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| schestowitz | de Icaza made fun of getoo | Apr 11 00:03 |
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| schestowitz | *gentoo | Apr 11 00:03 |
| schestowitz | What he cannot infect needs to be destroyed differently, e.g. through credibility assaults | Apr 11 00:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now! http://ur1.ca/3tpgi | Apr 11 00:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta RC1 Available Now! .::. Size~: 4.82 KB | Apr 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | oh, if he gets his way, he'll get around to making fun of ubuntu and *suse too | Apr 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | (once the others are gone) | Apr 11 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | I am listening to some rather nice open music right now :) | Apr 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | open music? | Apr 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | free? | Apr 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | modifiable? | Apr 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gn | Apr 11 00:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fis comment (better than the rant) "Your own article debunks itself on the moral argument." http://ur1.ca/3tpgq | Apr 11 00:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why does #Gpodder need a separate dialog for finished and failed downloads? | Apr 11 00:09 | |
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| spaetz | good night | Apr 11 00:14 |
| MinceR | o/ | Apr 11 00:14 |
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| DaemonFC | free as in free to steal? | Apr 11 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | end up with your stuff on a Verizon commercial and don't get paid? | Apr 11 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | no thanks | Apr 11 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: free as in free to share I guess yeah | Apr 11 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 15 day backlog cleared: hundreds of new cables released: http://alturl.com/jrem6 | Apr 11 00:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, I think people should consider those licenses that say take it and use it however you want | Apr 11 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | you end up with the same problems the BSD license causes | Apr 11 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | your work is stolen and ends up floating around in Windows or OS X | Apr 11 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: hmm? | Apr 11 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | uh that's differnet for music | Apr 11 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | open music is meant to be played on loads of differnet things | Apr 11 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | not really, Verizon stealing your art and using it in a television ad is just as slimy | Apr 11 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | hmm that's an interesting point | Apr 11 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | if they think the open music is good enough, they could use it to make money | Apr 11 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | however that's the same thing for GPL free softare | Apr 11 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | software | Apr 11 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | with music and art, I think we could consider a no commercial use license free | Apr 11 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | just because it closes the door on that kind of abuse | Apr 11 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | well there is software like that for Windows, free as in price, closed source, but free for personal use, not commerical | Apr 11 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: record companies are nasty it seems a lot of them | Apr 11 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah open music :) | Apr 11 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: in fact really recorad companies are an old thing | Apr 11 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | times change | Apr 11 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | we have the Internet now | Apr 11 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | and music should be made for fun not money really | Apr 11 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | if people make money on the side, whilst making music for fun, that's fine | Apr 11 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | ,but music should be an art a project, not a product | Apr 11 00:38 |
| MinceR | and some of the best music is made that way | Apr 11 00:41 |
| MinceR | already | Apr 11 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: indeed | Apr 11 00:41 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Kjetiln - Spy vs Spy remix | Apr 11 00:42 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: such as what I was listening to :) http://identi.ca/notice/70718828 | Apr 11 00:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nunatak y nullmeridian (nunatak)'s status on Saturday, 09-Apr-11 10:04:12 UTC - Identi.ca: !Listening Architecture in Helsinki - Moment Bends is.gd/FxTxf5 #music #streaming #3voor12 #luisterpaal | Apr 11 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | well I assume it's open anyway | Apr 11 00:43 |
| MinceR | well, i don't know if this is open, but it's gratis and redistributable | Apr 11 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which? | Apr 11 00:45 |
| MinceR | the one i'm listening to | Apr 11 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | and I am not sure if the one I was listening to is open or whatever | Apr 11 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but sure it's on the web to play for free :) | Apr 11 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | on the website | Apr 11 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah I guess it's free open music, non propritary :) | Apr 11 00:46 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 11 00:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] I just love having to restart the server, all because the default PHP settings are, well, they don't play well with Word Press. #PHP | Apr 11 01:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Haaretz WikiLeaks exclusive / 'We're doomed if Hamas takes power' http://t.co/THPU4T2 | Apr 11 01:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pare a Tortura Wikileaks http://alturl.com/gcv44 | Apr 11 01:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @GregMitch: Assange at #9 in Time's "most iinfluential" poll, as Manning jumps all the way up to #29. http://ti.me/e9fM4W | Apr 11 01:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The 2011 TIME 100 Poll Results - The 2011 TIME 100 Poll - TIME .::. Size~: 47.4 KB | Apr 11 01:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 60 Minutes Interviews Julian Assange (now on youtube) http://alturl.com/h2e3o | Apr 11 01:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Charlie Rose interviewing LKY in March 2011 - http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11573 #sgelection | Apr 11 01:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Anyone have a 1600 ohm resistor on hand? | Apr 11 02:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] er, 1500 I guess | Apr 11 02:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] "If we're talking about [threatening] small publishers to stop them from publishing, the US has lost its way" http://ur1.ca/3tr16 !Wikileaks | Apr 11 02:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @mdomsch Got Google Cloud Print with printer on a Linux "server" to work. http://bit.ly/hHQCQT | Apr 11 02:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Listening to prof buyya streaming from melbourne delivering keynote at cloud event. | Apr 11 02:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @dwa "Learn !Python the Hard Way" Zed A. Shaw http://learnpythonthehardway.org/index #programming #ebook | Apr 11 02:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] pity that the Aneka (from http://www.manjrasoft.com/) is built on .net. FAIL! they claim using mono - PATENT minefield! | Apr 11 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that Aneka is NOT using deltacloud and doing their own things with .net. FAIL. | Apr 11 03:12 | |
| Ender2070 | nice python book | Apr 11 03:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity - Aneka looks very interesting, but needs M$ before it can run. Disappointed. | Apr 11 03:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] always wondered how to embed cover art into an audio file, cheers @fabsh !lo 200 | Apr 11 03:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070, Is that a Python in your pants are are you just happy to see me? | Apr 11 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 03:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Preparing for Day One of #ELC (Embedded Linux Conference) tomorrow! | Apr 11 03:54 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmozillahelper/+bug/757052 | Apr 11 04:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug #757052 in kmozillahelper (Ubuntu): “Right click / Save Image As broken in the Firefox KDE support package” .::. Size~: 33.37 KB | Apr 11 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | Jono told me to file a bug, let's see how long it stays open | Apr 11 04:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jpope !CyanogenMod 7.0 Released! http://dlvr.it/N4rqh | Apr 11 05:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?44523-Ubuntu-Expels-One-Of-Its-Developers&p=194620#post194620 | Apr 11 05:14 |
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| DaemonFC | +1 | Apr 11 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://pastebin.com/DABLby5a | Apr 11 05:17 |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 11 05:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] purrrrfect nap | Apr 11 05:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In #baseball, the #BlueJays 1, LA #Angels 3; LA #Dodgers 2, SD #Padres 7. #LABaseball | Apr 11 05:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm trying to build a 2.6.39 kernel again | Apr 11 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | If the compiler doesn't choke | Apr 11 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 06:29 |
| *DaemonFC would really like to just build 2.6.39 kernels vs. managing a few dozen patches and backporting 2.6.39 drm into a 2.6.38 kernel | Apr 11 06:30 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 06:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Twiki is horrible to install on #CentOS... but hey, it worked! | Apr 11 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone still uses CentOS | Apr 11 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think the best thing CentOS 5 users can do is point Yum at Scientific Linux 6 | Apr 11 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | there isn't much transparency in CentOS, they still won't say why there is no CentOS 6 | Apr 11 06:37 |
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| something seems to be wrong with comments at techrights | Apr 11 06:52 | |
| I lost about two hours worth of writing | Apr 11 06:53 | |
| *schestowitz checks | Apr 11 06:53 | |
| schestowitz | maybe in queue | Apr 11 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Got it | Apr 11 06:54 |
| I have a second write up in my clipboard, thanks | Apr 11 06:54 | |
| I hate it when comments vanish | Apr 11 06:54 | |
| schestowitz | Posted 3 comments | Apr 11 06:54 |
| I should have been more patient, thanks/ | Apr 11 06:55 | |
| schestowitz | 700 comments in spam queue, it's there for a reason | Apr 11 06:55 |
| wow | Apr 11 06:55 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I used to allow near anything to be posted unless it was actually spam or only meant to be insulting or vulgar | Apr 11 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | but yes, a lot of people tend to come out of the woodwork when you grind an ax about Windows | Apr 11 06:56 |
| saulgood's oversimplification of PJ's opinion irritated me. it seems like a rehash of Florian's FUD. | Apr 11 06:57 | |
| DaemonFC | though mine were mainly against DRM and I can't imagine any real person defending that | Apr 11 06:57 |
| DRM defenders are as common as astroturf is shameless | Apr 11 06:57 | |
| DaemonFC | it kind of amuses me that Windows Media Center tries to DRM an analog cable signal that isn't even scrambled | Apr 11 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | but you open up the same thing in another media center and you can record it just fine | Apr 11 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | twitter, Anyone who defends DRM is either profiting off of it somehow | Apr 11 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | or really that much of a moron | Apr 11 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 06:59 |
| some people are actually mislead by it all, others are repulsed by the vileness of the astroturfers and recoil to a "normal life" of quiet slavery | Apr 11 06:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple AirTunes private key extracted http://ur1.ca/3tror | Apr 11 06:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | I've never recorded a television show to redistribute | Apr 11 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | all DRM means to me is I can't watch it on my choice of device | Apr 11 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it drives my CPU usage off the chart | Apr 11 07:00 |
| the more you chase a "normal life" the further it recedes | Apr 11 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | there's plenty of good media center software for Linux | Apr 11 07:00 |
| when you don't care about your rights, you lose them | Apr 11 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | so I just use it and be happy | Apr 11 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | it was that that really made the decision for me to get rid of Windows in the end | Apr 11 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | if it's going to openly defy me like that, I don't want it | Apr 11 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | although I still do use my Microsoft branded media center stuff | Apr 11 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | they work quite well in Linux | Apr 11 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 07:02 |
| you don't want the sneakier betrayals either, they make it easier for future offenses that are more blatant | Apr 11 07:02 | |
| your rights are not separable, an attack on one part is an attack on all | Apr 11 07:02 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I asked that friend of mine (who has always used Windows) to try out KDE 4.6 and GNOME 3 side by side | Apr 11 07:03 |
| that should be interesting | Apr 11 07:03 | |
| DaemonFC | it was all of about an hour before he asked me how to get it back to KDE | Apr 11 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 might shape up, but a lot of the omissions feel intentional | Apr 11 07:04 |
| the Gnome 3 demo looked promising | Apr 11 07:04 | |
| but Gnome's over simplification has always irked me | Apr 11 07:04 | |
| DaemonFC | and having to hack on settings in configuration editors like gconf or dconf editor is ridiculous when all you want to do is change your theme | Apr 11 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:04 |
| I don't care much for themes | Apr 11 07:04 | |
| DaemonFC | meh, neither do I but the default theme in GNOME 3 is kind of hard on the eyes | Apr 11 07:05 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.wearechange.org/?p=7433 | Apr 11 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | and eats a lot of screen space | Apr 11 07:05 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: reply to you stuck in filter too: http://techrights.org/2011/04/06/benjamin-henrion-on-google-nortel/#comment-114448 | Apr 11 07:05 |
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| DaemonFC | it's obvious GNOME 3 is intended for netbooks and tablets and touchscreens | Apr 11 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | and not for the real PCs that real people really use every day :) | Apr 11 07:06 |
| it's more basic stuff like tree views, split screens, inadequate pagers, window blinding etc that bugs me about gnome | Apr 11 07:06 | |
| going to check that reply, thanks. | Apr 11 07:06 | |
| DaemonFC | I really like KDE's approach, two different interfaces, use whichever one works well for you on your device | Apr 11 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME seems to want to reduce it to one interface with the lowest common denominator guiding every decision they make | Apr 11 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | some of it is interesting but most of it is just frustrating | Apr 11 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | I was kind of impressed with it at first just because it was new to me, but after using it a while I couldn't take it anymore :) | Apr 11 07:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] $95 Android (ships 2.2, can be upgraded to 3.0) tablet from some Chinese OEM I've never heard of http://ur1.ca/3trpm !Linux | Apr 11 07:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | I can see why Canonical forked GNOME but I don't see why they didn't just use something that is complete, stable, and works, like KDE | Apr 11 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:09 |
| MinceR | yes, it used to be stable, back in 3.x :> | Apr 11 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4.6 is stable | Apr 11 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | so was 4.5 and 4.4 | Apr 11 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, the last one that gave me a lot of problems was 4.2 I think | Apr 11 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | you can tell Microsoft has infiltrated GNOME, first it was Mono | Apr 11 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | and now GNOME 3 | Apr 11 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Apr 11 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR wants Banshee ported to the GNOME 3 so he can be 1337 | Apr 11 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | so what do you use MinceR? | Apr 11 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | Doubt it's GNOME 3 | Apr 11 07:14 |
| MinceR | i'm still on kde4 | Apr 11 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | you don't like KDE 4 | Apr 11 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Apr 11 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | ok then :D | Apr 11 07:15 |
| What in gnome 3 is specifically Microsoft? | Apr 11 07:15 | |
| DaemonFC | a joke, the bad interface | Apr 11 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | ? | Apr 11 07:15 |
| Ender2070 | how so | Apr 11 07:15 |
| MinceR | bad interfaces are not unique to m$ | Apr 11 07:15 |
| MinceR | crApple does them too :> | Apr 11 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but GNOME 3 is worse than either of them | Apr 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | in fact, winblows 3.1 could do something OSuX still can't do properly | Apr 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | maximize windows | Apr 11 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | mac users dont maximize windows | Apr 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | of course | Apr 11 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Windows 2 has maximize and minimize, two things you can't do in GNOME 3 | Apr 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | since they can't | Apr 11 07:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 11 07:16 |
| Ender2070 | no lol | Apr 11 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 2.0 also had more customization options | Apr 11 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | i've seen one use a windows pc | Apr 11 07:17 |
| ACPI is Microsoft and I think that both Gnome and KDE have been corrupted with it through Dbus. | Apr 11 07:17 | |
| Ender2070 | same thing | Apr 11 07:17 |
| MinceR | they probably don't realize they could | Apr 11 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | oh they know they can | Apr 11 07:17 |
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| Ender2070 | once they learn it one way | Apr 11 07:17 |
| MinceR | or they don't want to admit that even winblows beats their favorite crap GUI in basic matters | Apr 11 07:17 |
| Ender2070 | rinse and repeat | Apr 11 07:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Congratulations! ♺ @macno: Good morning! Woke up one year older today | Apr 11 07:17 | |
| Ender2070 | oh this guy whined and complained it wasnt mac os | Apr 11 07:17 |
| how dependent on ACPI is dbus? | Apr 11 07:18 | |
| MinceR | i suspect not at all | Apr 11 07:18 |
| MinceR | hal (and whatever they've replaced it with) might though | Apr 11 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | twitter - daemonfc just got burned by foxconn once on a shitty motherboard he probably paid $50 on | Apr 11 07:18 |
| MinceR | +be | Apr 11 07:18 |
| Ender2070 | thats where his hate for acpi comes from | Apr 11 07:19 |
| Ender2070 | a bios that crashed linux | Apr 11 07:20 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@adsl-108-72-235-19.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Apr 11 07:21 | |
| I hate ACPI for a lot of reasons... http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/183403 | Apr 11 07:21 | |
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| ACPI is Microsoft's power management poison, designed specifically to screw gnu/linux. | Apr 11 07:22 | |
| DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ uname -a | Apr 11 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | Linux ryan-MS-7501 2.6.39-rc2-git3-ryan1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 11 01:30:26 EDT 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | Apr 11 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 07:22 |
| my current laptop is my second foray into ACPI land. | Apr 11 07:23 | |
| It is much improved over the last five years but still less solid than it should be. | Apr 11 07:23 | |
| Ender2070 | whats the alternative | Apr 11 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | Linux works around it by trying to do whatever Windows does | Apr 11 07:24 |
| APM worked great | Apr 11 07:24 | |
| DaemonFC | it tells the BIOS it is every version of Windows | Apr 11 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:24 |
| I have a Power PC that works alright | Apr 11 07:24 | |
| another one, a later model Apple mini, is on the way | Apr 11 07:24 | |
| Ender2070 | I have an old ms-dos laptop that boots in 5 seconds | Apr 11 07:25 |
| RMS runs MIPS | Apr 11 07:25 | |
| with a free software bios | Apr 11 07:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Linux has an EFI <> e820 BIOS translator built-in | Apr 11 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | internally, EFI is mapped as a BIOS | Apr 11 07:25 |
| proper software sleeps and does not need to boot | Apr 11 07:25 | |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 11 07:25 |
| really, the laptop that I did my thesis on would go for months. | Apr 11 07:26 | |
| DaemonFC | EFI is the only survivor of the Itanic | Apr 11 07:26 |
| why do you call it a survivor? | Apr 11 07:26 | |
| is it free software? | Apr 11 07:26 | |
| DaemonFC | because it found its way onto x86 PC motherboards | Apr 11 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | (only Intel ones) | Apr 11 07:27 |
| if it's not free software, it will vanish sooner than later | Apr 11 07:27 | |
| DaemonFC | survivor in the sense that Itanic is finished | Apr 11 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | BIOS isn't free software | Apr 11 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | it is older than I am | Apr 11 07:27 |
| there are free replacements and vendors should use them | Apr 11 07:28 | |
| DaemonFC | then Intel would threaten to not support them | Apr 11 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | or something | Apr 11 07:28 |
| Ender2070 | anything free for x86_64 ? | Apr 11 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | CoreBoot supports some x86-64 motherboards | Apr 11 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm assuming the CPU can go into long mode with CoreBoot | Apr 11 07:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse :) | Apr 11 07:29 | |
| Ender2070 | last time I checked it was older hardware too | Apr 11 07:29 |
| MinceR | itanium doesn't seem to be gone yet | Apr 11 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's not, they said they will release the next one as planned | Apr 11 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | and end it after that | Apr 11 07:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 11 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and RHEL and Suse aren't supporting Itanic anymore | Apr 11 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's basically good as done | Apr 11 07:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/70793493 | Apr 11 07:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 00:54:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #Linux has always had an outstanding #desktop interface, in spite of the #Microsoft #FUD that has permeated for past decade. | Apr 11 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Intel planned to keep everyone using x86-32 in PAE mode forever | Apr 11 07:31 |
| DaemonFC | and sell incompatible Itaniums to businesses that needed a 64-bit CPU | Apr 11 07:32 |
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| Ender2070 | thats one good thing AMD did | Apr 11 07:32 |
| Ender2070 | 64 cpu | Apr 11 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | AMD64 and Opteron kind of put most of the nails into Itanium's coffin | Apr 11 07:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I got some LOLs from someone using the words #Twitter and "stable" in the same sentence. Ummm, yeah. Have you used Twitter yet? | Apr 11 07:32 | |
| lol, etch emulates APM on top of PowerPC PMU/SMU http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2008/01/msg00022.html | Apr 11 07:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: APM or ACPI on a PowerPC Laptop? .::. Size~: 5.86 KB | Apr 11 07:33 |
| no wonder it works | Apr 11 07:33 | |
| IBM did not eat M$/Intel power management dog food | Apr 11 07:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Windows on X86-64 still uses the process switcher that Microsoft developed for Itanium, only it doesn't have to emulate an x86 CPU (obviously | Apr 11 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | you get the same thing with Linux if you give it 32-bit x86 compatibility and install some 32-bit libraries | Apr 11 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | no fancy marketing name like WOW64 though | Apr 11 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft should have named it appropriately for what it does (load 32-bit executables and dlls) | Apr 11 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | something like UGH32 | Apr 11 07:36 |
| no fancy crashes either, WOW is not so wow | Apr 11 07:36 | |
| bow wow wow | Apr 11 07:36 | |
| DaemonFC | the WOW (64) started 4 years ago, sorry we're late | Apr 11 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 07:37 |
| Virtual box works better, ha ha | Apr 11 07:37 | |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt even emulate it | Apr 11 07:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | it just makes the /proc or /sys shit work | Apr 11 07:37 |
| What's worse than Windows? Windows on Windows. | Apr 11 07:37 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR wants some hot Windows on Windows action | Apr 11 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | don't lie :P | Apr 11 07:38 |
| I worked at a place that tried to deploy that, it was a real mess. | Apr 11 07:38 | |
| they would have been better off with mud wrestling in the server room | Apr 11 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gah. Need coffee! | Apr 11 07:39 | |
| DaemonFC | one thing that I found interesting was that KDE guy saying that Compiz and KWin share code | Apr 11 07:42 |
| MinceR | actually intel's plan to not release the itanium for anything except servers put most of the nails into that coffin :> | Apr 11 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | true | Apr 11 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | bad business decision | Apr 11 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | but they were trying to sell them at inflated prices | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | not as commodity hardware | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | they figured they'd sell them with big mandatory service contracts | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | and clean up big time | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | and over on the other corner, for 10 times cheaper, Opteron | Apr 11 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | did most of what you wanted out of the Itanium and had x86 32-bit compatibility | Apr 11 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | so Intel set themselves up to be knocked down by AMD | Apr 11 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | greed :) | Apr 11 07:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Gedit Collaborative Editing via Telepathy http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/gedit-collaborative-editing/ | Apr 11 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm right around the corner and I'm one sick puppy. | Apr 11 07:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I used to buy Intel, it's just not worth it | Apr 11 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | the processors are marginally faster than AMDs but way more expensive | Apr 11 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | especially when you consider that the motherboards are also more expensive | Apr 11 07:49 |
| AMD has always worked better for me. | Apr 11 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Android Passes Blackberry in the US http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/android-passes-blackberry-in-us/ | Apr 11 07:51 | |
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| AMD's dual core was supposed to be better built. I'm not sure if that is still true. | Apr 11 07:51 | |
| better internal bus work | Apr 11 07:51 | |
| I need sleep, gn | Apr 11 07:52 | |
| *twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has left #techrights | Apr 11 07:52 | |
| DaemonFC | wow, XFS got a lot faster in .39 | Apr 11 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | and delaylog is now the default mode | Apr 11 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | very nice | Apr 11 07:55 |
| schestowitz | [07:49] <twitter> AMD has always worked better for me. | Apr 11 07:55 |
| schestowitz | same here | Apr 11 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Linux 2.6.39 is going to be a very nice kernel for XFS and Radeon users | Apr 11 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 07:56 |
| schestowitz | has AMD laptop and AMD desktop in the house, PDA runs Motorola/ARM IIRC | Apr 11 07:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Habari 0.7 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/habari-0-7-released/ | Apr 11 07:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Habari 0.7 Released .::. Size~: 28.07 KB | Apr 11 07:56 |
| *DaemonFC uses both | Apr 11 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | shops can't | Apr 11 07:56 |
| schestowitz | Intel would "whack" them | Apr 11 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | Intel sucks | Apr 11 07:56 |
| schestowitz | Discount as a reverse bribe | Apr 11 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | didn't they get caught sabotaging their compilers? | Apr 11 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | so that the code would be slow on other x86 processors | Apr 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry | Apr 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | Intel will probably have more blunders to come | Apr 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | A family member of mine who works there is now training in India | Apr 11 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I used Intel's compiler to build kernels when I used an Intel processor | Apr 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | So I reckon Intel is gonna just take a dump on the West | Apr 11 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | but the differences between theirs and GCC are small lately | Apr 11 07:58 |
| schestowitz | So that Craig and Paul get to be bigger billionaires, pollute everything, take up all the water, and mistreat employees | Apr 11 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason to go out of your way to get icc even if you have Intel | Apr 11 07:58 |
| schestowitz | do they profit from compilers? | Apr 11 07:58 |
| schestowitz | They no longer charge much for SW | Apr 11 07:59 |
| schestowitz | They can make that commodity | Apr 11 07:59 |
| schestowitz | Like moblin | Apr 11 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | they do if they generate code that performs really well on Intel CPUs | Apr 11 07:59 |
| schestowitz | As long as it sells their chips | Apr 11 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | or really badly on AMD | Apr 11 07:59 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 11 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | and icc is freeware | Apr 11 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | not free software | Apr 11 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_C%2B%2B_Compiler | Apr 11 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intel C++ Compiler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 52.58 KB | Apr 11 08:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Cloud for Academics http://wp.me/pj2fj-pB | Apr 11 08:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Employees Rate Ballmer as Worst CEO in Technology http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/ballmer-worst-ceo-in-tech/ | Apr 11 08:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cloud for Academics « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 33.75 KB | Apr 11 08:06 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Amazon is making their EC2 patches to Ubuntu now | Apr 11 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | instead of kernel.org | Apr 11 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git;a=commit;h=15e3e76df67d1ac6a23fe9e2bbd52a51e4d5fdf0 | Apr 11 08:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Un Futuro Para Microsoft Como Firma Cabildera y Como Buitre de Fondos http://ur1.ca/3trvz #swpats #microsoft #sco #linux #novell | Apr 11 08:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] CyanogenMod 7 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/cyanogenmod-7-released/ | Apr 11 08:11 | |
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| schestowitz | http://justinstories.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/meet-the-ubuntu-or-rather-unity-menu-will-you-call-this-an-innovation/ | Apr 11 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meet the ubuntu (or rather unity) menu; will you call this an innovation? « Justin Stories .::. Size~: 40.31 KB | Apr 11 08:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] interesting presentation of real-life Windows Azure lock-in in academia - will upload slides when available. | Apr 11 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm back in action and have a shitload of news to research so get ready for a news #fabalanche. :D | Apr 11 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "How you design your app can have serious consequences on your pricing" - running stuff on a cloud | Apr 11 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] the speaker is killing windows azure's model. :-). | Apr 11 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] configuring elasticity in azure - "<Instances count="1"/> this is where you will be killed by the charges | Apr 11 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ubuntu "Gnome Remix" Launched http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/ubuntu-gnome-remix-launched/ | Apr 11 08:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Myths of Windows Azure charges: http://blog.structuretoobig.com/post/2010/02/09/Thoughts-on-Windows-Azure-Pricinge280a6.aspx | Apr 11 08:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thoughts on Windows Azure Pricing… .::. Size~: 35.44 KB | Apr 11 08:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] A bill from Azure. http://ur1.ca/3trz9 | Apr 11 08:41 | |
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| schestowitz | ****ing email | Apr 11 08:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source #Horde groupware reaches version 4 http://ur1.ca/3ts0k great software, I spent many hundreds of hours with it. #mail #email | Apr 11 08:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open source Horde groupware reaches version 4 - php, open source, horde, groupware, frameworks, e-mail - Applications - Mobile - Techworld .::. Size~: 73.9 KB | Apr 11 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Once again it does not deliver important messages to me | Apr 11 08:49 |
| schestowitz | And I asked the sender to resend 4 times in different ways | Apr 11 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Still not arriving | Apr 11 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Systemic error | Apr 11 08:50 |
| schestowitz | This is why I drop E-mail any time it's possible | Apr 11 08:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If you want to know what's my position on Google and censorhip, read what I've written in tempore non suspecto: http://piana.eu/google | Apr 11 08:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: On Google and censorship | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 17.89 KB | Apr 11 08:51 |
| schestowitz | If it were not for Microsoft Windows and the botnets it makes, E-mail would still be viable | Apr 11 08:51 |
| schestowitz | But now the filters make it unusable | Apr 11 08:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, PCs make botnets | Apr 11 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | PCs!!!! | Apr 11 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | get it? :P | Apr 11 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | did you hear about Ubuntu's new wallpaper? | Apr 11 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 08:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] US Internet User Arrested for Linking to Websites http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/internet-user-arrested-for-linking/ | Apr 11 08:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz is a PC, and Windows Live Hotmail was his idea | Apr 11 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 08:56 |
| lightpriest_ | has anyone browsed youtube lately? | Apr 11 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | if you combined Chris Crocker's looks with The Amazing Atheist's personality, intellect, and demeanor | Apr 11 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | you might have my perfect mate | Apr 11 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | what is this about Youtube? | Apr 11 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 08:58 |
| schestowitz | lightpriest_: why? | Apr 11 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | dmcatube | Apr 11 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | this 3 year olds birthday party music is an infringement | Apr 11 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 08:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My stats suggest that IE share is lower than reported and IE9 is still #fail. I've reasons to believe the're s/w significant | Apr 11 08:59 | |
| lightpriest_ | they started showing ads prior to playing the video itself... and for some reason an organization called "World's last chance" is advertising the world's end or some sort | Apr 11 08:59 |
| lightpriest_ | it's a 15 min. ad! | Apr 11 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | lightpriest_, Adblock Plus | Apr 11 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | it strips those ads out | Apr 11 09:00 |
| lightpriest_ | i don't mind ads | Apr 11 09:00 |
| lightpriest_ | and this ad can be skipped | Apr 11 09:00 |
| lightpriest_ | but people might confuse this one with some real conspiracy or i don't know what | Apr 11 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't respond to advertising anyway | Apr 11 09:00 |
| lightpriest_ | i mean, wtf! | Apr 11 09:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks. It has been online for a few months now. I think it's a fair and balanced position to hold. | Apr 11 09:01 | |
| DaemonFC | everything is a conspiracy | Apr 11 09:01 |
| lightpriest_ | my youngest sister got spooked, she thought it really means something | Apr 11 09:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] My #NexusOne is now on #CyanogenMod7 final. :) | Apr 11 09:02 | |
| DaemonFC | it's probably just viral advertising nonsense | Apr 11 09:02 |
| schestowitz | [08:59] <lightpriest_> they started showing ads prior to playing the video itself... and for some reason an organization called "World's last chance" is advertising the world's end or some sort | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | YES | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | So it's not just me then :-) | Apr 11 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz and I and about 7 billion others were left behind | Apr 11 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 11 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | NOOOO!!!!!!! | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | generally ads | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Not this one | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Long ads | Apr 11 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Google shattered other video sites | Apr 11 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Now i's | Apr 11 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Now it's time to pile on the pre-video junk | Apr 11 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Inc. music videos | Apr 11 09:06 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gg2 | Apr 11 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Plus | Apr 11 09:06 |
| schestowitz | g2g, bbl | Apr 11 09:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yes! DDMS finally works in #F15 without adding any udev rules. Thank you, !Fedora devs! :) | Apr 11 09:12 | |
| MinceR | yawnings | Apr 11 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Muwhahahahaha.... :D #nichtlustig #android #app http://ur1.ca/3ts3q | Apr 11 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods. So much news to get through..... Xx | Apr 11 09:22 | |
| DaemonFC | that was weird | Apr 11 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | KWin just froze halfway into an animation | Apr 11 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | and I had to suspend it with alt-shift-F12 | Apr 11 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow! Never thought this was possible, but it looks like M$ managed to make Explorer even more horrible for #Win8. Oo http://outl.ws/x | Apr 11 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8 Secrets: Windows Explorer Ribbon .::. Size~: 84.83 KB | Apr 11 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @yareckon: Dear fontmakers, I will buy a perpetual license for a webfont, not a monthly one. Just like other fonts, thanks. | Apr 11 09:31 | |
| MinceR | lol @ ribbon for explorer | Apr 11 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, you dolt! | Apr 11 09:32 |
| MinceR | no u | Apr 11 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ribbon + Windows Explorer = shite file manager combined with the most horrible idea Microsoft had in years. My mouth tastes funny.... :X | Apr 11 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Statement on Private #Manning's Detention - http://bit.ly/hwmdVc pretty heavy slapdown for #obama from top academics | Apr 11 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jamie_love The #USPTO is also reportedly trying to divide blindness groups, to undermine #WBU. >>charming people | Apr 11 09:32 | |
| DaemonFC | It's IntelliRibbon Explorer! | Apr 11 09:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Balkinization .::. Size~: 99.73 KB | Apr 11 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | damn it, get it right | Apr 11 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe IntelliRibbon ExplorernetX | Apr 11 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | who knows? | Apr 11 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft isn't exactly real original with their naming, it will be something like that | Apr 11 09:33 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 11 09:34 |
| MinceR | Microsoft® IntelliRibbon™ ActiveExplorerX.NET™ Ultimate Enterprise Pro | Apr 11 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | clone existing product, but make it slower, more expensive, and buggy | Apr 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | give it a stupid, dull and uninspired name | Apr 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | and make sure it doesn't interact well with other software | Apr 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's recipe | Apr 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I liked the OOXML Two-step myself | Apr 11 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | get ISO to approve it as a standard | Apr 11 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | violate your own standard, and call it Transitional | Apr 11 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Also, notice how Navigator hardly ever crashed until you ran it on Windows 98? | Apr 11 09:37 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if i've ran it on <98 | Apr 11 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | I ran it on Windows 3.1 and 95 and NT 4 just fine | Apr 11 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | as soon as you use it on 98 or 2000, it starts crashing all the time | Apr 11 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite is the one where it crashes and appears to close, but stays running as a zombie | Apr 11 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | so you can't reopen it without killing the zombie from the task manager :) | Apr 11 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTH is @jonobacon posting pictures of Justin Bieber on his blog??? I really didn't need that at all this morning.... :X | Apr 11 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I always said too much metal ain't good for the head... | Apr 11 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmm.... I liked the old @jonobacon better. He was rock'n'roll and said what he was thinking instead of couching everything in harmony. | Apr 11 09:44 | |
| *MinceR didn't know the old jono | Apr 11 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Harmony is overrated IMO. | Apr 11 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Meet the senator blocking Big Content's Web #censorship plan - http://bit.ly/glsLTM power to his elbow #coica | Apr 11 09:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | he's fitting in with the Ubuntu mentality | Apr 11 09:46 |
| MinceR | i also don't know what's supposed to be "magic" about that fundie prick | Apr 11 09:46 |
| MinceR | (the one he posted a picture of) | Apr 11 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | rude=get kicked out of their clubhouse | Apr 11 09:46 |
| MinceR | you forgot to qualify | Apr 11 09:46 |
| MinceR | rude to m$ flunkies = get kicked out of their clubhouse | Apr 11 09:47 |
| MinceR | it's ok to be rude to those who further IT | Apr 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | no, they're politically correct, unprofessional cronies | Apr 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | and if you slight them, you have lit the fuse on their tampons | Apr 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 09:48 |
| MinceR | i don't think that calling your developers and users "peanut gallery" is exactly polity | Apr 11 09:48 |
| MinceR | s/.$/e/ | Apr 11 09:48 |
| MinceR | though it might be PC | Apr 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | that's why it's not even worth going to their chatrooms or their IRC channels | Apr 11 09:49 |
| MinceR | i don't care for political correctness, it's just bullshit | Apr 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | it didn't always used to be like this | Apr 11 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | they used to have off topic forums and forums to discuss other distros and such | Apr 11 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | you look at the Resolution Center part of the forum and tell me what you think is wrong with that picture | Apr 11 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Impressions from a Country Without # Copyright - http://bit.ly/hVOgd8 interesting #serbia | Apr 11 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cisco throws networking into #OpenStack cloud - http://cnet.co/feyjQe don't hear much from #cisco these days #cloudcomputing | Apr 11 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] All items (469) - *sigh* | Apr 11 09:51 | |
| DaemonFC | their forum staff are a bunch of jerks | Apr 11 09:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @trzewiczek: Raw Salad na NetWtorku juz jutro - zapraszam na Chłodną 25 w Warszawie (http://netwtorek.pl/) | Apr 11 09:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_histq111&num=1 | Apr 11 09:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] The Major Open-Source ATI Improvements Over Two Years .::. Size~: 20.9 KB | Apr 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | "Running Nexuiz (with high quality settings) on the "R300c" classic Mesa driver as used by default up until Ubuntu 10.10 is pretty much garbage for an ATI R500 GPU" | Apr 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Apr 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | more like "Mesa Classic drivers are garbage on any ATI/AMD GPU" | Apr 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | may they burn in hell | Apr 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | before they made the switch, you had to force Gallium3d to be used or else your card wasn't really any good for anything at all | Apr 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think the only GPUs (if you can call them that) that Mesa Classic wasn't total crap on were Intel | Apr 11 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | but Gallium3d is better on those too | Apr 11 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Please #HELP seeding the new #CentOS 5.6 via #bittorrent http://tinyurl.com/3ftg9n3 http://tinyurl.com/3ekyofl #linux #gnu #romania #foss | Apr 11 09:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | and all this guy talks about is speed | Apr 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | he leaves out that a lot of things won't work at all without Gallium | Apr 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | the latest version | Apr 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | with Linux 2.6.39 | Apr 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 09:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 75 million downloads on 2011-04-11 08:57 UTC | Apr 11 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA oprime la creatividad Señor Presidente Lic. Felipe Calderón Hinojosa - http://bit.ly/ggQ3NP a Mexican citizen writes to her president | Apr 11 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sourcing a 3d Printer - http://bit.ly/hVhzhS old price for a #RepRap: $3000+; today's price: $400. the future just got closer #3dprinting | Apr 11 10:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: @fabsh Headsets also interfere with the critical task of imbibing alcohol while recording. | Apr 11 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @comzeradd: #gnome 3 is the most productive, non-geek UX any OS ever had. and that's a win for Open-Source #fedora | Apr 11 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] MyRENCloud Project - ONDIRECT - On Demand Infrastructure for Research and Education Collaborative Technologies. Interesting .MY project. | Apr 11 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] http://ucast.upm.edu.my/ - video on demand for education. | Apr 11 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] MyRENCloud to be launched in June 2011. | Apr 11 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @scottpashley: Good to see MS working on the important stuff http://bit.ly/hpfiM0 | Apr 11 10:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR is a 128-bit PC and Windows 8 was his idea | Apr 11 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 10:10 |
| MinceR | there's no 128bit PC | Apr 11 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | but Microsoft promised! | Apr 11 10:10 |
| MinceR | so? | Apr 11 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, what they meant was get PR now and by the time there is a Windows 8, you'll forget what they said | Apr 11 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | there is no x86-128, and when there is, Microsoft will kind of support it 5 years later | Apr 11 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | if history repeats itself | Apr 11 10:12 |
| cubezzz | 32 bits is all you need | Apr 11 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | no, I need......... | Apr 11 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | MOAR!!!!!! | Apr 11 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 10:13 |
| cubezzz | well maybe windows 8 needs an 128-bit PC to run good | Apr 11 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, because all the software will still be 64-bit | Apr 11 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | until x86-256 has had some time to settle in | Apr 11 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | which will be supported in Windows 9 | Apr 11 10:16 |
| MinceR | "stable" plasma-desktop in "stable" kde 4.3 just crashed | Apr 11 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's what auto recovery is for | Apr 11 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | just ask Microsoft | Apr 11 10:17 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, I'm surprised you haven't gone back to kde 3.5.10 :) | Apr 11 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 10:17 |
| cubezzz | nah, I don't like even talking to Microsoft | Apr 11 10:17 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: didn't have time for such changes | Apr 11 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | why fix your bugs when you can just have the thing respawn? | Apr 11 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | kind of like Pulseaudio | Apr 11 10:17 |
| MinceR | and for a long time i believed i don't even have the disk space to try out a new distro in a VM | Apr 11 10:18 |
| MinceR | then i remembered that i left a separate partition on my WD Passport specifically for distro testing | Apr 11 10:18 |
| MinceR | i might as well use that | Apr 11 10:18 |
| MinceR | (i thought that usb is too slow and cpu-hungry for this, but if it was ok to run a second distro on the bare metal then it should be fine for a vm...) | Apr 11 10:18 |
| cubezzz | and they are up to 4.6 now | Apr 11 10:21 |
| cubezzz | not sure what distro uses that though | Apr 11 10:21 |
| cubezzz | so many distros now, I can't really keep track of them all | Apr 11 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4.6 is available for Kubuntu through backports | Apr 11 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's there by default in Natty | Apr 11 10:24 |
| MinceR | if i'm getting rid of kde, i might as well get rid of *ubuntu too | Apr 11 10:24 |
| MinceR | which i intend to do anyway | Apr 11 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's in Fedora 15 officially and Fedora 14 through kde-redhat | Apr 11 10:24 |
| cubezzz | you don't have to get rid of KDE though | Apr 11 10:24 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know if Natty is more stable or I'm just getting less crashes because I ditched FGLRX | Apr 11 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | possibly both | Apr 11 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 11 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | nvidia and fglrx are both bad, but fglrx is probably worse than nvidia in a photo finish | Apr 11 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 11 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's reliable and repeatable ways to crash the X server or panic the kernel with both of them | Apr 11 10:27 |
| cubezzz | I haven't paniced FC1 since 2005 | Apr 11 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | so maybe users of those cards should check into using the free stack if they can get away with it | Apr 11 10:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @notch MUOAHAHA! Thunder Storms lower the brightness. That means daytime monsters during storms. This is freakily atmospheric. #minecraft | Apr 11 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | usually they just freeze your X server | Apr 11 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | which is in some ways as bad as a kernel panic | Apr 11 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | all your unsaved data is probably still gone | Apr 11 10:29 |
| cubezzz | just backup /etc and your home directory | Apr 11 10:30 |
| cubezzz | always a good idea anyway | Apr 11 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've only found one way to sometimes panic the kernel with radeon | Apr 11 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | I know of several ways to do it with FGLRX, and some X crashers as a bonus | Apr 11 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason, full screening a flash video in Firefox or Chromium will panic the kernel (if you have the compositor off) or freeze X (with the compositor on) with radeon | Apr 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | but if you have OpenGL compositing enabled in either of them, nothing will crash | Apr 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | or if you have XRender as your KWin backend, nothing will crash | Apr 11 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Just given a quick (3 minutes?) interview to the national radio broadcasting. Gotta find the podcast. | Apr 11 10:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Opera never has this problem | Apr 11 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | no matter how hard you try to provoke it | Apr 11 10:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hmmm. 4 disks a 2TB. Should I opt for RAID 5 or RAID 10? #ToughDecisions | Apr 11 10:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear @piwik - could you check if http://ur1.ca/3tshm #protochart could replace the flash graphs? | Apr 11 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Outch! OMGFailBuntu.... again. http://outl.ws/y | Apr 11 10:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @syntax: What. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Memory_Grid.png #minecraft | Apr 11 10:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: !Ubuntu #Natty Narwhal: Classic is Fixed! http://goo.gl/bA2EY | Apr 11 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Equinox Evolution: beautiful day themed GTK themes http://goo.gl/1CNbg | Apr 11 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Y !PPA Manager 0.0.7 Released (Easily Search A Package In All Launchpad PPAs) http://goo.gl/BiQ1T !u | Apr 11 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Community Leadership Summit 2011 http://goo.gl/vYQcn | Apr 11 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Web comes to !GNOME, ready or not http://goo.gl/CR8X6 | Apr 11 11:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tomeu Vizoso: Session on GObject Introspection at the !Ubuntu App Developer Week http://goo.gl/ADRnY | Apr 11 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Pockey: !GNOME 3 rocks! http://goo.gl/evh0I | Apr 11 11:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tomeu Vizoso: Session on GObject Introspection at the Ubuntu App Developer Week .::. Size~: 66.93 KB | Apr 11 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNOME 3 rocks! » Inspiration is food for every soul! .::. Size~: 32.37 KB | Apr 11 11:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Ubuntu "Gnome Remix" Launched http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/ubuntu-gnome-remix-launched/ | Apr 11 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews CyanogenMod 7 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/cyanogenmod-7-released/ | Apr 11 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Employees Rate Ballmer as Worst CEO in Technology http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/ballmer-worst-ceo-in-tech/ | Apr 11 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Gedit Collaborative Editing via Telepathy http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/gedit-collaborative-editing/ | Apr 11 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Android Passes Blackberry in the US http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/android-passes-blackberry-in-us/ | Apr 11 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @gnome: Lots of positive reactions from people trying #gnome3 over the weekend. Great to see. | Apr 11 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Stallman to speak at Stanford in the NVidia Auditorium: http://wmk.me/hmYNqr | Apr 11 11:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Join us for the live recording of Linux Outlaws 201 tonight at 18:00 UTC. Will include a special announcement. | Apr 11 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The inevitable is here : !Ubuntu !GNOME remix http://goo.gl/iuyA9 | Apr 11 11:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The inevitable is here : Ubuntu gnome remix « Justin Stories .::. Size~: 63.06 KB | Apr 11 11:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu 11.04 Switching Back To Classic GNOME By Default Instead Of Unity? http://ur1.ca/3tnnj | Apr 11 11:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: News of the World hacked 7,000 people, says lawyer - Read all about it http://bit.ly/gfomXr #security | Apr 11 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I wonder why RAI publishes webcasts only w/ Silverlight. They should be more careful w/ my (compulsory) TV license money. | Apr 11 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "entertainment industry lobbying against law changes?" WTF? They're lobbying to make them MORE unbalanced http://is.gd/ixk9hi | Apr 11 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is Rory's iPhone stuck on April 1st? "blanket fair use provision exists in the US" or did it get published late? | Apr 11 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] God bless ssh and rsync | Apr 11 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: Canadian conservatives promise "big brother laws" - At least they are honest http://bit.ly/ijXqRH #security | Apr 11 11:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canadian conservatives promise "big brother laws" - At least they are honest | TechEye .::. Size~: 22.48 KB | Apr 11 11:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @toros oh my... which gnome? 2.x or 3? | Apr 11 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @njpatel 39 fixes for Unity 3.8.6 since Friday, including edge-reveal for Launcher. Being uploaded now, enjoy! | Apr 11 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @rysiek !GNOME 3 - see the screenshots: http://goo.gl/iuyA9 | Apr 11 11:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @kevie Celebrating 20 years of !Linux http://tinyurl.com/5rtosje thanks @noslug | Apr 11 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !unity 3.8.6-0ubuntu1 source package is in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/4jMcA | Apr 11 12:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Testing statusnet android client on work phone. http://ur1.ca/3tsqf | Apr 11 12:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] anybody any hints why #snmpwalk does not translate OIDs to names (as in: .1.3.6 -> .iso.org.dod)? only 'iso' gets translated. !debian !linux | Apr 11 12:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Hindsight Is Almost 20/20 http://goo.gl/Xee21 | Apr 11 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Even the PM doubts the credibility of MSM. LOL! http://theonlinecitizen.com/2011/04/straits-times-credibility-et-tu-pm-lee/ #sgelection | Apr 11 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: Journey of a new !GNOME 3 !Debian packager http://goo.gl/4jFcS | Apr 11 12:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on a website. Drupal of course... | Apr 11 12:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh Drupal Drupal Drupal Drupal Druuuuuupaaaaal /me wishes he'd never head Jeff Robbins tune | Apr 11 12:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: !Ubuntu App Developer Week Kicks Off Today at 16:00 UTC http://goo.gl/ieYp7 | Apr 11 12:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] [blog.mondediplo]: le peuple est-il un enfant? http://ur1.ca/3tsw8 !wl !wikileaks | Apr 11 12:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @flisolbogota: Por un !Flisol inclusivo, video promocional #FlisolBogota. No te lo puedes perder, próximo 16 de abril! http://ur1.ca/3tsw5 | Apr 11 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] many women writers write in the nude? http://is.gd/7x2I3g brings a whole new layer to those who #selfpub & state #amwriting on #identica | Apr 11 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] every time i see "hammerpreis" in the store i feel the urge to throw on some parachute pants and do a shuffle dance down the aisle. | Apr 11 12:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if this dude gets sacked, I'm sure there's a place for him at #NewsInternational or #Channel5 http://is.gd/gFbVtL | Apr 11 13:02 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:26] <DaemonFC> KWin just froze halfway into an animation | Apr 11 13:04 |
| schestowitz | [09:26] <DaemonFC> and I had to suspend it with alt-shift-F12 | Apr 11 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Happens sometimes, but... kwin is supposed to suspend it on its own | Apr 11 13:04 |
| schestowitz | It never freezes too badly and in newer version you can resume kwin effects without restarting x | Apr 11 13:05 |
| MinceR | sometimes it crashes | Apr 11 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thistleweb: many women writers write in the nude? http://is.gd/7x2I3g brings a whole new layer to those who #selfpub & state #amwriting | Apr 11 13:09 | |
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| schestowitz | [10:16] <MinceR> "stable" plasma-desktop in "stable" kde 4.3 just crashed | Apr 11 13:10 |
| schestowitz | upgrade | Apr 11 13:10 |
| schestowitz | it's polished now | Apr 11 13:10 |
| MinceR | they said that about 4.3 too | Apr 11 13:11 |
| schestowitz | yup | Apr 11 13:11 |
| schestowitz | it used to be slow and bloated | Apr 11 13:11 |
| schestowitz | and needed restarts | Apr 11 13:11 |
| schestowitz | also didn't keep folderview up to date wrt files. now I'm happy with it | Apr 11 13:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government Considers Prizes To Boost #Innovation - http://bit.ly/e9Gi4m good to see exploration of other ideas (v @jamie_love) | Apr 11 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #India will not accept any intellectual property talks outside WTO - http://bit.ly/eSwXlv things like #acta (v @mgeist) | Apr 11 13:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @fabsh Hi are you going to review CM7 on !lo some time soon? | Apr 11 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Highlights from #China's "The Human Rights Record of the United States in 2010" report - http://bit.ly/egdHKW boot on other foot much? | Apr 11 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @fabsh It is okay, I'm just starting to learn what CM is, and notices that CM7 was out today, and I know from !lo that you run CM :-) | Apr 11 13:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europa auf dem Weg zu repressiveren Maßnahmen gegen #Copyright-Verletzungen im Netz? - http://bit.ly/dX0Xdz ja, leider #eu #ipred | Apr 11 13:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @sumwars Watch the new teaser of Summoning Wars http://goo.gl/oK3y7 :: !foss !3d !roleplaying !game for !linux :: !fossg !lg | Apr 11 13:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Government To Outlaw File-Sharing and Block The Pirate Bay - http://bit.ly/eAKj0X sad, I always thought of #nl as liberal #copyright | Apr 11 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After a long month, #techrights has just caught up with all IRC logs inc. yesterday's http://ur1.ca/3tt5n now we're ready to rock again :-) | Apr 11 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #India will not accept any intellectual property talks outside WTO - http://bit.ly/eSwXlv things like #acta | Apr 11 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] After a long month, !techrights has just caught up with all IRC logs inc. yesterday's http://ur1.ca/3tt5n now we're ready to rock again :-) | Apr 11 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Knowledge-Sharing on Agenda During #Ubuntu App Developer Week http://ur1.ca/3tt6q | Apr 11 13:56 | |
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| schestowitz | I think it'll be another beer night here today | Apr 11 13:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ARM versus Intel: a successful stratagem for #RISC or grist for CISC's tricks? http://ur1.ca/3tt7f lets hope #Intel gets the deserved kick | Apr 11 13:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Any DIY fix for mouse scroller that scrolls in only one direction (Logitech)? #lazyweb | Apr 11 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME3 and #KDE4 both adopted strategies for touchscreens and mobile devices, so they are future-proof. | Apr 11 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hey folks, any place on the web where I can find benchmarks on Libreoffice 3.3 over other office suites ??? | Apr 11 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Rodrigo Moya: Unofficial !GNOME 3 on !Ubuntu !PPA http://goo.gl/3q9h4 | Apr 11 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Chase Douglas: !Ubuntu App Developer Week Multitouch and Gestures Session http://goo.gl/Hy3nr | Apr 11 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Vincent Untz: !GNOME 3 celebrations from everywhere http://goo.gl/LNTdh | Apr 11 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Linux Mint Xfce 201104 http://ur1.ca/3ttb7 | Apr 11 14:21 | |
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| schestowitz | Meta Finnish guy at the gym today | Apr 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Told him that Finland=Linux | Apr 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | The Nokia | Apr 11 14:21 |
| schestowitz | And he knows Nokia had been hijacked by a mole | Apr 11 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, he'll be there again tomorrow, nice guy.. Man Utd. fan | Apr 11 14:22 |
| oiaohm | Its funny. | Apr 11 14:25 |
| oiaohm | HTC will pass Nokia for market share completely unless something changes. | Apr 11 14:26 |
| *amarsh04 has a handset labelled "Nokia" but it's an android unit made by Shenzhen Letel | Apr 11 14:27 | |
| amarsh04 | and it appears that Shenzhen Letel are just the builder, not the designer | Apr 11 14:29 |
| oiaohm | Shenzhen Letel traditionally has be large supplier of fakes. | Apr 11 14:32 |
| oiaohm | and above board items. | Apr 11 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] blog entry posted about Plasma Quick, part of the Plasma Active initiative; discussing kiosk-y things; soon off to watch a snowman burn. | Apr 11 14:33 | |
| schestowitz | Shenzhen is a city of village | Apr 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz | !google Shenzhen | Apr 11 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Shenzhen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen | Apr 11 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Shenzhen Travel Guide: Shenzhen Hotel, Map, Guangdong China | http://www.travelchinaguide.com/cityguides/guangdong/shenzhen/ | Apr 11 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Shenzhen travel guide - Wikitravel | http://wikitravel.org/en/Shenzhen | Apr 11 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - ShenZhen Government Online | http://english.sz.gov.cn/ | Apr 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz | IIRC they have a lot of ewaste concentration there, i.e. rare earths | Apr 11 14:33 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: an old colleague of mine (he was let go) has a site where he promotes methods for low-cost making of hardware like in China | Apr 11 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: #India will not accept any intellectual property talks outside WTO - http://bit.ly/eSwXlv things like #acta (v @mgeist) | Apr 11 14:34 | |
| schestowitz | It has a Chinese name to it | Apr 11 14:34 |
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| oiaohm | Really the question is what price. | Apr 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz | VERY cheap | Apr 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz | But I told him about patents | Apr 11 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Lot of low cost production in china is at the price of human lives. | Apr 11 14:35 |
| schestowitz | He was dismissive of Western activism | Apr 11 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Lot of what they are doing china will have to pay for in 30 years time. | Apr 11 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook for Journalists: More Work Than Twitter, but With Bigger Payout - http://bit.ly/hHDglS disagree: anyone? (v @mathewi @jayrosen_nyu) | Apr 11 14:36 | |
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| oiaohm | There is cheep production and then there is stupidly cheep. | Apr 11 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Stupidly cheap is not requiring people be in correct safty gear and with correct venting. | Apr 11 14:37 |
| oiaohm | heck even correct venting. Corrent venting really does not cost that much. | Apr 11 14:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] CyanogenMod 7.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/437842/rss | Apr 11 14:38 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: I know the call it Westen activisim but here In Australia we are still paying large cost for mining particular things without the required safety. | Apr 11 14:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I know | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | And he asked me, | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | what do you know about how these are made | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | And I told him I knew it was bad | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But not the specifics | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | I know they inhale a lot of nasty materials | Apr 11 14:39 |
| schestowitz | CyanogenMod | Apr 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz | When I heard it I think cyanide | Apr 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Is it just me? | Apr 11 14:40 |
| oiaohm | A mining town in australia that was for asbestos is off limits. Due to the fact the complete town is complete screwed up with asbestos. | Apr 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I saw that for metals to be used in cars Aussie blows up some mountains and processes the metal inside | Apr 11 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Even though a lot of it can be reused it may be more expensive than mining and putting on conveyor belts | Apr 11 14:41 |
| oiaohm | We have lot wasteland. | Apr 11 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I think oar, too | Apr 11 14:41 |
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| oiaohm | due to different mining operations gone wrong. | Apr 11 14:41 |
| oiaohm | Problem is australia is a small popluation. | Apr 11 14:42 |
| schestowitz | How about the fires that made it a desert? | Apr 11 14:42 |
| oiaohm | We can tollerate quite a lot of wasteland. | Apr 11 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Terra-forming | Apr 11 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Terra-forming happens here after metals are mined normally. | Apr 11 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Unless of course they screw it up that bad humans cannot go near it. | Apr 11 14:43 |
| oiaohm | Basically due to our complete disasters we have learnt to be a lot more careful. | Apr 11 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Toby FurnraceBoy (From AU) show me some photographer who goes around China and Canada showing how the terrain changes due to mining. Astounding stuff! | Apr 11 14:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @naw: EU About To Vote On Copyright Extension from 70 to 95 years http://ur1.ca/3tslm Write to your representatives !Elotrolado | Apr 11 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.6 i386 and x86_64 http://ur1.ca/3te1t #centos #rhel #gnu #linux #server | Apr 11 14:46 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.asbestosdiseases.org.au/asbestosinfo/wittenoom_tragedies.htm Yes Australia knows first hand what happens when you disreguard safety. | Apr 11 14:46 |
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| oiaohm | wittenoon is a tragedity that could have been completely prevented. | Apr 11 14:46 |
| oiaohm | And if china does not watch it they will have many of them. | Apr 11 14:47 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Govt_Warning_-_Wittenoom_WA.JPG schestowitz Does china want to ever have todo this. | Apr 11 14:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: File:Govt Warning - Wittenoom WA.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 29.42 KB | Apr 11 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes the complete town of Wittenoom is a no go zone. | Apr 11 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Drupal Open Source News Website Blottr and The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg http://ur1.ca/3ttdz #uk #gpl #cms | Apr 11 14:49 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: interesting | Apr 11 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't heard of it | Apr 11 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Note wittenoom is not the only place in australia marked no go due to major stuff ups. | Apr 11 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @c0y0t3 Curso de Diseño Gráfico en GNU/Linux ur1.ca/3tsuj | Apr 11 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sorting Algorithms As Dances (/.): http://bit.ly/fdT1fK | Apr 11 14:53 | |
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| oiaohm | Most people have heard of this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maralinga,_South_Australia Nuke testing you kinda expect a mess. schestowitz | Apr 11 14:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Clementine Steadily Improving-PPA for Ubuntu Maverick, Natty Updated http://ur1.ca/3ttei #minirok is another one to watch out for. #qt #kde | Apr 11 14:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Clementine Steadily Improving - PPA for Ubuntu Maverick, Natty Updated | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 47.26 KB | Apr 11 14:54 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Australia when it comes to the price of not using safety gear we can talk very first hand. | Apr 11 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70821753 | Apr 11 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Carlo Piana (carlopiana)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 13:34:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz which type? Ball or optical mouse? If optical youre scr--ed I guess. Ball: cleaning should be sufficient. | Apr 11 15:01 |
| qubitar | PR for Chemtrails: http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC110404-0000750/Tweaking-the-climate-to-save-it--Who-decides | Apr 11 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | World | Tweaking the climate to save it: Who decides? .::. Size~: 96.84 KB | Apr 11 15:01 |
| schestowitz | it's actually the scroller thing on the middle button. Just weeks after I got the mouse it wouldn't scroll down properly. | Apr 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | stupid Logitech | Apr 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Mechanical issues | Apr 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | And all I did was use the mouse | Apr 11 15:02 |
| schestowitz | no falls or anything | Apr 11 15:02 |
| qubitar | Made in China | Apr 11 15:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/10/2978350.htm Fall out from trying to clean one of the lead disaster areas up. In Australia. Yes the clean up is working but it has cost a lot. | Apr 11 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Since this product I promised myself that I would never buy #Logitech again. Mechanical issues without any reason except week's use | Apr 11 15:03 |
| qubitar | dude | Apr 11 15:03 |
| qubitar | You got ONE lemon and you boycott the best manufacturer of input devices? | Apr 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | There are many brands around | Apr 11 15:04 |
| qubitar | there is something wrong with you | Apr 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | I don't do some site about it | Apr 11 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google's patents bid may prompt showdown with Microsoft (register): http://bit.ly/gSbEsi | Apr 11 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | I just say, they screwed up, so I'll look out for those who don't | Apr 11 15:04 |
| schestowitz | Same with Nike | Apr 11 15:04 |
| qubitar | lol | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Got running trainers some days ago... | Apr 11 15:05 |
| qubitar | they screwed up by getting it mass produced in china | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Reebok is good | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Lasts for ages the ones I had | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: yes | Apr 11 15:05 |
| oiaohm | qubitar: Ok what the hell are these guys on. http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC110404-0000750/Tweaking-the-climate-to-save-it--Who-decides | Apr 11 15:05 |
| qubitar | i'd like to see you find an input device manufacturer that doesn't ever produce defective units | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | It's their fault and they overcharge | Apr 11 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | qubitar: statistics | Apr 11 15:05 |
| oiaohm | qubitar: evaporation pans already show the world is suffering from global dimming. | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: statistics in error | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: statistics in sales | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | That's business | Apr 11 15:05 |
| schestowitz | More defects -> less sales | Apr 11 15:06 |
| oiaohm | qubitar: and some of those people want to dim the earth more. | Apr 11 15:06 |
| qubitar | you can't avoid it | Apr 11 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[swadeshine/@swadeshine] DOD to wait until 2013 to close !WikiLeaks security hole > http://bit.ly/g5qEY2 (huh?) | Apr 11 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How is SSL hopelessly broken? Let us count the ways (Register): http://bit.ly/h3Kg78 | Apr 11 15:06 | |
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| qubitar | I used to work in retail IT | Apr 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure Logitech's rivals are eager to candidly deliver to logitech escapees | Apr 11 15:06 |
| qubitar | logitech has no decent competitors | Apr 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | That's capitalism, brandon | Apr 11 15:06 |
| schestowitz | If you don't like ender, you're atlas, then qubitar | Apr 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | wth is it with the many names? | Apr 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | You feed our adversaries | Apr 11 15:07 |
| qubitar | not really | Apr 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | They'll detract from the site's message using stufff like that | Apr 11 15:07 |
| qubitar | im not at home right now | Apr 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | Like they did "by association" with another person who's in IRC | Apr 11 15:07 |
| schestowitz | qubitar: so do what I do | Apr 11 15:08 |
| qubitar | im not techrights staff so they can think what they want | Apr 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | schestowitz_CS or whatever | Apr 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | techrights has no staff | Apr 11 15:08 |
| *qubitar is now known as ender_nothome | Apr 11 15:08 | |
| schestowitz | Yay | Apr 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | My hack works | Apr 11 15:08 |
| ender_nothome | btw your tinfoil hat is backwards | Apr 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Cheeckbone detector | Apr 11 15:08 |
| schestowitz | *cheek | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: better | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Some people won't know the rel' between handles | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | And use that to rant against us | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | That's what they do to defend mono | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | They can'y | Apr 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | So they attack the messenger | Apr 11 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CentOS 5.6 now available (H): http://bit.ly/hCNTFq | Apr 11 15:09 | |
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| schestowitz | If not directly then by association | Apr 11 15:09 |
| ender_nothome | attacking the messenger is obviously ad hominem | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | And they try to incite against us, same they did to Groklaw for 8 years\ | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: it's effective to them | Apr 11 15:10 |
| ender_nothome | anyways | Apr 11 15:10 |
| ender_nothome | what is better than Logitech | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | They try to paint me as angry, conpiracy-thirsty person... same with Groklaw/PJ | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: don't know | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | I can go for unbranded | Apr 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Rebandged | Apr 11 15:11 |
| ender_nothome | i wouldnt go unbranded | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Carrying the name of PC maker type | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | *rebadged | Apr 11 15:11 |
| ender_nothome | i'd rather not use a noname chinese knock off that dies in 3 months | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | They lasted me longer, I think | Apr 11 15:11 |
| ender_nothome | I worked in retail IT | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | I did too | Apr 11 15:11 |
| ender_nothome | logitech had the highest quality and lowest return rate | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | I sold mice when I was 18-19 | Apr 11 15:11 |
| ender_nothome | none of them had no returns | Apr 11 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Among other things like PCs... but anyway | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Salespeople are encouraged to sell the pricey stuff | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | It's good for the shop's bottom line | Apr 11 15:12 |
| ender_nothome | logitechs only true competition in mice is microsoft | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 keyboards | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | 2 of them in plastic box, not used | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I use the cheapest one | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Cause it works best | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Good for tactile | Apr 11 15:12 |
| schestowitz | It cost me about 3 quid IIRC | Apr 11 15:13 |
| ender_nothome | im sure my logitech g15 works better | Apr 11 15:13 |
| schestowitz | The other ones look good, but are hard to type on | Apr 11 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Ask MinceR how many typos I had with them... and one had a bad SHIFT key | Apr 11 15:13 |
| ender_nothome | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_G15 | Apr 11 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | WTH | Apr 11 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Wikipedia on specific models? | Apr 11 15:13 |
| schestowitz | What a waste of bytes | Apr 11 15:13 |
| ender_nothome | :P | Apr 11 15:14 |
| *MinceR prefers his Cherry keyboard | Apr 11 15:14 | |
| ender_nothome | my keyboard has an lcd screen :) | Apr 11 15:14 |
| ender_nothome | it also has two usb ports that I can use to plug in devices without going to the back of the pc | Apr 11 15:15 |
| ender_nothome | i've had it since launch | Apr 11 15:15 |
| *schestowitz can eat cherries on the lousy cheapo keyboard | Apr 11 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | [which works better than anything else] | Apr 11 15:15 |
| *schestowitz uses IRC on the leather sofa | Apr 11 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Installing !gnome on !#!; we'll see what happens | Apr 11 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @splitbrain: QOTD: "Ich krieg grad ein wichtiges Gespräch auf mein Mobil-Handy" | Apr 11 15:16 | |
| ender_nothome | i've had this since launch, not many keyboards i've had that last longer than a few years | Apr 11 15:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AMD Jumping on the Android Bandwagon http://ur1.ca/3ttib #Linux -- not #windows -- is the safe bet now | Apr 11 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] You’re Not Sharing What You Think You Are on Facebook (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/igiWL2 | Apr 11 15:18 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: so that's why Britain needs Aussie :-) | Apr 11 15:22 |
| MinceR | my keyboard has Cherry ML switches | Apr 11 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj You’re Not Sharing What You Think You Are on Facebook (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/igiWL2 | Apr 11 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Get €1,000 to raise awareness of @creativecommons in the Nordic region. Deadline 23 April: http://j.mp/f6idLV via @jonaso | Apr 11 15:31 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: ml=multilingual? | Apr 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | the flatter version of MX | Apr 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | for slim keyboards | Apr 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | the Optimus Maximus uses ML switches too :> | Apr 11 15:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Spreadsheet Helper... or SHiTunes as it's known :) | Apr 11 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | Slim? | Apr 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like Apple | Apr 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | laptop-like | Apr 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | I find that many people her hate Apple | Apr 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | but not as much as Apple people | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | One of them even has a hypePhone | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | But won't make calls on it | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Just for diary | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I know another one like this | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Has hypePhone just for the same reason as having jewlery | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Makes all the calls never on the hypePhone | Apr 11 15:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | The former is a Polish friend of mine and today he told me the phone he uses cost 5 pounds | Apr 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | hypePhone is like $500 | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Like diamonds | Apr 11 15:36 |
| MinceR | jewelry is pointless, unless it has an extra function | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | They don't do anything | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it does | Apr 11 15:36 |
| MinceR | like a poison needle or some enchantment :> | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | When you go broke | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Then you sell stuff you wear and get food | Apr 11 15:36 |
| MinceR | you could just keep it in cash | Apr 11 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Well, yeah :-) | Apr 11 15:36 |
| ender_nothome | my gf owns a hypephone | Apr 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | And cause no Conflict Diamond-related murders in north Africa | Apr 11 15:37 |
| ender_nothome | i see people with them every day | Apr 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: she doesn't | Apr 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Apple owns it | Apr 11 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just about to finish work, next up, English exams *sigh* All this week :( I hate marking exams and compositions! | Apr 11 15:38 | |
| ender_nothome | just like monsanto owns your food | Apr 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Renting it to be associated with Apple's ultra-thin CEO | Apr 11 15:38 |
| ender_nothome | just like the queen who owns you | Apr 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | She doesn't | Apr 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | My nationality is german\ | Apr 11 15:38 |
| ender_nothome | and? | Apr 11 15:39 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxlibrary.org/index.php/distributions/pclinuxos-2010-gnome-zenmini-review/ | Apr 11 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | ender_nothome: and she doesn't really own anyone | Apr 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | Royal family in the UK is representative | Apr 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | Like Obama | Apr 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | The people who run this country are shadowy | Apr 11 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @toros The 400th issue of #DistroWatch Weekly has been released. This Week's Feature Story: First look at CrunchBang !Linux 10 http:/ ... | Apr 11 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Well, installing !gnome on !crunchbang has solved my "should I install debian?" problem ;) | Apr 11 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @toros I do like a well-researched article [/sarcasm] | Apr 11 15:41 | |
| schestowitz | Decisions are made by PMs and stuff that act as fronts for other interests | Apr 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | I think that the royal dynasty works more like a real rich centre of power in Arab countries, but not in the UK | Apr 11 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Here, wealth is King | Apr 11 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Heck, the Rothschilds control the country more than the queen | Apr 11 15:42 |
| ender_nothome | globalists in the end | Apr 11 15:43 |
| ender_nothome | I wish I had finished my book | Apr 11 15:43 |
| ender_nothome | would've been perfect for elections | Apr 11 15:43 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 11 15:43 |
| schestowitz | PMs come and go | Apr 11 15:43 |
| schestowitz | They can't ever gain much power | Apr 11 15:43 |
| schestowitz | The law is designed that way | Apr 11 15:44 |
| ender_nothome | some of them become part of the parellel government | Apr 11 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | But the law is not designed to account for royal families and oligarchs, so they run across generations | Apr 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: | Apr 11 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jay Taoko: Demystifying !Unity's Graphics Hardware Requirements http://goo.gl/XNSx7 !u | Apr 11 15:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Apr 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | !google bill moher secret government | Apr 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis, by Bill Moyers | http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D3505348655137118430 | Apr 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Secret Government | http://www.wanttoknow.info/050423secretgovernment | Apr 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Government - Part I | http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3281.htm | Apr 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - NOW with Bill Moyers. Transcript. Secret Government. 4.05.02 | PBS | http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_secretgov.html | Apr 11 15:44 |
| ender_nothome | margaret thatcher talked about the parellel governement, where all the people in government go after their public terms | Apr 11 15:45 |
| ender_nothome | well not all, but the big shots | Apr 11 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | thatcher and ragean LOL... bad times indeed | Apr 11 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | Reagan is like Arnold Schwarzenegger as US president | Apr 11 15:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CyanogenMod 7.0 Released! http://bit.ly/fBtEj0 | Apr 11 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The quiet rise of machine learning • by Jenn Webb http://ping.fm/5aNnB | Apr 11 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Marcin Juszkiewicz: #Cyanogenmod7 released http://goo.gl/diN68 !android | Apr 11 15:46 | |
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| schestowitz | And the UK is back to living on credit cards and benefit | Apr 11 15:46 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cyanogenmod7 released – Marcin Juszkiewicz .::. Size~: 29.43 KB | Apr 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | I have friends here with Masters degrees who can't get any job | Apr 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Not even cleaning places up... that's how bad it is | Apr 11 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | and then they become rockstars! | Apr 11 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Hi, jono | Apr 11 15:47 |
| jono | hey schestowitz | Apr 11 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Tim plugged you into the latest episode of techbytes IIRC | Apr 11 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the one before that | Apr 11 15:48 |
| ender_nothome | I plugged him too | Apr 11 15:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @corenominal: Checking out @fabsh's and @methoddan's schematics: http://muppy.org/0y -- oo-er missus | Apr 11 15:49 | |
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| schestowitz | JonoMeme{tm} | Apr 11 15:49 |
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| ender_nothome | I used one of his songs and threw in voice clips of david suzuki, the owner of the world bank, steven harper and our minister of environment | Apr 11 15:50 |
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| schestowitz | you make it sound like david suzuki owns Harper :-) | Apr 11 15:51 |
| ender_nothome | how so? | Apr 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Semantics | Apr 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | "david suzuki, the owner of the world bank" | Apr 11 15:52 |
| ender_nothome | its just david suzuki saying 'climate change' | Apr 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | I lul'ed | Apr 11 15:52 |
| ender_nothome | noooo | Apr 11 15:52 |
| ender_nothome | AND the owner of the world bank | Apr 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | who's he now? | Apr 11 15:52 |
| ender_nothome | I already forgot | Apr 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Where can I use a World Bank ATM? :-) | Apr 11 15:52 |
| ender_nothome | ah it was LORD Nicholas Stern | Apr 11 15:54 |
| schestowitz | World Bank teller: "we're sorry, we don't accept cash here. We only accept slave labour." | Apr 11 15:54 |
| ender_nothome | former chief economist of the world bank | Apr 11 15:54 |
| schestowitz | oh LORD | Apr 11 15:54 |
| ender_nothome | The former Chief Economist at the World Bank has said that if the world doesn.t deal in a heroic way to reduce emissions, the consequences of climate change are economically catastrophic. The risk to humanity from climate change is second only to the threat of nuclear war. | Apr 11 15:54 |
| schestowitz | What a "successful" guy | Apr 11 15:54 |
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| schestowitz | But WB doesn't belong in climatology | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | That's what I don't like | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | There *is* human-caused warming | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | But the way it's addressed is controversial | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Keep those oligarchs out | Apr 11 15:55 |
| ender_nothome | the world bank is there and its not surprising | Apr 11 15:55 |
| ender_nothome | austerity for all | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | They try to make money from a real problem and overplay it to "sell" | Apr 11 15:55 |
| ender_nothome | to save the planet | Apr 11 15:55 |
| ender_nothome | we make everyone poor | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Wanna save the planet? Expose what IMF and WB do... | Apr 11 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Then you can help stave off some starvation | Apr 11 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why XP is like a Bunsen burner - Spannerman's Edublog http://ping.fm/tBvEC | Apr 11 15:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Libraries Must Not Harvest Paywalled News Sites - http://bit.ly/gCRbNA guaranteeing future oblivion for any paywalled publication | Apr 11 15:56 | |
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| schestowitz | !google goldman profit africa kauffman | Apr 11 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Goldman Sachs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldman_Sachs | Apr 11 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Economist's View: Dean Baker: TARP's Gift to Goldman-Sachs | http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2011/03/dean-baker-tarps-gift-to-goldman-sachs.html | Apr 11 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Another View: A Victory for the Rule of Law - NYTimes.com | http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/another-view-a-victory-for-the-rule-of-law/ | Apr 11 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Goldman Sachs: Power and Peril - CNBC | http://www.cnbc.com/id/37274104/ | Apr 11 15:56 |
| ender_nothome | I find it hilarious that they'll say we need to save peoples lives and then harp about depopulation the next day | Apr 11 15:56 |
| schestowitz | they're right | Apr 11 15:57 |
| ender_nothome | they aren't saving anyone | Apr 11 15:57 |
| schestowitz | We need to reduce population size, over time | Apr 11 15:57 |
| ender_nothome | they are | Apr 11 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Why are you against that? | Apr 11 15:57 |
| ender_nothome | its called pretending to save people while you cash in | Apr 11 15:57 |
| schestowitz | They don't try to kill people, you know? | Apr 11 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Actually, no, you're wrong | Apr 11 15:57 |
| schestowitz | If they wanted more money, they'd encourage population growth | Apr 11 15:58 |
| ender_nothome | look at code red and the red cross efforts in japan | Apr 11 15:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Sony's Tim Bird opens up #ELC in about an hour. Full schedule here: http://bit.ly/god3cV #linux #embedded | Apr 11 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Hard Knocks while I prepare more stuff for the show.... | Apr 11 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tasting the Delights of OrangeHRM - http://bit.ly/eYibHq #opensource #HRM - already 5 years old | Apr 11 15:58 | |
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| schestowitz | Bar the risk of anarchy in face of hunger of misery, the more people they have, the more loans they can give to enslave families | Apr 11 15:58 |
| schestowitz | So for them to reduce family sizes makes no business sense | Apr 11 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I think that part of their operation is altruistic and sane | Apr 11 15:58 |
| schestowitz | But it's not their business to get into | Apr 11 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Same with criminals like Gates | Apr 11 15:58 |
| ender_nothome | they are running out of time | Apr 11 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I don't care how much PR he buys, crazy hateful people like him should not manage this | Apr 11 15:59 |
| ender_nothome | the non-human caused catastrophies are going to start happening | Apr 11 15:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Introducing Mixbus And The Ardour3 Alpha on Linux Journal By Dave Phillips http://ping.fm/8CgwW | Apr 11 15:59 | |
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| schestowitz | Running out of time, how? | Apr 11 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe only in the sense that generation spans about 25 years | Apr 11 16:00 |
| ender_nothome | they're already building underground bunkers, seed vaults and sequencing the dna of every species they can get their hands on | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | And for reverse-baby boomers it's like 80 yars now | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Meaning that to halve the population can take longer than peak oil arriving | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | ender_nothome: not for them | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | For all of us | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | The latter things | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Not the bunkers | Apr 11 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Actually, Manchester still has an underground city from the Cold war era | Apr 11 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @csarven: Pretty annoying to see .DS_Store crap coming from every Mac OS. I consider that as desktop system spamming from #Apple | Apr 11 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] FSF: Internet user arrested for linking to other websites http://ping.fm/B6C0E | Apr 11 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A quantum hybrid computer (Physics): http://bit.ly/fBb4qy | Apr 11 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The quest for new materials: Can any insulator become topological? (Nanowerk): http://bit.ly/hdEj0l | Apr 11 16:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do I Have Bad Karma for Debian? http://ur1.ca/3ttp1 #debian #gnu #linux | Apr 11 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Jon Brodkin, Network World: Novell patent sale to shield Microsoft, Apple, EMC and Oracle from lawsuits http://ping.fm/7Hr7L | Apr 11 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Features in #digiKam 2.0: Face Recognition http://ur1.ca/3ttp5 #kde | Apr 11 16:04 | |
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| ender_nothome | theres a working quantum cpu with 14 qubits | Apr 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Woah | Apr 11 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Topological Phase Transition and Texture Inversion in a Tunable Topological Insulator (Science): http://bit.ly/hLwzsj | Apr 11 16:06 | |
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| schestowitz | people don't help wikis much. | Apr 11 16:07 |
| schestowitz | I wish more people helped TR's wiki | Apr 11 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Banshee 2.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/banshee-2-0-released/ | Apr 11 16:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache Camel: Integration Nirvana (D Zone, 2009): http://bit.ly/iih7k2 | Apr 11 16:14 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, xjasonx | Apr 11 16:15 |
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| xjasonx | Alex_Gaynor> Hi, I'm one of the developers of PyPy, and I'm looking into adding pinning support to our GC (so we can e.g. write() a string without creating a seperate buffer), I saw that mono's GC (S-gen I suppose?) supports pinning and was wondering if there was any technical documentation on how this is implemented? | Apr 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Hm... | Apr 11 16:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New plan for NZ: Software Patents NO, but when embedded OK. http://ur1.ca/3ttq3 #notgood #swpat | Apr 11 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Symbian Not Open Source Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/symbian-not-open-source/ | Apr 11 16:16 | |
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| xjasonx | scary that PyPy dev is going to Mono devs | Apr 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Are you sure there's no preceding engagement? | Apr 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Like Mono devs offering to help him? | Apr 11 16:17 |
| xjasonx | seems like he's there for the first time | Apr 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | .NET is like a virus that needs to spread for its assured survival | Apr 11 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How is SSL hopelessly broken? http://bit.ly/f3yuYH | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Symbian Not Open Source Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/symbian-not-open-source/ | Apr 11 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Intel prepares tablet processors, Atom Oak Trail (Register): http://bit.ly/fhBXTH | Apr 11 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UK Police Arrest Three Men Over #SpyEye Malware ≈ Packet Storm http://ping.fm/0pZgW | Apr 11 16:19 | |
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| schestowitz | xjasonx: not much we can do then | Apr 11 16:19 |
| schestowitz | It would be tactless to give pypy hassle if it wasn't mono developers seeking to derail their progress | Apr 11 16:20 |
| xjasonx | it's possible they went to PyPy devs first, and that introduction was just introducing himself (in case they didn't recognize him) | Apr 11 16:21 |
| xjasonx | still, it's dangerous for PyPy to start using Mono codes | Apr 11 16:22 |
| xjasonx | might get sued for patent infringement | Apr 11 16:22 |
| xjasonx | at the very least it's helping to spread the mono disease | Apr 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | mono has Microsoft code in it | Apr 11 16:23 |
| schestowitz | !google ms-pl mono microsoft | Apr 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft MS-PL code in Mono - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Jul-07.html | Apr 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - FAQ: Licensing - Mono | http://www.mono-project.com/Licensing | Apr 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - News - Main Page - Mono | http://www.mono-project.com/news/ | Apr 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Free (MS-PL) and OSS Math/Numerical Library for .Net/Mono ... | http://coolthingoftheday.blogspot.com/2009/04/free-ms-pl-and-oss-mathnumerical.html | Apr 11 16:23 |
| schestowitz | So pypy could further pollute an underlying framework FOSS applications depend on with Microsoft code that has Microsoft licensing | Apr 11 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Anonymous Takes on Sony http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/anonymous-takes-on-sony/ | Apr 11 16:24 | |
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| schestowitz | Has anyone contacted Alex_Gaynor to inquire? | Apr 11 16:25 |
| xjasonx | I haven't | Apr 11 16:25 |
| xjasonx | he's on gimpnet | Apr 11 16:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/alex_gaynor | Apr 11 16:25 |
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| xjasonx | if you want to ask him | Apr 11 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I'll tweet him | Apr 11 16:25 |
| xjasonx | ok | Apr 11 16:26 |
| xjasonx | interesting... | Apr 11 16:26 |
| xjasonx | he follows migueldeicaza | Apr 11 16:26 |
| schestowitz | ]https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/57464779710803968 | Apr 11 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: @alex_gaynor IMHO, approaching #mono is risky for #pypy as Mono depends on MS-PL-licensed code from #Microsoft and the MCP has #swpats holes | Apr 11 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Let's see if he responds | Apr 11 16:27 |
| xjasonx | ok | Apr 11 16:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh yep! And what about the millions they have received for becoming the "European mobile platform" or whatever? #fail | Apr 11 16:28 | |
| xjasonx | I have to head out to a dr.'s apt, but will check up on his twitter to see if he responds | Apr 11 16:29 |
| xjasonx | good luck | Apr 11 16:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME 3 rocks! http://ur1.ca/3ttsu #gnu #linux | Apr 11 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Graduated from Hard Knocks... got the bumps and bruises to prove it" #Cocker #AwesomeVoice | Apr 11 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @evan: Unity 2011 == WindowMaker 1998 | Apr 11 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Zeitgeist Developers Working on Gnome Intergration for 3.2 http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/zeitgeist-devs-working-on-intergration/ | Apr 11 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #mobbyists still try to "send a jab" in {Microsoft_opponent}'s way http://ur1.ca/3ttta #groklaw #smear #defamation #pr #swpats | Apr 11 16:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Minecraft Makes Millions, Will Leave Beta This Year http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/minecraft-makes-millions/ | Apr 11 16:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You've got to love how #Novell employees libel !techrights and yours truly, as well as incite sites against opposition http://ur1.ca/3tttw | Apr 11 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Drizzle tale: a fork that's growing http://ur1.ca/3tttx #db #mysql | Apr 11 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Project Harmony decloaks http://lwn.net/Articles/437734/rss | Apr 11 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chrisjung: Beim Uninstall von OpenOffice.org als Grund "Oracle" angegeben #freudedeskleinenmannes | Apr 11 16:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Corbet takes apart Harmony. ♺ @lwnnet: [$] Project Harmony decloaks http://lwn.net/Articles/437734/rss | Apr 11 16:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What the equivalent for Singapore? http://wheretheystand.ca/ #sgelection | Apr 11 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MySQL Server 5.6.2 (Milestone Release) released: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/ | Apr 11 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Groklaw is Shutting Down http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/groklaw-is-shutting-down/ | Apr 11 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Groklaw is Shutting Down http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/groklaw-is-shutting-down/ | Apr 11 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My interview (in Italian) is available for download/stream http://www.radio.rai.it/podcast/A7614128.mp3 (from min 43:15) | Apr 11 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Larry Page Shakes Up Execs at Google http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/larry-page-shakes-up-execs/ | Apr 11 17:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Today's news from #ELC: Renesas Electronics joins Linux Foundation: http://bit.ly/hYeF31 | Apr 11 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse | Apr 11 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ties That Bind.... | Apr 11 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Well I got some beer and the highway's free / And I got you, and baby you've got me. | Apr 11 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now there's girls melting on the beach / And they're so fine but so far out of reach / Cause I'm stuck in traffic down here on 53rd street | Apr 11 17:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] New Skype Beta http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/new-skype-beta/ | Apr 11 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck. Sony settled with Geohot. Well done, Anonymous! :D | Apr 11 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @splitbrain: Link: Probably the most German food ever - http://bit.ly/eiJN9g | Apr 11 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I've been having an arts&crafts break... making a 3d castle cake AND sewing a princess puppet for my niece's blowout birthday | Apr 11 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Industry Min. Tony Clement was lobbied by Canada Foundation for Innovation on Mar. 03 http://bit.ly/dP53o2 | Apr 11 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Intel's @dhohndel delivering keynote on @yoctoproject #ELC | Apr 11 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Some thoughts about NS http://wp.me/pj2fj-pE #sgelection | Apr 11 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kevan: popey "This afternoon I plan to finalise the #oggcamp venue. More details this evening on #linuxoutlaws and tomorrow on #UUPC :) " | Apr 11 17:34 | |
| ender_nothome | http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/haarp-website-goes-down-call-907-450-8300-to-complain/ | Apr 11 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is the princess puppet I made... i have so many needle pricks in my fingers typing is a little painful http://ur1.ca/3tu0x | Apr 11 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gay and straight gamers upset at Bioware for #DragonAgeII. You just can't win, can you? Grow a fucking pair, people.... | Apr 11 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter no I haven't had a chance to read it yet. Sounds like it's made to order for me. | Apr 11 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Closed-source software also fails to give businesses the freedoms that make them competitive. There's a convergence point :-) | Apr 11 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Colony near to my house has attacked on neighbor colony and big noice is coming. F-block, Malviya Nagar, Sitting with blackout in my room :( | Apr 11 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] rd @evan: Unity 2011 == WindowMaker 1998 | Apr 11 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://yoctoproject.org/about -- Wow! More marketing babble nonspeak wasn't possible, you nitwits? | Apr 11 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 50 years ago today, Yuri Gagarin circled the earth! Wow! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Gagarin | Apr 11 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Yocto 1.0 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/yocto-1-0-released/ | Apr 11 17:48 | |
| schestowitz | There's this really annoying kde behaviour | Apr 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe someone can help me | Apr 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Basically, when one move from one screen to another the wm decided to get out of full-screen mode | Apr 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | in both flash and in ogg too | Apr 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Firefox ogv | Apr 11 17:49 |
| ender_nothome | I got hundreds of pdfs that I need to organize | Apr 11 17:49 |
| ender_nothome | does anyone have recommendations for tagging and organizing them? | Apr 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | And this means I can't view anything in full screen while doing another thing | Apr 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | I tried for ages to get around it, sometimes it works with a trick, but not anymore | Apr 11 17:49 |
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| ender_nothome | looks like BibDesk might be an option | Apr 11 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. "Vatican Publication Praises Classic Hacker Culture" - FTW! http://ur1.ca/3tu36 | Apr 11 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh `drtt | Apr 11 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh Settlement agreed in principle on March 31st. Anonymous were late to the game. :) | Apr 11 17:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vatican Publication Praises Classic Hacker Culture - Alex Knapp - Robot Overlords - Forbes .::. Size~: 103.98 KB | Apr 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like bibtex | Apr 11 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #YouTube has hit a fatal error - it started flooding visitors with unwanted ads recently (cannot be skipped), some are /very/ annoying too | Apr 11 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Listening to !lo 200: I'm so glad you're talking about the microphones; I can't listen to other podcasts since your quality is so good | Apr 11 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh ha! less system dependence would be a good thing, and I'm sure @jonkulp would appreciate opening links in heybuddy_on_winderz | Apr 11 17:54 | |
| ender_nothome | nvm its for mac | Apr 11 17:54 |
| ender_nothome | I got like hundreds of conspiracy related pdfs I want to sort into catagories, some cover multiple catagories | Apr 11 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra You disappoint me. Freedom hater. In a week, !heybuddy will support Twitter. I can see it now. :D | Apr 11 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] the coffee has been drunk http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110411 #sip_and_click | Apr 11 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 Well, TWiT can compete... ;) | Apr 11 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Mozilla Kills Support for Gecko Embedding http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/mozilla-kills-gecko-embedding/ | Apr 11 17:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] if USER == '@fabsh': do_fucked_up_shit(random=True) | Apr 11 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Like cats.... they seem to want more head attention... where dogs want more body attention. | Apr 11 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I can always switch to identicurse in a pinch..... ;) | Apr 11 17:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Geohot Settles http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/geohot-settles/ | Apr 11 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh I'll clarify: I can't listen to podcasts that sound like shit ;) You guys sound professional (at least wrt sound quality) | Apr 11 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Adobe, Zend combine Flash and PHP development (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/gS9Uyj | Apr 11 18:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70830429 | Apr 11 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 16:57:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz youtube has ads? | Apr 11 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | if it has annoying ads, it's not worth using | Apr 11 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't come across many that Adblock Plus doesn't remove anyway | Apr 11 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | until I do, Youtube isn't a problem | Apr 11 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Come on, come on, little sugar dance with your daddy / We're going ramrodin' tonight | Apr 11 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/4/2011: CentOS 5.6, Fedora 15 RC1 http://ur1.ca/3tu6h !techrights | Apr 11 18:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/4/2011: CentOS 5.6, Fedora 15 RC1 http://ur1.ca/3tu6h #techrights | Apr 11 18:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it is an odd difference in how we treat cats and dogs, were dogs just stupid enough to accept a lead? or cats smart enough to refuse one? | Apr 11 18:21 | |
| ender_nothome | I can only find proprietary stuff | Apr 11 18:26 |
| ender_nothome | an alternative could be getting pdf2text working with kde's search database program | Apr 11 18:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh next peeps will be wanting 7.1 for group shows with 7 people | Apr 11 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wish this was available widely in SG - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/04/bike-hanger-parks-bikes-on-the-sides-of-buildings/ | Apr 11 18:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Situation is normal now ! (Under Control) : Police says so :) | Apr 11 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Wreck on the Highway" is such a sad song..... !Bruce | Apr 11 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] And so the #Geohot smear stories begin? http://ow.ly/4xM9h | Apr 11 18:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Josh Halliday: #CPS under attack over #BT and #Phorm's covert online monitoring http://ping.fm/zCfVS | Apr 11 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Adobe moves to subscription model with Creative Suite 5.5 (Ars): http://bit.ly/fQgVH8 | Apr 11 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The LO pre-show should commence in about an hour. We're running quite a backlog... See you there: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live | Apr 11 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Christian Science Monitor: New findings suggest that dinosaurs had lice http://ping.fm/xlw41 | Apr 11 18:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Geohot Settles /by @fabsh « Sad news really http://ping.fm/WJBK1 | Apr 11 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] A song for @joshix: Racing in the Street ('78) | Apr 11 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @lxnews I was interested to read this thread, but I guess there's nothing left to say :( | Apr 11 18:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Patent reform bills with little reform http://bit.ly/hkoLjh | Apr 11 18:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Anonymous Plans #Sony #Boycott on April 16 http://ping.fm/uoaDv | Apr 11 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft working on cross-platform OS - Rumour - StrategyEye http://ping.fm/AEWOr | Apr 11 18:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On that note, very powerful version of The Promise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrhOBKXRU4Y -- nearly as good as Berlin 2002 | Apr 11 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Skype Beta /by @fabsh http://ping.fm/7D97G | Apr 11 18:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Shit. Half an hour before the podcast, the batteries in my mouse die..... X/ | Apr 11 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 76 million downloads on 2011-04-11 17:47 UTC | Apr 11 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Asus thumbs its nose at #Google, releases partial #Honeycomb source code • by Brad McCarty http://ping.fm/S8Vee | Apr 11 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Human Resources Min. Diane Finley lobbied by Automotive Industries Association of Canada on Jan. 13 http://bit.ly/gLJ4JU | Apr 11 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JesseBrown: Doesn't anyone want the Geek Vote? #elxn41 http://macleans.ca/jessebrown - be fools if they don't. | Apr 11 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] BTW #BAcksliders, having Nathan Adamson produce this record, instead of Glyn Johns, was total genius | Apr 11 18:53 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all! | Apr 11 18:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Guess nobody is talkative here | Apr 11 19:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but you know that has never stopped me, lol | Apr 11 19:00 |
| MinceR | o hai | Apr 11 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Groklaw is Shutting Down «» Bloody hell @fabsh, it's all bad news from you today http://ping.fm/JhxZ8 | Apr 11 19:01 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Topic I would like to discuss is, MS continuing decline, WP7 failure with regard to Nokia, and MS shill research sites providing ammunition for us | Apr 11 19:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi MinceR | Apr 11 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. linuxoutlaws.com had 15K uniques in March. | Apr 11 19:03 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/microsoft_news/229401337 | Apr 11 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gartner: Microsoft MIA In Tablets Through 2015 -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 84.21 KB | Apr 11 19:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Gartner predicts Apple's iOS will hold 47.1% of the tablet market by 2015, down from the 83.9% stake it currently holds as rival Google picks up its efforts. Google Android's share will increase from its current 14.2% stakes to 38.6%, according to Gartner." | Apr 11 19:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Third place belongs to Research In Motion's QNX operating system, which will power the company's new PlayBook tablet. Gartner expects that QNX will hold a share of 10% by 2015 as the PlayBook makes a dent in the business market. Hewlett-Packard's WebOS is projected at fourth place, with an expected market share of 3%, while the open source MeeGo OS is fifth at 1%." | Apr 11 19:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "That Gartner does not expect Microsoft to be a top-five player in tablets, even by 2015, is significant in that it shows the firm is skeptical about the software maker's plans for slates, which have suffered a number of setbacks." | Apr 11 19:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Slates, Tablets, whatever you want to call them, Microsoft is not going to be a player according to Garner which is usually very MS friendly. | Apr 11 19:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "But with Microsoft sending messages to the market that are sporadic and at times seemingly contradictory?it's also said it plans to introduce tablets that run on Intel's Oak Trail chip, which will ship this year?the company may find it difficult to recruit hardware partners and developers to whatever tablet platform it finally does produce." | Apr 11 19:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So there is it, if we read between the lines of what Gartner is saying. MS will only be a factor on Slates/Tablets maybe on Intel chips, and on ARM will be a complete bust. | Apr 11 19:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Intel will likely fail as well on Slates/Tablets. | Apr 11 19:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But this next like has more hidden meaning | Apr 11 19:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/desktop_mobile/windows_phone_7_numbers_that_actually_matter.html | Apr 11 19:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Watch - Desktop & Mobile - Windows Phone 7 Numbers That Actually Matter .::. Size~: 44.95 KB | Apr 11 19:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Help RDTN.org make available nuclear radiation data from Japan via #CC0! This & more at http://www.kickstarter.com/creativecommons | Apr 11 19:09 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "IDC also released a mildly controversial note earlier this week, suggesting that Windows Phone 7 would overtake both Research In Motion's BlackBerry franchise and Apple's iOS by 2015, largely thanks to its partnership with Nokia. Personally, I had reservations with that report's opacity; without knowing the inputs or data that went into IDC's predictive analysis, it's difficult to take at face value the firm's rather | Apr 11 19:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | precise predictions of, say, Windows Phone holding 20.9 percent of the market four years from now. Nor does IDC's report acknowledge the obvious uncertainties in making such predictions." | Apr 11 19:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IDC is definatly friendly or maybe paid off by MS is the better words. | Apr 11 19:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *definately | Apr 11 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat's Future Linux Desktop http://is.gd/jLL75s #redhat #desktop #linux #gnu | Apr 11 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] City of #Munich receives European Document Freedom Day Prize http://is.gd/BJdlUL #odf #office #msoffice | Apr 11 19:13 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | What is interesting about the 20.9% of Windows Phone holding the market share prediction, is the fast that Windows phone (WP7 & Mobile) now hold somewhere near 3 to 5% of the worlds phone share. Which means thanks to the Nokia partnership, that they only gain 15%. | Apr 11 19:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gainly 15% is most unlikely. But consider the implications for Nokia, which did hold close to 33% of the market. It means that Nokia will lose half its share thanks to embracing Microsoft software. | Apr 11 19:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And this by a research site (IDC) that is most likely (paid by MS?) painting the very best, but highly unlikely outcome for MS. | Apr 11 19:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Researchers say open source lowers costs, increases security http://is.gd/hkZB6T #gnu #linux | Apr 11 19:16 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But then again, IDC is only looking at its cystal ball and forecasting the future. Mine shows a vastly differnet world where Elop leaves Nokia and the deal with MS goes away at some point when Nokia is a smaller company. | Apr 11 19:17 |
| MinceR | i doubt that will allow mokia to leave the Death Spiral | Apr 11 19:18 |
| MinceR | they had to innovate to stay relevant; they decided to make a deal with m$ instead | Apr 11 19:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It is not wise to partner or to be the corporate raided target of MS, like both Yahoo and Nokia stories are playing out. | Apr 11 19:18 |
| MinceR | so they're doomed | Apr 11 19:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most likely MinceR | Apr 11 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] MEPs want Commission to disclose details of proprietary software deal http://is.gd/rxKBQH #egovt #linux #free #gnu | Apr 11 19:19 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | it depends on how deeply the raiding took place, we know that MS friendly people recently got on the Nokia board, and other board members where probably bought out. | Apr 11 19:19 |
| *_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Apr 11 19:21 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | A Microsoft "partnership" like that of Nokia or Yahoo would be more like the partnership of a vampire and its victum, with MS sucking all the life blood out of its partner. | Apr 11 19:21 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Im back....and Wired! | Apr 11 19:21 |
| _Goblin | hi chips! long time no type! | Apr 11 19:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi Goblin! | Apr 11 19:21 |
| _Goblin | when you coming on the show..... | Apr 11 19:22 |
| _Goblin | ???? | Apr 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/70830429 | Apr 11 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Monday, 11-Apr-11 16:57:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz youtube has ads? | Apr 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I have an extension that's supposed to block it | Apr 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Apr 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy :-) | Apr 11 19:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi Roy | Apr 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | brb | Apr 11 19:22 |
| _Goblin | its good to see you Chips, youve been as elusive as a bootle of Deodourant in Ballmers bathroom | Apr 11 19:22 |
| _Goblin | *bottle | Apr 11 19:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | been busy lately | Apr 11 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ODF 1.2 is approved as a Committee Specification http://is.gd/t921ZA #opendocument #odf #standard #microsoft #office #lo | Apr 11 19:24 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy nice article on Google Android compared to GNU. I support Google Android/Chrome only because it might help GNU later on and reduce the market share of MS and Apple. | Apr 11 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | [19:03] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Gartner: Microsoft MIA In Tablets Through 2015 -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 84.21 KB | Apr 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | What is their method | Apr 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Can they predict The future? nonesense. They have poor track record, all PR. | Apr 11 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Outlaws are live: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live !linuxoutlaws | Apr 11 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And we're off! :D | Apr 11 19:26 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | True, but isn't it interesting that there forecase is so bad for Nokia? | Apr 11 19:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *forecast | Apr 11 19:26 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <Chips_B_Malroy> And this by a research site (IDC) that is most likely (paid by MS?) painting the very best, but highly unlikely outcome for MS. | Apr 11 19:26 |
| schestowitz | IDC=IDG=messages for sale | Apr 11 19:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Even Nick thinks they are very optimistic | Apr 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | money comes in, BS comes out | Apr 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | But people won't remember the predictions at the date they call | Apr 11 19:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and Nick himself works for a site that takes MS advertising bucks. | Apr 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | And who's gonna call them on it in 2015? | Apr 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | IDG? | Apr 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | The whole SOMETHINGWorld sites? | Apr 11 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sixgun: The Outlaws are live: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live #linuxoutlaws | Apr 11 19:28 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: we should record now | Apr 11 19:28 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yep | Apr 11 19:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It should be pointed out that if IDC prediction is right, then Nokia would lose more than half of its market share. | Apr 11 19:28 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: i'll just have a smoke and we can dive straight in if you like | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: I was thinking about MSWatch today | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | They are a mess | Apr 11 19:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | It's Mary Jo Microsoft's site | Apr 11 19:28 |
| _Goblin | hey! | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | But she left | Apr 11 19:28 |
| _Goblin | MS Watch are great | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | And they removed attributions | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Then it was all Joe | Apr 11 19:28 |
| schestowitz | But he too is gone | Apr 11 19:28 |
| _Goblin | me and chips would never have met if it wasnt for MS Watch..... | Apr 11 19:29 |
| schestowitz | And now nobody reads it, then Nick from eWeek/Ziff rarely updates anything (Which is out of date anyway, just like Microsoft in the market.. out of date) | Apr 11 19:29 |
| _Goblin | and I probably wouldn't have met you either Roy as I was referred to your site on MS Watch | Apr 11 19:29 |
| schestowitz | They wasted their time | Apr 11 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Newspapers Confirm Digital Death-Wish - http://bit.ly/hWD3rO the #copyright canker strikes again #paywalls #posterity | Apr 11 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | Now we get some Groklaw readers too | Apr 11 19:29 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, we still have not met yet Goblin, till you get over here on this side of the pond. | Apr 11 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Not that I think Groklaw's situation is of any good now for the community | Apr 11 19:29 |
| _Goblin | or you come here chips....Roys visited my house....wheres your excuse? ;) | Apr 11 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Vagas in bad state financially | Apr 11 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I heard from a Polish mate the other day that houses in Vegas sell for like 100k with a pool | Apr 11 19:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | You will be replacing Groklaw in all probability as the best source of real imformation if they stop. | Apr 11 19:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Anyway, your site has more articles than Groklaw ever did. | Apr 11 19:31 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 11 19:32 |
| schestowitz | 13,000 this week | Apr 11 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Prepare for a post celebrating this | Apr 11 19:32 |
| schestowitz | TBH I have less time for TR now | Apr 11 19:32 |
| schestowitz | So it slowed down | Apr 11 19:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm programming on desktop 8, denting when I wait for runtime/compile to finish, occasionally do articles | Apr 11 19:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin, everyone comes to Vegas once for a vacation. | Apr 11 19:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | You can join our Linux breakfast group at one of the Casino buffets. | Apr 11 19:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, what is TBH? | Apr 11 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/437892/rss | Apr 11 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity 3.8.6 Brings Option To Configure Launcher Reveal Mode, More [Video] http://goo.gl/pqDOJ !u | Apr 11 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Groklaw is Shutting Down http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/groklaw-is-shutting-down/ | Apr 11 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Minecraft Makes Millions, Will Leave Beta This Year http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/minecraft-makes-millions/ | Apr 11 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Zeitgeist Developers Working on Gnome Intergration for 3.2 http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/zeitgeist-devs-working-on-intergration/ | Apr 11 19:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Symbian Not Open Source Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/symbian-not-open-source/ | Apr 11 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Mozilla Kills Support for Gecko Embedding http://lxnews.org/2011/04/11/mozilla-kills-gecko-embedding/ | Apr 11 19:36 | |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: to be honest | Apr 11 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/57504099180089345 | Apr 11 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: http://lwn.net/Articles/437916/ "all those people can now head over to boycott-novell and continue to harass the productive members [...]" | Apr 11 19:37 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: right....back.... | Apr 11 19:38 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: I may just take you up on that.....I have a cowboy hat....I would fit in well over at Vegas at a roulette wheel! | Apr 11 19:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> True, but they will mistake you for a Texan | Apr 11 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sex trafficking victim wins substantial damages from Home Office - http://bit.ly/e4uAYN staggering failure by UK authorities | Apr 11 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge to #copyright #troll: your "business model" isn't my problem - http://bit.ly/h7hOjf clear enough? | Apr 11 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Speakeasy happy hour returns to SF! Current members: watch for your email invite on Tuesday. https://eff.org/r.39t | Apr 11 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Natty update jamboree: theme and icon tweaks, new launcher behaviour http://goo.gl/9tI67 | Apr 11 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sad thing was that the soccer league here was co-ed and then they split it after my son so there is a girls league & boys league | Apr 11 19:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal: Help Shape maps.ubuntu.com http://goo.gl/9qXUx !u | Apr 11 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Maia Grotepass: !Ubuntu #Natty Release Party poster draught http://goo.gl/iJjT6 | Apr 11 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon built Top 500 #supercomputer in its own cloud - http://bit.ly/gICYVN running #linux, like the other 91% of top 500 machines | Apr 11 19:44 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I would have thought that PJ would continue at least until the SCO bankrupcy case is done. | Apr 11 19:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I do think that the new trend of gender separation is manufacturer driven. Thank you MacDonalds for "girl toys" and "boy toys" | Apr 11 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And the media follows meekly because they derive their income as much from merchandising | Apr 11 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter i don't think it's from the kids at all. it comes from the adults. | Apr 11 19:49 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I like when I turn turn around the predictions of IDC and Gartner and show how bad they really are for MS, in this case for their partner/victum, Nokia. | Apr 11 19:49 |
| ender_nothome | Chips | Apr 11 19:56 |
| ender_nothome | Aren't you Canadian? | Apr 11 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Argh - my son just presented me with conservative propaganda junk mail we got today... !elxn41 !cdnpoli !fed2011 | Apr 11 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...one side unflattering Ignatieff w/hands prayerfully together⇒ 'Election Plan', other studious Harper⇒ "Action Plan' !elxn41 !fed2011 | Apr 11 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BritNed power cable boosts hopes for European supergrid - http://bit.ly/gTqnF7 seems sensible #energy #renewables | Apr 11 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HP to let #Android users print directly from their phone with ePrint - http://bit.ly/hOZK9W seems an obvious thing to offer | Apr 11 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Anyone going from MUC to Berlin tmrw for #RP11? I plan to take the train but am open for other methods :-) re:publica and #UTNR, I am coming | Apr 11 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sony settles with Hotz, remaining defendants dismissed https://eff.org/r.37u | Apr 11 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Trans Pacific Partnership – Negotiators Compile Working IP Draft; #Thailand Invited to Join Negotiations - http://bit.ly/dEC1NQ don't #tpp | Apr 11 20:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] When my niece comes here her favorite toy is my son's honking big transport truck set that Opa made for him when he was her age | Apr 11 20:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh have all sentences that you curse in in german, it sounds better :D | Apr 11 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ossington: Be still, my simplicity-loving heart. Just made a live USB of !crunchbang and am now in love. | Apr 11 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] SCEA was just "protecting their consumers" ♻ @eff: Sony settles with Hotz, remaining defendants dismissed https://eff.org/r.37u | Apr 11 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I like this idea. Wanna be co-host? ;) ♺ @corenominal: @fabsh :( I think a !lo Star Trek special is required! ;) | Apr 11 20:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Hahaha! English is a better language for cursing.... ;) | Apr 11 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Favorite comment: More important things going on in the world than this nonsense anyhow.Such as: will D3 be porting the PSP version of WKC? | Apr 11 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh no way, you can sound way angrier in german ;D | Apr 11 20:19 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ender> sorry I was away on a phone call. No I am not Canadian. Here is Las Vegas | Apr 11 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sys-con. @fosspatents doesn't think they are a dubious company from what I can see. Read for yourself. http://aralbalkan.com/2284 | Apr 11 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Hmmm, war der Werbepodcast für Frank Rieger's und Constanze Kurz' Buch bei @Netzpolitik eigentlich als Dauerwerbesendung gekennzei | Apr 11 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "#Fracking" Shale Gas Emissions Far Worse Than Coal For #Climate - Cornell Study - http://bit.ly/gKeljC get used to it: no easy solution | Apr 11 20:24 | |
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| ender_nothome | ahhh Chips :( | Apr 11 20:26 |
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| ender_nothome | looks like I'll be going to WeAreChange in Hamilton May 2 | Apr 11 20:26 |
| ender_nothome | :) | Apr 11 20:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is awesome: http://twitter.com/fakeselop -- thanks @mossgarden | Apr 11 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Social Networks on Your Desktop: #Seesmic Adds #Elgg Support - http://rww.to/dPI2wc cool #socialnws | Apr 11 20:31 | |
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| Bender | Hi Roy | Apr 11 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO is fun tonight. Great show! | Apr 11 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] You know when you find a really cool song in a video, but it doesnt say what it is? That just happened to me. shit. | Apr 11 20:38 | |
| Bender | there is a slight mistake in the last article | Apr 11 20:38 |
| Bender | there is no Fedora 15 RC1 yet | Apr 11 20:38 |
| Bender | it is a release candidate but for beta | Apr 11 20:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] The internet is the greatest thing ever invented. | Apr 11 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nokia transitions Symbian source to non-open license (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/437953/rss | Apr 11 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] CC @corenominal ♺ @ossington: Inkscape is the big oversight. That, plus Agave and Blender and it would be just about perfect. | Apr 11 20:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia transitions Symbian source to non-open license (ars technica) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.53 KB | Apr 11 20:41 |
| ender_nothome | Bender | Apr 11 20:42 |
| ender_nothome | -_- | Apr 11 20:42 |
| Bender | ? | Apr 11 20:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Up yours Youtube. | Apr 11 20:43 | |
| ender_nothome | 13 year olds often call me Gender Bender | Apr 11 20:43 |
| ender_nothome | LOL | Apr 11 20:43 |
| Bender | hehe | Apr 11 20:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/04/07/businessinsider-microsoft-will-beat-apple-in-mobile-by-2015-says-gartner-2011-4.DTL | Apr 11 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Will Beat Apple In Mobile By 2015, Says Gartner (MSFT, AAPL, GOOG) .::. Size~: 119.09 KB | Apr 11 20:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the Microsoft plan for Tablets, just ignore them: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/ipad-ipad-2-motorola-xoom-blackberry-playbook,news-10701.html | Apr 11 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tablets Perhaps Just A Blip in Time, Says Microsoft .::. Size~: 146.34 KB | Apr 11 20:46 |
| Bender | i love these gartner predictions | Apr 11 20:46 |
| Bender | it's as if we were drinking the same coffee in the morning :) | Apr 11 20:46 |
| Bender | i predict other things from my morning coffee dregs :) | Apr 11 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a lousey prediction by Garner not so much for MS, but for Nokia who has to lose more than half their market share for that to happen. | Apr 11 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I predict Elop will be long gone before that happens. | Apr 11 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apple's AirPort Express Key Cracked; Open iTunes Streaming Ahead? (PC Mag): http://bit.ly/i3BoQt | Apr 11 20:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Ozzy Osborn - Crazy Train <- greatest guitar part ever. | Apr 11 20:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple's AirPort Express Key Cracked; Open iTunes Streaming Ahead? | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 85.71 KB | Apr 11 20:48 |
| Bender | very much possible | Apr 11 20:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But remember the real aim of these preditions, is to keep the dream alive of a windows phone OS and to have people write programs for it and waste their time. | Apr 11 20:49 |
| Bender | vapourware but by proxy ? | Apr 11 20:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yep | Apr 11 20:49 |
| Bender | even if WP7 is any good it is too late too little to be on the market now | Apr 11 20:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://technorati.com/technology/article/microsoft-pessimism-and-why-the-world1/ | Apr 11 20:51 |
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| Bender | but nokia choosing WP7 is a good thing only for M$, they got nothing to lose but it is nokia's last chance | Apr 11 20:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Title: Microsoft Pessimism, and Why the World is Wrong to Dismiss Windows Phone 7 | Apr 11 20:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "For a technology world which has largely dismissed Microsoft as relevant, this hardly made much sense, leading to headlines such as ZDNet's Gartner drinks the 2015 Microsoft-Nokia Kool-Aid too in which Larry Dignan argues that Microsoft will only reach 13% market share, based presumably on his years of experience as a market analyst." | Apr 11 20:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ok, how about 13% minus the 5% that WP7 and Windows Mobile already have, that leaves only about 8% for Nokia Windows Phone, which is a decline for Nokia from 30's% isn't it? | Apr 11 20:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nokia is in real trouble. | Apr 11 20:55 |
| Bender | they were in trouble even before that | Apr 11 20:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not really | Apr 11 20:56 |
| Bender | they were producing too many models, even i was lost in all of them | Apr 11 20:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they still had expanding sales, but not market share | Apr 11 20:56 |
| Bender | so they were growing just as fast as the market? | Apr 11 20:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even if you lose a little market share, you can increase sales of phones due to the fact that the smart phone market is increasing by volume so fast. | Apr 11 20:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Not as fast as the market, but the market grows fast. | Apr 11 20:57 |
| Bender | i wonder how much smartphones constitute to general phones sales :) | Apr 11 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is marjoleink with 98 dents! | Apr 11 20:58 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Consider the sale of PC's every year, it grows by 13% usually | Apr 11 20:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and yet MS sales grow by only 7 or 8% on OEM's hardware. This is my guess, and I don't have the link ready on this one. | Apr 11 20:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I forget just how much the sales of smartphones are increasing yearly, but its probably more than doubling. | Apr 11 21:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So its possible to lose market share on smart phones and still to increase sales, which is where Nokia was before they embaced WP7 | Apr 11 21:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The second thing to consider about Windows Phone OS and Nokia is that WP7 cannot replace Sympion phones as it far too resource heavy to do so. | Apr 11 21:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | By the time that they can, WP8 will be out. | Apr 11 21:03 |
| Bender | oh yeah, i was wondering how they'll put it on cheaper phones :) | Apr 11 21:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP8 may be a completely different beast altogeather. | Apr 11 21:03 |
| Bender | also i've heard they based WP7 on Windows CE kernel | Apr 11 21:03 |
| Bender | slightly modified | Apr 11 21:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP8 might be based on the ARM NT kernel that will be similar to Windows ARM 8. The reason that some people think this is because all recent CE based phone OS'es have been failures. Also MS can cut cost based on using one line of NT kernels. | Apr 11 21:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Yes, WP7 uses a slightly modified CE kernel, as such it is a lie that WP7 is a new completely built from the ground up OS. | Apr 11 21:06 |
| Bender | they wouldn't be able to deliver it so fast | Apr 11 21:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The question is, if Microsoft uses an ARM NT kernel in the next Windows Phone OS, will it be able to port the funky Net/Zune like software written for WP7 to it? | Apr 11 21:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Or will it have to start all over again. | Apr 11 21:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Or will it just break some of the apps. | Apr 11 21:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Like Vista did. | Apr 11 21:08 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | more from the last link: "Today Gartner has weighed in with their 2015 smartphone market share prediction, and much to the amazement and merriment of many opinion makers, they agreed with both Ovum and IDC that Windows Phone will reach around 20% market share over the next few years." | Apr 11 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | 20%? thats it? | Apr 11 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Apr 11 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats a failure | Apr 11 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | especially when the other 80% will be like 2/3 android 1/3 iphone | Apr 11 21:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, for Nokia which had 33% of the market it is a major failure | Apr 11 21:11 |
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| Bender__ | i got a timeout | Apr 11 21:11 |
| Bender__ | damn | Apr 11 21:11 |
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| Bender__ | i lost everything you were sayign after that Chip | Apr 11 21:11 |
| Bender__ | regarding that W8 on ARM, i doubt it will perform well, ARM just doesn't have enough cache to move that cow | Apr 11 21:12 |
| MinceR | it will probably fail | Apr 11 21:12 |
| MinceR | nothing m$ ever hacked up ever scaled | Apr 11 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @corenominal: Breaking news: @methoddan tells all Americans to, "get off my language, you bastards!" !lo :D | Apr 11 21:13 | |
| Bender__ | yeah, that's why WP7 needs so hefy hardware :) | Apr 11 21:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Of course MS will not get 20% of the smart phone market. They have appox 5% now and continue to lose since WP7 came out. | Apr 11 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: I mean, fuck, iphone had like 20% marketshare by the end of the first year | Apr 11 21:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So a 15% increase does nothing for Nokia | Apr 11 21:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And we know it will be lots less than 15% | Apr 11 21:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which becomes major fail for Elop/Nokia | Apr 11 21:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS can't even get updates right for WP7 | Apr 11 21:15 |
| Bender__ | considering their one update rules them all should work flawlessly | Apr 11 21:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @corenominal: Breaking news: @methoddan tells everyone to, "buy some fucking Rathole Radio gig tickets!" !lo http://ratholeradio.org/gig/ | Apr 11 21:16 | |
| Bender__ | with all those "Android fragmentation " talk | Apr 11 21:16 |
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| Bender__ | M$ was never successful on mobile market, why should he be now? | Apr 11 21:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Has anybody noticed that Microsoft has stopped attacking Android as "just another linux."? | Apr 11 21:17 |
| Bender__ | i noticed lately that where ever M$ has a competition it bleeds money to stay relevant | Apr 11 21:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @txt: Judge to copyright troll: your "business model" isn't my problem http://is.gd/TDBezq #fsf #gnu !eol < #sejodan #putoschupopteros | Apr 11 21:18 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | There is a reason for this | Apr 11 21:18 |
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| Bender__ | even Kinect, praised spying tool, they didn't even think of another uses for it | Apr 11 21:18 |
| Bender__ | but later on they pushed SDK for it | Apr 11 21:19 |
| Bender__ | soon after it got hacked | Apr 11 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | As Android takes over one market, if MS gives it publicity as just another linux, then people would look more closely at using GNU/Linux on desktops. | Apr 11 21:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @evan will virtualbox have the hardware acceleration required for gnome3? | Apr 11 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@alek Aaron Straup Cope is master of complicated tech-culture essay, this one on museums and enthusiasts is great http://is.gd/ltesO1 /!cc | Apr 11 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Gnome Shell rocks. | Apr 11 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra The evil Oracle version has AFAIK. | Apr 11 21:23 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/04/07/businessinsider-microsoft-will-beat-apple-in-mobile-by-2015-says-gartner-2011-4.DTL | Apr 11 21:23 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The firm says that Microsoft will ship about 216 Windows Phone handsets in 2015, giving it 19.5% share of the smartphone market. | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | That's great news for Microsoft, which is basically nowhere today, but not so great for Nokia -- Symbian currently has 37.6% market share, so swapping out for Windows Phone will lead to a big net loss in market share. | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Bender__ | it would be better to Nokia to just increase development pace for Meego and go with this | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Apr 11 21:24 |
| Bender__ | with M$ deal they lost control of their software leading to a enterprise lockin for years (if they abandon Meego) | Apr 11 21:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the made the absolute worst choice going with a consumer rejected WP7 | Apr 11 21:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WP7 is already a failure by sales when Elop went with it | Apr 11 21:25 |
| Bender__ | well what do you expect, Elop was probably fighting like a lion to go with his previous employer's software :) | Apr 11 21:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Elop was paid off | Apr 11 21:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | just like the board was | Apr 11 21:26 |
| Bender__ | did he have to be paid off? | Apr 11 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @jezra I think if you install the guest additions, yes. | Apr 11 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh no we're not, warp came out in the early 90's </os2> | Apr 11 21:26 | |
| Bender__ | i mean, i read Microsoft Employment contract | Apr 11 21:26 |
| Bender__ | and it says you can't compete in another company against M$ products | Apr 11 21:26 |
| Bender__ | for a year | Apr 11 21:27 |
| Bender__ | Elop going with Android would be in breach with contract | Apr 11 21:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Of course, there's enough growth for everyone -- even RIM, which will increase its shipments nearly 3x in the next four years, while losing market share." | Apr 11 21:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | You see, you can lose market share in smart phones and still grow. | Apr 11 21:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The question is by how much? With Nokia they are in trouble. | Apr 11 21:29 |
| Bender__ | well, M$ basically paid a good brand | Apr 11 21:29 |
| Bender__ | Nokia is a good brand i Europe | Apr 11 21:29 |
| Bender__ | at least was | Apr 11 21:30 |
| Bender__ | many persons i know said it lost on quality | Apr 11 21:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley #Manning case sparks UN criticism of US government - http://bit.ly/emlqH9 more pressure #torture | Apr 11 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Bradley #Manning case sparks UN criticism of US government - http://bit.ly/emlqH9 more pressure #torture | Apr 11 21:31 | |
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| Bender__ | i wonder how stupid you should be to choose M$ software abandoning years of development and all your known tools like Qt | Apr 11 21:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | are they stupid, or are they looking out for themselves is the question? Have they been bribed? | Apr 11 21:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Agreed it was a stupid decision to use MS software to replace what they had. Nokia was still making money, but was becoming a blue chip stock. | Apr 11 21:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | like MS | Apr 11 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fosspatents IMHO sys-con seems to be a strange setup when you also read http://ur1.ca/3tuwo Not the best reference for Maureen O'Gara ... | Apr 11 21:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Sygic AURA Beta video demo #N900 #Sygic #Maemo http://is.gd/k8ldXy | Apr 11 21:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, just finished recording !Techbytes - Sort of a Groklaw special - The entire cast present also! | Apr 11 21:48 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, Bender__ | Apr 11 21:54 |
| Bender__ | Hi, Roy | Apr 11 21:54 |
| Bender__ | as i was saying :) | Apr 11 21:54 |
| Bender__ | there is no RC1 yet and there never is :) | Apr 11 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Groklaw Defamed by #Microsoft Boosters as Pamela Jones Steps Down Victorious http://ur1.ca/3tuym #android #fud #gnu #linux | Apr 11 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Groklaw Defamed by Microsoft Boosters as Pamela Jones Steps Down Victorious http://ur1.ca/3tuym #swpats #sco #unix #mobbyists | Apr 11 21:54 | |
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| schestowitz | Thanks for the correction, I'll apply it | Apr 11 21:54 |
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| Bender__ | Fedora just has internal RC's for their Alpha Beta and RC releases | Apr 11 21:55 |
| Bender__ | normally there is only Alpha Beta and RC | Apr 11 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Okay, !Pens. Lightning should be doable, right? :D | Apr 11 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] NHL.com's Playoffs 101: http://outl.ws/02 -- can't wait for the Playoffs to start! I love this time of the year!! | Apr 11 21:56 | |
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| schestowitz | Bender__: yes, was baffled about it | Apr 11 21:56 |
| schestowitz | is there a a beta for the beta?? :-) | Apr 11 21:57 |
| Bender__ | no | Apr 11 21:57 |
| Bender__ | just rc's | Apr 11 21:57 |
| Bender__ | if it meets all the release goals then last rc becomes alpha/beta/rc | Apr 11 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Yo Dawg, I release the alpha for the alpha | Apr 11 21:57 |
| Bender__ | every alpha/beta/rc release must meet some goals like no blockers/ability to successfully load live cd etc. | Apr 11 21:58 |
| Bender__ | :) | Apr 11 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Egyptian blogger @MaikelNabil sentenced by military tribunal for criticizing army in blog and on Facebook; @nytimes: https://eff.org/r.43w | Apr 11 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Community SSU version 14 released with a lot of changes! http://is.gd/K1R9X6 #Maemo #N900 #MeeGo #CSSU | Apr 11 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @oggcamp It is official: OggCamp 11 will take place August 13 & 14 at Farnham Maltings in the UK. More info: http://oggcamp.org | Apr 11 22:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Sony Settles PS3 Jailbreaking Lawsuit Against Geohot http://tinyurl.com/6cj5y9u !ps3 !sony | Apr 11 22:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Create Firewall Configurations Easily with Gufw on Ubuntu http://bit.ly/dYGJVz #linux | Apr 11 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh, it looks like I'm going to need an FAQ regarding proprietary audio formats for the PagePlayer project | Apr 11 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Antiporn Indonesian lawmaker caught viewing porn - http://cnet.co/hlsNvC well, of course #indonesia #hypocrisy | Apr 11 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Americas) Peter Kent was lobbied by Ultramar Ltee on Mar. 21 http://bit.ly/gB7MFc | Apr 11 22:21 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I did notice that PJ intends to complete the comes project | Apr 11 22:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there must be more worms to uncover in the comes case | Apr 11 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Disposable, Medical Camera Is the Size of a Grain of Salt - http://bit.ly/enDzrO what could possibly go wrong? #privacy #surveillance | Apr 11 22:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Finnish politics is exciting! Vote Oskar Elmgren - he made a 31 minute porn video to convince u to vote for him: http://is.gd/Sofzn3 | Apr 11 22:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love the new @oggcamp avatar. It was totally worth modelling that in Blender even if it took ages... :) | Apr 11 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] El #derecho de autor no es un Derecho Humano - http://bit.ly/fiIZ6r interesting analysis | Apr 11 22:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nrlucre: Jessica T's LinuxOutlawsGetter worked great, cept I started it after the stream was active. Gotta see if I can make it do ogg to | Apr 11 22:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: NinaPaley.com: Reminder: Please Share Mimi & Eunice http://j.mp/eUol3w | Apr 11 22:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @oggcamp: If you are planning to come to !OggCamp 11, please register so we can plan the event better: http://oggcamp11.eventbrite.com | Apr 11 22:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @themadhatter: sounds good to me... | Apr 11 22:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Fridge: !Ubuntu 8.04 reaches end-of-life on May 12 2011 http://goo.gl/7hTyG | Apr 11 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! Can't wait to meet up in person! ♺ @psquid: Ticket booked for Oggcamp. :) | Apr 11 22:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nice to see Chris Procter's name pop up on the !OggCamp ticket list. The man is on the ball, as usual :) !lo | Apr 11 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Submit your own "Story of Linux." Video contest open NOW. Linus to choose best from community faves: http://bit.ly/f3gLA7 #linux #film | Apr 11 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @FFII no comment http://ur1.ca/3tv48 << Microsoft Florian admits lobbying, see replies | Apr 11 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Loving the new #OggCamping meme that just sprung up in the !LO IRC. :) | Apr 11 22:49 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @verofakto TR: "no distinction between the articles which were based in expertise and those based on naive speculation" http://bit.ly/gx69w0 | Apr 11 22:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @oggcamp: We have a new meme: #OggCamping - taking the "camp" part of !OggCamp literally. | Apr 11 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Genuinely excited about #OggCamp 11 now. This will be an awesome geek weekend again. You need that stuff once a year! :) | Apr 11 22:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Bill "gives unrestricted access to subscriber data records held by telecoms. We are concerned proposed powers not limited in..." | Apr 11 22:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] How on earth has ulitzer.com avoided a class action from those its identity misappropriates? Is it time for one? | Apr 11 22:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/reviews.asp?page=2&revid=4488 << campsite close to !OggCamp 11 venue. | Apr 11 22:56 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I fear that PJ not covering the finial demise of SCO is not a good thing. | Apr 11 22:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The zombie could come back to life without PJ shining the light on it. | Apr 11 22:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | She needs to stick around and wear the Red Dress one more time for that article. | Apr 11 22:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sadly the real article is about the M$ money in the background that lets all these patents trolls sue their competitors. SCO just might have been one of the first cases of this. Now MS is coming out more and more and suing directly, instead of using an army of proxies. | Apr 11 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sony admits that they didn't have a case against GeoHotz, and he was fully within his right to use the product he owns http://ur1.ca/3ttyk | Apr 11 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @oggcamp: The first 50 tickets for !OggCamp 11 have already been reserved: http://oggcamp11.eventbrite.com | Apr 11 23:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Volokh Conspiracy » Leaders’ Debate May be Postponed to Avoid Conflict w/ NHL Playoff Game http://ur1.ca/3tv67 !elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoli | Apr 11 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Freedom Express is coming to #Kazakhstan next http://ur1.ca/3tv6w | Apr 11 23:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What is important to !Canada and who decides? Do Canadians think #NHL more important than democratic concerns? !elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoli | Apr 11 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wow. The #mobbyists sure tweet only about one thing today (except for chat w/ Microsoft MVPs) and it's !techrights - why are they so scared? | Apr 11 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes | Apr 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz | And Florian is helping them | Apr 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz | He's a lobbying | Apr 11 23:11 |
| schestowitz | mobbyist | Apr 11 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Florian is just a 'bigger' MS shill. He is like the people that commented on MS Watch that started off saying they used such and such linux distro | Apr 11 23:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I'm off to bed. See you tomorrow, y'all :) | Apr 11 23:13 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The thing with the better MS Shills is they need a label or title to hide behind. In the case of Florian, his open source site is opposite of what he really stands for, which is lining his pockets with MS money, doing their dirty work. | Apr 11 23:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Florian=M$ Shill with an open source title to trick people. | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/437724/ | Apr 11 23:15 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | He is a complete fake | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | He is | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Empty suit as it's called | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | a | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | lobbyist | Apr 11 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Snake of sorts, but he does a lot of damage | Apr 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Had he not done that, GL and TR would not rebut | Apr 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | he spams journalists, so they quote him | Apr 11 23:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I suspect that our American friends wouldn't schedule the debate opposite a playoff game. !elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoli | Apr 11 23:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Back to #Linux advocacy - lots about that in tonight's !tb episode, which I encode in the background | Apr 11 23:16 | |
| schestowitz | And then he brags to me in Emaiil about how much he's quoted | Apr 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | He pushed it to journalists in huge numbers... 1% success rate would be great for him | Apr 11 23:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is looking for pubilicity, even bad | Apr 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 11 23:16 |
| schestowitz | See the comment he posted | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | And see the replies, more importantly | Apr 11 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | same with Costa and his ink | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | He's like a real FIFA p*** | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Just looking for a goal | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Not to say truths | Apr 11 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is looking for more MS money | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Mouse pads.. | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | "Vista 8" | Apr 11 23:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ask him about his funding | Apr 11 23:17 |
| schestowitz | There's a newer pad | Apr 11 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter This isn't about hockey fans, it is more about broadcasters (corporations) controlling the election.!elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoli | Apr 11 23:18 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Florian's money has to come from somewhere (M$). | Apr 11 23:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | probably through a proxy | Apr 11 23:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then ask why he will not disclose the source | Apr 11 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe TH | Apr 11 23:18 |
| schestowitz | They are partly owned by Microsoft | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | And I told him he got their docs privately | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He had no response | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He evaded it | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | First he said ESR got it too | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they maybe tried using the IBM-hostile ESR (see his own hacker jargon notes) | Apr 11 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter by the by, i've seen Americans insane for sports and I've seen Americans insane for elections, & politics trumps every time. | Apr 11 23:19 | |
| schestowitz | But their more effective lobby came from Florian /ping zoobab | Apr 11 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He did not deny to me that the anti-IBM docs were passed to him privately | Apr 11 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he is just a little more slick than some of the other shills is all | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | by Microsoft-owned (partly) company | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he's rude too | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | And we need to show it | Apr 11 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he has a website? | Apr 11 23:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | who hosts it? | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | e.g. he threatened me twice | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Usually when pressed | Apr 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | And he also curses people, comparing his opposition to mass murderers | Apr 11 23:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | rudeness is a hallmark of the M$ shill, when pressed | Apr 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | He's not a gentleman IOW | Apr 11 23:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | of course not | Apr 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | But few people know him well enough to do him damage, PJ was one of them | Apr 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | And she's exiting | Apr 11 23:21 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | So he's thrilled | Apr 11 23:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he has low self esteem because he really does not believe the lies he tells. | Apr 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | But it pays him | Apr 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | That's the thing | Apr 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | And TBH he's ugly | Apr 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | But that's OT | Apr 11 23:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Being a shill means not telling your opinion, but the one you are paid to | Apr 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | And not part of my argument, ever | Apr 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex calls him onionface | Apr 11 23:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Separate him from his open source credentals every chance in print you can. Meaning they are only something for him to hide behind and really his opinion is opposite of open source. | Apr 11 23:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | of course, do it in a way that questions | Apr 11 23:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | always ask where his money comes from, even ask if from MS | Apr 11 23:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | these are the things to slow him down | Apr 11 23:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the truth will hurt him | Apr 11 23:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Does he have a brick and mortor office? | Apr 11 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reviews: First look at #CrunchBang #Linux 10 http://ur1.ca/3tv8v "just haven't found any task for it." @openbytes likes it | Apr 11 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04: Small issues, big win http://ur1.ca/3tv92 #gnu #linux | Apr 11 23:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 96.63 KB | Apr 11 23:28 |
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| MinceR | brick and mordor office? | Apr 11 23:28 |
| MinceR | quite fitting. | Apr 11 23:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you know, I real building | Apr 11 23:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *a | Apr 11 23:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | makes it a bit easier to track him | Apr 11 23:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | money leaves a trail | Apr 11 23:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @mgeist Bill "gives unrestricted access to subscriber data records held by telecoms. We are concerned proposed powers ... | Apr 11 23:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I managed to cherry pick all the patches I required out of Ubuntu's Oneiric kernel git | Apr 11 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | I may post them as a tarball somewhere as kind of a so it yourself kernel kit for Ubuntu | Apr 11 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | *do | Apr 11 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | they insist on patching the crap out of their kernel but you really only need 5 patches of theirs for 2.6.39 to not be broken in Ubuntu | Apr 11 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Congratulations, 2011 Google Policy Fellows! We are excited to work with Oscar Montezuma this summer. https://eff.org/r.37n | Apr 11 23:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this is all we need, more #US military tech with which to abuse the rest of us http://is.gd/uaZqHS | Apr 11 23:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | British Navy fought the pirates with canon balls and the blunderbuss hehe | Apr 11 23:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] doesn't the US have more needs for spending at home, with education, health etc than yet more projects that turn it into a military bully? | Apr 11 23:38 | |
| DaemonFC | gee, and now all the US has is frickin laser beams B-) | Apr 11 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | where have I seen this before? | Apr 11 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | something like "Commander, tear this ship apart until you find those plans, and bring me the passengers. I want them alive!" | Apr 11 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 11 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Apology accepted *force choke*, Captain jono | Apr 11 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | You are in command now, ADMIRAL MinceR | Apr 11 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 11 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I used to think it may just be me, but look at all the people on Ubuntu Forums with burned beans (banned) for disagreeing with the mods | Apr 11 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Mod: "ZOMG! You're being RUDE!!!!" *ban* | Apr 11 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | now they do it to their own developers too | Apr 11 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's not much of a place to go for technical help anyway | Apr 11 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've found more answers to things that go wrong in Ubuntu by looking at the Debian forums | Apr 11 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Why is xz the new hotness all of a sudden? | Apr 11 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's really slow, the compression is not better than 7zip | Apr 11 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | and both are free software | Apr 11 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | someone was asking me about xz earlier and I said it has the same compression ratio as 7zip only you'll be waiting twice as long for your archive to compress | Apr 11 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | I think 7zip is being shunned because there's also a GPL-licensed program that lets you use it easily on Windows | Apr 11 23:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 38: Thanks for Reaching Out http://ur1.ca/3tvb3 http://ur1.ca/3tvb4 #twitter #groklaw #microsoft | Apr 11 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @themadhatter This isn't about hockey fans, it is about corporations controlling the election.!elxn41 !fed2011 !cdnpoli | Apr 11 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !TechBytes Episode 38: Thanks for Reaching Out http://ur1.ca/3tvb3 http://ur1.ca/3tvb4 #gnu #linux | Apr 11 23:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] #TechBytes Episode 38: Thanks for Reaching Out http://ur1.ca/3tvb3 http://ur1.ca/3tvb4 | Apr 11 23:56 | |
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