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| sebpclos | schestowitz: oh yeah and here as well, when comes to the host name | Mar 05 00:45 |
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| sebpclos | I don't want in logs for both channels :) | Mar 05 00:45 |
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| sebsebseb | That's better this name | Mar 05 02:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RealHPT/statuses/43851691577196545 | Mar 05 05:12 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: OK | Mar 05 05:13 |
| schestowitz | virgin - will remove host | Mar 05 05:13 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: ha! | Mar 05 05:14 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66134145 | Mar 05 05:15 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66134208 | Mar 05 05:15 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-sc running phIRCe v0.53 | Mar 05 05:16 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RealHPT/statuses/43851691577196545 | Mar 05 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 38.33 KB | Mar 05 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @RealHPT: @ml2mst Thanks, that's good to know, Marti although I must admit that Roy Schestowitz is a big man, in spite of the COLA troll's whines, LOL | Mar 05 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66134145 https://identi.ca/notice/66134208 | Mar 05 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 03:25:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I think you are my main source of news | Mar 05 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 03:26:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @fontana Definitely, it's circleoftrust etc, only the news you want reaches you | Mar 05 05:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:26] <sebpclos> schestowitz: Can you remove my host name from the log, before all this ends up on Google or very soon after? Thanks | Mar 05 05:19 |
| schestowitz | I see... no problem | Mar 05 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: this morning | Mar 05 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | I mean afternoon | Mar 05 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | when it re joined me in both channels with thatn ame | Mar 05 05:20 |
| schestowitz | yes | Mar 05 05:36 |
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| schestowitz | FOSS ads still pay for the hosting.. | Mar 05 10:04 |
| schestowitz | We're lucky to have a generous host | Mar 05 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Whom I'll try to pay more | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:50] <schestowitz> Hey buddy, wanted to just verify you still get the monthly paypal payments from ad bard | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:50] <host> I certainly do, thanks! | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:50] <schestowitz> Cool :-) | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:52] <schestowitz> My new employer looked for a potential DC for Asterisk deployments | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:52] <schestowitz> I told them about you, they're not expanding beyond the UK for now | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:52] <host> Ah. Thanks for thinking of me. Would love to pick up some business like that. | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:52] <schestowitz> I sometimes suggest people look at CoCilotCo | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz |  | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:53] <host> Awesome. I need to do a lot of work on the websites. We don't really even have anything in the way of offers or pricing on there at the moment. | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:53] <host> I recently got a merchant account and everything set up so my existing customers can pay with credit cards. | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:53] <schestowitz> The client is the leading VoIP provider in the UK, I think | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:53] <host> Setting up ledgersmb right now to help out with accounting. | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:53] <schestowitz> they have a few servers in Cali. | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | [08:54] <schestowitz> I work with nagios a lot | Mar 05 10:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: why do you alwasy copy in loads of stuff here? | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: thanks for also offering room in Canada | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no | Mar 05 10:05 |
| sebsebseb | yes | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | But I'm transparent | Mar 05 10:05 |
| sebsebseb | you just did | Mar 05 10:05 |
| schestowitz | This is not personal details like personal lives | Mar 05 10:06 |
| schestowitz | The main channel we can try to keep on topic | Mar 05 10:06 |
| sebsebseb | this one gets publically logged as well | Mar 05 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Which is why I sometimes paste stuff of relevance to the community here | Mar 05 10:06 |
| sebsebseb | and you copy in loads of stuff here | Mar 05 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes, yes | Mar 05 10:06 |
| sebsebseb | and I am asking why you do that | Mar 05 10:06 |
| schestowitz | But there's no 'back room' activity | Mar 05 10:06 |
| schestowitz | We're not a secretive group, no hidden agenda | Mar 05 10:07 |
| sebsebseb | for example the thing you just copied in, does that really make much sense to the rest of us? no probably not | Mar 05 10:07 |
| schestowitz | And people can't accuse us otherwise | Mar 05 10:07 |
| sebsebseb | who is host? | Mar 05 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Techrights has a web host | Mar 05 10:07 |
| schestowitz | And I try to make sure the site is run without relying on some dubious company | Mar 05 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Some people host with Google for example | Mar 05 10:08 |
| schestowitz | And it can create conflict of interest | Mar 05 10:08 |
| sebsebseb | and the thing about paypal what was that? | Mar 05 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Remember when we had Google made in techrights? | Mar 05 10:08 |
| sebsebseb | no I don't | Mar 05 10:08 |
| schestowitz | People from Novell said we were "Funded by Microsoft" | Mar 05 10:08 |
| sebsebseb | I don't think I went to techrights when it was run on Google | Mar 05 10:08 |
| sebsebseb | or whatever your saying | Mar 05 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Cause Google AdSense put Microsoft ads there sometimes | Mar 05 10:09 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 05 10:09 |
| sebsebseb | ok like Linux Today then I guess | Mar 05 10:09 |
| schestowitz | It was Boycott Novell as the only project back then | Mar 05 10:09 |
| schestowitz | And they tried to discredit us then by saying the hosting was paid for by Micrfosoft ads | Mar 05 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Novell staff is desperate for spin like this | Mar 05 10:09 |
| sebsebseb | ok sure | Mar 05 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 05 10:10 |
| sebsebseb | and the site needs to run on Linux really as well | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux Today | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Make no mistake | Mar 05 10:10 |
| sebsebseb | and with Apache or something open source :D | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | They TOO get discredited for it | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Still... it's epic | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | It's seen by many as "Microsoft-funded" | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | But you'd have to look back at when Brian ran it | Mar 05 10:10 |
| sebsebseb | what you mean epic? it's still a famous example? | Mar 05 10:10 |
| sebsebseb | who's Brian? | Mar 05 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Carla still gets that in the comments she approves sometimes | Mar 05 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Brian writes for IDG now | Mar 05 10:11 |
| schestowitz | He was the managing editor of LT for a long time | Mar 05 10:11 |
| sebsebseb | well in a way maybe Linux Today having Microsoft adds isn't a competly bad thing, won't be seen as a Microsoft hate site by many that way | Mar 05 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Not sure.. | Mar 05 10:11 |
| schestowitz | I think sites that have this reliance will be better off losing to the likes of LXer of FS Daily | Mar 05 10:12 |
| sebsebseb | however techrights well you write bad about Microsoft as well, so having Microsoft adds on the site woudn't be good | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | People come to these pages and seeing massive Microsoft ads | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | After searching the Web for Linux info | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: precisely | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Shane and I tried to block these ads | Mar 05 10:12 |
| sebsebseb | who is Shane? | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | And they then came via Microsoft partner domains | Mar 05 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Shane used to write until 2009 | Mar 05 10:13 |
| sebsebseb | why did he quit? | Mar 05 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Like I explained before, he had little time to go online, problems outside the site | Mar 05 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 05 10:14 |
| schestowitz | But it's his personal life | Mar 05 10:14 |
| schestowitz | And it would be impolite to go further into ot | Mar 05 10:14 |
| schestowitz | *it | Mar 05 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | and I didn't even know about techrights untill after your DDOS | Mar 05 10:14 |
| schestowitz | His distro site is no longer live | Mar 05 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | attack | Mar 05 10:15 |
| sebsebseb | and someone was like, they are trolls or something, and I came to channels, and so on from there, said this stuff before I belive a few times probably | Mar 05 10:15 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/EDU-Nix-Live-CD-29373.shtml | Mar 05 10:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: EDU-Nix Live CD - Softpedia .::. Size~: 55.51 KB | Mar 05 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I was never a "troll" | Mar 05 10:15 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think the guy who I found out about the channel from, even said that maybe you did it to your own site or something | Mar 05 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I was someone some people don't agree with | Mar 05 10:15 |
| schestowitz | Mostly pro-Microsoft people | Mar 05 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand your last sentence | Mar 05 10:16 |
| sebsebseb | it can be interesting how people can end up in the channel, take nissh for example for the other channel, in because of that Ubuntu Member troll blog entry | Mar 05 10:16 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, at the time I was very actively blogging in schestowitz.com | Mar 05 10:16 |
| schestowitz | When I wrote more with Shane I neglected my personal site as a blogging platform | Mar 05 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Yes, the channel is interesting | Mar 05 10:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the guy who I found out about Techrights from, said techrights was trolls or something. also I think he may have said about the DDOS attack and how maybe it didn't happen realy you did to your own site or something as in made it go offline, as joke or whatever, I don't know, I am talking over a year ago now | Mar 05 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Many people have been around since it was started in 2008 | Mar 05 10:17 |
| schestowitz | And these days we make about 1MB of logs per day | Mar 05 10:17 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: there are flase rumours about us "faking" | Mar 05 10:18 |
| schestowitz | *false | Mar 05 10:18 |
| schestowitz | And I know the idiots who spread these rumours | Mar 05 10:18 |
| schestowitz | The usual suspects | Mar 05 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | and before I went to the channels I am pretty sure I had been to techrights.org a few times, because of linuxtoday linking to it | Mar 05 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I remember why I stayed, two reasons really | Mar 05 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | 1. well oiaohm I guess and people like that yeah :) people who knew Linux and had opinions like me and :) | Mar 05 10:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: 2. plus I liked the dents coming in from identica, would sometimes get onto interesting stuff, because of that | Mar 05 10:20 |
| sebsebseb | and whilst I am at it, after talking to you enough at first, I felt quite welcome really, but I remember how you thought I might have been a Novell person or something, because I told you to not show yourself as op all the time | Mar 05 10:20 |
| sebsebseb | ,but anyway over a year ago I was just talking, and doesn't time go quite quickly really | Mar 05 10:21 |
| sebsebseb | 2008 you say boycottnovell IRC started, well I would have liked a channel like that back in 2008 really, it's just I didn't know about it then | Mar 05 10:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I should say tweets coming in even above from Twitter? I mean tweets used to come in as well as far as I know, but not anymore for some reason? | Mar 05 10:23 |
| schestowitz | [10:19] <sebsebseb> 1. well oiaohm I guess and people like that yeah :) people who knew Linux and had opinions like me and :) | Mar 05 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Yes, people like you around here | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Some people are troublemakers | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | And people silently resent them | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Driving away other regulars | Mar 05 10:25 |
| sebsebseb | people like me? | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: 2. plus I liked the dents coming in from identica, would sometimes get onto interesting stuff, because of that | Mar 05 10:25 |
| sebsebseb | something? | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I selected carefully what ensures we get all the news that matters in the IRC channel | Mar 05 10:25 |
| schestowitz | So I don't need to read anything else, or hardly so | Mar 05 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | right, but does everyone who has their dents coming in, or nearly everyone, know they do? | Mar 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Not just tech neither. Some politics (gentle), environment, showbiz | Mar 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | The channel produce techbytes too | Mar 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | I met Tim mostly via IRC, same with Gordon | Mar 05 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | yes I know who make techbytes | Mar 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Many real-life friendships formed her | Mar 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | *(here | Mar 05 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm you meet Tim once, more than once? | Mar 05 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | Gordon meet him yet? | Mar 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Mar 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Tim spoke to you too, he told me | Mar 05 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | no | Mar 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | The core of the site seems to have become UK-centric | Mar 05 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | only had IRC contact with Tim | Mar 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | cyes | Mar 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | yes | Mar 05 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | and beause of boycottnovell/Techrights | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | He's a lovely person | Mar 05 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | yeah seems so | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/43870359736434688 | Mar 05 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @einfeldt: RT @sjvn: RT @MichaelSinger: No Windows 8 Tablet OS Until 2012? @InformationWeek http://is.gd/gxeQM5 Another nail in the WinTablet coffin. | Mar 05 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | the core of the site or you mean IRC channel or? | Mar 05 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: No Windows 8 Tablet OS Until 2012? -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 89.2 KB | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/43872130462519296 | Mar 05 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @einfeldt: RT @linuxmagazine: #Android Bumps to No. 1 in Mobile OS Share http://ow.ly/47OHb <- In Jan. 2011. Still... #LMNews | Mar 05 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Android Bumps to No. 1 in Mobile OS Share - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 132.26 KB | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, IRC is core | Mar 05 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | well gnufreex and mincher and DeamonFC and diablod3 none of them are from UK | Mar 05 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | no I don't think the core of IRC is mainly UK people | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | True | Mar 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | daemon is not core and diablo isn't either | Mar 05 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah oiaohm he's not from UK either | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | They annoy people | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | He's from .au | Mar 05 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | what do you mean by core? | Mar 05 10:29 |
| sebsebseb | the main people who chat in IRC that don't annoy loads of people? | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | People whom I trust | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Whom I can link to without fear of regretting it later | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Ender is flipping sides all the time | Mar 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | So I don't trust him | Mar 05 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | link to, like RD on identica? | Mar 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Those whom I trust are also polite | Mar 05 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | mention in a blog post maybe? | Mar 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Unlike those random people who embarrass us by trolling sites/mailing lists | Mar 05 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | Ender is flipping sides? | Mar 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Yes, RD and quoting in the site | Mar 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | He also subscribe to absurd theories now | Mar 05 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | DeamonFC DiabloD3 I guess, and sometimes Gnufreex and Mincer all try and annoy Jono at bit at times when he's in there I guess | Mar 05 10:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/43868681230495744 | Mar 05 10:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @einfeldt: .@jonobacon why do u feel FOSS is going mainstream? Glad to hear it, of course | Mar 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Jono said: "Never in my career so far I have I ever felt like we are so close to being ready to bring Free Software to the mainstream. Exciting times." | Mar 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | "Free software" | Mar 05 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | also some of the things Mincer and Gnufreex say about Ubuntu for example, are pretty extreame, not that keen on it myself, but well it's kind of funny in a way a lot of it even at times | Mar 05 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical think Unity will hit off with the main streame, a lot of us in the Linux community, think that won't be quite the case though | Mar 05 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | in fact quite a few us think Mint will get more popular this year it seems | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Naa... I think he refers to something else | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu takes the beating at the moment | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's deserved | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | The Banshee screamers... | Mar 05 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm well Gnome Shell is getting a lot of negative comments about it as well | Mar 05 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: about the maximise and minimise buttons not being there | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | People look for excuses to attack the desktop reader | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | *leader | Mar 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | gnome3 also gets some nwegative feedback | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | At least we have kDE and they're all developing fast | Mar 05 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | I think toher distro's need to, get better and compete more properly :) ideally well a few of them | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu should keep Unity only for tablets | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Like it was originally | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | sub-notebooks too | Mar 05 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | well KDE may get even more pouplar by a long way this year as a result of Gnome Shell and Unity | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Mar 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter much | Mar 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Android is winning a lot | Mar 05 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: #ubuntu IRC channel should be pretty interesting when 11.04 comes out | Mar 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | At the expense of many | Mar 05 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | I will so be in there idleing and sometimes typing stuff even | Mar 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | It's too noisy for me, I left it | Mar 05 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | yeah it's busy and it will be even more busy when 11.04 comes out | Mar 05 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | for quite a while again | Mar 05 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | maybe about 2000 nicks in there now, including well the bots and such | Mar 05 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | yeah maybe about 2000 nicks for a while this time round when 11.04 comes out | Mar 05 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I am not that keen on the direction Ubuntu is going in, so yep I stopped doing #ubuntu support | Mar 05 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | and now getting more invovled with other distro's instead, and it's great :) | Mar 05 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: we could chat here | Mar 05 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh so you been downloading LInux conf videos? | Mar 05 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 05 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | why? | Mar 05 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Some are really good to watch. | Mar 05 10:41 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm yeah probably | Mar 05 10:41 |
| sebsebseb | so what's the link for that? | Mar 05 10:41 |
| oiaohm | http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/ | Mar 05 10:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: linuxconfau on blip.tv .::. Size~: 26.01 KB | Mar 05 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | what and got to download them as files? nah? | Mar 05 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | can see as Flash video I guesS? | Mar 05 10:42 |
| oiaohm | You can download the files | Mar 05 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | or stream online? | Mar 05 10:43 |
| oiaohm | Its your option how. | Mar 05 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | ok well | Mar 05 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Mar 05 10:43 |
| oiaohm | ogg mp4 and flv are provide as download options from blip | Mar 05 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | ok i'll check those out probably not right now though | Mar 05 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: of course there are more FOSDEM videos I haven't seen yet as well | Mar 05 10:43 |
| oiaohm | 2 of the keynotes are from people who made the internet. | Mar 05 10:43 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 05 10:44 |
| sebsebseb | so Al Gore? | Mar 05 10:44 |
| oiaohm | No | Mar 05 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Cerf | Mar 05 10:44 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 05 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Vinton G Cerf | Mar 05 10:45 |
| sebsebseb | not heard of that one | Mar 05 10:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway Canonical deserves some of the negative stuff they get really, for example to do with Copyright Assignments and Unity | Mar 05 10:49 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and you would maybe even say they deserve negative stuff, for shipping Mono apps by default | Mar 05 10:50 |
| sebsebseb | if they deserve or not is opinion, and depends on what we are reffering to | Mar 05 10:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/asmyworldturns/status/43944830728011776 | Mar 05 10:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @asmyworldturns: @schestowitz Been enjoying Firefox 4 so far. Installed all the Betas. VERY few bugs. Keep up the GREAT work!! :) #Firefox #mozilla | Mar 05 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Anyone tried it yet? | Mar 05 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | I have | Mar 05 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Any good? | Mar 05 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Faster/lighter? | Mar 05 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | in Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 and alpha 2 in vm's | Mar 05 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | differnet | Mar 05 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Today Firefox took over 800mb here | Mar 05 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | Got very slow | Mar 05 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | Annoying | Mar 05 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | little things differnet here and there | Mar 05 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | ,but also it seems | Mar 05 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | no reload button by default for example | Mar 05 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | and then when I went to the add buttons thing, I coudn't even see it there, hmm | Mar 05 10:52 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: did you get my wikipedia link about Vint Cerf | Mar 05 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: no | Mar 05 10:52 |
| oiaohm_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf | Mar 05 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Vint Cerf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 90.85 KB | Mar 05 10:52 |
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| sebsebseb | and I get that as well, Firefox slowing the computer down at times, or maybe even Seamonkey, because of a script crashed or whatever hmm | Mar 05 10:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus now days I like having both Firefox and Seamonkey open together quite a lot, and with a few tabs or so for both | Mar 05 10:53 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: Vint Cerf is one of the historic figures in the networking world. And has awards from most countries over it. | Mar 05 10:53 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: oh ok | Mar 05 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Most? | Mar 05 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Like 90 awards? | Mar 05 10:54 |
| schestowitz | or 150? | Mar 05 10:54 |
| oiaohm_ | Around 100. schestowitz | Mar 05 10:54 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: oh ok wow | Mar 05 10:54 |
| sebsebseb | 100 awards | Mar 05 10:54 |
| schestowitz | RMS has many honorary PhDs | Mar 05 10:54 |
| oiaohm_ | He is one of the inventors of IP/TCP | Mar 05 10:54 |
| oiaohm_ | I am not talking PhD's I am talking like the USA presentents medal. | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | If he hadn't been so focused on GNU he could get a proper one, too | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm_: I know | Mar 05 10:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: if he wasn't so focussed on Free Software, he may have become rich instead | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | What for? | Mar 05 10:55 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm being like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs maybe? | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat about this with someone last night | Mar 05 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Some people hoard and oard | Mar 05 10:56 |
| schestowitz | They don't even know why | Mar 05 10:56 |
| sebsebseb | hoard and oard what you mean? | Mar 05 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Like it's a contest where they keep score with bank accounts | Mar 05 10:56 |
| schestowitz | I'm sick of such people | Mar 05 10:56 |
| schestowitz | I tried to be polite | Mar 05 10:56 |
| sebsebseb | some people think that someone is really great, if they have a lot of money | Mar 05 10:56 |
| sebsebseb | some I mean many | Mar 05 10:56 |
| schestowitz | But as they refuse to address world problems they merely become part of the problem | Mar 05 10:56 |
| sebsebseb | and I purpously corrected that after sending, because I knew I would | Mar 05 10:56 |
| sebsebseb | that's the world we have anyway | Mar 05 10:57 |
| sebsebseb | money this that and the other | Mar 05 10:57 |
| sebsebseb | if have a lot of money seen as a success and if not seen as a failure basically, in general | Mar 05 10:57 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: basically without some of Vint Cerfs inventions there would not be the internet we know today. | Mar 05 10:57 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: and he has not stopped inventing stuff yet. | Mar 05 10:57 |
| schestowitz |  | Mar 05 10:58 |
| schestowitz | [10:57] <sebsebseb> that's the world we have anyway | Mar 05 10:58 |
| schestowitz | But this is the wrong response | Mar 05 10:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in fact if of working age, and don't have a job, and could be working really, and not in education either, well then I guess yeah in general seen as a failure really by a lot of people, what ashame | Mar 05 10:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: even if this person is for example helping people with Linux online or something good like that | Mar 05 10:58 |
| sebsebseb | or even programming opensource/freesoftware as a volunter | Mar 05 10:58 |
| schestowitz | Something of [cope with it| you won't fix the world| it has always been this way] | Mar 05 10:58 |
| schestowitz | Such passivity would have kept women out of work/ballot and also keep classic slavery in tact | Mar 05 10:59 |
| sebsebseb | if enough people get together we can change the world quite a bit, and one way we can get together and do this is by using the Internet | Mar 05 10:59 |
| sebsebseb | we can take the Egypt news as an example of this | Mar 05 10:59 |
| schestowitz | [10:57] <sebsebseb> if have a lot of money seen as a success and if not seen as a failure basically, in general | Mar 05 10:59 |
| sebsebseb | enough people getting together, because of the INternet? | Mar 05 10:59 |
| schestowitz | Prizes don't work this way | Mar 05 10:59 |
| sebsebseb | well I haven't really been following that news quite cloestly, but it seems the Facebook generation were annoyed, so started going against the goverment? | Mar 05 10:59 |
| schestowitz | If it were not for FB they would use another platform | Mar 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz | So it's not a FB thing | Mar 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz | If anything, FB exposed leaders | Mar 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Who were than arrested | Mar 05 11:00 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and on a subject if it wasn't for this would use something else instead well here's one | Mar 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz | FB doesn't give control only to its users | Mar 05 11:00 |
| sebsebseb | all those people who think they woudn't be using Linux on the desktop, if it wasn't for Ubuntu uhmm I guess LOL | Mar 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz | The unrest is caused by unemployment, rising food prices, wikileaks material, etc. | Mar 05 11:01 |
| sebsebseb | if it wasn't for Ubuntu, they would have been using another distro instead a lot of them, OpenSuse or Mandriva or something, you know | Mar 05 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Facebook was just a common tool to rally support for causes | Mar 05 11:01 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora even | Mar 05 11:01 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: and schestowitz any vint cerf video is a good watch. He is a great joke writer. | Mar 05 11:01 |
| sebsebseb | so all these people who are so loyal to UBuntu hmm | Mar 05 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Giving FB credit for protests is like saying Ubuntu deserves credit for Linux' success | Mar 05 11:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well a father in Egypt even named his baby girl Facebook, because of this stuff | Mar 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | I know, but.. | Mar 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Some parents called their kid "Google" | Mar 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | It's anecdotal | Mar 05 11:02 |
| sebsebseb | did they? | Mar 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | For media attention | Mar 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Selfish parents IMHO | Mar 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | In Sweden there's a list of "allowed" names | Mar 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Unless they've changed that already | Mar 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: you know the most common baby name in the UK? | Mar 05 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | Tom? Sarah? | Mar 05 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | Hannah? | Mar 05 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | Rebbecca? | Mar 05 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | Chris? | Mar 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Close... | Mar 05 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | Adam? | Mar 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | !google uk most common baby name | Mar 05 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324194/Mohammed-popular-baby-boys-ahead-Jack-Harry.html | Mar 05 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Mohammed Now Tops the List of Most Popular Baby Boy Names in ... | http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/10/28/mohammed-tops-list-popular-baby-boy-britain/ | Mar 05 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - National Statistics Online - Baby Names 2009 | http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp%3Fid%3D184 | Mar 05 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Top 100 Baby Names 2009 - Baby Names 2010 - Baby-Names-Guide.co.uk | http://www.baby-names-guide.co.uk/top-100-baby-names.php | Mar 05 11:05 |
| sebsebseb | oh Jack | Mar 05 11:05 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Notice how Murdoch covers it | Mar 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | His "Fox" and "Daily Fail" fake news | Mar 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch still breeds anti-Muslim hatred | Mar 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | And now he gets some more Sky... | Mar 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz | The SKy's the limit :-/ | Mar 05 11:06 |
| sebsebseb | BSKYB | Mar 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz | I ahte Sky | Mar 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz | *hate | Mar 05 11:06 |
| sebsebseb | Why? | Mar 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch, celebs, football | Mar 05 11:06 |
| sebsebseb | well we did lose two good channelss this year, because of Sky :( | Mar 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Everything that represents being dumb | Mar 05 11:07 |
| sebsebseb | well that's how he has made a lot of his money | Mar 05 11:07 |
| sebsebseb | stupid people | Mar 05 11:07 |
| sebsebseb | stupid in general people | Mar 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz | At the gym I saw them spending hours covering Chelsea Clinton's wedding | Mar 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Like.. who gives a **** **** ** ** | Mar 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I was rowing and that's what was on TV | Mar 05 11:07 |
| sebsebseb | they been going on about the royal weeding recently | Mar 05 11:07 |
| sebsebseb | on the media | Mar 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Lousy foolish demoralising dress, fake celeb romance, etc. BS | Mar 05 11:08 |
| sebsebseb | you know Prince Charles | Mar 05 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Waste of electricity and pjhotons | Mar 05 11:08 |
| sebsebseb | or do I mean William, well whatever | Mar 05 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Oh! Don't get me started :-) | Mar 05 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Why are people supposed to care about it? | Mar 05 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Because they are *told* so. | Mar 05 11:08 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I guess | Mar 05 11:08 |
| schestowitz | People know this silly wedding better than they know ewaste problem | Mar 05 11:09 |
| sebsebseb | hmm intereseting point | Mar 05 11:09 |
| sebsebseb | and ewaste pollution is more importnat | Mar 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz | One affects some young dudes, the other affects millions and we can all do something about it. | Mar 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, ewaste has many side-effects | Mar 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz | We don't feel many of them here | Mar 05 11:09 |
| sebsebseb | what about you know the army | Mar 05 11:10 |
| sebsebseb | the dead soldiors coming back | Mar 05 11:10 |
| sebsebseb | what you think about that? | Mar 05 11:10 |
| sebsebseb | media love going on about that here | Mar 05 11:10 |
| sebsebseb | I know one guy online who thinks that kind of stuff is propoganda | Mar 05 11:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well? | Mar 05 11:14 |
| schestowitz |  | Mar 05 11:26 |
| schestowitz | [11:10] <sebsebseb> what about you know the army | Mar 05 11:26 |
| schestowitz | Army is needed sometimes | Mar 05 11:26 |
| schestowitz | But in rare situations | Mar 05 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Where diplomacy falls on its face | Mar 05 11:27 |
| schestowitz | the problem is, war is business | Mar 05 11:27 |
| schestowitz | it's a capitalistic system, which means that selling weapons/wars is good for business. That's the whole Military Industrial Complex think Truman (??) or Eisenhower spoke about | Mar 05 11:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok, but that's now what I was asking | Mar 05 11:30 |
| sebsebseb | that's not what I was asking | Mar 05 11:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the media mention the dead soldiors coming back a lot, what do you think about that? | Mar 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | Ask Murdoch | Mar 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | He sells wars | Mar 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | For his fellow billionaires to whom war is a hot sale. This industry hates people like qu1j0t3, who devalue its products | Mar 05 11:32 |
| oiaohm_ | Really I wonder how long until MSI and foxconn start releasing androind devices. | Mar 05 11:43 |
| oiaohm_ | http://ostatic.com/blog/samsung-feels-apples-thunder-following-the-ipad-2-debut Hmm PC market like response. | Mar 05 11:51 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm_: mind if I add your name as someone associated with the startup? | Mar 05 12:47 |
| schestowitz | To give assurance that people are ready for contracting outside the UK too.. | Mar 05 12:47 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly distrowatch think PC Linux OS is a Debian derverative | Mar 05 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | going by the 3rd comment on the second page of comments found here | Mar 05 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | well for this article | Mar 05 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3926941_2/Linux-Leaders-Debian-and-Ubuntu-Derivative-Distros.htm | Mar 05 12:50 |
| sebsebseb | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3926941_2/Linux-Leaders-Debian-and-Ubuntu-Derivative-Distros.htm | Mar 05 12:50 |
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| sebsebseb | ah nuts I am doing this in wrong channel | Mar 05 12:51 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12538048 | Mar 05 17:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Audio slideshow: Beautiful science .::. Size~: 37.67 KB | Mar 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz | WHat about it? I've added it to the science links. | Mar 05 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | just fyi | Mar 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | But I'm not going to post much over the weekend | Mar 05 17:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | since i know u liek imaging | Mar 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I appreciate the link | Mar 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | It just came out of the blue | Mar 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Been super busy recently... I am coming back to the old gym on Monday. Will be able to resume using the facilities right away (I live nearby)... then I plan to finish building the site with decent content and get all set up. | Mar 05 17:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | k | Mar 05 17:46 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66198885 https://identi.ca/notice/66198628 | Mar 05 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Billy (seeds)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 18:54:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz me too man. installed it in work in virtualbox | Mar 05 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @MatÄj Cepl (mcepl)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 18:48:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz put not your trust in Nokia, in whom there is no salvation ... http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Mar 05 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 05 19:37 |
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