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oiaohmThere is also MP3tunes that is turned off by default.Mar 02 00:00
twitterI'm not sure how Amarok could keep people from doing anything to their code or that this is the same thing.Mar 02 00:00
oiaohmAmarok has trademark does not fear using it.Mar 02 00:01
twitterIf I go sign up to Magnatunes on my own, Amarok will still accept the member number but Amarok won't get the money.Mar 02 00:01
oiaohmNot 100 percent true.Mar 02 00:01
twitterreally.Mar 02 00:01
twitterhow?Mar 02 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE #Libya Gaddafi does himself no favours waffling about Al Qaeda when he should be talking about internal political tensions.Mar 02 00:02
oiaohmIf you use your existing number inside Amarok it gets picked up and funds start flowing in Amarok direction.Mar 02 00:02
twitterThe Amarok "sign up" button only gives 10% of the first payment to Amarok. Mar 02 00:02
twitterThe rest seems to go to Magnatune for running the service.Mar 02 00:03
twitterthe sign up looks like a microtip button.Mar 02 00:03
oiaohmIf you check out with Megnatunes there is a on going percentage.Mar 02 00:03
twitterlink?Mar 02 00:04
twitterThat would be very nice of magnatunes but not necessary Mar 02 00:04
twitterIt will be a bad thing if ever the RIAA taxes Magnatunes.  Mar 02 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] This comment pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the Ubuntu/Banshee dramallamas. http://ur1.ca/3d9e2Mar 02 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth   » Page not found .::. Size~: 16.06 KBMar 02 00:05
oiaohmhttp://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/643-Amarok-recieves-first-Magnatune-sales-commision.html  Magnatune also employees many amarok key staff.  Mar 02 00:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amarok recieves first Magnatune sales commision  - Amarok Blog .::. Size~: 45.97 KBMar 02 00:06
oiaohmYes magntune is one of the driving forces to get Amarok on windows.Mar 02 00:07
twitterwhat?Mar 02 00:08
twitterMicrosoft got a mole in Magnatunes?Mar 02 00:08
oiaohmNo Magnatunes simply wants access to the Microsoft users money.Mar 02 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] reading the #ubuntu / #banshee meeting IRC log, is like classic Tony Blair "if you disagree, it's because we haven't explained it right"Mar 02 00:09
Diablo-D3everything is a Microsoft plotMar 02 00:09
oiaohmIn the way itunes gets to raid the Microsoft users pocket.  twitterMar 02 00:09
oiaohmThey are also working on a OS X port as well twitterMar 02 00:09
oiaohmtwitter: companies are companies.   The all important dollar.Mar 02 00:11
oiaohmReally amarok on windows might reduce some of the migration stress.Mar 02 00:11
oiaohmOne good thing will come out of Magnatune push twitter.  Focus on improving KDE bloat problem.  First installer for windows of amarok was over 1.5 gbMar 02 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #PZMyers' blog: That's no way to start your morning http://ur1.ca/3d9ql #humor #atheist #wtfMar 02 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: That's no way to start your morning : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 188.39 KBMar 02 00:17
twitterWindows is bloat.  "Cross platform" code makes bloat in free software. We will all be better off without Windows and we will get there faster when the platform looks like the dry lake bed it is.  Mar 02 00:18
twitterAll the cool software is on gnu/linux, porting it to windows is a waste of time, a double detriment to software freedom.Mar 02 00:19
twitterlet it die.Mar 02 00:19
oiaohmReally some of the bloat issues have been effecting Linux distributions shipping KDE as well.Mar 02 00:20
twitterThat was my point.Mar 02 00:20
oiaohmIe porting to Windows kinda made it stick out like a saw thumb.Mar 02 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @RaysTLH: A 2004 UNIX/Linux Code Comparison for SCO Showed Essentially Nothing by @Groklaw http://bit.ly/gKQZgQMar 02 00:20
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twitterWhen you let Windows programmers tell you what to do, you end up stupid and bloated.Mar 02 00:20
oiaohmIts still Linux trained programmers working on this problem.Mar 02 00:21
twitterthat is a waste of talent Mar 02 00:21
twitterand it will warp themMar 02 00:21
oiaohmReally not.Mar 02 00:21
twitterI'm sure they want to claw their eyes out when they go home.Mar 02 00:22
oiaohmMost of the issues trace to complier and lib construction.Mar 02 00:22
oiaohmIe platform netural.Mar 02 00:22
twitterbbl, I've got work to do.Mar 02 00:22
twittertry not to promote Microsoft too much while I'm gone, ohm.Mar 02 00:22
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sebsebseboh schestowitz has gone away?Mar 02 00:22
sebsebsebwell schestowitz I guess you'll read this later anywayMar 02 00:23
oiaohmsebsebseb: the time of day schestowitz is most likely in bed.Mar 02 00:23
sebsebsebthat's great you have sent a dent to the mageia group on identica :) ,but little problemMar 02 00:23
sebsebsebthe link you provide seems to have nothing to do with Mageia at all, instead about  Sun guyMar 02 00:23
sebsebseboiaohm: well only 00:21 ,but he seems to get up around 5am a lot nowMar 02 00:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: the second link that isMar 02 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Steve Bell on Muammar Gaddafi – cartoon http://ping.fm/jqUulMar 02 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This PHP story got me wondering if Microsoft's new strategy is divide and conquer: divide !OpenSource from !Linux? http://ping.fm/2bfwUMar 02 00:30
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neighborleeoiaohm, yes I wanted to try konversation here in windows..what a nightmare, for a kewl app...Mar 02 00:31
oiaohmneighborlee: I found out with kontact.Mar 02 00:31
neighborleeahh yesMar 02 00:32
oiaohmNice email client other than the fact it just maked 3gb of harddrive space disappaer they first time I tried the windows version.Mar 02 00:32
oiaohmI had made the mistake of installing the debugging versions of everything as well.Mar 02 00:32
neighborleeeek ;))Mar 02 00:32
neighborleeatm im jut using foxmailMar 02 00:33
neighborleereally like itMar 02 00:33
neighborleewth..there is no easy listening category on magnatune..or is it called something ELSE these days o_0Mar 02 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Circadian rhythm totally knackered. Went to fridge for a yoghurt and ended up cooking.Mar 02 00:39
neighborleeMay sound anal, and maybe it is..their web design isnt what I might call , enjoyable...I much prefer <though still relatively simple> jango's design , at they have who Im interested in, not just newage stuff ;)Mar 02 00:42
oiaohmThere is some easy listening hidding in Jango takes finding.Mar 02 00:45
gnufreexShuttleworth still continues his "Red Hat is proprietary" FUD http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/611#comment-345697Mar 02 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Study: 87 Percent Of Movies Would Be Better With Michael Keaton In Them http://ur1.ca/3dag1 < so True!Mar 02 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches HTML5 Chinese Interest Group http://ow.ly/1bzjjbMar 02 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Shuttleworth still continues his "Red Hat is proprietary" FUD http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/611#comment-345697Mar 02 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] At red hat forum manila #fb http://ur1.ca/3dailMar 02 01:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Keep your #Boehner out of my uterus! http://ur1.ca/3dai0 #political #humor #liberal #prochoice #abortion #RepublicanMar 02 01:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Natural Resources Min. Christian Paradis was lobbied by The Coal Association of Canada on Sep. 17 http://bit.ly/efwFpiMar 02 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That puts falconry in the shade. In Kazahkstan they hunt foxes with eagles.Mar 02 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Sen. #AlFranken offers three ideas to help cut government spending http://ur1.ca/3dakxMar 02 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: A 2004 UNIX/Linux Code Comparison for SCO Showed Essentially Nothing - http://bit.ly/ifqkUq #SCO #Linux #FOSSMar 02 01:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Important SCOTUS decision: "Corporations do not have a right of personal privacy" to evade FOIA: http://wmk.me/eftLF2Mar 02 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet revenue sharing bad choice of words. taking 75% to 100% without proper discussion is 'taking revenue' #Canonical #Ubun ...Mar 02 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] car stopped in front of the bus (blocking it), passenger jumps out and waves... she was scared to miss the bus! Fuuuuu !OnlyInChinaMar 02 01:32
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Ender2070How is the gatekeeping SchestowitzMar 02 01:33
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Ender2070Brainwashed by Soros/Rockefellar and other globalist PRMar 02 01:36
Ender2070I told you before; i'm onto youMar 02 01:37
Diablo-D3oh godMar 02 01:38
Diablo-D3not that shit againMar 02 01:38
Diablo-D3protip: rockefellar is dead, and soros couldnt plot his way out of a wet paper bagMar 02 01:39
Diablo-D3#GlennBeck is also not the second coming of JesusMar 02 01:39
Ender2070I've never watched or listened to GlennBeckMar 02 01:40
Ender2070I don't watch TVMar 02 01:40
Ender2070not a brainwashed dopeMar 02 01:40
Diablo-D3yet you're all HURRR SOROS IS EVIL AND A GLOBALIST AND A SECRET ZIONIST ELDARRRRRRMar 02 01:40
Ender2070steal any money lately Diablo?Mar 02 01:40
Ender2070lol zionist, no i dont play those games DiabloMar 02 01:41
Ender2070the people calling him a zionist are agents trying to demonize his criticsMar 02 01:41
Ender2070because im against the left wing, im automatically a brainwashed right wing koch supporterMar 02 01:42
Ender2070those are roy's wordsMar 02 01:42
Diablo-D3.... demonize... his.... critics?Mar 02 01:42
Diablo-D3how the fuck does _that_ workMar 02 01:42
Diablo-D3its anti-semetic slurs coming out of the #GlennBeck/Bill O'Rly camo because... they're anti-semetic!Mar 02 01:43
Diablo-D3sometimes a dick really is a dickMar 02 01:43
Ender2070if the media is covering the people calling him a zionist, then people will think that anti-soros people are all racistMar 02 01:43
Ender2070just like you tried to do just nowMar 02 01:43
Diablo-D3wait hold on nowMar 02 01:44
Diablo-D3Im trolling both sides equally and fairlyMar 02 01:44
Ender2070I noticed that my tweets/dents don't even show up here anymore which is fine, but he should have picked a less political reason. Being a brainwashed koch supporter isn't going to make me happy with his statements.Mar 02 01:45
Ender2070That's gatekeepingMar 02 01:45
Ender2070Now I have him admitting he removed it because im not left wingMar 02 01:46
Diablo-D3Ender2070: actually, he got tired of your shitMar 02 01:46
Ender2070well maybe im tired of all your socialist bullshitMar 02 01:47
Ender2070what the hell does linux advocacy have to do with pop control, climate change and political issuesMar 02 01:47
Ender2070techrights pushes as much conspiracy theories as infowars, with most citations being himselfMar 02 01:48
Diablo-D3hey nowMar 02 01:49
Diablo-D3sometimes he retweets me :<Mar 02 01:49
Ender2070lolMar 02 01:50
Ender2070most != allMar 02 01:51
*Ender2070 goes back to lurkingMar 02 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Natural Resources Min. Christian Paradis was lobbied by Marathon Oil Canada Corporation on Sep. 09 http://bit.ly/haJPgiMar 02 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 Nor would I be offended if a Kenyan football team called themselves "The Fat-Ass Americans" !fedora http://ur1.ca/3dawlMar 02 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 Postscript: it's pretty easy for us white males to say we're never offended; I was never offended until I dated an AA womanMar 02 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @lamm I first heard about it ten minutes ago when I started reading this thread ;) #cherokeeMar 02 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 441 Political nastiness driven by chains. #weblit #webfic #Minis #worthreading #fantasy #politicsMar 02 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] prediction: "I think you wanna make a phone call. Can I help you?" - !q, #Clippy on the new #NokMsft phoneMar 02 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "your 2 cents don't make a million, just like 2 failures don't make a success"Mar 02 03:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Mesa S3TC External Library Hits Version 1.0.0: For those that use libtxc_dxtn, the external S3TC library to ... http://bit.ly/i1H4kBMar 02 04:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @w3c W3C Launches HTML5 Chinese Interest Group http://ow.ly/1bzjjbMar 02 04:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @seeds ♺ @rms: Mousavi arrested http://ur1.ca/3dbc3Mar 02 04:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @gbraad prediction: "I think you wanna make a phone call. Can I help you?" - !q, #Clippy on the new #NokMsft phoneMar 02 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gavinang: http://scsstudents.sg/ New SCS site for Students! #fbMar 02 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Thunderbird 3.1.8 Update is Now Available http://mzl.la/gAPL0QMar 02 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Test add-on features, Hackasaurus, Build a virtual park, Game on spotlight and more… http://bit.ly/hdbkFTMar 02 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Announcing Add-on SDK 1.0b3 http://bit.ly/exszjjMar 02 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2011/03/01 http://bit.ly/hYwE3kMar 02 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 3.6.14 and 3.5.17 security updates now available http://mzl.la/gHR3dCMar 02 04:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Canadian Government should be doubling environmental spending not halving it http://ur1.ca/3dbut #cdnpoli !Canada #climatechangeMar 02 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Splashtop: #Linux for #Windows users http://ur1.ca/3dbvz @SplashtopMar 02 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Qaddafi shopping for plastic surgeons just before the riots? how Marie Antoinette. #libyaMar 02 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @akkakk: How far apart are the Earth and Moon? Good video: http://ur1.ca/3dbw3Mar 02 05:29
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twitterI'm having a look this finally.  http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030111-microsoft-rabellino.htmlMar 02 05:36
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twitterWhile this "Apache guy" and "Hard core Debian-ista" might not be able to talk for the free software world, we can be sure that he and Network World are talking for Microsoft and I like some of the things I'm reading.Mar 02 05:38
twitterFor instance, the company finally admits, "Developers nowadays are mostly to be found in the open source world. We need to go where they are,"Mar 02 05:39
twitterThis has been apparent for about ten years but Microsoft has steadfastly denied it, arguing that no one could possibly make a living off the hobby OS and slinging other insults that we all remember.Mar 02 05:40
twitterThe company is also keen to avoid "theoretical" discussions and talk about "specifics" like how to make Windows less dismal by wasting developer time porting free software there.  Mar 02 05:42
twitterIck, they brag about having an unnamed "insider" someone that, "has inside knowledge about how to connect with [free software] people even if their contact information is not publicly available. He knows all the backchannels."  I'm guessing this is more the result of Microsoft's careful monitoring and infiltration efforts than it is a real person but it's really creepy either way.Mar 02 05:45
twitterbarf, page two is all Microsoft talking points, ass covering and propaganda.  No one following free software can read this kind of drek without feeling ill.... why am I wasting my time on it?  To see what else slips out of the obviously prostrate company. Mar 02 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @seeds ♺ @chicagonpg: Mexican Drug Lord Officially Thanks American Lawmakers For Keeping Drugs Illegal http://is.gd/qREUFdMar 02 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raila's family was involved in maize scandal, claim US cables http://ur1.ca/3dbza !wlMar 02 05:50
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twitterhe he, his friends were all polite about his move to Microsoft as we might expect from free software people but not Microsoft themselves or fauxpen source exploiters.Mar 02 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2011-03-01 French, English and US Special Forces Enter Libya to Reinforce Uprising #Libya #Feb17 http://ur1.ca/3dbzgMar 02 05:54
twitterLOL, "We're living in a mixed IT environment. If you want to develop something that has an impact, you cannot discount the community. Microsoft has a huge community of developers, and has always been about developers. Developers ... " He must have missed Steve Ballmer's "Advertisers, Advertisers, Advertisers" speech where Microsoft dismissed their own community.  Mar 02 05:54
schestowitzHi, twitterMar 02 05:54
twitterhiMar 02 05:54
schestowitzHold on, lemmie read..Mar 02 05:54
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twitterI'm getting tired of the article, it's mostly a puff piece. I went there because PJ laughed at it.Mar 02 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Nouveau Driver Is Moving Along Slowly But Surely http://ur1.ca/3dbzx #linuxMar 02 05:55
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schestowitzIt's 2Mar 02 05:56
schestowitzJoeMar 02 05:56
schestowitzPosted two whitewash pieceMar 02 05:56
schestowitzPosted two whitewash piecesMar 02 05:56
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030111-microsoft-php-opensource.html?hpg1=bnMar 02 05:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PHP user group lauds Microsoft's open source contributions .::. Size~: 126.46 KBMar 02 05:57
schestowitzIt's the same "Microsoft subnet" fluffMar 02 05:57
twitterPJ nails it.  "Of course, Microsoft wants developers to write for Windows instead of for Linux. But why in the world would a community person want to help them do it? Other than money. Because the end result will not be FOSS, with the F as in freedom."Mar 02 05:57
twitterWhat I liked was the admission that the developers are all in the free software world now.Mar 02 05:58
twitterThat's really the reason Windows sucks so bad, Microsoft drove everyone off.Mar 02 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@johnsu01 The February issue of the Free Software Supporter is out, and should be landing in your mailbox shortly.Mar 02 05:59
twitterIt was always a bad deal but they decided to make it absolutely unbearable for Vista.  Mar 02 05:59
twitterNo developers, no work, game over.Mar 02 05:59
twitterI think nouveau is in squeeze.  Have not tried it yet but I have a desktop with nvidia and should give it a whirl.  The nv driver had always been "good enough" for my purposes.  Mar 02 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] RT @giammi @carlopiana Also interesting - neither Salk nor Sabin patented their polio vaccines; they donated the rights as gifts to huma ...Mar 02 06:00
twitterIntel had me enjoying composite, but I turn it off for the extra speed boost. Mar 02 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @rmcla_ca: VIDEO: "Protests and Civil Liberties" re: #G8 #G20 and Vancouver #Olympics [...] http://bit.ly/fJ0qnEMar 02 06:02
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twittermore funnies -> ""When asked if Rabellino might urge Microsoft to build Windows computers that aren't plagued by constant updates and can start up and shut down as fast as a Linux machine, Rabellino says, "You know, it's something we should work on."Mar 02 06:02
twitterbeat badly in tech, abandoned by developers, who is Microsoft fooling?Mar 02 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @gbraad prediction: "I think you wanna make a phone call. Can I help you?" - #Clippy on the new #NokMsft phone <LOLMar 02 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @oliviachow: My questions in Parl re Inquiry on #G20 and gov's response: http://bit.ly/g6O5RU #hw #fbMar 02 06:04
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twitterGross, he does the patent gangster thing.  "These licenses offer more patent protection than the more commonly used open source licenses, Rabellino indicates. ...  It's really about being pragmatic, it's not about what license to choose based on an idealistic approach. I see a lot of good stuff in Microsoft licenses when it comes to patent language. There is an advantage there. Why choose one license versus another? Do you want to protectMar 02 06:05
twitterI should probably stop readingMar 02 06:05
twitterho ho, Shuttleworth has something to say about the Banshee dustup.  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-the-ubuntu-banshee-controversy-mistakes-were-made/8366  I should probably skip to the source and avoid a zdnet troll article.Mar 02 06:08
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twitterSorry to call you a troll, Nichols.  Mar 02 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A occhio il conflitto di attribuzioni non sta in piedi. Penso sia inammissibile. Almeno fino alla Cassazione, per almeno due ragioni.Mar 02 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter RT @Torontonamo: #G20 YouTube - (FULL MOVIE) G20 -CBC The Fifth Estate 'You Should've Stayed at Home' http://bit.ly/efO3leMar 02 06:09
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twitterYep, the zdnet page is painful for my browser.Mar 02 06:09
twitterThis one works much better ... http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/611Mar 02 06:09
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schestowitzI was told Mark 'trolled' the commentersMar 02 06:11
schestowitzWhich I found oddMar 02 06:11
schestowitzTrolling one's own blog?Mar 02 06:11
schestowitzPeople bark up Mark's treeMar 02 06:11
schestowitzHe should have never touched Novell junkMar 02 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @eff Security researcher @danwallach's notes from eavesdropping on his Android phone's Wi-Fi: https://eff.org/r.4zfMar 02 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] nighty night !identiverseMar 02 06:12
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twitterOh, was this the article you were talking about.  I'll have to read the comments too.  Mark's remarks are straight forward, a little tongue in cheek to the Windows press, but very reassuring as expected.  Mar 02 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @w3c 2011-Mar-01: Felix Sasaki, W3C Germany and Austria Office, gives a talk entitled: "Internationalization with XML" http://ow.ly/1byeHNMar 02 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad the dangers of the #cloud? you are not really in control... trust is hard to get on the Internet: http://ur1.ca/3d1h6 // #FogCompMar 02 06:14
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twitter-> "We know that we need a healthy and vibrant ecosystem of application developers. We think services should work for them too, and we’re committed to sharing revenue with them."Mar 02 06:14
twitterThis is very true ->The bulk of the direct cost in creating the audience of Ubuntu users is carried by Canonical. Mar 02 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Desktop Summit CFP announced and Registration open http://ur1.ca/3dc3c #linux #gnome #kde #desktopMar 02 06:15
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twitterThe guy has been mailing CDs free of charge for the better part of a decade.  They've done Freedom toasters for places without bandwith and I'm afraid of what their ISP bills look like elsewhere. Mar 02 06:16
twitterho ho, some trolling happened here but Shuttleworth forgives the person who did it ->  our position isn’t at all what was communicated. Our position is that we’ll deliver the best overall experience to users, we’ll derive services revenue from that, and we’ll share it with upstreams where we can attribute it efficiently. It wasn’t in the mandate of that person to offer a choice outside of that framework, but it was an honest misMar 02 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Canceled my #Bebo account tonight. #Orkut was last week. #Facebook by June 30th.Mar 02 06:19
twitterhe throws down a gauntlet and invites the Banshee people to take the money, fun. -> I think money generated by an app should go towards making that app rock even harder. But the offer stands for Banshee devs to take up if they’d like, and use as they’d like. If they don’t want it, we’ll put it to good use.Mar 02 06:20
twitterI'd rather that mono were dropped quietly.Mar 02 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Matt Blaze: The Internet could make academic scholarship more democratic, unless IEEE and ACM have their way. https://eff.org/r.5zhMar 02 06:20
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twitterperhaps it will beMar 02 06:20
neighborleeIt already has been..ubuntu just hasn't received the memo ;)Mar 02 06:21
sebsebsebtwitter: Banshee?  uhmm it's ok, but I really like Clementine now, but not tried last.fm with it yet, which I wonder a bit aboutMar 02 06:21
sebsebsebanyway Canonical wants to use open source projects now to make moneyMar 02 06:22
sebsebseband then share some of that money with some of those proejcts evenMar 02 06:22
sebsebsebalso I strongly belive that with enough donations, a 100% community distro, could be much more popular than Ubuntu is todayMar 02 06:22
sebsebsebyes 100% community as in with a non profit behind itMar 02 06:23
schestowitz[06:16] <twitter> The guy has been mailing CDs free of charge for the better part of a decade.  They've done Freedom toasters for places without bandwith and I'm afraid of what their ISP bills look like elsewhere. Mar 02 06:23
sebsebsebso the idea of the most popular distro of the time, needing a for profit company behind it, I really don't think is quite true, even though we live in a world that is very much so dominated by companies and making moneyMar 02 06:23
schestowitzyes, exactlyMar 02 06:23
sebsebsebalso going with what I just saidMar 02 06:24
sebsebsebwellMar 02 06:24
schestowitzI respect what he has done out of his own pocket, partly for PR (see Shuttleworth Foundation) but for the benefit of FOSS, e.g. to gain new migrantsMar 02 06:24
sebsebsebyes yes Canonical is a for profit company and all that, but really so far,  Ubuntu exists, because of Shuttleworth's donations?Mar 02 06:24
sebsebsebok they aren't really donations, but see what I am saying?Mar 02 06:24
schestowitzIt's a businessMar 02 06:25
schestowitzUbuntu is an investment, not a chairyMar 02 06:25
sebsebseband I was saying that I belive a distro can be number one, even if it was one with a non profit organisation behind it, and loads of donationsMar 02 06:25
schestowitzBut to have people invest in FOSS is goodMar 02 06:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ubuntu is a product not a projectMar 02 06:26
schestowitzEven if IBM and HP do soMar 02 06:26
schestowitzFOSS does need some investmentMar 02 06:26
schestowitz!google opensuse a novell product  not a projectMar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - openSUSE:Ambassador kit - openSUSE | http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassador_kitMar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Terms of site - openSUSE | http://en.opensuse.org/Terms_of_siteMar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The mouse does not work on a SLES vm on Hyper-V - NOVELL: Worldwide | http://www.novell.com/support/search.do%3Fcmd%3DdisplayKC%26docType%3Dkc%26externalId%3D7007947%26sliceId%3D1%26docTypeID%3DDT_TID_1_1Mar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Novell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NovellMar 02 06:26
schestowitz!google opensuse a novell product  not a project techrightsMar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - OpenSUSE | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/opensuse/Mar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - SLES/SLED | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/slessled/Mar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Stay Away from OpenSUSE 10.3 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2007/10/02/opensuse-103-release/Mar 02 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Novell 'agrees to be Acquired by Attachmate' for $2.2 Billion ... | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate/Mar 02 06:26
schestowitzStrangeMar 02 06:27
schestowitzThis was supposed to come up: http://techrights.org/2010/09/08/opensuse-full-time-novell-staff/Mar 02 06:27
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sebsebsebschestowitz: also anyone who voluntary contributes to Ubuntu, is working for a company for free, basicalleyMar 02 06:27
sebsebsebbe that programs specificaly made for Ubuntu such as UnityMar 02 06:28
sebsebseborMar 02 06:28
sebsebsebuser supportMar 02 06:28
schestowitzYes, I knowMar 02 06:28
schestowitzBut if it goes upstream, then it's no bg dealMar 02 06:28
sebsebseband well I am done with thatMar 02 06:28
sebsebsebI used to do itMar 02 06:28
schestowitzPeople need to collaborateMar 02 06:28
sebsebsebloads of online Ubuntu support, but not anymore, and it feels great :)Mar 02 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera So how long will the Nokia board give Elop to try and make a go of WP7 before they sack him and go with Meego or #android?Mar 02 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Matt Blaze: The Internet could make academic scholarship more democratic, unless IEEE and ACM have their way. https://eff.org/r.5zhMar 02 06:29
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schestowitzit's trick when people collaborate with corporations as though the latter are peopleMar 02 06:29
sebsebsebyep Ubuntu have loads of people fooledMar 02 06:29
sebsebseb,but more and more are starting to become less fooled now I thinkMar 02 06:29
sebsebsebUbuntu?  I guess I mean Canonical aboveMar 02 06:30
schestowitzDepends.Mar 02 06:30
schestowitzI think we're focusing on the wrong issue hereMar 02 06:30
schestowitzCanonical is not the problemMar 02 06:30
sebsebsebanyway oiaohm thinks Ubuntu has basically another three years as number one, and I am starting to hope he is right moreMar 02 06:30
schestowitzWe need to look at proprietary software, CPTN, patents, etc.Mar 02 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Emma_A: RT @safeworld4women: Only two member states, Somalia & the USA, have NOT ratified the Rights of the Child http://ow.ly/45cZEMar 02 06:30
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schestowitzDon't waste much time kicking a dead horse over the bans*** thingMar 02 06:30
sebsebsebI haven't read much of the Banshee thing :)Mar 02 06:31
schestowitzThey stir up civil warsMar 02 06:31
schestowitzIt's part of the planMar 02 06:31
sebsebsebreading to much stuff on the Banshee thing, would be wasting my timeMar 02 06:31
schestowitzSo that distracts from Microsoft/Apple as the problemMar 02 06:31
schestowitzAnd now the Linux community fights against UbuntuMar 02 06:31
schestowitzAnd Ballmer chokes on his food out of laughter, I bet...Mar 02 06:31
MinceRtwitter: do you think that no money that goes through the Ubuntu One store goes to RIAA? :>Mar 02 06:31
schestowitzRIAA doesn't get a dimeMar 02 06:32
schestowitzRIAA is a front groupMar 02 06:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ubuntu is going bad now really though, and more people are starting to reolise that, and well that's probably a good thing really, if loads of them go off to another distroMar 02 06:32
schestowitzIt's like saying that the BSA is the one cashing in on Office salesMar 02 06:32
schestowitzThe real bastards are SCOny, BMI, Warner...Mar 02 06:32
sebsebsebtrue those big for profit companies are the most nasty really, useuallyMar 02 06:33
MinceRschestowitz: making the RIAA a useful term as a set that encompasses themMar 02 06:33
schestowitzNoMar 02 06:33
schestowitzIt's not helpfulMar 02 06:33
schestowitzIt deceivesMar 02 06:33
schestowitzIt offloads the bad PRMar 02 06:33
sebsebsebwell Sun Microsystems was reasonably big, and they were alright weren't they?  ,but then yeah they get sold to Oracle which a lot of people weren't happy aboutMar 02 06:33
MinceRand some of that money does end up at RIAAMar 02 06:33
schestowitzJust as intendedMar 02 06:33
schestowitzRIAA is just lawyers and croniesMar 02 06:33
schestowitzOperated by the big MAFIAA playersMar 02 06:34
schestowitzThe copyright cartelMar 02 06:34
schestowitzOr maximalistsMar 02 06:34
schestowitzhttp://universalsubtitles.org/en/videos/P0gXrvqhXM9U/Mar 02 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad "No hacker activities, please. Pinging does more harm than needed!"Mar 02 06:35
sebsebsebOh yeah I was going to subscribe to gbraddMar 02 06:36
sebsebsebgbraadMar 02 06:36
schestowitzHe's coolMar 02 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HBGary members leave simply to avoid lawsuits for their crimes against humanity. http://ur1.ca/3dc6vMar 02 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MorganStanley hit by same attackers that breached Google http://ur1.ca/3dc7a show #hbgary leaksMar 02 06:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work.Mar 02 06:42
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twitterwow, I missed the whole conversation while reading Shuttleworth's blog.Mar 02 06:46
twitterLots of trolls injecting their/Microsoft's opinion there.Mar 02 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Submissions for Camp !KDE might still be welcome, I am told. So submit away and enjoy the Californian sun: http://camp.kde.org/ !fsfe !gnuMar 02 06:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gandroids: Breaking News : Motorola Working on 7-inch Tablet to Compliment XOOM http://tiny.ly/ywLEMar 02 06:47
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twitterMark's responses were all reasonable.  Who said he was trolling readers?  Mar 02 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Venkatesh Hariharan appears to have just left Red Hat and joined #Google #India as Head of Public Policy and Government Affairs (lobbying?)Mar 02 06:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65819106Mar 02 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Do free market capitalists honestly think that they are the answer to climate change and not the problem?Mar 02 06:52
schestowitztwitter: gnufreexMar 02 06:52
cubexyznot sure why ubuntu gets so much attentionMar 02 06:53
twitterI wonder what he had on his mind.  I saw a few curt replies, where Shuttleworth basically told people they were full of beans, that's about it.Mar 02 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Thorough article on conceptual flaws in Microsoft Exchange: http://is.gd/ZPBQdx Discover the alternative at #CeBIT http://is.gd/YJyg4a #DEMar 02 06:54
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twitterprobably because the rich founder makes for corporate friendly press stories, easy to focus on  -> cubexyz: not sure why ubuntu gets so much attentionMar 02 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera The west has cosied up to Gaddafi and dropped him like a hot brick the second they saw an advantage. Not because of principle.Mar 02 06:55
twitterPetroleum is not a free market, so I don't see free market capitalists as the main problem in global warming.  It's more a cooption of government by powerful companies that's the problem.  Mar 02 06:56
twitterMore subsidies, by orders of magnitudes, go to support petroleum companies than other energy sources. Mar 02 06:57
twitterThat's not counting road building efforts.Mar 02 06:57
schestowitzLinus recounts his night at the Oscars.... http://bit.ly/hoiXWJMar 02 06:57
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schestowitzIf RMS was invited, would he go?Mar 02 06:58
cubexyznoMar 02 06:58
twitterOscars?Mar 02 06:58
cubexyzdefinitely notMar 02 06:58
twitterWhy not?  I'm sure RMS would have a fun time with artists, who he respects, and has plenty to tell copyright minimalists about the benefits of sharing.  Mar 02 06:59
cubexyzhahaMar 02 06:59
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cubexyzand he could sing the software freedom songMar 02 07:00
twitterhe might get some interesting accompaniment Mar 02 07:01
schestowitzNaa...Mar 02 07:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, I agree with Red Hat after some thinkingMar 02 07:01
schestowitzOscar represent some of what's wrong with Western societyMar 02 07:01
DaemonFCit really doesn't affect anyone but OracleMar 02 07:01
schestowitzWhich is an outrageous thing to say if you live in the la-la land created by HollywoodMar 02 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera The diff between how China and USA spent/spend their wealth is interesting. One spent it it on wars the other on infrastructure.Mar 02 07:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: so they can say it out loudMar 02 07:03
DaemonFCAll the patches against Linux from Red Hat eventually end up upstreamed, the kernel tarball for RHEL is to make it obvious that Oracle doesn't know what they're claiming to supportMar 02 07:03
oiaohmsebsebseb: Note I said 3 to 4 years.  For Ubuntu to correct there path to doom.   It will take longer than that for them to fade away.Mar 02 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad saw something that #omgubuntu wanted to have a #debian column? time for a name change...Mar 02 07:04
DaemonFCfrom what I can tell it's working, since Oracle Linux can't claim to be 100% compatible with Red Hat unless  you use the RHEL compatible kernelMar 02 07:04
DaemonFCit forces them to admit they can't properly support their own distributionMar 02 07:04
oiaohmDaemonFC: Redhat ships more than 1 kernel.Mar 02 07:05
sebsebseboiaohm: oh?Mar 02 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] "The earliest dubstep releases date back to 10 B.C. (I KNOW CRAZY)" http://ur1.ca/3dcc6 #wubwubwubbbbwibwobbleMar 02 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @greve Thorough article on conceptual flaws in Microsoft Exchange http://is.gd/ZPBQdx Discover the alternative @ CeBIT http://is.gd/YJyg4aMar 02 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just got an update for my nexus one to go to 2.3.3 (Gingerbread). Hopefully it will work! #fbMar 02 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @themadhatter Aaron Barr Falls On His Sword - Anything To Protect The Company! http://bit.ly/e59Evo #HBGary #Anonymous #DarwinMar 02 07:05
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sebsebsebI thought you meant four years untill they are no longer #1Mar 02 07:05
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cubexyzoiaohm, unless you archive all source code any distro could dieMar 02 07:05
sebsebsebcubexyz: oh you got another nameMar 02 07:06
DaemonFCmost patches against Linux don't come out of RHEL or SLE*Mar 02 07:06
cubexyzthey are somewhat dependent on the internet itself for updatesMar 02 07:06
DaemonFCthey come from Fedora or OpenSuseMar 02 07:06
oiaohmsebsebseb: Its how far they get forked away from upstream.  Once you are far enough mantance becomes a huge issue.Mar 02 07:06
oiaohmsebsebseb: The path they are on is a slow painful death.Mar 02 07:06
DaemonFCoccasionally you see one come from an enterprise distribution, but not often, because they do most of their work on the community distroMar 02 07:07
cubexyzsebsebseb, on my FreeBSD boxMar 02 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RT @unclekish "It takes much more strength to control yourself than to control someone else." David Andrews. !qMar 02 07:07
oiaohmsebsebseb: and its not like  Canonical is as strong as when redhat or mandrake or SUSE made the mistake.Mar 02 07:08
sebsebseboiaohm: and Unity they are the upstreamMar 02 07:08
sebsebsebcubexyz: ohMar 02 07:08
cubexyzpackage manager can't phone home == distro deathMar 02 07:08
oiaohmsebsebseb: Upstream solo.Mar 02 07:08
cubexyzunless you archive all the source, then it's a bl3 type situationMar 02 07:08
oiaohmsebsebseb: with Unity. Mar 02 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Gaddafi challenges west to find money in his name anywhere outside Libya. He says if they can find any they can have halfMar 02 07:09
oiaohmsebsebseb: what basically makes them 100 percent libiable for how ever Unity stuffs up.Mar 02 07:09
sebsebseboiaohm: I guess quite a lot of newbies will like Unity, and the Ubuntu fan boys of course and people like that, but then many will like Gnome Shell as wellMar 02 07:09
sebsebseband I guess quite a lot will move on to Gnome Shell :)Mar 02 07:09
oiaohmsebsebseb: there is a major advantage of being a multi party upstream.Mar 02 07:09
DaemonFCSuse and RHEL used to have lots of outside patchesMar 02 07:09
oiaohmDaemonFC: And Suse and RHEL paid the price for it.Mar 02 07:09
oiaohmUbuntu is heading down exactly the same path Suse and RHEL have already done.Mar 02 07:10
DaemonFCmost of the stuff they patch moves too fast to fork *and* bring in upstream changesMar 02 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera USA now estimates that China owns 1/3 more of USA debt holdings than it previously realised.Mar 02 07:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: Remember SUSE and RHEL both have upstream first were able polices today.Mar 02 07:11
oiaohmRunning your own patches with upstream changing things become more and more costly and painful.Mar 02 07:11
oiaohmGoogle is also trying to slowly do away with there forked off kernels.Mar 02 07:12
oiaohmSimply due to the cost the forked off kernels cause.Mar 02 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera #RE Libya US spokesperson chastises Gaddafi for slaughtering civilians, but fails to mention her own countries far worse record.Mar 02 07:12
oiaohmsebsebseb: Next be problem with being solo is less auditing of the code base.Mar 02 07:13
oiaohm3 to 4 years all these issues are going to start to come to a head.Mar 02 07:13
twitterI can vouch for this http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/thick-foam-found-mobile-bay-orange-substance-many-areas-photosMar 02 07:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana If a dictator has 30+bn$ he has stolen at least 29.99bn$. "Thief" isn't quite enough. "Murderer" sounds better. #justsayingMar 02 07:14
twitterGulf is still a mess.  Mar 02 07:14
sebsebseboiaohm: 2014, and Ubuntu has been around 10 yearsMar 02 07:14
sebsebsebwell end of October 2014Mar 02 07:14
twitterDead baby dolphins washing up on shore is bad news for people who live near the water and eat the fish.Mar 02 07:14
DaemonFCIf an upstream does something Google doesn't like, they just fork it and bury the fork in their applicationMar 02 07:14
DaemonFCChrome is like thatMar 02 07:14
oiaohmAnyone who has used Ubuntu from the start has notices graudal but sure reduction on ubuntu quality.  sebsebsebMar 02 07:15
sebsebseboiaohm: I have used it since the second releaseMar 02 07:15
sebsebsebI should virtual machine  the first release, but haven't bothered yetMar 02 07:16
oiaohmsebsebseb: Stablity compared to the second release to now.Mar 02 07:16
sebsebsebmore likeMar 02 07:16
sebsebsebjunk features compared to the old releasesMar 02 07:16
sebsebsebjunk features as in those, that try and make the distro more user friendly to newbiesMar 02 07:16
sebsebseband that aren't upstream of courseMar 02 07:16
oiaohmAnd do those features work right.Mar 02 07:16
sebsebseband money making services for Canonical as wellMar 02 07:16
twittergn, it's time for me to sleep. Mar 02 07:16
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sebsebsebloads of that in 10.04Mar 02 07:17
oiaohmsebsebseb: If you look closely those junk features are stacking up.Mar 02 07:17
sebsebsebthe stuff I just mentioend,  does Ubuntu One work right?  don't know not used it myself :)Mar 02 07:17
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sebsebsebhad the client open, but without using an account on it, that doesn't go very far,  same for looking in the music storeMar 02 07:17
oiaohmsebsebseb: And if you chart it over versions.  Mar 02 07:17
sebsebseb9.04 is where Ubuntu started going bad for meMar 02 07:18
oiaohmThe rate of junk features that don't work right is accelerating.Mar 02 07:18
sebsebseband then it just kept on getting worseMar 02 07:18
sebsebsebover allMar 02 07:18
oiaohmSee you are seeing the same thing I am charting out.Mar 02 07:18
sebsebsebthe GNome patchingMar 02 07:18
sebsebseband then money making services in 10.04 that I didn't wantMar 02 07:18
sebsebsebthe Ubuntu Software Centre in 9.10 I didn't want thatMar 02 07:18
oiaohm3 to 4 years if they keep on doing what they are doing the distribution will basically become unworkable.Mar 02 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. 2.3.3 seems nice. Keypad is much improved. #fbMar 02 07:19
sebsebseband now the next big one is Unity, which is okish from trying, as in the 10.10 version and 11.04 alpha 1 sucked,  but from what I seen of recent Unity,  I understand why certian people will like it, but again not something I want reallyMar 02 07:19
sebsebsebat last it turns some of those horrible Gnome patches into something interestingMar 02 07:19
sebsebsebsince now a new proper interface, not GNome patchesMar 02 07:20
oiaohmNotice for unity support they are putting third party patches in openoffice firefox and others.Mar 02 07:20
sebsebseboiaohm: if they carry on going like they are now, they will lose more and more expereinced users who used the distro from years ago, as they go onMar 02 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @richslxh "A Remote Access Trojan (RAT) for Windows, known as darkComet, has been ported to Mac OS X" http://ur1.ca/3d3gwMar 02 07:20
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oiaohmJust spreeding the reciepty for failure.Mar 02 07:20
sebsebseboiaohm: and lose as in people who actsauly properly use the distro, not just still try it out sometimes like I do, in a virtual machineMar 02 07:21
oiaohmsebsebseb:  What happens when you are all newbie.Mar 02 07:21
sebsebsebin fact I ma hoping I won't have to install Ubuntu on real hardware ever again :) and just virtual machine try, if I want to try Unity or whateverMar 02 07:21
oiaohmWhere are you going to get new package maintainers from.   sebsebsebMar 02 07:21
oiaohmRemember a percentage have to be replaced every year.Mar 02 07:21
sebsebseboiaohm: yep if they annoy enough of the expereinced users, they are pretty much buggeredMar 02 07:21
cubexyzpeople still run retro OS'sMar 02 07:22
cubexyzeven proprietary retro OS'sMar 02 07:22
sebsebseb1. they will lose developers 2.  they may even lose quite a lot of Canonical empoyees.  3.  newbies tend to use what they are told to use, but if the expereinced users aren't recommending Ubuntu, then they won't go Ubuntu a lot of themMar 02 07:22
oiaohm3 to 4 years before they will be buggered past the point of no return.  sebsebsebMar 02 07:22
oiaohmNow lets say the apply some correct policies now.Mar 02 07:22
oiaohmThey could still turn the disaster around.Mar 02 07:23
cubexyzI even know one diehard who runs 1/2" magnetic tape drivesMar 02 07:23
sebsebseboiaohm: April 2013 well a bit before that, is when it's time to find another distro for my brother's lap top, if it last's that long hardwarewiseMar 02 07:23
cubexyzreel to reel :)Mar 02 07:23
sebsebsebit's rather dusty inside right nowMar 02 07:23
sebsebsebfor exampleMar 02 07:23
sebsebseboiaohm: in the mean time it runs LInux Mint 9 based on Ubuntu 10.04Mar 02 07:23
sebsebsebthe distro and version of the distro I decided to go with in the endMar 02 07:23
sebsebseboiaohm: he's just a consumer reallyMar 02 07:24
sebsebsebuses what is set up for him, uses Firefox and that's about it useuallyMar 02 07:24
sebsebseboiaohm: at least he's doing security updates for Mint now :)Mar 02 07:24
sebsebsebit seemsMar 02 07:24
sebsebsebhad to tell him how to do that thoughMar 02 07:24
oiaohmyear 2000 Redhat had almost buggered self with maintainer load past no return.Mar 02 07:26
oiaohmBut these days Fedora and Redhat enterprise is very healthy.Mar 02 07:26
oiaohmSo Ubuntu has 2 paths.  One that will kill them and One that will save them.Mar 02 07:26
oiaohmthe question is.  Will Ubuntu be smart enough to switch to the right path.Mar 02 07:27
sebsebsebI guess let Canonical mess up, plenty of decent alternative distro's out there, for newbies and experienced users :)  PC LInux OS, Mandriva, and I would say even Mageia in it's alpha 1 state :D  which isn't meant to be used by loads of people as you knowMar 02 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody RT @MrAlanCooper @codinghorror Every time a software patent is registered, an angel is bludgeoned to death with a shoe.Mar 02 07:27
oiaohmRemember Fedora is more stable than Ubuntu in usage these days.Mar 02 07:27
oiaohmWhen Ubuntu started it was the other way over.Mar 02 07:27
cubexyzFedora is good, yesMar 02 07:27
sebsebseband Fedora well if people can get passed the installing codecsMar 02 07:27
sebsebsebthen sure that's alright for many as wellMar 02 07:27
DaemonFCwhat's so hard about that?Mar 02 07:28
oiaohmReally if a production release is less stable than fedora you are doing something wrong.Mar 02 07:28
oiaohmFedora is a test ground.Mar 02 07:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: got to use RPMfushion add the repo and uhMar 02 07:28
DaemonFCthey provide RPMs that set up the reposMar 02 07:28
cubexyzahem, I've seen uptimes longer than a year on FC1Mar 02 07:28
cubexyznot bad for a "test" systemMar 02 07:29
DaemonFCand after that it's just a matter of installing some gstreamer and other packagesMar 02 07:29
sebsebsebcubexyz: yhou did changes to it yourself thoughMar 02 07:29
cubexyzthat's trueMar 02 07:29
oiaohmsebsebseb: Fedora will be legally shiping with MP3 playback next year.Mar 02 07:29
sebsebsebFedora Core 2 and 4  I coudn't use back in 2004 and 4 I guess both  years for 2Mar 02 07:29
sebsebseb,butMar 02 07:29
sebsebsebwellMar 02 07:29
sebsebsebOpen Office :)Mar 02 07:29
oiaohmsebsebseb: Ie play back patent will die.Mar 02 07:29
sebsebsebuhMar 02 07:30
sebsebsebaboveMar 02 07:30
sebsebsebI coudn't use online, that was meant to sayMar 02 07:30
sebsebsebstupid wireless device because... anyway probably said this here beforeMar 02 07:30
sebsebsebso anyway for what I could use it for, Gnome yep, and Open Office, and such, it was good :)Mar 02 07:30
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sebsebsebnice Redhat logo it had as well :)Mar 02 07:30
cubexyzI'm researching an article about truly "free as in beer" internetMar 02 07:31
cubexyzof course, you need a transceiver or a phone line and modemMar 02 07:31
cubexyznot too many people think about packet radioMar 02 07:32
MinceRdoes wifi qualify? :>Mar 02 07:33
MinceRor GPRS? :>Mar 02 07:33
cubexyznot sure yetMar 02 07:33
DaemonFCearlier Fedora releases were only useful if you disabled SELinux, also known as waiting 4 hours for it to unlabel your file systemMar 02 07:34
DaemonFCalso worth noting that SELinux is now mostly well behaved and has a negligible impact on performanceMar 02 07:34
cubexyzwith ax.25 you could get a free serviceMar 02 07:35
cubexyzand with netzero you can get free dialupMar 02 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @greve Thorough article on conceptual flaws in Microsoft Exchange: http://is.gd/ZPBQdx Discover the alternative at #CeBIT http://is.g ...Mar 02 07:35
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DaemonFCSELinux has more of a negative impact on Ext3 than it does on Ext4 or XFSMar 02 07:35
DaemonFCbefore Ext4, you had to use XFS if you wanted to avoid thatMar 02 07:36
DaemonFCyou can use Ext3 mounted with the Ext4 driver with extents disabled if you're really worried about Ext4 eating your data but want better performance than the Ext3 driver gives youMar 02 07:37
DaemonFCExt3 is really ridiculous in that it has to call the block allocator hundreds of thousands of times for a typical file operationMar 02 07:40
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 07:40
*DaemonFC won't use a file system without extentsMar 02 07:40
*cubexyz just uses ext2 most of the timeMar 02 07:41
cubexyzand rsync for backupsMar 02 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @smokku: I uploaded a YouTube video -- Widelands for #MeeGo Tablet http://youtu.be/7-8n-JXeegs?aMar 02 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gijs Romania's government ignoring the fledgling floss community http://ur1.ca/3cuwtMar 02 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gijs Vendor independent desktops for government HOWTO http://www.osor.eu/news/zaragoza-spains-public-sector-major-driver-open-source ...Mar 02 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @vgrade: http://twitpic.com/44r7yt vega meego #MeeGo #AdventVegaMar 02 07:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at NetCologne GK-Büro Bonn http://b1t.it/byn #4sqMar 02 07:50
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTE1OAMar 02 08:00
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DaemonFCshould note that for this to be useful you need at least Linux 2.6.28-rc6, and a version of Mesa 7.11 devel from the last weekMar 02 08:00
DaemonFCotherwise Mesa won't support it (for Radeons anyway), and the Linux command stream checker won't let it workMar 02 08:01
DaemonFCI think in Ubuntu, the Mesa it ships with refuses to load the S3TC library, but the version from Xorg-Edgers PPA will load itMar 02 08:02
DaemonFCthe default Mesa even in Natty is too old to use it on r600 anywayMar 02 08:02
DaemonFCthe open source graphics stack now depends on particular version of 8-9 different components to work optimallyMar 02 08:03
DaemonFCand a stiff breeze could knock it overMar 02 08:03
DaemonFCwho is going to compile kernel and live on GIT pulls from Mesa and X.org just so they can get S3TC texture support, which already works in FGLRX and nvidia anyway?Mar 02 08:04
DaemonFC(and if you don't have it, a lot of games simply won't work or will have texture corruptionMar 02 08:05
DaemonFCthey might as well just say if your kernel, Mesa, and X are more than a week old, your video hardware is useless without the proprietary driverMar 02 08:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: wrong mesa ships with Ubuntu will load the S3TC lib for at least intel cards.Mar 02 08:09
oiaohmOk performance complete dog at about 3 to 5 frame per second but it loads.Mar 02 08:09
oiaohmMesa 7.11 will work on older kernels.  DaemonFCMar 02 08:10
DaemonFCit loads, just to show you it barely works and point you towards FGLRXMar 02 08:10
DaemonFC*my experienceMar 02 08:10
DaemonFCyeah, but without the latest kernel, you miss page flipping and other stuffMar 02 08:10
DaemonFCon EvergreenMar 02 08:10
oiaohmThat is only a problem if you have a evergreen card.Mar 02 08:11
DaemonFCI didn't say it won't work, I said it won't work wellMar 02 08:11
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 08:11
DaemonFCactually, it affects Radeon HD 4000, 5000, and 6000 usersMar 02 08:12
DaemonFC6000 users may not even get anything but framebuffer without Linux 2.6.38Mar 02 08:12
DaemonFCeven with the latest everything, all that gets them is KMS and 2d accelerationMar 02 08:12
oiaohmNo there is basic 2.1 opengl working as well DaemonFCMar 02 08:13
DaemonFCfor the average user that's unacceptable, all it means is now their boot screen doesn't flicker and they don't have to watch the screen redraw as they move windows aroundMar 02 08:13
DaemonFCCompiz and games are out of the questionMar 02 08:13
DaemonFCor anything using accelerated OpenGLMar 02 08:14
oiaohmNoMar 02 08:14
oiaohmCompiz works quite well with 2.1 opengl in the randion drivers.Mar 02 08:14
DaemonFCnot on the 6000 seriesMar 02 08:14
oiaohmGames yes only have 2.1 opengl can be kinda a issue.Mar 02 08:14
DaemonFCand barely on 5000Mar 02 08:14
oiaohm2.1 opengl is working on the 6000 series.Mar 02 08:14
oiaohmNote the card support 4.1Mar 02 08:14
DaemonFCon 5000 series you need Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11-dev, latest libdrm, etc.Mar 02 08:15
oiaohmclosed source driver gives 4.1Mar 02 08:15
DaemonFCand you have to force gallium onMar 02 08:15
DaemonFCand color tilingMar 02 08:15
DaemonFCand force vsync offMar 02 08:15
oiaohmcolor tiling is not required for opengl 2.1Mar 02 08:15
DaemonFCthen compositor works decentlyMar 02 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identverse :) Today I will be mostly doing inter-mysql imports and exports.Mar 02 08:15
DaemonFCthe open source driver starves the GPUMar 02 08:16
DaemonFCso with vsync on you kill half of the performance you could haveMar 02 08:16
DaemonFCwhich is still only like 1/4th of FGLRXMar 02 08:16
oiaohmBut you cannot say its 2d only.Mar 02 08:16
oiaohmAnymore.Mar 02 08:16
oiaohmits 2d with suxing 3d.Mar 02 08:17
oiaohmbut its 3d that still kinda works.Mar 02 08:17
DaemonFCyou have to turn vsync off just to manage screen refresh parity with compiz or kwin effectsMar 02 08:17
cubexyzuh, so what would you say is the best video card for linux?Mar 02 08:17
oiaohmcubexyz: all sux in there own way.Mar 02 08:17
DaemonFCcubexyz, Radeon X1800 XT apparentlyMar 02 08:17
DaemonFCthe old cards work fineMar 02 08:17
oiaohmIntel suxs the worst.Mar 02 08:17
oiaohmDaemonFC: ?  Intel old cards work?Mar 02 08:18
oiaohmOld ATI work quite resonable.Mar 02 08:18
DaemonFCthe X1800 XT, from like, what? 2004/5 works at 3 times the speed of my RadeonHD 5670Mar 02 08:18
DaemonFCwith free driversMar 02 08:18
*cubexyz buys an amigaMar 02 08:18
DaemonFCthat's obsceneMar 02 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introducing FigShare: a new way to share open scientific data - http://bit.ly/fjhHyC cool idea #opendata #scienceMar 02 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Sony PlayStation 3 Imports Temporarily Banned In Europe http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/28/playstation-3-lg-legal-disputeMar 02 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Call for Participation: joint conference organised by the GNOME & KDE communities in Berlin - http://bit.ly/hqXZ5Y good see it's joint againMar 02 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why the Open Internet Is Worth Saving - http://bit.ly/iiO94J interesting book reviews by @evgenymorozov #netneutralityMar 02 08:19
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DaemonFCthe X.org/Mesa people are off getting 10 year old Voodoo cards up and runningMar 02 08:19
DaemonFCand my RadeonHD is a brick with their driversMar 02 08:19
oiaohmDaemonFC:  But the brick status is decreasing.Mar 02 08:19
cubexyzok, so which video card sucks the least? :)Mar 02 08:20
DaemonFCcubexyz, Anything supported by r300g seems to be your best bet if you want open source driversMar 02 08:20
oiaohmr300g have more age in development.Mar 02 08:21
oiaohmBut stay away from just a R300 card.Mar 02 08:21
oiaohmPower management on a R300 is not ideal.Mar 02 08:21
DaemonFCthat means nothing on a desktopMar 02 08:21
DaemonFCand dynamic power management in r600g is a performance killerMar 02 08:22
oiaohmthis is also part themal management.Mar 02 08:22
DaemonFCthe manpage even warns you not to turn it onMar 02 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Astrid-Lindgren-Schule http://b1t.it/byC #4sqMar 02 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Open source expert takes on the hardest job at Microsoft http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030111-microsoft-rabellino.htmlMar 02 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US: UK not doing enough in #Afghanistan - http://bit.ly/e0v7rb fascinating #wikileaks cable revealing that the Yanks think UK are slackersMar 02 08:22
oiaohmPower management in r300g drivers work very well infact.Mar 02 08:22
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oiaohmParticularly on R400 and R500 where it clocks down ram bays not being used.  DaemonFCMar 02 08:22
oiaohmOn the video card.Mar 02 08:22
DaemonFChttp://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs_11.4_dev#openSUSE_11.4_RC2Mar 02 08:23
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DaemonFCI tried RC1Mar 02 08:23
DaemonFCKDE desktop is beautifulMar 02 08:23
DaemonFCthe GNOME desktop is so buggy that it was unusableMar 02 08:23
DaemonFCCompiz makes all the widgets on the panels disappear with FGLRXMar 02 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 2.6.38-rc7 http://bit.ly/f9ffbu "There really isn't a lot to report here. [..] Regressions fixed, hopefully none introduced."Mar 02 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @vgrade: #intel #meego #tablet source release. http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-March/481782.htmlMar 02 08:24
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DaemonFCthe update that fixes that destroys cube rotation and deformation :)Mar 02 08:24
DaemonFCoiaohm, one of the transparent hugepage release notes says it pisses FGLRX offMar 02 08:24
cubexyzsometimes older is betterMar 02 08:25
DaemonFCthough I haven't had trouble with itMar 02 08:25
cubexyzI still see people raving about Amiga 1000 on youtubeMar 02 08:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: compiz not working.Mar 02 08:25
DaemonFCI backported that to 2.6.37.2Mar 02 08:25
oiaohmDaemonFC:  to be correct FGLRX + compiz + transpartent hugepageMar 02 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @donttrythis I finally broke out Mitnick's business card lockpicks. Couldn't get into the car though. Sad. http://plixi.com/p/80960909Mar 02 08:25
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Equals what the moments.Mar 02 08:25
DaemonFCno problem there eitherMar 02 08:25
DaemonFCat least on DebianMar 02 08:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: It will turn up.Mar 02 08:26
oiaohmDaemonFC: as with most compiz errors they are race condition based.Mar 02 08:26
DaemonFCso, hard to reproduceMar 02 08:26
DaemonFCeven if you're tryingMar 02 08:26
oiaohmWhen you know how not hard.Mar 02 08:26
oiaohmBut they are like for end users winning the unlucky loto.Mar 02 08:27
oiaohmAnd once person starts winning that they normally win it many times in a row.Mar 02 08:27
DaemonFCFirefox does not ask before closing a window with multiple tabs, even if it is configured to do it, Bug #669231Mar 02 08:27
DaemonFChad that one on every Firefox 4 build I've tried unless I built it myselfMar 02 08:27
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 08:27
DaemonFCFirefox actually doesn't fail horribly for me when using -O3 -march=amdfam10Mar 02 08:28
DaemonFCI've heard of both of those provoking bugsMar 02 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I need a website to explain me explainxkcd http://www.explainxkcd.com/2011/02/28/compass-and-straightedge/Mar 02 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Gah, can't anyone spell right these days? Bloody illiterate people.Mar 02 08:29
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DaemonFCOpenSuse has Lilo?Mar 02 08:29
DaemonFCdamnMar 02 08:29
DaemonFCthere's no upstream for that at all anymoreMar 02 08:29
DaemonFCI used to use LILO to work around some GRUB stupidity that has been patched since Mar 02 08:30
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oiaohmDaemonFC: what are you talking about.  http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/Mar 02 08:30
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oiaohmlilo is still mainatained and upated.Mar 02 08:30
DaemonFClast I checked it was notMar 02 08:30
DaemonFCtheir homepage was downMar 02 08:30
oiaohmWere you going to the new debian site or the old site.Mar 02 08:31
oiaohmThe old site has been not maintained like for 3 years.Mar 02 08:31
DaemonFCMandriva lets you choose LILO, so I used to choose that to get it to boot with XFSMar 02 08:31
DaemonFCGRUB would seize up when running update-grubMar 02 08:31
DaemonFCeven if it succeeded after first install, that's no guarantee it always wouldMar 02 08:31
oiaohmlilo is better for a few embeded usages as well.Mar 02 08:32
DaemonFCI rigged Anaconda to let me use XFS for everything on FedoraMar 02 08:32
DaemonFCit's no longer a problem with GRUB, but Anaconda will stop youMar 02 08:33
DaemonFCXFS doesn't make you reserve anything on its partitions because if it gets fragmented you can just defragment itMar 02 08:34
DaemonFCit takes a lot of effort to get it that bad thoughMar 02 08:34
DaemonFCthe only defragment option on Ext4 is still format the partitionMar 02 08:35
DaemonFCso it reserves 50 gigs or soMar 02 08:35
DaemonFCa side effect of the reserved space is if an idiot gets tricked (Ubuntu) into unpacking a decompression bomb, they can still boot and clean up the mess, maybeMar 02 08:36
DaemonFCassuming user is competent to do thatMar 02 08:36
DaemonFCmore likely they'll freak and not know what to doMar 02 08:36
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #Facebook Linked To One In Five Divorces in the United States http://ur1.ca/3dcv8 I guess it's complicated...Mar 02 08:37
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Incorrect shake defrag works on Ext4Mar 02 08:37
DaemonFCfull volume defrag while mounted?Mar 02 08:38
DaemonFClike xfs_fsr?Mar 02 08:38
DaemonFCunmounting a partition to defragment it is ridiculousMar 02 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Ericsson Labs continues work on !HTML5 voice/video chat! Now peer-to-peer! http://redd.it/fvobn !webkit !gtk !openvideoMar 02 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] WUB WUBBBB wobble wub weiiiiib wob WOBBBBMar 02 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... This is the best thing anybody build in !Minecraft ever! Oo http://forums.linuxoutlaws.com/download/file.php?id=952 !loMar 02 08:57
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Mandriva-2011-Alpha-2-Released-Screenshot-Tour-186936.shtmlMar 02 08:57
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DaemonFCSoftpedia has a screenshot tour of Alpha 2Mar 02 08:57
DaemonFCthat was fastMar 02 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Is Mozilla Open-By-Rule?: Mozilla Host to the Firefox browser and the Thunderbird mail client among many other... http://wmk.me/ewPAaHMar 02 09:07
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oiaohmDaemonFC:   http://vleu.net/shake/Mar 02 09:09
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oiaohmDaemonFC: shake exploits features of the Linux filesystem subsystem.Mar 02 09:09
oiaohmDaemonFC: So yes its generic and yes it does not need special sys calls or even high level permissions.Mar 02 09:10
DaemonFCit tells me resource is locked on almost every fileMar 02 09:10
oiaohmFile system has xattr enabled?  DaemonFCMar 02 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fitts Is An Interesting "Big Buttons" Metacity Theme http://bit.ly/hpnxMFMar 02 09:12
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oiaohmxattr disabled it will compain but still work.Mar 02 09:12
MinceRgeekingsMar 02 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Herpetology http://xkcd.com/867/Mar 02 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: 5 Incredible !Android Tablets Showcased at Mobile World Congress 2011 http://goo.gl/H5lAdMar 02 09:15
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oiaohmBasically there is more than 1 way to skin a cat.   shake is the other way to defrag.  I have had to use shake defrag method on windows when it was that far fragmented on a drive MS defrag api would just fail.Mar 02 09:16
DaemonFCthe mount option for that is user_xattr on ext4 isn't it?Mar 02 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Unity (the game development tool, not the UI of ubuntu natty) not to boost gaming on !Android, and bring quality ports http://goo.gl/IkdjpMar 02 09:17
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DaemonFCit looks like this and acls will be default on in 2.6.38 anywayMar 02 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Upstart Development Blog: Upstart 1.0 “This is a fertile land, and we will thrive” released http://goo.gl/X4b5DMar 02 09:19
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MinceR"Our candidate to the longest release code name ever" releasedMar 02 09:19
DaemonFCUpstartMar 02 09:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: user_xattr exists on ext2 up.Mar 02 09:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: XFS also had user_xattr fist.Mar 02 09:20
oiaohmfist/firstMar 02 09:20
DaemonFCthe simple, straightforward, and totally pointless way to run SysVInit scripts without multithreading while claiming that multithreading and event-driven logic is possible, MinceR Mar 02 09:21
DaemonFCversion 1.0Mar 02 09:21
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:21
oiaohmIts going to be fun to see how long Ubuntu stays with Upstart.Mar 02 09:21
DaemonFCit basically is SysVInit with fun new bugs the way they're using itMar 02 09:21
oiaohmWith most other things going systemdMar 02 09:21
DaemonFCsystemd, I'm not sure of eitherMar 02 09:22
MinceR:>Mar 02 09:22
DaemonFCfrom the guy that brought us pulseaudioMar 02 09:22
DaemonFCwhat could go wrong now that he's writing our init daemon? :)Mar 02 09:22
MinceRlolMar 02 09:23
DaemonFCMinceR, It's 10 PM, do you know where YOUR PID 1 is?Mar 02 09:23
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Brrr, my #nescafé turned cold... :/Mar 02 09:24
oiaohmReally he wrote other things before pulseaudio.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:24
DaemonFCdo some of them work?Mar 02 09:24
oiaohmEverything else works  DaemonFCMar 02 09:24
oiaohmPulseaudio was one of his record goofsMar 02 09:24
DaemonFCyou know those crazy parent processes, they get old and senile and wander offMar 02 09:24
DaemonFCyou find them in a dumpster barking at the moon, naked, throwing pooMar 02 09:25
oiaohmsystemd is designed to be able to hunt them down.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:25
DaemonFCscary that Upstart and systemd are replacing thisMar 02 09:25
oiaohmsystemd is taking advantage of cgroups.Mar 02 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dear Rep. Franklin: I Submit My Used Tampons as Evidence - http://bit.ly/eb5MdC politicians behinds this have serious problems with realityMar 02 09:25
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oiaohmTo track lost processes down.Mar 02 09:25
oiaohmSo yes when you stop a service.  Every darn bit of it will stop under systemd.Mar 02 09:26
DaemonFCthat's why Mandriva backported the cgroups stuff from .38 to .37Mar 02 09:26
oiaohmNoMar 02 09:26
DaemonFCproprietary drivers will still build and you get the number one feature of .38Mar 02 09:26
oiaohmcgroup stuff for tracking.Mar 02 09:26
oiaohmhas been on since 2.6.24Mar 02 09:26
oiaohmcgroups for tracking processes is very old and mature.Mar 02 09:26
oiaohmJust under used.Mar 02 09:26
DaemonFCI've never really used itMar 02 09:27
DaemonFCthe kernel documentation says if undure, say noMar 02 09:27
DaemonFC*unsureMar 02 09:27
DaemonFCI leave it on anyway, it shouldn't harm anything even if it just sits there unusedMar 02 09:27
oiaohmcgroups for real-time and other things appears in .38Mar 02 09:27
DaemonFCthey really need to dust the kernel out, but I see they're dumping a lot of ancient drivers that don't get any love for 2.6.39Mar 02 09:28
DaemonFCmainly old serial and parallel port crapMar 02 09:28
oiaohmSome of that crap is migrating.Mar 02 09:28
oiaohmTo userspace drivers.Mar 02 09:28
oiaohmNot like a serial/parallel port stuff need that much high speed.Mar 02 09:29
DaemonFCif you look at linux-next you see that they're shaving off thousands of lines of code by ditching old drivers that nobody uses anymoreMar 02 09:29
DaemonFCthere's some really arcane shit in thereMar 02 09:29
oiaohmIe some of that is not that no body uses.Mar 02 09:29
oiaohmIt works fine in Userspace its a risk to kernel and it don't need performance of kernel.  Ok why in heck is it in kernel.Mar 02 09:30
DaemonFCMandriva strikes me as weird, sort of a change of subjectMar 02 09:30
oiaohmThat right when those drivers were writen.Mar 02 09:30
oiaohmLinux userspace drivers support did not exist.Mar 02 09:30
DaemonFCthey ship half of GNOME in their KDE desktop, they advice that you use Compiz in preference to KWinMar 02 09:30
oiaohmIe some is sanity correction.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Bing doing a better job than #Google on torrents? - http://bit.ly/eWB6dL go, Microsoft...Mar 02 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Mozilla Open-By-Rule? - http://bit.ly/hPKchJ fascinating stuff #opensourceMar 02 09:30
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DaemonFCthey seem to enjoy setting up KDE to mimic KDE 3Mar 02 09:30
DaemonFC*adviseMar 02 09:31
oiaohmMandriva still has not grown up yet.Mar 02 09:31
DaemonFCI see a lot of their old crap making its way into 2011Mar 02 09:31
oiaohmAnd it still over tampering releases.Mar 02 09:31
MinceRcan they mimic its stability too? :>Mar 02 09:31
DaemonFCthose Drake utilities are terribleMar 02 09:31
DaemonFCthey interfere with the modern way you set up hardwareMar 02 09:32
DaemonFCyou can tell they were written to try to cover up ugliness that no longer really exists and now  they just cause problems of their ownMar 02 09:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: You are looking at what will happen to Ubuntu in time in MandrivaMar 02 09:33
oiaohmPeople forget Mandrake(where Mandriva started) Had exactly the same goal as ubuntu.Mar 02 09:33
DaemonFCleftovers from trying to pimp their ride that they can't seem to get rid of even though Upstream has left them eating dust?Mar 02 09:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:33
MinceRto make a stable debian-based distro release every 6 months? :>Mar 02 09:34
MinceRor to push m$ agenda and stupid crApple-like GUI ideas? :>Mar 02 09:34
DaemonFCMinceR, You could make a stable Debian-based release every 6 monthsMar 02 09:34
DaemonFCbase it on TestingMar 02 09:34
oiaohmMandrake forked off redhat.  Same kind of idea.  MinceRMar 02 09:34
MinceR:>Mar 02 09:34
DaemonFCUbuntu pulls from Experimental and Sid and even makes their own packages and patchesMar 02 09:34
oiaohmEven worse.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:35
DaemonFCthat's the surefire way to kill your Debian systemMar 02 09:35
DaemonFCeven if it appears to work OK for a whileMar 02 09:35
oiaohmSome packages in ubuntu are straight pulled from the git tips of projects then patched.Mar 02 09:35
DaemonFCmixing and matching repos is something you should do as little of as possibleMar 02 09:35
oiaohmNever touched debian at all.Mar 02 09:35
oiaohmThen people wonders why there are problem.Mar 02 09:35
DaemonFCexample, I had to pull in my video drivers from Sid, which means I had to pull in an entire X.org Server stackMar 02 09:36
DaemonFCis that X.org server stack buggy? I'll find out eventuallyMar 02 09:36
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:36
DaemonFCthe more you do stuff like that the more unknowns you introduce until your system collapsesMar 02 09:36
oiaohmYes the rules of making a stable distributions that are truly stable are not hard.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:37
oiaohmMostly common sense.  Pitty common sense is so rare.Mar 02 09:37
DaemonFCpeople see all the shiny new toys in Sid and Experimental then complain that they broke something by pulling a bunch of stuff inMar 02 09:37
oiaohmI do run a few things from sidMar 02 09:38
oiaohmBut they are kinda selected carefully.Mar 02 09:38
DaemonFCif you want to use Sid, use Sid, don't use Stable and pull in this and that every time you want a new package of somethingMar 02 09:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: My system is a mixed bag.Mar 02 09:38
DaemonFCI usually advise that people use Testing if they ask my opinion of DebianMar 02 09:38
oiaohmMostly debian testing.Mar 02 09:38
oiaohmWith some debian stable.Mar 02 09:39
DaemonFCuse Testing and be happyMar 02 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] News Flash: Your Music Is Not Your Product - http://bit.ly/e5bNFi another musician gets it (v @mclduk @alsothings @debcha)Mar 02 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Very Rich Indie Writer - http://bit.ly/hdXOx2 not your parents' self-publishing #businessmodels #ebooksMar 02 09:39
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oiaohmAnd a very small touch of sidMar 02 09:39
oiaohmFor particular items where I do need the latest for particular features.Mar 02 09:39
DaemonFCStable is too old and Sid can eat babies whenever it likesMar 02 09:39
MinceRperhaps for most of these bleeding edge features chroot installs could be usedMar 02 09:39
DaemonFCTesting is a nice way to get newish features without risking muchMar 02 09:39
MinceRkeep the base system on Stable and pull a less stable version into a chroot if something needs itMar 02 09:39
oiaohmI have a few items where I need old.   DaemonFCMar 02 09:39
oiaohmBut I don't expect a new person to pull of what I do.Mar 02 09:40
DaemonFCwell, unfortunately I've had to open up Sid and Experimental through Apt-PinningMar 02 09:40
oiaohmIe over 14 years of experense doing it means I can do it safely.Mar 02 09:40
DaemonFCit lets me grab IceWeasel 4 and latest FGLRXMar 02 09:40
DaemonFCthat's really all I takeMar 02 09:40
oiaohmSee minor splash.Mar 02 09:41
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DaemonFCnever ever pull in something that replaces system libraries unless you're pretty sure of what you're up toMar 02 09:41
DaemonFC(or lots of dependencies in general)Mar 02 09:41
oiaohmIf you are looking at more than 1 to 2 percent of you system on sid you are asking for it.Mar 02 09:41
DaemonFCyeah, I would just grab Firefox upstream binaries, but Iceweasel is sooooo much nicerMar 02 09:42
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] African lions under threat from a growing predator: the American hunter - http://bit.ly/gpV7um how is this possible in 21st century?Mar 02 09:42
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DaemonFCIceWeasel is about as Linux-integrated as Firefox could ever possibly getMar 02 09:42
DaemonFCupstream Firefox really doesn't fit in that wellMar 02 09:42
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DaemonFCit's one step away, quality wise of downloading the EXE installer and running it in WineMar 02 09:43
DaemonFCmy opinion of Firefox is not highMar 02 09:43
DaemonFCFedora does a lot to hide the ugliness of Firefox on Linux, and mostly does what Iceweasel doesMar 02 09:43
oiaohmI really wish the sqlite bug in Linux would get fixed.Mar 02 09:43
DaemonFC--enable-system-sqliteMar 02 09:44
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 09:44
DaemonFCor was it --with-system-sqlite? the documentation saysMar 02 09:44
DaemonFCjust use the system sqlite if the bundled one is giving you problemsMar 02 09:45
DaemonFCin fact, Firefox on Linux works best when you use the system libraries wherever it lets youMar 02 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Foyles Charing Cross Road Moving… Next Door - http://bit.ly/i1nD32 "We’re not concerned about Foyles losing its soul": it *has* one?Mar 02 09:45
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DaemonFCunless of course your distribution has a buggy libraryMar 02 09:45
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DaemonFCmost of the system library options started out as Debian patches to fix the broken copies bundled with FirefoxMar 02 09:46
oiaohmDaemonFC: there is a issue in the vfs layer that messes with sqlite.Mar 02 09:46
DaemonFCis there a repo where you can get semi-recent Wine in Debian?Mar 02 09:48
DaemonFCthe latest build I could find was 1.1.44Mar 02 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] #facebook to #share user's phone and addresses with 3rd parties http://yhoo.it/gD07PYMar 02 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Are Species Worth? Putting a #Price on #Biodiversity - http://bit.ly/gAU4Nu fascinating piece raising important points #economicsMar 02 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Wonders why the Advanced Power Management of sda is not by default disabled on gnu/linux system... Anyone?Mar 02 09:50
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oiaohmDaemonFC: I have not noticed since I build from source.Mar 02 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RStudio: An Open Source and Cross-Platform IDE for R - http://rww.to/h3l997 the favourite language of pirates #statistics #devsMar 02 09:52
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DaemonFCI've moved to using GCC 4.5 for my default compilerMar 02 09:52
DaemonFCI won't use GCC 4.6 until it stops choking on everything I try to build :)Mar 02 09:52
DaemonFCI know GCC 4.5 can compile Wine with the abilities I need from it I jsut never have built WineMar 02 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How can news sites cross the language barrier and appeal to foreign readers? - http://bit.ly/eVlFOo obvious yet clever idea #newspapersMar 02 09:55
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oiaohmsome of the things 4.6 is choking on is true coding errors.  DaemonFCMar 02 09:55
oiaohmYes every gcc is getting less and less friendly to poor quality code.Mar 02 09:56
DaemonFCby the time it breaks, earlier GCCs were spitting out warnings for a while I've noticedMar 02 09:57
DaemonFCif they get strict and it causes the software itself to ultimately become less buggy if the upstream still wants to keep using the latest compiler, I'm happy with that I guessMar 02 09:58
MinceR"Also, in the new X server version the feature "AllowDeactivateGrabs" was removed." -- is this true?Mar 02 09:59
MinceRand if so, what are the x server developers smoking?Mar 02 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How The Great Game emptied the Pentagon - http://bit.ly/dN0Sn9 wonderful piece about the power & relevance of art #afghanistanMar 02 10:04
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MinceRand i won't be able to go back to 6.x either, i bet most of my video card drivers won't work with itMar 02 10:04
sebsebsebInteresting Ubuntu meeting: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/01/%23ubuntu-meeting.htmlMar 02 10:05
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sebsebsebthe last two hours or soMar 02 10:06
oiaohmMinceR: Serious question why was AllowDeactivateGrabs in X11 server in the first place.Mar 02 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Queensland Reconstruction Authority - http://bit.ly/idrwxR impressive use of technology (v @PeteDotAscian) #australiaMar 02 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android developers form ‘union’ to protest Google policies - http://bit.ly/hivjna interesting moveMar 02 10:07
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oiaohmMinceR: WM is possible to monitor and replicate its functionality from userspace.  Mar 02 10:07
MinceRoiaohm: because stupid x clients went berserk with grabs?Mar 02 10:07
*DaemonFC gives MinceR some FuduntuMar 02 10:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 10:07
MinceRand this was a way out without killing the entire x session?Mar 02 10:07
MinceRi wanted to turn it on just nowMar 02 10:07
MinceRsince i had a reboot today and yesterday alreadyMar 02 10:08
oiaohmMinceR: Again even if something goes nuts with grabsMar 02 10:08
MinceRbecause my x session just went fucked upMar 02 10:08
oiaohmMinceR:  the wm monitoring still can catch that.Mar 02 10:08
schestowitzkwin?Mar 02 10:08
MinceRand if i killed the client that held the grab, it passed it to the next oneMar 02 10:08
oiaohmMinceR:  and really should be dealing with it.Mar 02 10:08
MinceRor maybe it's just that kwin is a fucking pile of bugs, not a window managerMar 02 10:08
MinceRnext time it does that, maybe i'll try starting another wm insteadMar 02 10:08
schestowitzI found that in news kde4 I can bring kwin back up from the command line if it crashes, but it's very touch-and-goMar 02 10:09
DaemonFCKwin in KDE 4.6 is goodMar 02 10:09
MinceRi'm really tired of having to struggle with winblowsoid bugs all dayMar 02 10:09
DaemonFCit speeds up a lotMar 02 10:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: here's my suggestion...Mar 02 10:09
schestowitzLast week I enabled a lot of translucenceMar 02 10:09
MinceRand then the geniuses who hack the x server decided to remove the one feature that could actually help me work around thisMar 02 10:09
schestowitz*translucencyMar 02 10:09
DaemonFCthat kills Gallium driversMar 02 10:09
DaemonFCnvidia and fglrx can take itMar 02 10:09
oiaohmMinceR: Really its on the path to sanity long term.Mar 02 10:09
schestowitzYou can make entire windows go translucent like in KDE3 with CompositeMar 02 10:10
MinceRoiaohm: so how can i tell the wm to kill the current grabs?Mar 02 10:10
oiaohmMinceR: Same way wm transfers grabs between applications.   Mar 02 10:10
schestowitzAnd windows titled too, as well as make that tabbed thing with the default qt theme that's brushed metalMar 02 10:10
MinceRschestowitz: i've been bringing back dead kde components from the text mode console for months, but i'm tired of itMar 02 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #GoogleTV to get #Android Market access "shortly" - http://bit.ly/grkUKs would be a big boostMar 02 10:10
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DaemonFCDave Airlie is quite, uhhm, how do I put this? arrogant?Mar 02 10:10
MinceRoiaohm: which is?Mar 02 10:11
oiaohmMinceR: basically the removed the auto assigned key from X11 server.  But left the functions that the server is using todo it that were already exposed to the WM.Mar 02 10:11
DaemonFChe said on his blog something like "If you're happy to let the video driver overwrite /etc/shadow to get another 5 fps in Quake, by all means, use fglrx"Mar 02 10:11
DaemonFC1. It doesn't do thatMar 02 10:11
MinceRoiaohm: that's great if no wm is there to listen to the keyMar 02 10:11
DaemonFCand 2. It's more like another 150 fpsMar 02 10:11
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 10:11
MinceRespecially if the keys won't even get to the wm if the keyboard is grabbed...Mar 02 10:11
oiaohmMinceR: Really.Mar 02 10:12
oiaohmDo you think grabbed stops Wm from listerning in.Mar 02 10:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, if the transparency didn't kill your performance, either you're using proprietary drivers or I'd sure like to know what free driver will withstand thatMar 02 10:12
MinceRoiaohm: i don't know, i'm not sureMar 02 10:12
DaemonFCbecause Intel, r600g, and evergreen don'tMar 02 10:12
oiaohmMinceR: answer is no it does not.Mar 02 10:13
MinceRi've seen some global keys fail when the keyboard was grabbed, iircMar 02 10:13
DaemonFCIntel "chipsets" still don't even have Hardware T&L to my knowledgeMar 02 10:13
oiaohmBecause a lot of wm grab as a general application not a wm.Mar 02 10:13
DaemonFCand that's standard even in integrated Nvidia/AMDMar 02 10:13
MinceRi thought the wm wasn't special, just another x clientMar 02 10:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: you guessed rightMar 02 10:13
DaemonFCthough the free drivers don't make use of itMar 02 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “human beings will go to any lengths necessary to find and connect with each other" - http://bit.ly/i6x1BG says the excellent Eric WhitacreMar 02 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @kernellogauthor #linux #kernel 2.6.32.30-#longterm review http://bit.ly/hHu3FV #2632 68 patches,Mar 02 10:14
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oiaohmMinceR: there are options that only the WM can perform.  Its why you can only run one at a time.Mar 02 10:14
DaemonFCif I pull out my 5670, I get a 3000-series integrated RadeonHD, so there's no hope of me using free drivers on this system for a whileMar 02 10:15
DaemonFCr600g just isn't thereMar 02 10:15
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DaemonFCI was overly optimistic last year, but if it's a consolation, free radeon drivers do suck less  than other free driversMar 02 10:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 10:16
MinceRthat would be quite a changeMar 02 10:16
DaemonFCIntel's driver code is good, but it's good software running bad hardwareMar 02 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rrix Amusing ourselves to death http://ur1.ca/3d3p6Mar 02 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Saving #Ethiopia’s “Church Forests” - http://bit.ly/hzYFBR never heard of these - fascinating stuff #environment #biologyMar 02 10:17
DaemonFCso Intel users have the upperhand now just because the driver is better, but they still don't have good hardware that they can look forward to activating laterMar 02 10:17
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MinceRdream onMar 02 10:17
oiaohmMinceR: Its also some of the changes for this http://www.x.org/wiki/XI2Mar 02 10:17
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DaemonFCfree radeon performance and features improve every day, but there's nowhere for Intel to go reallyMar 02 10:18
oiaohmMinceR: Yes keyboard and mouse grabs no longer have to go threw the X11 server.Mar 02 10:18
DaemonFCmost of the commits to Intel involve adding new chipsets or fixing bugsMar 02 10:18
DaemonFCnot making the hardware more capable, because it's already tapped outMar 02 10:19
DaemonFCMinceR, imagine that I'm standing 20 feet ahead of you but can go no further, and you are walking towards me at a slow paceMar 02 10:19
DaemonFCeventually you will overtake meMar 02 10:20
DaemonFCthat's where Intel v. radeon is right nowMar 02 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros #Androinica: #Honeycomb statue arrives at Google, immediately rooted http://goo.gl/Gur8q #androidMar 02 10:20
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DaemonFCthey both have opposite problemsMar 02 10:20
DaemonFCRadeon = Great hardware / incomplete driver Intel = Crap hardware / Complete driverMar 02 10:21
DaemonFCNvidia users are getting the real shit end of the stickMar 02 10:21
MinceRgreat hardware with a driver somewhere in between?Mar 02 10:22
MinceRyes, that's real shitMar 02 10:22
DaemonFCGood hardware / whatever Nouveau can reverse engineerMar 02 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China Unicom plans to dominate China with its own mobile OS http://ur1.ca/3ddfw #linux #phoneMar 02 10:22
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Intel is crap hardware and crap driver in lot of places.Mar 02 10:22
DaemonFCmost of the time the latest hardware won't work at all with NouveauMar 02 10:22
DaemonFCit falls back to Vesa until you get nvidiaMar 02 10:22
DaemonFCoiaohm, UXA looks niceMar 02 10:23
oiaohmMesa being stack at opengl 2.1 causes a lot of issuesMar 02 10:23
oiaohmThere are a lot of newer opengl 3.x and latter features that support multi thread usage of opengl better.Mar 02 10:23
DaemonFCyeah, like not even being able to do OpenGL 2.1 right while advertising that it canMar 02 10:24
DaemonFCso OpenGL 2.1 apps can cause the driver to wig outMar 02 10:24
DaemonFCload sauerbraten with kwin compositing enabled, exit, watch your screen get corrupted, flicker in and out, eventually freezeMar 02 10:25
oiaohmUmmMar 02 10:25
oiaohmOpengl 2.1 is really not compositing compadible.Mar 02 10:26
oiaohmYes the missing features of opengl 3.x is a pain in the ass.Mar 02 10:26
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schestowitzsebsebseb: pingMar 02 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Important Dent In The #Copyright Monopoly - http://bit.ly/gE0a59 "to make any #Braille books freely available across EU borders." fabMar 02 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ubisoft Uses 'Copyright' Claim To Block Americans From Seeing Its Own Ad For Ridiculous 'Adult' Wii Game - http://bit.ly/gLxMsd embarrassed?Mar 02 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Another day without landline net....gotta try and finish articles on my HTC.Mar 02 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Analysis: #DHS plans on scanning DNA at checkpoints http://ur1.ca/3ddjm how degradingMar 02 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft hosting $40,000 contest to promote #HTML5 development - http://bit.ly/fHF1ML rather amazing (Silverlight?), but v praiseworthyMar 02 10:39
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oiaohmschestowitz: MS has done the commention like this before.Mar 02 10:40
oiaohmLooking for working examples to prove there competion suxs.Mar 02 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #DHS and #TSA treat air travellers like protestors are treated in Toronto (strip-searched) and maybe like felons in the UK (DNA samples)Mar 02 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Where did the buttons go? http://ur1.ca/3d7cu "Minimise and maximise buttons were recently removed from the window titlebars in #GNOME 3."Mar 02 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Where did the buttons go? | afaik .::. Size~: 109.5 KBMar 02 10:40
schestowitzoiaohm: like what?Mar 02 10:41
oiaohmhttp://bit.ly/fHF1MLMar 02 10:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft hosting $40,000 contest to promote HTML5 development .::. Size~: 85.27 KBMar 02 10:41
oiaohmEarly back in the browser war MS did a equal thing.Mar 02 10:42
schestowitzLOLMar 02 10:43
schestowitzJust PRMar 02 10:43
*DaemonFC gives schestowitz an honorary IE 3 launch t-shirtMar 02 10:43
schestowitz"Promoting HTML"Mar 02 10:43
schestowitzJust an adMar 02 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Santhosh gets a seat in Wikipedia Language Committee http://tinyurl.com/4ucexg8 #blogMar 02 10:44
DaemonFCIE 3 promoted ActiveXMar 02 10:44
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DaemonFCa new web standard for plug-insMar 02 10:44
DaemonFCB-)Mar 02 10:44
MinceRafaik m$ has given up on silverlie alreadyMar 02 10:44
MinceRRadioActiveX tooMar 02 10:44
DaemonFCMiguel hasn'tMar 02 10:44
DaemonFCzomgdeskletslulz!Mar 02 10:44
MinceRnobody outside canonical and novell gives two fucks about what miguel wants or believesMar 02 10:45
oiaohmWhat silverlight is is being reformed all the time.Mar 02 10:45
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DaemonFCevery blog post is him masturbating about planning to rewrite GNOME in MoonlightMar 02 10:45
MinceRoiaohm: sure, now it's the kin7 platform :>Mar 02 10:45
DaemonFCthere's a lot to like about GNOME, but the things it gets wrong, it gets really wrongMar 02 10:46
DaemonFCand now they're hosting Banshee and Tomboy and F-Spot and such on their official siteMar 02 10:46
DaemonFCit's basically saying Mono is an unofficial component of GNOMEMar 02 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] - http://bit.ly/hBJCjX finally - what took so long?Mar 02 10:47
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sebsebsebschestowitz: pongMar 02 10:47
DaemonFCthey keep Rhythmbox out of GNOME because they're hoping that at some point they can merge Banshee into the default desktop without much fussMar 02 10:47
schestowitzHow do you like your identica avatar?Mar 02 10:48
MinceRhosting or just listing and linking under Projects?Mar 02 10:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: it's okMar 02 10:48
MinceRwell, they seem to be hosting tomboyMar 02 10:48
DaemonFCthey let it live on GNOME LiveMar 02 10:48
DaemonFCand they let it use their source revision systemMar 02 10:49
MinceRthat isn't nice at allMar 02 10:49
DaemonFChow much more of a wink and a nod is needed?Mar 02 10:49
MinceRfor a project that's supposedly part of the GNU ProjectMar 02 10:49
DaemonFCGNUINOMar 02 10:49
DaemonFCGNU In Name OnlyMar 02 10:49
schestowitzRhinoMar 02 10:49
DaemonFCGNU is not really important to GNOME anymoreMar 02 10:50
DaemonFCit got them started out but now they have enough corporate support coming in that they don't need GNUMar 02 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Free Software To Support With #Flattr http://ur1.ca/3ddlo #freedom #libreMar 02 10:50
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DaemonFCNovell and Red Hat fund them, Red Hat hosts themMar 02 10:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: WHMar 02 10:51
DaemonFCdozens of companies support them in one way or anotherMar 02 10:51
DaemonFCCanonical actually does work on Empathy and a few other thingsMar 02 10:51
DaemonFCthen you have individual donationsMar 02 10:51
DaemonFCbut GNU doesn't really have much clout in the project anymore, which is why RMS shut up and backed downMar 02 10:52
DaemonFChe doesn't want the bad PR of GNOME making the GNU ditching officialMar 02 10:52
DaemonFCit would be an embarrassment and an ego hit even though a lot of the GNOME developers have gone on record as being on the open source side of the OSS/FOSS debateMar 02 10:53
DaemonFCand a fair number of them are working to integrate MonoMar 02 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launching the Open #Genealogy Alliance - http://bit.ly/ePyxSF "based on open data, open standards and innovation through collaboration"Mar 02 10:54
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DaemonFCI think the mindset of the GNOME people is a lot like the Linux peopleMar 02 10:54
DaemonFCGPL2 just makes a handy license so that nobody runs off and doesn't give backMar 02 10:54
DaemonFCit has nothing to do with free softwareMar 02 10:54
DaemonFCin the free software sense, KDE is more in tune with this than GNOME isMar 02 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Lucas Nussbaum: #Banshee and !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/RcdL2Mar 02 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Current status http://ur1.ca/3cj45Mar 02 10:55
DaemonFCit's obvious and it has been obvious for a while if you read Planet GNOME or the GNOME mailing lists even occasionallyMar 02 10:55
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DaemonFCtechnically, both projects have their white elephants, it just so happens that GNOME's is also patent encumberedMar 02 10:56
DaemonFCB-)Mar 02 10:56
DaemonFCMono is a white elephant for Debian and Ubuntu not only for the patents, those aside the runtime takes up nearly 100 megsMar 02 10:58
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DaemonFCthat's a good chunk of a live cd so you can run a note taking app and a media playerMar 02 10:58
cubexyzthe best thing is just to make your own distroMar 02 10:58
cubexyzmake your own live cdMar 02 10:58
DaemonFCI've never used Tomboy or GNOTE, and they both have a huge problemMar 02 10:59
DaemonFCthey take up a lot of ram and cause hard disk activity even if you're not using themMar 02 10:59
DaemonFCthought GNOTE is less bad about thisMar 02 10:59
DaemonFC*thoughMar 02 10:59
DaemonFCTomboy is there in the system try in Debian taking up 47 MB of RAM by default nowMar 02 11:00
DaemonFCthat's more RAM than Windows 98 neededMar 02 11:00
DaemonFCfor a note widgetMar 02 11:00
DaemonFCGNOTE takes about half thatMar 02 11:00
DaemonFCwhich is still too muchMar 02 11:00
DaemonFCthe old sticky note applet only took 6Mar 02 11:01
*cubexyz introduces DaemonFC to Tinfoil Hat Linux :)Mar 02 11:01
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cubexyzneeds at least 8 megs of ram thoughMar 02 11:01
DaemonFCI think making a note widget that takes more RAM than some operating systems is a Bad ThingMar 02 11:02
DaemonFCI think making it start by default is a Bad ThingMar 02 11:02
DaemonFCthe cost is like 50/1 the usefulness of the applicationMar 02 11:02
DaemonFCeven a full blown text editor, like Gedit doesn't take that much RAMMar 02 11:03
DaemonFCwhat's so hard about pinning Gedit and calling it when you need to write something down? :)Mar 02 11:03
*DaemonFC installs GNOME Do and Docky to make cubexyz's life more pleasantMar 02 11:06
DaemonFC:DMar 02 11:06
DaemonFCjsut start typing and they'll do the wrong thing, every time, so fast that you can't stop themMar 02 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Following Google’s Algorithm Change, Mahalo Lays Off 10% of Staff http://on.mash.to/hwUPgD says something, no? #contentfarms #seoMar 02 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody The #Reputation Economy is Coming – Are You Prepared? - http://bit.ly/efvgNm already here in the world of free softwareMar 02 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks Is Up for a Nobel Peace Prize - http://on.mash.to/e0x25s yeah, along with Helmut Kohl... #nobelMar 02 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody ICE Boss: It's Okay To Ignore The Constitution If It's To Protect Companies - http://bit.ly/huc3yq [...] just arrogant?Mar 02 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @khertan: RT @nathiria: We just released QtMobility 1.1.1, Qt 4.7.2, QtCreator 2.1.0 and QtSDK 1.1 beta.Mar 02 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ICE Boss: It's Okay To Ignore The Constitution If It's To Protect Companies | Techdirt .::. Size~: 211.35 KBMar 02 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @qtbynokia Qt Quick final release! Qt 4.7.2, Qt Creator 2.1, Qt Mobility 1.1.1 AND Qt SDK 1.1 beta. http://ow.ly/45oFk http://ow.ly/45oFDMar 02 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @NO2ID @ARCH_Rights: Freedom Bill: our briefing for a Privacy Commissioner w. @privacyint @no2id & Genewatch UK http://bit.ly/ih8BMNMar 02 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Almost half the UK now on #Facebook - http://bit.ly/fPOaPo worryingMar 02 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Survey Finds Many in Java Community Worried About Oracle's Leadership http://ping.fm/7a8X3Mar 02 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Healthcare for People, Not Profit http://ur1.ca/3ddqt "62% of all bankruptcies and most of those people were insured and middle class."Mar 02 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Legislation '2 Protect Farmer IP' Would Make It Felony 2 Photograph Farms http://bit.ly/hhqYkU world is now officially bonkersMar 02 11:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Unity 3.6.0 Comes With Option To Maximize Dash, Lots Of Bug Fixes [Ubuntu 11.04 Updates] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux ... http://post.ly/1gsaBMar 02 11:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dictators and their sons: Col Gaddafi's billionaire children http://ur1.ca/3ddro #looting #libyaMar 02 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kenyan president's mistress linked to mercenaries http://ur1.ca/3dds6 #cablegate !wikileaksMar 02 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnufreex EL Reg hates Assange. Starts article with: "Assange stinks and he dresses up like a girl" http://ur1.ca/3d4l3 #wikileaksMar 02 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Used a model conceived for a web dev. to draft one for a client. I'm taking bets counterpart web dev. will complain it's unbalanced ;-)Mar 02 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 L'ESPRESSO: WikiLeaks cables reveal deep frictions on Afghanistan in Italy | http://is.gd/xDYUOd !wlMar 02 11:34
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DaemonFCbiscuits and gravy and diet pepsiMar 02 11:39
DaemonFCbreakfast of championsMar 02 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Live CD Will Let You Upgrade To Newer Ubuntu Versions [Ubuntu 11.04 Development] http://ur1.ca/3d5pb #gnu #linuxMar 02 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 12 Things You Maynot Know About !Gimp at GIMP Tutorial http://ping.fm/WvpRnMar 02 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @karsten Congrats to @royhugo on winning the fsfe Fellowship election! Thanks to @kboukouvalas for running, & all Fellows for yr support.Mar 02 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Question: Why do I still need to log in to stuff? Firefox remembers my passwords, why can't it just submit the login form for me?Mar 02 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros #Unity 3.6 released: http://goo.gl/sDwUt #ubuntuMar 02 11:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz does it with UbuntuMar 02 11:42
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:43
schestowitzJust wear a condomMar 02 11:43
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Ubuntu does one nice thing that I miss on any other distroMar 02 11:43
DaemonFCPPAsMar 02 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb Oscars TV viewers down 10% http://tighturl.com/2za1 sign of the times? decreasing relevance of a stagnant industry?Mar 02 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @silner 12 Things You Maynot Know About !Gimp at GIMP Tutorial http://ping.fm/WvpRnMar 02 11:44
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schestowitzIn PCLinuxOS, two days ago I needed to pull many reposMar 02 11:44
DaemonFCI know technically anyone can make a Yum repo and host it anywhere (or insert package manager here)Mar 02 11:44
schestowitzThe basic one hardly has any softwareMar 02 11:44
DaemonFCbut there's more of that going on in UbuntuMar 02 11:44
schestowitzSo it took ages to grabs lots of repos infoMar 02 11:44
DaemonFCwell, you go with Ubuntu and you can keep the entire system stocked with the latest software without risking your base system that muchMar 02 11:45
DaemonFCppa-purge makes it really easy to back out a bad updateMar 02 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BBC iPlayer to be available internationally this year for less than $10 per month http://post.ly/1gsoXMar 02 11:45
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DaemonFCif you update packages with yum, there may be no good way to fix it with YumMar 02 11:45
DaemonFCand if you try to be clever and fix it with RPM, you might take out something that RPM depends onMar 02 11:46
DaemonFCand then you have no package managerMar 02 11:46
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:46
DaemonFCI did that once and ended up having to download the RPM of the package that RPM depended on, deflate it myself, and move the files in the RPM spec to the locations it describedMar 02 11:47
DaemonFCthat got RPM working again well enough to pull in the package with those files, using RPMMar 02 11:47
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:47
DaemonFCrpm -e -force--all is a no noMar 02 11:48
DaemonFCI know that now :DMar 02 11:48
DaemonFCactually I knew it then to, but I did it anywayMar 02 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BP fund lawyer to refuse 100,000 Gulf spill disaster claims http://ur1.ca/3ddwl #liars all the way and ruiners of EarthMar 02 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks exposes Peruvian subservience to Washington http://alturl.com/jcw3h !wlMar 02 11:49
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DaemonFCHow many pelicans soaked in oil does it take to get BP to "make this right"?Mar 02 11:49
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 02 11:50
DaemonFCNone, they haven't finished fighting the lawsuits filed over humans yet.Mar 02 11:50
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:50
DaemonFCdid you see how fast they got rid of that snarky british yact boy?Mar 02 11:51
DaemonFCreplaced him with a token American CEOMar 02 11:51
DaemonFC*yachtMar 02 11:51
schestowitzVirgin?Mar 02 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mikkohypponen: Chinese !Android publisher Myournet had sevrl malicious apps in Marketplace: http://bit.ly/hdURTh /via @AndroidPoliceMar 02 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Al Jazeera English #Gaddafi now speaking. Live on @AJEnglish watch here: http://aje.me/ajelive < The man's in a fantasy worldMar 02 11:52
DaemonFCTony Hayward: We will make this right, just as soon as I'm done with my margarita shooters and 4:30 massageMar 02 11:52
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DaemonFC:)Mar 02 11:52
schestowitzBrandon...Mar 02 11:52
schestowitzBut you talked about BP...Mar 02 11:52
schestowitzLacked context...Mar 02 11:52
DaemonFCahhhMar 02 11:53
DaemonFCwell, they ditched him because it didn't go over well that a British company blew up an oil well and drenched American shores in crudeMar 02 11:53
DaemonFCand then their annoying, British CEO is out at the yacht clubMar 02 11:53
DaemonFCthat's how the media was portraying itMar 02 11:54
DaemonFCso BP decided that they had to put him under wraps and make the company look more AmericanizedMar 02 11:54
DaemonFCcompanies are always more reactive than proactiveMar 02 11:55
DaemonFCfiguring out how to cover up a mess after they caused one that could have been preventedMar 02 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Even some of the people supporting him are smirking at some of the comments Gadaffi's makingMar 02 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Qt Creator 2.1.0 released http://ur1.ca/3ddxuMar 02 11:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I am looking for a CSS and CakePHP person at Delhi - http://ur1.ca/3ddycMar 02 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Breaking news... Defective By Design's campaign to tell Sony not to harass Hackers has hit a snag...Mar 02 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ... seems "Sony have removed this email account [howard.stringer@jp.sony.com]...Mar 02 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm ...from their servers as a result of our emails." http://ur1.ca/3d1ji ... does anyone have an idea?Mar 02 11:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WebApplicationDeveloper needed - 1 CSS expert and 1 CakePHP expert at ELPA Technologies / FOSS jobs in India .::. Size~: 17.31 KBMar 02 11:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Sony to stop harassing hackers | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.59 KBMar 02 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ISPs must advertise average broadband speeds, not 'up to' speeds, says Ofcom http://ping.fm/XjKekMar 02 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #XOrg Server 1.11 Release Planned For Mid-August http://ur1.ca/3ddym #graphics #linuxMar 02 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ISPs must advertise average broadband speeds, not 'up to' speeds, says Ofcom | Pinsent Masons LLP .::. Size~: 23.9 KBMar 02 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] X.Org Server 1.11 Release Planned For Mid-August .::. Size~: 18.81 KBMar 02 12:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: sureMar 02 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What is it with Gadaffi and his Al Qaeda paranoia. Why on earth would Al Qaeda even be interested in Libya?Mar 02 12:04
schestowitzCause the punishment isn't great enoughMar 02 12:04
schestowitzRisk analysis when you have bailouts is the sameMar 02 12:04
schestowitzit doesn't matter if you risk bankruptcy cause there's rescuingMar 02 12:04
schestowitzSo risk analysis changesMar 02 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laquadrature: EU Governments United Against the Knowledge Society? http://lqdn.fr/node/4223 #swpats #eu #freedom #linux #gnuMar 02 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Maybe we can http://ur1.ca/3d1ji by sending emails to info@jp.sony.com ? #Sony #FAILMar 02 12:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Governments United Against the Knowledge Society? | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 40.4 KBMar 02 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @bithooked Redhat makes millions off FOSS w/o rev share. But Canonical wants rev share on a few thousand, and you form a lynch mob. !Mar 02 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rysiek seriously, guys. "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence and ignorance". & #C - work on those.Mar 02 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Wikileaks - Война,ложь и видеокассета http://youtube.com/watch?v=lvWFvHXGBaA http://bit.ly/dHLGyBMar 02 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks exposes Peruvian subservience to Washington http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/peru-... http://bit.ly/hIUsERMar 02 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Libya doesn't like foreign correspondents" not even the meteorologists, he's saying now. What the hell is this man smoking?Mar 02 12:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Wikileaks - Война,ложь и видеокассета .::. Size~: 114.4 KBMar 02 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @doctorow: Looks like you could show #BillBlair vid of cops disemboweling protestors w/halberds & he wouldn't call it "excessive force"Mar 02 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody: Violent suppression of protest at Toronto's G20 - CBC documentary - http://bit.ly/f0NpFr disgraceful, but not unique #canadaMar 02 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Violent suppression of protest at Toronto's G20 - CBC documentary - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 103.35 KBMar 02 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] notmuch has an attitude problem. Tells me that 60k+ mails is "not much mail", then craps out after indexing a mere 42. #failMar 02 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @NickKristof: If there's anything that symbolizes the bankruptcy of TV news today, it's the focus on Charlie Sheen.Mar 02 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Kristinn Hrafnsson (WikiLeaks journalist) wins Icelandic Journalist of the Year. Unprecedented three wins for Hrafnsson.Mar 02 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @agentsmith I think Canonical should make money selling music. Just switch to RhythmBoxMar 02 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ovigia #policestate ♺ @p2pnet: Schoolgirl strip-searched by principal. 'Unauthorized medication' http://ur1.ca/3de27Mar 02 12:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Schoolgirl strip-searched by principal .::. Size~: 48.02 KBMar 02 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 The best of TED. 15 unmissable talks http://alturl.com/dtby3 !wl << #1 is #AssangeMar 02 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Best Of TED: 15 Unmissable Tech Talks (VIDEOS) .::. Size~: 301.82 KBMar 02 12:24
DaemonFCunfortunately thanks to Ubuntu's new ridiculous virtual packages that make the free ati driver dependent on a certain x server API, it's impossible to just pull your ati driver from git and slap it inMar 02 12:25
DaemonFCwhich means that their xorg-edgers PPA is broken, and has been for the last several daysMar 02 12:25
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 12:25
DaemonFCI think it's not entirely their fault thoughMar 02 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @russellmcormond: Recording industry will be at #C32com this morning asking to be shot, not even recognizing that #DRM is a bullet #C32Mar 02 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tell #Sony to stop harassing hackers http://is.gd/ZcX935 #gnu #linuxMar 02 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trashbird1240 Surprisingly the word "cocaine" is not included in Glen Campbell's Wikipedia article http://ur1.ca/3d5n9Mar 02 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Sony to stop harassing hackers | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.59 KBMar 02 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Glen Campbell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 80.93 KBMar 02 12:25
DaemonFCX.org is so seriously mismanaged that this is probably due to them introducing XRandR 1.4 and reverting it in the last RCMar 02 12:26
DaemonFCApple is doing a fairly good job with the X Server 1.9 branch managementMar 02 12:26
DaemonFCthat surprised meMar 02 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Carl-Schurz-Schule http://b1t.it/bzM #4sqMar 02 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RoAndroid: RT @androinica: Google kills 21 Trojan apps in the Android Market that were stealing data http://goo.gl/fb/0JGs8Mar 02 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @methoddan: I love this cartoon, very funny for any programming geeks - http://is.gd/QPGwwl #loMar 02 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Peste 80% din americani detin sau vor detine un smartphone in urmatoarele 6 luni. Afla care sunt alegerilor lor http://bit.ly/hnYTbX PlS RTMar 02 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 2.6.38 (Part 4) - Storage http://h-online.com/-1199926 #target #lio #san #dm #dmcrypt #cfq #performance #driver #pollingframeworkMar 02 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Carl-Schurz-Schule       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia .::. Size~: 22.59 KBMar 02 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google kills 21 Trojan apps in the Android Market that were stealing data | larsa | Androinica .::. Size~: 51.18 KBMar 02 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: this means i should be able to make the most beautiful flower pot in the worl... - My soup .::. Size~: 17.95 KBMar 02 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pe ce iti bazezi alegerile in materie de telefoane mobile? | ANDROIDandME .::. Size~: 27.81 KBMar 02 12:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.38 (Part 4) - Storage - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.28 KBMar 02 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ♺ @toros #Unity 3.6 released: http://goo.gl/sDwUt #ubuntu #fedoraMar 02 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Sheldon loves Ubuntu http://youtu.be/M0j5iMWJUgAMar 02 12:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3.6 "alpha-3" : Series 3.0 : Unity .::. Size~: 58.91 KBMar 02 12:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Sheldon prefere o Ubuntu .::. Size~: 122.32 KBMar 02 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UN: Libyan refugee 'crisis' tops 140,000 http://ur1.ca/3de40 #libyaMar 02 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UN: Libyan refugee 'crisis' tops 140,000 .::. Size~: 91.24 KBMar 02 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @noyesk: Want help with your open source project? http://bit.ly/eSFj7x #opensourceMar 02 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who Contributes the Most to LibreOffice? http://ur1.ca/3de5f surprise from #RedHatMar 02 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who Contributes the Most to LibreOffice? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 59.7 KBMar 02 12:39
DaemonFCtorrent inside an RAR file that you get with a torrentMar 02 12:45
DaemonFCok, must...not....killMar 02 12:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Guardian shunned at UK press awards: back-stabbing doesn't pay. !wlMar 02 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Nelly Furtado To Donate $1 Million Received From Gadhafi. Hint: http://alturl.com/7tszm http://is.gd/pzevqv !wlMar 02 12:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks - Donate .::. Size~: 7.47 KBMar 02 12:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nelly Furtado To Donate $1 Million Received From Gadhafi - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV .::. Size~: 27.74 KBMar 02 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] $ cat /usr/share/doc/nethack-3.4.3/Guidebook.txt |espeakMar 02 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] After 10 months, Bradley Manning is still under "dungeon" conditions with no trial date in sight. http://bit.ly/ekd51d !wlMar 02 12:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Law Office of David E. Coombs: Confinement Conditions Persist .::. Size~: 71.09 KBMar 02 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I don't think I'm going to convince IBM to release Watson's sources as Free Software." http://ur1.ca/3d5lj #ibm #freedom #watsonMar 02 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Freedom Is Elementary, My Dear Watson. - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 22.91 KBMar 02 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks Shames the Old News Media http://ur1.ca/3de7r Julian Assange, is “a real journalist,” recent events should erase all those doubts.Mar 02 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Shames the Old News Media .::. Size~: 35.57 KBMar 02 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fergie's hypocrisy is boundless http://tighturl.com/2zby it's embarssingMar 02 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Utd get a lot more than their fair share of decisions, and benefit from them, yet seem it's their right to blame the ref when they don'tMar 02 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC Sport - Football - Sir Alex Ferguson angry at referee after Man Utd defeat .::. Size~: 56.82 KBMar 02 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] most managers are reasonably fair and accept the result, outplayed etc but never Fergie, it's always finding an excuse to blame the refMar 02 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Robert-Koch-Schule http://b1t.it/bzT #4sqMar 02 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] This is why I need more 8bit. http://ur1.ca/3de98Mar 02 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Robert-Koch-Schule       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia .::. Size~: 22.62 KBMar 02 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Nirvana-Smells Like Teen Spirit (8-Bit Remix) .::. Size~: 125.17 KBMar 02 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after last nights game on 5live a Utd fan came on, mimic'd Utd's "Rooney was dealt with" & copied Fergies "woe is us" "ref's fault we lost"Mar 02 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I expect that of the die hard fans of any club, seeing the world with different lenses, but not the managersMar 02 13:04
DaemonFCspeaking of NirvanaMar 02 13:06
DaemonFCI haven't got around to trying out those CDs with my new Vorbis encoderMar 02 13:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, Aotuv beta 6 is impressiveMar 02 13:07
DaemonFCaccording to ABX, AoTuv 6 -q5 is tied to libvorbis 1.3.2 -q8Mar 02 13:07
DaemonFCat least with me, my equipment, my ears, etc. so onMar 02 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Is WikiLeaks a zionist plot? http://alturl.com/ajuoq !wlMar 02 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conspiracy Theories Linking Israel to WikiLeaks Circulate on the Internet .::. Size~: 59.87 KBMar 02 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VIA #DRM #Kernel Mode-Setting On The #OLPC http://ur1.ca/3deb5 #linuxMar 02 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] VIA DRM Kernel Mode-Setting On The OLPC .::. Size~: 17.75 KBMar 02 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the whole "Rooney was dealt with, so it's dropped" débâcle is pathetic too, he shoulda been sent off and bannedMar 02 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-02: BSA: Open standards will 'increase e-government costs' I suppose I shouldn't be surprised... http://wmk.me/hzDXO2Mar 02 13:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2011-03-02 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 51.66 KBMar 02 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks at the Forefront of 21st-Century Journalism http://ur1.ca/3debw #foi #rawdataMar 02 13:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks at the Forefront of 21st-Century Journalism  by Kevin Zeese  -- Antiwar.com .::. Size~: 50.4 KBMar 02 13:14
DaemonFCthe Street Fighter II port was the only regret about selling my 360 :PMar 02 13:15
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ma66BsZhKwMar 02 13:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 13:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Ryu vs. Guile - Street Fighter II - SNES .::. Size~: 116.88 KBMar 02 13:16
*DaemonFC misses the arcade console tooMar 02 13:16
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgY78NPOUN8Mar 02 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @dbart Facebook Linked To One In Five Divorces in the United States http://bit.ly/gqFWz8 -- Be careful out there in social media land.Mar 02 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Terminator 2 Arcade Sega Genesis .::. Size~: 105.3 KBMar 02 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Linked To One In Five Divorces in the United States  | Science Blog .::. Size~: 38.44 KBMar 02 13:17
DaemonFCthat one worked with the Menacer :)Mar 02 13:17
DaemonFCthis guy sucksMar 02 13:18
DaemonFCyou shoot their head and it pops right off :/Mar 02 13:18
DaemonFCI could clear that stage with the Menacer or the controller and not miss one of them :)Mar 02 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Linux Mint 11 "Katya" to use GNOME 3 http://is.gd/cB5ND3Mar 02 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" to use GNOME 3 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.18 KBMar 02 13:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, Have you tried the new Adblock for Chrome beta that really blocks things from downloading?Mar 02 13:21
DaemonFCI subscribed to Fanboy's List and all the add-ons and haven't seen an ad, pop under, or facebook annoyance widget type thing sinceMar 02 13:21
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 13:21
DaemonFC instead opting for GNOME 3 "using a traditional desktop layout" without the GNOME Shell.Mar 02 13:22
DaemonFCthat's hehMar 02 13:23
DaemonFClike saying "We're going down with the ship, just choosing how we do it"Mar 02 13:23
schestowitz[13:16] * DaemonFC misses the arcade console tooMar 02 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @dweinberger from DigPubLib mtg: #PLoS One now largest science journal in world, with 1K peer-reviewed articles/month #dplaMar 02 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Restart For The Botched #RandR 1.4 http://ur1.ca/3dedc #linux #graphicsMar 02 13:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Restart For The Botched RandR 1.4 .::. Size~: 17.44 KBMar 02 13:24
schestowitzWas my fav characterMar 02 13:24
schestowitzRyuMar 02 13:24
schestowitz[13:21] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Have you tried the new Adblock for Chrome beta that really blocks things from downloading?Mar 02 13:24
schestowitzNoMar 02 13:24
DaemonFCchoosing a GNOME 3 shell is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg Mar 02 13:24
schestowitzI don't use chromium much...Mar 02 13:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: gnome3 is weirdMar 02 13:24
schestowitzMany changesMar 02 13:24
schestowitzLess reasonable than Ubuntu's "let's throw the buttons to the other side for no reason"Mar 02 13:25
schestowitzMac Asay left..Mar 02 13:25
schestowitzNot a good signMar 02 13:25
DaemonFCon Fedora 15 it immediately sent me to the fallback interface, which is GNOME 2-ish and what you get if it hates youMar 02 13:25
schestowitzAnd AFAIK they have no COO nowMar 02 13:25
DaemonFCerrr, hates your video driversMar 02 13:25
schestowitzJust Novell/Mono COUPMar 02 13:25
DaemonFCwhich were the open source ones that it is said to loveMar 02 13:25
DaemonFC(but doesn't)Mar 02 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Backup Gmail Using Thunderbird http://bit.ly/fK8YI6Mar 02 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Backup Gmail Using Thunderbird ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.64 KBMar 02 13:25
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65845168Mar 02 13:26
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 13:13:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz VIA sucks big balls on Linux. Have they improved their drivers ?Mar 02 13:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65845454Mar 02 13:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Hanns-Jörg Rohwedder (danebod)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 13:18:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz FYI I just started a group "fracking" http://identi.ca/group/fracking . You are welcome to join.Mar 02 13:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: fracking (fracking) group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 14.43 KBMar 02 13:26
DaemonFCfrom what I understand, if your Via Unichrome chipset works on Linux at all, it's because some hobbyist screwed around with the mess that Via left behind and got it to do something for youMar 02 13:26
DaemonFCthank them, not ViaMar 02 13:27
DaemonFCand there's now three open source Via Unichrome drivers that all have different capabilities, bugs, and supported hardwareMar 02 13:27
schestowitzJust joined the group..Mar 02 13:27
DaemonFCand the one that's actually named via chrome is not the one you likely wantMar 02 13:28
DaemonFCbecause OLPC is maintaining that for only the chips they useMar 02 13:28
DaemonFCthe driver situation with VIA is less than optimal :)Mar 02 13:28
DaemonFCI think frankly that it was dump to standardize on Via when they never made any firm commitment to maintain their own driverMar 02 13:29
DaemonFCAMD would have at least gotten them decent support in a unified free driverMar 02 13:30
DaemonFCor Intel, but Intel is not known for making affordable power efficient anythingMar 02 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek RT @christianabryant It's difficult to separate #freedom from #humanitarian goals when building #gnu #linux systems...Mar 02 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @opensourceway Neighbors helping @NeighborGoods | http://bit.ly/hpypmF #sharing #community << sharing helps everyone, as mothers say...Mar 02 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neighbors helping NeighborGoods | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.78 KBMar 02 13:30
DaemonFCschestowitz, The buttons are on the left for the same reason that they copied the rest of OS XMar 02 13:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 13:32
DaemonFCmenu bar and allMar 02 13:32
DaemonFCeven the tray icons are plagiarized Mar 02 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #WarOnSharing and on collaboration is making unions harder to form and makes bad people stronger, w/o resistanceMar 02 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL "An Update is Available for Your Computer" http://outl.ws/fSNJXqMar 02 13:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Update is Available for Your Computer - sticky comics .::. Size~: 144.34 KBMar 02 13:32
DaemonFCthe biggest difference now is they put their dock on the left side of the screen instead of the bottomMar 02 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] House plans first vote to overturn #Netneutrality rules http://ur1.ca/3deexMar 02 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm #STOPsony Defective By Design Alternate suggestion: email nicole.seligman@am.sony.com http://ur1.ca/3d1ji // #SCOny #DRMMar 02 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: House plans first vote to overturn Net neutrality rules | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 145.5 KBMar 02 13:34
DaemonFCAn update is available for your motherMar 02 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Sony to stop harassing hackers | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 16.59 KBMar 02 13:34
DaemonFCto see the list of changes, sit on it and rotateMar 02 13:34
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Early Look at #GNOME 3.0 http://ur1.ca/3deff #gnu #linux #desktopMar 02 13:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Mar 02 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Wikileaks Cables on Raila And Uhuru (video) http://alturl.com/73ifd !wlMar 02 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Let the pictures speak for themselves... http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com/2011/03/let-pictures-speak-for-themselves.htmlMar 02 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Wikileaks Cables on Raila And Uhuru .::. Size~: 122.16 KBMar 02 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ඩනිෂ්කගේ දින පොත | Danishka's Diary: Let the pictures speak for themselves... .::. Size~: 115.05 KBMar 02 13:37
DaemonFCan early look at GNOME 3 by someone that got it to boot?Mar 02 13:39
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ongoing Discussion About Gnome 3 Window Controls http://lxnews.org/2011/03/02/ongoing-discussion-about-gnome-3-window-controls/Mar 02 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm Qi Gen Guo is the sixth detainee to pass away in ICE custody in fiscal year 2011. http://ur1.ca/3d7hw >> maybe 'suicided'?Mar 02 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ongoing Discussion About Gnome 3 Window Controls .::. Size~: 28.05 KBMar 02 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ICE detainee passes away at Lock Haven Hospital .::. Size~: 38.08 KBMar 02 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] F4A [Freedom 4 Android] 1.4 released http://ur1.ca/3degk #linux #android #freedomMar 02 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: F4A 1.4 released | Freedom 4 Android .::. Size~: 14.25 KBMar 02 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @easyeddy Social media as a tool used by attorneys in divorce conflicts: FB 66%, MySpace 5%, Twitter 5%, the rest 14%.Mar 02 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rrix @carlg poke. Long time no see/hearMar 02 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros Geek & Poke Architectural Best Practices: use layers to decouple http://goo.gl/6u8pnMar 02 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Today at 11am (ET) - A Practically Radical webcast with Bill Taylor and Polly LaBarre | http://bit.ly/ii5SMI #oywfMar 02 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] DuckDuckGo Donates 10% of Revenue to F/OSS Projects http://lxnews.org/2011/03/02/duckduckgo-donates-revenue-to-foss/Mar 02 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Architectural Best Practices .::. Size~: 42.82 KBMar 02 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TODAY: A Practically Radical webcast with Bill Taylor and Polly LaBarre | opensource.com .::. Size~: 39.88 KBMar 02 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DuckDuckGo Donates 10% of Revenue to F/OSS Projects .::. Size~: 27.71 KBMar 02 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In U.S.-Libya nuclear deal, a Qadhafi threat faded away http://ur1.ca/3dehq "according to cables released by WikiLeaks."Mar 02 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Supreme Court Says AT&T Has No Right To 'Personal Privacy' http://ur1.ca/3dehz http://ur1.ca/3dei2 #privacy #astroturf #spinMar 02 13:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : Opinion / News Analysis : In U.S.-Libya nuclear deal, a Qadhafi threat faded away .::. Size~: 22.4 KBMar 02 13:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court Says AT&T Has No Right To 'Personal Privacy' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 62.19 KBMar 02 13:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SCOTUS: Corporations Not People (at least with respect to one FOIA provision) - Sunlight Foundation .::. Size~: 16.48 KBMar 02 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Red Hat is "Obfuscating" the RHEL 6 Kernel Source http://lxnews.org/2011/02/28/red-hat-is-obfuscating-the-rhel-6-kernel-source/Mar 02 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Personal lives which don't affect the public -> privacy; government/corporate behaviour that affects the public -> transparency, FoIMar 02 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat is “Obfuscating” the RHEL 6 Kernel Source .::. Size~: 28.15 KBMar 02 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fabsh !q "I, for one, welcome our computer overlords…but only if I can study and modify their source code." ~ @bkuhnMar 02 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Is Gnome 3 a Dead End? http://lxnews.org/2011/02/28/is-gnome-3-a-dead-end/Mar 02 13:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Gnome 3 a Dead End? .::. Size~: 27.43 KBMar 02 13:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65847298Mar 02 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 13:44:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @solitaryscar @schestowitz Google using backup tapes? Well, it must have worked, as I have all my Gmail + 225 spam! (I don't use Hotmail.)Mar 02 13:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65847667Mar 02 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 13:50:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz 6 dead in 2 months? ICE has an extraordinarily high death-in-custody toll... #USA #Government #Accountability #FAILMar 02 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Love this headline: 'What should “Should be” be?' http://ur1.ca/3dej3 OpenSource should teach Red Hat about transparency http://ur1.ca/3d79iMar 02 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm 6 dead in 2 months? ICE has an extraordinarily high death-in-custody toll... #USA #Government #Accountability #FAILMar 02 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What should “Should be” be? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 33.81 KBMar 02 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat is Not Transparent Enough | Techrights .::. Size~: 77.48 KBMar 02 13:55
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qs7QfqYXl0Mar 02 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Tivo - Joe Montana & Ronnie Lott Are Itchy .::. Size~: 114.13 KBMar 02 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 Over 5000 WikiLeaks cables now online: http://alturl.com/p3kt6 !wl >> mirrors not up to date yet... http://cablesearch.org/Mar 02 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nokia strategy for #MeeGo after Microsoft partnership http://is.gd/02pPk0Mar 02 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Viewer .::. Size~: 53.79 KBMar 02 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cable Search BETA .::. Size~: 65.03 KBMar 02 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia strategy for MeeGo after Microsoft partnership .::. Size~: 87.23 KBMar 02 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forensic Analysis Of Geohot's Hard Drives In Dispute http://ur1.ca/3dek8 #SCOny - why are you being so nasty?Mar 02 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PSGroove.com - Forensic Analysis Of Geohot's Hard Drives In Dispute .::. Size~: 78.42 KBMar 02 14:00
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/supreme-court-att-cant-keep-bad-behavior-a-secret.arsMar 02 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court: AT&T can't keep bad behavior a secret .::. Size~: 31.52 KBMar 02 14:02
oiaohmhttp://is.gd/02pPk0  Intersting seams like Nokia has worked out meego will not die.Mar 02 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia strategy for MeeGo after Microsoft partnership .::. Size~: 87.23 KBMar 02 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit" #Misheard Lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1-NZWtTJYIMar 02 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner I was just looking at these Wayland screenshots http://ping.fm/RRA19Mar 02 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Smells Like Teen Spirit Misheard Lyrics .::. Size~: 125.57 KBMar 02 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wayland .::. Size~: 1.35 KBMar 02 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android #Honeycomb Sculpture Arrives at Google Building 44 | #Android Community http://ur1.ca/3dekw #linuxMar 02 14:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Honeycomb Sculpture Arrives at Google Building 44 | Android Community - silner's posterous .::. Size~: 19.56 KBMar 02 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Yocto project and OpenEmbeddded align http://lwn.net/Articles/430576/rssMar 02 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Popular Android Apps on Market Replaced by Malware http://lxnews.org/2011/03/02/popular-android-apps-replaced-by-malware/Mar 02 14:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yocto project and OpenEmbeddded align [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.46 KBMar 02 14:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Popular Android Apps on Market Replaced by Malware .::. Size~: 28.1 KBMar 02 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @popey Wow! Windows 8 will have multiple desktops! Welcome to 1985! http://popey.me/h0eubNMar 02 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh @popey damn, those ZDNet links. This one is dead too !Mar 02 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Burst of viagra spam while on a confcall. Somewhat related? I assure, message received, but thanks, don't need it yet.Mar 02 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gotunandan ZDNet sucks....Mar 02 14:10
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GoForbes28good morningMar 02 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Early Benchmarks Of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion: By now you have likely read all about the features announced for Mac OS ... http://bit.ly/gqnyAuMar 02 14:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Early Benchmarks Of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion .::. Size~: 21.06 KBMar 02 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya We are finally getting some coverage in the media about the Libyan system of direct democracy. It does not fit with dictator memeMar 02 14:14
GoForbes28hi RoyMar 02 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ASUS renaming apps like Pidgin, claiming copyright, giving no credit, for #Splashtop? http://tighturl.com/2zc5 still #GPL but sounds sleazyMar 02 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Upstart 1.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/430583/rssMar 02 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ASUS Splashtop Express Gate instant-on Linux mini OS Review .::. Size~: 143.06 KBMar 02 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Upstart 1.0 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.07 KBMar 02 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: After 10 months, Bradley Manning is still under "dungeon" conditions with no trial date in sight. htt... http://bit.ly/dWc1DHMar 02 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Is WikiLeaks a zionist plot? http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Israel/conspiracy_theories_wikileaks.htm http://bit.ly/i5DV45Mar 02 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: After 10 months, Bradley M ... .::. Size~: 13.16 KBMar 02 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conspiracy Theories Linking Israel to WikiLeaks Circulate on the Internet .::. Size~: 59.87 KBMar 02 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / WikiLeaks: Is WikiLeaks a zionist plo ... .::. Size~: 13.14 KBMar 02 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Emergency ignored: Current status of the Patent Reform Act | http://bit.ly/fHBvN9 #swpatents #praMar 02 14:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Emergency ignored: Current status of the Patent Reform Act  | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.59 KBMar 02 14:24
schestowitzHi, GoForbes28Mar 02 14:25
schestowitzWhat's up?Mar 02 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya Despite stories in the Telegraph Cameron confirmed at #pmq that it was assets of the Libyan people that had been frozen.Mar 02 14:25
GoForbes28I have access to a lan lineMar 02 14:26
GoForbes28so if I want to do a SIP communicator test, I'm gameMar 02 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Scientist TV: Rare leopard caught on candid camera http://post.ly/1guuBMar 02 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anyone remember when Telegraph journalist happened to find document incriminating George Galloway 5 mins after building taken?Mar 02 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Scientist TV: Rare leopard caught on candid camera - silner's posterous .::. Size~: 20.11 KBMar 02 14:27
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZeKaEFHAlgMar 02 14:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - PWNED - Conservative Youtubers .::. Size~: 149.06 KBMar 02 14:28
schestowitzGood videoMar 02 14:28
schestowitzGoForbes28: what for?Mar 02 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Telegraph has a long history of running stories at the behest of British intelligence agencies and other unsavoury people.Mar 02 14:29
GoForbes28We haven't done anything on that front for awhileMar 02 14:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/65848788Mar 02 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr@azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 14:07:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @jospoortvliet according to @schestowitz, RedHat is largest contributorMar 02 14:29
schestowitzI didn't say that!!Mar 02 14:29
schestowitzcontext: "jospoortvliet : http://bit.ly/gpkC0B Stats on #LibreOffice, !Novell by far largest contributor !openSUSE !linux"Mar 02 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who Contributes the Most to LibreOffice? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 62.33 KBMar 02 14:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crosbie/status/42944487298838531Mar 02 14:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Crosbie: @schestowitz AT&T has no right to anything. Corporations are legal constructs and can have no rights. Permission perhaps, but not #privacy.Mar 02 14:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Crosbie/status/42945233494867968Mar 02 14:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Crosbie: @schestowitz Meanwhile, loonies are campaigning for people to be able to delegate their #privacy to corporations on trust. #WhatCanGoWrongMar 02 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @mairin creepy photo alert! http://ur1.ca/3akbdMar 02 14:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jobs, Zuckerberg get prime spots at Obama dinner - Computerworld .::. Size~: 130.43 KBMar 02 14:30
schestowitzit's called GOPMar 02 14:30
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZeKaEFHAlgMar 02 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - PWNED - Conservative Youtubers .::. Size~: 147.37 KBMar 02 14:31
schestowitzLiars like these onesMar 02 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android Central • by Jared DiPane • The unofficial list of Honeycomb optimized applications http://ping.fm/dZlQcMar 02 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE George Galloway did not make it clear, Telegraph journalist said he found document in newly taken Iraqi Oil Ministry building.Mar 02 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The unofficial list of Honeycomb optimized applications [from the forums] | Android Central .::. Size~: 77.11 KBMar 02 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Reunited with those who would save me http://bit.ly/gVx58N #Chevenga #weblit #fantasy #sffMar 02 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 443 - Fourth Chevenga Shae-Arano-e, childraper of a suicide | C H E V E N G A • L I V E S • H E R E .::. Size~: 52.29 KBMar 02 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonNewsNet: CBC program The Fifth Estate investigates Toronto #G20 riots, finds police randomly beating protesters http://goo.gl/0U266Mar 02 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @PoliceStateUK "current structure, status and accountability arrangements of #ACPO are not suitable": Home Secretary. http://s.coop/lhxMar 02 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: You Should Have Stayed At Home - the fifth estate .::. Size~: 373.76 KBMar 02 14:37
GoForbes28so Roy, do you have time for that?Mar 02 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plan to cut police pay slammed by federation - UK, Local & National - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk .::. Size~: 65.75 KBMar 02 14:37
GoForbes28Good vids, BTWMar 02 14:37
schestowitzGoForbes28: there's not much to say thereMar 02 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: RT @ioerror: It would be really interesting to crowd source the de-anonymization of the dirty #g20 cops rather than protesters.Mar 02 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A New, Unique Linux Hardware Blog: If you're a Linux enthusiast and/or a computer hardware enthusiast, a new blo... http://bit.ly/es24N1Mar 02 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Firefox and Thunderbird security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/430589/rssMar 02 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] London Stock Exchange Problems Not Due to Linux http://lxnews.org/2011/03/02/london-stock-exchange-problems-not-linux/Mar 02 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A New, Unique Linux Hardware Blog .::. Size~: 22.73 KBMar 02 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox and Thunderbird security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.31 KBMar 02 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: London Stock Exchange Problems Not Due to Linux .::. Size~: 28.96 KBMar 02 14:42
GoForbes28hmmm trueMar 02 14:42
GoForbes28but if we we're to actually do TechBytes and SIP didn't work, that would be time-consuming and annoyingMar 02 14:44
schestowitzYes, there have been no recording for a whileMar 02 14:45
schestowitz*recordingsMar 02 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @psquid: These stories about the 'iPad2 leaking out' brings a rather horrible image to mind involving female personal hygiene. Please d ..Mar 02 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Former British ambassador to #Libya says that Libyan airforce has not been used to attack civilians and a no fly zone would be bad idea.Mar 02 14:47
GoForbes28were you planning an episode in the near future?Mar 02 14:49
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MinceRIn Soviet Russia, episode plans YOU!!Mar 02 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chris Dodd shows how Washington works - http://bit.ly/hdWCMj justified skewering of a repulsive sell-out (v @jmcesteves) #lobbyingMar 02 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chris Dodd shows how Washington works - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 76.02 KBMar 02 14:50
DaemonFC"I love America, you have such nice things, like warning shots"Mar 02 14:51
DaemonFCB-)Mar 02 14:51
schestowitzYes, but next week I'll be mostly away, so probably mid-MarchMar 02 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/3/2011: Early Look at GNOME 3.0, Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/3deu6 !techrightsMar 02 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 2/3/2011: Early Look at GNOME 3.0, Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/3deu6 #techrightsMar 02 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 2/3/2011: Early Look at GNOME 3.0, Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Screenshots | Techrights .::. Size~: 177.91 KBMar 02 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 2/3/2011: Early Look at GNOME 3.0, Mandriva 2011 Alpha 2 Screenshots | Techrights .::. Size~: 177.91 KBMar 02 14:52
GoForbes28okMar 02 14:54
GoForbes28March is exam hell for me, but I'll try to find some timeMar 02 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - http://bit.ly/fvq4vl "Microsoft could end up with more control of Linux markets"Mar 02 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - Eric Savitz - The Tech Trade - Forbes .::. Size~: 98.63 KBMar 02 14:57
DaemonFClooks like a huge XFS patch is landing on 2.6.32.30Mar 02 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian laws aimed to limit Chinese investments http://is.gd/rkxBwo !wlMar 02 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz ♺ @richslxh "A Remote Access Trojan (RAT) for Windows, known as darkComet, has been ported to Mac OS X" http://ur1.ca/3d3gwMar 02 14:59
DaemonFCa few hundred lines worthMar 02 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Laws 'aimed to limit' Chinese investments .::. Size~: 137.39 KBMar 02 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BlackHole RAT Trojan targets Mac OS X | TG Daily .::. Size~: 40.36 KBMar 02 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Knowledge Base Days – Preparing for Firefox 4 http://bit.ly/hY8U0DMar 02 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @graziano HTC Magic / T-Mobile G1 gets #Honeycomb port: http://ur1.ca/3dev8 !replicantMar 02 15:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » Knowledge Base Days – Preparing for Firefox 4 .::. Size~: 21.13 KBMar 02 15:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HTC Magic / T-Mobile G1 gets Honeycomb port, Android past and future fused together (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 63 KBMar 02 15:00
DaemonFCtrojans are a PEBKAC problem, schestowitzMar 02 15:01
DaemonFCnot always the fault of a bad OSMar 02 15:01
DaemonFCtrojans by definition require a user to execute them after having been tricked through some sort of social engineeringMar 02 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Yocto Project Aligns Technology with #OpenEmbedded and Gains Corporate Collaborators - http://bit.ly/fToVNY does that mean merging?Mar 02 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @glynmoody Feds Could Block M$ group’s Bid For Novell Patent http://bit.ly/fvq4vl "M$ could end up with more control of Linux markets" #fbMar 02 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Add More Layouts To gMusicBrowser With gMusicBrowser-Art http://goo.gl/fIs3IMar 02 15:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yocto Project Aligns Technology with OpenEmbedded and Gains Corporate Collaborators | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 40.91 KBMar 02 15:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - Eric Savitz - The Tech Trade - Forbes .::. Size~: 98.54 KBMar 02 15:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Add More Layouts To gMusicBrowser With gMusicBrowser-Art ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.57 KBMar 02 15:02
DaemonFCnobody made much of that trojan packed in a deb file on GNOME Look a while backMar 02 15:03
DaemonFCit's just a good thing that it wasn't particularly sophisticated, as most trojans aren'tMar 02 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Stop the Crackdown http://alturl.com/ffbem !wlMar 02 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source by Any Other Name... - http://bit.ly/f3k042 major report calling for lotsa #opensource in #UK government - well, sorta #agileMar 02 15:04
DaemonFCtheir need for a user to interact with them acts to self-limit their spreadMar 02 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avaaz.org - WikiLeaks: Stop the crackdown .::. Size~: 36.07 KBMar 02 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source by Any Other Name... - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 70.74 KBMar 02 15:04
oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/03/yocto-project-aligns-technology-openembedded-and-gains-corporate-co interesting.Mar 02 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yocto Project Aligns Technology with OpenEmbedded and Gains Corporate Collaborators | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 40.91 KBMar 02 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I no longer feel good about contributing to !ubuntu !linux :(Mar 02 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Off to Mesa. Not as evil a trip as I thought it was. Only about a mile of walkingMar 02 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australia Considers New Digital Lock Exceptions - http://bit.ly/fEblHn rebalancing of #copyright long overdue #auMar 02 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 2.6.32.30 http://lwn.net/Articles/430601/rssMar 02 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stable kernel 2.6.32.30 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.75 KBMar 02 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - http://bit.ly/fvq4vl "Microsoft could end up with more control ...Mar 02 15:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - Eric Savitz - The Tech Trade - Forbes .::. Size~: 98.54 KBMar 02 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 11.6 Hours Scam Spreading on #Twitter [WARNING] - http://on.mash.to/gYJD2G not seen this, but forewarned is forearmed...Mar 02 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Interesting video: http://bankofamericasuck.com/Mar 02 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Announcement: http://bit.ly/gFw7Jp RT @gregkh: #Linux 2.6.32.30 #kernel now releasedMar 02 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 11.6 Hours Scam Spreading on Twitter .::. Size~: 73.71 KBMar 02 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Bank Of America Fraud And Corruption Documents. .::. Size~: 48.52 KBMar 02 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBMar 02 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if App Store is too generic to trademark, so is #Windows http://tighturl.com/2zcc good pointMar 02 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mrbrown: Gay rights activists ask 6 political parties to state their gay position http://mrbrwn.co/dYfV7R #fbMar 02 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Add More Layouts To gMusicBrowser With gMusicBrowser-Art http://bit.ly/e8FOAPMar 02 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If App Store's Trademark Is Generic, So Is Windows' - Slashdot .::. Size~: 130.66 KBMar 02 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TODAYonline | Singapore | Gay rights activists ask six political parties to state their stand .::. Size~: 90.96 KBMar 02 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Add More Layouts To gMusicBrowser With gMusicBrowser-Art ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.28 KBMar 02 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Outfit Suffers Huge #DDoS Attack, Blames Usenet Users - http://bit.ly/hLycAE #BREIN goes down the drein...Mar 02 15:17
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMar 02 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Qaddafi Military Spending Below Sweden | Bloomberg http://is.gd/0OXaKD !wlMar 02 15:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qaddafi Military Spending Below Sweden, Leaves Authority Gap - Businessweek .::. Size~: 61.02 KBMar 02 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anti-Piracy Outfit Suffers Huge DDoS Attack, Blames Usenet Users http://ping.fm/AnQ31Mar 02 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Outfit Suffers Huge #DDoS Attack, Blames Usenet Users - http://bit.ly/i4jWpl #BREIN goes down the drein...Mar 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Stop the Crackdown http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?slideshow http://bit.ly/hkSQCZMar 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Qaddafi Military Spending Below Sweden | Bloomberg http://is.gd/0OXaKD http://bit.ly/fCjqVvMar 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Acquires Firm Hostile Towards Free Software, a #Microsoft Ally http://ur1.ca/3df1b #fortfy #entryism #security #fudMar 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] HP Acquires Firm Hostile Towards Free Software, a Microsoft Ally http://ur1.ca/3df1b #fortify #meego #nokia #intel #hurdMar 02 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting comment around plagiarism, attribution and open source code http://bbc.in/hr9PXW #FOSSMar 02 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe confirms raids on #ebook publishers - http://bit.ly/ebrhdC worried about "cartels and other restrictive practices". what larksMar 02 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #BBC #iPlayer to be available internationally this year for less than $10 per month - http://bit.ly/eCUe0f sounds reasonableMar 02 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Harald Sitter: How to Create a Media Player in 30 Seconds http://goo.gl/ZGfPNMar 02 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Eye on Security: Windows and Mac OS X Can’t Get Security Right http://ur1.ca/3df2x #security #windows #apple #microsoftMar 02 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Security: Windows and Mac OS X Can’t Get Security Right http://ur1.ca/3df2x #security !windows !apple !microsoftMar 02 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I have more trust and faith with ietf than itu-t! http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3287Mar 02 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] ♺ @schestowitz: Getting Started With Linux: Why Install Linux? http://ur1.ca/3d804 for answer, please see gnu.org ;-)Mar 02 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Spain is Still Against the EU Patent http://ur1.ca/3df6j #swpats #spain #euMar 02 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spain is Still Against the EU Patent http://ur1.ca/3df6j #patents #ps3 #lg #embargoMar 02 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lxnews London Stock Exchange Problems Not Due to Linux http://lxnews.org/2011/03/02/london-stock-exchange-problems-not-linux/Mar 02 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ghabuntu When the SAVAGES bombard #Gaza http://ping.fm/jVPl5 WARNING: Graphic ImagesMar 02 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Practically Radical Webcast w/ Bill Taylor & Polly LaBarre in 10 minutes | join now http://bit.ly/hTBGGxMar 02 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] 1994 picture with Linus and Maddog RT @linus_torvalds Glamorous pictures? The event last weekend was a "no cameras"[..] http://bit.ly/grk9blMar 02 15:55
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DaemonFCsudo alien -r jono.debMar 02 15:56
DaemonFCmuahaahahahaaaaMar 02 15:56
jonololMar 02 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Don't swallow this pill - http://bit.ly/gdowNZ "#India needs to stand strong and resist European demands"; or else many will dieMar 02 15:57
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DaemonFCthe only reason I've ever had to use Alien is when I was pillaging koji.fedoraproject.org for something Ubuntu doesn't provideMar 02 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barnier tells European Blind Union the EU does not support a treaty for persons with #disabilities - http://bit.ly/heXyfO such hypocrisyMar 02 15:59
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DaemonFCit works about half the time, sometimes it bombs out and says it can't convert the rpm scriptsMar 02 15:59
DaemonFCso much for the LSBMar 02 15:59
DaemonFCbut what are standards for anyway? :)Mar 02 15:59
DaemonFCjono knows that Ubuntu doesn't need no stinkin' LSBMar 02 16:00
DaemonFCthey would have made a USB except that acronym was takenMar 02 16:00
DaemonFCand in that USB would have been passive popups and lots of purple and orangeMar 02 16:01
DaemonFCI love it when a distribution changes the way things have always been done just to fuck with the usersMar 02 16:01
DaemonFCby all accounts I should be using Ubuntu and embracing UnityMar 02 16:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:02
DaemonFCnothing brings me more joy than having to rewrite every makefile I come across so GCC on Fedora can understand it, except possibly the carpal tunnel I get from trying to use the window controls on UbuntuMar 02 16:03
DaemonFChelp me jono, you're my last hope :)Mar 02 16:03
jonoDaemonFC, well,you could always use Fedora if you don't like Ubuntu or Unity :-)Mar 02 16:03
jonoalthough I hope we don't lose youMar 02 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jpope Just realized that I find it hard to listen to alot of other podcasts. I've been spoiled by the great audio quality of linuxoutlawsMar 02 16:04
DaemonFCmillions of dollars to Mat Asay and he gave you left handed window controls and resignedMar 02 16:04
DaemonFCthat has to burnMar 02 16:04
DaemonFCjono, you should hire me as your user interface designerMar 02 16:05
jonoDaemonFC, lolMar 02 16:05
DaemonFCof course I wouldn't last long because I'd come up with something that worked and keep it that wayMar 02 16:05
jonoDaemonFC, go on thenMar 02 16:05
DaemonFCI suspect that's why user interface designers don'tMar 02 16:05
jonolet's see your awesome UI :-)Mar 02 16:05
DaemonFCjob securityMar 02 16:05
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:05
jonohahaMar 02 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sequencing A Child’s #DNA — And Convincing An Insurance Company To Pay - http://bit.ly/eM4fOC will soon be norm #personalgenomicsMar 02 16:05
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jonobrb phoneMar 02 16:06
DaemonFCnext thing that Ubuntu will do I predict is take away the option of moving the window controls to the rightMar 02 16:06
DaemonFCthen some adventurous user will come up with a way to patch the X Server to flip the screen around and stick it in a PPAMar 02 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Laut der Staatsanwaltschaft Duisburg ist ein T-Shirt eine Uniform. http://outl.ws/eDXDi2 -- ehhhh..... WHUT!?Mar 02 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] tweet/videoing council meetings redux: progress on two fronts - http://bit.ly/hzX96p great, but why call them "hyperlocal"? (v @paul_clarke)Mar 02 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Come meet us! We're planning an event: http://tinyurl.com/lxfroundtableMar 02 16:07
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DaemonFCof course all the text will be backwards, but the window controls will be correctMar 02 16:07
DaemonFCand I can read backwards easier than fishing for window controls on the leftMar 02 16:08
DaemonFCjono: The first thing I'm going to do in my position at Canonical is to negotiate with Microsoft to use their IP relating to Webdings and WingdingsMar 02 16:09
DaemonFCI think they present a style and sophistication that Ubuntu is lacking which is keeping potential users awayMar 02 16:09
DaemonFCactually, now that I think about it, does anyone know what use case those fonts were made for?Mar 02 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jetzt mal ganz ehrlich, ich bin bei dem Thema (offensichtlich) befangen aber..... WAS BITTE???? Hat die Stadt Duisburg den Arsch offen?Mar 02 16:10
DaemonFCwas it only about slipping in clever pictograms for NYC and JEW?Mar 02 16:11
DaemonFCor do people write letters with them?Mar 02 16:11
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WingdingsMar 02 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Unigine OilRush Pre-Order For Linux Now Open: On Monday I reported that pre-ordering for Unigine's OilRush Linux... http://bit.ly/dPd1RUMar 02 16:12
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DaemonFCaccording to Wikipedia, the patent on Wingdings expired in 2005Mar 02 16:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:12
DaemonFCnow when the MP3 ones expire, we'll have everything needed for a functional Linux desktopMar 02 16:13
DaemonFCwhat makes a font so important that one can copyright it and patent it?Mar 02 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Bill Taylor - the challenges of making big, postive change in long established organizations | http://bit.ly/hTBGGx #oywfMar 02 16:15
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DaemonFCor create PR churn with them (Ubuntu)Mar 02 16:15
DaemonFCobviously they're not difficult to makeMar 02 16:16
DaemonFCall you have to do to harass other office suites (Microsoft) is to come up with a few obvious font designs, patent them, and only use those in MS OfficeMar 02 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How can any business work to outperform their competition when front line people don't know the value? | http://bit.ly/hTBGGx #oywfMar 02 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] V&A Shortlists Designs For Major Expansion - http://bit.ly/ftSiEI bring back Libeskind's Spiral #pusillanimity #architectureMar 02 16:17
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*DaemonFC replaces jono's fonts with a mixture of Tahoma and Lucida SansMar 02 16:17
DaemonFCit's the only thing left you can do to a brown, purple, and orange desktopMar 02 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IEEE is Still Against Scientists, Protects Monopolies Instead http://ur1.ca/3dfgbMar 02 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Bill Taylor "It's not good enough anymore to be good enough at everything" | http://bit.ly/hTBGGx #oywfMar 02 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] IEEE is Still Against Scientists, Protects Monopolies Instead http://ur1.ca/3dfgb #swpats #reform #patents]Mar 02 16:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz: You're against IEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX?Mar 02 16:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:20
*DaemonFC thinks it sounds like a penny caught in a vacuum cleanerMar 02 16:20
*DaemonFC is glad they changed IEEE-X to POSIXMar 02 16:21
DaemonFCspeaking of coinsMar 02 16:22
*DaemonFC rounds some up to donate to the cat shelter when he goes to the gas station for another mt dewMar 02 16:22
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: Fun fact: 2% of all ER admissions due to cat related injuries are because of the cat throwing itself down in front of the person and tripping themMar 02 16:23
DaemonFCconsidering all the near misses that I've had with Jabba, I would have thought it would be moreMar 02 16:23
DaemonFCwhy do they do that?Mar 02 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Glamorous pictures? - http://bit.ly/dQKixo #Linus bares all...of his knee #DECUSMar 02 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Should Netflix have gotten an Oscar? @practicallyrad thinks so - @Netflix changed the game | http://bit.ly/hTBGGx #oywfMar 02 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @samanthamf: @f4bs ué... não era pra licenciar como software público? e a IN 1/2011? http://va.mu/APX http://va.mu/AQM #irpfMar 02 16:24
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DaemonFC"Oh, here, you're following me, so I'll throw myself down in front of you and roll over"Mar 02 16:24
DaemonFChttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Lucida_Console_sample.svgMar 02 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Upgrading Through Every Version of #Windows [Video] - http://bit.ly/eF1IMs how on earth did it end up with a monopoly with this lot?Mar 02 16:25
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DaemonFCThe Blue Screen of Death fontMar 02 16:26
DaemonFCLucida ConsoleMar 02 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva But more important I have computer support from local !Ubuntu users. As I gain confidence I may migrate further into #freedomMar 02 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Project Gutenberg adds their 40,000th free #eBook! - http://bit.ly/ePMdf5 hooray, only a few hundred million to go... #opencontentMar 02 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Software Patents + Litigation = Misconduct http://ur1.ca/3dfj9 #swpats #RosenthalCollins #patents #monopolyMar 02 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents + Litigation = #Misconduct http://ur1.ca/3dfj9 #usptoMar 02 16:27
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DaemonFCGoing from Windows Me to XP was the worst Windows upgrade I hadMar 02 16:27
DaemonFCI ended up having to clean install because everything was already busted before my first bootMar 02 16:28
DaemonFC"notice the ASCII art rendering of a floppy drive"Mar 02 16:29
DaemonFCMicrosoft is 1337Mar 02 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva You tech folk don't realize just how intimidating a move this is to non-tech folk. It is very scary indeed.Mar 02 16:29
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*DaemonFC gives jono his box copy of Windows 3.0 and Multimedia Extensions for Windows 3.0Mar 02 16:30
DaemonFCfor some applications, that works better than UbuntuMar 02 16:30
DaemonFCUbuntu doesn't handle some midi keyboards all that wellMar 02 16:30
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #BBC Multimedia Journalism Head Clifton Redundant - http://bit.ly/h8QQWc chucking away what online reputation it ever had...sadMar 02 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva !Trisquel has a pretty name though... I'll see if I can slip it into a discussion of software had by tech characters in my novel ;DMar 02 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Urgent question for leaders and innovators: Are you learning as fast as the world is changing? | time for Q&A | http://bit.ly/hTBGGx #oywfMar 02 16:31
DaemonFCespecially when they need a parallel portMar 02 16:31
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DaemonFCbut that's a limitation of the Linux kernelMar 02 16:31
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:31
DaemonFCnotice how all the Windows 9x versions let the user keep the older version of Windows and dual bootMar 02 16:31
DaemonFCthat stopped with Windows Vista, Microsoft now claims that the upgrade media and the old version of Windows are the same product and youMar 02 16:32
DaemonFCare not licensed to use the last versionMar 02 16:32
DaemonFCthis is useful to them now for selling more expensive editions of Windows that can run XP in Virtual PC and it sends some business to VMWare, and makes you buy a new license for the old version of WindowsMar 02 16:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva @thistleweb Ooh, I peeked at the #Trisquel group and I *love* the logo... and distro named for "Taranis" the Celtic god of thunder?Mar 02 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva I'd be careful of patterning a #Trisquel release on Ubuntu 10.10 which has some serious media problemsMar 02 16:37
DaemonFCUbuntu does improve on Debian in the area of kernel latencyMar 02 16:38
DaemonFCDebian's kernel is clearly configured for a server and does not work that well on a desktopMar 02 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] There's nothing wrong in your organization that can't be fixed by the good in your org - @practicallyrad | http://bit.ly/ii5SMI #oywfMar 02 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wish they'd include #Opera in that hacking contest re, http://bit.ly/gRT13k via @Jankovitch #firefox #chromeMar 02 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @a1049: @_x4o @AnonymousIRC: ICARUS has crash-landed. No Op, voted down!Mar 02 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Project Gutenberg adds their 40,000th free #eBook! - http://bit.ly/ePMdf5 hooray, only a few hundred million to go...Mar 02 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AICTE’s (India) Back Room Deals With Microsoft: Taxpayers Stay Out! http://ur1.ca/3dfnl #india #fiasco challenged by @nsisodiyaMar 02 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #AICTE (India) Back Room Deals With Microsoft: Taxpayers Stay Out! http://ur1.ca/3dfnl #microsoft #indoctrinationMar 02 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: PlotKit Quick Start | liquidx: http://bit.ly/faoRuhMar 02 16:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz: LIkewise has their software in UbuntuMar 02 16:46
DaemonFCwhen did this happen?Mar 02 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz AICTE’s (India) Back Room Deals With Microsoft: Taxpayers Stay Out! http://ur1.ca/3dfnl #india #fiasco challenged by @ns ...Mar 02 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "It's logical to go radical" @practicallyrad rethink, re-imagine | http://bit.ly/ii5SMI #oywfMar 02 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Ubuntu 10.4 was fine (that's what I'm switching to no way am I risking 10.10)Mar 02 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Note to Software Distros: Alphas and Betas are fine for techs... Users would rather you don't release it until it WORKSMar 02 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Yeah, but my kid can hold my hand through the rough spots.Mar 02 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter The alternative I was considering was Mint because of a seminar i went to at the last TO LinuxFest for ease of media...Mar 02 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...because I when the books are ok I MUST learn linux video editing 'cause I'm way behind on soccer video, must be done B4 kid graduatesMar 02 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This is how bullshit ends up being history: Spielberg lines up WikiLeaks film based on books by opportunists http://t.co/bommDn6 !wlMar 02 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 Of it's any consolation, it's been rather a while since Spielberg made a decent movieMar 02 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BSA is Lobbying (and Lying) to Exclude Software Freedom From the British Public Sector http://ur1.ca/3dfrf HT @glynmoody @carlopianaMar 02 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #BSA is Lobbying (and Lying) to Exclude Software Freedom From the British Public Sector http://ur1.ca/3dfrf #swpats #uk #lobbying #fossMar 02 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz #BSA is Lobbying (and Lying) to Exclude Software Freedom From the British Public Sector http://ur1.ca/3dfrf HT @glynmoo ...Mar 02 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in a world where people live and work indoors and need to fart, #windows will always be requiredMar 02 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Thanks, I'll look at it. Somebody should make a good stable basic editor that allows straight cutting w/o a ton of unneeded featuresMar 02 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @schestowitz: #BSA is Lobbying (and Lying) to Exclude Software Freedom From the British Public Sector http://ur1.ca/3dfrfMar 02 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I was going to take an hour this morning to finish a blog articla about the HarperCollins Overdrive Insanity #hcod JUST SAY NO!Mar 02 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.32.30-libre2 now availableMar 02 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Las gestiones conjuntas de los gobiernos de Chile y EE.UU. para salvar a termoeléctrica de AES Gener http://is.gd/doKg4U !wlMar 02 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] but I ended up having to write emails explaining the content of the #Twitter DMs that I'd sent but that disappeared. A #NEWTwitter #FAIL?Mar 02 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My experience is that #NEWTwitter DMs are unstable... if you want to DM me, do it in Identi.ca (100% human followback) or email cc @TwitterMar 02 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How the US won the Cola war in Libya | Reuters http://alturl.com/6tneh !wlMar 02 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 5 environmental revelations from WikiLeaks http://is.gd/T9PeE5 !wlMar 02 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] second cup of coffee; I like how this day is going so farMar 02 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 'Inhumane Treatment of WikiLeaks Soldier Bradley Manning' http://is.gd/P4CKT8 !wlMar 02 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: 5 environmental revelations from WikiLeaks http://is.gd/T9PeE5 http://bit.ly/ge34OUMar 02 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: 'Inhumane Treatment of WikiLeaks Soldier Bradley Manning' http://is.gd/P4CKT8 http://bit.ly/fo3cQpMar 02 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] No one punished after WikiLeaks video and surprise! happens again '9 Afghan Boys Killed' http://nyti.ms/e2D6FI !wlMar 02 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Looks like Murdoch will sell Sky News and Government will push through BskyB saleMar 02 17:29
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DaemonFCmy first Fedora kernel compilationMar 02 17:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 17:32
*DaemonFC goes to read what fanotify is all aboutMar 02 17:32
DaemonFCit sounded cool so I turned it on B-)Mar 02 17:32
DaemonFClooks like it was proposed for Fedora 12 and rejected because at that time it was a patch against the kernelMar 02 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FOX bald faced lies http://alturl.com/j6jkt vs. reality: http://collateralmurder.com/ !wlMar 02 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Drinking !tea with half my face numbMar 02 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Choosing between portability and innovation http://lwn.net/Articles/430598/rssMar 02 17:37
DaemonFCas I recall, the "akmods" will build against any kernel, not just the ones from FedoraMar 02 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @kdeindia Thank you all for such an wonderful response for conf.kde.in, the first Qt and KDE conference in India. The registration is ...Mar 02 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @SciTri: GSK's lawsuit over HIV/AIDS drug pricing has first day in court. (Motley Fool) http://bit.ly/fHfmOR #SITTMar 02 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @gomerx: BREAKING: Mark Shuttleworth rolls out Canonical plan to punch kittens for cash. "Hey, anything to make a buck," Shuttleworth saysMar 02 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Started reading The Satanic Verses last night; hilarious for even someone who knows little of subcontinental/British cultureMar 02 17:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: you scared jono awayMar 02 17:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jospoortvliet/status/42989465047793665Mar 02 17:41
TechrightsBot-tr@jospoortvliet: @azuthian Well I haven't checked the stats myself but according to the article I linked @schestowitz is wrong...Mar 02 17:41
DaemonFCpunching kittens for cash should have scared jono away (see above)Mar 02 17:41
schestowitzI've made no such claim.Mar 02 17:41
DaemonFCif jono was any kind of decent, he's stand up against punching kittens for cashMar 02 17:41
schestowitzSome fool is misquoting me or making stuff up :-(Mar 02 17:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 17:41
*DaemonFC happens to like catsMar 02 17:42
DaemonFCthey are useless, but fluffy, and they are cuteMar 02 17:43
DaemonFCthis gets you far in the worldMar 02 17:43
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 17:43
DaemonFCFedora's kernel config makes a hell of a lot more sense than Ubuntu'sMar 02 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Gravitational time dilation - Wikipedia: http://bit.ly/dNRak4Mar 02 17:44
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DaemonFCUbuntu turns a lot of things on that can't be used in UbuntuMar 02 17:44
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DaemonFCor could, but nobody using Ubuntu willMar 02 17:44
DaemonFCI doubt anyone using Ubuntu is using SMACK or AppArmor, half of them have never heard of AppArmor and it's running on their system causing things to seemingly fail for no reasonMar 02 17:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 17:45
DaemonFCerrr *SELinux in place of first AppArmorMar 02 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @reiter: @mirkoboehm on #qt, #kde : http://ping.fm/1EaS7. His conclusion: This is a political issue [..]That is why I will join the !fsfeMar 02 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk That sounds perfect. (I went to school to learn to edit film - physically cutting bits and taping them together)Mar 02 17:45
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DaemonFClike when Ubuntu had to go back and disable their Firefox profile because it was causing all kinds of seemingly random problems with, downloading filesMar 02 17:46
DaemonFCit's been sitting there deactivated for the last two releasesMar 02 17:46
DaemonFCI got bored one day and fixed it up well enough to provide some protection and not interfere with my use of FirefoxMar 02 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #SCO Found No Source Code In 2004 http://ur1.ca/3dg37Mar 02 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] United Airlines are a bunch of dicks... yes, I realize thats not news http://ur1.ca/3dg39Mar 02 17:49
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DaemonFCthat's interestingMar 02 17:49
DaemonFCahhhhMar 02 17:49
*DaemonFC wondered why his CPU went to one core in major use and noticed rpmbuild is workingMar 02 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Uhh-oh the iBad 2 launch coverage begins. Time to stay away from tech news sites/blogs for a while !Mar 02 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] My new news source, screw @NPR! http://www.x11r5.com/radio/Mar 02 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Buckingham Palace announced today that the BBC will be the official sycophant for the royal wedding #humourMar 02 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Costa Rica: EE. UU.: Gobierno de Arias supo cómo votaría Sala IV sobre TLC http://is.gd/tAAEuJ !wlMar 02 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Thinking of buying an Alfa Romeo 4C ConceptMar 02 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF asks Supreme Court to focus on privacy in prescription history data mining battle https://eff.org/r.z7jMar 02 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a movie evening with some !BUSC friends...Mar 02 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/430628/rssMar 02 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tom's Definitive Linux Software Roundup: Audio Production (Tom's Hardware) http://lwn.net/Articles/430670/rssMar 02 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] "Internet freedom" politician Al Franken speaks out for online censorship https://eff.org/r.3zk #COICA #CopyfightMar 02 18:35
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DaemonFC"Among the most noticeable features are the simplification of the initial setup steps"Mar 02 18:43
DaemonFCheh, the thing I noticed about Mandriva's isntaller is there's no back buttonMar 02 18:43
*DaemonFC wishes that would changeMar 02 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden was point man in pre-arranged Ahmadenijad UN walk-out http://alturl.com/n6yy5 !wlMar 02 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel Is Readying The xf86-video-intel 2.15 Driver: With it nearing the end of the quarter, Intel's OSTC team wo... http://bit.ly/gny9RuMar 02 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] House panel vote delayed on #netneutrality rules repeal https://eff.org/r.2zmMar 02 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Anti-bully effort grows in Montgomery County schools http://ur1.ca/3dge9 #Clarksville #TNMar 02 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxfoundation: Original: Writers Rejoice: First Look at Scrivener for Linux http://bit.ly/dXGo27 #linux #gnu #scrivenerMar 02 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Sign up at this site which requires nonfree software in order to participate in my free software discussion! #reallytiredofthisMar 02 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] BSA is Lobbying (and Lying) to Exclude Software Freedom From the British Public Sector http://is.gd/3WoKBV #bsa #gnu #linux #fossMar 02 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Spain is Still Against the #EU #Patent http://is.gd/8S3OAwMar 02 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: ZeptoLab’s popular puzzle game Cut the Rope is coming soon to !Android http://goo.gl/stqy1Mar 02 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #HP Acquires Firm Hostile Towards Free Software, a #Microsoft Ally http://is.gd/2iklFp #gnu #linuxMar 02 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] The idea of renting etextbooks is obscene. To such lows we've allowed the excesses of copyright & #DRM to drag 21st century education.Mar 02 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Writer Must Read: @JulieeJohnsonn's "You Know You’re A Writer When…12 reasons!" http://ur1.ca/3dgiq #WWMar 02 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @eff: Matt Blaze: The Internet could make academic scholarship more democratic, unless IEEE and ACM have their way. https://eff.org/r.5zhMar 02 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone tried #Splashtop? I'm curiousMar 02 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @tius: please write to nicole.seligman@am.sony.com and tell her stop harassing hackers #dbd #fsf #lp #lpitMar 02 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kokothekoala: #blag 140k RC1 released http://ur1.ca/3dcd9 : almost good for production environment #fsf #linuxlibre #gnullMar 02 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva ♻ @tius: please write to nicole.seligman@am.sony.com and tell her stop harassing hackers #dbd #fsf #lp #lpitMar 02 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva The sad part about is that the decisionmaker gets to wriggle out of responsibility & drown subordinate in email.Mar 02 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Splashtop: Linux for Windows users http://is.gd/P8XIRk #windows #microsoft #gnu #linux #splashtopMar 02 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SaudiArabia goes down on March11/2011?Mar 02 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] back to work > #am writing !Listening to @Allison_Crowe < I like her music/versatility enough that I bought FLAAC dls of everything :DMar 02 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The 40 Fires Foundation takes an open source approach to developing energy-efficient technology http://is.gd/mfxoiz #foss #gnu #carMar 02 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] There will never be an IE 9 for XP http://is.gd/NDkL4O #microsoft #windows #webMar 02 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @NeelieKroesEU Thank you CHIP magazine Germany for "IT personality of the year" award tonight #cebit11Mar 02 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] downloading blag14k, maybe it'll replace !trisquel (I kinda have a connection to fedora on a low level, rh6 was my first distro)Mar 02 19:30
DaemonFCuhhm, duhMar 02 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Eerie: Google search complete for 'Wikileaks' or 'Julian Assange' followed by 'is', 'will', 'must', 'should' http://google.com/ !wlMar 02 19:34
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DaemonFCaside from the fact Microsoft already said no IE for XP months ago, it wasn't likely anywayMar 02 19:34
DaemonFCthat would mean backporting DirectX10/11 to XP tooMar 02 19:34
DaemonFCplus there are actually some features that only work on Vista and 7, like the sandboxMar 02 19:35
DaemonFCthose already don't work on IE 8 XPMar 02 19:35
DaemonFCnot that it matters much, it's still IE on WindowsMar 02 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #ODF spreadsheets produced by #Microsoft #Excel 2007 SP2 and newer are NOT conformant to #ISO http://is.gd/t2TYLb http://is.gd/iN9L4w #gnuMar 02 19:35
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MinceRdidn't some guys already backport DirectSUX 10 and/or 11 to XP?Mar 02 19:35
DaemonFCno, they said they would but it never happenedMar 02 19:36
DaemonFClargely because most of the Vista exclusives were using DirectX 9 and jsut refusing to run on XPMar 02 19:36
DaemonFCuntil they were cracked of course :)Mar 02 19:36
MinceR:>Mar 02 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gwidion: É contra-senso falar "intervenção do Estado no direito autoral". Direito autoral é criação do Estado, não existe fora dele.Mar 02 19:37
DaemonFCMinceR: the executable checks for features that only the version of Windows they are "supporting" has, which aren't actually used anywhere else in the programMar 02 19:37
MinceRthat's so m$Mar 02 19:37
DaemonFCEA was doing this to block Windows 2000 users from playing Command & Conquer 3Mar 02 19:38
DaemonFCif the tests fail, it throws a bogus error messageMar 02 19:38
DaemonFCWindows 7 not detected, go spend more moneyMar 02 19:38
DaemonFCand buy a new computer while you're outMar 02 19:38
DaemonFCMinceR: In the case of Halo 2 for Vista, they went a bit furtherMar 02 19:39
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DaemonFCthere were several parts of the game where it would test again Mar 02 19:39
DaemonFCand if the test fails, it crashes instead of loading next levelMar 02 19:40
DaemonFCI know this because I cracked it to run on XP, but the crack was apparently only tested on 32-bit Windows XPMar 02 19:40
DaemonFCand I had the x64 editionMar 02 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva trisquel also includes mp3 out of the box, iirc. Never had media problems with it.Mar 02 19:40
DaemonFCso I reached a point where the crack itself caused the game to crashMar 02 19:41
DaemonFCI managed to fix it Mar 02 19:41
DaemonFCit doesn't actually use any Vista features that aren't supported on XP, it just intentionally crashes if you don't have VistaMar 02 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva otoh my collection is near purely flac ;PMar 02 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Come and get em, More Software Updates to MeeGo 1.1 and 1.0 http://mge.bz/4CMar 02 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @danielmarti The Nokia !N950 will feature a !gnu !linux !MeeGo OS, 1.2GHz processor and 768MB of RAM. http://news.google.ie/news/sear ...Mar 02 19:42
DaemonFCthey haven't changed at all since the AARD code in Windows 3.1 betaMar 02 19:42
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DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_codeMar 02 19:43
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DaemonFCthis Built for Vista7 crap is just AARD 2.0Mar 02 19:43
MinceRaardwolfMar 02 19:44
gnufreexSo N950 will come out?Mar 02 19:44
gnufreexElop will let it out?Mar 02 19:44
MinceRi wouldn't bet on itMar 02 19:44
DaemonFC"What the [user] is supposed to do is feel uncomfortable, and when he has bugs, suspect that the problem is DR-DOS and then go out to buy MS-DOS."Mar 02 19:45
gnufreexHe maybe let it out broken, to tarnish reputation on MeeGoMar 02 19:45
MinceRelop revealed himself to be the spy he was suspected to be, so every announcement and move of mokia is now suspectMar 02 19:45
MinceRthat's possible tooMar 02 19:45
DaemonFCthis time you're supposed to suspect that Windows XP is too old to run your gameMar 02 19:45
MinceRDaemonFC: and you'll rightly find that the problem is winblowsMar 02 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kirschner @documentfreedom done: and our !fellowship #dfd event in #berlin and #hamburg will rock #dfd2011 :)Mar 02 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @planetfedora Hernan Vivani: Full migration to Linux: Back in 2004 Postres Balcarce S.A. – The production company of tradition... htt ...Mar 02 19:45
MinceRgo install gnu/linuxMar 02 19:45
MinceR:>Mar 02 19:45
DaemonFCWine runs old Windows games better on average than Windows 7 does anywayMar 02 19:46
DaemonFCif the DOOM source code hadn't been GPL'd, there'd be no way to run some of the Windows 9x DOOM games nowMar 02 19:46
DaemonFCon Windows anywayMar 02 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Full migration to GNU/Linux http://is.gd/3OBaB5 #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsMar 02 19:47
DaemonFCthanks to modern source ports, lots of bugs have been fixed, features added that weren't in the original engine, and it supports the latest versions of WindowsMar 02 19:47
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DaemonFCgames that didn't have their engines open sourced just diedMar 02 19:47
DaemonFCid software always open sources their old engines when they're too old to make money fromMar 02 19:48
MinceRFPS engines, that isMar 02 19:48
MinceRat least i don't remember seeing their platformer engines open sourced, for example :>Mar 02 19:49
*MinceR reads Masters of Doom nowadaysMar 02 19:49
DaemonFCwonder why that isMar 02 19:51
DaemonFCwhat harm would it do to release the Commander Keen engine? :)Mar 02 19:51
MinceR:)Mar 02 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: RT @smashingmag The @Font-Face Rule and Useful Web Font Tricks http://bit.ly/g9N9teMar 02 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 177 dents!Mar 02 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: #Motorola #Xoom versus the #iPad 2 --- the Xoom is a clear winner by @pgralla http://bit.ly/evmgYW #apple #cebit #cebit11Mar 02 19:54
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DaemonFCMinceR: I think I have my boxed set of Caldera OpenLinux somewhereMar 02 19:55
DaemonFCI got a boxed set of it for cheap at Staples in the 90sMar 02 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firefox 4 RC expected to ship roughly on March 9 http://is.gd/Ma7htC #firefox #mozilla #firefox4 #ie #chrome #googleMar 02 19:55
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DaemonFCit wasn't bad, but Red Hat was betterMar 02 19:56
gnufreexDaemonFC: You can burn it ritualy when SCO is dead.Mar 02 19:56
DaemonFCthey figured they couldn't compete, so sueMar 02 19:56
DaemonFCI guessMar 02 19:56
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DaemonFCgnufreex: SCO/Caldera used GPL-licensed Linux source code in the UnixWare kernelMar 02 19:56
DaemonFCto enable the Linux Kernel PersonalityMar 02 19:57
MinceRi think my "Linux" book came with a copy of Caldera OpenLinuxMar 02 19:57
gnufreexWell.. that is violationMar 02 19:57
MinceR:>Mar 02 19:57
DaemonFCthat makes all of UnixWare a GPL violationMar 02 19:57
gnufreexNovell still sells that?Mar 02 19:57
gnufreexThey probably hired folks who wrote that particular code.Mar 02 19:57
MinceRDaemonFC: maybe that's why sco tried to pretend gnu/linux is theirs?Mar 02 19:57
gnufreexNow when they got firedMar 02 19:57
gnufreexAttackmate can get suedMar 02 19:57
gnufreexIf they want to sue, that isMar 02 19:58
gnufreexIt is on those people who wrote itMar 02 19:58
DaemonFCthey couldn't write the Linux Kernel Personality as quickly as they did and get it to work as well as it did without copy pasting Linux codeMar 02 19:58
DaemonFCthey've always avoided the questionMar 02 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux Mint 11 "Katya" to use GNOME 3 http://is.gd/DWtkjM #gnu #linux #mint #gnome #ubuntu #gnome3Mar 02 19:59
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DaemonFCAttachMate says OpenSuse will go on unchangedMar 02 19:59
DaemonFCwe'll seeMar 02 19:59
gnufreexNovell got bought by online dating service.Mar 02 19:59
gnufreexThat is how it soundsMar 02 20:00
DaemonFCand that's not necessarily a good thing because it's already been stuffed full of Microsoft patents like a thanksgiving turkeyMar 02 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Does EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn secretly control the internet? More here: https://eff.org/r.z7nMar 02 20:00
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DaemonFCgnufreex: AttachMate mainly supports legacy UNIX crap from what I can tellMar 02 20:02
DaemonFCand has never had an open source product Mar 02 20:02
gnufreexI knowMar 02 20:02
gnufreexbut Attach MateMar 02 20:02
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gnufreexLike an online dating sericeMar 02 20:03
gnufreexThat is first asociationMar 02 20:03
gnufreex*serviceMar 02 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: #Zeitgeist proceedings for !GNOME 3.0, !Unity and #KDE http://goo.gl/DdbOCMar 02 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal: FAST Win7 #KVM VirtIO{Disk-Net} Install http://goo.gl/5p0NgMar 02 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Dungeon Defenders bringing cross-platform multiplayer gaming, but not to everyone http://goo.gl/OvrIB !androidMar 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @stav: Seems to me that #iPad 2 has not caught up to #android #xoom http://ur1.ca/3dgsh < caught between catching up and pushing it out?Mar 02 20:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's the position where apple performs worst. Same thing happened with Windows XP which was miles better than Mac OS at that timeMar 02 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Balanced Copyright Facebook Group - Persona Management Software Example? http://bit.ly/gOLZKG #copyright #hbgary #anonymousMar 02 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @thistleweb Traditional publishing is working on extinguishing itself. My 80 year old Dad reads the newspaper online.Mar 02 20:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Firefox 4 RC expected to ship roughly on March 9 | ZDNet http://ping.fm/AmL6FMar 02 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osvaldo/@osvaldo] !wikileaks started a forum http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/ Some #socialmedia gurus are going to freak out! http://goo.gl/1MC2kMar 02 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osvaldo/@osvaldo] !wikileaks started a forum http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/ Some #socialmedia gurus are going to freak out!Mar 02 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: BizReply: a simple text answering feature for #Maemo platforms http://goo.gl/WZcTZ #OviStore #N900Mar 02 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Friendly FM: a native looking widget to switch the FM transmitter http://goo.gl/M7WBb #N900 #MaemoMar 02 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @vgrade: Tegra #meego qtdemos http://t.co/LDnmJDX #QtMar 02 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Dorm sweet dorm. Got my phone, and only cost me five hours and 30$. #sighMar 02 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @DemocracyCanada Latest poll -- False alarm on possible Conservative majority: http://bit.ly/hgzlSu #cdnpoli < roflMar 02 20:32
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DaemonFChttp://www.techeye.net/software/ubuntu-fast-becoming-linux-pariahMar 02 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: ‘Kibaki unwilling to act on graft’ http://is.gd/Z9Jba4 !wlMar 02 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @marjoleink: special/retrospect on the Egyption uprising now on Al Jazeera English http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/Mar 02 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Double Slit Experiment YouTube - Dr Quantum -: http://bit.ly/eE81tOMar 02 20:44
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DaemonFChttp://www.webmonkey.com/2011/03/opera-11-5-preview-shows-off-hardware-acceleration/comment-page-1/Mar 02 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @KaylaCagan I don't want to freak anyone out, but ever notice Charlie Sheen and Dr. Oz are never in the same place? THINK ABOUT IT. ʘ¬ʘMar 02 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Mobile Linux Roundup: #meego v. #android v. #webos. A developer's view. http://bit.ly/fVVCd0 #linuxMar 02 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows has REAL SAFE passwords! http://is.gd/XXhH0N http://is.gd/tVZPVi #microsoft #windows #linux #gnu #securityMar 02 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] DoJ may block Microsoft-Novell patent deal, claims NY Post source: http://wmk.me/gOnPTzMar 02 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke Quiz Of The Week: http://goo.gl/dJen9Mar 02 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla’s Comments in Response to the FTC’s Inquiry on Privacy http://bit.ly/eKIcbDMar 02 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: March 2, 2011 http://mzl.la/fwmke2Mar 02 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @oli2be: A Bigger Revolution Is Brewing http://bit.ly/g3aErl /@1913Intel #Saudi #China [+] < We can only hope I guessMar 02 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mozilla: Mozilla’s Comments in Response to the FTC’s Inquiry on Privacy http://bit.ly/eKIcbDMar 02 21:00
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DaemonFCI've got a better idea than Do Not Track, it's called ad blockingMar 02 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @linuxfoundation: Mobile Linux Roundup: #meego v. #android v. #webos. A developer's view. http://bit.ly/fVVCd0 #linuxMar 02 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Timezone Repost: Is Mozilla Open-By-Rule? http://wmk.me/e8GlqZMar 02 21:04
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DaemonFChard to believe I'm the first person to think of itMar 02 21:04
DaemonFCand it worksMar 02 21:04
DaemonFCI'm going to be richMar 02 21:04
DaemonFCMinceR: Which island should I buy after I sell Mozilla a license to my IP?Mar 02 21:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Writers Rejoice: First Look at Scrivener for Linux http://ping.fm/bMLKkMar 02 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @seawolf Angry Birds infographic awesomeness http://bit.ly/geYCci (r @alisongow) !androidMar 02 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Japanese Phone Makers Look to Ride !Android’s Surge - NYTimes.com http://ping.fm/OMoQ5Mar 02 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Mamz an Amazon MP3 downloader for #Maemo #N900 needs a deb packager please help if you can http://is.gd/1FsxwAMar 02 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webmink: DoJ may block Microsoft-Novell patent deal, claims NY Post source: http://wmk.me/gOnPTzMar 02 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @patrickDurusau: Health Data Sources http://bit.ly/hXjdoy #topicmaps #data #healthdata #healthMar 02 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux !Mint 11 Katya to use GNOME 3 - The H Open Source: News and Features http://post.ly/1h0bnMar 02 21:12
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DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_GeneralMar 02 21:13
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DaemonFCI dug that out, it works on Wine :)Mar 02 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @mageia You can now follow what is happening in #Mageia on the calendar http://dlvr.it/J4ZBbMar 02 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must Read:The Battle for Control — What People Who Worry About the Internet Are Really Worried About http://ur1.ca/3dh74 cc @TonyClement_MPMar 02 21:15
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DaemonFCsebsebseb: I'm glad they're giving the Mandriva repositories an enemaMar 02 21:16
DaemonFCMandriva has been carrying around things for years that don't work or won't buildMar 02 21:16
DaemonFCthey don't usually make it into a release, but they're in CookerMar 02 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Giving children the power to be scientists at Physorg http://ping.fm/nPwRnMar 02 21:17
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: a what?Mar 02 21:18
DaemonFCnevermindMar 02 21:18
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 21:18
DaemonFCglad I have the DOS version of Allied GeneralMar 02 21:20
DaemonFCthe Windows one says I don't have 256 color graphicsMar 02 21:20
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Join us at the Reader Round Table! by @TuxRadar !Linux http://ping.fm/PB5dVMar 02 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Controversy surrounds !RedHat's "obfuscated" source code release http://ping.fm/537meMar 02 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @cryojenx: #Apple's old sloagan "Think Different" has morphed into "Don't think, buy". #ThinkFreely #LinuxMar 02 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Who is Yael Schestowitz?Mar 02 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose !Redhat could really target it by offering helpers for #Centos, which would help #Oracle all that muchMar 02 21:29
gnufreexhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/02/feb_march_microbite/Mar 02 21:29
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gnufreexnot even microfans can defen elopMar 02 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Excellent! The Center for Inquiry launches national ad campaign: LivingWithoutReligion.org #CFI #agnostic #atheist #humanistMar 02 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] In any event, it will be interesting to see how much this delays #Oracle's copying tacticsMar 02 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Nice one! !Linux !Mint 11 Katya will use !Gnome 3 :) http://ur1.ca/3dh94Mar 02 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose !Redhat could really target it by offering helpers for #Centos, which wouldn't help #Oracle all that muchMar 02 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Lennart Poettering: systemd for Administrators, Part V http://bit.ly/e6E7G6Mar 02 21:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How Much Will MeeGo Cost Nokia: Can It Afford Not to Pay? By Kevin C. Tofel http://ping.fm/UyvsgMar 02 21:35
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DaemonFCI guess if SCOracle fucks you over, you can always replace your RELEASE RPM with one from CentOSMar 02 21:39
DaemonFCof course not if you've installed on XFS, you have to patch that in to the EL kernelMar 02 21:41
DaemonFCthat's one big improvement Oracle has, letting you use file systems that were there to begin with that Red Hat removesMar 02 21:41
gnufreexYeah, but they can't properly support tose FSsMar 02 21:43
gnufreexBetter use DebianMar 02 21:43
gnufreexThey can properly support Lustre.Mar 02 21:43
gnufreexAnd OCFSMar 02 21:43
gnufreexBut they cang GFSMar 02 21:43
gnufreexIf we are talking clustersMar 02 21:43
gnufreexAs for XFSMar 02 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah see the wikiMar 02 21:44
gnufreexRH has 3 people who wrote 80% of XFSMar 02 21:44
DaemonFCXFS is part of the kernelMar 02 21:44
gnufreexOracle has noneMar 02 21:44
DaemonFCit's automatically "maintained"Mar 02 21:44
gnufreexYeah, but customers have special needs, usuallyMar 02 21:44
gnufreexRH can more expertise.Mar 02 21:44
gnufreex*hasMar 02 21:45
DaemonFCEric Sandeen only contributes to XFS in his personal timeMar 02 21:45
DaemonFCit's not something Red Hat cares aboutMar 02 21:45
gnufreexYeah, but for customers, they will do it.Mar 02 21:45
gnufreexIf there is a problemMar 02 21:45
DaemonFCSandeen is one of the reasons Ext4 works as well as it doesMar 02 21:46
gnufreexRHEL 6 "big FS" extension comes with XFSMar 02 21:46
gnufreexThey do support itMar 02 21:46
DaemonFCmost of Ext4 is just giving Ext3 features that XFS already hadMar 02 21:46
DaemonFCXFS can handle monstrous workloads that would kill Ext3Mar 02 21:47
gnufreexYeah.Mar 02 21:47
DaemonFCand in many cases it still beats Ext4Mar 02 21:47
gnufreexYes, that is why RH supports itMar 02 21:47
gnufreexAnd that is why they hired folks from SGIMar 02 21:47
DaemonFCnoatime,delaylog,inode64,noikeep,logbufs=8,logbsize=262144,attr2Mar 02 21:48
DaemonFCB-)Mar 02 21:48
DaemonFCcan you tell I'm familiar with XFS? :)Mar 02 21:49
gnufreexyepMar 02 21:49
DaemonFCI think if it hadn't been for companies bitching about not having an easy transition from Ext3, added to GRUB 1 stupidity, XFS would be what everyone uses nowMar 02 21:49
DaemonFCsome of how Grub Legacy behaves is hazardous even to Ext3 usersMar 02 21:50
gnufreexGRUB2 rocksMar 02 21:52
gnufreexI think it is superior in every way.Mar 02 21:52
DaemonFCyeah, Fedora is talking about moving to BtrFS, which is insaneMar 02 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Who Contributes the Most to !LibreOffice? by Susan !Linton for Linux Journal via Reddit http://ping.fm/FvzoCMar 02 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A bit of bad news if it's true: Internet Explorer gains Web browser market share from !Firefox | ZDNet http://ping.fm/ELBqDMar 02 21:52
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DaemonFCbut keeping Grub 0.97, which is suicidal unless you have a /boot partition on Ext2/3/4Mar 02 21:52
DaemonFCwhich is ridiculous given that GRUB 2 has matured enough that it should already be in FedoraMar 02 21:53
DaemonFCschestowitz:  "We changed how we count, no we won't tell you how, but we're getting some data from the CIA"Mar 02 21:53
DaemonFCIE forever, lulz!Mar 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @marjoleink: "Arabs may impose #Libya no fly zone" http://is.gd/9xIyPq < good, better them than the US < yep, may be respected this wayMar 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows are parole SIGURE: Dragilor, puneți și voi o parolă nițel mai sigură în Windowsu' ăla... !Autentic, de l... http://bit.ly/fZJbCKMar 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @sjvn: RT @inafried: And, following the script, now the Apple Store is down. http://yfrog.com/h47mjtfjMar 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents http://bit.ly/fvq4vl "Microsoft could end up with more control..."Mar 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox News uses fake footage to make Wisconsin protests seem violent http://ur1.ca/3dhec GOP/Fox=against people, pro-oligarchyMar 02 21:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds Could Block Microsoft Group’s Bid For Novell Patents - Eric Savitz - The Tech Trade - Forbes .::. Size~: 96.68 KBMar 02 21:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC: it's fishyMar 02 21:55
schestowitzI'm waiting to see what other data points showMar 02 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Murdoch [...] push war in Iraq, elect George W Bush, spread resentment of muslims [...] block global action on climate" http://ur1.ca/3dhegMar 02 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RD @silner !Firefox 4 RC expected to ship roughly on March 9 | ZDNet http://ping.fm/AmL6FMar 02 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android Marketplace coming to Google TV soon, what apps would you want? http://goo.gl/IjxfcMar 02 21:57
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DaemonFC"Give me an opinion from someone that isn't a mouth breathing Fox Noise watching right wing drone and I may process it without laughing so hard that I shoot my coffee out my nose." -Me :)Mar 02 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Murdoch does get to buy BskyB in return for offloading loss making Sky news it will be a good deal for them and bad for the rest of usMar 02 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @vgrade: #qtdemos on #MeeGoR #tegra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJwXZySRMygMar 02 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Looks like someone is trying to port #GNUstep to the #N900 :) http://is.gd/sMpLolMar 02 22:00
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I found out what was going wrong with my MSN accountMar 02 22:02
DaemonFCapparently Microsoft deactivated it for not signing into my hotmail enoughMar 02 22:02
DaemonFC:/Mar 02 22:02
DaemonFCmakes me want to ditch it even moreMar 02 22:02
DaemonFCmy chief complaint about Hotmail was that they should try putting some real mail in my inbox and some junk mail in my junk box every once in a whileMar 02 22:03
DaemonFCjust to pretend they careMar 02 22:03
DaemonFCtheir junk mail filter is crapMar 02 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb That's OK, as long as it gets promoted by someone :)Mar 02 22:04
DaemonFCyou'd think they could just use Bogofilter in their backend and nobody would ever know (except that it kind of works now)Mar 02 22:04
schestowitz[22:03] <DaemonFC> their junk mail filter is crapMar 02 22:04
schestowitzit isMar 02 22:04
schestowitzAnd Yahoo's tooMar 02 22:04
schestowitzMaybe Microsoft 'infected' it :-)Mar 02 22:05
DaemonFCYahoo's is worseMar 02 22:05
schestowitzYahoo Mail doesn't like my messagesMar 02 22:05
DaemonFCalways has beenMar 02 22:05
schestowitzIt silently kills messages tooMar 02 22:05
schestowitzNot even an errorMar 02 22:05
schestowitzFriendships ruinerMar 02 22:05
schestowitz"SPAM is solved!!"Mar 02 22:05
DaemonFCHotmail has only been getting worseMar 02 22:05
DaemonFCit started when they moved it onto Windows ServerMar 02 22:06
schestowitz[we just killed lots of legitimate mail, but who cares? SPAM is over!]Mar 02 22:06
DaemonFCFreeBSD actually kept it pretty reliableMar 02 22:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: A lot of them want to set up a filter that blocks all email unless the sender has paid them to be whitelistedMar 02 22:07
DaemonFCapparently rackateering is now spam protectionMar 02 22:07
DaemonFCAOL tried this a while back and gave upMar 02 22:07
DaemonFCno way to enforce such a scam without many email providers in agreementMar 02 22:07
DaemonFCHow hard is it to filter out an email thatMar 02 22:08
DaemonFCtalks about extending your penis with black market Russian ViagraMar 02 22:08
DaemonFCfrom Mexican/Canadian pharmaciesMar 02 22:08
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 22:08
DaemonFCeven the worse spam filter in the world should catch thatMar 02 22:08
DaemonFCwhat does it send to my junk folder? My phone bill!Mar 02 22:09
DaemonFCMy car insurance cards!Mar 02 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Ho come la sensazione che le Iene facciano product placement per Apple (arrivati gli iPad). #lafacciacomeilculo?Mar 02 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's the Free Software, stupid! http://ur1.ca/3dhh2 Free Software More Than a Hobby http://ur1.ca/3dhh6Mar 02 22:09
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DaemonFCwhy would I ever want those?Mar 02 22:09
DaemonFCThanks Ballmer!Mar 02 22:09
DaemonFC:)Mar 02 22:09
DaemonFC*worstMar 02 22:09
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I can't keep up with all that you writeMar 02 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wayland snapshot available for #Ubuntu 11.04 http://ur1.ca/3dhhe #gnu #linux #graphicsMar 02 22:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wayland snapshot available for Ubuntu 11.04 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.89 KBMar 02 22:10
schestowitzYou need another shot of haemoglobinMar 02 22:10
DaemonFChow did you guess my secret?Mar 02 22:11
schestowitzHeheMar 02 22:12
DaemonFCAT&T sent me an offer for a $49 hypephone 3GS (the cheapo model), and all I have to do for it is add another $15 a month to my bill and extend my contract with them for 3 yearsMar 02 22:13
DaemonFCpass...Mar 02 22:13
DaemonFCapparently the phone I have now is not sufficiently "smart" be be charged the "smartphone" feeMar 02 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Powered by Linux http://ur1.ca/3dhhs "Linux Everywhere Do you Google (Nasdaq: GOOG)? You use Linux!"Mar 02 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Developers: Powered by Linux .::. Size~: 62.36 KBMar 02 22:14
DaemonFCstrange that it has apps, a web browser, a touch screen, a media player, and tons of appsMar 02 22:14
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DaemonFCB-)Mar 02 22:14
DaemonFCwhat is it that the hypephone does that's smart?Mar 02 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software patents, prior art, and revelations of the Peer to Patent review http://ping.fm/asy3FMar 02 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora Defaulting to open. http://ur1.ca/3dhik not free?Mar 02 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software patents, prior art, and revelations of the Peer to Patent review - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 49.62 KBMar 02 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Grand Fallacy » Defaulting to open. .::. Size~: 45.99 KBMar 02 22:15
DaemonFCyou hold it wrong and lose your signal, you try to type and it gets everything wrongMar 02 22:16
DaemonFCyou want to use VLC, but they pulled it, aww snapMar 02 22:16
DaemonFCevery time an app comes along that tempts me to break down and get an iphone, Apple finds some way to pull it or bury the developer in so much red tape they give up and leaveMar 02 22:17
DaemonFCbut the ones that make fart and poop noises stay aroundMar 02 22:17
DaemonFCby definition it can't be a smart phone if the company takes away all the features that appeal to smart peopleMar 02 22:18
DaemonFCMicrosoft has started the Vista 7 Phone off with a unilateral "no free software" rule, with Apple it was never a stated policy, but very much an unofficial oneMar 02 22:19
DaemonFCgo ahead, we'll just pull it and never say why :)Mar 02 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCALE 9X: It’s a wrap http://ur1.ca/3dhkb well attended #linux event - still going strongMar 02 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Manning hit with new charges; could face death penalty http://alturl.com/6g8d5 !wlMar 02 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The "market share" FUD seems to be making a comeback this week, so watch out, question the statistical methods, sources (funding, data, etc)Mar 02 22:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manning faces new charges; could face death penalty - U.S. news - Security - msnbc.com .::. Size~: 64.15 KBMar 02 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Manning hit with new charges; could face death penalty http://alturl.com/6g8d5 !wlMar 02 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rupert #Murdoch is offering to to sell Sky News to get hold of BSkyB control - If he sold all his papers I'd be lot happierMar 02 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] froglogic Confident of the Qt Platform's Future http://ur1.ca/3dhkv #qt #meego #micromole #elop #microsoft #nokia #entryismMar 02 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Calls to punish those behind armed newspaper raid http://alturl.com/6h7rq !wlMar 02 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows shuts door on user, #GNU #Linux welcomes the guest! http://ur1.ca/3dhl7 "Linux came to the rescue when Windows seem to have shut.."Mar 02 22:29
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows shuts door on user, Linux welcomes the guest! | Layman Linux .::. Size~: 24.09 KBMar 02 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boxee Gets $16 Million in Funding for its Media Center Platform http://ur1.ca/3dhlh free code, tooMar 02 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exciting developments in #GNU Radio http://ur1.ca/3d56x "hosting the first GNU Radio conference in September of 2011."Mar 02 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exciting developments in GNU Radio  — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 32.21 KBMar 02 22:32
DaemonFChttp://spot.livejournal.com/303000.htmlMar 02 22:35
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DaemonFChehMar 02 22:35
DaemonFC"When we find something non-free, it almost always exists in the "100% Free GNU/Linux distributions"Mar 02 22:36
DaemonFCniceMar 02 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Capital charge 'aiding the enemy' is a vindictive attack on Manning for exercising his right to silence. No evidence of any such thing. !wlMar 02 22:39
MinceRgnMar 02 22:40
sebsebsebhmm I think the dent I just sent silner is meant to show here, ah wellMar 02 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb Ah the Posterous thing. I sometimes use it as a placeholder cos it relays to so many places. I don't really put my stuff thereMar 02 22:44
sebsebsebok there it is, slow bot I guess thenMar 02 22:44
sebsebsebwait noMar 02 22:44
sebsebsebthat's his reply to meMar 02 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Seen Tropic Thunder and The Men Who Stare At Goats. What a wacky evening..... Now off to bed.Mar 02 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I agree. #ACLU of #Virginia Defends #Christian Students http://ur1.ca/3dhoq #friendlyatheistMar 02 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical: Hardened corporate or community leader? http://ur1.ca/3dhp9 Ubuntu fast becoming Linux pariah http://ur1.ca/3dhpe unjustified?Mar 02 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb these services like Posterous & Amplify practically invite U 2 clip things instead of linking. I'll have 2 watch that actuallyMar 02 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Friendly Atheist    » ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students .::. Size~: 105.43 KBMar 02 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical: Hardened corporate or community leader? | memeburn .::. Size~: 68.57 KBMar 02 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu fast becoming Linux pariah - Usability ultimately against the Open Sauce creed   | TechEye .::. Size~: 36.26 KBMar 02 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting Started With Linux: Pick The Right #GNU #Linux Flavour For You http://ur1.ca/3dhpj no "one size fits all"Mar 02 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting Started With Linux: Pick The Right Linux Flavour For You | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 49.66 KBMar 02 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @schestowitz Getting Started With Linux: Pick The Right #GNU #Linux Flavour For You http://ur1.ca/3dhpj no "one size fits all"Mar 02 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb I might look into Hellotxt instead. That seems to feed into most of the services I want to post toMar 02 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting Started With Linux: Pick The Right Linux Flavour For You | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 49.66 KBMar 02 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: I liked a YouTube video -- QmlBook http://mge.bz/4I via @timsamoff #QML #N900 #eBook #Qt #MeeGo #NokiaMar 02 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.38 (Part 4) - Storage http://ur1.ca/3dhq7 #linuxMar 02 22:50
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DaemonFC"BlagBlagBlagBlagBlagBlag: No, because they're derived from Fedora, and we never had it."Mar 02 22:51
DaemonFClolMar 02 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 12 Things You Maynot Know About #Gimp http://ur1.ca/3dhqa Updates for GIMP 2.8 and future plans http://ur1.ca/3dhqcMar 02 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12 Things You Maynot Know About Gimp GIMP Tutorial .::. Size~: 10.43 KBMar 02 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Updates for GIMP 2.8 and future plans — News — gimpusers.com .::. Size~: 23.79 KBMar 02 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 'aiding the enemy', following US claims, suggests WikiLeaks will be defined as 'the enemy'. A serious abuse. http://is.gd/0XKqRz !wlMar 02 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Law Office of David E. Coombs: Article 104 Offense .::. Size~: 71.09 KBMar 02 22:54
DaemonFCso afio is nonfree software but nobody is worried about it because nobody actually knows who the copyright holder is, even the holderMar 02 22:55
DaemonFCniceMar 02 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Ubuntu with their sometimes high handed attitude have given me the pip occasionally, but it is too much to say they are becoming pariahsMar 02 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I just want to say, cos I've never really said it before, !Inkscape is my all time favourite UI designMar 02 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FARC's 'Alfonso Cano' will never negotiate: WikiLeaks http://is.gd/zMlG3K !wlMar 02 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Syrian regime could be the next Middle Easter domino to fall http://is.gd/0aeSuy !wlMar 02 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Star - Opinion Articles - The Syrian regime could be the next Middle Eastern domino to fall .::. Size~: 62.22 KBMar 02 23:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/status/43076930135793664Mar 02 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Deprogrammer9: Microsoft and Open Source? Looks like they are trying this shit again! @schestowitzMar 02 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 2/3/2011: Linux Everywhere, GIMP 2.8 Plans http://ur1.ca/3dht7 #techrightsMar 02 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/3/2011: Linux Everywhere, GIMP 2.8 Plans http://ur1.ca/3dht7 !techrightsMar 02 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Updated Skype Toolbar Extension Available http://bit.ly/dSqW4vMar 02 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How did Google lose, and find, all those e-mails? By John D. Sutter, CNN http://ping.fm/FIcrZMar 02 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 2/3/2011: Linux Everywhere, GIMP 2.8 Plans | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.36 KBMar 02 23:12
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Updated Skype Toolbar Extension Available «  Mozilla Add-ons Blog .::. Size~: 8.35 KBMar 02 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How did Google lose, and find, all those e-mails? - CNN.com .::. Size~: 42.46 KBMar 02 23:12
DaemonFChttp://spot.livejournal.com/316985.htmlMar 02 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: spot: Fedora Says Thank You! .::. Size~: 23.75 KBMar 02 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bradley Manning Charged with “Aiding the Enemy” http://ur1.ca/3dhtn you can't make this stuff up!Mar 02 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Manning faces new charges, possible death penalty http://ur1.ca/3dhtr via @qu1j0t3 (Bush walks free?)Mar 02 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bradley Manning Charged with “Aiding the Enemy” |  Firedoglake .::. Size~: 97.01 KBMar 02 23:14
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Why did you ask me if I liked my avater this morning?Mar 02 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @tweetminster: BBC's @Peston, expects @Jeremy_Hunt to green light News Corp bid for #BSkyB tomorrow morning http://bit.ly/fEKi8fMar 02 23:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Syrian regime could be the next Middle Easter domino to fall http://is.gd/0aeSuyMar 02 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I hope you realise what an outrage that would be, @Jeremy_Hunt - you'll be the most hated man in government, you caved in, you cowardMar 02 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RD @schestowitz 12 Things You Maynot Know About #Gimp http://ur1.ca/3dhqa Updates for GIMP 2.8 and future plans http://ur1.ca/3dhqcMar 02 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily Star - Opinion Articles - The Syrian regime could be the next Middle Eastern domino to fall .::. Size~: 62.22 KBMar 02 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12 Things You Maynot Know About Gimp GIMP Tutorial .::. Size~: 10.43 KBMar 02 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Updates for GIMP 2.8 and future plans — News — gimpusers.com .::. Size~: 23.79 KBMar 02 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @techdirt: BSA Claims Open Standards Will Increase Costs http://dlvr.it/J57VrMar 02 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa 7.10.1, Mesa 7.9.2 Stable Releases: While there are already lots of exciting work within Mesa's Git master ... http://bit.ly/fBXgsEMar 02 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Kanotix Hellfire 2011-03 Linux Released: Kano, a well known member of the Phoronix community, has just released ... http://bit.ly/hKnCFhMar 02 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BSA Claims Open Standards Will Increase Costs | Techdirt .::. Size~: 28.56 KBMar 02 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Mesa 7.10.1, Mesa 7.9.2 Stable Releases .::. Size~: 16.79 KBMar 02 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Kanotix Hellfire 2011-03 Linux Released .::. Size~: 16.54 KBMar 02 23:22
gnufreexIs Motorola XOOM drmed?Mar 02 23:23
gnufreexI want to know should I recomend it.Mar 02 23:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] To be convicted of "aiding an enemy" US must prove alleged recipient @WikiLeaks, was "hostile body" !wlMar 02 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !wikileaks !news !freedom Bradley Manning afronta nuevos cargos que le podrían suponer la pena de muerte (ing) http://m.menea.me/ph2mMar 02 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @furrygirl: 23yo Bradley Manning, accused of helping WikiLeaks, has new charges and is now facing the death penalty. http://ow.ly/46Je6Mar 02 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manning faces new charges, possible death penalty - U.S. news - Security - msnbc.com .::. Size~: 87.69 KBMar 02 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How ridiculous is this idea: Alleged WikiLeaker could face death penalty http://ping.fm/Mab3AMar 02 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Birgitta Jonsdottir - Icelandic member of parliament - Interview on !Wikileaks http://ping.fm/YrC0LMar 02 23:45
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Birgitta Jonsdottir Interview on Wikileaks .::. Size~: 13.75 KBMar 02 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Why Microsoft infiltrated Nokia? This guy gets it: It's the Free Software, stupid! http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4394Mar 02 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It's the Free Software, stupid! | kdedevelopers.org .::. Size~: 37.19 KBMar 02 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Guest post for @GETideas: State of the Art: Public Access to Publicly Funded Educational Materials - http://goo.gl/z3VodMar 02 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell #Boehner: Don't waste taxpayer dollars defending #DOMA http://ur1.ca/3di7f #CREDOMobile !lgbt #marriage #equalityMar 02 23:57
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Speaker Boehner: Don't waste taxpayer dollars defending discrimination. .::. Size~: 16.86 KBMar 02 23:57

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