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| sebsebseb | Hey oiaohm | May 21 08:37 |
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| schestowitz | hello | May 21 08:37 |
| sebsebseb | uh thought this was social | May 21 08:38 |
| oiaohm | Hi sebsebseb | May 21 08:40 |
| sebsebseb | What you been up to? | May 21 08:40 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: Good for Google and shame on the newspapers for ruining everything. Go to the link and search for Caldera v. Microsoft and pick 1998 on the chart. Look what these newspapers want to charge you to read an article that didn't cost even half that if anything at all at the time. Deseret News wants $2.95 to read one single article. Imagine you are some not exactly rich researcher and you are trying to find out what happened to | May 21 08:57 |
| schestowitz | write a book. You can't afford to do it. And the Chicago Tribune wants $3.95 for its article, which you can read for 90 days max, or amazingly enough $359.95 for a year's pass to read anything for 90 days. They call it Pay-per-View. And Google did the digitization for them.]" | May 21 08:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/71887035224424448 | May 21 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @fcassia: @schestowitz well, the ISDB-Tb set top boxes used down here in .AR run Linux. And Brazilian ones got Java, as well. Google Ginga and Ginga-J | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/chrisek/statuses/71886573301530624 | May 21 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @chrisek: @schestowitz wqting for end of the world? | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/71881421815427072 | May 21 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I don't know any Windows-based browsers that's not free of charge. Do you? | May 21 17:50 |
| schestowitz | heckler | May 21 17:50 |
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| abeNd-org | well, are there any of the popular browsers on win/lin/mac that charge? only the mobile platforms charge for some of the browsers, and at that on android/webos (not even sure if someone bothered to port other browsers to winmob, and i remember opera being free on bb/palmos) | May 21 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Some of out client's servers (my company in London) appear to lack commonly used binaries such as lsof, logrotate, and syslog, which makes them counter-intuitive to work with (depending on where one comes from). | May 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | VERY annoying | May 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Just spent over an hour on this | May 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | syslog is restarted with the command '/etc/init.d/syslog reload' and the script /work/scripts/voip/syslogd.pl is apparently out of date, so it oughtn't be used. | May 21 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | I had to type in 'ps aux | grep syslog' to see if syslogd is active and see if several log files in /var/log/ are actually being written to (in doubt). | May 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | What a fragmentation | May 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Different distros, different story | May 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | same with sudo du, etc | May 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | CentOS vs Debian mainlu | May 21 19:46 |
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| schestowitz | Sucky weather the next few days | May 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | After a wonderful April :-( | May 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9 | May 21 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BBC Weather | Manchester .::. Size~: 61.29 KB | May 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: new record with BT | May 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | About 2 weeks now without a single glitch/downtime | May 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe UK broadband catches up with Romania and HUngary :> | May 21 19:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh | May 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | used to lose connection at least once a week | May 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Which causes me great troubles | May 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | All my SSH connections (work, techrights, university) are dropped | May 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Inc. some active windows | May 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | And IRC logs have missing bits I have to fill in from backup | May 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | So each downtime -- however short -- can cost me in lost work and ~20 minutes lost time to recuperate | May 21 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Same if I have to restart KDE | May 21 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Which i may have to do after 2 months because of the ugly notification balloons I get following a plasma-desktop crash | May 21 19:56 |
| schestowitz | do you know anything about http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=thunderbird+3.2&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 ? | May 21 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: thunderbird 3.2 - Google Search .::. Size~: 82.33 KB | May 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Not much info about its development out there | May 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | And canonical might include it in the future by default | May 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | it's in PPAs now | May 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | 3.1 | May 21 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nope don'tk now much about that, but I know that Thunderbird may be default for 11.10 | May 21 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | also all this chat woudn't it be better in #boycottnovell-social relaly? | May 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ which thunderbird | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | /usr/bin/thunderbird | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ ls -la /usr/bin/thunderbird | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2011-05-21 20:05 /usr/bin/thunderbird -> ../lib/thunderbird-3.1.10/thunderbird.sh | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: doesn't matter much which channel | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | They're both a little OT after Novell died | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I got ZERO results for NOVL | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | In my RSS feeds | May 21 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Which is odd | May 21 20:09 |
| schestowitz | After so many years | May 21 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Because NOVL is gone | May 21 20:09 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ cat /home/roy/Main/Programs/Scripts/Definitions/xbindkeysrc+ | May 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | "thunderbird &" | May 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | control+alt+0 | May 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | :-D | May 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Compatible plugin scare | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I hope it goes well | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Many not comaptible | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Even almost a year after release | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | That's what I don't like about jumping on latest releaases from Mozilla | May 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | testing enigmail thunderbird 3.1 (just upgraded as plugins seem mostly compatible) | May 21 20:14 |
| schestowitz | LOL adblock has a slogan | May 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | In plugins dashboard | May 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "Ads were yesterday!" | May 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, some nice plugins I have no longer work | May 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the devs abandoned maintenance | May 21 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I could maybe force compat with a text editor.. | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | But risk breaking the whole shebang... | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Hm... it's *Still* a resource big | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | *pig | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/3.1/releasenotes/ | May 21 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Mozilla Thunderbird 3.1 Release Notes .::. Size~: 32.38 KB | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Nothing substantial improved | May 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Just nip-tuck | May 21 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | ok, happy with the upgrade. encryption works too | May 21 20:25 |
| schestowitz | friend mailed back an AKC | May 21 20:26 |
| schestowitz | ACK | May 21 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | testing: | May 21 20:27 |
| schestowitz | ping schestowitz | May 21 20:27 |
| schestowitz | can anyone pls highlight my name? I am testing something | May 21 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: hi | May 21 20:28 |
| schestowitz | can you type my username? | May 21 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I am testing notifications | May 21 20:28 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: | May 21 20:28 |
| schestowitz | got tired of people over-highlighting it | May 21 20:29 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: | May 21 20:29 |
| schestowitz | seb in particular | May 21 20:29 |
| gnufreex | lol | May 21 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I can say it now cause he's away | May 21 20:29 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: thanks, it works | May 21 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I get just text highlights, no balloons | May 21 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I try to get away from IRC and focus on something | May 21 20:30 |
| schestowitz | and then someone like Forbes or Seb highlight just to say "hi" (or nothing in seb's case) | May 21 20:30 |
| schestowitz | well, maybe a whitespace :-) but anyway, people have told him for about a year to highlight people less often | May 21 20:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <DaemonFC> lets ask a Brit | May 21 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <DaemonFC> schestowitz? :) | May 21 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Now I catch up with 2 hours of logs. Ryan highlighted me with a balloon for no reason, so I had to disable it | May 21 20:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: did you see MS Press interviewing de Icaza about Trojarin? They are still grooming him | May 21 20:33 |
| gnufreex | Didn't see | May 21 20:33 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I am off with news and stuff | May 21 20:33 |
| schestowitz | I am writing an article about it | May 21 20:33 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: temporarily or permanently? | May 21 20:33 |
| gnufreex | temporarily | May 21 20:33 |
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