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| schestowitz | Ender2070: don't let the Microsofters belittle you | Apr 18 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | They'll play the same old games | Apr 18 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Pretending a programmer only wrote some JS thingie. | Apr 18 00:19 |
| schestowitz | BTW, remember head of former OSC in UK? I work at his company now. I also work as university post-doc (don't tell the trolls as they like to flame employers too). | Apr 18 00:19 |
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| Ender2070 | Oh I know you have credentials | Apr 18 01:12 |
| Ender2070 | That's how I know they are frauds | Apr 18 01:12 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, remember head of former OSC in UK? I work at his company now. I also work as university post-doc (don't tell the trolls as they like to flame employers too). | Apr 18 07:14 |
| schestowitz | [06:43] <tessier_> Do you ever notice the server load getting rather high and maybe the server becoming temporarily unresponsive while some sort of gzip is happening? | Apr 18 07:14 |
| schestowitz | [07:14] <schestowitz> the backup job? I should probably nice it. | Apr 18 07:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/59794462951489538 | Apr 18 07:16 |
| TechrightsBot | @qu1j0t3: @schestowitz You may just have to increase the timeout in php.ini. | Apr 18 07:16 |
| schestowitz | I already have | Apr 18 07:17 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/59718386376130560 | Apr 18 07:19 |
| TechrightsBot | @verofakto: @akshatj_96 @FOSSpatents the 'engineer' doesn't know how checksums work: http://j.mp/i2aiMl & thinks Python isn't OO: http://j.mp/hTUE3p | Apr 18 07:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/59716758080200704 | Apr 18 07:20 |
| TechrightsBot | @verofakto: @akshatj_96 @FOSSpatents Keep asking, he'll claim you're a 'troll' who 'hates freedom'. That's #BoycottBoy rolls. | Apr 18 07:20 |
| schestowitz | and this is the type of people Florian hangs out with... | Apr 18 07:21 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/59717062465032192 http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/59744909892132864 | Apr 18 07:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @verofakto: @FOSSpatents @ender2070 #BoycottBoy isn't reasonable. | Apr 18 07:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @verofakto: #BoycottBoy wants to be PJ (always has), PR slog in gear, so now he's having his shill @_Goblin 'interview' him, as if. Hilarious arrogance. | Apr 18 07:21 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/59670093361188864 | Apr 18 07:21 |
| TechrightsBot | @zoobab: FossPatents not about patents anymore: http://ur1.ca/3vl5m | Apr 18 07:21 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: FOSS Patents: Korean search engines Naver and Daum file antitrust complaint over restrictions Google imposes on Android device makers .::. Size~: 66.01 KB | Apr 18 07:21 |
| schestowitz | Jus anti-Linux | Apr 18 07:21 |
| schestowitz | Says the FFII president | Apr 18 07:22 |
| schestowitz | Florian is a slogger | Apr 18 07:22 |
| cubezzz | what does Florian do? | Apr 18 07:22 |
| cubezzz | I mean what is his job? | Apr 18 07:22 |
| cubezzz | seems like he's just a mouth-piece | Apr 18 07:24 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I also run rsync overnight, almost every night at around 1am GMT | Apr 18 07:25 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Apr 18 07:25 |
| schestowitz | This is the point made by zoobab | Apr 18 07:25 |
| schestowitz | [ffii president | Apr 18 07:25 |
| schestowitz | He even attacks the FFII | Apr 18 07:25 |
| schestowitz | FSF... | Apr 18 07:25 |
| cubezzz | ah, he was a marketer | Apr 18 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Evertthing FOSS | Apr 18 07:26 |
| cubezzz | that explains a lot | Apr 18 07:26 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Apr 18 07:26 |
| schestowitz | Not a programmer | Apr 18 07:26 |
| schestowitz | He's a lobbyist | Apr 18 07:26 |
| schestowitz | meaning he spams journalists | Apr 18 07:26 |
| cubezzz | marketing closed source games | Apr 18 07:27 |
| cubezzz | well, a job's a job but... | Apr 18 07:28 |
| cubezzz | you know Canada used to make TVs and terminals? | Apr 18 07:29 |
| cubezzz | almost no one remembers Telidon | Apr 18 07:29 |
| cubezzz | it morphed into something ugly at the end though | Apr 18 07:29 |
| cubezzz | NABTS turned into WebTV for Windows :-P | Apr 18 07:30 |
| cubezzz | then WebTV became MSN TV | Apr 18 07:31 |
| cubezzz | then Rogers Interactive TV :-P | Apr 18 07:32 |
| cubezzz | heh, but here's the good news... | Apr 18 07:33 |
| cubezzz | the proprietary BIOS on MSN TV2 got hacked | Apr 18 07:33 |
| cubezzz | so the MSN TV2 player could run Linux | Apr 18 07:33 |
| cubezzz | still something to remember if you ever use Rogers | Apr 18 07:34 |
| schestowitz |  | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:23] <tessier_> Yeah. I just now got a page about the site being down again. | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:23] <tessier_> But it is up. | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:23] <tessier_> I got false alarm pages regularly. Just trying to figure out why. | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:26] <schestowitz> I have a monitor on it too, a third-party site | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:26] <schestowitz> I didn't get an alert | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | [08:26] <schestowitz> Usually it polls every 15 mins or so by pinging | Apr 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz | "Hi Roy - Is this is of interest? http://www.tadag.com There's a link to report on MS's treatment of a trusted partner with multiple NDAs." | Apr 18 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Welcome to TADAG.com .::. Size~: 0.53 KB | Apr 18 08:27 |
| schestowitz | I think we covered it 2 years ago | Apr 18 08:27 |
| schestowitz | "<a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/04/microsoft-v-i4i-oral-argument-monday-april-18.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PatentlyO+%28Dennis+Crouch%27s+Patently-O%29" title="Microsoft v. i4i Oral Argument - Monday, April 18"></a>" | Apr 18 08:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft v. i4i Oral Argument - Monday, April 18 - Patent Law Blog (Patently-O) .::. Size~: 64.25 KB | Apr 18 08:46 |
| schestowitz | "Ah - that'll teach me to follow Twitter link on your blog! Bizarre that this is STILL going on with good people inside MS trying to fix it" | Apr 18 08:46 |
| schestowitz | fix it? | Apr 18 08:46 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. | Apr 18 08:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/16/opinion/16Lichtman.html?_r=1 | Apr 18 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Apr 18 13:43 |
| MinceR | i suspect the lobbyists will strike that down | Apr 18 13:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/16/opinion/16Lichtman.html?_r=1 | Apr 18 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Apr 18 13:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they hav | Apr 18 13:47 |
| schestowitz | oops | Apr 18 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.slate.com/id/2290726/ | Apr 18 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Above the law: Why don't judicial ethics rules apply to Supreme Court justices? - By Dahlia Lithwick - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 48.74 KB | Apr 18 13:48 |
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| schestowitz | > In techbyts #40 one of your co-hosts around 25 minutes into the show | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > mentions wanting to take Windows back to the shop for a refund. I hope | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > he has registered with FFII how that went : | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110415105752529#comments | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 14:59 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Groklaw - AFUL and FFII Asking for Evidence of Difficulties Buying/Selling a Computer without Windows in EU .::. Size~: 155.93 KB | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | > http://aful.org/communiques/share-your-operating-system-bundling-tales-with-the-eu | Apr 18 14:59 |
| schestowitz | I will pass this to him via E-mail... | Apr 18 14:59 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Share your operating system bundling tales with the EU | AFUL .::. Size~: 25.46 KB | Apr 18 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | > The quick link is | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > http://ec.europa.eu/competition/forms/consumer_form_en.html | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Competition - Delivering for consumers .::. Size~: 23.62 KB | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > I know someone that bought a mac, but via a local M$ gold partner. He | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > ended up cajoled into buying Windows to run on it in a VM he never uses | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > and does not need. | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > Myself, I've not bought a machine with Windows since 1999. The last two | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > netbooks I got actually came with Linux. One was the Asus, but I lucked | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > out in that I was looking for a netbook just during the short window | Apr 18 15:28 |
| schestowitz | > that the Linux EEEs were for sale. | Apr 18 15:28 |
| Ender_nothome | I have an HP Mini 110 | Apr 18 15:52 |
| schestowitz | nice.. | Apr 18 15:53 |
| schestowitz | suse or ubuntu me? | Apr 18 15:53 |
| schestowitz | mi? | Apr 18 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall what HP called its flavour | Apr 18 15:53 |
| schestowitz | then it bought palm | Apr 18 15:54 |
| schestowitz | So now it's proprietary webos instead | Apr 18 15:54 |
| Ender_nothome | the guy had xp on it | Apr 18 17:01 |
| Ender_nothome | I got it used | Apr 18 17:01 |
| Ender_nothome | it has Jolicloud on it now | Apr 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 18 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: "A few months ago we had an article that was very negative regarding Microsoft, about half a dozen new members responded to defend MS, all posting with strong USA West coast accents. Wonder how many of them pay their taxes in Redmond?" | Apr 18 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 104.55 KB | Apr 18 17:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ "One time I had somebody create a new account, post negative comments on about 10 articles all at once, then disappeared never to be heard from again." | Apr 18 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 104.55 KB | Apr 18 17:05 |
| Ender_nothome | Yeah they stopped doing that on mine | Apr 18 17:07 |
| Ender_nothome | I started posting ip addresses on irc remember | Apr 18 17:07 |
| schestowitz | LOL look who shows up https://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/60011260204429312 | Apr 18 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot | @stonemirror: @jackschofield No, he never has. He's never even attended a major community conference. A hanger-on, at best. /cc @akshatj_96 @schestowitz | Apr 18 17:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71347373 http://identi.ca/notice/71347414 | Apr 18 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a dent? | Apr 18 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Monday, 18-Apr-11 15:27:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Seems like the guy surrendered to FLOSS. At least by his written words, it looks like. | Apr 18 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > Spotify has had an impact on lending of music at the libraries. In | Apr 18 17:34 |
| schestowitz | > short order it went from being popular to next to nothing being | Apr 18 17:34 |
| schestowitz | > borrowed. Now with the new changes to spotify, it will be interesting | Apr 18 17:34 |
| schestowitz | > to see if the lending stats bounce back. | Apr 18 17:34 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/59946261264076801 | Apr 18 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot | @jackschofield: @akshatj_96 Yes, apostasy is often a problem with ridiculous amateurish extremist groups like #techrights #boycottboy #lifeofbrian | Apr 18 18:47 |
| MinceR | perhaps they should renounce their religion | Apr 18 18:48 |
| MinceR | before their sacred company dies | Apr 18 18:48 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/60031807407652864 | Apr 18 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @FFII: @jwildeboer Sustainable software would be easy to maintain and stay relevant for a use while the environment changes | Apr 18 18:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes,, they use religious terms | Apr 18 18:49 |
| Ender_nothome | speaking of religion | Apr 18 19:28 |
| Ender_nothome | any advocate that goes far on any issue turns the thing into a cult or religion | Apr 18 19:29 |
| Ender_nothome | like the apple cult | Apr 18 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: let me put it like this | Apr 18 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Ivbe slammed Linux Foundation where suitable | Apr 18 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I've criticise FSF where suitable | Apr 18 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I also praised Florian where it's due | Apr 18 19:31 |
| schestowitz | If I adhere to any tech 'religion', it's called common sense | Apr 18 19:31 |
| schestowitz | If people disagree with me, then either I don't understand the issues, or they don't understand. That's when we debate. | Apr 18 19:31 |
| schestowitz | To counter facts is hard, which is why Florian is left shivering in his boots when he spreads Android FUD | Apr 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | And if the evidence to prove a claim is weak, then those watching can see it and fetch some grains of salt | Apr 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Religions are different | Apr 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Evidence or request for evidence is a sin | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | And faith is admired | Apr 18 19:33 |
| MinceR | it's not about going far, it's about believing and preaching patent nonsense | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | They want to believe | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Like aliens | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | The patent lawyers | Apr 18 19:33 |
| MinceR | such as Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 being simultaneously true :> | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | They have a sense of entitlement. I went to law school, paid $100,000, not I'm entitled to collect what they told me I can do with I graduate... | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | *now | Apr 18 19:33 |
| schestowitz | *when | Apr 18 19:34 |
| MinceR | or that a given book is the source of all human morality, as long as you ignore this part here, and that part there, and that part is obviously not to be taken literally, and... | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they are! | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Genesis warned about people like you! :-) | Apr 18 19:34 |
| MinceR | iirc it didn't | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe another book | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz | But same bst-selling series | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz | The World wide Bibbble | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, in Islam, the contradictions are dealt with like this: | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz | What Mu said later overrides the earlier | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz | So all the "religion of peace" crowd needs to ignore the more friendly messages and adhere to the vicious, child-molesting man's writings | Apr 18 19:36 |
| MinceR | islam was crafted more carefully, but it's still a load of bullshit | Apr 18 19:38 |
| MinceR | the "i'm the last prophet evar" was a very clever move | Apr 18 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Man, this is so poorly documented: http://www.nist.gov/itl/iad/ig/frgc.cfm | Apr 18 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Face Recognition Grand Challenge (FRGC) .::. Size~: 25.64 KB | Apr 18 19:39 |
| schestowitz | They don't even have an index for testing and training clusters | Apr 18 19:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they came later | Apr 18 19:39 |
| schestowitz | So they had more time to learn from the mistaks of prdecessors | Apr 18 19:39 |
| schestowitz | And they are quite successful | Apr 18 19:39 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Islam grows quickly because of birth encouragement, conversion impulsion, and apostasy | Apr 18 19:40 |
| schestowitz | I know religions that hardly actively encourage conversions | Apr 18 19:40 |
| schestowitz | But some of them due to racism :-) ya! The cornerstone of dogma | Apr 18 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "can't join to religion clue if not of the right DNA" | Apr 18 19:41 |
| schestowitz | RMS calls religions "brain-virus" | Apr 18 19:41 |
| schestowitz | One can think of it more like a virus that's designed in a lab to spread | Apr 18 19:42 |
| MinceR | i prefer "meme", though it's a broad term | Apr 18 19:42 |
| MinceR | The Selfish Gene is a pretty good book | Apr 18 19:42 |
| schestowitz | The scripture is like their recipe or patent | Apr 18 19:42 |
| MinceR | bbl, tv | Apr 18 19:42 |
| schestowitz | you, tv?! ok.. | Apr 18 19:42 |
| schestowitz | "A subject session is the set of all images of a person taken each time a person's biometric data is collected and consists of four controlled still images, two uncontrolled still images, and one three-dimensional image. The controlled images were taken in a studio setting, are full frontal facial images taken under two lighting conditions and with two facial expressions (smiling and neutral). The uncontrolled images were taken in | Apr 18 19:45 |
| schestowitz | varying illumination conditions; e.g., hallways, atriums, or outside." | Apr 18 19:45 |
| schestowitz | But they don't provide an index :-( | Apr 18 19:45 |
| Ender_nothome | im not talking about you schestowitz - you're reasonable | Apr 18 20:04 |
| Ender_nothome | there are some who would literally kill themselves before willingly running proprietary software | Apr 18 20:05 |
| Ender_nothome | there ARE people in the community who are communists and marxists, but its irresonsible on my part if I paint everyone with the same brush | Apr 18 20:06 |
| Ender_nothome | its really hard when people support the same things | Apr 18 20:06 |
| Ender_nothome | ppl like twitter | Apr 18 20:07 |
| Ender_nothome | theres people who buy into the superiority of code that is available to all, there are those who bought into the ideology that everything must be free | Apr 18 20:08 |
| Ender_nothome | theres people in between | Apr 18 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I use twitter | Apr 18 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I also use proprietary matlab at this moment to test a GUI part | Apr 18 20:28 |
| schestowitz | octave has the cli-equivs for it | Apr 18 20:29 |
| schestowitz | and when I formally launch my company I hope to have already done the business plan... no time for that yet.. with two jobs and all | Apr 18 20:29 |
| schestowitz | BTW, all my jobs are FOSS | Apr 18 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Always have been | Apr 18 20:30 |
| Ender_nothome | FOSS is good stuff | Apr 18 20:38 |
| Ender_nothome | FOSS, open standards and patent unencumbered formats | Apr 18 20:39 |
| Ender_nothome | +1 | Apr 18 20:39 |
| Ender_nothome | Video gaming on the other hand is where I will cave into proprietary software | Apr 18 20:47 |
| Ender_nothome | there are good FOSS games | Apr 18 20:48 |
| Ender_nothome | just nothing that compares to 3DS now :) | Apr 18 20:48 |
| Ender_nothome | in related news | Apr 18 20:50 |
| Ender_nothome | Florian does consider what they are doing an 'attack' | Apr 18 20:50 |
| Ender_nothome | http://twitter.com/#!/FOSSpatents/status/60060501215948800 | Apr 18 20:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 cc: @migueldeicaza The attack, as I understand it in context, related to #boycottboy, not you | Apr 18 20:50 |
| schestowitz | his agenda is an assault on many people's interests | Apr 18 20:54 |
| schestowitz | He harbours patenting | Apr 18 20:54 |
| schestowitz | he harms standards | Apr 18 20:54 |
| schestowitz | I.e. promoting RAND/patents | Apr 18 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Openly speaks about FOSS | Apr 18 20:54 |
| schestowitz | ./. | Apr 18 20:54 |
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