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| schestowitz | What a PR disaster: http://tinyogg.com/watch/402XK/ | May 20 00:07 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I thought this channel didn't really get used anymore? | May 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | There are 3 channels | May 20 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | Creationist trolls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=837h-Cxls1A | May 20 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5DiJ_Z6-ic Substitute "Muhammad" with "Mono" | May 20 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/toshok/statuses/71457591695392768 | May 20 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot | @toshok: techrights.org crashed chrome. they hate the open web. | May 20 09:31 |
| MinceR | chrome crashes on its own just fine | May 20 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Now the mono trolls take it to usenet, too http://us.generation-nt.com/something-wrong-techrights-help-203398002.html | May 20 09:34 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Something is wrong with Techrights, help, FAQ, forums, question, answer, advice, opinion and howto for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X .::. Size~: 23.33 KB | May 20 09:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: chorme is proprietary | May 20 09:34 |
| schestowitz | no source code for the full thing | May 20 09:35 |
| schestowitz | Another troll/stalker pretends daemonTroll is somehow an example of the site.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/9e57b56ea7de3a9d | May 20 09:36 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The TechRights Credibility Problem. - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 57.79 KB | May 20 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Also harassing Tim.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/122afcf9066b9239# http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/db97dddee91fdc3d# | May 20 09:37 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f5a397a477aa59a0# | May 20 09:38 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Is flatfish+++ doing PR (or shilling) for Roy's site again? | May 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise, I'd never be tempted to go there. Just not interested. | May 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | " | May 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't realise the worst he can do is just ignore | May 20 09:39 |
| schestowitz | I've not even posted in this newsgroup for almost a year | May 20 09:39 |
| schestowitz | " | May 20 09:40 |
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| schestowitz | 2. Goblin | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | View profile | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | More options May 19, 6:59 pm | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | From: Goblin <bytes4f...@googlemail.com> | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:59:37 +0100 | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Local: Thurs, May 19 2011 6:59 pm | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Re: More Examples Of The "Fine" People At TechRights.org | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Print | Individual message | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | On 19/05/11 10:19, flatfish+++ wrote: | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-techrights-1... | May 20 09:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC I've also driven drunk, and stoned across great distances May | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > 18 21:32 | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC I do a lot of bad things when I am not taking my medication May | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > 18 21:33 | May 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > DaemonFC and they all seem to make sense at the time May 18 21:33 | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | And you fail to mention (since you trawl the logs) Where I challenge him | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | on irresponsible behaviour. | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | For the benefit of this thread, DaemonFC used to be a Microsoft MVP, so | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | if we want to draw inference, we could go there. | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | -- | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Openbytes the Linux/FOSS Blogazine! - http://www.openbytes.tk | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | "Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui." | May 20 09:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: openbytes.tk .::. Size~: 0.4 KB | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Catch me in #techrights on freenode.net | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | BytesMedia: www.bytesmedia.co.uk | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Email: bytes4f...@googlemail.com | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Skype: tim.openbytes | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Twitter: twitter.com/_goblin | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Identi.ca: identi.ca/openbytes | May 20 09:41 |
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| schestowitz | You must Sign in before you can post messages. | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | To post a message you must first join this group. | May 20 09:41 |
| MinceR | next on usenet: "techrights is run by ms mvps!" | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting. | May 20 09:41 |
| MinceR | :> | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | You do not have the permission required to post. | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | " | May 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/565c1ebcc5597d85# | May 20 09:41 |
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| schestowitz | He tries to describe a trolling Microsoft MVP as the Linux side | May 20 09:42 |
| schestowitz | "I like Linux, but... | May 20 09:42 |
| schestowitz | "I'm actually a Linux user..." | May 20 09:42 |
| schestowitz | They're really hitting hard today (the trolls): http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/914994ed945db47a# | May 20 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | Tim must be enjoying the attention http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/81b96ef88b71a955# http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/47a25f6137f1b5a6# | May 20 09:44 |
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| schestowitz | What a mess. Like 50% of the newsgroup is now about techrights... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/193b2872f87547d0# | May 20 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/topics?lnk=srg | May 20 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Discussions - comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 61.44 KB | May 20 09:46 |
| MinceR | you get free advertisement ;) | May 20 09:47 |
| schestowitz | Another lie: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f8936188e3ef103c# | May 20 09:48 |
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| schestowitz | the trolls friends tries to can and even though I replied with scepticism he inistd strongly | May 20 09:48 |
| schestowitz | And now they try to use thier prank | May 20 09:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's something like that | May 20 09:48 |
| schestowitz | They only get more people to follow techrights, not the opposite | May 20 09:49 |
| schestowitz | They also 'advertise' Tim's blog.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d208cf58648837f7# | May 20 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/9e57b56ea7de3a9d# | May 20 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | " Communist Manifesto @CommManifesto is now following you (@schestowitz). " 0_0 | May 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | At first I thought, Brandon? | May 20 09:51 |
| MinceR | another troll2070 account | May 20 09:52 |
| MinceR | :> | May 20 09:52 |
| schestowitz | he got in trouble with the police | May 20 09:52 |
| schestowitz | hate speech | May 20 09:52 |
| MinceR | against whom? | May 20 09:52 |
| schestowitz | He must have said something infuriating, he doesn't say what | May 20 09:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: he didn't say | May 20 09:53 |
| schestowitz | If it was a minor thing, I reckon he's say something like, "I only said X, and they already make a big fuss out of it" | May 20 09:53 |
| MinceR | "hate speech" is kind of like that :> | May 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | 8 speech | May 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | HeyT speech | May 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Hate spinach ... yummy | May 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/71490537173172224 | May 20 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz The first client that does that wins it all. They will start the mass exodus from #Skype to #SIP | May 20 09:55 |
| schestowitz | I've already told some people that to speak with me on phone/Net they'll need one of the apps from <list> | May 20 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Unless I'm missing the joke, this one sucks http://xkcd.com/901/ | May 20 09:58 |
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| MinceR | he mistook a pregnancy test for a thermometer | May 20 09:59 |
| schestowitz | So he didn't use a thermometer... | May 20 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know. | May 20 09:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ciol.com/Developer/Open-Source/News-Reports/Red-Hat-intros-PaaS-for-open-source-developers/150151/0/ | May 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Pus? | May 20 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Developer: Red Hat intros PaaS for open source developers - CIOL News Reports .::. Size~: 77.54 KB | May 20 10:17 |
| MinceR | i'll PasS | May 20 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Want a plaster for that? | May 20 10:22 |
| MinceR | nope | May 20 10:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/71362020825509888 | May 20 10:37 |
| TechrightsBot | @rcweir: Portrait [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/HHXTs | May 20 10:37 |
| schestowitz | "@rcweir who's she?" | May 20 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | [09:50] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jewish community granted injunction blocking all anti-Semitic Google search suggestions - http://tnw.co/j6afNl and if every group did it? | May 20 10:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Jewish community granted injunction blocking all anti-Semitic Google search suggestions - Google .::. Size~: 80.08 KB | May 20 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Over-privileged much... | May 20 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Google censorship | May 20 10:42 |
| schestowitz | '"A month ago we read a Eulogy for Groklaw, but now PJ has announced that Groklaw will not be shutting down. Instead, it is now Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0. If you don't know who he is, Webbink is a member of the board of the SFLC and was General Counsel at Red Hat. Legal FOSS news will continue to flow."' | May 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Now her haters will say she pulled a publicity stunt because she is still posting daily in News Picks, more than before. | May 20 11:11 |
| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/05/17/0230248/Groklaw-Torch-Handed-To-Mark-Webbink | May 20 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/71515075822891008 | May 20 11:12 |
| TechrightsBot | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz You are so wrong. Next year *will* be the year of the #Windows desktop! | May 20 11:12 |
| oiaohm | Next year most likely the year of the Final battles of the Unix war. | May 20 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Apple too? | May 20 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Hmm.. didn't realise that Tom Callaway works for Red Hat now http://www.postgresql.org/about/news.515 http://lwn.net/Articles/443472/ | May 20 11:25 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: what gnome is doing is most likely only the start of what I see coming. | May 20 11:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the talk of ending the idea of cross platform solutions that have never worked right in the complete unix history. | May 20 11:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so freebsd and others will have to fight for their place in the envorment. | May 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | oh, *that* war... | May 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-says-intel-exec-was-wrong-about-windows-8-2011-5?op=1 | May 20 11:33 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | May 20 11:33 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft booster | May 20 11:33 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: yes the war that has been running for longer than my life time. | May 20 11:33 |
| schestowitz | '"No further details or information" means that Microsoft won't say exactly which parts of James's statements were inaccurate. The part about legacy apps? The part about four versions of Windows for ARM? Both? Expect Microsoft to explain itself more fully at its September conference for developers.' | May 20 11:33 |
| MinceR | i doubt it's a good idea to break abstraction layers just to win a supposed "war" on other unixes | May 20 11:35 |
| MinceR | not that they relied on gnome that much... | May 20 11:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Really the issue is the abstraction layers have been used to prevent progress on tech like jails and cgroups. | May 20 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: At some point in time the abstraction layers in the way of progress had to end. | May 20 11:41 |
| oiaohm | And the true feature battle start. | May 20 11:41 |
| MinceR | can't they make those optional? | May 20 11:55 |
| oiaohm | To use cgroups and jails items like hald cannot remain. MinceR | May 20 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Since hald items like hald will provide cross link issues. | May 20 11:58 |
| MinceR | gnome mostly works without hald, doesn't it? | May 20 11:59 |
| MinceR | hald is just another abstraction layer anyway | May 20 11:59 |
| oiaohm | hald is a service. | May 20 11:59 |
| oiaohm | Not just an abstraction layer. | May 20 11:59 |
| MinceR | as far as i know, it's both | May 20 11:59 |
| MinceR | it provides a way to manipulate certain hardware devices | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Really | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | The issue is that it is not what you think it is. | May 20 12:00 |
| MinceR | abstracting OS internals from its clients | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | its a double abstraction layer. | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | you have an abstracted layer to talk to hald | May 20 12:00 |
| MinceR | (how to detect storage devices, how to mount/umount them among others) | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Then hald contains a abstraction layer to talk to the OS. | May 20 12:00 |
| oiaohm | So Yes call to hald then hald does the operation. | May 20 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Very god darn messy. | May 20 12:01 |
| oiaohm | Problem is hald design dates to the time when Unix's only had static linked binaries. MinceR | May 20 12:02 |
| oiaohm | Most of what hald does should be done by dynamically loading .so files. MinceR | May 20 12:04 |
| MinceR | i thought it was a lot newer than that | May 20 12:04 |
| oiaohm | hald can into existance in the early days of X11 servers. | May 20 12:05 |
| oiaohm | So yes historic bit of nightmare. | May 20 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Freedesktop picked it up many years latter because it was so dominate. | May 20 12:05 |
| oiaohm | That was really a mistake. | May 20 12:05 |
| oiaohm | hald is not the only really old Unix bit of design that needs to disappear for good. | May 20 12:06 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73953528 | May 20 12:06 |
| TechrightsBot | @Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Friday, 20-May-11 11:01:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz what is unexpected about that? ;-) | May 20 12:06 |
| oiaohm | But in the process of them disappearing lot of unstablity will happen. | May 20 12:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: x is good | May 20 12:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a bit of a resource hog sometimes | May 20 12:06 |
| oiaohm | Thinking most applications don't use X11 renderign any more. | May 20 12:07 |
| oiaohm | But using opengl. | May 20 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Its kinda become not important. | May 20 12:07 |
| schestowitz | the problem is where you have mobile devices | May 20 12:07 |
| oiaohm | wayland and other alterations also go a long way to starting to address some of the secuirty issues as well. | May 20 12:07 |
| schestowitz | there was one ages ago | May 20 12:08 |
| schestowitz | !google x server point flaw | May 20 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot | [1] - Vulnerability in Apple's CoreGraphics Discovered by Check Point ... | http://www.checkpoint.com/defense/advisories/public/announcement/2010/090110-apple-core-graphics-vulnerability.html | May 20 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot | [2] - IEEE 802.1X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1X | May 20 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot | [3] - PPTP Server Configuration - DD-WRT Wiki | http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/PPTP_Server_Configuration | May 20 12:08 |
| TechrightsBot | [4] - An ancient kernel hole is closed [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/400746/ | May 20 12:08 |
| schestowitz | or maybe it was a conditional statement | May 20 12:08 |
| schestowitz | Something with missing bracket or bad condition | May 20 12:08 |
| schestowitz | years ago | May 20 12:08 |
| schestowitz | security-wise X has been calm for ages | May 20 12:08 |
| oiaohm | http://lwn.net/Articles/400746/ Your search fond it. schestowitz | May 20 12:09 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: An ancient kernel hole is closed [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 102.31 KB | May 20 12:09 |
| oiaohm | 2010 there was one. | May 20 12:09 |
| oiaohm | There has been some in 2011. | May 20 12:09 |
| oiaohm | The time of clearing house is here. | May 20 12:09 |
| oiaohm | So we are going to see more and more hostilities. | May 20 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Like some of the system v supportters coming out the wood work to try to stop systemd being taken up. | May 20 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73945623 | May 20 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 20-May-11 09:46:26 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux #Kernel 2.6.39 Officially Released http://is.gd/kzS09w | May 20 12:11 |
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| oiaohm | Since all this means ends of what a lot know. | May 20 12:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: yes its annoying the kernelnewbies report for 2.6.39 is not up yet. | May 20 12:12 |
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