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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/59718386376130560Apr 18 07:17
TechrightsBot-sc@verofakto: @akshatj_96 @FOSSpatents the 'engineer' doesn't know how checksums work: http://j.mp/i2aiMl & thinks Python isn't OO: http://j.mp/hTUE3pApr 18 07:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59907104743505921Apr 18 12:43
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Look at this: https://launchpad.net/dmedia/+topcontributors @akshatj_96 contributes to true Free Software, unlike you imposter.Apr 18 12:43
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schestowitz"@FOSSpatents your lies about me are being noticed. I ignore you. In my 20s I have still written far more code than you ever had. #mobbyists"Apr 18 12:45
oiaohmschestowitz: Boy he don't know your history.Apr 18 12:50
schestowitzMore lies: http://twitter.com/akshatj_96/statuses/59872919312011264Apr 18 12:52
TechrightsBot-sc@akshatj_96: @jackschofield But Roy and his minions hate Linus #boycottboy #techspamApr 18 12:52
schestowitzMe? HATE LINUS?!?!!Apr 18 12:52
schestowitzLOLApr 18 12:52
schestowitzThe mono/Microsoft lads incite this 14 y-o against me http://twitter.com/akshatj_96/statuses/59894566525997056Apr 18 12:53
TechrightsBot-sc@akshatj_96: @FOSSpatents @verofakto This guy is crazier than I thought, he certainly needs medication #boycottboyApr 18 12:53
schestowitzI'd just ignoreApr 18 12:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59899937353240577Apr 18 12:54
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @verofakto @akshatj_96 A #boycottboy-minded guy did this moronic post on Groklaw http://bit.ly/dEDvBb see the last part and "PJ"'s reactionApr 18 12:54
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 17.92 KBApr 18 12:54
schestowitzHe's gonna keep harassing and incitingApr 18 12:54
schestowitzLike he did to GLApr 18 12:54
schestowitzHere is today's incitation:Apr 18 12:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59890963128135680Apr 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 @verofakto Another crazy thing in the chat about Python is he believes "imperative" and "object-oriented" is "multi-paradigm".Apr 18 12:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59891100177014784Apr 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 @verofakto Most object-oriented programming is done with imperative programming languages.Apr 18 12:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59896470865846272 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59903326917107713Apr 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 @verofakto That's also reflected by today's "Losing the battle against..." post: *he* talks about fake developers LOLApr 18 12:55
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 If you have patents of your own, you can assert them against aggressors who have infringing products/services on the market.Apr 18 12:55
schestowitzHis agenda is clear...Apr 18 12:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59903429836939264Apr 18 12:56
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 Against trolls you need prior art. Patents can serve as prior art, but timestamped open source publication can also work.Apr 18 12:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59903760301961216Apr 18 12:56
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @akshatj_96 Concerning OIN, I did seveal blog posts about it last year. I haven't seen any credible OIN success story thus far. Just myths.Apr 18 12:56
schestowitzanti-OIN, pro-patentingApr 18 12:56
oiaohmAll mono people need to do is read the wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29#Mono_and_Microsoft.27s_patentsApr 18 12:57
oiaohmTo see the pit of hell error.Apr 18 12:57
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Mono (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 152.43 KBApr 18 12:57
MinceRthey'll edit it then :>Apr 18 12:58
oiaohmNo MinceRApr 18 12:58
oiaohmThey have tried.Apr 18 12:58
oiaohmBasically it shows how dumb the mono people are.Apr 18 12:59
oiaohmThey have not read even the most basic document coverage on the topic.Apr 18 13:00
schestowitz"FFII: RT @JensvandenBrink: Preparing my arguments for Wednesday's hearing in Nadia Plesner vs Louis Vuitton - artistic freedom and free speech ..."Apr 18 13:03
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/JensvandenBrink/status/59913653817851904Apr 18 13:03
TechrightsBot-sc@JensvandenBrink: Preparing my arguments for Wednesday's hearing in Nadia Plesner vs Louis Vuitton - artistic freedom and free speech vs IP #inApr 18 13:03
schestowitzoiaohm: religions don't thinkApr 18 13:03
schestowitzThey follow leaders like Judas de IcazaApr 18 13:03
schestowitz.NET is the Mecca for themApr 18 13:04
oiaohmschestowitz: Really we need to get savage with them.Apr 18 13:04
MinceR?Apr 18 13:05
oiaohmMinceR: I have currently stopped really argueing with the mono people instead point them to the wikipedia or equal.Apr 18 13:05
oiaohmThat way they cannot use  the arguement you are anti .netApr 18 13:05
schestowitzHehApr 18 13:06
schestowitzanti-MonoApr 18 13:06
schestowitzThat's like saying "you're anti-<nationality>"Apr 18 13:07
schestowitzDoesn't address the issueApr 18 13:07
MinceRoiaohm: oh.Apr 18 13:07
MinceRmakes senseApr 18 13:07
MinceRthough i _am_ anti-.net, with good reasons. :>Apr 18 13:07
MinceRsuch as .net/mono being a patent trap and being an unusable pile of crapApr 18 13:08
oiaohmMinceR: Really I just like watching them break.Apr 18 13:11
oiaohmMono is basically not defendable.Apr 18 13:11
oiaohmParticularly when they are forced to attempt to pick appart correctly written documents.Apr 18 13:11
MinceRreligious people tend to not realize that their position is not defendable, thoughApr 18 13:11
oiaohmUntil they are forced to argue with facts.Apr 18 13:12
oiaohmPerson to person arguement never works.Apr 18 13:12
schestowitz"@akshatj_96 Microsoft Florian is lying to you about me, as he so often does. He incites using lies. I *don't* hate Linus. Total lie!"Apr 18 13:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59947690238287873Apr 18 13:16
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz then your code must all be closed source. The "free" stuff on your homepage amounts to almost nothing.Apr 18 13:16
schestowitzLuieApr 18 13:16
schestowitzLieApr 18 13:16
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents you're lying again"Apr 18 13:17
oiaohmmathlab has a lot of open source stuff of yours.  schestowitz  problem of being young and stupid.Apr 18 13:20
oiaohmYears later you learn you should never have done taht.Apr 18 13:20
oiaohmHey if you had not done that I would not know that you were 100 percent human.  schestowitzApr 18 13:20
schestowitzoiaohm: octave. not matlabApr 18 13:22
schestowitzI sometimes add matlab bits, but the core I develop is in actaveApr 18 13:22
schestowitzpeople whom I work with sometimes ask for GUIs tooApr 18 13:22
schestowitzand he can't miss that on the siteApr 18 13:22
oiaohmschestowitz: I mean when you were starting out.Apr 18 13:24
oiaohmschestowitz: Long time back in history.Apr 18 13:24
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/wray-herbert/how-to-catch-a-liar-cogni_b_844962.htmlApr 18 13:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Wray Herbert: How to Catch a Liar: The Cognitive Clues to Deceit .::. Size~: 291.17 KBApr 18 13:35
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/local/another-air-traffic-controllers-falls-asleep-faa-says/2011/04/16/AFhHEXpD_story.htmlApr 18 13:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: FAA says another air traffic controller fell asleep, plans to alter scheduling - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 81.55 KBApr 18 13:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59957599252127744Apr 18 13:50
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I'm not lying -- you're totally overstating your programming work. Show me just one reasonably sophisticated program you wrote.Apr 18 13:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59957760799944706Apr 18 13:50
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz My technical background is beyond doubt. At age 15 I wrote articles for computer mags incl on advanced assembly prog techniquesApr 18 13:50
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents so show me your code."Apr 18 13:50
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents computer mags are not programming mags. And at that age (15) I was already winning awards of significance and also programming."Apr 18 13:52
schestowitzFlorian wants to have a cockfightApr 18 13:52
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents carry on lying and relying on people not checking the facts; I guess all this code I wrote since 12PM today doesn't exist."Apr 18 13:54
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents you also pretend I don't write code of significance while I invent numerical methods. code them up, present at IEEE confs"Apr 18 13:55
schestowitzWhy do I even bother responding to the person who claims Pam does not existApr 18 13:59
schestowitzNow he pretends my work does not exist even though it's organised online with all the documemntation and codeApr 18 14:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59965735396589570Apr 18 14:17
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In any one of the books I wrote on computer programming (10 of my 12 computer books) I published more code than your homepage.Apr 18 14:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59965921946640384Apr 18 14:17
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The magazines I wrote for in the 80's were mostly about programming topics. So were 10 of my 12 computer books.Apr 18 14:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59966055753318400Apr 18 14:18
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Except for what was in my articles and books, my code has always been closed source. You say yours is FOSS, so show it, please.Apr 18 14:18
schestowitzStill innuendoApr 18 14:18
oiaohmInteresting comment useable infact.  schestowitzApr 18 14:19
oiaohmif all his code has been closed source what gives him the right to talk about open source.Apr 18 14:19
schestowitznothing, but..Apr 18 14:19
schestowitzI also don't know of his booksApr 18 14:19
schestowitzIf it was true (maybe he wrote one section in some), his code would be oublicApr 18 14:20
schestowitzBut it's notApr 18 14:20
oiaohmJust because source code is in books does not mean that is under a true open source license.Apr 18 14:20
oiaohmBasically his comments make me very sus.Apr 18 14:22
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents you claim you published books abut programming but you cannot show me published code. It figures."Apr 18 14:26
oiaohmhttp://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/authors/13374  Its not like finding your stuff at least fragments is not hard.  schestowitzApr 18 14:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: MATLAB Central - Author - Roy Schestowitz .::. Size~: 40.56 KBApr 18 14:27
schestowitzthese are just code sampleApr 18 14:29
schestowitzDerived from parts of my programsApr 18 14:29
schestowitzThat's old stuff, I have newer stuff for octaveApr 18 14:30
schestowitzthe matlab central stuff got about 60000 download in 2004-2006Apr 18 14:30
schestowitznow it's ancient in computing termsApr 18 14:30
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oiaohmschestowitz: I know but my point is that was first page google for me with your name.Apr 18 14:34
oiaohmschestowitz: so why can he not find any.Apr 18 14:35
oiaohmUnless he is not looking.Apr 18 14:35
schestowitzhe speaks to his choir (Microsoft)Apr 18 14:36
schestowitzTrying to portray me as some clueless personApr 18 14:36
schestowitzAnd with PJ he pretends it's not a personApr 18 14:36
schestowitzIt's the old tactics intended to discourage quoting GLApr 18 14:36
schestowitzGroklaw did more to fight back against themApr 18 14:36
schestowitzBut also, Groklaw didn't touch controversial issues like Mono until last yarApr 18 14:36
schestowitzThat's where some faux foss people like de icaza started attacking groklawApr 18 14:37
schestowitzEven the opensuse community managerApr 18 14:37
schestowitzas she wrote the truth about bylawsApr 18 14:37
schestowitzTo PJ it's a diplomatic issueApr 18 14:37
oiaohmde icaza just wants to play head in sand.Apr 18 14:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59972244511789056Apr 18 14:38
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz C64 Wiki page with list of books I wrote: http://www.c64-wiki.de/index.php/Florian_M%C3%BCller (plus I wrote 2 on PC topics)Apr 18 14:38
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Florian Müller – C64-Wiki .::. Size~: 20.68 KBApr 18 14:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59973824661295104 "@FOSSpatents these are not projects are you know it. You use misdirection to deceive people. I am done chatting with liars like you."Apr 18 14:39
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The stuff on http://schestowitz.com/util.htm is just too short and simple to be taken seriously. That's the problem.Apr 18 14:39
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Roy Schestowitz - Utilities .::. Size~: 13.57 KBApr 18 14:39
schestowitzFlorian the liar...Apr 18 14:44
schestowitzThis guy is amazing. Just as he pretends "PJ" is some legal department somewhere he now pretends (to knowingly deceive) that some hacks and scripts I wrote are actually my software projects and he spreads this lie/distortion/illusion to people in Twitter whom he incites against me. Defamation is all he has left.Apr 18 14:46
oiaohmSo he is that Florian Apr 18 14:49
oiaohmThe one I got my assed ripped off for copying a section from a book without a declared copyright.Apr 18 14:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71341275Apr 18 14:50
TechrightsBot-sc@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 18-Apr-11 13:48:55 UTC - Identi.ca: #mobbyists have new defamation tricks - lies by omission. Ppl who know me are aware of projects I published. Florian is a pathological liar.Apr 18 14:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/59972609214922753Apr 18 14:51
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @FOSSpatents You shut your eyes and pretend you don't see it.. Just like you pretend Pam does not exist. You are a snake, wunderkindApr 18 14:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/59976996272340993Apr 18 14:52
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: Today I implement novel masking algorithms for image residual prior to PCA model construction. What are #mobbyists implementing today?Apr 18 14:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59974737413144576Apr 18 14:52
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz  Then show me the real stuff. AART ist just scripting stuff for mathematics software. Show me some stuff executable on its own.Apr 18 14:52
schestowitzLOLApr 18 14:52
schestowitzSee how he's ignoring programs?Apr 18 14:52
oiaohmschestowitz: what is you DR in.Apr 18 14:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/59975086047891456Apr 18 14:53
TechrightsBot-sc@janstedehouder: @schestowitz You mean this then http://schestowitz.com/Projects/AART/? cc @FOSSpatentsApr 18 14:53
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: AART: Autonomous Appearance-based Registration Test-bed .::. Size~: 12.78 KBApr 18 14:53
schestowitzoiaohm: medical biophysicalApr 18 14:53
schestowitzoiaohm: medical biophysicsApr 18 14:53
oiaohmThough so.Apr 18 14:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59975518153486336Apr 18 14:54
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @janstedehouder cc: @schestowitz AFAICS that's a set of scripting stuff for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATHLAB - not directly executableApr 18 14:54
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: MATHLAB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 21.54 KBApr 18 14:54
schestowitzthese are run with gnu octaveApr 18 14:54
oiaohmNot all coders have to produce executables.Apr 18 14:54
schestowitzevery program depends on somethingApr 18 14:54
schestowitzlike libc, gtk, etcApr 18 14:54
schestowitzthe executables are linked to libsApr 18 14:54
schestowitzSo they too are dependent on the system they get compiled tooApr 18 14:55
oiaohmweb development plaforms based in javascriptApr 18 14:55
schestowitzSo they too are dependent on the system they get compiled toApr 18 14:55
schestowitzUnless it's something like Java with then virtual environmentApr 18 14:55
schestowitzand then you can say it doesn't run on its ownApr 18 14:55
schestowitzdalvik/icedteas/java whatever..Apr 18 14:55
schestowitzSo based on this definition, there are no android appsApr 18 14:55
schestowitzBut anyway, I said I'd stop feeding himApr 18 14:55
schestowitzit's endlessApr 18 14:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59977156603813891Apr 18 14:57
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz If this is a Free Software project, I'm sure you can point to its source and to a contributor list including you. Where is it?Apr 18 14:57
schestowitzuploaded later on when it's readyApr 18 14:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/59977578672431104Apr 18 14:57
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Don't call me a liar. Send the URL of just 1 significant project you contributed to and which lists you as a contributor.Apr 18 14:57
schestowitzI'm ignoring him again. I avoided him for weeks and it's not resolved by speaking backApr 18 14:58
schestowitzFeel free to reply to him..Apr 18 14:58
oiaohmBasically he is a twitt.Apr 18 14:58
oiaohmHis books have caused students trouble Apr 18 14:58
oiaohmAfter my error his books got burnt from my school library.Apr 18 14:59
schestowitzreally?Apr 18 14:59
schestowitzYou saw books from him?Apr 18 14:59
oiaohmyep.Apr 18 14:59
schestowitzLOLApr 18 14:59
oiaohmI took a code section from it and I got my assignment failed.Apr 18 15:00
schestowitzWhat did he write in them? "Fidel Moglen"?Apr 18 15:00
oiaohmluckly I got a resubmit.Apr 18 15:00
oiaohmRemember high school so coding in basic.Apr 18 15:00
schestowitzOK, npApr 18 15:00
schestowitzanyway, he uses .NETApr 18 15:00
oiaohmHis c64 books.Apr 18 15:00
schestowitzAnd he's not coding anymore AFAIKApr 18 15:00
oiaohmI remember that prick well.Apr 18 15:01
oiaohmThe person teaching programing had in my high school had duel PHD in applied maths and physics. Apr 18 15:02
oiaohmTo be correct PHD with masters in each.  schestowitzApr 18 15:03
oiaohmTeaching in a high school with a total school population of 200Apr 18 15:04
schestowitzAnyway, expect many more attacks from Florian on my credibility. He announced he would do thisApr 18 15:04
oiaohmAART is a fairly complex project.Apr 18 15:04
schestowitzThis is where having the Groklaw community helped a bit, we hopefully will find it a new forum in which to shed light on these shady peopleApr 18 15:04
schestowitzI have something more complex being built right nowApr 18 15:04
schestowitzIt's still not polished. I also have 70 pages so far explaining what it doesApr 18 15:05
schestowitzI think Florian is upset nobody buys his books anymoreApr 18 15:05
schestowitzHe lives in the past glory of a teen in the 80sApr 18 15:05
schestowitzThen becoming a lobbying for a FOOTBALL teamApr 18 15:06
oiaohmReally nothing I have seen from Florian is in the complexity of AARTApr 18 15:06
schestowitzSo his bitterness leads to hostilityApr 18 15:06
schestowitzHis books "no lobbyists and such" is probably the most recent (2005 IIRC) and its site has been down for agesApr 18 15:06
oiaohmReally if I catch up with the PHD in physic and maths some time I might send him your way.Apr 18 15:07
schestowitzunless he's in the same area, it might be irrelevant to himApr 18 15:07
oiaohmThinking he has done software for modeling for risk assessments on medical operations.Apr 18 15:07
oiaohmTrue life and death maths.Apr 18 15:08
oiaohmGet it wrong kill someone.Apr 18 15:08
oiaohmschestowitz: some of yours and his areas would overlap.Apr 18 15:09
oiaohmschestowitz: Know someone who reads german well.  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_M%C3%BCller_%28Autor%29Apr 18 15:12
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oiaohmI could work it out if I spent enough time.Apr 18 15:12
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schestowitzFlorian celebrates Windows.. http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/59988735684657152Apr 18 15:49
TechrightsBot-sc@edbott: ZDNet celebrates its 20th anniversary. Back in 1991, Windows was just getting started. Here's what I was doing then: http://zd.net/dI2hdSApr 18 15:49
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: My life before Windows | ZDNet .::. Size~: 114.82 KBApr 18 15:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71347414Apr 18 16:49
TechrightsBot-sc@agentsmith's status on Monday, 18-Apr-11 15:27:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Seems like the guy surrendered to FLOSS. At least by his written words, it looks like.Apr 18 16:49
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 18 17:03
schestowitz"A few months ago we had an article that was very negative regarding Microsoft, about half a dozen new members responded to defend MS, all posting with strong USA West coast accents. Wonder how many of them pay their taxes in Redmond?"Apr 18 17:03
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 104.55 KBApr 18 17:03
schestowitz<Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> There is an article in Finland's "Kauppalehti" that is not online.Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> I've noticed Swedish papers also doing this sometimes.Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> The title is "Avoin koodi tulee" (Open source is coming) and in theApr 18 17:34
schestowitz> paper version of the July 19, 2010 edition.  If you have Finnish sourcesApr 18 17:34
schestowitz> they might track it down.  This was of course prior to the NoWinApr 18 17:34
schestowitz> situation and even before the hiring of the trojan horse Elop.Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz> On pages 4 and 5.  Kauppalehti is the nation's main business newspaper.Apr 18 17:34
schestowitz>  The klaxons probably went off in Redmond when it hit press.Apr 18 17:34
schestowitzWe could use a transcription/translation if it covers the NoWin angle...Apr 18 17:34
schestowitzThe libellous trolls admits libel:Apr 18 18:15
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/948e65ef631adee6Apr 18 18:15
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.2 KBApr 18 18:15
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:15
schestowitzRoy did NOT admit to setting up multiple accounts. He was referring toApr 18 18:15
schestowitztrolls setting up accounts in his name.  I goofed that one up. ApologiesApr 18 18:15
schestowitzto Roy. Apr 18 18:15
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:15
schestowitzAfter he had spread this libel even in post titlesApr 18 18:15
schestowitzStill stalking, too Apr 18 18:17
schestowitzRoy did NOT admit to setting up multiple accounts. He was referring toApr 18 18:17
schestowitztrolls setting up accounts in his name.  I goofed that one up. ApologiesApr 18 18:17
schestowitzto Roy. Apr 18 18:18
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/948e65ef631adee6#Apr 18 18:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.2 KBApr 18 18:18
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bd04cd1f2bbd3272#Apr 18 18:19
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 40.2 KBApr 18 18:19
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:19
schestowitzPity. Groklaw is about more than just fighting SCO. It was instrumentalApr 18 18:19
schestowitzin defeating other patent trolls and monopolisers, like IP InnovationApr 18 18:19
schestowitzLLC in its fraudulent claim against Red Hat.Apr 18 18:19
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20100513121121635Apr 18 18:19
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw - IP Innovation v. Red Hat/Novell - The Prior Art They Used at Trial - Updated .::. Size~: 17.95 KBApr 18 18:19
schestowitzWe need more sites like this, not less.Apr 18 18:19
schestowitzRemember the Patent Troll Tracker, Richard Frenkel, who became theApr 18 18:19
schestowitztarget of a bounty set by a thug called Raymond Niro?Apr 18 18:19
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_Troll_TrackerApr 18 18:19
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schestowitzAnother soldier down. Apr 18 18:19
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:19
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:20
schestowitzNo Homer, she has a point. Linux has expanded in spite of Microsoft'sApr 18 18:20
schestowitzand its agent's FUD efforts. Unix and variant (Linux) increases fromApr 18 18:20
schestowitz4.8% in 2003 to 13.2% in 2011, as expressed by w3schools.com isApr 18 18:20
schestowitzimportant proof. That does not represent developers, as they alreadyApr 18 18:20
schestowitzknow how to program in various languages. Those numbers representsApr 18 18:20
schestowitzanyone wanting to learn Internet software programming, includingApr 18 18:20
schestowitzeducators, the students they teach and the self-taught.Apr 18 18:20
schestowitzRoy Schestowitz no longer sees a reason to post here. Many of theApr 18 18:20
schestowitzadvocates no longer post here, because it is unnecessary. I amApr 18 18:20
schestowitzincreasingly seeing similar to PJ, that I have no need to furtherApr 18 18:20
schestowitzadvocate Linux here, including posting the official FAQ.Apr 18 18:20
schestowitzI have other interests I wish to devote more time to, such as myApr 18 18:20
schestowitzmusical pursuits. Linux there plays an important role, augmenting myApr 18 18:20
schestowitzmusical talents.Apr 18 18:20
schestowitzSo in short yes, PJ is correct. Linux has already won. Yes, there areApr 18 18:20
schestowitzbattles still going, a Linux mopping up operation still needs supportApr 18 18:20
schestowitzto put out the FUD wild fires that occasionally spring up, suchApr 18 18:20
schestowitzsoftware patent FUD. Battles still rage, but Linux has won the war. Apr 18 18:20
schestowitz"Apr 18 18:20
MinceRthe war is far from overApr 18 18:20
MinceRm$ is moving from maintaining OS monopolies to patent trollingApr 18 18:21
schestowitzI knowApr 18 18:24
schestowitzTR covers that as matter of priorityApr 18 18:24
schestowitzI don't take cheap shots at Microsoft, or rarely doApr 18 18:24
schestowitzLike I said, we need to just cover the key issues, like Groklaw often didApr 18 18:25
schestowitz[21:14] <tessier_> Ah. I don't ping. My nagios setup actually grabs the front page and looks for a particular string.Apr 18 21:14
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