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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "A Porsche 911 is just a VW Beetle with a spoiler" #LOLMar 13 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Big Leaders of Congress have Black Money http://ur1.ca/3hy31 Read Comments as article is deleted. corrupt Indian mediaMar 13 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the second day at the BUSC workshop. Keeping an eye on the phone for #fukushima news...Mar 13 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Lessons learned, blogpost by @nearyd http://is.gd/kdLSvi /cc: !kde !gnome #freedesktop #ubuntu #collaborationMar 13 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Safe as Milk  » Blog Archive   » Lessons learned .::. Size~: 105.99 KBMar 13 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Moving to open source would save Dutch government one to four billion http://ur1.ca/3gsba !foss #linuxMar 13 01:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Pestalozzischule http://b1t.it/aJP #4sqMar 13 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: Love flies under the radar http://goo.gl/rS7B0 part 4 of a series of thoughts on the relationship between !Canonical and !GNOME.Mar 13 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Nokia's Loyalty was Worth $1 Billion http://lxnews.org/2011/03/12/nokias-loyalty-was-worth-1-billion/Mar 13 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Never saw anything like it before, but !elmdentica bugs can be registered at http://ur1.ca/3hzm4Mar 13 01:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Just tested !elmdentica trunk and can't reproduce it. U have an old version with a bug or u replied then cleared. !identiverseMar 13 03:06
amarsh04back in a few, investigating kdm issuesMar 13 03:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Not possible yet, sorry. In !elmdentica gag are regexp which if matched on name, screen_name or text will hide that status.Mar 13 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb !elmdentica gag comes from labdamoo gag and is very useful when you don't even want to notice some troll.Mar 13 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb if you see someone in a group spamming about some fubar you don't care, you can just set !elmdentica to gag fubar. Bliss!Mar 13 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb what "basic" features do you mean?Mar 13 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb also, neither #pino nor #choqok are designed for a small screen device, where windows are always maximised.Mar 13 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb What does "basic" features do you mean? !elmdentica actually has some important features #pino and #choqok don't have (like gag)Mar 13 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I hate it when people keep denting all their replies also to a group. if I would feel interested, I would go to the discussion/context!Mar 13 04:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb !elmdentica version is unimportant (use package info). avatar changing is unimportant (and can be done via web)Mar 13 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb attachments are also there, if there is an attachment, it'll show up in status details.Mar 13 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb replying to dents is also there, you're replying.Mar 13 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Good for you, but !elmdentica isn't really oriented towards desktops, so your experience may not be very good :)Mar 13 04:16
schestowitzFor a moment this morning (about half an hour) I thought I had been crackedMar 13 04:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh?Mar 13 04:16
schestowitzTurns out it's just that I set the display not to use all colours!!Mar 13 04:16
sebsebsebI had something like thisMar 13 04:16
sebsebsebuhmm I guess it was last year nowMar 13 04:16
schestowitzI saw some images in my site looking differentMar 13 04:16
sebsebsebDecember or whateverMar 13 04:16
sebsebsebmusic started playing on the computer, butMar 13 04:17
schestowitzSo I went there, checked timestampsMar 13 04:17
sebsebsebI didn't have Flash open or whateverMar 13 04:17
schestowitzAbsolutely baffledMar 13 04:17
sebsebsebno browsers open or whateverMar 13 04:17
schestowitzEventually I saw some other images in other sites looking different and then remembered I had changed the HDMI stuffMar 13 04:17
sebsebsebhadn't gone to any sites with music on either I thought, turns out it was Flash or the proccess of doing the music thoughMar 13 04:17
schestowitzFlash is a messMar 13 04:18
schestowitzAnyway, I'm catching up with mail ATMMar 13 04:18
schestowitzMight post some blog items stating tonightMar 13 04:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb it sure can, possibly better than choqok :) as !elmdentica uses EFL's elm_genlistMar 13 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 04:22
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I am sucked into the world of identica todayMar 13 04:23
schestowitzThat's what I'm afraid of myselfMar 13 04:23
sebsebseboh?Mar 13 04:23
schestowitzPromised to do 40 hours of coding this weekMar 13 04:23
sebsebsebit's so addictive once got a good convo goingMar 13 04:23
sebsebsebon thereMar 13 04:23
schestowitzOnce you start denting it comes back at you, same with news/bloggingMar 13 04:24
sebsebsebcoding for what?Mar 13 04:24
sebsebsebcome back at you?  sucks you in?Mar 13 04:24
schestowitz3d face stuffMar 13 04:24
sebsebseb3d face stuff?Mar 13 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb How would you *reply* otherwise? :)Mar 13 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent. !wlMar 13 04:26
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/06/massive-dataset/Mar 13 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: Well today both me and @ruiseabra have been denting quite a bit to the !Elmdentica group, that didn't really need to be sent there.Mar 13 04:32
schestowitzsebsebseb: ok, let's see what was missed in identica...Mar 13 04:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66337056Mar 13 04:40
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:28:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Micro$oft's desperation rolls on: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/promotions/xbox.shtml?INTCMP=HomeBANXboxMar 13 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I have also been denting to !identiverse earlier when I didn't really have a proper reason to.Mar 13 04:41
schestowitzLOL I saw some Vista Phony 7 ads and promotions at O2 shop, but nobody bothers with itMar 13 04:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66389500Mar 13 04:41
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Mar-11 01:30:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Know you're tied up, but thanks for your outstanding efforts on #techrights, c.o.l.advocacy trolls keep whining LOL, the lusersMar 13 04:41
schestowitzlook who's talking...http://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 04:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 04:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 04:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 04:42
Diablo-D3404.Mar 13 04:42
schestowitzIt said: "@schestowitz ppl like @popey are desperate trolls"Mar 13 04:42
schestowitzMust have been deletdMar 13 04:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66565800  http://identi.ca/notice/66579264Mar 13 04:43
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 18:39:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  You moved in and comfortable yet?Mar 13 04:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 21:42:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Physically?Mar 13 04:43
Diablo-D3oopsMar 13 04:43
schestowitzHehMar 13 04:43
Diablo-D3schestowitz: does being a desperate troll pay well? :<Mar 13 04:44
schestowitzoh, the psycho is at it too...http://identi.ca/notice/66628010Mar 13 04:44
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 10:34:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @agentsmith @schestowitz Trolls hot & heavy with libel re #Linux advocacy http://ur1.ca/3g9j1 via #Microsoft Evangelism http://ur1.ca/3g9kqMar 13 04:44
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: maybeMar 13 04:45
*Diablo-D3 should try to get a job at microsoftMar 13 04:45
schestowitzHe didn't like it when I said he was maybe trying to be hired by Canonical... which I emphasised was mere speculationMar 13 04:45
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they don't hireMar 13 04:45
schestowitzUnless you move eastMar 13 04:45
schestowitzNot too far east thoughMar 13 04:45
schestowitzWith the radiation and all...Mar 13 04:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66635492Mar 13 04:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 12:23:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @ghostler @schestowitz Wow, are they still on those old tricks ? How pity.Mar 13 04:46
schestowitzLOL http://identi.ca/notice/66746894 Wayne's response nails itMar 13 04:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 11-Mar-11 17:43:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 04:48
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MinceRgeekingsMar 13 04:48
schestowitzNow I'm the bad guy for saying humans change climateMar 13 04:48
Diablo-D3schestowitz: hurrMar 13 04:50
Diablo-D3schestowitz: but I live in maineMar 13 04:50
Diablo-D3how more east do you wantMar 13 04:50
schestowitzNice placeMar 13 04:50
schestowitzExcept in winter... scary clod :-)Mar 13 04:51
schestowitz*coldMar 13 04:51
schestowitzClimate change is not about just warning but also extreme weather swingsMar 13 04:51
schestowitzAverage temperature keeps going up very rapidlyMar 13 04:52
oiaohmReally the nasty point is Average temp going up does not mean that some areas cannot go the other way.Mar 13 04:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb @gbraad is not on !elmdentica. Most dents were in context but not for #choqok :)Mar 13 04:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb #EFL is !enlightenment foundation libraries.Mar 13 04:56
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org seems to be down...?Mar 13 05:12
schestowitzHmmm...Mar 13 05:13
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TechrightsBot-trHmmm...Mar 13 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb I *know*, but they're in context for group !elmdentica.Mar 13 05:14
schestowitzGeez... Brandon really hammers it with this one rant http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/46264925856862208  http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45242394563715072 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45241019347902465 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240994706358273 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240995624914944 why repeat so many times?Mar 13 05:19
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 05:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #fedora #gnu #linux #ossMar 13 05:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/hfkrqUMar 13 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb because !elmdentica is not oriented towards desktop usage and I'm no my desktop.Mar 13 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb no, sending attachments isn't supported in !elmdentica yet.Mar 13 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods. I'm tired...Mar 13 05:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights http://wp.me/p1gptc-m4Mar 13 05:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/fAOyRkMar 13 05:19
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*amarsh04 thinks ender2070 could achieve more by being more constructiveMar 13 05:20
schestowitzHe doesn't realise I'm basically on his sideMar 13 05:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: who?Mar 13 05:21
sebsebsebI am not following the stuff here right nowMar 13 05:21
schestowitzIt's the people whom he's against that laughs it all off when he antagonises my work... just because I'm not expert in ROckefeller?Mar 13 05:22
amarsh04some conversations in #techrights I skip past because none of the participants post constructive commentsMar 13 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb that is exactly the conversation I meantMar 13 05:22
schestowitzLike DaemonFCMar 13 05:23
sebsebseband MinceR and gnufreex at times?Mar 13 05:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/psankar/statuses/45897830329622528Mar 13 05:23
TechrightsBot-tr@psankar: @m4n1sh I am wondering if boycott boy will say since Vuntz sent the mail, novell rejected canonical's patches ;-)Mar 13 05:23
amarsh04it's like complaining of having to configure some things manually and not having sent constructive bug reports and/or patches to the maintainersMar 13 05:24
schestowitzhttp://slated.org/copygate_exposes_ugly_ubuntu "Hmm, Bacon could do with learning some Open Respect? himself."Mar 13 05:25
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schestowitzHmm.. I missed that oneMar 13 05:25
*amarsh04 is amazed how many ALSA and kernel issues were identified and patched following his reports and testingMar 13 05:25
oiaohmamarsh04: I keep on saying to people you don't have to be a programmer.  You just need to know how to submit a well tested bug report.Mar 13 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DHS/ICE continues unconstitutional acts by arresting someone for linking to something else on their website http://ur1.ca/3i1s2Mar 13 05:31
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amarsh04indeed, oiaohmMar 13 05:31
amarsh04having a second pc has helped, but even with a single old pc I could compare results from different package versions and rebuild packages with different patches appliedMar 13 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I am not sure why both @ruiseabra and me kept on denting the group when we didn't need to, since the actual convo context exists.Mar 13 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: BounceBounce - simple accelerometer controlled game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7123Mar 13 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: OM Voice Server for N900's Ovi Maps allows for voice guided navigation: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7124Mar 13 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple XBMC Remote for the N900 - HTTP remote control for XBMC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7125Mar 13 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: SomeCover - album art manager and downloader for N900's SomePlayer: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7126Mar 13 05:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jkosonen: Next #QML #QtQuick game almost ready, see the alpha version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea49pQg5zXY #Maemo #MeeGo #N900Mar 13 05:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad Thanks for the link :).Mar 13 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 best alternative operating systems | News | TechRadar UK http://ping.fm/kPmu2Mar 13 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb we do not really like !UGD ;-)Mar 13 05:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Missed this !Crunchbang #! 10 Statler | !Linux Distro Review yesterday http://ping.fm/8kNiEMar 13 05:54
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schestowitztessier: it looks like the varnish part stopped functioning like it used to... since about an hour ago. It's similar to an issue from a couple of weeks agoMar 13 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Bagel Brothers http://b1t.it/cLA #4sqMar 13 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] recent events and blogposts have showed me why Zemlin shifted his focus from desktop to devices.Mar 13 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well as the saying goes: All things come to an end. I am stopping denting to !Elmdentica for now! http://identi.ca/conversation/66075864Mar 13 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Director: "#Patent Filings Do not Equal #Innovation," US Needs New Measure - http://bit.ly/dEI0PX is that a glimmer? (v @FOSSpatents)Mar 13 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 06:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @stemp: A !crunchbang 10 !statler Review on [Reddit] http://ur1.ca/3i18fMar 13 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IP Enforcement Permeates ICANN, US Internet Policy - http://bit.ly/gd1vDx "push for ever more far-reaching" criticisedMar 13 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Streaming is the #Copyright Industry’s Approaching Train at the End of the Tunnel - http://bit.ly/fpL8PC "Streaming changes what we pay for"Mar 13 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Viewing attachmets is supported, posting them, not yet. !elmdenticaMar 13 06:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Twitter Should Think Twice About Bulldozing the Ecosystem - http://bit.ly/gmpx4h useful summary of issuesMar 13 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @slated @schestowitz Your exposure in http://ur1.ca/3i2yt i.e. x.org clipboard vicious tirades are rants pushed by c.o.l.advocacy wintrolls.Mar 13 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 07:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 07:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Music Made Better: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in FLAC .::. Size~: 70.45 KBMar 13 07:06
oiaohmReally arguement for flac is not going to get far.  Its like the arguement for records.Mar 13 07:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh kind of interesting someone on identica who lives near where my Mum's mother lives, but I guess it's a bit strange in a way to message someone because of that, hmm.  So probably not really the best idea, oh well.Mar 13 07:07
oiaohmPeople traded quality for size.Mar 13 07:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: however I could subscribe and dent in the future with better reason or somethingMar 13 07:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: I guess so, yeah...Mar 13 07:11
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schestowitz*LOL* Just got this by E-mailMar 13 07:13
schestowitz> Hi,Mar 13 07:13
schestowitz> Mar 13 07:13
schestowitz> No news in Techrights. Is project dead?Mar 13 07:13
schestowitzI didn't want to announce being away in the site for the same reason people don't announce they leave their home to go on vacation... inviting bad people to take advantage of itMar 13 07:14
nisshhschestowitz, heheMar 13 07:14
oiaohmyou take a week holiday and people think the project is dead.Mar 13 07:15
schestowitzI remember some years ago getting flooded by libellous comment spam against me when that happened... took days to addressMar 13 07:15
oiaohmThat is funny.Mar 13 07:15
oiaohmSome projects I deal with play dead for upto 6 months at a time.Mar 13 07:15
schestowitz"Subject: Is techrights dead"Mar 13 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Ted Ts'o @tytso on @nearyd's post; why kernel devel is diff and desktop devel needs 'a sheepdog' http://is.gd/PZpaVQ /cc: !gnome !kdeMar 13 07:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Safe as Milk  » Blog Archive   » Lessons learned .::. Size~: 119.82 KBMar 13 07:16
schestowitzbrbMar 13 07:16
schestowitzoiaohm: I caught up with the new siteMar 13 07:16
schestowitzOne thing at a time, I also have a 40-hour research/coding project this weekMar 13 07:17
oiaohmHey you are due to 2 weeks off from techrights if you fell like it.Mar 13 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Mockup: Add / Remove Workspaces In Unity http://bit.ly/hmhiKKMar 13 07:19
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schestowitzI'll resume graduallyMar 13 07:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah your alloweed time  off techrightsMar 13 07:19
schestowitzNo major news anyway, except Japan in general and HP in LinuxsphreMar 13 07:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: Japan isn't really tech news though?Mar 13 07:20
schestowitzBut it's still hugely importantMar 13 07:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mageia Alpha 2 this ThursdayMar 13 07:20
sebsebsebuhMar 13 07:21
sebsebsebTuesday I meanMar 13 07:21
schestowitzI'm doing a short review of mint 10 since yesterdatMar 13 07:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: also i'll join the marketting time, even got offered to join by someone on it on like FridayMar 13 07:22
sebsebsebteam aboveMar 13 07:22
sebsebsebgood to do something proper when it comes to Linux, for me I mean :)Mar 13 07:22
schestowitzI had a sort of argument over marketingMar 13 07:22
sebsebsebof what Mageia?Mar 13 07:22
amarsh04I made an online order to a .jp site one hour after the earthquake and experienced no slow-down... a couple of days later they updated their site to apologise for any delays that the earthquake might causeMar 13 07:23
schestowitzBecause I mixed that with PR in generalMar 13 07:23
sebsebsebwhen what?Mar 13 07:23
schestowitzsebsebseb: I'll show you in -socialMar 13 07:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: okMar 13 07:23
schestowitzSo as to not put it in main channelMar 13 07:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An OpenGL 4.1 Gallium3D State Tracker Was Just Proposed: It's not often that really interesting mailing list mes... http://bit.ly/g1RODFMar 13 07:31
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sebsebsebschestowitz: oiaohm  This looks pretty good actsualley I guess: http://goshu-neko.deviantart.com/art/Alternative-OS-VS-Windows-200545861Mar 13 07:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative OS VS Windows by ~Goshu-neko on deviantART .::. Size~: 75.63 KBMar 13 07:33
sebsebsebaltough it looks like a Microsoft hate wall paper?Mar 13 07:33
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MinceRsebsebseb: Microsoft® Windows™ Hate?Mar 13 07:36
MinceR(also spelled as "8")Mar 13 07:36
MinceRkind of reminds me of that pic from the virtualbox about boxMar 13 07:37
schestowitzgnufreex: hiMar 13 07:52
schestowitzDid you see mono/android news?Mar 13 07:52
schestowitzSome Microsoft lad it poisoning LinuxMar 13 07:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koush/status/46299788655869952Mar 13 07:52
TechrightsBot-tr@koush: The signed Honeycomb update from Moto/Google contains libmono.so and libunity.so. @migueldeicaza @unity3dMar 13 07:52
schestowitzgforbes added this to the wikiMar 13 07:52
gnufreexoh crapMar 13 07:52
gnufreexLike Google wants more lawsuitsMar 13 07:52
gnufreexschestowitz: So it comes by default?Mar 13 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://goo.gl/8I8Wp !gnome vs !canonicalMar 13 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Pestalozzischule http://b1t.it/aJP #4sqMar 13 07:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Pestalozzischule       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia .::. Size~: 23.15 KBMar 13 07:54
gnufreexMicrosoft can now bully Android OEMs into switching to "real deal"Mar 13 07:54
gnufreex.NET and WP7Mar 13 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: How to add PDF files on your iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone: http://bit.ly/dpMoHLMar 13 07:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to add PDF files to read in iBooks on your iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone – Simple Help .::. Size~: 80.83 KBMar 13 07:57
gnufreexhttp://yfrog.com/f/h23i3ctj/Mar 13 07:58
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesMar 13 08:04
schestowitzAnd see the comment in http://techrights.org/2011/03/03/rogue-ipr-games/#commentsMar 13 08:04
schestowitzI pasted in the -social irc channel, tooMar 13 08:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nothing found for  2011 03 03 Rogue-ipr-games #comments .::. Size~: 43.26 KBMar 13 08:04
schestowitzMore on that Nokia dealMar 13 08:04
schestowitzMicrosoft has a plan: plawsuitsMar 13 08:04
schestowitzgnufreex: buy xbox !!Mar 13 08:07
schestowitz"Love, Microsoft"Mar 13 08:07
gnufreexWhat is most imporant now is Nokia devsMar 13 08:08
gnufreexThose that developed for nokia phonesMar 13 08:08
gnufreexIf they switch to .NET, it will be very badMar 13 08:08
gnufreexThey are being trolled hard right nowMar 13 08:08
gnufreex"Use .NET or you will be homeless bum. All other frameworks are dead"Mar 13 08:09
gnufreexschestowitz: And de Icaza is still pscyched Mar 13 08:09
gnufreexAs in PsychopathMar 13 08:10
MinceRi'd rather use the work of GNU/Linux developers than that of symbian developersMar 13 08:10
gnufreexIt overlaps. Mar 13 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All the other guys are not wrong - http://bit.ly/h9qfgd long & interesting post from Mr #Shuttleworth on the current argy-bargy #gnome #kdeMar 13 08:11
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gnufreexThey will be shilling for .NOTMar 13 08:11
gnufreexif they drink kool aidMar 13 08:11
gnufreexIt is like a cancerMar 13 08:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah there's this news as well, something Thisleweb dented about: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/13/0055209/Flickr-Censors-Egypt-Police-Photos?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20Slashdot/slashdot%20%28Slashdot%29Mar 13 08:12
gnufreex.NET is designed to be a cancer for programming freedomMar 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flickr Censors Egypt Police Photos - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.13 KBMar 13 08:12
gnufreexA framework to frame everyone in same mindset.Mar 13 08:12
gnufreexThat is why MSFT have jihadists that push their agenda... like De Icaza and such. Mar 13 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am done organising everything in the house, catching up now, but big project in coming week, research-related...Mar 13 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis !China #CCAV feature report of #Japan earthquake uses the BGM of Inception and Transformer. Too good not to use, again? ...Mar 13 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Still using a dongle to connect until BT engineer comes; expensive bandwidth, so little activity here until wired Internet gets installedMar 13 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @MeeGo_Peregrine: Peregrine renders now with OpenGL - N900 performance is great. Try it. http://tinyurl.com/6x4j7ljMar 13 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today - http://rww.to/fwRHBh Dante would have approved #socialnwsMar 13 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.11 KBMar 13 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get Latest Version - Peregrine Wiki - Confluence .::. Size~: 54.96 KBMar 13 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today .::. Size~: 56.91 KBMar 13 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed - http://bit.ly/h9Diqr vindictive or incompetent? probably both...Mar 13 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Set Up Sparkleshare With Your Own Server http://bit.ly/h10g5PMar 13 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) http://bit.ly/hsN6CaMar 13 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☂ Writer’s Block: http://wmk.me/gYgIGkMar 13 08:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.08 KBMar 13 08:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☂ Writer’s Block « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 49.72 KBMar 13 08:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: also Twitter are saying no to 3rd party Twitter clients, well new ones, that's the other major news at the momentMar 13 08:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: this article for example: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_tells_developers_to_stop_building_twitter.phpMar 13 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Tells Developers to Stop Building Twitter Clients .::. Size~: 70.8 KBMar 13 08:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, depressingMar 13 08:42
schestowitzYou put a lot into it, then the company says **** ***Mar 13 08:42
schestowitzIn identica I've almost passed fabsh to be most prolific posterMar 13 08:43
schestowitzSomeone I know said he'd just start posting from identica because of twitter's policyMar 13 08:43
schestowitztwitter will get just the copies, though that "Connect" option in identicaMar 13 08:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66889211Mar 13 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 15:20:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I gather that BT customer service is an Oxymoron.Mar 13 08:46
schestowitzI've phoned them about 7 times already; and that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over.Mar 13 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Program your wrist watch http://ow.ly/4dt0nMar 13 08:49
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gnufreexschestowitz: Why no articles for a week?Mar 13 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Slinky | !GIMP Plugin Registry http://ping.fm/agpujMar 13 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Só não há crise para os ricos... Sobre a opinião de Pedro Boucherie Mendes http://blog.1407.org/2011/03/13/so-nao-ha-crise-para-os-ricos/Mar 13 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Só não há crise para os ricos… » FU-BAR .::. Size~: 49.58 KBMar 13 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] also, morning @coyoMar 13 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Good news: European Court of Justice rejects stem-cell #patents : Nature News http://ping.fm/vbUA9Mar 13 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent.Mar 13 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP @SusanDelacourt I thought (mis/re)-interpreting the distant past was now part of Canadian politics?Mar 13 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP Are you "just visiting" "The Harper Government"? *evil grins* @SusanDelacourtMar 13 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @SusanDelacourt: Harper's Conservatives increasingly dependent on Mike Harris's gang: http://bit.ly/edsKnO #cdnpoliMar 13 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it right nowMar 13 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A New CPU, Power Monitoring Utility: Thomas Renninger of SuSE has announced cpupowerutils, a new free software p... http://bit.ly/hRwjGtMar 13 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free & future proof #musicMar 13 09:07
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sebsebsebI don't really care, but by the wayMar 13 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it nowMar 13 09:12
sebsebsebhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_launch_major_new_social_network_called_c.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+readwriteweb+%28ReadWriteWeb%29&utm_content=Google+ReaderMar 13 09:12
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sebsebsebsomething I got onto earlier from identicaMar 13 09:12
sebsebseboh and a dent just came in about it from silner hmmMar 13 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Easier now to be a Fedora maintainer - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-February/000757.html #fbMar 13 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google Circles, new Social Network, at Readwriteweb http://ow.ly/4dtHz Thanks to @ferguskelly for link http://goo.gl/5hiThMar 13 09:17
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Diablo-D3 Via @@swadeshine: RD @diablod3 Turn any page into #Katamari Damashii http://kathack.com/ (@ONoesUDidnt)Mar 13 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Crap! The suspention on my car just broke.Mar 13 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] always keep in mind the people doing this continually style themselves as "the good guys" http://tighturl.com/302k #MPAA #RIAA #FACT #P2PMar 13 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Help Japan poster http://ur1.ca/3i55gMar 13 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.05 KBMar 13 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 60k damages awarded against blogger who reported truth http://ur1.ca/3i55oMar 13 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $60k damages awarded against blogger who reported truth - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.01 KBMar 13 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why am I reminded of the Musicians Guild? Thugs in suits arrive to LEGALLY intimidate you & trash your gear if you don't pay them #DiscworldMar 13 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] What De Icaza complains about in that people can change or break their desktops is called freedom, and clearly he does not understand itMar 13 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb: Thanks anyway :)Mar 13 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Largest #Wisconsin protests ever: 85,000+ people in Madison's streets http://ur1.ca/3i57tMar 13 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://ping.fm/MvzKNMar 13 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Israel seem to have a natural talent for pouring oil on the fire, then playing the victim http://tighturl.com/302m #Occupation #IllegalMar 13 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Chrome 10 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/chrome-10-released/Mar 13 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome 10 Released http://ow.ly/4dun3Mar 13 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@ruiseabra@bugabundo nada como a arrogância de quem só teve trabalhos d chefia http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pedro-boucherie-mendes/7/702/27aMar 13 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, 90 minutes from inside the apartment to back inside when going to the airport to pick up surplus baggage. Gotta love our location.Mar 13 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Haight-Ashbury today.Mar 13 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Incisive, hilarious, harsh, spot-on all at once. The Ghetto Called #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3i5paMar 13 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Moving heaven and earth to find a 22nF capacitor.Mar 13 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bdale Garbee Joins FreedomBox Foundation Board http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/bdale-garbee-joins-freedombox-foundation/Mar 13 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pinguy Info about Pingguy 11.04 Alpha and how to get involved. http://bit.ly/hDr9mo !Ubuntu !linuxMar 13 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "E Pluribus Unum" becomes controversial: #Religious Right seeks to banish inclusive motto http://ur1.ca/3i5yb #wtfMar 13 10:26
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Mikey_hey royMar 13 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh it's Daylight Saving Time, !heybuddy has date/time issues; I should switch things to "relative" timeMar 13 10:36
DaemonFCI'm throwing just about every performance trick I can think of at this laptop, I don't know why nobarrier didn't come to mind soonerMar 13 10:36
DaemonFCit has battery backup :)Mar 13 10:36
DaemonFCbarriers never used to be the default on Ext3 and Ext4 anyway, so in a way they were less safe than XFS in the event of an unclean shutdownMar 13 10:38
DaemonFCit was only after people noticed the effect of persistent preallocation and delayed allocation on an unclean shutdown with Ext4 nobarrier that they started bitching, and this got changedMar 13 10:39
DaemonFCthat's why you see Ext4 dancing circles around XFS in Linux <2.6.31 but all of a sudden, read/write performance goes down by around 30%Mar 13 10:40
DaemonFCMinceR had commented on XFS eating your data, but XFS has defaulted to barrier since Linux 2.6.17Mar 13 10:41
DaemonFCit never had to when it was on IRIX because it wasn't running on crappy PC hardware that wasn't backed up by a batteryMar 13 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @Debichan: #Manning is in all our hearts and minds, THAT'S the right place. #iambradleymanning !WikiLeaksMar 13 10:42
DaemonFCeven if you were running one of those SGI machines without battery backup, the filesystem would detect the power outage and immedietly sync the filesystemMar 13 10:43
DaemonFCLinux has never profived the ability to do this on any architecture :)Mar 13 10:43
DaemonFC*providedMar 13 10:43
DaemonFCthere's a lot of FUD going around about XFS that is actually the fault of GNU GRUB, Linux, or old versions of LinuxMar 13 10:44
DaemonFCFUD never seems to dieMar 13 10:44
DaemonFCXFS is at least as safe as Ext4, if not better, when running on GRUB 2, because GRUB was doing a lot of really nasty perverse things to a file system that Ext2/3 mostly happened to tolerate B-)Mar 13 10:45
schestowitzHey, Mikey_Mar 13 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the prospect of a semi against !ManUtd don't motivate !ManCity to win today, they should hang their heads in shameMar 13 10:46
Mikey_hey Roy, what a night!Mar 13 10:46
schestowitzYes, I got home aftr 4Mar 13 10:46
Mikey_later than planned but what the hellMar 13 10:46
schestowitzTried too many shortcuts in vainMar 13 10:46
schestowitzEnded up walking for like 2 hours, I thinkMar 13 10:47
Mikey_did you walkMar 13 10:47
Mikey_wowMar 13 10:47
DaemonFCon some workloads, I notice that it's better to use Ext3 mounted without barriers than it is to use Ext4Mar 13 10:47
Mikey_2 hours?Mar 13 10:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 10:47
schestowitzMikey_: and had to wake up by 9Mar 13 10:47
Mikey_did you feel roughMar 13 10:47
schestowitzDid Andy get back OK?Mar 13 10:47
Mikey_yes he didMar 13 10:47
schestowitzMikey_: no, it was OKMar 13 10:47
Mikey_did you leave earlyMar 13 10:47
schestowitzIt was OK walking, too. If I disliked it, I'd stick to the paths I know wellMar 13 10:48
Mikey_i woke at 10.30amMar 13 10:48
Mikey_glad you got back okMar 13 10:49
schestowitzWhat's happening today?Mar 13 10:49
Mikey_how did you walk for 2 hoursMar 13 10:49
schestowitzWhen is Midland closing in weekends?Mar 13 10:49
Mikey_i am just relaxing nowMar 13 10:49
schestowitzMikey_: circlesMar 13 10:49
Mikey_on PCMar 13 10:49
schestowitzBTWMar 13 10:49
schestowitzI asked some guys here about monitorsMar 13 10:49
Mikey_oh yeahMar 13 10:50
schestowitzThe CRT is getting long in the toothMar 13 10:50
schestowitzAnd the Dell woofer won't connectMar 13 10:50
schestowitzI have too much hardware around that's not operationalMar 13 10:50
schestowitzI threw out 2 CRTs before movingMar 13 10:51
schestowitzOne was an IBM, worked OKMar 13 10:51
DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed something amusing today with FGLRX and SELinux, turns out that if you don't allow its libGL.so to map memory locations as readable and writable, it fails to load Mar 13 10:51
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 10:51
schestowitzI should have kept itMar 13 10:51
DaemonFCof course this won't affect Mes'a libGL.so at allMar 13 10:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: tried Mint yet?Mar 13 10:51
DaemonFC*Mesa'sMar 13 10:51
schestowitzMint 10...Mar 13 10:51
Mikey_yes you could do with a new one ARIA have a warehouse near me and a website you could take a look i buy lots of kit from them http://www.aria.co.uk/Mar 13 10:51
schestowitzFantastic distroMar 13 10:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aria PC - Computer Hardware, Components, Monitors.. at lowest prices .::. Size~: 57.91 KBMar 13 10:51
DaemonFCMint Search Hijacker lolMar 13 10:51
DaemonFCI complained to Opera about that btwMar 13 10:52
schestowitzI could keep the CRT as backup option, in case any of the other monitors goes kaputMar 13 10:52
DaemonFCOpera 11.10 will protect its search provider listings from Linux MintMar 13 10:52
DaemonFCit won't blindly import Firefox's search providers anymoreMar 13 10:52
DaemonFCit only trusts its own plus what the user adds or removesMar 13 10:53
schestowitzMikey_: I'm about to post http://schestowitz.com/cMar 13 10:53
schestowitzWhat do you think of it?Mar 13 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schestowitz » Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 19.55 KBMar 13 10:53
Mikey_how is the penthouse suite today ROy, Andy says its great:)Mar 13 10:53
DaemonFCI had a discussion with some of Opera's developers over the Linux Mint situationMar 13 10:53
DaemonFCand that was the conclusion they came toMar 13 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] motivation: beat Utd in the semi, denying Utd a place in the final / silverware while being 90mins away from that silverware yourselfMar 13 10:54
schestowitzMikey_: a couch+computer 'with stuff around it' :-)Mar 13 10:54
DaemonFCnamely that Mint shouldn't hijack the search bar in software that they don't provideMar 13 10:54
Mikey_"award-winning Dr. Roy Schestowitz".......like it:)Mar 13 10:55
schestowitzUnderutilised place.Mar 13 10:55
schestowitzHang on, colleague on lineMar 13 10:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: I understand why they have Google CSE, but at the same time I disapprove of their interference with the user trying to disable itMar 13 10:55
DaemonFCthe real Google Search is much more usefulMar 13 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] Shame on #Obama for firing @PJCrowley, the one sane voice in the White House regarding #Manning and !WikiLeaks!Mar 13 10:56
DaemonFCif you want to get dicky, their costs to maintain Mint are minimal, they mostly just point to Ubuntu repositories, so they even hit Ubuntu with their bandwidth bill for the most partMar 13 10:56
DaemonFCI think it's sort of petty to insist the user must use broken Google search so they can get click penniesMar 13 10:56
schestowitzThey're sending me softphone on MondayMar 13 10:57
DaemonFCthe coul provide an easy way to turn that off and still cover their expenses and turn a profitMar 13 10:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: Aside from that (big) complaint, I think Mint is lovelyMar 13 10:57
DaemonFCtheir theme and customizations to GNOME make it usable and attractiveMar 13 10:58
Mikey_what time did you leaveMar 13 10:58
DaemonFCmy other problem is that they're running a month behind Ubuntu, and two months if you happen to use X86-64, which they unfortunately name x64 (Microsoftism)Mar 13 10:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, it's lovelyMar 13 11:00
schestowitzMikey_: you should try MintMar 13 11:00
schestowitzI'll set you up with dual bootMar 13 11:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mikey_ is like you... he had VISTAMar 13 11:00
schestowitzI think he still doesMar 13 11:01
schestowitzHe hates itMar 13 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Olav Vitters about !GNOME external dependencies http://goo.gl/FHHcNMar 13 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » External dependencies Olav Vitters .::. Size~: 8.41 KBMar 13 11:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I still use 10.04 LTSMar 13 11:01
schestowitzDelays are not a PITAMar 13 11:01
DaemonFCwell, PPAs take away some of the painMar 13 11:01
schestowitzPPAs give latest versions tooMar 13 11:01
schestowitzYeahMar 13 11:01
DaemonFCyepMar 13 11:01
schestowitzBeat me to itMar 13 11:01
DaemonFCLinux 2.6.32 isn't really a bad place to beMar 13 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Colin Waters on the !GNOME vs !Canonical case: In fact, anyone can do it http://goo.gl/Pypi7Mar 13 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In fact, anyone can do it « Colin Walters .::. Size~: 23.81 KBMar 13 11:02
DaemonFCit's a lontg term stable with a lot of enterprise distros backporting fixes toMar 13 11:02
DaemonFCit shouldn't do anything wickedMar 13 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, starting to teach @coyo some C @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekk. If you want to pick up a bit, or if you actually [cont]Mar 13 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk know C and would like to make sure that I'm teaching it right(seriously, I'd love that), come on inMar 13 11:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PiratePad: Create a new pad? .::. Size~: 4.77 KBMar 13 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] of course to beat Utd in the semi, ya have to get tot he semi. The City players know Utd are waiting for them, it SHOULD drive themMar 13 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@themadhatter I've phoned them about 7 times already; & that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over. #btcares like #bpMar 13 11:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/46432005738606593Mar 13 11:08
TechrightsBot-tr@yuhong2: @schestowitz Tech Report has a poll on which one is most evil: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20556Mar 13 11:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Poll: Which tech company is the most evil? - The Tech Report .::. Size~: 20.15 KBMar 13 11:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_clarkdale_q111&num=2Mar 13 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Graphics Get A Boost With Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11 .::. Size~: 18.12 KBMar 13 11:17
DaemonFC11 fps on Nexuiz!Mar 13 11:17
DaemonFClmaoMar 13 11:17
DaemonFCeven the reverse engineered nvidia drivers do better than this alreadyMar 13 11:18
DaemonFCtranslation: you still can't run Nexuiz on Intel GMA, even if the driver is 5 times faster than it is nowMar 13 11:20
DaemonFCit would have to be 15 times faster just to achieve the 30 fps required of a first person shooterMar 13 11:20
DaemonFCand 30 times faster to match the monitor refresh rateMar 13 11:21
MinceRor you could use a lower resolution and lower quality settingsMar 13 11:21
DaemonFCmeh, there's less room for growth with the Intel driver seeing as how the hardware isn't capable of that much anywayMar 13 11:21
DaemonFCeven the proprietary driver on Windows isn't a whole lot betterMar 13 11:22
DaemonFCthe hardware is the limiting factorMar 13 11:22
DaemonFCI remember when Crapple downgraded all their Mac Minis to Intel GMA from a dedicated low-end Radeon and promoted it as a featureMar 13 11:22
DaemonFCeven though the performance was worseMar 13 11:23
DaemonFCthey also took the liberty of jacking the price up $100 even though they just saved a bundle on the cost to manufactureMar 13 11:23
DaemonFCbut it's Crapple, isn't it? :)Mar 13 11:23
MinceRi remember when crApple said "we don't ship integrated GPUs because they suck" only to later start shipping integrated GPUsMar 13 11:23
DaemonFCyesMar 13 11:23
DaemonFCthe PowerPC G4 Mini with the Radeon 9800 will run rings around the Intel Mac Mini that replaced itMar 13 11:24
DaemonFCApple managed to rid some benchmarks, selective ones, ones that mean nothing and can't be reliably repeatedMar 13 11:24
DaemonFC*rigMar 13 11:24
DaemonFCshowing that Intel was fasterMar 13 11:24
*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsMar 13 11:25
_Goblinschestowitz: hi royMar 13 11:25
DaemonFCThe Radeon 9800 is old, but it has hardware support for a lot of features that the Intel GMA still doesn't, and dedicated memoryMar 13 11:25
schestowitzHey, buddyMar 13 11:25
_GoblinAre we able to record tonight?Mar 13 11:26
schestowitzI'm on o2 dongle ATMMar 13 11:26
_Goblinah...Mar 13 11:26
schestowitzBTW, it works ok in LinuxMar 13 11:26
DaemonFCthe only time I see Intel doing better is if the textures go over 128 MB (Radeon 9800 memory size) and there's more RAM for Intel to steal from the systemMar 13 11:26
_Goblinany idea when you will be up properly?Mar 13 11:26
schestowitzYou had me thinking you needed XP on the laptop for itMar 13 11:26
schestowitz_Goblin: next week unless BT are lyingMar 13 11:26
schestowitzAnd I screwed upMar 13 11:26
_Goblin>Mar 13 11:26
schestowitzCause O2 broadband is FAR cheaperMar 13 11:26
_Goblin?Mar 13 11:26
_Goblinah....Mar 13 11:26
_Goblinlast time I tried the 02 dongle (2008) I would not play with LinuxMar 13 11:27
_GoblinI tethered after that.Mar 13 11:27
DaemonFCbut that's questionable since 1. Intel's driver won't use more than 128 megs unless you have at least 1 gig, and 2. Most Intel minis until recently shipped with 512 MB as the base configurationMar 13 11:27
_Goblinor maybe it was 2009Mar 13 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism: http://bit.ly/ebybpL #anonymous #politics #internetMar 13 11:27
DaemonFCand oh yeah, 3. Have fun prying open your Mac with a paint scraper to get more RAM into itMar 13 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism | Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter .::. Size~: 24.27 KBMar 13 11:27
_Goblinwell roy if you have no objections.....Mar 13 11:27
_GoblinI'll run a show solo...Mar 13 11:28
DaemonFCnow that Crapple uses those 5 point screws, a can opener is probably in orderMar 13 11:28
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 11:28
DaemonFCUpgradin' zu RAM? Zats a niche niche!Mar 13 11:29
MinceRnah, use some C4Mar 13 11:29
DaemonFCBring it into our Crapple store and provided you're a non smoker, we'll work on it for triple the going rateMar 13 11:29
MinceRor drop it from a tall buildingMar 13 11:29
schestowitz_Goblin: sure!Mar 13 11:29
_Goblin:)Mar 13 11:29
schestowitzI can record too, thoughMar 13 11:29
schestowitzUnless connection gets wonkyMar 13 11:29
_Goblinits up to you......Mar 13 11:30
schestowitzWhat time?Mar 13 11:30
_Goblinup to you.Mar 13 11:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Attach C4 to Crapple blast resistent 5 point case screw. If your local hardware store or Walmart is out, steal some from your nearest National Guard ArmoryMar 13 11:30
DaemonFCB-)\Mar 13 11:30
MinceRdoesn't matter if the screw is blast resistant :>Mar 13 11:31
_GoblinIve got two days off and Ive done my wifes chores for the dayMar 13 11:31
schestowitzLet's record in half an hour?Mar 13 11:31
_Goblinok....Mar 13 11:31
_GoblinnpMar 13 11:31
schestowitzYou can tell *me* what the news isMar 13 11:32
schestowitzCause I've been off the grid for a whileMar 13 11:32
_GoblinMichelle is standing over me growling at that btwMar 13 11:32
DaemonFCWhat kind of sick twisted individual can defend a company that goes to these lengths to make sure you can't mod the hardware that you own?Mar 13 11:32
schestowitzI didn't know about Japan even, till Mikey_ told me at the gymMar 13 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @dissolvethecrtc: The truth about UBB - From a former Bell Support Agent. http://bit.ly/eLuNPjMar 13 11:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: SCOnyMar 13 11:33
DaemonFCthe guide to removing the nonstandard screw says you'll probably strip it, then later on says to put it back inMar 13 11:33
schestowitzand TIMar 13 11:33
DaemonFCnot find a standard screw of the same sizeMar 13 11:33
DaemonFCI lol'dMar 13 11:33
_Goblinschestowitz: I;ll just go and have my mandatory smoke and get coffee ready, be back in 1/2 hourMar 13 11:33
schestowitzFor their calculators at leastMar 13 11:33
schestowitzniceMar 13 11:33
DaemonFChttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=0a6f09a76a416b8672e149c520aa5bef33174223Mar 13 11:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 17.33 KBMar 13 11:34
DaemonFCnow this is niceMar 13 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, imagine how retailers would exploit that, walking through a shopping mall would be a cacophony of people's phones assaulted non-stopMar 13 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter it'd BING her phone too, the interesting part is is she's the one who responds instead of youMar 13 11:34
DaemonFCthese little papercut bug fixes that make one or two operations a little fasterMar 13 11:34
DaemonFCenough of those gets you an optimized driver B-)Mar 13 11:34
DaemonFCso much focus gets placed on the major commits that few people even bother going over the existing code to see if it could be made betterMar 13 11:35
DaemonFCthat's the problem with these open source drivers, eventually nobody even bothers looking at old code until the compiler won't build it Mar 13 11:37
DaemonFCalthough that's mostly the case right now with RV100-400 series RadeonsMar 13 11:38
DaemonFCthere's a hell of a regression in Mesa 7.11 affecting my 480Mar 13 11:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66898975Mar 13 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:25:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I assume a shows off today?Mar 13 11:40
schestowitzIt's onMar 13 11:40
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899151Mar 13 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:27:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And now you know why BT wants to have a monopoly - so that they don't HAVE to improve service...Mar 13 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 for a Whole Day http://ur1.ca/3i6y9 #gnu #freedomMar 13 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 for a Whole Day | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.12 KBMar 13 11:41
schestowitzI don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 11:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Clementine project makes a lot of changes, but not many releasesMar 13 11:44
*DaemonFC is tired of cloning from SVNMar 13 11:44
DaemonFC:PMar 13 11:44
DaemonFCwhy can't every project release like Chrome?Mar 13 11:45
DaemonFCwe'd be on Clementine 47 by nowMar 13 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contracting for Scientific Betterment http://ur1.ca/3i739 #science #freedom #matlab #octave #linux #migration #lockinMar 13 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Contracting for Scientific Betterment .::. Size~: 34.1 KBMar 13 11:49
sebsebsebCan a average person install Meego onto their netbook?Mar 13 11:52
sebsebsebWhat are good netbook OS's, I don't really know much about them and Jolicloud is the only one that comes to mind really.Mar 13 11:52
sebsebseband Ubuntu is ok on a netbook those versions, but that's going bye bye for Unity so hmm.Mar 13 11:53
sebsebseb_Goblin you know about this stuff I think? ^Mar 13 11:53
sebsebsebHi by the way, how are you?Mar 13 11:53
MinceRi think any good desktop gnu/linux distro is fineMar 13 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity must resign, the cowards stayMar 13 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley Manning remarks | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.61 KBMar 13 11:56
MinceRand the "netbook" uis are overratedMar 13 11:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899966 https://identi.ca/notice/66899995Mar 13 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:42:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Lock in. No wonder BT doesn't care.Mar 13 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:43:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Since you've got nothing else to do :) did you start reading my book?Mar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @bccla: Some US airport naked scanners putting out ten times more radiation than originally claimed: http://t.co/bt3Pa8MMar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedomMar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: PJ Crowley resigns over #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity resigns, cowards stayMar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I read when you like to itMar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I mean linkMar 13 11:57
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.27 KBMar 13 11:58
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_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive really only spent time with Peppermint ICE on my netbookMar 13 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @schestowitz ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedom >>¡excelente!Mar 13 11:59
_Goblinsebsebseb: I only use the netbook when Im wanting to watch tv in the front room and surf at the same time.Mar 13 11:59
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sebsebseb_Goblin: ah yes PepermintMar 13 12:00
sebsebsebis it good?Mar 13 12:00
sebsebsebby the way starting with 11.04 their won't be the seperate netbook edition anymore. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/the-end-of-ubuntu-netbook-edition-the-return-of-ubuntu/Mar 13 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The end of Ubuntu Netbook edition .::. Size~: 103.82 KBMar 13 12:00
_Goblinsebsebseb: I think its fantasticMar 13 12:00
sebsebseb_Goblin: I am replying to a woman on identica, but well loads of the Ubuntu fan boys and such already have as well hmmMar 13 12:01
sebsebseband yeahMar 13 12:01
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive never needed to consider another distro for the netbookMar 13 12:01
DaemonFChttp://www.foresightlinux.org/Mar 13 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foresight Linux - Because Your Distro Shoud be Cool! .::. Size~: 9.7 KBMar 13 12:01
DaemonFCthere's always that B-)Mar 13 12:01
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im told #!cbl is very good too.Mar 13 12:01
sebsebseb_Goblin: maybe tell her that, of course I could mention pepermint as well though, already mentioned jolicloud to herMar 13 12:01
sebsebsebwhat's cbl ?Mar 13 12:02
_Goblincrunch bang linuxMar 13 12:02
sebsebsebah yes thatMar 13 12:02
_GoblinI think the best bet is peppermint....its a very "out of the box" distroMar 13 12:02
DaemonFCForesight Linux - Because your distro shouldn't have any packages!Mar 13 12:02
sebsebsebok I think you should say that to her, I can set it up so you can dent though :DMar 13 12:03
DaemonFClast time I tried it, there was no XChatMar 13 12:03
DaemonFConly XChat-GNOMEMar 13 12:03
_Goblintrue...but you can get it from the repo'sMar 13 12:03
_Goblinor for the "l33t" theres always IRSSIMar 13 12:03
DaemonFCno, I searched their package repo and there was no xchatMar 13 12:03
_Goblin;)Mar 13 12:03
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 12:03
_Goblinare you sure?Mar 13 12:03
sebsebseb_Goblin: uh which name do you use now on there?  only openbytes or?Mar 13 12:04
_Goblinsebsebseb: on identi.ca Im openbytes on Twitter im _GoblinMar 13 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be quicker to name those NOT breaking the law #NoW #PhoneHacking http://tighturl.com/302x now 6 named #OneRogueReporter #BullshitMar 13 12:04
sebsebsebhmmMar 13 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phone hacking: Panorama to name sixth journalist in News of the World scandal | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.57 KBMar 13 12:04
sebsebsebI think you subscribed to me as _goblin before or somethingMar 13 12:04
MinceRDaemonFC: conary -- because package managers that don't commit suicide are boring!Mar 13 12:04
DaemonFCthere's always OpenSuse where PackageKit and Yast throw poo at each otherMar 13 12:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway just checked, I am subscribed to openbytes :)Mar 13 12:05
_Goblinsebsebseb: that would be on Twitter.....I chose to use Openbytes for Identi.caMar 13 12:05
DaemonFCevery time you do something in one, it breaks the otherMar 13 12:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: right well your about to get a dent to her and you, on there,  that you can  then reply to about distro's :)Mar 13 12:05
_Goblinschestowitz: Do you want to give it a go?Mar 13 12:05
schestowitzJust a momentMar 13 12:06
schestowitzFinishing a postMar 13 12:06
DaemonFCthe guy who started Foresight is working at Canonical now, I found a picture of him and posted it on UncyclopediaMar 13 12:06
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UbuntuMar 13 12:07
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DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu#Marketing_and_CommunityMar 13 12:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 56.25 KBMar 13 12:07
DaemonFCto the rightMar 13 12:07
DaemonFCmneptok, the paid Ubuntu gigolo of the Dread Cthulhu Shuttleworth, says, "My hair is luxurious. Touch it.".Mar 13 12:07
_Goblinschestowitz: npMar 13 12:07
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 12:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uh what was that?Mar 13 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #BBC political party in full swing, out to defend it's gravy train, did they contract #Deloitte for this study? http://tighturl.com/302yMar 13 12:07
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DaemonFCI rewrote the Ubuntu article a few years agoMar 13 12:07
DaemonFCa lot of that is meMar 13 12:07
sebsebsebalso mneptok now that's someone I didn't get on properly with before here and thereMar 13 12:08
DaemonFC"Replacing everything written in C and Python with Mono"Mar 13 12:09
DaemonFC:DMar 13 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, @coyo is starting scheme @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekkMar 13 12:09
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DaemonFCThe conference call of the Cthulu (another one of mine)Mar 13 12:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok look at identica :)Mar 13 12:11
DaemonFCspeaking of LOLCODE, someone ported it to .NET a while backMar 13 12:11
_GoblinokMar 13 12:11
sebsebseb_Goblin: and reply, thanks :)Mar 13 12:11
sebsebsebgive the context a quick look as well Mar 13 12:11
sebsebsebof the convoMar 13 12:11
sebsebsebI guessMar 13 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Six million #DNA profiles, 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Developers at #PAXEast: Intel's appup developer program wants YOU, come get an awesome shirt http://t.co/JO1XG1bMar 13 12:12
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DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/Gy2LiNc1Mar 13 12:12
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DaemonFCheheMar 13 12:12
_Goblinsebsebseb: done!Mar 13 12:13
DaemonFCnomnom=killallMar 13 12:13
DaemonFC:DMar 13 12:13
schestowitzOK, ready...Mar 13 12:13
_Goblincool me tooMar 13 12:13
schestowitzjust hutting down some stuffMar 13 12:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66900679Mar 13 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:59:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ah, link. Here it is: http://weblit.ca/?q=node/15 #amwritingMar 13 12:14
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sebsebseb_Goblin: going to recomend crunchbang as well or not?Mar 13 12:14
_Goblinsebsebseb: no.....Ive not personally used it on a NetbookMar 13 12:15
DaemonFChttps://github.com/karthick18/inception/blob/master/inception.cMar 13 12:15
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sebsebseb_Goblin: ohMar 13 12:16
sebsebsebI haven't for jolicloud since I don't have a netbook, but apparently it's very good.Mar 13 12:16
_GoblinI hated it.Mar 13 12:16
_Goblintoo mobile phoney for me.Mar 13 12:16
_GoblinI want my netbook to vaguely resemble my desktop and not have some large icon "userfriendly" UI intruding on it......Mar 13 12:17
_Goblinit also felt.........shielded....for want of a better word.Mar 13 12:17
DaemonFCI think it's amusing that PC makers always choose the shittiest distros that nobody has ever heard of and then complain when customers return them and get something with WindowsMar 13 12:17
DaemonFCif I got SLED or Foresight as my first Linux distro, I may do the same thingMar 13 12:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok sounds like Canonical's Ubuntu Unity probably isn't quite for you then eitherMar 13 12:18
*MinceR is now known as LifeMaskIsARetarMar 13 12:18
_GoblinI'll reserve judgement until Ive had a chance with it.Mar 13 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Not-so-dumb joke: What word beginning w/ the letter 'A' is a person who doesn't believe in #god? Adult. twitter.com/bluharmonyMar 13 12:19
DaemonFCUnity, the alternative shell for GNOME, available in GTK+ with Compiz or QT without CompizMar 13 12:19
DaemonFCit's very unifiedMar 13 12:19
_Goblinschestowitz: any joy with your dongle and Skype?Mar 13 12:22
cubezzz_Goblin, just bought an amiga 500Mar 13 12:22
cubezzztoo good a deal to pass upMar 13 12:22
_Goblincubezzz: good work!Mar 13 12:22
cubezzzyeah I'll be able to finish some old projects finally :-0Mar 13 12:23
_GoblinI keep saying that myself.....never get around to doing it....Mar 13 12:23
cubezzzat least I'll have _one_ non x86 computerMar 13 12:23
_GoblinIve had some code which Ive been working on for about 4 years.....its only a simple rasterbar effect.....one day I'll finish it.Mar 13 12:24
cubezzzwell I have the zaurus, so I should say non x86 and non intel Mar 13 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @klang67 First UK twitter libel http://bbc.in/gu5cRp >>had to happen #twitter #libelMar 13 12:24
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cubezzzyou still own a classic amiga?Mar 13 12:24
_GoblinyepMar 13 12:24
_Goblinand a 1200Mar 13 12:24
cubezzzah niceMar 13 12:24
cubezzzI'll probably get the 1200 as wellMar 13 12:25
_GoblinI use UAE mainly though for my coding since I want to preserve my babies!Mar 13 12:25
cubezzzhmm, yes that is a concernMar 13 12:25
_Goblinthe issue is the diskdrive....Mar 13 12:25
_Goblinthat goes (as you know) its difficult to replaceMar 13 12:25
cubezzzI heard some folks have a way to fit a standard 3.5" drive on an amigaMar 13 12:26
cubezzzevidently it's similar enoughMar 13 12:26
_Goblinhow have they got around the controller?Mar 13 12:26
cubezzznot sure to be honestMar 13 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] URL Hunter! - http://bit.ly/gwwBGj "An experimental game using the URL bar as the game screen." now *that's* clever...Mar 13 12:27
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cubezzzchecking now...Mar 13 12:28
cubezzz_Goblin, there is the catweasel...Mar 13 12:28
_Goblinoh yes....I forgot.Mar 13 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What media player for !Fedora can handle multiple audio books and remember where I came to ?Mar 13 12:29
cubezzzand on some pc floppy drives they are really close to amiga driveMar 13 12:29
cubezzzjust a jumper change, so pretty easyMar 13 12:29
cubezzzyou just have to know your drive model #'s I guessMar 13 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At #Techdirt - http://bit.ly/eR144L meta-posts - and surprisingly fineMar 13 12:31
cubezzzChinon I believe is the best for amigaMar 13 12:31
cubezzzso one could in theory find a bunch of chinon drives and have the amiga work for a long timeMar 13 12:31
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cubezzzChinon FZ-354 and FZ-357Mar 13 12:32
cubezzzTeac and Panasonic/Matsushita are also reported to workMar 13 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from !BUSC proof read (just went there to introduce myself as part of the board). Now watching Die Hard 4.0. Yippiekay-yay!Mar 13 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Creedence, baby!!!!Mar 13 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Methinks Die Hard 4.0 is a movie for @jwildeboer. All the currency stuff...Mar 13 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is thistleweb with 153 dents!Mar 13 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I don't think that's my thing, asshole." LOL. John McLane rocks! :DMar 13 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mossgarden: lol there is a donald duck party in sweden :PMar 13 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Claims "App Store" is a Noun for Their Service http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/apple-claims-app-store-noun/Mar 13 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Monster sponsors a Formula 1 team now?Mar 13 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If this keeps going on, @th3k4ty can build an obsidian palace! :DMar 13 13:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: I fixed that popunder annoyance crap in ChromeMar 13 13:18
DaemonFCnow that AdblockPlus id blocking anything you have a rule fore, I loaded Fanboy's list + the annoyances and tracking add-onsMar 13 13:18
DaemonFCthen I used the hidden click to run plugin feature of ChromeMar 13 13:18
DaemonFCI haven't seen too many popups latelyMar 13 13:18
DaemonFCI suspect most of the crap generating them is either blocked by my filters or blocked because they can't use the 1 pixel flash applet trick to bypass adblock plusMar 13 13:19
DaemonFCwebsites like Phoronix brought the Adblock Plus problem down on themselvesMar 13 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Configure Touchpad http://tinyurl.com/6hkb5juMar 13 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith cameo! Now we're talkin'! :D #diehardMar 13 13:22
DaemonFCI think I'll use a boring Sunday afternoon to make a custom Fedora kernelMar 13 13:23
*DaemonFC has his eye set on 2.6.37.3 + BFQ + THP + BFSMar 13 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be PeppardmintOS with the message "I love it when a compile comes together" upon successful compile #ATeam #lamejokesMar 13 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not to be confused with "kevin smith playing a camel", which is in the deleted scenes lolMar 13 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the way McLane kicks women around the same way he kicks male ass. That's equality right there. :)Mar 13 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Black Atheists: Providing a Platform http://ur1.ca/3i8bx #AmericanAtheists #diversityMar 13 13:29
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DaemonFCI can't wait for tar.xz kernel source archivesMar 13 13:30
DaemonFCLinux is getting fairly bigMar 13 13:30
schestowitzIt's like you :-pMar 13 13:32
schestowitzIn Wal-Mart daysMar 13 13:32
schestowitzThe Wal-Martisation of LUNIXMar 13 13:33
DaemonFChuh?Mar 13 13:33
DaemonFCthey use SuseMar 13 13:33
DaemonFCand WindowsMar 13 13:33
schestowitzLinux is on high-fructose corn syrup dietMar 13 13:33
schestowitzLinus too got chubbierMar 13 13:33
schestowitzDid you see him in LCA?Mar 13 13:33
schestowitzNow he's fuller than BallmerMar 13 13:34
DaemonFCdevelopers!Mar 13 13:34
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 13:34
DaemonFCI'm hunting down all my USB devices to plug inMar 13 13:35
DaemonFCso that lsmod will see them when I run make localmodconfigMar 13 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why the hell is Nokia advertising Symbian smartphones? What a crass lie....Mar 13 13:36
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cubezzzwho is chubby?Mar 13 13:40
cubezzzLinus?Mar 13 13:40
cubezzzok, well just use old Linux if you want smallMar 13 13:41
schestowitzMore than beforeMar 13 13:42
cubezzzbeen on FC1 for 7 years now :)Mar 13 13:42
schestowitzCause he gets little exercise perhapsMar 13 13:42
cubezzzyeah it's a programmer issue...Mar 13 13:42
cubezzzI try to exercise at least 1/2 an hour per dayMar 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Oh sweet documentation, why the hell do you not exist for ruby/mysql?Mar 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh they need to dump old stockMar 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I still have 10 Diaspora invites left if anyone is interested, it has come a long way since late last year. !identiverseMar 13 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: 6 million #DNA profiles 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 13:44
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schestowitzcubezzz: it is...Mar 13 13:45
schestowitz_Goblin: nearly uploading nowMar 13 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh Because they didn't really gave up, they just added winphoney7 to their internal civil warMar 13 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith in Die Hard 4.0 kinda reminds me of @jontheniceguy. Must be the stormtrooper decoration... :DMar 13 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: The week in review – ending Sunday 13/03/2011 http://tinyurl.com/6dp95ppMar 13 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quilt Donation To The FilKONtario 21 Silent Auction: http://bit.ly/g8vkKv #filk #quilting #music #folkMar 13 13:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: the tune is very good, I listen to it on repeat modeMar 13 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New translations at !techrights http://ur1.ca/3i8uz http://ur1.ca/3i8v0Mar 13 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Twitter Tells Developers: You're Not Needed Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/twitter-developers-not-needed-anymore/Mar 13 14:06
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_Goblinschestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 14:06
schestowitzI think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 14:06
schestowitzIt's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 14:06
_Goblin:(Mar 13 14:06
schestowitz[21:06] <_Goblin> schestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 14:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> I think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 14:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> It's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 14:07
_GoblinI may well be going solo for a show...got some topics I want to cover that probably wouldn't work with 3 people.....more personal opinion/experiences....Mar 13 14:08
_GoblinI will make it EP 34.1 if I do.....Mar 13 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Brother advertises by telling people to stick their passwort on their monitor? WTF!?!?!?? OoMar 13 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The Sony Class Action's First Amended Complaint, as text - http://bit.ly/hC4pZC #sony #ps3 #dmca #groklawMar 13 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @lxnews I sure hope status.net doesn't do the same shit in order to be "twitter compatible"Mar 13 14:16
schestowitz_Goblin: sureMar 13 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh no! Mark didn't bother to take my arguments apart. How sad...... #sarcasmMar 13 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh I hope you know that no-one actually attempted to attack Chrome, Firefox, Android or WP7 at Pwn2Own 2011…Mar 13 14:24
DaemonFCwhy not Vista Phone 7?Mar 13 14:25
DaemonFCtoo obscure to have any widely known security bugs?Mar 13 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I already don't know what to believe in when it's related to Nokia :)Mar 13 14:26
*LifeMaskIsARetar is now known as MinceRMar 13 14:26
MinceReveryone knows it's irrelevantMar 13 14:26
MinceReveryone except mokia's major shareholders, that isMar 13 14:26
DaemonFCI have a Samsung phone running J2MEMar 13 14:26
DaemonFCit's passableMar 13 14:26
DaemonFCOpera Mini really salvages itMar 13 14:26
MinceRexcept that it's samsung and that it only runs j2me :>Mar 13 14:26
DaemonFCthe bundled Webkit browser freaks out on big pages and just complains that it won't fit into the phone's memoryMar 13 14:27
DaemonFCOpera loads them fineMar 13 14:27
MinceRthe webkit browser nokia bundles (BrowserNG) doesn't complain, it just quitsMar 13 14:27
MinceRit does that often on wikipediaMar 13 14:27
MinceRso i installed Opera Mobile insteadMar 13 14:28
DaemonFCof course Opera also compresses everything, which I doubt AT&T likes too muchMar 13 14:28
MinceRit works pretty wellMar 13 14:28
DaemonFCmore compression = less data they can ding me forMar 13 14:28
MinceRmore compression = lower quality images :>Mar 13 14:28
DaemonFCit's a phone...Mar 13 14:28
DaemonFCbesides, you CAN set it to only compress everything but imagesMar 13 14:28
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 14:28
MinceR"it's just a phone. isn't worth it."Mar 13 14:28
DaemonFCyou can save a little bit of data by only compressing HTMLMar 13 14:29
MinceRyou can often do that by telling the web server you accept gzipMar 13 14:29
DaemonFCOpera Mini is singlehandedly responsible for cutting my data bill in halfMar 13 14:29
DaemonFCthat crappy Webkit browser is a jokeMar 13 14:29
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DaemonFCcan't even remember what it's calledMar 13 14:29
MinceRs/isn't/not/Mar 13 14:30
DaemonFCwell, this is why Opera has customers, it's not possible to get decent results with Gecko or Webkit on a phoneMar 13 14:30
DaemonFCunless you deck out the CPU and beef up the battery and quadruple the RAMMar 13 14:30
MinceRi think it's possibleMar 13 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Highly unlikely and if they do we have AGPL. :DMar 13 14:31
MinceRi doubt that BrowserNG crashes because of khtml/webkitMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCWebkit is better than Gecko obviouslyMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCall aroundMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCon anythingMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCMiniMo flopped because nobody actually wanted to use it, even for freeMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCbecause its hardware requirements are too highMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCwebkit is faster, more standards compliant, and uses less resourcesMar 13 14:32
DaemonFCgiven a choice between the two, I see why everyone uses webkit on a phone instead of GeckoMar 13 14:32
DaemonFCbut if the phone maker doesn't totally cheap out, it has OperaMar 13 14:32
schestowitzMinceR: so what's your real name, Zoro?Mar 13 14:32
MinceRnopeMar 13 14:33
MinceRDaemonFC: because webkit is fashionable and gecko isn't? :>Mar 13 14:33
schestowitzZoltan?Mar 13 14:33
MinceRnopeMar 13 14:33
DaemonFCnot just fashionable, it's betterMar 13 14:33
MinceRkeep trying, there are only over 9000 more names to tryMar 13 14:33
DaemonFCnow, granted you can fuck it up by putting it in a bad browserMar 13 14:33
MinceRall the browsers i've seen so far were bad in one way or anotherMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCbut that's not the fault of Webkit, Safari sucks, a lot of these dinky no name Webkit browsers for phones like mine suckMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCOpera still has the best mobile browserMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCthat's sad when they not only have to compete with Microsoft, but also two FOSS projectsMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCI know Microsoft doesn't exactly set the bar high but you'd expect more out of free software than what's going on in Gecko or to a lesser extent, webkitMar 13 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview with man who claims he informed on Bradley Manning: A. Lamo http://is.gd/uc1zUM !wlMar 13 14:36
DaemonFCGecko simply has more $10,000 hammers and $20,000 toilet seats than WebkitMar 13 14:36
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DaemonFCand maybe some of those $50,000 coffee pots and $800 ashtrays :)Mar 13 14:36
MinceRthe web itself is a mess, they're probably tied up trying to deal with thatMar 13 14:36
DaemonFCa project that inefficient should be ran bu a governmentMar 13 14:36
DaemonFCfunny, Firefox is a joke, it's getting so bad they have to lie to cover up their own indifference and incompetence towards LinuxMar 13 14:37
DaemonFCthey blame broken drivers for their shitty OpenGL support, yet Chrome and Opera get along with OpenGL fineMar 13 14:37
DaemonFCon my "broken drivers"Mar 13 14:37
MinceRchrom{e,ium} is a worse jokeMar 13 14:38
DaemonFCif they're so broken, why does only Firefox have a problem with them? Why does everything else work fine?Mar 13 14:38
DaemonFCFirefox seems to like to grab random garbled data out of the card's back bufferMar 13 14:38
DaemonFCthat's not the fault of the driver for doing what Firefox tells it to doMar 13 14:39
DaemonFCthe driver is supposed to do what it's told, if Firefox is telling it to return the wrong data, they shouldn't bitch when they get the wrong data Mar 13 14:39
DaemonFCgranted it would be nice if the FGLRX command stream checker was as nifty as the radeon free driver'sMar 13 14:40
DaemonFCbut generally, it's not the job of the hardware or the driver to be psychic and know that a userspace app is being retardedMar 13 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We admire Mr Crowley, formerly of the US State Department, for speaking up for Bradley Manning. !wlMar 13 14:41
DaemonFCI'll use Firefox when it stops being retarded and starts asking the card to return the right dataMar 13 14:41
DaemonFCyou know, like Chrome doesMar 13 14:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 14:41
MinceRi'll use chrome when it stops being retarded and stops trying to crash the kernel when it crashesMar 13 14:42
MinceRyou know, like every other app doesn'tMar 13 14:42
DaemonFCbut fat chance that will ever happen as long as Mozilla is mostly just rubberneckers rushing to implement Microsoft technology that only works on WindowsMar 13 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man Jesus. The situation in #Japan looks more and more terrible. Multiple meltdowns, ten thousands dead....Mar 13 14:42
DaemonFCinstead of calling this out, many people are apologizing for itMar 13 14:42
MinceRplease remind me what os was chrome originally exclusively developed for because i forgotMar 13 14:43
MinceR:>Mar 13 14:43
DaemonFCyes Firefox is free software, no that doesn't excuse it from degrading like it has on anything non-WindowsMar 13 14:43
DaemonFCit doesn't even work right on a MacMar 13 14:43
MinceRwhat works right on a mac?Mar 13 14:43
DaemonFCtrueMar 13 14:43
MinceRthe price tag?Mar 13 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Wer künftig auf Atomkraft setzt, ist verantwortungslos." #RTLMar 13 14:44
DaemonFCChrome has basically been rewritten now that Google smells dollar signs from duct taping together a system loosely based on Linux and ChromeMar 13 14:44
DaemonFCin some ways, it works better on Linux than it does on WindowsMar 13 14:44
DaemonFCespecially regarding sandboxing, the APIs to do it on Windows are not all that greatMar 13 14:45
DaemonFCand easier to work aroundMar 13 14:45
DaemonFCthey have no real interest in anchoring it to Windows and pointing to Windows 7 when you ask what you have to do to make something work rightMar 13 14:45
DaemonFClike Mozilla doesMar 13 14:46
MinceRchrome probably works better without sandboxingMar 13 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Kenyan police accused of assassinating two human rights lawyers http://is.gd/NutpHk !wlMar 13 14:46
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DaemonFCthe SUID sandboxing is unobtrusive, the seccomp sandbox method has some kinksMar 13 14:46
DaemonFCbut it's mostly usableMar 13 14:46
DaemonFCFirefox doesn't sandbox at all, it's not even multithreadedMar 13 14:46
MinceRi won't let code from google run as root again on my boxesMar 13 14:47
DaemonFCthe only reason Firefox doesn't balloon to over a gig of RAM used up anymore is because they have a garbage reclaimer that they took from FreeBSDMar 13 14:47
MinceRi'm waiting for electrolysis to make it into an official ff releaseMar 13 14:47
DaemonFCthey had to use one licensed BSD because of their tri-license nonsenseMar 13 14:48
DaemonFCif they just relicensed all of Mozilla under the GPL, it would open up a lot more code to themMar 13 14:48
DaemonFCbut their mentality is more in line with BSDMar 13 14:48
DaemonFCsteal our code, please!Mar 13 14:49
DaemonFCrip us off, don't give back!Mar 13 14:49
MinceRexcept for trademarksMar 13 14:49
DaemonFCyou know Mozilla's quality is bad when Apple could have forked them under the BSD license and kept Safari closed sourceMar 13 14:49
DaemonFCand they took KHTML insteadMar 13 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linux #androidMar 13 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: and @danielmarti Read what I typed about #Ubuntu and #Canonical #Unity here :): http://identi.ca/conversation/66091074Mar 13 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Raster turbulence - !Gimp stuff http://ping.fm/lg92ZMar 13 14:51
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ah yes, the selective trademark licensingMar 13 14:51
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DaemonFCDebian can't call it Firefox, but Ubuntu can use all the same patches and then some, and it's FirefoxMar 13 14:51
DaemonFCit's all about quality control, right?Mar 13 14:51
DaemonFCnot singling anyone out :)Mar 13 14:51
DaemonFCbig companies scratch each others backs, it's why so much garbage that doesn't belong in Linux is in LinuxMar 13 14:52
DaemonFChv anyone?Mar 13 14:52
_GoblinI am a fish.Mar 13 14:53
DaemonFCthe staging tree has ballooned the kernel sources so much that it's about to exceed 100 megs as a tarballMar 13 14:53
DaemonFCthe only reason that is there is so they can pile in a bunch of crappy drivers without having to stand by any of themMar 13 14:54
_Goblincan't go wrong with drivers, crappy or otherwise.....Mar 13 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linuxMar 13 14:54
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DaemonFCa lot of companies now only get their drivers good enough to be in staging then they bailMar 13 14:54
DaemonFCand say they support linuxMar 13 14:54
DaemonFCit encourages bad drivers by offering to look the other way while the crap gets piled onMar 13 14:55
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_Goblinand its any different on Windows 7?Mar 13 14:55
_GoblinI know more than one person having real hardware probs with win7 and flatbed scanners.Mar 13 14:55
DaemonFCyeah, even Microsoft won't sign a driver that crashes too muchMar 13 14:55
DaemonFCyou crash too much, you risk getting your signing revokedMar 13 14:55
_Goblinso no support at all is better than partial?Mar 13 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Drunk Souls - Give me a sign on !jamendo #funky http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/1052Mar 13 14:56
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DaemonFCI'd rather them say do it right or don't bother, than put in a driver that randomly locks up my computer that most distros build by defaultMar 13 14:56
_GoblinIve never experienced that.....certainly not with Linux.Mar 13 14:57
_GoblinI did however experience that with Windows, hence I moved completely.Mar 13 14:57
DaemonFCunder the old system, by the time Ralink was allowed to merge the driver for my RT61, it was stable, now they just dump their new stuff into stagingMar 13 14:57
_Goblinmaybe Ive been luckyMar 13 14:57
DaemonFCand it crashes and freezes the kernel randomlyMar 13 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Manufacturer and handset market share in an !android app with google analytics | Stealthcopter.com http://ping.fm/TjblVMar 13 14:57
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_Goblinno such thing as random.......theres a good discussion for the channel.Mar 13 14:58
_Goblintheres order in chaos and all that.Mar 13 14:58
DaemonFCWell, the kernel.org people have said if anything taints your kernel, they don't want your bug reportsMar 13 14:58
DaemonFCso if you load staging drivers, FGLRX, nvidia, or ndiswrapper, you can't submit bugsMar 13 14:58
DaemonFCeven if it's unrelatedMar 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Prodigy - OmenMar 13 14:59
schestowitz_Goblin: I listen to the show now, which I never do (I don't like hearing myself) and it seems like I interrupted you a lot. I hadn't noticed.Mar 13 14:59
_Goblinand thats a big issue is it? this is what the mainstream is wanting is it?Mar 13 14:59
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....never been an issue, its part of the charm....Mar 13 15:00
DaemonFCbefore staging, a lot of this crap ended up in mmMar 13 15:00
DaemonFCno distro was crazy enough to use mmMar 13 15:00
DaemonFClife was good :)Mar 13 15:00
schestowitzuploading at 6k/secondMar 13 15:01
_Goblinlol.Mar 13 15:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 15:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 15:02
_Goblinschestowitz: sounds like you;ve been throttled and branded an evil pirate......that'll teach you for sharing your own materialMar 13 15:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: Considered satellite?Mar 13 15:03
_Goblinor carrier pigeonMar 13 15:03
DaemonFCor telegraphMar 13 15:03
DaemonFCI hear there's this transatlantic cableMar 13 15:04
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Bored #shitless :|Mar 13 15:04
DaemonFCugh, it's been so long since I used one of my systems I had it using radeonhdMar 13 15:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And even if they get this shit cooled down, they'll have a partially melted reactor core to deal with. This is already a disaster regardlessMar 13 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Chernobyl sarcophagus will have to be there for like 300 years. Imagine that in Japan. Plutonium half life is like 80 years....Mar 13 15:09
_GoblinI think I'm going to play Trinity on the PS3Mar 13 15:11
_Goblinyeah, why not....Mar 13 15:11
_Goblinschestowitz: FYI Gordon came up with a good name for tonights ep: "done on a dongle"Mar 13 15:12
schestowitzLOLMar 13 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody who after this *again* tries to argue for nuclear power needs to be shot on sight to cleanse the gene pool. Gimme a fucking break!Mar 13 15:14
schestowitz[22:03] <_Goblin> or carrier pigeonMar 13 15:15
schestowitz"Done on a pigeon"Mar 13 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @sebsebseb why do you prefer gnome shell over unity?Mar 13 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please tell @PJCrowley (Clinton spokesperson who resigned over WikiLeaks/Manning) that you support his courage. !wlMar 13 15:16
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....Mar 13 15:16
schestowitzploaded 2.7 MB..Mar 13 15:17
schestowitzOut of 32 MBMar 13 15:17
schestowitzseems like an overnight upload... welcome back to 28.8 daze..Mar 13 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke Phone Etiquette - Part 2 http://goo.gl/x0gvaMar 13 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede: !Canonical and !GNOME: the Atlantic chasm? http://goo.gl/UFkAsMar 13 15:17
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schestowitz[22:02] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 15:18
DaemonFCI hope Fedora 15 doesn't ship with Mesa 7.10Mar 13 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to bed. Last night I actually had a nightmare I was in an exploded nuclear plant. That was terrible. Stay save #Japan! I feel 4 you!Mar 13 15:19
DaemonFC7.11 is so much faster on my EvergreenMar 13 15:19
schestowitzI reckon ISPs also think it's "an act of piracy" when you pass audio files via FTP (very retro, before napster days)Mar 13 15:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: The open source radeon driver is faster on my laptop's RV480 than Catalyst ever wasMar 13 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://alturl.com/2bkuo !wlMar 13 15:21
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DaemonFCalso, Catalyst only ever got up to OpenGL 2.0 before dumping it even though the card is 2.1 capableMar 13 15:21
schestowitzIt looks to them like illicit stuffMar 13 15:21
schestowitz"Slow it, Jim, slow it!"Mar 13 15:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: what OS are you on now?Mar 13 15:21
DaemonFCthis system = Fedora 14 but I've made some modifications B-)Mar 13 15:22
DaemonFCI have Linux 2.6.38-rc8, I patched the FGLRX glue layer to support itMar 13 15:23
DaemonFCtrivial, like 3 lines, I got the patch from ArchMar 13 15:23
DaemonFCI also got their patch to make FGLRX not depend on the Big Kernel LockMar 13 15:23
DaemonFCso my kernel has no BKL since that was the only thing I had that used itMar 13 15:24
DaemonFCthe kernel has all the realtime stuff enabled, BFS, BFQ, BFQ group scheduler Mar 13 15:24
DaemonFCremoval of every feature I don't need and every driver I don't useMar 13 15:24
DaemonFCthe RPM package for my kernel only ended up being like 30 megsMar 13 15:25
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 15:25
DaemonFCthere's also a lot of "while I'm in here anyway" stuff, like setting max CPUs to 4 and max GPUs to 2Mar 13 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://alturl.com/nj7ew !wlMar 13 15:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I typically compile stuff within YakuakeMar 13 15:27
DaemonFCthen all I have to do is hit F12 and see how it's coming along :)Mar 13 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/13/crowley-manning-resignation/ http://bit.ly/dRtbasMar 13 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 15:34
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_Goblingn mateMar 13 15:34
schestowitzmight take 20 hours to uploadMar 13 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: #WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/13/ap/eu... http://bit.ly/dTfQEBMar 13 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Court Rules Government Can Collect Private Records of Twitter Users » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union htMar 13 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] And my marriage anniversary as well (intentionally) ♺ @gbraad: Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Off to mountain viewMar 13 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Crowley resignation letter: "The exercise of power must be prudent and consistent with our laws and values" !wlMar 13 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sleeveroller: RT @vGuyUK: explanation of #Fukushima incident by Josef Oehman at MIT: http://t.co/xgjDZVl #japanMar 13 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad hehehehMar 13 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My uncool secret. I really like Porridge :)Mar 13 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @toros: !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with Unity!Mar 13 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with #Unity!Mar 13 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Time for bed.Mar 13 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Experimental 3D Acceleration of Nouveau works well. I don't feel the desire to install the Nvidia propritary binary blob #freesoftwareMar 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Surviving Disaster: Japan’s Internet http://is.gd/LEkL9JMar 13 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Welcome @ferguskelly :)Mar 13 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Congratulations! Get's an identity like @lilbernie ;) ♺ @macno: Maddalena is born!!!!! She and her mom are fine!Mar 13 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @njpatel Resizing dash and properly collapsing homeview http://is.gd/s6D3sF . Now time for FIFA11!Mar 13 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canvas Rider seems to be an HTML5 game? http://canvasrider.com/Mar 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] spot the astroturfers in the comments http://tighturl.com/303a they're so obvious they may as well wear name badgesMar 13 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Hacker,now in hiding,who turned in #Manning accused over WikiLeaks,says he got "coffee and a pat on the back" !wikileaks http://is.gd/uc1zUMMar 13 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm guessing. I can never work games out :)Mar 13 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So this Google circles is scheduled for May now, not imminent at all?Mar 13 16:24
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MinceRi like having a big pile of drivers if it means good hw supportMar 13 16:25
MinceRas for crApple's choice of html renderer, who gives a fuck what those retards think is good?Mar 13 16:26
MinceRthe same people who came up with darwin...Mar 13 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Social Media Monitoring in the Russian Speaking Internet « Social media lessons from Russia and the UK http://ping.fm/CV94jMar 13 16:31
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Ender2070they use webkit afaikMar 13 16:33
Ender2070nothing wrong with thatMar 13 16:33
MinceRbut it's hardly an argument for itMar 13 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Twitter explains... but your comments don't really cover new !Opensource !twitter clients that don't need to make money, @rsarver ? http://pMar 13 16:37
Ender2070there isn't much out there that is better than webkitMar 13 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The link that got clipped referred to the NextWeb story @rsarver http://tnw.co/dEc7ISMar 13 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If you developed (or are developing) a 3rd party #Twitter app, this is the time to move over to #StatusNet. Twitter doesn't want you anymoreMar 13 16:57
tessierschestowitz: What's wrong with varnish?Mar 13 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @zach: @macno Big congrats! +1Mar 13 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lights have flickered a few times in the last few mins, it's like the flat is under attack and the emergency power is cutting inMar 13 17:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: Just be glad you don't live upstairs from the family in The Hills Have EyesMar 13 17:48
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 17:48
DaemonFChow often do they update RadeonFeature?Mar 13 17:53
DaemonFCit says HDMI audio doesn't work on EvergreenMar 13 17:53
DaemonFCmine has been working for monthsMar 13 17:53
DaemonFCmost of the Cayman Islands support was copypasting EvergreenMar 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 @psquid Fedora 11 is now 100% ready for you to use html tables for *data* best shown in rows and columns. This is weirdMar 13 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lamo: Manning 'led on' by Assange. New claim that bolsters US govt extradition case. Why now? http://bit.ly/fPeBJp !wlMar 13 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @nybill: @macno Congratulations you two!Mar 13 18:22
DaemonFCyou no longer have to pass icantbelieveitsnotbtr on the kernel line to enable BtrFS in AnacondaMar 13 18:28
DaemonFCbut since Fedora is still using Grub 0.97, you have to have a separate /boot partitionMar 13 18:28
DaemonFChehMar 13 18:28
DaemonFChttp://libav.org/Mar 13 18:29
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DaemonFCmakes more sense than ffmpegMar 13 18:29
DaemonFCjust because mpeg formats are only a few of the formats they supportMar 13 18:29
MinceRbut can it decode h.264 and vc-1 with frame-level parallelism?Mar 13 18:30
DaemonFCfuck if I care, it plays my bootlegged xvi......errr I mean....Mar 13 18:31
DaemonFCmy home movies in Ogg TheoraMar 13 18:31
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 18:31
MinceR:>Mar 13 18:31
DaemonFCVC-1 was the format Microsoft was trying to declare open with patent grants to everyoneMar 13 18:32
DaemonFCbut the MPEG-LA formed a patent pool over itMar 13 18:33
MinceRi knowMar 13 18:33
MinceRthere are people stupid enough to do rips in vc-1Mar 13 18:33
MinceReven though nobody wants to support itMar 13 18:33
DaemonFCit is part of the Blu Ray standard, though only a handful of discs use itMar 13 18:33
DaemonFCH.264 provides better quality and is the same price to licenseMar 13 18:33
DaemonFCwhy screw around with VC-1?Mar 13 18:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:33
MinceRah, so it was probably the disc's faultMar 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Rule of thumb - if your new follower's picture is of an attractive woman with a nice set of boobs, it's probably a spammer :)Mar 13 18:34
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would use VC-1 on a Blu RayMar 13 18:34
DaemonFCkind of beats the point of zomg qualityMar 13 18:34
DaemonFCbetween the two, h.264 is the better formatMar 13 18:35
DaemonFCVC-1 compares mostly to MPEG-4 ASP codecs like DivXMar 13 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter "set" is an odd term in this context, it implies various numbers ;PMar 13 18:36
DaemonFCWebM is somewhere between DivX and x264 quality wiseMar 13 18:36
DaemonFCthe main reasons to use it are because it's supposedly unpatented and it beats DivXMar 13 18:36
DaemonFCI'm not so sure about unpatented, not to FUD WebM, but just because who knows how a 90 year old judge, a nurse, a plumber, a school teacher, a few used car salesmen, etc. on the jury will decideMar 13 18:37
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:38
DaemonFCthere's how this patent system furthers itselfMar 13 18:38
DaemonFCthey pack the jury with incompetents who can't even turn a computer onMar 13 18:38
DaemonFCand ask them to decide software patent casesMar 13 18:38
DaemonFCso even if WebM doesn't violate the patent, they still may rule that it does just because the patent is vague and the jury is composed of tech illiterates and there's some lawyer razzle dazzling them in his $5,000 suitMar 13 18:40
DaemonFConce it gets into the appeals court, it could actually be worse because the president handpicks those judgesMar 13 18:41
DaemonFCbetter hope it doesn't go to an Obama appointeeMar 13 18:41
DaemonFCwe know his admin is in bed with the MAFIAAMar 13 18:42
MinceR:>Mar 13 18:42
MinceRso's the corporate puppet himselfMar 13 18:42
DaemonFCyeah, his job is to sugar coat the gigantic turd that's about to hit usMar 13 18:42
DaemonFCthat's why they appointed himMar 13 18:43
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_large&num=2Mar 13 18:43
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DaemonFCwhat's with the BtrFS hype?Mar 13 18:43
DaemonFCnobody should be using that on an SSDMar 13 18:44
sebsebsebDaemonFC: What's with the Ubuntu hype?Mar 13 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter well, the triple breasted whore from erotica 4 was popular enough to make it into the hitch-hikers guide to the galaxyMar 13 18:44
DaemonFCwith an SSD you're better off with Ext4, no journaling, noatimeMar 13 18:44
sebsebsebMinceR: How come your no sleeping?Mar 13 18:44
DaemonFCall the journal will do for an SSD is slow it down and wear it out fasterMar 13 18:45
MinceRsebsebseb: there's a national holiday on the 15thMar 13 18:45
MinceRand the workday on the 14th was moved to saturdayMar 13 18:45
DaemonFCHungarian Freedom DayMar 13 18:45
MinceR(but i'll probably take saturday off anyway)Mar 13 18:45
sebsebsebMinceR: ohMar 13 18:45
DaemonFCthey all gather round Stalin's BootsMar 13 18:45
DaemonFCand singing Mar 13 18:45
DaemonFCit's quite beautifulMar 13 18:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:45
MinceRDaemonFC: btrfs is one of the two fs-es that has support for TRIM, afaikMar 13 18:45
DaemonFCnopeMar 13 18:46
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DaemonFCXFS supports TRIMMar 13 18:46
MinceRit also has an ssd mode, iirc, but moronix says it actually makes things worseMar 13 18:46
sebsebsebMinceR: what's your job anyway?Mar 13 18:46
DaemonFCit's called DISCARDMar 13 18:46
MinceRoh.Mar 13 18:46
MinceRbtrfs is one of the two relevant fs-es that has support for TRIM, afaikMar 13 18:46
MinceRthere you go :>Mar 13 18:46
MinceRsebsebseb: i'm a software developerMar 13 18:46
DaemonFC:(Mar 13 18:46
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah for WindowsMar 13 18:46
MinceRsebsebseb: ?Mar 13 18:47
sebsebsebMinceR: in fact even worse, for Microsoft HungaryMar 13 18:47
DaemonFCMinceR: I run Ext4 with nobarrierMar 13 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @GuidoPuddi: RT @GroupAnon: Stick around guys, You'll love what we've got for you early on Monday! #anonops #anonymous #BofAMar 13 18:47
MinceRsebsebseb: what are you on about?Mar 13 18:47
DaemonFCit's a lot less dangerous than they make it soundMar 13 18:47
sebsebsebMinceR: heh hehMar 13 18:47
DaemonFCwith XFS you want barriers unless it's battery backed upMar 13 18:48
DaemonFCExt4 is not that dangerous without barriers because it keeps the journal ordered and contiguous Mar 13 18:48
DaemonFCXFS doesn't try to do eitherMar 13 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Decentralized global rebellion against Neoliberal economic policies http://bit.ly/fWHgvg link between Wisconsin Egypt & TunisiaMar 13 18:49
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DaemonFCdisable barriers and watch how quick Ext4 is at things like unpacking kernel tarballsMar 13 18:49
DaemonFC30% faster or soMar 13 18:49
sebsebsebMinceR: What software you make and for what?Mar 13 18:50
sebsebseboh and languages?Mar 13 18:50
DaemonFCbarriers make less sense on Ext3 because it doesn't have delayed allocation or extentsMar 13 18:50
DaemonFCI'd say turning it off there is a no brainerMar 13 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jamesroughton: Drupal Information is out http://bit.ly/h7P9QQ ▸ Top stories today via @t4tom @malcolm8 @delcerro @_the_mad_hatter @prowpMar 13 18:51
MinceRsebsebseb: currently some medical imaging sw for GE HealthcareMar 13 18:51
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sebsebsebMinceR: what's GE?Mar 13 18:51
MinceRsebsebseb: C++ and a bit of BASH scripting (with some AWK and whatever)Mar 13 18:51
MinceRsebsebseb: general electricMar 13 18:51
DaemonFCit's the default mount option on Ext3 (barriers on) lately because apparently someone felt the need to make ext3 even slowerMar 13 18:51
sebsebsebI didn't know their  is a langauge called AWKMar 13 18:51
DaemonFCMinceR: GE makes good percolatorsMar 13 18:52
DaemonFCI have two of themMar 13 18:52
DaemonFCone is from the 1950s and still worksMar 13 18:52
MinceRsebsebseb: it's common on unixesMar 13 18:52
sebsebsebMinceR: ohMar 13 18:52
DaemonFCI switched to percolators because there's hard water hereMar 13 18:53
DaemonFCand they're difficult to jam upMar 13 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Celebratory Dinner! If you missed it, this is what we're celebrating: http://twurl.nl/lpvy7jMar 13 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Who's on the New York Times extended bestseller list? Who screamed until her lungs hurt? THAT WOULD BE ME.Mar 13 18:54
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DaemonFCExt4 is still much faster than BtrFSMar 13 18:54
DaemonFCbut BtrFS has all those features, the ones I don't needMar 13 18:54
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:54
DaemonFCwhatever happened to tar as a backup tool? wimpsMar 13 18:55
DaemonFC:PMar 13 18:55
MinceRDaemonFC: tar and readonly snapshots are orthogonalMar 13 18:55
DaemonFCthese companies like automation because that way they can fire peopleMar 13 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] If you haven't read anything by @seananmcguire yet, you really should. She's a damned fine author, getting better with every book.Mar 13 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Corporate media smears WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/qn28o !wlMar 13 18:56
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MinceRDaemonFC: dey took our jerbs!Mar 13 18:57
DaemonFCyeahMar 13 18:57
MinceRyou can make a readonly snapshot of a consistent state of the fs, and resume work on the fs while you tar it up for backupMar 13 18:57
DaemonFCthere are a few of those benchmarks where BtrFS destroys Ext4Mar 13 18:58
DaemonFCbut it seems to be the exceptionMar 13 18:58
MinceRext4 in blackholefs or ext4 with ext3-like workarounds?Mar 13 18:59
MinceRs/in/as in/Mar 13 18:59
DaemonFCExt4 now defaults to mimicking Ext3's behavior in cases of replace via renameMar 13 18:59
DaemonFCthat doesn't really cost a lot of speedMar 13 19:00
MinceRusing an unreliable heuristicMar 13 19:00
DaemonFCbarrier is what killed Ext4Mar 13 19:00
MinceRbecause who cares if your data will be there, all that matters is speedMar 13 19:00
MinceRand by the way, we want you to build the GUI into the kernel, for speedMar 13 19:00
DaemonFCthe hard disk is already the slowest thing in the computerMar 13 19:00
DaemonFCwhy do we have to make it slower? :)Mar 13 19:01
MinceRit is also the only thing that will store a lot of your data while the computer is off or being rebootedMar 13 19:01
DaemonFCthere are those high RPM drives, which are a lot of fun when they crashMar 13 19:01
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 19:01
MinceRnot so fun if there's mission critical data on them when they do soMar 13 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @DFAIT_MAECI Minister #Cannon: CF assets, incl airlift, personnel, R offered 2 for humanitarian efforts in #Japan.Mar 13 19:04
DaemonFCMinceR: I've got one for youMar 13 19:09
DaemonFCWhy does Western Digital sell hard drives in 20 packs?Mar 13 19:09
DaemonFCBecause that way you might find one that works.Mar 13 19:09
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:09
MinceR:>Mar 13 19:09
MinceRi have yet to find one that doesn'tMar 13 19:09
MinceRmeanwhile, my seagate didn't last longMar 13 19:10
DaemonFC3 TB hard drivesMar 13 19:11
DaemonFCDo you want that on one partition (Linux) or two (Windows)?Mar 13 19:12
MinceR3TB is more than i'd trust winblows to manageMar 13 19:12
DaemonFCby the time you hit 2 TB, NTFS is using 64K clustersMar 13 19:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 19:12
DaemonFCthe more capacity you have, the more Windows wastesMar 13 19:13
DaemonFCso far it manages to waste enough to neutralize all attempts at upgrading a PCMar 13 19:14
DaemonFCcommendable Mar 13 19:14
MinceR:>Mar 13 19:14
*sebsebseb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Mar 13 19:16
DaemonFCyou have a dual core? Here's Vista no with 300 system servicesMar 13 19:17
DaemonFCbetter buy more RAM while you're outMar 13 19:17
DaemonFC*nowMar 13 19:17
MinceRbetter buy 4G and have vista only use 3.12G or so of itMar 13 19:17
MinceRinstall SP1 to make vista hide this fact from youMar 13 19:18
DaemonFCthat's 32 bit VistaMar 13 19:18
MinceRoh well, a toy system for toy tasksMar 13 19:18
DaemonFCif you bought anything less than Ultimate,you had to send in a coupon and your Vista disc and wait 3 weeks toe get the 64-bit version back in the mailMar 13 19:18
DaemonFCand if you got 32-bit OEM, you're stuck with itMar 13 19:18
MinceRand then finally you have the version that has no drivers and breaks with most of your apps?Mar 13 19:19
MinceRand who didn't get winblows OEM? it's not like buyers get a choiceMar 13 19:19
DaemonFCthere's 64-bit drivers out for just about everythingMar 13 19:19
DaemonFCmost OEMs are shipping the 64-bit version of Windows nowMar 13 19:19
MinceRwhat about older apps and peripherals?Mar 13 19:20
DaemonFCit says on the box which version it isMar 13 19:20
abeNd-orgdell still offers vista32 on a lot of their workstations, kinda amusingMar 13 19:20
MinceRdHell calling the crap they have the audacity to sell "workstations" is also kind of amusingMar 13 19:21
DaemonFC" Edward Shishkin, one of the Reiser4 developers now working for Red Hat, was asked in Q2/2010 to take a detailed look into Btrfs. He judged that its design was 'completely broken', as certain design flaws could lead to large (unbounded) amounts of unusable 'free space'.[12][13][14]"Mar 13 19:21
DaemonFChehMar 13 19:21
MinceRDaemonFC: also, now you get to dual boot 32bit vista with 64bit vistaMar 13 19:21
MinceRthat must be fun tooMar 13 19:22
DaemonFCwhy would anyone do that?Mar 13 19:22
DaemonFChttp://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/18/144Mar 13 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LKML: Edward Shishkin: Btrfs: broken file system design (was Unbound(?) internal fragmentation in Btrfs) .::. Size~: 18.33 KBMar 13 19:22
abeNd-orgtheir optiplex machines are pretty good, & their precision line are real nice, but if you judge dell by their dimension/vostro lines then thats selling dell shortMar 13 19:22
MinceRi judge dHell by their inspiron and latitude linesMar 13 19:23
abeNd-orginspiron is just consumer grade junk, the precision laptops are greatMar 13 19:23
MinceRthey're all RoadReady™, according to dHellMar 13 19:24
MinceRalso, dHell's trackpoint imitation kind of sucksMar 13 19:24
MinceRit sometimes just keeps on going when you let go of itMar 13 19:24
abeNd-orgthey just oem the same touchpad as everyone elseMar 13 19:25
MinceRit's not a touchpadMar 13 19:25
MinceRand they obviously couldn't copy the original (ThinkPad) implementation due to patentsMar 13 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Maybe the #ATTDataCaps will finally mobilize enough people to push Congress to separate owning the copper/fiber from providing ISP services.Mar 13 19:26
abeNd-orgsynaptics touchpad, same as on the hp im onMar 13 19:26
MinceRi'm still not talking about the touchpadMar 13 19:26
MinceRbut the trackpoint :>Mar 13 19:26
abeNd-orgah, i havent really putzed with the mousenubMar 13 19:27
MinceR:)Mar 13 19:27
MinceRit wasn't easy for me but i've grown to like itMar 13 19:27
MinceRespecially after installing the concave capMar 13 19:27
abeNd-orgi keep a retractable mouse in my bag for use, the trackpad & mousenub (even on thinkpads) bug meMar 13 19:28
MinceRi tend to prefer a mouse too, so i carry my G9x oftenMar 13 19:28
abeNd-orgthat is one crazy mouseMar 13 19:30
MinceRit works wonders in deathmatch :>Mar 13 19:30
abeNd-orgheh, i don't have time to play games anymoreMar 13 19:31
abeNd-orgor do anything else other than workMar 13 19:31
MinceRsadly i have very little time to play gamesMar 13 19:33
abeNd-orgim pretty bad about prioritization lately though, but being stuck in traffic for 4hrs a day tends to make me not give a rip by the time i get homeMar 13 19:35
abeNd-orgtraffic makes me really hate humanity these daysMar 13 19:36
abeNd-orgfoot on gas people, is it really that hard? </minirant>Mar 13 19:37
abeNd-orgat least i get to listen to audiobooksMar 13 19:37
abeNd-orgive wiped out the collection of most of the libraries around the areaMar 13 19:37
*enthymeme (~kraken@cpe-76-171-245-75.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #techrightsMar 13 19:38
MinceRtraffic makes me hate humanity too, but in many more ways than thatMar 13 19:38
MinceRfor example, you might assume that walking is a skill most humans learn in early childhoodMar 13 19:38
abeNd-orgpeople admire traffic wrecks so much, that they end up in them after rubbernecking..Mar 13 19:39
MinceR:>Mar 13 19:39
MinceRof course budapest's puny road system doesn't help eitherMar 13 19:39
abeNd-orgi wish the highway dept would build higher dividers between the roadways, that way people would stop slowing down & drooling over wrecks going the total opposite way that have affect on traffic going their wayMar 13 19:39
abeNd-orgbudapest, so that is where you are out of? never knew your location in this little worldMar 13 19:40
MinceRit's the joke of a city i live inMar 13 19:41
abeNd-orgI live in DFW (dallas) which has no mass transit to speak of (not that my job would lend itself to using it anyways)Mar 13 19:43
MinceRwell, mass transport in budapest is about as atrocious as the road systemMar 13 19:44
MinceRand of course there's no bicycle road network so that method is pretty much slow suicideMar 13 19:44
MinceRi wonder if people west from here are as barbaric as hereMar 13 19:45
abeNd-orgyou put someone behind the wheel in any country & they become braveMar 13 19:45
abeNd-orgits like commenters on the internetMar 13 19:45
abeNd-orgonly with a few tons of metalMar 13 19:45
MinceRthat's why i want to upgrade my car to a SUV or an APC or a tank or a mechaMar 13 19:45
MinceRit's war out thereMar 13 19:46
abeNd-orgdude i just want a jetpackMar 13 19:46
abeNd-orgskip the roads, just fly directly to the clientMar 13 19:46
DaemonFCif you ride a bicycle here people will honk at you and purposely try to run you off the roadMar 13 19:47
abeNd-orgin most stateside college towns they have bike linesMar 13 19:48
abeNd-orglanesMar 13 19:48
MinceRwe have sporadic bike lanes and bike pathsMar 13 19:49
MinceRbut not enough to get far without having to risk one's life among carsMar 13 19:49
MinceR(and of course most drivers are in suicide mode)Mar 13 19:49
MinceR(for example, switching lanes is "elbow your way into the other lane without signaling and hope the other guy brakes to avoid a collision")Mar 13 19:50
DaemonFChave to get home, can't spend 1 second avoiding guy on bicycle, SPLAT!Mar 13 19:50
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:50
abeNd-orgthat sounds pretty universalMar 13 19:50
MinceR:)Mar 13 19:50
MinceRsee, that's the tank is forMar 13 19:50
MinceR("are you sure you want to risk that collision?")Mar 13 19:50
abeNd-orgthats why i wont drive a motorcycle around town either, sure the gas mileage would be great! but every single person I know of that rides a motorcycle around town has been in an accident, & most not their faultMar 13 19:51
DaemonFCMinceR: I don't want a tank, I want James Bond's Aston Martin with the stinger missiles and suchMar 13 19:51
abeNd-orgoh yea, a tank, i used to drive a 1988 lincoln towncar, that thing was beautiful!Mar 13 19:51
DaemonFCadaptive camoflauge evenMar 13 19:51
MinceRDaemonFC: you'd run out of ammo pretty quickly in budapestMar 13 19:51
DaemonFCthat's what the pit maneuver is forMar 13 19:52
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:52
abeNd-org4,040 poundsMar 13 19:52
DaemonFCI was watching COPS one night where a 15 year old in a stolen Cadillac used the pit maneuver on the copsMar 13 19:53
abeNd-org219.2 in longMar 13 19:53
DaemonFCthat was some funny shitMar 13 19:53
MinceRabeNd-org: sure, but does it look menacing enough?Mar 13 19:54
DaemonFCMinceR: I know COPS is propaganda, don't start. It's just funny watching white trailer trash and black crack whores and illegal Mexicans getting their asses kickedMar 13 19:54
DaemonFCis that so wrong, really? :)Mar 13 19:54
DaemonFCput down the 40 and buy some new fillingsMar 13 19:55
DaemonFCdayumMar 13 19:55
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:55
abeNd-orgmincer yesMar 13 19:55
abeNd-orgMinceR: the lincoln hood ornament for that year still stuck out, & is a crosshairsMar 13 19:55
MinceR:DMar 13 19:55
DaemonFCin other words, perfect for those pesky pedestriansMar 13 19:56
DaemonFCif it was only a bit longer, we could make a shishkabob out of themMar 13 19:56
DaemonFC:(Mar 13 19:56
MinceRyou don't get bonus points for hitting the pedestrian with the frontMar 13 19:56
MinceR:>Mar 13 19:56
abeNd-orgi never paid attention to the fuel economy, but i do miss it, people on the road would move out of my wayMar 13 19:56
DaemonFCwell, gas is $3.64 a gallonMar 13 19:57
abeNd-orgit used to belong to an old florida couple, so i left all the old people bumper stickers on it so people thought i was an elderly person driving it, which kept people even further away from me while i was on the road :)Mar 13 19:57
DaemonFCso much for the gas guzzlers, the rich people now have sole claim to the V8 engine tooMar 13 19:58
abeNd-orgyea, i got rid of that car for a gas sipper years agoMar 13 19:58
abeNd-orgno way i could afford it nowMar 13 19:58
DaemonFCMinceR: next thing that hits the market is a wind up carMar 13 19:58
DaemonFCI guarantee itMar 13 19:58
abeNd-orga nice little kia :DMar 13 19:59
DaemonFCand you'll still have eco terrorists complaining that you had to consume food to get the energy to wind it withMar 13 19:59
DaemonFCand how dare you have meat loaf for dinner before winding your toy carMar 13 19:59
DaemonFCfascistMar 13 19:59
DaemonFChitlerMar 13 19:59
DaemonFCnaziMar 13 19:59
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 19:59
abeNd-orgthose eco terrorists should end themselves to do the world a big favorMar 13 19:59
DaemonFCThere's plenty of room for all of god's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes Mar 13 20:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:00
MinceRDaemonFC: mechanical hybrid? :>Mar 13 20:00
abeNd-orgeww, i like my mashed potatoes, keep the eco terrorists awayMar 13 20:00
MinceRi've already seen stuff about air pressure-based hybridsMar 13 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @missoularedhead: RT @AtheistQ: Here's a tip: if you're killing someone in the name of god you're missing the message Nick Annis #atheistMar 13 20:01
DaemonFCMinceR: I told my brother to turn all that shit in his room off before Al Gore makes a movie about himMar 13 20:01
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:01
MinceRDaemonFC: also, i'm not sure if eco terrorists are good for youMar 13 20:01
DaemonFCyeah, they tend to eat AlfalfaMar 13 20:01
DaemonFCthey look sickly and deprived of B vitaminsMar 13 20:01
DaemonFCyou don't know where that hippie has been, spit it outMar 13 20:02
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 20:02
abeNd-orgthey cant taste very good eitherMar 13 20:02
MinceRthey probably still eat all sorts of artificial stuff you don't wantMar 13 20:02
MinceRalso, medicinesMar 13 20:02
abeNd-orgugh, over the counter druggies lolMar 13 20:02
DaemonFCI just find it amusing that the vegans all claim that they're healthy when they look like they could be blown over by a stiff breezeMar 13 20:03
DaemonFCabeNd-org: Most of the people who refuse medical attention do it for religious reasons. Normally I would encourage this, but they tend to only get this religious when it comes to minors in their custody.Mar 13 20:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:04
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: you mean the same type of vegan women who refuse to shaveMar 13 20:04
DaemonFChehMar 13 20:05
DaemonFCthis is why I like being a manMar 13 20:05
DaemonFCdon't have to shave my armpitsMar 13 20:05
DaemonFCor legsMar 13 20:05
DaemonFCor any assorted pubic areasMar 13 20:05
DaemonFCI don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't DIE!Mar 13 20:05
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 20:05
abeNd-orghehMar 13 20:06
abeNd-orgive met one, she would wear fairly short skirts, yet had legs far hairier than most menMar 13 20:07
abeNd-orgnot a big fat lady, but one of those blow over in a slight wind kinda womenMar 13 20:07
DaemonFCdid you shoot her and tell the police that with god as your witness you thought it was bigfoot?Mar 13 20:08
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 20:08
MinceRlolMar 13 20:09
DaemonFCor one of the gelfsMar 13 20:10
DaemonFC(Red Dwarf)Mar 13 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF is at the #aclu #sxsw at Maggie Mae's, partying like it's 1986. Come join us!Mar 13 20:11
DaemonFCMinceR: I may just have to install to BtrFS and see what I can see about itMar 13 20:11
DaemonFCI tried it with Linux 2.6.29 and it was slooooowMar 13 20:12
DaemonFCbut, that was a few years agoMar 13 20:12
MinceRi'll wait until it ships with progsMar 13 20:12
DaemonFCthe functional btrfsck should be in Ubuntu 11.04Mar 13 20:13
*DaemonFC feels dirty when trying to pronounce btrfsckMar 13 20:13
*DaemonFC giggles childishlyMar 13 20:13
DaemonFCwell, you should be ok as long as the filesystem doesn't become inconsistentMar 13 20:14
DaemonFCI mean, there's only about a million reasons why that can happenMar 13 20:15
DaemonFCwhat are the chances? :)Mar 13 20:15
DaemonFCanyone using BtrFS without a working fsck is insaneMar 13 20:15
DaemonFCthey're one file system error away from losing everything on that partitionMar 13 20:15
DaemonFC"Hehe, I yanked my power cord and it ated my home folder, now what?"Mar 13 20:18
DaemonFCnom nom nomMar 13 20:18
MinceR"well, that's what mkfs.btrfs is for"Mar 13 20:19
MinceR"...and your backup"Mar 13 20:19
DaemonFCouchMar 13 20:19
DaemonFCand you make fun of XFSMar 13 20:20
DaemonFCat least it is stable and has fsckMar 13 20:20
DaemonFCall the Microsoft splogs are still congratulating OpenSuseMar 13 20:21
DaemonFChow broken does it have to be before they knock it off?Mar 13 20:21
Ender2070bahMar 13 20:21
Ender2070opensuse is pretty goodMar 13 20:21
Ender2070im not paid by msMar 13 20:21
DaemonFCPackageKit and Yast don't complement each otherMar 13 20:21
Ender2070it has some stuff i wish fedora hadMar 13 20:21
DaemonFCthey fight each otherMar 13 20:22
Ender2070yast is good for other stuffMar 13 20:22
DaemonFCwhat? broken repository management, bugs?Mar 13 20:22
Ender2070packagekit fights everything btw, thats t he pointMar 13 20:22
DaemonFChttp://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3048642267.htmlMar 13 20:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenSUSE 1.4 touted for performance boost, new rolling release option .::. Size~: 40.69 KBMar 13 20:23
DaemonFCOpenSUSE 1.4 with KDE 2.6 desktopMar 13 20:23
DaemonFClolMar 13 20:23
DaemonFCdoes this guy not proof read?Mar 13 20:23
Ender2070kde 4.6Mar 13 20:25
DaemonFCno, 2.6Mar 13 20:25
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:25
MinceRDaemonFC: i'm not using btrfsMar 13 20:25
Ender2070gcc 4.5.2 with optimizations onMar 13 20:25
DaemonFCuhhhm, there are many optimizations that you can turn on or off in GCCMar 13 20:26
MinceRDaemonFC: m$ splogs will keep congratulating opensuse as long as *suse stays loyal to the m$ agendaMar 13 20:26
DaemonFCand some that bloat the code size more than they are worthMar 13 20:26
MinceReven if the main carrier of mono is ubuntu nowMar 13 20:26
DaemonFCMinceR: removing banshee will remove ubuntu-desktopMar 13 20:27
DaemonFCare you sure?Mar 13 20:27
DaemonFC:DMar 13 20:27
MinceRyes!Mar 13 20:27
*MinceR gets out the install mediaMar 13 20:27
DaemonFCEnder2070: Has Fedora stated Mesa version for F15 yet?Mar 13 20:28
DaemonFCI hope they're not going to stick to 7.10Mar 13 20:29
Ender2070check out f15 alphaMar 13 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Submit Qs to PM Gillard about her betrayal of WikiLeaks; she will be on #qanda tonite 9.35pm ABC1 @ABCQANDA !wlMar 13 20:31
DaemonFCthey have 7.10 right nowMar 13 20:31
Ender2070fedora needs something like tumbleweedMar 13 20:32
DaemonFC7.11-devel has a few things I needMar 13 20:32
Ender2070you can set certain apps to be a rolling release styleMar 13 20:32
DaemonFCand of course it's a little fasterMar 13 20:32
DaemonFCglx extensions.....Mar 13 20:33
DaemonFCthe more the better :)Mar 13 20:33
DaemonFCthe main bonus in going from r600c to g is not really the speed, although that goes up a bitMar 13 20:33
DaemonFCit's the fact that you get like 60 some glx extensionsMar 13 20:34
DaemonFCand all kinds of software stqarts working rightMar 13 20:34
DaemonFC*startsMar 13 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sydney: Public forum on Wikileaks and the right to know, Wed 16, 6:30pm, Sydney Town Hall http://is.gd/av7h2N !wlMar 13 20:36
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DaemonFCATI should be releasing a new FGLRX in a few days, which will probably support Linux 2.6.38 and X Server 1.10Mar 13 20:36
DaemonFCit's nice to have both optionsMar 13 20:36
DaemonFCI'll probably migrate to F15 when it's betaMar 13 20:36
DaemonFCit's really shitty of ATI to only announce what they support when they drop the driver that monthMar 13 20:38
DaemonFCit makes it real hard to know what you're doingMar 13 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Agile Ruined My Life http://is.gd/PXPuFm < Impl. practices as they suit your team. Not for the sake of process! There is no #SilverBulletMar 13 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Access-to-information fee hike to ‘control demand’ because freedom isn't free http://bit.ly/hLo6iY #cdnpoliMar 13 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Freedom of access to information for those that can afford it. #cdnpoliMar 13 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonMsLy: Fire up the grill guise! We have some bbq'ing to do. Counting down... Follow @OperationLeakS #Anonymous #AnonymissMar 13 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] If I worked for Bank of America senior management, I'd be really nervous right now... #panicinthestreetsMar 13 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Twitter's Policy Changes Don't Add Up http://tighturl.com/303h !Twitter !Identica !StatusNetMar 13 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 btw, je kan altijd contributen aan #irail om een coole de lijn api te maken. Code 70% done. (Output & apps. Input requiredMar 13 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter a more apt title would be "Twitter's stated reasons for their policy changes don't add up" but I felt it was a tad long windedMar 13 20:51
Ender2070lol on my netbook installing the broadcm wifi is pretty easyMar 13 20:52
Ender2070i just run a command and it downloads the firmwareMar 13 20:52
Ender2070on opensuse anywayMar 13 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #CliveTyldesley fan club in full effect http://tighturl.com/303i !footballMar 13 20:54
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DaemonFCwhat about openfwwf?Mar 13 20:55
Ender2070openfwwf?Mar 13 20:56
DaemonFChttp://www.ing.unibs.it/~openfwwf/Mar 13 20:56
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Ender2070dont think that applies to my broadcomMar 13 20:58
Ender2070my netbook uses that chipsetMar 13 20:58
Ender2070fedora doesnt support it at allMar 13 20:58
Ender2070yet they support the intel which requires a proprietary firmwareMar 13 20:58
Ender2070i was able to install the chromium browser too from within firefoxMar 13 21:00
Ender2070a one click mechanism for adding repositories and installing the appMar 13 21:01
Ender2070opensuse has balls for shipping firefox 4.0 beta 12 with opensuse 11.4 finalMar 13 21:02
Ender2070chromium for opensuse does all the yast stuff properly with single click tooMar 13 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting article "zero tolerance, zero sense" http://tighturl.com/303kMar 13 21:04
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DaemonFCEnder2070: Not really, Firefox 3.6 is ancient crapMar 13 21:17
DaemonFCand Mozilla is dragging with the Firefox 4 releaseMar 13 21:17
DaemonFCwhat choice do they have?Mar 13 21:17
abeNd-orgim still torrenting opensuse11.4x64...stupid slow internet connectionMar 13 21:18
abeNd-orgi should finish sometime tonight...Mar 13 21:18
DaemonFCI didn't like itMar 13 21:20
abeNd-orgwhys that? Mar 13 21:22
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DaemonFCpackagekit and grub fighting each otherMar 13 21:23
DaemonFCit's annoyingMar 13 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @MarkWaid AT&T To Customers: Drop Dead http://ur1.ca/3ifnc ... not only in !Canada, eh? via @wilw !stopUBBMar 13 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb New Blog Post | Twitter's Policy Changes Don't Add Up http://tighturl.com/303h !Twitter !Identica !StatusNetMar 13 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @hypatiadotca Also, dear disaffected Twitter app developers, please implement StatusNet support in your apps since apparently Twitter ...Mar 13 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] 80th anniversary of Alam Ara: First Indian movie with sound http://www.google.com/Mar 13 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @JFHilborne when a character is rambling, so is the story, and the reader is wandering.....onto something else. #storycraftMar 13 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Anony_Ops: #BlackMonday Ex-Bank of America Employee Can Prove Mortgage Fraud Part 1 http://uleak.it/?j4 #Anonleaks #BOAMar 13 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @C0d3Fr0sty: Carrier Ronald Reagan, passed thru radioactive cloud. Crew Said 2b exposed to Radiation http://nyti.ms/fm1uq7 #JapanMar 13 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter !UBB or #metered #broadband as our American friends call it, is *always* about screwing customersMar 13 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter whether called !UBB or #metered #broadband it is simply price gouging with no justification beyond greedMar 13 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @mattblaze The privacy gained from https w/ Facebook is similar to the safety gained by always using condoms when having sex with vampiresMar 13 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @C0d3Fr0sty: Carrier Ronald Reagan, passed thru radioactive cloud. Crew Said 2b exposed to Radiation http://nyti.ms/fm1uq7 #JapanMar 13 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @encyclomundi Radioactive Releases at Fukushima Could Last Months https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/world/asia/japan-fukushima-nucle ...Mar 13 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @themadhatter: RT @Anony_Ops: #BlackMonday Ex-Bank of America Employee Can Prove Mortgage Fraud Part 1 http://uleak.it/?j4 #Anonleaks #BOAMar 13 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] There has been a push to discourage the cool new windmills here in !Canada ... after all, #windmills are noisy and nuclear power is safeMar 13 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @AndreiAvadanei: Sistemele electronice din autovehiculele moderne sunt vulnerabile la atacurile hackerilor http://goo.gl/fb/fAIaHMar 13 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] never tell me it is impossible... You say NO, I say DO!Mar 13 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Australia: Submit Qs to PM Gillard about her betrayal of WikiLeaks; she will be on #qanda tonite 9.35... http://bit.ly/iaBkPCMar 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Sydney: Public forum on Wikileaks and the right to know, Wed 16, 6:30pm, Sydney Town Hall http://is.g... http://bit.ly/haBIEMMar 13 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] What's this about everyone ragequitting twitter? We should all take over Twatter.Mar 13 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @davidroads "The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism."~Norman Peale #storycraft !qMar 13 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 34: Done on a Dongle http://ur1.ca/3igro http://ur1.ca/3igrr #patents #phone #oilrush #gnu #linuxMar 13 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I once stopped at giant windmill farm & was impressed at the quiet... the only loud one was one of these http://ur1.ca/3igrtMar 13 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 34: Done on a Dongle http://ur1.ca/3igro http://ur1.ca/3igrr #swpats #androidMar 13 23:44
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schestowitz_loghttps://identi.ca/notice/66910411Mar 13 23:45
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 22:19:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #Microsoft is fast becoming the laughing stock ... Unable to update ... #Windows Phone 7 ... update falls http://ur1.ca/3i9pxMar 13 23:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @Jason: here we go @bankofamerica Anonymous BoA Leak (download torrent) - TPB http://jc.is/hVYbxhMar 13 23:47
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/47106150939897856Mar 13 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: Techrights commenter "bean.java" says Linux Mint Debian Edition is "Almost a third" Mono. Let's test this hypothesis on the 974MB ISO.Mar 13 23:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BTCareNot/status/47050837956108288Mar 13 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr@BTCareNot: @schestowitz That's not strictly true, Roy. We treat both our customers and our transit customers equally badly.Mar 13 23:48
schestowitzLOLMar 13 23:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agustinfontaine/status/47146692646141952Mar 13 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr@agustinfontaine: #jolicloud or #meego for my netbook? @schestowitz thanksMar 13 23:48
schestowitzkde-plasma?Mar 13 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ProFMRomania: Studioul ProFM va fi SUPER HOT diseara!! In premiera, frumoasa bulgaroaica Andrea... http://fb.me/RuTxNgoZMar 13 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @boycottnovell: #TechBytes Episode 34: Done on a Dongle http://ur1.ca/3igro http://ur1.ca/3igrr #swpats #androidMar 13 23:49
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ender2070/status/46370479245762560 http://twitter.com/goldenscepter/statuses/47168647130648576Mar 13 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: @GoldenScepter I deal with this arguement with @_the_mad_hatter on a daily basisMar 13 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr@GoldenScepter: @ender2070 I believe you because I know you from schestowitz' irc channel.Mar 13 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Azi așteptăm Internet Explorer 9 final ! http://is.gd/ab2cWm #microsoft #windows #web #romania #msoffice #msft #ie #ie9Mar 13 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @KnowledgeEmpire Canadian Judge Frees suspected terrorist⇒ USA torture tainted case http://ur1.ca/3igu4 <maybe hope for justice in !CanadaMar 13 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fabsh It even goes to 11, as @x11r5 would say. :-)Mar 13 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 'Evidence' produced via of #torture is unreliable... most of us will say anything to make it stop. Used to be, #democracies discouraged it.Mar 13 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @barton71 Reactor 3 has blown up! What next?Mar 13 23:59
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DaemonFCSafari got pwned because it sucks and has no such security mechanismMar 13 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I don't expect change until the MD shortage improves. People will put up with a butcher rather than risk being MDlessMar 13 00:00
DaemonFCnot that this will stop most of the Microsoft media from using this against Chrome, as sort of a guilt by associationMar 13 00:01
oiaohmSo far I have not heard of firefox failing either at pwn2own.  DaemonFCMar 13 00:01
oiaohmThinking it don't have a sandbox either.Mar 13 00:01
DaemonFCHow has Monoposoft Idiot Exploiter fared? I haven't been watchingMar 13 00:01
oiaohmFailed first day.Mar 13 00:02
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Internet_ExplorerMar 13 00:02
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DaemonFCby first day, do you mean it took longer for them to decide which vulnerability to exploit than actually take IE down?Mar 13 00:03
oiaohmFirst day has the strictest rule for exploitsMar 13 00:04
oiaohmVisit website dead.Mar 13 00:04
oiaohmYes failing to make it past first day is really bad.Mar 13 00:04
oiaohmSecond day You are allowed some more control than telling a person to visit a particular site.Mar 13 00:05
DaemonFCwith IE 6 it's still possible to crash IE with a malformed document.write in any random webpage, AND it will also crash Outlook if sent in an email on a system with IE 6 installed :)Mar 13 00:06
oiaohmThis was IE8Mar 13 00:06
oiaohmNot I am mister sitting duck waiting to be killed IE6Mar 13 00:06
DaemonFCI'm just saying, Microsoft never closed this IE 6 bugMar 13 00:06
oiaohmThey did by release IE 7Mar 13 00:07
oiaohmThey did not back port the fix.Mar 13 00:07
DaemonFCright, but thanks to a lot of stupid IT rules, a lot of companies still use IE 6Mar 13 00:07
DaemonFCif you advertised something as a platform API and got people to where they actually can't upgrade because they're stuck with your shitty broken product, releasing a version they can't upgrade to isn't a fixMar 13 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter #Drupal is awesome with unlimited potential but yeah it does have a bit of a steep learning curve, it's why I do my screencastMar 13 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter check out mustardseedmedia.com for LOADS of free drupal screencastsMar 13 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter ahh Drupal can mulittask but ya gots to know how to set it up lolMar 13 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter I mean it can be turned into a site with unlimited functions, sections and uses, and serve 1,000's of users at the same timeMar 13 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night !identiverse - I'm off to meditate... after all "Sleep is the best meditation." ~Dalai Lama !qMar 13 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Discovered that it has been over a year since I opened my 280 and 300 #StatusNet accounts. 3900 and 1500 posts in that time.Mar 13 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Pino needs a "report spam" button alongside "reply" retweet" etc it'd save the hassle of opening a terminal to run the reportspammer.pyMar 13 00:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ran around the west end of the bay all day, crazy tiredMar 13 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Moment of #heavymetal perfection: guitar solo on #Marduk's "Womb of Perishableness" at 4:36 mark. #blackmetalMar 13 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk sometime*Mar 13 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] interesting... Eastern US and CA go into DST in 53', and seconds-since-Unix-epoch rolls over to 1300000000 exactly 6'40" laterMar 13 01:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I couldn't agree more: Why #RichardDawkins Doesn't #Debate Creationists http://youtu.be/BhmsDGanyes #atheistMar 13 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @encyclomundi Overheard: Remember to set your clocks 1 hour forward tonight, unless you live in Wisconsin, in which case you should s ...Mar 13 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk actually with identica it'd be kinda hard to give professional lessons even if I could...Mar 13 01:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Flickr apparently decides to side with a morally bankrupt #Egyptian regime it's people want out http://tighturl.com/300g #sad #FuckFlickrMar 13 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Reason 34234: http://ur1.ca/3hx0uMar 13 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #hongkong flower fair. Must be one of the most photographed annual event in the city! http://ur1.ca/3hx72Mar 13 03:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good morning !identiverse :) I have been awake an hour or so.Mar 13 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "A Porsche 911 is just a VW Beetle with a spoiler" #LOLMar 13 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Big Leaders of Congress have Black Money http://ur1.ca/3hy31 Read Comments as article is deleted. corrupt Indian mediaMar 13 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the second day at the BUSC workshop. Keeping an eye on the phone for #fukushima news...Mar 13 04:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Lessons learned, blogpost by @nearyd http://is.gd/kdLSvi /cc: !kde !gnome #freedesktop #ubuntu #collaborationMar 13 05:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Moving to open source would save Dutch government one to four billion http://ur1.ca/3gsba !foss #linuxMar 13 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Pestalozzischule http://b1t.it/aJP #4sqMar 13 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeff Waugh: Love flies under the radar http://goo.gl/rS7B0 part 4 of a series of thoughts on the relationship between !Canonical and !GNOME.Mar 13 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Nokia's Loyalty was Worth $1 Billion http://lxnews.org/2011/03/12/nokias-loyalty-was-worth-1-billion/Mar 13 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Never saw anything like it before, but !elmdentica bugs can be registered at http://ur1.ca/3hzm4Mar 13 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Just tested !elmdentica trunk and can't reproduce it. U have an old version with a bug or u replied then cleared. !identiverseMar 13 06:06
amarsh04back in a few, investigating kdm issuesMar 13 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Not possible yet, sorry. In !elmdentica gag are regexp which if matched on name, screen_name or text will hide that status.Mar 13 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb !elmdentica gag comes from labdamoo gag and is very useful when you don't even want to notice some troll.Mar 13 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb if you see someone in a group spamming about some fubar you don't care, you can just set !elmdentica to gag fubar. Bliss!Mar 13 06:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb what "basic" features do you mean?Mar 13 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb also, neither #pino nor #choqok are designed for a small screen device, where windows are always maximised.Mar 13 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb What does "basic" features do you mean? !elmdentica actually has some important features #pino and #choqok don't have (like gag)Mar 13 07:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I hate it when people keep denting all their replies also to a group. if I would feel interested, I would go to the discussion/context!Mar 13 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb !elmdentica version is unimportant (use package info). avatar changing is unimportant (and can be done via web)Mar 13 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb attachments are also there, if there is an attachment, it'll show up in status details.Mar 13 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb replying to dents is also there, you're replying.Mar 13 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Good for you, but !elmdentica isn't really oriented towards desktops, so your experience may not be very good :)Mar 13 07:16
schestowitzFor a moment this morning (about half an hour) I thought I had been crackedMar 13 07:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh?Mar 13 07:16
schestowitzTurns out it's just that I set the display not to use all colours!!Mar 13 07:16
sebsebsebI had something like thisMar 13 07:16
sebsebsebuhmm I guess it was last year nowMar 13 07:16
schestowitzI saw some images in my site looking differentMar 13 07:16
sebsebsebDecember or whateverMar 13 07:16
sebsebsebmusic started playing on the computer, butMar 13 07:16
schestowitzSo I went there, checked timestampsMar 13 07:17
sebsebsebI didn't have Flash open or whateverMar 13 07:17
schestowitzAbsolutely baffledMar 13 07:17
sebsebsebno browsers open or whateverMar 13 07:17
schestowitzEventually I saw some other images in other sites looking different and then remembered I had changed the HDMI stuffMar 13 07:17
sebsebsebhadn't gone to any sites with music on either I thought, turns out it was Flash or the proccess of doing the music thoughMar 13 07:17
schestowitzFlash is a messMar 13 07:17
schestowitzAnyway, I'm catching up with mail ATMMar 13 07:18
schestowitzMight post some blog items stating tonightMar 13 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb it sure can, possibly better than choqok :) as !elmdentica uses EFL's elm_genlistMar 13 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 07:22
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I am sucked into the world of identica todayMar 13 07:22
schestowitzThat's what I'm afraid of myselfMar 13 07:23
sebsebseboh?Mar 13 07:23
schestowitzPromised to do 40 hours of coding this weekMar 13 07:23
sebsebsebit's so addictive once got a good convo goingMar 13 07:23
sebsebsebon thereMar 13 07:23
schestowitzOnce you start denting it comes back at you, same with news/bloggingMar 13 07:24
sebsebsebcoding for what?Mar 13 07:24
sebsebsebcome back at you?  sucks you in?Mar 13 07:24
schestowitz3d face stuffMar 13 07:24
sebsebseb3d face stuff?Mar 13 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb How would you *reply* otherwise? :)Mar 13 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent. !wlMar 13 07:26
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/06/massive-dataset/Mar 13 07:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: Well today both me and @ruiseabra have been denting quite a bit to the !Elmdentica group, that didn't really need to be sent there.Mar 13 07:32
schestowitzsebsebseb: ok, let's see what was missed in identica...Mar 13 07:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66337056Mar 13 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:28:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Micro$oft's desperation rolls on: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/promotions/xbox.shtml?INTCMP=HomeBANXboxMar 13 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I have also been denting to !identiverse earlier when I didn't really have a proper reason to.Mar 13 07:41
schestowitzLOL I saw some Vista Phony 7 ads and promotions at O2 shop, but nobody bothers with itMar 13 07:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66389500Mar 13 07:41
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Mar-11 01:30:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Know you're tied up, but thanks for your outstanding efforts on #techrights, c.o.l.advocacy trolls keep whining LOL, the lusersMar 13 07:41
schestowitzlook who's talking...http://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 07:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 07:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 07:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 07:42
Diablo-D3404.Mar 13 07:42
schestowitzIt said: "@schestowitz ppl like @popey are desperate trolls"Mar 13 07:42
schestowitzMust have been deletdMar 13 07:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66565800  http://identi.ca/notice/66579264Mar 13 07:43
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 18:39:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  You moved in and comfortable yet?Mar 13 07:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 21:42:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Physically?Mar 13 07:43
Diablo-D3oopsMar 13 07:43
schestowitzHehMar 13 07:43
Diablo-D3schestowitz: does being a desperate troll pay well? :<Mar 13 07:43
schestowitzoh, the psycho is at it too...http://identi.ca/notice/66628010Mar 13 07:44
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 10:34:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @agentsmith @schestowitz Trolls hot & heavy with libel re #Linux advocacy http://ur1.ca/3g9j1 via #Microsoft Evangelism http://ur1.ca/3g9kqMar 13 07:44
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: maybeMar 13 07:44
*Diablo-D3 should try to get a job at microsoftMar 13 07:45
schestowitzHe didn't like it when I said he was maybe trying to be hired by Canonical... which I emphasised was mere speculationMar 13 07:45
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they don't hireMar 13 07:45
schestowitzUnless you move eastMar 13 07:45
schestowitzNot too far east thoughMar 13 07:45
schestowitzWith the radiation and all...Mar 13 07:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66635492Mar 13 07:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 12:23:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @ghostler @schestowitz Wow, are they still on those old tricks ? How pity.Mar 13 07:46
schestowitzLOL http://identi.ca/notice/66746894 Wayne's response nails itMar 13 07:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 11-Mar-11 17:43:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 07:48
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MinceRgeekingsMar 13 07:48
schestowitzNow I'm the bad guy for saying humans change climateMar 13 07:48
Diablo-D3schestowitz: hurrMar 13 07:50
Diablo-D3schestowitz: but I live in maineMar 13 07:50
Diablo-D3how more east do you wantMar 13 07:50
schestowitzNice placeMar 13 07:50
schestowitzExcept in winter... scary clod :-)Mar 13 07:51
schestowitz*coldMar 13 07:51
schestowitzClimate change is not about just warning but also extreme weather swingsMar 13 07:51
schestowitzAverage temperature keeps going up very rapidlyMar 13 07:51
oiaohmReally the nasty point is Average temp going up does not mean that some areas cannot go the other way.Mar 13 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb @gbraad is not on !elmdentica. Most dents were in context but not for #choqok :)Mar 13 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb #EFL is !enlightenment foundation libraries.Mar 13 07:56
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org seems to be down...?Mar 13 08:12
schestowitzHmmm...Mar 13 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb I *know*, but they're in context for group !elmdentica.Mar 13 08:14
schestowitzGeez... Brandon really hammers it with this one rant http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/46264925856862208  http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45242394563715072 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45241019347902465 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240994706358273 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240995624914944 why repeat so many times?Mar 13 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 08:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #fedora #gnu #linux #ossMar 13 08:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/hfkrqUMar 13 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb because !elmdentica is not oriented towards desktop usage and I'm no my desktop.Mar 13 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb no, sending attachments isn't supported in !elmdentica yet.Mar 13 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods. I'm tired...Mar 13 08:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights http://wp.me/p1gptc-m4Mar 13 08:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/fAOyRkMar 13 08:19
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*amarsh04 thinks ender2070 could achieve more by being more constructiveMar 13 08:20
schestowitzHe doesn't realise I'm basically on his sideMar 13 08:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: who?Mar 13 08:21
sebsebsebI am not following the stuff here right nowMar 13 08:21
schestowitzIt's the people whom he's against that laughs it all off when he antagonises my work... just because I'm not expert in ROckefeller?Mar 13 08:21
amarsh04some conversations in #techrights I skip past because none of the participants post constructive commentsMar 13 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb that is exactly the conversation I meantMar 13 08:22
schestowitzLike DaemonFCMar 13 08:23
sebsebseband MinceR and gnufreex at times?Mar 13 08:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/psankar/statuses/45897830329622528Mar 13 08:23
TechrightsBot-tr@psankar: @m4n1sh I am wondering if boycott boy will say since Vuntz sent the mail, novell rejected canonical's patches ;-)Mar 13 08:23
amarsh04it's like complaining of having to configure some things manually and not having sent constructive bug reports and/or patches to the maintainersMar 13 08:24
schestowitzhttp://slated.org/copygate_exposes_ugly_ubuntu "Hmm, Bacon could do with learning some Open Respect? himself."Mar 13 08:25
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schestowitzHmm.. I missed that oneMar 13 08:25
*amarsh04 is amazed how many ALSA and kernel issues were identified and patched following his reports and testingMar 13 08:25
oiaohmamarsh04: I keep on saying to people you don't have to be a programmer.  You just need to know how to submit a well tested bug report.Mar 13 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DHS/ICE continues unconstitutional acts by arresting someone for linking to something else on their website http://ur1.ca/3i1s2Mar 13 08:31
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amarsh04indeed, oiaohmMar 13 08:31
amarsh04having a second pc has helped, but even with a single old pc I could compare results from different package versions and rebuild packages with different patches appliedMar 13 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I am not sure why both @ruiseabra and me kept on denting the group when we didn't need to, since the actual convo context exists.Mar 13 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: BounceBounce - simple accelerometer controlled game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7123Mar 13 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: OM Voice Server for N900's Ovi Maps allows for voice guided navigation: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7124Mar 13 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple XBMC Remote for the N900 - HTTP remote control for XBMC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7125Mar 13 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: SomeCover - album art manager and downloader for N900's SomePlayer: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7126Mar 13 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jkosonen: Next #QML #QtQuick game almost ready, see the alpha version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea49pQg5zXY #Maemo #MeeGo #N900Mar 13 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad Thanks for the link :).Mar 13 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 best alternative operating systems | News | TechRadar UK http://ping.fm/kPmu2Mar 13 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb we do not really like !UGD ;-)Mar 13 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Missed this !Crunchbang #! 10 Statler | !Linux Distro Review yesterday http://ping.fm/8kNiEMar 13 08:54
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schestowitztessier: it looks like the varnish part stopped functioning like it used to... since about an hour ago. It's similar to an issue from a couple of weeks agoMar 13 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Bagel Brothers http://b1t.it/cLA #4sqMar 13 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] recent events and blogposts have showed me why Zemlin shifted his focus from desktop to devices.Mar 13 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well as the saying goes: All things come to an end. I am stopping denting to !Elmdentica for now! http://identi.ca/conversation/66075864Mar 13 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Director: "#Patent Filings Do not Equal #Innovation," US Needs New Measure - http://bit.ly/dEI0PX is that a glimmer? (v @FOSSpatents)Mar 13 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @stemp: A !crunchbang 10 !statler Review on [Reddit] http://ur1.ca/3i18fMar 13 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IP Enforcement Permeates ICANN, US Internet Policy - http://bit.ly/gd1vDx "push for ever more far-reaching" criticisedMar 13 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Streaming is the #Copyright Industry’s Approaching Train at the End of the Tunnel - http://bit.ly/fpL8PC "Streaming changes what we pay for"Mar 13 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Viewing attachmets is supported, posting them, not yet. !elmdenticaMar 13 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Twitter Should Think Twice About Bulldozing the Ecosystem - http://bit.ly/gmpx4h useful summary of issuesMar 13 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @slated @schestowitz Your exposure in http://ur1.ca/3i2yt i.e. x.org clipboard vicious tirades are rants pushed by c.o.l.advocacy wintrolls.Mar 13 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 10:06
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oiaohmReally arguement for flac is not going to get far.  Its like the arguement for records.Mar 13 10:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh kind of interesting someone on identica who lives near where my Mum's mother lives, but I guess it's a bit strange in a way to message someone because of that, hmm.  So probably not really the best idea, oh well.Mar 13 10:07
oiaohmPeople traded quality for size.Mar 13 10:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: however I could subscribe and dent in the future with better reason or somethingMar 13 10:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: I guess so, yeah...Mar 13 10:11
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schestowitz*LOL* Just got this by E-mailMar 13 10:13
schestowitz> Hi,Mar 13 10:13
schestowitz> Mar 13 10:13
schestowitz> No news in Techrights. Is project dead?Mar 13 10:13
schestowitzI didn't want to announce being away in the site for the same reason people don't announce they leave their home to go on vacation... inviting bad people to take advantage of itMar 13 10:14
nisshhschestowitz, heheMar 13 10:14
oiaohmyou take a week holiday and people think the project is dead.Mar 13 10:15
schestowitzI remember some years ago getting flooded by libellous comment spam against me when that happened... took days to addressMar 13 10:15
oiaohmThat is funny.Mar 13 10:15
oiaohmSome projects I deal with play dead for upto 6 months at a time.Mar 13 10:15
schestowitz"Subject: Is techrights dead"Mar 13 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Ted Ts'o @tytso on @nearyd's post; why kernel devel is diff and desktop devel needs 'a sheepdog' http://is.gd/PZpaVQ /cc: !gnome !kdeMar 13 10:16
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schestowitzbrbMar 13 10:16
schestowitzoiaohm: I caught up with the new siteMar 13 10:16
schestowitzOne thing at a time, I also have a 40-hour research/coding project this weekMar 13 10:17
oiaohmHey you are due to 2 weeks off from techrights if you fell like it.Mar 13 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Mockup: Add / Remove Workspaces In Unity http://bit.ly/hmhiKKMar 13 10:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mockup: Add / Remove Workspaces In Unity ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 66.12 KBMar 13 10:19
schestowitzI'll resume graduallyMar 13 10:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah your alloweed time  off techrightsMar 13 10:19
schestowitzNo major news anyway, except Japan in general and HP in LinuxsphreMar 13 10:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: Japan isn't really tech news though?Mar 13 10:19
schestowitzBut it's still hugely importantMar 13 10:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mageia Alpha 2 this ThursdayMar 13 10:20
sebsebsebuhMar 13 10:20
sebsebsebTuesday I meanMar 13 10:21
schestowitzI'm doing a short review of mint 10 since yesterdatMar 13 10:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: also i'll join the marketting time, even got offered to join by someone on it on like FridayMar 13 10:22
sebsebsebteam aboveMar 13 10:22
sebsebsebgood to do something proper when it comes to Linux, for me I mean :)Mar 13 10:22
schestowitzI had a sort of argument over marketingMar 13 10:22
sebsebsebof what Mageia?Mar 13 10:22
amarsh04I made an online order to a .jp site one hour after the earthquake and experienced no slow-down... a couple of days later they updated their site to apologise for any delays that the earthquake might causeMar 13 10:22
schestowitzBecause I mixed that with PR in generalMar 13 10:22
sebsebsebwhen what?Mar 13 10:23
schestowitzsebsebseb: I'll show you in -socialMar 13 10:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: okMar 13 10:23
schestowitzSo as to not put it in main channelMar 13 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An OpenGL 4.1 Gallium3D State Tracker Was Just Proposed: It's not often that really interesting mailing list mes... http://bit.ly/g1RODFMar 13 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] An OpenGL 4.1 Gallium3D State Tracker Was Just Proposed .::. Size~: 19.85 KBMar 13 10:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: oiaohm  This looks pretty good actsualley I guess: http://goshu-neko.deviantart.com/art/Alternative-OS-VS-Windows-200545861Mar 13 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative OS VS Windows by ~Goshu-neko on deviantART .::. Size~: 75.63 KBMar 13 10:33
sebsebsebaltough it looks like a Microsoft hate wall paper?Mar 13 10:33
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MinceRsebsebseb: Microsoft® Windows™ Hate?Mar 13 10:36
MinceR(also spelled as "8")Mar 13 10:36
MinceRkind of reminds me of that pic from the virtualbox about boxMar 13 10:36
schestowitzgnufreex: hiMar 13 10:51
schestowitzDid you see mono/android news?Mar 13 10:51
schestowitzSome Microsoft lad it poisoning LinuxMar 13 10:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koush/status/46299788655869952Mar 13 10:52
TechrightsBot-tr@koush: The signed Honeycomb update from Moto/Google contains libmono.so and libunity.so. @migueldeicaza @unity3dMar 13 10:52
schestowitzgforbes added this to the wikiMar 13 10:52
gnufreexoh crapMar 13 10:52
gnufreexLike Google wants more lawsuitsMar 13 10:52
gnufreexschestowitz: So it comes by default?Mar 13 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://goo.gl/8I8Wp !gnome vs !canonicalMar 13 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Pestalozzischule http://b1t.it/aJP #4sqMar 13 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » All the other guys are not wrong .::. Size~: 34.55 KBMar 13 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: foursquare       :: Pestalozzischule       :: Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia .::. Size~: 23.15 KBMar 13 10:54
gnufreexMicrosoft can now bully Android OEMs into switching to "real deal"Mar 13 10:54
gnufreex.NET and WP7Mar 13 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: How to add PDF files on your iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone: http://bit.ly/dpMoHLMar 13 10:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to add PDF files to read in iBooks on your iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone – Simple Help .::. Size~: 80.83 KBMar 13 10:57
gnufreexhttp://yfrog.com/f/h23i3ctj/Mar 13 10:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yfrog Photo : yfrog.com/h23i3ctj  - Shared by koush .::. Size~: 40.41 KBMar 13 10:58
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesMar 13 11:04
schestowitzAnd see the comment in http://techrights.org/2011/03/03/rogue-ipr-games/#commentsMar 13 11:04
schestowitzI pasted in the -social irc channel, tooMar 13 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nothing found for  2011 03 03 Rogue-ipr-games #comments .::. Size~: 43.26 KBMar 13 11:04
schestowitzMore on that Nokia dealMar 13 11:04
schestowitzMicrosoft has a plan: plawsuitsMar 13 11:04
schestowitzgnufreex: buy xbox !!Mar 13 11:07
schestowitz"Love, Microsoft"Mar 13 11:07
gnufreexWhat is most imporant now is Nokia devsMar 13 11:07
gnufreexThose that developed for nokia phonesMar 13 11:08
gnufreexIf they switch to .NET, it will be very badMar 13 11:08
gnufreexThey are being trolled hard right nowMar 13 11:08
gnufreex"Use .NET or you will be homeless bum. All other frameworks are dead"Mar 13 11:08
gnufreexschestowitz: And de Icaza is still pscyched Mar 13 11:09
gnufreexAs in PsychopathMar 13 11:10
MinceRi'd rather use the work of GNU/Linux developers than that of symbian developersMar 13 11:10
gnufreexIt overlaps. Mar 13 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All the other guys are not wrong - http://bit.ly/h9qfgd long & interesting post from Mr #Shuttleworth on the current argy-bargy #gnome #kdeMar 13 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » All the other guys are not wrong .::. Size~: 39.56 KBMar 13 11:11
gnufreexThey will be shilling for .NOTMar 13 11:11
gnufreexif they drink kool aidMar 13 11:11
gnufreexIt is like a cancerMar 13 11:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah there's this news as well, something Thisleweb dented about: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/13/0055209/Flickr-Censors-Egypt-Police-Photos?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20Slashdot/slashdot%20%28Slashdot%29Mar 13 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flickr Censors Egypt Police Photos - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.13 KBMar 13 11:12
gnufreex.NET is designed to be a cancer for programming freedomMar 13 11:12
gnufreexA framework to frame everyone in same mindset.Mar 13 11:12
gnufreexThat is why MSFT have jihadists that push their agenda... like De Icaza and such. Mar 13 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am done organising everything in the house, catching up now, but big project in coming week, research-related...Mar 13 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis !China #CCAV feature report of #Japan earthquake uses the BGM of Inception and Transformer. Too good not to use, again? ...Mar 13 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Still using a dongle to connect until BT engineer comes; expensive bandwidth, so little activity here until wired Internet gets installedMar 13 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @MeeGo_Peregrine: Peregrine renders now with OpenGL - N900 performance is great. Try it. http://tinyurl.com/6x4j7ljMar 13 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today - http://rww.to/fwRHBh Dante would have approved #socialnwsMar 13 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 26.11 KBMar 13 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get Latest Version - Peregrine Wiki - Confluence .::. Size~: 54.96 KBMar 13 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today .::. Size~: 56.91 KBMar 13 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed - http://bit.ly/h9Diqr vindictive or incompetent? probably both...Mar 13 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.97 KBMar 13 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Set Up Sparkleshare With Your Own Server http://bit.ly/h10g5PMar 13 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Set Up Sparkleshare With Your Own Server ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.38 KBMar 13 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) http://bit.ly/hsN6CaMar 13 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☂ Writer’s Block: http://wmk.me/gYgIGkMar 13 11:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.08 KBMar 13 11:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☂ Writer’s Block « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 49.72 KBMar 13 11:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: also Twitter are saying no to 3rd party Twitter clients, well new ones, that's the other major news at the momentMar 13 11:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: this article for example: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_tells_developers_to_stop_building_twitter.phpMar 13 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Tells Developers to Stop Building Twitter Clients .::. Size~: 70.8 KBMar 13 11:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, depressingMar 13 11:42
schestowitzYou put a lot into it, then the company says **** ***Mar 13 11:42
schestowitzIn identica I've almost passed fabsh to be most prolific posterMar 13 11:42
schestowitzSomeone I know said he'd just start posting from identica because of twitter's policyMar 13 11:43
schestowitztwitter will get just the copies, though that "Connect" option in identicaMar 13 11:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66889211Mar 13 11:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 15:20:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I gather that BT customer service is an Oxymoron.Mar 13 11:46
schestowitzI've phoned them about 7 times already; and that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over.Mar 13 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Program your wrist watch http://ow.ly/4dt0nMar 13 11:49
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gnufreexschestowitz: Why no articles for a week?Mar 13 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Slinky | !GIMP Plugin Registry http://ping.fm/agpujMar 13 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slinky | GIMP Plugin Registry .::. Size~: 10.58 KBMar 13 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Só não há crise para os ricos... Sobre a opinião de Pedro Boucherie Mendes http://blog.1407.org/2011/03/13/so-nao-ha-crise-para-os-ricos/Mar 13 11:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Só não há crise para os ricos… » FU-BAR .::. Size~: 49.58 KBMar 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] also, morning @coyoMar 13 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Good news: European Court of Justice rejects stem-cell #patents : Nature News http://ping.fm/vbUA9Mar 13 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent.Mar 13 11:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Court of Justice rejects stem-cell patents : Nature News .::. Size~: 39.87 KBMar 13 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP @SusanDelacourt I thought (mis/re)-interpreting the distant past was now part of Canadian politics?Mar 13 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP Are you "just visiting" "The Harper Government"? *evil grins* @SusanDelacourtMar 13 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @SusanDelacourt: Harper's Conservatives increasingly dependent on Mike Harris's gang: http://bit.ly/edsKnO #cdnpoliMar 13 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Politics .::. Size~: 65.49 KBMar 13 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it right nowMar 13 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A New CPU, Power Monitoring Utility: Thomas Renninger of SuSE has announced cpupowerutils, a new free software p... http://bit.ly/hRwjGtMar 13 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free & future proof #musicMar 13 12:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A New CPU, Power Monitoring Utility .::. Size~: 16.67 KBMar 13 12:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Music Made Better: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in FLAC .::. Size~: 74.47 KBMar 13 12:07
sebsebsebI don't really care, but by the wayMar 13 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it nowMar 13 12:12
sebsebsebhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_launch_major_new_social_network_called_c.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+readwriteweb+%28ReadWriteWeb%29&utm_content=Google+ReaderMar 13 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today .::. Size~: 69.51 KBMar 13 12:12
sebsebsebsomething I got onto earlier from identicaMar 13 12:12
sebsebseboh and a dent just came in about it from silner hmmMar 13 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Easier now to be a Fedora maintainer - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-February/000757.html #fbMar 13 12:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New path available for joining the Fedora package maintainers group .::. Size~: 3.59 KBMar 13 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google Circles, new Social Network, at Readwriteweb http://ow.ly/4dtHz Thanks to @ferguskelly for link http://goo.gl/5hiThMar 13 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today .::. Size~: 69.31 KBMar 13 12:17
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Diablo-D3 Via @@swadeshine: RD @diablod3 Turn any page into #Katamari Damashii http://kathack.com/ (@ONoesUDidnt)Mar 13 12:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Katamari Hack .::. Size~: 4.32 KBMar 13 12:18
Diablo-D3lolMar 13 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Crap! The suspention on my car just broke.Mar 13 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] always keep in mind the people doing this continually style themselves as "the good guys" http://tighturl.com/302k #MPAA #RIAA #FACT #P2PMar 13 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Help Japan poster http://ur1.ca/3i55gMar 13 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.05 KBMar 13 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Help Japan poster - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 19.78 KBMar 13 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 60k damages awarded against blogger who reported truth http://ur1.ca/3i55oMar 13 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $60k damages awarded against blogger who reported truth - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.01 KBMar 13 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why am I reminded of the Musicians Guild? Thugs in suits arrive to LEGALLY intimidate you & trash your gear if you don't pay them #DiscworldMar 13 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] What De Icaza complains about in that people can change or break their desktops is called freedom, and clearly he does not understand itMar 13 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb: Thanks anyway :)Mar 13 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Largest #Wisconsin protests ever: 85,000+ people in Madison's streets http://ur1.ca/3i57tMar 13 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Largest Wisconsin protests ever: 85,000+ people in Madison's streets - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.81 KBMar 13 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://ping.fm/MvzKNMar 13 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Israel seem to have a natural talent for pouring oil on the fire, then playing the victim http://tighturl.com/302m #Occupation #IllegalMar 13 12:37
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Israel approves new Jewish settler homes in West Bank .::. Size~: 63.83 KBMar 13 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Chrome 10 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/chrome-10-released/Mar 13 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome 10 Released .::. Size~: 27.43 KBMar 13 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome 10 Released http://ow.ly/4dun3Mar 13 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@ruiseabra@bugabundo nada como a arrogância de quem só teve trabalhos d chefia http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pedro-boucherie-mendes/7/702/27aMar 13 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pedro Boucherie Mendes  | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 37.98 KBMar 13 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, 90 minutes from inside the apartment to back inside when going to the airport to pick up surplus baggage. Gotta love our location.Mar 13 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Haight-Ashbury today.Mar 13 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Incisive, hilarious, harsh, spot-on all at once. The Ghetto Called #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3i5paMar 13 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Ghetto Called Facebook | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 86.17 KBMar 13 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Moving heaven and earth to find a 22nF capacitor.Mar 13 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bdale Garbee Joins FreedomBox Foundation Board http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/bdale-garbee-joins-freedombox-foundation/Mar 13 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pinguy Info about Pingguy 11.04 Alpha and how to get involved. http://bit.ly/hDr9mo !Ubuntu !linuxMar 13 13:17
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Mikey_hey royMar 13 13:19
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Mikey_where did you go?Mar 13 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "E Pluribus Unum" becomes controversial: #Religious Right seeks to banish inclusive motto http://ur1.ca/3i5yb #wtfMar 13 13:26
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Mikey_hey royMar 13 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh it's Daylight Saving Time, !heybuddy has date/time issues; I should switch things to "relative" timeMar 13 13:36
DaemonFCI'm throwing just about every performance trick I can think of at this laptop, I don't know why nobarrier didn't come to mind soonerMar 13 13:36
DaemonFCit has battery backup :)Mar 13 13:36
DaemonFCbarriers never used to be the default on Ext3 and Ext4 anyway, so in a way they were less safe than XFS in the event of an unclean shutdownMar 13 13:38
DaemonFCit was only after people noticed the effect of persistent preallocation and delayed allocation on an unclean shutdown with Ext4 nobarrier that they started bitching, and this got changedMar 13 13:39
DaemonFCthat's why you see Ext4 dancing circles around XFS in Linux <2.6.31 but all of a sudden, read/write performance goes down by around 30%Mar 13 13:40
DaemonFCMinceR had commented on XFS eating your data, but XFS has defaulted to barrier since Linux 2.6.17Mar 13 13:41
DaemonFCit never had to when it was on IRIX because it wasn't running on crappy PC hardware that wasn't backed up by a batteryMar 13 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @Debichan: #Manning is in all our hearts and minds, THAT'S the right place. #iambradleymanning !WikiLeaksMar 13 13:42
DaemonFCeven if you were running one of those SGI machines without battery backup, the filesystem would detect the power outage and immedietly sync the filesystemMar 13 13:42
DaemonFCLinux has never profived the ability to do this on any architecture :)Mar 13 13:43
DaemonFC*providedMar 13 13:43
DaemonFCthere's a lot of FUD going around about XFS that is actually the fault of GNU GRUB, Linux, or old versions of LinuxMar 13 13:44
DaemonFCFUD never seems to dieMar 13 13:44
DaemonFCXFS is at least as safe as Ext4, if not better, when running on GRUB 2, because GRUB was doing a lot of really nasty perverse things to a file system that Ext2/3 mostly happened to tolerate B-)Mar 13 13:45
schestowitzHey, Mikey_Mar 13 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the prospect of a semi against !ManUtd don't motivate !ManCity to win today, they should hang their heads in shameMar 13 13:46
Mikey_hey Roy, what a night!Mar 13 13:46
schestowitzYes, I got home aftr 4Mar 13 13:46
Mikey_later than planned but what the hellMar 13 13:46
schestowitzTried too many shortcuts in vainMar 13 13:46
schestowitzEnded up walking for like 2 hours, I thinkMar 13 13:47
Mikey_did you walkMar 13 13:47
Mikey_wowMar 13 13:47
DaemonFCon some workloads, I notice that it's better to use Ext3 mounted without barriers than it is to use Ext4Mar 13 13:47
Mikey_2 hours?Mar 13 13:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 13:47
schestowitzMikey_: and had to wake up by 9Mar 13 13:47
Mikey_did you feel roughMar 13 13:47
schestowitzDid Andy get back OK?Mar 13 13:47
Mikey_yes he didMar 13 13:47
schestowitzMikey_: no, it was OKMar 13 13:47
Mikey_did you leave earlyMar 13 13:47
schestowitzIt was OK walking, too. If I disliked it, I'd stick to the paths I know wellMar 13 13:47
Mikey_i woke at 10.30amMar 13 13:48
Mikey_glad you got back okMar 13 13:49
schestowitzWhat's happening today?Mar 13 13:49
Mikey_how did you walk for 2 hoursMar 13 13:49
schestowitzWhen is Midland closing in weekends?Mar 13 13:49
Mikey_i am just relaxing nowMar 13 13:49
schestowitzMikey_: circlesMar 13 13:49
Mikey_on PCMar 13 13:49
schestowitzBTWMar 13 13:49
schestowitzI asked some guys here about monitorsMar 13 13:49
Mikey_oh yeahMar 13 13:50
schestowitzThe CRT is getting long in the toothMar 13 13:50
schestowitzAnd the Dell woofer won't connectMar 13 13:50
schestowitzI have too much hardware around that's not operationalMar 13 13:50
schestowitzI threw out 2 CRTs before movingMar 13 13:51
schestowitzOne was an IBM, worked OKMar 13 13:51
DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed something amusing today with FGLRX and SELinux, turns out that if you don't allow its libGL.so to map memory locations as readable and writable, it fails to load Mar 13 13:51
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 13:51
schestowitzI should have kept itMar 13 13:51
DaemonFCof course this won't affect Mes'a libGL.so at allMar 13 13:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: tried Mint yet?Mar 13 13:51
DaemonFC*Mesa'sMar 13 13:51
schestowitzMint 10...Mar 13 13:51
Mikey_yes you could do with a new one ARIA have a warehouse near me and a website you could take a look i buy lots of kit from them http://www.aria.co.uk/Mar 13 13:51
schestowitzFantastic distroMar 13 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aria PC - Computer Hardware, Components, Monitors.. at lowest prices .::. Size~: 57.91 KBMar 13 13:51
DaemonFCMint Search Hijacker lolMar 13 13:51
DaemonFCI complained to Opera about that btwMar 13 13:51
schestowitzI could keep the CRT as backup option, in case any of the other monitors goes kaputMar 13 13:52
DaemonFCOpera 11.10 will protect its search provider listings from Linux MintMar 13 13:52
DaemonFCit won't blindly import Firefox's search providers anymoreMar 13 13:52
DaemonFCit only trusts its own plus what the user adds or removesMar 13 13:52
schestowitzMikey_: I'm about to post http://schestowitz.com/cMar 13 13:53
schestowitzWhat do you think of it?Mar 13 13:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schestowitz » Scientific Freedom .::. Size~: 19.55 KBMar 13 13:53
Mikey_how is the penthouse suite today ROy, Andy says its great:)Mar 13 13:53
DaemonFCI had a discussion with some of Opera's developers over the Linux Mint situationMar 13 13:53
DaemonFCand that was the conclusion they came toMar 13 13:53
schestowitzMikey_: a couch+computer 'with stuff around it' :-)Mar 13 13:53
DaemonFCnamely that Mint shouldn't hijack the search bar in software that they don't provideMar 13 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] motivation: beat Utd in the semi, denying Utd a place in the final / silverware while being 90mins away from that silverware yourselfMar 13 13:54
Mikey_"award-winning Dr. Roy Schestowitz".......like it:)Mar 13 13:54
schestowitzUnderutilised place.Mar 13 13:55
schestowitzHang on, colleague on lineMar 13 13:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: I understand why they have Google CSE, but at the same time I disapprove of their interference with the user trying to disable itMar 13 13:55
DaemonFCthe real Google Search is much more usefulMar 13 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] Shame on #Obama for firing @PJCrowley, the one sane voice in the White House regarding #Manning and !WikiLeaks!Mar 13 13:56
DaemonFCif you want to get dicky, their costs to maintain Mint are minimal, they mostly just point to Ubuntu repositories, so they even hit Ubuntu with their bandwidth bill for the most partMar 13 13:56
DaemonFCI think it's sort of petty to insist the user must use broken Google search so they can get click penniesMar 13 13:56
schestowitzThey're sending me softphone on MondayMar 13 13:57
DaemonFCthe coul provide an easy way to turn that off and still cover their expenses and turn a profitMar 13 13:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: Aside from that (big) complaint, I think Mint is lovelyMar 13 13:57
DaemonFCtheir theme and customizations to GNOME make it usable and attractiveMar 13 13:58
Mikey_what time did you leaveMar 13 13:58
DaemonFCmy other problem is that they're running a month behind Ubuntu, and two months if you happen to use X86-64, which they unfortunately name x64 (Microsoftism)Mar 13 13:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, it's lovelyMar 13 14:00
schestowitzMikey_: you should try MintMar 13 14:00
schestowitzI'll set you up with dual bootMar 13 14:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mikey_ is like you... he had VISTAMar 13 14:00
schestowitzI think he still doesMar 13 14:00
schestowitzHe hates itMar 13 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Olav Vitters about !GNOME external dependencies http://goo.gl/FHHcNMar 13 14:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I still use 10.04 LTSMar 13 14:01
schestowitzDelays are not a PITAMar 13 14:01
DaemonFCwell, PPAs take away some of the painMar 13 14:01
schestowitzPPAs give latest versions tooMar 13 14:01
schestowitzYeahMar 13 14:01
DaemonFCyepMar 13 14:01
schestowitzBeat me to itMar 13 14:01
DaemonFCLinux 2.6.32 isn't really a bad place to beMar 13 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Colin Waters on the !GNOME vs !Canonical case: In fact, anyone can do it http://goo.gl/Pypi7Mar 13 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In fact, anyone can do it « Colin Walters .::. Size~: 23.81 KBMar 13 14:02
DaemonFCit's a lontg term stable with a lot of enterprise distros backporting fixes toMar 13 14:02
DaemonFCit shouldn't do anything wickedMar 13 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, starting to teach @coyo some C @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekk. If you want to pick up a bit, or if you actually [cont]Mar 13 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk know C and would like to make sure that I'm teaching it right(seriously, I'd love that), come on inMar 13 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PiratePad: Create a new pad? .::. Size~: 4.77 KBMar 13 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] of course to beat Utd in the semi, ya have to get tot he semi. The City players know Utd are waiting for them, it SHOULD drive themMar 13 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@themadhatter I've phoned them about 7 times already; & that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over. #btcares like #bpMar 13 14:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/46432005738606593Mar 13 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr@yuhong2: @schestowitz Tech Report has a poll on which one is most evil: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20556Mar 13 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Poll: Which tech company is the most evil? - The Tech Report .::. Size~: 20.15 KBMar 13 14:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_clarkdale_q111&num=2Mar 13 14:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Graphics Get A Boost With Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11 .::. Size~: 18.12 KBMar 13 14:17
DaemonFC11 fps on Nexuiz!Mar 13 14:17
DaemonFClmaoMar 13 14:17
DaemonFCeven the reverse engineered nvidia drivers do better than this alreadyMar 13 14:17
DaemonFCtranslation: you still can't run Nexuiz on Intel GMA, even if the driver is 5 times faster than it is nowMar 13 14:20
DaemonFCit would have to be 15 times faster just to achieve the 30 fps required of a first person shooterMar 13 14:20
DaemonFCand 30 times faster to match the monitor refresh rateMar 13 14:20
MinceRor you could use a lower resolution and lower quality settingsMar 13 14:21
DaemonFCmeh, there's less room for growth with the Intel driver seeing as how the hardware isn't capable of that much anywayMar 13 14:21
DaemonFCeven the proprietary driver on Windows isn't a whole lot betterMar 13 14:21
DaemonFCthe hardware is the limiting factorMar 13 14:22
DaemonFCI remember when Crapple downgraded all their Mac Minis to Intel GMA from a dedicated low-end Radeon and promoted it as a featureMar 13 14:22
DaemonFCeven though the performance was worseMar 13 14:22
DaemonFCthey also took the liberty of jacking the price up $100 even though they just saved a bundle on the cost to manufactureMar 13 14:23
DaemonFCbut it's Crapple, isn't it? :)Mar 13 14:23
MinceRi remember when crApple said "we don't ship integrated GPUs because they suck" only to later start shipping integrated GPUsMar 13 14:23
DaemonFCyesMar 13 14:23
DaemonFCthe PowerPC G4 Mini with the Radeon 9800 will run rings around the Intel Mac Mini that replaced itMar 13 14:24
DaemonFCApple managed to rid some benchmarks, selective ones, ones that mean nothing and can't be reliably repeatedMar 13 14:24
DaemonFC*rigMar 13 14:24
DaemonFCshowing that Intel was fasterMar 13 14:24
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_Goblinschestowitz: hi royMar 13 14:25
DaemonFCThe Radeon 9800 is old, but it has hardware support for a lot of features that the Intel GMA still doesn't, and dedicated memoryMar 13 14:25
schestowitzHey, buddyMar 13 14:25
_GoblinAre we able to record tonight?Mar 13 14:25
schestowitzI'm on o2 dongle ATMMar 13 14:25
_Goblinah...Mar 13 14:26
schestowitzBTW, it works ok in LinuxMar 13 14:26
DaemonFCthe only time I see Intel doing better is if the textures go over 128 MB (Radeon 9800 memory size) and there's more RAM for Intel to steal from the systemMar 13 14:26
_Goblinany idea when you will be up properly?Mar 13 14:26
schestowitzYou had me thinking you needed XP on the laptop for itMar 13 14:26
schestowitz_Goblin: next week unless BT are lyingMar 13 14:26
schestowitzAnd I screwed upMar 13 14:26
_Goblin>Mar 13 14:26
schestowitzCause O2 broadband is FAR cheaperMar 13 14:26
_Goblin?Mar 13 14:26
_Goblinah....Mar 13 14:26
_Goblinlast time I tried the 02 dongle (2008) I would not play with LinuxMar 13 14:27
_GoblinI tethered after that.Mar 13 14:27
DaemonFCbut that's questionable since 1. Intel's driver won't use more than 128 megs unless you have at least 1 gig, and 2. Most Intel minis until recently shipped with 512 MB as the base configurationMar 13 14:27
_Goblinor maybe it was 2009Mar 13 14:27
DaemonFCand oh yeah, 3. Have fun prying open your Mac with a paint scraper to get more RAM into itMar 13 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism: http://bit.ly/ebybpL #anonymous #politics #internetMar 13 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism | Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter .::. Size~: 24.27 KBMar 13 14:27
_Goblinwell roy if you have no objections.....Mar 13 14:27
_GoblinI'll run a show solo...Mar 13 14:27
DaemonFCnow that Crapple uses those 5 point screws, a can opener is probably in orderMar 13 14:28
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 14:28
DaemonFCUpgradin' zu RAM? Zats a niche niche!Mar 13 14:28
MinceRnah, use some C4Mar 13 14:29
DaemonFCBring it into our Crapple store and provided you're a non smoker, we'll work on it for triple the going rateMar 13 14:29
MinceRor drop it from a tall buildingMar 13 14:29
schestowitz_Goblin: sure!Mar 13 14:29
_Goblin:)Mar 13 14:29
schestowitzI can record too, thoughMar 13 14:29
schestowitzUnless connection gets wonkyMar 13 14:29
_Goblinits up to you......Mar 13 14:30
schestowitzWhat time?Mar 13 14:30
_Goblinup to you.Mar 13 14:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Attach C4 to Crapple blast resistent 5 point case screw. If your local hardware store or Walmart is out, steal some from your nearest National Guard ArmoryMar 13 14:30
DaemonFCB-)\Mar 13 14:30
MinceRdoesn't matter if the screw is blast resistant :>Mar 13 14:31
_GoblinIve got two days off and Ive done my wifes chores for the dayMar 13 14:31
schestowitzLet's record in half an hour?Mar 13 14:31
_Goblinok....Mar 13 14:31
_GoblinnpMar 13 14:31
schestowitzYou can tell *me* what the news isMar 13 14:31
schestowitzCause I've been off the grid for a whileMar 13 14:31
_GoblinMichelle is standing over me growling at that btwMar 13 14:31
DaemonFCWhat kind of sick twisted individual can defend a company that goes to these lengths to make sure you can't mod the hardware that you own?Mar 13 14:31
schestowitzI didn't know about Japan even, till Mikey_ told me at the gymMar 13 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @dissolvethecrtc: The truth about UBB - From a former Bell Support Agent. http://bit.ly/eLuNPjMar 13 14:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: SCOnyMar 13 14:32
DaemonFCthe guide to removing the nonstandard screw says you'll probably strip it, then later on says to put it back inMar 13 14:32
schestowitzand TIMar 13 14:33
DaemonFCnot find a standard screw of the same sizeMar 13 14:33
DaemonFCI lol'dMar 13 14:33
_Goblinschestowitz: I;ll just go and have my mandatory smoke and get coffee ready, be back in 1/2 hourMar 13 14:33
schestowitzFor their calculators at leastMar 13 14:33
schestowitzniceMar 13 14:33
DaemonFChttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=0a6f09a76a416b8672e149c520aa5bef33174223Mar 13 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 17.33 KBMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCnow this is niceMar 13 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, imagine how retailers would exploit that, walking through a shopping mall would be a cacophony of people's phones assaulted non-stopMar 13 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter it'd BING her phone too, the interesting part is is she's the one who responds instead of youMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCthese little papercut bug fixes that make one or two operations a little fasterMar 13 14:34
DaemonFCenough of those gets you an optimized driver B-)Mar 13 14:34
DaemonFCso much focus gets placed on the major commits that few people even bother going over the existing code to see if it could be made betterMar 13 14:35
DaemonFCthat's the problem with these open source drivers, eventually nobody even bothers looking at old code until the compiler won't build it Mar 13 14:37
DaemonFCalthough that's mostly the case right now with RV100-400 series RadeonsMar 13 14:38
DaemonFCthere's a hell of a regression in Mesa 7.11 affecting my 480Mar 13 14:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66898975Mar 13 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:25:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I assume a shows off today?Mar 13 14:40
schestowitzIt's onMar 13 14:40
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899151Mar 13 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:27:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And now you know why BT wants to have a monopoly - so that they don't HAVE to improve service...Mar 13 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 for a Whole Day http://ur1.ca/3i6y9 #gnu #freedomMar 13 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 for a Whole Day | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.12 KBMar 13 14:41
schestowitzI don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 14:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Clementine project makes a lot of changes, but not many releasesMar 13 14:44
*DaemonFC is tired of cloning from SVNMar 13 14:44
DaemonFC:PMar 13 14:44
DaemonFCwhy can't every project release like Chrome?Mar 13 14:44
DaemonFCwe'd be on Clementine 47 by nowMar 13 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contracting for Scientific Betterment http://ur1.ca/3i739 #science #freedom #matlab #octave #linux #migration #lockinMar 13 14:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Contracting for Scientific Betterment .::. Size~: 34.1 KBMar 13 14:49
sebsebsebCan a average person install Meego onto their netbook?Mar 13 14:52
sebsebsebWhat are good netbook OS's, I don't really know much about them and Jolicloud is the only one that comes to mind really.Mar 13 14:52
sebsebseband Ubuntu is ok on a netbook those versions, but that's going bye bye for Unity so hmm.Mar 13 14:52
sebsebseb_Goblin you know about this stuff I think? ^Mar 13 14:52
sebsebsebHi by the way, how are you?Mar 13 14:53
MinceRi think any good desktop gnu/linux distro is fineMar 13 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity must resign, the cowards stayMar 13 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley Manning remarks | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.61 KBMar 13 14:56
MinceRand the "netbook" uis are overratedMar 13 14:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899966 https://identi.ca/notice/66899995Mar 13 14:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:42:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Lock in. No wonder BT doesn't care.Mar 13 14:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:43:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Since you've got nothing else to do :) did you start reading my book?Mar 13 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @bccla: Some US airport naked scanners putting out ten times more radiation than originally claimed: http://t.co/bt3Pa8MMar 13 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedomMar 13 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: PJ Crowley resigns over #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity resigns, cowards stayMar 13 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I read when you like to itMar 13 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I mean linkMar 13 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA to retest airport body scanners for radiation - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 51.96 KBMar 13 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.27 KBMar 13 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley Manning remarks | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.53 KBMar 13 14:57
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive really only spent time with Peppermint ICE on my netbookMar 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @schestowitz ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedom >>¡excelente!Mar 13 14:59
_Goblinsebsebseb: I only use the netbook when Im wanting to watch tv in the front room and surf at the same time.Mar 13 14:59
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sebsebseb_Goblin: ah yes PepermintMar 13 15:00
sebsebsebis it good?Mar 13 15:00
sebsebsebby the way starting with 11.04 their won't be the seperate netbook edition anymore. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/the-end-of-ubuntu-netbook-edition-the-return-of-ubuntu/Mar 13 15:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The end of Ubuntu Netbook edition .::. Size~: 103.82 KBMar 13 15:00
_Goblinsebsebseb: I think its fantasticMar 13 15:00
sebsebseb_Goblin: I am replying to a woman on identica, but well loads of the Ubuntu fan boys and such already have as well hmmMar 13 15:00
sebsebseband yeahMar 13 15:00
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive never needed to consider another distro for the netbookMar 13 15:01
DaemonFChttp://www.foresightlinux.org/Mar 13 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foresight Linux - Because Your Distro Shoud be Cool! .::. Size~: 9.7 KBMar 13 15:01
DaemonFCthere's always that B-)Mar 13 15:01
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im told #!cbl is very good too.Mar 13 15:01
sebsebseb_Goblin: maybe tell her that, of course I could mention pepermint as well though, already mentioned jolicloud to herMar 13 15:01
sebsebsebwhat's cbl ?Mar 13 15:02
_Goblincrunch bang linuxMar 13 15:02
sebsebsebah yes thatMar 13 15:02
_GoblinI think the best bet is peppermint....its a very "out of the box" distroMar 13 15:02
DaemonFCForesight Linux - Because your distro shouldn't have any packages!Mar 13 15:02
sebsebsebok I think you should say that to her, I can set it up so you can dent though :DMar 13 15:02
DaemonFClast time I tried it, there was no XChatMar 13 15:02
DaemonFConly XChat-GNOMEMar 13 15:03
_Goblintrue...but you can get it from the repo'sMar 13 15:03
_Goblinor for the "l33t" theres always IRSSIMar 13 15:03
DaemonFCno, I searched their package repo and there was no xchatMar 13 15:03
_Goblin;)Mar 13 15:03
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 15:03
_Goblinare you sure?Mar 13 15:03
sebsebseb_Goblin: uh which name do you use now on there?  only openbytes or?Mar 13 15:03
_Goblinsebsebseb: on identi.ca Im openbytes on Twitter im _GoblinMar 13 15:04
sebsebsebhmmMar 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be quicker to name those NOT breaking the law #NoW #PhoneHacking http://tighturl.com/302x now 6 named #OneRogueReporter #BullshitMar 13 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phone hacking: Panorama to name sixth journalist in News of the World scandal | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.57 KBMar 13 15:04
sebsebsebI think you subscribed to me as _goblin before or somethingMar 13 15:04
MinceRDaemonFC: conary -- because package managers that don't commit suicide are boring!Mar 13 15:04
DaemonFCthere's always OpenSuse where PackageKit and Yast throw poo at each otherMar 13 15:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway just checked, I am subscribed to openbytes :)Mar 13 15:05
_Goblinsebsebseb: that would be on Twitter.....I chose to use Openbytes for Identi.caMar 13 15:05
DaemonFCevery time you do something in one, it breaks the otherMar 13 15:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: right well your about to get a dent to her and you, on there,  that you can  then reply to about distro's :)Mar 13 15:05
_Goblinschestowitz: Do you want to give it a go?Mar 13 15:05
schestowitzJust a momentMar 13 15:06
schestowitzFinishing a postMar 13 15:06
DaemonFCthe guy who started Foresight is working at Canonical now, I found a picture of him and posted it on UncyclopediaMar 13 15:06
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UbuntuMar 13 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 56.25 KBMar 13 15:06
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu#Marketing_and_CommunityMar 13 15:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 56.25 KBMar 13 15:07
DaemonFCto the rightMar 13 15:07
DaemonFCmneptok, the paid Ubuntu gigolo of the Dread Cthulhu Shuttleworth, says, "My hair is luxurious. Touch it.".Mar 13 15:07
_Goblinschestowitz: npMar 13 15:07
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 15:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uh what was that?Mar 13 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #BBC political party in full swing, out to defend it's gravy train, did they contract #Deloitte for this study? http://tighturl.com/302yMar 13 15:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC delivers £2 to economy for every pound of licence fee, says Deloitte report | Media | The Observer .::. Size~: 155.35 KBMar 13 15:07
DaemonFCI rewrote the Ubuntu article a few years agoMar 13 15:07
DaemonFCa lot of that is meMar 13 15:07
sebsebsebalso mneptok now that's someone I didn't get on properly with before here and thereMar 13 15:07
DaemonFC"Replacing everything written in C and Python with Mono"Mar 13 15:09
DaemonFC:DMar 13 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, @coyo is starting scheme @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekkMar 13 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PiratePad: coyoandtekk .::. Size~: 69.94 KBMar 13 15:09
DaemonFCThe conference call of the Cthulu (another one of mine)Mar 13 15:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok look at identica :)Mar 13 15:11
DaemonFCspeaking of LOLCODE, someone ported it to .NET a while backMar 13 15:11
_GoblinokMar 13 15:11
sebsebseb_Goblin: and reply, thanks :)Mar 13 15:11
sebsebsebgive the context a quick look as well Mar 13 15:11
sebsebsebof the convoMar 13 15:11
sebsebsebI guessMar 13 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Six million #DNA profiles, 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Developers at #PAXEast: Intel's appup developer program wants YOU, come get an awesome shirt http://t.co/JO1XG1bMar 13 15:12
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DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/Gy2LiNc1Mar 13 15:12
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DaemonFCheheMar 13 15:12
_Goblinsebsebseb: done!Mar 13 15:12
DaemonFCnomnom=killallMar 13 15:13
DaemonFC:DMar 13 15:13
schestowitzOK, ready...Mar 13 15:13
_Goblincool me tooMar 13 15:13
schestowitzjust hutting down some stuffMar 13 15:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66900679Mar 13 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:59:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ah, link. Here it is: http://weblit.ca/?q=node/15 #amwritingMar 13 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Book of Honor - Book 1 - Urbema | weblit.ca .::. Size~: 11.67 KBMar 13 15:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: going to recomend crunchbang as well or not?Mar 13 15:14
_Goblinsebsebseb: no.....Ive not personally used it on a NetbookMar 13 15:15
DaemonFChttps://github.com/karthick18/inception/blob/master/inception.cMar 13 15:15
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sebsebseb_Goblin: ohMar 13 15:16
sebsebsebI haven't for jolicloud since I don't have a netbook, but apparently it's very good.Mar 13 15:16
_GoblinI hated it.Mar 13 15:16
_Goblintoo mobile phoney for me.Mar 13 15:16
_GoblinI want my netbook to vaguely resemble my desktop and not have some large icon "userfriendly" UI intruding on it......Mar 13 15:17
_Goblinit also felt.........shielded....for want of a better word.Mar 13 15:17
DaemonFCI think it's amusing that PC makers always choose the shittiest distros that nobody has ever heard of and then complain when customers return them and get something with WindowsMar 13 15:17
DaemonFCif I got SLED or Foresight as my first Linux distro, I may do the same thingMar 13 15:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok sounds like Canonical's Ubuntu Unity probably isn't quite for you then eitherMar 13 15:18
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_GoblinI'll reserve judgement until Ive had a chance with it.Mar 13 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Not-so-dumb joke: What word beginning w/ the letter 'A' is a person who doesn't believe in #god? Adult. twitter.com/bluharmonyMar 13 15:19
DaemonFCUnity, the alternative shell for GNOME, available in GTK+ with Compiz or QT without CompizMar 13 15:19
DaemonFCit's very unifiedMar 13 15:19
_Goblinschestowitz: any joy with your dongle and Skype?Mar 13 15:21
cubezzz_Goblin, just bought an amiga 500Mar 13 15:22
cubezzztoo good a deal to pass upMar 13 15:22
_Goblincubezzz: good work!Mar 13 15:22
cubezzzyeah I'll be able to finish some old projects finally :-0Mar 13 15:23
_GoblinI keep saying that myself.....never get around to doing it....Mar 13 15:23
cubezzzat least I'll have _one_ non x86 computerMar 13 15:23
_GoblinIve had some code which Ive been working on for about 4 years.....its only a simple rasterbar effect.....one day I'll finish it.Mar 13 15:24
cubezzzwell I have the zaurus, so I should say non x86 and non intel Mar 13 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @klang67 First UK twitter libel http://bbc.in/gu5cRp >>had to happen #twitter #libelMar 13 15:24
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cubezzzyou still own a classic amiga?Mar 13 15:24
_GoblinyepMar 13 15:24
_Goblinand a 1200Mar 13 15:24
cubezzzah niceMar 13 15:24
cubezzzI'll probably get the 1200 as wellMar 13 15:24
_GoblinI use UAE mainly though for my coding since I want to preserve my babies!Mar 13 15:25
cubezzzhmm, yes that is a concernMar 13 15:25
_Goblinthe issue is the diskdrive....Mar 13 15:25
_Goblinthat goes (as you know) its difficult to replaceMar 13 15:25
cubezzzI heard some folks have a way to fit a standard 3.5" drive on an amigaMar 13 15:26
cubezzzevidently it's similar enoughMar 13 15:26
_Goblinhow have they got around the controller?Mar 13 15:26
cubezzznot sure to be honestMar 13 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] URL Hunter! - http://bit.ly/gwwBGj "An experimental game using the URL bar as the game screen." now *that's* clever...Mar 13 15:27
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cubezzzchecking now...Mar 13 15:27
cubezzz_Goblin, there is the catweasel...Mar 13 15:28
_Goblinoh yes....I forgot.Mar 13 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What media player for !Fedora can handle multiple audio books and remember where I came to ?Mar 13 15:29
cubezzzand on some pc floppy drives they are really close to amiga driveMar 13 15:29
cubezzzjust a jumper change, so pretty easyMar 13 15:29
cubezzzyou just have to know your drive model #'s I guessMar 13 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At #Techdirt - http://bit.ly/eR144L meta-posts - and surprisingly fineMar 13 15:31
cubezzzChinon I believe is the best for amigaMar 13 15:31
cubezzzso one could in theory find a bunch of chinon drives and have the amiga work for a long timeMar 13 15:31
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cubezzzChinon FZ-354 and FZ-357Mar 13 15:32
cubezzzTeac and Panasonic/Matsushita are also reported to workMar 13 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from !BUSC proof read (just went there to introduce myself as part of the board). Now watching Die Hard 4.0. Yippiekay-yay!Mar 13 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Creedence, baby!!!!Mar 13 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Methinks Die Hard 4.0 is a movie for @jwildeboer. All the currency stuff...Mar 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is thistleweb with 153 dents!Mar 13 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I don't think that's my thing, asshole." LOL. John McLane rocks! :DMar 13 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mossgarden: lol there is a donald duck party in sweden :PMar 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Claims "App Store" is a Noun for Their Service http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/apple-claims-app-store-noun/Mar 13 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Monster sponsors a Formula 1 team now?Mar 13 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If this keeps going on, @th3k4ty can build an obsidian palace! :DMar 13 16:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: I fixed that popunder annoyance crap in ChromeMar 13 16:17
DaemonFCnow that AdblockPlus id blocking anything you have a rule fore, I loaded Fanboy's list + the annoyances and tracking add-onsMar 13 16:18
DaemonFCthen I used the hidden click to run plugin feature of ChromeMar 13 16:18
DaemonFCI haven't seen too many popups latelyMar 13 16:18
DaemonFCI suspect most of the crap generating them is either blocked by my filters or blocked because they can't use the 1 pixel flash applet trick to bypass adblock plusMar 13 16:19
DaemonFCwebsites like Phoronix brought the Adblock Plus problem down on themselvesMar 13 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Configure Touchpad http://tinyurl.com/6hkb5juMar 13 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith cameo! Now we're talkin'! :D #diehardMar 13 16:22
DaemonFCI think I'll use a boring Sunday afternoon to make a custom Fedora kernelMar 13 16:23
*DaemonFC has his eye set on 2.6.37.3 + BFQ + THP + BFSMar 13 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be PeppardmintOS with the message "I love it when a compile comes together" upon successful compile #ATeam #lamejokesMar 13 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not to be confused with "kevin smith playing a camel", which is in the deleted scenes lolMar 13 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the way McLane kicks women around the same way he kicks male ass. That's equality right there. :)Mar 13 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Black Atheists: Providing a Platform http://ur1.ca/3i8bx #AmericanAtheists #diversityMar 13 16:29
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DaemonFCI can't wait for tar.xz kernel source archivesMar 13 16:29
DaemonFCLinux is getting fairly bigMar 13 16:30
schestowitzIt's like you :-pMar 13 16:32
schestowitzIn Wal-Mart daysMar 13 16:32
schestowitzThe Wal-Martisation of LUNIXMar 13 16:32
DaemonFChuh?Mar 13 16:33
DaemonFCthey use SuseMar 13 16:33
DaemonFCand WindowsMar 13 16:33
schestowitzLinux is on high-fructose corn syrup dietMar 13 16:33
schestowitzLinus too got chubbierMar 13 16:33
schestowitzDid you see him in LCA?Mar 13 16:33
schestowitzNow he's fuller than BallmerMar 13 16:33
DaemonFCdevelopers!Mar 13 16:34
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 16:34
DaemonFCI'm hunting down all my USB devices to plug inMar 13 16:35
DaemonFCso that lsmod will see them when I run make localmodconfigMar 13 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why the hell is Nokia advertising Symbian smartphones? What a crass lie....Mar 13 16:36
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cubezzzwho is chubby?Mar 13 16:40
cubezzzLinus?Mar 13 16:40
cubezzzok, well just use old Linux if you want smallMar 13 16:41
cubezzzbeen on FC1 for 7 years now :)Mar 13 16:41
schestowitzMore than beforeMar 13 16:41
schestowitzCause he gets little exercise perhapsMar 13 16:42
cubezzzyeah it's a programmer issue...Mar 13 16:42
cubezzzI try to exercise at least 1/2 an hour per dayMar 13 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Oh sweet documentation, why the hell do you not exist for ruby/mysql?Mar 13 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh they need to dump old stockMar 13 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I still have 10 Diaspora invites left if anyone is interested, it has come a long way since late last year. !identiverseMar 13 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: 6 million #DNA profiles 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 16:44
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schestowitzcubezzz: it is...Mar 13 16:45
schestowitz_Goblin: nearly uploading nowMar 13 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh Because they didn't really gave up, they just added winphoney7 to their internal civil warMar 13 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith in Die Hard 4.0 kinda reminds me of @jontheniceguy. Must be the stormtrooper decoration... :DMar 13 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: The week in review – ending Sunday 13/03/2011 http://tinyurl.com/6dp95ppMar 13 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quilt Donation To The FilKONtario 21 Silent Auction: http://bit.ly/g8vkKv #filk #quilting #music #folkMar 13 16:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: the tune is very good, I listen to it on repeat modeMar 13 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New translations at !techrights http://ur1.ca/3i8uz http://ur1.ca/3i8v0Mar 13 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Twitter Tells Developers: You're Not Needed Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/twitter-developers-not-needed-anymore/Mar 13 17:06
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_Goblinschestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 17:06
schestowitzI think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 17:06
schestowitzIt's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 17:06
_Goblin:(Mar 13 17:06
schestowitz[21:06] <_Goblin> schestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 17:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> I think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 17:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> It's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 17:07
_GoblinI may well be going solo for a show...got some topics I want to cover that probably wouldn't work with 3 people.....more personal opinion/experiences....Mar 13 17:08
_GoblinI will make it EP 34.1 if I do.....Mar 13 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Brother advertises by telling people to stick their passwort on their monitor? WTF!?!?!?? OoMar 13 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The Sony Class Action's First Amended Complaint, as text - http://bit.ly/hC4pZC #sony #ps3 #dmca #groklawMar 13 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @lxnews I sure hope status.net doesn't do the same shit in order to be "twitter compatible"Mar 13 17:16
schestowitz_Goblin: sureMar 13 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh no! Mark didn't bother to take my arguments apart. How sad...... #sarcasmMar 13 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh I hope you know that no-one actually attempted to attack Chrome, Firefox, Android or WP7 at Pwn2Own 2011…Mar 13 17:24
DaemonFCwhy not Vista Phone 7?Mar 13 17:25
DaemonFCtoo obscure to have any widely known security bugs?Mar 13 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I already don't know what to believe in when it's related to Nokia :)Mar 13 17:26
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MinceReveryone knows it's irrelevantMar 13 17:26
MinceReveryone except mokia's major shareholders, that isMar 13 17:26
DaemonFCI have a Samsung phone running J2MEMar 13 17:26
DaemonFCit's passableMar 13 17:26
DaemonFCOpera Mini really salvages itMar 13 17:26
MinceRexcept that it's samsung and that it only runs j2me :>Mar 13 17:26
DaemonFCthe bundled Webkit browser freaks out on big pages and just complains that it won't fit into the phone's memoryMar 13 17:27
DaemonFCOpera loads them fineMar 13 17:27
MinceRthe webkit browser nokia bundles (BrowserNG) doesn't complain, it just quitsMar 13 17:27
MinceRit does that often on wikipediaMar 13 17:27
MinceRso i installed Opera Mobile insteadMar 13 17:27
DaemonFCof course Opera also compresses everything, which I doubt AT&T likes too muchMar 13 17:27
MinceRit works pretty wellMar 13 17:27
DaemonFCmore compression = less data they can ding me forMar 13 17:28
MinceRmore compression = lower quality images :>Mar 13 17:28
DaemonFCit's a phone...Mar 13 17:28
DaemonFCbesides, you CAN set it to only compress everything but imagesMar 13 17:28
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 17:28
MinceR"it's just a phone. isn't worth it."Mar 13 17:28
DaemonFCyou can save a little bit of data by only compressing HTMLMar 13 17:28
MinceRyou can often do that by telling the web server you accept gzipMar 13 17:29
DaemonFCOpera Mini is singlehandedly responsible for cutting my data bill in halfMar 13 17:29
DaemonFCthat crappy Webkit browser is a jokeMar 13 17:29
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DaemonFCcan't even remember what it's calledMar 13 17:29
MinceRs/isn't/not/Mar 13 17:29
DaemonFCwell, this is why Opera has customers, it's not possible to get decent results with Gecko or Webkit on a phoneMar 13 17:30
DaemonFCunless you deck out the CPU and beef up the battery and quadruple the RAMMar 13 17:30
MinceRi think it's possibleMar 13 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Highly unlikely and if they do we have AGPL. :DMar 13 17:31
MinceRi doubt that BrowserNG crashes because of khtml/webkitMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCWebkit is better than Gecko obviouslyMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCall aroundMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCon anythingMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCMiniMo flopped because nobody actually wanted to use it, even for freeMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCbecause its hardware requirements are too highMar 13 17:31
DaemonFCwebkit is faster, more standards compliant, and uses less resourcesMar 13 17:32
DaemonFCgiven a choice between the two, I see why everyone uses webkit on a phone instead of GeckoMar 13 17:32
DaemonFCbut if the phone maker doesn't totally cheap out, it has OperaMar 13 17:32
schestowitzMinceR: so what's your real name, Zoro?Mar 13 17:32
MinceRnopeMar 13 17:32
MinceRDaemonFC: because webkit is fashionable and gecko isn't? :>Mar 13 17:33
schestowitzZoltan?Mar 13 17:33
MinceRnopeMar 13 17:33
DaemonFCnot just fashionable, it's betterMar 13 17:33
MinceRkeep trying, there are only over 9000 more names to tryMar 13 17:33
DaemonFCnow, granted you can fuck it up by putting it in a bad browserMar 13 17:33
MinceRall the browsers i've seen so far were bad in one way or anotherMar 13 17:34
DaemonFCbut that's not the fault of Webkit, Safari sucks, a lot of these dinky no name Webkit browsers for phones like mine suckMar 13 17:34
DaemonFCOpera still has the best mobile browserMar 13 17:34
DaemonFCthat's sad when they not only have to compete with Microsoft, but also two FOSS projectsMar 13 17:34
DaemonFCI know Microsoft doesn't exactly set the bar high but you'd expect more out of free software than what's going on in Gecko or to a lesser extent, webkitMar 13 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview with man who claims he informed on Bradley Manning: A. Lamo http://is.gd/uc1zUM !wlMar 13 17:36
DaemonFCGecko simply has more $10,000 hammers and $20,000 toilet seats than WebkitMar 13 17:36
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DaemonFCand maybe some of those $50,000 coffee pots and $800 ashtrays :)Mar 13 17:36
MinceRthe web itself is a mess, they're probably tied up trying to deal with thatMar 13 17:36
DaemonFCa project that inefficient should be ran bu a governmentMar 13 17:36
DaemonFCfunny, Firefox is a joke, it's getting so bad they have to lie to cover up their own indifference and incompetence towards LinuxMar 13 17:37
DaemonFCthey blame broken drivers for their shitty OpenGL support, yet Chrome and Opera get along with OpenGL fineMar 13 17:37
DaemonFCon my "broken drivers"Mar 13 17:37
MinceRchrom{e,ium} is a worse jokeMar 13 17:38
DaemonFCif they're so broken, why does only Firefox have a problem with them? Why does everything else work fine?Mar 13 17:38
DaemonFCFirefox seems to like to grab random garbled data out of the card's back bufferMar 13 17:38
DaemonFCthat's not the fault of the driver for doing what Firefox tells it to doMar 13 17:38
DaemonFCthe driver is supposed to do what it's told, if Firefox is telling it to return the wrong data, they shouldn't bitch when they get the wrong data Mar 13 17:39
DaemonFCgranted it would be nice if the FGLRX command stream checker was as nifty as the radeon free driver'sMar 13 17:40
DaemonFCbut generally, it's not the job of the hardware or the driver to be psychic and know that a userspace app is being retardedMar 13 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We admire Mr Crowley, formerly of the US State Department, for speaking up for Bradley Manning. !wlMar 13 17:41
DaemonFCI'll use Firefox when it stops being retarded and starts asking the card to return the right dataMar 13 17:41
DaemonFCyou know, like Chrome doesMar 13 17:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 17:41
MinceRi'll use chrome when it stops being retarded and stops trying to crash the kernel when it crashesMar 13 17:42
MinceRyou know, like every other app doesn'tMar 13 17:42
DaemonFCbut fat chance that will ever happen as long as Mozilla is mostly just rubberneckers rushing to implement Microsoft technology that only works on WindowsMar 13 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man Jesus. The situation in #Japan looks more and more terrible. Multiple meltdowns, ten thousands dead....Mar 13 17:42
DaemonFCinstead of calling this out, many people are apologizing for itMar 13 17:42
MinceRplease remind me what os was chrome originally exclusively developed for because i forgotMar 13 17:43
MinceR:>Mar 13 17:43
DaemonFCyes Firefox is free software, no that doesn't excuse it from degrading like it has on anything non-WindowsMar 13 17:43
DaemonFCit doesn't even work right on a MacMar 13 17:43
MinceRwhat works right on a mac?Mar 13 17:43
DaemonFCtrueMar 13 17:43
MinceRthe price tag?Mar 13 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Wer künftig auf Atomkraft setzt, ist verantwortungslos." #RTLMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCChrome has basically been rewritten now that Google smells dollar signs from duct taping together a system loosely based on Linux and ChromeMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCin some ways, it works better on Linux than it does on WindowsMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCespecially regarding sandboxing, the APIs to do it on Windows are not all that greatMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCand easier to work aroundMar 13 17:45
DaemonFCthey have no real interest in anchoring it to Windows and pointing to Windows 7 when you ask what you have to do to make something work rightMar 13 17:45
DaemonFClike Mozilla doesMar 13 17:45
MinceRchrome probably works better without sandboxingMar 13 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Kenyan police accused of assassinating two human rights lawyers http://is.gd/NutpHk !wlMar 13 17:46
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DaemonFCthe SUID sandboxing is unobtrusive, the seccomp sandbox method has some kinksMar 13 17:46
DaemonFCbut it's mostly usableMar 13 17:46
DaemonFCFirefox doesn't sandbox at all, it's not even multithreadedMar 13 17:46
MinceRi won't let code from google run as root again on my boxesMar 13 17:46
DaemonFCthe only reason Firefox doesn't balloon to over a gig of RAM used up anymore is because they have a garbage reclaimer that they took from FreeBSDMar 13 17:47
MinceRi'm waiting for electrolysis to make it into an official ff releaseMar 13 17:47
DaemonFCthey had to use one licensed BSD because of their tri-license nonsenseMar 13 17:48
DaemonFCif they just relicensed all of Mozilla under the GPL, it would open up a lot more code to themMar 13 17:48
DaemonFCbut their mentality is more in line with BSDMar 13 17:48
DaemonFCsteal our code, please!Mar 13 17:48
DaemonFCrip us off, don't give back!Mar 13 17:49
MinceRexcept for trademarksMar 13 17:49
DaemonFCyou know Mozilla's quality is bad when Apple could have forked them under the BSD license and kept Safari closed sourceMar 13 17:49
DaemonFCand they took KHTML insteadMar 13 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linux #androidMar 13 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: and @danielmarti Read what I typed about #Ubuntu and #Canonical #Unity here :): http://identi.ca/conversation/66091074Mar 13 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Raster turbulence - !Gimp stuff http://ping.fm/lg92ZMar 13 17:51
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ah yes, the selective trademark licensingMar 13 17:51
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DaemonFCDebian can't call it Firefox, but Ubuntu can use all the same patches and then some, and it's FirefoxMar 13 17:51
DaemonFCit's all about quality control, right?Mar 13 17:51
DaemonFCnot singling anyone out :)Mar 13 17:51
DaemonFCbig companies scratch each others backs, it's why so much garbage that doesn't belong in Linux is in LinuxMar 13 17:52
DaemonFChv anyone?Mar 13 17:52
_GoblinI am a fish.Mar 13 17:53
DaemonFCthe staging tree has ballooned the kernel sources so much that it's about to exceed 100 megs as a tarballMar 13 17:53
DaemonFCthe only reason that is there is so they can pile in a bunch of crappy drivers without having to stand by any of themMar 13 17:53
_Goblincan't go wrong with drivers, crappy or otherwise.....Mar 13 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linuxMar 13 17:54
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DaemonFCa lot of companies now only get their drivers good enough to be in staging then they bailMar 13 17:54
DaemonFCand say they support linuxMar 13 17:54
DaemonFCit encourages bad drivers by offering to look the other way while the crap gets piled onMar 13 17:55
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_Goblinand its any different on Windows 7?Mar 13 17:55
_GoblinI know more than one person having real hardware probs with win7 and flatbed scanners.Mar 13 17:55
DaemonFCyeah, even Microsoft won't sign a driver that crashes too muchMar 13 17:55
DaemonFCyou crash too much, you risk getting your signing revokedMar 13 17:55
_Goblinso no support at all is better than partial?Mar 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Drunk Souls - Give me a sign on !jamendo #funky http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/1052Mar 13 17:56
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DaemonFCI'd rather them say do it right or don't bother, than put in a driver that randomly locks up my computer that most distros build by defaultMar 13 17:56
_GoblinIve never experienced that.....certainly not with Linux.Mar 13 17:57
_GoblinI did however experience that with Windows, hence I moved completely.Mar 13 17:57
DaemonFCunder the old system, by the time Ralink was allowed to merge the driver for my RT61, it was stable, now they just dump their new stuff into stagingMar 13 17:57
_Goblinmaybe Ive been luckyMar 13 17:57
DaemonFCand it crashes and freezes the kernel randomlyMar 13 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Manufacturer and handset market share in an !android app with google analytics | Stealthcopter.com http://ping.fm/TjblVMar 13 17:57
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_Goblinno such thing as random.......theres a good discussion for the channel.Mar 13 17:57
_Goblintheres order in chaos and all that.Mar 13 17:58
DaemonFCWell, the kernel.org people have said if anything taints your kernel, they don't want your bug reportsMar 13 17:58
DaemonFCso if you load staging drivers, FGLRX, nvidia, or ndiswrapper, you can't submit bugsMar 13 17:58
DaemonFCeven if it's unrelatedMar 13 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Prodigy - OmenMar 13 17:59
schestowitz_Goblin: I listen to the show now, which I never do (I don't like hearing myself) and it seems like I interrupted you a lot. I hadn't noticed.Mar 13 17:59
_Goblinand thats a big issue is it? this is what the mainstream is wanting is it?Mar 13 17:59
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....never been an issue, its part of the charm....Mar 13 18:00
DaemonFCbefore staging, a lot of this crap ended up in mmMar 13 18:00
DaemonFCno distro was crazy enough to use mmMar 13 18:00
DaemonFClife was good :)Mar 13 18:00
schestowitzuploading at 6k/secondMar 13 18:01
_Goblinlol.Mar 13 18:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 18:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:02
_Goblinschestowitz: sounds like you;ve been throttled and branded an evil pirate......that'll teach you for sharing your own materialMar 13 18:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: Considered satellite?Mar 13 18:03
_Goblinor carrier pigeonMar 13 18:03
DaemonFCor telegraphMar 13 18:03
DaemonFCI hear there's this transatlantic cableMar 13 18:03
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Bored #shitless :|Mar 13 18:04
DaemonFCugh, it's been so long since I used one of my systems I had it using radeonhdMar 13 18:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And even if they get this shit cooled down, they'll have a partially melted reactor core to deal with. This is already a disaster regardlessMar 13 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Chernobyl sarcophagus will have to be there for like 300 years. Imagine that in Japan. Plutonium half life is like 80 years....Mar 13 18:09
_GoblinI think I'm going to play Trinity on the PS3Mar 13 18:11
_Goblinyeah, why not....Mar 13 18:11
_Goblinschestowitz: FYI Gordon came up with a good name for tonights ep: "done on a dongle"Mar 13 18:12
schestowitzLOLMar 13 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody who after this *again* tries to argue for nuclear power needs to be shot on sight to cleanse the gene pool. Gimme a fucking break!Mar 13 18:14
schestowitz[22:03] <_Goblin> or carrier pigeonMar 13 18:15
schestowitz"Done on a pigeon"Mar 13 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @sebsebseb why do you prefer gnome shell over unity?Mar 13 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please tell @PJCrowley (Clinton spokesperson who resigned over WikiLeaks/Manning) that you support his courage. !wlMar 13 18:16
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....Mar 13 18:16
schestowitzploaded 2.7 MB..Mar 13 18:17
schestowitzOut of 32 MBMar 13 18:17
schestowitzseems like an overnight upload... welcome back to 28.8 daze..Mar 13 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke Phone Etiquette - Part 2 http://goo.gl/x0gvaMar 13 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede: !Canonical and !GNOME: the Atlantic chasm? http://goo.gl/UFkAsMar 13 18:17
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schestowitz[22:02] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 18:17
DaemonFCI hope Fedora 15 doesn't ship with Mesa 7.10Mar 13 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to bed. Last night I actually had a nightmare I was in an exploded nuclear plant. That was terrible. Stay save #Japan! I feel 4 you!Mar 13 18:19
DaemonFC7.11 is so much faster on my EvergreenMar 13 18:19
schestowitzI reckon ISPs also think it's "an act of piracy" when you pass audio files via FTP (very retro, before napster days)Mar 13 18:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: The open source radeon driver is faster on my laptop's RV480 than Catalyst ever wasMar 13 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://alturl.com/2bkuo !wlMar 13 18:21
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DaemonFCalso, Catalyst only ever got up to OpenGL 2.0 before dumping it even though the card is 2.1 capableMar 13 18:21
schestowitzIt looks to them like illicit stuffMar 13 18:21
schestowitz"Slow it, Jim, slow it!"Mar 13 18:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: what OS are you on now?Mar 13 18:21
DaemonFCthis system = Fedora 14 but I've made some modifications B-)Mar 13 18:22
DaemonFCI have Linux 2.6.38-rc8, I patched the FGLRX glue layer to support itMar 13 18:22
DaemonFCtrivial, like 3 lines, I got the patch from ArchMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCI also got their patch to make FGLRX not depend on the Big Kernel LockMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCso my kernel has no BKL since that was the only thing I had that used itMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCthe kernel has all the realtime stuff enabled, BFS, BFQ, BFQ group scheduler Mar 13 18:24
DaemonFCremoval of every feature I don't need and every driver I don't useMar 13 18:24
DaemonFCthe RPM package for my kernel only ended up being like 30 megsMar 13 18:25
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 18:25
DaemonFCthere's also a lot of "while I'm in here anyway" stuff, like setting max CPUs to 4 and max GPUs to 2Mar 13 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://alturl.com/nj7ew !wlMar 13 18:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I typically compile stuff within YakuakeMar 13 18:27
DaemonFCthen all I have to do is hit F12 and see how it's coming along :)Mar 13 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/13/ap/eu... http://bit.ly/dTfQEBMar 13 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/13/crowley-manning-resignation/ http://bit.ly/dRtbasMar 13 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 18:34
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schestowitzgnMar 13 18:34
_Goblingn mateMar 13 18:34
schestowitzmight take 20 hours to uploadMar 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: #WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/13/ap/eu... http://bit.ly/dTfQEBMar 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Court Rules Government Can Collect Private Records of Twitter Users » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union htMar 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] And my marriage anniversary as well (intentionally) ♺ @gbraad: Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Off to mountain viewMar 13 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Crowley resignation letter: "The exercise of power must be prudent and consistent with our laws and values" !wlMar 13 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sleeveroller: RT @vGuyUK: explanation of #Fukushima incident by Josef Oehman at MIT: http://t.co/xgjDZVl #japanMar 13 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad hehehehMar 13 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My uncool secret. I really like Porridge :)Mar 13 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @toros: !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with Unity!Mar 13 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with #Unity!Mar 13 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Time for bed.Mar 13 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Experimental 3D Acceleration of Nouveau works well. I don't feel the desire to install the Nvidia propritary binary blob #freesoftwareMar 13 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Surviving Disaster: Japan’s Internet http://is.gd/LEkL9JMar 13 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Welcome @ferguskelly :)Mar 13 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Congratulations! Get's an identity like @lilbernie ;) ♺ @macno: Maddalena is born!!!!! She and her mom are fine!Mar 13 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @njpatel Resizing dash and properly collapsing homeview http://is.gd/s6D3sF . Now time for FIFA11!Mar 13 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canvas Rider seems to be an HTML5 game? http://canvasrider.com/Mar 13 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] spot the astroturfers in the comments http://tighturl.com/303a they're so obvious they may as well wear name badgesMar 13 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Hacker,now in hiding,who turned in #Manning accused over WikiLeaks,says he got "coffee and a pat on the back" !wikileaks http://is.gd/uc1zUMMar 13 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm guessing. I can never work games out :)Mar 13 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So this Google circles is scheduled for May now, not imminent at all?Mar 13 19:24
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MinceRi like having a big pile of drivers if it means good hw supportMar 13 19:25
MinceRas for crApple's choice of html renderer, who gives a fuck what those retards think is good?Mar 13 19:26
MinceRthe same people who came up with darwin...Mar 13 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Social Media Monitoring in the Russian Speaking Internet « Social media lessons from Russia and the UK http://ping.fm/CV94jMar 13 19:31
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Ender2070they use webkit afaikMar 13 19:33
Ender2070nothing wrong with thatMar 13 19:33
MinceRbut it's hardly an argument for itMar 13 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Twitter explains... but your comments don't really cover new !Opensource !twitter clients that don't need to make money, @rsarver ? http://pMar 13 19:37
Ender2070there isn't much out there that is better than webkitMar 13 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The link that got clipped referred to the NextWeb story @rsarver http://tnw.co/dEc7ISMar 13 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If you developed (or are developing) a 3rd party #Twitter app, this is the time to move over to #StatusNet. Twitter doesn't want you anymoreMar 13 19:57
tessierschestowitz: What's wrong with varnish?Mar 13 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @zach: @macno Big congrats! +1Mar 13 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lights have flickered a few times in the last few mins, it's like the flat is under attack and the emergency power is cutting inMar 13 20:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: Just be glad you don't live upstairs from the family in The Hills Have EyesMar 13 20:48
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:48
DaemonFChow often do they update RadeonFeature?Mar 13 20:53
DaemonFCit says HDMI audio doesn't work on EvergreenMar 13 20:53
DaemonFCmine has been working for monthsMar 13 20:53
DaemonFCmost of the Cayman Islands support was copypasting EvergreenMar 13 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 @psquid Fedora 11 is now 100% ready for you to use html tables for *data* best shown in rows and columns. This is weirdMar 13 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Lamo: Manning 'led on' by Assange. New claim that bolsters US govt extradition case. Why now? http://bit.ly/fPeBJp !wlMar 13 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @nybill: @macno Congratulations you two!Mar 13 21:22
DaemonFCyou no longer have to pass icantbelieveitsnotbtr on the kernel line to enable BtrFS in AnacondaMar 13 21:27
DaemonFCbut since Fedora is still using Grub 0.97, you have to have a separate /boot partitionMar 13 21:28
DaemonFChehMar 13 21:28
DaemonFChttp://libav.org/Mar 13 21:29
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DaemonFCmakes more sense than ffmpegMar 13 21:29
DaemonFCjust because mpeg formats are only a few of the formats they supportMar 13 21:29
MinceRbut can it decode h.264 and vc-1 with frame-level parallelism?Mar 13 21:30
DaemonFCfuck if I care, it plays my bootlegged xvi......errr I mean....Mar 13 21:31
DaemonFCmy home movies in Ogg TheoraMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 21:31
MinceR:>Mar 13 21:31
DaemonFCVC-1 was the format Microsoft was trying to declare open with patent grants to everyoneMar 13 21:32
DaemonFCbut the MPEG-LA formed a patent pool over itMar 13 21:32
MinceRi knowMar 13 21:32
MinceRthere are people stupid enough to do rips in vc-1Mar 13 21:33
MinceReven though nobody wants to support itMar 13 21:33
DaemonFCit is part of the Blu Ray standard, though only a handful of discs use itMar 13 21:33
DaemonFCH.264 provides better quality and is the same price to licenseMar 13 21:33
DaemonFCwhy screw around with VC-1?Mar 13 21:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:33
MinceRah, so it was probably the disc's faultMar 13 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Rule of thumb - if your new follower's picture is of an attractive woman with a nice set of boobs, it's probably a spammer :)Mar 13 21:34
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would use VC-1 on a Blu RayMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCkind of beats the point of zomg qualityMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCbetween the two, h.264 is the better formatMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCVC-1 compares mostly to MPEG-4 ASP codecs like DivXMar 13 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter "set" is an odd term in this context, it implies various numbers ;PMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCWebM is somewhere between DivX and x264 quality wiseMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCthe main reasons to use it are because it's supposedly unpatented and it beats DivXMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCI'm not so sure about unpatented, not to FUD WebM, but just because who knows how a 90 year old judge, a nurse, a plumber, a school teacher, a few used car salesmen, etc. on the jury will decideMar 13 21:37
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:37
DaemonFCthere's how this patent system furthers itselfMar 13 21:38
DaemonFCthey pack the jury with incompetents who can't even turn a computer onMar 13 21:38
DaemonFCand ask them to decide software patent casesMar 13 21:38
DaemonFCso even if WebM doesn't violate the patent, they still may rule that it does just because the patent is vague and the jury is composed of tech illiterates and there's some lawyer razzle dazzling them in his $5,000 suitMar 13 21:40
DaemonFConce it gets into the appeals court, it could actually be worse because the president handpicks those judgesMar 13 21:41
DaemonFCbetter hope it doesn't go to an Obama appointeeMar 13 21:41
DaemonFCwe know his admin is in bed with the MAFIAAMar 13 21:41
MinceR:>Mar 13 21:42
MinceRso's the corporate puppet himselfMar 13 21:42
DaemonFCyeah, his job is to sugar coat the gigantic turd that's about to hit usMar 13 21:42
DaemonFCthat's why they appointed himMar 13 21:42
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2638_large&num=2Mar 13 21:43
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DaemonFCwhat's with the BtrFS hype?Mar 13 21:43
DaemonFCnobody should be using that on an SSDMar 13 21:44
sebsebsebDaemonFC: What's with the Ubuntu hype?Mar 13 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter well, the triple breasted whore from erotica 4 was popular enough to make it into the hitch-hikers guide to the galaxyMar 13 21:44
DaemonFCwith an SSD you're better off with Ext4, no journaling, noatimeMar 13 21:44
sebsebsebMinceR: How come your no sleeping?Mar 13 21:44
DaemonFCall the journal will do for an SSD is slow it down and wear it out fasterMar 13 21:44
MinceRsebsebseb: there's a national holiday on the 15thMar 13 21:45
MinceRand the workday on the 14th was moved to saturdayMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCHungarian Freedom DayMar 13 21:45
MinceR(but i'll probably take saturday off anyway)Mar 13 21:45
sebsebsebMinceR: ohMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCthey all gather round Stalin's BootsMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCand singing Mar 13 21:45
DaemonFCit's quite beautifulMar 13 21:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:45
MinceRDaemonFC: btrfs is one of the two fs-es that has support for TRIM, afaikMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCnopeMar 13 21:45
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DaemonFCXFS supports TRIMMar 13 21:45
MinceRit also has an ssd mode, iirc, but moronix says it actually makes things worseMar 13 21:45
sebsebsebMinceR: what's your job anyway?Mar 13 21:46
DaemonFCit's called DISCARDMar 13 21:46
MinceRoh.Mar 13 21:46
MinceRbtrfs is one of the two relevant fs-es that has support for TRIM, afaikMar 13 21:46
MinceRthere you go :>Mar 13 21:46
MinceRsebsebseb: i'm a software developerMar 13 21:46
DaemonFC:(Mar 13 21:46
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah for WindowsMar 13 21:46
MinceRsebsebseb: ?Mar 13 21:46
sebsebsebMinceR: in fact even worse, for Microsoft HungaryMar 13 21:47
DaemonFCMinceR: I run Ext4 with nobarrierMar 13 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @GuidoPuddi: RT @GroupAnon: Stick around guys, You'll love what we've got for you early on Monday! #anonops #anonymous #BofAMar 13 21:47
MinceRsebsebseb: what are you on about?Mar 13 21:47
DaemonFCit's a lot less dangerous than they make it soundMar 13 21:47
sebsebsebMinceR: heh hehMar 13 21:47
DaemonFCwith XFS you want barriers unless it's battery backed upMar 13 21:47
DaemonFCExt4 is not that dangerous without barriers because it keeps the journal ordered and contiguous Mar 13 21:48
DaemonFCXFS doesn't try to do eitherMar 13 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: Decentralized global rebellion against Neoliberal economic policies http://bit.ly/fWHgvg link between Wisconsin Egypt & TunisiaMar 13 21:49
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DaemonFCdisable barriers and watch how quick Ext4 is at things like unpacking kernel tarballsMar 13 21:49
DaemonFC30% faster or soMar 13 21:49
sebsebsebMinceR: What software you make and for what?Mar 13 21:50
sebsebseboh and languages?Mar 13 21:50
DaemonFCbarriers make less sense on Ext3 because it doesn't have delayed allocation or extentsMar 13 21:50
DaemonFCI'd say turning it off there is a no brainerMar 13 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @jamesroughton: Drupal Information is out http://bit.ly/h7P9QQ ▸ Top stories today via @t4tom @malcolm8 @delcerro @_the_mad_hatter @prowpMar 13 21:51
MinceRsebsebseb: currently some medical imaging sw for GE HealthcareMar 13 21:51
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sebsebsebMinceR: what's GE?Mar 13 21:51
MinceRsebsebseb: C++ and a bit of BASH scripting (with some AWK and whatever)Mar 13 21:51
MinceRsebsebseb: general electricMar 13 21:51
DaemonFCit's the default mount option on Ext3 (barriers on) lately because apparently someone felt the need to make ext3 even slowerMar 13 21:51
sebsebsebI didn't know their  is a langauge called AWKMar 13 21:51
DaemonFCMinceR: GE makes good percolatorsMar 13 21:51
DaemonFCI have two of themMar 13 21:51
DaemonFCone is from the 1950s and still worksMar 13 21:52
MinceRsebsebseb: it's common on unixesMar 13 21:52
sebsebsebMinceR: ohMar 13 21:52
DaemonFCI switched to percolators because there's hard water hereMar 13 21:52
DaemonFCand they're difficult to jam upMar 13 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Celebratory Dinner! If you missed it, this is what we're celebrating: http://twurl.nl/lpvy7jMar 13 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Who's on the New York Times extended bestseller list? Who screamed until her lungs hurt? THAT WOULD BE ME.Mar 13 21:54
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DaemonFCExt4 is still much faster than BtrFSMar 13 21:54
DaemonFCbut BtrFS has all those features, the ones I don't needMar 13 21:54
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:54
DaemonFCwhatever happened to tar as a backup tool? wimpsMar 13 21:54
DaemonFC:PMar 13 21:55
MinceRDaemonFC: tar and readonly snapshots are orthogonalMar 13 21:55
DaemonFCthese companies like automation because that way they can fire peopleMar 13 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] If you haven't read anything by @seananmcguire yet, you really should. She's a damned fine author, getting better with every book.Mar 13 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Corporate media smears WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/qn28o !wlMar 13 21:56
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MinceRDaemonFC: dey took our jerbs!Mar 13 21:57
DaemonFCyeahMar 13 21:57
MinceRyou can make a readonly snapshot of a consistent state of the fs, and resume work on the fs while you tar it up for backupMar 13 21:57
DaemonFCthere are a few of those benchmarks where BtrFS destroys Ext4Mar 13 21:58
DaemonFCbut it seems to be the exceptionMar 13 21:58
MinceRext4 in blackholefs or ext4 with ext3-like workarounds?Mar 13 21:59
MinceRs/in/as in/Mar 13 21:59
DaemonFCExt4 now defaults to mimicking Ext3's behavior in cases of replace via renameMar 13 21:59
DaemonFCthat doesn't really cost a lot of speedMar 13 21:59
MinceRusing an unreliable heuristicMar 13 21:59
DaemonFCbarrier is what killed Ext4Mar 13 22:00
MinceRbecause who cares if your data will be there, all that matters is speedMar 13 22:00
MinceRand by the way, we want you to build the GUI into the kernel, for speedMar 13 22:00
DaemonFCthe hard disk is already the slowest thing in the computerMar 13 22:00
DaemonFCwhy do we have to make it slower? :)Mar 13 22:00
MinceRit is also the only thing that will store a lot of your data while the computer is off or being rebootedMar 13 22:01
DaemonFCthere are those high RPM drives, which are a lot of fun when they crashMar 13 22:01
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 22:01
MinceRnot so fun if there's mission critical data on them when they do soMar 13 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @DFAIT_MAECI Minister #Cannon: CF assets, incl airlift, personnel, R offered 2 for humanitarian efforts in #Japan.Mar 13 22:04
DaemonFCMinceR: I've got one for youMar 13 22:08
DaemonFCWhy does Western Digital sell hard drives in 20 packs?Mar 13 22:09
DaemonFCBecause that way you might find one that works.Mar 13 22:09
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:09
MinceR:>Mar 13 22:09
MinceRi have yet to find one that doesn'tMar 13 22:09
MinceRmeanwhile, my seagate didn't last longMar 13 22:09
DaemonFC3 TB hard drivesMar 13 22:11
DaemonFCDo you want that on one partition (Linux) or two (Windows)?Mar 13 22:11
MinceR3TB is more than i'd trust winblows to manageMar 13 22:12
DaemonFCby the time you hit 2 TB, NTFS is using 64K clustersMar 13 22:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 22:12
DaemonFCthe more capacity you have, the more Windows wastesMar 13 22:13
DaemonFCso far it manages to waste enough to neutralize all attempts at upgrading a PCMar 13 22:14
DaemonFCcommendable Mar 13 22:14
MinceR:>Mar 13 22:14
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DaemonFCyou have a dual core? Here's Vista no with 300 system servicesMar 13 22:16
DaemonFCbetter buy more RAM while you're outMar 13 22:17
DaemonFC*nowMar 13 22:17
MinceRbetter buy 4G and have vista only use 3.12G or so of itMar 13 22:17
MinceRinstall SP1 to make vista hide this fact from youMar 13 22:17
DaemonFCthat's 32 bit VistaMar 13 22:17
MinceRoh well, a toy system for toy tasksMar 13 22:18
DaemonFCif you bought anything less than Ultimate,you had to send in a coupon and your Vista disc and wait 3 weeks toe get the 64-bit version back in the mailMar 13 22:18
DaemonFCand if you got 32-bit OEM, you're stuck with itMar 13 22:18
MinceRand then finally you have the version that has no drivers and breaks with most of your apps?Mar 13 22:19
MinceRand who didn't get winblows OEM? it's not like buyers get a choiceMar 13 22:19
DaemonFCthere's 64-bit drivers out for just about everythingMar 13 22:19
DaemonFCmost OEMs are shipping the 64-bit version of Windows nowMar 13 22:19
MinceRwhat about older apps and peripherals?Mar 13 22:20
DaemonFCit says on the box which version it isMar 13 22:20
abeNd-orgdell still offers vista32 on a lot of their workstations, kinda amusingMar 13 22:20
MinceRdHell calling the crap they have the audacity to sell "workstations" is also kind of amusingMar 13 22:21
DaemonFC" Edward Shishkin, one of the Reiser4 developers now working for Red Hat, was asked in Q2/2010 to take a detailed look into Btrfs. He judged that its design was 'completely broken', as certain design flaws could lead to large (unbounded) amounts of unusable 'free space'.[12][13][14]"Mar 13 22:21
DaemonFChehMar 13 22:21
MinceRDaemonFC: also, now you get to dual boot 32bit vista with 64bit vistaMar 13 22:21
MinceRthat must be fun tooMar 13 22:21
DaemonFCwhy would anyone do that?Mar 13 22:22
DaemonFChttp://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/18/144Mar 13 22:22
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abeNd-orgtheir optiplex machines are pretty good, & their precision line are real nice, but if you judge dell by their dimension/vostro lines then thats selling dell shortMar 13 22:22
MinceRi judge dHell by their inspiron and latitude linesMar 13 22:23
abeNd-orginspiron is just consumer grade junk, the precision laptops are greatMar 13 22:23
MinceRthey're all RoadReady™, according to dHellMar 13 22:24
MinceRalso, dHell's trackpoint imitation kind of sucksMar 13 22:24
MinceRit sometimes just keeps on going when you let go of itMar 13 22:24
abeNd-orgthey just oem the same touchpad as everyone elseMar 13 22:25
MinceRit's not a touchpadMar 13 22:25
MinceRand they obviously couldn't copy the original (ThinkPad) implementation due to patentsMar 13 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Maybe the #ATTDataCaps will finally mobilize enough people to push Congress to separate owning the copper/fiber from providing ISP services.Mar 13 22:26
abeNd-orgsynaptics touchpad, same as on the hp im onMar 13 22:26
MinceRi'm still not talking about the touchpadMar 13 22:26
MinceRbut the trackpoint :>Mar 13 22:26
abeNd-orgah, i havent really putzed with the mousenubMar 13 22:26
MinceR:)Mar 13 22:27
MinceRit wasn't easy for me but i've grown to like itMar 13 22:27
MinceRespecially after installing the concave capMar 13 22:27
abeNd-orgi keep a retractable mouse in my bag for use, the trackpad & mousenub (even on thinkpads) bug meMar 13 22:28
MinceRi tend to prefer a mouse too, so i carry my G9x oftenMar 13 22:28
abeNd-orgthat is one crazy mouseMar 13 22:29
MinceRit works wonders in deathmatch :>Mar 13 22:30
abeNd-orgheh, i don't have time to play games anymoreMar 13 22:31
abeNd-orgor do anything else other than workMar 13 22:31
MinceRsadly i have very little time to play gamesMar 13 22:33
abeNd-orgim pretty bad about prioritization lately though, but being stuck in traffic for 4hrs a day tends to make me not give a rip by the time i get homeMar 13 22:35
abeNd-orgtraffic makes me really hate humanity these daysMar 13 22:36
abeNd-orgfoot on gas people, is it really that hard? </minirant>Mar 13 22:36
abeNd-orgat least i get to listen to audiobooksMar 13 22:37
abeNd-orgive wiped out the collection of most of the libraries around the areaMar 13 22:37
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MinceRtraffic makes me hate humanity too, but in many more ways than thatMar 13 22:38
MinceRfor example, you might assume that walking is a skill most humans learn in early childhoodMar 13 22:38
abeNd-orgpeople admire traffic wrecks so much, that they end up in them after rubbernecking..Mar 13 22:38
MinceR:>Mar 13 22:39
MinceRof course budapest's puny road system doesn't help eitherMar 13 22:39
abeNd-orgi wish the highway dept would build higher dividers between the roadways, that way people would stop slowing down & drooling over wrecks going the total opposite way that have affect on traffic going their wayMar 13 22:39
abeNd-orgbudapest, so that is where you are out of? never knew your location in this little worldMar 13 22:40
MinceRit's the joke of a city i live inMar 13 22:41
abeNd-orgI live in DFW (dallas) which has no mass transit to speak of (not that my job would lend itself to using it anyways)Mar 13 22:43
MinceRwell, mass transport in budapest is about as atrocious as the road systemMar 13 22:44
MinceRand of course there's no bicycle road network so that method is pretty much slow suicideMar 13 22:44
MinceRi wonder if people west from here are as barbaric as hereMar 13 22:45
abeNd-orgyou put someone behind the wheel in any country & they become braveMar 13 22:45
abeNd-orgits like commenters on the internetMar 13 22:45
abeNd-orgonly with a few tons of metalMar 13 22:45
MinceRthat's why i want to upgrade my car to a SUV or an APC or a tank or a mechaMar 13 22:45
MinceRit's war out thereMar 13 22:45
abeNd-orgdude i just want a jetpackMar 13 22:46
abeNd-orgskip the roads, just fly directly to the clientMar 13 22:46
DaemonFCif you ride a bicycle here people will honk at you and purposely try to run you off the roadMar 13 22:47
abeNd-orgin most stateside college towns they have bike linesMar 13 22:48
abeNd-orglanesMar 13 22:48
MinceRwe have sporadic bike lanes and bike pathsMar 13 22:49
MinceRbut not enough to get far without having to risk one's life among carsMar 13 22:49
MinceR(and of course most drivers are in suicide mode)Mar 13 22:49
MinceR(for example, switching lanes is "elbow your way into the other lane without signaling and hope the other guy brakes to avoid a collision")Mar 13 22:50
DaemonFChave to get home, can't spend 1 second avoiding guy on bicycle, SPLAT!Mar 13 22:50
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:50
MinceR:)Mar 13 22:50
abeNd-orgthat sounds pretty universalMar 13 22:50
MinceRsee, that's the tank is forMar 13 22:50
MinceR("are you sure you want to risk that collision?")Mar 13 22:50
abeNd-orgthats why i wont drive a motorcycle around town either, sure the gas mileage would be great! but every single person I know of that rides a motorcycle around town has been in an accident, & most not their faultMar 13 22:50
DaemonFCMinceR: I don't want a tank, I want James Bond's Aston Martin with the stinger missiles and suchMar 13 22:51
abeNd-orgoh yea, a tank, i used to drive a 1988 lincoln towncar, that thing was beautiful!Mar 13 22:51
DaemonFCadaptive camoflauge evenMar 13 22:51
MinceRDaemonFC: you'd run out of ammo pretty quickly in budapestMar 13 22:51
DaemonFCthat's what the pit maneuver is forMar 13 22:52
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:52
abeNd-org4,040 poundsMar 13 22:52
DaemonFCI was watching COPS one night where a 15 year old in a stolen Cadillac used the pit maneuver on the copsMar 13 22:53
abeNd-org219.2 in longMar 13 22:53
DaemonFCthat was some funny shitMar 13 22:53
MinceRabeNd-org: sure, but does it look menacing enough?Mar 13 22:54
DaemonFCMinceR: I know COPS is propaganda, don't start. It's just funny watching white trailer trash and black crack whores and illegal Mexicans getting their asses kickedMar 13 22:54
DaemonFCis that so wrong, really? :)Mar 13 22:54
DaemonFCput down the 40 and buy some new fillingsMar 13 22:55
DaemonFCdayumMar 13 22:55
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:55
abeNd-orgmincer yesMar 13 22:55
abeNd-orgMinceR: the lincoln hood ornament for that year still stuck out, & is a crosshairsMar 13 22:55
MinceR:DMar 13 22:55
DaemonFCin other words, perfect for those pesky pedestriansMar 13 22:56
DaemonFCif it was only a bit longer, we could make a shishkabob out of themMar 13 22:56
DaemonFC:(Mar 13 22:56
MinceRyou don't get bonus points for hitting the pedestrian with the frontMar 13 22:56
MinceR:>Mar 13 22:56
abeNd-orgi never paid attention to the fuel economy, but i do miss it, people on the road would move out of my wayMar 13 22:56
DaemonFCwell, gas is $3.64 a gallonMar 13 22:57
abeNd-orgit used to belong to an old florida couple, so i left all the old people bumper stickers on it so people thought i was an elderly person driving it, which kept people even further away from me while i was on the road :)Mar 13 22:57
DaemonFCso much for the gas guzzlers, the rich people now have sole claim to the V8 engine tooMar 13 22:57
abeNd-orgyea, i got rid of that car for a gas sipper years agoMar 13 22:58
abeNd-orgno way i could afford it nowMar 13 22:58
DaemonFCMinceR: next thing that hits the market is a wind up carMar 13 22:58
DaemonFCI guarantee itMar 13 22:58
abeNd-orga nice little kia :DMar 13 22:59
DaemonFCand you'll still have eco terrorists complaining that you had to consume food to get the energy to wind it withMar 13 22:59
DaemonFCand how dare you have meat loaf for dinner before winding your toy carMar 13 22:59
DaemonFCfascistMar 13 22:59
DaemonFChitlerMar 13 22:59
DaemonFCnaziMar 13 22:59
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 22:59
abeNd-orgthose eco terrorists should end themselves to do the world a big favorMar 13 22:59
DaemonFCThere's plenty of room for all of god's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes Mar 13 23:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 23:00
MinceRDaemonFC: mechanical hybrid? :>Mar 13 23:00
abeNd-orgeww, i like my mashed potatoes, keep the eco terrorists awayMar 13 23:00
MinceRi've already seen stuff about air pressure-based hybridsMar 13 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @missoularedhead: RT @AtheistQ: Here's a tip: if you're killing someone in the name of god you're missing the message Nick Annis #atheistMar 13 23:01
DaemonFCMinceR: I told my brother to turn all that shit in his room off before Al Gore makes a movie about himMar 13 23:01
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 23:01
MinceRDaemonFC: also, i'm not sure if eco terrorists are good for youMar 13 23:01
DaemonFCyeah, they tend to eat AlfalfaMar 13 23:01
DaemonFCthey look sickly and deprived of B vitaminsMar 13 23:01
DaemonFCyou don't know where that hippie has been, spit it outMar 13 23:01
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 23:01
abeNd-orgthey cant taste very good eitherMar 13 23:02
MinceRthey probably still eat all sorts of artificial stuff you don't wantMar 13 23:02
MinceRalso, medicinesMar 13 23:02
abeNd-orgugh, over the counter druggies lolMar 13 23:02
DaemonFCI just find it amusing that the vegans all claim that they're healthy when they look like they could be blown over by a stiff breezeMar 13 23:03
DaemonFCabeNd-org: Most of the people who refuse medical attention do it for religious reasons. Normally I would encourage this, but they tend to only get this religious when it comes to minors in their custody.Mar 13 23:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 23:04
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: you mean the same type of vegan women who refuse to shaveMar 13 23:04
DaemonFChehMar 13 23:04
DaemonFCthis is why I like being a manMar 13 23:05
DaemonFCdon't have to shave my armpitsMar 13 23:05
DaemonFCor legsMar 13 23:05
DaemonFCor any assorted pubic areasMar 13 23:05
DaemonFCI don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't DIE!Mar 13 23:05
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 23:05
abeNd-orghehMar 13 23:05
abeNd-orgive met one, she would wear fairly short skirts, yet had legs far hairier than most menMar 13 23:07
abeNd-orgnot a big fat lady, but one of those blow over in a slight wind kinda womenMar 13 23:07
DaemonFCdid you shoot her and tell the police that with god as your witness you thought it was bigfoot?Mar 13 23:07
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 23:07
MinceRlolMar 13 23:09
DaemonFCor one of the gelfsMar 13 23:10
DaemonFC(Red Dwarf)Mar 13 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF is at the #aclu #sxsw at Maggie Mae's, partying like it's 1986. Come join us!Mar 13 23:11
DaemonFCMinceR: I may just have to install to BtrFS and see what I can see about itMar 13 23:11
DaemonFCI tried it with Linux 2.6.29 and it was slooooowMar 13 23:11
DaemonFCbut, that was a few years agoMar 13 23:12
MinceRi'll wait until it ships with progsMar 13 23:12
DaemonFCthe functional btrfsck should be in Ubuntu 11.04Mar 13 23:13
*DaemonFC feels dirty when trying to pronounce btrfsckMar 13 23:13
*DaemonFC giggles childishlyMar 13 23:13
DaemonFCwell, you should be ok as long as the filesystem doesn't become inconsistentMar 13 23:14
DaemonFCI mean, there's only about a million reasons why that can happenMar 13 23:15
DaemonFCwhat are the chances? :)Mar 13 23:15
DaemonFCanyone using BtrFS without a working fsck is insaneMar 13 23:15
DaemonFCthey're one file system error away from losing everything on that partitionMar 13 23:15
DaemonFC"Hehe, I yanked my power cord and it ated my home folder, now what?"Mar 13 23:18
DaemonFCnom nom nomMar 13 23:18
MinceR"well, that's what mkfs.btrfs is for"Mar 13 23:19
MinceR"...and your backup"Mar 13 23:19
DaemonFCouchMar 13 23:19
DaemonFCand you make fun of XFSMar 13 23:19
DaemonFCat least it is stable and has fsckMar 13 23:20
DaemonFCall the Microsoft splogs are still congratulating OpenSuseMar 13 23:20
DaemonFChow broken does it have to be before they knock it off?Mar 13 23:21
DaemonFCPackageKit and Yast don't complement each otherMar 13 23:21
DaemonFCthey fight each otherMar 13 23:21
DaemonFCwhat? broken repository management, bugs?Mar 13 23:22
DaemonFChttp://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3048642267.htmlMar 13 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenSUSE 1.4 touted for performance boost, new rolling release option .::. Size~: 40.69 KBMar 13 23:23
DaemonFCOpenSUSE 1.4 with KDE 2.6 desktopMar 13 23:23
DaemonFClolMar 13 23:23
DaemonFCdoes this guy not proof read?Mar 13 23:23
DaemonFCno, 2.6Mar 13 23:25
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 23:25
MinceRDaemonFC: i'm not using btrfsMar 13 23:25
DaemonFCuhhhm, there are many optimizations that you can turn on or off in GCCMar 13 23:26
MinceRDaemonFC: m$ splogs will keep congratulating opensuse as long as *suse stays loyal to the m$ agendaMar 13 23:26
DaemonFCand some that bloat the code size more than they are worthMar 13 23:26
MinceReven if the main carrier of mono is ubuntu nowMar 13 23:26
DaemonFCMinceR: removing banshee will remove ubuntu-desktopMar 13 23:26
DaemonFCare you sure?Mar 13 23:27
DaemonFC:DMar 13 23:27
MinceRyes!Mar 13 23:27
*MinceR gets out the install mediaMar 13 23:27
DaemonFCEnder2070: Has Fedora stated Mesa version for F15 yet?Mar 13 23:28
DaemonFCI hope they're not going to stick to 7.10Mar 13 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Submit Qs to PM Gillard about her betrayal of WikiLeaks; she will be on #qanda tonite 9.35pm ABC1 @ABCQANDA !wlMar 13 23:31
DaemonFCthey have 7.10 right nowMar 13 23:31
DaemonFC7.11-devel has a few things I needMar 13 23:32
DaemonFCand of course it's a little fasterMar 13 23:32
DaemonFCglx extensions.....Mar 13 23:33
DaemonFCthe more the better :)Mar 13 23:33
DaemonFCthe main bonus in going from r600c to g is not really the speed, although that goes up a bitMar 13 23:33
DaemonFCit's the fact that you get like 60 some glx extensionsMar 13 23:34
DaemonFCand all kinds of software stqarts working rightMar 13 23:34
DaemonFC*startsMar 13 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sydney: Public forum on Wikileaks and the right to know, Wed 16, 6:30pm, Sydney Town Hall http://is.gd/av7h2N !wlMar 13 23:36
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DaemonFCATI should be releasing a new FGLRX in a few days, which will probably support Linux 2.6.38 and X Server 1.10Mar 13 23:36
DaemonFCit's nice to have both optionsMar 13 23:36
DaemonFCI'll probably migrate to F15 when it's betaMar 13 23:36
DaemonFCit's really shitty of ATI to only announce what they support when they drop the driver that monthMar 13 23:37
DaemonFCit makes it real hard to know what you're doingMar 13 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Agile Ruined My Life http://is.gd/PXPuFm < Impl. practices as they suit your team. Not for the sake of process! There is no #SilverBulletMar 13 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Access-to-information fee hike to ‘control demand’ because freedom isn't free http://bit.ly/hLo6iY #cdnpoliMar 13 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: Freedom of access to information for those that can afford it. #cdnpoliMar 13 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @AnonMsLy: Fire up the grill guise! We have some bbq'ing to do. Counting down... Follow @OperationLeakS #Anonymous #AnonymissMar 13 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] If I worked for Bank of America senior management, I'd be really nervous right now... #panicinthestreetsMar 13 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Twitter's Policy Changes Don't Add Up http://tighturl.com/303h !Twitter !Identica !StatusNetMar 13 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 btw, je kan altijd contributen aan #irail om een coole de lijn api te maken. Code 70% done. (Output & apps. Input requiredMar 13 23:46
MinceRgnMar 13 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter a more apt title would be "Twitter's stated reasons for their policy changes don't add up" but I felt it was a tad long windedMar 13 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #CliveTyldesley fan club in full effect http://tighturl.com/303i !footballMar 13 23:54
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DaemonFCwhat about openfwwf?Mar 13 23:55
DaemonFChttp://www.ing.unibs.it/~openfwwf/Mar 13 23:56
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010Mar 13 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb it sure can, possibly better than choqok :) as !elmdentica uses EFL's elm_genlistMar 13 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 11:22
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I am sucked into the world of identica todayMar 13 11:22
schestowitzThat's what I'm afraid of myselfMar 13 11:23
sebsebseboh?Mar 13 11:23
schestowitzPromised to do 40 hours of coding this weekMar 13 11:23
sebsebsebit's so addictive once got a good convo goingMar 13 11:23
sebsebsebon thereMar 13 11:23
schestowitzOnce you start denting it comes back at you, same with news/bloggingMar 13 11:24
sebsebsebcoding for what?Mar 13 11:24
sebsebsebcome back at you?  sucks you in?Mar 13 11:24
schestowitz3d face stuffMar 13 11:24
sebsebseb3d face stuff?Mar 13 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb How would you *reply* otherwise? :)Mar 13 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent. !wlMar 13 11:26
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/06/massive-dataset/Mar 13 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: Well today both me and @ruiseabra have been denting quite a bit to the !Elmdentica group, that didn't really need to be sent there.Mar 13 11:32
schestowitzsebsebseb: ok, let's see what was missed in identica...Mar 13 11:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66337056Mar 13 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 07-Mar-11 13:28:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Micro$oft's desperation rolls on: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/promotions/xbox.shtml?INTCMP=HomeBANXboxMar 13 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I have also been denting to !identiverse earlier when I didn't really have a proper reason to.Mar 13 11:41
schestowitzLOL I saw some Vista Phony 7 ads and promotions at O2 shop, but nobody bothers with itMar 13 11:41
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66389500Mar 13 11:41
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Mar-11 01:30:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Know you're tied up, but thanks for your outstanding efforts on #techrights, c.o.l.advocacy trolls keep whining LOL, the lusersMar 13 11:41
schestowitzlook who's talking...http://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 11:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 11:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66451501lMar 13 11:42
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?Mar 13 11:42
Diablo-D3404.Mar 13 11:42
schestowitzIt said: "@schestowitz ppl like @popey are desperate trolls"Mar 13 11:42
schestowitzMust have been deletdMar 13 11:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66565800  http://identi.ca/notice/66579264Mar 13 11:43
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 18:39:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz  You moved in and comfortable yet?Mar 13 11:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Mar-11 21:42:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Physically?Mar 13 11:43
Diablo-D3oopsMar 13 11:43
schestowitzHehMar 13 11:43
Diablo-D3schestowitz: does being a desperate troll pay well? :<Mar 13 11:43
schestowitzoh, the psycho is at it too...http://identi.ca/notice/66628010Mar 13 11:44
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 10:34:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @agentsmith @schestowitz Trolls hot & heavy with libel re #Linux advocacy http://ur1.ca/3g9j1 via #Microsoft Evangelism http://ur1.ca/3g9kqMar 13 11:44
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: maybeMar 13 11:44
*Diablo-D3 should try to get a job at microsoftMar 13 11:45
schestowitzHe didn't like it when I said he was maybe trying to be hired by Canonical... which I emphasised was mere speculationMar 13 11:45
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they don't hireMar 13 11:45
schestowitzUnless you move eastMar 13 11:45
schestowitzNot too far east thoughMar 13 11:45
schestowitzWith the radiation and all...Mar 13 11:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66635492Mar 13 11:46
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Thursday, 10-Mar-11 12:23:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @ghostler @schestowitz Wow, are they still on those old tricks ? How pity.Mar 13 11:46
schestowitzLOL http://identi.ca/notice/66746894 Wayne's response nails itMar 13 11:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 11-Mar-11 17:43:11 UTC - Identi.ca: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 11:48
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MinceRgeekingsMar 13 11:48
schestowitzNow I'm the bad guy for saying humans change climateMar 13 11:48
Diablo-D3schestowitz: hurrMar 13 11:50
Diablo-D3schestowitz: but I live in maineMar 13 11:50
Diablo-D3how more east do you wantMar 13 11:50
schestowitzNice placeMar 13 11:50
schestowitzExcept in winter... scary clod :-)Mar 13 11:51
schestowitz*coldMar 13 11:51
schestowitzClimate change is not about just warning but also extreme weather swingsMar 13 11:51
schestowitzAverage temperature keeps going up very rapidlyMar 13 11:51
oiaohmReally the nasty point is Average temp going up does not mean that some areas cannot go the other way.Mar 13 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb @gbraad is not on !elmdentica. Most dents were in context but not for #choqok :)Mar 13 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb #EFL is !enlightenment foundation libraries.Mar 13 11:56
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org seems to be down...?Mar 13 12:12
schestowitzHmmm...Mar 13 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb I *know*, but they're in context for group !elmdentica.Mar 13 12:14
schestowitzGeez... Brandon really hammers it with this one rant http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/46264925856862208  http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45242394563715072 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45241019347902465 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240994706358273 http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/45240995624914944 why repeat so many times?Mar 13 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #gnu #linux /cc @schestowitzMar 13 12:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open Letter to #Techrights http://disgruntledcanadian.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/open-letter-to-techrights/ #fsf #fedora #gnu #linux #ossMar 13 12:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/hfkrqUMar 13 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb because !elmdentica is not oriented towards desktop usage and I'm no my desktop.Mar 13 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb no, sending attachments isn't supported in !elmdentica yet.Mar 13 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods. I'm tired...Mar 13 12:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights http://wp.me/p1gptc-m4Mar 13 12:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: Open letter to Techrights: Dear Techrights I have been a reader and a contributor of the Techrights  community f... http://bit.ly/fAOyRkMar 13 12:19
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*amarsh04 thinks ender2070 could achieve more by being more constructiveMar 13 12:20
schestowitzHe doesn't realise I'm basically on his sideMar 13 12:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: who?Mar 13 12:21
sebsebsebI am not following the stuff here right nowMar 13 12:21
schestowitzIt's the people whom he's against that laughs it all off when he antagonises my work... just because I'm not expert in ROckefeller?Mar 13 12:21
amarsh04some conversations in #techrights I skip past because none of the participants post constructive commentsMar 13 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb that is exactly the conversation I meantMar 13 12:22
schestowitzLike DaemonFCMar 13 12:23
sebsebseband MinceR and gnufreex at times?Mar 13 12:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/psankar/statuses/45897830329622528Mar 13 12:23
TechrightsBot-tr@psankar: @m4n1sh I am wondering if boycott boy will say since Vuntz sent the mail, novell rejected canonical's patches ;-)Mar 13 12:23
amarsh04it's like complaining of having to configure some things manually and not having sent constructive bug reports and/or patches to the maintainersMar 13 12:24
schestowitzhttp://slated.org/copygate_exposes_ugly_ubuntu "Hmm, Bacon could do with learning some Open Respect? himself."Mar 13 12:25
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schestowitzHmm.. I missed that oneMar 13 12:25
*amarsh04 is amazed how many ALSA and kernel issues were identified and patched following his reports and testingMar 13 12:25
oiaohmamarsh04: I keep on saying to people you don't have to be a programmer.  You just need to know how to submit a well tested bug report.Mar 13 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DHS/ICE continues unconstitutional acts by arresting someone for linking to something else on their website http://ur1.ca/3i1s2Mar 13 12:31
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amarsh04indeed, oiaohmMar 13 12:31
amarsh04having a second pc has helped, but even with a single old pc I could compare results from different package versions and rebuild packages with different patches appliedMar 13 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad: I am not sure why both @ruiseabra and me kept on denting the group when we didn't need to, since the actual convo context exists.Mar 13 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: BounceBounce - simple accelerometer controlled game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7123Mar 13 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: OM Voice Server for N900's Ovi Maps allows for voice guided navigation: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7124Mar 13 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple XBMC Remote for the N900 - HTTP remote control for XBMC: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7125Mar 13 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: SomeCover - album art manager and downloader for N900's SomePlayer: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7126Mar 13 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jkosonen: Next #QML #QtQuick game almost ready, see the alpha version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea49pQg5zXY #Maemo #MeeGo #N900Mar 13 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @gbraad Thanks for the link :).Mar 13 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 best alternative operating systems | News | TechRadar UK http://ping.fm/kPmu2Mar 13 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @sebsebseb we do not really like !UGD ;-)Mar 13 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Missed this !Crunchbang #! 10 Statler | !Linux Distro Review yesterday http://ping.fm/8kNiEMar 13 12:54
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schestowitztessier: it looks like the varnish part stopped functioning like it used to... since about an hour ago. It's similar to an issue from a couple of weeks agoMar 13 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Bagel Brothers http://b1t.it/cLA #4sqMar 13 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] recent events and blogposts have showed me why Zemlin shifted his focus from desktop to devices.Mar 13 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well as the saying goes: All things come to an end. I am stopping denting to !Elmdentica for now! http://identi.ca/conversation/66075864Mar 13 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Director: "#Patent Filings Do not Equal #Innovation," US Needs New Measure - http://bit.ly/dEI0PX is that a glimmer? (v @FOSSpatents)Mar 13 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Weekend Project: Benchmark Your #Browsers on #Linux - http://bit.ly/fScMSA start your #(javascript) engines (v @@vinzv)Mar 13 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @stemp: A !crunchbang 10 !statler Review on [Reddit] http://ur1.ca/3i18fMar 13 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IP Enforcement Permeates ICANN, US Internet Policy - http://bit.ly/gd1vDx "push for ever more far-reaching" criticisedMar 13 13:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Streaming is the #Copyright Industry’s Approaching Train at the End of the Tunnel - http://bit.ly/fpL8PC "Streaming changes what we pay for"Mar 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @sebsebseb Viewing attachmets is supported, posting them, not yet. !elmdenticaMar 13 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Twitter Should Think Twice About Bulldozing the Ecosystem - http://bit.ly/gmpx4h useful summary of issuesMar 13 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] @slated @schestowitz Your exposure in http://ur1.ca/3i2yt i.e. x.org clipboard vicious tirades are rants pushed by c.o.l.advocacy wintrolls.Mar 13 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a s... http://bit.ly/fiQRv8Mar 13 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free and future proof #musicMar 13 14:06
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oiaohmReally arguement for flac is not going to get far.  Its like the arguement for records.Mar 13 14:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh kind of interesting someone on identica who lives near where my Mum's mother lives, but I guess it's a bit strange in a way to message someone because of that, hmm.  So probably not really the best idea, oh well.Mar 13 14:07
oiaohmPeople traded quality for size.Mar 13 14:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: however I could subscribe and dent in the future with better reason or somethingMar 13 14:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: I guess so, yeah...Mar 13 14:11
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schestowitz*LOL* Just got this by E-mailMar 13 14:13
schestowitz> Hi,Mar 13 14:13
schestowitz> Mar 13 14:13
schestowitz> No news in Techrights. Is project dead?Mar 13 14:13
schestowitzI didn't want to announce being away in the site for the same reason people don't announce they leave their home to go on vacation... inviting bad people to take advantage of itMar 13 14:14
nisshhschestowitz, heheMar 13 14:14
oiaohmyou take a week holiday and people think the project is dead.Mar 13 14:15
schestowitzI remember some years ago getting flooded by libellous comment spam against me when that happened... took days to addressMar 13 14:15
oiaohmThat is funny.Mar 13 14:15
oiaohmSome projects I deal with play dead for upto 6 months at a time.Mar 13 14:15
schestowitz"Subject: Is techrights dead"Mar 13 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Ted Ts'o @tytso on @nearyd's post; why kernel devel is diff and desktop devel needs 'a sheepdog' http://is.gd/PZpaVQ /cc: !gnome !kdeMar 13 14:16
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schestowitzbrbMar 13 14:16
schestowitzoiaohm: I caught up with the new siteMar 13 14:16
schestowitzOne thing at a time, I also have a 40-hour research/coding project this weekMar 13 14:17
oiaohmHey you are due to 2 weeks off from techrights if you fell like it.Mar 13 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Mockup: Add / Remove Workspaces In Unity http://bit.ly/hmhiKKMar 13 14:19
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schestowitzI'll resume graduallyMar 13 14:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah your alloweed time  off techrightsMar 13 14:19
schestowitzNo major news anyway, except Japan in general and HP in LinuxsphreMar 13 14:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: Japan isn't really tech news though?Mar 13 14:19
schestowitzBut it's still hugely importantMar 13 14:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: Mageia Alpha 2 this ThursdayMar 13 14:20
sebsebsebuhMar 13 14:20
sebsebsebTuesday I meanMar 13 14:21
schestowitzI'm doing a short review of mint 10 since yesterdatMar 13 14:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: also i'll join the marketting time, even got offered to join by someone on it on like FridayMar 13 14:22
sebsebsebteam aboveMar 13 14:22
sebsebsebgood to do something proper when it comes to Linux, for me I mean :)Mar 13 14:22
schestowitzI had a sort of argument over marketingMar 13 14:22
sebsebsebof what Mageia?Mar 13 14:22
amarsh04I made an online order to a .jp site one hour after the earthquake and experienced no slow-down... a couple of days later they updated their site to apologise for any delays that the earthquake might causeMar 13 14:22
schestowitzBecause I mixed that with PR in generalMar 13 14:22
sebsebsebwhen what?Mar 13 14:23
schestowitzsebsebseb: I'll show you in -socialMar 13 14:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: okMar 13 14:23
schestowitzSo as to not put it in main channelMar 13 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An OpenGL 4.1 Gallium3D State Tracker Was Just Proposed: It's not often that really interesting mailing list mes... http://bit.ly/g1RODFMar 13 14:31
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sebsebsebschestowitz: oiaohm  This looks pretty good actsualley I guess: http://goshu-neko.deviantart.com/art/Alternative-OS-VS-Windows-200545861Mar 13 14:33
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sebsebsebaltough it looks like a Microsoft hate wall paper?Mar 13 14:33
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MinceRsebsebseb: Microsoft® Windows™ Hate?Mar 13 14:36
MinceR(also spelled as "8")Mar 13 14:36
MinceRkind of reminds me of that pic from the virtualbox about boxMar 13 14:37
schestowitzgnufreex: hiMar 13 14:51
schestowitzDid you see mono/android news?Mar 13 14:52
schestowitzSome Microsoft lad it poisoning LinuxMar 13 14:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/koush/status/46299788655869952Mar 13 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr@koush: The signed Honeycomb update from Moto/Google contains libmono.so and libunity.so. @migueldeicaza @unity3dMar 13 14:52
schestowitzgforbes added this to the wikiMar 13 14:52
gnufreexoh crapMar 13 14:52
gnufreexLike Google wants more lawsuitsMar 13 14:52
gnufreexschestowitz: So it comes by default?Mar 13 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://goo.gl/8I8Wp !gnome vs !canonicalMar 13 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Pestalozzischule http://b1t.it/aJP #4sqMar 13 14:54
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gnufreexMicrosoft can now bully Android OEMs into switching to "real deal"Mar 13 14:54
gnufreex.NET and WP7Mar 13 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: How to add PDF files on your iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone: http://bit.ly/dpMoHLMar 13 14:57
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gnufreexhttp://yfrog.com/f/h23i3ctj/Mar 13 14:58
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesMar 13 15:04
schestowitzAnd see the comment in http://techrights.org/2011/03/03/rogue-ipr-games/#commentsMar 13 15:04
schestowitzI pasted in the -social irc channel, tooMar 13 15:04
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schestowitzMore on that Nokia dealMar 13 15:04
schestowitzMicrosoft has a plan: plawsuitsMar 13 15:04
schestowitzgnufreex: buy xbox !!Mar 13 15:07
schestowitz"Love, Microsoft"Mar 13 15:07
gnufreexWhat is most imporant now is Nokia devsMar 13 15:07
gnufreexThose that developed for nokia phonesMar 13 15:08
gnufreexIf they switch to .NET, it will be very badMar 13 15:08
gnufreexThey are being trolled hard right nowMar 13 15:08
gnufreex"Use .NET or you will be homeless bum. All other frameworks are dead"Mar 13 15:08
gnufreexschestowitz: And de Icaza is still pscyched Mar 13 15:09
gnufreexAs in PsychopathMar 13 15:10
MinceRi'd rather use the work of GNU/Linux developers than that of symbian developersMar 13 15:10
gnufreexIt overlaps. Mar 13 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All the other guys are not wrong - http://bit.ly/h9qfgd long & interesting post from Mr #Shuttleworth on the current argy-bargy #gnome #kdeMar 13 15:11
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gnufreexThey will be shilling for .NOTMar 13 15:11
gnufreexif they drink kool aidMar 13 15:11
gnufreexIt is like a cancerMar 13 15:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah there's this news as well, something Thisleweb dented about: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/03/13/0055209/Flickr-Censors-Egypt-Police-Photos?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20Slashdot/slashdot%20%28Slashdot%29Mar 13 15:12
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gnufreex.NET is designed to be a cancer for programming freedomMar 13 15:12
gnufreexA framework to frame everyone in same mindset.Mar 13 15:12
gnufreexThat is why MSFT have jihadists that push their agenda... like De Icaza and such. Mar 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am done organising everything in the house, catching up now, but big project in coming week, research-related...Mar 13 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis !China #CCAV feature report of #Japan earthquake uses the BGM of Inception and Transformer. Too good not to use, again? ...Mar 13 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Still using a dongle to connect until BT engineer comes; expensive bandwidth, so little activity here until wired Internet gets installedMar 13 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @MeeGo_Peregrine: Peregrine renders now with OpenGL - N900 performance is great. Try it. http://tinyurl.com/6x4j7ljMar 13 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google to Launch Major New Social Network Called Circles, Possibly Today - http://rww.to/fwRHBh Dante would have approved #socialnwsMar 13 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police Return Seized Hardware to Victorious BitTorrent Admin, Trashed - http://bit.ly/h9Diqr vindictive or incompetent? probably both...Mar 13 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Set Up Sparkleshare With Your Own Server http://bit.ly/h10g5PMar 13 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) http://bit.ly/hsN6CaMar 13 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☂ Writer’s Block: http://wmk.me/gYgIGkMar 13 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last Week's Top Posts (Week 10, 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.08 KBMar 13 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☂ Writer’s Block « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 49.72 KBMar 13 15:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: also Twitter are saying no to 3rd party Twitter clients, well new ones, that's the other major news at the momentMar 13 15:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: this article for example: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_tells_developers_to_stop_building_twitter.phpMar 13 15:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Tells Developers to Stop Building Twitter Clients .::. Size~: 70.8 KBMar 13 15:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, depressingMar 13 15:42
schestowitzYou put a lot into it, then the company says **** ***Mar 13 15:42
schestowitzIn identica I've almost passed fabsh to be most prolific posterMar 13 15:42
schestowitzSomeone I know said he'd just start posting from identica because of twitter's policyMar 13 15:43
schestowitztwitter will get just the copies, though that "Connect" option in identicaMar 13 15:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/66889211Mar 13 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 15:20:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I gather that BT customer service is an Oxymoron.Mar 13 15:46
schestowitzI've phoned them about 7 times already; and that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over.Mar 13 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Program your wrist watch http://ow.ly/4dt0nMar 13 15:49
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gnufreexschestowitz: Why no articles for a week?Mar 13 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Slinky | !GIMP Plugin Registry http://ping.fm/agpujMar 13 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Só não há crise para os ricos... Sobre a opinião de Pedro Boucherie Mendes http://blog.1407.org/2011/03/13/so-nao-ha-crise-para-os-ricos/Mar 13 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] also, morning @coyoMar 13 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Good news: European Court of Justice rejects stem-cell #patents : Nature News http://ping.fm/vbUA9Mar 13 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @wikileaks: Note: Of all the books, films, etc churned out about WikiLeaks, not one has offered to contribute a single cent.Mar 13 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP @SusanDelacourt I thought (mis/re)-interpreting the distant past was now part of Canadian politics?Mar 13 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @TonyClement_MP Are you "just visiting" "The Harper Government"? *evil grins* @SusanDelacourtMar 13 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @SusanDelacourt: Harper's Conservatives increasingly dependent on Mike Harris's gang: http://bit.ly/edsKnO #cdnpoliMar 13 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it right nowMar 13 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A New CPU, Power Monitoring Utility: Thomas Renninger of SuSE has announced cpupowerutils, a new free software p... http://bit.ly/hRwjGtMar 13 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Why You Should Buy (and Sell) Music in #FLAC - http://bit.ly/hAivFF not least because it's patent free & future proof #musicMar 13 16:07
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sebsebsebI don't really care, but by the wayMar 13 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to @rrw !Google may be launching a new Social Network called #Circles but I can't reach the page to link it nowMar 13 16:12
sebsebsebhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_to_launch_major_new_social_network_called_c.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+readwriteweb+%28ReadWriteWeb%29&utm_content=Google+ReaderMar 13 16:12
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sebsebsebsomething I got onto earlier from identicaMar 13 16:12
sebsebseboh and a dent just came in about it from silner hmmMar 13 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Easier now to be a Fedora maintainer - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2011-February/000757.html #fbMar 13 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google Circles, new Social Network, at Readwriteweb http://ow.ly/4dtHz Thanks to @ferguskelly for link http://goo.gl/5hiThMar 13 16:17
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Diablo-D3 Via @@swadeshine: RD @diablod3 Turn any page into #Katamari Damashii http://kathack.com/ (@ONoesUDidnt)Mar 13 16:18
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Diablo-D3lolMar 13 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Crap! The suspention on my car just broke.Mar 13 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] always keep in mind the people doing this continually style themselves as "the good guys" http://tighturl.com/302k #MPAA #RIAA #FACT #P2PMar 13 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Help Japan poster http://ur1.ca/3i55gMar 13 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 60k damages awarded against blogger who reported truth http://ur1.ca/3i55oMar 13 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why am I reminded of the Musicians Guild? Thugs in suits arrive to LEGALLY intimidate you & trash your gear if you don't pay them #DiscworldMar 13 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] What De Icaza complains about in that people can change or break their desktops is called freedom, and clearly he does not understand itMar 13 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb: Thanks anyway :)Mar 13 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Largest #Wisconsin protests ever: 85,000+ people in Madison's streets http://ur1.ca/3i57tMar 13 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Shuttleworth: All the other guys are not wrong http://ping.fm/MvzKNMar 13 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Israel seem to have a natural talent for pouring oil on the fire, then playing the victim http://tighturl.com/302m #Occupation #IllegalMar 13 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Chrome 10 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/chrome-10-released/Mar 13 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome 10 Released http://ow.ly/4dun3Mar 13 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: $60k fine for blogger who reported truth - http://bit.ly/gH4uhg hmm, problematic, I think... #blogsMar 13 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@ruiseabra@bugabundo nada como a arrogância de quem só teve trabalhos d chefia http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pedro-boucherie-mendes/7/702/27aMar 13 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pedro Boucherie Mendes  | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 37.98 KBMar 13 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, 90 minutes from inside the apartment to back inside when going to the airport to pick up surplus baggage. Gotta love our location.Mar 13 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Haight-Ashbury today.Mar 13 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Incisive, hilarious, harsh, spot-on all at once. The Ghetto Called #Facebook http://ur1.ca/3i5paMar 13 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Moving heaven and earth to find a 22nF capacitor.Mar 13 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Bdale Garbee Joins FreedomBox Foundation Board http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/bdale-garbee-joins-freedombox-foundation/Mar 13 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pinguy Info about Pingguy 11.04 Alpha and how to get involved. http://bit.ly/hDr9mo !Ubuntu !linuxMar 13 17:17
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Mikey_hey royMar 13 17:19
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Mikey_where did you go?Mar 13 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "E Pluribus Unum" becomes controversial: #Religious Right seeks to banish inclusive motto http://ur1.ca/3i5yb #wtfMar 13 17:26
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Mikey_hey royMar 13 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh it's Daylight Saving Time, !heybuddy has date/time issues; I should switch things to "relative" timeMar 13 17:36
DaemonFCI'm throwing just about every performance trick I can think of at this laptop, I don't know why nobarrier didn't come to mind soonerMar 13 17:36
DaemonFCit has battery backup :)Mar 13 17:36
DaemonFCbarriers never used to be the default on Ext3 and Ext4 anyway, so in a way they were less safe than XFS in the event of an unclean shutdownMar 13 17:38
DaemonFCit was only after people noticed the effect of persistent preallocation and delayed allocation on an unclean shutdown with Ext4 nobarrier that they started bitching, and this got changedMar 13 17:39
DaemonFCthat's why you see Ext4 dancing circles around XFS in Linux <2.6.31 but all of a sudden, read/write performance goes down by around 30%Mar 13 17:40
DaemonFCMinceR had commented on XFS eating your data, but XFS has defaulted to barrier since Linux 2.6.17Mar 13 17:41
DaemonFCit never had to when it was on IRIX because it wasn't running on crappy PC hardware that wasn't backed up by a batteryMar 13 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @Debichan: #Manning is in all our hearts and minds, THAT'S the right place. #iambradleymanning !WikiLeaksMar 13 17:42
DaemonFCeven if you were running one of those SGI machines without battery backup, the filesystem would detect the power outage and immedietly sync the filesystemMar 13 17:42
DaemonFCLinux has never profived the ability to do this on any architecture :)Mar 13 17:43
DaemonFC*providedMar 13 17:43
DaemonFCthere's a lot of FUD going around about XFS that is actually the fault of GNU GRUB, Linux, or old versions of LinuxMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCFUD never seems to dieMar 13 17:44
DaemonFCXFS is at least as safe as Ext4, if not better, when running on GRUB 2, because GRUB was doing a lot of really nasty perverse things to a file system that Ext2/3 mostly happened to tolerate B-)Mar 13 17:45
schestowitzHey, Mikey_Mar 13 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the prospect of a semi against !ManUtd don't motivate !ManCity to win today, they should hang their heads in shameMar 13 17:46
Mikey_hey Roy, what a night!Mar 13 17:46
schestowitzYes, I got home aftr 4Mar 13 17:46
Mikey_later than planned but what the hellMar 13 17:46
schestowitzTried too many shortcuts in vainMar 13 17:46
schestowitzEnded up walking for like 2 hours, I thinkMar 13 17:47
Mikey_did you walkMar 13 17:47
DaemonFCon some workloads, I notice that it's better to use Ext3 mounted without barriers than it is to use Ext4Mar 13 17:47
Mikey_wowMar 13 17:47
Mikey_2 hours?Mar 13 17:47
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 17:47
schestowitzMikey_: and had to wake up by 9Mar 13 17:47
Mikey_did you feel roughMar 13 17:47
schestowitzDid Andy get back OK?Mar 13 17:47
Mikey_yes he didMar 13 17:47
schestowitzMikey_: no, it was OKMar 13 17:47
Mikey_did you leave earlyMar 13 17:47
schestowitzIt was OK walking, too. If I disliked it, I'd stick to the paths I know wellMar 13 17:48
Mikey_i woke at 10.30amMar 13 17:48
Mikey_glad you got back okMar 13 17:49
schestowitzWhat's happening today?Mar 13 17:49
Mikey_how did you walk for 2 hoursMar 13 17:49
schestowitzWhen is Midland closing in weekends?Mar 13 17:49
Mikey_i am just relaxing nowMar 13 17:49
schestowitzMikey_: circlesMar 13 17:49
Mikey_on PCMar 13 17:49
schestowitzBTWMar 13 17:49
schestowitzI asked some guys here about monitorsMar 13 17:49
Mikey_oh yeahMar 13 17:50
schestowitzThe CRT is getting long in the toothMar 13 17:50
schestowitzAnd the Dell woofer won't connectMar 13 17:50
schestowitzI have too much hardware around that's not operationalMar 13 17:50
schestowitzI threw out 2 CRTs before movingMar 13 17:51
schestowitzOne was an IBM, worked OKMar 13 17:51
DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed something amusing today with FGLRX and SELinux, turns out that if you don't allow its libGL.so to map memory locations as readable and writable, it fails to load Mar 13 17:51
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 17:51
schestowitzI should have kept itMar 13 17:51
DaemonFCof course this won't affect Mes'a libGL.so at allMar 13 17:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: tried Mint yet?Mar 13 17:51
DaemonFC*Mesa'sMar 13 17:51
schestowitzMint 10...Mar 13 17:51
Mikey_yes you could do with a new one ARIA have a warehouse near me and a website you could take a look i buy lots of kit from them http://www.aria.co.uk/Mar 13 17:51
schestowitzFantastic distroMar 13 17:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aria PC - Computer Hardware, Components, Monitors.. at lowest prices .::. Size~: 57.91 KBMar 13 17:51
DaemonFCMint Search Hijacker lolMar 13 17:51
DaemonFCI complained to Opera about that btwMar 13 17:52
schestowitzI could keep the CRT as backup option, in case any of the other monitors goes kaputMar 13 17:52
DaemonFCOpera 11.10 will protect its search provider listings from Linux MintMar 13 17:52
DaemonFCit won't blindly import Firefox's search providers anymoreMar 13 17:52
DaemonFCit only trusts its own plus what the user adds or removesMar 13 17:52
schestowitzMikey_: I'm about to post http://schestowitz.com/cMar 13 17:53
schestowitzWhat do you think of it?Mar 13 17:53
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Mikey_how is the penthouse suite today ROy, Andy says its great:)Mar 13 17:53
DaemonFCI had a discussion with some of Opera's developers over the Linux Mint situationMar 13 17:53
DaemonFCand that was the conclusion they came toMar 13 17:53
schestowitzMikey_: a couch+computer 'with stuff around it' :-)Mar 13 17:53
DaemonFCnamely that Mint shouldn't hijack the search bar in software that they don't provideMar 13 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] motivation: beat Utd in the semi, denying Utd a place in the final / silverware while being 90mins away from that silverware yourselfMar 13 17:54
Mikey_"award-winning Dr. Roy Schestowitz".......like it:)Mar 13 17:54
schestowitzUnderutilised place.Mar 13 17:55
schestowitzHang on, colleague on lineMar 13 17:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: I understand why they have Google CSE, but at the same time I disapprove of their interference with the user trying to disable itMar 13 17:55
DaemonFCthe real Google Search is much more usefulMar 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] Shame on #Obama for firing @PJCrowley, the one sane voice in the White House regarding #Manning and !WikiLeaks!Mar 13 17:56
DaemonFCif you want to get dicky, their costs to maintain Mint are minimal, they mostly just point to Ubuntu repositories, so they even hit Ubuntu with their bandwidth bill for the most partMar 13 17:56
DaemonFCI think it's sort of petty to insist the user must use broken Google search so they can get click penniesMar 13 17:56
DaemonFCthe coul provide an easy way to turn that off and still cover their expenses and turn a profitMar 13 17:57
schestowitzThey're sending me softphone on MondayMar 13 17:57
DaemonFCschestowitz: Aside from that (big) complaint, I think Mint is lovelyMar 13 17:57
DaemonFCtheir theme and customizations to GNOME make it usable and attractiveMar 13 17:58
Mikey_what time did you leaveMar 13 17:58
DaemonFCmy other problem is that they're running a month behind Ubuntu, and two months if you happen to use X86-64, which they unfortunately name x64 (Microsoftism)Mar 13 17:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, it's lovelyMar 13 18:00
schestowitzMikey_: you should try MintMar 13 18:00
schestowitzI'll set you up with dual bootMar 13 18:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mikey_ is like you... he had VISTAMar 13 18:00
schestowitzI think he still doesMar 13 18:00
schestowitzHe hates itMar 13 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Olav Vitters about !GNOME external dependencies http://goo.gl/FHHcNMar 13 18:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I still use 10.04 LTSMar 13 18:01
schestowitzDelays are not a PITAMar 13 18:01
DaemonFCwell, PPAs take away some of the painMar 13 18:01
schestowitzPPAs give latest versions tooMar 13 18:01
schestowitzYeahMar 13 18:01
DaemonFCyepMar 13 18:01
schestowitzBeat me to itMar 13 18:01
DaemonFCLinux 2.6.32 isn't really a bad place to beMar 13 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Colin Waters on the !GNOME vs !Canonical case: In fact, anyone can do it http://goo.gl/Pypi7Mar 13 18:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In fact, anyone can do it « Colin Walters .::. Size~: 23.81 KBMar 13 18:02
DaemonFCit's a lontg term stable with a lot of enterprise distros backporting fixes toMar 13 18:02
DaemonFCit shouldn't do anything wickedMar 13 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, starting to teach @coyo some C @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekk. If you want to pick up a bit, or if you actually [cont]Mar 13 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk know C and would like to make sure that I'm teaching it right(seriously, I'd love that), come on inMar 13 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] of course to beat Utd in the semi, ya have to get tot he semi. The City players know Utd are waiting for them, it SHOULD drive themMar 13 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@themadhatter I've phoned them about 7 times already; & that's *before* signing anything or having an engineer come over. #btcares like #bpMar 13 18:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/46432005738606593Mar 13 18:08
TechrightsBot-tr@yuhong2: @schestowitz Tech Report has a poll on which one is most evil: http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20556Mar 13 18:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_clarkdale_q111&num=2Mar 13 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Graphics Get A Boost With Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11 .::. Size~: 18.12 KBMar 13 18:17
DaemonFC11 fps on Nexuiz!Mar 13 18:17
DaemonFClmaoMar 13 18:17
DaemonFCeven the reverse engineered nvidia drivers do better than this alreadyMar 13 18:17
DaemonFCtranslation: you still can't run Nexuiz on Intel GMA, even if the driver is 5 times faster than it is nowMar 13 18:20
DaemonFCit would have to be 15 times faster just to achieve the 30 fps required of a first person shooterMar 13 18:20
DaemonFCand 30 times faster to match the monitor refresh rateMar 13 18:20
MinceRor you could use a lower resolution and lower quality settingsMar 13 18:21
DaemonFCmeh, there's less room for growth with the Intel driver seeing as how the hardware isn't capable of that much anywayMar 13 18:21
DaemonFCeven the proprietary driver on Windows isn't a whole lot betterMar 13 18:22
DaemonFCthe hardware is the limiting factorMar 13 18:22
DaemonFCI remember when Crapple downgraded all their Mac Minis to Intel GMA from a dedicated low-end Radeon and promoted it as a featureMar 13 18:22
DaemonFCeven though the performance was worseMar 13 18:22
DaemonFCthey also took the liberty of jacking the price up $100 even though they just saved a bundle on the cost to manufactureMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCbut it's Crapple, isn't it? :)Mar 13 18:23
MinceRi remember when crApple said "we don't ship integrated GPUs because they suck" only to later start shipping integrated GPUsMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCyesMar 13 18:23
DaemonFCthe PowerPC G4 Mini with the Radeon 9800 will run rings around the Intel Mac Mini that replaced itMar 13 18:24
DaemonFCApple managed to rid some benchmarks, selective ones, ones that mean nothing and can't be reliably repeatedMar 13 18:24
DaemonFC*rigMar 13 18:24
DaemonFCshowing that Intel was fasterMar 13 18:24
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_Goblinschestowitz: hi royMar 13 18:25
DaemonFCThe Radeon 9800 is old, but it has hardware support for a lot of features that the Intel GMA still doesn't, and dedicated memoryMar 13 18:25
schestowitzHey, buddyMar 13 18:25
_GoblinAre we able to record tonight?Mar 13 18:25
schestowitzI'm on o2 dongle ATMMar 13 18:25
_Goblinah...Mar 13 18:26
schestowitzBTW, it works ok in LinuxMar 13 18:26
DaemonFCthe only time I see Intel doing better is if the textures go over 128 MB (Radeon 9800 memory size) and there's more RAM for Intel to steal from the systemMar 13 18:26
_Goblinany idea when you will be up properly?Mar 13 18:26
schestowitzYou had me thinking you needed XP on the laptop for itMar 13 18:26
schestowitz_Goblin: next week unless BT are lyingMar 13 18:26
schestowitzAnd I screwed upMar 13 18:26
_Goblin>Mar 13 18:26
schestowitzCause O2 broadband is FAR cheaperMar 13 18:26
_Goblin?Mar 13 18:26
_Goblinah....Mar 13 18:26
_Goblinlast time I tried the 02 dongle (2008) I would not play with LinuxMar 13 18:27
_GoblinI tethered after that.Mar 13 18:27
DaemonFCbut that's questionable since 1. Intel's driver won't use more than 128 megs unless you have at least 1 gig, and 2. Most Intel minis until recently shipped with 512 MB as the base configurationMar 13 18:27
_Goblinor maybe it was 2009Mar 13 18:27
DaemonFCand oh yeah, 3. Have fun prying open your Mac with a paint scraper to get more RAM into itMar 13 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism: http://bit.ly/ebybpL #anonymous #politics #internetMar 13 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous And The Changing Nature Of Radicalism | Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter .::. Size~: 24.27 KBMar 13 18:27
_Goblinwell roy if you have no objections.....Mar 13 18:27
_GoblinI'll run a show solo...Mar 13 18:27
DaemonFCnow that Crapple uses those 5 point screws, a can opener is probably in orderMar 13 18:28
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 18:28
DaemonFCUpgradin' zu RAM? Zats a niche niche!Mar 13 18:28
MinceRnah, use some C4Mar 13 18:29
DaemonFCBring it into our Crapple store and provided you're a non smoker, we'll work on it for triple the going rateMar 13 18:29
MinceRor drop it from a tall buildingMar 13 18:29
schestowitz_Goblin: sure!Mar 13 18:29
_Goblin:)Mar 13 18:29
schestowitzI can record too, thoughMar 13 18:29
schestowitzUnless connection gets wonkyMar 13 18:29
_Goblinits up to you......Mar 13 18:30
schestowitzWhat time?Mar 13 18:30
_Goblinup to you.Mar 13 18:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Attach C4 to Crapple blast resistent 5 point case screw. If your local hardware store or Walmart is out, steal some from your nearest National Guard ArmoryMar 13 18:30
DaemonFCB-)\Mar 13 18:30
MinceRdoesn't matter if the screw is blast resistant :>Mar 13 18:31
_GoblinIve got two days off and Ive done my wifes chores for the dayMar 13 18:31
schestowitzLet's record in half an hour?Mar 13 18:31
_Goblinok....Mar 13 18:31
_GoblinnpMar 13 18:31
schestowitzYou can tell *me* what the news isMar 13 18:31
schestowitzCause I've been off the grid for a whileMar 13 18:31
_GoblinMichelle is standing over me growling at that btwMar 13 18:32
DaemonFCWhat kind of sick twisted individual can defend a company that goes to these lengths to make sure you can't mod the hardware that you own?Mar 13 18:32
schestowitzI didn't know about Japan even, till Mikey_ told me at the gymMar 13 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @dissolvethecrtc: The truth about UBB - From a former Bell Support Agent. http://bit.ly/eLuNPjMar 13 18:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: SCOnyMar 13 18:32
DaemonFCthe guide to removing the nonstandard screw says you'll probably strip it, then later on says to put it back inMar 13 18:32
schestowitzand TIMar 13 18:33
DaemonFCnot find a standard screw of the same sizeMar 13 18:33
DaemonFCI lol'dMar 13 18:33
_Goblinschestowitz: I;ll just go and have my mandatory smoke and get coffee ready, be back in 1/2 hourMar 13 18:33
schestowitzFor their calculators at leastMar 13 18:33
schestowitzniceMar 13 18:33
DaemonFChttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=0a6f09a76a416b8672e149c520aa5bef33174223Mar 13 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 17.33 KBMar 13 18:34
DaemonFCnow this is niceMar 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods, imagine how retailers would exploit that, walking through a shopping mall would be a cacophony of people's phones assaulted non-stopMar 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter it'd BING her phone too, the interesting part is is she's the one who responds instead of youMar 13 18:34
DaemonFCthese little papercut bug fixes that make one or two operations a little fasterMar 13 18:34
DaemonFCenough of those gets you an optimized driver B-)Mar 13 18:34
DaemonFCso much focus gets placed on the major commits that few people even bother going over the existing code to see if it could be made betterMar 13 18:35
DaemonFCthat's the problem with these open source drivers, eventually nobody even bothers looking at old code until the compiler won't build it Mar 13 18:37
DaemonFCalthough that's mostly the case right now with RV100-400 series RadeonsMar 13 18:38
DaemonFCthere's a hell of a regression in Mesa 7.11 affecting my 480Mar 13 18:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66898975Mar 13 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:25:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I assume a shows off today?Mar 13 18:40
schestowitzIt's onMar 13 18:40
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899151Mar 13 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:27:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And now you know why BT wants to have a monopoly - so that they don't HAVE to improve service...Mar 13 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 for a Whole Day http://ur1.ca/3i6y9 #gnu #freedomMar 13 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 for a Whole Day | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.12 KBMar 13 18:41
schestowitzI don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I don't think it can get any worse; but all the broadband providers have to go through BT (which prioritises own customers)Mar 13 18:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Clementine project makes a lot of changes, but not many releasesMar 13 18:44
*DaemonFC is tired of cloning from SVNMar 13 18:44
DaemonFC:PMar 13 18:44
DaemonFCwhy can't every project release like Chrome?Mar 13 18:45
DaemonFCwe'd be on Clementine 47 by nowMar 13 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contracting for Scientific Betterment http://ur1.ca/3i739 #science #freedom #matlab #octave #linux #migration #lockinMar 13 18:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Contracting for Scientific Betterment .::. Size~: 34.1 KBMar 13 18:49
sebsebsebCan a average person install Meego onto their netbook?Mar 13 18:52
sebsebsebWhat are good netbook OS's, I don't really know much about them and Jolicloud is the only one that comes to mind really.Mar 13 18:52
sebsebseband Ubuntu is ok on a netbook those versions, but that's going bye bye for Unity so hmm.Mar 13 18:52
sebsebseb_Goblin you know about this stuff I think? ^Mar 13 18:53
sebsebsebHi by the way, how are you?Mar 13 18:53
MinceRi think any good desktop gnu/linux distro is fineMar 13 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity must resign, the cowards stayMar 13 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley Manning remarks | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.61 KBMar 13 18:56
MinceRand the "netbook" uis are overratedMar 13 18:56
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66899966 https://identi.ca/notice/66899995Mar 13 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:42:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Lock in. No wonder BT doesn't care.Mar 13 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:43:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Since you've got nothing else to do :) did you start reading my book?Mar 13 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @bccla: Some US airport naked scanners putting out ten times more radiation than originally claimed: http://t.co/bt3Pa8MMar 13 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedomMar 13 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: PJ Crowley resigns over #Manning remarks - http://bit.ly/ePreSO typical: the person with integrity resigns, cowards stayMar 13 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I read when you like to itMar 13 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter I mean linkMar 13 18:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA to retest airport body scanners for radiation - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 51.96 KBMar 13 18:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.27 KBMar 13 18:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ Crowley resigns over Bradley Manning remarks | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.53 KBMar 13 18:57
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive really only spent time with Peppermint ICE on my netbookMar 13 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @schestowitz ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD http://ur1.ca/3i76u Por @GlynMoody #fud #freedom >>¡excelente!Mar 13 18:59
_Goblinsebsebseb: I only use the netbook when Im wanting to watch tv in the front room and surf at the same time.Mar 13 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Más Diversión con Anti-Open Source FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.27 KBMar 13 18:59
sebsebseb_Goblin: ah yes PepermintMar 13 19:00
sebsebsebis it good?Mar 13 19:00
sebsebsebby the way starting with 11.04 their won't be the seperate netbook edition anymore. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/the-end-of-ubuntu-netbook-edition-the-return-of-ubuntu/Mar 13 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The end of Ubuntu Netbook edition .::. Size~: 103.82 KBMar 13 19:00
_Goblinsebsebseb: I think its fantasticMar 13 19:00
sebsebseb_Goblin: I am replying to a woman on identica, but well loads of the Ubuntu fan boys and such already have as well hmmMar 13 19:00
sebsebseband yeahMar 13 19:00
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive never needed to consider another distro for the netbookMar 13 19:01
DaemonFChttp://www.foresightlinux.org/Mar 13 19:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Foresight Linux - Because Your Distro Shoud be Cool! .::. Size~: 9.7 KBMar 13 19:01
DaemonFCthere's always that B-)Mar 13 19:01
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im told #!cbl is very good too.Mar 13 19:01
sebsebseb_Goblin: maybe tell her that, of course I could mention pepermint as well though, already mentioned jolicloud to herMar 13 19:01
sebsebsebwhat's cbl ?Mar 13 19:02
_Goblincrunch bang linuxMar 13 19:02
sebsebsebah yes thatMar 13 19:02
_GoblinI think the best bet is peppermint....its a very "out of the box" distroMar 13 19:02
DaemonFCForesight Linux - Because your distro shouldn't have any packages!Mar 13 19:02
sebsebsebok I think you should say that to her, I can set it up so you can dent though :DMar 13 19:02
DaemonFClast time I tried it, there was no XChatMar 13 19:02
DaemonFConly XChat-GNOMEMar 13 19:03
_Goblintrue...but you can get it from the repo'sMar 13 19:03
_Goblinor for the "l33t" theres always IRSSIMar 13 19:03
DaemonFCno, I searched their package repo and there was no xchatMar 13 19:03
_Goblin;)Mar 13 19:03
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:03
_Goblinare you sure?Mar 13 19:03
sebsebseb_Goblin: uh which name do you use now on there?  only openbytes or?Mar 13 19:03
_Goblinsebsebseb: on identi.ca Im openbytes on Twitter im _GoblinMar 13 19:04
sebsebsebhmmMar 13 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be quicker to name those NOT breaking the law #NoW #PhoneHacking http://tighturl.com/302x now 6 named #OneRogueReporter #BullshitMar 13 19:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phone hacking: Panorama to name sixth journalist in News of the World scandal | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.57 KBMar 13 19:04
sebsebsebI think you subscribed to me as _goblin before or somethingMar 13 19:04
MinceRDaemonFC: conary -- because package managers that don't commit suicide are boring!Mar 13 19:04
DaemonFCthere's always OpenSuse where PackageKit and Yast throw poo at each otherMar 13 19:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway just checked, I am subscribed to openbytes :)Mar 13 19:05
_Goblinsebsebseb: that would be on Twitter.....I chose to use Openbytes for Identi.caMar 13 19:05
DaemonFCevery time you do something in one, it breaks the otherMar 13 19:05
sebsebseb_Goblin: right well your about to get a dent to her and you, on there,  that you can  then reply to about distro's :)Mar 13 19:05
_Goblinschestowitz: Do you want to give it a go?Mar 13 19:05
schestowitzJust a momentMar 13 19:06
schestowitzFinishing a postMar 13 19:06
DaemonFCthe guy who started Foresight is working at Canonical now, I found a picture of him and posted it on UncyclopediaMar 13 19:06
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UbuntuMar 13 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 56.25 KBMar 13 19:07
DaemonFChttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu#Marketing_and_CommunityMar 13 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 56.25 KBMar 13 19:07
DaemonFCto the rightMar 13 19:07
DaemonFCmneptok, the paid Ubuntu gigolo of the Dread Cthulhu Shuttleworth, says, "My hair is luxurious. Touch it.".Mar 13 19:07
_Goblinschestowitz: npMar 13 19:07
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 19:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC: uh what was that?Mar 13 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #BBC political party in full swing, out to defend it's gravy train, did they contract #Deloitte for this study? http://tighturl.com/302yMar 13 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC delivers £2 to economy for every pound of licence fee, says Deloitte report | Media | The Observer .::. Size~: 155.35 KBMar 13 19:07
DaemonFCI rewrote the Ubuntu article a few years agoMar 13 19:07
DaemonFCa lot of that is meMar 13 19:07
sebsebsebalso mneptok now that's someone I didn't get on properly with before here and thereMar 13 19:08
DaemonFC"Replacing everything written in C and Python with Mono"Mar 13 19:09
DaemonFC:DMar 13 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] alright, @coyo is starting scheme @ http://piratepad.net/coyoandtekkMar 13 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PiratePad: coyoandtekk .::. Size~: 69.94 KBMar 13 19:09
DaemonFCThe conference call of the Cthulu (another one of mine)Mar 13 19:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok look at identica :)Mar 13 19:11
DaemonFCspeaking of LOLCODE, someone ported it to .NET a while backMar 13 19:11
_GoblinokMar 13 19:11
sebsebseb_Goblin: and reply, thanks :)Mar 13 19:11
sebsebsebgive the context a quick look as well Mar 13 19:11
sebsebsebof the convoMar 13 19:11
sebsebsebI guessMar 13 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Six million #DNA profiles, 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Developers at #PAXEast: Intel's appup developer program wants YOU, come get an awesome shirt http://t.co/JO1XG1bMar 13 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [calm, almost too calm] uk/six_million_dna_profiles.html .::. Size~: 7.48 KBMar 13 19:12
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DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/Gy2LiNc1Mar 13 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ryan - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 14.28 KBMar 13 19:12
DaemonFCheheMar 13 19:12
_Goblinsebsebseb: done!Mar 13 19:12
DaemonFCnomnom=killallMar 13 19:13
DaemonFC:DMar 13 19:13
schestowitzOK, ready...Mar 13 19:13
_Goblincool me tooMar 13 19:13
schestowitzjust hutting down some stuffMar 13 19:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/66900679Mar 13 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Sunday, 13-Mar-11 18:59:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ah, link. Here it is: http://weblit.ca/?q=node/15 #amwritingMar 13 19:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Book of Honor - Book 1 - Urbema | weblit.ca .::. Size~: 11.67 KBMar 13 19:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: going to recomend crunchbang as well or not?Mar 13 19:14
_Goblinsebsebseb: no.....Ive not personally used it on a NetbookMar 13 19:15
DaemonFChttps://github.com/karthick18/inception/blob/master/inception.cMar 13 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: inception.c at master from karthick18/inception - GitHub .::. Size~: 547.47 KBMar 13 19:15
sebsebseb_Goblin: ohMar 13 19:16
sebsebsebI haven't for jolicloud since I don't have a netbook, but apparently it's very good.Mar 13 19:16
_GoblinI hated it.Mar 13 19:16
_Goblintoo mobile phoney for me.Mar 13 19:16
_GoblinI want my netbook to vaguely resemble my desktop and not have some large icon "userfriendly" UI intruding on it......Mar 13 19:17
_Goblinit also felt.........shielded....for want of a better word.Mar 13 19:17
DaemonFCI think it's amusing that PC makers always choose the shittiest distros that nobody has ever heard of and then complain when customers return them and get something with WindowsMar 13 19:17
DaemonFCif I got SLED or Foresight as my first Linux distro, I may do the same thingMar 13 19:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok sounds like Canonical's Ubuntu Unity probably isn't quite for you then eitherMar 13 19:18
*MinceR is now known as LifeMaskIsARetarMar 13 19:18
_GoblinI'll reserve judgement until Ive had a chance with it.Mar 13 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Not-so-dumb joke: What word beginning w/ the letter 'A' is a person who doesn't believe in #god? Adult. twitter.com/bluharmonyMar 13 19:19
DaemonFCUnity, the alternative shell for GNOME, available in GTK+ with Compiz or QT without CompizMar 13 19:19
DaemonFCit's very unifiedMar 13 19:19
_Goblinschestowitz: any joy with your dongle and Skype?Mar 13 19:21
cubezzz_Goblin, just bought an amiga 500Mar 13 19:22
cubezzztoo good a deal to pass upMar 13 19:22
_Goblincubezzz: good work!Mar 13 19:22
cubezzzyeah I'll be able to finish some old projects finally :-0Mar 13 19:23
_GoblinI keep saying that myself.....never get around to doing it....Mar 13 19:23
cubezzzat least I'll have _one_ non x86 computerMar 13 19:23
_GoblinIve had some code which Ive been working on for about 4 years.....its only a simple rasterbar effect.....one day I'll finish it.Mar 13 19:24
cubezzzwell I have the zaurus, so I should say non x86 and non intel Mar 13 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @klang67 First UK twitter libel http://bbc.in/gu5cRp >>had to happen #twitter #libelMar 13 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Twitter libel: Caerphilly councillor pays rival £3,000 .::. Size~: 61.75 KBMar 13 19:24
cubezzzyou still own a classic amiga?Mar 13 19:24
_GoblinyepMar 13 19:24
_Goblinand a 1200Mar 13 19:24
cubezzzah niceMar 13 19:24
cubezzzI'll probably get the 1200 as wellMar 13 19:24
_GoblinI use UAE mainly though for my coding since I want to preserve my babies!Mar 13 19:25
cubezzzhmm, yes that is a concernMar 13 19:25
_Goblinthe issue is the diskdrive....Mar 13 19:25
_Goblinthat goes (as you know) its difficult to replaceMar 13 19:25
cubezzzI heard some folks have a way to fit a standard 3.5" drive on an amigaMar 13 19:26
cubezzzevidently it's similar enoughMar 13 19:26
_Goblinhow have they got around the controller?Mar 13 19:26
cubezzznot sure to be honestMar 13 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] URL Hunter! - http://bit.ly/gwwBGj "An experimental game using the URL bar as the game screen." now *that's* clever...Mar 13 19:27
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cubezzzchecking now...Mar 13 19:27
cubezzz_Goblin, there is the catweasel...Mar 13 19:28
_Goblinoh yes....I forgot.Mar 13 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What media player for !Fedora can handle multiple audio books and remember where I came to ?Mar 13 19:29
cubezzzand on some pc floppy drives they are really close to amiga driveMar 13 19:29
cubezzzjust a jumper change, so pretty easyMar 13 19:29
cubezzzyou just have to know your drive model #'s I guessMar 13 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Funniest/Most Insightful Comments Of The Week At #Techdirt - http://bit.ly/eR144L meta-posts - and surprisingly fineMar 13 19:31
cubezzzChinon I believe is the best for amigaMar 13 19:31
cubezzzso one could in theory find a bunch of chinon drives and have the amiga work for a long timeMar 13 19:31
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cubezzzChinon FZ-354 and FZ-357Mar 13 19:32
cubezzzTeac and Panasonic/Matsushita are also reported to workMar 13 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from !BUSC proof read (just went there to introduce myself as part of the board). Now watching Die Hard 4.0. Yippiekay-yay!Mar 13 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Creedence, baby!!!!Mar 13 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Methinks Die Hard 4.0 is a movie for @jwildeboer. All the currency stuff...Mar 13 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is thistleweb with 153 dents!Mar 13 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I don't think that's my thing, asshole." LOL. John McLane rocks! :DMar 13 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mossgarden: lol there is a donald duck party in sweden :PMar 13 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Apple Claims "App Store" is a Noun for Their Service http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/apple-claims-app-store-noun/Mar 13 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Monster sponsors a Formula 1 team now?Mar 13 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If this keeps going on, @th3k4ty can build an obsidian palace! :DMar 13 20:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: I fixed that popunder annoyance crap in ChromeMar 13 20:18
DaemonFCnow that AdblockPlus id blocking anything you have a rule fore, I loaded Fanboy's list + the annoyances and tracking add-onsMar 13 20:18
DaemonFCthen I used the hidden click to run plugin feature of ChromeMar 13 20:18
DaemonFCI haven't seen too many popups latelyMar 13 20:18
DaemonFCI suspect most of the crap generating them is either blocked by my filters or blocked because they can't use the 1 pixel flash applet trick to bypass adblock plusMar 13 20:19
DaemonFCwebsites like Phoronix brought the Adblock Plus problem down on themselvesMar 13 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Configure Touchpad http://tinyurl.com/6hkb5juMar 13 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith cameo! Now we're talkin'! :D #diehardMar 13 20:22
DaemonFCI think I'll use a boring Sunday afternoon to make a custom Fedora kernelMar 13 20:23
*DaemonFC has his eye set on 2.6.37.3 + BFQ + THP + BFSMar 13 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be PeppardmintOS with the message "I love it when a compile comes together" upon successful compile #ATeam #lamejokesMar 13 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not to be confused with "kevin smith playing a camel", which is in the deleted scenes lolMar 13 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the way McLane kicks women around the same way he kicks male ass. That's equality right there. :)Mar 13 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Black Atheists: Providing a Platform http://ur1.ca/3i8bx #AmericanAtheists #diversityMar 13 20:29
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DaemonFCI can't wait for tar.xz kernel source archivesMar 13 20:30
DaemonFCLinux is getting fairly bigMar 13 20:30
schestowitzIt's like you :-pMar 13 20:32
schestowitzIn Wal-Mart daysMar 13 20:32
schestowitzThe Wal-Martisation of LUNIXMar 13 20:33
DaemonFChuh?Mar 13 20:33
DaemonFCthey use SuseMar 13 20:33
DaemonFCand WindowsMar 13 20:33
schestowitzLinux is on high-fructose corn syrup dietMar 13 20:33
schestowitzLinus too got chubbierMar 13 20:33
schestowitzDid you see him in LCA?Mar 13 20:33
schestowitzNow he's fuller than BallmerMar 13 20:34
DaemonFCdevelopers!Mar 13 20:34
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 20:34
DaemonFCI'm hunting down all my USB devices to plug inMar 13 20:35
DaemonFCso that lsmod will see them when I run make localmodconfigMar 13 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why the hell is Nokia advertising Symbian smartphones? What a crass lie....Mar 13 20:36
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cubezzzwho is chubby?Mar 13 20:40
cubezzzLinus?Mar 13 20:40
cubezzzok, well just use old Linux if you want smallMar 13 20:42
schestowitzMore than beforeMar 13 20:43
cubezzzbeen on FC1 for 7 years now :)Mar 13 20:43
schestowitzCause he gets little exercise perhapsMar 13 20:43
cubezzzyeah it's a programmer issue...Mar 13 20:43
cubezzzI try to exercise at least 1/2 an hour per dayMar 13 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Oh sweet documentation, why the hell do you not exist for ruby/mysql?Mar 13 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh they need to dump old stockMar 13 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I still have 10 Diaspora invites left if anyone is interested, it has come a long way since late last year. !identiverseMar 13 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: 6 million #DNA profiles 1 million innocents. Still rising - http://bit.ly/glMwyZ 10% of UK on database: shameful #surveillanceMar 13 20:44
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schestowitzcubezzz: it is...Mar 13 20:45
schestowitz_Goblin: nearly uploading nowMar 13 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh Because they didn't really gave up, they just added winphoney7 to their internal civil warMar 13 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kevin Smith in Die Hard 4.0 kinda reminds me of @jontheniceguy. Must be the stormtrooper decoration... :DMar 13 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: The week in review – ending Sunday 13/03/2011 http://tinyurl.com/6dp95ppMar 13 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quilt Donation To The FilKONtario 21 Silent Auction: http://bit.ly/g8vkKv #filk #quilting #music #folkMar 13 20:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: the tune is very good, I listen to it on repeat modeMar 13 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New translations at !techrights http://ur1.ca/3i8uz http://ur1.ca/3i8v0Mar 13 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Twitter Tells Developers: You're Not Needed Anymore http://lxnews.org/2011/03/13/twitter-developers-not-needed-anymore/Mar 13 21:06
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_Goblinschestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 21:06
schestowitzI think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 21:06
schestowitzIt's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 21:06
_Goblin:(Mar 13 21:06
schestowitz[21:06] <_Goblin> schestowitz: wasn't really my scene.......it is good though....Mar 13 21:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> I think I'm being throttled now due to VOIPMar 13 21:07
schestowitz[21:06] <schestowitz> It's as slow as dialup nowMar 13 21:07
_GoblinI may well be going solo for a show...got some topics I want to cover that probably wouldn't work with 3 people.....more personal opinion/experiences....Mar 13 21:08
_GoblinI will make it EP 34.1 if I do.....Mar 13 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Brother advertises by telling people to stick their passwort on their monitor? WTF!?!?!?? OoMar 13 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: The Sony Class Action's First Amended Complaint, as text - http://bit.ly/hC4pZC #sony #ps3 #dmca #groklawMar 13 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @lxnews I sure hope status.net doesn't do the same shit in order to be "twitter compatible"Mar 13 21:16
schestowitz_Goblin: sureMar 13 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh no! Mark didn't bother to take my arguments apart. How sad...... #sarcasmMar 13 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[codepope/@codepope] @fabsh I hope you know that no-one actually attempted to attack Chrome, Firefox, Android or WP7 at Pwn2Own 2011…Mar 13 21:24
DaemonFCwhy not Vista Phone 7?Mar 13 21:25
DaemonFCtoo obscure to have any widely known security bugs?Mar 13 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I already don't know what to believe in when it's related to Nokia :)Mar 13 21:26
*LifeMaskIsARetar is now known as MinceRMar 13 21:26
MinceReveryone knows it's irrelevantMar 13 21:26
MinceReveryone except mokia's major shareholders, that isMar 13 21:26
DaemonFCI have a Samsung phone running J2MEMar 13 21:26
DaemonFCit's passableMar 13 21:26
DaemonFCOpera Mini really salvages itMar 13 21:26
MinceRexcept that it's samsung and that it only runs j2me :>Mar 13 21:26
DaemonFCthe bundled Webkit browser freaks out on big pages and just complains that it won't fit into the phone's memoryMar 13 21:27
DaemonFCOpera loads them fineMar 13 21:27
MinceRthe webkit browser nokia bundles (BrowserNG) doesn't complain, it just quitsMar 13 21:27
MinceRit does that often on wikipediaMar 13 21:27
MinceRso i installed Opera Mobile insteadMar 13 21:28
DaemonFCof course Opera also compresses everything, which I doubt AT&T likes too muchMar 13 21:28
MinceRit works pretty wellMar 13 21:28
DaemonFCmore compression = less data they can ding me forMar 13 21:28
MinceRmore compression = lower quality images :>Mar 13 21:28
DaemonFCit's a phone...Mar 13 21:28
DaemonFCbesides, you CAN set it to only compress everything but imagesMar 13 21:28
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:28
MinceR"it's just a phone. isn't worth it."Mar 13 21:29
DaemonFCyou can save a little bit of data by only compressing HTMLMar 13 21:29
MinceRyou can often do that by telling the web server you accept gzipMar 13 21:29
DaemonFCOpera Mini is singlehandedly responsible for cutting my data bill in halfMar 13 21:29
DaemonFCthat crappy Webkit browser is a jokeMar 13 21:29
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DaemonFCcan't even remember what it's calledMar 13 21:29
MinceRs/isn't/not/Mar 13 21:30
DaemonFCwell, this is why Opera has customers, it's not possible to get decent results with Gecko or Webkit on a phoneMar 13 21:30
DaemonFCunless you deck out the CPU and beef up the battery and quadruple the RAMMar 13 21:30
MinceRi think it's possibleMar 13 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Highly unlikely and if they do we have AGPL. :DMar 13 21:31
MinceRi doubt that BrowserNG crashes because of khtml/webkitMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCWebkit is better than Gecko obviouslyMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCall aroundMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCon anythingMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCMiniMo flopped because nobody actually wanted to use it, even for freeMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCbecause its hardware requirements are too highMar 13 21:31
DaemonFCwebkit is faster, more standards compliant, and uses less resourcesMar 13 21:32
DaemonFCgiven a choice between the two, I see why everyone uses webkit on a phone instead of GeckoMar 13 21:32
DaemonFCbut if the phone maker doesn't totally cheap out, it has OperaMar 13 21:32
schestowitzMinceR: so what's your real name, Zoro?Mar 13 21:32
MinceRnopeMar 13 21:33
MinceRDaemonFC: because webkit is fashionable and gecko isn't? :>Mar 13 21:33
schestowitzZoltan?Mar 13 21:33
MinceRnopeMar 13 21:33
DaemonFCnot just fashionable, it's betterMar 13 21:33
MinceRkeep trying, there are only over 9000 more names to tryMar 13 21:33
DaemonFCnow, granted you can fuck it up by putting it in a bad browserMar 13 21:33
MinceRall the browsers i've seen so far were bad in one way or anotherMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCbut that's not the fault of Webkit, Safari sucks, a lot of these dinky no name Webkit browsers for phones like mine suckMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCOpera still has the best mobile browserMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCthat's sad when they not only have to compete with Microsoft, but also two FOSS projectsMar 13 21:34
DaemonFCI know Microsoft doesn't exactly set the bar high but you'd expect more out of free software than what's going on in Gecko or to a lesser extent, webkitMar 13 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview with man who claims he informed on Bradley Manning: A. Lamo http://is.gd/uc1zUM !wlMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCGecko simply has more $10,000 hammers and $20,000 toilet seats than WebkitMar 13 21:36
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DaemonFCand maybe some of those $50,000 coffee pots and $800 ashtrays :)Mar 13 21:36
MinceRthe web itself is a mess, they're probably tied up trying to deal with thatMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCa project that inefficient should be ran bu a governmentMar 13 21:36
DaemonFCfunny, Firefox is a joke, it's getting so bad they have to lie to cover up their own indifference and incompetence towards LinuxMar 13 21:37
DaemonFCthey blame broken drivers for their shitty OpenGL support, yet Chrome and Opera get along with OpenGL fineMar 13 21:37
DaemonFCon my "broken drivers"Mar 13 21:37
MinceRchrom{e,ium} is a worse jokeMar 13 21:38
DaemonFCif they're so broken, why does only Firefox have a problem with them? Why does everything else work fine?Mar 13 21:38
DaemonFCFirefox seems to like to grab random garbled data out of the card's back bufferMar 13 21:38
DaemonFCthat's not the fault of the driver for doing what Firefox tells it to doMar 13 21:39
DaemonFCthe driver is supposed to do what it's told, if Firefox is telling it to return the wrong data, they shouldn't bitch when they get the wrong data Mar 13 21:39
DaemonFCgranted it would be nice if the FGLRX command stream checker was as nifty as the radeon free driver'sMar 13 21:40
DaemonFCbut generally, it's not the job of the hardware or the driver to be psychic and know that a userspace app is being retardedMar 13 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We admire Mr Crowley, formerly of the US State Department, for speaking up for Bradley Manning. !wlMar 13 21:41
DaemonFCI'll use Firefox when it stops being retarded and starts asking the card to return the right dataMar 13 21:41
DaemonFCyou know, like Chrome doesMar 13 21:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 21:41
MinceRi'll use chrome when it stops being retarded and stops trying to crash the kernel when it crashesMar 13 21:42
MinceRyou know, like every other app doesn'tMar 13 21:42
DaemonFCbut fat chance that will ever happen as long as Mozilla is mostly just rubberneckers rushing to implement Microsoft technology that only works on WindowsMar 13 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man Jesus. The situation in #Japan looks more and more terrible. Multiple meltdowns, ten thousands dead....Mar 13 21:42
DaemonFCinstead of calling this out, many people are apologizing for itMar 13 21:42
MinceRplease remind me what os was chrome originally exclusively developed for because i forgotMar 13 21:43
MinceR:>Mar 13 21:43
DaemonFCyes Firefox is free software, no that doesn't excuse it from degrading like it has on anything non-WindowsMar 13 21:43
DaemonFCit doesn't even work right on a MacMar 13 21:43
MinceRwhat works right on a mac?Mar 13 21:43
DaemonFCtrueMar 13 21:43
MinceRthe price tag?Mar 13 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Wer künftig auf Atomkraft setzt, ist verantwortungslos." #RTLMar 13 21:44
DaemonFCChrome has basically been rewritten now that Google smells dollar signs from duct taping together a system loosely based on Linux and ChromeMar 13 21:44
DaemonFCin some ways, it works better on Linux than it does on WindowsMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCespecially regarding sandboxing, the APIs to do it on Windows are not all that greatMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCand easier to work aroundMar 13 21:45
DaemonFCthey have no real interest in anchoring it to Windows and pointing to Windows 7 when you ask what you have to do to make something work rightMar 13 21:46
DaemonFClike Mozilla doesMar 13 21:46
MinceRchrome probably works better without sandboxingMar 13 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Kenyan police accused of assassinating two human rights lawyers http://is.gd/NutpHk !wlMar 13 21:46
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DaemonFCthe SUID sandboxing is unobtrusive, the seccomp sandbox method has some kinksMar 13 21:46
DaemonFCbut it's mostly usableMar 13 21:46
DaemonFCFirefox doesn't sandbox at all, it's not even multithreadedMar 13 21:46
MinceRi won't let code from google run as root again on my boxesMar 13 21:47
DaemonFCthe only reason Firefox doesn't balloon to over a gig of RAM used up anymore is because they have a garbage reclaimer that they took from FreeBSDMar 13 21:47
MinceRi'm waiting for electrolysis to make it into an official ff releaseMar 13 21:47
DaemonFCthey had to use one licensed BSD because of their tri-license nonsenseMar 13 21:48
DaemonFCif they just relicensed all of Mozilla under the GPL, it would open up a lot more code to themMar 13 21:48
DaemonFCbut their mentality is more in line with BSDMar 13 21:49
DaemonFCsteal our code, please!Mar 13 21:49
DaemonFCrip us off, don't give back!Mar 13 21:49
MinceRexcept for trademarksMar 13 21:49
DaemonFCyou know Mozilla's quality is bad when Apple could have forked them under the BSD license and kept Safari closed sourceMar 13 21:49
DaemonFCand they took KHTML insteadMar 13 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linux #androidMar 13 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: and @danielmarti Read what I typed about #Ubuntu and #Canonical #Unity here :): http://identi.ca/conversation/66091074Mar 13 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Raster turbulence - !Gimp stuff http://ping.fm/lg92ZMar 13 21:51
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ah yes, the selective trademark licensingMar 13 21:51
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DaemonFCDebian can't call it Firefox, but Ubuntu can use all the same patches and then some, and it's FirefoxMar 13 21:51
DaemonFCit's all about quality control, right?Mar 13 21:51
DaemonFCnot singling anyone out :)Mar 13 21:51
DaemonFCbig companies scratch each others backs, it's why so much garbage that doesn't belong in Linux is in LinuxMar 13 21:52
DaemonFChv anyone?Mar 13 21:52
_GoblinI am a fish.Mar 13 21:53
DaemonFCthe staging tree has ballooned the kernel sources so much that it's about to exceed 100 megs as a tarballMar 13 21:53
DaemonFCthe only reason that is there is so they can pile in a bunch of crappy drivers without having to stand by any of themMar 13 21:54
_Goblincan't go wrong with drivers, crappy or otherwise.....Mar 13 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security, Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #wp7 #linuxMar 13 21:54
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DaemonFCa lot of companies now only get their drivers good enough to be in staging then they bailMar 13 21:54
DaemonFCand say they support linuxMar 13 21:54
DaemonFCit encourages bad drivers by offering to look the other way while the crap gets piled onMar 13 21:55
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_Goblinand its any different on Windows 7?Mar 13 21:55
_GoblinI know more than one person having real hardware probs with win7 and flatbed scanners.Mar 13 21:55
DaemonFCyeah, even Microsoft won't sign a driver that crashes too muchMar 13 21:55
DaemonFCyou crash too much, you risk getting your signing revokedMar 13 21:56
_Goblinso no support at all is better than partial?Mar 13 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Drunk Souls - Give me a sign on !jamendo #funky http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/1052Mar 13 21:56
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DaemonFCI'd rather them say do it right or don't bother, than put in a driver that randomly locks up my computer that most distros build by defaultMar 13 21:56
_GoblinIve never experienced that.....certainly not with Linux.Mar 13 21:57
_GoblinI did however experience that with Windows, hence I moved completely.Mar 13 21:57
DaemonFCunder the old system, by the time Ralink was allowed to merge the driver for my RT61, it was stable, now they just dump their new stuff into stagingMar 13 21:57
_Goblinmaybe Ive been luckyMar 13 21:57
DaemonFCand it crashes and freezes the kernel randomlyMar 13 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Manufacturer and handset market share in an !android app with google analytics | Stealthcopter.com http://ping.fm/TjblVMar 13 21:57
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_Goblinno such thing as random.......theres a good discussion for the channel.Mar 13 21:58
_Goblintheres order in chaos and all that.Mar 13 21:58
DaemonFCWell, the kernel.org people have said if anything taints your kernel, they don't want your bug reportsMar 13 21:58
DaemonFCso if you load staging drivers, FGLRX, nvidia, or ndiswrapper, you can't submit bugsMar 13 21:58
DaemonFCeven if it's unrelatedMar 13 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Prodigy - OmenMar 13 21:59
schestowitz_Goblin: I listen to the show now, which I never do (I don't like hearing myself) and it seems like I interrupted you a lot. I hadn't noticed.Mar 13 21:59
_Goblinand thats a big issue is it? this is what the mainstream is wanting is it?Mar 13 21:59
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....never been an issue, its part of the charm....Mar 13 22:00
DaemonFCbefore staging, a lot of this crap ended up in mmMar 13 22:00
DaemonFCno distro was crazy enough to use mmMar 13 22:00
DaemonFClife was good :)Mar 13 22:00
schestowitzuploading at 6k/secondMar 13 22:02
_Goblinlol.Mar 13 22:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 22:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 22:02
_Goblinschestowitz: sounds like you;ve been throttled and branded an evil pirate......that'll teach you for sharing your own materialMar 13 22:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: Considered satellite?Mar 13 22:03
_Goblinor carrier pigeonMar 13 22:03
DaemonFCor telegraphMar 13 22:04
DaemonFCI hear there's this transatlantic cableMar 13 22:04
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Bored #shitless :|Mar 13 22:04
DaemonFCugh, it's been so long since I used one of my systems I had it using radeonhdMar 13 22:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 13 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And even if they get this shit cooled down, they'll have a partially melted reactor core to deal with. This is already a disaster regardlessMar 13 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Chernobyl sarcophagus will have to be there for like 300 years. Imagine that in Japan. Plutonium half life is like 80 years....Mar 13 22:09
_GoblinI think I'm going to play Trinity on the PS3Mar 13 22:11
_Goblinyeah, why not....Mar 13 22:11
_Goblinschestowitz: FYI Gordon came up with a good name for tonights ep: "done on a dongle"Mar 13 22:12
schestowitzLOLMar 13 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody who after this *again* tries to argue for nuclear power needs to be shot on sight to cleanse the gene pool. Gimme a fucking break!Mar 13 22:14
schestowitz[22:03] <_Goblin> or carrier pigeonMar 13 22:15
schestowitz"Done on a pigeon"Mar 13 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @sebsebseb why do you prefer gnome shell over unity?Mar 13 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please tell @PJCrowley (Clinton spokesperson who resigned over WikiLeaks/Manning) that you support his courage. !wlMar 13 22:16
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.....Mar 13 22:16
schestowitzploaded 2.7 MB..Mar 13 22:17
schestowitzOut of 32 MBMar 13 22:17
schestowitzseems like an overnight upload... welcome back to 28.8 daze..Mar 13 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke Phone Etiquette - Part 2 http://goo.gl/x0gvaMar 13 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede: !Canonical and !GNOME: the Atlantic chasm? http://goo.gl/UFkAsMar 13 22:17
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schestowitz[22:02] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: remember to take the phone off the modem and hang up when it's doneMar 13 22:18
DaemonFCI hope Fedora 15 doesn't ship with Mesa 7.10Mar 13 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to bed. Last night I actually had a nightmare I was in an exploded nuclear plant. That was terrible. Stay save #Japan! I feel 4 you!Mar 13 22:19
DaemonFC7.11 is so much faster on my EvergreenMar 13 22:19
schestowitzI reckon ISPs also think it's "an act of piracy" when you pass audio files via FTP (very retro, before napster days)Mar 13 22:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: The open source radeon driver is faster on my laptop's RV480 than Catalyst ever wasMar 13 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://alturl.com/2bkuo !wlMar 13 22:21
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DaemonFCalso, Catalyst only ever got up to OpenGL 2.0 before dumping it even though the card is 2.1 capableMar 13 22:21
schestowitzIt looks to them like illicit stuffMar 13 22:21
schestowitz"Slow it, Jim, slow it!"Mar 13 22:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: what OS are you on now?Mar 13 22:21
DaemonFCthis system = Fedora 14 but I've made some modifications B-)Mar 13 22:22
DaemonFCI have Linux 2.6.38-rc8, I patched the FGLRX glue layer to support itMar 13 22:23
DaemonFCtrivial, like 3 lines, I got the patch from ArchMar 13 22:23
DaemonFCI also got their patch to make FGLRX not depend on the Big Kernel LockMar 13 22:23
DaemonFCso my kernel has no BKL since that was the only thing I had that used itMar 13 22:24
DaemonFCthe kernel has all the realtime stuff enabled, BFS, BFQ, BFQ group scheduler Mar 13 22:24
DaemonFCremoval of every feature I don't need and every driver I don't useMar 13 22:24
DaemonFCthe RPM package for my kernel only ended up being like 30 megsMar 13 22:25
DaemonFCB-)Mar 13 22:25
DaemonFCthere's also a lot of "while I'm in here anyway" stuff, like setting max CPUs to 4 and max GPUs to 2Mar 13 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://alturl.com/nj7ew !wlMar 13 22:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I typically compile stuff within YakuakeMar 13 22:27
DaemonFCthen all I have to do is hit F12 and see how it's coming along :)Mar 13 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/13/ap/eu... http://bit.ly/dTfQEBMar 13 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: More on the @PJCrowley resignation http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/13/crowley-manning-resignation/ http://bit.ly/dRtbasMar 13 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Can’t Produce Better Phones? Sue the Rival and Misuse Security Says the #Microsoft Camp http://ur1.ca/3i9ee #mobile #windowsMar 13 22:34
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schestowitzgnMar 13 22:34
_Goblingn mateMar 13 22:34
schestowitzmight take 20 hours to uploadMar 13 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @wikileaks: #WikiLeaks: cable shows details of BAE Saudi arms deal http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/13/ap/eu... http://bit.ly/dTfQEBMar 13 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Court Rules Government Can Collect Private Records of Twitter Users » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union htMar 13 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] And my marriage anniversary as well (intentionally) ♺ @gbraad: Happy #pi day and a happy anniversary @yongyuan. #314... #5yearsMar 13 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Off to mountain viewMar 13 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Crowley resignation letter: "The exercise of power must be prudent and consistent with our laws and values" !wlMar 13 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sleeveroller: RT @vGuyUK: explanation of #Fukushima incident by Josef Oehman at MIT: http://t.co/xgjDZVl #japanMar 13 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad hehehehMar 13 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My uncool secret. I really like Porridge :)Mar 13 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @toros: !Android Community: Android survives pwn2own hacking contest http://goo.gl/Cp3vlMar 13 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with Unity!Mar 13 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android survives Pwn2Own hacking contest | Android Community .::. Size~: 48.29 KBMar 13 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @toros: Many reasons, one of which is how #Canonical aren't playing upstream properly with #Unity!Mar 13 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Time for bed.Mar 13 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Experimental 3D Acceleration of Nouveau works well. I don't feel the desire to install the Nvidia propritary binary blob #freesoftwareMar 13 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Surviving Disaster: Japan’s Internet http://is.gd/LEkL9JMar 13 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Welcome @ferguskelly :)Mar 13 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Congratulations! Get's an identity like @lilbernie ;) ♺ @macno: Maddalena is born!!!!! She and her mom are fine!Mar 13 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @njpatel Resizing dash and properly collapsing homeview http://is.gd/s6D3sF . Now time for FIFA11!Mar 13 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canvas Rider seems to be an HTML5 game? http://canvasrider.com/Mar 13 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] spot the astroturfers in the comments http://tighturl.com/303a they're so obvious they may as well wear name badgesMar 13 23:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Movie piracy: We need a hi-tech solution to illegal downloads | Editorial | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 248.97 KBMar 13 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Hacker,now in hiding,who turned in #Manning accused over WikiLeaks,says he got "coffee and a pat on the back" !wikileaks http://is.gd/uc1zUMMar 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm guessing. I can never work games out :)Mar 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So this Google circles is scheduled for May now, not imminent at all?Mar 13 23:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacker: Why I turned FBI informer - Americas - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 87.75 KBMar 13 23:24
MinceRi like having a big pile of drivers if it means good hw supportMar 13 23:25
MinceRas for crApple's choice of html renderer, who gives a fuck what those retards think is good?Mar 13 23:26
MinceRthe same people who came up with darwin...Mar 13 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Social Media Monitoring in the Russian Speaking Internet « Social media lessons from Russia and the UK http://ping.fm/CV94jMar 13 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Social Media Monitoring in the Russian Speaking Internet « Social media lessons from Russia and the UK .::. Size~: 29.03 KBMar 13 23:31
Ender2070they use webkit afaikMar 13 23:33
Ender2070nothing wrong with thatMar 13 23:33
MinceRbut it's hardly an argument for itMar 13 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Twitter explains... but your comments don't really cover new !Opensource !twitter clients that don't need to make money, @rsarver ? http://pMar 13 23:37
Ender2070there isn't much out there that is better than webkitMar 13 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The link that got clipped referred to the NextWeb story @rsarver http://tnw.co/dEc7ISMar 13 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If you developed (or are developing) a 3rd party #Twitter app, this is the time to move over to #StatusNet. Twitter doesn't want you anymoreMar 13 23:57

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