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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.raywj.com/2011/05/09/rappin-for-jesus/ | May 10 02:26 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsTnc6RtDdY | May 10 13:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEVl51tl-wU | May 10 13:27 |
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| schestowitz | gop spin | May 10 13:27 |
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| schestowitz | [13:31] <zoobab> hi | May 10 13:41 |
| MinceR | hell is other people | May 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:31] <zoobab> what do you use to track RSS feeds? | May 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:31] <zoobab> I am looking for a command line tool to log events on different RSS feeds, maybe you use an irssi plugin? | May 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:41] <schestowitz> I use thunderbird | May 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Heh | May 10 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Like Murdoch? | May 10 13:42 |
| MinceR | :> | May 10 13:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA&NR=1 | May 10 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | comparing himself to fox | May 10 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo&feature=related | May 10 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJGrvoQ83-0&NR=1&feature=fvwp | May 10 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | less oil consumption | May 10 14:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ANoJU1gE4&feature=related | May 10 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DPKyNf04hM&feature=fvwrel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKH5rLVhxK4&feature=related | May 10 14:32 |
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| Ender_nothome | http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main | May 10 14:38 |
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| Ender_nothome | Fox is a small fish | May 10 14:38 |
| Ender_nothome | GE owns more than they do | May 10 14:39 |
| Ender_nothome | Its GE,Walt Disney, Time Warner, Viacom and CBS vs Fox | May 10 14:39 |
| Ender_nothome | hmmmm bias? | May 10 14:39 |
| Ender_nothome | I've never seen you attack those companies | May 10 14:39 |
| Ender_nothome | just Fix | May 10 14:39 |
| Ender_nothome | Time Warner and CBC have partnerships | May 10 14:43 |
| MinceR | actually Roy has spoken of m$nbc (GE) in a negative light | May 10 14:44 |
| MinceR | and it's not Faux | May 10 14:44 |
| Ender_nothome | hardly surprising being microsoft | May 10 14:44 |
| Ender_nothome | that would be one exception | May 10 14:45 |
| Ender_nothome | there may be others, but do a site:techrights.org search for fox and you'll see hundreds of results | May 10 14:45 |
| MinceR | faux is highly visible and well known to be biased | May 10 14:45 |
| MinceR | otherwise i don't know :) | May 10 14:45 |
| Ender_nothome | I think its cause fox is right wing and pisses a lot of people off | May 10 14:46 |
| Ender_nothome | I dont really like fox either but i attack ALL media | May 10 14:47 |
| MinceR | randomly? :> | May 10 14:48 |
| Ender_nothome | i certainly dont link to the guardianuk | May 10 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Bias is Bias | May 10 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Lot of reporters theses days grew up with MS | May 10 14:49 |
| oiaohm | So have a developed in bias as well. | May 10 14:49 |
| Ender_nothome | its a hegelian dialectic, us vs them | May 10 14:49 |
| oiaohm | Sad part is the divides are real. | May 10 14:50 |
| Ender_nothome | real but manufactured | May 10 14:50 |
| Ender_nothome | even I fall into the trap sometimes | May 10 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: People forgot IE use to run on windows. | May 10 14:51 |
| oiaohm | When MS was trying to win the first browser war. | May 10 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Opps | May 10 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Unix | May 10 14:51 |
| oiaohm | IE use to run on Unix | May 10 14:51 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah I know | May 10 14:52 |
| oiaohm | In the first browser war | May 10 14:52 |
| Ender_nothome | Miguel told me he wanted to work on it | May 10 14:52 |
| Ender_nothome | when he applied at MSFT | May 10 14:52 |
| Ender_nothome | long long ago | May 10 14:52 |
| oiaohm | MSFT stopped it as soon as MS believed they had won. | May 10 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Never forsee that Netscape under new management would work their way back. | May 10 14:53 |
| Ender_nothome | I had become an Opera supporter | May 10 14:53 |
| Ender_nothome | meh, Netscape is part of AOL | May 10 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Chrome and Firefox are setting up to duel against geach other. | May 10 14:53 |
| Ender_nothome | im rooting for Chrome | May 10 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Netscape releasing it source code to make Mozilla. | May 10 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Ms though that was a dead end. | May 10 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Ie Mozilla the new management. | May 10 14:53 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah I know the history | May 10 14:53 |
| Ender_nothome | Mozilla was setup by AOL | May 10 14:54 |
| oiaohm | No | May 10 14:54 |
| MinceR | Opera is nonfree, Chrom{e,ium} has a horrible sandbox implementation | May 10 14:54 |
| MinceR | Firefox at least works and is free | May 10 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Sale to AOL happened after Mozilla was setup. | May 10 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Netscape setup Mozilla as their dieing act. Ender_nothome | May 10 14:54 |
| Ender_nothome | chromium works | May 10 14:54 |
| MinceR | as for the ownership chart, i suspect that the revenue for the entirety of GE is listed, most of which is not media | May 10 14:54 |
| MinceR | hm, actually there are some big names in there | May 10 14:55 |
| MinceR | now that i look closely | May 10 14:55 |
| MinceR | such as Universal | May 10 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Also people don't know that Mozilla was the code name inside Netscape for the browser and client side tools of the netscape business. Ender_nothome | May 10 14:55 |
| oiaohm | People forget Netscape was in the ldap business as well. | May 10 14:56 |
| Ender_nothome | Netscape made the Mozilla Organization | May 10 14:56 |
| Ender_nothome | what about the Foundation | May 10 14:56 |
| Ender_nothome | AOL set them up with a $2 million dollar donation | May 10 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: Requirement of the sale of netscape. | May 10 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: It was not a free gift. | May 10 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: yes 2 million dieing breath. | May 10 14:58 |
| Ender_nothome | lol | May 10 14:58 |
| Ender_nothome | its still staffed by netscape employees | May 10 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | May 10 14:58 |
| Ender_nothome | Mitchell Baker | May 10 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Netscape was one of the sneakest companies ever. | May 10 14:59 |
| oiaohm | I am dead I will sell self so I can live on. | May 10 14:59 |
| Ender_nothome | imo, this whole firefox vs chrome can only be a good thing | May 10 14:59 |
| Ender_nothome | innovation dies when there is only one major browser | May 10 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Blender foundation is funny history. | May 10 15:00 |
| Ender_nothome | im quite surprised actually that netscape/mozilla survived so well | May 10 15:00 |
| Ender_nothome | can't say the same about Winamp and other stuff they purchased | May 10 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Blender foundation history is nice funny. | May 10 15:01 |
| oiaohm | NaN founders wanted to retire. | May 10 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Lead developer Tom wanted to keep on working on it. | May 10 15:01 |
| oiaohm | NaN put a price on Blender. | May 10 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Tom asked the clients of NaN if they would fund the purchace. | May 10 15:02 |
| oiaohm | And they did. | May 10 15:02 |
| oiaohm | And ever since Tom has been putting up projects asking for money and getting it. | May 10 15:02 |
| Ender_nothome | cool | May 10 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: Mozilla early days had a hard time. | May 10 15:03 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah | May 10 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: Really MS pulling IE off of Unix gave Mozilla the wind to grow. | May 10 15:03 |
| oiaohm | So MS is directly responable for the competition problem they have against firefox today. | May 10 15:04 |
| Ender_nothome | I stopped using Netscape after the 4.x series, the 6.x series was terrible and the open source mozilla was just as slow | May 10 15:04 |
| Ender_nothome | it wasn't until Pheonix came out | May 10 15:04 |
| Ender_nothome | that I switched back | May 10 15:04 |
| Ender_nothome | I used that till Chrome for Linux was out | May 10 15:05 |
| oiaohm | I still use firefox/iceweasel | May 10 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Mostly due to extentions I have. | May 10 15:06 |
| Ender_nothome | I only use adblock, chromium has it | May 10 15:06 |
| oiaohm | I have a youtube downloader and a few other things. | May 10 15:06 |
| Ender_nothome | oh yeah | May 10 15:06 |
| Ender_nothome | I use firefox for youtube downloader | May 10 15:06 |
| Ender_nothome | videodownloader actually | May 10 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Yep | May 10 15:07 |
| oiaohm | down right brilent bit of work. | May 10 15:07 |
| Ender_nothome | thats as far as I go though | May 10 15:07 |
| Ender_nothome | I'd like to see SELinux support | May 10 15:07 |
| Ender_nothome | my only other wanted feature in firefox was native bookmark sync | May 10 15:07 |
| oiaohm | Really I would love to see cgroup usage mature. | May 10 15:07 |
| Ender_nothome | i trust xmarks even less than google, they are a for profit company making money off of selling your bookmarks | May 10 15:08 |
| oiaohm | Since cgroups should be able sandbox very solidly. | May 10 15:08 |
| Ender_nothome | which doesnt sound all bad but they are extremely sneaky | May 10 15:08 |
| oiaohm | Yet be LSM netural. | May 10 15:08 |
| oiaohm | I do love one feature of the cgroup filesystem name space feature. | May 10 15:09 |
| Ender_nothome | huh? | May 10 15:09 |
| Ender_nothome | cgroup? | May 10 15:09 |
| oiaohm | The means to give users each there own /tmp directory. | May 10 15:09 |
| Ender_nothome | ohhh | May 10 15:09 |
| oiaohm | filesystem name space can bend the directory struct applications inside a cgroup see. | May 10 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Like making directories no longer exist. | May 10 15:10 |
| oiaohm | making directories point to different locations. | May 10 15:10 |
| oiaohm | or making directories that would other wise be read write be read only. | May 10 15:10 |
| oiaohm | And other magic bend filesystem into strange shapes. | May 10 15:10 |
| oiaohm | cgroup PID namespace and UID namespaces are also just as fun Ender_nothome | May 10 15:11 |
| Ender_nothome | I like that idea | May 10 15:11 |
| Ender_nothome | would that do anything about the directory/file paradigm | May 10 15:12 |
| Ender_nothome | I think its inefficient now | May 10 15:12 |
| Ender_nothome | say you're trying to organize a file that could go into multiple folders | May 10 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Really a namespace is like a unique / starting location for the contained applications in the cgroup. | May 10 15:13 |
| oiaohm | cgroup are a way of grouping applications. Ender_nothome | May 10 15:13 |
| Ender_nothome | which one do you pick? do you make copies for each folder? or do you make a link? | May 10 15:13 |
| Ender_nothome | thats why I asked if it would solve this | May 10 15:14 |
| Ender_nothome | not familiar with cgroup | May 10 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Ender_nothome: Its bending the VFS into new reality. | May 10 15:14 |
| Ender_nothome | I'd like to see a filesystem that had tagging of some sort | May 10 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Basically each group of applications in a cgroup basically has its own VFS | May 10 15:14 |
| oiaohm | They can overlap. | May 10 15:14 |
| Ender_nothome | kind of like a chroot? | May 10 15:14 |
| oiaohm | chroot without the flaws. | May 10 15:15 |
| oiaohm | ie you cannot do operations go find the path under / | May 10 15:15 |
| oiaohm | Because their is no path under / | May 10 15:15 |
| oiaohm | chroots can be broken out of. | May 10 15:16 |
| MinceR | in certain cases, that is | May 10 15:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: namespace there are no certain cases. | May 10 15:16 |
| oiaohm | PID bending is more warped. Process table that applications inside a namespace can see has been made unique. So they can only see processes in that cgroup. | May 10 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > Looks like mistakes continue because to buy Skype for such big price | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > is mistake. Why? | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/microskype-microsoft-pays-85-billion-for-skype-to-make-xbox-win-7-phone-outlook-more-social-updated/24496 | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > Google with its Talk and GNU Telephony will fully beat because GNU | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > Telephony is 100% open and no risk to spying. | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: MicroSkype: Microsoft pays $8.5 billion for Skype, to make Xbox, Win 7 phone, Outlook more social [Updated] | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.49 KB | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/GNU_Telephony | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/5823 | May 10 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/64697.html | May 10 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/262678/chinese_skype_spies_users_researcher_says/ | May 10 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Skype surveillance: You can't trust closed-source software .::. Size~: 38.35 KB | May 10 19:34 |
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| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Can this be compared to: | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2011/05/09/windows-vs-activists/ | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Chinese Skype spies on users, researcher says - censorship, Skype - ARN .::. Size~: 61.88 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Comments friend! | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Proprietary Software Against Civil Rights | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.42 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > I will people recommend use open source alternatives! | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | This is good news as it will drive people away from skype and into SIP. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Looks like mistakes continue because to buy Skype for such big price | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > is mistake. Why? | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/microskype-microsoft-pays-85-billion-for-skype-to-make-xbox-win-7-phone-outlook-more-social-updated/24496 | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Google with its Talk and GNU Telephony will fully beat because GNU | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: MicroSkype: Microsoft pays $8.5 billion for Skype, to make Xbox, Win 7 phone, Outlook more social [Updated] | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.42 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Telephony is 100% open and no risk to spying. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/GNU_Telephony | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: GNU Telephony .::. Size~: 15.83 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.geekzone.co.nz/foobar/5823 | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/64697.html | May 10 19:34 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/262678/chinese_skype_spies_users_researcher_says/ | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Can this be compared to: | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Chinese Skype spies on users, researcher says - censorship, Skype - ARN .::. Size~: 61.88 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2011/05/09/windows-vs-activists/ | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
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| schestowitz | > Comments friend! | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > I will people recommend use open source alternatives! | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | This is good news as it will drive people away from skype and into SIP. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft is unsecure too. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > Giveaway page link open and you will see. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bing-Offers-500-000-Free-Songs-Get-Yours-Now-175171.shtml | May 10 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Bing Offers 500,000 Free Songs, Get Yours Now - Softpedia .::. Size~: 52.06 KB | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | > IIS on Windows. Bad, bad. | May 10 19:34 |
| schestowitz | wow | May 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | techrights gets loads of traffic these days | May 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | The server is slow | May 10 19:36 |
| schestowitz | no wonder we have more people in IRC.. | May 10 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Re: Security news | May 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | > http://news.techworld.com/security/3278845/java-botnet-infecting-both-windows-and-mac-computers/?olo=rss | May 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 20:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Java botnet infecting both Windows and Mac computers - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 92.92 KB | May 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, do you agree that hackers are sent by GOD mission on Earth? | May 10 20:22 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/hpONL.jpg | May 10 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 10 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/52499. | May 10 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/52499 | May 10 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/52499 | May 10 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | oops | May 10 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so you already know about this then? | May 10 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | oh you said something here, and I asked in other channel before replying here by mistake | May 10 21:28 |
| schestowitz | > Roy I want your answer. | May 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > Am I true that hackers are part of GOD mission on Earth? It is mission | May 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > to stop monopoly, spying... | May 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | What do you mean by "God"? | May 10 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | Re: Pirate bay is with us and GOD too! | May 10 21:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2069425/pirate-bay-prepares-battle-internet?WT.rss_f=News&WT.rss_a=Pirate+Bay+prepares+for+the+battle+of+the+internet | May 10 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > I try to read all your blogs on techrights.org. | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > It is very informative. Thank you. | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the kind words. | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > Patents. | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > I read a lot about those patents and the USPTO that rubber-stamps almost | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > all patent requests. I wondered, has nobody ever tried to sue the USPTO | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > for that? (And maybe sue them too in order to deliver better work by | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > better searching for previous art.) Because I read there are patents | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > that are obviously not new inventions. Cannot somebody, FSF for | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > instance, demand to withdraw them? The USPTO might be an easier target | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | > that a company like M$ or its affiliates. | May 10 21:37 |
| schestowitz | I think the USPTO is part of the Establishment, which includes the court system, so any such litigant would be laughed out of court. | May 10 21:37 |
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