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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #craigslist is truly awesome ♺ @NixiePixel: So this is how Marty McFly did it... http://bit.ly/hIeXrD | Mar 06 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #SCOTUS Rules Phelps and #WBC Can Protest Funerals http://ur1.ca/3emvy #atheist #humanist !lbgt #religion | Mar 06 16:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Peppermint Ice respin 20110302 out now! Check out this excellent distro! http://tinyurl.com/5ualgld !linux !ubuntu !foss !peppermint | Mar 06 16:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dead Nation has an update tomorrow, apparently voice chat and other new features added http://tinyurl.com/5r64rhu !ps3 !psn | Mar 06 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj !wl | Mar 06 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man, that Star Trek episode of #Yogscast is hilarious! Amazing stuff... | Mar 06 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. I need sleep.... I fear what I'll dream about tonight with all that scriptwriting and #Yogscast though. Oo | Mar 06 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New WikiLeaks book: WIKILEAKS AND THE AGE OF TRANSPARENCY by Micah Sifry http://www.orbooks.com/our-b... http://bit.ly/f4XxNx | Mar 06 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj http://bit.ly/eS4ARg | Mar 06 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is someone who loves Big Mac's a "Mac fan"? | Mar 06 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The New Economy. http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/The_New_Economy Likeable 80's retro. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 06 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya BBC reporter questioned why helicopter landing when they could take a taxi from ship. Now ship was there to collect them #bollocks | Mar 06 17:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] It's impossible to express in words how unenthusiastic I am about working around this IE7 bug. | Mar 06 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Go and give Gordon support/encouragement for his intention to write a novel in a month! http://tinyurl.com/6brnagn | Mar 06 17:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya all of a sudden shit coverage from BBC does not count for much. Why do people trust them? | Mar 06 17:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to "All quiet on the Western front" on Radio 7! - Great stuff! | Mar 06 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/guEerc #eff #sony #DMCA | Mar 06 17:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Android Just Overtook Apple iOS and BlackBerry http://tinyurl.com/49fpo52 !android - !wp7 !apple !microsoft !mvpbuzz !mvp | Mar 06 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Patches Published For Merging S3TC Library Into Mesa: It's a slightly more interesting Sunday than usual. Beside... http://bit.ly/e4VOE5 | Mar 06 17:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey !fedora folks, our GSoC application is due by Friday! There have to be more awesome ideas to add, no? http://ur1.ca/3ep1o | Mar 06 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Sweet Mother Logic. http://ur1.ca/3ep23 Eclectic, oddly compelling instrumentals. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 06 18:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh shiney! I'm adding RSS feeds to the ugliest UI I've ever had to deal with. | Mar 06 18:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm going to review Scientific Linux 6 shortly (just because I've been meaning to) | Mar 06 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | interesting to note that at the same time as this obfuscated kernel source, various Fedora related projects have started snubbing RHEL clones | Mar 06 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | (No RPM Fusion for EL 6) | Mar 06 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | AtRPMs and ELRepo are still around | Mar 06 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | a while back, some of the RPM Fusion people were trying to FUD both of them as "breaking" Fedora releases | Mar 06 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | ELRepo has never claimed that adding them to Fedora was a good idea (though they can't stop a person from it) and AtRPMs does replace some Fedora RPMs with its own versions, but always names them such that they won't break distribution upgrades | Mar 06 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder how long Red Hat/Fedora have been trying to subvert free RHEL clones without coming right out and saying it :) | Mar 06 18:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: This obfuscated kernel stunt is not the first time Redhat has done it either. | Mar 06 18:46 |
| oiaohm | They did it when mandrake was branching off as well. | Mar 06 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | for a while, RPM Fusion for EL 5 was providing kmods for video drivers because of Nvidia and ATI having this annoying habit or replacing libGL.so with their own versions, but the RPMs provided for RHEL have never done this | Mar 06 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | the ATI installer package builds an RPM that adds a diversion to their libGL.so without replacing the system package | Mar 06 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | if you remove the RPM later, your system goes right back to using MESA | Mar 06 18:47 |
| oiaohm | ATI has been good that way. | Mar 06 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | but if you run it as the generic Linux installer, it will bulldoze your system library | Mar 06 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 18:48 |
| oiaohm | The Nvidia driver has a hunt down and destroy any other opengl lib it can find. | Mar 06 18:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Tired of parents treating me like meat | Mar 06 18:48 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if you do use the generic installer, it's a simple matter of yum reinstall libgl (or whatever that package name was) | Mar 06 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | it won't break your system, you just won't have 3d until you do that | Mar 06 18:49 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia has a search and destory feature in there installer. DaemonFC | Mar 06 18:49 |
| oiaohm | ATI only has the opps the file was in the same place we wanted to place it. | Mar 06 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, last time I used Nvidia's installer it was because I needed a beta driver to use with a kernel I built | Mar 06 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | and when it came time to remove it later in preference to a distro package, I was sorry :) | Mar 06 18:50 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia also does equal to windows by the way. | Mar 06 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just one package it destroys, with Nvidia you have to gut and replace ALL of Mesa | Mar 06 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | ATI is just an annoyance | Mar 06 18:51 |
| oiaohm | ATI is hamless if you install it right. | Mar 06 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia will prevent pretty much everything beyond framebuffer video if you remove it later | Mar 06 18:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @telecomix: Blackout on #Libya for dialup against #censorship: +49 231 97844321 (login: telecomix password: telecomix) #fb | Mar 06 18:51 | |
| oiaohm | The generic installer can be told not to overlap with ATI DaemonFC | Mar 06 18:52 |
| oiaohm | And then you can alter the ld.so.conf so it works. | Mar 06 18:52 |
| oiaohm | Then remove ati just falls back like any good install should. | Mar 06 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't remember what I did to gut Nvidia, but I was close to backing up and formatting | Mar 06 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't end up having to, but it litters your system with its crap, it's not just limited to Mesa or X | Mar 06 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia has the most evil driver in the world (R) | Mar 06 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | if your distro doesn't provide packages and you don't want to use Nouveau, find one that does | Mar 06 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | don't ever use their installer | Mar 06 18:55 |
| oiaohm | Last time I end up running a debian audit script. | Mar 06 18:56 |
| oiaohm | Any package with missing files reinstall. | Mar 06 18:57 |
| oiaohm | or files that don't pass checksum. | Mar 06 18:57 |
| oiaohm | That are elf | Mar 06 18:57 |
| oiaohm | Its one of my anti root kit scripts. | Mar 06 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I kept in mind how ugly Nvidia's driver was when it came time to buy a new card | Mar 06 18:58 |
| oiaohm | I made the mistake on a system I had installed Nvidia | Mar 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't the deciding factor, but geez | Mar 06 18:58 |
| oiaohm | of running my anti root kit scripts | Mar 06 18:58 |
| oiaohm | That is how I knew it would work. | Mar 06 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is a batchelor pad for dads, called a Dad Pad? or is that a Thinkpad used by Fathers Lobby Groups? | Mar 06 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] And here comes the breakdown. #nov4 | Mar 06 18:58 | |
| oiaohm | Ie Poff by by Nvidia | Mar 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all of Nvidia's performance I understand comes from working around the X server instead of using it | Mar 06 18:58 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia is doing what DRI2 enables. | Mar 06 18:59 |
| oiaohm | But DRI2 does it cleanly. | Mar 06 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | X.org is probably more mismanaged now than ever, not like Nvidia needs to look hard to use them as an excuse | Mar 06 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anyone who uses a vocoder straight to ICC Life sentence listening to singers using a vocoder. #justice | Mar 06 19:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it my imagination or just the circle of people I follow? there's a large proportion of Canadians using Identi.ca \o/ clued up countries | Mar 06 19:00 | |
| oiaohm | X,org has been trying to delete old DRI1 hacks for ever. | Mar 06 19:00 |
| oiaohm | Problem is delete them Nvidia drivers die. | Mar 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're becoming what they criticized XFree86 of being | Mar 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | this big monolithic mess with varying degrees of quality and overlapping drivers, so on so forth | Mar 06 19:00 |
| oiaohm | Really X.org is not DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:00 |
| oiaohm | The X.org code base has reduced in size. | Mar 06 19:01 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the overlapping drivers started before x.org DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:01 |
| oiaohm | Dri1 was a major design stuff up done by Xfree86 DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:02 |
| oiaohm | DRI1 was built with the logic that a person would Only need 1 opengl application at a time. | Mar 06 19:02 |
| oiaohm | Now how do you fix something like that. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, obviously you can't | Mar 06 19:03 |
| oiaohm | Only way is basically rebuild everything. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:03 |
| oiaohm | DRI2 | Mar 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with what Wayland is doing in principle | Mar 06 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | but in fact, I'm skeptical they'll get everyone onboard | Mar 06 19:04 |
| oiaohm | Everything has to be rebuilt for DRI2. And in the processor Wayland got invented. | Mar 06 19:04 |
| oiaohm | Wayland and X.org are sharing many parts. | Mar 06 19:04 |
| oiaohm | Including keyboard input; | Mar 06 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well right now you have ATI using DRI 1, and Nvidia using a combination of DRI 1 and their own extensions held together with chewing gum | Mar 06 19:05 |
| oiaohm | Really the lead of X.org is onboard with Wayland. | Mar 06 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's why only the free drivers work with Wayland, or KMS, or..... | Mar 06 19:05 |
| oiaohm | ATI is trying to do away with there closed source drivers. | Mar 06 19:05 |
| oiaohm | So ATI will get kinda fixed at some point. | Mar 06 19:06 |
| oiaohm | The long term plan from ATI is quite complex. | Mar 06 19:06 |
| oiaohm | Ie open source drivers get so far then they will release binary libs todo the patent covered bit. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes insane one of the last moves is merge the streams. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:07 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia its getting harder and harder each release of X.org for them to remain Dri1 | Mar 06 19:07 |
| oiaohm | And Nvidia does not want to have to release KMS to kernel. | Mar 06 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Naming of Fedora 16 underway - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_16 #fb | Mar 06 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Goregaon West ! | Mar 06 19:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | so basically you're seeing ATI support the freee driver framework for the same reason Fluendo supports GStreamer | Mar 06 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | they hope to sell you binaries to plug into the "free" framework later on | Mar 06 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise it could be unusable | Mar 06 19:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Not sell AMD will want to sell the cards to you. | Mar 06 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | you know what I mean | Mar 06 19:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they don't want you to be feature behind due to patents. | Mar 06 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | you still need them even though there will be some baseline functionality without it | Mar 06 19:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Now of course if AMD can get the right patent agreements or implement the patent coverd parts in hardware. | Mar 06 19:10 |
| oiaohm | So that out the box it works AMD will. | Mar 06 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | here, please build this nifty new framework to support our nonfree plugins | Mar 06 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | you've saved us so much money on programmer salary, thanks so much! | Mar 06 19:10 |
| oiaohm | Problem is not all the old card were doing all the opengl features that are patent covered in hardware. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:11 |
| oiaohm | AMD is basically going to work around a problem kindly. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:11 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia from leaks appears to be working on a completely new driver for Linux in house. | Mar 06 19:12 |
| oiaohm | Gstreamer was designed to allow closed source plugins in. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:13 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Note AMD is also talking to a lot of patent holder of opengl stuff about letting open source. | Mar 06 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Patent Troll, please find it in your heart of hearts to give up this racketeering scheme that our milk cow of 1,000 tits, known also as the patent system, has enabled you to sit back and make money on without the process of actually making, anything. Your friends, AMD | Mar 06 19:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do you think AMD is talk nice. | Mar 06 19:18 |
| oiaohm | Dear Patent Troll Please consider being nice to open source or we will have to start researching other ways to implement the functionality. So one day we will pay you nothing. | Mar 06 19:19 |
| oiaohm | And Patnet Troll most likely will listern because AMD has done that before. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:20 |
| oiaohm | AMD really does not care about paying patents as long as it does not interfere with what they want todo. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Dear AMD, call us when you figure out how to get every game made that uses S3TC to work without any S3TC support in the driver. BTW, thanks for paying us royalties on your use of it in Catalyst, those checks are nice. If you can think of anything else that we may own a government sanctioned monopoly on that you would like to pay us for and transfer more costs onto your customers over, have your people call our people. Toodles! | Mar 06 19:21 |
| oiaohm | That would be a bad responce. | Mar 06 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | What's ridiculous is how this bullshit can end up making it into a standard like OpenGL | Mar 06 19:22 |
| oiaohm | Because AMD hardware implemenation S3TC is covered by AMD patent. | Mar 06 19:23 |
| oiaohm | So they don't have to pay for that one. | Mar 06 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can get anything done tonight or if I'm just going to fail again. #nov4 | Mar 06 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I read somewhere that being owned by non Canadians can be legal reason for seizure, I don't wanna build a brand then lose it | Mar 06 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter how brainwashed I was/am thought .ca was California | Mar 06 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | an industry standard is almost always packed full of patents like a thanksgiving turkey | Mar 06 19:23 |
| oiaohm | AMD can in theory shot down S3TC | Mar 06 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | they tend to use things like the Khronos Group as a circle jerk | Mar 06 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all #lmde needs to be the perfect laptop / netbook distro is the option to encrypt /home in the installer !linux !linuxmint | Mar 06 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the problem is that you can't call something an open standards and then tell everyone that wants to implement it where to send the checks | Mar 06 19:25 |
| oiaohm | Recent years getting patented features into Khronos Group has been getting harder. | Mar 06 19:25 |
| oiaohm | Any ideas why. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:26 |
| oiaohm | All the video card makers have worked out the patent agreements are more of a pain in the ass than profit making. | Mar 06 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, why isn't anyone scared about the Direct3D state tracker? There's an entire API full of god knows what that is maintained by Microsoft | Mar 06 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | and we're worried about one texture compression algorithm in OpenGL? | Mar 06 19:26 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft patent threatens Video card makers by the way. | Mar 06 19:27 |
| oiaohm | it kinda woke them up. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:27 |
| oiaohm | To how stupid they were being. | Mar 06 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | That D3D state tracker is more worrying than Mono, just watch what happens when you have Linux programs that need DirectX and Microsoft launches a lawsuit | Mar 06 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Part of Mexico :-) | Mar 06 19:28 | |
| oiaohm | Problem MS is limited. | Mar 06 19:28 |
| oiaohm | Most of the features of the state tracker are exposed by the video card makers. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | S3TC is just about one washed up patent troll that nobody cares about anymore, and it brings the OpenGL state tracker work to a halt | Mar 06 19:29 |
| oiaohm | No S3TC did not bring work to a halt. | Mar 06 19:30 |
| oiaohm | Floating point textures has. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:30 |
| oiaohm | 2 patents of hell. | Mar 06 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're debating whether to make Mesa the new LAME | Mar 06 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | jsut ship it as source code and let the distro or user worry about it | Mar 06 19:31 |
| oiaohm | The Floating point textures one is worse because you need that functionally to match fully base spec of opengl 2.0 and is required in opengl 3.0 and 4.0 | Mar 06 19:31 |
| oiaohm | S3TC is not a required part of the spec. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Dear user, OpenGL isn't all that open, so will you please compile it yourself or get it from a server in the Russian Federation? Thanks. | Mar 06 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter within a few lifetimes yes mostly | Mar 06 19:33 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Interesting thing here. | Mar 06 19:34 |
| oiaohm | ATI implement the extention for floating point textures | Mar 06 19:34 |
| oiaohm | using a patent they did not own. | Mar 06 19:34 |
| oiaohm | Thank you ATI for having incompetent Patent tracking. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I am sorry I do not understand | Mar 06 19:36 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Really Khronos group has been a lot better since AMD bought ATI out. | Mar 06 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | ATI was a joke | Mar 06 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I do not know what a tv chow is. | Mar 06 19:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | "ATI Premium Graphics" Oh, is THAT why your driver segfaults if I turn Compiz on? Awesome. | Mar 06 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their driver has always been a pain in the ass, it's just been less of one every month since AMD bought them. | Mar 06 19:40 |
| oiaohm | ATI is improving. | Mar 06 19:40 |
| oiaohm | Getting to the point AMD will start using there own branding. | Mar 06 19:41 |
| oiaohm | and the ATI brand will be allowed die. | Mar 06 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | I got the idea to move over to Enterprise Linux because AMD officially supports it | Mar 06 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | that's not always the case with other distros, it's more like good luck installing it, oh it has bugs, great | Mar 06 19:41 |
| oiaohm | Meego will also be offically supported by AMD. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:42 |
| oiaohm | There is about 8 distributions Offically supported. | Mar 06 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Ubuntu is supposedly one of them | Mar 06 19:43 |
| oiaohm | correction offically supported with developers. | Mar 06 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | but to get that support, you have to use Ubuntu :) | Mar 06 19:43 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is offically supported for packaging. | Mar 06 19:43 |
| oiaohm | Not for real coding. | Mar 06 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | What is the RHEL upgrade policy like? | Mar 06 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | like for random packages | Mar 06 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | will you get a new Firefox and Pidgin or what? | Mar 06 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | like in point upgrades | Mar 06 19:44 |
| oiaohm | I normally don't use Redhat as a desktop. | Mar 06 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I notice Pidgin has their own repo that is up to date for EL | Mar 06 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | there's Red Hat Enterprise Linux ISOs that make their way to bittorrent sites | Mar 06 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | which is just dumb | Mar 06 19:46 |
| oiaohm | Scientific Linux 6 they have money. | Mar 06 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | there's free clones and you can get updates with those | Mar 06 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have a Red Hat Network subscription, you can't even get security updates for RHEL | Mar 06 19:46 |
| oiaohm | You can if you connect and basically turn it into fedora. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Mar 06 19:47 |
| oiaohm | Red Hat Enterpise contains a downgrade option. | Mar 06 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | RHN is the update mechanism right? | Mar 06 19:47 |
| oiaohm | Connect to Fedora repos | Mar 06 19:48 |
| oiaohm | And magically it ends up fedora. | Mar 06 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | but that's the problem | Mar 06 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | if you use RHEL, you don't want Fedora | Mar 06 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is new and bug prone | Mar 06 19:48 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 06 19:48 |
| oiaohm | Why you have to pay for updates | Mar 06 19:49 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has the best protection against pirates. | Mar 06 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | right, they backport a decent amount of stuff into EL | Mar 06 19:49 |
| oiaohm | They can pirate as much as they like but its worthless withou the update server. | Mar 06 19:49 |
| oiaohm | EL is Cern. | Mar 06 19:49 |
| oiaohm | Cern has been working with Redhat for a long time. | Mar 06 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I was coming around to that but thought it was my cultural ignorance, tell me the joke | Mar 06 19:50 | |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 5 may say Linux 2.6.18, but it has a significant amount of bug fixes and new drivers, features, etc. from newer kernels | Mar 06 19:50 |
| oiaohm | Intesting other way over. | Mar 06 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | a Red Hat engineer said at one point that "there is a stable ABI for Linux, it's called RHEL, it lasts 10 years, and everyone should use it" | Mar 06 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 19:51 |
| oiaohm | RHEL developed a lot of those patches before they went upstream. | Mar 06 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | of course using the actual RHEL as a desktop is pricey | Mar 06 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | $86 a year per seat | Mar 06 19:52 |
| oiaohm | And Cern was not having a bar of that. DaemonFC | Mar 06 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | right, that adds up fast | Mar 06 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | and if you want it as a server..... | Mar 06 19:52 |
| oiaohm | So leading to the existance of Scientific Linux | Mar 06 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 19:52 |
| oiaohm | But Redhat understood this. | Mar 06 19:53 |
| oiaohm | So they both share code with each other. | Mar 06 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well, SL is not a threat to Red Hat | Mar 06 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is selling support | Mar 06 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | not software | Mar 06 19:53 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 06 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | CentOS or SL is where you go if you wouldn't be paying Red Hat anyway | Mar 06 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | so why bother trying to muscle them out of existence? | Mar 06 19:54 |
| oiaohm | Main reason to go redhat is the support. | Mar 06 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to be trying to set up SL 6 as a desktop | Mar 06 19:54 |
| oiaohm | There support contracts are good. | Mar 06 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be fun even if I don't manage to get results :) | Mar 06 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] China deputizes smart phones to spy on Beijing residents’ real-time location. https://eff.org/r.5zw #privacy | Mar 06 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Looks like the latter for now. #nov4 | Mar 06 19:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, my dad says that you only ever see RHEL or Suse, but it's RHEL 3:1 from what he's seen | Mar 06 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | says he's never seen a customer using Ubuntu :) | Mar 06 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I watched a programme about how USA citizens see Canada you are unreconstructed European socialists :-) | Mar 06 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has already demonstrated that they can't stand behind Ubuntu | Mar 06 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | so it goes to reason, "Why pay them to?" | Mar 06 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen people get good results from deploying Ubuntu Server in a low workload capacity | Mar 06 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | but I've never seen super computing projects using it | Mar 06 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 06 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @askmeaks A 13 Line #Patch That Boosts #Intel Sandy Bridge Performance http://bit.ly/dQjJg9 #Driver #Linux #MESA #fb | Mar 06 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @askmeaks Back up #Email with a Single #Command http://bit.ly/e5hz82 #IMAPGrab #Email #OpenSource #Python #Script #fb | Mar 06 20:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] satipera BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in not giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 06 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Forget Saudi Arabia forget Bahrain concentrate on #Libya #westernhypocracy #hyper | Mar 06 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] stumbled across a glorious dark #GTK theme http://tighturl.com/2zm8 | Mar 06 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @StoryADayMay: RT @TheWritersDen: You fail only if you stop writing. ~ Ray Bradbury #WriterBlood | Mar 06 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter No it is not we all do | Mar 06 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The west does not give a wet shite about democracy, perhaps it is better to join in with the Arab uprising. | Mar 06 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] She nodded back. “So you might also merit the Goddess’ protection. #amwriting | Mar 06 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Obama Rescinds Dangerous Bush-Era "Conscience Regulation" http://ur1.ca/3er15 #abortion #healthcare #PlannedParenthood #religion | Mar 06 20:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66290348 | Mar 06 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:36:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Actually Meego and WebOS needed to get going on tablets last year. Read today's 4k opus... | Mar 06 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66290417 | Mar 06 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:38:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Quoted Mary Jo a lot, sice she's the Microsoft expert. Conclusion, WIndows for ARM has been in the works since summer 2009. | Mar 06 21:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lazyweb: who owns or runs condosingapore.com? #fb | Mar 06 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66300725 | Mar 06 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:04:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you pls follow us here & on Twitter? This is @einfeldt posting about FOSS in schools | Mar 06 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh, nice! | Mar 06 21:07 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66300807 | Mar 06 21:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:05:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you also consider doing a blog about our work putting computers in public schools? Thx either way Partimus.org | Mar 06 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/44552739207909376 | Mar 06 21:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @dredeyedick: @schestowitz Al Jazeera - English, Russia Today, BBC4, @FrontlineClub more, free, download http://livestation.com desktop app. #news | Mar 06 21:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "By using Free Open Source Software and repurposed hardware, we aim to do our part to help bridge the digital divide." http://partimus.org/ | Mar 06 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes for the new !techbytes episode are now out http://ur1.ca/3erdd | Mar 06 21:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LFS 6.8 Release http://ur1.ca/3erdz #linux from scratch that is.. great stuff! | Mar 06 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pastebin #Plasma widget http://ur1.ca/3erep very handy! #kde desktop is fantastic, give it a try, | Mar 06 21:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Slur “Open Core”: Toward More Diligent Analysis http://ur1.ca/3eriw #opencore is hardcore marketing, not value | Mar 06 21:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Things OS X Does Better than #Linux http://ur1.ca/3erna someone can respond with 50 things #gnu Linux does better than #MacOSuX | Mar 06 21:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Post: Tiny Core 3.5 http://ur1.ca/3ero2 I was gonna install that, it quickly gains status | Mar 06 21:40 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: on the 5 things OS X does better. Really we should not fight them that much. A lot should be taken as goals to achive. | Mar 06 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @jonobacon helps openwash #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3eh0z what about b0ng, silver lie, OOXML, #swpats aggression? Open...to interpretation | Mar 06 21:41 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: systemd coming to Linux is based on Apple service management because it was better. | Mar 06 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sunshineejc #LIBYA IS BURNING!~IS ANYONE WATCHING?: ~ 1000+ protesters killed from helicopters & roof top snipers. #jan25 #feb17 #P2 | Mar 06 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ...Mexican history - #Nahua civlisation is 12,000 yrs old!! - with a segue into the crazy intertwined fates of Brazil & Portugal | Mar 06 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I did not know that... | Mar 06 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @wwwuse: How will Microsoft lose a majority market share? Outlook from an investment site http://t.co/GV3BzuA | Mar 06 21:45 | |
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| gnufreex | good morning | Mar 06 22:14 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 06 22:14 |
| oiaohm | Good afternoon. gnufreex | Mar 06 22:16 |
| gnufreex | Lol. Ms troll claims he's an RHCE and fails hard: http://forums.channelregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/#c_1003372 | Mar 06 22:16 |
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| gnufreex | I almost sprayed coffee all over the keyboard | Mar 06 22:18 |
| gnufreex | So funny | Mar 06 22:18 |
| oiaohm | And this is not the first time Redhat has done this. | Mar 06 22:18 |
| oiaohm | In the time of the Mandrake Redhat split. gnufreex | Mar 06 22:18 |
| oiaohm | yes it did ruin Mandrake stablish kernel back then. | Mar 06 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Ie Redhat has just reverted. | Mar 06 22:19 |
| gnufreex | You mean, when Bruce Perens complained that RH kernel is too different? | Mar 06 22:20 |
| oiaohm | If you are thinking 1996 we are on the same wave lengh. | Mar 06 22:22 |
| gnufreex | Hmm.. no. | Mar 06 22:22 |
| gnufreex | This is 2001 | Mar 06 22:22 |
| oiaohm | Bruce Perens complained a few times. | Mar 06 22:22 |
| gnufreex | or so | Mar 06 22:22 |
| oiaohm | First complain from him was at the start of the mandrake/redhat split. | Mar 06 22:23 |
| gnufreex | I touched GNU/Linux first time about then | Mar 06 22:23 |
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| gnufreex | What RH did here is smart | Mar 06 22:23 |
| gnufreex | Only problem is that Debian could have little problems. | Mar 06 22:24 |
| oiaohm | Its legal. | Mar 06 22:24 |
| gnufreex | With tracking patches. | Mar 06 22:24 |
| gnufreex | Off course is legal | Mar 06 22:24 |
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| oiaohm | Really is not a big problem either. | Mar 06 22:24 |
| gnufreex | But I don't get why people complain that much | Mar 06 22:25 |
| gnufreex | It is not problem at all | Mar 06 22:25 |
| gnufreex | Ethically they are fine too | Mar 06 22:25 |
| gnufreex | And they are not lying about anything, Brian Stevens admited everything. | Mar 06 22:26 |
| gnufreex | Some claim they clash with spirit of GPL | Mar 06 22:27 |
| gnufreex | But I don't see how. | Mar 06 22:27 |
| gnufreex | If they didn't do before, this move doesn't bring them against spirit of GPL. | Mar 06 22:28 |
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| MinceR | well, the patches would be the preferred form to make modificiations, would they not? | Mar 06 22:34 |
| oiaohm | http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=119 This is rare a case alteration that makes me kinda want. | Mar 06 22:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Patches would be preferable. But it also means snooping at other peoples homework as well | Mar 06 22:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Maybe a source compare and patch solver might be invented. | Mar 06 22:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to make deal with embed device dumps simpler. | Mar 06 22:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rkallensee RT @evan: Ooh. https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus #nodejs #ostatus #fsw #looksawesome | Mar 06 23:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Ping me on twitter @eschnou <== Ho irony :-)" - https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus < he is also on Identi.ca /cc: @evan @rkallensee | Mar 06 23:06 | |
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| gnufreex | google can remove stuff from people's phones? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/google_remotely_kills_android_malware_apps/ | Mar 06 23:27 |
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| MinceR | yes they can | Mar 06 23:28 |
| MinceR | it's in the android market agreement | Mar 06 23:29 |
| gnufreex | i am glad I didn't buy Android phone. | Mar 06 23:29 |
| MinceR | though not many details were published, so it's possible that they could technically remove anything | Mar 06 23:29 |
| MinceR | i'm glad too, except i bought a symbian phone and that isn't good either | Mar 06 23:29 |
| MinceR | i wonder if one can disable the killswitch after rooting... | Mar 06 23:29 |
| gnufreex | I still have a dumbphone | Mar 06 23:30 |
| gnufreex | from Nokia | Mar 06 23:30 |
| gnufreex | Some odd number | Mar 06 23:30 |
| gnufreex | forgot what | Mar 06 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hitting the B$A will clue bats continues to be a lost cause - http://ur1.ca/3d6g6 #fb | Mar 06 23:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I did not make my goal (uploading final ms) but new scenes are done. (more work than I thought), putting me a day behind schedule. :( | Mar 06 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning @kevie and good night !identiverse | Mar 06 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now using mutt as an email client, liking it so far. !linux | Mar 06 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now its time to setup a .screenrc file. | Mar 06 23:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/44645021160448000 | Mar 06 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz: I have literally no idea what your last tweet actually means. English? :-) | Mar 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz | The point was, Facebook is *very* proprietary (and being partly owned by Microsoft it promotes Microsoft wares) but wants "open" image | Mar 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44639295063068672 | Mar 07 00:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: "...Windows has 75% PC market share..." that's an interesting figure lower than usually quoted do you know the source? | Mar 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I wondered the same thing.... | Mar 07 00:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #WikiLeaks: US pressured 'allies' to ignore, not prosecute US kidnappings, #torture programmes http://t.co/OuquJXl | Mar 07 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget Gaddafi. Blair's new best friend is a despot guilty of even bloodier slaughter - http://bit.ly/gwDPYx Daily Mail, but still.. #blair | Mar 07 00:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook and open source: 'we've come a long way' - http://bit.ly/hgvb4Q useful reminder that #Facebook depends on #opensource | Mar 07 00:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience." - Slashdot MOTD !q | Mar 07 00:10 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: 75 percent I have seen as a quoted number when all x86 hardare total is counted. | Mar 07 00:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/dEgl5f and how #sony #freespeech | Mar 07 00:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #DNA rules will restore public trust - http://bit.ly/fr3nPN sad to see Labour pushing its tired authoritarian #FUD here | Mar 07 00:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Share a YouTube Video? Go to Jail - http://bit.ly/i6vWu1 petition about Bryan McCarthy & ICE overreach #linking | Mar 07 00:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Costs of #DNA #Sequencing Falling Fast – Look At These Graphs! - http://bit.ly/hwJAPW people are not ready for the implications of this | Mar 07 00:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] FUCK OFF LINKEDIN. | Mar 07 00:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Chain of Fools: Upgrading through every version of windows" lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14 #fb | Mar 07 00:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @graziano #Google flips #Android kill switch, destroys a batch of malicious apps: http://ur1.ca/3eu0m | Mar 07 00:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Video - QWassr for NOKIA N900 - A Quick Demo of My Favorite Twitter client http://t.co/Lkj1Dzw @qwassr | Mar 07 00:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forbes Estimates M$ Down to 75% Share of PCs http://ur1.ca/3eu8f #gnu #linux #mac #apple #windows | Mar 07 00:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat corporate timeline http://ur1.ca/3eu9j Red Hat acquired AOL's Netscape server software for about $25 million in cash in September" | Mar 07 00:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: PadOrbiter v2: Joggler Orbiter built atop MeeGo http://youtu.be/ZRKkqxWcytI?a via @tschak | Mar 07 00:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Denver Museum promotes #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/3eu9p 'in this case it just said “Linux”.' #mozilla #advocacy | Mar 07 00:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best Lightweight #GNU #Linux Distro http://ur1.ca/3eub6 "..bootable live USB stick for itself, it can also be installed to local hard drive" | Mar 07 01:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD needs fresh Blood! http://ur1.ca/3eubl cute devil *needs* "fresh blood" #bsd #freedom | Mar 07 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Open Source Software has been a huge blessing to the software community and businesses in general." http://ur1.ca/3eucl #pakistan #freedom | Mar 07 01:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Crowdsourced is not Open Source: I’ve heard quite a few conversations that treat open source interchangeably w... http://wmk.me/dKwc3y | Mar 07 01:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older Android versions http://ur1.ca/3es44 fragme^H^H^H^Hversity #android #linux #choice | Mar 07 01:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of#Motorola #Xoom http://ur1.ca/3eue2 "Don't jump for the Xoom just because it's the first—they rushed it out prematurely" #linux | Mar 07 01:06 | |
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| gnufreex | geeking | Mar 07 01:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 RC two days away. Final date unknown, still. | Mar 07 01:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ovidius: @carlopiana Maybe someone can explain me why having to assign Google the right to remote kill apps does not violate the GPL #GQ! | Mar 07 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44686079386857472 | Mar 07 01:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: Now we need those Corp's & individuals to admit that it's not just Windows & Mac but that this Linux thing actually exists! | Mar 07 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Indeed | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Boy people don't get it. | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | First generations of a device are always sux | Mar 07 01:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share | Mar 07 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Mar 07 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why a Xoom? http://ur1.ca/3euk2 not as negative as Fox Technica #xoom #motorola #linux #android #tablet #formfactor | Mar 07 01:20 | |
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| schestowitz | It's not *that* bad, is it? | Mar 07 01:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: Next after #Natty? The #Oneiric Ocelot! http://goo.gl/O0r4P | Mar 07 01:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older !Android versions http://goo.gl/SaKgK | Mar 07 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In Unity [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/gb9oHV | Mar 07 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Clement: Access to the Internet "fast becoming" crucial part of social and economic fabric of the country. #UBB | Mar 07 01:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In !Unity http://goo.gl/lY4zO !Ubuntu #Natty | Mar 07 01:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: Google Summer of Code 2011 for !GNOME & openSUSE http://goo.gl/6jgZv | Mar 07 01:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can turn this #nov4 around | Mar 07 01:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Launch Party in Prague http://goo.gl/5nmq7 | Mar 07 01:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu on CR-48! Windows 7 Launcher on Android, and Copyright Infringement Sucks [3/6/11 Vlog] http://ur1.ca/3eut4 #chromeos | Mar 07 01:36 | |
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| gnufreex | Of course, Xoom has NVIDIA GPU so no Free drivers. | Mar 07 01:40 |
| gnufreex | Motorola sucks badly. | Mar 07 01:40 |
| gnufreex | They could use Freescale | Mar 07 01:40 |
| gnufreex | But they don't have gpu | Mar 07 01:40 |
| gnufreex | PowerVR also do't have free drivers | Mar 07 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: btw | Mar 07 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not really right to call it an nvidia gpu | Mar 07 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia bought those arm gpus through buying a company | Mar 07 01:44 |
| gnufreex | It has GPU on SoC | Mar 07 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not related to actual geforces at all | Mar 07 01:44 |
| gnufreex | oh thatr | Mar 07 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, geforces are pretty shitty, but these are worse | Mar 07 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're really inferior to powervrs | Mar 07 01:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/pcWcL | Mar 07 01:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont know why anyone is building on the tegra platform | Mar 07 01:45 |
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| Diablo-D3 | its a pile of shit all around | Mar 07 01:45 |
| gnufreex | I thought it had couple of GF shaders | Mar 07 01:45 |
| gnufreex | But it seems you'r right | Mar 07 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | not quite | Mar 07 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're kind of backro-genering their own shit | Mar 07 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | to make it suck less | Mar 07 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | they'd be better off making an ultra-ulv geforce | Mar 07 01:46 |
| gnufreex | But still, no free driver? | Mar 07 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, you wont see a free driver outside of powervr | Mar 07 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and google is trying to make a big push though the mesa community for a free powervr driver | Mar 07 01:46 |
| gnufreex | There is free driver in the works for Qualcom snapdragon | Mar 07 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and by "big push" I mean shouting through a megaphone until they get it | Mar 07 01:47 |
| gnufreex | That uses some GPU that starts with A | Mar 07 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: yeah but fuck snapdragons | Mar 07 01:47 |
| gnufreex | Adreno | Mar 07 01:47 |
| gnufreex | That's name of GPU | Mar 07 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate Adrenos | Mar 07 01:47 |
| gnufreex | They bought that from AMD | Mar 07 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but amd bought it from someone else | Mar 07 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, ati did | Mar 07 01:48 |
| gnufreex | I don't know much about embeded GPUs.. | Mar 07 01:48 |
| gnufreex | Is there any more companies? | Mar 07 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | ati bought somebody, it became the ati imageon, then amd bought ati, then amd sold it to qualcomm | Mar 07 01:48 |
| gnufreex | I know just about those | Mar 07 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the same way the goforce is absolutely not related to geforces, the imageon isnt a radeon | Mar 07 01:49 |
| gnufreex | Matrox could make embeded GPU, they fall behind on everytging, you would think they can use smallest manufacturing process posible and it would fit in cell phone :-) | Mar 07 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 01:50 |
| gnufreex | It is crappy | Mar 07 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is probably going to destroy that entire market | Mar 07 01:50 |
| gnufreex | So it fits | Mar 07 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and no, you're just describing the powervr evolution | Mar 07 01:51 |
| gnufreex | Fusion is x86 | Mar 07 01:51 |
| gnufreex | sucks | Mar 07 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is quasi-x86 | Mar 07 01:51 |
| MinceR | what, fusion will ship with drivers that work? :> | Mar 07 01:51 |
| gnufreex | how do you mean quasi | Mar 07 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: erm, it had working drivers before fusion existed | Mar 07 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: fusion uses almost normal 5xxx cores | Mar 07 01:52 |
| gnufreex | it is full x86 | Mar 07 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: AMD is extremely good at making a fast small x86 decoder | Mar 07 01:52 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: he hates x86 and is an amd fan, so it can't be x86, obviously :> | Mar 07 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and they may end up just making the K10 RISC language accessable in future versions | Mar 07 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | its already accessable in some products, just not consumer ones | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and ARM is kind of shit now | Mar 07 01:53 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 dream on | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like how it evolved | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | dream on what? | Mar 07 01:53 |
| MinceR | nobody cares what you like :> | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize K7, K8, and K10 are all RISC cores, right? | Mar 07 01:53 |
| gnufreex | They will not make RISC acessible | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they already _did_ make it accessible | Mar 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 01:53 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 I know it is RISC core | Mar 07 01:53 |
| gnufreex | But it is not full | Mar 07 01:53 |
| gnufreex | it is very crappy RISC core | Mar 07 01:54 |
| gnufreex | mutated and all | Mar 07 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not crappy at all] | Mar 07 01:54 |
| gnufreex | It is not real RISC. | Mar 07 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, its even realer RISC than ARM is | Mar 07 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only instructions that exist are for hardware features | Mar 07 01:54 |
| gnufreex | It is like when you bread elephant and a snake | Mar 07 01:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | if the hardware does not explicitly do it, theres no op for it | Mar 07 01:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/3/2011: Forbes Says Microsoft’s Market Share is Down to 75%, Linux 2.6.38 is Coming, Xoom Reviews Out http://ur1.ca/3ev0v | Mar 07 01:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Forbes Says Microsoft’s Market Share is Down to 75%, Linux 2.6.38 is Coming, Xoom Reviews Out http://ur1.ca/3ev0v !techrights | Mar 07 01:55 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the x86 decoder is part of the instruction scheduler frontend, its not part of the core. | Mar 07 01:55 |
| gnufreex | So, how many registers core really has? | Mar 07 01:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | well, earlier K8s have something like 40 | Mar 07 01:56 |
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| Diablo-D3 | K10s have upped it | Mar 07 01:56 |
| MinceR | afaik RISC is supposed to have simpler instruction scheduling than that | Mar 07 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: simple is the wrong word | Mar 07 01:56 |
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| gnufreex | x86 can only see 16 registers in long mode (x86-64) | Mar 07 01:56 |
| gnufreex | and 8 in 32-bit mode | Mar 07 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: it can see 16 normal registers, sure | Mar 07 01:56 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 cubexyz MinceR | Mar 07 01:56 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to tessier_ | Mar 07 01:56 | |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Mar 07 01:56 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but you forgot SSE2 registers | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | screw SSE | Mar 07 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | ... | Mar 07 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | you fail at CPU design forever. | Mar 07 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow, all the registers seen from the x86 side are all virtualized | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | SSE should not be in core | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | That is x86 brainfuck | Mar 07 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're just instructions | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | NEON if off core | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | VIS is off core | Mar 07 01:57 |
| gnufreex | altiVec is off core | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | AMD does not have a core for SSE | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just instructions. | Mar 07 01:58 |
| gnufreex | That is what I am saying | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt do the Intel brainfuck by dedicating a whole ALU subsystem for it | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, what you're saying is you fail at CPU design | Mar 07 01:58 |
| gnufreex | They have SSE in normal core | Mar 07 01:58 |
| gnufreex | integrated | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, because SSE _is normal instructions_ | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing to intergrate | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is no special hardware in the RISC core for SSE. | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | none. | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | at. | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | all. | Mar 07 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | its decoded by the instruction decoder and properly scheduled for an optimized case. | Mar 07 01:59 |
| gnufreex | It has separate pipeline | Mar 07 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope, it actually doesnt | Mar 07 02:00 |
| gnufreex | and it is pretty separated in every RISC | Mar 07 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize the RISC core has like 4 ALUs, right? | Mar 07 02:00 |
| gnufreex | not every | Mar 07 02:00 |
| gnufreex | but yes | Mar 07 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, Im talking the K10 here | Mar 07 02:00 |
| gnufreex | oh | Mar 07 02:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | the scheduler just farms them out | Mar 07 02:00 |
| gnufreex | I was talking about general RISC designs | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why ARM fails, btw | Mar 07 02:01 |
| gnufreex | I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 02:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | you may now shut the fuck up. | Mar 07 02:02 |
| gnufreex | I won't shut the fuck up | Mar 07 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you dont understand how the K10 is designed, then you have no right to say shit about it. | Mar 07 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | Guess what asshat, its better designed than that abortion ARM is peddling | Mar 07 02:02 |
| gnufreex | I know that all RISCx86 hybrids are fucked up | Mar 07 02:02 |
| gnufreex | All | Mar 07 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | The only thing AMD needs to do is sell the core naked decoupled from the x86 decoder | Mar 07 02:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its not a hybrid | Mar 07 02:03 |
| MinceR | but they don't do that | Mar 07 02:03 |
| gnufreex | It won't work. | Mar 07 02:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are decade old super computing clusters that use them in K8 RISC mode | Mar 07 02:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they're quite happy with them | Mar 07 02:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | gcc even has a native target for them, and linux boots on them | Mar 07 02:03 |
| gnufreex | hmm | Mar 07 02:03 |
| gnufreex | I must try that. | Mar 07 02:04 |
| gnufreex | Where can I find it? | Mar 07 02:04 |
| MinceR | how do they switch the k8 into risc mode? is it like switching to protected mode? | Mar 07 02:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | you need a special bios for it | Mar 07 02:04 |
| gnufreex | Where is it? | Mar 07 02:04 |
| MinceR | pft | Mar 07 02:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: its on boards you cant buy. | Mar 07 02:04 |
| gnufreex | Oh.. | Mar 07 02:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | only people who buy them from AMD get to have that. | Mar 07 02:04 |
| gnufreex | so you are bullshiting me | Mar 07 02:04 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | so unless you're ordering a 5000 cpu cluster, nope, not yours. | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | not at all | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not for consumers | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said that about 10 mintues ago | Mar 07 02:05 |
| gnufreex | ok | Mar 07 02:05 |
| gnufreex | I thought I will have some fun | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | but almost all the AMD clusters on the top 500 are not running in x86 mode | Mar 07 02:05 |
| MinceR | that can hardly be called "accessible", can it? | Mar 07 02:05 |
| gnufreex | Have one Phenom II here, but no | Mar 07 02:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: what gnufreex was saying is AMD never did this | Mar 07 02:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and AMD already did | Mar 07 02:06 |
| MinceR | except not really | Mar 07 02:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:53:42] <Diablo-D3> the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 02:06 |
| MinceR | only to special customers | Mar 07 02:06 |
| MinceR | meanwhile ARM is RISC to all users | Mar 07 02:06 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: Do you have some links and such. I wana see tests | Mar 07 02:06 |
| MinceR | i think that is the point here | Mar 07 02:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM is barely RISC at all now | Mar 07 02:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at what they did to it | Mar 07 02:06 |
| MinceR | i know what they did to it | Mar 07 02:07 |
| MinceR | they basically helped the bandwidth issue :> | Mar 07 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM11, A8, and A9 is ungodly horrid | Mar 07 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a giant ugly chip | Mar 07 02:07 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 yes, Urlich Drreper agrees with you. | Mar 07 02:07 |
| gnufreex | "embeded crap" | Mar 07 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: wow, nice insult there | Mar 07 02:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | go fuck yourself | Mar 07 02:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 02:08 |
| gnufreex | I am not insulting you | Mar 07 02:08 |
| gnufreex | ok, maybe a little | Mar 07 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think you're aware how much I hate Drepper | Mar 07 02:08 |
| gnufreex | I am not | Mar 07 02:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | You are now. | Mar 07 02:08 |
| gnufreex | give some AMD links | Mar 07 02:09 |
| gnufreex | I want to see that RISC mode | Mar 07 02:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | do it yourself. | Mar 07 02:09 |
| gnufreex | I just get links about AM2900 | Mar 07 02:10 |
| gnufreex | Google doesn't know about that thing you talk about | Mar 07 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | hmm googles useless | Mar 07 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ask nenolod about it | Mar 07 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think he might have a copy of the gcc patches too, Im not sure | Mar 07 02:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 named #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/19ghB | Mar 07 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 02:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 named ‘Oneiric Ocelot’ .::. Size~: 26.12 KB | Mar 07 02:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.45 KB | Mar 07 02:11 |
| gnufreex | Wikipedia and Google don't know about it. | Mar 07 02:14 |
| gnufreex | And I don't know how to find nenolod | Mar 07 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | .... | Mar 07 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're fucking me | Mar 07 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | oneiric ocelot? | Mar 07 02:14 |
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| *Diablo-D3 blows up shuttlecock | Mar 07 02:14 | |
| Diablo-D3 | this man needs to be stopped | Mar 07 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | before he destroys linux any further | Mar 07 02:15 |
| gnufreex | Who? | Mar 07 02:15 |
| gnufreex | YOu don't make any senses | Mar 07 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:11:41] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 02:15 |
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| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock | Mar 07 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | needs to be stopped | Mar 07 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all costs | Mar 07 02:15 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 02:15 |
| gnufreex | Shuttleworthless | Mar 07 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock is better | Mar 07 02:16 |
| gnufreex | But it is impolite | Mar 07 02:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock == a tiny little peice of plastic you beat with a racket | Mar 07 02:17 |
| gnufreex | Ahh | Mar 07 02:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/photo/shuttlecock.jpg | Mar 07 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 02:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | what a shuttlecock might look like | Mar 07 02:17 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton | Mar 07 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Badminton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 141.24 KB | Mar 07 02:17 |
| MinceR | and its arch enemy, Goodminton | Mar 07 02:18 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 02:19 |
| gnufreex | We better think something that is really "impolite" since shuttlecock is politeness zealot. | Mar 07 02:19 |
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| MinceR | more like politeness hypocrite | Mar 07 02:20 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. | Mar 07 02:20 |
| gnufreex | Saying "Fedora is RHEL's open core" makes him like Bill Gates when said "nobody can improve GPL software". Lying with straight face. | Mar 07 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Mar 07 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | I would like to say thats full of shit | Mar 07 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | Fedora is RHEL without the enterprise support | Mar 07 02:22 |
| gnufreex | so | Mar 07 02:22 |
| gnufreex | ? | Mar 07 02:22 |
| MinceR | no, that's CentOS | Mar 07 02:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite | Mar 07 02:22 |
| MinceR | Fedora is the testing to RHEL's stable :> | Mar 07 02:22 |
| gnufreex | Fedoa is oposite of open core | Mar 07 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets try this a different way | Mar 07 02:23 |
| gnufreex | Rhel is subset of Fedora | Mar 07 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel isnt closed. | Mar 07 02:23 |
| gnufreex | They take out stuff. | Mar 07 02:23 |
| MinceR | fedora doesn't even have the 'hide your work' policy to kernel patches | Mar 07 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | open core implies its paired with closed source shit | Mar 07 02:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel is open. | Mar 07 02:23 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 That is what I am saying. RHEL is open. Shuttlewroth says it is closed. | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats irony | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu is closed | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they ship with mono in the default install | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono is closed source | Mar 07 02:24 |
| gnufreex | Mono is bait source | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its closed source. | Mar 07 02:24 |
| MinceR | it's nonfree | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more nonfree than normal nonfree | Mar 07 02:24 |
| gnufreex | If it was closed, we would not have problems | Mar 07 02:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 07 02:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | nonfree stuff usually doesnt get you sued. | Mar 07 02:24 |
| gnufreex | It would be out | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono WILL get you seud | Mar 07 02:25 |
| gnufreex | I hope Attackmate close it. | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft can sue you just for _using_ it as an end user | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is why Java isnt the same thing... | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant fight Java. | Mar 07 02:25 |
| MinceR | patent lawsuits can apply to the user? | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java isnt a Sun product | Mar 07 02:25 |
| MinceR | java is an obstacle product | Mar 07 02:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a product of the java community | Mar 07 02:25 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 Problem with Mono is that it won't get you sued. It will get you bullied. | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java belongs to Apache, Jboss, and everyone else too | Mar 07 02:26 |
| gnufreex | MSFT has no guts to sue. | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no Mono Community Process | Mar 07 02:26 |
| gnufreex | They want to bully ad infinitum | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why Mono will always be closed source: no one fights for it | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | its patentware, and no one cares | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | Mono is of no value | Mar 07 02:26 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: i think they'll have to back up their threats eventually | Mar 07 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | we already have Java, and it works better; why do we need a slower more bloated clone? | Mar 07 02:27 |
| MinceR | with a lawsuit | Mar 07 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and btw, yes, you CAN be sued, as a user | Mar 07 02:27 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it was Not Invented Here, obviously. | Mar 07 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft just has to make up shit | Mar 07 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and also, there are no non-MS impls of C# | Mar 07 02:27 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft is like insecure fat kid that bullies everyone. eventually someone kicks his ass and fatso goes crying to momy. | Mar 07 02:27 |
| MinceR | they still infringe | Mar 07 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres at least 5 fully functional JVMs out there | Mar 07 02:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | apache harmony and dalvik being two of them | Mar 07 02:28 |
| MinceR | if not core "c#", then the libraries | Mar 07 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] thanks to !fsfe's new intern @natalissy "#Democracy requires !freesoftware" now available in Russian http://ur1.ca/3eve9 | Mar 07 02:28 | |
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| MinceR | google is being sued for dalvik, though | Mar 07 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, using invalid patents | Mar 07 02:28 |
| MinceR | kind of puts a damper on java's openness | Mar 07 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is what I was saying | Mar 07 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is standing up for Mono | Mar 07 02:28 |
| MinceR | it's not as bad as mono, but it's still pretty bad | Mar 07 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | because Mono does, and always will belong to Microsoft | Mar 07 02:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle == Microsoft | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the same fucking shit | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | rich people trying to destroy the hard work of others | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java is 10 years of hard work | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | not just by Sun, but by Java coders everywhere | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | when Sun GPL'ed it, that was Sun's promise to everyone that Java will be forever | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant destroy that | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a one way trip | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | patents cant stop Java | Mar 07 02:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Oracle is the enemy of Java | Mar 07 02:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | the moment Sun did that, Sun gave Java to everyone | Mar 07 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle is trying to go door to door and barge in and grab it back | Mar 07 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is why sw patents need to be wiped out | Mar 07 02:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Classroom: Summary of Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/wnlYM | Mar 07 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: Last day of !Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/FKUlz | Mar 07 02:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Summary of Ubuntu Developer Week « Ubuntu Classroom Blog .::. Size~: 29.47 KB | Mar 07 02:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | not because of cases like Mono, but cases like Java | Mar 07 02:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last day of UDW | Daniel Holbach’s blog .::. Size~: 22.11 KB | Mar 07 02:31 |
| MinceR | indeed, it is one of the reasons | Mar 07 02:31 |
| MinceR | but mono is another reason, VFAT is yet another | Mar 07 02:32 |
| MinceR | the MPEG-LA cartel is yet another | Mar 07 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | mpeg-la is fucked | Mar 07 02:32 |
| MinceR | it's not fucked fast enough | Mar 07 02:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | DoJ is thinking about smacking them around a bit and make them their bitch | Mar 07 02:32 |
| MinceR | they're still around and they can still do damage | Mar 07 02:32 |
| MinceR | i doubt that an organ of a bitch of the megacorps owning the cartel can really do that | Mar 07 02:33 |
| gnufreex | Larry horn needs to go to jail | Mar 07 02:33 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple will just tell their puppets what to do to the DoJ | Mar 07 02:33 |
| MinceR | (maybe directly the main puppet, obama) | Mar 07 02:33 |
| gnufreex | I think that every company that passes 50bn in revenue should be split | Mar 07 02:34 |
| gnufreex | Megacorporations make huge problems | Mar 07 02:34 |
| MinceR | they'd just cook the books to make revenue seem smaller | Mar 07 02:34 |
| gnufreex | HP should be split, MS should be split, IBM should be split. No exception | Mar 07 02:34 |
| gnufreex | Or find some other metrics | Mar 07 02:34 |
| MinceR | i think the people should not be prevented from forming armed mobs to kill people like ballmer and larry | Mar 07 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | has anyone seen working Pidgin 2.7.x packages for EL 6? | Mar 07 02:35 |
| *DaemonFC scratches his head | Mar 07 02:35 | |
| gnufreex | Did you look EPEL? | Mar 07 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | EPEL has Pidgin Plugin Pack for Pidgin 2.6.6 | Mar 07 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | which comes with RHEL | Mar 07 02:37 |
| MinceR | what's EL/EPEL? | Mar 07 02:37 |
| *gnufreex don't use RHEL6 yet | Mar 07 02:37 | |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | the metric is | Mar 07 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | is the company actively harming smaller companies | Mar 07 02:38 |
| gnufreex | Extra packages for Enterprise Linux MinceR | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | if so | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | split | Mar 07 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Enterprise Linux / Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and as much as you guys bitch | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | its rare companies need to be split | Mar 07 02:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] March Newsletter: Facebook failed revolution, legal news, a lot of love, Document Freedom Day and much more! http://link.fsfe.org/BZ6hxl | Mar 07 02:38 | |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 07 02:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSFE Newsletter - March 2011 .::. Size~: 11.89 KB | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | MS shouldnt be split because they ARENT a monopoly | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | on anything | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all | Mar 07 02:38 |
| MinceR | well, m$ doesn't need to be split, it needs to be dissolved | Mar 07 02:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont sell the most video game machines | Mar 07 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 1, don't use AtRPMS | Mar 07 02:38 |
| MinceR | their assets should be used to offset the damage they've caused | Mar 07 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 2, Use RPM Forge instead :) | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont have the most "normal" computers running their OS | Mar 07 02:39 |
| MinceR | and for the rest of the damage, their upper management should be sent into penal servitude | Mar 07 02:39 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 how come not a monopoly? | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: see above | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft just isnt relevant | Mar 07 02:39 |
| *DaemonFC has AtRPMs there but disabled for a few odd packages | Mar 07 02:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not sure if it ever was | Mar 07 02:39 |
| MinceR | they still keep causing damage | Mar 07 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | it tries to take over your system | Mar 07 02:39 |
| MinceR | remember that mobile phone maker called nokia? | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cause damage, sure | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats about it | Mar 07 02:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they need to be slammed for that | Mar 07 02:39 |
| MinceR | m$ needs to be dissolved so that they can't keep causing damage | Mar 07 02:40 |
| gnufreex | They have a monopoly on WIndows | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they're not Bell | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing TO split | Mar 07 02:40 |
| MinceR | and so that they can't keep corrupting governments | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: windows is just an os | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | most normal computers dont run windows. | Mar 07 02:40 |
| gnufreex | Yes, and some people think Windows is computer | Mar 07 02:40 |
| gnufreex | So Microsoft has monopoly on some people's minds | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | some people think Ford is made in America | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | what do stupid people have to do with this? | Mar 07 02:40 |
| gnufreex | So that is a crime | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the reality is | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is not important | Mar 07 02:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not have a majority in anything useful | Mar 07 02:41 |
| MinceR | m$ is an important threat | Mar 07 02:41 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft dumbed those people | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no, they were born dumb | Mar 07 02:41 |
| gnufreex | Their propaganda | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont blame Microsoft for making people dumb | Mar 07 02:41 |
| MinceR | and so is crApple | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft only took advantage of it | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Windows in normal computers us probably less than a third. | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | *is | Mar 07 02:41 |
| MinceR | and so is obstacle | Mar 07 02:41 |
| gnufreex | Taking advantage of mentaly retarded is crime | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: now that I agree with | Mar 07 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but these people arent conisidered invalids | Mar 07 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | so theres no way there | Mar 07 02:42 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: depends on who you ask | Mar 07 02:42 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft made them invalid with Windows. | Mar 07 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ... | Mar 07 02:42 |
| *Diablo-D3 whacks gnufreex with a bat | Mar 07 02:42 | |
| *gnufreex whacks Diablo back | Mar 07 02:42 | |
| Diablo-D3 | we can have a nice conversation, or we can act like blind FOSS zealots | Mar 07 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is no different than any other large company | Mar 07 02:43 |
| gnufreex | sorry, I was just practicing | Mar 07 02:43 |
| MinceR | actually they are | Mar 07 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not provide anything of use, they make a lot of money, and they try to abuse the system in their favor. | Mar 07 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not a Bell or a Standard Oil | Mar 07 02:43 |
| MinceR | they've abused their monopolies much harder than others and they had monopolies over much more important fields | Mar 07 02:43 |
| gnufreex | Is there a way to set spell checker in Quassell? | Mar 07 02:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not really | Mar 07 02:43 |
| MinceR | computers control most modern technology, m$ nearly gained control of all of that | Mar 07 02:44 |
| gnufreex | I am tired of typos | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're _nothing_ compared to other industries | Mar 07 02:44 |
| MinceR | other industries depend on IT | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: and, in the end, they didnt. | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, most normal computers dont run windows | Mar 07 02:44 |
| MinceR | it was a close shot | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | anda ll the not-normal computers? NONE do. | Mar 07 02:44 |
| MinceR | i don't think that humanity should keep risking such things | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | does your car run windows? or your microsoft? what about your tv? bluray player? nuclear power plant? | Mar 07 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | even your cell phone doesnt. | Mar 07 02:45 |
| MinceR | imagine what would have happened if they managed to implement and push Palladium like they imagined it | Mar 07 02:45 |
| MinceR | some cars do | Mar 07 02:45 |
| MinceR | not mine, of course | Mar 07 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car doesnt | Mar 07 02:45 |
| MinceR | bmw did put winblows ce on some of their cars | Mar 07 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | some sort of interactive panel device runs a hacked up version of winmo | Mar 07 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and winmo isnt windows | Mar 07 02:45 |
| MinceR | that's about as idiotic as it gets when it comes to car design | Mar 07 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | your car doesnt crash because winmo does. | Mar 07 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking car radio | Mar 07 02:46 |
| MinceR | no, it's a lot more than a car radio | Mar 07 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | or a gps device | Mar 07 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt _do_ anything of importants | Mar 07 02:46 |
| MinceR | it takes over a lot of the controls in the car | Mar 07 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really | Mar 07 02:46 |
| MinceR | it controls the heater and the AC, for example | Mar 07 02:47 |
| MinceR | now imagine driving with fully fogged windows | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt | Mar 07 02:47 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem so safe, does it? | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | all it does is pass through the stuff on a dumb serial connection | Mar 07 02:47 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDrive | Mar 07 02:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Mar 07 02:47 |
| MinceR | "allows the driver and front-seat passenger (in recent cars it is available to back-seat passengers as well) to control such amenities as the climate (air conditioner and heater)," | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | and heres the fun part | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive never seen it. | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | ever. | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns bizzaro shit like this | Mar 07 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and btw | Mar 07 02:48 |
| MinceR | well, no one i know owns a bmw | Mar 07 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | that has to pass the law. | Mar 07 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | if theres actually a legitimate issue with it, it would have never been sold | Mar 07 02:48 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: the law doesn't really apply to rich people and companies. | Mar 07 02:48 |
| MinceR | haven't you noticed? | Mar 07 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car's computer itself runs normal car software | Mar 07 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite. | Mar 07 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | because the OTHER companies paid for these laws | Mar 07 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | the current state of car laws is to drive foreign manufacturers out of the US | Mar 07 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you think the media and the government attacked toyota so hard for a problem that didnt exist | Mar 07 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | because they're made in America and the best cars in the world | Mar 07 02:49 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it's usian media and toyota is japanese | Mar 07 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: see | Mar 07 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the hilarity | Mar 07 02:50 |
| MinceR | yanks were desperate because their two darling car companies were struggling | Mar 07 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want American, you buy Toyota. | Mar 07 02:50 |
| MinceR | because they couldn't come up with cars that didn't fucking suck | Mar 07 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want Mexican, you buy Ford, Chrysler, or GM | Mar 07 02:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the laws exist to attack foreign car companies | Mar 07 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | so yes | Mar 07 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | if there was an actual real problem with idrive | Mar 07 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wouldnt have been in production | Mar 07 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and EU car laws are even worse than US ones | Mar 07 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and these giant car panels? | Mar 07 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they may be in violation of the law anyhow | Mar 07 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | even our "domestic" cars | Mar 07 02:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta Fair enough. Not that anyone from that high up in Canonical would talk to me, but I guess you're on record now. | Mar 07 02:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta You gotta understand that it looked a bit suspicious from the outside... | Mar 07 02:53 | |
| Diablo-D3 | so the issue becomes increasingly moot | Mar 07 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | but lets go back to what we were really talking about | Mar 07 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has to _lie_ to appear they have a majority | Mar 07 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | let that sink in a bit | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | they are LYING about their majority | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the implication is, THEY DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY | Mar 07 02:54 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: you're overlooking that the idrive was a vector to ship usian crap | Mar 07 02:54 |
| MinceR | winblows ce | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the money to be made is in all kinds embedded shit, in enterprise, in shit like that | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft doesnt exist there. | Mar 07 02:54 |
| MinceR | of course they won't pick an issue over that | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure, theres wince/winmo/winphone7 | Mar 07 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | but no one owns shit with that in it | Mar 07 02:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | people run linux and vxworks on shit | Mar 07 02:55 |
| MinceR | i'll go eat lunch because the company network is fucked | Mar 07 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | dvd/bluray players, and mp3 players, and tvs, and cars, and routers, and whatever | Mar 07 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they run linux or vxworks | Mar 07 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | military weapons run vxworks | Mar 07 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | sats run vxworks | Mar 07 02:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] https://apps.mozillalabs.com/appdir/ | Mar 07 02:56 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | cell phones are blackberry or linux or whatever | Mar 07 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | game machines, 360 is virtually a failure | Mar 07 02:57 |
| *gnufreex thinks vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 02:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its all wii or DS or ps3 | Mar 07 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns a fucking 360 | Mar 07 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | in all the things that are important for making money | Mar 07 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in none of them | Mar 07 02:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 02:58 | |
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| gnufreex | vxworks is now owned by Intel, so it is dead | Mar 07 02:58 |
| gnufreex | They will put intelisms | Mar 07 02:58 |
| gnufreex | Make it slow on ARM | Mar 07 02:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Mar 07 02:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter if vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 02:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | the fact is its not microsoft's | Mar 07 02:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kinect Controlled Delta-Robot - http://bit.ly/gGHpxi with a dash of #arduino | Mar 07 03:00 | |
| Diablo-D3 | everytime you see the missile camera plow into a terrorist? microsoft had nothing to do with that. | Mar 07 03:00 |
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| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and btw, vxworks is a _b_illion dollar industry | Mar 07 03:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and even if intel did own it, they are so deep under contract they couldnt touch it | Mar 07 03:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | vxworks is what makes the most mission critical of shit function | Mar 07 03:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh the strong emotion of hate reinforced with passion makes that statement quite biblic :) | Mar 07 03:01 | |
| Diablo-D3 | there are competitors, of course | Mar 07 03:01 |
| gnufreex | Nucleus | Mar 07 03:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | but all the competitors arent owned by microsoft either. | Mar 07 03:02 |
| gnufreex | QNX | Mar 07 03:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they dont install QNX on sats and military hardware. | Mar 07 03:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | or nuclear power plants | Mar 07 03:02 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleus_OS | Mar 07 03:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Three announces unlimited data for Pay-As-You-Go customers - http://bit.ly/ed8ytY but unlimited unlimited, or just unlimited? #mobile #data | Mar 07 03:03 | |
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| gnufreex | We need something like that to be FLOSS. | Mar 07 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | bleh | Mar 07 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | all thats boring shit | Mar 07 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | every single thing on that list can be ran with linux | Mar 07 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | except that defibrillator at the bottom | Mar 07 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd rather that be vxworks | Mar 07 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | The Infineon S-Gold2 baseband chip used in Apple's iPhone[9] | Mar 07 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Mar 07 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: but you're missing the point | Mar 07 03:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft has no way in. | Mar 07 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | the most lucrative technology markets are extreme computing (military/space/extremely mission critical), high end enterprise, and games. | Mar 07 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has nothing for the first two, and the last one they failed twice | Mar 07 03:06 |
| gnufreex | They said that for servers | Mar 07 03:06 |
| gnufreex | And they pushed their incompetentce into servers | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in low end enterprise a tiny bit, but not enough to really bother mentioning | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its almost all linux there | Mar 07 03:06 |
| gnufreex | They have more than 50% servers | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and on home computing on the PCs themselves.... thats about it. | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: nope. | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | not even close. | Mar 07 03:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moving beyond the #Microsoft #monoculture - http://bit.ly/hcL7Nq it's the end of an era - but problems will linger on | Mar 07 03:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Protocols mangling... http://xkcd.com/869/ ;-) | Mar 07 03:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC reportedly secures 1 million orders for HTC Flyer - http://bit.ly/i7P4BJ just the start #android #htc | Mar 07 03:06 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | on any actual enterprise, its hard to find windows. | Mar 07 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its on the sub-enterprise shit windows floats around | Mar 07 03:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | just because you're a company with 20 people and have a LAN box doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 03:07 |
| gnufreex | I am not talking "true scotsmen" enterprise, that is hard to define | Mar 07 03:07 |
| gnufreex | Servefs | Mar 07 03:07 |
| gnufreex | *servers | Mar 07 03:07 |
| gnufreex | they have 50% | Mar 07 03:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | servers makes no sense | Mar 07 03:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | lots of people claim to have servers and dont. | Mar 07 03:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 03:08 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | like I said, just because you have 20 people and a "server" doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 03:08 |
| gnufreex | people talked that Windows Server will never sell. And by technical merit, it shouldn't. | Mar 07 03:09 |
| gnufreex | But they made 15bn last year | Mar 07 03:09 |
| gnufreex | from STB division | Mar 07 03:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | which means nothing. | Mar 07 03:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | imagine if Linux wasnt free | Mar 07 03:10 |
| gnufreex | It means they pushed their Jihad over comon reason. | Mar 07 03:10 |
| gnufreex | People shouldn't touch their crap | Mar 07 03:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'd be hundreds of billions | Mar 07 03:10 |
| gnufreex | And they are forced | Mar 07 03:10 |
| gnufreex | By HP and such | Mar 07 03:10 |
| gnufreex | and Dell | Mar 07 03:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe trillions | Mar 07 03:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: not true | Mar 07 03:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | Dell and HP both sell Linux on their enterprise shit | Mar 07 03:11 |
| gnufreex | They sell, but they "recomend" windows | Mar 07 03:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont really recommend anything | Mar 07 03:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sell computers | Mar 07 03:11 |
| gnufreex | Go on site. | Mar 07 03:11 |
| gnufreex | Big letters | Mar 07 03:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares about "a site" | Mar 07 03:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking template | Mar 07 03:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is buying windows on the server | Mar 07 03:12 |
| gnufreex | "Life without walls - Windows 7" | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | so | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the ONLY place | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the _ONLY_ place | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft ever took off | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | was on the desktop | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | which makes no real money | Mar 07 03:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have no clue how Microsoft got so big, but it wasnt from selling Windows. | Mar 07 03:12 |
| gnufreex | I tihnk it is stiupidest marketing phrase ever | Mar 07 03:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | all marketing phrases are stupid | Mar 07 03:13 |
| gnufreex | Where you put Windows 7 if you don't have wall? | Mar 07 03:13 |
| gnufreex | Nobody will put it on computer | Mar 07 03:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: maybe its some sort of all glass house | Mar 07 03:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How To Add MinimizeAnd Maximize Buttons Back In Gnome Shell ~ Web Upd8 http://ping.fm/ijUV3 | Mar 07 03:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really wish Facebook and Skype weren't going to work together http://ping.fm/elnsG | Mar 07 03:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I'm guessing you're taking my joke it a bit more seriously than I ever expected. I'm sorry to have irked you :) | Mar 07 03:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh full ack, agree and subscribe. :) Did you ever read asimov's short story Nightfall? Interesting view on religion there :) | Mar 07 03:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh Lighten up :) Everytime you loose the sense of humour a kitten dies! | Mar 07 03:23 | |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: wrt k10 risc, Bul | Mar 07 03:24 |
| gnufreex | bulldozer will have different ISA? | Mar 07 03:24 |
| gnufreex | Internal one that is? | Mar 07 03:24 |
| gnufreex | I think yes | Mar 07 03:24 |
| gnufreex | They won't bother making that work | Mar 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | no. | Mar 07 03:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Slur “Open Core”: Toward More Diligent Analysis - http://bit.ly/egDdle interesting reflection on a contentious topic #opensource | Mar 07 03:25 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | the radeon cores arent aprt of the cpu core | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're native htx cores in their own right | Mar 07 03:25 |
| gnufreex | You mean, it will have same RISC instructions as K10 | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it IS a k10. | Mar 07 03:25 |
| gnufreex | ? | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, maybe a k11 | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: btw | Mar 07 03:25 |
| gnufreex | Bulldozer is not k10 | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | each one does have slightly different instructions | Mar 07 03:25 |
| gnufreex | It is completely different | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no | Mar 07 03:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not as different as you think | Mar 07 03:25 |
| gnufreex | They don't specify RISC instructions, meaning that they won't bother keeping them compatible | Mar 07 03:26 |
| gnufreex | Nothing runs on that | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they're not compatible largely. | Mar 07 03:27 |
| gnufreex | so it is waste of resources to test | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a specification. | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | as I said above | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have an op for everything the hw does | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no ops for things the hardware doesnt do. | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if they remove something, the op goes | Mar 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they add something, they add an op | Mar 07 03:27 |
| gnufreex | Yeah but Buldozer is significant redesign. I think K7 to K10 had pretty same design. | Mar 07 03:28 |
| gnufreex | But bulldozer is way different | Mar 07 03:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian honoured with LNM award for Outstanding Contribution to Free Software http://ping.fm/KKr2o | Mar 07 03:30 | |
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| gnufreex | I know only those things they published on sites, but there is longer pipeline, fused cores.. | Mar 07 03:30 |
| gnufreex | It is 2 cores like one. | Mar 07 03:30 |
| gnufreex | They first said it will be posible to gang them | Mar 07 03:30 |
| gnufreex | like one | Mar 07 03:31 |
| gnufreex | but they backed away | Mar 07 03:31 |
| gnufreex | That was pipe dream imho | Mar 07 03:31 |
| gnufreex | But it can still gang together two FPUs | Mar 07 03:31 |
| gnufreex | That is nothing new | Mar 07 03:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon outlines #Android bill of rights - http://bit.ly/gP6xX6 interesting details on how #Google & #Amazon use #DRM in their app stores | Mar 07 03:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Any hardcore plone developers looking for a good job with a cool company in Berne, Switzerland? Let me know. #freesoftware #jobs !gnu !fsfe | Mar 07 03:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who herded the cats? - http://bit.ly/h5Gg4m "the future is catching up with us, and we need to free the thinkers again"; nice piece | Mar 07 03:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I feel that pain too, but sometimes we redirect it against the wrong people. Controlling that is... hard. | Mar 07 03:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 395 has been released. This week's featured distro: #ArchBang !Linux 2011 http://goo.gl/a7JBd | Mar 07 03:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Who herded the cats? | Emma Mulqueeny .::. Size~: 38.27 KB | Mar 07 03:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working to fix mapping on the !LO !Minecraft server... Looking good. | Mar 07 03:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Computational X - http://bit.ly/hT0H0M "Computational grass mowing...Computational knitting" er, right... | Mar 07 03:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: There will be a live #LinuxOutlaws recording tonight as usual, folks. 19:00 UTC (ish). Be there! | Mar 07 03:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Next after Natty? - http://bit.ly/fJ9Vcs will be...</drumroll> "Oneiric Ocelot". #shuttleworth explains why "oddball octopus" is out #ubuntu | Mar 07 03:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oneiric Ocelot? Are you SERIOUS???? Nobody can even SAY that! The UbuFAIL just gets harder and harder... #ubuntu | Mar 07 03:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Coming soon: Ubuntu Herpderp | Mar 07 03:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And I thought "Lovelock" was a shit name..... LOL | Mar 07 03:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh meh I reckon you didn't :) | Mar 07 03:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Crowdsourced is not #OpenSource - http://bit.ly/dGwMbi "they are very different, most importantly in the ownership of the outcome" | Mar 07 03:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Towards Pirate Parties International Conference - http://bit.ly/hdHI6v a few places left, apparently | Mar 07 03:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ghana Photographer telling Africa's story through his lens: Independence Day Celebration in Pictures http://ping.fm/WTet3 | Mar 07 03:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Has Domination, #Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vapourware #win8 #android | Mar 07 03:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vaporware #windows8 | Mar 07 03:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #BSA (Microsoft Front), MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds | Mar 07 03:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BSA, MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds #swpats | Mar 07 03:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving houses. Will be back online ASAP. #Sidenote | Mar 07 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] In case you missed it like I did... Nicely done Free Software advertising video: Linspotting http://vimeo.com/15474925 | Mar 07 03:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon outlines !Android bill of rights at the Register http://ping.fm/dKKJ1 | Mar 07 04:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! @th3k4ty has teh minecrafts! :D | Mar 07 04:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] You wouldn’t do this to a dog… - http://bit.ly/gURwD9 how not to do simple local government transactions | Mar 07 04:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got two new people on the Minecrafts this weekend. :P | Mar 07 04:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] /simon_creeper_voice That's a very nice everything you have there..... :P | Mar 07 04:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think #accessibility could B the biggest practical issue 4 Unity, @popey. !Gnome was rlly excellent in that area re: http://bit.ly/fzKHeh | Mar 07 04:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORG's Hargreaves Review submission - http://bit.ly/eI4n4X NB: plus two more reviews we need to submit sensible ideas to... #copyright | Mar 07 04:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with David Hammerstein on #WIPO treaty for persons who are #blind - http://bit.ly/g1ClEy "#France is the most adamant in opposing" | Mar 07 04:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 04:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hacker discovers PS3 3.56 exploit, will not release - scared of Sony? http://ping.fm/Qwa0b | Mar 07 04:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 04:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. Having to re-render the !LO #Minecraft map because the map format changed. It's taking fucking AGES.... Oo | Mar 07 04:21 | |
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| MinceR | re | Mar 07 04:26 |
| MinceR | 121207 < gnufreex> "Life without walls - Windows 7" | Mar 07 04:28 |
| MinceR | i was just thinking | Mar 07 04:28 |
| MinceR | if they have no walls, what the fuck do they need windows for? | Mar 07 04:28 |
| gnufreex | In world without walls and fences, nobody needs Windows and Gates. | Mar 07 04:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !openSUSE, #Banshee and the root of all evil http://ping.fm/YesHo | Mar 07 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Which virtual machine managers are in the !opensuse repos? | Mar 07 04:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Mar 07 04:30 |
| oiaohm | I remember windows 1.0 that had a sanely shape windows picture. | Mar 07 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Future versions had a pciture of a window you would never fit to a house. | Mar 07 04:30 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 04:31 |
| gnufreex | Gates wants to brake your wall | Mar 07 04:31 |
| gnufreex | Here is another interesting thing: | Mar 07 04:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear Google/Youtube, why if I joined the HTML5 you don't use HTML5 as default? #Justasking | Mar 07 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Three good reasons to buy an open-PC - CIO Magazine http://ping.fm/LtZkd | Mar 07 04:31 | |
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| gnufreex | Windows XP had "My Computer" | Mar 07 04:32 |
| gnufreex | Vista had "Computer" | Mar 07 04:32 |
| gnufreex | and W7 too | Mar 07 04:32 |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63gJdqc4j0 | Mar 07 04:32 |
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| MinceR | there's a winblows window in that one | Mar 07 04:32 |
| gnufreex | An now they might put "Microsoft computer" (aka cloud) on W8 | Mar 07 04:32 |
| gnufreex | They are stealing peoples computer | Mar 07 04:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Index on Censorship » Blog Archive » Freedom sacrificed for an easy life, in Apple’s Brave New World http://ping.fm/FuFUB | Mar 07 04:33 | |
| gnufreex | And convincing them that it not their (no My Computer). | Mar 07 04:33 |
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| MinceR | they're climbing your windows | Mar 07 04:34 |
| MinceR | snatching your PCs up | Mar 07 04:34 |
| gnufreex | They steal your hardrive and say: "Go to azure cloud" | Mar 07 04:35 |
| gnufreex | " no need for local storage" | Mar 07 04:35 |
| gnufreex | no, wait, that's google | Mar 07 04:35 |
| MinceR | m$ wants to be google, though | Mar 07 04:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Digia to acquire #Qt commercial licensing business from #Nokia http://goo.gl/bbOy0 !gnu - via @hup | Mar 07 04:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 04:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Nokia sold Qt to Digia. What's the next step? | Mar 07 04:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @popey And I gotta be honest I'm not sure using Psychological terms is a great move (only context I've read it in) | Mar 07 04:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Zoche v Wikipedia jetzt auch beim SPIEGEL im Netzwerkticker - ganz unten: http://ur1.ca/3ewz2 cc @georgzoche @netzpolitik @udovetter | Mar 07 04:45 | |
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| MinceR | looks like Qt is getting into a safer situation then | Mar 07 04:46 |
| gnufreex | who's digia? | Mar 07 04:46 |
| gnufreex | I hope it isn't MSFT Drone | Mar 07 04:47 |
| MinceR | so do i | Mar 07 04:47 |
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| gnufreex | oh crap | Mar 07 04:47 |
| gnufreex | they only sold dual licensing bussines | Mar 07 04:47 |
| gnufreex | they still keep devs | Mar 07 04:47 |
| MinceR | this does mean that another company will at least push them to keep Qt alive and going | Mar 07 04:48 |
| gnufreex | digia will only send sales droids to Qt users to try to collect money. | Mar 07 04:48 |
| MinceR | or not | Mar 07 04:48 |
| MinceR | i guess it's "wait and see" again :> | Mar 07 04:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] At first sight, Digia doesn't look so bad at all: http://goo.gl/i9Tfc | Mar 07 04:50 | |
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| gnufreex | http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/nokia-sells-non-mobile-licensing-ops-to-digia/articleshow/7647386.cms | Mar 07 04:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @toros They only sold non-mobile proprietary licensing business. Development of Qt stays at Nokia. It is not great news. | Mar 07 04:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Firefox 4: Get Tabs In The Title Bar (Like Chrome) http://goo.gl/6g3Hd | Mar 07 05:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I may need a new keyboard soon | Mar 07 05:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Funny. Yet another opening. This time: Capable system administrator with Python skills sought who is willing to work in Zurich. !fsfe !gnu | Mar 07 05:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Dear Universities, are you listening? Free Software competency is almost a job guarantee these days! | Mar 07 05:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-07: Commitment to Open Rbust reply from Red Hat concerning their decision to stop sharing det... http://wmk.me/g4hSXe | Mar 07 05:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Nokia sells #Qt non-mobile proprietary relicensing to #Digia. Rest of Qt (incl. whole dev team) stays at #Nokia http://ur1.ca/3ex82 | Mar 07 05:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 05:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Loving @th3k4ty's #Minecraft dents! :D | Mar 07 05:25 | |
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| GoForbes28 | what is this, techrights without Roy?!! | Mar 07 05:30 |
| gnufreex | GoForbes28 he said yesterday he is bussy... moving | Mar 07 05:31 |
| nisshh | GoForbes28, read his identi.ca he will be back ASAP :) | Mar 07 05:31 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 07 05:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] *now* im happy with my #.screenrc :) | Mar 07 05:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Server is rendering the second zoom level for the map now.... Gods, this is slow! !lo | Mar 07 05:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 05:35 | |
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| GoForbes28 | seriously though, where is roy? I've never seen him completely offline before | Mar 07 05:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nokia sells off commercial and services arm of Qt - http://bit.ly/frBXpt hmmm (v @digitaldownfall) #nokia #qt | Mar 07 05:40 | |
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| nisshh | GoForbes28, read his last dent.... | Mar 07 05:40 |
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| nisshh | o.0 | Mar 07 05:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matt Zimmerman: Listening to users http://goo.gl/w6ICU | Mar 07 05:41 | |
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| oiaohm | Ok QT sold to digia | Mar 07 05:42 |
| gnufreex | Not entire Qt | Mar 07 05:43 |
| gnufreex | just desktop relicensing | Mar 07 05:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenStack Governance Update - http://bit.ly/eZPpQm trying to assuage concerns, maybe... #cloudcomputing #opensource (v @webmink) | Mar 07 05:43 | |
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| gnufreex | The part that never had any meaning for nokia | Mar 07 05:43 |
| gnufreex | and nobody really needs proprietary licenses, since it is LGPL | Mar 07 05:44 |
| MinceR | they might still want support as a service | Mar 07 05:44 |
| gnufreex | Elop could still kill Qt | Mar 07 05:44 |
| oiaohm | http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/07/nokia-and-digia-working-together/ Read more gnufreex | Mar 07 05:45 |
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| MinceR | elop can't kill Qt unless the KDE devs consent to it | Mar 07 05:45 |
| gnufreex | Yeah... I meant damage | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | and now it seems that killing Qt would also need Digia's consent | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | The way this is written sould like trolltech staff are jumping ship. gnufreex | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | well, elop could FUD Qt | Mar 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | sould/sounds | Mar 07 05:45 |
| gnufreex | Yeah I read that oiaohm | Mar 07 05:45 |
| gnufreex | I worry that financials warent dislosed | Mar 07 05:46 |
| gnufreex | It means it is peanuts | Mar 07 05:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU governments could save millions by using #opensource on desktop - http://bit.ly/e2y03b interesting stats in paper (v @kgerloff @ggreve) | Mar 07 05:46 | |
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| gnufreex | hence, it is something irrelevant | Mar 07 05:46 |
| gnufreex | Just misdirection for Elop | Mar 07 05:47 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: Its embeded services as well go to digia | Mar 07 05:47 |
| gnufreex | to say "here, I sold it, so I am not a Trojan" | Mar 07 05:47 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: basically digia will have all the profitable lines of Qt | Mar 07 05:47 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, but they don't have development | Mar 07 05:47 |
| gnufreex | just selling licenses that nobody needs | Mar 07 05:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The FinUSB Suite is a tactical USB device, extracts predefined information from a target PC" - http://bit.ly/hMDqTa nasty (v @dozykraut) | Mar 07 05:48 | |
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| gnufreex | And nokia still has copyright | Mar 07 05:48 |
| gnufreex | Digia just got permision to sell licenses | Mar 07 05:49 |
| gnufreex | Nokia could still sell licenses to undercut them. Unless they agreed that they won't. | Mar 07 05:49 |
| gnufreex | but it doesn't say. | Mar 07 05:49 |
| gnufreex | It is basically nothing | Mar 07 05:49 |
| gnufreex | just to fill the news | Mar 07 05:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Novell Announces Commercially Supported LibreOffice Version http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/novell-commercially-supported-libreoffice/ | Mar 07 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China: #Tibet won't fall apart if Dalai Lama dies - http://bit.ly/hwfeYg i.e. we'll shoot anything that moves | Mar 07 05:50 | |
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| gnufreex | maybe to save them from fork | Mar 07 05:50 |
| gnufreex | to paralyze plans of KDE folks | Mar 07 05:50 |
| gnufreex | if they had plans to fork | Mar 07 05:50 |
| oiaohm | Nokia will keep training. gnufreex | Mar 07 05:52 |
| oiaohm | But the split really puts the KDE guys in the strongest location. | Mar 07 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Because now the QT board could possibly become 1 Nokia 1 Digia and 2 KDE | Mar 07 05:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having leftover pizza... | Mar 07 05:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Such a wonderful day outside. Fucking shame we can't leave the house today. Damn fucking Karneval!!! | Mar 07 05:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Charcoal really makes the starting out in !Minecraft a whole damn of a lot easier.... | Mar 07 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Of the community, not above the community | http://bit.ly/ghgBN9 #strategy #selfless #present | Mar 07 06:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Oil Rush Available for Pre-Oder http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oil-rush-available-for-pre-order/ | Mar 07 06:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm just learning all kinds of new things today :) | Mar 07 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? http://lwn.net/Articles/431705/rss | Mar 07 06:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] another promo piece from #BBC begs the question "exactly who does Rory work for? http://tighturl.com/2zms | Mar 07 06:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rendering Level 4/8..... !LO | Mar 07 06:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @karsten: European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 06:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Don't enable the Fastbugs repository in Scientific Linux, they don't keep it in sync with the 32-bit libraries and you end up conflicting with their official repositories | Mar 07 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 06:14 |
| *DaemonFC just spent a little while digging out some of those updates with the assistance of yumex and rpm -e --nodeps | Mar 07 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] I missed this news. Novell lost $18m in a quarter. http://ur1.ca/3exvy Balmer said no more coupons. | Mar 07 06:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | now of course, had I actually read the documentation before installing this I would know that they recommend not leaving that updates repo enabled, and not using anything from it unless you encounter a bug in a particular package | Mar 07 06:15 |
| *DaemonFC is not known for reading documentation first | Mar 07 06:16 | |
| DaemonFC | No more coupons from SweatyB, just a fire sale from the people who trusted him. | Mar 07 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 06:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems german company Gamma/Elaman sold some nasty spy SW to #Egyp SS - PDF here http://ur1.ca/3exwu via Heise [german] http://ur1.ca/3exwv | Mar 07 06:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, SweatyB will give you a 10% discount on Windows if you agree to buy >1000 site licenses | Mar 07 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | what say you? :) | Mar 07 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | the fastest way to get a concession from Microsoft is to say you're considering Linux | Mar 07 06:20 |
| gnufreex | This is first loss for Novell I know of. They were declining, but had no losses. | Mar 07 06:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nokia sells its Qt licensing business to Digia http://lwn.net/Articles/431708/rss | Mar 07 06:20 | |
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| gnufreex | Now they are in heavy losses. | Mar 07 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | the Marion, Indiana public library uses Red Hat, Microsoft couldn't go low enough to get their business | Mar 07 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | the library actually told them that paying people to support Windows and extra systems to run it would cost them more than using Red Hat even if Windows was free | Mar 07 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | I got a kick out of that | Mar 07 06:20 |
| gnufreex | If sale to Attackmate fails, Novell is going bankrupt fast. | Mar 07 06:21 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i say he already knows where he can put those licenses :> | Mar 07 06:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 06:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, They have the systems set up so that it's one tower with 10 GPUs covers 10 workstations | Mar 07 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | three towers, 30 workstations :) | Mar 07 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was neat, I even got to use Pidgin :) | Mar 07 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] More #elopcalypse ♺ @lxnews: Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 06:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] TechCrunch comments now clipped thanks to Facebook presence: (Steve's Blog): http://bit.ly/gBliEO | Mar 07 06:25 | |
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| oiaohm | gnufreex: funny enough Novell Linux departments are about the only parts growing. | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | I hope attackmate buy fails and Red Hat buys them | Mar 07 06:26 |
| gnufreex | then they could do asset striping and even earn some cash. | Mar 07 06:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @sparks: "I need to upgrade my laptop from !Ubuntu to !Fedora today." #overheardinmyoffice < *EvilGrin* | Mar 07 06:26 | |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 6 is a lot nicer than Debian 6 | Mar 07 06:28 |
| *DaemonFC was having severe kernel latency issues with Debian's stock kernel for one | Mar 07 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Rob Pegoraro - How to decipher tech rumors, the nerd equivalent of celebrity gossip http://wapo.st/f0T179 | Mar 07 06:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @osamak RT @freedomboxfndn Eben Moglen explains the !FreedomBox on CBS Evening News (flash req'd): http://ur1.ca/3exvq or donwload it... | Mar 07 06:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I'm taking Ars Technica off my RSS reader because they advertise for #Microsoft products too much | Mar 07 06:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | SL 6 feels like Fedora without the bugs | Mar 07 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | everything that works right in Fedora is obviously hand picked for RHEL | Mar 07 06:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat changes kernel source distribution in response to Oracle (H): http://bit.ly/egP4Oc | Mar 07 06:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #GlennBeck 's syndicator runs a astroturf-on-demand call-in service for radio programs http://ur1.ca/3ey2u | Mar 07 06:31 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly Fedora is a testing distrobution. Any distribution worse than fedora should be put down. | Mar 07 06:34 |
| oiaohm | Hello the keynote that was against the lca2011 rules have been released. http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4851926/ | Mar 07 06:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bradley Manning Facing Death Charges, Forced to Be Naked Daily http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/bradley-manning-facing-death-charges/ | Mar 07 06:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat: 'Yes, we undercut Oracle with hidden Linux patches' • Channel Register http://bit.ly/fli0Uc | Mar 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I have had it up to here with Perl and Mysql man pages, mailing lists and forums today! | Mar 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] That Was Quick: Nokia Sells Qt Commercial To Digia: Following the announcement less than a month ago that Nokia ... http://bit.ly/hIxFUn | Mar 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @TauxFu: Hacked e-mails show Web's usefulness in dirty-tricks campaigns http://wapo.st/fx0iQl #Wikileaks #HBGary #COC | Mar 07 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] German gov't signs new contract w/ Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3ey5i Anyone have call for tender, copy of contract? #procurement #fail | Mar 07 06:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Ampersands - http://bit.ly/fc8nRE no, really (v @kirstinbutler @michael_nielsen) #webfont #ampersand | Mar 07 06:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, This has been driving me nuts | Mar 07 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | where would I go to get a new Pidgin and Rhythmbox if that's possible? | Mar 07 06:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner ♻ @reiter: @mirkoboehm on #qt, #kde : http://ping.fm/1EaS7. His conclusion: This is a political issue [..]That is why I wi ... | Mar 07 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Microsoft preparing mysterious announcement - Beware the Ideas of March http://bit.ly/gUJVWO #software | Mar 07 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM fires back at Oracle in middleware fray (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/ekaKP3 | Mar 07 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Anthony Rota was lobbied by BELL CANADA on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/dGN6RR | Mar 07 06:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | Pidgin obviously never changes all that much, but the new plug-in pack refuses to work with Pidgin 2.6.6 mostly | Mar 07 06:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @amandapalmer: SOMEONE made very realistic vagina-themed cupcakes for my going-away melbourne dinner. #hot http://twitpic.com/473c1q | Mar 07 06:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat Defends Kernel Code Obfuscation | ITworld http://bit.ly/focgbn | Mar 07 06:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Eighty years ago my father was born. Left us too early. Ciao papà :'-) | Mar 07 06:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Humble Bundle Creator Says Linux Matters http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/humble-bundle-creator-says-linux-matters/ | Mar 07 06:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @OpPinkPower: #OpPinkPower launches March 8, International Women's Day #Anonymiss #Anonymous http://bit.ly/gb9HZz | Mar 07 06:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @oliviachow: Guess who has the worst voting attendance of all MPs in the House of Commons? Missing 59% of votes: http://bit.ly/gZMFaQ #fb | Mar 07 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 06:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: I will be attending a funeral today. The wife of former Parry Sound MPP Lorne Maeck, Ivy Maeck, passed away. | Mar 07 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Humble Bundle Creator Says Linux Matters http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/humble-bundle-creator-says-linux-matters/ | Mar 07 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Samsung announces the portrait QWERTY Galaxy Pro http://goo.gl/hwEo8 !android | Mar 07 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Novell Announces Commercially Supported LibreOffice Version http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/novell-commercially-supported-libreo ... | Mar 07 07:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Interesting day. Last week Libs attacked me 4 announcing policy on Twitter. This week they say I don't have policy... | Mar 07 07:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @lxnews: Bradley Manning Facing Death Charges, Forced to Be Naked Daily http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/bradley-manning-facing-death-charges/ | Mar 07 07:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Liberal critic also cribs from my remarks at Committee on #UBB, claims as his own & says I'm not doing anything! #cheeky | Mar 07 07:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Islam and science: cowed Muslim physicist cancels lecture on evolution: http://t.co/79WSNX0 | Mar 07 07:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | I love that the HPLIP build instructions have it spew crap all over your machine | Mar 07 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | all I really need are the CUPS drivers | Mar 07 07:05 |
| *DaemonFC tweaks this a bit :) | Mar 07 07:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Phil Collins retirement coverage distorted. http://www.philcollins.co.uk/news/breaking-news-message-phil | Mar 07 07:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | System Config Printer is good enough that as long as you have a CUPS driver, all you have to do is turn the printer on | Mar 07 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | their stupid documentation for HPLIP adds 4 MB to the build :) | Mar 07 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | also, I don't have a fax machine | Mar 07 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | and I won't be using it over a network :) | Mar 07 07:08 |
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| GoForbes28 | so gfx, what exactly does the QT "proprietary side" sale mean in terms of negative consequences? | Mar 07 07:22 |
| gnufreex | As it stands, it means nothing | Mar 07 07:22 |
| gnufreex | They just get to resell proprietary licenses to those who want them | Mar 07 07:22 |
| GoForbes28 | Then why is it bad news as you indicated? | Mar 07 07:22 |
| gnufreex | Bad news is that Elop still has Qt | Mar 07 07:23 |
| gnufreex | Nothing changed | Mar 07 07:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Ah, that's why | Mar 07 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with selling proprietary licenses for QT | Mar 07 07:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Still, if they sell it, the company that gets the development "rights" may not be much better | Mar 07 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's not going to lead to a fork, it just means that outfit can use QT without GPL-ing their product | Mar 07 07:23 |
| gnufreex | That is problem too. | Mar 07 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | Opera was using QT for a while like that | Mar 07 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | look at it this way, it funds the salaries of a lot of QT developers at Nokia | Mar 07 07:24 |
| MinceR | they can use Qt without GPL-ing their product anyway | Mar 07 07:24 |
| MinceR | Qt is licensed under LGPL, remember? | Mar 07 07:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Yes | Mar 07 07:24 |
| gnufreex | Qt is LGPL | Mar 07 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Mar 07 07:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Like Wine | Mar 07 07:24 |
| gnufreex | Yes | Mar 07 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | why was Opera using it under a GPL opt-out? | Mar 07 07:24 |
| gnufreex | Not even proprietary companies need license | Mar 07 07:24 |
| gnufreex | They can use LGPL | Mar 07 07:25 |
| MinceR | i see two points to commercial licensing: paid support and the ability to modify Qt without having to include its source code | Mar 07 07:25 |
| gnufreex | Maybe they want to link statically | Mar 07 07:25 |
| gnufreex | For convinience | Mar 07 07:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the LGPL relicensing is recent | Mar 07 07:25 |
| gnufreex | also that | Mar 07 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | they were linking statically when they used it | Mar 07 07:25 |
| MinceR | it happened not long after nokia bought trolltech | Mar 07 07:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Opera now uses GTK, but that isn't LGPL is it? | Mar 07 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's the only way to get consistency or to even guarantee that it will be there | Mar 07 07:25 |
| MinceR | you can statically link LGPL from nonfree code, you just need to include object files of your stuff | Mar 07 07:26 |
| MinceR | so that the user can relink | Mar 07 07:26 |
| gnufreex | If they want to link statically, then they must LGPL their stuff or get a prop license | Mar 07 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | not all distros have QT libraries (a few don't) and the ones that do can modify it in such a way that it would cause bugs in Opera | Mar 07 07:26 |
| MinceR | maybe not even that is required, i'm not sure | Mar 07 07:26 |
| gnufreex | They might link dynamically or use inheritance | Mar 07 07:26 |
| gnufreex | then they don't need license | Mar 07 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | Opera just avoids the problem entirely now and uses its own toolkit | Mar 07 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | and mimics the desktop environment the user is running it in | Mar 07 07:27 |
| GoForbes28 | They are using GTK for GNOME, no? | Mar 07 07:27 |
| GoForbes28 | I meant Opera is | Mar 07 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | no, it just looks like GTK when you run it in GNOME | Mar 07 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually not | Mar 07 07:27 |
| gnufreex | Here is what PJ says on Qt sale | Mar 07 07:28 |
| gnufreex | [PJ: Remember SCO telling the court that in SCO v. Novell that no one ever sells a business without the copyrights? Heh heh. It seems it does happen, eh?] | Mar 07 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | they have three interfaces it can mimic, GTK+, KDE, and generic QT | Mar 07 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | Generic QT is what it falls back to if it can't tell what you're using | Mar 07 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | and in that case, it also falls back to it's built-in file selector | Mar 07 07:29 |
| gnufreex | Problem with this sale is that Elop gets time window he needs | Mar 07 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | you can force it to do this by telling it to use File Selector #4 | Mar 07 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:29 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: gotcha | Mar 07 07:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Opera's kind of an enigma | Mar 07 07:29 |
| gnufreex | He gets to sell those symbian phones | Mar 07 07:29 |
| GoForbes28 | on the one hand, they are proprietary | Mar 07 07:29 |
| gnufreex | And then he don't need Qt anymore | Mar 07 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | QT is 1, GTK+ is 2, KDE is 3 | Mar 07 07:29 |
| GoForbes28 | but on the other, they fight hard for Free standards | Mar 07 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | anything else is as if you selected QT | Mar 07 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason 1 sometimes goes and uses KDE anyway | Mar 07 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | but 4 doesn't | Mar 07 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's nice that it blends in so well though | Mar 07 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome and Firefox insist on looking GTK-ish even under KDE, and using GTK file selector dialogs with mandatory double click | Mar 07 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of a wart when your whole desktop works one way except for one program | Mar 07 07:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Grölende Jugendliche..... :/ | Mar 07 07:31 | |
| gnufreex | I hate single click in KDE | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | First thing I change | Mar 07 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | Opera inherits double click in KDE mimic mode if you select global double click in KDE control panel | Mar 07 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was the one that files the bug on that :) | Mar 07 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | *filed | Mar 07 07:32 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex: Someone was using too much Windows 98 | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | I used too much gnome | Mar 07 07:33 |
| GoForbes28 | No, I meant the KDE developers | Mar 07 07:33 |
| gnufreex | I think Windows 98 has double click | Mar 07 07:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows 98, AFAIK, was the first "OS" to use the single click B.S | Mar 07 07:33 |
| GoForbes28 | As part of the "web integration" | Mar 07 07:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Though I don't think it was enabled by default | Mar 07 07:34 |
| gnufreex | Ah | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Opera does not work on Windows 98 natively since version 9.62 | Mar 07 07:34 |
| gnufreex | I am sure it was not enable | Mar 07 07:34 |
| gnufreex | d | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | but 10 and 11 work if you have KernelEx | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | obviously that's not supported | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | could eat babies | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell are you doing on Windows 98? | Mar 07 07:34 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex: Who wants to know? | Mar 07 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | yada yada... | Mar 07 07:34 |
| MinceR | eating babies. | Mar 07 07:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows 98 is just 95 with crap built on | Mar 07 07:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Pretty much like every Microsoft operating system since then | Mar 07 07:35 |
| gnufreex | must go | Mar 07 07:35 |
| GoForbes28 | It's a dump, growing since '93 | Mar 07 07:35 |
| gnufreex | brb | Mar 07 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 = Windows 95 OSR 2.1 with IE 4 welded on, and that will be another $99 thanks much | Mar 07 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | IE 4 was actually the most expensive web browser ever sold if you think about it that way | Mar 07 07:36 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 07:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ich HASSE Karneval! !Bonn | Mar 07 07:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: http://imgur.com/wYfOM.jpg That's pretty cheap, considering the rarity. #minecraft | Mar 07 07:36 | |
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| GoForbes28 | especially since it requires a Windows liscense to run "legally" | Mar 07 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | I avoided Windows 98 like a plague, I kept my 95 OSR 2.1 disc near and dear | Mar 07 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | used that more or less all the time until 2000 came out | Mar 07 07:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 07:37 |
| MinceR | OSR2, aka 'nuke your system if you boot DOS' | Mar 07 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | OSR 2.1 added FAT32 and USB support, Microsoft never sold it retail | Mar 07 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing 98 had extra was IE 4 | Mar 07 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | they used Windows 95's 2 GB partition limit to force upgrades | Mar 07 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | the retail Windows 95 that is | Mar 07 07:38 |
| MinceR | did you miss IE3? :> | Mar 07 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | 95 OSR 2.1 actually supported volumes up to 64 GB | Mar 07 07:39 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: HAHAHHAHAHA!!! | Mar 07 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | not a limit of FAT32, a limitation of the format utility | Mar 07 07:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:39 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 07:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows98 FDISK | Mar 07 07:39 |
| GoForbes28 | vs Windows95 fdisk | Mar 07 07:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Great! Just lost the colour red from my graphics card pffft! Today just gets better. :( | Mar 07 07:40 | |
| DaemonFC | yes, I ended up taking the format and fdisk utilities from a Windows 98 disk to get Windows 95 onto an 80 GB hard disk in one partition | Mar 07 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:40 |
| GoForbes28 | Ain't proprietary software "magical"? | Mar 07 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | they sent me a free copy of Windows Me, and I took the Defrag.exe from it | Mar 07 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | 4 years of Drive Contents Changed....restarting was enough :) | Mar 07 07:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Seems the @markshuttlecock @jonabacon @miguelmicasa gang is quite quiet nowadays ;-) | Mar 07 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Installing Fedora 14 Xfce on the netbook to get streaming working for !LO live later..... | Mar 07 07:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | I assumed that you threw that copy out the windows shortly thereafter? | Mar 07 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | defrag was the only thing in Windows Me that had improved | Mar 07 07:42 |
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| DaemonFC | I took the upgrade and applied it to Windows 95, all 1 MB of it | Mar 07 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:42 |
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| GoForbes28 | wow, how many millions in development costs, for 1mb of improvements | Mar 07 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, When I do use Windows it tends to be a version almost nobody else has | Mar 07 07:43 |
| GoForbes28 | 96? | Mar 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | just because they do tailor it for corner cases with a lot of money and it falls into my hands via MSDN or Technet :) | Mar 07 07:44 |
| GoForbes28 | betas? | Mar 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | I have every version of Windows since 1.0 | Mar 07 07:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Wow | Mar 07 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | some on official media, some from ISO's from Microsoft | Mar 07 07:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Retaining value: 6 dollars | Mar 07 07:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Let's call that #JITI - Just In Time Install ;-) | Mar 07 07:45 | |
| DaemonFC | My "favorite", if one can measure these things, was Windows XP x64 Edition | Mar 07 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | most people hated it but I had drivers for all my stuff | Mar 07 07:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Why was that your favourite? | Mar 07 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | it was fairly fast | Mar 07 07:45 |
| MinceR | because it has the lowest chance of supporting any piece of hw | Mar 07 07:46 |
| MinceR | but he got lucky ;) | Mar 07 07:46 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | Mar 07 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | I swiped some Windows Vista drivers to use on it | Mar 07 07:46 |
| GoForbes28 | now 64bit Windows is bloated and slow, in other words now 100% consistent | Mar 07 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | on my Core 2 Duo box | Mar 07 07:46 |
| MinceR | at some point it wasn't? | Mar 07 07:46 |
| GoForbes28 | good point | Mar 07 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's "professional" edition is almost never as saddled with crap and slow as the consumer versions | Mar 07 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | of course it costs 2-10 times as much :D | Mar 07 07:47 |
| GoForbes28 | well they solved that problem with Windows 7 | Mar 07 07:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Now all versions are equally bloated | Mar 07 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | XP x64 reports itself as Windows NT 5.2 | Mar 07 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | XP was 5.1 | Mar 07 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | the core OS binaries match up to Windows 2003 Server | Mar 07 07:48 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 07:48 |
| GoForbes28 | it's windows 2003 with a different name | Mar 07 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | oddly enough this Microsoft keyboard and mouse work just dandy | Mar 07 07:49 |
| GoForbes28 | curious, do all Vista drivers work with XP 64-bit? | Mar 07 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel log even mentions them by name and model numbers | Mar 07 07:50 |
| GoForbes28 | and why is that odd? | Mar 07 07:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @markshuttlecock Here at Canonicalifornia we have a release party. Every night. | Mar 07 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @markshuttlecock: @jwildeboer @jargon I've been scrollitizing the scrollbar. | Mar 07 07:50 | |
| DaemonFC | meh | Mar 07 07:50 |
| MinceR | the m$ mouse around here likes to randomly scroll | Mar 07 07:50 |
| MinceR | so i switched back to the dHell one | Mar 07 07:50 |
| MinceR | which tracks inaccurately | Mar 07 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, Any driver that is WDM compliant should, with exceptions to network drivers if they use NDIS 6, and video drivers that use WDDM | Mar 07 07:50 |
| MinceR | but it's adequate for work :> | Mar 07 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of "Vista" network drivers were actually NDIS 5.1 and work fine in XP | Mar 07 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | especially the early ones | Mar 07 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia and ATI still support Windows XP x64's WDM display driver model | Mar 07 07:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Every day my desire to pelt the offices of LinkedIn with cans of spam gets harder to resist. #imnotaviolentpersonbut | Mar 07 07:51 | |
| DaemonFC | so video is not an issue | Mar 07 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | you're most likely looking at problems with webcams, (though you can tell it it is a scanner sometimes) | Mar 07 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | MTP-based MP3 players (put it in MSC mode and tell Windows it's an external hard drive) | Mar 07 07:52 |
| DaemonFC | and printers :) | Mar 07 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh, printers, evil printers | Mar 07 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | it works or it doesn't | Mar 07 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There is no spoon, it is a chicken, moooo | Mar 07 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 07:53 |
| GoForbes28 | heh | Mar 07 07:54 |
| GoForbes28 | enough Windows for now | Mar 07 07:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | I'm torn between Debian and Fedora | Mar 07 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | jono works hard every day to preach the merits of Windows | Mar 07 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | Windows isn't brown, purple, or orange | Mar 07 07:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 07 07:55 |
| jono | hey DaemonFC | Mar 07 07:55 |
| jono | hows things? | Mar 07 07:55 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: have you tried both already? | Mar 07 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | it is not an animal nor an adjective | Mar 07 07:55 |
| GoForbes28 | jono is a Windows nut? | Mar 07 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ uname -a | Mar 07 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | Linux ryan-desktop 2.6.32-71.18.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 24 10:58:03 CST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | Mar 07 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:56 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: duh | Mar 07 07:56 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: he advertises vista7 in his free time. | Mar 07 07:56 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I'm tired, give me a break | Mar 07 07:56 |
| MinceR | Windows™ 7 - Life Without Clue. | Mar 07 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a PC, and it burns when I pee. | Mar 07 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 07:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 07 07:57 |
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| GoForbes28 | Maybe he could advertise how the HKCR registry permissions get wiped for no reason | Mar 07 07:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: winblows infections are a bitch. | Mar 07 07:57 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: he won't get free licenses for that | Mar 07 07:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Thus, laying a nice foundation for future registry damage | Mar 07 07:58 |
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| GoForbes28 | My brother is switching to Ubuntu | Mar 07 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, I miss IRIX | Mar 07 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | jono, you guys should be more like IRIX | Mar 07 07:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Irix, really? | Mar 07 07:58 |
| MinceR | dead? | Mar 07 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, sadly | Mar 07 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, You should see Quake III Arena on IRIX | Mar 07 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 07:59 |
| GoForbes28 | I knew you could run BZFlag on Irix, which is the first I heard of it | Mar 07 07:59 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I have tried Debian, but not Fedora | Mar 07 08:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | BZFlag runs on anything with OpenGL | Mar 07 08:00 |
| *DaemonFC smacks Diablo-D3 with Hover.exe | Mar 07 08:00 | |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: then i reckon trying fedora (maybe in a VM) would help you decide :) | Mar 07 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:00 |
| GoForbes28 | Hence why it is so awesome | Mar 07 08:00 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm going for stablity and reliability mind you | Mar 07 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | Hover.exe works in Wine | Mar 07 08:01 |
| MinceR | i think debian targets those more than fedora | Mar 07 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | I dug out my Windows 95 disc one day to see if it would | Mar 07 08:01 |
| GoForbes28 | except Debian's older kernel doesn't seem to support the Intel GMA HD | Mar 07 08:01 |
| GoForbes28 | it's vague what kernels support this graphics architecture | Mar 07 08:02 |
| MinceR | you could upgrade the kernel | Mar 07 08:02 |
| GoForbes28 | true | Mar 07 08:02 |
| MinceR | even build your own | Mar 07 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | or build your own | Mar 07 08:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 07 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's kernel always sucks anyway | Mar 07 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:02 |
| GoForbes28 | but it is blob-free | Mar 07 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Mar 07 08:02 |
| GoForbes28 | I like the concept | Mar 07 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | so do I as long as it's not a blob I need | Mar 07 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | they can keep the rest | Mar 07 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Lodahl @Mark_Antony 20% of Danish public authorities use #opensource office suite http://tinyurl.com/6h6dxhp #opensource other big nos. | Mar 07 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ayatana Overlay Scrollbars http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/ayatana-overlay-scrollbars/ | Mar 07 08:03 | |
| GoForbes28 | Plus, my laptop seems to not require blobs AFAIK | Mar 07 08:03 |
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| GoForbes28 | atheros wireless card | Mar 07 08:03 |
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| GoForbes28 | JMicron ethernet? | Mar 07 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | my NIC operates as 100 Mbit without the blob but is 1 Gbit with blob | Mar 07 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | my ralink wifi doesn't work without blob | Mar 07 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | and without blob, my radeonhd cards are framebuffer devices | Mar 07 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:04 |
| GoForbes28 | That's why I got the Intel GMA HD | Mar 07 08:05 |
| GoForbes28 | besides, it works surprisingly well | Mar 07 08:05 |
| GoForbes28 | a 2008 FPS runs great | Mar 07 08:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Interesting: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5669/196/ | Mar 07 08:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Mar 07 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Redoing the !LO #Minecraft server map generation. *sigh* | Mar 07 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu 11.10 Is Called The "Oneiric Ocelot": While Fedora 16 might be codenamed Bacon, Mark Shuttleworth has ann... http://bit.ly/eaEKp0 | Mar 07 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think @th3k4ty is really digging #Minecraft. :D | Mar 07 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @ElizabethMay: Change the channel on attack ads http://green.ca/lGp Please RT! #GPC #cdnpoli | Mar 07 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Liberal #UBB petition raises specter of "congestion tolls". I still see no evidence of a need for this. How do you feel? | Mar 07 08:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] If election law was treated like copyright law http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/5290 | Mar 07 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] LibreOffice Conference Announced http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/libreoffice-conference-announced/ | Mar 07 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Americas) Peter Kent was lobbied by Canadian Labour Congress on Jan. 13 http://bit.ly/gpo0sF | Mar 07 08:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? http://lwn.net/Articles/431705/rss | Mar 07 08:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.89 KB | Mar 07 08:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Mumbai suburban railway. What's there (not) to like ? ;) | Mar 07 08:16 | |
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| GoForbes28 | gotta a test to do | Mar 07 08:18 |
| GoForbes28 | bbl | Mar 07 08:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidc "Oneiric ocelot" is trending on Twitter =) !u | Mar 07 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identica | Mar 07 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] boingboing: "Canadian MP who shills for the record industry is an enthusiastic pirate" http://ur1.ca/3ez7m !copyright #cdnpoli | Mar 07 08:23 | |
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| *gnufreex is back | Mar 07 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @mdz #Nokia sells #Qt business to Digia - http://bit.ly/enbO0o | Mar 07 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers "How Facebook is Killing Your Authenticity" - http://ur1.ca/3ez0n #usegnusocialinstead | Mar 07 08:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | I might just stay on EL | Mar 07 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's very solid | Mar 07 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | (I haven't managed to crash it yet) :) | Mar 07 08:26 |
| gnufreex | I tried RHEL beta 6 | Mar 07 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers "Nintendo reserves the right to brick your 3DS" - http://ur1.ca/3eyyr #defectivebydesign | Mar 07 08:26 | |
| gnufreex | *RHel 6 beta | Mar 07 08:26 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm using Scientific Linux 6 | Mar 07 08:26 |
| gnufreex | It is good | Mar 07 08:26 |
| gnufreex | No, I didn't do it on desktop | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to say yes | Mar 07 08:27 |
| gnufreex | On server at work | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | it makes a nice desktop so far | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | I have had to build a few things or swipe from Fedora :) | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | but overall it's good | Mar 07 08:27 |
| gnufreex | Complete move to RHEL 6 will be in few months | Mar 07 08:27 |
| Yownanymous | Well I'd love to stay and see more of your excellent prepared and biased propaganda, but my bullshit alarm is winding up. So good day gentlemen. | Mar 07 08:28 |
| gnufreex | at work | Mar 07 08:28 |
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| gnufreex | who is that dick? | Mar 07 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's a rhelatively good distro :) | Mar 07 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | he's from Linsux | Mar 07 08:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.1.30 is released: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02130-released | Mar 07 08:30 | |
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| gnufreex | Strange, I usually always recognise all their nicks | Mar 07 08:30 |
| gnufreex | but I don't know this one | Mar 07 08:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia's Not-so-cute #Qt Move - http://bit.ly/iccnyQ time to dig out that #fork from the back of the drawer? #opensource | Mar 07 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Liberal MP Dan McTeague: Repeat Copyright Infringer? - http://bit.ly/f5TR4M why are fair use enemies often the copyright hypocrites? | Mar 07 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Upstart 1.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/upstart-1-0-released/ | Mar 07 08:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | looks like I'll build Transmission 2.13 | Mar 07 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's the newest I can go with the libevent library I have :) | Mar 07 08:37 |
| MinceR | Glyn Moody has a good point there | Mar 07 08:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #Nokia's Not-so-cute #Qt Move - http://bit.ly/iccnyQ time to dig out that #fork from the back of the drawer? #opensource | Mar 07 08:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @support !sr fixiebike ID 393695 4 avg blatant group spam, please kill immediately! | Mar 07 08:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Liberal MP Dan McTeague: Repeat Copyright Infringer? - http://bit.ly/f5TR4M why are fair use enemies often the copyright h ... | Mar 07 08:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Implements API to Combat Fragmentation http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/google-api-to-combat-fragmentation/ | Mar 07 08:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Lybia: Ghaddafi has not used a nuke, does not own a nuke, and has never been near a nuke, but I link to this anyhow http://ur1.ca/3ezg2 | Mar 07 08:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Breaktime over... I must get !mynovel done today so back to the word mines... enjoy your #cupoftea @kevie, & watch those spirits @maloki :) | Mar 07 08:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Build Mac client: no | Mar 07 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 07 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | not even for MinceR | Mar 07 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | it built, it works | Mar 07 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | cool B-) | Mar 07 08:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mathewi @leetrout: Just as darkness is the absence of light Charlie Sheen is the absence of Chuck Norris >>oooh, deep... | Mar 07 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google.com occasionally redirecting (http 302) to www.google.com.hk? | Mar 07 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 8gb #Sanza Clip+ for £40 new from #Amazon? http://tighturl.com/2zn9 that must be a good deal | Mar 07 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] EFF Sends Letter to Sony in Defense of Hackers http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/eff-letter-in-defense-of-hackers/ | Mar 07 08:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the 2gb Sanza Clip+ is like £35 | Mar 07 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PORRA!!! Recuperar a treta da senha para o IRS é um filme!!! Sei lá qual foi a resposta à pergunta?!! | Mar 07 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Parece que tem de se enviar mail a cancelar a actual e registar novamente após eles enviarem mail.... senhas@dgci.min-financas.pt | Mar 07 08:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 2.6.38 (Part 5) - #Architecture, #infrastructure and #virtualisation http://h-online.com/-1202216 #scheduler #thp #acpi #security | Mar 07 08:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] more "cyberdefence" nonsense, this time in #France - http://bit.ly/fCUkPP dumping #Windows would be more efficacious & cheaper (v @manhack) | Mar 07 08:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] that'd be a funny idea for a site, the RSPTB one, with a whole charter of rights to Tea biccies, welcoming non-Tea biccy members etc | Mar 07 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Scientific Linux 6.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/scientific-linux-6-0-released/ | Mar 07 09:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working hard on notes for tonight's !LO. | Mar 07 09:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released .::. Size~: 27.38 KB | Mar 07 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Triaging !koffice bugs, seems like it hasn't been done in 5 or more years... !kde | Mar 07 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] RT @DirDigEng @bethnoveck Finland commits in principle to make public data available #opendata #gov20 http://bit.ly/egUPEE | Mar 07 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French Court Tosses Ridiculous Criminal Complaint By Israeli Against An American Over Book Review By A German - http://bit.ly/hDePfu phew | Mar 07 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @phylogenomics Come on #Nature - how hard is it to fix promised free access for #genome papers? #FreeThePapers #fb http://ff.im/-zma92 | Mar 07 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] DataStore – an abstraction layer for storing data and processing requests http://bit.ly/eSBjwB | Mar 07 09:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @AndyPPUK @the_MPA asks 'who would invest in an industry that competes with free?' in #Hargreaves submission. Ever heard of bottled H2O? | Mar 07 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The DoJ is Looking into Anti-WebM Moves by MPEG LA http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/doj-anti-webm-by-mpeg-la/ | Mar 07 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I have a feeling that today's !lo will be on time and there will be absolutely no delays whatsoever | Mar 07 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] is anything - like new uploads - happening in the Sid repo right now, !Debian? getting annoying "hash mismatch" errors | Mar 07 09:23 | |
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| gnufreex | Every shuttlewroth's explanation for name of new release leaves me wtf. | Mar 07 09:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] Interesting short article: Why !Linux is the most important software project in history: http://is.gd/udUDzC | Mar 07 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I doubt it. I already am quite behind with everything. CC @methoddan | Mar 07 09:25 | |
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| gnufreex | Oneiric Ocelot is double wtf | Mar 07 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh yea, well tell that to the guy who has a dentist appointment at the same time as the show. Oh, you just did. #pain | Mar 07 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Wearing blown-out old sneakers because my current pair is wet. Sort of nostalgic for the good times these Adidas and I had. #sniff | Mar 07 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Condemned to Joy - http://bit.ly/h1B4DF "we are probably the first society in history to make people unhappy for not being happy" (v @gnat) | Mar 07 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "I think [CC] encourages people with ideas to flourish" - @badpandarecords' mon music + interview w/The Echelon Effect: http://bit.ly/dRVP4B | Mar 07 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [BadPanda072] The Echelon Effect – We Will Spin Forever « Bad Panda Records .::. Size~: 44.01 KB | Mar 07 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The DPL on the Influence of Debian http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/influence-of-debian/ | Mar 07 09:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @lxnews The DPL on the Influence of Debian http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/influence-of-debian/ | Mar 07 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun The !LinuxOutlaws live recording will probably start a bit later today, we still have stuff to prepare. We'll be in the IRC f ... | Mar 07 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel Sandy Bridge VA-API Performance: There have been a number of Intel Sandy Bridge articles on Phoronix since... http://bit.ly/hjpZ0R | Mar 07 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 4.6 Is Only Four Bugs Away From An RC: While it's taken a while to clear out the most prominent bugs/regress... http://bit.ly/gw6b5T | Mar 07 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @iurie: Eben Moglen explains the #FreedomBox on CBS Evening News - http://videobin.org/v/4/44z.ogg | Mar 07 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @zittrain @scottros US Supreme Court will hear Golan case, challenging return public domain materials to (c) http://bit.ly/gIH6Ly >>fab | Mar 07 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @jwildeboer: ♺ @sparks: "I need to upgrade my laptop from #Ubuntu to #Fedora today." #overheardinmyoffice < *EvilGrin* | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Keeping !crunchbang for the time being; it may change my mind about !debian | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 447 tser : Hurai is thinking perhaps I'm a changeling. http://bit.ly/ey663O #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | Mar 07 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] #Manning "...the underwear was taken away from him as a precaution to ensure that he did not injure himself" !wl !hrw http://is.gd/4xZiap | Mar 07 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is Open Foresight? - http://bit.ly/hVdMgv "to analyze complex issues in an open and collaborative way" | Mar 07 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Legally binding e-documents: #Germany pushes secure email - http://bit.ly/hhauli "Ministry of the Interior is backing the scheme": you bet | Mar 07 09:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Climate, #Mind and Behavior Program - http://bit.ly/idPjAx interesting approach (v @dcarli) | Mar 07 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Patent Woes Threaten #Drug Firms - http://bit.ly/f47asJ expiration of intellectual monopolies are cause for celebration, not mourning... | Mar 07 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: RT @AndyPPUK @the_MPA asks 'who would invest in an industry that competes with free?' .... Ever heard of bottled H2O? | Mar 07 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: more "cyberdefence" nonsense, this time in #France - http://bit.ly/fCUkPP dumping #Windows would be more efficacious & cheaper | Mar 07 09:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jwildeboer: Seems german company Gamma/Elaman sold some nasty spy SW to #Egyp SS - PDF here http://ur1.ca/3exwu via http://ur1.ca/3exwv | Mar 07 09:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ruiseabra: ♺ @karsten: European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 09:58 | |
| gnufreex | exactly what i feared http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/03/nokias-not-so-cute-qt-move/index.htm | Mar 07 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: RT @Lodahl @Mark_Antony 20% of Danish public authorities use #opensource office suite http://tinyurl.com/6h6dxhp #opensource... | Mar 07 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: EU governments could save millions by using #opensource on desktop - http://bit.ly/e2y03b interesting stats in paper... | Mar 07 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vaporware #windows8 | Mar 07 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Moving beyond the #Microsoft #monoculture - http://bit.ly/hcL7Nq it's the end of an era - but problems will linger on | Mar 07 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Xonotic Nexuiz-Fork Celebrates Its First Anniversary: Xonotic, a fork of the Nexuiz game, is celebrating its... http://bit.ly/ghjZMr | Mar 07 10:10 | |
| Diablo-D3 | GOPHSERV — cross-platform, GPLv3, FreeBASIC. | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >gopher | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >gpl3 | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >basic | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtfamireading.jpg | Mar 07 10:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun The !LinuxOutlaws #Minecraft server is back up. We have also fixed map rendering but some glitches in the visuals still remain... | Mar 07 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Upgrade your graphics drivers for best results with Firefox 4 http://mzl.la/ejRUyR | Mar 07 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Crank up voltage. Watch plastics crack (Futurity.org): http://bit.ly/fzHuSP | Mar 07 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva I think it is harmful to call all those things open core since we need term open core to use it against real open core companies. | Mar 07 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva And it is no fun when they point back to your "linux is open core" article | Mar 07 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva Those three things (open core, blobs, and proprietary re-licensing) are all harmful but not to the same extent. | Mar 07 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva So they need to be called differently. | Mar 07 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @lxnews: The DoJ is Looking into Anti-WebM Moves by MPEG LA http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/doj-anti-webm-by-mpeg-la/ | Mar 07 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.6.2 has been released: http://ur1.ca/3f0g7 | Mar 07 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Has !GNOME rejected !Canonical help? http://ur1.ca/3f0it | Mar 07 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design blog: That’s it, we’re quitting http://ur1.ca/3f0kq | Mar 07 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Scientific !Linux 6.0 has been released: http://ur1.ca/3f0l6 | Mar 07 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !unity source package is in #Natty http://ur1.ca/3f0lu | Mar 07 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/431809/rss | Mar 07 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] brilliant, hackers managing to unban modded #PS3s while banning unmodded PS3s http://tighturl.com/2znc #hilarious #cat #mouse | Mar 07 10:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I got Clementine to build on SL 6 with some libs from Fedora | Mar 07 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:56 |
| gnufreex | why not just use fedora? | Mar 07 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | because I like a challenge :) | Mar 07 11:01 |
| gnufreex | Hmm. Scientist! | Mar 07 11:02 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | I almost have Pidgin ready to build | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | I've had to do some..... modifications | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | but I think it will accept my system here shortly | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | I got Transmission built :) | Mar 07 11:02 |
| gnufreex | If you tested it well, see if you can submit it to epel | Mar 07 11:03 |
| gnufreex | but you would need to test it aganst CentOS too. | Mar 07 11:03 |
| gnufreex | Since SL is not 100% carbon copy. | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | Sauerbraten works fine | Mar 07 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Frantically compiling the notes for the !LO live show in a bit.... | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ubuntudesigners That’s it, we’re quitting: http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/ | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I've also built Firefox 4 | Mar 07 11:03 |
| gnufreex | No proprietary drivers? | Mar 07 11:03 |
| gnufreex | I mean, you don't use it? | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | I have Catalyst 11.2 right now | Mar 07 11:04 |
| gnufreex | eh crap. I hoped it works without | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure I could backport Mesa and X.org if I really felt like it | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | 2d acceleration works fine | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | If I was going to go to that much trouble I would just use Fedora | Mar 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | AtRPMs gave me a new ALSA lib | Mar 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's kind of distrurbing | Mar 07 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I want !Minecraft on the !PS3. | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm only really concerned with having the latest versions of a few things | Mar 07 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | it really makes more sense to just maintain those myself than use an entire distribution of untested crap | Mar 07 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Most gratuitous use of the word 'Belgium' in a documentary http://ur1.ca/3f0ug | Mar 07 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] My last day at the FSF. Congratulations to John Sullivan the new ED: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/peterb | Mar 07 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Microsoft Death Watch - Forbes Weighs In - http://bit.ly/hDGJcw #microsoft #tablet | Mar 07 11:20 | |
| DaemonFC | gnufreex, also, compiling network-facing software yourself can have advantages, such as being able to enable security options like stack protection | Mar 07 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | though Red Hat is already good about that | Mar 07 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu isn't | Mar 07 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: brilliant, hackers unban modded #PS3s while banning unmodded PS3s http://tighturl.com/2znc #hilarious #cat #mouse | Mar 07 11:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RD @danto !Ryzom is now #FreeToPlay http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35224 #mmorpg !gnu #agpl | Thanks for the bday present, ryzom! | Mar 07 11:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @peterb: My last day at the FSF. Congratulations to John Sullivan the new ED: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/peterb | Mar 07 11:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is the Navy Trying to Start the Robot Apocalypse? (Wired): http://bit.ly/dYeApw | Mar 07 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If I thought that last week was busy, it was because I have not experienced the one ahead yet. Looks promising :-/ | Mar 07 11:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Linux Outlaws are live now with the pre-show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live !lo | Mar 07 11:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is akbarnasr with 116 dents! | Mar 07 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing another !LO wohoooooooooooooooo!!!! | Mar 07 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 11:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @zach Bugs me when people bitch about Facebook and Twitter but wont even make the slightest, tiny effort to use or support the open web. | Mar 07 12:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 12:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @johnsu01 congratulations! | Mar 07 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber Seeing ./__MACOSX/ in FOSS-containing archives makes me go =_= #petpeeve | Mar 07 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 12:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Ubuntu 11.11 - Obtuse Obscurity #sarcasmenabled | Mar 07 12:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @thistleweb: @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 12:21 | |
| GoForbes28 | "Ubuntu 11.11 - Obtuse Obscurity"? | Mar 07 12:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva it's not an additional restriction, it's an agreement where you waive some of your rights in exchange for the service. | Mar 07 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva That's ok by me, if my clients always changed stuff I make I'd need to charge a whole lot more. | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Is copyright enforcement effective or counterproductive? SSRC releases landmark empirical study of media piracy: https://eff.org/r.z7y | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] actually Obstinate Orangutan suits the Librarian better now I think about it #Discworld | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !softwarelibre !nolesvotes !wikileaks ¿Acceso a la cultura y la educación? http://ur1.ca/3f1i1 | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] some distro should adopt #Discworld as their naming scheme | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva what is really unfortunate is the *threat* language. It's not nice and irks a lot some people (like me, a lot, because I like RH). | Mar 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cthon98 rocks! http://bash.org/?244321 | Mar 07 12:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] whoo, turns out my appointment tomorrow is MUCH closer than I thought | Mar 07 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] forgot to announce !linuxlibre 2.6.32.31-libre2-lemote for !yeeloong !gnewsense, with a bunch of additional drivers | Mar 07 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The best Web security against hackers and spammers: advanced math! (LA TImes): http://lat.ms/g1JsY8 | Mar 07 12:56 | |
| gnufreex | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/uspto_overhaul/ | Mar 07 13:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @mv Farmers to Show Solidarity with Wis. Public Employees http://bit.ly/gFPOA7 !wisconsin !ilm #farmers | Mar 07 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh doing an Ass To Mouth show? is that a special episode? or a pilot for a new Sixbum Productions show? ;P | Mar 07 13:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @carlopiana: @peterb best wishes and thanks for your time and dedication to Free Software. | Mar 07 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Considering buying an e-reader based on e-ink. Suggestions,!Lazyweb? | Mar 07 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh god! The netbook winner is from Australia! The shipping will kill my bank account! Oo | Mar 07 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @alexanderhanff I hate doing things last minute but have to find a hotel in Brussels near BEUC's office for tomorrow night. PLS HELP | Mar 07 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb @carlopiana to @peterb: best wishes and thanks for your time and dedication to Free Software | Mar 07 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Kik Messenger adds group chat and photos for !Android & iOS users http://goo.gl/MHUg7 | Mar 07 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva the purpose of an NDA is the ND. The purpose of the agreement is two fold: reduce support cost and maximise proffit. | Mar 07 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] At a Wisconsin Town Hall, the Mood Turns Against Compromise - Natasha Vargas-Cooper - Politics - The Atlantic http://ow.ly/49CmB | Mar 07 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Thrilled about the new job, sad to lose @peterb. Thanks for all the kind words from everyone. http://ur1.ca/3f197 | Mar 07 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya seems to be an opportunity for every foreign politician to give a rare airing to their "values" #hypocricy | Mar 07 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya seems to be an opportunity for every foreign politician to give a rare airing to their "values" #hypocrisy | Mar 07 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: We're a proud sponsor of the very first #confkdein - http://kde.in/conf/ -- Are you attending? | Mar 07 13:33 | |
| GoForbes28 | I love the comments at http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110306/22010113374/hackers-claim-they-can-unban-banned-ps3s-while-banning-unmodded-ps3s.shtml#comments | Mar 07 13:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Kasvopus - Facebook client for Maemo, MeeGo and Symbian ^3: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7102 | Mar 07 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @danielmarti: I don't see why people are so concerned about Gnome 3.0. It's not that bad, and its appearance hasn't changed for years | Mar 07 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: qvdremote - use your N900 as a TCP/IP remote for VDR server: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7104 | Mar 07 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @alexanderhanff Hotel now booked thanks for the suggestions everyone. | Mar 07 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Community: Nominations open for #Maemo Community Council election http://is.gd/659Bu9 #maemo | Mar 07 13:38 | |
| GoForbes28 | Either they are corporatrolls, or very very ignorant people | Mar 07 13:39 |
| GoForbes28 | The ones arguing the Sony victim B.S | Mar 07 13:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why have I got a dogfight going on in the middle of my living room? | Mar 07 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Crowd-Sourcing System Requirements For Free Software: When purchasing commercial software for Windows and Mac OS... http://bit.ly/fVh9TZ | Mar 07 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @susanamas: Whistleblower site 'Québecleaks' to launch Wednesday RT http://t.co/12YI0xq via @cyberpresse | Mar 07 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: actually Obstinate Orangutan suits the Librarian better now I think about it #Discworld | Mar 07 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Memory_Project: Featured Veteran: MARGARET GUILDFORD Signing up to work overseas as a nurse http://fb.me/Rw95HPCZ | Mar 07 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Agriculture Min. Gerry Ritz was lobbied by University of Saskatchewan on Feb. 08 http://bit.ly/eOUWLA #????? | Mar 07 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: York Regional Police aka York Pork get Rolling Fortress: http://bit.ly/gcO8Z1 #areyoufuckingkiddingme? #WTF? #acab | Mar 07 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @mgeist: Bloc's terms for C-32 support: extend levy, no fair dealing for education, no change on broadcast ephemeral http://is.gd/PdnzFw | Mar 07 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: "I almost can't believe I'm witnessing this. We're inside the fortress of terror in Egypt" http://bit.ly/hVQiiQ #Egypt #Stasi | Mar 07 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva because what you loose in the case of support contracts is support contract. "We don't hold your hand anymore". | Mar 07 14:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva It's nasty, but doesn't remove freedom. And I'm sure it's more oriented towards being able to be used on abusers rather than always | Mar 07 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Costa-Rica WikiLeaks, What a scandal! http://alturl.com/xohb9 !wl | Mar 07 14:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Chatzilla is working again (had to apply a patch though) | Mar 07 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Gods of Tech | Culture | Vanity Fair http://ow.ly/49Eib « No one will agree entirely with this list | Mar 07 14:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva An NDA is a contract, but one whose purpose is to hide information. | Mar 07 14:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I just donated 10 Euro to the !lo to help cover shipping costs of sending a netbook to someone not named jezra ;) | Mar 07 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Nigerian Supreme Court judges took bribes to validate Yar'Adua/Jonathan election http://is.gd/rSo1PI !wl | Mar 07 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cue the carriers whining to the regulators to get this banned http://tighturl.com/2znv competition eh? that's not part of the plan | Mar 07 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ‘There will be consequences’ for Manning’s mistreatment, Kucinich warns Sec. Gates http://is.gd/Wy625Z !wl | Mar 07 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, !unity 3.6.2 is reeally fast... | Mar 07 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I don't recommend people discuss their friends relationship troubles on the bus | Mar 07 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I can't wait the day I can upgrade all of my machines to #natty... | Mar 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Writing this from a #triangletransit bus | Mar 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Kenya rejected America’s ICC plot | Nation http://is.gd/cE3R9S !wl | Mar 07 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva it's cancelled if you do something wrong (like paying for support on X servers and using that support on much more than that). | Mar 07 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] now using stock !debian !emacs on !crunchbang; !gnus not using authinfo file | Mar 07 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva I agree. | Mar 07 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Leaked !Android app has cloud sync for rooted phones. Are we closer to Google Music launch? http://goo.gl/xik7b | Mar 07 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Estarei na Manifestação Geração à Rasca este Sábado, dia 12 de Março. E tu? Os protestos são válidos, e não apenas de uma única geração. | Mar 07 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Linux is losing the race to the #tablet - http://tek.io/gXdn4R yeah, just like android lost the race to the smartphone... | Mar 07 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 'Kirchners, allies react with fury and paranoia' http://is.gd/8gHKiD !wl | Mar 07 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HawkEye firm sold to #Sony http://tighturl.com/2znx | Mar 07 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @rms Urgent: Support defunding of War in Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/3f2fb | Mar 07 14:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Zombels... Zombels. Zombelling free... Zombels, underground... | Mar 07 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Vote rigging in Nigera http://is.gd/NVLOH3 !wl | Mar 07 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Liliputing: How to run Ubuntu Linux on the Motorola XOOM tablet http://ping.fm/ddC4v | Mar 07 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Every time I lose a follower, deep in my heart, I believe they have been eaten by a Grue. | Mar 07 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Linux is losing the race to the #tablet - http://tek.io/gXdn4R yeah, just like android lost the race to the smartphone... (via @glynmoody) | Mar 07 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks: Saudi princes engage in sex, drug parties http://alturl.com/cb7am !wl | Mar 07 14:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Running yum updated on the freshly installed F14 Xfce netbook. Yup. 413 updates. | Mar 07 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “America is not broke”- Michael Moore - http://bit.ly/ijkQxF "400 Americans have the same wealth as half of all Americans combined." | Mar 07 14:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arctic ice loss moves phytoplankton peak up to 50 days early, could “lead to crashes of the food web” - http://bit.ly/iiNazH good idea, no? | Mar 07 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Off to bed.... Will probably be a busy day tomorrow.... | Mar 07 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Arctic ice loss moves phytoplankton peak up to 50 days early, could “lead to crashes of the food web” - http://bit.ly/iiNazH | Mar 07 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: :) RT @janecpb Charlie Sheen fired from 2.5 Men. Gadhafi, you're next! | Mar 07 15:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: “America is not broke” Michael Moore http://bit.ly/ijkQxF 400 Americans have the same wealth as half of all Americans combined | Mar 07 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 15 Must-Have Linux Desktop Apps (Datamation) http://lwn.net/Articles/431888/rss | Mar 07 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] wow. simply wow. 400 people who even received money from the 2008 bailouts have as much wealth as 155 million americans combined. WOW. | Mar 07 15:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PWN2OWN Goes Deep to Exploit Browsers http://twurl.nl/1l7esi via @WebUpd8 « Still struggling with Chrome | Mar 07 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Inhumanity at Quantico http://alturl.com/5p6xj !wl | Mar 07 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-02-28 - 2011-03-06 http://ow.ly/1bEUJv | Mar 07 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New cables from Moscow, Stockholm, Nairobi, Kyiv, Bogata, Tallinn http://alturl.com/69zsb !wl | Mar 07 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My current !book is A short history of Ireland (re-reading actually) | Mar 07 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RD Workers Under Attack Will Tell Their Stories to Congressional Hearing http://bit.ly/eq9NBd via@mv | Mar 07 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.33 and 2.6.37.3 http://lwn.net/Articles/431893/rss | Mar 07 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Regulating against Public Interest: !CRTC approves BCE takeover of CTV http://ur1.ca/3f36k < why CRTC needs to be dissolved #cdnpoli !Canada | Mar 07 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Enterprise distributions and free software http://lwn.net/Articles/431854/rss | Mar 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Mexican #police chief fired after reportedly fleeing to US http://ur1.ca/3f370 #Addiction=medical problem; #Legalize=cartels go broke | Mar 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I need a bigger tortilla! | Mar 07 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm #Mexican #police chief fired after reportedly fleeing to US http://ur1.ca/3f370 #Addiction=medical problem; #Legalize=cartels g ... | Mar 07 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gamambel RT @telecomix: journalists may register 4 free. We teach you skills to prevent censorship and surveillance: http://www.rsf- ... | Mar 07 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Anybody know where I can find grande tortillas in #durham or Chapel Hill, #north_carolina ? | Mar 07 15:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ RT @telecomix: journalists may register 4 free. We teach you skills to prevent censorship and surveillance http://ur1.ca/3f3p8 <english | Mar 07 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ah to be in Geneva 12 MARS 2011 4 the WORLD DAY AGAINST CYBER-CENSORSHIP ... we need this maybe even more in the so-called 'free world' !wl | Mar 07 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #NC bill H.129 to stifle #google fiber in #triangle: TWC trying to crush free market. let your rep know it's not OK: http://bit.ly/eoQerF | Mar 07 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Pics of #Immortal concert in Chicago posted on #gnewbook. http://ur1.ca/3f498 !CC BY SA #blackmetal #heavymetal | Mar 07 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rlyehbob: Ah, poor Gaddafi. He denied Cthulhu, and now he's paying the piper, the piper at the gates of Sarnath #evilchuckle | Mar 07 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Natural Resources Min. Christian Paradis was lobbied by Hydro-Quebec on Sep. 14 http://bit.ly/dFeT2o | Mar 07 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @atopiary: That's right, media, AnonNews is run by the US government. We're all CIA, Santa is real, and we took the tooth fairy hostage. | Mar 07 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : The second sack of Arko, and, an Arkan writes. http://bit.ly/ey663O #Chevenga #weblit #reading #fantasy | Mar 07 16:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senator Durbin's opinion piece on the ups, downs, and human rights obligations of U.S. tech companies overseas: https://eff.org/r.z7z | Mar 07 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egypt faces new turmoil: Looted state security files | McClatchy http://is.gd/r0lMlM !wl | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] *In #kungfu flick voice* Your site's annoying ads are no match for my #Adblock Plus style! *evil lol* adblockplus.org #Firefox | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @quaid #Android as a talking-guide for visually impaired - Eyes-Free Android: Walking About With A Talking Android http://bit.ly/fB82yT | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm *In #kungfu flick voice* Your site's annoying ads are no match for my #Adblock Plus style! *evil lol* adblockplus.org #Firefox | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @atopiary: That's right, media, AnonNews is run by the US government. We're all CIA, Santa is real, and we took the ... | Mar 07 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter go get 'em! | Mar 07 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] < back to final proofing !mynovel | Mar 07 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Supreme Court to hear Golan, an important case testing Congressional limits on removing works from the public domain: https://eff.org/r.1z2 | Mar 07 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Senator Durbin's opinion piece on the ups, downs, and human rights obligations of U.S. tech companies overseas: https://eff.org/ ... | Mar 07 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Supreme Court to hear Golan, an important case testing Congressional limits on removing works from the public domain: https://ef ... | Mar 07 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 100 days of Cablegate: http://alturl.com/5a7t3 !wl | Mar 07 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Sam Varghese has a level headed and accurate report on things, as always. http://ur1.ca/3f56g | Mar 07 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] A Mind Forever Voyaging | Mar 07 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why I wouldn't live in the United States - and I'm a man: http://bit.ly/gt4FNx | Mar 07 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 445 Minis believes he is a sinner all over again. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #scifi #reading | Mar 07 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] In an ethereal voice Reeta proclaimed, “The Goddess provides what the Goddess wills." #Amwriting | Mar 07 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @GuidoPuddi: US probes #Anonymous plans for attack on marines http://twurl.nl/5pw7ki | Mar 07 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Or maybe that should have been #Anonymous probes #US plans for attack on marines http://twurl.nl/5pw7ki | Mar 07 18:21 | |
| oiaohm | http://drdobbs.com/windows/229300501 hmm interesting | Mar 07 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just saw a Mini E...just saw a Mini E... http://is.gd/5Dkr09 http://is.gd/RcleFn | Mar 07 18:30 | |
| Ender2070 | http://www.infowars.com/michael-moores-communist-rhetoric-distracts-from-crimes-of-the-banksters/ | Mar 07 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet @speeddefrost Canonical is about as relevant as Xandros/Linspire were - had users but few contributions, no long term ... | Mar 07 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fukawi2: Keep it up longer..... Use #linux #innuendo | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when #Windows has an update that it NEEDS to reboot now, why was that update held back for Patch Tuesday? | Mar 07 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if that #Windows patch wasn't so vital that it could be held back, why the urgency for an immediate reboot? | Mar 07 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Windows is a strange world, where you click START to STOP your machine, among many other quirks | Mar 07 19:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @lohang: Women Writers on Adelaide ebooks: In celebration of International Women's Day, 2011 http://ur1.ca/3f5zm #ebooks | Mar 07 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @beefymiracle BEHOLD!!!! #fedora | Mar 07 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Interesting visualization of attack on a VOIP server - http://is.gd/aOyPnr | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OSI Board thanks outgoing FSF Executive Director Peter Brown for his work: http://wmk.me/eDxW65 | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tell Congress to Rein in #PATRIOTAct and Restore JUSTICE! https://eff.org/r.4z3 | Mar 07 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] It's international womens day! Thanks ladies for all your love | Mar 07 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @beefymiracle BEHOLD!!!! !fedora < *sighs* be serious... and besides miracles already happened http://is.gd/rOoYEY | Mar 07 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jospoortvliet http://bit.ly/eIAOLQ this post scares me - something is going wrong and I feel Mark is genuinely worried here... !gnome | Mar 07 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] #crisisaverted | Mar 07 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Judge Gross Approves Sale of SCO's Assets to UnXis; Gives Novell 14 Days to Appeal - http://bit.ly/gI5RL7 #SCO | Mar 07 20:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter my kid dragged me away from the computer & forced me to watch "Second Hand Lions"... so I'm running behind, but rejuvenated | Mar 07 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the movie was fabulous btw :D favorite !q from deleted scene they shouldn't have, "Every man needs a hobby"~ M. Caine ... now back to work | Mar 07 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @evgenymorozov: So Zuckerberg's puppy can have its own Facebook page but Chinese dissidents using pseudonyms are out ... | Mar 07 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] I too was looking for rebels. But I was looking for them among the village headmen up in the hills. #amwriting | Mar 07 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Or rather #waswriting - #amgoingtobedbeforeturnintoapumpkin and if that makes sense to U, I have a 2 for 1 deal on Climate Change scientists | Mar 07 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: CBC 'Question of the Day' on banning attack ads - 80% support: http://bit.ly/hOV8jD #cdnpoli #GPC /@elizabethmay | Mar 07 21:16 | |
| Ender2070 | so much for madhatter being right wing | Mar 07 21:25 |
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| Ender2070 | what a liar | Mar 07 21:25 |
| Ender2070 | welcome to the no-fact zone | Mar 07 21:31 |
| Ender2070 | http://madhatter.ca/2011/02/27/the-great-climate-change-conspiracy/ | Mar 07 21:31 |
| Ender2070 | http://green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.html | Mar 07 21:33 |
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| Ender2070 | "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill." - The Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution | Mar 07 21:37 |
| Ender2070 | Al Gore – former VP of the USA, leading climate change campaigner, Nobel Peace Prize winner, Academy Award winner, Emmy winner. Gore lead the US delegations to the Rio Earth Summit and Kyoto Climate Change conference. He chaired a meeting of the full Club of Rome held in Washington DC in 1997. | Mar 07 21:37 |
| Ender2070 | Maurice Strong – former Head of the UN Environment Programme, Chief Policy Advisor to Kofi Annan, Secretary General of the Rio Earth Summit, co-author (with Gorbachev) of the Earth Charter, co-author of the Kyoto Protocol, founder of the Earth Council, devout Baha’i. | Mar 07 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | Mikhail Gorbachev – CoR executive member, former President of the Soviet Union, founder of Green Cross International and the Gorbachev Foundation, Nobel Peace Prize winner, co-founder (with Hidalgo) of the Club of Madrid, co-author (with Strong) of the Earth Charter. | Mar 07 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | David Rockefeller – CoR executive member, former Chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank, founder of the Trilateral Commission, executive member of the World Economic Forum, donated land on which the United Nations stands. | Mar 07 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | Bill Gates – founder of Microsoft, philanthropist | Mar 07 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | A few members or people who helped the Club of Rome | Mar 07 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | :P | Mar 07 21:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Gone are the days when all-nighters were possible based on willpower alone. Will finish proofing tomorrow when I can see straight. !edit | Mar 07 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identica #amsleeping zzzzz | Mar 07 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I think it is time for us to once again focus on breaking up concentrated corporate power, including ending corporate personhood. | Mar 07 22:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Hard time dealing with the stifling boredom at work. I can feel my brain going flabby. | Mar 07 22:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.37.3-libre and 2.6.32.32-libre2 now available | Mar 07 22:38 | |
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| Happy Mardi Gras | Mar 07 22:45 | |
| It looks like the slaughter of QT has started. | Mar 07 22:45 | |
| PJ picked up the sale of QT licensing and other business to another company. | Mar 07 22:46 | |
| http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Nokia-sells-off-commercial-and-services-arm-of-Qt-1203210.html | Mar 07 22:46 | |
| -> Nokia has announced that it is selling the commercial licensing and professional services arm of its Qt group to Digia, a Finnish services and software company. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Nokia plans to retain all the core development, and copyright, of the Qt framework and continue development, but the business of selling Qt under its commercial licence and supporting those customers will be transferred to Digia - Nokia does | Mar 07 22:47 | |
| [PJ: Remember SCO telling the court that in SCO v. Novell that no one ever sells a business without the copyrights? Heh heh. It seems it does happen, eh?] | Mar 07 22:47 | |
| In a typical Microsoft Press assault, details are obscure but all the Microsoft friendly press are on it at once. | Mar 07 22:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @flameeyes I have a PRS-505, lovely for novels and business books, sucks for techbooks... I've seen the EeeReader, looks nicer for those. | Mar 07 22:48 | |
| I have deep suspicions of the deal, not the least of which is that this cuts Nokia off from commercial feedback and creates further complexity that will make QT more costly. | Mar 07 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] some people should just stick with drinking tea | Mar 07 22:50 | |
| The QT blog has lots of comments, many worried about things like how close Digia is to Microsoft. | Mar 07 22:51 | |
| http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/07/nokia-and-digia-working-together/ | Mar 07 22:51 | |
| a quick search finds plenty of tie up, including .NET praise ... | Mar 07 22:51 | |
| http://www.digia.fi/C2256FEF0043E9C1/0/405001024 | Mar 07 22:51 | |
| http://www.digia.com/C2256FEF0043E9C1/0/405000758 | Mar 07 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Best wishes to all women. :-) #8march | Mar 07 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s up with SUMO – Mar. 7 http://bit.ly/elz5aU | Mar 07 22:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 2.6.38-rc8 http://bit.ly/f87FBH "I would have been ok with releasing this as the final 38, but[...]So please keep testing," | Mar 07 23:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: Linux #stable 2.6.37.3 http://bit.ly/e9EeSM and Linux #longterm 2.6.32.33 http://bit.ly/eRYNk5 "[...] must upgrade. [...]" | Mar 07 23:06 | |
| Slashdot does maximum FUD and confusion damage. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/07/1337211/Nokia-Sells-Qt | Mar 07 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] considers to move to Debian again... | Mar 07 23:26 | |
| KDE is not worried http://dot.kde.org/2011/03/03/qt-and-future-kde | Mar 07 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kaddi: Hab Blumen und merci vom Chef zum weltfrauentag bekommen. :) | Mar 07 23:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Cool! Gameduino! http://excamera.com/sphinx/gameduino/ #fb | Mar 07 23:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @gbraad why? | Mar 07 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @newbintraining: 1 hour of sleep is less than optimal | Mar 07 23:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #craigslist is truly awesome ♺ @NixiePixel: So this is how Marty McFly did it... http://bit.ly/hIeXrD | Mar 06 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #SCOTUS Rules Phelps and #WBC Can Protest Funerals http://ur1.ca/3emvy #atheist #humanist !lbgt #religion | Mar 06 19:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Peppermint Ice respin 20110302 out now! Check out this excellent distro! http://tinyurl.com/5ualgld !linux !ubuntu !foss !peppermint | Mar 06 19:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dead Nation has an update tomorrow, apparently voice chat and other new features added http://tinyurl.com/5r64rhu !ps3 !psn | Mar 06 19:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj !wl | Mar 06 19:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man, that Star Trek episode of #Yogscast is hilarious! Amazing stuff... | Mar 06 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. I need sleep.... I fear what I'll dream about tonight with all that scriptwriting and #Yogscast though. Oo | Mar 06 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New WikiLeaks book: WIKILEAKS AND THE AGE OF TRANSPARENCY by Micah Sifry http://www.orbooks.com/our-b... http://bit.ly/f4XxNx | Mar 06 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj http://bit.ly/eS4ARg | Mar 06 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is someone who loves Big Mac's a "Mac fan"? | Mar 06 19:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The New Economy. http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/The_New_Economy Likeable 80's retro. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 06 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya BBC reporter questioned why helicopter landing when they could take a taxi from ship. Now ship was there to collect them #bollocks | Mar 06 20:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] It's impossible to express in words how unenthusiastic I am about working around this IE7 bug. | Mar 06 20:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Go and give Gordon support/encouragement for his intention to write a novel in a month! http://tinyurl.com/6brnagn | Mar 06 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya all of a sudden shit coverage from BBC does not count for much. Why do people trust them? | Mar 06 20:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to "All quiet on the Western front" on Radio 7! - Great stuff! | Mar 06 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/guEerc #eff #sony #DMCA | Mar 06 20:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Android Just Overtook Apple iOS and BlackBerry http://tinyurl.com/49fpo52 !android - !wp7 !apple !microsoft !mvpbuzz !mvp | Mar 06 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Patches Published For Merging S3TC Library Into Mesa: It's a slightly more interesting Sunday than usual. Beside... http://bit.ly/e4VOE5 | Mar 06 20:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey !fedora folks, our GSoC application is due by Friday! There have to be more awesome ideas to add, no? http://ur1.ca/3ep1o | Mar 06 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Sweet Mother Logic. http://ur1.ca/3ep23 Eclectic, oddly compelling instrumentals. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 06 21:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh shiney! I'm adding RSS feeds to the ugliest UI I've ever had to deal with. | Mar 06 21:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm going to review Scientific Linux 6 shortly (just because I've been meaning to) | Mar 06 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | interesting to note that at the same time as this obfuscated kernel source, various Fedora related projects have started snubbing RHEL clones | Mar 06 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | (No RPM Fusion for EL 6) | Mar 06 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | AtRPMs and ELRepo are still around | Mar 06 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | a while back, some of the RPM Fusion people were trying to FUD both of them as "breaking" Fedora releases | Mar 06 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | ELRepo has never claimed that adding them to Fedora was a good idea (though they can't stop a person from it) and AtRPMs does replace some Fedora RPMs with its own versions, but always names them such that they won't break distribution upgrades | Mar 06 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder how long Red Hat/Fedora have been trying to subvert free RHEL clones without coming right out and saying it :) | Mar 06 21:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: This obfuscated kernel stunt is not the first time Redhat has done it either. | Mar 06 21:46 |
| oiaohm | They did it when mandrake was branching off as well. | Mar 06 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | for a while, RPM Fusion for EL 5 was providing kmods for video drivers because of Nvidia and ATI having this annoying habit or replacing libGL.so with their own versions, but the RPMs provided for RHEL have never done this | Mar 06 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | the ATI installer package builds an RPM that adds a diversion to their libGL.so without replacing the system package | Mar 06 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | if you remove the RPM later, your system goes right back to using MESA | Mar 06 21:47 |
| oiaohm | ATI has been good that way. | Mar 06 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | but if you run it as the generic Linux installer, it will bulldoze your system library | Mar 06 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 21:47 |
| oiaohm | The Nvidia driver has a hunt down and destroy any other opengl lib it can find. | Mar 06 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Tired of parents treating me like meat | Mar 06 21:48 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if you do use the generic installer, it's a simple matter of yum reinstall libgl (or whatever that package name was) | Mar 06 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | it won't break your system, you just won't have 3d until you do that | Mar 06 21:49 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia has a search and destory feature in there installer. DaemonFC | Mar 06 21:49 |
| oiaohm | ATI only has the opps the file was in the same place we wanted to place it. | Mar 06 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, last time I used Nvidia's installer it was because I needed a beta driver to use with a kernel I built | Mar 06 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | and when it came time to remove it later in preference to a distro package, I was sorry :) | Mar 06 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia also does equal to windows by the way. | Mar 06 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just one package it destroys, with Nvidia you have to gut and replace ALL of Mesa | Mar 06 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | ATI is just an annoyance | Mar 06 21:51 |
| oiaohm | ATI is hamless if you install it right. | Mar 06 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia will prevent pretty much everything beyond framebuffer video if you remove it later | Mar 06 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @telecomix: Blackout on #Libya for dialup against #censorship: +49 231 97844321 (login: telecomix password: telecomix) #fb | Mar 06 21:51 | |
| oiaohm | The generic installer can be told not to overlap with ATI DaemonFC | Mar 06 21:51 |
| oiaohm | And then you can alter the ld.so.conf so it works. | Mar 06 21:52 |
| oiaohm | Then remove ati just falls back like any good install should. | Mar 06 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't remember what I did to gut Nvidia, but I was close to backing up and formatting | Mar 06 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't end up having to, but it litters your system with its crap, it's not just limited to Mesa or X | Mar 06 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia has the most evil driver in the world (R) | Mar 06 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | if your distro doesn't provide packages and you don't want to use Nouveau, find one that does | Mar 06 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | don't ever use their installer | Mar 06 21:55 |
| oiaohm | Last time I end up running a debian audit script. | Mar 06 21:56 |
| oiaohm | Any package with missing files reinstall. | Mar 06 21:57 |
| oiaohm | or files that don't pass checksum. | Mar 06 21:57 |
| oiaohm | That are elf | Mar 06 21:57 |
| oiaohm | Its one of my anti root kit scripts. | Mar 06 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | I kept in mind how ugly Nvidia's driver was when it came time to buy a new card | Mar 06 21:57 |
| oiaohm | I made the mistake on a system I had installed Nvidia | Mar 06 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't the deciding factor, but geez | Mar 06 21:58 |
| oiaohm | of running my anti root kit scripts | Mar 06 21:58 |
| oiaohm | That is how I knew it would work. | Mar 06 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is a batchelor pad for dads, called a Dad Pad? or is that a Thinkpad used by Fathers Lobby Groups? | Mar 06 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] And here comes the breakdown. #nov4 | Mar 06 21:58 | |
| oiaohm | Ie Poff by by Nvidia | Mar 06 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all of Nvidia's performance I understand comes from working around the X server instead of using it | Mar 06 21:58 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia is doing what DRI2 enables. | Mar 06 21:59 |
| oiaohm | But DRI2 does it cleanly. | Mar 06 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | X.org is probably more mismanaged now than ever, not like Nvidia needs to look hard to use them as an excuse | Mar 06 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anyone who uses a vocoder straight to ICC Life sentence listening to singers using a vocoder. #justice | Mar 06 22:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it my imagination or just the circle of people I follow? there's a large proportion of Canadians using Identi.ca \o/ clued up countries | Mar 06 22:00 | |
| oiaohm | X,org has been trying to delete old DRI1 hacks for ever. | Mar 06 22:00 |
| oiaohm | Problem is delete them Nvidia drivers die. | Mar 06 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're becoming what they criticized XFree86 of being | Mar 06 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | this big monolithic mess with varying degrees of quality and overlapping drivers, so on so forth | Mar 06 22:00 |
| oiaohm | Really X.org is not DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:00 |
| oiaohm | The X.org code base has reduced in size. | Mar 06 22:01 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the overlapping drivers started before x.org DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:01 |
| oiaohm | Dri1 was a major design stuff up done by Xfree86 DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:02 |
| oiaohm | DRI1 was built with the logic that a person would Only need 1 opengl application at a time. | Mar 06 22:02 |
| oiaohm | Now how do you fix something like that. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, obviously you can't | Mar 06 22:03 |
| oiaohm | Only way is basically rebuild everything. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:03 |
| oiaohm | DRI2 | Mar 06 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with what Wayland is doing in principle | Mar 06 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | but in fact, I'm skeptical they'll get everyone onboard | Mar 06 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Everything has to be rebuilt for DRI2. And in the processor Wayland got invented. | Mar 06 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Wayland and X.org are sharing many parts. | Mar 06 22:04 |
| oiaohm | Including keyboard input; | Mar 06 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well right now you have ATI using DRI 1, and Nvidia using a combination of DRI 1 and their own extensions held together with chewing gum | Mar 06 22:05 |
| oiaohm | Really the lead of X.org is onboard with Wayland. | Mar 06 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's why only the free drivers work with Wayland, or KMS, or..... | Mar 06 22:05 |
| oiaohm | ATI is trying to do away with there closed source drivers. | Mar 06 22:05 |
| oiaohm | So ATI will get kinda fixed at some point. | Mar 06 22:05 |
| oiaohm | The long term plan from ATI is quite complex. | Mar 06 22:06 |
| oiaohm | Ie open source drivers get so far then they will release binary libs todo the patent covered bit. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes insane one of the last moves is merge the streams. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:06 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia its getting harder and harder each release of X.org for them to remain Dri1 | Mar 06 22:07 |
| oiaohm | And Nvidia does not want to have to release KMS to kernel. | Mar 06 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Naming of Fedora 16 underway - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_16 #fb | Mar 06 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Goregaon West ! | Mar 06 22:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | so basically you're seeing ATI support the freee driver framework for the same reason Fluendo supports GStreamer | Mar 06 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | they hope to sell you binaries to plug into the "free" framework later on | Mar 06 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise it could be unusable | Mar 06 22:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Not sell AMD will want to sell the cards to you. | Mar 06 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | you know what I mean | Mar 06 22:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they don't want you to be feature behind due to patents. | Mar 06 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | you still need them even though there will be some baseline functionality without it | Mar 06 22:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Now of course if AMD can get the right patent agreements or implement the patent coverd parts in hardware. | Mar 06 22:10 |
| oiaohm | So that out the box it works AMD will. | Mar 06 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | here, please build this nifty new framework to support our nonfree plugins | Mar 06 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | you've saved us so much money on programmer salary, thanks so much! | Mar 06 22:10 |
| oiaohm | Problem is not all the old card were doing all the opengl features that are patent covered in hardware. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:10 |
| oiaohm | AMD is basically going to work around a problem kindly. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:11 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia from leaks appears to be working on a completely new driver for Linux in house. | Mar 06 22:11 |
| oiaohm | Gstreamer was designed to allow closed source plugins in. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:13 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Note AMD is also talking to a lot of patent holder of opengl stuff about letting open source. | Mar 06 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Patent Troll, please find it in your heart of hearts to give up this racketeering scheme that our milk cow of 1,000 tits, known also as the patent system, has enabled you to sit back and make money on without the process of actually making, anything. Your friends, AMD | Mar 06 22:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do you think AMD is talk nice. | Mar 06 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Dear Patent Troll Please consider being nice to open source or we will have to start researching other ways to implement the functionality. So one day we will pay you nothing. | Mar 06 22:19 |
| oiaohm | And Patnet Troll most likely will listern because AMD has done that before. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:20 |
| oiaohm | AMD really does not care about paying patents as long as it does not interfere with what they want todo. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Dear AMD, call us when you figure out how to get every game made that uses S3TC to work without any S3TC support in the driver. BTW, thanks for paying us royalties on your use of it in Catalyst, those checks are nice. If you can think of anything else that we may own a government sanctioned monopoly on that you would like to pay us for and transfer more costs onto your customers over, have your people call our people. Toodles! | Mar 06 22:21 |
| oiaohm | That would be a bad responce. | Mar 06 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | What's ridiculous is how this bullshit can end up making it into a standard like OpenGL | Mar 06 22:22 |
| oiaohm | Because AMD hardware implemenation S3TC is covered by AMD patent. | Mar 06 22:23 |
| oiaohm | So they don't have to pay for that one. | Mar 06 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can get anything done tonight or if I'm just going to fail again. #nov4 | Mar 06 22:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I read somewhere that being owned by non Canadians can be legal reason for seizure, I don't wanna build a brand then lose it | Mar 06 22:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter how brainwashed I was/am thought .ca was California | Mar 06 22:23 | |
| DaemonFC | an industry standard is almost always packed full of patents like a thanksgiving turkey | Mar 06 22:23 |
| oiaohm | AMD can in theory shot down S3TC | Mar 06 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | they tend to use things like the Khronos Group as a circle jerk | Mar 06 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all #lmde needs to be the perfect laptop / netbook distro is the option to encrypt /home in the installer !linux !linuxmint | Mar 06 22:25 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the problem is that you can't call something an open standards and then tell everyone that wants to implement it where to send the checks | Mar 06 22:25 |
| oiaohm | Recent years getting patented features into Khronos Group has been getting harder. | Mar 06 22:25 |
| oiaohm | Any ideas why. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:26 |
| oiaohm | All the video card makers have worked out the patent agreements are more of a pain in the ass than profit making. | Mar 06 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, why isn't anyone scared about the Direct3D state tracker? There's an entire API full of god knows what that is maintained by Microsoft | Mar 06 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | and we're worried about one texture compression algorithm in OpenGL? | Mar 06 22:26 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft patent threatens Video card makers by the way. | Mar 06 22:27 |
| oiaohm | it kinda woke them up. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:27 |
| oiaohm | To how stupid they were being. | Mar 06 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | That D3D state tracker is more worrying than Mono, just watch what happens when you have Linux programs that need DirectX and Microsoft launches a lawsuit | Mar 06 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Part of Mexico :-) | Mar 06 22:28 | |
| oiaohm | Problem MS is limited. | Mar 06 22:28 |
| oiaohm | Most of the features of the state tracker are exposed by the video card makers. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | S3TC is just about one washed up patent troll that nobody cares about anymore, and it brings the OpenGL state tracker work to a halt | Mar 06 22:28 |
| oiaohm | No S3TC did not bring work to a halt. | Mar 06 22:30 |
| oiaohm | Floating point textures has. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:30 |
| oiaohm | 2 patents of hell. | Mar 06 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're debating whether to make Mesa the new LAME | Mar 06 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | jsut ship it as source code and let the distro or user worry about it | Mar 06 22:31 |
| oiaohm | The Floating point textures one is worse because you need that functionally to match fully base spec of opengl 2.0 and is required in opengl 3.0 and 4.0 | Mar 06 22:31 |
| oiaohm | S3TC is not a required part of the spec. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | Dear user, OpenGL isn't all that open, so will you please compile it yourself or get it from a server in the Russian Federation? Thanks. | Mar 06 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter within a few lifetimes yes mostly | Mar 06 22:33 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Interesting thing here. | Mar 06 22:34 |
| oiaohm | ATI implement the extention for floating point textures | Mar 06 22:34 |
| oiaohm | using a patent they did not own. | Mar 06 22:34 |
| oiaohm | Thank you ATI for having incompetent Patent tracking. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I am sorry I do not understand | Mar 06 22:36 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Really Khronos group has been a lot better since AMD bought ATI out. | Mar 06 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | ATI was a joke | Mar 06 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I do not know what a tv chow is. | Mar 06 22:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | "ATI Premium Graphics" Oh, is THAT why your driver segfaults if I turn Compiz on? Awesome. | Mar 06 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their driver has always been a pain in the ass, it's just been less of one every month since AMD bought them. | Mar 06 22:40 |
| oiaohm | ATI is improving. | Mar 06 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Getting to the point AMD will start using there own branding. | Mar 06 22:41 |
| oiaohm | and the ATI brand will be allowed die. | Mar 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | I got the idea to move over to Enterprise Linux because AMD officially supports it | Mar 06 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | that's not always the case with other distros, it's more like good luck installing it, oh it has bugs, great | Mar 06 22:41 |
| oiaohm | Meego will also be offically supported by AMD. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:42 |
| oiaohm | There is about 8 distributions Offically supported. | Mar 06 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Ubuntu is supposedly one of them | Mar 06 22:43 |
| oiaohm | correction offically supported with developers. | Mar 06 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | but to get that support, you have to use Ubuntu :) | Mar 06 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is offically supported for packaging. | Mar 06 22:43 |
| oiaohm | Not for real coding. | Mar 06 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | What is the RHEL upgrade policy like? | Mar 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | like for random packages | Mar 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | will you get a new Firefox and Pidgin or what? | Mar 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | like in point upgrades | Mar 06 22:44 |
| oiaohm | I normally don't use Redhat as a desktop. | Mar 06 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | I notice Pidgin has their own repo that is up to date for EL | Mar 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | there's Red Hat Enterprise Linux ISOs that make their way to bittorrent sites | Mar 06 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | which is just dumb | Mar 06 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Scientific Linux 6 they have money. | Mar 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | there's free clones and you can get updates with those | Mar 06 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have a Red Hat Network subscription, you can't even get security updates for RHEL | Mar 06 22:46 |
| oiaohm | You can if you connect and basically turn it into fedora. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Mar 06 22:47 |
| oiaohm | Red Hat Enterpise contains a downgrade option. | Mar 06 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | RHN is the update mechanism right? | Mar 06 22:47 |
| oiaohm | Connect to Fedora repos | Mar 06 22:48 |
| oiaohm | And magically it ends up fedora. | Mar 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | but that's the problem | Mar 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | if you use RHEL, you don't want Fedora | Mar 06 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is new and bug prone | Mar 06 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 06 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Why you have to pay for updates | Mar 06 22:48 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has the best protection against pirates. | Mar 06 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | right, they backport a decent amount of stuff into EL | Mar 06 22:49 |
| oiaohm | They can pirate as much as they like but its worthless withou the update server. | Mar 06 22:49 |
| oiaohm | EL is Cern. | Mar 06 22:49 |
| oiaohm | Cern has been working with Redhat for a long time. | Mar 06 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I was coming around to that but thought it was my cultural ignorance, tell me the joke | Mar 06 22:50 | |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 5 may say Linux 2.6.18, but it has a significant amount of bug fixes and new drivers, features, etc. from newer kernels | Mar 06 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Intesting other way over. | Mar 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | a Red Hat engineer said at one point that "there is a stable ABI for Linux, it's called RHEL, it lasts 10 years, and everyone should use it" | Mar 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 22:51 |
| oiaohm | RHEL developed a lot of those patches before they went upstream. | Mar 06 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | of course using the actual RHEL as a desktop is pricey | Mar 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | $86 a year per seat | Mar 06 22:52 |
| oiaohm | And Cern was not having a bar of that. DaemonFC | Mar 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | right, that adds up fast | Mar 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | and if you want it as a server..... | Mar 06 22:52 |
| oiaohm | So leading to the existance of Scientific Linux | Mar 06 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 06 22:52 |
| oiaohm | But Redhat understood this. | Mar 06 22:52 |
| oiaohm | So they both share code with each other. | Mar 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well, SL is not a threat to Red Hat | Mar 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is selling support | Mar 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | not software | Mar 06 22:53 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | CentOS or SL is where you go if you wouldn't be paying Red Hat anyway | Mar 06 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | so why bother trying to muscle them out of existence? | Mar 06 22:54 |
| oiaohm | Main reason to go redhat is the support. | Mar 06 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to be trying to set up SL 6 as a desktop | Mar 06 22:54 |
| oiaohm | There support contracts are good. | Mar 06 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be fun even if I don't manage to get results :) | Mar 06 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] China deputizes smart phones to spy on Beijing residents’ real-time location. https://eff.org/r.5zw #privacy | Mar 06 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Looks like the latter for now. #nov4 | Mar 06 22:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, my dad says that you only ever see RHEL or Suse, but it's RHEL 3:1 from what he's seen | Mar 06 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | says he's never seen a customer using Ubuntu :) | Mar 06 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I watched a programme about how USA citizens see Canada you are unreconstructed European socialists :-) | Mar 06 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has already demonstrated that they can't stand behind Ubuntu | Mar 06 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | so it goes to reason, "Why pay them to?" | Mar 06 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen people get good results from deploying Ubuntu Server in a low workload capacity | Mar 06 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | but I've never seen super computing projects using it | Mar 06 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 06 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @askmeaks A 13 Line #Patch That Boosts #Intel Sandy Bridge Performance http://bit.ly/dQjJg9 #Driver #Linux #MESA #fb | Mar 06 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @askmeaks Back up #Email with a Single #Command http://bit.ly/e5hz82 #IMAPGrab #Email #OpenSource #Python #Script #fb | Mar 06 23:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] satipera BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in not giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 06 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Forget Saudi Arabia forget Bahrain concentrate on #Libya #westernhypocracy #hyper | Mar 06 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] stumbled across a glorious dark #GTK theme http://tighturl.com/2zm8 | Mar 06 23:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @StoryADayMay: RT @TheWritersDen: You fail only if you stop writing. ~ Ray Bradbury #WriterBlood | Mar 06 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter No it is not we all do | Mar 06 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The west does not give a wet shite about democracy, perhaps it is better to join in with the Arab uprising. | Mar 06 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] She nodded back. “So you might also merit the Goddess’ protection. #amwriting | Mar 06 23:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Obama Rescinds Dangerous Bush-Era "Conscience Regulation" http://ur1.ca/3er15 #abortion #healthcare #PlannedParenthood #religion | Mar 06 23:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66290348 | Mar 07 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:36:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Actually Meego and WebOS needed to get going on tablets last year. Read today's 4k opus... | Mar 07 00:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66290417 | Mar 07 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:38:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Quoted Mary Jo a lot, sice she's the Microsoft expert. Conclusion, WIndows for ARM has been in the works since summer 2009. | Mar 07 00:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lazyweb: who owns or runs condosingapore.com? #fb | Mar 07 00:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66300725 | Mar 07 00:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:04:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you pls follow us here & on Twitter? This is @einfeldt posting about FOSS in schools | Mar 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh, nice! | Mar 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66300807 | Mar 07 00:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:05:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you also consider doing a blog about our work putting computers in public schools? Thx either way Partimus.org | Mar 07 00:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/44552739207909376 | Mar 07 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @dredeyedick: @schestowitz Al Jazeera - English, Russia Today, BBC4, @FrontlineClub more, free, download http://livestation.com desktop app. #news | Mar 07 00:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "By using Free Open Source Software and repurposed hardware, we aim to do our part to help bridge the digital divide." http://partimus.org/ | Mar 07 00:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes for the new !techbytes episode are now out http://ur1.ca/3erdd | Mar 07 00:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LFS 6.8 Release http://ur1.ca/3erdz #linux from scratch that is.. great stuff! | Mar 07 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pastebin #Plasma widget http://ur1.ca/3erep very handy! #kde desktop is fantastic, give it a try, | Mar 07 00:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Slur “Open Core”: Toward More Diligent Analysis http://ur1.ca/3eriw #opencore is hardcore marketing, not value | Mar 07 00:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Things OS X Does Better than #Linux http://ur1.ca/3erna someone can respond with 50 things #gnu Linux does better than #MacOSuX | Mar 07 00:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Post: Tiny Core 3.5 http://ur1.ca/3ero2 I was gonna install that, it quickly gains status | Mar 07 00:40 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: on the 5 things OS X does better. Really we should not fight them that much. A lot should be taken as goals to achive. | Mar 07 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @jonobacon helps openwash #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3eh0z what about b0ng, silver lie, OOXML, #swpats aggression? Open...to interpretation | Mar 07 00:41 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: systemd coming to Linux is based on Apple service management because it was better. | Mar 07 00:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sunshineejc #LIBYA IS BURNING!~IS ANYONE WATCHING?: ~ 1000+ protesters killed from helicopters & roof top snipers. #jan25 #feb17 #P2 | Mar 07 00:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ...Mexican history - #Nahua civlisation is 12,000 yrs old!! - with a segue into the crazy intertwined fates of Brazil & Portugal | Mar 07 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I did not know that... | Mar 07 00:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @wwwuse: How will Microsoft lose a majority market share? Outlook from an investment site http://t.co/GV3BzuA | Mar 07 00:45 | |
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| gnufreex | good morning | Mar 07 01:14 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 01:14 |
| oiaohm | Good afternoon. gnufreex | Mar 07 01:16 |
| gnufreex | Lol. Ms troll claims he's an RHCE and fails hard: http://forums.channelregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/#c_1003372 | Mar 07 01:16 |
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| gnufreex | I almost sprayed coffee all over the keyboard | Mar 07 01:18 |
| gnufreex | So funny | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | And this is not the first time Redhat has done this. | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | In the time of the Mandrake Redhat split. gnufreex | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | yes it did ruin Mandrake stablish kernel back then. | Mar 07 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Ie Redhat has just reverted. | Mar 07 01:19 |
| gnufreex | You mean, when Bruce Perens complained that RH kernel is too different? | Mar 07 01:20 |
| oiaohm | If you are thinking 1996 we are on the same wave lengh. | Mar 07 01:22 |
| gnufreex | Hmm.. no. | Mar 07 01:22 |
| gnufreex | This is 2001 | Mar 07 01:22 |
| oiaohm | Bruce Perens complained a few times. | Mar 07 01:22 |
| gnufreex | or so | Mar 07 01:22 |
| oiaohm | First complain from him was at the start of the mandrake/redhat split. | Mar 07 01:23 |
| gnufreex | I touched GNU/Linux first time about then | Mar 07 01:23 |
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| gnufreex | What RH did here is smart | Mar 07 01:23 |
| gnufreex | Only problem is that Debian could have little problems. | Mar 07 01:24 |
| oiaohm | Its legal. | Mar 07 01:24 |
| gnufreex | With tracking patches. | Mar 07 01:24 |
| gnufreex | Off course is legal | Mar 07 01:24 |
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| oiaohm | Really is not a big problem either. | Mar 07 01:24 |
| gnufreex | But I don't get why people complain that much | Mar 07 01:24 |
| gnufreex | It is not problem at all | Mar 07 01:24 |
| gnufreex | Ethically they are fine too | Mar 07 01:25 |
| gnufreex | And they are not lying about anything, Brian Stevens admited everything. | Mar 07 01:26 |
| gnufreex | Some claim they clash with spirit of GPL | Mar 07 01:27 |
| gnufreex | But I don't see how. | Mar 07 01:27 |
| gnufreex | If they didn't do before, this move doesn't bring them against spirit of GPL. | Mar 07 01:28 |
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| MinceR | well, the patches would be the preferred form to make modificiations, would they not? | Mar 07 01:33 |
| oiaohm | http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=119 This is rare a case alteration that makes me kinda want. | Mar 07 01:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Patches would be preferable. But it also means snooping at other peoples homework as well | Mar 07 01:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Maybe a source compare and patch solver might be invented. | Mar 07 01:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to make deal with embed device dumps simpler. | Mar 07 01:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rkallensee RT @evan: Ooh. https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus #nodejs #ostatus #fsw #looksawesome | Mar 07 02:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Ping me on twitter @eschnou <== Ho irony :-)" - https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus < he is also on Identi.ca /cc: @evan @rkallensee | Mar 07 02:06 | |
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| gnufreex | google can remove stuff from people's phones? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/google_remotely_kills_android_malware_apps/ | Mar 07 02:27 |
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| MinceR | yes they can | Mar 07 02:28 |
| MinceR | it's in the android market agreement | Mar 07 02:28 |
| gnufreex | i am glad I didn't buy Android phone. | Mar 07 02:29 |
| MinceR | though not many details were published, so it's possible that they could technically remove anything | Mar 07 02:29 |
| MinceR | i'm glad too, except i bought a symbian phone and that isn't good either | Mar 07 02:29 |
| MinceR | i wonder if one can disable the killswitch after rooting... | Mar 07 02:29 |
| gnufreex | I still have a dumbphone | Mar 07 02:29 |
| gnufreex | from Nokia | Mar 07 02:30 |
| gnufreex | Some odd number | Mar 07 02:30 |
| gnufreex | forgot what | Mar 07 02:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hitting the B$A will clue bats continues to be a lost cause - http://ur1.ca/3d6g6 #fb | Mar 07 02:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I did not make my goal (uploading final ms) but new scenes are done. (more work than I thought), putting me a day behind schedule. :( | Mar 07 02:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning @kevie and good night !identiverse | Mar 07 02:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now using mutt as an email client, liking it so far. !linux | Mar 07 02:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now its time to setup a .screenrc file. | Mar 07 02:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/44645021160448000 | Mar 07 02:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz: I have literally no idea what your last tweet actually means. English? :-) | Mar 07 02:59 |
| schestowitz | The point was, Facebook is *very* proprietary (and being partly owned by Microsoft it promotes Microsoft wares) but wants "open" image | Mar 07 03:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44639295063068672 | Mar 07 03:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: "...Windows has 75% PC market share..." that's an interesting figure lower than usually quoted do you know the source? | Mar 07 03:00 |
| schestowitz | I wondered the same thing.... | Mar 07 03:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #WikiLeaks: US pressured 'allies' to ignore, not prosecute US kidnappings, #torture programmes http://t.co/OuquJXl | Mar 07 03:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget Gaddafi. Blair's new best friend is a despot guilty of even bloodier slaughter - http://bit.ly/gwDPYx Daily Mail, but still.. #blair | Mar 07 03:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook and open source: 'we've come a long way' - http://bit.ly/hgvb4Q useful reminder that #Facebook depends on #opensource | Mar 07 03:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience." - Slashdot MOTD !q | Mar 07 03:10 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: 75 percent I have seen as a quoted number when all x86 hardare total is counted. | Mar 07 03:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/dEgl5f and how #sony #freespeech | Mar 07 03:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #DNA rules will restore public trust - http://bit.ly/fr3nPN sad to see Labour pushing its tired authoritarian #FUD here | Mar 07 03:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Share a YouTube Video? Go to Jail - http://bit.ly/i6vWu1 petition about Bryan McCarthy & ICE overreach #linking | Mar 07 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Costs of #DNA #Sequencing Falling Fast – Look At These Graphs! - http://bit.ly/hwJAPW people are not ready for the implications of this | Mar 07 03:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] FUCK OFF LINKEDIN. | Mar 07 03:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Chain of Fools: Upgrading through every version of windows" lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14 #fb | Mar 07 03:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @graziano #Google flips #Android kill switch, destroys a batch of malicious apps: http://ur1.ca/3eu0m | Mar 07 03:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Video - QWassr for NOKIA N900 - A Quick Demo of My Favorite Twitter client http://t.co/Lkj1Dzw @qwassr | Mar 07 03:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forbes Estimates M$ Down to 75% Share of PCs http://ur1.ca/3eu8f #gnu #linux #mac #apple #windows | Mar 07 03:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat corporate timeline http://ur1.ca/3eu9j Red Hat acquired AOL's Netscape server software for about $25 million in cash in September" | Mar 07 03:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: PadOrbiter v2: Joggler Orbiter built atop MeeGo http://youtu.be/ZRKkqxWcytI?a via @tschak | Mar 07 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Denver Museum promotes #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/3eu9p 'in this case it just said “Linux”.' #mozilla #advocacy | Mar 07 03:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best Lightweight #GNU #Linux Distro http://ur1.ca/3eub6 "..bootable live USB stick for itself, it can also be installed to local hard drive" | Mar 07 04:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Best Lightweight Linux Distro | digg freeware .::. Size~: 20.92 KB | Mar 07 04:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD needs fresh Blood! http://ur1.ca/3eubl cute devil *needs* "fresh blood" #bsd #freedom | Mar 07 04:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FreeBSD needs fresh Blood! | Martin Wilke .::. Size~: 33.37 KB | Mar 07 04:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Open Source Software has been a huge blessing to the software community and businesses in general." http://ur1.ca/3eucl #pakistan #freedom | Mar 07 04:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source or proprietary: Killing creativity or enabling end-users – The Express Tribune .::. Size~: 39.46 KB | Mar 07 04:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Crowdsourced is not Open Source: I’ve heard quite a few conversations that treat open source interchangeably w... http://wmk.me/dKwc3y | Mar 07 04:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older Android versions http://ur1.ca/3es44 fragme^H^H^H^Hversity #android #linux #choice | Mar 07 04:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ☆ Crowdsourced is not Open Source « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 52.7 KB | Mar 07 04:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of#Motorola #Xoom http://ur1.ca/3eue2 "Don't jump for the Xoom just because it's the first—they rushed it out prematurely" #linux | Mar 07 04:06 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 07 04:11 |
| gnufreex | geeking | Mar 07 04:11 |
| gnufreex | s | Mar 07 04:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 RC two days away. Final date unknown, still. | Mar 07 04:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ovidius: @carlopiana Maybe someone can explain me why having to assign Google the right to remote kill apps does not violate the GPL #GQ! | Mar 07 04:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44686079386857472 | Mar 07 04:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: Now we need those Corp's & individuals to admit that it's not just Windows & Mac but that this Linux thing actually exists! | Mar 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | Indeed | Mar 07 04:18 |
| oiaohm | Boy people don't get it. | Mar 07 04:18 |
| oiaohm | First generations of a device are always sux | Mar 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share | Mar 07 04:19 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Mar 07 04:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why a Xoom? http://ur1.ca/3euk2 not as negative as Fox Technica #xoom #motorola #linux #android #tablet #formfactor | Mar 07 04:20 | |
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| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=is_it_time_to_reboot_or_replace_wikipedi&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Mar 07 04:20 |
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| schestowitz | It's not *that* bad, is it? | Mar 07 04:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: Next after #Natty? The #Oneiric Ocelot! http://goo.gl/O0r4P | Mar 07 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Server Attention Span http://xkcd.com/869/ | Mar 07 04:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older !Android versions http://goo.gl/SaKgK | Mar 07 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In Unity [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/gb9oHV | Mar 07 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica Feature: Ars reviews the Motorola Xoom !android tablet http://goo.gl/2n6IB | Mar 07 04:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Clement: Access to the Internet "fast becoming" crucial part of social and economic fabric of the country. #UBB | Mar 07 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In !Unity http://goo.gl/lY4zO !Ubuntu #Natty | Mar 07 04:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: Google Summer of Code 2011 for !GNOME & openSUSE http://goo.gl/6jgZv | Mar 07 04:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can turn this #nov4 around | Mar 07 04:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Launch Party in Prague http://goo.gl/5nmq7 | Mar 07 04:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu on CR-48! Windows 7 Launcher on Android, and Copyright Infringement Sucks [3/6/11 Vlog] http://ur1.ca/3eut4 #chromeos | Mar 07 04:36 | |
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| gnufreex | Of course, Xoom has NVIDIA GPU so no Free drivers. | Mar 07 04:39 |
| gnufreex | Motorola sucks badly. | Mar 07 04:40 |
| gnufreex | They could use Freescale | Mar 07 04:40 |
| gnufreex | But they don't have gpu | Mar 07 04:40 |
| gnufreex | PowerVR also do't have free drivers | Mar 07 04:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: btw | Mar 07 04:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not really right to call it an nvidia gpu | Mar 07 04:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia bought those arm gpus through buying a company | Mar 07 04:44 |
| gnufreex | It has GPU on SoC | Mar 07 04:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not related to actual geforces at all | Mar 07 04:44 |
| gnufreex | oh thatr | Mar 07 04:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, geforces are pretty shitty, but these are worse | Mar 07 04:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're really inferior to powervrs | Mar 07 04:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/pcWcL | Mar 07 04:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont know why anyone is building on the tegra platform | Mar 07 04:45 |
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| Diablo-D3 | its a pile of shit all around | Mar 07 04:45 |
| gnufreex | I thought it had couple of GF shaders | Mar 07 04:45 |
| gnufreex | But it seems you'r right | Mar 07 04:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | not quite | Mar 07 04:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're kind of backro-genering their own shit | Mar 07 04:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | to make it suck less | Mar 07 04:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | they'd be better off making an ultra-ulv geforce | Mar 07 04:46 |
| gnufreex | But still, no free driver? | Mar 07 04:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, you wont see a free driver outside of powervr | Mar 07 04:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and google is trying to make a big push though the mesa community for a free powervr driver | Mar 07 04:46 |
| gnufreex | There is free driver in the works for Qualcom snapdragon | Mar 07 04:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and by "big push" I mean shouting through a megaphone until they get it | Mar 07 04:46 |
| gnufreex | That uses some GPU that starts with A | Mar 07 04:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: yeah but fuck snapdragons | Mar 07 04:47 |
| gnufreex | Adreno | Mar 07 04:47 |
| gnufreex | That's name of GPU | Mar 07 04:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate Adrenos | Mar 07 04:47 |
| gnufreex | They bought that from AMD | Mar 07 04:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but amd bought it from someone else | Mar 07 04:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, ati did | Mar 07 04:48 |
| gnufreex | I don't know much about embeded GPUs.. | Mar 07 04:48 |
| gnufreex | Is there any more companies? | Mar 07 04:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | ati bought somebody, it became the ati imageon, then amd bought ati, then amd sold it to qualcomm | Mar 07 04:48 |
| gnufreex | I know just about those | Mar 07 04:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the same way the goforce is absolutely not related to geforces, the imageon isnt a radeon | Mar 07 04:49 |
| gnufreex | Matrox could make embeded GPU, they fall behind on everytging, you would think they can use smallest manufacturing process posible and it would fit in cell phone :-) | Mar 07 04:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 04:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 04:50 |
| gnufreex | It is crappy | Mar 07 04:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is probably going to destroy that entire market | Mar 07 04:50 |
| gnufreex | So it fits | Mar 07 04:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | and no, you're just describing the powervr evolution | Mar 07 04:51 |
| gnufreex | Fusion is x86 | Mar 07 04:51 |
| gnufreex | sucks | Mar 07 04:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is quasi-x86 | Mar 07 04:51 |
| MinceR | what, fusion will ship with drivers that work? :> | Mar 07 04:51 |
| gnufreex | how do you mean quasi | Mar 07 04:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: erm, it had working drivers before fusion existed | Mar 07 04:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: fusion uses almost normal 5xxx cores | Mar 07 04:52 |
| gnufreex | it is full x86 | Mar 07 04:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: AMD is extremely good at making a fast small x86 decoder | Mar 07 04:52 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: he hates x86 and is an amd fan, so it can't be x86, obviously :> | Mar 07 04:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and they may end up just making the K10 RISC language accessable in future versions | Mar 07 04:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | its already accessable in some products, just not consumer ones | Mar 07 04:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and ARM is kind of shit now | Mar 07 04:53 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 dream on | Mar 07 04:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like how it evolved | Mar 07 04:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | dream on what? | Mar 07 04:53 |
| MinceR | nobody cares what you like :> | Mar 07 04:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize K7, K8, and K10 are all RISC cores, right? | Mar 07 04:53 |
| gnufreex | They will not make RISC acessible | Mar 07 04:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they already _did_ make it accessible | Mar 07 04:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 04:53 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 I know it is RISC core | Mar 07 04:53 |
| gnufreex | But it is not full | Mar 07 04:53 |
| gnufreex | it is very crappy RISC core | Mar 07 04:54 |
| gnufreex | mutated and all | Mar 07 04:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not crappy at all] | Mar 07 04:54 |
| gnufreex | It is not real RISC. | Mar 07 04:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, its even realer RISC than ARM is | Mar 07 04:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only instructions that exist are for hardware features | Mar 07 04:54 |
| gnufreex | It is like when you bread elephant and a snake | Mar 07 04:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | if the hardware does not explicitly do it, theres no op for it | Mar 07 04:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/3/2011: Forbes Says Microsoft’s Market Share is Down to 75%, Linux 2.6.38 is Coming, Xoom Reviews Out http://ur1.ca/3ev0v | Mar 07 04:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Forbes Says Microsoft’s Market Share is Down to 75%, Linux 2.6.38 is Coming, Xoom Reviews Out http://ur1.ca/3ev0v !techrights | Mar 07 04:55 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the x86 decoder is part of the instruction scheduler frontend, its not part of the core. | Mar 07 04:55 |
| gnufreex | So, how many registers core really has? | Mar 07 04:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | well, earlier K8s have something like 40 | Mar 07 04:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | K10s have upped it | Mar 07 04:55 |
| MinceR | afaik RISC is supposed to have simpler instruction scheduling than that | Mar 07 04:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: simple is the wrong word | Mar 07 04:56 |
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| gnufreex | x86 can only see 16 registers in long mode (x86-64) | Mar 07 04:56 |
| gnufreex | and 8 in 32-bit mode | Mar 07 04:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: it can see 16 normal registers, sure | Mar 07 04:56 |
| ---schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 cubexyz MinceR | Mar 07 04:56 | |
| ---schestowitz gives channel operator status to tessier_ | Mar 07 04:56 | |
| ---schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Mar 07 04:56 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but you forgot SSE2 registers | Mar 07 04:56 |
| gnufreex | screw SSE | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | ... | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | you fail at CPU design forever. | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow, all the registers seen from the x86 side are all virtualized | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | SSE should not be in core | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | That is x86 brainfuck | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're just instructions | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | NEON if off core | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | VIS is off core | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | AMD does not have a core for SSE | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | altiVec is off core | Mar 07 04:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just instructions. | Mar 07 04:57 |
| gnufreex | That is what I am saying | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt do the Intel brainfuck by dedicating a whole ALU subsystem for it | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, what you're saying is you fail at CPU design | Mar 07 04:58 |
| gnufreex | They have SSE in normal core | Mar 07 04:58 |
| gnufreex | integrated | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, because SSE _is normal instructions_ | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing to intergrate | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is no special hardware in the RISC core for SSE. | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | none. | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | at. | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | all. | Mar 07 04:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | its decoded by the instruction decoder and properly scheduled for an optimized case. | Mar 07 04:59 |
| gnufreex | It has separate pipeline | Mar 07 04:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope, it actually doesnt | Mar 07 04:59 |
| gnufreex | and it is pretty separated in every RISC | Mar 07 04:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize the RISC core has like 4 ALUs, right? | Mar 07 05:00 |
| gnufreex | not every | Mar 07 05:00 |
| gnufreex | but yes | Mar 07 05:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, Im talking the K10 here | Mar 07 05:00 |
| gnufreex | oh | Mar 07 05:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | the scheduler just farms them out | Mar 07 05:00 |
| gnufreex | I was talking about general RISC designs | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why ARM fails, btw | Mar 07 05:01 |
| gnufreex | I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 05:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | you may now shut the fuck up. | Mar 07 05:01 |
| gnufreex | I won't shut the fuck up | Mar 07 05:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you dont understand how the K10 is designed, then you have no right to say shit about it. | Mar 07 05:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | Guess what asshat, its better designed than that abortion ARM is peddling | Mar 07 05:02 |
| gnufreex | I know that all RISCx86 hybrids are fucked up | Mar 07 05:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | The only thing AMD needs to do is sell the core naked decoupled from the x86 decoder | Mar 07 05:02 |
| gnufreex | All | Mar 07 05:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its not a hybrid | Mar 07 05:02 |
| MinceR | but they don't do that | Mar 07 05:03 |
| gnufreex | It won't work. | Mar 07 05:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are decade old super computing clusters that use them in K8 RISC mode | Mar 07 05:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they're quite happy with them | Mar 07 05:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | gcc even has a native target for them, and linux boots on them | Mar 07 05:03 |
| gnufreex | hmm | Mar 07 05:03 |
| gnufreex | I must try that. | Mar 07 05:03 |
| gnufreex | Where can I find it? | Mar 07 05:04 |
| MinceR | how do they switch the k8 into risc mode? is it like switching to protected mode? | Mar 07 05:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | you need a special bios for it | Mar 07 05:04 |
| gnufreex | Where is it? | Mar 07 05:04 |
| MinceR | pft | Mar 07 05:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: its on boards you cant buy. | Mar 07 05:04 |
| gnufreex | Oh.. | Mar 07 05:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | only people who buy them from AMD get to have that. | Mar 07 05:04 |
| gnufreex | so you are bullshiting me | Mar 07 05:04 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 05:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | so unless you're ordering a 5000 cpu cluster, nope, not yours. | Mar 07 05:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | not at all | Mar 07 05:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not for consumers | Mar 07 05:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said that about 10 mintues ago | Mar 07 05:05 |
| gnufreex | ok | Mar 07 05:05 |
| gnufreex | I thought I will have some fun | Mar 07 05:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | but almost all the AMD clusters on the top 500 are not running in x86 mode | Mar 07 05:05 |
| MinceR | that can hardly be called "accessible", can it? | Mar 07 05:05 |
| gnufreex | Have one Phenom II here, but no | Mar 07 05:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: what gnufreex was saying is AMD never did this | Mar 07 05:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and AMD already did | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | except not really | Mar 07 05:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:53:42] <Diablo-D3> the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | only to special customers | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | meanwhile ARM is RISC to all users | Mar 07 05:06 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: Do you have some links and such. I wana see tests | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | i think that is the point here | Mar 07 05:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM is barely RISC at all now | Mar 07 05:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at what they did to it | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | i know what they did to it | Mar 07 05:06 |
| MinceR | they basically helped the bandwidth issue :> | Mar 07 05:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM11, A8, and A9 is ungodly horrid | Mar 07 05:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a giant ugly chip | Mar 07 05:07 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 yes, Urlich Drreper agrees with you. | Mar 07 05:07 |
| gnufreex | "embeded crap" | Mar 07 05:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: wow, nice insult there | Mar 07 05:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | go fuck yourself | Mar 07 05:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 05:07 |
| gnufreex | I am not insulting you | Mar 07 05:08 |
| gnufreex | ok, maybe a little | Mar 07 05:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think you're aware how much I hate Drepper | Mar 07 05:08 |
| gnufreex | I am not | Mar 07 05:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | You are now. | Mar 07 05:08 |
| gnufreex | give some AMD links | Mar 07 05:09 |
| gnufreex | I want to see that RISC mode | Mar 07 05:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | do it yourself. | Mar 07 05:09 |
| gnufreex | I just get links about AM2900 | Mar 07 05:10 |
| gnufreex | Google doesn't know about that thing you talk about | Mar 07 05:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | hmm googles useless | Mar 07 05:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ask nenolod about it | Mar 07 05:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think he might have a copy of the gcc patches too, Im not sure | Mar 07 05:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 named #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/19ghB | Mar 07 05:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 05:11 | |
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| gnufreex | Wikipedia and Google don't know about it. | Mar 07 05:13 |
| gnufreex | And I don't know how to find nenolod | Mar 07 05:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | .... | Mar 07 05:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're fucking me | Mar 07 05:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | oneiric ocelot? | Mar 07 05:14 |
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| *Diablo-D3 blows up shuttlecock | Mar 07 05:14 | |
| Diablo-D3 | this man needs to be stopped | Mar 07 05:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | before he destroys linux any further | Mar 07 05:14 |
| gnufreex | Who? | Mar 07 05:15 |
| gnufreex | YOu don't make any senses | Mar 07 05:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:11:41] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 05:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.45 KB | Mar 07 05:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock | Mar 07 05:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | needs to be stopped | Mar 07 05:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all costs | Mar 07 05:15 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 05:15 |
| gnufreex | Shuttleworthless | Mar 07 05:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock is better | Mar 07 05:16 |
| gnufreex | But it is impolite | Mar 07 05:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock == a tiny little peice of plastic you beat with a racket | Mar 07 05:16 |
| gnufreex | Ahh | Mar 07 05:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/photo/shuttlecock.jpg | Mar 07 05:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 05:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | what a shuttlecock might look like | Mar 07 05:17 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton | Mar 07 05:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Badminton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 141.24 KB | Mar 07 05:17 |
| MinceR | and its arch enemy, Goodminton | Mar 07 05:18 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 05:19 |
| gnufreex | We better think something that is really "impolite" since shuttlecock is politeness zealot. | Mar 07 05:19 |
| -->DaemonFC (~ryan@70.227.165.150) has joined #techrights | Mar 07 05:19 | |
| MinceR | more like politeness hypocrite | Mar 07 05:20 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. | Mar 07 05:20 |
| gnufreex | Saying "Fedora is RHEL's open core" makes him like Bill Gates when said "nobody can improve GPL software". Lying with straight face. | Mar 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Mar 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | I would like to say thats full of shit | Mar 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | Fedora is RHEL without the enterprise support | Mar 07 05:22 |
| gnufreex | so | Mar 07 05:22 |
| gnufreex | ? | Mar 07 05:22 |
| MinceR | no, that's CentOS | Mar 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite | Mar 07 05:22 |
| MinceR | Fedora is the testing to RHEL's stable :> | Mar 07 05:22 |
| gnufreex | Fedoa is oposite of open core | Mar 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets try this a different way | Mar 07 05:23 |
| gnufreex | Rhel is subset of Fedora | Mar 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel isnt closed. | Mar 07 05:23 |
| gnufreex | They take out stuff. | Mar 07 05:23 |
| MinceR | fedora doesn't even have the 'hide your work' policy to kernel patches | Mar 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | open core implies its paired with closed source shit | Mar 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel is open. | Mar 07 05:23 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 That is what I am saying. RHEL is open. Shuttlewroth says it is closed. | Mar 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats irony | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu is closed | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they ship with mono in the default install | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono is closed source | Mar 07 05:24 |
| gnufreex | Mono is bait source | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its closed source. | Mar 07 05:24 |
| MinceR | it's nonfree | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more nonfree than normal nonfree | Mar 07 05:24 |
| gnufreex | If it was closed, we would not have problems | Mar 07 05:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | nonfree stuff usually doesnt get you sued. | Mar 07 05:24 |
| gnufreex | It would be out | Mar 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono WILL get you seud | Mar 07 05:24 |
| gnufreex | I hope Attackmate close it. | Mar 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft can sue you just for _using_ it as an end user | Mar 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is why Java isnt the same thing... | Mar 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant fight Java. | Mar 07 05:25 |
| MinceR | patent lawsuits can apply to the user? | Mar 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java isnt a Sun product | Mar 07 05:25 |
| MinceR | java is an obstacle product | Mar 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a product of the java community | Mar 07 05:25 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 Problem with Mono is that it won't get you sued. It will get you bullied. | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java belongs to Apache, Jboss, and everyone else too | Mar 07 05:26 |
| gnufreex | MSFT has no guts to sue. | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no Mono Community Process | Mar 07 05:26 |
| gnufreex | They want to bully ad infinitum | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why Mono will always be closed source: no one fights for it | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | its patentware, and no one cares | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | Mono is of no value | Mar 07 05:26 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: i think they'll have to back up their threats eventually | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | we already have Java, and it works better; why do we need a slower more bloated clone? | Mar 07 05:26 |
| MinceR | with a lawsuit | Mar 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | and btw, yes, you CAN be sued, as a user | Mar 07 05:27 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it was Not Invented Here, obviously. | Mar 07 05:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft just has to make up shit | Mar 07 05:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | and also, there are no non-MS impls of C# | Mar 07 05:27 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft is like insecure fat kid that bullies everyone. eventually someone kicks his ass and fatso goes crying to momy. | Mar 07 05:27 |
| MinceR | they still infringe | Mar 07 05:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres at least 5 fully functional JVMs out there | Mar 07 05:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | apache harmony and dalvik being two of them | Mar 07 05:28 |
| MinceR | if not core "c#", then the libraries | Mar 07 05:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] thanks to !fsfe's new intern @natalissy "#Democracy requires !freesoftware" now available in Russian http://ur1.ca/3eve9 | Mar 07 05:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Демократия и свободное программное обеспечение .::. Size~: 14.44 KB | Mar 07 05:28 |
| MinceR | google is being sued for dalvik, though | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, using invalid patents | Mar 07 05:28 |
| MinceR | kind of puts a damper on java's openness | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is what I was saying | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is standing up for Mono | Mar 07 05:28 |
| MinceR | it's not as bad as mono, but it's still pretty bad | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | because Mono does, and always will belong to Microsoft | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle == Microsoft | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the same fucking shit | Mar 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | rich people trying to destroy the hard work of others | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java is 10 years of hard work | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | not just by Sun, but by Java coders everywhere | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | when Sun GPL'ed it, that was Sun's promise to everyone that Java will be forever | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant destroy that | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a one way trip | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | patents cant stop Java | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Oracle is the enemy of Java | Mar 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | the moment Sun did that, Sun gave Java to everyone | Mar 07 05:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle is trying to go door to door and barge in and grab it back | Mar 07 05:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is why sw patents need to be wiped out | Mar 07 05:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Classroom: Summary of Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/wnlYM | Mar 07 05:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: Last day of !Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/FKUlz | Mar 07 05:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Summary of Ubuntu Developer Week « Ubuntu Classroom Blog .::. Size~: 29.47 KB | Mar 07 05:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | not because of cases like Mono, but cases like Java | Mar 07 05:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last day of UDW | Daniel Holbach’s blog .::. Size~: 22.11 KB | Mar 07 05:31 |
| MinceR | indeed, it is one of the reasons | Mar 07 05:31 |
| MinceR | but mono is another reason, VFAT is yet another | Mar 07 05:31 |
| MinceR | the MPEG-LA cartel is yet another | Mar 07 05:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 05:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | mpeg-la is fucked | Mar 07 05:32 |
| MinceR | it's not fucked fast enough | Mar 07 05:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | DoJ is thinking about smacking them around a bit and make them their bitch | Mar 07 05:32 |
| MinceR | they're still around and they can still do damage | Mar 07 05:32 |
| MinceR | i doubt that an organ of a bitch of the megacorps owning the cartel can really do that | Mar 07 05:33 |
| gnufreex | Larry horn needs to go to jail | Mar 07 05:33 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple will just tell their puppets what to do to the DoJ | Mar 07 05:33 |
| MinceR | (maybe directly the main puppet, obama) | Mar 07 05:33 |
| gnufreex | I think that every company that passes 50bn in revenue should be split | Mar 07 05:34 |
| gnufreex | Megacorporations make huge problems | Mar 07 05:34 |
| MinceR | they'd just cook the books to make revenue seem smaller | Mar 07 05:34 |
| gnufreex | HP should be split, MS should be split, IBM should be split. No exception | Mar 07 05:34 |
| gnufreex | Or find some other metrics | Mar 07 05:34 |
| MinceR | i think the people should not be prevented from forming armed mobs to kill people like ballmer and larry | Mar 07 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | has anyone seen working Pidgin 2.7.x packages for EL 6? | Mar 07 05:35 |
| *DaemonFC scratches his head | Mar 07 05:35 | |
| gnufreex | Did you look EPEL? | Mar 07 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | EPEL has Pidgin Plugin Pack for Pidgin 2.6.6 | Mar 07 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | which comes with RHEL | Mar 07 05:37 |
| MinceR | what's EL/EPEL? | Mar 07 05:37 |
| *gnufreex don't use RHEL6 yet | Mar 07 05:37 | |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 05:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | the metric is | Mar 07 05:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | is the company actively harming smaller companies | Mar 07 05:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | if so | Mar 07 05:37 |
| gnufreex | Extra packages for Enterprise Linux MinceR | Mar 07 05:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | split | Mar 07 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Enterprise Linux / Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and as much as you guys bitch | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | its rare companies need to be split | Mar 07 05:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] March Newsletter: Facebook failed revolution, legal news, a lot of love, Document Freedom Day and much more! http://link.fsfe.org/BZ6hxl | Mar 07 05:38 | |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 07 05:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSFE Newsletter - March 2011 .::. Size~: 11.89 KB | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | MS shouldnt be split because they ARENT a monopoly | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | on anything | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all | Mar 07 05:38 |
| MinceR | well, m$ doesn't need to be split, it needs to be dissolved | Mar 07 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont sell the most video game machines | Mar 07 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 1, don't use AtRPMS | Mar 07 05:38 |
| MinceR | their assets should be used to offset the damage they've caused | Mar 07 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 2, Use RPM Forge instead :) | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont have the most "normal" computers running their OS | Mar 07 05:39 |
| MinceR | and for the rest of the damage, their upper management should be sent into penal servitude | Mar 07 05:39 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 how come not a monopoly? | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: see above | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft just isnt relevant | Mar 07 05:39 |
| *DaemonFC has AtRPMs there but disabled for a few odd packages | Mar 07 05:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not sure if it ever was | Mar 07 05:39 |
| MinceR | they still keep causing damage | Mar 07 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | it tries to take over your system | Mar 07 05:39 |
| MinceR | remember that mobile phone maker called nokia? | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cause damage, sure | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats about it | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they need to be slammed for that | Mar 07 05:39 |
| MinceR | m$ needs to be dissolved so that they can't keep causing damage | Mar 07 05:39 |
| gnufreex | They have a monopoly on WIndows | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they're not Bell | Mar 07 05:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing TO split | Mar 07 05:40 |
| MinceR | and so that they can't keep corrupting governments | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: windows is just an os | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | most normal computers dont run windows. | Mar 07 05:40 |
| gnufreex | Yes, and some people think Windows is computer | Mar 07 05:40 |
| gnufreex | So Microsoft has monopoly on some people's minds | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | some people think Ford is made in America | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | what do stupid people have to do with this? | Mar 07 05:40 |
| gnufreex | So that is a crime | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the reality is | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is not important | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not have a majority in anything useful | Mar 07 05:40 |
| MinceR | m$ is an important threat | Mar 07 05:40 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft dumbed those people | Mar 07 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no, they were born dumb | Mar 07 05:41 |
| gnufreex | Their propaganda | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont blame Microsoft for making people dumb | Mar 07 05:41 |
| MinceR | and so is crApple | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft only took advantage of it | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Windows in normal computers us probably less than a third. | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | *is | Mar 07 05:41 |
| MinceR | and so is obstacle | Mar 07 05:41 |
| gnufreex | Taking advantage of mentaly retarded is crime | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: now that I agree with | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but these people arent conisidered invalids | Mar 07 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | so theres no way there | Mar 07 05:42 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: depends on who you ask | Mar 07 05:42 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft made them invalid with Windows. | Mar 07 05:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ... | Mar 07 05:42 |
| *Diablo-D3 whacks gnufreex with a bat | Mar 07 05:42 | |
| *gnufreex whacks Diablo back | Mar 07 05:42 | |
| Diablo-D3 | we can have a nice conversation, or we can act like blind FOSS zealots | Mar 07 05:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is no different than any other large company | Mar 07 05:43 |
| gnufreex | sorry, I was just practicing | Mar 07 05:43 |
| MinceR | actually they are | Mar 07 05:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not provide anything of use, they make a lot of money, and they try to abuse the system in their favor. | Mar 07 05:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not a Bell or a Standard Oil | Mar 07 05:43 |
| MinceR | they've abused their monopolies much harder than others and they had monopolies over much more important fields | Mar 07 05:43 |
| gnufreex | Is there a way to set spell checker in Quassell? | Mar 07 05:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not really | Mar 07 05:43 |
| MinceR | computers control most modern technology, m$ nearly gained control of all of that | Mar 07 05:43 |
| gnufreex | I am tired of typos | Mar 07 05:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're _nothing_ compared to other industries | Mar 07 05:43 |
| MinceR | other industries depend on IT | Mar 07 05:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: and, in the end, they didnt. | Mar 07 05:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, most normal computers dont run windows | Mar 07 05:44 |
| MinceR | it was a close shot | Mar 07 05:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | anda ll the not-normal computers? NONE do. | Mar 07 05:44 |
| MinceR | i don't think that humanity should keep risking such things | Mar 07 05:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | does your car run windows? or your microsoft? what about your tv? bluray player? nuclear power plant? | Mar 07 05:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | even your cell phone doesnt. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | imagine what would have happened if they managed to implement and push Palladium like they imagined it | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | some cars do | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | not mine, of course | Mar 07 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car doesnt | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | bmw did put winblows ce on some of their cars | Mar 07 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | some sort of interactive panel device runs a hacked up version of winmo | Mar 07 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and winmo isnt windows | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | that's about as idiotic as it gets when it comes to car design | Mar 07 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | your car doesnt crash because winmo does. | Mar 07 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking car radio | Mar 07 05:45 |
| MinceR | no, it's a lot more than a car radio | Mar 07 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | or a gps device | Mar 07 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt _do_ anything of importants | Mar 07 05:46 |
| MinceR | it takes over a lot of the controls in the car | Mar 07 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really | Mar 07 05:46 |
| MinceR | it controls the heater and the AC, for example | Mar 07 05:47 |
| MinceR | now imagine driving with fully fogged windows | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt | Mar 07 05:47 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem so safe, does it? | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | all it does is pass through the stuff on a dumb serial connection | Mar 07 05:47 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDrive | Mar 07 05:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Mar 07 05:47 |
| MinceR | "allows the driver and front-seat passenger (in recent cars it is available to back-seat passengers as well) to control such amenities as the climate (air conditioner and heater)," | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | and heres the fun part | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive never seen it. | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | ever. | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns bizzaro shit like this | Mar 07 05:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and btw | Mar 07 05:48 |
| MinceR | well, no one i know owns a bmw | Mar 07 05:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | that has to pass the law. | Mar 07 05:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | if theres actually a legitimate issue with it, it would have never been sold | Mar 07 05:48 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: the law doesn't really apply to rich people and companies. | Mar 07 05:48 |
| MinceR | haven't you noticed? | Mar 07 05:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car's computer itself runs normal car software | Mar 07 05:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite. | Mar 07 05:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | because the OTHER companies paid for these laws | Mar 07 05:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | the current state of car laws is to drive foreign manufacturers out of the US | Mar 07 05:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you think the media and the government attacked toyota so hard for a problem that didnt exist | Mar 07 05:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | because they're made in America and the best cars in the world | Mar 07 05:49 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it's usian media and toyota is japanese | Mar 07 05:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: see | Mar 07 05:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the hilarity | Mar 07 05:50 |
| MinceR | yanks were desperate because their two darling car companies were struggling | Mar 07 05:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want American, you buy Toyota. | Mar 07 05:50 |
| MinceR | because they couldn't come up with cars that didn't fucking suck | Mar 07 05:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want Mexican, you buy Ford, Chrysler, or GM | Mar 07 05:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the laws exist to attack foreign car companies | Mar 07 05:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | so yes | Mar 07 05:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | if there was an actual real problem with idrive | Mar 07 05:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wouldnt have been in production | Mar 07 05:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and EU car laws are even worse than US ones | Mar 07 05:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and these giant car panels? | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they may be in violation of the law anyhow | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | even our "domestic" cars | Mar 07 05:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta Fair enough. Not that anyone from that high up in Canonical would talk to me, but I guess you're on record now. | Mar 07 05:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta You gotta understand that it looked a bit suspicious from the outside... | Mar 07 05:53 | |
| Diablo-D3 | so the issue becomes increasingly moot | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | but lets go back to what we were really talking about | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has to _lie_ to appear they have a majority | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | let that sink in a bit | Mar 07 05:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they are LYING about their majority | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the implication is, THEY DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY | Mar 07 05:54 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: you're overlooking that the idrive was a vector to ship usian crap | Mar 07 05:54 |
| MinceR | winblows ce | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the money to be made is in all kinds embedded shit, in enterprise, in shit like that | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft doesnt exist there. | Mar 07 05:54 |
| MinceR | of course they won't pick an issue over that | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure, theres wince/winmo/winphone7 | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | but no one owns shit with that in it | Mar 07 05:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | people run linux and vxworks on shit | Mar 07 05:55 |
| MinceR | i'll go eat lunch because the company network is fucked | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | dvd/bluray players, and mp3 players, and tvs, and cars, and routers, and whatever | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they run linux or vxworks | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | military weapons run vxworks | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | sats run vxworks | Mar 07 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] https://apps.mozillalabs.com/appdir/ | Mar 07 05:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla : App Directory .::. Size~: 2.29 KB | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | cell phones are blackberry or linux or whatever | Mar 07 05:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | game machines, 360 is virtually a failure | Mar 07 05:57 |
| *gnufreex thinks vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 05:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its all wii or DS or ps3 | Mar 07 05:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns a fucking 360 | Mar 07 05:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | in all the things that are important for making money | Mar 07 05:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in none of them | Mar 07 05:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 05:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured Patent Laws Against US Companies | Techdirt .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Mar 07 05:58 |
| gnufreex | vxworks is now owned by Intel, so it is dead | Mar 07 05:58 |
| gnufreex | They will put intelisms | Mar 07 05:58 |
| gnufreex | Make it slow on ARM | Mar 07 05:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Mar 07 05:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter if vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 05:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | the fact is its not microsoft's | Mar 07 05:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kinect Controlled Delta-Robot - http://bit.ly/gGHpxi with a dash of #arduino | Mar 07 06:00 | |
| Diablo-D3 | everytime you see the missile camera plow into a terrorist? microsoft had nothing to do with that. | Mar 07 06:00 |
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| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and btw, vxworks is a _b_illion dollar industry | Mar 07 06:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and even if intel did own it, they are so deep under contract they couldnt touch it | Mar 07 06:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | vxworks is what makes the most mission critical of shit function | Mar 07 06:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh the strong emotion of hate reinforced with passion makes that statement quite biblic :) | Mar 07 06:01 | |
| Diablo-D3 | there are competitors, of course | Mar 07 06:01 |
| gnufreex | Nucleus | Mar 07 06:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but all the competitors arent owned by microsoft either. | Mar 07 06:01 |
| gnufreex | QNX | Mar 07 06:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they dont install QNX on sats and military hardware. | Mar 07 06:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | or nuclear power plants | Mar 07 06:02 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleus_OS | Mar 07 06:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Three announces unlimited data for Pay-As-You-Go customers - http://bit.ly/ed8ytY but unlimited unlimited, or just unlimited? #mobile #data | Mar 07 06:03 | |
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| gnufreex | We need something like that to be FLOSS. | Mar 07 06:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | bleh | Mar 07 06:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | all thats boring shit | Mar 07 06:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | every single thing on that list can be ran with linux | Mar 07 06:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | except that defibrillator at the bottom | Mar 07 06:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd rather that be vxworks | Mar 07 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | The Infineon S-Gold2 baseband chip used in Apple's iPhone[9] | Mar 07 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Mar 07 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: but you're missing the point | Mar 07 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft has no way in. | Mar 07 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | the most lucrative technology markets are extreme computing (military/space/extremely mission critical), high end enterprise, and games. | Mar 07 06:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has nothing for the first two, and the last one they failed twice | Mar 07 06:05 |
| gnufreex | They said that for servers | Mar 07 06:05 |
| gnufreex | And they pushed their incompetentce into servers | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in low end enterprise a tiny bit, but not enough to really bother mentioning | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its almost all linux there | Mar 07 06:06 |
| gnufreex | They have more than 50% servers | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and on home computing on the PCs themselves.... thats about it. | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: nope. | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | not even close. | Mar 07 06:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moving beyond the #Microsoft #monoculture - http://bit.ly/hcL7Nq it's the end of an era - but problems will linger on | Mar 07 06:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Protocols mangling... http://xkcd.com/869/ ;-) | Mar 07 06:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC reportedly secures 1 million orders for HTC Flyer - http://bit.ly/i7P4BJ just the start #android #htc | Mar 07 06:06 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | on any actual enterprise, its hard to find windows. | Mar 07 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its on the sub-enterprise shit windows floats around | Mar 07 06:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | just because you're a company with 20 people and have a LAN box doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 06:07 |
| gnufreex | I am not talking "true scotsmen" enterprise, that is hard to define | Mar 07 06:07 |
| gnufreex | Servefs | Mar 07 06:07 |
| gnufreex | *servers | Mar 07 06:07 |
| gnufreex | they have 50% | Mar 07 06:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | servers makes no sense | Mar 07 06:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | lots of people claim to have servers and dont. | Mar 07 06:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 06:08 | |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, just because you have 20 people and a "server" doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 06:08 |
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| gnufreex | people talked that Windows Server will never sell. And by technical merit, it shouldn't. | Mar 07 06:09 |
| gnufreex | But they made 15bn last year | Mar 07 06:09 |
| gnufreex | from STB division | Mar 07 06:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | which means nothing. | Mar 07 06:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | imagine if Linux wasnt free | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | It means they pushed their Jihad over comon reason. | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | People shouldn't touch their crap | Mar 07 06:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'd be hundreds of billions | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | And they are forced | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | By HP and such | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | and Dell | Mar 07 06:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe trillions | Mar 07 06:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: not true | Mar 07 06:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | Dell and HP both sell Linux on their enterprise shit | Mar 07 06:10 |
| gnufreex | They sell, but they "recomend" windows | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont really recommend anything | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sell computers | Mar 07 06:11 |
| gnufreex | Go on site. | Mar 07 06:11 |
| gnufreex | Big letters | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares about "a site" | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking template | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares | Mar 07 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is buying windows on the server | Mar 07 06:12 |
| gnufreex | "Life without walls - Windows 7" | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | so | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the ONLY place | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the _ONLY_ place | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft ever took off | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | was on the desktop | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | which makes no real money | Mar 07 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have no clue how Microsoft got so big, but it wasnt from selling Windows. | Mar 07 06:12 |
| gnufreex | I tihnk it is stiupidest marketing phrase ever | Mar 07 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | all marketing phrases are stupid | Mar 07 06:13 |
| gnufreex | Where you put Windows 7 if you don't have wall? | Mar 07 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: maybe its some sort of all glass house | Mar 07 06:13 |
| gnufreex | Nobody will put it on computer | Mar 07 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How To Add MinimizeAnd Maximize Buttons Back In Gnome Shell ~ Web Upd8 http://ping.fm/ijUV3 | Mar 07 06:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really wish Facebook and Skype weren't going to work together http://ping.fm/elnsG | Mar 07 06:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I'm guessing you're taking my joke it a bit more seriously than I ever expected. I'm sorry to have irked you :) | Mar 07 06:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh full ack, agree and subscribe. :) Did you ever read asimov's short story Nightfall? Interesting view on religion there :) | Mar 07 06:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh Lighten up :) Everytime you loose the sense of humour a kitten dies! | Mar 07 06:23 | |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: wrt k10 risc, Bul | Mar 07 06:24 |
| gnufreex | bulldozer will have different ISA? | Mar 07 06:24 |
| gnufreex | Internal one that is? | Mar 07 06:24 |
| gnufreex | I think yes | Mar 07 06:24 |
| gnufreex | They won't bother making that work | Mar 07 06:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | no. | Mar 07 06:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Slur “Open Core”: Toward More Diligent Analysis - http://bit.ly/egDdle interesting reflection on a contentious topic #opensource | Mar 07 06:25 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | the radeon cores arent aprt of the cpu core | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're native htx cores in their own right | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | You mean, it will have same RISC instructions as K10 | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it IS a k10. | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | ? | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, maybe a k11 | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: btw | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | Bulldozer is not k10 | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | each one does have slightly different instructions | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | It is completely different | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no | Mar 07 06:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not as different as you think | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | They don't specify RISC instructions, meaning that they won't bother keeping them compatible | Mar 07 06:26 |
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| gnufreex | Nothing runs on that | Mar 07 06:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they're not compatible largely. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | so it is waste of resources to test | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a specification. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | as I said above | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have an op for everything the hw does | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no ops for things the hardware doesnt do. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if they remove something, the op goes | Mar 07 06:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they add something, they add an op | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | Yeah but Buldozer is significant redesign. I think K7 to K10 had pretty same design. | Mar 07 06:28 |
| gnufreex | But bulldozer is way different | Mar 07 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Debian honoured with LNM award for Outstanding Contribution to Free Software http://ping.fm/KKr2o | Mar 07 06:30 | |
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| gnufreex | I know only those things they published on sites, but there is longer pipeline, fused cores.. | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | It is 2 cores like one. | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | They first said it will be posible to gang them | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | like one | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | but they backed away | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | That was pipe dream imho | Mar 07 06:31 |
| gnufreex | But it can still gang together two FPUs | Mar 07 06:31 |
| gnufreex | That is nothing new | Mar 07 06:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon outlines #Android bill of rights - http://bit.ly/gP6xX6 interesting details on how #Google & #Amazon use #DRM in their app stores | Mar 07 06:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Any hardcore plone developers looking for a good job with a cool company in Berne, Switzerland? Let me know. #freesoftware #jobs !gnu !fsfe | Mar 07 06:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who herded the cats? - http://bit.ly/h5Gg4m "the future is catching up with us, and we need to free the thinkers again"; nice piece | Mar 07 06:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I feel that pain too, but sometimes we redirect it against the wrong people. Controlling that is... hard. | Mar 07 06:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 395 has been released. This week's featured distro: #ArchBang !Linux 2011 http://goo.gl/a7JBd | Mar 07 06:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Who herded the cats? | Emma Mulqueeny .::. Size~: 38.27 KB | Mar 07 06:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working to fix mapping on the !LO !Minecraft server... Looking good. | Mar 07 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Computational X - http://bit.ly/hT0H0M "Computational grass mowing...Computational knitting" er, right... | Mar 07 06:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: There will be a live #LinuxOutlaws recording tonight as usual, folks. 19:00 UTC (ish). Be there! | Mar 07 06:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Next after Natty? - http://bit.ly/fJ9Vcs will be...</drumroll> "Oneiric Ocelot". #shuttleworth explains why "oddball octopus" is out #ubuntu | Mar 07 06:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oneiric Ocelot? Are you SERIOUS???? Nobody can even SAY that! The UbuFAIL just gets harder and harder... #ubuntu | Mar 07 06:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Coming soon: Ubuntu Herpderp | Mar 07 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And I thought "Lovelock" was a shit name..... LOL | Mar 07 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh meh I reckon you didn't :) | Mar 07 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Crowdsourced is not #OpenSource - http://bit.ly/dGwMbi "they are very different, most importantly in the ownership of the outcome" | Mar 07 06:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Towards Pirate Parties International Conference - http://bit.ly/hdHI6v a few places left, apparently | Mar 07 06:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ghana Photographer telling Africa's story through his lens: Independence Day Celebration in Pictures http://ping.fm/WTet3 | Mar 07 06:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Has Domination, #Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vapourware #win8 #android | Mar 07 06:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vaporware #windows8 | Mar 07 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #BSA (Microsoft Front), MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds | Mar 07 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BSA, MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds #swpats | Mar 07 06:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving houses. Will be back online ASAP. #Sidenote | Mar 07 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] In case you missed it like I did... Nicely done Free Software advertising video: Linspotting http://vimeo.com/15474925 | Mar 07 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon outlines !Android bill of rights at the Register http://ping.fm/dKKJ1 | Mar 07 07:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! @th3k4ty has teh minecrafts! :D | Mar 07 07:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] You wouldn’t do this to a dog… - http://bit.ly/gURwD9 how not to do simple local government transactions | Mar 07 07:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got two new people on the Minecrafts this weekend. :P | Mar 07 07:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] /simon_creeper_voice That's a very nice everything you have there..... :P | Mar 07 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think #accessibility could B the biggest practical issue 4 Unity, @popey. !Gnome was rlly excellent in that area re: http://bit.ly/fzKHeh | Mar 07 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORG's Hargreaves Review submission - http://bit.ly/eI4n4X NB: plus two more reviews we need to submit sensible ideas to... #copyright | Mar 07 07:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with David Hammerstein on #WIPO treaty for persons who are #blind - http://bit.ly/g1ClEy "#France is the most adamant in opposing" | Mar 07 07:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hacker discovers PS3 3.56 exploit, will not release - scared of Sony? http://ping.fm/Qwa0b | Mar 07 07:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 07:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus. Having to re-render the !LO #Minecraft map because the map format changed. It's taking fucking AGES.... Oo | Mar 07 07:21 | |
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| MinceR | re | Mar 07 07:26 |
| MinceR | 121207 < gnufreex> "Life without walls - Windows 7" | Mar 07 07:28 |
| MinceR | i was just thinking | Mar 07 07:28 |
| MinceR | if they have no walls, what the fuck do they need windows for? | Mar 07 07:28 |
| gnufreex | In world without walls and fences, nobody needs Windows and Gates. | Mar 07 07:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !openSUSE, #Banshee and the root of all evil http://ping.fm/YesHo | Mar 07 07:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Which virtual machine managers are in the !opensuse repos? | Mar 07 07:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Mar 07 07:30 |
| oiaohm | I remember windows 1.0 that had a sanely shape windows picture. | Mar 07 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Future versions had a pciture of a window you would never fit to a house. | Mar 07 07:30 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 07:31 |
| gnufreex | Gates wants to brake your wall | Mar 07 07:31 |
| gnufreex | Here is another interesting thing: | Mar 07 07:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear Google/Youtube, why if I joined the HTML5 you don't use HTML5 as default? #Justasking | Mar 07 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Three good reasons to buy an open-PC - CIO Magazine http://ping.fm/LtZkd | Mar 07 07:31 | |
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| gnufreex | Windows XP had "My Computer" | Mar 07 07:31 |
| gnufreex | Vista had "Computer" | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | and W7 too | Mar 07 07:32 |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63gJdqc4j0 | Mar 07 07:32 |
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| MinceR | there's a winblows window in that one | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | An now they might put "Microsoft computer" (aka cloud) on W8 | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | They are stealing peoples computer | Mar 07 07:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Index on Censorship » Blog Archive » Freedom sacrificed for an easy life, in Apple’s Brave New World http://ping.fm/FuFUB | Mar 07 07:33 | |
| gnufreex | And convincing them that it not their (no My Computer). | Mar 07 07:33 |
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| MinceR | they're climbing your windows | Mar 07 07:34 |
| MinceR | snatching your PCs up | Mar 07 07:34 |
| gnufreex | They steal your hardrive and say: "Go to azure cloud" | Mar 07 07:35 |
| gnufreex | " no need for local storage" | Mar 07 07:35 |
| gnufreex | no, wait, that's google | Mar 07 07:35 |
| MinceR | m$ wants to be google, though | Mar 07 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Digia to acquire #Qt commercial licensing business from #Nokia http://goo.gl/bbOy0 !gnu - via @hup | Mar 07 07:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Next Ubuntu Version Codenamed "Oneiric Ocelot" http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oneiric-ocelot/ | Mar 07 07:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Nokia sold Qt to Digia. What's the next step? | Mar 07 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @popey And I gotta be honest I'm not sure using Psychological terms is a great move (only context I've read it in) | Mar 07 07:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Zoche v Wikipedia jetzt auch beim SPIEGEL im Netzwerkticker - ganz unten: http://ur1.ca/3ewz2 cc @georgzoche @netzpolitik @udovetter | Mar 07 07:45 | |
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| MinceR | looks like Qt is getting into a safer situation then | Mar 07 07:46 |
| gnufreex | who's digia? | Mar 07 07:46 |
| gnufreex | I hope it isn't MSFT Drone | Mar 07 07:46 |
| MinceR | so do i | Mar 07 07:46 |
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| gnufreex | oh crap | Mar 07 07:47 |
| gnufreex | they only sold dual licensing bussines | Mar 07 07:47 |
| gnufreex | they still keep devs | Mar 07 07:47 |
| MinceR | this does mean that another company will at least push them to keep Qt alive and going | Mar 07 07:48 |
| gnufreex | digia will only send sales droids to Qt users to try to collect money. | Mar 07 07:48 |
| MinceR | or not | Mar 07 07:48 |
| MinceR | i guess it's "wait and see" again :> | Mar 07 07:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] At first sight, Digia doesn't look so bad at all: http://goo.gl/i9Tfc | Mar 07 07:50 | |
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| gnufreex | http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/nokia-sells-non-mobile-licensing-ops-to-digia/articleshow/7647386.cms | Mar 07 07:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @toros They only sold non-mobile proprietary licensing business. Development of Qt stays at Nokia. It is not great news. | Mar 07 07:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Firefox 4: Get Tabs In The Title Bar (Like Chrome) http://goo.gl/6g3Hd | Mar 07 08:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I may need a new keyboard soon | Mar 07 08:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Funny. Yet another opening. This time: Capable system administrator with Python skills sought who is willing to work in Zurich. !fsfe !gnu | Mar 07 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Dear Universities, are you listening? Free Software competency is almost a job guarantee these days! | Mar 07 08:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-07: Commitment to Open Rbust reply from Red Hat concerning their decision to stop sharing det... http://wmk.me/g4hSXe | Mar 07 08:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Nokia sells #Qt non-mobile proprietary relicensing to #Digia. Rest of Qt (incl. whole dev team) stays at #Nokia http://ur1.ca/3ex82 | Mar 07 08:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Loving @th3k4ty's #Minecraft dents! :D | Mar 07 08:25 | |
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| GoForbes28 | what is this, techrights without Roy?!! | Mar 07 08:30 |
| gnufreex | GoForbes28 he said yesterday he is bussy... moving | Mar 07 08:31 |
| nisshh | GoForbes28, read his identi.ca he will be back ASAP :) | Mar 07 08:31 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 07 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] *now* im happy with my #.screenrc :) | Mar 07 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Server is rendering the second zoom level for the map now.... Gods, this is slow! !lo | Mar 07 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 08:35 | |
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| GoForbes28 | seriously though, where is roy? I've never seen him completely offline before | Mar 07 08:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nokia sells off commercial and services arm of Qt - http://bit.ly/frBXpt hmmm (v @digitaldownfall) #nokia #qt | Mar 07 08:40 | |
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| nisshh | GoForbes28, read his last dent.... | Mar 07 08:40 |
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| nisshh | o.0 | Mar 07 08:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matt Zimmerman: Listening to users http://goo.gl/w6ICU | Mar 07 08:41 | |
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| oiaohm | Ok QT sold to digia | Mar 07 08:42 |
| gnufreex | Not entire Qt | Mar 07 08:43 |
| gnufreex | just desktop relicensing | Mar 07 08:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenStack Governance Update - http://bit.ly/eZPpQm trying to assuage concerns, maybe... #cloudcomputing #opensource (v @webmink) | Mar 07 08:43 | |
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| gnufreex | The part that never had any meaning for nokia | Mar 07 08:43 |
| gnufreex | and nobody really needs proprietary licenses, since it is LGPL | Mar 07 08:43 |
| MinceR | they might still want support as a service | Mar 07 08:44 |
| gnufreex | Elop could still kill Qt | Mar 07 08:44 |
| oiaohm | http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/07/nokia-and-digia-working-together/ Read more gnufreex | Mar 07 08:44 |
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| MinceR | elop can't kill Qt unless the KDE devs consent to it | Mar 07 08:45 |
| gnufreex | Yeah... I meant damage | Mar 07 08:45 |
| MinceR | and now it seems that killing Qt would also need Digia's consent | Mar 07 08:45 |
| oiaohm | The way this is written sould like trolltech staff are jumping ship. gnufreex | Mar 07 08:45 |
| MinceR | well, elop could FUD Qt | Mar 07 08:45 |
| oiaohm | sould/sounds | Mar 07 08:45 |
| gnufreex | Yeah I read that oiaohm | Mar 07 08:45 |
| gnufreex | I worry that financials warent dislosed | Mar 07 08:46 |
| gnufreex | It means it is peanuts | Mar 07 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU governments could save millions by using #opensource on desktop - http://bit.ly/e2y03b interesting stats in paper (v @kgerloff @ggreve) | Mar 07 08:46 | |
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| gnufreex | hence, it is something irrelevant | Mar 07 08:46 |
| gnufreex | Just misdirection for Elop | Mar 07 08:47 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: Its embeded services as well go to digia | Mar 07 08:47 |
| gnufreex | to say "here, I sold it, so I am not a Trojan" | Mar 07 08:47 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: basically digia will have all the profitable lines of Qt | Mar 07 08:47 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, but they don't have development | Mar 07 08:47 |
| gnufreex | just selling licenses that nobody needs | Mar 07 08:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The FinUSB Suite is a tactical USB device, extracts predefined information from a target PC" - http://bit.ly/hMDqTa nasty (v @dozykraut) | Mar 07 08:48 | |
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| gnufreex | And nokia still has copyright | Mar 07 08:48 |
| gnufreex | Digia just got permision to sell licenses | Mar 07 08:48 |
| gnufreex | Nokia could still sell licenses to undercut them. Unless they agreed that they won't. | Mar 07 08:49 |
| gnufreex | but it doesn't say. | Mar 07 08:49 |
| gnufreex | It is basically nothing | Mar 07 08:49 |
| gnufreex | just to fill the news | Mar 07 08:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Novell Announces Commercially Supported LibreOffice Version http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/novell-commercially-supported-libreoffice/ | Mar 07 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China: #Tibet won't fall apart if Dalai Lama dies - http://bit.ly/hwfeYg i.e. we'll shoot anything that moves | Mar 07 08:50 | |
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| gnufreex | maybe to save them from fork | Mar 07 08:50 |
| gnufreex | to paralyze plans of KDE folks | Mar 07 08:50 |
| gnufreex | if they had plans to fork | Mar 07 08:50 |
| oiaohm | Nokia will keep training. gnufreex | Mar 07 08:52 |
| oiaohm | But the split really puts the KDE guys in the strongest location. | Mar 07 08:52 |
| oiaohm | Because now the QT board could possibly become 1 Nokia 1 Digia and 2 KDE | Mar 07 08:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having leftover pizza... | Mar 07 08:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Such a wonderful day outside. Fucking shame we can't leave the house today. Damn fucking Karneval!!! | Mar 07 08:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Charcoal really makes the starting out in !Minecraft a whole damn of a lot easier.... | Mar 07 08:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Of the community, not above the community | http://bit.ly/ghgBN9 #strategy #selfless #present | Mar 07 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Oil Rush Available for Pre-Oder http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/oil-rush-available-for-pre-order/ | Mar 07 09:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm just learning all kinds of new things today :) | Mar 07 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? http://lwn.net/Articles/431705/rss | Mar 07 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] another promo piece from #BBC begs the question "exactly who does Rory work for? http://tighturl.com/2zms | Mar 07 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rendering Level 4/8..... !LO | Mar 07 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @karsten: European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 09:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Don't enable the Fastbugs repository in Scientific Linux, they don't keep it in sync with the 32-bit libraries and you end up conflicting with their official repositories | Mar 07 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 09:14 |
| *DaemonFC just spent a little while digging out some of those updates with the assistance of yumex and rpm -e --nodeps | Mar 07 09:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] I missed this news. Novell lost $18m in a quarter. http://ur1.ca/3exvy Balmer said no more coupons. | Mar 07 09:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | now of course, had I actually read the documentation before installing this I would know that they recommend not leaving that updates repo enabled, and not using anything from it unless you encounter a bug in a particular package | Mar 07 09:15 |
| *DaemonFC is not known for reading documentation first | Mar 07 09:15 | |
| DaemonFC | No more coupons from SweatyB, just a fire sale from the people who trusted him. | Mar 07 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems german company Gamma/Elaman sold some nasty spy SW to #Egyp SS - PDF here http://ur1.ca/3exwu via Heise [german] http://ur1.ca/3exwv | Mar 07 09:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, SweatyB will give you a 10% discount on Windows if you agree to buy >1000 site licenses | Mar 07 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | what say you? :) | Mar 07 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | the fastest way to get a concession from Microsoft is to say you're considering Linux | Mar 07 09:19 |
| gnufreex | This is first loss for Novell I know of. They were declining, but had no losses. | Mar 07 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nokia sells its Qt licensing business to Digia http://lwn.net/Articles/431708/rss | Mar 07 09:20 | |
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| gnufreex | Now they are in heavy losses. | Mar 07 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | the Marion, Indiana public library uses Red Hat, Microsoft couldn't go low enough to get their business | Mar 07 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | the library actually told them that paying people to support Windows and extra systems to run it would cost them more than using Red Hat even if Windows was free | Mar 07 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | I got a kick out of that | Mar 07 09:20 |
| gnufreex | If sale to Attackmate fails, Novell is going bankrupt fast. | Mar 07 09:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i say he already knows where he can put those licenses :> | Mar 07 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 09:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, They have the systems set up so that it's one tower with 10 GPUs covers 10 workstations | Mar 07 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | three towers, 30 workstations :) | Mar 07 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was neat, I even got to use Pidgin :) | Mar 07 09:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] More #elopcalypse ♺ @lxnews: Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] TechCrunch comments now clipped thanks to Facebook presence: (Steve's Blog): http://bit.ly/gBliEO | Mar 07 09:25 | |
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| oiaohm | gnufreex: funny enough Novell Linux departments are about the only parts growing. | Mar 07 09:25 |
| gnufreex | I hope attackmate buy fails and Red Hat buys them | Mar 07 09:26 |
| gnufreex | then they could do asset striping and even earn some cash. | Mar 07 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @sparks: "I need to upgrade my laptop from !Ubuntu to !Fedora today." #overheardinmyoffice < *EvilGrin* | Mar 07 09:26 | |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 6 is a lot nicer than Debian 6 | Mar 07 09:28 |
| *DaemonFC was having severe kernel latency issues with Debian's stock kernel for one | Mar 07 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Rob Pegoraro - How to decipher tech rumors, the nerd equivalent of celebrity gossip http://wapo.st/f0T179 | Mar 07 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @osamak RT @freedomboxfndn Eben Moglen explains the !FreedomBox on CBS Evening News (flash req'd): http://ur1.ca/3exvq or donwload it... | Mar 07 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I'm taking Ars Technica off my RSS reader because they advertise for #Microsoft products too much | Mar 07 09:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | SL 6 feels like Fedora without the bugs | Mar 07 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | everything that works right in Fedora is obviously hand picked for RHEL | Mar 07 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat changes kernel source distribution in response to Oracle (H): http://bit.ly/egP4Oc | Mar 07 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #GlennBeck 's syndicator runs a astroturf-on-demand call-in service for radio programs http://ur1.ca/3ey2u | Mar 07 09:31 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly Fedora is a testing distrobution. Any distribution worse than fedora should be put down. | Mar 07 09:34 |
| oiaohm | Hello the keynote that was against the lca2011 rules have been released. http://linuxconfau.blip.tv/file/4851926/ | Mar 07 09:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bradley Manning Facing Death Charges, Forced to Be Naked Daily http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/bradley-manning-facing-death-charges/ | Mar 07 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat: 'Yes, we undercut Oracle with hidden Linux patches' • Channel Register http://bit.ly/fli0Uc | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I have had it up to here with Perl and Mysql man pages, mailing lists and forums today! | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] That Was Quick: Nokia Sells Qt Commercial To Digia: Following the announcement less than a month ago that Nokia ... http://bit.ly/hIxFUn | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @TauxFu: Hacked e-mails show Web's usefulness in dirty-tricks campaigns http://wapo.st/fx0iQl #Wikileaks #HBGary #COC | Mar 07 09:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] German gov't signs new contract w/ Microsoft http://ur1.ca/3ey5i Anyone have call for tender, copy of contract? #procurement #fail | Mar 07 09:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Ampersands - http://bit.ly/fc8nRE no, really (v @kirstinbutler @michael_nielsen) #webfont #ampersand | Mar 07 09:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, This has been driving me nuts | Mar 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | where would I go to get a new Pidgin and Rhythmbox if that's possible? | Mar 07 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner ♻ @reiter: @mirkoboehm on #qt, #kde : http://ping.fm/1EaS7. His conclusion: This is a political issue [..]That is why I wi ... | Mar 07 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Microsoft preparing mysterious announcement - Beware the Ideas of March http://bit.ly/gUJVWO #software | Mar 07 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM fires back at Oracle in middleware fray (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/ekaKP3 | Mar 07 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Anthony Rota was lobbied by BELL CANADA on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/dGN6RR | Mar 07 09:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | Pidgin obviously never changes all that much, but the new plug-in pack refuses to work with Pidgin 2.6.6 mostly | Mar 07 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @amandapalmer: SOMEONE made very realistic vagina-themed cupcakes for my going-away melbourne dinner. #hot http://twitpic.com/473c1q | Mar 07 09:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat Defends Kernel Code Obfuscation | ITworld http://bit.ly/focgbn | Mar 07 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Eighty years ago my father was born. Left us too early. Ciao papà :'-) | Mar 07 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Humble Bundle Creator Says Linux Matters http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/humble-bundle-creator-says-linux-matters/ | Mar 07 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonymousIRC: RT @OpPinkPower: #OpPinkPower launches March 8, International Women's Day #Anonymiss #Anonymous http://bit.ly/gb9HZz | Mar 07 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @oliviachow: Guess who has the worst voting attendance of all MPs in the House of Commons? Missing 59% of votes: http://bit.ly/gZMFaQ #fb | Mar 07 09:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Nokia Sells Off Parts of Qt http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/nokia-sells-off-parts-of-qt/ | Mar 07 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: I will be attending a funeral today. The wife of former Parry Sound MPP Lorne Maeck, Ivy Maeck, passed away. | Mar 07 09:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Humble Bundle Creator Says Linux Matters http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/humble-bundle-creator-says-linux-matters/ | Mar 07 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Samsung announces the portrait QWERTY Galaxy Pro http://goo.gl/hwEo8 !android | Mar 07 10:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Novell Announces Commercially Supported LibreOffice Version http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/novell-commercially-supported-libreo ... | Mar 07 10:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Interesting day. Last week Libs attacked me 4 announcing policy on Twitter. This week they say I don't have policy... | Mar 07 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @lxnews: Bradley Manning Facing Death Charges, Forced to Be Naked Daily http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/bradley-manning-facing-death-charges/ | Mar 07 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Liberal critic also cribs from my remarks at Committee on #UBB, claims as his own & says I'm not doing anything! #cheeky | Mar 07 10:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Islam and science: cowed Muslim physicist cancels lecture on evolution: http://t.co/79WSNX0 | Mar 07 10:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | I love that the HPLIP build instructions have it spew crap all over your machine | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | all I really need are the CUPS drivers | Mar 07 10:05 |
| *DaemonFC tweaks this a bit :) | Mar 07 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Phil Collins retirement coverage distorted. http://www.philcollins.co.uk/news/breaking-news-message-phil | Mar 07 10:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | System Config Printer is good enough that as long as you have a CUPS driver, all you have to do is turn the printer on | Mar 07 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | their stupid documentation for HPLIP adds 4 MB to the build :) | Mar 07 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | also, I don't have a fax machine | Mar 07 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | and I won't be using it over a network :) | Mar 07 10:08 |
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| GoForbes28 | so gfx, what exactly does the QT "proprietary side" sale mean in terms of negative consequences? | Mar 07 10:22 |
| gnufreex | As it stands, it means nothing | Mar 07 10:22 |
| gnufreex | They just get to resell proprietary licenses to those who want them | Mar 07 10:22 |
| GoForbes28 | Then why is it bad news as you indicated? | Mar 07 10:22 |
| gnufreex | Bad news is that Elop still has Qt | Mar 07 10:23 |
| gnufreex | Nothing changed | Mar 07 10:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Ah, that's why | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with selling proprietary licenses for QT | Mar 07 10:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Still, if they sell it, the company that gets the development "rights" may not be much better | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's not going to lead to a fork, it just means that outfit can use QT without GPL-ing their product | Mar 07 10:23 |
| gnufreex | That is problem too. | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | Opera was using QT for a while like that | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | look at it this way, it funds the salaries of a lot of QT developers at Nokia | Mar 07 10:24 |
| MinceR | they can use Qt without GPL-ing their product anyway | Mar 07 10:24 |
| MinceR | Qt is licensed under LGPL, remember? | Mar 07 10:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Yes | Mar 07 10:24 |
| gnufreex | Qt is LGPL | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Mar 07 10:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Like Wine | Mar 07 10:24 |
| gnufreex | Yes | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | why was Opera using it under a GPL opt-out? | Mar 07 10:24 |
| gnufreex | Not even proprietary companies need license | Mar 07 10:24 |
| gnufreex | They can use LGPL | Mar 07 10:24 |
| MinceR | i see two points to commercial licensing: paid support and the ability to modify Qt without having to include its source code | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | Maybe they want to link statically | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | For convinience | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the LGPL relicensing is recent | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | also that | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | they were linking statically when they used it | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | it happened not long after nokia bought trolltech | Mar 07 10:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Opera now uses GTK, but that isn't LGPL is it? | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's the only way to get consistency or to even guarantee that it will be there | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | you can statically link LGPL from nonfree code, you just need to include object files of your stuff | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | so that the user can relink | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | If they want to link statically, then they must LGPL their stuff or get a prop license | Mar 07 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | not all distros have QT libraries (a few don't) and the ones that do can modify it in such a way that it would cause bugs in Opera | Mar 07 10:26 |
| MinceR | maybe not even that is required, i'm not sure | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | They might link dynamically or use inheritance | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | then they don't need license | Mar 07 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | Opera just avoids the problem entirely now and uses its own toolkit | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | and mimics the desktop environment the user is running it in | Mar 07 10:27 |
| GoForbes28 | They are using GTK for GNOME, no? | Mar 07 10:27 |
| GoForbes28 | I meant Opera is | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | no, it just looks like GTK when you run it in GNOME | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually not | Mar 07 10:27 |
| gnufreex | Here is what PJ says on Qt sale | Mar 07 10:28 |
| gnufreex | [PJ: Remember SCO telling the court that in SCO v. Novell that no one ever sells a business without the copyrights? Heh heh. It seems it does happen, eh?] | Mar 07 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | they have three interfaces it can mimic, GTK+, KDE, and generic QT | Mar 07 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | Generic QT is what it falls back to if it can't tell what you're using | Mar 07 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | and in that case, it also falls back to it's built-in file selector | Mar 07 10:28 |
| gnufreex | Problem with this sale is that Elop gets time window he needs | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | you can force it to do this by telling it to use File Selector #4 | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:29 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: gotcha | Mar 07 10:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Opera's kind of an enigma | Mar 07 10:29 |
| gnufreex | He gets to sell those symbian phones | Mar 07 10:29 |
| GoForbes28 | on the one hand, they are proprietary | Mar 07 10:29 |
| gnufreex | And then he don't need Qt anymore | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | QT is 1, GTK+ is 2, KDE is 3 | Mar 07 10:29 |
| GoForbes28 | but on the other, they fight hard for Free standards | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | anything else is as if you selected QT | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason 1 sometimes goes and uses KDE anyway | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | but 4 doesn't | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's nice that it blends in so well though | Mar 07 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome and Firefox insist on looking GTK-ish even under KDE, and using GTK file selector dialogs with mandatory double click | Mar 07 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of a wart when your whole desktop works one way except for one program | Mar 07 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Grölende Jugendliche..... :/ | Mar 07 10:31 | |
| gnufreex | I hate single click in KDE | Mar 07 10:32 |
| gnufreex | First thing I change | Mar 07 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | Opera inherits double click in KDE mimic mode if you select global double click in KDE control panel | Mar 07 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | I was the one that files the bug on that :) | Mar 07 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | *filed | Mar 07 10:32 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex: Someone was using too much Windows 98 | Mar 07 10:32 |
| gnufreex | I used too much gnome | Mar 07 10:32 |
| GoForbes28 | No, I meant the KDE developers | Mar 07 10:33 |
| gnufreex | I think Windows 98 has double click | Mar 07 10:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows 98, AFAIK, was the first "OS" to use the single click B.S | Mar 07 10:33 |
| GoForbes28 | As part of the "web integration" | Mar 07 10:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Though I don't think it was enabled by default | Mar 07 10:33 |
| gnufreex | Ah | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | Opera does not work on Windows 98 natively since version 9.62 | Mar 07 10:34 |
| gnufreex | I am sure it was not enable | Mar 07 10:34 |
| gnufreex | d | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | but 10 and 11 work if you have KernelEx | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | obviously that's not supported | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | could eat babies | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell are you doing on Windows 98? | Mar 07 10:34 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex: Who wants to know? | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | yada yada... | Mar 07 10:34 |
| MinceR | eating babies. | Mar 07 10:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows 98 is just 95 with crap built on | Mar 07 10:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Pretty much like every Microsoft operating system since then | Mar 07 10:35 |
| gnufreex | must go | Mar 07 10:35 |
| GoForbes28 | It's a dump, growing since '93 | Mar 07 10:35 |
| gnufreex | brb | Mar 07 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 = Windows 95 OSR 2.1 with IE 4 welded on, and that will be another $99 thanks much | Mar 07 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | IE 4 was actually the most expensive web browser ever sold if you think about it that way | Mar 07 10:36 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 10:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ich HASSE Karneval! !Bonn | Mar 07 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: http://imgur.com/wYfOM.jpg That's pretty cheap, considering the rarity. #minecraft | Mar 07 10:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 10:36 |
| GoForbes28 | especially since it requires a Windows liscense to run "legally" | Mar 07 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | I avoided Windows 98 like a plague, I kept my 95 OSR 2.1 disc near and dear | Mar 07 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | used that more or less all the time until 2000 came out | Mar 07 10:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 10:37 |
| MinceR | OSR2, aka 'nuke your system if you boot DOS' | Mar 07 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | OSR 2.1 added FAT32 and USB support, Microsoft never sold it retail | Mar 07 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing 98 had extra was IE 4 | Mar 07 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | they used Windows 95's 2 GB partition limit to force upgrades | Mar 07 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | the retail Windows 95 that is | Mar 07 10:38 |
| MinceR | did you miss IE3? :> | Mar 07 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | 95 OSR 2.1 actually supported volumes up to 64 GB | Mar 07 10:39 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: HAHAHHAHAHA!!! | Mar 07 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | not a limit of FAT32, a limitation of the format utility | Mar 07 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:39 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 10:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows98 FDISK | Mar 07 10:39 |
| GoForbes28 | vs Windows95 fdisk | Mar 07 10:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Great! Just lost the colour red from my graphics card pffft! Today just gets better. :( | Mar 07 10:40 | |
| DaemonFC | yes, I ended up taking the format and fdisk utilities from a Windows 98 disk to get Windows 95 onto an 80 GB hard disk in one partition | Mar 07 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:40 |
| GoForbes28 | Ain't proprietary software "magical"? | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | they sent me a free copy of Windows Me, and I took the Defrag.exe from it | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | 4 years of Drive Contents Changed....restarting was enough :) | Mar 07 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Seems the @markshuttlecock @jonabacon @miguelmicasa gang is quite quiet nowadays ;-) | Mar 07 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Installing Fedora 14 Xfce on the netbook to get streaming working for !LO live later..... | Mar 07 10:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | I assumed that you threw that copy out the windows shortly thereafter? | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | defrag was the only thing in Windows Me that had improved | Mar 07 10:42 |
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| DaemonFC | I took the upgrade and applied it to Windows 95, all 1 MB of it | Mar 07 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:42 |
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| GoForbes28 | wow, how many millions in development costs, for 1mb of improvements | Mar 07 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, When I do use Windows it tends to be a version almost nobody else has | Mar 07 10:43 |
| GoForbes28 | 96? | Mar 07 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | just because they do tailor it for corner cases with a lot of money and it falls into my hands via MSDN or Technet :) | Mar 07 10:43 |
| GoForbes28 | betas? | Mar 07 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | I have every version of Windows since 1.0 | Mar 07 10:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Wow | Mar 07 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | some on official media, some from ISO's from Microsoft | Mar 07 10:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Retaining value: 6 dollars | Mar 07 10:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Let's call that #JITI - Just In Time Install ;-) | Mar 07 10:45 | |
| DaemonFC | My "favorite", if one can measure these things, was Windows XP x64 Edition | Mar 07 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | most people hated it but I had drivers for all my stuff | Mar 07 10:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Why was that your favourite? | Mar 07 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | it was fairly fast | Mar 07 10:45 |
| MinceR | because it has the lowest chance of supporting any piece of hw | Mar 07 10:46 |
| MinceR | but he got lucky ;) | Mar 07 10:46 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | Mar 07 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | I swiped some Windows Vista drivers to use on it | Mar 07 10:46 |
| GoForbes28 | now 64bit Windows is bloated and slow, in other words now 100% consistent | Mar 07 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | on my Core 2 Duo box | Mar 07 10:46 |
| MinceR | at some point it wasn't? | Mar 07 10:46 |
| GoForbes28 | good point | Mar 07 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's "professional" edition is almost never as saddled with crap and slow as the consumer versions | Mar 07 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | of course it costs 2-10 times as much :D | Mar 07 10:47 |
| GoForbes28 | well they solved that problem with Windows 7 | Mar 07 10:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Now all versions are equally bloated | Mar 07 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | XP x64 reports itself as Windows NT 5.2 | Mar 07 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | XP was 5.1 | Mar 07 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | the core OS binaries match up to Windows 2003 Server | Mar 07 10:48 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 07 10:48 |
| GoForbes28 | it's windows 2003 with a different name | Mar 07 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | oddly enough this Microsoft keyboard and mouse work just dandy | Mar 07 10:49 |
| GoForbes28 | curious, do all Vista drivers work with XP 64-bit? | Mar 07 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel log even mentions them by name and model numbers | Mar 07 10:49 |
| GoForbes28 | and why is that odd? | Mar 07 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @markshuttlecock Here at Canonicalifornia we have a release party. Every night. | Mar 07 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @markshuttlecock: @jwildeboer @jargon I've been scrollitizing the scrollbar. | Mar 07 10:50 | |
| DaemonFC | meh | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | the m$ mouse around here likes to randomly scroll | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | so i switched back to the dHell one | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | which tracks inaccurately | Mar 07 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, Any driver that is WDM compliant should, with exceptions to network drivers if they use NDIS 6, and video drivers that use WDDM | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | but it's adequate for work :> | Mar 07 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of "Vista" network drivers were actually NDIS 5.1 and work fine in XP | Mar 07 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | especially the early ones | Mar 07 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia and ATI still support Windows XP x64's WDM display driver model | Mar 07 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Every day my desire to pelt the offices of LinkedIn with cans of spam gets harder to resist. #imnotaviolentpersonbut | Mar 07 10:51 | |
| DaemonFC | so video is not an issue | Mar 07 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | you're most likely looking at problems with webcams, (though you can tell it it is a scanner sometimes) | Mar 07 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | MTP-based MP3 players (put it in MSC mode and tell Windows it's an external hard drive) | Mar 07 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | and printers :) | Mar 07 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh, printers, evil printers | Mar 07 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | it works or it doesn't | Mar 07 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There is no spoon, it is a chicken, moooo | Mar 07 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 10:53 |
| GoForbes28 | heh | Mar 07 10:54 |
| GoForbes28 | enough Windows for now | Mar 07 10:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | I'm torn between Debian and Fedora | Mar 07 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | jono works hard every day to preach the merits of Windows | Mar 07 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | Windows isn't brown, purple, or orange | Mar 07 10:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 07 10:55 |
| jono | hey DaemonFC | Mar 07 10:55 |
| jono | hows things? | Mar 07 10:55 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: have you tried both already? | Mar 07 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | it is not an animal nor an adjective | Mar 07 10:55 |
| GoForbes28 | jono is a Windows nut? | Mar 07 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | [ryan@ryan-desktop ~]$ uname -a | Mar 07 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | Linux ryan-desktop 2.6.32-71.18.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 24 10:58:03 CST 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | Mar 07 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:56 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: duh | Mar 07 10:56 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: he advertises vista7 in his free time. | Mar 07 10:56 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I'm tired, give me a break | Mar 07 10:56 |
| MinceR | Windows™ 7 - Life Without Clue. | Mar 07 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a PC, and it burns when I pee. | Mar 07 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 07 10:57 |
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| GoForbes28 | Maybe he could advertise how the HKCR registry permissions get wiped for no reason | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: winblows infections are a bitch. | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: he won't get free licenses for that | Mar 07 10:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Thus, laying a nice foundation for future registry damage | Mar 07 10:57 |
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| GoForbes28 | My brother is switching to Ubuntu | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, I miss IRIX | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | jono, you guys should be more like IRIX | Mar 07 10:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Irix, really? | Mar 07 10:58 |
| MinceR | dead? | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, sadly | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, You should see Quake III Arena on IRIX | Mar 07 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 10:59 |
| GoForbes28 | I knew you could run BZFlag on Irix, which is the first I heard of it | Mar 07 10:59 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I have tried Debian, but not Fedora | Mar 07 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | BZFlag runs on anything with OpenGL | Mar 07 11:00 |
| *DaemonFC smacks Diablo-D3 with Hover.exe | Mar 07 11:00 | |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: then i reckon trying fedora (maybe in a VM) would help you decide :) | Mar 07 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 11:00 |
| GoForbes28 | Hence why it is so awesome | Mar 07 11:00 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm going for stablity and reliability mind you | Mar 07 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Hover.exe works in Wine | Mar 07 11:01 |
| MinceR | i think debian targets those more than fedora | Mar 07 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | I dug out my Windows 95 disc one day to see if it would | Mar 07 11:01 |
| GoForbes28 | except Debian's older kernel doesn't seem to support the Intel GMA HD | Mar 07 11:01 |
| GoForbes28 | it's vague what kernels support this graphics architecture | Mar 07 11:01 |
| MinceR | you could upgrade the kernel | Mar 07 11:02 |
| GoForbes28 | true | Mar 07 11:02 |
| MinceR | even build your own | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | or build your own | Mar 07 11:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | Debian's kernel always sucks anyway | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 11:02 |
| GoForbes28 | but it is blob-free | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Mar 07 11:02 |
| GoForbes28 | I like the concept | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | so do I as long as it's not a blob I need | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | they can keep the rest | Mar 07 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Lodahl @Mark_Antony 20% of Danish public authorities use #opensource office suite http://tinyurl.com/6h6dxhp #opensource other big nos. | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ayatana Overlay Scrollbars http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/ayatana-overlay-scrollbars/ | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| GoForbes28 | Plus, my laptop seems to not require blobs AFAIK | Mar 07 11:03 |
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| GoForbes28 | atheros wireless card | Mar 07 11:03 |
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| GoForbes28 | JMicron ethernet? | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | my NIC operates as 100 Mbit without the blob but is 1 Gbit with blob | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | my ralink wifi doesn't work without blob | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | and without blob, my radeonhd cards are framebuffer devices | Mar 07 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 11:04 |
| GoForbes28 | That's why I got the Intel GMA HD | Mar 07 11:05 |
| GoForbes28 | besides, it works surprisingly well | Mar 07 11:05 |
| GoForbes28 | a 2008 FPS runs great | Mar 07 11:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Interesting: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5669/196/ | Mar 07 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Mar 07 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Redoing the !LO #Minecraft server map generation. *sigh* | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu 11.10 Is Called The "Oneiric Ocelot": While Fedora 16 might be codenamed Bacon, Mark Shuttleworth has ann... http://bit.ly/eaEKp0 | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think @th3k4ty is really digging #Minecraft. :D | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @ElizabethMay: Change the channel on attack ads http://green.ca/lGp Please RT! #GPC #cdnpoli | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Liberal #UBB petition raises specter of "congestion tolls". I still see no evidence of a need for this. How do you feel? | Mar 07 11:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] If election law was treated like copyright law http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/5290 | Mar 07 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] LibreOffice Conference Announced http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/libreoffice-conference-announced/ | Mar 07 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Americas) Peter Kent was lobbied by Canadian Labour Congress on Jan. 13 http://bit.ly/gpo0sF | Mar 07 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? http://lwn.net/Articles/431705/rss | Mar 07 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shuttleworth: Next after Natty? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.89 KB | Mar 07 11:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Mumbai suburban railway. What's there (not) to like ? ;) | Mar 07 11:16 | |
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| GoForbes28 | gotta a test to do | Mar 07 11:17 |
| GoForbes28 | bbl | Mar 07 11:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidc "Oneiric ocelot" is trending on Twitter =) !u | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identica | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] boingboing: "Canadian MP who shills for the record industry is an enthusiastic pirate" http://ur1.ca/3ez7m !copyright #cdnpoli | Mar 07 11:23 | |
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| *gnufreex is back | Mar 07 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @mdz #Nokia sells #Qt business to Digia - http://bit.ly/enbO0o | Mar 07 11:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers "How Facebook is Killing Your Authenticity" - http://ur1.ca/3ez0n #usegnusocialinstead | Mar 07 11:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | I might just stay on EL | Mar 07 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's very solid | Mar 07 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | (I haven't managed to crash it yet) :) | Mar 07 11:26 |
| gnufreex | I tried RHEL beta 6 | Mar 07 11:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers "Nintendo reserves the right to brick your 3DS" - http://ur1.ca/3eyyr #defectivebydesign | Mar 07 11:26 | |
| gnufreex | *RHel 6 beta | Mar 07 11:26 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm using Scientific Linux 6 | Mar 07 11:26 |
| gnufreex | It is good | Mar 07 11:26 |
| gnufreex | No, I didn't do it on desktop | Mar 07 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to say yes | Mar 07 11:27 |
| gnufreex | On server at work | Mar 07 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | it makes a nice desktop so far | Mar 07 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | I have had to build a few things or swipe from Fedora :) | Mar 07 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | but overall it's good | Mar 07 11:27 |
| gnufreex | Complete move to RHEL 6 will be in few months | Mar 07 11:27 |
| Yownanymous | Well I'd love to stay and see more of your excellent prepared and biased propaganda, but my bullshit alarm is winding up. So good day gentlemen. | Mar 07 11:27 |
| gnufreex | at work | Mar 07 11:27 |
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| gnufreex | who is that dick? | Mar 07 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's a rhelatively good distro :) | Mar 07 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | he's from Linsux | Mar 07 11:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.1.30 is released: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02130-released | Mar 07 11:30 | |
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| gnufreex | Strange, I usually always recognise all their nicks | Mar 07 11:30 |
| gnufreex | but I don't know this one | Mar 07 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia's Not-so-cute #Qt Move - http://bit.ly/iccnyQ time to dig out that #fork from the back of the drawer? #opensource | Mar 07 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Liberal MP Dan McTeague: Repeat Copyright Infringer? - http://bit.ly/f5TR4M why are fair use enemies often the copyright hypocrites? | Mar 07 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Upstart 1.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/upstart-1-0-released/ | Mar 07 11:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | looks like I'll build Transmission 2.13 | Mar 07 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's the newest I can go with the libevent library I have :) | Mar 07 11:37 |
| MinceR | Glyn Moody has a good point there | Mar 07 11:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #Nokia's Not-so-cute #Qt Move - http://bit.ly/iccnyQ time to dig out that #fork from the back of the drawer? #opensource | Mar 07 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @support !sr fixiebike ID 393695 4 avg blatant group spam, please kill immediately! | Mar 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Liberal MP Dan McTeague: Repeat Copyright Infringer? - http://bit.ly/f5TR4M why are fair use enemies often the copyright h ... | Mar 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Google Implements API to Combat Fragmentation http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/google-api-to-combat-fragmentation/ | Mar 07 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Lybia: Ghaddafi has not used a nuke, does not own a nuke, and has never been near a nuke, but I link to this anyhow http://ur1.ca/3ezg2 | Mar 07 11:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Breaktime over... I must get !mynovel done today so back to the word mines... enjoy your #cupoftea @kevie, & watch those spirits @maloki :) | Mar 07 11:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Build Mac client: no | Mar 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | not even for MinceR | Mar 07 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | it built, it works | Mar 07 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | cool B-) | Mar 07 11:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mathewi @leetrout: Just as darkness is the absence of light Charlie Sheen is the absence of Chuck Norris >>oooh, deep... | Mar 07 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google.com occasionally redirecting (http 302) to www.google.com.hk? | Mar 07 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 8gb #Sanza Clip+ for £40 new from #Amazon? http://tighturl.com/2zn9 that must be a good deal | Mar 07 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] EFF Sends Letter to Sony in Defense of Hackers http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/eff-letter-in-defense-of-hackers/ | Mar 07 11:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the 2gb Sanza Clip+ is like £35 | Mar 07 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PORRA!!! Recuperar a treta da senha para o IRS é um filme!!! Sei lá qual foi a resposta à pergunta?!! | Mar 07 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Parece que tem de se enviar mail a cancelar a actual e registar novamente após eles enviarem mail.... senhas@dgci.min-financas.pt | Mar 07 11:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 2.6.38 (Part 5) - #Architecture, #infrastructure and #virtualisation http://h-online.com/-1202216 #scheduler #thp #acpi #security | Mar 07 11:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] more "cyberdefence" nonsense, this time in #France - http://bit.ly/fCUkPP dumping #Windows would be more efficacious & cheaper (v @manhack) | Mar 07 11:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] that'd be a funny idea for a site, the RSPTB one, with a whole charter of rights to Tea biccies, welcoming non-Tea biccy members etc | Mar 07 11:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Scientific Linux 6.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/scientific-linux-6-0-released/ | Mar 07 12:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working hard on notes for tonight's !LO. | Mar 07 12:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released .::. Size~: 27.38 KB | Mar 07 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Triaging !koffice bugs, seems like it hasn't been done in 5 or more years... !kde | Mar 07 12:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] RT @DirDigEng @bethnoveck Finland commits in principle to make public data available #opendata #gov20 http://bit.ly/egUPEE | Mar 07 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French Court Tosses Ridiculous Criminal Complaint By Israeli Against An American Over Book Review By A German - http://bit.ly/hDePfu phew | Mar 07 12:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @phylogenomics Come on #Nature - how hard is it to fix promised free access for #genome papers? #FreeThePapers #fb http://ff.im/-zma92 | Mar 07 12:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] DataStore – an abstraction layer for storing data and processing requests http://bit.ly/eSBjwB | Mar 07 12:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @AndyPPUK @the_MPA asks 'who would invest in an industry that competes with free?' in #Hargreaves submission. Ever heard of bottled H2O? | Mar 07 12:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The DoJ is Looking into Anti-WebM Moves by MPEG LA http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/doj-anti-webm-by-mpeg-la/ | Mar 07 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I have a feeling that today's !lo will be on time and there will be absolutely no delays whatsoever | Mar 07 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] is anything - like new uploads - happening in the Sid repo right now, !Debian? getting annoying "hash mismatch" errors | Mar 07 12:23 | |
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| gnufreex | Every shuttlewroth's explanation for name of new release leaves me wtf. | Mar 07 12:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] Interesting short article: Why !Linux is the most important software project in history: http://is.gd/udUDzC | Mar 07 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I doubt it. I already am quite behind with everything. CC @methoddan | Mar 07 12:25 | |
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| gnufreex | Oneiric Ocelot is double wtf | Mar 07 12:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh yea, well tell that to the guy who has a dentist appointment at the same time as the show. Oh, you just did. #pain | Mar 07 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Wearing blown-out old sneakers because my current pair is wet. Sort of nostalgic for the good times these Adidas and I had. #sniff | Mar 07 12:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Condemned to Joy - http://bit.ly/h1B4DF "we are probably the first society in history to make people unhappy for not being happy" (v @gnat) | Mar 07 12:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "I think [CC] encourages people with ideas to flourish" - @badpandarecords' mon music + interview w/The Echelon Effect: http://bit.ly/dRVP4B | Mar 07 12:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The DPL on the Influence of Debian http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/influence-of-debian/ | Mar 07 12:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @lxnews The DPL on the Influence of Debian http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/influence-of-debian/ | Mar 07 12:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun The !LinuxOutlaws live recording will probably start a bit later today, we still have stuff to prepare. We'll be in the IRC f ... | Mar 07 12:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel Sandy Bridge VA-API Performance: There have been a number of Intel Sandy Bridge articles on Phoronix since... http://bit.ly/hjpZ0R | Mar 07 12:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 4.6 Is Only Four Bugs Away From An RC: While it's taken a while to clear out the most prominent bugs/regress... http://bit.ly/gw6b5T | Mar 07 12:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @iurie: Eben Moglen explains the #FreedomBox on CBS Evening News - http://videobin.org/v/4/44z.ogg | Mar 07 12:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @zittrain @scottros US Supreme Court will hear Golan case, challenging return public domain materials to (c) http://bit.ly/gIH6Ly >>fab | Mar 07 12:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @jwildeboer: ♺ @sparks: "I need to upgrade my laptop from #Ubuntu to #Fedora today." #overheardinmyoffice < *EvilGrin* | Mar 07 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Keeping !crunchbang for the time being; it may change my mind about !debian | Mar 07 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 447 tser : Hurai is thinking perhaps I'm a changeling. http://bit.ly/ey663O #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | Mar 07 12:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] #Manning "...the underwear was taken away from him as a precaution to ensure that he did not injure himself" !wl !hrw http://is.gd/4xZiap | Mar 07 12:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What is Open Foresight? - http://bit.ly/hVdMgv "to analyze complex issues in an open and collaborative way" | Mar 07 12:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Legally binding e-documents: #Germany pushes secure email - http://bit.ly/hhauli "Ministry of the Interior is backing the scheme": you bet | Mar 07 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Climate, #Mind and Behavior Program - http://bit.ly/idPjAx interesting approach (v @dcarli) | Mar 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Patent Woes Threaten #Drug Firms - http://bit.ly/f47asJ expiration of intellectual monopolies are cause for celebration, not mourning... | Mar 07 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: RT @AndyPPUK @the_MPA asks 'who would invest in an industry that competes with free?' .... Ever heard of bottled H2O? | Mar 07 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: more "cyberdefence" nonsense, this time in #France - http://bit.ly/fCUkPP dumping #Windows would be more efficacious & cheaper | Mar 07 12:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jwildeboer: Seems german company Gamma/Elaman sold some nasty spy SW to #Egyp SS - PDF here http://ur1.ca/3exwu via http://ur1.ca/3exwv | Mar 07 12:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ruiseabra: ♺ @karsten: European public administrations "needlessly spending millions" due to software vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/3e6pm | Mar 07 12:58 | |
| gnufreex | exactly what i feared http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/03/nokias-not-so-cute-qt-move/index.htm | Mar 07 13:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: RT @Lodahl @Mark_Antony 20% of Danish public authorities use #opensource office suite http://tinyurl.com/6h6dxhp #opensource... | Mar 07 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: EU governments could save millions by using #opensource on desktop - http://bit.ly/e2y03b interesting stats in paper... | Mar 07 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vaporware #windows8 | Mar 07 13:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Moving beyond the #Microsoft #monoculture - http://bit.ly/hcL7Nq it's the end of an era - but problems will linger on | Mar 07 13:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Xonotic Nexuiz-Fork Celebrates Its First Anniversary: Xonotic, a fork of the Nexuiz game, is celebrating its... http://bit.ly/ghjZMr | Mar 07 13:10 | |
| Diablo-D3 | GOPHSERV — cross-platform, GPLv3, FreeBASIC. | Mar 07 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >gopher | Mar 07 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >gpl3 | Mar 07 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | >basic | Mar 07 13:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtfamireading.jpg | Mar 07 13:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun The !LinuxOutlaws #Minecraft server is back up. We have also fixed map rendering but some glitches in the visuals still remain... | Mar 07 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Upgrade your graphics drivers for best results with Firefox 4 http://mzl.la/ejRUyR | Mar 07 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Crank up voltage. Watch plastics crack (Futurity.org): http://bit.ly/fzHuSP | Mar 07 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva I think it is harmful to call all those things open core since we need term open core to use it against real open core companies. | Mar 07 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva And it is no fun when they point back to your "linux is open core" article | Mar 07 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva Those three things (open core, blobs, and proprietary re-licensing) are all harmful but not to the same extent. | Mar 07 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @lxoliva So they need to be called differently. | Mar 07 13:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @lxnews: The DoJ is Looking into Anti-WebM Moves by MPEG LA http://lxnews.org/2011/03/07/doj-anti-webm-by-mpeg-la/ | Mar 07 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Unity 3.6.2 has been released: http://ur1.ca/3f0g7 | Mar 07 13:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Has !GNOME rejected !Canonical help? http://ur1.ca/3f0it | Mar 07 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design blog: That’s it, we’re quitting http://ur1.ca/3f0kq | Mar 07 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Scientific !Linux 6.0 has been released: http://ur1.ca/3f0l6 | Mar 07 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !unity source package is in #Natty http://ur1.ca/3f0lu | Mar 07 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/431809/rss | Mar 07 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] brilliant, hackers managing to unban modded #PS3s while banning unmodded PS3s http://tighturl.com/2znc #hilarious #cat #mouse | Mar 07 13:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I got Clementine to build on SL 6 with some libs from Fedora | Mar 07 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 13:56 |
| gnufreex | why not just use fedora? | Mar 07 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | because I like a challenge :) | Mar 07 14:01 |
| gnufreex | Hmm. Scientist! | Mar 07 14:02 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I almost have Pidgin ready to build | Mar 07 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I've had to do some..... modifications | Mar 07 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | but I think it will accept my system here shortly | Mar 07 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I got Transmission built :) | Mar 07 14:02 |
| gnufreex | If you tested it well, see if you can submit it to epel | Mar 07 14:03 |
| gnufreex | but you would need to test it aganst CentOS too. | Mar 07 14:03 |
| gnufreex | Since SL is not 100% carbon copy. | Mar 07 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | Sauerbraten works fine | Mar 07 14:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Frantically compiling the notes for the !LO live show in a bit.... | Mar 07 14:03 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 14:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ubuntudesigners That’s it, we’re quitting: http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/ | Mar 07 14:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I've also built Firefox 4 | Mar 07 14:03 |
| gnufreex | No proprietary drivers? | Mar 07 14:03 |
| gnufreex | I mean, you don't use it? | Mar 07 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | I have Catalyst 11.2 right now | Mar 07 14:04 |
| gnufreex | eh crap. I hoped it works without | Mar 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure I could backport Mesa and X.org if I really felt like it | Mar 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | 2d acceleration works fine | Mar 07 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | If I was going to go to that much trouble I would just use Fedora | Mar 07 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | AtRPMs gave me a new ALSA lib | Mar 07 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's kind of distrurbing | Mar 07 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I want !Minecraft on the !PS3. | Mar 07 14:06 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm only really concerned with having the latest versions of a few things | Mar 07 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | it really makes more sense to just maintain those myself than use an entire distribution of untested crap | Mar 07 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Most gratuitous use of the word 'Belgium' in a documentary http://ur1.ca/3f0ug | Mar 07 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] My last day at the FSF. Congratulations to John Sullivan the new ED: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/peterb | Mar 07 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Microsoft Death Watch - Forbes Weighs In - http://bit.ly/hDGJcw #microsoft #tablet | Mar 07 14:20 | |
| DaemonFC | gnufreex, also, compiling network-facing software yourself can have advantages, such as being able to enable security options like stack protection | Mar 07 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | though Red Hat is already good about that | Mar 07 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu isn't | Mar 07 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: brilliant, hackers unban modded #PS3s while banning unmodded PS3s http://tighturl.com/2znc #hilarious #cat #mouse | Mar 07 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RD @danto !Ryzom is now #FreeToPlay http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35224 #mmorpg !gnu #agpl | Thanks for the bday present, ryzom! | Mar 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @peterb: My last day at the FSF. Congratulations to John Sullivan the new ED: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/peterb | Mar 07 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is the Navy Trying to Start the Robot Apocalypse? (Wired): http://bit.ly/dYeApw | Mar 07 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If I thought that last week was busy, it was because I have not experienced the one ahead yet. Looks promising :-/ | Mar 07 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Linux Outlaws are live now with the pre-show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live !lo | Mar 07 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is akbarnasr with 116 dents! | Mar 07 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing another !LO wohoooooooooooooooo!!!! | Mar 07 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @zach Bugs me when people bitch about Facebook and Twitter but wont even make the slightest, tiny effort to use or support the open web. | Mar 07 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf FSF announces new executive director -- http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-announces-new-executive-director -- !fsf !gnu !dbd !lp | Mar 07 15:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @johnsu01 congratulations! | Mar 07 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber Seeing ./__MACOSX/ in FOSS-containing archives makes me go =_= #petpeeve | Mar 07 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Ubuntu 11.11 - Obtuse Obscurity #sarcasmenabled | Mar 07 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @thistleweb: @fabsh you're kiddin', is that the next Ubuntu name? obstuse obscurity, erm..I mean whatever that ohnoes one was | Mar 07 15:21 | |
| GoForbes28 | "Ubuntu 11.11 - Obtuse Obscurity"? | Mar 07 15:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva it's not an additional restriction, it's an agreement where you waive some of your rights in exchange for the service. | Mar 07 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva That's ok by me, if my clients always changed stuff I make I'd need to charge a whole lot more. | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Is copyright enforcement effective or counterproductive? SSRC releases landmark empirical study of media piracy: https://eff.org/r.z7y | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] actually Obstinate Orangutan suits the Librarian better now I think about it #Discworld | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[invi/@invi] !fotolibre !softwarelibre !nolesvotes !wikileaks ¿Acceso a la cultura y la educación? http://ur1.ca/3f1i1 | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] some distro should adopt #Discworld as their naming scheme | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva what is really unfortunate is the *threat* language. It's not nice and irks a lot some people (like me, a lot, because I like RH). | Mar 07 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Cthon98 rocks! http://bash.org/?244321 | Mar 07 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] whoo, turns out my appointment tomorrow is MUCH closer than I thought | Mar 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] forgot to announce !linuxlibre 2.6.32.31-libre2-lemote for !yeeloong !gnewsense, with a bunch of additional drivers | Mar 07 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The best Web security against hackers and spammers: advanced math! (LA TImes): http://lat.ms/g1JsY8 | Mar 07 15:56 | |
| gnufreex | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/uspto_overhaul/ | Mar 07 16:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @mv Farmers to Show Solidarity with Wis. Public Employees http://bit.ly/gFPOA7 !wisconsin !ilm #farmers | Mar 07 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh doing an Ass To Mouth show? is that a special episode? or a pilot for a new Sixbum Productions show? ;P | Mar 07 16:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @carlopiana: @peterb best wishes and thanks for your time and dedication to Free Software. | Mar 07 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Considering buying an e-reader based on e-ink. Suggestions,!Lazyweb? | Mar 07 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh god! The netbook winner is from Australia! The shipping will kill my bank account! Oo | Mar 07 16:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @alexanderhanff I hate doing things last minute but have to find a hotel in Brussels near BEUC's office for tomorrow night. PLS HELP | Mar 07 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb @carlopiana to @peterb: best wishes and thanks for your time and dedication to Free Software | Mar 07 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Kik Messenger adds group chat and photos for !Android & iOS users http://goo.gl/MHUg7 | Mar 07 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva the purpose of an NDA is the ND. The purpose of the agreement is two fold: reduce support cost and maximise proffit. | Mar 07 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] At a Wisconsin Town Hall, the Mood Turns Against Compromise - Natasha Vargas-Cooper - Politics - The Atlantic http://ow.ly/49CmB | Mar 07 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Thrilled about the new job, sad to lose @peterb. Thanks for all the kind words from everyone. http://ur1.ca/3f197 | Mar 07 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya seems to be an opportunity for every foreign politician to give a rare airing to their "values" #hypocricy | Mar 07 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya seems to be an opportunity for every foreign politician to give a rare airing to their "values" #hypocrisy | Mar 07 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: We're a proud sponsor of the very first #confkdein - http://kde.in/conf/ -- Are you attending? | Mar 07 16:33 | |
| GoForbes28 | I love the comments at http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110306/22010113374/hackers-claim-they-can-unban-banned-ps3s-while-banning-unmodded-ps3s.shtml#comments | Mar 07 16:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Kasvopus - Facebook client for Maemo, MeeGo and Symbian ^3: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7102 | Mar 07 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @danielmarti: I don't see why people are so concerned about Gnome 3.0. It's not that bad, and its appearance hasn't changed for years | Mar 07 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: qvdremote - use your N900 as a TCP/IP remote for VDR server: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7104 | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @alexanderhanff Hotel now booked thanks for the suggestions everyone. | Mar 07 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Community: Nominations open for #Maemo Community Council election http://is.gd/659Bu9 #maemo | Mar 07 16:38 | |
| GoForbes28 | Either they are corporatrolls, or very very ignorant people | Mar 07 16:39 |
| GoForbes28 | The ones arguing the Sony victim B.S | Mar 07 16:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why have I got a dogfight going on in the middle of my living room? | Mar 07 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Crowd-Sourcing System Requirements For Free Software: When purchasing commercial software for Windows and Mac OS... http://bit.ly/fVh9TZ | Mar 07 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @susanamas: Whistleblower site 'Québecleaks' to launch Wednesday RT http://t.co/12YI0xq via @cyberpresse | Mar 07 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: actually Obstinate Orangutan suits the Librarian better now I think about it #Discworld | Mar 07 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Memory_Project: Featured Veteran: MARGARET GUILDFORD Signing up to work overseas as a nurse http://fb.me/Rw95HPCZ | Mar 07 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Agriculture Min. Gerry Ritz was lobbied by University of Saskatchewan on Feb. 08 http://bit.ly/eOUWLA #????? | Mar 07 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @alexhundert: York Regional Police aka York Pork get Rolling Fortress: http://bit.ly/gcO8Z1 #areyoufuckingkiddingme? #WTF? #acab | Mar 07 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @mgeist: Bloc's terms for C-32 support: extend levy, no fair dealing for education, no change on broadcast ephemeral http://is.gd/PdnzFw | Mar 07 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonQC: "I almost can't believe I'm witnessing this. We're inside the fortress of terror in Egypt" http://bit.ly/hVQiiQ #Egypt #Stasi | Mar 07 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva because what you loose in the case of support contracts is support contract. "We don't hold your hand anymore". | Mar 07 17:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva It's nasty, but doesn't remove freedom. And I'm sure it's more oriented towards being able to be used on abusers rather than always | Mar 07 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Costa-Rica WikiLeaks, What a scandal! http://alturl.com/xohb9 !wl | Mar 07 17:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Chatzilla is working again (had to apply a patch though) | Mar 07 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Gods of Tech | Culture | Vanity Fair http://ow.ly/49Eib « No one will agree entirely with this list | Mar 07 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva An NDA is a contract, but one whose purpose is to hide information. | Mar 07 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I just donated 10 Euro to the !lo to help cover shipping costs of sending a netbook to someone not named jezra ;) | Mar 07 17:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Nigerian Supreme Court judges took bribes to validate Yar'Adua/Jonathan election http://is.gd/rSo1PI !wl | Mar 07 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cue the carriers whining to the regulators to get this banned http://tighturl.com/2znv competition eh? that's not part of the plan | Mar 07 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ‘There will be consequences’ for Manning’s mistreatment, Kucinich warns Sec. Gates http://is.gd/Wy625Z !wl | Mar 07 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, !unity 3.6.2 is reeally fast... | Mar 07 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I don't recommend people discuss their friends relationship troubles on the bus | Mar 07 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I can't wait the day I can upgrade all of my machines to #natty... | Mar 07 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Writing this from a #triangletransit bus | Mar 07 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Kenya rejected America’s ICC plot | Nation http://is.gd/cE3R9S !wl | Mar 07 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva it's cancelled if you do something wrong (like paying for support on X servers and using that support on much more than that). | Mar 07 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] now using stock !debian !emacs on !crunchbang; !gnus not using authinfo file | Mar 07 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva I agree. | Mar 07 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Leaked !Android app has cloud sync for rooted phones. Are we closer to Google Music launch? http://goo.gl/xik7b | Mar 07 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Estarei na Manifestação Geração à Rasca este Sábado, dia 12 de Março. E tu? Os protestos são válidos, e não apenas de uma única geração. | Mar 07 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Linux is losing the race to the #tablet - http://tek.io/gXdn4R yeah, just like android lost the race to the smartphone... | Mar 07 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: 'Kirchners, allies react with fury and paranoia' http://is.gd/8gHKiD !wl | Mar 07 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HawkEye firm sold to #Sony http://tighturl.com/2znx | Mar 07 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @rms Urgent: Support defunding of War in Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/3f2fb | Mar 07 17:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Zombels... Zombels. Zombelling free... Zombels, underground... | Mar 07 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Vote rigging in Nigera http://is.gd/NVLOH3 !wl | Mar 07 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Liliputing: How to run Ubuntu Linux on the Motorola XOOM tablet http://ping.fm/ddC4v | Mar 07 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Every time I lose a follower, deep in my heart, I believe they have been eaten by a Grue. | Mar 07 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Linux is losing the race to the #tablet - http://tek.io/gXdn4R yeah, just like android lost the race to the smartphone... (via @glynmoody) | Mar 07 17:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks: Saudi princes engage in sex, drug parties http://alturl.com/cb7am !wl | Mar 07 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Running yum updated on the freshly installed F14 Xfce netbook. Yup. 413 updates. | Mar 07 17:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “America is not broke”- Michael Moore - http://bit.ly/ijkQxF "400 Americans have the same wealth as half of all Americans combined." | Mar 07 17:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arctic ice loss moves phytoplankton peak up to 50 days early, could “lead to crashes of the food web” - http://bit.ly/iiNazH good idea, no? | Mar 07 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Off to bed.... Will probably be a busy day tomorrow.... | Mar 07 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Arctic ice loss moves phytoplankton peak up to 50 days early, could “lead to crashes of the food web” - http://bit.ly/iiNazH | Mar 07 18:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @dduane: :) RT @janecpb Charlie Sheen fired from 2.5 Men. Gadhafi, you're next! | Mar 07 18:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: “America is not broke” Michael Moore http://bit.ly/ijkQxF 400 Americans have the same wealth as half of all Americans combined | Mar 07 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 15 Must-Have Linux Desktop Apps (Datamation) http://lwn.net/Articles/431888/rss | Mar 07 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] wow. simply wow. 400 people who even received money from the 2008 bailouts have as much wealth as 155 million americans combined. WOW. | Mar 07 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PWN2OWN Goes Deep to Exploit Browsers http://twurl.nl/1l7esi via @WebUpd8 « Still struggling with Chrome | Mar 07 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Inhumanity at Quantico http://alturl.com/5p6xj !wl | Mar 07 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-02-28 - 2011-03-06 http://ow.ly/1bEUJv | Mar 07 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New cables from Moscow, Stockholm, Nairobi, Kyiv, Bogata, Tallinn http://alturl.com/69zsb !wl | Mar 07 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My current !book is A short history of Ireland (re-reading actually) | Mar 07 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RD Workers Under Attack Will Tell Their Stories to Congressional Hearing http://bit.ly/eq9NBd via@mv | Mar 07 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.33 and 2.6.37.3 http://lwn.net/Articles/431893/rss | Mar 07 18:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Regulating against Public Interest: !CRTC approves BCE takeover of CTV http://ur1.ca/3f36k < why CRTC needs to be dissolved #cdnpoli !Canada | Mar 07 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Enterprise distributions and free software http://lwn.net/Articles/431854/rss | Mar 07 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Mexican #police chief fired after reportedly fleeing to US http://ur1.ca/3f370 #Addiction=medical problem; #Legalize=cartels go broke | Mar 07 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I need a bigger tortilla! | Mar 07 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm #Mexican #police chief fired after reportedly fleeing to US http://ur1.ca/3f370 #Addiction=medical problem; #Legalize=cartels g ... | Mar 07 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gamambel RT @telecomix: journalists may register 4 free. We teach you skills to prevent censorship and surveillance: http://www.rsf- ... | Mar 07 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Anybody know where I can find grande tortillas in #durham or Chapel Hill, #north_carolina ? | Mar 07 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ RT @telecomix: journalists may register 4 free. We teach you skills to prevent censorship and surveillance http://ur1.ca/3f3p8 <english | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ah to be in Geneva 12 MARS 2011 4 the WORLD DAY AGAINST CYBER-CENSORSHIP ... we need this maybe even more in the so-called 'free world' !wl | Mar 07 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #NC bill H.129 to stifle #google fiber in #triangle: TWC trying to crush free market. let your rep know it's not OK: http://bit.ly/eoQerF | Mar 07 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Pics of #Immortal concert in Chicago posted on #gnewbook. http://ur1.ca/3f498 !CC BY SA #blackmetal #heavymetal | Mar 07 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rlyehbob: Ah, poor Gaddafi. He denied Cthulhu, and now he's paying the piper, the piper at the gates of Sarnath #evilchuckle | Mar 07 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Natural Resources Min. Christian Paradis was lobbied by Hydro-Quebec on Sep. 14 http://bit.ly/dFeT2o | Mar 07 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @atopiary: That's right, media, AnonNews is run by the US government. We're all CIA, Santa is real, and we took the tooth fairy hostage. | Mar 07 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : The second sack of Arko, and, an Arkan writes. http://bit.ly/ey663O #Chevenga #weblit #reading #fantasy | Mar 07 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senator Durbin's opinion piece on the ups, downs, and human rights obligations of U.S. tech companies overseas: https://eff.org/r.z7z | Mar 07 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Egypt faces new turmoil: Looted state security files | McClatchy http://is.gd/r0lMlM !wl | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] *In #kungfu flick voice* Your site's annoying ads are no match for my #Adblock Plus style! *evil lol* adblockplus.org #Firefox | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @quaid #Android as a talking-guide for visually impaired - Eyes-Free Android: Walking About With A Talking Android http://bit.ly/fB82yT | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm *In #kungfu flick voice* Your site's annoying ads are no match for my #Adblock Plus style! *evil lol* adblockplus.org #Firefox | Mar 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @atopiary: That's right, media, AnonNews is run by the US government. We're all CIA, Santa is real, and we took the ... | Mar 07 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter go get 'em! | Mar 07 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] < back to final proofing !mynovel | Mar 07 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Supreme Court to hear Golan, an important case testing Congressional limits on removing works from the public domain: https://eff.org/r.1z2 | Mar 07 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Senator Durbin's opinion piece on the ups, downs, and human rights obligations of U.S. tech companies overseas: https://eff.org/ ... | Mar 07 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Supreme Court to hear Golan, an important case testing Congressional limits on removing works from the public domain: https://ef ... | Mar 07 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 100 days of Cablegate: http://alturl.com/5a7t3 !wl | Mar 07 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Sam Varghese has a level headed and accurate report on things, as always. http://ur1.ca/3f56g | Mar 07 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] A Mind Forever Voyaging | Mar 07 20:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why I wouldn't live in the United States - and I'm a man: http://bit.ly/gt4FNx | Mar 07 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 445 Minis believes he is a sinner all over again. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #scifi #reading | Mar 07 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] In an ethereal voice Reeta proclaimed, “The Goddess provides what the Goddess wills." #Amwriting | Mar 07 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @GuidoPuddi: US probes #Anonymous plans for attack on marines http://twurl.nl/5pw7ki | Mar 07 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Or maybe that should have been #Anonymous probes #US plans for attack on marines http://twurl.nl/5pw7ki | Mar 07 21:21 | |
| oiaohm | http://drdobbs.com/windows/229300501 hmm interesting | Mar 07 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just saw a Mini E...just saw a Mini E... http://is.gd/5Dkr09 http://is.gd/RcleFn | Mar 07 21:30 | |
| Ender2070 | http://www.infowars.com/michael-moores-communist-rhetoric-distracts-from-crimes-of-the-banksters/ | Mar 07 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet @speeddefrost Canonical is about as relevant as Xandros/Linspire were - had users but few contributions, no long term ... | Mar 07 21:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fukawi2: Keep it up longer..... Use #linux #innuendo | Mar 07 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when #Windows has an update that it NEEDS to reboot now, why was that update held back for Patch Tuesday? | Mar 07 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if that #Windows patch wasn't so vital that it could be held back, why the urgency for an immediate reboot? | Mar 07 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Windows is a strange world, where you click START to STOP your machine, among many other quirks | Mar 07 22:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @lohang: Women Writers on Adelaide ebooks: In celebration of International Women's Day, 2011 http://ur1.ca/3f5zm #ebooks | Mar 07 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @beefymiracle BEHOLD!!!! #fedora | Mar 07 22:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Interesting visualization of attack on a VOIP server - http://is.gd/aOyPnr | Mar 07 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] OSI Board thanks outgoing FSF Executive Director Peter Brown for his work: http://wmk.me/eDxW65 | Mar 07 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tell Congress to Rein in #PATRIOTAct and Restore JUSTICE! https://eff.org/r.4z3 | Mar 07 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] It's international womens day! Thanks ladies for all your love | Mar 07 22:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @beefymiracle BEHOLD!!!! !fedora < *sighs* be serious... and besides miracles already happened http://is.gd/rOoYEY | Mar 07 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jospoortvliet http://bit.ly/eIAOLQ this post scares me - something is going wrong and I feel Mark is genuinely worried here... !gnome | Mar 07 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] #crisisaverted | Mar 07 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Judge Gross Approves Sale of SCO's Assets to UnXis; Gives Novell 14 Days to Appeal - http://bit.ly/gI5RL7 #SCO | Mar 07 23:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter my kid dragged me away from the computer & forced me to watch "Second Hand Lions"... so I'm running behind, but rejuvenated | Mar 07 23:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #craigslist is truly awesome ♺ @NixiePixel: So this is how Marty McFly did it... http://bit.ly/hIeXrD | Mar 07 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #SCOTUS Rules Phelps and #WBC Can Protest Funerals http://ur1.ca/3emvy #atheist #humanist !lbgt #religion | Mar 07 00:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Peppermint Ice respin 20110302 out now! Check out this excellent distro! http://tinyurl.com/5ualgld !linux !ubuntu !foss !peppermint | Mar 07 00:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dead Nation has an update tomorrow, apparently voice chat and other new features added http://tinyurl.com/5r64rhu !ps3 !psn | Mar 07 00:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj !wl | Mar 07 00:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man, that Star Trek episode of #Yogscast is hilarious! Amazing stuff... | Mar 07 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. I need sleep.... I fear what I'll dream about tonight with all that scriptwriting and #Yogscast though. Oo | Mar 07 00:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New WikiLeaks book: WIKILEAKS AND THE AGE OF TRANSPARENCY by Micah Sifry http://www.orbooks.com/our-b... http://bit.ly/f4XxNx | Mar 07 01:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks cables: MI6 warns of new suicide bomb wave | Telegraph http://is.gd/zyyPtj http://bit.ly/eS4ARg | Mar 07 01:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is someone who loves Big Mac's a "Mac fan"? | Mar 07 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The New Economy. http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/The_New_Economy Likeable 80's retro. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 07 01:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya BBC reporter questioned why helicopter landing when they could take a taxi from ship. Now ship was there to collect them #bollocks | Mar 07 01:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] It's impossible to express in words how unenthusiastic I am about working around this IE7 bug. | Mar 07 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Go and give Gordon support/encouragement for his intention to write a novel in a month! http://tinyurl.com/6brnagn | Mar 07 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya all of a sudden shit coverage from BBC does not count for much. Why do people trust them? | Mar 07 01:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to "All quiet on the Western front" on Radio 7! - Great stuff! | Mar 07 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/guEerc #eff #sony #DMCA | Mar 07 01:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Android Just Overtook Apple iOS and BlackBerry http://tinyurl.com/49fpo52 !android - !wp7 !apple !microsoft !mvpbuzz !mvp | Mar 07 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Patches Published For Merging S3TC Library Into Mesa: It's a slightly more interesting Sunday than usual. Beside... http://bit.ly/e4VOE5 | Mar 07 01:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey !fedora folks, our GSoC application is due by Friday! There have to be more awesome ideas to add, no? http://ur1.ca/3ep1o | Mar 07 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Sweet Mother Logic. http://ur1.ca/3ep23 Eclectic, oddly compelling instrumentals. !jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SA | Mar 07 02:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh shiney! I'm adding RSS feeds to the ugliest UI I've ever had to deal with. | Mar 07 02:34 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm going to review Scientific Linux 6 shortly (just because I've been meaning to) | Mar 07 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | interesting to note that at the same time as this obfuscated kernel source, various Fedora related projects have started snubbing RHEL clones | Mar 07 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | (No RPM Fusion for EL 6) | Mar 07 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | AtRPMs and ELRepo are still around | Mar 07 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | a while back, some of the RPM Fusion people were trying to FUD both of them as "breaking" Fedora releases | Mar 07 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | ELRepo has never claimed that adding them to Fedora was a good idea (though they can't stop a person from it) and AtRPMs does replace some Fedora RPMs with its own versions, but always names them such that they won't break distribution upgrades | Mar 07 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of wonder how long Red Hat/Fedora have been trying to subvert free RHEL clones without coming right out and saying it :) | Mar 07 02:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: This obfuscated kernel stunt is not the first time Redhat has done it either. | Mar 07 02:49 |
| oiaohm | They did it when mandrake was branching off as well. | Mar 07 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | for a while, RPM Fusion for EL 5 was providing kmods for video drivers because of Nvidia and ATI having this annoying habit or replacing libGL.so with their own versions, but the RPMs provided for RHEL have never done this | Mar 07 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | the ATI installer package builds an RPM that adds a diversion to their libGL.so without replacing the system package | Mar 07 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you remove the RPM later, your system goes right back to using MESA | Mar 07 02:50 |
| oiaohm | ATI has been good that way. | Mar 07 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | but if you run it as the generic Linux installer, it will bulldoze your system library | Mar 07 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 02:50 |
| oiaohm | The Nvidia driver has a hunt down and destroy any other opengl lib it can find. | Mar 07 02:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Tired of parents treating me like meat | Mar 07 02:51 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if you do use the generic installer, it's a simple matter of yum reinstall libgl (or whatever that package name was) | Mar 07 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | it won't break your system, you just won't have 3d until you do that | Mar 07 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia has a search and destory feature in there installer. DaemonFC | Mar 07 02:52 |
| oiaohm | ATI only has the opps the file was in the same place we wanted to place it. | Mar 07 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, last time I used Nvidia's installer it was because I needed a beta driver to use with a kernel I built | Mar 07 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | and when it came time to remove it later in preference to a distro package, I was sorry :) | Mar 07 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia also does equal to windows by the way. | Mar 07 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just one package it destroys, with Nvidia you have to gut and replace ALL of Mesa | Mar 07 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | ATI is just an annoyance | Mar 07 02:54 |
| oiaohm | ATI is hamless if you install it right. | Mar 07 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia will prevent pretty much everything beyond framebuffer video if you remove it later | Mar 07 02:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @telecomix: Blackout on #Libya for dialup against #censorship: +49 231 97844321 (login: telecomix password: telecomix) #fb | Mar 07 02:54 | |
| oiaohm | The generic installer can be told not to overlap with ATI DaemonFC | Mar 07 02:54 |
| oiaohm | And then you can alter the ld.so.conf so it works. | Mar 07 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Then remove ati just falls back like any good install should. | Mar 07 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't remember what I did to gut Nvidia, but I was close to backing up and formatting | Mar 07 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't end up having to, but it litters your system with its crap, it's not just limited to Mesa or X | Mar 07 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia has the most evil driver in the world (R) | Mar 07 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | if your distro doesn't provide packages and you don't want to use Nouveau, find one that does | Mar 07 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | don't ever use their installer | Mar 07 02:58 |
| oiaohm | Last time I end up running a debian audit script. | Mar 07 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Any package with missing files reinstall. | Mar 07 03:00 |
| oiaohm | or files that don't pass checksum. | Mar 07 03:00 |
| oiaohm | That are elf | Mar 07 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Its one of my anti root kit scripts. | Mar 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | I kept in mind how ugly Nvidia's driver was when it came time to buy a new card | Mar 07 03:00 |
| oiaohm | I made the mistake on a system I had installed Nvidia | Mar 07 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | it wasn't the deciding factor, but geez | Mar 07 03:01 |
| oiaohm | of running my anti root kit scripts | Mar 07 03:01 |
| oiaohm | That is how I knew it would work. | Mar 07 03:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is a batchelor pad for dads, called a Dad Pad? or is that a Thinkpad used by Fathers Lobby Groups? | Mar 07 03:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] And here comes the breakdown. #nov4 | Mar 07 03:01 | |
| oiaohm | Ie Poff by by Nvidia | Mar 07 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all of Nvidia's performance I understand comes from working around the X server instead of using it | Mar 07 03:01 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia is doing what DRI2 enables. | Mar 07 03:02 |
| oiaohm | But DRI2 does it cleanly. | Mar 07 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | X.org is probably more mismanaged now than ever, not like Nvidia needs to look hard to use them as an excuse | Mar 07 03:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anyone who uses a vocoder straight to ICC Life sentence listening to singers using a vocoder. #justice | Mar 07 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it my imagination or just the circle of people I follow? there's a large proportion of Canadians using Identi.ca \o/ clued up countries | Mar 07 03:03 | |
| oiaohm | X,org has been trying to delete old DRI1 hacks for ever. | Mar 07 03:03 |
| oiaohm | Problem is delete them Nvidia drivers die. | Mar 07 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | they're becoming what they criticized XFree86 of being | Mar 07 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | this big monolithic mess with varying degrees of quality and overlapping drivers, so on so forth | Mar 07 03:03 |
| oiaohm | Really X.org is not DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:03 |
| oiaohm | The X.org code base has reduced in size. | Mar 07 03:04 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the overlapping drivers started before x.org DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:04 |
| oiaohm | Dri1 was a major design stuff up done by Xfree86 DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:05 |
| oiaohm | DRI1 was built with the logic that a person would Only need 1 opengl application at a time. | Mar 07 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Now how do you fix something like that. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | well, obviously you can't | Mar 07 03:06 |
| oiaohm | Only way is basically rebuild everything. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:06 |
| oiaohm | DRI2 | Mar 07 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with what Wayland is doing in principle | Mar 07 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | but in fact, I'm skeptical they'll get everyone onboard | Mar 07 03:07 |
| oiaohm | Everything has to be rebuilt for DRI2. And in the processor Wayland got invented. | Mar 07 03:07 |
| oiaohm | Wayland and X.org are sharing many parts. | Mar 07 03:07 |
| oiaohm | Including keyboard input; | Mar 07 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well right now you have ATI using DRI 1, and Nvidia using a combination of DRI 1 and their own extensions held together with chewing gum | Mar 07 03:08 |
| oiaohm | Really the lead of X.org is onboard with Wayland. | Mar 07 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's why only the free drivers work with Wayland, or KMS, or..... | Mar 07 03:08 |
| oiaohm | ATI is trying to do away with there closed source drivers. | Mar 07 03:08 |
| oiaohm | So ATI will get kinda fixed at some point. | Mar 07 03:08 |
| oiaohm | The long term plan from ATI is quite complex. | Mar 07 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Ie open source drivers get so far then they will release binary libs todo the patent covered bit. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Yes insane one of the last moves is merge the streams. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia its getting harder and harder each release of X.org for them to remain Dri1 | Mar 07 03:10 |
| oiaohm | And Nvidia does not want to have to release KMS to kernel. | Mar 07 03:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Naming of Fedora 16 underway - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_16 #fb | Mar 07 03:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Goregaon West ! | Mar 07 03:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | so basically you're seeing ATI support the freee driver framework for the same reason Fluendo supports GStreamer | Mar 07 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | they hope to sell you binaries to plug into the "free" framework later on | Mar 07 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise it could be unusable | Mar 07 03:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Not sell AMD will want to sell the cards to you. | Mar 07 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | you know what I mean | Mar 07 03:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: they don't want you to be feature behind due to patents. | Mar 07 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | you still need them even though there will be some baseline functionality without it | Mar 07 03:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Now of course if AMD can get the right patent agreements or implement the patent coverd parts in hardware. | Mar 07 03:13 |
| oiaohm | So that out the box it works AMD will. | Mar 07 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | here, please build this nifty new framework to support our nonfree plugins | Mar 07 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | you've saved us so much money on programmer salary, thanks so much! | Mar 07 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Problem is not all the old card were doing all the opengl features that are patent covered in hardware. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:13 |
| oiaohm | AMD is basically going to work around a problem kindly. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia from leaks appears to be working on a completely new driver for Linux in house. | Mar 07 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Gstreamer was designed to allow closed source plugins in. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Note AMD is also talking to a lot of patent holder of opengl stuff about letting open source. | Mar 07 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Patent Troll, please find it in your heart of hearts to give up this racketeering scheme that our milk cow of 1,000 tits, known also as the patent system, has enabled you to sit back and make money on without the process of actually making, anything. Your friends, AMD | Mar 07 03:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do you think AMD is talk nice. | Mar 07 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Dear Patent Troll Please consider being nice to open source or we will have to start researching other ways to implement the functionality. So one day we will pay you nothing. | Mar 07 03:22 |
| oiaohm | And Patnet Troll most likely will listern because AMD has done that before. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:23 |
| oiaohm | AMD really does not care about paying patents as long as it does not interfere with what they want todo. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | Dear AMD, call us when you figure out how to get every game made that uses S3TC to work without any S3TC support in the driver. BTW, thanks for paying us royalties on your use of it in Catalyst, those checks are nice. If you can think of anything else that we may own a government sanctioned monopoly on that you would like to pay us for and transfer more costs onto your customers over, have your people call our people. Toodles! | Mar 07 03:24 |
| oiaohm | That would be a bad responce. | Mar 07 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | What's ridiculous is how this bullshit can end up making it into a standard like OpenGL | Mar 07 03:25 |
| oiaohm | Because AMD hardware implemenation S3TC is covered by AMD patent. | Mar 07 03:26 |
| oiaohm | So they don't have to pay for that one. | Mar 07 03:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can get anything done tonight or if I'm just going to fail again. #nov4 | Mar 07 03:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I read somewhere that being owned by non Canadians can be legal reason for seizure, I don't wanna build a brand then lose it | Mar 07 03:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter how brainwashed I was/am thought .ca was California | Mar 07 03:26 | |
| DaemonFC | an industry standard is almost always packed full of patents like a thanksgiving turkey | Mar 07 03:26 |
| oiaohm | AMD can in theory shot down S3TC | Mar 07 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | they tend to use things like the Khronos Group as a circle jerk | Mar 07 03:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all #lmde needs to be the perfect laptop / netbook distro is the option to encrypt /home in the installer !linux !linuxmint | Mar 07 03:28 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the problem is that you can't call something an open standards and then tell everyone that wants to implement it where to send the checks | Mar 07 03:28 |
| oiaohm | Recent years getting patented features into Khronos Group has been getting harder. | Mar 07 03:28 |
| oiaohm | Any ideas why. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:29 |
| oiaohm | All the video card makers have worked out the patent agreements are more of a pain in the ass than profit making. | Mar 07 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, why isn't anyone scared about the Direct3D state tracker? There's an entire API full of god knows what that is maintained by Microsoft | Mar 07 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | and we're worried about one texture compression algorithm in OpenGL? | Mar 07 03:29 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft patent threatens Video card makers by the way. | Mar 07 03:30 |
| oiaohm | it kinda woke them up. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:30 |
| oiaohm | To how stupid they were being. | Mar 07 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | That D3D state tracker is more worrying than Mono, just watch what happens when you have Linux programs that need DirectX and Microsoft launches a lawsuit | Mar 07 03:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter Part of Mexico :-) | Mar 07 03:31 | |
| oiaohm | Problem MS is limited. | Mar 07 03:31 |
| oiaohm | Most of the features of the state tracker are exposed by the video card makers. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | S3TC is just about one washed up patent troll that nobody cares about anymore, and it brings the OpenGL state tracker work to a halt | Mar 07 03:31 |
| oiaohm | No S3TC did not bring work to a halt. | Mar 07 03:33 |
| oiaohm | Floating point textures has. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:33 |
| oiaohm | 2 patents of hell. | Mar 07 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | they're debating whether to make Mesa the new LAME | Mar 07 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | jsut ship it as source code and let the distro or user worry about it | Mar 07 03:34 |
| oiaohm | The Floating point textures one is worse because you need that functionally to match fully base spec of opengl 2.0 and is required in opengl 3.0 and 4.0 | Mar 07 03:34 |
| oiaohm | S3TC is not a required part of the spec. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | Dear user, OpenGL isn't all that open, so will you please compile it yourself or get it from a server in the Russian Federation? Thanks. | Mar 07 03:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter within a few lifetimes yes mostly | Mar 07 03:36 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Interesting thing here. | Mar 07 03:37 |
| oiaohm | ATI implement the extention for floating point textures | Mar 07 03:37 |
| oiaohm | using a patent they did not own. | Mar 07 03:37 |
| oiaohm | Thank you ATI for having incompetent Patent tracking. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I am sorry I do not understand | Mar 07 03:39 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Really Khronos group has been a lot better since AMD bought ATI out. | Mar 07 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | ATI was a joke | Mar 07 03:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I do not know what a tv chow is. | Mar 07 03:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | "ATI Premium Graphics" Oh, is THAT why your driver segfaults if I turn Compiz on? Awesome. | Mar 07 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | Their driver has always been a pain in the ass, it's just been less of one every month since AMD bought them. | Mar 07 03:43 |
| oiaohm | ATI is improving. | Mar 07 03:43 |
| oiaohm | Getting to the point AMD will start using there own branding. | Mar 07 03:44 |
| oiaohm | and the ATI brand will be allowed die. | Mar 07 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | I got the idea to move over to Enterprise Linux because AMD officially supports it | Mar 07 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's not always the case with other distros, it's more like good luck installing it, oh it has bugs, great | Mar 07 03:44 |
| oiaohm | Meego will also be offically supported by AMD. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:45 |
| oiaohm | There is about 8 distributions Offically supported. | Mar 07 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Ubuntu is supposedly one of them | Mar 07 03:46 |
| oiaohm | correction offically supported with developers. | Mar 07 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | but to get that support, you have to use Ubuntu :) | Mar 07 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu is offically supported for packaging. | Mar 07 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Not for real coding. | Mar 07 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | What is the RHEL upgrade policy like? | Mar 07 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | like for random packages | Mar 07 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | will you get a new Firefox and Pidgin or what? | Mar 07 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | like in point upgrades | Mar 07 03:47 |
| oiaohm | I normally don't use Redhat as a desktop. | Mar 07 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | I notice Pidgin has their own repo that is up to date for EL | Mar 07 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | there's Red Hat Enterprise Linux ISOs that make their way to bittorrent sites | Mar 07 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is just dumb | Mar 07 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Scientific Linux 6 they have money. | Mar 07 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's free clones and you can get updates with those | Mar 07 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have a Red Hat Network subscription, you can't even get security updates for RHEL | Mar 07 03:49 |
| oiaohm | You can if you connect and basically turn it into fedora. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Mar 07 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Red Hat Enterpise contains a downgrade option. | Mar 07 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | RHN is the update mechanism right? | Mar 07 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Connect to Fedora repos | Mar 07 03:51 |
| oiaohm | And magically it ends up fedora. | Mar 07 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | but that's the problem | Mar 07 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | if you use RHEL, you don't want Fedora | Mar 07 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is new and bug prone | Mar 07 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 07 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Why you have to pay for updates | Mar 07 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has the best protection against pirates. | Mar 07 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | right, they backport a decent amount of stuff into EL | Mar 07 03:52 |
| oiaohm | They can pirate as much as they like but its worthless withou the update server. | Mar 07 03:52 |
| oiaohm | EL is Cern. | Mar 07 03:52 |
| oiaohm | Cern has been working with Redhat for a long time. | Mar 07 03:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I was coming around to that but thought it was my cultural ignorance, tell me the joke | Mar 07 03:53 | |
| DaemonFC | RHEL 5 may say Linux 2.6.18, but it has a significant amount of bug fixes and new drivers, features, etc. from newer kernels | Mar 07 03:53 |
| oiaohm | Intesting other way over. | Mar 07 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | a Red Hat engineer said at one point that "there is a stable ABI for Linux, it's called RHEL, it lasts 10 years, and everyone should use it" | Mar 07 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 03:54 |
| oiaohm | RHEL developed a lot of those patches before they went upstream. | Mar 07 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | of course using the actual RHEL as a desktop is pricey | Mar 07 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | $86 a year per seat | Mar 07 03:55 |
| oiaohm | And Cern was not having a bar of that. DaemonFC | Mar 07 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | right, that adds up fast | Mar 07 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | and if you want it as a server..... | Mar 07 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 03:55 |
| oiaohm | So leading to the existance of Scientific Linux | Mar 07 03:55 |
| oiaohm | But Redhat understood this. | Mar 07 03:55 |
| oiaohm | So they both share code with each other. | Mar 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well, SL is not a threat to Red Hat | Mar 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is selling support | Mar 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | not software | Mar 07 03:56 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Mar 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | CentOS or SL is where you go if you wouldn't be paying Red Hat anyway | Mar 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | so why bother trying to muscle them out of existence? | Mar 07 03:57 |
| oiaohm | Main reason to go redhat is the support. | Mar 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to be trying to set up SL 6 as a desktop | Mar 07 03:57 |
| oiaohm | There support contracts are good. | Mar 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be fun even if I don't manage to get results :) | Mar 07 03:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] China deputizes smart phones to spy on Beijing residents’ real-time location. https://eff.org/r.5zw #privacy | Mar 07 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Looks like the latter for now. #nov4 | Mar 07 03:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, my dad says that you only ever see RHEL or Suse, but it's RHEL 3:1 from what he's seen | Mar 07 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | says he's never seen a customer using Ubuntu :) | Mar 07 03:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter I watched a programme about how USA citizens see Canada you are unreconstructed European socialists :-) | Mar 07 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has already demonstrated that they can't stand behind Ubuntu | Mar 07 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | so it goes to reason, "Why pay them to?" | Mar 07 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen people get good results from deploying Ubuntu Server in a low workload capacity | Mar 07 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | but I've never seen super computing projects using it | Mar 07 04:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 07 04:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] satipera BBC says the crazy Gaddafi dupes can't see the sense in not giving in to the government opposition, mad or what? | Mar 07 04:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Forget Saudi Arabia forget Bahrain concentrate on #Libya #westernhypocracy #hyper | Mar 07 04:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] stumbled across a glorious dark #GTK theme http://tighturl.com/2zm8 | Mar 07 04:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter No it is not we all do | Mar 07 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The west does not give a wet shite about democracy, perhaps it is better to join in with the Arab uprising. | Mar 07 04:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] She nodded back. “So you might also merit the Goddess’ protection. #amwriting | Mar 07 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Obama Rescinds Dangerous Bush-Era "Conscience Regulation" http://ur1.ca/3er15 #abortion #healthcare #PlannedParenthood #religion | Mar 07 04:59 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:36:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Actually Meego and WebOS needed to get going on tablets last year. Read today's 4k opus... | Mar 07 05:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/66290417 | Mar 07 05:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 06-Mar-11 23:38:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Quoted Mary Jo a lot, sice she's the Microsoft expert. Conclusion, WIndows for ARM has been in the works since summer 2009. | Mar 07 05:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lazyweb: who owns or runs condosingapore.com? #fb | Mar 07 05:09 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:04:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you pls follow us here & on Twitter? This is @einfeldt posting about FOSS in schools | Mar 07 05:10 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Partimus (partimus)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 03:05:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz would you also consider doing a blog about our work putting computers in public schools? Thx either way Partimus.org | Mar 07 05:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes for the new !techbytes episode are now out http://ur1.ca/3erdd | Mar 07 05:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Things OS X Does Better than #Linux http://ur1.ca/3erna someone can respond with 50 things #gnu Linux does better than #MacOSuX | Mar 07 05:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Post: Tiny Core 3.5 http://ur1.ca/3ero2 I was gonna install that, it quickly gains status | Mar 07 05:43 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: on the 5 things OS X does better. Really we should not fight them that much. A lot should be taken as goals to achive. | Mar 07 05:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @jonobacon helps openwash #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3eh0z what about b0ng, silver lie, OOXML, #swpats aggression? Open...to interpretation | Mar 07 05:44 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: systemd coming to Linux is based on Apple service management because it was better. | Mar 07 05:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sunshineejc #LIBYA IS BURNING!~IS ANYONE WATCHING?: ~ 1000+ protesters killed from helicopters & roof top snipers. #jan25 #feb17 #P2 | Mar 07 05:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 ...Mexican history - #Nahua civlisation is 12,000 yrs old!! - with a segue into the crazy intertwined fates of Brazil & Portugal | Mar 07 05:46 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I did not know that... | Mar 07 05:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @wwwuse: How will Microsoft lose a majority market share? Outlook from an investment site http://t.co/GV3BzuA | Mar 07 05:48 | |
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| gnufreex | good morning | Mar 07 06:17 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 06:17 |
| oiaohm | Good afternoon. gnufreex | Mar 07 06:19 |
| gnufreex | Lol. Ms troll claims he's an RHCE and fails hard: http://forums.channelregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/#c_1003372 | Mar 07 06:19 |
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| gnufreex | I almost sprayed coffee all over the keyboard | Mar 07 06:21 |
| gnufreex | So funny | Mar 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | And this is not the first time Redhat has done this. | Mar 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | In the time of the Mandrake Redhat split. gnufreex | Mar 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | yes it did ruin Mandrake stablish kernel back then. | Mar 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | Ie Redhat has just reverted. | Mar 07 06:22 |
| gnufreex | You mean, when Bruce Perens complained that RH kernel is too different? | Mar 07 06:23 |
| oiaohm | If you are thinking 1996 we are on the same wave lengh. | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | Hmm.. no. | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | This is 2001 | Mar 07 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Bruce Perens complained a few times. | Mar 07 06:25 |
| gnufreex | or so | Mar 07 06:25 |
| oiaohm | First complain from him was at the start of the mandrake/redhat split. | Mar 07 06:26 |
| gnufreex | I touched GNU/Linux first time about then | Mar 07 06:26 |
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| gnufreex | What RH did here is smart | Mar 07 06:26 |
| gnufreex | Only problem is that Debian could have little problems. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Its legal. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | With tracking patches. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | Off course is legal | Mar 07 06:27 |
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| oiaohm | Really is not a big problem either. | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | But I don't get why people complain that much | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | It is not problem at all | Mar 07 06:27 |
| gnufreex | Ethically they are fine too | Mar 07 06:28 |
| gnufreex | And they are not lying about anything, Brian Stevens admited everything. | Mar 07 06:29 |
| gnufreex | Some claim they clash with spirit of GPL | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | But I don't see how. | Mar 07 06:30 |
| gnufreex | If they didn't do before, this move doesn't bring them against spirit of GPL. | Mar 07 06:31 |
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| MinceR | well, the patches would be the preferred form to make modificiations, would they not? | Mar 07 06:36 |
| oiaohm | http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=119 This is rare a case alteration that makes me kinda want. | Mar 07 06:38 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Patches would be preferable. But it also means snooping at other peoples homework as well | Mar 07 06:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Maybe a source compare and patch solver might be invented. | Mar 07 06:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: to make deal with embed device dumps simpler. | Mar 07 06:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rkallensee RT @evan: Ooh. https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus #nodejs #ostatus #fsw #looksawesome | Mar 07 07:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Ping me on twitter @eschnou <== Ho irony :-)" - https://github.com/eschnou/node-ostatus < he is also on Identi.ca /cc: @evan @rkallensee | Mar 07 07:09 | |
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| gnufreex | google can remove stuff from people's phones? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/07/google_remotely_kills_android_malware_apps/ | Mar 07 07:30 |
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| MinceR | yes they can | Mar 07 07:31 |
| MinceR | it's in the android market agreement | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | i am glad I didn't buy Android phone. | Mar 07 07:32 |
| MinceR | though not many details were published, so it's possible that they could technically remove anything | Mar 07 07:32 |
| MinceR | i'm glad too, except i bought a symbian phone and that isn't good either | Mar 07 07:32 |
| MinceR | i wonder if one can disable the killswitch after rooting... | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | I still have a dumbphone | Mar 07 07:32 |
| gnufreex | from Nokia | Mar 07 07:33 |
| gnufreex | Some odd number | Mar 07 07:33 |
| gnufreex | forgot what | Mar 07 07:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hitting the B$A will clue bats continues to be a lost cause - http://ur1.ca/3d6g6 #fb | Mar 07 07:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I did not make my goal (uploading final ms) but new scenes are done. (more work than I thought), putting me a day behind schedule. :( | Mar 07 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning @kevie and good night !identiverse | Mar 07 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now using mutt as an email client, liking it so far. !linux | Mar 07 07:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Now its time to setup a .screenrc file. | Mar 07 07:58 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/44645021160448000 | Mar 07 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz: I have literally no idea what your last tweet actually means. English? :-) | Mar 07 08:02 |
| schestowitz | The point was, Facebook is *very* proprietary (and being partly owned by Microsoft it promotes Microsoft wares) but wants "open" image | Mar 07 08:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44639295063068672 | Mar 07 08:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: "...Windows has 75% PC market share..." that's an interesting figure lower than usually quoted do you know the source? | Mar 07 08:03 |
| schestowitz | I wondered the same thing.... | Mar 07 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #WikiLeaks: US pressured 'allies' to ignore, not prosecute US kidnappings, #torture programmes http://t.co/OuquJXl | Mar 07 08:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget Gaddafi. Blair's new best friend is a despot guilty of even bloodier slaughter - http://bit.ly/gwDPYx Daily Mail, but still.. #blair | Mar 07 08:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook and open source: 'we've come a long way' - http://bit.ly/hgvb4Q useful reminder that #Facebook depends on #opensource | Mar 07 08:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience." - Slashdot MOTD !q | Mar 07 08:13 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: 75 percent I have seen as a quoted number when all x86 hardare total is counted. | Mar 07 08:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The EFF Letter: Sony's subpoenas "impact the free speech interests of myriad third parties" - http://bit.ly/dEgl5f and how #sony #freespeech | Mar 07 08:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #DNA rules will restore public trust - http://bit.ly/fr3nPN sad to see Labour pushing its tired authoritarian #FUD here | Mar 07 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Share a YouTube Video? Go to Jail - http://bit.ly/i6vWu1 petition about Bryan McCarthy & ICE overreach #linking | Mar 07 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Costs of #DNA #Sequencing Falling Fast – Look At These Graphs! - http://bit.ly/hwJAPW people are not ready for the implications of this | Mar 07 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] FUCK OFF LINKEDIN. | Mar 07 08:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Chain of Fools: Upgrading through every version of windows" lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14 #fb | Mar 07 08:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @graziano #Google flips #Android kill switch, destroys a batch of malicious apps: http://ur1.ca/3eu0m | Mar 07 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Video - QWassr for NOKIA N900 - A Quick Demo of My Favorite Twitter client http://t.co/Lkj1Dzw @qwassr | Mar 07 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forbes Estimates M$ Down to 75% Share of PCs http://ur1.ca/3eu8f #gnu #linux #mac #apple #windows | Mar 07 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat corporate timeline http://ur1.ca/3eu9j Red Hat acquired AOL's Netscape server software for about $25 million in cash in September" | Mar 07 08:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: PadOrbiter v2: Joggler Orbiter built atop MeeGo http://youtu.be/ZRKkqxWcytI?a via @tschak | Mar 07 09:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Denver Museum promotes #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/3eu9p 'in this case it just said “Linux”.' #mozilla #advocacy | Mar 07 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best Lightweight #GNU #Linux Distro http://ur1.ca/3eub6 "..bootable live USB stick for itself, it can also be installed to local hard drive" | Mar 07 09:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD needs fresh Blood! http://ur1.ca/3eubl cute devil *needs* "fresh blood" #bsd #freedom | Mar 07 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Open Source Software has been a huge blessing to the software community and businesses in general." http://ur1.ca/3eucl #pakistan #freedom | Mar 07 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Crowdsourced is not Open Source: I’ve heard quite a few conversations that treat open source interchangeably w... http://wmk.me/dKwc3y | Mar 07 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older Android versions http://ur1.ca/3es44 fragme^H^H^H^Hversity #android #linux #choice | Mar 07 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of#Motorola #Xoom http://ur1.ca/3eue2 "Don't jump for the Xoom just because it's the first—they rushed it out prematurely" #linux | Mar 07 09:09 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 07 09:14 |
| gnufreex | geeking | Mar 07 09:14 |
| gnufreex | s | Mar 07 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 RC two days away. Final date unknown, still. | Mar 07 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ovidius: @carlopiana Maybe someone can explain me why having to assign Google the right to remote kill apps does not violate the GPL #GQ! | Mar 07 09:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/44686079386857472 | Mar 07 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @schestowitz: Now we need those Corp's & individuals to admit that it's not just Windows & Mac but that this Linux thing actually exists! | Mar 07 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Indeed | Mar 07 09:21 |
| oiaohm | Boy people don't get it. | Mar 07 09:21 |
| oiaohm | First generations of a device are always sux | Mar 07 09:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/GNU/Linux_Market_Share | Mar 07 09:22 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Mar 07 09:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why a Xoom? http://ur1.ca/3euk2 not as negative as Fox Technica #xoom #motorola #linux #android #tablet #formfactor | Mar 07 09:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=is_it_time_to_reboot_or_replace_wikipedi&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Mar 07 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | It's not *that* bad, is it? | Mar 07 09:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: Next after #Natty? The #Oneiric Ocelot! http://goo.gl/O0r4P | Mar 07 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Server Attention Span http://xkcd.com/869/ | Mar 07 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Google frags fragmentation with Fragments API for older !Android versions http://goo.gl/SaKgK | Mar 07 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In Unity [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/gb9oHV | Mar 07 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica Feature: Ars reviews the Motorola Xoom !android tablet http://goo.gl/2n6IB | Mar 07 09:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Clement: Access to the Internet "fast becoming" crucial part of social and economic fabric of the country. #UBB | Mar 07 09:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: No More Compiz Desktop Cube Plugin In !Unity http://goo.gl/lY4zO !Ubuntu #Natty | Mar 07 09:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: Google Summer of Code 2011 for !GNOME & openSUSE http://goo.gl/6jgZv | Mar 07 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if I can turn this #nov4 around | Mar 07 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Launch Party in Prague http://goo.gl/5nmq7 | Mar 07 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu on CR-48! Windows 7 Launcher on Android, and Copyright Infringement Sucks [3/6/11 Vlog] http://ur1.ca/3eut4 #chromeos | Mar 07 09:39 | |
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| gnufreex | Of course, Xoom has NVIDIA GPU so no Free drivers. | Mar 07 09:42 |
| gnufreex | Motorola sucks badly. | Mar 07 09:43 |
| gnufreex | They could use Freescale | Mar 07 09:43 |
| gnufreex | But they don't have gpu | Mar 07 09:43 |
| gnufreex | PowerVR also do't have free drivers | Mar 07 09:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: btw | Mar 07 09:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not really right to call it an nvidia gpu | Mar 07 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | nvidia bought those arm gpus through buying a company | Mar 07 09:47 |
| gnufreex | It has GPU on SoC | Mar 07 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not related to actual geforces at all | Mar 07 09:47 |
| gnufreex | oh thatr | Mar 07 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, geforces are pretty shitty, but these are worse | Mar 07 09:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're really inferior to powervrs | Mar 07 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/pcWcL | Mar 07 09:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont know why anyone is building on the tegra platform | Mar 07 09:48 |
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| Diablo-D3 | its a pile of shit all around | Mar 07 09:48 |
| gnufreex | I thought it had couple of GF shaders | Mar 07 09:48 |
| gnufreex | But it seems you'r right | Mar 07 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | not quite | Mar 07 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're kind of backro-genering their own shit | Mar 07 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | to make it suck less | Mar 07 09:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | they'd be better off making an ultra-ulv geforce | Mar 07 09:49 |
| gnufreex | But still, no free driver? | Mar 07 09:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, you wont see a free driver outside of powervr | Mar 07 09:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | and google is trying to make a big push though the mesa community for a free powervr driver | Mar 07 09:49 |
| gnufreex | There is free driver in the works for Qualcom snapdragon | Mar 07 09:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | and by "big push" I mean shouting through a megaphone until they get it | Mar 07 09:50 |
| gnufreex | That uses some GPU that starts with A | Mar 07 09:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: yeah but fuck snapdragons | Mar 07 09:50 |
| gnufreex | Adreno | Mar 07 09:50 |
| gnufreex | That's name of GPU | Mar 07 09:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hate Adrenos | Mar 07 09:50 |
| gnufreex | They bought that from AMD | Mar 07 09:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but amd bought it from someone else | Mar 07 09:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, ati did | Mar 07 09:51 |
| gnufreex | I don't know much about embeded GPUs.. | Mar 07 09:51 |
| gnufreex | Is there any more companies? | Mar 07 09:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | ati bought somebody, it became the ati imageon, then amd bought ati, then amd sold it to qualcomm | Mar 07 09:51 |
| gnufreex | I know just about those | Mar 07 09:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | the same way the goforce is absolutely not related to geforces, the imageon isnt a radeon | Mar 07 09:52 |
| gnufreex | Matrox could make embeded GPU, they fall behind on everytging, you would think they can use smallest manufacturing process posible and it would fit in cell phone :-) | Mar 07 09:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 09:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 09:53 |
| gnufreex | It is crappy | Mar 07 09:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is probably going to destroy that entire market | Mar 07 09:53 |
| gnufreex | So it fits | Mar 07 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and no, you're just describing the powervr evolution | Mar 07 09:54 |
| gnufreex | Fusion is x86 | Mar 07 09:54 |
| gnufreex | sucks | Mar 07 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | fusion is quasi-x86 | Mar 07 09:54 |
| MinceR | what, fusion will ship with drivers that work? :> | Mar 07 09:54 |
| gnufreex | how do you mean quasi | Mar 07 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: erm, it had working drivers before fusion existed | Mar 07 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: fusion uses almost normal 5xxx cores | Mar 07 09:55 |
| gnufreex | it is full x86 | Mar 07 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: AMD is extremely good at making a fast small x86 decoder | Mar 07 09:55 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: he hates x86 and is an amd fan, so it can't be x86, obviously :> | Mar 07 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and they may end up just making the K10 RISC language accessable in future versions | Mar 07 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | its already accessable in some products, just not consumer ones | Mar 07 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and ARM is kind of shit now | Mar 07 09:56 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 dream on | Mar 07 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont like how it evolved | Mar 07 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | dream on what? | Mar 07 09:56 |
| MinceR | nobody cares what you like :> | Mar 07 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize K7, K8, and K10 are all RISC cores, right? | Mar 07 09:56 |
| gnufreex | They will not make RISC acessible | Mar 07 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they already _did_ make it accessible | Mar 07 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 09:56 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 I know it is RISC core | Mar 07 09:56 |
| gnufreex | But it is not full | Mar 07 09:56 |
| gnufreex | it is very crappy RISC core | Mar 07 09:57 |
| gnufreex | mutated and all | Mar 07 09:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not crappy at all] | Mar 07 09:57 |
| gnufreex | It is not real RISC. | Mar 07 09:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, its even realer RISC than ARM is | Mar 07 09:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only instructions that exist are for hardware features | Mar 07 09:57 |
| gnufreex | It is like when you bread elephant and a snake | Mar 07 09:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | if the hardware does not explicitly do it, theres no op for it | Mar 07 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/3/2011: Forbes Says Microsoft’s Market Share is Down to 75%, Linux 2.6.38 is Coming, Xoom Reviews Out http://ur1.ca/3ev0v | Mar 07 09:58 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | the x86 decoder is part of the instruction scheduler frontend, its not part of the core. | Mar 07 09:58 |
| gnufreex | So, how many registers core really has? | Mar 07 09:58 |
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| Diablo-D3 | well, earlier K8s have something like 40 | Mar 07 09:58 |
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| Diablo-D3 | K10s have upped it | Mar 07 09:59 |
| MinceR | afaik RISC is supposed to have simpler instruction scheduling than that | Mar 07 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: simple is the wrong word | Mar 07 09:59 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Mar 07 09:59 | |
| gnufreex | x86 can only see 16 registers in long mode (x86-64) | Mar 07 09:59 |
| gnufreex | and 8 in 32-bit mode | Mar 07 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: it can see 16 normal registers, sure | Mar 07 09:59 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 cubexyz MinceR | Mar 07 09:59 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to tessier_ | Mar 07 09:59 | |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Mar 07 09:59 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but you forgot SSE2 registers | Mar 07 09:59 |
| gnufreex | screw SSE | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | ... | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | you fail at CPU design forever. | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow, all the registers seen from the x86 side are all virtualized | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | SSE should not be in core | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | That is x86 brainfuck | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're just instructions | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | NEON if off core | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | VIS is off core | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | altiVec is off core | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | AMD does not have a core for SSE | Mar 07 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just instructions. | Mar 07 10:00 |
| gnufreex | That is what I am saying | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt do the Intel brainfuck by dedicating a whole ALU subsystem for it | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, what you're saying is you fail at CPU design | Mar 07 10:01 |
| gnufreex | They have SSE in normal core | Mar 07 10:01 |
| gnufreex | integrated | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, because SSE _is normal instructions_ | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing to intergrate | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is no special hardware in the RISC core for SSE. | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | none. | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | at. | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | all. | Mar 07 10:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | its decoded by the instruction decoder and properly scheduled for an optimized case. | Mar 07 10:02 |
| gnufreex | It has separate pipeline | Mar 07 10:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope, it actually doesnt | Mar 07 10:02 |
| gnufreex | and it is pretty separated in every RISC | Mar 07 10:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize the RISC core has like 4 ALUs, right? | Mar 07 10:03 |
| gnufreex | not every | Mar 07 10:03 |
| gnufreex | but yes | Mar 07 10:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, Im talking the K10 here | Mar 07 10:03 |
| gnufreex | oh | Mar 07 10:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | the scheduler just farms them out | Mar 07 10:03 |
| gnufreex | I was talking about general RISC designs | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why ARM fails, btw | Mar 07 10:04 |
| gnufreex | I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:01:40] <gnufreex> I actually have no clue what AMD did | Mar 07 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | you may now shut the fuck up. | Mar 07 10:04 |
| gnufreex | I won't shut the fuck up | Mar 07 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you dont understand how the K10 is designed, then you have no right to say shit about it. | Mar 07 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | Guess what asshat, its better designed than that abortion ARM is peddling | Mar 07 10:05 |
| gnufreex | I know that all RISCx86 hybrids are fucked up | Mar 07 10:05 |
| gnufreex | All | Mar 07 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | The only thing AMD needs to do is sell the core naked decoupled from the x86 decoder | Mar 07 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its not a hybrid | Mar 07 10:05 |
| MinceR | but they don't do that | Mar 07 10:06 |
| gnufreex | It won't work. | Mar 07 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are decade old super computing clusters that use them in K8 RISC mode | Mar 07 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they're quite happy with them | Mar 07 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | gcc even has a native target for them, and linux boots on them | Mar 07 10:06 |
| gnufreex | hmm | Mar 07 10:06 |
| gnufreex | I must try that. | Mar 07 10:07 |
| gnufreex | Where can I find it? | Mar 07 10:07 |
| MinceR | how do they switch the k8 into risc mode? is it like switching to protected mode? | Mar 07 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | you need a special bios for it | Mar 07 10:07 |
| gnufreex | Where is it? | Mar 07 10:07 |
| MinceR | pft | Mar 07 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: its on boards you cant buy. | Mar 07 10:07 |
| gnufreex | Oh.. | Mar 07 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | only people who buy them from AMD get to have that. | Mar 07 10:07 |
| gnufreex | so you are bullshiting me | Mar 07 10:07 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Mar 07 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | so unless you're ordering a 5000 cpu cluster, nope, not yours. | Mar 07 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | not at all | Mar 07 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not for consumers | Mar 07 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said that about 10 mintues ago | Mar 07 10:08 |
| gnufreex | ok | Mar 07 10:08 |
| gnufreex | I thought I will have some fun | Mar 07 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | but almost all the AMD clusters on the top 500 are not running in x86 mode | Mar 07 10:08 |
| MinceR | that can hardly be called "accessible", can it? | Mar 07 10:08 |
| gnufreex | Have one Phenom II here, but no | Mar 07 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: what gnufreex was saying is AMD never did this | Mar 07 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | and AMD already did | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | except not really | Mar 07 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | [04:53:42] <Diablo-D3> the boat sailed on that. | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | only to special customers | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | meanwhile ARM is RISC to all users | Mar 07 10:09 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: Do you have some links and such. I wana see tests | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | i think that is the point here | Mar 07 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM is barely RISC at all now | Mar 07 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | look at what they did to it | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | i know what they did to it | Mar 07 10:09 |
| MinceR | they basically helped the bandwidth issue :> | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | ARM11, A8, and A9 is ungodly horrid | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a giant ugly chip | Mar 07 10:10 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 yes, Urlich Drreper agrees with you. | Mar 07 10:10 |
| gnufreex | "embeded crap" | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: wow, nice insult there | Mar 07 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | go fuck yourself | Mar 07 10:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 10:11 |
| gnufreex | I am not insulting you | Mar 07 10:11 |
| gnufreex | ok, maybe a little | Mar 07 10:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think you're aware how much I hate Drepper | Mar 07 10:11 |
| gnufreex | I am not | Mar 07 10:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | You are now. | Mar 07 10:11 |
| gnufreex | give some AMD links | Mar 07 10:12 |
| gnufreex | I want to see that RISC mode | Mar 07 10:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | do it yourself. | Mar 07 10:12 |
| gnufreex | I just get links about AM2900 | Mar 07 10:13 |
| gnufreex | Google doesn't know about that thing you talk about | Mar 07 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | hmm googles useless | Mar 07 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ask nenolod about it | Mar 07 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think he might have a copy of the gcc patches too, Im not sure | Mar 07 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 named #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/19ghB | Mar 07 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 10:14 | |
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| gnufreex | Wikipedia and Google don't know about it. | Mar 07 10:16 |
| gnufreex | And I don't know how to find nenolod | Mar 07 10:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | .... | Mar 07 10:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're fucking me | Mar 07 10:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | oneiric ocelot? | Mar 07 10:17 |
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| *Diablo-D3 blows up shuttlecock | Mar 07 10:17 | |
| Diablo-D3 | this man needs to be stopped | Mar 07 10:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | before he destroys linux any further | Mar 07 10:17 |
| gnufreex | Who? | Mar 07 10:18 |
| gnufreex | YOu don't make any senses | Mar 07 10:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:11:41] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.10 Codename Announced: Oneiric Ocelot http://bit.ly/htITaY | Mar 07 10:18 |
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| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock | Mar 07 10:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | needs to be stopped | Mar 07 10:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all costs | Mar 07 10:18 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 10:18 |
| gnufreex | Shuttleworthless | Mar 07 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock is better | Mar 07 10:19 |
| gnufreex | But it is impolite | Mar 07 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | shuttlecock == a tiny little peice of plastic you beat with a racket | Mar 07 10:19 |
| gnufreex | Ahh | Mar 07 10:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.timvansant.com/otoh/photo/shuttlecock.jpg | Mar 07 10:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 10:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | what a shuttlecock might look like | Mar 07 10:20 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badminton | Mar 07 10:20 |
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| MinceR | and its arch enemy, Goodminton | Mar 07 10:21 |
| gnufreex | lol | Mar 07 10:22 |
| gnufreex | We better think something that is really "impolite" since shuttlecock is politeness zealot. | Mar 07 10:22 |
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| MinceR | more like politeness hypocrite | Mar 07 10:23 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. | Mar 07 10:23 |
| gnufreex | Saying "Fedora is RHEL's open core" makes him like Bill Gates when said "nobody can improve GPL software". Lying with straight face. | Mar 07 10:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Mar 07 10:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I would like to say thats full of shit | Mar 07 10:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Fedora is RHEL without the enterprise support | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | so | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | ? | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | no, that's CentOS | Mar 07 10:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite | Mar 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | Fedora is the testing to RHEL's stable :> | Mar 07 10:25 |
| gnufreex | Fedoa is oposite of open core | Mar 07 10:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 10:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets try this a different way | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | Rhel is subset of Fedora | Mar 07 10:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel isnt closed. | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | They take out stuff. | Mar 07 10:26 |
| MinceR | fedora doesn't even have the 'hide your work' policy to kernel patches | Mar 07 10:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | open core implies its paired with closed source shit | Mar 07 10:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | rhel is open. | Mar 07 10:26 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 That is what I am saying. RHEL is open. Shuttlewroth says it is closed. | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats irony | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | ubuntu is closed | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they ship with mono in the default install | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono is closed source | Mar 07 10:27 |
| gnufreex | Mono is bait source | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | its closed source. | Mar 07 10:27 |
| MinceR | it's nonfree | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | its more nonfree than normal nonfree | Mar 07 10:27 |
| gnufreex | If it was closed, we would not have problems | Mar 07 10:27 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | nonfree stuff usually doesnt get you sued. | Mar 07 10:27 |
| gnufreex | It would be out | Mar 07 10:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono WILL get you seud | Mar 07 10:28 |
| gnufreex | I hope Attackmate close it. | Mar 07 10:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft can sue you just for _using_ it as an end user | Mar 07 10:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is why Java isnt the same thing... | Mar 07 10:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant fight Java. | Mar 07 10:28 |
| MinceR | patent lawsuits can apply to the user? | Mar 07 10:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java isnt a Sun product | Mar 07 10:28 |
| MinceR | java is an obstacle product | Mar 07 10:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a product of the java community | Mar 07 10:28 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 Problem with Mono is that it won't get you sued. It will get you bullied. | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java belongs to Apache, Jboss, and everyone else too | Mar 07 10:29 |
| gnufreex | MSFT has no guts to sue. | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no Mono Community Process | Mar 07 10:29 |
| gnufreex | They want to bully ad infinitum | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is why Mono will always be closed source: no one fights for it | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its patentware, and no one cares | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Mono is of no value | Mar 07 10:29 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: i think they'll have to back up their threats eventually | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | we already have Java, and it works better; why do we need a slower more bloated clone? | Mar 07 10:29 |
| MinceR | with a lawsuit | Mar 07 10:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and btw, yes, you CAN be sued, as a user | Mar 07 10:30 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it was Not Invented Here, obviously. | Mar 07 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft just has to make up shit | Mar 07 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | and also, there are no non-MS impls of C# | Mar 07 10:30 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft is like insecure fat kid that bullies everyone. eventually someone kicks his ass and fatso goes crying to momy. | Mar 07 10:30 |
| MinceR | they still infringe | Mar 07 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres at least 5 fully functional JVMs out there | Mar 07 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | apache harmony and dalvik being two of them | Mar 07 10:31 |
| MinceR | if not core "c#", then the libraries | Mar 07 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] thanks to !fsfe's new intern @natalissy "#Democracy requires !freesoftware" now available in Russian http://ur1.ca/3eve9 | Mar 07 10:31 | |
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| MinceR | google is being sued for dalvik, though | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, using invalid patents | Mar 07 10:31 |
| MinceR | kind of puts a damper on java's openness | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | but this is what I was saying | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is standing up for Mono | Mar 07 10:31 |
| MinceR | it's not as bad as mono, but it's still pretty bad | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | because Mono does, and always will belong to Microsoft | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle == Microsoft | Mar 07 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the same fucking shit | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | rich people trying to destroy the hard work of others | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | Java is 10 years of hard work | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | not just by Sun, but by Java coders everywhere | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | when Sun GPL'ed it, that was Sun's promise to everyone that Java will be forever | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle cant destroy that | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a one way trip | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | patents cant stop Java | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Oracle is the enemy of Java | Mar 07 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | the moment Sun did that, Sun gave Java to everyone | Mar 07 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle is trying to go door to door and barge in and grab it back | Mar 07 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is why sw patents need to be wiped out | Mar 07 10:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Classroom: Summary of Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/wnlYM | Mar 07 10:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: Last day of !Ubuntu Developer Week http://goo.gl/FKUlz | Mar 07 10:34 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | not because of cases like Mono, but cases like Java | Mar 07 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last day of UDW | Daniel Holbach’s blog .::. Size~: 22.11 KB | Mar 07 10:34 |
| MinceR | indeed, it is one of the reasons | Mar 07 10:34 |
| MinceR | but mono is another reason, VFAT is yet another | Mar 07 10:35 |
| MinceR | the MPEG-LA cartel is yet another | Mar 07 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Mar 07 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | mpeg-la is fucked | Mar 07 10:35 |
| MinceR | it's not fucked fast enough | Mar 07 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | DoJ is thinking about smacking them around a bit and make them their bitch | Mar 07 10:35 |
| MinceR | they're still around and they can still do damage | Mar 07 10:35 |
| MinceR | i doubt that an organ of a bitch of the megacorps owning the cartel can really do that | Mar 07 10:36 |
| gnufreex | Larry horn needs to go to jail | Mar 07 10:36 |
| MinceR | m$ and crApple will just tell their puppets what to do to the DoJ | Mar 07 10:36 |
| MinceR | (maybe directly the main puppet, obama) | Mar 07 10:36 |
| gnufreex | I think that every company that passes 50bn in revenue should be split | Mar 07 10:37 |
| gnufreex | Megacorporations make huge problems | Mar 07 10:37 |
| MinceR | they'd just cook the books to make revenue seem smaller | Mar 07 10:37 |
| gnufreex | HP should be split, MS should be split, IBM should be split. No exception | Mar 07 10:37 |
| gnufreex | Or find some other metrics | Mar 07 10:37 |
| MinceR | i think the people should not be prevented from forming armed mobs to kill people like ballmer and larry | Mar 07 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | has anyone seen working Pidgin 2.7.x packages for EL 6? | Mar 07 10:38 |
| *DaemonFC scratches his head | Mar 07 10:38 | |
| gnufreex | Did you look EPEL? | Mar 07 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | EPEL has Pidgin Plugin Pack for Pidgin 2.6.6 | Mar 07 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | which comes with RHEL | Mar 07 10:40 |
| MinceR | what's EL/EPEL? | Mar 07 10:40 |
| *gnufreex don't use RHEL6 yet | Mar 07 10:40 | |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Mar 07 10:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the metric is | Mar 07 10:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | is the company actively harming smaller companies | Mar 07 10:40 |
| gnufreex | Extra packages for Enterprise Linux MinceR | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | if so | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | split | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Enterprise Linux / Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | and as much as you guys bitch | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its rare companies need to be split | Mar 07 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] March Newsletter: Facebook failed revolution, legal news, a lot of love, Document Freedom Day and much more! http://link.fsfe.org/BZ6hxl | Mar 07 10:41 | |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 07 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSFE Newsletter - March 2011 .::. Size~: 11.89 KB | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MS shouldnt be split because they ARENT a monopoly | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | on anything | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | at all | Mar 07 10:41 |
| MinceR | well, m$ doesn't need to be split, it needs to be dissolved | Mar 07 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont sell the most video game machines | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 1, don't use AtRPMS | Mar 07 10:41 |
| MinceR | their assets should be used to offset the damage they've caused | Mar 07 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Tip 2, Use RPM Forge instead :) | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont have the most "normal" computers running their OS | Mar 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | and for the rest of the damage, their upper management should be sent into penal servitude | Mar 07 10:42 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 how come not a monopoly? | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: see above | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft just isnt relevant | Mar 07 10:42 |
| *DaemonFC has AtRPMs there but disabled for a few odd packages | Mar 07 10:42 | |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not sure if it ever was | Mar 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | they still keep causing damage | Mar 07 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | it tries to take over your system | Mar 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | remember that mobile phone maker called nokia? | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cause damage, sure | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats about it | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | they need to be slammed for that | Mar 07 10:42 |
| MinceR | m$ needs to be dissolved so that they can't keep causing damage | Mar 07 10:42 |
| gnufreex | They have a monopoly on WIndows | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they're not Bell | Mar 07 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres nothing TO split | Mar 07 10:43 |
| MinceR | and so that they can't keep corrupting governments | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: windows is just an os | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | most normal computers dont run windows. | Mar 07 10:43 |
| gnufreex | Yes, and some people think Windows is computer | Mar 07 10:43 |
| gnufreex | So Microsoft has monopoly on some people's minds | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | some people think Ford is made in America | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | what do stupid people have to do with this? | Mar 07 10:43 |
| gnufreex | So that is a crime | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | the reality is | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is not important | Mar 07 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not have a majority in anything useful | Mar 07 10:43 |
| MinceR | m$ is an important threat | Mar 07 10:44 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft dumbed those people | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: no, they were born dumb | Mar 07 10:44 |
| gnufreex | Their propaganda | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont blame Microsoft for making people dumb | Mar 07 10:44 |
| MinceR | and so is crApple | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft only took advantage of it | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | Windows in normal computers us probably less than a third. | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | *is | Mar 07 10:44 |
| MinceR | and so is obstacle | Mar 07 10:44 |
| gnufreex | Taking advantage of mentaly retarded is crime | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: now that I agree with | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | but these people arent conisidered invalids | Mar 07 10:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | so theres no way there | Mar 07 10:45 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: depends on who you ask | Mar 07 10:45 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft made them invalid with Windows. | Mar 07 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: ... | Mar 07 10:45 |
| *Diablo-D3 whacks gnufreex with a bat | Mar 07 10:45 | |
| *gnufreex whacks Diablo back | Mar 07 10:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | we can have a nice conversation, or we can act like blind FOSS zealots | Mar 07 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is no different than any other large company | Mar 07 10:46 |
| gnufreex | sorry, I was just practicing | Mar 07 10:46 |
| MinceR | actually they are | Mar 07 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do not provide anything of use, they make a lot of money, and they try to abuse the system in their favor. | Mar 07 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're not a Bell or a Standard Oil | Mar 07 10:46 |
| MinceR | they've abused their monopolies much harder than others and they had monopolies over much more important fields | Mar 07 10:46 |
| gnufreex | Is there a way to set spell checker in Quassell? | Mar 07 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not really | Mar 07 10:46 |
| MinceR | computers control most modern technology, m$ nearly gained control of all of that | Mar 07 10:46 |
| gnufreex | I am tired of typos | Mar 07 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're _nothing_ compared to other industries | Mar 07 10:47 |
| MinceR | other industries depend on IT | Mar 07 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: and, in the end, they didnt. | Mar 07 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, most normal computers dont run windows | Mar 07 10:47 |
| MinceR | it was a close shot | Mar 07 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | anda ll the not-normal computers? NONE do. | Mar 07 10:47 |
| MinceR | i don't think that humanity should keep risking such things | Mar 07 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | does your car run windows? or your microsoft? what about your tv? bluray player? nuclear power plant? | Mar 07 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | even your cell phone doesnt. | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | imagine what would have happened if they managed to implement and push Palladium like they imagined it | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | some cars do | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | not mine, of course | Mar 07 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car doesnt | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | bmw did put winblows ce on some of their cars | Mar 07 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | some sort of interactive panel device runs a hacked up version of winmo | Mar 07 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | and winmo isnt windows | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | that's about as idiotic as it gets when it comes to car design | Mar 07 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | your car doesnt crash because winmo does. | Mar 07 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking car radio | Mar 07 10:48 |
| MinceR | no, it's a lot more than a car radio | Mar 07 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | or a gps device | Mar 07 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt _do_ anything of importants | Mar 07 10:49 |
| MinceR | it takes over a lot of the controls in the car | Mar 07 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really | Mar 07 10:49 |
| MinceR | it controls the heater and the AC, for example | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | now imagine driving with fully fogged windows | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem so safe, does it? | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | all it does is pass through the stuff on a dumb serial connection | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDrive | Mar 07 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Mar 07 10:50 |
| MinceR | "allows the driver and front-seat passenger (in recent cars it is available to back-seat passengers as well) to control such amenities as the climate (air conditioner and heater)," | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | and heres the fun part | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive never seen it. | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | ever. | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns bizzaro shit like this | Mar 07 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and btw | Mar 07 10:51 |
| MinceR | well, no one i know owns a bmw | Mar 07 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | that has to pass the law. | Mar 07 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | if theres actually a legitimate issue with it, it would have never been sold | Mar 07 10:51 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: the law doesn't really apply to rich people and companies. | Mar 07 10:51 |
| MinceR | haven't you noticed? | Mar 07 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | the car's computer itself runs normal car software | Mar 07 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: not quite. | Mar 07 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | because the OTHER companies paid for these laws | Mar 07 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | the current state of car laws is to drive foreign manufacturers out of the US | Mar 07 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you think the media and the government attacked toyota so hard for a problem that didnt exist | Mar 07 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | because they're made in America and the best cars in the world | Mar 07 10:52 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: because it's usian media and toyota is japanese | Mar 07 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: see | Mar 07 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the hilarity | Mar 07 10:53 |
| MinceR | yanks were desperate because their two darling car companies were struggling | Mar 07 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want American, you buy Toyota. | Mar 07 10:53 |
| MinceR | because they couldn't come up with cars that didn't fucking suck | Mar 07 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you want Mexican, you buy Ford, Chrysler, or GM | Mar 07 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the laws exist to attack foreign car companies | Mar 07 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | so yes | Mar 07 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | if there was an actual real problem with idrive | Mar 07 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wouldnt have been in production | Mar 07 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and EU car laws are even worse than US ones | Mar 07 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: oh, and these giant car panels? | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they may be in violation of the law anyhow | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | even our "domestic" cars | Mar 07 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta Fair enough. Not that anyone from that high up in Canonical would talk to me, but I guess you're on record now. | Mar 07 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mjasay @jspaleta You gotta understand that it looked a bit suspicious from the outside... | Mar 07 10:56 | |
| Diablo-D3 | so the issue becomes increasingly moot | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | but lets go back to what we were really talking about | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has to _lie_ to appear they have a majority | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | let that sink in a bit | Mar 07 10:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they are LYING about their majority | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the implication is, THEY DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: you're overlooking that the idrive was a vector to ship usian crap | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | winblows ce | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the money to be made is in all kinds embedded shit, in enterprise, in shit like that | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft doesnt exist there. | Mar 07 10:57 |
| MinceR | of course they won't pick an issue over that | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure, theres wince/winmo/winphone7 | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | but no one owns shit with that in it | Mar 07 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | people run linux and vxworks on shit | Mar 07 10:58 |
| MinceR | i'll go eat lunch because the company network is fucked | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | dvd/bluray players, and mp3 players, and tvs, and cars, and routers, and whatever | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | they run linux or vxworks | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | military weapons run vxworks | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | sats run vxworks | Mar 07 10:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] https://apps.mozillalabs.com/appdir/ | Mar 07 10:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla : App Directory .::. Size~: 2.29 KB | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | cell phones are blackberry or linux or whatever | Mar 07 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | game machines, 360 is virtually a failure | Mar 07 11:00 |
| *gnufreex thinks vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 11:00 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its all wii or DS or ps3 | Mar 07 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one owns a fucking 360 | Mar 07 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | in all the things that are important for making money | Mar 07 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in none of them | Mar 07 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 11:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured Patent Laws Against US Companies | Techdirt .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Mar 07 11:01 |
| gnufreex | vxworks is now owned by Intel, so it is dead | Mar 07 11:01 |
| gnufreex | They will put intelisms | Mar 07 11:01 |
| gnufreex | Make it slow on ARM | Mar 07 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Mar 07 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter if vxworks is overrated | Mar 07 11:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | the fact is its not microsoft's | Mar 07 11:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kinect Controlled Delta-Robot - http://bit.ly/gGHpxi with a dash of #arduino | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| Diablo-D3 | everytime you see the missile camera plow into a terrorist? microsoft had nothing to do with that. | Mar 07 11:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arduino Blog » Blog Archive » Kinect Controlled Delta-Robot .::. Size~: 32.11 KB | Mar 07 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: and btw, vxworks is a _b_illion dollar industry | Mar 07 11:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | and even if intel did own it, they are so deep under contract they couldnt touch it | Mar 07 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | vxworks is what makes the most mission critical of shit function | Mar 07 11:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh the strong emotion of hate reinforced with passion makes that statement quite biblic :) | Mar 07 11:04 | |
| Diablo-D3 | there are competitors, of course | Mar 07 11:04 |
| gnufreex | Nucleus | Mar 07 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | but all the competitors arent owned by microsoft either. | Mar 07 11:05 |
| gnufreex | QNX | Mar 07 11:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they dont install QNX on sats and military hardware. | Mar 07 11:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | or nuclear power plants | Mar 07 11:05 |
| gnufreex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleus_OS | Mar 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Mar 07 11:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Three announces unlimited data for Pay-As-You-Go customers - http://bit.ly/ed8ytY but unlimited unlimited, or just unlimited? #mobile #data | Mar 07 11:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Three announces unlimited data for Pay-As-You-Go customers .::. Size~: 85.87 KB | Mar 07 11:06 |
| gnufreex | We need something like that to be FLOSS. | Mar 07 11:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | bleh | Mar 07 11:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | all thats boring shit | Mar 07 11:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | every single thing on that list can be ran with linux | Mar 07 11:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | except that defibrillator at the bottom | Mar 07 11:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd rather that be vxworks | Mar 07 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | The Infineon S-Gold2 baseband chip used in Apple's iPhone[9] | Mar 07 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | LOL | Mar 07 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: but you're missing the point | Mar 07 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft has no way in. | Mar 07 11:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | the most lucrative technology markets are extreme computing (military/space/extremely mission critical), high end enterprise, and games. | Mar 07 11:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has nothing for the first two, and the last one they failed twice | Mar 07 11:08 |
| gnufreex | They said that for servers | Mar 07 11:08 |
| gnufreex | And they pushed their incompetentce into servers | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is in low end enterprise a tiny bit, but not enough to really bother mentioning | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | its almost all linux there | Mar 07 11:09 |
| gnufreex | They have more than 50% servers | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | and on home computing on the PCs themselves.... thats about it. | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: nope. | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | not even close. | Mar 07 11:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moving beyond the #Microsoft #monoculture - http://bit.ly/hcL7Nq it's the end of an era - but problems will linger on | Mar 07 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Protocols mangling... http://xkcd.com/869/ ;-) | Mar 07 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTC reportedly secures 1 million orders for HTC Flyer - http://bit.ly/i7P4BJ just the start #android #htc | Mar 07 11:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moving beyond the Microsoft monoculture - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Mar 07 11:09 |
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| Diablo-D3 | on any actual enterprise, its hard to find windows. | Mar 07 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | its on the sub-enterprise shit windows floats around | Mar 07 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | just because you're a company with 20 people and have a LAN box doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 11:10 |
| gnufreex | I am not talking "true scotsmen" enterprise, that is hard to define | Mar 07 11:10 |
| gnufreex | Servefs | Mar 07 11:10 |
| gnufreex | *servers | Mar 07 11:10 |
| gnufreex | they have 50% | Mar 07 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | servers makes no sense | Mar 07 11:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | lots of people claim to have servers and dont. | Mar 07 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured #Patent Laws Against US Companies - http://bit.ly/eabEh8 yup | Mar 07 11:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Be Careful What You Wish For: Taiwan Using US Pressured Patent Laws Against US Companies | Techdirt .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Mar 07 11:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said, just because you have 20 people and a "server" doesnt mean you're enterprise. | Mar 07 11:11 |
| gnufreex | people talked that Windows Server will never sell. And by technical merit, it shouldn't. | Mar 07 11:12 |
| gnufreex | But they made 15bn last year | Mar 07 11:12 |
| gnufreex | from STB division | Mar 07 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | which means nothing. | Mar 07 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | imagine if Linux wasnt free | Mar 07 11:13 |
| gnufreex | It means they pushed their Jihad over comon reason. | Mar 07 11:13 |
| gnufreex | People shouldn't touch their crap | Mar 07 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'd be hundreds of billions | Mar 07 11:13 |
| gnufreex | And they are forced | Mar 07 11:13 |
| gnufreex | By HP and such | Mar 07 11:13 |
| gnufreex | and Dell | Mar 07 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe trillions | Mar 07 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: not true | Mar 07 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | Dell and HP both sell Linux on their enterprise shit | Mar 07 11:14 |
| gnufreex | They sell, but they "recomend" windows | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont really recommend anything | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sell computers | Mar 07 11:14 |
| gnufreex | Go on site. | Mar 07 11:14 |
| gnufreex | Big letters | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares about "a site" | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a fucking template | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one cares | Mar 07 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one is buying windows on the server | Mar 07 11:15 |
| gnufreex | "Life without walls - Windows 7" | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | so | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | the ONLY place | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | the _ONLY_ place | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft ever took off | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | was on the desktop | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | which makes no real money | Mar 07 11:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have no clue how Microsoft got so big, but it wasnt from selling Windows. | Mar 07 11:15 |
| gnufreex | I tihnk it is stiupidest marketing phrase ever | Mar 07 11:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | all marketing phrases are stupid | Mar 07 11:16 |
| gnufreex | Where you put Windows 7 if you don't have wall? | Mar 07 11:16 |
| gnufreex | Nobody will put it on computer | Mar 07 11:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: maybe its some sort of all glass house | Mar 07 11:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How To Add MinimizeAnd Maximize Buttons Back In Gnome Shell ~ Web Upd8 http://ping.fm/ijUV3 | Mar 07 11:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really wish Facebook and Skype weren't going to work together http://ping.fm/elnsG | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I'm guessing you're taking my joke it a bit more seriously than I ever expected. I'm sorry to have irked you :) | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook Said To Resume Talks With Skype - Slashdot .::. Size~: 54.26 KB | Mar 07 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh full ack, agree and subscribe. :) Did you ever read asimov's short story Nightfall? Interesting view on religion there :) | Mar 07 11:29 | |
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| gnufreex | Nothing runs on that | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they're not compatible largely. | Mar 07 11:32 |
| gnufreex | so it is waste of resources to test | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a specification. | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | as I said above | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have an op for everything the hw does | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no ops for things the hardware doesnt do. | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if they remove something, the op goes | Mar 07 11:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they add something, they add an op | Mar 07 11:32 |
| gnufreex | Yeah but Buldozer is significant redesign. I think K7 to K10 had pretty same design. | Mar 07 11:32 |
| gnufreex | But bulldozer is way different | Mar 07 11:32 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Mar 07 11:48 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Mar 07 11:48 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Mar 07 11:48 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Mar 07 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Coming soon: Ubuntu Herpderp | Mar 07 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And I thought "Lovelock" was a shit name..... LOL | Mar 07 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh meh I reckon you didn't :) | Mar 07 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Crowdsourced is not #OpenSource - http://bit.ly/dGwMbi "they are very different, most importantly in the ownership of the outcome" | Mar 07 11:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ☆ Crowdsourced is not Open Source « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 52.67 KB | Mar 07 11:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Towards Pirate Parties International Conference - http://bit.ly/hdHI6v a few places left, apparently | Mar 07 11:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ghana Photographer telling Africa's story through his lens: Independence Day Celebration in Pictures http://ping.fm/WTet3 | Mar 07 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Towards Pirate Parties International Conference - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 52.36 KB | Mar 07 11:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ghana Photographer telling Africa's story through his lens: Independence Day Celebration in Pictures .::. Size~: 54.18 KB | Mar 07 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Has Domination, #Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vapourware #win8 #android | Mar 07 11:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.13 KB | Mar 07 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware http://ur1.ca/3ewdb #vaporware #windows8 | Mar 07 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #BSA (Microsoft Front), MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds | Mar 07 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BSA, MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play http://ur1.ca/3ewds #swpats | Mar 07 11:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Has Domination, Microsoft Has Vapourware | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.13 KB | Mar 07 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BSA (Microsoft Front), MPEG Cartel (Backed by Microsoft and Apple), and Gates Foundation Under Scrutiny for Patent Play | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.48 KB | Mar 07 11:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving houses. Will be back online ASAP. #Sidenote | Mar 07 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] In case you missed it like I did... Nicely done Free Software advertising video: Linspotting http://vimeo.com/15474925 | Mar 07 12:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linspotting on Vimeo .::. Size~: 59.3 KB | Mar 07 12:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon outlines !Android bill of rights at the Register http://ping.fm/dKKJ1 | Mar 07 12:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon outlines Android bill of rights • The Register .::. Size~: 22.45 KB | Mar 07 12:03 |
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