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| sebsebseb | Good Morning Boycottnovell-social / Techrights-social | May 18 07:35 |
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| schestowitz | hello sebsebseb | May 18 09:12 |
| schestowitz | how are you? | May 18 09:12 |
| schestowitz | brb | May 18 09:12 |
| sebsebseb | ok you? | May 18 09:12 |
| schestowitz | good | May 18 09:16 |
| schestowitz | busy day ahead | May 18 09:16 |
| schestowitz | first, irc logs, then I need to catch up w/ news, many hours programming, maybe news again | May 18 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Got some angry feedback from mono boosters overnight | May 18 09:17 |
| schestowitz | They always amuse me | May 18 09:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: got my host name showing in IRC again in both channels, from yesterday, not that big a deal, but well you know | May 18 09:19 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to remember to check | May 18 09:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh | May 18 09:39 |
| schestowitz | I was happy to remove it for you before | May 18 09:50 |
| schestowitz | But it's becoming a burden when you get all paranoid about it. I need to remove that manually and it takes time. And what for really? | May 18 09:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh heh, no not paranoid, just don't want it showing really | May 18 09:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway turns out both channels are ok for the 17th log | May 18 09:59 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe you changed it already | May 18 09:59 |
| schestowitz | not changed anything | May 18 10:00 |
| sebsebseb | my client log say, I joined with it showing, but your logs don't have it showing :D | May 18 10:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well they are fine, no need to change anything | May 18 10:02 |
| sebsebseb | for 17th | May 18 10:02 |
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| themadhatter | Morning | May 18 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | themadhatter: hi | May 18 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | themadhatter: you use Identica a lot don't you? | May 18 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | no I am not suggesting we subscribe to each other by the way | May 18 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm your pretty good at writing English really, plus you know about Identica, I know your busy today really, but uhmm, maybe later on or something, you can do me a favour, check some text for me, well unless I find someone else first I guess | May 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz | hi, themadhatter | May 18 15:16 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: sure | May 18 15:16 |
| schestowitz | and thanks | May 18 15:16 |
| schestowitz | themadhatter: why not the #techrights channel too? | May 18 15:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: if your going to check this, uhmm I don't want the text in here | May 18 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | I also don't want the text on pastebin for ages, you know about posts that expire and such right? | May 18 15:18 |
| sebsebseb | also maybe text needs to be be better written somehow, it still seems like just a rant really, hmm | May 18 15:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: do you know how to use pastebin, you seem to pastebin emails and such a lot in here? | May 18 15:19 |
| sebsebseb | pastebin emails a lot in here? above I meant, you seem to copy in emails a lot in here | May 18 15:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway it's stuff for the Mageia marketting email list, that I want checked :) | May 18 15:22 |
| sebsebseb | email list? mailing list, above | May 18 15:22 |
| schestowitz | use techrights wiki | May 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I'll edit it there | May 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Techrights:Community_Portal | May 18 15:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Techrights:Community Portal - Techrights .::. Size~: 15.15 KB | May 18 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | hmm maybe, would have to log into my account on there again, probably need a password re set, well yeah I do really and uh | May 18 15:24 |
| schestowitz | You'll be able to do a diff to also see what exactly I fixed | May 18 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | thing is I don't want this on the web like that | May 18 15:24 |
| schestowitz | wikis are good to actually learn what was changed | May 18 15:24 |
| sebsebseb | I don't want my draft on the web pubilcally at all | May 18 15:24 |
| schestowitz | what's the worst that can happen? | May 18 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | as for the actsual email, well yeah t hat will go on the web publically, since they hare public archives | May 18 15:25 |
| schestowitz | An ex-g/f spying on you? :- | May 18 15:25 |
| sebsebseb | nope not using the wiki like that | May 18 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | Why do you want evertyhing so public by the way? | May 18 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | someitmes a bit of privacy is a good thing | May 18 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: in fact you seem to want everything so public and that, that maybe uhmm you should start leaving the door wide open at night, of the place you stay in, so anyone who wants to, can come in there no problem :D | May 18 15:27 |
| schestowitz | "For all new development, where deployment and usage is foreseen by | May 18 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > parties outside of the Commission Infrastructure, Open Source Software | May 18 15:34 |
| schestowitz | > will be the preferred development and deployment platform." (2008) | May 18 15:34 |
| schestowitz | http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/informatics/oss_tech/index_en.htm | May 18 15:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Strategy for internal use of OSS at the EC - European Commission .::. Size~: 22.7 KB | May 18 15:34 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: that's different | May 18 15:34 |
| schestowitz | open door at night... actually, I can do that | May 18 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I trust people who live around me. | May 18 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh you live in Manchester, probably quite a lot of criminals there | May 18 15:35 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, more to the point, having conversations about professional issue (not private issues) is not out of the ordinary | May 18 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Like, about FOSS... | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | In science we also share a lot of info.. | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Others can make better use of data this way | May 18 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | having a draft of an email, and getting someoen else to check, isn't out of the ordinary | May 18 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | however even so having my draft being public as well, not so sure I want that | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | i knew some scientists who wanted people to dig through their mailbox when they die | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | To find ideas that never materialised | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | And maybe make use of these, with atrib. | May 18 15:36 |
| schestowitz | > "29. Urges the Commission and Member States to devise appropriate | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > measures to promote, develop and manufacture European encryption | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > technology and software and above all to support projects aimed at | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > developing user-friendly open-source encryption software;" | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > "33. Calls on the Community institutions and the public administrations | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > of the Member States to provide training for their staff and make their | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > staff familiar with new encryption technologies and techniques by means | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > of the necessary practical training and courses;" | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pv2/pv2?PRG=DOCPV&APP=PV2&LANGUE=EN&SDOCTA=21&TXTLST=1&POS=1&Type_Doc=RESOL&TPV=DEF&DATE=050901&PrgPrev=PRG@TITRE%7CAPP@PV2%7CTYPEF@TITRE%7CYEAR@01%7CFind@echelon%7CFILE@BIBLIO01%7CPLAGE@1&TYPEF=TITRE&NUMB=1&DATEF=010905 | May 18 15:38 |
| schestowitz | In the US, Tor developers are pursued with the veracity that Gitmo detainees are treated. | May 18 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | May 18 15:39 |
| themadhatter | Sorry guys - something happened in another window - be right back | May 18 15:44 |
| schestowitz | >> In the US, Tor developers are pursued with the veracity that Gitmo | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | >> detainees are treated. | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | > Is that well documented? | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Around the time he was helping Egypt get past the Internet shutdown something like this happened for the second time: | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/wikileaks-editor-jacob-appelbaum-detained-by-us-customs/ | May 18 15:47 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20012253-245.html | May 18 15:48 |
| schestowitz | themadhatter: ok | May 18 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks editor Jacob Appelbaum detained by US customs + WikiLeaks insurance scandal « Dandelion Salad .::. Size~: 143.61 KB | May 18 15:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Researcher detained at U.S. border, questioned about Wikileaks | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 235.73 KB | May 18 15:48 |
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| themadhatter | Our connection blipped. | May 18 15:58 |
| themadhatter | Anyway, lot of weird shit going on. Which made me think of our old friend Pam Edstrom and the fun on UseNet back in the days of Slip. | May 18 16:01 |
| themadhatter | Roy, you still here? | May 18 16:20 |
| schestowitz | ys | May 18 16:23 |
| schestowitz | what's the weird stuff? | May 18 16:23 |
| schestowitz | didn't notice anything myself, it's quiet in the news these days, which left me with time to spend improving recording and SIP stuff | May 18 16:23 |
| schestowitz | I think we need to start embracing some multimedia to reach an audience outside the choir, people like my friends and colleagues even, who start tuning in | May 18 16:24 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/70607917040140289 | May 18 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Pandersonpllc: I agree. Non-issue RT @FOSSpatents: hypothesis of breach of iOS developer license agreement http://t.co/EkLCFdL In my view, a non-issue. | May 18 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: FOSS Patents: What app developers need to know about Lodsys and the in-app upgrade button patent problem .::. Size~: 97.45 KB | May 18 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Florian chats a lot with patent solicitors | May 18 16:25 |
| schestowitz | This morning he chatted with some British journos like a dozen times, trying to inject his spin into their articles... http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/70753709826646016 | May 18 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @charlesarthur cc: @rupertg Patents were already in place at that time to prevent PC clones, but IBM was careful for antitrust reasons. | May 18 16:26 |
| schestowitz | He's no patent expert | May 18 16:26 |
| schestowitz | So they ought not to listen to him | May 18 16:26 |
| schestowitz | He is no "FOSS" person, either | May 18 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I hope they'll all realise this, over time | May 18 16:26 |
| schestowitz | OK, I'm bored. | May 18 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna go to the gym to kill some time. BBL | May 18 16:55 |
| themadhatter | OK, it's being a bad morning here. | May 18 17:09 |
| themadhatter | Everytime I try to get something done, something else happens. | May 18 17:09 |
| themadhatter | As to Florian, complain to the news orgs that use him. And keep complaining. If they get enough complaints, from enough different people, they will dump him. | May 18 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | anoter mono booster returns | May 18 19:25 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73802391 | May 18 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @rclayton's status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 18:05:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @magneito also note that the facial recog. software @schestowitz writes is proprietary (no source code available) | May 18 19:25 |
| schestowitz | lie. | May 18 19:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wouterdemuynck/statuses/70881509850103808 | May 18 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @wouterdemuynck: Reading #techrights... TinWiki was less paranoid than this. | May 18 20:33 |
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