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| TechrightsBot | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 11-May-11 23:12:19 UTC - Identi.ca: US attacks on New Zealand drug agency draw anger http://is.gd/GXuGXF and quite rightly so. Neo-colonialism can be real theft (or "piracy") | May 12 00:38 |
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| TechrightsBot | @Freemor (freemor)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 21:09:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @boycottnovell Thanks for all the good reporting over there at http://techrights.org/ | May 12 00:40 |
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| TechrightsBot | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 12:33:10 UTC - Identi.ca: After listening to !techbytes interview I will not be able to think of @jonobacon without thinking of Justin Bieber as well :) #unforgivable | May 12 00:41 |
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| TechrightsBot | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 06-May-11 00:39:56 UTC - Identi.ca: !TechBytes Video Episode #1: The SeaMonkey® Project and Minecraft http://is.gd/Di9M3v http://is.gd/arh0VK | May 12 00:42 |
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| TechrightsBot | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 11:31:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @richslxh It was talked about on !techbytes episode 43. The mods doing this is why I have not been on Ubuntu forums for 3 years or so. | May 12 00:42 |
| TechrightsBot | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 12:33:10 UTC - Identi.ca: After listening to !techbytes interview I will not be able to think of @jonobacon without thinking of Justin Bieber as well :) #unforgivable | May 12 00:42 |
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| TechrightsBot | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 11:14:31 UTC - Identi.ca: Glad @jonobacon called out on the systematic suppression and sidelining of Mono critics on Ubuntu forum by moderators. !techbytes | May 12 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennifercowgirl/status/68583794176823296 | May 12 09:02 |
| TechrightsBot | @jennifercowgirl: @schestowitz Business has only two functions - marketing and innovation. | May 12 09:02 |
| schestowitz | That's an overly simplistic point of view | May 12 09:02 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | May 12 13:41 |
| schestowitz | http://twit.tv/floss165 | May 12 13:41 |
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| schestowitz | Sposored by Netflix | May 12 13:41 |
| schestowitz | He's pimping netflix for "PC or Mac" | May 12 13:41 |
| schestowitz | No Linux | May 12 13:41 |
| schestowitz | in a FLOSS show | May 12 13:41 |
| schestowitz | And it's proprietary with proprietary Silver Lie | May 12 13:42 |
| schestowitz | How can they do the show with a straight face? | May 12 13:42 |
| schestowitz | They use to do Microsoft Ford Sync | May 12 13:42 |
| schestowitz | in FLOSS Weekly, _after_ I was on the show | May 12 13:42 |
| schestowitz | About Mono: "veyr popular" | May 12 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Arghhh,... | May 12 13:45 |
| schestowitz | They advise forking it | May 12 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Why do they pimp this Microsoft rubbish? | May 12 13:45 |
| abeNd-org | because it writes their paycheck? | May 12 13:57 |
| schestowitz | heh | May 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz | but one works for scoracle | May 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz | to be fair, from sun | May 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Blech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezP7GLkY81Q | May 12 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | GOP and nuttes | May 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz | *ters | May 12 14:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBskDv4LvwM&feature=related | May 12 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIXlBat62eU&feature=relmfu | May 12 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/68661757710827520 | May 12 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot | @agente_smithe: @schestowitz Take a look at this http://ping.fm/E8QvQ | May 12 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/68692942914732033 | May 12 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot | @wayneborean: @agentsmith @schestowitz Hehe. Well, we were right about one thing. It was a company with no morals that was behind it. #fb #google | May 12 16:44 |
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| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Thursday, 12-May-11 15:58:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @wayneborean @schestowitz The comments are, almost all, pro Google. One can see(and feel) the love there. Google fan(+1) | May 12 17:14 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: This is my rodent of choice -- a Logitech trackball, $30US, the large ball operated by your first two fingers, not your thumb -- much more accurate. The middle button is simulated easily in Linux by pressing the left and right buttons at the same time. The ball lifts out, and you can clean the crud from the three contact points with a tissue once a week. | May 12 17:44 |
| msb_ | http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/4680 | May 12 17:44 |
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| msb_ | I've used one for almost ten years, and it's still functioning well. | May 12 17:45 |
| MinceR | mine is a Logitech G9x | May 12 17:53 |
| schestowitz | msb_: I'm not sure to these | May 12 17:59 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: It's comfortable, fits the hand well. When you select text you can lift your fingers off the ball and thus be sure the selection won't change when you release the left button. Symmetrical, so can be used by right- and left-handed people. | May 12 18:02 |
| schestowitz | I need something that can be used on a sofa | May 12 18:04 |
| msb_ | Well, a trackball would certainly work better on a sofa than a mouse! | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I should go to town | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | It's nearby anyway, a tag late though | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | *tad | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | o tomorrow | May 12 18:05 |
| schestowitz | My backup mouse is rubbish | May 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz | hang onn.. | May 12 18:06 |
| msb_ | It works fine on my bare leg. I just tried it. Over pants it might slip off. | May 12 18:06 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | May 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz | suddently the logitech one works again | May 12 18:07 |
| schestowitz | suddenly | May 12 18:07 |
| msb_ | Maybe a wire is broken where it enters the mouse, and makes contact if you bend the cable left or right. | May 12 18:08 |
| msb_ | That is, if it uses a cable. | May 12 18:09 |
| schestowitz | most likely | May 12 18:15 |
| schestowitz | I put a board on top of the cable overnight | May 12 18:15 |
| Ender_nothome | msb_ don't you love the logitech logo :) | May 12 18:16 |
| msb_ | Ender_nothome: It is kinda cute. | May 12 18:18 |
| Ender_nothome | the all seeing eye | May 12 18:19 |
| msb_ | Nah -- no pyramid. | May 12 18:19 |
| msb_ | Logitech and Creative make good products. | May 12 18:19 |
| Ender_nothome | they do I agree | May 12 18:20 |
| Ender_nothome | I swear by their keyboards | May 12 18:20 |
| Ender_nothome | I have the G15 | May 12 18:20 |
| Ender_nothome | has a programmable LCD, even in linux | May 12 18:21 |
| MinceR | and a crappy rubber dome construction that becomes nearly unusable in a year | May 12 18:29 |
| MinceR | :> | May 12 18:29 |
| Ender_nothome | hey msb_ http://img.go-here.nl/evolution.jpg | May 12 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 12 18:32 |
| schestowitz | MSBing :-) | May 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: LOL | May 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz | It was all natural, until advanced primates came | May 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz | It's like when people are asked if all animals go to Heaven | May 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | "We're special" | May 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | "Coz the Gods and the aliens we made up look almost identical to us :-) by mere chance" | May 12 18:46 |
| Ender_nothome | I guess it was mere chance that the first civilization with language and tools had known about them | May 12 18:50 |
| Ender_nothome | just a 'myth' | May 12 18:50 |
| Ender_nothome | it all comes down to 'my belief system is more correct than yours' | May 12 18:51 |
| msb_ | According to the writings of, IIRC, the Sumerians, Earth was visited by aliens, the Annunaki, who genetically modified one of the higher great apes a couple of hundred thousand years ago and made us. | May 12 18:54 |
| msb_ | One Zechariah Sitchin has written a series of books on this subject. | May 12 18:55 |
| msb_ | One of the aliens, a mean bastard named Enlil, may have been the entity called Jehovah later written about in the Torah. | May 12 18:57 |
| msb_ | Oops -- Anunnaki | May 12 19:02 |
| msb_ | They were about 8 feet tall and were humanoid with a reptilian appearance. | May 12 19:03 |
| Ender_nothome | I wonder if they had anything to do with dinosaurs | May 12 19:04 |
| msb_ | I recently read that the Sumerian word "ils", which had long been interpreted as "god(s)" actually meant "tall guys"! | May 12 19:05 |
| Ender_nothome | evolved raptors or something | May 12 19:05 |
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| msb_ | That's an interesting idea, but the Sumerians wrote that they came in ships from another planet. This is thought to be on a cometary orbit around the Sun, with a period of several thousand years. | May 12 19:07 |
| msb_ | It may be a brown dwarf star emitting enough IR to warm a planet orbitting around it where the Anunnaki live. | May 12 19:07 |
| msb_ | The star or planet may be called Nibiru. And it may be due to swing through the inner Solar System in the next couple of years. | May 12 19:08 |
| Ender_nothome | its always the hegelian dialectic when you talk about evolution | May 12 19:09 |
| Ender_nothome | its either god or evolution | May 12 19:09 |
| Ender_nothome | nothing in between, or genetic engineering | May 12 19:09 |
| Ender_nothome | one of the great arguments against evolution was that you don't see apes turning into humans today - which would be because nobody is genetically engineering them anymore | May 12 19:09 |
| msb_ | The bonobos are much more evolved than chimps or gorillas. Very intelligent. Unfortunately being killed and eaten by "humans". | May 12 19:10 |
| msb_ | Instead of "either or", it's at least "this, that, or the other". | May 12 19:11 |
| Ender_nothome | there have been some biblical stories about how God had to try again, another attempt at a human race | May 12 19:11 |
| Ender_nothome | this could explain why neanderthals had larger brains, and we're sporting smaller ones | May 12 19:11 |
| Ender_nothome | the neanderthals weren't good enough slaves being too intelligent | May 12 19:12 |
| msb_ | What was the name of that woman in the bibble who lived before Eve, and was considered evil, presumably because she wouldn't obey him? | May 12 19:13 |
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| msb_ | Lilith. | May 12 19:13 |
| Ender_nothome | was it? | May 12 19:13 |
| msb_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith | May 12 19:15 |
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| Ender_nothome | ohhh yeah, Gilgamesh | May 12 19:16 |
| msb_ | The book _The Chalice and the Blade_ gives the archeological evidence that, prior to about 5,000 years ago, most Earth civilizations had predominantly female gods, and were not interested in conquest, domination or exploitation. | May 12 19:17 |
| Ender_nothome | Clan Mother | May 12 19:17 |
| msb_ | That was called Partnership Culture -- women and men were equal. | May 12 19:17 |
| Ender_nothome | I heard something similar from Kealey who suggests Neanderthallers genetically engineered homo habiliis to get back at women | May 12 19:18 |
| Ender_nothome | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/05/09/understanding-the-owl/ | May 12 19:19 |
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| msb_ | Then something happened, perhaps the Sun got hotter and crops failed, and Dominator cultures/religions like the Jews, Greeks, Romans, etc., came into being. All male-supremacist, militaristic, economically exploitive. | May 12 19:19 |
| Ender_nothome | ice ages probably | May 12 19:20 |
| Ender_nothome | reoccuring ice ages and floods | May 12 19:20 |
| msb_ | Wow, that Kealey article is quite an intricate fantasy! Those guys must have known how to create a structural-integrity field to hold off the pressure down in the MOHO. | May 12 19:27 |
| Ender_nothome | he insists thats why they must have had the advanced AI | May 12 19:28 |
| msb_ | Reminiscent of the Hollow-Earth fantasy, with a star on the inside. | May 12 19:28 |
| Ender_nothome | I've had a hard time finding evidence that neanderthals had linked their brains together | May 12 19:29 |
| Ender_nothome | which seems to be a prerequisit requirement for any of the other theories based on it | May 12 19:29 |
| Ender_nothome | http://ur1.ca/45rlu | May 12 19:31 |
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| Ender_nothome | oops | May 12 19:31 |
| Ender_nothome | wrong link | May 12 19:31 |
| Ender_nothome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf0vrjZL52g | May 12 19:32 |
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| schestowitz | I see it's becoming a channel of the fictions | May 12 19:33 |
| Ender_nothome | its nice of you to classify that as fiction | May 12 19:33 |
| Ender_nothome | fits in well with the climate science | May 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Some parts are fiction | May 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | let's keep the two apart :-) | May 12 19:35 |
| Ender_nothome | lets have open minds | May 12 19:35 |
| Ender_nothome | breaking out of a censensus trance is what brings science forward | May 12 19:37 |
| Ender_nothome | otherwise we wouldn't have quantum mechanics | May 12 19:37 |
| Ender_nothome | and other such stuff | May 12 19:37 |
| Ender_nothome | we would still think the earth was flat | May 12 19:37 |
| schestowitz | That's different | May 12 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Comparing observations to old scrolls | May 12 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Then suggesting alien genesis | May 12 19:38 |
| Ender_nothome | whats wrong with that | May 12 19:38 |
| schestowitz | No evidence | May 12 19:39 |
| schestowitz | the hypothesis is weak | May 12 19:39 |
| Ender_nothome | the old scrolls are the evidence | May 12 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I could start by stating, as one person did, that the craters on the moon were created by Noah's flood | May 12 19:39 |
| schestowitz | There are k00ks who spread this nonsense in YouTube | May 12 19:39 |
| schestowitz | And one who said the moon came from inside Saturn or something | May 12 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: they defy rules in the universe | May 12 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Ones that have never been observed violated | May 12 19:40 |
| Ender_nothome | you do know evidence can be destroyed right? | May 12 19:40 |
| Ender_nothome | its not hard to destroy bones | May 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | And it was written by primitive minds with more imagination than understanding | May 12 19:41 |
| Ender_nothome | how do you really know that | May 12 19:41 |
| Ender_nothome | all you have is their bones | May 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Which bones? | May 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | We have loads underground, some fossilised | May 12 19:41 |
| msb_ | There are various anomalous objects -- the Piri Reis map, the crystal skulls, a very large humanoid skeleton, even the Egyptian Pyramids. These objects imply technology or species not included in the standard explanation of Earth's history. | May 12 19:41 |
| Ender_nothome | if there were aliens involved, their bones | May 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | No evidence found of anything which does not further validate the evolutionary chain | May 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | It's put there in a way that, unless put this way to 'fool us', makes perfect sense | May 12 19:42 |
| Ender_nothome | I don't discount the evolutionary chain | May 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Egyptian Pyramids are not so mysterious | May 12 19:42 |
| Ender_nothome | however I also don't believe based ont he evidence that we're a result of 100% evolution | May 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | It took a long time for Egyptians to build them | May 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot of written work and research on where they prepared the stones | May 12 19:42 |
| Ender_nothome | where did they get their diamond tipped blades for cutting the stones | May 12 19:43 |
| schestowitz | These days we build far more marvellous things | May 12 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: why would aliens, if any exist, have bones? | May 12 19:43 |
| Ender_nothome | why not | May 12 19:43 |
| schestowitz | They don't need to be based on the same atomic element and synthessis | May 12 19:43 |
| msb_ | Yes, but these days we have much higher technology than the Egyptians. | May 12 19:43 |
| schestowitz | They could be 100,000 times bigger than us | May 12 19:43 |
| schestowitz | And that would just be crossing over to fantasy land | May 12 19:44 |
| Ender_nothome | where are the giant apes that evolved into giant humans? | May 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | [19:43] <Ender_nothome> where did they get their diamond tipped blades for cutting the stones | May 12 19:44 |
| msb_ | How could they have cut and shaped those blocks with such precision? | May 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | They don't need that | May 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | You can carve stones in many ways | May 12 19:44 |
| Ender_nothome | schestowitz - the cuts were too perfect | May 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Even water in the right conditions with tools | May 12 19:44 |
| Ender_nothome | I saw a mainstream media documentary that even admitted this | May 12 19:45 |
| Ender_nothome | with Al from Home Improvement | May 12 19:45 |
| Ender_nothome | cant remember the name | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Pointing at the pyramid and saying something like "aliens" is like showing the DNA correlations and saying "God!" | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | It's a placeholder | May 12 19:45 |
| Ender_nothome | schestowitz - their old texts talk about them | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | We already have detailed explanations for both | May 12 19:45 |
| Ender_nothome | even refering to giants | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | [19:44] <Ender_nothome> where are the giant apes that evolved into giant humans? | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | What? | May 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Humans are humans | May 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Are you sure you know the taxonomy? | May 12 19:46 |
| Ender_nothome | even primitive minds can tell the difference between super tall and normal size | May 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | It's not a singular classification | May 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | We are still descendents of apes | May 12 19:46 |
| Ender_nothome | with a few little extras added | May 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | The ones we are derived from are extinct, like most animal species | May 12 19:47 |
| Ender_nothome | like our brains | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | [19:44] <msb_> How could they have cut and shaped those blocks with such precision? | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Patience | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | It took dozens of years and many workers | May 12 19:47 |
| Ender_nothome | LOL | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | [19:44] <Ender_nothome> schestowitz - the cuts were too perfect | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Good job then ;-) | May 12 19:47 |
| Ender_nothome | wheres your proof it took so long | May 12 19:47 |
| msb_ | How were the Crystal Skulls cut and polished with such precision? How was the Piri Reis map created that accurately showed continents unknown to the ancients? | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | My screen is very flat | May 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | It was made by machine | May 12 19:47 |
| Ender_nothome | exactly | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | [19:45] <Ender_nothome> schestowitz - their old texts talk about them | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | They also talk about a man walking on water | May 12 19:48 |
| Ender_nothome | you might wonder if you found and LCD from ancient egypt | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | They talk about talking snakes in the sky | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Among other things | May 12 19:48 |
| Ender_nothome | bad translations | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | [19:45] <Ender_nothome> even refering to giants | May 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe elephants | May 12 19:49 |
| Ender_nothome | in the sky could be in space | May 12 19:49 |
| msb_ | Maybe referring to reptilian humanoids who came from the sky. | May 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | [19:46] <Ender_nothome> even primitive minds can tell the difference between super tall and normal size | May 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | The everest is tall | May 12 19:49 |
| Ender_nothome | as far as an ancient civ knows, the stars are in the sky too | May 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | There are people almost as tall as 3 meters | May 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | If you breed for height you could make humans increasingly tall | May 12 19:49 |
| schestowitz | But it would take other DNA elements to catch up, e.g. size of heart | May 12 19:50 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] <msb_> How were the Crystal Skulls cut and polished with such precision? How was the Piri Reis map created that accurately showed continents unknown to the ancients? | May 12 19:50 |
| schestowitz | To say "alien" or "God" is not the easy answer | May 12 19:50 |
| schestowitz | It requires explaining even more | May 12 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Like... | May 12 19:50 |
| schestowitz | How were the aliens made with such precision | May 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Where did God come from? | May 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | You could save a step and just say the workers were skilled and made decent tools | May 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Did you see what's done on a tiny silicon wafer that runs your PC? | May 12 19:51 |
| Ender_nothome | or hide a step by lying through omission | May 12 19:51 |
| Ender_nothome | thats done today | May 12 19:51 |
| msb_ | I think that with billions of stars in our galaxy, it's very unlikely that we are the only intelligent species. | May 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | It took a lot of research, not prayer or visir from some human-looking foreigners from planets we don't know | May 12 19:52 |
| Ender_nothome | its simple math | May 12 19:52 |
| schestowitz | msb_: true | May 12 19:52 |
| schestowitz | But that does not suggest we were visited | May 12 19:52 |
| Ender_nothome | explain where we got our brain, and where the ape-human hybrids are | May 12 19:52 |
| schestowitz | All so-called 'evidence' was fabricated | May 12 19:52 |
| schestowitz | People just want to believe in this | May 12 19:53 |
| Ender_nothome | what was fabricated | May 12 19:53 |
| msb_ | But another explanation for the anomalous artifacts is that they were created by a previous human civilization with a level of technology similar to what we have today, and for some reason it disappeared. | May 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | That's why some have deities | May 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | These are extensions to one's ego | May 12 19:53 |
| Ender_nothome | msb_ roy's a liberal phd | May 12 19:53 |
| Ender_nothome | you'll see where this one goes | May 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | msb_: there's smart people in the past | May 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Like the ROmans | May 12 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Before Alexandria's library was burned | May 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | But we have evicence for this | May 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Same with Baghdad battery | May 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | We have lots of evidence of Incan culture | May 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | It was not *that* advanced | May 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | The TV programmes overplay it for audience | May 12 19:54 |
| Ender_nothome | tv "programs" | May 12 19:55 |
| Ender_nothome | :) | May 12 19:55 |
| Ender_nothome | later, cake time | May 12 19:55 |
| msb_ | But to see the planet from space, to carve the crystal skulls, etc, requires high technology, not just high intelligence. | May 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | When there's evidence for something, we'll know it | May 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | People don't need to hide that\ | May 12 19:55 |
| Ender_nothome | msb_ knows way more about this than you do in fact | May 12 19:55 |
| Ender_nothome | brb | May 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | When Isa the missing link was found, people celebrated having what was expected to be fossilised somewhere | May 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | *Ida? | May 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Can't remember.. | May 12 19:55 |
| msb_ | I've just seen this info on TV. But those artifacts are real. | May 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz | why would anyone carve crystal skulls? | May 12 19:56 |
| MinceR | for art | May 12 19:56 |
| msb_ | I don't know, but someone did. They do exist. | May 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz | And also, why are so many people who claim to have been abducted by aliens returning so fast and claim to have had sexual experiemnts on them | May 12 19:56 |
| MinceR | (or for religion) | May 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Aliens don't travel to play with another species genetalia | May 12 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's a leap of faith | May 12 19:57 |
| MinceR | are you sure? | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | And like Tyson said, one would be able to grab a tool from something extraq-terrestrial | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | We have nothing extra-terrestrial | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Pyramids are not it | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Pyramids are total crap | May 12 19:57 |
| msb_ | "Cartman Gets an Anal Probe" is one of the funniest TV shows ever! | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Go to Singapore to see more amazing structures and engineering | May 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | msb_: heh | May 12 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Why are people obsessed with that? | May 12 19:58 |
| schestowitz | And in the xontect of aliens | May 12 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Like they want to know what you had to eat.... | May 12 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Star Trek Enema 3.4 | May 12 19:59 |
| schestowitz | "We bowl-ly go where no-one has done before" | May 12 19:59 |
| msb_ | UFOs have been reported by very reliable people -- airline pilots, etc. | May 12 20:00 |
| schestowitz | the u stands for alien? | May 12 20:00 |
| msb_ | There is a guy who invented a room-temperature superconducting substance -- a type of titanium boride. | May 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Wow. Eduardo is such a wonderful man | May 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | He has just mailed me again | May 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | He helps the site reach the Spanish-speaking people | May 12 20:01 |
| msb_ | He proved beyond any doubt that it is superconductive. | May 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | the guy from our Uni? | May 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | What's the substance? | May 12 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > Gracias, muchisimas Gracias! | May 12 20:02 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 12 20:02 |
| msb_ | At the time, he was working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which is where the pieces of the Roswell saucer were said to have been taken. | May 12 20:02 |
| msb_ | I spoke to him, and he denies having been given a piece of material and asked to duplicate it. | May 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Roswell was debunked many times | May 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Aliens would not just do substance stuff | May 12 20:03 |
| msb_ | He says he discovered it when he was working on new materials for turbine blades. | May 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Like said by the Cambridge guru, they're more likely to be after more territory | May 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | We are not pets to them | May 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | No more than bacteria are pets to us | May 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Compassion is in our minds for creatures that look alike | May 12 20:04 |
| msb_ | Roy, can you believe that 9-11 was an inside job? | May 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | We project our character onto creatures that might not exist and we will never meet | May 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | msb_: I saw both sides of the argument | May 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | I found that the side of truthers contained too many distortions of the facts | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | There are many versions too | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Which helps none at all | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | They can't even stick to one version | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | And a common theme is "freefall speed" | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | That's a lie | May 12 20:05 |
| msb_ | Please look at my 911 page on cosmicpenguin.com. | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | And then they move on to building 7, which is a case of changing the goalposts | May 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | And that too is easily debunked | May 12 20:06 |
| schestowitz | msb_: I saw your site, thanks | May 12 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I saw others like that too | May 12 20:06 |
| msb_ | Where did the "nano" thermite particles come from? | May 12 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I was not convinced | May 12 20:06 |
| msb_ | Where did the huge puddles of molten iron under the rubble come from? | May 12 20:06 |
| schestowitz | msb_: a place with that substance | May 12 20:06 |
| schestowitz | We don't have enough independent audits and takers | May 12 20:06 |
| msb_ | It is a synthetic substance. | May 12 20:07 |
| schestowitz | All we have is a group of people who took a fistfull of dusr | May 12 20:07 |
| schestowitz | *dust | May 12 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Research is easy to twekk if there's not enough data points and if there is also interest for those involved | May 12 20:07 |
| schestowitz | There are many other explanations | May 12 20:07 |
| msb_ | ...and subjected it to a variety of scientific analyses. | May 12 20:08 |
| schestowitz | But then you need to explain how it got in there in the first place, assuming you fgo with that theory | May 12 20:08 |
| schestowitz | QAnd where would those who could 'plant' it be? It would have leaked by now. We have loads of disgruntled people and wikileaks | May 12 20:08 |
| schestowitz | But nothing ever leaked | May 12 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Then there are the other theries | May 12 20:08 |
| schestowitz | About architecture | May 12 20:09 |
| schestowitz | But again, that's the goalpost-moving tact8ic | May 12 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Face the sceptic, pose a claim | May 12 20:09 |
| msb_ | The thermite was poured into the hollow columns in the basement, or placed in ceramic forms around the outside of the columns. | May 12 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Then, if the listener is not equipped with the facts, you declare victory | May 12 20:09 |
| schestowitz | If the listeners knows the responses, then you move on to another angle | May 12 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Ad infinitum | May 12 20:09 |
| msb_ | Of the thousands of people involved in the CIA, only about 5 have ever talked about their evil work. | May 12 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I tend to know the different theories put forth and I know how to respond to them rather than say "I'll have to check that" | May 12 20:10 |
| schestowitz | msb_: more than 5 | May 12 20:10 |
| schestowitz | far more | May 12 20:10 |
| schestowitz | to some extent | May 12 20:10 |
| msb_ | Sorry Roy, your talking about "different theories" and "moving the goalposts" is just hand-waving. | May 12 20:10 |
| schestowitz | if you worked for the CIA killing 3000 Americans, you would let it leak somehow | May 12 20:11 |
| schestowitz | But that never happened | May 12 20:11 |
| schestowitz | People who did far smaller war crimes, e.g. in South America, blew the whistle | May 12 20:11 |
| schestowitz | msb_: OK, so I was talking about the theory of remanants of explosives | May 12 20:11 |
| schestowitz | The footage shows no explosion | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Nothing done in unison | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Just what you'd expect to happen | May 12 20:12 |
| msb_ | It was done floor by floor. | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | If there was a chain reaction in collapse | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | And the samples taken cannot be verified | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | msb_: any footage showing this distinctly? | May 12 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Actually showing an explosion? | May 12 20:12 |
| msb_ | The samples were gathered from about 5 different locations. | May 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | What I see is one floor collapsing upon the one beneath it | May 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Loads of weight | May 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | They can't possible withstand that | May 12 20:13 |
| msb_ | The explosions took place inside the towers. You don't see fiery explosions when buildings are demolished. | May 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | *possibly withstand | May 12 20:13 |
| schestowitz | The plane's fuel chambers exploded, I'm sure | May 12 20:14 |
| schestowitz | That can explain all sorts og theories | May 12 20:14 |
| msb_ | Yes, and released burning kerosene. Which cannot melt steel. | May 12 20:14 |
| schestowitz | But we don't have hard evidence in footage of explosives on girders | May 12 20:14 |
| schestowitz | the steel can bend | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Under a lot of weight | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | It just needs a catalyst | May 12 20:15 |
| msb_ | Where did the huge puddles of molten iron under the rubble come from? They were observed by the workers. | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Now, go prove that something melted the girders by intervention | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Then, explain why they would want to go with the whole plot of many planes being hijacked | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | They could do it simply, no? If that were true... | May 12 20:15 |
| schestowitz | You can't just treat the hijackers as relish in a demolition job. You'd have a hard time supporting this | May 12 20:16 |
| schestowitz | That's be like me going to Disneyworld to access my google account | May 12 20:16 |
| msb_ | Because it would not be credible that "Al Qaeda" got into the buildings and set explosives. Whereas they could have hijacked planes (although actually not with box-cutters as their only weapons). | May 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | msb_: where would they come from? | May 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | You said there were explosives | May 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | They don't make molten iron | May 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | So now it's down to torching | May 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | And the story changs | May 12 20:18 |
| msb_ | Please read my 911 page (again). The explosives (but not the detonators) were built in when the WTC was constructed. | May 12 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Like I said, to make a compelling case, the claims need to be consistent | May 12 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Show me domolished complexes that end up with puddles of iron | May 12 20:18 |
| schestowitz | It's not how it's done, so it does not support the other claims (even if the workers did see such a thing) | May 12 20:19 |
| msb_ | The thermite particles and the puddles of iron ARE consistent. | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | WTC was built long ago | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't need to come with a kill switch | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Becuase... | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | The peopple designing and building it would say something, to say the least | May 12 20:19 |
| msb_ | Roy, can we talk via Skype. I have a sprained wrist and can't type anymore. | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | When WTC was built there were not undercover CIA staff doing all the work | May 12 20:19 |
| schestowitz | msb_: OK | May 12 20:20 |
| schestowitz | But I don't skype | May 12 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft(TM) Skype(R) | May 12 20:20 |
| msb_ | Please make an exception. Skype has not been sold yet. | May 12 20:21 |
| msb_ | brb | May 12 20:24 |
| schestowitz | not signed? | May 12 20:34 |
| schestowitz | There is no investigation or lawsuit yet, so not much left to stop it now | May 12 20:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Would you please? | May 12 20:55 |
| schestowitz | complain to the authorities about the skype takeover? | May 12 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't have much trust in regulators | May 12 20:57 |
| msb_ | Roy, can we talk via Skype. I have a sprained wrist and can't type anymore. | May 12 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I view them as useless puppets that bend over only if there's a crowd bearing effigies | May 12 20:57 |
| schestowitz | msb_: oh, *that* | May 12 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Well, I'm open-minded at all, but I decided firmly not to boot up skype | May 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | When the deal happened my dad called | May 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | landline of course | May 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | And then he said, "no skype, eh?" | May 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | And I was like, "yup!" | May 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | The only thing where it might be crucial is work with other professors, but I use E-mail instead most of the time | May 12 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Leaves paper trail | May 12 20:59 |
| schestowitz | I actually was writing a mail just now | May 12 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Cause he suggested we take some volunteers to scan in 3-D for my experiments | May 12 20:59 |
| msb_ | what is the purpose of the face-scanning? | May 12 21:00 |
| schestowitz | expression analysis | May 12 21:00 |
| schestowitz | mostly access control | May 12 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Can be used for bad or for good | May 12 21:00 |
| schestowitz | E.g. avoid someone breaching your bank account | May 12 21:00 |
| schestowitz | But I work on building statistical models of faces | May 12 21:01 |
| msb_ | Could be used by govt to find someone disguised whom they're trying to murder. | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | More so than recognition, which I use to measure accuracy | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | msb_: that too | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | People have this weapon too | May 12 21:01 |
| msb_ | Like, e.g., at some point, me. | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Our brains are good at detecting faces | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | It's an evolutionary strrength | May 12 21:01 |
| schestowitz | To know whom we can trust and who might reciprocate | May 12 21:02 |
| schestowitz | What I don't like is RFID | May 12 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Although face reco' can be used similarly, only if you deplay CCTV though | May 12 21:02 |
| schestowitz | *deploy | May 12 21:02 |
| schestowitz | If it's set up at doors, then you know where you are watched and how to dodge it | May 12 21:02 |
| schestowitz | msb_: naaa.. the government goes for people who might turn violent | May 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | I am sceptical of the government | May 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | but I check what can be verified | May 12 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | Otherwise I'd subscribe to any random belief and be labelled | May 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Like those who say Osama never existed | May 12 21:03 |
| msb_ | us govt has declared 911 truth people as terrorists. | May 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | maybe watchlist | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Not the same | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Watchlist has like 400000 people on it | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Even peace activists | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | I support wikileaks, so hey, maybe I got flagged too | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | After denting about wikileaks over 2000 times | May 12 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Speaking of insiders https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/68760683793235969 | May 12 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Zemlin is right on swpats inviting trolls but various aggressively pro-swpat companies fund his organization. | May 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian | May 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | What an annoyance and an agitator | May 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | I bet he's connected to Microsoft like those PR agents | May 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe via another company | May 12 21:05 |
| schestowitz | I quite like this show: http://skeptoid.com/episode_guide.php good for understanding methods of telling apart truth from just theory | May 12 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | I listened to all the show until some months ago | May 12 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | hmmm | May 12 21:27 |
| Ender_nothome | roy is working on facial recognition, the plot thickens | May 12 21:27 |
| Ender_nothome | nice topic change btw | May 12 21:29 |
| Ender_nothome | its just like the climategate documents - the media said theres nothing to see so he believes it | May 12 21:29 |
| Ender_nothome | one of the first things roy said when I mentioned climategate in the channel, was to parrot the line "out of context" | May 12 21:30 |
| Ender_nothome | which was the catchphrase of every anti-climategate media article | May 12 21:30 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Well, I think I have ekiga working. What is your SIP address? | May 12 21:49 |
| msb_ | Ender_nothome: Brandon, are you on SIP? | May 12 21:50 |
| schestowitz | [21:29] <Ender_nothome> its just like the climategate documents - the media said theres nothing to see so he believes it | May 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Not true | May 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I dismiss Gore | May 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | And I allege he does more harm than good (For profit) | May 12 21:56 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Well, I think I have ekiga working. What is your SIP address? | May 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | But there are many things about climate which are true and don't need dramatisation and exaggeratiomn | May 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <Ender_nothome> one of the first things roy said when I mentioned climategate in the channel, was to parrot the line "out of context" | May 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz | it is | May 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz | And famously, Munkton (spelling?) keeps misquiting people knowingly | May 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz | *misquoting | May 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz | when they say trick they mean one thing | May 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Fox Oil COmpany reshapes it to deceive regarding the meaning | May 12 21:58 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Roy, I think I have ekiga working. What is your SIP address? | May 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz | msb_: schestowitz@ekiga.net, but use it later. Right now I'm busy with link | May 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz | use echotest | May 12 21:59 |
| msb_ | I did. It works. | May 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/05/11/google.skype.wired/index.html | May 12 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | I installed ekiga for my dad. | May 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz | He uses PCLinuxOS | May 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz | It's also in the repos | May 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz | easier to install than skype | May 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz | what's your sip address? | May 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz | if it's registered | May 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I'll justa dd | May 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz | *Add | May 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to accomodate my sip address book | May 12 22:02 |
| msb_ | markbilk@ekiga.net | May 12 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | shown online "using ekiga" | May 12 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | I don't have it yet but I will | May 12 22:06 |
| schestowitz | skype is badly designed | May 12 22:07 |
| Ender_nothome | not really | May 12 22:07 |
| Ender_nothome | 256-bit encrypted, is ekiga? | May 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz | It gives way your IP to anyone who have you in his/her address book | May 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz | It's a security risk | May 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: it's the protocol | May 12 22:08 |
| Ender_nothome | oh noes not my IP | May 12 22:09 |
| Ender_nothome | your logs give that away every day you know | May 12 22:09 |
| Ender_nothome | plus ever website you visit has it | May 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz | yes, but in skype you need not participate | May 12 22:10 |
| Ender_nothome | unless you use tor | May 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz | it's enough for you to be online on skype | May 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz | people who target PCs can fish IPs of actual people | May 12 22:10 |
| Ender_nothome | it only became dangerous after microsoft got it | May 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz | And some people's hostnames are their names, which is also dumb | May 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz | It's like they want to leave their ID on everyone's log | May 12 22:11 |
| Ender_nothome | thats their ISP's fault | May 12 22:11 |
| Ender_nothome | anyways | May 12 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | ekiga! | May 12 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: not ISPs | May 12 22:12 |
| msb_ | So far, for me, ekiga sucks. I can't add Roy to my contacts. It says I already did but he doesn't show up. | May 12 22:12 |
| schestowitz | universities too sometimes | May 12 22:13 |
| schestowitz | depends which ones | May 12 22:13 |
| Ender_nothome | schestowitz - the user usually doesn't get to set his own hostname | May 12 22:15 |
| Ender_nothome | interesting how google was interested in buying skype and then discovered it would suck | May 12 22:15 |
| schestowitz | How Google Is Winning the Hearts and Minds of Software Developers http://www.thevarguy.com/2011/05/11/how-google-is-winning-the-hearts-and-minds-of-software-developers/ | May 12 22:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How Google Is Winning the Hearts and Minds of Software Developers | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 64.17 KB | May 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | If it sucks, then it suits Microsoft's product line | May 12 22:19 |
| MinceR | it's not hard to tell that it sucks | May 12 22:21 |
| MinceR | it's an overcomplicated solution to the problem that many lusers can't be bothered to configure their routers properly :> | May 12 22:23 |
| msb_ | Skype works great for me. I can't even add a contact to Ekiga, the audio sounds like crap, and it has no working echo cancellation. Skype excels in all these areas. | May 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz | msb_: the audio sounds OK usually | May 12 22:24 |
| msb_ | Well, it doesn't on the echo test. | May 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz | and it's very well compressed and secure | May 12 22:24 |
| msb_ | I'll try Linphone. | May 12 22:25 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, ekiga doesn't run encrypted, obfuscated nonfree code on your computer and doesn't send/receive encrypted, obfuscated packets to/from random hosts | May 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | linphone-3 | May 12 22:25 |
| msb_ | It also doesn't work for me. | May 12 22:25 |
| MinceR | there probably are many other ways to use SIP or H.323-based VoIP | May 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | i also use sip-communivcator | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | They renamed though | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | My camera works in all sip clients | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | No camera I ever tried worked in skype | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Skype is utter rubbish, at least on Linux | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I never tried it on other platforms | May 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | http://fossforce.com/2011/05/evil-empire-buys-skype/ | May 12 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | we now need to create and popularise a 'Firefox for VOIP' | May 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | to replace the MISE-like skype monoculture | May 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | MSIE | May 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | we now need to create and popularise a 'Firefox for VOIP'http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Skype-ing-out-an-open-source-future-1241617.html | May 12 22:28 |
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| Ender_nothome | going home | May 12 22:29 |
| Ender_nothome | im staying on so I dont loose track | May 12 22:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/68789315882328065 | May 12 22:35 |
| TechrightsBot | @palmerv0r: nb. despite previous @schestowitz RT, I personally believe Google may be #nwo. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. | May 12 22:35 |
| schestowitz | true. I'd like to think that, even for its own selfish benefit/agenda, Google can popularise *NIX on all desktops. | May 12 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Less "scumbags" to take advantage of Windows botnets and launch DDOS attacks on SIP servers ;-) | May 12 22:37 |
| MinceR | Rule #29: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less. | May 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: me counts for odd/even | May 12 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Oh, good news today. | May 12 22:42 |
| schestowitz | A few hours ago I got a date with this girl who's quite something :-) | May 12 22:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/68792094063476736 | May 12 22:48 |
| TechrightsBot | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz I thought that a long time ago, but Google Earth's limited support for *nix suggested otherwise, and Chrome is a takeover. | May 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Google Earth led to crashy window managers the last time I dared to use it, I wonder if they have improved it.. | May 12 22:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/68792506820726784 | May 12 22:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz o.0 Tis almost as if you know me... yeah, DoS on SIP services is the bane of my life at the moment. Let's crush those folk | May 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I'm RSS | May 12 22:50 |
| MinceR | "bitch, i'm a bus!" | May 12 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Naa... | May 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Private joke | May 12 22:53 |
| MinceR | a joke about privates? | May 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | He knows me cause they're our clients | May 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | RSS = my initials | May 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to him on the phone some days ago | May 12 22:54 |
| MinceR | oh/ | May 12 22:55 |
| MinceR | s,/,./ | May 12 22:55 |
| MinceR | oops | May 12 22:55 |
| MinceR | s,/,., | May 12 22:55 |
| MinceR | i thought of Really Simple Syndication | May 12 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 12 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Coincidence | May 12 23:01 |
| schestowitz | My first and last names are same as RMS' | May 12 23:01 |
| schestowitz | There's usually the joke about my name at work being a technical term | May 12 23:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/68800238718173184 | May 12 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz I only tried to use Google Earth once, and it was too 'good' for my machine. I tend to run old hardware in a huge stack. ;) | May 12 23:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a one-time application. You run it, you find your home, you close it, then just use Google Maps with StreetView, if ever. :-) | May 12 23:20 |
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