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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity Gwibber Lens (Place) For Ubuntu 11.04 http://bit.ly/e39cDYApr 02 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] News About OpenSUSE 11.4, Possibly the Last #OpenSUSE Release http://ur1.ca/3qfus #novell #suseApr 02 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] News About OpenSUSE 11.4, Possibly the Last !OpenSUSE Release http://ur1.ca/3qfus #gnu #linux #ballnuxApr 02 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Leeching More, Creating Less http://ur1.ca/3qg34 #sco #redhat #libreofficeApr 02 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell Leeching More, Creating Less http://ur1.ca/3qg34 #novl #rht #openoffice #scoxApr 02 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm in the #Guardian; the Ipad qualifies for computing section and an !android tablet is in the gadgets section.Apr 02 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] at the Hungarian !Ubuntu Global Jam, Budapest...Apr 02 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Osborne! - http://bit.ly/fssv0r splendid piece on the man & his unforgettable CP/M portable (I remember it well...) #computing #historyApr 02 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Discussions About #Scarcity vs. #Abundance In Copyright From A Century Ago Sound Just Like Those Today - http://bit.ly/dRK5c0 extraordinaryApr 02 01:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Upgrade To Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal (With Or Without An Internet Connection) http://bit.ly/fSRihCApr 02 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Verjess Babylon en dat midde Durm, ejal waddet koss, noch bin ich de Boss...." LOLApr 02 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @snugris: wifi is indeed everywhere in Tokyo, Thx to #FON. I can even use my devices at my car dealer working on the presentation deck..Apr 02 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] CP: DOWN by Spamtron on DPAD [Amarok2].Apr 02 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] So.... Tempe has CRAP and TBAG for bicyclist movements. Wow, guys, really?Apr 02 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: The real boss http://goo.gl/IKA5KApr 02 03:46
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schestowitztessier: the connection is now persistent and good for IRC :-) can you mail over the irc logs for the 3 channels logged since last month? I need to post logs for transparency.Apr 02 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity Gwibber Lens (Place) For !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/11yzxApr 02 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: How To Upgrade To !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal (With Or Without An Internet Connection) http://goo.gl/r25mQApr 02 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Why are we investing in a closed encryption system again? #rsa Why are we letting shit like http://ur1.ca/3qkzl happeN?Apr 02 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! http://goo.gl/WPEiKApr 02 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Five neat changes in today’s !Unity update http://goo.gl/aJE9KApr 02 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Elementary pre-order update & exclusive peek at disc artwork http://goo.gl/J9jUtApr 02 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: #Gmail Motion - The Future of Email is Here! http://goo.gl/XlejaApr 02 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design blog: #Narwhal spotted at Lambeth Bridge http://goo.gl/Y38Zx !ubuntuApr 02 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Manish Sinha: !Android Camp Bangalore http://goo.gl/YAIEeApr 02 04:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nice write up http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=110329%2FCricketApr 02 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sergio Zanchetta: !Ubuntu #Natty Beta 1 is out. It’s time to test your Laptop! http://goo.gl/TU5foApr 02 04:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Didier Roche: Message from !GNOME release team well received http://goo.gl/6GF97Apr 02 04:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Major regression in !Unity: No fish! http://goo.gl/0ILdr !ubuntuApr 02 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jason Smith: Death to critical !Unity bugs http://goo.gl/iGb15Apr 02 04:16
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MinceRgeekingsApr 02 04:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Malcolm Turnbull on WikiLeaks http://is.gd/jPw1WWApr 02 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 54 million downloads on 2011-04-02 12:32 UTCApr 02 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Focusing On The Copy Part Of #Copyright Doesn't Make Much Sense In Today's World - http://bit.ly/gjiFEf it's about authenticityApr 02 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Pinguy OS 11.04 Alpha 1 Is Available For Testing http://bit.ly/fxRkoVApr 02 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Marketing End-game http://goo.gl/owicrApr 02 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #GoDaddy CEO: Elephants are "a valuable source of protein" - http://bit.ly/e0t7TB "Well, by that logic, so are CEOs." ha!Apr 02 05:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Looking at freelicio.us - looks good, but no link-blog facility so I'm still stuck using delicious.Apr 02 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Another Look At The Open-Source Nouveau With Fermi: Earlier this week was benchmarks of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 4... http://bit.ly/fSJR9yApr 02 06:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] C'mon you reds !!! win the game now !UnitedApr 02 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Tilting the playing field: http://wp.me/pj2fj-oEApr 02 06:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Get in !!! Don't concede now !mufcApr 02 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] What fucking what fucking what to all you ABU wankers. 4 goals in 15 mins. One love One !UnitedApr 02 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden 4-2 !United. Fucking brilliant team performance.Apr 02 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Enjoying the sun and 25°C. Just fixed up the bicycles for the summer...Apr 02 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "We'll never die we'll never die we'll keep the red flag flying high cos ManUtd will never die" sings the !United away endApr 02 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @eebrah @RebelAlliancePR: GF does great #DarthVader impression. though, I don't recall him saying "Please... give me back... my inhaler"Apr 02 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know how well !Ubuntu Natty works with !Dropbox - on account of having different Nautilus?Apr 02 06:56
twitterHere's a funny .NET fail.  http://www.todaysbigthing.com/music/2009/11/03Apr 02 06:56
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twitterno, that's the wrong linkApr 02 06:57
twitterhmmmApr 02 06:57
twitterhttp://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2011-02.html#e2011-02-19T13_00_54.txtApr 02 06:57
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twitterthat's the right linkApr 02 06:57
twitterif you want to see the music video, you have to Google it and find it on YouTube.  Apr 02 06:58
twitterThe .NET fail is more entertaining.Apr 02 06:58
twitterThe ISP Fairpoint Communications made the mistake of using .NET and C pound pound your head for billing services.Apr 02 06:59
twitterScreenshots and a summary of conversations with support staff are included.  The RSS is easier to read than the blog, but I'm not sure how to link to individual RSS items.Apr 02 07:00
lightpriestI once tried to book a flight with and got a tomcat traceApr 02 07:02
twitterHere's what the blogger has to say, " I just got a letter from Fairpoint Communications that my payment didn't go through for insufficient funds.  Thankfully, I had written down a tech support number that actually works the last time I had problems with them.  When I got the tech on the phone, he said that their billing system has been having a lot of problems lately and that I could pay over the phone on Monday.  I asked him why I couldn'Apr 02 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Where are the famous indian cricket fans now ? Support your team you glory hunting twatsApr 02 07:03
schestowitzc pound pound?Apr 02 07:03
schestowitzc hash?Apr 02 07:04
twitterC## can be read as C pound pound in US EnglishApr 02 07:04
schestowitzwhy two hashes?Apr 02 07:05
twitterAt least one start up reports that putting .NET on a resume is more damaging than nothingApr 02 07:05
schestowitzand also, could the system have failed due to bad programming?Apr 02 07:05
twitterthe two pounds is just me making fun of C sharpApr 02 07:05
lightpriestschestowitz: it mostly does, but have you tried figuring out something out of MSDN?Apr 02 07:06
schestowitzIt's pronounced like spitApr 02 07:06
schestowitzC shar*spit*Apr 02 07:06
MinceRlightpriest: i haveApr 02 07:06
twitterThe system might very well have failed due to bad programming, but the code is six years old and it's more likely that some kind of .NET "upgrade" brought it down.Apr 02 07:06
lightpriestI once had to look up something, it's all one big messApr 02 07:06
MinceRso i know what passes for "documentation" in m$ landApr 02 07:06
schestowitzclick or failApr 02 07:07
schestowitzI remember from win98Apr 02 07:07
twitterif the problem was self inflicted, Fairpoint could have fixed it by nowApr 02 07:07
schestowitzI wasted days just trying to pass files across PCs (to Linux) cause Windows would not "see" it and you just had to retry for hours until 'magically' it would appearApr 02 07:08
schestowitzNo command-line, no status codes, nothing... just stupid GUI that failsApr 02 07:08
schestowitztwitter: fixing Microsoft?!Apr 02 07:08
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 07:08
schestowitzI'd rather see it breakApr 02 07:08
twitterWell, the ISP would obviously be collecting the money owed it instead of fooling around with a broken billing systemApr 02 07:09
twittergood luck to them porting the information out so that they can start charging their users again with a more reasonable billing systemApr 02 07:10
schestowitzLike what?Apr 02 07:15
twitterI'm don't know about billing systems but there has got to be a better way than asking Microsoft, perhaps they can give IBM or Red Hat a call.Apr 02 07:20
twitterBig dumb company insistence on using Microsoft for customer facing systems baffles me.  Apr 02 07:22
twitterBill Gates and other Microsoft people have a lot of money to throw around to make that happen, but few other investors can be thrilled by Microsoft use.Apr 02 07:24
twitterThen again, Microsoft is such a commonly owned pyramid scheme stock.  I wonder if people's fear that their investment might be worthless drives them to spend all sorts of money on software that does not work well.Apr 02 07:28
twitterRichard Stallman points out that North Carolina is propping up the infotainment conglomerate cable companies by making it difficult to set up muni networks.Apr 02 07:29
twitterfrom his political notes -> "North Carolina has halfway approved a law to prohibit cities from setting up nonprofit ISPs to improve Internet access. Apr 02 07:30
twitter By voting for this, the North Carolina assembly has demonstrated that it is an organ of the corporate empire, not a legitimate government."Apr 02 07:30
twitterhe points to http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/30/north-carolina-bill-would-prohibit-cities-from-upgrading-internet-access/Apr 02 07:30
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twitterBell South and Cox tied up Lafayette, Louisiana with lawsuits for years when they tried to build a muni network.Apr 02 07:31
twitterA person with an impressive CV thinks that OSX package management is terrible and OSX is a very bad platform for web development.  http://teddziuba.com/2011/03/osx-unsuitable-web-development.htmlApr 02 07:34
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twitterthe reasons are purely technical but they are all a result of OSX not being free softwareApr 02 07:35
oiaohmtwitter: Lot of MacOS X issues are the same as using freebsd as well.Apr 02 07:35
oiaohmSo it is not just that OS X is not free software.Apr 02 07:36
oiaohmIts that it lacks market share in Web.Apr 02 07:36
twitterthe author notes that, but bsd at least has reasonable package managementApr 02 07:36
twitterthe bigger issue, for him, is that most web servers are gnu/linux so you need things like fink to do development for it on OSX.  Apr 02 07:37
twitterOSX's lack of freedom makes reasonable package management impossible, even if the your web server is OSX.Apr 02 07:38
oiaohmHosting costs.Apr 02 07:38
oiaohmJust like finding BSD hosting.Apr 02 07:38
oiaohmMost cases BSD hosting is more than Linux.Apr 02 07:38
twitterI can always count on ohm to defend non free software by distraction Apr 02 07:39
oiaohmNo twitter.Apr 02 07:39
twitterargue with the authro http://teddziuba.com/vitae.htmlApr 02 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Fuckall wankhede crowd. All pissing in their pants and fucking dropping their heads once a couple of players get out.Apr 02 07:39
oiaohmReally this is a case that Linux has basically won one battle.Apr 02 07:40
oiaohmAnd as Linux wins more issues caused by not using it will get higher.Apr 02 07:40
twitterI wonder why? har har.Apr 02 07:40
oiaohmYou forget darwin from Apple early on.  Open source low cost and basically died from lack of developers.Apr 02 07:41
oiaohmThat is why your arguement that open source is the linked issue is kinda dead.Apr 02 07:41
twittermost developers prefer copy left, it's good for business Apr 02 07:41
oiaohmNow that is getting to a better agruement.Apr 02 07:42
twitterthis is why most software is published as gplApr 02 07:42
oiaohmMore likely to be more valid.Apr 02 07:42
oiaohmtwitter: I just pull you up when you have missed something in your assessment.Apr 02 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 459 tser : Routine wing-scouting mission gets... odd http://bit.ly/fYg7Oa #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitApr 02 07:43
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twitteryou nit pick to discredit, ohm.  I don't have all day to please you.Apr 02 07:43
oiaohmBSD Darwin and OS X all have 1 thing in common.  There licence does not protect developer from being back stabed.Apr 02 07:43
twitterpeople can see what you do.Apr 02 07:43
oiaohmYou call it nit picking.  Issue here is minor errors lead to completely the wrong assessments.  twitterApr 02 07:44
schestowitzDo what?Apr 02 07:44
schestowitztwitter: he's fine, he's just not one-sidedApr 02 07:44
schestowitzhe also has accurate assessments a lot of the timeApr 02 07:45
twitteraccurate but distracting, it irritates Apr 02 07:45
twitteranother irritant http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/03/30/35363.htmApr 02 07:46
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oiaohmYou lack of accuracy irritates me at times too.  TechrightsBot-trApr 02 07:46
oiaohmOpps twitterApr 02 07:46
twitterwhat did I say that was wrong, ohm?Apr 02 07:47
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oiaohmThe idea that the problem was just coming from not being free software.   Why OS X is doing so bad for web development.Apr 02 07:48
oiaohmWindows does better at web development compared to OS X.  Market share is a factor.   Quality of solution is also a major factor.Apr 02 07:48
oiaohmHow bad OS X is handling on web development is what I hope happens to Windows in time in other areas as Linux market share grows.  twitterApr 02 07:50
twitterwindows boosting, ohm?  more distraction.  If OSX were free software it would look like gnu/linux.  It's not an issue of popularity, it's an issue of freedom.Apr 02 07:50
oiaohmProblem is for a time its server darwin was free software.  twitterApr 02 07:51
oiaohmDid not change its fate one bit.Apr 02 07:51
oiaohmSmall market share limited hardware support so it was basically dead on arrival.Apr 02 07:52
twitterdarwin, obviously had owners that locked the community out, why blame freedom for it's failure other than to distract?Apr 02 07:52
oiaohmNo hardware makers never got interested in darwin.Apr 02 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lady Gaga goes gaga over !Ubuntu - LXer « Kind of strange story but still http://ping.fm/vFzLYApr 02 07:53
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twitterhardware maker interest is not what made gnu/linux what it is.  vendor interest and cooperation is helpful but Linux grew up withtout them and still overcomes even the most hostile of them.Apr 02 07:53
twitterfreedom and copyleft made Linux and gnu/linuxApr 02 07:54
oiaohmLinux did grow because of a hardware need.Apr 02 07:54
twitterlack of it is undoing other OSApr 02 07:54
oiaohmfreedom and copyleft of Linux put it in exactly the right place as super computer become more common.   Along with the .net boomApr 02 07:55
twittermore pollution news http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1828&category=EnvironmentApr 02 07:55
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twitter300 of Gulf Shores' 2,500 people are sick because of the BP drilling disaster Apr 02 07:56
oiaohmLinux allows a lot of hardware makers into the super game that were locked out of it or having there features pinched from bsd sources and placed in there competitions.  twitterApr 02 07:56
oiaohmLinux is one of those OS's that was just in the right place at the right time with the right license.Apr 02 07:57
oiaohmTrying to displace it now by anyone would be a very up hill battle.Apr 02 07:57
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oiaohmWe all of course wish MS was never in the right place with dos and something else open source was.Apr 02 07:58
oiaohmtwitter: Its very simple to forget how many years head start BSD had on Linux yet was making quite min market pentration and hardware support.Apr 02 07:59
oiaohmThe what if BSD had Like a GPL license is quite a interesting one.  twitterApr 02 08:00
MinceRtwitter: GNU/Linux lacks most of not all of the design flaws that define OSuXApr 02 08:01
MinceRs/of/if/Apr 02 08:01
oiaohmAlso something lot of people are not aware of.  Particular parts Linux kernel uses.  Due to patent licenses must remain under GPLv2 or latter.Apr 02 08:03
oiaohmReason why you don't find IBM's RCU that is used in AIX and Linux in OS X or Windows.Apr 02 08:03
oiaohmYes GPL has been more acceptable to hardware makers than BSD has been.Apr 02 08:04
MinceRthat's sadApr 02 08:05
MinceRwhat's RCU?Apr 02 08:05
twitterit would be very nice to see the Linux kernel move to gpl3Apr 02 08:06
oiaohmRead Copy Update.   Its a way of syncing data between many cores/threads without taking massive performance hits waiting in spin locks.Apr 02 08:06
twitterthat would stop a lot of nonsense Apr 02 08:06
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MinceRindeed it wouldApr 02 08:08
oiaohmUnlikely patent section of GPLv3 not really required.  Linux kernel does have huge patent pools already.Apr 02 08:08
MinceRbut if what oiaohm says is true then it won't be possible for a whileApr 02 08:08
MinceRoiaohm: yet m$ goes suing linux-using hw companies.Apr 02 08:08
MinceRand no countersuit is in sight.Apr 02 08:08
twitterUS efforts at Alaskan oil drilling are laughably insane.  This article pretends an investment in Coast Guard ice breakers would make everything safe there as if ice or lack of Coast Guard is why Deepwater Horizon spewed like it did.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ig_Sox25wAcsxe6kAUZDBQW2rkCQ?docId=CNG.30a945d880fb0c467a82e584423dac3f.21Apr 02 08:08
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MinceRso those patent pools aren't helping much, are they?Apr 02 08:08
oiaohmMinceR: watch what they are sueing on.Apr 02 08:09
twitterpatent pools are harmfulApr 02 08:09
twitterthe solution is to eliminate patentsApr 02 08:09
oiaohmMinceR: MS basically never attacks the Linux kernel itself.Apr 02 08:09
oiaohmMinceR:  and a lot of libraries above that.Apr 02 08:09
twittersomeone big sold out to a big patent troll the other day ... PJ spotted it.Apr 02 08:09
oiaohmMinceR: since that would basically be death wish.Apr 02 08:09
twitterhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2038989/rim-hands-patents#ixzz1IJ6OlRRIApr 02 08:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rim gets its hands on 30,000 patents- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 58.65 KBApr 02 08:11
twitterRIM paid off ntellectual VenturesApr 02 08:11
twitterThe Inquirer has a funny way of reporting extortion as a positive thing.Apr 02 08:11
MinceRtwitter: the elimination of patents is nowhere in sightApr 02 08:12
MinceRtwitter: free software needs to survival till that happens, somehowApr 02 08:12
twitterfrom the Inquirer -> " This means RIM can get its mitts on technology without fear of patent lawsuits and thus avoid legal complications with other hardware makers."Apr 02 08:12
twitterhow disgustingApr 02 08:12
twitterpatent troll as protectorApr 02 08:13
oiaohmLOL Intellectual Ventures does not have key ones.Apr 02 08:13
twitterno one has key patents, they just have lawyers, money and threats Apr 02 08:13
oiaohmA few companies do.Apr 02 08:14
twitterthe patents themselves are all empty because software patents are emptyApr 02 08:14
twitterthere's no more merit to Amazon's one click patent than there is to the old "fat line" patents. Apr 02 08:14
oiaohmArm, Motorola and IBM.  All are sitting on key patents to RIM on going existance.Apr 02 08:14
twittername oneApr 02 08:14
oiaohmPlease note they are not sitting on software patents.Apr 02 08:15
twittershow me one software patent that's an actual invention instead of a business method or mathApr 02 08:15
oiaohmThey are sitting on chip design and construction patents.Apr 02 08:15
twitterso what does IV have to counter that besides bluster?Apr 02 08:15
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twitterUS patents are insaneApr 02 08:16
oiaohmPool of software patents is basically worthless without the hardware patents preventing it being done in hardware.Apr 02 08:16
oiaohmSame with vice verser.Apr 02 08:16
gnufreexoiaohm same patent can be used for hw and swApr 02 08:17
oiaohmgnufreex: Not all cases.Apr 02 08:17
gnufreexoiahom: If you have vague enough patent, it can. But those are harder to get.Apr 02 08:19
gnufreexThere is nothing that says "this is SW patent" Apr 02 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting: http://is.gd/Prb6UW, Note: our #recommendation for FUDCon EMEA is #Milan (not a final result!)Apr 02 08:20
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gnufreexIt just needs to be unspecific.Apr 02 08:20
oiaohmThere is a problem with unspecific.Apr 02 08:20
gnufreexAnd then owner can sue both hardware and software implementations. Apr 02 08:20
oiaohmTo a point gnufreexApr 02 08:20
oiaohmNow if owner who is sueing has what MS has with motorola where attacked stands ground attacker can find self in very big trouble.Apr 02 08:21
oiaohmNot only do they risk losing they risk being in contempt of court and losing sections of there legal teams for good.Apr 02 08:21
gnufreexProblem with vague patents is that they are easier to invalidate.Apr 02 08:22
oiaohmYes the put up to display your implementation of the patent before the judge.Apr 02 08:22
gnufreexAnd also harder to get in first placeApr 02 08:23
gnufreexIt needs to be something really new.Apr 02 08:23
oiaohmIBM system of take out a proper patent.Apr 02 08:23
oiaohmThen ring it in defense documents that are vague.Apr 02 08:23
gnufreexIf there is prior art, USPTO asks to narow down the claims.Apr 02 08:23
gnufreexANd then it becomes more specific.Apr 02 08:23
oiaohmNote defense documents fall under prior art.Apr 02 08:23
oiaohmYes its simpler to destroy a reach of a patent then to defend a patent.Apr 02 08:24
oiaohmFor every 1 patent ibm takes out there are about 20 to 30 defensive documents.Apr 02 08:24
oiaohmSo even if you do invalid date ibms patent the defensive documents stop yours.Apr 02 08:25
oiaohmRecent change the the USA will also reduce patents.Apr 02 08:26
oiaohmFirst to file.Apr 02 08:26
oiaohmCan get the patent.Apr 02 08:26
oiaohmNow if you invented before the other person you only option will be to invalidate the patent.Apr 02 08:26
gnufreexThat asumes that everything will be patentedApr 02 08:26
twitterOh please, ohm.  First to file won't prevent duplicate patents any more than the current system does.  Apr 02 08:27
gnufreexUSPTO barely checks prior art, just prior patents Apr 02 08:27
gnufreexSo if someone invents something and doesn't patentApr 02 08:28
gnufreexSomeone can patent itApr 02 08:28
twitterUSPTO does a poor job of prior patent searches tooApr 02 08:28
oiaohmtwitter: No but if you can find a prior patent the new rule means the later patent gets deleted straight up.Apr 02 08:28
oiaohmtwitter: Instead of the current process where you end up with a dispute over who invented first.Apr 02 08:28
twitteryou assume competence but all evidence is against thatApr 02 08:29
oiaohmAlso the USPTO is starting to get desperate.Apr 02 08:29
oiaohmAt the rate patent backlogs are growing.Apr 02 08:29
twitterFirst to file will simply validate empty patent filings by big rich companies that have no working inventions.  Apr 02 08:29
oiaohminside 6 years the backlog for new patents may be longer than the patents live span.Apr 02 08:29
twitterFirst to file will encourage a flood of stupid patents that should never be filed.  It won't fix the backlog it will make it worse. Apr 02 08:30
oiaohmYep.  twitterApr 02 08:30
gnufreexchinese will file mostApr 02 08:31
twitterElimination of software and business patent patents is a start, but I lean towards scrapping all patents. Apr 02 08:31
gnufreexAnd then Chinese will bring USA to standstillApr 02 08:31
oiaohmEven Elimination of software and business patents still will not stop the growing rate of patents.Apr 02 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Gave my talk on Why Free Software Isn't Better at Özgür Yazılım ve Linux Günleri (Free Software and Linux Days) in Istanbul!Apr 02 08:31
gnufreexOr make them drop the patentsApr 02 08:31
oiaohmRemember about 80 percent of the growth covers medical and hardware patents.  twitterApr 02 08:31
oiaohmSimple point the patent system is going to basically implode on itself unless something radical is done.Apr 02 08:32
gnufreexProblem is that it wontApr 02 08:35
gnufreexIt will just make rich people more richApr 02 08:35
oiaohmhttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/5523741.html  twitter note this is a hardware patent.  Yes some hardware patents are purely wrong.Apr 02 08:35
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gnufreexAnd those who buy into kool aid will not get defend their patents.Apr 02 08:36
gnufreexToo expensiveApr 02 08:36
schestowitz[16:11] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Rim gets its hands on 30,000 patents- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 58.65 KBApr 02 08:36
schestowitzAh, so BlackBerry is taxed by the Nathan+Bill TrollsApr 02 08:36
schestowitzTheir joint venture taxing new things if not each PC (all phones)Apr 02 08:37
schestowitzThey also appear to tax Android at HTC and Samsung using the IV troll, but nobody talks about itApr 02 08:37
schestowitz[16:13] <twitter> patent troll as protectorApr 02 08:38
schestowitzThat's some atrocious coverageApr 02 08:39
oiaohmThe idea that wrong patents are only restricted to software and business is completely wrong.Apr 02 08:39
gnufreexWhere is that RIM articlE? I can't find the link.Apr 02 08:40
oiaohmI am supprised no one has not patented chewing nails yet.Apr 02 08:40
schestowitzCompany extorts funder's rival (Bill vs Linux), press casts that as "protection"Apr 02 08:40
schestowitzEvil is the new "good"Apr 02 08:40
oiaohmReally RIM doing deal could get interesting.Apr 02 08:41
oiaohmWill we see RIM next doing windows moble phones.Apr 02 08:41
schestowitz[16:28] <gnufreex> USPTO barely checks prior art, just prior patents Apr 02 08:41
oiaohmI hope not.Apr 02 08:41
schestowitzExactlyApr 02 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hope everyone at #NELF has fun and enjoys my logo. :DApr 02 08:41
schestowitzoiaohm: possibleApr 02 08:43
schestowitzMaybe not enough moles in there yetApr 02 08:43
schestowitzWhat does Vista Phony practically do that RIM's platform can't?Apr 02 08:44
schestowitzIt's possible that as RIM dies due to Apple and Google Microsoft will 'pull a Nokia' on a dying RIMApr 02 08:44
schestowitzMicrosoft: with a pile of corpses we'll build a zombie army and try to defeat the livingApr 02 08:45
oiaohmgnufreex: and twitter I wish I could remember the patent number.  There is a USA patent for attempting to hammer in a nail backwards.  Ie head first driven by hammer on pointy end.Apr 02 08:45
oiaohmYes the bugger is valid.Apr 02 08:45
schestowitzShould it be?Apr 02 08:45
schestowitzNot everything that's rule legal or valid should beApr 02 08:46
schestowitzThen there's civil disobedienceApr 02 08:46
oiaohmReally enforcing that patent would kinda insane.Apr 02 08:46
gnufreexWhat is most crazy is that "Arena Football League" was patented. Nobody was allowed to play Football (one with helmets) indoor on short field. Luckily, it expired. Apr 02 08:47
gnufreexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_LeagueApr 02 08:47
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gnufreexAnd league bustedApr 02 08:47
gnufreexGood riddanceApr 02 08:47
gnufreexNow other company bought it and no patents.Apr 02 08:48
schestowitzWhat does buying a patent really mean? Think about it.Apr 02 08:49
schestowitzLaterally.Apr 02 08:49
gnufreexBuying right to sue.Apr 02 08:50
schestowitzBuying an idea or passing so-called ownership of one...Apr 02 08:50
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_League  I hope Arena Football League dies its too confusing.Apr 02 08:50
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schestowitzIt's like buying a right to extortApr 02 08:50
schestowitzMATLAB's 3d is killing x hereApr 02 08:51
schestowitzI can't type for like 10 secondsApr 02 08:51
gnufreexoiaohm: I watched Footy game the other day, it is great.Apr 02 08:51
schestowitzX takes up entire coreApr 02 08:51
gnufreex(on tv)Apr 02 08:51
schestowitzFooty=Aussie Football?Apr 02 08:52
gnufreexYeahApr 02 08:52
schestowitzIn Britain, normal football is sometimes called fotballApr 02 08:52
schestowitz*footieApr 02 08:52
schestowitzIt's just slang, not the same for Australian footballApr 02 08:52
schestowitzThey are all world champions... by making their own version for a game only they playApr 02 08:53
schestowitz"The World Series"Apr 02 08:53
schestowitz=USAApr 02 08:53
gnufreexNormal football sucks. I never liked it. Apr 02 08:53
schestowitz"The Dream Team" (there is only an AMerican Dream)Apr 02 08:53
schestowitzgnufreex: too few ways to scoreApr 02 08:53
schestowitzTennis is goodApr 02 08:54
schestowitzVollyball scoring changedApr 02 08:54
schestowitzVolleyball where the scoring way changedApr 02 08:54
gnufreexNot just scoring.Apr 02 08:54
gnufreexIt is boring. Apr 02 08:54
schestowitzto 25 -> 15 with service for score to incrementApr 02 08:54
gnufreexFor playing and for watching.Apr 02 08:54
schestowitz22 peopleApr 02 08:55
schestowitzOne holds ball at one timeApr 02 08:55
gnufreexYeahApr 02 08:55
schestowitzBasketball has 10Apr 02 08:55
schestowitzTennis=2Apr 02 08:55
schestowitzSo fun for playApr 02 08:55
gnufreexThere is nothing to do when you don't have ball in soccer Apr 02 08:55
gnufreexfootbal*Apr 02 08:55
gnufreexIn basketball, you box out a guyApr 02 08:56
gnufreexon reboudApr 02 08:56
schestowitzgnufreex: you improve positioning :-)Apr 02 08:56
gnufreexOr set a pickApr 02 08:56
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oiaohmAustralian Football League games are interesting to watch.Apr 02 08:56
gnufreexIn American football, you chase they guy with the ball, or defend him.Apr 02 08:56
oiaohmReally American Football is insaneApr 02 08:57
schestowitzIf you're a goalie like me, watching and playing is the same most of the timeApr 02 08:57
gnufreexlolApr 02 08:57
oiaohmAll that body armor they place on themselvesApr 02 08:57
gnufreexoiaohm: That is why I like itApr 02 08:57
oiaohmThen expect no one to get hurt.Apr 02 08:57
oiaohmI more prefer walking Aus AFLApr 02 08:58
gnufreexoiaohm: I played American football. And I did get hurt. But I am not sorry.Apr 02 08:59
oiaohmsoccer I would get stuck as full back or wing.Apr 02 08:59
oiaohmMainly for both the same reasons.Apr 02 08:59
schestowitz"chase the guy with the ball" sounds wrongApr 02 09:00
oiaohmI was very good at only ball contact.Apr 02 09:00
oiaohmI had it down to a fine art that I could flip a person by only hitting the ball.Apr 02 09:00
gnufreex<schestowitz> "chase the guy with the ball" sounds wrongApr 02 09:00
gnufreexwhy?Apr 02 09:00
oiaohmI remember the one day I got red carded.  I flipped the ref.Apr 02 09:01
schestowitzI was jokingApr 02 09:02
schestowitzBut...Apr 02 09:02
schestowitzI like to joke about guys who think watching football is the ultimate way to prove their manhoodApr 02 09:02
schestowitzThey just get all obsessed with guys in shortsApr 02 09:02
oiaohmBasically I was a hazard playing football.  schestowitzApr 02 09:02
gnufreexoiaohm: There are cards in aussie football? I didn't see it. Or you are talking about soccer?Apr 02 09:03
schestowitzThey should be all hyped up about women's beach volleyballApr 02 09:03
oiaohmgnufreex: soccer.  I got red carded for flipping the ref with the ball.  Apr 02 09:03
oiaohmgnufreex:  Todo it is pure timing.Apr 02 09:03
gnufreexoiaohm: Did you get him on the head?Apr 02 09:04
oiaohmgnufreex: Not that much force really.  Person ends up laying on back.  Wondering what in hell just happened.Apr 02 09:04
gnufreexHe shouldn't give you red card,. it is against the rulesApr 02 09:06
oiaohmThe hard bit is the timing there is a very small window.  gnufreexApr 02 09:06
gnufreexWhen ref gets hit with the ball, game continuesApr 02 09:06
gnufreexlike nothing happenedApr 02 09:06
oiaohmGet it wrong you can break the person ankle.Apr 02 09:06
gnufreexAnd it is his own faultApr 02 09:06
oiaohmReally that he was not playing for the ball taking him down was against the rules.Apr 02 09:07
gnufreexHow you can break person's ankle with ball? Apr 02 09:09
oiaohmVery simply.Apr 02 09:10
oiaohmTags gripped in ground by full body weith .  Then use the ball on the side of leg to drive them over sideways.Apr 02 09:10
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oiaohmYes those deep strong gripping tags become your worst enemy.Apr 02 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A finely balanced cricket world cup final. very exciting.Apr 02 09:13
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gnufreex_What did I miss?Apr 02 09:13
oiaohmWhat was my last line gnufreex_Apr 02 09:14
gnufreex_<oiaohm> Really that he was not playing for the ball taking him down was against the rules.Apr 02 09:14
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oiaohm[02:10] <oiaohm> Very simply.Apr 02 09:14
oiaohm[02:10] <oiaohm> Tags gripped in ground by full body weith .  Then use the ball on the side of leg to drive them over sideways.Apr 02 09:14
oiaohm[02:11] <oiaohm> Yes those deep strong gripping tags become your worst enemy.Apr 02 09:14
oiaohmI was also banned from taking part in hurdle races.  Since I could run the race faster launching the hurles forwards than jumping over or steping on them.Apr 02 09:15
oiaohmBreak fall at every hurdle.  Longest distance I sent a hurdle forwards was a nice 30 metres.Apr 02 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Moron on the Fedora Marketing list wants to relabel PackageKit into "Fedora App Store" because that is "easier for users"... WTF!?Apr 02 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTH would we call it a store when we aren't *selling* anything? OoApr 02 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Time to get the gods out, redcafe.net style #indvsslApr 02 09:19
gnufreex_oiaohm: did you ever play aussie football ? I heard everyone has to play it in australia. Apr 02 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time Warner pulls channels on Ipad app http://is.gd/TAfFun #oldbusinessmodelsApr 02 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Is It Rocket Science That Laws Should Apply Online Too? - http://bit.ly/fAx46e interesting comparison between #analogue & #digitalApr 02 09:21
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oiaohmgnufreex_: Not true.  I am in Queenland.  My build forbids me from all bar soccer and touch or being a trainer for the others.Apr 02 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] First one: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A2p-V-VhJGI/TV2XQFJIUAI/AAAAAAAAAIY/G3dUgPVGBuY/s1600/Sachin_Tendulkar.jpgApr 02 09:23
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oiaohmYes it does sux being forbin from it so you are the odd one out.  gnufreex_  Rugby union is more likely to be played in Queenland.Apr 02 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] How about we call it "Duh..... Apps. WINNING!"Apr 02 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This Indian run chase looks like being close.Apr 02 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Dhoni holding his cricket bat looks like Hanumaan with his gaddaApr 02 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India need 53 from 54 balls #cricketApr 02 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Plastic BeachApr 02 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India need 16 from 18 balls, loads of wickets in hand, all over bar the cheering.Apr 02 10:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, I noticed something on my quad core system that never really affected my dual core systemApr 02 10:18
DaemonFCI think I only noticed it because I was playing around without tear free on in CatalystApr 02 10:19
DaemonFCHZ=1000 in kernel configuration causes a lot more tearing than HZ=300Apr 02 10:19
DaemonFCI guess it's probably obvious if you stop to think about it but I had been running tear free and was used to ticking HZ=1000Apr 02 10:20
DaemonFCquad core CPUs don't seem to deal with lots of timer interrupts too well, and the help screen probably has never been updated to account for thatApr 02 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India win World Cup #Cricket well played and bad luck Sri Lanka in loosing consecutive finals.Apr 02 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Dhoni you champ. Salute you mate :)Apr 02 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @evan - will you be adding a link-blog-post ability to freelish.us please? It's the last chain keeping me tied to delicious...Apr 02 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anyone get the impression that our Federal Politicians think that they've been doing a good job? I'd mark them at a D- myself.Apr 02 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I read that as Feral Politicians, my eyeballs playing Freudian tricks on me againApr 02 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The IP Maximalist's Guide To Making It Big http://is.gd/rKv6OJ #TechDirt excellent & entertaining as usualApr 02 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In any country most of the spies are spying on the people. What does that tell us about #democracy and #freedomApr 02 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sometimes all you can do is laugh http://is.gd/bixi8E #NYTimes #Paywall #trademarkeabuse #hilariousApr 02 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Is It Rocket Science That Laws Should Apply Online Too? http://bit.ly/fAx46e interesting comparison #analogue & #digitalApr 02 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh you don't need to sell to call it a store. It isn't easier for users, I agree, but is more recognizeable than PackageKit (in menus)Apr 02 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan why does freelish.us allow linking accounts from twitter but not identi.ca? :)Apr 02 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] welcome to the future of #Hollywood http://is.gd/mrUNJD #parasites #shiestersApr 02 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Film Company That's Sued Thousands Might Not Even Own Rights To Film It's Suing Over | Techdirt .::. Size~: 131.91 KBApr 02 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan yes, but I don't want to just subscribe, but use it :)Apr 02 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan it seems I need to create an account there... and yes, my identi.ca browser sessions is activeApr 02 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And the bullshit continues. I wish these people would at least *admit* they are trying to copy Apple....Apr 02 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Canonical gambling with its unique UI and own copyrights? http://ur1.ca/3qqaa (Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst #Ubuntu beta ever)Apr 02 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever • The Register .::. Size~: 25.65 KBApr 02 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jaws: A movie review - http://bit.ly/ggHwaB not new, but v. witty & wise (v @koxinga21 @standupmaths)Apr 02 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Buford O' Sullivan I Gotta Do It Someday http://is.gd/wiyNp7 #music #skaApr 02 11:43
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Buford O' Sullivan   I Gotta Do It Someday .::. Size~: 100.55 KBApr 02 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TV Site Sued For Linking To Completely Legal Videos - http://bit.ly/f1GuzR timeo Danaos et dona ferentes #greece #coipyrightApr 02 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Deleted last dent did not notice I was replying to re dent.Apr 02 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra Download a VM and try ♺ @hook: ♻ @gege2061: #GNU !Hurd 0.401 released http://ur1.ca/3q34p → !FSFEApr 02 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jerezim: Who should win in #EU? The Internet or the majors? Answer #IPRED consult before Sunday night! http://j.mp/idlMFU #copywrongApr 02 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I should not have deleted just re dentedApr 02 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @katesherrod Via @dredeyedick How Many Lives Will !WikiLeaks Save? | World | AlterNet http://bit.ly/doJoPnApr 02 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Many Lives Will WikiLeaks Save? | World | AlterNet .::. Size~: 103.36 KBApr 02 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmm..... This 2007 Médoc is awesome! :D And now it's Jungleland time....Apr 02 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] So many #sigtran protocols. Today I'm working on an #erlang M3UA implementations. SUA and M2PA are pending.Apr 02 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Toasters - Dub 56 http://is.gd/bVi704 #music #skaApr 02 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh http://www.google.pt/search?q=define%3AstoreApr 02 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm really not in the mood for these bullshit discussions right now. This point is so obvious.... Gonna listen to some music instead now.Apr 02 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] BTW, people who quote from a dictionary to prove a point get laughed at in lit courses in uni. For *good* reason....Apr 02 12:04
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ender2071trying slackware 13.37Apr 02 12:05
ender2071:)Apr 02 12:05
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ender2071btrfs support in slackware 13.37Apr 02 12:09
ender2071the installer lets me select itApr 02 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Outside the street's on fire in a real death waltz between what's flesh and what's fantasy..." #JunglelandApr 02 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two more Putzmiester pumps are being sent to Japan http://ur1.ca/3qqgaApr 02 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] 3 New Equinox Themes Released: Equinox Evolution Dawn, Dusk and Midnight http://bit.ly/gmHU8CApr 02 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh how is that a stretch? I commonly refer to the trunk of my car as the "Corpse Store" because that's where I store my ...um... toolsApr 02 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All ska'd out time to catch up with what the world is doing.Apr 02 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Tor Project Wins Award for Role in Middle East Revolutions http://ur1.ca/3qqld !effApr 02 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The north of Ireland's latest political violence is like any other, ripples from the failure of peaceful politics.Apr 02 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 145 dents!Apr 02 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "You deny us freedom so that you may sleep better at night, but I say it is a restless and undeserved slumber." ~ First Enchanter OrsinoApr 02 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT Chevenga Philosopher in Arms : The strangest Fifth Mill people http://bit.ly/fYg7Oa #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifiApr 02 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Nokia says about Symbian: "We're Open". The New License Shows Otherwise. http://is.gd/TCO8DF #nokia #microsoft #symbianApr 02 12:41
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Nokia says about Symbian:  "We're Open".  The New License Shows Otherwise. .::. Size~: 28.65 KBApr 02 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "That's all history is: the best tales. The ones that last. Might as well be mine." ~ VarricApr 02 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ Good stuff @davidmarsden @andyc @realityApr 02 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC click is being broadcast live on the net so for all the times it has pissed you off log on and give your feedback live. That should helpApr 02 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Unionized Workers are bankrupting Wisconsin, but $174,000 a year not living wage says Republican party Representative http://is.gd/mcEQyXApr 02 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GOPers Demand Sean Duffy Salary Tape Be Pulled From The Internet (VIDEO) | TPMDC .::. Size~: 38.07 KBApr 02 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 55 million downloads on 2011-04-02 19:57 UTCApr 02 12:58
schestowitzGot some coding done tonight...Apr 02 12:59
schestowitzBack in the days academics from China had asked me for source code (MATLAB) and sought collaboration. They are excellent at bringing commodity products to market, not just manufacturing. The key point is that working with them -- not necessarily against them -- seems to be the path to a vast market.Apr 02 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra ROFLApr 02 12:59
DaemonFCRed Flag Linux for schestowitz it is thenApr 02 13:00
DaemonFCcomplete with logging in everyone as root, looking like Windows XP, and full of backdoors for the Chinese governmentApr 02 13:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 13:01
schestowitzLOLApr 02 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lady Gaga goes gaga over #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/3qqs0 well....Apr 02 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A dark new future #Compiz http://ur1.ca/3qqs5 under Canonical's reign. #Ubuntu likes 3-D...Apr 02 13:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, The only decent government-sponsored distros I've seen are Ututo and ParsixApr 02 13:02
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DaemonFCand considering Parsix is from Iran I don't know if I would trust itApr 02 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In Thedas, I can at least stick a two handed sword up people's arses who disagree with me.... :PApr 02 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard M Stallman Says Its Linux Not GNU/Linux; Linus Upset With Android http://ur1.ca/3qqsh wonderful headline. #androidApr 02 13:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, Also, Debian's completely free kernel isn'tApr 02 13:03
DaemonFCit has nonfree firmware for my NICApr 02 13:03
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard M Stallman Says Its Linux Not GNU/Linux; Linus Upset With Android | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.82 KBApr 02 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Delaying #GNOME 3.0, again http://ur1.ca/3qqsr better to wait until it's good, learn from #KDE 4.0.Apr 02 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In #baseball, the LA #Angels 4, KC #Royals 5. Los Angeles loses, drops to a 1-2 record. #LABaseballApr 02 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delaying GNOME 3.0, again - mon journal - par Vincent .::. Size~: 19.89 KBApr 02 13:04
schestowitzJust got a call from my mate who used to play for England Sevens (rugby) :-DApr 02 13:05
schestowitzHe has recently had a childApr 02 13:05
schestowitzHow quickly people reproduce....!Apr 02 13:05
schestowitzcongrats to jono: http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/ubuntu-moving-forward-with-jono-bacon-at-fedroa/Apr 02 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu moving forward with Jono Bacon at Fedroa « Free Trader Beowulf .::. Size~: 42.8 KBApr 02 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft buys wine http://ur1.ca/3q4zq :-)Apr 02 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Buys Open Source ReactOS For $12.3 Billion | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 31.57 KBApr 02 13:08
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/microsoft-open-source-windowsApr 02 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Fact and Fiction: Microsoft To Open Source Windows .::. Size~: 86.96 KBApr 02 13:08
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 13:08
schestowitzLike anybody needs more shoddy codeApr 02 13:08
schestowitzIgnore the date: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/01/ubuntu1004_beta_review/Apr 02 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever • The Register .::. Size~: 25.65 KBApr 02 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] To unmuddy the waters :) that is Click on BBC world service formerly digital planet not the show on the telly. See previous dent.Apr 02 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Well I'm downloading the !Ubuntu Natty beta, even though the alphas didn't work for me. This is my last attempt thoughApr 02 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ScientificLinux 6.0 Released http://ur1.ca/3qqv8 had conversation last week about how it might replace #centos (slow patching)Apr 02 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I mean it no more coarse pate. It gets to the knife then straight to gob 3rd party delivery systems sit there unwanted and with a complexApr 02 13:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released — ServerWatch.com .::. Size~: 61.71 KBApr 02 13:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70281714Apr 02 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Saturday, 02-Apr-11 20:11:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz g3 is great :PApr 02 13:14
schestowitzI hope so...Apr 02 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @ruiseabra How much would you hate me if I asked if this is that semantic web they're all talking about :)Apr 02 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat tells us that big nasty #SCOracle justified obfuscating patches but harms innocent and vital players like #centos - all just PR?Apr 02 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk I hope so...Apr 02 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at the next generation of #Ubuntu Tweak! http://ur1.ca/3qqw1 #canonicalApr 02 13:16
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DaemonFCschestowitz, You may be a victim of software counterfeiting Apr 02 13:19
DaemonFCYou know there are victim support groups for that right?Apr 02 13:19
DaemonFCyou don't have to suffer in silenceApr 02 13:19
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Will Not Ship With A Classic Gnome Desktop http://bit.ly/h4Qv9dApr 02 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Would Be Disastrous For #Linux , Open-Source http://ur1.ca/3qqw8 @phoronix does realise #swpats are a top issueApr 02 13:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Will Not Ship With A Classic Gnome Desktop ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.94 KBApr 02 13:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] What Would Be Disastrous For Linux, Open-Source .::. Size~: 20.49 KBApr 02 13:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: tell your mate jonoApr 02 13:20
schestowitzHe got Vista 7 for freeApr 02 13:20
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Elementary OS 0.1 "Jupiter" http://ur1.ca/3qqwi #ubuntu #gnu #linuxApr 02 13:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Elementary OS 0.1 "Jupiter" .::. Size~: 114.26 KBApr 02 13:21
schestowitzBallmer put his Father Santa costume... "one copy for Miguel..... one for jono.." :-)Apr 02 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to disable Unity and go back to the classic interface in Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' http://ur1.ca/3qqxb choice still existsApr 02 13:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to disable Unity and go back to the classic interface in Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 142.31 KBApr 02 13:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: BT manual says the product contains GPL codeApr 02 13:27
schestowitzIt gives the address of the site with modsApr 02 13:27
schestowitzAnd IIRC this only happened after BT had been pressuredApr 02 13:27
schestowitzYou gave Samsung some Hell tooApr 02 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Got a fallback computer sorted out now that my GPU is dodgy and may get fried in the imminent future :-/Apr 02 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ABLEconf keynote is about gnu/freedom. #freedom #boycottnovell #freedomApr 02 13:28
schestowitzFoxxcon - was it really you who nailed them for BIOS or do you falsely claim credit?Apr 02 13:28
DaemonFCwas meApr 02 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Much of the reputation of the BBC abroad is based on reputation of BBC world service abroad which is different from what we get in....Apr 02 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ABLEconf keynote == open source 101?Apr 02 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ..Britain. If I want to know what the government line is on anything I listen to the BBC #pravda elsewhere for the real news. #BBC #failApr 02 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I just got a mention on http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ woohoo, i'm famous :)Apr 02 13:33
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schestowitzDaemonFC: why such an odd nym?Apr 02 13:34
schestowitzDid you hear the news from Foxconn?Apr 02 13:34
schestowitzMaybe you caused many children to be sackedApr 02 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Questions For Ryan Gordon, The Linux Game Porter http://ur1.ca/3qr12 top lad! #linux #IcculusApr 02 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Questions For Ryan Gordon, The Linux Game Porter .::. Size~: 19.17 KBApr 02 13:34
schestowitzhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/4/1/foxconn-announces-218-million-loss-2010/Apr 02 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foxconn announces $218 million loss for 2010 | thinq_ .::. Size~: 23.42 KBApr 02 13:36
schestowitzMaybe they overpaid the staffApr 02 13:36
schestowitzUnlike Apple :-/Apr 02 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat execs pushed hard for incentives http://ur1.ca/3qr1c #redhat #linuxApr 02 13:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/01/i-am-jef-spaleta/Apr 02 13:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/Duke-Nukem-Forever-Gearbox-PC-Gaming-Jetpack-Feces,12499.htmlApr 02 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VIDEO: Duke Nukem Vids Feature Jetpack, Poop .::. Size~: 122.28 KBApr 02 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Charlie Angus was lobbied by Canadian Music Publishers Association on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/gckJIIApr 02 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Pablo Rodriguez was lobbied by Canadian Music Publishers Association on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/eGhP7lApr 02 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FR: Space agency to use Apache Commons Math http://ur1.ca/3qr22 #france #apache $feedomApr 02 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I have to admit !Ubuntu Natty beta 3 seems to have loaded fine this time, so my graphic issues must have been sorted outApr 02 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Maccyness is a serious problem though. This is far from ideal I have t sayApr 02 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FR: Space agency to use Apache Commons Math — .::. Size~: 30.04 KBApr 02 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RESCUE OF TSUNAMI DOG 3 WEEKS AT SEA http://ur1.ca/3qr3p but not the main story... #japanApr 02 13:48
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ch_s/status/53762075360632832Apr 02 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr@ch_s: @Fosspatents: now that you're at the board of #msft,do you plan to overthrow Steve Ballmer? The industry deserves answers!Apr 02 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ FFII [to Microsoft drones] As #Office isn't profitable the Office branch would be sold to Borland. They are keen to support #OOXML.Apr 02 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @FFII Cake from #FFII for #FSFE 10th birthday party at #cbase in berlin http://ur1.ca/3pyohApr 02 13:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: https://file.status.net/i/identica/ffii-20110401T003550-2qg3cds.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.07 KBApr 02 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Helpful film I did not have to look it up. Metropolitan Building #architectureApr 02 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Openness of the UK http://ur1.ca/3qr6t #odf #ukApr 02 13:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Openness of the UK (Trond's Opening Standard) .::. Size~: 82.02 KBApr 02 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @dai: Lancashire Police officers dismissed for breaching data laws http://ur1.ca/3qr4r !privacyApr 02 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lancashire Police officers dismissed for breaching data laws - Big Brother Watch .::. Size~: 47.39 KBApr 02 14:01
MinceRDaemonFC: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/02/ron-english-mexico-sign.jpgApr 02 14:02
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DaemonFCMinceR, Obviously not trueApr 02 14:03
DaemonFCor our welfare system wouldn't be so overburdened by our non-taxpaying friendsApr 02 14:03
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @davidmarsden With @reality & @andyc, I present for your aural pleasures Operation Sandbags At Dawn: http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ ! ...Apr 02 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian starts attacking Google, not just #Linux - revised lobbying contract? http://ur1.ca/3qr7mApr 02 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM is like the bloke in the pub who says "If I ran the country....". But PM is and we expect more thought, civil service tie him up.Apr 02 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh http://twitpic.com/4g7yvc @popeyApr 02 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When you have place the tabs in their groups, they should just stay there.Apr 02 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays http://ur1.ca/3qrdg !techrightsApr 02 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays http://ur1.ca/3qrdg #techrightsApr 02 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Am I in a very small minority that thinks Angelena Jolie is nothing special?Apr 02 14:39
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schestowitzHeh. zoobab__ ...Apr 02 14:41
schestowitzYou make one statement (as FFII president)Apr 02 14:42
schestowitzAnd then Andre at @ffii contradicts that in a senseApr 02 14:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/54295764356182016Apr 02 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz Microsoft Florian starts attacking Google, not just #Linux ░ http://ur1.ca/3qr7m |Only @InfoWorld & @ZDNet take him seriouslyApr 02 14:42
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schestowitzExactly!Apr 02 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh Tottie. I assumed the acting abilities spoke for themselves.Apr 02 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The RSA Hack: How They Did It - NYTimes.com http://ow.ly/4rU5GApr 02 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Depeche Mode : People Are People, Everything Counts, Personal Jesus.... classics.Apr 02 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh That photo reminds me of a kde screensaver I had years ago. A strawberry with KDE "sweet"Apr 02 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh She is truly fecund. Follows Wall Street and leverages her pregnancies with acquisitions :) Do not get me wrong nice not special.Apr 02 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Loving #lancelot a lot! It has helped boost my productivity. http://ur1.ca/3qrj9 #kde #launcherApr 02 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !lastfm is teaming up with Camden Crawl again to host an amazing night of music at Koko on 1st May.Apr 02 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Link: !lastfm http://www.last.fm/event/1890757+Last.fm+Presents+%40+Camden+Crawl+2011Apr 02 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] shinh/maloader - GitHub « I'm trying to see the application for this, but I can admire the idea anyway http://ping.fm/AiV6kApr 02 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Programmer has a sense of humour in the game I am playing. "enough resources at the end of eternity" or DNFE year one as we know it.Apr 02 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for #linux and #unixApr 02 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for !linux and !unixApr 02 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Gwibber lens for Ubuntu Unity available; adds social awesome to the 11.04 desktop « Alledgedly anyway http://ping.fm/tgeB4Apr 02 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can admire Unity even if I don't actually like it yet. !Ubuntu have clearly put a lot of work into it and it is inventiveApr 02 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME Asia Summit 2011 http://ping.fm/xB6sOApr 02 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @4sHwiN: #Gopumon #facts RT @ganeshkn: Good one! RT: @adicrazy: When the coach said 'learn from Malinga', Sreesant promptl...Apr 02 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: #India got 1st worldcup in the year i was born. Now India got it again, in the year in which my son is born! #cwc2011Apr 02 15:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Life's a Story: GNOME Asia Summit 2011 .::. Size~: 56.03 KBApr 02 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: Lady Gaga goes gaga over #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/3qqs0 - My respect for the woman went up a notch!Apr 02 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I scanned this before thought it was a poisson d'avril.Apr 02 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !lastfm music player for !google !chrome https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/bbncpldmanoknoahidbgmkgobgmhnafhApr 02 15:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last.fm free music player - Google Chrome extension gallery .::. Size~: 21.23 KBApr 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The @FFII Undresses the European Union http://ur1.ca/3qrp1Apr 02 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #FFII Undresses the European Union http://ur1.ca/3qrp1 #swpats #eu #microsoft #lobbying #epoApr 02 15:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The FFII Undresses the European Union | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.16 KBApr 02 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for #linux and #unixApr 02 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Nokia says about #Symbian: "We're Open". The New License Shows Otherwise. http://ping.fm/KpM3XApr 02 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.08 KBApr 02 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Nokia says about Symbian:  "We're Open".  The New License Shows Otherwise. .::. Size~: 33.7 KBApr 02 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Compare and contrast. Indian support for Tamil Tigers and Western support for we do not really know yet. Long civil wars. #LibyaApr 02 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still totally digging Dragon Age II. What a great game.... But now I'm off.Apr 02 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Kubuntu: Kubuntu !Natty Beta 1 Released cc !KDE http://ping.fm/xxQfqApr 02 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kubuntu Natty Beta 1 Released | Kubuntu .::. Size~: 8.52 KBApr 02 15:58
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schestowitzHey!Apr 02 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates and Nathan #Myhrvold Find New Ways to Extort the Competitors, Using Patents http://ur1.ca/3qtb3 #iv swpatsApr 02 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold Find New Ways to Extort the Competitors, Using Patents http://ur1.ca/3qtb3 #patenttroll #swpats #linuxApr 02 16:00
TechrightsBot-trEmpty reply from server ( http://ur1.ca/3qtb3 )Apr 02 16:00
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schestowitzload average: 2.33, 1.25, 0.86Apr 02 16:00
schestowitzOdd. the site misbehaves all of a sudden..Apr 02 16:00
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/3qtb3Apr 02 16:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold Find New Ways to Extort the Competitors, Using Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.6 KBApr 02 16:01
schestowitzOK, works again now... blipping and flopping..Apr 02 16:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LLLH86VVApr 02 16:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service .::. Size~: 21.15 KBApr 02 16:01
DaemonFCheheApr 02 16:01
DaemonFCupdated with the latest test version of BFSApr 02 16:01
DaemonFCand the latest ureadahead tracing events patch I cherry picked out of Ubuntu's kernel gitApr 02 16:02
_Goblin:)Apr 02 16:02
_GoblinhowdyApr 02 16:02
_Goblinhi daemonFC....Apr 02 16:03
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 16:03
DaemonFChelloApr 02 16:03
_GoblinI always like coming in the channel and catching you mid sentence!Apr 02 16:03
DaemonFCThis kernel runs pretty wellApr 02 16:03
DaemonFC(using it now)Apr 02 16:03
_GoblinWowApr 02 16:03
_Goblin.....praise?Apr 02 16:03
DaemonFCno, I uploaded it for someone who asked for a copyApr 02 16:04
DaemonFCso why not link to it?Apr 02 16:04
MinceRhay _Goblin Apr 02 16:04
_GoblinYou know I only jest DaemonFC....its always good to see you here chatting.Apr 02 16:04
_Goblinhi MincerApr 02 16:04
_GoblinI have a confession.....Apr 02 16:06
_GoblinIve just watched "Wanted" on TV and I liked it.Apr 02 16:06
_GoblinI would have been on earlier but I was distracted by the film.......blame Angelina Jolie.Apr 02 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] downloading ep 1 of #tinap expect a savage review shortly, finding faults everywhere......lol...nah kiddin', its sounds funApr 02 16:08
_GoblinAmazing isnt it....MVP's are talking about Windows 8 and they still havent managed to get the vast number of people off XP.......Apr 02 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ooh yes listening to #tinap too.Apr 02 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the thing about audio / video casts involving peeps you type to / with is you have a voice to put to a nameApr 02 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ⚡ Wikipedia’s April Fools: For April Fool’s Day, Wikipedia editors have collected such a wonderful set of links ... http://wmk.me/epMCx3Apr 02 16:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ⚡ Wikipedia’s April Fools « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 52.55 KBApr 02 16:18
schestowitz_Goblin: LOLApr 02 16:24
schestowitzXP is gold to many ISVsApr 02 16:24
schestowitzMeanwhile we have far better distros, give people time, they'll use the same on the desktop as they do on their phoneApr 02 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat’s Obfuscated Patches Harm Small GNU/Linux Players and Help Microsoft/Novell http://ur1.ca/3qtge #redhat #centosApr 02 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Red Hat’s Obfuscated Patches Harm Small #GNU #Linux Players and Help Microsoft/Novell http://ur1.ca/3qtge !redhat !centosApr 02 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh actually no, while at university, teachers used "store" all around for storing data, not selling software.Apr 02 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat’s Obfuscated Patches Harm Small GNU/Linux Players and Help Microsoft/Novell | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.67 KBApr 02 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat’s Obfuscated Patches Harm Small GNU/Linux Players and Help Microsoft/Novell | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.67 KBApr 02 16:25
_GoblinAre we good to record on Sunday?Apr 02 16:25
_GoblinIm having dinner around parents house but should be back around 8pmApr 02 16:25
schestowitz"Science is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one's living at it." Albert EinsteinApr 02 16:26
schestowitzHeh. How trueApr 02 16:26
schestowitz_Goblin: uesApr 02 16:26
schestowitzyesApr 02 16:26
_Goblinexcellent!Apr 02 16:26
_GoblinbtwApr 02 16:26
_Goblinmy favourite quote......Apr 02 16:26
schestowitzShe's coming?Apr 02 16:26
schestowitzThe singer..Apr 02 16:26
_GoblinHaven't had a email yetApr 02 16:26
_Goblinthey replied...I sent another off.....Apr 02 16:26
_GoblinI haven't had much time to chase since Ive been at workApr 02 16:27
_Goblin"The only true freedom is freedom from the hearts desires"Apr 02 16:27
_GoblinGot some cracking music for the show tooApr 02 16:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/54319990907740160Apr 02 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Pandersonpllc: @schestowitz to be fair, nothing really "new" about IV MSFT's activity. However, what Walker Digital did was new http://t.co/lKMzGAXApr 02 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Patent Litigation Experiences K-T* Event? « Gametime IP .::. Size~: 47.99 KBApr 02 16:28
schestowitz_Goblin: greatApr 02 16:28
_GoblinDo you like Cliff Richard?Apr 02 16:28
_Goblinhopefully not as it sounds nothing like cliff richard music.Apr 02 16:29
schestowitzSome.Apr 02 16:30
_Goblinoh dear.Apr 02 16:30
_Goblin;)Apr 02 16:30
*schestowitz listens to Do you wanna Dance in MinirokApr 02 16:31
_GoblinRoy, have you seen Pioneer One? The free to share SciFi Series on VODO?Apr 02 16:31
schestowitzNo idea why it's thereApr 02 16:31
schestowitzI haven'tApr 02 16:32
_Goblinif you get a chance do so...its in its 3rd ep...funded by donations.Apr 02 16:32
schestowitz_Goblin: we could probably meet some days agoApr 02 16:32
schestowitzBut the trip was at short noticedApr 02 16:32
schestowitzI could even stay over rather than in a hotelApr 02 16:32
_Goblinyou coming to back to London?Apr 02 16:32
schestowitzTo coordinate the show stuff hands-onApr 02 16:32
schestowitz_Goblin: maybe soonApr 02 16:33
_Goblinyou are welcome here anytimeApr 02 16:33
schestowitzThis month I go to walesApr 02 16:33
schestowitzAnd a mate got in touch this eveningApr 02 16:33
schestowitzHe can get me some contract work with rugby playersApr 02 16:33
*MinceR is listening to: FeekZoid - Savage (bm tsk fz)Apr 02 16:33
_Goblinyep well as I say you are welcome here anytime for as long as you like.....this time around we will be better prepared.........Apr 02 16:34
DaemonFC<schestowitz> XP is gold to many ISVs | schestowitz Because XP isn't a 17 GB monstrosity that takes a quad core to properly run (Unlike Vista7) and understands most crappy BIOSes out there, which is something Linux doesn't always do well :)Apr 02 16:34
schestowitz!google youtube FeekZoid - SavageApr 02 16:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Ring - Savage Lover: Free MP3 Download | http://beemp3.com/download.php%3Ffile%3D7596225%26song%3DSavage%2BLoverApr 02 16:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Animal House on Yahoo! Music | http://new.music.yahoo.com/animal-house/Apr 02 16:34
schestowitz_Goblin: IIRC you have relatives around hereApr 02 16:34
schestowitzYou should come some timeApr 02 16:34
_Goblinyeah....funnily enough those relatives are staying with my parents this weekendApr 02 16:34
schestowitzEscaping the rain, surelyApr 02 16:36
_Goblinaunt and Uncle (my mothers sister)....My cousin also lives in Chester....lovely place.Apr 02 16:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm trying to walk someone through how to pass nomce along to the kernel so the fucking BIOS doesn't cause a kernel panic. Explaining this to ones grandmother is not something easy to do if a 19 year old wonders why this is even necessary.Apr 02 16:36
_Goblinlol...Apr 02 16:36
DaemonFCSaying get better hardware and change your evil ways makes you the villain, not Windows.Apr 02 16:37
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schestowitz_Goblin: I get good upload speeds now, so I can upload shows in like 20 minutesApr 02 16:37
_Goblindaemonfc: would you promise me that if ever you visit the UK, you contact me for a meetup?Apr 02 16:37
schestowitzChester... right. I was there in JulyApr 02 16:37
schestowitzBut we talked about this IIRCApr 02 16:37
schestowitzSomething about "near the river"Apr 02 16:37
_Goblinyeah....Apr 02 16:37
schestowitz_Goblin: DaemonFC never left north AmericanApr 02 16:38
schestowitz_Goblin: DaemonFC never left north AmericaApr 02 16:38
schestowitzYet he ridicules any country other than the country called "America"Apr 02 16:38
DaemonFC:PApr 02 16:38
_Goblin:)Apr 02 16:38
DaemonFCno, not anyApr 02 16:38
DaemonFCmostly CanadaApr 02 16:38
DaemonFCMexicoApr 02 16:38
schestowitzANFTA makes them oneApr 02 16:38
schestowitz*NAFTAApr 02 16:38
_GoblinDaemonFC:  you brighten up the channel in a weird sort of negative, victor meldrew way...... ;)Apr 02 16:38
schestowitzHe does sometimesApr 02 16:39
DaemonFCThanks?Apr 02 16:39
schestowitzHe annoys less than he used toApr 02 16:39
schestowitzBut Gordon doesn't like himApr 02 16:39
schestowitzSo much so that he sanctions itApr 02 16:39
_GoblinDaemonFC:  yeah...I think its thanks....Apr 02 16:39
schestowitz!google thistleweb autojoinApr 02 16:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - I No Longer Autojoin #Techrights | The Digital Prism | http://thistleweb.co.uk/blog/05/01/2011/i-no-longer-autojoin-techrightsApr 02 16:39
DaemonFChis lossApr 02 16:40
_GoblinFYI DaemonFC Victor Meldrew:Apr 02 16:40
_Goblinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_MeldrewApr 02 16:40
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schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-04-Beta-1-Is-Available-for-Download-192416.shtmlApr 02 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 1 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 57.45 KBApr 02 16:40
schestowitzHas someone run itApr 02 16:40
schestowitzThe Reg nails the ****** on this betaApr 02 16:40
_Goblinhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1600000/images/_1602705_victorbbc300.jpgApr 02 16:40
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeApr 02 16:40
schestowitzQueen Viktoria OrbanApr 02 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan ah, so it's enabled here too, ok, nice to know!Apr 02 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Bill Gates and Nathan #Myhrvold Find New Ways to Extort the Competitors, Using Patents http://ur1.ca/3qtb3 #iv swpatsApr 02 16:41
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_Goblinschestowitz: re: ubuntu, not yetApr 02 16:42
schestowitzhttp://marcelgagne.com/content/microsoft-buys-open-source-reactos-123-billionApr 02 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Buys Open Source ReactOS For $12.3 Billion | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 31.57 KBApr 02 16:43
DaemonFC_Goblin, Building Unity on top of GNOME's foundation is like building a house on top of a fault lineApr 02 16:43
schestowitzhttp://hubpages.com/hub/11-killer-features-that-make-Ubuntu-1104-worth-the-waitApr 02 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 11 Killer Features That Make Ubuntu 11.04 Worth the Wait .::. Size~: 59.88 KBApr 02 16:43
DaemonFCat least the land was cheap?Apr 02 16:43
schestowitzGaslandApr 02 16:43
_Goblin:) you never fail to disapoint DaemonFC !Apr 02 16:43
_Goblinunlike my spelling, which often does.Apr 02 16:44
_Goblin*disappointApr 02 16:44
schestowitzWho needs heating bills? Just strike a match near the faucet Apr 02 16:44
schestowitz_Goblin: zomg like kidz can spel this dazeApr 02 16:45
_GoblinRoy can I ask you for a quick view on a medical-ish related subject....?Apr 02 16:45
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DaemonFCI think no matter how good the results are when Unity ships in Natty, it will deteriorate Apr 02 16:45
DaemonFCbecause it depends on someone else's foundation that is not guaranteed to be stableApr 02 16:45
schestowitz_Goblin: sureApr 02 16:45
schestowitzBut I'm not a GPApr 02 16:45
schestowitzAnd my current job is not related to medical imaging either, it's facesApr 02 16:46
_GoblinIf we discount natural disaster or accident, would you agree or disagree that DNA predetermines our death and how...(ie which disease and when in life)Apr 02 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #tinap sounds like fun, if you guys want a guest in a future ep, gimmie a shoutApr 02 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla's "Do Not Track" Feature Gains Popularity http://ur1.ca/3qtqv #firefox #mozilla #privacyApr 02 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla's "Do Not Track" Feature Gains Popularity - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 42.41 KBApr 02 16:46
_Goblinschestowitz: reason I ask, I was having a very interesting argument with a friend about thisApr 02 16:47
DaemonFCHow about a Do Not Fuck With Me header?Apr 02 16:47
schestowitz_Goblin: yesApr 02 16:47
schestowitzit's not medicine reallyApr 02 16:47
DaemonFCwith optional I WILL Kill YouApr 02 16:47
schestowitzBut it's also causalityApr 02 16:47
MinceRwith optional SILENCE?Apr 02 16:47
MinceRhm, that would be without "WILL"Apr 02 16:47
_GoblinYeah, Ive always thought it was.....thats why some people live unhealthy lives and live a long time and others do not....and vice versa with healthy people...Apr 02 16:48
schestowitz!google heisenberg uncertaintyApr 02 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Uncertainty principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principleApr 02 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Uncertainty principle | http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/uncer.htmlApr 02 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Heisenberg / Uncertainty Principle - Werner Heisenberg and the ... | http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/Apr 02 16:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle | http://webs.morningside.edu/slaven/physics/uncertainty/uncertainty6.htmlApr 02 16:48
DaemonFCMinceR, Please don't track meApr 02 16:48
DaemonFCpretty pleaseApr 02 16:48
DaemonFCwith sugar on topApr 02 16:48
DaemonFCscouts honor?Apr 02 16:48
MinceR:>Apr 02 16:48
DaemonFCpinky swear?Apr 02 16:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: he'll drek youApr 02 16:48
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 16:49
DaemonFCtalk about most pointless feature ever. All this will do s add some overhead to all your HTTP GET requestsApr 02 16:49
_GoblinIm pleased to see Peppermint ICE continues to get praise:Apr 02 16:50
_Goblinhttp://www.linuxdistroreview.com/peppermint-os-iceApr 02 16:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Peppermint OS Ice | Linux Distro Review .::. Size~: 30.37 KBApr 02 16:50
_GoblinDaemonFC: Let me tell you the most useless feature ever created........Apr 02 16:51
tessier_schestowitz: Sure, I'll send over the logs.Apr 02 16:51
schestowitzThanks!Apr 02 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 quicker of the mark than Internet Explorer 9 http://ur1.ca/3qtuk because it's betterApr 02 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4 quicker of the mark than Internet Explorer 9 .::. Size~: 61.28 KBApr 02 16:51
DaemonFC_Goblin, something to do with GNOMEApr 02 16:51
DaemonFCor possibly Ubuntu's version of itApr 02 16:51
DaemonFC?Apr 02 16:52
_GoblinDaemonFC: Nope! an eject button on a DVD remote control....think about it, if you eject the disk you still have to bend down to remove it........Apr 02 16:52
schestowitzAnd thanks for logging it, I appreciate it takes time, I'm just glad to have the permanent connection back at homeApr 02 16:52
DaemonFCor walk over to the player anywayApr 02 16:52
DaemonFCto get the discApr 02 16:52
_GoblinyepApr 02 16:52
DaemonFCyes this thought has occurred Apr 02 16:52
_Goblin:)Apr 02 16:52
DaemonFCthe disc ejects and....... well shit, time to put the bag of chips over there and get this cat off my armApr 02 16:53
DaemonFCdamnApr 02 16:53
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 16:53
_Goblintrying to think of some more silly features......Apr 02 16:54
_GoblinnopeApr 02 16:55
_Goblinits too late...I'll try to come up with a few more tomorrow.Apr 02 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source, Nationality and Politics: How They Fit Together http://ur1.ca/3qty7 "Linus Torvalds... Swedish-speaking minority of Finland"Apr 02 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open-Source, Nationality and Politics: How They Fit Together | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 64.46 KBApr 02 16:56
schestowitzroy@home # cat jabba-owners | kill -9Apr 02 16:57
_Goblinah..Roy meant to say....I think there is a sound recording solution for Techbytes which involves alsamixer.....I got that from the local LUG......Apr 02 16:57
schestowitzI have the cam working in SIPApr 02 16:58
_Goblincool...Apr 02 16:58
schestowitzBoth sipcommunicator and ekigaApr 02 16:58
schestowitzAnd gtk-recordmydesktop can record video and sounds+desktopApr 02 16:58
DaemonFCAPPARMOR DENIED process schestowitz requested token "k"Apr 02 16:58
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 16:58
schestowitzTry "kkk"Apr 02 16:58
_Goblinyeah but I found recordmydesktop does not record sound from Skype properly.....I tried itApr 02 16:59
schestowitzI know...Apr 02 16:59
MinceRgnApr 02 16:59
schestowitzBut it's a compromiseApr 02 16:59
_GoblingnApr 02 16:59
schestowitzMaybe a video version to go up temporarily along with sound version that is high qualityApr 02 16:59
_Goblinjust been finishing a review of software but Im in two minds if I should write about it.....Apr 02 17:00
schestowitzI can move the mouse around the desktop to show stuff this wayApr 02 17:00
schestowitzMore fun to show sites while we chatApr 02 17:00
_Goblinyep....Apr 02 17:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/douglasabrown/status/54326018307137536Apr 02 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr@douglasabrown: RT @schestowitz: @schestowitz  Nathan #Myhrvold is one of my idols. The guy is amazing. In his spare time h… (cont) http://deck.ly/~SN7v6Apr 02 17:00
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schestowitz"The guy is amazing. In his spare time he figured out a dinosaur's tail was used as a mating call and when they would swing it from side-to-side it would cause a sonic boom. Crazy. The guy is smart!!!! AMAZING!"Apr 02 17:01
schestowitzHe must be jokingApr 02 17:01
schestowitzI reckon it's sarcasmApr 02 17:01
schestowitzBut anyhoo...Apr 02 17:01
_Goblinmmmm a tail that breaks the sound barrier.....?Apr 02 17:02
schestowitzwow. So smart... we should pay him $1m/hour of brainfartsApr 02 17:02
_Goblinwhen a whip cracks, whats causing that noise?Apr 02 17:02
schestowitz_Goblin: you mean, like a whipApr 02 17:02
schestowitzThat's why it makes noiseApr 02 17:02
schestowitzThe end of it moves very fastApr 02 17:02
_Goblinyeah.....so old Dino could do the same with its tail?Apr 02 17:03
schestowitzOh, you beat me to itApr 02 17:03
schestowitz_Goblin: long tailsApr 02 17:03
schestowitzPut 2 and 2 together\Apr 02 17:03
_Goblinlonger tails?Apr 02 17:03
schestowitzThey have this effect of leverage or whatever it's calledApr 02 17:03
schestowitzWhen you make something longer for speedApr 02 17:03
schestowitzThe word evades meApr 02 17:03
schestowitz_Goblin: yesApr 02 17:04
_GoblinI'm still trying to get my head around time distortion when an object travels the speed of light.Apr 02 17:04
schestowitzThose dinos which eat plants are are hundreds of feet longApr 02 17:04
schestowitz_Goblin: can it?Apr 02 17:04
schestowitzI think it slows down near itApr 02 17:04
_Goblinwell apparently yes.....Apr 02 17:04
schestowitzIt bends around that speedApr 02 17:04
schestowitzSo time slows when you approach itApr 02 17:04
_Goblinsaw this documentary about what would happen....Apr 02 17:05
schestowitzAnd then you can bend it (red- and blue- shift)Apr 02 17:05
schestowitzTime is relative, stillApr 02 17:05
schestowitzI think the funny man said, "put your hand on the stove, time will slow."Apr 02 17:05
schestowitzFor you anywayApr 02 17:06
_Goblinwhich if correct, the Startrek was complete rubbish.....since Warp speed was many times that of lightspeed so by the theory that time slows for the object at the speed of light, by the time kirk got his enterprise to Vulcan, everyone would be dead.Apr 02 17:06
schestowitzOr if you almost get run over and time freezes for you to reactApr 02 17:06
_GoblinMatrix!Apr 02 17:06
schestowitzPeople are not used to it, it's not intuitive when time is different depending on the spectatorApr 02 17:06
schestowitzIt's a curved dimensionApr 02 17:06
schestowitzWe think in 2- and 3-D because that's what we are equipped to do, but these are rigid dimensionsApr 02 17:07
_GoblinI do like the "put your hand in the stove" example.Apr 02 17:07
schestowitzI think the rest was something like "spend an hour with a beautiful girl"Apr 02 17:07
_Goblinaw sweet.......Apr 02 17:08
_Goblinjust heard a teaser trailer for Doctor on the TV behind me.Apr 02 17:08
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_Goblinon BBC1Apr 02 17:08
sebsebsebhiApr 02 17:08
_Goblinhi mateApr 02 17:08
sebsebseb_Goblin: what's on BBC 1?Apr 02 17:08
_Goblina teaser trailer for Doctor WhoApr 02 17:08
_Goblinnew seriesApr 02 17:08
sebsebseboh?Apr 02 17:08
sebsebsebwell I don't watch Doctor Who anywayApr 02 17:08
_Goblinonly a few seconds long....Apr 02 17:09
_Goblinsebsebseb: boo!Apr 02 17:09
_Goblinyou are missing outApr 02 17:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: in a way maybe I should, but uhApr 02 17:09
_Goblinhow can you not like the Daleks?Apr 02 17:09
sebsebsebit's just a British thing anywayApr 02 17:09
sebsebseband I don't tend to like British Shows anywayApr 02 17:09
sebsebsebunless it's a documentary basicalleyApr 02 17:09
sebsebsebor Real HustleApr 02 17:09
sebsebsebor yepApr 02 17:09
sebsebsebBBC ClickApr 02 17:09
_GoblinBBC Click?Apr 02 17:10
sebsebsebwell Real Hustle is a documentary as well reallyApr 02 17:10
sebsebseb_Goblin: yep ClickApr 02 17:10
_GoblinI'd rather listen to a COLAtroll for the evening than an episode of Click.Apr 02 17:10
sebsebsebdepends what it is about though, how much I like an episode or not thoughApr 02 17:10
cubezzzhehApr 02 17:10
sebsebseb_Goblin: COLA trolls heh, yeah some COLA troll stuff for techrights out there nowApr 02 17:11
_Goblinand COLAtroll / Click.....theres not that much to separate the two.....Apr 02 17:11
_Goblinits brilliant I love COLA.Apr 02 17:11
cubezzzthere's open cola too :)Apr 02 17:11
sebsebseb_Goblin: I liked Outcasts did you see that?Apr 02 17:11
_Goblinand Ive collected some brilliant examples of Microsoft Advocacy whilst also getting a little feedback from the showApr 02 17:11
sebsebsebnot sure if I saw the very last episode or notApr 02 17:11
sebsebsebhmmApr 02 17:11
sebsebsebI think something may have happended there, because the last one I saw I don't think was a last in the seriesApr 02 17:12
_Goblinapparently....Gordon is middle of the road according to some Colatrolls......and I should do radio or voice overs......oh and apparently Im a lunatic tooApr 02 17:13
sebsebseb_Goblin: yes I have seen a little stuff for me from COLAApr 02 17:13
schestowitz_Goblin: BTW, I saw tou defending me against libel from COLA trolls the other day. Thanks for that. It's like 40+ messages now, the trolls outnumber real advocates.Apr 02 17:13
sebsebseband now we are talking about it well they may see this in the log and quote itApr 02 17:13
sebsebseb_Goblin: so talking about COLA would be like feeding the COLA trolls if they see this I guess?Apr 02 17:14
_Goblinthats fine.Apr 02 17:14
_Goblinnah...they've gone past feeding,,,,,and to give em scraps you have to name emApr 02 17:15
sebsebseboh COLA trolls that may be reading this, well this is what I would like to say to you,  most of us don't share a lot of Roy schestowitz 's opinions when it comes to tech, that he expresses on the blogApr 02 17:15
_GoblinNewsbreak:Apr 02 17:15
_GoblinI don't share my opinions with anyone.......I don't agree with anyone fully except myself.Apr 02 17:15
schestowitzYeahApr 02 17:16
_Goblin*and when I say don't share, I mean have identical opinions to anyone elseApr 02 17:16
schestowitzLabels are a short version to affiliate oneselfApr 02 17:16
_Goblinoh hang on scrub that.Apr 02 17:16
sebsebsebCOLA trolls,  I don't read most of the stuff on the techrights blog, because I think it isn't worth reading really to be honestApr 02 17:16
_GoblinI agree with everything my wife says.Apr 02 17:16
_Goblin(she's next to me)Apr 02 17:16
schestowitzI few hours ago I saw it explained nicely in  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3RfOXCMLzc&feature=relmfu (About 10 mins in)Apr 02 17:17
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_Goblinsebsebseb: you think its bad on the site, you should visit COLA itself......Apr 02 17:17
schestowitzSARAH PALIN!Apr 02 17:17
_Goblin:)Apr 02 17:17
sebsebseb_Goblin: I have seen COLA stuff onlineApr 02 17:17
sebsebseb_Goblin: when it comes to techrightsApr 02 17:17
*schestowitz has seen Pepsi stuff offlineApr 02 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UMPlayer : New Cross-Platform #Mplayer GUI Based On #SMPlayer http://ur1.ca/3quf7 #linux #gnuApr 02 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke That's good to hear. I think freedom is important everywhere; Leading by example is I think the best way to effect change.Apr 02 17:18
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_GoblinI apparently saw a Vista user online once.Apr 02 17:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: this evening was quite sucky, my little brother, whineing loads about my older brother having his girl friend here again, and so onApr 02 17:19
_Goblinsebsebseb: the COLAtrolls do read this comprehensively, apparently they have enough time on their hands to do that and post in cola Apr 02 17:19
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/70289683 http://identi.ca/conversation/68003708#notice-70289683Apr 02 17:19
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 00:12:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Amazing. This is not about innovation, it's as stupid as #Microsoft's #patent on a car's sound system using #Open #Source OS.Apr 02 17:19
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schestowitz_Goblin: Vista users do existApr 02 17:19
schestowitzI was in one's house a week agoApr 02 17:20
_Goblinlike the loch ness?Apr 02 17:20
schestowitzIt could play videoApr 02 17:20
_GoblinMonsterApr 02 17:20
schestowitzWithout crashing actuallyApr 02 17:20
_Goblinyou sure?Apr 02 17:20
schestowitzBut I didn't see it do much else TBHApr 02 17:20
_Goblin;)Apr 02 17:20
sebsebseb_Goblin: yep and they might quote us on COLA, because of the well for them anyway, famous Roy Schestowitz,  and apparantly we are all the same ro whatever,  we all apparnatly have the same views when it comes to Tech, because well we aer all Techrights people apparnatly, you knowApr 02 17:20
schestowitzThe user hated itApr 02 17:20
sebsebseb_Goblin: as a result we apparantly agree with everything that schestowitz pus on the Techrights blogApr 02 17:20
schestowitz_Goblin: a narwalApr 02 17:20
_GoblinWasnt he convinced by Mojave?Apr 02 17:20
sebsebsebeven though realy it's so far from the trueApr 02 17:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah a narwallApr 02 17:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: Natty NarwallApr 02 17:20
sebsebsebwell this reminds meApr 02 17:21
schestowitzsebsebseb: he got it with his PCApr 02 17:21
sebsebsebanyone saw the Narwall fish outside Canonical's office on Google Maps?Apr 02 17:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: who got what with their PC?Apr 02 17:21
schestowitzAnyway, we watched Good Will Hunting on it (not seen it since it was released to the cinemas)Apr 02 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes, but not exactly the same as the US. We have laws prohibiting "hate speech" for instance.Apr 02 17:21
schestowitzsebsebseb: PCs were sold with Vista at the timeApr 02 17:21
schestowitzI offered to set up dual-boot for him at the time, but he was afraidApr 02 17:22
schestowitzHe does some work with autocad on this machineApr 02 17:22
schestowitzPeople don't know what OS meansApr 02 17:22
_Goblinschestowitz: Vista is loved......One guess who famously said this:Apr 02 17:22
_Goblin"Windows Vista is loved, its only those living in an IT bubble like you that are complaining"Apr 02 17:22
schestowitzThey think it's all about computer typesApr 02 17:22
schestowitzMac vs PCApr 02 17:22
schestowitzSo the notion of dual-boot makes no sense to themApr 02 17:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Google really do like Ubuntu it seems, hmm http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/google-earth-renders-cheeky-narwhal-outside-canonicals-officeApr 02 17:23
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schestowitzI thought it was planted manuallyApr 02 17:23
schestowitzBy a bloggerApr 02 17:23
schestowitzGoogle sucking up to Linux users..Apr 02 17:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: no can see it on Google Maps as well, or could see itApr 02 17:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: wrongApr 02 17:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: sucking up to Ubuntu usersApr 02 17:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: also remember that user agent stupidity I told you about? well they are going to do with with Chromimum and Chrome as well :(Apr 02 17:24
sebsebsebso now wellApr 02 17:24
sebsebsebso much for sites being able to measureApr 02 17:24
sebsebsebthe OS's that are used to access their websites propelryApr 02 17:25
sebsebsebfind out how many users are on each Linux distro or other OSApr 02 17:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: also the Firefox 4 user agent stupidtiy effects Ubuntu even, because the apt site, needs browser detection :DApr 02 17:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: there's a bug about this that's linked to from the beta page for 11.04Apr 02 17:26
sebsebsebthe 11.04 beta pageApr 02 17:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: also Firefox were removing stuff from the user agent, because Internet Explorer 9 was,  well  I think that's stupid to copy Microsoft like thisApr 02 17:26
sebsebsebalso in the case of Internet Explorer,  well for Micrsooft that could be a pretty good thing having other programs not being able to add to the user agent, because of the amount of junk that can be adddedApr 02 17:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin and on the subject of Google did you see Google Motion?Apr 02 17:28
schestowitzGoogle's Moe ShenApr 02 17:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: Who is that?Apr 02 17:29
schestowitzJusta  jokeApr 02 17:29
DaemonFCsebsebseb, You mean the 20 MB upload of all your .NET versions every time you visit a page in IE has left them with some room?Apr 02 17:29
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 17:29
schestowitzM. O. ChenApr 02 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #tinap loved it. Nice to hear Identi.ca stuff. By min 10 all shyness forgotten. IMHO you should keep going that will double my do not miss.Apr 02 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux Today" is running again, but only at a quarter of the old capacity (with Carla) :-(Apr 02 17:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah .NET adding to it for example, indeedApr 02 17:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: that's quite pointlessApr 02 17:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ,but also spyware browser toolbars and suchApr 02 17:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: in the case of Linux browsers though, I think that's a very good thing to have the distro showing, but unfortunatly Firefox has messed this upApr 02 17:30
sebsebseband the same kind of thing is going to be done with Chromium and Chrome as well :(Apr 02 17:31
DaemonFCOpera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; en) Presto/2.8.130 Version/11.10Apr 02 17:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC:  it seems they want to send less info to sites, because of privacy, and because of browser sniffingApr 02 17:31
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 17:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: that should say the distro really, but you can probaby also add it in quite easilly to Opera without a big issueApr 02 17:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: if you go around telling websites that your running Linux, well many people that see that in tehir website statastics will think UbuntuApr 02 17:32
sebsebsebI guessApr 02 17:32
schestowitzSane people don;'t browser sites to boost numbersApr 02 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Permabit extends data dedupe to #Linux -based #NAS http://ur1.ca/3qut0Apr 02 17:33
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sebsebsebschestowitz: browser sites?Apr 02 17:33
schestowitzSane sites don't give away log data to junk like Net Applications (Apple- and Microsoft-funded)Apr 02 17:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: typoApr 02 17:33
schestowitz*Browse sitesApr 02 17:33
sebsebsebI think browser user agent stings is the only way to measure Desktop Linux market share properlyApr 02 17:34
sebsebsebunlessApr 02 17:34
sebsebsebthe distro sites them selvesApr 02 17:34
sebsebsebstart monitoring the downloadsApr 02 17:34
schestowitzYeahApr 02 17:34
sebsebsebexactly why I think it's important for the distros to show in user agent strings :)Apr 02 17:34
sebsebsebalso there was thing about website stats I read for a siteApr 02 17:35
sebsebseband it was good let's see if I can get the link hmmApr 02 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Government Cost-Cutting Plan Embraces Open Source http://ur1.ca/3quw6 #Microsoft pays people to lobby against it right nowApr 02 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People behind #Debian : Bdale Garbee, chair of the technical committee http://ur1.ca/3owctApr 02 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Q&A: Open Source Electronics Pioneer Limor Fried on the DIY Revolution http://ur1.ca/3qgw6 #openhardware #hacking #diyApr 02 17:41
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_Goblinsebsebseb: sorry was afk......Apr 02 17:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin http://www.osnews.com/story/24579/OSNews_Browser_OS_StatsApr 02 17:43
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: ^Apr 02 17:43
sebsebsebI like this linkApr 02 17:44
sebsebseband I quite like how it mentions howApr 02 17:44
sebsebsebthat blog entry that article, howApr 02 17:44
sebsebsebbasicaly can't measure by distros properlyApr 02 17:44
_Goblinsebsebseb: very interesting statsApr 02 17:44
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz DaemonFC oh and another reason Firefox 4 is annoying, if I open it with my profile, it changes my changed user agent string each time for Firefox 3.6.16 ,but now I have removed the Firefox logo from the top panel in Gnome so :dApr 02 17:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: indeed, but that's only for that website as wellApr 02 17:45
_Goblintrue....Apr 02 17:46
schestowitzI think the following may be of interest as Linux news sites have not covered the subject of software patents recently. http://techrights.org/2011/04/02/patent-trolls-vs-rim/Apr 02 17:46
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sebsebseb_Goblin: I may eventaully have to find a proper alternative browser of some sort for Firefox, but right now out of everything I tried,  it's Firefox or Seamonkey still :)Apr 02 17:46
_Goblingo Chromium!Apr 02 17:46
sebsebseb_Goblin: noApr 02 17:46
sebsebseb_Goblin: Chromium I really dislike itApr 02 17:47
sebsebsebit's horrible the interfaceApr 02 17:47
sebsebsebit really isApr 02 17:47
sebsebsebreminds me of Internet Explorer 7 in quite a few ways as wellApr 02 17:47
sebsebsebload of stuff on the right next to the URL bar and what notApr 02 17:47
sebsebsebnot being able to bookmark like Firefox as well it seems, and that kind of thingApr 02 17:48
sebsebseb_Goblin: also like I said above, they are going to be doing the user agent stupidity with Chreomium and Chrome as wellApr 02 17:48
sebsebseb_Goblin: http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/ua-string-changes-coming-in-chrome-11.htmlApr 02 17:49
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sebsebsebhttp://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/ua-string-changes-coming-in-chrome-11.htmlApr 02 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Borrowed From Fed Discount Window at Least Five Times, Data Show http://ur1.ca/3qv6x the US of GS ;-)Apr 02 17:49
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_Goblinright....time for bed...Apr 02 17:50
_Goblingn allApr 02 17:50
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sebsebseboh so he didn't go on my link I guess then, oh wellApr 02 17:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/ua-string-changes-coming-in-chrome-11.htmlApr 02 17:50
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sebsebsebhttp://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/ua-string-changes-coming-in-chrome-11.htmlApr 02 17:50
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sebsebsebso yep going ot happen to Chromium and Chrome as well :(Apr 02 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP releases #WebOS 3.0 #SDK http://ur1.ca/3qv9d HP, with over 300,000 full-time employees, backs #Linux devApr 02 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] India's HCL launches trio of Android tablets http://ur1.ca/3qvd5 most tablets run #LinuxApr 02 17:56
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sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC Oh yeah did you see The Register's negative review of Ubuntu 11.04 Beta?Apr 02 17:59
schestowitzyesApr 02 17:59
schestowitzI RDed itApr 02 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Father of the Atom leaves #Intel http://ur1.ca/3qvg8 he might even join an ethical company, for a changeApr 02 17:59
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DaemonFCnopeApr 02 18:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: they got the bit wrong about Gnome Shell being delayed to September though, that was the GNome April fools jokeApr 02 18:00
DaemonFCI don't care what Unity does, other than I think it's stupid and totally pointless and anyone using it is an idiotApr 02 18:00
DaemonFCother than that, I don't care because I won't use itApr 02 18:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh well I think the register mentioned that s welll,  if I remember correcltyApr 02 18:00
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah training  wheel's that's what Unity isApr 02 18:00
sebsebsebthat's what a lot of the recent stuff in Ubuntu isApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebtraining wheel'sApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebthe Ubuntu Software training wheels yepApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebI started thinking of Ubuntu like this recently,  how it's got a lot of training wheels nowApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebDaemonFC: you know like on a bike when you first start to learn to ride a bike, you have training wheelsApr 02 18:01
DaemonFCUbuntu is full of spam and bloat and self-promoting crap, and now MonoApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebDaemonFC: then when you get more expereinced you don't have them anymoreApr 02 18:01
DaemonFCI have no use for their default desktopApr 02 18:01
sebsebsebso in the case of distro's Ubuntu is training wheels, but then people could move on to Mint I guess really,  or yep proper other distro's :DApr 02 18:02
schestowitzI'm such an *** I had coffee at 11 and now I can't sleepApr 02 18:02
sebsebsebDaemonFC: agreed it comes with loads of junk by defaultApr 02 18:02
sebsebseband that started when 9.04 was in development, and kept on getting worse reallyApr 02 18:03
sebsebseband 10.04 was absoulty horrible by defaultApr 02 18:03
schestowitzkubuntu was okApr 02 18:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC oh yeah the comments for that register link are pretty good as wellApr 02 18:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: Kubuntu is KDE though, and they keep their KDE very close to upstream KDEApr 02 18:03
sebsebsebso of course Kubuntu can be okApr 02 18:03
sebsebsebhowever if going to use KDE, may as well use another distro really :)Apr 02 18:04
sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC I hope The Register does more negative reviews for Ubuntu :)Apr 02 18:05
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/call-authors?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxjournalcom+%28Linux+Journal+-+The+Original+Magazine+of+the+Linux+Community%29Apr 02 18:05
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DaemonFCCon Kolivas is officially the manApr 02 18:09
DaemonFCCFS is frustratingly slowApr 02 18:09
DaemonFCeven with that autogroup nonsenseApr 02 18:09
DaemonFCmost users won't use autogroup in any way that will give them good performanceApr 02 18:10
sebsebsebDaemonFC: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/01/ubuntu1004_beta_review/Apr 02 18:10
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: and the comments :) http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/04/01/ubuntu1004_beta_review/Apr 02 18:11
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Linux Mint and Fedora are going to get pretty popular soon I think :DApr 02 18:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: DaemonFC Did you see the Lady Gaga Ubuntu April Fools that was quite goodApr 02 18:12
DaemonFCI was hoping for a reverse April Fools from UbuntuApr 02 18:12
sebsebseba reverse April Fools ?Apr 02 18:13
DaemonFCa press release saying that Unity was just a bad joke and they're going with GNOME 3 after allApr 02 18:13
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 18:13
sebsebsebDaemonFC: no, butApr 02 18:13
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Gnome had one about  Gnome 3 being delayed untill September, which was quite goodApr 02 18:13
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anyway Ubuntu 11.04 is Unity with Gnome 2 under neathApr 02 18:14
sebsebsebor as the fall back insteadApr 02 18:14
sebsebsebUbuntu 11.10 is Gnome 3, but not with Gnome Shell by default, so yep UnityApr 02 18:14
sebsebsebplus a Unity 2D made with QT as the fall backApr 02 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Religious lunatics kill #UN workers in #Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/3qvjd File under #Religion Poisons Everything. #Islam #ChristianityApr 02 18:14
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DaemonFCat least they cleaned out all the worst parts of GTK+Apr 02 18:15
sebsebsebDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqw94Yrsnjs&feature=channel_video_titleApr 02 18:15
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sebsebseba video someone gave the link to last nightApr 02 18:15
sebsebsebquite good as wellApr 02 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: RT @switch2mac: Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?Apr 02 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Selintellect: Those living in poverty are denied their rights of living .... Any poverty includes the deprivation of human rights.Apr 02 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @lamm They are nuts but so was the bloke in USA asked not to burn Koran. But no harm done he says it was not his fault :-(Apr 02 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: On #Quora, you're allowed to copy & paste from Wikipedia, but deletionist dickheads will be all over you if you LINK there.Apr 02 18:16
*sebsebseb notices schestowitz getting addicted to Identica again!Apr 02 18:17
DaemonFCIdenticrackApr 02 18:18
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 18:18
DaemonFC"OS X with complications"Apr 02 18:27
DaemonFCgood description for UnityApr 02 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #capitalism is a system whereby the alphas convince the epsilons to buy the things epsilons have made at a huge loss. #economicsApr 02 18:31
DaemonFCUnity is an OS X ripoff in most waysApr 02 18:37
DaemonFCthe most important being you can't right click on anythingApr 02 18:37
DaemonFCthe biggest difference is the dock on on the left for some reasonApr 02 18:37
ender2071they wanted to one-up the gnome devsApr 02 18:38
DaemonFCnobody has done that before because it makes no sense at allApr 02 18:38
ender2071the gnome devs remove features, canonical removes right clickApr 02 18:38
DaemonFCMinceR can finally use his magic mouse to full potentialApr 02 18:38
DaemonFChooray!Apr 02 18:38
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nigeria put their bankers in prison #shiningexampleApr 02 18:39
DaemonFCI think The Register is too kindApr 02 18:40
DaemonFCthey seem to suggest that there's a possibility that Unity can improveApr 02 18:40
DaemonFCdoes this mean that I don't get my million dollars from the Nigerian prince?Apr 02 18:42
DaemonFCdamnApr 02 18:42
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nigerian central bank chief needs armed guard #nosurpriseApr 02 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I think that @supertunaman sucks. Just sayin'Apr 02 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nigerian central bank chief wonders why Europe has not acted #EUApr 02 18:44
sebsebsebDaemonFC: heh I guessApr 02 18:52
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anyway after looking at Google I want an Ice Cream SundaeApr 02 18:52
DaemonFCright after you go tell the Nigerian prince that I want my moneyApr 02 18:53
DaemonFCand make sure he "gets the message"Apr 02 18:53
*DaemonFC rubs hands togetherApr 02 18:53
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ok well look at the Google homepageApr 02 18:54
DaemonFCsame as alwaysApr 02 18:55
DaemonFChttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=43645Apr 02 19:09
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DaemonFCthat's what you get when you make a flash video go fullscreen using the free radeon driverApr 02 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Freedom Watch: Libya + WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/fw2onApr 02 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @FOSSpatents Suggest you add Bing +1 button to your blog, after all we all know that Microsoft never, never, ever breaks any laws. #sarcasmApr 02 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good case for video cameras in cars. - http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/Video.aspx?videoid=af53d2ac-f507-4e8d-983a-a5a259bbe6fcApr 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @themadhatter @FOSSpatents Suggest you add Bing +1 button to your blog, after all we all know that Microsoft never, never, ever break ...Apr 02 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jkoblovsky: Conservative Candidate John Baird calls women a fool for asking questions on contempt issue: http://bit.ly/fKKogy #elxn41Apr 02 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymissLegion: #FF @Anon_Sunlight @FeaR_Anonymous @GuySoft @GuidoPuddi @GroupAnon @hushhush812 @3arabawy @iRevolt @ioerrorApr 02 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Headin' north with @huertanix . Donno what I'm up to tonight, though, lol.Apr 02 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Amazing machines! http://www.cracked.com/article_19096_7-terrifying-pieces-large-machinery.html (via @colinq)Apr 02 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] “I’m not too familiar with it. Maybe you can tell me more?” when Woz was aked about Creative Technologies. No surprises! http://ur1.ca/3qyioApr 02 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What a great and refreshing Singaporean duo! Well done! http://www.youtube.com/user/MunahHirziOfficialApr 02 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Hahaa! Den här var ju riktigt bra! Hyfsat trolig story, och snyggt framlagd. http://ur1.ca/3qymg #filmtipset #aprilapril #3d #trafikApr 02 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Oooh, #thinkgeek has Real3D-compatible 2D glasses! !lo http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/e8be/ /via http://ur1.ca/3qyn4Apr 02 21:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.35.12-libre3-lemote binaries for !yeeloong !gnewsense/mipsel now available, with a lot more driversApr 02 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] finally got home after a whole day of driving. #tombsweepingday !China. left home at 5:30. 15:00 back home... did also visit some stores ;-)Apr 02 23:56
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/70292165Apr 02 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Sunday, 03-Apr-11 01:23:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Bloody hell try changing anything in Wikipedia. Who has the time to carry it through, it is like MS they were there first.Apr 02 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the rest of the day for coding!Apr 02 23:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Dragon Age II plot is truly remarkable. Very different as far as an RPG is concerned. I like it!Apr 02 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents #FUD a Sign That Microsoft is Losing, Linux is Winning http://ur1.ca/3q7rm #swpatsApr 02 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Software Patents FUD a Sign That #Microsoft is Losing, #Linux is Winning http://ur1.ca/3q7rm #android #fudApr 02 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Good video interview with Assange on Underground, WikiLeaks, revolutions http://is.gd/O25Df8 http://bit.ly/gMwAvVApr 02 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] http://bit.ly/f5C1M4 "A wake-up call on Windows 7 migration" - Also a wake up call for the German Auswertige Amt to reconsider !gnu/!linux?Apr 02 00:19
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GoForbes28I was actually a little disapointed with the Google April Fools this yearApr 02 00:26
GoForbes28Opera did a similar joke last year with facial gesturesApr 02 00:26
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DaemonFCyou cringe and it goes to www.microsoft.com/ie?Apr 02 00:33
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 00:33
DaemonFChttp://skynet.kernel.org/?reconnect=2Apr 02 00:34
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MinceR:)Apr 02 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Ball of twine ... It's multi-purpose." ~ Varric, #DAIIApr 02 00:44
DaemonFCMinceR, Linux 2.6.39 is also puking on Ubuntu's AppArmor patchesApr 02 00:44
DaemonFCwhich I made sure to cherry pick from their 2.6.39 treeApr 02 00:44
DaemonFCso now I'm building it without AppArmor supportApr 02 00:45
DaemonFC:PApr 02 00:45
DaemonFCI still believe it was a mistake to accept AppArmor into the kernel if they were only going to implement enough of it to load and complain that it wasn't going to load profiles with network rulesApr 02 00:45
DaemonFCand that your userspace tools are broken (there aren't any "not broken" userspace tools that I can find) :)Apr 02 00:46
DaemonFCso the AppArmor that's in the kernel is useless and you either need out of tree patches to make it shut up and work, or to just disable it so it can't load and fill your kernel log with its bitchingApr 02 00:47
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 00:47
DaemonFCwhich defeats the point of being _in the kernel_ because that kind of implies that it will do something without fetching someone's patches and hoping they're new enough to apply against the kernel you are trying to buildApr 02 00:48
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 00:48
DaemonFCmy belief is that something should be "working" before it goes into the kernel in the first placeApr 02 00:49
DaemonFCnot just there to deceive people into believing it's supported, end of story :)Apr 02 00:49
DaemonFCin the current state AppArmor is in, without Canonical and Novell up someone's ass, I'd be surprised if it was even in the staging treeApr 02 00:50
DaemonFCseeing as how it won't do _anything at all_Apr 02 00:50
DaemonFC:DApr 02 00:50
DaemonFCthe special treatment at work here is alarmingApr 02 00:51
DaemonFCCanonical and Novell apparently have enough pull to throw non-functional crap into the mainline kernel and then wander off and not fix itApr 02 00:52
MinceRhttp://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6217.txtApr 02 00:52
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DaemonFCMinceR, AppArmor isn't terrible, but it's easier to turn it off than to try to keep it working with a vanilla kernelApr 02 00:52
DaemonFCwhich claims it worksApr 02 00:53
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 00:53
DaemonFCthose claims are utter bullshit in case I haven't made myself clear enoughApr 02 00:53
DaemonFC /rantApr 02 00:53
DaemonFC:DApr 02 00:53
DaemonFCwell, one more dig, why not?Apr 02 00:54
DaemonFCAppArmor without Canonical patches: "ZOMG, Warning, Warning, danger Will Robinson, that profile does not compute!Apr 02 00:55
DaemonFCB-)Apr 02 00:55
DaemonFCMinceR, You ever wonder how this horrible crap makes its way into the kernel?Apr 02 00:56
DaemonFCReiserFS shouldn't be there, but at least it does workApr 02 00:56
DaemonFC(another example of Suse and arm twisting)Apr 02 00:56
DaemonFCso they get Linus to lob it into the kernel, right? Then THEY stop fucking using it after my dad has already got a very entangled partition setup involving NTFS, ReiserFS, a /boot that wound up on ext3 some how, and so onApr 02 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. The Qun demands it.Apr 02 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @themadhatter Greatest (or worst, take your pick) thing is the irony. Being ethical is just that. It does not need an award like a parolee.Apr 02 00:57
DaemonFCthen his hard drive starts going out and *I* am the one to fix it, MinceR I amApr 02 00:58
DaemonFCI never EVER want to see ReiserFS again, EVER!Apr 02 00:58
DaemonFChe should be in prison for thatApr 02 00:58
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 00:58
DaemonFCWhy in the name of all that is good, why? Why!?!? would Linus merge a file system with that kind of grotesque dependence on the big kernel lock? One that doesn't scale to multiprocessor systems?Apr 02 00:59
DaemonFCOne that does things like say "Repair internal tree structure" and wipes out your data without warning?Apr 02 01:00
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 01:00
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DaemonFCMinceR, ReiserFS is worthy of all your hate that seems directed at XFSApr 02 01:00
DaemonFCBecause ReiserFS actually does suckApr 02 01:01
DaemonFCit does eat your dataApr 02 01:01
DaemonFCand it does...not...SCALEApr 02 01:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 01:01
MinceRi don't think i've ever used reiserfsApr 02 01:01
DaemonFCdo yourself a favor, don'tApr 02 01:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 01:01
DaemonFCMinceR, There's people using XFSApr 02 01:02
DaemonFCbut Ext4 performs better on typical PC hardwareApr 02 01:03
DaemonFCXFS pulls ahead on systems with lots of processor coresApr 02 01:03
DaemonFCXFS destroys Ext4 on the threaded I/O benchmarks with 8 core CPUsApr 02 01:04
DaemonFCthat's the kind of people that should be using itApr 02 01:04
DaemonFCnow, what XFS is not known for is fast metadata operations, so batch deleting a shitload of header files, like deleting a kernel tree is painfulApr 02 01:05
DaemonFCbut delaylog and logbufs=8 speeds it along a littleApr 02 01:05
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 01:06
DaemonFCI learned that the hard way on my other system when I went to clean up my first kernel tree with itApr 02 01:06
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DaemonFChmmmmApr 02 01:33
DaemonFCdesktop effects are actually a lot slower on FGLRX than the latest free driversApr 02 01:33
DaemonFC(and choppier)Apr 02 01:33
DaemonFCwonder if fullscreen Trash still kills the driverApr 02 01:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh well done on the accent in English in the latest ep, I tip my hat to you sirApr 02 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] On our way to First friday. Zombies and stuff. Yeah.Apr 02 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke That's good; just the problem has become it doesn't even matter if you are in the right; allegations or lawsuits are used to "chill"Apr 02 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] BBC News - 10 stories that could be April Fools pranks but aren't: http://wmk.me/eOlrxvApr 02 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz See Wiki article on Dvorak.comApr 02 02:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 53 million downloads on 2011-04-02 01:22 UTCApr 02 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms <http://identi.ca/rms>: Urgent: Oppose Arctic Drilling http://ur1.ca/3qb27 [70238129] <http://ur1.ca/3qbq0>Apr 02 02:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Laurie: Improving SSL certificate security http://lwn.net/Articles/436641/rssApr 02 02:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] By merely bolstering the weaker side, we are prolonging Libya's civil war. http://is.gd/3m9iRb #violenceApr 02 03:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ArethaFranklin is one of the truly effortless singersApr 02 03:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[amarsh04/@amarsh04] np: Joe Hisaishi "Asian X.T.C." albumApr 02 03:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Fifa's latest attempts at helping world peace http://is.gd/bZBxULApr 02 03:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] who are the Electronic Privacy Information Center? http://is.gd/eStivFApr 02 03:32
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amarsh04afternoon, oiaohm, another weekend of kernel git-bisectingApr 02 03:51
amarsh04I'm almost inclined to put a MIDI playback in my startup scrip just to check if anything breaks proper playback in new kernelsApr 02 03:54
amarsh04s/scrip/script/Apr 02 03:54
oiaohmamarsh04: that is one of the issues.  There is not a good way to place a auto testsuite on drivers.Apr 02 03:56
amarsh04true, so the people that use the drivers and who want to contribute to maintaining them need to figure out their own testsApr 02 03:59
amarsh04and that causes much re-inventing of wheels, some of them non-roundApr 02 03:59
amarsh04time for a rebootApr 02 03:59
oiaohmamarsh04: Problem is the real hardware requirement.Apr 02 03:59
amarsh04that tooApr 02 04:00
oiaohmAnd substandard protuction out there.Apr 02 04:00
amarsh04even if you own the hardware, you need some good testsApr 02 04:00
amarsh04back in a fewApr 02 04:00
oiaohmIe you might own x card that works perfectly.Apr 02 04:00
amarsh04and a slight varient failsApr 02 04:01
amarsh04whether by component tolerances or slipstreaming of different components into identically identified devicesApr 02 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Score: #Angels 1, #Royals 2. They even their series at 1 win each. #LABaseball #baseball http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/laaApr 02 04:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @kathleenogrady Remind me again why healthcare hasn't been major issue in !elxn41? Next gov likely determines future direction for healthApr 02 05:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Set up free Internet access in the Hospitality Suite of the FilKONtario 21 Filk Convention using Bodhi Linux 1.0.0 on an Acer Notebook.Apr 02 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] And the #baseball game ends. SF #Giants 3, LA #Dodgers 4. A semi-happy day for #LABaseball as the #Angels lose and the Dodgers win.Apr 02 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Former USA president Jimmy Carter visits Cuba. http://is.gd/9FLMEd !CubanewsApr 02 06:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] NL: Hoe @linuxmagnl mij hielp - deel 2 - http://ur1.ca/3qep3Apr 02 07:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On Windows users: "Recognizing that many of us are sometimes forced to use legacy operating systems" <well said ;-) https://one.ubuntu.com/Apr 02 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] updating my Debian machine. Guess I'll have to reboot it (kernel updated). Or not.Apr 02 07:37
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/67930152#notice-70232983 http://identi.ca/notice/70232983Apr 02 07:48
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TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Friday, 01-Apr-11 23:12:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ok, gonna write about it then... Thanks a lot. ;-)Apr 02 07:48
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/61682694Apr 02 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 07-Jan-11 05:21:13 UTC - Identi.ca: Wayne Borean Explains Why #Microsoft May be Heading Towards Bankruptcy http://is.gd/kh7iw  // don't believe *everything* that's in the newsApr 02 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity Gwibber Lens (Place) For Ubuntu 11.04 http://bit.ly/e39cDYApr 02 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] News About OpenSUSE 11.4, Possibly the Last #OpenSUSE Release http://ur1.ca/3qfus #novell #suseApr 02 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] News About OpenSUSE 11.4, Possibly the Last !OpenSUSE Release http://ur1.ca/3qfus #gnu #linux #ballnuxApr 02 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Leeching More, Creating Less http://ur1.ca/3qg34 #sco #redhat #libreofficeApr 02 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell Leeching More, Creating Less http://ur1.ca/3qg34 #novl #rht #openoffice #scoxApr 02 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm in the #Guardian; the Ipad qualifies for computing section and an !android tablet is in the gadgets section.Apr 02 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] at the Hungarian !Ubuntu Global Jam, Budapest...Apr 02 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Osborne! - http://bit.ly/fssv0r splendid piece on the man & his unforgettable CP/M portable (I remember it well...) #computing #historyApr 02 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Discussions About #Scarcity vs. #Abundance In Copyright From A Century Ago Sound Just Like Those Today - http://bit.ly/dRK5c0 extraordinaryApr 02 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] How To Upgrade To Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal (With Or Without An Internet Connection) http://bit.ly/fSRihCApr 02 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Verjess Babylon en dat midde Durm, ejal waddet koss, noch bin ich de Boss...." LOLApr 02 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @snugris: wifi is indeed everywhere in Tokyo, Thx to #FON. I can even use my devices at my car dealer working on the presentation deck..Apr 02 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] CP: DOWN by Spamtron on DPAD [Amarok2].Apr 02 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] So.... Tempe has CRAP and TBAG for bicyclist movements. Wow, guys, really?Apr 02 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: The real boss http://goo.gl/IKA5KApr 02 11:46
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schestowitztessier: the connection is now persistent and good for IRC :-) can you mail over the irc logs for the 3 channels logged since last month? I need to post logs for transparency.Apr 02 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity Gwibber Lens (Place) For !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/11yzxApr 02 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: How To Upgrade To !Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal (With Or Without An Internet Connection) http://goo.gl/r25mQApr 02 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Why are we investing in a closed encryption system again? #rsa Why are we letting shit like http://ur1.ca/3qkzl happeN?Apr 02 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Kupfer (v205) Gets A New User Interface. Finally! http://goo.gl/WPEiKApr 02 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Five neat changes in today’s !Unity update http://goo.gl/aJE9KApr 02 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Elementary pre-order update & exclusive peek at disc artwork http://goo.gl/J9jUtApr 02 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: #Gmail Motion - The Future of Email is Here! http://goo.gl/XlejaApr 02 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design blog: #Narwhal spotted at Lambeth Bridge http://goo.gl/Y38Zx !ubuntuApr 02 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Manish Sinha: !Android Camp Bangalore http://goo.gl/YAIEeApr 02 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nice write up http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=110329%2FCricketApr 02 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sergio Zanchetta: !Ubuntu #Natty Beta 1 is out. It’s time to test your Laptop! http://goo.gl/TU5foApr 02 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Didier Roche: Message from !GNOME release team well received http://goo.gl/6GF97Apr 02 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Major regression in !Unity: No fish! http://goo.gl/0ILdr !ubuntuApr 02 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jason Smith: Death to critical !Unity bugs http://goo.gl/iGb15Apr 02 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Malcolm Turnbull on WikiLeaks http://is.gd/jPw1WWApr 02 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 54 million downloads on 2011-04-02 12:32 UTCApr 02 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Focusing On The Copy Part Of #Copyright Doesn't Make Much Sense In Today's World - http://bit.ly/gjiFEf it's about authenticityApr 02 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Pinguy OS 11.04 Alpha 1 Is Available For Testing http://bit.ly/fxRkoVApr 02 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Marketing End-game http://goo.gl/owicrApr 02 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #GoDaddy CEO: Elephants are "a valuable source of protein" - http://bit.ly/e0t7TB "Well, by that logic, so are CEOs." ha!Apr 02 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Looking at freelicio.us - looks good, but no link-blog facility so I'm still stuck using delicious.Apr 02 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Another Look At The Open-Source Nouveau With Fermi: Earlier this week was benchmarks of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 4... http://bit.ly/fSJR9yApr 02 14:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] C'mon you reds !!! win the game now !UnitedApr 02 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Tilting the playing field: http://wp.me/pj2fj-oEApr 02 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Get in !!! Don't concede now !mufcApr 02 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] What fucking what fucking what to all you ABU wankers. 4 goals in 15 mins. One love One !UnitedApr 02 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden 4-2 !United. Fucking brilliant team performance.Apr 02 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Enjoying the sun and 25°C. Just fixed up the bicycles for the summer...Apr 02 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "We'll never die we'll never die we'll keep the red flag flying high cos ManUtd will never die" sings the !United away endApr 02 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @eebrah @RebelAlliancePR: GF does great #DarthVader impression. though, I don't recall him saying "Please... give me back... my inhaler"Apr 02 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know how well !Ubuntu Natty works with !Dropbox - on account of having different Nautilus?Apr 02 14:56
twitterHere's a funny .NET fail.  http://www.todaysbigthing.com/music/2009/11/03Apr 02 14:57
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twitterno, that's the wrong linkApr 02 14:57
twitterhmmmApr 02 14:57
twitterhttp://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2011-02.html#e2011-02-19T13_00_54.txtApr 02 14:57
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twitterthat's the right linkApr 02 14:57
twitterif you want to see the music video, you have to Google it and find it on YouTube.  Apr 02 14:58
twitterThe .NET fail is more entertaining.Apr 02 14:58
twitterThe ISP Fairpoint Communications made the mistake of using .NET and C pound pound your head for billing services.Apr 02 14:59
twitterScreenshots and a summary of conversations with support staff are included.  The RSS is easier to read than the blog, but I'm not sure how to link to individual RSS items.Apr 02 15:01
lightpriestI once tried to book a flight with and got a tomcat traceApr 02 15:02
twitterHere's what the blogger has to say, " I just got a letter from Fairpoint Communications that my payment didn't go through for insufficient funds.  Thankfully, I had written down a tech support number that actually works the last time I had problems with them.  When I got the tech on the phone, he said that their billing system has been having a lot of problems lately and that I could pay over the phone on Monday.  I asked him why I couldnApr 02 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Where are the famous indian cricket fans now ? Support your team you glory hunting twatsApr 02 15:03
schestowitzc pound pound?Apr 02 15:04
schestowitzc hash?Apr 02 15:04
twitterC## can be read as C pound pound in US EnglishApr 02 15:04
schestowitzwhy two hashes?Apr 02 15:05
twitterAt least one start up reports that putting .NET on a resume is more damaging than nothingApr 02 15:05
schestowitzand also, could the system have failed due to bad programming?Apr 02 15:05
twitterthe two pounds is just me making fun of C sharpApr 02 15:06
lightpriestschestowitz: it mostly does, but have you tried figuring out something out of MSDN?Apr 02 15:06
schestowitzIt's pronounced like spitApr 02 15:06
schestowitzC shar*spit*Apr 02 15:06
MinceRlightpriest: i haveApr 02 15:06
twitterThe system might very well have failed due to bad programming, but the code is six years old and it's more likely that some kind of .NET "upgrade" brought it down.Apr 02 15:06
lightpriestI once had to look up something, it's all one big messApr 02 15:07
MinceRso i know what passes for "documentation" in m$ landApr 02 15:07
schestowitzclick or failApr 02 15:07
schestowitzI remember from win98Apr 02 15:07
twitterif the problem was self inflicted, Fairpoint could have fixed it by nowApr 02 15:08
schestowitzI wasted days just trying to pass files across PCs (to Linux) cause Windows would not "see" it and you just had to retry for hours until 'magically' it would appearApr 02 15:08
schestowitzNo command-line, no status codes, nothing... just stupid GUI that failsApr 02 15:08
schestowitztwitter: fixing Microsoft?!Apr 02 15:09
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 15:09
schestowitzI'd rather see it breakApr 02 15:09
twitterWell, the ISP would obviously be collecting the money owed it instead of fooling around with a broken billing systemApr 02 15:09
twittergood luck to them porting the information out so that they can start charging their users again with a more reasonable billing systemApr 02 15:10
schestowitzLike what?Apr 02 15:15
twitterI'm don't know about billing systems but there has got to be a better way than asking Microsoft, perhaps they can give IBM or Red Hat a call.Apr 02 15:21
twitterBig dumb company insistence on using Microsoft for customer facing systems baffles me.  Apr 02 15:22
twitterBill Gates and other Microsoft people have a lot of money to throw around to make that happen, but few other investors can be thrilled by Microsoft use.Apr 02 15:24
twitterThen again, Microsoft is such a commonly owned pyramid scheme stock.  I wonder if people's fear that their investment might be worthless drives them to spend all sorts of money on software that does not work well.Apr 02 15:28
twitterRichard Stallman points out that North Carolina is propping up the infotainment conglomerate cable companies by making it difficult to set up muni networks.Apr 02 15:30
twitterfrom his political notes -> "North Carolina has halfway approved a law to prohibit cities from setting up nonprofit ISPs to improve Internet access. Apr 02 15:30
twitter By voting for this, the North Carolina assembly has demonstrated that it is an organ of the corporate empire, not a legitimate government."Apr 02 15:30
twitterhe points to http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/30/north-carolina-bill-would-prohibit-cities-from-upgrading-internet-access/Apr 02 15:30
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twitterBell South and Cox tied up Lafayette, Louisiana with lawsuits for years when they tried to build a muni network.Apr 02 15:32
twitterA person with an impressive CV thinks that OSX package management is terrible and OSX is a very bad platform for web development.  http://teddziuba.com/2011/03/osx-unsuitable-web-development.htmlApr 02 15:34
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twitterthe reasons are purely technical but they are all a result of OSX not being free softwareApr 02 15:35
oiaohmtwitter: Lot of MacOS X issues are the same as using freebsd as well.Apr 02 15:36
oiaohmSo it is not just that OS X is not free software.Apr 02 15:36
oiaohmIts that it lacks market share in Web.Apr 02 15:36
twitterthe author notes that, but bsd at least has reasonable package managementApr 02 15:36
twitterthe bigger issue, for him, is that most web servers are gnu/linux so you need things like fink to do development for it on OSX.  Apr 02 15:37
twitterOSX's lack of freedom makes reasonable package management impossible, even if the your web server is OSX.Apr 02 15:38
oiaohmHosting costs.Apr 02 15:38
oiaohmJust like finding BSD hosting.Apr 02 15:39
oiaohmMost cases BSD hosting is more than Linux.Apr 02 15:39
twitterI can always count on ohm to defend non free software by distraction Apr 02 15:39
oiaohmNo twitter.Apr 02 15:39
twitterargue with the authro http://teddziuba.com/vitae.htmlApr 02 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Fuckall wankhede crowd. All pissing in their pants and fucking dropping their heads once a couple of players get out.Apr 02 15:40
oiaohmReally this is a case that Linux has basically won one battle.Apr 02 15:40
oiaohmAnd as Linux wins more issues caused by not using it will get higher.Apr 02 15:40
twitterI wonder why? har har.Apr 02 15:40
oiaohmYou forget darwin from Apple early on.  Open source low cost and basically died from lack of developers.Apr 02 15:41
oiaohmThat is why your arguement that open source is the linked issue is kinda dead.Apr 02 15:42
twittermost developers prefer copy left, it's good for business Apr 02 15:42
oiaohmNow that is getting to a better agruement.Apr 02 15:42
twitterthis is why most software is published as gplApr 02 15:42
oiaohmMore likely to be more valid.Apr 02 15:42
oiaohmtwitter: I just pull you up when you have missed something in your assessment.Apr 02 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 459 tser : Routine wing-scouting mission gets... odd http://bit.ly/fYg7Oa #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitApr 02 15:43
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twitteryou nit pick to discredit, ohm.  I don't have all day to please you.Apr 02 15:43
oiaohmBSD Darwin and OS X all have 1 thing in common.  There licence does not protect developer from being back stabed.Apr 02 15:43
twitterpeople can see what you do.Apr 02 15:44
oiaohmYou call it nit picking.  Issue here is minor errors lead to completely the wrong assessments.  twitterApr 02 15:44
schestowitzDo what?Apr 02 15:44
schestowitztwitter: he's fine, he's just not one-sidedApr 02 15:45
schestowitzhe also has accurate assessments a lot of the timeApr 02 15:45
twitteraccurate but distracting, it irritates Apr 02 15:46
twitteranother irritant http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/03/30/35363.htmApr 02 15:46
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oiaohmYou lack of accuracy irritates me at times too.  TechrightsBot-trApr 02 15:46
oiaohmOpps twitterApr 02 15:46
twitterwhat did I say that was wrong, ohm?Apr 02 15:47
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oiaohmThe idea that the problem was just coming from not being free software.   Why OS X is doing so bad for web development.Apr 02 15:48
oiaohmWindows does better at web development compared to OS X.  Market share is a factor.   Quality of solution is also a major factor.Apr 02 15:49
oiaohmHow bad OS X is handling on web development is what I hope happens to Windows in time in other areas as Linux market share grows.  twitterApr 02 15:50
twitterwindows boosting, ohm?  more distraction.  If OSX were free software it would look like gnu/linux.  It's not an issue of popularity, it's an issue of freedom.Apr 02 15:51
oiaohmProblem is for a time its server darwin was free software.  twitterApr 02 15:51
oiaohmDid not change its fate one bit.Apr 02 15:51
oiaohmSmall market share limited hardware support so it was basically dead on arrival.Apr 02 15:52
twitterdarwin, obviously had owners that locked the community out, why blame freedom for it's failure other than to distract?Apr 02 15:52
oiaohmNo hardware makers never got interested in darwin.Apr 02 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lady Gaga goes gaga over !Ubuntu - LXer « Kind of strange story but still http://ping.fm/vFzLYApr 02 15:53
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twitterhardware maker interest is not what made gnu/linux what it is.  vendor interest and cooperation is helpful but Linux grew up withtout them and still overcomes even the most hostile of them.Apr 02 15:54
twitterfreedom and copyleft made Linux and gnu/linuxApr 02 15:54
oiaohmLinux did grow because of a hardware need.Apr 02 15:54
twitterlack of it is undoing other OSApr 02 15:54
oiaohmfreedom and copyleft of Linux put it in exactly the right place as super computer become more common.   Along with the .net boomApr 02 15:55
twittermore pollution news http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1828&category=EnvironmentApr 02 15:55
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twitter300 of Gulf Shores' 2,500 people are sick because of the BP drilling disaster Apr 02 15:56
oiaohmLinux allows a lot of hardware makers into the super game that were locked out of it or having there features pinched from bsd sources and placed in there competitions.  twitterApr 02 15:56
oiaohmLinux is one of those OS's that was just in the right place at the right time with the right license.Apr 02 15:57
oiaohmTrying to displace it now by anyone would be a very up hill battle.Apr 02 15:57
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oiaohmWe all of course wish MS was never in the right place with dos and something else open source was.Apr 02 15:58
oiaohmtwitter: Its very simple to forget how many years head start BSD had on Linux yet was making quite min market pentration and hardware support.Apr 02 16:00
oiaohmThe what if BSD had Like a GPL license is quite a interesting one.  twitterApr 02 16:00
MinceRtwitter: GNU/Linux lacks most of not all of the design flaws that define OSuXApr 02 16:01
MinceRs/of/if/Apr 02 16:02
oiaohmAlso something lot of people are not aware of.  Particular parts Linux kernel uses.  Due to patent licenses must remain under GPLv2 or latter.Apr 02 16:03
oiaohmReason why you don't find IBM's RCU that is used in AIX and Linux in OS X or Windows.Apr 02 16:03
oiaohmYes GPL has been more acceptable to hardware makers than BSD has been.Apr 02 16:04
MinceRthat's sadApr 02 16:05
MinceRwhat's RCU?Apr 02 16:05
twitterit would be very nice to see the Linux kernel move to gpl3Apr 02 16:06
oiaohmRead Copy Update.   Its a way of syncing data between many cores/threads without taking massive performance hits waiting in spin locks.Apr 02 16:07
twitterthat would stop a lot of nonsense Apr 02 16:07
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MinceRindeed it wouldApr 02 16:08
oiaohmUnlikely patent section of GPLv3 not really required.  Linux kernel does have huge patent pools already.Apr 02 16:08
MinceRbut if what oiaohm says is true then it won't be possible for a whileApr 02 16:08
MinceRoiaohm: yet m$ goes suing linux-using hw companies.Apr 02 16:08
MinceRand no countersuit is in sight.Apr 02 16:09
twitterUS efforts at Alaskan oil drilling are laughably insane.  This article pretends an investment in Coast Guard ice breakers would make everything safe there as if ice or lack of Coast Guard is why Deepwater Horizon spewed like it did.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ig_Sox25wAcsxe6kAUZDBQW2rkCQ?docId=CNG.30a945d880fb0c467a82e584423dac3f.21Apr 02 16:09
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MinceRso those patent pools aren't helping much, are they?Apr 02 16:09
oiaohmMinceR: watch what they are sueing on.Apr 02 16:09
twitterpatent pools are harmfulApr 02 16:09
twitterthe solution is to eliminate patentsApr 02 16:09
oiaohmMinceR: MS basically never attacks the Linux kernel itself.Apr 02 16:09
oiaohmMinceR:  and a lot of libraries above that.Apr 02 16:10
twittersomeone big sold out to a big patent troll the other day ... PJ spotted it.Apr 02 16:10
oiaohmMinceR: since that would basically be death wish.Apr 02 16:10
twitterhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2038989/rim-hands-patents#ixzz1IJ6OlRRIApr 02 16:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rim gets its hands on 30,000 patents- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 58.65 KBApr 02 16:11
twitterRIM paid off ntellectual VenturesApr 02 16:11
twitterThe Inquirer has a funny way of reporting extortion as a positive thing.Apr 02 16:12
MinceRtwitter: the elimination of patents is nowhere in sightApr 02 16:12
MinceRtwitter: free software needs to survival till that happens, somehowApr 02 16:12
twitterfrom the Inquirer -> " This means RIM can get its mitts on technology without fear of patent lawsuits and thus avoid legal complications with other hardware makers."Apr 02 16:13
twitterhow disgustingApr 02 16:13
twitterpatent troll as protectorApr 02 16:13
oiaohmLOL Intellectual Ventures does not have key ones.Apr 02 16:13
twitterno one has key patents, they just have lawyers, money and threats Apr 02 16:13
oiaohmA few companies do.Apr 02 16:14
twitterthe patents themselves are all empty because software patents are emptyApr 02 16:14
twitterthere's no more merit to Amazon's one click patent than there is to the old "fat line" patents. Apr 02 16:14
oiaohmArm, Motorola and IBM.  All are sitting on key patents to RIM on going existance.Apr 02 16:15
twittername oneApr 02 16:15
oiaohmPlease note they are not sitting on software patents.Apr 02 16:15
twittershow me one software patent that's an actual invention instead of a business method or mathApr 02 16:15
oiaohmThey are sitting on chip design and construction patents.Apr 02 16:15
twitterso what does IV have to counter that besides bluster?Apr 02 16:16
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twitterUS patents are insaneApr 02 16:16
oiaohmPool of software patents is basically worthless without the hardware patents preventing it being done in hardware.Apr 02 16:16
oiaohmSame with vice verser.Apr 02 16:17
gnufreexoiaohm same patent can be used for hw and swApr 02 16:17
oiaohmgnufreex: Not all cases.Apr 02 16:17
gnufreexoiahom: If you have vague enough patent, it can. But those are harder to get.Apr 02 16:19
gnufreexThere is nothing that says "this is SW patent" Apr 02 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting: http://is.gd/Prb6UW, Note: our #recommendation for FUDCon EMEA is #Milan (not a final result!)Apr 02 16:20
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gnufreexIt just needs to be unspecific.Apr 02 16:20
oiaohmThere is a problem with unspecific.Apr 02 16:20
gnufreexAnd then owner can sue both hardware and software implementations. Apr 02 16:20
oiaohmTo a point gnufreexApr 02 16:21
oiaohmNow if owner who is sueing has what MS has with motorola where attacked stands ground attacker can find self in very big trouble.Apr 02 16:21
oiaohmNot only do they risk losing they risk being in contempt of court and losing sections of there legal teams for good.Apr 02 16:22
gnufreexProblem with vague patents is that they are easier to invalidate.Apr 02 16:23
oiaohmYes the put up to display your implementation of the patent before the judge.Apr 02 16:23
gnufreexAnd also harder to get in first placeApr 02 16:23
gnufreexIt needs to be something really new.Apr 02 16:23
oiaohmIBM system of take out a proper patent.Apr 02 16:23
oiaohmThen ring it in defense documents that are vague.Apr 02 16:23
gnufreexIf there is prior art, USPTO asks to narow down the claims.Apr 02 16:24
gnufreexANd then it becomes more specific.Apr 02 16:24
oiaohmNote defense documents fall under prior art.Apr 02 16:24
oiaohmYes its simpler to destroy a reach of a patent then to defend a patent.Apr 02 16:24
oiaohmFor every 1 patent ibm takes out there are about 20 to 30 defensive documents.Apr 02 16:25
oiaohmSo even if you do invalid date ibms patent the defensive documents stop yours.Apr 02 16:25
oiaohmRecent change the the USA will also reduce patents.Apr 02 16:26
oiaohmFirst to file.Apr 02 16:26
oiaohmCan get the patent.Apr 02 16:26
oiaohmNow if you invented before the other person you only option will be to invalidate the patent.Apr 02 16:26
gnufreexThat asumes that everything will be patentedApr 02 16:27
twitterOh please, ohm.  First to file won't prevent duplicate patents any more than the current system does.  Apr 02 16:27
gnufreexUSPTO barely checks prior art, just prior patents Apr 02 16:28
gnufreexSo if someone invents something and doesn't patentApr 02 16:28
gnufreexSomeone can patent itApr 02 16:28
twitterUSPTO does a poor job of prior patent searches tooApr 02 16:28
oiaohmtwitter: No but if you can find a prior patent the new rule means the later patent gets deleted straight up.Apr 02 16:28
oiaohmtwitter: Instead of the current process where you end up with a dispute over who invented first.Apr 02 16:29
twitteryou assume competence but all evidence is against thatApr 02 16:29
oiaohmAlso the USPTO is starting to get desperate.Apr 02 16:29
oiaohmAt the rate patent backlogs are growing.Apr 02 16:29
twitterFirst to file will simply validate empty patent filings by big rich companies that have no working inventions.  Apr 02 16:30
oiaohminside 6 years the backlog for new patents may be longer than the patents live span.Apr 02 16:30
twitterFirst to file will encourage a flood of stupid patents that should never be filed.  It won't fix the backlog it will make it worse. Apr 02 16:30
oiaohmYep.  twitterApr 02 16:31
gnufreexchinese will file mostApr 02 16:31
twitterElimination of software and business patent patents is a start, but I lean towards scrapping all patents. Apr 02 16:31
gnufreexAnd then Chinese will bring USA to standstillApr 02 16:31
oiaohmEven Elimination of software and business patents still will not stop the growing rate of patents.Apr 02 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Gave my talk on Why Free Software Isn't Better at Özgür Yazılım ve Linux Günleri (Free Software and Linux Days) in Istanbul!Apr 02 16:31
gnufreexOr make them drop the patentsApr 02 16:31
oiaohmRemember about 80 percent of the growth covers medical and hardware patents.  twitterApr 02 16:32
oiaohmSimple point the patent system is going to basically implode on itself unless something radical is done.Apr 02 16:32
gnufreexProblem is that it wontApr 02 16:35
gnufreexIt will just make rich people more richApr 02 16:35
oiaohmhttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/5523741.html  twitter note this is a hardware patent.  Yes some hardware patents are purely wrong.Apr 02 16:36
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gnufreexAnd those who buy into kool aid will not get defend their patents.Apr 02 16:36
gnufreexToo expensiveApr 02 16:36
schestowitz[16:11] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Rim gets its hands on 30,000 patents- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 58.65 KBApr 02 16:37
schestowitzAh, so BlackBerry is taxed by the Nathan+Bill TrollsApr 02 16:37
schestowitzTheir joint venture taxing new things if not each PC (all phones)Apr 02 16:37
schestowitzThey also appear to tax Android at HTC and Samsung using the IV troll, but nobody talks about itApr 02 16:38
schestowitz[16:13] <twitter> patent troll as protectorApr 02 16:38
schestowitzThat's some atrocious coverageApr 02 16:39
oiaohmThe idea that wrong patents are only restricted to software and business is completely wrong.Apr 02 16:40
gnufreexWhere is that RIM articlE? I can't find the link.Apr 02 16:40
oiaohmI am supprised no one has not patented chewing nails yet.Apr 02 16:40
schestowitzCompany extorts funder's rival (Bill vs Linux), press casts that as "protection"Apr 02 16:40
schestowitzEvil is the new "good"Apr 02 16:40
oiaohmReally RIM doing deal could get interesting.Apr 02 16:41
oiaohmWill we see RIM next doing windows moble phones.Apr 02 16:41
schestowitz[16:28] <gnufreex> USPTO barely checks prior art, just prior patents Apr 02 16:41
oiaohmI hope not.Apr 02 16:41
schestowitzExactlyApr 02 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hope everyone at #NELF has fun and enjoys my logo. :DApr 02 16:42
schestowitzoiaohm: possibleApr 02 16:43
schestowitzMaybe not enough moles in there yetApr 02 16:44
schestowitzWhat does Vista Phony practically do that RIM's platform can't?Apr 02 16:44
schestowitzIt's possible that as RIM dies due to Apple and Google Microsoft will 'pull a Nokia' on a dying RIMApr 02 16:44
schestowitzMicrosoft: with a pile of corpses we'll build a zombie army and try to defeat the livingApr 02 16:45
oiaohmgnufreex: and twitter I wish I could remember the patent number.  There is a USA patent for attempting to hammer in a nail backwards.  Ie head first driven by hammer on pointy end.Apr 02 16:45
oiaohmYes the bugger is valid.Apr 02 16:45
schestowitzShould it be?Apr 02 16:46
schestowitzNot everything that's rule legal or valid should beApr 02 16:46
schestowitzThen there's civil disobedienceApr 02 16:46
oiaohmReally enforcing that patent would kinda insane.Apr 02 16:47
gnufreexWhat is most crazy is that "Arena Football League" was patented. Nobody was allowed to play Football (one with helmets) indoor on short field. Luckily, it expired. Apr 02 16:47
gnufreexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_LeagueApr 02 16:47
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gnufreexAnd league bustedApr 02 16:48
gnufreexGood riddanceApr 02 16:48
gnufreexNow other company bought it and no patents.Apr 02 16:48
schestowitzWhat does buying a patent really mean? Think about it.Apr 02 16:49
schestowitzLaterally.Apr 02 16:49
gnufreexBuying right to sue.Apr 02 16:51
schestowitzBuying an idea or passing so-called ownership of one...Apr 02 16:51
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_League  I hope Arena Football League dies its too confusing.Apr 02 16:51
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schestowitzIt's like buying a right to extortApr 02 16:51
schestowitzMATLAB's 3d is killing x hereApr 02 16:51
schestowitzI can't type for like 10 secondsApr 02 16:51
gnufreexoiaohm: I watched Footy game the other day, it is great.Apr 02 16:51
schestowitzX takes up entire coreApr 02 16:51
gnufreex(on tv)Apr 02 16:52
schestowitzFooty=Aussie Football?Apr 02 16:52
gnufreexYeahApr 02 16:52
schestowitzIn Britain, normal football is sometimes called fotballApr 02 16:52
schestowitz*footieApr 02 16:52
schestowitzIt's just slang, not the same for Australian footballApr 02 16:53
schestowitzThey are all world champions... by making their own version for a game only they playApr 02 16:53
schestowitz"The World Series"Apr 02 16:53
schestowitz=USAApr 02 16:53
gnufreexNormal football sucks. I never liked it. Apr 02 16:53
schestowitz"The Dream Team" (there is only an AMerican Dream)Apr 02 16:53
schestowitzgnufreex: too few ways to scoreApr 02 16:54
schestowitzTennis is goodApr 02 16:54
schestowitzVollyball scoring changedApr 02 16:54
schestowitzVolleyball where the scoring way changedApr 02 16:54
gnufreexNot just scoring.Apr 02 16:55
gnufreexIt is boring. Apr 02 16:55
schestowitzto 25 -> 15 with service for score to incrementApr 02 16:55
gnufreexFor playing and for watching.Apr 02 16:55
schestowitz22 peopleApr 02 16:55
schestowitzOne holds ball at one timeApr 02 16:55
gnufreexYeahApr 02 16:55
schestowitzBasketball has 10Apr 02 16:55
schestowitzTennis=2Apr 02 16:55
schestowitzSo fun for playApr 02 16:55
gnufreexThere is nothing to do when you don't have ball in soccer Apr 02 16:56
gnufreexfootbal*Apr 02 16:56
gnufreexIn basketball, you box out a guyApr 02 16:56
gnufreexon reboudApr 02 16:56
schestowitzgnufreex: you improve positioning :-)Apr 02 16:56
gnufreexOr set a pickApr 02 16:56
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oiaohmAustralian Football League games are interesting to watch.Apr 02 16:57
gnufreexIn American football, you chase they guy with the ball, or defend him.Apr 02 16:57
oiaohmReally American Football is insaneApr 02 16:57
schestowitzIf you're a goalie like me, watching and playing is the same most of the timeApr 02 16:57
gnufreexlolApr 02 16:58
oiaohmAll that body armor they place on themselvesApr 02 16:58
gnufreexoiaohm: That is why I like itApr 02 16:58
oiaohmThen expect no one to get hurt.Apr 02 16:58
oiaohmI more prefer walking Aus AFLApr 02 16:58
gnufreexoiaohm: I played American football. And I did get hurt. But I am not sorry.Apr 02 16:59
oiaohmsoccer I would get stuck as full back or wing.Apr 02 16:59
oiaohmMainly for both the same reasons.Apr 02 17:00
schestowitz"chase the guy with the ball" sounds wrongApr 02 17:00
oiaohmI was very good at only ball contact.Apr 02 17:00
oiaohmI had it down to a fine art that I could flip a person by only hitting the ball.Apr 02 17:00
gnufreex<schestowitz> "chase the guy with the ball" sounds wrongApr 02 17:01
gnufreexwhy?Apr 02 17:01
oiaohmI remember the one day I got red carded.  I flipped the ref.Apr 02 17:02
schestowitzI was jokingApr 02 17:02
schestowitzBut...Apr 02 17:02
schestowitzI like to joke about guys who think watching football is the ultimate way to prove their manhoodApr 02 17:02
schestowitzThey just get all obsessed with guys in shortsApr 02 17:03
oiaohmBasically I was a hazard playing football.  schestowitzApr 02 17:03
gnufreexoiaohm: There are cards in aussie football? I didn't see it. Or you are talking about soccer?Apr 02 17:03
schestowitzThey should be all hyped up about women's beach volleyballApr 02 17:03
oiaohmgnufreex: soccer.  I got red carded for flipping the ref with the ball.  Apr 02 17:04
oiaohmgnufreex:  Todo it is pure timing.Apr 02 17:04
gnufreexoiaohm: Did you get him on the head?Apr 02 17:04
oiaohmgnufreex: Not that much force really.  Person ends up laying on back.  Wondering what in hell just happened.Apr 02 17:04
gnufreexHe shouldn't give you red card,. it is against the rulesApr 02 17:06
oiaohmThe hard bit is the timing there is a very small window.  gnufreexApr 02 17:06
gnufreexWhen ref gets hit with the ball, game continuesApr 02 17:06
gnufreexlike nothing happenedApr 02 17:07
oiaohmGet it wrong you can break the person ankle.Apr 02 17:07
gnufreexAnd it is his own faultApr 02 17:07
oiaohmReally that he was not playing for the ball taking him down was against the rules.Apr 02 17:07
gnufreexHow you can break person's ankle with ball? Apr 02 17:09
oiaohmVery simply.Apr 02 17:10
oiaohmTags gripped in ground by full body weith .  Then use the ball on the side of leg to drive them over sideways.Apr 02 17:11
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oiaohmYes those deep strong gripping tags become your worst enemy.Apr 02 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A finely balanced cricket world cup final. very exciting.Apr 02 17:13
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gnufreex_What did I miss?Apr 02 17:14
oiaohmWhat was my last line gnufreex_Apr 02 17:14
gnufreex_<oiaohm> Really that he was not playing for the ball taking him down was against the rules.Apr 02 17:14
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oiaohm[02:10] <oiaohm> Very simply.Apr 02 17:15
oiaohm[02:10] <oiaohm> Tags gripped in ground by full body weith .  Then use the ball on the side of leg to drive them over sideways.Apr 02 17:15
oiaohm[02:11] <oiaohm> Yes those deep strong gripping tags become your worst enemy.Apr 02 17:15
oiaohmI was also banned from taking part in hurdle races.  Since I could run the race faster launching the hurles forwards than jumping over or steping on them.Apr 02 17:16
oiaohmBreak fall at every hurdle.  Longest distance I sent a hurdle forwards was a nice 30 metres.Apr 02 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Moron on the Fedora Marketing list wants to relabel PackageKit into "Fedora App Store" because that is "easier for users"... WTF!?Apr 02 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTH would we call it a store when we aren't *selling* anything? OoApr 02 17:18
gnufreex_lolApr 02 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Time to get the gods out, redcafe.net style #indvsslApr 02 17:20
gnufreex_oiaohm: did you ever play aussie football ? I heard everyone has to play it in australia. Apr 02 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time Warner pulls channels on Ipad app http://is.gd/TAfFun #oldbusinessmodelsApr 02 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Is It Rocket Science That Laws Should Apply Online Too? - http://bit.ly/fAx46e interesting comparison between #analogue & #digitalApr 02 17:21
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oiaohmgnufreex_: Not true.  I am in Queenland.  My build forbids me from all bar soccer and touch or being a trainer for the others.Apr 02 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] First one: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A2p-V-VhJGI/TV2XQFJIUAI/AAAAAAAAAIY/G3dUgPVGBuY/s1600/Sachin_Tendulkar.jpgApr 02 17:23
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oiaohmYes it does sux being forbin from it so you are the odd one out.  gnufreex_  Rugby union is more likely to be played in Queenland.Apr 02 17:24
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oiaohmgnufreex_: Only in recent years has AFL came to Queensland.Apr 02 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] How about we call it "Duh..... Apps. WINNING!"Apr 02 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This Indian run chase looks like being close.Apr 02 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Dhoni holding his cricket bat looks like Hanumaan with his gaddaApr 02 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India need 53 from 54 balls #cricketApr 02 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Configuration to connect MTNL 3g jadoo datacard - Delhi LW272 on Ubuntu/Linux http://tinyurl.com/3vu9orw #blogApr 02 17:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Plastic BeachApr 02 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India need 16 from 18 balls, loads of wickets in hand, all over bar the cheering.Apr 02 18:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, I noticed something on my quad core system that never really affected my dual core systemApr 02 18:19
DaemonFCI think I only noticed it because I was playing around without tear free on in CatalystApr 02 18:19
DaemonFCHZ=1000 in kernel configuration causes a lot more tearing than HZ=300Apr 02 18:19
DaemonFCI guess it's probably obvious if you stop to think about it but I had been running tear free and was used to ticking HZ=1000Apr 02 18:20
DaemonFCquad core CPUs don't seem to deal with lots of timer interrupts too well, and the help screen probably has never been updated to account for thatApr 02 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India win World Cup #Cricket well played and bad luck Sri Lanka in loosing consecutive finals.Apr 02 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] I am proud being an Indian!Apr 02 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[katesherrod/@katesherrod] Via @dredeyedick How Many Lives Will !WikiLeaks Save? | World | AlterNet http://bit.ly/doJoPnApr 02 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Dhoni you champ. Salute you mate :)Apr 02 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @evan - will you be adding a link-blog-post ability to freelish.us please? It's the last chain keeping me tied to delicious...Apr 02 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anyone get the impression that our Federal Politicians think that they've been doing a good job? I'd mark them at a D- myself.Apr 02 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I read that as Feral Politicians, my eyeballs playing Freudian tricks on me againApr 02 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The IP Maximalist's Guide To Making It Big http://is.gd/rKv6OJ #TechDirt excellent & entertaining as usualApr 02 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In any country most of the spies are spying on the people. What does that tell us about #democracy and #freedomApr 02 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sometimes all you can do is laugh http://is.gd/bixi8E #NYTimes #Paywall #trademarkeabuse #hilariousApr 02 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Is It Rocket Science That Laws Should Apply Online Too? http://bit.ly/fAx46e interesting comparison #analogue & #digitalApr 02 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: Who should win in #EU? The Internet or the majors? Answer #IPRED consult before Sunday night! http://j.mp/idlMFU #copywrongApr 02 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Download a VM and try ♺ @hook: ♻ @gege2061: #GNU !Hurd 0.401 released http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/news/2011-04-01.html → !FSFEApr 02 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is a nice sound good for a lift. http://is.gd/Wx9Oq8 #music #skaApr 02 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh you don't need to sell to call it a store. It isn't easier for users, I agree, but is more recognizeable than PackageKit (in menus)Apr 02 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan why does freelish.us allow linking accounts from twitter but not identi.ca? :)Apr 02 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] welcome to the future of #Hollywood http://is.gd/mrUNJD #parasites #shiestersApr 02 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan yes, but I don't want to just subscribe, but use it :)Apr 02 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan it seems I need to create an account there... and yes, my identi.ca browser sessions is activeApr 02 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And the bullshit continues. I wish these people would at least *admit* they are trying to copy Apple....Apr 02 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Canonical gambling with its unique UI and own copyrights? http://ur1.ca/3qqaa (Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst #Ubuntu beta ever)Apr 02 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jaws: A movie review - http://bit.ly/ggHwaB not new, but v. witty & wise (v @koxinga21 @standupmaths)Apr 02 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Buford O' Sullivan I Gotta Do It Someday http://is.gd/wiyNp7 #music #skaApr 02 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TV Site Sued For Linking To Completely Legal Videos - http://bit.ly/f1GuzR timeo Danaos et dona ferentes #greece #coipyrightApr 02 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Deleted last dent did not notice I was replying to re dent.Apr 02 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra Download a VM and try ♺ @hook: ♻ @gege2061: #GNU !Hurd 0.401 released http://ur1.ca/3q34p → !FSFEApr 02 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jerezim: Who should win in #EU? The Internet or the majors? Answer #IPRED consult before Sunday night! http://j.mp/idlMFU #copywrongApr 02 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I should not have deleted just re dentedApr 02 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @katesherrod Via @dredeyedick How Many Lives Will !WikiLeaks Save? | World | AlterNet http://bit.ly/doJoPnApr 02 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmm..... This 2007 Médoc is awesome! :D And now it's Jungleland time....Apr 02 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] So many #sigtran protocols. Today I'm working on an #erlang M3UA implementations. SUA and M2PA are pending.Apr 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Toasters - Dub 56 http://is.gd/bVi704 #music #skaApr 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh http://www.google.pt/search?q=define%3AstoreApr 02 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm really not in the mood for these bullshit discussions right now. This point is so obvious.... Gonna listen to some music instead now.Apr 02 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] BTW, people who quote from a dictionary to prove a point get laughed at in lit courses in uni. For *good* reason....Apr 02 20:05
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ender2071trying slackware 13.37Apr 02 20:05
ender2071:)Apr 02 20:05
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ender2071btrfs support in slackware 13.37Apr 02 20:09
ender2071the installer lets me select itApr 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Outside the street's on fire in a real death waltz between what's flesh and what's fantasy..." #JunglelandApr 02 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Two more Putzmiester pumps are being sent to Japan http://ur1.ca/3qqgaApr 02 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] 3 New Equinox Themes Released: Equinox Evolution Dawn, Dusk and Midnight http://bit.ly/gmHU8CApr 02 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh how is that a stretch? I commonly refer to the trunk of my car as the "Corpse Store" because that's where I store my ...um... toolsApr 02 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All ska'd out time to catch up with what the world is doing.Apr 02 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Tor Project Wins Award for Role in Middle East Revolutions http://ur1.ca/3qqld !effApr 02 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The north of Ireland's latest political violence is like any other, ripples from the failure of peaceful politics.Apr 02 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 145 dents!Apr 02 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "You deny us freedom so that you may sleep better at night, but I say it is a restless and undeserved slumber." ~ First Enchanter OrsinoApr 02 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT Chevenga Philosopher in Arms : The strangest Fifth Mill people http://bit.ly/fYg7Oa #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifiApr 02 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Nokia says about Symbian: "We're Open". The New License Shows Otherwise. http://is.gd/TCO8DF #nokia #microsoft #symbianApr 02 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "That's all history is: the best tales. The ones that last. Might as well be mine." ~ VarricApr 02 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ Good stuff @davidmarsden @andyc @realityApr 02 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC click is being broadcast live on the net so for all the times it has pissed you off log on and give your feedback live. That should helpApr 02 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Unionized Workers are bankrupting Wisconsin, but $174,000 a year not living wage says Republican party Representative http://is.gd/mcEQyXApr 02 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 55 million downloads on 2011-04-02 19:57 UTCApr 02 20:58
schestowitzGot some coding done tonight...Apr 02 20:59
schestowitzBack in the days academics from China had asked me for source code (MATLAB) and sought collaboration. They are excellent at bringing commodity products to market, not just manufacturing. The key point is that working with them -- not necessarily against them -- seems to be the path to a vast market.Apr 02 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra ROFLApr 02 21:00
DaemonFCRed Flag Linux for schestowitz it is thenApr 02 21:01
DaemonFCcomplete with logging in everyone as root, looking like Windows XP, and full of backdoors for the Chinese governmentApr 02 21:01
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 21:01
schestowitzLOLApr 02 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lady Gaga goes gaga over #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/3qqs0 well....Apr 02 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A dark new future #Compiz http://ur1.ca/3qqs5 under Canonical's reign. #Ubuntu likes 3-D...Apr 02 21:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, The only decent government-sponsored distros I've seen are Ututo and ParsixApr 02 21:02
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DaemonFCand considering Parsix is from Iran I don't know if I would trust itApr 02 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In Thedas, I can at least stick a two handed sword up people's arses who disagree with me.... :PApr 02 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard M Stallman Says Its Linux Not GNU/Linux; Linus Upset With Android http://ur1.ca/3qqsh wonderful headline. #androidApr 02 21:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, Also, Debian's completely free kernel isn'tApr 02 21:03
DaemonFCit has nonfree firmware for my NICApr 02 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Delaying #GNOME 3.0, again http://ur1.ca/3qqsr better to wait until it's good, learn from #KDE 4.0.Apr 02 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In #baseball, the LA #Angels 4, KC #Royals 5. Los Angeles loses, drops to a 1-2 record. #LABaseballApr 02 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Delaying GNOME 3.0, again - mon journal - par Vincent .::. Size~: 19.89 KBApr 02 21:05
schestowitzJust got a call from my mate who used to play for England Sevens (rugby) :-DApr 02 21:05
schestowitzHe has recently had a childApr 02 21:05
schestowitzHow quickly people reproduce....!Apr 02 21:06
schestowitzcongrats to jono: http://ftbeowulf.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/ubuntu-moving-forward-with-jono-bacon-at-fedroa/Apr 02 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu moving forward with Jono Bacon at Fedroa « Free Trader Beowulf .::. Size~: 42.8 KBApr 02 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft buys wine http://ur1.ca/3q4zq :-)Apr 02 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Buys Open Source ReactOS For $12.3 Billion | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 31.57 KBApr 02 21:08
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/microsoft-open-source-windowsApr 02 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Fact and Fiction: Microsoft To Open Source Windows .::. Size~: 86.96 KBApr 02 21:08
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 21:08
schestowitzLike anybody needs more shoddy codeApr 02 21:08
schestowitzIgnore the date: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/01/ubuntu1004_beta_review/Apr 02 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever • The Register .::. Size~: 25.65 KBApr 02 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] To unmuddy the waters :) that is Click on BBC world service formerly digital planet not the show on the telly. See previous dent.Apr 02 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Well I'm downloading the !Ubuntu Natty beta, even though the alphas didn't work for me. This is my last attempt thoughApr 02 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ScientificLinux 6.0 Released http://ur1.ca/3qqv8 had conversation last week about how it might replace #centos (slow patching)Apr 02 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I mean it no more coarse pate. It gets to the knife then straight to gob 3rd party delivery systems sit there unwanted and with a complexApr 02 21:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released — ServerWatch.com .::. Size~: 61.71 KBApr 02 21:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/70281714Apr 02 21:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Saturday, 02-Apr-11 20:11:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz g3 is great :PApr 02 21:14
schestowitzI hope so...Apr 02 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @ruiseabra How much would you hate me if I asked if this is that semantic web they're all talking about :)Apr 02 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat tells us that big nasty #SCOracle justified obfuscating patches but harms innocent and vital players like #centos - all just PR?Apr 02 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk I hope so...Apr 02 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at the next generation of #Ubuntu Tweak! http://ur1.ca/3qqw1 #canonicalApr 02 21:16
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DaemonFCschestowitz, You may be a victim of software counterfeiting Apr 02 21:19
DaemonFCYou know there are victim support groups for that right?Apr 02 21:19
DaemonFCyou don't have to suffer in silenceApr 02 21:20
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Will Not Ship With A Classic Gnome Desktop http://bit.ly/h4Qv9dApr 02 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Would Be Disastrous For #Linux , Open-Source http://ur1.ca/3qqw8 @phoronix does realise #swpats are a top issueApr 02 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Will Not Ship With A Classic Gnome Desktop ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.94 KBApr 02 21:20
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schestowitzDaemonFC: tell your mate jonoApr 02 21:21
schestowitzHe got Vista 7 for freeApr 02 21:21
schestowitz:-)Apr 02 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Elementary OS 0.1 "Jupiter" http://ur1.ca/3qqwi #ubuntu #gnu #linuxApr 02 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Elementary OS 0.1 "Jupiter" .::. Size~: 114.26 KBApr 02 21:21
schestowitzBallmer put his Father Santa costume... "one copy for Miguel..... one for jono.." :-)Apr 02 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to disable Unity and go back to the classic interface in Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' http://ur1.ca/3qqxb choice still existsApr 02 21:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to disable Unity and go back to the classic interface in Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 142.31 KBApr 02 21:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: BT manual says the product contains GPL codeApr 02 21:27
schestowitzIt gives the address of the site with modsApr 02 21:27
schestowitzAnd IIRC this only happened after BT had been pressuredApr 02 21:27
schestowitzYou gave Samsung some Hell tooApr 02 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Got a fallback computer sorted out now that my GPU is dodgy and may get fried in the imminent future :-/Apr 02 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ABLEconf keynote is about gnu/freedom. #freedom #boycottnovell #freedomApr 02 21:28
schestowitzFoxxcon - was it really you who nailed them for BIOS or do you falsely claim credit?Apr 02 21:28
DaemonFCwas meApr 02 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Much of the reputation of the BBC abroad is based on reputation of BBC world service abroad which is different from what we get in....Apr 02 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ABLEconf keynote == open source 101?Apr 02 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ..Britain. If I want to know what the government line is on anything I listen to the BBC #pravda elsewhere for the real news. #BBC #failApr 02 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I just got a mention on http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ woohoo, i'm famous :)Apr 02 21:33
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schestowitzDaemonFC: why such an odd nym?Apr 02 21:34
schestowitzDid you hear the news from Foxconn?Apr 02 21:35
schestowitzMaybe you caused many children to be sackedApr 02 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Questions For Ryan Gordon, The Linux Game Porter http://ur1.ca/3qr12 top lad! #linux #IcculusApr 02 21:35
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schestowitzhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/4/1/foxconn-announces-218-million-loss-2010/Apr 02 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foxconn announces $218 million loss for 2010 | thinq_ .::. Size~: 23.42 KBApr 02 21:36
schestowitzMaybe they overpaid the staffApr 02 21:36
schestowitzUnlike Apple :-/Apr 02 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat execs pushed hard for incentives http://ur1.ca/3qr1c #redhat #linuxApr 02 21:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/01/i-am-jef-spaleta/Apr 02 21:37
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schestowitzhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/Duke-Nukem-Forever-Gearbox-PC-Gaming-Jetpack-Feces,12499.htmlApr 02 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VIDEO: Duke Nukem Vids Feature Jetpack, Poop .::. Size~: 122.28 KBApr 02 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Charlie Angus was lobbied by Canadian Music Publishers Association on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/gckJIIApr 02 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Pablo Rodriguez was lobbied by Canadian Music Publishers Association on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/eGhP7lApr 02 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FR: Space agency to use Apache Commons Math http://ur1.ca/3qr22 #france #apache $feedomApr 02 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I have to admit !Ubuntu Natty beta 3 seems to have loaded fine this time, so my graphic issues must have been sorted outApr 02 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Maccyness is a serious problem though. This is far from ideal I have t sayApr 02 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FR: Space agency to use Apache Commons Math — .::. Size~: 30.04 KBApr 02 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RESCUE OF TSUNAMI DOG 3 WEEKS AT SEA http://ur1.ca/3qr3p but not the main story... #japanApr 02 21:48
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ch_s/status/53762075360632832Apr 02 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@ch_s: @Fosspatents: now that you're at the board of #msft,do you plan to overthrow Steve Ballmer? The industry deserves answers!Apr 02 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ FFII [to Microsoft drones] As #Office isn't profitable the Office branch would be sold to Borland. They are keen to support #OOXML.Apr 02 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @FFII Cake from #FFII for #FSFE 10th birthday party at #cbase in berlin http://ur1.ca/3pyohApr 02 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Helpful film I did not have to look it up. Metropolitan Building #architectureApr 02 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Openness of the UK http://ur1.ca/3qr6t #odf #ukApr 02 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @dai: Lancashire Police officers dismissed for breaching data laws http://ur1.ca/3qr4r !privacyApr 02 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lancashire Police officers dismissed for breaching data laws - Big Brother Watch .::. Size~: 47.39 KBApr 02 22:02
MinceRDaemonFC: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/04/02/ron-english-mexico-sign.jpgApr 02 22:02
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DaemonFCMinceR, Obviously not trueApr 02 22:03
DaemonFCor our welfare system wouldn't be so overburdened by our non-taxpaying friendsApr 02 22:03
DaemonFC:)Apr 02 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @davidmarsden With @reality & @andyc, I present for your aural pleasures Operation Sandbags At Dawn: http://notapodcast.tumblr.com/ ! ...Apr 02 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian starts attacking Google, not just #Linux - revised lobbying contract? http://ur1.ca/3qr7mApr 02 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM is like the bloke in the pub who says "If I ran the country....". But PM is and we expect more thought, civil service tie him up.Apr 02 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh http://twitpic.com/4g7yvc @popeyApr 02 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When you have place the tabs in their groups, they should just stay there.Apr 02 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays http://ur1.ca/3qrdg !techrightsApr 02 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays http://ur1.ca/3qrdg #techrightsApr 02 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.08 KBApr 02 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.08 KBApr 02 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Am I in a very small minority that thinks Angelena Jolie is nothing special?Apr 02 22:40
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schestowitzHeh. zoobab__ ...Apr 02 22:42
schestowitzYou make one statement (as FFII president)Apr 02 22:42
schestowitzAnd then Andre at @ffii contradicts that in a senseApr 02 22:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/54295764356182016Apr 02 22:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz Microsoft Florian starts attacking Google, not just #Linux ░ http://ur1.ca/3qr7m |Only @InfoWorld & @ZDNet take him seriouslyApr 02 22:42
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Twitter / Florian Mueller: I plan to add a Google +1  ... .::. Size~: 9.7 KBApr 02 22:42
schestowitzExactly!Apr 02 22:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh Tottie. I assumed the acting abilities spoke for themselves.Apr 02 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The RSA Hack: How They Did It - NYTimes.com http://ow.ly/4rU5GApr 02 22:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The RSA Hack: How They Did It - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 70.94 KBApr 02 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Depeche Mode : People Are People, Everything Counts, Personal Jesus.... classics.Apr 02 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh That photo reminds me of a kde screensaver I had years ago. A strawberry with KDE "sweet"Apr 02 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh She is truly fecund. Follows Wall Street and leverages her pregnancies with acquisitions :) Do not get me wrong nice not special.Apr 02 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Loving #lancelot a lot! It has helped boost my productivity. http://ur1.ca/3qrj9 #kde #launcherApr 02 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lancelot - next gen KDE4 menu .::. Size~: 8.29 KBApr 02 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !lastfm is teaming up with Camden Crawl again to host an amazing night of music at Koko on 1st May.Apr 02 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Link: !lastfm http://www.last.fm/event/1890757+Last.fm+Presents+%40+Camden+Crawl+2011Apr 02 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last.fm Presents @ Camden Crawl 2011 at Koko  (London) on 1 May 2011 – Last.fm .::. Size~: 80.24 KBApr 02 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] shinh/maloader - GitHub « I'm trying to see the application for this, but I can admire the idea anyway http://ping.fm/AiV6kApr 02 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Programmer has a sense of humour in the game I am playing. "enough resources at the end of eternity" or DNFE year one as we know it.Apr 02 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: shinh/maloader - GitHub .::. Size~: 45 KBApr 02 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for #linux and #unixApr 02 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for !linux and !unixApr 02 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Gwibber lens for Ubuntu Unity available; adds social awesome to the 11.04 desktop « Alledgedly anyway http://ping.fm/tgeB4Apr 02 23:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.22 KBApr 02 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gwibber lens for Ubuntu Unity available; adds social awesome to the 11.04 desktop .::. Size~: 43.85 KBApr 02 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can admire Unity even if I don't actually like it yet. !Ubuntu have clearly put a lot of work into it and it is inventiveApr 02 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME Asia Summit 2011 http://ping.fm/xB6sOApr 02 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @4sHwiN: #Gopumon #facts RT @ganeshkn: Good one! RT: @adicrazy: When the coach said 'learn from Malinga', Sreesant promptl...Apr 02 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: #India got 1st worldcup in the year i was born. Now India got it again, in the year in which my son is born! #cwc2011Apr 02 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Life's a Story: GNOME Asia Summit 2011 .::. Size~: 56.03 KBApr 02 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: Lady Gaga goes gaga over #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/3qqs0 - My respect for the woman went up a notch!Apr 02 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lady Gaga goes gaga over Ubuntu | TechSource .::. Size~: 98.93 KBApr 02 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I scanned this before thought it was a poisson d'avril.Apr 02 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !lastfm music player for !google !chrome https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/bbncpldmanoknoahidbgmkgobgmhnafhApr 02 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last.fm free music player - Google Chrome extension gallery .::. Size~: 21.23 KBApr 02 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The @FFII Undresses the European Union http://ur1.ca/3qrp1Apr 02 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #FFII Undresses the European Union http://ur1.ca/3qrp1 #swpats #eu #microsoft #lobbying #epoApr 02 23:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The FFII Undresses the European Union | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.16 KBApr 02 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3qrl4 good times for #linux and #unixApr 02 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Nokia says about #Symbian: "We're Open". The New License Shows Otherwise. http://ping.fm/KpM3XApr 02 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The ‘Upgrade’ Will Fix Everything™, Says Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.08 KBApr 02 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Nokia says about Symbian:  "We're Open".  The New License Shows Otherwise. .::. Size~: 33.7 KBApr 02 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Compare and contrast. Indian support for Tamil Tigers and Western support for we do not really know yet. Long civil wars. #LibyaApr 02 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still totally digging Dragon Age II. What a great game.... But now I'm off.Apr 02 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Kubuntu: Kubuntu !Natty Beta 1 Released cc !KDE http://ping.fm/xxQfqApr 02 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kubuntu Natty Beta 1 Released | Kubuntu .::. Size~: 8.52 KBApr 02 23:58

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