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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 17 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | hi, MinceR | Apr 17 10:37 |
| *schestowitz got question | Apr 17 10:37 | |
| schestowitz | how do you manage program launching? | Apr 17 10:39 |
| schestowitz | I ask because you're a Linux guru in my eyes | Apr 17 10:40 |
| schestowitz | And recently I nuked my icon shortcuts, then starting lancelot | Apr 17 10:40 |
| schestowitz | IIRC you use Do/katapult type thing | Apr 17 10:40 |
| schestowitz | And today I updated my xbingkeys to run almost all programs with just keyboard shortcuts, maybe there's an even better way | Apr 17 10:41 |
| MinceR | nowadays i use the K menu (type to search), krunner (also commands), Kupfer (sort of like Do/Katapult) | Apr 17 10:42 |
| schestowitz | is it not slow though? | Apr 17 10:42 |
| MinceR | before i used kde4 i used gmrun and Katapult | Apr 17 10:42 |
| MinceR | which one? | Apr 17 10:42 |
| schestowitz | I lost patience with alt+f2 and f5 for lancelot | Apr 17 10:42 |
| MinceR | searching in kde menu entries is somewhat slow | Apr 17 10:42 |
| schestowitz | I now use them only for apps I rarely run and don't have on keyboard hotlist | Apr 17 10:43 |
| MinceR | but i don't mind the bindings | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | it *is* slow | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Esp. on a loaded system | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | alt+f, then tap some stuff, then enter | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather ctrl+alt+4 to get a screenshot for example | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | much faster | Apr 17 10:43 |
| schestowitz | I also run some scripts this way, e.g. copy backups of databases to newly-created directories for data (alt+ctrl+6) | Apr 17 10:44 |
| schestowitz | So I always go back to the CLI | Apr 17 10:44 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to have lots of shells (like 10 of them) when friends come over and use the computer, they think Linux is hard and lame this way | Apr 17 10:45 |
| MinceR | it's ok, they can get appliances for most of the tasks if they don't want to learn how to use a computer :> | Apr 17 10:50 |
| schestowitz | mac os applianceX | Apr 17 11:01 |
| MinceR | or worse | Apr 17 11:01 |
| schestowitz | It does everything like a toaster | Apr 17 11:01 |
| schestowitz | toasters are cheaper, though | Apr 17 11:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 17 11:03 |
| schestowitz | TOASTi | Apr 17 11:05 |
| schestowitz | It shouts out, "I am not a toaster (or PC), I'm better because I'm more expensive" | Apr 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Apple has put the s* in chique http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chique | Apr 17 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: chique - Wiktionary .::. Size~: 19.67 KB | Apr 17 11:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 17 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Apple store is where you go to make the statement that you're better for having footwear and cotton, even tough everyone around you have those too | Apr 17 11:08 |
| schestowitz | *has | Apr 17 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Symptom of societal illness, like HOOVER | Apr 17 11:09 |
| MinceR | footwear? | Apr 17 11:10 |
| MinceR | people would otherwise go barefoot? | Apr 17 11:10 |
| schestowitz | get some hard skin | Apr 17 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Our species has grown soft. No other animal wears such stuff | Apr 17 11:13 |
| MinceR | no other animal can speak or write either | Apr 17 11:15 |
| MinceR | or explore the workings of reality, understand them and build complex and powerful machines based on that knowledge | Apr 17 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Some humans can't either | Apr 17 11:48 |
| schestowitz | We're good at passing on knowledge | Apr 17 11:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/IDC-Smart-Technology-World-conference-and-study/?kc=rss | Apr 17 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Embedded CPUs will outnumber PC equivalents six to one by 2015, IDC says - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.48 KB | Apr 17 11:54 |
| MinceR | yes, it seems that only a fraction of humanity is intelligent | Apr 17 12:08 |
| schestowitz | "but we are the chosen ones" | Apr 17 12:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/01/Straight-Right | Apr 17 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Reshaping .::. Size~: 43.09 KB | Apr 17 12:59 |
| schestowitz | "In this case I agree 100%. Hyphenator.js is trivial to install and seems to Just Work; as I consider its results, I have seen very little so far that offends my eye. Also, the architecture is pleasing; it makes perfect sense to run this sort of publishing busywork on the Web’s billions of underworked client systems, rather than on its millions of often-overworked servers." | Apr 17 12:59 |
| Ender2070 | lol I pissed off Jack | Apr 17 14:03 |
| Ender2070 | http://twitter.com/#!/ender2070/status/59601280762515456 | Apr 17 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot | @ender2070: @jackschofield What code of conduct applies to you when you attack Roy? Is it the terms of reference that Microsoft handed to you? | Apr 17 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Flordian needs a challenge because this bugger denies my many FOSS coding projects | Apr 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | And he himself had none | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Ender2070 | one of his replies to me included the hashtag #circlejerk | Apr 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | I don't talk to him anyway | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Ender2070 | real mature | Apr 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | I'd point that ought | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Ender2070 | i dont even need to keep talking | Apr 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | He's rude | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Ender2070 | he lost by doing that | Apr 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | the #circlejerk is what Florian did in LWN | Apr 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | and lost | Apr 17 14:07 |
| Ender2070 | yup | Apr 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | saying PJ doesn't matter despite her awards | Apr 17 14:07 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Apr 17 14:07 |
| Ender2070 | well Florian Hates IBM | Apr 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | they have a circle there now with the mono stalkers, .NET people, Florian, Jack.. | Apr 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | All the poisonous people | Apr 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: Microsoft hates IBM | Apr 17 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Florian loves his job | Apr 17 14:08 |
| Ender2070 | I bet they do have a terms of reference | Apr 17 14:08 |
| schestowitz | See Florian's past 20 tweets | Apr 17 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Almost alll of them are about me and techrights, so he obsesses much | Apr 17 14:09 |
| schestowitz | We cause his mails to be ignored by people | Apr 17 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Notice it has been weeks since the press bothered embedded his mails in pieces | Apr 17 14:09 |
| schestowitz | His twitter account is just ad hominem and Microsoft chat groups now | Apr 17 14:09 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59590867211661312 | Apr 17 14:15 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield I didn't mean to excuse anything. BTW, I looked at the "Free Software" he wrote. It's a few lines of extremely simple stuff. | Apr 17 14:15 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 17 14:15 |
| schestowitz | What a liar | Apr 17 14:16 |
| schestowitz | I said to another person look at project | Apr 17 14:16 |
| Ender2070 | thats what these people do | Apr 17 14:16 |
| schestowitz | And then Florian went only to Utilities | Apr 17 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Which are like code samples | Apr 17 14:16 |
| Ender2070 | they look for things you've done to make an ad hominem attack | Apr 17 14:16 |
| Ender2070 | why cant he refute your points | Apr 17 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Next time he issues threats I'll remind him that he slanders me using lies | Apr 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | Notice he didn't rebutted my last night's posts about him | Apr 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | He just had vengeance this morning, all ad hominem | Apr 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | *rebut | Apr 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | or *hasn't | Apr 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59598415075606528 | Apr 17 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield I actually have to give him credit for sometimes criticizing Red Hat, IBM, Google etc. in ways that Groklaw never did. | Apr 17 14:18 |
| schestowitz | He tries to egg on attacks on Linux companies | Apr 17 14:18 |
| Ender2070 | you should see mine | Apr 17 14:18 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59593231167533058 | Apr 17 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: In about 24 hours, Android will go on trial for the first time of many. ITC hearing on Apple v. HTC. | Apr 17 14:18 |
| Ender2070 | http://twitter.com/#!/ender2070/status/59604639691186176 | Apr 17 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot | @ender2070: @FOSSpatents @jackschofield Is it a coincidence that all those companies are direct enemies of #MSFT / cc #fsf #linux @schestowitz | Apr 17 14:18 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59600995700834304 | Apr 17 14:20 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @ender2070 Can't cope with the truth, eh? Colour me not surprised. #techrights #circlejerk http://bit.ly/ezeT9z | Apr 17 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | He insulted some random commenter in zdnet and got called on it | Apr 17 14:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 17 14:21 |
| schestowitz | He also says "scumbag" | Apr 17 14:21 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59584015325335552 | Apr 17 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @schestowitz Fair enough. I'll ask rms how he likes your scumbag behaviour next time he stays at my house.... | Apr 17 14:21 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/59582533028945920 | Apr 17 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot | @m4n1sh: @schestowitz Time for your associates to stop calling "Jono Bacon" as "Mono Bacon". Is there a #techrights Code of Conduct? @jackschofield | Apr 17 14:22 |
| schestowitz | That's daemonFC who said this | Apr 17 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Not me | Apr 17 14:22 |
| schestowitz | And the mono boosters incite against us using jack | Apr 17 14:22 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/59535217593040896 http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/59531319482392576 | Apr 17 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot | @m4n1sh: @schestowitz They are so trivial that it doesn't even make sense to copyright it. @akshatj_96 @FOSSpatents | Apr 17 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot | @m4n1sh: @schestowitz Dude, you use proprietary matlab. How do you defend your action now? @akshatj_96 @FOSSpatents | Apr 17 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Octave is a GNU project | Apr 17 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Not proprietary | Apr 17 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Jack speaks to mono trolls now (who trolled out IRC channel): http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59598444632879105 | Apr 17 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @m4n1sh @schestowitz Yes, the #techrights Code of Conduct is: "find people who are better than you and use lies and smears to malign them". | Apr 17 14:23 |
| schestowitz | OMG LOL http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59580868183851008 | Apr 17 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @FOSSpatents I take your point that @schestowitz is a Microsoft hater and a joke, but that's no excuse for behaving like a jerk #boycottboy | Apr 17 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Jack tells Florian "behaving like a jerk" | Apr 17 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Apr 17 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Jack the gentleman | Apr 17 14:25 |
| schestowitz | "circle jerk" | Apr 17 14:25 |
| schestowitz | x-rated | Apr 17 14:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59597426918572032 | Apr 17 14:25 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @FOSSpatents Funny in view of #boycottboy's monomania: "It is a mistake to focus our criticism narrowly on Microsoft." http://bit.ly/gUXEVi | Apr 17 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | Now they appeal to authority | Apr 17 14:25 |
| schestowitz | Pretending that the FSF is against me | Apr 17 14:25 |
| schestowitz | When in fact the FSF was approaching me for consultation on some issues liike Windows 7 sometimes | Apr 17 14:26 |
| schestowitz | I won't descend into a conversation with these jerks, esp. given that it just raises the temp. | Apr 17 14:26 |
| schestowitz | "http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59604381787635712 | Apr 17 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @FOSSpatents Really? I'd assumed #boycottboy was an IBM tool. What did he criticise? | Apr 17 14:27 |
| schestowitz | " #boycottboy was an IBM tool." -Jack | Apr 17 14:27 |
| schestowitz | [Florian] "behaving like a jerk" -Jack | Apr 17 14:27 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 17 14:27 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Apr 17 14:30 |
| Ender2070 | Im laughing at Mono Bacon | Apr 17 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | oops | Apr 17 14:30 |
| Ender2070 | I was laughing at the Mono Bacon thing | Apr 17 14:31 |
| schestowitz | i hit wrong keys | Apr 17 14:31 |
| Ender2070 | hes noit a mono pusher but thats hilarious | Apr 17 14:31 |
| schestowitz | If you want to see Jack go mental, I'd play the age thing | Apr 17 14:31 |
| schestowitz | It worked a treat the last time | Apr 17 14:31 |
| schestowitz | He went berserk | Apr 17 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I said something like , because of age, I don't want to be too hard on you and I won't reply to you | Apr 17 14:32 |
| schestowitz | He knows I'm in myn 20s | Apr 17 14:32 |
| schestowitz | To him it's like I make fun of an erectile dysfunction | Apr 17 14:32 |
| schestowitz | He did this after he tried bringing my parents into it | Apr 17 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Like the Bill OI'reilly tactic... pretending you speak to a mommy's kid... even the tag boycottboy is part of that | Apr 17 14:33 |
| Ender2070 | http://twitter.com/#!/ender2070/status/59610492280381440 | Apr 17 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @ender2070: @m4n1sh We're not implying they're all servicing each other, that's the rude part on @jackschfield who should know better being 50+ in age | Apr 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59604846801715200 http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59605329025040384 | Apr 17 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @ender2070 I didn't seek #boycottboy out, he attacked me. Otherwise my code is to tell the truth. I take commissions but I don't take orders | Apr 17 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @ender2070 More mature than you, obviously. As with #boycottboy, I didn't seek you out. Don't insult people if you can't handle the response | Apr 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I'm just seeing his replies atm.. http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59607105728020480 | Apr 17 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @ender2070 @FOSSpatents Good point, but IBM supports ODF. Doesn't that give them a free pass on their 98% proprietary business? #boycottboy | Apr 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | it's not 98% proprietary | Apr 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | He lies like Florian | Apr 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Heck, he could say 99% | Apr 17 14:37 |
| oiaohm | boy he don't know IBM. | Apr 17 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Eclipse, Linux, Symphony to an extent, etc. | Apr 17 14:38 |
| oiaohm | IBM is one of the biggest in the developer for cash trading game.' | Apr 17 14:38 |
| schestowitz | !google jack schofield ibm | Apr 17 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - Twitter / Jeff Jarvis: @jackschofield Right. IBM ... | http://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/status/24588075216670720 | Apr 17 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - IBM's goof, Oracle buys Sun | Technology | guardian.co.uk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/apr/20/oracle-sun-takeover | Apr 17 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - IBM updates Power7 hardware | ZDNet UK | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/mapping-babel-10017967/ibm-updates-power7-hardware-10022242/ | Apr 17 14:38 |
| oiaohm | The trading game. | Apr 17 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Come up with a feature to be added to a open source project. Write up its benifits then see if other companies will pay you to code it. | Apr 17 14:39 |
| oiaohm | IBM does very well out that game. | Apr 17 14:40 |
| schestowitz | It's a sharing model | Apr 17 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Like Linux and Apache that are good example | Apr 17 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Its still a game. | Apr 17 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Beneficial to customers | Apr 17 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Sometimes the code is already done for internal usage. | Apr 17 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Not so beneficial to some old monopolies | Apr 17 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Same with mysql vs Oracle | Apr 17 14:42 |
| oiaohm | And you are seeing if anyone else will pay. | Apr 17 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Like in every game there is a losing side | Apr 17 14:43 |
| schestowitz | If a monopolist is on the losing side, I'm in favour | Apr 17 14:43 |
| oiaohm | Really open source game is fairly fair. | Apr 17 14:43 |
| oiaohm | You can only sell it once. | Apr 17 14:43 |
| schestowitz | fairly fair :-) | Apr 17 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Simply simple | Apr 17 14:44 |
| oiaohm | its only fairly fair because there is still the chance to rip person off. | Apr 17 14:45 |
| oiaohm | but you only do it once. | Apr 17 14:45 |
| oiaohm | I don't see how closed source works out fair for developers or anyone else. | Apr 17 14:46 |
| cubezzz | in the long run it doesn't | Apr 17 14:57 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I don't follow... | Apr 17 14:58 |
| schestowitz | This part: | Apr 17 14:58 |
| schestowitz | [14:45] <oiaohm> its only fairly fair because there is still the chance to rip person off.f | Apr 17 14:58 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: company done the work for there own needs. But sells it like they don't need it | Apr 17 15:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its just part of the game. | Apr 17 15:02 |
| oiaohm | all money games have to have a little bit of trickery. | Apr 17 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Florian plays this type of insult | Apr 17 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Like saying that Red Hat kills the industry or vanishes money | Apr 17 15:16 |
| schestowitz | It's the Microsoft talking points | Apr 17 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Every market place has a section of cheating. | Apr 17 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Its like big business being able to buy windows cheeper than general public. schestowitz | Apr 17 15:17 |
| oiaohm | I am just truthful where the trickery is. | Apr 17 15:17 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 17 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71207738 | Apr 17 15:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 16-Apr-11 23:25:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @webmink, only b/c ppl like #Shuttleworth prey on conflating things. Simply: !FSF ©AAs make binding community promises;for-profit ones don't | Apr 17 15:35 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71212401 | Apr 17 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot | @Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 01:48:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @webmink @bkuhn I also call on !FSF to end mandatory copyright assignment. | Apr 17 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71212721 | Apr 17 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot | @John Sullivan (johnsu01)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 01:59:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @fontana To be clear (ITYK), !FSF doesn't have mandatory assignment. True for many !GNU projects, but not most. http://ur1.ca/3v9da | Apr 17 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: GNU Software Evaluation - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 23.04 KB | Apr 17 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71213151 | Apr 17 15:37 |
| TechrightsBot | @Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Sunday, 17-Apr-11 02:10:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @bkuhn why did !FSF permit own lawyers to be initial #Harmony drafters if effort involved misrepresenting FSF, my former client? cc: @kaz | Apr 17 15:37 |
| schestowitz | This whole argument has gone on (publicly) for days | Apr 17 15:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71207602 | Apr 17 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 16-Apr-11 23:20:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @webmink, you're misrepresenting !FSF's position. FSF has published various suggestions for for-profit ©AAs to make them similar to FSF's. | Apr 17 15:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71207383 | Apr 17 15:39 |
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| TechrightsBot | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 16-Apr-11 23:14:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @webmink, yes, many people are good at misrepresenting !FSF to their own ends. It's how #Shuttleworth's #Harmony campaign started, in fact. | Apr 17 15:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70944185 | Apr 17 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot | @Osama Khalid (osamak)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Apr-11 15:50:03 UTC - Identi.ca: I'll donate 100SAR to the !FSF if the gov religious authority in #SaudiArabia releases a fatwa that wearing 1.5KG of gold is a sin... | Apr 17 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > It's standard for lobbyists and pr people to do what Florian does. He's just | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > more long winded than most. But it's based on the idea that journalists will | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > more likely use material that is already prepared for them, that they can just | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > copy and paste into their articles, because journalists normally are working | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > against killer deadlines. | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > If you match up what he sends with what gets printed, you'll see that it's a | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | > technique that works. It doesn't make any of it true, of course, just handy. | Apr 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people imagined it was so, but they lacked the evidence. Given Florian's vicious attacks on me (over 10 so far today, on a Sunday, even though I don't reply to him), I decided to let this one slip out. | Apr 17 17:17 |
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