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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Linux group is closing in on Ubuntu for members (14 behind) | Mar 05 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] AMD Provides !Coreboot (free software BIOS) Support For Fusion! http://redd.it/fxm3v !fsf !gnu | Mar 05 00:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I do find it hilarious when people refer to a Mac as if it's not a PC, a PC is the hardware / OS, Apple just have branded hardware / OS | Mar 05 00:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe thinking of it as not a PC, lets you do the mental gymnastics involved in thinking it's somehow great value for money | Mar 05 00:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Friday's Featured Merchandise (one of our favorites): "I believe in Linux..." http://bit.ly/aKsVw3 #linux | Mar 05 00:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] am i the only one to notice that cnn.com's front page is a 24/7 fanboi advertisement for apple? | Mar 05 00:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: From house arrest with love; All Quiet on the Western Front for World Book Night http://is.gd/YQoMxM http://bit.ly/eSO9UZ | Mar 05 00:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World Book Night: A book so good they want to give it to you for free - Telegraph .::. Size~: 81.93 KB | Mar 05 00:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: #FAIL: WP7 update AGAIN runs into problems - http://tinyurl.com/5s4owxn !microsoft !wp7 !windows !mvp | Mar 05 00:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: #FAIL: WP7 update AGAIN runs into problems « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 32.75 KB | Mar 05 00:21 |
| sebpclos | Annoying netsplits, just came back to my computer, and reolised I been on with this name for quite a while | Mar 05 00:24 |
| sebpclos | just came back to it propelry I should say above, since I was just using it sort of and then away again | Mar 05 00:24 |
| sebpclos | schestowitz: Can you remove my host name from the log, before all this ends up on Google or very soon after? Thanks | Mar 05 00:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] RT for v2.6.34.8 released http://lwn.net/Articles/431365/rss | Mar 05 00:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ForgeRock Norway is hiring: http://wmk.me/ey5kAw | Mar 05 00:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz In the U.S. there is an old expression..."Busy as a one-armed paperhanger." That is my humorous mental | Mar 05 01:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz You are as busy as a one-armed paper hanger. And as I picture that mental image I think of you...but I know you can handle it. | Mar 05 01:06 | |
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| oiaohm | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703752404576178833590548792.html This is over due | Mar 05 01:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Web Video Rivalry Sparks U.S. Probe - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 183.72 KB | Mar 05 01:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Young, Arab and Angry: Libya's revolutionaries http://is.gd/1KaFFq !wl | Mar 05 01:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Young, Arab and angry - The Irish Times - Sat, Mar 05, 2011 .::. Size~: 52.37 KB | Mar 05 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | so they slap MPEG on the wrist and maybe a token fine, some nonbinding or meaningless agreements | Mar 05 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | the whole thing will be some meaningless package of concessions just so it looks like they acted | Mar 05 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | U.S. v. Microsoft | Mar 05 01:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: U.S. v. Microsoft was not as meanless as it seams. | Mar 05 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | short of breaking up the company like they did with AT&T, I think it was a sweetheart deal | Mar 05 01:13 |
| oiaohm | That case allowed the EU vs Microsoft case to fine MS in the USA | Mar 05 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T could have been what Microsoft is to the software industry now | Mar 05 01:14 |
| oiaohm | So MS could not threaten to run from the EU courts. | Mar 05 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | UNIX could still be whatever AT&T says it is | Mar 05 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T's biggest mistake with UNIX was to make the source code as freely available as it was | Mar 05 01:15 |
| oiaohm | MPEG LA, Will not want to lose. | Mar 05 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | they were begging someone to clone it even if they couldn't use AT&T's code everyone knew how it worked | Mar 05 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Because if it loses all anti-competivie regulators world wide can take bits out of them when they want. | Mar 05 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | you notice where Microsoft hasn't made that mistake? | Mar 05 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie DOJ slap over wrist has very bad legal knock on mistakes. | Mar 05 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | The "educational" Windows source code, Windows Research Kernel is only part of a kernel, based on Windows 2003 | Mar 05 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | no driver code, no file system code, etc. | Mar 05 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Neither was AT&T code complete either. | Mar 05 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Also most of the drivers on a Microsoft install disk are not made by Microsoft. | Mar 05 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but the WRK license says you can only look at it, you can't compile it or extend it or actually use it in binary form in any way | Mar 05 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | BSD started as extensions to proprietary AT&T source code | Mar 05 01:17 |
| oiaohm | So did wine leading to reactos. DaemonFC | Mar 05 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's where the USL vs 386 BSD mess came from | Mar 05 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Wined3d people like to forgot about DaemonFC | Mar 05 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has to document how to interact with DirectX or else there wouldn't be any way for other companies to make applications for it | Mar 05 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Early test if wine libs was replacing MS upper libraries. | Mar 05 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | just like most of Win32 is documented | Mar 05 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | some of it is hidden or incorrect, but it's not totally a black box | Mar 05 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Also MS has to document how to write drivers for windows in quite detail. | Mar 05 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | it lets you load Microsoft libraries and override the internal Wine version | Mar 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's not the same as having Microsoft code | Mar 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | In reactos there is some Microsoft code. | Mar 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | From the dos days. | Mar 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | no there isn't | Mar 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | that accusation was already made | Mar 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | O yes there is. | Mar 05 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | the code was audited | Mar 05 01:20 |
| oiaohm | But its legal to be there. | Mar 05 01:21 |
| oiaohm | It was licensed under BSD license in 1992. DaemonFC | Mar 05 01:21 |
| oiaohm | By Microsoft | Mar 05 01:21 |
| oiaohm | So yes there is some Microsoft code in there. I was one of the people assisting out with the reactos Audit. DaemonFC | Mar 05 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 05 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | well, if it's BSD-licensed, then there's no take-backs | Mar 05 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | use it however you like | Mar 05 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | little late for them to complain about it now | Mar 05 01:23 |
| oiaohm | One of the blocks of code that one person was complain about that was Microsoft was correct basically. | Mar 05 01:23 |
| oiaohm | But it was legal. | Mar 05 01:23 |
| oiaohm | Its a form of memory management. | Mar 05 01:23 |
| oiaohm | That even current windows 7 uses. | Mar 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | when will people stop detecting ad blockers and loading some nag page? | Mar 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | is this the new disable right-click ? | Mar 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 01:24 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: when they find another income system. | Mar 05 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | add their script that checks to see if the ads loaded to the filter list | Mar 05 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | problem solved | Mar 05 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | the biggest pain is finding the script that did it | Mar 05 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Really I had fun with a web developer. | Mar 05 01:26 |
| oiaohm | I used webproxy replacement of adds. | Mar 05 01:26 |
| oiaohm | All those detection tricks fail to work completely. | Mar 05 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | and KDE 4.6.1 is giving me bugs that 4.6 didn't | Mar 05 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Mar 05 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | *random musing* | Mar 05 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Two Wiki reply messages are posted. I am late responding because I neglected to check it in the past few days. | Mar 05 01:29 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mozilla-introduces-the-Web-Apps-project-1202258.html | Mar 05 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla introduces the "Web Apps" project - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.07 KB | Mar 05 01:29 |
| oiaohm | Really Linux Distributions better start waking up. It will not matter if they like it or not. Cross platform applications are coming. | Mar 05 01:30 |
| oiaohm | Also cross platform will not exactly make MS happy either. | Mar 05 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is sincere about wanting web apps, as long as they're THEIR web apps that require some client side software that needs Windows | Mar 05 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | so really not web apps at all | Mar 05 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC | they really want Windows apps with web-based components | Mar 05 01:31 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you are forget NACL from google. | Mar 05 01:31 |
| oiaohm | Web Apps combind with NACL combind with WebGL and WebCL | Mar 05 01:32 |
| oiaohm | Nice games platform. | Mar 05 01:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes three parties each working on a different brick of the puzzle. | Mar 05 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Red-Hat-defends-changes-to-kernel-source-distribution-1202733.html | Mar 05 01:33 |
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| DaemonFC | WebGL is not something I'm familiar with, but it's something like exposing the OpenGL API to Javascript, right? | Mar 05 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New cables from San Jose, Taipei, Beijing, Bogata, Buenos Aires http://alturl.com/xqny5 !wl | Mar 05 01:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | which is something that V8 would likely do well with | Mar 05 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know that Mozilla chose Direct2D on Windows even knowing that it would cause their WebGL support to be broken | Mar 05 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | so they're promoting Microsoft DirectX over OpenGL | Mar 05 01:35 |
| oiaohm | http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Main_Page | Mar 05 01:35 |
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| DaemonFC | (even though every Windows display driver has OpenGL support as far as I know) | Mar 05 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Opera will use OpenGL on Windows, Mac, FreeBSD, Linux, etc. | Mar 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Yes makes of opengl standard writes it. | Mar 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | WebGL is exposing opengl to web applications. | Mar 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | to be correct opengl ES | Mar 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Opengl ES is what you normally find in portable devices. | Mar 05 01:36 |
| oiaohm | WebCL exposes OpenCL that is videocard data processing to javascript | Mar 05 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Even so Gnome as made a wrapper from WebGL to direct X. | Mar 05 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Gnome/google | Mar 05 01:38 |
| oiaohm | Most common reason for needing WebGL to direct x is some cards on Windows the opengl functionality is too old. OpenGL 2.0+ is required | Mar 05 01:40 |
| Cool. Chromium seems to work with Computerworld UK's comment system. http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/03/more-fun-with-anti-open-source-fud/index.htm | Mar 05 01:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More Fun with Anti-Open Source FUD - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 68.28 KB | Mar 05 01:45 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.khronos.org/openkode/ This explain lot why MS does not allow native code on WP7. | Mar 05 01:45 |
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| that and no one will write for WP7/Zune Phone/WindowsMobile/CE death trap. | Mar 05 01:47 | |
| gnufreex | They fight standards and portability as hard as they can. oiaohm | Mar 05 01:48 |
| oiaohm | Khronos provide a way that you write once run many. | Mar 05 01:48 |
| gnufreex | And they claim they love open source | Mar 05 01:48 |
| oiaohm | As yet the Khronos solution don't support android yet either. | Mar 05 01:49 |
| oiaohm | but one day it will. | Mar 05 01:49 |
| oiaohm | (it supports i products) | Mar 05 01:49 |
| oiaohm | Basically Khronos moved on. No native apps on WP7 and Apple being a prick on what they let in. move on to web | Mar 05 01:50 |
| oiaohm | And push way in that way. | Mar 05 01:50 |
| run many? how many WP7 phones are still not bricked in the wild, 3? | Mar 05 01:50 | |
| oiaohm | Most of the last ones borough were fine. twitter | Mar 05 01:51 |
| 2? | Mar 05 01:51 | |
| oiaohm | But the question is will MS brick more with next updates. | Mar 05 01:51 |
| Zune is fine, dead. | Mar 05 01:51 | |
| oiaohm | Nasty way to boost sales. | Mar 05 01:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie did not sell enough lets brick a few. | Mar 05 01:51 |
| no one's going to carry that trash, ohm. | Mar 05 01:51 | |
| oiaohm | Really MS does brick there older OS's with updates. | Mar 05 01:52 |
| There are no older WP7 phones because there are basically no WP7 phones. | Mar 05 01:53 | |
| Sometimes I wonder if they bother with it just to sink Nokia | Mar 05 01:53 | |
| Then again, they blew billions on Zune, Xbox and web search, they might mean it. | Mar 05 01:54 | |
| but no one is dumb enough to fall for it. | Mar 05 01:54 | |
| oiaohm | Really more MS keeps on spending on areas of no profit the faster they will become weaker. | Mar 05 01:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Young, Arab and Angry: Libya's revolutionaries http://is.gd/1KaFFq http://bit.ly/hnwcg9 | Mar 05 01:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New cables from San Jose, Taipei, Beijing, Bogata, Buenos Aires http://wikileaks.ch/reldate/2011-03-0... http://bit.ly/ijTOEV | Mar 05 01:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: WTF of the day: ter um Mac a correr OSX e usar o Outlook. Entre a minha mulher e o Ministro da Justiça venha o diabo e escolha. | Mar 05 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @dpic: AMD Provides !Coreboot (free software BIOS) Support For Fusion! http://redd.it/fxm3v !fsf !gnu | Mar 05 02:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: Canada: Leaked docs show disgraced integrity commission's departure package tops $500,000 http://bit.ly/gtTzw2 @VancouverSun | Mar 05 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: Canada: Probe sought on Agent Orange use in Ontario - Yahoo! News http://yhoo.it/hWBUYg #WTF | Mar 05 02:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see the iChangi Airport app in the Android marketplace. FTW! https://market.android.com/search?q=ichangi&c=apps #fb | Mar 05 02:26 | |
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| sebsebseb | That's better this name | Mar 05 02:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It is very disappointing that a chrome plugin only supports pptx! FAIL! http://ur1.ca/3e334 #fb | Mar 05 02:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "We believe that the open source development model produces the best software on the planet ..." YES! http://ur1.ca/3e33o #fb | Mar 05 02:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTE3MQ | Mar 05 02:41 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Fedora 16 Jono Bacon | Mar 05 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.mycokecancollection.com/wp-content/uploads/diet_coke_bacon.jpg | Mar 05 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 02:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] All signed-up for the National Conference for Media Reform April 8,9,10 in Boston. http://conference.freepress.net/ #freepress | Mar 05 02:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] I shoved the knife into his gut #amwriting | Mar 05 02:46 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how long they're just going to let xorg-edgers sit there broken | Mar 05 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's frustrating | Mar 05 02:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Differences Between #PySide and #PyQt: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Differences_Between_PySide_and_PyQt /cc: !python !qt | Mar 05 02:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | OpenGL canvas support works fine in Chromium | Mar 05 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | still displays garbage instead of the page in Firefox | Mar 05 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | too busy adding more Windows features I guess | Mar 05 02:53 |
| ha ha, it's a death spiral. Windows sucks, so they have to make sure everything orbits it and therefore can not back off wasteful spending. They can not even afford the perception of weakness. The only reason people use Windows is because they think it is impossible not to. When everything just works elsewhere, they lose. This has already happened but that's beside the point. -> oiaohm: Really more MS keeps on spending on areas of n | Mar 05 02:53 | |
| how do you test canvas support? | Mar 05 02:55 | |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla is basically a branch of Microsoft, I think | Mar 05 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 4 is clearly an attempt to subvert Linux | Mar 05 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 02:55 |
| I would not know. | Mar 05 02:55 | |
| DaemonFC | twitter: about:flags and click enable, then the restart button | Mar 05 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | if you want it permanent you have to add a flag to the shortcut | Mar 05 02:55 |
| The Windows port is a wasteful and damaging use of developer time. | Mar 05 02:56 | |
| DaemonFC | there's no other good explanation for why Mozilla on Linux is a broken pile of shit | Mar 05 02:56 |
| I did not know it was broken. :) | Mar 05 02:57 | |
| Konq, Midori and now Chromium work well for me. | Mar 05 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC | it is broken by virtue of only working with proprietary Nvidia drivers if you want feature parity with Windows | Mar 05 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | what I want to know is why Chromium works so well and Mozilla is busy making excuses for why Firefox 4 on Linux is a stinking pile of garbage | Mar 05 02:58 |
| what does it not do with Intel? | Mar 05 02:58 | |
| DaemonFC | they blacklist Mesa drivers | Mar 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | if you override, then it still won't work right | Mar 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | it will say it's on, but it isn't | Mar 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's a mess | Mar 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | their answer for hardware compositing on Linux is to blacklist anyone who isn't using "nvidia" | Mar 05 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | unacceptable | Mar 05 02:59 |
| composite does not just work when you turn it on? | Mar 05 02:59 | |
| DaemonFC | you have to override the blacklist, then it fails with varying degrees of horror depending on what non-nvidia proprietary driver you happen to use | Mar 05 03:00 |
| this seems to work for all my other applications, or are you talking about some kind of in browser, directed by html composite? | Mar 05 03:00 | |
| DaemonFC | none of the open source drivers work | Mar 05 03:00 |
| eh? | Mar 05 03:00 | |
| DaemonFC | and fglrx causes screen corruption | Mar 05 03:00 |
| that's not free software, is it? | Mar 05 03:00 | |
| free software for intel seems to be rocking | Mar 05 03:01 | |
| DaemonFC | http://aero-proxy.appspot.com/bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624390 | Mar 05 03:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 624390 – With GLX, blacklist everything but NVIDIA proprietary driver .::. Size~: 45.6 KB | Mar 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | they admit what they did | Mar 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not spewing FUD | Mar 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | they only work right on Linux if you use Nvidia proprietary | Mar 05 03:01 |
| the about:flags does not seem to work for either browser for me | Mar 05 03:01 | |
| DaemonFC | everyone else gets slow software rendering | Mar 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's not much of an upgrade from Firefox 3.6 | Mar 05 03:02 |
| good think I'm still using 3.5! | Mar 05 03:02 | |
| DaemonFC | the only obvious changes in Firefox 4 on Linux are faster javascript and they scattered all the controls around the screen and put the tab bar on top of the location bar | Mar 05 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | which is another thing that only looks right on Windows (but you can change this) | Mar 05 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome 11 is the upgrade path from Firefox 3.6 on Linux | Mar 05 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | that's my opinion | Mar 05 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium 11 has everything that should have been in Firefox 4 and then some | Mar 05 03:04 |
| eeks, I'm on Chromium 6. | Mar 05 03:04 | |
| *DaemonFC is still mad at Mozilla over this bullshit | Mar 05 03:04 | |
| DaemonFC | I used to use Mozilla Suite, then Seamonkey | Mar 05 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | then they broke Chatzilla, haven't fixed it, and botched Gecko on Linux so bad that it's not worth using | Mar 05 03:05 |
| eh, they made a nice browser when I was a Windows user called Netscape. Their first few browsers on GNU/Linux were nice enough. | Mar 05 03:05 | |
| I have a VM with Sarge and Mozilla 1.0. | Mar 05 03:05 | |
| DaemonFC | when they fix up Gecko enough that Seamonkey works right again I may go back just because I like how Seamonkey works (UI) | Mar 05 03:06 |
| I also have Windows 3.1 that runs in dosbox with Netscape. | Mar 05 03:06 | |
| DaemonFC | don't know for sure though | Mar 05 03:06 |
| I have not used Mozilla regularly for about seven years. | Mar 05 03:07 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Netscape 4.08 was the last support Windows 3.1 had | Mar 05 03:08 |
| Mozilla 1.0 looked nice. | Mar 05 03:08 | |
| DaemonFC | there was an IE 5 for Windows 3.1 | Mar 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | no support for ActiveX or COM, used NPAPI plugins | Mar 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | it was almost usable | Mar 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is getting to be cross platform in the sense IE 5 was | Mar 05 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | on some platforms it does this, on some platforms it does that | Mar 05 03:10 |
| I managed to completely avoid IE. | Mar 05 03:10 | |
| DaemonFC | on some platforms it has these features | Mar 05 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | on some it doesn't | Mar 05 03:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Firefox issues on Linux are party issues with Linux. | Mar 05 03:10 |
| oiaohm | sqlite issues is quite a headache. | Mar 05 03:10 |
| IE blew every time I ever looked at it. | Mar 05 03:10 | |
| DaemonFC | IE 5 for UNIX, hehe | Mar 05 03:10 |
| *DaemonFC has used it | Mar 05 03:11 | |
| IE used DeemonFC | Mar 05 03:11 | |
| DaemonFC | they had IE 4 and 5 on Solaris and HP-UX | Mar 05 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | they ended it with 5.01 | Mar 05 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | same with Mac OS | Mar 05 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | the company they hired to do the porting had a laptop stolen and that's why the Windows source code leak happened | Mar 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | (not all of it, but a bunch) | Mar 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly Windows NT4/2000 related | Mar 05 03:12 |
| oiaohm | There was not just one source of Windows source code leaks. | Mar 05 03:12 |
| oiaohm | Infact there was 7 different leaks. DaemonFC | Mar 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | not just 6.1? | Mar 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 03:12 |
| hopefully, someone directed the flow to a nearby drain. | Mar 05 03:12 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there was a leak over Vista internals. | Mar 05 03:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: just a part segment. | Mar 05 03:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] they now cancelled "two and a half men"? | Mar 05 03:14 | |
| *DaemonFC pukes | Mar 05 03:14 | |
| DaemonFC | "Sir, 8 GB of source code was stolen!" Ballmer: "So what about the other 93% of Vista?" | Mar 05 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Also that does not count countries that MS ships them the full source | Mar 05 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 03:14 |
| free beer does that to people, they feel sore and might vomit the next day. | Mar 05 03:15 | |
| no one is allowed to do anything interesting with Windows source code, so what's the point? | Mar 05 03:15 | |
| oiaohm | Really if you are interest in NT internal design reactos is the best option. | Mar 05 03:16 |
| ohhh, Mr. Ballmer trusted me enough to look at his holy of whole, but I could not touch. Weeps in the corner with KGB agents pining for the old day. | Mar 05 03:17 | |
| no interest at all | Mar 05 03:17 | |
| gn | Mar 05 03:18 | |
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| oiaohm | NSA is allowed to build there own version. DaemonFC | Mar 05 03:20 |
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| DaemonFC | these adblock lists have become so massive, that importing a new one into Konqueror now freezes it for 5 minutes | Mar 05 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | ho hum, off to make coffee | Mar 05 03:28 |
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| DaemonFC | seems to have gotten slower in kde 4.6.1 | Mar 05 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | don't know why | Mar 05 03:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] smart remark of @yongyuan "the more you open, the slower it will be"... while she almost consumes the whole bandwidth with 10 d/ls | Mar 05 03:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] phew, this message was hard to post with @yongyuan pulling my hnads awasy | Mar 05 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] because gerard is lying, @yongyuan doesn't even consume half of it | Mar 05 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] HEY, use your own account! | Mar 05 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Shaman was tiring now. He’d been dancing and drumming for hours around the dead fire pit, his people watching. #amwriting | Mar 05 03:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @bkuhn I want to tell the world: I do not *want* a #Blade_Runner sequel or prequel. It will surely suck. Don't bother, please. | Mar 05 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @mairin @fontana @bkuhn a blade runner sequel surely would be #disturbing <= crap i think i caught something from you two | Mar 05 04:09 | |
| gnufreex | http://blog.delouw.ch/2011/03/03/suse-manager-based-on-fedora-spacewalk/ | Mar 05 04:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] some DNS records are b0rked... :-s | Mar 05 04:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality lol... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12642898 | Mar 05 04:29 | |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: oh what you doing here | Mar 05 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | it's the night | Mar 05 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | or early morning | Mar 05 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | well night and early morning | Mar 05 04:30 |
| gnufreex | Got up early. | Mar 05 04:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @vk7hse Penguin Power http://ur1.ca/3e3kl !lo | Mar 05 04:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | it would be nice if there was a way to block all javascript popups in Chrome and Ctrl+Click to override | Mar 05 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | even IE could do this since at least 10 years ago | Mar 05 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | those annoying popunders that sites load complete with flash videos annoy the shit out of me | Mar 05 04:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] shadowman's fedora blushed in shame: raising barriers to coopetition isn't OpenSourceWay; level playing field == trust in self and OSS | Mar 05 04:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Can anybody recommend a netbook-optimised !GNU distro from the !Debian family with no freedom-subtracting "features" (Flash, Acrobat, etc.)? | Mar 05 05:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] And then he went like this... [IMG] http://ur1.ca/3e3sp | Mar 05 05:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Damn i love tinkering with #irssi :) | Mar 05 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @freemjd trisquel mini, of course :D | Mar 05 05:22 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: wow someone has started an autism group on identica | Mar 05 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe I should join, I apparnatly got slight Aspergers Syndrome after all | Mar 05 05:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FR: Candidats.fr initiative to raise election candidates’ awareness of free software http://ur1.ca/3dm8y #france #egov | Mar 05 05:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat defends changes to kernel source distribution http://ur1.ca/3e0nd silence no more. #redhat | Mar 05 05:34 | |
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| nisshh | sebsebseb, whats so wow about that? | Mar 05 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: just a bit suprissed that's all | Mar 05 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: maybe I should start an OCD group | Mar 05 05:36 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, check to see if one exists already | Mar 05 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | that was a kind of joke, but a half maybe | Mar 05 05:37 |
| nisshh | hehe | Mar 05 05:38 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: see my pm by the way | Mar 05 05:38 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 05:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay I want an account in this bank! http://www.bankofmalware.com/ | Mar 05 05:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks: Cable Revives Horror of Colombia's "False Positives" Carnage http://ur1.ca/3e3wb !wikileaks | Mar 05 05:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Mar 05 05:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks Australia: Labor's destructive secrecy http://alturl.com/5vpmk !wl | Mar 05 05:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] is it a good thing to hear from your #supawife: @yongyuan: "Later we will go to Ikea. You are too active!" ? | Mar 05 05:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I'm sorry... | Mar 05 05:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US cable throws more mud at #Huawei http://ur1.ca/3e3xa !wikileaks #china | Mar 05 05:47 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: oh yeah I got something intersting I could show you | Mar 05 05:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana Dear #lazyweb, what's the business with MySQL v.6? Will we ever see it? << good question. | Mar 05 05:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If databases are a commodity and always getting better, why would anyone choose Oracle years down the line? | Mar 05 05:51 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: also whenever it was now I saw a dent from you, that basically said you weren't happy being a Ubuntu Community Member anymore? | Mar 05 05:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the price of tablets falls below $200, how many people will even consider an hypePad (v2 is just s small improvement, Android 3 better)? | Mar 05 05:52 | |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah, that was more about contributing to Ubuntu rather than being a community Member though | Mar 05 05:53 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, what did you want to show me btw? | Mar 05 05:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @swadeshine Allegedly, WE were "the enemy" aided by Manning. !wikileaks << massive PR campaign popularises disdain of Wikileaks, cablegate | Mar 05 05:54 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: well actsauly let's ask you something first | Mar 05 05:55 |
| sebsebseb | Did you know you can get free LWN subs? | Mar 05 05:55 |
| sebsebseb | you can get LWN for free, since your a Ubuntu Community Member, did you know that? | Mar 05 05:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WL #transparency is not anarchy. Secrecy is anarchy; it's when few people (private hierarchies) decide for the rest behind closed doors. | Mar 05 05:56 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: well? | Mar 05 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ordered book still hasn't arrived! | Mar 05 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you warn someone when linking to something "extremely graphic" you only *increase* the likelihood of the feeble clicking. /cc @glynmoody | Mar 05 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @phoronix Linux Gamers Command 90% Of Initial Unigine OilRush Sales: Less than twenty-four hours ago [...] http://bit.ly/g5uVsH | Mar 05 06:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj NASA Seeks High-Bandwidth Deep Space Communications (InformationWeek): http://bit.ly/dVmU19 | Mar 05 06:02 | |
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| nisshh | sebsebseb, sorry, im concentrating on writing a blog post :) | Mar 05 06:02 |
| nisshh | one sec | Mar 05 06:02 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yes, i knew that, but i havent set it up yet | Mar 05 06:03 |
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| nisshh | sebsebseb, i thought i only got a discount though, i didnt know i actually got it for free | Mar 05 06:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @swadeshine Quoth @mjaedin: We have met the enemy and it is us? !wikileaks << yes, the #1 threat to a state is its own informed population | Mar 05 06:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] wait for #CentOS, or already experiment a little with #ScientificLinux? /me needs #RHEL6 | Mar 05 06:04 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: ok well | Mar 05 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: now for what I am going to show you, an identica convo to do with this :) | Mar 05 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: also later I saw in the log for ubuntu uk, that he calls me a troll, oh well | Mar 05 06:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Chomsky recognizes that a major reason for secrecy in the government is to protect itself from its own population." http://ur1.ca/3e3zs !wl | Mar 05 06:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @knurd666 "The quickest way to build a commercial Linux business is to clone whatever #redhat does." http://bit.ly/dMRnIV | Mar 05 06:06 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: yeah oh well, he doesn't even know who I actsually am anyway and so on | Mar 05 06:07 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Mar 05 06:07 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/conversation/65187900 | Mar 05 06:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @opensourceway Open thread: Can we use collaboration to solve government's big problems? | http://bit.ly/feNk5i >> #transparency too | Mar 05 06:07 | |
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| *nisshh looks | Mar 05 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #VirtualBox 4.0 #OpenGL Acceleration Leaves Room For Improvement http://ur1.ca/3e40a used it last month, works great... | Mar 05 06:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: That's something I noticed before, quite a few people in the Ubuntu Community, like to assume things about other people at times | Mar 05 06:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @washingtonpost: #China warns foreign media not to cover protests http://wapo.st/ihfL5D // #risingchina #censorship #tyranny /cc @gbraad | Mar 05 06:11 | |
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| nisshh | sebsebseb, heh | Mar 05 06:11 |
| sebsebseb | basically if you do something they don't agree with | Mar 05 06:12 |
| sebsebseb | your seen as a troll | Mar 05 06:12 |
| sebsebseb | as I think schestowitz would agree as well | Mar 05 06:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Hm... interesting rumor http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/rumor-mill-nokia-seeks-keep-meego-developers-raises-bonuses/2011-03-02 | Mar 05 06:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I'm dropping some networks that I consider low-value, such as #Facebook, #Orkut, and #Bebo. Any reason not to dump #Plurk and #Meme? | Mar 05 06:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3 Companies Using Open Source http://ur1.ca/3e40y case studies. | Mar 05 06:12 | |
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| sebsebseb | and gnufreex for that matter | Mar 05 06:12 |
| sebsebseb | and MinceR who's set as away right now | Mar 05 06:12 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: even if you write in your own site | Mar 05 06:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: indeed | Mar 05 06:13 |
| gnufreex | Not just that, if you say something on IRC, they like to take it out of context and attack it. | Mar 05 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Scorned librarians and the eBook #piracy underground http://zd.net/eHOjLt #ebook insanity and the inevitable backlash (v @sjvn) | Mar 05 06:14 | |
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| sebsebseb | yeah quite a few of them don't care about the reasons why someone might be saying something online, be that website or IRC, to do with Ubuntu that they don't like | Mar 05 06:14 |
| sebsebseb | they will simpalley assume the person is a troll, quite a few of them | Mar 05 06:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: exactly | Mar 05 06:15 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/popey/statuses/43796435749187584 | Mar 05 06:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: Hahah! More mistruths from #techrights. Apparently now I'm an #ubuntu forums moderator. They don't know me at all :D | Mar 05 06:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nielsen: Android Pulls Ahead Of RIM And iOS For U.S. Smartphone Share http://ur1.ca/3e41c other data points concur. #linux #worlddomination | Mar 05 06:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Kyentei/statuses/43797484664918016 | Mar 05 06:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kyentei: @popey Haha, stop let it bother you so much =P Idiots.. (Or do #techrights people actually have influences?) | Mar 05 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Novell employee/Mono lobbyist: http://twitter.com/jstedfast/statuses/43813430314008576 | Mar 05 06:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: Hahah! More mistruths from #techrights. Apparently now I'm an #ubuntu forums moderator. They don't know me at all :D | Mar 05 06:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I could copy in the bit from the ubuntu uk log on Friday, where I got mentioned, since the identica convo | Mar 05 06:16 |
| schestowitz | Another Mono lobbyist: http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/43819417993363456 | Mar 05 06:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: Hahah! More mistruths from #techrights. Apparently now I'm an #ubuntu forums moderator. They don't know me at all :D | Mar 05 06:16 |
| schestowitz | See? And they poison Ubuntu against us by quoting not me from IRC | Mar 05 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | where someone is like ha ha at the guy who is saying that LWN subs for Ubuntu community members is unfair, and he calls me a troll | Mar 05 06:17 |
| schestowitz | Someone here said he was a mod | Mar 05 06:17 |
| schestowitz | In IRC, but he didn't say that | Mar 05 06:17 |
| schestowitz | He made it look like there was a factual error in the site | Mar 05 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well as I told you before I got onto two troll pages recently or one, from COLA | Mar 05 06:17 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Those two links are the same | Mar 05 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I didn't say it was COLA before though | Mar 05 06:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll reply to him. | Mar 05 06:17 |
| oiaohm | One of the guys I know did not like having it pointed out that techrights is no more bias than many other news agences. | Mar 05 06:18 |
| gnufreex | I have no idea who said about him being a mod. | Mar 05 06:18 |
| sebsebseb | and popey called me a troll above | Mar 05 06:18 |
| gnufreex | But I heard it too | Mar 05 06:18 |
| gnufreex | He can say he isn't, no need to slander. | Mar 05 06:18 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah for some of them I guess I am seen like that, because of certian past stuff | Mar 05 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | when I was depressed and yeah | Mar 05 06:19 |
| gnufreex | Also, I repeated after someone else said he's a mod. | Mar 05 06:19 |
| schestowitz | By the same criterion, popey would be a troll | Mar 05 06:19 |
| gnufreex | I think. | Mar 05 06:19 |
| schestowitz | I'm susprised he'd act like this | Mar 05 06:19 |
| schestowitz | *surprised | Mar 05 06:19 |
| gnufreex | But can't remember who said it. | Mar 05 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | maybe I should actsaully copy in from Ubuntu UK log hmm | Mar 05 06:19 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66142928 | Mar 05 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | or link to it | Mar 05 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 06:16:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @popey someone in IRC made the claim. It was not published in a post. You're trying to suggest inaccuracies, using IRC? Low blow. | Mar 05 06:20 |
| gnufreex | I think someone said it on identica ages ago | Mar 05 06:20 |
| gnufreex | And he was there | Mar 05 06:20 |
| gnufreex | In a thread | Mar 05 06:20 |
| gnufreex | He could deny it. | Mar 05 06:20 |
| gnufreex | I will investigate. | Mar 05 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | I used to think popey was someone, who was great kind of, well in the Ubuntu Community | Mar 05 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | now I am not really sure what I think when it comes to popey | Mar 05 06:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Another reason to support the work done by Harald Welte and friends http://is.gd/SwAiL4 #GSM | Mar 05 06:21 | |
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| sebsebseb | you know smoeone high up in the UBuntu community really, that was doing good stuff, and deserved loads of respect, but it seems on identica, the real popey comes out | Mar 05 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | and I noticed that about another Ubuntu Community Member as well, some of their dents seemed quite stupid to me in a way, but in a differnet kind of way | Mar 05 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah the real them can come out on identica, after all the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct does not apply there | Mar 05 06:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Malware decreases, Trojans still dominate http://ur1.ca/3e42f Hmmm... I haven't notice. Maybe I do something 'wrong'. | Mar 05 06:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Malware decreases, Trojans still dominate .::. Size~: 20.8 KB | Mar 05 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | what I will say though is that, it seems that by many other people, #techrights is seen as a group of trolls, even though this isn't really the case | Mar 05 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | even though some people who come here, say some pretty stupid things online at times | Mar 05 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More big snowstorms on the way as world's climate warms http://ur1.ca/3e42x #climate #science | Mar 05 06:24 | |
| schestowitz | No, people don't generally view it like this | Mar 05 06:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More big snowstorms on the way as world's climate warms | TG Daily .::. Size~: 40.81 KB | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | The vocal ones do | Mar 05 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | how popey reacted to that Russian guy on identica before, didn't impress me, or whever the guy was from | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Those who write about/against techrights | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Mostly Mono people | Mar 05 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | you know the one who apparnatly loved techrights | Mar 05 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | really liked it | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Notice Popey's dent | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Just RTd by Mono boosters and Novell employees | Mar 05 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | would link to techrights loads schestowitz, but would never come to this channel, that guy | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | This site is a threat to tem | Mar 05 06:24 |
| schestowitz | So they wave their hands and shout when people mention the site | Mar 05 06:25 |
| sebsebseb | rememer how popey reacted to this guy on identica before? http://identi.ca/azuthian anyway how he reacted to the guy before really didn't impress me | Mar 05 06:26 |
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| sebsebseb | also I just went there and noticed he re sent that message you sent to me the other day gnufreex | Mar 05 06:26 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: What message? | Mar 05 06:26 |
| *nisshh just requested LWN subscription | Mar 05 06:26 | |
| schestowitz | doing the LaWN | Mar 05 06:26 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: the one in that LWN convo | Mar 05 06:27 |
| gnufreex | Aha | Mar 05 06:27 |
| gnufreex | so what about it? | Mar 05 06:27 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, to be fair, you did pick a fight with popey there | Mar 05 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | anyway when I was Google'ng whenever it was now | Mar 05 06:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay "The Big Idea: Creating Shared Value" - http://ur1.ca/3e43f #fb | Mar 05 06:27 | |
| sebsebseb | I found the jono's post about it | Mar 05 06:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Big Idea: Creating Shared Value - Harvard Business Review .::. Size~: 50.39 KB | Mar 05 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: maybe to an extent | Mar 05 06:27 |
| nisshh | lol | Mar 05 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: however 1. I didn't know about the LWN subs 2. I wanted to find out more | Mar 05 06:28 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: 3. I thought Canonical would have paid them something | Mar 05 06:28 |
| nisshh | "maybe to an extent" involves replying for ages to what popey said :) | Mar 05 06:28 |
| nisshh | arguing for ages | Mar 05 06:28 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: notice how he bought schestowitz into it? | Mar 05 06:28 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, thats fair enough, but you did sound kind of accusing | Mar 05 06:28 |
| nisshh | you could have simply asked jono or popey rather than demanding to know why Ubuntu Member got such a good deal :) | Mar 05 06:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter RT @Falkvinge: @glynmoody All EU countries except a few already do this [Open Data]. Data Retention Directive | Mar 05 06:29 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I don't think popey likes me anyway, going by well over a year ago now | Mar 05 06:29 |
| gnufreex | Here is where rumor (about popey being a UF mod) started. http://identi.ca/notice/60248009 at least, that is where I saw it first. | Mar 05 06:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 11-Dec-10 19:19:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @popey Identi.ca is not the Ubuntu forums, you can't just assume you are right and move their posts, unlike Ubuntu Identi.ca is a democracy. | Mar 05 06:29 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, in summary, your intentions are good, your methods are bad :) | Mar 05 06:29 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:29 |
| gnufreex | I have elephant memory. schestowitz look up | Mar 05 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I was a bit suprised he even bothered to reply to me, to be honest | Mar 05 06:30 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 05 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: anyway he loves Ubuntu or whatever | Mar 05 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | big time | Mar 05 06:30 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, tbh, the way i see it, your only branded as a troll because of the way you go about getting answers to your questions | Mar 05 06:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Falkvinge: In a democracy the police don't always get what they want. I think that's a good principle to stick to. Why haven't the West? | Mar 05 06:31 | |
| nisshh | if you did it in a nicer, non-troll-looking way, you wouldnt have such a bad reputation | Mar 05 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: partly, but he also thinks #techrights is a load of trolls | Mar 05 06:31 |
| nisshh | well, yes, there is that as well | Mar 05 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: no I have a bit of a bad reputation still with popey probably, because of certian past IRC stuff | Mar 05 06:31 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, so he is saying jono is a troll since he hangs out in here? :) | Mar 05 06:31 |
| nisshh | i see | Mar 05 06:32 |
| oiaohm | That is what people don't get. | Mar 05 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the parties who call this place tolls are trolls themselves. | Mar 05 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | no he would say schestowitz gnufreex MinceR and I guess me sometimes, and probably even oiaohm are trolls and DeamonFC and Diablo-D3 | Mar 05 06:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Caution: #Mono lobby -- #Novell employees included -- still pick random quotes from random people in IRC to 'prove' that we 'lie'. #LowBlow | Mar 05 06:32 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I think Jono comes in here sometimes, to keep an eye on what's going on, and so he can sometimes be chatted to by regulers here as well | Mar 05 06:33 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:33 |
| oiaohm | Really most of us here debate topics. | Mar 05 06:33 |
| oiaohm | That is not a troll like nature. | Mar 05 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I must say Jono seems like an absoutly great guy, going by only online, I am not so sure about people such as popey and jcastro to be honest though, from certain expereinces I have had with them both in the past | Mar 05 06:33 |
| oiaohm | Problem with debating is we do want answers. | Mar 05 06:33 |
| nisshh | oiaohm, +1\ | Mar 05 06:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If people claim that #techrights is incorrect, demand a link and read things *in context*. We do correct errors, although they rarely exist. | Mar 05 06:34 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: well jcastro will see me as a troll sometimes as well | Mar 05 06:34 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, me and popey get along well | Mar 05 06:34 |
| nisshh | and jcastro and me havent talked much | Mar 05 06:34 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Writing one's own blog in one's own site does not and cannot constitute "trolling". The biggest trolls are those who heckle, go *elsewhere*. | Mar 05 06:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @susanamas: Duceppe to Harper: show us uncensored Afghan detainee docs by April 15 or we withdraw from committee RT http://t.co/CVTXKA1 | Mar 05 06:36 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: Ubuntu uhmm whatever, I am getting more invovled with other distro's now and it's great :) | Mar 05 06:36 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:36 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: you're not a troll | Mar 05 06:36 |
| schestowitz | You're someone they don't agree with | Mar 05 06:36 |
| schestowitz | They try to use "moral ground" to win the argument | Mar 05 06:37 |
| schestowitz | As in, "you're just an angry mal-behaving kid, so I win!" | Mar 05 06:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gomerx Personally I think Oracle is fully capable of shooting themselves in the foot without Red Hat's help. #unfakeable | Mar 05 06:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Also dropped #Friendster. | Mar 05 06:37 | |
| schestowitz | Just got "Roy, is this account genuine or is it another stalking account? http://identi.ca/openrights just marked one of "Lefty's" stalking accounts." | Mar 05 06:37 |
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| sebsebseb | well going by past expereinces with some of the Ubuntu Community Members, I know it's not really the nicest community to be invovled with for Linux distro's by a long way :) | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know it existed | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | It forged me... | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | openrights | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Full name | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz | Mar 05 06:38 |
| schestowitz | Well, at least it's idle and seemingly harmless | Mar 05 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | also the LWN thing uhmm surely proper 100% community distors that are pretty small in comparision to say Debian or Fedora, by a long way are unlikely to do these free LWN subscriptions, since they simaplley don't have the money for that? | Mar 05 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu and Fedora and Debian are big, I would much rather support the underdog distro's that are good mainly now days :) | Mar 05 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | the under dogs I belive is what people say yeah, the smaller distro's that are good :) and user friendly | Mar 05 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | and not based on Ubuntu as well, except for Mint | Mar 05 06:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @CharlieAngusMP: Heading to copyright committee. Broadcasters argue against paying copyright fees. | Mar 05 06:41 | |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, smaller distro's might not pay for free subscriptions, they might contribute news to LWN or manpower or something | Mar 05 06:41 |
| nisshh | or some other deal | Mar 05 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: LWN like most of the LInux media, probably goes on about Ubuntu mainly anyway :( | Mar 05 06:41 |
| nisshh | for all we know, canonical might not even pay | Mar 05 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | yeah exactly | Mar 05 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical may be hyped up enough | Mar 05 06:42 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | to get for free | Mar 05 06:42 |
| nisshh | heh, not what i was saying | Mar 05 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: no, but see what I mean about unfair now? | Mar 05 06:42 |
| nisshh | i meant they might have some other deal | Mar 05 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | 1. they have the money to pay for the LWN subs no problem. 2. they may be hyped up enough to get for free anyway | Mar 05 06:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Azerbaijan: As protests loom, Facebook is monitored http://ur1.ca/3e464 #facebook a poor tool for organising, serves the database masters | Mar 05 06:42 | |
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| sebsebseb | where as for most of the other distro's it's a no to 1 and 2 | Mar 05 06:42 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, i dont see it as unfair, thats like saying Microsoft is unfair since it controls the desktop market | Mar 05 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: well that is unfair in a way, but on the other hand that's kind of a good thing | Mar 05 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: image if Desktop Linux had most market share all together, loads of distor's, the amount of distro wars there would be? | Mar 05 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | imagine above, | Mar 05 06:43 |
| nisshh | well, potentially yes | Mar 05 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | it might even get so bad, that quite a lot of distro wars, my distro is better than yours, no yours sucks, no yours sucks, that it happens in person with teenagers and so on, imagine it | Mar 05 06:43 |
| nisshh | im sure it wont be that bad | Mar 05 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | I mean Desktop Linux | Mar 05 06:44 |
| oiaohm | Really lwn is more likely to talk about redhat than ubuntu | Mar 05 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | Linux as a whole | Mar 05 06:44 |
| nisshh | it could easily turn out differently | Mar 05 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | opnesource/freesoftware as a whole is very polotical I belive the word is to use here | Mar 05 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | hence why there are these distro wars at times, and so on | Mar 05 06:44 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, thats because it started out as a political thing | Mar 05 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | what? | Mar 05 06:45 |
| nisshh | so at its core, its a political thing | Mar 05 06:45 |
| oiaohm | nisshh: People like me have be using BSD and other open source before Linux existed. | Mar 05 06:45 |
| oiaohm | nisshh: So we have lived through the complete history of Linux. | Mar 05 06:45 |
| nisshh | oiaohm, i know, i meant the whole free software thing | Mar 05 06:45 |
| oiaohm | The distro wars are a repeating things. | Mar 05 06:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 Is Out [Screenshots And Video] http://ur1.ca/3dvh6 IMHO, as a longtime #Ubuntu user, this is bland, confusing to users | Mar 05 06:46 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hype up Ubuntu as usueal, why bother? | Mar 05 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | hypeing above | Mar 05 06:46 |
| oiaohm | If you want to see what Ubuntu will turn into all you have todo is go back and look at Mandrake history. nisshh | Mar 05 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus your two days late for alpha 3 news | Mar 05 06:46 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is making the same classes of mistakes. nisshh | Mar 05 06:46 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I kniw | Mar 05 06:46 |
| schestowitz | And I didn't hype it u | Mar 05 06:46 |
| schestowitz | I gave my opinion | Mar 05 06:46 |
| nisshh | oiaohm, yeah | Mar 05 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu will repel existing Linux users | Mar 05 06:46 |
| oiaohm | Open source world has bad habit of not learning from history. nisshh | Mar 05 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Unity will be OK for new users | Mar 05 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ah yes there it is at t he end your opinion | Mar 05 06:47 |
| gnufreex | <schestowitz> Well, at least it's idle and seemingly harmless | Mar 05 06:47 |
| gnufreex | It uses your name so it is not harmless. If it was only "OpenRights" then ok. But this is impersonation. Report it. | Mar 05 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I meant hypeing as in spreading Ubuntu articles/blogs | Mar 05 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 05 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is not the problem | Mar 05 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | no? | Mar 05 06:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[P]reorders started [...] 90% of those were to Linux users." http://ur1.ca/3e46s | Mar 05 06:47 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: but it does not say anything | Mar 05 06:47 |
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| nisshh | oiaohm, i realise some people were using BSD and such long before linux, but i wasnt (i was born the same year that linus released the kernel) | Mar 05 06:47 |
| schestowitz | So not putting words in my mouth | Mar 05 06:47 |
| nisshh | so my views arent as wide as some | Mar 05 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: The Gnome patching and Unity, that's Ubuntu, and those cause problems | Mar 05 06:48 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: It says it is you. So it lies. | Mar 05 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and the Gnome 2 patching and Unity are really started because of Canonical, their sponser | Mar 05 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | and made for Ubuntu | Mar 05 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I think to be honest, Unity is something that right now is worth worrying more about than Mono | Mar 05 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | to an extent at least | Mar 05 06:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ... and Xing. | Mar 05 06:49 | |
| sebsebseb | since how other distro's can't just use it and contribute code back to it without Canonical owning the rights to tall that code | Mar 05 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Banshee I used to quite like that, but now I like Clementine instead a lot, but not tried to do last.fm with that one yet | Mar 05 06:50 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: Why worry about Unity? | Mar 05 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: since what I said above, and I said to an extent, I mean be cauticious of it, also Gnome Shell is the one that is meant to be used really | Mar 05 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | since that's upstream | Mar 05 06:50 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66144433 | Mar 05 06:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 06:46:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Alpha 3 was very rough and didn't work well for me at all. Hence it being an alpha :) | Mar 05 06:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @danebod Sign #WWF Petition "Stop oil sands from blowing into Europe!" http://bit.ly/i3SuT9 #globalwarming #fracking #nature #klima | Mar 05 06:51 | |
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| gnufreex | sebsebseb: They can't jank that code back. It is LGPLv3 | Mar 05 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Final release is imminent (April), maybe delay like 6.06 will be needed | Mar 05 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: contribute code to Unity, and Canonical own all the rights to that code | Mar 05 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no they are unliekly to delay 11.04 | Mar 05 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | they are hovever going to do Beta 2 | Mar 05 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | instead of release candidate | Mar 05 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | and beta 2, will come out a bit before well when the release candidate would have | Mar 05 06:51 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: Problem is with future development, if they don't relax CA, not many people will contribute. But you can fork freely it is LGPLv3 | Mar 05 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | doing beta 2 is like what the LTS's do | Mar 05 06:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bkuhn @mjjzf, The #Diaspora guys have mostly ignored my email. AFAIK, they aren't local anymore; they hang out with VC's | Mar 05 06:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Thanks, @tekk, @fossmaniac. Will give Trisquel Mini a try. | Mar 05 06:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Oh, to clarify, that's the netinstaller boot screen not the OS. | Mar 05 06:52 | |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: anyway Mint 11 | Mar 05 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | should be pretty good | Mar 05 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome 3 by default looking like old Mint | Mar 05 06:53 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: They don't own rights unless you sign away to them. If you fork they are left with nothing. | Mar 05 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | yes, but if it's based on Ubuntu, can run Unity as well, and Gnome Shell | Mar 05 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | I wonder if Mint will be providing Gnome Shell them selves for Mint 11 | Mar 05 06:53 |
| gnufreex | CA is a concern, but if they are smart, they should be more concerned than we. They could get shunned. | Mar 05 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | as an option in the repos I mean | Mar 05 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | or if they will go with the Ubuntu ppa for it | Mar 05 06:54 |
| gnufreex | There is no reason not to use Unity | Mar 05 06:54 |
| gnufreex | There are resons why not to contribute | Mar 05 06:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nsisodiya If Android is FOSS then may someone please show a SIP VOIP video call from Android Mobile to Ekiga on GNU/Linux? #Android #FOSS | Mar 05 06:54 | |
| gnufreex | And there are reasons to fork | Mar 05 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | yeah agreed | Mar 05 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | using Unity uhmm ok if want to | Mar 05 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | contributing think about that | Mar 05 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | forking yep could be a great idea later on | Mar 05 06:54 |
| gnufreex | They pay all development. | Mar 05 06:54 |
| gnufreex | That could change if they would just modify CA to be more community friedly. | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | well if they fork | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | I guess it could become like a compiz | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | and beryl situation | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | ? | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | the issues get sorted out, and the fork becomes part of the original project? | Mar 05 06:55 |
| gnufreex | Maybe | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | also by the way I don't know why the beryl fork got made | Mar 05 06:55 |
| gnufreex | But GNOMEshell is better | Mar 05 06:55 |
| gnufreex | So no nedd | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Mar 05 06:55 |
| gnufreex | need | Mar 05 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell has no maximise and minimixe buttons | Mar 05 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | a lot of people aren't happy about that | Mar 05 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess most of those haven't even tried it like that | Mar 05 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | and then some sort of comments about crow on a menu or whatever, and how may have to add to Gnome 3.2 | Mar 05 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | what's all this crow stuff mean? | Mar 05 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/just-why-has-gnome-3-removed-window-controls-entirely/ | Mar 05 06:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gnome 3 removes ‘max’ and ‘min’ window controls – but why? .::. Size~: 264.71 KB | Mar 05 06:57 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/just-why-has-gnome-3-removed-window-controls-entirely/ | Mar 05 06:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gnome 3 removes ‘max’ and ‘min’ window controls – but why? .::. Size~: 264.71 KB | Mar 05 06:57 |
| sebsebseb | now that got a lot of comments there | Mar 05 06:57 |
| gnufreex | oh crap | Mar 05 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah | Mar 05 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | why did you say that? | Mar 05 06:58 |
| gnufreex | how i'm supposed to resize windows? | Mar 05 06:58 |
| gnufreex | and to minimize.. | Mar 05 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | by double clicking on title bar | Mar 05 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | or dragging it | Mar 05 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: also apparantly minimise isn't really needed in Gnome Shell, because of how it's made | Mar 05 06:58 |
| nisshh | gnufreex, i never almost never minimize windows on linux | Mar 05 06:59 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: maybe he needs to hide something since someone came in the room | Mar 05 06:59 |
| gnufreex | we'll see when it comes out | Mar 05 06:59 |
| gnufreex | I liked it when I tried. | Mar 05 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | I got an old GNome Shell still on computer down stairs | Mar 05 07:00 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, lol, then he needs the firefox extension that hides all his tabs :) | Mar 05 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | in Mandriva 2010.2 it is now | Mar 05 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | I think I may keep that version on that computer for quite a while | Mar 05 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | so yep the old Gnome Shell as well :) | Mar 05 07:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fabsh at this rate Ubuntu will soon be totally incompatible with Gnome. Oo ♺ @jonobacon: overlay scrollbars in Natty http://is.gd/oRr7n0 | Mar 05 07:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Ayatana overlay scrollbars: something truly Natty .::. Size~: 73.7 KB | Mar 05 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ah yes the hidden scroll bars in natty | Mar 05 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in unity, well Apple have something similar | Mar 05 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | in their next OS X beta, and apparnatly Android has something like that as well | Mar 05 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | so seems Canonical is copying idea's again | Mar 05 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/24/sources_detail_new_features_in_apples_first_beta_of_mac_os_x_10_7_lion.html | Mar 05 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AppleInsider | Sources detail new features in Apple's first beta of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion .::. Size~: 85.11 KB | Mar 05 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/24/sources_detail_new_features_in_apples_first_beta_of_mac_os_x_10_7_lion.html | Mar 05 07:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AppleInsider | Sources detail new features in Apple's first beta of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion .::. Size~: 85.11 KB | Mar 05 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: Ubuntu wants the Facebook generation people eww | Mar 05 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | the farmville people hmm | Mar 05 07:03 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 05 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll be paid for it | Mar 05 07:03 |
| schestowitz | http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/ratingsreviews-was-this-review-helpful/ | Mar 05 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ratings&reviews “Was this review helpful?” « Michael Vogt's blog .::. Size~: 22.74 KB | Mar 05 07:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fabsh Note that this comes AFTER Gnome 3 is feature-complete.... | Mar 05 07:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Experience the Future of the Web with the Web O’ Wonder http://ur1.ca/3e49e http://ur1.ca/3e49h #mozilla | Mar 05 07:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Experience the Future of the Web with the Web O’ Wonder | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 52.93 KB | Mar 05 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox 4 Web Demos: announcing Web O’ Wonder ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog .::. Size~: 31.86 KB | Mar 05 07:04 |
| sebsebseb | I used to think Ubuntu 8.10 was ready for the average consumer, with the correct help | Mar 05 07:04 |
| sebsebseb | and then Canonical got it's design team and well Ubuntu started going down hill | Mar 05 07:04 |
| sebsebseb | the horrible Gnome patching to begin with and yeah | Mar 05 07:04 |
| sebsebseb | just the shut down on top right for 9.04 and 9.10 and notify-osd little things yeah, then ah for 10.04! and so on from there | Mar 05 07:05 |
| sebsebseb | I had to remove most of the "10.04 exerpeince" to be happyish with it, and I know I have said stuff like this before here | Mar 05 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Edubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 Released http://ur1.ca/3e4a3 #Ubuntu should also have a #GNOME3 (out of the box) variant, IMHO | Mar 05 07:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Edubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 Released | Edubuntu .::. Size~: 18.78 KB | Mar 05 07:06 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, lol | Mar 05 07:06 |
| sebsebseb | anyway whatever other distro's :) oh and Linux Mint takes what I like from Ubuntu, and does nice wall papers, and added user friendly so :D | Mar 05 07:06 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: Mint is probably going to become quite a lot popular this year | Mar 05 07:06 |
| oiaohm | Really at some point the end of distrobutions will come. | Mar 05 07:06 |
| oiaohm | At this stage its looking like the distrobutions will have to be pulled kicking and screaming to the end. | Mar 05 07:06 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: end of distro's then what do we get? | Mar 05 07:07 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, yeah | Mar 05 07:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WikiLeaks: Feudal Social Relations in the Brazilian Countryside http://ur1.ca/3dqs0 !wikileaks is *great* for "poor people" (90%+ of world) | Mar 05 07:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nikolas Kozloff: WikiLeaks: Feudal Social Relations in the Brazilian Countryside .::. Size~: 198.61 KB | Mar 05 07:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On the Internet, nobody know you're poor. In the corporate news, nobody knows you even exist. | Mar 05 07:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the Age of WikiLeaks, the End of Secrecy? http://ur1.ca/3e4bw #secrecy keeps those who are exploited uninformed, thus docile. !wl | Mar 05 07:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In the Age of WikiLeaks, the End of Secrecy? | The Nation .::. Size~: 68.38 KB | Mar 05 07:11 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: The Linux world is splintered. Into independant binary per distribution. | Mar 05 07:12 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/66145023 | Mar 05 07:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 06:59:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz if the alpha keep being so rough then it might be delayed. | Mar 05 07:12 |
| oiaohm | We are seeing with Kde plasma items that are netural. Then there will be web items as well. | Mar 05 07:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- like the two accusers in Sweden -- advocated "openness", until it didn't suit them http://ur1.ca/3e4bw | Mar 05 07:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In the Age of WikiLeaks, the End of Secrecy? | The Nation .::. Size~: 68.38 KB | Mar 05 07:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] anyone know how to enable webgl in ff4b12? I can't get it to work but it was fine in 11 :/ | Mar 05 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former President George W. Bush Prejudices the Legal Process Against Julian #Assange http://ur1.ca/3e4d3 Oddly, Alan #Dershowitz helps !wl | Mar 05 07:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alan Dershowitz: Former President George W. Bush Prejudices the Legal Process Against Julian Assange .::. Size~: 317.78 KB | Mar 05 07:19 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/gRRtO.png | Mar 05 07:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "With all the user tracking and privacy gaffes I’ve confined #Facebook to it’s own dedicated browser." ~ @openattitude << a brilliant idea | Mar 05 07:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Former President George W. Bush Prejudices the Legal Process Against Julian #Assange http://ur1.ca/3e4d3 Oddly, Alan #De ... | Mar 05 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- like the two accusers in Sweden -- advocated "openness", until it didn't suit them ... | Mar 05 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @swadeshine Minecraft creator not concerned w/ #piracy, says 'No such thing as a lost sale' > http://bit.ly/fpOgPe | Mar 05 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @q4td “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair ... | Mar 05 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @bkuhn @mjjzf, The #Diaspora guys have mostly ignored my email. AFAIK, they aren't local anymore; they hang out with VC's | Mar 05 07:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alan Dershowitz: Former President George W. Bush Prejudices the Legal Process Against Julian Assange .::. Size~: 317.78 KB | Mar 05 07:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Minecraft Creator Says 'No Such Thing As A Lost Sale' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.91 KB | Mar 05 07:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Azerbaijan: As protests loom, Facebook is monitored http://ur1.ca/3e464 #facebook a poor tool for organising, serves th ... | Mar 05 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @CharlieAngusMP: Heading to copyright committee. Broadcasters argue against paying copyright fees. | Mar 05 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner [...] poses the question: What are the important areas of Linux to learn first? And gets interesting answers http://goo.gl/ywSoz | Mar 05 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz If people claim that #techrights is incorrect, demand a link and read things *in context*. We do correct errors, althoug ... | Mar 05 07:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth http://ur1.ca/3dpnr #Apple is #PR ; #Linux is #PeerProduction | Mar 05 07:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth - Google 24/7 - Fortune Tech .::. Size~: 275.26 KB | Mar 05 07:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 6.0 released http://ur1.ca/3e4et #redhat #gnu #linux #clone #science #eu | Mar 05 07:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A restart for RandR 1.4 http://ur1.ca/3e4f2 a CTRL+ALT+backspace? #linux #graphics | Mar 05 07:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A restart for RandR 1.4 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.36 KB | Mar 05 07:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] *Alleged* (not convicted) young man who is said to have copied documents to a Lady Gaga CD is mentally tortured, left naked.This is America? | Mar 05 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 11 Will Use #GNOME 3.0 By Default http://ur1.ca/3e4fq For #Ubuntu users who deny radical changes | Mar 05 07:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros Geek & Poke: Coders Are Humble http://goo.gl/Akyoc | Mar 05 07:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint 11 Will Use GNOME 3.0 By Default ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 65.57 KB | Mar 05 07:32 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Genesi-Efika-MX-Smarttop-and-Smartbook/ Let the next small netbook like devices game start. | Mar 05 07:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu-ready Cortex-A8 nettop and netbook drop prices - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.4 KB | Mar 05 07:34 |
| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/nielsen_smartphone_os_jan2011.png This is a good break down graphic. | Mar 05 07:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @danebod #Greenpeace Fund independent oil spill research now. No excuses. http://bit.ly/fTjkhR #globalwarming #ukeg #umwelt | Mar 05 07:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MeeGo on the #N900 officially targeted by #Nokia http://ur1.ca/3dp9v "will bring full MeeGo support on the N900." | Mar 05 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj Where astronauts hang out (At the space bar): http://bit.ly/fbgfPm | Mar 05 07:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz !MeeGo on the !N900 officially targeted by #Nokia http://ur1.ca/3dp9v "will bring full MeeGo support on the N900." | Mar 05 07:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Web Tracking and #Privacy Focus of #W3C Workshop http://ur1.ca/3e4gt the Web increasingly watches *YOU* ಠ_ಠ | Mar 05 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] [NHI]330's blog: Terrorist attacks against US targets in my life time and my (approximate) physical proximity to them http://bit.ly/fp0NIj | Mar 05 07:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Much ado about leaky cables is hilarious http://ur1.ca/3e4ha "politicians trust and worship foreigners more than their fellow countrymen" | Mar 05 07:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera Every politician who starts a sentence with the word "Look" should have to donate money to charity each time they do it. | Mar 05 07:44 | |
| amarsh04 | http://brendanscott.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/copyright-strikes-borders-au-angus-and-robertson/ | Mar 05 07:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright Strikes Borders AU, Angus and Robertson « Brendan Scott’s Weblog .::. Size~: 42.5 KB | Mar 05 07:45 |
| amarsh04 | thanks for the Efika links oiaohm | Mar 05 07:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Soldiers open fire on women protest in #IvoryCoast http://ur1.ca/3drh8 protest is not war, it is a protest. Only tool for change among weak. | Mar 05 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 #Westboro #Baptist Church == Pedophiles http://ur1.ca/3drhf | Mar 05 07:46 | |
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| oiaohm | amarsh04: Really there is a bigger problem. Every version of a book sold by a book store in australia 1 copy has to go to achives. | Mar 05 07:52 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: also be aware I have not found a single book store in Australia with a Print on demard machine either. | Mar 05 07:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Wow. Mac users are angry. Saying Apple stuff is overpcied is like saying "your mom's a whore" to them. http://ur1.ca/3e4jd | Mar 05 07:54 | |
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| amarsh04 | I can understand that for .au produced books... I've had "fun" looking at the State Library of South Australia and their incomplete archive of SA Public Primary Schools Music Festival archives | Mar 05 07:54 |
| amarsh04 | most .au authors would willingly donate copies of their books for state and national archives | Mar 05 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @sjvn @TheTechScribe: Red Hat Defends #Kernel Code Obfuscation http://ow.ly/48eaM <- Outlines plan to make downstream cloning harder | Mar 05 07:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Defends Kernel Code Obfuscation | ITworld .::. Size~: 87.13 KB | Mar 05 07:56 |
| *amarsh04 notices that the Linus trunk kernel source will no longer build on x86-32 without a patch that is yet to be incorporated | Mar 05 07:57 | |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Note each parrell inport from a different source equals another book that has to be stored in the achives. | Mar 05 07:59 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Yes australian book storage rules sux and rule at the same time. | Mar 05 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Main advantage of the book store is that you could go there and get a book that interest you almost straight away. | Mar 05 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases you go to the book store and you still have to wait for a order book. | Mar 05 08:00 |
| oiaohm | Basically if a person has to wait they will order online. | Mar 05 08:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu-ready Cortex-A8 nettop and netbook drop prices http://ur1.ca/3e4ki #gnu #linux #desktop | Mar 05 08:01 | |
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| oiaohm | Book stores will have to become Pods to stay in the game. | Mar 05 08:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 things I miss about old school #Linux http://ur1.ca/3e4kw "a few things have been lost along the way." | Mar 05 08:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 1 Bug Left: #Firefox 4 Pretty Much Ready For RC http://ur1.ca/3e4l1 out next week? #mozilla | Mar 05 08:02 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 1 Bug Left: Firefox 4 Pretty Much Ready For RC | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 34.13 KB | Mar 05 08:02 |
| oiaohm | There is a loophole of course in the australian rules amarsh04 | Mar 05 08:03 |
| oiaohm | If the item is printed then given to the customer no middle copy does not have to go to archives. | Mar 05 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Important [sic] of #Linux Gaming http://ur1.ca/3e4lc “Contributions from Mac and Linux users doubled our revenue for the Humble..Bundle” | Mar 05 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel up for review: 2.6.32.32-#longterm (18 patches) http://bit.ly/ezZWLk 2.6.37.3-#stable http://bit.ly/fJmOSm (73 patches) | Mar 05 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] E17- Enlighten your Desktop!! http://ur1.ca/3e4lo under-reported. | Mar 05 08:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #RedHat violating the GPL? http://ur1.ca/3dx3u "settled a patent suit with a patent troll, Acacia" #swpats #secret #gpl | Mar 05 08:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux over Windows..? Well, the argument continues http://ur1.ca/3e4m4 | Mar 05 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME3 live image - revenge of the workspaces (aka 0.0.5) http://ur1.ca/3e4ma #gnu #linux #development | Mar 05 08:09 | |
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| *amarsh04 saw no mention of the term "bikeshedding" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality until he read Debian developer lists but understood what it meant from reading the book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law | Mar 05 08:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Government open source plan hindered by lack of security clearance http://ur1.ca/3e4mn another investigative piece from Mark Ballard. #uk | Mar 05 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice applied for GSoc 2011 http://ur1.ca/3e4mt #google #odf | Mar 05 08:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Government open source plan hindered by lack of security clearance - 3/3/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 74.24 KB | Mar 05 08:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pain and Suffering in Germany, or How #Linux Lost to XP http://ur1.ca/3e4n3 but did Microsoft bribe again, as some say? http://ur1.ca/0ku76 | Mar 05 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU: AFUL supports the Document Foundation and calls on public and private actors to follow suit http://ur1.ca/3e4nk #libreoffice #odf #eu | Mar 05 08:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Cenatic nominates free and open source community for award http://ur1.ca/3dp6b #spain #freedom | Mar 05 08:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Brand guru John Adams analyzes the POSSE brand http://ur1.ca/3e4nt #linux #redhat | Mar 05 08:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Maryland Leader Quits, Is Canonical Hijacking Ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/3e4or | Mar 05 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Maryland Leader Quits, Is Canonical Hijacking Ubuntu? | Muktware .::. Size~: 23.73 KB | Mar 05 08:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The touch of Mono (or Mono Touch) is the touch of death. It's the touch of #Microsoft APIs. #novell #mono #banshee #swpats #ubuntu #suicide | Mar 05 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian wins two of seven categories at the #Linux New Media Awards 2011 http://ur1.ca/3dx5k moments of strength for Debian, universal OS | Mar 05 08:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian -- News -- Debian wins two of seven categories at the Linux New Media Awards 2011 .::. Size~: 8.16 KB | Mar 05 08:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Sabayon 5.5 experiment was a success! http://ur1.ca/3e4pe #gentoo #gnu #linux #freedom #italy | Mar 05 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE Ships March Updates http://ur1.ca/3e4pm KDE 4.6.1 Changelog http://ur1.ca/3e4pi | Mar 05 08:27 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: PC Linux OS is getting kDE 4.6.1 rather soon | Mar 05 08:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in fact it might be uploaded already | Mar 05 08:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Microsoft Patent Troll (or Patent Ogre) Nathan Myhrvold is bragging about extorting $700m in 2010, $2Bn overall http://ur1.ca/3e4tv | Mar 05 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/3/2011: #OilRush is Coming, #hypePad 2 no Match for Good #Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/3e4ue !techrights | Mar 05 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 5/3/2011: #OilRush is Coming, #hypePad 2 no Match for Good #Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/3e4ue #techrights | Mar 05 08:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Incorruptible Technologies - http://bit.ly/hHQRr8 "we have to work on cultivating the conviviality of technology" | Mar 05 09:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I had completely forgotten about #Agilo (a #Scrum plugin for Trac). | Mar 05 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] CNR http://xkcd.com/583/ | Mar 05 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jargon mark calls !fedora open core, @jonabacon calls the #community the peanut gallery http://is.gd/gacZWX < They learned the #MS FUD | Mar 05 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/01/#ubuntu-meeting.txt .::. Size~: 238.21 KB | Mar 05 09:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm I seemed to miss that when I read the log before ^ Mark calling Fedora open core | Mar 05 09:37 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: ^ | Mar 05 09:37 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: ^ | Mar 05 09:37 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is trying every trick to try to undermin Redhat | Mar 05 09:38 |
| sebsebseb | also what's the peanut gallery thing about, I don't understand that | Mar 05 09:38 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has a 100 percent working business model. | Mar 05 09:38 |
| sebsebseb | indeed they do | Mar 05 09:39 |
| oiaohm | Redhat actions over not displaying the patches | Mar 05 09:40 |
| oiaohm | I understand. | Mar 05 09:40 |
| sebsebseb | what? uh? | Mar 05 09:40 |
| sebsebseb | not following | Mar 05 09:40 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases people were copycatting and not taking part upstream. | Mar 05 09:40 |
| oiaohm | Redhat recent kernel release. sebsebseb | Mar 05 09:40 |
| oiaohm | source code was a single tar.gz | Mar 05 09:40 |
| oiaohm | Yes the source code is still there to work out what they messed with. | Mar 05 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Dutch game show contestant gives most inappropriate answer http://is.gd/zJniPi #nsfw !nl | Mar 05 09:41 | |
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| oiaohm | But its not simple for someone else to take and just refactor. | Mar 05 09:41 |
| sebsebseb | Mark is so WOW, yeah really realy WOW, oh yeah really? I don't quite think so anymore | Mar 05 09:41 |
| sebsebseb | in fact I probably never really did as such in the first place | Mar 05 09:41 |
| sebsebseb | I mean he has his blog and says loads of things and so on, and people are like WOW | Mar 05 09:41 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: anyway the distro I am interested in now one of them, is one where it seems people will be treated nearly the same | Mar 05 09:42 |
| sebsebseb | if they are founders or just users, etc | Mar 05 09:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @gotunandan The dude is clearly a n00b who feels the need to troll seasoned #linux users. The #neckbeard troll comes to mind :-) | Mar 05 09:42 | |
| sebsebseb | it probably won't have loads of people basicalley worshipping the main founder, which is something that happens for Ubuntu, and PC Linux OS even here and there | Mar 05 09:43 |
| sebsebseb | no these distro founders are not God's :) | Mar 05 09:44 |
| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Crackers-destroy-security-mailing-list-for-Linux-distributors-1202221.html | Mar 05 09:44 |
| sebsebseb | and if they are really, well wow, there must be something quite wrong with the universe/galaxey/world we live in | Mar 05 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crackers destroy security mailing list for Linux distributors - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.63 KB | Mar 05 09:44 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: meego might suite you when its ready. | Mar 05 09:45 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hmm that's big news what you just linked to | Mar 05 09:46 |
| sebsebseb | so they had a mailing list for LInux venders about security holes that hadn't been patched yet in loads of distro's | Mar 05 09:47 |
| sebsebseb | and then a cracker broke in and | Mar 05 09:47 |
| sebsebseb | destroyed the mailing list? | Mar 05 09:47 |
| sebsebseb | uh surely they would want to be on the mailing list, to find out what's going on with it | Mar 05 09:47 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: it was a secured mailing list. | Mar 05 09:47 |
| oiaohm | Intruder was detected. | Mar 05 09:48 |
| oiaohm | So intruder nuked the list. | Mar 05 09:48 |
| sebsebseb | nuked the list | Mar 05 09:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,because they coudn't read what was on it? | Mar 05 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What the Egyptian Revolution Taught Al Jazeera About Digital - http://on.mash.to/hgPmGt interesting perspective #egypt #twitter | Mar 05 09:49 | |
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| oiaohm | Same list was breached in 2005 | Mar 05 09:50 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Attempt to destroy the list would be an attempt to slow down weaknesses being fixed. | Mar 05 09:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: or to hide cases if weaknesses have been masked. | Mar 05 09:51 |
| oiaohm | But this is a prity extream thing to be doing to breach a system. | Mar 05 09:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WordPress.com #DDoS Attacks Primarily From #China, Possibly Politically Motivated - http://tcrn.ch/eFWYKI serious stuff | Mar 05 09:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @gotunandan You shouldn't unsubscribe from the #linux group because of the imbecile. I know what to do :-) I've never seen the jerk before. | Mar 05 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazing: A Long, Detailed Article On Hollywood's Struggles... That Never Mentions File Sharing - http://bit.ly/ea97f3 clueful | Mar 05 09:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge Allows Sony’s Request For Identifying Information For Anyone Who Visited Hacker’s Sites - http://tcrn.ch/gyFmHw #sony is such a bully | Mar 05 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong - http://bit.ly/eu4mBY what a mess #lse #linux | Mar 05 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Urban farming family who trademarked "Urban Homesteading" accused of #plagiarism - http://bit.ly/fkoBGT but of course #trademarks | Mar 05 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Alright, I think its time to get back #root and maybe even some !CyanogenMod goodness on the !NexusOne | Mar 05 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sony Music Hires CEO Who Has Admitted He Doesn't Know How To Run A Modern Record Label - http://bit.ly/iegiy7 #sony's deathwish grows | Mar 05 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] People were advising against using bit.ly url shortener because .ly domains = Libyan Internet laws. How about now? | Mar 05 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] You don't know what a PITA is working on a Vbscribt-made web application on <puke>MSIE</puke>. Christ! They should move to HTML5 NOW! | Mar 05 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google's #Android Spurs More App Jobs Than #iPhone - http://buswk.co/eNInLl just the start #smartphones | Mar 05 10:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @m3tti http://is.gd/RUe3JZ <- Sony gets all ips who visited geohots homepage #WTF !lo !linux !gnu | Mar 05 10:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Revolution Will Not Be Properly Licensed - http://bit.ly/eQU2io "Free & open software is at the core of counter-reaction to Big Brother" | Mar 05 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @gotunandan Thanks for that. Blocked the jerk already. Let's move on ;-) | Mar 05 10:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Revolution Will Not Be Properly Licensed | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.08 KB | Mar 05 10:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/43884999568658432 | Mar 05 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @PhoenixRising4O: RT @Abalkhair:witnessed extracting of unbelievable torturing equipment from inside the state security building #ss #alexandria #egypt #jan25 | Mar 05 10:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/43885283023929345 | Mar 05 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @BorowitzReport: The new social network that could destroy Facebook: http://bit.ly/d70wk6 | Mar 05 10:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A virus so large it gets viruses - http://bit.ly/h9aBRM fascinating stuff #biology | Mar 05 10:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Have I discovered the first !Gnome 3 defector, in this !fedora !xfce user? http://is.gd/1FvFik | Mar 05 10:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Right, so !Dropbox did not have a !Debian Squeeze compatible .deb package. Solution: compiled from source http://www.shcherbyna.com/?p=1067 | Mar 05 10:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Compiling Dropbox client under Debian Squeeze « Just another blog … .::. Size~: 57.76 KB | Mar 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | jono says "Free software" | Mar 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | "Never in my career so far I have I ever felt like we are so close to being ready to bring Free Software to the mainstream. Exciting times." | Mar 05 10:32 |
| Roderick | Local gov councillor going to NSW State elections in AU on a platform of free software and transparency || http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/story/2011/02/22/councillor-an-independent-paul-templeton-coffs/ | Mar 05 10:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Criminalizing the truth tellers | Intifada http://is.gd/P4MwJr !wl | Mar 05 10:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CRIMINALIZING THE TRUTH TELLERS – AN ANALYSIS BY DR. LAWRENCE DAVIDSON | Intifada Palestine .::. Size~: 49.37 KB | Mar 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/43868442859810817 | Mar 05 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @einfeldt: RT @jonobacon: Never in my career so far I have I ever felt like we are so close to being ready to bring Free Software to the mainstream. | Mar 05 10:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Testing Ubuntu Natty beta 3, on Virtualbox it's blazingly fast, with only 640 Mb RAM. | Mar 05 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Once you start circulating books you are creating new readers" - http://bit.ly/dEBNUW just as #sharing files creates new fans | Mar 05 10:36 | |
| schestowitz | Roderick: nice | Mar 05 10:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I am fairly impressed by Ubuntu Natty install disk. Tried over an old Meerkat test install. | Mar 05 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google Addresses !Android Fragmentation http://ping.fm/vxClb | Mar 05 10:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan I don't like Unity at all. I haven't tried Gnome 3 but it looks OK. Mind you, Unity looked OK till I tried it :) | Mar 05 10:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Samsung is changing the iPad/Android tablet conversation http://goo.gl/NZH6B !android | Mar 05 10:44 | |
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| Roderick | schestowitz: very good news. he's on the board for the local pirate party too. | Mar 05 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Chris Woollard: !Ubuntu Manual Project Job Openings http://goo.gl/Yah0n | Mar 05 10:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really have to try Zenwalk again - haven't used it since v 5.2 http://ping.fm/T4bcb | Mar 05 10:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Development Release: Zenwalk Linux 7.0 RC3 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 126.67 KB | Mar 05 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Roderick: added for next daily links summary | Mar 05 10:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] João Pinto: Impressions from Linux Mint 10 Main Edition http://goo.gl/GRRCu | Mar 05 10:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/43961334580256768 | Mar 05 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz I don't have feeble followers.... | Mar 05 10:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange condemns Australian Labor government at public meeting http://alturl.com/waizj !wl | Mar 05 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Second day of the #ProjectPirate script scram.... | Mar 05 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @SultanAlQassemi: BBC Eyewitness & rebel fighter in Zawiya: We buried 30 ppl 2day. It's 2 late 2 B afraid. We R expecting another attack. | Mar 05 11:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just bought the #Minecraft soundtrack. | Mar 05 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] FAO @mikebutcher Reason I replied via Twitter is cos I've never noticed you on Identica before? | Mar 05 11:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @SultanAlQassemi: BBC Eyewitness & rebel fighter in Zawiya: We buried 30 ppl 2day. It's 2 late 2 B afraid. We R expecting another attack. | Mar 05 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !wikileaks !news !es Abogado: Mantuvieron desnudo a Bradley Manning durante siete horas http://www.democracynow.org/es/2011/3/4/titulares#9 | Mar 05 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !wikileaks !es #manning stencil http://www.gnewbook.org/action/file/download?file_guid=89279 | Mar 05 11:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Turns out Minecraft - Volume Alpha is good working music.... :) | Mar 05 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @kletskous Twitter is changing their TOS - "All you're tweets are belong to us" - http://ur1.ca/3e56g | Mar 05 11:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gbraad: RT @kletskous Twitter is changing their TOS - "All you're tweets are belong to us" - http://ur1.ca/3e56g | Mar 05 11:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google's Android Spurs More App Jobs Than iPhone - BusinessWeek http://ping.fm/h4lDE | Mar 05 11:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ASUS Wants Android for Netbooks, 3D Displays and Quad-Core CPUs for Future Tablets - Phandroid.com http://ping.fm/OzLNH | Mar 05 11:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @gbraad: @m3tti #Sony gets all ips who visited #geohot's homepage http://is.gd/RUe3JZ !PS3 <visit it as much as possible; skewed data | Mar 05 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fontana @ruiseabra don't talk to me, I use !fedora | Mar 05 11:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Oh well I guess Twitter will mess up if they keep on doing things like this: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_puts_the_smack_down_on_another_popular_app.php | Mar 05 11:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter Puts the Smack Down on Another Popular App: Whither Twitter as a Platform? .::. Size~: 67.81 KB | Mar 05 11:56 |
| sebsebseb | and then identica will get even more popular :) | Mar 05 11:56 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe a bad thing if it continues how it is at the moment, they seem to be really bad at dealing with those fake accounts spam and yeah | Mar 05 11:56 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_puts_the_smack_down_on_another_popular_app.php | Mar 05 11:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The !Minecraft Soundtrack totally rocks: http://c418.bandcamp.com/album/minecraft-volume-alpha | Mar 05 12:04 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oiaohm_ Yeah Windows and it's security issues: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12608651 | Mar 05 12:09 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12608651 | Mar 05 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe they have a good reason | Mar 05 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Remember some apps are written by 'marketing' (spam) people to pollute the site | Mar 05 12:13 |
| schestowitz | I don't think twitter is doing evil here (without reading the article) | Mar 05 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Mind you, I'm put off by twitter sometimes cause bots send me spam there, like trying to sell my hypePad if I just name it | Mar 05 12:13 |
| schestowitz | They get clever in the way they disguise their spam and PR | Mar 05 12:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @gbraad: @m3tti #Sony gets all ips who visited #geohot's homepage http://is.gd/RUe3JZ !PS3 <visit it as much as possible; skewed data | Mar 05 12:17 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well I got a Twitter account, but no proper reason to use it :) | Mar 05 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | plus it doesn't quite have the name I would want to use loads on Twitter anyway | Mar 05 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | and identica :) | Mar 05 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | and it annoys me when people are way to addicted to Twitter | Mar 05 12:22 |
| sebsebseb | and then get quite negative really to identica | Mar 05 12:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Get your add-ons ready, Firefox 4 is almost here! http://bit.ly/egucf4 | Mar 05 12:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Oh yes please! RT @lcuk: #Shiny #Firefly #Awesome http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/23/bring.back.firefly/index.html | Mar 05 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz | [12:22] <sebsebseb> and it annoys me when people are way to addicted to Twitter | Mar 05 12:45 |
| schestowitz | The problem is this: I started in identica, after a while not many people would follow me as it's a small summunity | Mar 05 12:46 |
| cubezzz | I've never used twitter | Mar 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz | I opened a parallel account in twitter and people followed it more, then I was in a position of dependence in twitter too | Mar 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz | In Twitter I get all the abuse from Mono/Novel trolls | Mar 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz | Never in identica | Mar 05 12:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well quite a few people are following me now | Mar 05 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | and | Mar 05 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | I only do identica dents now :) | Mar 05 12:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh sure I did a few tweets on my Twitter profile, but well those were only really for me | Mar 05 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Yes, sharing one's thoughts is fun | Mar 05 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Knowing you can access more minds if you have to rant or share a thought | Mar 05 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Facebook seems to be more about giving one the illusion of having many friends and 'project' this as a status symbol too. Identica (or Twitter) to me is like a communication tool replacing E-mail at some level | Mar 05 12:49 |
| sebsebseb | apparnatly distrowatch think PC Linux OS is a Debian derverative | Mar 05 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | going by the 3rd comment on the second page of comments found here | Mar 05 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | well for this article | Mar 05 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3926941_2/Linux-Leaders-Debian-and-Ubuntu-Derivative-Distros.htm | Mar 05 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Leaders: Debian and Ubuntu Derivative Distros — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 66.2 KB | Mar 05 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3926941_2/Linux-Leaders-Debian-and-Ubuntu-Derivative-Distros.htm | Mar 05 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Leaders: Debian and Ubuntu Derivative Distros — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 66.2 KB | Mar 05 12:51 |
| sebsebseb | also I like the comment that says it's by proyvind | Mar 05 12:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I can haz more coffee. | Mar 05 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] idea: why don't Identi.ca clients have a tab complete feature for nicks you follow? kinda IRC-like | Mar 05 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The more of our media we give to Murdoch the more systematically misinformed we are" #media | Mar 05 12:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] @rysiek Hehe, i like it :) | Mar 05 12:59 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: ^ | Mar 05 12:59 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, what about my dent? | Mar 05 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: no not your dent, but yes that's why I did ^ | Mar 05 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: the thing I just said about Debian and PC Linux SO | Mar 05 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | OS | Mar 05 13:00 |
| nisshh | oh | Mar 05 13:00 |
| nisshh | lol | Mar 05 13:00 |
| sebsebseb | indeed I am like what the? | Mar 05 13:01 |
| sebsebseb | since well for a start it's a RPM distro | Mar 05 13:01 |
| nisshh | my dent was just freakish timing | Mar 05 13:01 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: your dent showed me you were active heh, you coudn't get away from me so easilly :D plus I got choqok open anyway heh | Mar 05 13:01 |
| nisshh | ah i see | Mar 05 13:02 |
| *nisshh makes a run for it | Mar 05 13:02 | |
| sebsebseb | anyway and PC Linux OS started off as a Mandriva fork | Mar 05 13:02 |
| nisshh | yeah, i know | Mar 05 13:02 |
| nisshh | says that on distrowatch i think | Mar 05 13:02 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva was called Mandrake before yep, and Mandrake was forked from that old Redhat distro that used to exist a long time ago | Mar 05 13:02 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Mandrake | Mar 05 13:02 |
| sebsebseb | anyway on that second comment page, and two other good comments as well | Mar 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | As I understand it, PCLOS comes from Mandrake | Mar 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Derived from MAndriva now, *perhaps* | Mar 05 13:03 |
| sebsebseb | one of which is from proyvind apparently | Mar 05 13:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: it was forked in 2007 from Mandriva | Mar 05 13:03 |
| nisshh | i thought PCLOS ditched most of the mandrake roots | Mar 05 13:04 |
| sebsebseb | now they say they aren't a fork, because it's got it's own base or whatever | Mar 05 13:04 |
| nisshh | ah | Mar 05 13:04 |
| nisshh | ok | Mar 05 13:04 |
| sebsebseb | back in 2007 for a while it was also appparnatly more popular than Ubuntu even | Mar 05 13:04 |
| sebsebseb | and then a developer died or whatever | Mar 05 13:04 |
| sebsebseb | yeah things were very much so Ubuntu and PC Linux OS back in 2007 | Mar 05 13:05 |
| sebsebseb | I remember there was this great PC Linux OS 2007 review I got on, and printed out for someone, but I don't think she really cared about that | Mar 05 13:05 |
| sebsebseb | someone I gave an Ubuntu CD to in fact, but she probably never used it | Mar 05 13:05 |
| sebsebseb | some older woman who was at this thing, helping out with it a bit, that I went to | Mar 05 13:05 |
| sebsebseb | then her like boss woman got one as well, but I think all this was just trying to be nice really, accepting the CD, hmm, oh well | Mar 05 13:06 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I ordered offical Ubuntu CD's I think it was twice yeah | Mar 05 13:06 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah twice at least, if I remember correctly only twice, pretty sure only twice in fact, but then it was like, how would I get them out to people? | Mar 05 13:07 |
| nisshh | yeah, i did it twice as well, before i realised how freaking simple it was to burn stuff | Mar 05 13:07 |
| sebsebseb | so in the end, well I got most of them here still in my room | Mar 05 13:07 |
| sebsebseb | I would mainly burn my own CD's | Mar 05 13:07 |
| sebsebseb | ,but you know free CD's, and were giving out like that, so of course I got some | Mar 05 13:07 |
| sebsebseb | and if it looks nice and offical someone is more likely to accept it and such I guess | Mar 05 13:07 |
| sebsebseb | actasuly I use the word offical, how about commercial instead, if it looks nice and commerical, but friendly as well, then yep | Mar 05 13:08 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 05 13:08 |
| sebsebseb | anyway the comment on the second page that says it's from proyvind is a bit to long to copy in here | Mar 05 13:09 |
| sebsebseb | however this one is good: | Mar 05 13:09 |
| sebsebseb | another comment here's the message: | Mar 05 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @20lb: Check out the new video on 20lb TV. A live performance of "White Room" :) - http://20lb.net/whiteroom | Mar 05 13:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | Alternatively, one could say that "no Linux distribution is more fragmented than Debian; no other distro has created more special purpose forks or repackagings to satisfy needs not met by the upstream distro". | Mar 05 13:09 |
| sebsebseb | indeed at that I guess ^ | Mar 05 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @faither that does ring a bell now you mention it, the odd time I tried choqok | Mar 05 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-05: Microsoft Says Please, Please Stop Using Internet Explorer 6 "Friends don’t let friends u... http://wmk.me/gqZTks | Mar 05 13:11 | |
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| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: Look at distrowatch | Mar 05 13:11 |
| oiaohm_ | There is a progressive and on going death of distributions. | Mar 05 13:11 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: where? | Mar 05 13:12 |
| sebsebseb | what? | Mar 05 13:12 |
| cubezzz | no distros really dies | Mar 05 13:12 |
| sebsebseb | or you mean in general it starts showing dead distro's as well? | Mar 05 13:12 |
| cubezzz | at long as one person keeps working on it | Mar 05 13:12 |
| oiaohm_ | http://distrowatch.com/ | Mar 05 13:13 |
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| cubezzz | ok, Yggdrasil is dead | Mar 05 13:13 |
| oiaohm_ | I have watched distrowatch for a while. | Mar 05 13:13 |
| oiaohm_ | Number of new distrobutions have decreased | Mar 05 13:13 |
| cubezzz | people still run bl3 on old old computers | Mar 05 13:13 |
| oiaohm_ | How spread interest is between distributions has also reduced. | Mar 05 13:14 |
| cubezzz | probably not even on distrowatch | Mar 05 13:14 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: uhmm most of the new distributions get based on Ubuntu now :( | Mar 05 13:14 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe Debian instead of course | Mar 05 13:14 |
| oiaohm_ | Compared to 10 years ago number of new distributions is almost nothing. sebsebseb | Mar 05 13:14 |
| sebsebseb | well Ubuntu is massive | Mar 05 13:14 |
| sebsebseb | so no wonder I guess? | Mar 05 13:14 |
| sebsebseb | in general what's the point starting a distro that hardly anyone is going to use? | Mar 05 13:15 |
| cubezzz | you can make it do exactly what you want | Mar 05 13:15 |
| oiaohm_ | There are less and less reasons why a party needs to specialise. | Mar 05 13:15 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: anyway Unity Linux you know about it yeah? | Mar 05 13:15 |
| cubezzz | and who knows , other people might like it too | Mar 05 13:15 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: what about you, do you know about Unity Linux? | Mar 05 13:16 |
| cubezzz | people write their own OSes still | Mar 05 13:16 |
| oiaohm_ | At the rate we are going unless something changes we will be left with 7 distributions. | Mar 05 13:16 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, nope | Mar 05 13:16 |
| sebsebseb | Unity Linux can be used as a distro, but is really more of a distro builder | Mar 05 13:16 |
| sebsebseb | and based on Mandriva | Mar 05 13:16 |
| sebsebseb | anyway quite a few distros based on Unity LInux now | Mar 05 13:16 |
| sebsebseb | or I should probably say, that use Unity LInux | Mar 05 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | and they are making it much easier for people to start their own distro as well that uses it | Mar 05 13:17 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm_, AROS, Haiku, BSD, Linux, Plan 9, MikeOS... I'd say we have good variety | Mar 05 13:17 |
| cubezzz | more now than ever even | Mar 05 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | so I guess we may end up in the future with more distro's that use that | Mar 05 13:17 |
| oiaohm_ | Ubuntu Mint Fedora OpenSuse Debian Android and Yocto Project | Mar 05 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but for now yep many based on Ubuntu or Debiain since all the hype | Mar 05 13:17 |
| cubezzz | I actually use Vector the most | Mar 05 13:18 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I am going to copy in the comment that says it's from proyvind I guess, unless you two guys go to the page and read it? | Mar 05 13:18 |
| oiaohm_ | cubezzz: BSD market share has been dropping. | Mar 05 13:18 |
| sebsebseb | I mean it's so good :) | Mar 05 13:18 |
| cubezzz | in the late 70's we had Commodore PET, Apple II's and TRS-80's | Mar 05 13:19 |
| cubezzz | not sure when Atari's appeared | Mar 05 13:19 |
| cubezzz | so way more variety now, at least for OS | Mar 05 13:19 |
| oiaohm_ | Really we have been over due for lot of distributions that not really suit to die off. | Mar 05 13:19 |
| cubezzz | I still use FreeDOS every day | Mar 05 13:20 |
| oiaohm_ | You would not call it a main stream solution. cubezzz | Mar 05 13:21 |
| oiaohm_ | And at some point it will end being usefull as well. | Mar 05 13:21 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm_, old school gamers use it a lot | Mar 05 13:21 |
| cubezzz | plus I write a lot of MSDOS programs | Mar 05 13:22 |
| cubezzz | er, wrote a lot :) | Mar 05 13:22 |
| oiaohm_ | Supose dosbox runs I think freedos inside it. | Mar 05 13:23 |
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| oiaohm_ | At some point it will cease being useful as a base platform cubezzz | Mar 05 13:23 |
| cubezzz | it's succinct | Mar 05 13:23 |
| cubezzz | booting up is very fast | Mar 05 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | Opera fixed the bug I reported | Mar 05 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 13:24 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm_, retrocomputing :) | Mar 05 13:24 |
| cubezzz | always an excuse | Mar 05 13:24 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: cubezzz ok read the proyvind comment? | Mar 05 13:24 |
| cubezzz | what is proyvind? | Mar 05 13:25 |
| sebsebseb | he's someone who commented apparnatly on the link I gave above | Mar 05 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | DSK-327398 (Wrong text color for menu bar buttons for some KDE widget styles) | Mar 05 13:25 |
| sebsebseb | he's also someone who I know a bit on IRC now, he works for Mandriva | Mar 05 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | and | Mar 05 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | DSK-327324 (KDE File selector can not save to a non-existing file) | Mar 05 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | they usually respond pretty fast to my bug reports | Mar 05 13:26 |
| sebsebseb | By proyvind March 5 2011 3:30 AMPDT | Mar 05 13:26 |
| sebsebseb | "Libranet, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire and Corel, all of which became defunct long ago, due to major changes in the Debian Installer and to Ubuntu's basic installer" | Mar 05 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's rare to see the next build come and go without it being in Known Issues or Fixed | Mar 05 13:26 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm_, look at all the distros geared towards old hardware... | Mar 05 13:26 |
| cubezzz | very useful | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | All of these were either defunct or as good as defunct since long time ago already before and independent of even Ubuntu coming into existence and totally regardless of the Debian installer! | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | If you put history into context and the actual influence of all distros, their size and all, I'd have to say that the Debian distros are the least influential! With it's age and such a majority you speak of, the actual level of influence delivered isn't really that great compared to how much all the other non-debian distros has delivered of influence despite their smaller size! Heck,if it weren't for Ubuntu and Shuttleworth's $$$ cleverly | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | invested (very much so in marketing), Debian would probably be the least influential distro compared to the rest! It's only been for the last 4-5 years Debian has become an actual influence at all as a result.. | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | All of these were either defunct or as good as defunct since long time ago already before and independent of even Ubuntu coming into existence and totally regardless of the Debian installer! | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | If you put history into context and the actual influence of all distros, their size and all, I'd have to say that the Debian distros are the least influential! With it's age and such a majority you speak of, the actual level of influence delivered isn't really that great compared to how much all the other non-debian distros has delivered of influence despite their smaller size! Heck,if it weren't for Ubuntu and Shuttleworth's $$$ cleverly | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | invested (very much so in marketing), Debian would probably be the least influential distro compared to the rest! It's only been for the last 4-5 years Debian has become an actual influence at all as a result.. | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | ah nuts not that again | Mar 05 13:27 |
| oiaohm_ | Umm | Mar 05 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm_: I noticed a problem with Chromium and seccomp | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | ok that went in twice by mistake the long paragraph :( | Mar 05 13:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Guttenberg bei #Wikipedia? @georgzoche hat gute Argumente. http://ur1.ca/3e69z | Mar 05 13:27 | |
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| sebsebseb | Luckily the number of derivative distributions isn't really a sensible measurement of influence.. | Mar 05 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | when I do a Google search, the results page freezes for about 3-4 seconds then unfreezes | Mar 05 13:27 |
| sebsebseb | Taking history and everything else into context, I'd say RedHat still being #1 influence! | Mar 05 13:28 |
| cubezzz | people also get a bit tired of the constant upgrading | Mar 05 13:28 |
| sebsebseb | that's it | Mar 05 13:28 |
| oiaohm_ | sebsebseb: Corel was no more before Debian changed there installer. | Mar 05 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | so it's annoying, but it makes Google Search with Instant unusable | Mar 05 13:28 |
| sebsebseb | that's a quote from the article to begin with in the comment | Mar 05 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to use Chrome Dev but it means agreeing to Google's EULA | Mar 05 13:29 |
| oiaohm_ | The artical has errors. sebsebseb | Mar 05 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | which I have read and identified several parts that I disagree with | Mar 05 13:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me attends meeting of the Peanut Gallery Open Respect Committee | Mar 05 13:29 | |
| cubezzz | the fact that linux itself is agile is what's important | Mar 05 13:29 |
| cubezzz | no single distro is all-important | Mar 05 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Fedora comes closest to satisfying my requirements | Mar 05 13:30 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I use it too | Mar 05 13:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm surrounded by Fedora boxes | Mar 05 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu isn't bad, but with what they're up to in Ubuntu Desktop, it makes me wonder what crazy shit is coming in Kubuntu eventually | Mar 05 13:30 |
| cubezzz | but I like experimenting with other distros, including obscure ones | Mar 05 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | though their indicator applet in Kubuntu is actually useful, it's a proper Plasma widget | Mar 05 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't have to mutilate KDE to get the results like they did in GNOME | Mar 05 13:31 |
| cubezzz | FreeBSD has some nice features too | Mar 05 13:31 |
| oiaohm_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libranet also did 100 percent die. sebsebseb It was rpm based. The ones behind Centos were from libranet | Mar 05 13:31 |
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| cubezzz | FreeBSD with Xfce is rather nice | Mar 05 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's fairly obvious by looking at what Canonical is doing that KDE was built to be extensible and GNOME was not | Mar 05 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | want to extend GNOME? Patch it | Mar 05 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | they're unresponsive upstream | Mar 05 13:32 |
| oiaohm_ | So that is two distributions the person has based there arguement on that are kinda flawed information. sebsebseb | Mar 05 13:32 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm_: ok you read the article now then? | Mar 05 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | so it makes me wonder why they insist on making GNOME into something it isn't when KDE wouldn't need that kind of effort | Mar 05 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @20lb: Broken link due to an internal site problem, sorry! This is better - http://20lb.net/video/white-room-live-vanilla-lounge | Mar 05 13:32 | |
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| cubezzz | mainstream isn't really a complete measure of what distro is best | Mar 05 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is static, full of bugs, and dependent on a lot of obsolete garbage | Mar 05 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | clearly not optimal | Mar 05 13:33 |
| cubezzz | most people use windows or whatever Ipad's use | Mar 05 13:33 |
| cubezzz | but I doubt anyone here would say that they are the best! | Mar 05 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I used an ipad at Walmart yesterday, they have a demo unit | Mar 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually pretty fast | Mar 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | looks good | Mar 05 13:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @x_wikileaks: Marines defend making WikiLeaks suspect sleep nude - YAHOO! http://yhoo.it/dSmfai | Mar 05 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @Friendlysmoker: RT @InfowarsIreland: Britain's Mi6 and SAS poised to help Libyan rebels - http://is.gd/BQtg3O | Mar 05 13:34 | |
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| oiaohm_ | I am wondering if samsung will hit back with a quad core. | Mar 05 13:34 |
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| cubezzz | I just don't like tablets | Mar 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | but the Apple DRM and shitty apps store policies would keep me from buying one | Mar 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | the hardware is nice | Mar 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | if I get a tablet it will run Android | Mar 05 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | I just need to justify buying a tablet | Mar 05 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 13:35 |
| cubezzz | new LFS is out, here is your chance DaemonFC :) | Mar 05 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Mar 05 13:35 |
| oiaohm_ | I am more likely to wait for the next round of phones. | Mar 05 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New #Minecraft avatar. :) | Mar 05 13:36 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'll go compile everything I use, see you in three weeks when I'm done, almost everything is already a version behind, and I have no package manager | Mar 05 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | no thanks | Mar 05 13:36 |
| oiaohm_ | DaemonFC: is a classic example of how the Linux world is changing. In the past scratch a itch create a new distribution. | Mar 05 13:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] on an #Enron & #ArtherAnderson training course, busy shredding lots of old papers | Mar 05 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Paul Calandra was lobbied by IBM Canada Ltd. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/goKwDS | Mar 05 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Peter Braid was lobbied by IBM Canada Ltd. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/eQuyml | Mar 05 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP James Rajotte was lobbied by IBM Canada Ltd. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/hJcjip | Mar 05 13:37 | |
| oiaohm_ | These days it more likely to be a customisation of some form. | Mar 05 13:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd rather go find RPMs of something than get to choose what cflags to use and spend 5 hours waiting for it to build | Mar 05 13:37 |
| cubezzz | ha, yet another KDE 3.5.10 distro appears | Mar 05 13:38 |
| cubezzz | kademar linux | Mar 05 13:38 |
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| DaemonFC | there's few things I care that much about and Fedora DOES have build tools :) | Mar 05 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | for when the occasion occurs | Mar 05 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's rare that I have to resort to building something | Mar 05 13:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ♻ @m3tti: http://is.gd/RUe3JZ <- Sony gets all ips who visited geohots homepage #WTF #lo #linux #gnu #lol Sony VS the World | Mar 05 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damnit, I knew I'd missed some crucial part of the course, these aren't evidence of anything | Mar 05 13:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | Google is having to rework a lot of their Chromium code because of GCC 4.6 and Clang | Mar 05 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | both are fairly strict | Mar 05 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | what was a warning in GCC 4.5 is probably a build failure in 4.6 | Mar 05 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | and Clang has always been more strict than GCC | Mar 05 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Wine has had to fix a lot of things that were causing warnings that now fail to build | Mar 05 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious looking over their changelogs that GCC was letting them get away with murder | Mar 05 13:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] doing some more #openbsc work on completing #ericsson RBS OM2000 protocol support. | Mar 05 13:42 | |
| cubezzz | each OEM could have it's own Linux distro | Mar 05 13:43 |
| cubezzz | it happened with Acer | Mar 05 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to call mirroring Ubuntu and changing the wallpaper as a distro, there's a lot of them | Mar 05 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fontana Contemplating writing a book "The Art of Peanut Gallery" | Mar 05 13:44 | |
| cubezzz | and EEE box from ASUS | Mar 05 13:44 |
| oiaohm_ | 4.6 gcc supports going stricter. DaemonFC | Mar 05 13:44 |
| oiaohm_ | With complier plugins. DaemonFC | Mar 05 13:44 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well Mint does a bit more than change just the branding :) it has some of it's own apps as well | Mar 05 13:45 |
| sebsebseb | and a bit more than just adding codecs by default above, as well | Mar 05 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mint has that hijacked Google Search | Mar 05 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | it even molests Opera | Mar 05 13:46 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: hijacked Google search? | Mar 05 13:46 |
| sebsebseb | well I think I set my brothers search page to the default google page anyway | Mar 05 13:46 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh you better not talk bad about Mint to ThistleWeb he won't be happy, but uh right, he doesn't seem to come to this channel anymore anyway | Mar 05 13:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fontana @jonobacon what is your distinction between "the community" and "the peanut gallery" ? | Mar 05 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @fontana: @sabdfl calls !fedora #opencore http://is.gd/gacZWX (via @jargon) | Mar 05 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] iPad 2? Don't make me laugh.... They did a keynote for this? LOL | Mar 05 13:47 | |
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| sebsebseb | still does the Techbytes audio cast though, where he will talk good about Mint at times | Mar 05 13:47 |
| sebsebseb | also yeah the open core thing again ^ | Mar 05 13:48 |
| sebsebseb | I saw that message earlier on identica | Mar 05 13:48 |
| cubezzz | Acer might even have the best Linux support out of all the OEMs | Mar 05 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Mint is basically a theme for Ubuntu with hijacked search | Mar 05 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | oh right, and 1-4 months late depending on which desktop you like | Mar 05 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 13:51 |
| cubezzz | just imagine how late you could be with LFS :-0 | Mar 05 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | they just shipped their KDE version based on Maverick a few days ago | Mar 05 13:52 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, hyperspace from Phoenix Technologies looks interesting | Mar 05 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the KDE version won't be that good | Mar 05 13:53 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the Gnome is | Mar 05 13:53 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29 | Mar 05 13:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fabsh iPad 2? Don't make me laugh.... They did a keynote for this? LOL | Mar 05 13:54 | |
| cubezzz | urmm | Mar 05 13:54 |
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| cubezzz | that link should still work | Mar 05 13:55 |
| cubezzz | bot doesn't like it though | Mar 05 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer ♺ @fontana: @sabdfl calls !fedora #opencore http://is.gd/gacZWX (via @jargon) | Mar 05 13:56 | |
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| akshatj | holy.. | Mar 05 13:58 |
| oiaohm_ | hi akshatj | Mar 05 13:58 |
| akshatj | hello | Mar 05 13:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] we don't need @markshuttlecock to talk bull s.h.i.t., the original one can handle it quite well | Mar 05 13:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Enable CRX-less web apps | Mar 05 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds dangerous | Mar 05 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] CRIMINALIZING THE TRUTH TELLERS – AN ANALYSIS BY DR. LAWRENCE DAVIDSON - http://bit.ly/g9BfDa | Mar 05 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad @jwildeboer Check the context. I believe he didn't mean it as you make it out to be.... ;) | Mar 05 14:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the latest meeting minutes of the Peanut Gallery Open Respect Committee: http://is.gd/EZVAxc !Fedora #FAmSCo | Mar 05 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad @jwildeboer I find vuntz's reply to @jonobacon in that discussion far more interesting than trying to stir up cntrv'sy about @sabdfl | Mar 05 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh like truth and correctness ever mattered ;-) | Mar 05 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh about the #OpenCore part. Fedora is the opencore part of #RHEL... so what is #CentOS? | Mar 05 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh about the peanuts? "those with an opinion on the issue, who have little or nothing to do with either project" sounds much like them | Mar 05 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh ATM I am quite occupied with the wikipedia stuff around @georgzoche, will check later. | Mar 05 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The OpenPC Project http://lxnews.org/2011/03/05/the-openpc-project/ | Mar 05 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I meant vuntz's comment on Banshee being much closer to Gnome than Ubuntu. Telling. | Mar 05 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Wikipedia-Strafanzeige-wegen-fehlendem-Quellennachweis-1202760.html | Mar 05 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Shuttleworth has done enough stuff you can validly attack him on, let's not make up more. There's already enough real material. ;) | Mar 05 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Open Core is a business model AFAIK. has the sabdfl created a new defintion? | Mar 05 14:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Ever since I upgraded to KDE 4.6.1, my kpackagekit install dialogs are ugly | Mar 05 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | any ideas? | Mar 05 14:21 |
| cubezzz | well you know I only use 3.5.10 :) | Mar 05 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | on Fedora? | Mar 05 14:22 |
| cubezzz | actually yes | Mar 05 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fontana @fabsh "open core" widely used (if unclear) term in circles close to @sabdfl (e.g. former #Canonical COO @mjasay), must assu ... | Mar 05 14:22 | |
| cubezzz | FC1 with KDE 3.4.2 at the moment | Mar 05 14:22 |
| cubezzz | so I guess i should say <=3.5.10 | Mar 05 14:23 |
| cubezzz | here, you might be intested in my KDE 3.5.10 file | Mar 05 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh I was recently "corrected" by @webmink and a few other for inappropiate use of the term open core. Why is sabdfl better? | Mar 05 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Nein, Georg hat Strafanzeige gestellt. Das ist was anderes. | Mar 05 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh That is what he meant here, but that is not true if you consider: !scientificlinux and !centos exist. | Mar 05 14:24 | |
| cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/other/kde3.5-distros.txt | Mar 05 14:24 |
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| sebsebseb | cubezzz: ok just went on that | Mar 05 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Mar 05 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | I think | Mar 05 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | distrowatch has a page some where of distro's that still are on 3.5.10 | Mar 05 14:25 |
| cubezzz | yeah well I'm a DIY kind of guy | Mar 05 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh although as @fontana says; the word usage are too badly chosen with @mjasay as former COO | Mar 05 14:26 | |
| cubezzz | I think FreeBSD might have KDE 3.5.10 too | Mar 05 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: however a topic I am interested in as well :) | Mar 05 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | I miss KDE 3 at times | Mar 05 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | and not bothered to vm something that has it yet | Mar 05 14:26 |
| cubezzz | I don't miss it :) | Mar 05 14:26 |
| cubezzz | I use it | Mar 05 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: your old you | Mar 05 14:26 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, why would I want a slower KDE? | Mar 05 14:27 |
| cubezzz | no brainer | Mar 05 14:27 |
| sebsebseb | in my case uhmm KDE 4 well it's useable, but | Mar 05 14:27 |
| sebsebseb | I get in a right mess when I try to customise | Mar 05 14:27 |
| sebsebseb | even move basic icons on the bottom panel and | Mar 05 14:27 |
| cubezzz | a lot of KDE apps haven't changed in a long time | Mar 05 14:28 |
| cubezzz | like 10 years | Mar 05 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | yeah true the apps are still pretty similar as well really | Mar 05 14:28 |
| cubezzz | kooka is still at 0.44 :) | Mar 05 14:28 |
| cubezzz | and I use it all the time | Mar 05 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | kooka ? | Mar 05 14:28 |
| cubezzz | scanner app | Mar 05 14:28 |
| cubezzz | like xsane | Mar 05 14:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Das eine (Strafanzeige) ist strafrecht - also einen Gesetzesverstoss melden. Das andere (jmd anzeigen) ist Zivilrecht. | Mar 05 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh I only know he is not working for them anymore... but fired? | Mar 05 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Grosses #Wikipedia-kino. Strafanzeige, Benutzersperrungen, #Guttenberg http://ur1.ca/3e69z cc @aprica @netzpolitik | Mar 05 14:29 | |
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| cubezzz | sebsebseb, you have convinced me.... to stick with KDE 3.5.10 :) | Mar 05 14:29 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: hmm? | Mar 05 14:29 |
| sebsebseb | anyway KDE 4 I find all geek to customise to try and | Mar 05 14:30 |
| cubezzz | <sebsebseb> I get in a right mess when I try to customise | Mar 05 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | can't even easilly move the icons on the bar at the bottom, it has this like edit mode, but | Mar 05 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | it's not just drag and put where I want | Mar 05 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | like Gnome 2 would be or something | Mar 05 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | when it comes to moving panels on icons | Mar 05 14:30 |
| sebsebseb | it's a joke really | Mar 05 14:30 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, if I'm using _very_ old, like 486, I use icewm instead | Mar 05 14:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I am pretty sure. He worked there *very shortly*, especially for a COO. Of course, we'll never know for sure... | Mar 05 14:31 | |
| cubezzz | and icewm is easy to customize | Mar 05 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | then there are these like widgets to add, but can mess that up as well even and uh | Mar 05 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | I mean that can be added above | Mar 05 14:31 |
| sebsebseb | so I need a distro such as Mandriva, PC Linux OS or Mageia, and now it seems even Kubuntu, to set it up how I want by default, and then I am ok with it really, then I can enable slide show if I want for background changing, and that's about as far as I go for customisation | Mar 05 14:32 |
| cubezzz | see, more eye candy is kind of like windows 7 | Mar 05 14:32 |
| cubezzz | makes your computer slower | Mar 05 14:32 |
| sebsebseb | anyway on the other computer I don't know why, but my little brother some how, got the time and date, moved from the right where it was by default | Mar 05 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh found it awkward too, but ok. Let's stop here before Roy takes it even more out of proportion ;-) | Mar 05 14:32 | |
| sebsebseb | to the centre | Mar 05 14:32 |
| sebsebseb | so I tried to put it back to where it was by default on the bar, but uhmm things got really stupid then | Mar 05 14:32 |
| cubezzz | uh huh | Mar 05 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: anyway some effects crash here or whatever if I am runing KDE in PC Linux OS, says something was to slow to run the effects or whatever, uh | Mar 05 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | and I don't remember KDE 3 much now, but | Mar 05 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | I remember it was pretty good really, even though I would mainly use Gnome 2 instead | Mar 05 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | and of cousre KDE apps inside Gnome 2 if I want them, or Gnome apps inside KDE if I want them | Mar 05 14:34 |
| cubezzz | I like kweatherservice and klipper | Mar 05 14:34 |
| sebsebseb | I like having a weather feature in Gnome 2 | Mar 05 14:35 |
| sebsebseb | as for KDE sure I think the widget is right there really, but I don't really know how to add tehse things proerly to KDE 4 it seems | Mar 05 14:35 |
| cubezzz | I can do weather in text only too, but of course that's not part of KDE | Mar 05 14:35 |
| sebsebseb | oh how to do it in text only? I assume you eman the terminal | Mar 05 14:35 |
| cubezzz | bash script | Mar 05 14:35 |
| sebsebseb | How? | Mar 05 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer @fontana I would prefer #MetalNeckBeard ;-) | Mar 05 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] experimenting with WebCalendar | Mar 05 14:36 | |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: anyway I have thought before about running Trinity as my host OS, but well haven't | Mar 05 14:36 |
| cubezzz | easy... | Mar 05 14:36 |
| cubezzz | links http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0511 | Mar 05 14:36 |
| sebsebseb | plus now they apprantly do more bases and that's been a while, not just Ubuntu or Fedora | Mar 05 14:37 |
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| sebsebseb | uh not just Ubuntu or Debian I mean above | Mar 05 14:37 |
| cubezzz | just edit the last part for your region | Mar 05 14:37 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, you mean Debian Lenny + Trinity or...? | Mar 05 14:37 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: no I mean it can probably run with Fedora as well | Mar 05 14:38 |
| cubezzz | ah I assume their are packages for that then? | Mar 05 14:38 |
| sebsebseb | sure I guess | Mar 05 14:38 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't been on the trinity site for a while | Mar 05 14:38 |
| sebsebseb | well I think I bene on before | Mar 05 14:38 |
| cubezzz | I see slack, ubuntu and debian only | Mar 05 14:39 |
| cubezzz | but you could compile it | Mar 05 14:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh slackware | Mar 05 14:39 |
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| sebsebseb | well I was told it can run on quite a few bases now | Mar 05 14:39 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: anyway like I was saying not long ago in another channel, first Gnome 3 version/s will probably be a sort of KDE 4.0 | Mar 05 14:40 |
| cubezzz | um, I think Fedora 8 had KDE 3.5.something | Mar 05 14:40 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell I mean | Mar 05 14:40 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well if you go to the Mephis site last time I looked not long ago, so probably now as well | Mar 05 14:42 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Mephis 8.0 with KDE 3.5.10 | Mar 05 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://breztech.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/why-would-google-chrome-remove-h-264-video-support/#comment-185 | Mar 05 14:42 |
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| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 14:42 |
| sebsebseb | and then 8.5 with KDE 4 | Mar 05 14:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Shuttleworth Admits Mistakes in Banshee Discussion, But Not Really http://lxnews.org/2011/03/05/shuttleworth-admits-mistakes-but-not-really/ | Mar 05 14:42 | |
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| cubezzz | well probably a ton of distros had 3.5.10 in the past at some point | Mar 05 14:43 |
| cubezzz | I heard that Yggdrasil was pretty awesome in it's day :) | Mar 05 14:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning's forced nudity to occur daily | Salon http://is.gd/vjLxSv !wl | Mar 05 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Sony sued the wrong guy. Please read more about it at http://geohot.com/ and http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/ !PS3 | Mar 05 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Shuttleworth Admits Mistakes in Banshee Discussion, But Not Really http://outl.ws/exqk2E | Mar 05 14:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @lxnews I personally believe 'this' is not a way to create a revenue stream. #Canonical, #Redhat and #Ubuntu, #Fedora are not comparable... | Mar 05 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Oh, I believe you can't prevent that anyway. @schestowitz is like a tidal wave of trollness with these things.... ;) | Mar 05 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @lxnews ... Canonical does not provide a similar approach with a paid support for #Ubuntu as Enterprise offering. | Mar 05 14:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Google Chrome actually has built-in click to Flash | Mar 05 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @lxnews if they really need revenue, they should do what Novell did... paint the original #red product #purple instead of #green. | Mar 05 14:47 | |
| DaemonFC | they make it exceedingly difficult to enable it though | Mar 05 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | 1. It gets rid of Flash ads that Adblock Plus misses 2. It blocks those 1 pixel flash applets that are just there to load and set a Flash LSO "supercookie" | Mar 05 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | nice hidden feature | Mar 05 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | (the extension that does this does not work right) | Mar 05 14:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I believe what Canonical is trying to do as a business model is much closer to Apple than to RH. RH really doesn't "do" desktop... | Mar 05 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @lxnews meaning; create products around #Ubuntu and treat their distro more as what #Fedora actually is... the Open 'part' of their offering | Mar 05 14:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Open Core = Foot in Door, they want more, send Jono to whore..... | Mar 05 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 14:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @lxnews I generally do not think having a Music Store provides the best means of revenue generation. sounds too much like #1984 to me | Mar 05 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh they do, but probably this is a niche market for #linux that takes a lot of time and effort before you see a #ROI. | Mar 05 14:51 | |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-in-the-door_technique | Mar 05 14:51 |
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| DaemonFC | that explains what Ubuntu is | Mar 05 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually a new take on an old marketing tactic used to sell vacuum cleaners and Encyclopedia Britannica | Mar 05 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu gets all these things installed on your system that only work if you enter your credit card information | Mar 05 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh Jim Zemlin kept saying; 'this is the year of the Linux desktop' until he also realized it is more in embedded devices and mobility | Mar 05 14:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not opposed to web services, I use a few, but Ubuntu has aggressive marketing and substandard services | Mar 05 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | so I won't be doing business with them until that changes | Mar 05 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Dear universe ! What Python GUI toolkit should i use ? suggestions please !! | Mar 05 14:54 | |
| DaemonFC | if you want to buy MP3s online there's actually price comparisons that scour a dozen or so stores and tell you which one is the cheapest | Mar 05 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's like gasoline, it's all the same, if one station has it 10 cents a gallon cheaper, you pull in there | Mar 05 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see an Ubuntu One Music Store that wasn't married to 7digital, price shopped for you, and had affiliate agreements with all the stores | Mar 05 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | that's something I could use | Mar 05 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | then they have Amazon as their cloud storage monopoly when Dropbox is faster and cheaper | Mar 05 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | and integrates better with Nautilus | Mar 05 14:56 |
| amarsh04 | or even a store that didn't use your information for anything but transactions between you and that store | Mar 05 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/03/a-virus-so-large-it-gets-viruses.ars | Mar 05 14:59 |
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| DaemonFC | things that make your skin crawl | Mar 05 14:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @noyesk: RT @slashdot: Debian Is the Most Important Linux http://bit.ly/fkLNz7 | Mar 05 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @KaKaRoToKS BTW, Hackers, Crackers, Cheaters. 3 words that mean completely different things, but people use them interchangeably... !PS3 | Mar 05 15:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | no it is not | Mar 05 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 15:01 |
| amarsh04 | maybe it's the most important GNU-based distro | Mar 05 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | no, it's not | Mar 05 15:02 |
| amarsh04 | so which free software distribution is the most important? | Mar 05 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | not even close | Mar 05 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | actually, most of the work on the Linux kernel itself comes from Red Hat | Mar 05 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't agree with the Linux renaming campaign | Mar 05 15:03 |
| amarsh04 | Linux is the kernel | Mar 05 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to call it GNU Linux, then why not X.org KDE GNU Linux? | Mar 05 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | that's jsut as valid | Mar 05 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | GNU isn't more important than KDE or GNOME or X.org or Linux | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | so what can you rightly call it? | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | Linux doesn't need GNU, GNU doesn't need Linux | Mar 05 15:05 |
| amarsh04 | compiler and libc... most people don't run Linux with init=/bin/sh | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | KDE doesn't need either of them | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | and X.org runs on Windows | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | once you go down the GNU Linux marketing road, it never ends | Mar 05 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | you have to name your OS after every piece os software you use | Mar 05 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | *of | Mar 05 15:06 |
| amarsh04 | I do notice what ldd reports for most of the software that I run (-: | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | what about GNU X.org KDE Mozilla OpenOffice.org Linux? | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | did we forget anyone? | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | damn, I use Chromium | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | I'll wedge it in there somewhere then go back to evangelizing | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | yes, because uname is part of GNU coreutils and was modified to spam the GNU Linux nonsense | Mar 05 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | quite some time ago | Mar 05 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | it used to report Linux | Mar 05 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | if someone was motivated enough I'm sure you could port FreeBSD's userland and Clang and make a workable Linux system around that | Mar 05 15:09 |
| amarsh04 | my dmesg doesn't say GNU: Linux version 2.6.38-rc7+ (root@am64) (gcc version 4.6.0 20110126 (experimental) [trunk revision 169270] (Debian 4.6-20110125-1) ) #47 SMP Sat Mar 5 16:35:46 CST 2011 | Mar 05 15:09 |
| amarsh04 | yes, one could | Mar 05 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | everyone has their opinions on this | Mar 05 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | everyone knows what you mean when you say Linux | Mar 05 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like clearing my afternoon so I can recite the OS name | Mar 05 15:10 |
| amarsh04 | I'd still rather say "copyrights, patents and trademarks" rather than "intellectual property" | Mar 05 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | even if you follow the FSF's ridiculous logic, GNU Linux only names about 20% of the distribution | Mar 05 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | so everyone else gets left out | Mar 05 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I believe it's Beer o'Clock. | Mar 05 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] since when does #BigG have these '[user] shared this on Twitter' on their search result pages? http://is.gd/PfXPtR | Mar 05 15:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fabsh He may be right though. My criticism of Canonical here was how, not what. | Mar 05 15:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Saudis mobilise thousands of troops to quell growing revolt - http://ind.pn/go1FJs wow, this isn't over yet, is it? (v @VenessaMiemis) | Mar 05 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Ubuntu #Unity is interesting and has potential, but I foresee a great pushback without thorough visual guide to newbies | Mar 05 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Nope, me neither. Even Apple is generating comparably little money with that. The money is in apps and I think Shuttleworth knows. | Mar 05 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fabsh Did you read his justification? I think it has merit. | Mar 05 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh this would make the embrace of #Qt understandable, but no work on a unified framework a la OpenStep or push of their android idea | Mar 05 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh if apps are important to them, they would need to work on getting content providers... but the question remains, on what? ... | Mar 05 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh a 'community' is not a 'platform'. | Mar 05 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Hey, I'm not defending Canonical's business model. I was just defending Shuttleworth in that instance. | Mar 05 15:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fabsh I think you (and others) are confusing business models and community models. | Mar 05 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh /me knows, just I do not see their efforts really in that regard. #Unify meant something different to them... | Mar 05 15:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66181222 http://identi.ca/conversation/65396445#notice-66181222 | Mar 05 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Fabian Scherschel (fabsh)'s status on Saturday, 05-Mar-11 14:41:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @gbraad Oh, I believe you can't prevent that anyway. @schestowitz is like a tidal wave of trollness with these things.... ;) | Mar 05 15:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fabsh And I'm saying that Canonical did something many people would have agreed was acceptable had they talked to the community. | Mar 05 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Motorola Working on Secure Android Platform for Enterprise http://lxnews.org/2011/03/05/motorola-working-on-secure-android/ | Mar 05 15:46 | |
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| schestowitz | That's not true, I don't troll. Words loosely used... | Mar 05 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Die Masse ist dumm. Armes Deutschland. ♺ @ravenonline: ProGutti Demos? WTF! Wie sind die denn drauf?! Äh, Hallo?! Aufwachen! #fail #fb | Mar 05 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Minecraft Creator Notch Says "Lost Sales" Are a Lie, Piracy Will Win http://lxnews.org/2011/03/05/minecraft-creator-notch-on-piracy/ | Mar 05 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Minecraft Creator Notch Says "Lost Sales" Are a Lie, Piracy Will Win http://outl.ws/h2SmUQ | Mar 05 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] videos for Developer - http://www.youtube.com/user/thenewboston http://www.thenewboston.com Great site | Mar 05 16:07 | |
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| nisshh | schestowitz, im actually being called a troll simply for sitting in this channel... | Mar 05 16:09 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, ^^^ | Mar 05 16:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yes! We have crafted some chilli! Success, Lewis! :D | Mar 05 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @rysiek ok, solved (kinda). export MALLOC_CHECK_=0 *before* running the authdaemon helps. nasty kludge, but works. !debian | Mar 05 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek # Poke explains the difference between recruiting ordinary people and geeks: http://goo.gl/rqETm | Mar 05 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @iThruProxy Internet Privacy and Security News is out! http://bit.ly/dWNvmg | Mar 05 16:27 | |
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| schestowitz | nisshh: LOL | Mar 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz | They try to deprive their critics | Mar 05 16:32 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 05 16:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke explains the difference between recruiting ordinary people and geeks: http://goo.gl/rqETm | Mar 05 16:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz I do not understand why Abraham/Bella Geyer & Anchel & Hellena Baer appear at the top of genealogy.chart. See Wiki for more. | Mar 05 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz For indenti.ca let's set up a couple of abberviations. I propose CW, which means "see Wiki." | Mar 05 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | nisshh: I can guess who's saying those things, I saw that before | Mar 05 16:58 |
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| good morning | Mar 05 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz Fora while the web log was showing high traffic even if the articles were of low quality. Lately, the opposite is true. | Mar 05 17:01 | |
| It looks like Fox News will soon blanket the UK as it does the US, http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_rupert_murdoch_3/ | Mar 05 17:01 | |
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| Ha. Looks like the lesson learned from Bernie Maddof is to cut Wall Street regulators budget. http://www.citizen.org/do-not-cut-consumer-protections | Mar 05 17:02 | |
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| schestowitz | twitter: BTW, I got the CV you sent me | Mar 05 17:04 |
| cool | Mar 05 17:04 | |
| schestowitz | I've not yet launched anything, I need to work on the sitye | Mar 05 17:04 |
| schestowitz | *site | Mar 05 17:04 |
| schestowitz | And contact some friends through whom I can get contracts | Mar 05 17:04 |
| schestowitz | I'll soon resume site stuff in TR too | Mar 05 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I've been busy with some other projects, as well as organising many notes | Mar 05 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Next week will be even quieter | Mar 05 17:05 |
| I've got plenty to do myself over the next six months. | Mar 05 17:06 | |
| All of it good. | Mar 05 17:06 | |
| Did you ever find out anything about ISPs? | Mar 05 17:07 | |
| I tried to run my own email service but it did not work. It turns out that my ISP has just been pegged as one of the most obnoxious in the country. http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000819.html | Mar 05 17:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lauren Weinstein's Blog: Déjà Vu: ISP Hijacking Google (and Other) Pages for Ads Via DPI - "Deep Packet Interference" .::. Size~: 9.32 KB | Mar 05 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Zeinobia: Congratulations!! RT @Sandmonkey: Its Bastille day in #Egypt. NO MORE STATE SECURITY. WE WON #jan25 #amndawla #nomore | Mar 05 17:09 | |
| people need to organize networks with their neighbors | Mar 05 17:09 | |
| a kind of cooperative bandwith and file sharing | Mar 05 17:10 | |
| it should work with whatever hookups are available and route automatically, like the internet is supposed to work. | Mar 05 17:10 | |
| this person thinks laying ethernet between houses is a good idea. I agree with that. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2011-March/000888.html | Mar 05 17:12 | |
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| MinceR | so do i | Mar 05 17:12 |
| MinceR | it would also help with nosy governments and corporations | Mar 05 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] RT@okami #Assange lawyer under investigation in Sweden http://ping.fm/YCYgh !wikileaks | Mar 05 17:12 | |
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| sebsebseb | nisshh: about? | Mar 05 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Leaked Docs Show Results of Fake ‘RIAA/MPAA’ BitTorrent Scam http://ping.fm/O3R2d | Mar 05 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sergiorauber/@sergiorauber] RT @wikileaks2: Bradley Manning's forced nudity to occur daily | Salon http://is.gd/vjLxSv !wl | Mar 05 17:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Mar 05 17:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @techglance Handheld millimeter / microwave camera to see through walls, your underpants http://bit.ly/f3tfr6 | Mar 05 17:24 | |
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| tyrants seem obsessed with humiliating people by stripping them of their clothes and privacy | Mar 05 17:26 | |
| they want to make people feel like chattel | Mar 05 17:27 | |
| schestowitz | [17:12] <MinceR> it would also help with nosy governments and corporations | Mar 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Assange made a career out of such stuff, when working in an ISP | Mar 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz | twitter: cattle? | Mar 05 17:29 |
| slaves | Mar 05 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | Either way, people around me warn me to watch out about threats from people whom I criticise because I'm too apathetic towards it | Mar 05 17:29 |
| hmmm, sounds threatening | Mar 05 17:30 | |
| Gates and friends can do nasty things to you but you are protected by your avoidance of the things they control and by your notoriety | Mar 05 17:31 | |
| I have not heard back from anyone in Indiana yet but suspect Gates screwed the inAccess program. | Mar 05 17:33 | |
| Then there's whey they did to Massachusetts | Mar 05 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Simon is a little firestarter isn't he? :D #yogscast | Mar 05 17:34 | |
| Just think of how many hundreds of millions of dollars Massachusetts and Indiana could have saved by now if their free software initiatives had gone through. | Mar 05 17:35 | |
| Indiana had already saved tens if not hundreds. | Mar 05 17:36 | |
| So look what the state does instead, moves to Windows 7. http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000008067 | Mar 05 17:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Case Study: Windows 7 Professional - Indiana Office of Technology .::. Size~: 74.83 KB | Mar 05 17:38 |
| I'm sure that was a disaster. | Mar 05 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] thought of the day: is a person that undertakes many undertakings - an undertaker?.. | Mar 05 17:39 | |
| dumping on students. http://ittrainingtips.iu.edu/general-news/getting-ready-for-windows-7/09/2009 | Mar 05 17:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Getting Ready for Windows 7 | Indiana University: IT Training Tips Blog .::. Size~: 43.87 KB | Mar 05 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Yes, so typical | Mar 05 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't find time like I used to for keeping track of Gates' mischief | Mar 05 17:43 |
| You know that you are in trouble when the University uses application server pages to tell you what "Unix" things they have for you. http://iuware.indiana.edu/ | Mar 05 17:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IUware Online .::. Size~: 12.69 KB | Mar 05 17:44 |
| yep, just what I thought http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fiuware.indiana.edu%2F | Mar 05 17:45 | |
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| They did the same thing at LSU. Put in a Microsoft run "knowledge base" | Mar 05 17:45 | |
| dumped all sorts of Microsoft junk, stealing from the student tech fees when they could. | Mar 05 17:46 | |
| I don't have much time to track this stuff either and the Gates people wrap everything in NDAs and proxies. Still, I have more time than you because I'm not busy with three jobs and authoring daily links. | Mar 05 17:48 | |
| Just one job and three kids. | Mar 05 17:48 | |
| cubezzz | sounds awful, re: LSU | Mar 05 17:50 |
| cubezzz | sometimes I wonder about Waterloo | Mar 05 17:50 |
| Gates pushes people around with money, creating small showcases that journalists love but these are dead ends. | Mar 05 17:52 | |
| journalists should be trained to ask tough questions about so called showcases. | Mar 05 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: L'ESPRESSO: Con Silvio per prendere il Nord | http://is.gd/1AxdeK http://bit.ly/gixPcY | Mar 05 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Bradley Manning's forced nudity to occur daily | Salon http://is.gd/vjLxSv http://bit.ly/fP8pKk | Mar 05 17:52 | |
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| cubezzz | basically we need more FOSS knowledgeable journalists | Mar 05 17:53 |
| Things were not all a loss at LSU. Almost everyone in the IT department was running gnu/linux | Mar 05 17:53 | |
| cubezzz | twitter, check out this weirdness: | Mar 05 17:53 |
| cubezzz | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwaterloo.ca | Mar 05 17:53 |
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| cubezzz | ah well that's good | Mar 05 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Red Hat Changed Source Distribution to Hamper Oracle and Novell http://lxnews.org/2011/03/05/red-hat-to-hamper-oracle-and-novell/ | Mar 05 17:54 | |
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| Even Microsoft representatives are basically admitting that anyone who knows about computing (developers) has moved to free software, so the overall battle is being won. | Mar 05 17:54 | |
| cubezzz | I think so | Mar 05 17:55 |
| cubezzz | look at HDTVs and ereaders, mostly they are Linux based | Mar 05 17:55 |
| cubezzz | mainly the Microsoft stranglehold is on the OEMs | Mar 05 17:55 |
| Very strange stuff at Waterloo | Mar 05 17:55 | |
| cubezzz | yes | Mar 05 17:55 |
| Microsoft targets "government and private elites" in their EDGI program and probably everywhere. | Mar 05 17:56 | |
| They bamboozle or replace decision makers to get what they want. | Mar 05 17:56 | |
| but they can't bamboozle everyone | Mar 05 17:56 | |
| the techs ignore them | Mar 05 17:56 | |
| cubezzz | that was the City of Waterloo, here is the University: | Mar 05 17:56 |
| cubezzz | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fuwaterloo.ca | Mar 05 17:56 |
| cubezzz | much better :) | Mar 05 17:57 |
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| and it gets harder for them to convince the decision makers when all their support people have a clue | Mar 05 17:57 | |
| cubezzz | right, well Waterloo and MIT are tech so the students and faculty should know the score | Mar 05 17:58 |
| IIS and Windows Server use are a sure sign of incompetence. | Mar 05 17:58 | |
| or political monkey business | Mar 05 17:58 | |
| notice how Microsoft shoves their stuff on government | Mar 05 17:59 | |
| cubezzz | http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fmuenchen.de | Mar 05 18:00 |
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| cubezzz | Munich knows better too | Mar 05 18:00 |
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| DaemonFC | "I didn't say you were evil, I said you are a fruitcake" -Me to a Mormon missionary that came to my door | Mar 05 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 05 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mega article on Assange. At first poorly sourced, but good stuff later: http://is.gd/69YodA and http://is.gd/lYYUzD !wl | Mar 05 18:04 | |
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| cubezzz | fruitcake is evil | Mar 05 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fruitcake is the gift that keeps on giving | Mar 05 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | it ends when someone actually eats it ten years later and goes to the hospital | Mar 05 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxnews in a very stupid move as its easily worked around if you have deep pockets to become customers. | Mar 05 18:07 | |
| Skype and Flash don't work with the new v4l in Squeeze. That's how non free software is. People using that software will have to stick with Lenny if they want to keep using the even staler software in those packages to work their web cams. Old libraries help but the real solution is to use nothing but free software. http://dontsurfinthenude.blogspot.com/2011/03/skype-in-debian.html | Mar 05 18:10 | |
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| MinceR | they could run lenny with that proprietary crap in a chroot or a vm, could they not? | Mar 05 18:12 |
| MinceR | though of course it's better to just not use skype and minimize the usage of trash | Mar 05 18:12 |
| VMs work but it is better to be free | Mar 05 18:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Skype is awesome, especially when it doesn't want to work without Pulseaudio | Mar 05 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | (and doesn't work well with it) | Mar 05 18:14 |
| I have yet to see this Pulseaudio, who's pushing it? | Mar 05 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Computerspiele verderben Kinder nicht, Karneval ist viel schlimmer! Oo | Mar 05 18:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian's kernel has such high latency that if you want to do VOIP or mutimedia stuff you have to build your own | Mar 05 18:14 |
| nonsense | Mar 05 18:14 | |
| I used skype on Lenny for a year on a stock kernel and a netbook. | Mar 05 18:15 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC schestowitz :) http://www.muktware.com/n/04/2011/806/ubuntu-maryland-leader-quits-canonical-hijacking-ubuntu | Mar 05 18:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Maryland Leader Quits, Is Canonical Hijacking Ubuntu? | Muktware .::. Size~: 23.73 KB | Mar 05 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I hate Debian's KConfig | Mar 05 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's hardly usable | Mar 05 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | clearly intended for a server | Mar 05 18:16 |
| there's a lot of Ubuntu FUD in the air these days. | Mar 05 18:16 | |
| sebsebseb | twitter: uhmm whatever, read this go on :) good news I think http://www.muktware.com/n/04/2011/806/ubuntu-maryland-leader-quits-canonical-hijacking-ubuntu | Mar 05 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Maryland Leader Quits, Is Canonical Hijacking Ubuntu? | Muktware .::. Size~: 23.73 KB | Mar 05 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not saying I like Ubuntu, but their kernel is a hell of a lot better for desktops than Debian's | Mar 05 18:16 |
| MinceR | twitter: canonical causes pretty of reason for it | Mar 05 18:16 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uh I have never had serious kernel issues in Ubuntu :) if any issues at all really | Mar 05 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's is a litany of crap that should NEVER be used for a desktop kernel | Mar 05 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: as far as I know | Mar 05 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has the most sane KConfig I've seen in a major distro, second to Mandriva | Mar 05 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | really do the differnet versions of the same Linux kernel version make such a difference? | Mar 05 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Have people already forgotten that Nokia is Ballmer's bitch now? | Mar 05 18:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva actually breaks out separate kernels optimized for different workloads | Mar 05 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | but Fedora's generic kernel is the best all around | Mar 05 18:17 |
| MinceR | even ubuntu has a separate server kernel, iirc | Mar 05 18:18 |
| MinceR | though in dapper it caused a reboot when it booted | Mar 05 18:18 |
| it's been years since I did anything with custom kernels | Mar 05 18:18 | |
| people who really know what they are doing use gentoo and build their own | Mar 05 18:19 | |
| I never got that deep into it | Mar 05 18:19 | |
| MinceR | i do have a custom kernel on this laptop | Mar 05 18:20 |
| MinceR | it has the Terratec H7 driver hacked into it :> | Mar 05 18:20 |
| Debian's kernel build was not too hard at the time. You just downloaded the source and followed it. | Mar 05 18:20 | |
| it would auto build and install | Mar 05 18:20 | |
| fancy customization could be added if you wanted | Mar 05 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @evan If I have 734 friends on Facebook, why do I have to take a taxi to the airport? Something's wrong here. | Mar 05 18:21 | |
| from a desktop user perspective, it was a waste of time | Mar 05 18:21 | |
| the stock kernels worked good enough and all of the modules for other things are ready to go | Mar 05 18:21 | |
| Virtual Box, for example, comes with ready to run modules. | Mar 05 18:22 | |
| I have yet to test any VOIP on Squeeze because my Lenny netbook works so well. | Mar 05 18:23 | |
| I'd love to get rid of skype, so I should start playing with it. | Mar 05 18:23 | |
| bbl, it's family fun day. :-D | Mar 05 18:23 | |
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| cubezzz | I'm not completey happy with any OS | Mar 05 18:24 |
| cubezzz | but Vector Linux isn't bad | Mar 05 18:24 |
| MinceR | neither am i | Mar 05 18:24 |
| cubezzz | just it's LFS then :) | Mar 05 18:25 |
| cubezzz | just -> guess | Mar 05 18:25 |
| cubezzz | come on brain | Mar 05 18:25 |
| MinceR | nah, no time for that | Mar 05 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #AUSTRUMI 2.2.9 http://ur1.ca/3e81y #latvia #gnu #linux | Mar 05 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Time for everyone to visit #Geohot Websites? Data overload is called for here http://ping.fm/Zpv1u | Mar 05 18:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gnome Shell 3, Good Bad & Ugly http://ur1.ca/3e82c big debate http://ur1.ca/3e82d http://ur1.ca/3e82e | Mar 05 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First day with #Fedora 14 http://ur1.ca/3e82l having just left #ubuntu | Mar 05 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gnome Shell 3, Good Bad & Ugly | Muktware .::. Size~: 23.66 KB | Mar 05 18:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3 Good Reasons To Buy an Open-PC http://ur1.ca/3e82x #openpc #gnu #linux #outOfBox | Mar 05 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong http://ur1.ca/3e83a not a #gnu #linux issue at all | Mar 05 18:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My Thoughts on #BodhiLinux http://ur1.ca/3e83l "after using it for about five or six days I can definitively say that I love it!" | Mar 05 18:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] After heavy lobbying, Obama makes a choice: to side with Arab dictatorships | WSJ http://is.gd/Vbc1vT !wl | Mar 05 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian or #Ubuntu , which is the best place to contribute? http://ur1.ca/3e0hl more Debian at http://ur1.ca/3e84o http://ur1.ca/3e84p | Mar 05 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anonymous being interviewed on Al Jazeera | Mar 05 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZaReason Teo Pro Netbook: Test Drive Ready for Takeoff http://ur1.ca/3e854 #subnotebook #gnu #linux | Mar 05 18:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ZaReason Teo Pro Netbook: Test Drive Ready for Takeoff | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 61.1 KB | Mar 05 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canada 's government ought to adopt #GNU #Linux on all its computers http://ur1.ca/3e858 "programmers can write their own programs" | Mar 05 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Mega article on Assange. At first poorly sourced, but good stuff later: http://is.gd/69YodA and htt... http://bit.ly/edUUgx | Mar 05 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: After heavy lobbying, Obama makes a choice: to side with Arab dictatorships | WSJ http://is.gd/Vbc1vT http://bit.ly/fsY7vz | Mar 05 18:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: timestranscript.com - Canada's government ought to adopt Linux on all its computers - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada .::. Size~: 57.92 KB | Mar 05 18:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bacon Is Still Talked About For #Fedora 16 http://ur1.ca/3e85z p0rky relase? | Mar 05 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GR: First migration of a Greek Public Organization to Free Software http://ur1.ca/3e862 it's about time too. Gates usually bribes against it | Mar 05 18:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ask Richard Stallman anything! http://ur1.ca/3e86c always fascinating to hear his answers | Mar 05 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Character Assassination of Julian Assange http://is.gd/tYNU7U !wl | Mar 05 19:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Character Assassination of Julian Assange | A World Beyond Borders .::. Size~: 71.58 KB | Mar 05 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rrrrrrrix/status/44111750496391169 | Mar 05 19:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rrrrrrrix: @schestowitz not when the questisons everyone asks are always the same. | Mar 05 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Mary Jo Foley thinks Microsoft is "still" ruling the server market? ROFL. Microsoft *never* ruled the server market... How moronic. | Mar 05 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @savebradley: "The US condemns human rights abuses abroad yet is allowing psychological torture of Bradley Manning" http://ur1.ca/3e33a | Mar 05 19:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning and the stench of US hypocrisy | Ryan Gallagher | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 241.37 KB | Mar 05 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @schestowitz: London Stock Exchange: What really went wrong http://ur1.ca/3e83a not a #gnu #linux issue at all | Mar 05 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Sony to obtain IP details of all visitors to Geohot’s site http://tinyurl.com/4j6neqo !sony !ps3 !rootkey !jailbreak | Mar 05 19:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony to obtain IP details of all visitors to Geohot’s site « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 37.47 KB | Mar 05 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: That Dave Bidini thing? It's a #MustRead. http://natpo.st/h7LxwT 'besides, there are other ways to earn a million dollars' | Mar 05 19:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nelly Furtado and the public shame of private concerts | Ampersand | National Post .::. Size~: 78.66 KB | Mar 05 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh dude... it's Mary Jo Foley... what would you expect? :) lol | Mar 05 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner It's easy for me to say, but I think the "rebels" should hold out. #Gadhafi only has so much mercenary money #libya | Mar 05 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks suspect: Where Army sees traitor,some see whistleblower http://ur1.ca/3e8dv "Ellsberg sees cause for alarm in Army's prosecution" | Mar 05 19:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb ♺ @satipera: @silner Bloody Reuters "Chavez the socialist leader" they never say "Obama the capitalist leade | Mar 05 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In restricted speech, former MI6 chief credits !WikiLeaks with ‘tidal wave’ of revolutions http://ur1.ca/3e8eq #ifwl | Mar 05 19:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In restricted speech, former MI6 chief credits WikiLeaks with ‘tidal wave’ of revolutions | Raw Replay .::. Size~: 73.59 KB | Mar 05 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks reveals illegal Peru mahogany exports in US stores http://ur1.ca/3e8ev "70-90% of its mahogany exports were illegally felled" | Mar 05 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Banksy bails out Russian graffiti artists http://ur1.ca/3e8f7 | Mar 05 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 93 dents! | Mar 05 19:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CENSORED NEWS: Wikileaks reveals illegal Peru mahogany exports in US stores .::. Size~: 223.11 KB | Mar 05 19:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Debian Is the Most Important !Linux http://ur1.ca/3e8fa | Mar 05 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Libya: Gaddafi son says bombs were 'misunderstanding' http://ur1.ca/3e8f8 maybe these were not "Smart Bombs" | Mar 05 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Leaked Docs Show Results of Fake ‘RIAA/MPAA’ BitTorrent Scam http://tinyurl.com/6yb5v9l !scam !piracy !riaa !mpaa !tpb !bittorrent | Mar 05 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Canada 's government ought to adopt #GNU #Linux on all its computers http://ur1.ca/3e858 ... | Mar 05 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: WebGL 1.0 is done. Where's Microsoft? http://tinyurl.com/6yb29up !microsoft !webgl | Mar 05 19:47 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: timestranscript.com - Canada's government ought to adopt Linux on all its computers - Breaking News, New Brunswick, Canada .::. Size~: 57.92 KB | Mar 05 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WebGL 1.0 is done. Where's Microsoft? | Webware - CNET .::. Size~: 98.56 KB | Mar 05 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Themis: Questions about #Palantir surface in #HBGary Federal’s aftermath http://ur1.ca/3e8fi #astroturfing !wikileaks | Mar 05 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Saudis mobilise thousands of troops to quell growing revolt - http://ind.pn/go1FJs wow, this isn't over yet, is it? ... | Mar 05 19:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Themis: Questions about Palantir surface in HBGary Federal’s aftermath - Security .::. Size~: 32.36 KB | Mar 05 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Saudis mobilise thousands of troops to quell growing revolt - Middle East, World - The Independent .::. Size~: 112.86 KB | Mar 05 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] it parses rss feeds; it downloads and displays episodes, it can *almost* play episodes; it should have been written in Vala | Mar 05 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jamie_love: Blind groups in different countries report USPTO flying around the world to lobby NGOs against a WIPO treaty for the blind. | Mar 05 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Mariah Carey admits cable was true--she did get $1 million from Gaddafi son in 2006 to sing four songs for him." http://ur1.ca/3e8g5 | Mar 05 19:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The WIKILEAKS NEWS & VIEWS BLOG for Thursday, Day 96 | The Nation .::. Size~: 68.75 KB | Mar 05 19:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lamm I gotta say, #GNOME3 is looking pretty good. Looking forward to what distros will do with it. http://www.gnome3.org | Mar 05 19:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNOME 3 - Made of Easy .::. Size~: 5.37 KB | Mar 05 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shooters walk free, whistleblower jailed http://ur1.ca/3e8go "Due to the enormous request Panorama has produced an English version" #ifwl | Mar 05 19:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Panorama - Shooters walk free, whistleblower jailed - DasErste.de .::. Size~: 15.42 KB | Mar 05 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz ♺ @lamm I gotta say, #GNOME3 is looking pretty good. Looking forward to what distros will do with it. http://www.gnome3.org | Mar 05 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @savebradley "Aiding the enemy" among newest charges: http://ur1.ca/3dt7o But "enemy" so vague as to include civilians—like us. | Mar 05 19:57 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning may face death penalty | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 95.13 KB | Mar 05 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] From East India Company to Google - http://bit.ly/htmIIU clever analysis; #china still bitter about that opium, it seems (v @evgenymorozov) | Mar 05 19:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opium Wars and the perfidy of Google - China Media Project .::. Size~: 45.06 KB | Mar 05 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 - Made of Lulzy | Mar 05 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb oO the Gadaffi family own 7% of #Juventus? football those shares have been suspended along with the rest of Gadaffi's accounts | Mar 05 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Wine has finally decided to not care about Windows 9x support | Mar 05 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 05 20:02 |
| MinceR | wtf | Mar 05 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | their regression tests no longer factor in Windows 9x behavior | Mar 05 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | so something could trigger a problem with Windows 9x-based applications and the tests won't fail now | Mar 05 20:04 |
| MinceR | that's stupid | Mar 05 20:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad "Why !Fedora?" - why #Kororaa is based on this #distro instead of #Gentoo or #Ubuntu. http://ur1.ca/3e8hw | Mar 05 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/claudiom72/status/44123347281387520 | Mar 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Fedora? | Kororaa Linux .::. Size~: 21.09 KB | Mar 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | https://twitter.com/claudiom72/status/44123347281387520 | Mar 05 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu developers report bugs they can't fix to Fedora's bugzilla | Mar 05 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think that says everything | Mar 05 20:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/claudiom72/status/44123347281387520 I rarely use these buttons. Virtual desktops are better. | Mar 05 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @claudiom72: @schestowitz I'm still not sure about not having min/max buttons, but we'll see... | Mar 05 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Vincent Untz talks sense on the Canonical/Banshee thing. Great blog post: http://outl.ws/gkXW78 | Mar 05 20:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical, you're breaking my heart - mon journal - par Vincent .::. Size~: 95.79 KB | Mar 05 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | why are people buying Ubuntu support from Canonical when Canonical gets stumped and files the bug against Fedora? | Mar 05 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious Ubuntu is not an enterprise Linux | Mar 05 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, fix this for us so we can turn around and give our customers the support they paid for. Oh, and please do it for free. Kthxbye!" | Mar 05 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Stripping Manning naked to compel him to testify against Assange is similar to abuses at Abu Ghraib & Guantanamo !wl | Mar 05 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera RT @thelasthominin What the hell is wrong with you, America? Wisconsin Senate approves use of force to arrest absent Democrats | Mar 05 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | maybe they're just going by their Code of Conduct that says when you don't know, step aside gracefully (to make way for people that do.....Fedora) | Mar 05 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb #xfce got a new look xfce.org nice and clean, but like #debian's new look, not very inspiring | Mar 05 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 Now 50 publishers releasing Cablegate material http://alturl.com/q6rrx !wl | Mar 05 20:09 | |
| DaemonFC | heh, one of the local yokels with a political blog deleted one of my comments for calling them a bunch of Fox Noise-watching mouth breathers | Mar 05 20:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] Click to add title http://www.google.com/search?q=click+to+add+title #random | Mar 05 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm RT @bananabob A bit of !humor http://is.gd/Xko7G3 << the crony shuffle begins | Mar 05 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 'Clinton admits WikiLeaks will dominate the rest of her life' http://is.gd/Kv2Suh !wl | Mar 05 20:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://breztech.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/why-would-google-chrome-remove-h-264-video-support/#comment-185 | Mar 05 20:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @CharlieAngusMP: #c32 radio owners cry poor at paying copyright to "foreign multinationals." Simple solution: play more canuck bands. | Mar 05 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @MarleeMatlin If @charliesheen were smart he'd turn himself into a brand & make #tigerblood an energy drink like #redbull or #krunk | Mar 05 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Leaked US cables likely to shape 2012 Kenyan election | Daily Nation http://is.gd/TVvQh5 !wl | Mar 05 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj The rise of the picosecond (eFinancial News): http://bit.ly/eIWveb | Mar 05 20:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daily Nation: - Politics |Leaked US cables likely to shape 2012 campaigns .::. Size~: 40.54 KB | Mar 05 20:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just realised one of #CharlieSheen's live in gf's is the pornstar #BreeOlson | Mar 05 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ml2mst Downloading #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 http://ur1.ca/3dvlm << ought to be good, no radical changes like #unity or #gnome3 | Mar 05 20:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @nidhoggstrike ♻ @rysiek idea: let's re-name some apt GUIs as "Apt Store". wordplay #ftw. #crapple would be pissed royale! :) !linux ... | Mar 05 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @vgrade: http://ur1.ca/3e8li meego on pandaboard, | Mar 05 20:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Meego on pandaboard .::. Size~: 102.67 KB | Mar 05 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Looking For Linux Hardware In A Easy Shopping List: After talking about the first week of OpenBenchmarking.org, ... http://bit.ly/ecjQrl | Mar 05 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @brews Nightmare -> waking up with no memory & a hangover to finding that I've wiped my entire hard drive and have FreeBSD half-insta ... | Mar 05 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ml2mst #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 runs like a charm on my laptop. [...] | Mar 05 20:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Looking For Linux Hardware In A Easy Shopping List .::. Size~: 17.72 KB | Mar 05 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @kernellogauthor [..] DOS a developer http://bit.ly/fRNPya whot "[..]FOSS project is moving too fast? Easy, just DOS the developers. [..]" | Mar 05 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: "Geohot intends to hack !Windows Phone 7...update: Geohot backs out" http://tinyurl.com/69xgczn - what would be the point anyway? !wp7 | Mar 05 20:32 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Geohot intends to hack Windows Phone 7 next week, update: Geohot backs out | WinRumors .::. Size~: 29.69 KB | Mar 05 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Revealed: The lies behind Bradley Manning's cruel, unsual & degrading treatment: http://is.gd/3KSFI1 !wl | Mar 05 20:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Law Office of David E. Coombs: The Truth Behind Quantico Brig's Decision to Strip PFC Manning .::. Size~: 99.07 KB | Mar 05 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ml2mst Jay! I'm installing #Kubuntu Natty Alpha 3 on my desktop ATM. Supports my USB wifi adapter out of the box, as expected. | Mar 05 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @toros #Dilbert at the Consumer Electronics Show http://goo.gl/kIEw9 | Mar 05 20:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dilbert comic strip for 03/04/2011 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. .::. Size~: 33.62 KB | Mar 05 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egyptions say sex tapes, and docs leaking are flooding out of Egypt's Secret Service. Search for #amndawla !wl | Mar 05 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What scientists really think about animal research http://ur1.ca/3e8nv #science #animalcruelty | Mar 05 20:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RIM's chief marketing officer resigns http://outl.ws/eCcWxv | Mar 05 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Extraordinary times as Egyptians storm Secret Services archives. Go Egypt! http://alturl.com/bx6hx #amndawla !wl | Mar 05 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Moby Says The Major Record Labels 'Should Die' - http://bit.ly/g3AXT7 go on, tell us what you really think #recordingindustry | Mar 05 20:44 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moby Says The Major Record Labels 'Should Die' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 90.7 KB | Mar 05 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Impromptu party at #ProjectPirate. @th3k4ty is playing Dragon Age while we are hacking on the script and drinking beer. | Mar 05 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] If you thought Wikileaks was important wait untill the Egyptians start uploading what they found tonight. !wl | Mar 05 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror: can we stop defining ourselves by invisible sky friends and land that happened to be under us when we fell out of our mothers? | Mar 05 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes Love it, NDA prevents #mvp from talking about new #microsoft tech seen at the summit. Maybe because there is nothing new? | Mar 05 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes And while I'm at it, are the travel costs for the #mvp swallowed by #microsoft? Another perk? How about full disclosure? | Mar 05 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !WikiLeaks spokesman wins Journalist of the Year in Iceland http://ur1.ca/3e8pw Will Clinton and Biden call him a "terrorist", too? | Mar 05 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[felipeborges/@felipeborges] ♺ @wikileaks: If you thought Wikileaks was important wait untill the Egyptians start uploading what they found tonight. !WikiLeaks | Mar 05 20:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @MahyAshmawy: @wikileaks we are uncovering the secrets of the worst entity in #Egypt, everyone has a file there #AmnDawla !wl | Mar 05 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks calls more charges against soldier a "vindictive attack" http://is.gd/eGgSeo !wl | Mar 05 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Armenian revolution of reform : March 1, 2011 http://on.fb.me/gbRbJB wow, exciting: spreading here, too... (v @hpNYR) #armenia | Mar 05 20:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: For those asking did US know of #AmnDawla torture - they knew and rendered terrorism suspects to Egyp... http://bit.ly/i6baus | Mar 05 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Muslims rendered by Sweden + CIA to #AmnDawla (Egypt SS) reported to be in torture archives http://bit.ly/eM9Izo | Mar 05 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner Unlikeliest true sentence, ever. "I"m just going to show you a kidney we printed earlier." http://ping.fm/w722d | Mar 05 20:57 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TED 2011 roundup: bionic body parts, self-driving cars and Jamie Oliver | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 140.63 KB | Mar 05 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Not 5 seconds after typing the "on" command on #Pidgin's XMPP plugin, the 1st dent that comes in is from @schestowitz. | Mar 05 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] For those asking did US know of #AmnDawla torture - they knew and rendered terrorism suspects to Egypt to be tortured !wl | Mar 05 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Muslims rendered by Sweden + CIA to #AmnDawla (Egypt SS) reported to be in torture archives !wl | Mar 05 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Underground cells in Egypt's SS HQ in Nasr City, Cairo. This place witnessed years of torture: is.gd/xGkyQL #AmnDawla !wl | Mar 05 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I don't understand why Canonical were wrong footed over this Banshee issue. The consequences were so obvious, even to me | Mar 05 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egyptian SS #AmnDawla penetration videos http://alturl.com/4c2os !wl | Mar 05 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @silner Ubuntu users who won't apply security patches are at risk, moans ZDnet http://ping.fm/OYP7g #zdnet #fud #sigh | Mar 05 21:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git3 | Mar 05 21:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay Best way to skill up people is to actually do a FOSS project not proprietary stuff, Mr Minister! | Mar 05 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Elementary GTK Theme 2.1 Released http://goo.gl/a98er | Mar 05 21:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egyptians: Don't throw away #AmnDawla shredded paper! We have the world's best shredder reconstruction team on hand. !wl | Mar 05 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @arnebab “Exporting Tweets now violates the TOS” → rww.to/gPHLgB — I’m thinking of stopping my http://identi.ca/arnebab to #twitter | Mar 05 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @phoronix Khronos Puts Out The Final WebGL 1.0 Specification: From the Game Developers' Conference happening... http://bit.ly/fiT64w | Mar 05 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter Microsoft Death Watch – Tablet Wars - http://bit.ly/hI5ZkB #microsoft | Mar 05 21:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Khronos Puts Out The Final WebGL 1.0 Specification .::. Size~: 17.55 KB | Mar 05 21:31 |
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| gnufreex | Is this WebGL good? Somebody tried messing with it? | Mar 05 21:31 |
| schestowitz | "#Inflation in !China? well, just a little... cherries cost ?27 per kilo! !OnlyInChina #absurd" | Mar 05 21:31 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no, | Mar 05 21:32 |
| schestowitz | they have patent near it | Mar 05 21:32 |
| schestowitz | But it's not all bad | Mar 05 21:32 |
| schestowitz | !google fsf opengl patents | Mar 05 21:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - FSF Announces GNU Gnash - Flash Movie Player [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-115381.html | Mar 05 21:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linux.com :: SGI relicenses OpenGL: "A huge gift to the free ... | http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/148339 | Mar 05 21:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - gleem - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | http://www.gnu.org/software/gleem/ | Mar 05 21:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Thank you SGI, for freeing the GNU/Linux 3D desktop! — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/thank-you-sgi | Mar 05 21:32 |
| gnufreex | Who ha a patent? | Mar 05 21:32 |
| schestowitz | SGI | Mar 05 21:32 |
| gnufreex | They are harmless. | Mar 05 21:32 |
| gnufreex | Their bussiness is bassed on GNU/Linux | Mar 05 21:33 |
| *Aondo_ is now known as Aondo | Mar 05 21:33 | |
| gnufreex | Well. If I think better. | Mar 05 21:33 |
| gnufreex | I am not so sure | Mar 05 21:34 |
| gnufreex | It is Rackable now | Mar 05 21:34 |
| gnufreex | And they did Windows supercompters recently. | Mar 05 21:34 |
| gnufreex | But it is mostly GNU/Linux still. | Mar 05 21:34 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 05 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Without Microsoft tax | Mar 05 21:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bacon Is Still Talked About For #Fedora 16 http://ur1.ca/3e85z with a name like this, is #redhat rooting for @jonobacon (defecting)? | Mar 05 21:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Bacon Is Still Talked About For Fedora 16 .::. Size~: 17.3 KB | Mar 05 21:39 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-calls-protest-as-movie-sharer-jailed-for-30-days-110304/ | Mar 05 21:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Mar 05 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "Following an investigation into the online sharing of a new movie, Serbiafs High-Tech crime unit has swooped on an apartment in the capital Belgrade where they arrested a 51-year-old man. Following interrogation and an apparent confession, in just one day a judge has ruled the man can be detained in jail for 30 days. The Pirate Party are now calling for protests today." | Mar 05 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Still mentioned in context of rogue activity | Mar 05 21:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Bacon, Bacon, I smell Bacon, gimme what's in the bag, I can't read, what does it saaaaaaaay!? | Mar 05 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's gotta be Bacon cause only one thing smells like Bacon, and that's BACON!!!!! | Mar 05 21:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362947/Heart-Attack-Grill-spokesman-Blair-River-dies-29-pneumonia.html | Mar 05 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Heart Attack Grill spokesman Blair River dies at 29 of pneumonia | Mail Online .::. Size~: 72.4 KB | Mar 05 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | good afternoon "Buff" Roy | Mar 05 21:44 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Mar 05 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I finally got Doomsday to compile | Mar 05 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | that took some googling and some screwing with the Makefile, and so on so forth :( | Mar 05 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Just read the article you linked to http://www.zdnet.com.au/ubuntu-peppered-with-holes-339310663.htm | Mar 05 21:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu peppered with holes - Security - News .::. Size~: 117.81 KB | Mar 05 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | ZDnet should have won a journalist award from that | Mar 05 21:45 |
| GoForbes28 | *for | Mar 05 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I saw it yesterday | Mar 05 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I then ignored it | Mar 05 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Looked like typical ZDRubbish | Mar 05 21:47 |
| schestowitz | breaking... exclusive... Linux needs patches | Mar 05 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] iDect iHome #Android phone http://ur1.ca/3dyv7 running #linux of course | Mar 05 21:47 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Tomorrow, PC viruses rampant everywhere!! | Mar 05 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Need, more, patches!!!!!! Ballmer not satisfied with Windows 7 being the only current OS with a back catalog of 1.2 GB of fixes | Mar 05 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | UNNNNGGGGGHHHHH!!!! | Mar 05 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | PATCHES!!!! | Mar 05 21:48 |
| *DaemonFC grabs schestowitz by the collar | Mar 05 21:49 | |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, I assume you guys have seen those Windows 8 screenshots of the new "revolutionary" interafce? | Mar 05 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | GIMME MAH PATCHES MAN!!! | Mar 05 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm hurtin', need my FIX! | Mar 05 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aondo/@aondo] Even tho i work for a company monitoring news and social media, i love to see this happening: http://is.gd/QabMg3 Love your talks too Moglen | Mar 05 21:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Freedom Box gets off the ground [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 45.22 KB | Mar 05 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Don't give me none a' them candy ass local root escalations, I'm talkin' the hard candy, arbitrary code execution from remote! | Mar 05 21:51 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Shows+Off+Radical+New+UI+Could+be+Used+in+Windows+8/article21005.htm? | Mar 05 21:52 |
| *DaemonFC has had too much coffee | Mar 05 21:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DailyTech - Microsoft Shows Off Radical New UI, Could be Used in Windows 8 .::. Size~: 857.31 KB | Mar 05 21:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dhraak/@dhraak] Are there any pro- !wikileaks/Manning events in the works for the !Rochester/Western NY area? | Mar 05 21:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Vista7 Second Edition | Mar 05 21:52 |
| GoForbes28 | even worse | Mar 05 21:53 |
| MinceR | m$ shows off radical new vaporware | Mar 05 21:53 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 05 21:53 |
| GoForbes28 | I mean look at that interface | Mar 05 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | only $120 more for current customers | Mar 05 21:53 |
| GoForbes28 | It looks like an LSD episode | Mar 05 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | this time EVERYTHING works, we PROMISE | Mar 05 21:53 |
| MinceR | now our windows are shaped differently | Mar 05 21:53 |
| MinceR | bow before us | Mar 05 21:53 |
| GoForbes28 | Minimum requirements: 100 gb | Mar 05 21:53 |
| GoForbes28 | for uh, "backwards compatiblity" | Mar 05 21:53 |
| MinceR | we're developing a brand new technology that lets you waste 99% of your screen space, letting you use smartphone-type apps on a 30" monitor | Mar 05 21:54 |
| GoForbes28 | and "hardware support | Mar 05 21:54 |
| MinceR | only from m$ | Mar 05 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's essentially no difference between Vista SP2 + Platform Update and Windows 7 | Mar 05 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | name one thing that's worth a $120 upgrade | Mar 05 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | I can't | Mar 05 21:54 |
| GoForbes28 | Now every application uses the ribbon, even the calculator!! | Mar 05 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Weapons and the art of diplomacy http://ur1.ca/3e8z7 "Lockheed Martin wanted to sell C-130 military..the U.S. embassy..lend a hand." #ifwl | Mar 05 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egyptians: Here is an example of anti-shredding, used to piece together the Stasi (German SS) archives http://is.gd/hMQXvY !wl | Mar 05 21:54 | |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 05 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Special report: Weapons and the art of diplomacy - chicagotribune.com .::. Size~: 152.52 KB | Mar 05 21:54 |
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| DaemonFC | the ribbon, the handyBallmer's secret weapon | Mar 05 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Can the ribbon use a ribbon? | Mar 05 21:54 |
| GoForbes28 | *requires 1280/1024 resolution minimum | Mar 05 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | from deep within the Screw Google meeting | Mar 05 21:54 |
| MinceR | yo dawg, i heard you liked useless stupid GUI gimmicks | Mar 05 21:55 |
| schestowitz | while we're ribbonning? (Yo Dawg!) | Mar 05 21:55 |
| MinceR | s/ked/ke/ | Mar 05 21:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Ribbons increase productivity!! | Mar 05 21:55 |
| MinceR | ...of m$ sales staff? | Mar 05 21:55 |
| GoForbes28 | and the retraining force | Mar 05 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, apparently nobody seems to think there's something wrong with having to crack system files to enable a theme change | Mar 05 21:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Of course not | Mar 05 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | deeply wrong :) | Mar 05 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' http://ur1.ca/3e8zp "according to a US embassy cable leaked by WikiLeaks." | Mar 05 21:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AFP: Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' .::. Size~: 9.9 KB | Mar 05 21:56 |
| MinceR | m$ shills don't think there's anything wrong with it | Mar 05 21:56 |
| GoForbes28 | It's open source see? | Mar 05 21:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Because you can hack the code | Mar 05 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's neat how they lock out the ability for the user to change themes and then point you to some $50 utility that their "partner" has that enables that for you | Mar 05 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | little convenient | Mar 05 21:57 |
| GoForbes28 | hey hey, they gotta generate chump change some way | Mar 05 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | at one point I screwed around with XP's theming engine and had it looking like Ubuntu | Mar 05 21:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Why bother? It uses yet more memory | Mar 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I copied the theme from Hardy Heron | Mar 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | just to do it | Mar 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 05 21:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Being Microsoft, they couldn't use PNGs for themes | Mar 05 21:58 |
| GoForbes28 | no native transparency for us! | Mar 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | we're working on that, give us 10 more years | Mar 05 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 21:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Instead, let's use uncompressed bitmaps with pink backgrounds | Mar 05 21:58 |
| GoForbes28 | and "pink-screen" them to give the illusion of transparency | Mar 05 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | they only just started supporting SVG in IE 9 | Mar 05 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's been around since when? | Mar 05 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | and they still don't support XML styling in it (SMIL) | Mar 05 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Parts of Khaled Said's #AmnDawla file have been located. !wl | Mar 05 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Another Cyberwarfare botnet blah blah piece from BBC (our world programme) again no mention of Microsoft windows. | Mar 05 21:59 | |
| DaemonFC | they only support javascript styling | Mar 05 21:59 |
| GoForbes28 | 2001 | Mar 05 21:59 |
| GoForbes28 | SVG year, if you are still wondering | Mar 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | for a while, you had to get a plugin from Adobe to enable SVG in Internet Explorer | Mar 05 22:00 |
| GoForbes28 | They probably thought Windows Metafile was "good enough" | Mar 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | libwmf frequently has vulnerabilities jsut because it has to be compatible with Microsoft WMF | Mar 05 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Harvard Law Reviews !WikiLeaks #Censorship http://ur1.ca/3e908 "With false statements coming from the State Department, key Senators.." | Mar 05 22:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Harvard Law Reviews WikiLeaks Censorship | GroundReport .::. Size~: 70.91 KB | Mar 05 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | you ever notice this? | Mar 05 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Why is Microsoft's version doing things that way?" "Oh well, let's just copy that behavior" | Mar 05 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:01 |
| GoForbes28 | example? | Mar 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's a problem with reverse engineering, you have to do things certain ways even if you have no idea why | Mar 05 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | I sorta know what you're saying | Mar 05 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | oh right | Mar 05 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | Mar 05 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | sorry, brain fart there | Mar 05 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | You know, if Steam was Free software and not DRM, it wouldn't be a half-bad idea | Mar 05 22:03 |
| GoForbes28 | too bad those two factors totally destroy it a concept | Mar 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Media files are harmless to play back through VLC or FFMPEG, etc. | Mar 05 22:03 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Wow... | Mar 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | because almost all the vulnerabilities related to those are in the DRM system | Mar 05 22:04 |
| GoForbes28 | Thus, once again, the secure way to use Microsoft software is to not use Microsoft software | Mar 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | I listen to a couple streams that are only available in WMA over MMS | Mar 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | VLC can handle them fine | Mar 05 22:04 |
| GoForbes28 | Too bad VLC can't play that new Adobe steaming nonsense, RTP | Mar 05 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately there's still a few organizations that are being sold on the WMA is twice as good at half the bitrate of MP3 malarkey | Mar 05 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera Anyone who thinks that BBC is impartial or does not self censor or [..] political pressure Google Kate Adie 1986 #Libya bombing. | Mar 05 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple: you must be at least 17 years old to use #Opera http://ur1.ca/3dyeu #Microsoft Emil takes on #Apple #censorship | Mar 05 22:06 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: "piracy law" is completely fascist in Serbia, and we also have crazy software patents law. All set up for USA wishes. Only good thing is that nobody obeys it. If they start enforcing, it will be a warning for other countries what happens if you listen US. They could arrest all people who have computers. | Mar 05 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple: you must be at least 17 years old to use Opera - TechSpot .::. Size~: 62.63 KB | Mar 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft was claiming at one point you could stream at 28.8kbps and get CD quality if you used WMA | Mar 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | (CDDA = PCM @ 1411kbps | Mar 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | you tell me what you think? | Mar 05 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I want to know who their test subjects were | Mar 05 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I'm thinking Wilford Brimley and the lady from the Help, I've Fallen and I Can't Get Up commercials | Mar 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz | [22:07] <DaemonFC> I want to know who their test subjects were | Mar 05 22:08 |
| GoForbes28 | Where's the beef? | Mar 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Toothpaste and Comb | Mar 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | I want to know where this renegade demon possessed WMA encoder has been hiding | Mar 05 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @diablod3 More carry-on luggage costing #TSA millions a year, solution is to fire the TSA http://ur1.ca/3dybv | Mar 05 22:09 | |
| DaemonFC | maybe Ballmer keeps it or himself | Mar 05 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More carry-on luggage costing TSA millions a year - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 170.77 KB | Mar 05 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | *for | Mar 05 22:09 |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah, along with copies of Cairo and Longhorn | Mar 05 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trashbird1240 @fabsh: I pronounce RHEL "arr hell" because I like to say "hell" << like DHell and BHell? | Mar 05 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | I'm Seriously Considering NaNoWriMo This November http://tighturl.com/2zke | Mar 05 22:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: I'm Seriously Considering NaNoWriMo This November | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 25.48 KB | Mar 05 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | imagine a Microsoft version of IRC | Mar 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28: There is a Microsoft IRC client | Mar 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Comic_Chat | Mar 05 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Comic Chat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 78.46 KB | Mar 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | they extended it to support "comic" style chats, and non-Microsoft clients would see strings of gibberish instead of the styling, obviously | Mar 05 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | leading it to be banned from most IRC networks | Mar 05 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | though you could turn the comic crap off and use it as a plain IRC client | Mar 05 22:13 |
| GoForbes28 | though why would you want to | Mar 05 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | at that time I used Mirc | Mar 05 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egyptians create beautiful Amn Dawla leaks logo http://is.gd/CfCVmg !wl | Mar 05 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @G20inquiry: If this isn't a sign of fascism I don't know what is !! Also if you haven't heard at the end of G20... http://fb.me/sPSWX2sB | Mar 05 22:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 05 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tories rebrand ‘Government of Canada’ as ‘Harper Government’ - thestar.com .::. Size~: 109.71 KB | Mar 05 22:14 |
| GoForbes28 | http://fb.me/sPSWX2sB ... | Mar 05 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tories rebrand ‘Government of Canada’ as ‘Harper Government’ - thestar.com .::. Size~: 109.7 KB | Mar 05 22:15 |
| GoForbes28 | I rebrand Harper as fascist tit | Mar 05 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Ximians ported Quake to Silverlight | Mar 05 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] too many people cleared their cash....erm cache...a web designers explanation of the financial crisis in a soundbyte....erm, soundbite lol | Mar 05 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC | proof of concept (that you can take a native app there's nothing wrong with and run it at 1/3rd the speed in Mono?) | Mar 05 22:18 |
| GoForbes28 | Yo, Roy, please keep up the news about Prime Minister Fascist Tit Dictator | Mar 05 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrelfish | Mar 05 22:19 |
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| DaemonFC | heh, a BSD-licensed OS from Microsoft? | Mar 05 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] First probable leaked documents from #AmnDawla in #Egypt. Zipped images: http://bit.ly/hh15Mw Flickr: http://bit.ly/hZLwC5 !wl | Mar 05 22:19 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Fork it, FORK IT! | Mar 05 22:20 |
| GoForbes28 | Call it CrapOS and share Microsoft's genius with the world. | Mar 05 22:20 |
| MinceR | or call it Ballmerfish | Mar 05 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' http://ur1.ca/3e8zp "according to a US embassy cable leaked by WikiLeaks." | Mar 05 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Madness! ♻ @schestowitz #Apple: you must be at least 17 years old to use #Opera http://ur1.ca/3dyeu #wtf | Mar 05 22:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AFP: Swaziland 'imports firearms through Mozambique' .::. Size~: 9.9 KB | Mar 05 22:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple: you must be at least 17 years old to use Opera - TechSpot .::. Size~: 62.55 KB | Mar 05 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | wrap the GPL around it | Mar 05 22:21 |
| GoForbes28 | I bet Microsoft would try to sue for that some how. | Mar 05 22:22 |
| *DaemonFC ports Cocoa over to Ballmerfish, renames it to OS Ballmerfish Extreme, and installs it on MinceR's PC | Mar 05 22:24 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Peru: Wikileaks, USA, and their Effect on the Presidential Campaign http://is.gd/p7djy3 !wl | Mar 05 22:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Peru: Wikileaks, USA, and their Effect on the Presidential Campaign · Global Voices .::. Size~: 150.96 KB | Mar 05 22:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't forget to add Mono | Mar 05 22:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Just read this http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/28/barack-obama-delay-climate-action | Mar 05 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Barack Obama may be forced to delay US climate action | Environment | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.25 KB | Mar 05 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Parents with small children and heart conditions should not experience the awesomeness of Opera as relates to Safari as this may cause swearing and an unsafe increase in blood pressure | Mar 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:26 |
| GoForbes28 | "Republicans were united in their opposition to the EPA regulating greenhouse gas emissions. "All of those members agree that the Clean Air Act because of its structure is not the right tool for executing those policies," she said." | Mar 05 22:26 |
| MinceR | people who want to experience awesomeness shouldn't purchase crApple products | Mar 05 22:26 |
| GoForbes28 | Really, then what the f**k is, geniuses?!! | Mar 05 22:26 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: asking nicely, of course. | Mar 05 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28: The Republican plan is to repeal worker safety, environmental protection, and wage and hour laws | Mar 05 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | then look the other way | Mar 05 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | figures | Mar 05 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | come back in a re-election year and talk about gods, guns, and gays | Mar 05 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't worry, the invisible hand will fix everything | Mar 05 22:28 |
| GoForbes28 | Except for, you know, externalities | Mar 05 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | the invisible hand is awesome, that extension saved me $1.57 on a spindle of CD-Rs | Mar 05 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | I owe my life to it | Mar 05 22:28 |
| GoForbes28 | Which economists acknowledge require intervention to corrent | Mar 05 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | oh, right | Mar 05 22:28 |
| GoForbes28 | *corrent | Mar 05 22:28 |
| GoForbes28 | What about that spindle? | Mar 05 22:29 |
| GoForbes28 | never mind | Mar 05 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.getinvisiblehand.com/ | Mar 05 22:29 |
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| GoForbes28 | I just realized a possible solution | Mar 05 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 22:30 |
| GoForbes28 | If the Republicans disallow seatbelts and speed limits, then they solve their problems for us! | Mar 05 22:30 |
| GoForbes28 | *our problems | Mar 05 22:31 |
| GoForbes28 | because there won't be many REpublicans left | Mar 05 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | my plan is to take the warning labels off everything and let the world sort itself out | Mar 05 22:31 |
| MinceR | that would be nice | Mar 05 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | warning, coffee is hot | Mar 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | no, coffee is not hot | Mar 05 22:32 |
| MinceR | warning, water is wet | Mar 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | in fat, it's perfectly safe to pour on my balls | Mar 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | see, darwin award | Mar 05 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | not lawsuit | Mar 05 22:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 05 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange + House interview on Manning's abusive conditions http://alturl.com/348mo !wl | Mar 05 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I know it isn't, but it's like a bad/premature April fool's joke. Sad that software companies must grovel for inclusion in #Apple's store. | Mar 05 22:34 | |
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| gnufreex | <DaemonFC> wrap the GPL around it | Mar 05 22:34 |
| gnufreex | <GoForbes28> I bet Microsoft would try to sue for that some how. | Mar 05 22:34 |
| gnufreex | BSD license has no patent grant (implicit or otherwise) so that Babelfish code is useless. If you make something out of it, they can sue you. | Mar 05 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | in reality, huge court fight erupts centered around what exact alleged temperature the alleged coffee was allegedly kept at, if in fact there was such a fast food chain as the alleged McDonalds | Mar 05 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Where were YOU at the time this alleged incident allegedly took place? | Mar 05 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I allege that my client had no reasonable expectation that the coffee he ordered was hot. Isn't it true you serve ICED coffee as well? Perhaps he figured you were handing him ICED coffee and there was no reason to take a heightened sense of precaution! | Mar 05 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I want the truth! | Mar 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | You can't HANDLE the truth! | Mar 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Did you order the Mocha or the Latte!? | Mar 05 22:38 |
| MinceR | your honor, our iced coffee is dry iced and thus requires similar precautions before consumption. | Mar 05 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Your honor, at this time I would like the court reporter to read into evidence the fast food order on the morning in question. | Mar 05 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Was there, at any time, a preference specified, for hot or iced coffee, or lukewarm even? | Mar 05 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I remind you that you are under oath, sir! | Mar 05 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 05 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh he preferred a real Mac to a wannabe Mac</sarcastic flamebait punchline> 'P | Mar 05 22:41 | |
| MinceR | bah, the oath was about a badly written book of fiction, it doesn't bind me | Mar 05 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | No further questions. These 12 fine upstanding citizens here will be free to gauge how reliable your testimony was in light of this new revelation. | Mar 05 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bastille day in Egypt as storm Secret Service | WLCentral http://alturl.com/gn869 !wl | Mar 05 22:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011-03-05 BASTILLEDAY in #Egypt, Egyptians Storm Secret Service, US Secretary of Defense, Gates En Route; #Amndawala Leaks launches on Facebook. | WL Central .::. Size~: 21.14 KB | Mar 05 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Whenever I have been "sworn in" at court, I've instead taken an affirmation | Mar 05 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | basically just means I state I will tell the truth | Mar 05 22:44 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 05 22:44 |
| MinceR | that's nicer | Mar 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | there's no legal requirement to swear to God in a courtroom | Mar 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, most of them don't actually say the "so help you God" part anyway | Mar 05 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | and there is no bible either | Mar 05 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | so in fact you never state what or to whom you are swearing to tell the truth | Mar 05 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | therefore, it is not a religious test :) | Mar 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if any court in this country actually can make anyone swear to God, I've never heard of it happening | Mar 05 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'm just going to be a combination of every religion there is, omitting the part where I have to do stuff, so I can take the state sanctioned perks of all of them. No photo on my drivers license, get to use peyote, so on so forth. | Mar 05 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be all kinds of fun | Mar 05 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | All animals are equal....some are more equal than others | Mar 05 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Two legs good, four legs better | Mar 05 22:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 05 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | how dare you insult my heritage! what heritage? all of them | Mar 05 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have to know my great great grandmother might have been part black part Czech for all I know | Mar 05 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | there's just nowhere you can go with this | Mar 05 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | back off! | Mar 05 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | *you | Mar 05 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There was one of those pointless stories the "news" was running a couple years ago | Mar 05 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Obama is George W. Bush's 9th cousin | Mar 05 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | got me wondering how many 9th cousins a person has | Mar 05 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Obama and Bush are probably my 9th cousins | Mar 05 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | they share some common genes, that tells us they're both human, oh look, they both have a Y chromosome too | Mar 05 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | joined at the hip or what? | Mar 05 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 05 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Just give the government some of your DNA, next stop GATTACA | Mar 05 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I won't go to Michigan, you know why? | Mar 05 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Their state law says they can take your DNA just because they arrested you (for anything) | Mar 05 22:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Assange + House interview on Manning's abusive conditions http://www.itv.com/news/wikileaks-soldier-t... http://bit.ly/e2Ja7D | Mar 05 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Bastille day in Egypt as storm Secret Service | WLCentral http://wlcentral.org.nyud.net/node/1429 http://bit.ly/eNeDGt | Mar 05 22:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there needs to be a fork of #Clonezilla called #Clonezookie if only for the name #Godzilla #Godzookie #70's #kidscartoons | Mar 05 23:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] On strictly technical merit, I always liked #Opera (a lot, actually); too bad it's proprietary. | Mar 05 23:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New cables from Milan, Sao Paulo, Rio http://alturl.com/xz42a !wl | Mar 05 23:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] مكتب وزير الداخلية بمبني أمن الدولة - مدينة نصر http://alturl.com/9cdoo !wl | Mar 05 23:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Here's the deal. #Facebook, #Diaspora, #Twitter, #Identica, #Tumblr: it doesn't matter. No way to see who your visitors are. All scams | Mar 05 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why do people fall for this. It's not technical knowledge it's common sense. I despair | Mar 05 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Better #brain wiring linked to family #genes http://ur1.ca/3e9ah | Mar 05 23:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK that was ranting, but someone I know, who should have known better fell for that Twitter scam :( | Mar 05 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @bruce89: UKIP wants to be Britain's 3rd party. God help us < I really hope it never comes to pass | Mar 05 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ellsberg & Assange talk (video, 90 minutes) at Frontline http://is.gd/8xJGzi !wl | Mar 05 23:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #MichaelMoore will post entire speech—America Is NOT Broke—on his site soon. See #MilwaukeeJournal story http://ur1.ca/3e9dr | Mar 05 23:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] In an #Alberta town, parents fight for a #secular #education http://ur1.ca/3e9fn | Mar 05 23:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @lamm In an #Alberta town, parents fight for a #secular #education http://ur1.ca/3e9fn | Mar 05 23:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jospoortvliet: If you have issues with flash 10.2 on !linux check my blog for a (possible) solution http://bit.ly/gFpZf4 | Mar 05 23:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jospoortvliet: If you have issues with flash 10.2 on #linux check my blog for a (possible) solution http://bit.ly/gFpZf4 | Mar 05 23:57 | |
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