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| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | Mar 07 05:07 |
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| schestowitz | > | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > I took the liberty to ask Dr. Moody permission to translante his: | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/03/more-fun-with-anti-open-source-fud/index.htm | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 07 05:07 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: More Fun with Anti-Open Source FUD - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 68.28 KB | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > He said he wouldn't mind but he had to consult it with ComputerWorldUK editor. | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > Please can you drop a line to these gentlemen (editor) whom Dr. Moody | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > is talking about? | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you very much | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Glyn and I are like friends, but it's his boss at IDG that's the problem; I don't know the guy and IDG has little reason to like me given what I write about them. ;-) | Mar 07 05:07 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Glyn will get the clearance. | Mar 07 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Depends. schestowitz | Mar 07 05:40 |
| schestowitz | On what? | Mar 07 05:40 |
| schestowitz | THe content/ | Mar 07 05:40 |
| oiaohm | IDG might try lets be friendly in the hope of getting nicer treatment in future. schestowitz | Mar 07 05:40 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but not quickly enough | Mar 07 05:41 |
| schestowitz | They have a disruption | Mar 07 05:41 |
| schestowitz | They need to be nice to what's present | Mar 07 05:41 |
| schestowitz | e.g. Apple, Windows | Mar 07 05:41 |
| schestowitz | While preparing to changes | Mar 07 05:41 |
| oiaohm | The world is changing on them. | Mar 07 05:42 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it does | Mar 07 05:44 |
| schestowitz | How are they doing financially? I never checked... | Mar 07 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Many publishers are dying, I doubt they're the exception because they stopped 'info'World print edition some years back | Mar 07 05:44 |
| oiaohm | http://ur1.ca/3erna This 5 things apple does better. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 5 Things OS X Does Better than Linux | Pétur Ingi Egilsson .::. Size~: 52.16 KB | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | We should not fight these things. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Not with more features . | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | systemd is based of the way Apple does there startup of services. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | With the goal of fixing up the issue. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | And extending and improving on. | Mar 07 05:46 |
| schestowitz | OS X has better marketing, brand | Mar 07 05:48 |
| oiaohm | Note systemd takes apples design and improves it. | Mar 07 05:54 |
| oiaohm | systemd can handle services trying to release processes off into no ware. | Mar 07 05:55 |
| oiaohm | where apple launchd cannot. | Mar 07 05:55 |
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| MinceR | that article is just so much bullshit, right from item 1 | Mar 07 06:38 |
| oiaohm | I agree item 1 there has no logic. | Mar 07 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Most of the Linux people like the customise interface. | Mar 07 06:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66777038 http://identi.ca/notice/66870104 | Mar 13 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Saturday, 12-Mar-11 02:45:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Glad to see you're settled and on-line. A c.o.l.advocacy poster had 5 min. #Linux ISO download - fast in EU, US we have slow. | Mar 13 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 08:35:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz HP's ... #Linux... #WebOS on ... its #Windows... PCs ... as an alt... distro ... could alienate #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3gqqb | Mar 13 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: HP's desktop plans for WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.05 KB | Mar 13 11:49 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/statuses/46189187547934720 | Mar 13 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot | @_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz I predicted what HP is doing two years ago, but I thought that Dell would be first to move. | Mar 13 12:20 |
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| schestowitz | Nothing broke while moving between houses, but I need one new monitor. Which brand does *not*n break after 2 years. My luck with monitors is very bad... | Mar 13 15:59 |
| schestowitz | I hope my dad got his monitors without issue... I gave him all those which work | Mar 13 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nathant1985/status/47057384060895232 | Mar 14 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @nathant1985: @boycottnovell that is possibly the worst thing i've ever read!!! #wp7 | Mar 14 06:49 |
| schestowitz | Turfers? | Mar 14 06:49 |
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| schestowitz | > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:33:07 -0400 | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > From: scott williams <swims@umich.edu> | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > To: xxxxx | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Digital Accessibility Expo, Chicago, April 11, 2011 | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > "The Digital Accessibility Expo focuses on improving the access to | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > digital materials both for all people including those with disabilities. | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Information and instructional materials that are developed with | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > accessibility in mind are universally designed for everyone to access." | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > More info: http://goo.gl/Bo2DW | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- | Mar 15 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: University of Illinois at Chicago Disability Resource Center | 2011 UIC Digital Accessibility Expo .::. Size~: 13.6 KB | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:07:28 +0100 | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > From: Marco Fioretti <mfioretti@nexaima.net> | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > To: xxxxx | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Looking for case studies for Digital Citizens online course | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > next month I'll start with a new project, a Digital Citizens Basics | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > online course open to everybody. | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://mfioretti.com/node/129 | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Online course: Digital Citizens Basics | mfioretti.com .::. Size~: 16.86 KB | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > One of the advantages of an online course is the possibility to | Mar 15 19:43 |
| schestowitz | > present, in each edition, always new, up to date examples for each | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > topic, from every part of the world. I already have LOTS of examples | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > for all the topics of the course, but surely I have missed, or will | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > miss in the future, something that may be worthwhile to discuss with | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > my students. | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > Online Course for Digital Citizens, because your rights depend on | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | > how software is used *around* you: http://mfioretti.com/node/129 | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about that bulletin board thingie | Mar 15 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Online course: Digital Citizens Basics | mfioretti.com .::. Size~: 16.86 KB | Mar 15 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Someone asked me to spread those | Mar 15 19:44 |
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| schestowitz | > /I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > version10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > me little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > (details in my personal blog). / | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > I played around with Fedora this afternoon. I'm surprised how nice it | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > is, but today I didn't do anything too complex. Tomorrow I'd like to | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > try doing some artwork. | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > I've never tried Mint with Gnome. I think that's because I've wanted to | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > learn more about KDE. It's still a little frustrating, but I can | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > probably get used to it. | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > which promotes Microsoft though. I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it./ | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure there must be some nice people that work on Gnome, but so far | Mar 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > I've not been impressed with any of the Gnome people I've interacted | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > with. I hope they are just the minority, but they are certainly rude | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > and noisy. | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > /Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > important. We both believe in second chances. :-)/ | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I hope they can get through the next couple of releases okay. It | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > does look challenging right now, but I like that they are willing to | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > stand their ground and keep going. | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > I certainly think Mark has a lot to learn, but I also think he deserves | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > the freedom to make mistakes and grow from the experience. I really | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > don't believe there's a lot of in-fighting, but it does seem there's an | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > element that's determined to create a false sense of discord at every | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > opportunity. | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > And, as the end of every release cycle approaches, the noise from | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > troublemakers gets louder and louder on the forums. It's stupid and | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > annoying. There are also a handful of forum moderators that are part of | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > the problem (one in particular I dislike immensely, and he dislikes | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > me...we mostly just avoid each other now). But on the whole, the | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | > volunteers on UF are amazingly kind and patient and helpful. | Mar 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz | [...] | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > Hmmm, she shouldn't have judged you by someone else's behavior. That | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > just seems unfair. The jogger-girl sounds like she might be a far more | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > interesting friend. It sounds like a good neighborhood for meeting new | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > people, I'm glad the move has been a good one for you. | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > /I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > version10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > me little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development | Mar 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz | > (details in my personal blog). / | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > I played around with Fedora this afternoon. I'm surprised how nice it | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > is, but today I didn't do anything too complex. Tomorrow I'd like to | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > try doing some artwork. | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > I've never tried Mint with Gnome. I think that's because I've wanted to | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > learn more about KDE. It's still a little frustrating, but I can | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > probably get used to it. | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > which promotes Microsoft though. I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it./ | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure there must be some nice people that work on Gnome, but so far | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > I've not been impressed with any of the Gnome people I've interacted | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > with. I hope they are just the minority, but they are certainly rude | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > and noisy. | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > /Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > important. We both believe in second chances. :-)/ | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I hope they can get through the next couple of releases okay. It | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > does look challenging right now, but I like that they are willing to | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > stand their ground and keep going. | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > I certainly think Mark has a lot to learn, but I also think he deserves | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > the freedom to make mistakes and grow from the experience. I really | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > don't believe there's a lot of in-fighting, but it does seem there's an | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > element that's determined to create a false sense of discord at every | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > opportunity. | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > And, as the end of every release cycle approaches, the noise from | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > troublemakers gets louder and louder on the forums. It's stupid and | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > annoying. There are also a handful of forum moderators that are part of | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > the problem (one in particular I dislike immensely, and he dislikes | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > me...we mostly just avoid each other now). But on the whole, the | Mar 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz | > volunteers on UF are amazingly kind and patient and helpful. | Mar 16 08:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/status/47824103327014912 | Mar 16 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot | @_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ? | Mar 16 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/interoperabilitatsprobleme-bei-der-kuhlung-vom-reaktor-fukushima/ | Mar 16 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Interoperabilitätsprobleme bei der Kühlung vom Reaktor Fukushima « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 27.23 KB | Mar 16 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Interp... | Mar 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear stuff | Mar 16 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agustinfontaine/statuses/48593191724789760 | Mar 18 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agustinfontaine: #FF para @schestowitz que compartió idea de #KDE plasma netbook y para @hipermedula que se lanzó con concurso #twitteratura | Mar 18 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agustinfontaine/statuses/48593191724789760 | Mar 18 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agustinfontaine: #FF para @schestowitz que compartió idea de #KDE plasma netbook y para @hipermedula que se lanzó con concurso #twitteratura | Mar 18 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/android-violates-linux-license-experts-claim-869429/ http://www.itproportal.com/2011/03/18/google-android-violates-linux-license-attorney-says/ new FUD? | Mar 18 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android violates Linux license, experts claim .::. Size~: 42.92 KB | Mar 18 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Google's Android Violates Linux License, Attorney Says | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 35.58 KB | Mar 18 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I heard it's BS | Mar 18 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Didn't read into it, not yet.... | Mar 18 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: your blog is inactive | Mar 19 11:14 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: your blog is inactive | Mar 19 11:14 |
| schestowitz | No battles in the battleground | Mar 19 11:15 |
| schestowitz | No battles in the battleground | Mar 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Mar 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Mar 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I am horid for writing about myself. | Mar 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | I am horid for writing about myself. | Mar 19 11:15 |
| oiaohm | There have been some more important battles. I have done recently in the correct blogs and areas. | Mar 19 11:19 |
| oiaohm | There have been some more important battles. I have done recently in the correct blogs and areas. | Mar 19 11:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: In a few weeks one of my recent battles in the right place might have some interesting results. Dispute with some of the gnome higher ups over to break the idea that a standard on freedesktop they don't support is basically vetoed. | Mar 19 11:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: In a few weeks one of my recent battles in the right place might have some interesting results. Dispute with some of the gnome higher ups over to break the idea that a standard on freedesktop they don't support is basically vetoed. | Mar 19 11:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Looks like have got that myth broken. | Mar 19 11:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Looks like have got that myth broken. | Mar 19 11:24 |
| schestowitz | johttp://bethesignal.org/blog/2011/03/15/timeline-gnome-user-experience-hackfest-2008/ | Mar 19 11:28 |
| schestowitz | johttp://bethesignal.org/blog/2011/03/15/timeline-gnome-user-experience-hackfest-2008/ | Mar 19 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Timeline: The Greatest Show on Earth | Be the signal .::. Size~: 334.77 KB | Mar 19 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Timeline: The Greatest Show on Earth | Be the signal .::. Size~: 334.77 KB | Mar 19 11:28 |
| schestowitz | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/in-praise-of-debian-5/ | Mar 19 11:36 |
| schestowitz | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/in-praise-of-debian-5/ | Mar 19 11:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: In praise of Debian 5 « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 47.27 KB | Mar 19 11:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: In praise of Debian 5 « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 47.27 KB | Mar 19 11:36 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ou don't quite battle | Mar 19 11:41 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ou don't quite battle | Mar 19 11:41 |
| schestowitz | *you | Mar 19 11:41 |
| schestowitz | *you | Mar 19 11:41 |
| oiaohm | You have to also remember I am a chess player. | Mar 19 11:42 |
| oiaohm | You have to also remember I am a chess player. | Mar 19 11:42 |
| schestowitz | good one? | Mar 19 11:44 |
| schestowitz | good one? | Mar 19 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Good enough to be able to beat most players. Grand masters give me trouble. | Mar 19 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Good enough to be able to beat most players. Grand masters give me trouble. | Mar 19 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Still is the issue of lot of people blaming Linux kernel project without due cause. | Mar 19 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Still is the issue of lot of people blaming Linux kernel project without due cause. | Mar 19 11:48 |
| oiaohm | That might be worth while to write something up in the battleground. | Mar 19 11:48 |
| oiaohm | That might be worth while to write something up in the battleground. | Mar 19 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72034.html | Mar 19 14:26 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72034.html | Mar 19 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-5-0-to-Launch-16-Weeks-after-4-0-Firefox-6-0-Just-6-Weeks-after-5-0-190230.shtml | Mar 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-5-0-to-Launch-16-Weeks-after-4-0-Firefox-6-0-Just-6-Weeks-after-5-0-190230.shtml | Mar 19 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 5.0 to Launch 16 Weeks after 4.0, Firefox 6.0 Just 6 Weeks after 5.0 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.94 KB | Mar 19 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 5.0 to Launch 16 Weeks after 4.0, Firefox 6.0 Just 6 Weeks after 5.0 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.94 KB | Mar 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/03/15/Twitter-Honey-Trap | Mar 19 17:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/03/15/Twitter-Honey-Trap | Mar 19 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Accidental Twitter Honeypot .::. Size~: 6.6 KB | Mar 19 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Accidental Twitter Honeypot .::. Size~: 6.6 KB | Mar 19 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/46244850508640256 | Mar 20 10:30 |
| TechrightsBot | @zoobab: @martinvars Anybody from FON going to the Wireless Battle Mesh in Barcelona next week? | Mar 20 10:30 |
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| schestowitz | I got my permanent connection back and I'm on identi.ca again. | Mar 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > is the weekend & relax for a couple of days | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food & | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > fun. So please enjoy yourself also. | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | > Have a nice weekend | Mar 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > is the weekend & relax for a couple of days | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food & | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > fun. So please enjoy yourself also. | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | > Have a nice weekend | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | oops | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | "My pleasure . How are you ? Still problems with BT, affecting Techrights ?" | Mar 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully, they escalated to execs after I blogged about it and then fixed it very quickly. | Mar 29 09:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518413 | Mar 29 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:24:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Good to hear that BT succeed in spite of themselves. Bell Canada was much the same before they had competition. | Mar 29 13:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518511 | Mar 29 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:25:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not that they have much competition, but allowing the cable nets to deliver phone service woke Bell up about customer service. | Mar 29 13:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518787 | Mar 29 13:35 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 29 13:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:27:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Maybe they are trying to get even for my persistent 'Microsoft Death Watch' articles. Time for another. #microsoftdeathwatch | Mar 29 13:35 |
| schestowitz | #BT customer support did not resolve the problem, it was eventually high management that did all the work | Mar 29 13:36 |
| MinceR | it wasn't high management whipping customer support to make customer support do the work? | Mar 29 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BTCare/status/52739426429845504 | Mar 29 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot | @BTCare: @schestowitz Sorry you had problems, good to see you got sorted in the end. If you need help in future feel free to tweet anytime | Mar 29 15:39 |
| schestowitz | It's not even over yet, we'll see if they issue compensation if promised and ensure I don't pay for calls someone else made | Mar 29 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/goldenscepter/statuses/52913719168077824 | Mar 30 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot | @GoldenScepter: Instead, they let their ruffians harass the riffraff, dogging the Roy Schestowitz, and dissing the "GNU-Father", rather than paying tribute. | Mar 30 07:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/ | Mar 30 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux Today - Linux News On Internet Time. .::. Size~: 95.07 KB | Mar 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ^^ do you know what goes on there? | Mar 30 14:37 |
| oiaohm | I only visit the site. | Mar 30 14:38 |
| oiaohm | But these days it mostly looks like site scraping. schestowitz | Mar 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/03/29/ticked-off-vent/ | Mar 30 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: no editorials | Mar 30 14:43 |
| schestowitz | and no direct links in homepage, so two clicks needed | Mar 30 14:43 |
| schestowitz | but they fired the editor for reasons I don't know | Mar 30 14:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: maybe with a new editor we will see articals again. | Mar 30 14:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: a long time ago linuxtoday use to have a state of a union thing of open source that was quite nice. | Mar 30 14:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, or those weekly op eds | Mar 30 14:52 |
| schestowitz | As I explaIned to a mate in the car yesterday, Linux Today fails to evolve | Mar 30 14:52 |
| schestowitz | It's still the same way it has been for a long time | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Same with Groklaw | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz | They tried a twitter account but hardly with passion | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz | So they end up like blogs, which fewer people read directly because they go to some "social networks" - whatever that means | Mar 30 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I tried to steer away from blog/comments and also reached out to people in networks where we can debate issues | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz | The news stagnation (news site) is another problem | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Some of it gets swapped by PR/ghostwriting | Mar 30 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks just dumps lots of raw docs with redacted parts | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Because real investigative journalism died | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Back in the days some 'news' sites with reputation did Linux distros reviews | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz | They don't anymore | Mar 30 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes you have the tech news sites covering very few | Mar 30 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Its the importance of them. | Mar 30 14:56 |
| oiaohm | More and more Linux world is not need them | Mar 30 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Because more and more main stream press is doing the reviews and so on. | Mar 30 14:56 |
| abeNd-org | who has time to even do that anymore, not to mention there is so much to cover it would take weeks to do a review any real justice | Mar 30 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Linux is basically ceasing to be a Fringe area OS. | Mar 30 14:57 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: Really all reviews of Distributions/OS through out history have never been that completely. | Mar 30 14:57 |
| oiaohm | done. | Mar 30 14:58 |
| abeNd-org | id like to do one on sles10sp4 that was recently released, not that ill ever have the time... | Mar 30 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Really I am waiting for the day when tom hardware and others start doing it as mainstream. | Mar 30 15:03 |
| oiaohm | then we know Linux has fully made it. | Mar 30 15:03 |
| abeNd-org | they probably wont | Mar 30 15:05 |
| abeNd-org | too many distros, & if you chose any 1 to review first, youll be flamed by zealots until the end of time | Mar 30 15:06 |
| abeNd-org | ^supporters of other distros | Mar 30 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough that is not exactly true. | Mar 30 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Now of the review is 100 percent glowing listing no down sides yes you get flamed to hell by other distribution supporters. | Mar 30 15:09 |
| oiaohm | but no worse than doing a glowing windows review. | Mar 30 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Really its some of the myth's about how savage the open source world is a problem. abeNd-org | Mar 30 15:10 |
| abeNd-org | myths? sorry, I have been to linux user groups in mi/ga/tx, they really do represent the unwashed masses | Mar 30 15:16 |
| abeNd-org | and angry as all get out | Mar 30 15:16 |
| oiaohm | And you have not been in a pack of Apple fans or MS fans after a bad review. | Mar 30 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Ie bad as too good for the other side. | Mar 30 15:18 |
| oiaohm | No matter what screw the review up someone is going to come out and attempt to eat you alive. | Mar 30 15:19 |
| abeNd-org | one of my (least) favorite experiences was just after novl bought suse, all of them kept railing about how suse was dead & not usable. funny thing is the presentation was on the latest version of suse & using evolution (which i think novl owned at that time too). in the post meeting conversations with the people who ran the group they were continuing to bash novl, so i said to them that opensource obviously did not equal open m | Mar 30 15:19 |
| oiaohm | Ie Linux is not unique in this regard. | Mar 30 15:19 |
| abeNd-org | oh ive been to ms/novl/cisco/vmware/etc user groups as well, the folks at the linux ones were by far the worst in many ways | Mar 30 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Really. | Mar 30 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Problem is I have seen it in person. | Mar 30 15:20 |
| abeNd-org | i will have to say the cisco folks win in biggest jerk category, but overall the linux user group folks were the worst | Mar 30 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Look closer. | Mar 30 15:21 |
| oiaohm | How many of the trouble makers in the Linux camp are not Linux. | Mar 30 15:21 |
| abeNd-org | uhh, no, most of those linux user group folks stink to high heaven, i don't want to look any closer to them than i have to | Mar 30 15:21 |
| abeNd-org | think "comic book guy" from the simpsons & you nail it on the head to cover most of them | Mar 30 15:22 |
| oiaohm | If you look closer there are a lot of MS and Apple trouble makers in there. | Mar 30 15:22 |
| abeNd-org | no, no one had starbucks with them in the morning, so im pretty sure there were no apple folks there | Mar 30 15:23 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Mar 30 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Name the 2 most common laptops to see at a Linux conf. | Mar 30 15:23 |
| abeNd-org | dells mostly from what ive seen | Mar 30 15:24 |
| abeNd-org | specific models i dont know | Mar 30 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Really dell have big branding on them. | Mar 30 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Thinkpads are the most common. Because they simply just work. | Mar 30 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Next strangely enough is normally apple laptops. | Mar 30 15:25 |
| oiaohm | But most of the apple laptops are covered in that many stickers its not funny. | Mar 30 15:26 |
| abeNd-org | LOL | Mar 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | i guess it helps hide the ugly | Mar 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 15:27 |
| abeNd-org | its the saying per cars on the road, the more bumper stickers the more dangerous the driver | Mar 30 15:27 |
| oiaohm | Dell laptops have a habit of being sticker less at a conf. | Mar 30 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Most people know if they have every tried putting stickers on most Dell models. | Mar 30 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Ie the coating glue of most stickers does not want to stick. | Mar 30 15:28 |
| MinceR | dHells don't last long enough to be worth wasting a sticker on? :> | Mar 30 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Upper models of dell do last with solid internal case. MinceR | Mar 30 15:29 |
| oiaohm | But anti finger print coating basically dooms stickers. | Mar 30 15:29 |
| abeNd-org | the latitude/precision laptops are fine, it is the vostro/inspiron that are the total junk | Mar 30 15:30 |
| MinceR | the "solid" internal case won't help the hinges that are made of excrement. | Mar 30 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Yes the cheaper models that you can get stickers to stick of dell you would not bother attempting. MinceR | Mar 30 15:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the good ones have sold metal hinges as well. | Mar 30 15:30 |
| oiaohm | The casing makes quite a good hammer in fact. | Mar 30 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Without damaging it. | Mar 30 15:30 |
| MinceR | another thing the "solid" internal case doesn't help is the touchpad | Mar 30 15:31 |
| MinceR | and the trackpad knockoff | Mar 30 15:31 |
| abeNd-org | i deal with a lot of dell hardware between all the clients ive delt with over the yrs, vostro/inspiron stuff you might as well throw away as soon as you get it, the latitudes are fine, & the precision are just fine | Mar 30 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Upper models use a different brand track/touchpad | Mar 30 15:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Yes I have the annoying job of striping them down from time to time for parts. | Mar 30 15:32 |
| abeNd-org | MinceR: im playing with a bunch of e6510s right now, they have the mouse nub in the keyboard & trackpad, whats the specific problem with them | Mar 30 15:32 |
| MinceR | abeNd-org: i've used a company-owned Latitude E6400 for almost a year now. the trackpoint-knockoff tends to keep crawling even if i let go | Mar 30 15:32 |
| oiaohm | mouse nub. Those have thinkpad tech. | Mar 30 15:32 |
| MinceR | the buttons have become nearly unresponsive | Mar 30 15:32 |
| MinceR | sometimes i have to hit it hard to click | Mar 30 15:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: afaik they don't | Mar 30 15:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You have non Thinkpad tech. | Mar 30 15:33 |
| MinceR | the genuine trackpoint on my ThinkPad does work reliably | Mar 30 15:33 |
| MinceR | (and so do the buttons) | Mar 30 15:33 |
| oiaohm | Does yours have the mouse nub? MinceR | Mar 30 15:33 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Mar 30 15:34 |
| abeNd-org | mincer so far so good with these just-unboxed e6510s | Mar 30 15:34 |
| oiaohm | The stick threw the keyboad. MinceR | Mar 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: this Latitude does have one. | Mar 30 15:34 |
| oiaohm | interesting what year. MinceR | Mar 30 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Please don't say 2006 | Mar 30 15:34 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 30 15:35 |
| oiaohm | I remember having to fix 2006 thinkpads due to a dud chip. | Mar 30 15:35 |
| MinceR | i suspect it's 2010 or maybe 2009 | Mar 30 15:35 |
| oiaohm | And latitudes | Mar 30 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully its not another bad batch of them. | Mar 30 15:35 |
| MinceR | the thinkpad is from 2009 | Mar 30 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Even in thinkpads you do get the odd dud. MinceR | Mar 30 15:36 |
| oiaohm | Thinkpad is simple to get it switched over and replaced then dell. | Mar 30 15:36 |
| abeNd-org | I remember going through a bunch of RMAs with the T20 series back in the day | Mar 30 15:39 |
| abeNd-org | i need to get ahold of a bunch of cheap docking stations for these e6510s .. meh | Mar 30 15:47 |
| abeNd-org | shesh, ebay is more than retail these days...double meh | Mar 30 15:47 |
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| abeNd-org | odd, gparted isnt localized in korean, you would think they would localize as many linux things as they can to get ms out of that country | Mar 30 16:40 |
| MinceR | if they wanted to, that is | Mar 30 16:41 |
| abeNd-org | looks like it is localized in 35 other languages, figured korean would be one :) | Mar 30 16:41 |
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| abeNd-org | HP's touchpads on their "compaq consumer" models suck ass | Mar 31 00:55 |
| abeNd-org | of course this laptop im running restore on is windows vista home basic... | Mar 31 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174063434186752 http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174310411579393 http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174887984013312 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53421920225472512 | Mar 31 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents Did you notice the way China dealt with US IP in cars http://bit.ly/eaMsXf cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: China May Force Foreign Automakers to Share EV Secrets and Could Take Ownership Stake in GM .::. Size~: 407.88 KB | Mar 31 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents And I predict the USPO will always have to surrender to the Chinese market cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents The USPO is taking the piss out of the ROTW and there's only so long they'll get away with that cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In my new post http://bit.ly/huzmB6 you can find examples of OSI and Mozilla lawyers promoting and suing over software patents. | Mar 31 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3RfOXCMLzc&feature=relmfu | Apr 01 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/53831118033657856 | Apr 01 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @jonobacon: @schestowitz thanking Microsoft for supporting a Free Culture project and advertising Win7 are not the same thing. | Apr 01 20:21 |
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| gnufreex | what "Free Culture" project? | Apr 01 20:31 |
| gnufreex | Maybe "Shared Source" ? | Apr 01 20:31 |
| MinceR | probably SeveredFilth, the worlds one and only vista7 band | Apr 01 20:32 |
| MinceR | s/ds/d's/ | Apr 01 20:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he's finding excuses now | Apr 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz | His actions fed Microsoft trolls | Apr 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz | He advertises Windows and was bamboozled by Microsoft | Apr 01 20:34 |
| gnufreex | Schestowitz: He already said he has no problem with Microsfot ruining FOSS as long as they are polite. | Apr 01 20:35 |
| MinceR | i think that's not the problem he has | Apr 01 20:35 |
| MinceR | but rather that it was pointed out | Apr 01 20:35 |
| MinceR | and that it was just another piece on the pile of ways in which canonical supports the m$ agenda | Apr 01 20:35 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Open RESPECK | Apr 01 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Until Microsoft sues Canonical | Apr 01 20:35 |
| MinceR | OnesidedRespect | Apr 01 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Then we'll see what he says... | Apr 01 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft already taxes Canonical [throught MPEG_LALA] | Apr 01 20:36 |
| schestowitz | *through | Apr 01 20:36 |
| schestowitz | He came to iRC after I had poinged him about Vista 7 | Apr 01 20:37 |
| gnufreex | <schestowitz> Until Microsoft sues Canonical | Apr 01 20:37 |
| gnufreex | If they do it politely, then it is fine with their CoC. | Apr 01 20:37 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't mean to do such silly things, I think I can see how he was bamboozled by the Vole there | Apr 01 20:37 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: LOL | Apr 01 20:37 |
| MinceR | but only if m$ does it | Apr 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz | We, Microsoft, open-respectfully asserting our patent rights | Apr 01 20:38 |
| MinceR | everyone else will be "peanut gallery" | Apr 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz | !google "peanut gallery" | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - Peanut gallery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_gallery | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - Affordable Child Care | The Peanut Gallery | http://www.peanutgallerychildcare.com/ | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - peanut gallery - definition of peanut gallery by the Free Online ... | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/peanut%2Bgallery | Apr 01 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [4] - World Wide Words: Peanut gallery | http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pea1.htm | Apr 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70215366 http://identi.ca/notice/70213517 | Apr 01 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 17:27:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hi there Mr. Schestowitz, TR seems to be down. Can't access it. | Apr 01 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 16:58:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hi There Mr. Schestowitz, I'd like to ask you if you have anything about criticism of the technical side of winblow$ $even ? | Apr 01 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 has the same drawbacks as XP | Apr 01 21:18 |
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| TechrightsBot | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 02-Apr-11 07:37:45 UTC - Identi.ca: News About OpenSUSE 11.4, Possibly the Last #OpenSUSE Release http://ur1.ca/3qfus #novell #suse | Apr 02 08:55 |
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| schestowitz | I've just busted two speakers but playing music too loudly on them :-) those speakers were only days old.. | Apr 02 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/54449888175464448 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/54450074234785792 | Apr 03 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I guess the number of posts is up to the authors of the respective blogs. Dana Blankenhorn may be a more prolific writer. | Apr 03 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: And when Dana ran that blog, you didn't trust him because he met with me in person (like another, unnamed, ZDNet blogger) | Apr 03 09:25 |
| schestowitz | "I was hoping to get your attachment via skype as E-mail seems to be filtering them (beyond my control)." | Apr 03 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Stupid e-mail | Apr 03 09:27 |
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| abeNd-org | why not share via dropbox? no filtering there, except your own antivirus :) | Apr 03 16:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe some people do that or will do that when other medium types get jammed | Apr 03 16:57 |
| schestowitz | IIRC a service like dropbox was threatened by MAFIAA recently | Apr 03 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcesteves/status/55158721340387328 | Apr 05 08:03 |
| TechrightsBot | @jmcesteves: But #EU #securocrats will go on scaring & lying: RT @RuiSeabra ♺ @schestowitz: Data retention rejected by Czechs http://j.mp/fieTL1 #privacy | Apr 05 08:03 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: Open Rights Group | Data retention rejected by Czechs .::. Size~: 14.43 KB | Apr 05 08:03 |
| schestowitz | "Radu Georgescu, CEO of GECAD (big Romanian IT GROUP), on WP7  http://tinyurl.com/673e6n7 " | Apr 05 08:04 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | You are more concerned than you ought to be, in my humble opinion. Earlier today a friend and I were trying to kill some time on the Internet and he was eager to just google his own name, then he tried mine. He did scroll through the pages to reveal some libel, but as he clicked on it he found what only seemed like some rogue forums with obscenely-, crudely-written text which is impossible to believe. More so than Wikipedia, people | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | are encouraged to distrusted what they randomly find somewhere on the Web, unless it is 'in print'. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | The trolls play like kids. They are also viewed by outsiders like a bunch of kids. They have no provenance. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Dear [...], | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > I'm very sorry this has happened to you, but I think this is the goal of | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > the trolls, and of course they are completely unscrupulous. I hadn't | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > looked [...] for several months and when I came back I noticed that | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > there were now regular smears against [...] Words don't exist | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > to express my disgust at that group of people, from DFS to flatfish to | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Clogwog to Ezekiel. I also noticed the good job that Homer and Richard | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Rasker are doing. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > I think one reason I stopped posting very much is that I don't want to | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > get smeared like that. Of course it means I've given in to them. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Over time there may arise some legal or other procedures for dealing | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > with trolls. In the meantime, Google isn't helping at all. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > Good luck, you're doing the right thing. I wouldn't blame you if you | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > wanted to back out of the whole mess that is cola. It would be better | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > if the whole operation could be shut down, imo. | Apr 05 23:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | If sincere activity in other sites is more recent than libel from years ago, it will, in due time, appear prominently coupled with the said name. Forums links age and break after some years because nobody properly looks after that. | Apr 06 08:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 08:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 08:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz If you make a false claim about inside information when the info was actually on the Web, you must correct it. I insist. | Apr 06 08:29 |
| schestowitz | It's pointers to it that count, see O'Garagate for details | Apr 06 08:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535156 | Apr 06 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:38:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz I hope this comes to nothing. Cheers and good luck! | Apr 06 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535307 | Apr 06 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:40:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz Oh, but I remember that chap, that one, he was a pain in the neck. I fear Mr. Patents acts the same way | Apr 06 13:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535431 | Apr 06 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:41:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz But he should disclose his employers. I doubt Real Madrid is paying him to badmouth Linux. | Apr 06 13:45 |
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| schestowitz | "@thistleweb @openbytes do you want to record today?" | Apr 07 21:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/56085886215004161 | Apr 07 21:10 |
| TechrightsBot | @ThistleWeb: @schestowitz @openbytes I'm cool to record | Apr 07 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tlajtoani/status/56216725133340672 | Apr 08 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot | @tlajtoani: @schestowitz I am interested in translating to Spanish some of your Techrights articles. | Apr 08 07:39 |
| schestowitz | That would be very nice, it's best done via e-mail (translations sent to techrights for publishing) | Apr 08 07:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/56362197483401216 | Apr 08 17:56 |
| TechrightsBot | @explodingwalrus: #ff #linux @vigilant @robertahilljr @ubuntuvibes @popey @PopeJimXXIII @RBLevin @jpyper @shawnp0wers @schestowitz | Apr 08 17:56 |
| MinceR | where's the message? :> | Apr 08 19:02 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Apr 08 19:02 |
| schestowitz | I can put it here.. | Apr 08 19:02 |
| MinceR | i mean, it's just a bunch of nicks and hashtags | Apr 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, he's a supporters of techrights for a while... | Apr 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | but nm | Apr 08 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | > well, I was more making a point. I don't really care personally what people | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > say, as long as the facts are not made up and vicious. | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > I was just saying, learn to check things out carefully so going forward you | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > don't end up sued for absolutely nothing that matters. | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > Someone is bound to if you make it so easy. | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | > People sometimes say things about Groklaw because they don't understand | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > that it's not an advocacy site when discussing legal cases, not in the usual | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > sense of advocacy. I tell what I believe is legally true or likely to happen or | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > what would be effective, not necessarily what I personally like. | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > In the Psystar case, I just knew the law and knew Psystar had no chance. In | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > Hotz, he has a slim one, but mostly the law is against him, so that is | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > what I write. But I'm not pushing for anybody. If there is a message | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > it's always | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > the same: don't mess with proprietary software, because you will get burned. | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > Same with patents. I covered the In re Bilskie case very very thouroughly, and | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > the message was always that software and patents need to get a divorce. I've | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > written that since 2003, over and over and over. Where people get confused is | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > that I also think the community is stupid about patents. Until there | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > is a divorce, | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > patents are dangerous, and there is only a limited number of ways to deal with | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > the danger: find prior art (or establish it, as in OIN's process), | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > join a protective | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > entity like OIN, or have a patent arsenal yourself, which is what Google is | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > trying to do. They have the money to do it, and it's a good thing for them to | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > do. They will use it to discourage the stupid patent lawsuits from | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > being brought | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > in the first place. It's why no one much sues IBM over anything where their | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > patent arsenal could be used in counterclaims. | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > There is no other solution currently that I know of. Some misinterpret that | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > to mean I am wishy washy over patents. I'm not. They just don't understand | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > legal stuff enough to see it clearly as it is. | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. I very much appreciate the lengthy clarification. I too try to tell the truth even when I don't like the truth (e.g. about Novell post-Microsoft deal). When it comes to patents, the approach of the FFII very much appeals to me. They too are programmer types, like myself. | Apr 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Just got this comment a minute ago: http://techrights.org/2011/04/08/praise-of-groklaw/#comments | Apr 08 22:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Criticism of Mono Now “Disappearing” | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.86 KB | Apr 08 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | I might resume posting today, stating with translations | Mar 13 04:12 |
| schestowitz | > Glyn answered me this afternoon, his editor agreed. He just asked us | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > to put a link to the original article, which I will under the title. | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > I'll start working on it tomorrow. | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > Have a nice Wednesday | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > Don't worry. Just good to know you're doing fine. Just be careful when | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > unpacking & moving thing. Back pain is no fun & moving is one of the | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > things that triggers it. I hurt myself a few days ago while cleaning | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > the house but I'm doing better now. Take your time & I will catch up | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > as soon as you're back. | Mar 13 04:13 |
| schestowitz | > This is the corrected version per Glyn who asked us to place his | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > twitter & identica footer on the article. Please publish & distribute | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > this one instead of the previous ones I sent you: | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > more-fun-with-anti-FLOSS-fud_ES | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > Please can you paste this at the end of the article: | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > sigue @glynmoody a <a href=http://twitter.com/glynmoody>Twitter</a> o | Mar 13 04:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > <a href=http://identi.ca/glynmoody>identi.ca</a>. | Mar 13 04:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Mar 13 04:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > Glyn asked me to do it, but I already sent it to you. Thank you very much. | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | Wow, I missed so much mails with translations now that I look at it... | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: More Fun with Anti-FLOSS FUD by Glyn Moody | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > I place a link to the original article as I promised to his editor | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > after the title. | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 13 04:15 |
| schestowitz | > I hope you're doing fine. Have a nice Thursday. | Mar 13 04:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66777038 http://identi.ca/notice/66870104 | Mar 13 04:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Saturday, 12-Mar-11 02:45:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Glad to see you're settled and on-line. A c.o.l.advocacy poster had 5 min. #Linux ISO download - fast in EU, US we have slow. | Mar 13 04:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 08:35:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz HP's ... #Linux... #WebOS on ... its #Windows... PCs ... as an alt... distro ... could alienate #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3gqqb | Mar 13 04:49 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: HP's desktop plans for WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.05 KB | Mar 13 04:49 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/statuses/46189187547934720 | Mar 13 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz I predicted what HP is doing two years ago, but I thought that Dell would be first to move. | Mar 13 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | Nothing broke while moving between houses, but I need one new monitor. Which brand does *not*n break after 2 years. My luck with monitors is very bad... | Mar 13 08:59 |
| schestowitz | I hope my dad got his monitors without issue... I gave him all those which work | Mar 13 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nathant1985/status/47057384060895232 | Mar 13 23:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @nathant1985: @boycottnovell that is possibly the worst thing i've ever read!!! #wp7 | Mar 13 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Turfers? | Mar 13 23:49 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Mar 15 08:23 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Thu May 6 16:19:56 2010 | Mar 15 08:23 | |
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| schestowitz | > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:33:07 -0400 | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > From: scott williams <swims@umich.edu> | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > To: xxxxx | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Digital Accessibility Expo, Chicago, April 11, 2011 | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > "The Digital Accessibility Expo focuses on improving the access to | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > digital materials both for all people including those with disabilities. | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Information and instructional materials that are developed with | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > accessibility in mind are universally designed for everyone to access." | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > More info: http://goo.gl/Bo2DW | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- | Mar 15 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: University of Illinois at Chicago Disability Resource Center | 2011 UIC Digital Accessibility Expo .::. Size~: 13.6 KB | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:07:28 +0100 | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > From: Marco Fioretti <mfioretti@nexaima.net> | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > To: xxxxx | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Looking for case studies for Digital Citizens online course | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > next month I'll start with a new project, a Digital Citizens Basics | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > online course open to everybody. | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > http://mfioretti.com/node/129 | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Online course: Digital Citizens Basics | mfioretti.com .::. Size~: 16.86 KB | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > One of the advantages of an online course is the possibility to | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > present, in each edition, always new, up to date examples for each | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > topic, from every part of the world. I already have LOTS of examples | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > for all the topics of the course, but surely I have missed, or will | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > miss in the future, something that may be worthwhile to discuss with | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > my students. | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > [snip] | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > Online Course for Digital Citizens, because your rights depend on | Mar 15 12:43 |
| schestowitz | > how software is used *around* you: http://mfioretti.com/node/129 | Mar 15 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about that bulletin board thingie | Mar 15 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Online course: Digital Citizens Basics | mfioretti.com .::. Size~: 16.86 KB | Mar 15 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Someone asked me to spread those | Mar 15 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | > /I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > version10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > me little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > (details in my personal blog). / | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > I played around with Fedora this afternoon. I'm surprised how nice it | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > is, but today I didn't do anything too complex. Tomorrow I'd like to | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > try doing some artwork. | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > I've never tried Mint with Gnome. I think that's because I've wanted to | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > learn more about KDE. It's still a little frustrating, but I can | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > probably get used to it. | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > which promotes Microsoft though. I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it./ | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure there must be some nice people that work on Gnome, but so far | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > I've not been impressed with any of the Gnome people I've interacted | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > with. I hope they are just the minority, but they are certainly rude | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > and noisy. | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > /Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > important. We both believe in second chances. :-)/ | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I hope they can get through the next couple of releases okay. It | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > does look challenging right now, but I like that they are willing to | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > stand their ground and keep going. | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > I certainly think Mark has a lot to learn, but I also think he deserves | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > the freedom to make mistakes and grow from the experience. I really | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > don't believe there's a lot of in-fighting, but it does seem there's an | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > element that's determined to create a false sense of discord at every | Mar 16 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > opportunity. | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > And, as the end of every release cycle approaches, the noise from | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > troublemakers gets louder and louder on the forums. It's stupid and | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > annoying. There are also a handful of forum moderators that are part of | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > the problem (one in particular I dislike immensely, and he dislikes | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > me...we mostly just avoid each other now). But on the whole, the | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > volunteers on UF are amazingly kind and patient and helpful. | Mar 16 01:09 |
| schestowitz | [...] | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > Hmmm, she shouldn't have judged you by someone else's behavior. That | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > just seems unfair. The jogger-girl sounds like she might be a far more | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > interesting friend. It sounds like a good neighborhood for meeting new | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > people, I'm glad the move has been a good one for you. | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > /I have used both, but with Mint I only used the GNOME side of | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > version10. Actually, I used Fedora 14 in two different places of work; I | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > still work with it daily (today most of the day) and sometimes it makes | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > me little upset because it has bugs. Well, that's fair enough though | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > cause my programs still have bugs, too. I use Fedora for development | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > (details in my personal blog). / | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > I played around with Fedora this afternoon. I'm surprised how nice it | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > is, but today I didn't do anything too complex. Tomorrow I'd like to | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > try doing some artwork. | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > I've never tried Mint with Gnome. I think that's because I've wanted to | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > learn more about KDE. It's still a little frustrating, but I can | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > probably get used to it. | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > /Yes, I have no resentment for GNOME. There's that subculture in GNOME | Mar 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | > which promotes Microsoft though. I've been a promoter of Ubuntu since | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > the start. You can still search the Web for public posts of mine from | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > the dawn of Ubuntu; I was an early adopter and brought some people to it./ | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > I'm sure there must be some nice people that work on Gnome, but so far | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > I've not been impressed with any of the Gnome people I've interacted | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > with. I hope they are just the minority, but they are certainly rude | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > and noisy. | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > /Canonical is taking the heat and rethinking its attitude. That's what's | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > important. We both believe in second chances. :-)/ | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I hope they can get through the next couple of releases okay. It | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > does look challenging right now, but I like that they are willing to | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > stand their ground and keep going. | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > I certainly think Mark has a lot to learn, but I also think he deserves | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > the freedom to make mistakes and grow from the experience. I really | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > don't believe there's a lot of in-fighting, but it does seem there's an | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > element that's determined to create a false sense of discord at every | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > opportunity. | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > And, as the end of every release cycle approaches, the noise from | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > troublemakers gets louder and louder on the forums. It's stupid and | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > annoying. There are also a handful of forum moderators that are part of | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > the problem (one in particular I dislike immensely, and he dislikes | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > me...we mostly just avoid each other now). But on the whole, the | Mar 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | > volunteers on UF are amazingly kind and patient and helpful. | Mar 16 01:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/status/47824103327014912 | Mar 16 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot | @_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ? | Mar 16 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/interoperabilitatsprobleme-bei-der-kuhlung-vom-reaktor-fukushima/ | Mar 16 15:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Interoperabilitätsprobleme bei der Kühlung vom Reaktor Fukushima « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 27.23 KB | Mar 16 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Interp... | Mar 16 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear stuff | Mar 16 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agustinfontaine/statuses/48593191724789760 | Mar 18 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agustinfontaine: #FF para @schestowitz que compartió idea de #KDE plasma netbook y para @hipermedula que se lanzó con concurso #twitteratura | Mar 18 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/agustinfontaine/statuses/48593191724789760 | Mar 18 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agustinfontaine: #FF para @schestowitz que compartió idea de #KDE plasma netbook y para @hipermedula que se lanzó con concurso #twitteratura | Mar 18 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/android-violates-linux-license-experts-claim-869429/ http://www.itproportal.com/2011/03/18/google-android-violates-linux-license-attorney-says/ new FUD? | Mar 18 13:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android violates Linux license, experts claim .::. Size~: 42.92 KB | Mar 18 13:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Google's Android Violates Linux License, Attorney Says | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 35.58 KB | Mar 18 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I heard it's BS | Mar 18 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Didn't read into it, not yet.... | Mar 18 13:24 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: your blog is inactive | Mar 19 04:14 |
| schestowitz | No battles in the battleground | Mar 19 04:15 |
| oiaohm | I know. | Mar 19 04:15 |
| oiaohm | I am horid for writing about myself. | Mar 19 04:15 |
| oiaohm | There have been some more important battles. I have done recently in the correct blogs and areas. | Mar 19 04:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: In a few weeks one of my recent battles in the right place might have some interesting results. Dispute with some of the gnome higher ups over to break the idea that a standard on freedesktop they don't support is basically vetoed. | Mar 19 04:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Looks like have got that myth broken. | Mar 19 04:24 |
| schestowitz | johttp://bethesignal.org/blog/2011/03/15/timeline-gnome-user-experience-hackfest-2008/ | Mar 19 04:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Timeline: The Greatest Show on Earth | Be the signal .::. Size~: 334.77 KB | Mar 19 04:28 |
| schestowitz | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/in-praise-of-debian-5/ | Mar 19 04:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: In praise of Debian 5 « Motho ke motho ka botho .::. Size~: 47.27 KB | Mar 19 04:36 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ou don't quite battle | Mar 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | *you | Mar 19 04:42 |
| oiaohm | You have to also remember I am a chess player. | Mar 19 04:43 |
| schestowitz | good one? | Mar 19 04:44 |
| oiaohm | Good enough to be able to beat most players. Grand masters give me trouble. | Mar 19 04:46 |
| oiaohm | Still is the issue of lot of people blaming Linux kernel project without due cause. | Mar 19 04:48 |
| oiaohm | That might be worth while to write something up in the battleground. | Mar 19 04:48 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72034.html | Mar 19 07:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux News: Community: Waxing Nostalgic About Old-School Linux .::. Size~: 55.73 KB | Mar 19 07:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-5-0-to-Launch-16-Weeks-after-4-0-Firefox-6-0-Just-6-Weeks-after-5-0-190230.shtml | Mar 19 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 5.0 to Launch 16 Weeks after 4.0, Firefox 6.0 Just 6 Weeks after 5.0 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 51.94 KB | Mar 19 09:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/03/15/Twitter-Honey-Trap | Mar 19 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Accidental Twitter Honeypot .::. Size~: 6.6 KB | Mar 19 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/46244850508640256 | Mar 20 03:30 |
| TechrightsBot | @zoobab: @martinvars Anybody from FON going to the Wireless Battle Mesh in Barcelona next week? | Mar 20 03:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/andriusbentkus/statuses/50672904639229952 | Mar 23 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot | @andriusbentkus: @migueldeicaza According to techrights, apple hates freedom. | Mar 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/50671811767189504 | Mar 23 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot | @migueldeicaza: Apple abandoning Samba, is that because of gplv3? | Mar 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/67980722 | Mar 23 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 24-Mar-11 01:08:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Wow, M$ monopoly maint: "we want to keep things simple and tell them always use EMM386, and throw away the competitors" PXE5055 | Mar 23 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | > Plaintiff's Exhibit 5050 is very old and dated but shows | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > what a thriving market there used to be in DBMS software, prior to M$ | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > There is a spot where they admit that not all machines counted as | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | > Windows sales actually run Windows... | Mar 24 13:37 |
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| schestowitz | >> From PXE 3874 it appears most of the good stuff might be redacted | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > We can see though | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > 1. M$ pricing and OEM deals for MS office are KEY to business | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > LibreOffice and any other suite are very severe threats | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > 2. There is not a 1:1 relation between sales/royalties and seats | Mar 25 05:04 |
| schestowitz | > in other words, the market share might be exaggerated | Mar 25 05:04 |
| oiaohm | Volume licensing. schestowitz | Mar 25 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Particularly charity volume licensing. We will just give more away for free to boost numbers. | Mar 25 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's how they inflate so-called "sharepoint users" | Mar 25 05:10 |
| schestowitz | and then yell about it... | Mar 25 05:11 |
| oiaohm | They do it with everything. | Mar 25 05:11 |
| schestowitz | So did simbra | Mar 25 05:11 |
| schestowitz | Except the charity trick | Mar 25 05:12 |
| schestowitz | Today I take stock of what we have and organise some notes about what we did and what we need to do next (almost 50 pages now). I've just created a sort of overview image that helps keep track of the said process, implemented mostly in according with the IJCV reference description. | Mar 25 05:59 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: don't you just hate checking for structure in large documents to make them mint?| | Mar 25 05:59 |
| schestowitz | How's your paper coming along? | Mar 25 05:59 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Could not get my normal english checking person until next week. | Mar 25 06:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Other than that its done. | Mar 25 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Off to bed early for once. | Mar 25 06:27 |
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| schestowitz | I got my permanent connection back and I'm on identi.ca again. | Mar 29 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > is the weekend & relax for a couple of days | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food & | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > fun. So please enjoy yourself also. | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | > Have a nice weekend | Mar 29 01:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > is the weekend & relax for a couple of days | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food & | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > fun. So please enjoy yourself also. | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | > Have a nice weekend | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | oops | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | "My pleasure . How are you ? Still problems with BT, affecting Techrights ?" | Mar 29 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Thankfully, they escalated to execs after I blogged about it and then fixed it very quickly. | Mar 29 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518413 | Mar 29 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:24:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Good to hear that BT succeed in spite of themselves. Bell Canada was much the same before they had competition. | Mar 29 05:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518511 | Mar 29 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:25:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not that they have much competition, but allowing the cable nets to deliver phone service woke Bell up about customer service. | Mar 29 05:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/68518787 | Mar 29 05:35 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 29 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Mar-11 12:27:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Maybe they are trying to get even for my persistent 'Microsoft Death Watch' articles. Time for another. #microsoftdeathwatch | Mar 29 05:35 |
| schestowitz | #BT customer support did not resolve the problem, it was eventually high management that did all the work | Mar 29 05:36 |
| MinceR | it wasn't high management whipping customer support to make customer support do the work? | Mar 29 06:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BTCare/status/52739426429845504 | Mar 29 07:39 |
| TechrightsBot | @BTCare: @schestowitz Sorry you had problems, good to see you got sorted in the end. If you need help in future feel free to tweet anytime | Mar 29 07:39 |
| schestowitz | It's not even over yet, we'll see if they issue compensation if promised and ensure I don't pay for calls someone else made | Mar 29 07:39 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/goldenscepter/statuses/52913719168077824 | Mar 29 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot | @GoldenScepter: Instead, they let their ruffians harass the riffraff, dogging the Roy Schestowitz, and dissing the "GNU-Father", rather than paying tribute. | Mar 29 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/ | Mar 30 06:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux Today - Linux News On Internet Time. .::. Size~: 95.07 KB | Mar 30 06:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ^^ do you know what goes on there? | Mar 30 06:37 |
| oiaohm | I only visit the site. | Mar 30 06:38 |
| oiaohm | But these days it mostly looks like site scraping. schestowitz | Mar 30 06:38 |
| schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/03/29/ticked-off-vent/ | Mar 30 06:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ticked Off? Vent! at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 32.86 KB | Mar 30 06:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no editorials | Mar 30 06:43 |
| schestowitz | and no direct links in homepage, so two clicks needed | Mar 30 06:43 |
| schestowitz | but they fired the editor for reasons I don't know | Mar 30 06:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: maybe with a new editor we will see articals again. | Mar 30 06:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: a long time ago linuxtoday use to have a state of a union thing of open source that was quite nice. | Mar 30 06:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, or those weekly op eds | Mar 30 06:52 |
| schestowitz | As I explaIned to a mate in the car yesterday, Linux Today fails to evolve | Mar 30 06:52 |
| schestowitz | It's still the same way it has been for a long time | Mar 30 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Same with Groklaw | Mar 30 06:52 |
| schestowitz | They tried a twitter account but hardly with passion | Mar 30 06:53 |
| schestowitz | So they end up like blogs, which fewer people read directly because they go to some "social networks" - whatever that means | Mar 30 06:53 |
| schestowitz | I tried to steer away from blog/comments and also reached out to people in networks where we can debate issues | Mar 30 06:54 |
| schestowitz | The news stagnation (news site) is another problem | Mar 30 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Some of it gets swapped by PR/ghostwriting | Mar 30 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks just dumps lots of raw docs with redacted parts | Mar 30 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Because real investigative journalism died | Mar 30 06:55 |
| schestowitz | Back in the days some 'news' sites with reputation did Linux distros reviews | Mar 30 06:55 |
| schestowitz | They don't anymore | Mar 30 06:55 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes you have the tech news sites covering very few | Mar 30 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Its the importance of them. | Mar 30 06:56 |
| oiaohm | More and more Linux world is not need them | Mar 30 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Because more and more main stream press is doing the reviews and so on. | Mar 30 06:56 |
| abeNd-org | who has time to even do that anymore, not to mention there is so much to cover it would take weeks to do a review any real justice | Mar 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Linux is basically ceasing to be a Fringe area OS. | Mar 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: Really all reviews of Distributions/OS through out history have never been that completely. | Mar 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | done. | Mar 30 06:57 |
| abeNd-org | id like to do one on sles10sp4 that was recently released, not that ill ever have the time... | Mar 30 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Really I am waiting for the day when tom hardware and others start doing it as mainstream. | Mar 30 07:03 |
| oiaohm | then we know Linux has fully made it. | Mar 30 07:03 |
| abeNd-org | they probably wont | Mar 30 07:05 |
| abeNd-org | too many distros, & if you chose any 1 to review first, youll be flamed by zealots until the end of time | Mar 30 07:06 |
| abeNd-org | ^supporters of other distros | Mar 30 07:06 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough that is not exactly true. | Mar 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | Now of the review is 100 percent glowing listing no down sides yes you get flamed to hell by other distribution supporters. | Mar 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | but no worse than doing a glowing windows review. | Mar 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | Really its some of the myth's about how savage the open source world is a problem. abeNd-org | Mar 30 07:10 |
| abeNd-org | myths? sorry, I have been to linux user groups in mi/ga/tx, they really do represent the unwashed masses | Mar 30 07:16 |
| abeNd-org | and angry as all get out | Mar 30 07:16 |
| oiaohm | And you have not been in a pack of Apple fans or MS fans after a bad review. | Mar 30 07:18 |
| oiaohm | Ie bad as too good for the other side. | Mar 30 07:18 |
| oiaohm | No matter what screw the review up someone is going to come out and attempt to eat you alive. | Mar 30 07:19 |
| abeNd-org | one of my (least) favorite experiences was just after novl bought suse, all of them kept railing about how suse was dead & not usable. funny thing is the presentation was on the latest version of suse & using evolution (which i think novl owned at that time too). in the post meeting conversations with the people who ran the group they were continuing to bash novl, so i said to them that opensource obviously did not equal open mi | Mar 30 07:19 |
| oiaohm | Ie Linux is not unique in this regard. | Mar 30 07:19 |
| abeNd-org | oh ive been to ms/novl/cisco/vmware/etc user groups as well, the folks at the linux ones were by far the worst in many ways | Mar 30 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Really. | Mar 30 07:20 |
| oiaohm | Problem is I have seen it in person. | Mar 30 07:20 |
| abeNd-org | i will have to say the cisco folks win in biggest jerk category, but overall the linux user group folks were the worst | Mar 30 07:21 |
| oiaohm | Look closer. | Mar 30 07:21 |
| oiaohm | How many of the trouble makers in the Linux camp are not Linux. | Mar 30 07:21 |
| abeNd-org | uhh, no, most of those linux user group folks stink to high heaven, i don't want to look any closer to them than i have to | Mar 30 07:21 |
| abeNd-org | think "comic book guy" from the simpsons & you nail it on the head to cover most of them | Mar 30 07:22 |
| oiaohm | If you look closer there are a lot of MS and Apple trouble makers in there. | Mar 30 07:22 |
| abeNd-org | no, no one had starbucks with them in the morning, so im pretty sure there were no apple folks there | Mar 30 07:23 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Mar 30 07:23 |
| oiaohm | Name the 2 most common laptops to see at a Linux conf. | Mar 30 07:23 |
| abeNd-org | dells mostly from what ive seen | Mar 30 07:24 |
| abeNd-org | specific models i dont know | Mar 30 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Really dell have big branding on them. | Mar 30 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Thinkpads are the most common. Because they simply just work. | Mar 30 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Next strangely enough is normally apple laptops. | Mar 30 07:25 |
| oiaohm | But most of the apple laptops are covered in that many stickers its not funny. | Mar 30 07:26 |
| abeNd-org | LOL | Mar 30 07:27 |
| MinceR | i guess it helps hide the ugly | Mar 30 07:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 07:27 |
| abeNd-org | its the saying per cars on the road, the more bumper stickers the more dangerous the driver | Mar 30 07:27 |
| oiaohm | Dell laptops have a habit of being sticker less at a conf. | Mar 30 07:27 |
| oiaohm | Most people know if they have every tried putting stickers on most Dell models. | Mar 30 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Ie the coating glue of most stickers does not want to stick. | Mar 30 07:28 |
| MinceR | dHells don't last long enough to be worth wasting a sticker on? :> | Mar 30 07:28 |
| oiaohm | Upper models of dell do last with solid internal case. MinceR | Mar 30 07:29 |
| oiaohm | But anti finger print coating basically dooms stickers. | Mar 30 07:29 |
| abeNd-org | the latitude/precision laptops are fine, it is the vostro/inspiron that are the total junk | Mar 30 07:29 |
| MinceR | the "solid" internal case won't help the hinges that are made of excrement. | Mar 30 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Yes the cheaper models that you can get stickers to stick of dell you would not bother attempting. MinceR | Mar 30 07:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the good ones have sold metal hinges as well. | Mar 30 07:30 |
| oiaohm | The casing makes quite a good hammer in fact. | Mar 30 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Without damaging it. | Mar 30 07:30 |
| MinceR | another thing the "solid" internal case doesn't help is the touchpad | Mar 30 07:30 |
| MinceR | and the trackpad knockoff | Mar 30 07:30 |
| abeNd-org | i deal with a lot of dell hardware between all the clients ive delt with over the yrs, vostro/inspiron stuff you might as well throw away as soon as you get it, the latitudes are fine, & the precision are just fine | Mar 30 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Upper models use a different brand track/touchpad | Mar 30 07:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Yes I have the annoying job of striping them down from time to time for parts. | Mar 30 07:31 |
| abeNd-org | MinceR: im playing with a bunch of e6510s right now, they have the mouse nub in the keyboard & trackpad, whats the specific problem with them | Mar 30 07:31 |
| MinceR | abeNd-org: i've used a company-owned Latitude E6400 for almost a year now. the trackpoint-knockoff tends to keep crawling even if i let go | Mar 30 07:32 |
| oiaohm | mouse nub. Those have thinkpad tech. | Mar 30 07:32 |
| MinceR | the buttons have become nearly unresponsive | Mar 30 07:32 |
| MinceR | sometimes i have to hit it hard to click | Mar 30 07:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: afaik they don't | Mar 30 07:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You have non Thinkpad tech. | Mar 30 07:32 |
| MinceR | the genuine trackpoint on my ThinkPad does work reliably | Mar 30 07:33 |
| MinceR | (and so do the buttons) | Mar 30 07:33 |
| oiaohm | Does yours have the mouse nub? MinceR | Mar 30 07:33 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Mar 30 07:33 |
| abeNd-org | mincer so far so good with these just-unboxed e6510s | Mar 30 07:33 |
| oiaohm | The stick threw the keyboad. MinceR | Mar 30 07:34 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: this Latitude does have one. | Mar 30 07:34 |
| oiaohm | interesting what year. MinceR | Mar 30 07:34 |
| oiaohm | Please don't say 2006 | Mar 30 07:34 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 30 07:35 |
| oiaohm | I remember having to fix 2006 thinkpads due to a dud chip. | Mar 30 07:35 |
| MinceR | i suspect it's 2010 or maybe 2009 | Mar 30 07:35 |
| oiaohm | And latitudes | Mar 30 07:35 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully its not another bad batch of them. | Mar 30 07:35 |
| MinceR | the thinkpad is from 2009 | Mar 30 07:35 |
| oiaohm | Even in thinkpads you do get the odd dud. MinceR | Mar 30 07:36 |
| oiaohm | Thinkpad is simple to get it switched over and replaced then dell. | Mar 30 07:36 |
| abeNd-org | I remember going through a bunch of RMAs with the T20 series back in the day | Mar 30 07:39 |
| abeNd-org | i need to get ahold of a bunch of cheap docking stations for these e6510s .. meh | Mar 30 07:46 |
| abeNd-org | shesh, ebay is more than retail these days...double meh | Mar 30 07:47 |
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| abeNd-org | odd, gparted isnt localized in korean, you would think they would localize as many linux things as they can to get ms out of that country | Mar 30 08:39 |
| MinceR | if they wanted to, that is | Mar 30 08:40 |
| abeNd-org | looks like it is localized in 35 other languages, figured korean would be one :) | Mar 30 08:41 |
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| abeNd-org | HP's touchpads on their "compaq consumer" models suck ass | Mar 30 16:54 |
| abeNd-org | of course this laptop im running restore on is windows vista home basic... | Mar 30 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174063434186752 http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174310411579393 http://twitter.com/silner/statuses/53174887984013312 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53421920225472512 | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents Did you notice the way China dealt with US IP in cars http://bit.ly/eaMsXf cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: China May Force Foreign Automakers to Share EV Secrets and Could Take Ownership Stake in GM .::. Size~: 407.88 KB | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents And I predict the USPO will always have to surrender to the Chinese market cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @silner: @FOSSpatents The USPO is taking the piss out of the ROTW and there's only so long they'll get away with that cc @schestowitz | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In my new post http://bit.ly/huzmB6 you can find examples of OSI and Mozilla lawyers promoting and suing over software patents. | Mar 31 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: FOSS Patents: Android patent suit no. 38: Tierravision sues Google, Microsoft and RIM over spatial data patent .::. Size~: 67.03 KB | Mar 31 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3RfOXCMLzc&feature=relmfu | Apr 01 12:20 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/53831118033657856 | Apr 01 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @jonobacon: @schestowitz thanking Microsoft for supporting a Free Culture project and advertising Win7 are not the same thing. | Apr 01 12:21 |
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| gnufreex | what "Free Culture" project? | Apr 01 12:31 |
| gnufreex | Maybe "Shared Source" ? | Apr 01 12:31 |
| MinceR | probably SeveredFilth, the worlds one and only vista7 band | Apr 01 12:32 |
| MinceR | s/ds/d's/ | Apr 01 12:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he's finding excuses now | Apr 01 12:33 |
| schestowitz | His actions fed Microsoft trolls | Apr 01 12:34 |
| schestowitz | He advertises Windows and was bamboozled by Microsoft | Apr 01 12:34 |
| gnufreex | Schestowitz: He already said he has no problem with Microsfot ruining FOSS as long as they are polite. | Apr 01 12:34 |
| MinceR | i think that's not the problem he has | Apr 01 12:34 |
| MinceR | but rather that it was pointed out | Apr 01 12:35 |
| MinceR | and that it was just another piece on the pile of ways in which canonical supports the m$ agenda | Apr 01 12:35 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Open RESPECK | Apr 01 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Until Microsoft sues Canonical | Apr 01 12:35 |
| MinceR | OnesidedRespect | Apr 01 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Then we'll see what he says... | Apr 01 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft already taxes Canonical [throught MPEG_LALA] | Apr 01 12:36 |
| schestowitz | *through | Apr 01 12:36 |
| schestowitz | He came to iRC after I had poinged him about Vista 7 | Apr 01 12:36 |
| gnufreex | <schestowitz> Until Microsoft sues Canonical | Apr 01 12:37 |
| gnufreex | If they do it politely, then it is fine with their CoC. | Apr 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't mean to do such silly things, I think I can see how he was bamboozled by the Vole there | Apr 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: LOL | Apr 01 12:37 |
| MinceR | but only if m$ does it | Apr 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz | We, Microsoft, open-respectfully asserting our patent rights | Apr 01 12:37 |
| MinceR | everyone else will be "peanut gallery" | Apr 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 01 12:38 |
| schestowitz | !google "peanut gallery" | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - Peanut gallery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_gallery | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - Affordable Child Care | The Peanut Gallery | http://www.peanutgallerychildcare.com/ | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - peanut gallery - definition of peanut gallery by the Free Online ... | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/peanut%2Bgallery | Apr 01 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [4] - World Wide Words: Peanut gallery | http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pea1.htm | Apr 01 12:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70215366 http://identi.ca/notice/70213517 | Apr 01 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 17:27:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hi there Mr. Schestowitz, TR seems to be down. Can't access it. | Apr 01 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 16:58:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hi There Mr. Schestowitz, I'd like to ask you if you have anything about criticism of the technical side of winblow$ $even ? | Apr 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 has the same drawbacks as XP | Apr 01 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | I've just busted two speakers but playing music too loudly on them :-) those speakers were only days old.. | Apr 02 07:45 |
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| abeNd-org | why not share via dropbox? no filtering there, except your own antivirus :) | Apr 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe some people do that or will do that when other medium types get jammed | Apr 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | IIRC a service like dropbox was threatened by MAFIAA recently | Apr 03 08:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcesteves/status/55158721340387328 | Apr 05 00:03 |
| TechrightsBot | @jmcesteves: But #EU #securocrats will go on scaring & lying: RT @RuiSeabra ♺ @schestowitz: Data retention rejected by Czechs http://j.mp/fieTL1 #privacy | Apr 05 00:03 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: Open Rights Group | Data retention rejected by Czechs .::. Size~: 14.43 KB | Apr 05 00:03 |
| schestowitz | "Radu Georgescu, CEO of GECAD (big Romanian IT GROUP), on WP7  http://tinyurl.com/673e6n7 " | Apr 05 00:03 |
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| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | You are more concerned than you ought to be, in my humble opinion. Earlier today a friend and I were trying to kill some time on the Internet and he was eager to just google his own name, then he tried mine. He did scroll through the pages to reveal some libel, but as he clicked on it he found what only seemed like some rogue forums with obscenely-, crudely-written text which is impossible to believe. More so than Wikipedia, people | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | are encouraged to distrusted what they randomly find somewhere on the Web, unless it is 'in print'. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | The trolls play like kids. They are also viewed by outsiders like a bunch of kids. They have no provenance. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > Dear [...], | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > I'm very sorry this has happened to you, but I think this is the goal of | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > the trolls, and of course they are completely unscrupulous. I hadn't | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > looked [...] for several months and when I came back I noticed that | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > there were now regular smears against [...] Words don't exist | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > to express my disgust at that group of people, from DFS to flatfish to | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > Clogwog to Ezekiel. I also noticed the good job that Homer and Richard | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > Rasker are doing. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > I think one reason I stopped posting very much is that I don't want to | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > get smeared like that. Of course it means I've given in to them. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > Over time there may arise some legal or other procedures for dealing | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > with trolls. In the meantime, Google isn't helping at all. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > Good luck, you're doing the right thing. I wouldn't blame you if you | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > wanted to back out of the whole mess that is cola. It would be better | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | > if the whole operation could be shut down, imo. | Apr 05 15:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 05 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | If sincere activity in other sites is more recent than libel from years ago, it will, in due time, appear prominently coupled with the said name. Forums links age and break after some years because nobody properly looks after that. | Apr 06 00:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 00:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/55505299368452096 | Apr 06 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz If you make a false claim about inside information when the info was actually on the Web, you must correct it. I insist. | Apr 06 00:29 |
| schestowitz | It's pointers to it that count, see O'Garagate for details | Apr 06 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535156 | Apr 06 05:44 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:38:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz I hope this comes to nothing. Cheers and good luck! | Apr 06 05:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535307 | Apr 06 05:44 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:40:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz Oh, but I remember that chap, that one, he was a pain in the neck. I fear Mr. Patents acts the same way | Apr 06 05:44 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70535431 | Apr 06 05:44 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 06-Apr-11 12:41:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz But he should disclose his employers. I doubt Real Madrid is paying him to badmouth Linux. | Apr 06 05:44 |
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| schestowitz | "@thistleweb @openbytes do you want to record today?" | Apr 07 13:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/56085886215004161 | Apr 07 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot | @ThistleWeb: @schestowitz @openbytes I'm cool to record | Apr 07 13:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/tlajtoani/status/56216725133340672 | Apr 07 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot | @tlajtoani: @schestowitz I am interested in translating to Spanish some of your Techrights articles. | Apr 07 23:38 |
| schestowitz | That would be very nice, it's best done via e-mail (translations sent to techrights for publishing) | Apr 07 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/56362197483401216 | Apr 08 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot | @explodingwalrus: #ff #linux @vigilant @robertahilljr @ubuntuvibes @popey @PopeJimXXIII @RBLevin @jpyper @shawnp0wers @schestowitz | Apr 08 09:54 |
| MinceR | where's the message? :> | Apr 08 11:01 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Apr 08 11:01 |
| schestowitz | I can put it here.. | Apr 08 11:01 |
| MinceR | i mean, it's just a bunch of nicks and hashtags | Apr 08 11:02 |
| schestowitz | yes, he's a supporters of techrights for a while... | Apr 08 11:03 |
| schestowitz | but nm | Apr 08 11:03 |
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| schestowitz | > well, I was more making a point. I don't really care personally what people | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > say, as long as the facts are not made up and vicious. | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > I was just saying, learn to check things out carefully so going forward you | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > don't end up sued for absolutely nothing that matters. | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > Someone is bound to if you make it so easy. | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > People sometimes say things about Groklaw because they don't understand | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > that it's not an advocacy site when discussing legal cases, not in the usual | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > sense of advocacy. I tell what I believe is legally true or likely to happen or | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > what would be effective, not necessarily what I personally like. | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:35 |
| schestowitz | > In the Psystar case, I just knew the law and knew Psystar had no chance. In | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > Hotz, he has a slim one, but mostly the law is against him, so that is | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > what I write. But I'm not pushing for anybody. If there is a message | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > it's always | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > the same: don't mess with proprietary software, because you will get burned. | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > Same with patents. I covered the In re Bilskie case very very thouroughly, and | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > the message was always that software and patents need to get a divorce. I've | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > written that since 2003, over and over and over. Where people get confused is | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > that I also think the community is stupid about patents. Until there | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > is a divorce, | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > patents are dangerous, and there is only a limited number of ways to deal with | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > the danger: find prior art (or establish it, as in OIN's process), | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > join a protective | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > entity like OIN, or have a patent arsenal yourself, which is what Google is | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > trying to do. They have the money to do it, and it's a good thing for them to | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > do. They will use it to discourage the stupid patent lawsuits from | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > being brought | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > in the first place. It's why no one much sues IBM over anything where their | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > patent arsenal could be used in counterclaims. | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > There is no other solution currently that I know of. Some misinterpret that | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > to mean I am wishy washy over patents. I'm not. They just don't understand | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | > legal stuff enough to see it clearly as it is. | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. I very much appreciate the lengthy clarification. I too try to tell the truth even when I don't like the truth (e.g. about Novell post-Microsoft deal). When it comes to patents, the approach of the FFII very much appeals to me. They too are programmer types, like myself. | Apr 08 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Just got this comment a minute ago: http://techrights.org/2011/04/08/praise-of-groklaw/#comments | Apr 08 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Criticism of Mono Now “Disappearing” | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.86 KB | Apr 08 14:37 |
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Today I take stock of what we have and organise some notes about what we did and what we need to do next (almost 50 pages now). I've just created a sort of overview image that helps keep track of the said process, implemented mostly in according with the IJCV reference description.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oiaohm: don't you just hate checking for structure in large documents to make them mint?|
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :How's your paper coming along?
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:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :schestowitz: Could not get my normal english checking person until next week.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :schestowitz: Other than that its done.
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell : I got my permanent connection back and I'm on identi.ca again.
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Heh
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> is the weekend & relax for a couple of days
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food &
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> fun. So please enjoy yourself also.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Have a nice weekend
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :"
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Here it goes: in-re-bilski-invalidates-ms-sues_ES
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> #I know you're pissed off by those bastards BT but remember tomorrow
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> is the weekend & relax for a couple of days
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> #I'm taking the kids to their little cousin's party. A lot of food &
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> fun. So please enjoy yourself also.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Have a nice weekend
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oops
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :"My pleasure . How are you ? Still problems with BT, affecting Techrights ?"
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Thankfully, they escalated to execs after I blogged about it and then fixed it very quickly.
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :http://www.linuxtoday.com/
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oiaohm: ^^ do you know what goes on there?
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I only visit the site.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :But these days it mostly looks like site scraping. schestowitz
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :http://mrpogson.com/2011/03/29/ticked-off-vent/
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oiaohm: no editorials
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :and no direct links in homepage, so two clicks needed
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :but they fired the editor for reasons I don't know
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :schestowitz: maybe with a new editor we will see articals again.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :schestowitz: a long time ago linuxtoday use to have a state of a union thing of open source that was quite nice.
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :yes, or those weekly op eds
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :As I explaIned to a mate in the car yesterday, Linux Today fails to evolve
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :It's still the same way it has been for a long time
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Same with Groklaw
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :They tried a twitter account but hardly with passion
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :So they end up like blogs, which fewer people read directly because they go to some "social networks" - whatever that means
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I tried to steer away from blog/comments and also reached out to people in networks where we can debate issues
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :The news stagnation (news site) is another problem
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Some of it gets swapped by PR/ghostwriting
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Wikileaks just dumps lots of raw docs with redacted parts
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Because real investigative journalism died
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Back in the days some 'news' sites with reputation did Linux distros reviews
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :They don't anymore
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Sometimes you have the tech news sites covering very few
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:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Its the importance of them.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :More and more Linux world is not need them
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Because more and more main stream press is doing the reviews and so on.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :who has time to even do that anymore, not to mention there is so much to cover it would take weeks to do a review any real justice
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Linux is basically ceasing to be a Fringe area OS.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :abeNd-org: Really all reviews of Distributions/OS through out history have never been that completely.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :done.
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :id like to do one on sles10sp4 that was recently released, not that ill ever have the time...
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Really I am waiting for the day when tom hardware and others start doing it as mainstream.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :then we know Linux has fully made it.
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :they probably wont
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :too many distros, & if you chose any 1 to review first, youll be flamed by zealots until the end of time
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :^supporters of other distros
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:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Funny enough that is not exactly true.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Now of the review is 100 percent glowing listing no down sides yes you get flamed to hell by other distribution supporters.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :but no worse than doing a glowing windows review.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Really its some of the myth's about how savage the open source world is a problem. abeNd-org
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :myths? sorry, I have been to linux user groups in mi/ga/tx, they really do represent the unwashed masses
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :and angry as all get out
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:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :And you have not been in a pack of Apple fans or MS fans after a bad review.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Ie bad as too good for the other side.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :No matter what screw the review up someone is going to come out and attempt to eat you alive.
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :one of my (least) favorite experiences was just after novl bought suse, all of them kept railing about how suse was dead & not usable. funny thing is the presentation was on the latest version of suse & using evolution (which i think novl owned at that time too). in the post meeting conversations with the people who ran the group they were continuing to bash novl, so i said to them that opensource obviously did not equal open mi
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Ie Linux is not unique in this regard.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oh ive been to ms/novl/cisco/vmware/etc user groups as well, the folks at the linux ones were by far the worst in many ways
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Really.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Problem is I have seen it in person.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i will have to say the cisco folks win in biggest jerk category, but overall the linux user group folks were the worst
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Look closer.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :How many of the trouble makers in the Linux camp are not Linux.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :uhh, no, most of those linux user group folks stink to high heaven, i don't want to look any closer to them than i have to
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :think "comic book guy" from the simpsons & you nail it on the head to cover most of them
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :If you look closer there are a lot of MS and Apple trouble makers in there.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :no, no one had starbucks with them in the morning, so im pretty sure there were no apple folks there
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :LOL
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Name the 2 most common laptops to see at a Linux conf.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :dells mostly from what ive seen
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :specific models i dont know
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Really dell have big branding on them.
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:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Thinkpads are the most common. Because they simply just work.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Next strangely enough is normally apple laptops.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :But most of the apple laptops are covered in that many stickers its not funny.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :LOL
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i guess it helps hide the ugly
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell ::>
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :its the saying per cars on the road, the more bumper stickers the more dangerous the driver
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Dell laptops have a habit of being sticker less at a conf.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Most people know if they have every tried putting stickers on most Dell models.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Ie the coating glue of most stickers does not want to stick.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :dHells don't last long enough to be worth wasting a sticker on? :>
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Upper models of dell do last with solid internal case. MinceR
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :But anti finger print coating basically dooms stickers.
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :the latitude/precision laptops are fine, it is the vostro/inspiron that are the total junk
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :the "solid" internal case won't help the hinges that are made of excrement.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Yes the cheaper models that you can get stickers to stick of dell you would not bother attempting. MinceR
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :MinceR: the good ones have sold metal hinges as well.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :The casing makes quite a good hammer in fact.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Without damaging it.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :another thing the "solid" internal case doesn't help is the touchpad
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :and the trackpad knockoff
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i deal with a lot of dell hardware between all the clients ive delt with over the yrs, vostro/inspiron stuff you might as well throw away as soon as you get it, the latitudes are fine, & the precision are just fine
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Upper models use a different brand track/touchpad
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :MinceR: Yes I have the annoying job of striping them down from time to time for parts.
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :MinceR: im playing with a bunch of e6510s right now, they have the mouse nub in the keyboard & trackpad, whats the specific problem with them
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :abeNd-org: i've used a company-owned Latitude E6400 for almost a year now. the trackpoint-knockoff tends to keep crawling even if i let go
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :mouse nub. Those have thinkpad tech.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :the buttons have become nearly unresponsive
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :sometimes i have to hit it hard to click
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oiaohm: afaik they don't
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :MinceR: You have non Thinkpad tech.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :the genuine trackpoint on my ThinkPad does work reliably
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :(and so do the buttons)
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Does yours have the mouse nub? MinceR
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :what do you mean?
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :mincer so far so good with these just-unboxed e6510s
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :The stick threw the keyboad. MinceR
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :oiaohm: this Latitude does have one.
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :interesting what year. MinceR
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Please don't say 2006
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :dunno
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I remember having to fix 2006 thinkpads due to a dud chip.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i suspect it's 2010 or maybe 2009
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :And latitudes
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Hopefully its not another bad batch of them.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :the thinkpad is from 2009
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Even in thinkpads you do get the odd dud. MinceR
:oiaohm!~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Thinkpad is simple to get it switched over and replaced then dell.
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I remember going through a bunch of RMAs with the T20 series back in the day
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i need to get ahold of a bunch of cheap docking stations for these e6510s .. meh
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :shesh, ebay is more than retail these days...double meh
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :odd, gparted isnt localized in korean, you would think they would localize as many linux things as they can to get ms out of that country
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :if they wanted to, that is
:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :looks like it is localized in 35 other languages, figured korean would be one :)
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3RfOXCMLzc&feature=relmfu
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/53831118033657856
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:gnufreex!~quassel@212-200-201-152.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :what "Free Culture" project?
:gnufreex!~quassel@212-200-201-152.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Maybe "Shared Source" ?
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :probably SeveredFilth, the worlds one and only vista7 band
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :s/ds/d's/
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :gnufreex: he's finding excuses now
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :His actions fed Microsoft trolls
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :He advertises Windows and was bamboozled by Microsoft
:gnufreex!~quassel@212-200-201-152.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Schestowitz: He already said he has no problem with Microsfot ruining FOSS as long as they are polite.
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i think that's not the problem he has
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :but rather that it was pointed out
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :and that it was just another piece on the pile of ways in which canonical supports the m$ agenda
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :gnufreex: Open RESPECK
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Until Microsoft sues Canonical
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :OnesidedRespect
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Then we'll see what he says...
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Microsoft already taxes Canonical [throught MPEG_LALA]
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :*through
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :He came to iRC after I had poinged him about Vista 7
:gnufreex!~quassel@212-200-201-152.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #boycottnovell : Until Microsoft sues Canonical
:gnufreex!~quassel@212-200-201-152.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :If they do it politely, then it is fine with their CoC.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :He doesn't mean to do such silly things, I think I can see how he was bamboozled by the Vole there
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :gnufreex: LOL
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :but only if m$ does it
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :We, Microsoft, open-respectfully asserting our patent rights
:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :everyone else will be "peanut gallery"
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :LOL
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :!google "peanut gallery"
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Vista 7 has the same drawbacks as XP
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :https://identi.ca/notice/70250761 https://identi.ca/notice/70250771
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I've just busted two speakers but playing music too loudly on them :-) those speakers were only days old..
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/54449888175464448 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/54450074234785792
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :"I was hoping to get your attachment via skype as E-mail seems to be filtering them (beyond my control)."
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Stupid e-mail
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:abeNd-org!~KKlenke@tx-76-0-85-213.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :why not share via dropbox? no filtering there, except your own antivirus :)
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :maybe some people do that or will do that when other medium types get jammed
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :"@thistleweb @openbytes do you want to record today?"
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :https://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/56085886215004161
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :https://twitter.com/tlajtoani/status/56216725133340672
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :That would be very nice, it's best done via e-mail (translations sent to techrights for publishing)
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :where's the message? :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :which one?
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :I can put it here..
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:MinceR!~mincer@unaffiliated/mincer PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :i mean, it's just a bunch of nicks and hashtags
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :yes, he's a supporters of techrights for a while...
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :but nm
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> well, I was more making a point. I don't really care personally what people
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> say, as long as the facts are not made up and vicious.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> I was just saying, learn to check things out carefully so going forward you
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> don't end up sued for absolutely nothing that matters.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Someone is bound to if you make it so easy.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> People sometimes say things about Groklaw because they don't understand
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> that it's not an advocacy site when discussing legal cases, not in the usual
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> sense of advocacy. I tell what I believe is legally true or likely to happen or
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> what would be effective, not necessarily what I personally like.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> In the Psystar case, I just knew the law and knew Psystar had no chance. In
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Hotz, he has a slim one, but mostly the law is against him, so that is
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> what I write. But I'm not pushing for anybody. If there is a message
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> it's always
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> the same: don't mess with proprietary software, because you will get burned.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Same with patents. I covered the In re Bilskie case very very thouroughly, and
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> the message was always that software and patents need to get a divorce. I've
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> written that since 2003, over and over and over. Where people get confused is
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> that I also think the community is stupid about patents. Until there
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> is a divorce,
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> patents are dangerous, and there is only a limited number of ways to deal with
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> the danger: find prior art (or establish it, as in OIN's process),
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> join a protective
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> entity like OIN, or have a patent arsenal yourself, which is what Google is
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> trying to do. They have the money to do it, and it's a good thing for them to
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> do. They will use it to discourage the stupid patent lawsuits from
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> being brought
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> in the first place. It's why no one much sues IBM over anything where their
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> patent arsenal could be used in counterclaims.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> There is no other solution currently that I know of. Some misinterpret that
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> to mean I am wishy washy over patents. I'm not. They just don't understand
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> legal stuff enough to see it clearly as it is.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Thanks. I very much appreciate the lengthy clarification. I too try to tell the truth even when I don't like the truth (e.g. about Novell post-Microsoft deal). When it comes to patents, the approach of the FFII very much appeals to me. They too are programmer types, like myself.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Just got this comment a minute ago: http://techrights.org/2011/04/08/praise-of-groklaw/#comments
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> That sounds like Florian and the Hercules gang.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Again, people misunderstand when I explain the law with what they
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> imagine my personal views are. IBM does have the right. Legally
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> they do. Those guys were pretending that Hercules the company
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> and Hercules the open source project were the same, and that
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> therefore IBM had no right to sue, because they'd promised not
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> to sue open source projects. I pointed out the difference btw
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:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> the project and the company, which is essentially proprietary, and
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> hence IBM has the right to sue without violating its promise.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> Those guys are not confused, of course. They just like to
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> attack.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :Groklaw needs to watch out for people who try to incite against Groklaw (and sometimes succeed). I had that done to me for years.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> I didn't write that. I never comment anywhere but on Groklaw, unless I
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> write about it on Groklaw. It's someone pretending to be me.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> You ought to realize it, since it says I claim to be a
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :> programmer, which you know I am not.
:schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :No, I was talking about myself there. I have two jobs ATM: one as a sysadmin, the other coding (post-doc).
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