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qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/05/02/2223239/Assange-Facebook-the-Most-Appalling-Spy-Machine-EverMay 03 01:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Assange: Facebook 'the Most Appalling Spy Machine' Ever - Slashdot .::. Size~: 124.91 KBMay 03 01:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: as anyone can figure out with brief reflection :)May 03 01:01
schestowitzyeahMay 03 01:36
schestowitzInterfaces for spying accessMay 03 01:39
schestowitzAs predictedMay 03 01:40
schestowitzHe explains it wellMay 03 01:40
schestowitzDone. Good interview, useful for future reference. Ta.May 03 01:42
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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010May 03 12:13
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72582821May 03 21:21
TechrightsBot-sc@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 17:36:38 UTC - Identi.ca: #Broadcom Crystal HD Improvements Under #Linux http://is.gd/5Dzcw8 yes, even BroadcomMay 03 21:21
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: [Phoronix] Broadcom Crystal HD Improvements Under Linux .::. Size~: 15.78 KBMay 03 21:21
schestowitzRe: What RIM next NOKIA???May 03 21:22
schestowitz> Help RIM!!!!!!!!May 03 21:22
schestowitz> http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal-tech/smart-phones/229402660?cid=RSSfeed_IWK_NewsMay 03 21:22
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Microsoft Upstages RIM At BlackBerry World -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 111.62 KBMay 03 21:22
schestowitzAFAIK it's not about the OSMay 03 21:22
schestowitzJust more stuff about search and stuff MS pays them forMay 03 21:22
schestowitzhttp://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/05/attachmate-lays-off-mono-emplo.htmlMay 03 21:22
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Attachmate lays off Mono employees - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 117.93 KBMay 03 21:22
MinceRnot about the OS ...yetMay 03 21:22
MinceRor at least they don't admit it yetMay 03 21:23
MinceRbut if RIM is stupid enough to make this deal with them then they'll probably be stupid enough to allow .net infection onto their phonesMay 03 21:23
schestowitzyeahMay 03 21:24
schestowitzcause RIM's OS sucksMay 03 21:24
schestowitzLooks like Microsoft is pulling a wise trickMay 03 21:24
schestowitzTrying to grab together all of Linux/UNIX rivals and attack jointlyMay 03 21:25
schestowitzBut...May 03 21:25
schestowitzThey still can't have one decent platformMay 03 21:25
schestowitzYou can't mix several to make one that's betterMay 03 21:25
MinceRmore like flail around wildly, smothering the rivals of LinuxMay 03 21:25
MinceR:>May 03 21:25
schestowitzBut..May 03 21:25
schestowitzHere's the fun partMay 03 21:25
schestowitzMicrosoft pays all all these dealsMay 03 21:25
schestowitzWhich will failMay 03 21:25
schestowitzThey tried juyst WP7May 03 21:25
schestowitzIt failedMay 03 21:25
schestowitzThen they hijack NokiaMay 03 21:25
schestowitzWon't workMay 03 21:25
schestowitzThat's why they also use swpats lawsuitsMay 03 21:26
schestowitzI shouldn't blog the RIM thingMay 03 21:26
schestowitzI reckon it'll blow over and be just Microsoft paying them to avoid GoogleMay 03 21:26
schestowitzand watch carefully if they plant moles in RIMMay 03 21:26
schestowitzBut I don't follow RIM, one has to watch RIM JOBS to know if they rim up a Microsoft execMay 03 21:26
schestowitzmaybe some high-level hireMay 03 21:27
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MinceRi used to feel sorry for nokiaMay 03 21:28
MinceRi thought they had their shit togetherMay 03 21:28
MinceRthen i realized what a POS my N97 isMay 03 21:28
MinceReven now i'm struggling with trying to get the damn thing to start chargingMay 03 21:29
schestowitzphone key functionality same as 15 years agoMay 03 21:30
schestowitzWhen I used those things I would just want to recharge the least (no fancy backlight) and hold a call wellMay 03 21:31
MinceRmy phone's key functionality mostly didn't exist 15 years agoMay 03 21:31
schestowitzThese days the dock is muchly needed as people treat the thing as something that it does not have to be: a computerMay 03 21:31
schestowitzMinceR: what functionality? diary?May 03 21:31
schestowitzthen it's a PDA, I'd say. I still carry oneMay 03 21:32
schestowitzIn fact, I'll start taking the keyboard to the gym I decided todayMay 03 21:32
schestowitzThere's usually almost nobody there when I come in (before lunchtime)May 03 21:32
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MinceRdiary, music player, clock, calculator, satellite navigation system, flashlight, step counter, ebook reader, camera, etc.May 03 21:33
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schestowitzpda has lots of the same stuffMay 03 21:54
schestowitzmine does that and it's from 2004May 03 21:54
schestowitzit doesn't have built-in cam though, need to get SD-based on Universal Conector-based oneMay 03 21:54
schestowitzConnectorMay 03 21:54
schestowitzAnd for some stuff it needs to have bluetooth within rangeMay 03 21:55
schestowitzMono Development Canned http://techrights.org/2011/05/03/mono-developers-laid-off/May 03 21:55
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Mono Development Canned | Techrights .::. Size~: 78.96 KBMay 03 21:55
schestowitzVictory againMay 03 21:55
schestowitzTechrights is achieving many goals these daysMay 03 21:55
MinceR2004 isn't 15 years ago :>May 03 21:55
schestowitzMinceR: trueMay 03 21:55
schestowitzBut..May 03 21:56
schestowitzI still have an old Casio PDA of sortsMay 03 21:56
schestowitzFrom around 1992May 03 21:56
schestowitzMaybe earlierMay 03 21:56
schestowitzAnd it can store text and has keyboard of small sizeMay 03 21:56
MinceRdoes it still work?May 03 21:56
schestowitzSimilar to some devices we see todayMay 03 21:56
schestowitzMinceR: I think it doesMay 03 21:56
schestowitzNeeds big flat batteriesMay 03 21:56
schestowitzExpensiveMay 03 21:57
MinceRwell, that easily beats dies-in-13-months Palm :>May 03 21:57
schestowitzIt might even be valuable as memorabilia one dayMay 03 21:57
schestowitzBut it didn't have cult followingMay 03 21:57
schestowitzIf you have a packaged Lisa somewhere, some Mac cultist with more money than brains (there are many of those) is likely to pay top bucksMay 03 21:58
MinceRi thought Palms were pretty highly regardedMay 03 21:58
schestowitzI still have a M130 which worksMay 03 21:59
schestowitzSort ofMay 03 21:59
schestowitzIt doesn't work too wellMay 03 21:59
schestowitzNow they might get tainted by Apotheker/HP smellMay 03 21:59
MinceRi'm more interested in MeeGo and Android devices nowMay 03 22:00
schestowitz"@goforbes28  had a chance to edit http://is.gd/aixiQp ?"May 03 22:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: How Windows is used to suppress activists - Techrights .::. Size~: 16.73 KBMay 03 22:05
schestowitzMinceR: LG seems to embrace meego for phones.. maybeMay 03 22:06
schestowitzBut they pay Microsoft for LinuxMay 03 22:06
MinceRwe'll seeMay 03 22:06
*MinceR wishes there was a transcript of TechBytesMay 03 22:12
MinceRit's very hard to understandMay 03 22:12
sebsebsebMinceR: hard to understand how so?May 03 22:13
sebsebsebsometimes they babble to much, and don't exactly take everything inMay 03 22:13
MinceRlow quality, lots of distortionMay 03 22:13
MinceRlow sampling rate, low bitrateMay 03 22:14
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sebsebsebMinceR: one of the episodes I listended to not very long ago,  for some of it, the voices were completly messed up, but that made it more interesting to listen to :)May 03 22:15
MinceR:>May 03 22:15
sebsebsebMinceR: episdoe 33 or 34 or something like that I guess it wasMay 03 22:16
MinceRturning up the volume helps somewhatMay 03 22:16
sebsebsebMinceR: heh and there I thought I was providing constructive negative feedback,  this is even better :DMay 03 22:16
MinceRalso, Roy's voice is drowned in reverb or echo or whateverMay 03 22:18
sebsebsebMinceR: Roy's voice is useually the worst to listen toMay 03 22:18
sebsebsebalways been like that though :DMay 03 22:19
schestowitzMinceR: which file version? We improved it a bit recentlyMay 03 22:19
schestowitzMinceR: I have a crap micMay 03 22:19
Ender_nothomeroy has that kermit the frog sound going onMay 03 22:19
MinceRi've tried the Vorbis version and the high-quality mp3 version of episode 40May 03 22:19
MinceRi couldn't tell much of a difference between themMay 03 22:19
schestowitzEnder_nothome: thanks, I guess...May 03 22:19
MinceREnder_nothome: nasal?May 03 22:19
Ender_nothomeyeaMay 03 22:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: I need to buy a mic, so I can chat on Techbytes, plus I would try paltalk again even if it's around still I guess with it at some stage or whatever.  Anyway can you recommend a good mic maybe?May 03 22:19
MinceRindeedMay 03 22:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: I tried 3 onlyMay 03 22:20
schestowitzthe recording is at about 16kMay 03 22:20
schestowitzso oversampling adds nothing of useMay 03 22:20
schestowitzExcept when we play musicMay 03 22:21
schestowitzThat's why SIP would be betterMay 03 22:21
MinceRicMay 03 22:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/65522432437518336May 03 22:21
TechrightsBot-sc@CajunTechie: @schestowitz So does this mean #Mono is dead? Since AM owns the tech, is it buried now?May 03 22:21
schestowitzI wish we knew...May 03 22:21
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