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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Grr lsot connection and so ^ both chans | May 05 02:06 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: must read-- http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-real-housewives-of-wall-street-look-whos-cashing-in-on-the-bailout-20110411?print=true | May 05 03:21 |
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| schestowitz | mono booster now quiet just yet. http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/65937113845202945 http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/65936687250931712 http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/65932428916699136 well, mono has died, they won't last for long | May 05 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: @verofakto in tomorrow's logs, Roy will bemoan how I "smear" techrights by quoting from IRC. Which is the official place for discussion. | May 05 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @verofakto: @directhex I am shocked. On my techrights?? Shocked, I tell you. | May 05 08:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @directhex: I'm sure you can imagine what a classy place #techrights IRC has been. Hint: comparing @migueldeicaza to Bin Laden. | May 05 08:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.directoryinventor.com/inventor/4e6957a7ae45d335f53bce424b25391f_1.html Linus Torvalds | May 05 09:08 |
| schestowitz | Yikes | May 05 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linus Torvalds - Patent Portfolio, Page 1 .::. Size~: 29.55 KB | May 05 09:08 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/66023384043098113 | May 05 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @m4n1sh: @directhex @verofakto They have even declared the age above you are competent enough to contribute to Open Source http://goo.gl/yZ3Ju | May 05 09:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/66023674188283904 | May 05 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @m4n1sh: @verofakto Here is the gem - http://goo.gl/pUJwO | May 05 09:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Sony needs to accept that they no longer own and control the PS3 when they sell it to you. Notice it's only PSN that gave away all your personal data, not Xbox Live when the 360 was hacked, not iTunes when the iPhone was jailbroken, and not GMail when Android was rooted. Because other companies aren't crazy." | May 05 10:24 |
| schestowitz | http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/2011/04/recent-news.html | May 05 10:24 |
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| MinceR | or other companies got lucky :> | May 05 10:25 |
| MinceR | or they didn't get some people so pissed off at them to want them break in :> | May 05 10:25 |
| MinceR | s/them b/to b/ | May 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72712770 | May 05 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 09:04:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Okay, ty. I will have another go. 2 x I have had source can't be read 1/2 way through. | May 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | http://socialmediatoday.com/bradfriedman/290930/lawyers-use-google-help-pick-jurors | May 05 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | /google/search engine/? | May 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Gore & Apple cult http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8484268/Al-Gore-joins-ex-Apple-engineers-to-reinvent-the-e-book.html | May 05 10:40 |
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| MinceR | gore decides to go back to useless endeavors again? | May 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: I told you I thought it was just a bug, not intentional, from what I saw in my research. One thing Apple has a good record on is privacy.]" | May 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday ^^ | May 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 05 11:31 |
| MinceR | LOL | May 05 11:31 |
| MinceR | PJ back to crApple apologism again? | May 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | !google apple privacy violations | May 05 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Apple Sued Over App Privacy Violations | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/28/apple-privacy-lawsuit_n_802058.html | May 05 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Apple hit with another suit alleging privacy violations | Phones ... | http://www.macworld.com/article/157575/2011/02/apple_privacy_suit.html | May 05 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Apple Hit With Another Suit Alleging Privacy Violations | PCWorld ... | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/218351/apple_hit_with_another_suit_alleging_privacy_violations.html | May 05 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - [H]ard|OCP - Apple Hit With Another Suit Alleging Privacy Violations | http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/02/01/apple_hit_another_suit_alleging_privacy_violations | May 05 11:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: one last blast before Groklaw goes into static mode | May 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | I already told her it's futile | May 05 11:32 |
| MinceR | or it will be full-on crApple hype from now on | May 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | Posting stuff about how hypePad is all great... | May 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | No point to it | May 05 11:32 |
| MinceR | "SCO is dead, finally we can focus on advertising crApple!" | May 05 11:32 |
| schestowitz | It takes away from the good work she has done teaching lawyers about FOSS | May 05 11:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 05 11:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: great comedy (new): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMYIl5b-paY | May 05 12:18 |
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| schestowitz | > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Collections/OpenSSH | May 05 12:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | May 05 12:49 |
| schestowitz | It is very well put together. Bookmarking and adding to daily links. | May 05 12:49 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's weird, you talk about pj's pro-apple posts but i don't remember seeing one in the 8 years i've been reading GL. got a cite ? | May 05 13:11 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: there were a few. PJ mostly netural. PJ has basically done some pro for a lot of different parties normally that would be hated. | May 05 13:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: yes, i've heard people mention them, just don't remember seeing one. | May 05 13:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | what are those other parties? | May 05 13:12 |
| oiaohm | qu1j0t3: It was normally when apple was being attacked by patent trolls. | May 05 13:13 |
| oiaohm | Same with other parties. | May 05 13:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | eh? | May 05 13:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, | May 05 13:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz was referring to posts praising apple products. | May 05 13:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | where are these? | May 05 13:13 |
| oiaohm | PJ did have a apple laptop and a few other things. But I really did not count that. Since it was a true case of buying and using. | May 05 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Ie not given or bribed. | May 05 13:14 |
| oiaohm | But was a little lack of due care by PJ but everyone is entiled to a few human errors. | May 05 13:15 |
| MinceR | there's this constant stream of side comments like "omg omg hypePhone is soooo innovative" | May 05 13:16 |
| MinceR | and "crApple has such a great record on privacy" | May 05 13:16 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: To be correct Apple did have a great record on privacy until they got caught doing the wrong thing with the iphone. | May 05 13:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: where are these comments? can anyone cite one? | May 05 13:20 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: they're randomly scattered on the site | May 05 13:21 |
| MinceR | i can't be arsed to find them now | May 05 13:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, i'd be interested to see one. | May 05 13:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have seen a lot like I find here. http://lifessimplelittlepleasures.ie/index.php/bits-pieces/groklaw-news-picks/ Problem is I am not exactly sure if this is the real groklaw PJ Never find matching stuff on groklaw itself. | May 05 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Groklaw News Picks | Life's simple little pleasures .::. Size~: 38.61 KB | May 05 13:29 |
| schestowitz | news picks is where the ads are | May 05 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Not posts | May 05 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Posts on psystar are not the ads | May 05 13:39 |
| schestowitz | that's defence of Apple | May 05 13:39 |
| schestowitz | but not ads | May 05 13:39 |
| schestowitz | she says she just objectively writes about it, so I said, why bother defending a company worth a third of a trillion? | May 05 13:40 |
| schestowitz | She should defend FOSS | May 05 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110414184224418&title=Designated+place+to+discuss&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=915115#c915142 "Tech Rights comes fairly close with article coverage. It covers a much broader range of topics, though. " | May 05 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | "Techrights discusses Freedom issues." http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20110411195227234&title=I+believe+PJ+had+made+a+decision+not+to+endorse+anyone&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=914522#c914758 | May 05 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | some troll links to http://identi.ca/notice/72658056 | May 05 14:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @gnufreex's status on Wednesday, 04-May-11 15:53:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @clacke And that is why people (me included) are happy that mono guys are fired: mono evang. is not going to be profesionall job anymore. | May 05 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Saying it's our position or something | May 05 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I already explained TR's position is not some text of people who hang out in IRC | May 05 14:14 |
| MinceR | the trolls probably suffer from reading comprehension issues | May 05 14:15 |
| schestowitz | No, they just have dirt-digging withdrawal symptom | May 05 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's bullies are effective... | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:08] < > hi roy | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:09] < > I have a personal issue to discuss with you, in private | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:09] < > I would use Skype, but I'm unable to do that now | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:10] < > As as I said, this is [...] motivated mostly by crippling fear | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:10] < > How are you today? | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:13] < > I know you dislike private text conversations on the IRC at least | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:14] < > but this is an extremely personal issue, and sharing it on IRC would be self-defeating | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:18] < > it's about my fear for my future roy, if I continue to post at Techrights | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz |  | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:18] < > If you want, we could use a different medium, like Jabber or something | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:19] < > But what about people like the Microsoft Munchkins? | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz |  | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:20] < > ok, I have an opportunity to go on skype, one sec | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | See what the Mono maniacs do? | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it's self-defeating | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | In fact, it just helps show the extent of the corruption | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Where intimidation of critics proves handy for them | May 05 14:30 |
| schestowitz | They try to paralyse opposition | May 05 14:31 |
| schestowitz | [14:33] < I understand that Roy | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:33] < But at the same time, you are much stronger in this regard than I am | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:33] < You were able to weather the calls to your university and employers trying to smear you | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:34] < I'm only in 1st year | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz |  | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:34] < I guess it was stupid of me to come here with (mostly) my real name | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:34] < My family couldn't handle potential smear calls and threats | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:34] < they aren't set up to even conceive such things | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:35] < No, I will mention Wikileaks in public | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:35] < I will also mention TechRights in public | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:36] < But following this Conservative Majority, and after reading previous attacks upon you and Twitter, I am worried | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:36] < Does this me I would crawl back to Microsoft and purposely forget things? No | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:36] < That isn't what I'm saying | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] < what I'm saying is that I am not strong enough to face the consequences of this | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz |  | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] < I'm not the person who can take attack calls and personal, real-life attacks | May 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | [14:37] < I can stand online attacks, I have before | May 05 14:47 |
| MinceR | perhaps he could build and use strong anonymity | May 05 14:50 |
| schestowitz | It's hard | May 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Esp. if someone is hellbent on unmasking you | May 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | people could unmask you if they tried | May 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Someone your IP address is showing up in IRC for example | May 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | If they have a friend at a .hu ISP they can get your details by making a quick call | May 05 14:57 |
| schestowitz | I believe this is how some people in COLA (USENET) got unmasked and abused) | May 05 14:58 |
| schestowitz | I've seen people unmasked time after time | May 05 14:58 |
| schestowitz | It just takes someone wanting to do that | May 05 14:59 |
| schestowitz | and we had a powwow about it in BN IRC around 2008 with some anon dude | May 05 14:59 |
| MinceR | well, i'm not trying hard | May 05 15:00 |
| MinceR | i could do a lot better than this :> | May 05 15:01 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Collections/OpenSSH | May 05 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | >> It is very well put together. Bookmarking and adding to daily links. | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. If you notice any thing that has been forgotten or needs | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | > clarification (except for certificates) I'd be grateful for feedback. | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Usually I keep a list of commands around, this one is more comprehensive. | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: TOR? | May 05 15:02 |
| MinceR | not just Tor | May 05 15:02 |
| MinceR | it can be combined with other means | May 05 15:02 |
| schestowitz | One of the mono bullies http://identi.ca/notice/72724411 | May 05 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rclayton's status on Thursday, 05-May-11 12:56:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz oh really? well, perhaps your friend gnufreex didn't get the memo: http://identi.ca/notice/72658056 | May 05 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @gnufreex's status on Wednesday, 04-May-11 15:53:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @clacke And that is why people (me included) are happy that mono guys are fired: mono evang. is not going to be profesionall job anymore. | May 05 15:04 |
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| schestowitz | My colleagues write very messy code | May 05 16:36 |
| schestowitz | And poorly documented | May 05 16:36 |
| schestowitz | And guess what? it makes *me* look bad. | May 05 16:36 |
| schestowitz | "[XXXX] has added a function which was missing and the ICP implementation depended upon. I am still in a position where the code gives many errors and keeps requiring something new every time I mend the probematic bits. This leaves me having to learn all the code rather than just use it by the interfaces (like a black box). For changes that I make to the code to stick I might also require version control accesss at one stage. | May 05 16:36 |
| schestowitz | It's not just a case of rearranging the deck and I cannot keep track of changes that I make. merging manually with diff would be hard if my amendments are conflicting." | May 05 16:36 |
| MinceR | i just had mercurial completely fuck up a rebase | May 05 16:37 |
| MinceR | another day wasted | May 05 16:38 |
| schestowitz | doesn't OOo still use it? | May 05 16:41 |
| MinceR | dunno | May 05 16:41 |
| MinceR | i can tell git is a lot more usable | May 05 16:42 |
| schestowitz | !google mercurial openoffice | May 05 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Mercurial/Getting Started - OpenOffice.org Wiki | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mercurial/Getting_Started | May 05 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Mercurial Pilot - OpenOffice.org Wiki | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mercurial_Pilot | May 05 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - OpenOffice.org Document Version Control With Mercurial : David R ... | http://www.ensode.net/roller/dheffelfinger/entry/openoffice_documents_version_control_with | May 05 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - OpenOffice.org development switches to Mercurial - GullFOSS | http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/openoffice_org_development_switches_to | May 05 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Gurl FOSS... | May 05 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72733935 http://identi.ca/conversation/70365654#notice-72733935 http://identi.ca/notice/72734615 | May 05 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 15:44:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Excommunication | May 05 16:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 05-May-11 15:54:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Scrub that I thought the factory was in the Phillipines. | May 05 16:56 |
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