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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @howardknopf EXCESS !COPYRIGHT: Breaking Blogging Deployments in London and Geneva http://ur1.ca/3q1g8 !copyfight #IPKatApr 01 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse :) #TFInFApr 01 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EXCESS COPYRIGHT: Breaking Blogging Deployments in London and Geneva .::. Size~: 202.52 KBApr 01 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] F. #Gwibber doesn't work when network manager is disabled. But I don't need no F. network manager, I can configure network by hand, #WTF!Apr 01 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Gwibber acts like MSWindows. Takes decisions for you w/o informing or overrides. Not idiot proof, surely not savy-frendly either. #failApr 01 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @yokoono On the Day of the Birth of Nutopia - 1 April 2011 by Yoko Ono http://ur1.ca/3q1hw << you go, girl!Apr 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @satipera: @themadhatter we should all join @carlopiana #UTC group then we can all get april fools jokes at the same time.Apr 01 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On the Day of the Birth of Nutopia – 1 April 2011 by Yoko Ono | IMAGINE PEACE .::. Size~: 137.79 KBApr 01 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @themadhatter The central energy cycle is organic rather than silicon-based or something else. Other chemicals like water are peripheral.Apr 01 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Glinner rt @iftf Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture - http://ur1.ca/3q1i4 #FutureOfPersonhood < this is NUTSApr 01 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Done with joining all groups with my status.net account. Now let's start lurking and see if migration is possible ATSApr 01 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.13 KBApr 01 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @Codepope: RT @LinuxJedi: An article on MySQL to Drizzle migration I wrote for The H Online http://bit.ly/eP5MJyApr 01 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A migrator's guide to Drizzle - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 44.83 KBApr 01 00:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @createlaw @ballard_ip: Mandatory reading for trademark,domain name att/ys - WIPO’s 2011 compendium of UDRP law: http://goo.gl/wCeYeApr 01 00:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WIPO Overview of WIPO Panel Views on Selected UDRP Questions, Second Edition ("WIPO Overview 2.0") .::. Size~: 271.33 KBApr 01 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @karsten Thanks!Apr 01 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identicaApr 01 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @todoleo: @fabsh @methoddan You are mentioned in this exclusive interview with Bill Gates at Todoleo.com http://ur1.ca/3q1h1Apr 01 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Fucking April 1st.Apr 01 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Todoleo Tech Blog: Todoleo.com Exclusive Interview With Bill Gates .::. Size~: 83.32 KBApr 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Minecraft USB Nether Portal: http://outl.ws/jApr 01 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] in other news, scriptfrenzy is real, and it is happening now.Apr 01 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ThinkGeek :: Minecraft USB Desktop Nether Portal .::. Size~: 49.29 KBApr 01 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fired data center worker wiped out TV show http://ur1.ca/3q1mdApr 01 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawsuit: Fired data center worker wiped out TV show | ITworld .::. Size~: 89.08 KBApr 01 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Increasing Throughput in IP Networks with ESP-Based Forwarding:http://ur1.ca/3q1n8Apr 01 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: We just released Linux Outlaws 198 - GNU/Linux Outlaws > http://outl.ws/kApr 01 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: in other news, scriptfrenzy is real, and it is happening now.Apr 01 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 198 - GNU/Linux Outlaws — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 14.42 KBApr 01 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LO 198 is out and it's real: http://outl.ws/k ;)Apr 01 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint http://ur1.ca/3q1nuApr 01 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] House votes to direct $100M in taxpayer dollars to religious private schools http://ur1.ca/3q1nxApr 01 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing http://ur1.ca/3q1o1Apr 01 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 198 - GNU/Linux Outlaws — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 14.42 KBApr 01 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint «  SpeakEasy .::. Size~: 46.46 KBApr 01 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: House votes to direct $ 100 M in taxpayer dollars to religious private schools .::. Size~: 113.15 KBApr 01 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome Blog: Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing .::. Size~: 27.48 KBApr 01 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman Wants YouTube Video Covered Up http://ur1.ca/3q1o7Apr 01 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Forget about IPv6. I think this IPv4.1 makes is so much earier! http://packetlife.net/blog/2011/apr/1/alternative-ipv6-works/Apr 01 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congressman Wants YouTube Video Covered Up - Slashdot .::. Size~: 182.37 KBApr 01 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative to IPv6 in the Works - Packet Life .::. Size~: 16.83 KBApr 01 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pioneer Anomaly Solved By 1970s Computer Graphics http://ur1.ca/3q1oa !scienceApr 01 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pioneer Anomaly Solved By 1970s Computer Graphics - Slashdot .::. Size~: 128.69 KBApr 01 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Lybia: Help free the lawyer that was gangraped by Gadaffis men http://ur1.ca/3q1onApr 01 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Supreme Court's Antonin Scalia fined over car shunt, why isn't this fucker in prison? http://ur1.ca/3q1pfApr 01 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avaaz - TURKEY TO LIBYA: FREE IMAN! .::. Size~: 37.7 KBApr 01 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Supreme Court's Antonin Scalia fined over car shunt .::. Size~: 53.11 KBApr 01 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Falling jobless claims, something else to blame on #Obama http://ur1.ca/3q1qwApr 01 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: RT @hotdogsladies: Mm. Fake Press Releases on the Internet Day. Let the awkward, slow-motion skullfuck of humor begin.Apr 01 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Morning Kev @sandersch @weeguyApr 01 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] From #lkml: Announcing the longstanding secret kernel.org redundant infrastructure http://bit.ly/gPQHZT Pictures on http://skynet.kernel.orgApr 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Drop in U.S. Jobless Claims, Rising Consumer Confidence Point to Recovery - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 60.98 KBApr 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBApr 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel.org - Skynet redundant infra loading... .::. Size~: 0.17 KBApr 01 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @knurd666: From #lkml: Announcing [..] secret kernel.org redundant infra http://bit.ly/gPQHZT Pictures on http://skynet.kernel.orgApr 01 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBApr 01 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel.org - Skynet redundant infra loading... .::. Size~: 0.17 KBApr 01 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Chrisis #tokyo radiation lower than normal #hongkong radiation. http://ur1.ca/3q1rn #fukushima #nuclearApr 01 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! Good one... ♺ @zack: new blog post: « pushing cross-distro collaboration to the next level » http://ur1.ca/3q1rsApr 01 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hong Kong Radiation Exceeds Tokyo Even After Japan Crisis - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 64.19 KBApr 01 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♺ @pinkpomelo Overheard - "how come PAP don't need to sell party newsletter like the oppositions?" "they've got Straits Times" #sgelectionsApr 01 01:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #aprilfools! :) ♻ @vvillenave: #XKCD now in #3D! http://xkcd.com/880 http://xkcd.com/xk3d #geek #cc #culturelibreApr 01 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♺ @tocsg "You must be able to smell people out." - LKY http://fb.me/IGMixS8lApr 01 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Headache .::. Size~: 10.02 KBApr 01 01:20
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Singapore Notes: He Doesn't See Through People .::. Size~: 55.85 KBApr 01 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: Just bought two more Minecraft copies for the kids, and setup a new private server at home. Should keep them busy over Easter :)Apr 01 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kenneth Branagh: The star who forgot how to shine - http://bit.ly/idceAO cruel, but rather fine, profile of one of my favourite actorsApr 01 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why "skepticism" is now just another cult - http://bit.ly/hUZ7Vo certainly a danger skeptics must be aware ofApr 01 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kenneth Branagh: The star who forgot how to shine | Film | The Guardian .::. Size~: 254.23 KBApr 01 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack of Kent: Why "skepticism" is now just another cult .::. Size~: 107.62 KBApr 01 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? @stcom can't control their dents? (also at http://yfrog.com/gy5ypbmj) http://ur1.ca/3q1vhApr 01 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] April Fools 2011: The Big List - http://tcrn.ch/fIDiB2 helps you to avoid wasting time and excitement today...Apr 01 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Smartphone Wars: #Microsoft may win after all - http://bit.ly/eTezmy not that #esr's being provocative or anythingApr 01 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: April Fools 2011: The Big List .::. Size~: 59.89 KBApr 01 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Armed and Dangerous  » Blog Archive   » The Smartphone Wars: Microsoft may win after all .::. Size~: 25.21 KBApr 01 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just finished off my SNES, it looks like :( My first chunk of hardware is goneApr 01 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture - http://bit.ly/gzokeM surprise: make something "property", get daftnessApr 01 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.17 KBApr 01 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Avoid the pitfalls of the JavaScript Trap on Gmail - http://bit.ly/eCp4IC #javascript is the elephant in the web...or somethingApr 01 01:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avoid the pitfalls of the JavaScript Trap on Gmail — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 33.47 KBApr 01 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Blasting chiptunes at the lab and wondering what to do with the snes's SHVC-SOUND boardApr 01 01:40
MinceRr4wrApr 01 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Numb3rs explaining IRC - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQApr 01 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Funambol VintageSync Syncs Trillions of Analog Devices with the Cloud - like your paper agenda! http://is.gd/0WI8zC #AFApr 01 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Numb3rs' description of IRC .::. Size~: 120.76 KBApr 01 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Funambol: News: Press Releases .::. Size~: 9.79 KBApr 01 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Announcing: the W3C Command Line Tool and the W3C Mini Server http://kwz.me/n0Apr 01 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] If you like Free Software, Donate $1, if not, then donate $20.. (yup, it need improvement then !! )Apr 01 01:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Archive of W3C News in 1995 .::. Size~: 4.61 KBApr 01 02:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Today in the Netherlands we celebrate the 10 years anniversary of legal same sex marriages. !LGBT !prideApr 01 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @clacke Yes, but then we can hire people to fill out claims for them, thus reducing the number of jobless! #WINNINGApr 01 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: Nice #minecraft April Fools. http://twitpic.com/4fluwd http://twitpic.com/4fluzzApr 01 02:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitpic - Share photos and videos on Twitter .::. Size~: 11 KBApr 01 02:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitpic - Share photos and videos on Twitter .::. Size~: 11 KBApr 01 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] WON!!! :-DApr 01 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @charlesschulz: yes. I would like to work on a Linux distro with Florian Mueller as well. I think that would be very important for FOSS...Apr 01 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] A massive SQL injection attack has already affected 380,000 urls !linux #web #security http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10833Apr 01 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Massive SQL injection attack compromises 380,000 URLs .::. Size~: 20.57 KBApr 01 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo198 The freedom! It is glorious!!Apr 01 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Everything looks bad if you remember it!" - Homer J. Simpson !qApr 01 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: WON!!! :-D < Details?Apr 01 02:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo197 testApr 01 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo197 test 2Apr 01 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana GOOG suggested search: libel, refused to filter, sued for injunction, won; appeal, won. C Milan 31/03/2011 Bardolla v GoogleApr 01 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The thunder sounds in #DAII are so realistic. Awesome Foley work! :)Apr 01 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @jwildeboer @charlesschulz Let's call it #Pattux - the patent-filled Distro ;-)Apr 01 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release http://goo.gl/ja8FNApr 01 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: 3D stuff gives me a headache http://xkcd.com/880/Apr 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release .::. Size~: 6.57 KBApr 01 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Headache .::. Size~: 10.12 KBApr 01 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @charlesschulz: I hear rumours that Florian Mueller will soon be appointed CEO of #Oracle and become a board member of #MSFT Corporation.Apr 01 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks. I felt awkward going after them, but they were totally unreasonable & client had to pay a lot to solve.Apr 01 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Mozilla's Do Not Track header gaining ad industry support http://goo.gl/fWdlrApr 01 02:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla's Do Not Track header gaining ad industry support .::. Size~: 32.38 KBApr 01 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !GNOME be trollin’ – 3.0 delayed (again) to September 2011 http://goo.gl/8AGI5Apr 01 02:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Ubuntu! | Everything Ubuntu. Terminally. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBApr 01 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @toros you did notice the date? April 1st? ;-)Apr 01 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah! More coffee!Apr 01 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks. I must say I've won even slightly more important cases ;-P But this is going to hit hard too.Apr 01 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Debolution - The advance of Evolution to !debian !linux http://ur1.ca/3q29nApr 01 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Natty Beta released, reviewed http://goo.gl/PZ6OMApr 01 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #elementaryOS ‘Jupiter’ released, reviewed http://goo.gl/PO35mApr 01 02:56
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Ubuntu! | Everything Ubuntu. Terminally. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBApr 01 02:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Ubuntu! | Everything Ubuntu. Terminally. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBApr 01 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Houston, we have a problem – the X server has crashed http://goo.gl/ky00AApr 01 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Earth renders cheeky #Narwhal outside !Canonical’s London office http://goo.gl/SspsFApr 01 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] UMPlayer: New Cross-Platform Mplayer GUI Based On SMPlayer http://bit.ly/eEW1mcApr 01 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Google locking down !Android? No. I doubt we could be so lucky. http://goo.gl/8brpLApr 01 02:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Ubuntu! | Everything Ubuntu. Terminally. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBApr 01 02:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Ubuntu! | Everything Ubuntu. Terminally. .::. Size~: 1.4 KBApr 01 02:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UMPlayer: New Cross-Platform Mplayer GUI Based On SMPlayer ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 70.42 KBApr 01 02:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » Google locking down Android? No. I doubt we could be so lucky. .::. Size~: 50.45 KBApr 01 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] smspillaz: A dark new future #Compiz - Windows 8 and Mac OS X Lion will be moving to compiz http://goo.gl/WbLpb :) #April1stApr 01 02:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A dark new future Compiz | be careful, he might break your display .::. Size~: 27.53 KBApr 01 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Could the #Fonera 2.0n be the first #FreedomBox? http://corp.fon.com/en/products/fonera2n/Apr 01 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Acer CEO’s resignation makes me less interested in Acer tablets [OPINION] http://goo.gl/aiRprApr 01 03:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fon - Fonera 2.0n - The most feature packed Fonera .::. Size~: 19.24 KBApr 01 03:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » Acer CEO’s resignation makes me less interested in Acer tablets [OPINION] .::. Size~: 49.43 KBApr 01 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Chromium blog: UA String Changes Coming In Chrome 11 http://goo.gl/Num4lApr 01 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu #Natty Beta 1, Released [Video & Screenshots] http://goo.gl/cyxvXApr 01 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Google Cloud Print Ready printers now available http://goo.gl/3N8KFApr 01 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chromium Blog: UA String Changes Coming In Chrome 11 .::. Size~: 34.08 KBApr 01 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1, Released [Video & Screenshots] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 80.9 KBApr 01 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome Blog: Google Cloud Print Ready printers now available .::. Size~: 26.29 KBApr 01 03:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Bizarre Cathedral - 95 http://goo.gl/DylA1 sudo it's your turn to get the coffeeApr 01 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: UMPlayer: New Cross-Platform Mplayer GUI Based On SMPlayer http://goo.gl/KOtaaApr 01 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Google Chrome blog: Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing http://goo.gl/2ICeVApr 01 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And now... to celebrate: a tour on my motorbike on this gorgeous sunny dayApr 01 03:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Bizarre Cathedral - 95 .::. Size~: 30.68 KBApr 01 03:08
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome Blog: Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing .::. Size~: 27.48 KBApr 01 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Nice, amarok just deleted 8gb of music. Good on ya!Apr 01 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] After 10 years !fsfe new strategy: Beside !fs now also hardware: "Cutting-edge development: the Analogue Printer" http://ur1.ca/3q2bk !gnuApr 01 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: Delaying !GNOME 3.0, again http://goo.gl/tv9UuApr 01 03:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cutting-edge development: the Analogue Printer .::. Size~: 6.49 KBApr 01 03:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delaying GNOME 3.0, again - mon journal - par Vincent .::. Size~: 17.32 KBApr 01 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 51 million downloads on 2011-04-01 10:12 UTCApr 01 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Fridge: !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal Beta 1 Released yesterday http://goo.gl/CK0tHApr 01 03:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 (Natty Narwhal) Released. .::. Size~: 33.83 KBApr 01 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad News: Launchpad will be read-only from 08.00 UTC 6th April for about 90 minutes http://goo.gl/dHNxe !uApr 01 03:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Launchpad Blog .::. Size~: 5.56 KBApr 01 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe After 10 years !fsfe new strategy: Beside !fs now also hardware: "Cutting-edge development: the Analogue Printer" http://ur1.ca ...Apr 01 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @toros !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Earth renders cheeky #Narwhal outside !Canonical’s London office http://goo.gl/SspsFApr 01 03:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon is Jef Spaleta http://goo.gl/ZDRUg :) #april1stApr 01 03:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Gwibber 2.91 (on Ubuntu Natty) only accepts twitter, identi.ca and Facebook accounts. No status.net. How #fail is that??Apr 01 03:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Xubuntu 11.04 beta 1 released yesterday http://goo.gl/WNmZbApr 01 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Edubuntu 11.04 beta 1 released yesterday http://goo.gl/qMMQKApr 01 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @flattrchattr What's this? No April fools for sure! Weekly Review: By popular demand! http://ur1.ca/3q2bw !flattrApr 01 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: Announcing !Ubuntu App Developer Week http://goo.gl/Wb631Apr 01 03:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Ubuntu App Developer Week « Benvinguts, passeu passeu .::. Size~: 49.59 KBApr 01 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach's blog: !Ubuntu Development Guide: Fixing a bug in Ubuntu http://goo.gl/tQdIAApr 01 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !spurs have lost Woodgate for the Madrid game :( !footballApr 01 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: It Will be Boring for a While http://goo.gl/EavvfApr 01 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @themadhatter "Ethisphere .. companies with less than perfect historical corporate .. operating records .. have their successes celebrated"Apr 01 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: #Dosbox for the win! http://goo.gl/0G4C4Apr 01 03:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Dosbox for the win! .::. Size~: 55.15 KBApr 01 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Web app matching with !Chromium and !Unity http://goo.gl/siHpuApr 01 03:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Silver Fox: An Interview with Resident Troll http://goo.gl/0j1Et #april1stApr 01 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Can't really see Sunderland beating Citeh, but it would help keep !spurs in the top 5. !footballApr 01 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] heise: Berliner Außenministerium #AA wechselt zu #Apple http://ur1.ca/3q1ed #bundesleaks (http://ur1.ca/3d60f ) !fsfe !fsApr 01 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a rare occasion, malware story from the #BBC mentioning #Microsoft http://is.gd/USn2B7 are they starting to be credible? or a one-off?Apr 01 03:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Interview with Resident Troll « Thoughts « Silver Fox's Space .::. Size~: 27.6 KBApr 01 03:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online - Berliner Außenministerium wechselt zu Apple .::. Size~: 47.13 KBApr 01 03:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dradio Wissen Interview: Ohne GNU/Linux im Auswärtigen Amt «  I love it here .::. Size~: 10.44 KBApr 01 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bad news for #Mozilla embedders http://goo.gl/SPPnHApr 01 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] News@11: #Mozilla gives the finger to embedders http://goo.gl/sCBZVApr 01 03:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Entre code et gazon - Bad news for Mozilla embedders .::. Size~: 6.17 KBApr 01 03:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: np237: News@11: Mozilla gives the finger to embedders .::. Size~: 61.14 KBApr 01 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @arashm It's April Fools' Day! Don't reshare this !gnome delaying thing please!Apr 01 03:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.8.2 has been released: http://goo.gl/ILU6D | Package is waiting for dependencies: http://goo.gl/xn28HApr 01 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06607Apr 01 03:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @chemist http://bit.ly/f4EM3i get your adblocker for the real world..... best April Fool's I've seen so farApr 01 03:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @popey http://is.gd/ggCJJk Is where you go if you click the link in the #minecraft april fool.Apr 01 03:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I just *love* math: http://kwejk.pl/obrazek/31478Apr 01 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh And it's still better than the distro below it :PApr 01 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm using Oxygen-Transparant http://ur1.ca/32ngz It's so hot! !kde !kubuntuApr 01 03:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Install Oxygen-Transparent Style In Ubuntu [KDE] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 71.61 KBApr 01 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YEAH! http://ur1.ca/3q2il #ABC via @SuannaTatarApr 01 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gohmert: #Libya Attacks Are False Flag For Obama To Call Up Private Army Created By Health Care Law http://ur1.ca/3q2iq #batshitwhackoApr 01 03:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh I signed up as Beta Tester lol! http://adblockforchrome.blogspot.com/2011/03/adblock-freedom.html?commentPage=2Apr 01 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @headphonica #hintoftheday: the amount of cracked & crippled software on your computer will be significantly reduced when switching t ...Apr 01 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Desperate WI Republican congressman struggling to get by on $174K turns to copyright trolling http://ur1.ca/3q2k3Apr 01 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman's wicked-funny monologue at the Congressional Correspondents' Dinner http://ur1.ca/3q2kiApr 01 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] David Rovics is playing on the 10th in Cologne! @th3k4ty wanna go? :)Apr 01 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus. Aveline is bloody annoying .... :/ #DAIIApr 01 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @yamanickill Haha! Foursquare just april fooled me! No points for my last check on. Awesome.Apr 01 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My last post in the !twitterfree group. I went back...... wards :/ http://twitter.com/#!/hxlshcirApr 01 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I hate my big mouth sometimesApr 01 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmmm.... Wife soup! ;)Apr 01 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why has the Westboro Baptist Church turned their back on God? http://ur1.ca/3q2syApr 01 04:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Westboro Baptist Church Lady Gaga Parody .::. Size~: 117.97 KBApr 01 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm listening to the amazingly soulful Nat Birchall playing Keep The Light Shining from the Guiding Spirit CD http://bit.ly/hBBxwrApr 01 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's music like this that makes me forget what aholes the RIAA and their cahoots areApr 01 04:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Dat amining, the Internet, and you, http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2058114,00.html #torApr 01 04:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Child free flights from October 2011" - http://ur1.ca/3q2uv - #RyanAir #FTW ;-) #ABCApr 01 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @nizarus: that's it ♺ @kangoulya: RT @dxld #OpenSource is a development model. #FreeSoftware is a way of lifeApr 01 04:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Child free flights from October 2011 .::. Size~: 21.35 KBApr 01 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Time to move on. I have accepted a job offering from Microsoft. We will work hard on GPLing Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. #ABCApr 01 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] seems I'm guilty of propagating 1, possibly 2, April Fool's: skepticism (http://bit.ly/hUZ7Vo) & smartphone (http://bit.ly/eTezmy) </sigh>Apr 01 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems @FOSSpatents made Linus think: http://ur1.ca/3ptyr - Linux kernel relicensed under BSD. #ABCApr 01 05:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @syntax: April Fools day sucks. You think all this great stuff is happening and then people crush your hopesApr 01 05:21
schestowitz<MinceR> r4wrApr 01 05:22
schestowitz>:Apr 01 05:22
MinceRo/Apr 01 05:22
schestowitzo/Apr 01 05:24
schestowitzAny Linux news this eeek or just new Ubuntu wallpapers?Apr 01 05:24
schestowitzThe news has been dry...Apr 01 05:24
oiaohmApril 1Apr 01 05:27
oiaohmLinux world lays low.Apr 01 05:27
schestowitzI can'\t be bothered adding links to fake news :-)Apr 01 05:28
schestowitz2011 is a prime number... hm...Apr 01 05:29
oiaohmschestowitz: there has not even been that much good.Apr 01 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android/Linux Predicted to have a Near-Monopoly of Smartphones by 2015 http://ur1.ca/3q31f Microsoft apologists go further & call it cartelApr 01 05:29
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oiaohmEven googles 2011 april fools day jokes are not up to there normal standard.  http://google.about.com/od/experimentalgoogletools/tp/aprilfools.htm schestowitzApr 01 05:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Howto install Creepy social stalkking app on !crunchbang !linux http://ur1.ca/3q32qApr 01 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On Virtualbox w/o kernel guest extension, my Natty boots and logs in in less than 20 seconds. Shuts down in less than 5. #impressiveApr 01 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Back on Twitter... but only to use silly apps and spread the identica gospel :) http://richs-lxh.com/twitter-ive-gone-back-wards/Apr 01 05:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LxH Blog » Howto install Creepy Social Stalker app on Crunchbang Linux .::. Size~: 37.34 KBApr 01 05:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's 'App Store trademark': A farce of Jobsian proportions http://ur1.ca/3q33t vocabulary is being privatisedApr 01 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meet Microsofts new tablet - the Goliath! 42"! http://ur1.ca/3q33r and http://ur1.ca/3q33s [German only ATM]Apr 01 05:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple's 'App Store trademark': A farce of Jobsian proportions • The Register .::. Size~: 24.9 KBApr 01 05:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: April, April: Ein Tablet namens Goliath und Angry Nerds - Golem.de .::. Size~: 62.72 KBApr 01 05:36
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schestowitzoiaohm: what's this year's Google prank?Apr 01 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The "Did You Know" section on Wikipedia today is a masterpiece of research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_PageApr 01 05:38
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oiaohmhttp://google.about.com/od/experimentalgoogletools/tp/aprilfools.htm  Top two on that list. schestowitz both kinda sux.Apr 01 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Meet Microsofts new tablet - the Goliath! 42"! http://ur1.ca/3q33r and http://ur1.ca/3q33sApr 01 05:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: April, April: Ein Tablet namens Goliath und Angry Nerds - Golem.de .::. Size~: 62.72 KBApr 01 05:40
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oiaohmOk slashdots one is reasoanble http://meta.slashdot.org/story/11/03/31/2125200/SlashTweaks-Let-YOU-Micro-Edit-SlashdotApr 01 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Acer CEO and president Gianfranco Lanci resigns http://ur1.ca/3q34y that's the man who openly blasted #Vista on behalf of "the industry"Apr 01 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hey, @fabsh, ist that you in the video? The "some german guy"? http://ur1.ca/3q35h ;-) #ABCApr 01 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google and #ARM reportedly plan standardization for Android/ARM platforms http://ur1.ca/3q35c #Linux based platforms (non server)Apr 01 05:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acer CEO and president Gianfranco Lanci resigns .::. Size~: 76.46 KBApr 01 05:45
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google and ARM reportedly plan to establish standardization for Android/ARM platforms .::. Size~: 75.89 KBApr 01 05:45
oiaohmstandardization for Android/ARM platforms  << Ok This process was already started between arm and meego.Apr 01 05:47
oiaohmTo sort out Linux kernel starting on ARM hardware.Apr 01 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...according to Google's net crawlers, the web now contains over 31 million open source projects" http://ur1.ca/3q36d I published about 10Apr 01 05:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google open source guru: 'Why we ban the AGPL' • The Register .::. Size~: 24.63 KBApr 01 05:48
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, good newsApr 01 05:48
schestowitzBut it's not LSBApr 01 05:48
schestowitzGoogle does its own thing;. What about Linaro?Apr 01 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google does not like choice. Good luck adjusting their products' looks, behaviour (or even choice of licence, which is free to add).Apr 01 05:49
schestowitz"Google and Kansas City have a joint project to change things. They are going to spawn gigabit/s Internet access." http://mrpogson.com/2011/03/31/kansas-city-enters-the-21st-century/Apr 01 05:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kansas City Enters the 21st Century at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.27 KBApr 01 05:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/53747938781970432Apr 01 05:54
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: Techrights is the kind of site where the "april fools" story has a date stamp of 03.31.11 in 14 point type.Apr 01 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No Fools: 300 Feds Wipe Out 50% Of US Music #Piracy Overnight - http://bit.ly/esLasi not just witty, but makes an important pointApr 01 05:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Fools: 300 Feds Wipe Out 50% Of US Music Piracy Overnight | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.26 KBApr 01 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Health: Improving health the open source way | http://bit.ly/fd22pvApr 01 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Summer of Code project ideas for #LibreOffice. http://ur1.ca/3q390 #openoffice #freedomApr 01 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @drizztbsd: RT @michal Q: How to generate a random string? A: Put a fresh student in front of #vim and tell him to quit.Apr 01 06:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Health: Improving health the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.87 KBApr 01 06:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Pure genious!! #cbproject See you emerge next year ^^Apr 01 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-04-01: Creepy app warns of an end to privacy The biggest threat to your privacy is not the discl... http://wmk.me/g3JiR0Apr 01 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, i'm off home. Laters !identiverse, have a good weekend :)Apr 01 06:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2011-04-01 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 54.01 KBApr 01 06:08
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schestowitzBlech. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Mar-30.htmlApr 01 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono and Google Summer of Code - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.52 KBApr 01 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @opensourceway Open Health: Improving health the open source way | http://bit.ly/fd22pvApr 01 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Health: Improving health the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.78 KBApr 01 06:13
schestowitzender2071: you're suggesting BT and Microsoft relationship could *possibly* have me targeted; I wish there was truth to that, but there's none :-)Apr 01 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goodbye Ubuntu 9.10 http://ur1.ca/3q3ba it was a great release, thanks CanonicalApr 01 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Goodbye Ubuntu 9.10 .::. Size~: 13.66 KBApr 01 06:16
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/robotic-pharmacy-machines-process-meds-improve-safety/46801  Wonder if this will make it simpler to kill someone in hospital.Apr 01 06:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robotic pharmacy: Machines process meds, improve safety | ZDNet .::. Size~: 94.04 KBApr 01 06:17
oiaohmYes humans make errors humans also correct errors.Apr 01 06:18
schestowitzit's a ptogramming taskApr 01 06:18
schestowitzYou could also do facial recognition better with computers if implemented wellApr 01 06:19
oiaohmI was more thinking what happened here in Australia.Apr 01 06:19
schestowitzwhat happened?Apr 01 06:19
schestowitzNot so long ago some virus shut down Aussie ambulance service somewhere :-)Apr 01 06:19
oiaohmWhere one of our political people was attempted to be killed by hospital computer.Apr 01 06:19
schestowitzWINDOWS virusApr 01 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.39 Kernel Merge Window Closes With -rc1 http://ur1.ca/3q3c8 #kernelApr 01 06:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux 2.6.39 Kernel Merge Window Closes With -rc1 .::. Size~: 17.97 KBApr 01 06:20
oiaohmWhat happened the medical records got breached.  Drug got altered.Apr 01 06:20
oiaohmThe clipboard on bed saved him.  schestowitzApr 01 06:20
Ender2070facial recognition is everywhere nowApr 01 06:20
oiaohmThe clipboard had that he was critical alergic to a particular drug.  schestowitzApr 01 06:21
oiaohmAnd that had now been prescribed in a very high dosage.Apr 01 06:21
oiaohmYes hack computer system kill attempt.Apr 01 06:21
oiaohmAfter that computer crimes here in this country came classed as possibly the same as attempted murder.Apr 01 06:21
oiaohmBasically its one thing to have computer provide the drugs.  Its another to make sure they are the right ones.Apr 01 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What Would Be Disastrous For Linux, Open-Source: Rather than doing any April Fools' Jokes around here (the GNOME... http://bit.ly/hbtDOmApr 01 06:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] What Would Be Disastrous For Linux, Open-Source .::. Size~: 20.12 KBApr 01 06:23
oiaohmEnder2070: Even criminals are using facial recognition to find the police.Apr 01 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux distros build on #Conary package system http://ur1.ca/3q3d1 #foresight #gnu #linux is backApr 01 06:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux distros build on Conary package system - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.68 KBApr 01 06:25
oiaohmTech is a double sided weapon.Apr 01 06:26
oiaohmOnce people are perfectly trackable so are the police.Apr 01 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @tdfischer: Why isn't !fedora in on this Canterbury project? Is there a merger with microsoft pending or something? < Ask Oracle ;-)Apr 01 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: ♺ @drizztbsd: RT @michal Q: How to generate a random string? A: Put a fresh student in front of #vim and tell him to quit.Apr 01 06:26
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Symbian-source-surfaces-at-Nokia-1219536.html  This is interesting that Symbian source code is turning up again.Apr 01 06:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Symbian source surfaces at Nokia - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.52 KBApr 01 06:28
schestowitzEnder2070: but crappy programsApr 01 06:30
schestowitzoiaohm: it might as well. Many phones still use that.Apr 01 06:31
schestowitzThis is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_0ZiletC4AApr 01 06:32
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oiaohmschestowitz: Remember Nokia closed the foundation then the code disappeared from public display.  Apr 01 06:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan New federated social bookmarking service http://freelish.us/ -- http://ur1.ca/3q3cx #fswApr 01 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bobobex: #lo198 is excellent! New-found respect for @fabsh & @methoddan :DApr 01 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here's The Special #AMD Present For #Ubuntu Users http://ur1.ca/3q3et unlike w/ #nvidia we get source code, tooApr 01 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Microsoft introduceert Goliath Tablet http://ur1.ca/3q33r !microsoft !windowsApr 01 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME 3.0 delayed until September http://lwn.net/Articles/436539/rssApr 01 06:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenCorporates - Open Database of the Corporate World - http://bit.ly/gW6BuN potentially important new project gains steam #opendataApr 01 06:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hercules Launches New eCAFE Netbooks http://ur1.ca/3q3hg yes, it runs #LinuxApr 01 06:44
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schestowitzoiaohm: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/google_open_source_guru_chris_dibona_on_open_source_art_nasa/Apr 01 06:45
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oiaohmschestowitz: and because of that FSF is now asking google to open source more.Apr 01 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Headache - http://xkcd.com/ wow; just wow #xkcd #3d (v @technollama)Apr 01 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Headache - http://xkcd.com/ wow; just wow #xkcd #3d (v @technollama) < works for the complete archive!?! #Canwekeepthis?Apr 01 06:56
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schestowitzre Foresight Linux Apr 01 06:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70202504Apr 01 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 13:51:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they started up again back in December (ish) it went from alpha 1 to RC very quickly, but definitley not cutting edgeApr 01 06:58
schestowitzanyone tried it?Apr 01 06:59
schestowitzI think it's elated to rpathApr 01 06:59
MinceRi did and it sucks like none otherApr 01 06:59
MinceRmainly because conary is retardedApr 01 06:59
schestowitzoiaohm: did you see what FSF says about gmail now?Apr 01 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spotlight on Linux: #Supergamer Supreme 2.5 http://ur1.ca/3q3l8 Susan Linton has followed it for years. #gnu #linux #gamingApr 01 06:59
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MinceRit's been discussed beforeApr 01 07:00
oiaohmschestowitz: Yes that after google call to nasa to be more open.Apr 01 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Look: #Ubuntu 11.04 Beta http://ur1.ca/3pvrv #gnu #linuxApr 01 07:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open leadership webcast recap: How social technology can transform how you lead with @CharleneLi | http://bit.ly/hSwnQPApr 01 07:06
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schestowitzLFMAOing @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U44HAMnhIF4Apr 01 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian 6 Squeeze review – nearly, but not quite… http://ur1.ca/3q3mm "good choice if you want to run a server or a desktop with stable..."Apr 01 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Elementary OS Pulling an Elive - Charging for Linux? http://ur1.ca/3q3nt "orders are usually needed only by software that requires a cost.."Apr 01 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @clacke The Chemical that makes up over 70% of the body mass is peripheral? That's a curious choice of words.Apr 01 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jwildeboer: ♺ @charlesschulz: I hear rumors Florian Mueller will be appointed CEO of #Oracle and become board member of #MicrosoftApr 01 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ghostler I'd rather burn them at the stake - it sends an object lesson that isn't soon forgotten.Apr 01 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OMGUbuntu editor: "I’m the editor of a site that revolves around Ubuntu...I’ve had #Vista7 happily nestled next to Ubuntu on my hard-drive."Apr 01 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I see a similarity. @jonobacon also advertised #Vista7 in his site. How bizarre.Apr 01 07:23
schestowitzElementary https://identi.ca/notice/70203935 https://identi.ca/notice/70203985 https://identi.ca/notice/70204034 LOLApr 01 07:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:17:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the torrent is free, the cost is for the overheads of their servers etc but yeah they're not getting good PR over this stuffApr 01 07:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:18:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz apparently their IRC community are a buncha arrogant dickheads, "all the smugness of OSX, less cost" at least #Apple profitApr 01 07:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:19:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz for a Linux distro the website is very "sales brochure lite" with little real info other than the sales pitch, not even an md5Apr 01 07:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/53820529525796864Apr 01 07:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz Here's The Special #AMD Present 4 #Ubuntu Users http://ur1.ca/3q3et unlike w/ #nvidia we get source code,too [distro limited]Apr 01 07:23
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MinceRisn't this Elementary thing just another April Fools?Apr 01 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parliamentary question on the EU Commission’s new #copyright czar - http://bit.ly/gFHfvz great question; what will the answer be?Apr 01 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Parliamentary question on EU Commission’s new #copyright czar - http://bit.ly/gFHfvz great question; what will the answer be?Apr 01 07:31
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GoForbes28helloApr 01 07:35
MinceRj0Apr 01 07:35
GoForbes28hi roy (schestowitz)Apr 01 07:35
GoForbes28Big newsApr 01 07:35
GoForbes28Really, big newsApr 01 07:36
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GoForbes28Listen up mincer and daemonfcApr 01 07:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, I managed to build a BKL-free kernel with FGLRX supportApr 01 07:36
DaemonFCI commented out the parts of the glue layer module where it tries to grab the BKLApr 01 07:37
DaemonFCand it builds now :)Apr 01 07:37
MinceRDaemonFC: but does it work?Apr 01 07:37
GoForbes28Steve Balmer will be calling it quits soon.Apr 01 07:37
MinceRGoForbes28: april fools?Apr 01 07:37
DaemonFCyupApr 01 07:37
GoForbes28crapApr 01 07:37
GoForbes28Well that was a trainwreckApr 01 07:38
GoForbes28See this one  http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html ?Apr 01 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] geek porn: a site called CPU Gone Wild, which is all badly made Flash designed to snafu your CPUApr 01 07:38
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DaemonFCMinceR, It still has the code to grab the BKL but nothing actually uses itApr 01 07:38
MinceRi'll watch it at homeApr 01 07:38
DaemonFCso the only thing it does cause is a build failure if you try to build it for a kernel with no BKLApr 01 07:38
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zDQX1p7_YApr 01 07:38
MinceRGoForbes28: for several years now my first thought on april 1 is "what fun stuff did they come up with this year?"Apr 01 07:38
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schestowitzGoForbes28: big news?Apr 01 07:39
GoForbes28uh roy,Apr 01 07:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, I used GCC-4.6 with DragonEgg to build the kernel I am using nowApr 01 07:39
GoForbes28did you not read the previous messages?Apr 01 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Application Manager preview http://ur1.ca/3q3tk "Soon we are are going to deliver the first alpha (at least a tech preview) too."Apr 01 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it could have "testimonials from previous CPUs" about "spending all their cycles on ram and useless Facebook games"Apr 01 07:39
schestowitzBallmer runs a train-wreckApr 01 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fabsh LOL! http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06607Apr 01 07:39
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schestowitzThere are some other companies that will stay longer than the trollsoftApr 01 07:40
DaemonFCBallmer is actually schestowitz I'm guessingApr 01 07:40
DaemonFCthe whole schestowitz being British thing is a cover upApr 01 07:40
GoForbes28ok, that worksApr 01 07:41
GoForbes28:)Apr 01 07:41
DaemonFCand he is a personality that awakens when Ballmer goes to bed for the nightApr 01 07:41
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 07:41
GoForbes28Schestowitz is Ballmer and behind the Wikileaks consipiracy with a front-end to a CIA/UN operationApr 01 07:41
schestowitzsssshhApr 01 07:42
DaemonFCschestowitz wakes up with a sore back and doesn't realize it's from jumping up and down screaming about developersApr 01 07:42
schestowitzBallmer is hereApr 01 07:42
schestowitzIt's what I call my plungerApr 01 07:42
GoForbes28steve jobs isn't really sick, he's just Roy and Roy no longer wants to take on the personaApr 01 07:42
DaemonFCso what do you call your auger?Apr 01 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian 6 - does it get the credit it deserves? Absolutely not! http://ur1.ca/3ouvv quiet heroismApr 01 07:43
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schestowitzGatesApr 01 07:43
GoForbes28where's the 1911 button on youtube?Apr 01 07:43
DaemonFCthe stock price of Apple is so inextricably linked to Steve Jobs that when he finally does die they're going to have to pickle him and put in animatronics Apr 01 07:43
schestowitzGates is screwing everyone, Ballmer does a lot of s***Apr 01 07:43
schestowitzGoForbes28: couldn't find it eitherApr 01 07:43
schestowitzBut I didn't go to the front pageApr 01 07:43
schestowitzI'm sub'd to about 100 peopleApr 01 07:44
GoForbes28http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm8ZCJ7Fx8Apr 01 07:44
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schestowitzI got asked again today, why don't I watch TV?Apr 01 07:44
DaemonFCthe big bet when you buy APPL is whether or not you can make some money on it before Jobs dies and the stock price collapsesApr 01 07:44
schestowitzWith 4000 pixels across I'd rather watch Internet TV that I choose to subscribe to, now "what's on TV" at some arbitrary timeApr 01 07:44
MinceR:>Apr 01 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan freelish.us? LOL! ;)Apr 01 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan You gone through some trouble there, mate. :DApr 01 07:44
DaemonFCno company can depend that much on one man and be a good investmentApr 01 07:45
schestowitzIt's funny that some TV channels resorts to youtube nowApr 01 07:45
schestowitzThe same goes for Virgin Trains, I found out last nightApr 01 07:45
schestowitzThat thing becomes somewhat of a status currency, which is sillyApr 01 07:45
schestowitzThere's this guy at my gym who bragged about me that he bought subscribersApr 01 07:45
DaemonFCI think if Red Hat is around long enough, their stock price will reach a plateau, but I also think that's a long ways offApr 01 07:45
schestowitzI knew some people do that, but not people who do thatApr 01 07:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: it was a lot higherApr 01 07:46
DaemonFCthere's still plenty of growth potential for Enterprise Linux, and little for MicrosoftApr 01 07:46
schestowitzRed Hat's stock price around Internet babble...Apr 01 07:46
schestowitz*bubbleApr 01 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Good man! :)Apr 01 07:46
DaemonFCmehApr 01 07:46
schestowitzgSun's tooApr 01 07:46
DaemonFCnot counting the bubble incident where everything was overvalued....Apr 01 07:46
DaemonFCRed Hat has been growing every yearApr 01 07:47
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 07:47
DaemonFCI don't think Oracle is such a good investmentApr 01 07:47
DaemonFCthey've been trying to continue what Sun started, which is a new coat of paint on legacy UNIXApr 01 07:48
DaemonFCand it's still not workingApr 01 07:48
schestowitzThey use Red HatApr 01 07:48
schestowitzAnd Red Hat doesn't quite let them overrideApr 01 07:48
GoForbes28any other April fools links?Apr 01 07:48
DaemonFCif they had been serious about making OpenSolaris truly open, they would have used the GPL or the BSD licenseApr 01 07:48
schestowitzOracle does not use much UNIXApr 01 07:48
schestowitzIIRC, about 80% of their wares are on rhelApr 01 07:49
GoForbes28The Internet has destroyed April Fool's dayApr 01 07:49
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DaemonFCthey picked CDDL specifically so Linux couldn't use their codeApr 01 07:49
Ender2070There is a computer underground running the show, powered by a quantum based cluster of savant brains linked together using quantum entanglementApr 01 07:49
schestowitzHey, jono :-)Apr 01 07:49
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schestowitzGoForbes28: trueApr 01 07:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, Oracle is trying to have it both waysApr 01 07:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: noApr 01 07:49
schestowitzThey created it this wayApr 01 07:49
schestowitzWhat's her name...Apr 01 07:49
schestowitzOSI ladyApr 01 07:49
DaemonFCdependng on which of their pages you're on, it's either Solaris is the most advanced OSApr 01 07:49
DaemonFCor Linux isApr 01 07:50
DaemonFCand they can't both be rightApr 01 07:50
jonohi schestowitzApr 01 07:50
schestowitz!google CDDL authorApr 01 07:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Common Development and Distribution License - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_LicenseApr 01 07:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - svn commit: r198843 - user/kmacy/releng_8_fcs_buf/sys/cddl/contrib ... | http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-user/2009-November/001761.htmlApr 01 07:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - CDDL+GPL License - — Java.net | http://jersey.java.net/CDDL%2BGPL.htmlApr 01 07:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cddl | http://wn.com/CDDLApr 01 07:50
DaemonFCthere's a few features in Solaris that are better than what's there in LinuxApr 01 07:50
DaemonFCbut overall the hardware support is not as goodApr 01 07:50
DaemonFCperformance is generally not as goodApr 01 07:50
schestowitzNot their faultApr 01 07:50
schestowitzIt's a critical mass thingie...Apr 01 07:51
schestowitzThey could do better if they opened Solaris in the 90sApr 01 07:51
schestowitzMaybe Linux would be impeded by thatApr 01 07:51
DaemonFCalmost all the Solaris marketing centers around ZFS and DTraceApr 01 07:51
DaemonFCbecause it's really all they have I thinkApr 01 07:51
schestowitzLooking Glass?Apr 01 07:51
schestowitzThey compiled it for Ubuntu back in the daysApr 01 07:51
DaemonFCyeah, where did that go? :)Apr 01 07:51
schestowitzThey also have Java\Apr 01 07:51
DaemonFCmehApr 01 07:52
schestowitzLooking GLass might to to some museumApr 01 07:52
schestowitzAnd Jon's demoApr 01 07:52
DaemonFCJava is really about as bad as .NET in a lot of waysApr 01 07:52
DaemonFCOracle is a patent troll that HAS sued over it alreadyApr 01 07:52
DaemonFCalmost nothing I've seen in Java performs that wellApr 01 07:52
DaemonFCI've also noticed that some things actually need Oracle's JavaApr 01 07:53
DaemonFCand won't work at all in the free software versionsApr 01 07:54
MinceRat least certain benchmarks perform really well with java :>Apr 01 07:54
DaemonFCso the free Java is a crippled subsetApr 01 07:54
DaemonFCin much the same way Mono isApr 01 07:54
MinceRhttp://shootout.alioth.debian.org/Apr 01 07:54
DaemonFCmaybe not as bad, but it's not fully compatibleApr 01 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Listening to "The BAcksliders from Dallas, Texas" while grading exams http://www.thebacksliders.com Ian Faith says every cut is a hitApr 01 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? The world needs a copier/printer that can take voice commands? Really? FAIL! http://i.imgur.com/Snn2b.pngApr 01 07:54
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Ender2070based on oracle i'd almost rather use .net over javaApr 01 07:55
DaemonFCI don't use anything built in either oneApr 01 07:55
MinceREnder2070: remember that .net is m$Apr 01 07:55
DaemonFCI play around with Banshee once in a whileApr 01 07:55
DaemonFC:PApr 01 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Who said Penguins have no game ? http://supergamer.org/Apr 01 07:56
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DaemonFCJava is just basically a pile of security flaws ready to be plugged into your web browserApr 01 07:57
DaemonFCso you can....play Runescape?Apr 01 07:57
DaemonFCwhat does a desktop user need that shit for?Apr 01 07:57
MinceRwhat's Trash then?Apr 01 07:57
MinceRor Silver Lie?Apr 01 07:57
GoForbes28I need Java to play Cat Mario!!!Apr 01 07:57
GoForbes28 ;) Apr 01 07:57
DaemonFCTrash = Youtube, porn, Hulu, tons of other stuffApr 01 07:57
DaemonFCJava is basically uselessApr 01 07:57
DaemonFCthe only people installing Silverlight are the ones who get it as a trojan piggybacking on Windows Live MessengerApr 01 07:58
Ender2070mincer - mono is free softwareApr 01 07:58
MinceRand the winblows users some web sites foist Silver Lie onApr 01 07:59
GoForbes28mono is patented free softwareApr 01 07:59
MinceREnder2070: troll somewhere elseApr 01 07:59
GoForbes28ala a contradictionApr 01 07:59
DaemonFCMono is free software that violates patentsApr 01 07:59
DaemonFCnormally that wouldn't necessarily make me avoid itApr 01 07:59
DaemonFCbut they are MS patentsApr 01 07:59
DaemonFCand MS is threatening people with themApr 01 07:59
GoForbes28and it is shouded by scandalApr 01 07:59
DaemonFCSilverlight and the Bong Bar are trojans by definitionApr 01 08:00
DaemonFCor at least foistwareApr 01 08:00
Ender2070mincer - not trolling, just being consistentApr 01 08:01
DaemonFCI don't want this, I don't need this, how the hell did it get there? = Foistware/TrojanApr 01 08:01
DaemonFCtypicall Windows experienceApr 01 08:01
GoForbes28yepApr 01 08:01
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GoForbes28so daemonfc, why isn't the debian kernel ideal for laptop use?Apr 01 08:01
DaemonFCit injects a lot of Windows security flaws into Firefox and ChromeApr 01 08:02
GoForbes28I don't get itApr 01 08:02
DaemonFCon top of the ones they inherit from running on WindowsApr 01 08:02
MinceRdon't forget the ones m$ forces into those browsers on winblowsApr 01 08:02
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Because it's not very optimized for desktop systems in generalApr 01 08:02
GoForbes28yepApr 01 08:02
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DaemonFCI'm pretty aggressive with low latency settings in my kernelsApr 01 08:03
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:03
GoForbes28DaemonFC: what is a better kernel for Debian then?Apr 01 08:03
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DaemonFCNo_HZ = pointlessApr 01 08:03
MinceR<DaemonFC> the ubuntu kernel!Apr 01 08:03
DaemonFClots of latency so your system uses 1-2 less wattsApr 01 08:03
MinceRhow much latency and where?Apr 01 08:03
DaemonFCI notice basically identical powertop readings with or without itApr 01 08:04
DaemonFCbut with it, things like Pulseaudio become glitchyApr 01 08:04
DaemonFCI always kill it and set HZ=1000Apr 01 08:04
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:04
MinceRhow do you know it isn't PA's fault? ...and could avoid it by not running PA?Apr 01 08:05
DaemonFCMy kernel haws HZ=1000 no dynamic ticks supportApr 01 08:05
DaemonFCfull preemption Apr 01 08:05
DaemonFCaggressive ac97 power saving and Intel HDA power saving also cause issuesApr 01 08:06
DaemonFCso I disable themApr 01 08:06
DaemonFCbasically it causes them to sleep at inappropriate intervals and it causes audio glitching Apr 01 08:06
DaemonFCof course the hardware is buggy and that doesn't helpApr 01 08:07
DaemonFCbut why provoke it?Apr 01 08:07
DaemonFCI notice the same problems with Windows and there's no way to make it stop there :)Apr 01 08:07
DaemonFCso I'm not just bitching about Linux, because I can fix it in LinuxApr 01 08:08
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DaemonFCWindows has power management settings that should fix the problem but don'tApr 01 08:08
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:08
DaemonFCthe only way to get around it in Windows is to bypass the audio mixer and use kernel streamingApr 01 08:09
DaemonFCwhich requires the application to actually be aware of itApr 01 08:09
DaemonFCwhich most are notApr 01 08:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/53831118033657856Apr 01 08:09
schestowitzThanking Microsoft for anything makes no senseApr 01 08:10
schestowitzThis is a company that as a company is very maliciousApr 01 08:10
DaemonFCMinceR, the Glitch Free mode in Pulseaudio is to be thanked reallyApr 01 08:10
DaemonFCit flushed out a lot of sound card driver bugs and forced the kernel developers to fix their driversApr 01 08:10
MinceRicApr 01 08:10
DaemonFCever since like 2.6.29, this has been less and less of an issueApr 01 08:11
DaemonFCand most Linux audio drivers are all the better for it nowApr 01 08:11
MinceRschestowitz: well, he's right in a way: there are other ways to advertise vista7 besides the way(s?) he has already tried, so they are not the same thing:>Apr 01 08:12
schestowitztessier_: the server is down ATMApr 01 08:12
DaemonFCthe bugs were there either way but they were more hidden until Pulseaudio provoked themApr 01 08:12
MinceRs/\(..\)$/ \1/Apr 01 08:12
MinceRit _is_ a way of advertising vista7 thoughApr 01 08:12
MinceReven if he doesn't understand this despite allegedly being a PR guyApr 01 08:13
schestowitzIt isApr 01 08:13
DaemonFCcrappy sound drivers were my running Linux bitchlist item until the 2.6.3x seriesApr 01 08:13
MinceRperhaps the issue is that so far everyone who told him this were members of the "peanut gallery" (i.e. not shuttlecock)Apr 01 08:13
DaemonFClately I've been more and more comfortable recommending Linux as a desktop systemApr 01 08:14
DaemonFCespecially on systems with integrated GPUs which never used to work rightApr 01 08:14
DaemonFCand now most of them work better with free drivers than with binary onesApr 01 08:14
GoForbes28Schestowitz: That was a bit perplexingApr 01 08:14
MinceRi hear nvidia is working hard to make their nonfree driver work worseApr 01 08:14
DaemonFCMinceR, According to my experience, the integrated Radeon 3450 is about 20% faster with radeon than fglrxApr 01 08:15
DaemonFCand fewer bugsApr 01 08:15
DaemonFCthat's a popular chipset tooApr 01 08:15
MinceRthere was optimus, and recently i've heard on irc that the driver turned off power management, causing a certain card being tested blowing up (no URL though)Apr 01 08:15
MinceRDaemonFC: how old and weak is it?Apr 01 08:16
DaemonFCpretty weak, better than most Intel stuffApr 01 08:16
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:16
MinceRicApr 01 08:16
GoForbes28http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2011/03/31/steve-ballmer-linux-still-like-cancer-after-all-these-years/Apr 01 08:16
DaemonFCabout 3 times faster than my Core 2 Quad system with GMA 3100Apr 01 08:16
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:16
GoForbes28Please tell me this is an April Fool's jokeApr 01 08:16
GoForbes28At a celebratory dinner for the top 5 Linux developers, Linus Torvalds declared that the kernel would soon be changing to the BSD license, and away from GLPLv2, so that many developers could do more with the already developed code.Apr 01 08:17
DaemonFCbut it's the worlds tallest midget competitionApr 01 08:17
MinceRGoForbes28: it's off by a dayApr 01 08:17
MinceRthe linux bsdl story is april fools though, afaikApr 01 08:17
GoForbes28Thank goodnessApr 01 08:17
GoForbes28still no v3 thoughApr 01 08:17
MinceRindeedApr 01 08:17
DaemonFCnobody expects an integrated GPU to perform well, but if you're stuck with one, use the best driver at leastApr 01 08:17
MinceRor even a serious attempt to start migration to v3, afaikApr 01 08:18
schestowitzOh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61WjEd0y6zMApr 01 08:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I've decided that you're best off using the free Radeon stack if you have a RadeonHD 3000 series or lowerApr 01 08:19
DaemonFCand/or less than 3 cores on your CPUApr 01 08:19
DaemonFCotherwise, FGLRXApr 01 08:19
MinceRwhat's with the CPU core constraint?Apr 01 08:20
DaemonFCFGLRX is only multithreaded with more than 2 coresApr 01 08:20
DaemonFCso with 1-2 cores, that's not an issue vs the free driverApr 01 08:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:20
MinceRis the free driver multithreaded?Apr 01 08:20
DaemonFCnoApr 01 08:20
DaemonFCbut neither is FGLRX with 1 or 2 coresApr 01 08:21
DaemonFCsee what I'm saying is, with less than 3 cores, neither of them areApr 01 08:21
DaemonFCso neither has that advantageApr 01 08:21
MinceRso does this mean that the free driver beats FGLRX every way even on newer radeon GPUs if you have 1 or 2 CPU cores?Apr 01 08:21
MinceRs/way/time/Apr 01 08:21
DaemonFCno, but it's a major cause of Radeon getting beaten so badly on systems with 3 or more cores and a decent Radeon cardApr 01 08:22
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:22
DaemonFCit still might lose, but we're talking inches instead of milesApr 01 08:22
DaemonFCat this point it's not worth dealing with FGLRX if performance only goes up 20-30% instead of 300%Apr 01 08:23
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 08:23
DaemonFCthat's what I meanApr 01 08:23
DaemonFCand the free driver has other benefitsApr 01 08:24
DaemonFCKMS for oneApr 01 08:24
DaemonFCit's got EXA support tooApr 01 08:24
DaemonFCFGLRX doesn'tApr 01 08:24
DaemonFCATI2d is not as good as EXAApr 01 08:24
DaemonFCso we're talking, free driver in that case is better in all areas but 3d acceleration, where it's a little slowerApr 01 08:25
DaemonFCbesides, RadeonHD 3000 series really only supports OpenGL 2.1 in hardwareApr 01 08:25
DaemonFCand Gallium3d supports, OpenGL 2.1Apr 01 08:25
DaemonFCso it's not like the card can do all sorts of useful things that Gallium can'tApr 01 08:25
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxgames.com/archives/16654Apr 01 08:29
schestowitztessier_: ?Apr 01 08:29
Ender2070go > java/c#Apr 01 08:34
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schestowitzGo has been around for ages, but like many google products it seems to be ignoredApr 01 08:41
DaemonFChehApr 01 08:44
DaemonFCGoogle has a development model which basically excludes external inputApr 01 08:44
DaemonFCChromium is free software, but only Google really controls what happens to itApr 01 08:45
DaemonFChttp://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.htmlApr 01 08:48
MinceRif go is like google earth and crashium then it deserves to be ignored :>Apr 01 08:52
MinceRbesides, it can't even do OOPApr 01 08:52
Ender2070that's because your a moronApr 01 08:54
Ender2070to answer your earlier question yes I can compile chromiumApr 01 08:55
Ender2070debian probably has libraries too old for that to work properly I bet that's why you fail at itApr 01 08:56
Diablo-D3huh?Apr 01 08:57
Diablo-D3chromium compiles on debian fineApr 01 08:57
Diablo-D3I did it like 2 years agoApr 01 08:57
Diablo-D3[11:20:53] <MinceR> is the free driver multithreaded?Apr 01 08:57
Diablo-D3[11:21:35] <MinceR> so does this mean that the free driver beats FGLRX every way even on newer radeon GPUs if you have 1 or 2 CPU cores?Apr 01 08:57
Ender2070was talking to mincerApr 01 08:57
Diablo-D3MinceR: doesnt matterApr 01 08:58
Diablo-D3opengl isnt multithreadedApr 01 08:58
Diablo-D3and the hardware interface also isntApr 01 08:58
Diablo-D3the only place you can get a speed boost in threading is inside the hardware's own instruction issuerApr 01 08:58
schestowitznisshh: : why is "MinceR" a "moron"?Apr 01 08:58
Diablo-D3of which, radeons are massively hardware threaded.Apr 01 08:58
schestowitzor DaemonFC?Apr 01 08:59
Diablo-D3no data processing should be done in software for most obvious reasons.Apr 01 08:59
Diablo-D3dont think you're smarter than mesa devs, MinceR Apr 01 08:59
Ender207011:58 < schestowitz> nisshh: : why is "MinceR" a "moron"?Apr 01 08:59
Ender2070why isn't heApr 01 08:59
DaemonFCChromium is a nightmare to buildApr 01 09:01
schestowitzjono: Balancing Freedom and Functionality: A Design Challenge http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/03/28/balancing-freedom-and-functionality-a-design-challenge/Apr 01 09:01
schestowitzit's possible to have bothApr 01 09:02
schestowitzSo false division, like liberty and securityApr 01 09:02
schestowitzThere's not really a "striking of balance"Apr 01 09:02
DaemonFCThey figure their users are too stupid to check a boxApr 01 09:02
DaemonFCso they have to check it for themApr 01 09:02
DaemonFChence, the "bug"Apr 01 09:02
DaemonFC"Our users are retarded and furthermore, they can't read"Apr 01 09:03
DaemonFC"Let's help them install nonfree software and not tell them why they should care one way or the other"Apr 01 09:03
Ender2070ubuntu,opensuse,gentoo and others have no issues including chromiumApr 01 09:03
DaemonFCFedora doesApr 01 09:04
DaemonFCthey don't like carrying around forked codeApr 01 09:04
Ender2070they dont like bundled librariesApr 01 09:04
DaemonFCespecially when it's forked for no reason and only is there to support one programApr 01 09:04
DaemonFCbloated, difficult to supportApr 01 09:06
DaemonFCshouldn't be encouraged?Apr 01 09:06
Ender2070upstream supports itApr 01 09:06
DaemonFCjono, Your 32-bit Trash player is brokenApr 01 09:07
DaemonFCever try actually USING it on the 64-bit distribution?Apr 01 09:07
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 09:07
DaemonFCyou would break my experience with that piece of crapApr 01 09:07
DaemonFCnot just because I'd have to remove the billion places you install or symlink it to, after removing the packageApr 01 09:08
DaemonFChehApr 01 09:08
DaemonFCit's basically unusableApr 01 09:08
DaemonFCnspluginwrapper is a jokeApr 01 09:08
DaemonFCit enabled Adobe to not provide any real X86-64 support and tell users to go use nspluginwrapper, which is a hackApr 01 09:09
Ender2070I use 64-bit trash playerApr 01 09:09
Ender2070it existsApr 01 09:10
DaemonFCand while we're at it, why do you have a  Kubuntu Firefox installer that installs broken extensions into Firefox that makes things like the save dialog not work?Apr 01 09:10
DaemonFCthere's the broken user experience Apr 01 09:10
DaemonFCyeah, I'm talking about what Ubuntu doesApr 01 09:10
DaemonFCnot what you have to do yourself because they ship broken shitApr 01 09:10
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 09:10
Ender2070Jono, why doesn't kubuntu train people to use their computer? /cc DaemonFCApr 01 09:10
DaemonFCis searching kpackagekit for Firefox an exercise in elitism?Apr 01 09:11
DaemonFCis choosing what I want stuffed into it alongside of it elitism?Apr 01 09:11
DaemonFCI doubt itApr 01 09:11
Ender2070if you can't figure it out go back to windowsApr 01 09:12
DaemonFCtheir firefox-kde-support package actually breaks Firefox instead of extending it to work with KDEApr 01 09:12
Ender2070techrights isn't an ubuntu support channelApr 01 09:12
DaemonFCand their Ubufox extension is spammy garbage that hijacks your home page and breaks session restoreApr 01 09:12
Ender2070firefox-kde-support attempts to fix firefoxApr 01 09:13
DaemonFCno, I'm bagging on jono for that bonehead stupid usability postApr 01 09:13
DaemonFCthe shit Ubuntu automatically does tends to make it work worseApr 01 09:13
DaemonFCnot better :)Apr 01 09:13
DaemonFCfoisting their broken bullshit on the user is not helping anyoneApr 01 09:13
Ender2070afaik they are using the opensuse patchApr 01 09:13
Ender2070worked fine for me when I tried it outApr 01 09:13
DaemonFCright click an imageApr 01 09:14
DaemonFCSave AsApr 01 09:14
DaemonFCnote that NOTHING comes upApr 01 09:14
DaemonFCremove firefox-kde-support, restart Firefox, right click on an imageApr 01 09:14
Ender2070you can link me ur bug report instead of asking me to reproduceApr 01 09:14
DaemonFCSave AsApr 01 09:14
DaemonFCsave dialog appearsApr 01 09:15
DaemonFCfuck emApr 01 09:15
DaemonFCthey don't fix anythingApr 01 09:15
Ender2070stop being an idiot and file a bug reportApr 01 09:15
DaemonFCit's not worth filing bugs on Ubuntu because they are just ignoredApr 01 09:15
DaemonFCbecause nobody working on Ubuntu is usually qualified to fix itApr 01 09:15
Ender2070the whole point of kubuntu is the kde desktopApr 01 09:15
DaemonFCthey go and report their bugs to FedoraApr 01 09:15
DaemonFChttp://airlied.livejournal.com/72817.htmlApr 01 09:16
DaemonFCFedora's bugzilla is apparently where Ubuntu "developers" go when they get hit with a bug they don't understandApr 01 09:20
DaemonFCof course, these are the same Ubuntu developers (Canonical) that want you to buy a cheap support contract from them so they can resell you work that Red Hat doesApr 01 09:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 09:20
DaemonFCplease fix this for us, FOR FREE, so we can give it to our paying customers that we sniped from youApr 01 09:21
DaemonFCkthxbaiApr 01 09:21
DaemonFCI don't get what the $300 a year per seat support contract is for when you're buying it from a leech that can't fix the problems your organization comes acrossApr 01 09:22
DaemonFCif you're going to buy support, get it from Red Hat, they know what they're doingApr 01 09:22
DaemonFCDistributions are probably not that hard to put together (especially if you just clone Debian), MEPIS is pretty much all done up by one guyApr 01 09:24
DaemonFCCanonical is so inwardly focused that the only real work they do only benefits themApr 01 09:24
tessier_schestowitz: Still working on it. Might be back up in a few minutes, might be more extended. Seems to be another hardware problem with this thing. I'm in the process of setting up a new hardware architecture so these occasional downtimes won't happen much longer. Sorry.Apr 01 09:24
DaemonFCso they're paying people to make funky scrollbars, niceApr 01 09:25
DaemonFCgot a kernel bug? they can't help youApr 01 09:25
DaemonFCI'm not real sure I'd want to use Unity just because they made itApr 01 09:25
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624  you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux words that he utters Apr 01 12:21
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 12:21
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 12:21
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gnufreex"Fact"Apr 01 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If your #F15 stops booting, try putting selinux=0 at the end of your kernel line in GRUB. Worked for me. Just #FYI. !FedoraApr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does it offer more features than just using shareaholic, @gamerchick02Apr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @fabsh People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yeah I'd go along with that. It's obviously true (and that's the only stuff I posting today) re: http://ur1.ca/3q4r5Apr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hahahahahahahah http://ur1.ca/3q4r8Apr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @fabsh People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Questions For Ryan Gordon, The Linux Game Porter: Tomorrow at Chicago's Flourish conference, Ryan Gordon will be... http://bit.ly/fcq7uhApr 01 12:23
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gnufreexDoes he have evidence that Google paid something? schestowitz Apr 01 12:23
gnufreexHe calls it "fact"Apr 01 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I hope this does better than google buzz! http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.htmlApr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Foundation announces the Linux.com Linux Gurus for 2011 http://ur1.ca/3q4ri #linuxApr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm reading there are more aftershocks in Japan :(Apr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It is a great song @kevie, @mariannes Which version tho? Fullers Clash and Dead Ks are all goodApr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's Not Just the Downloads - #Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up http://ur1.ca/3q4sx excellent, they deserve itApr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz It's Not Just the Downloads - #Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up http://ur1.ca/3q4sx excellent, they deserve itApr 01 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Techloid #gizmodo continues attacking #Android with the talking points that originate from #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3q4tp familiar FUD.Apr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Capturing SIGCSE conversation: Computer science professors discuss teaching open source (Opensource.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/436563/rssApr 01 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder how big a chunk of the browser market Microsoft will lose when Biz finally ditches IE6Apr 01 12:24
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schestowitzgnufreex: I call him OnionApr 01 12:25
schestowitzIs Android FUD a forebearer of Linux-like success?Apr 01 12:25
schestowitzgnufreex: I call him Onionhttp://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/03/30/is-android-fud-a-forebearer-of-linux-like-success/Apr 01 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] On the plus side they may not have enough users left to notice by thenApr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Wikipedia’s April Fools: For April Fool’s Day, Wikipedia editors have collected such a wonderful set of links an... http://wmk.me/eWhdJMApr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @quaid Mmm, very tasty one-page release notes for @beefymiracle: http://beefymiracle.org/download/beefy-miracle-release-notes.pdfApr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zenwalk Linux 7.0 http://ur1.ca/3q4vh "In summary, I am pretty impressed with Zenwalk Linux 7.0. It looks good and it works well..."Apr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pregnant Women Need Support, Not Prison - http://bit.ly/fZkjXY not a joke, alas #civilisationApr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My thoughts about #Fedora 15 http://www.doom.co.il/en/?p=17 "In short, it is awesome."Apr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making plans to go to the David Rovics gig in Cologne.Apr 01 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @blondinrikard Humor: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=613614 Top price comparison. Via @HAXApr 01 12:26
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MinceRreligious people like to use the word "fact" without knowing or caring what it actually meansApr 01 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #YouTube's Reply In #Viacom Case Demolishes Each Of Viacom's Key Argument - http://bit.ly/hIy2Pr useful summary #dmcaApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sohaib Abbasi Joins Red Hat’s Board of Directors, Company Welcomes Back Dr. Steve Albrecht http://ur1.ca/3q571 #redhatApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] back home and into nice clean clothes after a nice hot "welcome home" bath. need to prep blog text for early week.Apr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] They have the W3C XFactor. Our Music Award for 2011 is out. You're welcome! http://ping.fm/U9lZL #aprilfoolsApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @vvillenave There's hope for the next version of #Windows: #Microsoft buys !ReactOS http://ur1.ca/3q4zq !free !gnu !libreApr 01 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @blondinrikard Regeringen står upp för principer mot EU: http://ur1.ca/3q570 Var man ej tvungen att följa EU? Bara när man gillar det ...Apr 01 12:27
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tessier_Yeay. Everything is back up.Apr 01 12:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, I guess you know why I refer to the phone company as AT&TApr 01 12:28
DaemonFCI mean, as PT&TApr 01 12:28
DaemonFC;)Apr 01 12:28
MinceR:DApr 01 12:28
MinceRso, why "P"?Apr 01 12:28
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MinceR:>Apr 01 12:28
tessier_Sorry for the lengthy downtime, was just about to become unavoidably indisposed for a couple of hours when it happened then had to drive over to the datacenter to actually fix it.Apr 01 12:28
DaemonFCas in state sanctioned monopolyApr 01 12:28
DaemonFCwith crappy serviceApr 01 12:29
DaemonFCand no competitorsApr 01 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] PC Linux OS discontinued http://www.pclinuxos.com/ !linuxApr 01 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Introducing Canterbury GNU/Linux http://www.gentoo.org/ !cbproject !linux !gentooApr 01 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Is it me or does #Chromium's address bar search bookmarks ONLY by title and NOT by address? Typing address forces search engine feature.Apr 01 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] because "breaking it" is just one step closer to "fixing it"Apr 01 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ml2mst PC Linux OS discontinued http://www.pclinuxos.com/ !linuxApr 01 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 status and so on http://ur1.ca/3q5f2 "One thing I’ve found is that I’m liking GNOME 3 more and more recently. "Apr 01 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 52 million downloads on 2011-04-01 16:57 UTCApr 01 12:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gentoo Linux -- Gentoo Linux News .::. Size~: 44.06 KBApr 01 12:29
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DaemonFCMinceR loves GNOME 3Apr 01 12:29
DaemonFCbecause it is made of easyApr 01 12:30
DaemonFCand MinceR  loves MP4 filesApr 01 12:30
gnufreexUh.. I mised it. DaemonFC: Why PT&T ?Apr 01 12:30
DaemonFCand advertising them loudlyApr 01 12:30
MinceRDaemonFC loves running vista7 on his macApr 01 12:30
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> People's Telephone and Telegraph  <DaemonFC> as in state sanctioned monopoly <DaemonFC> with crappy service <DaemonFC> and no competitorsApr 01 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP in #Google Summer of Code 2011 http://ur1.ca/3q5fz #gnu #graphicsApr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @mossgarden "It's the butler! It's the butler! The butler did it! I always wanted to say that!" - mr. janeApr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Geek Of The Week: Máirín Duffy http://geektrio.net/?p=6946 responsible for the good redesign of #fedora Web siteApr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Menu Button inside Window Decorations http://ur1.ca/3ox9g nice direction as optionApr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 naming vote delay http://ur1.ca/3q5kn names can wait...Apr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RMS now has his own perfume thanks to Lush. #truestory http://ur1.ca/3q5kuApr 01 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RMS now has his own perfume thanks to Lush. #truestory http://ur1.ca/3q5kxApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GIMP in Google Summer of Code 2011 .::. Size~: 3.88 KBApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek Of The Week: Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 82.41 KBApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Menu Button inside Window Decorations «  Martin’s Blog .::. Size~: 34.87 KBApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 16 naming vote delay « The Ramblings .::. Size~: 26.63 KBApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110401T171321-g52smm9.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.46 KBApr 01 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110401T171329-uelnme6.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.58 KBApr 01 12:31
DaemonFCMinceR, actually, Windows no longer actually needs Boot Camp to emulate a BIOSApr 01 12:31
DaemonFCit's now mainly just partitioning for moronsApr 01 12:31
DaemonFCand it stuffs in a few drivers that their users are too stupid to installApr 01 12:31
DaemonFCApple's EFI doesn't follow the EFI standard thoughApr 01 12:32
MinceRit's ok, they pulled the "boot camp bricks your mac" trick ages agoApr 01 12:32
DaemonFCand can cause problems with WindowsApr 01 12:32
MinceRit will be something new next timeApr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @jrick: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5508110/why-is-this-program-erroneously-rejected-by-three-c-compilersApr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Villa: MPL Beta 2- as FAQ http://lwn.net/Articles/436584/rssApr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fixed ISO images for #Debian 6.0.1 released http://ur1.ca/3p633Apr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My Wish For Singapore (aka my manifesto-in-making): http://wp.me/pj2fj-ouApr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Marek Files Patches For Floating-Point In Mesa Master: Forget about the fun being had today on April Fools' Day ... http://bit.ly/hXMTZDApr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Obama basically said nuclear energy is safe b/c it "doesn't emit CO₂". Smoking doesn't cause AIDS, but that doesn't make smoking safe.Apr 01 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat targeting UK growth in 'non-traditional sectors' http://ur1.ca/3q5q1 #redhat #uk #linux #gnuApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: visual c++ - Why is this program erroneously rejected by three C++ compilers? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 134.88 KBApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Villa: MPL Beta 2- as FAQ [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.53 KBApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian -- News -- Fixed ISO images for Debian 6.0.1 released .::. Size~: 8.84 KBApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Wish For Singapore (aka my manifesto-in-making) « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 25.76 KBApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Marek Files Patches For Floating-Point In Mesa Master .::. Size~: 19.95 KBApr 01 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat targeting UK growth in 'non-traditional sectors' - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 91.07 KBApr 01 12:32
DaemonFCMinceR, You can boot Linux on EFI, but internally it represents it as an e820 biosApr 01 12:33
DaemonFCI'm not sure that the user has any reason to care thoughApr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.39 RC1 debuts new block device plugging model http://ur1.ca/3q5um "Both Fedora 15 and Ubuntu 11.04 [...] Linux 2.6.38 kernel"Apr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/436561/rssApr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #KDE Polishes Linux but Leaves a Few Little Streaks http://ur1.ca/3q5vf "The latest KDE version is well worth moving from its GNOME..."Apr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 vs. #Ubuntu 11.04: The Battle for #Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/3q5wy "both offer the new-to-Linux user two high quality choices."Apr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Installing the Canterbury distro :-)Apr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Bookmarklet - Identi.ca" http://ur1.ca/36b3 Bookmarklet for new bookmarks #bookmarklet #identica #bookmark #pluginApr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 5 Preview Available Now http://ur1.ca/3q5yn yes, five. "It turns out that Mozilla was not kidding."Apr 01 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Government unveils IT strategy, with open source at the fore http://ur1.ca/3q600 let's hope they mean it this time. #ukApr 01 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux 2.6.39 RC1 debuts new block device plugging model  - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 115.07 KBApr 01 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Friday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.25 KBApr 01 12:34
MinceRthe user ended up with shoddy hardware anywayApr 01 12:34
DaemonFCthe new block device model was what was causing the XFS problems I encounteredApr 01 12:34
DaemonFCbut they claim to have fixed it nowApr 01 12:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 15 vs. Ubuntu 11.04: The Battle for Linux Desktop Supremacy | TechSource .::. Size~: 94.94 KBApr 01 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bookmarklet - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.34 KBApr 01 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 5 Preview Available Now .::. Size~: 128.32 KBApr 01 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government unveils IT strategy, with open source at the fore - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 90.03 KBApr 01 12:35
DaemonFCDoes Firefox 5 pass ACID 3 or use my GPU in any meaningful way?Apr 01 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Creative Commons mix for Japan Relief feat Hiiragi Fukuda, BinauralDiaries, monome community: http://bit.ly/hZ2nQR via @freemusicarchivApr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! http://bit.ly/gISWVHApr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla !Firefox Signage [img] http://ping.fm/fMRSmApr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You see a lot of headlines saying something isn't happening these days, like "Novell isn't worrying about the Redhat code changes"Apr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I keep wondering, is that really news?Apr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.17 Does Vista File Dialogs: Two weeks have passed since the Wine 1.3.16 development release that integr... http://bit.ly/foMIUHApr 01 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] \FOSS Development Is My Full-Time Job: Patricia Santana Cruz http://ur1.ca/3q6a5Apr 01 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Music Archive: Creative Commons Mix for Japan Relief by Jane at CC .::. Size~: 22.25 KBApr 01 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.41 KBApr 01 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brilliant. «  Luis Villa .::. Size~: 20.54 KBApr 01 12:36
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DaemonFCand does it actually start KTorrent and not spit out "The protocol isn't registered"?Apr 01 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Development Is My Full-Time Job: Patricia Santana Cruz | Muktware .::. Size~: 37.19 KBApr 01 12:36
DaemonFCit's funny how Opera at least manages to integrate with GNOME and KDE and it's not even free softwareApr 01 12:37
DaemonFCand after 7 years, Firefox still does not integrate into KDE without some really awful hacksApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great eclectic compilation of numbers station-inspired music by @PublicSpacesLab: http://bit.ly/epe0wq (via @cdmblogs)Apr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DailySport now in administration http://is.gd/pxj0bU the word "newspaper" feels as natural in this context as "news" is to #FoxNewsApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to BAP - Halv Su Wild, just bought the albumApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] heard the COO of this #webuyanycar on #5live earlier about this http://is.gd/WTuNTv I'd trust #DelBoyTrotter more than him and his companyApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] kept trying to use "2yrs ago" despite being reminded Jul09 / Jul10 - Jul 10 is 9mths ago, even Jul09 isn't 2yrs ago, never once appologisedApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when 96% of your customers fall into the gap, it smells of a con, the OFT finally found and acted on, despite their #PR offensive to spin itApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The Ideal Delicious Alternative? Status.net Launches Freelish.us! http://rww.to/dS3Uwi Yay! Go @evan go! /via @marshallkApr 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Music from Numbers: An Eclectic, Free (CC) Compilation of Numbers Station-Inspired Tracks .::. Size~: 50.88 KBApr 01 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux and #ARM Power New 10-Inch Netbooks http://ur1.ca/3q6ib "run the open source operating system."Apr 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Daily Sport and Sunday Sport owner in administration .::. Size~: 54.88 KBApr 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Webuyanycar.com offers just one in 25 the price quoted online | Money | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 245.94 KBApr 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Ideal Delicious Alternative? Status.net Launches Freelish.us! .::. Size~: 52.58 KBApr 01 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux and ARM Power New 10-Inch Netbooks - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 87.59 KBApr 01 12:37
DaemonFCMinceR, The problem with the Ubuntu KDE Firefox integration plug-in is they didn't update it for Firefox 4Apr 01 12:38
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thing that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 12:38
DaemonFCand so it actually ends up breaking Firefox worse than it already isApr 01 12:38
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 12:38
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 12:38
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 12:38
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 12:38
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 12:38
Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 12:38
MinceRthere probably are a couple extensions that also weren't updatedApr 01 12:38
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MinceRdoesn't mean it will never get doneApr 01 12:38
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Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 12:38
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 12:38
MinceREnder2070: ever heard of pastebin?Apr 01 12:38
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 12:38
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 12:39
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 12:39
Ender2070 [15:38] [Ender2070(+i)] [4:freenode/#techrights(+nt)] [Act: 3,5,6]  -- more --Apr 01 12:39
Ender2070[#techrights]Apr 01 12:39
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thing that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 12:39
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 12:39
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 12:39
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 12:39
DaemonFCMinceR, How come Opera doesn't need any user intervention to just work with KDE?Apr 01 12:39
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Android FUD a forebearer of #Linux-like success? http://ur1.ca/3q6js nicely putApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Indonesia: Citibank debt collectors arrested in death of client over credit card http://ur1.ca/3q6l2Apr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Join the discussion on #OER innovations & impact! http://get-i.org/6019uClR How can CC help in dev tools & edu documentation? via @GETideasApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic http://ur1.ca/3q6lu then the Exxon-funded FUD evaporatedApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic http://ur1.ca/3q6lu then the Exxon-funded FUD evaporatedApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Creepy’ app threatens the privacy of social network users http://ur1.ca/3q6m6 many applications are like that these daysApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Do Not Track offers a method for users to protect their #privacy without having to turn off advertisements entirely. https://eff.org/r.27TApr 01 12:39
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is andyc with 94 dents!Apr 01 12:39
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Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 12:39
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DaemonFChell, even Chrome uses xdg-openApr 01 12:39
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MinceRcrapfloodingApr 01 12:39
Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 12:39
MinceRthat's really lowApr 01 12:39
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 12:39
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 12:39
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 12:39
Ender2070 [15:38] [Ender2070(+i)] [4:freenode/#techrights(+nt)] [Act: 3,5,6]  -- more --Apr 01 12:39
Ender2070[#techrights]Apr 01 12:39
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 12:39
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 12:40
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 12:40
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 12:40
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 12:40
Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 12:40
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gnufreexEnder2070: Why are you spamming? Apr 01 12:40
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Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 12:40
MinceRgnufreex: he ran out of argumentsApr 01 12:40
MinceReven old onesApr 01 12:40
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 12:40
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 12:40
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 12:40
Ender2070 [15:38] [Ender2070(+i)] [4:freenode/#techrights(+nt)] [Act: 3,5,6]  -- more --Apr 01 12:40
Ender2070[#techrights]Apr 01 12:40
Ender2070Mincer - you're the trollApr 01 12:40
Ender2070Mincer - got any evidence that i'm working for Lefty?Apr 01 12:40
Ender207014:54 < MinceR> also, the typical troll attitude "if it pisses you off, it must be right" is presentApr 01 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK: Researchers say open source lowers costs, increases security http://ur1.ca/3ps04 #freesw #ukApr 01 12:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK: Researchers say open source lowers costs, increases security — .::. Size~: 29.52 KBApr 01 12:41
MinceREnder2070: ask the others, i've heard it from themApr 01 12:41
Ender2070im not spammingApr 01 12:41
MinceRright, you're crapfloodingApr 01 12:41
Ender2070im just wondering why when I change my opinion on mono, it makes me a troll spammerApr 01 12:41
DaemonFCMinceR, He's just recirculating the facts as he sees themApr 01 12:41
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 12:41
MinceRyou've pasted your screen contents at least 3 timesApr 01 12:41
gnufreexEnder2070 If you are not working for troll, then you have bigger problems. You need to get your head examined. Apr 01 12:42
MinceRhe needs to get his head examined anywayApr 01 12:42
DaemonFCby a state-sanctioned psychiatrist who will prescribe some aspartameApr 01 12:42
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 12:42
MinceRDaemonFC: they use aspartame for this now?Apr 01 12:42
DaemonFChe's one of the aspartame kills conspiracy theoristsApr 01 12:42
Ender2070gnufreex - folie a deuxApr 01 12:43
Ender2070you guys are feeding yourselves with insanityApr 01 12:43
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTI4MQApr 01 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Marek Files Patches For Floating-Point In Mesa Master .::. Size~: 19.88 KBApr 01 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PCLinuxOS homepage http://www.pclinuxos.com/Apr 01 12:44
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MinceREnder2070: the mono apologist bullshit you've started parroting has been disproven ages agoApr 01 12:44
DaemonFC"hypothetical Linux disaster"Apr 01 12:44
MinceRfind something newApr 01 12:44
DaemonFChere's a real one, the video drivers barely workApr 01 12:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 12:44
MinceREnder2070: also, if you think this is "insanity", you can leaveApr 01 12:44
DaemonFCand it's like a few lines in a patch to fix most of thatApr 01 12:44
MinceREnder2070: nobody here insists on talking to you, afaikApr 01 12:44
DaemonFCand they won't apply it I'm sureApr 01 12:44
DaemonFCif they allowed floating point textures, that alone would solve a great deal of the incompatibility issuesApr 01 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the new BAP album. Niedecken is totally rocking! :)Apr 01 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just trying out Sonata. A very nice MPD frontend for Gnome.Apr 01 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good video interview with Assange on Underground, WikiLeaks, revolutions http://is.gd/O25Df8Apr 01 12:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange im Exklusiv-Interview - aspekte - ZDFmediathek - ZDF Mediathek .::. Size~: 9.84 KBApr 01 12:46
DaemonFCMinceR, Source code itself is not infringing iircApr 01 12:46
DaemonFCWhy not make a configure switch and let the user decide?Apr 01 12:46
MinceRDaemonFC: the source code of what?Apr 01 12:47
DaemonFCI don't get why they argue that everyone has to have a broken OpenGL stack just because Fedora can't legally flip that switchApr 01 12:47
DaemonFCMesaApr 01 12:47
DaemonFCfloating2 branchApr 01 12:47
MinceRand what's the issue?Apr 01 12:47
DaemonFCthey won't merge itApr 01 12:47
MinceRsomeone holds patents on floating point textures?Apr 01 12:47
DaemonFCso a lot of apps are just broken, the endApr 01 12:47
DaemonFCapparentlyApr 01 12:47
MinceRwell, if it's possible, they should pull a decss on thatApr 01 12:47
MinceR(that is, keep it optional, keep it separate, serve it from a country that has no sw patents)Apr 01 12:48
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gnufreex<Ender2070> im just wondering why when I change my opinion on mono, it makes me a troll spammerApr 01 12:48
gnufreexYou first got attacked and defamed by a troll on his site(allong with other IRC regulars) and he said he'll leak your data if you don't change your opinion. He even harrased you with Fedora Amdasaodors, you told me so. Now you are chatting with troll on twitter and protecting his talking points. Apr 01 12:48
schestowitztessier_: thanks so much for handling the problem!! :-) I'm gratefulApr 01 12:48
MinceR(and of course don't build essential functionality on it)Apr 01 12:48
DaemonFCMinceR, Too lateApr 01 12:48
DaemonFCa lot of third party applications need it to work alreadyApr 01 12:48
gnufreexEnder2070: That happend all by chance.. yeah, right.Apr 01 12:49
Ender2070gnufreex - really, he said that?Apr 01 12:49
Ender2070where?Apr 01 12:49
MinceRwell, then all of those applications run the risk of being blocked by a patent infringement case in many countriesApr 01 12:49
Ender2070everything has patent riskApr 01 12:49
Ender2070even your foodApr 01 12:50
Ender2070(monsanto)Apr 01 12:50
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MinceRi can easily switch to food that has no such patent riskApr 01 12:51
gnufreex<Ender2070> everything has patent riskApr 01 12:51
gnufreexGoing by the side of the road you are in risk to get hit by a carApr 01 12:51
MinceRif almost all of your desktop depends on mono and m$ starts suing, can you afford to switch?Apr 01 12:51
Ender2070what cpu are u running mincer?Apr 01 12:51
gnufreexSo why not walk on the midle of the roeadApr 01 12:51
gnufreex?Apr 01 12:51
MinceRwhat if it's been developed for 10 years and you don't have much to go back to?Apr 01 12:51
Ender2070i bet theres patents on all sorts of things you're runningApr 01 12:51
MinceREnder2070: i've paid for my cpu, they can't sue me for thatApr 01 12:51
gnufreexMono is middle of the highway. Ender2070Apr 01 12:51
gnufreexBigger riskApr 01 12:51
gnufreex100000xApr 01 12:51
gnufreexbiggerApr 01 12:52
MinceRmono is designed to slot into a place where it can do the most damageApr 01 12:52
MinceRmaybe it could do even more damage if they could somehow wedge it into the kernelApr 01 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama, why do you insist on fucking over what the majority of Americans want? We, collectively, are your boss http://ur1.ca/3q6qnApr 01 12:52
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schestowitzThe klernel hardly accepts non-C codeApr 01 12:52
schestowitzNo imminent risk of mono thereApr 01 12:52
Ender2070then why dont we make more apps with monoApr 01 12:53
Ender2070make them sue usApr 01 12:53
Ender2070get this over withApr 01 12:53
gnufreexEnder2070: Did you see De Icaza's statements recently... boosting WP7 and being happy that Nokia drops MeeGo?Apr 01 12:53
MinceRbecause we don't want to waste our time on developing such crap if we already know it would mean walking into a trap?Apr 01 12:53
gnufreexYou trust that kind of person.Apr 01 12:53
gnufreexif you use monoApr 01 12:53
schestowitzyupApr 01 12:54
Ender2070well directhex is a windows user pretending to be an ubuntu packagerApr 01 12:54
MinceRwho knows, maybe Ender2070 loves kin7 tooApr 01 12:54
schestowitzSweaty Steve trusts himApr 01 12:54
MinceRafter all, it's built on his favorite monoApr 01 12:54
MinceRoops, .netApr 01 12:54
MinceRbut basically the same thingApr 01 12:54
schestowitzEnder2070: he uses Windows??Apr 01 12:54
MinceRm$ java :>Apr 01 12:54
gnufreex<Ender2070> well directhex is a windows user pretending to be an ubuntu packagerApr 01 12:54
gnufreexReally?Apr 01 12:54
gnufreexClosed Windows user, or full time?Apr 01 12:54
MinceRwouldn't surprise me at all, though i haven't heard of him making packagesApr 01 12:54
schestowitzgnufreex: you mean "closet"?Apr 01 12:55
gnufreexYeahApr 01 12:55
gnufreexTypoApr 01 12:55
Ender2070follow his twitter, always boosting windowsApr 01 12:56
Ender2070dont get me wrongApr 01 12:57
Ender2070im pro open source and anti windowsApr 01 12:57
Ender2070i just stopped caring about mono, they play by the rules, its ms that doesntApr 01 12:57
MinceRwhat rules do they play by?Apr 01 12:57
MinceRseriously, whom does m$'s act fool?Apr 01 12:58
MinceRthe monomaniacs' argument of mono being safe is so full of holes it isn't even funnyApr 01 12:58
gnufreex<Ender2070> follow his twitter, always boosting windowsApr 01 12:58
gnufreexExactly my point, he is textbook MS fanboy and if MS screws us all he will be fine and just get a job at Microsoft. Apr 01 12:58
MinceRm$ refused to make a statement about all patents .net/mono relies onApr 01 12:58
MinceRthey refused to provide a patent licenseApr 01 12:58
MinceRthey keep insinuating that they will sueApr 01 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On a bit of a rock binge. Now watching !Bruce live in Barca.Apr 01 12:59
MinceRthey maintain an attitude that isn't only hostile to free software, but also to any existing or potential competitors, including small sw businessesApr 01 12:59
MinceRthey have a long history of abusing everything they can to suppress competitionApr 01 12:59
MinceReven just the fact that m$ controls where the languages, the vm and the APIs go is a weapon in their handsApr 01 13:00
MinceRand some people grab that weapon and put it in their own mouthsApr 01 13:00
MinceRgnufreex: actually, he may believe he will get a job at m$, but it's far from guaranteedApr 01 13:01
MinceRgnufreex: especially if he's living in a place where IT pro salaries are higher than, say, in indiaApr 01 13:01
gnufreexEnder2070: Tell me one reason why De Icaza won't help Microsfot interest? He loves everything they do, and he intends to help them. So if that means screwing over FOSS badly, he will do it. Everything for job at MS.  Apr 01 13:01
Ender2070the only company that can do anything is MicrosoftApr 01 13:01
MinceRif m$ screws us all, the entire IT industry might fall in m$'s handsApr 01 13:02
MinceRthat means less jobsApr 01 13:02
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gnufreex<Ender2070> the only company that can do anything is MicrosoftApr 01 13:03
gnufreexhow's that? Apr 01 13:03
gnufreexI thnk they are only that can't do anything properly. Apr 01 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 'Creepy’ app. Hehe, was it written by the "Hadron Quark" Microsoft Astroturfer?Apr 01 13:04
schestowitzOnly in America(C): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3b8thKULpoApr 01 13:05
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Ender2070ughApr 01 13:05
Ender2070I mean in regards to the patent situationApr 01 13:05
Ender2070they own the patents its their gameApr 01 13:05
Ender2070it really dont bother me if people cant use their mono apps, but im not going to scream and flail my arms at peopleApr 01 13:06
MinceRwell, actually oracle also has a patent suite in the same businessApr 01 13:06
Ender2070i dont use them myselfApr 01 13:06
gnufreexEnder2070: I still don't understand. They can sell patents to a troll. Apr 01 13:06
schestowitzThey doApr 01 13:06
MinceRbut everyone outside those two companies is in dangerApr 01 13:06
schestowitzNot just canApr 01 13:06
Ender2070when I use something that has mono ill careApr 01 13:06
schestowitz!google zemlin microsoft auction patentsApr 01 13:06
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MinceREnder2070: until then you'll just come here and tell us "mono is free software" even though it's not, implying that it's safe to useApr 01 13:07
Ender2070first of all im a KDE user, nobody uses C# thereApr 01 13:07
MinceRwhile you know bloody well that it is notApr 01 13:07
Ender2070mono IS free softwareApr 01 13:07
MinceRand you know that people will tell you that you're wrongApr 01 13:07
Ender2070what license is it underApr 01 13:07
MinceRread the FSD, and think that overApr 01 13:07
schestowitzNoTuch?Apr 01 13:07
schestowitzAnd NoDroid?Apr 01 13:07
schestowitzMono is more like open coreApr 01 13:07
schestowitzAnd it's patents-riddledApr 01 13:07
Ender2070if mono is under a free software license I don't care about external issuesApr 01 13:08
Ender2070firefox is trademark-riddledApr 01 13:08
schestowitzIt's Microsoft's "my first c#/VS" present for Linux usersApr 01 13:08
Ender2070people use itApr 01 13:08
MinceRFSD is not the OSD, it's not about copyright licensesApr 01 13:08
MinceRit's about whether you have those freedoms or notApr 01 13:08
gnufreexEnder2070: That is stupid, you can strip Firefox trademark. You can't strip out patents.Apr 01 13:08
MinceRwhich does not only depend on copyright licensesApr 01 13:08
Ender2070ill boycott mono for patents when people boycott firefox for trademarksApr 01 13:08
MinceRthen go boycott firefox for trademarksApr 01 13:08
Ender2070I already doApr 01 13:09
MinceRyou could use GNU IceCat or IceweaselApr 01 13:09
Ender2070I use a better browserApr 01 13:09
Ender2070no xulrunner bullshitApr 01 13:09
MinceRyou use crashium?Apr 01 13:09
Ender2070chromium, even konquererApr 01 13:09
Ender2070arora, rekonq, etcApr 01 13:09
gnufreex<Ender2070> if mono is under a free software license I don't care about external issuesApr 01 13:10
gnufreexSo if someone decompiles Windows and post source code on net under GPL, you will claim it is Free Software? Apr 01 13:10
Ender2070anything without xulrunnerApr 01 13:10
gnufreexThat is called WarezApr 01 13:10
MinceRcue the old "my browser is better than yours due to subjective values and preferences, therefore i rule and you suck"Apr 01 13:10
gnufreexMono is WarezApr 01 13:10
MinceRcan we skip this whole crap already?Apr 01 13:10
Ender2070gnufreex - well if mono actually has reverse engineered windows code in it, its illegal not just a patent riskApr 01 13:10
MinceRi think we had meaningful discussion before Ender2070 started trolling in here.Apr 01 13:10
Ender2070mincer, thats the arguement you're usingApr 01 13:11
MinceRis it?Apr 01 13:11
Ender2070'my firefox is better than yours because of my free software values, google spies on people, therefor I rule and you're a troll'Apr 01 13:11
MinceRcitation neededApr 01 13:12
gnufreexEnder2070: It is written using Microsoft proprietary docs. The publicly available part is nothing, De Icaza has stuff that he got from Microsoft directly. Apr 01 13:12
Ender2070look up paraphrase - websters.comApr 01 13:12
MinceRyou're putting words in my mouth, plain and simpleApr 01 13:12
MinceR(another old trolling tactic)Apr 01 13:12
Ender2070gnufreex - .NET is a java rip off, i bet you its all java patents anywayApr 01 13:12
MinceRseriously, are you going to try the entire "linsux" playbook on us today?Apr 01 13:12
gnufreexEnde2070: Patents don't work that wayApr 01 13:13
Ender2070I see the room is chock full of patent lawyersApr 01 13:13
MinceRstarting with you, yesApr 01 13:13
Ender2070im not spreading the patent fearApr 01 13:13
MinceRyou're spreading a false sense of securityApr 01 13:14
Ender2070theres patents on all sorts of things in linuxApr 01 13:14
gnufreexIf patent says "Aparatus that implement JITer on .NET" then that patent has nothing to do with Java JIT and all to do with .NET clones. It is .NET specificApr 01 13:14
gnufreexand it easier to get such patentApr 01 13:14
Ender2070we dont boycott because of a patent trollApr 01 13:14
Ender2070we didnt boycott sambaApr 01 13:14
gnufreexsince it is more narowApr 01 13:14
MinceRthere's a difference between "some people might own patents on this" and "this is a framework designed around a set of patents to be a tool of attack"Apr 01 13:14
MinceRsamba isn't worth using beyond being compatible with legacy m$ crap anywayApr 01 13:14
MinceRonce you get rid of the legacy m$ crap, you can also get rid of sambaApr 01 13:15
gnufreexSamba has all things coveredApr 01 13:15
Ender2070legacy? people actually do use this stuffApr 01 13:15
Ender2070even if you dont like itApr 01 13:15
MinceRand before you bring up the ages-old wine argument, nobody here proposes writing apps for wine eitherApr 01 13:15
MinceRyes, i'm fully aware that it's actively foisted on peopleApr 01 13:16
gnufreexSamba didn't kiss up to MSFT and betrayed community, they took MSFT to court. Apr 01 13:16
MinceRand i'm fully aware that people use it a lot more than they really need toApr 01 13:16
Ender2070i dont support wineApr 01 13:16
MinceRdoesn't matter what you supportApr 01 13:16
MinceRyou're just trying all the m$ fanboy trolling attempts and talking pointsApr 01 13:16
Ender2070i dont talk here very much but it seems like when i do im a troll reading a scriptApr 01 13:17
MinceRlike i've said, these have all been discussed thoroughly here and elsewhereApr 01 13:17
MinceRwell yes, you look a lot like a troll reading and acting on a scriptApr 01 13:17
MinceRi wish you'd stopApr 01 13:17
Ender2070yet im notApr 01 13:17
MinceRthen you're just plain stupidApr 01 13:17
Ender2070its just a difference of opinion that you dont like to seeApr 01 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Imagine your ISP dictated make/model PC it *allows you* to use on its network; that's what mobile carriers do. #ATT #TMobile #mergerApr 01 13:17
MinceRnot really betterApr 01 13:17
MinceRno, it's not a difference of opinion, it's a difference between having a clue and lacking oneApr 01 13:17
Ender2070see?Apr 01 13:18
MinceRor the difference between trolling or not trollingApr 01 13:18
Ender2070my opinion makes my cluelessApr 01 13:18
Ender2070you're the master of truthApr 01 13:18
MinceRbut you said you aren't trolling, so if we assume you aren't lying there then it's the alternativeApr 01 13:18
MinceRthe truth is not a matter of opinionApr 01 13:18
MinceRthat m$ refused to provide a patent license that covers .net/mono is not an opinion, it's a factApr 01 13:18
MinceRthat m$ refused to provide even their vague "promise" that covers the _entirety_ of .net/mono is not an opinion, it's a factApr 01 13:19
Ender2070you'll find out what happens in realityApr 01 13:19
MinceReven if you read their vague "promise" attentively you'll notice these factsApr 01 13:19
MinceRm$'s history of behavior is also well known and well documentedApr 01 13:20
MinceRand also not a matter of opinionApr 01 13:20
gnufreex<Ender2070> you'll find out what happens in realityApr 01 13:20
gnufreexIn Microsoft Real World(tm) ?Apr 01 13:20
MinceRMicrosoft® Reality™, which only the True Believers™ may seeApr 01 13:20
Ender2070no because microsoft is irrelevantApr 01 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I woke up this morning, I could barely breathe. Just an empty impression in that bed where you used to be..."Apr 01 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Empty sky.... empty sky.... I woke up this morning to an empty sky...."Apr 01 13:21
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MinceRall you need to do to see it is to accept ballmer as your lord and saviorApr 01 13:21
Ender2070you'll be hard pressed to find a strong MS presence at my homeApr 01 13:21
Ender2070you might find a gaming pc and that's about itApr 01 13:22
MinceRwill i be hard pressed to find a strong m$ presence in your thoughts and ideals?Apr 01 13:22
Ender2070yeahApr 01 13:22
Ender2070im not an ms zealotApr 01 13:22
MinceRthen you were lying when you said you weren't trollingApr 01 13:22
MinceRmake up your mind alreadyApr 01 13:22
Ender2070your logic is flawedApr 01 13:23
MinceRexplainApr 01 13:23
gnufreexHere is what will happen in reality with mono. (and it is happening now) more anti -GNU/Linux patent extortion, backroom deals, and all that while De Icaza followers claiming that mono is safe and that is kernel that belongs to MSFT. Bussines will be vary of "Linux" because it "contains" Microsoft "IP" (which is in fact Mono) and Mono will hamper adoption.Apr 01 13:23
Ender2070im very clearly anti microsoftApr 01 13:23
gnufreexFailing that, if adoption remains strongApr 01 13:23
MinceRi can see thatApr 01 13:23
gnufreexthem MSFT will move patents to CPTN and sue Apr 01 13:24
MinceR"mono is free software" "mono is safe"Apr 01 13:24
MinceRso very anti-m$Apr 01 13:24
gnufreexThis wont happen tomorow or next yearApr 01 13:24
Ender2070i never said mono is safeApr 01 13:24
Ender2070i said i didnt careApr 01 13:24
Ender2070ms should sueApr 01 13:24
MinceRnext time we'll hear the "windows is so great" "anti-m$" phrase too?Apr 01 13:24
Ender2070im tired of the debate, they should just sue and get it over withApr 01 13:24
MinceRthey won't, until more stuff depends on mono, unless they get really desperate and hurriedApr 01 13:25
Ender2070if nobody uses mono they'll never end up suingApr 01 13:26
Ender2070people will always think its safeApr 01 13:26
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Ender2070im tired of people changing the definition of free software thoughApr 01 13:27
Ender2070like people saying google android isnt freeApr 01 13:27
MinceRnobody changed itApr 01 13:27
MinceRyou just never bothered to read itApr 01 13:27
Ender2070yes they didApr 01 13:27
MinceRor you never bothered to try to understand what it meansApr 01 13:27
Ender2070I can get the complete source code for monoApr 01 13:27
Ender2070and androidApr 01 13:27
MinceRor you're confusing it with the definition of open sourceApr 01 13:27
MinceRah, so "shared source" is free software too?Apr 01 13:28
Ender2070mono doesn't invalidate any of the 4 freedoms from gnu.orgApr 01 13:28
MinceRit doesn't invalidate them, it just doesn't uphold themApr 01 13:28
Ender2070it doesnt block anyApr 01 13:28
MinceRexcept all four of themApr 01 13:28
Ender2070howApr 01 13:29
Ender2070you can get mono, make changes and distribute those changes to anyoneApr 01 13:29
MinceRsince you aren't allowed to use, modify or distribute code that infringes on patents you can't legally useApr 01 13:29
MinceRlegality is key here, otherwise any warez is also free softwareApr 01 13:29
MinceRmaking the term meaninglessApr 01 13:29
MinceRin fact, then any software of whatever kind would be "free software"Apr 01 13:30
MinceRthey're technically possible to run, copy and modify, after allApr 01 13:30
schestowitz[21:27] <Ender2070> im tired of people changing the definition of free software thoughApr 01 13:30
schestowitz??Apr 01 13:30
schestowitzFSDApr 01 13:30
schestowitz1908sApr 01 13:30
schestowitz1980sApr 01 13:31
DaemonFCfree software generally has the same definitionApr 01 13:31
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Ender2070people try to say google isn't being open when they don't provide android 3 sourceApr 01 13:31
MinceR"being open" has many meaningsApr 01 13:31
schestowitz[21:29] <Ender2070> you can get mono, make changes and distribute those changes to anyoneApr 01 13:31
schestowitzgplv3Apr 01 13:31
DaemonFCas long as they provide what they are legally obligated to, they're fineApr 01 13:31
Ender2070none of the licenses require active development to be publicApr 01 13:31
DaemonFCand better than most companies who use Linux and defy attempts to make them turn over their codeApr 01 13:32
Ender207016:31 < DaemonFC> as long as they provide what they are legally obligated to, they're fineApr 01 13:32
schestowitz!google mcp ecma deviaionApr 01 13:32
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MinceRi think the complaints regarding android are mostly about the openness (or lack thereof) of the development of the platformApr 01 13:32
Ender2070+1Apr 01 13:32
Ender2070if they comply with the license they are free softwareApr 01 13:32
MinceR(and certain other issues, such as injecting nonfree stuff into android, such as official google apps)Apr 01 13:32
DaemonFCmost android devices floating around are GPL violationsApr 01 13:32
MinceRno, that's not how the FSD worksApr 01 13:32
DaemonFCespecially the no name far east knockoffsApr 01 13:32
MinceRbut you clearly can't be bothered to read itApr 01 13:32
Ender2070well then mincerApr 01 13:32
Ender2070linux contains vfatApr 01 13:32
Ender2070so linux isn't free?Apr 01 13:32
MinceRor to understand what the difference between the FSD and the OSD isApr 01 13:32
MinceREnder2070: it might have nonfree bitsApr 01 13:33
Ender2070so its non free thenApr 01 13:33
DaemonFCEnder2070, The implementation of VFAT in Linux does not violate patentsApr 01 13:33
Ender2070why u running a non free osApr 01 13:33
MinceRbut at least gnu/linux can function without themApr 01 13:33
DaemonFCand the code is FPL v 2Apr 01 13:33
DaemonFC*GPLApr 01 13:33
MinceRalso, afaik it's kind of unclear whether VFAT actually violates those patentsApr 01 13:33
Ender2070you can get mono with the non free bits removedApr 01 13:33
DaemonFCthey inadvertently violated one patent, but they fixed thatApr 01 13:33
schestowitz!google oliva linux open coreApr 01 13:33
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MinceREnder2070: i doubt that the result would be usable at allApr 01 13:34
Ender2070mincer - ask fedora usersApr 01 13:34
MinceRi thought fedora didn't ship monoApr 01 13:34
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Ender2070it doesntApr 01 13:34
MinceRat least not by defaultApr 01 13:34
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DaemonFCMinceR, Most companies in the US are instructed by their legal department to NOT research whether there are patents that cover their productsApr 01 13:34
MinceREnder2070: so what should i ask fedora users?Apr 01 13:34
Ender2070fedora users who use mono stuffApr 01 13:34
DaemonFCbecause knowing about it and doing it anyway = more damages Apr 01 13:34
MinceRDaemonFC: yeah, triple damagesApr 01 13:34
Ender2070maybe they dont even have those patents in CanadaApr 01 13:35
Ender2070who knowsApr 01 13:35
MinceRunlikelyApr 01 13:35
Ender2070I know mozilla doesnt own the firefox trademark in CanadaApr 01 13:35
MinceRif canada has sw patents, it's a prime candidate for registering themApr 01 13:35
DaemonFCpatent violations and the "damages" are considered a cost of doing businessApr 01 13:35
DaemonFCif you make any nontrivial widget in the US and sell a lot of them, the trolls will find youApr 01 13:35
DaemonFCit's a matter of whenApr 01 13:35
MinceRand if canada doesn't allow sw patents, it's still under pressure from corporate-owned USA to change thatApr 01 13:36
Ender2070if Canada doesnt have sw patentsApr 01 13:36
Ender2070then the mono issue is mootApr 01 13:36
DaemonFCMicrosoft has settled a lot of lawsuits over laws they lobbied forApr 01 13:36
Ender2070but im sure it doesApr 01 13:36
MinceRDaemonFC: what if you depend on a framework that's designed to infringe on a large set of patents all owned by the same company though?Apr 01 13:36
DaemonFCthey consider that a cost of doing businessApr 01 13:36
MinceRDaemonFC: and it's clearly visible that you depend on that frameworkApr 01 13:36
MinceREnder2070: it's moot as far as your personal usage of it goes, that isApr 01 13:37
DaemonFCMinceR, Mono is not popular because of what you just saidApr 01 13:37
Ender2070wellApr 01 13:37
DaemonFCyou can't violate that many patents without treble damagesApr 01 13:37
Ender2070you're saying mono is non-free due to patentsApr 01 13:37
MinceRDaemonFC: it's popular because clueless people believe that it isn't a useless pile of crapApr 01 13:37
DaemonFCany jury will find that you did it willfullyApr 01 13:37
Ender2070if sw patents dont exist, then what?Apr 01 13:37
MinceREnder2070: it's a bit more complicated than thatApr 01 13:37
Ender2070it becomes non free for another reason?Apr 01 13:37
MinceREnder2070: but you need to realize that not everyone lives in canadaApr 01 13:37
MinceREnder2070: you also need to realize that even canadian companies may do business in ways that make them liableApr 01 13:38
MinceREnder2070: say, if they sell (or just export) software to other countriesApr 01 13:38
MinceRUSA is a major market for softwareApr 01 13:38
schestowitz[21:37] <Ender2070> it becomes non free for another reason?Apr 01 13:38
schestowitzYesApr 01 13:38
DaemonFCand when you get a Linux distribution without MPEG support or a broken OpenGL stack, it doesn't matter where you liveApr 01 13:38
MinceRtherefore the existence of sw patents in the USA is importantApr 01 13:38
DaemonFCit was a US law that did it to youApr 01 13:38
schestowitzLook up the stuff Novell sells around monoApr 01 13:38
schestowitzIt's like open 'core'Apr 01 13:38
schestowitzNovell promotes Microsoft with proprietary wares built on MonkApr 01 13:38
DaemonFCMinceR, The xfs driver code in 2.6.39-rc1 is brokenApr 01 13:39
DaemonFCand will stop the buildApr 01 13:39
DaemonFChehApr 01 13:39
DaemonFCI had to run make instead of make-kpkg to get a reason why it failedApr 01 13:39
MinceRsomething tells me not many people use XFS nowadays :>Apr 01 13:40
DaemonFCmake-kpkg suppresses make errors :PApr 01 13:40
gnufreex<Ender2070> im tired of the debate, they should just sue and get it over withApr 01 13:40
gnufreexThere is no purpose to sue now when they can make any damage to GNU/Linux. They need to hook people on Mono first. Apr 01 13:40
Ender207016:38 < schestowitz> [21:37] <Ender2070> it becomes non free for another reason?Apr 01 13:40
Ender207016:38 < schestowitz> YesApr 01 13:40
Ender2070lolApr 01 13:40
DaemonFCMinceR, It's still usedApr 01 13:40
Ender2070is there a hat with cards that have reasons written on them?Apr 01 13:40
schestowitzI'm not telling joksApr 01 13:40
MinceRthey can also show that they own some patents, do a little FUD and make some companies payApr 01 13:40
MinceRwithout going to courtApr 01 13:40
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schestowitzNovell sells Android bombs too... MonoDroidApr 01 13:41
MinceRor they can sue for few patents at a time, a few targets at a timeApr 01 13:41
Ender2070you guys had me so scared of sw pats that i finally noticed Canada doesn't seem to have themApr 01 13:41
Ender2070ill have to do more researchApr 01 13:41
schestowitzBuy Novell wares to push Microsoft junk into Linux...Apr 01 13:41
schestowitzEnder2070: i4i?Apr 01 13:41
Ender2070i4i sued in the USAApr 01 13:41
Ender2070:)Apr 01 13:41
DaemonFCMinceR, XFS rode in on a wave of "Ext3 sucks"Apr 01 13:42
schestowitzCsnadian firms from Toronto not just i4i) get patents in USPTO brothelApr 01 13:42
DaemonFCbut Ext4 has gotten good enough that XFS only beats it in a few corner cases nowApr 01 13:42
Ender2070USPTO is USAApr 01 13:42
DaemonFCit's usually close on the restApr 01 13:42
MinceRhm, i still don't have a list of 'sovereign states having/lacking sw patents'Apr 01 13:42
MinceRwould be useful to haveApr 01 13:42
Ender2070sure we can sue americans for breaking our US patentsApr 01 13:42
Ender2070:PApr 01 13:42
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MinceREnder2070: and usians can sue you for exporting stuff that breaks their patents to the USAApr 01 13:42
schestowitzUSA: we sell monopolies and armsApr 01 13:42
MinceR(well, at least if you sell them)Apr 01 13:43
schestowitz[and give them for free to rebels in countries like Libya that have oil]Apr 01 13:43
MinceRor if you run a business that has a subsidiary in the USA and you use in-house some software that infringes on usian patents, once again you're in troubleApr 01 13:43
Ender2070Mincer - im a Canadian, and im not interested in exportingApr 01 13:43
MinceRyou are interested in earning a living though, aren't you? :>Apr 01 13:44
Ender2070sure amApr 01 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Drinking Ricard while Bruce disassembles Palau Sant Jordi with only a Telecaster...Apr 01 13:44
Ender2070Canadian serversApr 01 13:44
Ender2070we do have themApr 01 13:44
DaemonFCMinceR, To a certain extent, US states have different economic laws and companies and individuals move around to make use of the more favorable laws in other statesApr 01 13:44
DaemonFCavoiding sales tax for oneApr 01 13:44
MinceRDaemonFC: any state where no sw patents are allowed?Apr 01 13:45
MinceR(i'm guessing patents are federal)Apr 01 13:45
MinceR(since there's only one USPTO)Apr 01 13:45
Ender2070im feeling all the more proud of being CanadianApr 01 13:45
DaemonFCpeople used to come to Indiana to get divorced because in other states, it used to be an actual jury trial to get divorcedApr 01 13:45
DaemonFCpatents are federalApr 01 13:45
MinceREnder2070: it will get worseApr 01 13:45
MinceRthe worldwide law-buying machine is in motionApr 01 13:45
Ender2070Mincer - we've fought back the canadian dmca 3 times alreadyApr 01 13:45
MinceRyou have signed the WCT thoughApr 01 13:46
Ender2070we also legalized downloading music by adding a tax to blank cdsApr 01 13:46
MinceRso you've already taken an obligation to eventually ratify itApr 01 13:46
Ender2070signing WCT means nothingApr 01 13:46
MinceReven though you didn't have toApr 01 13:46
DaemonFCMinceR, The commerce clause of the constitution is so vague that the feds use it to get away with whatever they likeApr 01 13:46
MinceRit's only a matter of timeApr 01 13:46
Ender2070in a democracy, the people hve to agree to the lawsApr 01 13:46
DaemonFCthey threatened to take away federal highway grants in the 80s unless states raised the drinking age to 21Apr 01 13:46
Ender2070we also signed KyotoApr 01 13:47
*Ender2070 laughsApr 01 13:47
DaemonFCthe feds couldn't tell the states to do it but they could threaten to not shower down the money they took in the first placeApr 01 13:47
Ender2070we scrapped that one too :PApr 01 13:47
MinceRyet canada is in the ACTA negotiationsApr 01 13:47
DaemonFCEnder2070, The US is a signatory to KyotoApr 01 13:47
DaemonFCit was not ratifiedApr 01 13:47
Ender2070yupApr 01 13:47
Ender2070signing doesnt mean anythingApr 01 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] BADLANDSApr 01 13:47
DaemonFCexactlyApr 01 13:47
MinceRconducted in secret, out of control by the peopleApr 01 13:47
Ender2070you remind me how usless the UN isApr 01 13:47
MinceRso very democraticApr 01 13:47
Ender2070hey im the one who usually talks about globalizationApr 01 13:48
Ender2070lolApr 01 13:48
Ender2070the UN is trying to remove this loopholeApr 01 13:48
DaemonFCwell, ratification is necessary because who wants the president to make unilateral decisions about treaties?Apr 01 13:48
MinceRthe EU isn't any better, btwApr 01 13:48
DaemonFCthat would be....badApr 01 13:48
Ender2070exactly DaemonFCApr 01 13:48
Ender2070the media here often tries to paint the media tax as bad because its a tax but the smarter folk know it pays to keep downloading legalApr 01 13:49
MinceRor does it.Apr 01 13:49
DaemonFCI don't careApr 01 13:49
DaemonFCif they sue me I'll file bankruptcyApr 01 13:49
MinceRhere we pay a levy on data storage media, which allegedly makes filesharing legalApr 01 13:49
Ender2070its legal to download music in CanadaApr 01 13:49
MinceRyet filesharing isn't legalApr 01 13:49
Ender2070you just cant uploadApr 01 13:50
DaemonFCyou have a better chance of death by falling out of bed than being sued by the RIAAApr 01 13:50
Ender2070well its legal hereApr 01 13:50
Ender2070courts have held it upApr 01 13:50
MinceRwell, downloading is supposedly legal here tooApr 01 13:50
Ender2070the CRIA hates usApr 01 13:50
MinceRbut who can afford to run those servers?Apr 01 13:50
DaemonFCthey go after a few people as a chilling effectApr 01 13:50
MinceRalso, hungary is not a constitutional stateApr 01 13:50
MinceRso the police will just rob you of your computers anywayApr 01 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !FSFLA launches HURD-libre http://ur1.ca/3q72i !linuxlibreApr 01 13:51
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MinceRthey'll even take away devices that can't store dataApr 01 13:51
MinceRlike monitorsApr 01 13:51
MinceRand you won't see it again for years, or everApr 01 13:51
DaemonFCMinceR, then cattle prod you and rape you with a baton on the way outApr 01 13:51
Ender2070so moveApr 01 13:51
Ender2070lolApr 01 13:51
DaemonFC"He resisted"Apr 01 13:51
MinceRof courseApr 01 13:51
MinceREnder2070: move, but where?Apr 01 13:51
Ender2070come to CanadaApr 01 13:51
MinceRfascism is everywhereApr 01 13:51
MinceRcanada has signed the WCTApr 01 13:51
Ender2070oh noesApr 01 13:51
MinceRthen again, now orban is making all those places look betterApr 01 13:52
Ender2070we signed kyoto tooApr 01 13:52
Ender2070we also dropped kyotoApr 01 13:52
Ender2070after signing itApr 01 13:52
MinceRfirst we got a dictatorshipApr 01 13:52
MinceRnow they're moving on to totalitarianismApr 01 13:52
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MinceRso i might want to reconsider canada after allApr 01 13:52
Ender2070the whole world isApr 01 13:52
Ender2070at least if you come to CanadaApr 01 13:52
Ender2070you can surviveApr 01 13:52
MinceRhow?Apr 01 13:52
DaemonFCif China had to abide by the requirements of Kyoto then their economy would tank overnightApr 01 13:53
DaemonFCthey get an exception as a "third world country"Apr 01 13:53
Ender2070the man caused flood that will wipe everything outApr 01 13:53
Ender2070the canadian shield is elevated high enough to avoid thatApr 01 13:53
MinceRwell, there are mountains everywhereApr 01 13:53
MinceReven in budapest :>Apr 01 13:53
DaemonFCChina is only a third world country for the many who aren't obscenely richApr 01 13:53
MinceRalso, the elevation of the sea level won't happen suddenlyApr 01 13:54
DaemonFCif you can work people for 10 cents an hour and pocket the rest, you probably aren't doing too badApr 01 13:54
Ender2070DaemonFC - middle class people can now afford the 2nd child feeApr 01 13:54
MinceRthen again, once things get serious, people will get desperate to moveApr 01 13:54
MinceRcan't hurt to act ahead of timeApr 01 13:54
DaemonFCEnder2070, The US government and the states pay people to reproduceApr 01 13:54
DaemonFCthe less you should be doing it, the more they pay you toApr 01 13:54
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 13:55
Ender2070DaemonFC - yeah so does QuebecApr 01 13:55
MinceRthey do that here tooApr 01 13:55
DaemonFCtax credits and welfare and shitApr 01 13:55
Ender2070DaemonFC - Quebec gives both parents maternity leaveApr 01 13:55
MinceRthe nazis are all "you must reproduce so that our glorious people will survive!"Apr 01 13:55
schestowitz[21:55] <DaemonFC> Ender2070, The US government and the states pay people to reproduceApr 01 13:55
schestowitzIt helps pay back national debtApr 01 13:55
MinceRhanding out the taxpayers' money to do itApr 01 13:55
MinceRschestowitz: how?Apr 01 13:55
MinceRschestowitz: more slave labor force?Apr 01 13:55
schestowitzMore workersApr 01 13:55
MinceRthey're too expensiveApr 01 13:55
DaemonFCyepApr 01 13:55
schestowitzPeople=labour valueApr 01 13:55
schestowitzThey are treated like objects upon birthApr 01 13:55
Ender2070nahApr 01 13:55
MinceRas long as slave labor is so much cheaper in red china, it won't do a thingApr 01 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] jamming to the latest Copperplate Podcast and hacking on my movie scriptApr 01 13:56
Ender2070they pay poor people to have kids so they have moreApr 01 13:56
MinceRexcept of course increase resource consumption and pollutionApr 01 13:56
Ender2070they want a population explosionApr 01 13:56
Ender2070then they can force laws for depopulation reasonsApr 01 13:56
DaemonFCI figure they do it so that it creates more competition for the remaining jobsApr 01 13:56
DaemonFCand depresses the wages for those jobsApr 01 13:56
MinceRcover the earth in human bodies to compensate for the increase in sea level?Apr 01 13:56
schestowitzSociety without expansion (like in Sweden) can't afford to play the bankers' loan manipulationApr 01 13:56
schestowitzIf every egenration you have twice as much people to pay back the predecessor's debt... although globalisation can change that, immigration tooApr 01 13:57
MinceRthat's a lot like a pyramid schemeApr 01 13:57
MinceRexcept it will crash because natural resources and space run out, not because people run outApr 01 13:57
Ender2070eventually you'll need to take personality tests, iq tests and government screening before you can have kidsApr 01 13:58
schestowitzImmigration in Europe is sometimes used for car production where moving it to India is not so practical when the rest of the car is made somewhere like EuropeApr 01 13:58
Ender2070anyone who is a danger to the system wont be allowed to have kidsApr 01 13:58
MinceREnder2070: wouldn't it be a lot easier to just let parents pay the cost of making children?Apr 01 13:58
MinceRand not give them tax breaks and shitApr 01 13:58
Ender2070they dont get that shit hereApr 01 13:59
schestowitzSome people in some places are not paid to get neuteredApr 01 13:59
Ender2070they get baby bonus if they are poorApr 01 13:59
MinceRsame thingApr 01 13:59
MinceRfinancial incentive to reproduceApr 01 13:59
schestowitzIt's controversial though and the reward is so low that only the most desperate would do that, as intendedApr 01 13:59
MinceRit was included in the "and shit" part :>Apr 01 13:59
Ender2070some organizations in the UK were paying poor people to sterilize themselvesApr 01 13:59
schestowitzHigh "baby bonus" for the poor is justified when there are not enough manual workersApr 01 14:00
MinceRis it cheaper than normal contraception?Apr 01 14:00
DaemonFCMinceR, The Nazis has a system where they loaned new couples money and they could repay the debt by having children, it was like 4 kids and you didn't have to pay it backApr 01 14:00
schestowitzYou basically adjustt price based on demandApr 01 14:00
MinceRDaemonFC: we're getting thereApr 01 14:00
DaemonFCthe US and the states knock down your tax liability for each kid you haveApr 01 14:00
DaemonFCuntil you don't owe any taxesApr 01 14:00
MinceRDaemonFC: now if you're rich enough then you get tax deductions after your childrenApr 01 14:00
Ender2070yeah we dont have thatApr 01 14:00
schestowitzIt there's excess workforce and high unemployment you can federally change the "cost" of a babyApr 01 14:00
DaemonFCand maybe even getting state benefits to pay for your kids foodApr 01 14:00
MinceRDaemonFC: the nazis even had the idea of giving you extra votes per childApr 01 14:00
MinceRthey seem to have realized how completely idiotic that wasApr 01 14:01
DaemonFCvotes in the Nazi popularity contest?Apr 01 14:01
schestowitz"Now STFU, go get a mortgage, get a house, fill it with kids, then die fast from cancer, before you get pension"Apr 01 14:01
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 14:01
MinceRbut they still keep saying "oh, how glorious and progressive this idea was!"Apr 01 14:01
Ender2070+1 royApr 01 14:01
MinceRDaemonFC: votes in the "election"sApr 01 14:01
DaemonFCMinceR, That's what I saidApr 01 14:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 14:01
MinceRnot sure if they can be called that any moreApr 01 14:01
Ender2070if you dont die from cancer they want you to be mercy killed as a seniorApr 01 14:01
Ender2070euthanasia laws being revampedApr 01 14:02
MinceRwith foreigners voting, gerrymandering and other cheating by the nazisApr 01 14:02
MinceRif they'll even care to hold elections ever again, that isApr 01 14:02
schestowitzEnder2070: parents' homes have bad conditionsApr 01 14:02
Ender2070roy - by designApr 01 14:02
DaemonFCMinceR, Now you can just rig the voting machine softwareApr 01 14:02
schestowitzUnless you're an old millionaires, then you live in some real-life afterlife in FloriadaApr 01 14:02
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DaemonFCwhich is the property of Diebold or HalliburtonApr 01 14:02
MinceRDaemonFC: we don't use voting machines...yetApr 01 14:02
Ender2070roy - its cheaper, and then you get to pass laws for mercy killing seniors because homes are terribleApr 01 14:02
DaemonFCand not available for public auditApr 01 14:02
MinceRDaemonFC: just put an X in the circle on the paper with a ball-point penApr 01 14:03
Ender2070:)Apr 01 14:03
MinceRDaemonFC: of course there still are ways they could cheatApr 01 14:03
MinceRmuch of the system depends on all parties having representatives in the groups who manage and count the votesApr 01 14:03
MinceRbut we can see how the nazis like that ideaApr 01 14:03
Ender2070DaemonFC - you know whats scary? diebold makes most Canadian ABM'sApr 01 14:03
MinceRthus far they've taken over every state functionApr 01 14:03
schestowitzMinceR: Viktor?Apr 01 14:03
MinceReven the censorship office is fully led by themApr 01 14:03
MinceRschestowitz: yesApr 01 14:04
schestowitzBTW, today I spoke with a Polish friend for a couple of hours and we jokes about VicktorApr 01 14:04
DaemonFCHungary has a "censorship office" and CALLS it that?Apr 01 14:04
MinceRbefore the current dictatorship, it was common to hand positions to the oppositionmApr 01 14:04
MinceRs/.$//Apr 01 14:04
DaemonFCwe just have the FCC :)Apr 01 14:04
MinceRto ensure checks and balancesApr 01 14:04
MinceRDaemonFC: of course notApr 01 14:04
MinceRi'll look up what they call itApr 01 14:04
schestowitzKKSS?Apr 01 14:05
MinceR(it's new, they've merged two censorship authorities to create it, or something)Apr 01 14:05
MinceR"National Media and Infocommunications Authority-Hungary"Apr 01 14:05
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MinceR(they also want to implement internet censorship, they've stated that)Apr 01 14:06
schestowitzBetter than "Nazi Media and Propaganda Authority"Apr 01 14:06
schestowitzhttp://www.pclinuxos.com/Apr 01 14:06
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DaemonFCyeah, they usually hide behind euphemismsApr 01 14:06
schestowitz^ Ballmer's domain todayApr 01 14:07
DaemonFCthey can't call themselves the thought policeApr 01 14:07
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 14:07
MinceRyeah, like putting "People's" and "Democratic" in the name 5 timesApr 01 14:07
MinceRthough the nazis prefer "National"Apr 01 14:07
schestowitz"United"Apr 01 14:07
schestowitz[against common enemy]Apr 01 14:07
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DaemonFCThe People's Democratic People's Republic of Democratic People's HungaryApr 01 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Trip report: Taipei http://is.gd/FptJij #tpn #anon #torApr 01 14:07
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DaemonFC:)Apr 01 14:07
MinceR:>Apr 01 14:08
MinceRthey also like "cooperation" a lotApr 01 14:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: PDPRDPH for short?Apr 01 14:08
DaemonFCyepApr 01 14:08
MinceRoh, and "The Holy Crown"Apr 01 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.PDPRDPH.gov/Apr 01 14:08
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MinceRthe more extreme nazis campaigned for putting that in the new constitution and it seems to be going thereApr 01 14:08
MinceRalong with more christian fundamentalist bullshitApr 01 14:08
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uILsSniSPVcApr 01 14:09
MinceRi'm still wondering whether they'll turn the country into a kingdomApr 01 14:09
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MinceRcould be, since they wanted to change the official name of the state from "Republic of Hungary" to "Hungary" in the constitutionApr 01 14:09
DaemonFCMinceR likes to cooperateApr 01 14:09
DaemonFChe's very cooperativeApr 01 14:09
MinceRi don't really see any other reason for that than preparing for monarchyApr 01 14:10
schestowitzQueen ViKtoriaApr 01 14:10
DaemonFChe's a model of Hungarian cooperationApr 01 14:10
DaemonFCcooperating for a better cooperative PDPRDPHApr 01 14:10
MinceRDaemonFC: no, hungarian "National Cooperation" means that viktor tells everyone what to doApr 01 14:10
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 14:10
MinceRand if they don't do that then they're non-hungarian commie traitorsApr 01 14:10
MinceRor if someone complainsApr 01 14:11
schestowitzBut aren't they mostly commies?Apr 01 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan You WERE serious with freelish.us, weren't you? You devious man..... :DApr 01 14:11
schestowitzOr their children?Apr 01 14:11
MinceRthey areApr 01 14:11
schestowitzMy Polish mate said they still are commis theeApr 01 14:11
MinceRmost of the hungarian "political elite" comes from the commie party and its youth organizationApr 01 14:11
schestowitzAnd someone from Romania says the same... it's running in the blood so to speakApr 01 14:11
MinceRyet the nazis go around calling others commiesApr 01 14:11
schestowitzSo the party of queen viktoria is basically closer commie?Apr 01 14:11
schestowitz*closetApr 01 14:12
MinceRalmost all of them areApr 01 14:12
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MinceRof course here, like everyone else the whole deal about it is just dictatorshipApr 01 14:12
schestowitzUntil they shake Bush's handApr 01 14:12
MinceRit doesn't matter if you put a swastika or a five-pointed star on that red flagApr 01 14:12
schestowitzThen they need to pretend to be alikeApr 01 14:12
MinceRthat they will doApr 01 14:12
MinceRas long as they can bear itApr 01 14:12
MinceRif they can't, then they'll claim to be insultedApr 01 14:13
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MinceRlike viktor claimed that the european complaints about how building of a dictatorship being attacks against the hungarian peopleApr 01 14:13
Diablo-D3fuck the hungariansApr 01 14:13
MinceRnever mind that they explicitly said that the hungarian people are not the problemApr 01 14:13
MinceRwell, fuck themApr 01 14:13
MinceRa majority did elect these assholes into a 2/3 majorityApr 01 14:13
Diablo-D3and before someone comes and claim Im racist or some shitApr 01 14:13
MinceRand most of them still support themApr 01 14:13
Diablo-D3fuck everybodyApr 01 14:13
MinceRno, just fuck humansApr 01 14:14
MinceRand dogsApr 01 14:14
MinceRother living beings aren't maliciousApr 01 14:14
MinceRand dogs are what they are because humans corrupted themApr 01 14:14
Diablo-D3actuallyApr 01 14:14
Diablo-D3I wouldnt mind dating some angelic chickApr 01 14:14
MinceRthat would be a welcome change for me tooApr 01 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] edição de março da @revistaespiritolivre lançada em 1Apr 01 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fabsh Well, half-serious. Read the blog post.Apr 01 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] April foolishness from the EFF http://lwn.net/Articles/436619/rssApr 01 14:16
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MinceRbtw, i wanted to post this quote earlier >> http://twitter.com/Scobleizer/statuses/764673949Apr 01 14:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Scobleizer: I saw that internally inside Microsoft many times when I was told to stay away from supporting Mono in public. They reserve the right to sueApr 01 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] edição de março da @revistaespiritolivre, lançada em 1º de abril, traz “Linguagem para Programar” http://ur1.ca/3q77uApr 01 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] April Fools joke from Wordpress... graph shows ridiculous bump in daily hits. Gee, thanks.Apr 01 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Pretty cool! A useful April Fools..... :DApr 01 14:21
schestowitzMinceR: your views on dogs are intolerantApr 01 14:22
MinceRrightfully soApr 01 14:22
MinceRso are their views on meApr 01 14:22
schestowitzDogs are harder to teach morals and they have excuses that are better than humans'Apr 01 14:22
MinceRand on any civilized beingApr 01 14:22
schestowitzSo please, spare dogs who read this the frustration. Thanls.Apr 01 14:22
MinceRi don't care about their excusesApr 01 14:22
MinceRthey can't read thisApr 01 14:22
schestowitzThey canApr 01 14:23
schestowitz!google on the internet nobody knows you're a dogApr 01 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - On the Internet, Nobody Knows You're a Dog | http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.htmlApr 01 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dogApr 01 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." at The New Yorker Store | http://www.newyorkerstore.com/dogs/on-the-internet-nobody-knows-youre-a-dog/invt/106197/Apr 01 14:23
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog. | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ben_lawson/155595430/Apr 01 14:23
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MinceRdogs are too stupid to readApr 01 14:23
schestowitzHow do *you* know?Apr 01 14:23
schestowitzDid you ask them?Apr 01 14:23
MinceRi know more about biology than you'd think :>Apr 01 14:23
schestowitzWhat about whales and dolphins?Apr 01 14:23
MinceRnot sureApr 01 14:23
schestowitzThey can also shout betterApr 01 14:24
MinceRi can shout better than them, thanks to technologyApr 01 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Porqué la Comisión Europea de hoy Podría Hacer Frente a Una Demanda Legal Por Venderse a Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3q792 !techrightsApr 01 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan So how does one tag something on there? You post the URL and then? :)Apr 01 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] ES: Porqué la Comisión Europea de hoy Podría Hacer Frente a Una Demanda Legal Por Venderse a Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3q792 #techrightsApr 01 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Give your eyes a break from #Helvetica & its clones: try #Lato. http://ur1.ca/3q74y #OFL #typography !design !wd !trisquelApr 01 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Our research into Gates Foundation has become popular, index got over 20k non-cached visits http://ur1.ca/1e8bh lacking time to cover moreApr 01 14:27
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MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.theonion.com/video/new-apple-friend-bar-gives-customers-someone-to-ta,17693/Apr 01 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] GF went to bed. Now it's Dragon Age in the Dark time.... :)Apr 01 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Planet Ubuntu : Adnan Quaium: Can’t we get an easier & handy software installation process in !Ubuntu? http://bit.ly/ehB5dTApr 01 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh in the dark? won't the screen glare keep her awake? ;PApr 01 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Challenged on the merits of #strategic voting in the comments of "Ding Dong Bill C-32 is Dead" http://ur1.ca/3pkzi elxn41 fed2011 #cdnpoliApr 01 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Btw formatting !mynovel & family no time to answer challenge til later... any takers? [dropping moderation barrier] http://ur1.ca/3pkziApr 01 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] viva, o perfil do @fisl no identica tá vivo!Apr 01 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Only light here is a 40" TV and a huge candle. Creepy... #DAIIApr 01 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh yeah it was wordplay on the "in the dark" partApr 01 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Challenged on the merits of #strategic voting in the comments of "Ding Dong Bill C-32 is Dead" http://ur1.ca/3pkzi !elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoliApr 01 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Five Things Wrong with AT&T's Mega-Merger http://ur1.ca/3q7ey #netneutrality #ATT #TMobileApr 01 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Torvalds renames his kernel to Canoe. “this should settle it: GNU/Canoe; tomAYto/tomAHto” http://ur1.ca/3q72i !gnulinux !fsApr 01 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Can I configure !DoggCatcher on !Android to use proxy within the program?Apr 01 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Santos Dumont Informática lança o revolucionário computador 14-bits http://ur1.ca/3q72iApr 01 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft -sponsored Distortion of News in the #UK (Lerner Daemonises Free Software Along With Schankerman) http://ur1.ca/3q7gsApr 01 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft -sponsored Distortion of News in the UK (Lerner Daemonises Free Software Along With #Schankerman ) http://ur1.ca/3q7gs #fud !fsApr 01 14:56
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sebsebsebMinceR: nisshh jono schestowitz Did you see Google Motion?Apr 01 15:03
MinceRnot yetApr 01 15:03
MinceRthanks for the reminderApr 01 15:03
sebsebsebMinceR: http://gmail.com/motionApr 01 15:03
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sebsebsebwould be something if it existed for real :DApr 01 15:04
sebsebsebMinceR: http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/46242-linux-kernel-to-be-released-under-bsd-licenceApr 01 15:04
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MinceRread that oneApr 01 15:06
MinceRlol @ gmail motionApr 01 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Idea: 8bit theraminApr 01 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fabsh Use the bookmarklet.Apr 01 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Legalising #Corruption in Europe, the #Microsoft Way http://ur1.ca/3q7la #eu #tax #ch #switzerlandApr 01 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Legalising Corruption in Europe, the Microsoft Way http://ur1.ca/3q7la #msft #loopholeApr 01 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Market of Firefox (Free Software Poster Child) is Increasing While Windows Market is Decreasing http://ur1.ca/3q7mt #firefox #mozillaApr 01 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Market of Firefox (Free Software Poster Child) is Increasing While Windows Market is Decreasing http://ur1.ca/3q7mt !firefox !mozillaApr 01 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bananabob "Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst !Ubuntu beta ever • The Register" from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/01/ubuntu1004 ...Apr 01 15:37
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/neilradley/statuses/53896961270620160Apr 01 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr@neilradley: Finally a Windows error code that is actually useful. http://bit.ly/e4kmp7Apr 01 15:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/04/01/citibank-debt-collectors-allegedly-kill-client.htmlApr 01 15:39
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schestowitzMaybe Citi staff was just very hungry and needed the money for foodApr 01 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Ok. I usually don't like these things but will try....Apr 01 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just signed up for an Arch Linux developer account. Going to format my drive tonight and get a real distro on my machine. Impressed afterApr 01 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] reading the ArchWiki all day. I expect nothing but green grass and high tides from here on out folks! Year of the linux desktopApr 01 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Dragon Age II plot is truly remarkable. Very different as far as an RPG is concerned. I like it!Apr 01 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents #FUD a Sign That Microsoft is Losing, Linux is Winning http://ur1.ca/3q7rm #swpatsApr 01 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Software Patents FUD a Sign That #Microsoft is Losing, #Linux is Winning http://ur1.ca/3q7rm #android #fudApr 01 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Good video interview with Assange on Underground, WikiLeaks, revolutions http://is.gd/O25Df8 http://bit.ly/gMwAvVApr 01 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] http://bit.ly/f5C1M4 "A wake-up call on Windows 7 migration" - Also a wake up call for the German Auswertige Amt to reconsider !gnu/!linux?Apr 01 16:19
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GoForbes28I was actually a little disapointed with the Google April Fools this yearApr 01 16:26
GoForbes28Opera did a similar joke last year with facial gesturesApr 01 16:26
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DaemonFCyou cringe and it goes to www.microsoft.com/ie?Apr 01 16:33
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 16:33
DaemonFChttp://skynet.kernel.org/?reconnect=2Apr 01 16:34
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MinceR:)Apr 01 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Ball of twine ... It's multi-purpose." ~ Varric, #DAIIApr 01 16:44
DaemonFCMinceR, Linux 2.6.39 is also puking on Ubuntu's AppArmor patchesApr 01 16:44
DaemonFCwhich I made sure to cherry pick from their 2.6.39 treeApr 01 16:44
DaemonFCso now I'm building it without AppArmor supportApr 01 16:44
DaemonFC:PApr 01 16:44
DaemonFCI still believe it was a mistake to accept AppArmor into the kernel if they were only going to implement enough of it to load and complain that it wasn't going to load profiles with network rulesApr 01 16:45
DaemonFCand that your userspace tools are broken (there aren't any "not broken" userspace tools that I can find) :)Apr 01 16:46
DaemonFCso the AppArmor that's in the kernel is useless and you either need out of tree patches to make it shut up and work, or to just disable it so it can't load and fill your kernel log with its bitchingApr 01 16:46
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:46
DaemonFCwhich defeats the point of being _in the kernel_ because that kind of implies that it will do something without fetching someone's patches and hoping they're new enough to apply against the kernel you are trying to buildApr 01 16:47
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:47
DaemonFCmy belief is that something should be "working" before it goes into the kernel in the first placeApr 01 16:49
DaemonFCnot just there to deceive people into believing it's supported, end of story :)Apr 01 16:49
DaemonFCin the current state AppArmor is in, without Canonical and Novell up someone's ass, I'd be surprised if it was even in the staging treeApr 01 16:50
DaemonFCseeing as how it won't do _anything at all_Apr 01 16:50
DaemonFC:DApr 01 16:50
DaemonFCthe special treatment at work here is alarmingApr 01 16:51
DaemonFCCanonical and Novell apparently have enough pull to throw non-functional crap into the mainline kernel and then wander off and not fix itApr 01 16:51
MinceRhttp://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6217.txtApr 01 16:52
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DaemonFCMinceR, AppArmor isn't terrible, but it's easier to turn it off than to try to keep it working with a vanilla kernelApr 01 16:52
DaemonFCwhich claims it worksApr 01 16:52
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:52
DaemonFCthose claims are utter bullshit in case I haven't made myself clear enoughApr 01 16:53
DaemonFC /rantApr 01 16:53
DaemonFC:DApr 01 16:53
DaemonFCwell, one more dig, why not?Apr 01 16:54
DaemonFCAppArmor without Canonical patches: "ZOMG, Warning, Warning, danger Will Robinson, that profile does not compute!Apr 01 16:54
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 16:54
DaemonFCMinceR, You ever wonder how this horrible crap makes its way into the kernel?Apr 01 16:55
DaemonFCReiserFS shouldn't be there, but at least it does workApr 01 16:56
DaemonFC(another example of Suse and arm twisting)Apr 01 16:56
DaemonFCso they get Linus to lob it into the kernel, right? Then THEY stop fucking using it after my dad has already got a very entangled partition setup involving NTFS, ReiserFS, a /boot that wound up on ext3 some how, and so onApr 01 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. The Qun demands it.Apr 01 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @themadhatter Greatest (or worst, take your pick) thing is the irony. Being ethical is just that. It does not need an award like a parolee.Apr 01 16:57
DaemonFCthen his hard drive starts going out and *I* am the one to fix it, MinceR I amApr 01 16:57
DaemonFCI never EVER want to see ReiserFS again, EVER!Apr 01 16:58
DaemonFChe should be in prison for thatApr 01 16:58
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:58
DaemonFCWhy in the name of all that is good, why? Why!?!? would Linus merge a file system with that kind of grotesque dependence on the big kernel lock? One that doesn't scale to multiprocessor systems?Apr 01 16:59
DaemonFCOne that does things like say "Repair internal tree structure" and wipes out your data without warning?Apr 01 16:59
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:59
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DaemonFCMinceR, ReiserFS is worthy of all your hate that seems directed at XFSApr 01 17:00
DaemonFCBecause ReiserFS actually does suckApr 01 17:00
DaemonFCit does eat your dataApr 01 17:00
DaemonFCand it does...not...SCALEApr 01 17:00
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:00
MinceRi don't think i've ever used reiserfsApr 01 17:01
DaemonFCdo yourself a favor, don'tApr 01 17:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:01
DaemonFCMinceR, There's people using XFSApr 01 17:02
DaemonFCbut Ext4 performs better on typical PC hardwareApr 01 17:02
DaemonFCXFS pulls ahead on systems with lots of processor coresApr 01 17:03
DaemonFCXFS destroys Ext4 on the threaded I/O benchmarks with 8 core CPUsApr 01 17:03
DaemonFCthat's the kind of people that should be using itApr 01 17:03
DaemonFCnow, what XFS is not known for is fast metadata operations, so batch deleting a shitload of header files, like deleting a kernel tree is painfulApr 01 17:05
DaemonFCbut delaylog and logbufs=8 speeds it along a littleApr 01 17:05
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:05
DaemonFCI learned that the hard way on my other system when I went to clean up my first kernel tree with itApr 01 17:06
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DaemonFChmmmmApr 01 17:32
DaemonFCdesktop effects are actually a lot slower on FGLRX than the latest free driversApr 01 17:33
DaemonFC(and choppier)Apr 01 17:33
DaemonFCwonder if fullscreen Trash still kills the driverApr 01 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh well done on the accent in English in the latest ep, I tip my hat to you sirApr 01 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] On our way to First friday. Zombies and stuff. Yeah.Apr 01 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke That's good; just the problem has become it doesn't even matter if you are in the right; allegations or lawsuits are used to "chill"Apr 01 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] BBC News - 10 stories that could be April Fools pranks but aren't: http://wmk.me/eOlrxvApr 01 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz See Wiki article on Dvorak.comApr 01 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms <http://identi.ca/rms>: Urgent: Oppose Arctic Drilling http://ur1.ca/3qb27 [70238129] <http://ur1.ca/3qbq0>Apr 01 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Laurie: Improving SSL certificate security http://lwn.net/Articles/436641/rssApr 01 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] By merely bolstering the weaker side, we are prolonging Libya's civil war. http://is.gd/3m9iRb #violenceApr 01 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ArethaFranklin is one of the truly effortless singersApr 01 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[amarsh04/@amarsh04] np: Joe Hisaishi "Asian X.T.C." albumApr 01 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Fifa's latest attempts at helping world peace http://is.gd/bZBxULApr 01 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] who are the Electronic Privacy Information Center? http://is.gd/eStivFApr 01 19:32
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amarsh04afternoon, oiaohm, another weekend of kernel git-bisectingApr 01 19:51
amarsh04I'm almost inclined to put a MIDI playback in my startup scrip just to check if anything breaks proper playback in new kernelsApr 01 19:53
amarsh04s/scrip/script/Apr 01 19:54
oiaohmamarsh04: that is one of the issues.  There is not a good way to place a auto testsuite on drivers.Apr 01 19:56
amarsh04true, so the people that use the drivers and who want to contribute to maintaining them need to figure out their own testsApr 01 19:58
amarsh04and that causes much re-inventing of wheels, some of them non-roundApr 01 19:59
amarsh04time for a rebootApr 01 19:59
oiaohmamarsh04: Problem is the real hardware requirement.Apr 01 19:59
amarsh04that tooApr 01 19:59
oiaohmAnd substandard protuction out there.Apr 01 20:00
amarsh04even if you own the hardware, you need some good testsApr 01 20:00
amarsh04back in a fewApr 01 20:00
oiaohmIe you might own x card that works perfectly.Apr 01 20:00
amarsh04and a slight varient failsApr 01 20:00
amarsh04whether by component tolerances or slipstreaming of different components into identically identified devicesApr 01 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Score: #Angels 1, #Royals 2. They even their series at 1 win each. #LABaseball #baseball http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/laaApr 01 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kathleenogrady Remind me again why healthcare hasn't been major issue in !elxn41? Next gov likely determines future direction for healthApr 01 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Set up free Internet access in the Hospitality Suite of the FilKONtario 21 Filk Convention using Bodhi Linux 1.0.0 on an Acer Notebook.Apr 01 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] And the #baseball game ends. SF #Giants 3, LA #Dodgers 4. A semi-happy day for #LABaseball as the #Angels lose and the Dodgers win.Apr 01 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Former USA president Jimmy Carter visits Cuba. http://is.gd/9FLMEd !CubanewsApr 01 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] NL: Hoe @linuxmagnl mij hielp - deel 2 - http://ur1.ca/3qep3Apr 01 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On Windows users: "Recognizing that many of us are sometimes forced to use legacy operating systems" <well said ;-) https://one.ubuntu.com/Apr 01 23:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] updating my Debian machine. Guess I'll have to reboot it (kernel updated). Or not.Apr 01 23:37
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/67930152#notice-70232983 http://identi.ca/notice/70232983Apr 01 23:48
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TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 23:12:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ok, gonna write about it then... Thanks a lot. ;-)Apr 01 23:48
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/61682694Apr 01 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Jan-11 05:21:13 UTC - Identi.ca: Wayne Borean Explains Why #Microsoft May be Heading Towards Bankruptcy http://is.gd/kh7iw  // don't believe *everything* that's in the newsApr 01 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: RT @piratepartyau: Breaking: The Pirate Bay buys eBay.com || http://is.gd/IxiHge #firstin2011Apr 01 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Declares Bankruptcy (Chapter 11) http://ur1.ca/3pwynApr 01 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Microsoft Declares Bankruptcy (Chapter 11) http://ur1.ca/3pwynApr 01 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 458 Party of the century. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #fantasy #Minis #worthreadingApr 01 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] FBI Director Mueller "not aware of any" #PATRIOTAct violations. Really? EFF is: https://eff.org/r.26QApr 01 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Pioneer One Episode 3 is out - Download it at VODO http://vo.do/pioneerone #VODOApr 01 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @EFF: FBI Director Mueller "not aware of" #PATRIOTAct violations. EFF is: https://eff.org/r.26Q - *Director Mueller is a lying bastard*Apr 01 00:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter we should all join @carlopiana !UTC group then we can all get april fools jokes at the same time.Apr 01 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "younger people think of happiness as excitement older people as peacefulness" #insight #notmineApr 01 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] pure awesome. could we have this in !kde? please? http://vimeo.com/21778130Apr 01 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tribute to Schroder and Unanswered Questions http://ur1.ca/3px6lApr 01 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Tribute to Schroder and Unanswered Questions http://ur1.ca/3px6l #linuxApr 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is a good thing about !identi.ca you know roughly how we are growing by the !spamreport uid number :)Apr 01 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 458 tser : A trapped Haian, a mute boy. http://bit.ly/h7C93o #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitApr 01 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 50 million downloads on 2011-03-31 23:42 UTCApr 01 00:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It Takes #Microsoft Managers to be Malicious http://ur1.ca/3pxm7Apr 01 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] It Takes !Microsoft Managers to be Malicious http://ur1.ca/3pxm7Apr 01 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #democracy #somaApr 01 00:55
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70162502Apr 01 00:58
schestowitzTrue...Apr 01 00:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70163135 https://identi.ca/notice/70163135 https://identi.ca/notice/70163393Apr 01 00:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, How does Apple maintain a "professional" appearanceApr 01 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter True...Apr 01 01:00
DaemonFClike they say they're popular with multimedia professionals and suchApr 01 01:00
DaemonFCbut until last year they didn't even have an OpenGL stack with Occlusion Query supportApr 01 01:00
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 01:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kenyob/status/53549564338249728Apr 01 01:00
-RichiH-[Global Notice] ♥♥♥ freenode loves you and you want to check out http://blog.freenode.net/2011/04/important-service-announcement-regarding-defocus/ ♥♥♥Apr 01 01:02
sebsebsebwell that looked like a bit of a strange globalApr 01 01:05
ender2071[19:58] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, How does Apple maintain a "professional" appearanceApr 01 01:07
ender2071im thinking they probably enforce interface standardsApr 01 01:08
DaemonFCit must be a standard or jono and friends wouldn't be trying so hard for certificationApr 01 01:11
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 01:11
DaemonFCender2071, I noticed Ext4 has gotten a lot faster in 2.6.38Apr 01 01:15
DaemonFCfaster than XFS evenApr 01 01:15
DaemonFCwhat gives?Apr 01 01:16
DaemonFCdelaylog helps but XFS still has trouble dealing with tons of little filesApr 01 01:16
DaemonFCit's never been good at unpacking a kernel tarballApr 01 01:17
DaemonFCbut Ext4 just blows past it latelyApr 01 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Listeningto Arcade Fire, Neon BibleApr 01 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ffii/@ffii] Cake from #FFII for #FSFE 10th birthday party at #cbase in berlin http://ur1.ca/3pyohApr 01 01:36
schestowitzhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-27/wall-street-proprietary-trading-under-cover-commentary-by-michael-lewis.htmlApr 01 01:39
schestowitzhi ender2071Apr 01 01:39
schestowitzhow are you?Apr 01 01:39
schestowitzoh shooooot... bot is downApr 01 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] holy cow! I accidentally the whole http://hackerspace.pl/! is that serious?! /cc @hackerspaceplApr 01 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Facebook joined W3C - Facebook joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1bZwB0Apr 01 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Baby Owls: We have owls in the woods around here. I love going to and from the office after dark and hearing the... http://wmk.me/g8kSEmApr 01 01:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @igorsoares #Fedora Weekly News 269: http://is.gd/yrRt9ZApr 01 01:50
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DaemonFCsebsebseb: I might make a 2.6.39-rc1 kernelApr 01 02:16
DaemonFCdoubt it will boot up thoughApr 01 02:16
DaemonFCno BKL tends to make FGLRX do crazy stuff :)Apr 01 02:16
DaemonFChopefully this preview driver plays nice, but this is ATIApr 01 02:17
DaemonFCso I'm not holding my breathApr 01 02:17
DaemonFCI doubt they're worried about working with anything other than Ubuntu's standard configurationApr 01 02:18
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DaemonFCUbuntu is defaulting to SLAB instead of SLUBApr 01 02:31
DaemonFChmmmmApr 01 02:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] RT @jahendler: some good news - China ibrings up Hong Kong data sharing site -- http://bit.ly/ikgyQo #opengov #opendataApr 01 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] : http://twitter.com/#!/jzb/status/53441658951438336 http://wmk.me/hixmJYApr 01 03:30
TechrightsBot-tr@jzb: Microsoft is going to the EU about Google being anticompetitive. That's like Jack the Ripper going to the cops for getting mugged.Apr 01 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: Kyrus 53 Mariush's baby is finally born. http://bit.ly/gYsrt1 #weblit #webfic #Kyrus #worthreading #fantasyApr 01 03:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: Police cashed in during #G20 summit http://t.co/pTUByC0 via @goldsbie #g20reportApr 01 03:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] CRIA doesn't like anyone questioning their questionable numbers. In fact they are livid, claim to have absolute proof, but won't show it.Apr 01 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Rescue of the gold-chained Haian http://bit.ly/h7C93o #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifi #sffApr 01 04:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @stonemirror: HP releases webOS 3.0 SDK for free http://t.co/qmk0OH2 - #MicrosoftDeathWatchApr 01 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Motorola may be building own operating system: http://is.gd/oDakK3 #MicrosoftDeathWatchApr 01 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Microsoft distributing Windows 8 builds - Release for X86 and ARM next Summer http://is.gd/VdWAAp #MicrosoftDeathWatchApr 01 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The SF #Giants beaten by LA #Dodgers in season's first #baseball game. SF 1, LA 2. #LABaseballApr 01 04:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm building a kernel with dragoneggApr 01 04:10
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 04:10
DaemonFCjust interested me :PApr 01 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @michal Q: How to generate a random string? A: Put a fresh student in front of !vim and tell him to quit.Apr 01 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Happy mailman reminder day !Apr 01 04:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] CHOPE Protocol revisited: http://www.scribd.com/doc/52039547/Chope-Reservation-and-Access-ProtocolApr 01 04:45
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DaemonFCapparently the new FGLRX driver never actually locks the kernelApr 01 04:57
DaemonFCbut it does check for the existence of the big kernel lock and will fail to build the module if you don't have itApr 01 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hmmm... it seems the Nexus S is finally available in India http://androidos.in/2011/04/samsung-launches-nexus-s-in-india-for-inr-30400/Apr 01 05:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to very loud Rush.Apr 01 05:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @themadhatter It's better than #organic, but it's not perfect. If you have a better term, I'm all ears.Apr 01 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Should Elizabeth May be invited to the Leadership Debates? 83.21% in Favor so far: http://is.gd/8Q5u4e #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 01 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @clacke I don't have a better term. If I come up with one I'll let you know. #organic #food isn't (contains H2O if you missed the start)Apr 01 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Cdn Science Minister is a Chiropractor - no wonder he doesn't understand science! Cambridge don't re-elect Gary Goodyear #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 01 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Gotta run - installing Bohdi Linux on an Acer Laptop.Apr 01 05:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz, my Dragonegg kernel turned out nicely :)Apr 01 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Provenance Working Group; Renews RDF Web Applications Working Group http://ow.ly/1bZGUGApr 01 06:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jpope This may be the saddest news I've heard all day... http://goo.gl/aohZ4 !cyanogenmod !androidApr 01 06:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: #longterm #linux kernel 2.6.35.12 "This release contains security fixes and everyone is encouraged to update." http://bit.ly/eN0MFrApr 01 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 Yes. If there is a leadership debate it should include all leaders of all registered parties. Period.Apr 01 06:50
MinceR015950 < DaemonFC> schestowitz, How does Apple maintain a "professional" appearanceApr 01 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Those who don't tell the truth can be annoyed when called out.Apr 01 06:56
MinceRthey do?Apr 01 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @themadhatter "Ethisphere .. recognizes .. companies with less than perfect .. need to have their successes celebrated" http://ur1.ca/3q14lApr 01 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter That may be, but unless there are Canadian printers offering comparable service, shipping woes may be a fact of life....Apr 01 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ... admittedly search not exhaustive.. research to find options; once !mynovel ready will cruise @createspace forums !selfPubApr 01 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Im Untergrund mit Assange http://www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/im-gespraech-suelette-dreyfus-im-untergru... http://bit.ly/fxOGkjApr 01 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Oslo Freedom Forum now on http://www.oslofreedomforum.com/ http://bit.ly/iaRULqApr 01 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Got Bohdi Linux installed on the Acer laptop. One problem, it installed every Tux & Penguin game in existence as I got wireless running!Apr 01 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Whats up with all this "Bleed Blue" stuff. As far as I know Sri Lanka also wear BLUE. So whom do you support ?Apr 01 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anyone else have problems with #bohdi #linux installing all #tux and #penguin games without being told to? This has me puzzled.Apr 01 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Oh, and freaking sound won't work. Damn Acer.Apr 01 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ghostler Personal view is best way to ensure ethical behavior by corporations is to hold their feet in the fire till cherry red.Apr 01 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter digital is fine; once i have book-book ready I'll do every digi-format possible, but some won't go that way !SelfPub #DRMApr 01 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jonobacon Google lay some Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal respec' outside the Canonical office in London - http://is.gd/wpqDiK #ubuntu #g ...Apr 01 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd@ ioerror On my first detainment last summer, I was specifically told my treatment is special & was 2 continue indefinitely !freelibertyApr 01 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !GNOME 3.0 postponed again http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html !loApr 01 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Maybe you could do a duet with @methoddan :) I bet he could come up with a !crunchbang song :PApr 01 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. OMG Ubuntus April Fools broke all their permalinks. Nice.Apr 01 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bobobex: I hate today. You can't trust anything you read on the interweb! Going back to bed for a while.Apr 01 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @howardknopf EXCESS !COPYRIGHT: Breaking Blogging Deployments in London and Geneva http://ur1.ca/3q1g8 !copyfight #IPKatApr 01 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse :) #TFInFApr 01 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] F. #Gwibber doesn't work when network manager is disabled. But I don't need no F. network manager, I can configure network by hand, #WTF!Apr 01 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Gwibber acts like MSWindows. Takes decisions for you w/o informing or overrides. Not idiot proof, surely not savy-frendly either. #failApr 01 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @yokoono On the Day of the Birth of Nutopia - 1 April 2011 by Yoko Ono http://ur1.ca/3q1hw << you go, girl!Apr 01 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @satipera: @themadhatter we should all join @carlopiana #UTC group then we can all get april fools jokes at the same time.Apr 01 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @themadhatter The central energy cycle is organic rather than silicon-based or something else. Other chemicals like water are peripheral.Apr 01 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Glinner rt @iftf Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture - http://ur1.ca/3q1i4 #FutureOfPersonhood < this is NUTSApr 01 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Done with joining all groups with my status.net account. Now let's start lurking and see if migration is possible ATSApr 01 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @Codepope: RT @LinuxJedi: An article on MySQL to Drizzle migration I wrote for The H Online http://bit.ly/eP5MJyApr 01 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @createlaw @ballard_ip: Mandatory reading for trademark,domain name att/ys - WIPO’s 2011 compendium of UDRP law: http://goo.gl/wCeYeApr 01 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @karsten Thanks!Apr 01 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identicaApr 01 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @todoleo: @fabsh @methoddan You are mentioned in this exclusive interview with Bill Gates at Todoleo.com http://ur1.ca/3q1h1Apr 01 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Fucking April 1st.Apr 01 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Minecraft USB Nether Portal: http://outl.ws/jApr 01 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] in other news, scriptfrenzy is real, and it is happening now.Apr 01 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fired data center worker wiped out TV show http://ur1.ca/3q1mdApr 01 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Increasing Throughput in IP Networks with ESP-Based Forwarding:http://ur1.ca/3q1n8Apr 01 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: We just released Linux Outlaws 198 - GNU/Linux Outlaws > http://outl.ws/kApr 01 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: in other news, scriptfrenzy is real, and it is happening now.Apr 01 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LO 198 is out and it's real: http://outl.ws/k ;)Apr 01 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint http://ur1.ca/3q1nuApr 01 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] House votes to direct $100M in taxpayer dollars to religious private schools http://ur1.ca/3q1nxApr 01 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing http://ur1.ca/3q1o1Apr 01 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman Wants YouTube Video Covered Up http://ur1.ca/3q1o7Apr 01 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Forget about IPv6. I think this IPv4.1 makes is so much earier! http://packetlife.net/blog/2011/apr/1/alternative-ipv6-works/Apr 01 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pioneer Anomaly Solved By 1970s Computer Graphics http://ur1.ca/3q1oa !scienceApr 01 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Lybia: Help free the lawyer that was gangraped by Gadaffis men http://ur1.ca/3q1onApr 01 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Supreme Court's Antonin Scalia fined over car shunt, why isn't this fucker in prison? http://ur1.ca/3q1pfApr 01 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Falling jobless claims, something else to blame on #Obama http://ur1.ca/3q1qwApr 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: RT @hotdogsladies: Mm. Fake Press Releases on the Internet Day. Let the awkward, slow-motion skullfuck of humor begin.Apr 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Morning Kev @sandersch @weeguyApr 01 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] From #lkml: Announcing the longstanding secret kernel.org redundant infrastructure http://bit.ly/gPQHZT Pictures on http://skynet.kernel.orgApr 01 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @knurd666: From #lkml: Announcing [..] secret kernel.org redundant infra http://bit.ly/gPQHZT Pictures on http://skynet.kernel.orgApr 01 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Chrisis #tokyo radiation lower than normal #hongkong radiation. http://ur1.ca/3q1rn #fukushima #nuclearApr 01 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! Good one... ♺ @zack: new blog post: « pushing cross-distro collaboration to the next level » http://ur1.ca/3q1rsApr 01 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♺ @pinkpomelo Overheard - "how come PAP don't need to sell party newsletter like the oppositions?" "they've got Straits Times" #sgelectionsApr 01 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #aprilfools! :) ♻ @vvillenave: #XKCD now in #3D! http://xkcd.com/880 http://xkcd.com/xk3d #geek #cc #culturelibreApr 01 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♺ @tocsg "You must be able to smell people out." - LKY http://fb.me/IGMixS8lApr 01 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: Just bought two more Minecraft copies for the kids, and setup a new private server at home. Should keep them busy over Easter :)Apr 01 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kenneth Branagh: The star who forgot how to shine - http://bit.ly/idceAO cruel, but rather fine, profile of one of my favourite actorsApr 01 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why "skepticism" is now just another cult - http://bit.ly/hUZ7Vo certainly a danger skeptics must be aware ofApr 01 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? @stcom can't control their dents? (also at http://yfrog.com/gy5ypbmj) http://ur1.ca/3q1vhApr 01 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] April Fools 2011: The Big List - http://tcrn.ch/fIDiB2 helps you to avoid wasting time and excitement today...Apr 01 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Smartphone Wars: #Microsoft may win after all - http://bit.ly/eTezmy not that #esr's being provocative or anythingApr 01 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just finished off my SNES, it looks like :( My first chunk of hardware is goneApr 01 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Publicity Rights After Death Are Severely Limiting Culture - http://bit.ly/gzokeM surprise: make something "property", get daftnessApr 01 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Avoid the pitfalls of the JavaScript Trap on Gmail - http://bit.ly/eCp4IC #javascript is the elephant in the web...or somethingApr 01 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Blasting chiptunes at the lab and wondering what to do with the snes's SHVC-SOUND boardApr 01 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Numb3rs explaining IRC - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQApr 01 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Funambol VintageSync Syncs Trillions of Analog Devices with the Cloud - like your paper agenda! http://is.gd/0WI8zC #AFApr 01 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Announcing: the W3C Command Line Tool and the W3C Mini Server http://kwz.me/n0Apr 01 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] If you like Free Software, Donate $1, if not, then donate $20.. (yup, it need improvement then !! )Apr 01 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Today in the Netherlands we celebrate the 10 years anniversary of legal same sex marriages. !LGBT !prideApr 01 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @clacke Yes, but then we can hire people to fill out claims for them, thus reducing the number of jobless! #WINNINGApr 01 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: Nice #minecraft April Fools. http://twitpic.com/4fluwd http://twitpic.com/4fluzzApr 01 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] WON!!! :-DApr 01 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @charlesschulz: yes. I would like to work on a Linux distro with Florian Mueller as well. I think that would be very important for FOSS...Apr 01 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] A massive SQL injection attack has already affected 380,000 urls !linux #web #security http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10833Apr 01 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo198 The freedom! It is glorious!!Apr 01 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Everything looks bad if you remember it!" - Homer J. Simpson !qApr 01 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: WON!!! :-D < Details?Apr 01 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo197 testApr 01 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #lo197 test 2Apr 01 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana GOOG suggested search: libel, refused to filter, sued for injunction, won; appeal, won. C Milan 31/03/2011 Bardolla v GoogleApr 01 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The thunder sounds in #DAII are so realistic. Awesome Foley work! :)Apr 01 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @jwildeboer @charlesschulz Let's call it #Pattux - the patent-filled Distro ;-)Apr 01 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3.0 Rescheduled for September 2011 Release http://goo.gl/ja8FNApr 01 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: 3D stuff gives me a headache http://xkcd.com/880/Apr 01 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @charlesschulz: I hear rumours that Florian Mueller will soon be appointed CEO of #Oracle and become a board member of #MSFT Corporation.Apr 01 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks. I felt awkward going after them, but they were totally unreasonable & client had to pay a lot to solve.Apr 01 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Mozilla's Do Not Track header gaining ad industry support http://goo.gl/fWdlrApr 01 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !GNOME be trollin’ – 3.0 delayed (again) to September 2011 http://goo.gl/8AGI5Apr 01 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @toros you did notice the date? April 1st? ;-)Apr 01 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah! More coffee!Apr 01 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks. I must say I've won even slightly more important cases ;-P But this is going to hit hard too.Apr 01 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Debolution - The advance of Evolution to !debian !linux http://ur1.ca/3q29nApr 01 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Natty Beta released, reviewed http://goo.gl/PZ6OMApr 01 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #elementaryOS ‘Jupiter’ released, reviewed http://goo.gl/PO35mApr 01 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Houston, we have a problem – the X server has crashed http://goo.gl/ky00AApr 01 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Earth renders cheeky #Narwhal outside !Canonical’s London office http://goo.gl/SspsFApr 01 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] UMPlayer: New Cross-Platform Mplayer GUI Based On SMPlayer http://bit.ly/eEW1mcApr 01 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Google locking down !Android? No. I doubt we could be so lucky. http://goo.gl/8brpLApr 01 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] smspillaz: A dark new future #Compiz - Windows 8 and Mac OS X Lion will be moving to compiz http://goo.gl/WbLpb :) #April1stApr 01 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Could the #Fonera 2.0n be the first #FreedomBox? http://corp.fon.com/en/products/fonera2n/Apr 01 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Acer CEO’s resignation makes me less interested in Acer tablets [OPINION] http://goo.gl/aiRprApr 01 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Chromium blog: UA String Changes Coming In Chrome 11 http://goo.gl/Num4lApr 01 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu #Natty Beta 1, Released [Video & Screenshots] http://goo.gl/cyxvXApr 01 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Google Cloud Print Ready printers now available http://goo.gl/3N8KFApr 01 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Bizarre Cathedral - 95 http://goo.gl/DylA1 sudo it's your turn to get the coffeeApr 01 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: UMPlayer: New Cross-Platform Mplayer GUI Based On SMPlayer http://goo.gl/KOtaaApr 01 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Google Chrome blog: Improving finger dexterity for faster web browsing http://goo.gl/2ICeVApr 01 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] And now... to celebrate: a tour on my motorbike on this gorgeous sunny dayApr 01 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Nice, amarok just deleted 8gb of music. Good on ya!Apr 01 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] After 10 years !fsfe new strategy: Beside !fs now also hardware: "Cutting-edge development: the Analogue Printer" http://ur1.ca/3q2bk !gnuApr 01 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: Delaying !GNOME 3.0, again http://goo.gl/tv9UuApr 01 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 51 million downloads on 2011-04-01 10:12 UTCApr 01 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Fridge: !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal Beta 1 Released yesterday http://goo.gl/CK0tHApr 01 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad News: Launchpad will be read-only from 08.00 UTC 6th April for about 90 minutes http://goo.gl/dHNxe !uApr 01 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe After 10 years !fsfe new strategy: Beside !fs now also hardware: "Cutting-edge development: the Analogue Printer" http://ur1.ca ...Apr 01 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @toros !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Earth renders cheeky #Narwhal outside !Canonical’s London office http://goo.gl/SspsFApr 01 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon is Jef Spaleta http://goo.gl/ZDRUg :) #april1stApr 01 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Gwibber 2.91 (on Ubuntu Natty) only accepts twitter, identi.ca and Facebook accounts. No status.net. How #fail is that??Apr 01 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Xubuntu 11.04 beta 1 released yesterday http://goo.gl/WNmZbApr 01 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Edubuntu 11.04 beta 1 released yesterday http://goo.gl/qMMQKApr 01 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @flattrchattr What's this? No April fools for sure! Weekly Review: By popular demand! http://ur1.ca/3q2bw !flattrApr 01 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: Announcing !Ubuntu App Developer Week http://goo.gl/Wb631Apr 01 11:25
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edubuntu 11.04 beta 1 released ! | Edubuntu .::. Size~: 17.22 KBApr 01 11:25
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Ubuntu App Developer Week « Benvinguts, passeu passeu .::. Size~: 49.59 KBApr 01 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach's blog: !Ubuntu Development Guide: Fixing a bug in Ubuntu http://goo.gl/tQdIAApr 01 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !spurs have lost Woodgate for the Madrid game :( !footballApr 01 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: It Will be Boring for a While http://goo.gl/EavvfApr 01 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @themadhatter "Ethisphere .. companies with less than perfect historical corporate .. operating records .. have their successes celebrated"Apr 01 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: #Dosbox for the win! http://goo.gl/0G4C4Apr 01 11:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Dosbox for the win! .::. Size~: 55.15 KBApr 01 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Web app matching with !Chromium and !Unity http://goo.gl/siHpuApr 01 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Silver Fox: An Interview with Resident Troll http://goo.gl/0j1Et #april1stApr 01 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Can't really see Sunderland beating Citeh, but it would help keep !spurs in the top 5. !footballApr 01 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] heise: Berliner Außenministerium #AA wechselt zu #Apple http://ur1.ca/3q1ed #bundesleaks (http://ur1.ca/3d60f ) !fsfe !fsApr 01 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a rare occasion, malware story from the #BBC mentioning #Microsoft http://is.gd/USn2B7 are they starting to be credible? or a one-off?Apr 01 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Interview with Resident Troll « Thoughts « Silver Fox's Space .::. Size~: 27.6 KBApr 01 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online - Berliner Außenministerium wechselt zu Apple .::. Size~: 47.13 KBApr 01 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dradio Wissen Interview: Ohne GNU/Linux im Auswärtigen Amt «  I love it here .::. Size~: 10.44 KBApr 01 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bad news for #Mozilla embedders http://goo.gl/SPPnHApr 01 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] News@11: #Mozilla gives the finger to embedders http://goo.gl/sCBZVApr 01 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Entre code et gazon - Bad news for Mozilla embedders .::. Size~: 6.17 KBApr 01 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: np237: News@11: Mozilla gives the finger to embedders .::. Size~: 61.14 KBApr 01 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @arashm It's April Fools' Day! Don't reshare this !gnome delaying thing please!Apr 01 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.8.2 has been released: http://goo.gl/ILU6D | Package is waiting for dependencies: http://goo.gl/xn28HApr 01 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06607Apr 01 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @chemist http://bit.ly/f4EM3i get your adblocker for the real world..... best April Fool's I've seen so farApr 01 11:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @popey http://is.gd/ggCJJk Is where you go if you click the link in the #minecraft april fool.Apr 01 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I just *love* math: http://kwejk.pl/obrazek/31478Apr 01 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh And it's still better than the distro below it :PApr 01 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm using Oxygen-Transparant http://ur1.ca/32ngz It's so hot! !kde !kubuntuApr 01 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Install Oxygen-Transparent Style In Ubuntu [KDE] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 71.61 KBApr 01 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YEAH! http://ur1.ca/3q2il #ABC via @SuannaTatarApr 01 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gohmert: #Libya Attacks Are False Flag For Obama To Call Up Private Army Created By Health Care Law http://ur1.ca/3q2iq #batshitwhackoApr 01 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh I signed up as Beta Tester lol! http://adblockforchrome.blogspot.com/2011/03/adblock-freedom.html?commentPage=2Apr 01 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @headphonica #hintoftheday: the amount of cracked & crippled software on your computer will be significantly reduced when switching t ...Apr 01 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Desperate WI Republican congressman struggling to get by on $174K turns to copyright trolling http://ur1.ca/3q2k3Apr 01 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman's wicked-funny monologue at the Congressional Correspondents' Dinner http://ur1.ca/3q2kiApr 01 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] David Rovics is playing on the 10th in Cologne! @th3k4ty wanna go? :)Apr 01 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus. Aveline is bloody annoying .... :/ #DAIIApr 01 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @yamanickill Haha! Foursquare just april fooled me! No points for my last check on. Awesome.Apr 01 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My last post in the !twitterfree group. I went back...... wards :/ http://twitter.com/#!/hxlshcirApr 01 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I hate my big mouth sometimesApr 01 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmmm.... Wife soup! ;)Apr 01 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why has the Westboro Baptist Church turned their back on God? http://ur1.ca/3q2syApr 01 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Westboro Baptist Church Lady Gaga Parody .::. Size~: 117.97 KBApr 01 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm listening to the amazingly soulful Nat Birchall playing Keep The Light Shining from the Guiding Spirit CD http://bit.ly/hBBxwrApr 01 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's music like this that makes me forget what aholes the RIAA and their cahoots areApr 01 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Dat amining, the Internet, and you, http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2058114,00.html #torApr 01 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Child free flights from October 2011" - http://ur1.ca/3q2uv - #RyanAir #FTW ;-) #ABCApr 01 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @nizarus: that's it ♺ @kangoulya: RT @dxld #OpenSource is a development model. #FreeSoftware is a way of lifeApr 01 12:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Child free flights from October 2011 .::. Size~: 21.35 KBApr 01 12:58
-RichiH-[Global Notice] The first round was received extremely well and we got between two and three dozen correct replies. We upped the ante and another ten cloaks will be handed out to anyone who solves the updated and slightly more evil version at http://blog.freenode.net/2011/04/important-service-announcement-regarding-defocus/Apr 01 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Time to move on. I have accepted a job offering from Microsoft. We will work hard on GPLing Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. #ABCApr 01 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] seems I'm guilty of propagating 1, possibly 2, April Fool's: skepticism (http://bit.ly/hUZ7Vo) & smartphone (http://bit.ly/eTezmy) </sigh>Apr 01 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems @FOSSpatents made Linus think: http://ur1.ca/3ptyr - Linux kernel relicensed under BSD. #ABCApr 01 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @syntax: April Fools day sucks. You think all this great stuff is happening and then people crush your hopesApr 01 13:21
schestowitz<MinceR> r4wrApr 01 13:22
schestowitz>:Apr 01 13:22
MinceRo/Apr 01 13:23
schestowitzo/Apr 01 13:24
schestowitzAny Linux news this eeek or just new Ubuntu wallpapers?Apr 01 13:24
schestowitzThe news has been dry...Apr 01 13:24
oiaohmApril 1Apr 01 13:27
oiaohmLinux world lays low.Apr 01 13:27
schestowitzI can'\t be bothered adding links to fake news :-)Apr 01 13:28
schestowitz2011 is a prime number... hm...Apr 01 13:29
oiaohmschestowitz: there has not even been that much good.Apr 01 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android/Linux Predicted to have a Near-Monopoly of Smartphones by 2015 http://ur1.ca/3q31f Microsoft apologists go further & call it cartelApr 01 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android/Linux Predicted to have a Near-Monopoly of Smartphones by 2015 at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.86 KBApr 01 13:30
oiaohmEven googles 2011 april fools day jokes are not up to there normal standard.  http://google.about.com/od/experimentalgoogletools/tp/aprilfools.htm schestowitzApr 01 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Howto install Creepy social stalkking app on !crunchbang !linux http://ur1.ca/3q32qApr 01 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On Virtualbox w/o kernel guest extension, my Natty boots and logs in in less than 20 seconds. Shuts down in less than 5. #impressiveApr 01 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Back on Twitter... but only to use silly apps and spread the identica gospel :) http://richs-lxh.com/twitter-ive-gone-back-wards/Apr 01 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LxH Blog » Howto install Creepy Social Stalker app on Crunchbang Linux .::. Size~: 37.34 KBApr 01 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's 'App Store trademark': A farce of Jobsian proportions http://ur1.ca/3q33t vocabulary is being privatisedApr 01 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meet Microsofts new tablet - the Goliath! 42"! http://ur1.ca/3q33r and http://ur1.ca/3q33s [German only ATM]Apr 01 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple's 'App Store trademark': A farce of Jobsian proportions • The Register .::. Size~: 24.9 KBApr 01 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: April, April: Ein Tablet namens Goliath und Angry Nerds - Golem.de .::. Size~: 62.72 KBApr 01 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft kündigt 42” Tablet an - Pressemeldung .::. Size~: 50.46 KBApr 01 13:37
schestowitzoiaohm: what's this year's Google prank?Apr 01 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The "Did You Know" section on Wikipedia today is a masterpiece of research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_PageApr 01 13:38
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oiaohmhttp://google.about.com/od/experimentalgoogletools/tp/aprilfools.htm  Top two on that list. schestowitz both kinda sux.Apr 01 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Meet Microsofts new tablet - the Goliath! 42"! http://ur1.ca/3q33r and http://ur1.ca/3q33sApr 01 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: April, April: Ein Tablet namens Goliath und Angry Nerds - Golem.de .::. Size~: 62.72 KBApr 01 13:40
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oiaohmOk slashdots one is reasoanble http://meta.slashdot.org/story/11/03/31/2125200/SlashTweaks-Let-YOU-Micro-Edit-SlashdotApr 01 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Acer CEO and president Gianfranco Lanci resigns http://ur1.ca/3q34y that's the man who openly blasted #Vista on behalf of "the industry"Apr 01 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hey, @fabsh, ist that you in the video? The "some german guy"? http://ur1.ca/3q35h ;-) #ABCApr 01 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google and #ARM reportedly plan standardization for Android/ARM platforms http://ur1.ca/3q35c #Linux based platforms (non server)Apr 01 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acer CEO and president Gianfranco Lanci resigns .::. Size~: 76.46 KBApr 01 13:45
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google and ARM reportedly plan to establish standardization for Android/ARM platforms .::. Size~: 75.89 KBApr 01 13:45
oiaohmstandardization for Android/ARM platforms  << Ok This process was already started between arm and meego.Apr 01 13:47
oiaohmTo sort out Linux kernel starting on ARM hardware.Apr 01 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...according to Google's net crawlers, the web now contains over 31 million open source projects" http://ur1.ca/3q36d I published about 10Apr 01 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google open source guru: 'Why we ban the AGPL' • The Register .::. Size~: 24.63 KBApr 01 13:48
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, good newsApr 01 13:48
schestowitzBut it's not LSBApr 01 13:48
schestowitzGoogle does its own thing;. What about Linaro?Apr 01 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google does not like choice. Good luck adjusting their products' looks, behaviour (or even choice of licence, which is free to add).Apr 01 13:50
schestowitz"Google and Kansas City have a joint project to change things. They are going to spawn gigabit/s Internet access." http://mrpogson.com/2011/03/31/kansas-city-enters-the-21st-century/Apr 01 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kansas City Enters the 21st Century at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.27 KBApr 01 13:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/53747938781970432Apr 01 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: Techrights is the kind of site where the "april fools" story has a date stamp of 03.31.11 in 14 point type.Apr 01 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No Fools: 300 Feds Wipe Out 50% Of US Music #Piracy Overnight - http://bit.ly/esLasi not just witty, but makes an important pointApr 01 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Fools: 300 Feds Wipe Out 50% Of US Music Piracy Overnight | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.26 KBApr 01 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Health: Improving health the open source way | http://bit.ly/fd22pvApr 01 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Summer of Code project ideas for #LibreOffice. http://ur1.ca/3q390 #openoffice #freedomApr 01 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @drizztbsd: RT @michal Q: How to generate a random string? A: Put a fresh student in front of #vim and tell him to quit.Apr 01 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Pure genious!! #cbproject See you emerge next year ^^Apr 01 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-04-01: Creepy app warns of an end to privacy The biggest threat to your privacy is not the discl... http://wmk.me/g3JiR0Apr 01 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, i'm off home. Laters !identiverse, have a good weekend :)Apr 01 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2011-04-01 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 54.01 KBApr 01 14:08
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schestowitzBlech. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Mar-30.htmlApr 01 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono and Google Summer of Code - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.52 KBApr 01 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @opensourceway Open Health: Improving health the open source way | http://bit.ly/fd22pvApr 01 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Health: Improving health the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.78 KBApr 01 14:13
schestowitzender2071: you're suggesting BT and Microsoft relationship could *possibly* have me targeted; I wish there was truth to that, but there's none :-)Apr 01 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goodbye Ubuntu 9.10 http://ur1.ca/3q3ba it was a great release, thanks CanonicalApr 01 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Goodbye Ubuntu 9.10 .::. Size~: 13.66 KBApr 01 14:16
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/robotic-pharmacy-machines-process-meds-improve-safety/46801  Wonder if this will make it simpler to kill someone in hospital.Apr 01 14:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robotic pharmacy: Machines process meds, improve safety | ZDNet .::. Size~: 94.04 KBApr 01 14:18
oiaohmYes humans make errors humans also correct errors.Apr 01 14:18
schestowitzit's a ptogramming taskApr 01 14:18
schestowitzYou could also do facial recognition better with computers if implemented wellApr 01 14:19
oiaohmI was more thinking what happened here in Australia.Apr 01 14:19
schestowitzwhat happened?Apr 01 14:19
schestowitzNot so long ago some virus shut down Aussie ambulance service somewhere :-)Apr 01 14:19
oiaohmWhere one of our political people was attempted to be killed by hospital computer.Apr 01 14:19
schestowitzWINDOWS virusApr 01 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.39 Kernel Merge Window Closes With -rc1 http://ur1.ca/3q3c8 #kernelApr 01 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux 2.6.39 Kernel Merge Window Closes With -rc1 .::. Size~: 17.97 KBApr 01 14:20
oiaohmWhat happened the medical records got breached.  Drug got altered.Apr 01 14:20
oiaohmThe clipboard on bed saved him.  schestowitzApr 01 14:20
Ender2070facial recognition is everywhere nowApr 01 14:20
oiaohmThe clipboard had that he was critical alergic to a particular drug.  schestowitzApr 01 14:21
oiaohmAnd that had now been prescribed in a very high dosage.Apr 01 14:21
oiaohmYes hack computer system kill attempt.Apr 01 14:21
oiaohmAfter that computer crimes here in this country came classed as possibly the same as attempted murder.Apr 01 14:22
oiaohmBasically its one thing to have computer provide the drugs.  Its another to make sure they are the right ones.Apr 01 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What Would Be Disastrous For Linux, Open-Source: Rather than doing any April Fools' Jokes around here (the GNOME... http://bit.ly/hbtDOmApr 01 14:23
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oiaohmEnder2070: Even criminals are using facial recognition to find the police.Apr 01 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux distros build on #Conary package system http://ur1.ca/3q3d1 #foresight #gnu #linux is backApr 01 14:25
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oiaohmTech is a double sided weapon.Apr 01 14:26
oiaohmOnce people are perfectly trackable so are the police.Apr 01 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @tdfischer: Why isn't !fedora in on this Canterbury project? Is there a merger with microsoft pending or something? < Ask Oracle ;-)Apr 01 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: ♺ @drizztbsd: RT @michal Q: How to generate a random string? A: Put a fresh student in front of #vim and tell him to quit.Apr 01 14:26
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Symbian-source-surfaces-at-Nokia-1219536.html  This is interesting that Symbian source code is turning up again.Apr 01 14:28
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schestowitzEnder2070: but crappy programsApr 01 14:30
schestowitzoiaohm: it might as well. Many phones still use that.Apr 01 14:31
schestowitzThis is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_0ZiletC4AApr 01 14:32
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oiaohmschestowitz: Remember Nokia closed the foundation then the code disappeared from public display.  Apr 01 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan New federated social bookmarking service http://freelish.us/ -- http://ur1.ca/3q3cx #fswApr 01 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bobobex: #lo198 is excellent! New-found respect for @fabsh & @methoddan :DApr 01 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here's The Special #AMD Present For #Ubuntu Users http://ur1.ca/3q3et unlike w/ #nvidia we get source code, tooApr 01 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Microsoft introduceert Goliath Tablet http://ur1.ca/3q33r !microsoft !windowsApr 01 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME 3.0 delayed until September http://lwn.net/Articles/436539/rssApr 01 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenCorporates - Open Database of the Corporate World - http://bit.ly/gW6BuN potentially important new project gains steam #opendataApr 01 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hercules Launches New eCAFE Netbooks http://ur1.ca/3q3hg yes, it runs #LinuxApr 01 14:45
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schestowitzoiaohm: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/google_open_source_guru_chris_dibona_on_open_source_art_nasa/Apr 01 14:46
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oiaohmschestowitz: and because of that FSF is now asking google to open source more.Apr 01 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Headache - http://xkcd.com/ wow; just wow #xkcd #3d (v @technollama)Apr 01 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Headache - http://xkcd.com/ wow; just wow #xkcd #3d (v @technollama) < works for the complete archive!?! #Canwekeepthis?Apr 01 14:56
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schestowitzre Foresight Linux Apr 01 14:59
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70202504Apr 01 14:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 13:51:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they started up again back in December (ish) it went from alpha 1 to RC very quickly, but definitley not cutting edgeApr 01 14:59
schestowitzanyone tried it?Apr 01 14:59
schestowitzI think it's elated to rpathApr 01 14:59
MinceRi did and it sucks like none otherApr 01 14:59
MinceRmainly because conary is retardedApr 01 15:00
schestowitzoiaohm: did you see what FSF says about gmail now?Apr 01 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spotlight on Linux: #Supergamer Supreme 2.5 http://ur1.ca/3q3l8 Susan Linton has followed it for years. #gnu #linux #gamingApr 01 15:00
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MinceRit's been discussed beforeApr 01 15:00
oiaohmschestowitz: Yes that after google call to nasa to be more open.Apr 01 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open leadership webcast recap: How social technology can transform how you lead with @CharleneLi | http://bit.ly/hSwnQPApr 01 15:06
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schestowitzLFMAOing @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U44HAMnhIF4Apr 01 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian 6 Squeeze review – nearly, but not quite… http://ur1.ca/3q3mm "good choice if you want to run a server or a desktop with stable..."Apr 01 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Elementary OS Pulling an Elive - Charging for Linux? http://ur1.ca/3q3nt "orders are usually needed only by software that requires a cost.."Apr 01 15:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @clacke The Chemical that makes up over 70% of the body mass is peripheral? That's a curious choice of words.Apr 01 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jwildeboer: ♺ @charlesschulz: I hear rumors Florian Mueller will be appointed CEO of #Oracle and become board member of #MicrosoftApr 01 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ghostler I'd rather burn them at the stake - it sends an object lesson that isn't soon forgotten.Apr 01 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OMGUbuntu editor: "I’m the editor of a site that revolves around Ubuntu...I’ve had #Vista7 happily nestled next to Ubuntu on my hard-drive."Apr 01 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I see a similarity. @jonobacon also advertised #Vista7 in his site. How bizarre.Apr 01 15:23
schestowitzElementary https://identi.ca/notice/70203935 https://identi.ca/notice/70203985 https://identi.ca/notice/70204034 LOLApr 01 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:17:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the torrent is free, the cost is for the overheads of their servers etc but yeah they're not getting good PR over this stuffApr 01 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:18:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz apparently their IRC community are a buncha arrogant dickheads, "all the smugness of OSX, less cost" at least #Apple profitApr 01 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 14:19:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz for a Linux distro the website is very "sales brochure lite" with little real info other than the sales pitch, not even an md5Apr 01 15:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/53820529525796864Apr 01 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz Here's The Special #AMD Present 4 #Ubuntu Users http://ur1.ca/3q3et unlike w/ #nvidia we get source code,too [distro limited]Apr 01 15:23
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MinceRisn't this Elementary thing just another April Fools?Apr 01 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parliamentary question on the EU Commission’s new #copyright czar - http://bit.ly/gFHfvz great question; what will the answer be?Apr 01 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Parliamentary question on EU Commission’s new #copyright czar - http://bit.ly/gFHfvz great question; what will the answer be?Apr 01 15:31
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GoForbes28helloApr 01 15:35
MinceRj0Apr 01 15:35
GoForbes28hi roy (schestowitz)Apr 01 15:35
GoForbes28Big newsApr 01 15:36
GoForbes28Really, big newsApr 01 15:36
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GoForbes28Listen up mincer and daemonfcApr 01 15:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, I managed to build a BKL-free kernel with FGLRX supportApr 01 15:36
DaemonFCI commented out the parts of the glue layer module where it tries to grab the BKLApr 01 15:37
DaemonFCand it builds now :)Apr 01 15:37
MinceRDaemonFC: but does it work?Apr 01 15:37
GoForbes28Steve Balmer will be calling it quits soon.Apr 01 15:37
MinceRGoForbes28: april fools?Apr 01 15:37
DaemonFCyupApr 01 15:38
GoForbes28crapApr 01 15:38
GoForbes28Well that was a trainwreckApr 01 15:38
GoForbes28See this one  http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html ?Apr 01 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] geek porn: a site called CPU Gone Wild, which is all badly made Flash designed to snafu your CPUApr 01 15:38
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DaemonFCMinceR, It still has the code to grab the BKL but nothing actually uses itApr 01 15:38
MinceRi'll watch it at homeApr 01 15:38
DaemonFCso the only thing it does cause is a build failure if you try to build it for a kernel with no BKLApr 01 15:38
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zDQX1p7_YApr 01 15:39
MinceRGoForbes28: for several years now my first thought on april 1 is "what fun stuff did they come up with this year?"Apr 01 15:39
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schestowitzGoForbes28: big news?Apr 01 15:39
GoForbes28uh roy,Apr 01 15:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, I used GCC-4.6 with DragonEgg to build the kernel I am using nowApr 01 15:39
GoForbes28did you not read the previous messages?Apr 01 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Application Manager preview http://ur1.ca/3q3tk "Soon we are are going to deliver the first alpha (at least a tech preview) too."Apr 01 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it could have "testimonials from previous CPUs" about "spending all their cycles on ram and useless Facebook games"Apr 01 15:40
schestowitzBallmer runs a train-wreckApr 01 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fabsh LOL! http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06607Apr 01 15:40
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schestowitzThere are some other companies that will stay longer than the trollsoftApr 01 15:40
DaemonFCBallmer is actually schestowitz I'm guessingApr 01 15:40
DaemonFCthe whole schestowitz being British thing is a cover upApr 01 15:41
GoForbes28ok, that worksApr 01 15:41
GoForbes28:)Apr 01 15:41
DaemonFCand he is a personality that awakens when Ballmer goes to bed for the nightApr 01 15:41
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 15:41
GoForbes28Schestowitz is Ballmer and behind the Wikileaks consipiracy with a front-end to a CIA/UN operationApr 01 15:41
schestowitzsssshhApr 01 15:42
DaemonFCschestowitz wakes up with a sore back and doesn't realize it's from jumping up and down screaming about developersApr 01 15:42
schestowitzBallmer is hereApr 01 15:42
schestowitzIt's what I call my plungerApr 01 15:42
GoForbes28steve jobs isn't really sick, he's just Roy and Roy no longer wants to take on the personaApr 01 15:42
DaemonFCso what do you call your auger?Apr 01 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian 6 - does it get the credit it deserves? Absolutely not! http://ur1.ca/3ouvv quiet heroismApr 01 15:43
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schestowitzGatesApr 01 15:43
GoForbes28where's the 1911 button on youtube?Apr 01 15:43
DaemonFCthe stock price of Apple is so inextricably linked to Steve Jobs that when he finally does die they're going to have to pickle him and put in animatronics Apr 01 15:43
schestowitzGates is screwing everyone, Ballmer does a lot of s***Apr 01 15:43
schestowitzGoForbes28: couldn't find it eitherApr 01 15:44
schestowitzBut I didn't go to the front pageApr 01 15:44
schestowitzI'm sub'd to about 100 peopleApr 01 15:44
GoForbes28http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm8ZCJ7Fx8Apr 01 15:44
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schestowitzI got asked again today, why don't I watch TV?Apr 01 15:44
DaemonFCthe big bet when you buy APPL is whether or not you can make some money on it before Jobs dies and the stock price collapsesApr 01 15:44
schestowitzWith 4000 pixels across I'd rather watch Internet TV that I choose to subscribe to, now "what's on TV" at some arbitrary timeApr 01 15:44
MinceR:>Apr 01 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan freelish.us? LOL! ;)Apr 01 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan You gone through some trouble there, mate. :DApr 01 15:45
DaemonFCno company can depend that much on one man and be a good investmentApr 01 15:45
schestowitzIt's funny that some TV channels resorts to youtube nowApr 01 15:45
schestowitzThe same goes for Virgin Trains, I found out last nightApr 01 15:45
schestowitzThat thing becomes somewhat of a status currency, which is sillyApr 01 15:45
schestowitzThere's this guy at my gym who bragged about me that he bought subscribersApr 01 15:45
DaemonFCI think if Red Hat is around long enough, their stock price will reach a plateau, but I also think that's a long ways offApr 01 15:46
schestowitzI knew some people do that, but not people who do thatApr 01 15:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: it was a lot higherApr 01 15:46
DaemonFCthere's still plenty of growth potential for Enterprise Linux, and little for MicrosoftApr 01 15:46
schestowitzRed Hat's stock price around Internet babble...Apr 01 15:46
schestowitz*bubbleApr 01 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Good man! :)Apr 01 15:46
DaemonFCmehApr 01 15:46
schestowitzgSun's tooApr 01 15:47
DaemonFCnot counting the bubble incident where everything was overvalued....Apr 01 15:47
DaemonFCRed Hat has been growing every yearApr 01 15:47
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 15:47
DaemonFCI don't think Oracle is such a good investmentApr 01 15:47
DaemonFCthey've been trying to continue what Sun started, which is a new coat of paint on legacy UNIXApr 01 15:48
DaemonFCand it's still not workingApr 01 15:48
schestowitzThey use Red HatApr 01 15:48
schestowitzAnd Red Hat doesn't quite let them overrideApr 01 15:48
GoForbes28any other April fools links?Apr 01 15:49
DaemonFCif they had been serious about making OpenSolaris truly open, they would have used the GPL or the BSD licenseApr 01 15:49
schestowitzOracle does not use much UNIXApr 01 15:49
schestowitzIIRC, about 80% of their wares are on rhelApr 01 15:49
GoForbes28The Internet has destroyed April Fool's dayApr 01 15:49
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DaemonFCthey picked CDDL specifically so Linux couldn't use their codeApr 01 15:49
Ender2070There is a computer underground running the show, powered by a quantum based cluster of savant brains linked together using quantum entanglementApr 01 15:49
schestowitzHey, jono :-)Apr 01 15:49
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schestowitzGoForbes28: trueApr 01 15:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, Oracle is trying to have it both waysApr 01 15:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: noApr 01 15:49
schestowitzThey created it this wayApr 01 15:49
schestowitzWhat's her name...Apr 01 15:50
schestowitzOSI ladyApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCdependng on which of their pages you're on, it's either Solaris is the most advanced OSApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCor Linux isApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCand they can't both be rightApr 01 15:50
jonohi schestowitzApr 01 15:50
schestowitz!google CDDL authorApr 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Common Development and Distribution License - Wikipedia, the free ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_LicenseApr 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - svn commit: r198843 - user/kmacy/releng_8_fcs_buf/sys/cddl/contrib ... | http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-user/2009-November/001761.htmlApr 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - CDDL+GPL License - — Java.net | http://jersey.java.net/CDDL%2BGPL.htmlApr 01 15:50
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cddl | http://wn.com/CDDLApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCthere's a few features in Solaris that are better than what's there in LinuxApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCbut overall the hardware support is not as goodApr 01 15:50
DaemonFCperformance is generally not as goodApr 01 15:51
schestowitzNot their faultApr 01 15:51
schestowitzIt's a critical mass thingie...Apr 01 15:51
schestowitzThey could do better if they opened Solaris in the 90sApr 01 15:51
schestowitzMaybe Linux would be impeded by thatApr 01 15:51
DaemonFCalmost all the Solaris marketing centers around ZFS and DTraceApr 01 15:51
DaemonFCbecause it's really all they have I thinkApr 01 15:51
schestowitzLooking Glass?Apr 01 15:51
schestowitzThey compiled it for Ubuntu back in the daysApr 01 15:52
DaemonFCyeah, where did that go? :)Apr 01 15:52
schestowitzThey also have Java\Apr 01 15:52
DaemonFCmehApr 01 15:52
schestowitzLooking GLass might to to some museumApr 01 15:52
schestowitzAnd Jon's demoApr 01 15:52
DaemonFCJava is really about as bad as .NET in a lot of waysApr 01 15:52
DaemonFCOracle is a patent troll that HAS sued over it alreadyApr 01 15:52
DaemonFCalmost nothing I've seen in Java performs that wellApr 01 15:53
DaemonFCI've also noticed that some things actually need Oracle's JavaApr 01 15:53
DaemonFCand won't work at all in the free software versionsApr 01 15:54
MinceRat least certain benchmarks perform really well with java :>Apr 01 15:54
DaemonFCso the free Java is a crippled subsetApr 01 15:54
DaemonFCin much the same way Mono isApr 01 15:54
MinceRhttp://shootout.alioth.debian.org/Apr 01 15:54
DaemonFCmaybe not as bad, but it's not fully compatibleApr 01 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Listening to "The BAcksliders from Dallas, Texas" while grading exams http://www.thebacksliders.com Ian Faith says every cut is a hitApr 01 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? The world needs a copier/printer that can take voice commands? Really? FAIL! http://i.imgur.com/Snn2b.pngApr 01 15:55
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Ender2070based on oracle i'd almost rather use .net over javaApr 01 15:55
DaemonFCI don't use anything built in either oneApr 01 15:55
MinceREnder2070: remember that .net is m$Apr 01 15:55
DaemonFCI play around with Banshee once in a whileApr 01 15:55
DaemonFC:PApr 01 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Who said Penguins have no game ? http://supergamer.org/Apr 01 15:56
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DaemonFCJava is just basically a pile of security flaws ready to be plugged into your web browserApr 01 15:57
DaemonFCso you can....play Runescape?Apr 01 15:57
DaemonFCwhat does a desktop user need that shit for?Apr 01 15:57
MinceRwhat's Trash then?Apr 01 15:57
MinceRor Silver Lie?Apr 01 15:57
GoForbes28I need Java to play Cat Mario!!!Apr 01 15:57
GoForbes28 ;) Apr 01 15:57
DaemonFCTrash = Youtube, porn, Hulu, tons of other stuffApr 01 15:57
DaemonFCJava is basically uselessApr 01 15:57
DaemonFCthe only people installing Silverlight are the ones who get it as a trojan piggybacking on Windows Live MessengerApr 01 15:58
Ender2070mincer - mono is free softwareApr 01 15:58
MinceRand the winblows users some web sites foist Silver Lie onApr 01 15:59
GoForbes28mono is patented free softwareApr 01 15:59
MinceREnder2070: troll somewhere elseApr 01 15:59
GoForbes28ala a contradictionApr 01 15:59
DaemonFCMono is free software that violates patentsApr 01 15:59
DaemonFCnormally that wouldn't necessarily make me avoid itApr 01 15:59
DaemonFCbut they are MS patentsApr 01 15:59
DaemonFCand MS is threatening people with themApr 01 15:59
GoForbes28and it is shouded by scandalApr 01 16:00
DaemonFCSilverlight and the Bong Bar are trojans by definitionApr 01 16:00
DaemonFCor at least foistwareApr 01 16:00
Ender2070mincer - not trolling, just being consistentApr 01 16:01
DaemonFCI don't want this, I don't need this, how the hell did it get there? = Foistware/TrojanApr 01 16:01
DaemonFCtypicall Windows experienceApr 01 16:01
GoForbes28yepApr 01 16:01
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GoForbes28so daemonfc, why isn't the debian kernel ideal for laptop use?Apr 01 16:02
DaemonFCit injects a lot of Windows security flaws into Firefox and ChromeApr 01 16:02
GoForbes28I don't get itApr 01 16:02
DaemonFCon top of the ones they inherit from running on WindowsApr 01 16:02
MinceRdon't forget the ones m$ forces into those browsers on winblowsApr 01 16:02
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Because it's not very optimized for desktop systems in generalApr 01 16:03
GoForbes28yepApr 01 16:03
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DaemonFCI'm pretty aggressive with low latency settings in my kernelsApr 01 16:03
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:03
GoForbes28DaemonFC: what is a better kernel for Debian then?Apr 01 16:03
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DaemonFCNo_HZ = pointlessApr 01 16:03
MinceR<DaemonFC> the ubuntu kernel!Apr 01 16:03
DaemonFClots of latency so your system uses 1-2 less wattsApr 01 16:03
MinceRhow much latency and where?Apr 01 16:04
DaemonFCI notice basically identical powertop readings with or without itApr 01 16:04
DaemonFCbut with it, things like Pulseaudio become glitchyApr 01 16:04
DaemonFCI always kill it and set HZ=1000Apr 01 16:04
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:05
MinceRhow do you know it isn't PA's fault? ...and could avoid it by not running PA?Apr 01 16:05
DaemonFCMy kernel haws HZ=1000 no dynamic ticks supportApr 01 16:05
DaemonFCfull preemption Apr 01 16:05
DaemonFCaggressive ac97 power saving and Intel HDA power saving also cause issuesApr 01 16:06
DaemonFCso I disable themApr 01 16:06
DaemonFCbasically it causes them to sleep at inappropriate intervals and it causes audio glitching Apr 01 16:07
DaemonFCof course the hardware is buggy and that doesn't helpApr 01 16:07
DaemonFCbut why provoke it?Apr 01 16:07
DaemonFCI notice the same problems with Windows and there's no way to make it stop there :)Apr 01 16:08
DaemonFCso I'm not just bitching about Linux, because I can fix it in LinuxApr 01 16:08
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DaemonFCWindows has power management settings that should fix the problem but don'tApr 01 16:08
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:08
DaemonFCthe only way to get around it in Windows is to bypass the audio mixer and use kernel streamingApr 01 16:09
DaemonFCwhich requires the application to actually be aware of itApr 01 16:09
DaemonFCwhich most are notApr 01 16:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/53831118033657856Apr 01 16:10
schestowitzThanking Microsoft for anything makes no senseApr 01 16:10
schestowitzThis is a company that as a company is very maliciousApr 01 16:10
DaemonFCMinceR, the Glitch Free mode in Pulseaudio is to be thanked reallyApr 01 16:10
DaemonFCit flushed out a lot of sound card driver bugs and forced the kernel developers to fix their driversApr 01 16:10
MinceRicApr 01 16:10
DaemonFCever since like 2.6.29, this has been less and less of an issueApr 01 16:11
DaemonFCand most Linux audio drivers are all the better for it nowApr 01 16:11
MinceRschestowitz: well, he's right in a way: there are other ways to advertise vista7 besides the way(s?) he has already tried, so they are not the same thing:>Apr 01 16:12
schestowitztessier_: the server is down ATMApr 01 16:12
DaemonFCthe bugs were there either way but they were more hidden until Pulseaudio provoked themApr 01 16:12
MinceRs/\(..\)$/ \1/Apr 01 16:12
MinceRit _is_ a way of advertising vista7 thoughApr 01 16:13
MinceReven if he doesn't understand this despite allegedly being a PR guyApr 01 16:13
schestowitzIt isApr 01 16:13
DaemonFCcrappy sound drivers were my running Linux bitchlist item until the 2.6.3x seriesApr 01 16:13
MinceRperhaps the issue is that so far everyone who told him this were members of the "peanut gallery" (i.e. not shuttlecock)Apr 01 16:13
DaemonFClately I've been more and more comfortable recommending Linux as a desktop systemApr 01 16:14
DaemonFCespecially on systems with integrated GPUs which never used to work rightApr 01 16:14
DaemonFCand now most of them work better with free drivers than with binary onesApr 01 16:14
GoForbes28Schestowitz: That was a bit perplexingApr 01 16:14
MinceRi hear nvidia is working hard to make their nonfree driver work worseApr 01 16:15
DaemonFCMinceR, According to my experience, the integrated Radeon 3450 is about 20% faster with radeon than fglrxApr 01 16:15
DaemonFCand fewer bugsApr 01 16:15
DaemonFCthat's a popular chipset tooApr 01 16:15
MinceRthere was optimus, and recently i've heard on irc that the driver turned off power management, causing a certain card being tested blowing up (no URL though)Apr 01 16:16
MinceRDaemonFC: how old and weak is it?Apr 01 16:16
DaemonFCpretty weak, better than most Intel stuffApr 01 16:16
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:16
MinceRicApr 01 16:16
GoForbes28http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2011/03/31/steve-ballmer-linux-still-like-cancer-after-all-these-years/Apr 01 16:16
DaemonFCabout 3 times faster than my Core 2 Quad system with GMA 3100Apr 01 16:17
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:17
GoForbes28Please tell me this is an April Fool's jokeApr 01 16:17
GoForbes28At a celebratory dinner for the top 5 Linux developers, Linus Torvalds declared that the kernel would soon be changing to the BSD license, and away from GLPLv2, so that many developers could do more with the already developed code.Apr 01 16:17
DaemonFCbut it's the worlds tallest midget competitionApr 01 16:17
MinceRGoForbes28: it's off by a dayApr 01 16:17
MinceRthe linux bsdl story is april fools though, afaikApr 01 16:17
GoForbes28Thank goodnessApr 01 16:17
GoForbes28still no v3 thoughApr 01 16:17
MinceRindeedApr 01 16:17
DaemonFCnobody expects an integrated GPU to perform well, but if you're stuck with one, use the best driver at leastApr 01 16:18
MinceRor even a serious attempt to start migration to v3, afaikApr 01 16:18
schestowitzOh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61WjEd0y6zMApr 01 16:19
DaemonFCMinceR, I've decided that you're best off using the free Radeon stack if you have a RadeonHD 3000 series or lowerApr 01 16:19
DaemonFCand/or less than 3 cores on your CPUApr 01 16:19
DaemonFCotherwise, FGLRXApr 01 16:19
MinceRwhat's with the CPU core constraint?Apr 01 16:20
DaemonFCFGLRX is only multithreaded with more than 2 coresApr 01 16:20
DaemonFCso with 1-2 cores, that's not an issue vs the free driverApr 01 16:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:20
MinceRis the free driver multithreaded?Apr 01 16:21
DaemonFCnoApr 01 16:21
DaemonFCbut neither is FGLRX with 1 or 2 coresApr 01 16:21
DaemonFCsee what I'm saying is, with less than 3 cores, neither of them areApr 01 16:21
DaemonFCso neither has that advantageApr 01 16:21
MinceRso does this mean that the free driver beats FGLRX every way even on newer radeon GPUs if you have 1 or 2 CPU cores?Apr 01 16:21
MinceRs/way/time/Apr 01 16:21
DaemonFCno, but it's a major cause of Radeon getting beaten so badly on systems with 3 or more cores and a decent Radeon cardApr 01 16:22
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:22
DaemonFCit still might lose, but we're talking inches instead of milesApr 01 16:23
DaemonFCat this point it's not worth dealing with FGLRX if performance only goes up 20-30% instead of 300%Apr 01 16:23
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 16:23
DaemonFCthat's what I meanApr 01 16:23
DaemonFCand the free driver has other benefitsApr 01 16:24
DaemonFCKMS for oneApr 01 16:24
DaemonFCit's got EXA support tooApr 01 16:24
DaemonFCFGLRX doesn'tApr 01 16:24
DaemonFCATI2d is not as good as EXAApr 01 16:24
DaemonFCso we're talking, free driver in that case is better in all areas but 3d acceleration, where it's a little slowerApr 01 16:25
DaemonFCbesides, RadeonHD 3000 series really only supports OpenGL 2.1 in hardwareApr 01 16:25
DaemonFCand Gallium3d supports, OpenGL 2.1Apr 01 16:25
DaemonFCso it's not like the card can do all sorts of useful things that Gallium can'tApr 01 16:26
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxgames.com/archives/16654Apr 01 16:29
schestowitztessier_: ?Apr 01 16:30
Ender2070go > java/c#Apr 01 16:34
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schestowitzGo has been around for ages, but like many google products it seems to be ignoredApr 01 16:42
DaemonFChehApr 01 16:44
DaemonFCGoogle has a development model which basically excludes external inputApr 01 16:45
DaemonFCChromium is free software, but only Google really controls what happens to itApr 01 16:45
DaemonFChttp://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.htmlApr 01 16:48
MinceRif go is like google earth and crashium then it deserves to be ignored :>Apr 01 16:52
MinceRbesides, it can't even do OOPApr 01 16:52
Ender2070that's because your a moronApr 01 16:54
Ender2070to answer your earlier question yes I can compile chromiumApr 01 16:55
Ender2070debian probably has libraries too old for that to work properly I bet that's why you fail at itApr 01 16:56
Diablo-D3huh?Apr 01 16:57
Diablo-D3chromium compiles on debian fineApr 01 16:57
Diablo-D3I did it like 2 years agoApr 01 16:57
Diablo-D3[11:20:53] <MinceR> is the free driver multithreaded?Apr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3[11:21:35] <MinceR> so does this mean that the free driver beats FGLRX every way even on newer radeon GPUs if you have 1 or 2 CPU cores?Apr 01 16:58
Ender2070was talking to mincerApr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3MinceR: doesnt matterApr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3opengl isnt multithreadedApr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3and the hardware interface also isntApr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3the only place you can get a speed boost in threading is inside the hardware's own instruction issuerApr 01 16:58
schestowitznisshh: : why is "MinceR" a "moron"?Apr 01 16:58
Diablo-D3of which, radeons are massively hardware threaded.Apr 01 16:58
schestowitzor DaemonFC?Apr 01 16:59
Diablo-D3no data processing should be done in software for most obvious reasons.Apr 01 16:59
Diablo-D3dont think you're smarter than mesa devs, MinceR Apr 01 16:59
Ender207011:58 < schestowitz> nisshh: : why is "MinceR" a "moron"?Apr 01 16:59
Ender2070why isn't heApr 01 16:59
DaemonFCChromium is a nightmare to buildApr 01 17:01
schestowitzjono: Balancing Freedom and Functionality: A Design Challenge http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/03/28/balancing-freedom-and-functionality-a-design-challenge/Apr 01 17:02
schestowitzit's possible to have bothApr 01 17:02
schestowitzSo false division, like liberty and securityApr 01 17:02
schestowitzThere's not really a "striking of balance"Apr 01 17:02
DaemonFCThey figure their users are too stupid to check a boxApr 01 17:02
DaemonFCso they have to check it for themApr 01 17:02
DaemonFChence, the "bug"Apr 01 17:03
DaemonFC"Our users are retarded and furthermore, they can't read"Apr 01 17:03
DaemonFC"Let's help them install nonfree software and not tell them why they should care one way or the other"Apr 01 17:03
Ender2070ubuntu,opensuse,gentoo and others have no issues including chromiumApr 01 17:04
DaemonFCFedora doesApr 01 17:04
DaemonFCthey don't like carrying around forked codeApr 01 17:04
Ender2070they dont like bundled librariesApr 01 17:05
DaemonFCespecially when it's forked for no reason and only is there to support one programApr 01 17:05
DaemonFCbloated, difficult to supportApr 01 17:06
DaemonFCshouldn't be encouraged?Apr 01 17:06
Ender2070upstream supports itApr 01 17:06
DaemonFCjono, Your 32-bit Trash player is brokenApr 01 17:07
DaemonFCever try actually USING it on the 64-bit distribution?Apr 01 17:07
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:07
DaemonFCyou would break my experience with that piece of crapApr 01 17:08
DaemonFCnot just because I'd have to remove the billion places you install or symlink it to, after removing the packageApr 01 17:08
DaemonFChehApr 01 17:08
DaemonFCit's basically unusableApr 01 17:08
DaemonFCnspluginwrapper is a jokeApr 01 17:08
DaemonFCit enabled Adobe to not provide any real X86-64 support and tell users to go use nspluginwrapper, which is a hackApr 01 17:09
Ender2070I use 64-bit trash playerApr 01 17:10
Ender2070it existsApr 01 17:10
DaemonFCand while we're at it, why do you have a  Kubuntu Firefox installer that installs broken extensions into Firefox that makes things like the save dialog not work?Apr 01 17:10
DaemonFCthere's the broken user experience Apr 01 17:10
DaemonFCyeah, I'm talking about what Ubuntu doesApr 01 17:10
DaemonFCnot what you have to do yourself because they ship broken shitApr 01 17:10
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:10
Ender2070Jono, why doesn't kubuntu train people to use their computer? /cc DaemonFCApr 01 17:11
DaemonFCis searching kpackagekit for Firefox an exercise in elitism?Apr 01 17:11
DaemonFCis choosing what I want stuffed into it alongside of it elitism?Apr 01 17:11
DaemonFCI doubt itApr 01 17:11
Ender2070if you can't figure it out go back to windowsApr 01 17:12
DaemonFCtheir firefox-kde-support package actually breaks Firefox instead of extending it to work with KDEApr 01 17:12
Ender2070techrights isn't an ubuntu support channelApr 01 17:12
DaemonFCand their Ubufox extension is spammy garbage that hijacks your home page and breaks session restoreApr 01 17:12
Ender2070firefox-kde-support attempts to fix firefoxApr 01 17:13
DaemonFCno, I'm bagging on jono for that bonehead stupid usability postApr 01 17:13
DaemonFCthe shit Ubuntu automatically does tends to make it work worseApr 01 17:13
DaemonFCnot better :)Apr 01 17:13
DaemonFCfoisting their broken bullshit on the user is not helping anyoneApr 01 17:13
Ender2070afaik they are using the opensuse patchApr 01 17:13
Ender2070worked fine for me when I tried it outApr 01 17:14
DaemonFCright click an imageApr 01 17:14
DaemonFCSave AsApr 01 17:14
DaemonFCnote that NOTHING comes upApr 01 17:14
DaemonFCremove firefox-kde-support, restart Firefox, right click on an imageApr 01 17:15
Ender2070you can link me ur bug report instead of asking me to reproduceApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCSave AsApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCsave dialog appearsApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCfuck emApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCthey don't fix anythingApr 01 17:15
Ender2070stop being an idiot and file a bug reportApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCit's not worth filing bugs on Ubuntu because they are just ignoredApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCbecause nobody working on Ubuntu is usually qualified to fix itApr 01 17:15
Ender2070the whole point of kubuntu is the kde desktopApr 01 17:15
DaemonFCthey go and report their bugs to FedoraApr 01 17:16
DaemonFChttp://airlied.livejournal.com/72817.htmlApr 01 17:17
DaemonFCFedora's bugzilla is apparently where Ubuntu "developers" go when they get hit with a bug they don't understandApr 01 17:20
DaemonFCof course, these are the same Ubuntu developers (Canonical) that want you to buy a cheap support contract from them so they can resell you work that Red Hat doesApr 01 17:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 17:21
DaemonFCplease fix this for us, FOR FREE, so we can give it to our paying customers that we sniped from youApr 01 17:21
DaemonFCkthxbaiApr 01 17:21
DaemonFCI don't get what the $300 a year per seat support contract is for when you're buying it from a leech that can't fix the problems your organization comes acrossApr 01 17:22
DaemonFCif you're going to buy support, get it from Red Hat, they know what they're doingApr 01 17:23
DaemonFCDistributions are probably not that hard to put together (especially if you just clone Debian), MEPIS is pretty much all done up by one guyApr 01 17:24
DaemonFCCanonical is so inwardly focused that the only real work they do only benefits themApr 01 17:24
tessier_schestowitz: Still working on it. Might be back up in a few minutes, might be more extended. Seems to be another hardware problem with this thing. I'm in the process of setting up a new hardware architecture so these occasional downtimes won't happen much longer. Sorry.Apr 01 17:24
DaemonFCso they're paying people to make funky scrollbars, niceApr 01 17:25
DaemonFCgot a kernel bug? they can't help youApr 01 17:25
DaemonFCI'm not real sure I'd want to use Unity just because they made itApr 01 17:25
Ender2070even unity isn't completely themApr 01 17:27
DaemonFCof course notApr 01 17:28
DaemonFCtheir toolkit, not themApr 01 17:28
DaemonFCtheir window manager (Compiz), not themApr 01 17:29
DaemonFCall the software included on the desktop aside from some self-promoting Ubuntu One crap, not themApr 01 17:29
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DaemonFCsauerbraten really seems to have taken a dive with this new fglrxApr 01 17:45
DaemonFC:PApr 01 17:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm really liking DragonEggApr 01 17:48
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 17:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz, PT&T, We Want You BackApr 01 18:41
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 18:41
ZiomatrixMS filed for Chapter 11!? :-oApr 01 18:42
DaemonFCyepApr 01 18:42
DaemonFCand Ballmer is out front hawking the office furnitureApr 01 18:42
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 18:42
Ziomatrixand his yacht too?Apr 01 18:42
DaemonFC:PApr 01 18:42
DaemonFCuggghApr 01 18:43
Ziomatrixor did his yacht capsize after putting all those unused Windows Vista and Office 2k10 copies to bring to Asia for clearance?Apr 01 18:43
DaemonFCI don't want to go grocery shopping :PApr 01 18:43
DaemonFCI hate hauling groceries up the stairsApr 01 18:43
DaemonFC:PApr 01 18:43
Ziomatrixlol, the necessity of chores  Apr 01 18:44
DaemonFCbut I have to eat, so I'll bblApr 01 18:44
Ziomatrixk nice chatting with ya :-)Apr 01 18:44
DaemonFChave to find my bagsApr 01 18:44
DaemonFCALDI is like something out of a former Soviet Bloc countryApr 01 18:44
DaemonFCbut their prices aren't badApr 01 18:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 18:45
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Ziomatrixlol, I always thought their entrance of boxes is like some erector set take on the Brandenburg gate  Apr 01 18:46
MinceRwhy does Ender2070 get away with trolling?Apr 01 18:52
Ender2070trolling = having a different opinionApr 01 18:52
MinceRwrongApr 01 18:52
MinceRtrolling = attempting to disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through provocative messagesApr 01 18:54
MinceRsuch as your blog post which you've deleted alreadyApr 01 18:54
MinceRand bringing up old monomaniac talking pointsApr 01 18:54
MinceRDiablo-D3: read your buffer. it's not me who thinks he's smarter than mesa devs.Apr 01 18:55
MinceRDiablo-D3: and if you're ignoring the person who is, don't blame me for your ignorance.Apr 01 18:55
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Ender2070mincer - My article must have been correct if it pissed you off that muchApr 01 19:35
MinceRyou must have realized something was wrong with it if you removed itApr 01 19:36
Ender2070it needs rewritingApr 01 19:36
MinceRwasn't inflammatory enough?Apr 01 19:36
Ender2070there still is an extremist fsf cultApr 01 19:36
MinceRand there you go trolling againApr 01 19:37
MinceRboring.Apr 01 19:37
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Ender2070pointing out factsApr 01 19:37
Ender2070every group has extremistsApr 01 19:37
MinceRyou haven't pointed any facts out so farApr 01 19:37
MinceRonly calling names and trollingApr 01 19:37
Ender2070I'll be in the records as first person to troll someone on irc by posting on his own personal blogApr 01 19:38
MinceRthat was not your only instance of trollingApr 01 19:39
MinceRnot even closeApr 01 19:39
gnufreexMinceR: What Ender1983 did now? Chasing communists? Apr 01 19:47
MinceRthe usualApr 01 19:47
MinceRtrying to stir up old crap to create dramaApr 01 19:47
MinceRthis time it started with mono apologismApr 01 19:48
gnufreexHe has to do it, else that ACCESS troll will publish his personal thing that he don't want published.Apr 01 19:49
MinceRwe don't have to listen to it thoughApr 01 19:50
gnufreexI know.Apr 01 19:50
MinceRtheoretically it would be possible to ban him from hereApr 01 19:50
MinceRhe can spam his blog with whatever wrongie wants him to sayApr 01 19:50
MinceRalso, the typical troll attitude "if it pisses you off, it must be right" is presentApr 01 19:54
gnufreexMinceR: So then it comes to "who pisses off who more, is right". Pissing contest. Best avoided, me thinks. schestowitz should ban him.  Apr 01 20:06
MinceRit's basically the idea of trollingApr 01 20:06
MinceRdoesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thing that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:07
gnufreexYeah I knowApr 01 20:07
gnufreexBut funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 20:07
MinceRi find it sadApr 01 20:07
gnufreexYeah, that tooApr 01 20:08
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624  you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux words that he utters Apr 01 20:21
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 20:21
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 20:21
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gnufreex"Fact"Apr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If your #F15 stops booting, try putting selinux=0 at the end of your kernel line in GRUB. Worked for me. Just #FYI. !FedoraApr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does it offer more features than just using shareaholic, @gamerchick02Apr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @fabsh People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yeah I'd go along with that. It's obviously true (and that's the only stuff I posting today) re: http://ur1.ca/3q4r5Apr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hahahahahahahah http://ur1.ca/3q4r8Apr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @fabsh People who do not understand that an "app store" is just a package manager + nasty DRM and some marketing puzzle me... OoApr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Questions For Ryan Gordon, The Linux Game Porter: Tomorrow at Chicago's Flourish conference, Ryan Gordon will be... http://bit.ly/fcq7uhApr 01 20:23
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gnufreexDoes he have evidence that Google paid something? schestowitz Apr 01 20:23
gnufreexHe calls it "fact"Apr 01 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I hope this does better than google buzz! http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.htmlApr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Foundation announces the Linux.com Linux Gurus for 2011 http://ur1.ca/3q4ri #linuxApr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm reading there are more aftershocks in Japan :(Apr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It is a great song @kevie, @mariannes Which version tho? Fullers Clash and Dead Ks are all goodApr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's Not Just the Downloads - #Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up http://ur1.ca/3q4sx excellent, they deserve itApr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz It's Not Just the Downloads - #Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up http://ur1.ca/3q4sx excellent, they deserve itApr 01 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Techloid #gizmodo continues attacking #Android with the talking points that originate from #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3q4tp familiar FUD.Apr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Capturing SIGCSE conversation: Computer science professors discuss teaching open source (Opensource.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/436563/rssApr 01 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder how big a chunk of the browser market Microsoft will lose when Biz finally ditches IE6Apr 01 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Foundation announces the Linux.com Linux Gurus for 2011 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.98 KBApr 01 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more: It's Not Just the Downloads - Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up .::. Size~: 47.61 KBApr 01 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more: It's Not Just the Downloads - Firefox 4 Usage Rockets Up .::. Size~: 47.61 KBApr 01 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android May Be The Greatest Legal Destruction Of Wealth In History | Gizmodo Australia .::. Size~: 70.32 KBApr 01 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Capturing SIGCSE conversation: Computer science professors discuss teaching open source (Opensource.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.96 KBApr 01 20:24
schestowitzgnufreex: I call him OnionApr 01 20:25
schestowitzIs Android FUD a forebearer of Linux-like success?Apr 01 20:25
schestowitzgnufreex: I call him Onionhttp://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/03/30/is-android-fud-a-forebearer-of-linux-like-success/Apr 01 20:25
schestowitzhttp://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2011/03/30/is-android-fud-a-forebearer-of-linux-like-success/Apr 01 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » Is Android FUD a forebearer of Linux-like success? .::. Size~: 43 KBApr 01 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » Is Android FUD a forebearer of Linux-like success? .::. Size~: 43 KBApr 01 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] On the plus side they may not have enough users left to notice by thenApr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Wikipedia’s April Fools: For April Fool’s Day, Wikipedia editors have collected such a wonderful set of links an... http://wmk.me/eWhdJMApr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @quaid Mmm, very tasty one-page release notes for @beefymiracle: http://beefymiracle.org/download/beefy-miracle-release-notes.pdfApr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zenwalk Linux 7.0 http://ur1.ca/3q4vh "In summary, I am pretty impressed with Zenwalk Linux 7.0. It looks good and it works well..."Apr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pregnant Women Need Support, Not Prison - http://bit.ly/fZkjXY not a joke, alas #civilisationApr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My thoughts about #Fedora 15 http://www.doom.co.il/en/?p=17 "In short, it is awesome."Apr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making plans to go to the David Rovics gig in Cologne.Apr 01 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @blondinrikard Humor: http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=613614 Top price comparison. Via @HAXApr 01 20:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pregnant Women Need Support, Not Prison - Bei Bei Shuai Charged With Murder and Attempted Feticide » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 35.1 KBApr 01 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My thoughts about Fedora 15 | Elad's boring blog .::. Size~: 29.85 KBApr 01 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Call of Duty: Black Ops - PC-spel - Hitta lägsta pris, omdömen och information .::. Size~: 106.02 KBApr 01 20:26
MinceRreligious people like to use the word "fact" without knowing or caring what it actually meansApr 01 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #YouTube's Reply In #Viacom Case Demolishes Each Of Viacom's Key Argument - http://bit.ly/hIy2Pr useful summary #dmcaApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sohaib Abbasi Joins Red Hat’s Board of Directors, Company Welcomes Back Dr. Steve Albrecht http://ur1.ca/3q571 #redhatApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] back home and into nice clean clothes after a nice hot "welcome home" bath. need to prep blog text for early week.Apr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] They have the W3C XFactor. Our Music Award for 2011 is out. You're welcome! http://ping.fm/U9lZL #aprilfoolsApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @x1101 @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @vvillenave There's hope for the next version of #Windows: #Microsoft buys !ReactOS http://ur1.ca/3q4zq !free !gnu !libreApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @blondinrikard Regeringen står upp för principer mot EU: http://ur1.ca/3q570 Var man ej tvungen att följa EU? Bara när man gillar det ...Apr 01 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube's Reply In Viacom Case Demolishes Each Of Viacom's Key Arguments | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.84 KBApr 01 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x1101: @snapl Fox News:Where everyday is April 1stApr 01 20:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sohaib Abbasi Joins Red Hat’s Board of Directors, Company Welcomes Back Dr. Steve Albrecht | Business Wire .::. Size~: 72.83 KBApr 01 20:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Buys Open Source ReactOS For $12.3 Billion | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 30.15 KBApr 01 20:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Regeringen försvarar ideell verksamhet efter momsgränsavslag från EU-kommissionen .::. Size~: 46.75 KBApr 01 20:28
tessier_Yeay. Everything is back up.Apr 01 20:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, I guess you know why I refer to the phone company as AT&TApr 01 20:28
DaemonFCI mean, as PT&TApr 01 20:28
DaemonFC;)Apr 01 20:28
MinceR:DApr 01 20:28
MinceRso, why "P"?Apr 01 20:28
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DaemonFCPeople's Telephone and Telegraph Apr 01 20:29
MinceR:>Apr 01 20:29
tessier_Sorry for the lengthy downtime, was just about to become unavoidably indisposed for a couple of hours when it happened then had to drive over to the datacenter to actually fix it.Apr 01 20:29
DaemonFCas in state sanctioned monopolyApr 01 20:29
DaemonFCwith crappy serviceApr 01 20:29
DaemonFCand no competitorsApr 01 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] PC Linux OS discontinued http://www.pclinuxos.com/ !linuxApr 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Introducing Canterbury GNU/Linux http://www.gentoo.org/ !cbproject !linux !gentooApr 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Is it me or does #Chromium's address bar search bookmarks ONLY by title and NOT by address? Typing address forces search engine feature.Apr 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] because "breaking it" is just one step closer to "fixing it"Apr 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ml2mst PC Linux OS discontinued http://www.pclinuxos.com/ !linuxApr 01 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 status and so on http://ur1.ca/3q5f2 "One thing I’ve found is that I’m liking GNOME 3 more and more recently. "Apr 01 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 52 million downloads on 2011-04-01 16:57 UTCApr 01 20:29
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DaemonFCMinceR loves GNOME 3Apr 01 20:30
DaemonFCbecause it is made of easyApr 01 20:30
DaemonFCand MinceR  loves MP4 filesApr 01 20:30
gnufreexUh.. I mised it. DaemonFC: Why PT&T ?Apr 01 20:30
DaemonFCand advertising them loudlyApr 01 20:30
MinceRDaemonFC loves running vista7 on his macApr 01 20:30
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> People's Telephone and Telegraph  <DaemonFC> as in state sanctioned monopoly <DaemonFC> with crappy service <DaemonFC> and no competitorsApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP in #Google Summer of Code 2011 http://ur1.ca/3q5fz #gnu #graphicsApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @mossgarden "It's the butler! It's the butler! The butler did it! I always wanted to say that!" - mr. janeApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Geek Of The Week: Máirín Duffy http://geektrio.net/?p=6946 responsible for the good redesign of #fedora Web siteApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Menu Button inside Window Decorations http://ur1.ca/3ox9g nice direction as optionApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 16 naming vote delay http://ur1.ca/3q5kn names can wait...Apr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RMS now has his own perfume thanks to Lush. #truestory http://ur1.ca/3q5kuApr 01 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RMS now has his own perfume thanks to Lush. #truestory http://ur1.ca/3q5kxApr 01 20:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek Of The Week: Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 82.41 KBApr 01 20:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Menu Button inside Window Decorations «  Martin’s Blog .::. Size~: 34.87 KBApr 01 20:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 16 naming vote delay « The Ramblings .::. Size~: 26.63 KBApr 01 20:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110401T171321-g52smm9.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.46 KBApr 01 20:31
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DaemonFCMinceR, actually, Windows no longer actually needs Boot Camp to emulate a BIOSApr 01 20:31
DaemonFCit's now mainly just partitioning for moronsApr 01 20:31
DaemonFCand it stuffs in a few drivers that their users are too stupid to installApr 01 20:32
DaemonFCApple's EFI doesn't follow the EFI standard thoughApr 01 20:32
MinceRit's ok, they pulled the "boot camp bricks your mac" trick ages agoApr 01 20:32
DaemonFCand can cause problems with WindowsApr 01 20:32
MinceRit will be something new next timeApr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @jrick: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5508110/why-is-this-program-erroneously-rejected-by-three-c-compilersApr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Villa: MPL Beta 2- as FAQ http://lwn.net/Articles/436584/rssApr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fixed ISO images for #Debian 6.0.1 released http://ur1.ca/3p633Apr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My Wish For Singapore (aka my manifesto-in-making): http://wp.me/pj2fj-ouApr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Marek Files Patches For Floating-Point In Mesa Master: Forget about the fun being had today on April Fools' Day ... http://bit.ly/hXMTZDApr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Obama basically said nuclear energy is safe b/c it "doesn't emit CO₂". Smoking doesn't cause AIDS, but that doesn't make smoking safe.Apr 01 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat targeting UK growth in 'non-traditional sectors' http://ur1.ca/3q5q1 #redhat #uk #linux #gnuApr 01 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: visual c++ - Why is this program erroneously rejected by three C++ compilers? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 134.88 KBApr 01 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Villa: MPL Beta 2- as FAQ [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.53 KBApr 01 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian -- News -- Fixed ISO images for Debian 6.0.1 released .::. Size~: 8.84 KBApr 01 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Wish For Singapore (aka my manifesto-in-making) « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 25.76 KBApr 01 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Marek Files Patches For Floating-Point In Mesa Master .::. Size~: 19.95 KBApr 01 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat targeting UK growth in 'non-traditional sectors' - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 91.07 KBApr 01 20:33
DaemonFCMinceR, You can boot Linux on EFI, but internally it represents it as an e820 biosApr 01 20:33
DaemonFCI'm not sure that the user has any reason to care thoughApr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.39 RC1 debuts new block device plugging model http://ur1.ca/3q5um "Both Fedora 15 and Ubuntu 11.04 [...] Linux 2.6.38 kernel"Apr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/436561/rssApr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #KDE Polishes Linux but Leaves a Few Little Streaks http://ur1.ca/3q5vf "The latest KDE version is well worth moving from its GNOME..."Apr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 vs. #Ubuntu 11.04: The Battle for #Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/3q5wy "both offer the new-to-Linux user two high quality choices."Apr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Installing the Canterbury distro :-)Apr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Bookmarklet - Identi.ca" http://ur1.ca/36b3 Bookmarklet for new bookmarks #bookmarklet #identica #bookmark #pluginApr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 5 Preview Available Now http://ur1.ca/3q5yn yes, five. "It turns out that Mozilla was not kidding."Apr 01 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Government unveils IT strategy, with open source at the fore http://ur1.ca/3q600 let's hope they mean it this time. #ukApr 01 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux 2.6.39 RC1 debuts new block device plugging model  - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 115.07 KBApr 01 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Friday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.25 KBApr 01 20:34
MinceRthe user ended up with shoddy hardware anywayApr 01 20:34
DaemonFCthe new block device model was what was causing the XFS problems I encounteredApr 01 20:35
DaemonFCbut they claim to have fixed it nowApr 01 20:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 15 vs. Ubuntu 11.04: The Battle for Linux Desktop Supremacy | TechSource .::. Size~: 94.94 KBApr 01 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bookmarklet - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.34 KBApr 01 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 5 Preview Available Now .::. Size~: 128.32 KBApr 01 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government unveils IT strategy, with open source at the fore - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 90.03 KBApr 01 20:35
DaemonFCDoes Firefox 5 pass ACID 3 or use my GPU in any meaningful way?Apr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Creative Commons mix for Japan Relief feat Hiiragi Fukuda, BinauralDiaries, monome community: http://bit.ly/hZ2nQR via @freemusicarchivApr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! http://bit.ly/gISWVHApr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla !Firefox Signage [img] http://ping.fm/fMRSmApr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You see a lot of headlines saying something isn't happening these days, like "Novell isn't worrying about the Redhat code changes"Apr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I keep wondering, is that really news?Apr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.17 Does Vista File Dialogs: Two weeks have passed since the Wine 1.3.16 development release that integr... http://bit.ly/foMIUHApr 01 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] \FOSS Development Is My Full-Time Job: Patricia Santana Cruz http://ur1.ca/3q6a5Apr 01 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Music Archive: Creative Commons Mix for Japan Relief by Jane at CC .::. Size~: 22.25 KBApr 01 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.41 KBApr 01 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brilliant. «  Luis Villa .::. Size~: 20.54 KBApr 01 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Wine 1.3.17 Does Vista File Dialogs .::. Size~: 17.29 KBApr 01 20:36
DaemonFCand does it actually start KTorrent and not spit out "The protocol isn't registered"?Apr 01 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Development Is My Full-Time Job: Patricia Santana Cruz | Muktware .::. Size~: 37.19 KBApr 01 20:36
DaemonFCit's funny how Opera at least manages to integrate with GNOME and KDE and it's not even free softwareApr 01 20:37
DaemonFCand after 7 years, Firefox still does not integrate into KDE without some really awful hacksApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great eclectic compilation of numbers station-inspired music by @PublicSpacesLab: http://bit.ly/epe0wq (via @cdmblogs)Apr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DailySport now in administration http://is.gd/pxj0bU the word "newspaper" feels as natural in this context as "news" is to #FoxNewsApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to BAP - Halv Su Wild, just bought the albumApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] heard the COO of this #webuyanycar on #5live earlier about this http://is.gd/WTuNTv I'd trust #DelBoyTrotter more than him and his companyApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] kept trying to use "2yrs ago" despite being reminded Jul09 / Jul10 - Jul 10 is 9mths ago, even Jul09 isn't 2yrs ago, never once appologisedApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when 96% of your customers fall into the gap, it smells of a con, the OFT finally found and acted on, despite their #PR offensive to spin itApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The Ideal Delicious Alternative? Status.net Launches Freelish.us! http://rww.to/dS3Uwi Yay! Go @evan go! /via @marshallkApr 01 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Music from Numbers: An Eclectic, Free (CC) Compilation of Numbers Station-Inspired Tracks .::. Size~: 50.88 KBApr 01 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux and #ARM Power New 10-Inch Netbooks http://ur1.ca/3q6ib "run the open source operating system."Apr 01 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Daily Sport and Sunday Sport owner in administration .::. Size~: 54.88 KBApr 01 20:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Webuyanycar.com offers just one in 25 the price quoted online | Money | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 245.94 KBApr 01 20:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Ideal Delicious Alternative? Status.net Launches Freelish.us! .::. Size~: 52.58 KBApr 01 20:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux and ARM Power New 10-Inch Netbooks - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 87.59 KBApr 01 20:38
DaemonFCMinceR, The problem with the Ubuntu KDE Firefox integration plug-in is they didn't update it for Firefox 4Apr 01 20:38
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thing that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:38
DaemonFCand so it actually ends up breaking Firefox worse than it already isApr 01 20:38
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 20:38
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:38
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 20:38
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 20:38
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 20:38
Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 20:38
MinceRthere probably are a couple extensions that also weren't updatedApr 01 20:38
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MinceRdoesn't mean it will never get doneApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:20 < TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 38.58 KBApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 20:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 20:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 20:39
MinceREnder2070: ever heard of pastebin?Apr 01 20:39
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 20:39
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 20:39
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Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thing that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:39
Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 20:39
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:39
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 20:39
DaemonFCMinceR, How come Opera doesn't need any user intervention to just work with KDE?Apr 01 20:39
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Android FUD a forebearer of #Linux-like success? http://ur1.ca/3q6js nicely putApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Indonesia: Citibank debt collectors arrested in death of client over credit card http://ur1.ca/3q6l2Apr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Join the discussion on #OER innovations & impact! http://get-i.org/6019uClR How can CC help in dev tools & edu documentation? via @GETideasApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic http://ur1.ca/3q6lu then the Exxon-funded FUD evaporatedApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic http://ur1.ca/3q6lu then the Exxon-funded FUD evaporatedApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Creepy’ app threatens the privacy of social network users http://ur1.ca/3q6m6 many applications are like that these daysApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Do Not Track offers a method for users to protect their #privacy without having to turn off advertisements entirely. https://eff.org/r.27TApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is andyc with 94 dents!Apr 01 20:39
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Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 20:39
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MinceRcrapfloodingApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 20:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 20:39
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 20:39
MinceRthat's really lowApr 01 20:39
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 20:39
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 20:39
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 20:40
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Ender207015:06 < MinceR> doesn't matter if what they write is factual, the only thingApr 01 20:40
Ender2070                that matters is to piss off as many people as possible.Apr 01 20:40
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> Yeah I knowApr 01 20:40
Ender207015:07 < gnufreex> But funny how assless troll made a puppet trollApr 01 20:40
Ender207015:07 < MinceR> i find it sadApr 01 20:40
Ender207015:08 < gnufreex> Yeah, that tooApr 01 20:40
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gnufreexEnder2070: Why are you spamming? Apr 01 20:40
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Ender207015:21 < schestowitz> http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843719044075520 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/53843942927642624Apr 01 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was written by a leading Silicon Valley VC whose fund invest in Red Hat early on, MySQL, eBay, recently Twitter.Apr 01 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: The article fails to consider the (regrettable) fact that due to patent licensing costs Android is far from free.Apr 01 20:40
MinceRgnufreex: he ran out of argumentsApr 01 20:40
MinceReven old onesApr 01 20:40
Ender2070                     you're just repeating Steve Ballmer's anti-Linux wordsApr 01 20:40
Ender2070                     that he uttersApr 01 20:40
Ender207015:21 < TechrightsBot-tr> @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That article was writtenApr 01 20:40
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Ender2070Mincer - you're the trollApr 01 20:40
Ender2070Mincer - got any evidence that i'm working for Lefty?Apr 01 20:40
Ender207014:54 < MinceR> also, the typical troll attitude "if it pisses you off, it must be right" is presentApr 01 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK: Researchers say open source lowers costs, increases security http://ur1.ca/3ps04 #freesw #ukApr 01 20:41
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MinceREnder2070: ask the others, i've heard it from themApr 01 20:41
Ender2070im not spammingApr 01 20:41
MinceRright, you're crapfloodingApr 01 20:41
Ender2070im just wondering why when I change my opinion on mono, it makes me a troll spammerApr 01 20:41
DaemonFCMinceR, He's just recirculating the facts as he sees themApr 01 20:41
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 20:41
MinceRyou've pasted your screen contents at least 3 timesApr 01 20:42
gnufreexEnder2070 If you are not working for troll, then you have bigger problems. You need to get your head examined. Apr 01 20:42
MinceRhe needs to get his head examined anywayApr 01 20:42
DaemonFCby a state-sanctioned psychiatrist who will prescribe some aspartameApr 01 20:42
DaemonFCB-)Apr 01 20:42
MinceRDaemonFC: they use aspartame for this now?Apr 01 20:42
DaemonFChe's one of the aspartame kills conspiracy theoristsApr 01 20:43
Ender2070gnufreex - folie a deuxApr 01 20:43
Ender2070you guys are feeding yourselves with insanityApr 01 20:44
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTI4MQApr 01 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PCLinuxOS homepage http://www.pclinuxos.com/Apr 01 20:44
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MinceREnder2070: the mono apologist bullshit you've started parroting has been disproven ages agoApr 01 20:44
DaemonFC"hypothetical Linux disaster"Apr 01 20:44
MinceRfind something newApr 01 20:44
DaemonFChere's a real one, the video drivers barely workApr 01 20:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 01 20:44
MinceREnder2070: also, if you think this is "insanity", you can leaveApr 01 20:44
DaemonFCand it's like a few lines in a patch to fix most of thatApr 01 20:45
MinceREnder2070: nobody here insists on talking to you, afaikApr 01 20:45
DaemonFCand they won't apply it I'm sureApr 01 20:45
DaemonFCif they allowed floating point textures, that alone would solve a great deal of the incompatibility issuesApr 01 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the new BAP album. Niedecken is totally rocking! :)Apr 01 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just trying out Sonata. A very nice MPD frontend for Gnome.Apr 01 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good video interview with Assange on Underground, WikiLeaks, revolutions http://is.gd/O25Df8Apr 01 20:46
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DaemonFCMinceR, Source code itself is not infringing iircApr 01 20:46
DaemonFCWhy not make a configure switch and let the user decide?Apr 01 20:46
MinceRDaemonFC: the source code of what?Apr 01 20:47
DaemonFCI don't get why they argue that everyone has to have a broken OpenGL stack just because Fedora can't legally flip that switchApr 01 20:47
DaemonFCMesaApr 01 20:47
DaemonFCfloating2 branchApr 01 20:47
MinceRand what's the issue?Apr 01 20:47
DaemonFCthey won't merge itApr 01 20:47
MinceRsomeone holds patents on floating point textures?Apr 01 20:47
DaemonFCso a lot of apps are just broken, the endApr 01 20:47
DaemonFCapparentlyApr 01 20:47
MinceRwell, if it's possible, they should pull a decss on thatApr 01 20:48
MinceR(that is, keep it optional, keep it separate, serve it from a country that has no sw patents)Apr 01 20:48
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gnufreex<Ender2070> im just wondering why when I change my opinion on mono, it makes me a troll spammerApr 01 20:48
gnufreexYou first got attacked and defamed by a troll on his site(allong with other IRC regulars) and he said he'll leak your data if you don't change your opinion. He even harrased you with Fedora Amdasaodors, you told me so. Now you are chatting with troll on twitter and protecting his talking points. Apr 01 20:48
schestowitztessier_: thanks so much for handling the problem!! :-) I'm gratefulApr 01 20:48
MinceR(and of course don't build essential functionality on it)Apr 01 20:48
DaemonFCMinceR, Too lateApr 01 20:48
DaemonFCa lot of third party applications need it to work alreadyApr 01 20:49
gnufreexEnder2070: That happend all by chance.. yeah, right.Apr 01 20:49
Ender2070gnufreex - really, he said that?Apr 01 20:49
Ender2070where?Apr 01 20:49
MinceRwell, then all of those applications run the risk of being blocked by a patent infringement case in many countriesApr 01 20:49
Ender2070everything has patent riskApr 01 20:50
Ender2070even your foodApr 01 20:50
Ender2070(monsanto)Apr 01 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ClimateChange Impacts on National Security: Admiral David Titley http://ur1.ca/3q6qmApr 01 20:51
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MinceRi can easily switch to food that has no such patent riskApr 01 20:51
gnufreex<Ender2070> everything has patent riskApr 01 20:51
gnufreexGoing by the side of the road you are in risk to get hit by a carApr 01 20:51
MinceRif almost all of your desktop depends on mono and m$ starts suing, can you afford to switch?Apr 01 20:51
Ender2070what cpu are u running mincer?Apr 01 20:51
gnufreexSo why not walk on the midle of the roeadApr 01 20:51
gnufreex?Apr 01 20:51
MinceRwhat if it's been developed for 10 years and you don't have much to go back to?Apr 01 20:51
Ender2070i bet theres patents on all sorts of things you're runningApr 01 20:51
MinceREnder2070: i've paid for my cpu, they can't sue me for thatApr 01 20:52
gnufreexMono is middle of the highway. Ender2070Apr 01 20:52
gnufreexBigger riskApr 01 20:52
gnufreex100000xApr 01 20:52
gnufreexbiggerApr 01 20:52
MinceRmono is designed to slot into a place where it can do the most damageApr 01 20:52
MinceRmaybe it could do even more damage if they could somehow wedge it into the kernelApr 01 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama, why do you insist on fucking over what the majority of Americans want? We, collectively, are your boss http://ur1.ca/3q6qnApr 01 20:52
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schestowitzThe klernel hardly accepts non-C codeApr 01 20:53
schestowitzNo imminent risk of mono thereApr 01 20:53
Ender2070then why dont we make more apps with monoApr 01 20:53
Ender2070make them sue usApr 01 20:53
Ender2070get this over withApr 01 20:53
gnufreexEnder2070: Did you see De Icaza's statements recently... boosting WP7 and being happy that Nokia drops MeeGo?Apr 01 20:53
MinceRbecause we don't want to waste our time on developing such crap if we already know it would mean walking into a trap?Apr 01 20:53
gnufreexYou trust that kind of person.Apr 01 20:53
gnufreexif you use monoApr 01 20:53
schestowitzyupApr 01 20:54
Ender2070well directhex is a windows user pretending to be an ubuntu packagerApr 01 20:54
MinceRwho knows, maybe Ender2070 loves kin7 tooApr 01 20:54
schestowitzSweaty Steve trusts himApr 01 20:54
MinceRafter all, it's built on his favorite monoApr 01 20:54
MinceRoops, .netApr 01 20:54
MinceRbut basically the same thingApr 01 20:54
schestowitzEnder2070: he uses Windows??Apr 01 20:54
MinceRm$ java :>Apr 01 20:54
gnufreex<Ender2070> well directhex is a windows user pretending to be an ubuntu packagerApr 01 20:54
gnufreexReally?Apr 01 20:54
gnufreexClosed Windows user, or full time?Apr 01 20:55
MinceRwouldn't surprise me at all, though i haven't heard of him making packagesApr 01 20:55
schestowitzgnufreex: you mean "closet"?Apr 01 20:55
gnufreexYeahApr 01 20:55
gnufreexTypoApr 01 20:55
Ender2070follow his twitter, always boosting windowsApr 01 20:57
Ender2070dont get me wrongApr 01 20:57
Ender2070im pro open source and anti windowsApr 01 20:57
Ender2070i just stopped caring about mono, they play by the rules, its ms that doesntApr 01 20:57
MinceRwhat rules do they play by?Apr 01 20:58
MinceRseriously, whom does m$'s act fool?Apr 01 20:58
MinceRthe monomaniacs' argument of mono being safe is so full of holes it isn't even funnyApr 01 20:58
gnufreex<Ender2070> follow his twitter, always boosting windowsApr 01 20:58
gnufreexExactly my point, he is textbook MS fanboy and if MS screws us all he will be fine and just get a job at Microsoft. Apr 01 20:58
MinceRm$ refused to make a statement about all patents .net/mono relies onApr 01 20:58
MinceRthey refused to provide a patent licenseApr 01 20:59
MinceRthey keep insinuating that they will sueApr 01 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On a bit of a rock binge. Now watching !Bruce live in Barca.Apr 01 20:59
MinceRthey maintain an attitude that isn't only hostile to free software, but also to any existing or potential competitors, including small sw businessesApr 01 20:59
MinceRthey have a long history of abusing everything they can to suppress competitionApr 01 21:00
MinceReven just the fact that m$ controls where the languages, the vm and the APIs go is a weapon in their handsApr 01 21:00
MinceRand some people grab that weapon and put it in their own mouthsApr 01 21:00
MinceRgnufreex: actually, he may believe he will get a job at m$, but it's far from guaranteedApr 01 21:01
MinceRgnufreex: especially if he's living in a place where IT pro salaries are higher than, say, in indiaApr 01 21:01
gnufreexEnder2070: Tell me one reason why De Icaza won't help Microsfot interest? He loves everything they do, and he intends to help them. So if that means screwing over FOSS badly, he will do it. Everything for job at MS.  Apr 01 21:01
Ender2070the only company that can do anything is MicrosoftApr 01 21:02
MinceRif m$ screws us all, the entire IT industry might fall in m$'s handsApr 01 21:02
MinceRthat means less jobsApr 01 21:02
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gnufreex<Ender2070> the only company that can do anything is MicrosoftApr 01 21:03
gnufreexhow's that? Apr 01 21:03
gnufreexI thnk they are only that can't do anything properly. Apr 01 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 'Creepy’ app. Hehe, was it written by the "Hadron Quark" Microsoft Astroturfer?Apr 01 21:04
schestowitzOnly in America(C): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3b8thKULpoApr 01 21:05
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Ender2070ughApr 01 21:05
Ender2070I mean in regards to the patent situationApr 01 21:05
Ender2070they own the patents its their gameApr 01 21:05
Ender2070it really dont bother me if people cant use their mono apps, but im not going to scream and flail my arms at peopleApr 01 21:06
MinceRwell, actually oracle also has a patent suite in the same businessApr 01 21:06
Ender2070i dont use them myselfApr 01 21:06
gnufreexEnder2070: I still don't understand. They can sell patents to a troll. Apr 01 21:06
schestowitzThey doApr 01 21:06
MinceRbut everyone outside those two companies is in dangerApr 01 21:06
schestowitzNot just canApr 01 21:06
Ender2070when I use something that has mono ill careApr 01 21:06
schestowitz!google zemlin microsoft auction patentsApr 01 21:06
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MinceREnder2070: until then you'll just come here and tell us "mono is free software" even though it's not, implying that it's safe to useApr 01 21:07
Ender2070first of all im a KDE user, nobody uses C# thereApr 01 21:07
MinceRwhile you know bloody well that it is notApr 01 21:07
Ender2070mono IS free softwareApr 01 21:07
MinceRand you know that people will tell you that you're wrongApr 01 21:07
Ender2070what license is it underApr 01 21:07
MinceRread the FSD, and think that overApr 01 21:07
schestowitzNoTuch?Apr 01 21:07
schestowitzAnd NoDroid?Apr 01 21:07
schestowitzMono is more like open coreApr 01 21:07
schestowitzAnd it's patents-riddledApr 01 21:08
Ender2070if mono is under a free software license I don't care about external issuesApr 01 21:08
Ender2070firefox is trademark-riddledApr 01 21:08
schestowitzIt's Microsoft's "my first c#/VS" present for Linux usersApr 01 21:08
Ender2070people use itApr 01 21:08
MinceRFSD is not the OSD, it's not about copyright licensesApr 01 21:08
MinceRit's about whether you have those freedoms or notApr 01 21:08
gnufreexEnder2070: That is stupid, you can strip Firefox trademark. You can't strip out patents.Apr 01 21:08
MinceRwhich does not only depend on copyright licensesApr 01 21:08
Ender2070ill boycott mono for patents when people boycott firefox for trademarksApr 01 21:09
MinceRthen go boycott firefox for trademarksApr 01 21:09
Ender2070I already doApr 01 21:09
MinceRyou could use GNU IceCat or IceweaselApr 01 21:09
Ender2070I use a better browserApr 01 21:09
Ender2070no xulrunner bullshitApr 01 21:09
MinceRyou use crashium?Apr 01 21:09
Ender2070chromium, even konquererApr 01 21:09
Ender2070arora, rekonq, etcApr 01 21:10
gnufreex<Ender2070> if mono is under a free software license I don't care about external issuesApr 01 21:10
gnufreexSo if someone decompiles Windows and post source code on net under GPL, you will claim it is Free Software? Apr 01 21:10
Ender2070anything without xulrunnerApr 01 21:10
gnufreexThat is called WarezApr 01 21:10
MinceRcue the old "my browser is better than yours due to subjective values and preferences, therefore i rule and you suck"Apr 01 21:10
gnufreexMono is WarezApr 01 21:10
MinceRcan we skip this whole crap already?Apr 01 21:10
Ender2070gnufreex - well if mono actually has reverse engineered windows code in it, its illegal not just a patent riskApr 01 21:10
MinceRi think we had meaningful discussion before Ender2070 started trolling in here.Apr 01 21:10
Ender2070mincer, thats the arguement you're usingApr 01 21:11
MinceRis it?Apr 01 21:11
Ender2070'my firefox is better than yours because of my free software values, google spies on people, therefor I rule and you're a troll'Apr 01 21:11
MinceRcitation neededApr 01 21:12
gnufreexEnder2070: It is written using Microsoft proprietary docs. The publicly available part is nothing, De Icaza has stuff that he got from Microsoft directly. Apr 01 21:12
Ender2070look up paraphrase - websters.comApr 01 21:12
MinceRyou're putting words in my mouth, plain and simpleApr 01 21:12
MinceR(another old trolling tactic)Apr 01 21:12
Ender2070gnufreex - .NET is a java rip off, i bet you its all java patents anywayApr 01 21:12
MinceRseriously, are you going to try the entire "linsux" playbook on us today?Apr 01 21:13
gnufreexEnde2070: Patents don't work that wayApr 01 21:13
Ender2070I see the room is chock full of patent lawyersApr 01 21:13
MinceRstarting with you, yesApr 01 21:13