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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just spent about 5 hours on #SIP with @openbytes preparing settings for video versions of future !techbytes shows. All done & tested.Apr 15 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks lays bare the extent of US-Israeli relations | Jewish Chronical http://is.gd/pt5LVz http://bit.ly/gYBFnsApr 15 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks in the spotlight at the National Media Reform Conference http://is.gd/ft6Uef http://bit.ly/hwKmV5Apr 15 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @seantorrie Guelph students say "surprise, we are voting" Harper reply to students, "surprise, you are not" http://ur1.ca/3uo4j !elxn41Apr 15 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GuelphMercury - Conservatives ask Elections Canada to nullify votes... .::. Size~: 50.93 KBApr 15 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat's Java cache move sparks spec spat (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/g5uNhuApr 15 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's Java cache move sparks standards spat | Application Development - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 94.71 KBApr 15 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] V. 3 - You Can't Go #GNOME Again http://ur1.ca/3uo61 But: #Unity environment in good shape, on track for #Ubuntu 11.04 http://ur1.ca/3uo7dApr 15 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "beacon of hope" is clearly another term of "snake oil" in #Labour dictionaries http://is.gd/KLAj61 #politicsApr 15 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: V. 3 - You Can't Go GNOME Again .::. Size~: 57.73 KBApr 15 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unity environment in good shape, on track for Ubuntu 11.04 .::. Size~: 33.05 KBApr 15 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Vote 2011: Labour promises Wales a 'beacon of hope' .::. Size~: 71.98 KBApr 15 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 15: Back in the game! http://ur1.ca/3uo93 #redhat #gnu #linuxApr 15 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Fedora 15: Back in the game! .::. Size~: 21.63 KBApr 15 00:31
DaemonFCheh, I may buy the third humble bundle nowApr 15 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' Beta 2 Released http://ur1.ca/3uob3Apr 15 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' Beta 2 Released ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 114.26 KBApr 15 00:35
DaemonFCone of the games did something stupid that caused it not to run on the free driversApr 15 00:35
DaemonFCit referred to a GLX extension as its vendor name and not the proper finalized extension name, which Gallium already supportedApr 15 00:36
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 00:36
DaemonFCGallium's fix for that landed today, where it calls that extension by both names :PApr 15 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zombies #games on #Linux http://ur1.ca/3ulo5 "Atom zombie smasher, violetland, Ultimate Zombie Fighters, project zomboid and Zombpocalypse"Apr 15 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Linuxaria 5 Zombies games on Linux .::. Size~: 70.93 KBApr 15 00:37
schestowitzthey have Microsoft supporrApr 15 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Universe studying #GNU #Linux supercomputer powered up http://ur1.ca/3uoe9 "10TB of NFS storage"Apr 15 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Universe studying Linux supercomputer powered up - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 89.32 KBApr 15 00:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's a common problem with free software supporting proprietary hardware where it's easier to add a workaround than ask the vendor to fix their broken hardwareApr 15 00:39
DaemonFCthis time it was Gallium which had to workaround broken proprietary softwareApr 15 00:39
DaemonFCeven though Gallium's previous behavior was more correctApr 15 00:39
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 00:39
DaemonFCthe fix was trivial, all the "new" extension is, is an alias to the old oneApr 15 00:40
DaemonFCbut imagine what could end up happening if every OpenGL application did this, and Gallium had to claim to support two extensions for every extension it really does supportApr 15 00:41
DaemonFCthe proprietary OpenGL stacks do that and it's one reason why their glxinfo goes on, and on, and onApr 15 00:41
DaemonFC:PApr 15 00:41
DaemonFCI suppose there's no harm in it other then making the output of glxinfo really unreadableApr 15 00:42
DaemonFCand adding several hundred lines of code just to alias vendor names to the extension nameApr 15 00:42
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 00:42
DaemonFCit would be nice if they could just scrap OpenGL and start over with a new 3d API designed for modern hardware and to avoid patents and bloated extensions that really are only good for claiming to support the entire APIApr 15 00:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 00:44
schestowitzDon't they also increase directhacks supportApr 15 00:44
schestowitz?Apr 15 00:44
DaemonFCI believe the hardware around today is generic enough that this is technically possibleApr 15 00:44
DaemonFCmehApr 15 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New release of Mono-free distro (and proud of it) comes with the latest #KDE http://ur1.ca/3uojd /cc @openbytesApr 15 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netrunner 3 – Official release .::. Size~: 10.03 KBApr 15 00:45
DaemonFCif you add OpenGL features, you're already making it more DirectX compatible, schestowitz Apr 15 00:45
DaemonFCvia WineApr 15 00:45
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 00:45
DaemonFCschestowitz, DirectX is not happening on free software, obviouslyApr 15 00:45
DaemonFCOpenGL is full of patents and bloatApr 15 00:46
DaemonFCso what's the way forward?Apr 15 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia Beta1 in pictures http://ur1.ca/3uomg #mandriva #gnu #linuxApr 15 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Free sticker when you say "domo arigato" at the EFF RoboGames table this weekend in San Mateo! http://robogames.netApr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Mageia Beta1 in pictures .::. Size~: 101.7 KBApr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RoboGames! (formerly ROBOlympics) .::. Size~: 11.92 KBApr 15 00:48
schestowitzFreeGLApr 15 00:48
schestowitz!google fsfe opengl thankApr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Planet - Fellowship of FSFE | http://planet.fsfe.org/Apr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Fellowship Interviews | http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/Apr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - #543475 - with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1, box selection crashes ... | http://bugs.debian.org/543475Apr 15 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Advogato: GNU and FSF News for November 2007 | http://www.advogato.org/article/954.htmlApr 15 00:48
schestowitzoops, typoApr 15 00:49
schestowitz!google fsf opengl thankApr 15 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Thank you SGI, for freeing the GNU/Linux 3D desktop! — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/thank-you-sgiApr 15 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - gleem - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) | http://www.gnu.org/software/gleem/Apr 15 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Linux.com :: SGI relicenses OpenGL: "A huge gift to the free ... | http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/148339Apr 15 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - FSF to rapidly develop open/free PowerVR driver - free maemo ... | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php%3Fp%3D946866Apr 15 00:49
DaemonFConly parts of OpenGL are suitable for free softwareApr 15 00:49
DaemonFCobviously s3tc and floating point textures are blocking OpenGL 3+ and even full OpenGL 2.1 complianceApr 15 00:49
DaemonFCthis is....badApr 15 00:49
schestowitzhttp://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/man-infects-himself-with-computer-virus/ Man Infects Himself With Computer VirusApr 15 00:51
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schestowitzhttp://deviceguru.com/ham-satellite-broadcast-celebrates-1st-manned-space-flight/Apr 15 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is enough of Lady Gaga. Inoffensive synth pop.Apr 15 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy Vishu! http://ur1.ca/3up6aApr 15 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] a partir de ahora estoy en vivo desde @fcbosque en Bogotá !flisolbogota !radiognu /cc @islene cheguei! :-)Apr 15 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] rd @seantorrie Guelph students say "surprise, we are voting" Harper reply to students, "surprise, you are not" http://ur1.ca/3uo4j !elxn41Apr 15 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] End of second period, Montreal leading Boston 1-0 #hockeyApr 15 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Net Neutrality: An Encouraging Report From the French Parliament http://ur1.ca/3uk6u #NetNeutralityApr 15 01:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Net Neutrality: An Encouraging Report From the French Parliament | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 37.74 KBApr 15 01:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @flisolbogota: Quieres escuchar sobre sexo, drogas y software este próximo sábado a las 12 a.m, @lxoliva l@s invita a tod@s#! #radioGNU ;DApr 15 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] having a hard time trying to figure out why #linux kernel #sctp is deciding to drop one data chunk and all its retransmissionsApr 15 02:26
DaemonFCschestowitz, I asked my landlord if there are any kiddie diddlers he's not renting to.Apr 15 02:31
DaemonFChe gave me a stareApr 15 02:31
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] First time I can recall the ISP going down only for 10 mins though.Apr 15 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel 2011Q1 Linux Graphics Package: With xf86-video-intel 2.15 now having been released, Intel has just issued ... http://bit.ly/eykkRsApr 15 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Blender Becomes More Usable With 2.57 Release: Blender 2.57 has been released and while its version number may s... http://bit.ly/fwDflRApr 15 02:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.3-libre now available at http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/ as announced live on !radiognuApr 15 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if anyone could do an audio CLI guide in Klingon, that's be hilarious, lots of Klingon words with the odd *nix commands & flagsApr 15 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Weee! Amazing indeed! Makes CPV viable alternative! RD @zaibatsu Amazing: Solar Cells Hit 43 Percent Efficiency #green http://cnet.co/hXkMNzApr 15 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fabsh ♺ @johanv: It looks like a #gnu indeed :-P ♺ @evan: for comparison http://ur1.ca/3u9idApr 15 04:00
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twitterMore Microsoft vaporware.  http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/index.php/20110412/news/8368/windows-already-up-and-running-on-arm-architecture/Apr 15 04:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows already up and running on ARM architecture | RCR Unplugged .::. Size~: 97.05 KBApr 15 04:08
twitter Vista 8 will run on ARM, they swear!Apr 15 04:09
DaemonFCVista 9 will run on LEGApr 15 04:09
DaemonFCand it's now the Pink Screen of DeathApr 15 04:10
DaemonFCBallmer sez, Vista 9 is FABULOUS!!!!Apr 15 04:11
DaemonFCVista 10 will run on a quantum computer because nobody is really sure how it works anyway.Apr 15 04:12
twitterLooking back at Vista 7, I see that they explicitly ruled out running on ARM, though they hyped Vista 7's supposed ability to run on netbooks.  don't try that at home.  http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/216759Apr 15 04:13
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twitterIt's funny how they rolled about a pile of truly craptacular WinCE netbooks last year and acted like those were good enough for users.Apr 15 04:15
twitterNow they play the same sham again.Apr 15 04:15
twitterNot even the Microsoft friendly source claiming it already runs thinks they will get there.  Shame on Slashdot for passing on Microsoft Vapor (TM).Apr 15 04:16
twitterblah!Apr 15 04:16
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twittersome good news, http://falkvinge.net/2011/04/14/european-court-of-justice-to-outlaw-internet-filtering-esp-for-copyright-enforcement/Apr 15 04:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Court of Justice To Outlaw Internet Filtering; Esp. For Copyright Enforcement - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 85.65 KBApr 15 04:20
twitterperhaps they can undo France's obnoxious three strikes lawsApr 15 04:21
twitterif that falls, other parts of Oceania, such as Australia and New Zealand might get smart.  Apr 15 04:22
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Ender2070lol twitterApr 15 04:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] usual high school journalism at work with the #BBC http://is.gd/CCMDvu #Microsoft story without the M or W words #typical #patheticApr 15 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] any idea how I can search for a term on $transifex without looking at a specific project? I thought it was possible to do so AFAIR. !lazywebApr 15 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] any idea how I can search for a term on #transifex without looking at a specific project? I thought it was possible to do so AFAIR. !lazywebApr 15 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well done #JohnyCassidy #BBC article about music stores that doesn't blame "piracy" for everything http://is.gd/pBduN9 I'm stunnedApr 15 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if this will be pulled & rewritten when the #BPI see itApr 15 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Could the indie record store be on the comeback trail? .::. Size~: 67.87 KBApr 15 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If we can't get good evidence, we'll go for junk evidence. If we can't a real theory, we'll go with a conspiracy theory. —C. #Hitchens !qApr 15 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @psuresh I didn't know #Google had lifted the ban on #AGPL! via admitting any OSI licenses! The news was low-key. !freesoftware http: ...Apr 15 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] If we can't get good evidence, we'll go for junk evidence. If we can't get a real theory, we'll go with a conspiracy theory. #Hitchens !qApr 15 04:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] National Post: Fringe profile: Pirate Party champions Internet issues http://ur1.ca/3un5u !elxn41 !fed2011Apr 15 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter The fonts look good, but the one I tried doesn't have a license deed in the zip file, and only info says © all rights reservedApr 15 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @quaid @laurelrusswurm thoughtful response to why she her novel 'Inconstant Moon' is CC BY NC SA ... for now http://bit.ly/gYoH6b #co ...Apr 15 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Dear Twitter, did it occur to you that after about a year of you trying to tell me about the "new" version, I DON'T care to read about it?Apr 15 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psuresh I didn't know #Google had lifted the ban on #AGPL! via admitting any OSI licenses! The news was low-key. !freesoftware http: ...Apr 15 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight !identiverse .... zzzzzzzzzApr 15 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #RSAnimate: RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us http://is.gd/j2jKdw http://is.gd/SpuTbNApr 15 06:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @digimer: RT @Filterologist: Shoutout to all the nurses who are underpaid & underappreciated. They make the difference in our healthcare.Apr 15 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 466 Last therapy session with 1 therapist. Teenagers... http://bit.ly/8Z0qUq #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #reading #scifiApr 15 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Groklaw: Reminder and a Thought: http://is.gd/oMeiHX #sco #legal #PJ #wewillmissherApr 15 06:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Asia runs out of IPv4 addresses - should we "APNIC" now? ;) http://ur1.ca/3uratApr 15 06:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #stable #kernel 2.6.38.3 released http://bit.ly/hjuqTz #mustupgradeApr 15 07:13
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-NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-185-122-116.range86-185.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Apr 15 07:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Where The Open-Source AMD Driver Is At For Modern GPUs: Earlier this week Sapphire launched the Radeon HD 5830 E... http://bit.ly/fzkE65Apr 15 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My talk has been accepted for Bettersoftware 2011 - will speak of cloud computing and stuff. #bs2011Apr 15 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All it takes is a Windsor wedding and Britain's natural serf mentality breaks out like a dose of clap. #WishIwasbornFrenchApr 15 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Trust, Governance and Democracy: http://wp.me/pj2fj-pR #sgelectionApr 15 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Portugal: Open Standards become prerequisite for government IT http://is.gd/D3wdrG #portugal #openstandards #egovtApr 15 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !android Safest way to root a Samsung Galaxy S ? Anyone have a good link? #tiaApr 15 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Possible to connect netbook to internet via wireless/bluetooth on !android Samsung Galaxy S. Any suggestions? Found PdaNet for USB cable.Apr 15 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh gee. The Guy next to me spoke loud on the phone and arranged to fix a public procurement (which obviously is a crime...).Apr 15 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Where are my manners!? Good morning !identiverse :)Apr 15 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: - Draga mea, vrei sa petrecem un weekend minunat ? - Daaa, ce idee buna ! - Ok atunci ne vedem luni!Apr 15 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS_Announce: CESA-2011:0370 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 wireshark Update - http://is.gd/xhhoZK #centosApr 15 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS_Announce: CEBA-2011:0359 CentOS 5 x86_64 xulrunner Update - http://is.gd/HxIk0m #centosApr 15 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EU_Commission: Launched a public #consultation on the strategy of the European Institute of Innovation & #Technology http://bit.ly/hDqhHuApr 15 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is "#plagiarism" in a judicial decision wrong? - http://bit.ly/hJHMHc weirdApr 15 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Brilliant! Bloke on telly describes British and French as having a Vicky Pollard #Libya policy. "Regime change...yeah but.. no but" #spotonApr 15 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google’s Earnings: 4 Takeaways - http://on.mash.to/dQDsE8 useful analysisApr 15 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @ave: =))Apr 15 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vandals Win First Round Of Ridiculous Lawsuit Variety Filed Against Them; Issue Mocking Video - http://bit.ly/hPT60I hoorayApr 15 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New version of Blender released, learning curve no longer a brick wall - http://tnw.co/gIpUry doubly good news #opensource #3dmodellingApr 15 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody New version of Blender released, learning curve no longer a brick wall - http://tnw.co/gIpUry doubly good news #opensource ...Apr 15 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Google’s Earnings: 4 Takeaways - http://on.mash.to/dQDsE8 useful analysisApr 15 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Save #Khimki Forest: Stand with #Russia's Human Rights and Environmental Activists - http://bit.ly/dFjsOR brave people, difficult causeApr 15 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but.Apr 15 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Smartphone Wars: NoWin deal “more takeover than deal”? - http://bit.ly/ij3EqG "$85 [android] tablets now implies $50 tablets year end"Apr 15 08:56
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schestowitzok, exciting stuff today... coding wise... and Tim and I sorted out the video, will start a youtube channel probablyApr 15 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blogging for #HuffPo Is Like Writing Open-Source Software - http://bit.ly/f661me good analogy #opensourceApr 15 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Campus copyright: publishers sue over university "e-reserves" - http://bit.ly/hjr2HU more evidence #copyright not fit for 21st centuryApr 15 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Explanation of the #ECJ opinion on internet #blocking - http://bit.ly/ecnY8w let's hope it's correct #ispsApr 15 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where in Singapore can I get this: Nokia Bicycle Charger Kit http://t.co/sgSnldGApr 15 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.Apr 15 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ghostler/@ghostler] "Three quarters of workers polled by #Microsoft feel they are forced to #lie at work, and about half admit to doing it." http://ur1.ca/3us2oApr 15 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks Associates Hit Back Over U.S. Twitter Records Demand - http://bit.ly/guKgla the Icelandic (& Dutch & US) saga continuesApr 15 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: !Ubuntu 11.04 Beta 2 Released: Test and Report! http://goo.gl/U31ZRApr 15 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Faenza Icon Theme Updated With New #LibreOffice, !UbuntuOne Icons http://goo.gl/dwbrY !uApr 15 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: !Ubuntu App Developer Week Day 3 http://goo.gl/F0darApr 15 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Xubuntu 11.04 beta 2 released http://goo.gl/fKqAlApr 15 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: #GDM Greeter First User Interface http://goo.gl/NUoj3Apr 15 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evolutionary Babel was in southern Africa - http://bit.ly/hJs62S sounds plausible #linguistics #phonemesApr 15 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox Add-on ‘Undoes’ U.S. Government Domain Seizures - http://bit.ly/igSWfP simply inevitableApr 15 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Google !Android: 350,000 daily activations, 3 billion apps served http://goo.gl/UnDbSApr 15 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists teleport Schrodinger's cat http://ur1.ca/3usc3 !scienceApr 15 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @syntax: Oooh, there's going to be powered rails in !minecraft 1.5. Guess that just made the booster more or less redundant.Apr 15 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Being Successful With New Business Models Still Means Hard Work - http://bit.ly/hXxOB6 record labels please note #businessmodelsApr 15 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I seriously hate software that uses rpc. It's so... Firewall unfriendly! Specially since for some reason sunrpc.* isn't being respected!Apr 15 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yale Rolls Out 10 New Courses – All Free - http://bit.ly/fzZYj6 "Moral Foundations of Politics" - must be a very short course, that one #ocwApr 15 10:24
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DaemonFCwhy the hell would anyone buy SCO for their "UNIX business"?Apr 15 10:40
DaemonFCSCO UNIXWARE is laughably outdatedApr 15 10:40
DaemonFCin fact, most proprietary UNIX systems are in that kind of shape, though maybe not as badApr 15 10:42
MinceRtheir "UNIX business" is "suing UNIX developers and users business"Apr 15 10:43
MinceR(well, more like "FUDding" than "suing" now, since everyone who matters knows they're full of shit)Apr 15 10:44
DaemonFCthey claim the lawsuits remain with SCO and they only bought the UNIX businessApr 15 10:44
MinceRso they'll start new lawsuits? :>Apr 15 10:44
MinceRor threaten starting them?Apr 15 10:44
DaemonFCanyone still using Unixware is doing it because they have legacy applicationsApr 15 10:45
DaemonFCnot because they want to keep using itApr 15 10:45
MinceRwho said they're buying sco?Apr 15 10:45
DaemonFCI misunderstood it to mean thatApr 15 10:45
DaemonFCmy mistakeApr 15 10:45
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DaemonFCthe only proprietary UNIX that still seems to be in any kind of decent shape is SolarisApr 15 10:46
MinceRif you call that a "decent shape"Apr 15 10:46
DaemonFCthey really mishandled the open sourcing of itApr 15 10:47
DaemonFCand making it proprietary again was even dumberApr 15 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cine folosește GNU/Linux în România (1) http://is.gd/3b2fQH #Linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #fossApr 15 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China Mobile Planning Own Brand Linux Tablets - http://bit.ly/fLk5vo "planning to spend $333 million on purchasing 1 million tablet devices"Apr 15 10:48
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DaemonFCbasically they're screwed now because companies don't want to buy niche hardwareApr 15 10:48
DaemonFCand that's the only thing Solaris ever really ran well onApr 15 10:48
MinceRespecially from a company that is destroying everything they bought with the company that used to make said niche hardware? :>Apr 15 10:49
DaemonFCit runs on x86, but it has a severe shortage of working driversApr 15 10:49
DaemonFCyou can't just slap Solaris on any old x86 box and expect it to work, where Linux usually doesApr 15 10:49
DaemonFCI'm not really sure I'd call OpenOffice a great programApr 15 10:50
DaemonFCit's more like, the best out of a bad bunchApr 15 10:50
MinceRi wouldn't call any office application a great programApr 15 10:51
MinceRwell, maybe GnumericApr 15 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Clip Art Library DouDou #Linux Competition and Famous People Collection - http://bit.ly/fLyCdl good work #cc0 #clipartApr 15 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Who uses GNU/Linux in Romania (1) http://tinyurl.com/6ek7msh #linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #desktop #fossApr 15 10:51
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MinceRbut even that inherits the design flaws of the traditional spreadsheet app modelApr 15 10:51
DaemonFCLibreOffice makes some nice improvementsApr 15 10:51
DaemonFCOpenOffice used to just crash when I tried to load an Excel spreadsheet with cells that just went on and onApr 15 10:52
DaemonFC:PApr 15 10:52
DaemonFCLibreOffice has that Go-OO patch that allows a million cellsApr 15 10:52
MinceRah, the classic "RDBMS? what's that?" use caseApr 15 10:53
DaemonFCMinceR, Here we have a case where the idiot that sends you the spreadsheet can't be bothered to break it upApr 15 10:53
DaemonFCand instead sends you one massive one that takes 10 minutes to loadApr 15 10:53
DaemonFCand all of your RAMApr 15 10:53
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 10:53
DaemonFCand it's illegal to kill them *sadface*Apr 15 10:54
MinceRwhy is _he_ working one that takes 10 minutes to load and all his RAM in the first place?Apr 15 10:54
MinceRs/on/on on/Apr 15 10:54
DaemonFCwho knows?Apr 15 10:54
MinceRthat's my pointApr 15 10:54
DaemonFCThat's the way things get done in state offices apparentlyApr 15 10:54
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Google Should Buy the #Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, and it would solve so many problems #copyrightApr 15 10:54
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MinceRwould it?Apr 15 10:55
DaemonFCI hate the government Apr 15 10:55
DaemonFCbecause of shit like this, among other thingsApr 15 10:55
DaemonFCdumbassesApr 15 10:55
DaemonFCMinceR, You know what's funny? All state forms are in Microsoft formats, including ones for public assistanceApr 15 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cine folosește GNU/Linux în România (1): În București, pe galeria CORA din Pantelimon, laptopurile de la câteva ... http://bit.ly/hkYP36Apr 15 10:56
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DaemonFCapparently they think someone applying for section 8 housing or food stamps is going to have a $200 copy of Microsoft OfficeApr 15 10:56
DaemonFCjust laying aroundApr 15 10:56
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 10:56
DaemonFCI know if I had no food and no money for rent, the first thing I'd buy is Microsoft OfficeApr 15 10:57
DaemonFCdoesn't that make sense to you?Apr 15 10:57
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 10:57
DaemonFCand while I'm out, with no money for rent or food, I'll buy a PC with Windows to run that $200 copy of OfficeApr 15 10:58
DaemonFCbecause it's not like $1,000 can pay rent or buy foodApr 15 10:58
DaemonFCnow is it? :)Apr 15 10:58
DaemonFCoh sure you can go to your local "Family Services" office, there's ONE in every county (about 300 square miles)Apr 15 10:59
DaemonFCsince you don't have money for food or rent, you can just gas up your car and head on over thereApr 15 10:59
DaemonFCB-)Apr 15 10:59
DaemonFCkind of makes me wonder how illegal aliens that don't speak English can abuse the systemApr 15 11:00
DaemonFCwhen it makes it so hard to apply for help or even get over there to begin withApr 15 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Google Should Buy the Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, [it'd] solve so many problems #copyrightApr 15 11:01
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DaemonFCMinceR, Nothing the state does makes any senseApr 15 11:02
DaemonFCyou really want to know why they send out million cell spreadsheets?Apr 15 11:02
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 11:02
oiaohmDaemonFC: It makes worse sence here.Apr 15 11:02
DaemonFCask themApr 15 11:02
oiaohmCurrently MS Office and MS Windows cost more than the USA.Apr 15 11:02
DaemonFChahaApr 15 11:02
oiaohmYet we cannot by the USA copies and install them.Apr 15 11:02
DaemonFC:PApr 15 11:02
DaemonFCbecause of geolocation in the activation serviceApr 15 11:03
DaemonFCI am guessing :)Apr 15 11:03
oiaohm100 percent correct.Apr 15 11:03
oiaohmfirst activation has to be in the right country.Apr 15 11:03
DaemonFCuse a proxy?Apr 15 11:03
oiaohmFails.Apr 15 11:03
oiaohmproxy adds too much time.Apr 15 11:03
DaemonFCcall their US activation line?Apr 15 11:04
oiaohmWorks until the first windows update.  DaemonFCApr 15 11:04
DaemonFChehApr 15 11:04
DaemonFCcoolApr 15 11:04
oiaohmall the cheat methods are covered.Apr 15 11:04
oiaohmFirst electronic activation.Apr 15 11:04
DaemonFCoh, so it works and then it immediately reactivates during the first batch of updatesApr 15 11:05
oiaohmSo even if you get it activated using US activation line.Apr 15 11:05
DaemonFCso you're activated for like 5 minutesApr 15 11:05
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 11:05
oiaohmactivated for 5 mins then dies.Apr 15 11:05
oiaohmand if you ring up and ask question you are dead meat.Apr 15 11:05
oiaohmLicense restrictions on windows  say the license is only valid if sold in the correct geolocation.Apr 15 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] European Court of Justice To Outlaw Internet Filtering !outlawstory !lo http://tinyurl.com/3dnplbzApr 15 11:06
oiaohmAnd installed in the correct geolocation.Apr 15 11:06
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DaemonFCI about bought a monitor while I was at Walmart earlierApr 15 11:06
DaemonFCsure glad I didn'tApr 15 11:06
DaemonFCI thought to go back and look at the display modelApr 15 11:06
DaemonFCand the only connectors it has are DVI and VGAApr 15 11:07
DaemonFCIf I pay that much I want HDMI or DisplayPortApr 15 11:07
DaemonFC:PApr 15 11:07
DaemonFCwhy are there still monitors that use DVI?Apr 15 11:07
DaemonFCit's been deprecatedApr 15 11:07
oiaohmNo its not.Apr 15 11:08
oiaohmLot of video cards are still DVI.Apr 15 11:08
oiaohmHDMI due to its encryption has a bad habit of being a total prick.Apr 15 11:08
DaemonFCmine has hdmi, DVI, and displayportApr 15 11:09
DaemonFCno VGA connectorApr 15 11:09
oiaohmIe VGA connect is deprecated.Apr 15 11:09
Diablo-D3ermApr 15 11:09
oiaohmDVI is still current.Apr 15 11:09
DaemonFCit has been for a whileApr 15 11:09
Diablo-D3you do realize HDMI is just DVI with audio pins, right?Apr 15 11:09
DaemonFCbasically it is, yesApr 15 11:09
oiaohmDiablo-D3: DVI also has analogo option.Apr 15 11:10
Diablo-D3it really doesntApr 15 11:10
Diablo-D3nothing supports itApr 15 11:10
Diablo-D3most devices do not support DVI-AApr 15 11:10
DaemonFCVGA causes all kinds of hellApr 15 11:10
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 11:10
DaemonFCnot to mention X gets pissy with you if you don't use the VGA arbiter and try to run multiple X serversApr 15 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] European Court of Justice To Outlaw Internet Filtering !outlawstory !lo http://tinyurl.com/3dnplbzApr 15 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I believe what you meant to say was "fuck you, fedora design and marketing" http://ur1.ca/3uspj #</rant>Apr 15 11:11
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DaemonFCX is a pile of crap but VGA is tooApr 15 11:11
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 11:12
oiaohmMy screen here will take DVI-A and DVI-D.   Yes warpped it did not have a VGA port on it but it had a DVI-A to VGA cable.Apr 15 11:12
DaemonFCdvi-vga cable will save you from having to use the vga arbiterApr 15 11:12
DaemonFCI've done it like that beforeApr 15 11:12
DaemonFCerrr, connector that isApr 15 11:12
DaemonFCthe VGA arbiter itself has bugsApr 15 11:13
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 11:13
oiaohmReally VGA arbiter is only if you card uses old VGA interfaces.Apr 15 11:14
oiaohmNot if you are using VGA cable from video card to screen.Apr 15 11:14
oiaohmSome modern crappy cards still need vga arbiter even that they have DVI and displayport ports.Apr 15 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Russian manufacturers offer tablet PCs - http://bit.ly/el1S1h running #android, of course #russia #tabletsApr 15 11:16
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DaemonFCI wonder what this month's fglrx is going to haveApr 15 11:17
DaemonFCI'm starting to be pissed that they still use the big kernel lockApr 15 11:18
DaemonFCit doesn't even exist in 2.6.39Apr 15 11:18
oiaohmThey can put it off a while yet.Apr 15 11:19
oiaohm2.6.39 is not offically released yet.Apr 15 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures appoints European head - http://bit.ly/h5AAnE be afraid, be very afraid #patenttrolls #intellectualventuresApr 15 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Skype for !Android Hacked, Personal Data an Easy Target according to Product Reviews http://ping.fm/lCqt3Apr 15 11:19
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DaemonFCthe preview driver for Ubuntu Natty is really slowApr 15 11:20
DaemonFCit's not that much faster than the free driversApr 15 11:20
oiaohmyep.Apr 15 11:20
DaemonFCwhat exactly happened? :PApr 15 11:21
DaemonFCit's not even worth using in the state it's inApr 15 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Intellectual Ventures appoints European head - http://bit.ly/h5AAnE be afraid, be very afraid #patenttrolls #intellectualv ...Apr 15 11:21
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oiaohmDaemonFC: No more cheating by holding the BKL so other processes cannot do anything.Apr 15 11:21
DaemonFCI mean, its performance is roughly cut in halfApr 15 11:22
DaemonFCliterallyApr 15 11:22
DaemonFCand 2.6.38 still has the big kernel lock btwApr 15 11:22
oiaohmDid Ubuntu build with the big kernel lock.Apr 15 11:23
oiaohmFrom memory I though the ubuntu one was patched big kernel lock free.Apr 15 11:23
DaemonFCnoApr 15 11:23
DaemonFCit fails to build a module if you remove the BKLApr 15 11:23
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DaemonFCyeah, I tried fucking with it to get it to make a module for 2.6.39Apr 15 11:26
DaemonFCand it jsut wouldn'tApr 15 11:26
DaemonFCso I gave upApr 15 11:26
DaemonFCit's not really worth fighting it so it will spit out a proprietary driver that's not even all that much faster and causes a lot of bugsApr 15 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A modest proposal for an interstellar communications network http://ur1.ca/3usth !scienceApr 15 11:31
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DaemonFCoiaohm, You figure the free radeon driver would benefit from no forced preemption?Apr 15 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hello from Arch. :)Apr 15 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Google accused of blocking third-party !Android search apps in Korean antitrust complaints http://ping.fm/UXCWjApr 15 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] eSecurity Planet: Side Channel Attack Beats #Skype Encryption http://ping.fm/6kNFgApr 15 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Damm I look forward to getting my laptop reinstalled with #F15 and the new #Pino client, I keep seeing double posts from my #F13Apr 15 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Adobe warns of [another?] software vulnerability - ComputerActive.co.uk http://ping.fm/RAjsCApr 15 11:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Google Updates #Chrome Stable Channel to 10.0.648.205, Mitigates Critical #Vulnerabilities http://ow.ly/4ASSTApr 15 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !MeeGo sees interest from others after #Nokia shift - Forex Pros http://ping.fm/OQYUXApr 15 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bdesmet: RT @rrix I believe what you meant to say was "fuck you, fedora design and marketing" http://ur1.ca/3uspj #</rant>Apr 15 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] We need !Meego to survive, along with !WebOS. Even !Opensource needs internal competitionApr 15 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Design-team] Gnome-shell extension that adds a Fedora logo .::. Size~: 4.6 KBApr 15 11:48
oiaohmDaemonFC: Forced preemption most likely would hurt it.Apr 15 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fitt's law my ass.Apr 15 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell The White House And Congress: Unlock Science Research - http://bit.ly/eQGpkh great move to extend #openaccessApr 15 11:53
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MinceRoiaohm: so there's one feature m$ ever got right and all it does is screw the user?Apr 15 11:56
MinceRfits them pretty wellApr 15 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Not Impossible Foundation - http://bit.ly/fDKY2n "non-profit organization comprising thinkers, dreamers, and doers."Apr 15 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Emerging nations built bit bypass round Europe - http://bit.ly/f1DHZz more straws in the wind #bricApr 15 11:58
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DaemonFCMinceR, You sound shocked :)Apr 15 11:58
MinceRDaemonFC: yes, i find it shocking that m$ managed to implement something correctlyApr 15 11:59
DaemonFCit makes them more moneyApr 15 11:59
MinceRmaking products that are actually usable would tooApr 15 11:59
DaemonFCnoApr 15 11:59
DaemonFCforcing users into using bad products is easierApr 15 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Controversial email fired off...Apr 15 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Quilting show at the International Center today. I get to be the driver, going to the local library to catch up on writing.Apr 15 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Brian Masse was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/fvbIS4Apr 15 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: NDP MP Dennis Bevington was lobbied by CANADIAN VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS' ASSOCIATION on Mar. 01 http://bit.ly/egNMX6Apr 15 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Pierre Poilievre was lobbied by TransCanada Corporation on Mar. 10 http://bit.ly/hZX6XIApr 15 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Rodney Weston was lobbied by Irving Oil on Mar. 15 http://bit.ly/gM3SpyApr 15 12:13
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*asdfas2wefw (~Adium@193.106.11.241) has joined #techrightsApr 15 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Looks like #Anonymous is about to go on another rampage. I've woken up to an interesting morning. Hello Universe!Apr 15 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] +1 ♺ @jpope: Must get !coffee. Need a #cupofcoffee.Apr 15 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chalkahlom: Australia takes the lead in the world's hottest !chilli stakes.. http://ur1.ca/3usz5 1.46 millionApr 15 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Yale Rolls Out 10 New Free Courses - http://bit.ly/fzZYj6 "Moral Foundations of Politics" - must be a short course, that oneApr 15 12:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sounds like a Samuel L. Jackson movie. ♺ @chemist: I'm on a plane full of fucking retards and 80s rejectsApr 15 12:21
asdfas2wefwDebian tartan:Apr 15 12:22
asdfas2wefwhttp://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails.aspx?ref=5936Apr 15 12:22
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oiaohmMinceR: Really MS has failed even at screw the user.Apr 15 12:25
oiaohmMinceR:  think of how often windows gets pirated.Apr 15 12:25
MinceR:>Apr 15 12:25
oiaohmOne thing MS did get right was the blue screen of death idea.Apr 15 12:25
oiaohmSo that when a system dies you know why.Apr 15 12:25
MinceRit was their idea? :>Apr 15 12:26
MinceR(not it being blue, but the part that matters)Apr 15 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahahahahahaha! The Flyers lost. Go Sabres!!!!! :DApr 15 12:26
oiaohmTo reset the video card so it could be displayed.Apr 15 12:26
oiaohmYes it was their idea todo that.Apr 15 12:26
oiaohmOne of MS few true inventions.Apr 15 12:26
oiaohmMind you they aquired a person from digital that came up with the idea.  MinceRApr 15 12:27
oiaohmSo it was not a MS in house trained person.Apr 15 12:27
oiaohmI don't think I have ever seen a invention from a MS trained person that was worth anything.Apr 15 12:28
MinceR:>Apr 15 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: “Mike Magee, you will never work in this industry again” - Microsoft PR #quoteApr 15 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing the podcast while trying to find a Gnome/Xfce mouse cursor package for Arch.....Apr 15 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I agree 100% ♺ @corenominal: An interesting perspective of #Harmony: http://muppy.org/12Apr 15 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bdale I just contributed to the campaign to sponsor the 2011 Libre Graphics Meeting .. you should too! http://pledgie.com/campaign ...Apr 15 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: Rest in peace Vittorio Arrigoni...Killed by ruthless murderers in Gaza..Apr 15 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Optical Lattice Clock (Patricia Daukantas blog): http://bit.ly/eZ2iM2Apr 15 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Solaris is the Edmonton Oilers of operating systems. Yes, they did have Gretzky once but now they're just shit...Apr 15 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Iceland’s message to Portugal | Red Pepper blog | Red Pepper - http://www.redpepper.org.uk/iceland%e2%80%99s-message-to-portugal/Apr 15 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] It would be cool if I could send sound from my laptop #Linux #Fedora to mu #NS via Bluetooth so I didn't have to remove my speaker headsetApr 15 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] FTP celebrates ruby anniversary (Register): http://bit.ly/dNThgVApr 15 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Drool!Neil Gaiman’s American Gods on HBO http://m.deadline.com/2011/04/playtone-options-neil-gaimans-american-gods-in-series-talks-with-hbo/Apr 15 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Deadline.com » Blog Archive » Playtone Setting Neil Gaiman’s ‘American Gods’ For HBO Series .::. Size~: 20.55 KBApr 15 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: See The World http://j.mp/fz1UBv - Ah, my daily fix is in - Thanks Nina!Apr 15 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... That Kaleta goal was beautiful. :D !NHLApr 15 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: @fabsh I have to support Solaris, and everytime I'm ssh'd onto them I just wish it was Linux...Apr 15 12:54
DaemonFCMinceR, you'll get a kick out of thisApr 15 12:57
DaemonFChttp://www.kroah.com/log/suse/tumbleweed-status-04-09-2011.htmlApr 15 12:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: linux kernel monkey log .::. Size~: 2.99 KBApr 15 12:57
DaemonFC"Note, it seems that when any package is added or updated in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repository, LibreOffice rebuilds itself"Apr 15 12:57
DaemonFCnice build system you have there :PApr 15 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What a save. :D http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabres-nhl/article393200.ece/BINARY/w620/weber15.jpgApr 15 12:58
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DaemonFCfixed a bug in Firefox, you know what this meansApr 15 12:58
DaemonFCTIME TO DOWNLOAD LIBRE OFFICE AGAIN!!!!Apr 15 12:58
DaemonFChooray!Apr 15 12:58
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 12:58
DaemonFCbut don't worry, it's only like a gigabyteApr 15 12:59
DaemonFCthis will only piss people off that are "bandwidth constrained"Apr 15 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @lwnnet LinuxCon Lineup (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/438574/rssApr 15 12:59
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oiaohmIts about 1/4  DaemonFCApr 15 12:59
DaemonFC(Or charged by how much bandwidth they use, or had plans to do something besides download the same LibreOfiice again that day, or....))Apr 15 13:00
DaemonFCLibreOffice is fucking hugeApr 15 13:00
oiaohmhttp://www.xonotic.org/  You could download this.  DaemonFCApr 15 13:01
DaemonFCmaybe not by the current standard ahem, where MS Office is now on a DVD9Apr 15 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xonotic .::. Size~: 27.01 KBApr 15 13:01
DaemonFCbut it's still massiveApr 15 13:01
oiaohmNote xonotic is only version 0.1 and compressed its larger than 1g.  DaemonFCApr 15 13:02
DaemonFCOffice Suites should not need extensionsApr 15 13:02
DaemonFCeverApr 15 13:02
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:02
MinceRDaemonFC: i wouldn't even mind their build system, it's just that suse is a pile of suckApr 15 13:02
DaemonFCespecially when it's to do something so god damned obvious as export a fucking PDF fileApr 15 13:02
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:02
oiaohmDaemonFC: pdf export with libreoffice does not require extention.Apr 15 13:02
DaemonFCthat's because it is an extensionApr 15 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh What surprised me most about Solaris when I tried it was how slow it was. BSDs are slightly faster than Lnux, so why is Solaris ..Apr 15 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh .. slower?Apr 15 13:03
oiaohmPDF inport and pdf hybrid files require extention.Apr 15 13:03
DaemonFCbut they bundled itApr 15 13:03
oiaohmNo its not. DaemonFCApr 15 13:03
oiaohmimport and hybred is in the extention.  DaemonFCApr 15 13:03
DaemonFCit's sad that PDF is still the closest thing to a document standardApr 15 13:03
oiaohmThere was postscript before it.Apr 15 13:04
DaemonFCand by standard, I don't mean ISO, and I don't mean wishful thinking like OOXMLApr 15 13:04
DaemonFCI mean it looks the same everywhereApr 15 13:04
DaemonFCand it isn't dependent on a certain OS like OOXML Apr 15 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hey, no one told me !identicurse automatically splits up long posts. That's pretty celever, but unexpected :)Apr 15 13:04
oiaohmODF if they would just bundle fonts and not worry about legalities it would work.Apr 15 13:04
oiaohmTechically PDF can cause a few legal problems with licensed fonts.Apr 15 13:05
DaemonFCthere's the Miguel de Icazas out there trying to legitimize OOXML even though they can't show me a single file that MS Office saves that anything else can properly openApr 15 13:05
oiaohmMS Office is not to OOXML spec.Apr 15 13:05
oiaohmMS is down right unless at writing spec documents.Apr 15 13:06
oiaohmThat windows works with Windows of different versions is more good luck than good management.Apr 15 13:06
DaemonFCtheir spec requires Windows functionality in order to workApr 15 13:06
oiaohmLOLApr 15 13:06
oiaohmOOXML Required bits from every version of MS Office to work.Apr 15 13:07
oiaohmIncluding Mac versions.Apr 15 13:07
DaemonFCthe closest I've seen to anyone else implementing OOXML ala MS Office  is Softmaker Apr 15 13:07
DaemonFCand even that fails sometimesApr 15 13:07
oiaohmlibreoffice does quite resonable.Apr 15 13:07
oiaohmMind you they made something they call laugh OOXML todo it.Apr 15 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] #Groklaw is looking for problems with the #DOI tendering process: http://is.gd/U09hV4 - please post links to evidence if you have any!Apr 15 13:08
DaemonFCOOXML is a bogus standardApr 15 13:08
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DaemonFCa red herring to throw people off Apr 15 13:08
DaemonFCthere's no office software that implements ISO OOXML, not even Microsoft'sApr 15 13:08
oiaohmDaemonFC: It was a red herring that is not working that well.Apr 15 13:08
oiaohmMore and more countries are backing ODF.Apr 15 13:08
DaemonFCif Microsoft supported their own "standard" and were willing to give a real patent grant to other people that made their own implementations, then I'd say it was a real standardApr 15 13:09
DaemonFCbut neither has or will ever happenApr 15 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FF@themadhatter @michaelgeist @AndyupdegroveApr 15 13:09
DaemonFCRich Text Format works well between word processorsApr 15 13:10
DaemonFCuntil someone using Word 2007 or 2010 saves itApr 15 13:10
MinceRDaemonFC: even if there was no hope of those different ooxml implementations to read each other's output?Apr 15 13:10
DaemonFCand it shoves a bunch of crap into itApr 15 13:11
DaemonFCmeh, ODF is already kind of like thatApr 15 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It wasn't hard using setup.py, but yum install !identicurse is still easier, so I'm glad t o see it in !Fedora repos :)Apr 15 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If only I could work out how to do it in Cygwin. I need more, or a tutorial, time forthat :)Apr 15 13:11
DaemonFCMicrosoft's is broken deliberately and other office suites implement different bits and pieces of ODFApr 15 13:11
DaemonFCso I don't consider it legitimate eitherApr 15 13:11
DaemonFCbecause they're both unusableApr 15 13:11
DaemonFCODF is a little better because the software to read it is not $200Apr 15 13:12
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:12
DaemonFCbut I still think it's bullshitApr 15 13:12
oiaohmReally Microsoft pushed the weakness in the ODF standard.Apr 15 13:12
oiaohmMost of those weaknesses will disappear in 1.2 ODFApr 15 13:12
DaemonFCKOffice is really the only non BlOOoated Office that comes close to implementing ODFApr 15 13:13
DaemonFCand even if misses sometimesApr 15 13:13
oiaohmODF 1.1 MS forced OOXML formulars for excel like stuff into there ODF files.Apr 15 13:13
DaemonFCso you still end up with two suites that claim to use the same formatApr 15 13:13
DaemonFCthat really don'tApr 15 13:14
oiaohmBut really lot of ODF 1.0 programs just used what ever for the same thing.Apr 15 13:14
DaemonFCand leave the user fixing formatting or downloading BlOOoated OfficeApr 15 13:14
roy_http://twitter.com/faabodotcom/statuses/58831160247201792 http://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58848698758742016Apr 15 13:14
TechrightsBot-tr@faabodotcom: faabo.com -  Articles of Roy Schestowitz - ZDNet UK (blog) http://sns.mx/KkcDy6Apr 15 13:14
DaemonFCeven though KOffice is SO much nicerApr 15 13:14
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TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @FOSSpatents At least one conspiracy theorist is clueless enough to be a #boycottboy fan. Seen this really funny piece? http://bit.ly/ii94NuApr 15 13:14
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oiaohmDaemonFC: The fixed formatting flex happens in .doc and ooxml as well.Apr 15 13:15
DaemonFCI think KOffice is pretty slick, and it's fastApr 15 13:15
DaemonFCreally fastApr 15 13:15
oiaohmDaemonFC: between MS versions of OfficeApr 15 13:15
oiaohmLet alone anyone elses.Apr 15 13:15
DaemonFCit makes me mad when II have to fix someone's formatting in it because they used BlOOoated OfficeApr 15 13:15
DaemonFCI actually have about the same luck opening docx filesApr 15 13:15
oiaohmopen a docx with 2007 then 2010Apr 15 13:16
oiaohmAnd watch the party.Apr 15 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO #Minecraft server should be back up. :)Apr 15 13:16
oiaohmParticularly if the document is complex in formating.Apr 15 13:16
DaemonFCyeah, this way they sell upgradesApr 15 13:16
DaemonFCbecause 2010 ruines all the existing documents it opensApr 15 13:16
oiaohmODF really is not that bad.Apr 15 13:16
DaemonFCnot a new trickApr 15 13:16
DaemonFC*ruinsApr 15 13:17
DaemonFCMicrosoft had a half-broken OOXML importer for Office 2003Apr 15 13:17
roy_The mobbyists are not happy about it... http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58853462594682880Apr 15 13:17
DaemonFCit almost never works rightApr 15 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 46.27 KBApr 15 13:17
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @jackschofield Unbelievable. Thanks for sending the link. That post is one of a kind. "Clueless" puts it mildly. #boycottboy /cc @verofaktoApr 15 13:17
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzApr 15 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] From Roswell to Tupac, FBI opens The Vault | http://bit.ly/efCAkFApr 15 13:18
DaemonFCI was wondering why they even released it?Apr 15 13:18
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schestowitzBlech. The BT connection dropped again this morning.., and Virgin Trains made a mistake and now plays ping-pong by snail mailApr 15 13:18
DaemonFCthey use file format breakage to force upgradesApr 15 13:18
DaemonFCyear after year :)Apr 15 13:18
oiaohmYep end users are dumb.Apr 15 13:19
oiaohmWait goverments are workign out its costly.Apr 15 13:19
oiaohmThat started the push for ODF leading to MS trying to invent OOXML to stop the progress.Apr 15 13:19
oiaohmODF has been slower because its been designed on a shared model.Apr 15 13:20
DaemonFCMy dad was bitching about the place he worked at (long time ago) upgrading to Office 97, which pulled in IE 4Apr 15 13:21
DaemonFCwhich was eating some of their NT workstation systems aliveApr 15 13:21
DaemonFCso half the people there had 97 and others were stuck on 95 until their IT department could work things outApr 15 13:22
DaemonFCand they couldn't share documents because anything saved in 97 would no longer work in 95Apr 15 13:22
DaemonFConly Microsoft could take something as mundane as installing a web browser and turn it into reinstalling the operating system Apr 15 13:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: Also notice MS is up to there old games as well.Apr 15 13:24
oiaohmIE 9 installs on vista and later.Apr 15 13:24
oiaohmIE 10 installs on Windows 8 and later.Apr 15 13:25
oiaohmGreat.Apr 15 13:25
DaemonFCWindows 7 you mean?Apr 15 13:25
oiaohmNoApr 15 13:25
oiaohmIE 10 is currently ear marked for Windows 8 only.Apr 15 13:25
DaemonFCoh niceApr 15 13:26
oiaohmMS is not making enough sales.Apr 15 13:26
oiaohmSo starting to play the force update game.Apr 15 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh, two friends will respectively precede and follow my talk at #bsw2011: Franco Roman and Andrea Resmini (@resmini) #itsasmallworldApr 15 13:26
oiaohmproblem is I don't see it working.Apr 15 13:26
DaemonFCwho the hell says "Oh goody! A new version of IE! Let's go spend $300 on a new Windows!"?Apr 15 13:26
oiaohmSince its going to be hell I have to use firefox or chrome.Apr 15 13:26
oiaohmAlso IE9 has been auto isntalled with updates on vista +Apr 15 13:27
oiaohmTo try to make IE9 numbers improved.Apr 15 13:27
DaemonFCmehApr 15 13:27
oiaohmAnd its not working.Apr 15 13:27
DaemonFCdoesn't mean anyone will actually use itApr 15 13:27
oiaohmReally XP users still out number Vista and 7 users.Apr 15 13:27
DaemonFC"Oh joy, even more crap I didn't ask for!"Apr 15 13:28
DaemonFCtrueApr 15 13:28
DaemonFCand Firefox 4 runs fine on Windows XPApr 15 13:28
DaemonFCit also works on Windows 2000Apr 15 13:28
DaemonFCbut not officiallyApr 15 13:28
DaemonFCIE is hardly an argument to buy a new version of Windows.Apr 15 13:29
DaemonFCNot having IE is one of the best things about leaving WindowsApr 15 13:29
DaemonFChow do they bait an upgrade with that pile of crap?Apr 15 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Something for @jezra: ♺ @x1101: hey !LO check this out http://ur1.ca/3utb8Apr 15 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to #Microsoft Jack and Microsoft Florian I was made aware of this new piece which is accurate: http://ur1.ca/3utbkApr 15 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Other friends got the same type of defamation against them merely because they defended or advocated Linux. Such thinking is disallowed.Apr 15 13:31
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DaemonFCoiaohm, The problem with IE is that they really can't ever change some of the bad things they've done with itApr 15 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I should be fair and add though, I know people who criticised #IBM and also got defamed for it. #Microsoft is not alone in it.Apr 15 13:33
DaemonFCEven Opera is free to junk things that no longer make senseApr 15 13:33
DaemonFCMicrosoft was trying to say that IE's close ties to Windows were a strength, but it's also a curseApr 15 13:33
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:34
DaemonFCbeing "part of the OS" really limits how much it can be improved without breaking programs that depend on certain IE behaviorApr 15 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Root your samsung galaxy 3 with z4root !android http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/z4root-Download-110178.htmlApr 15 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz Thanks to #Microsoft Jack and Microsoft Florian I was made aware of this new piece which is accurate: http://ur1.ca/3utbkApr 15 13:34
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DaemonFCFirefox seems to have done just fine being cross platform and integrating with the host OSApr 15 13:35
DaemonFCthey beat Microsoft on all their own speed testsApr 15 13:35
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Infinite corporate power (a la Koch Bro) is deemed benign by all those who never tried to challenge it, effectively.Ex:Gore, Moore, FeingoldApr 15 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IBM Launches Maqetta #HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight - http://bit.ly/fZ0OEp usefulApr 15 13:38
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oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMzMg  DaemonFCApr 15 13:38
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DaemonFCoiaohm, I think IE 10 will run on WIndows 7Apr 15 13:38
DaemonFCit's too new to drop it nowApr 15 13:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: LOL.Apr 15 13:38
oiaohmMS needs sales.Apr 15 13:39
DaemonFCI also think IE 10 will still be really far behind Chrome, Firefox, and OperaApr 15 13:39
DaemonFCper usualApr 15 13:39
oiaohmI see two selling points for Windows 8Apr 15 13:39
DaemonFCso why should anyone care?Apr 15 13:39
oiaohmappstore and ie 10Apr 15 13:39
DaemonFCthere's threee choices that are better right thereApr 15 13:39
DaemonFCdrm storeApr 15 13:39
DaemonFCand Idiot Exploiter 10Apr 15 13:39
DaemonFChooray!Apr 15 13:39
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DaemonFChow can this not fail?Apr 15 13:40
DaemonFCI'll probably park myself on the next Long Term Support release of UbuntuApr 15 13:40
oiaohmNow of course MS might change there mind.Apr 15 13:40
oiaohmAnd allow both of those on Windows 7Apr 15 13:40
DaemonFCI didn't stay with 10.04 because its video drivers are garbage on my systemsApr 15 13:41
oiaohmBut you can 100 percent all those suxers with Vista are screwed.Apr 15 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to Make #Google Good Again - http://bit.ly/gm3u0d a modest proposal or two #opensource #openstreetmap #swpatsApr 15 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @seonapster online today before rest...only me http://seo.napster.web.id/websasdesigncom-cinta-blogger/ !debian !gnu !php !linux !edu ...Apr 15 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Super! Patented Mesa Floating-Point Is Merged!: Here's quite a pleasant surprise to wake up to this morning: Ope... http://bit.ly/gxTWCIApr 15 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody IBM Launches Maqetta #HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight - http://bit.ly/fZ0OEp usefulApr 15 13:41
DaemonFCyeah, no way is it going to land on VistaApr 15 13:41
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DaemonFCeven if it's out a few weeks before Vista's cutoffApr 15 13:41
DaemonFCI still don't know why anyone really caresApr 15 13:42
DaemonFCit's not like IE 10 will have anything that Firefox doesn't already have now, except maybe more security holesApr 15 13:42
DaemonFCand lack of cross platform OS supportApr 15 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz Infinite corporate power (a la Koch Bro) is deemed benign by all those who never tried to challenge it, effectively.Ex:G ...Apr 15 13:43
oiaohmReally the Floating point stuff stands a chance of getting a patent grant.  DaemonFCApr 15 13:43
oiaohmSGI is quite resonable.Apr 15 13:43
DaemonFChehApr 15 13:44
DaemonFCI think xorg-edgers will flip it onApr 15 13:44
DaemonFCUbuntu obviously is frozen until OctoberApr 15 13:44
DaemonFCso who knows what they will doApr 15 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Party UK manifesto launched - http://bit.ly/fP31hA "covers 3 main areas: Copyright and Patents, Privacy and Freedom of Speech"Apr 15 13:44
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DaemonFCGallium really needs full OpenGL 3.x compliance at the leastApr 15 13:45
DaemonFCOpenGL 2.1 is oldApr 15 13:45
DaemonFCand lots of things either use 3, or are planning toApr 15 13:45
DaemonFClike KDEApr 15 13:45
oiaohmReally opencl needs work as well.Apr 15 13:45
oiaohmBecause blender I like using is going to be using it heavily.Apr 15 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Elonex Announces Six New Budget Tablets in UK - http://bit.ly/hbB6WF from £119: nice price, but what are they like? #androidApr 15 13:46
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DaemonFCI'd rather just see them implement some modern-ish OpenGLApr 15 13:46
DaemonFCI don't care if OpenCL ever gets in because I don't use itApr 15 13:47
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:47
schestowitz"It has occurred to me that several years ago extensive evidence -- including court material -- was collected to show coordination of defamation against Microsoft/SCO critics (Winfield, JamesP, W-E, MOG and so on). Now that more time is made available as some storms are over, might there be incentive in subpoenaing the culprits through courtrooms? W-E has no magic ammunition just because it's managed externally from Microsoft."Apr 15 13:47
DaemonFCoiaohm, OpenGL 2.1 gets most of what I really need doneApr 15 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unanticipated Security Risk of Keeping Your Money in a Home Safe - http://bit.ly/h2jOUU the unexpected #japanApr 15 13:48
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DaemonFCbut I can see where over the next year or so, OpenGL 3 is going to be a requirement for lots of nice shiny thingsApr 15 13:48
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:48
oiaohmhttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/GL3.txt?id=397e47868378c386c483fda94631597af6d58405Apr 15 13:49
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oiaohmStatus on Opengl 3 development is quite well along DaemonFCApr 15 13:49
DaemonFCChakra will probably flip it onApr 15 13:49
oiaohmOpengl 4 on the other hand.Apr 15 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Farrah3m: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. - words of #wisdomApr 15 13:49
DaemonFCyeah, but until they specify that they support GLSL 1.30Apr 15 13:49
DaemonFClots of things will bitch and refuse to runApr 15 13:49
DaemonFCeven if all the extensions they use are THEREApr 15 13:50
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 13:50
DaemonFCOpenGL 4. is fairly newApr 15 13:50
DaemonFCOpenGL 3 has been out a whileApr 15 13:50
oiaohmEven having GLSL 1.30 a lot of things still will not work right.Apr 15 13:50
DaemonFCit really needs to go in, like nowApr 15 13:50
oiaohmYou are needing GLSL 3.3 or latter.Apr 15 13:51
oiaohmopps I dropped a 0Apr 15 13:51
oiaohmGLSL 3.30Apr 15 13:51
DaemonFCOpenGL 2.1 is sufficient to where most DirectX apps in Wine are happyApr 15 13:51
DaemonFCbut that's not saying a lotApr 15 13:51
DaemonFCDirectX 9 in 11 years oldApr 15 13:51
DaemonFC*isApr 15 13:52
oiaohmNo its not.Apr 15 13:52
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71095326Apr 15 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 12:48:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thanks for posting that link, I had a little bit of fun :)Apr 15 13:53
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71095358Apr 15 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Unanticipated Security Risk of Keeping Your Money in a Home Safe - http://bit.ly/h2jOUU the unexpected #japanApr 15 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android has 350,000 daily activations per day now (2.5m/week). Boy, that's a lot of #Linux and #Microsoft still tells us nobody uses Linux.Apr 15 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 12:48:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz BTW, did you read the Expedition Proposal?Apr 15 13:53
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schestowitzcApr 15 13:53
oiaohmsections of 1.30 is required really to make them happy.  DaemonFCApr 15 13:53
schestowitzWhat's that?Apr 15 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatter What's that?Apr 15 13:54
schestowitzHehApr 15 13:55
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 15 13:55
schestowitz"@miked2003 - I dont think its a case of luck that he has not been sued. I think he has chosen his words correctly and, due to solid research, there are many truths in the matters he is discussing that can not be circumvented by the individual or company in question."Apr 15 13:55
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schestowitz"Roy does a good job. In fact I often use Techrights as a resource when researching my own articles, Roy has an immense database, with links to sources all over the internet. It's invaluable when you remember something, but can't remember whether it was ZDNet or ITWorld that published the original :) He always links back to his sources, something that too few people do."Apr 15 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] indie music store day "we have records only available tomorrow" wow, still sold on making stuff scarce, they're doomed to failApr 15 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody Why #Google Should Buy the #Music Industry - http://bit.ly/hDLbMg because it *could*, and it would solve so many problems ...Apr 15 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] indie music store day "people like to show others what they own" except they don't own the music they "buy" in any form, it's licensedApr 15 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb indie music store day "people like to show others what they own" except they don't own the music they "buy" in any form, ...Apr 15 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] GUIT-AR!Apr 15 13:59
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/04/15/irc-log-14042011/Apr 15 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Learn to make open source music--Register now for a webcast with Adam Drew (@zylogz80) | http://bit.ly/fXZugAApr 15 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Logs posted for yesterday http://ur1.ca/3utfv we're getting back into the groove. Spent 2 days ago improving accessibility, yesterday: vidsApr 15 14:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: wonder if that blog is an attempt to draw out responce.Apr 15 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] #RedHat becomes cloud service provider http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/041411-red-hat-makara-cloud.html?hpg1=bn #linuxApr 15 14:03
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schestowitzoiaohm: which one?Apr 15 14:03
schestowitzzd?Apr 15 14:03
schestowitzThe author I saw beforeApr 15 14:03
schestowitzHe's pro-LinuxApr 15 14:03
schestowitzBut I have no idea who that is...Apr 15 14:03
oiaohmThat is my problem.  schestowitzApr 15 14:04
DaemonFC"Classic Desktop has been restored. Changes like global application menus and single unified menus have been reverted on user demand."Apr 15 14:04
DaemonFCyayApr 15 14:04
asdfas2wefwhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703395204576024024258782758.htmlApr 15 14:05
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asdfas2wefwYahoo Plans to Shut AltaVista, Other SitesApr 15 14:05
oiaohmschestowitz: Other point is that he is pro Linux but its not like zd to give support to other sites.Apr 15 14:05
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oiaohmschestowitz: basically it feels Odd to me.Apr 15 14:06
oiaohmschestowitz: Its either a really good sign of MS strength becoming weak or some form of trap.Apr 15 14:07
oiaohmschestowitz: Ie flame fight on there sites brings visitors brings money.Apr 15 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've started to get a lot more reply spam on Twitter lately. It only used to happen when I used certain wordsApr 15 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu's Unity Still Crashes A Lot, Usability Problems: A week ago a discussion began on the Ubuntu development ... http://bit.ly/gdyFuaApr 15 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GIMP 2.7.2 Arrives, But Still Far From Belated GIMP 2.8: Blender isn't the only free software graphics applicati... http://bit.ly/eH5AE0Apr 15 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] How would you feel if they informed you that Court filing services will stop at 14:00 and news reaches you at 15:00? Precisely: #WTF!Apr 15 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] FTP celebrates ruby anniversary (Register): http://bit.ly/dNThgVApr 15 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM Launches Maqetta HTML5 Tool as Open-Source Answer to Flash, Silverlight (eWeek): http://bit.ly/fJFbzgApr 15 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really need to see the hacking scandal covered in more #Murdoch papers, or I'll have to conclude they're not a news organisation at allApr 15 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix: !Ubuntu's #Unity Still Crashes A Lot, Usability Problems http://ping.fm/iz2d5Apr 15 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @themadhatter: very kind, many thanksApr 15 14:26
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schestowitzoiaohm: yes, but...Apr 15 14:33
schestowitzThis one is not a paid writerApr 15 14:33
schestowitzIt's British bloggers AFAIKApr 15 14:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trashbird1240/status/58877803797553152Apr 15 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr@trashbird1240: @schestowitz: Dude, nobody uses that #linux stuff #sarcasmApr 15 14:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71097149Apr 15 14:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Norbert Evenich (evenorbert)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 13:12:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And sadly I've never seen stats where Android counted as Linux.Apr 15 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 2 exciting CC announcements: CC0 & GPL compatibility; plaintext CC & CC0 legalcode! http://ur1.ca/3utk1 http://ur1.ca/3utjyApr 15 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @clemsat after a while, I find !Gwibber 3.0 much more reactive than the older ones. It just lacks a thread/context view to be really ...Apr 15 14:34
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schestowitz"@evenorbert the "L" word is evil EVIL communism http://ur1.ca/02rtd [sarcasm]"Apr 15 14:35
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TechrightsBot-tr@azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 13:30:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz MoonLie spam on planet gnome: http://is.gd/JZkP9M #monoApr 15 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @_Goblin @AirborneDude501 @Amazonia_de_Pe @AndersonFRech @AndroidSecrets @arleisilva @AugustBecker0 @CiscoNetAcad @COnservAdorBRApr 15 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat's data grid would be built on *top* of JSR-107, not as an alternative to it (Infinispan blog): http://bit.ly/eO88XpApr 15 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @Dan_Jacques @Dona_Abgail @DungaRei @ecowatches @emuparadise @ender2070 @fisl @fmgil @frmdrt @fun140 @funwithlinux @gabeiracombrApr 15 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Is Unity easy to use by new / regular users? Check this out: http://bit.ly/ibDWDvApr 15 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C releases draft for clipboard API (H): http://bit.ly/hmyF26Apr 15 14:39
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oiaohmschestowitz: Remember the traps don't have to be just the authors doing.    Just say I am not 100 percent trusting of odd.Apr 15 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow, no #wikipedia article on the symmetric viability model? Let's get to work, people! #popgenApr 15 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @kennytsushima @LeonardNimoy @linuxmintcombr @luciouberdan @maddoghall @MaraStn @MarceloBranco @Margarete3801 @MargaritarosadfApr 15 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Some Ubuntu Unity usability testing results http://lwn.net/Articles/438678/rssApr 15 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] As a follow-up on my Unity tweet, also see what the users had to say about !Ubuntu: http://bit.ly/f81F1oApr 15 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Without the #Mono http://ur1.ca/3utp3 #novell #Netrunner #moonlight #microsoft #cptn #swpatsApr 15 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Ubuntu Without the !Mono http://ur1.ca/3utp3Apr 15 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter: Still no business model (Fortune): http://bit.ly/gEcI5KApr 15 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @siduxBrasil @sinaisix @strangemagicbus @thabalwell @TheRealNimoy @Time4Linux @TPO_Hisself @twibbon @twittandokiss @unhosted @uusoksaApr 15 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @vebersol @VirtualTweet @WebUpd8 @william_telles @WilliamShatner @YahooCanadaNewsApr 15 14:54
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*MinceR wonders what all these 1 hashtag + list of nicks dents are aboutApr 15 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Extraordinary interview with Bradley Manning intelligence analyst http://is.gd/E5vvxpApr 15 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @clacke don't know exactly & don't want it to go there but if non-humans can't learn to play as equals perhaps that will be a defense.Apr 15 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @webupd8 Quite an interesting range there actually. I'm with P11, too Maccy for me. Everyone ismeant to like OSX, but not all of us do :)Apr 15 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JSR 107 and proposed data grid JSR (Pure Danger Tech): http://bit.ly/fRr7eRApr 15 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @clacke That would have been cool(er), you see a problem over what it is now?Apr 15 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Looks Like Source-Engine Garry's Mod On Linux: It looks like Garry's Mod, the sandbox physics game built atop th... http://bit.ly/eG6Ml0Apr 15 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and Microsoft, this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4 #nokia #elopApr 15 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and #Microsoft , this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4 #linux #swpatsApr 15 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] With a Massive Hardware Hack, Libyan Rebels Hijack Disabled Cell Phone Network http://bit.ly/ihO3Q8 #tpn #libya #anon #piracyApr 15 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using CC0 for public domain software - http://bit.ly/hdDJUQ interesting issue #cc0 #pdApr 15 15:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] MeeGo sees interest from others after Nokia shift (Reuters) http://lwn.net/Articles/438692/rssApr 15 15:26
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Ender_nothome3DS today ^_^Apr 15 15:28
schestowitz>>> There is a lot of unfinished business that will still be unfinished byApr 15 15:28
schestowitz>>> May 16th, not counting Novell and SCO.  There is the odious task ofApr 15 15:28
schestowitz>>> transcription of "Comes v Microsoft" exhibits. There is the Sony classApr 15 15:28
schestowitz>>> action over OtherOS and probably other things.Apr 15 15:28
schestowitz>> Apr 15 15:28
schestowitz>> You are right. But should we not wait until mid May before invitingApr 15 15:29
schestowitz>> people who leave GL?Apr 15 15:29
schestowitz> Apr 15 15:29
schestowitz> No.  We should not wait, but should make the invite again on May 16th.Apr 15 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenOffice.org to become a purely community-based project - http://bit.ly/h0gGse "no longer offer a commercial version" (v @bob_sutor)Apr 15 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Gabriella Coleman talks Education, Human Rights and Social Change | http://bit.ly/hjrhNxApr 15 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some new type of wiki spammers are now uploading spam images too. Very annoying.Apr 15 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @cwebber 2 exciting !CC announcements: !CC0 & !GPL compatibility; plaintext CC & CC0 legalcode! http://ur1.ca/3utk1 http://ur1.ca/3utjyApr 15 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle licensing: just say no (ZD Net): http://zd.net/hFn7DEApr 15 15:48
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DaemonFCjust for fun I tried getting FGLRX to give me a kernel module for Linux 2.6.39 using some patches I dug up from ArchApr 15 15:50
DaemonFCno diceApr 15 15:50
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 15:50
DaemonFCnot that I really care to go back to constant X freezes and suchApr 15 15:51
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Books Will Become - http://bit.ly/gFrpkY lots of good thoughts & insights #books #ebooks #publishingApr 15 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat becomes cloud service provider (Network World): http://bit.ly/g36DnAApr 15 15:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz, At least AMD doesn't show favoritismApr 15 15:51
DaemonFCtheir Linux driver is every bit as bad as the Windows oneApr 15 15:51
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LiMux celebrates halfway point in #Munich - http://bit.ly/dF1hwQ that's the trouble with being a pioneer #opensourceApr 15 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fossil data enter the web period - http://bit.ly/gTzs1t #opendata for dinosaursApr 15 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] OpenOffice.org to become a purely community-based project http://is.gd/Jc180u #libreoffice #lo #ooo #office #msoffice #odfApr 15 15:59
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MinceRfinally, good newsApr 15 16:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: I don't knowApr 15 16:01
schestowitzMinceR: how so?Apr 15 16:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, The open source driver stack hasn't crashed me onceApr 15 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: SCO is dead, SCO Unix lives on http://zd.net/gQSf5u And, new company CEO says no more #Linux lawsuits #SCO by @sjvnApr 15 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: It's official: Asia's just ran out of IPv4 Addresses http://is.gd/jtLCIj #Internet #IPv6 #IPv4 by @sjvnApr 15 16:01
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schestowitzOracle pulling the plug?Apr 15 16:01
Ender_nothomehttp://www.nintendo.com/3ds/built-in-software/#/5Apr 15 16:01
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DaemonFCFGLRX, it crashed X on random web pages loaded in certain browsersApr 15 16:01
DaemonFCI don't even know why that is possibleApr 15 16:02
DaemonFCbut, it isApr 15 16:02
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:02
MinceRschestowitz: being community-managed is probably the best thing that can happen to a projectApr 15 16:02
DaemonFCMinceR, Without Unity?Apr 15 16:02
MinceRschestowitz: especially one that was recently in danger of being destroyed by Law Suit Larry's modus operandiApr 15 16:02
DaemonFCor cooperation?Apr 15 16:02
DaemonFCB-)Apr 15 16:02
DaemonFCsurely you jestApr 15 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Senior Figure at Nokia: “This isn’t a deal between Nokia and #Microsoft, this is a Microsoft take over.” http://ur1.ca/3utu4Apr 15 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Nos llega un burofax de Promusicae... ur1.ca/3uu2b < #morrotienenloshijosdesumadre !eolApr 15 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Ultimate Ponzi Scheme http://is.gd/9o1WzKApr 15 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Using CC0 for public domain software - http://bit.ly/hdDJUQ interesting issue #cc0 #pdApr 15 16:03
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DaemonFCMinceR, This Unity as GPL 3 software is a shamApr 15 16:03
DaemonFCthey have nothing to lose because they get good karma for it now and can still license it however they want to whomever they chooseApr 15 16:04
DaemonFCit's nothing but a bunch of feel good crapApr 15 16:04
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:04
MinceRDaemonFC: i'm talking about OOo, thoughApr 15 16:04
DaemonFCBlOOoated Office is finishedApr 15 16:04
DaemonFCSCOracle made sure of thatApr 15 16:05
MinceRi don't give a flying fuck about unity as long as it tries to be a panel that doesn't support real tray appletsApr 15 16:05
DaemonFCsure it might linger for a whileApr 15 16:05
MinceRi simply have no use for such a panelApr 15 16:05
MinceRat allApr 15 16:05
DaemonFCbut who cares about it? LibreOffice works better than BlOooated Office ever didApr 15 16:05
MinceRmaybe if it existed alongside another panel, but i don't really see the benefitApr 15 16:05
DaemonFCeven with the Go-OO patchsetApr 15 16:05
MinceRi'm not sure if LO can really be trustedApr 15 16:05
MinceRas it's managed by novell peopleApr 15 16:05
MinceRand the only agenda novell people care about is the m$ agendaApr 15 16:06
DaemonFCI think it's fineApr 15 16:06
Ender_nothomeit is fineApr 15 16:06
DaemonFCRed Hat is backing itApr 15 16:06
DaemonFCthey wouldn't back something that was being used as an MS trojanApr 15 16:06
Ender_nothomethe worst novell could do is add OOXML supportApr 15 16:06
MinceRhow are they backing it, what are they investing in it?Apr 15 16:06
Ender_nothomeoh noes, compatibility with officeApr 15 16:07
MinceREnder_nothome: ooxml support is not "compatibility with office"Apr 15 16:07
DaemonFCit has some basic OOXML support, it's good enough to open and save most of the MS Office documents you getApr 15 16:07
MinceRit's "compatibility with a "standard" m$ wrote but never implemented"Apr 15 16:07
DaemonFCI wouldn't call it promoting OOXMLApr 15 16:07
DaemonFCthe support is still quite brokenApr 15 16:07
MinceRpretending to support ooxml is promoting itApr 15 16:08
DaemonFCthe only way you can really use it fully is with ODFApr 15 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ubuntuuser: #Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal Beta 2 Now Available http://bit.ly/gTtFu8 #linux #gnuApr 15 16:08
Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:08
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Ender_nothomeso openoffice promotes all the formats it supports? interestingApr 15 16:08
Ender_nothomealso fracking retardedApr 15 16:08
MinceRmy fault for talking to the troll.Apr 15 16:08
MinceRbblApr 15 16:09
DaemonFCBlOoatd Office has always had an OOXML export filter, they just didn't enable it by defaultApr 15 16:09
DaemonFCthe import filter is unusableApr 15 16:09
Ender_nothomemincer, theres /ignoreApr 15 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BP try to control research into Gulf oil spill http://is.gd/auA7O8 anyone surprised?Apr 15 16:09
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Ender_nothomehey daemonfc, i backed you up but im the trollApr 15 16:10
DaemonFCmehApr 15 16:10
Ender_nothomemeh...Apr 15 16:10
Ender_nothomeAfter all - I'm Rob EnderMehApr 15 16:10
DaemonFCdon't worry about those Fosstriches Apr 15 16:11
Ender_nothomeschestowitzApr 15 16:11
DaemonFCthey enjoy burying their head in the sand and vilifying anyone who ever needed to open a .doc fileApr 15 16:11
DaemonFCB-)Apr 15 16:11
Ender_nothomeyeah I stopped caring about the extremists, just trying to have a discussionApr 15 16:11
Ender_nothomewhen I was applying for jobs I had to use the .doc formatApr 15 16:11
Ender_nothomeI suppose I shouldnt have been looking for a jobApr 15 16:12
DaemonFCyeah, that will go over real well at a job interviewApr 15 16:12
DaemonFCassuming it gets to that pointApr 15 16:12
DaemonFCafter making the interviewer go download an entire office suite to read your resumeApr 15 16:12
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:12
DaemonFCODF just isn't that "accepted"Apr 15 16:12
Ender_nothome'why did u sent it in txt format?' 'i dont support capitalist microshaft'Apr 15 16:12
DaemonFCand their evil corporate zomgconspiracy!!!!Apr 15 16:13
DaemonFCsecret police!Apr 15 16:13
DaemonFCQUIT READING MY THOUGHTS!!!!Apr 15 16:13
Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:13
DaemonFCSo, let's talk salary...Apr 15 16:13
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:13
DaemonFCHow many sick days do I get?Apr 15 16:14
DaemonFCI plan to take all of them, as soon as you hire meApr 15 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle releases SQL Developer 3.0 (Inquirer): http://bit.ly/hIZBMjApr 15 16:14
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DaemonFCand lay about the house in my underwearApr 15 16:14
DaemonFCdrinking milk from the carton and watching cartoonsApr 15 16:15
Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:15
DaemonFCSay, is there a casual Friday here?Apr 15 16:15
Ender_nothomeyou remind me of wally from dilbertApr 15 16:15
Ender_nothomeI have casual Friday :)Apr 15 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "more than 91" http://is.gd/jt0eR2 what happened to "a small handful" #NoW #phonehacking #scumbagsApr 15 16:16
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Ender_nothomeI <3 dilbertApr 15 16:16
DaemonFCNow if I get an emergency phone call, it could be my goldfish, the vet gave him a few days to liveApr 15 16:17
DaemonFCWhat's your bereavement policy?Apr 15 16:17
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:17
Ender_nothomehahahahaApr 15 16:17
DaemonFCI see in your employment manual that you expect men to be "clean shaven", which is against my religious beliefsApr 15 16:19
DaemonFCA mixture of Amish and Voodoo, glad you askedApr 15 16:19
DaemonFCthere aren't many of usApr 15 16:19
Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:19
schestowitz[16:02] <MinceR> schestowitz: especially one that was recently in danger of being destroyed by Law Suit Larry's modus operandiApr 15 16:20
schestowitzI have not read the articleApr 15 16:20
schestowitzSo is Oracle still funding the developers?Apr 15 16:20
MinceRiirc that wasn't mentionedApr 15 16:21
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schestowitz[16:10] <Ender_nothome> After all - I'm Rob EnderMehApr 15 16:21
schestowitzHehApr 15 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Taking Techrights to the Next Level by Adding Video and Covering SCO http://ur1.ca/3uu63 !techbytesApr 15 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle Coherence data grid software: http://bit.ly/flDcaYApr 15 16:21
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schestowitzI was joking about how when you first came to the channels I thought you were taking the p* out of EnderleApr 15 16:21
MinceRand then you realized he's more like enderle than you thought? :>Apr 15 16:22
schestowitzMinceR: in mysql, lik 90% of the devs are lostApr 15 16:22
schestowitzSun bought mysql with about 500 devsApr 15 16:22
schestowitzNow there are about 50 in scoracleApr 15 16:22
DaemonFCMicrosoft has had some intelligent people writing good code over the years, but most of them are now dead, retired, or working for Apple or GoogleApr 15 16:22
DaemonFCand all they get left with is BallmerApr 15 16:22
MinceRwait, what? crApple has intelligent people writing good code at them?Apr 15 16:23
*MinceR didn't get the memoApr 15 16:23
schestowitzLOLApr 15 16:23
DaemonFCa fewApr 15 16:23
schestowitzKnocking which pieces to "leverage"Apr 15 16:23
DaemonFCMinceR, Apple got Dave Hyatt from Mozilla, he's not badApr 15 16:24
DaemonFCon the whole they have shitty products, but even Microsoft or Apple have a few competent people on staffApr 15 16:24
DaemonFCthat's why people like Ballmer and Jobs become CEOsApr 15 16:24
Ender_nothomeschestowitz - no I saw your quoting my twitter tweets and you said 'meh' 'Rob EnderMeh'Apr 15 16:25
DaemonFCto quash the creativity and stifle to flow of good ideasApr 15 16:25
schestowitzNo, in -social I think it wasApr 15 16:25
DaemonFCMinceR, Walmart has ipads nowApr 15 16:25
schestowitzContxt was remark from MinceRApr 15 16:25
DaemonFCI was looking at one this morningApr 15 16:25
DaemonFC$600Apr 15 16:25
schestowitzHe said something about enderle about 3 days agoApr 15 16:26
DaemonFCyou could like, buy a real computer with thatApr 15 16:26
DaemonFCa portable one even, we could call it a laptopApr 15 16:26
DaemonFCand make millions of themApr 15 16:26
schestowitzEnder_nothome: scroll uApr 15 16:26
schestowitzEnder_nothome: scroll upApr 15 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Oracle Coherence incubator: http://coherence.oracle.com/display/INCUBATOR/HomeApr 15 16:26
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schestowitzBTW, Florian and Enderle share ideas and slime nowApr 15 16:26
DaemonFCand they could run any application the user puts on them, not just what one old geezer on dialysis hand picksApr 15 16:26
DaemonFCthis is the future MinceR, the FUTURE!Apr 15 16:27
DaemonFCseriously, $600 for one of those thingsApr 15 16:27
DaemonFCat WalmartApr 15 16:27
DaemonFCthis is just so wrong on so many levelsApr 15 16:27
DaemonFCfirst it was ipodsApr 15 16:28
DaemonFCnext they'll have Macs at WalmartApr 15 16:28
DaemonFCif something is in the electronics section at Walmart, that's a good sign that it's not coolApr 15 16:28
DaemonFCit is mass producedApr 15 16:28
DaemonFCand you're not clever for having one, you are a conformist twatApr 15 16:29
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:29
schestowitzDon't use that word here, plsApr 15 16:29
DaemonFCkApr 15 16:29
DaemonFCit just makes my blood boil when I walk past the Apple display and people, or rather, these infantile creatures are gawking at some stupid hypepad like this is the world of tomorrow ride at Disney WorldApr 15 16:31
DaemonFCI cannot believe people can be this stupidApr 15 16:31
schestowitzAny way of reserving ram for x?Apr 15 16:31
schestowitzSo that it doesn't get crippled by swap allocation?Apr 15 16:31
schestowitzThis is annoyingApr 15 16:31
schestowitzMy system gets slow and not responsiveApr 15 16:32
DaemonFCyou can set your swappiness to 0Apr 15 16:32
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:32
DaemonFCthere's no reason for swappiness to be set higher than 0 on a modern system with plenty of RAMApr 15 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] The Messaging API Draft Published http://ow.ly/1ccqkwApr 15 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide Published http://ow.ly/1ccqkvApr 15 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] HTML Media Capture Updated http://ow.ly/1ccqkuApr 15 16:33
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DaemonFCthe default setting just makes your computer take forever to respond after you are away for a whileApr 15 16:33
DaemonFCthat problem is not newApr 15 16:33
DaemonFCthere's just people like cubezzz out there who will complain if Linux stops working on their 386 with 8 megs of RAMApr 15 16:34
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] No taxation without representation! A good idea?Apr 15 16:34
DaemonFCno taxation with representation eitherApr 15 16:36
DaemonFCyeah....Apr 15 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft never change, forcing people to upgrade by not making new apps compatible with older versions of #Windows http://is.gd/shVJCZApr 15 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's raw deal for Vista users: IE10 for Windows 7 only .::. Size~: 33.88 KBApr 15 16:36
DaemonFCHow does daylight theft by quasi-elected bureaucrats hold up?Apr 15 16:36
DaemonFCwe're taking plenty of thatApr 15 16:36
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:37
DaemonFCI don't get itApr 15 16:38
DaemonFCif you want to know what IE 10 will be like, just picture Firefox 4 and add a lot of bugs, security problems, remove WebM and WebGL, and picture it as Windows onlyApr 15 16:39
DaemonFCthen ask yourself if you really care what it runs on as long as it's not your computerApr 15 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Before you install Windows Home Server 2011, RTFM (seriously) http://t.co/yf66lOd Me: Seriously twisted. Surprised they shipped it.Apr 15 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Huge: Oracle announces openoffice.org to become a community based project. Dual licensing no more. http://piana.eu/openofficeApr 15 16:41
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMzMwApr 15 16:43
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DaemonFCha ha!Apr 15 16:43
DaemonFCYou use Unity!Apr 15 16:43
DaemonFC:PApr 15 16:43
DaemonFC"Some are confusing LibreOffice Calc as being a calculator"Apr 15 16:44
*DaemonFC is roflingApr 15 16:44
DaemonFC"and the Ubuntu Software Center as being a recycling bin"Apr 15 16:44
DaemonFCBAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!Apr 15 16:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz, The Ubuntu Mojave experiment?Apr 15 16:45
DaemonFCB-)Apr 15 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlopiana: Huge: Oracle announces openoffice.org to become a community based project. Dual licensing no more. http://piana.eu/openofficeApr 15 16:46
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DaemonFC"No one was able to play an MP3 file on Ubuntu as they didn't understand the plug-in search prompt."Apr 15 16:47
*DaemonFC head desksApr 15 16:47
DaemonFC"5/11 participants (P2, P3, P5, P9, P10, P11) crashed Unity during their hour of testing"Apr 15 16:47
DaemonFCniceApr 15 16:48
Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:49
DaemonFChttp://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/327b/Apr 15 16:49
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Ender_nothomelolApr 15 16:50
Ender_nothomefunny but I wouldnt buy thatApr 15 16:50
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DaemonFCEnder_nothome, How do I make Ubuntu One stop eating my RAM? Do I drag it to the big paper bag with the Ubuntu logo on it?Apr 15 16:51
DaemonFCthat is the trash right?Apr 15 16:51
DaemonFCWhat is an MP3 codec?Apr 15 16:51
DaemonFC:)Apr 15 16:51
Ender_nothomedidnt know buntu one ate ramApr 15 16:51
DaemonFCoh nevermind, it crashedApr 15 16:51
Ender_nothomescaryApr 15 16:51
DaemonFCI'm sad nowApr 15 16:51
*DaemonFC eats jono Apr 15 16:51
Ender_nothomehttp://dilbert.com/2011-04-14/Apr 15 16:51
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jonohowdy DaemonFCApr 15 16:52
DaemonFCthis is just too funnyApr 15 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Oracle pulling out of OpenOffice. Surprised they didn't even wait a year for it to prove itself. http://wmk.me/gB4rKyApr 15 16:58
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DaemonFCjono, Unity has a feverApr 15 16:59
DaemonFCand the only cure is more cowbellApr 15 16:59
DaemonFCB-)Apr 15 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I just love http://code.activestate.com Community for python code, Lots of user try to correct you code.Apr 15 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sameerverma What will they think of next? http://bit.ly/rGHqIApr 15 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @webmink Oracle pulling out of OpenOffice. Surprised they didn't even wait a year for it to prove itself. http://wmk.me/gB4rKyApr 15 17:09
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schestowitz[16:32] <DaemonFC> you can set your swappiness to 0Apr 15 17:12
schestowitzI can'tApr 15 17:12
schestowitzI run some big-arse programs that take up too much roomApr 15 17:12
schestowitz[16:34] <DaemonFC> there's just people like cubezzz out there who will complain if Linux stops working on their 386 with 8 megs of RAMApr 15 17:12
schestowitzHehApr 15 17:12
schestowitzcubezzz is outlandish to modern computing, in a good senseApr 15 17:13
schestowitzHow bloated is Unity?Apr 15 17:13
schestowitztessier_: I'm always on skype and sometimes I can try calling you if you have an account there :-) Thanks for helping out the other day, it seems like some people from Groklaw will cross over next monthApr 15 17:14
schestowitz[16:45] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, The Ubuntu Mojave experiment?Apr 15 17:14
schestowitzLOLApr 15 17:14
schestowitz[16:51] * DaemonFC eats jono Apr 15 17:15
schestowitzjono is a ROCK star, you'll choke on itApr 15 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What's Up With TransGaming's GameTree Linux?: At the beginning of January, TransGaming rolled out GameTree Linux... http://bit.ly/gkEqNtApr 15 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Torvalds Honored by Gaggle of Lawyers • by Susan Linton http://ping.fm/yvm9FApr 15 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LinuxCon Lineup Reflects Reach of Linux http://is.gd/8cnMgy #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsApr 15 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What on earth are Oracle playing at now? !openoffice http://ping.fm/MK8s9Apr 15 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Incognito Live System 0.7 seems like a more paranoid version of Ubuntu privacy remix? http://ping.fm/aoxKyApr 15 17:24
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Ender_nothomeschestowitz - another thing I noticed was that you asked me not to be political in hereApr 15 17:25
Ender_nothomefrom the logsApr 15 17:25
Ender_nothomeyet, you have laurel's crap showing up in here which is 100% politicalApr 15 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix: !GIMP 2.7.2 Arrives, But Still Far From Belated GIMP 2.8 http://ping.fm/eMN9hApr 15 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Werner Heuser: Droper - allows !Dropbox users to access and modify their synced files and folders http://ping.fm/kgdZtApr 15 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dell Launches SMB Storage Solutions — EnterpriseStorageForum.com http://ping.fm/EVp0TApr 15 17:29
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Ender_nothomebtw im voting for myself may 2ndApr 15 17:30
Ender_nothomeill spoil my ballotApr 15 17:30
Ender_nothomethen no matter who gets in I can place blame on everyone elseApr 15 17:30
Ender_nothome:)Apr 15 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Lots of upside in a community-run OO.o, but I'm wondering how much dev muscle is lost without Oracle. Or are employees still contributing?Apr 15 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @tante: http://ur1.ca/3utt4 My thoughts on #flattr after a year and the coming changes. We need more #transparencyApr 15 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Are you using CC for your @Kickstarter project? Let us know! And check out http://www.kickstarter.com/creativecommonsApr 15 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jackschofield but not everyone is a Microsoft zealot like you, Jack. You're fast to accuse others of what you did to Slashdot for example.Apr 15 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who uses GNU/Linux in Romania (1) http://tinyurl.com/6ek7msh #linux #gnu #ubuntu #romania #desktop #fossApr 15 17:38
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sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm I am thinking about running Ubuntu 11.04 for a while on real hardware,  on this PC replaceing PC Linux OS, however I know I won't like it much, so maybe i'll just end up doing for a while on real hardware, and then putting Fusion Linux on I am thinkingApr 15 17:40
sebsebsebeither way though, the little things in PC Linux OS, that annoy me, such as not always just being able to play OGG properly,  are starting to annoy me, so yeahApr 15 17:41
sebsebsebpluss the way they do Gnome isn't that good menu it comes  to the menu, but yeah Ubuntu do Gnome way worse overall since 9.04 really, but with Unity at least it makes their Gnome patching into something differnetApr 15 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: indeed, but even more pushback thereApr 15 17:44
sebsebsebas a guy basically said on Masterchef Australlia ( nisshh land ) which I was watching this morning.  As a guy basically said when was going to choose food to cook.  A lot of choice (or to much choice or whatever it was)  plays tricks on the mind, and you basically end up confussed.  Then I though of Linux distro's and how I get like that now here and there, since I don't have a test PC,  only really got this one to properly experiment with, so Apr 15 17:45
sebsebsebwant a distro that I think is good enough for what I want at the time, and easy enough to use, but it can be hard to choose.Apr 15 17:45
sebsebsebanyone about?  cubezzz Ender2070 Ender2070Apr 15 17:46
MinceR172814 < DaemonFC> first it was ipodsApr 15 17:48
MinceR172822 < DaemonFC> next they'll have Macs at WalmartApr 15 17:48
MinceR172849 < DaemonFC> if something is in the electronics section at Walmart, that's a good sign that it's not coolApr 15 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: the labels mostly do, i would have thoughtApr 15 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is brilliant. "Sick Of The Royal Wedding? There's A Bag For That" http://is.gd/TIskKM #BritishRepublicnowApr 15 17:48
MinceR172855 < DaemonFC> it is mass producedApr 15 17:48
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MinceR172908 < DaemonFC> and you're not clever for having one, you are a conformist twatApr 15 17:48
MinceRi don't see anything wrong with this pictureApr 15 17:48
MinceRcrApple products -- that's uncoolApr 15 17:48
MinceRcrApple cultists -- that's what you find in the dictionary if you look up "conformist twat"Apr 15 17:48
sebsebsebMinceR so what I typed above, any comments for that?Apr 15 17:48
MinceRsebsebseb: i don't know what might break "OGG" in that distroApr 15 17:49
MinceRas for the menu, if you really want that, you can probably patch/install itApr 15 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] do-over :D Good afternoon !identiverse (you'd think I'd be awake by now)Apr 15 17:49
Ender_nothomesebsebseb whats upApr 15 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ final proof has been shipped! http://ur1.ca/3uul5 / cc @lxoliva @CreateSpace !selfPun !Inconstant MoonApr 15 17:51
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sebsebsebEnder_nothome: what I was saying aboveApr 15 17:52
sebsebsebMinceR: or use the Mint Menu which is in PC Linux OS repo's nowApr 15 17:52
sebsebsebMinceR: kapman also lags is really slow in PC LInux OS, not a big deal really, but still something I don't likeApr 15 17:52
sebsebseboh and all those issues with choqok as well ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Apr 15 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #France Plotting to Kill the Free Internet? - http://bit.ly/g95vuA a meeting for little presidents, not the Little People #sarkozyApr 15 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ final proof has been shipped! http://ur1.ca/3uul5 / cc !selfPub !Inconstant Moon << do-over *sigh*Apr 15 17:56
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sebsebsebMinceR: also this distro is a bit weird it seems,  before on an update it installed sega dreamcast firmwire for a start!  also uhmm  I had both installed Nivida and ATI drivers it seems and such hmmApr 15 17:57
sebsebsebseems I probably have quite a few packages installed here, that I don't need installedApr 15 17:58
sebsebsebnot sure how to turn compiz on in this one eitherApr 15 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Articles of Roy Schestowitz http://is.gd/8MaEVM #gnu #linux #foss #microsoft #software #windows #office #romaniaApr 15 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke Yes, I understand that if Cinderall had been by-sa Sisney would have been so bound. Except I have the greatest respect for Disney..Apr 15 17:58
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sebsebsebMinceR: Fusion Linux is quite tempting as well :D ,but I want to try out yeah Unity some how again, and uhmmm probably really Fedora 15 when it comes out or something maybeApr 15 17:59
sebsebsebuh choice indeedApr 15 17:59
sebsebseband how it can mess with the mind sometimesApr 15 17:59
sebsebsebin this case Linux distro choice :DApr 15 17:59
sebsebsebMinceR: good job I am only thinking about putting on a few for real,  I mean there are loads of others I could consider as wellApr 15 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke ...they have infinitely deep pickets and mountains of lawyers which have successfully dictated !copyright law around the world...Apr 15 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Can #collaboration heal rising medical costs? | http://bit.ly/fD3026 collaboration #bcbsApr 15 18:01
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Ender_nothomesebsebseb - I'd say why not go with Fedora?Apr 15 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke ...including changing US !copyright terms to last 90 years past death of the author, and lobbying 4 !C32 in !Canada & #DeAct in UKApr 15 18:03
Ender_nothomerpmfusion has all the codecs and proprietary crap they cant includeApr 15 18:03
Ender_nothometwo rpms you install to add the repo for itApr 15 18:03
Ender_nothomecakeApr 15 18:03
Ender_nothomesame thing you would get with Fusion LinuxApr 15 18:03
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: I mentioned Fusion Linux aboveApr 15 18:04
sebsebsebalready tried out Fedora 13 and 14 and yeah RPMFusionApr 15 18:04
sebsebsebwasn't really that impressed with Fedora to be honest, kind of shame after trying again after all this timeApr 15 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Listen: Humpback Whale Songs That Swept the Pacific - http://bit.ly/gGEKlW these creatures continue to astound #cetaceans #cultureApr 15 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I never leave commens in blogs for reasons I've explained before http://ur1.ca/02s6o but I was compelled @ exception http://ur1.ca/3utbkApr 15 18:04
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sebsebsebwell did 11 before from a Live DVD and in a virtual machine a bit, but well my first distro was Fedora Core 2 and Fedora Core 4Apr 15 18:05
schestowitz[17:25] <Ender_nothome> yet, you have laurel's crap showing up in here which is 100% politicalApr 15 18:05
Ender_nothomesebsebseb what desktop do you useApr 15 18:05
Ender_nothomekde or gnome or somnething elseApr 15 18:05
schestowitzTrue, but it's copyright stuff a lot of the timeApr 15 18:05
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: ,but Fusion Linux is like Linux Mint, but for Fedora,  so yeah it looked really good from the review I read and video I sawApr 15 18:05
sebsebsebcomes with way more stuff and yep :)Apr 15 18:05
sebsebsebcodecs by default and all that sure, but nice graphics by default it seems as well and so on :)Apr 15 18:05
schestowitz"I did, both on LinkedIn and Facebook - I know you don't own a Facebook account ? ? !"Apr 15 18:05
schestowitzHehApr 15 18:06
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: I mainly use GnomeApr 15 18:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58934418429054977Apr 15 18:06
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz That's rich coming from one of tech's most bigoted zealots, but you Google well as a liar. What did I do to Slashdot exactly?Apr 15 18:06
sebsebsebof course going with Fusion Linux would mean going for a distro with Gnome 2, it seems,  which wellApr 15 18:06
sebsebsebwell in a way I want to use Gnome Shell more in some distro, and get used to it properly and all thatApr 15 18:06
sebsebsebor even Unity for a while, so yeah Ubuntu hmmApr 15 18:06
sebsebsebon the other hand after using Gnome 2 since 2004,  I still quite like it, even though there are little things I don't like about it in recent versions, because of upstreamApr 15 18:07
schestowitz"Rrright.... so to you, "bigot" means small vs big, but not big versus small. You fit the same conceptual model as terrorist states."Apr 15 18:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58934418429054977Apr 15 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz That's rich coming from one of tech's most bigoted zealots, but you Google well as a liar. What did I do to Slashdot exactly?Apr 15 18:07
schestowitzHaApr 15 18:07
sebsebsebyeah GDM 2 for example, but in  distro's such as, Mandriva,  PC Linux OS, and Mageia, I can easilly use the old GDM anyway so that's not a problem there :)Apr 15 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] shows how much I know, never thought about #antisemitism in !football before http://is.gd/ficjuf fascinating stuff, needs to be stamped outApr 15 18:08
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sebsebsebin distro's such as Ubuntu since 9.10 yep forced into using it, but well KDM and so on are good alternatives there,  oh and by default KDM is way better now, since the KDE 4.6/1 brandingApr 15 18:08
sebsebseband I still think the new shut down icon in Gnome is a complete jokeApr 15 18:08
sebsebseband that logout they maybe made worse,  and well at least the new logout icon is still goodApr 15 18:09
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: so yeah just little things about Gnome that I don't like really ^Apr 15 18:09
sebsebsebwell Gnome 2, not sure about Gnome 3 really yetApr 15 18:09
schestowitz"@jackschofield you know very well what you did to discredit #slashdot as a whole, misusing your position in the Guardian."Apr 15 18:09
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: I think what would happen though is if I put Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2 on which I am consideringApr 15 18:10
sebsebsebi'll have it on for a bit, hate myself for putting Ubuntu back on!Apr 15 18:10
schestowitz"@jackschofield you also ought to know that #Microsoft PR agencies intruded #slashdot to derail it. Someone who worked for Slashdot told me this privately."Apr 15 18:10
sebsebseb,because of you know how it's not going in a very nice direction, and as a expereinced user I so don't need it's training wheelsApr 15 18:11
sebsebseband then Fusion Linux, Fedora 15 or something to put on or something.   altough I am thinking maybe 11.04 for about three weeks hmm,  and even to clean install when  the final comes out some time, if I put alpha 2 on.  or  uhmm  do something good now, and 11.04 to try later. uh.Apr 15 18:12
sebsebsebEnder_nothome: or get my PC Linux OS issues more sorted if possible, and stay on this for longerApr 15 18:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58906374255554561 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58906667890388992 BSApr 15 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @jackschofield just tried to look up new comments below ZDNet #boycottboy article and it can't load now due to "technical difficulties" :-)Apr 15 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @jackschofield Now it loaded again. Looks like #boycottboy sent all three supporters he has to post comments there ;-)Apr 15 18:13
schestowitzNew obsession he has nowApr 15 18:13
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58909588610748417 http://twitter.com/rupertg/status/58918850183434240Apr 15 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @FOSSpatents I'm looking forward to the almost inevitable trainwreck as the ignoranti roll in, but @rupertg seems entirely unconcerned ;-)Apr 15 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr@rupertg: @jackschofield I just don't like hanging a man before he's done the crime. Doesn't mean I don't think he's not going to!Apr 15 18:14
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58933038314307584Apr 15 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @rupertg You mean something *more* than posting a stupidly clueless piece about a loathesome bigot? ;-) #boycottboyApr 15 18:14
schestowitzTo them, pro-Linux means "bigot"Apr 15 18:14
schestowitzPro-Microsoft=normalApr 15 18:14
schestowitzThe West uses the same propagandaApr 15 18:14
schestowitzAgainst us=terroristApr 15 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera This is brilliant. "Sick Of The Royal Wedding? There's A Bag For That" http://is.gd/TIskKM #BritishRepublicnowApr 15 18:14
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schestowitz"@rupertg the thing with @jackschofield goes way back. He basically pretends to be voice of reason whle discrediting opposing views like /."Apr 15 18:16
schestowitz"@rupertg IOW, he's part of the problem the piece is about -- the problem with sites that go against PR/consensus being defamed"Apr 15 18:17
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schestowitz"@rupertg and it's well known that in some people's minds, vs. proprietary="Zealot" and vs. Western foreign policy="Terrorist". Double-standards."Apr 15 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Detailed explanation of why UMich library moved from CC BY-NC to CC BY last October http://goo.gl/TmRopApr 15 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter @schestowitz @rms @laurelrusswurm @appropedia @rlyehbob @glynmoody @michaelgeist @doctorow #FFApr 15 18:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MLibrary & Creative Commons: Commitment to Compatibility .::. Size~: 23.22 KBApr 15 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter thanks... (you do know that @michaelgeist on identi.ca is really just a placeholder, as is @doctorow ... & both know better)Apr 15 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The rationale for Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language (Ars): http://bit.ly/ebgUAWApr 15 18:26
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MinceRrationale: "we didn't learn from java's mistake from which java has already learned"Apr 15 18:28
sebsebsebMinceR: maybe three weeks  or so with Ubuntu 11.04, you know give Unity a fair proper tryApr 15 18:28
MinceRi'm talking about ceylon though :>Apr 15 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh it's fab-tacular!Apr 15 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.37 and 2.6.33.10 http://lwn.net/Articles/438770/rssApr 15 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, PPA Now Available For Lucid Too http://bit.ly/dEiMSAApr 15 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Revival of Philip Glass/Lucinda Childs 'Dance' http://ur1.ca/3uuul Wish I could see it!Apr 15 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ohcanadian No understand geek RT @tedsaliphoto Why R political parties avoid'n the techvote? #Netneutrality & !UBB big !elxn41 #cdntechApr 15 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] A short excerpt of 'Dance' by Philip Glass and Lucinda Childs, with the film http://ur1.ca/3uuurApr 15 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good Al Jazeera story: After WikiLeaks revelations, is Nigeria ripe for its own revolution? http://bit.ly/ei2fXFApr 15 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tell us if you're coming to CC Salon Palo Alto: Open Innovation w/Henry Chesbrough on 4/25. Free but RSVP req'd! http://bit.ly/dGwZKfApr 15 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] How to make Google good again http://www.h-online.com/open/features/How-to-make-Google-good-again-1228600.htmlApr 15 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The sexual selection song, courtesy of @NIMBioS! http://ur1.ca/3uuvgApr 15 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240: We all like to copulateApr 15 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RIM CEO Stumbles Through PlayBook Damage Control (InfoWeek): http://bit.ly/fgjpF0Apr 15 18:53
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asdfas2wefwBrian Proffit's article is a nice one:Apr 15 19:08
asdfas2wefwhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/155141/lessons-learned-groklawApr 15 19:08
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twitterA good story about the state of worker rights in the US http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/04/voices-right-to-work-law-brings-you-falling-wages-80-hour-weeks.htmlApr 15 19:10
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twitterplaces that run 24 hours/day need 12 hour shifts but workers usually go 4 days on 3 days off, if they have decent bargaining powerApr 15 19:12
twitterI'm not too surprised to learn that 12 hour, 5 day weeks eventually become 12 hour, 7 day weeks.Apr 15 19:12
twitterfrom the article, "Even though working all the time is a horrible way to go through life, those getting 70+ hours a week are often considered the lucky ones. With a substantial percentage of folks either unemployed for long periods or working part-time minimum wage jobs, the employers have set up a system where the worker who does nothing but eat, sleep, and work is envied."Apr 15 19:13
twitternasty.Apr 15 19:13
twitterthey have to work like that, and send their wives to work, just to pay the mortgage. Apr 15 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 85 million downloads on 2011-04-15 18:12 UTCApr 15 19:14
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asdfas2wefwhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110415105752529Apr 15 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @MasalaCanada Elections Canada: Student votes valid, but special campus votes to stop http://ur1.ca/3uuze !cdnpoli !elxn41 > idiotsApr 15 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Shrooms limit brain blood flow and connections http://ur1.ca/3uuzrApr 15 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Young bonobo may be expressing symptoms of autism http://ur1.ca/3uuzsApr 15 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] As much as I talk shit about my Toshiba, I've had it for over a year and the battery still holds a full charge.Apr 15 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Allure of Gay Cavemen http://ur1.ca/3uv0gApr 15 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USPS accidentally issues Vegas Statue of Liberty stamp http://ur1.ca/3uv0iApr 15 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Arizona declares war on the United States http://ur1.ca/3uv0p #wtf #srslyApr 15 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/15/libreoffice-3-4-beta-1-available/ !libo !tdfApr 15 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @WilliamHoan After 5 yrs, Harper STILL hasnt produced a broadband plan & won't even discuss !UBB !elxn41 >> not to mention James MooreApr 15 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] All Languages Linked To Common Source http://ur1.ca/3uukgApr 15 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @atwaternc Atwater Village Neighborhood Daily out! http://bit.ly/gG4ILq ▸ stories via @laurelrusswurm @nickverreos1 @tastertotsla @joryApr 15 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys Kolab Groupware Server 2.3.0 has been released http://is.gd/pm8zHAApr 15 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: The rationale for #Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language http://goo.gl/OcTX4Apr 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange on the nexus of US foreign policy & big business (video) http://alturl.com/w8e23Apr 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, !PPA Now Available For #Lucid Too http://goo.gl/t2b2aApr 15 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Something driven development: Getting going with #Go (golang) http://goo.gl/gegslApr 15 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Victor Palau's Blog: An !Ubuntu Adventure: The #DELL Latitude 2120 http://goo.gl/l4P8yApr 15 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] did someone say ukulele? http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110415 #sip_and_clickApr 15 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle: OpenOffice.org to become a "community-based project" http://lwn.net/Articles/438779/rssApr 15 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] 2tu.us/39k7 #granverdad !EOLApr 15 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Over half a million people have now signed a petition calling for US to end the torture of Bradley Manning http://is.gd/yxoBL7Apr 15 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FVWM 2.6.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/438781/rssApr 15 20:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] After all that malware-wrangling, the main conclusion is I hate MalwarePipeline (Limewire).Apr 15 20:16
schestowitzHi, twitterApr 15 20:22
schestowitzThanks for commenting in here and in the blogApr 15 20:22
schestowitzMicrosoft Jack and other ZDNet folks are not arguing over these issues..Apr 15 20:23
schestowitzAnd I'm stuck here at home with a mate, brbApr 15 20:23
schestowitzI think this thing started it http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 15 20:23
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58942449665581056Apr 15 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Is it one of your deranged bits of incompetence, like your Jakob Nielsen thing?Apr 15 20:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945388048158720 https://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945388048158720Apr 15 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz Your "opposing views" are all too obviously just a vehicle for despicable smears.That's why you have no credibility cc @rupertgApr 15 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz Your "opposing views" are all too obviously just a vehicle for despicable smears.That's why you have no credibility cc @rupertgApr 15 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eebrah ♺ @kemikali: The internet might have just become sentient... "The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it."Apr 15 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Turning Journalism into Terrorism http://alturl.com/99jfuApr 15 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Was für demonstrationen in arabischen ländern? #Burka #jan25 #lybia #bahrein #egypt #arabicrevolutionApr 15 20:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackschofield/status/58945824847175680Apr 15 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz Oh, it's your usual conspiracy theory based on no facts at all, then. Still, you can't miss any chance to smear me personally.Apr 15 20:27
schestowitzHehApr 15 20:27
schestowitzWeak defence, he ignored what I claimedApr 15 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle Announces Its Intention to Move OpenOffice.org to a Community-Based Project http://lwn.net/Articles/438786/rssApr 15 20:34
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twitterMicrosoft Jack saying TR has no credibility?  LOLApr 15 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 157 dents!Apr 15 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ed @rateldajer wow RT @CGCguncontrol: Women 45% more likely to be killed by battering spouse if gun at home http://ur1.ca/3uva5 !elxn41Apr 15 20:38
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twitter"I don't have a clue what you are talking about" he says.  That's a good admission.  Perhaps he should read some more and learn.  Apr 15 20:38
twitterThese old school journalist have some nerve to knock the likes of PJ and TR.  They hardly cite references, which is a lazy habit from paper publishing.  They have not gotten used to html and links yet.  The web makes them look foolish and lazy.   People can look up their older work and see how ill founded their poorly researched work was.  Looking back at Groklaw and Techrights, people see that good research pays off.Apr 15 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the letters is rubbing off my keyboard again... so rds are coming our edsApr 15 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy fv \zecdji/dxjjApr 15 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk when tempers flare it is always more dangerous when there are weapons. Rural folk gun tradition that is not necessarily a problem...Apr 15 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh It's pretty much why i use kde. Our promo team doesn't shit on our primary distribution points. :(Apr 15 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk though when my sister was getting a divorce from her gun owning hubby, it was a concern ... yet years before when they were happy...Apr 15 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] woman who attempted suicide while pregnant accused of murder http://is.gd/q3q4Sb she needs help, not prosecutionApr 15 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ... i gave him permission to take potshots at a plaster head I had sculpted in high school art; he blew it into plaster dust.Apr 15 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Very interesting cable on Bahrain youth's perspectives on economics, politics & foreign policy http://bit.ly/gNBwbPApr 15 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Nothing happened, and after the divorce things were civil between them; shared children will do that, but it was a concern.Apr 15 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Killing with your hands is more difficult than killing with a gun. Few years back a 5 year old shot and killed another 5 year old.Apr 15 20:54
schestowitzok, friend has gone home not, now I can rebut the nonsenseApr 15 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk We *have* gun control, one reason why Canada's homicide rates are lower than US; the idea of gun registry is to keep track !elxn41Apr 15 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Discouragement by Association http://ur1.ca/3uvdn I don't usualyl comment in blogs anymore, but...Apr 15 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Discouragement by Association http://ur1.ca/3uvdn I don't usualyl comment in blogs anymore, but...Apr 15 21:01
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schestowitzOK, so I see more stuff that needs correcting in http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 15 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I haven't looked into it lately, but generally handguns limited, long guns much less so; used to shoot vermin & hunt & at gun clubs.Apr 15 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk rifles are 18 and handguns 21, for clarificationApr 15 21:09
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:10
schestowitz"The articles are very well written and all sources for the articles are documented". Let's look at that.Apr 15 21:10
schestowitzFirst, "well written". In fact they are childishly written. He plays dumb games with the names. He never talks about iPhone or iPad--they are always hypePhone and hypePad. The BBC is MSBBC. Florien Mueller is "Microsoft Florien". And so on and so on. But if anyone calls him "Spamowitz" or "Glen Schestowitz" he complains bitterly about how his enemies are attacking him.Apr 15 21:10
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:10
schestowitzCan you provide an example of me actually attacking these names? Like "Glen Schestowitz"? The childish comparison involving Beck was actually /amusing/ to me because I loathe Beck's opinions and even Fox 'News' had to let him go. I'm a liberal, not a Republican.Apr 15 21:10
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:10
schestowitzSecond, "documents". To be documented they need to cite verifiable THIRD PARTY sources. Apr 15 21:10
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:10
schestowitzLike the Comes vs Microsoft class action site? Done that. It has thousands of exhibits. Microsoft paid Conlin to have the site nuked, but many people had already grabbed copies and made identical mirrors with download logs which help verify authenticity.Apr 15 21:10
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schestowitzWhen I choose names like hypePhone and hypePad I try to make them funny, not insulting, and also a reflecting of reality. The FSF does the same thing (e.g. iBad, Swindle, Windows 7 Sins).Apr 15 21:12
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:13
schestowitzHis articles do have an impressive number of links in them. Most link back to earlier articles of his own. Try following those, and the links in those articles. It is like winning the lottery when you actually end up at a third party source and it supports what Schestowitz says it says.Apr 15 21:13
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:13
schestowitzI link to over 100 external articles per day.Apr 15 21:13
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schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:16
schestowitzHere's a good example. In this article, http://techrights.org/2010/03/17/rich-uncle-bill-explored/, he writes about Bill Gates and Bill Clinton. They both testified before Congress on the same day urging an increase in US spending on global health. He also notes that there are photos of Bill Gates and Bill Clinton sitting next to each other.Apr 15 21:16
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schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:16
schestowitzThere is far more than that. If one follows the links and does further digging, it will become apparent. Did you know, for example, that the new speech writer of Bill and Melinda is Clinton's? I wrote a lot more about it than the above, but it takes patience to learn.Apr 15 21:16
schestowitzI could provide links here, but ZDNet devours links that I put with the hypertext.Apr 15 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I for one do not welcome our new GNOME overlords. http://ur1.ca/3uvfaApr 15 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Thx to the community for helping take the "Story of Linux" to 200K+ people! Keep sharing! http://bit.ly/gaY0Zp #linuxApr 15 21:19
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schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:20
schestowitzThen, about nine months later, he writes this article: http://techrights.org/2011/01/02/vietnam-with-proprietary-software/. In that article, he cites the first article as showing "the special relationship between Clinton and Gates". Testifying on the same day in Congress and being seen sitting next to each other is a special relationship?Apr 15 21:20
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schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:20
schestowitzNo. What you say is akin to claiming that just because Biden sat next to Geffen on some arbitrary date we can suddenly deduce that Biden is in Hollywood's pocket (with copyright policy). You use an anecdote to infer that it is an *isolated* example. It's not.Apr 15 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ellison's Oracle washes hands of OpenOffice, reneges on CloudOffice (Register): http://bit.ly/flW7elApr 15 21:21
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schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303362404575580340735524682.htmlApr 15 21:22
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schestowitzClinton->GatesApr 15 21:24
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:24
schestowitzNext time he writes about Clinton and Gates and their "special relationship", he'll cite the second article, so you'll have to click through twice to see original sources and find out his claim is not supported.Apr 15 21:24
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:24
schestowitzThere are many examples which you could find. Search Techrights to find external links, too.Apr 15 21:24
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twitterbeware of Zdnet bearing articles?  twitter goes to look -> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 15 21:28
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schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:29
schestowitzHere's another good example of poor research: http://techrights.org/2011/01/12/kinect-vs-move-and-truth/. He praises Sony for selling 4.1 million Moves in 2 months, and says it is beating Kinect. I invite you to do the research that Roy either didn't do, or purposefully ignored. You'll find Kinect did 4 million in ONE MONTH, and by two months was at something like 8 million. (Oh, Sony's numbers were "sell in", and Microsoft's were "Apr 15 21:29
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schestowitzsell through". The former is how many have been pushed into the sales channel, the latter is how many have sold to consumers. I.e., Sony's numbers included stock sitting on shelves).Apr 15 21:29
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:29
schestowitzSony seems to have gamed numbers by channel-stuffing, much in the same way that Microsoft always done (and Techrights kept good record of that). If the Sony 'numbers game' fooled us, then we may have an error there, one error in a pile of 13,000+ posts (which may make the above nitpicking on being deceived by Sony, makers of rootkits and lawsuits against PS3 enthusiasts).Apr 15 21:29
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:29
schestowitzA final example: http://techrights.org/2010/08/26/aviation-and-windows-2/. He claims the crash of a Spanair plane was caused by malware. This is an outright lie. The crash was caused by the flaps being in an incorrect position at takeoff, because the pilots did not go through the preflight checklist. There was a warning system that should have warned them of this--but it was not a computerized warning system.Apr 15 21:29
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schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:29
schestowitzThat seems like revisionism from you. It has been well established that malware caused it.Apr 15 21:29
schestowitzI need to correc themApr 15 21:29
schestowitzBecause they may try to put that in Google under my nameApr 15 21:29
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:30
schestowitzThere was (possibly) malware on a computer owned by Spanair. That computer was at headquarters, hundreds of miles from the plane and crash, and was used to file maintenance reports. Its connection to the crashed flight was that if all had gone well, a day or two *AFTER* the crash, a maintenance report on that plane was due to be filed, and the computer was supposed to then notice that the plane had had the same problem three times in aApr 15 21:30
schestowitzshort period (a problem unrelated to the crash), and flag for further investigation. There is speculation that this flagging would have perhaps failed due to the malware.Apr 15 21:30
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:30
schestowitzThat's beside the point.Apr 15 21:30
Ender_nothomehahahahaApr 15 21:30
Ender_nothomegreen party won't be running in hamilton :)Apr 15 21:30
schestowitzThe context in which I wrote this post was a claim from Microsoft Florian (the lobbyist) that IBM was to blame for the crash -- a lie which he repeated several times.Apr 15 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The rationale for Ceylon, Red Hat's new programming language (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/438800/rssApr 15 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk most people can't get hand guns at all. long guns I *think* you need to not have a criminal record, helps if you belong to gun clubApr 15 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] My tummy hurts now.Apr 15 21:33
schestowitz"That's beside the point. There was malware there. The context in which I wrote this post was a claim from Microsoft Florian (the lobbyist) that IBM was to blame for the crash -- a lie which he repeated several times."Apr 15 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: maybe, I don't claim detailed knowledgeApr 15 21:34
twitterWell, if people follow the links Jack has been fed by Microsoft's best PR miners, they will see that TR has done the homework required.Apr 15 21:34
twitterHow many times has Microsoft Jack put the axe to TR?Apr 15 21:35
Ender_nothometwitter - what do you do for a livingApr 15 21:35
twitterIs his attack new?Apr 15 21:35
twitterI help cure cancer these days, why do you want to know?Apr 15 21:37
Ender_nothomeLOLApr 15 21:37
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:37
schestowitzI'll stop with the examples now, although I have dozens more (some hilarious, like a fairly recent one claiming that the iPad--excuse me, hypePad--has been a big failure commercially).Apr 15 21:38
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:38
schestowitzGot more example? Go ahead. Don't entertain the audience with mythical ones. SCO said it had "mountains of evidence" that Linux was a ripoff of 'its' UNIX. Did it show these "mountains of evidence"?Apr 15 21:38
Ender_nothomejust trying to find out what a marxist does for the marketApr 15 21:38
schestowitztwitter: sort ofApr 15 21:38
schestowitzWe have history with himApr 15 21:38
schestowitzMicrosoft Jack that is///Apr 15 21:38
schestowitzHe's chatting a lot with Microsoft FlorianApr 15 21:38
schestowitzPart of the whole anti-Linux gang in TwitterApr 15 21:38
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:38
schestowitzI challenge you to actually SERIOUSLY read Techrights for a couple of weeks. By "seriously" I mean read each article and do a good fact checking on it. Follow the links until you get to original sources. Check those sources and see if (1) they actually support what Schestowitz is citing them for, and (2) if they seem to be legitimate sources.Apr 15 21:38
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:38
schestowitzThanks for urging people to read it from the source rather than by hearsay about the site.Apr 15 21:38
twitteryes, now their attention is focused on smearing PJ and you.Apr 15 21:39
twitterNot many people reading Jack will bother to read Techrights, sadly.Apr 15 21:39
schestowitz[quote]Apr 15 21:39
schestowitzI guarantee that if you do this, you'll be posting another blog entry, retracting this one.Apr 15 21:39
schestowitz[/quote]Apr 15 21:40
schestowitzThis does not seem to be the case, does it? And I'll tell you why. Over the years we've had people who entered the IRC channels only to troll us. And you know where these people are today? They are on the channel defending us. They defected. They realised that they have been incited against a site which actually *does* defend their interests. You can go ahead and try comparing me to Beck all you want, but people who actually spend a Apr 15 21:40
schestowitzday reading me on Twitter/Identi.ca will see a stereotype mismatch.Apr 15 21:40
schestowitztwitter: Florian is only attacking me nowApr 15 21:40
schestowitzHe even said soApr 15 21:40
schestowitzNow he can just concenrate on TRApr 15 21:40
schestowitzThey almost killed all the sources which know what Microsoft really did and where to get the evidenceApr 15 21:40
twitterGiven the increased attention, I can help out by checking articles for typos if you like.  Just email them to me before publish.  I should be able to do this at night and let you know if I can't.Apr 15 21:41
twitterNit pickers love it when they can stand on a "than" instead of "then", etc.Apr 15 21:43
schestowitztwitter: we do this by wikiApr 15 21:43
schestowitzThis way we can do a diffApr 15 21:43
schestowitzAnd see what's a good correctionApr 15 21:43
twitterarticles get a wiki automatically? Apr 15 21:44
schestowitzWe use this page: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Work_in_ProgressApr 15 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Work in Progress - Techrights .::. Size~: 20.59 KBApr 15 21:44
schestowitzWe also will happily post any article that's relevant to us, written by others as guest postsApr 15 21:44
schestowitzIf you want, I can repost the slashdot summaries of Microsoft FUD and all thatApr 15 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've just posted more corrections in ZDNet.. http://ur1.ca/3utbk It's me, not a fakerApr 15 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] my son is irked that the local cop shop is closed at four and not open all weekend. Apparently just realized we live in the boonies.Apr 15 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Articles of Roy Schestowitz | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 73.74 KBApr 15 21:44
schestowitzGiven that "M$" is replaced with something else ;-)Apr 15 21:45
twitterbookmarking the works in progressApr 15 21:45
twitterthanks!Apr 15 21:45
schestowitzI check this page along with wiki editsApr 15 21:45
schestowitzWe got lots of wiki spam recently, even accounts uploading image spam to the serverApr 15 21:45
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChangesApr 15 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Recent changes - Techrights .::. Size~: 60.07 KBApr 15 21:46
twitterEnder is silly.  Thinks I'm a Marxist because he confuses ideas with property. Apr 15 21:46
twitterI wonder if he's even red Marx.Apr 15 21:48
twitterread, lolApr 15 21:48
schestowitzStill can't believe I;ve created a zd accountApr 15 21:48
schestowitzI never liked that siteApr 15 21:48
twitterI hope you used a throw away email addressApr 15 21:48
schestowitztwitter: yes, he does that sometimes. He paints people "Marxist" if they conform to some things which I find reasonableApr 15 21:48
schestowitzBut Ender_nothome is a clever guyApr 15 21:48
schestowitzI just don't agree with all the beliefs he subscribes toApr 15 21:49
twitterit is difficult to agree with nonsensical insultsApr 15 21:49
schestowitzEnder_nothome and I argued in a polite way over the syndication here because he put some stuff in there which gets piped into here and our detractors would use against usApr 15 21:49
schestowitzUntil an hour ago a friend of mine was hereApr 15 21:49
schestowitzHe follows Alex JonesApr 15 21:49
schestowitzI don'tApr 15 21:49
schestowitzBut for me it was a chance to explain to him how I view itApr 15 21:50
schestowitzFor instance, Jones promotes oil agendaApr 15 21:50
schestowitzAttacking climatologists tooApr 15 21:50
twitterAlex Jones, the US is a police state guy?Apr 15 21:50
schestowitzAnd now he overplays the Japan situation to create a stronger anti-GE and anti-nuke pushApr 15 21:50
schestowitzAs though moving to coal/oil is trouble-freeApr 15 21:50
twitterHe's right about the police state. Apr 15 21:50
schestowitzSome things yesApr 15 21:51
schestowitzSome things exaggeratedApr 15 21:51
schestowitzAnd he breeds hate not with just infoApr 15 21:51
schestowitzHe evokes some personal grief that incites peopleApr 15 21:51
schestowitzSo they basically weaken their own positionApr 15 21:51
schestowitzActually, PJ reminder me last night to use humour and stuff to get moral higher groundApr 15 21:52
twitterHe's probably right about GE and nuke stuff.  Fukushima is a fail that blows my mind.  I used to work at a GE BWR.  Apr 15 21:52
schestowitzWhen the trolls get vicious like Florian they lose the argumentApr 15 21:52
schestowitzAnd people from the outside cannot take him seriously anymoreApr 15 21:52
schestowitzGE turns out to have been the designed of that plantApr 15 21:52
twitterFukushima has totally turned me off nuclear.  Oil and coal are not answers.  Wind and solar must be.Apr 15 21:52
schestowitzThis I did not knowApr 15 21:52
schestowitzBut the episode we watched (I never watch it, but he asked me to try it) had a Professional from Kent Univ.Apr 15 21:53
schestowitzAnd it was him who made the allegationsApr 15 21:53
schestowitz*Professor I meanApr 15 21:53
twitterThe reactors at Fukushima that I've read about are GE BWR Mark 1 with Mark 1 containment. Apr 15 21:53
schestowitzThen we watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ3pPuL8Apr 15 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Inside report from Fukushima nuclear reactor evacuation zone .::. Size~: 132.72 KBApr 15 21:54
schestowitzPeople who follow that whole prisonplanet/infowar thing worry meApr 15 21:54
schestowitzThey get a very negative approach about everythingApr 15 21:54
twitterI'm ticked off that Tokyo Electric is still saying 11% Chernobyl when it's more like 60% 70% by iodine and cesium Apr 15 21:54
Ender_nothomethey've read history from outside of schoolApr 15 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Mashable - The Social Media Guide - http://mashable.com/2011/03/24/copyright-law-enforcement/Apr 15 21:54
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Ender_nothomethe more things change, the more they stay the sameApr 15 21:55
schestowitzI heard that GE uses its NBC thingie to promote nuclear and improve the image of itApr 15 21:55
twitterI'm sure.Apr 15 21:55
schestowitzEnder_nothome: yes, sometimesApr 15 21:55
Ender_nothomei dont know what the solution for power isApr 15 21:55
schestowitzEnder_nothome: I put you back on our list thingieApr 15 21:55
Ender_nothomenot everyone can hve niagra fallsApr 15 21:55
twitterWestinghouse and GE were both big nuclear investors and used TV broadcast to promote it.Apr 15 21:56
Ender_nothomewind and solar are too weak to replace what we have nowApr 15 21:56
Ender_nothomenuclear is too riskyApr 15 21:56
Ender_nothomecoal is too dirtyApr 15 21:56
schestowitzI think repetition was the problemApr 15 21:56
twitterwind and solar are not too weakApr 15 21:56
Ender_nothomeyes they areApr 15 21:56
schestowitzWhen Toby was bombarding with the same line for weeks we also removed him with his total consent (repetition acknowledged by him)Apr 15 21:56
Ender_nothomeyou would have to cut back your usage - austerityApr 15 21:56
twitterI don't thinks so.Apr 15 21:57
Ender_nothomesolar doesnt work at nightApr 15 21:57
Ender_nothomeyou would need a generator or batteryApr 15 21:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/ender2070Apr 15 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brandon Lozza (ender2070) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 67.09 KBApr 15 21:57
schestowitzEnder_nothome: we'll do video shows soonApr 15 21:57
schestowitzWe use SIPApr 15 21:57
Ender_nothomeniceApr 15 21:57
schestowitzSo if you too can put a pic up then we can enhance the thing, otherwise voice-only with tim's (and mine) faceApr 15 21:58
twitterenergy storage is not as difficult as you think, enderApr 15 21:58
Ender_nothomeI agree that these energy sources should be taxed, but I dont agree with what they want to use the money forApr 15 21:58
Ender_nothomethey wont put it into replacement technologiesApr 15 21:58
twitterlike subsidizing nuclear, oil and coalApr 15 21:58
twitterbad investment and they don't need the moneyApr 15 21:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/58934021517869056Apr 15 21:59
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @jackschofield @rupertg Last year #boycottboy bashed me on his blog for RT'ing a ZDNet UK article. 2 days later he quoted one on MSFT debt.Apr 15 21:59
Ender_nothomewe need cold fusionApr 15 21:59
schestowitzHe tries to incite zdnet against me nowApr 15 21:59
twitterit's an organized campaign, Roy.Apr 15 21:59
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jackschofield/statuses/58945824847175680Apr 15 21:59
TechrightsBot-tr@jackschofield: @schestowitz Oh, it's your usual conspiracy theory based on no facts at all, then. Still, you can't miss any chance to smear me personally.Apr 15 21:59
twitterthey try to make it look organic, but Microsoft people get their marching orders in the darkApr 15 21:59
schestowitzHe only succeeds with Microsoft JackApr 15 21:59
schestowitzWho is already poisonedApr 15 22:00
schestowitzBut Rupert the chief editor defends the side that's rightApr 15 22:00
schestowitzThat's why Florian is now trying to turn him against meApr 15 22:00
twitterthe SCO gang don't have PJ to kick around, so they are coming down on you. Apr 15 22:00
schestowitzI only wrote good things about Rupert over the yearsApr 15 22:00
twitterYou only write good things in general, Roy.Apr 15 22:00
twitterthat's why Microsoft hates you and will be sending these clowns inApr 15 22:01
*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsApr 15 22:01
schestowitz"@rupertg and in his typical fashion, Florian does fantastic lobbying job by inciting people against PJ, me, etc. I wrote positively abt you."Apr 15 22:02
schestowitz_Goblin: hiApr 15 22:02
twitterFlorian's attempt to resurrect MoG, Bott, Enderle and other discredited people caught me by surprise.Apr 15 22:02
schestowitzWe were just talking about the showApr 15 22:02
Ender_nothomeits quite possible that the reason microsoft's goal is 'a computer in every home running microsoft' is so that they can spy on the entire popluationApr 15 22:02
_Goblinhello mate brb....just gotta run downstairs for coffeeApr 15 22:02
schestowitztwitter: he flasely accused PJ or attackign BottApr 15 22:02
Ender_nothomeit would explain why Bush dropped the case that would've split the company upApr 15 22:02
schestowitzShe searched and never saw herself even mentioning himApr 15 22:02
twitterBott ....Apr 15 22:03
schestowitzSo he's inciting people against her in vain, she saidApr 15 22:03
schestowitzBoughtApr 15 22:03
schestowitz!google bought techrights laptopApr 15 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ed Bott: Bought by Microsoft | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/ed-bott-laptop-bribe/Apr 15 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Links 4/2/2011: GNOME 3.0 Laptop Debate, Unified Packaging ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/04/unified-packaging-arguments/Apr 15 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Ballnux on H-P Laptops: Fail | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/05/09/suse-linux-hewlett-packard-laptop/Apr 15 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Accuracy in Techrights | http://www.linuxine.com/story/accuracy-techrightsApr 15 22:03
Ender_nothomeBill Gates family is tied up in the affairs of the elite familiesApr 15 22:03
twitterall I have to say about Bott is to advise people to look at what he did to Peter Guttmann.Apr 15 22:03
Ender_nothomeBill and Monsanto are like two peas in a podApr 15 22:04
twitterI've got links to Bott's sins here, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/206959Apr 15 22:04
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Ender_nothomemonopoly of OS's, monopoly of foodApr 15 22:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ArriannaMarie/statuses/58971494788759552Apr 15 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@ArriannaMarie: How the Gates Foundation Privatizes Africa: http://bit.ly/gaZX0N  #BadAid #neoliberalismApr 15 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: How the Gates Foundation Privatises Africa | Techrights .::. Size~: 118.51 KBApr 15 22:05
schestowitztwitter: you can put that in the wikiApr 15 22:05
schestowitzI'd post with attribution to TR readersApr 15 22:05
schestowitzSame for all /. content, power by sharingApr 15 22:05
Ender_nothomeI hope this clears up any opinions people have of me and microsoftApr 15 22:05
schestowitzPeople can use mine free, with attrib. preferablyApr 15 22:05
twittergood ideaApr 15 22:05
schestowitzI might just edit something small like "M$"Apr 15 22:06
schestowitzIt opens us to trollingApr 15 22:06
schestowitz"Don't take TR seriously because it says "M$""Apr 15 22:06
schestowitzThey do that even if I type hypePadApr 15 22:06
twitterI should start migrating stuff from Slashdot to Techrights.  I've quit using M$ because Google does not index it.Apr 15 22:06
schestowitzEven if I did "iBad"Apr 15 22:06
schestowitzlike FSFApr 15 22:06
twitterbut M$ is a valid termApr 15 22:06
schestowitzPicking on minor thingsApr 15 22:06
Ender_nothomePeople started using MSFT instead of M$Apr 15 22:06
schestowitz"Ignore this comment because it puts dollar where the "S" goes.."Apr 15 22:06
Ender_nothomeit's more mature it it shows they are only interested in their stocksApr 15 22:07
schestowitzYesApr 15 22:07
schestowitzGroklaw writes MSApr 15 22:07
Ender_nothomesame with APPLApr 15 22:07
schestowitzMicrosoft writes MS, internallyApr 15 22:07
twitterM$ shows they are only interested in money.Apr 15 22:07
twitterthere's nothing "immature" about it.Apr 15 22:07
Ender_nothomeyeah but M$ has to bow to its shareholdersApr 15 22:07
Ender_nothomethose shareholders steer the companyApr 15 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] There's no such thing as playing #Urgehal's "Dødsmarsj Til Helvete" too many times in a row. That song is #blackmetal as it's meant to be.Apr 15 22:08
twitterThere's only one sharholder that Microsoft cares about, Bill Gates.Apr 15 22:08
Ender_nothomethere is plenty of immaturity about M$Apr 15 22:08
schestowitzThey steer strategyApr 15 22:08
Ender_nothomeits been coopted by teenegersApr 15 22:08
schestowitzAnd shareholder put faith in board of ditsApr 15 22:08
schestowitzSo it's not as simple as just shareholders driving itApr 15 22:08
schestowitzIt's driven by sociopathsApr 15 22:08
Ender_nothomethe 'im cool cause i call microshaft m$ crowd'Apr 15 22:08
schestowitzShareholders would struggle to overthrow theseApr 15 22:09
twitterit's really as simple as Bill Gates and cronies Apr 15 22:09
schestowitzUnless some white-collar criminal like Icahn steps inApr 15 22:09
schestowitzHe uses money like some people use a pistolApr 15 22:09
schestowitzHe shot down YangApr 15 22:09
twittercriminal rich help each otherApr 15 22:09
schestowitz"Activist investor" LOLApr 15 22:09
Ender_nothomeif MSFT was worth $0.10 on the NYSE then do you think they would be a global threat?Apr 15 22:09
schestowitzLike NathanM is an "inventor"Apr 15 22:09
twitterwhen it's mutually profitable Apr 15 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techbytes will use #SIP for videoApr 15 22:09
schestowitz"Nathan, what did you invent?"Apr 15 22:09
schestowitzNathanM: "a method for extorting company"Apr 15 22:10
Ender_nothomeLOLApr 15 22:10
twitterbbl, I have work to do.Apr 15 22:10
schestowitzNathanM: "it wasn't even just my idea. My mate Bill help me come up with this and funded me"Apr 15 22:10
schestowitz*CameApr 15 22:10
Ender_nothomeTraul Allen ?Apr 15 22:10
schestowitzDon't make him smileApr 15 22:11
schestowitzYou might see his beans... I mean, teethApr 15 22:11
Ender_nothomehe even trolled BillyG in his bookApr 15 22:11
schestowitzNot trolledApr 15 22:11
schestowitzDid you read the storyApr 15 22:11
Ender_nothomeyeahApr 15 22:11
schestowitzThe young napoleon wanted him money when he had cancerApr 15 22:11
schestowitzThe troll there was Ballmer (and college mate Gates)Apr 15 22:11
schestowitzBallmer is like that created from LOTRApr 15 22:12
schestowitz"My precious..... Traul"Apr 15 22:12
schestowitz*CreatureApr 15 22:12
Ender_nothomeLOLApr 15 22:12
Ender_nothomeBallmer from LOTRApr 15 22:12
Ender_nothomehahahahaApr 15 22:12
schestowitz"Bill, is that money I'm smelling?"Apr 15 22:12
schestowitzBillG: "no, I just farted"Apr 15 22:12
schestowitzRich people don't fartApr 15 22:12
schestowitzThey pass gasApr 15 22:12
schestowitzThey don't curse eitherApr 15 22:12
schestowitzJust in private chatApr 15 22:12
schestowitzWhere Bill Gates uses the F* word a lot, according to him employeesApr 15 22:13
Ender_nothomewho was it that said they dont trust anyone who doesnt curseApr 15 22:13
schestowitzHehApr 15 22:13
schestowitzSee rockefeller smiling like a doll in ChileApr 15 22:13
schestowitz!google youtube chile rockefeller airportApr 15 22:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport during ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGFWzDFjBKUwApr 15 22:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - David Rockefeller at Chilean Airport Confronted by 17 ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D71Y472oUdLkApr 15 22:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Re: David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTR4eGnwO9JYApr 15 22:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube – David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport during ... | http://www.ubim.org/youtube-david-rockefeller-confronted-at-chilean-airport-during-vacations-engspa/Apr 15 22:13
Ender_nothomeCaptain Yardley: I never liked you. You know why? You don't curse. I don't trust a man who doesn't curse. Not a "fuck" or a "shit" in all these years. Real men curse. Apr 15 22:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/58994291867009024Apr 15 22:14
TechrightsBot-tr@TechJournalist: @schestowitz you're not apexwm  (author of the post) either are you?Apr 15 22:14
Ender_nothomeFalling Down (1993)Apr 15 22:14
Ender_nothomewicked movieApr 15 22:14
schestowitzI never spoke to the guy, I saw him blog posts occasionally, but this one took me by surpriseApr 15 22:14
schestowitz"@TechJournalist did you seriously think I have other online identities? That's one of the libel types about me. I never nymshift."Apr 15 22:16
_Goblinright backApr 15 22:16
schestowitzI can't believe he fell for itApr 15 22:16
schestowitzThis is SeanApr 15 22:16
schestowitzHe should know better than to fall for itApr 15 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] FULL VIDEO of the debate on #whistleblowing w/ Julian #Assange now up http://is.gd/4UghP9Apr 15 22:16
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_Goblinschestowitz: these claims are very easy to make.....very difficult to dispute....Apr 15 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ♻ @floeff LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/04/15/libreoffice-3-4-beta-1-available/ !libo !tdfApr 15 22:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 1 available « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 31.03 KBApr 15 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Security researcher @csoghoian describes #privacy issues with @dropbox and offers a few suggestions. https://eff.org/r.13AApr 15 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: slight paranoia: How Dropbox sacrifices user privacy for cost savings .::. Size~: 148.43 KBApr 15 22:21
Ender_nothomeLOL http://dilbert.com/2011-04-12/Apr 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 27.99 KBApr 15 22:23
Ender_nothomelater getting ready to go homeApr 15 22:23
*Ender_nothome has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)Apr 15 22:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/59002316732370945Apr 15 22:23
TechrightsBot-tr@TechJournalist: @schestowitz nope i didn't think so ...and thnx to your twitter feed, it's pretty clear what you postApr 15 22:23
schestowitzThanks for followingApr 15 22:23
schestowitz[22:16] <_Goblin> schestowitz: these claims are very easy to make.....very difficult to dispute....Apr 15 22:24
schestowitzIt's like the creatiinist debateApr 15 22:24
schestowitz"Prove to me that God does NOT exist"Apr 15 22:24
schestowitzBurden of proof for existence of Santa would be the sameApr 15 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VOICES: Right-to-work law brings falling wages, 80-hour weeks http://ur1.ca/3uvnt silent injusticeApr 15 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need a nap and a shot. Doesn't matter which order.Apr 15 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ISS - VOICES: Right-to-work law brings falling wages, 80-hour weeks .::. Size~: 39.4 KBApr 15 22:24
_Goblinschestowitz: agreed.Apr 15 22:25
cubezzzdoes good exist? does evil exist? Apr 15 22:27
cubezzzlook at it that wayApr 15 22:27
_Goblinyes.Apr 15 22:27
_Goblinin a sense of negative and positiveApr 15 22:27
schestowitzI'm tempted to post another clarification in twitter/identicaApr 15 22:27
cubezzzTandy 6000 exists, but you probably never seen that either :)Apr 15 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.3-libre-lemote for !gnewsense !yeeloong now availableApr 15 22:28
schestowitzBut saying a million times that I never nymshift can legitimise that bogus opposition to the claimApr 15 22:28
schestowitzSo I decided to just respond directly to those making the erroneous claimApr 15 22:28
cubezzznot only does Tandy 6000 exist, but it can run XenixApr 15 22:28
_Goblin"every action has an equal and opposite reaction"Apr 15 22:28
schestowitzI think the Gary Stewart troll started itApr 15 22:28
schestowitzAnd some people pass around the lie he startedApr 15 22:28
schestowitzHe even put the lie in POST titles!Apr 15 22:29
schestowitzbrbApr 15 22:29
cubezzzyou can't see EM radiation but you can put up an antenna and receive tvApr 15 22:29
_GoblinI think Ive been speaking to Gary in COLA..... goes by Fla###shApr 15 22:29
_Goblin(censored to prevent him getting excited)Apr 15 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] YouTube sends users to copyright school--will content owners have to go too? https://eff.org/r.139 #copyfightApr 15 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Attack AD #humour: http://ur1.ca/3uvo6 << looks pretty silly, doesn't it. !elxn41 !fed2011Apr 15 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube Sends Users To Copyright School: Will Content Owners Have to Go, Too? | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.75 KBApr 15 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - New Attack Ad .::. Size~: 120.71 KBApr 15 22:29
_Goblinhe's not very quick.....Apr 15 22:30
_Goblinor very good...Apr 15 22:30
cubezzz_Goblin, in the olden days we used a killfileApr 15 22:30
_Goblinno way!Apr 15 22:30
schestowitz_Goblin: should we do a 10 minute segment introducing the whole video thing?Apr 15 22:30
schestowitzLike recording now quickly?Apr 15 22:30
_Goblinhalf the fun is highlighting their shortcommings for others to seeApr 15 22:30
schestowitzEp #40 Apr 15 22:30
schestowitzShort oneApr 15 22:30
_Goblincan't...I may be going on another show guestingApr 15 22:30
schestowitzOK, no probmApr 15 22:30
schestowitz*probsApr 15 22:31
_GoblinI'll find out shortly....Apr 15 22:31
_Goblinits only that I promised I would be around at end of the weekApr 15 22:31
_Goblinand they don't get together that oftenApr 15 22:31
_Goblinso I don't want to let them down.Apr 15 22:31
schestowitzOK, I guess you couldn't expend 10 minutes, either?Apr 15 22:31
schestowitzI just had in mind a quick hello episodeApr 15 22:32
schestowitzTo test the watersApr 15 22:32
_Goblinah video?Apr 15 22:32
schestowitzyesApr 15 22:32
schestowitzand audio tooApr 15 22:32
schestowitzOnly to wave hi and say a few things about the next episodeApr 15 22:32
schestowitzepisodesApr 15 22:32
_Goblinyep...Im happy to do that however at the moment ive come out of the shower (insert mental image) I don't think me in a towel would be a particularly good "hello" vidApr 15 22:32
schestowitzHehApr 15 22:33
schestowitzOK, mananaApr 15 22:33
_Goblinwell, not for tbApr 15 22:33
schestowitztb_with_webcam_sex.aviApr 15 22:33
schestowitztb_with_webcam_sex.avi      .EXEApr 15 22:33
_GoblinI think Gary is chasing me though.Apr 15 22:33
_Goblinhe's quite the fan of the show.....Apr 15 22:33
schestowitzYes, we have the crazies after usApr 15 22:33
_GoblinI don't want to encourage him though as he has a rather vulgar tone....Apr 15 22:34
schestowitzGary and the Microsoft fumesApr 15 22:34
_Goblinmind you......Apr 15 22:34
schestowitzHe's quite the vulgar sightApr 15 22:34
_Goblinme in a towel could be no more unpopular than clippyApr 15 22:34
schestowitzOr talking dogsApr 15 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a 3D fighting game with chimps called Poo FightersApr 15 22:34
_Goblinschestowitz: I tend to believe that personality is reflected in looks, if that is true then after reading Gary's posting style, I pity him.Apr 15 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] The Eagles is not working for me right now.Apr 15 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @smaffulli Tomorrow @rms speaking at Civil Hackers Union in San Francisco. Hope to see you there. Register here http://phog.ram9.cc/ !fsfApr 15 22:36
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schestowitz_Goblin: I just ignore himApr 15 22:36
_GoblinI think he's great....Apr 15 22:36
schestowitzIt's not good use of time, eitherApr 15 22:36
_Goblinhe's given me a real boost of enthusiasmApr 15 22:37
schestowitzLet hjim be obsessed with someone elseApr 15 22:37
schestowitzThe ACCESS troll had the same issueApr 15 22:37
schestowitzI explained it to my mate who came over her earlierApr 15 22:37
schestowitzhe has 2 guys like this at workApr 15 22:37
schestowitzThey obsesses over his lifeApr 15 22:37
schestowitzGary found Tim nowApr 15 22:37
schestowitzACCESS troll found Ender2070Apr 15 22:37
_GoblinI like to engage him every so often to give me even more motivation in promoting a diverse computing environment.Apr 15 22:37
schestowitzSo they have a "new" projectApr 15 22:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux - Is It Still Standing Strong? http://ur1.ca/3uvoy "...Linux could very well be much bigger than Windows."Apr 15 22:38
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schestowitz_Goblin: but he decreases your use of time for produtive purposesApr 15 22:38
schestowitzAlso, it turns illApr 15 22:38
schestowitzWhen you stop giving attentionApr 15 22:38
schestowitzThen he'll curse you for attentionApr 15 22:38
_Goblinnot really...I look at it as R&R and also gives me some inspiration for posting.Apr 15 22:38
schestowitzYou ought to know what stalker do for attention, that's why girls avoid certain guys from from the get-goApr 15 22:38
schestowitzThey have a fixation that turns pathologicalApr 15 22:39
_Goblinyeah, a little different in cyberspace and its completely on my terms.Apr 15 22:39
schestowitzCyberspace tooApr 15 22:39
schestowitzGuys who send nasty email to the girlApr 15 22:39
schestowitzLove-hate thingApr 15 22:39
schestowitzI love you, but you hate me, so I hate you too and I'll make you miserable now.."Apr 15 22:40
_Goblinoh I get the nasty email....if it had distracted me I wouldn't have written an article since 2009Apr 15 22:40
schestowitz^"Apr 15 22:40
schestowitzSomething along the lines aboveApr 15 22:40
_GoblinRequest-URI Too LargeApr 15 22:41
_GoblinThe requested URL /search... is too large to process.Apr 15 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kogan goes Linux crazy with Android devices, Ubuntu netbook http://ur1.ca/3uvpl #Linux Linux Linux... *yawn* :-)Apr 15 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kogan goes Linux crazy with Android devices, Ubuntu netbook - unity, ubuntu, tablet PCs, Ruslan Kogan, PVR, netbooks, Linux, Kogan Technologies, Android - Computerworld .::. Size~: 87.65 KBApr 15 22:41
_Goblincool!Apr 15 22:41
_Goblinnever had that before....Apr 15 22:41
_GoblinI could be funny and say it was the result of searching for "Whats wrong with Microsoft products"Apr 15 22:42
_GoblinI wont though.....I got it because I mistakenly pasted two pages of text into the search box.Apr 15 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I'd put the Linux phenomenon really as threat No. 1." -Steve Ballmer, 2001Apr 15 22:43
schestowitzMaybe work for the PR agenciesApr 15 22:43
schestowitzThey might need to squeeze in some PR about "Whats wrong with Microsoft products"Apr 15 22:43
schestowitz"They're too good!!"Apr 15 22:43
schestowitz"Whats wrong with Microsoft products that are pirated"Apr 15 22:43
schestowitzSome SEO hire for the Vole :-)Apr 15 22:44
schestowitzAnd Google gets 'clean'Apr 15 22:44
schestowitzTry 'Microsoft corruption'Apr 15 22:44
schestowitzAnd that sort of sutffApr 15 22:44
_Goblinoh...this is good......an email scam......probably the most basic yet........Apr 15 22:44
_GoblinTransfer money to your account. Proceed here. Apr 15 22:44
schestowitzYou'll probably get their solutions/products to address corruptionApr 15 22:44
_Goblinthats all it was!Apr 15 22:44
schestowitz!google  Microsoft corruptionApr 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - HOWTO: NOT Protest Against Microsoft Corruption | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/05/20/protest-against-ms-corruption/Apr 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How to troubleshoot corruption in a Microsoft Access database | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306204Apr 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Recover a corrupt PowerPoint file - PowerPoint - Microsoft Office | http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/recover-a-corrupt-powerpoint-file-HA001116878.aspxApr 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Corruption Perceptions Index « asbjorn.it | http://asbjorn.it/blog/2008/03/microsoft-corruption-perceptions-index/en/Apr 15 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Foundation's Collaboration Summit: A Recap http://ur1.ca/3uvq2 #linux #kernel #eventApr 15 22:44
schestowitzHehApr 15 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Foundation's Collaboration Summit: A Recap .::. Size~: 38.14 KBApr 15 22:44
schestowitzWe're #1 resultApr 15 22:45
_GoblinGood effort!Apr 15 22:45
_Goblin!google Microsoft failboatApr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - MS Admits PC Gaming Failboat - Evil Avatar | http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1894236Apr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Maximum PC | Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/apple_sails_photoshop_fail_boatApr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | CPU Reviews | http://www.cpureview.com/apple-sails-the-photoshop-fail-boat.htmlApr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Apple Sails the Photoshop Fail Boat | Information Technology Leader | http://www.itleader.info/2010/09/06/apple-sails-the-photoshop-fail-boat/Apr 15 22:45
twitterfood to fuel is unethical, link from RMS political notes -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/13/biofuels-targets-unethicalApr 15 22:45
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71126635Apr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Biofuels transport targets are unethical, inquiry finds | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 271.63 KBApr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 21:42:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't like the statement:"lack of fresh applications" & "windows being a more stable operating system" has this guy used ..Apr 15 22:45
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/71126638Apr 15 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 21:42:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. Linux on a PC?Apr 15 22:45
twitterfailboat, I like that imageApr 15 22:46
schestowitztwitter: it isApr 15 22:46
schestowitzEthanol?Apr 15 22:46
schestowitztwitter: addedApr 15 22:46
twitteryeah, they look at BrazilApr 15 22:46
_Goblintwitter: :)Apr 15 22:46
twitterI'm sad to see that ethanol is a bust, not so surprised to see Koch brothers making lots of money from it.Apr 15 22:46
schestowitztypicalApr 15 22:47
schestowitzLike cokeApr 15 22:47
schestowitzThey sell both sideApr 15 22:47
schestowitz*sidesApr 15 22:47
schestowitzThe alternatives tooApr 15 22:47
schestowitzIn many industries it's like thatApr 15 22:47
schestowitzThey use other brands to pretend to be the anti-selfApr 15 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxCon Lineup Reflects Reach of Linux http://ur1.ca/3uvqi http://ur1.ca/3uvqiApr 15 22:48
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schestowitzAnd then people pay the very same company they try to avoidApr 15 22:48
schestowitzLots of examples like this existApr 15 22:48
twitterhijacking the oppositionApr 15 22:48
twitter"ethanol is a bust, better go back to perto"  ha!Apr 15 22:48
twitterfalse choiceApr 15 22:49
twitterthe better alternatives may be distributed generation, such as Lovelock's biowaste and carbon sequestering, solar and windApr 15 22:49
twitterdistributed tech like that does not lend itself to monopoly and Koch like wealthApr 15 22:50
schestowitzfood for carApr 15 22:50
schestowitzMaybe we should try feed people with gasApr 15 22:50
schestowitz^sarcasmApr 15 22:50
twitterdistributed tech is also disruptive for KochApr 15 22:50
schestowitzAlthough MinceR might have other ideas, e.g. re depolulationApr 15 22:50
twitterThe Yes Men Vivoleum spoof was brilliant, fuel from peopleApr 15 22:51
schestowitzI asked some people last week if gasoline can be converted to edible stuff humans can use in the cellsApr 15 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bodhi #gnu #linux 1.0 http://ur1.ca/3uvqu "here are a few more details about what Bodhi Linux is based on and what it includes."Apr 15 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bodhi Linux 1.0 | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 100.1 KBApr 15 22:51
MinceR:>Apr 15 22:51
schestowitzVivoleum?Apr 15 22:51
twittergasoline byproducts are used to make food, with bad health consequences Apr 15 22:51
schestowitz!google Vivoleum spoofApr 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Emily Murgatroyd | Viva Vivoleum | http://www.desmogblog.com/yes-to-the-yes-menApr 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Yes Men's Vivoleum.com Forced Offline : Indybay | http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/06/29/18431696.phpApr 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Who Cut Off The Yes Men's Parody Website? | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070702/030557.shtmlApr 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - For the Record: July 2007 | http://rubenortiztorres.org/for_the_record/2007_07_01_archive.htmlApr 15 22:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/59009108178771969Apr 15 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: @schestowitz let's look at the worlds fastest super computersApr 15 22:52
schestowitzindeedApr 15 22:52
twitterHexane, for example, is used to extract oil from soybeans and it taints the oil.Apr 15 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Fbreader is a definitive must have on any device with net (even if only at home) and a big enough screen.Apr 15 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rick Mercer: Political Satire and Election 41 http://ur1.ca/3uvqo !cdnpoli !elxn41 // btw @rickmercer he's right, we DO look to you for newsApr 15 22:53
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twitterSadly, the best use for petro is plastics, lubes and structural stuff but even these can have adverse health consequences without good regulations.Apr 15 22:53
twitterand, of course, drilling is a huge messApr 15 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My program now devours 3GB of RAM (or more). Must redesign...Apr 15 22:54
schestowitznot to mention frackingApr 15 22:55
twitteryes, that too is nasty.Apr 15 22:55
twitterHere's a report from someone betrayed by oil companies  http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/04/longtime_oil_industry_champion.htmlApr 15 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Longtime oil industry champion now calls BP liars, almost a year after oil spill | NOLA.com .::. Size~: 99.51 KBApr 15 22:55
twitterHe's just beginning his journey towards understanding the people he used to trust. Apr 15 22:56
twitterRMS points to this too.  "You are not being detained, you just can't leave."  http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110412/01593813862/ice-redefines-detainment-wikileaks-helper-youre-not-being-detained-you-just-cant-leave.shtmlApr 15 22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ICE Redefines Detainment For Wikileaks Helper: You're Not Being Detained, You Just Can't Leave | Techdirt .::. Size~: 88.61 KBApr 15 22:57
twitterRMS tells people to stay away from the US based on stuff like that. Apr 15 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.33.11 and 2.6.32.38 http://lwn.net/Articles/438824/rssApr 15 22:58
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schestowitztwitter: similar in the UKApr 15 23:00
schestowitzWith "permission to go" from copsApr 15 23:01
schestowitzYou're allowed to walk away under some circumstancesApr 15 23:01
schestowitzBut they bend the law cause people here don't know the lawApr 15 23:01
schestowitzThey also trick them into speaking out needlessly and confess this way... possibly in cases where they are innocent but become carelessApr 15 23:01
twitterThe "don't touch my junk" recordings were scary because of the ambiguity and tricks used by TSA people.Apr 15 23:02
schestowitzSo best advice, some lawyers say, is to always avoid cops altogether. There's nothing to gain by speaking to them.Apr 15 23:02
schestowitzUnless you speak about a victim that's a loved oneApr 15 23:02
twitteror have a crime to reportApr 15 23:02
twitterthat's a good time to call the policeApr 15 23:03
twitterthe TSA people, on the other hand, had worked the "don't touch my junk" man into a corner.  he could not leave without incurring huge fines, so he had to wait for permission.  That's terrible intimidation.  I'm glad he's got a recording of things but he's going to suffer harassment for years, perhaps the rest of his life.Apr 15 23:04
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cubezzzit's getting rather sillyApr 15 23:05
cubezzzthere was that case with the 6 year oldApr 15 23:05
twitterit's not silly, it's muscle flexing.Apr 15 23:06
cubezzzso if you go through the full scanner they don't do the patdown?Apr 15 23:06
twitteryour corporate masters are telling you that they will sell you harmful machines you don't want and grope your privates if you objectApr 15 23:06
twitterthey only do the grope if they want to humiliate you or you "opt out" of your full body xrayApr 15 23:07
twitterThe whole "papers please" mentality that has gripped the US is very police state.Apr 15 23:12
twitterThis is correlated with wealth concentration.Apr 15 23:12
twitterAh, -> "  It’s a cultural thing and the Gates Foundation also spends over $1 per day on this “evangelisatio" " <-  I think they have more money that a buck a day.Apr 15 23:19
schestowitzoopsApr 15 23:22
schestowitz$1mApr 15 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Looking forward to this weekend, got some interesting projects on the cards....Apr 15 23:23
twitterIt's probably better to not get sucked into unfriendly sites like ZDNet.  They can delete or modify your comments there and take lots of M$.Apr 15 23:24
twitterIf you do try that, you might make a link in each comment back to a Techrights page containing your actual accounts on other sites.Apr 15 23:25
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/68810643#notice-71127064Apr 15 23:25
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schestowitztwitter: I hope people can mentally correct this typo thingApr 15 23:25
twitterI'm sure they can.  Apr 15 23:25
schestowitzOtherwise I may look foolish for itApr 15 23:25
twitterObviously a typo, only small minded people will get hung up on it. Apr 15 23:26
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twitterA TR page with actual accounts, perhaps links to them, will make it harder for people to do what they did to Bruce Perens at Slashdot.  There must have been dozens of fake Bruce Perens accounts, all spewing venomous and misleading comments.  Apr 15 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have never waited for an oggcast before, !tinap. H hour approaches.Apr 15 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It doesn’t matter how you sing along just sing along, It doesn’t matter how you turn it on just turn it onApr 15 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh we gonna bounce Two times tonight, Five times tonight, Eight times tonight, Ten times a nightApr 15 23:28
twitterNext time I fly, I think I'll bring sweat pants and spandex.  When I get to the line where I have to disrobe, I'll strip down to the spandex and a tshirt.  If they ask me for an xray, I'll opt out, but I doubt anyone would want to grope me or see the need. Apr 15 23:30
twitter"You don't think I have anything hidden in there do you?"Apr 15 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It's the newark airport boogie!Apr 15 23:31
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/71128409Apr 15 23:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Timothy Redaelli (drizztbsd)'s status on Friday, 15-Apr-11 22:28:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Java program? :PApr 15 23:32
schestowitzOctave/MATLAB :-)Apr 15 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kronos: Mañana #FLISOL Bogotá http://flisolbogota.info Hotel Andes Plaza (Chicó Norte Av 15 N. 100-11) No se lo puede perder.Apr 15 23:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP 2.7.2 - new official development release! http://ur1.ca/3uvvr make my day, GIMP! [pun[k]]Apr 15 23:36
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twitterI wonder how much of the "Linux is teh too complex for average users" nonsense came from Novell people who went on to dumb down Gnome and now complain that "Linux is toned down to the Windows level"?Apr 15 23:36
twitterI hate dumb down, it's insulting and wrong headed.Apr 15 23:37
twitterpeople want the power to make things work and they want it to be easily revealed. Apr 15 23:37
abeNd-orgmost people could care less about computers, they just want to use themApr 15 23:37
abeNd-orgif it is actually too complex for them, they will use what they know, again, they could care lessApr 15 23:38
twitterif it is as stupid as windows they will stick with windowsApr 15 23:38
twitterthey do careApr 15 23:38
twitterthey hate the upgrade churn, being forced to learn new stupid interfaces all the time and all the time and money Windows costsApr 15 23:39
schestowitz"Typo correction: where I said $1 I meant $1m (in first comment). Big difference, some people may be able to mentally correct it based on context." http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/Apr 15 23:39
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twitterPeople hate computers because of WindowsApr 15 23:39
abeNd-orgsure, you can take the population of IRC & say they care, but compare that to the rest of the world of computer users, they don'tApr 15 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Kupfer v206 Released With Improved Runtime Memory Usage, PPA Now Available For Lucid Too http://bit.ly/if2mbeApr 15 23:39
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schestowitzComputers are harmlessApr 15 23:39
schestowitzPeople don't hate computersApr 15 23:40
twitterThe lack of concern is a direct result of Microsoft propaganda. Apr 15 23:40
MinceRgnApr 15 23:40
schestowitzNo more than they hate their gadgets like hypePodsApr 15 23:40
abeNd-orgmost of the rest of the world of computer users have no clue what "windows" is, they just want to surf facebook during work hours & as long as they can do that, they are happyApr 15 23:40
twitterhypePod does not run Windows, no one loves Windows.Apr 15 23:40
schestowitzThey don't hate computersApr 15 23:40
schestowitzThey hate stuff like computer virusesApr 15 23:41
schestowitzit's not a computer problemApr 15 23:41
schestowitzIt's a Windows problemApr 15 23:41
twitterrightApr 15 23:41
schestowitzAnd it should be rightly called Windows virusesApr 15 23:41
schestowitzTell the MSBBCApr 15 23:41
twitterI do, from time to time.Apr 15 23:41
schestowitzBut don't hold your breathe, many former MS UK staff run itApr 15 23:41
schestowitzComputer virus? Then chuck the computerApr 15 23:41
schestowitzGo buy a new one... WITH VISTA.... 7Apr 15 23:41
schestowitzUpgrade treadmill accelerationApr 15 23:42
twitterthen they find out none of their favorite software works with Windows 7.  Apr 15 23:42
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twitterand that they have to buy a new version of that tooApr 15 23:42
twitterthe "refresh cycle"Apr 15 23:43
twitterit's not working so well for them these daysApr 15 23:43
twitterpeople figured it outApr 15 23:43
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abeNd-orgso far I have only run into a few programs that no longer run in win7 with my customers, & at that they are usually old ones where the company no longer existsApr 15 23:44
abeNd-orgso there is no linux or mac version eitherApr 15 23:44
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twittersee my Windows 7 fail video collection, where link to lots of YouTube user complaints.  http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/234671Apr 15 23:45
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twitterNon free software burns old software and hardware, that's the business model. Apr 15 23:46
twitterThere are lots and lots of IE 6 specific programs out there that business needs to keep using.Apr 15 23:46
twitterThey don't work with updated XP, let alone Vista or Vista 7.Apr 15 23:47
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/ "You need to read the link you cited, http://techrights.org/2010/08/26/aviation-and-windows-2/ , more carefully, as well as consider the external sources. Put the burden of proof on the right sources as your allegation is misplaced."Apr 15 23:47
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twitterAt that rate, the user is better off moving to GNU/Linux and running the old Windows crap in Virtual Box.Apr 15 23:48
cubezzztwitter, you can always hang out in #classiccmp :)Apr 15 23:48
twitterthanks, I might one day.Apr 15 23:49
cubezzzthose folks make me look modernApr 15 23:49
twitterdoxbox rocksApr 15 23:50
schestowitzI've just realised there's another lie spread by the anti-FOSS trollsApr 15 23:50
schestowitzThey say I'm "afraid" of going to eventsApr 15 23:50
twitterheh!  Apr 15 23:50
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schestowitzThey links to out-of-context remark about Novell/partners inviting me as BoycottNovell author to a conference, which I see no reason to attendApr 15 23:50
schestowitzThey try to put the "paranoid" label on people they dislikeApr 15 23:51
schestowitzThey (MOG+SCO) tried that against PJApr 15 23:51
twitterHow else can they explain the energy of your efforts other than to call you crazy?Apr 15 23:51
cubezzzclassic as in 1909 classic:Apr 15 23:51
cubezzzhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/atq/2325583852.htmlApr 15 23:51
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twitterIt would not do to say that you are simply offended by lies and love free software.Apr 15 23:52
twitterthat free software advocates are simply trying to share something good with peopleApr 15 23:52
schestowitzI will post Daily Links soonApr 15 23:52
cubezzzyou have to admit, the pre-windows era of computing can be appealingApr 15 23:53
schestowitzIf I was crazy, I'd not manage to go along with 2 simultaneous jobs plus a site over so many yearsApr 15 23:53
twitterthey would rather make free software people into villains, bitter and blinded by the success of truth, the American Way and other stuff non free software people claim to represent Apr 15 23:53
schestowitzSo people hopefully don't need some public rebuttal to that "paranoid" smarApr 15 23:53
schestowitzIn fact, it's one reason why _Goblin and I need to do video tooApr 15 23:54
schestowitzTo counter the whole suggestion of pathology or whateverApr 15 23:54
twitteryes, that's a good ideaApr 15 23:54
schestowitzPj did several audio thingsApr 15 23:54
schestowitzNo video/imageApr 15 23:54
schestowitzMaybe she doesn't want to give appearance/age awayApr 15 23:54
schestowitzAnd they annoy her to dare her to do soApr 15 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Starting to like Megadeth. Nice hockey music.... :DApr 15 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.33.11-libre1 and 2.6.32.38-libre2 sources now availableApr 15 23:54
schestowitz"Show youself or you dont' EXIST!!"Apr 15 23:54
twitterspending money to be harassed by Novell asses at some corporate event is not such a good idea.Apr 15 23:54
schestowitzAnd then they can start stalking her againApr 15 23:55
schestowitzOr do the anti-RMS trickApr 15 23:55
_Goblinschestowitz: I'm not sure if I exist or notApr 15 23:55
schestowitz"Ingore what RMS says"Apr 15 23:55
_Goblinwhat is existence anyway?Apr 15 23:55
schestowitz"Cause he has a beard"Apr 15 23:55
schestowitz"He looks disgusting"Apr 15 23:55
schestowitz"Look what he does with his toe"Apr 15 23:55
schestowitz"Don't listen to him"Apr 15 23:55
schestowitzRMS = looks like communismApr 15 23:55
twitterthat stuff, sadly, is effectiveApr 15 23:55
schestowitzAll intended to avoid people from listening to his messageApr 15 23:56
schestowitzThe /, trolls do that a lotApr 15 23:56
schestowitz /.Apr 15 23:56
twitterrightApr 15 23:56
cubezzzI tried to find the 80's RMS communism remarks and then when I tried to find it, it seemed to be goneApr 15 23:56
schestowitz"RMS will eat your kids"Apr 15 23:56
schestowitz"Stay away from RMS, he's a lunatic..."Apr 15 23:56
_Goblinand your family petApr 15 23:56
schestowitz"You don't want to be associated with zealots"Apr 15 23:56
twitterthey push it onto young and inexperienced people who are eager to fit in.  Microsoft knows their targets and victims well.Apr 15 23:57
schestowitzThen people listen to him and actually say, "hang on a minute, he's clever and nice"Apr 15 23:57
twittervery clever, but it was his writing that won me over.Apr 15 23:57
schestowitzInterviewers apologise to him as if they harass him or as though he's anti-social by their expectationsApr 15 23:57
twitteryoung programmers don't have time to read gnu.org philosophy tracts Apr 15 23:58
schestowitzI once saw in Digg suggestions that RMS was pro-pedophiliaApr 15 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.3.18 Adds Support For XI2 Raw Mouse Events: Following last week's release of the stable Wine 1.2.3, it's ... http://bit.ly/hPxIh2Apr 15 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Wine 1.3.18 Adds Support For XI2 Raw Mouse Events .::. Size~: 16.89 KBApr 15 23:58
schestowitzThis one I remember...Apr 15 23:58
schestowitzACCESS troll painted him as anti-womenApr 15 23:58
schestowitzSome portray him as gayApr 15 23:58
twitteralways something nastyApr 15 23:58
schestowitzsome as wominiserApr 15 23:58
schestowitzThey can't seem to decideApr 15 23:59
schestowitz!google us military wikipedia castro transvestite Apr 15 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - LGBT movements in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_movements_in_the_United_StatesApr 15 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - San Francisco Pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_PrideApr 15 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Theresa Sparks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_SparksApr 15 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cuban Communist Party congress looks to future - Worldnews.com | http://article.wn.com/view/2011/04/13/Cuban_Communist_Party_congress_looks_to_future_8/Apr 15 23:59
schestowitzCan't find it offhandApr 15 23:59
twitterSomeone at Forbes tried to paint him as an "Old Testament prophet"Apr 15 23:59
twitterThat one backfired.Apr 15 23:59
schestowitzThey use the same HBGary-like tactics to denounce world leadersApr 15 23:59

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