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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 @gbraad Loving the latest #linuxoutlaws podcastMar 16 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LibreOffice 3.3.2: no sign of RC2 or final release, please? http://is.gd/6vygFz #libreoffice #loMar 16 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ♺ @x11r5: @arielmt Well i would recommend the botMar 16 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ♺ @x11r5: @gbraad Loving the latest #linuxoutlaws podcastMar 16 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: RT @ovidiusoft: Linux 2.6.38 Released http://bit.ly/eugHOwMar 16 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @philippem !firebird 2.1.4 is released http://sourceforge.net/projects/firebird/files/firebird/2.1.4-Release/Firebird-2.1.4.18393-0.t ...Mar 16 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse And a very wet one it is :(Mar 16 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Looks like the #xen network #backend driver will make it into #linux #kernel 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/eDVseVMar 16 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Switchfoot - GoneMar 16 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ??? http://identi.ca/ps27499Mar 16 00:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gbraad it's the same in every !KDE distro I try, I have to assume it's a config setting I missed, not a bugMar 16 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidc #Natty testers, don't update to gdm 2.32.0-0ubuntu10, it fails to start. - http://is.gd/vbzrEU !ubuntu #testingMar 16 00:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @markey "10 Qt use cases you didn’t know": http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/03/15/10-qt-use-cases-you-didnt-know/ !Qt !Nokia !FOSSMar 16 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] great to hear conf.kde.in went so well! i'm hoping to go next year, it looked so good...Mar 16 00:57
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schestowitz> Did BT get your Internet connection yet??? Mar 16 01:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 01:05
schestowitz> Before I write further, I want to let you know that you are NOT "tooMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> serious" on the Techrights show.  You are the anchorman, and have to beMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> a /little/ serious when you cover serious topics. But I think you alwaysMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> keep a good balance and have a good sense of humour. Mar 16 01:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 01:05
schestowitz> Goblin is also a good interviewer and announcer.  Gordon seems to be theMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> wild-child of the team, one never quite knows what he might say.  WhichMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> adds a bit of suspense sometimes.  :DMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 01:05
schestowitz> The three of you work very well together, I think you are allMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> entertaining and interesting, and the show is very charming andMar 16 01:05
schestowitz> informative.  Good job!Mar 16 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] after listening Northern Lite - The Call I always want to listen to Depeche Mode's Exciter album!Mar 16 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at NetCologne GK-Büro Bonn http://b1t.it/byn #4sqMar 16 01:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identiverseMar 16 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The Impact of Internet Piracy on the Australian Economy" report - http://scr.bi/i4YSr6 is based on debunked TERA - http://bit.ly/fB4Pu9Mar 16 01:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ‘Father’ of #China’s Great Firewall Has Six #VPNs On His PC - http://bit.ly/hk6KPj just for "testing", you understand... (v @telecomix) #gfwMar 16 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] can't sleep, listen to @AesopRockWins ... http://ur1.ca/3j718Mar 16 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Downloading Europe: the Australian #copyright industry’s peculiar piracy report - http://bit.ly/hvJzSm excellent summary of its flaws #auMar 16 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] February 2011 Progress Report: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/february-2011-progress-reportMar 16 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just added the !jamendo !android app to my collection :)Mar 16 01:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: FPS Mod http://xkcd.com/873/Mar 16 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: The Last App For The Cloud http://goo.gl/hzNuYMar 16 01:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Firefox 4 to be released March 22nd http://goo.gl/4a2p5Mar 16 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Chrome Dev channel update brings new logo to Linux http://goo.gl/i67isMar 16 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The first day at the office after the 4 day long weekend... I want to go home... :(Mar 16 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DEA seizes Georgia's supply of lethal injection drug http://ur1.ca/3j7c9Mar 16 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US wants to take an axe to New Zealand IP law - http://bit.ly/dN3pPR excellent analysis of #TPP riding roughshod over #NZ laws (v @lods1211)Mar 16 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] l'open data est « un événement d’une ampleur comparable à l’apparition de l’alphabet » - http://bit.ly/hrB4KG nicely put (v @mbauwens)Mar 16 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian #Assange tells students that the web is the greatest spying machine ever - http://bit.ly/hO46RR interesting commentsMar 16 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Clara-Schumann-Gymnasium http://b1t.it/c39 #4sqMar 16 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I piss raptors on mothershipsMar 16 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Curators cater to killers of innovatorsMar 16 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need to sleepMar 16 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle Goes After #Microsoft SQL Server with #MySQL - http://bit.ly/fyAZZB about time, too #opensourceMar 16 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Standards (Or: "the long list of things that we weren’t required to do") - http://bit.ly/dTNq6c "speeding up development" #opennessMar 16 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Honour among thieves: the only way to get the best selection of TV shows & movies is to steal them - http://bit.ly/eHcYO4 but not stealingMar 16 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | I'm Seriously Impressed With #OpenSuSE 11.4 http://tighturl.com/30bw #KDE #GnomeMar 16 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google’s the Largest Torrent Search Engine, isoHunt Tells Court - http://bit.ly/hmgYeO and #google says...Mar 16 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @lxoliva I am afraid Linus alone cannot change the license of Linux. And cannot even relicense his own stuff w/o heavily forking.Mar 16 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Key Learnings from ISKME’s Research on Open Textbook Adoption and Use - http://bit.ly/fWzpcl tl;dr: it's good #opentextbooksMar 16 02:32
MinceRgeekingsMar 16 02:40
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?37589-Id-Software-prefers-directXMar 16 02:44
DaemonFC"It is really just inertia that keeps us on OpenGL at this point," Carmack said. "OpenGL still works fine and we wouldn't get any huge benefits by making the switch, so I can't work up much enthusiasm for cleaning it out of our codebase. If it was just a matter of the game code, we could quite quickly produce a DirectX PC executable, but all of our tool code has to share resources with the game renderer, and I wouldn't careMar 16 02:44
DaemonFC to go over all of that for a dubious win." Mar 16 02:44
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MinceRcarmack has fallen so farMar 16 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source, Open Research and Open Review - http://bit.ly/fxTMPo update on Open Research Computation journal #openMar 16 02:46
DaemonFCMinceR, He forgot to mention that DirectX only works on Windows and XBOXMar 16 02:47
DaemonFCPS3, Mac, and Linux put together might be 20-30% of their business, but it only takes a small effort to support them too if they stay with OpenGLMar 16 02:48
MinceRhe used to support free software, and now there's this DirectSUX crap coming from himMar 16 02:48
DaemonFCDirectX an OpenGL both basically have the same capabilitiesMar 16 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter Enables “Always Use #HTTPS” Setting - http://tcrn.ch/fx2575 go on, you know it makes senseMar 16 02:49
DaemonFCthe only reason for DirectX to even exist is to make it hard to port your stuff of of WindowsMar 16 02:49
DaemonFCFirefox could have used OpenGL on Windows but they decided that extra 10% was worth all the PR even if it meant throwing every other platform overboardMar 16 02:50
DaemonFCthey're really only interested in making it a Firefox vs IE 9 conversation at this pointMar 16 02:51
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DaemonFCand they're trying to beat Microsoft on Microosft's platform using Microsoft APIs, it won't workMar 16 02:51
schestowitz-CSIt's not supposed toMar 16 02:52
DaemonFCit's been tried, Microsoft ends up sabotaging the API so it's broken and then using a hidden private one that is only for themMar 16 02:52
schestowitz-CSWere you talking mono?Mar 16 02:52
schestowitz-CSActiveX?Mar 16 02:52
schestowitz-CSDirectX?Mar 16 02:52
DaemonFCFirefox using DirectXMar 16 02:52
schestowitz-CSahMar 16 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Congress told Internet data caps can discourage #piracy - http://bit.ly/ez73SZ as can abolishing the Internet altogether; about as usefulMar 16 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] it appears I'm looking for a fight on the developers list, so I'm closing kmail for tonight.Mar 16 02:52
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, I've been trying to figure out what the hell Chromium is doingMar 16 02:53
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schestowitz-CSI think I might eventually do the opposite of what I planned and mostly leave identica aside, then get back to RSS feeds#Mar 16 02:53
DaemonFCsometimes when I maximize a flash video I get a kernel panicMar 16 02:53
DaemonFCbut only if I'm running desktop effectsMar 16 02:53
DaemonFCdoesn't happen in Opera or FirefoxMar 16 02:53
schestowitz-CSIt uses browser canvasMar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSHow can you minimise itMar 16 02:54
DaemonFCfull screenMar 16 02:54
DaemonFC:/Mar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSfull screen is a problem in TrashMar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSIf you have two screens it maxes it on oneMar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSAnd then..Mar 16 02:54
DaemonFCyeah, I figure Firefox and Opera don't piss it off because they're both using XRenderMar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSIf you move cursor to another screen it snaps out of full screenMar 16 02:54
schestowitz-CSWhich makes it rather uselessMar 16 02:55
DaemonFCChromium is using OpenGL directlyMar 16 02:55
DaemonFCOpera 11.5 is going to be using OpenGL as the default backend for VegaMar 16 02:55
DaemonFCbut apparently the user can override it and go back to using XRender if they really have toMar 16 02:56
DaemonFCGallium drivers don't like too many things open and trying to use direct rendering/composite at the same timeMar 16 02:56
DaemonFCor so it seemsMar 16 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] your #astroturfing $ at work #BalancedCopyrightForCanada http://twitpic.com/49ils4 read the comments with a sick bag handy, well done JesseMar 16 02:57
DaemonFCI've thought about going back to classic Mesa but it's not worth the performance drop when all I usually have to do is whack alt-shift-f12 a couple times to get KWin to stop corrupting the screen after I exit a game or somethingMar 16 02:58
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, Compiz is not your friend if you use FGLRXMar 16 02:59
DaemonFCunless you like buttons and menus going blank randomlyMar 16 02:59
DaemonFCI tried out Compiz 0.9.4 with GNOME and both panels showed up blankMar 16 03:00
DaemonFCI thought it was the GNOME 3 preview for a momentMar 16 03:00
schestowitz-CSYeahMar 16 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free Software University - http://bit.ly/icqx1F "university courses for free over the internet using an “open source” model" #educationMar 16 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://bit.ly/eHcYO4 << the article #BalancedCopyrightForCanada referenced in that pic and are hell bent on flooding with paid shillsMar 16 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @michelenlared #Natty testers, don't update to gdm 2.32.0-0ubuntu10, it fails to start. - http://is.gd/vbzrEU !ubuntu #testingMar 16 03:01
schestowitz-CSCan  happen with any driver sometimesMar 16 03:01
DaemonFCvideo hardware is just buggy no matter what you doMar 16 03:01
DaemonFCoh wellMar 16 03:02
schestowitz-CSMehMar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSUbuntu all over Linux newsMar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSThis is tiringMar 16 03:03
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, What is this Linux you speak of?Mar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSI like Ubuntu, but it feels like Linux advocacy now it stroking Mark's TM and egoMar 16 03:03
DaemonFCGoogle tells me I want UbuntuMar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CS /it/is/Mar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSOr Google'sMar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSIn the case of mobile at leastMar 16 03:03
DaemonFCget away from my Ubuntu with your LinuxMar 16 03:03
DaemonFCaway!Mar 16 03:03
schestowitz-CSI do it with UbuntuMar 16 03:04
schestowitz-CSRight now I'm on Fedora thoughMar 16 03:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I am curious if there's more than a few of the haters on that post who are actually real people, ie not paid to troll and attackMar 16 03:04
DaemonFCBacon.... nom nom nomMar 16 03:04
DaemonFC:PMar 16 03:04
DaemonFCI think Bacon made that Ubuntu theme for Windows 7 so it looks like he's using Ubuntu if he has to take a screenshot Mar 16 03:05
MinceR:>Mar 16 03:07
MinceRDaemonFC: he meant GNU/Linux.Mar 16 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] GNOME Outreach Program for Women internships - http://bit.ly/eDCX0I hurry hurry hurry (v @gnome @linuxmagazin)Mar 16 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] arguably the scariest thing about #astroturfing is when they're subtle enough to have their desired effect & not be noticed by the majorityMar 16 03:07
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, I built Marak Olsak's Mesa tree, the floating point oneMar 16 03:07
DaemonFCand got the S3TC libraryMar 16 03:08
DaemonFCSauerbraten responded wellMar 16 03:08
DaemonFCI'm averaging 100-140 fps on it, which is pretty good reallyMar 16 03:08
DaemonFCFGLRX gets maybe 160-200Mar 16 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in some cases, like this one, it's so fuckin obvious, they may as well wear luminous signs, even the average Joe has them sussedMar 16 03:09
DaemonFCMinceR, You heard about the problem instanced drawing causes right?Mar 16 03:12
MinceRnoMar 16 03:12
DaemonFCThe user can't see the forest because of THE tree B-)Mar 16 03:12
DaemonFCwell, I thought it was clever anywayMar 16 03:14
DaemonFCnot much of a forest because it just clones the same tree modelMar 16 03:14
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 03:14
MinceRcould probably work with a couple more tree modelsMar 16 03:15
DaemonFCI remember a few years ago Microsoft was bragging about "procedural synthesis" which is basically just, I feed a model tree to an algorithm that warps it a thousand different ways according to an algorithm and makes a forest out of thatMar 16 03:16
DaemonFClike it was some amazing accomplishmentMar 16 03:16
DaemonFCThat must have taken an entire afternoon and a whole 1 developer to come up with the software to do thatMar 16 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Open Source, Open Research and Open Review - http://bit.ly/fxTMPo update on Open Research Computation journal #openMar 16 03:17
DaemonFC"procedural synthesis" was really just their way of saying, "go buy a new GPU because it has to render blades of grass separately now"Mar 16 03:18
DaemonFCMinceR, It's a field of grass, with trees, all of which are statistically differentiatedMar 16 03:19
DaemonFCgo buy a $300 GPUMar 16 03:19
DaemonFChttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2011-March/006063.htmlMar 16 03:22
DaemonFC"The Hurd kernel doesn't have DRM yet."Mar 16 03:22
DaemonFCYes, I saw them protesting itMar 16 03:22
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 03:22
schestowitz-CSFar from it...Mar 16 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is anything nuclear ever really super safe small and simple? - http://bit.ly/f8SxPi interesting analysis of nuclear past & future #japanMar 16 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cue another display of "putting them in their place" from MPs & "contrite innocence" from bankers http://tighturl.com/30c2 result? #nochangeMar 16 03:22
MinceRnot the same DRM.Mar 16 03:22
DaemonFCI know :)Mar 16 03:23
DaemonFCMinceR, The Hurd is DRMMar 16 03:27
MinceRnopeMar 16 03:27
DaemonFCnot having functional drivers does restrict how you can use itMar 16 03:27
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 03:27
MinceRಠ_ಠMar 16 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seriously sinister salt in Shanghai - http://bit.ly/g2hBO9 *salt*?Mar 16 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting article on #eBooks and publishing http://tighturl.com/30c3Mar 16 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if I could find an email from @JesseBrown I'd love to invite him on !TechBytes for an interviewMar 16 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @opensuse: Planet !openSUSE: Andreas Jaeger: First Survey on openSUSE Version naming is open now http://bit.ly/hnzLcGMar 16 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sirius launches round-the-clock Network Operations Centre - http://bit.ly/h5BpQf who says there's no support for #OSS? #ukMar 16 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 10 best alternative operating systems http://is.gd/ETKK0o #freedom #softwareMar 16 03:37
DaemonFCsad that most of the activity for KHTML is going on in the "Trinity" KDE 3 forkMar 16 03:42
DaemonFC:(Mar 16 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @popey: It seems Canonical has a design "Team", which doesn't a) talk to eachother, or b) talk to it's users. #ubuntuMar 16 03:42
DaemonFCthats why the user can redesign it on the flyMar 16 03:43
DaemonFCthrough judicious use of apt-get install, apt-get purge, and of course GCC is thereMar 16 03:43
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 03:43
schestowitz-CSit is users :-)Mar 16 03:45
schestowitz-CSpopey complains about CanonicalMar 16 03:45
schestowitz-CSWowMar 16 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @pioneeronetv: Mark your calendars: episode 3 drops on March 28 !ccMar 16 03:46
DaemonFChe usually kisses their ass iircMar 16 03:46
DaemonFCmaybe he's an employeeMar 16 03:46
DaemonFCI don't knowMar 16 03:46
DaemonFCyou'd have to be an employee or a suck up to sign off on that horrid music storeMar 16 03:46
MinceRthe new term is "peanut gallery" :>Mar 16 03:47
schestowitz-CSLOLMar 16 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #sendai #earthquake with fore- and aftershocks. Woah, I had no idea they were so many. http://youtu.be/xylDxj6-9dY #googleearth #animationMar 16 03:47
DaemonFCyou mean CHRIS PIRILLO can use the LINUX now that it's more like Mac OS?Mar 16 03:48
DaemonFCthat's fantasticMar 16 03:48
DaemonFCwhen will itunes arrive?Mar 16 03:48
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 03:48
*DaemonFC throws one of those unsupported Linux nightlies of Songbird at MinceR Mar 16 03:49
DaemonFC:DMar 16 03:49
schestowitz-CSPrillo...Mar 16 03:50
schestowitz-CSIs he still around much?Mar 16 03:50
schestowitz-CSHe seems to have done off the radar a bit in recent yearsMar 16 03:50
schestowitz-CSLike failed and disgraced movie starsMar 16 03:51
MinceRDaemonFC: i don't really care about songbird until it can shuffle the playlist :>Mar 16 03:51
DaemonFCIt's VLC lugging around Mozilla, why can't you LOVE it?Mar 16 03:52
DaemonFCDAMMIT!Mar 16 03:52
MinceR(and by shuffle i mean shuffle, not play the intact playlist in random order)Mar 16 03:52
DaemonFCLOVE IT!Mar 16 03:52
MinceRi don't really care for having a web browser in my music playerMar 16 03:52
DaemonFCwhat if I told you it could emailMar 16 03:52
DaemonFCand had a clock and ReversiMar 16 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Today: trial against #wikileaks domain owner and #TOR exit node operator http://ow.ly/4fvVS #tpn #anon #piracy #freespeechMar 16 03:52
DaemonFCNOW how much would you pay for this ADVANCED operating system?Mar 16 03:52
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 03:53
MinceR:>Mar 16 03:53
MinceRwell, since it has a web browser in it, it can really do all thatMar 16 03:53
DaemonFCKonqueror feels faster than Firefox 4Mar 16 03:55
DaemonFCeven though it does really poorly on synthetic benchmarksMar 16 03:55
DaemonFCI think this is what synthetic benchmarks have done to the web browserMar 16 03:55
DaemonFCthey focus on cheating the test than performing well under real usage patternsMar 16 03:55
DaemonFC*rather thanMar 16 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @czajkowski Bloody hell, does anyone in the canonical design team actually talk to one another in there? Really?? http://is.gd/hZCVKRMar 16 03:56
DaemonFC"Oh look, it's 10 ms faster than Chrome on Sunspider!"Mar 16 03:57
DaemonFCMe: "That's nice, why am I still waiting for my webmail to load?"Mar 16 03:57
DaemonFC"Hello!?"Mar 16 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This really is an amazingly evocative video short, posted on Tumblr by @themactep http://bit.ly/gKqvY3Mar 16 03:57
MinceRbecause your webmail is bloated as hell :>Mar 16 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] secret Aussie piracy report revealed to be a copy of a previously debunked report, complete with the same mistakes http://tighturl.com/30c7Mar 16 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] anpc.gov.ro .. timed out... Va mai amintiti "MCSI a transferat infrastructura TIC a ANPC pe platforma tehnica de tip Supercomputing"....:-)Mar 16 03:59
DaemonFCwhat is YAML?Mar 16 04:02
DaemonFCOpera says that they're rewriting their user interface in itMar 16 04:02
MinceRa serialization language like JSON, only more complexMar 16 04:03
MinceRiircMar 16 04:03
DaemonFCyou'd think it would be better to pick a toolkit and use it than to toss it every major version and start overMar 16 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matthew Paul Thomas proposes that the application title should be removed from !Unity's menu bar. http://goo.gl/Nosez !uMar 16 04:04
DaemonFCthey got rid of QT and now they're complaining that their new toolkit "QUICK" is too hard to manage across platforms'Mar 16 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @TheOpenNetwork: !OpenSource is socialism at its best: Free and open are powerful concepts http://bit.ly/iblmasMar 16 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh into this maelstrom they want to introduce a whole new environment (Unity) on their own. Predictions? It'll get hammered in reviewsMar 16 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @intermediatech !Linux kernel 2.6.38 ( stable) has been released - http://www.kernel.org #linux #kernelMar 16 04:06
DaemonFC7248 files changed, 740492 insertions(+), 457160 deletions(-)Mar 16 04:06
DaemonFCand the merge window has been open, what, a day?Mar 16 04:06
DaemonFCdamnMar 16 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] might be a wise idea to delay Unity until 11.10 to give time to sort stuff out #Canonical #Ubuntu rather than release to bad reviewsMar 16 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Everest is a piece of shit.Mar 16 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38-libre-lemote binary .debs now available for !gnewsense !yeeloongMar 16 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Zmeul, personajul pozitiv din basmele românești http://is.gd/GYeeKj #romaniaMar 16 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh too easy to climb? after a more energetic challenge? that's a mice ski lift you have thereMar 16 04:17
DaemonFCit might be a good idea to keep Unity in their stupid Netbook Edition and give people with real computers GNOME 3Mar 16 04:26
DaemonFCthat's just me I guessMar 16 04:26
DaemonFCnot that I'm fond of GNOME 3, but it is more usable and stable than UnityMar 16 04:27
MinceRthere's no point to giving netbooks crippled GUIsMar 16 04:28
DaemonFCof course there is, Windows 7 has done a great job of destroying that marketMar 16 04:29
DaemonFCjust like intendedMar 16 04:29
DaemonFCand upselling anyone who actually stayed to WIndows Home PremiumMar 16 04:29
DaemonFCfor a MERE $78 more :)Mar 16 04:29
DaemonFCbut, that's a bargain, for the advanced operating environ.... Hey, where the hell is Reversi!? I've been robbed!Mar 16 04:30
DaemonFCBALLMEEEEEEER!!!!!Mar 16 04:30
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 04:30
DaemonFCReversi, plagiarized Othello Mar 16 04:31
DaemonFCWindows, Mac ripoffMar 16 04:31
DaemonFCIE, a malware platform posing as a web browserMar 16 04:31
DaemonFCDirectX, OpenGL: Windows EditionMar 16 04:31
DaemonFCwhat a teamMar 16 04:32
DaemonFCMinceR, At least Objective C is the same thing on every platform, you can't say this about C#Mar 16 04:33
DaemonFCsay what you will about Apple, but at least Objective C isn't a total abortionMar 16 04:33
DaemonFCright?Mar 16 04:33
DaemonFCGCC actually supports it fairly wellMar 16 04:34
DaemonFCC#...managed code you can't manageMar 16 04:34
DaemonFCit never does the exact same thing on different versions of WindowsMar 16 04:35
DaemonFCor different architectures and the same version of WindowsMar 16 04:35
DaemonFCMinceR, Have you ever installed Paint .NET?Mar 16 04:35
DaemonFCyou know the part where it says optimizing for your platform?Mar 16 04:36
DaemonFCit's actually trying to patch itself up depending on what version of Windows you have and if it's on 32-bit or 64-bit x86Mar 16 04:36
DaemonFCthat's why it takes so long to installMar 16 04:36
DaemonFChe wasn't lying when he said Windows XP SP2 wasn't supported, there's some .NET functions that you can only get on SP3Mar 16 04:37
DaemonFCso now it's not even working consistently on the same WIndows version on the same CPU architectureMar 16 04:38
DaemonFCbecause you don't have service pack whateverMar 16 04:38
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 04:38
*DaemonFC upgrades MinceR to Windows XP SP3 Super Turbo Ballmer Edition with an Anytime Vista7 upgrade (to Basic, so he can pay them more for Aero Glass)Mar 16 04:39
*DaemonFC is a nice guyMar 16 04:39
DaemonFCMicrosoft was pissed when they found out people were patching the theming system in Vista Basic to enable Aero Glass supportMar 16 04:40
DaemonFCthe theme service just looks at pidgen.dll and if you haven't paid them for Home Premium, it disables GlassMar 16 04:41
DaemonFCI think the patch was like all of 5 kilobytes including the EXE it was wrapped in B-)Mar 16 04:41
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schestowitz-CSLousy MATLAB... http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/237208Mar 16 04:42
schestowitz-CSUselessMar 16 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @mjjzf With friends like this, who needs enemas? !qMar 16 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Yay! ♻ @0d1: #libreoffice arrived #Debian testingMar 16 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @debian: LibreOffice is now available in #Debian 'Wheezy'. Backports for 'Squeeze' are being worked on. http://bit.ly/fPuSzxMar 16 04:44
schestowitz-CShttp://groups.google.com/group/mathtools/browse_thread/thread/0bb41e07d1b285aeMar 16 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] What Would Jesus Do? ur1.ca/3j8hr !atheismMar 16 04:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] working on a concept for plasma around universal "share, like and associate"Mar 16 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] GNU/Linux Swap Space http://is.gd/MTXR16 #gnu #linux #free #softwareMar 16 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pgralla: Could Windows Phone 7 eventually go the way of the Zune? http://bit.ly/eEVd9b #microsoft #wp7 #mobile WindowsMar 16 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] For All The Promises Of Transparency, #Obama Administration Responding To Fewer #FOIA Requests - http://bit.ly/ea7Rkv pathetic back peddlingMar 16 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful supportMar 16 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As Data Retention Looms In Sweden, It Is Already Useless - http://bit.ly/ho4eYu an arms race governments can't win #privacyMar 16 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat fights back http://is.gd/LDRsKT #redhatMar 16 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Nuclear power is a symbol of old economic thinking: centralised, expensive and with untold problems" - http://bit.ly/fS7ImD interestingMar 16 05:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robsanchezjr/@robsanchezjr] ♺ @glynmoody: Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful support !wikileaksMar 16 05:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how to get rid of #Gadaffi, fast: ur1.ca/3j8qo :)Mar 16 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is the Genetic Rights Movement Picking Up Steam? - http://bit.ly/dNsPhi "genetic information the exclusive property of the individual" #dnaMar 16 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Donated €150 to Red Cross pro Japan. You can do the same: http://ur1.ca/3j8qw -- They surely need that PLS RT/RDMar 16 05:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Überraschung: StreetView ist legal. - http://bit.ly/fjEYwv court says Google StreetView is legal #germanyMar 16 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. House committee votes to repeal EPA Endangerment Finding and prohibit regulation of greenhouse gases - http://bit.ly/eBJnoJ shamefulMar 16 05:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Firefox 4 Gets March 22 Public Release Date - http://tnw.co/ikxjDL dear diary #mozilla#Mar 16 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] conf call with Oslo done; this is turning into my most productive day this month :)Mar 16 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Anne-Frank-Hauptschule http://b1t.it/c43 #4sqMar 16 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @carlopiana Donated €150 to Red Cross pro Japan. You can do the same: http://ur1.ca/3j8qw -- They surely need that PLS RT/RDMar 16 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Firefox 4 Gets March 22 Public Release Date - http://tnw.co/ikxjDL dear diary #mozilla#Mar 16 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Is the Genetic Rights Movement Picking Up Steam? - http://bit.ly/dNsPhi "genetic information the exclusive property... #dnaMar 16 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: As Data Retention Looms In Sweden, It Is Already Useless - http://bit.ly/ho4eYu an arms race governments can't win #privacyMar 16 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful supportMar 16 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: For All The Promises Of Transparency, #Obama Administration Responding To Fewer #FOIA Requests - http://bit.ly/ea7Rkv patheticMar 16 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-16: GNU Free Call Announced This looks like an excellent initiative to create a decentralised... http://wmk.me/hxgi8NMar 16 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @brunomiguel: NASA: Japan quake appears to have shortened Earth days, shifted axis http://ur1.ca/3j8h1Mar 16 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: LibreOffice is now available in #Debian 'Wheezy'. Backports for 'Squeeze' are being worked on. http://bit.ly/fPuSzxMar 16 06:06
MinceR123344 < DaemonFC> say what you will about Apple, but at least Objective C isn't a total abortionMar 16 06:14
MinceRnot so sure about thatMar 16 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: Training Session: !Ubuntu Translations QA Workflows http://goo.gl/gzhMiMar 16 06:14
MinceRit looks like someone vomited all over CMar 16 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter adds HTTPS log-on (Twitter) http://bit.ly/fdlgB8Mar 16 06:19
schestowitz-CSMinceR: he's illMar 16 06:21
schestowitz-CSLeave him aloneMar 16 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] AOL Asks Us If We Can Tone It Down (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/gODFMOMar 16 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Edeka M.Kipping http://b1t.it/c5g #4sqMar 16 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks blames Japanese government for nuclear plant collapse http://is.gd/WNW6X6 !wlMar 16 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @declanm Lady Gaga demands #copyright control on photographs http://ow.ly/4fyh6 >>just how #copyright is supposed to workMar 16 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU ACTA negotiators’ notes still secret - http://bit.ly/ftS3FY the #acta farce continues #transparencyMar 16 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Every time this professor says "low albedo" I think "That's a problem in some marriages"Mar 16 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New York slashes hospital spending, can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks - http://bit.ly/gyiJSa how do these CEOs look in mirror?Mar 16 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Schultz: Diving into the Linux Networking Stack, Part I http://lwn.net/Articles/433787/rssMar 16 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] I applaud Red Hat http://ur1.ca/3j9cdMar 16 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Clara-Schumann-Gymnasium http://b1t.it/c39 #4sqMar 16 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ويكيليكس | تنشر "الأخبار" اليوم دفعة جديدة من الوثائق حول لبنان ومصر في طبعتها الورقية على أن توضع على الموقع في وقت لاحق !wlMar 16 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Routesy founder talks open data, gives advice to civic developers and government | http://bit.ly/eY3t6z #opengov #gov20Mar 16 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: New York slashes hospital spending, can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks http://bit.ly/gyiJSa how do these CEOs lookMar 16 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: Watch the Video of !Debian winning two Linux New Media Awards at http://www.techcast.com/events/cebit11/do11Mar 16 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: EU ACTA negotiators’ notes still secret - http://bit.ly/ftS3FY the #acta farce continues #transparencyMar 16 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: I applaud Red Hat http://ur1.ca/3j9cdMar 16 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "... Oracle just freeloads off of Red Hat’s distribution." Indeed. http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8414/Mar 16 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Routesy founder talks open data, gives advice to civic developers and government | http://bit.ly/eY3t6z #opengov #gov20Mar 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks cables reveal #Burma Arms Deals http://shar.es/3U5NV !wlMar 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm with @fabsh: switching to !xfce because !gnome is running really slow right now on !fedoraMar 16 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Duncan McGreggor: Call for Testing: nVidia Cards in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/PErvjMar 16 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !UbuntuOne Contacts sync heading to #Thunderbird http://goo.gl/8Rr8yMar 16 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange grills Australian PM Julian Gillard on state spying | ABC http://alturl.com/dwhww !wlMar 16 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] David Letterman's Top 10 Reasons To Buy iPad 2 http://gizmo.do/dNT5WDMar 16 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It was such heavy sarcasm I did not think I had to put (sarcasm) in dent. Thanks for all the concern :-)!GNU !LinuxMar 16 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @packet_storm: WhisperCore App Encrypts All Data On Android http://bit.ly/fNqE13Mar 16 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] "A New Start" (Theme Pack) 1.2 Brings Updated GTK And AWN Themes, Lots More http://bit.ly/ifVDuxMar 16 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Deadly crackdown on Bahrain protests http://alturl.com/acm5t !wlMar 16 07:31
oiaohmhttp://www.freesoftwareuni.com/  this is interesting.Mar 16 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Supported Features in the new Linux kernel (xkcd): http://bit.ly/fYrYMJMar 16 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] New #Empathy icon! http://goo.gl/Lh3yjMar 16 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released http://alturl.com/icd9a !wlMar 16 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 I really like Gnome 3.Mar 16 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @zackwhittaker: University in 'serious'; data breach; Publishes 17,000 students' data http://zd.net/dK9eFM #privacy #securityMar 16 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: Hundreds of new #WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNewsMar 16 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @lilo78: #slackware 13.37rc2 released #gnu #linux #free #softwareMar 16 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RoAndroid: RT @AlexBartis: 3G wifi hotspot acuma pe #Motorola #Milestone cu android 2.2 :) #romania #androidMar 16 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Sistemul de plata online al Primariei Sector 6 a fost suspendat temporar pt folosirea CNP-ului drept cheie http://is.gd/4U2eTV #privacy #roMar 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Libre Graphics Meeting: Cutting Edge Creative Tools Meet Free Culture - http://is.gd/3IuStz #libregfxmtg #community #eventsMar 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @Joab_Jackson: Supported Features in the new #Linux #kernel (xkcd): http://bit.ly/fYrYMJ #gnu #freeMar 16 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Red Hat and the Kernel Kerfluffle http://is.gd/A4LSUq #Linux #RedHat by @jzb #redhatMar 16 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @aurele: Linux Libre Kernel Receipe Update :: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Libre-Kernel !lp !linuxlibre #tipsMar 16 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Arab nightmare - http://bit.ly/fAqFXd depressingly plausible (v @techsoc)Mar 16 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ed Vaizey’s Net neutrality roundtable with Tim Berners Lee - http://bit.ly/fz4GpI handy report of today's meeting #netneutralityMar 16 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] unexpected but good conversation with Brian Proffit on the phone just now about Qt and the community. beat the opengov drum, FreeQt drumsMar 16 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Orasul unde vezi moartea cu ochii: Cernobil, la 25 de ani dupa tragedie http://is.gd/Q41T15 #romania #chernobyl #photoMar 16 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #lfcollab Summit Preview: QA w/Lead Linux Kernel Maintainer Andrew Morton: http://bit.ly/fN0DXR #linuxMar 16 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Ed Vaizey’s Net neutrality roundtable with Tim Berners Lee http://bit.ly/fz4GpI handy report of today's meeting #netneutralityMar 16 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of Navigation Timing http://ow.ly/1bNl7aMar 16 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Discussion of Open Web Platform for All at WWW 2011 http://ow.ly/1bNl7bMar 16 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rares_petrisor: daca vreti sa ajutati japonia, Crucea Rosie Romana a deschis doua conturi speciale http://ow.ly/4fIBH #japanMar 16 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @escapetofreedom: Hmmm... #Motorola makes WiFi-only Xoom official: $599 on March 27th -- Engadget http://engt.co/hp7ShJMar 16 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF urges judge to reject dangerous new copyright troll strategy - 'reverse class action' lawsuit https://eff.org/r.z6UMar 16 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More on the #TPPA IP proposal – aarrgghh even for an AUSFTA-burdened #Australia - http://bit.ly/fmx5SE australian perspective (v @mgeist)Mar 16 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Fusion E-350 Linux Performance: By now you have likely seen the AMD Fusion E-350 APU showcased on a number o... http://bit.ly/ebo223Mar 16 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] #Newegg, why do you label the category "Operating Systems" when all you have there is #Windows 7?Mar 16 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Knowledge Conference (#OKCon) 2011: 30th June & 1st July - http://bit.ly/ee5fR6 Call for Participation & Registration is open! #berlinMar 16 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Netherlands open source report says no savings can be made - http://bit.ly/g64WUb "did not consider other benefits of open standards & OSS"Mar 16 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Report Says #CETA IP Provisions Would Increase Consumer Prices, Royalty Deficit - http://bit.ly/dS34TE good move, #Canada...notMar 16 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] man, i'm still getting used to this whole "we'll send you an invoice" thing here in switzerland for personal purchases.Mar 16 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jasonHoyt @BoraZ Think twitter adding 400K users/day is huge data? #Mendeley users add 400K documents/day. Now that's huge data. ;)Mar 16 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tibetan monk burns himself to death in protest against Chinese rule - http://bit.ly/gHndBz sad people feel driven to this #tibet #chinaMar 16 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1 in 4 College Textbooks Will Be Digital By 2015 - http://rww.to/ekJV5j unstoppable #ebooks #educationMar 16 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i'm also getting used to the yoghurt here. it actually tastes good. i dislike the yoghurt we get in north america.Mar 16 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] had a great design session for share/like/connect infrastructure today in #plasma. itching to write code for it!Mar 16 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyrighting Pi: Composer Pretends Only He Can Write A Song Based On Pi - http://bit.ly/gZ8M5c this is where "owning" ideas leads #copyrightMar 16 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New Poll: Can open source take over the world? | http://bit.ly/gMcKKNMar 16 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Moving beyond the Microsoft Monoculture http://ur1.ca/3jai8Mar 16 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... The shit really has hit the fan in #Fukushima. It's hard to keep up with all the disasters going on there...Mar 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Context is broken in !heybuddy 259 it looks like....Mar 16 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] "I have a bright professional future ahead of me [...] Girls like me don’t do porn, right?" http://redd.it/g57y6 !sexpositive !sex !lgbtMar 16 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I love it finding out that something I need is really easy to make: http://www.whats4eats.com/blogs/chefbrad/how-to-make-chickpea-flourMar 16 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #ACTA isn't even in force, and we've got #TPPA = "Son of ACTA" in progress. http://ping.fm/c51IF #stupidity #ipmafiaMar 16 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Fukushima right now: 3 meltdowns, 1 reactor has damaged core containment & cooling basins with spent fuel are burning.Mar 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good <ahem> morning !identiverseMar 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I need to check my #Windows XP EULA to make sure I can publish my novel commercially using XP fonts without infringing !copyright ...Mar 16 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... but I can't find the #Windows XP EULA in my Windows folder ... not called #EULA or #License ... does anyone know what it is named?Mar 16 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Expert for radiological safety on German TV: 500km around #Fukushima will be huge problem zone.Mar 16 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Please see photos :( http://tinyurl.com/4qswkr3 #japanMar 16 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Never miss a birthday again with Birthday-Aware for Ubuntu http://goo.gl/I0rUFMar 16 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RWE has legal objections to the fucking federal government telling them to shut their nuclear plants down? WTF!? GSG9 should raid their HQ!Mar 16 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Could Windows Phone 7 eventually go the way of the Zune? By @pgralla http://bit.ly/eEVd9b Me: Yep.Mar 16 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mcyle Schneider says #Fukushima possibly worse than Chernobyl.Mar 16 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Markus’ Little Blog: Short Review of !GNOME Shell http://goo.gl/HNq0uMar 16 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Anyone seeing trouble with IE 9 and Adobe Flash? Works fine for me, but several of my readers are having install problems.Mar 16 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the #gnomeshell battery indicator. Looks so nice and clean! :DMar 16 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: SVG Compositing Specification http://ow.ly/1bNougMar 16 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @fontana: ♻ @glynmoody Copyrighting Pi: Composer Pretends Only He Can Write A Song Based On Pi - http://bit.ly/gZ8M5c ...Mar 16 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hahaha..... @th3k4ty has caused her first mass identica debate! :DMar 16 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cambridge students removed from #Assange talk for alleged recording - http://bit.ly/fjHif7 hmm... (v @newsbrooke)Mar 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Deadly crackdown on Bahrain protests http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/20113164383... http://bit.ly/eX6QqZMar 16 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNews http://bit.ly/fOxqK6Mar 16 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Student Outreach: Ashesi University College announce a semester of Open Design projects http://mzl.la/dQr27QMar 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Drizzle, a new Cloud and web NoSQL database reaches general availability (H): http://bit.ly/gMJgYjMar 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @wikileaks: Hundreds of new !WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNewsMar 16 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Firefox 4 to be released March 22 (Barring any show-stopping bugs) (mozilla.dev.planning): http://bit.ly/gb2yTCMar 16 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear !Lazyweb have you a suggestion for #Drupal6 taxonomy based scrolling text module?Mar 16 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] !Polyamory and !poly will now point to the same group! You only need to use one of the tags now =] @maymaymMar 16 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Young New Yorkers eschew sex for capitalism (The New York Observer): http://bit.ly/gVDpYzMar 16 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Tip for running Arduino on Fedora - http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Linux/Fedora #fbMar 16 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @threethirty ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools!Mar 16 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Spring http://ur1.ca/3jaz6Mar 16 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the way workspaces just disappear in #gnomeshell when you drag windows off them. :)Mar 16 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[elbek/@elbek] !wikileaks Japon fue advertido por eeuu en 2008 sobre sus plantas nucleares y un super-terremoto http://is.gd/o7ESF5Mar 16 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] US news must suck again. All the US folks seem blissfully unaware of the catastrophe in #Fukushima. Asking me how I feel today? Really???Mar 16 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxmagazine: Five Great #Games for #Linux http://ow.ly/4fE6l <- Osmos truly rocks. 'Nuff said. #LMNews #gnuMar 16 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cdibona: Need a handbrake preset for the Xoom? I gotcha covered: http://bit.ly/e3yVEt #motorola #xoom #androidMar 16 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @openSUSE: Planet #openSUSE: SUSE Studio: Upgrade your older appliances to openSUSE 11.4 http://bit.ly/gTM2g2 #gnu #linuxMar 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools! #audio #softwareMar 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: 3 Reasons Why #Gov20 and #OpenGov Are Different From Past Gov Reform Efforts http://om.ly/BPUCwMar 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jperlow: Emperor Akihito addresses his people "Never give up hope" http://j.mp/gZf8jiMar 16 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools!Mar 16 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks wikileaks: Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNews http://bit.ly ...Mar 16 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Nixon didn't jail @DanielEllsberg, but: Under Obama, Better to Commit a War Crime Than Expose One huff.to/gdHjJJ /via @WLLegalMar 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Cambridge students removed from #Assange talk for alleged recording - http://bit.ly/fjHif7 hmm... (v @newsbrooke)Mar 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Japanese government and Tepco still in denial, methinks. #FukushimaMar 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Privacy International peers at Skype #security http://is.gd/M7Wlxi #privacyMar 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #ARD is evacuating Tokio. German government is preparing to fly out citizens. #FukushimaMar 16 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Fecking monsoons!Mar 16 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] US government wants a #privacy bill of rights http://is.gd/WmXfRKMar 16 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Il prossimo che dice "senza se e senza ma" giuro che lo insulto.Mar 16 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Java EE 7 specification gets unanimous approval (Network World): http://bit.ly/ehzOlsMar 16 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If only Microsoft was spending all this money contributing to open source browsers instead of wasting innovation in a closed one.Mar 16 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @elbek #japon antes y despues del tsunami http://is.gd/ZlyWIj por Google Earth << awesome before & after images #wearealljapaneseMar 16 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eek #NateDogg has died http://tighturl.com/30dy aged 41Mar 16 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Japan earthquake may have shortened length of days and shifted Earth’s axis (Gizmag): http://bit.ly/dJSfFjMar 16 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] only 5 matches for an unrepentant repeat offender? seems like a light sentence that will change nothing http://tighturl.com/30dzMar 16 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple delay #Japan #iPad2 launch http://tighturl.com/30e0 wouldn’t be because they don't want upstaged by a natural disaster would it?Mar 16 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a #UK specific version requires extra staff http://tighturl.com/30e1 kinda difficult with staff deserting it like rats form a sinking shipMar 16 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mobile phones are 'Stalin's dream' says free software movement founder http://is.gd/4BvX6p Nice article on #Stallman. #security #privacy !fsMar 16 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] large corps LOVE shouting about the numbers when they're good, but they "refused to give numbers" on people who signed up to pay for itMar 16 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @webmink: If only Microsoft was spending all this money contributing to open source browsers instead of wasting innovation in a closed oneMar 16 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Viviane Reding on the warpath again, good job. http://is.gd/xQm8zb #EU #privacy #righttobeforgottenMar 16 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Fighting the weed I call Froblemacz and comparing it with the Christian battle against sin. http://cli.gs/UdEh0PMar 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Trying my hand at redesigning the NBLUG logo. I need some inspiration.Mar 16 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The threat of parallel filing | http://bit.ly/iiMOxa #swpatentsMar 16 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Linux kernel goes faster (Network World): http://bit.ly/h2Aa1xMar 16 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/433879/rssMar 16 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @cassidyjames Five reasons not to "upgrade" to #IE9: http://ur1.ca/3jbky #Chrome #FirefoxMar 16 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "the White House wants"? or "the copyright mafia who write their speeches want"? http://tighturl.com/30e2 #MPAA #RIAAMar 16 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fleeing walled gardens: can we be open and stay social? http://is.gd/YchmE9 !identi.ca #Diaspora #JitsiMar 16 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Datum Handbook of Time Code Formats: http://bit.ly/igVFboMar 16 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Red Eclipse 1.0; 0AD Alpha 4 [Game Updates] http://bit.ly/eMpcVqMar 16 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tagesschau.de is currently live streaming NHK.Mar 16 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] They blessed the nuclear reactor of #Fukushima before they put it in the plant? Well *that* helped!Mar 16 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] The OMG!Ubuntu! blog has officially just lost a reader. Its turned to shit. #angryMar 16 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @liotier Irrational fear of nuclear energy trumps science pretty much everywhere while no ones considers mass cancer from fossil fuel...Mar 16 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Twitter subscribers: the site is down, but if you're using a client (3rd party or not), you may still read/write tweets.Mar 16 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Brussels Eyes a Halt to SWIFT Data Agreement http://is.gd/ObY9FK #EU #PrivacyMar 16 11:49
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scientesis there any ssd that you can directly access the NAND without the FTL?Mar 16 11:57
scientesover SATAMar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing a podcast....Mar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] After weeks of wavering, I'm going to set drop-dead date for #Plurk. Move to #Jaiku, #Identica, #Twitter, #Statusnet, #Friendika, #DiasporaMar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US coal firm Drummond paid Colombian paramilitaries http://is.gd/BUvguh !wlMar 16 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bahrain: U.S. Backs Saudi Military Intervention, Conflict With Iran. http://is.gd/aC8swf #geopoliticsMar 16 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Two of the powerhouses of OpenStack have quit - NASA's Chris Kemp http://wmk.me/err19x and Rick Clark of RackSpace. What's going on?Mar 16 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] dear !lazyweb if you have used identi.ca in conjunction with your LUG, I'd like to hear about your experiencesMar 16 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Built your biz on Twitter's API? The massah is angry. http://blog.calevans.com/2011/03/16/apple-twitter-and-digital-sharecropping/Mar 16 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8 Game Updates: Red Eclipse 1.0; 0AD Alpha 4 http://goo.gl/W4oooMar 16 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Samsung Galaxy Player 5, Android’s iPod Touch, heading to US this spring http://goo.gl/iSpZU !androidMar 16 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi !Android tablet confirmed: $599 for March 27 http://goo.gl/6B15FMar 16 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME Control Panel: Network Status http://goo.gl/hcPQhMar 16 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Outing the NHS reformers http://is.gd/owPI3t #savetheNHSMar 16 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @alexhudson ♺ @FactCheck: New on FactCheck: FactCheck: Is Lansley misleading us over the NHS? http://bit.ly/i5rnDVMar 16 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ryu88 http://bit.ly/9sQiZi Conservative MPs sign motion critical of NHS bill http://dlvr.it/KRhlNMar 16 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The @AdaInitiative wants you to take this 5 min survey about women in open technology & culture: http://adainitiative.org/projects/census/Mar 16 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] no matter the nationality or the politics, politicians the world over use the term"terrorist" as a pretext to justify their actionsMar 16 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the joke is of course on meMar 16 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I tried right clicking the fonts (as per http://ur1.ca/3jau5 ) but it doesn't give the license info, & now windows explorer crashedMar 16 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I can't wait to migrate to linux... this weekendMar 16 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apparently Tepco has no answers to anything anymore. So much for safe nuclear energy. Unbelievable... #FukushimaMar 16 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @webmink Two of the powerhouses of OpenStack have quit - Chris Kemp http://wmk.me/err19x and Rick Clark (@dendrobates). What's going on?Mar 16 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] El Salvador's long-ago civil war still colors U.S. relations | McClatchy http://is.gd/72ENYs !wlMar 16 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 118 dents!Mar 16 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Journal bilingual edition launches http://lwn.net/Articles/433909/rssMar 16 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu Call For Testing On The NVIDIA Blob: A call for testing has been issued on NVIDIA's binary Linux display ... http://bit.ly/eOMBFRMar 16 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bag of oregano labeled an "imitation controlled substance" by admins leads to suspension of middle school students http://ur1.ca/3jdaoMar 16 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey.... I can't go back to my house for 300 years because of an "isolated bug" in that plant. Ah, well.... Let's build more of 'em! #sarcasmMar 16 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Becoming an open leader by @gyehuda | http://bit.ly/gJKq7G #openleadership #e20Mar 16 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Writing the 4th amendment on your chest and showing it during a #TSA pat down will earn you a fat paycheck in the end http://ur1.ca/3jdb3Mar 16 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Misogyny is alive and well in technology circles http://ur1.ca/3jdbwMar 16 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Interesting that most pro-nuclear energy people on here seem to be from the US.Mar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] White House proposed sweeping revisions US copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" a federal felony http://ur1.ca/3jdcuMar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I guess it's like terrorism and war: Until it hits you guys where you live, you're all happy-go-lucky about it...Mar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA worker arrested in theft of cash from travelers http://ur1.ca/3jddgMar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The fear of missing out, and why humans suck online http://ur1.ca/3jddzMar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New York slashes hospital spending, but can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks http://ur1.ca/3jde7Mar 16 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Terroists in #Bahrain steal ambulances and shoot people seeking medical help http://ur1.ca/3jdeiMar 16 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink "War crimes good, exposing them bad" http://is.gd/yTwPJG #AJE #manning #wikileaksMar 16 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA admits body scanners output 10x more radiation than safe levels http://ur1.ca/3jdf2Mar 16 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Limor Fried, has Masters in Engineering from MIT, and is hot http://ur1.ca/3jdgdMar 16 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Classic GNOME 3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://bit.ly/fITKWNMar 16 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @jpope I just hope we can provide Green form of energy that will be sufficient to meet our needs, or lessen our needs :)Mar 16 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rush Limbaugh is a fucking racist jackass (with video) http://ur1.ca/3jdkp Warning: HuffPoMar 16 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @webupd8 Classic !GNOME 3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://bit.ly/fITKWN « That might be the one for meMar 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] One month left to submit your talk for #LinuxCon! Great keynotes to be annced shortly. Be a part of it! http://bit.ly/5h3oN #linuxMar 16 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Only 2 percent of !Android phones have the latest software; tablet stats likely worse http://goo.gl/HtygfMar 16 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Classic GNOME !3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://goo.gl/gcSTdMar 16 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mohanpram: When you don't run windows at home, you tend to forget how troublesome it can be. It's as if the OS goes out its way to be badMar 16 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Inauspicious Start For Chris Dodd At MPAA; Starts Off With 'Infringement No Different Than Theft' Claim - http://bit.ly/g6OC6z surprise...Mar 16 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] currently listening to a piano waltz by Anton Bruckner; in a state of some shock...Mar 16 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh actually for nuclear power we have a chance with liquid thorium. There if it overheats it melts a plug and cools downMar 16 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gunpowder tea, hot!Mar 16 13:37
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DaemonFCUbuntu is asking for testers for proprietary NvidiaMar 16 13:42
DaemonFCof course Nvidia has the same problem as other proprietary drivers, what I call the cliff problemMar 16 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Uzbekistan Shuts Down Human Rights Watch - http://bit.ly/ieeGDt can't imagine why... #uzbekistan #hrwMar 16 13:42
DaemonFCeither it works or it doesn't and there's nothing anyone but Nvidia can do about itMar 16 13:43
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well jono made fun of me earlier in his ustream as a bit of a jokeMar 16 13:43
MinceRdo you know how to recognize a tv tuner that has working gnu/linux support?Mar 16 13:43
MinceRit's not for sale anywhere, that's howMar 16 13:43
DaemonFCMinceR, There's one that specifically supports Linux, but it uses regular PCI bus and it's really expensiveMar 16 13:44
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DaemonFCwhich means that you won't see me using itMar 16 13:44
DaemonFCI have better things to earmark $200 for Mar 16 13:44
sebsebsebhi schestowitzMar 16 13:44
MinceRever since i got a slight electric shock for the supposed ground part of the tv cable here, i'm kind of wary of plugging that crap into a pci cardMar 16 13:45
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MinceRi hate this house, i hate these people, i hate this countryMar 16 13:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673Mar 16 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[morphium/@morphium] Yeah, heute vom AG Dresden freigesprochen worden, also fleißig weiter !tor Server betreiben und !wikileaks Domain am Laufen haltenMar 16 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Netherlands !opensource report says no savings can be made - The H Open Source: News and Features http://ping.fm/zJbcZMar 16 13:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673Mar 16 13:46
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DaemonFCLinus said like 10 years ago that he didn't want to hear about problems with proprietary drivers because, quote "when they break, and they WILL break" there's nothing Linux can do about it except wait for the company that made them to fix itMar 16 13:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673 < That's why I can't stop denting even when I don't have a proper connectionMar 16 13:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 08:34:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz are you alright? You haven't been denting a lot.Mar 16 13:47
schestowitz[20:45] <MinceR> i hate this house, i hate these people, i hate this countryMar 16 13:47
schestowitzCome here thenMar 16 13:47
MinceRmaybe i willMar 16 13:47
schestowitzsebsebseb: hello backMar 16 13:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: heh jono ended up making fun of me a little in his ustream earlier :dMar 16 13:48
schestowitzMinceR: I can help you out getting sortedMar 16 13:48
schestowitzToday I met the head of dept.Mar 16 13:48
DaemonFCAll Ubuntu can do by slapping a proprietary driver into Ubuntu is say "This will work for devices X, Y, and Z, for the next 6 months until we release again and then we'll see if the blob still works with that kernel"Mar 16 13:48
sebsebsebDaemonFC: right sure, but well of course Ubuntu may want those testedMar 16 13:49
schestowitzIt was a nice meeting, but I had been listening to sad tunes all days cause they sounded good (not smart in hindsight :-) )Mar 16 13:49
DaemonFCThat's why my laptop had no video acceleration for months between AMD dropping it in FGLRX and X.org/Mesa picking it upMar 16 13:49
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Canonical want Ubuntu to go main streame after all, which means propritary driversMar 16 13:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: compatibility listMar 16 13:49
schestowitzUbuntuMar 16 13:49
DaemonFCbut the open source driver means I never have to worry about it againMar 16 13:49
schestowitzNot LinuxMar 16 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Japan #earthquake may have shortened length of days and shifted Earth’s axis http://ping.fm/LkEleMar 16 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #China tightens grip on VPN access amid pro-democracy protests, Gmail users also affected -- Engadget http://ping.fm/COo8xMar 16 13:49
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schestowitzI never quite appreciated this confusion between distro features and kernel featuresMar 16 13:49
schestowitzWorks with Ubnntu(TM)Mar 16 13:49
schestowitzDo it with UbuntuMar 16 13:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ubuntu = LinuxMar 16 13:50
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ^Mar 16 13:50
schestowitzAssignment?Mar 16 13:50
schestowitzUbuntu={Linux,X, ...}Mar 16 13:50
MinceRubuntu=the new suseMar 16 13:51
sebsebsebno Ubuntu is Linux, all the other distro's don't matter anymore!Mar 16 13:51
MinceR(except suse always sucked, afaicr)Mar 16 13:51
schestowitzMinceR: why? What did suse do?Mar 16 13:51
schestowitzSLE*=Ron Hovsepian paying BallmerMar 16 13:51
sebsebsebanyway serisouly if they ever go main straeme with Ubuntu, I guess it will be a pretty much, Ubuntu is the only distro that properly matters situation, doesn't sound good to meMar 16 13:51
DaemonFCThe free driver supports my laptop better than FGLRX ever did. With FGLRX, I actually had worse performance (2d) than with the framebuffer driver and the 3d support was buggy, and there was no Composite support, and it only supported OpenGL to version 1.4, even though the chipset supports 2.1Mar 16 13:51
schestowitzNone of that funny business in UbuntuMar 16 13:51
DaemonFCso yeah, the free driver gives me none of those problemsMar 16 13:52
MinceRschestowitz: installed a daemon that made keys repeat immediately and rapidly, making the keyboard unusable under XMar 16 13:52
MinceRalso their netinstall is an atrocityMar 16 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks bad: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/bilder/fukushima202_v-banner3x1.jpgMar 16 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Investigating Farm Subsidies on a Global Stage - http://bit.ly/fd4kvS important work, sadly hobbled #transparencyMar 16 13:54
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: Gnome Shell works with my Nivida card, but I guess if I was to try Unity it would still tell me to install proprtiary Nivida driverMar 16 13:54
sebsebsebhmmMar 16 13:54
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I mean above, they sorted Gnome Shell out, so will work with open driver properly nowMar 16 13:55
sebsebsebor as far as I know, going by a silghtly older version I tested from Live CDMar 16 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@sandersch like I said before, nothing is wrong; I've simply moved b/w apartments; BT to connect it Tuesday, then I'll resumeMar 16 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #EFF Urges Judge to Reject Dangerous New #Copyright Troll Strategy http://ping.fm/r5bOHMar 16 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Money, Patents, and Killing People - http://bit.ly/hBXRGQ "FDA's #monopoly grant and KV's outright greed will end up killing people"Mar 16 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: Money, Patents, and Killing People http://bit.ly/hBXRGQ "FDA's #monopoly grant and KV's outright greed will end up killing.."Mar 16 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Succinct review of !CrunchBang !Linux by By Michael Reed http://ping.fm/96tgnMar 16 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Lucid Hydra Is Still Useless On Linux: For anyone wondering whether the Hydra and other products from LucidLogix... http://bit.ly/fnhwljMar 16 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Adobe take far too long to fix serious security issues and they keep doing it http://ping.fm/ZZwccMar 16 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Piracy isn't just about price - O'Reilly Radar http://ping.fm/f8tPyMar 16 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Park Street, London - http://bit.ly/eLN5LG ah, amber solitude... #london #pixMar 16 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Into ignorance - http://bit.ly/htgxKJ kudos to "Nature": "the US Congress has entered the intellectual wilderness" #climatechangeMar 16 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Parents, school blame victim, a kid who defended himself http://ur1.ca/3jfluMar 16 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Egypt: female protesters tortured, sexually abused, "charged as prostitutes" http://ur1.ca/3jfmhMar 16 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Netflix To Start Creating Original Content, fuck you Cable http://ur1.ca/3jfn4Mar 16 14:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/status/47824103327014912Mar 16 14:29
TechrightsBot-tr@_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ?Mar 16 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: US coal firm Drummond paid Colombian paramilitaries http://is.gd/BUvguh http://bit.ly/gos7fEMar 16 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: El Salvador's long-ago civil war still colors U.S. relations | McClatchy http://is.gd/72ENYs http://bit.ly/eGS2pBMar 16 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Exclusion Zone around #Fukushima gets extended. Now 28K people out of their homes...Mar 16 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matt Zimmerman: DEX: !Debian and its derivatives, getting things done together http://goo.gl/WPAhWMar 16 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «The government told us it was safe (...) Now I feel angry with myself for ever having believed them.» #japan #nuked http://ur1.ca/3jg9mMar 16 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @smalljones Thinking of giving up email & only using FB, Twitter, Skype, AIM, Gtalk, Txt, Buzz, Quora, LinkedIn, & Diaspora Should I?Mar 16 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Set June 30th as my #Facebook drop-dead date. March 31st is my #Plurk drop-dead date. Account closure to occur on or before those dates.Mar 16 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke About Success Factors http://goo.gl/ECdDfMar 16 14:56
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DaemonFCGive the gift of Trash, yes friends, Trash, the most wonderful proprietary browser plug-in in the world, the one that has defied attempts to use it in X86-64 web browsers for 6 entire years, the gift that keeps on sucking your laptop and mobile phone battery down. Trash comes standard with DRM and plenty of MPEG Cartel fun for the entire family, and occasionally allows untrusted remote websites to execute arbitrary code. Fun for the entire family and RuMar 16 14:56
DaemonFCssian Mafia approved, it's Trash! From the makers of Acrocrap Reader! *Tell your friends, tell your mom, tell jono's mom!*Mar 16 14:56
MinceR:>Mar 16 14:57
MinceRjono's mom runs it on vista7 thoughMar 16 14:57
DaemonFCjono's mom has got it goin' onMar 16 14:57
DaemonFCI know it might be wrong, but I'm in love with jono's momMar 16 14:58
DaemonFC:PMar 16 14:58
DaemonFCMinceR, You ever wonder why you can implement all the important parts of a PDF reader in a 2 MB program but Acrocrap Reader is 50 megs?Mar 16 15:01
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 15:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rysiekpl/statuses/45799530075136000Mar 16 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr@rysiekpl: @jospoortvliet depends on where they are based; no #swpats in EU :) anywhoo, no, they do put a decent amount of work into polishing distro.Mar 16 15:01
schestowitz[21:57] <DaemonFC> jono's mom has got it goin' onMar 16 15:01
schestowitzJono is Stacy?Mar 16 15:01
DaemonFCno, Jono is a BaconMar 16 15:02
DaemonFCmmmm, Bacon!Mar 16 15:02
schestowitzFoundations of BaconMar 16 15:02
DaemonFCI will give jono that, he has the most epic last name in free softwareMar 16 15:02
DaemonFCBACON!!!!Mar 16 15:03
MinceRDaemonFC: because it's adobeMar 16 15:03
MinceRjono is not in free softwareMar 16 15:03
DaemonFCtechnically he is affiliatedMar 16 15:03
schestowitzfree copy of Vista 7...Mar 16 15:03
schestowitzHe's in Free softwareMar 16 15:03
DaemonFCyes, signed by SweatyBMar 16 15:03
schestowitzBut libre software is an area of importanceMar 16 15:04
DaemonFCVista7 Ultimate Deluxe Super Premium Unleaded EditionMar 16 15:04
schestowitzWOWOW WOWOW Where?e\Mar 16 15:04
DaemonFCextra high octane, guaranteed not to knock or ping (noticeably), only $320!Mar 16 15:04
DaemonFCthey run Explorer at HIGH priority and that's really the only reason it even "feels" faster than VistaMar 16 15:06
DaemonFCif you're perfectly happy to have Explorer and the audio stack taking priority over all of your other I/O, by all meansMar 16 15:07
DaemonFCI prefer not having anything get starved, but that's not happening with Vista7Mar 16 15:07
DaemonFC"LULZ! The sound doesn't skip!" (Yeah, it WOULDN'T when they run it at real time.....moron)Mar 16 15:08
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just submitted a talk proposal for the Libre Graphics Meeting 2011: http://outl.ws/h2ioJM -- thanks @rejon for the heads up!Mar 16 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] LM_Sensors 3.3.0 To Hit Next Week: Jean Delvare, the maintainer of the Linux kernel's i2c and hwmon subsystems a... http://bit.ly/ihaa4EMar 16 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to !lgm would be so ace. I always wanted to go to Canada! I wonder if the Habs are playing around that time.... :DMar 16 15:14
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/touchscreen-computing-1983/Mar 16 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Elementary Hide Caption Titlebar Plus (HCTP) Style [Firefox 4] http://bit.ly/f8v4DwMar 16 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Consumer groups warn Obama #privacy law could be dominated by industry https://eff.org/r.3zVMar 16 15:17
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/10/hey-dell-gnulinux-runs-on-arm-servers/Mar 16 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Stay safe, all. My thoughts go out to our Japanese brothers & sisters!Mar 16 15:22
tessierschestowitz: You back and logging now? Can I remove my other logging client?Mar 16 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] So Twitter's asking taxpayers to subsidize them? https://twitter.com/#!/mayoredlee/status/48142955432779776Mar 16 15:24
TechrightsBot-tr@mayoredlee: Rec'd letter from twitter saying they'll stay in SF pending tax exemption  legislation! Great news for mid Market area  #keeptwitterinSFMar 16 15:24
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walterbyrdMicrosoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companiesMar 16 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Good to see !libreplanet conf people arriving in Boston. Not too late to register: http://libreplanet.org !fsf !gnuMar 16 15:27
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walterbyrdhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/03/microsoft-lands-on-most-ethical-list.htmlMar 16 15:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110315PD214.htmlMar 16 15:30
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schestowitzwalterbyrd: TchFlash whitewashMar 16 15:31
schestowitzMaybe they found some more PRMar 16 15:31
schestowitztessier: no, not logging yetMar 16 15:31
schestowitzJust in eveningsMar 16 15:31
schestowitzUntil TuesdayMar 16 15:31
schestowitzI can't be online much cause I use cellphone netsMar 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Crap, the spammers have found weblit.ca - just what I didn't need. Back to the drawing board...Mar 16 15:34
tessierokMar 16 15:36
schestowitzThanks so much :-)Mar 16 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companies http://ping.fm/eKDNxMar 16 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Facebook, Google Must Obey EU Data-Privacy Law, Reding Says http://ping.fm/MJGHlMar 16 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter mollom is a handy moduleMar 16 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @silner: Microsoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companies http://ping.fm/eKDNx yay for the convicted, unrepentant monopolistMar 16 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl http://tighturl.com/30ef Gates: Gove back to the community" like FOSS? Nah can't be. "worlds most admired technologist?" gimmie a breakMar 16 15:42
schestowitzAnd Kissinger won a Nobel prize for peace, tooMar 16 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Gates to tech leaders: Give back to the community .::. Size~: 61.12 KBMar 16 15:42
schestowitzLOLMar 16 15:43
schestowitzThe man who took so much from everyoneMar 16 15:43
schestowitzAnd still taxes every PCMar 16 15:43
schestowitzGive back... LOL... how about he starts paying tax, which he avoids?Mar 16 15:43
schestowitzPR agents appear to have taken over everythingMar 16 15:44
schestowitzSo the rich run the show and control who's whatMar 16 15:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz, But what about all the malaria vaccine patents he's exported?Mar 16 15:45
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 15:45
DaemonFChelping to control the spread of the disease by making sure it kills anyone who can't afford helpMar 16 15:46
DaemonFCbrilliant, just like with HIVMar 16 15:46
schestowitz"I'm rich, I'm wonderful, I'm charming, I don't pay tax and you pay me a tax whenever you buy a PC whether you want to or not. But "GIVE BACK", please" --BillGMar 16 15:46
schestowitzAs though he gives people something with MicrosoftMar 16 15:46
schestowitz"Not GIVE BACK to us"Mar 16 15:46
schestowitz*NowMar 16 15:46
schestowitzHi, _GoblinMar 16 15:47
_Goblin:)Mar 16 15:47
schestowitzGot time for recording?Mar 16 15:47
_Goblincan't...lads in bed....Mar 16 15:47
schestowitzUse telepathyMar 16 15:47
_GoblintrueMar 16 15:47
DaemonFCrich celebrities with unlimited financial resources are the ones who say HIV isn't a death sentence. Of course it's not for them, they have $3,000 a monthMar 16 15:47
DaemonFCchump changeMar 16 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just noticed Techflash is "Seatles" tech news source, so a #Microsoft mouthpiece then, it explains the bizarre articles devoid of realityMar 16 15:47
DaemonFCMagic Johnson gets to live forever and they'll turn him into a cyborg after he diesMar 16 15:48
schestowitzTechFlash... paid by MicrosoftMar 16 15:48
schestowitz!google funded by Microsoft techflashMar 16 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog - TechFlash: Seattle's Technology ... | http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Mar 16 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Luxury online consignment shop Yoogi's Closet funded via Ferrari | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/11/luxury_online_consignment_shop_yoogis_closet_funded_via_ferrari.htmlMar 16 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How Microsoft can regain its mojo, and once again become the ... | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/05/how_should_microsoft_regain_its_mojo.htmlMar 16 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How L.A. would switch to Google Apps, using Microsoft's money | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/09/how_la_would_adopt_google_apps_and_save_using_microsoft_money.htmlMar 16 15:48
schestowitz_Goblin: you should do a piece on them, I thinkMar 16 15:49
schestowitzLike NExtWek and NeowinMar 16 15:49
DaemonFCpersonally I find it offensive that he'd rather admit to swapping heroin needles than just admit he's on the down lowMar 16 15:49
schestowitzMicrosoft sponsors themMar 16 15:49
_Goblinthem and "The nextweb"Mar 16 15:49
schestowitzAnd in return they kiss Gates' boots and embellish Microsoft's imageMar 16 15:49
schestowitzPR disguised as "news"Mar 16 15:49
_Goblinouch...Ive been hit with some bad mails....Mar 16 15:49
schestowitzhttp://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/03/how-goldman-sachs-speculates-and-avoids.htmlMar 16 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] My neighbour started playing Lady GaGa on a massive stereo, so i turned on some Disturbed to let him know what real music sounds like.Mar 16 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] This is at 6:45 AM.Mar 16 15:51
_GoblinRE: IE9  -  "The 64-bit model is a dog. It’s several times slower than all the other browsers when it comes to JavaScript."Mar 16 15:52
_Goblinquality software as usual from RedmondMar 16 15:52
schestowitzBut it's preinstalled on all new PCs :-)Mar 16 15:52
schestowitzSo that's a killer feature right there :-)Mar 16 15:52
schestowitzActiveX? Check.Mar 16 15:53
MinceRyes, industry-killer featureMar 16 15:53
schestowitzVulns? Check.Mar 16 15:53
schestowitzForced installation? Check.Mar 16 15:53
schestowitzNow, that's ETHICALMar 16 15:53
schestowitzEven *MOST* ethical I might add :-)Mar 16 15:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Bill Gates has jsut done so much for the communityMar 16 15:54
DaemonFCI feel compelled to give something back to himMar 16 15:54
schestowitzRockefeller tooMar 16 15:54
DaemonFCcivic dutyMar 16 15:54
schestowitzThey brought so much moneyMar 16 15:54
schestowitzOut of nothingMar 16 15:54
schestowitzAnd we can now eat the moneyMar 16 15:54
schestowitznom nom nomMar 16 15:54
MinceRDaemonFC: so do iMar 16 15:54
DaemonFCLeave Ballmer ALONE!!!!!!!Mar 16 15:55
schestowitzLOLMar 16 15:55
DaemonFCHe's jsut trying to sell you an ADVANCED WINDOWS OPERATING ENVIRONMENT!!!Mar 16 15:55
MinceRactually, i'm compelled to give something back to ballmer tooMar 16 15:55
schestowitzRemember:Mar 16 15:55
schestowitzWhen people get too rich they control the pressMar 16 15:55
schestowitzAnd then they tell us that black people will rape your sister and the world's richest people will save the worldMar 16 15:55
schestowitzThat's how they thinkMar 16 15:55
DaemonFCCan't you people see what you've DONE TO HIM!?!?!?!?!?Mar 16 15:55
schestowitzAnd they fool a lot of people, daemosing the poor and glamourising the biggest theivesMar 16 15:55
schestowitz*theivesMar 16 15:56
schestowitz*thievesMar 16 15:56
DaemonFCThe baldness and the fatness and the sweatyness!Mar 16 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Twitter security catching up? http://lnxwalt.tumblr.com/post/3907295468/bs-pr-from-bbc-twitter-users-get-extra-securityMar 16 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Cool, a rockbox developer is a local and idles in #heatsynclabs' IRC channel.Mar 16 15:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From The Mind Of *lnxwalt*, BS PR from BBC: Twitter Users Get Extra Security .::. Size~: 47.05 KBMar 16 15:56
DaemonFCIt's a cry for help and all you people want is MORE!!! MORE MORE MOAR!!!!Mar 16 15:56
MinceRi'd help him but it's illegal to do soMar 16 15:56
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MinceRand i don't have an army to back me against the authoritiesMar 16 15:57
DaemonFCMinceR, He slaved for you over a Visual C compiler to bring you that clock and that Reversi!Mar 16 15:57
schestowitzViktor has Kalashnikov, da?Mar 16 15:57
DaemonFCAnd THIS is the thanks he gets!?Mar 16 15:57
MinceRDaemonFC: i wish that was all he brought meMar 16 15:58
schestowitz?K?p?|?p????~?y?{???r OrbanMar 16 15:58
DaemonFCMinceR, But it has a clock, and Reversi, now how much do you think it's worth? $500? Wait just one second before you answer! You don't have a choice!Mar 16 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone should do a Donald Duck cartoon, where he plays a p2p speculative invoicing lawyer, constantly thwarted by judges & PR backlashesMar 16 15:59
MinceRDaemonFC: perhaps you only got the sign wrongMar 16 15:59
DaemonFCMinceR, Not even if Ballmer throws in Chips Challenge at no additional charge?Mar 16 16:00
MinceRdoesn't sound very reassuringMar 16 16:00
schestowitztessier: I get cache error on http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_EuropeMar 16 16:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Patents in Europe - Techrights .::. Size~: 48.28 KBMar 16 16:01
tessierchecking...Mar 16 16:01
tessierI just got a page tooMar 16 16:01
_GoblinI see Brandons due to start a podcast?Mar 16 16:01
DaemonFCMinceR, Windows Entertainment PackMar 16 16:02
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 16:02
tessierI've got some new hardware coming in which will vastly expand our capacity. Hope to have it up in the next week or two.Mar 16 16:02
tessierThat will really help out with a lot of little issues like this that keep popping up.Mar 16 16:02
MinceRDaemonFC: a hammer to smash the install media and the boxes with?Mar 16 16:02
MinceRi almost said "and a match to set the manuals on fire" but then i remembered what m$ thinks of documentationm.Mar 16 16:03
MinceRs/nm/n/Mar 16 16:03
DaemonFCMinceR, "It's about an easier PC from day one." (on a leaflet in the Windows 7 box)Mar 16 16:04
DaemonFCall the documentation you need until you get a system full of assorted malware from using Internet ExplorerMar 16 16:04
MinceRi guess it's easier if you accept not being able to use it for anythingMar 16 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps with him representing #Disney ......that'd be funnyMar 16 16:04
MinceRexcept joining a botnetMar 16 16:04
MinceRor twoMar 16 16:04
MinceRor...Mar 16 16:04
DaemonFCAll those unsupported unpatched Windows 2000 machines out there with fast internet connections.......Mar 16 16:05
*DaemonFC droolsMar 16 16:05
DaemonFCthese people don't even have to try, all they have to do is target old versions of Windows that don't get patched anymore, because lots of companies are too cheap to updateMar 16 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Great article on using Secmark iptables labeling w/ SELinux, by @rhatdan on linux.com - http://is.gd/Iti7GvMar 16 16:11
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scientesis there any ssd that you can directly access the NAND without the FTL? over SATAMar 16 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kudos to Apple! ♻ @storming Apple's Role in Japan during the Tohoku Earthquake http://bit.ly/hCwXUNMar 16 16:12
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scientesDaemonFC: it doesn't cost anything (moneyw-wise) for security updatesMar 16 16:13
DaemonFCit does when it's no longer supportedMar 16 16:13
DaemonFCyou can buy hotfixes for non-supported Windows but it's expensiveMar 16 16:13
DaemonFCand most companies go on using it unpatchedMar 16 16:14
cubezzzwhat is unsupported?Mar 16 16:15
DaemonFCthere was one Critical patch that I can remember, Microsoft offered it to the company I was at at the time for $10,000Mar 16 16:15
DaemonFCbecause Windows NT 4 was EOLMar 16 16:15
*cubezzz supports FC1 Mar 16 16:15
DaemonFC$10,000 or just skip the patch and take your chances?Mar 16 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @beefymiracle Ketchup with the AWESOME Fedora QA team at this week's !fedora Preupgrade Test Day. Thursday, 3/17. http://bit.ly/g62KoBMar 16 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gnusay: ♺ @Lopi: w00t! #Sound is now working on the #iPhone3G in !SHR. Time to work on implementing the #baseband and #accelerometer. #iXMar 16 16:16
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cubezzza perfect example of why not to use windows at allMar 16 16:16
DaemonFCthey use EOL as a tool to beat you over the head with, either you buy hotfixes or you buy new machines and new Windows licensesMar 16 16:16
DaemonFCeither way they get to fleece you so they don't really care what you doMar 16 16:17
cubezzzany closed source OS....Mar 16 16:17
cubezzzthe older it gets, the more important it is to be FOSSMar 16 16:17
cubezzztake games for exampleMar 16 16:17
cubezzzI was able to fix some bugs in a commerical gameMar 16 16:18
cubezzzbut only for myselfMar 16 16:18
cubezzzwell, also for the company tooMar 16 16:18
DaemonFCby fix you mean got lucky with a hex editor?Mar 16 16:18
cubezzznoMar 16 16:18
cubezzzI signed an NDA and fixing the bugs and commited them via svnMar 16 16:18
cubezzzand fixedMar 16 16:19
cubezzznot ideal, but better than nothingMar 16 16:19
DaemonFChardware companies use drivers as leverage all the timeMar 16 16:19
DaemonFCremember Creative v. DanielK?Mar 16 16:19
cubezzzcan't say that I doMar 16 16:20
DaemonFChe fixed up their shitty driver to support Vista, then he went and found that the cheap cards were the same exact things as the expensive onesMar 16 16:20
DaemonFCso he flipped on all the features and got threatened into submission by CreativeMar 16 16:20
cubezzzDaemonFC, you know what happens with windows games sometimes?Mar 16 16:20
cubezzzthey are shipped without actually being 100% finishedMar 16 16:21
DaemonFCCreative makes one model of sound card and uses drivers to enable or disable features depending on what you've paid themMar 16 16:21
cubezzzI saw that because we were working on a Linux portMar 16 16:21
DaemonFCso yeah, I don't buy Creative anythingMar 16 16:21
cubezzzgee, sounds like a video card :)Mar 16 16:21
DaemonFCno, with video cards there actually are differences in the hardware between modelsMar 16 16:22
DaemonFCI'm talking same exact sound card with different firmware and driversMar 16 16:22
DaemonFCsometimes there's a case where they sell a budget card that's the same thing as the full featured oneMar 16 16:23
DaemonFCbut it's not as common as with simpler hardware like sound cardsMar 16 16:23
DaemonFCcubexyz, It wasn't until late last year that you could use a Creative X-FI with ALSAMar 16 16:24
DaemonFCand that's been out since 2006Mar 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US military's "gratuitously harsh treatment" of Manning condemned by NYT, WaPo, LAT, ACLU http://ur1.ca/3jhom !wlMar 16 16:24
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DaemonFCbefore that you had to patch OSS 4 into the kernel to use that cardMar 16 16:24
cubezzzI'm cubezzz at the moment :)Mar 16 16:24
DaemonFCtab completionMar 16 16:24
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 16:24
cubezzzahMar 16 16:24
DaemonFCIn a lot of ways OSS 4 is actually better than ALSAMar 16 16:25
MinceRand in a lot of ways it's actually worse.Mar 16 16:25
DaemonFCI just use ALSA because it's a nightmare to maintain outside drivers Mar 16 16:25
cubezzzactually I use both :)Mar 16 16:25
cubezzzI'm a universalist minus the windozeMar 16 16:25
MinceRcompeting product is better in some ways, worse in others. news at 11.Mar 16 16:25
MinceRgnMar 16 16:26
cubezzzlaterzMar 16 16:26
DaemonFCyou don't have to use Pulseaudio because the OSS 4 mixer is much betterMar 16 16:26
DaemonFCdmix is simple and stupid and uselessMar 16 16:26
DaemonFCand Pulseaudio is a cover upMar 16 16:26
cubezzzyou're talking to retro-man hereMar 16 16:26
cubezzzso no pulseaudio Mar 16 16:27
DaemonFCyou'Mar 16 16:27
DaemonFCerrrMar 16 16:27
DaemonFCyou're going to get latency either wayMar 16 16:27
DaemonFCit's just less with OSS 4Mar 16 16:27
DaemonFCevery time Linux says something is low latency, take it with a pinch of saltMar 16 16:28
cubezzzrun ardourMar 16 16:28
cubezzzit's good for recordingMar 16 16:28
MinceRDaemonFC: have you tried JACK?Mar 16 16:28
DaemonFCno, I've accepted Pulseaudio as a fact of lifeMar 16 16:29
cubezzzthe beauty of GNU/Linux is you don't have to accept anything Mar 16 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Erasing Data from Flash Drives http://ur1.ca/3jhp0 #BruceSchneier blog #security #privacyMar 16 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol 8 track is killing music, in 1976 http://tighturl.com/30ekMar 16 16:32
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schestowitztessier: thanks a lot :-)Mar 16 16:35
schestowitz[23:04] <MinceR> except joining a botnetMar 16 16:36
schestowitz[23:04] <MinceR> or twoMar 16 16:36
schestowitzOr a botnet inside the botnet... where the botmaster has an insider of his/her hijack machines from the botnet :-)Mar 16 16:36
MinceRyo dawg, i heard you like botnets...Mar 16 16:37
tessierhehMar 16 16:38
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, I thought about doing that lineMar 16 16:38
schestowitzBut I overdid DAWN recently.Mar 16 16:38
MinceRDAWN?Mar 16 16:38
schestowitztypoMar 16 16:38
schestowitzI got us a boom box so we can typo while you're typingMar 16 16:39
MinceR:>Mar 16 16:40
DaemonFCIf I ever make a botnet I'll have to call it HandBananaMar 16 16:43
DaemonFCTonight......you!Mar 16 16:43
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAKL3Og-zGcMar 16 16:44
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_GoblinRoy, we should have Brandon on the show again (if he agrees) to talk about his site/views.Mar 16 16:45
_GoblinI think it would make an interesting ep.Mar 16 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do "end of the world" cults get a discount in stores during heavy storms on the basis that they may have picked the right team?Mar 16 16:46
DaemonFCinstalling Prey\Mar 16 16:48
DaemonFCwonder if this works with radeonMar 16 16:48
_GoblinLMar 16 16:48
_GoblinKs Mar 16 16:49
_GoblinIsn't prey old?Mar 16 16:49
DaemonFCyeah, but Gallium didn't support GLSL 1.2 properly until recentlyMar 16 16:49
_Goblin"Lacks any challenge   Aliens speak English and sound dumb doing so   Action is overly straightforward."Mar 16 16:50
_Goblinhttp://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/prey/review.htmlMar 16 16:50
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DaemonFCcould explain why I got it for freeMar 16 16:50
DaemonFCjust a guessMar 16 16:50
_GoblinlolMar 16 16:50
_GoblinIm maxing out on Killzone 3Mar 16 16:50
_Goblindamn fine wholesome title there.Mar 16 16:51
_Goblincomplete with stab in head, eye gouging and neck slicing...Mar 16 16:51
_Goblinall in the name of entertainment....Mar 16 16:52
schestowitz_Goblin: definitelyMar 16 16:52
_Goblin......and damn it,,,,it is good fun.Mar 16 16:52
schestowitzabout brandonMar 16 16:52
_Goblinyeah....I read his site for the first time todayMar 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski: The envy. RT @simonklose Great day with Brokep, Daniel and Moot in Zurich #flattr #openleaks #4chanMar 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Triumph Against Software Patents in Europe as EU Treaty Brought Up http://ur1.ca/3jib4 #swpatsMar 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Triumph Against Software Patents in Europe as EU Treaty Brought Up http://ur1.ca/3jib4 #eu #patents #uspto #google #ftcMar 16 16:52
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schestowitzEnder2070 and I need to speak about misinterpretation of my intentionsMar 16 16:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/48126399235637248Mar 16 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Don't you think an open company should mention the fact that it made a payment in an FAQ on such a deal?Mar 16 16:53
DaemonFCdammit, 32-bit game wanting 32-bit librariesMar 16 16:53
DaemonFCgahMar 16 16:53
*DaemonFC goes to retrieveMar 16 16:53
schestowitzHe ran out of FUDMar 16 16:53
schestowitzRan back to ~2007Mar 16 16:53
schestowitzAnd said that not talking about paying to defend oneself is "Evil"Mar 16 16:54
schestowitzBut Microsoft os "cooperative"Mar 16 16:54
schestowitzIt only extortsMar 16 16:54
schestowitzYour till or you kneecapMar 16 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @kevieMar 16 16:54
schestowitzThat's OKMar 16 16:54
_Goblindon't forget bullies...it does that tooMar 16 16:54
schestowitzRed Hat not saying it paid to have the case dismissed = evil, says Microsoft FlorianMar 16 16:55
DaemonFCahhh, 32-bit libGL drivers aren't there by default, okMar 16 16:55
DaemonFCwho would ever want those? :)Mar 16 16:55
_Goblinget a PS3....save yourself the bother of install headachesMar 16 16:55
schestowitzThis guy makes me sick even when he's polite... it's like Bill o'ReillyMar 16 16:55
_Goblinhavent really had much contact with the chapMar 16 16:55
schestowitzOMG!!! Obama did not wear a tie!! MARXIST!!Mar 16 16:55
DaemonFCafter all, 32-bit OpenGL support take an entire megabyte that they could otherwise use for MS Visual JAVA: Novell EditionMar 16 16:56
schestowitz_Goblin: I kept trying to figure out how to cover newsMar 16 16:56
schestowitzMy mind would wander after 10 seconds each time todayMar 16 16:56
schestowitzThat impacts the coverage a lot, starting next weekMar 16 16:57
schestowitzI'm leaning more towards RSS now. It's just that what's already on identica does not need to be repeatedMar 16 16:57
schestowitzI can try to feed new links and original dents into it by sticking with RSSMar 16 16:57
_Goblinmaybe you should outsource the links job on Techrights to someone......that way its still there and you can spend more time on other things.Mar 16 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter yes but not 'til after !mynovel upload is done (checking font copyright... if unable to resolve will need to reformat)Mar 16 16:57
schestowitzBut who would want to do it?Mar 16 16:58
schestowitzDoing the links also helps me set aside the ones to cover as articlesMar 16 16:58
_GoblinIm sure there's someone willing to helpMar 16 16:58
schestowitzThe way I do it involves several text filesMar 16 16:58
schestowitzAnd they are classified by what goes where... always refined over the past 5 yearsMar 16 16:58
schestowitz_Goblin: I know some who mightMar 16 16:59
_Goblinhow about this.....having a links round up at the end of the month instead....Mar 16 16:59
schestowitzIs someone in this channel interested in arrangign daily links to thousands of subscribers?Mar 16 16:59
schestowitzI can hand over the template, it's fairly easy to fill that inMar 16 16:59
_Goblin..bad time to ask....late for many....Mar 16 17:00
*DaemonFC smashes fgl_glxgears and throws the bits at _Goblin Mar 16 17:00
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 17:00
schestowitz_Goblin: month is too longMar 16 17:00
schestowitzPeople want to know what's newMar 16 17:00
_GoblinDaemonFC: as I say....PS3...cures all that ails yaMar 16 17:00
_Goblinbut then you have your dent links for that.Mar 16 17:00
schestowitzI can still do 20 posts per dayMar 16 17:01
*DaemonFC angryMar 16 17:01
*DaemonFC SMASH!!!Mar 16 17:01
schestowitzBut I spent a lot of time in identica since NovemberMar 16 17:01
schestowitzI'm also second most prolific now after fabMar 16 17:01
_GoblinI have your dents on Openbytes in the side bar....works wellMar 16 17:01
schestowitzAh :-)Mar 16 17:01
schestowitzI plan to do less politicsMar 16 17:01
schestowitzI lost sight of the key topics I'm qualified to write detailed posts aboutMar 16 17:02
DaemonFCthis would probably be easier to use in Wine than the broken Linux binaries they gave meMar 16 17:02
schestowitzI should really leave some subjects to those who concentrate on them, e.g. nuclear energyMar 16 17:02
schestowitzAnother thing is, we need to track patents betterMar 16 17:02
schestowitzANd less on copyright law, IMHOMar 16 17:03
schestowitzCopyright=too broad a subjectMar 16 17:03
schestowitzToo time-consuming, I got sucked inMar 16 17:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, Patents are major interference in trying to implement a free OpenGL stackMar 16 17:03
DaemonFCnow I am really pissedMar 16 17:03
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 17:03
schestowitzyesMar 16 17:03
schestowitzThey're a menace to all softwareMar 16 17:03
schestowitzIt's not a FOSS issueMar 16 17:03
schestowitzIt's a freedom of coding issueMar 16 17:03
_GoblinI think copyright is a far bigger threat than patent because it has the potential to infringe on individuals "average users" liberties....Mar 16 17:04
DaemonFCright, patent trolls go after proprietary software companies that can't afford to defend themselves all the timeMar 16 17:04
DaemonFCand it's just as disgusting thereMar 16 17:04
schestowitzEVerybody wants a little monopoly for self in SW and then you end up with a mine fieldMar 16 17:04
schestowitz_Goblin: yesMar 16 17:04
schestowitzCopyrights are in more areasMar 16 17:04
schestowitzFor obvious reasonsMar 16 17:04
schestowitzANd each implementation is copyrightMar 16 17:04
schestowitzUnlike patentsMar 16 17:04
DaemonFCcopyright is more acceptable than patents are, with regards to softwareMar 16 17:05
DaemonFCa RHEL clone is RHEL without the artwork and name, OKMar 16 17:05
schestowitzYou cannot accidentally infringe on copyrights unless it's crazy copyrightsMar 16 17:05
schestowitzLike drum beatsMar 16 17:05
_Goblinand like I say, the outcome could be complete restriction on the individual.......patents are though an important topic best left for you to cover, but just look at the DEB, the three strikes and the US switching off sites without due process.....all these actions directly impact on the individual and take away basic freedoms.Mar 16 17:05
schestowitz!google youtube amen breakMar 16 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Video explains the world's most important 6-sec drum loop | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5SaFTm2bcacMar 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Amen Break - normal, fast and slow version | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DqwQLk7NcpO4Mar 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Amen Break - Amen, Brother - The Winstons | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsbCYZOJxK6AMar 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Amen Break - Drum and Bass | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dd0dLO0QBlxEMar 16 17:06
_Goblinthe right to free speech....Mar 16 17:06
_Goblinbut more importantly.......Mar 16 17:06
schestowitzTHat tooMar 16 17:06
schestowitzAnd you can't critiicse without quotingMar 16 17:06
_Goblinthe right to fair trial before your peers.Mar 16 17:06
schestowitzSo it's more than FAIR use, it's ESSENTIAL useMar 16 17:06
DaemonFCbe careful what you wish forMar 16 17:06
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 17:06
schestowitzIf I can't provide contextMar 16 17:07
DaemonFCthe government and prosecution have more say over who "your peers" are than you or your defenseMar 16 17:07
schestowitzParaphrasing leads to misinterpretation and ambiguity/miattrib/misquote/etcMar 16 17:07
DaemonFCso maybe this is not a good thing?Mar 16 17:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: still on probation?Mar 16 17:07
_GoblinDaemonFC: theres some truth in that....Mar 16 17:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Haven't been on probation since 2009Mar 16 17:08
_GoblinDaemonFC: however I think its the only system we've got and Ive yet to see any "brave new world" theory which offers any less a corruptable systemMar 16 17:08
_Goblinthe problem isn't corrupt systems....its human natureMar 16 17:09
_Goblinwe are greedy and selfish by designMar 16 17:09
_Goblinits called survivalMar 16 17:09
schestowitzOf the feet(est)Mar 16 17:09
DaemonFCthe government stacks the jury against youMar 16 17:09
DaemonFCwith jurors who are sympathetic to the government's caseMar 16 17:10
schestowitzNot "anarchists"Mar 16 17:10
schestowitzWhere the term refers to free thinkersMar 16 17:10
DaemonFCplea deals convict innocent people because they know how much worse it could get if it goes to court under those circumstances Mar 16 17:10
_Goblincould you imagine if the Polar bear started to offer its limited food to other creatures in unfortunate predicaments........it would hit extinction even quicker....A charitable and generous polar bear won't last longMar 16 17:10
schestowitzDaemonFC like some inmate who knows the ins and outs of the court system *chuckles*Mar 16 17:11
_GoblinDaemonFC: probably because the jury are made up of law abiding citizens and fine crime quite disturbingMar 16 17:11
schestowitzDependsMar 16 17:11
schestowitzWe are more complex civilisations than they areMar 16 17:11
_Goblinby inventions....Mar 16 17:12
schestowitzSo we reward those who are perceived to be reciprocatorsMar 16 17:12
_Goblinbut then its like work.....Mar 16 17:12
_Goblinwork = rewardMar 16 17:12
_Goblinremove the reward remove the desire to workMar 16 17:12
schestowitzIn fact, it's said that any favours are only ever done with expectation of return, even if just the liklihood of itMar 16 17:12
cubezzzhmmmMar 16 17:12
schestowitzSo in a society that hails morals the returns and externalities can be 'mended'Mar 16 17:13
DaemonFC_Goblin, More like hand picked for their low OK and eagerness to get their jury duty over withMar 16 17:13
DaemonFCfry the bastard and lets go to lunch :)Mar 16 17:13
DaemonFC*low IQMar 16 17:13
_GoblinDaemonFC: couldn't comment on a hypothetical jury....but my sister was selected once, and she took it very seriouslyMar 16 17:13
schestowitz"Uncle Sam wants YOU... in court"Mar 16 17:14
_GoblinDaemonFC: and she has a rather high IWMar 16 17:14
_Goblin*IQMar 16 17:14
DaemonFCIt beats taking your chances with a bench trialMar 16 17:14
schestowitzWho *wouldn't* take that seriouslyMar 16 17:14
DaemonFCbut so does anythingMar 16 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks news update http://is.gd/RuUz3k http://bit.ly/fAG1oHMar 16 17:14
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DaemonFC_Goblin, My confidence in the jury system goes down every time they hand those MAFIAA bastards a winMar 16 17:14
DaemonFCnuff said? :)Mar 16 17:14
_GoblinDaemonFC: not really...since I thought that allegation was levelled at judgesMar 16 17:15
schestowitzDOJ is RIAA-occupiedMar 16 17:15
_Goblinand certainly in the UK......Judge Birss is not for the paying.Mar 16 17:15
DaemonFCthe jury decides tho wins and what the damages areMar 16 17:15
DaemonFCthe damages can have a statutory minimumMar 16 17:15
_Goblinhe was having none of the ACS:Law fiascoMar 16 17:15
DaemonFCbut quite often the jury gives them insane overinflated damagesMar 16 17:16
schestowitzI saw your post about bbc1Mar 16 17:16
DaemonFClike $1 million per MP3Mar 16 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://is.gd/RuUz3k !wlMar 16 17:16
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schestowitzDarn, I keep falling off IRC with this connectionMar 16 17:16
_Goblinschestowitz: mine?Mar 16 17:16
schestowitzAnd this dongle must be frying my brain tooMar 16 17:16
DaemonFCso I think the jury system is bad on both countsMar 16 17:16
DaemonFCthey hand the win over to the MAFIAA and then give them more than the required damagesMar 16 17:17
schestowitzAt least it's a meter away from my head, unlike most mobile phonsMar 16 17:17
_Goblinbut it matters not.....the amount is so high it would never be paid anywayMar 16 17:17
schestowitz_Goblin: yours, yessMar 16 17:17
schestowitz_Goblin: it's for the headlinesMar 16 17:18
_Goblinschestowitz: words cannot express the contempt I hold the BBC inMar 16 17:18
schestowitzTo scare with huge sumsMar 16 17:18
schestowitz_Goblin: I got two letters from TV licence todayMar 16 17:18
schestowitzMy bin likes those :-)Mar 16 17:18
schestowitzNom Nom Nom... \o/Mar 16 17:18
_GoblinBut what of the fake detectors?Mar 16 17:20
_Goblinare you not frightened?Mar 16 17:20
_Goblinwhat about the "claim" they can enter your property without warrant?Mar 16 17:21
_Goblinare you not scared?Mar 16 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: How India kept pressure of Sri-Lanka http://alturl.com/mdcji !wlMar 16 17:21
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schestowitzHaMar 16 17:21
schestowitzI've learned from experienceMar 16 17:21
_GoblinBBC, the only thing more bent than the "service" are the claims they make over laws to enforce it.Mar 16 17:21
schestowitzI've been getting those letters for ages and spent too much time on themMar 16 17:22
schestowitzI know where TV tax goesMar 16 17:22
_Goblinno warrant, no enter.  You do not have to answer questions and those detector vans are fake......yet after all that.....I still pay my license....who's the fool here?Mar 16 17:22
schestowitzStamps and papers... and people in call centres getting told 20 times in 10 years that "I don't have a goddamn TV"Mar 16 17:22
schestowitz!google xray van Mar 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - X-Ray Van Sees Through Homes | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSZ2YW7-4GbwMar 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans - Andy ... | http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/08/24/full-body-scan-technology-deployed-in-street-roving-vans/Mar 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Forbes - XRAY Vans Deployed on US Streets | Ron Paul 2012 | Sound ... | http://www.dailypaul.com/143161/forbes-xray-vans-deployed-on-us-streetsMar 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Z Backscatter Van highly mobile threat detection system | http://www.as-e.com/zbv/Mar 16 17:23
schestowitzNow they'll give you cancer from the street :-)Mar 16 17:24
schestowitzAnd not give you the chance to even say, "no thanks, grope my junk instead"Mar 16 17:24
_Goblinschestowitz: wheelie bins......."Council tracking chip inside"Mar 16 17:25
_Goblinunless of course, you buy a wheelie bin for around £20, then you can fill it with whatever you likeMar 16 17:25
abeNd-orgim amazed they havent been able to chip babies like they do dogs Mar 16 17:25
schestowitzSo, soon I can throw away the scale tooMar 16 17:26
schestowitzJust empty the trash, stand in it, then get my weight by snail mail ;-)Mar 16 17:26
_GoblinI think we should chip everything.........it would be great......better yet, we can have an android app which detects the said chip and gives you all the details on the person you meet....we wouldnt even need to talk to each other.....what a wonderful idea......Mar 16 17:27
schestowitzabeNd-org: what for?Mar 16 17:27
schestowitzabeNd-org: RFID is passeMar 16 17:27
schestowitzThey have cell/mobileMar 16 17:27
schestowitzAnd they sell it like a status necessityMar 16 17:27
schestowitzA bit like facek00kMar 16 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Seems they're down! :( ♺ @trashheap: Also, anyone know what is up with the !Openmoko listservs? They seem to be down for the past few days.Mar 16 17:27
abeNd-orglots of people still are without cell phonesMar 16 17:28
schestowitzYou're not a person if you're not giving away all your 'friends'' names and carry around a surveillance device that's marketed as 'friends magnet'Mar 16 17:28
schestowitzabeNd-org: not hereMar 16 17:28
_Goblinlol....Mar 16 17:28
schestowitzAnd I'm used to the looks I get when I say I don't carry a mobile for personal reasonMar 16 17:28
cubezzzyou're a stallmanite!Mar 16 17:29
_GoblinI get the same look when I tell people I don't have a facebook accountMar 16 17:29
cubezzzthat's the reasonMar 16 17:29
schestowitzI told the lady at the health club 2 days ago that phone still do the same as in the 90sMar 16 17:29
schestowitzBut people don't think about itMar 16 17:29
schestowitzThey think pinching some lousy screen is funner than playing football or World of WarcraftMar 16 17:30
schestowitzIn the 90s I was still sending similarly formatted SMS Mar 16 17:30
_Goblinawww WOW.....you are making me want to go back to it.....Im an ex-addict you have to be carefulMar 16 17:30
schestowitzThe phone calls were top quality tooMar 16 17:30
schestowitzSize has not changed much, either. It actually grew biggerMar 16 17:31
schestowitzsmartphonesMar 16 17:31
_Goblinmmmm World of Warcraft.....took me a year and a half to give that upMar 16 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Thanks to @psquid's RPM build I'm using !Heybuddy on Meego(booted from a USB flash drive)Mar 16 17:31
schestowitzBack around 1994 you can get clam-sized phonesMar 16 17:31
_GoblinI miss the rotary telephonesMar 16 17:31
abeNd-orgif they chipped babies they wouldnt have to worry about making people buy cell phones to track themMar 16 17:32
schestowitzBack then they had to work harder too, fewer antennas and allMar 16 17:32
schestowitzThese days triangulating around phones and always-on make it easy to trackMar 16 17:32
_Goblinunless you have a WP7....then its hosed more than its onMar 16 17:32
_Goblinmaybe thats a reason to get WP7......Mar 16 17:32
_Goblinharder to track because the damn thing doesn't work properlyMar 16 17:33
schestowitzThere'e reception at high density+dynamics+mesh everywhere... storage is cheaper too so retaining phonecalls in the UK has become fashionable (not among users, among authorities)Mar 16 17:33
schestowitz"For training purposes your call may be recorded"Mar 16 17:33
schestowitzMy, thank you!Mar 16 17:33
schestowitzAnd all the personal calls too, but they don't tell you thatMar 16 17:33
schestowitztranslation of case 1: "we keep you on file, but this will help us help you... we value you as a customer"Mar 16 17:35
schestowitztranslation of case 2: "we keep you on file, but we are just trying to save you from those dancing Talibanites"Mar 16 17:35
schestowitzSceptic: "but you know I am not from the Taliban, do you *still* have to record all my calls?" :-)Mar 16 17:36
schestowitz_Goblin: before I forget, O2 lied to meMar 16 17:37
schestowitzThey made it seem like having a SIM card once would give me discountMar 16 17:37
schestowitzLittle white liesMar 16 17:37
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schestowitzWhite to them, brown to me :-pMar 16 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @x11r5: @hgfernan Viendo la charla de jon maddog en la cabeza la cancion de im a slave for you they are wrongMar 16 17:37
_Goblinyes theres a very pungent smell around o2....Mar 16 17:38
schestowitzEarlier I was visiting a financial rant site and O2 blocked itMar 16 17:38
schestowitzIt said I need to be over 18Mar 16 17:38
_GoblinlolMar 16 17:38
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schestowitzBut it was misclassifiedMar 16 17:38
schestowitzThey protect me from myself :-)Mar 16 17:38
_Goblinhand over your credit card number and that "proves" you are over 18Mar 16 17:39
_Goblin(I think thats how they do it)Mar 16 17:39
_GoblinT-Mobile did the same thing....Mar 16 17:39
_Goblinso I rang them up and threatened to take away my custom.....apparently this was the proof they needed and they unlocked the phone.Mar 16 17:39
schestowitzWhile purging spam now I find: "<strong>Microsoft coffee table....</strong>"Mar 16 17:40
schestowitzNever give the numberMar 16 17:40
cubezzzI've never owned a cell phoneMar 16 17:40
schestowitzYou're in control as long as they can't chargeMar 16 17:40
schestowitzUnless it's BTMar 16 17:40
schestowitzThen they hold you by the bal... I mean, the lineMar 16 17:40
_GoblinI agree....Im not giving them my credit card number to prove Im 18....they were happy to set up my direct debit without any such proofMar 16 17:40
cubezzzBT sounds awfulMar 16 17:41
cubezzzmost of my customers just contact me via gmailMar 16 17:42
cubezzzno phone tagMar 16 17:42
_GoblinI havent used my landline for calls for months....Mar 16 17:42
_Goblinthere's not even a phone plugged into it, its merely for the broadbandMar 16 17:42
cubezzzdry DSL?Mar 16 17:43
cubezzzI hope you're not paying for both :)Mar 16 17:43
_GoblinI get a good deal on my mobile with free calls so I use that for everythingMar 16 17:43
_Goblinand yes...I am...Mar 16 17:43
_Goblin£16 line rental and £12ish pound for the netMar 16 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Mobilizy joined W3C - Mobilizy joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1bNOjIMar 16 17:44
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_Goblinright...smoke breakMar 16 17:44
schestowitzyeah, line rental...Mar 16 17:46
_Goblin,,,,Before I go to have a smoke:Mar 16 17:46
_Goblin"Ex Sony Exec: Tablets Could Replace Consoles"Mar 16 17:46
_Goblinhttp://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPad-2-Sony-NGP-Honeycomb-Nintendo-3DS-XOOM,news-10471.html#xtor=RSS-211Mar 16 17:46
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schestowitzIt's late already, gotta be at work ~9Mar 16 17:47
schestowitzNot got to actually, I do plan to...Mar 16 17:47
_Goblinyes because people want to carry a 60inch tablet around for the full on gaming experience.Mar 16 17:47
cubezzzyeah I like the older tech betterMar 16 17:47
schestowitzCan't do fast SSH+X from a mobile connectionMar 16 17:47
cubezzzax.25 is totally free internetMar 16 17:47
schestowitzSo I go there physicallyMar 16 17:47
cubezzzand hardly anyone uses itMar 16 17:47
cubezzzin the 80's there was talk of downloading software via FM radioMar 16 17:48
schestowitz_Goblin: replace "tablet" with another word and you have an extraordinary claimMar 16 17:48
schestowitzAsk David ACCESSger for details... he sells thoseMar 16 17:49
schestowitzcubezzz: too noisy?Mar 16 17:49
schestowitzUnless you do repeat signals for noise correctionMar 16 17:49
cubezzzschestowitz, there is data transmission over FM radio Mar 16 17:50
schestowitz"Go away, sonny, be quiet... BBC radio is broadcasting DOOM in one minute"Mar 16 17:50
cubezzzjust not very much of itMar 16 17:50
schestowitzFor audio it's OKMar 16 17:50
cubezzzstill have to study it moreMar 16 17:50
schestowitzWith software any bit of noise can break a programMar 16 17:51
cubezzzpacket radio...Mar 16 17:51
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schestowitzneed checksum in hardwareMar 16 17:51
cubezzzI'm sure there's error correctionMar 16 17:51
schestowitzyeah, but...Mar 16 17:51
schestowitzI was thinking of you saying they'd broadcast radio to phone/PC via microphoneMar 16 17:51
schestowitzThat would be weirdMar 16 17:52
schestowitzLike ShazamMar 16 17:52
cubezzzyeah, I have to study this more Mar 16 17:52
schestowitzOnly with lossyness being an issueMar 16 17:52
cubezzzthe internet is lossyMar 16 17:52
cubezzzpackets are not delivered 100%Mar 16 17:53
schestowitzToday I visited the site of a Prof I worked with and hal;f the links were deadMar 16 17:53
cubezzzlink rotMar 16 17:53
schestowitzThe funny thing was, the page was updated a year agoMar 16 17:53
schestowitzAnd the links just stay thereMar 16 17:53
schestowitzNo easy way to check their aalidity eitherMar 16 17:53
cubezzzsometimes old links will rise from the graveMar 16 17:54
schestowitzLink rot does not exist in published literature cause you just name the paper, but...Mar 16 17:54
cubezzzusually not thoughMar 16 17:54
schestowitzIf the paper is no longer preserved in any form, you won' even know it.Mar 16 17:54
schestowitzcubezzz: more likely by cyber/typojackersMar 16 17:54
schestowitzWHo channel all traffic into custom pages with promotional linksMar 16 17:55
schestowitzgnMar 16 17:55
cubezzzlaterzMar 16 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for March 17, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/432754/rssMar 16 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Off to bed.Mar 16 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF lets the #sunshine in - celebrating #SunshineWeek by posting nearly 9,000 government documents to our site. https://eff.org/r.z9W #FOIAMar 16 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram So want a Pre 3, hopefully #Sprint will get it!Mar 16 18:02
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Ender2070schestowitz - we doMar 16 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] anyone here work on a libc? I could use a pointer on implementing modf, I wanna be portable so I'm against bitshifting the retval away !cMar 16 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How USAID works (unknowingly recruiting a Cuban security officer) http://is.gd/jydoRm #interference !CubanewsMar 16 18:22
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DaemonFCthe last vestiges of the BKL seem to be removed in this commitMar 16 18:24
DaemonFChttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=f74b9444192c60603020c61d7915b72893137edcMar 16 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA seizes UN funds for Cuba meant for AIDS and TB. http://is.gd/2Hg3wZ !CubanewsMar 16 18:31
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DaemonFCwonder if the UN is doing a bang up job on that just like they did with the Oil For Food programMar 16 18:36
DaemonFCMinceR, Coffee At Noon?Mar 16 18:36
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Red Hat is ... happy to share code, but it’s closing the door to the cut and paste school of Linux development." http://ur1.ca/3jla8Mar 16 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] meme of the week - Rebecca "Friday" Black. #BlackFriday! ur1.ca/3jld2 !memesMar 16 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk After spending a day figuring it out, it appears that addressing them via Twitter is the most likely way to get a resultMar 16 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] trickled*Mar 16 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I always try to post from Identica even when speaking to people on Twitter because every one of my dents is preserved here (so far)Mar 16 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Multi-GPU PRIME & GPU Hot-Switching Proposal: Last week a student developer from Belgium had proposed an OpenGL ... http://bit.ly/gRrjf6Mar 16 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The advice of what to try so far has come from Identicats @marjoleink @threethirty and @lnxwalt280Mar 16 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What is super frustrating is that I could have uploaded !Inconstant Moon *last night* but for the @qindows font !copyright concern. :(Mar 16 18:57
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DaemonFCI'm in Firmware HellMar 16 19:03
DaemonFCa whole 5 kilobytes of the underworldMar 16 19:03
DaemonFCmade manifest by RealtekMar 16 19:03
DaemonFCok, curse, swear, check checkMar 16 19:12
DaemonFCreboot :)Mar 16 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I !amreading Carl Hiaasen's "Star Island" and am a little disappointed. Maybe it's just me? Or has Carl fallen into formula?Mar 16 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan two way twitter bridge? Really? awesome!Mar 16 19:22
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DaemonFCvmware now has a driver for the direct rending manager in stagingMar 16 19:29
DaemonFCcool :)Mar 16 19:29
DaemonFC*rendering evenMar 16 19:32
cubezzz-Mar 16 19:39
DaemonFCcubezzz, Go away before I turn you into a Windows XP VHDMar 16 19:40
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] My review of Stephen T. Asma's /Why I Am A Buddhist/ http://ur1.ca/3jm09 #sex_math_programmingMar 16 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Do you use !Identica as your main or only micro blogging?Mar 16 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Fukushima nuclear plant owner falsified inspection records http://is.gd/CO9ccg !wlMar 16 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Another step towards governance reform at OSI (and Fogel, Jagielski and Godwin join the Board): http://wmk.me/fFAJf9Mar 16 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Human Rights Watch: US must explain treatment of Manning http://is.gd/fwWIVr !wlMar 16 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Is This The Girl That Hacked HBGary? http://ur1.ca/3jmb8Mar 16 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://is.gd/GcEZW2 !wlMar 16 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] yesterday's !Mandriva > !Mageia migration,from repositories (not DVD) was a success, with few problems during the process. System working OKMar 16 20:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robsanchezjr/@robsanchezjr] ♺ @wikileaks: "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://ur1.ca/3jmk8 !wikileaksMar 16 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Open Source Initiative announces governance and purpose changes. http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/03/osi-landmark/index.htmMar 16 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi: Ok good :), but what problems did you get? You mean the day before yesterday it's Thursday in both of our time zones! #mageiaMar 16 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @lohang: ♺ @wikileaks: "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://is.gd/GcEZW2Mar 16 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi: Ok good :), but what problems did you get? You mean the day before yesterday it's Thursday in both of our time zones! !mageiaMar 16 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] My dad agrees with the @beefymiracle movement for #fedora 16! Feel ya!Mar 16 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well !Identica users I got a question to do with clients that disapointingly didn’t get answered before: http://identi.ca/notice/67096658Mar 16 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Mar-11 20:35:40 UTC - Identi.ca: Unfortunately I am having issues with #Choqok! Know of a !Identica client that can show 1000 dents in time lines? Or even better even more!Mar 16 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4 Demos: Runfield – a Canvas Game http://mzl.la/hZzVXQMar 16 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4 Demos: Awesome CSS3 Planetarium http://mzl.la/hAshcoMar 16 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Game On: Marble Run Presentation http://mzl.la/f6edPLMar 16 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Join the Firefox 4 Localization Sprint http://bit.ly/h0S4fiMar 16 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: March 16, 2011 http://mzl.la/fQ4cFPMar 16 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] What the FUCK is wrong with TV shows these days? Glee sucks, Glee needs to be buried alive and then blown to all hell, its an abomination!Mar 16 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "real coding is a social phenomenon"Mar 16 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @csmart @gbraad Yeah, the "Down Under" tax ;-) http://ur1.ca/3jmbvMar 16 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @telecomix Help create a global comunication platform for all behind hostile networks http://intercom.gs | #emcom #intercom #telecomi ...Mar 16 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gnusay ♺ @richslxh: #Lawrence_Kudlow: We Should Be 'Grateful' That Human Toll From Japan Quake Is 'Worse' Than Economic Toll #sick u ...Mar 16 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robsanchezjr !Google follows in !Facebook's footsteps? No more private Google Profiles, all will become public or deleted. http://ur ...Mar 16 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Awesome discussion. Jeff Schweitzer - Beyond Cosmic Dice: #Moral Life in a Random World http://ur1.ca/3jngh #PointofInquiryMar 16 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mohanpram When you don't run windows at home, you tend to forget how troublesome it can be. It's as if the OS goes out it's way to b ...Mar 16 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @samatjain #Nuclear power plants are a calamity when broken. Coal power plants are calamity when working !q (paraphrased from George ...Mar 16 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 451 - Mom has a few things to say to the Imperator. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #readingMar 16 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Peter Braid was lobbied by Research in Motion Limited on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/eJaAcUMar 16 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Scott Brison was lobbied by Canadian Media Production Association on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/fr5bQkMar 16 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sorry it's from Facebook but I just *had* to share this: Data Transfer: http://www.happylikes.com/1041/Mar 16 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Lib. MP Bonnie Crombie was lobbied by Canadian Media Production Association on Feb. 15 http://bit.ly/ereVC5Mar 16 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Patricia Davidson was lobbied by The Canadian Chiropractic Association on Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/f0xf0DMar 16 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Several years ago when saving my kid from camp, wandered through a windfarm because it looked so cool. (and QUIET)Mar 16 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @lobbywatcher: CPC MP Peter Braid was lobbied by Research in Motion Limited on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/eJaAcUMar 16 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @tekk Several years ago when saving my kid from camp, wandered through a windfarm because it looked so cool. (and QUIET)Mar 16 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I've always planned to blog about selfpub ... it's a lot to learn, and sharing information helps everyoneMar 16 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm @laurelrusswurm You know 'cause coal mines aren't noisy and ugly or anything. ;)Mar 16 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Small Business/Tourism) Rob Moore lobbied by Cdn Natural Gas Vehicle Alliance Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/gjQPNmMar 16 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Treasury Board Pres. Stockwell Day lobbied by Westcoast Energy Inc., dba Spectra Energy on Feb. 04 http://bit.ly/gHJwDYMar 16 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Chomsky on "intellectual property" https://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.noam-chomsky/msg/12c9b62ed459d63d?pli=1 #insightfulMar 16 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm coal mines and nuclear plants have the potential to cause catastrophic danger ... my great-grandfather died young in a mine disasterMar 16 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Small Business/Tourism) Rob Moore lobbied by Cdn Natural Gas Vehicle Alliance Feb. 17 http://bit.ly/ggYLECMar 16 22:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Transport) Rob Merrifield was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/gATFD8Mar 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Sport) Gary Lunn was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/exTt4EMar 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Sport) Gary Lunn was lobbied by Enbridge Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/fJHDpvMar 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Canadian Heritage Min. James Moore was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/fFWZeUMar 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Transport) Rob Merrifield was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/hbM8nRMar 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Transport Min. Chuck Strahl was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/eLdu3pMar 16 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Treasury Board Pres. Stockwell Day was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/eRdsm6Mar 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Indian Affairs Min. John Duncan was lobbied by Suncor Energy Inc. on Feb. 09 http://bit.ly/hXjfi4Mar 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Transport) Rob Merrifield was lobbied by Canadian Gas Association on Feb. 16 http://bit.ly/hEs0NhMar 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @lobbywatcher: Min. of State (Transport) Rob Merrifield was lobbied by ENCANA CORPORATION on Feb. 16 http://bit.ly/i70kC7Mar 16 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] My favorite Web Comic: Mimi and Eunice: Above Everyone http://j.mp/eJhkq6Mar 16 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JulianFantino: I am proud to be able to improve health services for Vaughan families - But what about CIvil Liberties Julian?Mar 16 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Made In Dagenham is an excellent movie #Ford #EqualPay 1969, great performances all round, specially Sally Hawkins as Rita O'GradyMar 16 23:01
DaemonFCFords are mostly made in Mexico or Canada as far as I knowMar 16 23:03
DaemonFCall the more reason to buy a HondaMar 16 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Emma_A: RT @der_bluthund: Oh #Gaddafi, how does it feel to have a price on your head? http://j.mp/g1A5OE #Libya #feb17Mar 16 23:04
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DaemonFCif the US government put a bounty on someone that big, they're usually already deadMar 16 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #US a law unto themselves as usual? http://tighturl.com/30fs why should anyone respect US led treaties if they don't? #patheticMar 16 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Reneges On SWIFT Agreement - Slashdot .::. Size~: 128.01 KBMar 16 23:06
DaemonFClike Osama Bin LadenMar 16 23:06
DaemonFC1. How do you miss a 6' 4" arab that has to go in for dialysis twice a week?Mar 16 23:06
DaemonFCand 2. Who wouldn't turn him in for $25 million and a ticket to the US?Mar 16 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 452 - Fireworks and a new Imperator elected. http://bit.ly/ggWuOo #weblit #webfic #Minis #reading #fantasyMar 16 23:08
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DaemonFCI figure that Bin Laden is either dead or they have him in a cage underneath the White House so they can drag him out to make a video to justify the "war on terror" spendingMar 16 23:08
DaemonFCyou notice those videos never surface until right before the president goes on the news in support of another bazillion dollar package for the militaryMar 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] at a govt / state level the US are a fucking disgrace these days, it's a pity plenty of good Americans get caught unfairly in the flakMar 16 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Growing bits of articles heaped up in every corner... but particularly important that I not infringe !copyright for !selfpubMar 16 23:09
DaemonFC"Hey....so what's up? been about 10 years now, haven't really heard from you. You don't write, you don't call, so, uuuhhhhh, yeah, death to America, down with the infidels, peace!"Mar 16 23:10
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @themadhatter Growing bits of articles heaped in every corner. but important that I not infringe !copyright for !selfpubMar 16 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm human beings need to start making smart decisions rather than greed-based decisionsMar 16 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://ur1.ca/3jnys FEEL IT FEEL ITMar 16 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ARGH! more ideasMar 16 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The first time I saw one of the new design big windmills was in downtown Toronto alongside Lakeshore BlvdMar 16 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk http://ur1.ca/3jo21Mar 16 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Human Rights Watch: US must explain treatment of Manning http://is.gd/fwWIVr http://bit.ly/gXNn5wMar 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://is.gd/GcEZW2 http://bit.ly/f8wTI2Mar 16 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] "Red I got you a hotdog. And Donna, I got you three hot dogs"Mar 16 23:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Sigh. There were 3250 Commits last night for 2.6.39; will take some time to look trough all of them. And I'm traveling this weekend :-/Mar 16 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ForgeRock is hiring in Portland: http://wmk.me/igfMU8Mar 16 00:17
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DaemonFCI'm still laughing my ass off over that Law and Order: SVUMar 16 00:18
DaemonFCthe detectives walk into a mental health halfway houseMar 16 00:18
DaemonFCtry to talk to the nurse passing out pills, she says something to them in HindiMar 16 00:19
DaemonFCone of the patients says "She don't speak English"Mar 16 00:19
DaemonFCDetective Stabler: "Oh of course not, why would she? She's just passing out the meds...."Mar 16 00:20
DaemonFCthey pretty much nailed that oneMar 16 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Rochester IT and FOSS + POSSE: a winning combination http://ur1.ca/3j5e3Mar 16 00:24
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DaemonFChttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=commit;h=dfef6dcd35cb4a251f6322ca9b2c06f0bb1aa1f4Mar 16 00:27
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DaemonFCI guess that's one way of putting itMar 16 00:27
DaemonFC:/Mar 16 00:27
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DaemonFCI thought USING ATI products was enough to cause someone to become unhingedMar 16 00:28
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Why there is no looting in japan? http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/Mar 16 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] interesting - speaking lolcat! http://speaklolcat.com/Mar 16 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Tweets from japan http://genkitweet.com/?locale=enMar 16 00:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @clacke Registered issue. https://code.google.com/p/pino-twitter/issues/detail?id=332 "!Pino double-decodes the & a m p ; html/xml entity."Mar 16 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @clacke (to anybody interested: this renders as intended in #pino: "& a m p ;". The raw code is "& a m p ; a m p ; a m p ;" though)Mar 16 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The !google code issue tracker really doesn't have comment feeds for each issue? I want to follow http://ur1.ca/3j5ho with my feed reader.Mar 16 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Issue 332 -   pino-twitter -    Pino double-decodes the & a m p ; html/xml entity. -   Twitter and Identi.ca client - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 11.93 KBMar 16 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] !pino shortens URLs if I type ctrl+U! Thank you, https://code.google.com/p/pino-twitter/issues/detail?id=180#c2 !Mar 16 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Having only a Ctrl-key in #emacs limits you a lot to perform commands. how to get the (Meta) Alt-key to function on the !N900. Re-assign to?Mar 16 01:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] can #KDE open media files on a NAS withOUT copying them across? every time I try KDE it seems to be too much to askMar 16 01:19
hexxwhats nas?Mar 16 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 just loving your news podcast, by the truths we cling to it < must be about !LOMar 16 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Everything Goes Wrong for #Microsoft http://is.gd/ZHG1if http://is.gd/fqTGaaMar 16 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @FSecure: Using #HTTPS for your #Internet services is particularly important when using unsecured #WiFi connections. http://su.pr/1t6bITMar 16 01:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Blog: Making Twitter more secure: HTTPS - StumbleUpon .::. Size~: 9.57 KBMar 16 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4, Firefox parties, Hackasaurus, Join Mozilla and more… http://bit.ly/gPKDrwMar 16 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows 7 customers hit by service pack 1 install 'fatal error' flaws http://is.gd/4jenwE #microsoft #windows #w7Mar 16 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] More misery for Microsoft as Windows SP1 is hosing systems http://is.gd/FAkPQf http://is.gd/ZPep4HMar 16 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Everyone wants to take a little chance, to make it come out right.Mar 16 01:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: 59 Open Source Tools That Can Replace Popular Security Software http://nblo.gs/ft6toMar 16 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozilla: Firefox 4, Firefox parties, Hackasaurus, Join Mozilla and more… http://bit.ly/gPKDrwMar 16 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gbraad in xfce / gnome etc it can mount just fine in cifs / smb, I assumed there was some "remote" option in KDE that needed tickedMar 16 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @rrix I am trying opensuse 11.4 live, found this same issue that I've had every time I try kde, even installedMar 16 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gbraad before I could mount the usual way with pyNeighbourhood, and it'd work right, it defeats the purpose of the NAS int in Dolhpin thoMar 16 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Japan suspends work at stricken nuclear plant http://is.gd/36bA0u #japanMar 16 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @regsecurity: RIM tells users of bloodied BlackBerry to disable JavaScript http://bit.ly/ftJX1K #bb #mobile #securityMar 16 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] What Your QA Team Can Learn from Open Source Development Projects http://is.gd/chRwWy #microsoft #windows #softwareMar 16 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What is happening at Fukushima (All Things Nuclear): http://bit.ly/gJxi7BMar 16 01:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Five Reasons not to “Upgrade” to Windows’ Internet Explorer 9 http://is.gd/JJ16MB #ie #ie9 #microsoft #softwareMar 16 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Dear "Electronics for You" mag, Please grow up. stop using graphics.h and conio.h, @EFYmagonlineMar 16 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Paint Exploding in Slow Motion Is Cooler Than You Think: http://gaw.kr/ikaMhYMar 16 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yet another stand up comic masquerading as a large techco dude - http://ur1.ca/3j68eMar 16 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Daylight saving time: a lot of calls astray for not using UTC. #failMar 16 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Guy Kawasaki, Tux and Fedora. Nice. http://fedorapeople.org/groups/photobooth/sxsw-6eedda79-51c9-4e6c-966c-d1582ab2e18b.jpgMar 16 02:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] initial live play with both #KDE & #Gnome #Opensuse 11.4 very positiveMar 16 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #KDE is the best KDE I've seen yet though I'm still not convinced, probs more to do with my own lack of experienceMar 16 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Gnome is VERY slick, very impressed, everything worked on the netbook ootb, compiz enabled by default, NAS worked fine, smoothMar 16 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] even #KDE would likely be much better on a proper spec PC instead of a netbook, I'll def be giving it a proper go when I canMar 16 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @webmink ForgeRock is hiring in Portland: http://wmk.me/igfMU8Mar 16 02:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Mein Gott ist das scheisse!" @th3k4ty über die nicht-Bruce Version von "For You". Danke! :)Mar 16 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ich liebe diese Frau! :) @th3k4tyMar 16 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @AndreiAvadanei: Ii mai dati sau nu o sansa lui Internet Explorer 9? http://goo.gl/fb/kUgml #microsoft #ie #ie9 #romania #web #mozillaMar 16 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @cdibona TSA scanners 10x as powerful than thought to be. Only allow a trained radiologist to xray you! http://bit.ly/hr7qEeMar 16 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @lessig ugh. Louis Vuitton sues a Dutch artist for a painting that includes a LV bag - and wins €5000/d till remo... http://b1t.it/c3uMar 16 02:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @thistleweb: #Gnome is VERY slick, very impressed, everything worked on the netbook ootb, compiz enabled by default, NAS worked fineMar 16 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work.Mar 16 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: Yet another stand up comic masquerading as a large techco dude - http://ur1.ca/3j68eMar 16 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linux Plumbers Conference CFP http://bit.ly/eWJKmS "We are now accepting proposals for presentations and BoF sessions [...]"Mar 16 02:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @x11r5 @gbraad Loving the latest #linuxoutlaws podcastMar 16 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LibreOffice 3.3.2: no sign of RC2 or final release, please? http://is.gd/6vygFz #libreoffice #loMar 16 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ♺ @x11r5: @arielmt Well i would recommend the botMar 16 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ♺ @x11r5: @gbraad Loving the latest #linuxoutlaws podcastMar 16 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: RT @ovidiusoft: Linux 2.6.38 Released http://bit.ly/eugHOwMar 16 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @philippem !firebird 2.1.4 is released http://sourceforge.net/projects/firebird/files/firebird/2.1.4-Release/Firebird-2.1.4.18393-0.t ...Mar 16 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Good morning !identiverse And a very wet one it is :(Mar 16 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Looks like the #xen network #backend driver will make it into #linux #kernel 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/eDVseVMar 16 03:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Switchfoot - GoneMar 16 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ??? http://identi.ca/ps27499Mar 16 03:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gbraad it's the same in every !KDE distro I try, I have to assume it's a config setting I missed, not a bugMar 16 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidc #Natty testers, don't update to gdm 2.32.0-0ubuntu10, it fails to start. - http://is.gd/vbzrEU !ubuntu #testingMar 16 03:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @markey "10 Qt use cases you didn’t know": http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/03/15/10-qt-use-cases-you-didnt-know/ !Qt !Nokia !FOSSMar 16 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] great to hear conf.kde.in went so well! i'm hoping to go next year, it looked so good...Mar 16 03:57
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schestowitz> Did BT get your Internet connection yet??? Mar 16 04:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 04:05
schestowitz> Before I write further, I want to let you know that you are NOT "tooMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> serious" on the Techrights show.  You are the anchorman, and have to beMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> a /little/ serious when you cover serious topics. But I think you alwaysMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> keep a good balance and have a good sense of humour. Mar 16 04:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 04:05
schestowitz> Goblin is also a good interviewer and announcer.  Gordon seems to be theMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> wild-child of the team, one never quite knows what he might say.  WhichMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> adds a bit of suspense sometimes.  :DMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> Mar 16 04:05
schestowitz> The three of you work very well together, I think you are allMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> entertaining and interesting, and the show is very charming andMar 16 04:05
schestowitz> informative.  Good job!Mar 16 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] after listening Northern Lite - The Call I always want to listen to Depeche Mode's Exciter album!Mar 16 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at NetCologne GK-Büro Bonn http://b1t.it/byn #4sqMar 16 04:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] goodnight !identiverseMar 16 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The Impact of Internet Piracy on the Australian Economy" report - http://scr.bi/i4YSr6 is based on debunked TERA - http://bit.ly/fB4Pu9Mar 16 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ‘Father’ of #China’s Great Firewall Has Six #VPNs On His PC - http://bit.ly/hk6KPj just for "testing", you understand... (v @telecomix) #gfwMar 16 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] can't sleep, listen to @AesopRockWins ... http://ur1.ca/3j718Mar 16 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Downloading Europe: the Australian #copyright industry’s peculiar piracy report - http://bit.ly/hvJzSm excellent summary of its flaws #auMar 16 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] February 2011 Progress Report: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/february-2011-progress-reportMar 16 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just added the !jamendo !android app to my collection :)Mar 16 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: FPS Mod http://xkcd.com/873/Mar 16 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke: The Last App For The Cloud http://goo.gl/hzNuYMar 16 04:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Firefox 4 to be released March 22nd http://goo.gl/4a2p5Mar 16 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Google Chrome Dev channel update brings new logo to Linux http://goo.gl/i67isMar 16 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The first day at the office after the 4 day long weekend... I want to go home... :(Mar 16 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DEA seizes Georgia's supply of lethal injection drug http://ur1.ca/3j7c9Mar 16 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US wants to take an axe to New Zealand IP law - http://bit.ly/dN3pPR excellent analysis of #TPP riding roughshod over #NZ laws (v @lods1211)Mar 16 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] l'open data est « un événement d’une ampleur comparable à l’apparition de l’alphabet » - http://bit.ly/hrB4KG nicely put (v @mbauwens)Mar 16 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian #Assange tells students that the web is the greatest spying machine ever - http://bit.ly/hO46RR interesting commentsMar 16 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Clara-Schumann-Gymnasium http://b1t.it/c39 #4sqMar 16 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I piss raptors on mothershipsMar 16 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Curators cater to killers of innovatorsMar 16 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need to sleepMar 16 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle Goes After #Microsoft SQL Server with #MySQL - http://bit.ly/fyAZZB about time, too #opensourceMar 16 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Standards (Or: "the long list of things that we weren’t required to do") - http://bit.ly/dTNq6c "speeding up development" #opennessMar 16 05:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Honour among thieves: the only way to get the best selection of TV shows & movies is to steal them - http://bit.ly/eHcYO4 but not stealingMar 16 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | I'm Seriously Impressed With #OpenSuSE 11.4 http://tighturl.com/30bw #KDE #GnomeMar 16 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google’s the Largest Torrent Search Engine, isoHunt Tells Court - http://bit.ly/hmgYeO and #google says...Mar 16 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @lxoliva I am afraid Linus alone cannot change the license of Linux. And cannot even relicense his own stuff w/o heavily forking.Mar 16 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Key Learnings from ISKME’s Research on Open Textbook Adoption and Use - http://bit.ly/fWzpcl tl;dr: it's good #opentextbooksMar 16 05:32
MinceRgeekingsMar 16 05:39
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?37589-Id-Software-prefers-directXMar 16 05:44
DaemonFC"It is really just inertia that keeps us on OpenGL at this point," Carmack said. "OpenGL still works fine and we wouldn't get any huge benefits by making the switch, so I can't work up much enthusiasm for cleaning it out of our codebase. If it was just a matter of the game code, we could quite quickly produce a DirectX PC executable, but all of our tool code has to share resources with the game renderer, and I wouldn't careMar 16 05:44
DaemonFC to go over all of that for a dubious win." Mar 16 05:44
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MinceRcarmack has fallen so farMar 16 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source, Open Research and Open Review - http://bit.ly/fxTMPo update on Open Research Computation journal #openMar 16 05:46
DaemonFCMinceR, He forgot to mention that DirectX only works on Windows and XBOXMar 16 05:47
DaemonFCPS3, Mac, and Linux put together might be 20-30% of their business, but it only takes a small effort to support them too if they stay with OpenGLMar 16 05:48
MinceRhe used to support free software, and now there's this DirectSUX crap coming from himMar 16 05:48
DaemonFCDirectX an OpenGL both basically have the same capabilitiesMar 16 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter Enables “Always Use #HTTPS” Setting - http://tcrn.ch/fx2575 go on, you know it makes senseMar 16 05:49
DaemonFCthe only reason for DirectX to even exist is to make it hard to port your stuff of of WindowsMar 16 05:49
DaemonFCFirefox could have used OpenGL on Windows but they decided that extra 10% was worth all the PR even if it meant throwing every other platform overboardMar 16 05:50
DaemonFCthey're really only interested in making it a Firefox vs IE 9 conversation at this pointMar 16 05:51
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DaemonFCand they're trying to beat Microsoft on Microosft's platform using Microsoft APIs, it won't workMar 16 05:51
schestowitz-CSIt's not supposed toMar 16 05:52
DaemonFCit's been tried, Microsoft ends up sabotaging the API so it's broken and then using a hidden private one that is only for themMar 16 05:52
schestowitz-CSWere you talking mono?Mar 16 05:52
schestowitz-CSActiveX?Mar 16 05:52
schestowitz-CSDirectX?Mar 16 05:52
DaemonFCFirefox using DirectXMar 16 05:52
schestowitz-CSahMar 16 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Congress told Internet data caps can discourage #piracy - http://bit.ly/ez73SZ as can abolishing the Internet altogether; about as usefulMar 16 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] it appears I'm looking for a fight on the developers list, so I'm closing kmail for tonight.Mar 16 05:52
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, I've been trying to figure out what the hell Chromium is doingMar 16 05:53
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schestowitz-CSI think I might eventually do the opposite of what I planned and mostly leave identica aside, then get back to RSS feeds#Mar 16 05:53
DaemonFCsometimes when I maximize a flash video I get a kernel panicMar 16 05:53
DaemonFCbut only if I'm running desktop effectsMar 16 05:53
DaemonFCdoesn't happen in Opera or FirefoxMar 16 05:53
schestowitz-CSIt uses browser canvasMar 16 05:53
schestowitz-CSHow can you minimise itMar 16 05:53
DaemonFCfull screenMar 16 05:54
DaemonFC:/Mar 16 05:54
schestowitz-CSfull screen is a problem in TrashMar 16 05:54
schestowitz-CSIf you have two screens it maxes it on oneMar 16 05:54
schestowitz-CSAnd then..Mar 16 05:54
DaemonFCyeah, I figure Firefox and Opera don't piss it off because they're both using XRenderMar 16 05:54
schestowitz-CSIf you move cursor to another screen it snaps out of full screenMar 16 05:54
schestowitz-CSWhich makes it rather uselessMar 16 05:54
DaemonFCChromium is using OpenGL directlyMar 16 05:54
DaemonFCOpera 11.5 is going to be using OpenGL as the default backend for VegaMar 16 05:55
DaemonFCbut apparently the user can override it and go back to using XRender if they really have toMar 16 05:56
DaemonFCGallium drivers don't like too many things open and trying to use direct rendering/composite at the same timeMar 16 05:56
DaemonFCor so it seemsMar 16 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] your #astroturfing $ at work #BalancedCopyrightForCanada http://twitpic.com/49ils4 read the comments with a sick bag handy, well done JesseMar 16 05:57
DaemonFCI've thought about going back to classic Mesa but it's not worth the performance drop when all I usually have to do is whack alt-shift-f12 a couple times to get KWin to stop corrupting the screen after I exit a game or somethingMar 16 05:58
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, Compiz is not your friend if you use FGLRXMar 16 05:59
DaemonFCunless you like buttons and menus going blank randomlyMar 16 05:59
DaemonFCI tried out Compiz 0.9.4 with GNOME and both panels showed up blankMar 16 06:00
DaemonFCI thought it was the GNOME 3 preview for a momentMar 16 06:00
schestowitz-CSYeahMar 16 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free Software University - http://bit.ly/icqx1F "university courses for free over the internet using an “open source” model" #educationMar 16 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://bit.ly/eHcYO4 << the article #BalancedCopyrightForCanada referenced in that pic and are hell bent on flooding with paid shillsMar 16 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @michelenlared #Natty testers, don't update to gdm 2.32.0-0ubuntu10, it fails to start. - http://is.gd/vbzrEU !ubuntu #testingMar 16 06:01
schestowitz-CSCan  happen with any driver sometimesMar 16 06:01
DaemonFCvideo hardware is just buggy no matter what you doMar 16 06:01
DaemonFCoh wellMar 16 06:01
schestowitz-CSMehMar 16 06:02
schestowitz-CSUbuntu all over Linux newsMar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CSThis is tiringMar 16 06:03
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, What is this Linux you speak of?Mar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CSI like Ubuntu, but it feels like Linux advocacy now it stroking Mark's TM and egoMar 16 06:03
DaemonFCGoogle tells me I want UbuntuMar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CS /it/is/Mar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CSOr Google'sMar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CSIn the case of mobile at leastMar 16 06:03
DaemonFCget away from my Ubuntu with your LinuxMar 16 06:03
DaemonFCaway!Mar 16 06:03
schestowitz-CSI do it with UbuntuMar 16 06:04
schestowitz-CSRight now I'm on Fedora thoughMar 16 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I am curious if there's more than a few of the haters on that post who are actually real people, ie not paid to troll and attackMar 16 06:04
DaemonFCBacon.... nom nom nomMar 16 06:04
DaemonFC:PMar 16 06:04
DaemonFCI think Bacon made that Ubuntu theme for Windows 7 so it looks like he's using Ubuntu if he has to take a screenshot Mar 16 06:05
MinceR:>Mar 16 06:07
MinceRDaemonFC: he meant GNU/Linux.Mar 16 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] GNOME Outreach Program for Women internships - http://bit.ly/eDCX0I hurry hurry hurry (v @gnome @linuxmagazin)Mar 16 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] arguably the scariest thing about #astroturfing is when they're subtle enough to have their desired effect & not be noticed by the majorityMar 16 06:07
DaemonFCschestowitz-CS, I built Marak Olsak's Mesa tree, the floating point oneMar 16 06:07
DaemonFCand got the S3TC libraryMar 16 06:08
DaemonFCSauerbraten responded wellMar 16 06:08
DaemonFCI'm averaging 100-140 fps on it, which is pretty good reallyMar 16 06:08
DaemonFCFGLRX gets maybe 160-200Mar 16 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in some cases, like this one, it's so fuckin obvious, they may as well wear luminous signs, even the average Joe has them sussedMar 16 06:09
DaemonFCMinceR, You heard about the problem instanced drawing causes right?Mar 16 06:12
MinceRnoMar 16 06:12
DaemonFCThe user can't see the forest because of THE tree B-)Mar 16 06:12
DaemonFCwell, I thought it was clever anywayMar 16 06:14
DaemonFCnot much of a forest because it just clones the same tree modelMar 16 06:14
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 06:14
MinceRcould probably work with a couple more tree modelsMar 16 06:15
DaemonFCI remember a few years ago Microsoft was bragging about "procedural synthesis" which is basically just, I feed a model tree to an algorithm that warps it a thousand different ways according to an algorithm and makes a forest out of thatMar 16 06:16
DaemonFClike it was some amazing accomplishmentMar 16 06:16
DaemonFCThat must have taken an entire afternoon and a whole 1 developer to come up with the software to do thatMar 16 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Open Source, Open Research and Open Review - http://bit.ly/fxTMPo update on Open Research Computation journal #openMar 16 06:17
DaemonFC"procedural synthesis" was really just their way of saying, "go buy a new GPU because it has to render blades of grass separately now"Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFCMinceR, It's a field of grass, with trees, all of which are statistically differentiatedMar 16 06:19
DaemonFCgo buy a $300 GPUMar 16 06:19
DaemonFChttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2011-March/006063.htmlMar 16 06:22
DaemonFC"The Hurd kernel doesn't have DRM yet."Mar 16 06:22
DaemonFCYes, I saw them protesting itMar 16 06:22
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 06:22
schestowitz-CSFar from it...Mar 16 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is anything nuclear ever really super safe small and simple? - http://bit.ly/f8SxPi interesting analysis of nuclear past & future #japanMar 16 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cue another display of "putting them in their place" from MPs & "contrite innocence" from bankers http://tighturl.com/30c2 result? #nochangeMar 16 06:22
MinceRnot the same DRM.Mar 16 06:22
DaemonFCI know :)Mar 16 06:22
DaemonFCMinceR, The Hurd is DRMMar 16 06:27
MinceRnopeMar 16 06:27
DaemonFCnot having functional drivers does restrict how you can use itMar 16 06:27
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 06:27
MinceRಠ_ಠMar 16 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seriously sinister salt in Shanghai - http://bit.ly/g2hBO9 *salt*?Mar 16 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting article on #eBooks and publishing http://tighturl.com/30c3Mar 16 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if I could find an email from @JesseBrown I'd love to invite him on !TechBytes for an interviewMar 16 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @opensuse: Planet !openSUSE: Andreas Jaeger: First Survey on openSUSE Version naming is open now http://bit.ly/hnzLcGMar 16 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sirius launches round-the-clock Network Operations Centre - http://bit.ly/h5BpQf who says there's no support for #OSS? #ukMar 16 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 10 best alternative operating systems http://is.gd/ETKK0o #freedom #softwareMar 16 06:37
DaemonFCsad that most of the activity for KHTML is going on in the "Trinity" KDE 3 forkMar 16 06:42
DaemonFC:(Mar 16 06:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @popey: It seems Canonical has a design "Team", which doesn't a) talk to eachother, or b) talk to it's users. #ubuntuMar 16 06:42
DaemonFCthats why the user can redesign it on the flyMar 16 06:43
DaemonFCthrough judicious use of apt-get install, apt-get purge, and of course GCC is thereMar 16 06:43
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 06:43
schestowitz-CSit is users :-)Mar 16 06:44
schestowitz-CSpopey complains about CanonicalMar 16 06:45
schestowitz-CSWowMar 16 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @pioneeronetv: Mark your calendars: episode 3 drops on March 28 !ccMar 16 06:46
DaemonFChe usually kisses their ass iircMar 16 06:46
DaemonFCmaybe he's an employeeMar 16 06:46
DaemonFCI don't knowMar 16 06:46
DaemonFCyou'd have to be an employee or a suck up to sign off on that horrid music storeMar 16 06:46
MinceRthe new term is "peanut gallery" :>Mar 16 06:47
schestowitz-CSLOLMar 16 06:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #sendai #earthquake with fore- and aftershocks. Woah, I had no idea they were so many. http://youtu.be/xylDxj6-9dY #googleearth #animationMar 16 06:47
DaemonFCyou mean CHRIS PIRILLO can use the LINUX now that it's more like Mac OS?Mar 16 06:48
DaemonFCthat's fantasticMar 16 06:48
DaemonFCwhen will itunes arrive?Mar 16 06:48
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 06:48
*DaemonFC throws one of those unsupported Linux nightlies of Songbird at MinceR Mar 16 06:49
DaemonFC:DMar 16 06:49
schestowitz-CSPrillo...Mar 16 06:50
schestowitz-CSIs he still around much?Mar 16 06:50
schestowitz-CSHe seems to have done off the radar a bit in recent yearsMar 16 06:50
schestowitz-CSLike failed and disgraced movie starsMar 16 06:50
MinceRDaemonFC: i don't really care about songbird until it can shuffle the playlist :>Mar 16 06:51
DaemonFCIt's VLC lugging around Mozilla, why can't you LOVE it?Mar 16 06:51
DaemonFCDAMMIT!Mar 16 06:52
MinceR(and by shuffle i mean shuffle, not play the intact playlist in random order)Mar 16 06:52
DaemonFCLOVE IT!Mar 16 06:52
MinceRi don't really care for having a web browser in my music playerMar 16 06:52
DaemonFCwhat if I told you it could emailMar 16 06:52
DaemonFCand had a clock and ReversiMar 16 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Today: trial against #wikileaks domain owner and #TOR exit node operator http://ow.ly/4fvVS #tpn #anon #piracy #freespeechMar 16 06:52
DaemonFCNOW how much would you pay for this ADVANCED operating system?Mar 16 06:52
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 06:52
MinceR:>Mar 16 06:52
MinceRwell, since it has a web browser in it, it can really do all thatMar 16 06:53
DaemonFCKonqueror feels faster than Firefox 4Mar 16 06:54
DaemonFCeven though it does really poorly on synthetic benchmarksMar 16 06:55
DaemonFCI think this is what synthetic benchmarks have done to the web browserMar 16 06:55
DaemonFCthey focus on cheating the test than performing well under real usage patternsMar 16 06:55
DaemonFC*rather thanMar 16 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @czajkowski Bloody hell, does anyone in the canonical design team actually talk to one another in there? Really?? http://is.gd/hZCVKRMar 16 06:56
DaemonFC"Oh look, it's 10 ms faster than Chrome on Sunspider!"Mar 16 06:57
DaemonFCMe: "That's nice, why am I still waiting for my webmail to load?"Mar 16 06:57
DaemonFC"Hello!?"Mar 16 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This really is an amazingly evocative video short, posted on Tumblr by @themactep http://bit.ly/gKqvY3Mar 16 06:57
MinceRbecause your webmail is bloated as hell :>Mar 16 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] secret Aussie piracy report revealed to be a copy of a previously debunked report, complete with the same mistakes http://tighturl.com/30c7Mar 16 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] anpc.gov.ro .. timed out... Va mai amintiti "MCSI a transferat infrastructura TIC a ANPC pe platforma tehnica de tip Supercomputing"....:-)Mar 16 06:59
DaemonFCwhat is YAML?Mar 16 07:02
DaemonFCOpera says that they're rewriting their user interface in itMar 16 07:02
MinceRa serialization language like JSON, only more complexMar 16 07:03
MinceRiircMar 16 07:03
DaemonFCyou'd think it would be better to pick a toolkit and use it than to toss it every major version and start overMar 16 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matthew Paul Thomas proposes that the application title should be removed from !Unity's menu bar. http://goo.gl/Nosez !uMar 16 07:04
DaemonFCthey got rid of QT and now they're complaining that their new toolkit "QUICK" is too hard to manage across platforms'Mar 16 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @TheOpenNetwork: !OpenSource is socialism at its best: Free and open are powerful concepts http://bit.ly/iblmasMar 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh into this maelstrom they want to introduce a whole new environment (Unity) on their own. Predictions? It'll get hammered in reviewsMar 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @intermediatech !Linux kernel 2.6.38 ( stable) has been released - http://www.kernel.org #linux #kernelMar 16 07:06
DaemonFC7248 files changed, 740492 insertions(+), 457160 deletions(-)Mar 16 07:06
DaemonFCand the merge window has been open, what, a day?Mar 16 07:06
DaemonFCdamnMar 16 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] might be a wise idea to delay Unity until 11.10 to give time to sort stuff out #Canonical #Ubuntu rather than release to bad reviewsMar 16 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Everest is a piece of shit.Mar 16 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38-libre-lemote binary .debs now available for !gnewsense !yeeloongMar 16 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Zmeul, personajul pozitiv din basmele românești http://is.gd/GYeeKj #romaniaMar 16 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh too easy to climb? after a more energetic challenge? that's a mice ski lift you have thereMar 16 07:17
DaemonFCit might be a good idea to keep Unity in their stupid Netbook Edition and give people with real computers GNOME 3Mar 16 07:26
DaemonFCthat's just me I guessMar 16 07:26
DaemonFCnot that I'm fond of GNOME 3, but it is more usable and stable than UnityMar 16 07:27
MinceRthere's no point to giving netbooks crippled GUIsMar 16 07:28
DaemonFCof course there is, Windows 7 has done a great job of destroying that marketMar 16 07:28
DaemonFCjust like intendedMar 16 07:29
DaemonFCand upselling anyone who actually stayed to WIndows Home PremiumMar 16 07:29
DaemonFCfor a MERE $78 more :)Mar 16 07:29
DaemonFCbut, that's a bargain, for the advanced operating environ.... Hey, where the hell is Reversi!? I've been robbed!Mar 16 07:30
DaemonFCBALLMEEEEEEER!!!!!Mar 16 07:30
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 07:30
DaemonFCReversi, plagiarized Othello Mar 16 07:31
DaemonFCWindows, Mac ripoffMar 16 07:31
DaemonFCIE, a malware platform posing as a web browserMar 16 07:31
DaemonFCDirectX, OpenGL: Windows EditionMar 16 07:31
DaemonFCwhat a teamMar 16 07:31
DaemonFCMinceR, At least Objective C is the same thing on every platform, you can't say this about C#Mar 16 07:33
DaemonFCsay what you will about Apple, but at least Objective C isn't a total abortionMar 16 07:33
DaemonFCright?Mar 16 07:33
DaemonFCGCC actually supports it fairly wellMar 16 07:34
DaemonFCC#...managed code you can't manageMar 16 07:34
DaemonFCit never does the exact same thing on different versions of WindowsMar 16 07:34
DaemonFCor different architectures and the same version of WindowsMar 16 07:35
DaemonFCMinceR, Have you ever installed Paint .NET?Mar 16 07:35
DaemonFCyou know the part where it says optimizing for your platform?Mar 16 07:35
DaemonFCit's actually trying to patch itself up depending on what version of Windows you have and if it's on 32-bit or 64-bit x86Mar 16 07:36
DaemonFCthat's why it takes so long to installMar 16 07:36
DaemonFChe wasn't lying when he said Windows XP SP2 wasn't supported, there's some .NET functions that you can only get on SP3Mar 16 07:37
DaemonFCso now it's not even working consistently on the same WIndows version on the same CPU architectureMar 16 07:37
DaemonFCbecause you don't have service pack whateverMar 16 07:38
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 07:38
*DaemonFC upgrades MinceR to Windows XP SP3 Super Turbo Ballmer Edition with an Anytime Vista7 upgrade (to Basic, so he can pay them more for Aero Glass)Mar 16 07:39
*DaemonFC is a nice guyMar 16 07:39
DaemonFCMicrosoft was pissed when they found out people were patching the theming system in Vista Basic to enable Aero Glass supportMar 16 07:40
DaemonFCthe theme service just looks at pidgen.dll and if you haven't paid them for Home Premium, it disables GlassMar 16 07:41
DaemonFCI think the patch was like all of 5 kilobytes including the EXE it was wrapped in B-)Mar 16 07:41
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schestowitz-CSLousy MATLAB... http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/newsreader/view_thread/237208Mar 16 07:42
schestowitz-CSUselessMar 16 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @mjjzf With friends like this, who needs enemas? !qMar 16 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Yay! ♻ @0d1: #libreoffice arrived #Debian testingMar 16 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @debian: LibreOffice is now available in #Debian 'Wheezy'. Backports for 'Squeeze' are being worked on. http://bit.ly/fPuSzxMar 16 07:44
schestowitz-CShttp://groups.google.com/group/mathtools/browse_thread/thread/0bb41e07d1b285aeMar 16 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] What Would Jesus Do? ur1.ca/3j8hr !atheismMar 16 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] working on a concept for plasma around universal "share, like and associate"Mar 16 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] GNU/Linux Swap Space http://is.gd/MTXR16 #gnu #linux #free #softwareMar 16 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pgralla: Could Windows Phone 7 eventually go the way of the Zune? http://bit.ly/eEVd9b #microsoft #wp7 #mobile WindowsMar 16 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] For All The Promises Of Transparency, #Obama Administration Responding To Fewer #FOIA Requests - http://bit.ly/ea7Rkv pathetic back peddlingMar 16 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful supportMar 16 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As Data Retention Looms In Sweden, It Is Already Useless - http://bit.ly/ho4eYu an arms race governments can't win #privacyMar 16 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat fights back http://is.gd/LDRsKT #redhatMar 16 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Nuclear power is a symbol of old economic thinking: centralised, expensive and with untold problems" - http://bit.ly/fS7ImD interestingMar 16 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robsanchezjr/@robsanchezjr] ♺ @glynmoody: Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful support !wikileaksMar 16 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how to get rid of #Gadaffi, fast: ur1.ca/3j8qo :)Mar 16 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is the Genetic Rights Movement Picking Up Steam? - http://bit.ly/dNsPhi "genetic information the exclusive property of the individual" #dnaMar 16 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Donated €150 to Red Cross pro Japan. You can do the same: http://ur1.ca/3j8qw -- They surely need that PLS RT/RDMar 16 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Überraschung: StreetView ist legal. - http://bit.ly/fjEYwv court says Google StreetView is legal #germanyMar 16 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. House committee votes to repeal EPA Endangerment Finding and prohibit regulation of greenhouse gases - http://bit.ly/eBJnoJ shamefulMar 16 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Firefox 4 Gets March 22 Public Release Date - http://tnw.co/ikxjDL dear diary #mozilla#Mar 16 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] conf call with Oslo done; this is turning into my most productive day this month :)Mar 16 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Anne-Frank-Hauptschule http://b1t.it/c43 #4sqMar 16 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @carlopiana Donated €150 to Red Cross pro Japan. You can do the same: http://ur1.ca/3j8qw -- They surely need that PLS RT/RDMar 16 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Firefox 4 Gets March 22 Public Release Date - http://tnw.co/ikxjDL dear diary #mozilla#Mar 16 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Is the Genetic Rights Movement Picking Up Steam? - http://bit.ly/dNsPhi "genetic information the exclusive property... #dnaMar 16 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: As Data Retention Looms In Sweden, It Is Already Useless - http://bit.ly/ho4eYu an arms race governments can't win #privacyMar 16 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Bradley #Manning's military doctors accused over treatment - http://bit.ly/gHr2ZD useful supportMar 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: For All The Promises Of Transparency, #Obama Administration Responding To Fewer #FOIA Requests - http://bit.ly/ea7Rkv patheticMar 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2011-03-16: GNU Free Call Announced This looks like an excellent initiative to create a decentralised... http://wmk.me/hxgi8NMar 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @brunomiguel: NASA: Japan quake appears to have shortened Earth days, shifted axis http://ur1.ca/3j8h1Mar 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: LibreOffice is now available in #Debian 'Wheezy'. Backports for 'Squeeze' are being worked on. http://bit.ly/fPuSzxMar 16 09:06
MinceR123344 < DaemonFC> say what you will about Apple, but at least Objective C isn't a total abortionMar 16 09:14
MinceRnot so sure about thatMar 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Planella: Training Session: !Ubuntu Translations QA Workflows http://goo.gl/gzhMiMar 16 09:14
MinceRit looks like someone vomited all over CMar 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter adds HTTPS log-on (Twitter) http://bit.ly/fdlgB8Mar 16 09:19
schestowitz-CSMinceR: he's illMar 16 09:20
schestowitz-CSLeave him aloneMar 16 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] AOL Asks Us If We Can Tone It Down (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/gODFMOMar 16 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Edeka M.Kipping http://b1t.it/c5g #4sqMar 16 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks blames Japanese government for nuclear plant collapse http://is.gd/WNW6X6 !wlMar 16 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @declanm Lady Gaga demands #copyright control on photographs http://ow.ly/4fyh6 >>just how #copyright is supposed to workMar 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU ACTA negotiators’ notes still secret - http://bit.ly/ftS3FY the #acta farce continues #transparencyMar 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Every time this professor says "low albedo" I think "That's a problem in some marriages"Mar 16 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New York slashes hospital spending, can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks - http://bit.ly/gyiJSa how do these CEOs look in mirror?Mar 16 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Schultz: Diving into the Linux Networking Stack, Part I http://lwn.net/Articles/433787/rssMar 16 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] I applaud Red Hat http://ur1.ca/3j9cdMar 16 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Clara-Schumann-Gymnasium http://b1t.it/c39 #4sqMar 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ويكيليكس | تنشر "الأخبار" اليوم دفعة جديدة من الوثائق حول لبنان ومصر في طبعتها الورقية على أن توضع على الموقع في وقت لاحق !wlMar 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Routesy founder talks open data, gives advice to civic developers and government | http://bit.ly/eY3t6z #opengov #gov20Mar 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: New York slashes hospital spending, can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks http://bit.ly/gyiJSa how do these CEOs lookMar 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @debian: Watch the Video of !Debian winning two Linux New Media Awards at http://www.techcast.com/events/cebit11/do11Mar 16 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: EU ACTA negotiators’ notes still secret - http://bit.ly/ftS3FY the #acta farce continues #transparencyMar 16 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: I applaud Red Hat http://ur1.ca/3j9cdMar 16 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "... Oracle just freeloads off of Red Hat’s distribution." Indeed. http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8414/Mar 16 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Routesy founder talks open data, gives advice to civic developers and government | http://bit.ly/eY3t6z #opengov #gov20Mar 16 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks cables reveal #Burma Arms Deals http://shar.es/3U5NV !wlMar 16 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm with @fabsh: switching to !xfce because !gnome is running really slow right now on !fedoraMar 16 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Duncan McGreggor: Call for Testing: nVidia Cards in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/PErvjMar 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !UbuntuOne Contacts sync heading to #Thunderbird http://goo.gl/8Rr8yMar 16 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange grills Australian PM Julian Gillard on state spying | ABC http://alturl.com/dwhww !wlMar 16 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] David Letterman's Top 10 Reasons To Buy iPad 2 http://gizmo.do/dNT5WDMar 16 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It was such heavy sarcasm I did not think I had to put (sarcasm) in dent. Thanks for all the concern :-)!GNU !LinuxMar 16 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @packet_storm: WhisperCore App Encrypts All Data On Android http://bit.ly/fNqE13Mar 16 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] "A New Start" (Theme Pack) 1.2 Brings Updated GTK And AWN Themes, Lots More http://bit.ly/ifVDuxMar 16 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Deadly crackdown on Bahrain protests http://alturl.com/acm5t !wlMar 16 10:31
oiaohmhttp://www.freesoftwareuni.com/  this is interesting.Mar 16 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Supported Features in the new Linux kernel (xkcd): http://bit.ly/fYrYMJMar 16 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] New #Empathy icon! http://goo.gl/Lh3yjMar 16 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released http://alturl.com/icd9a !wlMar 16 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 I really like Gnome 3.Mar 16 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @zackwhittaker: University in 'serious'; data breach; Publishes 17,000 students' data http://zd.net/dK9eFM #privacy #securityMar 16 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: Hundreds of new #WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNewsMar 16 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @lilo78: #slackware 13.37rc2 released #gnu #linux #free #softwareMar 16 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RoAndroid: RT @AlexBartis: 3G wifi hotspot acuma pe #Motorola #Milestone cu android 2.2 :) #romania #androidMar 16 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Sistemul de plata online al Primariei Sector 6 a fost suspendat temporar pt folosirea CNP-ului drept cheie http://is.gd/4U2eTV #privacy #roMar 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Libre Graphics Meeting: Cutting Edge Creative Tools Meet Free Culture - http://is.gd/3IuStz #libregfxmtg #community #eventsMar 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @Joab_Jackson: Supported Features in the new #Linux #kernel (xkcd): http://bit.ly/fYrYMJ #gnu #freeMar 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Red Hat and the Kernel Kerfluffle http://is.gd/A4LSUq #Linux #RedHat by @jzb #redhatMar 16 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @aurele: Linux Libre Kernel Receipe Update :: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Libre-Kernel !lp !linuxlibre #tipsMar 16 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Arab nightmare - http://bit.ly/fAqFXd depressingly plausible (v @techsoc)Mar 16 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ed Vaizey’s Net neutrality roundtable with Tim Berners Lee - http://bit.ly/fz4GpI handy report of today's meeting #netneutralityMar 16 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] unexpected but good conversation with Brian Proffit on the phone just now about Qt and the community. beat the opengov drum, FreeQt drumsMar 16 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Orasul unde vezi moartea cu ochii: Cernobil, la 25 de ani dupa tragedie http://is.gd/Q41T15 #romania #chernobyl #photoMar 16 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #lfcollab Summit Preview: QA w/Lead Linux Kernel Maintainer Andrew Morton: http://bit.ly/fN0DXR #linuxMar 16 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Ed Vaizey’s Net neutrality roundtable with Tim Berners Lee http://bit.ly/fz4GpI handy report of today's meeting #netneutralityMar 16 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of Navigation Timing http://ow.ly/1bNl7aMar 16 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Discussion of Open Web Platform for All at WWW 2011 http://ow.ly/1bNl7bMar 16 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rares_petrisor: daca vreti sa ajutati japonia, Crucea Rosie Romana a deschis doua conturi speciale http://ow.ly/4fIBH #japanMar 16 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @escapetofreedom: Hmmm... #Motorola makes WiFi-only Xoom official: $599 on March 27th -- Engadget http://engt.co/hp7ShJMar 16 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF urges judge to reject dangerous new copyright troll strategy - 'reverse class action' lawsuit https://eff.org/r.z6UMar 16 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More on the #TPPA IP proposal – aarrgghh even for an AUSFTA-burdened #Australia - http://bit.ly/fmx5SE australian perspective (v @mgeist)Mar 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Fusion E-350 Linux Performance: By now you have likely seen the AMD Fusion E-350 APU showcased on a number o... http://bit.ly/ebo223Mar 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] #Newegg, why do you label the category "Operating Systems" when all you have there is #Windows 7?Mar 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Knowledge Conference (#OKCon) 2011: 30th June & 1st July - http://bit.ly/ee5fR6 Call for Participation & Registration is open! #berlinMar 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Netherlands open source report says no savings can be made - http://bit.ly/g64WUb "did not consider other benefits of open standards & OSS"Mar 16 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Report Says #CETA IP Provisions Would Increase Consumer Prices, Royalty Deficit - http://bit.ly/dS34TE good move, #Canada...notMar 16 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] man, i'm still getting used to this whole "we'll send you an invoice" thing here in switzerland for personal purchases.Mar 16 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jasonHoyt @BoraZ Think twitter adding 400K users/day is huge data? #Mendeley users add 400K documents/day. Now that's huge data. ;)Mar 16 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tibetan monk burns himself to death in protest against Chinese rule - http://bit.ly/gHndBz sad people feel driven to this #tibet #chinaMar 16 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1 in 4 College Textbooks Will Be Digital By 2015 - http://rww.to/ekJV5j unstoppable #ebooks #educationMar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i'm also getting used to the yoghurt here. it actually tastes good. i dislike the yoghurt we get in north america.Mar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] had a great design session for share/like/connect infrastructure today in #plasma. itching to write code for it!Mar 16 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyrighting Pi: Composer Pretends Only He Can Write A Song Based On Pi - http://bit.ly/gZ8M5c this is where "owning" ideas leads #copyrightMar 16 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New Poll: Can open source take over the world? | http://bit.ly/gMcKKNMar 16 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Moving beyond the Microsoft Monoculture http://ur1.ca/3jai8Mar 16 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... The shit really has hit the fan in #Fukushima. It's hard to keep up with all the disasters going on there...Mar 16 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Context is broken in !heybuddy 259 it looks like....Mar 16 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] "I have a bright professional future ahead of me [...] Girls like me don’t do porn, right?" http://redd.it/g57y6 !sexpositive !sex !lgbtMar 16 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I love it finding out that something I need is really easy to make: http://www.whats4eats.com/blogs/chefbrad/how-to-make-chickpea-flourMar 16 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #ACTA isn't even in force, and we've got #TPPA = "Son of ACTA" in progress. http://ping.fm/c51IF #stupidity #ipmafiaMar 16 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Fukushima right now: 3 meltdowns, 1 reactor has damaged core containment & cooling basins with spent fuel are burning.Mar 16 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good <ahem> morning !identiverseMar 16 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I need to check my #Windows XP EULA to make sure I can publish my novel commercially using XP fonts without infringing !copyright ...Mar 16 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... but I can't find the #Windows XP EULA in my Windows folder ... not called #EULA or #License ... does anyone know what it is named?Mar 16 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Expert for radiological safety on German TV: 500km around #Fukushima will be huge problem zone.Mar 16 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Please see photos :( http://tinyurl.com/4qswkr3 #japanMar 16 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Never miss a birthday again with Birthday-Aware for Ubuntu http://goo.gl/I0rUFMar 16 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RWE has legal objections to the fucking federal government telling them to shut their nuclear plants down? WTF!? GSG9 should raid their HQ!Mar 16 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Could Windows Phone 7 eventually go the way of the Zune? By @pgralla http://bit.ly/eEVd9b Me: Yep.Mar 16 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mcyle Schneider says #Fukushima possibly worse than Chernobyl.Mar 16 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Markus’ Little Blog: Short Review of !GNOME Shell http://goo.gl/HNq0uMar 16 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Anyone seeing trouble with IE 9 and Adobe Flash? Works fine for me, but several of my readers are having install problems.Mar 16 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the #gnomeshell battery indicator. Looks so nice and clean! :DMar 16 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: SVG Compositing Specification http://ow.ly/1bNougMar 16 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @fontana: ♻ @glynmoody Copyrighting Pi: Composer Pretends Only He Can Write A Song Based On Pi - http://bit.ly/gZ8M5c ...Mar 16 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hahaha..... @th3k4ty has caused her first mass identica debate! :DMar 16 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cambridge students removed from #Assange talk for alleged recording - http://bit.ly/fjHif7 hmm... (v @newsbrooke)Mar 16 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Deadly crackdown on Bahrain protests http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/20113164383... http://bit.ly/eX6QqZMar 16 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNews http://bit.ly/fOxqK6Mar 16 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Student Outreach: Ashesi University College announce a semester of Open Design projects http://mzl.la/dQr27QMar 16 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Drizzle, a new Cloud and web NoSQL database reaches general availability (H): http://bit.ly/gMJgYjMar 16 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[forteller/@forteller] RT @wikileaks: Hundreds of new !WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNewsMar 16 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Firefox 4 to be released March 22 (Barring any show-stopping bugs) (mozilla.dev.planning): http://bit.ly/gb2yTCMar 16 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear !Lazyweb have you a suggestion for #Drupal6 taxonomy based scrolling text module?Mar 16 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] !Polyamory and !poly will now point to the same group! You only need to use one of the tags now =] @maymaymMar 16 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Young New Yorkers eschew sex for capitalism (The New York Observer): http://bit.ly/gVDpYzMar 16 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Tip for running Arduino on Fedora - http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Linux/Fedora #fbMar 16 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @threethirty ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools!Mar 16 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Spring http://ur1.ca/3jaz6Mar 16 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the way workspaces just disappear in #gnomeshell when you drag windows off them. :)Mar 16 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[elbek/@elbek] !wikileaks Japon fue advertido por eeuu en 2008 sobre sus plantas nucleares y un super-terremoto http://is.gd/o7ESF5Mar 16 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] US news must suck again. All the US folks seem blissfully unaware of the catastrophe in #Fukushima. Asking me how I feel today? Really???Mar 16 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxmagazine: Five Great #Games for #Linux http://ow.ly/4fE6l <- Osmos truly rocks. 'Nuff said. #LMNews #gnuMar 16 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cdibona: Need a handbrake preset for the Xoom? I gotcha covered: http://bit.ly/e3yVEt #motorola #xoom #androidMar 16 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @openSUSE: Planet #openSUSE: SUSE Studio: Upgrade your older appliances to openSUSE 11.4 http://bit.ly/gTM2g2 #gnu #linuxMar 16 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools! #audio #softwareMar 16 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: 3 Reasons Why #Gov20 and #OpenGov Are Different From Past Gov Reform Efforts http://om.ly/BPUCwMar 16 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jperlow: Emperor Akihito addresses his people "Never give up hope" http://j.mp/gZf8jiMar 16 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @mairin: drop by the #fedora booth 344 on the #sxsw expo floor to get a demo of free & open source music creation tools!Mar 16 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks wikileaks: Hundreds of new WikiLeaks cables for the middle east released https://twitter.com/#!/AlakhbarNews http://bit.ly ...Mar 16 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Nixon didn't jail @DanielEllsberg, but: Under Obama, Better to Commit a War Crime Than Expose One huff.to/gdHjJJ /via @WLLegalMar 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Cambridge students removed from #Assange talk for alleged recording - http://bit.ly/fjHif7 hmm... (v @newsbrooke)Mar 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Japanese government and Tepco still in denial, methinks. #FukushimaMar 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Privacy International peers at Skype #security http://is.gd/M7Wlxi #privacyMar 16 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #ARD is evacuating Tokio. German government is preparing to fly out citizens. #FukushimaMar 16 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Fecking monsoons!Mar 16 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] US government wants a #privacy bill of rights http://is.gd/WmXfRKMar 16 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Il prossimo che dice "senza se e senza ma" giuro che lo insulto.Mar 16 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Java EE 7 specification gets unanimous approval (Network World): http://bit.ly/ehzOlsMar 16 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If only Microsoft was spending all this money contributing to open source browsers instead of wasting innovation in a closed one.Mar 16 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @elbek #japon antes y despues del tsunami http://is.gd/ZlyWIj por Google Earth << awesome before & after images #wearealljapaneseMar 16 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eek #NateDogg has died http://tighturl.com/30dy aged 41Mar 16 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Japan earthquake may have shortened length of days and shifted Earth’s axis (Gizmag): http://bit.ly/dJSfFjMar 16 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] only 5 matches for an unrepentant repeat offender? seems like a light sentence that will change nothing http://tighturl.com/30dzMar 16 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple delay #Japan #iPad2 launch http://tighturl.com/30e0 wouldn’t be because they don't want upstaged by a natural disaster would it?Mar 16 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a #UK specific version requires extra staff http://tighturl.com/30e1 kinda difficult with staff deserting it like rats form a sinking shipMar 16 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Mobile phones are 'Stalin's dream' says free software movement founder http://is.gd/4BvX6p Nice article on #Stallman. #security #privacy !fsMar 16 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] large corps LOVE shouting about the numbers when they're good, but they "refused to give numbers" on people who signed up to pay for itMar 16 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @webmink: If only Microsoft was spending all this money contributing to open source browsers instead of wasting innovation in a closed oneMar 16 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Viviane Reding on the warpath again, good job. http://is.gd/xQm8zb #EU #privacy #righttobeforgottenMar 16 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Fighting the weed I call Froblemacz and comparing it with the Christian battle against sin. http://cli.gs/UdEh0PMar 16 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Trying my hand at redesigning the NBLUG logo. I need some inspiration.Mar 16 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The threat of parallel filing | http://bit.ly/iiMOxa #swpatentsMar 16 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Linux kernel goes faster (Network World): http://bit.ly/h2Aa1xMar 16 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/433879/rssMar 16 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @cassidyjames Five reasons not to "upgrade" to #IE9: http://ur1.ca/3jbky #Chrome #FirefoxMar 16 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "the White House wants"? or "the copyright mafia who write their speeches want"? http://tighturl.com/30e2 #MPAA #RIAAMar 16 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fleeing walled gardens: can we be open and stay social? http://is.gd/YchmE9 !identi.ca #Diaspora #JitsiMar 16 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Datum Handbook of Time Code Formats: http://bit.ly/igVFboMar 16 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Red Eclipse 1.0; 0AD Alpha 4 [Game Updates] http://bit.ly/eMpcVqMar 16 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tagesschau.de is currently live streaming NHK.Mar 16 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] They blessed the nuclear reactor of #Fukushima before they put it in the plant? Well *that* helped!Mar 16 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] The OMG!Ubuntu! blog has officially just lost a reader. Its turned to shit. #angryMar 16 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @liotier Irrational fear of nuclear energy trumps science pretty much everywhere while no ones considers mass cancer from fossil fuel...Mar 16 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Twitter subscribers: the site is down, but if you're using a client (3rd party or not), you may still read/write tweets.Mar 16 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Brussels Eyes a Halt to SWIFT Data Agreement http://is.gd/ObY9FK #EU #PrivacyMar 16 14:49
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scientesis there any ssd that you can directly access the NAND without the FTL?Mar 16 14:57
scientesover SATAMar 16 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing a podcast....Mar 16 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] After weeks of wavering, I'm going to set drop-dead date for #Plurk. Move to #Jaiku, #Identica, #Twitter, #Statusnet, #Friendika, #DiasporaMar 16 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US coal firm Drummond paid Colombian paramilitaries http://is.gd/BUvguh !wlMar 16 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bahrain: U.S. Backs Saudi Military Intervention, Conflict With Iran. http://is.gd/aC8swf #geopoliticsMar 16 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Two of the powerhouses of OpenStack have quit - NASA's Chris Kemp http://wmk.me/err19x and Rick Clark of RackSpace. What's going on?Mar 16 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] dear !lazyweb if you have used identi.ca in conjunction with your LUG, I'd like to hear about your experiencesMar 16 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Built your biz on Twitter's API? The massah is angry. http://blog.calevans.com/2011/03/16/apple-twitter-and-digital-sharecropping/Mar 16 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8 Game Updates: Red Eclipse 1.0; 0AD Alpha 4 http://goo.gl/W4oooMar 16 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Samsung Galaxy Player 5, Android’s iPod Touch, heading to US this spring http://goo.gl/iSpZU !androidMar 16 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi !Android tablet confirmed: $599 for March 27 http://goo.gl/6B15FMar 16 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME Control Panel: Network Status http://goo.gl/hcPQhMar 16 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Outing the NHS reformers http://is.gd/owPI3t #savetheNHSMar 16 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @alexhudson ♺ @FactCheck: New on FactCheck: FactCheck: Is Lansley misleading us over the NHS? http://bit.ly/i5rnDVMar 16 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ryu88 http://bit.ly/9sQiZi Conservative MPs sign motion critical of NHS bill http://dlvr.it/KRhlNMar 16 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The @AdaInitiative wants you to take this 5 min survey about women in open technology & culture: http://adainitiative.org/projects/census/Mar 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] no matter the nationality or the politics, politicians the world over use the term"terrorist" as a pretext to justify their actionsMar 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the joke is of course on meMar 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I tried right clicking the fonts (as per http://ur1.ca/3jau5 ) but it doesn't give the license info, & now windows explorer crashedMar 16 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I can't wait to migrate to linux... this weekendMar 16 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apparently Tepco has no answers to anything anymore. So much for safe nuclear energy. Unbelievable... #FukushimaMar 16 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @webmink Two of the powerhouses of OpenStack have quit - Chris Kemp http://wmk.me/err19x and Rick Clark (@dendrobates). What's going on?Mar 16 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] El Salvador's long-ago civil war still colors U.S. relations | McClatchy http://is.gd/72ENYs !wlMar 16 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 118 dents!Mar 16 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Journal bilingual edition launches http://lwn.net/Articles/433909/rssMar 16 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ubuntu Call For Testing On The NVIDIA Blob: A call for testing has been issued on NVIDIA's binary Linux display ... http://bit.ly/eOMBFRMar 16 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bag of oregano labeled an "imitation controlled substance" by admins leads to suspension of middle school students http://ur1.ca/3jdaoMar 16 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey.... I can't go back to my house for 300 years because of an "isolated bug" in that plant. Ah, well.... Let's build more of 'em! #sarcasmMar 16 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Becoming an open leader by @gyehuda | http://bit.ly/gJKq7G #openleadership #e20Mar 16 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Writing the 4th amendment on your chest and showing it during a #TSA pat down will earn you a fat paycheck in the end http://ur1.ca/3jdb3Mar 16 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Misogyny is alive and well in technology circles http://ur1.ca/3jdbwMar 16 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Interesting that most pro-nuclear energy people on here seem to be from the US.Mar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] White House proposed sweeping revisions US copyright law, including making "illegal streaming" a federal felony http://ur1.ca/3jdcuMar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I guess it's like terrorism and war: Until it hits you guys where you live, you're all happy-go-lucky about it...Mar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA worker arrested in theft of cash from travelers http://ur1.ca/3jddgMar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The fear of missing out, and why humans suck online http://ur1.ca/3jddzMar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New York slashes hospital spending, but can't touch multimillion-dollar CEO paychecks http://ur1.ca/3jde7Mar 16 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Terroists in #Bahrain steal ambulances and shoot people seeking medical help http://ur1.ca/3jdeiMar 16 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink "War crimes good, exposing them bad" http://is.gd/yTwPJG #AJE #manning #wikileaksMar 16 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #TSA admits body scanners output 10x more radiation than safe levels http://ur1.ca/3jdf2Mar 16 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Limor Fried, has Masters in Engineering from MIT, and is hot http://ur1.ca/3jdgdMar 16 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Classic GNOME 3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://bit.ly/fITKWNMar 16 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @jpope I just hope we can provide Green form of energy that will be sufficient to meet our needs, or lessen our needs :)Mar 16 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rush Limbaugh is a fucking racist jackass (with video) http://ur1.ca/3jdkp Warning: HuffPoMar 16 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @webupd8 Classic !GNOME 3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://bit.ly/fITKWN « That might be the one for meMar 16 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] One month left to submit your talk for #LinuxCon! Great keynotes to be annced shortly. Be a part of it! http://bit.ly/5h3oN #linuxMar 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Only 2 percent of !Android phones have the latest software; tablet stats likely worse http://goo.gl/HtygfMar 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Classic GNOME !3 Beta 2 Video (No Shell) http://goo.gl/gcSTdMar 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mohanpram: When you don't run windows at home, you tend to forget how troublesome it can be. It's as if the OS goes out its way to be badMar 16 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Inauspicious Start For Chris Dodd At MPAA; Starts Off With 'Infringement No Different Than Theft' Claim - http://bit.ly/g6OC6z surprise...Mar 16 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] currently listening to a piano waltz by Anton Bruckner; in a state of some shock...Mar 16 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh actually for nuclear power we have a chance with liquid thorium. There if it overheats it melts a plug and cools downMar 16 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gunpowder tea, hot!Mar 16 16:37
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DaemonFCUbuntu is asking for testers for proprietary NvidiaMar 16 16:42
DaemonFCof course Nvidia has the same problem as other proprietary drivers, what I call the cliff problemMar 16 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Uzbekistan Shuts Down Human Rights Watch - http://bit.ly/ieeGDt can't imagine why... #uzbekistan #hrwMar 16 16:42
DaemonFCeither it works or it doesn't and there's nothing anyone but Nvidia can do about itMar 16 16:42
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well jono made fun of me earlier in his ustream as a bit of a jokeMar 16 16:43
MinceRdo you know how to recognize a tv tuner that has working gnu/linux support?Mar 16 16:43
MinceRit's not for sale anywhere, that's howMar 16 16:43
DaemonFCMinceR, There's one that specifically supports Linux, but it uses regular PCI bus and it's really expensiveMar 16 16:44
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DaemonFCwhich means that you won't see me using itMar 16 16:44
DaemonFCI have better things to earmark $200 for Mar 16 16:44
sebsebsebhi schestowitzMar 16 16:44
MinceRever since i got a slight electric shock for the supposed ground part of the tv cable here, i'm kind of wary of plugging that crap into a pci cardMar 16 16:44
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MinceRi hate this house, i hate these people, i hate this countryMar 16 16:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673Mar 16 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[morphium/@morphium] Yeah, heute vom AG Dresden freigesprochen worden, also fleißig weiter !tor Server betreiben und !wikileaks Domain am Laufen haltenMar 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Netherlands !opensource report says no savings can be made - The H Open Source: News and Features http://ping.fm/zJbcZMar 16 16:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673Mar 16 16:46
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DaemonFCLinus said like 10 years ago that he didn't want to hear about problems with proprietary drivers because, quote "when they break, and they WILL break" there's nothing Linux can do about it except wait for the company that made them to fix itMar 16 16:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/67154673 < That's why I can't stop denting even when I don't have a proper connectionMar 16 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Mar-11 08:34:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz are you alright? You haven't been denting a lot.Mar 16 16:46
schestowitz[20:45] <MinceR> i hate this house, i hate these people, i hate this countryMar 16 16:47
schestowitzCome here thenMar 16 16:47
MinceRmaybe i willMar 16 16:47
schestowitzsebsebseb: hello backMar 16 16:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: heh jono ended up making fun of me a little in his ustream earlier :dMar 16 16:48
schestowitzMinceR: I can help you out getting sortedMar 16 16:48
schestowitzToday I met the head of dept.Mar 16 16:48
DaemonFCAll Ubuntu can do by slapping a proprietary driver into Ubuntu is say "This will work for devices X, Y, and Z, for the next 6 months until we release again and then we'll see if the blob still works with that kernel"Mar 16 16:48
sebsebsebDaemonFC: right sure, but well of course Ubuntu may want those testedMar 16 16:48
schestowitzIt was a nice meeting, but I had been listening to sad tunes all days cause they sounded good (not smart in hindsight :-) )Mar 16 16:49
DaemonFCThat's why my laptop had no video acceleration for months between AMD dropping it in FGLRX and X.org/Mesa picking it upMar 16 16:49
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Canonical want Ubuntu to go main streame after all, which means propritary driversMar 16 16:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: compatibility listMar 16 16:49
schestowitzUbuntuMar 16 16:49
DaemonFCbut the open source driver means I never have to worry about it againMar 16 16:49
schestowitzNot LinuxMar 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Japan #earthquake may have shortened length of days and shifted Earth’s axis http://ping.fm/LkEleMar 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #China tightens grip on VPN access amid pro-democracy protests, Gmail users also affected -- Engadget http://ping.fm/COo8xMar 16 16:49
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schestowitzI never quite appreciated this confusion between distro features and kernel featuresMar 16 16:49
schestowitzWorks with Ubnntu(TM)Mar 16 16:49
schestowitzDo it with UbuntuMar 16 16:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ubuntu = LinuxMar 16 16:50
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ^Mar 16 16:50
schestowitzAssignment?Mar 16 16:50
schestowitzUbuntu={Linux,X, ...}Mar 16 16:50
MinceRubuntu=the new suseMar 16 16:50
sebsebsebno Ubuntu is Linux, all the other distro's don't matter anymore!Mar 16 16:51
MinceR(except suse always sucked, afaicr)Mar 16 16:51
schestowitzMinceR: why? What did suse do?Mar 16 16:51
schestowitzSLE*=Ron Hovsepian paying BallmerMar 16 16:51
sebsebsebanyway serisouly if they ever go main straeme with Ubuntu, I guess it will be a pretty much, Ubuntu is the only distro that properly matters situation, doesn't sound good to meMar 16 16:51
DaemonFCThe free driver supports my laptop better than FGLRX ever did. With FGLRX, I actually had worse performance (2d) than with the framebuffer driver and the 3d support was buggy, and there was no Composite support, and it only supported OpenGL to version 1.4, even though the chipset supports 2.1Mar 16 16:51
schestowitzNone of that funny business in UbuntuMar 16 16:51
DaemonFCso yeah, the free driver gives me none of those problemsMar 16 16:51
MinceRschestowitz: installed a daemon that made keys repeat immediately and rapidly, making the keyboard unusable under XMar 16 16:52
MinceRalso their netinstall is an atrocityMar 16 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks bad: http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/bilder/fukushima202_v-banner3x1.jpgMar 16 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Investigating Farm Subsidies on a Global Stage - http://bit.ly/fd4kvS important work, sadly hobbled #transparencyMar 16 16:54
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: Gnome Shell works with my Nivida card, but I guess if I was to try Unity it would still tell me to install proprtiary Nivida driverMar 16 16:54
sebsebsebhmmMar 16 16:54
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I mean above, they sorted Gnome Shell out, so will work with open driver properly nowMar 16 16:55
sebsebsebor as far as I know, going by a silghtly older version I tested from Live CDMar 16 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@sandersch like I said before, nothing is wrong; I've simply moved b/w apartments; BT to connect it Tuesday, then I'll resumeMar 16 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #EFF Urges Judge to Reject Dangerous New #Copyright Troll Strategy http://ping.fm/r5bOHMar 16 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Money, Patents, and Killing People - http://bit.ly/hBXRGQ "FDA's #monopoly grant and KV's outright greed will end up killing people"Mar 16 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: Money, Patents, and Killing People http://bit.ly/hBXRGQ "FDA's #monopoly grant and KV's outright greed will end up killing.."Mar 16 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Succinct review of !CrunchBang !Linux by By Michael Reed http://ping.fm/96tgnMar 16 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Lucid Hydra Is Still Useless On Linux: For anyone wondering whether the Hydra and other products from LucidLogix... http://bit.ly/fnhwljMar 16 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Adobe take far too long to fix serious security issues and they keep doing it http://ping.fm/ZZwccMar 16 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Piracy isn't just about price - O'Reilly Radar http://ping.fm/f8tPyMar 16 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Park Street, London - http://bit.ly/eLN5LG ah, amber solitude... #london #pixMar 16 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Into ignorance - http://bit.ly/htgxKJ kudos to "Nature": "the US Congress has entered the intellectual wilderness" #climatechangeMar 16 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Parents, school blame victim, a kid who defended himself http://ur1.ca/3jfluMar 16 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Egypt: female protesters tortured, sexually abused, "charged as prostitutes" http://ur1.ca/3jfmhMar 16 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Netflix To Start Creating Original Content, fuck you Cable http://ur1.ca/3jfn4Mar 16 17:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/status/47824103327014912Mar 16 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr@_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz How to promote Freedom and People's rights? How about #Anonymous ?Mar 16 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks: US coal firm Drummond paid Colombian paramilitaries http://is.gd/BUvguh http://bit.ly/gos7fEMar 16 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: El Salvador's long-ago civil war still colors U.S. relations | McClatchy http://is.gd/72ENYs http://bit.ly/eGS2pBMar 16 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Exclusion Zone around #Fukushima gets extended. Now 28K people out of their homes...Mar 16 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matt Zimmerman: DEX: !Debian and its derivatives, getting things done together http://goo.gl/WPAhWMar 16 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «The government told us it was safe (...) Now I feel angry with myself for ever having believed them.» #japan #nuked http://ur1.ca/3jg9mMar 16 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @smalljones Thinking of giving up email & only using FB, Twitter, Skype, AIM, Gtalk, Txt, Buzz, Quora, LinkedIn, & Diaspora Should I?Mar 16 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Set June 30th as my #Facebook drop-dead date. March 31st is my #Plurk drop-dead date. Account closure to occur on or before those dates.Mar 16 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek & Poke About Success Factors http://goo.gl/ECdDfMar 16 17:56
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DaemonFCGive the gift of Trash, yes friends, Trash, the most wonderful proprietary browser plug-in in the world, the one that has defied attempts to use it in X86-64 web browsers for 6 entire years, the gift that keeps on sucking your laptop and mobile phone battery down. Trash comes standard with DRM and plenty of MPEG Cartel fun for the entire family, and occasionally allows untrusted remote websites to execute arbitrary code. Fun for the entire family and RuMar 16 17:56
DaemonFCssian Mafia approved, it's Trash! From the makers of Acrocrap Reader! *Tell your friends, tell your mom, tell jono's mom!*Mar 16 17:56
MinceR:>Mar 16 17:57
MinceRjono's mom runs it on vista7 thoughMar 16 17:57
DaemonFCjono's mom has got it goin' onMar 16 17:57
DaemonFCI know it might be wrong, but I'm in love with jono's momMar 16 17:58
DaemonFC:PMar 16 17:58
DaemonFCMinceR, You ever wonder why you can implement all the important parts of a PDF reader in a 2 MB program but Acrocrap Reader is 50 megs?Mar 16 18:00
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 18:00
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rysiekpl/statuses/45799530075136000Mar 16 18:00
TechrightsBot-tr@rysiekpl: @jospoortvliet depends on where they are based; no #swpats in EU :) anywhoo, no, they do put a decent amount of work into polishing distro.Mar 16 18:00
schestowitz[21:57] <DaemonFC> jono's mom has got it goin' onMar 16 18:01
schestowitzJono is Stacy?Mar 16 18:01
DaemonFCno, Jono is a BaconMar 16 18:02
DaemonFCmmmm, Bacon!Mar 16 18:02
schestowitzFoundations of BaconMar 16 18:02
DaemonFCI will give jono that, he has the most epic last name in free softwareMar 16 18:02
DaemonFCBACON!!!!Mar 16 18:02
MinceRDaemonFC: because it's adobeMar 16 18:02
MinceRjono is not in free softwareMar 16 18:03
DaemonFCtechnically he is affiliatedMar 16 18:03
schestowitzfree copy of Vista 7...Mar 16 18:03
schestowitzHe's in Free softwareMar 16 18:03
DaemonFCyes, signed by SweatyBMar 16 18:03
schestowitzBut libre software is an area of importanceMar 16 18:03
DaemonFCVista7 Ultimate Deluxe Super Premium Unleaded EditionMar 16 18:04
schestowitzWOWOW WOWOW Where?e\Mar 16 18:04
DaemonFCextra high octane, guaranteed not to knock or ping (noticeably), only $320!Mar 16 18:04
DaemonFCthey run Explorer at HIGH priority and that's really the only reason it even "feels" faster than VistaMar 16 18:05
DaemonFCif you're perfectly happy to have Explorer and the audio stack taking priority over all of your other I/O, by all meansMar 16 18:06
DaemonFCI prefer not having anything get starved, but that's not happening with Vista7Mar 16 18:07
DaemonFC"LULZ! The sound doesn't skip!" (Yeah, it WOULDN'T when they run it at real time.....moron)Mar 16 18:08
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just submitted a talk proposal for the Libre Graphics Meeting 2011: http://outl.ws/h2ioJM -- thanks @rejon for the heads up!Mar 16 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] LM_Sensors 3.3.0 To Hit Next Week: Jean Delvare, the maintainer of the Linux kernel's i2c and hwmon subsystems a... http://bit.ly/ihaa4EMar 16 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Going to !lgm would be so ace. I always wanted to go to Canada! I wonder if the Habs are playing around that time.... :DMar 16 18:14
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/touchscreen-computing-1983/Mar 16 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Elementary Hide Caption Titlebar Plus (HCTP) Style [Firefox 4] http://bit.ly/f8v4DwMar 16 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Consumer groups warn Obama #privacy law could be dominated by industry https://eff.org/r.3zVMar 16 18:17
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/03/10/hey-dell-gnulinux-runs-on-arm-servers/Mar 16 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Stay safe, all. My thoughts go out to our Japanese brothers & sisters!Mar 16 18:22
tessierschestowitz: You back and logging now? Can I remove my other logging client?Mar 16 18:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] So Twitter's asking taxpayers to subsidize them? https://twitter.com/#!/mayoredlee/status/48142955432779776Mar 16 18:24
TechrightsBot-tr@mayoredlee: Rec'd letter from twitter saying they'll stay in SF pending tax exemption  legislation! Great news for mid Market area  #keeptwitterinSFMar 16 18:24
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walterbyrdMicrosoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companiesMar 16 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Good to see !libreplanet conf people arriving in Boston. Not too late to register: http://libreplanet.org !fsf !gnuMar 16 18:27
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walterbyrdhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/03/microsoft-lands-on-most-ethical-list.htmlMar 16 18:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110315PD214.htmlMar 16 18:30
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schestowitzwalterbyrd: TchFlash whitewashMar 16 18:31
schestowitzMaybe they found some more PRMar 16 18:31
schestowitztessier: no, not logging yetMar 16 18:31
schestowitzJust in eveningsMar 16 18:31
schestowitzUntil TuesdayMar 16 18:31
schestowitzI can't be online much cause I use cellphone netsMar 16 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Crap, the spammers have found weblit.ca - just what I didn't need. Back to the drawing board...Mar 16 18:34
tessierokMar 16 18:36
schestowitzThanks so much :-)Mar 16 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companies http://ping.fm/eKDNxMar 16 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Facebook, Google Must Obey EU Data-Privacy Law, Reding Says http://ping.fm/MJGHlMar 16 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter mollom is a handy moduleMar 16 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @silner: Microsoft lands on list of world's “most ethical” companies http://ping.fm/eKDNx yay for the convicted, unrepentant monopolistMar 16 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl http://tighturl.com/30ef Gates: Gove back to the community" like FOSS? Nah can't be. "worlds most admired technologist?" gimmie a breakMar 16 18:42
schestowitzAnd Kissinger won a Nobel prize for peace, tooMar 16 18:42
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schestowitzLOLMar 16 18:43
schestowitzThe man who took so much from everyoneMar 16 18:43
schestowitzAnd still taxes every PCMar 16 18:43
schestowitzGive back... LOL... how about he starts paying tax, which he avoids?Mar 16 18:43
schestowitzPR agents appear to have taken over everythingMar 16 18:44
schestowitzSo the rich run the show and control who's whatMar 16 18:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz, But what about all the malaria vaccine patents he's exported?Mar 16 18:45
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 18:45
DaemonFChelping to control the spread of the disease by making sure it kills anyone who can't afford helpMar 16 18:46
DaemonFCbrilliant, just like with HIVMar 16 18:46
schestowitz"I'm rich, I'm wonderful, I'm charming, I don't pay tax and you pay me a tax whenever you buy a PC whether you want to or not. But "GIVE BACK", please" --BillGMar 16 18:46
schestowitzAs though he gives people something with MicrosoftMar 16 18:46
schestowitz"Not GIVE BACK to us"Mar 16 18:46
schestowitz*NowMar 16 18:46
schestowitzHi, _GoblinMar 16 18:47
_Goblin:)Mar 16 18:47
schestowitzGot time for recording?Mar 16 18:47
_Goblincan't...lads in bed....Mar 16 18:47
schestowitzUse telepathyMar 16 18:47
_GoblintrueMar 16 18:47
DaemonFCrich celebrities with unlimited financial resources are the ones who say HIV isn't a death sentence. Of course it's not for them, they have $3,000 a monthMar 16 18:47
DaemonFCchump changeMar 16 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just noticed Techflash is "Seatles" tech news source, so a #Microsoft mouthpiece then, it explains the bizarre articles devoid of realityMar 16 18:47
DaemonFCMagic Johnson gets to live forever and they'll turn him into a cyborg after he diesMar 16 18:47
schestowitzTechFlash... paid by MicrosoftMar 16 18:48
schestowitz!google funded by Microsoft techflashMar 16 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Todd Bishop's Microsoft Blog - TechFlash: Seattle's Technology ... | http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Mar 16 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Luxury online consignment shop Yoogi's Closet funded via Ferrari | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/11/luxury_online_consignment_shop_yoogis_closet_funded_via_ferrari.htmlMar 16 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How Microsoft can regain its mojo, and once again become the ... | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/05/how_should_microsoft_regain_its_mojo.htmlMar 16 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How L.A. would switch to Google Apps, using Microsoft's money | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/09/how_la_would_adopt_google_apps_and_save_using_microsoft_money.htmlMar 16 18:48
schestowitz_Goblin: you should do a piece on them, I thinkMar 16 18:49
schestowitzLike NExtWek and NeowinMar 16 18:49
DaemonFCpersonally I find it offensive that he'd rather admit to swapping heroin needles than just admit he's on the down lowMar 16 18:49
schestowitzMicrosoft sponsors themMar 16 18:49
_Goblinthem and "The nextweb"Mar 16 18:49
schestowitzAnd in return they kiss Gates' boots and embellish Microsoft's imageMar 16 18:49
schestowitzPR disguised as "news"Mar 16 18:49
_Goblinouch...Ive been hit with some bad mails....Mar 16 18:49
schestowitzhttp://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/03/how-goldman-sachs-speculates-and-avoids.htmlMar 16 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] My neighbour started playing Lady GaGa on a massive stereo, so i turned on some Disturbed to let him know what real music sounds like.Mar 16 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] This is at 6:45 AM.Mar 16 18:51
_GoblinRE: IE9  -  "The 64-bit model is a dog. It’s several times slower than all the other browsers when it comes to JavaScript."Mar 16 18:52
_Goblinquality software as usual from RedmondMar 16 18:52
schestowitzBut it's preinstalled on all new PCs :-)Mar 16 18:52
schestowitzSo that's a killer feature right there :-)Mar 16 18:52
schestowitzActiveX? Check.Mar 16 18:53
MinceRyes, industry-killer featureMar 16 18:53
schestowitzVulns? Check.Mar 16 18:53
schestowitzForced installation? Check.Mar 16 18:53
schestowitzNow, that's ETHICALMar 16 18:53
schestowitzEven *MOST* ethical I might add :-)Mar 16 18:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, Bill Gates has jsut done so much for the communityMar 16 18:54
DaemonFCI feel compelled to give something back to himMar 16 18:54
schestowitzRockefeller tooMar 16 18:54
DaemonFCcivic dutyMar 16 18:54
schestowitzThey brought so much moneyMar 16 18:54
schestowitzOut of nothingMar 16 18:54
schestowitzAnd we can now eat the moneyMar 16 18:54
schestowitznom nom nomMar 16 18:54
MinceRDaemonFC: so do iMar 16 18:54
DaemonFCLeave Ballmer ALONE!!!!!!!Mar 16 18:54
schestowitzLOLMar 16 18:54
DaemonFCHe's jsut trying to sell you an ADVANCED WINDOWS OPERATING ENVIRONMENT!!!Mar 16 18:55
MinceRactually, i'm compelled to give something back to ballmer tooMar 16 18:55
schestowitzRemember:Mar 16 18:55
schestowitzWhen people get too rich they control the pressMar 16 18:55
schestowitzAnd then they tell us that black people will rape your sister and the world's richest people will save the worldMar 16 18:55
schestowitzThat's how they thinkMar 16 18:55
DaemonFCCan't you people see what you've DONE TO HIM!?!?!?!?!?Mar 16 18:55
schestowitzAnd they fool a lot of people, daemosing the poor and glamourising the biggest theivesMar 16 18:55
schestowitz*theivesMar 16 18:55
schestowitz*thievesMar 16 18:55
DaemonFCThe baldness and the fatness and the sweatyness!Mar 16 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Twitter security catching up? http://lnxwalt.tumblr.com/post/3907295468/bs-pr-from-bbc-twitter-users-get-extra-securityMar 16 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Cool, a rockbox developer is a local and idles in #heatsynclabs' IRC channel.Mar 16 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From The Mind Of *lnxwalt*, BS PR from BBC: Twitter Users Get Extra Security .::. Size~: 47.05 KBMar 16 18:56
DaemonFCIt's a cry for help and all you people want is MORE!!! MORE MORE MOAR!!!!Mar 16 18:56
MinceRi'd help him but it's illegal to do soMar 16 18:56
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MinceRand i don't have an army to back me against the authoritiesMar 16 18:56
DaemonFCMinceR, He slaved for you over a Visual C compiler to bring you that clock and that Reversi!Mar 16 18:57
schestowitzViktor has Kalashnikov, da?Mar 16 18:57
DaemonFCAnd THIS is the thanks he gets!?Mar 16 18:57
MinceRDaemonFC: i wish that was all he brought meMar 16 18:58
schestowitz?K?p?|?p????~?y?{???r OrbanMar 16 18:58
DaemonFCMinceR, But it has a clock, and Reversi, now how much do you think it's worth? $500? Wait just one second before you answer! You don't have a choice!Mar 16 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone should do a Donald Duck cartoon, where he plays a p2p speculative invoicing lawyer, constantly thwarted by judges & PR backlashesMar 16 18:59
MinceRDaemonFC: perhaps you only got the sign wrongMar 16 18:59
DaemonFCMinceR, Not even if Ballmer throws in Chips Challenge at no additional charge?Mar 16 19:00
MinceRdoesn't sound very reassuringMar 16 19:00
schestowitztessier: I get cache error on http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_EuropeMar 16 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Patents in Europe - Techrights .::. Size~: 48.28 KBMar 16 19:01
tessierchecking...Mar 16 19:01
tessierI just got a page tooMar 16 19:01
_GoblinI see Brandons due to start a podcast?Mar 16 19:01
DaemonFCMinceR, Windows Entertainment PackMar 16 19:02
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 19:02
tessierI've got some new hardware coming in which will vastly expand our capacity. Hope to have it up in the next week or two.Mar 16 19:02
tessierThat will really help out with a lot of little issues like this that keep popping up.Mar 16 19:02
MinceRDaemonFC: a hammer to smash the install media and the boxes with?Mar 16 19:02
MinceRi almost said "and a match to set the manuals on fire" but then i remembered what m$ thinks of documentationm.Mar 16 19:03
MinceRs/nm/n/Mar 16 19:03
DaemonFCMinceR, "It's about an easier PC from day one." (on a leaflet in the Windows 7 box)Mar 16 19:04
DaemonFCall the documentation you need until you get a system full of assorted malware from using Internet ExplorerMar 16 19:04
MinceRi guess it's easier if you accept not being able to use it for anythingMar 16 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps with him representing #Disney ......that'd be funnyMar 16 19:04
MinceRexcept joining a botnetMar 16 19:04
MinceRor twoMar 16 19:04
MinceRor...Mar 16 19:04
DaemonFCAll those unsupported unpatched Windows 2000 machines out there with fast internet connections.......Mar 16 19:05
*DaemonFC droolsMar 16 19:05
DaemonFCthese people don't even have to try, all they have to do is target old versions of Windows that don't get patched anymore, because lots of companies are too cheap to updateMar 16 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Great article on using Secmark iptables labeling w/ SELinux, by @rhatdan on linux.com - http://is.gd/Iti7GvMar 16 19:11
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scientesis there any ssd that you can directly access the NAND without the FTL? over SATAMar 16 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kudos to Apple! ♻ @storming Apple's Role in Japan during the Tohoku Earthquake http://bit.ly/hCwXUNMar 16 19:12
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scientesDaemonFC: it doesn't cost anything (moneyw-wise) for security updatesMar 16 19:13
DaemonFCit does when it's no longer supportedMar 16 19:13
DaemonFCyou can buy hotfixes for non-supported Windows but it's expensiveMar 16 19:13
DaemonFCand most companies go on using it unpatchedMar 16 19:13
cubezzzwhat is unsupported?Mar 16 19:15
DaemonFCthere was one Critical patch that I can remember, Microsoft offered it to the company I was at at the time for $10,000Mar 16 19:15
DaemonFCbecause Windows NT 4 was EOLMar 16 19:15
*cubezzz supports FC1 Mar 16 19:15
DaemonFC$10,000 or just skip the patch and take your chances?Mar 16 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @beefymiracle Ketchup with the AWESOME Fedora QA team at this week's !fedora Preupgrade Test Day. Thursday, 3/17. http://bit.ly/g62KoBMar 16 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gnusay: ♺ @Lopi: w00t! #Sound is now working on the #iPhone3G in !SHR. Time to work on implementing the #baseband and #accelerometer. #iXMar 16 19:16
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cubezzza perfect example of why not to use windows at allMar 16 19:16
DaemonFCthey use EOL as a tool to beat you over the head with, either you buy hotfixes or you buy new machines and new Windows licensesMar 16 19:16
DaemonFCeither way they get to fleece you so they don't really care what you doMar 16 19:16
cubezzzany closed source OS....Mar 16 19:17
cubezzzthe older it gets, the more important it is to be FOSSMar 16 19:17
cubezzztake games for exampleMar 16 19:17
cubezzzI was able to fix some bugs in a commerical gameMar 16 19:18
cubezzzbut only for myselfMar 16 19:18
cubezzzwell, also for the company tooMar 16 19:18
DaemonFCby fix you mean got lucky with a hex editor?Mar 16 19:18
cubezzznoMar 16 19:18
cubezzzI signed an NDA and fixing the bugs and commited them via svnMar 16 19:18
cubezzzand fixedMar 16 19:18
cubezzznot ideal, but better than nothingMar 16 19:19
DaemonFChardware companies use drivers as leverage all the timeMar 16 19:19
DaemonFCremember Creative v. DanielK?Mar 16 19:19
cubezzzcan't say that I doMar 16 19:20
DaemonFChe fixed up their shitty driver to support Vista, then he went and found that the cheap cards were the same exact things as the expensive onesMar 16 19:20
DaemonFCso he flipped on all the features and got threatened into submission by CreativeMar 16 19:20
cubezzzDaemonFC, you know what happens with windows games sometimes?Mar 16 19:20
cubezzzthey are shipped without actually being 100% finishedMar 16 19:20
DaemonFCCreative makes one model of sound card and uses drivers to enable or disable features depending on what you've paid themMar 16 19:21
cubezzzI saw that because we were working on a Linux portMar 16 19:21
DaemonFCso yeah, I don't buy Creative anythingMar 16 19:21
cubezzzgee, sounds like a video card :)Mar 16 19:21
DaemonFCno, with video cards there actually are differences in the hardware between modelsMar 16 19:22
DaemonFCI'm talking same exact sound card with different firmware and driversMar 16 19:22
DaemonFCsometimes there's a case where they sell a budget card that's the same thing as the full featured oneMar 16 19:23
DaemonFCbut it's not as common as with simpler hardware like sound cardsMar 16 19:23
DaemonFCcubexyz, It wasn't until late last year that you could use a Creative X-FI with ALSAMar 16 19:24
DaemonFCand that's been out since 2006Mar 16 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US military's "gratuitously harsh treatment" of Manning condemned by NYT, WaPo, LAT, ACLU http://ur1.ca/3jhom !wlMar 16 19:24
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DaemonFCbefore that you had to patch OSS 4 into the kernel to use that cardMar 16 19:24
cubezzzI'm cubezzz at the moment :)Mar 16 19:24
DaemonFCtab completionMar 16 19:24
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 19:24
cubezzzahMar 16 19:24
DaemonFCIn a lot of ways OSS 4 is actually better than ALSAMar 16 19:25
MinceRand in a lot of ways it's actually worse.Mar 16 19:25
DaemonFCI just use ALSA because it's a nightmare to maintain outside drivers Mar 16 19:25
cubezzzactually I use both :)Mar 16 19:25
cubezzzI'm a universalist minus the windozeMar 16 19:25
MinceRcompeting product is better in some ways, worse in others. news at 11.Mar 16 19:25
MinceRgnMar 16 19:26
cubezzzlaterzMar 16 19:26
DaemonFCyou don't have to use Pulseaudio because the OSS 4 mixer is much betterMar 16 19:26
DaemonFCdmix is simple and stupid and uselessMar 16 19:26
DaemonFCand Pulseaudio is a cover upMar 16 19:26
cubezzzyou're talking to retro-man hereMar 16 19:26
cubezzzso no pulseaudio Mar 16 19:26
DaemonFCyou'Mar 16 19:27
DaemonFCerrrMar 16 19:27
DaemonFCyou're going to get latency either wayMar 16 19:27
DaemonFCit's just less with OSS 4Mar 16 19:27
DaemonFCevery time Linux says something is low latency, take it with a pinch of saltMar 16 19:28
cubezzzrun ardourMar 16 19:28
cubezzzit's good for recordingMar 16 19:28
MinceRDaemonFC: have you tried JACK?Mar 16 19:28
DaemonFCno, I've accepted Pulseaudio as a fact of lifeMar 16 19:29
cubezzzthe beauty of GNU/Linux is you don't have to accept anything Mar 16 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Erasing Data from Flash Drives http://ur1.ca/3jhp0 #BruceSchneier blog #security #privacyMar 16 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol 8 track is killing music, in 1976 http://tighturl.com/30ekMar 16 19:32
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schestowitztessier: thanks a lot :-)Mar 16 19:35
schestowitz[23:04] <MinceR> except joining a botnetMar 16 19:36
schestowitz[23:04] <MinceR> or twoMar 16 19:36
schestowitzOr a botnet inside the botnet... where the botmaster has an insider of his/her hijack machines from the botnet :-)Mar 16 19:36
MinceRyo dawg, i heard you like botnets...Mar 16 19:36
tessierhehMar 16 19:38
schestowitzMinceR: yeah, I thought about doing that lineMar 16 19:38
schestowitzBut I overdid DAWN recently.Mar 16 19:38
MinceRDAWN?Mar 16 19:38
schestowitztypoMar 16 19:38
schestowitzI got us a boom box so we can typo while you're typingMar 16 19:39
MinceR:>Mar 16 19:40
DaemonFCIf I ever make a botnet I'll have to call it HandBananaMar 16 19:43
DaemonFCTonight......you!Mar 16 19:43
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAKL3Og-zGcMar 16 19:44
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_GoblinRoy, we should have Brandon on the show again (if he agrees) to talk about his site/views.Mar 16 19:45
_GoblinI think it would make an interesting ep.Mar 16 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do "end of the world" cults get a discount in stores during heavy storms on the basis that they may have picked the right team?Mar 16 19:46
DaemonFCinstalling Prey\Mar 16 19:48
DaemonFCwonder if this works with radeonMar 16 19:48
_GoblinLMar 16 19:48
_GoblinKs Mar 16 19:48
_GoblinIsn't prey old?Mar 16 19:49
DaemonFCyeah, but Gallium didn't support GLSL 1.2 properly until recentlyMar 16 19:49
_Goblin"Lacks any challenge   Aliens speak English and sound dumb doing so   Action is overly straightforward."Mar 16 19:49
_Goblinhttp://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/prey/review.htmlMar 16 19:50
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DaemonFCcould explain why I got it for freeMar 16 19:50
DaemonFCjust a guessMar 16 19:50
_GoblinlolMar 16 19:50
_GoblinIm maxing out on Killzone 3Mar 16 19:50
_Goblindamn fine wholesome title there.Mar 16 19:50
_Goblincomplete with stab in head, eye gouging and neck slicing...Mar 16 19:51
_Goblinall in the name of entertainment....Mar 16 19:51
schestowitz_Goblin: definitelyMar 16 19:52
_Goblin......and damn it,,,,it is good fun.Mar 16 19:52
schestowitzabout brandonMar 16 19:52
_Goblinyeah....I read his site for the first time todayMar 16 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski: The envy. RT @simonklose Great day with Brokep, Daniel and Moot in Zurich #flattr #openleaks #4chanMar 16 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Triumph Against Software Patents in Europe as EU Treaty Brought Up http://ur1.ca/3jib4 #swpatsMar 16 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Triumph Against Software Patents in Europe as EU Treaty Brought Up http://ur1.ca/3jib4 #eu #patents #uspto #google #ftcMar 16 19:52
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schestowitzEnder2070 and I need to speak about misinterpretation of my intentionsMar 16 19:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/48126399235637248Mar 16 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Don't you think an open company should mention the fact that it made a payment in an FAQ on such a deal?Mar 16 19:53
DaemonFCdammit, 32-bit game wanting 32-bit librariesMar 16 19:53
DaemonFCgahMar 16 19:53
*DaemonFC goes to retrieveMar 16 19:53
schestowitzHe ran out of FUDMar 16 19:53
schestowitzRan back to ~2007Mar 16 19:53
schestowitzAnd said that not talking about paying to defend oneself is "Evil"Mar 16 19:54
schestowitzBut Microsoft os "cooperative"Mar 16 19:54
schestowitzIt only extortsMar 16 19:54
schestowitzYour till or you kneecapMar 16 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @kevieMar 16 19:54
schestowitzThat's OKMar 16 19:54
_Goblindon't forget bullies...it does that tooMar 16 19:54
schestowitzRed Hat not saying it paid to have the case dismissed = evil, says Microsoft FlorianMar 16 19:54
DaemonFCahhh, 32-bit libGL drivers aren't there by default, okMar 16 19:55
DaemonFCwho would ever want those? :)Mar 16 19:55
_Goblinget a PS3....save yourself the bother of install headachesMar 16 19:55
schestowitzThis guy makes me sick even when he's polite... it's like Bill o'ReillyMar 16 19:55
_Goblinhavent really had much contact with the chapMar 16 19:55
schestowitzOMG!!! Obama did not wear a tie!! MARXIST!!Mar 16 19:55
DaemonFCafter all, 32-bit OpenGL support take an entire megabyte that they could otherwise use for MS Visual JAVA: Novell EditionMar 16 19:55
schestowitz_Goblin: I kept trying to figure out how to cover newsMar 16 19:56
schestowitzMy mind would wander after 10 seconds each time todayMar 16 19:56
schestowitzThat impacts the coverage a lot, starting next weekMar 16 19:57
schestowitzI'm leaning more towards RSS now. It's just that what's already on identica does not need to be repeatedMar 16 19:57
schestowitzI can try to feed new links and original dents into it by sticking with RSSMar 16 19:57
_Goblinmaybe you should outsource the links job on Techrights to someone......that way its still there and you can spend more time on other things.Mar 16 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter yes but not 'til after !mynovel upload is done (checking font copyright... if unable to resolve will need to reformat)Mar 16 19:57
schestowitzBut who would want to do it?Mar 16 19:58
schestowitzDoing the links also helps me set aside the ones to cover as articlesMar 16 19:58
_GoblinIm sure there's someone willing to helpMar 16 19:58
schestowitzThe way I do it involves several text filesMar 16 19:58
schestowitzAnd they are classified by what goes where... always refined over the past 5 yearsMar 16 19:58
schestowitz_Goblin: I know some who mightMar 16 19:58
_Goblinhow about this.....having a links round up at the end of the month instead....Mar 16 19:59
schestowitzIs someone in this channel interested in arrangign daily links to thousands of subscribers?Mar 16 19:59
schestowitzI can hand over the template, it's fairly easy to fill that inMar 16 19:59
_Goblin..bad time to ask....late for many....Mar 16 20:00
*DaemonFC smashes fgl_glxgears and throws the bits at _Goblin Mar 16 20:00
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 20:00
schestowitz_Goblin: month is too longMar 16 20:00
schestowitzPeople want to know what's newMar 16 20:00
_GoblinDaemonFC: as I say....PS3...cures all that ails yaMar 16 20:00
_Goblinbut then you have your dent links for that.Mar 16 20:00
schestowitzI can still do 20 posts per dayMar 16 20:00
*DaemonFC angryMar 16 20:01
*DaemonFC SMASH!!!Mar 16 20:01
schestowitzBut I spent a lot of time in identica since NovemberMar 16 20:01
schestowitzI'm also second most prolific now after fabMar 16 20:01
_GoblinI have your dents on Openbytes in the side bar....works wellMar 16 20:01
schestowitzAh :-)Mar 16 20:01
schestowitzI plan to do less politicsMar 16 20:01
schestowitzI lost sight of the key topics I'm qualified to write detailed posts aboutMar 16 20:02
DaemonFCthis would probably be easier to use in Wine than the broken Linux binaries they gave meMar 16 20:02
schestowitzI should really leave some subjects to those who concentrate on them, e.g. nuclear energyMar 16 20:02
schestowitzAnother thing is, we need to track patents betterMar 16 20:02
schestowitzANd less on copyright law, IMHOMar 16 20:02
schestowitzCopyright=too broad a subjectMar 16 20:03
schestowitzToo time-consuming, I got sucked inMar 16 20:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, Patents are major interference in trying to implement a free OpenGL stackMar 16 20:03
DaemonFCnow I am really pissedMar 16 20:03
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 20:03
schestowitzyesMar 16 20:03
schestowitzThey're a menace to all softwareMar 16 20:03
schestowitzIt's not a FOSS issueMar 16 20:03
schestowitzIt's a freedom of coding issueMar 16 20:03
_GoblinI think copyright is a far bigger threat than patent because it has the potential to infringe on individuals "average users" liberties....Mar 16 20:03
DaemonFCright, patent trolls go after proprietary software companies that can't afford to defend themselves all the timeMar 16 20:04
DaemonFCand it's just as disgusting thereMar 16 20:04
schestowitzEVerybody wants a little monopoly for self in SW and then you end up with a mine fieldMar 16 20:04
schestowitz_Goblin: yesMar 16 20:04
schestowitzCopyrights are in more areasMar 16 20:04
schestowitzFor obvious reasonsMar 16 20:04
schestowitzANd each implementation is copyrightMar 16 20:04
schestowitzUnlike patentsMar 16 20:04
DaemonFCcopyright is more acceptable than patents are, with regards to softwareMar 16 20:04
DaemonFCa RHEL clone is RHEL without the artwork and name, OKMar 16 20:05
schestowitzYou cannot accidentally infringe on copyrights unless it's crazy copyrightsMar 16 20:05
schestowitzLike drum beatsMar 16 20:05
_Goblinand like I say, the outcome could be complete restriction on the individual.......patents are though an important topic best left for you to cover, but just look at the DEB, the three strikes and the US switching off sites without due process.....all these actions directly impact on the individual and take away basic freedoms.Mar 16 20:05
schestowitz!google youtube amen breakMar 16 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Video explains the world's most important 6-sec drum loop | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5SaFTm2bcacMar 16 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Amen Break - normal, fast and slow version | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DqwQLk7NcpO4Mar 16 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Amen Break - Amen, Brother - The Winstons | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsbCYZOJxK6AMar 16 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Amen Break - Drum and Bass | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dd0dLO0QBlxEMar 16 20:05
_Goblinthe right to free speech....Mar 16 20:06
_Goblinbut more importantly.......Mar 16 20:06
schestowitzTHat tooMar 16 20:06
schestowitzAnd you can't critiicse without quotingMar 16 20:06
_Goblinthe right to fair trial before your peers.Mar 16 20:06
schestowitzSo it's more than FAIR use, it's ESSENTIAL useMar 16 20:06
DaemonFCbe careful what you wish forMar 16 20:06
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 20:06
schestowitzIf I can't provide contextMar 16 20:06
DaemonFCthe government and prosecution have more say over who "your peers" are than you or your defenseMar 16 20:07
schestowitzParaphrasing leads to misinterpretation and ambiguity/miattrib/misquote/etcMar 16 20:07
DaemonFCso maybe this is not a good thing?Mar 16 20:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: still on probation?Mar 16 20:07
_GoblinDaemonFC: theres some truth in that....Mar 16 20:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Haven't been on probation since 2009Mar 16 20:08
_GoblinDaemonFC: however I think its the only system we've got and Ive yet to see any "brave new world" theory which offers any less a corruptable systemMar 16 20:08
_Goblinthe problem isn't corrupt systems....its human natureMar 16 20:08
_Goblinwe are greedy and selfish by designMar 16 20:09
_Goblinits called survivalMar 16 20:09
schestowitzOf the feet(est)Mar 16 20:09
DaemonFCthe government stacks the jury against youMar 16 20:09
DaemonFCwith jurors who are sympathetic to the government's caseMar 16 20:09
schestowitzNot "anarchists"Mar 16 20:10
schestowitzWhere the term refers to free thinkersMar 16 20:10
DaemonFCplea deals convict innocent people because they know how much worse it could get if it goes to court under those circumstances Mar 16 20:10
_Goblincould you imagine if the Polar bear started to offer its limited food to other creatures in unfortunate predicaments........it would hit extinction even quicker....A charitable and generous polar bear won't last longMar 16 20:10
schestowitzDaemonFC like some inmate who knows the ins and outs of the court system *chuckles*Mar 16 20:11
_GoblinDaemonFC: probably because the jury are made up of law abiding citizens and fine crime quite disturbingMar 16 20:11
schestowitzDependsMar 16 20:11
schestowitzWe are more complex civilisations than they areMar 16 20:11
_Goblinby inventions....Mar 16 20:11
schestowitzSo we reward those who are perceived to be reciprocatorsMar 16 20:11
_Goblinbut then its like work.....Mar 16 20:12
_Goblinwork = rewardMar 16 20:12
_Goblinremove the reward remove the desire to workMar 16 20:12
schestowitzIn fact, it's said that any favours are only ever done with expectation of return, even if just the liklihood of itMar 16 20:12
cubezzzhmmmMar 16 20:12
schestowitzSo in a society that hails morals the returns and externalities can be 'mended'Mar 16 20:12
DaemonFC_Goblin, More like hand picked for their low OK and eagerness to get their jury duty over withMar 16 20:12
DaemonFCfry the bastard and lets go to lunch :)Mar 16 20:13
DaemonFC*low IQMar 16 20:13
_GoblinDaemonFC: couldn't comment on a hypothetical jury....but my sister was selected once, and she took it very seriouslyMar 16 20:13
schestowitz"Uncle Sam wants YOU... in court"Mar 16 20:13
_GoblinDaemonFC: and she has a rather high IWMar 16 20:13
_Goblin*IQMar 16 20:14
DaemonFCIt beats taking your chances with a bench trialMar 16 20:14
schestowitzWho *wouldn't* take that seriouslyMar 16 20:14
DaemonFCbut so does anythingMar 16 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: WikiLeaks news update http://is.gd/RuUz3k http://bit.ly/fAG1oHMar 16 20:14
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DaemonFC_Goblin, My confidence in the jury system goes down every time they hand those MAFIAA bastards a winMar 16 20:14
DaemonFCnuff said? :)Mar 16 20:14
_GoblinDaemonFC: not really...since I thought that allegation was levelled at judgesMar 16 20:15
schestowitzDOJ is RIAA-occupiedMar 16 20:15
_Goblinand certainly in the UK......Judge Birss is not for the paying.Mar 16 20:15
DaemonFCthe jury decides tho wins and what the damages areMar 16 20:15
DaemonFCthe damages can have a statutory minimumMar 16 20:15
_Goblinhe was having none of the ACS:Law fiascoMar 16 20:15
DaemonFCbut quite often the jury gives them insane overinflated damagesMar 16 20:15
schestowitzI saw your post about bbc1Mar 16 20:16
DaemonFClike $1 million per MP3Mar 16 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://is.gd/RuUz3k !wlMar 16 20:16
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schestowitzDarn, I keep falling off IRC with this connectionMar 16 20:16
_Goblinschestowitz: mine?Mar 16 20:16
schestowitzAnd this dongle must be frying my brain tooMar 16 20:16
DaemonFCso I think the jury system is bad on both countsMar 16 20:16
DaemonFCthey hand the win over to the MAFIAA and then give them more than the required damagesMar 16 20:17
schestowitzAt least it's a meter away from my head, unlike most mobile phonsMar 16 20:17
_Goblinbut it matters not.....the amount is so high it would never be paid anywayMar 16 20:17
schestowitz_Goblin: yours, yessMar 16 20:17
schestowitz_Goblin: it's for the headlinesMar 16 20:17
_Goblinschestowitz: words cannot express the contempt I hold the BBC inMar 16 20:17
schestowitzTo scare with huge sumsMar 16 20:18
schestowitz_Goblin: I got two letters from TV licence todayMar 16 20:18
schestowitzMy bin likes those :-)Mar 16 20:18
schestowitzNom Nom Nom... \o/Mar 16 20:18
_GoblinBut what of the fake detectors?Mar 16 20:20
_Goblinare you not frightened?Mar 16 20:20
_Goblinwhat about the "claim" they can enter your property without warrant?Mar 16 20:21
_Goblinare you not scared?Mar 16 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: How India kept pressure of Sri-Lanka http://alturl.com/mdcji !wlMar 16 20:21
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schestowitzHaMar 16 20:21
schestowitzI've learned from experienceMar 16 20:21
_GoblinBBC, the only thing more bent than the "service" are the claims they make over laws to enforce it.Mar 16 20:21
schestowitzI've been getting those letters for ages and spent too much time on themMar 16 20:21
schestowitzI know where TV tax goesMar 16 20:22
_Goblinno warrant, no enter.  You do not have to answer questions and those detector vans are fake......yet after all that.....I still pay my license....who's the fool here?Mar 16 20:22
schestowitzStamps and papers... and people in call centres getting told 20 times in 10 years that "I don't have a goddamn TV"Mar 16 20:22
schestowitz!google xray van Mar 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - X-Ray Van Sees Through Homes | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSZ2YW7-4GbwMar 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans - Andy ... | http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/08/24/full-body-scan-technology-deployed-in-street-roving-vans/Mar 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Forbes - XRAY Vans Deployed on US Streets | Ron Paul 2012 | Sound ... | http://www.dailypaul.com/143161/forbes-xray-vans-deployed-on-us-streetsMar 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Z Backscatter Van highly mobile threat detection system | http://www.as-e.com/zbv/Mar 16 20:23
schestowitzNow they'll give you cancer from the street :-)Mar 16 20:24
schestowitzAnd not give you the chance to even say, "no thanks, grope my junk instead"Mar 16 20:24
_Goblinschestowitz: wheelie bins......."Council tracking chip inside"Mar 16 20:25
_Goblinunless of course, you buy a wheelie bin for around £20, then you can fill it with whatever you likeMar 16 20:25
abeNd-orgim amazed they havent been able to chip babies like they do dogs Mar 16 20:25
schestowitzSo, soon I can throw away the scale tooMar 16 20:26
schestowitzJust empty the trash, stand in it, then get my weight by snail mail ;-)Mar 16 20:26
_GoblinI think we should chip everything.........it would be great......better yet, we can have an android app which detects the said chip and gives you all the details on the person you meet....we wouldnt even need to talk to each other.....what a wonderful idea......Mar 16 20:27
schestowitzabeNd-org: what for?Mar 16 20:27
schestowitzabeNd-org: RFID is passeMar 16 20:27
schestowitzThey have cell/mobileMar 16 20:27
schestowitzAnd they sell it like a status necessityMar 16 20:27
schestowitzA bit like facek00kMar 16 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Seems they're down! :( ♺ @trashheap: Also, anyone know what is up with the !Openmoko listservs? They seem to be down for the past few days.Mar 16 20:27
abeNd-orglots of people still are without cell phonesMar 16 20:27
schestowitzYou're not a person if you're not giving away all your 'friends'' names and carry around a surveillance device that's marketed as 'friends magnet'Mar 16 20:28
schestowitzabeNd-org: not hereMar 16 20:28
_Goblinlol....Mar 16 20:28
schestowitzAnd I'm used to the looks I get when I say I don't carry a mobile for personal reasonMar 16 20:28
cubezzzyou're a stallmanite!Mar 16 20:29
_GoblinI get the same look when I tell people I don't have a facebook accountMar 16 20:29
cubezzzthat's the reasonMar 16 20:29
schestowitzI told the lady at the health club 2 days ago that phone still do the same as in the 90sMar 16 20:29
schestowitzBut people don't think about itMar 16 20:29
schestowitzThey think pinching some lousy screen is funner than playing football or World of WarcraftMar 16 20:30
schestowitzIn the 90s I was still sending similarly formatted SMS Mar 16 20:30
_Goblinawww WOW.....you are making me want to go back to it.....Im an ex-addict you have to be carefulMar 16 20:30
schestowitzThe phone calls were top quality tooMar 16 20:30
schestowitzSize has not changed much, either. It actually grew biggerMar 16 20:30
schestowitzsmartphonesMar 16 20:31
_Goblinmmmm World of Warcraft.....took me a year and a half to give that upMar 16 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Thanks to @psquid's RPM build I'm using !Heybuddy on Meego(booted from a USB flash drive)Mar 16 20:31
schestowitzBack around 1994 you can get clam-sized phonesMar 16 20:31
_GoblinI miss the rotary telephonesMar 16 20:31
abeNd-orgif they chipped babies they wouldnt have to worry about making people buy cell phones to track themMar 16 20:31
schestowitzBack then they had to work harder too, fewer antennas and allMar 16 20:31
schestowitzThese days triangulating around phones and always-on make it easy to trackMar 16 20:32
_Goblinunless you have a WP7....then its hosed more than its onMar 16 20:32
_Goblinmaybe thats a reason to get WP7......Mar 16 20:32
_Goblinharder to track because the damn thing doesn't work properlyMar 16 20:32
schestowitzThere'e reception at high density+dynamics+mesh everywhere... storage is cheaper too so retaining phonecalls in the UK has become fashionable (not among users, among authorities)Mar 16 20:32
schestowitz"For training purposes your call may be recorded"Mar 16 20:33
schestowitzMy, thank you!Mar 16 20:33
schestowitzAnd all the personal calls too, but they don't tell you thatMar 16 20:33
schestowitztranslation of case 1: "we keep you on file, but this will help us help you... we value you as a customer"Mar 16 20:35
schestowitztranslation of case 2: "we keep you on file, but we are just trying to save you from those dancing Talibanites"Mar 16 20:35
schestowitzSceptic: "but you know I am not from the Taliban, do you *still* have to record all my calls?" :-)Mar 16 20:36
schestowitz_Goblin: before I forget, O2 lied to meMar 16 20:36
schestowitzThey made it seem like having a SIM card once would give me discountMar 16 20:37
schestowitzLittle white liesMar 16 20:37
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schestowitzWhite to them, brown to me :-pMar 16 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @x11r5: @hgfernan Viendo la charla de jon maddog en la cabeza la cancion de im a slave for you they are wrongMar 16 20:37
_Goblinyes theres a very pungent smell around o2....Mar 16 20:37
schestowitzEarlier I was visiting a financial rant site and O2 blocked itMar 16 20:38
schestowitzIt said I need to be over 18Mar 16 20:38
_GoblinlolMar 16 20:38
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schestowitzBut it was misclassifiedMar 16 20:38
schestowitzThey protect me from myself :-)Mar 16 20:38
_Goblinhand over your credit card number and that "proves" you are over 18Mar 16 20:38
_Goblin(I think thats how they do it)Mar 16 20:39
_GoblinT-Mobile did the same thing....Mar 16 20:39
_Goblinso I rang them up and threatened to take away my custom.....apparently this was the proof they needed and they unlocked the phone.Mar 16 20:39
schestowitzWhile purging spam now I find: "<strong>Microsoft coffee table....</strong>"Mar 16 20:39
schestowitzNever give the numberMar 16 20:40
cubezzzI've never owned a cell phoneMar 16 20:40
schestowitzYou're in control as long as they can't chargeMar 16 20:40
schestowitzUnless it's BTMar 16 20:40
schestowitzThen they hold you by the bal... I mean, the lineMar 16 20:40
_GoblinI agree....Im not giving them my credit card number to prove Im 18....they were happy to set up my direct debit without any such proofMar 16 20:40
cubezzzBT sounds awfulMar 16 20:41
cubezzzmost of my customers just contact me via gmailMar 16 20:42
cubezzzno phone tagMar 16 20:42
_GoblinI havent used my landline for calls for months....Mar 16 20:42
_Goblinthere's not even a phone plugged into it, its merely for the broadbandMar 16 20:42
cubezzzdry DSL?Mar 16 20:42
cubezzzI hope you're not paying for both :)Mar 16 20:43
_GoblinI get a good deal on my mobile with free calls so I use that for everythingMar 16 20:43
_Goblinand yes...I am...Mar 16 20:43
_Goblin£16 line rental and £12ish pound for the netMar 16 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Mobilizy joined W3C - Mobilizy joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1bNOjIMar 16 20:44
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_Goblinright...smoke breakMar 16 20:44
schestowitzyeah, line rental...Mar 16 20:46
_Goblin,,,,Before I go to have a smoke:Mar 16 20:46
_Goblin"Ex Sony Exec: Tablets Could Replace Consoles"Mar 16 20:46
_Goblinhttp://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPad-2-Sony-NGP-Honeycomb-Nintendo-3DS-XOOM,news-10471.html#xtor=RSS-211Mar 16 20:46
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schestowitzIt's late already, gotta be at work ~9Mar 16 20:46
schestowitzNot got to actually, I do plan to...Mar 16 20:47
_Goblinyes because people want to carry a 60inch tablet around for the full on gaming experience.Mar 16 20:47
cubezzzyeah I like the older tech betterMar 16 20:47
schestowitzCan't do fast SSH+X from a mobile connectionMar 16 20:47
cubezzzax.25 is totally free internetMar 16 20:47
schestowitzSo I go there physicallyMar 16 20:47
cubezzzand hardly anyone uses itMar 16 20:47
cubezzzin the 80's there was talk of downloading software via FM radioMar 16 20:48
schestowitz_Goblin: replace "tablet" with another word and you have an extraordinary claimMar 16 20:48
schestowitzAsk David ACCESSger for details... he sells thoseMar 16 20:49
schestowitzcubezzz: too noisy?Mar 16 20:49
schestowitz schestowitz_log Mar 16 20:49:50 <schestowitz>Unless you do repeat signals for noise correctionMar 16 20:49
cubezzzschestowitz, there is data transmission over FM radio Mar 16 20:50
schestowitz"Go away, sonny, be quiet... BBC radio is broadcasting DOOM in one minute"Mar 16 20:50
cubezzzjust not very much of itMar 16 20:50
cubezzzstill have to study it moreMar 16 20:50
schestowitzFor audio it's OKMar 16 20:50
schestowitzWith software any bit of noise can break a programMar 16 20:50
cubezzzpacket radio...Mar 16 20:51
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schestowitzneed checksum in hardwareMar 16 20:51
cubezzzI'm sure there's error correctionMar 16 20:51
schestowitzyeah, but...Mar 16 20:51
schestowitzI was thinking of you saying they'd broadcast radio to phone/PC via microphoneMar 16 20:51
schestowitzThat would be weirdMar 16 20:51
schestowitzLike ShazamMar 16 20:51
cubezzzyeah, I have to study this more Mar 16 20:52
schestowitzOnly with lossyness being an issueMar 16 20:52
cubezzzthe internet is lossyMar 16 20:52
cubezzzpackets are not delivered 100%Mar 16 20:53
schestowitzToday I visited the site of a Prof I worked with and hal;f the links were deadMar 16 20:53
cubezzzlink rotMar 16 20:53
schestowitzThe funny thing was, the page was updated a year agoMar 16 20:53
schestowitzAnd the links just stay thereMar 16 20:53
schestowitzNo easy way to check their aalidity eitherMar 16 20:53
cubezzzsometimes old links will rise from the graveMar 16 20:53
schestowitzLink rot does not exist in published literature cause you just name the paper, but...Mar 16 20:54
cubezzzusually not thoughMar 16 20:54
schestowitzIf the paper is no longer preserved in any form, you won' even know it.Mar 16 20:54
schestowitzcubezzz: more likely by cyber/typojackersMar 16 20:54
schestowitzWHo channel all traffic into custom pages with promotional linksMar 16 20:55
schestowitzgnMar 16 20:55
cubezzzlaterzMar 16 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for March 17, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/432754/rssMar 16 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Off to bed.Mar 16 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF lets the #sunshine in - celebrating #SunshineWeek by posting nearly 9,000 government documents to our site. https://eff.org/r.z9W #FOIAMar 16 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram So want a Pre 3, hopefully #Sprint will get it!Mar 16 21:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] anyone here work on a libc? I could use a pointer on implementing modf, I wanna be portable so I'm against bitshifting the retval away !cMar 16 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How USAID works (unknowingly recruiting a Cuban security officer) http://is.gd/jydoRm #interference !CubanewsMar 16 21:22
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DaemonFCthe last vestiges of the BKL seem to be removed in this commitMar 16 21:24
DaemonFChttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=f74b9444192c60603020c61d7915b72893137edcMar 16 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA seizes UN funds for Cuba meant for AIDS and TB. http://is.gd/2Hg3wZ !CubanewsMar 16 21:31
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DaemonFCwonder if the UN is doing a bang up job on that just like they did with the Oil For Food programMar 16 21:36
DaemonFCMinceR, Coffee At Noon?Mar 16 21:36
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Red Hat is ... happy to share code, but it’s closing the door to the cut and paste school of Linux development." http://ur1.ca/3jla8Mar 16 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] meme of the week - Rebecca "Friday" Black. #BlackFriday! ur1.ca/3jld2 !memesMar 16 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk After spending a day figuring it out, it appears that addressing them via Twitter is the most likely way to get a resultMar 16 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] trickled*Mar 16 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I always try to post from Identica even when speaking to people on Twitter because every one of my dents is preserved here (so far)Mar 16 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Multi-GPU PRIME & GPU Hot-Switching Proposal: Last week a student developer from Belgium had proposed an OpenGL ... http://bit.ly/gRrjf6Mar 16 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The advice of what to try so far has come from Identicats @marjoleink @threethirty and @lnxwalt280Mar 16 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What is super frustrating is that I could have uploaded !Inconstant Moon *last night* but for the @qindows font !copyright concern. :(Mar 16 21:57
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DaemonFCI'm in Firmware HellMar 16 22:03
DaemonFCa whole 5 kilobytes of the underworldMar 16 22:03
DaemonFCmade manifest by RealtekMar 16 22:03
DaemonFCok, curse, swear, check checkMar 16 22:12
DaemonFCreboot :)Mar 16 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I !amreading Carl Hiaasen's "Star Island" and am a little disappointed. Maybe it's just me? Or has Carl fallen into formula?Mar 16 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan two way twitter bridge? Really? awesome!Mar 16 22:22
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DaemonFCvmware now has a driver for the direct rending manager in stagingMar 16 22:29
DaemonFCcool :)Mar 16 22:29
DaemonFC*rendering evenMar 16 22:31
cubezzz-Mar 16 22:38
DaemonFCcubezzz, Go away before I turn you into a Windows XP VHDMar 16 22:39
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] My review of Stephen T. Asma's /Why I Am A Buddhist/ http://ur1.ca/3jm09 #sex_math_programmingMar 16 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Do you use !Identica as your main or only micro blogging?Mar 16 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Fukushima nuclear plant owner falsified inspection records http://is.gd/CO9ccg !wlMar 16 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Another step towards governance reform at OSI (and Fogel, Jagielski and Godwin join the Board): http://wmk.me/fFAJf9Mar 16 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Human Rights Watch: US must explain treatment of Manning http://is.gd/fwWIVr !wlMar 16 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Is This The Girl That Hacked HBGary? http://ur1.ca/3jmb8Mar 16 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://is.gd/GcEZW2 !wlMar 16 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] yesterday's !Mandriva > !Mageia migration,from repositories (not DVD) was a success, with few problems during the process. System working OKMar 16 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robsanchezjr/@robsanchezjr] ♺ @wikileaks: "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://ur1.ca/3jmk8 !wikileaksMar 16 23:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Open Source Initiative announces governance and purpose changes. http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/03/osi-landmark/index.htmMar 16 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi: Ok good :), but what problems did you get? You mean the day before yesterday it's Thursday in both of our time zones! #mageiaMar 16 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @lohang: ♺ @wikileaks: "If the US doesn't want to be embarrassed, it should stop doing embarrassing things" http://is.gd/GcEZW2Mar 16 23:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi: Ok good :), but what problems did you get? You mean the day before yesterday it's Thursday in both of our time zones! !mageiaMar 16 23:57
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DaemonFCI disabled all the really old shitMar 16 00:00
Ender2070the music is based on Severed FifthMar 16 00:00
DaemonFCserial, parallel, and ISA drivers and suchMar 16 00:00
DaemonFCthose cause build failures with GCC 4.6Mar 16 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Faulty Towers were made now, there would be an episode called "Don't mention Saudi Arabia" #politics #BritishpoliticiansboughtandpaidforMar 16 00:01
DaemonFCwhy risk build failures over hardware that hasn't shipped on a consumer PC in 15 years?Mar 16 00:01
DaemonFCapparently Ubuntu doesn't careMar 16 00:01
DaemonFCEnder2070, You mean jono 's "My project is too special for Ubuntu" project?Mar 16 00:02
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 00:02
DaemonFCyou'd think Ubuntu's community manager wouldn't air the dirty laundryMar 16 00:03
_Goblinhey,,,,whats with the Ubuntu negativity....its a distro, its a choice.....its not being forced on anyone and if you look at distro watches stats, people do (if they wish) look beyond Ubuntu.Mar 16 00:05
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_Goblinpersonally I don't think there is a distro which has done more to bring attention and interest to Linux.Mar 16 00:06
_GoblinUbuntu gets (in my book) "Mainstream attention"Mar 16 00:06
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_Goblinergo so does Linux....and thats a good thingMar 16 00:06
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Ender2070you mean Redhat hasn't?Mar 16 00:11
DaemonFCUbuntu is mostly Red Hat's work with different logosMar 16 00:13
Ender2070Even if its not directly Redhat's workMar 16 00:13
Ender2070they fund a lot of projects that aren't RedhatMar 16 00:13
DaemonFCespecially all this fancy new Radeon support B-)Mar 16 00:13
_GoblinThe name Ubuntu, I believe has had far more impact on the "average PC user"Mar 16 00:14
Ender2070Gnome has received a lot more funding from Redhat than CanonicalMar 16 00:14
DaemonFCthat's like saying Apple is responsible for the MP3 playerMar 16 00:14
_Goblinsay Red Hat to the IT uninterested and I think you get a more puzzled look than if you say "Ubuntu" when talking to the average userMar 16 00:14
DaemonFCor Microsoft is responsible for the PCMar 16 00:14
Ender2070Only because they are the current #1 _GoblinMar 16 00:14
Ender2070before Ubuntu it was Fedora as #1Mar 16 00:14
DaemonFCand no statistics have shown that there are more users of Linux due to UbuntuMar 16 00:15
_Goblinbut even then, I don't remember Fedora getting talked about on the BBC....thats the clincher, when it hits mainstream TV, thats when the uninterested get to know the nameMar 16 00:15
DaemonFCthe numbers have stayed pretty flat from before Ubuntu even existedMar 16 00:15
DaemonFC*haven'tMar 16 00:15
Ender2070_Goblin thats where you're offMar 16 00:15
Ender2070_Goblin when they first went onto the stock market, huge media attentionMar 16 00:16
_Goblinreally? Maybe you could example BBC Click or otherwise EVER mentioning Fedora....even nowMar 16 00:16
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Ender2070how about the IPO goblinMar 16 00:16
_Goblinno sorry....Im talking about average users....the type that have a PC, use it and have no clue what Linux is.Mar 16 00:17
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v5erI8HhdcMar 16 00:17
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_Goblinthe facebook interested....Mar 16 00:17
_Goblinthe type BBC click was aimed at and the vast majority of the populasMar 16 00:17
Ender2070I read about Redhat in Toronto Computes back in 2000Mar 16 00:17
_Goblinwhats that a tech mag?Mar 16 00:18
cubezzzBBC talked about Amiga and ArchimedesMar 16 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] feeling compelled to try #OpenSuSE 11.4Mar 16 00:18
Ender2070its a free local newspaperMar 16 00:18
_Goblincubezzz: yep....Mar 16 00:18
cubezzznot sure if that was click, or beforeMar 16 00:18
Ender2070err it wasMar 16 00:18
cubezzzFred somebody?Mar 16 00:18
Ender2070its not in publication anymoreMar 16 00:18
Ender2070Ubuntu is nowhere near the first even for the non technicalMar 16 00:18
_Goblinwell then.....thats hardly mainstream penetration.......BBC click hits the entire UK (and world) BBC click for example is the program aimed at people who are in love with FacebookMar 16 00:18
_Goblinmaybe not, but it was the one most recognised.Mar 16 00:19
Ender2070maybe in the UKMar 16 00:19
_Goblinand thats exactly what I thank Canonical for....bringing the name Linux to the masses.Mar 16 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Unrest in the Middle East. We might be accused of double standards but that would unduly dignify us. http://is.gd/DrWv3z #democracyMar 16 00:19
Ender2070ughMar 16 00:19
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Ender2070they didntMar 16 00:19
Ender2070Redhat didMar 16 00:19
_Goblinso then why is Redhat not the household name like Ubuntu/Canonical is?Mar 16 00:20
Ender2070Ubuntu brings the 'Ubuntu' name to the massesMar 16 00:20
_Goblinvery trueMar 16 00:20
_Goblinand the specifics matter not...Mar 16 00:20
Ender2070Ubuntu is not a household nameMar 16 00:20
_GoblinUbuntu has brought itself into the spotlight, ergo linuxMar 16 00:20
_Goblinand maybe not, but out of all the distro's....I think Ubuntu is the most spoken about and the one most likely to be mentioned if you ask the question to a non-techie "Whats the name of a linux distro"Mar 16 00:21
cubezzzredhat is better known in the USAMar 16 00:21
cubezzzAcer people know about LinpusMar 16 00:22
cubezzzat least some doMar 16 00:22
_Goblinagain, I would dispute that Redhat has the more known name than Ubuntu......regardless of what you think of Ubuntu I think its fair to say (on Google hits alone with bloggers) that the world over is far more likely to know the word Ubuntu rather than RedhatMar 16 00:22
cubezzzand Linpus is derived from Fedora :)Mar 16 00:22
Ender2070you're completely wrong _GoblinMar 16 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I am so going to party these Girl Scout CookiesMar 16 00:23
Ender2070Redhat WAS that name until UbuntuMar 16 00:23
_GoblinIm sure in your mind I am...but until you can scan the minds of the planet and get me real stats we will just have to agree to differMar 16 00:23
Ender2070you can't do that eitherMar 16 00:23
_GoblinexactlyMar 16 00:23
_GoblinI have an opinion so do you.Mar 16 00:24
_Goblinwe agree to differMar 16 00:24
Ender2070i think their huge IPO news is bigger than a BBC showMar 16 00:24
_Goblinwell my dad is bigger than yours.Mar 16 00:24
_Goblinand UFP news is bigger than both....again, agree to differ,Mar 16 00:25
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_Goblinhi mate!Mar 16 00:25
twitterhelloMar 16 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interlude: Promoting Ideas, Not Companies http://ur1.ca/3j2pr thoughts on how to advance freedom and people's rightsMar 16 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Interlude: Promoting Ideas, Not Companies http://ur1.ca/3j2pr !techrights #freedomMar 16 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NHS doctor states the obvious about governments's #healthcare plans illness for profit companies will cherry pick patients. #savetheNHSMar 16 00:26
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twitterHere's a funny thing I saw a few minutes ago.  http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car?page=0%2C1Mar 16 00:26
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twitter->  Brian Herron, vice president of Drew Technologies, an Ann Arbor, Michigan, company that builds tools for automotive computer systems. "It's not like hacking Windows, where you find a vulnerability and go after it."Mar 16 00:27
Ender2070_Goblin - im just WELL aware that I was reading about Redhat in mainstream news before Ubuntu even existed (2004)Mar 16 00:27
_Goblintwitter: funnily enough I wrote a while ago about WIndows powered cars being hijacked by malwareMar 16 00:27
_GoblinEnder2070: but you are tech-interested...I am talking the vast majority of users...the mainstream....the majority....the ones who really couldn't care less about computing appart from using it as a toolMar 16 00:28
twitteryes, Microsoft has hijacked several automobile companies.  I think they want to keep that list quites.Mar 16 00:28
cubezzzugh, that sounds like a bad sci-fi movieMar 16 00:28
Ender2070_Goblin as long as you're defining then you'll be correctMar 16 00:28
twitterhere's Ford http://www.google.com/search?q=ford+microsoft+software&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8Mar 16 00:29
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_GoblinEnder2070: and the same for you....I was very clear from the beginning I was talking about the IT uninterested.Mar 16 00:29
twitterHere's BMW's infamous 7 series http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2002/mar02/03-04bmwpr.mspxMar 16 00:29
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_Goblinah found it....Mar 16 00:29
_Goblinhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/bing-and-gone-and-a-microsoft-carengine-yusuf-mehdi-conjures-up-a-disturbing-thought/Mar 16 00:29
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Ender2070_Goblin - the IT uninterested dont even know the difference between the internet and a browser, so they still dont know what you're talking aboutMar 16 00:30
twitterThe story I saw looked like Slashdot damage control. Mar 16 00:30
_GoblinEnder2070: But they know the name UbuntuMar 16 00:30
Ender2070they dontMar 16 00:30
_Goblinoh yes they doMar 16 00:30
Ender2070no they dontMar 16 00:31
twitterPoints to a study that fails to call out Windows or even mention the name of the vehicles all sorts of exploits were found on.Mar 16 00:31
Ender2070randomly interview 100 people and ask themMar 16 00:31
_Goblincome on everyone...get into the panto spiritMar 16 00:31
Ender2070i can't prove a negative so its up to youMar 16 00:31
_Goblinyes Ender...Mar 16 00:31
_GoblinI give my opinions as the result of three factorsMar 16 00:31
_Goblin1. Non tech interested folk asking me about Ubuntu.Mar 16 00:32
twitterhmmm, prove Ubuntu brand recognition Mar 16 00:32
Ender2070actually the tech uninterested will probably ask you if Ubuntu is an ipad appMar 16 00:32
_Goblin2. BBC and national news coverage mentioning the name UbuntuMar 16 00:32
twitter"Linux" brand recognitionMar 16 00:32
cubezzzRedhat was in the DOJ caseMar 16 00:32
twittermost people have heard of these things but don't have much of a clueMar 16 00:32
_Goblin3. The volume of blogs and opinion found on google which show mainstream users commenting, praising a release from MS to UbuntuMar 16 00:32
cubezzzMicrosoft guys holding up the redhat box and saying "see we have competition"Mar 16 00:33
twitterespecially the MSCE types ...Mar 16 00:33
twitterno clueMar 16 00:33
cubezzzI think futureshop used to even sell boxed RedhatMar 16 00:33
_Goblinadd all those together and thats how I get to my opinion about Ubuntu.  Its not scientific, its not exact but its my opinion and how I formed it.Mar 16 00:33
Ender2070blogs and opinion = anecdotalMar 16 00:33
_Goblinso then that applies to your opinion too?Mar 16 00:34
Ender2070the canadian bookstore Chapters used to sell Redhat evenMar 16 00:34
Ender2070way backMar 16 00:34
Ender2070they dont even sell linux nowMar 16 00:34
twitterhttp://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+brand+recognition&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8Mar 16 00:34
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twitternot much useful pops upMar 16 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nice words "Education survives, whereas marketing is a moving target"Mar 16 00:34
Ender2070im sure all those people in wallstreet who pumped up Redhat's stock know all about linuxMar 16 00:35
schestowitzRed Hat has strong brands Mar 16 00:35
Ender2070i think im just going to email redhat and ask them when they were first in mainstream newsMar 16 00:35
schestowitzIn business, Linux=Red HatMar 16 00:35
_Goblintake a look at Waterstones....take a look at Amazon....books wise Ubuntu is pretty well covered their too.  There seems to be a rather big market for those wanting to learn Ubuntu related skills.....who do you think reads these books? People like the users here or maybe, just maybe Linux newbies who want to learn?  These are among the "mainstream" who have come over to Ubuntu.Mar 16 00:35
twitterwall street people know about gnu/linux for sureMar 16 00:35
Ender2070im sure they'll have a date before 2004Mar 16 00:35
schestowitzOutside business it's UbuntuMar 16 00:35
Ender2070im just going to ask redhatMar 16 00:36
_GoblinEnder2070: Infact I'd say ask some of the newer users here what brought them from Windows....Mar 16 00:36
Ender2070for a date earlier than 2004Mar 16 00:36
twitteroutside clue it's SELMar 16 00:36
Ender2070_Goblin you're talking about currentMar 16 00:37
Ender2070ubuntu is currently #1Mar 16 00:37
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Ender2070that can change just as much as it did for RedhatMar 16 00:37
_GoblinI would be talking 2008+Mar 16 00:37
Ender2070well 2008+ is a drop in the bucketMar 16 00:37
Ender2070Linux is how old now?Mar 16 00:37
cubezzzScientific Linux anyone? :)Mar 16 00:38
_Goblin,,,,,,,its ocean..........not for the tech uninterested thoughMar 16 00:38
cubezzzbased on.... wait for it...Mar 16 00:38
twitterhar har, older than netware?  http://www.opentechexchange.org/node/77Mar 16 00:38
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cubezzzanyways, Hurd is the Light :)Mar 16 00:39
schestowitzMeh. Brands...Mar 16 00:39
schestowitzI just did a blog post about itMar 16 00:39
schestowitzLet's talk about freedom(TM)Mar 16 00:39
_Goblinto be fair ender I'm not seeing this as an argument or debate....I have my view and you certainly have yours but for your own tech interested wise we cannot claim that the knowledge we hve in anyway translates to those who just dont care about the finer points of techMar 16 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 451 CAOS Theory » New !Linux landscape emerging http://ping.fm/X3yPyMar 16 00:39
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Ender2070_Goblin im going to ask redhat and they will have an answer for me that predates 2004Mar 16 00:40
Ender2070for mainstream newsMar 16 00:40
schestowitzLinuxndroidbuntu...Mar 16 00:40
twitterfreedom is the thing to pursue and promote Mar 16 00:40
_GoblinIm sure, but as many examples as Ubuntu has in the mainstream news....Mar 16 00:40
_Goblinthis is not about who was first.....this is about what people talk about nowMar 16 00:40
schestowitzUbuntu could be the next LinspireMar 16 00:40
Ender2070bah theres no point in discussing this with youMar 16 00:40
schestowitzWaste of time promoting their brandMar 16 00:40
cubezzza warmed over Debian :)Mar 16 00:40
_GoblinEnder2070: im sure.Mar 16 00:40
schestowitzTalk about why it's valuable for the userMar 16 00:41
Ender2070you keep twisting date periods aroundMar 16 00:41
cubezzznote the smilieMar 16 00:41
_GoblinEnder2070: no I don't go back and read.Mar 16 00:41
schestowitzNot "Banshee" and "GNOME"Mar 16 00:41
_GoblinEnder2070: I never said Ubuntu was firstMar 16 00:41
Ender207020:39] <_Goblin> Im sure, but as many examples as Ubuntu has in the mainstream news....Mar 16 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Lobbyists' voluntary register is 'riddled with errors' http://is.gd/m0jnsD #lobbyocracyMar 16 00:41
_GoblinEnder2070: Now...Mar 16 00:41
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twitterpart of the Microsoft freedom mitigation strategy, I presume, is to play favorites in a way that's harmful.  Promotion of non free distros, creation of civil wars, etc.Mar 16 00:41
_GoblinEnder2070: not firstMar 16 00:41
Ender2070yes nowMar 16 00:41
_Goblinand its now we are talking aboutMar 16 00:41
Ender2070well my whole point was that Redhat was the #1 before UbuntuMar 16 00:41
Ender2070even for non techsMar 16 00:41
_Goblinand I never argued.......Mar 16 00:41
schestowitzIt still is #1Mar 16 00:41
_Goblinthat was not the point.Mar 16 00:42
Ender2070if anyone recommended linux before 2004, people would find Redhat/FedoraMar 16 00:42
schestowitzOh, for non-techs too....? Not sure...Mar 16 00:42
twitteror debianMar 16 00:42
schestowitzFedora?Mar 16 00:42
_Goblinand how many linux users pre 2004 compared to NOW.Mar 16 00:42
schestowitzWhen did it start? Only like 2004, no?Mar 16 00:42
Ender2070doesnt matterMar 16 00:42
cubezzzno one knows how many Linux users there are reallyMar 16 00:42
Ender2070before ubuntu, people would say RedhatMar 16 00:42
Ender2070or Debian if it went that farMar 16 00:43
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schestowitzcubezzz: what does Linux user *mean*Mar 16 00:43
cubezzzdo ereaders count? do HDTVs count?Mar 16 00:43
cubezzzyeah exactlyMar 16 00:43
schestowitzDual/fast boot, Linux, TomTomMar 16 00:43
_GoblinEnder2070: no...not until the BBC considers running articles on it....then it obviously is more in the mainstream...The bbc wouldn't mention it if the casual user knew nothing about it.Mar 16 00:43
schestowitzLinux is a kernelMar 16 00:43
Ender2070the BBC can lick my nutsMar 16 00:43
schestowitzLEt's ask this differentlyMar 16 00:43
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schestowitzHow many people control the devices/PC they own?Mar 16 00:43
schestowitzEven if it runs BSDs/...Mar 16 00:43
_GoblinEnder2070: I don't particularly care for the BBC but I would consider that a rather harsh punishmentMar 16 00:43
cubezzzhmmm, not that many i'd sayMar 16 00:43
schestowitzMany Linux devices offer no freedomMar 16 00:43
schestowitzTomTom for exampleMar 16 00:44
twitterDebian has enjoyed the benefits of freedom for a long time.  The freedom to share gave Debian a repository presence on every major university that translated into easy installation and updates.  Fedora copied that model.Mar 16 00:44
DaemonFCOhhh, free shit!Mar 16 00:44
twitterDebian's early edge is why so many distros are based on Debian today.Mar 16 00:44
DaemonFClet's grab it, change it, and try to hide that we use it!Mar 16 00:44
schestowitzDaemonFC: language...Mar 16 00:44
_Goblinschestowitz: or better yet, ask the question "How many people want to control the devices they own"Mar 16 00:44
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schestowitz_Goblin: yesMar 16 00:44
Ender2070this is the type of argument where whenever I bring up a point that makes me win it, you change the rules of the argument to make it seem like you meant something elseMar 16 00:44
DaemonFChow many of those devices are there?Mar 16 00:44
Ender2070its going nowhereMar 16 00:44
schestowitzbecause we need to educate themMar 16 00:44
DaemonFCthey use Linux but try to bury it Mar 16 00:45
Ender2070ill just find out from Redhat all I need to knowMar 16 00:45
schestowitzTo raise the numbers of people who understand what DRM is and why they want to avoid itMar 16 00:45
cubezzzhow many run an open bios? :)Mar 16 00:45
cubezzzeven less peopleMar 16 00:45
_GoblinEnder2070: leave it now.  People can go back and read, I havent changed anythingMar 16 00:45
schestowitzTHen they'll naturally turn to free softare, not just because it's more powerfulMar 16 00:45
twitterThe digital restrictions conversation is going quite well, actually.  People do understand that one even if they don't understand Linux brands.Mar 16 00:45
_Goblinschestowitz: I think the big shame is that people have been conditioned not to be able to change things so they think no control = the normMar 16 00:46
scientesI just dismatled and recycled 12 hard drives todayMar 16 00:46
schestowitzRMS does a number on cell phones nowMar 16 00:46
schestowitzPower to himMar 16 00:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, They try to fork it to use in that device and do all sorts of nasty hacks to make it work, because they don't plan to support it long anywayMar 16 00:46
schestowitzAbout time he does to it what he did to Fog ComputingMar 16 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Interesting new feature for the 2.6.39 kernel, O_PATH descriptors - http://is.gd/kgDaWLMar 16 00:46
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scientesalluminum, copper, plastic, steel, plasticMar 16 00:46
DaemonFCthose black friday android devicesMar 16 00:46
schestowitzHe has not ben vocal enough regarding mobile phonesMar 16 00:46
schestowitz!google stallman cell phonesMar 16 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanMar 16 00:46
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.htmlMar 16 00:46
_Goblinschestowitz: puts me in mind of the TV series "The Tripods" where the desire to question and be creative was removed.Mar 16 00:46
cubezzzsounds like War of the Worlds Mar 16 00:47
twitterCell phones are a difficult battle because the telco is a gatekeeper. Mar 16 00:47
_Goblincubezzz: very much similarMar 16 00:47
schestowitzIt's a social thing nowMar 16 00:47
_Goblincubezzz: excellent seriesMar 16 00:47
Ender2070bam!Mar 16 00:47
schestowitzLike Facek00kMar 16 00:47
Ender2070RMS is the kingMar 16 00:47
schestowitzPeople think they need a phone nanny in order to have a social lifeMar 16 00:47
Ender2070its stuff like this where I realize RMS is being misled, not misleading othersMar 16 00:47
cubezzzStallman didn't like Kindle eitherMar 16 00:47
DaemonFChttp://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2011/03/rms-220x152.jpgMar 16 00:47
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cubezzzthe number of things he likes is quite few :)Mar 16 00:47
Ender2070when he comes out with anti big brother stuffMar 16 00:47
Ender2070http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html?hpg1=bnMar 16 00:48
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DaemonFCGrigori Rasputin prefers the rich aroma of Folgers CrystalsMar 16 00:48
twitterPeople should demand their freedom on them but are willing to sacrifice for the convenience of persistent communications.  Open Spectrum will solve the problem.Mar 16 00:48
DaemonFCB-)Mar 16 00:48
schestowitzThe society is trained to encourage such a conversation too -- one where they demand mobile phone numbers for "keeping inside the loop"; same with Facevk00kMar 16 00:48
Ender2070I'd extend thatMar 16 00:48
_Goblincubezzz: I can't stand ebook readers for no other reason than I like the feel of a real book and could never get used to reading something for a long period of time with einkMar 16 00:48
cubezzzeven Commodore had proprietary firmware thoughMar 16 00:48
_Goblinand damn fine it was too!Mar 16 00:48
Ender2070Cell phones, facebook, and Bell Canada are Stalin's dreamMar 16 00:48
cubezzzabout 4 million amigas were madeMar 16 00:48
schestowitzBhell CanadaMar 16 00:49
cubezzzmaybe close to 5 millionMar 16 00:49
_GoblinI don't think proprietary is bad by nature, its the companies behaviour behind that proprietary which can be harmfullMar 16 00:49
schestowitzHell is frozen :-)Mar 16 00:49
cubezzz_Goblin, I'd still go with the 500Mar 16 00:49
DaemonFCThe CIA is interested in learning where RMS buys his TwinkiesMar 16 00:49
twitterI'd like to have an Android with free software but I can't trust the phone company not to bork it.Mar 16 00:49
cubezzza hackers machine...Mar 16 00:49
DaemonFCthat's why he can't carry a cell phoneMar 16 00:49
_Goblincubezzz: and I'd agree if only for kick1.3Mar 16 00:49
scientesbut propritary software encourages and essentially creates that sort of behavior, _Goblin  Mar 16 00:50
cubezzzI'll get a 3000/4000 somedayMar 16 00:50
schestowitz_Goblin: combine corporate greed with proprietary control and you always get the same...Mar 16 00:50
cubezzzopen firmware is a toughieMar 16 00:50
schestowitzThey have to elevate profit through controlMar 16 00:50
scientesespecially when the proprietary software is some sort of platformMar 16 00:50
schestowitzSecrecy in code grants them the possibilitiesMar 16 00:50
_Goblinscientes: maybe true......but then thats a human flaw not one of the nature of proprietary itselfMar 16 00:50
twitterownership of spectrum gives them the control they need and this is a crime.Mar 16 00:51
Ender2070[20:48] <schestowitz> Hell is frozen :-)Mar 16 00:51
_GoblinI certainly think the proprietary model is still relevant for certain industries today....Mar 16 00:51
twitterIf the spectrum were free, there would be zero demand for non free software.Mar 16 00:51
Ender2070it only seems that wayMar 16 00:51
Ender2070throttling is in effectMar 16 00:51
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cubezzzyes, but one should have the choice....Mar 16 00:52
schestowitz!google Russian Today YouTube JapanMar 16 00:52
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twitterNon free software owners have consistently used pinch points to promote themselves. Mar 16 00:52
cubezzzeven it's just a blank computerMar 16 00:52
_Goblintwitter: but then it brings problems in itself.......I would agree for about 90% of software, however the gaming industry I think it a world of its ownMar 16 00:52
cubezzzI want the option of no OSMar 16 00:52
Ender2070[20:51] <cubezzz> even it's just a blank computerMar 16 00:52
Ender2070you can get thoseMar 16 00:52
schestowitzEnder2070: ^ Hell is having a crack at itMar 16 00:52
abeNd-orgthe dell servers i order have an option of no osMar 16 00:52
Ender2070you can even - assemble oneMar 16 00:53
abeNd-orgthe optiplex desktops usually dont though, at best i have seen is freedosMar 16 00:53
schestowitzcubezzz: how dare you?Mar 16 00:53
schestowitzMachine with choice is called "naked"Mar 16 00:53
twitterbare naked Mar 16 00:53
Ender2070I would expect everyone in this channel would be smart enough to put together a PCMar 16 00:53
cubezzzI even bought an no OS amiga...Mar 16 00:53
cubezzzthe one time I didn't want no OS :)Mar 16 00:53
schestowitzIt's like saying that a car with choice of radio is "naked"Mar 16 00:53
twitteror a car without a non free computer is nakedMar 16 00:54
cubezzzI've seen cars with no radioMar 16 00:54
schestowitzGah-tner promoted this term I thinkMar 16 00:54
Ender2070except DaemonFCMar 16 00:54
cubezzznot many I admitMar 16 00:54
schestowitzFarting in the Linux soup, as usuaulMar 16 00:54
schestowitzThe only ones enjoying the smell are Blows and BallmerMar 16 00:54
abeNd-orgtime is my big thing, thats why im looking at just buying a dell poweredge 110 & loading it with 16gb ram from crucial, and really, for the price, i dont think i could build a vmware/hyperv/xen test  box for that price anywaysMar 16 00:55
cubezzzI have an optiplexMar 16 00:55
cubezzzit runs FreeBSDMar 16 00:55
schestowitzBlows treat the computer like it's an appliance and choices are not allowed, except Apple's choicesMar 16 00:55
twitterany way, the only thing I could imagine for this is Windows Media ->  But their most interesting attack focused on the car stereo. By adding extra code to a digital music file, they were able to turn a song burned to CD into a Trojan horse. When played on the car's stereo, this song could alter the firmware of the car's stereo system, giving attackers an entry point to change other components on the car. Mar 16 00:55
abeNd-orgthat wont be far offMar 16 00:55
DaemonFCmy car has no radio, but that's due to electrical problemsMar 16 00:55
DaemonFCI just break the law and listen to my PMP insteadMar 16 00:56
cubezzztwitter, that would make a good sci-fi movieMar 16 00:56
abeNd-orgi mean sony's drm'ed disks hosed up macs back in the dayMar 16 00:56
Ender2070[20:50] <_Goblin> I certainly think the proprietary model is still relevant for certain industries today....Mar 16 00:56
cubezzzwell, soon enough people will want freedomMar 16 00:56
Ender2070I agreeMar 16 00:56
twitterFlash mixes execute and media but I don't know of any vehicles that play flash.  I do know that Baller pushed WMA onto auto makers. Mar 16 00:56
cubezzzthe walls are closing in...Mar 16 00:56
Ender2070the video game one is a good one to think aboutMar 16 00:56
twitterreality is better than a movie cubezzzMar 16 00:57
abeNd-orgpeople wont revolt until the food supply is harder to access, keep people fat dumb & happy, they will do whatever you want, or let you do whatever you want without oppositionMar 16 00:57
cubezzzI know I don't want no wincar that's for sure :)Mar 16 00:57
Ender2070I'm hoping to get my hands on a Nintendo 3DS on March 27thMar 16 00:57
cubezzzhmmmMar 16 00:57
twitterWindows car, es una No VaMar 16 00:57
schestowitzTHe new Toyota car had 'WMA' written on the radioMar 16 00:58
_GoblinEnder2070: I think one of the issues of gaming is the question "Can you really crowd source a story driven gaming title?"Mar 16 00:58
twitterbad punMar 16 00:58
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with schestowitz that a little exorcism wouldn't fix, maybe some homeopathic medicine and some herbal colonics, Pat Robertsons Age Defying Protein Pancakes? Mayebe?Mar 16 00:58
abeNd-orggood luck, ms has thier hands into just about every car manufacture out thereMar 16 00:58
cubezzzjust imagine Pinto's with Windoze...Mar 16 00:58
schestowitzIF cars worked like WMA DRM...Mar 16 00:58
schestowitztwitter: some have Intel's LinuxMar 16 00:59
schestowitzOr *Will* haveMar 16 00:59
Ender2070_Goblin - my mind exploded at the idea of trying to clone world of warcraftMar 16 00:59
cubezzzschestowitz. I suppose people have linux cars tooMar 16 00:59
schestowitzThere's Ford Sink [sic]Mar 16 00:59
cubezzzeven if they are hacking themMar 16 00:59
twittergood luck performing an exorcism on a non free automobile computer .... Toyota has WMV ... wonder how deep M$ dug into their computing system.  I suspected as much when Toyota had their braking problems. Mar 16 00:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, Windows Media DRM.....When they aren't busy shutting down the relicensing servers and telling you stay with Windows XP, Windows Media Player will happily lose all your licenses for you randomlyMar 16 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: #juliuscaesargovernment RT @RegulusdeLeo @TonyClement_MP Yond' Ignatieff has a lean and hungry look.Mar 16 00:59
Ender2070_Goblin - plus the constant maintanence for protection against cheating playersMar 16 01:00
_GoblinEnder2070: don't get me wrong there is some very good FOSS projects like WOW (Eternal Lands) but they for me don't have the same punch because they are always in a state of "work in progress"......by the time they are in final ver, I will have played the game to deathMar 16 01:00
DaemonFC"Ok look, 300 dead files, ho hum. So how about that Vista?"Mar 16 01:00
Ender2070thats also a valid pointMar 16 01:00
_GoblinEnder2070: and yes, cheating is an issue.....as is countless forks and watered down versions that remain half completed because someone else thinks they can do a better vers.Mar 16 01:01
cubezzzI wonder how bad it will get with doze 8Mar 16 01:01
Ender2070Nintendo will have put out two pokemon games a year, while most FOSS ames take a few years to get working as wellMar 16 01:01
twitterI'm afraid that WMA is a common music system corruption.  Microsoft sold them on digital restrictions and promised to break people who did not participate.  This is a problem going back to the early 2000's and Microsoft was called to account at least once in court. Mar 16 01:01
_GoblinEnder2070: in the utils market FOSS works very well....gaming, Ive never been convinced.Mar 16 01:01
Ender2070I use FOSS for everything except gaming pretty muchMar 16 01:01
twitterPS3 is not a custom Linux?Mar 16 01:01
_Goblincubezzz: its MS the sky is the limit (or allegedly for 8 the cloud)Mar 16 01:02
Ender2070PS3 is not a custom linuxMar 16 01:02
abeNd-orgno, ps3 in fact killed "otherOS" which was the cause of the "hacking" of lateMar 16 01:02
Ender2070it had a custom linuxMar 16 01:02
cubezzzthe hackers usually winMar 16 01:02
twitteryeah but what runs PS3?Mar 16 01:02
_Goblin"Other OS" was the feature....Mar 16 01:02
Ender2070they did it so they could sell it as a pc and not pay duties for the dvdMar 16 01:02
_Goblindamn good idea.Mar 16 01:02
twitterI'm aware of the other OS.  I don't know what Sony used for themselves. Mar 16 01:02
_GoblinahMar 16 01:03
schestowitztwitter: a colleague told me they had used linux in ps2Mar 16 01:03
cubezzzjust get the proto-one without restrictions :)Mar 16 01:03
_Goblinsorry....missed your other postMar 16 01:03
schestowitzBut I could never confirm]Mar 16 01:03
Ender2070now they have to pay duties and still have people steal games from themMar 16 01:03
schestowitzSCOny puts a lot of Linux in TVsMar 16 01:03
twitterYou know, the OS they developed with IBM for cell.... Mar 16 01:03
abeNd-orgsony killed otherOS, which was the problem, never ever made it an option on the slim modelMar 16 01:03
_Goblinso hopefully Linux can appear back on the PS3....Mar 16 01:03
schestowitzBit it doesn't offer freedom to the viewerMar 16 01:03
schestowitzThey comply by publishing source modsMar 16 01:03
Ender2070afaik they already did hack the ps3Mar 16 01:03
abeNd-org_Goblin: it will not, at least not by Sony's permissionMar 16 01:03
_Goblinto be fair though, Linux on PS3 was hardly a speed demon....Mar 16 01:04
abeNd-orgyea, otheros taken away was the reasonMar 16 01:04
Ender2070didnt they have a hack for the ps3 controller to mod itMar 16 01:04
_Goblinit was damn handy thoughMar 16 01:04
DaemonFCMy grandmother said all schizophrenics are demon possessed. I asked her how come some demons seem to go away once the person takes anti-psychotic medication.Mar 16 01:04
cubezzzschestowitz, I've been looking into Linux TV hackingMar 16 01:04
DaemonFCshe growled at meMar 16 01:04
cubezzzso far I've seen very littleMar 16 01:04
Ender2070you could flash the ps3 controller with a firmware which bypassed the protection and modded itMar 16 01:04
twitterbbl, it's time for me to do some actual work.Mar 16 01:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: watched too many filsmsMar 16 01:04
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schestowitzDaemons are made by menMar 16 01:04
_Goblintalking of which....Mar 16 01:04
_Goblinanyone seen Battle:LA?Mar 16 01:05
DaemonFCshe said I'm not bipolar, I'm possessedMar 16 01:05
schestowitzAnd promotes in films and stupid scriptures, then people justify their existenceMar 16 01:05
DaemonFCright....Mar 16 01:05
schestowitzBy the same logic I could argue that hobbits existMar 16 01:05
_Goblintrolls doMar 16 01:05
abeNd-org_Goblin: not yet, id like to see itMar 16 01:05
Ender2070lolMar 16 01:05
schestowitzCause look... the Harry Potter or LOTR films have em in thereMar 16 01:05
Ender2070Hobbits existMar 16 01:05
Ender2070I saw one at the mallMar 16 01:05
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_GoblinabeNd-org: it looks quite good......I may venture out to the cinemaMar 16 01:06
schestowitzEnder2070: LOLMar 16 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya ,Britain and France think they can lead beating up the unpopular kid and the big boys are rightly not interested. #EntentetwatsMar 16 01:06
schestowitzD Rockefeller goes to the mall on his electric chair?Mar 16 01:06
Ender2070oh LOL that reminds meMar 16 01:06
Ender2070You know Exxon-mobilMar 16 01:07
schestowitzYeahMar 16 01:07
Ender2070its a Rockefellar founded companyMar 16 01:07
Ender2070the same bunch who fund GreenpeaceMar 16 01:07
schestowitzStandard Oil, standazrd scamMar 16 01:07
schestowitzGates invests in ExxonMar 16 01:07
schestowitz!google gates exxon oilMar 16 01:07
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_Goblinright smoke again.....benzine, cyanide, tar.......time for my self polutionMar 16 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Libya ,Britain and France think they can lead beating up the unpopular kid and the big boys are rightly not interested.Mar 16 01:08
DaemonFCschestowitz, You're going to burn in the agonizing torment of hellfire for all eternity. Jesus loves you, peace be with you.Mar 16 01:08
schestowitzAwww :-)Mar 16 01:08
Ender2070so Exxon-mobil has funding links to GreenpeaceMar 16 01:08
schestowitzHe loves me :-)Mar 16 01:08
schestowitzSoros?Mar 16 01:08
Ender2070RockefellarMar 16 01:09
schestowitzI'd hard of thatMar 16 01:09
schestowitz*heardMar 16 01:09
Ender2070http://activistcash.com/foundation.cfm?did=168Mar 16 01:10
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sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/conversation/66259732Mar 16 01:10
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schestowitzSo maybe they just leave him aloneMar 16 01:11
Ender2070http://activistcash.com/biography.cfm/b/1424-laurance-rockefellerMar 16 01:11
schestowitzGreenpeace protests a lot against nuclear energyMar 16 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Laurance Rockefeller Biography .::. Size~: 9.7 KBMar 16 01:11
schestowitzNot much against oilMar 16 01:11
sebsebsebyeah this is so @mageia ^ and a load of other people, uh Twitter :(Mar 16 01:11
Ender2070well who competes against oilMar 16 01:11
Ender2070nuclear energyMar 16 01:11
DaemonFCIntelligent Design... Must be why the recreational facilities are right next door to the waste treatment plant. -Robin WilliamsMar 16 01:11
DaemonFCI lol'dMar 16 01:11
sebsebseboh and @mageia is used by more than one person it seemsMar 16 01:11
sebsebsebindeed at people using identica as a dumping ground for Twitter messagesMar 16 01:11
schestowitzopposite, no?Mar 16 01:12
Ender2070[21:11] <sebsebseb> indeed at people using identica as a dumping ground for Twitter messagesMar 16 01:12
Ender2070do you want us to use identica or not?Mar 16 01:12
sebsebsebEnder2070: they are two differnet sitesMar 16 01:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, I use Kubuntu btw, but not without gutting it and rebuilding a few thingsMar 16 01:12
DaemonFCkernel, Mesa, XMar 16 01:12
DaemonFC:)Mar 16 01:13
sebsebsebEnder2070: why are people so lazy, why can't they send a message to both sites, yep for each site?Mar 16 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFFector for Sunshine Week is now online! https://w2.eff.org/effector/ #FOIAMar 16 01:13
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Ender2070sebsebseb - well im not giving up twitter to post on identicaMar 16 01:13
sebsebsebEnder2070: well Twitter don't want people to make new 3rd party clients I readMar 16 01:13
sebsebsebEnder2070: and their you are supporting them heh hehMar 16 01:13
Ender2070so?Mar 16 01:13
sebsebsebso much for Tech Twitter ightsMar 16 01:13
Ender2070theres more people to talk toMar 16 01:13
sebsebsebrightsMar 16 01:13
sebsebsebEnder2070: Twitter is propritary as well and commerical and al that, and there you are supporting itMar 16 01:13
DaemonFCanyone who has ever tried to maintain their own kernel packages on an RPM distro knows why I use *bunbu or Debian for thatMar 16 01:14
Ender2070what did you eat for breakfastMar 16 01:14
sebsebseband Twitter is like Facebook, but not as bad, used by the main streame,  used by people who don't really care about computers mainlyMar 16 01:14
sebsebsebEnder2070: also something I notice is it's like @user  some Twitter account, and people may have an account on identica, but it remains blank when it comes to dents,  so I guess basicaly they registered it, but only for the name, well that sucksMar 16 01:14
sebsebsebEnder2070: and sometimes mesages come in from Twitter so only to a tag, that should really go to a identica group, yep @mageia messages for exampleMar 16 01:16
sebsebseband uhMar 16 01:16
sebsebseboh and someone else has this name on thereMar 16 01:16
Ender2070twitter doesn't force me to license my posts under the ccMar 16 01:16
schestowitzFair useMar 16 01:17
sebsebsebuh I don't know about identica and cc or whatever, butMar 16 01:17
sebsebsebuhmmMar 16 01:17
schestowitzToo short for strong copyrights anywayMar 16 01:17
sebsebsebthat's the idea of identica as wellMar 16 01:17
schestowitzgnMar 16 01:17
sebsebsebyou do a dentMar 16 01:17
sebsebsebother people are meant to be able to re dent it if they want toMar 16 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: @CopyrightCanada You're astroturfer cause you refuse to disclose identity. Legit participants like @jkdegen aren't #C32Mar 16 01:18
sebsebseband it's public as wellMar 16 01:18
Ender2070theres still fair useMar 16 01:18
Ender2070people retweet without copyright issues all the timeMar 16 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JulianFantino: Fantino addressing Ajax residents http://yfrog.com/h8ailebj - what with? Baton? Handcuffs? Taser? Pepper Spray?Mar 16 01:19
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Ender2070i doubt commercial interests will be investing in identica, they'd be ccing all their slogansMar 16 01:20
Ender2070LOLMar 16 01:20
Ender2070that would be hiliariousMar 16 01:20
Ender2070mcdonalds accidently gives away 'I'm lovin it"Mar 16 01:20
_GoblinSort of off topic ish.....Mar 16 01:21
sebsebsebEnder2070: that's the other thingMar 16 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Spreading The Word On !Polyamory, One Class At A Time - My friend Michaela is awesome (and not even !poly) http://redd.it/g4sw4 !sexpos !sexMar 16 01:21
sebsebsebEnder2070: Twitter has the companies on it now uhMar 16 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spreading The Word On Polyamory, One Class At A Time - My friend Michaela is awesome (not even poly)! via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.71 KBMar 16 01:21
sebsebsebcomapnies uhMar 16 01:21
sebsebsebEnder2070: companies so they can have their retard followers on Twitter heh hehMar 16 01:21
Ender2070twitter has money going into it yesMar 16 01:21
_GoblinI am surprised Foursquare has apparently seemed to fight off the facebook onslaught.....Im surprised.Mar 16 01:21
Ender2070theres celebrities as wellMar 16 01:21
Ender2070famous peopleMar 16 01:21
Ender2070ask Corey Doctrow why he isn't posting on IdenticaMar 16 01:22
sebsebsebEnder2070: yeah and Twitter so people can think they are something, becasue they are following someone famious LOLMar 16 01:22
_Goblinwho's Corey Doctrow?Mar 16 01:22
sebsebsebEnder2070: I don't know who that is, but probably, because most identica users woudn't care about him?Mar 16 01:22
Ender2070ROFLMar 16 01:22
sebsebsebif famous want to be on the site, with many stupid people on itMar 16 01:22
sebsebseband well that's Twitter not IdenticaMar 16 01:22
Ender2070probably the most famous CC authorMar 16 01:22
sebsebseband FacebookMar 16 01:23
abeNd-orgi wish there was a good book social website, shelfari is ok, but not greatMar 16 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @GeorgeTakei In this crisis, we are all Japanese. Please watch and RT this message. Thank you. http://ow.ly/4fhpOMar 16 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: I just got a Google alert pointing me at the NYT best-sellers list. I am now all sniffly.Mar 16 01:23
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sebsebsebEnder2070: what's CC? :dMar 16 01:23
Ender2070creative commonsMar 16 01:23
sebsebsebanyway that's what makes Identica so greatMar 16 01:23
sebsebsebit's mainly Linux usersMar 16 01:23
Ender2070http://craphound.com/Mar 16 01:23
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sebsebsebhow awesome is that :)Mar 16 01:23
sebsebsebI mean I guess most of us arent' exaclty the retarded average consumer for a startMar 16 01:23
sebsebsebyou know those who like Facebook and/or Twitter loads and some Myspace stil even, and uhMar 16 01:24
sebsebseband that use Windows as well for most of themMar 16 01:24
sebsebseband if not Windows, yep UbuntuMar 16 01:24
Ender2070not all of my audience is Linux usersMar 16 01:24
sebsebseband if not MacMar 16 01:24
sebsebsebthe mainstraeme is stupid when it comes to most stuff, it realy isMar 16 01:24
_Goblinnot all of my audience as users at allMar 16 01:24
abeNd-orgive never actually used 4square, never saw the point of telling the world im away from the house or them to please rob meMar 16 01:24
sebsebsebpeople in generalMar 16 01:24
Ender2070my audience are linux users and people who have tin foil in their wardrobeMar 16 01:24
_GoblinabeNd-org: what? are you mad? you are missing out on promotional offers....you can get a free burger whilst your house gets turned overMar 16 01:25
sebsebsebEnder2070: also most softwarea nd such that is main stream, sucks reallyMar 16 01:26
_Goblinyou can be mayor of a locality.....in the same way you get to become a mayor in real life.......bending the system.Mar 16 01:26
abeNd-org_Goblin:  lol Mar 16 01:26
sebsebsebEnder2070:  and a lot of popular sites suck really in some way or the other,  I mean ilke Facebook and Twitter for exampleMar 16 01:26
_GoblinI love Facebook, a one stop shop for all the people I really don't want to speak withMar 16 01:27
_Goblinat least I know where to avoidMar 16 01:27
abeNd-orgyea, i totally ignored my highschool classmatesMar 16 01:27
sebsebsebanyway I think a lot of people are lazy when it comes to  identica and twitter like I said earlier, they are similar sites, but also two completly differnet sites, so dont' most people treat them as that,  even if that means sending the same message,  twice as in to each site?Mar 16 01:28
_Goblinand because its only facebook they infect, I have no fear of them popping up elsewhereMar 16 01:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: I probaby look liike a loser on it or somethingMar 16 01:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: on FacebookMar 16 01:28
sebsebsebno photo, and harldy ever any messages on my profile and all thatMar 16 01:28
sebsebseb,but oh wellMar 16 01:28
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im sure you wouldn't....the losers are already on itMar 16 01:28
sebsebseb,but whateverMar 16 01:28
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfwA0FhMwtgMar 16 01:29
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sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca that's where it's at for me now, and of course IRC stillMar 16 01:29
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Ender2070Roy should do a web show (video)Mar 16 01:29
_Goblinits a good example of how damaging facebook etc are......apparently how many "friends" you have on it dictates how good a person you are.Mar 16 01:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: the average consumer likes Facebook, a lot of them would play stupid Facebook games like farmville evneMar 16 01:29
Ender2070copy the infowars format of screaming at people who watch the show about Microsoft and Black helicoptersMar 16 01:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah indeed to what you just saidMar 16 01:30
_Goblin"Show them your pity, for they know not what they do"........Goblin 1:1Mar 16 01:30
_Goblingot a Bottom DVD on in the background....forgotten how funny that show wasMar 16 01:31
sebsebsebEnder2070: Which do you think would respect your privacy more and why, Twitter or identica?Mar 16 01:32
Ender2070what privacyMar 16 01:32
Ender2070im posting 140 char messagesMar 16 01:32
sebsebseb_Goblin: also some people about all they do on the computer is Facebook, how patheticMar 16 01:32
sebsebsebsome?  I mean loadsMar 16 01:32
_Goblinsebsebseb: many of these people are the same "trendy" ones who laughed at people who had computing as a hobby....now the same people are burried into their facebook lives playing farming games, quiz's and posting pictures of themselves drunk from the night before.....oh how the mighty have fallenMar 16 01:34
Ender2070what privacy thoughMar 16 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: 1st Wikileaks Billboard in LA funded by YOU! Now for the next one: http://www.epicstep.com/campaign/... http://bit.ly/gGknLrMar 16 01:34
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sebsebseb_Goblin: heh yeah good point I guess, oh such a bad thing to be a computer geek heh heh,  but now many of those are addicted to FacebookMar 16 01:35
sebsebsebyou called Facebook computing, which wellMar 16 01:35
sebsebsebok it's done on a computer, butMar 16 01:35
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfwA0FhMwtgMar 16 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Richard Stallman part 1 of 3 .::. Size~: 109.15 KBMar 16 01:35
Ender2070oopsMar 16 01:35
sebsebsebit doesn't end to educate people about computersMar 16 01:35
Ender2070http://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/54430-analysis-att-corporate-personhood-supreme-court-loss-is-a-good-thingMar 16 01:35
_Goblinat least "geeks" were being productive.......Mar 16 01:35
sebsebsebit keeps them pretty dumb at computers in factMar 16 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Analysis: AT&T corporate personhood Supreme Court loss is a good thing | TG Daily .::. Size~: 45.11 KBMar 16 01:35
_GoblinI would personally go back to the 90's anytime......we never had the IT baffled turning up on a bBSMar 16 01:36
sebsebseb_Goblin: exactly at least most or all geeks, were doing something more constructiveMar 16 01:36
sebsebsebbbs, what's that?Mar 16 01:36
_Goblinbulletin board system....Mar 16 01:36
sebsebseba forum?Mar 16 01:36
_Goblindial up modems......14.4k,,,,hapier timesMar 16 01:36
sebsebsebin some ways maybeMar 16 01:37
sebsebsebin a wayMar 16 01:37
_Goblininfact my first modem was a 300baudMar 16 01:37
sebsebsebI mean broadband made a lot of Internet addicts, including us lot?Mar 16 01:37
_Goblinnot really....I spent alot of time running a bbs in the 90'sMar 16 01:37
_Goblinmy word was law....I was the sysop!Mar 16 01:38
DaemonFCat least Chromium gives me Trash-free YoutubeMar 16 01:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: I think it was better when Myspace was the popular social networking siteMar 16 01:38
DaemonFCI could get used to thisMar 16 01:38
_GoblinI never really got into myspace...Mar 16 01:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: 1. wasn't meant to use a sur name on Myspace :)Mar 16 01:39
sebsebsebcould go with an online name and that was fine :)Mar 16 01:39
_Goblininfact appart from twiiter to pimp my articles.....I don't really have an interest in social networking sites...Mar 16 01:39
sebsebseb2. the profile was set up in a good way for content and such, it's had a re design whenever it was nowMar 16 01:39
sebsebsebI had some people from netMar 16 01:39
sebsebsebI had photos upMar 16 01:39
sebsebsebfinding people maye wasn't quite as easy as Facebook, but well watever, Myspace was used by me here andt here, and it was alright and yeahMar 16 01:40
sebsebsebthen it was like, your meant to get Facebook, and I got one, and basically no one cared about me on it most of the time, that I had and so onMar 16 01:40
sebsebsebtwitter is microblogging that's differnet really I guessMar 16 01:40
sebsebsebso in that caseMar 16 01:40
sebsebsebsocial networking sites :(  except for  maybe Myspace and stuff like thatMar 16 01:41
sebsebseband microblogging sites, Twitter :(  identica and such :)Mar 16 01:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway 01:41am you got a day off work or something?Mar 16 01:41
_GoblinIve been spanked on Facebook apparently......I see the incomming links on my site.....Mar 16 01:41
sebsebsebuh what does that mean?Mar 16 01:41
_Goblinsebsebseb: insulted.Mar 16 01:42
_Goblinsebsebseb: I love it.....I love how through my text I can evoke an emotional response from someMar 16 01:42
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ric Flair said "To be loved is fine, to be hated it fine....its indifference thats the killer"Mar 16 01:43
sebsebsebsure not everyone is going to like everything we say onlineMar 16 01:43
sebsebsebor in person for that matterMar 16 01:43
_Goblinthats better than them having no feeling at allMar 16 01:43
_Goblininfact I prefer the angry person to the agreeable one.Mar 16 01:44
sebsebsebuhmm okMar 16 01:45
_Goblinwhen Im looking for light entertainment, I will write about certain topics which have the insults/trolls coming rolling in......I enjoy occasionally visiting the zoo and feeding them.Mar 16 01:45
_Goblinand my stats reflect that people do enjoy reading a good banter.Mar 16 01:47
_GoblinI can treble the hits on any one post just by having the potty mouth trolls turn up.Mar 16 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @dpic Please take the Ada Initiative Census on women in free technology & culture: http://redd.it/g4se6 !wfs !geekfem !linuxchix @vio ...Mar 16 01:48
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*enthymeme has quit (Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.1.1)Mar 16 01:50
_Goblinquestion time to everyone here.......Mar 16 01:55
_Goblinif there is a site that reports tech news......Mar 16 01:55
_Goblinand has....Mar 16 01:55
_GoblinPremium members of MicrosoftMar 16 01:55
_Goblinat the bottom of its about page.....what does that mean?  Whats a "premium member of Microsoft"Mar 16 01:55
_GoblinI'm interested to know what that entails, what it requires....what "benefits" and what are you expected to do as a "member"Mar 16 01:57
_Goblin(In the context of a tech site)Mar 16 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #priceless Watching an ABC news report worrying about about radiation travelling from Japan to USA #BlackhumourMar 16 01:59
_Goblinhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110315/02072513497/bon-jovi-thinks-steve-jobs-killed-music-more-old-rockers-shooing-those-darn-kids-off-their-lawn.shtmlMar 16 02:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bon Jovi Thinks Steve Jobs Killed Music; More Old Rockers Shooing Those Darn Kids Off Their Lawn | Techdirt .::. Size~: 161.51 KBMar 16 02:01
_GoblinI'd say Bon Jovi killed it.Mar 16 02:01
_GoblinI was from that generation (and some) and was one of many who saw Bon Jovi as generic rubbishMar 16 02:02
_Goblinsort of a Status Quo with a little more distortion and the amp cranked up to 11Mar 16 02:03
_Goblinyou only need to learn 4 chords and you can play most of bon jovi's entire catalogMar 16 02:03
abeNd-orgmeh, old people are the rudest, cut in front of you in line at the grocery store, drive slow in the fast lane on purpose, etcMar 16 02:08
_Goblindamn right.......good effort!Mar 16 02:09
_Goblinthat last one, I'm guilty of.....especially when some speed demon thinks his nova can match an audi....time for a little slow down to remind him about being a responsible driver.Mar 16 02:10
abeNd-orgoh, they never hold the door open for you on the way out, jerksMar 16 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[vejeta/@vejeta] ♻ @laurelrusswurm ♺ @jfm Thank you, Bra