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| Ender2070 | my cat said that | Apr 13 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I must be thirsty | Apr 13 00:41 |
| schestowitz | *It must be thirsty | Apr 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | > (BTW, what is the link to the comment from Updegrioe?) | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | Private mails. | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > How about approaching PJ directly or else posting the invite on another | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > forum, such as FreeSoftware Daily. The invite should describe the | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > partial overlap between TechRights and Groklaw. | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > There is a lot of unfinished business that will still be unfinished by | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > May 16th, not counting Novell and SCO. There is the odious task of | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > transcription of "Comes v Microsoft" exhibits. There is the Sony class | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | > action over OtherOS and probably other things. | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | You are right. But should we not wait until mid May before inviting people who leave GL? | Apr 13 07:39 |
| schestowitz | >>> How about approaching PJ directly or else posting the invite on another | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> forum, such as FreeSoftware Daily. The invite should describe the | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> partial overlap between TechRights and Groklaw. | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> There is a lot of unfinished business that will still be unfinished by | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> May 16th, not counting Novell and SCO. There is the odious task of | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> transcription of "Comes v Microsoft" exhibits. There is the Sony class | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >>> action over OtherOS and probably other things. | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >> | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >> You are right. But should we not wait until mid May before inviting | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | >> people who leave GL? | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > No. We should not wait, but should make the invite again on May 16th. | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | OK, I shall do that then. | Apr 13 07:45 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/57924400757997568 | Apr 13 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @FOSSpatents yeah, 'moderate' and 'techrights' generally do not belong on the same sentence, unless we're talking about heartburn. | Apr 13 07:48 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/statuses/57979881950167041 | Apr 13 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz "Ubuntu OS better than Linux?" er?...please rephrase that :D | Apr 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/statuses/58024206276890624 http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/57941909745844224 | Apr 13 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Deprogrammer9: @schestowitz those help GNU to enter the minds of children. | Apr 13 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @schestowitz: "Mummy, what's a gnu?" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/iXyoA.png | Apr 13 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Apr 13 07:49 |
| schestowitz | > Do you have contacts at Linux Format? | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxformat.com/ | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 13 07:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linux Format | The #1 source for Linux .::. Size~: 34.31 KB | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > It's in the UK. It would be nice to have a retrospective on Groklaw and | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | > how it helped the FLOSS community during 8 years. | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'll let them know. | Apr 13 07:50 |
| schestowitz | I've been thinking about it. I cannot write a post that calls for people to leave a sure that's still running. That needs to be a guest post from a TR member who is also a GL member (more so than I have been). | Apr 13 08:08 |
| schestowitz | > I'll think about what needs to be said. I'm not much for writing long | Apr 13 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > posts of more than a paragraph or two. | Apr 13 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 13 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > I've been reading Groklaw since it's first days, but didn't register | Apr 13 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > till later. Despite that, most of the legal aspects and insights are | Apr 13 08:51 |
| schestowitz | > over my head and I've made rather few posts there over the years. | Apr 13 08:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70923676 | Apr 13 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Apr-11 07:40:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Back when website designer was always a job :) | Apr 13 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > Andy's mail was stamped 2008. Was there a question of PJ continuing | Apr 13 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > even then? | Apr 13 09:23 |
| schestowitz | Yes, repeatedly. | Apr 13 09:23 |
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| roy_ | Florian still obsessed all night... | Apr 13 10:38 |
| roy_ | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57918004113047552 | Apr 13 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto @directhex I think so. But in any field of endeavor, people might just be uneasy about his mental condition when they read TR. | Apr 13 10:38 |
| roy_ | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57918774984183808 | Apr 13 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto @directhex Seriously, none of us would want to employ a maniac who's obsessed and writes 13,000 posts to fight for crazy ideas. | Apr 13 10:38 |
| roy_ | LOL, now they try to imply drug use | Apr 13 10:39 |
| roy_ | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57920254357159936 http://twitter.com/verofakto/status/57919389932068864 | Apr 13 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto @directhex Yes, this will make people think very hard about who they're dealing with. It even raises the question of drugs. | Apr 13 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @FOSSpatents @directhex I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking of that when his reign of [t]error started. But eventually he'll regret it. | Apr 13 10:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57922632007434241 | Apr 13 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto If he had positioned TR at least as a moderately reasonable site, he could now benefit from the fact that Groklaw is finished. | Apr 13 10:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/57942931096604672 | Apr 13 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FFII: Business as usual? "which company does not make [unfounded claims] in the context of a lawsuit?" http://bit.ly/e4jHXV #sco #groklaw | Apr 13 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Apr 13 10:40 |
| schestowitz | He now refers to PJ as "Him" LOL | Apr 13 10:40 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58016286491418624 | Apr 13 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto I don't always agree with him. For someone who uses a GNUbies.org email address his efforts to do objective coverage are amazing. | Apr 13 10:40 |
| MinceR | "don't always" is kind of an understatement | Apr 13 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 13 10:43 |
| schestowitz | He's "Reasonable" | Apr 13 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Like RAND | Apr 13 10:43 |
| oiaohm | Reasonable is a nice highly grey term. | Apr 13 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Usually when you do something bad or not so good | Apr 13 14:05 |
| schestowitz | And then you say you can reason to justify it | Apr 13 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Like, "Don't get me wrong" | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "With all due respect" | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "OK, look..... [pause]" | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Watch out for these terms | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz | And other people have told me about similar terms their eyes opened up to, but I can't remember them to name offhand | Apr 13 14:06 |
| schestowitz | We had this sort of discussion in IRC, IIRC | Apr 13 14:07 |
| schestowitz | I think Mr. Forbes brought it up at one stage, too | Apr 13 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58112307955384320 | Apr 13 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto @directhex Roy is certainly more forthcoming than the avatar named "PJ" was and less loyal to IBM/GOOG/RHT, but unsophisticated. | Apr 13 17:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 13 17:37 |
| MinceR | now he thinks you're PJ? | Apr 13 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I actually would find that flattering | Apr 13 18:11 |
| schestowitz | But I think she's twice my age | Apr 13 18:11 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58114502062911488 | Apr 13 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex TR is too crazy a blog to be an alternative to the GL kind of crowd. Roy can't feed them with pseudolegal B.S. the way "PJ" did. | Apr 13 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Making friends with mono booster | Apr 13 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/status/58120700455690240 | Apr 13 18:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: @FOSSpatents other than having a name attached, and a different focus, how does her "pseudolegal B.S." differ from your own? | Apr 13 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58121461189181440 | Apr 13 18:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex Key differences include but are not limited to: (1) I focus on broad strategic lines and key developments instead of minor (+) | Apr 13 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58121734875914240 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58122004120862720 | Apr 13 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex: cont: procedural detail that won't realistically change the outcome (2) I look at legal developments but provide holistic (+) | Apr 13 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex cont: analysis, which "PJ" wasn't capable of for lack of knowing about business and technology and direct interactions with (+) | Apr 13 18:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58122336238436352 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58122705718878208 | Apr 13 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex cont: decision-making processes. (3) Outside of the SCO context, GL never became a useful resource to legal professionals. (+) | Apr 13 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex cont: (4) Legal reporters for top-tier media like law.com and Bloomberg have recently quoted me on such issues. Just 4 aspects. | Apr 13 18:36 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/status/58128433376534528 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58128747840286720 | Apr 13 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: @FOSSpatents being quoted doesn't make you right, though. | Apr 13 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @directhex It's not proof of being right, but it is an indication if highly specialized, in some cases legally educated reporters do so. | Apr 13 18:37 |
| schestowitz | It makes him a spammer | Apr 13 18:37 |
| schestowitz | he leans on many journos until a tiny number pays attention | Apr 13 18:37 |
| schestowitz | LOL more Android FUD now: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/rims-playbook-tablet-raises-android-ip.html | Apr 13 18:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: FOSS Patents: RIM's PlayBook tablet raises Android IP questions .::. Size~: 71.02 KB | Apr 13 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70948304 | Apr 13 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stefan (faither)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Apr-11 17:16:30 UTC - Identi.ca: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi @schestowitz @openbytes @thistleweb | Apr 13 18:41 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 13 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Hello :-) | Apr 13 21:11 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so much for TV night | Apr 13 22:48 |
| schestowitz | really? | Apr 13 22:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah my older brother is going to stay the night | Apr 13 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | which means in there | Apr 13 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Apr 13 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see.. | Apr 13 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Any time/chance for you to be in Manchester? | Apr 13 22:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh why? | Apr 13 23:15 |
| schestowitz | I can take you around here and show you the city | Apr 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | Why do you want me to go to Manchester? | Apr 13 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | That's quite far away from here and so on | Apr 13 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I know, but if you're ever around... | Apr 13 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: very unlikely to go to Manchester any time soon | Apr 13 23:46 |
| schestowitz | ok, well... | Apr 13 23:47 |
| schestowitz | You're welcome here | Apr 13 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: probably better to come down to my area, if you want to meet | Apr 13 23:50 |
| schestowitz | OK, I might. | Apr 13 23:50 |
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