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schestowitzSigh.May 22 11:51
schestowitz> Hi Roy!May 22 11:51
schestowitz> I won't be coming to the gym today morning, because I have to be at work at 12.00.May 22 11:51
schestowitz> Sorry and see you when I get back from Poland on friday.May 22 11:51
schestowitzHi mate,May 22 11:52
schestowitzTry writing some site pages on the plane, we can proofread them together later on. We'll also need those files of ours from the Midland, then finish the site's basic components.May 22 11:52
oiaohmhttp://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2011/05/interview-with-miguel-de-icaza.aspx  schestowitz read this yet.May 22 11:59
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Interview with Miguel de Icaza: Xamarin, Attachmate Layoffs, Future of Mono, More -- Application Development Trends .::. Size~: 93.55 KBMay 22 11:59
oiaohmReads more like what I was suspecting.May 22 11:59
oiaohmThe angel funding does not sound like a large angle.May 22 11:59
oiaohmSo the question is how long before the payroll presures bring hell on it.May 22 12:00
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themadhatterROy?May 22 12:24
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themadhatter??May 22 13:52
schestowitzHiMay 22 13:56
schestowitzoiaohm: goodMay 22 13:56
themadhattermorningMay 22 13:56
themadhatterSee you got rid of your FB account.May 22 13:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/74158068 http://identi.ca/notice/74158331May 22 13:57
TechrightsBot-sc@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 12:38:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You don't even believe in wearing different hats? Of course, people are people, but roles are relevant.May 22 13:57
TechrightsBot-sc@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 12:42:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Whether you made the connection through @mairin or otherwise, FP=RH is much less correct than techrights=boycottnovell.May 22 13:57
schestowitzDifferent hats would require different brains, tooMay 22 13:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/74158812May 22 13:58
TechrightsBot-sc@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 12:50:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Busy?May 22 13:58
schestowitzthemadhatter: ages ago, how did you know?May 22 13:58
themadhatterI was going to use you for something, looked, and you weren't there.May 22 13:59
schestowitzuse me? :-)May 22 14:00
themadhatterYeah. Can't explain, at least not in public.May 22 14:01
schestowitzSomeone had me join around 2006May 22 14:01
themadhatterYou know that I front for a variety of SIGMay 22 14:03
themadhatterI was attempting to explain some of the Microsoft background for one of them, and decided that it would have been easier to get you to do it. You know the names and dates a lot better than I do. It also would have been more believeable coming from a third party. May 22 14:06
schestowitzSIG is?May 22 14:06
themadhatterSpecial Interest Group.May 22 14:06
schestowitzof what nature?May 22 14:06
themadhatterUm, I can't say. If you were on FB I would have invited you into the discussion area. These people are somewhat, nervous, I think is the best word. They really do not want it know that they are discussing what they are duscussing with each other. It could cause major problems.May 22 14:08
themadhatterDid you know that you could set up Invisible discussion areas on Facebook?May 22 14:09
schestowitzI think you're teasingMay 22 14:09
themadhatterYes I am.May 22 14:09
schestowitzAnd why would anything do something dubious in a public forum like FacebookMay 22 14:09
schestowitzMicrosoft gets copies of facebook's data, you know?May 22 14:09
schestowitzSIG is connotative with lobbyingMay 22 14:10
themadhatterMicrosoft isn't their concern. My concern is that there are things happening in their field which remind me of Pam Edstrom.May 22 14:10
schestowitzOh, copyright wise?May 22 14:11
themadhatterEvangelism. The Slog. Easter Bunny and OS2.May 22 14:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/74159871May 22 14:12
TechrightsBot-sc@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 13:07:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not saying there is a sharp line, but still, you have different responsibilities and loyalties when assuming different roles.May 22 14:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/74160023May 22 14:12
TechrightsBot-sc@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 13:09:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I do believe when @mairin says that Fedora needs volunteers, that's representative of opinions in FP more than from RH mgmt.May 22 14:12
schestowitzWhat I was saying was, a conflict of interest arisesMay 22 14:12
schestowitzthemadhatter: but in what area?May 22 14:12
schestowitzAnd why would I be of use in a discussion like that?May 22 14:13
themadhatterYou know about Microsoft evangelism. I think that we are seeing something similar happening. And believe it or not, even if the weird evangelism stuff hadn't have come up, you were on the list of people to be invited into the group. I was surprised when I couldn't find you when I set it up.May 22 14:15
schestowitzYou found me hereMay 22 14:16
schestowitzFacebook is not the univwrsal DBMay 22 14:16
schestowitzIt's a private business that intrudes and preys on peopleMay 22 14:16
schestowitz!google zuckerberg 13 year old kidsMay 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-sc[1] - Zuckerberg: Kids under 13 should be allowed on Facebook - Big Tech ... | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/20/zuckerberg-kids-under-13-should-be-allowed-on-facebook/May 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-sc[2] - Mark Zuckerberg Wants Kids Under 13 to Join Facebook, Uses Bogus ... | http://www.hackeducation.com/2011/05/20/mark-zuckerberg-wants-kids-under-13-to-join-facebook-uses-bogus-coppa-excuse-to-justify-why-they-cant/May 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-sc[3] - Mark Zuckerberg wants to open up Facebook to kids under age 13 ... | http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/05/mark-zuckerberg-wants-to-open-up-facebook-to-kids-under-age-13/May 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-sc[4] - Mark Zuckerberg to “fight” to get kids under 13 on Facebook | http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/05/20/mark-zuckerberg-to-fight-to-get-kids-under-13-on-facebook/May 22 14:16
themadhatterNo, but the people I'm talking to all use it, so at present we are stuck with it.May 22 14:16
themadhatterIf you promise to check your email, I can send you a list of names, and give you the details of why the group exists. I just can't in IRC, it's too public, and the people I'm talking to have damned good reason to be cautious.May 22 14:19
schestowitzWell, if they use facebook, then they already lost their privacy :-)May 22 14:22
themadhatterTo some extent. The companies that they are worried about are not likely to have access to Facebook's inner workings, unlike Microsoft.May 22 14:32
themadhatterBTW, I've just written a hatchet piece on our old buddy Ed Bot.May 22 14:33
themadhatterI suspect Ed will be less than happy with me.May 22 14:38
schestowitzwhat's the URL?May 22 14:40
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/22/making-techbytes/May 22 14:42
TechrightsBot-scTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » How We Make TechBytes .::. Size~: 40.75 KBMay 22 14:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/74160311May 22 14:45
TechrightsBot-sc@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Sunday, 22-May-11 13:13:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I don't see the conflict between the interests of the #Fedora project and #RedHat in this case.May 22 14:45
themadhatterIt's not up yet. I've submitted to to SemiAccurate. It's about Ed Bot's 'The Sky is Falling' Mac Virus articles.May 22 14:47
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sebsebsebhiMay 22 14:48
schestowitzhttp://blogs.forbes.com/adamhartung/2011/05/03/why-not-all-earnings-are-equal-and-microsoft-has-the-wal-mart-disease/ http://www.dailynewsengine.com/1803/microsoft-offers-students-a-free-xbox-360-with-windows-7-pc-purchase/May 22 14:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Why Not All Earnings Are Equal; Microsoft Has the Wal-Mart Disease - Adam Hartung - Growth - Dealing with Market Shifts - Forbes .::. Size~: 167.56 KBMay 22 14:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Microsoft offers students a free Xbox 360 with Windows 7 PC purchase .::. Size~: 28.14 KBMay 22 14:53
schestowitzSomeone just sent me thisMay 22 14:54
schestowitz> Hi Roy,May 22 14:54
schestowitz> May 22 14:54
schestowitz> I found this press-release (so-called-news) yesterday and thought it wasMay 22 14:54
schestowitz> funny (in a sad way). Microsoft is now trying to bribe students intoMay 22 14:54
schestowitz> buying Windows 7.  If they buy a computer with Win7, they get a free xbox. May 22 14:54
schestowitz> *Microsoft offers students a free Xbox 360 with Windows 7*May 22 14:54
schestowitz> <http://www.dailynewsengine.com/1803/microsoft-offers-students-a-free-xbox-360-with-windows-7-pc-purchase/> May 22 14:54
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schestowitz> Thought it might be something to discuss on the Techrights show.May 22 14:54
schestowitz> May 22 14:54
schestowitz> Here's another interesting take on Microsoft's current condition. *May 22 14:54
schestowitz> Apparently Microsoft has Walmart's diseaseMay 22 14:54
schestowitz> <http://blogs.forbes.com/adamhartung/2011/05/03/why-not-all-earnings-are-equal-and-microsoft-has-the-wal-mart-disease/>*.May 22 14:54
TechrightsBot-scError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMay 22 14:54
schestowitzThese are some excellent picks. Tim and I plan to do another show today (after yesterday's), so I'll try to push this one in.May 22 14:54
schestowitzRe: Microsoft gives away xboxes for purchase of Win7May 22 14:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: after yerdays hmm right ok, so another show is up thenMay 22 15:02
sebsebsebI got a ethernet connection issue :(May 22 15:02
sebsebseb,but came up with another idea to have it working, and so far so good :)May 22 15:02
sebsebsebsalad tape didn't work out so wellMay 22 15:02
sebsebsebit worked, but then  it disconnected on me all of a sudden yesterday and uhMay 22 15:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: we mostly record in weekendsMay 22 15:03
schestowitzTo ease time managementMay 22 15:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: and why has Gordon quit exactly?May 22 15:03
schestowitzSo sometimes two shows in weekend, one with guestsMay 22 15:03
schestowitzsebsebseb: don't know whyMay 22 15:03
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schestowitzLOLMay 22 19:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Benderozo/status/72361385463529472May 22 19:37
TechrightsBot-sc@Benderozo: @schestowitz Homeopathy has been proven scientifically, it's been proven that water has memory. The rest, i don't know.May 22 19:37
schestowitzWhen science loses meaningMay 22 19:38
schestowitzLOLMay 22 19:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rhysmorgan/status/72364414048804864May 22 19:38
TechrightsBot-sc@rhysmorgan: @Benderozo @schestowitz That's bullshit. It's not been proven to work at all. Quite the opposite. Water doesn't have a memory.May 22 19:38
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/1c9a747e83347179# "Even Chuck Norris can't sabotage Linux. "May 22 19:50
TechrightsBot-scTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.01 KBMay 22 19:50
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MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/a48c9927a07acd30c5b514fa0cb1e5194821bccf.jpgMay 22 20:48
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMay 22 20:48
schestowitzAffair with the Holy Spirit? I don't get it. :-)May 22 20:53
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MinceRaffair with an unnamed third party which wasn't her husband :>May 22 22:27
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MinceRhttp://redd.it/hhfu4May 22 22:41
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Is it wrong to laugh? via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.62 KBMay 22 22:41
schestowitzHeheMay 22 22:42
schestowitzWhat an arrogant deityMay 22 22:43
MinceRfull article at http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-answers-prayers-of-paralyzed-little-boy,475/May 22 22:43
TechrightsBot-scTitle: God Answers Prayers Of Paralyzed Little Boy | The Onion - America's Finest News Source .::. Size~: 37.86 KBMay 22 22:43
MinceRhttp://redd.it/hhfiyMay 22 22:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: It's beautiful, isn't it? via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.63 KBMay 22 22:52
schestowitz"Wouldn't be surprised if it got national play. AP might pick it up."May 22 22:58
schestowitzCrazy l00nsMay 22 22:58
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/RKinI.jpgMay 22 22:59
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schestowitzLOLMay 22 22:59
schestowitzReddit has good sectionsMay 22 22:59
schestowitzQuote sexist it seemsMay 22 23:01
schestowitz3 out of 4 from the top http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/May 22 23:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: funny .::. Size~: 71.29 KBMay 22 23:01
schestowitz*quiteMay 22 23:01
MinceRlolMay 22 23:02
schestowitzhttp://static.mellbimbo.eu/files/mad_fish.gifMay 22 23:02
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schestowitzAddictively funnyMay 22 23:02
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/yBxsa.jpgMay 22 23:04
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