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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Wow, my feelings go to the country of the rising sun, 8.9 ritcher #quake + really bad tsunamis. :| #japan | Mar 11 00:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: A Decade of Freedom: #FSFE turns 10 this month http://ur1.ca/3gbnr | Mar 11 00:05 | |
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| speexbTniPA | PGP turns 20 this year | Mar 11 00:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #HP's desktop plans for #WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts - http://bit.ly/eF9JCj I'm sceptical, but it would be nice... #linux | Mar 11 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @royhugo: ♺ @softmetz: Happy Birthday #fsfe. 10 years of freedom. | Mar 11 00:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the QML march continues! http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/10/qml-components-for-desktop | Mar 11 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: complete text of the US proposal for the #Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (#TPP) chapter - http://bit.ly/eKe5BU | Mar 11 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just found out that a huge #earthquake hit the pacific, if you have anyone there(japan especially) you should probably see if they're ok... | Mar 11 00:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Movie Studio Goes After Self-Proclaimed Pirate, His Unicorn and Leprechaun - http://bit.ly/ijLaaY humourless, bullying twits | Mar 11 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gucci is advertising on the #yogscast channel. Audience FAIL. | Mar 11 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] DraftSight for #Linux is now in beta! - http://bit.ly/eCaFIp alas, only free as in beer, but it's still good news for ecosystem #cad | Mar 11 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On Ensemble and LALUGs release concert CD burning system - http://bit.ly/gkWb3R #freesw & and free content: nice | Mar 11 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] "[webOs can enable] HP to reduce its dependence on [MSFT] while also reducing prices for its customers." http://ur1.ca/3gqc7 <wasn't clear? | Mar 11 00:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just generated a new !LO server map:http://alain.sixgun.org/map/ | Mar 11 00:42 | |
| speexbTniPA | what is this 'freedombox' ? | Mar 11 00:48 |
| speexbTniPA | http://freedomboxfoundation.org/FAQ/ | Mar 11 00:48 |
| speexbTniPA | there is more info about the foundation than about the box | Mar 11 00:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Charity http://xkcd.com/871/ | Mar 11 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: ALT+F2 returns to !Unity – looking rather swish http://goo.gl/YPNKD | Mar 11 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hell yeah! "Let's do this the yogscast way!" :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-ZMTRK64g&feature=player_detailpage#t=484s | Mar 11 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Android Developers blog: Renderscript Part 2 http://goo.gl/t5z5I | Mar 11 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Smaller !Unity Launcher with intellihide = nice. http://goo.gl/WCXQa | Mar 11 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I must say that the palm Pre^3 is quite cool. The wireless charger in particular. I love competition! | Mar 11 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Japan Tsunami: What To Do If It Affects You http://goo.gl/sutp2 | Mar 11 00:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Randall Ross: !Unity: A Form Letter For Computer Journalists http://goo.gl/a7sLi !ubuntu | Mar 11 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party Goodies are ready now http://goo.gl/vUkLs | Mar 11 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Starting the day with a _very_ strong chinese #tea | Mar 11 01:00 | |
| *schestowitz_away (8258c799@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.88.199.153) has joined #techrights | Mar 11 01:00 | |
| schestowitz_away | BT is taking ages to connect the broadband in the new house | Mar 11 01:01 |
| schestowitz_away | So I'm connecting from the lab... | Mar 11 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | Welcome back schestowitz_away | Mar 11 01:01 |
| schestowitz_away | Thanks | Mar 11 01:01 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: took me a few days to decide on the new ISP too | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | a lab? at your job? | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: hmm you gone with BT? | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz_away | It's all pretty unreasonable | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | I have been told by someone online a few times, that BT is a bad ISP | Mar 11 01:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fotografii de la întâlnirea RLUG din martie http://is.gd/pgfaDm | Mar 11 01:02 | |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: something wrong with BT? | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: apparantly so yeah | Mar 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz_away | Oh, I see the bot's down, let me bring it up again | Mar 11 01:02 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: | Mar 11 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: | Mar 11 01:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity 3.6.4 Brings Resizable Launcher, ALT + F2 Run Dialog, More [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/eeLrUB | Mar 11 01:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Is Apache Open-By-Rule?: Apache The Apache Software Foundation is probably the most respected open source code... http://wmk.me/etGgUG | Mar 11 01:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] After #Amazon, Masterobjects Takes #Google To Court Over Instant Search Patent - http://tcrn.ch/esP3dr gosh, what a surprise #swpats | Mar 11 01:12 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: all HP computers shipped next year will have WebOS, some major news, you may have missed | Mar 11 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | since no net access | Mar 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: wow, major indeed! | Mar 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz_away | But... | Mar 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz_away | Dual-boot? | Mar 11 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | yep dual boot | Mar 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz_away | The display shows are all Vista 7 in unison, with even TVs showing ads like that | Mar 11 01:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting the connection at the new house might take longer than hoped (BT), so I might just get some coding done until then. | Mar 11 01:14 | |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: still nice | Mar 11 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | indeed still nice | Mar 11 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/every-hp-pc-shipped-next-year-will-have-webos/22928 | Mar 11 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-says-WebOS-headed-for-desktop-PCs/?kc=rss | Mar 11 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: there you go ^ | Mar 11 01:15 |
| schestowitz_away | Thanks | Mar 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz_away | Dented | Mar 11 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | your welcome :) | Mar 11 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | I did a dent yesterday for the first link | Mar 11 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | the second is from today | Mar 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz_away | I am trying to log into the server... can't remember the IP address... that's at home | Mar 11 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | (or when I got on it anyway) | Mar 11 01:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just caught up with: HP's desktop plans for #WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts http://ur1.ca/3gqqb | Mar 11 01:17 | |
| schestowitz_away | I got my COMPA^H^HP laptop back out | Mar 11 01:17 |
| schestowitz_away | It runs DSL now | Mar 11 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | looks like HP is good to buy from in 2012 | Mar 11 01:18 |
| schestowitz_away | It's not the first to sell dual-boot | Mar 11 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | however surely the next Windows is coming out towards the end of 2012 as well? | Mar 11 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | Vista 2006 | Mar 11 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | Windows 7 October 2009 | Mar 11 01:18 |
| schestowitz_away | The Linux option is also fairly proprietary | Mar 11 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | for HP? | Mar 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz_away | I think HP -- not just Dell for instance -- has been dual boot proponent for a while | Mar 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: WebOS is proprietary | Mar 11 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment they are using Linux for these basic OS's these companies | Mar 11 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | but | Mar 11 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | maybe in the future they will start doing proper distro's more | Mar 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz_away | Except some parts like Linux and other packages they must keep free/libre | Mar 11 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | still nice though, still a start | Mar 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz_away | Yes | Mar 11 01:19 |
| schestowitz_away | I wasn't mocking this decision or anything, but Android is still more open | Mar 11 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | then of course there's Android, another example of companies just using Linux really to make money | Mar 11 01:20 |
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| schestowitz_away | MeeGo is almost best now that OpenMoko is kaput more or less | Mar 11 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | really a lot of companies go LInux to save money and that's probably their main reason really | Mar 11 01:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EC wants to improve procurement to avoid vendor lock-in - http://bit.ly/i8NjPQ #openstandards are your friend here #eu | Mar 11 01:20 | |
| sebsebseb | ,but well hey it's Linux at the end of the day still so :D | Mar 11 01:21 |
| schestowitz_away | Thwe Linux(R) brand | Mar 11 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | The? | Mar 11 01:21 |
| schestowitz_away | Yes | Mar 11 01:21 |
| schestowitz_away | Typo | Mar 11 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | I just saw the latest Unity video on webupd a little while ago now | Mar 11 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | and yep Unity isn't really something I want | Mar 11 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell on the other hand, well not tried very latest yet, but Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: also I don't need app recommendations from the OS and so on, but well Ubuntu is for the noobs | Mar 11 01:22 |
| schestowitz_away | I use Fedora KDE ATM | Mar 11 01:25 |
| schestowitz_away | Solid stuff, but I lack the screen space | Mar 11 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: so I guess starting next year, or well soon after that, if we include HP's webos market share as part of Desktop Linux market share, then I guess Desktop Linux has most market share | Mar 11 01:25 |
| schestowitz_away | At home my display is about 3500 pixels wide | Mar 11 01:25 |
| schestowitz_away | I just can't get it to work at a high res than this at the moment | Mar 11 01:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff LibreOffice 3.3.2 Release Candidate 1 available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ !libo !tdf | Mar 11 01:25 | |
| sebsebseb | and if we include Android and stuff like that as well, then yeah Linux has most market share | Mar 11 01:25 |
| schestowitz_away | Also, my CRT has a faulty red cathode ray thingie... whatever it's called | Mar 11 01:26 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: yes, but now we move on to earning more freedom | Mar 11 01:26 |
| schestowitz_away | Linux is one stepping stone | Mar 11 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | PC Linux OS for me for now, even though serious issues with Choqok :( | Mar 11 01:26 |
| schestowitz_away | Techrights deals with other issue | Mar 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz_away | *issues | Mar 11 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | and laggy slow kapman as well | Mar 11 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: basically I can't use choqok right now at all | Mar 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz_away | It's not just a 'Linux site' | Mar 11 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | since now instead of it loading up being really slow to load up | Mar 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: I use the KDE widget | Mar 11 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | I can't add the account | Mar 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz_away | Cause at home I have no connection, bar dongle | Mar 11 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | choqok got updated, and now it's like something about a missing plugin when I try to add an account | Mar 11 01:27 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: in choqok I have 6 accounts set up | Mar 11 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: I been trying out elmdentica recently it was in the PCLOS repos :) | Mar 11 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | seems ok that client, but | Mar 11 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | like Pino it seems, really sucky for showing lots of old dents | Mar 11 01:28 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 11 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | I liked how in Choqok it could show me 1000 old dents :) | Mar 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz_away | For me it's back to kdemicroblog | Mar 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Not great | Mar 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Resouce hog | Mar 11 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | kdemicroblog hmm, that's a client that can be installed I guess, and how many dents can it show? | Mar 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Could take up half a gig if thousands accumulated | Mar 11 01:28 |
| schestowitz_away | So I had to disable some plugins and occasionally restart the app | Mar 11 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Can people stop preferring glitter over application functionality please!? YOUR MAKING ME ANGRY! | Mar 11 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Proiectul Fedora, România http://fedoraproject.org/ro/ #fedora #romania #software #microsoft | Mar 11 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] RT @speeddefrost Take note: The Earth is PISSED OFF. | Mar 11 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @docufoundation: RT @floeff LibreOffice 3.3.2 Release Candidate 1 available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ !libo !tdf | Mar 11 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Roll Your Own Foursquare: #Ushahidi Launches Open-Source #Location Service - http://rww.to/gJ3PZb nice work #opensource | Mar 11 01:29 | |
| *schestowitz_away is now known as schestowitz | Mar 11 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8hdSM1Fa8 #minecraft | Mar 11 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Sometimes i think that people buy new computers just so they can run more shiny special effects on their computers. #bullshit #useless .. | Mar 11 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] .. #unhelpful | Mar 11 01:30 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: Want some Unity? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/unity-364-brings-resizable-launcher-alt.html | Mar 11 01:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: hmm I just read your dents properly after that, and well what I just said, seems to fit in heh heh | Mar 11 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | that's what Unity is really | Mar 11 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | shiney | Mar 11 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Want some Unity? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/unity-364-brings-resizable-launcher-alt.html | Mar 11 01:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @AndreiAvadanei: Certificat Digital, Semnatura Electronica si Declaratia 112 http://goo.gl/fb/SWAgz | Mar 11 01:32 | |
| sebsebseb | Unity hmm :( really, Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 01:32 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, dont make me hurt you :) | Mar 11 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I just read the dents that came in here, propelry after that, I meant above | Mar 11 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | Unity is hmm | Mar 11 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | first it was hmm with those nasty Gnome 2 patche's | Mar 11 01:33 |
| nisshh | hehe | Mar 11 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | now they make basically most of those features, into a completly alternative interface to Gnome Shell | Mar 11 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | and then put copyright assignments on it as well | Mar 11 01:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Despre semnătura digitală și costul ei http://is.gd/o5LpND #romania #security #anaf #software | Mar 11 01:34 | |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, dude, are you ever going to stop complaining about those patches? | Mar 11 01:34 |
| nisshh | seems like thats all you ever do :) | Mar 11 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | so now at least those features don't completly suck, because now they are a proper interface, but things are still hmm | Mar 11 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: uh whatever | Mar 11 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and maybe you haven't noticed it enough yet by now, but people tend to express their opinions in this channel and the other one as well | Mar 11 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | one major reason I started using these channels :) | Mar 11 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | (well the old channel, and then the name change to this one, and social yeah) | Mar 11 01:36 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, oh its not that, but you seem to just rant about those patches, nothing else :) | Mar 11 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: that's not quite true, and you know it | Mar 11 01:36 |
| nisshh | i like variety :) | Mar 11 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | also the stuff I just mentioned | Mar 11 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | has ruined Ubuntu | Mar 11 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | for many people like me who used it from either the begining with 4.10 or nearly the begining with 5.04 which was me | Mar 11 01:37 |
| nisshh | well, true ok, but you always bring up the patches :) | Mar 11 01:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No longer a need to pirate Doctor Who - http://bit.ly/h98eps other TV companies take note of the global dynamics here #piracy | Mar 11 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Lewis.... Where there is blame, there's a claim." ROFL | Mar 11 01:37 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: anyway it's a noob distro, and let them have their noob interface Unity | Mar 11 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | plus can't stop them having that anyway :D and uhmm Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 01:37 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 11 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | in a way it's good their are the two some competitino | Mar 11 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | on the other hand, Unity isn't really meant to exist in the first place, or not for the desktop anyway, it was meant to be a netbook GUI | Mar 11 01:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey you guys ready to make !fedora 16 the @beefymiracle release?? | Mar 11 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYTimes: When We Do It, It's Journalism, When HuffPo Does It, It's 'Piracy' - http://bit.ly/el7nli #NYT trying hard in hypocrite stakes | Mar 11 01:39 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: also it's probably been Ubuntu newbies who have been mainly saying bad stuff about Gnome Shell removing the minimise and maximise button, with many of them not even trying that version | Mar 11 01:39 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 11 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: in fact in the last jono bacon ustream I asked a question about that and what he thought about that, and he basically mistakingly said it was Ubuntu people, and then had to correct himself to say not only Ubuntu, heh heh, see the video if you want | Mar 11 01:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Best #Mars Images From Orbiter’s First 5 Years - http://bit.ly/h5TOIP superb gallery | Mar 11 01:42 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: why aren't you in the other channel? | Mar 11 01:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New XML Standard for Super-Fast, Lightweight Applications Announced by W3C - http://rww.to/ffWLTL "for quickly streaming large sets of data" | Mar 11 01:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hope it's easier to port ♺ @carlopiana I must say that the palm Pre^3 is quite cool. The wireless charger in particular. I love competition! | Mar 11 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'll get back there when I'm on my main desktop | Mar 11 01:51 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh ok | Mar 11 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Just catching up with some stuff first | Mar 11 01:51 |
| *tuxmania (c26703fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.103.3.252) has joined #techrights | Mar 11 01:51 | |
| tuxmania | Hi there :D | Mar 11 01:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods! I need a coffee.... | Mar 11 01:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] s/appear/appeal/ 5 dents ago. | Mar 11 01:52 | |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: hi | Mar 11 01:52 |
| schestowitz | tuxmania: hi | Mar 11 01:53 |
| tuxmania | Wow, HP is going to get some pounding from Stevie soon. | Mar 11 01:53 |
| MinceR | ? | Mar 11 01:54 |
| MinceR | also, hi | Mar 11 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: yeah they can't annoy Micrsofot to much well they could, but | Mar 11 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: if they do that, Dell may become the number one PC seller again, pretty soon instead | Mar 11 01:54 |
| tuxmania | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/hp-the-linux-desktop-company/8423 | Mar 11 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but anyway HP doing web os | Mar 11 01:54 |
| sebsebseb | that's good yaeh | Mar 11 01:55 |
| tuxmania | If nothing else, it will give Linux an enormous "APPROVED" stamp. | Mar 11 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: WebOS on HP, Android, these instant on OS's | Mar 11 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Mar 11 01:55 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Mar 11 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | Linux get's most market share | Mar 11 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | not Windows or Mac OS X | Mar 11 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | if we include all this | Mar 11 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | Who are you tuxmania ? | Mar 11 01:56 |
| sebsebseb | new here or? | Mar 11 01:56 |
| tuxmania | naw, i read techrights all the time | Mar 11 01:57 |
| tuxmania | just not on irc much these days | Mar 11 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Mar 11 01:57 |
| MinceR | i doubt instant-on os-es will guarantee ending the m$ tax on high-end laptops though | Mar 11 01:57 |
| MinceR | people don't buy those only to run a web browser | Mar 11 01:57 |
| tuxmania | MinceR: no, but from what i understand OEMs pay no matter what os they ship | Mar 11 01:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: notice how Linux is being used for basic OS's by these big companies? Well it's a start, but hmm it can do so much more than just that | Mar 11 01:58 |
| MinceR | the laptop manufacturers will actually have to care to kick m$ out of that market | Mar 11 01:58 |
| MinceR | tuxmania: that too | Mar 11 01:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well with other programs, since it's just a kernel, you know | Mar 11 01:58 |
| MinceR | if the laptop manufacturers did stuff correctly, they could at least cut m$'s revenue greatly by ending m$ tax on low-end stuff | Mar 11 01:58 |
| tuxmania | The netbook did lower Microsofts income significantly at the bottom end. | Mar 11 01:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] AMO and minVersion 4.0 are BFF http://bit.ly/eXvl4n | Mar 11 01:59 | |
| tuxmania | MS won the netbook market, but at a great price. | Mar 11 01:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bogdan Manolea despre datele deschise (open data) în România http://is.gd/Sz3DCk #romania #peblog #opendata #free #software | Mar 11 02:00 | |
| MinceR | there are other cheap laptops beside netbooks though | Mar 11 02:01 |
| MinceR | for which one could still make the case of "i just want to browse the web and run webapps", perhaps | Mar 11 02:01 |
| tuxmania | I want a Chrome Laptop for that, now i have a Galaxy Tab | Mar 11 02:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Threat Of Parallel Filing - http://bit.ly/hxrVnY interesting point; solution is to put everything in public domain explicitly #swpats | Mar 11 02:02 | |
| tuxmania | The solution is banning software patents, anything else is poorly dressed band aid. | Mar 11 02:03 |
| tuxmania | Get the corps to choose, patents OR copyright, not both. | Mar 11 02:04 |
| tuxmania | Software as books makes the corps sidestep any guarantee issues, but patents makes software enforceable as hardware goods. | Mar 11 02:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] So you think you own your twitter name? - http://bit.ly/g9bfJD this is bad, and likely to be just the beginning (v @deburca) #trademarks | Mar 11 02:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhhh! Coffee! | Mar 11 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arduino blog: "We are looking for Forum Moderators" - http://bit.ly/fEFEbs form an orderly queue #arduino #openhardware | Mar 11 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] couple of branches merged, not to look into the solid networkmanager crash ... | Mar 11 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A fairytale marriage: Google Earth and #London in #3D - http://bit.ly/gWbxmq be there without being there | Mar 11 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing a podcast and a video at the same time. Look at me! :D | Mar 11 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Gonna write some #espressotips First is: pre-heat your cup with hot water or the cappuccino steam | Mar 11 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ... and it's working again! yes! probably have @sebas to thank for that | Mar 11 02:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Apache Open-By-Rule? - http://bit.ly/fO0HRc you bet: "It’s no surprise to me that Apache scores a perfect 10." #apache | Mar 11 02:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A real espresso is never more than half a cup (a tiny one). Foam should be mild brown Good: http://ur1.ca/3gral #espressotips | Mar 11 02:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scholarly HTML – what we are hoping for - http://bit.ly/fNEh9Z important: "it’s about returning freedom-of-publication to authors" | Mar 11 02:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] 1 espresso = 7gr 2 espresso = 12-13 gr coffee. Keep your coffe in a cold, dry place. Better if ground on demand. #espressotips | Mar 11 02:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Broadband ISPs Thrash Out Voluntary UK #NetNeutrality Commitment with the BSG - http://bit.ly/eI7WFX devil's in the details | Mar 11 02:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Home coffee machines are fine, but let it warm! in a hurry, make one w/ old or w/o coffee, then put the powder. #espressotips | Mar 11 02:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Final of the day: Nespresso is as good as coca-cola is a good drink. If you like it, fine, but it's not espresso ;-) #espressotips | Mar 11 02:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Sony #PS3 Class File An Amended Complaint - http://bit.ly/idfE4p what fun | Mar 11 02:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OpenShot really is quite good if you use 1.3 | Mar 11 02:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Double Standard On Special 301 Report: Industry Is Allowed Vague, Unsupported Statements; Consumer Advocates Are Not - http://bit.ly/fw6W3F | Mar 11 02:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh as I said, if you like it, fine. I drink it too, seldom, but I do. :-) | Mar 11 02:24 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'll see if o2 can connect me faster than BT | Mar 11 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I'll go to town now and find out | Mar 11 02:28 |
| schestowitz | It's just too boring when I use a computer without all my files, settings, and programs | Mar 11 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #France appoints CIO but takes #interoperability of task list - http://bit.ly/ftuBpL not good #openstandards | Mar 11 02:29 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: O2 that sounds like a better ISP to me, even though I don't exactly know anything about them | Mar 11 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: BT has problems removing the connection or something I think it was, going by what someone said last year | Mar 11 02:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz sorry, I don't understand | Mar 11 02:30 | |
| sebsebseb | and probably issues connecting to by the sounds of what your saying | Mar 11 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Taking too long to get connected | Mar 11 02:31 |
| schestowitz | They say 22nd of March# | Mar 11 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | what BT are saying 22nd of March? | Mar 11 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: don't go with BT, 1. they are massive, 2. they shoudn't have loads of problems connecting people now, 3. the and so on | Mar 11 02:31 |
| schestowitz | To get the broadband running | Mar 11 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly they aren't that good for Broadband | Mar 11 02:32 |
| schestowitz | I told them it's urgent cause my jobs need connection from home | Mar 11 02:32 |
| schestowitz | They don't seem to bother with such considerations | Mar 11 02:32 |
| schestowitz | BT-monopoly made them vain and apathetic t/w customers | Mar 11 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: like I said someone online told me a few of the annoyed with BT stories, this was last year | Mar 11 02:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OLD WOMAN I DEMAND YOUR FINEST BACON | Mar 11 02:32 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus BT is a sort of monoplogy so why support them? | Mar 11 02:32 |
| schestowitz | I know.. | Mar 11 02:32 |
| schestowitz | .A friend of mine manages there... | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | But it's too large to matter for one person | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I'm off now, will be back later | Mar 11 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: going for BT | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | I'll see what O2 can do.. | Mar 11 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: wait | Mar 11 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | going for BT, beccause a friend works there | Mar 11 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | sounds like a stupid reason to me | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no,BT will send me a package | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | But I have not signed anything yet | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | So I can check O2's offer | Mar 11 02:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.o2.co.uk/broadband/ | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok find out about O2, sounds good to me | Mar 11 02:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Your cake is so sweet and moist...... ROFL | Mar 11 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | It was better in the older apartment, none of this mess | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: of course Virgin Media are pretty good, but | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess your not going for them | Mar 11 02:34 |
| schestowitz | The complex handled all the Net centrally | Mar 11 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Virgin is what the previous tennat used | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 11 02:34 |
| schestowitz | And I went to the Virgin shop, their prices suck | Mar 11 02:34 |
| schestowitz | And they are slow, too | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | well I think with VIrgin | Mar 11 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Slow to set up I mean | Mar 11 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | meant to have TV and phone with it really as well | Mar 11 02:35 |
| schestowitz | My line has 17MB speed | Mar 11 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | for it to be a good deal, not sure exactly | Mar 11 02:35 |
| schestowitz | A mate of mine who lives near me had o2 and said it had no hangups | Mar 11 02:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] OMG! Have I really bought a Kindle before finding out if I can root it?! I'm totally insane, help! | Mar 11 02:35 | |
| schestowitz | Which is why I need most and foremost | Mar 11 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok sounds like your probably going O2 then, should be quite a bit better than going BT | Mar 11 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Yes, seems so.. | Mar 11 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Will be back in a few hours hopefully | Mar 11 02:36 |
| schestowitz | It's Friday, so I better hurry to leave some time to make other things happen | Mar 11 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah it's Friday | Mar 11 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | so off to the O2 shop | Mar 11 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | before they close for the weekend ? | Mar 11 02:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Mistral city has a brothel.... :D | Mar 11 02:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4 Demos: 3 new demos! http://mzl.la/i7v5Cz | Mar 11 02:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WHERE IS DRUGS | Mar 11 02:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog on !OMG Ubuntu: Are you contributing your share? http://goo.gl/vYu0p !debian | Mar 11 02:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Henri Bergius: Weblog: On cross-project collaboration and a more reasoned approach to the !Canonical !Gnome fracas http://ping.fm/XI6OC | Mar 11 02:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Henri Bergius on cross-project collaboration http://goo.gl/vbJ9a !gnome | Mar 11 02:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Downpour Is a BitTorrent Client Made for Media Centers Downpour Is a BitTorrent Client Made for Media Centers Kevin Purdy — Mac/Linux http: | Mar 11 02:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubtunu 11.04 will be Optimised for All Platforms qpparently | Techtree http://ping.fm/GmlTk | Mar 11 02:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iTWire - GNOME-KDE wars are back again | Another take on the !Gnome situation http://ping.fm/nVmlO | Mar 11 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud becomes Joli OS, Jolicloud dashboard headed to Firefox and iPad - altonkaplan's blog http://ping.fm/oJopP | Mar 11 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I will review Joli OS, but it's proving harder to get to grips with that I thought. Things I thought were missing were just well hidden | Mar 11 03:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Microsoft to open "cloud and interoperability center" in Brussels on March 22 http://ur1.ca/3grq2 lobby base, more likely (via @ccbuhr) | Mar 11 03:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] EC DG INFSO call for tender on #procurement guidelines impact assessment http://ur1.ca/3gq3j - moving at stately pace, but moving #osor | Mar 11 03:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OUR FRIEND IS SICK WITH TAINT | Mar 11 03:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !chromium 12.0.700 is available for ubuntu from the chromium daily builds !ppa: http://goo.gl/xD38 | Mar 11 03:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] The shortest image uploader – ever! http://mzl.la/eo8lCg | Mar 11 03:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Debarshi Ray: “… update Adobe Flash Player …” — Wait, what? http://goo.gl/qrpz1 !gnu | Mar 11 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: More !Unity "2 Sided Dock" Mockups http://goo.gl/ZLCwN | Mar 11 03:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @flattrchattr: What's been happening this week in the !Flattr World? Check out our weekly review! http://ur1.ca/3gryq | Mar 11 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Flattr has friends everywhere, but Germany is definitely home to our biggest userbase at the moment." http://outl.ws/gigy1x | Mar 11 03:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] news in #China still mention it is a 8.6 scale earthquake in #Japan. probably the real numbers are delayed due to excessive filtering. | Mar 11 03:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @silner Henri Bergius: Weblog: On cross-project collaboration http://ping.fm/XI6OC /cc: !meego !gnome !kde | Mar 11 03:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] More Unity "2 Sided Dock" Mockups [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/fuhF2F | Mar 11 03:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @karsten it seems in that regard ("open" cloud from Microsoft) my gov is already bought. | Mar 11 03:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #BTV, you could have stopped the broadcast of that #WWII series for one day out of respect. !China #unethical | Mar 11 04:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Investigating Performance Differences Between Firefox 4 And IE9 http://is.gd/mEDQBs #firefox #microsoft #mozilla #ie #web #ie9 #romania | Mar 11 04:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Myth Of "Full Hardware Acceleration" http://is.gd/UcBLio #microsoft #ie #ie9 #romania #firefox #hardware #mozilla | Mar 11 04:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tiffany Toth Playboy Cybergirl Xtra March 2011 http://is.gd/5shrsR #it #computers #cyber | Mar 11 04:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://ur1.ca/3gs5m You gotta do the cooking by the book | Mar 11 04:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #bugzap Just reported [733182] Pony should check for new sixgun podcasts from a server. http://b1t.it/cye | Mar 11 04:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] #geekpr0n 1 MW Laser Pistol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXXGbNS8oY | Mar 11 04:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Folks, who are the sponsors of Firefox ? Where can I get a list ? Thanks in advance. | Mar 11 04:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT #psd just seen a glimpse of the future thanks to @yannsionneau especially for an amazing !Milkymist OSHUG Q&A. !FPGA FTW! | Mar 11 04:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !FSFE is turning 10 years old! Congratulations and keep up your good work! http://ur1.ca/3gs91 http://ur1.ca/3gs94 | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Anon News, Operation Payback: interviews ... real ones http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49836 | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @luigireggi: Emilia-romagna region launches its strategy for #opendata & e-inclusion. Method = partnership w existng bottom-up initiativs | Mar 11 04:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Sjig: The Dutch could save 1 to 4 billion Euro/y, if only their public administrations would move 2 open source http://ur1.ca/3gsba #free | Mar 11 04:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Radical Copyright Reform Only Chance For The #Copyright #Monopoly To Survive At All - http://bit.ly/dMB2SO let's not be timid: abolition | Mar 11 04:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: #FSFE is turning 10 years old! Congratulations and keep up your good work! http://ur1.ca/3gs91 http://ur1.ca/3gs94 | Mar 11 04:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #iPhone 4 and #Blackberry Torch hacked at #Pwn2Own | IT PRO http://ping.fm/0rCGM | Mar 11 04:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Think I've broken Tweetcloud. Tried it three times, and it hasn't once managed a report... | Mar 11 04:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 04:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 04:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 04:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Broadband ISPs Thrash Out Voluntary UK #NetNeutrality Commitment with the BSG - http://bit.ly/eI7WFX devil's in the details | Mar 11 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looking at Mark Shuttleworth's speech on Gnome again, I wonder why Canonical wasn't more even handed with KDE in the first place? http://pin | Mar 11 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: Scholarly HTML –what we are hoping for http://bit.ly/fNEh9Z important: "it’s about returning freedom-of-publication to authors" | Mar 11 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Is Apache Open-By-Rule? - http://bit.ly/fO0HRc you bet: "It’s no surprise to me that Apache scores a perfect 10." #apache | Mar 11 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: So you think you own your twitter name? - http://bit.ly/g9bfJD this is bad, and likely to be just the beginning... #trademarks | Mar 11 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Best #Mars Images From Orbiter’s First 5 Years - http://bit.ly/h5TOIP superb gallery | Mar 11 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: NYTimes: When We Do It, It's Journalism, When HuffPo Does It, It's 'Piracy' http://bit.ly/el7nli #NYT trying hard in hypocrite | Mar 11 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What I mean is: Canonical always seemed to favour Gnome over KDE and Kubuntu was often behind. Maybe that should change too? | Mar 11 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ikrshnan: !LibreOffice Pre-Release version goes to 3.3.2 RC1 http://is.gd/R8gk4l !openoffice !fsf !foss !gnu !linux !gnulinux !windows | Mar 11 04:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: MPs threatened over UK phone-hacking - Investigations "would not be forgotten" http://bit.ly/hLpp4A #security | Mar 11 04:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party Goodies are ready now by emilychen http://ping.fm/bYWG0 | Mar 11 04:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iTWire - GPL expert @bkuhn gives Red Hat the all-clear http://ping.fm/cK3im | Mar 11 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Spiral tribe – marking the end of !Debian’s unpredictable release schedule /by @linuxusermag http://ping.fm/QdadW | Mar 11 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@laurelrusswurm: Must Read: "Tor, XMPP, GPG, Internet security" excellent blog post by @jimmorgan http://ur1.ca/3gnth !privacy #internet... | Mar 11 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] fregl started a QML Plasmoid tutorial to augment the examples in kdeexamples: http://ur1.ca/3gsnu | Mar 11 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] as @notmart noted: "more love is needed. writing it could be a very good way to learn the api, so look at it and expand it where needed." | Mar 11 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] in cases like #Japan the #realtime internet search option shows its importance http://is.gd/s5Q1bz too bad @collectadotcom is now 'revising' | Mar 11 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Would more sound if it forbade #3strikes ♺ @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady | Mar 11 04:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Ada Initiative Begins Its Study of Gender - Linux Magazine Online http://ping.fm/w8a5I | Mar 11 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Natty adds ‘Control Centre’ entry to Session Menu http://goo.gl/FlpgQ !unity | Mar 11 05:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-11: Press Release: OpenLogic Scan Shows Open Source License Violations for iPhone and Android... http://wmk.me/fuGDrP | Mar 11 05:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Video release: Minecraft Adventures 5 - Spiders > http://outl.ws/ho0Pm3 #minecraft #linuxoutlaws | Mar 11 05:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Hotot !Identica Client Gets A "Wide" Interface http://goo.gl/63Md4 | Mar 11 05:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: #Women not allowed to drive in #Saudi, lovers beheaded or stoned in the streets by current regime (cont) http://tl.gd/97fum6 | Mar 11 05:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/fS1xG8 | Mar 11 05:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/gSJNfV | Mar 11 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Shelly Glover was lobbied by Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters Canada (CME) on Feb. 22 http://bit.ly/fojVmU | Mar 11 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet: @sabdfl http://bit.ly/fsApCp if this is true you really have to change things if you ever want to work within !gnome | Mar 11 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bonnie Crombie was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/fvzNzx | Mar 11 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bonnie Crombie was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/gs8hrt | Mar 11 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ted Menzies was lobbied by Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters Canada (CME) on Feb. 22 http://bit.ly/h2KVgF | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anthropologists link human uniqueness to hunter-gatherer group structure - http://bit.ly/dNqHD3 about social nws (v @WildForests @mpesce) | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Pablo Rodriguez was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/ihVugZ | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Scott Simms was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/hGDhDf | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Scott Simms was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/erzqV2 | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Peter Braid was lobbied by Association of University Research Parks Canada on Feb. 02 http://bit.ly/h7Ltwe | Mar 11 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Canadian Recording Industry Association on Mar. 08 http://bit.ly/hhpWZO | Mar 11 05:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LOPPSI: The Constitutional Council Validates Internet Censorship - http://bit.ly/h0ziz2 censorship is constitutional, eh? handy... | Mar 11 05:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Heightened state of alert at Japan atom plant http://is.gd/GvWHn3 #IAEA #Japan #quake | Mar 11 05:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Whole lot of lobbying going on. Canadian Medical Association appears to have one the brass ring this time around. | Mar 11 05:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: on #infopolicy: Radical Copyright Monopoly Reform Only Chance For Copyright To Survive At All http://goo.gl/fb/aD1D9 | Mar 11 05:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: If #copyright monopoly isn't radically reduced soon next generation will kill it altogether: http://bit.ly/hbtatm #infopolicy | Mar 11 05:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @RobertFife Canada sets up 1-800-387-3124 hotline for Cdns needing info on family & friends in Japan. #cndpoli #quake | Mar 11 05:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moving to open source would save Dutch government 1 to 4 billion' - http://bit.ly/hMOy6T "proprietary standards are most disruptive" #nl | Mar 11 05:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Radical Copyright Reform Only Chance For #Copyright #Monopoly To Survive - http://bit.ly/dMB2SO let's not be timid: abolition | Mar 11 05:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Moving to open source would save Dutch government 1 to 4 billion' - http://bit.ly/hMOy6T "proprietary standards are most d ... | Mar 11 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Following AFACT v iiNet, Internet Industry Formulates Copyright Code of Conduct - http://bit.ly/gWf6Xn shrewd preemptive move #au | Mar 11 05:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Make: Online » Is It Time to Rebuild & Retool Public Libraries and Make “TechShops”? http://ping.fm/kZT2l | Mar 11 05:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Pidgin 2.7.11 closes DoS bug - The H #Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/77i45 | Mar 11 05:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Pwn2Own 2011: no-one goes after !Chrome - The H #Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/vRInq | Mar 11 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @ricmarques: PDF do Min.Finanças com medidas de "Actualização Anual do Programa de Estabilidade e Crescimento" (PEC) - http://ae.wu.sl.pt | Mar 11 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to unroot and re-lock the Motorola #Xoom !Android http://ping.fm/MSDxg | Mar 11 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Moving to open source would save #nl government 1 to 4 billion http://bit.ly/hMOy6T proprietary standards are most disruptive | Mar 11 05:50 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: oiaohm MinceR Hmm interesting? http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/apt-btrfs-snapshot/ | Mar 11 05:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle accused of stifling HP TPC benchmark http://ping.fm/fcrUP | Mar 11 05:55 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 11 05:56 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: that is part of the long term road map. | Mar 11 05:56 |
| MinceR | looks like what fedora does, iirc | Mar 11 05:56 |
| sebsebseb | they may use BTRFS by default for Ubuntu 11.10, and hype that up of course | Mar 11 05:56 |
| sebsebseb | since it's Ubuntu | Mar 11 05:56 |
| MinceR | you can now just tell btrfs to exempt a subtree from the snapshot? | Mar 11 05:56 |
| oiaohm | btrfs is still not called production ready. | Mar 11 05:57 |
| oiaohm | btrfs has a lot of interesting snapshot features. | Mar 11 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: might be by Ubuntu 11.10 though? | Mar 11 05:57 |
| MinceR | afaik btrfs is still missing basic tools | Mar 11 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | or is btrfs going to become the new default file system for Ubuntu 12.04 first? | Mar 11 05:57 |
| oiaohm | But also remember snapshots can turn into disk eaters. | Mar 11 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | I been thinking about that as well, how the snapshots will take up hard disk space | Mar 11 05:57 |
| oiaohm | btrfs snapshots are quite effective. | Mar 11 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | really we don't need snapshots in Linux distro's or not useaully anyway, because they work so well :) | Mar 11 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Since they are at the file level. | Mar 11 05:58 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: really we do need snapshots. | Mar 11 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | takes quite a bit to mess up a Linux distro install enough, useually | Mar 11 05:58 |
| MinceR | can btrfs delete snapshots already? | Mar 11 05:58 |
| oiaohm | And well intergrated. | Mar 11 05:58 |
| oiaohm | btrfs can delete snapshots. | Mar 11 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | with snapshots though, can undo most issues | Mar 11 05:58 |
| oiaohm | Lets say you try a upgrade and it goes bad. sebsebseb | Mar 11 05:58 |
| sebsebseb | should get rid of a lot of support issues in support channels | Mar 11 05:58 |
| MinceR | my killer use case for snapshots is backup | Mar 11 05:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle really are an miasma of a company aren't they? Dirty, murky, shady, and slimy: that's what I mean | Mar 11 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle really are a miasma of a company aren't they? Dirty, murky, shady, and slimy: that's what I mean | Mar 11 05:59 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: true for that kind of thing, but in general snapshots aren't needed | Mar 11 05:59 |
| sebsebseb | as such | Mar 11 05:59 |
| MinceR | make a readonly snapshot, start backup from it, return to normal computer use while it finishes | Mar 11 05:59 |
| oiaohm | Next is snapshoting assists doing backups. | Mar 11 05:59 |
| MinceR | and then delete the snapshot. | Mar 11 05:59 |
| sebsebseb | or let's say someone is on Ubuntu, and they reolise that the next version sucks even more after upgrading to it | Mar 11 05:59 |
| sebsebseb | so they downgrade using a snapshot :D | Mar 11 05:59 |
| oiaohm | Really this is a sneaky method. | Mar 11 05:59 |
| oiaohm | Now tell btrfs to take a snapshot. | Mar 11 06:00 |
| oiaohm | Mount that snapshot elsewhere | Mar 11 06:00 |
| oiaohm | do backup off that snapshot | Mar 11 06:00 |
| oiaohm | You can copy what would be otherwise locked files that way. | Mar 11 06:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud 1.2 Adds Integrated Dropbox, Better Performance to Cloud-Based Desktop [Updates] http://ping.fm/AUeCA | Mar 11 06:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] True collaboration embraces conflict | http://bit.ly/h7orX3 #hackmanagement | Mar 11 06:00 | |
| oiaohm | One of the most interesting features of btrfs is that you can have a tree of snapshots | Mar 11 06:01 |
| oiaohm | Handy for the likes of containers. And there are such things as writable snapshots. | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: I don't know much about btfs, same for wayland, and both are being hyped up here and there | Mar 11 06:02 |
| oiaohm | btrfs has lots of good features. | Mar 11 06:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @newscientist: Tumours could be the ancestors of animals http://bit.ly/fUImYg <<cancer as a living fossil | Mar 11 06:04 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: such as? | Mar 11 06:04 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Subvolumes_and_snapshots | Mar 11 06:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux Insider: Who Are the FOSS Police? http://ping.fm/aak27 | Mar 11 06:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I found it, but still needs to get my head around how to make it visible !GNU !Fedora !Scribus | Mar 11 06:05 | |
| oiaohm | True multi OS's in 1 partition without argueing with each other sebsebseb | Mar 11 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | loads of distro's in the same partition? | Mar 11 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Subvolumes inside a partition. | Mar 11 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes you could put loads of distros inside the same volume. | Mar 11 06:06 |
| sebsebseb | how would you select between them? | Mar 11 06:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @opensourceway True collaboration embraces conflict | http://bit.ly/h7orX3 #hackmanagement | Mar 11 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] brb, encrypting ~ | Mar 11 06:07 | |
| sebsebseb | Today I want to run Mageia :) Today I want to run Linux Mint, how would switch between? | Mar 11 06:07 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: fairly simply with supporting bootloader of course. | Mar 11 06:08 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: btrfs really takes current tech past what we are use to. | Mar 11 06:09 |
| sebsebseb | btrfs makes current partition set ups | Mar 11 06:09 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: You can mout btrfs filesystem by subvolume. | Mar 11 06:09 |
| sebsebseb | a thing of the past | Mar 11 06:09 |
| sebsebseb | you mean? | Mar 11 06:09 |
| oiaohm | No different. | Mar 11 06:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Interesting blogpost by @nearyd Has GNOME rejected Canonical help?http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/03/07/has-gnome-rejected-canonical-help/ | Mar 11 06:10 | |
| oiaohm | btrfs is a object based filesystem approce to raid | Mar 11 06:11 |
| oiaohm | So unlike old raids in a stripe where a file could end up split between multi drives | Mar 11 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Under btrfs the whole files get placed on the drives. | Mar 11 06:12 |
| oiaohm | This does improve odds of data recovery in case of a broken raid. | Mar 11 06:12 |
| oiaohm | btrfs also brings support for its partition to be resized while its mounted . sebsebseb | Mar 11 06:13 |
| oiaohm | Even moving between harddrives while it mounted. So allowing defective drives to be removed with less distrubance. | Mar 11 06:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell D.C. Dems to take a lesson from the #Wisconsin14. It's time to stand and fight! http://bit.ly/ecItYu | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Copyright Troll Righthaven Complains of Defendant's Legal Fees - Slashdot http://ping.fm/T6iPE | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: We missed this hilarious, and true story, about Assange gate-crashing a US embassy cocktail party htt... http://bit.ly/g35r6V | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks cables: Indonesian President Yudhoyono is deeply corrupt http://theage.com.au/frontpage/201... http://bit.ly/f6UtN6 | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Stripped naked every night, Bradley #Manning tells of prison ordeal from http://ur1.ca/3gtdc #wikileaks | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US State Department condemns treatment of Manning: "ridiculous, counter-productive and stupid" http://is.gd/HM5AcG !wl | Mar 11 06:15 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically btrfs removes a lot of the limits filesystem have normally placed on us. | Mar 11 06:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] State Department spokesman: Abuse of #Manning "is ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid." > http://goo.gl/qqtLS !wl | Mar 11 06:17 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: also the big thing that is not talking about is btrfs supports compression at filesystem level. | Mar 11 06:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android survives #Pwn2Own hacking contest http://ping.fm/wh2i8 | Mar 11 06:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @zack: Bdale Garbee—former #Debian project leader—joins the #freedombox foundation as chair of the tech ctte http://ur1.ca/3gtce @bdale | Mar 11 06:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Neil J Patel: Of Borders and Shadows http://goo.gl/Yu8RM | Mar 11 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @silner: #Android survives #Pwn2Own hacking contest http://ping.fm/wh2i8 | Mar 11 06:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing podcasts... | Mar 11 06:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia's "left wing" government considered charging Assange with treason http://is.gd/oX9FTO !wl | Mar 11 06:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Copyright flaws: Consumers impacted if issues not resolved in new law Montreal Gazette http://bit.ly/fxlyQ2 | Mar 11 06:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Wikileaks: Manning's dad protests conditions of son's incarceration, new legal filing complains conditions unjust http://ur1.ca/3gtfm | Mar 11 06:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Neil J Patel: Of Borders and Shadows http://goo.gl/Yu8RM | Mar 11 06:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Balanced, neutral journalism is RUBBISH and that's a FACT (The Register): http://bit.ly/eDaVBD | Mar 11 06:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Indonesian President Yudhoyono's top adviser a Timor war crimes suspect | SMH http://is.gd/JrD9AE !wl | Mar 11 06:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Zeinobia: #ByebyeMubarak 11022011 is remarkable day #Egypt #jan25 | Mar 11 06:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] AOL CEO: Layoffs today, bright future ahead - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/fNWrYc | Mar 11 06:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SoftMaker Office coming to !Android http://ping.fm/n6HOI | Mar 11 06:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Veteran Journos Out as AOL-Huffington Cuts 900 Jobs (Wired.com): http://bit.ly/fSdhpg | Mar 11 06:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google ads news flash to bottom of search page about possible Tsunami to hit New Zealand etc. "Caused by 8.9 earthquake in Japan" google.com | Mar 11 06:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Cutting Assange loose demeans our nation http://is.gd/N4iF6P !wl | Mar 11 06:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Opera now has search hijack prevention | Mar 11 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | probably to stop random Windows apps from changing your search bar into a whore bar (those mainly go after IE and Firefox anyway) | Mar 11 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | but it also stops Linux Mint from hijacking you to their Google Custom Search | Mar 11 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | I had asked them if they were going to do anything about that | Mar 11 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | this latest 11.10 build fixes all the bugs I've reported | Mar 11 06:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: @sabdfl claims that #Mozilla requires copyright assignment for contributions to #Firefox http://ur1.ca/3gnto | Mar 11 06:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: @mairin except #Mozilla does not require copyright assignment; IIRC committers agree to license own copyrights under (typically) | Mar 11 06:45 | |
| DaemonFC | open source software is not free if they demand copyright assignment | Mar 11 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | The Document Foundation has no legal standing to enforce the license of most code in LibreOffice, for example | Mar 11 06:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @sabdfl "we prefer to maintain copyright integrity" Ahahahaha.....Yeah, nice spin on that one, Mark.... | Mar 11 06:47 | |
| DaemonFC | the only way copyright assignment is ever OK is if there's a clause in the agreement that returns the sole copyright back to the contributor if the upstream starts doing bad things with it, like selling it under proprietary licenses | Mar 11 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | if I recall correctly, the FSF has such a section in their assignment agreement | Mar 11 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who is dumb enough to contribute free code to Canonical's projects better not bitch when it ends up in someone's proprietary software | Mar 11 06:50 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of such clauses | Mar 11 06:50 |
| MinceR | but sounds kind of neat | Mar 11 06:50 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Canonical basically has unilateral decision making and legal ownership of any code that anyone gives them to put in their projects | Mar 11 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not really free software, the GPL is just a window dressing that Canonical is free to ditch any time it likes | Mar 11 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | sure you can fork it, but then you don't have the legal standing to protect your fork | Mar 11 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to ask Canonical to please sue the people that ripped you off | Mar 11 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | IANAL, but this just reeks | Mar 11 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably a good thing that they don't actually produce anything meaningful that other distributions want to use anyway | Mar 11 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is the only other distro using Upstart, and that gets ditched in 15 | Mar 11 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | a few distros have Simple Scan, whoopidy doo | Mar 11 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | the bulk of their code is only used by them anyway | Mar 11 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | reminds me of when Linus explained git | Mar 11 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | everyone has a branch and if you do stupid work in your branch, everyone else can ignore you and go right on trucking | Mar 11 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | or something to that effect :) | Mar 11 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | most of the stuff that comes out of Canonical is stupid, redundant, full of bugs, or mix and match those three | Mar 11 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | if you even attempt to configure your system a little bit, it all comes down like a stack of cards | Mar 11 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's more true with Ubuntu than the other variants | Mar 11 06:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fantastic! rd @martinvars Fon is opening its WiFi network, the largest in Japan for all to use until emergency is over http://bit.ly/hcXyac | Mar 11 06:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where to begin, I guess they kind of lost me when they replaced Pidgin with something that crashes all the time, has no configuration options, and uses the same amount of resources (Empathy) | Mar 11 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | *shivers* | Mar 11 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | but then, that brain damage has made its way into most distros now, it's a GNOME thing | Mar 11 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | if I had a dollar for every time Apport popped up and told me Telepathy crashed (like I hadn't noticed already) and badgered me into filing a bug report only to find out that my bug report is actually comment # 5 billion on the Launchpad site for that issue | Mar 11 07:00 |
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| DaemonFC | ... | Mar 11 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's a lot easier to use Windows if all you were expecting is bugs and random failures anyway | Mar 11 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | it has more software :) | Mar 11 07:01 |
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| DaemonFC | jono: I came up with a finish for that | Mar 11 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | (10:00:15 AM) DaemonFC: if I had a dollar for every time Apport popped up and told me Telepathy crashed (like I hadn't noticed already) and badgered me into filing a bug report only to find out that my bug report is actually comment # 5 billion on the Launchpad site for that issue | Mar 11 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd pay jono to fix Empathy | Mar 11 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | I swear some of the decision making at Ubuntu is specifically just to fuck with users who were getting too comfortable with non-broken software | Mar 11 07:04 |
| *DaemonFC deletes Bing from his Opera search engine list | Mar 11 07:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righthaven accuses defendant of running up legal fees in copyright case - http://bit.ly/evZkoF shameless much? #copyright | Mar 11 07:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tunisian-WikiLeaks publisher Nawaat wins RSF freedom of expression prize http://is.gd/QUVKnS !wl | Mar 11 07:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time to Break Out the Digital Quills Again... - http://bit.ly/h6Uc2A 3 irresistible requests for your thoughts on copyright & open standards | Mar 11 07:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Hotot Twitter Client Gets A "Wide" Interface http://bit.ly/gbVfAU | Mar 11 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Obviously, an ocelot is a bird." Quality !LO quote from @methoddan on the podcast I'm just editing. :D | Mar 11 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Amnesty: "We've always known they knew that things were happening -- and WikiLeaks proves it" http://is.gd/dVXFl0 !wl | Mar 11 07:15 | |
| MinceR | 160133 < DaemonFC> it's a lot easier to use Windows if all you were expecting is bugs and random failures anyway | Mar 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | > it has more bugs | Mar 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Mar 11 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | as Sarah Palin might say | Mar 11 07:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What's Cooking For Mesa & X.Org This Summer?: Summer is quickly approaching in the northern hemisphere so that m... http://bit.ly/hbrD2m | Mar 11 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Ad: "Italy's #1 eating cheese!" What the hell else are they doing with their cheese? | Mar 11 07:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Yay sure you betcha, but it don't get all open sourcey hopey changey on ya | Mar 11 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 07:17 |
| MinceR | i care about free software, not open source :> | Mar 11 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | you know you can't fix it and go straight to acceptance | Mar 11 07:18 |
| MinceR | and i don't care for all the "let's make a cheaper macos" projects | Mar 11 07:18 |
| MinceR | and i don't care for sarah palin either | Mar 11 07:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Who else would declare IE9 more "secure" than all others except in a M$ funded report? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374344,00.asp | Mar 11 07:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update: http://wlcentral.org/ !wl | Mar 11 07:20 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if they really want to emulate Mac OS, they should turn off all their security features and leave critical bugs unpatched for 8-9 months | Mar 11 07:21 |
| MinceR | they might do just that | Mar 11 07:21 |
| MinceR | or the product pitch will be "it's just like macos, except gratis and less insecure" | Mar 11 07:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Intellectual Property Demands for #TPP Leak: Everything it Wanted in ACTA But Didn't Get - http://bit.ly/gBcFB0 great summary | Mar 11 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @p2pnet Activists declare March 20 Saudi Revolution. 'Democracy is Islam' http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49833 | Mar 11 07:22 | |
| DaemonFC | at least they finally did get rid of JAVA | Mar 11 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | they never supported it well anyway and the thing leaks like a sieve | Mar 11 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's bad enough if it is up to date | Mar 11 07:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Popping out for a smoke... | Mar 11 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL!!! :D ♺ @dickturpin: Here it is folks my "I was insulted by Fab" badge http://tinyurl.com/6bnubah Just a bit of fun #lo | Mar 11 07:24 | |
| MinceR | i don't agree with that decision | Mar 11 07:25 |
| MinceR | it was in many ways saner than crApple stuff and crApple platforms | Mar 11 07:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @GadgetZoneRO: RT @gsmdome: #Motorola Xoom Already Updated! Receives Flash Player 10.2 Support Via OTA Today http://gsmdo.me/ftJvX1 | Mar 11 07:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @legiinternet: Hai sa comentam o stire care nu exista - fuziunea UPC - RDS. CC are opinia normala "pe ce sa comentam?" http://is.gd/Dil8IZ | Mar 11 07:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @mageia Blog info: now, EN: http://dlvr.it/Jx3W8 and PT: http://dlvr.it/Jx3WB Update your bookmarks/readers! :-) !mageia | Mar 11 07:25 | |
| MinceR | that's not saying much, but anyway | Mar 11 07:25 |
| MinceR | doesn't surprise me though, after the stuff they did on hypeOS... | Mar 11 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | yes they did that to prop up their own business | Mar 11 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't mean JAVA is any good | Mar 11 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 07:26 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean whatever users will be stuck with is any better | Mar 11 07:27 |
| cubezzz | I still use java applets from 1996 | Mar 11 07:28 |
| cubezzz | they still work | Mar 11 07:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Morse code translator http://is.gd/X9ZkVZ fully adjustable #morse #telegraphy #software | Mar 11 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what exactly is an "intellectual property activist?" http://tighturl.com/2zwt with Florian Meuller listed as one, I guess it means pro-IP | Mar 11 07:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] aka "an activist seeking to expand IP laws into everywhere so their employers monopolies are assured" | Mar 11 07:30 | |
| cubezzz | prefer using C and Xlib though | Mar 11 07:31 |
| cubezzz | not as universal but it runs on Linux & BSD | Mar 11 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, this is interesting | Mar 11 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | the latest free radeon stack is about 2/3rds the speed of Catalyst on my 4670 | Mar 11 07:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #China housing boom resists property tax squeeze http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12686549 #social #harmoney | Mar 11 07:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Right now's the time to download and set up Sahana. FOSS disaster-management software. http://sahanafoundation.org/ | Mar 11 07:32 | |
| DaemonFC | at least on Sauerbraten B-) | Mar 11 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | the gap is narrowing at least | Mar 11 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | maybe sometime before the end of the world my 5670 with work well too :) | Mar 11 07:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORGZine - http://bit.ly/epKa4Z nothing to do with Wilhelm Reich, alas, but a rather good new online mag from those right-on #ORG people | Mar 11 07:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] there is a too big gap between poor and rich; economic inequality. | Mar 11 07:34 | |
| DaemonFC | the free software stack is perverse like that | Mar 11 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | the older your stuff is the better it works | Mar 11 07:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] ircd-seven v1.1 is being rolled out on freenode soon !irc | Mar 11 07:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] top brass such as coppers and politicians really need their asses legally handed to them when they knowingly lie http://tighturl.com/2zwu | Mar 11 07:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to fill in the UK #census form - http://bit.ly/gdjvqn excellent stuff; comments are rather good, too (v @elmyra) | Mar 11 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu Ambiance / Radiance Themes Are Now Borderless [Ubuntu #Natty Updates] http://goo.gl/rX4tG | Mar 11 07:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dear #TVLicense enforcers, my shredder has gotten addicted to your threats, it's having withdrawals since you stopped sending them (pt1) | Mar 11 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would you please have some sympathy for my shredder and send me some more threatening letters? Thanks #WontSomeoneThinkOfTheShredders (pt2) | Mar 11 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @bethnoveck: Danny Weitzner, former MIT, W3C, NTIA, now new US Deputy CTO for Internet Policy. http://bit.ly/id5EIQ #opengov | Mar 11 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rubber stamp really rd @skinnylatte the president of Singapore now makes something like 4.2 bloody million dollars. For being a figurehead. | Mar 11 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rd @skinnylatte Of course there was no debate at all about his pay rise of 800 thousand dollars. | Mar 11 07:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh for some reason I pictured "crazy shit" as Mel Gibson doing his crazy act while sitting on the throne with his trousers at his ankles | Mar 11 07:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Earthquake turns TV networks into print - http://bit.ly/gD1xgw good analysis (v @mathewi) #media | Mar 11 07:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CJCherryh: OK, friends, —NOW YOU CAN HELP US!!!: Jane’s Groundties is up on Amazon Kindle... http://bit.ly/hfQOfz | Mar 11 07:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having handwriting that's almost impossible to read (even for me) is handy to legally do things like the census | Mar 11 08:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] downside is that I don't choose to have bad handwriting, 99.995 of the time I really wish I didn't have it | Mar 11 08:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, census - "job - paid skivy" | Mar 11 08:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft To Lose Control Of Netbook World By Patrick Gassert http://ping.fm/Y56r5 | Mar 11 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] The history of #science #fiction http://scimaps.org/submissions/7-digital_libraries/maps/thumbs/024_LG.jpg #sciencefiction, #geek | Mar 11 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ggreenwald confirmation of PJ Crowley's condemnation of #Manning's detention conditions - called it "mistreatment" http://is.gd/OvFXnf | Mar 11 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Microsoft To Lose Control Of Netbook World By Patrick Gassert http://ping.fm/Y56r5 | Mar 11 08:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a2Sc0Tuqp8&feature=related | Mar 11 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | love that movie | Mar 11 08:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Miguel de Icaza respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 http://ping.fm/7MxXt | Mar 11 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Average Brit has three mysterious keys - http://bit.ly/fMKOB4 what a perfectly wonderful stat | Mar 11 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] copy cat! http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-simple-programs-manage-multiple-windows/ #fb | Mar 11 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @txt ♻ @lovenemesis GPL expert gives Red Hat the all-clear: http://is.gd/QHTtI3 !gnu !linux | Mar 11 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jimmac Huge fires is not quite the thing on my mind when someone says tsunami. http://is.gd/VbvPoL | Mar 11 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: U.S. Intellectual Property Demands for #TPP Leak: Everything it Wanted in ACTA But Didn't Get - http://bit.ly/gBcFB0 ... | Mar 11 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Ambiance / Radiance Themes Are Now Borderless [Ubuntu 11.04 Updates] http://bit.ly/fQBEx4 | Mar 11 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Is an American ‘Day of Rage’ nigh? Could it be? http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49832 | Mar 11 08:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I give up trying to get GRUB to recognize my display settings | Mar 11 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | now I see why so many distributions aren't using GRUB 2 | Mar 11 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's less buggy but the configuration is a nightmare | Mar 11 08:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Are all M$ corporate-types stand-up comics? http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/03/10/microsoft_on_the_cloud/ #fb | Mar 11 08:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mohanpram Hopefully gPodder will be available on !android one of these days | Mar 11 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rd @martinvars Work just finished, bravo to our engineers in Madrid, over 1/2mill Fon hotspots now open & free in Japan http://bit.ly/hcXyac | Mar 11 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with author of The 100 Thing Challenge - http://bit.ly/efsKRa "cannot buy the stuff we all long for the most"; good insights | Mar 11 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #minecraft is becoming my new IRC. | Mar 11 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @caostheory Novell's sale to Attachmate has been delayed until at least April 12, due to concerns related to patent sale. http://bit. ... | Mar 11 08:37 | |
| DaemonFC | some German company has backported KDE 4.6.1 to Mandriva 2010.2 | Mar 11 08:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Important is Software? Generational Differences Between Software Producers - http://bit.ly/fh4Vgh useful categorisation #freesw #data | Mar 11 08:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @claudiom: My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in Japan, Hawaii, and anywhere else that will be affected by the tsunamis. | Mar 11 08:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb @claudiom: My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in Japan, Hawaii, and anywhere else that will be affected by tsunamis | Mar 11 08:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] still not used to hearing church bells several times a day. they sound foreign and quaint to my canuck ears :) | Mar 11 09:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] reject #ACTA by whatever name they choose to rewrap and reheat it http://tighturl.com/2zwz #TPP #anticonsumer | Mar 11 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] does the name "penile colony" suggest an unwanted party in the showers as part of the deterrent? #penalcolony | Mar 11 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla Moves On (ComputerWorld) http://lwn.net/Articles/433053/rss | Mar 11 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WTF? Prince Andrew to take "human rights awareness training" These people are BRED to rule, qualified by DNA http://tighturl.com/2zx1 | Mar 11 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fosspatents "non-judgemental" does not sit with "activist", activist implies an active role, which implies taking a stance and promoting it | Mar 11 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will #LadyBoyGaGa be suing #Kajagoogoo over similar sounding baby noises? "My fans may mistake the garbling of a toddler for my work" | Mar 11 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @DanielEllsberg: Rally for Bradley, 3/20 at Quantico- I'll be speaking there http://bit.ly/fN8Gvq /via @ioerror !wikileaks #Manning | Mar 11 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia: Transition to #Windows Phone to take about two years - http://zd.net/ejXBZS a mere 14 years on Internet time... #doomed | Mar 11 09:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] While neither deal resulted in Microsoft purchasing another company, (...) | Mar 11 09:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] (...) Microsoft is getting most, if not all, of the things it wanted from each of those partners (...) | Mar 11 09:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh: I think ocelots like to eat birds ;) | Mar 11 09:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] (...)without actually having to pay for the entire company and then integrate it into the mothership. Mary Jo Foley http://ur1.ca/3gvdq | Mar 11 09:39 | |
| DaemonFC | jono: I've learned something wrestling with Chrome and AppArmor | Mar 11 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | they just can't get along | Mar 11 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] am I the only person who thinks ANY office tasks like word processing on a #smartphone would be hell? regardless of the platform | Mar 11 09:42 | |
| DaemonFC | I doubt there's one folder on disk it doesn't touch or in /proc or /sys that it doesn't mmap | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is insane | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | and every time they bump the version it does something to break your working AppArmor profile :) | Mar 11 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Nice concise handout: 7 Things You Should Know About Open Textbook Publishing - http://goo.gl/W7CUY #CC #OER | Mar 11 09:44 | |
| *DaemonFC wonders what the story is with GRUB 2 on OpenSuse | Mar 11 09:44 | |
| DaemonFC | is it going to let me choose it at install time or do I have to cross my fingers that update-grub won't freeze and I can get rebooted at least once, so I can do it myself? :) | Mar 11 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB 1 is some seriously fucked up shit | Mar 11 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Worst job in New York pays $22/hour: http://wrd.tw/hEqgNC | Mar 11 09:45 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and New York is also where they impose a tax on sliced bagels and soda pop | Mar 11 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | you need $22 an hour just to break even with minimum wage anywhere else | Mar 11 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | the Democrats have attached a tax to everything | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | tax the poor and take their guns | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | good strategy | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | very logical | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | don't you agree MinceR? :) | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | sounds almost like a feudal system to me | Mar 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | Sire, the peasants are revolting! | Mar 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | "They've always been revolting, now they're rebelling!" | Mar 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Condolences to our friends in #Nihon (aka #Japan—I strongly dislike exonyms). | Mar 11 09:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't see how they can say they're the party of the working man, if they were they'd be going after the millionaires and billionaires and quit trying to figure out how to tax my breakfast | Mar 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | this mess all happened because they stopped being a labor party and starting making a three ringed circus out of minorities | Mar 11 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There was a minor scandal back when Clinton was running in '96 | Mar 11 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | he had his guys out bribing homeless people to vote with packs of cigarettes | Mar 11 09:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Prepare for the deluge of nonsense that'll surely come from #religious #fundies trying to "explain" the #tsunami in #Nihon. | Mar 11 09:54 | |
| DaemonFC | I see that OMG SUSE! has managed to make an entire page about GRUB2 without saying whether or not it's an option in the installer | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Danger, danger Will Robinson! GRUB 1 is a pile of shit and will eat your XFS file systems for breakfast!" | Mar 11 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 09:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Thanks Everybody who meet me and had discussion at KDEConf, #kdeconf #confkdein | Mar 11 09:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora's answer is that if you want to use XFS, make a separate boot partition with ext* and crap up your partition table needlessly to work around their buggy bootloader | Mar 11 09:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: here the nazis want to put extra tax on foods they've decided are unhealthy | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | then if you get the bright idea to install GRUB 2 yourself, it will chainload the thing from GRUB 1! | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | and if you think about installing it to the MBR, then "grubby" won't add new kernels to your menu | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 09:58 |
| MinceR | i think it's the christian nazi party, they're the ones who like to pretend they're turning morals into law | Mar 11 09:58 |
| MinceR | (of course it's bullshit christian morality) | Mar 11 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, we can't let you weigh more than the government approved amount, unless you pay us to ignore it | Mar 11 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | same policy as "global warming" | Mar 11 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | coincidence? :D | Mar 11 09:59 |
| MinceR | not really the same | Mar 11 09:59 |
| MinceR | 1) i can weigh less even if i eat those things | Mar 11 09:59 |
| MinceR | 2) by weighing more, i'm still not destroying the biosphere the entire human race depends on for its survival | Mar 11 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's all about controlling behavior via the tax code | Mar 11 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | it is fascism | Mar 11 10:00 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Mar 11 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | get insurance or else! | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | but I can't afford it! I can barely make my rent as is | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fine, we'll just up your taxes instead and give you nothing | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | hahaha | Mar 11 10:01 |
| MinceR | we have tax disguised as insurance | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | you WILL enrich the corporate insurance cartels! | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | comply, comply! | Mar 11 10:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I just got side popup, Firefox 4 RC 1 is available ! but i am still using beta 1, cause I love firebug... | Mar 11 10:02 | |
| DaemonFC | if it was socialism, the plan would be ran by the government and rationed out, this is crony capitalism | Mar 11 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | the main difference is who does the rationing and for what reason | Mar 11 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | now everyone gets "managed care" | Mar 11 10:04 |
| MinceR | i think we got national socialism | Mar 11 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Oh look, we can save $5 by amputating your arms instead of treating your diabetes! | Mar 11 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | let's do that | Mar 11 10:04 |
| MinceR | with state-sponsored impediments to competition | Mar 11 10:04 |
| MinceR | and socialization of property | Mar 11 10:04 |
| MinceR | and a lot of nationalist propaganda on top | Mar 11 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | socialists always know how to spend other peoples money | Mar 11 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | better than you can manage it yourself in fact | Mar 11 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] In Austin for #SXSW? Stop by the Fedora Project booth (344) next week for info on CC: http://bit.ly/eaAJND | Mar 11 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If I only could get @methoddan into #Minecraft. We could do a show from there.... :D | Mar 11 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my 1st college ID had the wrong DOB making me 8mths old, I wish I'd kept it as a memento instead of getting it fixed | Mar 11 10:05 | |
| DaemonFC | didn't you know that for every 10 people who pay taxes, someone gets to sit on their ass and claim disability for "depression"? | Mar 11 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's so fucking awesome! | Mar 11 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | my cousin's mother in law gets $2,200 a month, tax free | Mar 11 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | because she is "depressed" | Mar 11 10:06 |
| MinceR | i'm being repressed | Mar 11 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | she was trying to bum money off me for cigarettes | Mar 11 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Slit your wrists or go back to work already!" | Mar 11 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | we haven't spoken much since :) | Mar 11 10:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 10:07 |
| MinceR | "remember kids, it's down the road, not across the street!" | Mar 11 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | attention, attention (side to side) | Mar 11 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | for real, for real (up and down) | Mar 11 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 11 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be damned if someone who makes more than I do and doesn't have to work for it, and pays no taxes is going to bum $5 from me for a pack of cigarettes | Mar 11 10:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 11 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | let me bust out my little violin | Mar 11 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 11 10:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/433041/rss | Mar 11 10:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just as well registering a domain name and throwing a site up doesn't require a sanity test http://qubitarkhive.com/ lol | Mar 11 10:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Made some contributions for utouch and now Canonical asks me to sign a CCA. I asked for one that promises to keep them as !FreeSoftware | Mar 11 10:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another problem is that I have moral rights which are inalienable, and with them I can also enforce software freedom. | Mar 11 10:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Not always, though. ♺ @fabsh: @nailuj Why? It's a good argument. Copyright assignment is crap. It only serves coporate monetary interests. | Mar 11 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I already give people the four freedoms. That has to be enough. The copyright stays mine! Nobody needs that on top. Unreasonable. | Mar 11 10:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] State Department flack @PJCrowley transcript http://is.gd/09qK8m !wl | Mar 11 10:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn, fast funk rhythm makes yer strummin' arm ache in short order | Mar 11 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Nevernote Ubuntu PPA http://bit.ly/fx07ng | Mar 11 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Postler, Dexter, Midori, Etc. From A New Elementary Desktop PPA http://bit.ly/eKwwRC | Mar 11 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh respecting others' freedoms is great, but *defending* them may require copyright standing and legal action | Mar 11 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh so unless you're willing and going to defend freedom, transfer the © to the FSF so they can do so and keep the software Free | Mar 11 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Hey wait, I got the best way to create presentations, Create it using Markdown and find the way to convert it into Beamer or/and S5/S9(ruby) | Mar 11 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Indicator-Network is looking good in #Natty http://goo.gl/N7rUb | Mar 11 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Light-themes go borderless for #Natty http://goo.gl/CZvIP | Mar 11 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Twitter: Please sort out your messaging system. It SUCKS. #Twitterfail | Mar 11 10:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] You know it's more fun following @pmoharper the satire account than the real @pmharper - I think that this is a sad sign for democracy. | Mar 11 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] acabo de ter o prazer de confirmar o pedido de portabilidade da Telefonica para a GVT | Mar 11 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #Nokia: Transition to #Windows Phone to take about two years - http://zd.net/ejXBZS - mere 14 years in Internet time #doomed | Mar 11 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “se essa oferta houvesse sido feita *antes*, quando a gente pediu, poderíamos pensar em ficar. agora é tarde demais” | Mar 11 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Can't enough of the song "#Jesus Saves!" from the album #Maranatha by #FuneralMist. http://ur1.ca/3gvxv #blackmetal | Mar 11 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Can't get enough of the song "#Jesus Saves!" from the album #Maranatha by #FuneralMist. http://ur1.ca/3gvxv #blackmetal | Mar 11 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ElizabethMay: Reports of 2 Japanese nuclear reactors not yet shut down. They are evacuating a 2 km area around them. Very worrying #GPC | Mar 11 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Install #Postler, #Dexter, #Midori, Etc. From A New #Elementary Desktop !PPA http://goo.gl/OOj9w | Mar 11 11:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Neary - Lessons learned: "Deep mistrust has developed between !Canonical, !GNOME & KDE" http://goo.gl/FYS4o !u | Mar 11 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Atualizando as bases de dados do Clamav – Freshclam: p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }Quando se instala o ... http://bit.ly/dPQ8Ky | Mar 11 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Internet Explorer 9 Will Never Be Number One - PCWorld Business Center http://ow.ly/4cHkq | Mar 11 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Een mogelijke Amerikaanse strafvervolging van Rob Gonggrijp wegens zijn vermeende betrokkenheid bij Wikileaks http://is.gd/ITpT2O !wl | Mar 11 11:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Adobe Flash 10.2 coming to Xoom and !Android phones March 18 http://goo.gl/fDvB5 | Mar 11 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: YouTube’s move to more premium content is good news for Google TV http://goo.gl/8UxtA !android | Mar 11 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva I'm prepared to do that for myself, not others though... | Mar 11 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Nope. Nobody gets my copyright. Besides, I can't transfer it under German law apparently (IANAL). | Mar 11 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ARGH comet.co.uk has javascript EVERYWHERE, shit popping up, sliding in everywhere you move the pointer, takes AGES to render pages too | Mar 11 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We need right-to-left support in our website CSS. Can you help us? See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2692 for more info. | Mar 11 11:34 | |
| GoForbes28 | Friends, meet the sucessor to the beloved ACTA http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MichaelGeistsBlog/~3/FwTgtEhc-38/ | Mar 11 11:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We've been nominated for the Index on Censorship New Media Award: http://indexoncensorship.org/2011/03/free-expression-awards-2011-new-media | Mar 11 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Apple fanboy zealots are really a sad sad bunch http://goo.gl/fnz54 | Mar 11 11:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gbagbo exclusively funds Ble Goude with Ivorian taxpayers' money for years http://alturl.com/2arpk !wl | Mar 11 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Pleased to see CRTC opening #UBB review online + public hearing. Also will get a real debate on "congestion". /2 | Mar 11 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: CRTC focussed on #UBB but door must still be open to Canadians' broader concerns re pricing & competition. | Mar 11 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @evan: “Roll Your Own Foursquare: Ushahidi Launches Open-Source Location Service” — http://ur1.ca/3gwer Nice! Is it federated? #fsw | Mar 11 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @scifly: @fabsh precisely, writing floss software, the only right I retain is the authorship, and I won't give that up. | Mar 11 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva under Portuguese law we have the traditional copyright + moral rights (and these are inalienable). | Mar 11 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 176 dents! | Mar 11 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] about 90% settled on an Intel i3 laptop, Acer? Asus? HP? Dell? others? not quite sure as yet | Mar 11 11:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Novell sale to Attachmate delayed until April - due to DoJ patent investigation (InternetNews): http://bit.ly/dGBHzZ | Mar 11 11:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #bancarrotasocrates: ora aí está mais um PEC, tb conhecido por bancarrota4.... os mesmos de sempre pagam e calam! http://ur1.ca/3gwjm | Mar 11 11:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @threethirty @xenijardin @JPBarlow: "The entire coast of Japan has permanently moved 8ft (2.4m) after this earthquake" | Mar 11 11:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | Man, the world sucks, doesn't it | Mar 11 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @evan: “Roll Your Own Foursquare: Ushahidi Launches FOSS Location Service” — http://ur1.ca/3gwer Nice! Is it federated? cc @afromusing | Mar 11 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Owen Taylor on !GNOME vs !Canonical: What does the user see? http://goo.gl/BQ9Tv !u | Mar 11 12:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Please! Demand equal treatment for the #Army’s #nonreligious soldiers http://ur1.ca/3gwlq #discrimination #secular | Mar 11 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Friday's Featured Merchandise: Get your "fresh kernels" here: http://bit.ly/aUuYRZ #linux | Mar 11 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Plopp. Flensburger Pilsener. :) | Mar 11 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] o | Mar 11 12:09 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Hi Jake | Mar 11 12:10 |
| jake | hey | Mar 11 12:10 |
| GoForbes28 | what brings you here? | Mar 11 12:10 |
| jake | you guys might be interested in this: http://twitter.com/#!/koush/status/46299788655869952 | Mar 11 12:10 |
| jake | Motorola Xoom is bundled with Mono | Mar 11 12:11 |
| jake | I assume it's not part of Honeycomb itself | Mar 11 12:11 |
| GoForbes28 | That is indeed interested | Mar 11 12:11 |
| GoForbes28 | interesting | Mar 11 12:11 |
| GoForbes28 | unfortunately, Roy is moving right now | Mar 11 12:12 |
| GoForbes28 | I will add it to the Wiki | Mar 11 12:12 |
| jake | ok | Mar 11 12:12 |
| bentkus | with mono or monodroid? | Mar 11 12:12 |
| jake | Mono, looks like as part of Unity3D | Mar 11 12:13 |
| bentkus | now .net is everywhere | Mar 11 12:13 |
| jake | yea, poisoning everything | Mar 11 12:14 |
| bentkus | stupid C# developers | Mar 11 12:14 |
| jake | yea | Mar 11 12:14 |
| GoForbes28 | We just need to be a bit more careful choosing software products | Mar 11 12:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Including Free software | Mar 11 12:15 |
| GoForbes28 | KDE and XFCE, will never include mono AFAIK | Mar 11 12:15 |
| jake | that's what they said about android too | Mar 11 12:16 |
| jake | but now look | Mar 11 12:16 |
| GoForbes28 | Thanks Jake, your tweet has been recorded | Mar 11 12:16 |
| jake | no prob, glad to help | Mar 11 12:16 |
| GoForbes28 | And yes, Android is a target, but it hasn't been dominated yet | Mar 11 12:16 |
| GoForbes28 | There is plenty of Mono-free android still | Mar 11 12:16 |
| jake | the Xoom is positioned to be a very popular tablet | Mar 11 12:17 |
| GoForbes28 | So is the iPad | Mar 11 12:17 |
| jake | yes, but iPad is Apple | Mar 11 12:17 |
| GoForbes28 | At least one of these can been worked with | Mar 11 12:17 |
| jake | and Xoom is Android | Mar 11 12:17 |
| bentkus | iPad is already full of freedom hating software so no biggy that they include mono | Mar 11 12:18 |
| jake | apparently Steve Jobs demoed a Mono app | Mar 11 12:18 |
| GoForbes28 | It's more likely an Android tablet will abandon mono than an Apple tablet will respect Freedom | Mar 11 12:18 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm just saying that the fact the iPad has been osteinally successful is evidence that the damage is done | Mar 11 12:18 |
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| bentkus | really? | Mar 11 12:19 |
| jake | GoForbes28: yea, you should start a campaign to petition Motorola to remove its Mono infection | Mar 11 12:19 |
| GoForbes28 | any change is for the better | Mar 11 12:19 |
| bentkus | jake: on viddeo? | Mar 11 12:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NoW #scumbags; the plot thickens. Hey they call themselves "news" they "must" be telling the truth right? lol http://tighturl.com/2zxm | Mar 11 12:19 | |
| GoForbes28 | BoycottMotorola? | Mar 11 12:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Buy Acer, that's the least tainted one right now | Mar 11 12:19 |
| jake | bentkus: yes, demoed on the iPad2 in his presentation | Mar 11 12:19 |
| jake | lemme find the link | Mar 11 12:19 |
| bentkus | mono must truelly be bad if even steb jobs touches it | Mar 11 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what was it they repeatedly claimed again? oh yes "one rotten apple" #bullshit | Mar 11 12:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM when asked about the situation in S.Arabia ignored the question and talked about what he wanted in the wider M.East #politics | Mar 11 12:20 | |
| jake | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031111-deicaza-gnome-ipad2.html | Mar 11 12:20 |
| tuxmania | They allow mono, but not flash? | Mar 11 12:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Nah, mono just links up perfectly to Jobs' lock-down ideals and Free software rejection | Mar 11 12:21 |
| MinceR | except that blow doesn't control .net/mono | Mar 11 12:21 |
| jake | Mono is picking up steam as a platform for mobile game development, and an Android version will soon be released to complement Mono for iPhone, which is a proprietary product from Novell, de Icaza says. Apple's Steve Jobs recently showcased an app built with Mono (Rome -- Virtual History) while demonstrating the new iPad, according to de Icaza. | Mar 11 12:21 |
| MinceR | so he's being kind of stupid now | Mar 11 12:21 |
| GoForbes28 | It shows that the Microsoft-Apple feud is a theatre act | Mar 11 12:21 |
| jake | sorry, that's a quote from the article | Mar 11 12:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Underneath, they want exactly the same thing | Mar 11 12:22 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: indeed, sometimes it's revealed | Mar 11 12:22 |
| tuxmania | mono is the slowest pile of manure i know of, advanced games will be impossible | Mar 11 12:22 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: As in this case | Mar 11 12:22 |
| GoForbes28 | Thanks goodness that QT and GTK programmed in C exists | Mar 11 12:23 |
| tuxmania | Apple loves OSS as long as it has a rape and pillage license attached like BSD style licenses. | Mar 11 12:23 |
| bentkus | in C? | Mar 11 12:23 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Mar 11 12:23 |
| MinceR | perhaps crApple has sw patents on .net/mono? | Mar 11 12:23 |
| bentkus | Qt is not even C++ | Mar 11 12:23 |
| GoForbes28 | XFCE is progammed in C | Mar 11 12:23 |
| bentkus | And nokia drops it like its hot, drops like its hot | Mar 11 12:23 |
| MinceR | Qt is programmed in C++ :> | Mar 11 12:23 |
| bentkus | no its not | Mar 11 12:23 |
| tuxmania | bentkus: well, not nokia but their bulvan from Microsoft. | Mar 11 12:24 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I said GTK in C, not QT AND GTK in C | Mar 11 12:24 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 11 12:24 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: XFCE is programmed entirely in C | Mar 11 12:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Runs contrary to mono, doesn't it? | Mar 11 12:24 |
| jake | so was GNOME | Mar 11 12:25 |
| jake | entirely in C | Mar 11 12:25 |
| jake | until Mono came along | Mar 11 12:25 |
| bentkus | mono is written in C | Mar 11 12:25 |
| tuxmania | Ive adopted LXDE instead of Gnome since the mono-fest started. | Mar 11 12:25 |
| bentkus | jake: and there are a shitload of apps in gnome using python and ruby | Mar 11 12:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if this is #Clinton's usual #hypocrisy the public will be the opposite of private sentiments http://tighturl.com/2zxn #Manning | Mar 11 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I don't expect special #Linux treatment, just build standard stuff so it doesn't impede linux, standards are good for ALL OS's inc #Windows | Mar 11 12:25 | |
| bentkus | i'm using the awesome window manager | Mar 11 12:26 |
| MinceR | that "shitload" isn't going to shield you from patent lawsuits | Mar 11 12:26 |
| bentkus | because gnome wasn't awesome enough | Mar 11 12:26 |
| GoForbes28 | XFCE and KDE will likely remain mono for the future | Mar 11 12:26 |
| GoForbes28 | LX | Mar 11 12:26 |
| GoForbes28 | DE is XFCE with OpenBox | Mar 11 12:26 |
| bentkus | you mean mono free? | Mar 11 12:26 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Mar 11 12:27 |
| GoForbes28 | sorry | Mar 11 12:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Set All Applications To Use Overlay Scrollbars In Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal http://bit.ly/h2ALLa | Mar 11 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @linuxquestions: Lessons learned by @nearyd - Analysis of the conflict among Canonical, GNOME, and KDE http://bit.ly/eWUCXt | Mar 11 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Live image 0.1.0 released - Geeko strikes back http://goo.gl/njc0U | Mar 11 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] MT @rms bank CEOs violated Sarbanes Oxley law requiring..adequate internal controls. President doesn't want to prosecute http://ur1.ca/3gwr9 | Mar 11 12:27 | |
| GoForbes28 | Isn't ironic that Mono is also a contagious disease? | Mar 11 12:27 |
| bentkus | but they have already C# bindings! | Mar 11 12:27 |
| GoForbes28 | How appropriate | Mar 11 12:28 |
| bentkus | How is it contagious? | Mar 11 12:28 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: Who has said bindings? | Mar 11 12:28 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: The disease or the software? | Mar 11 12:28 |
| jake | I think he means XFCE has Mono bindings | Mar 11 12:28 |
| bentkus | the software | Mar 11 12:28 |
| GoForbes28 | well, look how it spreads | Mar 11 12:29 |
| GoForbes28 | jake: Do we have a link for this? | Mar 11 12:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Like a developer statement or something? | Mar 11 12:29 |
| bentkus | it doesn't spread by design, it spreads by choice | Mar 11 12:30 |
| jake | I just assumed that's what bentkus was saying, I don't know if it is true or not | Mar 11 12:30 |
| MinceR | whose choice? | Mar 11 12:30 |
| bentkus | I said that kde has mono bindings | Mar 11 12:30 |
| jake | oh, KDE | Mar 11 12:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: On the relationship between !Canonical and !GNOME http://goo.gl/HSyeJ | Mar 11 12:30 | |
| GoForbes28 | It spreads by ignorance and sloppy practices, like a disease | Mar 11 12:30 |
| bentkus | MinceR: the people who take it and develop an app for it | Mar 11 12:30 |
| jake | sorry, misunderstood | Mar 11 12:30 |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah, but QT and Mono conflict with each other, no? | Mar 11 12:31 |
| jake | GoForbes28: no | Mar 11 12:31 |
| MinceR | bentkus: so you think that the people who control the desktop environment project itself don't have a say in what apps they endorse? | Mar 11 12:31 |
| bentkus | why should it conflict? | Mar 11 12:31 |
| GoForbes28 | QT more or less does what Mono can do, beter | Mar 11 12:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I meant conflict in a redundancy sense | Mar 11 12:31 |
| jake | GoForbes28: Qt is a widget toolkit, Mono is a VM | Mar 11 12:31 |
| jake | they do not conflict | Mar 11 12:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I remember reading that programming in QT allowed for similar opportunities that Mono supposedly has | Mar 11 12:32 |
| MinceR | Qt is not just a widget toolkit | Mar 11 12:32 |
| MinceR | it's also a crossplatform portability toolkit | Mar 11 12:32 |
| GoForbes28 | In regards to object-based programming | Mar 11 12:32 |
| bentkus | MinceR: I didn't say nothing about that, I said that developers choose the language they like most | Mar 11 12:32 |
| MinceR | including stuff to cover up weaknesses of certain C++ compilers | Mar 11 12:32 |
| bentkus | MinceR: the people in gnome will choose the best app for the job | Mar 11 12:33 |
| bentkus | if it is written in C#, they will take it | Mar 11 12:33 |
| MinceR | or so you say it's the best app for the job | Mar 11 12:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Too bad that "best app" is a deceptive term | Mar 11 12:33 |
| MinceR | and which job is it anyway? entrenching m$'s patents into gnu/linux to allow a lawsuit? | Mar 11 12:33 |
| bentkus | If you don't want to see mono apps in gnome, quite bitching and start contributing to the alternatives | Mar 11 12:33 |
| bentkus | quit* | Mar 11 12:34 |
| GoForbes28 | .net application tend to be slower and more bloated | Mar 11 12:34 |
| MinceR | i'm simply not using gnome | Mar 11 12:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: Thoughts on !GNOME http://goo.gl/NYA2u | Mar 11 12:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Please join us in supporting all of our Japanese members and colleagues today and in the difficult weeks ahead. #tsunami | Mar 11 12:34 | |
| GoForbes28 | Me neither | Mar 11 12:34 |
| bentkus | GoForbes28: compared to what? | Mar 11 12:34 |
| MinceR | bentkus: also, i'm not bitching | Mar 11 12:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I already had a preference before this mess anyways | Mar 11 12:34 |
| jake | GoForbes28: well, I suppose in a way. But it's not Qt that allows OO programming, it's the C++ language that does. | Mar 11 12:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Regular C++ applications or C applications? | Mar 11 12:34 |
| GoForbes28 | That was to bentkus | Mar 11 12:34 |
| bentkus | But they have no garbage collection | Mar 11 12:35 |
| bentkus | how can you compare them? | Mar 11 12:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Simple | Mar 11 12:35 |
| MinceR | C++ can use garbage collection | Mar 11 12:35 |
| MinceR | there is at least one actual gc library for it, in fact | Mar 11 12:35 |
| jake | Boehm GC right? | Mar 11 12:35 |
| GoForbes28 | I seem how much space it takes install said application and how well in performance | Mar 11 12:35 |
| MinceR | yes | Mar 11 12:36 |
| GoForbes28 | compared to actual objective functionality | Mar 11 12:36 |
| GoForbes28 | .NET has no benefits whatsoever | Mar 11 12:36 |
| jake | MinceR: doesn't Mono use Boehm too? | Mar 11 12:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Mar 11 12:36 |
| bentkus | no they dont | Mar 11 12:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Unless you want your apps to require a 50+mb framework and look similar to a webpage | Mar 11 12:37 |
| jake | what do you mean similar to a web page? | Mar 11 12:37 |
| bentkus | the facts that you suggested state that you don't like virtual machines | Mar 11 12:37 |
| bentkus | not that you don't like mono | Mar 11 12:37 |
| GoForbes28 | A lot of .net application I find tend to take the look-and-feel of web pages | Mar 11 12:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, Java VM is smaller | Mar 11 12:38 |
| GoForbes28 | and has better backward's compatiblity | Mar 11 12:38 |
| bentkus | :D | Mar 11 12:38 |
| jake | GoForbes28: actually, Mono is smaller than Java | Mar 11 12:38 |
| GoForbes28 | there is a place of VM-based langurages | Mar 11 12:38 |
| jake | a LOT smaller | Mar 11 12:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm talking about .net here | Mar 11 12:38 |
| bentkus | no, you are just talking | Mar 11 12:39 |
| MinceR | btw, Qt is written in C++, of course | Mar 11 12:39 |
| MinceR | i just checked | Mar 11 12:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh bacon? You spelled "kipper" wrong | Mar 11 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's Cindy Cohn talking about surveillance in the movies right now at #SXSW: "Big Brother on the Big Screen", Hilton Salon F/G | Mar 11 12:39 | |
| GoForbes28 | after all, isn't that the ideal implementation, straight from the original manufacturer itself? | Mar 11 12:39 |
| MinceR | bentkus: so stop bullshitting us | Mar 11 12:39 |
| bentkus | MinceR: no it's not | Mar 11 12:39 |
| MinceR | try looking at the source package | Mar 11 12:39 |
| GoForbes28 | On Windows, you are recommended to install 4 versions of .net framework | Mar 11 12:39 |
| jake | I guess you could say Qt isn't C++ in the same way that GObject isn't C | Mar 11 12:40 |
| jake | in that they extend the languages they are built upon | Mar 11 12:40 |
| GoForbes28 | As I said, VM-based languages have a place | Mar 11 12:40 |
| GoForbes28 | They don't take the place of native langurages | Mar 11 12:40 |
| bentkus | does gojebct need a special precompiler? | Mar 11 12:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL :D | Mar 11 12:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Wikipedia Search from Command Line http://tinyurl.com/4rr8bo7 #blog | Mar 11 12:40 | |
| jake | bentkus: no | Mar 11 12:41 |
| jake | you mean moc for Qt? | Mar 11 12:41 |
| bentkus | indeed | Mar 11 12:41 |
| jake | ok, but that is just a technical detail | Mar 11 12:42 |
| MinceR | guess what moc is written in :> | Mar 11 12:42 |
| jake | so it's an extension of C++, but still :) | Mar 11 12:42 |
| bentkus | MinceR: mono is written in C | Mar 11 12:42 |
| bentkus | so according to your logic that would mean? | Mar 11 12:42 |
| MinceR | bentkus: you seriously can't recognize C++ code if it's preprocessed via moc or are you just trolling me? | Mar 11 12:43 |
| MinceR | for the record, i have time for neither | Mar 11 12:44 |
| jake | hmmm, so in a way Qt is kinda like Vala... the preprocessor generates C++ for Qt and C for Vala | Mar 11 12:44 |
| GoForbes28 | andrius bentkus? | Mar 11 12:44 |
| jake | except the syntax for Qt is a lot closer to C++ than vala is to C | Mar 11 12:44 |
| bentkus | yes sherlock? | Mar 11 12:45 |
| jake | I can sort of see your point I guess, but it's a minor argument imho | Mar 11 12:45 |
| GoForbes28 | How often do you come here? | Mar 11 12:45 |
| bentkus | i have been idling for 4 months now | Mar 11 12:45 |
| GoForbes28 | I see | Mar 11 12:46 |
| GoForbes28 | No need to get riled | Mar 11 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @marjoleink: "Second quake strikes Japan": http://is.gd/MSyGQi <http://is.gd/MSyGQi> | Mar 11 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 2.6.32.33 #longterm review http://bit.ly/hDyIP9 #2632 "There are 17 patches in this series [...]" | Mar 11 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @marjoleink: "Second strong quake shakes Japan" http://is.gd/3aa7ZJ <- this says it IS an aftershock - reports differ... | Mar 11 12:47 | |
| GoForbes28 | Alright, that was fun | Mar 11 12:48 |
| jake | well, I'm off | Mar 11 12:48 |
| jake | later folks | Mar 11 12:48 |
| GoForbes28 | See you later | Mar 11 12:49 |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Have you seen the news regarding the ACTA successor? | Mar 11 12:49 |
| MinceR | nope | Mar 11 12:49 |
| MinceR | i'm interested | Mar 11 12:49 |
| bentkus | whats acta? | Mar 11 12:50 |
| GoForbes28 | Anti-counterfeiting trade agreement | Mar 11 12:50 |
| GoForbes28 | AKA the US corps pushing their copyright, patent, and trademark agenda to the world | Mar 11 12:50 |
| MinceR | discussed by (both elected and non-elected) in as much secret from the public as they could manage | Mar 11 12:51 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 11 12:51 |
| GoForbes28 | we only knew about it from leaks | Mar 11 12:51 |
| MinceR | s/\)/) politicians/ | Mar 11 12:51 |
| GoForbes28 | one of the earliest Wikileaks benefits to the world | Mar 11 12:52 |
| GoForbes28 | so TPP or acta II just tries to implement what the U.S. failed to push last time | Mar 11 12:52 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5686/125/ | Mar 11 12:52 |
| GoForbes28 | In other words, the U.S. is insane | Mar 11 12:52 |
| MinceR | and i suppose the EU leaders are still all very willing to discuss it in secret | Mar 11 12:52 |
| MinceR | even though it serves the interests of no citizen in the EU | Mar 11 12:53 |
| GoForbes28 | No world citizen for that matter | Mar 11 12:53 |
| MinceR | well, it does serve the interests of the major owners of a few usian megacorps | Mar 11 12:53 |
| GoForbes28 | Unless you count corporations as people like the U.S. gov't does | Mar 11 12:53 |
| GoForbes28 | and drug corps | Mar 11 12:54 |
| GoForbes28 | and media corps | Mar 11 12:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | and conglomerates | Mar 11 12:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So Holland is the most densley populated Euro country and by some margin http://bit.ly/fzKUcb I never knew that | Mar 11 12:54 | |
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| bentkus | poor people in holland | Mar 11 12:54 |
| bentkus | they even started shuffling earth on the sea to get some land | Mar 11 12:54 |
| bentkus | ;D | Mar 11 12:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | Hi DaemonFC | Mar 11 12:54 |
| bentkus | the world is a bad place | Mar 11 12:55 |
| bentkus | lets make it even worse | Mar 11 12:55 |
| GoForbes28 | We just had a great chat regarding Mono, .net, whether they use C, C++, etc, | Mar 11 12:55 |
| GoForbes28 | well hey, the did that to the copyright law in Canada | Mar 11 12:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[point/@point] Somos el enemigo !wl #libertad - http://alturl.com/f5c3r | Mar 11 12:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | Corporations are short-term, benefit me now entities | Mar 11 12:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Living in the moment | Mar 11 12:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Living on the line, and ignoring any crossing of said line | Mar 11 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat seems to do alright | Mar 11 12:57 |
| GoForbes28 | That may not last | Mar 11 12:57 |
| MinceR | they have a dark past though | Mar 11 12:57 |
| MinceR | pushing for sw patents in the EU | Mar 11 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wisconsin’s anti-worker law: An historic attack on the working class http://is.gd/6KBVrl #unionrights #democracy | Mar 11 12:57 | |
| GoForbes28 | One Microsoft entryism, BOOM | Mar 11 12:57 |
| MinceR | i guess they realized it wouldn't benefit them | Mar 11 12:57 |
| GoForbes28 | BTW all, I have created a Techright Wiki page to post twitter and other links for Roy to examine when he comes back | Mar 11 12:58 |
| GoForbes28 | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interesting_Tweets_During_Absenteeism | Mar 11 12:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 11 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] !heybuddy 0.2.1 Schenectady is probably carnivore crap https://launchpad.net/heybuddy/0.2/0.2.1 | Mar 11 12:59 | |
| GoForbes28 | anybody got something to contribute? | Mar 11 13:03 |
| GoForbes28 | *have something | Mar 11 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Venezuela, Cuba, Angola set up oil Joint Venture. http://is.gd/wM8mLc !Cubanews | Mar 11 13:05 | |
| GoForbes28 | well, if you do, just tell, or you can add it to the wiki page | Mar 11 13:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jonobacon: Sometimes I just really despise people - http://is.gd/qKkFZb | Mar 11 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @jonobacon: Sometimes I just really despise people - http://is.gd/qKkFZb < that is disgusting | Mar 11 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, I used to think #SnoopDogg was cool, having to revise that assessment now http://tighturl.com/2zxq #Symantec #Hacking #clueless | Mar 11 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Neary: Lessons learned http://lwn.net/Articles/433089/rss | Mar 11 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fuduntu 14.9 Stable Released, Replaces Bottom Gnome Panel With AWN http://bit.ly/h9ypAJ | Mar 11 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Mint irc channels down? | Mar 11 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Insane – Yep, That’s Me! - http://bit.ly/ib61O1 #amwriting | Mar 11 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Calling all browser and #linux geeks! @jzb invites you to test browser speed on Linux with this Weekend Project: http://bit.ly/g7bEMa | Mar 11 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP plagued by a DNS related issue with HP Virtual Connect: http://bit.ly/h5Qc3B | Mar 11 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US judge: Twitter must your info in Wikileaks secret espionage probe http://is.gd/Qsqcis !wl | Mar 11 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this is an example of just how consumer friendly #DRM is http://tighturl.com/2zxs note how many devices state DRM as a "feature" #FuckEA | Mar 11 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya ,French civil service must be cursing Sarkozy after he recognised opposition. French have crossed them from diplomatic book #foolish | Mar 11 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] @lxoliva Not so hyperbolic. To paraphrase #Moglen, ppl making freedom on the street depend on code more than ever—let's make sure it's !fs. | Mar 11 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Federal judge denies bid of three linked to Wikileaks to keep Twitter information secret http://is.gd/2pSzQy !wl | Mar 11 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Download #DraftSight - Free AutoCAD-Compatible 2D CAD Software For !Linux http://goo.gl/tAeAU | Mar 11 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple #iOS | Mar 11 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Wisconsin and workers rights on Al Jazeera again. | Mar 11 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple apparently don't care #iOS | Mar 11 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] DAMN reddit is slow today. | Mar 11 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb: 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple apparently don't care #iOS | Mar 11 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @encyclomundi: #twitter out to destroy creativity and user control of data...1st by crushing independent apps http://t.co/Jch8AmT | Mar 11 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] State Department spokesperson P.J. Crowley decries Bradley Manning's treatment as "counterproductive," "stupid" http://is.gd/Ifu8Pd | Mar 11 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another !LO is edited.... | Mar 11 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Novell Acquisition Delayed by DoJ Patent Investigation - Government IT - News & Reviews - eWeek.com http://ping.fm/KHMOZ | Mar 11 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ashcrow: #Japan warns of small radiation leak from plant: http://outl.ws/euwmWp -- US Air Force flies in coolant | Mar 11 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ten ways Windows fails but !Linux does not | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK http://ping.fm/009GE | Mar 11 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @spaz "Now Friends With Charlie Sheen, Twitter Tells Its Nerdy Old Pals to Drop Dead" hah! http://j.mp/gjIXCP | Mar 11 13:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Twitter accts of @ioerror @birgittaj @XS4ALL @wikileaks, unspecified associated others compromised by US DOJ: http://is.gd/LqRpgb !wikileaks | Mar 11 13:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Twitter accts of @ioerror @birgittaj @rop_g @wikileaks & unspecified associated others compromised by US DOJ: http://is.gd/LqRpgb !wikileaks | Mar 11 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Judgement in US v. WikiLeaks et al (pdf) http://is.gd/8w3Chf !wl | Mar 11 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Legalese re DOJ's ability to access !wikileaks & Bradley Manning supporters' #Twitter accts: http://ur1.ca/3gxe6 DMs NOT considered private! | Mar 11 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhhhh! Another Flens! | Mar 11 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange case in turmoil as accuser linked to police | SMH http://is.gd/6Tw4Q5 !wl | Mar 11 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @opensourcegeek: NASA to host open source conference http://www.nasa.gov/open/source/ | Mar 11 14:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Twitter tells me @springsteen is "similar to me". I WISH... Oo | Mar 11 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Download DraftSight - Free AutoCAD-Compatible 2D CAD Software For Linux http://bit.ly/g17UHQ | Mar 11 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal & 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot Countdown Banners http://bit.ly/fWsi40 | Mar 11 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] State Dept Official's comments about WikiLeaks suspect touch off furor http://is.gd/mzN3f4 !wl | Mar 11 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rogerdv Did you already preordered your copy of Oil rush game for !linux? Dont complain later about the lack of games | Mar 11 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Arab revolutions to spread to the US? A United States 'Day of Rage' is brewing http://alturl.com/prr8z !wl | Mar 11 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF will be at ACLU's @dotRights #partylikeits1986 80s bash on Sunday night -- hope to see you there! http://on.fb.me/h7hCJ4 #SXSW | Mar 11 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ellsberg: This shameful abuse of Bradley Manning http://is.gd/7ezLNw !wl | Mar 11 14:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Weekend Project: Benchmark Your Browsers on !Linux /by @linuxfoundation http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 14:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's gonna end badly, with Chromium running away with the prize @linuxfoundation re: http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 14:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Weekend Project: Benchmark Your Browsers on !Linux /by @linuxfoundation http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The leaked US Counterintelligence report (Mar 2008) wherein WikiLeaks was identified as a threat http://j.mp/dK3btC (PDF) !wl | Mar 11 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Upstart Development Blog: Override files in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/Flqms | Mar 11 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thoughts On #GPL Compliance of !RedHat's !Linux Distribution /by @bkuhn http://ping.fm/axImB | Mar 11 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Reporters Without Borders awards 2011 Netizen Prize to Tunisian bloggers at at nawaat.org! Congrats @ifikra! https://eff.org/r.1z9 | Mar 11 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That video footage from the Japan quakes is scary.... Oo | Mar 11 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Let me know if you find one! :D #SNES #emulator #64bit | Mar 11 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh and just think of how much worse it'd be if japan didn't literally have the best earthquake/tsunami protection stuff on the planet | Mar 11 14:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. They raided Sheen? ROFL! :D | Mar 11 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Yeah, I know. Watched lots of docus on that even back in the 90s. Damn resilent country... Always has been. | Mar 11 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh yeah, you've definitely gotta give them that | Mar 11 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Clegg had realised that nobody talks about triumphs of Lib/Lab pact then he may have thought present alliance not worth destroying party | Mar 11 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Hylke Bons: The truth about !GNOME design http://goo.gl/iIfE0 | Mar 11 15:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rarely, I find what seems 2 B an interesting article, but the writer's English isn't gd enough 2 understand & then I feel guilty 4 gving up | Mar 11 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud are getting an amazing amount of tech news coverage today | Mar 11 15:26 | |
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| *[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | Mar 11 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Someone's writing a series On the relationship between Canonical and GNOME, when's the movie? :) http://ping.fm/CN556 | Mar 11 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Was that too flippant? | Mar 11 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple's Agency model may violate anti-cartel laws in Europe - O'Reilly Radar http://ping.fm/GpGvA | Mar 11 15:44 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 11 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Loading https://groups.google.com/forum/ in !KDE #Konqueror shows a nice blank page with "This browser is not supported". Thanks #google ¬¬ | Mar 11 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kuhn: Thoughts On GPL Compliance of Red Hat's Linux Distribution http://lwn.net/Articles/433107/rss | Mar 11 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just occurred to me how close "warship" is to "worship" | Mar 11 15:52 | |
| oiaohm | http://wiki.x.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas Interesting. Remote wayland on the summer of code. | Mar 11 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Ourbricks.com 3D model sharing site launches with CC BY default license http://katalabs.com/blog/2011/03/10/ourbricks-social-3d-content/ | Mar 11 16:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Today we are all Japanese. Give $10 to help. Text REDCROSS to 90999, or click http://ow.ly/4ctzx via @notveryalice Pls RT! | Mar 11 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @revistaespiritolivre: Palestra Gratuita na Unicamp - 14/03 - Google Summer of Code 2011: http://va.mu/Al2 /cc @islene | Mar 11 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Canadians! Quake/tsunami relief number to donate--text REDCROSS to 30333. #TodayWeAreAllJapanese !Canada | Mar 11 16:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Today we are all Japanese. Give $10 to help. Text REDCROSS to 90999, or click http://ow.ly/4ctzx via @notveryalice Pls RT! | Mar 11 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This film has twice said that the bay of pigs invasion failed because landing site was compromised I know its a film but have had enough. | Mar 11 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Canadians! Quake/tsunami relief number to donate--text REDCROSS to 30333. #TodayWeAreAllJapanese #Canada | Mar 11 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Whaz that? :) | Mar 11 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Audio release: Linux Outlaws 195 - That's a Very Nice Everything You Have There > http://outl.ws/fKqEoD #linuxoutlaws | Mar 11 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rubenquidam: RT @iurie I'm not a computer expert, so I'll use a 100% free OS like Trisquel so I am always led to freedom, not elsewhere. | Mar 11 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh some fairly unstellar code that I wrote in ruby and need to port to vala. It's a daemon with a web interface. | Mar 11 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !operafans @opera is a really great browser that's seriously weakened on the desktop by the dearth of widgets. This really has to improve | Mar 11 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Nice. Can't wait! :) | Mar 11 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Gotta get up early tomorrow and I'm dead... | Mar 11 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Bed. Can't.... stay awake.... | Mar 11 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is !Ubuntu going with Ask.com now or have I been browser jacked? | Mar 11 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jayrosen_nyu: NPR Sting's "Racist Tea Party" Comment Taken Out of Context http://jr.ly/beye Big time deception. Paraphrasing ppl he knew | Mar 11 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Have you been drinking?" "Not since I got out of the car" #fg | Mar 11 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Goodnight | Mar 11 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Republican budget cuts target tsunami warning center http://ur1.ca/3h01d | Mar 11 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @qthrul #BigBroBigScreen is setting the bar high for best panel mix -- drastic swings in opinion and positions -- and humor. #SWSW | Mar 11 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Some early WikiLeaks (2006/7) strategy clippings http://alturl.com/zh5xb !wl | Mar 11 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm I read it in 'parenting' books... It goes hand in hand with the insane advice to "let babies cry." Some still believe these jerks. | Mar 11 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] 2 new free software jobs posted today at http://fsf.org/jobs. Great to see someone hiring for GIMP and Inkscape. !fsf !gnu !lp | Mar 11 17:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Twitter need to have a more standardised experience, then say it's already happening organically. Sounds like an excuse to avoid adblocking | Mar 11 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either it's already happening, so you don't need to do anything, or it's not and you do (or feel you have to) #smellsfishy #disingenuous | Mar 11 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @snarf: Please Donate to Gnash: is.gd/AcR8mG and save Gnash! !trisquel !parabola !dragora !gnull !fsfla | Mar 11 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ZX81: Small black box of computing desire http://is.gd/52sQPV "We did extraordinary things .. chess in 1K" - @CharlesCecil | Mar 11 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maloki @psquid where's the app that makes the "boom headshot" sound when reporting spammers? | Mar 11 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] or bits. :D | Mar 11 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid HBGary planned to "BLOW THE BALLS OFF OF NMAP"! http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2011/q1/767 #hilarity | Mar 11 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ashcrow RT @nmap Thanks for the support, everyone! Nmap's balls are now safe from HBGary: http://bit.ly/nmapsafe | Mar 11 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz CW | Mar 11 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Army private 'pressured to implicate Assange' | Mar 11 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Some early WikiLeaks (2006/7) strategy clippings http://wikileaks.ch.nyud.net/wiki/WikiLeaks:Strategy http://bit.ly/hETnnZ | Mar 11 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Army private 'pressured to implicate Assange' http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/14/3137816.htm http://bit.ly/ijvLTz | Mar 11 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @toshia40tosh: Just joined !spamreport http://beingpregnantsigns.com/sitemap?page=7 << this is hilarious spammer joins spamreport group | Mar 11 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Frank Sinatra was not the old twit I thought he was when I was too young to know anything. | Mar 11 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 1955 film about heroin and gambling and what a surprise it did not all end well. | Mar 11 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm reminded of Monty Python's "how not to be seen" sketch "don't stand up" aka "don't spam the guys who seek you out & delete your account" | Mar 11 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] that dumbass made my night, my sides are splitting from laughing | Mar 11 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if he realises he's suddenly popular or why before his account goes POOF! | Mar 11 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Subpoenas in SCEA v. Hotz Issue, Subject to Motions to Quash - http://bit.ly/f33yK5 #sony #ps3 #dmca #tpm #drm #linux #legal | Mar 11 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @maymaym DOJ's ability to access !wikileaks & Manning supporters' #Twitter accts: http://ur1.ca/3gxe6 DMs NOT considered private! | Mar 11 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] http://ur1.ca/3h0nv ap 1 http://ur1.ca/3h0o1 1.¶2 “Distributing the Software ... is a material breach of the agreement” => termination | Mar 11 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am puzzled as to why some people say "I pray for you". It's like, "I'll breath for you". Prayers never stopped the quake or tsunami! #fb | Mar 11 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @neilhimself The publics rights 2 culture R being eroded. Copyright is becoming detrimental 2 culture & creators. | Mar 11 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Beware of experts" !q - Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs) https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mike+rowe+beware+of+experts | Mar 11 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor - Chapters 1-4: http://weblit.ca/?q=node/9 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/10 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/11 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/12 | Mar 11 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor is the first of a fantasy Trilogy written by yours truly. Bellator has lost his memory. He's young, probably 14 years old | Mar 11 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] And obviously a trained killer. How did he get that way? Who wants to kill the Senator? Who's the girl that they rescued from bandits? | Mar 11 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why is the goddess and her priestesses so interested in a trained killer? Who is the Mother of Swords? Book to be published in April. | Mar 11 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter you need a redentable promo link | Mar 11 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. judge backs request for Assange friends' records | Reuters http://is.gd/kjZXqZ !wl | Mar 11 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: U.S. judge backs request for Assange friends' records | Reuters http://is.gd/kjZXqZ http://bit.ly/hNilKz | Mar 11 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the #GPS tracker inside a #rare white #lion stopped working. It leaked #toxic battery fluid?! replacing it is an even bigger #risk? #WTF | Mar 11 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @shiny Techdirt: US Proposals For Secret TPP 'Son Of ACTA' Treaty Leaked; Chock Full Of Awful Ideas - http://ur1.ca/3h0t6 #tppa !acta | Mar 11 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Japan market forecasters think quake good for business in mid term #wherethereismuckthereisbrass | Mar 11 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jospoortvliet awesome news: !openSUSE 11.4 breached 100.000 downloads in less than 24 hours! | Mar 11 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] well, give the lion a shot of #anbiotics and he will be ok? | Mar 11 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] let's not talk about the elephant #GPS collar. is this what they call animal preservation these days? #insane | Mar 11 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #anbiotics = #antibiotics ... damn keyboard | Mar 11 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] hate the preservers explanation about the GPS tracker even more: 'it provides us with valuable information'. WTF, we call that #RESEARCH! | Mar 11 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Spambot ho ⇒ shirely49shi | Mar 11 20:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] thinking of a distributed and #social enabled (ostatus) ticket tracker (bugs, tasks, etc) | Mar 11 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I do wonder if a spammer seeing an @ reply with @support or !spamreport in it triggers the "time to register a new account" gene | Mar 11 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have to get some kip goodnight Identi.ca friends you know who you are. | Mar 11 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor – Urbema - http://bit.ly/hRnAqA #amwriting | Mar 11 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Dr_BobsEmporium: Canada's Bill C-32 Chatter is out! http://bit.ly/h1xiLq ▸ Top stories today via @ericjosepi @atbeen @_the_mad_hatter | Mar 11 21:05 | |
| Ender2070 | OpenSUSE is not bad | Mar 11 21:08 |
| Ender2070 | though F15 will own it | Mar 11 21:08 |
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| MadRobot | Hi all. | Mar 11 21:12 |
| MadRobot | I'm finding Chris Pirillo becoming sillier than ever these days. | Mar 11 21:12 |
| MadRobot | While the whole world is going nuts. While the whole world is changing dramatically.. Chris Pirillo's goin' like "WAA WAA!!! I WANT AN iPAD!! " | Mar 11 21:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Key question: If you and I privately and mutually agree an additional benefit, why is ending that agreement a "restriction"? | Mar 11 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Weary of "community events" that think I want to travel at my own expense and work without pay even though I'm not part of their community. | Mar 11 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] Personally, I'm finding Chris Pirillo becoming much more silly and childish than he's ever been.. no offense.. -_- | Mar 11 21:20 | |
| walterbyrd | Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, is calling for hearings into whether Google violates anti-trust laws and abuses its dominant position as the pre-eminent search engine.... | Mar 11 21:21 |
| walterbyrd | In his election campaign, the freshman Utah Republican took $5,000 each from executives of Microsoft and AT&T, two of Google’s biggest competitors; executives at 1-800 CONTACTS gave Lee $7,500 in donations last year. | Mar 11 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] Personally, I'm finding #Chris #Pirillo becoming much more sillier and childish than he's ever been.. no offense.. -_- | Mar 11 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just how many "managers" do the #BBC have? I'm guessing the planned cuts exclude the managers http://tighturl.com/2zym#OldBoysNetwork | Mar 11 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[loophole87/@loophole87] While the whole world is going nuts. While the whole world is changing dramatically.. #Chris #Pirillo's like "WAA WAA!! I WANT AN #iPad!!!" | Mar 11 21:24 | |
| oiaohm | walterbyrd: Really Google has a good defence case. | Mar 11 21:25 |
| oiaohm | walterbyrd: that MS is usless at search. | Mar 11 21:25 |
| oiaohm | Yahoo was doing ok before MS interfered. | Mar 11 21:26 |
| oiaohm | MS determination to buy up googles competitors have allowed google to have the dominance they have today. | Mar 11 21:26 |
| oiaohm | Yes google be smart could flip the complete anti-trust case back on MS. | Mar 11 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I do see plenty of die hard #Apple fans try to do mental gymnastics to justify buying 1, when they don't really have any need or gap for it | Mar 11 21:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @loophole87 as much as I wouldn't touch it,but even I feel an "ooh, I'd like one" when I see an ad, not an iPad specifically, but a tablet | Mar 11 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @loophole87 I have no use for one, I'd be doing those same mental gymnastics, just as well I have no money lol | Mar 11 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @syntax: *Half-listening to the most recent #lo * Holy shit, I just won a netboo... oh. Bash mistype. #lol | Mar 11 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @JohnBetcher NEW POST - "Five Tips for Self-Publishers" on Self-Publishing Central http://ur1.ca/3h30b #amwriting !selfPub | Mar 11 21:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @abcnews: Video: Daybreak reveals the destruction in Japan http://bit.ly/hHoCVf | Mar 11 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @abcnews: Tsunami causes minor flooding in PNG http://bit.ly/fOBdO0 | Mar 11 21:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rahulsundaram Becoming a !Fedora package maintainer, easier than ever http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2011-March/0044 ... | Mar 11 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @rahulsundaram Becoming a Fedora package maintainer easier than ever http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/india/2011-March/004428.html | Mar 11 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 449 - Beginning of the End. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #Minis #worthreading | Mar 11 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter It depends. I can't think of a reason for a tablet at all. So in my book, any tablet is overpriced. DRM makes it worse. | Mar 11 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter A netbook would do the same thing with an actual keyboard (which is de rigueur for me) | Mar 11 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rsiddharth Listening to 'Oceans' by #Allison_Crowe from her Album #Spiral . !cc !librefm | Mar 11 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] falling asleep... time to say good night Gracie ... er... i mean goodnight !identica | Mar 11 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Do Anybody has LXDE 64 bit ?? (debian mint) , #kdeconf #kdeindia #confkdein | Mar 11 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] ICT and Math. Good Links from a friends http://tinyurl.com/4hml7ne #blog | Mar 11 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] State Department spokesman calls treatment of Bradley Manning “ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid.” http://ur1.ca/3h4vd !wikileaks | Mar 11 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Miguel de Icaza admits hes anti-!Linux and anti-usability http://ur1.ca/3gvf8 | Mar 11 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] “I find it ironic that Detroit is known as the #motorcity and yet no one here knows how to fucking drive.” http://ur1.ca/3h4zl | Mar 11 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Japan's earthquake early warning system bought them a minute or two, cost billions, and saved millions of lives http://ur1.ca/3h55e | Mar 11 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] like the community, love the technology, but recent events and choices trouble the project in my opinion | Mar 11 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] what about having parts of the project in the hands of a foundation? #governance | Mar 11 23:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Body blow! Right hook! I wonder whether "Punch Out" is available on PS3. | Mar 11 00:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared Grown Adult Actually Expects To Be Happy http://b1t.it/cvX | Mar 11 00:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Introducing Test Pilot 1.1 http://mzl.la/i2ibAD | Mar 11 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla F1: faster. more. http://mzl.la/hYmezM | Mar 11 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Prof Kannan now speaking on Spoken Tutorial Project - Main Hall, #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf | Mar 11 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @iThruProxy Sarah Palin: Africa Is A Continent, Rumors I Don't Know That Are 'Lies' http://dlvr.it/JrDMc << #Palin is scary | Mar 11 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just submitted !fedora 's gsoc application! woot! Anyone still want to add ideas? We're up to 20 now! http://ur1.ca/3ep1o | Mar 11 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Western countries condemn girl #circumcision in #Africa as barbaric, yet our "civilized" doctors mutilate infant boys' penises daily. | Mar 11 00:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rrix Just submitted !fedora 's gsoc application! woot! Anyone still want to add ideas? We're up to 20 now! http://ur1.ca/3ep1o | Mar 11 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix still considering a possibility for having an embedded effort for the application. do lack a LOT of time these days :-s | Mar 11 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm do you know that medical experts used to insist that circumcision didn't cause baby boys pain | Mar 11 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Indian Govt is spending good amount of money for promoting FOSS - Prof Kannan - #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf | Mar 11 00:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Ubuntu has proven that it's almost impossible to sandbox a browser with AppArmor | Mar 11 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | even with all the dangerous things it has to allow to get the thing to work, it will still interfere with the user and make the browser seem broken | Mar 11 00:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm not finished the (hopefully) final edit of !mynovel so I will continue being anti-social a bit longer | Mar 11 00:44 | |
| DaemonFC | I want them to just give up and admit that when you allow access to /sys/proc and the user can't open a text file he just downloaded, game over | Mar 11 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | # chromium mmaps all kinds of things for speed. | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | /etc/passwd m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/share/fonts/truetype/**/*.tt[cf] m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/share/fonts/**/*.pfb m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/share/mime/mime.cache m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/share/icons/**/*.cache m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | owner /dev/shm/pulse-shm* m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | owner @{HOME}/.local/share/mime/mime.cache m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | owner /tmp/** m, | Mar 11 00:45 |
| *DaemonFC head desks :) | Mar 11 00:46 | |
| DaemonFC | AppArmor and SELinux only really work well on programs and daemons that have a rather limited and well defined set of tasks they perform | Mar 11 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | they don't scale to a web browser | Mar 11 00:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @JFbookman Top 4 Book Formatting Mistakes to Avoid: http://ur1.ca/3gofm !SelfPub | Mar 11 00:47 | |
| DaemonFC | by the time you get a profile that works you've just given it a significant amount of access to the system anyway | Mar 11 00:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that's it for me... goodnight !identica | Mar 11 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Calligra Suite Talk will go from 11.00 am to 4pm in Hall - S2, #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf | Mar 11 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fsf: Free Software Supporter in Brazilian Portuguese (Thanks to Bruno Buys) -- http://www.fsf.org/pt-br/fss-2011-02 #fsf #gnu #dbd | Mar 11 01:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Can somebody convert my small QT/C++ code into PyQT/Webkit, http://ur1.ca/3gov8 #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf | Mar 11 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] OH @heatsynclabs @huertanix "She has 544 friends, add her on facebook, she's a slut for friends" | Mar 11 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @rlyehbob: @KinshinC All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that Lord Cthulhu wake up! | Mar 11 01:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf #Earthquake magnitude upgraded to 8.8. Massive #Tsunami hits #Japan. | Mar 11 01:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] USGS: Japan quake measured 8.8. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0001xgp.php | Mar 11 01:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I got i386 Kubuntu, I need 64 bit. Do anybdy has any ? #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf | Mar 11 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Group Photograph at KDE conf, Everybody please assemble #kdeindia #confkdein #kdeconf , Time Before Lunch | Mar 11 02:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Some claims about tsunami and fires. http://meonjaiku.jaiku.com/presence/1cdefaf7106847dea21768f498afaca5 | Mar 11 02:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rd @nytimes NYT NEWS ALERT: Tsunami Hits Japan After 8.8 Magnitude Earthquake Off Coast | Mar 11 02:05 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_92 | Mar 11 02:08 |
| oiaohm | I do find something intersting that Ubuntu trying to make Gnome out as a devil at the moment. Exactly after ubuntu is planing on redirecting funds that would have went to gnome. | Mar 11 02:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] heard something when walking outside and thought: 'There is no speed bump here". When I walked back I saw a dog was run over !OnlyInChina | Mar 11 02:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] :-s | Mar 11 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fauno: update on #parabola development http://ur1.ca/3fsvp #gnu #linuxlibre #mips !gnull !yeeloong | Mar 11 02:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf #Japan #earthquake magnitude has been upgraded again to 8.9. A Massive #Tsunami has hit Japan. CNN: http://goo.gl/fMw3O | Mar 11 02:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] of course the guy who did it drove away... | Mar 11 02:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Video release: Minecraft Adventures 4 - Fortifications > http://outl.ws/fniKdU #minecraft #linuxoutlaws | Mar 11 02:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Identica seems to be back to normal this morning. Good. :) | Mar 11 02:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Democraţia necesită #software liber http://is.gd/NDT54y ( rog RT ) #politica #politics #romania #ro #dinromania #microsoft #windows #apple | Mar 11 02:50 | |
| speexbTniPA | Step in the right direction regarding flash: | Mar 11 02:50 |
| speexbTniPA | ipad-ipad-2-ios-4-3-chrome-safari-windows-nitro-javascript-dre.htm | Mar 11 02:51 |
| speexbTniPA | more need to join Apple in banning flash | Mar 11 02:51 |
| speexbTniPA | http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/120033/20110308/adobe-flash-html-5-wallaby-ios-iphone-ipad-ipad-2-ios-4-3-chrome-safari-windows-nitro-javascript-dre.htm | Mar 11 02:51 |
| speexbTniPA | http://www.inquisitr.com/22264/url-shorteners-the-herpes-of-the-web/ | Mar 11 02:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] 2.6.37.4 #linux #stable review http://bit.ly/ejJxoZ "[...] There are 29 patches in this series [...]" #kernel #2637 | Mar 11 02:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @eff: Don't let the Trans Pacific Partn. become the next ACTA, contact your representative and demand transparency: https://eff.org/r.2z7 | Mar 11 02:55 | |
| speexbTniPA | http://www.paulcarvill.com/2009/04/why-people-should-build-their-own-url-shorteners/ | Mar 11 02:56 |
| oiaohm | There of course is a downside to everything speexbTniPA | Mar 11 02:58 |
| oiaohm | Own link shorteners also means requiring your own site. speexbTniPA | Mar 11 02:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Wow, my feelings go to the country of the rising sun, 8.9 ritcher #quake + really bad tsunamis. :| #japan | Mar 11 03:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: A Decade of Freedom: #FSFE turns 10 this month http://ur1.ca/3gbnr | Mar 11 03:05 | |
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| speexbTniPA | PGP turns 20 this year | Mar 11 03:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #HP's desktop plans for #WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts - http://bit.ly/eF9JCj I'm sceptical, but it would be nice... #linux | Mar 11 03:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @royhugo: ♺ @softmetz: Happy Birthday #fsfe. 10 years of freedom. | Mar 11 03:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the QML march continues! http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/10/qml-components-for-desktop | Mar 11 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: complete text of the US proposal for the #Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (#TPP) chapter - http://bit.ly/eKe5BU | Mar 11 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just found out that a huge #earthquake hit the pacific, if you have anyone there(japan especially) you should probably see if they're ok... | Mar 11 03:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Movie Studio Goes After Self-Proclaimed Pirate, His Unicorn and Leprechaun - http://bit.ly/ijLaaY humourless, bullying twits | Mar 11 03:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gucci is advertising on the #yogscast channel. Audience FAIL. | Mar 11 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] DraftSight for #Linux is now in beta! - http://bit.ly/eCaFIp alas, only free as in beer, but it's still good news for ecosystem #cad | Mar 11 03:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On Ensemble and LALUGs release concert CD burning system - http://bit.ly/gkWb3R #freesw & and free content: nice | Mar 11 03:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] "[webOs can enable] HP to reduce its dependence on [MSFT] while also reducing prices for its customers." http://ur1.ca/3gqc7 <wasn't clear? | Mar 11 03:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just generated a new !LO server map:http://alain.sixgun.org/map/ | Mar 11 03:42 | |
| speexbTniPA | what is this 'freedombox' ? | Mar 11 03:48 |
| speexbTniPA | http://freedomboxfoundation.org/FAQ/ | Mar 11 03:48 |
| speexbTniPA | there is more info about the foundation than about the box | Mar 11 03:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Charity http://xkcd.com/871/ | Mar 11 03:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: ALT+F2 returns to !Unity – looking rather swish http://goo.gl/YPNKD | Mar 11 03:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hell yeah! "Let's do this the yogscast way!" :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-ZMTRK64g&feature=player_detailpage#t=484s | Mar 11 03:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Android Developers blog: Renderscript Part 2 http://goo.gl/t5z5I | Mar 11 03:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Smaller !Unity Launcher with intellihide = nice. http://goo.gl/WCXQa | Mar 11 03:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I must say that the palm Pre^3 is quite cool. The wireless charger in particular. I love competition! | Mar 11 03:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Japan Tsunami: What To Do If It Affects You http://goo.gl/sutp2 | Mar 11 03:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Randall Ross: !Unity: A Form Letter For Computer Journalists http://goo.gl/a7sLi !ubuntu | Mar 11 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party Goodies are ready now http://goo.gl/vUkLs | Mar 11 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Starting the day with a _very_ strong chinese #tea | Mar 11 04:00 | |
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| schestowitz_away | BT is taking ages to connect the broadband in the new house | Mar 11 04:01 |
| schestowitz_away | So I'm connecting from the lab... | Mar 11 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | Welcome back schestowitz_away | Mar 11 04:01 |
| schestowitz_away | Thanks | Mar 11 04:01 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: took me a few days to decide on the new ISP too | Mar 11 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | a lab? at your job? | Mar 11 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: hmm you gone with BT? | Mar 11 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Mar 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz_away | It's all pretty unreasonable | Mar 11 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | I have been told by someone online a few times, that BT is a bad ISP | Mar 11 04:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Fotografii de la întâlnirea RLUG din martie http://is.gd/pgfaDm | Mar 11 04:02 | |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: something wrong with BT? | Mar 11 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: apparantly so yeah | Mar 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz_away | Oh, I see the bot's down, let me bring it up again | Mar 11 04:02 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: | Mar 11 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: | Mar 11 04:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Unity 3.6.4 Brings Resizable Launcher, ALT + F2 Run Dialog, More [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/eeLrUB | Mar 11 04:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☆ Is Apache Open-By-Rule?: Apache The Apache Software Foundation is probably the most respected open source code... http://wmk.me/etGgUG | Mar 11 04:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] After #Amazon, Masterobjects Takes #Google To Court Over Instant Search Patent - http://tcrn.ch/esP3dr gosh, what a surprise #swpats | Mar 11 04:12 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: all HP computers shipped next year will have WebOS, some major news, you may have missed | Mar 11 04:12 |
| sebsebseb | since no net access | Mar 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: wow, major indeed! | Mar 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz_away | But... | Mar 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz_away | Dual-boot? | Mar 11 04:13 |
| sebsebseb | yep dual boot | Mar 11 04:13 |
| schestowitz_away | The display shows are all Vista 7 in unison, with even TVs showing ads like that | Mar 11 04:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting the connection at the new house might take longer than hoped (BT), so I might just get some coding done until then. | Mar 11 04:14 | |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: still nice | Mar 11 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | indeed still nice | Mar 11 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/every-hp-pc-shipped-next-year-will-have-webos/22928 | Mar 11 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-says-WebOS-headed-for-desktop-PCs/?kc=rss | Mar 11 04:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: there you go ^ | Mar 11 04:15 |
| schestowitz_away | Thanks | Mar 11 04:16 |
| schestowitz_away | Dented | Mar 11 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | your welcome :) | Mar 11 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | I did a dent yesterday for the first link | Mar 11 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | the second is from today | Mar 11 04:16 |
| schestowitz_away | I am trying to log into the server... can't remember the IP address... that's at home | Mar 11 04:16 |
| sebsebseb | (or when I got on it anyway) | Mar 11 04:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just caught up with: HP's desktop plans for #WebOS could flip PC market, say analysts http://ur1.ca/3gqqb | Mar 11 04:17 | |
| schestowitz_away | I got my COMPA^H^HP laptop back out | Mar 11 04:17 |
| schestowitz_away | It runs DSL now | Mar 11 04:17 |
| sebsebseb | looks like HP is good to buy from in 2012 | Mar 11 04:18 |
| schestowitz_away | It's not the first to sell dual-boot | Mar 11 04:18 |
| sebsebseb | however surely the next Windows is coming out towards the end of 2012 as well? | Mar 11 04:18 |
| sebsebseb | Vista 2006 | Mar 11 04:18 |
| sebsebseb | Windows 7 October 2009 | Mar 11 04:18 |
| schestowitz_away | The Linux option is also fairly proprietary | Mar 11 04:18 |
| sebsebseb | for HP? | Mar 11 04:18 |
| schestowitz_away | I think HP -- not just Dell for instance -- has been dual boot proponent for a while | Mar 11 04:19 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: WebOS is proprietary | Mar 11 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment they are using Linux for these basic OS's these companies | Mar 11 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | but | Mar 11 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | maybe in the future they will start doing proper distro's more | Mar 11 04:19 |
| schestowitz_away | Except some parts like Linux and other packages they must keep free/libre | Mar 11 04:19 |
| sebsebseb | still nice though, still a start | Mar 11 04:19 |
| schestowitz_away | Yes | Mar 11 04:19 |
| schestowitz_away | I wasn't mocking this decision or anything, but Android is still more open | Mar 11 04:20 |
| sebsebseb | then of course there's Android, another example of companies just using Linux really to make money | Mar 11 04:20 |
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| schestowitz_away | MeeGo is almost best now that OpenMoko is kaput more or less | Mar 11 04:20 |
| sebsebseb | really a lot of companies go LInux to save money and that's probably their main reason really | Mar 11 04:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EC wants to improve procurement to avoid vendor lock-in - http://bit.ly/i8NjPQ #openstandards are your friend here #eu | Mar 11 04:20 | |
| sebsebseb | ,but well hey it's Linux at the end of the day still so :D | Mar 11 04:20 |
| schestowitz_away | Thwe Linux(R) brand | Mar 11 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | The? | Mar 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz_away | Yes | Mar 11 04:21 |
| schestowitz_away | Typo | Mar 11 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | I just saw the latest Unity video on webupd a little while ago now | Mar 11 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | and yep Unity isn't really something I want | Mar 11 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell on the other hand, well not tried very latest yet, but Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 04:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: also I don't need app recommendations from the OS and so on, but well Ubuntu is for the noobs | Mar 11 04:22 |
| schestowitz_away | I use Fedora KDE ATM | Mar 11 04:25 |
| schestowitz_away | Solid stuff, but I lack the screen space | Mar 11 04:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: so I guess starting next year, or well soon after that, if we include HP's webos market share as part of Desktop Linux market share, then I guess Desktop Linux has most market share | Mar 11 04:25 |
| schestowitz_away | At home my display is about 3500 pixels wide | Mar 11 04:25 |
| schestowitz_away | I just can't get it to work at a high res than this at the moment | Mar 11 04:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff LibreOffice 3.3.2 Release Candidate 1 available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ !libo !tdf | Mar 11 04:25 | |
| sebsebseb | and if we include Android and stuff like that as well, then yeah Linux has most market share | Mar 11 04:25 |
| schestowitz_away | Also, my CRT has a faulty red cathode ray thingie... whatever it's called | Mar 11 04:26 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: yes, but now we move on to earning more freedom | Mar 11 04:26 |
| schestowitz_away | Linux is one stepping stone | Mar 11 04:26 |
| sebsebseb | PC Linux OS for me for now, even though serious issues with Choqok :( | Mar 11 04:26 |
| schestowitz_away | Techrights deals with other issue | Mar 11 04:26 |
| schestowitz_away | *issues | Mar 11 04:26 |
| sebsebseb | and laggy slow kapman as well | Mar 11 04:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: basically I can't use choqok right now at all | Mar 11 04:27 |
| schestowitz_away | It's not just a 'Linux site' | Mar 11 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | since now instead of it loading up being really slow to load up | Mar 11 04:27 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: I use the KDE widget | Mar 11 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | I can't add the account | Mar 11 04:27 |
| schestowitz_away | Cause at home I have no connection, bar dongle | Mar 11 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | choqok got updated, and now it's like something about a missing plugin when I try to add an account | Mar 11 04:27 |
| schestowitz_away | sebsebseb: in choqok I have 6 accounts set up | Mar 11 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_away: I been trying out elmdentica recently it was in the PCLOS repos :) | Mar 11 04:27 |
| sebsebseb | seems ok that client, but | Mar 11 04:28 |
| sebsebseb | like Pino it seems, really sucky for showing lots of old dents | Mar 11 04:28 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 11 04:28 |
| sebsebseb | I liked how in Choqok it could show me 1000 old dents :) | Mar 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz_away | For me it's back to kdemicroblog | Mar 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Not great | Mar 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Resouce hog | Mar 11 04:28 |
| sebsebseb | kdemicroblog hmm, that's a client that can be installed I guess, and how many dents can it show? | Mar 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz_away | Could take up half a gig if thousands accumulated | Mar 11 04:28 |
| schestowitz_away | So I had to disable some plugins and occasionally restart the app | Mar 11 04:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Can people stop preferring glitter over application functionality please!? YOUR MAKING ME ANGRY! | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Proiectul Fedora, România http://fedoraproject.org/ro/ #fedora #romania #software #microsoft | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] RT @speeddefrost Take note: The Earth is PISSED OFF. | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @docufoundation: RT @floeff LibreOffice 3.3.2 Release Candidate 1 available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ !libo !tdf | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Roll Your Own Foursquare: #Ushahidi Launches Open-Source #Location Service - http://rww.to/gJ3PZb nice work #opensource | Mar 11 04:29 | |
| ---schestowitz_away is now known as schestowitz | Mar 11 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8hdSM1Fa8 #minecraft | Mar 11 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Sometimes i think that people buy new computers just so they can run more shiny special effects on their computers. #bullshit #useless .. | Mar 11 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] .. #unhelpful | Mar 11 04:30 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: Want some Unity? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/unity-364-brings-resizable-launcher-alt.html | Mar 11 04:30 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: hmm I just read your dents properly after that, and well what I just said, seems to fit in heh heh | Mar 11 04:31 |
| sebsebseb | that's what Unity is really | Mar 11 04:31 |
| sebsebseb | shiney | Mar 11 04:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Want some Unity? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/unity-364-brings-resizable-launcher-alt.html | Mar 11 04:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @AndreiAvadanei: Certificat Digital, Semnatura Electronica si Declaratia 112 http://goo.gl/fb/SWAgz | Mar 11 04:32 | |
| sebsebseb | Unity hmm :( really, Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 04:32 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, dont make me hurt you :) | Mar 11 04:32 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: I just read the dents that came in here, propelry after that, I meant above | Mar 11 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | Unity is hmm | Mar 11 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | first it was hmm with those nasty Gnome 2 patche's | Mar 11 04:33 |
| nisshh | hehe | Mar 11 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | now they make basically most of those features, into a completly alternative interface to Gnome Shell | Mar 11 04:33 |
| sebsebseb | and then put copyright assignments on it as well | Mar 11 04:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Despre semnătura digitală și costul ei http://is.gd/o5LpND #romania #security #anaf #software | Mar 11 04:34 | |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, dude, are you ever going to stop complaining about those patches? | Mar 11 04:34 |
| nisshh | seems like thats all you ever do :) | Mar 11 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | so now at least those features don't completly suck, because now they are a proper interface, but things are still hmm | Mar 11 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: uh whatever | Mar 11 04:34 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: and maybe you haven't noticed it enough yet by now, but people tend to express their opinions in this channel and the other one as well | Mar 11 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | one major reason I started using these channels :) | Mar 11 04:35 |
| sebsebseb | (well the old channel, and then the name change to this one, and social yeah) | Mar 11 04:35 |
| nisshh | sebsebseb, oh its not that, but you seem to just rant about those patches, nothing else :) | Mar 11 04:36 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: that's not quite true, and you know it | Mar 11 04:36 |
| nisshh | i like variety :) | Mar 11 04:36 |
| sebsebseb | also the stuff I just mentioned | Mar 11 04:36 |
| sebsebseb | has ruined Ubuntu | Mar 11 04:36 |
| sebsebseb | for many people like me who used it from either the begining with 4.10 or nearly the begining with 5.04 which was me | Mar 11 04:36 |
| nisshh | well, true ok, but you always bring up the patches :) | Mar 11 04:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No longer a need to pirate Doctor Who - http://bit.ly/h98eps other TV companies take note of the global dynamics here #piracy | Mar 11 04:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Lewis.... Where there is blame, there's a claim." ROFL | Mar 11 04:37 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: anyway it's a noob distro, and let them have their noob interface Unity | Mar 11 04:37 |
| sebsebseb | plus can't stop them having that anyway :D and uhmm Gnome Shell :) | Mar 11 04:37 |
| nisshh | heh | Mar 11 04:38 |
| sebsebseb | in a way it's good their are the two some competitino | Mar 11 04:38 |
| sebsebseb | on the other hand, Unity isn't really meant to exist in the first place, or not for the desktop anyway, it was meant to be a netbook GUI | Mar 11 04:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey you guys ready to make !fedora 16 the @beefymiracle release?? | Mar 11 04:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYTimes: When We Do It, It's Journalism, When HuffPo Does It, It's 'Piracy' - http://bit.ly/el7nli #NYT trying hard in hypocrite stakes | Mar 11 04:39 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: also it's probably been Ubuntu newbies who have been mainly saying bad stuff about Gnome Shell removing the minimise and maximise button, with many of them not even trying that version | Mar 11 04:39 |
| nisshh | yeah | Mar 11 04:39 |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: in fact in the last jono bacon ustream I asked a question about that and what he thought about that, and he basically mistakingly said it was Ubuntu people, and then had to correct himself to say not only Ubuntu, heh heh, see the video if you want | Mar 11 04:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Best #Mars Images From Orbiter’s First 5 Years - http://bit.ly/h5TOIP superb gallery | Mar 11 04:42 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: why aren't you in the other channel? | Mar 11 04:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New XML Standard for Super-Fast, Lightweight Applications Announced by W3C - http://rww.to/ffWLTL "for quickly streaming large sets of data" | Mar 11 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hope it's easier to port ♺ @carlopiana I must say that the palm Pre^3 is quite cool. The wireless charger in particular. I love competition! | Mar 11 04:50 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'll get back there when I'm on my main desktop | Mar 11 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh ok | Mar 11 04:51 |
| schestowitz | Just catching up with some stuff first | Mar 11 04:51 |
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| tuxmania | Hi there :D | Mar 11 04:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods! I need a coffee.... | Mar 11 04:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] s/appear/appeal/ 5 dents ago. | Mar 11 04:52 | |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: hi | Mar 11 04:52 |
| schestowitz | tuxmania: hi | Mar 11 04:52 |
| tuxmania | Wow, HP is going to get some pounding from Stevie soon. | Mar 11 04:53 |
| MinceR | ? | Mar 11 04:54 |
| MinceR | also, hi | Mar 11 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: yeah they can't annoy Micrsofot to much well they could, but | Mar 11 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: if they do that, Dell may become the number one PC seller again, pretty soon instead | Mar 11 04:54 |
| tuxmania | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/hp-the-linux-desktop-company/8423 | Mar 11 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but anyway HP doing web os | Mar 11 04:54 |
| sebsebseb | that's good yaeh | Mar 11 04:54 |
| tuxmania | If nothing else, it will give Linux an enormous "APPROVED" stamp. | Mar 11 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | tuxmania: WebOS on HP, Android, these instant on OS's | Mar 11 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Mar 11 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Mar 11 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | Linux get's most market share | Mar 11 04:55 |
| sebsebseb | not Windows or Mac OS X | Mar 11 04:56 |
| sebsebseb | if we include all this | Mar 11 04:56 |
| sebsebseb | Who are you tuxmania ? | Mar 11 04:56 |
| sebsebseb | new here or? | Mar 11 04:56 |
| tuxmania | naw, i read techrights all the time | Mar 11 04:56 |
| tuxmania | just not on irc much these days | Mar 11 04:57 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Mar 11 04:57 |
| MinceR | i doubt instant-on os-es will guarantee ending the m$ tax on high-end laptops though | Mar 11 04:57 |
| MinceR | people don't buy those only to run a web browser | Mar 11 04:57 |
| tuxmania | MinceR: no, but from what i understand OEMs pay no matter what os they ship | Mar 11 04:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: notice how Linux is being used for basic OS's by these big companies? Well it's a start, but hmm it can do so much more than just that | Mar 11 04:57 |
| MinceR | the laptop manufacturers will actually have to care to kick m$ out of that market | Mar 11 04:58 |
| MinceR | tuxmania: that too | Mar 11 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well with other programs, since it's just a kernel, you know | Mar 11 04:58 |
| MinceR | if the laptop manufacturers did stuff correctly, they could at least cut m$'s revenue greatly by ending m$ tax on low-end stuff | Mar 11 04:58 |
| tuxmania | The netbook did lower Microsofts income significantly at the bottom end. | Mar 11 04:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] AMO and minVersion 4.0 are BFF http://bit.ly/eXvl4n | Mar 11 04:59 | |
| tuxmania | MS won the netbook market, but at a great price. | Mar 11 04:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bogdan Manolea despre datele deschise (open data) în România http://is.gd/Sz3DCk #romania #peblog #opendata #free #software | Mar 11 05:00 | |
| MinceR | there are other cheap laptops beside netbooks though | Mar 11 05:01 |
| MinceR | for which one could still make the case of "i just want to browse the web and run webapps", perhaps | Mar 11 05:01 |
| tuxmania | I want a Chrome Laptop for that, now i have a Galaxy Tab | Mar 11 05:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Threat Of Parallel Filing - http://bit.ly/hxrVnY interesting point; solution is to put everything in public domain explicitly #swpats | Mar 11 05:02 | |
| tuxmania | The solution is banning software patents, anything else is poorly dressed band aid. | Mar 11 05:03 |
| tuxmania | Get the corps to choose, patents OR copyright, not both. | Mar 11 05:04 |
| tuxmania | Software as books makes the corps sidestep any guarantee issues, but patents makes software enforceable as hardware goods. | Mar 11 05:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] So you think you own your twitter name? - http://bit.ly/g9bfJD this is bad, and likely to be just the beginning (v @deburca) #trademarks | Mar 11 05:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhhh! Coffee! | Mar 11 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arduino blog: "We are looking for Forum Moderators" - http://bit.ly/fEFEbs form an orderly queue #arduino #openhardware | Mar 11 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] couple of branches merged, not to look into the solid networkmanager crash ... | Mar 11 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A fairytale marriage: Google Earth and #London in #3D - http://bit.ly/gWbxmq be there without being there | Mar 11 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing a podcast and a video at the same time. Look at me! :D | Mar 11 05:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Gonna write some #espressotips First is: pre-heat your cup with hot water or the cappuccino steam | Mar 11 05:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ... and it's working again! yes! probably have @sebas to thank for that | Mar 11 05:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Apache Open-By-Rule? - http://bit.ly/fO0HRc you bet: "It’s no surprise to me that Apache scores a perfect 10." #apache | Mar 11 05:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A real espresso is never more than half a cup (a tiny one). Foam should be mild brown Good: http://ur1.ca/3gral #espressotips | Mar 11 05:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scholarly HTML – what we are hoping for - http://bit.ly/fNEh9Z important: "it’s about returning freedom-of-publication to authors" | Mar 11 05:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] 1 espresso = 7gr 2 espresso = 12-13 gr coffee. Keep your coffe in a cold, dry place. Better if ground on demand. #espressotips | Mar 11 05:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Broadband ISPs Thrash Out Voluntary UK #NetNeutrality Commitment with the BSG - http://bit.ly/eI7WFX devil's in the details | Mar 11 05:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Home coffee machines are fine, but let it warm! in a hurry, make one w/ old or w/o coffee, then put the powder. #espressotips | Mar 11 05:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Final of the day: Nespresso is as good as coca-cola is a good drink. If you like it, fine, but it's not espresso ;-) #espressotips | Mar 11 05:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Sony #PS3 Class File An Amended Complaint - http://bit.ly/idfE4p what fun | Mar 11 05:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OpenShot really is quite good if you use 1.3 | Mar 11 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Double Standard On Special 301 Report: Industry Is Allowed Vague, Unsupported Statements; Consumer Advocates Are Not - http://bit.ly/fw6W3F | Mar 11 05:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh as I said, if you like it, fine. I drink it too, seldom, but I do. :-) | Mar 11 05:24 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'll see if o2 can connect me faster than BT | Mar 11 05:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I'll go to town now and find out | Mar 11 05:28 |
| schestowitz | It's just too boring when I use a computer without all my files, settings, and programs | Mar 11 05:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #France appoints CIO but takes #interoperability of task list - http://bit.ly/ftuBpL not good #openstandards | Mar 11 05:29 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: O2 that sounds like a better ISP to me, even though I don't exactly know anything about them | Mar 11 05:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: BT has problems removing the connection or something I think it was, going by what someone said last year | Mar 11 05:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz sorry, I don't understand | Mar 11 05:30 | |
| sebsebseb | and probably issues connecting to by the sounds of what your saying | Mar 11 05:30 |
| schestowitz | Taking too long to get connected | Mar 11 05:31 |
| schestowitz | They say 22nd of March# | Mar 11 05:31 |
| sebsebseb | what BT are saying 22nd of March? | Mar 11 05:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: don't go with BT, 1. they are massive, 2. they shoudn't have loads of problems connecting people now, 3. the and so on | Mar 11 05:31 |
| schestowitz | To get the broadband running | Mar 11 05:31 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly they aren't that good for Broadband | Mar 11 05:32 |
| schestowitz | I told them it's urgent cause my jobs need connection from home | Mar 11 05:32 |
| schestowitz | They don't seem to bother with such considerations | Mar 11 05:32 |
| schestowitz | BT-monopoly made them vain and apathetic t/w customers | Mar 11 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: like I said someone online told me a few of the annoyed with BT stories, this was last year | Mar 11 05:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OLD WOMAN I DEMAND YOUR FINEST BACON | Mar 11 05:32 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: plus BT is a sort of monoplogy so why support them? | Mar 11 05:32 |
| schestowitz | I know.. | Mar 11 05:32 |
| schestowitz | .A friend of mine manages there... | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | But it's too large to matter for one person | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I'm off now, will be back later | Mar 11 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: going for BT | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | I'll see what O2 can do.. | Mar 11 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: wait | Mar 11 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | going for BT, beccause a friend works there | Mar 11 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | sounds like a stupid reason to me | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: no,BT will send me a package | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | But I have not signed anything yet | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | So I can check O2's offer | Mar 11 05:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.o2.co.uk/broadband/ | Mar 11 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok find out about O2, sounds good to me | Mar 11 05:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Your cake is so sweet and moist...... ROFL | Mar 11 05:34 | |
| schestowitz | It was better in the older apartment, none of this mess | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: of course Virgin Media are pretty good, but | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess your not going for them | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | The complex handled all the Net centrally | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Virgin is what the previous tennat used | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | And I went to the Virgin shop, their prices suck | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | And they are slow, too | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | well I think with VIrgin | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Slow to set up I mean | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | meant to have TV and phone with it really as well | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | My line has 17MB speed | Mar 11 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | for it to be a good deal, not sure exactly | Mar 11 05:34 |
| schestowitz | A mate of mine who lives near me had o2 and said it had no hangups | Mar 11 05:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] OMG! Have I really bought a Kindle before finding out if I can root it?! I'm totally insane, help! | Mar 11 05:35 | |
| schestowitz | Which is why I need most and foremost | Mar 11 05:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok sounds like your probably going O2 then, should be quite a bit better than going BT | Mar 11 05:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, seems so.. | Mar 11 05:36 |
| schestowitz | Will be back in a few hours hopefully | Mar 11 05:36 |
| schestowitz | It's Friday, so I better hurry to leave some time to make other things happen | Mar 11 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah it's Friday | Mar 11 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | so off to the O2 shop | Mar 11 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | before they close for the weekend ? | Mar 11 05:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Mistral city has a brothel.... :D | Mar 11 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4 Demos: 3 new demos! http://mzl.la/i7v5Cz | Mar 11 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WHERE IS DRUGS | Mar 11 05:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog on !OMG Ubuntu: Are you contributing your share? http://goo.gl/vYu0p !debian | Mar 11 05:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Henri Bergius: Weblog: On cross-project collaboration and a more reasoned approach to the !Canonical !Gnome fracas http://ping.fm/XI6OC | Mar 11 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Henri Bergius on cross-project collaboration http://goo.gl/vbJ9a !gnome | Mar 11 05:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Downpour Is a BitTorrent Client Made for Media Centers Downpour Is a BitTorrent Client Made for Media Centers Kevin Purdy — Mac/Linux http: | Mar 11 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubtunu 11.04 will be Optimised for All Platforms qpparently | Techtree http://ping.fm/GmlTk | Mar 11 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iTWire - GNOME-KDE wars are back again | Another take on the !Gnome situation http://ping.fm/nVmlO | Mar 11 06:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud becomes Joli OS, Jolicloud dashboard headed to Firefox and iPad - altonkaplan's blog http://ping.fm/oJopP | Mar 11 06:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I will review Joli OS, but it's proving harder to get to grips with that I thought. Things I thought were missing were just well hidden | Mar 11 06:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Microsoft to open "cloud and interoperability center" in Brussels on March 22 http://ur1.ca/3grq2 lobby base, more likely (via @ccbuhr) | Mar 11 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] EC DG INFSO call for tender on #procurement guidelines impact assessment http://ur1.ca/3gq3j - moving at stately pace, but moving #osor | Mar 11 06:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OUR FRIEND IS SICK WITH TAINT | Mar 11 06:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !chromium 12.0.700 is available for ubuntu from the chromium daily builds !ppa: http://goo.gl/xD38 | Mar 11 06:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] The shortest image uploader – ever! http://mzl.la/eo8lCg | Mar 11 06:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Debarshi Ray: “… update Adobe Flash Player …” — Wait, what? http://goo.gl/qrpz1 !gnu | Mar 11 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: More !Unity "2 Sided Dock" Mockups http://goo.gl/ZLCwN | Mar 11 06:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @flattrchattr: What's been happening this week in the !Flattr World? Check out our weekly review! http://ur1.ca/3gryq | Mar 11 06:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Flattr has friends everywhere, but Germany is definitely home to our biggest userbase at the moment." http://outl.ws/gigy1x | Mar 11 06:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] news in #China still mention it is a 8.6 scale earthquake in #Japan. probably the real numbers are delayed due to excessive filtering. | Mar 11 06:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @silner Henri Bergius: Weblog: On cross-project collaboration http://ping.fm/XI6OC /cc: !meego !gnome !kde | Mar 11 06:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] More Unity "2 Sided Dock" Mockups [Ubuntu 11.04] http://bit.ly/fuhF2F | Mar 11 06:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @karsten it seems in that regard ("open" cloud from Microsoft) my gov is already bought. | Mar 11 06:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #BTV, you could have stopped the broadcast of that #WWII series for one day out of respect. !China #unethical | Mar 11 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Investigating Performance Differences Between Firefox 4 And IE9 http://is.gd/mEDQBs #firefox #microsoft #mozilla #ie #web #ie9 #romania | Mar 11 07:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Myth Of "Full Hardware Acceleration" http://is.gd/UcBLio #microsoft #ie #ie9 #romania #firefox #hardware #mozilla | Mar 11 07:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tiffany Toth Playboy Cybergirl Xtra March 2011 http://is.gd/5shrsR #it #computers #cyber | Mar 11 07:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://ur1.ca/3gs5m You gotta do the cooking by the book | Mar 11 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #bugzap Just reported [733182] Pony should check for new sixgun podcasts from a server. http://b1t.it/cye | Mar 11 07:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] #geekpr0n 1 MW Laser Pistol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXXGbNS8oY | Mar 11 07:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Folks, who are the sponsors of Firefox ? Where can I get a list ? Thanks in advance. | Mar 11 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT #psd just seen a glimpse of the future thanks to @yannsionneau especially for an amazing !Milkymist OSHUG Q&A. !FPGA FTW! | Mar 11 07:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: !FSFE is turning 10 years old! Congratulations and keep up your good work! http://ur1.ca/3gs91 http://ur1.ca/3gs94 | Mar 11 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Anon News, Operation Payback: interviews ... real ones http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49836 | Mar 11 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @luigireggi: Emilia-romagna region launches its strategy for #opendata & e-inclusion. Method = partnership w existng bottom-up initiativs | Mar 11 07:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Sjig: The Dutch could save 1 to 4 billion Euro/y, if only their public administrations would move 2 open source http://ur1.ca/3gsba #free | Mar 11 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Radical Copyright Reform Only Chance For The #Copyright #Monopoly To Survive At All - http://bit.ly/dMB2SO let's not be timid: abolition | Mar 11 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: #FSFE is turning 10 years old! Congratulations and keep up your good work! http://ur1.ca/3gs91 http://ur1.ca/3gs94 | Mar 11 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #iPhone 4 and #Blackberry Torch hacked at #Pwn2Own | IT PRO http://ping.fm/0rCGM | Mar 11 07:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Think I've broken Tweetcloud. Tried it three times, and it hasn't once managed a report... | Mar 11 07:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 07:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 07:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady #3strikes | Mar 11 07:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Broadband ISPs Thrash Out Voluntary UK #NetNeutrality Commitment with the BSG - http://bit.ly/eI7WFX devil's in the details | Mar 11 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looking at Mark Shuttleworth's speech on Gnome again, I wonder why Canonical wasn't more even handed with KDE in the first place? http://pin | Mar 11 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@glynmoody: Scholarly HTML –what we are hoping for http://bit.ly/fNEh9Z important: "it’s about returning freedom-of-publication to authors" | Mar 11 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Is Apache Open-By-Rule? - http://bit.ly/fO0HRc you bet: "It’s no surprise to me that Apache scores a perfect 10." #apache | Mar 11 07:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: So you think you own your twitter name? - http://bit.ly/g9bfJD this is bad, and likely to be just the beginning... #trademarks | Mar 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Best #Mars Images From Orbiter’s First 5 Years - http://bit.ly/h5TOIP superb gallery | Mar 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: NYTimes: When We Do It, It's Journalism, When HuffPo Does It, It's 'Piracy' http://bit.ly/el7nli #NYT trying hard in hypocrite | Mar 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What I mean is: Canonical always seemed to favour Gnome over KDE and Kubuntu was often behind. Maybe that should change too? | Mar 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ikrshnan: !LibreOffice Pre-Release version goes to 3.3.2 RC1 http://is.gd/R8gk4l !openoffice !fsf !foss !gnu !linux !gnulinux !windows | Mar 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: MPs threatened over UK phone-hacking - Investigations "would not be forgotten" http://bit.ly/hLpp4A #security | Mar 11 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME 3.0 Launch Party Goodies are ready now by emilychen http://ping.fm/bYWG0 | Mar 11 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iTWire - GPL expert @bkuhn gives Red Hat the all-clear http://ping.fm/cK3im | Mar 11 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Spiral tribe – marking the end of !Debian’s unpredictable release schedule /by @linuxusermag http://ping.fm/QdadW | Mar 11 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@laurelrusswurm: Must Read: "Tor, XMPP, GPG, Internet security" excellent blog post by @jimmorgan http://ur1.ca/3gnth !privacy #internet... | Mar 11 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] fregl started a QML Plasmoid tutorial to augment the examples in kdeexamples: http://ur1.ca/3gsnu | Mar 11 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] as @notmart noted: "more love is needed. writing it could be a very good way to learn the api, so look at it and expand it where needed." | Mar 11 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] in cases like #Japan the #realtime internet search option shows its importance http://is.gd/s5Q1bz too bad @collectadotcom is now 'revising' | Mar 11 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Would more sound if it forbade #3strikes ♺ @glynmoody: Kroes’ No disconnect strategy - http://bit.ly/eknkCc what a sound lady | Mar 11 07:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Ada Initiative Begins Its Study of Gender - Linux Magazine Online http://ping.fm/w8a5I | Mar 11 07:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Natty adds ‘Control Centre’ entry to Session Menu http://goo.gl/FlpgQ !unity | Mar 11 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-11: Press Release: OpenLogic Scan Shows Open Source License Violations for iPhone and Android... http://wmk.me/fuGDrP | Mar 11 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Video release: Minecraft Adventures 5 - Spiders > http://outl.ws/ho0Pm3 #minecraft #linuxoutlaws | Mar 11 08:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Hotot !Identica Client Gets A "Wide" Interface http://goo.gl/63Md4 | Mar 11 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: #Women not allowed to drive in #Saudi, lovers beheaded or stoned in the streets by current regime (cont) http://tl.gd/97fum6 | Mar 11 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/fS1xG8 | Mar 11 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/gSJNfV | Mar 11 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Shelly Glover was lobbied by Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters Canada (CME) on Feb. 22 http://bit.ly/fojVmU | Mar 11 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jospoortvliet: @sabdfl http://bit.ly/fsApCp if this is true you really have to change things if you ever want to work within !gnome | Mar 11 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bonnie Crombie was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/fvzNzx | Mar 11 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bonnie Crombie was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/gs8hrt | Mar 11 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ted Menzies was lobbied by Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters Canada (CME) on Feb. 22 http://bit.ly/h2KVgF | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anthropologists link human uniqueness to hunter-gatherer group structure - http://bit.ly/dNqHD3 about social nws (v @WildForests @mpesce) | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Pablo Rodriguez was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/ihVugZ | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Scott Simms was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/hGDhDf | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Scott Simms was lobbied by Writers Guild of Canada on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/erzqV2 | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Peter Braid was lobbied by Association of University Research Parks Canada on Feb. 02 http://bit.ly/h7Ltwe | Mar 11 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Ed Fast was lobbied by Canadian Recording Industry Association on Mar. 08 http://bit.ly/hhpWZO | Mar 11 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LOPPSI: The Constitutional Council Validates Internet Censorship - http://bit.ly/h0ziz2 censorship is constitutional, eh? handy... | Mar 11 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Heightened state of alert at Japan atom plant http://is.gd/GvWHn3 #IAEA #Japan #quake | Mar 11 08:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Whole lot of lobbying going on. Canadian Medical Association appears to have one the brass ring this time around. | Mar 11 08:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: on #infopolicy: Radical Copyright Monopoly Reform Only Chance For Copyright To Survive At All http://goo.gl/fb/aD1D9 | Mar 11 08:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Falkvinge: If #copyright monopoly isn't radically reduced soon next generation will kill it altogether: http://bit.ly/hbtatm #infopolicy | Mar 11 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @RobertFife Canada sets up 1-800-387-3124 hotline for Cdns needing info on family & friends in Japan. #cndpoli #quake | Mar 11 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moving to open source would save Dutch government 1 to 4 billion' - http://bit.ly/hMOy6T "proprietary standards are most disruptive" #nl | Mar 11 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Radical Copyright Reform Only Chance For #Copyright #Monopoly To Survive - http://bit.ly/dMB2SO let's not be timid: abolition | Mar 11 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Moving to open source would save Dutch government 1 to 4 billion' - http://bit.ly/hMOy6T "proprietary standards are most d ... | Mar 11 08:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Following AFACT v iiNet, Internet Industry Formulates Copyright Code of Conduct - http://bit.ly/gWf6Xn shrewd preemptive move #au | Mar 11 08:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Make: Online » Is It Time to Rebuild & Retool Public Libraries and Make “TechShops”? http://ping.fm/kZT2l | Mar 11 08:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Pidgin 2.7.11 closes DoS bug - The H #Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/77i45 | Mar 11 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Pwn2Own 2011: no-one goes after !Chrome - The H #Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/vRInq | Mar 11 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @ricmarques: PDF do Min.Finanças com medidas de "Actualização Anual do Programa de Estabilidade e Crescimento" (PEC) - http://ae.wu.sl.pt | Mar 11 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to unroot and re-lock the Motorola #Xoom !Android http://ping.fm/MSDxg | Mar 11 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Moving to open source would save #nl government 1 to 4 billion http://bit.ly/hMOy6T proprietary standards are most disruptive | Mar 11 08:50 | |
| sebsebseb | nisshh: oiaohm MinceR Hmm interesting? http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/apt-btrfs-snapshot/ | Mar 11 08:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle accused of stifling HP TPC benchmark http://ping.fm/fcrUP | Mar 11 08:55 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 11 08:56 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: that is part of the long term road map. | Mar 11 08:56 |
| MinceR | looks like what fedora does, iirc | Mar 11 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | they may use BTRFS by default for Ubuntu 11.10, and hype that up of course | Mar 11 08:56 |
| sebsebseb | since it's Ubuntu | Mar 11 08:56 |
| MinceR | you can now just tell btrfs to exempt a subtree from the snapshot? | Mar 11 08:56 |
| oiaohm | btrfs is still not called production ready. | Mar 11 08:56 |
| oiaohm | btrfs has a lot of interesting snapshot features. | Mar 11 08:57 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: might be by Ubuntu 11.10 though? | Mar 11 08:57 |
| MinceR | afaik btrfs is still missing basic tools | Mar 11 08:57 |
| sebsebseb | or is btrfs going to become the new default file system for Ubuntu 12.04 first? | Mar 11 08:57 |
| oiaohm | But also remember snapshots can turn into disk eaters. | Mar 11 08:57 |
| sebsebseb | I been thinking about that as well, how the snapshots will take up hard disk space | Mar 11 08:57 |
| oiaohm | btrfs snapshots are quite effective. | Mar 11 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | really we don't need snapshots in Linux distro's or not useaully anyway, because they work so well :) | Mar 11 08:58 |
| oiaohm | Since they are at the file level. | Mar 11 08:58 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: really we do need snapshots. | Mar 11 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | takes quite a bit to mess up a Linux distro install enough, useually | Mar 11 08:58 |
| MinceR | can btrfs delete snapshots already? | Mar 11 08:58 |
| oiaohm | And well intergrated. | Mar 11 08:58 |
| oiaohm | btrfs can delete snapshots. | Mar 11 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | with snapshots though, can undo most issues | Mar 11 08:58 |
| oiaohm | Lets say you try a upgrade and it goes bad. sebsebseb | Mar 11 08:58 |
| sebsebseb | should get rid of a lot of support issues in support channels | Mar 11 08:58 |
| MinceR | my killer use case for snapshots is backup | Mar 11 08:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle really are an miasma of a company aren't they? Dirty, murky, shady, and slimy: that's what I mean | Mar 11 08:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle really are a miasma of a company aren't they? Dirty, murky, shady, and slimy: that's what I mean | Mar 11 08:59 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: true for that kind of thing, but in general snapshots aren't needed | Mar 11 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | as such | Mar 11 08:59 |
| MinceR | make a readonly snapshot, start backup from it, return to normal computer use while it finishes | Mar 11 08:59 |
| oiaohm | Next is snapshoting assists doing backups. | Mar 11 08:59 |
| MinceR | and then delete the snapshot. | Mar 11 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | or let's say someone is on Ubuntu, and they reolise that the next version sucks even more after upgrading to it | Mar 11 08:59 |
| sebsebseb | so they downgrade using a snapshot :D | Mar 11 08:59 |
| oiaohm | Really this is a sneaky method. | Mar 11 08:59 |
| oiaohm | Now tell btrfs to take a snapshot. | Mar 11 08:59 |
| oiaohm | Mount that snapshot elsewhere | Mar 11 09:00 |
| oiaohm | do backup off that snapshot | Mar 11 09:00 |
| oiaohm | You can copy what would be otherwise locked files that way. | Mar 11 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud 1.2 Adds Integrated Dropbox, Better Performance to Cloud-Based Desktop [Updates] http://ping.fm/AUeCA | Mar 11 09:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] True collaboration embraces conflict | http://bit.ly/h7orX3 #hackmanagement | Mar 11 09:00 | |
| oiaohm | One of the most interesting features of btrfs is that you can have a tree of snapshots | Mar 11 09:01 |
| oiaohm | Handy for the likes of containers. And there are such things as writable snapshots. | Mar 11 09:01 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: I don't know much about btfs, same for wayland, and both are being hyped up here and there | Mar 11 09:02 |
| oiaohm | btrfs has lots of good features. | Mar 11 09:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @newscientist: Tumours could be the ancestors of animals http://bit.ly/fUImYg <<cancer as a living fossil | Mar 11 09:04 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: such as? | Mar 11 09:04 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Subvolumes_and_snapshots | Mar 11 09:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux Insider: Who Are the FOSS Police? http://ping.fm/aak27 | Mar 11 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I found it, but still needs to get my head around how to make it visible !GNU !Fedora !Scribus | Mar 11 09:05 | |
| oiaohm | True multi OS's in 1 partition without argueing with each other sebsebseb | Mar 11 09:05 |
| sebsebseb | loads of distro's in the same partition? | Mar 11 09:06 |
| oiaohm | Subvolumes inside a partition. | Mar 11 09:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes you could put loads of distros inside the same volume. | Mar 11 09:06 |
| sebsebseb | how would you select between them? | Mar 11 09:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @opensourceway True collaboration embraces conflict | http://bit.ly/h7orX3 #hackmanagement | Mar 11 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] brb, encrypting ~ | Mar 11 09:07 | |
| sebsebseb | Today I want to run Mageia :) Today I want to run Linux Mint, how would switch between? | Mar 11 09:07 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: fairly simply with supporting bootloader of course. | Mar 11 09:08 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: btrfs really takes current tech past what we are use to. | Mar 11 09:09 |
| sebsebseb | btrfs makes current partition set ups | Mar 11 09:09 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: You can mout btrfs filesystem by subvolume. | Mar 11 09:09 |
| sebsebseb | a thing of the past | Mar 11 09:09 |
| sebsebseb | you mean? | Mar 11 09:09 |
| oiaohm | No different. | Mar 11 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Interesting blogpost by @nearyd Has GNOME rejected Canonical help?http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/03/07/has-gnome-rejected-canonical-help/ | Mar 11 09:10 | |
| oiaohm | btrfs is a object based filesystem approce to raid | Mar 11 09:11 |
| oiaohm | So unlike old raids in a stripe where a file could end up split between multi drives | Mar 11 09:11 |
| oiaohm | Under btrfs the whole files get placed on the drives. | Mar 11 09:12 |
| oiaohm | This does improve odds of data recovery in case of a broken raid. | Mar 11 09:12 |
| oiaohm | btrfs also brings support for its partition to be resized while its mounted . sebsebseb | Mar 11 09:13 |
| oiaohm | Even moving between harddrives while it mounted. So allowing defective drives to be removed with less distrubance. | Mar 11 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell D.C. Dems to take a lesson from the #Wisconsin14. It's time to stand and fight! http://bit.ly/ecItYu | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Copyright Troll Righthaven Complains of Defendant's Legal Fees - Slashdot http://ping.fm/T6iPE | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: We missed this hilarious, and true story, about Assange gate-crashing a US embassy cocktail party htt... http://bit.ly/g35r6V | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks cables: Indonesian President Yudhoyono is deeply corrupt http://theage.com.au/frontpage/201... http://bit.ly/f6UtN6 | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Stripped naked every night, Bradley #Manning tells of prison ordeal from http://ur1.ca/3gtdc #wikileaks | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US State Department condemns treatment of Manning: "ridiculous, counter-productive and stupid" http://is.gd/HM5AcG !wl | Mar 11 09:15 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically btrfs removes a lot of the limits filesystem have normally placed on us. | Mar 11 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] State Department spokesman: Abuse of #Manning "is ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid." > http://goo.gl/qqtLS !wl | Mar 11 09:17 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: also the big thing that is not talking about is btrfs supports compression at filesystem level. | Mar 11 09:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android survives #Pwn2Own hacking contest http://ping.fm/wh2i8 | Mar 11 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @zack: Bdale Garbee—former #Debian project leader—joins the #freedombox foundation as chair of the tech ctte http://ur1.ca/3gtce @bdale | Mar 11 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Neil J Patel: Of Borders and Shadows http://goo.gl/Yu8RM | Mar 11 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @silner: #Android survives #Pwn2Own hacking contest http://ping.fm/wh2i8 | Mar 11 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing podcasts... | Mar 11 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia's "left wing" government considered charging Assange with treason http://is.gd/oX9FTO !wl | Mar 11 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Copyright flaws: Consumers impacted if issues not resolved in new law Montreal Gazette http://bit.ly/fxlyQ2 | Mar 11 09:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Wikileaks: Manning's dad protests conditions of son's incarceration, new legal filing complains conditions unjust http://ur1.ca/3gtfm | Mar 11 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Neil J Patel: Of Borders and Shadows http://goo.gl/Yu8RM | Mar 11 09:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Balanced, neutral journalism is RUBBISH and that's a FACT (The Register): http://bit.ly/eDaVBD | Mar 11 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Indonesian President Yudhoyono's top adviser a Timor war crimes suspect | SMH http://is.gd/JrD9AE !wl | Mar 11 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Zeinobia: #ByebyeMubarak 11022011 is remarkable day #Egypt #jan25 | Mar 11 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] AOL CEO: Layoffs today, bright future ahead - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/fNWrYc | Mar 11 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SoftMaker Office coming to !Android http://ping.fm/n6HOI | Mar 11 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Veteran Journos Out as AOL-Huffington Cuts 900 Jobs (Wired.com): http://bit.ly/fSdhpg | Mar 11 09:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google ads news flash to bottom of search page about possible Tsunami to hit New Zealand etc. "Caused by 8.9 earthquake in Japan" google.com | Mar 11 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Cutting Assange loose demeans our nation http://is.gd/N4iF6P !wl | Mar 11 09:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Opera now has search hijack prevention | Mar 11 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | probably to stop random Windows apps from changing your search bar into a whore bar (those mainly go after IE and Firefox anyway) | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | but it also stops Linux Mint from hijacking you to their Google Custom Search | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | I had asked them if they were going to do anything about that | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | this latest 11.10 build fixes all the bugs I've reported | Mar 11 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: @sabdfl claims that #Mozilla requires copyright assignment for contributions to #Firefox http://ur1.ca/3gnto | Mar 11 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: @mairin except #Mozilla does not require copyright assignment; IIRC committers agree to license own copyrights under (typically) | Mar 11 09:45 | |
| DaemonFC | open source software is not free if they demand copyright assignment | Mar 11 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | The Document Foundation has no legal standing to enforce the license of most code in LibreOffice, for example | Mar 11 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @sabdfl "we prefer to maintain copyright integrity" Ahahahaha.....Yeah, nice spin on that one, Mark.... | Mar 11 09:47 | |
| DaemonFC | the only way copyright assignment is ever OK is if there's a clause in the agreement that returns the sole copyright back to the contributor if the upstream starts doing bad things with it, like selling it under proprietary licenses | Mar 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | if I recall correctly, the FSF has such a section in their assignment agreement | Mar 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who is dumb enough to contribute free code to Canonical's projects better not bitch when it ends up in someone's proprietary software | Mar 11 09:50 |
| MinceR | i wasn't aware of such clauses | Mar 11 09:50 |
| MinceR | but sounds kind of neat | Mar 11 09:50 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Canonical basically has unilateral decision making and legal ownership of any code that anyone gives them to put in their projects | Mar 11 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not really free software, the GPL is just a window dressing that Canonical is free to ditch any time it likes | Mar 11 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | sure you can fork it, but then you don't have the legal standing to protect your fork | Mar 11 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to ask Canonical to please sue the people that ripped you off | Mar 11 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | IANAL, but this just reeks | Mar 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably a good thing that they don't actually produce anything meaningful that other distributions want to use anyway | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is the only other distro using Upstart, and that gets ditched in 15 | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | a few distros have Simple Scan, whoopidy doo | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | the bulk of their code is only used by them anyway | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | reminds me of when Linus explained git | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | everyone has a branch and if you do stupid work in your branch, everyone else can ignore you and go right on trucking | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | or something to that effect :) | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | most of the stuff that comes out of Canonical is stupid, redundant, full of bugs, or mix and match those three | Mar 11 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | if you even attempt to configure your system a little bit, it all comes down like a stack of cards | Mar 11 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's more true with Ubuntu than the other variants | Mar 11 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fantastic! rd @martinvars Fon is opening its WiFi network, the largest in Japan for all to use until emergency is over http://bit.ly/hcXyac | Mar 11 09:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where to begin, I guess they kind of lost me when they replaced Pidgin with something that crashes all the time, has no configuration options, and uses the same amount of resources (Empathy) | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | *shivers* | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | but then, that brain damage has made its way into most distros now, it's a GNOME thing | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | if I had a dollar for every time Apport popped up and told me Telepathy crashed (like I hadn't noticed already) and badgered me into filing a bug report only to find out that my bug report is actually comment # 5 billion on the Launchpad site for that issue | Mar 11 10:00 |
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| DaemonFC | ... | Mar 11 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's a lot easier to use Windows if all you were expecting is bugs and random failures anyway | Mar 11 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | it has more software :) | Mar 11 10:01 |
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| DaemonFC | jono: I came up with a finish for that | Mar 11 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | (10:00:15 AM) DaemonFC: if I had a dollar for every time Apport popped up and told me Telepathy crashed (like I hadn't noticed already) and badgered me into filing a bug report only to find out that my bug report is actually comment # 5 billion on the Launchpad site for that issue | Mar 11 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'd pay jono to fix Empathy | Mar 11 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | I swear some of the decision making at Ubuntu is specifically just to fuck with users who were getting too comfortable with non-broken software | Mar 11 10:04 |
| *DaemonFC deletes Bing from his Opera search engine list | Mar 11 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righthaven accuses defendant of running up legal fees in copyright case - http://bit.ly/evZkoF shameless much? #copyright | Mar 11 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tunisian-WikiLeaks publisher Nawaat wins RSF freedom of expression prize http://is.gd/QUVKnS !wl | Mar 11 10:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time to Break Out the Digital Quills Again... - http://bit.ly/h6Uc2A 3 irresistible requests for your thoughts on copyright & open standards | Mar 11 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Hotot Twitter Client Gets A "Wide" Interface http://bit.ly/gbVfAU | Mar 11 10:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Obviously, an ocelot is a bird." Quality !LO quote from @methoddan on the podcast I'm just editing. :D | Mar 11 10:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Amnesty: "We've always known they knew that things were happening -- and WikiLeaks proves it" http://is.gd/dVXFl0 !wl | Mar 11 10:15 | |
| MinceR | 160133 < DaemonFC> it's a lot easier to use Windows if all you were expecting is bugs and random failures anyway | Mar 11 10:16 |
| MinceR | > it has more bugs | Mar 11 10:16 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Mar 11 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | as Sarah Palin might say | Mar 11 10:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What's Cooking For Mesa & X.Org This Summer?: Summer is quickly approaching in the northern hemisphere so that m... http://bit.ly/hbrD2m | Mar 11 10:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Ad: "Italy's #1 eating cheese!" What the hell else are they doing with their cheese? | Mar 11 10:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Yay sure you betcha, but it don't get all open sourcey hopey changey on ya | Mar 11 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 10:17 |
| MinceR | i care about free software, not open source :> | Mar 11 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | you know you can't fix it and go straight to acceptance | Mar 11 10:18 |
| MinceR | and i don't care for all the "let's make a cheaper macos" projects | Mar 11 10:18 |
| MinceR | and i don't care for sarah palin either | Mar 11 10:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Who else would declare IE9 more "secure" than all others except in a M$ funded report? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374344,00.asp | Mar 11 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update: http://wlcentral.org/ !wl | Mar 11 10:20 | |
| DaemonFC | well, if they really want to emulate Mac OS, they should turn off all their security features and leave critical bugs unpatched for 8-9 months | Mar 11 10:21 |
| MinceR | they might do just that | Mar 11 10:21 |
| MinceR | or the product pitch will be "it's just like macos, except gratis and less insecure" | Mar 11 10:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Intellectual Property Demands for #TPP Leak: Everything it Wanted in ACTA But Didn't Get - http://bit.ly/gBcFB0 great summary | Mar 11 10:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @p2pnet Activists declare March 20 Saudi Revolution. 'Democracy is Islam' http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49833 | Mar 11 10:22 | |
| DaemonFC | at least they finally did get rid of JAVA | Mar 11 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | they never supported it well anyway and the thing leaks like a sieve | Mar 11 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's bad enough if it is up to date | Mar 11 10:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Popping out for a smoke... | Mar 11 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL!!! :D ♺ @dickturpin: Here it is folks my "I was insulted by Fab" badge http://tinyurl.com/6bnubah Just a bit of fun #lo | Mar 11 10:24 | |
| MinceR | i don't agree with that decision | Mar 11 10:25 |
| MinceR | it was in many ways saner than crApple stuff and crApple platforms | Mar 11 10:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @GadgetZoneRO: RT @gsmdome: #Motorola Xoom Already Updated! Receives Flash Player 10.2 Support Via OTA Today http://gsmdo.me/ftJvX1 | Mar 11 10:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @legiinternet: Hai sa comentam o stire care nu exista - fuziunea UPC - RDS. CC are opinia normala "pe ce sa comentam?" http://is.gd/Dil8IZ | Mar 11 10:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @mageia Blog info: now, EN: http://dlvr.it/Jx3W8 and PT: http://dlvr.it/Jx3WB Update your bookmarks/readers! :-) !mageia | Mar 11 10:25 | |
| MinceR | that's not saying much, but anyway | Mar 11 10:25 |
| MinceR | doesn't surprise me though, after the stuff they did on hypeOS... | Mar 11 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | yes they did that to prop up their own business | Mar 11 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't mean JAVA is any good | Mar 11 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 10:26 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean whatever users will be stuck with is any better | Mar 11 10:27 |
| cubezzz | I still use java applets from 1996 | Mar 11 10:28 |
| cubezzz | they still work | Mar 11 10:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Morse code translator http://is.gd/X9ZkVZ fully adjustable #morse #telegraphy #software | Mar 11 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what exactly is an "intellectual property activist?" http://tighturl.com/2zwt with Florian Meuller listed as one, I guess it means pro-IP | Mar 11 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] aka "an activist seeking to expand IP laws into everywhere so their employers monopolies are assured" | Mar 11 10:30 | |
| cubezzz | prefer using C and Xlib though | Mar 11 10:31 |
| cubezzz | not as universal but it runs on Linux & BSD | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, this is interesting | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | the latest free radeon stack is about 2/3rds the speed of Catalyst on my 4670 | Mar 11 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #China housing boom resists property tax squeeze http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12686549 #social #harmoney | Mar 11 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Right now's the time to download and set up Sahana. FOSS disaster-management software. http://sahanafoundation.org/ | Mar 11 10:32 | |
| DaemonFC | at least on Sauerbraten B-) | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | the gap is narrowing at least | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | maybe sometime before the end of the world my 5670 with work well too :) | Mar 11 10:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORGZine - http://bit.ly/epKa4Z nothing to do with Wilhelm Reich, alas, but a rather good new online mag from those right-on #ORG people | Mar 11 10:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] there is a too big gap between poor and rich; economic inequality. | Mar 11 10:34 | |
| DaemonFC | the free software stack is perverse like that | Mar 11 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | the older your stuff is the better it works | Mar 11 10:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] ircd-seven v1.1 is being rolled out on freenode soon !irc | Mar 11 10:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] top brass such as coppers and politicians really need their asses legally handed to them when they knowingly lie http://tighturl.com/2zwu | Mar 11 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to fill in the UK #census form - http://bit.ly/gdjvqn excellent stuff; comments are rather good, too (v @elmyra) | Mar 11 10:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu Ambiance / Radiance Themes Are Now Borderless [Ubuntu #Natty Updates] http://goo.gl/rX4tG | Mar 11 10:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dear #TVLicense enforcers, my shredder has gotten addicted to your threats, it's having withdrawals since you stopped sending them (pt1) | Mar 11 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would you please have some sympathy for my shredder and send me some more threatening letters? Thanks #WontSomeoneThinkOfTheShredders (pt2) | Mar 11 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @bethnoveck: Danny Weitzner, former MIT, W3C, NTIA, now new US Deputy CTO for Internet Policy. http://bit.ly/id5EIQ #opengov | Mar 11 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rubber stamp really rd @skinnylatte the president of Singapore now makes something like 4.2 bloody million dollars. For being a figurehead. | Mar 11 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rd @skinnylatte Of course there was no debate at all about his pay rise of 800 thousand dollars. | Mar 11 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh for some reason I pictured "crazy shit" as Mel Gibson doing his crazy act while sitting on the throne with his trousers at his ankles | Mar 11 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Earthquake turns TV networks into print - http://bit.ly/gD1xgw good analysis (v @mathewi) #media | Mar 11 10:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CJCherryh: OK, friends, —NOW YOU CAN HELP US!!!: Jane’s Groundties is up on Amazon Kindle... http://bit.ly/hfQOfz | Mar 11 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having handwriting that's almost impossible to read (even for me) is handy to legally do things like the census | Mar 11 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] downside is that I don't choose to have bad handwriting, 99.995 of the time I really wish I didn't have it | Mar 11 11:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, census - "job - paid skivy" | Mar 11 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft To Lose Control Of Netbook World By Patrick Gassert http://ping.fm/Y56r5 | Mar 11 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] The history of #science #fiction http://scimaps.org/submissions/7-digital_libraries/maps/thumbs/024_LG.jpg #sciencefiction, #geek | Mar 11 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ggreenwald confirmation of PJ Crowley's condemnation of #Manning's detention conditions - called it "mistreatment" http://is.gd/OvFXnf | Mar 11 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Microsoft To Lose Control Of Netbook World By Patrick Gassert http://ping.fm/Y56r5 | Mar 11 11:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a2Sc0Tuqp8&feature=related | Mar 11 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | love that movie | Mar 11 11:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Miguel de Icaza respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 http://ping.fm/7MxXt | Mar 11 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Average Brit has three mysterious keys - http://bit.ly/fMKOB4 what a perfectly wonderful stat | Mar 11 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] copy cat! http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-simple-programs-manage-multiple-windows/ #fb | Mar 11 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @txt ♻ @lovenemesis GPL expert gives Red Hat the all-clear: http://is.gd/QHTtI3 !gnu !linux | Mar 11 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jimmac Huge fires is not quite the thing on my mind when someone says tsunami. http://is.gd/VbvPoL | Mar 11 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: U.S. Intellectual Property Demands for #TPP Leak: Everything it Wanted in ACTA But Didn't Get - http://bit.ly/gBcFB0 ... | Mar 11 11:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Ambiance / Radiance Themes Are Now Borderless [Ubuntu 11.04 Updates] http://bit.ly/fQBEx4 | Mar 11 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @p2pnet: Is an American ‘Day of Rage’ nigh? Could it be? http://www.p2pnet.net/story/49832 | Mar 11 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I give up trying to get GRUB to recognize my display settings | Mar 11 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | now I see why so many distributions aren't using GRUB 2 | Mar 11 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's less buggy but the configuration is a nightmare | Mar 11 11:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Are all M$ corporate-types stand-up comics? http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/03/10/microsoft_on_the_cloud/ #fb | Mar 11 11:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mohanpram Hopefully gPodder will be available on !android one of these days | Mar 11 11:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rd @martinvars Work just finished, bravo to our engineers in Madrid, over 1/2mill Fon hotspots now open & free in Japan http://bit.ly/hcXyac | Mar 11 11:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with author of The 100 Thing Challenge - http://bit.ly/efsKRa "cannot buy the stuff we all long for the most"; good insights | Mar 11 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #minecraft is becoming my new IRC. | Mar 11 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @caostheory Novell's sale to Attachmate has been delayed until at least April 12, due to concerns related to patent sale. http://bit. ... | Mar 11 11:37 | |
| DaemonFC | some German company has backported KDE 4.6.1 to Mandriva 2010.2 | Mar 11 11:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Important is Software? Generational Differences Between Software Producers - http://bit.ly/fh4Vgh useful categorisation #freesw #data | Mar 11 11:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @claudiom: My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in Japan, Hawaii, and anywhere else that will be affected by the tsunamis. | Mar 11 11:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb @claudiom: My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in Japan, Hawaii, and anywhere else that will be affected by tsunamis | Mar 11 11:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] still not used to hearing church bells several times a day. they sound foreign and quaint to my canuck ears :) | Mar 11 12:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] reject #ACTA by whatever name they choose to rewrap and reheat it http://tighturl.com/2zwz #TPP #anticonsumer | Mar 11 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] does the name "penile colony" suggest an unwanted party in the showers as part of the deterrent? #penalcolony | Mar 11 12:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla Moves On (ComputerWorld) http://lwn.net/Articles/433053/rss | Mar 11 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WTF? Prince Andrew to take "human rights awareness training" These people are BRED to rule, qualified by DNA http://tighturl.com/2zx1 | Mar 11 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fosspatents "non-judgemental" does not sit with "activist", activist implies an active role, which implies taking a stance and promoting it | Mar 11 12:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will #LadyBoyGaGa be suing #Kajagoogoo over similar sounding baby noises? "My fans may mistake the garbling of a toddler for my work" | Mar 11 12:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @DanielEllsberg: Rally for Bradley, 3/20 at Quantico- I'll be speaking there http://bit.ly/fN8Gvq /via @ioerror !wikileaks #Manning | Mar 11 12:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia: Transition to #Windows Phone to take about two years - http://zd.net/ejXBZS a mere 14 years on Internet time... #doomed | Mar 11 12:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] While neither deal resulted in Microsoft purchasing another company, (...) | Mar 11 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] (...) Microsoft is getting most, if not all, of the things it wanted from each of those partners (...) | Mar 11 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh: I think ocelots like to eat birds ;) | Mar 11 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] (...)without actually having to pay for the entire company and then integrate it into the mothership. Mary Jo Foley http://ur1.ca/3gvdq | Mar 11 12:39 | |
| DaemonFC | jono: I've learned something wrestling with Chrome and AppArmor | Mar 11 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | they just can't get along | Mar 11 12:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] am I the only person who thinks ANY office tasks like word processing on a #smartphone would be hell? regardless of the platform | Mar 11 12:42 | |
| DaemonFC | I doubt there's one folder on disk it doesn't touch or in /proc or /sys that it doesn't mmap | Mar 11 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is insane | Mar 11 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | and every time they bump the version it does something to break your working AppArmor profile :) | Mar 11 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Nice concise handout: 7 Things You Should Know About Open Textbook Publishing - http://goo.gl/W7CUY #CC #OER | Mar 11 12:44 | |
| *DaemonFC wonders what the story is with GRUB 2 on OpenSuse | Mar 11 12:44 | |
| DaemonFC | is it going to let me choose it at install time or do I have to cross my fingers that update-grub won't freeze and I can get rebooted at least once, so I can do it myself? :) | Mar 11 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB 1 is some seriously fucked up shit | Mar 11 12:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Worst job in New York pays $22/hour: http://wrd.tw/hEqgNC | Mar 11 12:45 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and New York is also where they impose a tax on sliced bagels and soda pop | Mar 11 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | you need $22 an hour just to break even with minimum wage anywhere else | Mar 11 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | the Democrats have attached a tax to everything | Mar 11 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | tax the poor and take their guns | Mar 11 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | good strategy | Mar 11 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | very logical | Mar 11 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | don't you agree MinceR? :) | Mar 11 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | sounds almost like a feudal system to me | Mar 11 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | Sire, the peasants are revolting! | Mar 11 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | "They've always been revolting, now they're rebelling!" | Mar 11 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Condolences to our friends in #Nihon (aka #Japan—I strongly dislike exonyms). | Mar 11 12:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't see how they can say they're the party of the working man, if they were they'd be going after the millionaires and billionaires and quit trying to figure out how to tax my breakfast | Mar 11 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | this mess all happened because they stopped being a labor party and starting making a three ringed circus out of minorities | Mar 11 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There was a minor scandal back when Clinton was running in '96 | Mar 11 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | he had his guys out bribing homeless people to vote with packs of cigarettes | Mar 11 12:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Prepare for the deluge of nonsense that'll surely come from #religious #fundies trying to "explain" the #tsunami in #Nihon. | Mar 11 12:54 | |
| DaemonFC | I see that OMG SUSE! has managed to make an entire page about GRUB2 without saying whether or not it's an option in the installer | Mar 11 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Danger, danger Will Robinson! GRUB 1 is a pile of shit and will eat your XFS file systems for breakfast!" | Mar 11 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 12:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Thanks Everybody who meet me and had discussion at KDEConf, #kdeconf #confkdein | Mar 11 12:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Fedora's answer is that if you want to use XFS, make a separate boot partition with ext* and crap up your partition table needlessly to work around their buggy bootloader | Mar 11 12:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: here the nazis want to put extra tax on foods they've decided are unhealthy | Mar 11 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | then if you get the bright idea to install GRUB 2 yourself, it will chainload the thing from GRUB 1! | Mar 11 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | and if you think about installing it to the MBR, then "grubby" won't add new kernels to your menu | Mar 11 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 12:58 |
| MinceR | i think it's the christian nazi party, they're the ones who like to pretend they're turning morals into law | Mar 11 12:58 |
| MinceR | (of course it's bullshit christian morality) | Mar 11 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, we can't let you weigh more than the government approved amount, unless you pay us to ignore it | Mar 11 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | same policy as "global warming" | Mar 11 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | coincidence? :D | Mar 11 12:59 |
| MinceR | not really the same | Mar 11 12:59 |
| MinceR | 1) i can weigh less even if i eat those things | Mar 11 12:59 |
| MinceR | 2) by weighing more, i'm still not destroying the biosphere the entire human race depends on for its survival | Mar 11 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's all about controlling behavior via the tax code | Mar 11 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | it is fascism | Mar 11 13:00 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Mar 11 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | get insurance or else! | Mar 11 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | but I can't afford it! I can barely make my rent as is | Mar 11 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fine, we'll just up your taxes instead and give you nothing | Mar 11 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | hahaha | Mar 11 13:01 |
| MinceR | we have tax disguised as insurance | Mar 11 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | you WILL enrich the corporate insurance cartels! | Mar 11 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | comply, comply! | Mar 11 13:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I just got side popup, Firefox 4 RC 1 is available ! but i am still using beta 1, cause I love firebug... | Mar 11 13:02 | |
| DaemonFC | if it was socialism, the plan would be ran by the government and rationed out, this is crony capitalism | Mar 11 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | the main difference is who does the rationing and for what reason | Mar 11 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | now everyone gets "managed care" | Mar 11 13:03 |
| MinceR | i think we got national socialism | Mar 11 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | Oh look, we can save $5 by amputating your arms instead of treating your diabetes! | Mar 11 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | let's do that | Mar 11 13:04 |
| MinceR | with state-sponsored impediments to competition | Mar 11 13:04 |
| MinceR | and socialization of property | Mar 11 13:04 |
| MinceR | and a lot of nationalist propaganda on top | Mar 11 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | socialists always know how to spend other peoples money | Mar 11 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | better than you can manage it yourself in fact | Mar 11 13:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] In Austin for #SXSW? Stop by the Fedora Project booth (344) next week for info on CC: http://bit.ly/eaAJND | Mar 11 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If I only could get @methoddan into #Minecraft. We could do a show from there.... :D | Mar 11 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my 1st college ID had the wrong DOB making me 8mths old, I wish I'd kept it as a memento instead of getting it fixed | Mar 11 13:05 | |
| DaemonFC | didn't you know that for every 10 people who pay taxes, someone gets to sit on their ass and claim disability for "depression"? | Mar 11 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's so fucking awesome! | Mar 11 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | my cousin's mother in law gets $2,200 a month, tax free | Mar 11 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | because she is "depressed" | Mar 11 13:06 |
| MinceR | i'm being repressed | Mar 11 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | she was trying to bum money off me for cigarettes | Mar 11 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Slit your wrists or go back to work already!" | Mar 11 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | we haven't spoken much since :) | Mar 11 13:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 13:07 |
| MinceR | "remember kids, it's down the road, not across the street!" | Mar 11 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | attention, attention (side to side) | Mar 11 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | for real, for real (up and down) | Mar 11 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 11 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be damned if someone who makes more than I do and doesn't have to work for it, and pays no taxes is going to bum $5 from me for a pack of cigarettes | Mar 11 13:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 11 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | let me bust out my little violin | Mar 11 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 11 13:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/433041/rss | Mar 11 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just as well registering a domain name and throwing a site up doesn't require a sanity test http://qubitarkhive.com/ lol | Mar 11 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Made some contributions for utouch and now Canonical asks me to sign a CCA. I asked for one that promises to keep them as !FreeSoftware | Mar 11 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another problem is that I have moral rights which are inalienable, and with them I can also enforce software freedom. | Mar 11 13:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Not always, though. ♺ @fabsh: @nailuj Why? It's a good argument. Copyright assignment is crap. It only serves coporate monetary interests. | Mar 11 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I already give people the four freedoms. That has to be enough. The copyright stays mine! Nobody needs that on top. Unreasonable. | Mar 11 13:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] State Department flack @PJCrowley transcript http://is.gd/09qK8m !wl | Mar 11 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn, fast funk rhythm makes yer strummin' arm ache in short order | Mar 11 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Nevernote Ubuntu PPA http://bit.ly/fx07ng | Mar 11 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Postler, Dexter, Midori, Etc. From A New Elementary Desktop PPA http://bit.ly/eKwwRC | Mar 11 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh respecting others' freedoms is great, but *defending* them may require copyright standing and legal action | Mar 11 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh so unless you're willing and going to defend freedom, transfer the © to the FSF so they can do so and keep the software Free | Mar 11 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Hey wait, I got the best way to create presentations, Create it using Markdown and find the way to convert it into Beamer or/and S5/S9(ruby) | Mar 11 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Indicator-Network is looking good in #Natty http://goo.gl/N7rUb | Mar 11 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Light-themes go borderless for #Natty http://goo.gl/CZvIP | Mar 11 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Twitter: Please sort out your messaging system. It SUCKS. #Twitterfail | Mar 11 13:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] You know it's more fun following @pmoharper the satire account than the real @pmharper - I think that this is a sad sign for democracy. | Mar 11 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] acabo de ter o prazer de confirmar o pedido de portabilidade da Telefonica para a GVT | Mar 11 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #Nokia: Transition to #Windows Phone to take about two years - http://zd.net/ejXBZS - mere 14 years in Internet time #doomed | Mar 11 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “se essa oferta houvesse sido feita *antes*, quando a gente pediu, poderíamos pensar em ficar. agora é tarde demais” | Mar 11 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Can't enough of the song "#Jesus Saves!" from the album #Maranatha by #FuneralMist. http://ur1.ca/3gvxv #blackmetal | Mar 11 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Can't get enough of the song "#Jesus Saves!" from the album #Maranatha by #FuneralMist. http://ur1.ca/3gvxv #blackmetal | Mar 11 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ElizabethMay: Reports of 2 Japanese nuclear reactors not yet shut down. They are evacuating a 2 km area around them. Very worrying #GPC | Mar 11 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Install #Postler, #Dexter, #Midori, Etc. From A New #Elementary Desktop !PPA http://goo.gl/OOj9w | Mar 11 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Neary - Lessons learned: "Deep mistrust has developed between !Canonical, !GNOME & KDE" http://goo.gl/FYS4o !u | Mar 11 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Atualizando as bases de dados do Clamav – Freshclam: p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }Quando se instala o ... http://bit.ly/dPQ8Ky | Mar 11 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Internet Explorer 9 Will Never Be Number One - PCWorld Business Center http://ow.ly/4cHkq | Mar 11 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Een mogelijke Amerikaanse strafvervolging van Rob Gonggrijp wegens zijn vermeende betrokkenheid bij Wikileaks http://is.gd/ITpT2O !wl | Mar 11 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Adobe Flash 10.2 coming to Xoom and !Android phones March 18 http://goo.gl/fDvB5 | Mar 11 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: YouTube’s move to more premium content is good news for Google TV http://goo.gl/8UxtA !android | Mar 11 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva I'm prepared to do that for myself, not others though... | Mar 11 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @lxoliva Nope. Nobody gets my copyright. Besides, I can't transfer it under German law apparently (IANAL). | Mar 11 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ARGH comet.co.uk has javascript EVERYWHERE, shit popping up, sliding in everywhere you move the pointer, takes AGES to render pages too | Mar 11 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We need right-to-left support in our website CSS. Can you help us? See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/2692 for more info. | Mar 11 14:34 | |
| GoForbes28 | Friends, meet the sucessor to the beloved ACTA http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MichaelGeistsBlog/~3/FwTgtEhc-38/ | Mar 11 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We've been nominated for the Index on Censorship New Media Award: http://indexoncensorship.org/2011/03/free-expression-awards-2011-new-media | Mar 11 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Apple fanboy zealots are really a sad sad bunch http://goo.gl/fnz54 | Mar 11 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gbagbo exclusively funds Ble Goude with Ivorian taxpayers' money for years http://alturl.com/2arpk !wl | Mar 11 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Pleased to see CRTC opening #UBB review online + public hearing. Also will get a real debate on "congestion". /2 | Mar 11 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: CRTC focussed on #UBB but door must still be open to Canadians' broader concerns re pricing & competition. | Mar 11 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @evan: “Roll Your Own Foursquare: Ushahidi Launches Open-Source Location Service” — http://ur1.ca/3gwer Nice! Is it federated? #fsw | Mar 11 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @scifly: @fabsh precisely, writing floss software, the only right I retain is the authorship, and I won't give that up. | Mar 11 14:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva under Portuguese law we have the traditional copyright + moral rights (and these are inalienable). | Mar 11 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 176 dents! | Mar 11 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] about 90% settled on an Intel i3 laptop, Acer? Asus? HP? Dell? others? not quite sure as yet | Mar 11 14:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Novell sale to Attachmate delayed until April - due to DoJ patent investigation (InternetNews): http://bit.ly/dGBHzZ | Mar 11 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #bancarrotasocrates: ora aí está mais um PEC, tb conhecido por bancarrota4.... os mesmos de sempre pagam e calam! http://ur1.ca/3gwjm | Mar 11 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @threethirty @xenijardin @JPBarlow: "The entire coast of Japan has permanently moved 8ft (2.4m) after this earthquake" | Mar 11 14:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | Man, the world sucks, doesn't it | Mar 11 14:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @evan: “Roll Your Own Foursquare: Ushahidi Launches FOSS Location Service” — http://ur1.ca/3gwer Nice! Is it federated? cc @afromusing | Mar 11 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Owen Taylor on !GNOME vs !Canonical: What does the user see? http://goo.gl/BQ9Tv !u | Mar 11 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Please! Demand equal treatment for the #Army’s #nonreligious soldiers http://ur1.ca/3gwlq #discrimination #secular | Mar 11 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Friday's Featured Merchandise: Get your "fresh kernels" here: http://bit.ly/aUuYRZ #linux | Mar 11 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Plopp. Flensburger Pilsener. :) | Mar 11 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] o | Mar 11 15:09 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Hi Jake | Mar 11 15:10 |
| jake | hey | Mar 11 15:10 |
| GoForbes28 | what brings you here? | Mar 11 15:10 |
| jake | you guys might be interested in this: http://twitter.com/#!/koush/status/46299788655869952 | Mar 11 15:10 |
| jake | Motorola Xoom is bundled with Mono | Mar 11 15:10 |
| jake | I assume it's not part of Honeycomb itself | Mar 11 15:11 |
| GoForbes28 | That is indeed interested | Mar 11 15:11 |
| GoForbes28 | interesting | Mar 11 15:11 |
| GoForbes28 | unfortunately, Roy is moving right now | Mar 11 15:12 |
| GoForbes28 | I will add it to the Wiki | Mar 11 15:12 |
| jake | ok | Mar 11 15:12 |
| bentkus | with mono or monodroid? | Mar 11 15:12 |
| jake | Mono, looks like as part of Unity3D | Mar 11 15:13 |
| bentkus | now .net is everywhere | Mar 11 15:13 |
| jake | yea, poisoning everything | Mar 11 15:13 |
| bentkus | stupid C# developers | Mar 11 15:14 |
| jake | yea | Mar 11 15:14 |
| GoForbes28 | We just need to be a bit more careful choosing software products | Mar 11 15:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Including Free software | Mar 11 15:15 |
| GoForbes28 | KDE and XFCE, will never include mono AFAIK | Mar 11 15:15 |
| jake | that's what they said about android too | Mar 11 15:16 |
| jake | but now look | Mar 11 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | Thanks Jake, your tweet has been recorded | Mar 11 15:16 |
| jake | no prob, glad to help | Mar 11 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | And yes, Android is a target, but it hasn't been dominated yet | Mar 11 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | There is plenty of Mono-free android still | Mar 11 15:16 |
| jake | the Xoom is positioned to be a very popular tablet | Mar 11 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | So is the iPad | Mar 11 15:17 |
| jake | yes, but iPad is Apple | Mar 11 15:17 |
| GoForbes28 | At least one of these can been worked with | Mar 11 15:17 |
| jake | and Xoom is Android | Mar 11 15:17 |
| bentkus | iPad is already full of freedom hating software so no biggy that they include mono | Mar 11 15:17 |
| jake | apparently Steve Jobs demoed a Mono app | Mar 11 15:18 |
| GoForbes28 | It's more likely an Android tablet will abandon mono than an Apple tablet will respect Freedom | Mar 11 15:18 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm just saying that the fact the iPad has been osteinally successful is evidence that the damage is done | Mar 11 15:18 |
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| bentkus | really? | Mar 11 15:18 |
| jake | GoForbes28: yea, you should start a campaign to petition Motorola to remove its Mono infection | Mar 11 15:18 |
| GoForbes28 | any change is for the better | Mar 11 15:18 |
| bentkus | jake: on viddeo? | Mar 11 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NoW #scumbags; the plot thickens. Hey they call themselves "news" they "must" be telling the truth right? lol http://tighturl.com/2zxm | Mar 11 15:19 | |
| GoForbes28 | BoycottMotorola? | Mar 11 15:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Buy Acer, that's the least tainted one right now | Mar 11 15:19 |
| jake | bentkus: yes, demoed on the iPad2 in his presentation | Mar 11 15:19 |
| jake | lemme find the link | Mar 11 15:19 |
| bentkus | mono must truelly be bad if even steb jobs touches it | Mar 11 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what was it they repeatedly claimed again? oh yes "one rotten apple" #bullshit | Mar 11 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM when asked about the situation in S.Arabia ignored the question and talked about what he wanted in the wider M.East #politics | Mar 11 15:20 | |
| jake | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031111-deicaza-gnome-ipad2.html | Mar 11 15:20 |
| tuxmania | They allow mono, but not flash? | Mar 11 15:20 |
| GoForbes28 | Nah, mono just links up perfectly to Jobs' lock-down ideals and Free software rejection | Mar 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | except that blow doesn't control .net/mono | Mar 11 15:21 |
| jake | Mono is picking up steam as a platform for mobile game development, and an Android version will soon be released to complement Mono for iPhone, which is a proprietary product from Novell, de Icaza says. Apple's Steve Jobs recently showcased an app built with Mono (Rome -- Virtual History) while demonstrating the new iPad, according to de Icaza. | Mar 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | so he's being kind of stupid now | Mar 11 15:21 |
| GoForbes28 | It shows that the Microsoft-Apple feud is a theatre act | Mar 11 15:21 |
| jake | sorry, that's a quote from the article | Mar 11 15:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Underneath, they want exactly the same thing | Mar 11 15:22 |
| tuxmania | mono is the slowest pile of manure i know of, advanced games will be impossible | Mar 11 15:22 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: indeed, sometimes it's revealed | Mar 11 15:22 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: As in this case | Mar 11 15:22 |
| GoForbes28 | Thanks goodness that QT and GTK programmed in C exists | Mar 11 15:23 |
| tuxmania | Apple loves OSS as long as it has a rape and pillage license attached like BSD style licenses. | Mar 11 15:23 |
| bentkus | in C? | Mar 11 15:23 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Mar 11 15:23 |
| MinceR | perhaps crApple has sw patents on .net/mono? | Mar 11 15:23 |
| bentkus | Qt is not even C++ | Mar 11 15:23 |
| GoForbes28 | XFCE is progammed in C | Mar 11 15:23 |
| bentkus | And nokia drops it like its hot, drops like its hot | Mar 11 15:23 |
| MinceR | Qt is programmed in C++ :> | Mar 11 15:23 |
| bentkus | no its not | Mar 11 15:23 |
| tuxmania | bentkus: well, not nokia but their bulvan from Microsoft. | Mar 11 15:24 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I said GTK in C, not QT AND GTK in C | Mar 11 15:24 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 11 15:24 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: XFCE is programmed entirely in C | Mar 11 15:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Runs contrary to mono, doesn't it? | Mar 11 15:24 |
| jake | so was GNOME | Mar 11 15:24 |
| jake | entirely in C | Mar 11 15:25 |
| jake | until Mono came along | Mar 11 15:25 |
| bentkus | mono is written in C | Mar 11 15:25 |
| tuxmania | Ive adopted LXDE instead of Gnome since the mono-fest started. | Mar 11 15:25 |
| bentkus | jake: and there are a shitload of apps in gnome using python and ruby | Mar 11 15:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if this is #Clinton's usual #hypocrisy the public will be the opposite of private sentiments http://tighturl.com/2zxn #Manning | Mar 11 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I don't expect special #Linux treatment, just build standard stuff so it doesn't impede linux, standards are good for ALL OS's inc #Windows | Mar 11 15:25 | |
| bentkus | i'm using the awesome window manager | Mar 11 15:25 |
| MinceR | that "shitload" isn't going to shield you from patent lawsuits | Mar 11 15:25 |
| bentkus | because gnome wasn't awesome enough | Mar 11 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | XFCE and KDE will likely remain mono for the future | Mar 11 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | LX | Mar 11 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | DE is XFCE with OpenBox | Mar 11 15:26 |
| bentkus | you mean mono free? | Mar 11 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Mar 11 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | sorry | Mar 11 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Set All Applications To Use Overlay Scrollbars In Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal http://bit.ly/h2ALLa | Mar 11 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @linuxquestions: Lessons learned by @nearyd - Analysis of the conflict among Canonical, GNOME, and KDE http://bit.ly/eWUCXt | Mar 11 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME 3 Live image 0.1.0 released - Geeko strikes back http://goo.gl/njc0U | Mar 11 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] MT @rms bank CEOs violated Sarbanes Oxley law requiring..adequate internal controls. President doesn't want to prosecute http://ur1.ca/3gwr9 | Mar 11 15:27 | |
| GoForbes28 | Isn't ironic that Mono is also a contagious disease? | Mar 11 15:27 |
| bentkus | but they have already C# bindings! | Mar 11 15:27 |
| GoForbes28 | How appropriate | Mar 11 15:27 |
| bentkus | How is it contagious? | Mar 11 15:28 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: Who has said bindings? | Mar 11 15:28 |
| GoForbes28 | bentkus: The disease or the software? | Mar 11 15:28 |
| jake | I think he means XFCE has Mono bindings | Mar 11 15:28 |
| bentkus | the software | Mar 11 15:28 |
| GoForbes28 | well, look how it spreads | Mar 11 15:28 |
| GoForbes28 | jake: Do we have a link for this? | Mar 11 15:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Like a developer statement or something? | Mar 11 15:29 |
| bentkus | it doesn't spread by design, it spreads by choice | Mar 11 15:30 |
| jake | I just assumed that's what bentkus was saying, I don't know if it is true or not | Mar 11 15:30 |
| MinceR | whose choice? | Mar 11 15:30 |
| bentkus | I said that kde has mono bindings | Mar 11 15:30 |
| jake | oh, KDE | Mar 11 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: On the relationship between !Canonical and !GNOME http://goo.gl/HSyeJ | Mar 11 15:30 | |
| GoForbes28 | It spreads by ignorance and sloppy practices, like a disease | Mar 11 15:30 |
| bentkus | MinceR: the people who take it and develop an app for it | Mar 11 15:30 |
| jake | sorry, misunderstood | Mar 11 15:30 |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah, but QT and Mono conflict with each other, no? | Mar 11 15:31 |
| jake | GoForbes28: no | Mar 11 15:31 |
| MinceR | bentkus: so you think that the people who control the desktop environment project itself don't have a say in what apps they endorse? | Mar 11 15:31 |
| bentkus | why should it conflict? | Mar 11 15:31 |
| GoForbes28 | QT more or less does what Mono can do, beter | Mar 11 15:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I meant conflict in a redundancy sense | Mar 11 15:31 |
| jake | GoForbes28: Qt is a widget toolkit, Mono is a VM | Mar 11 15:31 |
| jake | they do not conflict | Mar 11 15:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I remember reading that programming in QT allowed for similar opportunities that Mono supposedly has | Mar 11 15:32 |
| MinceR | Qt is not just a widget toolkit | Mar 11 15:32 |
| MinceR | it's also a crossplatform portability toolkit | Mar 11 15:32 |
| GoForbes28 | In regards to object-based programming | Mar 11 15:32 |
| bentkus | MinceR: I didn't say nothing about that, I said that developers choose the language they like most | Mar 11 15:32 |
| MinceR | including stuff to cover up weaknesses of certain C++ compilers | Mar 11 15:32 |
| bentkus | MinceR: the people in gnome will choose the best app for the job | Mar 11 15:33 |
| bentkus | if it is written in C#, they will take it | Mar 11 15:33 |
| MinceR | or so you say it's the best app for the job | Mar 11 15:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Too bad that "best app" is a deceptive term | Mar 11 15:33 |
| MinceR | and which job is it anyway? entrenching m$'s patents into gnu/linux to allow a lawsuit? | Mar 11 15:33 |
| bentkus | If you don't want to see mono apps in gnome, quite bitching and start contributing to the alternatives | Mar 11 15:33 |
| GoForbes28 | .net application tend to be slower and more bloated | Mar 11 15:33 |
| bentkus | quit* | Mar 11 15:33 |
| MinceR | i'm simply not using gnome | Mar 11 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: Thoughts on !GNOME http://goo.gl/NYA2u | Mar 11 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Please join us in supporting all of our Japanese members and colleagues today and in the difficult weeks ahead. #tsunami | Mar 11 15:34 | |
| GoForbes28 | Me neither | Mar 11 15:34 |
| bentkus | GoForbes28: compared to what? | Mar 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | bentkus: also, i'm not bitching | Mar 11 15:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I already had a preference before this mess anyways | Mar 11 15:34 |
| jake | GoForbes28: well, I suppose in a way. But it's not Qt that allows OO programming, it's the C++ language that does. | Mar 11 15:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Regular C++ applications or C applications? | Mar 11 15:34 |
| GoForbes28 | That was to bentkus | Mar 11 15:34 |
| bentkus | But they have no garbage collection | Mar 11 15:35 |
| bentkus | how can you compare them? | Mar 11 15:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Simple | Mar 11 15:35 |
| MinceR | C++ can use garbage collection | Mar 11 15:35 |
| MinceR | there is at least one actual gc library for it, in fact | Mar 11 15:35 |
| jake | Boehm GC right? | Mar 11 15:35 |
| GoForbes28 | I seem how much space it takes install said application and how well in performance | Mar 11 15:35 |
| MinceR | yes | Mar 11 15:35 |
| GoForbes28 | compared to actual objective functionality | Mar 11 15:36 |
| GoForbes28 | .NET has no benefits whatsoever | Mar 11 15:36 |
| jake | MinceR: doesn't Mono use Boehm too? | Mar 11 15:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Mar 11 15:36 |
| bentkus | no they dont | Mar 11 15:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Unless you want your apps to require a 50+mb framework and look similar to a webpage | Mar 11 15:37 |
| jake | what do you mean similar to a web page? | Mar 11 15:37 |
| bentkus | the facts that you suggested state that you don't like virtual machines | Mar 11 15:37 |
| bentkus | not that you don't like mono | Mar 11 15:37 |
| GoForbes28 | A lot of .net application I find tend to take the look-and-feel of web pages | Mar 11 15:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, Java VM is smaller | Mar 11 15:38 |
| GoForbes28 | and has better backward's compatiblity | Mar 11 15:38 |
| bentkus | :D | Mar 11 15:38 |
| jake | GoForbes28: actually, Mono is smaller than Java | Mar 11 15:38 |
| GoForbes28 | there is a place of VM-based langurages | Mar 11 15:38 |
| jake | a LOT smaller | Mar 11 15:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm talking about .net here | Mar 11 15:38 |
| bentkus | no, you are just talking | Mar 11 15:38 |
| MinceR | btw, Qt is written in C++, of course | Mar 11 15:38 |
| MinceR | i just checked | Mar 11 15:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh bacon? You spelled "kipper" wrong | Mar 11 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's Cindy Cohn talking about surveillance in the movies right now at #SXSW: "Big Brother on the Big Screen", Hilton Salon F/G | Mar 11 15:39 | |
| GoForbes28 | after all, isn't that the ideal implementation, straight from the original manufacturer itself? | Mar 11 15:39 |
| MinceR | bentkus: so stop bullshitting us | Mar 11 15:39 |
| bentkus | MinceR: no it's not | Mar 11 15:39 |
| MinceR | try looking at the source package | Mar 11 15:39 |
| GoForbes28 | On Windows, you are recommended to install 4 versions of .net framework | Mar 11 15:39 |
| jake | I guess you could say Qt isn't C++ in the same way that GObject isn't C | Mar 11 15:39 |
| jake | in that they extend the languages they are built upon | Mar 11 15:40 |
| GoForbes28 | As I said, VM-based languages have a place | Mar 11 15:40 |
| GoForbes28 | They don't take the place of native langurages | Mar 11 15:40 |
| bentkus | does gojebct need a special precompiler? | Mar 11 15:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL :D | Mar 11 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Wikipedia Search from Command Line http://tinyurl.com/4rr8bo7 #blog | Mar 11 15:40 | |
| jake | bentkus: no | Mar 11 15:40 |
| jake | you mean moc for Qt? | Mar 11 15:41 |
| bentkus | indeed | Mar 11 15:41 |
| jake | ok, but that is just a technical detail | Mar 11 15:42 |
| MinceR | guess what moc is written in :> | Mar 11 15:42 |
| jake | so it's an extension of C++, but still :) | Mar 11 15:42 |
| bentkus | MinceR: mono is written in C | Mar 11 15:42 |
| bentkus | so according to your logic that would mean? | Mar 11 15:42 |
| MinceR | bentkus: you seriously can't recognize C++ code if it's preprocessed via moc or are you just trolling me? | Mar 11 15:43 |
| MinceR | for the record, i have time for neither | Mar 11 15:43 |
| jake | hmmm, so in a way Qt is kinda like Vala... the preprocessor generates C++ for Qt and C for Vala | Mar 11 15:44 |
| GoForbes28 | andrius bentkus? | Mar 11 15:44 |
| jake | except the syntax for Qt is a lot closer to C++ than vala is to C | Mar 11 15:44 |
| bentkus | yes sherlock? | Mar 11 15:45 |
| jake | I can sort of see your point I guess, but it's a minor argument imho | Mar 11 15:45 |
| GoForbes28 | How often do you come here? | Mar 11 15:45 |
| bentkus | i have been idling for 4 months now | Mar 11 15:45 |
| GoForbes28 | I see | Mar 11 15:45 |
| GoForbes28 | No need to get riled | Mar 11 15:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @marjoleink: "Second quake strikes Japan": http://is.gd/MSyGQi <http://is.gd/MSyGQi> | Mar 11 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 2.6.32.33 #longterm review http://bit.ly/hDyIP9 #2632 "There are 17 patches in this series [...]" | Mar 11 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @marjoleink: "Second strong quake shakes Japan" http://is.gd/3aa7ZJ <- this says it IS an aftershock - reports differ... | Mar 11 15:47 | |
| GoForbes28 | Alright, that was fun | Mar 11 15:48 |
| jake | well, I'm off | Mar 11 15:48 |
| jake | later folks | Mar 11 15:48 |
| GoForbes28 | See you later | Mar 11 15:48 |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Have you seen the news regarding the ACTA successor? | Mar 11 15:49 |
| MinceR | nope | Mar 11 15:49 |
| MinceR | i'm interested | Mar 11 15:49 |
| bentkus | whats acta? | Mar 11 15:50 |
| GoForbes28 | Anti-counterfeiting trade agreement | Mar 11 15:50 |
| GoForbes28 | AKA the US corps pushing their copyright, patent, and trademark agenda to the world | Mar 11 15:50 |
| MinceR | discussed by (both elected and non-elected) in as much secret from the public as they could manage | Mar 11 15:51 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | Mar 11 15:51 |
| GoForbes28 | we only knew about it from leaks | Mar 11 15:51 |
| MinceR | s/\)/) politicians/ | Mar 11 15:51 |
| GoForbes28 | one of the earliest Wikileaks benefits to the world | Mar 11 15:51 |
| GoForbes28 | so TPP or acta II just tries to implement what the U.S. failed to push last time | Mar 11 15:52 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5686/125/ | Mar 11 15:52 |
| GoForbes28 | In other words, the U.S. is insane | Mar 11 15:52 |
| MinceR | and i suppose the EU leaders are still all very willing to discuss it in secret | Mar 11 15:52 |
| MinceR | even though it serves the interests of no citizen in the EU | Mar 11 15:53 |
| GoForbes28 | No world citizen for that matter | Mar 11 15:53 |
| MinceR | well, it does serve the interests of the major owners of a few usian megacorps | Mar 11 15:53 |
| GoForbes28 | Unless you count corporations as people like the U.S. gov't does | Mar 11 15:53 |
| GoForbes28 | and drug corps | Mar 11 15:53 |
| GoForbes28 | and media corps | Mar 11 15:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | and conglomerates | Mar 11 15:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So Holland is the most densley populated Euro country and by some margin http://bit.ly/fzKUcb I never knew that | Mar 11 15:54 | |
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| bentkus | poor people in holland | Mar 11 15:54 |
| bentkus | they even started shuffling earth on the sea to get some land | Mar 11 15:54 |
| bentkus | ;D | Mar 11 15:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | Hi DaemonFC | Mar 11 15:54 |
| bentkus | the world is a bad place | Mar 11 15:55 |
| bentkus | lets make it even worse | Mar 11 15:55 |
| GoForbes28 | We just had a great chat regarding Mono, .net, whether they use C, C++, etc, | Mar 11 15:55 |
| GoForbes28 | well hey, the did that to the copyright law in Canada | Mar 11 15:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[point/@point] Somos el enemigo !wl #libertad - http://alturl.com/f5c3r | Mar 11 15:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | Corporations are short-term, benefit me now entities | Mar 11 15:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Living in the moment | Mar 11 15:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Living on the line, and ignoring any crossing of said line | Mar 11 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat seems to do alright | Mar 11 15:57 |
| GoForbes28 | That may not last | Mar 11 15:57 |
| MinceR | they have a dark past though | Mar 11 15:57 |
| MinceR | pushing for sw patents in the EU | Mar 11 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wisconsin’s anti-worker law: An historic attack on the working class http://is.gd/6KBVrl #unionrights #democracy | Mar 11 15:57 | |
| GoForbes28 | One Microsoft entryism, BOOM | Mar 11 15:57 |
| MinceR | i guess they realized it wouldn't benefit them | Mar 11 15:57 |
| GoForbes28 | BTW all, I have created a Techright Wiki page to post twitter and other links for Roy to examine when he comes back | Mar 11 15:58 |
| GoForbes28 | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interesting_Tweets_During_Absenteeism | Mar 11 15:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 11 15:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] !heybuddy 0.2.1 Schenectady is probably carnivore crap https://launchpad.net/heybuddy/0.2/0.2.1 | Mar 11 15:59 | |
| GoForbes28 | anybody got something to contribute? | Mar 11 16:03 |
| GoForbes28 | *have something | Mar 11 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Venezuela, Cuba, Angola set up oil Joint Venture. http://is.gd/wM8mLc !Cubanews | Mar 11 16:05 | |
| GoForbes28 | well, if you do, just tell, or you can add it to the wiki page | Mar 11 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jonobacon: Sometimes I just really despise people - http://is.gd/qKkFZb | Mar 11 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @jonobacon: Sometimes I just really despise people - http://is.gd/qKkFZb < that is disgusting | Mar 11 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, I used to think #SnoopDogg was cool, having to revise that assessment now http://tighturl.com/2zxq #Symantec #Hacking #clueless | Mar 11 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Neary: Lessons learned http://lwn.net/Articles/433089/rss | Mar 11 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fuduntu 14.9 Stable Released, Replaces Bottom Gnome Panel With AWN http://bit.ly/h9ypAJ | Mar 11 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Mint irc channels down? | Mar 11 16:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Insane – Yep, That’s Me! - http://bit.ly/ib61O1 #amwriting | Mar 11 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Calling all browser and #linux geeks! @jzb invites you to test browser speed on Linux with this Weekend Project: http://bit.ly/g7bEMa | Mar 11 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP plagued by a DNS related issue with HP Virtual Connect: http://bit.ly/h5Qc3B | Mar 11 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US judge: Twitter must your info in Wikileaks secret espionage probe http://is.gd/Qsqcis !wl | Mar 11 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this is an example of just how consumer friendly #DRM is http://tighturl.com/2zxs note how many devices state DRM as a "feature" #FuckEA | Mar 11 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya ,French civil service must be cursing Sarkozy after he recognised opposition. French have crossed them from diplomatic book #foolish | Mar 11 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] @lxoliva Not so hyperbolic. To paraphrase #Moglen, ppl making freedom on the street depend on code more than ever—let's make sure it's !fs. | Mar 11 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Federal judge denies bid of three linked to Wikileaks to keep Twitter information secret http://is.gd/2pSzQy !wl | Mar 11 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Download #DraftSight - Free AutoCAD-Compatible 2D CAD Software For !Linux http://goo.gl/tAeAU | Mar 11 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple #iOS | Mar 11 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Wisconsin and workers rights on Al Jazeera again. | Mar 11 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple apparently don't care #iOS | Mar 11 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] DAMN reddit is slow today. | Mar 11 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb: 40% of #iTunes in-app buys are fraud http://tighturl.com/2zxt #Apple apparently don't care #iOS | Mar 11 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @encyclomundi: #twitter out to destroy creativity and user control of data...1st by crushing independent apps http://t.co/Jch8AmT | Mar 11 16:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] State Department spokesperson P.J. Crowley decries Bradley Manning's treatment as "counterproductive," "stupid" http://is.gd/Ifu8Pd | Mar 11 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another !LO is edited.... | Mar 11 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Novell Acquisition Delayed by DoJ Patent Investigation - Government IT - News & Reviews - eWeek.com http://ping.fm/KHMOZ | Mar 11 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ashcrow: #Japan warns of small radiation leak from plant: http://outl.ws/euwmWp -- US Air Force flies in coolant | Mar 11 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ten ways Windows fails but !Linux does not | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK http://ping.fm/009GE | Mar 11 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @spaz "Now Friends With Charlie Sheen, Twitter Tells Its Nerdy Old Pals to Drop Dead" hah! http://j.mp/gjIXCP | Mar 11 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Twitter accts of @ioerror @birgittaj @XS4ALL @wikileaks, unspecified associated others compromised by US DOJ: http://is.gd/LqRpgb !wikileaks | Mar 11 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Twitter accts of @ioerror @birgittaj @rop_g @wikileaks & unspecified associated others compromised by US DOJ: http://is.gd/LqRpgb !wikileaks | Mar 11 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Judgement in US v. WikiLeaks et al (pdf) http://is.gd/8w3Chf !wl | Mar 11 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Legalese re DOJ's ability to access !wikileaks & Bradley Manning supporters' #Twitter accts: http://ur1.ca/3gxe6 DMs NOT considered private! | Mar 11 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhhhh! Another Flens! | Mar 11 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange case in turmoil as accuser linked to police | SMH http://is.gd/6Tw4Q5 !wl | Mar 11 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @opensourcegeek: NASA to host open source conference http://www.nasa.gov/open/source/ | Mar 11 17:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Twitter tells me @springsteen is "similar to me". I WISH... Oo | Mar 11 17:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Download DraftSight - Free AutoCAD-Compatible 2D CAD Software For Linux http://bit.ly/g17UHQ | Mar 11 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal & 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot Countdown Banners http://bit.ly/fWsi40 | Mar 11 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] State Dept Official's comments about WikiLeaks suspect touch off furor http://is.gd/mzN3f4 !wl | Mar 11 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rogerdv Did you already preordered your copy of Oil rush game for !linux? Dont complain later about the lack of games | Mar 11 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Arab revolutions to spread to the US? A United States 'Day of Rage' is brewing http://alturl.com/prr8z !wl | Mar 11 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF will be at ACLU's @dotRights #partylikeits1986 80s bash on Sunday night -- hope to see you there! http://on.fb.me/h7hCJ4 #SXSW | Mar 11 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ellsberg: This shameful abuse of Bradley Manning http://is.gd/7ezLNw !wl | Mar 11 17:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Weekend Project: Benchmark Your Browsers on !Linux /by @linuxfoundation http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's gonna end badly, with Chromium running away with the prize @linuxfoundation re: http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Weekend Project: Benchmark Your Browsers on !Linux /by @linuxfoundation http://ping.fm/6fEC8 | Mar 11 17:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The leaked US Counterintelligence report (Mar 2008) wherein WikiLeaks was identified as a threat http://j.mp/dK3btC (PDF) !wl | Mar 11 17:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Upstart Development Blog: Override files in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/Flqms | Mar 11 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thoughts On #GPL Compliance of !RedHat's !Linux Distribution /by @bkuhn http://ping.fm/axImB | Mar 11 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Reporters Without Borders awards 2011 Netizen Prize to Tunisian bloggers at at nawaat.org! Congrats @ifikra! https://eff.org/r.1z9 | Mar 11 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That video footage from the Japan quakes is scary.... Oo | Mar 11 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Let me know if you find one! :D #SNES #emulator #64bit | Mar 11 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh and just think of how much worse it'd be if japan didn't literally have the best earthquake/tsunami protection stuff on the planet | Mar 11 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. They raided Sheen? ROFL! :D | Mar 11 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Yeah, I know. Watched lots of docus on that even back in the 90s. Damn resilent country... Always has been. | Mar 11 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh yeah, you've definitely gotta give them that | Mar 11 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Clegg had realised that nobody talks about triumphs of Lib/Lab pact then he may have thought present alliance not worth destroying party | Mar 11 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Hylke Bons: The truth about !GNOME design http://goo.gl/iIfE0 | Mar 11 18:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rarely, I find what seems 2 B an interesting article, but the writer's English isn't gd enough 2 understand & then I feel guilty 4 gving up | Mar 11 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jolicloud are getting an amazing amount of tech news coverage today | Mar 11 18:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Court rules against privacy in battle over Twitter records. EFF and ACLU will appeal https://eff.org/r.4zA | Mar 11 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blog: Fuduntu 14.9 Stable Released and definitely aimed squarely at the web apps market looking at the changes http://ping.fm/XyZ5A | Mar 11 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @eff Court rules against privacy in battle over Twitter records. EFF and ACLU will appeal https://eff.org/r.4zA | Mar 11 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Waiting for film about the bay of pigs to start, I expect it will be Hollywood history accurate. Still, should be interesting. | Mar 11 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @eff: Court rules against privacy in battle over Twitter records. EFF and ACLU will appeal https://eff.org/r.4zA | Mar 11 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's a bad decision | Mar 11 18:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Someone's writing a series On the relationship between Canonical and GNOME, when's the movie? :) http://ping.fm/CN556 | Mar 11 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Was that too flippant? | Mar 11 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple's Agency model may violate anti-cartel laws in Europe - O'Reilly Radar http://ping.fm/GpGvA | Mar 11 18:44 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 11 18:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Loading https://groups.google.com/forum/ in !KDE #Konqueror shows a nice blank page with "This browser is not supported". Thanks #google ¬¬ | Mar 11 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kuhn: Thoughts On GPL Compliance of Red Hat's Linux Distribution http://lwn.net/Articles/433107/rss | Mar 11 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just occurred to me how close "warship" is to "worship" | Mar 11 18:52 | |
| oiaohm | http://wiki.x.org/wiki/SummerOfCodeIdeas Interesting. Remote wayland on the summer of code. | Mar 11 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Ourbricks.com 3D model sharing site launches with CC BY default license http://katalabs.com/blog/2011/03/10/ourbricks-social-3d-content/ | Mar 11 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Today we are all Japanese. Give $10 to help. Text REDCROSS to 90999, or click http://ow.ly/4ctzx via @notveryalice Pls RT! | Mar 11 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @revistaespiritolivre: Palestra Gratuita na Unicamp - 14/03 - Google Summer of Code 2011: http://va.mu/Al2 /cc @islene | Mar 11 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Canadians! Quake/tsunami relief number to donate--text REDCROSS to 30333. #TodayWeAreAllJapanese !Canada | Mar 11 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Today we are all Japanese. Give $10 to help. Text REDCROSS to 90999, or click http://ow.ly/4ctzx via @notveryalice Pls RT! | Mar 11 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This film has twice said that the bay of pigs invasion failed because landing site was compromised I know its a film but have had enough. | Mar 11 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @GeorgeTakei Canadians! Quake/tsunami relief number to donate--text REDCROSS to 30333. #TodayWeAreAllJapanese #Canada | Mar 11 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Whaz that? :) | Mar 11 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Audio release: Linux Outlaws 195 - That's a Very Nice Everything You Have There > http://outl.ws/fKqEoD #linuxoutlaws | Mar 11 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rubenquidam: RT @iurie I'm not a computer expert, so I'll use a 100% free OS like Trisquel so I am always led to freedom, not elsewhere. | Mar 11 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh some fairly unstellar code that I wrote in ruby and need to port to vala. It's a daemon with a web interface. | Mar 11 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !operafans @opera is a really great browser that's seriously weakened on the desktop by the dearth of widgets. This really has to improve | Mar 11 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Nice. Can't wait! :) | Mar 11 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Gotta get up early tomorrow and I'm dead... | Mar 11 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Bed. Can't.... stay awake.... | Mar 11 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is !Ubuntu going with Ask.com now or have I been browser jacked? | Mar 11 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jayrosen_nyu: NPR Sting's "Racist Tea Party" Comment Taken Out of Context http://jr.ly/beye Big time deception. Paraphrasing ppl he knew | Mar 11 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Have you been drinking?" "Not since I got out of the car" #fg | Mar 11 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Goodnight | Mar 11 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Republican budget cuts target tsunami warning center http://ur1.ca/3h01d | Mar 11 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @qthrul #BigBroBigScreen is setting the bar high for best panel mix -- drastic swings in opinion and positions -- and humor. #SWSW | Mar 11 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Some early WikiLeaks (2006/7) strategy clippings http://alturl.com/zh5xb !wl | Mar 11 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm I read it in 'parenting' books... It goes hand in hand with the insane advice to "let babies cry." Some still believe these jerks. | Mar 11 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] 2 new free software jobs posted today at http://fsf.org/jobs. Great to see someone hiring for GIMP and Inkscape. !fsf !gnu !lp | Mar 11 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Twitter need to have a more standardised experience, then say it's already happening organically. Sounds like an excuse to avoid adblocking | Mar 11 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either it's already happening, so you don't need to do anything, or it's not and you do (or feel you have to) #smellsfishy #disingenuous | Mar 11 20:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @snarf: Please Donate to Gnash: is.gd/AcR8mG and save Gnash! !trisquel !parabola !dragora !gnull !fsfla | Mar 11 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ZX81: Small black box of computing desire http://is.gd/52sQPV "We did extraordinary things .. chess in 1K" - @CharlesCecil | Mar 11 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maloki @psquid where's the app that makes the "boom headshot" sound when reporting spammers? | Mar 11 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] or bits. :D | Mar 11 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid HBGary planned to "BLOW THE BALLS OFF OF NMAP"! http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2011/q1/767 #hilarity | Mar 11 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ashcrow RT @nmap Thanks for the support, everyone! Nmap's balls are now safe from HBGary: http://bit.ly/nmapsafe | Mar 11 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] * schestowitz CW | Mar 11 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Army private 'pressured to implicate Assange' | Mar 11 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Some early WikiLeaks (2006/7) strategy clippings http://wikileaks.ch.nyud.net/wiki/WikiLeaks:Strategy http://bit.ly/hETnnZ | Mar 11 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Army private 'pressured to implicate Assange' http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/14/3137816.htm http://bit.ly/ijvLTz | Mar 11 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @toshia40tosh: Just joined !spamreport http://beingpregnantsigns.com/sitemap?page=7 << this is hilarious spammer joins spamreport group | Mar 11 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Frank Sinatra was not the old twit I thought he was when I was too young to know anything. | Mar 11 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 1955 film about heroin and gambling and what a surprise it did not all end well. | Mar 11 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm reminded of Monty Python's "how not to be seen" sketch "don't stand up" aka "don't spam the guys who seek you out & delete your account" | Mar 11 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] that dumbass made my night, my sides are splitting from laughing | Mar 11 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if he realises he's suddenly popular or why before his account goes POOF! | Mar 11 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Subpoenas in SCEA v. Hotz Issue, Subject to Motions to Quash - http://bit.ly/f33yK5 #sony #ps3 #dmca #tpm #drm #linux #legal | Mar 11 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @maymaym DOJ's ability to access !wikileaks & Manning supporters' #Twitter accts: http://ur1.ca/3gxe6 DMs NOT considered private! | Mar 11 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] http://ur1.ca/3h0nv ap 1 http://ur1.ca/3h0o1 1.¶2 “Distributing the Software ... is a material breach of the agreement” => termination | Mar 11 21:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am puzzled as to why some people say "I pray for you". It's like, "I'll breath for you". Prayers never stopped the quake or tsunami! #fb | Mar 11 21:49 | |
| -->enthymeme (~kraken@cpe-76-171-245-75.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #techrights | Mar 11 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @neilhimself The publics rights 2 culture R being eroded. Copyright is becoming detrimental 2 culture & creators. | Mar 11 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Beware of experts" !q - Mike Rowe (Dirty Jobs) https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mike+rowe+beware+of+experts | Mar 11 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor - Chapters 1-4: http://weblit.ca/?q=node/9 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/10 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/11 http://weblit.ca/?q=node/12 | Mar 11 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor is the first of a fantasy Trilogy written by yours truly. Bellator has lost his memory. He's young, probably 14 years old | Mar 11 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] And obviously a trained killer. How did he get that way? Who wants to kill the Senator? Who's the girl that they rescued from bandits? | Mar 11 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Why is the goddess and her priestesses so interested in a trained killer? Who is the Mother of Swords? Book to be published in April. | Mar 11 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter you need a redentable promo link | Mar 11 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. judge backs request for Assange friends' records | Reuters http://is.gd/kjZXqZ !wl | Mar 11 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: U.S. judge backs request for Assange friends' records | Reuters http://is.gd/kjZXqZ http://bit.ly/hNilKz | Mar 11 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the #GPS tracker inside a #rare white #lion stopped working. It leaked #toxic battery fluid?! replacing it is an even bigger #risk? #WTF | Mar 11 23:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @shiny Techdirt: US Proposals For Secret TPP 'Son Of ACTA' Treaty Leaked; Chock Full Of Awful Ideas - http://ur1.ca/3h0t6 #tppa !acta | Mar 11 23:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Japan market forecasters think quake good for business in mid term #wherethereismuckthereisbrass | Mar 11 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jospoortvliet awesome news: !openSUSE 11.4 breached 100.000 downloads in less than 24 hours! | Mar 11 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] well, give the lion a shot of #anbiotics and he will be ok? | Mar 11 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] let's not talk about the elephant #GPS collar. is this what they call animal preservation these days? #insane | Mar 11 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #anbiotics = #antibiotics ... damn keyboard | Mar 11 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] hate the preservers explanation about the GPS tracker even more: 'it provides us with valuable information'. WTF, we call that #RESEARCH! | Mar 11 23:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Spambot ho ⇒ shirely49shi | Mar 11 23:47 | |
| -->hemimaniac (~Hemi@dsle83.ody.ca) has joined #techrights | Mar 11 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] thinking of a distributed and #social enabled (ostatus) ticket tracker (bugs, tasks, etc) | Mar 11 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I do wonder if a spammer seeing an @ reply with @support or !spamreport in it triggers the "time to register a new account" gene | Mar 11 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have to get some kip goodnight Identi.ca friends you know who you are. | Mar 11 23:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Book of Honor – Urbema - http://bit.ly/hRnAqA #amwriting | Mar 11 23:59 | |
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