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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/60059756064276480Apr 19 07:45
TechrightsBot@ender2070: @migueldeicaza @FOSSpatents I've been nice to you Miguel and I've made it clear to #Techrights I don't care about #Mono - why attck?Apr 19 07:45
schestowitzI too am guilty of using the word "attack" spuriouslyApr 19 07:45
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71406876Apr 19 11:08
TechrightsBot@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Apr-11 09:37:55 UTC - Identi.ca: OSI President: Microsoft Florian is Spouting Nonsense (About CPTN/Microsoft-Novell Patents)  http://ur1.ca/3w13z #swpats #osi !fsf #novellApr 19 11:08
TechrightsBot-> Title: OSI President: Microsoft Florian is Spouting Nonsense (About CPTN/Microsoft-Novell Patents) | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.9 KBApr 19 11:08
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schestowitz> Is there a way to keep the nesting but ditch the javascripts?  The siteApr 19 15:13
schestowitz> is not accessible to those with NoScript running. What about moving toApr 19 15:13
schestowitz> drupal or plone?Apr 19 15:13
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:13
schestowitz> (This message is a test of enigmail on kubuntu.  I'm verifying the theApr 19 15:13
schestowitz> dual boot configurations)Apr 19 15:13
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:13
schestowitz> Nesting is important and it would be nice if it worked more like inApr 19 15:13
schestowitz> other forums.Apr 19 15:13
schestowitzHi,Apr 19 15:13
schestowitzNesting is indeed very important, which is why I added it even nefore wordpress suported it. I used a Chinese plugin to achieve this and now I'm locked in. My comment threads are locked into it. If I collapse the threads the comments will cease to make sense to a reader.Apr 19 15:13
schestowitzComments are visible without JavaScript, unlike plugins like disqus. It's participation that requires them and we have no JS spyware like Google in the site.Apr 19 15:14
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schestowitz> What about leaving the existing threads as they are and using aApr 19 15:34
schestowitz> different plugin for the new threads?Apr 19 15:34
schestowitzwordpress does not permit this type of split. The rendering of pages is done by a common engine and templates.Apr 19 15:34
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/RuiSeabra/statuses/60275729866309632Apr 19 15:35
TechrightsBot@RuiSeabra: @clacke bad example. #Apple is on a war against #Gpl, specially version 3 particularly due to #swpatApr 19 15:35
schestowitzThat means gplv3 is awesome!Apr 19 15:35
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schestowitz>> wordpress does not permit this type of split. The rendering of pages isApr 19 15:49
schestowitz>> done by a common engine and templates.Apr 19 15:49
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:49
schestowitz> Ouch.  The pain of legacy systems.Apr 19 15:49
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:49
schestowitz> What about freezing the old ones?  Wget could be run to make a staticApr 19 15:49
schestowitz> snapshot of the old pages.  Then the new ones could have a better engineApr 19 15:49
schestowitz> or plugin.Apr 19 15:49
schestowitzIt would not be practical due to cross-refs.Apr 19 15:49
schestowitz>> It would not be practical due to cross-refs.Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> Ok.  Sorry for all the hot air.Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> What about a second instance of word press in a virtual host or, worse,Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> a VM like qemu?Apr 19 15:57
schestowitzOverkill for comments. Most of our activity is in IRC now, comments almost phased out/deprecated.Apr 19 15:57
schestowitz> That's a very small group in IRC.Apr 19 17:30
schestowitz> Apr 19 17:30
schestowitz> I realize it's a burden on you. It would be nice to have a workableApr 19 17:30
schestowitz> comments section toApr 19 17:30
schestowitz> 1) start getting comments again.Apr 19 17:30
schestowitz> 2) bring in some of the people from GroklawApr 19 17:30
Ender_nothomea vm?Apr 19 18:09
Ender_nothomelolApr 19 18:09
Ender_nothomechroot jails would sufficeApr 19 18:09
schestowitzyeahApr 19 18:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/60357686637764608Apr 19 18:10
TechrightsBot@m4n1sh: @directhex Yes. I tried once, but nothing can be done. The only person who said "Let us listen to what he says" on #techrights was sebsebsebApr 19 18:10
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