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schestowitzhttp://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/05/fighting-with-ubuntu-1104-unity.htmlMay 07 00:07
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Linux notes from DarkDuck: Fighting with Ubuntu 11.04 (Unity) .::. Size~: 111.93 KBMay 07 00:07
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72836774May 07 00:18
TechrightsBot-sc@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 06-May-11 23:16:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz didn't they announce that quite a while ago?May 07 00:18
schestowitzI guess soMay 07 00:18
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/72836808May 07 00:20
TechrightsBot-sc@Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 06-May-11 23:18:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz if they are really set against unity and gnome3, will LinuxMint be moving to XFCE, I can't see them maintaining Gnome 2.X aloneMay 07 00:20
schestowitzNo enough mana or monoMay 07 00:20
schestowitz;-)May 07 00:21
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schestowitzhttp://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/05/04/DerekMay 07 11:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · How To Die .::. Size~: 9.06 KBMay 07 11:04
schestowitzA bit morbid to say itMay 07 11:04
schestowitzThe crazy troll is still like a leech on everything we do... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/55be9371984b7684#May 07 12:06
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 41.35 KBMay 07 12:06
schestowitz> The contact information for Ignacio Valdes, MD, MS is this:May 07 14:47
schestowitz> ivaldes@hal-pc.orgMay 07 14:47
schestowitz> http://ignaciovaldes.com/May 07 14:47
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Ignacio Valdes, MD, MS .::. Size~: 8.29 KBMay 07 14:47
schestowitz> Here is the link for Linux Medical News:May 07 14:47
schestowitz> http://linuxmednews.com/May 07 14:47
TechrightsBot-scTitle: GNU/Linux And Open Source Medical Software News .::. Size~: 34.29 KBMay 07 14:47
schestowitzThey are hardly active anymoreMay 07 14:47
oiaohmschestowitz: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/ubb/vga/web/ this is up there with the unexpected.May 07 15:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: UBB-VGA .::. Size~: 2.67 KBMay 07 15:11
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_Goblin:)May 07 23:20
schestowitz[12:37:36] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Thanks for the good show. We'd love to have you on future episodes too if you are able to make it (no preparations needed, we just all show up)May 07 23:20
schestowitz[08:06:47] NA: you all might want to take a lok at the factthat Linux is under hevy fire right now http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txedce/6:2009cv00269/116887/May 07 23:20
schestowitz[10:05:09] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: The Lobby Against #Linux http://techrights.org/2011/04/26/daemonising-linux-w-swpats/  FUD attacks on Linux are increasing, particularly in “patent” flavour. #swpatsMay 07 23:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Bedrock Computer Technologies, LLC v. Softlayer Technologies, Inc. et al :: Justia Dockets & Filings .::. Size~: 491.95 KBMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[01:21:39] NA: And it open souce naatuer makes it an easy targetMay 07 23:20
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The Lobby Against Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.11 KBMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[21:15:49] NA: um awnser burrion not showing upMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[21:16:20] NA: try aginMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:27:27] NA: okMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:27:50] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: thanksMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:28:01] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: looking forward to you joining us in future shows!May 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:28:32] NA: ya just try and let me know a day or to ahead if you can as my scedualy is kayoticMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:28:44] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: will doMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:28:50] NA: always have free time just need to know when to make itMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:28:58] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: nice!May 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:29:57] NA: hope tim is not havving the same ISP issues Phillip has been havingMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:30:12] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: btMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:32:39] NA: somthing to think about down the road is do we want to try and do 2 way colaberationMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:33:23] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yes, definitelyMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:33:36] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: we put a first video episode 2 days agoMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:33:57] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but we mostly do it with <video> and ogg theoraMay 07 23:20
schestowitz[22:34:17] NA: what do you all think of WebMMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:05] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: webm is almost hereMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:11] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Some browsers don't support it yetMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:17] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: ff 4.0 doesMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:18] NA: ogg more universal but not fully but WebM better qualityMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:39] NA: And IE9 via add on and Opera and ChromeMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:35:47] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: in techrights I've put up ogg for 4 years at leastMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:36:09] NA: whos band with you using?May 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:36:14] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: we've had millions of visitors, mostly Linux people who often don't like flash and berate me for using anyMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:36:47] NA: ya one of the reasions I am not doing a live streamMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:37:06] NA: as i am not quie 100% on what i need to do to make the stream WebMMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:37:27] NA: know it can be done just not 100% on what neededMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:37:47] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: youtube will be swapped over to webm soonMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:37:53] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: that'll save me doing ffmpeg stuffMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:37:59] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: our recording is all ogg by defaultMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:38:23] NA: I got the have both hats on hereMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:39:03] NA: I love the open, but I also look at the browser support chart and relise that still need to suport things like MP3 and h.264 and so onMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:39:27] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: yesMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:39:28] NA: unfortunetly not universalMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:39:33] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: but remember what I preachMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:39:54] NA: ya and I prefer thatMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:40:00] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I'd be a hypocrite and be abused if I *required* blobsMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:40:35] NA: part of why I am trying to find some software people to help me make a suite desined to use open sndards and linux instead of hack a solution to workMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:41:34] NA: ya hear youMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:41:53] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: we could learn a lot from youMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:42:08] NA: how soMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:53:13] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: we're new to video productionMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[22:53:48] NA: oh that is a long conversation for a time when we all onMay 07 23:21
schestowitz[23:05:14] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: indeed, I'll copy Tim on thisMay 07 23:21
_Goblin:)May 07 23:21
schestowitzI also don't want some people in main channel to read it, as it cannot be helpfulMay 07 23:22
_Goblincheers for bringing me up to speed....hope my disconnection didn't interupt too badly......Im tethered at the moment stillMay 07 23:22
schestowitzBut just to discuss or make you awareMay 07 23:22
schestowitzAs we really ought to have make this a 3-way discussion as NA saysMay 07 23:22
schestowitzBut that's not possible in IM AFAIKMay 07 23:22
schestowitzThat is why IRC is good despite its ageMay 07 23:22
schestowitzMaybe we can ask NA (Rusty) to join the IRC channel while on the showMay 07 23:23
_Goblinyeah.May 07 23:23
schestowitzMight also help make him aware of our biases/convictions and when D***** goes to bad.May 07 23:23
schestowitz*bedMay 07 23:23
schestowitzOr "too bad"May 07 23:23
schestowitzlike pulling BT wiresMay 07 23:23
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ThistleWebye GodsMay 07 23:24
schestowitzOhMay 07 23:24
schestowitzAnother thingMay 07 23:24
schestowitzso like I was saying, the volume on my side was too lowMay 07 23:24
schestowitzAgainMay 07 23:24
schestowitzLike when we recorded with jono onMay 07 23:24
schestowitzSometimes at my end changes, maybe the s/w versionMay 07 23:24
schestowitzI need to get it sorted outMay 07 23:25
ThistleWebschestowitz: you sounded clearer that usual to meMay 07 23:25
schestowitzI had to manually amplify the bits where I speakMay 07 23:25
_GoblinI think Skype dictates the volume by order of celeb status.... ;)May 07 23:25
schestowitzThistleWeb: goodMay 07 23:25
schestowitzBut I was about 3 times quieter 'on tape'May 07 23:25
schestowitz_Goblin: hehMay 07 23:25
schestowitzMaybeMay 07 23:25
schestowitzMaybe it balances based on somethingMay 07 23:25
schestowitzBut we never had this issue beforeMay 07 23:25
schestowitzWOrks fine for two participantsMay 07 23:25
ThistleWebthe jono interview you were very quoiet (volume wise) thoughMay 07 23:25
schestowitzWhen 3rd one is there I am almost mutedMay 07 23:26
schestowitzThistleWeb: imgaine that I tripled my volumeMay 07 23:26
schestowitzBefore I did this I was unaudibleMay 07 23:26
schestowitz*insudubleMay 07 23:26
schestowitz*inaudibleMay 07 23:26
schestowitzGosh, bad ttyping todayMay 07 23:26
ThistleWebit is hard to get a decent volume withough hissMay 07 23:26
*ThistleWeb blames the applesMay 07 23:27
schestowitzAnd this is my best keyboard :--May 07 23:27
schestowitzOhMay 07 23:27
schestowitzAnother thingMay 07 23:27
schestowitzWho is it that made huge noises a few times? I think rusty banging somethingMay 07 23:27
ThistleWebwasn't meMay 07 23:27
schestowitzIt was extremely distracting, didn't see it was on the wavesMay 07 23:27
ThistleWebI got into a habit of clicking the mute buttonMay 07 23:28
ThistleWebeven when I've been drinkin' like tonightMay 07 23:28
ThistleWebI did notice that tooMay 07 23:28
schestowitz_Goblin: what's the band's name?May 07 23:31
ThistleWebanyhoo, good show tonight, albeit it kinda petered out at the endMay 07 23:31
schestowitzThistleWeb: didn't notice the drinking :-May 07 23:31
_Goblinah,,,,yes, I'll do the didn'tMay 07 23:31
_Goblineh?May 07 23:32
_Goblinsorry....May 07 23:32
_GoblinI'll give the linkMay 07 23:32
schestowitztaMay 07 23:32
_Goblinhttp://www.jamendo.com/en/album/89391May 07 23:32
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Download this album for free: Caught in the Moment - Jamendo .::. Size~: 102.23 KBMay 07 23:32
ThistleWebschestowitz: lol, I may have mentioned the "apple" influence before we recorded, the fact that it wasn't noticeable is concerningMay 07 23:33
schestowitzdoneMay 07 23:33
schestowitzIt's not the apple part which has influence :-)May 07 23:34
schestowitzAlthough I know many Apple lovers who are intoxicated by other ingredientsMay 07 23:34
ThistleWeblolMay 07 23:35
schestowitzshow is 1:40 longMay 07 23:35
ThistleWebless than 2mins?May 07 23:35
schestowitzshow is almost 1:40:00 longMay 07 23:36
ThistleWeblolMay 07 23:36
_GoblinRight....show notes doneMay 07 23:45
_Goblintitle for the show?May 07 23:46
ThistleWebsomething about the fedora intervuewMay 07 23:46
_GoblinmmmmMay 07 23:47
_GoblinahMay 07 23:47
ThistleWebthe inetrview is he main part of the showMay 07 23:48
_GoblinComrade Brandon talks fedora ? ;)May 07 23:48
ThistleWebthe name should reflect thatMay 07 23:48
_Goblinon account of his repeated comments on communismMay 07 23:49
ThistleWebcommrade miricleMay 07 23:49
ThistleWeblolMay 07 23:49
ThistleWebaka beefy miracleMay 07 23:49
schestowitz_Goblin: i made up a titleMay 07 23:50
_Goblinwhat aboutMay 07 23:50
_Goblinall the foursMay 07 23:50
schestowitzthe titles don't have to be consistentMay 07 23:50
_Goblin(as in bingoMay 07 23:50
schestowitzin the mirrors I use other titlesMay 07 23:50
schestowitzdiversifying it enables more people to land on the show and find itMay 07 23:50
schestowitz_Goblin: I thought, four horsemenMay 07 23:51
schestowitz!google four horsemenMay 07 23:51
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_ApocalypseMay 07 23:51
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Four Horsemen (drink) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_(drink)May 07 23:51
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Four Horsemen Toy Studio News - Four Horsemen Toy Design | http://www.fourhorsemen.biz/May 07 23:51
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - The Four Horsemen - University of Notre Dame Official Athletic Site | http://www.und.com/trads/horse.htmlMay 07 23:51
ThistleWebnot to be confused with four norsemen ala Elop's bitchesMay 07 23:52
schestowitzogg doneMay 07 23:52
schestowitzAnnouncing Project RedDwarf – Database as a Service http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/04/announcing-project-reddwarf-database-as-a-service/May 07 23:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Announcing Project RedDwarf – Database as a Service — The OpenStack Blog .::. Size~: 15.11 KBMay 07 23:54

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