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schestowitz> Don't worry. Truth can be hidden. That is what happened in the pastApr 11 07:54
schestowitz> and most of the world knows. I will stand for it.Apr 11 07:54
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: ^ said to me in the context of what the US did to South AmericaApr 11 07:54
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: did and is still doing, on a more subtle scaleApr 11 13:16
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70820438Apr 11 14:13
TechrightsBot-sc@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 13:07:33 UTC - Identi.ca: !KDE SC 4.6.2 Is Available for !Ubuntu and !Fedora Users http://ur1.ca/3tt9j JIT for disgruntled #unity and #gnome3 users?Apr 11 14:13
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: KDE SC 4.6.2 Is Available for Ubuntu and Fedora Users - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.21 KBApr 11 14:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70820391Apr 11 14:13
TechrightsBot-sc@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 13:06:02 UTC - Identi.ca: The Birth of Linux: How !Linux Got Started  http://ur1.ca/3stkj @linuxfoundation site acknowledges !gnu tooApr 11 14:13
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Apr 11 16:05
schestowitz> Apr 11 16:05
schestowitz> FWIW, I've given a try at posting a wikibook.  The topic is OpenSSH.Apr 11 16:05
schestowitz> There have been negligable amount of changes since I set it up.  Is itApr 11 16:05
schestowitz> that good, or that ignored?Apr 11 16:05
schestowitz> Apr 11 16:05
schestowitz> On the side, now that PJ is closing up Groklaw, you might explain whatApr 11 16:05
schestowitz> Techrights is about and invite people over.Apr 11 16:05
schestowitzI guess I should do thatApr 11 16:05
schestowitzLOLApr 11 19:20
schestowitz> Hi* *Roy*,*Apr 11 19:20
schestowitz> Apr 11 19:20
schestowitz> I just wanted to follow up with you. I hope you are doing well!  JustApr 11 19:20
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schestowitz> Do you also have 10 minutes for a quick chat?  Alan's available AprilApr 11 19:21
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schestowitz> Thanks,Apr 11 19:21
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schestowitz.NET?Apr 11 19:21
schestowitzMe?Apr 11 19:21
schestowitzSpammersApr 11 19:21
MinceRmaybe your enemies signed you up for a few spam listsApr 11 19:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/57509211294281729Apr 11 19:24
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @sgreenironspeed  the fact that you spam me with .NET stuff shows that your PR operations at #IronSpeed are poorly researched.Apr 11 19:24
schestowitzthat ought to get the employer's attentionApr 11 19:24
MinceR:>Apr 11 19:25
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schestowitzFlorian still trolling usApr 11 22:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57483524227338240Apr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto TR: "no distinction between the articles which were based in expertise and those based on naive speculation" http://bit.ly/gx69w0Apr 11 22:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57504968457981953Apr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Eulogy for Groklaw - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 46.47 KBApr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @bbyfield Not a minor piece -- the best one on the subject. I quoted from it extensively on LWN: http://lwn.net/Articles/437880/Apr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Bruce Byfield's Groklaw eulogy (LinuxProMagazine) makes very good points [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.53 KBApr 11 22:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57504099180089345Apr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: http://lwn.net/Articles/437916/ "all those people can now head over to boycott-novell and continue to harass the productive members [...]"Apr 11 22:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Overdue [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.8 KBApr 11 22:53
schestowitzThese are his last 3 tweetsApr 11 22:53
schestowitzAll about usApr 11 22:53
schestowitzObsessed with defaming us, stillApr 11 22:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57153664233652224Apr 11 22:57
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto you mean it's like promoting Mono to Dr. Roy ;-)Apr 11 22:57
schestowitzchatting to more Microsoft MVPs:Apr 11 22:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57378784306925568Apr 11 22:57
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto This is great. I RT'd it.Apr 11 22:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/johnobeto/status/57378460334690304Apr 11 22:57
TechrightsBot-sc@johnobeto: That great discombobulator of patent facts, Groklaw, exits this reality to return to the bizzaro world from whence it came /v @FOSSpatentsApr 11 22:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57379745192615936Apr 11 22:58
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto Something worth doing is worth doing right :-) And what did the /v stand for? Just a typo for "/c"?Apr 11 22:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57381573816885248Apr 11 22:58
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto Got it, thanks. Thats the only thing that was unclear in your quote, which was so like classical literature :-)Apr 11 22:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57382378758352896Apr 11 22:58
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto Thx. I try hard to provide reasonable analysis even at the risk of being the messenger that some try to shoot for it.Apr 11 22:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57148811113537536Apr 11 22:59
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2428123 then just search for boycott or for techrights :-)Apr 11 22:59
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Hacker News | Bittersweet news from Groklaw: mission accomplished, signing off .::. Size~: 80.99 KBApr 11 22:59
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57165410109374464Apr 11 22:59
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @spaetz cc: @schestowitz The tool may struggle with English-as-a-second-language writers. In Groklaw's case there are also punctuation diffsApr 11 22:59
schestowitzand many more...Apr 11 22:59
schestowitzI guess it's not too bad as he only advertises usApr 11 22:59
schestowitzNovell employee smears groklaw too: http://lwn.net/Articles/437779/Apr 11 23:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw shutting down in May [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 10.21 KBApr 11 23:01
schestowitzANd us...Apr 11 23:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57308293168762880Apr 11 23:01
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto http://lwn.net/Articles/437779/ "the monkeys at ..."Apr 11 23:01
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Groklaw shutting down in May [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 10.21 KBApr 11 23:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57309719446036480Apr 11 23:02
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto Looks like somebody's got a huge reputation problem. One day he'll apply for a job and they'll google up that assessment :-)Apr 11 23:02
schestowitzLoom who's talking :-)Apr 11 23:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57329983068176384Apr 11 23:02
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer cc: @spaetz One of my diagrams was used in an important speech at last week's Open Source Think Tank, I learned.Apr 11 23:02
schestowitzRun and sponsored by MicrosoftApr 11 23:02
schestowitzTypicalApr 11 23:02
schestowitzAnd he RTs this rubbish: http://twitter.com/aristippus303/status/57371740459896832Apr 11 23:03
TechrightsBot-sc@aristippus303: @jlundstocholm @al3xbrown a sad day for you, funding has been ceased for Groklaw, er, I mean PJ has decided to stop.Apr 11 23:03
schestowitzMicrosoft lobbyistsApr 11 23:03
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57375623651401728Apr 11 23:03
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: Dozens of Groklaw users show they'll miss that reality distortion field, but nobody can state a raison d'être for that site. It's game over.Apr 11 23:03
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57414027936141312Apr 11 23:04
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: North Carolina website points out Groklaw was close to Red Hat http://wraltechwire.com/9418199 Just like Red Hat is close to IBM.Apr 11 23:04
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Linux defender Groklaw shuts down - in victory :: The Skinny  at WRAL Tech Wire .::. Size~: 22.88 KBApr 11 23:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57319857145913344Apr 11 23:05
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @Parabrahm Over time there will be more and more people in the open source community who will take a pragmatic perspective. But takes time.Apr 11 23:05
schestowitzLOLApr 11 23:05
schestowitzpro-swpatsApr 11 23:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57293180307124224Apr 11 23:05
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @Parabrahm One can rule out Novell at least in recent years when Groklaw was anti-Mono.Apr 11 23:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57156103837982720Apr 11 23:06
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto Unfortunately @schestowitz is inconsistent. But I believe he exists. Unlike "PJ", which text analysis tools say is not 1 person.Apr 11 23:06
schestowitz"believe"Apr 11 23:06
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57155280139583488Apr 11 23:06
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: Anyone can easily verify with text analysis tools that Groklaw's articles were written by different persons: http://lwn.net/Articles/437741/Apr 11 23:06
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: It was fun... [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 12.54 KBApr 11 23:06
schestowitzNow he RTs anti-Android FUD from BottApr 11 23:06
schestowitzHe quit pretending to be pro-LinuxApr 11 23:07
schestowitzAnd RTs this: http://twitter.com/regvulture/status/57526381730480128Apr 11 23:07
TechrightsBot-sc@regvulture: Microsoft accuses Google of misleading feds over app security: Google denies claims of untruth. Microsoft has accuse… http://reg.cx/1NCqApr 11 23:07
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Microsoft accuses Google of misleading feds over app security • Channel Register .::. Size~: 24 KBApr 11 23:07
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57533669019107328Apr 11 23:07
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @edbott Thanks, that sounds very plausible. I'm stunned they did this in the first place.Apr 11 23:07
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57533881070518272Apr 11 23:07
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto Didn't know he hates Byfield. Since Roy is just too unreasonable, his traffic won't even benefit from Groklaw's demise.Apr 11 23:07
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/verofakto/status/57527956351885312Apr 11 23:08
TechrightsBot-sc@verofakto: @FOSSpatents Ouch. You know #BoycottBoy _hates_ Byfield right? That goes way back.Apr 11 23:08
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57534864974544896Apr 11 23:08
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto LOL site:techrights.org byfield -- 1,190 results. "den of paranoia" is a highly diplomatic euphemism for #TechRights.Apr 11 23:08
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57535199059259392Apr 11 23:08
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto Paranoia would be like Roy waking up in the middle of the night, bathed in sweat, thinking he's surrounded by lots of #mobbyists.Apr 11 23:08
schestowitzStill obsessedApr 11 23:08
schestowitzThat's all he tweets aboutApr 11 23:08
schestowitzQuotes from Microsoft MVP: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57536789853900800Apr 11 23:09
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto I have to start building a collection with quotes from you :-)Apr 11 23:09
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57538113974710272Apr 11 23:09
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto Byfield's article shows how hard it is to understand why BN is as crazy as it is most of the time. It's just not logical.Apr 11 23:09
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57542898413080576Apr 11 23:09
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer This is another example of things that authors have to work out with that publishing company. Not Maureen's fault AFAICS.Apr 11 23:09
schestowitzI guess he only brings attention to usApr 11 23:09
schestowitzNot all that productive for him...Apr 11 23:09
schestowitzAnd he only calls for more troubleApr 11 23:09
MinceR:>Apr 11 23:15
schestowitzMinceR: he's doing it for attention: http://lwn.net/Articles/437724/Apr 11 23:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw shutting down in May [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 18.08 KBApr 11 23:18
schestowitzAnd for moneyApr 11 23:18
schestowitzCause he is paid to cause troubleApr 11 23:18

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