDiablo-D3: coins, right?Feb 21 08:02
schestowitzGoldFeb 21 08:02
DaemonFCwhat was our plan again? buy him out and turn it into GO-BALLNUX?Feb 21 08:02
DaemonFC:DFeb 21 08:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: goldFeb 21 08:02
Diablo-D3HAHFeb 21 08:02
schestowitzDiablo-D3: sister sites are go-oo and go-monoFeb 21 08:03
Diablo-D3I think we've been telling the same jokes for so long we know the punchlinesFeb 21 08:03
cubezzzmy OS is untouched by Ballmer BOFeb 21 08:03
Diablo-D3cubezzz: dudeFeb 21 08:03
schestowitzNovell bought go-go-wake-me-upFeb 21 08:03
Diablo-D3you know what we should doFeb 21 08:03
Diablo-D3have a site where you donate moneyFeb 21 08:03
Diablo-D3to send underarm deoderant to ballmerFeb 21 08:03
MinceRlolFeb 21 08:03
cubezzzhehFeb 21 08:03
MinceRi have a permanent solution in mindFeb 21 08:03
sebsebsebUnity Ubuntu Only 11.04 hmmFeb 21 08:04
MinceRto stop his stinkingFeb 21 08:04
sebsebsebUbuntu Unity 11.04 hmmFeb 21 08:04
Diablo-D3MinceR: even firing him wont stop thatFeb 21 08:04
sebsebsebUbuntu Only Unity 11.04 hmmFeb 21 08:04
Diablo-D3the guy has some fucking conditionFeb 21 08:04
schestowitzI have ideas of better things to send BallmerFeb 21 08:04
MinceRDiablo-D3: burying him and letting him decompose eventually would, thoughFeb 21 08:04
cubezzzI'm waiting for BallmerOS, the fattest most bloated OS in all existenceFeb 21 08:04
Diablo-D3dudeFeb 21 08:04
schestowitzGive him a chill pill, for him to stop being such a thugFeb 21 08:04
Diablo-D3I just wanna jerk off on his bald headFeb 21 08:04
MinceRewFeb 21 08:04
schestowitzcubezzz: there's ballnuxFeb 21 08:04
MinceRwhat a pervertFeb 21 08:04
schestowitz!google ballnuxFeb 21 08:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Helps Novell Fight GNU/Linux with Ballnux | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/21/microsoft-helps-novell-fight/Feb 21 08:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ballnux on H-P Laptops: Fail | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/05/09/suse-linux-hewlett-packard-laptop/Feb 21 08:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Novell's Decline, OpenSUSE, Ballnux Tax, Proprietary Software and ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/13/novell-decreased-emphasis-on-foss/Feb 21 08:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - [News] Elections at the University of the Philippines Run on Free ... | http://fixunix.com/linux/342957-news-elections-university-philippines-run-free-software-ballnux.htmlFeb 21 08:05
Diablo-D3I cant think of a better way of telling him how I feel.Feb 21 08:05
MinceRi canFeb 21 08:05
cubezzzpeople throw eggs at himFeb 21 08:05
cubezzzespecially Hungarians :)Feb 21 08:05
Diablo-D3cubezzz: well, at least Bill only got pies....Feb 21 08:05
schestowitzAnd also bloatixFeb 21 08:05
MinceRit starts with penal servitudeFeb 21 08:05
MinceRand goes downhill from thereFeb 21 08:05
cubezzzBloatnuxFeb 21 08:05
Diablo-D3MinceR: like I said, I'd jerk off on his head.Feb 21 08:05
schestowitz!google bloatnuxFeb 21 08:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Introducing Bloatnux | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/08/03/bloatnux-download/Feb 21 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NaturalRearing.com ~ Healthy Breeding With Herbs And Homeopathy | http://www.naturalrearing.com/coda/a_healthy_breeding_with.htmlFeb 21 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - HYSTERIA Symptoms, Cause, Diagnosis, Homeopathic Remedies ... | http://health.hpathy.com/hysteria-symptoms-treatment-cure.aspFeb 21 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ubuntu – Mono = Chicken | http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-mono-chicken/Feb 21 08:06
MinceRDiablo-D3: well, if he turns you on, go ahead :>Feb 21 08:06
DaemonFChttp://distrowatch.com/images/cgfjoewdlbc/ubuntuce.pngFeb 21 08:06
Diablo-D3yes, his bald head, its so sexFeb 21 08:06
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeFeb 21 08:06
Diablo-D3fapfapfapfapfapFeb 21 08:06
DaemonFCscreenshot of MinceR's desktopFeb 21 08:06
DaemonFC:)\Feb 21 08:06
Diablo-D3seriously, we need to get some sort of egg cannonFeb 21 08:06
schestowitzProbably a pile of corpses on fire..Feb 21 08:06
Diablo-D3something that can rapid fire eggs at 100 eggs a minuteFeb 21 08:06
Diablo-D3mounted on the back of a hummerFeb 21 08:07
MinceR:>Feb 21 08:07
schestowitzSteve HUMMERFeb 21 08:07
Diablo-D3wait by his houseFeb 21 08:07
Diablo-D3wait until he goes to workFeb 21 08:07
cubezzzhe probably lives in a fortressFeb 21 08:07
cubezzzso many enemiesFeb 21 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aurele/@aurele] Libya: all seems to show that militarian which shoot on Libyan people are not from Libya but are Mercenaries !ftk !wl !peace #FreedomFeb 21 08:08
Diablo-D3and start firing eggs at him while hes driving to workFeb 21 08:08
schestowitzHe doesn't drive to workFeb 21 08:08
schestowitzThese people have driversFeb 21 08:08
Diablo-D3schestowitz: he still gets to work in a car.Feb 21 08:08
schestowitzSometimes they drive better than Prince Diana'sFeb 21 08:08
cubezzzhe uses the WindocopterFeb 21 08:08
schestowitzHe doesn't work]Feb 21 08:08
schestowitzHe _schemes_Feb 21 08:08
Diablo-D3he plots!Feb 21 08:09
schestowitzHe still uses Excel spreadsheet as a diaryFeb 21 08:09
cubezzzhe's Batman's next enemy!Feb 21 08:09
Diablo-D3anyway, driving through the streets of redmonFeb 21 08:09
schestowitzPinky and the brainFeb 21 08:09
Diablo-D3him and his limo trying to escape the hummer behind itFeb 21 08:09
Diablo-D3eggs firing the whole wayFeb 21 08:09
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXg-GPQfE0MFeb 21 08:09
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXg-GPQfE0MFeb 21 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Nokia Plan 0    .::. Size~: 111.96 KBFeb 21 08:09
MinceR090632 < Diablo-D3> wait until he goes to workFeb 21 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Nokia Plan 0    .::. Size~: 111.51 KBFeb 21 08:09
MinceRwait, what?Feb 21 08:09
DaemonFCthey can't figure out how to sell mp3 players and they have the Ballmermobile?Feb 21 08:09
MinceRballmer _works_?Feb 21 08:09
DaemonFCno, I don't believe youFeb 21 08:10
Diablo-D3he arrives at a building, daily, to get a paycheckFeb 21 08:10
MinceRlooks like i was beat to that thoughFeb 21 08:10
schestowitzBallmermobile LOLFeb 21 08:10
schestowitzIt's a truckFeb 21 08:10
cubezzzhe drives the Ballmermobile, an extra wide Pacer :)Feb 21 08:10
schestowitz"Mummy, today I saw a car that sweats"Feb 21 08:10
Diablo-D3but brain, where are we going to get leaderhosen and Pamala Anderson at this time of night!Feb 21 08:11
MinceRmaybe you'd be better off with a Cougar than a HummerFeb 21 08:11
DaemonFCthere is no horn, just a loudspeaker that shouts "DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS" at anyone who cuts him offFeb 21 08:11
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 08:11
MinceRlolFeb 21 08:11
MinceRor the chair-throwing monologueFeb 21 08:11
cubezzzwell maybe the Ballmer will bring down Microsoft Feb 21 08:12
schestowitzThe car can ejects seats and fly them across the roadFeb 21 08:12
cubezzzthat would be funnyFeb 21 08:12
schestowitzIf you sideswipe it for exampleFeb 21 08:12
MinceRhe should hurry up alreadyFeb 21 08:12
Diablo-D3manFeb 21 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros RT @xfce midori 0.3.2 released: http://ur1.ca/3avu1 !XfceFeb 21 08:13
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting text/plain typeFeb 21 08:13
MinceRthey've taken another victim recentlyFeb 21 08:13
Diablo-D3ballmer is likeFeb 21 08:13
DaemonFCif you sideswipe the Ballmermobile, it will cause YOUR car to crash :)Feb 21 08:13
Diablo-D3lex lutherFeb 21 08:13
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 08:13
DaemonFClex festerFeb 21 08:13
Diablo-D3<ballmer> tell me that thing <helpless developer> microsoft will be shipping another windows next year? <ballmer> no no, that other thing <dev> linux is coming up in the ranks? <ballmer> WROOOOOONG!Feb 21 08:14
cubezzzKevin SpaceyFeb 21 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Like #FAIL and stuff? Texas ramping up for some massacres? http://ur1.ca/3avuc via @oswaldFeb 21 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 165.75 KBFeb 21 08:14
DaemonFCKevin Spacey is more charismatic than Steve BallmerFeb 21 08:14
DaemonFCeven in SevenFeb 21 08:15
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 08:15
MinceRit doesn't take muchFeb 21 08:15
MinceRespecially from an actor :>Feb 21 08:15
Diablo-D3now I totally want to see this =/Feb 21 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 How Berlusconi tried to stop Italian magistrates http://is.gd/6mm9L9 !wl #Berlusconi #whitecollarFeb 21 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Gun-free zones are shooting galleries for the mass murderers," #speechless. #Texas #Fail http://ur1.ca/3avucFeb 21 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A week later, almost nobody talks about Microsoft's attack on Nokia. So they got away with another despicable act. #entryism #abductionFeb 21 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Le leggi ad personam del premier per fermare i suoi processi" - Repubblica.it .::. Size~: 53.93 KBFeb 21 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 166.2 KBFeb 21 08:16
Diablo-D3we need someone to play bill gates thoughFeb 21 08:16
Diablo-D3and that guy in the new batman films to play a tux-themed batmanFeb 21 08:17
schestowitzJoe Pesci?Feb 21 08:17
Diablo-D3schestowitz: no, needs to be skinnierFeb 21 08:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, Eight Heads in a Duffel Bag Feb 21 08:17
Diablo-D3and we can have arnold schwartzenegger to play RMSFeb 21 08:17
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] terrorist = someone who sows terror among the elite that their hypocrisy, nest feathering and backdoor dealing will be made publicFeb 21 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ave/@ave] @schestowitz talking is nothing. The real question is "how many people will buy Nokia from now on?".Feb 21 08:18
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYFJJquQlj8Feb 21 08:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Funny Movie Scene, 8 Heads In a Duffel Bag - Joe Pesci    .::. Size~: 131.11 KBFeb 21 08:18
DaemonFCI like Joe PesciFeb 21 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rrix Rubberhose filesystem, developed in part by Julian Assange http://ur1.ca/3akx6Feb 21 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rubberhose (file system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 24.54 KBFeb 21 08:19
schestowitzHe's a bit pesky at timesFeb 21 08:19
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O163ogpOI7kFeb 21 08:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - 8 HEADS IN A DUFFEL BAG mr sandman scene    .::. Size~: 122.16 KBFeb 21 08:20
Diablo-D3<RMS> I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.Feb 21 08:20
DaemonFC:DFeb 21 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ave judging by how many people bought a Vista Phony 7 device (maybe less than 500,000), Nokia's brand won't sufficeFeb 21 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 4 Victories Handed to Corporate America by the Supreme Court -- So Far http://ur1.ca/3avxr see http://ur1.ca/3avy0 http://ur1.ca/3avy3Feb 21 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Rubberhose..designed to be resistant to attacks by people willing to use torture on those who knew the encryption keys" http://ur1.ca/3avydFeb 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top 4 Victories Handed to Corporate America by the Supreme Court -- So Far |  Tea Party and the Right | AlterNet .::. Size~: 116.44 KBFeb 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robber baron justice in the 21st century - Joan Walsh - Salon.com .::. Size~: 64.63 KBFeb 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The bigger Clarence Thomas scandal - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 68.84 KBFeb 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rubberhose (file system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 24.54 KBFeb 21 08:23
Diablo-D3<RMS> I think I'll name my new editor NYYAAAAAAAAARGGGGHHHHHHHFeb 21 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hazzy"What the Right-wing Assault on Women, Unions, the Environment, Health Care and PBS Is All About" http://is.gd/71Qc4dFeb 21 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What the Right-wing Assault on Women, Unions, the Environment, Health Care and PBS Is All About | Economy | AlterNet .::. Size~: 108.89 KBFeb 21 08:24
DaemonFCDiablo-D3, He could rename emacs that and be doneFeb 21 08:26
DaemonFCMinceR, I've got one for you :)Feb 21 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jospoortvliet http://engt.co/glpJiY run !android apps easily on #symbian !MeeGo !linux #windows #apple any platform supported by !qtFeb 21 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz That is a completely fake story, #FB not involved, hoax by some weirdo AFAICS.Feb 21 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Myriad Alien Dalvik hands-on (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 67.56 KBFeb 21 08:28
DaemonFCWhy does New Jersey have the most toxic waste dumps of any state in the US, while California has the most lawyers?Feb 21 08:28
DaemonFCNew Jersey got first call :)Feb 21 08:28
Diablo-D3<Linus> Hey RMS, whats best in life? <RMS> Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women <Linus> Dude, it was just a flame on a mailing list, get over itFeb 21 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Old] SA Military Helicopters and Jets for Libya http://ur1.ca/3avzc #Libya now uses them as gunships to massacre non-violent protestersFeb 21 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer yes, it seemed highly improbable. I thought my comment shed light on it...Feb 21 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rrix Looks like China will be protesting soon, too. http://ur1.ca/3am5wFeb 21 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China has enormous wealth (or potential for it), but it's poorly distributed and getting worse. No wonder the police cracks down hard.Feb 21 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US would never respond to protesters the way #egypt and #china did. Oh. Oops. http://ur1.ca/3aw03 (Kent State shootings)Feb 21 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ArabRevolution To Celebrate The #Jan25 Revolution, Egyptian Names Firstborn "Facebook” http://ur1.ca/3amjd << child abuse?Feb 21 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Libya protests: 140 'massacred' as Gaddafi sends in snipers to crush dissent http://ur1.ca/3ammb but they call the protesters "violent"...Feb 21 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   To Celebrate The #Jan25 Revolution, Egyptian Names His Firstborn “Facebook”  .::. Size~: 56.11 KBFeb 21 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya protests: 140 'massacred' as Gaddafi sends in snipers to crush dissent - Telegraph .::. Size~: 83.41 KBFeb 21 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Journalists Facing Extinction http://ur1.ca/3amwk because of cowardice, not deathsFeb 21 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Journalists Facing Extinction | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 28.73 KBFeb 21 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #QEMU 0.14 Improves #Linux Virtualization http://ur1.ca/3aw11 #vmFeb 21 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 6, 7 - 2011) http://bit.ly/i1sWfdFeb 21 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 6, 7 - 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 55.47 KBFeb 21 08:41
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=622&Itemid=9Feb 21 08:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission shows a weak hand to Hungary - IpTegrity.com .::. Size~: 41.19 KBFeb 21 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Commission shows a weak hand to #Hungary http://ur1.ca/3aw1v #orban #neofacism #censorship #mediarulesFeb 21 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody FBI Complains About Wiretapping Difficulties Due To Web Services - http://bit.ly/fUW3pQ useful hint, there... #privacyFeb 21 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @meegoportal RT @MeeGoExperts: Help to get #MeeGo running on the #Samsung #Galaxy #Tab http://mge.bz/3o #NothingsSafe #CommunityFeb 21 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @meegoportal sadly, when you buy a Tab you pay Microsoft. Samsung's #Ballnux is a case of putting patent tax on Linux. #swpats #linuxFeb 21 08:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI Complains About Wiretapping Difficulties Due To Web Services - Slashdot .::. Size~: 154.34 KBFeb 21 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Value Of Expertise http://ur1.ca/3aw2s excellent observationsFeb 21 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's monday... :(Feb 21 08:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Value Of Expertise | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 26.05 KBFeb 21 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex Microsoft boosters are like Stalin. Attacking all opositon. Look comments http://ur1.ca/3a2ndFeb 21 08:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Bans Its Own License (updated twice) - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 66.14 KBFeb 21 08:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, Is there a way you know of to get Debian to install KDE from a net install CD?Feb 21 08:53
DaemonFCI've installed it before from netinst but it only let me install GNOMEFeb 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Old] Government Delegate Compares Microsoft Methods to “Scientology Cult” http://ur1.ca/3aw3e #Microsoft #Scientology #EUFeb 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I feel sleepy... I really need a strong #tea...Feb 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ungethym: Mentor wanted for #KDE #GSoC http://is.gd/No0DKlFeb 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @whirli http://is.gd/xSIa2d #USA tried to force finland not to sell cheaper medicine to its people. How can you be disappointed with that?Feb 21 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government Delegate Compares Microsoft Methods to “Scientology Cult” | Techrights .::. Size~: 141.55 KBFeb 21 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thomas' blog: GSoC: Mentors wanted! - Elegant display settings for presentations .::. Size~: 56.28 KBFeb 21 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      Wikileaks: US Disappointed With Finnish Drug Law | News | YLE Uutiset | yle.fi .::. Size~: 52.25 KBFeb 21 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just had scrambled eggs and bacon for breakfast. I think I can get used to this low carb thing... :)Feb 21 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There was a mass Twitter closing spree on identi.ca started by Reality the other day" http://ur1.ca/3aw3v #identica #twitterFeb 21 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LxH Blog » Twitter account closed – Identi.ca Ftw .::. Size~: 39.86 KBFeb 21 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva "Important values" are mostly bullshit. Just an excuse for people to get a hardon about how great they are...Feb 21 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 US using Twitter to build WikiLeaks case http://is.gd/MWCNDJ !wlFeb 21 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Under the U.S. Supreme Court: Using Twitter to build WikiLeaks case - UPI.com .::. Size~: 74.75 KBFeb 21 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Telstra frees T-Hub open source code - http://bit.ly/gLSW3R another GPL violator toes the line #licensingFeb 21 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time to mobilize against a governmental takeover of DNS - http://bit.ly/dEglb0 indeedy #dnsFeb 21 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Japan rebuilds foreign intelligence service to spy on neighbours http://is.gd/7xiAsW !wlFeb 21 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How one company makes money growing followers on microblog accounts – then selling them on. http://bit.ly/fVYis8 not #twitter; but hmmFeb 21 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delimiter  – Telstra frees T-Hub open source code .::. Size~: 53.78 KBFeb 21 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time to mobilize against a governmental takeover of DNS .::. Size~: 36.77 KBFeb 21 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Japan rebuilds foreign intelligence service to spy on neighbours .::. Size~: 106.76 KBFeb 21 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How one company makes money growing followers on microblog accounts – then selling them on. .::. Size~: 81.11 KBFeb 21 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Platforms Leak: The Impact of Artificial Scarcity - http://bit.ly/g7GK0j big and getting bigger #scarcity #abundanceFeb 21 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @wikileaks2 @wikileaks since eavesdropping (to convict) !Wikileaks is done via twitter,why not concentrate on statusnet? http://ur1.ca/3aw3vFeb 21 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb Reputation manager with a good reputation? Is he is own client? Or is he actually good? http://tighturl.com/2yio #PRFeb 21 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb "the most damaging thing is a person with a lot of time & a lot of hate" & a full time job "managing reputations"Feb 21 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Platforms Leak: The Impact of Artificial Scarcity – confused of calcutta .::. Size~: 39.41 KBFeb 21 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @glynmoody Time to mobilize against a governmental takeover of DNS - http://bit.ly/dEglb0 indeedy #dnsFeb 21 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Major in the Universe http://xkcd.com/863/Feb 21 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Generally, all the abuse I ever get in microblogging comes from Twitter. In identi.ca there is no abuse; hardly any spam, either.Feb 21 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Thunderbird Indicator Adds Folders Support http://goo.gl/WJE3s !uFeb 21 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Scientol... #Mono cult lives in Twitter, not identi.ca. Their ringleaders, ppl like Microsoft MVP de Icaza, insist on avoiding identica.Feb 21 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I accidentally prepared a caffeine free #tea for me... :/ I think, I _really_ need caffeine right now...Feb 21 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird Indicator Adds Folders Support ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 57.16 KBFeb 21 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTH is Bild following me on Twitter? Kotzwürg. This might be the last straw....Feb 21 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Ex-FBI agent held in Iran, may have left clue on prison wall http://is.gd/B3SxHV !wlFeb 21 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @floeff Nearly 50% of the required capital stock donated - AMAZING! Thanks so much! http://is.gd/fIhHHf #libo #tdf #tdfchallengeFeb 21 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  AllGov - News - Ex-FBI Agent Still Missing in Iran after almost 4 Years  .::. Size~: 64.87 KBFeb 21 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate » LibreOffice 50,000 Euro Challenge .::. Size~: 9.25 KBFeb 21 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ian McEwan attacks 'great injustice' in Israel - http://bit.ly/ga2dBM good for him #israel #palestineFeb 21 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ANC a 'complete mess': !Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/3aw6f #ifwlFeb 21 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Ian McEwan attacks 'great injustice' in Israel | Books | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 103.8 KBFeb 21 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  ANC a 'complete mess': Wikileaks - Times LIVE  .::. Size~: 58.44 KBFeb 21 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Starting today, readers of Página/12 begin to have access to all cables Wikileaks over Argentina." http://ur1.ca/3aw77Feb 21 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Swedish Courts Coming To Senses: €200 Filesharing Fine http://ur1.ca/3aw7e #sweden #copyrightFeb 21 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google Gets Involved in #BitTorrent Search Engine Lawsuit - http://bit.ly/fjfX4V posing a question that needs answering #searchFeb 21 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Página/12 :: El país :: Wikileaks en “Página/12”  .::. Size~: 37.44 KBFeb 21 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Swedish Courts Coming To Senses: €200 Filesharing Fine - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 75.34 KBFeb 21 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Google Gets Involved in BitTorrent Search Engine Lawsuit | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 30.4 KBFeb 21 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] House votes 244-179 to kill U.S. funding of IPCC http://ur1.ca/3aw7i #koch #ipcc #astroturf #scienceFeb 21 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: House votes 244-179 to kill U.S. funding of IPCC | Climate Science Watch .::. Size~: 60.36 KBFeb 21 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think I need more coffee....Feb 21 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Colombia on Wikileaks http://is.gd/d7PeUI !wlFeb 21 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Colombia en Wikileaks | ELESPECTADOR.COM  .::. Size~: 93.53 KBFeb 21 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vehicle-to-Vehicle #WiFi Could Be a Lifesaver - http://bit.ly/fv3ncK interesting hacking possibilities coming? #carsFeb 21 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building the Technology Stack for Internet Freedom http://ur1.ca/3aw86 v. hot subject these days.Feb 21 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Evolution - Joe Grimm - Vehicle-to-Vehicle WiFi Could Be a Lifesaver .::. Size~: 210.22 KBFeb 21 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Building the Technology Stack for Internet Freedom: Tech News and Analysis « .::. Size~: 74.17 KBFeb 21 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: There will be no live #LinuxOutlaws tonight. We will let you know when exactly we are recording the show later in the week...Feb 21 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @agentsmith Libyan forces fire machine-guns at crowd of mourners http://yhoo.it/hOD2TuFeb 21 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Libya does not manufacture machine guns. Worth finding out their make (or source of import). #MilitaryIndustrialComplex #warbizFeb 21 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libyan protesters and security clash in capital, as Gadhafi's son warns of civil war - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 197.38 KBFeb 21 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @MMFlint States r running out of $$ cause the rich haven't been paying their taxes & they've destroyed the middle class (more lost tax$)Feb 21 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 393 has been released. This week's Feature Story: Introducing !Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 http://goo.gl/mbqcUFeb 21 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tell Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to start paying taxes. They avoid it by setting up schemes, like many others. http://ur1.ca/3aw99Feb 21 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's worse than looting society? Looting it and then refusing to pay tax on the loot. Laws written by the rich for the rich => rogue stateFeb 21 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] OMG, a pink stretch limoFeb 21 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 96.52 KBFeb 21 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @MMFlint From @tmorello (RageAgstMach): The Battle of Madison. Monday/100k expected. History in the streets. Be there, I will. It's ON.Feb 21 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Farrah3m: THE PPL OF #LIBYA ASKED FOR THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS AND RECEIVED BULLETS IN RETURN.Feb 21 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Elop Says Nokia Deal is About Patents http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/elop-says-nokia-deal-is-about-patents/Feb 21 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Elop Says Nokia Deal is About Patents .::. Size~: 26.7 KBFeb 21 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PS3 Jailbreaker #GeoHot Asks For Donation To Defend Against #SCOny http://ur1.ca/3awa4Feb 21 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #SCOny just SLAPPing #GeoHot and exploiting loopholes? http://ur1.ca/3awafFeb 21 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PS3 Jailbreaker GeoHot Asks For Donation To Defend Against Sony | Very Rite .::. Size~: 24.37 KBFeb 21 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Strategic lawsuit against public participation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 60.93 KBFeb 21 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] State of Maemo, Q12011.1 http://ur1.ca/3awak #Nokia #MeeGo #Maemo #LinuxFeb 21 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bonnshakespeare: Vorsprechtexte und Rollenprofile für #Taming of the Shrew findet Ihr auf http://busc.de! Auswendiglernen ist nicht nötigFeb 21 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm #climatechange deniers like science when it gives them #iPads & airplanes, but not when it warns us to curve pollution.Feb 21 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: maemo.org - Community Council: State of Maemo, Q12011.1 .::. Size~: 54.78 KBFeb 21 09:28
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MinceRwinblows managed to freeze in less than 10 minutes from getting to workFeb 21 09:28
MinceRready for the desktop, yeah rightFeb 21 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Soldiers in #Libya - do the RIGHT thing. Protect the people, not a dictator who has lost his mental health.Feb 21 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm @jwildeboer @carlopiana: As a former soldier, it's obscene to me how oppressive regimes—esp. the #USA—use their forces.Feb 21 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Freedom first http://ur1.ca/3awb9 #fedora #linuxFeb 21 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @no_to_war: #Libya livestream reports Army forces join Benghazi protesters, heading 2 airport 2 deal w/ mercenaries http://bit.ly/ikvas5Feb 21 09:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya17Feb - live streaming video powered by Livestream .::. Size~: 41.68 KBFeb 21 09:31
DaemonFCI might try out OpenBallnux 11.4Feb 21 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh I was getting annoyed with a stream of new posts called "photo" taking up the stream, never occurred to look, you saved me tyFeb 21 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android’s New Problem: Not Enough Fragmentation! http://ur1.ca/3aryt #linux #diversityFeb 21 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android’s New Problem: Not Enough Fragmentation! .::. Size~: 66.59 KBFeb 21 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Farrah3m: Can u believe tht Gaddafi once said “There is no state with a democracy except #Libya on the whole planet.” Uh huh...Feb 21 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] MASKINERNA ÄR VÅRA VÄNNERFeb 21 09:38
DaemonFCOpenBallnux 11.4, the Gordon GeekoFeb 21 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb He's done it before. I warned him that shots of his boobs aren't exactly what we want on the planet....Feb 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hillary Clinton, #Hypocrisy at its Finest http://ur1.ca/3awd8 "brutally beaten and arrested for silently protesting" #democracy #freedomFeb 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lxoliva @fabsh isn't freedom the ultimate feature? << Only to those who lost their freedom and therefore value its existenceFeb 21 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Hillary Clinton, Hypocrisy at its Finest | HillaryClinton.us .::. Size~: 16 KBFeb 21 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eben Moglen: A free world needs #freesoftware http://ping.fm/tbuFJ #euFeb 21 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having a mug of #nescafé... I hope that helps me waking up.Feb 21 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Eben Moglen: A free world needs free software - New Europe .::. Size~: 48.81 KBFeb 21 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz @lxoliva It obviously isn't. If it was, we'd have majority market share and not Windows. Think about it....Feb 21 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter @ender2070 People are allowed to disagree with me. People aren't allowed to disagree with reality :)Feb 21 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter people are allowed to disagree with reality, but then they should expect no respect from people(religion is similar sometimes)Feb 21 09:46
DaemonFCdownloading a KDE Live CD of the Gordon Geeko v. 11.4 RCFeb 21 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh false dichotomy of sorts. cc @lxolivaFeb 21 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HB Gary 'puppets' FAIL to convince http://ur1.ca/3awf0 how many VIsta Phony 7 "fans" are just the same PR agent for example? Routine...Feb 21 09:49
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HB Gary 'puppets' FAIL to convince • The Register .::. Size~: 23.29 KBFeb 21 09:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, Greed is goodFeb 21 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @GMWatch The !wikileaks cable showing #Berlusconi stopped an anti-#GMO crops law for U.S. http://bit.ly/elRUhj #gmo #wlFeb 21 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 57.41 KBFeb 21 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @schestowitz As usual, disagreement on the semantics. What are the projected consequences of being "the ultimate feature"?Feb 21 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] DOJ Asks Novell and Microsoft About Their Patent Deal http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/doj-asks-about-patent-deal/Feb 21 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   DOJ Asks Novell and Microsoft About Their Patent Deal .::. Size~: 26.3 KBFeb 21 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Thunderbird Indicator Adds Folders Support http://bit.ly/fttPR3Feb 21 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Advertising is about understanding your target audience. To be a good advertiser, you need to clearly define that audience.Feb 21 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird Indicator Adds Folders Support ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 57.16 KBFeb 21 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a branch of government, apart from an average voter?" - #Discworld #GoingPostalFeb 21 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz Is that what you say if you don't have any counter-arguments?Feb 21 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh no, I think you're assuming that making Linux non-free will have it beat Windows or, if I read this correctly, that Linux lostFeb 21 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh the goal is to offer people who want a free system a *good* free system, not to take over the world with market shareFeb 21 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @clacke I was thinking expeditionary force but eviction force is even more apt. Descriptive and accurate.Feb 21 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Samsung Unveils Galaxy Tab 10.1 http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/galaxy-tab-10-1/Feb 21 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jonobacon GIMP is such an awesome app, but it needs new devs - interested? see http://www.gimp.org/develop/ for more details! #gimpFeb 21 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Very little knowledge of Libyan politics but of the recent uprisings this one seems most likely to end up in a fractured mess.Feb 21 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Samsung Unveils Galaxy Tab 10.1 .::. Size~: 27.07 KBFeb 21 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Is GNOME Open-By-Rule?: The GNOME Project Dave Neary has kindly agreed to supply data for an Open-By-Rule eval... http://wmk.me/iilw6bFeb 21 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC reporter stated that opposition was becoming more organised even to the point of acquiring weapons. This is very worrying. #LibyaFeb 21 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I'm not assuming anything. All I'm saying that freedom isn't feature number one for 99.99% of the population.Feb 21 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @miko @toshi コッチは晴れてるFeb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz That might be your goal. My goal is to offer people a better alternative. Freedom is a nice by-product but nothing more.Feb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I rather have 1 million people using Linux with nonfree blobs then 10 people using the libre kernel.Feb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #US hypocrisy in full effect, US accuses UK of legitimising Gaddafi http://tighturl.com/2ykh #politicsFeb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz And that's about as much uptake as each will get realistically IMO.Feb 21 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there needs to be a magazine called Hypocrisy Today, mostly in English of course could have regular US & UK sectionsFeb 21 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] GTK+, #MeeGo Handset integration: Week 3 http://goo.gl/E0Xp7 !gnomeFeb 21 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] andrea azzarone: Change launcher icon size in !Unity. http://goo.gl/j3AcQ #YouTube video: http://goo.gl/iuEgp via @bognarandras !uFeb 21 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Intel Remain Committed to MeeGo http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/intel-committed-to-meego/Feb 21 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] controversial because of close ties to the China govt, US corps have "close ties" to the US govt #lobbyists http://tighturl.com/2ykjFeb 21 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Despite current events there is still no reason why a single party system could not be more democratic than a lot of our multi party ones.Feb 21 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet it's not controversial, it's normal to want US corps to control foreign companies and infrastructure #hypocrisyFeb 21 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I do not particularly favour a single party system but do not dismiss it as inherently anti democratic.Feb 21 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Haguichi (#Hamachi GUI) Reaches Version 1.0.5 http://goo.gl/xIvb4 available from the WebUpd8 Haguichi !PPA: http://goo.gl/bCM0zFeb 21 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fox ‘News’: Serving #Koch Brothers, Serving Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/3awp5 #google #SwitchOffFox #deception #microsoftFeb 21 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #FoxNews : Serving #KochBrothers , Serving Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/3awp5 #propaganda #fcc #glennbeckFeb 21 10:36
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oiaohmhttp://delimiter.com.au/2011/02/21/telstra-frees-t-hub-open-source-code/  There will be more of these.Feb 21 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Resending @fabsh to @sandersch Civil Liberties are A LOT more important than software freedom » Seconded hereFeb 21 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Haguichi (Hamachi GUI) Reaches Version 1.0.5 http://bit.ly/fGx1MeFeb 21 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Displex Indicator Can Now Enable/Disable The Screensaver, More [Version 0.6, Released] http://bit.ly/hWz9Q0Feb 21 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AstroTurfing Businesses Not Just a Theory http://ur1.ca/3awq8 on #Microsoft #AstroTurfing see http://ur1.ca/3awqc putting in perspectiveFeb 21 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Jono Bacon is Drumming Up Support to Help Fix Unity http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/jono-bacon-support-to-help-fix-unity/Feb 21 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fabsh: @sandersch You are talking out of your ass. Tell that to somebody getting his fingernails ripped out in Libya.Feb 21 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] JP Rosevear Quits #Novell , Joins #Mozilla http://ur1.ca/3awsh #suse #opensuseFeb 21 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Microsoft Bans Copyleft Licenses from Windows Phone App Store http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/microsoft-bans-copyleft-licenses/Feb 21 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Displex Indicator Can Now Enable/Disable The Screensaver, More [Version 0.6, Released] http://goo.gl/3ai9xFeb 21 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My company with it's own little !debian page :) http://www.debian.org/users/com/eurogaraninformaticaFeb 21 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just got a four machine mesh network going about six or seven hundred feet apart :3Feb 21 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Geneva convention prohibits "waterboarding, electrocution, mutilation, using proprietary software" ahh yes the GNU version of the documentFeb 21 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all officially listed as tortureFeb 21 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Gtmo have it all wrong, they only need let inmates use #Windows - they'll confess to anything to avoid that fateFeb 21 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] not to self, remember to change the ! to # on redents, sorryFeb 21 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @fabsh @schestowitz I'm not assuming anything. All I'm saying that freedom isn't feature number one for 99.99% of the population.Feb 21 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Mine OS http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/mine-os/Feb 21 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Sorry, but people bullshitting like that just annoys me. It's wasting time, nothing else....Feb 21 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @sandersch Free speech is being free to disagree « I second that too :)Feb 21 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: How the atom bomb helped give birth to the Internet http://goo.gl/VyrOeFeb 21 11:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm on OpenSuse 11.4 right nowFeb 21 11:16
DaemonFCit's fairly not badFeb 21 11:16
DaemonFC:/Feb 21 11:16
*DaemonFC noticed that he still had to prevent it from installing Sun Java and a few other really big turdsFeb 21 11:17
DaemonFC:PFeb 21 11:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh your on OpenSuse?Feb 21 11:17
sebsebsebhmFeb 21 11:17
DaemonFCyeahFeb 21 11:17
sebsebsebI thought OpenSuse wasn't liked that much around here, beause of Novell hate?Feb 21 11:17
DaemonFCgrabbing some bling right nowFeb 21 11:17
DaemonFCI got my Catalyst 11.2 drivers installedFeb 21 11:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I was thinking Sabayon earlier maybe for a bitFeb 21 11:18
sebsebseb,butFeb 21 11:18
DaemonFCgot it to accept XFS for the whole smashFeb 21 11:18
sebsebsebI don't know, it might be Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 3 on here for real, replacieng PC LInux OS, next month, dont' know yetFeb 21 11:18
DaemonFCI noticed it let me edit the fstab options in the installerFeb 21 11:18
sebsebsebor just keep this and sort out Virtualbox 4.0+ and do Unity in that at timesFeb 21 11:19
sebsebsebhmmFeb 21 11:19
DaemonFCso I typed delaylog,inode64,noikeep,logbufs=8,logbsize=262144,noatime :)Feb 21 11:19
DaemonFCdelaylog gave XFS a nice boost, especially on small filesFeb 21 11:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: about at all?Feb 21 11:21
DaemonFCI've compared it with Ext4 in this configuration and came to the conclusion that it's slightly slower on small files, about the same on large-ish files (few hundred megs), and way faster on files of the gigabyte+ rangeFeb 21 11:21
DaemonFCoverallFeb 21 11:21
DaemonFCI can live with that, I mainly deal with huge-ish filesFeb 21 11:21
DaemonFCXFS is really popular with people who use NAS or use their system as a DVRFeb 21 11:22
*DaemonFC does not see btrfs replacing it for these use casesFeb 21 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One Last Sellout From #Novell (MPEG-LA, Microsoft Patent Traps) http://ur1.ca/3ax1l #swpats #mpegla #webm #mono #moonlightFeb 21 11:23
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DaemonFCsebsebseb, the KDE desktop of OpenSuse has no Mono at allFeb 21 11:23
DaemonFCit's the defaultFeb 21 11:23
DaemonFCI think they're happy just to let Novell pollute the GNOME side of the distroFeb 21 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] One Last Sellout From Novell (MPEG-LA, Microsoft Patent Traps) http://ur1.ca/3ax1l #patents #monodroid #android #csharp #dotnetFeb 21 11:24
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DaemonFCthere are qt bindings for Mono, but I don't think they've been updated for qt4, if that tells you how popular Mono is in KDEFeb 21 11:24
DaemonFC:DFeb 21 11:24
DaemonFCif you try bringing things like Banshee into KDE, they don't work rightFeb 21 11:25
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uhmm Kubuntu is like that as well  I guess, no Mono by defaultFeb 21 11:25
DaemonFCBanshee for example, needs gnome-settings-daemon running ot else it can't load a web browser when you click on hyperlinksFeb 21 11:26
DaemonFCand if you run gnome-settings-daemon, it tries to take over a lot of your desktop, including setting the wallpaperFeb 21 11:26
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 11:26
DaemonFCso then you have to bring in gconf-editor to get gnome-settings-daemon under control so it doesn't fuck over your KDE desktop but it enables Banshee to work rightFeb 21 11:27
DaemonFCit doesn't exactly Just Work for KDE usersFeb 21 11:27
DaemonFCand it's because they gratuitously and needlessly depend on things in GNOMEFeb 21 11:27
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uhmm I haven't had problems running Banshee in KDE in more than one dsitroFeb 21 11:27
DaemonFCthey COULD have just passed the URL to xdg-openFeb 21 11:27
DaemonFCbut they don'tFeb 21 11:27
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 11:27
DaemonFCtry authenticating for Last.FMFeb 21 11:28
DaemonFCor clicking hyperlinks in the Amazon MP3 store that need to open in a browserFeb 21 11:28
sebsebsebuhmm yeah I think there may be an issue or an issue still, with Banshee and last.fmFeb 21 11:28
DaemonFCor even clicking the links in About BansheeFeb 21 11:28
DaemonFCwell, you can get around that without gnome-settings-daemonFeb 21 11:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anyway I am catching up with tecybtes a bit again and wellFeb 21 11:28
sebsebsebThisleWeb/Gordon had his prediction about Nokia and well yepFeb 21 11:29
sebsebsebhe was pretty much rightFeb 21 11:29
DaemonFCstart banshee from the terminal and click the finish logging in button and the url it tries to load appears in the terminalFeb 21 11:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: the 2011 predictions I mean, I am quite a lot behindFeb 21 11:29
DaemonFCcopy paste it and it takes you to the page where you can authorize Banshee to access last.fmFeb 21 11:29
DaemonFCnot exactly user friendlyFeb 21 11:29
DaemonFCdoesn't Just Work in KDEFeb 21 11:29
DaemonFCI think they do this shit on purpose to keep it from working in KDEFeb 21 11:29
sebsebsebTechbytes aboveFeb 21 11:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: why are you on OpenSuse exactly?Feb 21 11:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and even if your using KDE your using something with Novell behind it really? even though it's a community distro?Feb 21 11:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anyway I tried out a development version of what would become OpenSuse 11.4 in a virtual machine or whatever, and it was like yast? how to install software?Feb 21 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Internet 'kill switch' is dead, but bill calls for cybersecurity plan http://is.gd/bHPBNvFeb 21 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] IMHO, the new !radiohead album is not worth +- 1€/min if you bought the newspaper edition with CD + vinyl + whatnot.Feb 21 11:31
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DaemonFCyast is a big bloated beastFeb 21 11:32
DaemonFCbut it has gotten fasterFeb 21 11:32
DaemonFCjust avoid it and use kpackagekit? :)Feb 21 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] At #Novel l, Free Sometimes Means Free Trial, Not Libre http://ur1.ca/3ax4n #sentinelFeb 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At !Novell , Free Sometimes Means Free Trial, Not Libre http://ur1.ca/3ax4n #sentinel #novellFeb 21 11:33
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DaemonFCKonqueror for some reason seems to haul ass if compiled with GCC 4.5Feb 21 11:33
DaemonFCI experimented with GCC 4.6 a little, but it's way more strict than 4.5 isFeb 21 11:34
DaemonFCit can't even compile some Linux kernel modulesFeb 21 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: One Last Sellout From #Novell (MPEG-LA, Microsoft Patent Traps) http://ur1.ca/3ax1l #swpats #mpegla #webm #mono #moonlightFeb 21 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @beginlinux: Join our upcoming live #ubuntu server classes http://bit.ly/fMFj7Feb 21 11:34
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DaemonFCabout half the modules in staging won't build with gcc 4.6Feb 21 11:36
DaemonFCpeople are going to have to do a massive code cleanup before 4.6 is widely distributedFeb 21 11:37
DaemonFCit detects my printer :)Feb 21 11:39
DaemonFCfor some reason Opera went nuts while I was printing something earlier and sent a black page to CUPSFeb 21 11:40
DaemonFCthere went five bucks :PFeb 21 11:40
oiaohmDaemonFC: also beware over half the modules in staging don't pass static anlisation either.Feb 21 11:41
oiaohmBy the Linux kernel normal tools for it.  DaemonFCFeb 21 11:41
DaemonFCthey're in staging because they're not good enough to be given the green lightFeb 21 11:41
oiaohmIe they are crap.Feb 21 11:41
DaemonFCGreg KH already warned people it's not meant to be a dumpFeb 21 11:42
DaemonFCthey're meant to improve and be officially includedFeb 21 11:42
oiaohmGcc 4.6 will help the process.Feb 21 11:42
DaemonFCit's turned into a dumpFeb 21 11:42
DaemonFCthere's only a couple modules I allow it to build from stagingFeb 21 11:42
oiaohmLot are impoving.Feb 21 11:42
oiaohmJust not fast enough.Feb 21 11:43
oiaohmgcc 4.6 will be a good kick up ass.Feb 21 11:43
DaemonFCthat's only because the experimental ralink drivers are faster, drop connections lessFeb 21 11:43
oiaohmAnd ralink drivers are fairly clean as well.Feb 21 11:43
oiaohmI would not have been supprised if that had worked with 4.6Feb 21 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] New EU-Korea free trade agreement goes beyond #ACTA on copyright, patents http://ur1.ca/3ax6a #failFeb 21 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity Launcher Gets Unofficial Patch To Allow Icon Resizing. But Will It Be Approved? http://goo.gl/hUTMO !uFeb 21 11:44
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Gcc 4.6 still has 99 bugs open.Feb 21 11:46
oiaohmScary enough some dating back to 4.3Feb 21 11:48
DaemonFCI've gotten to where I prefer Konqueror to FirefoxFeb 21 11:48
DaemonFCit doesn't "feel" as bloated and it has everything I use built in :)Feb 21 11:49
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I was like that at times as wellFeb 21 11:49
sebsebsebKonqueror is pretty nice :)Feb 21 11:49
sebsebsebSeamonkey is as well though :dFeb 21 11:49
oiaohmwebkit has helped  Konqueror at lot.Feb 21 11:49
DaemonFCnow for the off page that breaks in KHTML, I can just view as webkitFeb 21 11:49
sebsebseboiaohm: Webkit shoudn't really exist I guess, since Apple could have improved KHTML inteadFeb 21 11:51
sebsebsebinsteadFeb 21 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Protesters in #Libya capital ransack HQ of state TV, set fire to gov't building, according to media reports. http://on.cnn.com/fXwvbvFeb 21 11:51
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DaemonFCin some ways, KHTML is better than WebkitFeb 21 11:52
DaemonFCbut in some ways, Webkit is better than KHTMLFeb 21 11:52
DaemonFCit's inevitable with a fork :)Feb 21 11:52
oiaohmRealy there is a lot wrong with KHTMLFeb 21 11:52
DaemonFCfor example, Webkit renders faster, but KHTML has the ability to allow resources to be stopped before they loadFeb 21 11:53
DaemonFCWebkit only kind of sort of does thatFeb 21 11:53
DaemonFCit's why there are no good adblock options for ChromeFeb 21 11:53
oiaohmBut webkit is so incompadbile with khtml and Konqueror was so heavily designed what khtml that is a head ache to change over.Feb 21 11:53
oiaohmThere is a filtering option for Webkit link by link.Feb 21 11:53
DaemonFCwhenever I install gstreamer plugins I think of Ash from the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness moviesFeb 21 11:55
DaemonFCGood....Bad...I'm the guy with the gun! :)Feb 21 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity Launcher Gets Unofficial Patch To Allow Icon Resizing. But Will It Be Approved? http://bit.ly/etWMXjFeb 21 11:56
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DaemonFCoiaohm, what's your thoughts on gstreamer v. vlc as phonon backends?Feb 21 11:56
oiaohmgstreamer is not too bad.Feb 21 11:57
oiaohmFor the basic bit I have played with so far.Feb 21 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Aha, I see, that's a good idea, as long as it doesn't duplicate?Feb 21 11:58
oiaohmI have not got to trying vlc yet.  DaemonFCFeb 21 11:58
DaemonFCI've tried bothFeb 21 11:58
DaemonFCgstreamer is less CPU intensive, but VLC has better accuracy with decoding most audio streamsFeb 21 11:59
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] No duplicates arrived at Twitter. I'm impressed!Feb 21 11:59
DaemonFCthat's my observationFeb 21 12:00
DaemonFCI think VLC should be preferred unless your CPU is a pile of crap :)Feb 21 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] we want to see your name and colleges name. Please add - http://lug-iitd.org/FOSS_Representative_of_Indian_Colleges_and_InstitutesFeb 21 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Milan airport update: Wounded Tunisian man is said to have driven on runway with knife, trying to reach wife - AGI http://bit.ly/e6uKDkFeb 21 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @nileshgr Congrats RT @ershus: Got first prize in paper presentation in Prayaana 2011 @ NCERC. Topic was git version control :) !foss ...Feb 21 12:03
DaemonFCOpenSuse has switched to LibreOfficeFeb 21 12:03
schestowitzObviouslyFeb 21 12:04
schestowitzFrom go-OOXMLFeb 21 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @Dima_Khatib: in #Benghazi, witnesses are saying civilians are getting organised to fill the security gap. Same as in #Egypt & #TunisiaFeb 21 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Voluntarily Promoting User-Hostile Proprietary Software Vendors http://ur1.ca/3axbd #apple #microsoft #mvp #pr #koch #astroturfFeb 21 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Voluntarily Promoting User-Hostile Proprietary Software Vendors http://ur1.ca/3axbd #teaparty #publicrelations #deceptionFeb 21 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Getshitdone o'clock. let's see if I have the man to do this.Feb 21 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just installed the stable !android x86 eeepc 2.2 Froyo to my netbook. So far so good :)Feb 21 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Libya Faces Civil War; #Qaddafi's Son Says Rivers of Blood Will Flow; Chaos in Morocco; Oil Spikes http://bit.ly/dLbPS2 Is it Oil or arrogaFeb 21 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @clacke on class it was more like 50% or moreFeb 21 12:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Due to #Novell , #Microsoft Still Profits From the London Stock Exchange and From Watson in ‘Jeopardy!’ http://ur1.ca/3axey #lse #ibmFeb 21 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Due to Novell, Microsoft Still Profits From the London Stock Exchange and From Watson in ‘Jeopardy!’ http://ur1.ca/3axey #Watson #JeopardyFeb 21 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @boycottnovell Yeah I read that. They had to use Novell to support existing exchange Lockin if I remember?Feb 21 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] wikileaks.ch is presently experiencing difficulties. Try http://wikileaks.de instead !wlFeb 21 12:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 21-Feb-11 12:30:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @boycottnovell Yeah I read that. They had to use Novell to support existing exchange Lockin if I remember?Feb 21 12:40
schestowitzI'm not sure why Novell has something to offer wrt exchange that others cannot offerFeb 21 12:41
schestowitzHmm...Feb 21 12:41
schestowitzI'll dent it........Feb 21 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Promoting OpenSUSE is Not the Same as Promoting Mono http://ur1.ca/3axit #suse #opensuse #monoFeb 21 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mardomak: PHOTO Iranians living in London protest on #1Esfand against Iran's regime http://tinyurl.com/48qz3ho [But dates are odd]Feb 21 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Promoting OpenSUSE is Not the Same as Promoting Mono http://ur1.ca/3axit #spin #banshee #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] @silner I'm not sure why Novell has something to offer wrt exchange that others cannot offerFeb 21 12:41
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MinceRi think everyone can offer a quick cfdisk on exchangeFeb 21 12:41
MinceRand then install a usable email serverFeb 21 12:41
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MinceR(along with a usable OS)Feb 21 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New cables for Colombia, Chile, Guatemala, Mexico, Argentina http://alturl.com/2ykrx !wlFeb 21 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hackerville, Romania http://outl.ws/hW9Nmc -- via SchneierFeb 21 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Following the Microsoft-Nokia deal, does Qt have a future, or is it going to die? Your opinions wanted! http://tinyurl.com/4hcje3vFeb 21 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Has anybody been able to scan with a *duplex* ADF w/ hp5590 or any other ADF scanners? Mine gives odd+even page in p1, garbage in p2Feb 21 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RS @julienguigner: Watch #Aljazeera with Linux & !mplayer http://ping.fm/NEX55Feb 21 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #GWAVACon 2011 and #BrainShare 2011 Not Dead (Yet) http://ur1.ca/3axpt #novell #groupwiseFeb 21 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GWAVACon 2011 and BrainShare 2011 Not Dead (Yet) http://ur1.ca/3axpt #RonHovsepian #microsoft #attachmsft #mailFeb 21 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh @methoddan so looking forward to todays show! You guys start at the usual time? ;-)Feb 21 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTF is Miguel going on about now? Has Microsoft finally driven the guy insane?Feb 21 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Yes. I believe you are a guest this week, remember? ;)Feb 21 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A Windows upgrade would be nice ;-) http://twitpic.com/427dhb via @balanionut #microsoft #windowsFeb 21 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I said this to someone the other day, but there are growing reasons for me to suspect Miguel is one of life's wind up merchantsFeb 21 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Linux Planet is quickly becoming unreadable by virtue of that Linux Commando idiot who apprently can't write legible English at all...Feb 21 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] STUPID CRAPPY FLASH PLUGIN! STOP CRASHING! AAAAAAAARRRGRGGHHHHHH! </rant>Feb 21 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Is this guy using Google Translate to write this crap? http://outl.ws/ewr9hh -- I mean.... WTF!?Feb 21 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell on Fog Computing, !Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/3axvv #FogComputingFeb 21 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Novell on Fog Computing, Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/3axvv #vm #security #leak #serverFeb 21 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #OMGFailBuntu manages to miss the most important meaning of natty, of course http://outl.ws/hdjfte -- happens when you only listen to metal.Feb 21 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Interview with #Intel Peter Biddle, #MeeGo, the Cosmos and Beyond http://mge.bz/3s #AppUp #MWC11 #QtFeb 21 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Prakash Advani: #Intel CEO says #Nokia should have picked !Android http://goo.gl/4tGmlFeb 21 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Holy shit! This looks bad for Guttenberg: http://outl.ws/hdjfte 68% of pages are plagiarised! OoFeb 21 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oooh. Nice. 0day exploits for social networks. http://www.socialnetworksecurity.org/en/index.php - cc @mikkohypponenFeb 21 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh You surely meant http://de.guttenplag.wikia.com/wiki/Plagiate and not that OMG! link?Feb 21 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Live Reporting from the #Wisconsin Protests http://ur1.ca/3ay03 #koch #corruptionFeb 21 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tough action on #climate change is 'cost-effective', EU report shows http://ur1.ca/3ay1e #eu #globalwarmingFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Quassel2Go: a modern IRC client http://goo.gl/Wfn9h #OviStore #N900 #MaemoFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Techno Junky: play sounds and flash colors when you move your mobile http://goo.gl/r6txG #OviStore #N900 #MaemoFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anne Will und ZDF sehen Guttenber-Skandal als "Pogrom". WTF!? Das ist vielleicht öffentlich aber lange nicht rechtlich.... OoFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: GOM Reminder: a fast and simple reminder system http://goo.gl/eLfWt #OviStore #N900 #MaemoFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Lights Out!: turn off all the lights http://goo.gl/61YYT #OviStore #N900 #MaemoFeb 21 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Yes.Feb 21 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I totally dig the title "Copy & Paste Universität Beyreuth". That is ace.... :DFeb 21 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Guttenberg, der Rip-Mix-Print Minister. Summa cum laude für so etwas? Bayern, Exzellenzcluster? ... http://ur1.ca/39qv5Feb 21 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff 33.000 EUR - it's unbelievable. You all rock! Only 17.000 EUR missing: http://challenge.documentfoundation.org !libo !tdf #td ...Feb 21 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] CSU - Copy Shop University mit Summa cum laude für den Kandidaten und eine Ehrenmedaille für den Doktorvater. Adel verpflichtet? #GuttenbergFeb 21 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @robmyers ♺ @julienguigner: Watch Aljazeera on GNU/Linux - https://gist.github.com/836999 #fbFeb 21 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gist: 836999 - Watch Aljazeera on GNU/Linux - For lower quality use "aljazeera_en_high" or "aljazeera_en_low" - For arabic version use "aljazeera_ar_veryhigh" - GitHub .::. Size~: 10.39 KBFeb 21 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Demand for #uranium threatens Grand Canyon biodiversity http://ur1.ca/3ay47 Planet could be 'unrecognizable' by 2050 http://ur1.ca/3ay4eFeb 21 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] No matter how hard I try, duplex ADF & SANE are a #FAIL (see ex.). Got hundreds d.sided pages to scan, PLS help! http://ur1.ca/3ay4gFeb 21 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: What's Happening in the Class Action Against Sony About Removing OtherOS? = http://bit.ly/eNMQQ4Feb 21 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] ♺ @NSlayton Saif #Gaddafi blamed !Canada for chaos... 1st time someone's blamed Canada for war outside of South Park #libyaFeb 21 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A quick look to 5 #Linux #Games http://ur1.ca/3asda "some are probably already well known and widespread in the community."Feb 21 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Lord British on how to make a truely great game: http://outl.ws/fIJ2dN -- some really good points. Makes me long back for my #Ultima days...Feb 21 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ArchBang 2010.09 vs 2011.02 - What's Changed? http://ur1.ca/3ay5q #gnu #linuxFeb 21 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz If they disagree with reality they should expect no respect from priests like me (I am a lay priest).Feb 21 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 22 #Linux Icon Sets that are Great http://ur1.ca/3ay61 very large collection, fun to scroll through...Feb 21 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @themadhatter: ♺ @NSlayton Saif #Gaddafi blamed !Canada for chaos... 1st time someone's blamed Canada for war outside of South Park #libyaFeb 21 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Raleigh, NC—the world's first open source city | http://bit.ly/fIX8Ai #opengov #gov20Feb 21 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 21 February, 1965 - Malcolm X was assassinated at the age of 39.Feb 21 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: MSFT cry foul when governments want to use Open Source but discriminate against GPLv3 in their own ecosystem. #strangeFeb 21 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh please don't use "cybercrime", crime is crime no matter what tools are used and that term only feeds a fantasy world used as excuse.Feb 21 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If I read 339 mails now, my private inbox will be down to exactly 12345 unread mails! :-) #ThingsWorthDoingFeb 21 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Libya turns off the Internet and the Massacres begin http://ur1.ca/3aya5 shows why Internet law and software freedom matter _a lot_Feb 21 14:13
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65031095Feb 21 14:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 21-Feb-11 13:42:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Fannie, Freddie's Legal "Feeding Frenzy" Costs Taxpayers $434 Million  http://ur1.ca/3ay3c DDOSing the legal system, at your expenseFeb 21 14:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Fannie, Freddie's Legal "Feeding Frenzy" Costs Taxpayers $434 Million | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 101.33 KBFeb 21 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ♻ @julienguigner: Watch Aljazeera on GNU/Linux - https://gist.github.com/836999 #gnu #linuxFeb 21 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] JP Rosevear Quits #Novell , Joins #Mozilla http://ur1.ca/3awsh #suse #opensuseFeb 21 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] AstroTurfing Businesses Not Just a Theory http://ur1.ca/3awq8 on #Microsoft #AstroTurfing see http://ur1.ca/3awqc putting in perspectiveFeb 21 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Does Peter Bright work for #Microsoft? or is he beefing up his portfolio so they come headhunting him? http://tighturl.com/2yl1Feb 21 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] You'd think a new marketplace with only a few apps wouldn't want to turn devs away so fast with backward rules, but it is #MicrosoftFeb 21 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Iran Tehran uni 20 feb 2011 presence of riot forces in the street http://ur1.ca/3aydl #iran #nervousFeb 21 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Your blog post just hit Ars...Feb 21 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Of course they are missing the point and are being dicks by saying M$ is right and Apple should do the same thing. Fuckers.Feb 21 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ossington: Want to give students the gift of #libregraphicsmag ? Try a sponsored donation http://outl.ws/fVcYUAFeb 21 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity Launcher Will Support Icon Resizing! http://goo.gl/fBL7y !uFeb 21 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New anti-laser tech paves way for optical computing (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/ezS1meFeb 21 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #eidg livestreams alle mist ATM. Menno. Das haben die Ägypter besser hingekriegt!Feb 21 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Completely ran out of cash. Luckily my bank has still plenty and will kindly let me take some :-)Feb 21 14:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdDP7u4tZToFeb 21 14:32
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DaemonFCOpenSuse dependency hell strikes againFeb 21 14:34
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DaemonFCI see they haven't gotten any better about deciding which file goes with whose dependenciesFeb 21 14:34
_Goblinbonjour allFeb 21 14:35
DaemonFCit kept telling me something needed liborc but nothing provided liborc, so eventually I told it to go ahead and break the damned packageFeb 21 14:35
DaemonFCthen what do you know? installing liborcFeb 21 14:35
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: Facebook destainuie numarul tau de telefon http://bit.ly/gIM1hyFeb 21 14:36
DaemonFCaspirin came from Germany because they were expecting to invent Yast 100 years later and they wanted us to be preparedFeb 21 14:36
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_Goblinschestowitz: Hi mate.....Im still alive......(barely)....ready to record tonight if you are......still smelling paint fumes though..!Feb 21 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Wow..... No wonder. Ars is really lacking as far as balanced F/OSS coverage is concerned...Feb 21 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity Launcher Will Support Icon Resizing! http://bit.ly/dEyw4GFeb 21 14:44
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schestowitzMinceR: hey, _GoblinFeb 21 14:45
schestowitzoopsFeb 21 14:45
MinceR:DFeb 21 14:45
schestowitzSure, can record any timeFeb 21 14:45
oiaohmReally the gpl ban issue from iphone and wp7 could play out into a nice little mess.Feb 21 14:46
MinceRhow so?Feb 21 14:46
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_Goblinschestowitz: is Gordon with us tonight?Feb 21 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !Unity launcher icon size to be resizable? http://goo.gl/ix16wFeb 21 14:48
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amarsh04back in a fewFeb 21 14:48
DaemonFCzomgiconresizing!Feb 21 14:49
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DaemonFCtruly pioneering the GUIFeb 21 14:49
MinceR:>Feb 21 14:49
DaemonFCB-)Feb 21 14:49
DaemonFCI don't think anyone's ever had icon resizing beforeFeb 21 14:49
schestowitz_Goblin: he's not online now, I thinkFeb 21 14:49
DaemonFCit's not like you can do that with Windows 95Feb 21 14:49
DaemonFCI know back in the day, you wanted to resize an icon, you were just SOLFeb 21 14:50
DaemonFCbut Mark Shuttleworth came along and invented icon resizingFeb 21 14:50
DaemonFCjust so that schestowitz could resize his icons in glorious freedomFeb 21 14:51
_Goblinyeah nps,,,,,I'll be on all day......Feb 21 14:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: It was in the freedesktop icon spec of 2000Feb 21 14:51
DaemonFC8 x 8? 9x9? 16 x 16 evenFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFCgo crazyFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFCno it wasn'tFeb 21 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Windows #Phone Marketplace bans the #GPL, and the App Store should too http://goo.gl/9prm7 !gnuFeb 21 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: A step closer to Skynet? Pentagon wants fighting robots to talk to each other http://goo.gl/UsPg0Feb 21 14:51
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DaemonFCUbuntu invented itFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 14:51
oiaohmO yes it was.  DaemonFCFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFCnopeFeb 21 14:51
DaemonFCtotally newFeb 21 14:51
oiaohmBut the spec was for svg icons.Feb 21 14:51
oiaohmSo the icons could be scaled to anysize.Feb 21 14:52
oiaohmUbuntu one is a far more limited implementation.Feb 21 14:52
*DaemonFC wonders if oiaohm knows he's being flippantFeb 21 14:52
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 14:52
oiaohmI have not got to the punch line.Feb 21 14:52
DaemonFCicons don't have to be SVG to resize, but it does help them keep the proper scaleFeb 21 14:53
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oiaohmDaemonFC: It was removed as a requirement from the spec in 2003Feb 21 14:53
oiaohmBecause no one saw any point to it.Feb 21 14:53
DaemonFCthere's no standards with *nix, it's all basically just suggestionsFeb 21 14:53
oiaohmThere are standards.Feb 21 14:54
DaemonFCa standard works the same way twiceFeb 21 14:54
oiaohmYesFeb 21 14:54
oiaohmBut there is 1 problem.Feb 21 14:54
DaemonFCI don't think two different *nix systems have managed this in any way an end user would care aboutFeb 21 14:54
oiaohmPosix does work fairly well.Feb 21 14:55
DaemonFCif you have source code, maybe it will recompile somewhere else if you stick to some baseline featureset and assuming the other system doesn't have bugs Feb 21 14:55
oiaohmIssue is most of the standards stop before you get to real device access.Feb 21 14:55
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 14:55
oiaohmAlso 2002 Unix agreementFeb 21 14:55
oiaohmThat mandates support for a subset of Linux syscalls on all Unix's created after that date.Feb 21 14:56
DaemonFCI don't really think UNIX is leading the standards charge anymoreFeb 21 14:56
oiaohmReason for Linux Syscalls.Feb 21 14:56
DaemonFCa lot of the recent UNIX specs are just copying from Linux and glibc, etc.Feb 21 14:56
oiaohmNot some other unix or freebsdFeb 21 14:56
oiaohmIs Linux was the only one that had not changed it syscall numbers in the prior 10 yearsFeb 21 14:57
oiaohmEveryother Unix had been moving there syscalls around causing massive incompadiblity.Feb 21 14:57
DaemonFCif you want to say they set the standard by leaning over someone's shoulder and copying off their homework, then UNIX is the standard Feb 21 14:57
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 14:57
oiaohmEven between there own versions.Feb 21 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Canonical Disables Banshee's Donations to Gnome to Push Ubuntu One Store http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/canonical-disables-donations-to-gnome/Feb 21 14:58
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Is not coping other peoples work what creating standards is about.Feb 21 14:58
DaemonFCthe biggest disruption I can recall was the Native Posix Threading Library around 2.6.18Feb 21 14:58
oiaohmYou really don't want to try to invent something from scratch.Feb 21 14:58
DaemonFCthat ultimately was for the bestFeb 21 14:58
DaemonFCLinuxThreads was horribleFeb 21 14:58
DaemonFCin the short term it caused some applications to breakFeb 21 14:59
MinceR155240 < DaemonFC> there's no standards with *nix, it's all basically just suggestionsFeb 21 14:59
MinceRgood thing winblows is omg-standardizedFeb 21 14:59
MinceR:>Feb 21 14:59
DaemonFCMinceR, Windows is whatever one outfit says it isFeb 21 14:59
DaemonFCbut it is at least, thatFeb 21 14:59
MinceRexcept it isn'tFeb 21 14:59
MinceRit's whatever it turns out in that secondFeb 21 15:00
oiaohmGot version wrong.  DaemonFCFeb 21 15:00
MinceRs/out/& to be/Feb 21 15:00
DaemonFCyou're talking dictator v. anarchyFeb 21 15:00
oiaohm Native Posix Threading Library entered at 2.6.0 Officually.Feb 21 15:00
MinceRno, i'm talking engineering vs. blind hacking aboutFeb 21 15:00
oiaohmThere were proto patches for 2.4 Linux DaemonFCFeb 21 15:00
MinceRor engineering vs. monkeys at keyboardsFeb 21 15:00
oiaohmBefore that Linux kernel was basically thread dumb.Feb 21 15:00
MinceRm$ wouldn't know engineering if it hit them on the head.Feb 21 15:00
oiaohmReally DaemonFC you don't know MS.Feb 21 15:01
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MinceRas for unix standards, for the most part they workFeb 21 15:01
MinceRthey have to, because it's a heterogenous worldFeb 21 15:01
oiaohmThere are 4 different teams responsable for the mess MS OS's are.  DaemonFCFeb 21 15:02
DaemonFCMozilla says they're going to release FF 5,6, and 7 this yearFeb 21 15:02
DaemonFCthey better hurry or they'll have 9 out before 4Feb 21 15:02
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 15:02
oiaohmDaemonFC: Mozilla could always do a Historic one.Feb 21 15:02
MinceRmaybe they need to put the marketing department back in their placeFeb 21 15:02
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie completely skip a version.Feb 21 15:02
oiaohmDaemonFC: Netscape did a few times.Feb 21 15:02
DaemonFCyes, Microsoft doesn't trust their own programming teams with full access to Windows source codeFeb 21 15:03
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DaemonFCyet they hand it all over to China and Russia?Feb 21 15:03
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 15:03
MinceRi don't see whyFeb 21 15:03
oiaohmDaemonFC: then you have the adveritsing team.Feb 21 15:03
MinceRi mean, sure, seeing the winblows source code might cause sanity lossFeb 21 15:03
oiaohmDaemonFC: and the budget team.Feb 21 15:03
MinceRbut that surely doesn't matter to their own "programmers", does it?Feb 21 15:03
oiaohmDaemonFC: Hey it will take 2 million dollars todo this code right.Feb 21 15:03
oiaohmDaemonFC: Here is 100 thousand just get it out door.Feb 21 15:04
DaemonFClots of governments demand to see it, so Microsoft gives it to them on the condition they promise not to do anything illegal with itFeb 21 15:04
oiaohmDaemonFC:  Yes that is what has really happened a few times.Feb 21 15:04
DaemonFCthen it whoops, slips out to whoeverFeb 21 15:04
DaemonFCand I have an idea that's where some of the malware comes fromFeb 21 15:04
oiaohmDaemonFC: Linux development is not really anarchy.Feb 21 15:05
DaemonFCI've heard that the Russian mob is responsible for a lot of malwareFeb 21 15:05
DaemonFCsome Russian govt official probably got bought off to hand them Windows source codeFeb 21 15:05
oiaohmDaemonFC: Linus is not called a belevent dictator for no reason.   DaemonFCFeb 21 15:05
oiaohmDaemonFC:  MS biggest problem is there is no one really where the buck for a bad release lands.Feb 21 15:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: So MS windows development is AnarchyFeb 21 15:06
DaemonFCthey have too many managers divided up among essentially the same taskFeb 21 15:06
DaemonFCit's a common problem with bloated companiesFeb 21 15:07
oiaohmDaemonFC: Have you ever read the windows NT design document by cuttler.Feb 21 15:07
oiaohmDaemonFC: Nothing wrong with the design at all.Feb 21 15:07
DaemonFCDave Cutler was probably the only one on the Windows NT design team that knew what he was doingFeb 21 15:07
oiaohmHe was the design team.  DaemonFCFeb 21 15:08
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oiaohmHe formally designed it all.Feb 21 15:08
oiaohmProblem is its like having the perfect set of plans and builders who are crap.Feb 21 15:08
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DaemonFChe basically cloned a lot of it from VMS is what I've heardFeb 21 15:08
oiaohmHe also designed VMSFeb 21 15:08
MinceRhe designed VMS too, afaikFeb 21 15:08
MinceRNT is just take twoFeb 21 15:08
MinceRand afaik it's overcomplicatedFeb 21 15:09
oiaohmNT design guide has a lot of errors in VMS fixed.Feb 21 15:09
MinceRbut at least NT lets you switch shells :>Feb 21 15:09
DaemonFCVMS was hilarious, it gave you disk space in blocks freeFeb 21 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @quaid: Dear @ArsTechnica, distributing source is no mystery, Linux distros do it for 20K+ apps as signed packages. http://bit.ly/fOwZlpFeb 21 15:09
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DaemonFCOpenSuse 11.4 has no HALFeb 21 15:10
oiaohmNT was designed to run multiable OS's side by side on the same kernel DaemonFCFeb 21 15:10
MinceRtoo bad it succeeded at none :>Feb 21 15:10
oiaohmBut due to people not following the rules of subsystems Culter layed out.Feb 21 15:10
DaemonFCright, APIs as plug-insFeb 21 15:10
schestowitz_Goblin: can you record now?Feb 21 15:10
DaemonFCbrilliant idea, they just never really used itFeb 21 15:10
MinceRit was also intended to be microkernel, wasn't it? :>Feb 21 15:11
MinceRthen m$ happened to itFeb 21 15:11
oiaohmFirst drafts are microkernel.Feb 21 15:11
DaemonFCtechnically you could run win32, posix, os/2, etc programs side by sideFeb 21 15:11
DaemonFCwithin the same kernelFeb 21 15:11
oiaohmBut cutler decided aginast that in final drafts.Feb 21 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RD @Fake_PMLee: A good Budget is when everyone gets something back from what the Govt has already taken from you. #SGBudget #fbFeb 21 15:11
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oiaohmMinceR:  Ie back then the performance cust of a microkernel was going to be too high.Feb 21 15:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: Yes any OS you want side by side even faking different OS syscalls were included.Feb 21 15:12
DaemonFCwell, Windows 7 has user mode device drivers, but the support for kernel mode drivers for sound and video are still thereFeb 21 15:12
oiaohmDaemonFC: The big stuff up was the guy who designed the printing stack.Feb 21 15:12
MinceRDaemonFC: well, they failed at posix and the others are just all the same shit (dos with some bells and whistles)Feb 21 15:12
DaemonFCyou can use XP drivers, but it means limited functionality and if the driver crashes, you'll get a BSODFeb 21 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RD @Fake_PMLee We scrapped the TV & License Fee because no one should have to pay for PointofEntry. #fbFeb 21 15:13
DaemonFCI have to wonder how many driver crashes Windows covers up nowFeb 21 15:13
oiaohmMinceR: They mostly failed with posix because posix subystem end up calling win32Feb 21 15:13
DaemonFCit could crash and respawn the sound driver and the user wouldn't noticeFeb 21 15:13
oiaohmMinceR: Ie calling between subsystems by culters design was forbin.Feb 21 15:13
DaemonFCand with video, all you get is your screen blinking for a secondFeb 21 15:13
MinceRand because their design lacked dozens of posix features? :>Feb 21 15:13
oiaohmMinceR: He knew it would mess stuff up.Feb 21 15:13
oiaohmMinceR: When you try to map posix into win32 it don't turn out right.Feb 21 15:14
MinceRhm, calling between subsystems being forbidden means you get no GUI for all subsystems but one right from the startFeb 21 15:14
DaemonFCMinceR, NTFS has support for POSIX file naming convention, ACLs and suchFeb 21 15:14
MinceRDaemonFC: but not for deleting open filesFeb 21 15:14
MinceRand NT ACLs are patheticFeb 21 15:15
DaemonFCyou can use characters in a file on NTFS that are totally legal but they might cause a Windows program to crash when it tries to read themFeb 21 15:15
MinceRdeny takes preferenceFeb 21 15:15
MinceRs/fer/ced/Feb 21 15:15
oiaohmGUI was ment to be a job handled by ntdll.dll What was the subsystem interface to kernel.   GUI was not intergrated into kernel for just performance reasons.  MinceRFeb 21 15:15
MinceRwinblows programs crashing isn't exactly new or surprisingFeb 21 15:15
MinceRoiaohm: typical fucked up m$ design, as usualFeb 21 15:16
oiaohmGUI support was in NT kernel to handle mult subsystem.Feb 21 15:16
MinceR"let's just stuff it all into the kernel, i mean what could go wrong?"Feb 21 15:16
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oiaohmCulter had a valid reason.  MinceRFeb 21 15:16
oiaohmNote that Linux is doing it today for the same reasons MinceRFeb 21 15:16
MinceRi'm sure he rationalized everything :>Feb 21 15:16
MinceRLinux isn't doing GUI in kernelFeb 21 15:16
MinceRit's doing video drivers in kernel, and not even all of thatFeb 21 15:17
DaemonFCMinceR, lots of IIS is in the kernelFeb 21 15:17
oiaohmVideo card memory management.Feb 21 15:17
DaemonFCit's why IIS outperforms Apache, but it opens the system up to more severe security vulnerabilitiesFeb 21 15:17
MinceRDaemonFC: nginx, tuxFeb 21 15:17
oiaohmDaemonFC: Really strange thing is Apache out performs IIS in a lot of cases.Feb 21 15:17
oiaohmDaemonFC:  because IIS is crap internal.Feb 21 15:18
MinceRoiaohm: same thing as userspace X being faster than NT GUI in kernel :>Feb 21 15:18
oiaohmDaemonFC: Have you ever seen the lock graphic of IIS.Feb 21 15:18
DaemonFCon Windows, Apache is at a disadvantage because IIS is accelerated by partially running in kernel spaceFeb 21 15:18
DaemonFCand because the file system is crapFeb 21 15:18
DaemonFCbut that gets both of them :)Feb 21 15:18
oiaohmApache is disadvantaged on windows for many reasons.Feb 21 15:18
MinceRif someone wants performance but handicaps apache with winblows, they deserve what they getFeb 21 15:19
DaemonFCI used to run apache on Windows 2000Feb 21 15:19
oiaohmEven some tests Apache on windows still beats IISFeb 21 15:19
DaemonFC*shrug* :DFeb 21 15:19
oiaohmLinux does better file caching in memory than WindowsFeb 21 15:19
oiaohmOk all Unix/Linux/BSD do.Feb 21 15:20
oiaohmIIS gets around this by running its own internal file cache.Feb 21 15:20
oiaohmIn memory.Feb 21 15:20
DaemonFCI was using Windows 2000 because the only thing I could get Linux to do on that system is crashFeb 21 15:20
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 15:20
DaemonFCbut Linux was crap back then and the hardware was even scarierFeb 21 15:20
MinceRcould be a hardware and/or driver issueFeb 21 15:21
DaemonFCno networking, sound, printer, vesa videoFeb 21 15:22
DaemonFChappy time :DFeb 21 15:22
DaemonFCI had a system that did run Mandrake well at that timeFeb 21 15:22
DaemonFCbut it wasn't the dual Pentium 3 systemFeb 21 15:23
DaemonFC:(Feb 21 15:23
oiaohmDaemonFC:  Linux has had many kernel space accelerators for appache.Feb 21 15:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: Most have turned out to be worthless.  Just fix the performance issues in the network stack.Feb 21 15:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: and most of the gains of kernel space acceleration go by by.Feb 21 15:23
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oiaohmhttp://www.varnish-cache.org/  Of course this on top never hurts.  DaemonFCFeb 21 15:25
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DaemonFCquality of service, still makes me cringe because I think of the way XP does itFeb 21 15:25
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 15:25
DaemonFCin otherwords, if you're on XP, turn it off :)Feb 21 15:25
DaemonFCfifo is actually betterFeb 21 15:25
oiaohmDependsFeb 21 15:26
oiaohmIf you go into settings and tell XP its a server or not.Feb 21 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @harishpillay: What happens when good hardware runs bad software - http://twitpic.com/l6s8y < ROTFL! Connocting Poopie :-)Feb 21 15:26
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oiaohmStrangly go into XP and set server mode and quality of serives uses a method that works.   DaemonFCFeb 21 15:26
MinceRit's not a server, it's a toy :>Feb 21 15:27
oiaohmI know.Feb 21 15:27
oiaohmBut it fixed the QoS issues.Feb 21 15:28
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oiaohmYet exposed about 20 others.Feb 21 15:28
oiaohmIncluding some anti-virus software refusing to install.Feb 21 15:28
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MinceRand how many problems did it cause? :>Feb 21 15:29
oiaohmEnough to be make life hell.Feb 21 15:29
oiaohmNote not all drivers were server mode compadible.Feb 21 15:30
oiaohmEven the ones provided on the XP disk.  MinceRFeb 21 15:30
MinceR:>Feb 21 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to shoot some irradiated zombies in Fallout now. I promise not to discriminate based on gender *or* age...Feb 21 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @barbiesnow: #egypt be cautious of the support you receive for your transition to democracy..US heading toward #teaparty plutocracyFeb 21 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Easy, powerful, stable: Pick two with OpenShot 1.3 http://lwn.net/Articles/429039/rssFeb 21 16:44
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MinceR"i'm an equal opportunity lunatic. i kill races equally.Feb 21 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @p2pnet: #Libya n embassy staff quit in #Stockholm. 'We find the situation intolerable' http://is.gd/2NKJRRFeb 21 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICE Finally Admits It Totally Screwed Up; Next Time, Perhaps It'll Try Due Process - http://bit.ly/gWnSVS can you say clod-hopping?Feb 21 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ICE Finally Admits It Totally Screwed Up; Next Time, Perhaps It'll Try Due Process | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.7 KBFeb 21 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @sychojoe: @MMFlint It's both touching & depressing that Egyptians feel the need 2 support Americans fighting 4 their basic freedoms.Feb 21 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is there any way of following !RSS feeds via !XMPP? Sounds like a #Quora question but I'm serious. I'd really like to knowFeb 21 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reuters: UK Hague: some information #Gaddafi on way to #Venezuela: BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Foreign Secretary http://bit.ly/glhl2xFeb 21 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Novell Keeps Amassing More Software Patents, Feeding a Rogue System http://ur1.ca/3azl6 #cptn #microsoft #attachmsftFeb 21 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Patents are a good thing" - http://bit.ly/gu8fPN er, no, actually: http://bit.ly/nN0Id #swpatsFeb 21 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open systems towards improving NHS IT - http://bit.ly/eU23lA long overdue #healthcare #opennessFeb 21 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] #Stallman giving a speech in Cambridge in the William Gates Building on March 1. Anyone else sees the irony? http://bit.ly/eXk7kOFeb 21 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the casting for Taming of the Shrew. !BUSCFeb 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] jobs posting - python django developer needed by kenneth-gonsalves {go for it} http://ur1.ca/3azooFeb 21 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BREIN Uses Court Win As Leverage To Wipe Out Usenet Sites - http://bit.ly/i5KxGT nasty work... #nlFeb 21 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @majestyx: Dutch ISP #XS4ALL set up an Internet dial-up service for #Libya. Modem to dial +31205350535 username: xs4all password: xs4allFeb 21 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not to me confused with the 60's alt version "the taming of the shroom"Feb 21 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] There Will Never Be A Shortage Of “Content” - http://bit.ly/fUNSnw exactly - nor of inventions; which is why we don't need (c) or patentsFeb 21 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @glynmoody ICE Finally Admits It Totally Screwed Up; Next Time, Perhaps It'll Try Due Process - http://bit.ly/gWnSVS can you say clod ...Feb 21 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: thr'll nevr B A Shortage Of “Content” http://bit.ly/fUNSnw nor of inventions; which is y we dont need (c) or #patentsFeb 21 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An open source approach to Veterans Affairs medical info - http://bit.ly/glqhxF "openly architected, modular, and standards-based platform"Feb 21 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Planet could be 'unrecognizable' by 2050, experts say http://ur1.ca/3ay4e #environment #populationcontrolFeb 21 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @brainpicker: A Tale of Two Twins – #Einstein’s twin paradox, simplified in a lovely animated short #film http://bit.ly/emCPrcFeb 21 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @Zeinobia: SO the whole world is watching when thousands are being killed coz of the oil , fuck the oil !!Feb 21 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @royhugo: Washington défend l’Internet libre…mais sous surveillance http://is.gd/LhXobTFeb 21 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: "Patents are a good thing" - http://bit.ly/gu8fPN er, no, actually: http://bit.ly/nN0Id #swpatsFeb 21 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @rms Defeat by Sea Shepherd http://ur1.ca/3azwdFeb 21 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Intel sends 'Poulson' Itaniums to the shrink http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/20/intel_poulson_itanium_isscc/Feb 21 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Spiders are ridiculously high. I wonder why. Am I now able to determine which articles got what traffic? How can I do that?Feb 21 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad News: Get an overview of what we’re doing http://goo.gl/uTWZFFeb 21 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @lxnews: woo-hoo! It's been a long-time coming !guileFeb 21 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @lxnews: GNU Guile 2.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/02/21/gnu-guile-2-0-released/ !scheme !guileFeb 21 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] That GPL is by design incompatible with appstores is a hoax. It's the appstores that are designed to be incompatible with certain freedomsFeb 21 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @carlopiana That GPL is by design incompatible with appstores is a hoax. It's the appstores that are designed to be incompatible with ...Feb 21 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] How much do phone makers pay for Windows Phone 7? http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/02/16/how-much-do-phone-makers-pay-windows-phone-7/Feb 21 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Novos Intel Itanium Poulson http://ur1.ca/3b04yFeb 21 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] latest cable from Guatemalan embassy about Guatemala/Mexico border issues (december 2004) http://rod.gs/wl05 !wikileaksFeb 21 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] How to Talk About #CitizensUnited http://ur1.ca/3b00d #goodbye #democracyFeb 21 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @gnufreex Semiaccurate has flash adds from hell. To save people a reading and gnash crash, they say Microsoft is paying vendors to use WP7.Feb 21 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: wikileaks.ch is presently experiencing difficulties. Try http://wikileaks.de instead http://bit.ly/gmVwiLFeb 21 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New cables for Colombia, Chile, Guatemala, Mexico, Argentina http://wikileaks.se/reldate/2011-02-20_0.html http://bit.ly/eAhBBNFeb 21 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Your andronified avatar looks like one of the Hairy Bikers :)Feb 21 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera Hairy Biker sounds like a badly typed copy of Harry Potter, by someone who doesn't speak English too good ;)Feb 21 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera I just heard of the app on !lo, it was my first attempt, didn't spend that much time on itFeb 21 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb I had a look at it (app), it looks fun.Feb 21 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Want to know why everyone hearts Apache these days? @danablankenron - Tips for an open source process | http://bit.ly/gbGUwuFeb 21 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/429057/rssFeb 21 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Launchpad-Getkeys Gets Proxy Support [Automatically Import All Missing GPG Keys With One Command] http://bit.ly/fOFOkWFeb 21 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Libya air force defectors claim they were ordered to bomb protestersFeb 21 19:18
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MinceRhttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1506.htmlFeb 21 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Tolkien Estate In Legal Spat With Author Of Historical Fiction; Will #Publicity Rights Kill Off Historical Fiction? - http://bit.ly/fvgNZdFeb 21 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] It seems I was right here http://ur1.ca/3b0c8 Microsoft boosters are writting GPL-bashing articles: http://ur1.ca/3b0bxFeb 21 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] This week is Graphics Test Week http://lwn.net/Articles/429078/rssFeb 21 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microfinance guru Muhammad Yunus faces removal from Grameen Bank - http://bit.ly/fkIu55 anyone have any insight into what's really going on?Feb 21 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Italy condemns violence violence and repression in Lybia. Better late than never. How many people have died? :-/Feb 21 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @gnufreex Ha, "Apple Should ban GPL'ed software too". No, we should BAN Apple and M$ from GPL'ed software, bunch of vulturesFeb 21 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @agentsmith I don't mind devs choosing which licence to use, but banning an app because they choose a licence the app store owners wouldn't?Feb 21 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 103 dents!Feb 21 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Viel schlimmer als das #Googleberg da abgegeben hat ist die Tatsache das 3 Gutacher der Uni Bayreuth ein Summa Cum Laude befürwortet haben.Feb 21 19:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/39738694298636288 LOLFeb 21 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: @schestowitz @themadhatter ... People aren't allowed to disagree with reality :) <--the battlecry of #socialist tools #nwo #conspiracyFeb 21 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah they are a forced to be reckoned with :-)Feb 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah they are a force to be reckoned with :-)Feb 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: 'We have no desire to dominate,no ambitions of empire. Our aim is..a peace founded upon the dignity&rights...' #GWB SOU 2004Feb 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Dima_Khatib The 2 Libyan fighter jets that landed in Malta turned out to be of two pilots who have defected, refused to bomb their peopleFeb 21 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: RT @ishtarmuz 2 Libyan fighter jets in #Malta: pilots defected,refused to bomb //true HEROISM, Y didn't this happen over #iraq?Feb 21 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 wouldn't have happened over Iraq because there is nowhere for the pilots to escape /to/. The US is universal (c.f. Bobby Fischer).Feb 21 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @NixiePixel: To err is human… to really mess up requires root. =/Feb 21 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir: I sure hope that the ruins at Leptis Magna are secured. Some of the best-preserved Roman ruins in the world are in Libya.Feb 21 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Wow, i just found the Power Rangers theme song in my music library, that brings back memories.Feb 21 20:01
schestowitz_Goblin: uploading files nowFeb 21 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Tell us what type of event session is most appealing to you. Vote now: http://bit.ly/eJ3NEgFeb 21 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Unwritten Law - Blame It On MeFeb 21 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 21 Feb 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900Feb 21 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if Ford called their budget cars Escorts so even the chavs could afford an escortFeb 21 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz US *aspires* 2 universality - pretty speeches notwithstanding. Doesn't mean it will be achieved or allowed, or is even possibleFeb 21 20:06
_Goblinschestowitz: cool....I had to get out of room....it stinks of paint stillFeb 21 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rbonifaz/@rbonifaz] Ahora diario Colombiano tiene acceso a los cables de !wikileaks http://bonifaz.ec/24 Cuando un medio de !Ecuador hará lo mismo?Feb 21 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: Școala de vară „Informatica la Castel”, ediția 2011 - Software Liber http://is.gd/RkR63B ROG RT ! :Feb 21 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Is the HTC Flyer completely unique or a generation too late? http://goo.gl/YQMtm !androidFeb 21 20:28
schestowitzThe upload is taking ages today... also very large filesFeb 21 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[soloojos/@soloojos] ♻ @wikileaks: New cables for Colombia, !Chile, Guatemala, Mexico, Argentina http://wikileaks.se/reldate/2011-02-20_0.html !wlFeb 21 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @SciTri: Louisiana sues GSK for fraud over diabetes pill #Avandia. http://bit.ly/g6eBW8 #SITTFeb 21 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @escapetofreedom: Honeycomb, HTC Desire http://bit.ly/gTED69 http://twitpic.com/42bvsyFeb 21 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @notriddle: ♻ @aurele The #LibreOffice Challenge to become a Foundation :: http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/ !ftk !fs !loFeb 21 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @josemaria: 5 Best #Linux Distribution With No Proprietary Components: http://is.gd/Ufq6VCFeb 21 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @StefaMedia: RT: @EmilDragota: Motorola Atrix sau ce mai ştie să facă un smartphone în 2011! http://goo.gl/fb/1qYnt #peblogFeb 21 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Best #Linux Distribution With No Proprietary Components http://ur1.ca/3b1f6 #gnuFeb 21 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian 6: First Impressions http://ur1.ca/3b1fg #gnu #linuxFeb 21 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xfce 4.8 Desktop Environment http://ur1.ca/3b1gl #gnu #linux #desktopFeb 21 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Căutăm mai ales ÎNCEPĂTORI în #Linux http://is.gd/K66adN #gnu #romania vezi și http://proinfo.uvvg.roFeb 21 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing #Debian #GNU #Linux 6.0 http://ur1.ca/3b1gr "My first reaction to Debian's latest was one of disappointment." :-(Feb 21 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A 3G-capable, Linux powered computer…in your car’s dashboard? http://ur1.ca/3ayko #linux #automobileFeb 21 21:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/39776442841567232Feb 21 21:15
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz A hero would have done it anyway. Is my point.Feb 21 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20 New User Misconceptions about #GNU Linux http://ur1.ca/3b1i2Feb 21 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 only the most indoctrinated are fit to fly over Baghdad ;-)Feb 21 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz @glynmoody This year, 29 aug-3 sept http://tinyurl.com/6bd3ee7 Seeking GNU/Linux BEGINNERS & donors Please RT! Thanks! #fossFeb 21 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice the last word in open source software http://ur1.ca/3b1ic #scoracle #odfFeb 21 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian 6: Have your Debian and eat your Ubuntu too http://ur1.ca/3b1ij #ubuntu #gnu #linux #debian #freedomFeb 21 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #LibreOffice the last word in open source software http://ur1.ca/3b1ic #scoracle #odfFeb 21 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: A 3G-capable, Linux powered computer…in your car’s dashboard? http://ur1.ca/3ayko #linux #automobileFeb 21 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice the last word in open source software |  The Australian .::. Size~: 51.74 KBFeb 21 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian 6: Have your Debian and eat your Ubuntu too • The Register .::. Size~: 23.57 KBFeb 21 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice the last word in open source software |  The Australian .::. Size~: 51.74 KBFeb 21 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A 3G-capable, Linux powered computer…in your car’s dashboard? .::. Size~: 91.3 KBFeb 21 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: 20 New User Misconceptions about #GNU Linux http://ur1.ca/3b1i2Feb 21 21:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 New User Misconceptions about Linux — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 66.36 KBFeb 21 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: you televise the revolution you have, not the revolution you wantFeb 21 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @cyrenaican: #LIBYA IS NOT HEADED TO A CIVIL WAR, THEY ARE UNITED AGAINST COMMON ENEMY, ARE FIGHTING FOREIGN MERCENARIES, ARMY W/ THE PPLFeb 21 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: The toppling tyrants are getting less and less likeable. But stage by stage we get closer to the Boss tyrant.Feb 21 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @SultanAlQuassemi Al Manar: Eyewitnesses: Gaddafi regime elements stop citizens in Tripoli from donating blood to the injured protestersFeb 21 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] This year, 29 aug-3 sept http://tinyurl.com/6bd3ee7 Seeking !Linux BEGINNERS & donors Please RT! Thanks! !fedora !ubuntu !gnu #free #openFeb 21 21:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Translate .::. Size~: 0.9 KBFeb 21 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Debian 6: Have your Debian and eat your Ubuntu too http://ur1.ca/3b1ij #ubuntu #gnu #linux #debian #freedomFeb 21 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Xfce 4.8 Desktop Environment http://ur1.ca/3b1gl #gnu #linux #desktopFeb 21 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian 6: Have your Debian and eat your Ubuntu too • The Register .::. Size~: 23.57 KBFeb 21 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xfce 4.8 Desktop Environment | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 53.36 KBFeb 21 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: 20 New User Misconceptions about #GNU Linux http://ur1.ca/3b1i2Feb 21 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 New User Misconceptions about Linux — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 66.36 KBFeb 21 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazing photos of vanishing forests http://bit.ly/ez3ylM via Sue Blue on Google BuzzFeb 21 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 Most Endangered Forests on Earth | Antalik - Strange,funny and animals stuff from around the world. .::. Size~: 45.49 KBFeb 21 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @bananabob: " #BBC News - Study shows Welsh #sheep 'more clever than thought'" !nature http://bbc.in/gQU5fVFeb 21 21:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Study shows Welsh sheep 'more clever than thought' .::. Size~: 58.19 KBFeb 21 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dear Green Activists, will you please start to take file formats seriously? http://ur1.ca/3b1tt #wwf not the only green activism group. #drmFeb 21 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb love the new avatar!Feb 21 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dear Green Activists, will you please start to take file formats seriously? | Stop .::. Size~: 38.35 KBFeb 21 21:59
schestowitz_Goblin: it's readyFeb 21 22:04
schestowitzBut...Feb 21 22:04
schestowitzThe techrights server is under heavy loadFeb 21 22:04
_Goblincool...Feb 21 22:04
_GoblinIm doing the show notes now...Feb 21 22:04
_Goblinnearly finished...Feb 21 22:04
schestowitzSo if I push this out now, then the downloads will be slow and may hinder pages being delivered, so I've been waiting a while for load to come downFeb 21 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] [NHI]330's blog: I competed in the 2011 Indiana Martial Arts Challenge http://bit.ly/fpvPtCFeb 21 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz it's androidify.com I think, an android app; my first quick attempt. We should do that for the TechBytes site as the cohostsFeb 21 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I competed in the 2011 Indiana Martial Arts Challenge « Free Your Software/Culture and the Rest Will Follow .::. Size~: 75.81 KBFeb 21 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb yeah, I figured. @fabsh did a while family of those, with @bkuhn at al too :-)Feb 21 22:06
schestowitz_Goblin: if you want to review something very different: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/02/bodhi-linux-rc2-updates.htmlFeb 21 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Bodhi Linux RC2 & Updates .::. Size~: 86.77 KBFeb 21 22:06
schestowitzload average: 1.71, 2.00, 2.20 < still too high to link to 100 MB of audio.Feb 21 22:07
_Goblincool...i;ll take a lookFeb 21 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Notes from the Fedora board - SQLninja is back in http://lwn.net/Articles/429096/rssFeb 21 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes from the Fedora board - SQLninja is back in [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.84 KBFeb 21 22:09
gnufreexMore WIndows servers are going to get ninja'd Feb 21 22:10
_Goblinright......shownotes readyFeb 21 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DNA Structure Animation in HTML5 http://ur1.ca/3b1wc #html fantasticFeb 21 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DNA Structure Animation in HTML5 | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 44.76 KBFeb 21 22:11
schestowitzI worry that if I post it now, then people will fail to download and give upFeb 21 22:11
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive published the show notes and I'll add the link when you give me yours... http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-32-%E2%80%93-210211/Feb 21 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 32 – 21/02/11 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 34.71 KBFeb 21 22:12
schestowitzThis never happened before (high load like this before techbytes release), we had a traffic surge recentlyFeb 21 22:12
schestowitzAny show noted for last ep?Feb 21 22:12
_Goblinthere will be.....half completed...Feb 21 22:13
_Goblinnever managed to finishFeb 21 22:13
_GoblinFor completness I will update themFeb 21 22:13
_Goblinjust wanted to do todays and give back up to dateFeb 21 22:13
_Goblin*getFeb 21 22:13
MinceRgnFeb 21 22:13
schestowitzBTW: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTExNgFeb 21 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Fluxbox 1.3 Released .::. Size~: 16.01 KBFeb 21 22:14
schestowitz _Goblin: you'll see what I typed in...Feb 21 22:14
schestowitzSomething about busy schedulesFeb 21 22:15
schestowitzI hope people do no get the (false) impression we lost interest in the show just because it's released less oftenFeb 21 22:15
schestowitzIf it were up to me, we'd record any day...Feb 21 22:15
_GoblinI hope so tooFeb 21 22:15
_Goblinprobably my fault, its just my family commitments have been demanding these last weeksFeb 21 22:16
_Goblinmaybe we should agree a regular sun or monday then any day extra we are all aroundFeb 21 22:16
schestowitzI can do any day almostFeb 21 22:17
schestowitzExcept when I'm at workFeb 21 22:17
schestowitzVery soon I'll do all my work from home, I hopeFeb 21 22:17
_GoblinI should keep you up to date with my timetable...that way we can better planFeb 21 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microfinance guru Muhammad Yunus faces removal from Grameen Bank - http://bit.ly/fkIu55 anyone have any insight into what's really going on?Feb 21 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Canada Bullying The European Union Over #Tar Sands, Threatening To Scuttle Trade Agreement - http://bit.ly/ghEBAW dirty & bullying: niceFeb 21 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Microfinance guru Muhammad Yunus faces removal from Grameen Bank | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 94.86 KBFeb 21 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tim Scolnick | Canada Bullying The European Union Over Tar Sands, Threatening To Scuttle Trade Agreement .::. Size~: 40.41 KBFeb 21 22:18
schestowitzyes, use identica, it's instantFeb 21 22:18
schestowitzAlso accessible from your mobileFeb 21 22:18
_Goblinthis week Im around: Tues (5pm onwards) and thurs (5pm onwards) and of course around Sat/Sun.Feb 21 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3 Reasons why #Linux is the platform for education? http://ur1.ca/3b1xqFeb 21 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: #Canada Bullying The European Union Over #Tar Sands, Threatening To Scuttle Trade Agreement - http://bit.ly/ghEBAWFeb 21 22:19
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tim Scolnick | Canada Bullying The European Union Over Tar Sands, Threatening To Scuttle Trade Agreement .::. Size~: 40.41 KBFeb 21 22:20
FaitherWhatFeb 21 22:20
_Goblinschestowitz: if you will ping me when you post the show.....Im off downstairs to get away from the fumes and play GT5Feb 21 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @razvansandu This year, 29 aug-3 sept http://tinyurl.com/6bd3ee7 Seeking GNU/Linux BEGINNERS & donors #foss #romaniaFeb 21 22:21
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_Goblinmy notes are already up ready for you to link to.Feb 21 22:21
schestowitz_Goblin: server load is coming down nowFeb 21 22:21
schestowitzI'll post the show in a momentFeb 21 22:21
Faither's your take on the statements of countries of those ongoing protests/wars in contrast to 'normal wars' like iraqFeb 21 22:22
Faitherit kind of lags behind don't you think?Feb 21 22:22
schestowitzHehFeb 21 22:22
schestowitz"Normal wars"Feb 21 22:22
schestowitzNormalising wars ;-)Feb 21 22:22
Faitherwell... 'normally' you hear an outscream from every country around the worldFeb 21 22:23
Faitherquite different the past few weeks imoFeb 21 22:24
FaitherCountries offering help like medical supplies or foodFeb 21 22:24
Faitheryou don't hear anything about this kind of things going onFeb 21 22:24
Faitherthese^Feb 21 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Guy leaves Microsoft Corp. (Keith), pretends to have fallen in love with Linux, then promotes Mono, now slams Java... http://ur1.ca/3b1zlFeb 21 22:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Java Mess « keithcu.com .::. Size~: 61.2 KBFeb 21 22:26
schestowitzFaither: yes, it's rather crazyFeb 21 22:26
schestowitzI don't trust the US on this, not by a long shot...Feb 21 22:26
schestowitzI trust China as much :-)Feb 21 22:27
FaitherxDFeb 21 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who worked for Microsoft and then come to Linux usually try to adjust #Linux to them rather than adjust to Linux. #mono #entryismFeb 21 22:28
FaitherI don't trust a country who claims freedom of speech is one of their core freedoms but then clobber citizens who try to make use of this right eitherFeb 21 22:29
schestowitzFreedom of speech was never realFeb 21 22:31
schestowitzOr the right to protestFeb 21 22:31
schestowitzit's acceptable as long as you're not too effectiveFeb 21 22:31
schestowitzOr if you don't cross certain lines, sometimes literallyFeb 21 22:31
schestowitzIt's like when companies say "unlimited bandwidth"Feb 21 22:31
schestowitzThey don't mean that, but they assume you won't go past one tera/weekFeb 21 22:32
FaitherI like "unlimited bandwidth" ^^Feb 21 22:32
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schestowitz99.99% will never need to find out the very secret quota/barrierFeb 21 22:33
schestowitztessier: my IP seems to have been blocked :-oFeb 21 22:34
schestowitzRequested too many pages at onceFeb 21 22:35
FaitherxDFeb 21 22:35
Faitheruse tor might be a bit slower but if you are accessing so many different locations at once I think speed won't matterFeb 21 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20/02/2011 -- SMS version 1.5.6 Released! http://ur1.ca/3b22c Superb Mini Server version 1.5.6 released (Linux kernel 2.6.35.11)Feb 21 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] 2Libyan fighter pilots defect to Malta, refusing to fire on protesters #Libya http://reut.rs/fXP1TpFeb 21 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Cellular Offering #Android Deals, Including “Buy-One-Get-Five” - http://bit.ly/ftNlOo can't see this happening with #iPhones...Feb 21 22:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:        Two Libyan fighter pilots defect, fly to Malta | Reuters  .::. Size~: 71.05 KBFeb 21 22:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Cellular Offering Android Deals, Including “Buy-One-Get-Five” › AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 36.46 KBFeb 21 22:39
Faithermy isp also seems to try to "block" as certain dns records are misertiously missing - nothing opendns wouldn't fix though ^^Feb 21 22:40
Faitheromg i need another english class! xDFeb 21 22:41
schestowitzI tried vpn..Feb 21 22:49
schestowitzI think that iptables or something is too sensitiveFeb 21 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xange 2011.02 (formerly Vixta) is out http://openxange.com/ #gnu #linuxFeb 21 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Do #Scientologists have "Secret Scientologist" versions of "Secret Santa", where they pick someone to stalk from a pool of tickets?Feb 21 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Xange | Linux Technology! .::. Size~: 18.15 KBFeb 21 22:50
schestowitzhttp://parlementum.net/notice/103334Feb 21 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charles Roth (encyclomundi)'s status on Monday, 21-Feb-11 09:20:34 PST - Parlementum - an EncycloMundi project .::. Size~: 9.74 KBFeb 21 22:53
schestowitzNice status.net deploymentFeb 21 22:53
Faitherlooking niceFeb 21 22:54
Faither-.-Feb 21 22:55
Faitheri don't make a lot of sense atm, do I? ^^Feb 21 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @SultanAlQassemi @ioerror Al Jazeera: Statement by Libyan Military Officers asks Libyan army to head to Tripoli & remove Gaddafi #LibyaFeb 21 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] New Danish blogpost !RedHat have you lost your mind with your new subscription model, and your CPU counting shit? http://tinyurl.com/4v9gvbuFeb 21 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Potty as scientology is, it is more believable than mainstream Christianity. That is what is really scary.Feb 21 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat hvad er det lige der er sker for jer, er i ude på at skramme folk væk og over på Oracle’s unfakeable Linux? «  Dennis Appelon Nielsen 's blog .::. Size~: 27.8 KBFeb 21 22:56
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schestowitztessier: ping..Feb 21 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Looming Assault on UW-Madison http://ur1.ca/3b26q greed puts education at risk again. Billionaires also want the schools.Feb 21 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Looming Assault on UW-Madison | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 66.87 KBFeb 21 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !CrunchBang Linux Reviewed at IDG http://ping.fm/eVQxnFeb 21 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CrunchBang Linux ( - Software - Operating systems, non-Windows ) .::. Size~: 37.13 KBFeb 21 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The AP does a poor job reporting http://ur1.ca/3b281 (Who Is Writing the AP's Headlines on the Protests -- the GOP?). No wonder AP is dying.Feb 21 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who Is Writing the AP's Headlines on the Protests -- the GOP? | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 53.19 KBFeb 21 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from Taming of the Shrew auditions. Did some Vincentio. Tomorrow I'll do a drunken hobo, I think.... :) !buscFeb 21 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, off to bed now....Feb 21 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya crisis: what role do tribal loyalties play? http://is.gd/mExXxpFeb 21 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Libya crisis: what role do tribal loyalties play?  .::. Size~: 69.83 KBFeb 21 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Jon Stewart is playing Angry Birds with dead birds and a catapult in the studio.Feb 21 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "You have now successfully [...] blacklisted some Class C address ranges of microsoft.com." http://ur1.ca/3b2ba #fedora #iptablesFeb 21 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iptables Howto — Fedora Unity Project .::. Size~: 53.43 KBFeb 21 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Discussion on Newsnight tomorrow "Do newspapers have any future?"Feb 21 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I bet all the Libyan diplomats with really rubbish postings do not defect.Feb 21 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa Receives MESA_multithread_makecurrent: The Mesa code-base now has patches for supporting the new MESA_multi... http://bit.ly/fxs5YRFeb 21 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mesa Receives MESA_multithread_makecurrent .::. Size~: 17.65 KBFeb 21 23:31
tessierschestowitz: Ok, just a sec...Feb 21 23:33
FaithergnFeb 21 23:35
tessierschestowitz: Try now...Feb 21 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Well I just tried to add you @whirli so we'll see how it goesFeb 21 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I watched the documentary film #Restrepo today. Intense. Highly recommended. http://ur1.ca/3b2vlFeb 21 23:49
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