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| schestowitz | > Wrt | May 16 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/13/apple-iphone-developers-app | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Apple iPhone app developers hit by patent claims | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 141 KB | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > The mentioning of FM indicates to me that I do not have to take the | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > article seriously. | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > "He filed for the patent in 1992 and it was granted in 1999, making it | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > valid for at least another 15 years." | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > 1992 + 20 = 2012 | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > Relevant US patent numbers are mentioned here | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.lodsys.com/our-patents.html | May 16 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Our Patents - Lodsys, LLC .::. Size~: 8.07 KB | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > For instance this "technology" | May 16 00:22 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=uNsYAAAAEBAJ&dq=5999908 | May 16 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Customer-based product design module - Google Patents .::. Size~: 84.5 KB | May 16 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 00:23 |
| schestowitz | > You won't find trivial and non-trivial software patents. | May 16 00:23 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, any news with you know what lol | May 16 00:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.npr.org/2011/05/13/136269417/lumber-barons-fortune-divided-after-92-years | May 16 00:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Lumber Baron's Fortune Divided After 92 Years : NPR .::. Size~: 52.02 KB | May 16 00:36 |
| schestowitz | "Wellington R. Burt left behind a fortune when he died in 1919, but his kids never saw the money. His will said the money would not be distributed until 21 years after his last grandchild died. The condition was finally met last month, and a dozen descendants split about $100 million." | May 16 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Ah, brilliant!! | May 16 00:36 |
| schestowitz | He'll force his kids to actually be real people | May 16 00:36 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: mono? | May 16 00:36 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube "Stick a fork in me, I'm done"" | May 16 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - YouTube - Stick a fork in me, I'm done! | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DI0Z_GCj7HTg | May 16 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - YouTube - Stick a fork in me, I'm done... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKXdO5l77hSQ | May 16 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - YouTube - Stick a fork in me, I'm done | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dw8EqTvR6Bh0 | May 16 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot | [4] - Stick a fork in me, I'm done « Reflections of a student on the ... | http://blabbingwithriaga.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/stick-a-fork-in-me-im-done/ | May 16 00:37 |
| neighborlee | hm | May 16 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | May 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz | "Bob Weir, Twitter" | May 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw meant Sutor (in News Picks)... | May 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: was it about mono or did I guess incorrectly? | May 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, we all win | May 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Against Novell and Mono | May 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Novell is history now (NOVL) | May 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz | But the pursuit of freedom never ends | May 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Let's see if I'm still doing this in 10 years through my 20s and 30s | May 16 00:43 |
| neighborlee | WOah,,really.... | May 16 00:53 |
| neighborlee | yes mono | May 16 00:53 |
| neighborlee | I got tired of it afterwhile.but never have I forgotten | May 16 00:54 |
| neighborlee | hmm,,so the snakes head is bitten off ey | May 16 00:54 |
| neighborlee | baby snake that is lol | May 16 00:55 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, thx for url,,ill watch after encoding done | May 16 00:57 |
| schestowitz | ok, good | May 16 01:05 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, ok well | May 16 01:12 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz, so we all win..does that mean mono is reistrcited to non in default install and in repos only ?? | May 16 01:12 |
| schestowitz | not yet | May 16 01:14 |
| schestowitz | but mono has no promise of a future | May 16 01:14 |
| neighborlee | true that | May 16 01:15 |
| neighborlee | fspot is gone as I recall , at least | May 16 01:15 |
| neighborlee | whats left of mono in ubuntu | May 16 01:15 |
| schestowitz | bans*** and tomboy mostly | May 16 01:17 |
| neighborlee | I thought gnote was in,,and tomboy wasout | May 16 01:18 |
| neighborlee | banshee yup I heard about that..they just dont learn :)<fedora does> | May 16 01:18 |
| neighborlee | its so nice , that fedora gets it | May 16 01:18 |
| neighborlee | and by assocation..scientific linux too ;) < whom got another developer recently heh> | May 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz |  | May 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | [01:18] <neighborlee> I thought gnote was in,,and tomboy wasout | May 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | fedora | May 16 01:25 |
| neighborlee | well I just figured | May 16 01:27 |
| neighborlee | taht with gnote..who bother with tomboy anymore.. | May 16 01:27 |
| neighborlee | but then..anything ubuntu does..where does one find logic ? lol | May 16 01:27 |
| neighborlee | fedora yup i knew that | May 16 01:27 |
| neighborlee | go fedora ! ;)) | May 16 01:27 |
| neighborlee | <and scientific linux> ;))heh | May 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz | based on rhel | May 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Fedora needs to comply with rhel guidelines to an extent | May 16 01:45 |
| neighborlee | yup rhel | May 16 01:46 |
| neighborlee | SL is nice..has livecd/dvd now..etc. | May 16 01:47 |
| schestowitz | tnow? | May 16 01:48 |
| schestowitz | It has had that for years AFAIK | May 16 01:48 |
| neighborlee | well I mean..its much improved | May 16 01:51 |
| neighborlee | and not everyone knows about sl, so it bears mentioning ;)) | May 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | sl had live cds at leats sicne .x releases | May 16 01:52 |
| schestowitz | i wrote about rhese years ago | May 16 01:52 |
| schestowitz | !google scientific linux live cd schestowitz | May 16 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - [News] More Free Software for Science: RKWard (for R), 3D ... | http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2009/March_2009/msg00904.html | May 16 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - Links 26/4/2010: Scientific Linux Reviewed; More Linux Tablets ... | http://techrights.org/2010/04/26/scientific-linux-reviewed-2/ | May 16 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - Links 2/4/2011: Scientific Linux 6.0 Released, GNOME 3.0 Delays ... | http://techrights.org/2011/04/02/gnome-3-0-delays/ | May 16 01:52 |
| TechrightsBot | [4] - CLICK | http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2007/04/freesbie_first_and_mostly_nega.html | May 16 01:52 |
| neighborlee | a few years yes | May 16 01:53 |
| neighborlee | I just mean..SL isn't as 'popular' say as ubuntu, blah..so its needs mention often :)heh | May 16 01:54 |
| neighborlee | OH and also,espcially now that they did away with those anal forum things..now there is a 'normal' forum :)lol | May 16 01:54 |
| neighborlee | yay lol | May 16 01:55 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 16 02:09 |
| schestowitz | So what's new in your ife? | May 16 02:09 |
| neighborlee | waiting for summer ;) | May 16 02:14 |
| neighborlee | we're getting it in bits and pieces ;) | May 16 02:14 |
| schestowitz | we lost ous | May 16 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Was a great April | May 16 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Now mostly cloudy | May 16 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Forecast depressing | May 16 02:27 |
| neighborlee | yup | May 16 02:30 |
| neighborlee | weird year so far | May 16 02:30 |
| neighborlee | but we all knew it would be given our environmental status ;)) | May 16 02:31 |
| neighborlee | ugh ;) | May 16 02:31 |
| schestowitz | tornadoes | May 16 02:32 |
| neighborlee | yeah | May 16 02:33 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > While the 'strings' are busy, I have to take advantage so here it goes: | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > facebook-astroturfing_ES | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | We got more people involved in techrights now | May 16 02:34 |
| neighborlee | ah good :) | May 16 02:35 |
| schestowitz | what about you, mate? Been away so long.. | May 16 02:44 |
| schestowitz | > My Doctor Roy, | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > I'm teaching little Boris (3) to use the mouse so he could use the | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > mouse by himself && watch youtube videos. Wish me luck so I'll have | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > more time. | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > Meanwhile here it goes: | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | > linux-phobia-fest_ES | May 16 02:47 |
| schestowitz | Boris is called after someone...? I was just wondering. | May 16 02:47 |
| neighborlee | nothing that knew really...just working and the rest...game dev blah | May 16 03:09 |
| neighborlee | no clue | May 16 03:09 |
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| schestowitz | > Dear Doctor Roy, | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > While the 'strings' are busy, I have to take advantage so here it goes: | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > facebook-astroturfing_ES | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > My wife && myself couldn't agree on the names, so when my twins were | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > born, my mother chose the girls name: Karina && my mother-in-law (born | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > in the USSR) chose the boy's: Boris. That's the history. I will send | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > you a picture of my tribe once I download some pictures from the | May 16 08:55 |
| schestowitz | > camera. | May 16 08:55 |
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| schestowitz | Re: VoIP | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | We're getting there with SIP recoding | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | " | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | So this was my first test call after changes were made. I applied the usual filters after recording for 10 minutes. | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | After about 5 minutes I experimented with the volume a bit, which degraded the quality really (I tried to reduce echo). But would that be reasonable quality? | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | " | May 16 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Odd one... | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > Your article was ugly. | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > Just for the record, I was never demoralized. And we had a lot of | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > lawyers as members, including some GNU ones. One of them is | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > now running Groklaw. So you got some basics very wrong. | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Which article was ugly? The impression I got from Andy is that some years ago you considered retiring too. Maybe there's some miscommunication because all the tonal and visual part of lost over the interwebs. | May 16 15:19 |
| schestowitz | > Yes. The quality is better than Skype a little, but the echo was still | May 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | > a problem. | May 16 15:31 |
| schestowitz | I'll look into echo cancellation in SIP clients I have (about 5 so far). | May 16 15:31 |
| MinceR | what sort of microphone are you using? | May 16 15:33 |
| schestowitz | > It's interesting to note that I was logged into Ekiga.net but using | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | > Blink. That answers some interoperability questions. I just wish that | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | > Ekiga had not stoppe working. | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | I use sip-communicator, linphone, ekiga, blink, and I think another one that I forgot. | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: webcam+mic combo | May 16 15:54 |
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| schestowitz | >>> Hi, Roy, | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> WP for linux was by Corel | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://www.control-escape.com/wp8.html | May 16 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Introducing Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux - Control-Escape .::. Size~: 21.81 KB | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> not Caldera, I'm bad with names. | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks, was unsure myself... | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > "Corel has since backed off Linux and chewed through a $135 | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > million bailout from Microsoft. It went private last year, in a | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > $98 million buyout by a San Francisco venture capital firm. " | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > "Corel to test WordPerfect for Linux" | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > http://news.cnet.com/2100-1012_3-5183642.html | May 16 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Corel to test WordPerfect for Linux - CNET News .::. Size~: 64.81 KB | May 16 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Here is a review of WP for Linux: | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.thejemreport.com/content/view/115/74/ | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Jem is no longer in the public arena. It's a shame because he was truly shrewd and had marvelous output. The last I heard from him he was strongly promoting de Raadt's project, but then he just vanished. | May 16 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Return of WordPerfect - Mambo .::. Size~: 52.43 KB | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | BTW, new sig. below. | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | -- | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | ~~ Best of wishes | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy S. Schestowitz (Ph.D. Medical Biophysics), Imaging Researcher | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://Schestowitz.com | GNU/Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Editor @ http://techrights.org & http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ | May 16 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | GPL-licensed 3-D Othello @ http://othellomaster.com | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Non-profit search engine proposal @ http://iuron.com | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Contact E-mail address (direct): s@schestowitz.com | May 16 16:44 |
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| schestowitz | Contact Internet phone (SIP): schestowitz@ekiga.net | May 16 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Bytes Media - Sites Index .::. Size~: 37.62 KB | May 16 16:45 |
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| schestowitz | Just had this to send :-) : "My land line is most occupied because of work, which has me connected to a SIP-based network that's operated over my hub/router. As for Skype I no longer use it or will use it. I am moving to SIP fully. It's the open standard for Internet calls." | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | > Here is a review of WP for Linux: | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.thejemreport.com/content/view/115/74/ | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Jem is no longer in the public arena. It's a shame because he was truly shrewd and had marvelous output. The last I heard from him he was strongly promoting de Raadt's project, but then he just vanished. | May 16 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Return of WordPerfect - Mambo .::. Size~: 52.43 KB | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | BTW, new sig. below. | May 16 17:29 |
| schestowitz | -- | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | ~~ Best of wishes | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Roy S. Schestowitz (Ph.D. Medical Biophysics), Imaging Researcher | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | http://Schestowitz.com | GNU/Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Editor @ http://techrights.org & http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ | May 16 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: schestowitz.com .::. Size~: 16.01 KB | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | GPL-licensed 3-D Othello @ http://othellomaster.com | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Non-profit search engine proposal @ http://iuron.com | May 16 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.35 KB | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Contact E-mail address (direct): s@schestowitz.com | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Contact Internet phone (SIP): schestowitz@ekiga.net | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | >> BTW, new sig. below. | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | > The CV is a little out of date. ;) | May 16 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | Jem's? Well, mine is VERY out of date. | May 16 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Oh, Webbing is no longer with Red Hat at all. | May 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Didn't know that.. | May 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, | May 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > | May 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > Good to be reintroduced. I look forward to the opportunity to work with you. One minor correction in your post. While I still have many friends at Red Hat, I am no longer associated with the company in any way. | May 16 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I will bear it in mind and issues a correction/update. | May 16 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | just sent his one out: | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | " | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | I deeply apologise for wrongly assuming what was merely my suspicion at the end of 2008. Andy did not provide many details, so I was led to believe that you were losing interest or fearing SLAPP action (with unmasking like Rich Frenckel's). I think that a lot of people, esp. here in the UK, are somewhat discouraged by the chilling effect of libel law (see the Singh & British Chiros Assoc. case) that they think, why do I even bother? | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | What's even worse are those laws that focrce me to give my full address and telephone number or lose my 6 or 7 domains. It's insane. There are enough crazy people out there who should not be given this information. Jonathan Zuck and other Microsoft lobbyists have proxies that hide this type of information, but I cannot afford this. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > Well, you should have asked me. That's what journalism is, as opposed | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > to gossip. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > I was never demoralized. The smear campaign was designed to do that, | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > but it never achieved the goal, because I didn't actually care, which is | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > something I've mentioned in public before. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | I know you won't mind, but Florian's obsession with you has ended (no smears). He found his niche now in Microsoft proponents and he is less abrasive. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > I can't say I enjoyed it, because I didn't, but realizing its purpose, I just | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | > didn't care. I didn't even read it after a while, which you know. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | You did the right thing. I learned not to respond or to even read that stuff (which would lead to temptation to respond) unless I was bored. In USENET I still get smeared daily, but only by the very crazy trolls. Sometimes it's entertaining, but they seem to be morbidly obsessed. | May 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | " | May 16 19:46 |
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