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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just spent about 5 hours on #SIP with @openbytes preparing settings for video versions of future !techbytes shows. All done & tested. | Apr 15 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks lays bare the extent of US-Israeli relations | Jewish Chronical http://is.gd/pt5LVz http://bit.ly/gYBFns | Apr 15 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks in the spotlight at the National Media Reform Conference http://is.gd/ft6Uef http://bit.ly/hwKmV5 | Apr 15 00:11 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wikileaks in the spotlight at the National Conference for Media Reform | Dangerous Intersection .::. Size~: 146.55 KB | Apr 15 00:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @seantorrie Guelph students say "surprise, we are voting" Harper reply to students, "surprise, you are not" http://ur1.ca/3uo4j !elxn41 | Apr 15 00:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat's Java cache move sparks spec spat (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/g5uNhu | Apr 15 00:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat's Java cache move sparks standards spat | Application Development - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 94.71 KB | Apr 15 00:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] V. 3 - You Can't Go #GNOME Again http://ur1.ca/3uo61 But: #Unity environment in good shape, on track for #Ubuntu 11.04 http://ur1.ca/3uo7d | Apr 15 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "beacon of hope" is clearly another term of "snake oil" in #Labour dictionaries http://is.gd/KLAj61 #politics | Apr 15 00:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Community: V. 3 - You Can't Go GNOME Again .::. Size~: 57.73 KB | Apr 15 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unity environment in good shape, on track for Ubuntu 11.04 .::. Size~: 33.05 KB | Apr 15 00:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Vote 2011: Labour promises Wales a 'beacon of hope' .::. Size~: 71.98 KB | Apr 15 00:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15: Back in the game! http://ur1.ca/3uo93 #redhat #gnu #linux | Apr 15 00:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh, I may buy the third humble bundle now | Apr 15 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' Beta 2 Released http://ur1.ca/3uob3 | Apr 15 00:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' Beta 2 Released ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 114.26 KB | Apr 15 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | one of the games did something stupid that caused it not to run on the free drivers | Apr 15 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | it referred to a GLX extension as its vendor name and not the proper finalized extension name, which Gallium already supported | Apr 15 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | Gallium's fix for that landed today, where it calls that extension by both names :P | Apr 15 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zombies #games on #Linux http://ur1.ca/3ulo5 "Atom zombie smasher, violetland, Ultimate Zombie Fighters, project zomboid and Zombpocalypse" | Apr 15 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » Linuxaria 5 Zombies games on Linux .::. Size~: 70.93 KB | Apr 15 00:37 |
| schestowitz | they have Microsoft supporr | Apr 15 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Universe studying #GNU #Linux supercomputer powered up http://ur1.ca/3uoe9 "10TB of NFS storage" | Apr 15 00:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Universe studying Linux supercomputer powered up - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 89.32 KB | Apr 15 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's a common problem with free software supporting proprietary hardware where it's easier to add a workaround than ask the vendor to fix their broken hardware | Apr 15 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | this time it was Gallium which had to workaround broken proprietary software | Apr 15 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | even though Gallium's previous behavior was more correct | Apr 15 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | the fix was trivial, all the "new" extension is, is an alias to the old one | Apr 15 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | but imagine what could end up happening if every OpenGL application did this, and Gallium had to claim to support two extensions for every extension it really does support | Apr 15 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | the proprietary OpenGL stacks do that and it's one reason why their glxinfo goes on, and on, and on | Apr 15 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 15 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose there's no harm in it other then making the output of glxinfo really unreadable | Apr 15 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | and adding several hundred lines of code just to alias vendor names to the extension name | Apr 15 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if they could just scrap OpenGL and start over with a new 3d API designed for modern hardware and to avoid patents and bloated extensions that really are only good for claiming to support the entire API | Apr 15 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Don't they also increase directhacks support | Apr 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | ? | Apr 15 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | I believe the hardware around today is generic enough that this is technically possible | Apr 15 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 15 00:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New release of Mono-free distro (and proud of it) comes with the latest #KDE http://ur1.ca/3uojd /cc @openbytes | Apr 15 00:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | if you add OpenGL features, you're already making it more DirectX compatible, schestowitz | Apr 15 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | via Wine | Apr 15 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, DirectX is not happening on free software, obviously | Apr 15 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL is full of patents and bloat | Apr 15 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the way forward? | Apr 15 00:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia Beta1 in pictures http://ur1.ca/3uomg #mandriva #gnu #linux | Apr 15 00:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Free sticker when you say "domo arigato" at the EFF RoboGames table this weekend in San Mateo! http://robogames.net | Apr 15 00:48 | |
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| schestowitz | FreeGL | Apr 15 00:48 |
| schestowitz | !google fsfe opengl thank | Apr 15 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Planet - Fellowship of FSFE | http://planet.fsfe.org/ | Apr 15 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Fellowship Interviews | http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/ | Apr 15 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - #543475 - with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1, box selection crashes ... | http://bugs.debian.org/543475 | Apr 15 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Advogato: GNU and FSF News for November 2007 | http://www.advogato.org/article/954.html | Apr 15 00:48 |
| schestowitz | oops, typo | Apr 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | !google fsf opengl thank | Apr 15 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Thank you SGI, for freeing the GNU/Linux 3D desktop! — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/thank-you-sgi | Apr 15 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - gleem - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | http://www.gnu.org/software/gleem/ | Apr 15 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linux.com :: SGI relicenses OpenGL: "A huge gift to the free ... | http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/148339 | Apr 15 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - FSF to rapidly develop open/free PowerVR driver - free maemo ... | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php%3Fp%3D946866 | Apr 15 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | only parts of OpenGL are suitable for free software | Apr 15 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | obviously s3tc and floating point textures are blocking OpenGL 3+ and even full OpenGL 2.1 compliance | Apr 15 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | this is....bad | Apr 15 00:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/man-infects-himself-with-computer-virus/ Man Infects Himself With Computer Virus | Apr 15 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://deviceguru.com/ham-satellite-broadcast-celebrates-1st-manned-space-flight/ | Apr 15 01:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is enough of Lady Gaga. Inoffensive synth pop. | Apr 15 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy Vishu! http://ur1.ca/3up6a | Apr 15 01:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] a partir de ahora estoy en vivo desde @fcbosque en Bogotá !flisolbogota !radiognu /cc @islene cheguei! :-) | Apr 15 01:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] rd @seantorrie Guelph students say "surprise, we are voting" Harper reply to students, "surprise, you are not" http://ur1.ca/3uo4j !elxn41 | Apr 15 01:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] End of second period, Montreal leading Boston 1-0 #hockey | Apr 15 01:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Net Neutrality: An Encouraging Report From the French Parliament http://ur1.ca/3uk6u #NetNeutrality | Apr 15 01:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @flisolbogota: Quieres escuchar sobre sexo, drogas y software este próximo sábado a las 12 a.m, @lxoliva l@s invita a tod@s#! #radioGNU ;D | Apr 15 02:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] having a hard time trying to figure out why #linux kernel #sctp is deciding to drop one data chunk and all its retransmissions | Apr 15 02:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I asked my landlord if there are any kiddie diddlers he's not renting to. | Apr 15 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | he gave me a stare | Apr 15 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 02:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] First time I can recall the ISP going down only for 10 mins though. | Apr 15 02:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel 2011Q1 Linux Graphics Package: With xf86-video-intel 2.15 now having been released, Intel has just issued ... http://bit.ly/eykkRs | Apr 15 02:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Blender Becomes More Usable With 2.57 Release: Blender 2.57 has been released and while its version number may s... http://bit.ly/fwDflR | Apr 15 02:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.3-libre now available at http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/ as announced live on !radiognu | Apr 15 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if anyone could do an audio CLI guide in Klingon, that's be hilarious, lots of Klingon words with the odd *nix commands & flags | Apr 15 03:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Weee! Amazing indeed! Makes CPV viable alternative! RD @zaibatsu Amazing: Solar Cells Hit 43 Percent Efficiency #green http://cnet.co/hXkMNz | Apr 15 03:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fabsh ♺ @johanv: It looks like a #gnu indeed :-P ♺ @evan: for comparison http://ur1.ca/3u9id | Apr 15 04:00 | |
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| More Microsoft vaporware. http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/index.php/20110412/news/8368/windows-already-up-and-running-on-arm-architecture/ | Apr 15 04:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows already up and running on ARM architecture | RCR Unplugged .::. Size~: 97.05 KB | Apr 15 04:08 |
| Vista 8 will run on ARM, they swear! | Apr 15 04:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Vista 9 will run on LEG | Apr 15 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | and it's now the Pink Screen of Death | Apr 15 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ballmer sez, Vista 9 is FABULOUS!!!! | Apr 15 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Vista 10 will run on a quantum computer because nobody is really sure how it works anyway. | Apr 15 04:12 |
| Looking back at Vista 7, I see that they explicitly ruled out running on ARM, though they hyped Vista 7's supposed ability to run on netbooks. don't try that at home. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/216759 | Apr 15 04:13 | |
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| It's funny how they rolled about a pile of truly craptacular WinCE netbooks last year and acted like those were good enough for users. | Apr 15 04:15 | |
| Now they play the same sham again. | Apr 15 04:15 | |
| Not even the Microsoft friendly source claiming it already runs thinks they will get there. Shame on Slashdot for passing on Microsoft Vapor (TM). | Apr 15 04:16 | |
| blah! | Apr 15 04:16 | |
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| some good news, http://falkvinge.net/2011/04/14/european-court-of-justice-to-outlaw-internet-filtering-esp-for-copyright-enforcement/ | Apr 15 04:20 | |
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| perhaps they can undo France's obnoxious three strikes laws | Apr 15 04:21 | |
| if that falls, other parts of Oceania, such as Australia and New Zealand might get smart. | Apr 15 04:22 | |
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| Ender2070 | lol twitter | Apr 15 04:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] usual high school journalism at work with the #BBC http://is.gd/CCMDvu #Microsoft story without the M or W words #typical #pathetic | Apr 15 04:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] any idea how I can search for a term on $transifex without looking at a specific project? I thought it was possible to do so AFAIR. !lazyweb | Apr 15 04:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] any idea how I can search for a term on #transifex without looking at a specific project? I thought it was possible to do so AFAIR. !lazyweb | Apr 15 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well done #JohnyCassidy #BBC article about music stores that doesn't blame "piracy" for everything http://is.gd/pBduN9 I'm stunned | Apr 15 04:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if this will be pulled & rewritten when the #BPI see it | Apr 15 04:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If we can't get good evidence, we'll go for junk evidence. If we can't a real theory, we'll go with a conspiracy theory. —C. #Hitchens !q | Apr 15 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @psuresh I didn't know #Google had lifted the ban on #AGPL! via admitting any OSI licenses! The news was low-key. !freesoftware http: ... | Apr 15 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If we can't get good evidence, we'll go for junk evidence. If we can't get a real theory, we'll go with a conspiracy theory. #Hitchens !q | Apr 15 04:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] National Post: Fringe profile: Pirate Party champions Internet issues http://ur1.ca/3un5u !elxn41 !fed2011 | Apr 15 05:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter The fonts look good, but the one I tried doesn't have a license deed in the zip file, and only info says © all rights reserved | Apr 15 05:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @quaid @laurelrusswurm thoughtful response to why she her novel 'Inconstant Moon' is CC BY NC SA ... for now http://bit.ly/gYoH6b #co ... | Apr 15 05:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Dear Twitter, did it occur to you that after about a year of you trying to tell me about the "new" version, I DON'T care to read about it? | Apr 15 05:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psuresh I didn't know #Google had lifted the ban on #AGPL! via admitting any OSI licenses! The news was low-key. !freesoftware http: ... | Apr 15 05:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight !identiverse .... zzzzzzzzz | Apr 15 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #RSAnimate: RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us http://is.gd/j2jKdw http://is.gd/SpuTbN | Apr 15 06:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @digimer: RT @Filterologist: Shoutout to all the nurses who are underpaid & underappreciated. They make the difference in our healthcare. | Apr 15 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 466 Last therapy session with 1 therapist. Teenagers... http://bit.ly/8Z0qUq #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #reading #scifi | Apr 15 06:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Reminder and a Thought: http://is.gd/oMeiHX #sco #legal #PJ #wewillmissher | Apr 15 06:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Asia runs out of IPv4 addresses - should we "APNIC" now? ;) http://ur1.ca/3urat | Apr 15 06:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #stable #kernel 2.6.38.3 released http://bit.ly/hjuqTz #mustupgrade | Apr 15 07:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Where The Open-Source AMD Driver Is At For Modern GPUs: Earlier this week Sapphire launched the Radeon HD 5830 E... http://bit.ly/fzkE65 | Apr 15 08:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My talk has been accepted for Bettersoftware 2011 - will speak of cloud computing and stuff. #bs2011 | Apr 15 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All it takes is a Windsor wedding and Britain's natural serf mentality breaks out like a dose of clap. #WishIwasbornFrench | Apr 15 08:23 | |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 15 08:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Trust, Governance and Democracy: http://wp.me/pj2fj-pR #sgelection | Apr 15 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Portugal: Open Standards become prerequisite for government IT http://is.gd/D3wdrG #portugal #openstandards #egovt | Apr 15 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !android Safest way to root a Samsung Galaxy S ? Anyone have a good link? #tia | Apr 15 08:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Possible to connect netbook to internet via wireless/bluetooth on !android Samsung Galaxy S. Any suggestions? Found PdaNet for USB cable. | Apr 15 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh gee. The Guy next to me spoke loud on the phone and arranged to fix a public procurement (which obviously is a crime...). | Apr 15 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Where are my manners!? Good morning !identiverse :) | Apr 15 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: - Draga mea, vrei sa petrecem un weekend minunat ? - Daaa, ce idee buna ! - Ok atunci ne vedem luni! | Apr 15 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS_Announce: CESA-2011:0370 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 wireshark Update - http://is.gd/xhhoZK #centos | Apr 15 08:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS_Announce: CEBA-2011:0359 CentOS 5 x86_64 xulrunner Update - http://is.gd/HxIk0m #centos | Apr 15 08:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EU_Commission: Launched a public #consultation on the strategy of the European Institute of Innovation & #Technology http://bit.ly/hDqhHu | Apr 15 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is "#plagiarism" in a judicial decision wrong? - http://bit.ly/hJHMHc weird | Apr 15 08:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Brilliant! Bloke on telly describes British and French as having a Vicky Pollard #Libya policy. "Regime change...yeah but.. no but" #spoton | Apr 15 08:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google’s Earnings: 4 Takeaways - http://on.mash.to/dQDsE8 useful analysis | Apr 15 08:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @ave: =)) | Apr 15 08:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vandals Win First Round Of Ridiculous Lawsuit Variety Filed Against Them; Issue Mocking Video - http://bit.ly/hPT60I hooray | Apr 15 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New version of Blender released, learning curve no longer a brick wall - http://tnw.co/gIpUry doubly good news #opensource #3dmodelling | Apr 15 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody New version of Blender released, learning curve no longer a brick wall - http://tnw.co/gIpUry doubly good news #opensource ... | Apr 15 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Google’s Earnings: 4 Takeaways - http://on.mash.to/dQDsE8 useful analysis | Apr 15 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Save #Khimki Forest: Stand with #Russia's Human Rights and Environmental Activists - http://bit.ly/dFjsOR brave people, difficult cause | Apr 15 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but. | Apr 15 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Smartphone Wars: NoWin deal “more takeover than deal”? - http://bit.ly/ij3EqG "$85 [android] tablets now implies $50 tablets year end" | Apr 15 08:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Armed and Dangerous » Blog Archive » The Smartphone Wars: NoWin deal “more takeover than deal”? .::. Size~: 48.21 KB | Apr 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | ok, exciting stuff today... coding wise... and Tim and I sorted out the video, will start a youtube channel probably | Apr 15 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blogging for #HuffPo Is Like Writing Open-Source Software - http://bit.ly/f661me good analogy #opensource | Apr 15 09:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Campus copyright: publishers sue over university "e-reserves" - http://bit.ly/hjr2HU more evidence #copyright not fit for 21st century | Apr 15 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Explanation of the #ECJ opinion on internet #blocking - http://bit.ly/ecnY8w let's hope it's correct #isps | Apr 15 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where in Singapore can I get this: Nokia Bicycle Charger Kit http://t.co/sgSnldG | Apr 15 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy. | Apr 15 09:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] "Three quarters of workers polled by #Microsoft feel they are forced to #lie at work, and about half admit to doing it." http://ur1.ca/3us2o | Apr 15 09:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks Associates Hit Back Over U.S. Twitter Records Demand - http://bit.ly/guKgla the Icelandic (& Dutch & US) saga continues | Apr 15 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: !Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2 Released: Test and Report! http://goo.gl/U31ZR | Apr 15 09:19 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 15 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Faenza Icon Theme Updated With New #LibreOffice, !UbuntuOne Icons http://goo.gl/dwbrY !u | Apr 15 09:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: !Ubuntu App Developer Week Day 3 http://goo.gl/F0dar | Apr 15 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2 released http://goo.gl/fKqAl | Apr 15 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: #GDM Greeter First User Interface http://goo.gl/NUoj3 | Apr 15 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evolutionary Babel was in southern Africa - http://bit.ly/hJs62S sounds plausible #linguistics #phonemes | Apr 15 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox Add-on ‘Undoes’ U.S. Government Domain Seizures - http://bit.ly/igSWfP simply inevitable | Apr 15 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Google !Android: 350,000 daily activations, 3 billion apps served http://goo.gl/UnDbS | Apr 15 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists teleport Schrodinger's cat http://ur1.ca/3usc3 !science | Apr 15 10:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @syntax: Oooh, there's going to be powered rails in !minecraft 1.5. Guess that just made the booster more or less redundant. | Apr 15 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Being Successful With New Business Models Still Means Hard Work - http://bit.ly/hXxOB6 record labels please note #businessmodels | Apr 15 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I seriously hate software that uses rpc. It's so... Firewall unfriendly! Specially since for some reason sunrpc.* isn't being respected! | Apr 15 10:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Being Successful With New Business Models Still Means Hard Work | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.88 KB | Apr 15 10:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yale Rolls Out 10 New Courses – All Free - http://bit.ly/fzZYj6 "Moral Foundations of Politics" - must be a very short course, that one #ocw | Apr 15 10:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | why the hell would anyone buy SCO for their "UNIX business"? | Apr 15 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | SCO UNIXWARE is laughably outdated | Apr 15 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, most proprietary UNIX systems are in that kind of shape, though maybe not as bad | Apr 15 10:42 |
| MinceR | their "UNIX business" is "suing UNIX developers and users business" | Apr 15 10:43 |
| MinceR | (well, more like "FUDding" than "suing" now, since everyone who matters knows they're full of shit) | Apr 15 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | they claim the lawsuits remain with SCO and they only bought the UNIX business | Apr 15 10:44 |
| MinceR | so they'll start new lawsuits? :> | Apr 15 10:44 |
| MinceR | or threaten starting them? | Apr 15 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | anyone still using Unixware is doing it because they have legacy applications | Apr 15 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | not because they want to keep using it | Apr 15 10:45 |
| MinceR | who said they're buying sco? | Apr 15 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | I misunderstood it to mean that | Apr 15 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | my mistake | Apr 15 10:45 |
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| DaemonFC | the only proprietary UNIX that still seems to be in any kind of decent shape is Solaris | Apr 15 10:46 |
| MinceR | if you call that a "decent shape" | Apr 15 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | they really mishandled the open sourcing of it | Apr 15 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | and making it proprietary again was even dumber | Apr 15 10:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cine folosește GNU/Linux în România (1) http://is.gd/3b2fQH #Linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #foss | Apr 15 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China Mobile Planning Own Brand Linux Tablets - http://bit.ly/fLk5vo "planning to spend $333 million on purchasing 1 million tablet devices" | Apr 15 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cine folosește GNU/Linux în România (1) | Blogul lui Răzvan .::. Size~: 74.08 KB | Apr 15 10:48 |
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| DaemonFC | basically they're screwed now because companies don't want to buy niche hardware | Apr 15 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the only thing Solaris ever really ran well on | Apr 15 10:48 |
| MinceR | especially from a company that is destroying everything they bought with the company that used to make said niche hardware? :> | Apr 15 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | it runs on x86, but it has a severe shortage of working drivers | Apr 15 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | you can't just slap Solaris on any old x86 box and expect it to work, where Linux usually does | Apr 15 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not really sure I'd call OpenOffice a great program | Apr 15 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's more like, the best out of a bad bunch | Apr 15 10:50 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call any office application a great program | Apr 15 10:51 |
| MinceR | well, maybe Gnumeric | Apr 15 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Clip Art Library DouDou #Linux Competition and Famous People Collection - http://bit.ly/fLyCdl good work #cc0 #clipart | Apr 15 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Who uses GNU/Linux in Romania (1) http://tinyurl.com/6ek7msh #linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #desktop #foss | Apr 15 10:51 | |
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| MinceR | but even that inherits the design flaws of the traditional spreadsheet app model | Apr 15 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | LibreOffice makes some nice improvements | Apr 15 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | OpenOffice used to just crash when I tried to load an Excel spreadsheet with cells that just went on and on | Apr 15 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 15 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | LibreOffice has that Go-OO patch that allows a million cells | Apr 15 10:52 |
| MinceR | ah, the classic "RDBMS? what's that?" use case | Apr 15 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Here we have a case where the idiot that sends you the spreadsheet can't be bothered to break it up | Apr 15 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | and instead sends you one massive one that takes 10 minutes to load | Apr 15 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | and all of your RAM | Apr 15 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | and it's illegal to kill them *sadface* | Apr 15 10:54 |
| MinceR | why is _he_ working one that takes 10 minutes to load and all his RAM in the first place? | Apr 15 10:54 |
| MinceR | s/on/on on/ | Apr 15 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | who knows? | Apr 15 10:54 |
| MinceR | that's my point | Apr 15 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | That's the way things get done in state offices apparently | Apr 15 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 10:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Google Should Buy the #Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, and it would solve so many problems #copyright | Apr 15 10:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Why Google Should Buy the Music Industry .::. Size~: 74.93 KB | Apr 15 10:54 |
| MinceR | would it? | Apr 15 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the government | Apr 15 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | because of shit like this, among other things | Apr 15 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | dumbasses | Apr 15 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You know what's funny? All state forms are in Microsoft formats, including ones for public assistance | Apr 15 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cine folosește GNU/Linux în România (1): În București, pe galeria CORA din Pantelimon, laptopurile de la câteva ... http://bit.ly/hkYP36 | Apr 15 10:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | apparently they think someone applying for section 8 housing or food stamps is going to have a $200 copy of Microsoft Office | Apr 15 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | just laying around | Apr 15 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | I know if I had no food and no money for rent, the first thing I'd buy is Microsoft Office | Apr 15 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't that make sense to you? | Apr 15 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | and while I'm out, with no money for rent or food, I'll buy a PC with Windows to run that $200 copy of Office | Apr 15 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | because it's not like $1,000 can pay rent or buy food | Apr 15 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | now is it? :) | Apr 15 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | oh sure you can go to your local "Family Services" office, there's ONE in every county (about 300 square miles) | Apr 15 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | since you don't have money for food or rent, you can just gas up your car and head on over there | Apr 15 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 15 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | kind of makes me wonder how illegal aliens that don't speak English can abuse the system | Apr 15 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | when it makes it so hard to apply for help or even get over there to begin with | Apr 15 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Google Should Buy the Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, [it'd] solve so many problems #copyright | Apr 15 11:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Nothing the state does makes any sense | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | you really want to know why they send out million cell spreadsheets? | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 11:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It makes worse sence here. | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | ask them | Apr 15 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Currently MS Office and MS Windows cost more than the USA. | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | haha | Apr 15 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Yet we cannot by the USA copies and install them. | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 15 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | because of geolocation in the activation service | Apr 15 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | I am guessing :) | Apr 15 11:03 |
| oiaohm | 100 percent correct. | Apr 15 11:03 |
| oiaohm | first activation has to be in the right country. | Apr 15 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | use a proxy? | Apr 15 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Fails. | Apr 15 11:03 |
| oiaohm | proxy adds too much time. | Apr 15 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | call their US activation line? | Apr 15 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Works until the first windows update. DaemonFC | Apr 15 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Apr 15 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | cool | Apr 15 11:04 |
| oiaohm | all the cheat methods are covered. | Apr 15 11:04 |
| oiaohm | First electronic activation. | Apr 15 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | oh, so it works and then it immediately reactivates during the first batch of updates | Apr 15 11:05 |
| oiaohm | So even if you get it activated using US activation line. | Apr 15 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | so you're activated for like 5 minutes | Apr 15 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 11:05 |
| oiaohm | activated for 5 mins then dies. | Apr 15 11:05 |
| oiaohm | and if you ring up and ask question you are dead meat. | Apr 15 11:05 |
| oiaohm | License restrictions on windows say the license is only valid if sold in the correct geolocation. | Apr 15 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] European Court of Justice To Outlaw Internet Filtering !outlawstory !lo http://tinyurl.com/3dnplbz | Apr 15 11:06 | |
| oiaohm | And installed in the correct geolocation. | Apr 15 11:06 |
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| DaemonFC | I about bought a monitor while I was at Walmart earlier | Apr 15 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | sure glad I didn't | Apr 15 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | I thought to go back and look at the display model | Apr 15 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | and the only connectors it has are DVI and VGA | Apr 15 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | If I pay that much I want HDMI or DisplayPort | Apr 15 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 15 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | why are there still monitors that use DVI? | Apr 15 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's been deprecated | Apr 15 11:07 |
| oiaohm | No its not. | Apr 15 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Lot of video cards are still DVI. | Apr 15 11:08 |
| oiaohm | HDMI due to its encryption has a bad habit of being a total prick. | Apr 15 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | mine has hdmi, DVI, and displayport | Apr 15 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | no VGA connector | Apr 15 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Ie VGA connect is deprecated. | Apr 15 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | erm | Apr 15 11:09 |
| oiaohm | DVI is still current. | Apr 15 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | it has been for a while | Apr 15 11:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | you do realize HDMI is just DVI with audio pins, right? | Apr 15 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | basically it is, yes | Apr 15 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: DVI also has analogo option. | Apr 15 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | it really doesnt | Apr 15 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | nothing supports it | Apr 15 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | most devices do not support DVI-A | Apr 15 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | VGA causes all kinds of hell | Apr 15 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | not to mention X gets pissy with you if you don't use the VGA arbiter and try to run multiple X servers | Apr 15 11:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] European Court of Justice To Outlaw Internet Filtering !outlawstory !lo http://tinyurl.com/3dnplbz | Apr 15 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I believe what you meant to say was "fuck you, fedora design and marketing" http://ur1.ca/3uspj #</rant> | Apr 15 11:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | X is a pile of crap but VGA is too | Apr 15 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 11:12 |
| oiaohm | My screen here will take DVI-A and DVI-D. Yes warpped it did not have a VGA port on it but it had a DVI-A to VGA cable. | Apr 15 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | dvi-vga cable will save you from having to use the vga arbiter | Apr 15 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | I've done it like that before | Apr 15 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | errr, connector that is | Apr 15 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | the VGA arbiter itself has bugs | Apr 15 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 11:13 |
| oiaohm | Really VGA arbiter is only if you card uses old VGA interfaces. | Apr 15 11:14 |
| oiaohm | Not if you are using VGA cable from video card to screen. | Apr 15 11:14 |
| oiaohm | Some modern crappy cards still need vga arbiter even that they have DVI and displayport ports. | Apr 15 11:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russian manufacturers offer tablet PCs - http://bit.ly/el1S1h running #android, of course #russia #tablets | Apr 15 11:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder what this month's fglrx is going to have | Apr 15 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm starting to be pissed that they still use the big kernel lock | Apr 15 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't even exist in 2.6.39 | Apr 15 11:18 |
| oiaohm | They can put it off a while yet. | Apr 15 11:19 |
| oiaohm | 2.6.39 is not offically released yet. | Apr 15 11:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures appoints European head - http://bit.ly/h5AAnE be afraid, be very afraid #patenttrolls #intellectualventures | Apr 15 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Skype for !Android Hacked, Personal Data an Easy Target according to Product Reviews http://ping.fm/lCqt3 | Apr 15 11:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | the preview driver for Ubuntu Natty is really slow | Apr 15 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's not that much faster than the free drivers | Apr 15 11:20 |
| oiaohm | yep. | Apr 15 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | what exactly happened? :P | Apr 15 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even worth using in the state it's in | Apr 15 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Intellectual Ventures appoints European head - http://bit.ly/h5AAnE be afraid, be very afraid #patenttrolls #intellectualv ... | Apr 15 11:21 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: No more cheating by holding the BKL so other processes cannot do anything. | Apr 15 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, its performance is roughly cut in half | Apr 15 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | literally | Apr 15 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | and 2.6.38 still has the big kernel lock btw | Apr 15 11:22 |
| oiaohm | Did Ubuntu build with the big kernel lock. | Apr 15 11:23 |
| oiaohm | From memory I though the ubuntu one was patched big kernel lock free. | Apr 15 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 15 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | it fails to build a module if you remove the BKL | Apr 15 11:23 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, I tried fucking with it to get it to make a module for 2.6.39 | Apr 15 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | and it jsut wouldn't | Apr 15 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I gave up | Apr 15 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's not really worth fighting it so it will spit out a proprietary driver that's not even all that much faster and causes a lot of bugs | Apr 15 11:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A modest proposal for an interstellar communications network http://ur1.ca/3usth !science | Apr 15 11:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, You figure the free radeon driver would benefit from no forced preemption? | Apr 15 11:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hello from Arch. :) | Apr 15 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Google accused of blocking third-party !Android search apps in Korean antitrust complaints http://ping.fm/UXCWj | Apr 15 11:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] eSecurity Planet: Side Channel Attack Beats #Skype Encryption http://ping.fm/6kNFg | Apr 15 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Damm I look forward to getting my laptop reinstalled with #F15 and the new #Pino client, I keep seeing double posts from my #F13 | Apr 15 11:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Side Channel Attack Beats Skype Encryption - www.esecurityplanet.com .::. Size~: 63.23 KB | Apr 15 11:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Adobe warns of [another?] software vulnerability - ComputerActive.co.uk http://ping.fm/RAjsC | Apr 15 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Google Updates #Chrome Stable Channel to 10.0.648.205, Mitigates Critical #Vulnerabilities http://ow.ly/4ASST | Apr 15 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !MeeGo sees interest from others after #Nokia shift - Forex Pros http://ping.fm/OQYUX | Apr 15 11:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bdesmet: RT @rrix I believe what you meant to say was "fuck you, fedora design and marketing" http://ur1.ca/3uspj #</rant> | Apr 15 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] We need !Meego to survive, along with !WebOS. Even !Opensource needs internal competition | Apr 15 11:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Design-team] Gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo .::. Size~: 4.6 KB | Apr 15 11:48 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Forced preemption most likely would hurt it. | Apr 15 11:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fitt's law my ass. | Apr 15 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell The White House And Congress: Unlock Science Research - http://bit.ly/eQGpkh great move to extend #openaccess | Apr 15 11:53 | |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: so there's one feature m$ ever got right and all it does is screw the user? | Apr 15 11:56 |
| MinceR | fits them pretty well | Apr 15 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Not Impossible Foundation - http://bit.ly/fDKY2n "non-profit organization comprising thinkers, dreamers, and doers." | Apr 15 11:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not Impossible Foundation: Who We Are .::. Size~: 5.57 KB | Apr 15 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Emerging nations built bit bypass round Europe - http://bit.ly/f1DHZz more straws in the wind #bric | Apr 15 11:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, You sound shocked :) | Apr 15 11:58 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yes, i find it shocking that m$ managed to implement something correctly | Apr 15 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | it makes them more money | Apr 15 11:59 |
| MinceR | making products that are actually usable would too | Apr 15 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 15 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | forcing users into using bad products is easier | Apr 15 11:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Controversial email fired off... | Apr 15 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quilting show at the International Center today. I get to be the driver, going to the local library to catch up on writing. | Apr 15 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Brian Masse was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/fvbIS4 | Apr 15 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Dennis Bevington was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/egNMX6 | Apr 15 12:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Pierre Poilievre was lobbied by TransCanada Corporation on Mar. 10 http://bit.ly/hZX6XI | Apr 15 12:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Rodney Weston was lobbied by Irving Oil on Mar. 15 http://bit.ly/gM3Spy | Apr 15 12:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Looks like #Anonymous is about to go on another rampage. I've woken up to an interesting morning. Hello Universe! | Apr 15 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] +1 ♺ @jpope: Must get !coffee. Need a #cupofcoffee. | Apr 15 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chalkahlom: Australia takes the lead in the world's hottest !chilli stakes.. http://ur1.ca/3usz5 1.46 million | Apr 15 12:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Yale Rolls Out 10 New Free Courses - http://bit.ly/fzZYj6 "Moral Foundations of Politics" - must be a short course, that one | Apr 15 12:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yale Rolls Out 10 New Courses – All Free | Open Culture .::. Size~: 60.13 KB | Apr 15 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sounds like a Samuel L. Jackson movie. ♺ @chemist: I'm on a plane full of fucking retards and 80s rejects | Apr 15 12:21 | |
| asdfas2wefw | Debian tartan: | Apr 15 12:22 |
| asdfas2wefw | http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails.aspx?ref=5936 | Apr 15 12:22 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Really MS has failed even at screw the user. | Apr 15 12:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: think of how often windows gets pirated. | Apr 15 12:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 12:25 |
| oiaohm | One thing MS did get right was the blue screen of death idea. | Apr 15 12:25 |
| oiaohm | So that when a system dies you know why. | Apr 15 12:25 |
| MinceR | it was their idea? :> | Apr 15 12:26 |
| MinceR | (not it being blue, but the part that matters) | Apr 15 12:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahahahahahaha! The Flyers lost. Go Sabres!!!!! :D | Apr 15 12:26 | |
| oiaohm | To reset the video card so it could be displayed. | Apr 15 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Yes it was their idea todo that. | Apr 15 12:26 |
| oiaohm | One of MS few true inventions. | Apr 15 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Mind you they aquired a person from digital that came up with the idea. MinceR | Apr 15 12:27 |
| oiaohm | So it was not a MS in house trained person. | Apr 15 12:27 |
| oiaohm | I don't think I have ever seen a invention from a MS trained person that was worth anything. | Apr 15 12:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 12:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: “Mike Magee, you will never work in this industry again” - Microsoft PR #quote | Apr 15 12:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing the podcast while trying to find a Gnome/Xfce mouse cursor package for Arch..... | Apr 15 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I agree 100% ♺ @corenominal: An interesting perspective of #Harmony: http://muppy.org/12 | Apr 15 12:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bdale I just contributed to the campaign to sponsor the 2011 Libre Graphics Meeting .. you should too! http://pledgie.com/campaign ... | Apr 15 12:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: Rest in peace Vittorio Arrigoni...Killed by ruthless murderers in Gaza.. | Apr 15 12:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Optical Lattice Clock (Patricia Daukantas blog): http://bit.ly/eZ2iM2 | Apr 15 12:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The optical lattice clock « Patricia Daukantas, Science Writer/Editor .::. Size~: 32.77 KB | Apr 15 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Solaris is the Edmonton Oilers of operating systems. Yes, they did have Gretzky once but now they're just shit... | Apr 15 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Iceland’s message to Portugal | Red Pepper blog | Red Pepper - http://www.redpepper.org.uk/iceland%e2%80%99s-message-to-portugal/ | Apr 15 12:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] It would be cool if I could send sound from my laptop #Linux #Fedora to mu #NS via Bluetooth so I didn't have to remove my speaker headset | Apr 15 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] FTP celebrates ruby anniversary (Register): http://bit.ly/dNThgV | Apr 15 12:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FTP celebrates ruby anniversary • The Register .::. Size~: 24.37 KB | Apr 15 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Drool!Neil Gaiman’s American Gods on HBO http://m.deadline.com/2011/04/playtone-options-neil-gaimans-american-gods-in-series-talks-with-hbo/ | Apr 15 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: See The World http://j.mp/fz1UBv - Ah, my daily fix is in - Thanks Nina! | Apr 15 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... That Kaleta goal was beautiful. :D !NHL | Apr 15 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: @fabsh I have to support Solaris, and everytime I'm ssh'd onto them I just wish it was Linux... | Apr 15 12:54 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, you'll get a kick out of this | Apr 15 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kroah.com/log/suse/tumbleweed-status-04-09-2011.html | Apr 15 12:57 |
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| DaemonFC | "Note, it seems that when any package is added or updated in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repository, LibreOffice rebuilds itself" | Apr 15 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | nice build system you have there :P | Apr 15 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What a save. :D http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabres-nhl/article393200.ece/BINARY/w620/weber15.jpg | Apr 15 12:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 15 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | fixed a bug in Firefox, you know what this means | Apr 15 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | TIME TO DOWNLOAD LIBRE OFFICE AGAIN!!!! | Apr 15 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | Apr 15 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | but don't worry, it's only like a gigabyte | Apr 15 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | this will only piss people off that are "bandwidth constrained" | Apr 15 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @lwnnet LinuxCon Lineup (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/438574/rss | Apr 15 12:59 | |
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| oiaohm | Its about 1/4 DaemonFC | Apr 15 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | (Or charged by how much bandwidth they use, or had plans to do something besides download the same LibreOfiice again that day, or....)) | Apr 15 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | LibreOffice is fucking huge | Apr 15 13:00 |
| oiaohm | http://www.xonotic.org/ You could download this. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | maybe not by the current standard ahem, where MS Office is now on a DVD9 | Apr 15 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Xonotic .::. Size~: 27.01 KB | Apr 15 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | but it's still massive | Apr 15 13:01 |
| oiaohm | Note xonotic is only version 0.1 and compressed its larger than 1g. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | Office Suites should not need extensions | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | ever | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i wouldn't even mind their build system, it's just that suse is a pile of suck | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | especially when it's to do something so god damned obvious as export a fucking PDF file | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: pdf export with libreoffice does not require extention. | Apr 15 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's because it is an extension | Apr 15 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh What surprised me most about Solaris when I tried it was how slow it was. BSDs are slightly faster than Lnux, so why is Solaris .. | Apr 15 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh .. slower? | Apr 15 13:03 | |
| oiaohm | PDF inport and pdf hybrid files require extention. | Apr 15 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | but they bundled it | Apr 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | No its not. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | import and hybred is in the extention. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's sad that PDF is still the closest thing to a document standard | Apr 15 13:03 |
| oiaohm | There was postscript before it. | Apr 15 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | and by standard, I don't mean ISO, and I don't mean wishful thinking like OOXML | Apr 15 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | I mean it looks the same everywhere | Apr 15 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it isn't dependent on a certain OS like OOXML | Apr 15 13:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hey, no one told me !identicurse automatically splits up long posts. That's pretty celever, but unexpected :) | Apr 15 13:04 | |
| oiaohm | ODF if they would just bundle fonts and not worry about legalities it would work. | Apr 15 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Techically PDF can cause a few legal problems with licensed fonts. | Apr 15 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | there's the Miguel de Icazas out there trying to legitimize OOXML even though they can't show me a single file that MS Office saves that anything else can properly open | Apr 15 13:05 |
| oiaohm | MS Office is not to OOXML spec. | Apr 15 13:05 |
| oiaohm | MS is down right unless at writing spec documents. | Apr 15 13:06 |
| oiaohm | That windows works with Windows of different versions is more good luck than good management. | Apr 15 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | their spec requires Windows functionality in order to work | Apr 15 13:06 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Apr 15 13:06 |
| oiaohm | OOXML Required bits from every version of MS Office to work. | Apr 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Including Mac versions. | Apr 15 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | the closest I've seen to anyone else implementing OOXML ala MS Office is Softmaker | Apr 15 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | and even that fails sometimes | Apr 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | libreoffice does quite resonable. | Apr 15 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Mind you they made something they call laugh OOXML todo it. | Apr 15 13:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] #Groklaw is looking for problems with the #DOI tendering process: http://is.gd/U09hV4 - please post links to evidence if you have any! | Apr 15 13:08 | |
| DaemonFC | OOXML is a bogus standard | Apr 15 13:08 |
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| DaemonFC | a red herring to throw people off | Apr 15 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | there's no office software that implements ISO OOXML, not even Microsoft's | Apr 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It was a red herring that is not working that well. | Apr 15 13:08 |
| oiaohm | More and more countries are backing ODF. | Apr 15 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | if Microsoft supported their own "standard" and were willing to give a real patent grant to other people that made their own implementations, then I'd say it was a real standard | Apr 15 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | but neither has or will ever happen | Apr 15 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FF@themadhatter @michaelgeist @Andyupdegrove | Apr 15 13:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Rich Text Format works well between word processors | Apr 15 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | until someone using Word 2007 or 2010 saves it | Apr 15 13:10 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: even if there was no hope of those different ooxml implementations to read each other's output? | Apr 15 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | and it shoves a bunch of crap into it | Apr 15 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | meh, ODF is already kind of like that | Apr 15 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It wasn't hard using setup.py, but yum install !identicurse is still easier, so I'm glad t o see it in !Fedora repos :) | Apr 15 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If only I could work out how to do it in Cygwin. I need more, or a tutorial, time forthat :) | Apr 15 13:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's is broken deliberately and other office suites implement different bits and pieces of ODF | Apr 15 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't consider it legitimate either | Apr 15 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | because they're both unusable | Apr 15 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | ODF is a little better because the software to read it is not $200 | Apr 15 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | but I still think it's bullshit | Apr 15 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Really Microsoft pushed the weakness in the ODF standard. | Apr 15 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Most of those weaknesses will disappear in 1.2 ODF | Apr 15 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | KOffice is really the only non BlOOoated Office that comes close to implementing ODF | Apr 15 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | and even if misses sometimes | Apr 15 13:13 |
| oiaohm | ODF 1.1 MS forced OOXML formulars for excel like stuff into there ODF files. | Apr 15 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | so you still end up with two suites that claim to use the same format | Apr 15 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | that really don't | Apr 15 13:14 |
| oiaohm | But really lot of ODF 1.0 programs just used what ever for the same thing. | Apr 15 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | and leave the user fixing formatting or downloading BlOOoated Office | Apr 15 13:14 |
| roy_ | http://twitter.com/faabodotcom/statuses/58831160247201792 http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58848698758742016 | Apr 15 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @faabodotcom: faabo.com - Articles of Roy Schestowitz - ZDNet UK (blog) http://sns.mx/KkcDy6 | Apr 15 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | even though KOffice is SO much nicer | Apr 15 13:14 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @FOSSpatents At least one conspiracy theorist is clueless enough to be a #boycottboy fan. Seen this really funny piece? http://bit.ly/ii94Nu | Apr 15 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 46.27 KB | Apr 15 13:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: The fixed formatting flex happens in .doc and ooxml as well. | Apr 15 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I think KOffice is pretty slick, and it's fast | Apr 15 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | really fast | Apr 15 13:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: between MS versions of Office | Apr 15 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Let alone anyone elses. | Apr 15 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | it makes me mad when II have to fix someone's formatting in it because they used BlOOoated Office | Apr 15 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I actually have about the same luck opening docx files | Apr 15 13:15 |
| oiaohm | open a docx with 2007 then 2010 | Apr 15 13:16 |
| oiaohm | And watch the party. | Apr 15 13:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO #Minecraft server should be back up. :) | Apr 15 13:16 | |
| oiaohm | Particularly if the document is complex in formating. | Apr 15 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, this way they sell upgrades | Apr 15 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | because 2010 ruines all the existing documents it opens | Apr 15 13:16 |
| oiaohm | ODF really is not that bad. | Apr 15 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | not a new trick | Apr 15 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | *ruins | Apr 15 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft had a half-broken OOXML importer for Office 2003 | Apr 15 13:17 |
| roy_ | The mobbyists are not happy about it... http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58853462594682880 | Apr 15 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | it almost never works right | Apr 15 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 46.27 KB | Apr 15 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield Unbelievable. Thanks for sending the link. That post is one of a kind. "Clueless" puts it mildly. #boycottboy /cc @verofakto | Apr 15 13:17 |
| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | Apr 15 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] From Roswell to Tupac, FBI opens The Vault | http://bit.ly/efCAkF | Apr 15 13:18 | |
| DaemonFC | I was wondering why they even released it? | Apr 15 13:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: From Roswell to Tupac, FBI opens The Vault | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.17 KB | Apr 15 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Blech. The BT connection dropped again this morning.., and Virgin Trains made a mistake and now plays ping-pong by snail mail | Apr 15 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | they use file format breakage to force upgrades | Apr 15 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | year after year :) | Apr 15 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Yep end users are dumb. | Apr 15 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Wait goverments are workign out its costly. | Apr 15 13:19 |
| oiaohm | That started the push for ODF leading to MS trying to invent OOXML to stop the progress. | Apr 15 13:19 |
| oiaohm | ODF has been slower because its been designed on a shared model. | Apr 15 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | My dad was bitching about the place he worked at (long time ago) upgrading to Office 97, which pulled in IE 4 | Apr 15 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | which was eating some of their NT workstation systems alive | Apr 15 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | so half the people there had 97 and others were stuck on 95 until their IT department could work things out | Apr 15 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | and they couldn't share documents because anything saved in 97 would no longer work in 95 | Apr 15 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | only Microsoft could take something as mundane as installing a web browser and turn it into reinstalling the operating system | Apr 15 13:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Also notice MS is up to there old games as well. | Apr 15 13:24 |
| oiaohm | IE 9 installs on vista and later. | Apr 15 13:24 |
| oiaohm | IE 10 installs on Windows 8 and later. | Apr 15 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Great. | Apr 15 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 you mean? | Apr 15 13:25 |
| oiaohm | No | Apr 15 13:25 |
| oiaohm | IE 10 is currently ear marked for Windows 8 only. | Apr 15 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | oh nice | Apr 15 13:26 |
| oiaohm | MS is not making enough sales. | Apr 15 13:26 |
| oiaohm | So starting to play the force update game. | Apr 15 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh, two friends will respectively precede and follow my talk at #bsw2011: Franco Roman and Andrea Resmini (@resmini) #itsasmallworld | Apr 15 13:26 | |
| oiaohm | problem is I don't see it working. | Apr 15 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | who the hell says "Oh goody! A new version of IE! Let's go spend $300 on a new Windows!"? | Apr 15 13:26 |
| oiaohm | Since its going to be hell I have to use firefox or chrome. | Apr 15 13:26 |
| oiaohm | Also IE9 has been auto isntalled with updates on vista + | Apr 15 13:27 |
| oiaohm | To try to make IE9 numbers improved. | Apr 15 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 15 13:27 |
| oiaohm | And its not working. | Apr 15 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't mean anyone will actually use it | Apr 15 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Really XP users still out number Vista and 7 users. | Apr 15 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh joy, even more crap I didn't ask for!" | Apr 15 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | true | Apr 15 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | and Firefox 4 runs fine on Windows XP | Apr 15 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | it also works on Windows 2000 | Apr 15 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | but not officially | Apr 15 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | IE is hardly an argument to buy a new version of Windows. | Apr 15 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | Not having IE is one of the best things about leaving Windows | Apr 15 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | how do they bait an upgrade with that pile of crap? | Apr 15 13:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Something for @jezra: ♺ @x1101: hey !LO check this out http://ur1.ca/3utb8 | Apr 15 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to #Microsoft Jack and Microsoft Florian I was made aware of this new piece which is accurate: http://ur1.ca/3utbk | Apr 15 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Other friends got the same type of defamation against them merely because they defended or advocated Linux. Such thinking is disallowed. | Apr 15 13:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The problem with IE is that they really can't ever change some of the bad things they've done with it | Apr 15 13:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I should be fair and add though, I know people who criticised #IBM and also got defamed for it. #Microsoft is not alone in it. | Apr 15 13:33 | |
| DaemonFC | Even Opera is free to junk things that no longer make sense | Apr 15 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft was trying to say that IE's close ties to Windows were a strength, but it's also a curse | Apr 15 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | being "part of the OS" really limits how much it can be improved without breaking programs that depend on certain IE behavior | Apr 15 13:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Root your samsung galaxy 3 with z4root !android http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/z4root-Download-110178.html | Apr 15 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz Thanks to #Microsoft Jack and Microsoft Florian I was made aware of this new piece which is accurate: http://ur1.ca/3utbk | Apr 15 13:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox seems to have done just fine being cross platform and integrating with the host OS | Apr 15 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | they beat Microsoft on all their own speed tests | Apr 15 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Infinite corporate power (a la Koch Bro) is deemed benign by all those who never tried to challenge it, effectively.Ex:Gore, Moore, Feingold | Apr 15 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IBM Launches Maqetta #HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight - http://bit.ly/fZ0OEp useful | Apr 15 13:38 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMzMg DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:38 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I think IE 10 will run on WIndows 7 | Apr 15 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's too new to drop it now | Apr 15 13:38 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: LOL. | Apr 15 13:38 |
| oiaohm | MS needs sales. | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | I also think IE 10 will still be really far behind Chrome, Firefox, and Opera | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | per usual | Apr 15 13:39 |
| oiaohm | I see two selling points for Windows 8 | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | so why should anyone care? | Apr 15 13:39 |
| oiaohm | appstore and ie 10 | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | there's threee choices that are better right there | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | drm store | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | and Idiot Exploiter 10 | Apr 15 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | Apr 15 13:39 |
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| DaemonFC | how can this not fail? | Apr 15 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably park myself on the next Long Term Support release of Ubuntu | Apr 15 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Now of course MS might change there mind. | Apr 15 13:40 |
| oiaohm | And allow both of those on Windows 7 | Apr 15 13:40 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't stay with 10.04 because its video drivers are garbage on my systems | Apr 15 13:41 |
| oiaohm | But you can 100 percent all those suxers with Vista are screwed. | Apr 15 13:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to Make #Google Good Again - http://bit.ly/gm3u0d a modest proposal or two #opensource #openstreetmap #swpats | Apr 15 13:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @seonapster online today before rest...only me http://seo.napster.web.id/websasdesigncom-cinta-blogger/ !debian !gnu !php !linux !edu ... | Apr 15 13:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Super! Patented Mesa Floating-Point Is Merged!: Here's quite a pleasant surprise to wake up to this morning: Ope... http://bit.ly/gxTWCI | Apr 15 13:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody IBM Launches Maqetta #HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight - http://bit.ly/fZ0OEp useful | Apr 15 13:41 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, no way is it going to land on Vista | Apr 15 13:41 |
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| DaemonFC | even if it's out a few weeks before Vista's cutoff | Apr 15 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | I still don't know why anyone really cares | Apr 15 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like IE 10 will have anything that Firefox doesn't already have now, except maybe more security holes | Apr 15 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | and lack of cross platform OS support | Apr 15 13:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz Infinite corporate power (a la Koch Bro) is deemed benign by all those who never tried to challenge it, effectively.Ex:G ... | Apr 15 13:43 | |
| oiaohm | Really the Floating point stuff stands a chance of getting a patent grant. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:43 |
| oiaohm | SGI is quite resonable. | Apr 15 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Apr 15 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think xorg-edgers will flip it on | Apr 15 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu obviously is frozen until October | Apr 15 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | so who knows what they will do | Apr 15 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Party UK manifesto launched - http://bit.ly/fP31hA "covers 3 main areas: Copyright and Patents, Privacy and Freedom of Speech" | Apr 15 13:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | Gallium really needs full OpenGL 3.x compliance at the least | Apr 15 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 2.1 is old | Apr 15 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | and lots of things either use 3, or are planning to | Apr 15 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | like KDE | Apr 15 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Really opencl needs work as well. | Apr 15 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Because blender I like using is going to be using it heavily. | Apr 15 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Elonex Announces Six New Budget Tablets in UK - http://bit.ly/hbB6WF from £119: nice price, but what are they like? #android | Apr 15 13:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'd rather just see them implement some modern-ish OpenGL | Apr 15 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if OpenCL ever gets in because I don't use it | Apr 15 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:47 |
| schestowitz | "It has occurred to me that several years ago extensive evidence -- including court material -- was collected to show coordination of defamation against Microsoft/SCO critics (Winfield, JamesP, W-E, MOG and so on). Now that more time is made available as some storms are over, might there be incentive in subpoenaing the culprits through courtrooms? W-E has no magic ammunition just because it's managed externally from Microsoft." | Apr 15 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, OpenGL 2.1 gets most of what I really need done | Apr 15 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unanticipated Security Risk of Keeping Your Money in a Home Safe - http://bit.ly/h2jOUU the unexpected #japan | Apr 15 13:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | but I can see where over the next year or so, OpenGL 3 is going to be a requirement for lots of nice shiny things | Apr 15 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:48 |
| oiaohm | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/GL3.txt?id=397e47868378c386c483fda94631597af6d58405 | Apr 15 13:49 |
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| oiaohm | Status on Opengl 3 development is quite well along DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | Chakra will probably flip it on | Apr 15 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Opengl 4 on the other hand. | Apr 15 13:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. - words of #wisdom | Apr 15 13:49 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but until they specify that they support GLSL 1.30 | Apr 15 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | lots of things will bitch and refuse to run | Apr 15 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | even if all the extensions they use are THERE | Apr 15 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 4. is fairly new | Apr 15 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 3 has been out a while | Apr 15 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Even having GLSL 1.30 a lot of things still will not work right. | Apr 15 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | it really needs to go in, like now | Apr 15 13:50 |
| oiaohm | You are needing GLSL 3.3 or latter. | Apr 15 13:51 |
| oiaohm | opps I dropped a 0 | Apr 15 13:51 |
| oiaohm | GLSL 3.30 | Apr 15 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 2.1 is sufficient to where most DirectX apps in Wine are happy | Apr 15 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | but that's not saying a lot | Apr 15 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | DirectX 9 in 11 years old | Apr 15 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | *is | Apr 15 13:52 |
| oiaohm | No its not. | Apr 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/71095326 | Apr 15 13:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 12:48:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thanks for posting that link, I had a little bit of fun :) | Apr 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/71095358 | Apr 15 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Unanticipated Security Risk of Keeping Your Money in a Home Safe - http://bit.ly/h2jOUU the unexpected #japan | Apr 15 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android has 350,000 daily activations per day now (2.5m/week). Boy, that's a lot of #Linux and #Microsoft still tells us nobody uses Linux. | Apr 15 13:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 12:48:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz BTW, did you read the Expedition Proposal? | Apr 15 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | c | Apr 15 13:53 |
| oiaohm | sections of 1.30 is required really to make them happy. DaemonFC | Apr 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz | What's that? | Apr 15 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter What's that? | Apr 15 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "@miked2003 - I dont think its a case of luck that he has not been sued. I think he has chosen his words correctly and, due to solid research, there are many truths in the matters he is discussing that can not be circumvented by the individual or company in question." | Apr 15 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 49.21 KB | Apr 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "Roy does a good job. In fact I often use Techrights as a resource when researching my own articles, Roy has an immense database, with links to sources all over the internet. It's invaluable when you remember something, but can't remember whether it was ZDNet or ITWorld that published the original :) He always links back to his sources, something that too few people do." | Apr 15 13:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] indie music store day "we have records only available tomorrow" wow, still sold on making stuff scarce, they're doomed to fail | Apr 15 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody Why #Google Should Buy the #Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, and it would solve so many problems ... | Apr 15 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] indie music store day "people like to show others what they own" except they don't own the music they "buy" in any form, it's licensed | Apr 15 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb indie music store day "people like to show others what they own" except they don't own the music they "buy" in any form, ... | Apr 15 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] GUIT-AR! | Apr 15 13:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/04/15/irc-log-14042011/ | Apr 15 14:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Learn to make open source music--Register now for a webcast with Adam Drew (@zylogz80) | http://bit.ly/fXZugA | Apr 15 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Logs posted for yesterday http://ur1.ca/3utfv we're getting back into the groove. Spent 2 days ago improving accessibility, yesterday: vids | Apr 15 14:01 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: wonder if that blog is an attempt to draw out responce. | Apr 15 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] #RedHat becomes cloud service provider http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/041411-red-hat-makara-cloud.html?hpg1=bn #linux | Apr 15 14:03 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: which one? | Apr 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | zd? | Apr 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | The author I saw before | Apr 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | He's pro-Linux | Apr 15 14:03 |
| schestowitz | But I have no idea who that is... | Apr 15 14:03 |
| oiaohm | That is my problem. schestowitz | Apr 15 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | "Classic Desktop has been restored. Changes like global application menus and single unified menus have been reverted on user demand." | Apr 15 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Apr 15 14:04 |
| asdfas2wefw | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703395204576024024258782758.html | Apr 15 14:05 |
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| asdfas2wefw | Yahoo Plans to Shut AltaVista, Other Sites | Apr 15 14:05 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Other point is that he is pro Linux but its not like zd to give support to other sites. | Apr 15 14:05 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically it feels Odd to me. | Apr 15 14:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its either a really good sign of MS strength becoming weak or some form of trap. | Apr 15 14:07 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Ie flame fight on there sites brings visitors brings money. | Apr 15 14:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've started to get a lot more reply spam on Twitter lately. It only used to happen when I used certain words | Apr 15 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu's Unity Still Crashes A Lot, Usability Problems: A week ago a discussion began on the Ubuntu development ... http://bit.ly/gdyFua | Apr 15 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GIMP 2.7.2 Arrives, But Still Far From Belated GIMP 2.8: Blender isn't the only free software graphics applicati... http://bit.ly/eH5AE0 | Apr 15 14:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] How would you feel if they informed you that Court filing services will stop at 14:00 and news reaches you at 15:00? Precisely: #WTF! | Apr 15 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] FTP celebrates ruby anniversary (Register): http://bit.ly/dNThgV | Apr 15 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM Launches Maqetta HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight (eWeek): http://bit.ly/fJFbzg | Apr 15 14:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really need to see the hacking scandal covered in more #Murdoch papers, or I'll have to conclude they're not a news organisation at all | Apr 15 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix: !Ubuntu's #Unity Still Crashes A Lot, Usability Problems http://ping.fm/iz2d5 | Apr 15 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @themadhatter: very kind, many thanks | Apr 15 14:26 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, but... | Apr 15 14:33 |
| schestowitz | This one is not a paid writer | Apr 15 14:33 |
| schestowitz | It's British bloggers AFAIK | Apr 15 14:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/trashbird1240/status/58877803797553152 | Apr 15 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @trashbird1240: @schestowitz: Dude, nobody uses that #linux stuff #sarcasm | Apr 15 14:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/71097149 | Apr 15 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Norbert Evenich (evenorbert)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 13:12:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And sadly I've never seen stats where Android counted as Linux. | Apr 15 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 2 exciting CC announcements: CC0 & GPL compatibility; plaintext CC & CC0 legalcode! http://ur1.ca/3utk1 http://ur1.ca/3utjy | Apr 15 14:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @clemsat after a while, I find !Gwibber 3.0 much more reactive than the older ones. It just lacks a thread/context view to be really ... | Apr 15 14:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "@evenorbert the "L" word is evil EVIL communism http://ur1.ca/02rtd [sarcasm]" | Apr 15 14:35 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 13:30:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz MoonLie spam on planet gnome: http://is.gd/JZkP9M #mono | Apr 15 14:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @_Goblin @AirborneDude501 @Amazonia_de_Pe @AndersonFRech @AndroidSecrets @arleisilva @AugustBecker0 @CiscoNetAcad @COnservAdorBR | Apr 15 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat's data grid would be built on *top* of JSR-107, not as an alternative to it (Infinispan blog): http://bit.ly/eO88Xp | Apr 15 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @Dan_Jacques @Dona_Abgail @DungaRei @ecowatches @emuparadise @ender2070 @fisl @fmgil @frmdrt @fun140 @funwithlinux @gabeiracombr | Apr 15 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @games24hinfo @GHANAWEBCAM @glynmoody @homembit @iKaciah @iluvpclinuxos @innRedBlueGreen @jasonbird2 @jgderose @julinho2 @Juninho_KNG | Apr 15 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Is Unity easy to use by new / regular users? Check this out: http://bit.ly/ibDWDv | Apr 15 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C releases draft for clipboard API (H): http://bit.ly/hmyF26 | Apr 15 14:39 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Remember the traps don't have to be just the authors doing. Just say I am not 100 percent trusting of odd. | Apr 15 14:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow, no #wikipedia article on the symmetric viability model? Let's get to work, people! #popgen | Apr 15 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @kennytsushima @LeonardNimoy @linuxmintcombr @luciouberdan @maddoghall @MaraStn @MarceloBranco @Margarete3801 @Margaritarosadf | Apr 15 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @mirgonkayser @mjasay @moneymatter4now @naughtyCherry88 @nihaohello @novacut @oblakeerickson @omgubuntu @opentechgirl @oscentre | Apr 15 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Some Ubuntu Unity usability testing results http://lwn.net/Articles/438678/rss | Apr 15 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] As a follow-up on my Unity tweet, also see what the users had to say about !Ubuntu: http://bit.ly/f81F1o | Apr 15 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Without the #Mono http://ur1.ca/3utp3 #novell #Netrunner #moonlight #microsoft #cptn #swpats | Apr 15 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Ubuntu Without the !Mono http://ur1.ca/3utp3 | Apr 15 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @ParallelsMac @pliniodearruda @RandomSpotlight @rbanffy @rcweir @Rickfer @rjbgbo @rksharing @rogawa @schestowitz @Sen_Cristovam | Apr 15 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter: Still no business model (Fortune): http://bit.ly/gEcI5K | Apr 15 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @siduxBrasil @sinaisix @strangemagicbus @thabalwell @TheRealNimoy @Time4Linux @TPO_Hisself @twibbon @twittandokiss @unhosted @uusoksa | Apr 15 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @vebersol @VirtualTweet @WebUpd8 @william_telles @WilliamShatner @YahooCanadaNews | Apr 15 14:54 | |
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| *MinceR wonders what all these 1 hashtag + list of nicks dents are about | Apr 15 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Extraordinary interview with Bradley Manning intelligence analyst http://is.gd/E5vvxp | Apr 15 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @clacke don't know exactly & don't want it to go there but if non-humans can't learn to play as equals perhaps that will be a defense. | Apr 15 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @webupd8 Quite an interesting range there actually. I'm with P11, too Maccy for me. Everyone ismeant to like OSX, but not all of us do :) | Apr 15 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JSR 107 and proposed data grid JSR (Pure Danger Tech): http://bit.ly/fRr7eR | Apr 15 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @clacke That would have been cool(er), you see a problem over what it is now? | Apr 15 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Looks Like Source-Engine Garry's Mod On Linux: It looks like Garry's Mod, the sandbox physics game built atop th... http://bit.ly/eG6Ml0 | Apr 15 15:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and Microsoft, this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4 #nokia #elop | Apr 15 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and #Microsoft , this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4 #linux #swpats | Apr 15 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] With a Massive Hardware Hack, Libyan Rebels Hijack Disabled Cell Phone Network http://bit.ly/ihO3Q8 #tpn #libya #anon #piracy | Apr 15 15:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using CC0 for public domain software - http://bit.ly/hdDJUQ interesting issue #cc0 #pd | Apr 15 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] MeeGo sees interest from others after Nokia shift (Reuters) http://lwn.net/Articles/438692/rss | Apr 15 15:26 | |
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| Ender_nothome | 3DS today ^_^ | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> There is a lot of unfinished business that will still be unfinished by | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> May 16th, not counting Novell and SCO. There is the odious task of | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> transcription of "Comes v Microsoft" exhibits. There is the Sony class | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> action over OtherOS and probably other things. | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >> | Apr 15 15:28 |
| schestowitz | >> You are right. But should we not wait until mid May before inviting | Apr 15 15:29 |
| schestowitz | >> people who leave GL? | Apr 15 15:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 15 15:29 |
| schestowitz | > No. We should not wait, but should make the invite again on May 16th. | Apr 15 15:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenOffice.org to become a purely community-based project - http://bit.ly/h0gGse "no longer offer a commercial version" (v @bob_sutor) | Apr 15 15:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Gabriella Coleman talks Education, Human Rights and Social Change | http://bit.ly/hjrhNx | Apr 15 15:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some new type of wiki spammers are now uploading spam images too. Very annoying. | Apr 15 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @cwebber 2 exciting !CC announcements: !CC0 & !GPL compatibility; plaintext CC & CC0 legalcode! http://ur1.ca/3utk1 http://ur1.ca/3utjy | Apr 15 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle licensing: just say no (ZD Net): http://zd.net/hFn7DE | Apr 15 15:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | just for fun I tried getting FGLRX to give me a kernel module for Linux 2.6.39 using some patches I dug up from Arch | Apr 15 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | no dice | Apr 15 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | not that I really care to go back to constant X freezes and such | Apr 15 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Books Will Become - http://bit.ly/gFrpkY lots of good thoughts & insights #books #ebooks #publishing | Apr 15 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat becomes cloud service provider (Network World): http://bit.ly/g36DnA | Apr 15 15:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, At least AMD doesn't show favoritism | Apr 15 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | their Linux driver is every bit as bad as the Windows one | Apr 15 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 15:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LiMux celebrates halfway point in #Munich - http://bit.ly/dF1hwQ that's the trouble with being a pioneer #opensource | Apr 15 15:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LiMux celebrates halfway point in Munich - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.5 KB | Apr 15 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fossil data enter the web period - http://bit.ly/gTzs1t #opendata for dinosaurs | Apr 15 15:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] OpenOffice.org to become a purely community-based project http://is.gd/Jc180u #libreoffice #lo #ooo #office #msoffice #odf | Apr 15 15:59 | |
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| MinceR | finally, good news | Apr 15 16:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't know | Apr 15 16:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: how so? | Apr 15 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The open source driver stack hasn't crashed me once | Apr 15 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: SCO is dead, SCO Unix lives on http://zd.net/gQSf5u And, new company CEO says no more #Linux lawsuits #SCO by @sjvn | Apr 15 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: It's official: Asia's just ran out of IPv4 Addresses http://is.gd/jtLCIj #Internet #IPv6 #IPv4 by @sjvn | Apr 15 16:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SCO is dead, SCO Unix lives on | ZDNet .::. Size~: 111.65 KB | Apr 15 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Oracle pulling the plug? | Apr 15 16:01 |
| Ender_nothome | http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/built-in-software/#/5 | Apr 15 16:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It’s official: Asia’s just run out of IPv4 Addresses | ZDNet .::. Size~: 134.42 KB | Apr 15 16:01 |
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| DaemonFC | FGLRX, it crashed X on random web pages loaded in certain browsers | Apr 15 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know why that is possible | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | but, it is | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: being community-managed is probably the best thing that can happen to a project | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Without Unity? | Apr 15 16:02 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: especially one that was recently in danger of being destroyed by Law Suit Larry's modus operandi | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | or cooperation? | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 15 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | surely you jest | Apr 15 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and #Microsoft, this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4 | Apr 15 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Nos llega un burofax de Promusicae... ur1.ca/3uu2b < #morrotienenloshijosdesumadre !eol | Apr 15 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Ultimate Ponzi Scheme http://is.gd/9o1WzK | Apr 15 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Using CC0 for public domain software - http://bit.ly/hdDJUQ interesting issue #cc0 #pd | Apr 15 16:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, This Unity as GPL 3 software is a sham | Apr 15 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | they have nothing to lose because they get good karma for it now and can still license it however they want to whomever they choose | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's nothing but a bunch of feel good crap | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:04 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i'm talking about OOo, though | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | BlOOoated Office is finished | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | SCOracle made sure of that | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | i don't give a flying fuck about unity as long as it tries to be a panel that doesn't support real tray applets | Apr 15 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | sure it might linger for a while | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | i simply have no use for such a panel | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | at all | Apr 15 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | but who cares about it? LibreOffice works better than BlOooated Office ever did | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | maybe if it existed alongside another panel, but i don't really see the benefit | Apr 15 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | even with the Go-OO patchset | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if LO can really be trusted | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | as it's managed by novell people | Apr 15 16:05 |
| MinceR | and the only agenda novell people care about is the m$ agenda | Apr 15 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's fine | Apr 15 16:06 |
| Ender_nothome | it is fine | Apr 15 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is backing it | Apr 15 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | they wouldn't back something that was being used as an MS trojan | Apr 15 16:06 |
| Ender_nothome | the worst novell could do is add OOXML support | Apr 15 16:06 |
| MinceR | how are they backing it, what are they investing in it? | Apr 15 16:06 |
| Ender_nothome | oh noes, compatibility with office | Apr 15 16:07 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: ooxml support is not "compatibility with office" | Apr 15 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | it has some basic OOXML support, it's good enough to open and save most of the MS Office documents you get | Apr 15 16:07 |
| MinceR | it's "compatibility with a "standard" m$ wrote but never implemented" | Apr 15 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't call it promoting OOXML | Apr 15 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | the support is still quite broken | Apr 15 16:07 |
| MinceR | pretending to support ooxml is promoting it | Apr 15 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | the only way you can really use it fully is with ODF | Apr 15 16:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ubuntuuser: #Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal Beta 2 Now Available http://bit.ly/gTtFu8 #linux #gnu | Apr 15 16:08 | |
| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:08 |
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| Ender_nothome | so openoffice promotes all the formats it supports? interesting | Apr 15 16:08 |
| Ender_nothome | also fracking retarded | Apr 15 16:08 |
| MinceR | my fault for talking to the troll. | Apr 15 16:08 |
| MinceR | bbl | Apr 15 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | BlOoatd Office has always had an OOXML export filter, they just didn't enable it by default | Apr 15 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | the import filter is unusable | Apr 15 16:09 |
| Ender_nothome | mincer, theres /ignore | Apr 15 16:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BP try to control research into Gulf oil spill http://is.gd/auA7O8 anyone surprised? | Apr 15 16:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Emails expose BP's attempts to control research into impact of Gulf oil spill | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 235.93 KB | Apr 15 16:09 |
| Ender_nothome | hey daemonfc, i backed you up but im the troll | Apr 15 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 15 16:10 |
| Ender_nothome | meh... | Apr 15 16:10 |
| Ender_nothome | After all - I'm Rob EnderMeh | Apr 15 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | don't worry about those Fosstriches | Apr 15 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | schestowitz | Apr 15 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | they enjoy burying their head in the sand and vilifying anyone who ever needed to open a .doc file | Apr 15 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 15 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah I stopped caring about the extremists, just trying to have a discussion | Apr 15 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | when I was applying for jobs I had to use the .doc format | Apr 15 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | I suppose I shouldnt have been looking for a job | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that will go over real well at a job interview | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | assuming it gets to that point | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | after making the interviewer go download an entire office suite to read your resume | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | ODF just isn't that "accepted" | Apr 15 16:12 |
| Ender_nothome | 'why did u sent it in txt format?' 'i dont support capitalist microshaft' | Apr 15 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | and their evil corporate zomgconspiracy!!!! | Apr 15 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | secret police! | Apr 15 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | QUIT READING MY THOUGHTS!!!! | Apr 15 16:13 |
| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | So, let's talk salary... | Apr 15 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | How many sick days do I get? | Apr 15 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | I plan to take all of them, as soon as you hire me | Apr 15 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle releases SQL Developer 3.0 (Inquirer): http://bit.ly/hIZBMj | Apr 15 16:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | and lay about the house in my underwear | Apr 15 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | drinking milk from the carton and watching cartoons | Apr 15 16:15 |
| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | Say, is there a casual Friday here? | Apr 15 16:15 |
| Ender_nothome | you remind me of wally from dilbert | Apr 15 16:15 |
| Ender_nothome | I have casual Friday :) | Apr 15 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "more than 91" http://is.gd/jt0eR2 what happened to "a small handful" #NoW #phonehacking #scumbags | Apr 15 16:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Phone-hacking investigation identifies more than 91 victims | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 82.99 KB | Apr 15 16:16 |
| Ender_nothome | I <3 dilbert | Apr 15 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Now if I get an emergency phone call, it could be my goldfish, the vet gave him a few days to live | Apr 15 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | What's your bereavement policy? | Apr 15 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:17 |
| Ender_nothome | hahahaha | Apr 15 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I see in your employment manual that you expect men to be "clean shaven", which is against my religious beliefs | Apr 15 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | A mixture of Amish and Voodoo, glad you asked | Apr 15 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | there aren't many of us | Apr 15 16:19 |
| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:19 |
| schestowitz | [16:02] <MinceR> schestowitz: especially one that was recently in danger of being destroyed by Law Suit Larry's modus operandi | Apr 15 16:20 |
| schestowitz | I have not read the article | Apr 15 16:20 |
| schestowitz | So is Oracle still funding the developers? | Apr 15 16:20 |
| MinceR | iirc that wasn't mentioned | Apr 15 16:21 |
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| schestowitz | [16:10] <Ender_nothome> After all - I'm Rob EnderMeh | Apr 15 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Taking Techrights to the Next Level by Adding Video and Covering SCO http://ur1.ca/3uu63 !techbytes | Apr 15 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle Coherence data grid software: http://bit.ly/flDcaY | Apr 15 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz | I was joking about how when you first came to the channels I thought you were taking the p* out of Enderle | Apr 15 16:21 |
| MinceR | and then you realized he's more like enderle than you thought? :> | Apr 15 16:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: in mysql, lik 90% of the devs are lost | Apr 15 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Sun bought mysql with about 500 devs | Apr 15 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Now there are about 50 in scoracle | Apr 15 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has had some intelligent people writing good code over the years, but most of them are now dead, retired, or working for Apple or Google | Apr 15 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | and all they get left with is Ballmer | Apr 15 16:22 |
| MinceR | wait, what? crApple has intelligent people writing good code at them? | Apr 15 16:23 |
| *MinceR didn't get the memo | Apr 15 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 15 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | a few | Apr 15 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Knocking which pieces to "leverage" | Apr 15 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apple got Dave Hyatt from Mozilla, he's not bad | Apr 15 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | on the whole they have shitty products, but even Microsoft or Apple have a few competent people on staff | Apr 15 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | that's why people like Ballmer and Jobs become CEOs | Apr 15 16:24 |
| Ender_nothome | schestowitz - no I saw your quoting my twitter tweets and you said 'meh' 'Rob EnderMeh' | Apr 15 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | to quash the creativity and stifle to flow of good ideas | Apr 15 16:25 |
| schestowitz | No, in -social I think it was | Apr 15 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Walmart has ipads now | Apr 15 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Contxt was remark from MinceR | Apr 15 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking at one this morning | Apr 15 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | $600 | Apr 15 16:25 |
| schestowitz | He said something about enderle about 3 days ago | Apr 15 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | you could like, buy a real computer with that | Apr 15 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | a portable one even, we could call it a laptop | Apr 15 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | and make millions of them | Apr 15 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: scroll u | Apr 15 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: scroll up | Apr 15 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Oracle Coherence incubator: http://coherence.oracle.com/display/INCUBATOR/Home | Apr 15 16:26 | |
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| schestowitz | BTW, Florian and Enderle share ideas and slime now | Apr 15 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | and they could run any application the user puts on them, not just what one old geezer on dialysis hand picks | Apr 15 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | this is the future MinceR, the FUTURE! | Apr 15 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | seriously, $600 for one of those things | Apr 15 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | at Walmart | Apr 15 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | this is just so wrong on so many levels | Apr 15 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | first it was ipods | Apr 15 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | next they'll have Macs at Walmart | Apr 15 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | if something is in the electronics section at Walmart, that's a good sign that it's not cool | Apr 15 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | it is mass produced | Apr 15 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | and you're not clever for having one, you are a conformist twat | Apr 15 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Don't use that word here, pls | Apr 15 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | k | Apr 15 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | it just makes my blood boil when I walk past the Apple display and people, or rather, these infantile creatures are gawking at some stupid hypepad like this is the world of tomorrow ride at Disney World | Apr 15 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | I cannot believe people can be this stupid | Apr 15 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Any way of reserving ram for x? | Apr 15 16:31 |
| schestowitz | So that it doesn't get crippled by swap allocation? | Apr 15 16:31 |
| schestowitz | This is annoying | Apr 15 16:31 |
| schestowitz | My system gets slow and not responsive | Apr 15 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | you can set your swappiness to 0 | Apr 15 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason for swappiness to be set higher than 0 on a modern system with plenty of RAM | Apr 15 16:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] The Messaging API Draft Published http://ow.ly/1ccqkw | Apr 15 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide Published http://ow.ly/1ccqkv | Apr 15 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] HTML Media Capture Updated http://ow.ly/1ccqku | Apr 15 16:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | the default setting just makes your computer take forever to respond after you are away for a while | Apr 15 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | that problem is not new | Apr 15 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | there's just people like cubezzz out there who will complain if Linux stops working on their 386 with 8 megs of RAM | Apr 15 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] No taxation without representation! A good idea? | Apr 15 16:34 | |
| DaemonFC | no taxation with representation either | Apr 15 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | yeah.... | Apr 15 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft never change, forcing people to upgrade by not making new apps compatible with older versions of #Windows http://is.gd/shVJCZ | Apr 15 16:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | How does daylight theft by quasi-elected bureaucrats hold up? | Apr 15 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | we're taking plenty of that | Apr 15 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get it | Apr 15 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to know what IE 10 will be like, just picture Firefox 4 and add a lot of bugs, security problems, remove WebM and WebGL, and picture it as Windows only | Apr 15 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | then ask yourself if you really care what it runs on as long as it's not your computer | Apr 15 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Before you install Windows Home Server 2011, RTFM (seriously) http://t.co/yf66lOd Me: Seriously twisted. Surprised they shipped it. | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Before you install Windows Home Server 2011, RTFM (seriously) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 135.34 KB | Apr 15 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Huge: Oracle announces openoffice.org to become a community based project. Dual licensing no more. http://piana.eu/openoffice | Apr 15 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doors opened at Openoffice | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 13.3 KB | Apr 15 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMzMw | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Ubuntu's Unity Still Crashes A Lot, Usability Problems .::. Size~: 20.49 KB | Apr 15 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | ha ha! | Apr 15 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | You use Unity! | Apr 15 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 15 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | "Some are confusing LibreOffice Calc as being a calculator" | Apr 15 16:44 |
| *DaemonFC is rofling | Apr 15 16:44 | |
| DaemonFC | "and the Ubuntu Software Center as being a recycling bin" | Apr 15 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | BAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! | Apr 15 16:44 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Ubuntu Mojave experiment? | Apr 15 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 15 16:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlopiana: Huge: Oracle announces openoffice.org to become a community based project. Dual licensing no more. http://piana.eu/openoffice | Apr 15 16:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | "No one was able to play an MP3 file on Ubuntu as they didn't understand the plug-in search prompt." | Apr 15 16:47 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | Apr 15 16:47 | |
| DaemonFC | "5/11 participants (P2, P3, P5, P9, P10, P11) crashed Unity during their hour of testing" | Apr 15 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | nice | Apr 15 16:48 |
| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/327b/ | Apr 15 16:49 |
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| Ender_nothome | lol | Apr 15 16:50 |
| Ender_nothome | funny but I wouldnt buy that | Apr 15 16:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Ender_nothome, How do I make Ubuntu One stop eating my RAM? Do I drag it to the big paper bag with the Ubuntu logo on it? | Apr 15 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | that is the trash right? | Apr 15 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | What is an MP3 codec? | Apr 15 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 15 16:51 |
| Ender_nothome | didnt know buntu one ate ram | Apr 15 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | oh nevermind, it crashed | Apr 15 16:51 |
| Ender_nothome | scary | Apr 15 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sad now | Apr 15 16:51 |
| *DaemonFC eats jono | Apr 15 16:51 | |
| Ender_nothome | http://dilbert.com/2011-04-14/ | Apr 15 16:51 |
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| jono | howdy DaemonFC | Apr 15 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | this is just too funny | Apr 15 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Oracle pulling out of OpenOffice. Surprised they didn't even wait a year for it to prove itself. http://wmk.me/gB4rKy | Apr 15 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle Announces Its Intention to Move OpenOffice.org to a Community-Based Project .::. Size~: 22.46 KB | Apr 15 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | jono, Unity has a fever | Apr 15 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | and the only cure is more cowbell | Apr 15 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 15 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I just love http://code.activestate.com Community for python code, Lots of user try to correct you code. | Apr 15 17:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sameerverma What will they think of next? http://bit.ly/rGHqI | Apr 15 17:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @webmink Oracle pulling out of OpenOffice. Surprised they didn't even wait a year for it to prove itself. http://wmk.me/gB4rKy | Apr 15 17:09 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:32] <DaemonFC> you can set your swappiness to 0 | Apr 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | I can't | Apr 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | I run some big-arse programs that take up too much room | Apr 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | [16:34] <DaemonFC> there's just people like cubezzz out there who will complain if Linux stops working on their 386 with 8 megs of RAM | Apr 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 17:12 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz is outlandish to modern computing, in a good sense | Apr 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz | How bloated is Unity? | Apr 15 17:13 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: I'm always on skype and sometimes I can try calling you if you have an account there :-) Thanks for helping out the other day, it seems like some people from Groklaw will cross over next month | Apr 15 17:14 |
| schestowitz | [16:45] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, The Ubuntu Mojave experiment? | Apr 15 17:14 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 15 17:14 |
| schestowitz | [16:51] * DaemonFC eats jono | Apr 15 17:15 |
| schestowitz | jono is a ROCK star, you'll choke on it | Apr 15 17:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What's Up With TransGaming's GameTree Linux?: At the beginning of January, TransGaming rolled out GameTree Linux... http://bit.ly/gkEqNt | Apr 15 17:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Torvalds Honored by Gaggle of Lawyers • by Susan Linton http://ping.fm/yvm9F | Apr 15 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LinuxCon Lineup Reflects Reach of Linux http://is.gd/8cnMgy #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows | Apr 15 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What on earth are Oracle playing at now? !openoffice http://ping.fm/MK8s9 | Apr 15 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Incognito Live System 0.7 seems like a more paranoid version of Ubuntu privacy remix? http://ping.fm/aoxKy | Apr 15 17:24 | |
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| Ender_nothome | schestowitz - another thing I noticed was that you asked me not to be political in here | Apr 15 17:25 |
| Ender_nothome | from the logs | Apr 15 17:25 |
| Ender_nothome | yet, you have laurel's crap showing up in here which is 100% political | Apr 15 17:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix: !GIMP 2.7.2 Arrives, But Still Far From Belated GIMP 2.8 http://ping.fm/eMN9h | Apr 15 17:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Werner Heuser: Droper - allows !Dropbox users to access and modify their synced files and folders http://ping.fm/kgdZt | Apr 15 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dell Launches SMB Storage Solutions — EnterpriseStorageForum.com http://ping.fm/EVp0T | Apr 15 17:29 | |
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| Ender_nothome | btw im voting for myself may 2nd | Apr 15 17:30 |
| Ender_nothome | ill spoil my ballot | Apr 15 17:30 |
| Ender_nothome | then no matter who gets in I can place blame on everyone else | Apr 15 17:30 |
| Ender_nothome | :) | Apr 15 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Lots of upside in a community-run OO.o, but I'm wondering how much dev muscle is lost without Oracle. Or are employees still contributing? | Apr 15 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @tante: http://ur1.ca/3utt4 My thoughts on #flattr after a year and the coming changes. We need more #transparency | Apr 15 17:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Are you using CC for your @Kickstarter project? Let us know! And check out http://www.kickstarter.com/creativecommons | Apr 15 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jackschofield but not everyone is a Microsoft zealot like you, Jack. You're fast to accuse others of what you did to Slashdot for example. | Apr 15 17:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who uses GNU/Linux in Romania (1) http://tinyurl.com/6ek7msh #linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #desktop #foss | Apr 15 17:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm I am thinking about running Ubuntu 11.04 for a while on real hardware, on this PC replaceing PC Linux OS, however I know I won't like it much, so maybe i'll just end up doing for a while on real hardware, and then putting Fusion Linux on I am thinking | Apr 15 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | either way though, the little things in PC Linux OS, that annoy me, such as not always just being able to play OGG properly, are starting to annoy me, so yeah | Apr 15 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | pluss the way they do Gnome isn't that good menu it comes to the menu, but yeah Ubuntu do Gnome way worse overall since 9.04 really, but with Unity at least it makes their Gnome patching into something differnet | Apr 15 17:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: indeed, but even more pushback there | Apr 15 17:44 | |
| sebsebseb | as a guy basically said on Masterchef Australlia ( nisshh land ) which I was watching this morning. As a guy basically said when was going to choose food to cook. A lot of choice (or to much choice or whatever it was) plays tricks on the mind, and you basically end up confussed. Then I though of Linux distro's and how I get like that now here and there, since I don't have a test PC, only really got this one to properly experiment with, so | Apr 15 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | want a distro that I think is good enough for what I want at the time, and easy enough to use, but it can be hard to choose. | Apr 15 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | anyone about? cubezzz Ender2070 Ender2070 | Apr 15 17:46 |
| MinceR | 172814 < DaemonFC> first it was ipods | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | 172822 < DaemonFC> next they'll have Macs at Walmart | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | 172849 < DaemonFC> if something is in the electronics section at Walmart, that's a good sign that it's not cool | Apr 15 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: the labels mostly do, i would have thought | Apr 15 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is brilliant. "Sick Of The Royal Wedding? There's A Bag For That" http://is.gd/TIskKM #BritishRepublicnow | Apr 15 17:48 | |
| MinceR | 172855 < DaemonFC> it is mass produced | Apr 15 17:48 |
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| MinceR | 172908 < DaemonFC> and you're not clever for having one, you are a conformist twat | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | i don't see anything wrong with this picture | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | crApple products -- that's uncool | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | crApple cultists -- that's what you find in the dictionary if you look up "conformist twat" | Apr 15 17:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR so what I typed above, any comments for that? | Apr 15 17:48 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't know what might break "OGG" in that distro | Apr 15 17:49 |
| MinceR | as for the menu, if you really want that, you can probably patch/install it | Apr 15 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] do-over :D Good afternoon !identiverse (you'd think I'd be awake by now) | Apr 15 17:49 | |
| Ender_nothome | sebsebseb whats up | Apr 15 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ final proof has been shipped! http://ur1.ca/3uul5 / cc @lxoliva @CreateSpace !selfPun !Inconstant Moon | Apr 15 17:51 | |
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| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: what I was saying above | Apr 15 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: or use the Mint Menu which is in PC Linux OS repo's now | Apr 15 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: kapman also lags is really slow in PC LInux OS, not a big deal really, but still something I don't like | Apr 15 17:52 |
| sebsebseb | oh and all those issues with choqok as well ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Apr 15 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #France Plotting to Kill the Free Internet? - http://bit.ly/g95vuA a meeting for little presidents, not the Little People #sarkozy | Apr 15 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ final proof has been shipped! http://ur1.ca/3uul5 / cc !selfPub !Inconstant Moon << do-over *sigh* | Apr 15 17:56 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: also this distro is a bit weird it seems, before on an update it installed sega dreamcast firmwire for a start! also uhmm I had both installed Nivida and ATI drivers it seems and such hmm | Apr 15 17:57 |
| sebsebseb | seems I probably have quite a few packages installed here, that I don't need installed | Apr 15 17:58 |
| sebsebseb | not sure how to turn compiz on in this one either | Apr 15 17:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Articles of Roy Schestowitz http://is.gd/8MaEVM #gnu #linux #foss #microsoft #software #windows #office #romania | Apr 15 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke Yes, I understand that if Cinderall had been by-sa Sisney would have been so bound. Except I have the greatest respect for Disney.. | Apr 15 17:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 51.5 KB | Apr 15 17:58 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Fusion Linux is quite tempting as well :D ,but I want to try out yeah Unity some how again, and uhmmm probably really Fedora 15 when it comes out or something maybe | Apr 15 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | uh choice indeed | Apr 15 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | and how it can mess with the mind sometimes | Apr 15 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | in this case Linux distro choice :D | Apr 15 17:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: good job I am only thinking about putting on a few for real, I mean there are loads of others I could consider as well | Apr 15 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke ...they have infinitely deep pickets and mountains of lawyers which have successfully dictated !copyright law around the world... | Apr 15 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Can #collaboration heal rising medical costs? | http://bit.ly/fD3026 collaboration #bcbs | Apr 15 18:01 | |
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| Ender_nothome | sebsebseb - I'd say why not go with Fedora? | Apr 15 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke ...including changing US !copyright terms to last 90 years past death of the author, and lobbying 4 !C32 in !Canada & #DeAct in UK | Apr 15 18:03 | |
| Ender_nothome | rpmfusion has all the codecs and proprietary crap they cant include | Apr 15 18:03 |
| Ender_nothome | two rpms you install to add the repo for it | Apr 15 18:03 |
| Ender_nothome | cake | Apr 15 18:03 |
| Ender_nothome | same thing you would get with Fusion Linux | Apr 15 18:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: I mentioned Fusion Linux above | Apr 15 18:04 |
| sebsebseb | already tried out Fedora 13 and 14 and yeah RPMFusion | Apr 15 18:04 |
| sebsebseb | wasn't really that impressed with Fedora to be honest, kind of shame after trying again after all this time | Apr 15 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Listen: Humpback Whale Songs That Swept the Pacific - http://bit.ly/gGEKlW these creatures continue to astound #cetaceans #culture | Apr 15 18:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I never leave commens in blogs for reasons I've explained before http://ur1.ca/02s6o but I was compelled @ exception http://ur1.ca/3utbk | Apr 15 18:04 | |
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| sebsebseb | well did 11 before from a Live DVD and in a virtual machine a bit, but well my first distro was Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 4 | Apr 15 18:05 |
| schestowitz | [17:25] <Ender_nothome> yet, you have laurel's crap showing up in here which is 100% political | Apr 15 18:05 |
| Ender_nothome | sebsebseb what desktop do you use | Apr 15 18:05 |
| Ender_nothome | kde or gnome or somnething else | Apr 15 18:05 |
| schestowitz | True, but it's copyright stuff a lot of the time | Apr 15 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: ,but Fusion Linux is like Linux Mint, but for Fedora, so yeah it looked really good from the review I read and video I saw | Apr 15 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | comes with way more stuff and yep :) | Apr 15 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | codecs by default and all that sure, but nice graphics by default it seems as well and so on :) | Apr 15 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I did, both on LinkedIn and Facebook - I know you don't own a Facebook account ? ? !" | Apr 15 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: I mainly use Gnome | Apr 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58934418429054977 | Apr 15 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz That's rich coming from one of tech's most bigoted zealots, but you Google well as a liar. What did I do to Slashdot exactly? | Apr 15 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | of course going with Fusion Linux would mean going for a distro with Gnome 2, it seems, which well | Apr 15 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | well in a way I want to use Gnome Shell more in some distro, and get used to it properly and all that | Apr 15 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | or even Unity for a while, so yeah Ubuntu hmm | Apr 15 18:06 |
| sebsebseb | on the other hand after using Gnome 2 since 2004, I still quite like it, even though there are little things I don't like about it in recent versions, because of upstream | Apr 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | "Rrright.... so to you, "bigot" means small vs big, but not big versus small. You fit the same conceptual model as terrorist states." | Apr 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58934418429054977 | Apr 15 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz That's rich coming from one of tech's most bigoted zealots, but you Google well as a liar. What did I do to Slashdot exactly? | Apr 15 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Ha | Apr 15 18:07 |
| sebsebseb | yeah GDM 2 for example, but in distro's such as, Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and Mageia, I can easilly use the old GDM anyway so that's not a problem there :) | Apr 15 18:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] shows how much I know, never thought about #antisemitism in !football before http://is.gd/ficjuf fascinating stuff, needs to be stamped out | Apr 15 18:08 | |
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| sebsebseb | in distro's such as Ubuntu since 9.10 yep forced into using it, but well KDM and so on are good alternatives there, oh and by default KDM is way better now, since the KDE 4.6/1 branding | Apr 15 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | and I still think the new shut down icon in Gnome is a complete joke | Apr 15 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | and that logout they maybe made worse, and well at least the new logout icon is still good | Apr 15 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: so yeah just little things about Gnome that I don't like really ^ | Apr 15 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | well Gnome 2, not sure about Gnome 3 really yet | Apr 15 18:09 |
| schestowitz | "@jackschofield you know very well what you did to discredit #slashdot as a whole, misusing your position in the Guardian." | Apr 15 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: I think what would happen though is if I put Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2 on which I am considering | Apr 15 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | i'll have it on for a bit, hate myself for putting Ubuntu back on! | Apr 15 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "@jackschofield you also ought to know that #Microsoft PR agencies intruded #slashdot to derail it. Someone who worked for Slashdot told me this privately." | Apr 15 18:10 |
| sebsebseb | ,because of you know how it's not going in a very nice direction, and as a expereinced user I so don't need it's training wheels | Apr 15 18:11 |
| sebsebseb | and then Fusion Linux, Fedora 15 or something to put on or something. altough I am thinking maybe 11.04 for about three weeks hmm, and even to clean install when the final comes out some time, if I put alpha 2 on. or uhmm do something good now, and 11.04 to try later. uh. | Apr 15 18:12 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: or get my PC Linux OS issues more sorted if possible, and stay on this for longer | Apr 15 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58906374255554561 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58906667890388992 BS | Apr 15 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield just tried to look up new comments below ZDNet #boycottboy article and it can't load now due to "technical difficulties" :-) | Apr 15 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield Now it loaded again. Looks like #boycottboy sent all three supporters he has to post comments there ;-) | Apr 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | New obsession he has now | Apr 15 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58909588610748417 http://twitter.com/rupertg/status/58918850183434240 | Apr 15 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @FOSSpatents I'm looking forward to the almost inevitable trainwreck as the ignoranti roll in, but @rupertg seems entirely unconcerned ;-) | Apr 15 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rupertg: @jackschofield I just don't like hanging a man before he's done the crime. Doesn't mean I don't think he's not going to! | Apr 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58933038314307584 | Apr 15 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @rupertg You mean something *more* than posting a stupidly clueless piece about a loathesome bigot? ;-) #boycottboy | Apr 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | To them, pro-Linux means "bigot" | Apr 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Pro-Microsoft=normal | Apr 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | The West uses the same propaganda | Apr 15 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Against us=terrorist | Apr 15 18:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera This is brilliant. "Sick Of The Royal Wedding? There's A Bag For That" http://is.gd/TIskKM #BritishRepublicnow | Apr 15 18:14 | |
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| schestowitz | "@rupertg the thing with @jackschofield goes way back. He basically pretends to be voice of reason whle discrediting opposing views like /." | Apr 15 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "@rupertg IOW, he's part of the problem the piece is about -- the problem with sites that go against PR/consensus being defamed" | Apr 15 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | "@rupertg and it's well known that in some people's minds, vs. proprietary="Zealot" and vs. Western foreign policy="Terrorist". Double-standards." | Apr 15 18:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Detailed explanation of why UMich library moved from CC BY-NC to CC BY last October http://goo.gl/TmRop | Apr 15 18:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter @schestowitz @rms @laurelrusswurm @appropedia @rlyehbob @glynmoody @michaelgeist @doctorow #FF | Apr 15 18:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter thanks... (you do know that @michaelgeist on identi.ca is really just a placeholder, as is @doctorow ... & both know better) | Apr 15 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The rationale for Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language (Ars): http://bit.ly/ebgUAW | Apr 15 18:26 | |
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| MinceR | rationale: "we didn't learn from java's mistake from which java has already learned" | Apr 15 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: maybe three weeks or so with Ubuntu 11.04, you know give Unity a fair proper try | Apr 15 18:28 |
| MinceR | i'm talking about ceylon though :> | Apr 15 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh it's fab-tacular! | Apr 15 18:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.37 and 2.6.33.10 http://lwn.net/Articles/438770/rss | Apr 15 18:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, PPA Now Available For Lucid Too http://bit.ly/dEiMSA | Apr 15 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Revival of Philip Glass/Lucinda Childs 'Dance' http://ur1.ca/3uuul Wish I could see it! | Apr 15 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ohcanadian No understand geek RT @tedsaliphoto Why R political parties avoid'n the techvote? #Netneutrality & !UBB big !elxn41 #cdntech | Apr 15 18:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] A short excerpt of 'Dance' by Philip Glass and Lucinda Childs, with the film http://ur1.ca/3uuur | Apr 15 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good Al Jazeera story: After WikiLeaks revelations, is Nigeria ripe for its own revolution? http://bit.ly/ei2fXF | Apr 15 18:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tell us if you're coming to CC Salon Palo Alto: Open Innovation w/Henry Chesbrough on 4/25. Free but RSVP req'd! http://bit.ly/dGwZKf | Apr 15 18:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] How to make Google good again http://www.h-online.com/open/features/How-to-make-Google-good-again-1228600.html | Apr 15 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The sexual selection song, courtesy of @NIMBioS! http://ur1.ca/3uuvg | Apr 15 18:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240: We all like to copulate | Apr 15 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RIM CEO Stumbles Through PlayBook Damage Control (InfoWeek): http://bit.ly/fgjpF0 | Apr 15 18:53 | |
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| asdfas2wefw | Brian Proffit's article is a nice one: | Apr 15 19:08 |
| asdfas2wefw | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/155141/lessons-learned-groklaw | Apr 15 19:08 |
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| A good story about the state of worker rights in the US http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/04/voices-right-to-work-law-brings-you-falling-wages-80-hour-weeks.html | Apr 15 19:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ISS - VOICES: Right-to-work law brings falling wages, 80-hour weeks .::. Size~: 39.4 KB | Apr 15 19:10 |
| places that run 24 hours/day need 12 hour shifts but workers usually go 4 days on 3 days off, if they have decent bargaining power | Apr 15 19:12 | |
| I'm not too surprised to learn that 12 hour, 5 day weeks eventually become 12 hour, 7 day weeks. | Apr 15 19:12 | |
| from the article, "Even though working all the time is a horrible way to go through life, those getting 70+ hours a week are often considered the lucky ones. With a substantial percentage of folks either unemployed for long periods or working part-time minimum wage jobs, the employers have set up a system where the worker who does nothing but eat, sleep, and work is envied." | Apr 15 19:13 | |
| nasty. | Apr 15 19:13 | |
| they have to work like that, and send their wives to work, just to pay the mortgage. | Apr 15 19:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 85 million downloads on 2011-04-15 18:12 UTC | Apr 15 19:14 | |
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| asdfas2wefw | http://aful.org/communiques/share-your-operating-system-bundling-tales-with-the-eu | Apr 15 19:20 |
| asdfas2wefw | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110415105752529 | Apr 15 19:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @MasalaCanada Elections Canada: Student votes valid, but special campus votes to stop http://ur1.ca/3uuze !cdnpoli !elxn41 > idiots | Apr 15 19:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Shrooms limit brain blood flow and connections http://ur1.ca/3uuzr | Apr 15 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Young bonobo may be expressing symptoms of autism http://ur1.ca/3uuzs | Apr 15 19:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] As much as I talk shit about my Toshiba, I've had it for over a year and the battery still holds a full charge. | Apr 15 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Allure of Gay Cavemen http://ur1.ca/3uv0g | Apr 15 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USPS accidentally issues Vegas Statue of Liberty stamp http://ur1.ca/3uv0i | Apr 15 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Arizona declares war on the United States http://ur1.ca/3uv0p #wtf #srsly | Apr 15 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/15/libreoffice-3-4-beta-1-available/ !libo !tdf | Apr 15 19:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @WilliamHoan After 5 yrs, Harper STILL hasnt produced a broadband plan & won't even discuss !UBB !elxn41 >> not to mention James Moore | Apr 15 19:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] All Languages Linked To Common Source http://ur1.ca/3uukg | Apr 15 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @atwaternc Atwater Village Neighborhood Daily out! http://bit.ly/gG4ILq ▸ stories via @laurelrusswurm @nickverreos1 @tastertotsla @jory | Apr 15 19:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys Kolab Groupware Server 2.3.0 has been released http://is.gd/pm8zHA | Apr 15 19:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: The rationale for #Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language http://goo.gl/OcTX4 | Apr 15 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange on the nexus of US foreign policy & big business (video) http://alturl.com/w8e23 | Apr 15 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, !PPA Now Available For #Lucid Too http://goo.gl/t2b2a | Apr 15 19:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Victor Palau's Blog: An !Ubuntu Adventure: The #DELL Latitude 2120 http://goo.gl/l4P8y | Apr 15 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: !Ubuntu App Developer Week – Day 4 http://goo.gl/WpjMq | Apr 15 19:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] did someone say ukulele? http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110415 #sip_and_click | Apr 15 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle: OpenOffice.org to become a "community-based project" http://lwn.net/Articles/438779/rss | Apr 15 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] 2tu.us/39k7 #granverdad !EOL | Apr 15 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Over half a million people have now signed a petition calling for US to end the torture of Bradley Manning http://is.gd/yxoBL7 | Apr 15 20:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FVWM 2.6.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/438781/rss | Apr 15 20:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] After all that malware-wrangling, the main conclusion is I hate MalwarePipeline (Limewire). | Apr 15 20:16 | |
| schestowitz | Hi, twitter | Apr 15 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for commenting in here and in the blog | Apr 15 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Jack and other ZDNet folks are not arguing over these issues.. | Apr 15 20:23 |
| schestowitz | And I'm stuck here at home with a mate, brb | Apr 15 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I think this thing started it http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 15 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58942449665581056 | Apr 15 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Is it one of your deranged bits of incompetence, like your Jakob Nielsen thing? | Apr 15 20:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945388048158720 https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945388048158720 | Apr 15 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz Your "opposing views" are all too obviously just a vehicle for despicable smears.That's why you have no credibility cc @rupertg | Apr 15 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz Your "opposing views" are all too obviously just a vehicle for despicable smears.That's why you have no credibility cc @rupertg | Apr 15 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eebrah ♺ @kemikali: The internet might have just become sentient... "The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it." | Apr 15 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Turning Journalism into Terrorism http://alturl.com/99jfu | Apr 15 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Was für demonstrationen in arabischen ländern? #Burka #jan25 #lybia #bahrein #egypt #arabicrevolution | Apr 15 20:26 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945824847175680 | Apr 15 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz Oh, it's your usual conspiracy theory based on no facts at all, then. Still, you can't miss any chance to smear me personally. | Apr 15 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Weak defence, he ignored what I claimed | Apr 15 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle Announces Its Intention to Move OpenOffice.org to a Community-Based Project http://lwn.net/Articles/438786/rss | Apr 15 20:34 | |
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| Microsoft Jack saying TR has no credibility? LOL | Apr 15 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 157 dents! | Apr 15 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ed @rateldajer wow RT @CGCguncontrol: Women 45% more likely to be killed by battering spouse if gun at home http://ur1.ca/3uva5 !elxn41 | Apr 15 20:38 | |
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| "I don't have a clue what you are talking about" he says. That's a good admission. Perhaps he should read some more and learn. | Apr 15 20:38 | |
| These old school journalist have some nerve to knock the likes of PJ and TR. They hardly cite references, which is a lazy habit from paper publishing. They have not gotten used to html and links yet. The web makes them look foolish and lazy. People can look up their older work and see how ill founded their poorly researched work was. Looking back at Groklaw and Techrights, people see that good research pays off. | Apr 15 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the letters is rubbing off my keyboard again... so rds are coming our eds | Apr 15 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy fv \zecdji/dxjj | Apr 15 20:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk when tempers flare it is always more dangerous when there are weapons. Rural folk gun tradition that is not necessarily a problem... | Apr 15 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh It's pretty much why i use kde. Our promo team doesn't shit on our primary distribution points. :( | Apr 15 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk though when my sister was getting a divorce from her gun owning hubby, it was a concern ... yet years before when they were happy... | Apr 15 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] woman who attempted suicide while pregnant accused of murder http://is.gd/q3q4Sb she needs help, not prosecution | Apr 15 20:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ... i gave him permission to take potshots at a plaster head I had sculpted in high school art; he blew it into plaster dust. | Apr 15 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Very interesting cable on Bahrain youth's perspectives on economics, politics & foreign policy http://bit.ly/gNBwbP | Apr 15 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Nothing happened, and after the divorce things were civil between them; shared children will do that, but it was a concern. | Apr 15 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Killing with your hands is more difficult than killing with a gun. Few years back a 5 year old shot and killed another 5 year old. | Apr 15 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | ok, friend has gone home not, now I can rebut the nonsense | Apr 15 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk We *have* gun control, one reason why Canada's homicide rates are lower than US; the idea of gun registry is to keep track !elxn41 | Apr 15 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Discouragement by Association http://ur1.ca/3uvdn I don't usualyl comment in blogs anymore, but... | Apr 15 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Discouragement by Association http://ur1.ca/3uvdn I don't usualyl comment in blogs anymore, but... | Apr 15 21:01 | |
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| schestowitz | OK, so I see more stuff that needs correcting in http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 15 21:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I haven't looked into it lately, but generally handguns limited, long guns much less so; used to shoot vermin & hunt & at gun clubs. | Apr 15 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk rifles are 18 and handguns 21, for clarification | Apr 15 21:09 | |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | "The articles are very well written and all sources for the articles are documented". Let's look at that. | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | First, "well written". In fact they are childishly written. He plays dumb games with the names. He never talks about iPhone or iPad--they are always hypePhone and hypePad. The BBC is MSBBC. Florien Mueller is "Microsoft Florien". And so on and so on. But if anyone calls him "Spamowitz" or "Glen Schestowitz" he complains bitterly about how his enemies are attacking him. | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Can you provide an example of me actually attacking these names? Like "Glen Schestowitz"? The childish comparison involving Beck was actually /amusing/ to me because I loathe Beck's opinions and even Fox 'News' had to let him go. I'm a liberal, not a Republican. | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Second, "documents". To be documented they need to cite verifiable THIRD PARTY sources. | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Like the Comes vs Microsoft class action site? Done that. It has thousands of exhibits. Microsoft paid Conlin to have the site nuked, but many people had already grabbed copies and made identical mirrors with download logs which help verify authenticity. | Apr 15 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | When I choose names like hypePhone and hypePad I try to make them funny, not insulting, and also a reflecting of reality. The FSF does the same thing (e.g. iBad, Swindle, Windows 7 Sins). | Apr 15 21:12 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:13 |
| schestowitz | His articles do have an impressive number of links in them. Most link back to earlier articles of his own. Try following those, and the links in those articles. It is like winning the lottery when you actually end up at a third party source and it supports what Schestowitz says it says. | Apr 15 21:13 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:13 |
| schestowitz | I link to over 100 external articles per day. | Apr 15 21:13 |
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| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Here's a good example. In this article, http://techrights.org/2010/03/17/rich-uncle-bill-explored/, he writes about Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. They both testified before Congress on the same day urging an increase in US spending on global health. He also notes that there are photos of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton sitting next to each other. | Apr 15 21:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Apr 15 21:16 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:16 |
| schestowitz | There is far more than that. If one follows the links and does further digging, it will become apparent. Did you know, for example, that the new speech writer of Bill and Melinda is Clinton's? I wrote a lot more about it than the above, but it takes patience to learn. | Apr 15 21:16 |
| schestowitz | I could provide links here, but ZDNet devours links that I put with the hypertext. | Apr 15 21:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I for one do not welcome our new GNOME overlords. http://ur1.ca/3uvfa | Apr 15 21:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Thx to the community for helping take the "Story of Linux" to 200K+ people! Keep sharing! http://bit.ly/gaY0Zp #linux | Apr 15 21:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Then, about nine months later, he writes this article: http://techrights.org/2011/01/02/vietnam-with-proprietary-software/. In that article, he cites the first article as showing "the special relationship between Clinton and Gates". Testifying on the same day in Congress and being seen sitting next to each other is a special relationship? | Apr 15 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Apr 15 21:20 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:20 |
| schestowitz | No. What you say is akin to claiming that just because Biden sat next to Geffen on some arbitrary date we can suddenly deduce that Biden is in Hollywood's pocket (with copyright policy). You use an anecdote to infer that it is an *isolated* example. It's not. | Apr 15 21:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ellison's Oracle washes hands of OpenOffice, reneges on CloudOffice (Register): http://bit.ly/flW7el | Apr 15 21:21 | |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303362404575580340735524682.html | Apr 15 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Clinton->Gates | Apr 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Next time he writes about Clinton and Gates and their "special relationship", he'll cite the second article, so you'll have to click through twice to see original sources and find out his claim is not supported. | Apr 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | There are many examples which you could find. Search Techrights to find external links, too. | Apr 15 21:24 |
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| beware of Zdnet bearing articles? twitter goes to look -> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 15 21:28 | |
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| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Here's another good example of poor research: http://techrights.org/2011/01/12/kinect-vs-move-and-truth/. He praises Sony for selling 4.1 million Moves in 2 months, and says it is beating Kinect. I invite you to do the research that Roy either didn't do, or purposefully ignored. You'll find Kinect did 4 million in ONE MONTH, and by two months was at something like 8 million. (Oh, Sony's numbers were "sell in", and Microsoft's were " | Apr 15 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | sell through". The former is how many have been pushed into the sales channel, the latter is how many have sold to consumers. I.e., Sony's numbers included stock sitting on shelves). | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Sony seems to have gamed numbers by channel-stuffing, much in the same way that Microsoft always done (and Techrights kept good record of that). If the Sony 'numbers game' fooled us, then we may have an error there, one error in a pile of 13,000+ posts (which may make the above nitpicking on being deceived by Sony, makers of rootkits and lawsuits against PS3 enthusiasts). | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | A final example: http://techrights.org/2010/08/26/aviation-and-windows-2/. He claims the crash of a Spanair plane was caused by malware. This is an outright lie. The crash was caused by the flaps being in an incorrect position at takeoff, because the pilots did not go through the preflight checklist. There was a warning system that should have warned them of this--but it was not a computerized warning system. | Apr 15 21:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | That seems like revisionism from you. It has been well established that malware caused it. | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | I need to correc them | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Because they may try to put that in Google under my name | Apr 15 21:29 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:30 |
| schestowitz | There was (possibly) malware on a computer owned by Spanair. That computer was at headquarters, hundreds of miles from the plane and crash, and was used to file maintenance reports. Its connection to the crashed flight was that if all had gone well, a day or two *AFTER* the crash, a maintenance report on that plane was due to be filed, and the computer was supposed to then notice that the plane had had the same problem three times in a | Apr 15 21:30 |
| schestowitz | short period (a problem unrelated to the crash), and flag for further investigation. There is speculation that this flagging would have perhaps failed due to the malware. | Apr 15 21:30 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:30 |
| schestowitz | That's beside the point. | Apr 15 21:30 |
| Ender_nothome | hahahaha | Apr 15 21:30 |
| Ender_nothome | green party won't be running in hamilton :) | Apr 15 21:30 |
| schestowitz | The context in which I wrote this post was a claim from Microsoft Florian (the lobbyist) that IBM was to blame for the crash -- a lie which he repeated several times. | Apr 15 21:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The rationale for Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/438800/rss | Apr 15 21:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk most people can't get hand guns at all. long guns I *think* you need to not have a criminal record, helps if you belong to gun club | Apr 15 21:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] My tummy hurts now. | Apr 15 21:33 | |
| schestowitz | "That's beside the point. There was malware there. The context in which I wrote this post was a claim from Microsoft Florian (the lobbyist) that IBM was to blame for the crash -- a lie which he repeated several times." | Apr 15 21:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: maybe, I don't claim detailed knowledge | Apr 15 21:34 | |
| Well, if people follow the links Jack has been fed by Microsoft's best PR miners, they will see that TR has done the homework required. | Apr 15 21:34 | |
| How many times has Microsoft Jack put the axe to TR? | Apr 15 21:35 | |
| Ender_nothome | twitter - what do you do for a living | Apr 15 21:35 |
| Is his attack new? | Apr 15 21:35 | |
| I help cure cancer these days, why do you want to know? | Apr 15 21:37 | |
| Ender_nothome | LOL | Apr 15 21:37 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:37 |
| schestowitz | I'll stop with the examples now, although I have dozens more (some hilarious, like a fairly recent one claiming that the iPad--excuse me, hypePad--has been a big failure commercially). | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Got more example? Go ahead. Don't entertain the audience with mythical ones. SCO said it had "mountains of evidence" that Linux was a ripoff of 'its' UNIX. Did it show these "mountains of evidence"? | Apr 15 21:38 |
| Ender_nothome | just trying to find out what a marxist does for the market | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | twitter: sort of | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | We have history with him | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Jack that is/// | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | He's chatting a lot with Microsoft Florian | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Part of the whole anti-Linux gang in Twitter | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | I challenge you to actually SERIOUSLY read Techrights for a couple of weeks. By "seriously" I mean read each article and do a good fact checking on it. Follow the links until you get to original sources. Check those sources and see if (1) they actually support what Schestowitz is citing them for, and (2) if they seem to be legitimate sources. | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for urging people to read it from the source rather than by hearsay about the site. | Apr 15 21:38 |
| yes, now their attention is focused on smearing PJ and you. | Apr 15 21:39 | |
| Not many people reading Jack will bother to read Techrights, sadly. | Apr 15 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | [quote] | Apr 15 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I guarantee that if you do this, you'll be posting another blog entry, retracting this one. | Apr 15 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [/quote] | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | This does not seem to be the case, does it? And I'll tell you why. Over the years we've had people who entered the IRC channels only to troll us. And you know where these people are today? They are on the channel defending us. They defected. They realised that they have been incited against a site which actually *does* defend their interests. You can go ahead and try comparing me to Beck all you want, but people who actually spend a | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | day reading me on Twitter/Identi.ca will see a stereotype mismatch. | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | twitter: Florian is only attacking me now | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | He even said so | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Now he can just concenrate on TR | Apr 15 21:40 |
| schestowitz | They almost killed all the sources which know what Microsoft really did and where to get the evidence | Apr 15 21:40 |
| Given the increased attention, I can help out by checking articles for typos if you like. Just email them to me before publish. I should be able to do this at night and let you know if I can't. | Apr 15 21:41 | |
| Nit pickers love it when they can stand on a "than" instead of "then", etc. | Apr 15 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: we do this by wiki | Apr 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | This way we can do a diff | Apr 15 21:43 |
| schestowitz | And see what's a good correction | Apr 15 21:43 |
| articles get a wiki automatically? | Apr 15 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | We use this page: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Work_in_Progress | Apr 15 21:44 |
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| schestowitz | We also will happily post any article that's relevant to us, written by others as guest posts | Apr 15 21:44 |
| schestowitz | If you want, I can repost the slashdot summaries of Microsoft FUD and all that | Apr 15 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've just posted more corrections in ZDNet.. http://ur1.ca/3utbk It's me, not a faker | Apr 15 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] my son is irked that the local cop shop is closed at four and not open all weekend. Apparently just realized we live in the boonies. | Apr 15 21:44 | |
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| schestowitz | Given that "M$" is replaced with something else ;-) | Apr 15 21:45 |
| bookmarking the works in progress | Apr 15 21:45 | |
| thanks! | Apr 15 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | I check this page along with wiki edits | Apr 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | We got lots of wiki spam recently, even accounts uploading image spam to the server | Apr 15 21:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChanges | Apr 15 21:46 |
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| Ender is silly. Thinks I'm a Marxist because he confuses ideas with property. | Apr 15 21:46 | |
| I wonder if he's even red Marx. | Apr 15 21:48 | |
| read, lol | Apr 15 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | Still can't believe I;ve created a zd account | Apr 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I never liked that site | Apr 15 21:48 |
| I hope you used a throw away email address | Apr 15 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: yes, he does that sometimes. He paints people "Marxist" if they conform to some things which I find reasonable | Apr 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz | But Ender_nothome is a clever guy | Apr 15 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I just don't agree with all the beliefs he subscribes to | Apr 15 21:49 |
| it is difficult to agree with nonsensical insults | Apr 15 21:49 | |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome and I argued in a polite way over the syndication here because he put some stuff in there which gets piped into here and our detractors would use against us | Apr 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Until an hour ago a friend of mine was here | Apr 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | He follows Alex Jones | Apr 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Apr 15 21:49 |
| schestowitz | But for me it was a chance to explain to him how I view it | Apr 15 21:50 |
| schestowitz | For instance, Jones promotes oil agenda | Apr 15 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Attacking climatologists too | Apr 15 21:50 |
| Alex Jones, the US is a police state guy? | Apr 15 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | And now he overplays the Japan situation to create a stronger anti-GE and anti-nuke push | Apr 15 21:50 |
| schestowitz | As though moving to coal/oil is trouble-free | Apr 15 21:50 |
| He's right about the police state. | Apr 15 21:50 | |
| schestowitz | Some things yes | Apr 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Some things exaggerated | Apr 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | And he breeds hate not with just info | Apr 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | He evokes some personal grief that incites people | Apr 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | So they basically weaken their own position | Apr 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Actually, PJ reminder me last night to use humour and stuff to get moral higher ground | Apr 15 21:52 |
| He's probably right about GE and nuke stuff. Fukushima is a fail that blows my mind. I used to work at a GE BWR. | Apr 15 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | When the trolls get vicious like Florian they lose the argument | Apr 15 21:52 |
| schestowitz | And people from the outside cannot take him seriously anymore | Apr 15 21:52 |
| schestowitz | GE turns out to have been the designed of that plant | Apr 15 21:52 |
| Fukushima has totally turned me off nuclear. Oil and coal are not answers. Wind and solar must be. | Apr 15 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | This I did not know | Apr 15 21:52 |
| schestowitz | But the episode we watched (I never watch it, but he asked me to try it) had a Professional from Kent Univ. | Apr 15 21:53 |
| schestowitz | And it was him who made the allegations | Apr 15 21:53 |
| schestowitz | *Professor I mean | Apr 15 21:53 |
| The reactors at Fukushima that I've read about are GE BWR Mark 1 with Mark 1 containment. | Apr 15 21:53 | |
| schestowitz | Then we watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8 | Apr 15 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Inside report from Fukushima nuclear reactor evacuation zone .::. Size~: 132.72 KB | Apr 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz | People who follow that whole prisonplanet/infowar thing worry me | Apr 15 21:54 |
| schestowitz | They get a very negative approach about everything | Apr 15 21:54 |
| I'm ticked off that Tokyo Electric is still saying 11% Chernobyl when it's more like 60% 70% by iodine and cesium | Apr 15 21:54 | |
| Ender_nothome | they've read history from outside of school | Apr 15 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Mashable - The Social Media Guide - http://mashable.com/2011/03/24/copyright-law-enforcement/ | Apr 15 21:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How the Web Has Changed Our Perception of Copyright Law .::. Size~: 92.32 KB | Apr 15 21:54 |
| Ender_nothome | the more things change, the more they stay the same | Apr 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I heard that GE uses its NBC thingie to promote nuclear and improve the image of it | Apr 15 21:55 |
| I'm sure. | Apr 15 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: yes, sometimes | Apr 15 21:55 |
| Ender_nothome | i dont know what the solution for power is | Apr 15 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: I put you back on our list thingie | Apr 15 21:55 |
| Ender_nothome | not everyone can hve niagra falls | Apr 15 21:55 |
| Westinghouse and GE were both big nuclear investors and used TV broadcast to promote it. | Apr 15 21:56 | |
| Ender_nothome | wind and solar are too weak to replace what we have now | Apr 15 21:56 |
| Ender_nothome | nuclear is too risky | Apr 15 21:56 |
| Ender_nothome | coal is too dirty | Apr 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I think repetition was the problem | Apr 15 21:56 |
| wind and solar are not too weak | Apr 15 21:56 | |
| Ender_nothome | yes they are | Apr 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | When Toby was bombarding with the same line for weeks we also removed him with his total consent (repetition acknowledged by him) | Apr 15 21:56 |
| Ender_nothome | you would have to cut back your usage - austerity | Apr 15 21:56 |
| I don't thinks so. | Apr 15 21:57 | |
| Ender_nothome | solar doesnt work at night | Apr 15 21:57 |
| Ender_nothome | you would need a generator or battery | Apr 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/ender2070 | Apr 15 21:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brandon Lozza (ender2070) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 67.09 KB | Apr 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: we'll do video shows soon | Apr 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | We use SIP | Apr 15 21:57 |
| Ender_nothome | nice | Apr 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | So if you too can put a pic up then we can enhance the thing, otherwise voice-only with tim's (and mine) face | Apr 15 21:58 |
| energy storage is not as difficult as you think, ender | Apr 15 21:58 | |
| Ender_nothome | I agree that these energy sources should be taxed, but I dont agree with what they want to use the money for | Apr 15 21:58 |
| Ender_nothome | they wont put it into replacement technologies | Apr 15 21:58 |
| like subsidizing nuclear, oil and coal | Apr 15 21:58 | |
| bad investment and they don't need the money | Apr 15 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58934021517869056 | Apr 15 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @jackschofield @rupertg Last year #boycottboy bashed me on his blog for RT'ing a ZDNet UK article. 2 days later he quoted one on MSFT debt. | Apr 15 21:59 |
| Ender_nothome | we need cold fusion | Apr 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | He tries to incite zdnet against me now | Apr 15 21:59 |
| it's an organized campaign, Roy. | Apr 15 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58945824847175680 | Apr 15 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jackschofield: @schestowitz Oh, it's your usual conspiracy theory based on no facts at all, then. Still, you can't miss any chance to smear me personally. | Apr 15 21:59 |
| they try to make it look organic, but Microsoft people get their marching orders in the dark | Apr 15 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | He only succeeds with Microsoft Jack | Apr 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Who is already poisoned | Apr 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz | But Rupert the chief editor defends the side that's right | Apr 15 22:00 |
| schestowitz | That's why Florian is now trying to turn him against me | Apr 15 22:00 |
| the SCO gang don't have PJ to kick around, so they are coming down on you. | Apr 15 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | I only wrote good things about Rupert over the years | Apr 15 22:00 |
| You only write good things in general, Roy. | Apr 15 22:00 | |
| that's why Microsoft hates you and will be sending these clowns in | Apr 15 22:01 | |
| *_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Apr 15 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | "@rupertg and in his typical fashion, Florian does fantastic lobbying job by inciting people against PJ, me, etc. I wrote positively abt you." | Apr 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: hi | Apr 15 22:02 |
| Florian's attempt to resurrect MoG, Bott, Enderle and other discredited people caught me by surprise. | Apr 15 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | We were just talking about the show | Apr 15 22:02 |
| Ender_nothome | its quite possible that the reason microsoft's goal is 'a computer in every home running microsoft' is so that they can spy on the entire popluation | Apr 15 22:02 |
| _Goblin | hello mate brb....just gotta run downstairs for coffee | Apr 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | twitter: he flasely accused PJ or attackign Bott | Apr 15 22:02 |
| Ender_nothome | it would explain why Bush dropped the case that would've split the company up | Apr 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | She searched and never saw herself even mentioning him | Apr 15 22:02 |
| Bott .... | Apr 15 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | So he's inciting people against her in vain, she said | Apr 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Bought | Apr 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | !google bought techrights laptop | Apr 15 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ed Bott: Bought by Microsoft | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/ed-bott-laptop-bribe/ | Apr 15 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Links 4/2/2011: GNOME 3.0 Laptop Debate, Unified Packaging ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/04/unified-packaging-arguments/ | Apr 15 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Ballnux on H-P Laptops: Fail | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/05/09/suse-linux-hewlett-packard-laptop/ | Apr 15 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Accuracy in Techrights | http://www.linuxine.com/story/accuracy-techrights | Apr 15 22:03 |
| Ender_nothome | Bill Gates family is tied up in the affairs of the elite families | Apr 15 22:03 |
| all I have to say about Bott is to advise people to look at what he did to Peter Guttmann. | Apr 15 22:03 | |
| Ender_nothome | Bill and Monsanto are like two peas in a pod | Apr 15 22:04 |
| I've got links to Bott's sins here, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/206959 | Apr 15 22:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Journal of twitter (104583) .::. Size~: 44.89 KB | Apr 15 22:04 |
| Ender_nothome | monopoly of OS's, monopoly of food | Apr 15 22:04 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ArriannaMarie/statuses/58971494788759552 | Apr 15 22:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ArriannaMarie: How the Gates Foundation Privatizes Africa: http://bit.ly/gaZX0N #BadAid #neoliberalism | Apr 15 22:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: How the Gates Foundation Privatises Africa | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.51 KB | Apr 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | twitter: you can put that in the wiki | Apr 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I'd post with attribution to TR readers | Apr 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Same for all /. content, power by sharing | Apr 15 22:05 |
| Ender_nothome | I hope this clears up any opinions people have of me and microsoft | Apr 15 22:05 |
| schestowitz | People can use mine free, with attrib. preferably | Apr 15 22:05 |
| good idea | Apr 15 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | I might just edit something small like "M$" | Apr 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | It opens us to trolling | Apr 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "Don't take TR seriously because it says "M$"" | Apr 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | They do that even if I type hypePad | Apr 15 22:06 |
| I should start migrating stuff from Slashdot to Techrights. I've quit using M$ because Google does not index it. | Apr 15 22:06 | |
| schestowitz | Even if I did "iBad" | Apr 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | like FSF | Apr 15 22:06 |
| but M$ is a valid term | Apr 15 22:06 | |
| schestowitz | Picking on minor things | Apr 15 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | People started using MSFT instead of M$ | Apr 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | "Ignore this comment because it puts dollar where the "S" goes.." | Apr 15 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | it's more mature it it shows they are only interested in their stocks | Apr 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Apr 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw writes MS | Apr 15 22:07 |
| Ender_nothome | same with APPL | Apr 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft writes MS, internally | Apr 15 22:07 |
| M$ shows they are only interested in money. | Apr 15 22:07 | |
| there's nothing "immature" about it. | Apr 15 22:07 | |
| Ender_nothome | yeah but M$ has to bow to its shareholders | Apr 15 22:07 |
| Ender_nothome | those shareholders steer the company | Apr 15 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] There's no such thing as playing #Urgehal's "Dødsmarsj Til Helvete" too many times in a row. That song is #blackmetal as it's meant to be. | Apr 15 22:08 | |
| There's only one sharholder that Microsoft cares about, Bill Gates. | Apr 15 22:08 | |
| Ender_nothome | there is plenty of immaturity about M$ | Apr 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | They steer strategy | Apr 15 22:08 |
| Ender_nothome | its been coopted by teenegers | Apr 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | And shareholder put faith in board of dits | Apr 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | So it's not as simple as just shareholders driving it | Apr 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | It's driven by sociopaths | Apr 15 22:08 |
| Ender_nothome | the 'im cool cause i call microshaft m$ crowd' | Apr 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Shareholders would struggle to overthrow these | Apr 15 22:09 |
| it's really as simple as Bill Gates and cronies | Apr 15 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | Unless some white-collar criminal like Icahn steps in | Apr 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | He uses money like some people use a pistol | Apr 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | He shot down Yang | Apr 15 22:09 |
| criminal rich help each other | Apr 15 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Activist investor" LOL | Apr 15 22:09 |
| Ender_nothome | if MSFT was worth $0.10 on the NYSE then do you think they would be a global threat? | Apr 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Like NathanM is an "inventor" | Apr 15 22:09 |
| when it's mutually profitable | Apr 15 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techbytes will use #SIP for video | Apr 15 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Nathan, what did you invent?" | Apr 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | NathanM: "a method for extorting company" | Apr 15 22:10 |
| Ender_nothome | LOL | Apr 15 22:10 |
| bbl, I have work to do. | Apr 15 22:10 | |
| schestowitz | NathanM: "it wasn't even just my idea. My mate Bill help me come up with this and funded me" | Apr 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | *Came | Apr 15 22:10 |
| Ender_nothome | Traul Allen ? | Apr 15 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Don't make him smile | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | You might see his beans... I mean, teeth | Apr 15 22:11 |
| Ender_nothome | he even trolled BillyG in his book | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Not trolled | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Did you read the story | Apr 15 22:11 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | The young napoleon wanted him money when he had cancer | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | The troll there was Ballmer (and college mate Gates) | Apr 15 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer is like that created from LOTR | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | "My precious..... Traul" | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | *Creature | Apr 15 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | LOL | Apr 15 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | Ballmer from LOTR | Apr 15 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | hahahaha | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | "Bill, is that money I'm smelling?" | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | BillG: "no, I just farted" | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Rich people don't fart | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They pass gas | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | They don't curse either | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Just in private chat | Apr 15 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Where Bill Gates uses the F* word a lot, according to him employees | Apr 15 22:13 |
| Ender_nothome | who was it that said they dont trust anyone who doesnt curse | Apr 15 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 22:13 |
| schestowitz | See rockefeller smiling like a doll in Chile | Apr 15 22:13 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube chile rockefeller airport | Apr 15 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport during ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGFWzDFjBKUw | Apr 15 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - David Rockefeller at Chilean Airport Confronted by 17 ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D71Y472oUdLk | Apr 15 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Re: David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTR4eGnwO9JY | Apr 15 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - YouTube – David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport during ... | http://www.ubim.org/youtube-david-rockefeller-confronted-at-chilean-airport-during-vacations-engspa/ | Apr 15 22:13 |
| Ender_nothome | Captain Yardley: I never liked you. You know why? You don't curse. I don't trust a man who doesn't curse. Not a "fuck" or a "shit" in all these years. Real men curse. | Apr 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/58994291867009024 | Apr 15 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @TechJournalist: @schestowitz you're not apexwm (author of the post) either are you? | Apr 15 22:14 |
| Ender_nothome | Falling Down (1993) | Apr 15 22:14 |
| Ender_nothome | wicked movie | Apr 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I never spoke to the guy, I saw him blog posts occasionally, but this one took me by surprise | Apr 15 22:14 |
| schestowitz | "@TechJournalist did you seriously think I have other online identities? That's one of the libel types about me. I never nymshift." | Apr 15 22:16 |
| _Goblin | right back | Apr 15 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe he fell for it | Apr 15 22:16 |
| schestowitz | This is Sean | Apr 15 22:16 |
| schestowitz | He should know better than to fall for it | Apr 15 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FULL VIDEO of the debate on #whistleblowing w/ Julian #Assange now up http://is.gd/4UghP9 | Apr 15 22:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Frontline Club - Events: FULLY BOOKED This house believes whistleblowers make the world a safer place .::. Size~: 34.76 KB | Apr 15 22:16 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: these claims are very easy to make.....very difficult to dispute.... | Apr 15 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ♻ @floeff LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/15/libreoffice-3-4-beta-1-available/ !libo !tdf | Apr 15 22:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 31.03 KB | Apr 15 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Security researcher @csoghoian describes #privacy issues with @dropbox and offers a few suggestions. https://eff.org/r.13A | Apr 15 22:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: slight paranoia: How Dropbox sacrifices user privacy for cost savings .::. Size~: 148.43 KB | Apr 15 22:21 |
| Ender_nothome | LOL http://dilbert.com/2011-04-12/ | Apr 15 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 27.99 KB | Apr 15 22:23 |
| Ender_nothome | later getting ready to go home | Apr 15 22:23 |
| *Ender_nothome has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) | Apr 15 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/59002316732370945 | Apr 15 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @TechJournalist: @schestowitz nope i didn't think so ...and thnx to your twitter feed, it's pretty clear what you post | Apr 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for following | Apr 15 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:16] <_Goblin> schestowitz: these claims are very easy to make.....very difficult to dispute.... | Apr 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | It's like the creatiinist debate | Apr 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | "Prove to me that God does NOT exist" | Apr 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Burden of proof for existence of Santa would be the same | Apr 15 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VOICES: Right-to-work law brings falling wages, 80-hour weeks http://ur1.ca/3uvnt silent injustice | Apr 15 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need a nap and a shot. Doesn't matter which order. | Apr 15 22:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ISS - VOICES: Right-to-work law brings falling wages, 80-hour weeks .::. Size~: 39.4 KB | Apr 15 22:24 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: agreed. | Apr 15 22:25 |
| cubezzz | does good exist? does evil exist? | Apr 15 22:27 |
| cubezzz | look at it that way | Apr 15 22:27 |
| _Goblin | yes. | Apr 15 22:27 |
| _Goblin | in a sense of negative and positive | Apr 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm tempted to post another clarification in twitter/identica | Apr 15 22:27 |
| cubezzz | Tandy 6000 exists, but you probably never seen that either :) | Apr 15 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.3-libre-lemote for !gnewsense !yeeloong now available | Apr 15 22:28 | |
| schestowitz | But saying a million times that I never nymshift can legitimise that bogus opposition to the claim | Apr 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz | So I decided to just respond directly to those making the erroneous claim | Apr 15 22:28 |
| cubezzz | not only does Tandy 6000 exist, but it can run Xenix | Apr 15 22:28 |
| _Goblin | "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" | Apr 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz | I think the Gary Stewart troll started it | Apr 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz | And some people pass around the lie he started | Apr 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz | He even put the lie in POST titles! | Apr 15 22:29 |
| schestowitz | brb | Apr 15 22:29 |
| cubezzz | you can't see EM radiation but you can put up an antenna and receive tv | Apr 15 22:29 |
| _Goblin | I think Ive been speaking to Gary in COLA..... goes by Fla###sh | Apr 15 22:29 |
| _Goblin | (censored to prevent him getting excited) | Apr 15 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] YouTube sends users to copyright school--will content owners have to go too? https://eff.org/r.139 #copyfight | Apr 15 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Attack AD #humour: http://ur1.ca/3uvo6 << looks pretty silly, doesn't it. !elxn41 !fed2011 | Apr 15 22:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube Sends Users To Copyright School: Will Content Owners Have to Go, Too? | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.75 KB | Apr 15 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - New Attack Ad .::. Size~: 120.71 KB | Apr 15 22:29 |
| _Goblin | he's not very quick..... | Apr 15 22:30 |
| _Goblin | or very good... | Apr 15 22:30 |
| cubezzz | _Goblin, in the olden days we used a killfile | Apr 15 22:30 |
| _Goblin | no way! | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: should we do a 10 minute segment introducing the whole video thing? | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Like recording now quickly? | Apr 15 22:30 |
| _Goblin | half the fun is highlighting their shortcommings for others to see | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Ep #40 | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Short one | Apr 15 22:30 |
| _Goblin | can't...I may be going on another show guesting | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | OK, no probm | Apr 15 22:30 |
| schestowitz | *probs | Apr 15 22:31 |
| _Goblin | I'll find out shortly.... | Apr 15 22:31 |
| _Goblin | its only that I promised I would be around at end of the week | Apr 15 22:31 |
| _Goblin | and they don't get together that often | Apr 15 22:31 |
| _Goblin | so I don't want to let them down. | Apr 15 22:31 |
| schestowitz | OK, I guess you couldn't expend 10 minutes, either? | Apr 15 22:31 |
| schestowitz | I just had in mind a quick hello episode | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | To test the waters | Apr 15 22:32 |
| _Goblin | ah video? | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | and audio too | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Only to wave hi and say a few things about the next episode | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | episodes | Apr 15 22:32 |
| _Goblin | yep...Im happy to do that however at the moment ive come out of the shower (insert mental image) I don't think me in a towel would be a particularly good "hello" vid | Apr 15 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | OK, manana | Apr 15 22:33 |
| _Goblin | well, not for tb | Apr 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | tb_with_webcam_sex.avi | Apr 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | tb_with_webcam_sex.avi .EXE | Apr 15 22:33 |
| _Goblin | I think Gary is chasing me though. | Apr 15 22:33 |
| _Goblin | he's quite the fan of the show..... | Apr 15 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Yes, we have the crazies after us | Apr 15 22:33 |
| _Goblin | I don't want to encourage him though as he has a rather vulgar tone.... | Apr 15 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Gary and the Microsoft fumes | Apr 15 22:34 |
| _Goblin | mind you...... | Apr 15 22:34 |
| schestowitz | He's quite the vulgar sight | Apr 15 22:34 |
| _Goblin | me in a towel could be no more unpopular than clippy | Apr 15 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Or talking dogs | Apr 15 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a 3D fighting game with chimps called Poo Fighters | Apr 15 22:34 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I tend to believe that personality is reflected in looks, if that is true then after reading Gary's posting style, I pity him. | Apr 15 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] The Eagles is not working for me right now. | Apr 15 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @smaffulli Tomorrow @rms speaking at Civil Hackers Union in San Francisco. Hope to see you there. Register here http://phog.ram9.cc/ !fsf | Apr 15 22:36 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: I just ignore him | Apr 15 22:36 |
| _Goblin | I think he's great.... | Apr 15 22:36 |
| schestowitz | It's not good use of time, either | Apr 15 22:36 |
| _Goblin | he's given me a real boost of enthusiasm | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Let hjim be obsessed with someone else | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | The ACCESS troll had the same issue | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I explained it to my mate who came over her earlier | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | he has 2 guys like this at work | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | They obsesses over his life | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Gary found Tim now | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | ACCESS troll found Ender2070 | Apr 15 22:37 |
| _Goblin | I like to engage him every so often to give me even more motivation in promoting a diverse computing environment. | Apr 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | So they have a "new" project | Apr 15 22:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux - Is It Still Standing Strong? http://ur1.ca/3uvoy "...Linux could very well be much bigger than Windows." | Apr 15 22:38 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: but he decreases your use of time for produtive purposes | Apr 15 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Also, it turns ill | Apr 15 22:38 |
| schestowitz | When you stop giving attention | Apr 15 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Then he'll curse you for attention | Apr 15 22:38 |
| _Goblin | not really...I look at it as R&R and also gives me some inspiration for posting. | Apr 15 22:38 |
| schestowitz | You ought to know what stalker do for attention, that's why girls avoid certain guys from from the get-go | Apr 15 22:38 |
| schestowitz | They have a fixation that turns pathological | Apr 15 22:39 |
| _Goblin | yeah, a little different in cyberspace and its completely on my terms. | Apr 15 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Cyberspace too | Apr 15 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Guys who send nasty email to the girl | Apr 15 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Love-hate thing | Apr 15 22:39 |
| schestowitz | I love you, but you hate me, so I hate you too and I'll make you miserable now.." | Apr 15 22:40 |
| _Goblin | oh I get the nasty email....if it had distracted me I wouldn't have written an article since 2009 | Apr 15 22:40 |
| schestowitz | ^" | Apr 15 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Something along the lines above | Apr 15 22:40 |
| _Goblin | Request-URI Too Large | Apr 15 22:41 |
| _Goblin | The requested URL /search... is too large to process. | Apr 15 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kogan goes Linux crazy with Android devices, Ubuntu netbook http://ur1.ca/3uvpl #Linux Linux Linux... *yawn* :-) | Apr 15 22:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kogan goes Linux crazy with Android devices, Ubuntu netbook - unity, ubuntu, tablet PCs, Ruslan Kogan, PVR, netbooks, Linux, Kogan Technologies, Android - Computerworld .::. Size~: 87.65 KB | Apr 15 22:41 |
| _Goblin | cool! | Apr 15 22:41 |
| _Goblin | never had that before.... | Apr 15 22:41 |
| _Goblin | I could be funny and say it was the result of searching for "Whats wrong with Microsoft products" | Apr 15 22:42 |
| _Goblin | I wont though.....I got it because I mistakenly pasted two pages of text into the search box. | Apr 15 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I'd put the Linux phenomenon really as threat No. 1." -Steve Ballmer, 2001 | Apr 15 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe work for the PR agencies | Apr 15 22:43 |
| schestowitz | They might need to squeeze in some PR about "Whats wrong with Microsoft products" | Apr 15 22:43 |
| schestowitz | "They're too good!!" | Apr 15 22:43 |
| schestowitz | "Whats wrong with Microsoft products that are pirated" | Apr 15 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Some SEO hire for the Vole :-) | Apr 15 22:44 |
| schestowitz | And Google gets 'clean' | Apr 15 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Try 'Microsoft corruption' | Apr 15 22:44 |
| schestowitz | And that sort of sutff | Apr 15 22:44 |
| _Goblin | oh...this is good......an email scam......probably the most basic yet........ | Apr 15 22:44 |
| _Goblin | Transfer money to your account. Proceed here. | Apr 15 22:44 |
| schestowitz | You'll probably get their solutions/products to address corruption | Apr 15 22:44 |
| _Goblin | thats all it was! | Apr 15 22:44 |
| schestowitz | !google Microsoft corruption | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - HOWTO: NOT Protest Against Microsoft Corruption | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/05/20/protest-against-ms-corruption/ | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - How to troubleshoot corruption in a Microsoft Access database | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306204 | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Recover a corrupt PowerPoint file - PowerPoint - Microsoft Office | http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/recover-a-corrupt-powerpoint-file-HA001116878.aspx | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft Corruption Perceptions Index « asbjorn.it | http://asbjorn.it/blog/2008/03/microsoft-corruption-perceptions-index/en/ | Apr 15 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Foundation's Collaboration Summit: A Recap http://ur1.ca/3uvq2 #linux #kernel #event | Apr 15 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | Heh | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | We're #1 result | Apr 15 22:45 |
| _Goblin | Good effort! | Apr 15 22:45 |
| _Goblin | !google Microsoft failboat | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - MS Admits PC Gaming Failboat - Evil Avatar | http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1894236 | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Maximum PC | Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/apple_sails_photoshop_fail_boat | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | CPU Reviews | http://www.cpureview.com/apple-sails-the-photoshop-fail-boat.html | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | Information Technology Leader | http://www.itleader.info/2010/09/06/apple-sails-the-photoshop-fail-boat/ | Apr 15 22:45 |
| food to fuel is unethical, link from RMS political notes -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/13/biofuels-targets-unethical | Apr 15 22:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/71126635 | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Biofuels transport targets are unethical, inquiry finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 271.63 KB | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 21:42:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't like the statement:"lack of fresh applications" & "windows being a more stable operating system" has this guy used .. | Apr 15 22:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/71126638 | Apr 15 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 21:42:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. Linux on a PC? | Apr 15 22:45 |
| failboat, I like that image | Apr 15 22:46 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: it is | Apr 15 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Ethanol? | Apr 15 22:46 |
| schestowitz | twitter: added | Apr 15 22:46 |
| yeah, they look at Brazil | Apr 15 22:46 | |
| _Goblin | twitter: :) | Apr 15 22:46 |
| I'm sad to see that ethanol is a bust, not so surprised to see Koch brothers making lots of money from it. | Apr 15 22:46 | |
| schestowitz | typical | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Like coke | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | They sell both side | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | *sides | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | The alternatives too | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | In many industries it's like that | Apr 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | They use other brands to pretend to be the anti-self | Apr 15 22:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxCon Lineup Reflects Reach of Linux http://ur1.ca/3uvqi http://ur1.ca/3uvqi | Apr 15 22:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Linux Foundation Announces LinuxCon North America Keynote Speakers and 20th Anniversary Gala | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 42.2 KB | Apr 15 22:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Linux Foundation Announces LinuxCon North America Keynote Speakers and 20th Anniversary Gala | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 42.2 KB | Apr 15 22:48 |
| schestowitz | And then people pay the very same company they try to avoid | Apr 15 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Lots of examples like this exist | Apr 15 22:48 |
| hijacking the opposition | Apr 15 22:48 | |
| "ethanol is a bust, better go back to perto" ha! | Apr 15 22:48 | |
| false choice | Apr 15 22:49 | |
| the better alternatives may be distributed generation, such as Lovelock's biowaste and carbon sequestering, solar and wind | Apr 15 22:49 | |
| distributed tech like that does not lend itself to monopoly and Koch like wealth | Apr 15 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | food for car | Apr 15 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we should try feed people with gas | Apr 15 22:50 |
| schestowitz | ^sarcasm | Apr 15 22:50 |
| distributed tech is also disruptive for Koch | Apr 15 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | Although MinceR might have other ideas, e.g. re depolulation | Apr 15 22:50 |
| The Yes Men Vivoleum spoof was brilliant, fuel from people | Apr 15 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | I asked some people last week if gasoline can be converted to edible stuff humans can use in the cells | Apr 15 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bodhi #gnu #linux 1.0 http://ur1.ca/3uvqu "here are a few more details about what Bodhi Linux is based on and what it includes." | Apr 15 22:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bodhi Linux 1.0 | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 100.1 KB | Apr 15 22:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Vivoleum? | Apr 15 22:51 |
| gasoline byproducts are used to make food, with bad health consequences | Apr 15 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | !google Vivoleum spoof | Apr 15 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Emily Murgatroyd | Viva Vivoleum | http://www.desmogblog.com/yes-to-the-yes-men | Apr 15 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Yes Men's Vivoleum.com Forced Offline : Indybay | http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/06/29/18431696.php | Apr 15 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Who Cut Off The Yes Men's Parody Website? | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070702/030557.shtml | Apr 15 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - For the Record: July 2007 | http://rubenortiztorres.org/for_the_record/2007_07_01_archive.html | Apr 15 22:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/59009108178771969 | Apr 15 22:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: @schestowitz let's look at the worlds fastest super computers | Apr 15 22:52 |
| schestowitz | indeed | Apr 15 22:52 |
| Hexane, for example, is used to extract oil from soybeans and it taints the oil. | Apr 15 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Fbreader is a definitive must have on any device with net (even if only at home) and a big enough screen. | Apr 15 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rick Mercer: Political Satire and Election 41 http://ur1.ca/3uvqo !cdnpoli !elxn41 // btw @rickmercer he's right, we DO look to you for news | Apr 15 22:53 | |
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| Sadly, the best use for petro is plastics, lubes and structural stuff but even these can have adverse health consequences without good regulations. | Apr 15 22:53 | |
| and, of course, drilling is a huge mess | Apr 15 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My program now devours 3GB of RAM (or more). Must redesign... | Apr 15 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | not to mention fracking | Apr 15 22:55 |
| yes, that too is nasty. | Apr 15 22:55 | |
| Here's a report from someone betrayed by oil companies http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/04/longtime_oil_industry_champion.html | Apr 15 22:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Longtime oil industry champion now calls BP liars, almost a year after oil spill | NOLA.com .::. Size~: 99.51 KB | Apr 15 22:55 |
| He's just beginning his journey towards understanding the people he used to trust. | Apr 15 22:56 | |
| RMS points to this too. "You are not being detained, you just can't leave." http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110412/01593813862/ice-redefines-detainment-wikileaks-helper-youre-not-being-detained-you-just-cant-leave.shtml | Apr 15 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ICE Redefines Detainment For Wikileaks Helper: You're Not Being Detained, You Just Can't Leave | Techdirt .::. Size~: 88.61 KB | Apr 15 22:57 |
| RMS tells people to stay away from the US based on stuff like that. | Apr 15 22:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.33.11 and 2.6.32.38 http://lwn.net/Articles/438824/rss | Apr 15 22:58 | |
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| schestowitz | twitter: similar in the UK | Apr 15 23:00 |
| schestowitz | With "permission to go" from cops | Apr 15 23:01 |
| schestowitz | You're allowed to walk away under some circumstances | Apr 15 23:01 |
| schestowitz | But they bend the law cause people here don't know the law | Apr 15 23:01 |
| schestowitz | They also trick them into speaking out needlessly and confess this way... possibly in cases where they are innocent but become careless | Apr 15 23:01 |
| The "don't touch my junk" recordings were scary because of the ambiguity and tricks used by TSA people. | Apr 15 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | So best advice, some lawyers say, is to always avoid cops altogether. There's nothing to gain by speaking to them. | Apr 15 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Unless you speak about a victim that's a loved one | Apr 15 23:02 |
| or have a crime to report | Apr 15 23:02 | |
| that's a good time to call the police | Apr 15 23:03 | |
| the TSA people, on the other hand, had worked the "don't touch my junk" man into a corner. he could not leave without incurring huge fines, so he had to wait for permission. That's terrible intimidation. I'm glad he's got a recording of things but he's going to suffer harassment for years, perhaps the rest of his life. | Apr 15 23:04 | |
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| cubezzz | it's getting rather silly | Apr 15 23:05 |
| cubezzz | there was that case with the 6 year old | Apr 15 23:05 |
| it's not silly, it's muscle flexing. | Apr 15 23:06 | |
| cubezzz | so if you go through the full scanner they don't do the patdown? | Apr 15 23:06 |
| your corporate masters are telling you that they will sell you harmful machines you don't want and grope your privates if you object | Apr 15 23:06 | |
| they only do the grope if they want to humiliate you or you "opt out" of your full body xray | Apr 15 23:07 | |
| The whole "papers please" mentality that has gripped the US is very police state. | Apr 15 23:12 | |
| This is correlated with wealth concentration. | Apr 15 23:12 | |
| Ah, -> " It’s a cultural thing and the Gates Foundation also spends over $1 per day on this “evangelisatio" " <- I think they have more money that a buck a day. | Apr 15 23:19 | |
| schestowitz | oops | Apr 15 23:22 |
| schestowitz | $1m | Apr 15 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Looking forward to this weekend, got some interesting projects on the cards.... | Apr 15 23:23 | |
| It's probably better to not get sucked into unfriendly sites like ZDNet. They can delete or modify your comments there and take lots of M$. | Apr 15 23:24 | |
| If you do try that, you might make a link in each comment back to a Techrights page containing your actual accounts on other sites. | Apr 15 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/68810643#notice-71127064 | Apr 15 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: I hope people can mentally correct this typo thing | Apr 15 23:25 |
| I'm sure they can. | Apr 15 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | Otherwise I may look foolish for it | Apr 15 23:25 |
| Obviously a typo, only small minded people will get hung up on it. | Apr 15 23:26 | |
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| A TR page with actual accounts, perhaps links to them, will make it harder for people to do what they did to Bruce Perens at Slashdot. There must have been dozens of fake Bruce Perens accounts, all spewing venomous and misleading comments. | Apr 15 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have never waited for an oggcast before, !tinap. H hour approaches. | Apr 15 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It doesn’t matter how you sing along just sing along, It doesn’t matter how you turn it on just turn it on | Apr 15 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh we gonna bounce Two times tonight, Five times tonight, Eight times tonight, Ten times a night | Apr 15 23:28 | |
| Next time I fly, I think I'll bring sweat pants and spandex. When I get to the line where I have to disrobe, I'll strip down to the spandex and a tshirt. If they ask me for an xray, I'll opt out, but I doubt anyone would want to grope me or see the need. | Apr 15 23:30 | |
| "You don't think I have anything hidden in there do you?" | Apr 15 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It's the newark airport boogie! | Apr 15 23:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/71128409 | Apr 15 23:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Timothy Redaelli (drizztbsd)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 22:28:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Java program? :P | Apr 15 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Octave/MATLAB :-) | Apr 15 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kronos: Mañana #FLISOL Bogotá http://flisolbogota.info Hotel Andes Plaza (Chicó Norte Av 15 N. 100-11) No se lo puede perder. | Apr 15 23:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP 2.7.2 - new official development release! http://ur1.ca/3uvvr make my day, GIMP! [pun[k]] | Apr 15 23:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mageia Beta1 in pictures | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 28.78 KB | Apr 15 23:36 |
| I wonder how much of the "Linux is teh too complex for average users" nonsense came from Novell people who went on to dumb down Gnome and now complain that "Linux is toned down to the Windows level"? | Apr 15 23:36 | |
| I hate dumb down, it's insulting and wrong headed. | Apr 15 23:37 | |
| people want the power to make things work and they want it to be easily revealed. | Apr 15 23:37 | |
| abeNd-org | most people could care less about computers, they just want to use them | Apr 15 23:37 |
| abeNd-org | if it is actually too complex for them, they will use what they know, again, they could care less | Apr 15 23:38 |
| if it is as stupid as windows they will stick with windows | Apr 15 23:38 | |
| they do care | Apr 15 23:38 | |
| they hate the upgrade churn, being forced to learn new stupid interfaces all the time and all the time and money Windows costs | Apr 15 23:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Typo correction: where I said $1 I meant $1m (in first comment). Big difference, some people may be able to mentally correct it based on context." http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ | Apr 15 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 76.66 KB | Apr 15 23:39 |
| People hate computers because of Windows | Apr 15 23:39 | |
| abeNd-org | sure, you can take the population of IRC & say they care, but compare that to the rest of the world of computer users, they don't | Apr 15 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, PPA Now Available For Lucid Too http://bit.ly/if2mbe | Apr 15 23:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, PPA Now Available For Lucid Too ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.04 KB | Apr 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Computers are harmless | Apr 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | People don't hate computers | Apr 15 23:40 |
| The lack of concern is a direct result of Microsoft propaganda. | Apr 15 23:40 | |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | No more than they hate their gadgets like hypePods | Apr 15 23:40 |
| abeNd-org | most of the rest of the world of computer users have no clue what "windows" is, they just want to surf facebook during work hours & as long as they can do that, they are happy | Apr 15 23:40 |
| hypePod does not run Windows, no one loves Windows. | Apr 15 23:40 | |
| schestowitz | They don't hate computers | Apr 15 23:40 |
| schestowitz | They hate stuff like computer viruses | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | it's not a computer problem | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | It's a Windows problem | Apr 15 23:41 |
| right | Apr 15 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | And it should be rightly called Windows viruses | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Tell the MSBBC | Apr 15 23:41 |
| I do, from time to time. | Apr 15 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | But don't hold your breathe, many former MS UK staff run it | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Computer virus? Then chuck the computer | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Go buy a new one... WITH VISTA.... 7 | Apr 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Upgrade treadmill acceleration | Apr 15 23:42 |
| then they find out none of their favorite software works with Windows 7. | Apr 15 23:42 | |
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| and that they have to buy a new version of that too | Apr 15 23:42 | |
| the "refresh cycle" | Apr 15 23:43 | |
| it's not working so well for them these days | Apr 15 23:43 | |
| people figured it out | Apr 15 23:43 | |
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| abeNd-org | so far I have only run into a few programs that no longer run in win7 with my customers, & at that they are usually old ones where the company no longer exists | Apr 15 23:44 |
| abeNd-org | so there is no linux or mac version either | Apr 15 23:44 |
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| see my Windows 7 fail video collection, where link to lots of YouTube user complaints. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/234671 | Apr 15 23:45 | |
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| Non free software burns old software and hardware, that's the business model. | Apr 15 23:46 | |
| There are lots and lots of IE 6 specific programs out there that business needs to keep using. | Apr 15 23:46 | |
| They don't work with updated XP, let alone Vista or Vista 7. | Apr 15 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ "You need to read the link you cited, http://techrights.org/2010/08/26/aviation-and-windows-2/ , more carefully, as well as consider the external sources. Put the burden of proof on the right sources as your allegation is misplaced." | Apr 15 23:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 77.83 KB | Apr 15 23:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt GNU/Linux After Spanair Findings | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.81 KB | Apr 15 23:47 |
| At that rate, the user is better off moving to GNU/Linux and running the old Windows crap in Virtual Box. | Apr 15 23:48 | |
| cubezzz | twitter, you can always hang out in #classiccmp :) | Apr 15 23:48 |
| thanks, I might one day. | Apr 15 23:49 | |
| cubezzz | those folks make me look modern | Apr 15 23:49 |
| doxbox rocks | Apr 15 23:50 | |
| schestowitz | I've just realised there's another lie spread by the anti-FOSS trolls | Apr 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | They say I'm "afraid" of going to events | Apr 15 23:50 |
| heh! | Apr 15 23:50 | |
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| schestowitz | They links to out-of-context remark about Novell/partners inviting me as BoycottNovell author to a conference, which I see no reason to attend | Apr 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | They try to put the "paranoid" label on people they dislike | Apr 15 23:51 |
| schestowitz | They (MOG+SCO) tried that against PJ | Apr 15 23:51 |
| How else can they explain the energy of your efforts other than to call you crazy? | Apr 15 23:51 | |
| cubezzz | classic as in 1909 classic: | Apr 15 23:51 |
| cubezzz | http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/atq/2325583852.html | Apr 15 23:51 |
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| It would not do to say that you are simply offended by lies and love free software. | Apr 15 23:52 | |
| that free software advocates are simply trying to share something good with people | Apr 15 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | I will post Daily Links soon | Apr 15 23:52 |
| cubezzz | you have to admit, the pre-windows era of computing can be appealing | Apr 15 23:53 |
| schestowitz | If I was crazy, I'd not manage to go along with 2 simultaneous jobs plus a site over so many years | Apr 15 23:53 |
| they would rather make free software people into villains, bitter and blinded by the success of truth, the American Way and other stuff non free software people claim to represent | Apr 15 23:53 | |
| schestowitz | So people hopefully don't need some public rebuttal to that "paranoid" smar | Apr 15 23:53 |
| schestowitz | In fact, it's one reason why _Goblin and I need to do video too | Apr 15 23:54 |
| schestowitz | To counter the whole suggestion of pathology or whatever | Apr 15 23:54 |
| yes, that's a good idea | Apr 15 23:54 | |
| schestowitz | Pj did several audio things | Apr 15 23:54 |
| schestowitz | No video/image | Apr 15 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Maybe she doesn't want to give appearance/age away | Apr 15 23:54 |
| schestowitz | And they annoy her to dare her to do so | Apr 15 23:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Starting to like Megadeth. Nice hockey music.... :D | Apr 15 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.33.11-libre1 and 2.6.32.38-libre2 sources now available | Apr 15 23:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Show youself or you dont' EXIST!!" | Apr 15 23:54 |
| spending money to be harassed by Novell asses at some corporate event is not such a good idea. | Apr 15 23:54 | |
| schestowitz | And then they can start stalking her again | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Or do the anti-RMS trick | Apr 15 23:55 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I'm not sure if I exist or not | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ingore what RMS says" | Apr 15 23:55 |
| _Goblin | what is existence anyway? | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | "Cause he has a beard" | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | "He looks disgusting" | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | "Look what he does with his toe" | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | "Don't listen to him" | Apr 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | RMS = looks like communism | Apr 15 23:55 |
| that stuff, sadly, is effective | Apr 15 23:55 | |
| schestowitz | All intended to avoid people from listening to his message | Apr 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | The /, trolls do that a lot | Apr 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | /. | Apr 15 23:56 |
| right | Apr 15 23:56 | |
| cubezzz | I tried to find the 80's RMS communism remarks and then when I tried to find it, it seemed to be gone | Apr 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | "RMS will eat your kids" | Apr 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | "Stay away from RMS, he's a lunatic..." | Apr 15 23:56 |
| _Goblin | and your family pet | Apr 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | "You don't want to be associated with zealots" | Apr 15 23:56 |
| they push it onto young and inexperienced people who are eager to fit in. Microsoft knows their targets and victims well. | Apr 15 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | Then people listen to him and actually say, "hang on a minute, he's clever and nice" | Apr 15 23:57 |
| very clever, but it was his writing that won me over. | Apr 15 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | Interviewers apologise to him as if they harass him or as though he's anti-social by their expectations | Apr 15 23:57 |
| young programmers don't have time to read gnu.org philosophy tracts | Apr 15 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | I once saw in Digg suggestions that RMS was pro-pedophilia | Apr 15 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.18 Adds Support For XI2 Raw Mouse Events: Following last week's release of the stable Wine 1.2.3, it's ... http://bit.ly/hPxIh2 | Apr 15 23:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Wine 1.3.18 Adds Support For XI2 Raw Mouse Events .::. Size~: 16.89 KB | Apr 15 23:58 |
| schestowitz | This one I remember... | Apr 15 23:58 |
| schestowitz | ACCESS troll painted him as anti-women | Apr 15 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Some portray him as gay | Apr 15 23:58 |
| always something nasty | Apr 15 23:58 | |
| schestowitz | some as wominiser | Apr 15 23:58 |
| schestowitz | They can't seem to decide | Apr 15 23:59 |
| schestowitz | !google us military wikipedia castro transvestite | Apr 15 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - LGBT movements in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_movements_in_the_United_States | Apr 15 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - San Francisco Pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Pride | Apr 15 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Theresa Sparks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Sparks | Apr 15 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cuban Communist Party congress looks to future - Worldnews.com | http://article.wn.com/view/2011/04/13/Cuban_Communist_Party_congress_looks_to_future_8/ | Apr 15 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Can't find it offhand | Apr 15 23:59 |
| Someone at Forbes tried to paint him as an "Old Testament prophet" | Apr 15 23:59 | |
| That one backfired. | Apr 15 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | They use the same HBGary-like tactics to denounce world leaders | Apr 15 23:59 |
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