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schestowitzMinceR: http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.phpMay 23 09:43
schestowitz[PJ: To tell you the truth, as surprising as it is even to me, Apple convinced me, now that I had the chance to read the filing.] - DailyTechMay 23 09:43
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 35.56 KBMay 23 09:43
schestowitzcontext: "Apple Defends App Store Trademark, Argues "Windows" Trademark is Illegal"May 23 09:43
MinceRnot difficult to "convince" someone who's already a thrall to the RDFMay 23 09:47
MinceR"braaaaaaaaains... 'windows' is generic, 'app store' is not.... braaaaaaaaaaaains..."May 23 09:48
MinceRimo they're both dreadfully unimaginative, therefore genericMay 23 09:50
MinceR"derp, it's a trademark because i capitalized it"May 23 09:50
schestowitzhttp://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/05/apple-buys-patents-from-freescale.html+May 23 09:56
TechrightsBot-scError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FoundMay 23 09:56
schestowitzhttp://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/05/apple-buys-patents-from-freescale.htmlMay 23 09:56
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Apple Buys 200+ Patents from Freescale Semiconductor - Patent Law Blog (Patently-O) .::. Size~: 71.19 KBMay 23 09:56
schestowitzShe links to itMay 23 09:57
schestowitzBut I bet she is not defending themMay 23 09:57
schestowitzRe TM, maybe she mean re invalidating Windows trademarkMay 23 09:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/sogrady/status/70917657448300544May 23 09:58
TechrightsBot-sc@sogrady: [thx!] MT @dehora If you want to know where the industry is headed "Open Source+Big Data=Big Money" is essential. http://tinyurl.com/5tu742pMay 23 09:58
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Open Source + Big Data = Big Money .::. Size~: 68.62 KBMay 23 09:58
schestowitzBTW, she did not retireMay 23 09:59
schestowitzShe said articles would stop, Mark does them nowMay 23 09:59
schestowitzThe mistake people made is that they thought she was leaving.May 23 09:59
schestowitzShe finds good articlesMay 23 09:59
schestowitzHelpful to us, tooMay 23 09:59
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MinceRhttp://redd.it/hhz1vMay 23 15:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: If church signs told the truth via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.63 KBMay 23 15:35
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/72697248215072771May 23 17:49
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It would be interesting to see how you reconcile supporting Wikleaks and ManU. I trust you're not going to be a hypocrite...May 23 17:49
schestowitzMehMay 23 17:49
schestowitzI whose favour?May 23 17:49
schestowitzAggressors?May 23 17:49
schestowitz"May 23 17:50
schestowitzFOSSpatents: @schestowitz I don't think it makes sense to criticize the way you do in that post. I report A LOT on Microsoft's mobile patent litigation.May 23 17:50
schestowitzTwitter - 17 seconds agoMay 23 17:50
schestowitz"May 23 17:50
schestowitzIn whose favour?May 23 17:50
schestowitzSunny tomorrow http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9May 23 17:51
TechrightsBot-scTitle: BBC Weather | Manchester .::. Size~: 61.34 KBMay 23 17:51
schestowitzand it's sunny here now.May 23 17:51
schestowitzwas rainy here _for days_May 23 17:51
schestowitzover the weekend it was the sameMay 23 17:52
schestowitz"FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Look at ... Can Barça now count on your support on Saturday? They always had my support for this :-)"May 23 17:53
schestowitz"FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It would be interesting to see how you reconcile supporting Wikleaks and ManU. I trust you're not going to be a hypocrite..."May 23 17:53
schestowitzTeasingMay 23 17:53
schestowitzAnd mucchkiningMay 23 17:54
schestowitzI should at least reply. can't ignore as it would look bad.May 23 17:54
schestowitz"you report in a fashion favourable to Microsoft, the aggressor. #swpats"May 23 17:55
schestowitz"yes, we spoke about Giggs' story at the gym a couple of hours ago,. As for Barça, was my fav as teenager."May 23 17:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/72697248215072771May 23 17:56
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It would be interesting to see how you reconcile supporting Wikleaks and ManU. I trust you're not going to be a hypocrite...May 23 17:56
schestowitzWhat an arseMay 23 17:56
MinceRwhat's up with ManU?May 23 18:04
schestowitzBarça gameMay 23 18:16
schestowitzfinal of clMay 23 18:17
MinceRoh, in-game. i don't know nor care about soccer :>May 23 18:17
schestowitzcity centre all jammed todayMay 23 18:17
schestowitzcouldn't go to the gym easilyMay 23 18:17
schestowitzman cityMay 23 18:17
schestowitz[18:17] <MinceR> oh, in-game. i don't know nor care about soccer :>May 23 18:18
schestowitzme neithrMay 23 18:18
schestowitzi used toMay 23 18:18
schestowitzit's like cath vs pros hereMay 23 18:18
schestowitzyu inherit from fatherMay 23 18:18
schestowitzcity or utdMay 23 18:18
schestowitzclansMay 23 18:18
schestowitzyou still need to keep up with football gossip too, to stay part of the conversationMay 23 18:21
schestowitzThis afternoon talking about footballers having sex and injunctions vs the press... like /me eyerolls...May 23 18:21
schestowitzwent to the spa insteadMay 23 18:22
MinceRi know geeks and nerds to converse with, so i don't need to know about soccer :>May 23 18:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/72707264154308610May 23 18:39
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That's the way you interpret it but it's just the same objective factual reporting I do on *all* patent litigation all the timeMay 23 18:39
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/72707521105764352May 23 18:40
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz His problem may very well be that he went to lawyers who abused his nervousness and misled him as to what they could do for himMay 23 18:40
schestowitzHe prefers switching to soccerMay 23 18:40
schestowitzTo make it look like we get alongMay 23 18:40
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/regvulture/status/72692370080145408May 23 18:42
TechrightsBot-sc@regvulture: MP names Ryan Giggs as super-injunction football star: From Twitter to House of Commons in 140 characters or less. R… http://reg.cx/1PcRMay 23 18:42
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: MP names Ryan Giggs as super-injunction football star • The Register .::. Size~: 20.12 KBMay 23 18:42
schestowitzfrom FlorianMay 23 18:42
schestowitzSwitching subjectsMay 23 18:42
schestowitzHe lobbied for a football clubMay 23 18:42
schestowitzBlech.May 23 18:44
schestowitzhttp://www.eubriefings.eu/The_Single_European_Patent_Soon_a_Reality_With_Live_QAMay 23 18:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Online EU Briefings: Connect with Brussels | The Single European Patent: Soon a Reality .::. Size~: 17.16 KBMay 23 18:44
schestowitzLook at the photoMay 23 18:44
schestowitzThey greenwash software patentsMay 23 18:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/status/72640186072309760May 23 18:50
TechrightsBot-sc@Mark_Antony: @rcweir Oh that's a *minor* skirmish... this one is far more entertaining http://bit.ly/mIJGuyMay 23 18:50
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Comment: a call for caution on open source | Guardian Government Computing | Guardian Professional .::. Size~: 115.06 KBMay 23 18:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/72641996161949698 http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/726422977617756163May 23 18:50
TechrightsBot-sc@rcweir: @Mark_Antony Ah, yes. All else being equal, the less you pay for software, the more expensive it is.  Who can argue against that.May 23 18:50
TechrightsBot-scNot a tweet?May 23 18:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/72642297761775616May 23 18:51
TechrightsBot-sc@rcweir: @Mark_Antony Maybe Microsoft would like to demonstrate how that works in practice by paying voluntary royalties on HTML?May 23 18:51
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/government-computing-network/2011/may/23/lawrence-kogan-itssd-caution-open-source-government-ictMay 23 18:53
schestowitz"May 23 18:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Comment: a call for caution on open source | Guardian Government Computing | Guardian Professional .::. Size~: 115.02 KBMay 23 18:53
schestowitzThis is not the first time Lawrence A Kogan has warned the world of the perils of open source software:May 23 18:53
schestowitz"U.S. Private Property Rights Under International Assault"May 23 18:53
schestowitzhttp://prfamerica.org/speeches/10th/USPrivatePropertyRightsUnderIntlAssault.htmlMay 23 18:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: U.S. Private Property Rights Under International Assault .::. Size~: 73.49 KBMay 23 18:53
schestowitz"May 23 18:53
schestowitzGuardian lets those scum post their liesMay 23 18:53
schestowitzMicrosoft Florian promotes this too http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/72615339321602048May 23 18:54
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: The Guardian published a guest post by a lawyer skeptical of procurement rules with open source/royalty-free stds bias http://t.co/EHEwZRGMay 23 18:54
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Comment: a call for caution on open source | Guardian Government Computing | Guardian Professional .::. Size~: 115.02 KBMay 23 18:54
schestowitzHe's pro RANFMay 23 18:54
schestowitzRANDMay 23 18:54
schestowitzi.e. patents in standardsMay 23 18:54
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/s5UYZ.jpgMay 23 19:19
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MinceRlolMay 23 19:22
schestowitzI love this section.. http://i.imgur.com/6TCrU.gifMay 23 19:27
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MinceR:DMay 23 19:27
schestowitzBrandon is trolling with a new nym nowMay 23 19:28
schestowitz<li><h5><a href="http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/20/zuckerberg-kids-under-13-should-be-allowed-on-facebook/" rel="nofollow">Facebook Wants Your Children</a></h5></li>May 23 19:37
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schestowitzhttp://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05/20/zuckerberg-kids-under-13-should-be-allowed-on-facebook/May 23 19:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Zuckerberg: Kids under 13 should be allowed on Facebook -  Big Tech -  Fortune Tech .::. Size~: 51.05 KBMay 23 19:37
MinceRsomebody thought of the childrenMay 23 19:38
schestowitzhehMay 23 19:40
msb_schestowitz: Roy -- do you think gde33 is Brandon?  Why?May 23 19:41
schestowitzwhat he says...May 23 19:42
msb_Doesn't sound like him (to me).May 23 19:42
schestowitzOhMay 23 19:42
schestowitzActually, it's notMay 23 19:42
schestowitzThis one is from .NLMay 23 19:42
msb_Yup.May 23 19:42
msb_Does seem to be a total bullshitter.  I don't think Brandon is.May 23 19:43
schestowitzMaybe brandon extradited to the Hague /sarcasmMay 23 19:43
msb_The "global warming" signal is very small compared to the daily and yearly temperature swings.  So the signal is totally dependent on the filtering algorithm and the selection of temperature data used.  It's not cut and dried.May 23 19:45
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110515173831922 "Most Recent Post: 05/23 04:05AM by yuhong"May 23 19:56
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw - As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 - Updated .::. Size~: 146.85 KBMay 23 19:56
schestowitzyuhongMay 23 19:56
schestowitzSee what he saysMay 23 19:56
schestowitzTHat Microsoft troll...May 23 19:56
schestowitzused to be in IRC here..May 23 19:56
schestowitzmsb_: well, there's consensus among those who know the areaMay 23 19:57
schestowitzThere's heckling from the Oil Cartel and the minions they bribeMay 23 19:57
schestowitz"May 23 19:58
schestowitzYea, I continue to read Groklaw after I stopped reading Techrights everyday. ItMay 23 19:58
schestowitzfocuses on the places where MS really continues to be evil, including inMay 23 19:58
schestowitzpatents. May 23 19:58
schestowitz"May 23 19:58
schestowitzwell, this is what we cover tooMay 23 19:58
schestowitzhe replied to me in Groklaw for some reasonMay 23 19:58
schestowitzMembers-only article: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110522193940869#commentsMay 23 19:59
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 13.22 KBMay 23 19:59
schestowitzHe doesn't get many posts out, or commentsMay 23 19:59
schestowitzBut PJ does well in News PicksMay 23 19:59
schestowitzSo the site goes onMay 23 19:59
schestowitz"Well, we made it through the first week without major incident thanks largely to Pam's coaching. I have now heard from some of you, but I really need to get to know all of you better, especially those of you who help monitor cases or provide other services to make Groklaw work. So I am asking each of you to drop me a line at markwebbink at groklaw.net. If you would like to securely communicate, be sure to send me your publicMay 23 20:00
schestowitzkey, and I will return mine with my response. If you would like to tell me some about yourself, that would be helpful. Anything you share will be kept in confidence, but if you are uncomfortable sharing information, that is okay, too. Also, don't hesitate to suggest ideas for articles, urls of interest, tech explanations, suggestions, etc. You will find I am mildly tech savvy for a lawyer, which means I have the tech May 23 20:00
schestowitzknowledge of a stump. Finally, if there are questions you would like to pose to me or things you would like to know about me, ask away; I will respond (at least so long as it is relevant to the site)."May 23 20:00
schestowitzHe has been nice with me on E-mail :-)May 23 20:00
schestowitzI like WebbinkMay 23 20:00
schestowitzHmm...May 23 20:32
schestowitzAn already small partition is running out of space. The log files are not so large at all, so not much can  be done in /var/log/ and there needs to be compacting elsewhere.May 23 20:32
schestowitzOne person's usage stands out. Would like to receive advice from the client on what can be purged; if no reply is received soon, will make backup/compress using intuition/common sense...May 23 20:32
MinceRlol, yuhong acknowledges m$ being evilMay 23 21:02
schestowitznot the way he wants it seen in TRMay 23 21:12
schestowitzSo he turns to GLMay 23 21:12
MinceRwhat way is he going for?May 23 21:14
schestowitzask himMay 23 21:15
MinceRcan't, he just pops in and out :>May 23 21:24
schestowitzheheMay 23 21:26
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGMy0n6KqqEMay 23 21:40
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/snwSv.jpgMay 23 21:51
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schestowitzHmm.. got things sorted out at the end..May 23 23:13
schestowitz> what time will you be at the gym tomorrow?May 23 23:13
schestowitz[...]May 23 23:13
schestowitz>May 23 23:13
schestowitz> About 1230 mate, kick off with some bag work, 1 min blast each x 5, then we can take it to the weights room, dips, chins and grip test.....bring forth the he-man regime:)May 23 23:13
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schestowitzMay 23 23:34
schestowitz[23:31] <trmanco> niceMay 23 23:34
schestowitz[23:32] <trmanco> just wondering, do you take any supplementation at all?May 23 23:34
schestowitz[23:33] <schestowitz> noMay 23 23:34
schestowitz[23:33] <trmanco> wowMay 23 23:34
schestowitzEat fishMay 23 23:34
schestowitzIIRC, you tried tuna for a whileMay 23 23:34
trmancoyeahMay 23 23:34
schestowitzIt's about 30 grams of protein per tin/canMay 23 23:34
trmancoI eat salmon now tooMay 23 23:34
schestowitzExpensive..May 23 23:34
schestowitzAnd has more fatMay 23 23:34
schestowitzPing salmon?May 23 23:35
trmancoabout 2 eggs dailyMay 23 23:35
schestowitzyes, same here...May 23 23:35
trmancosockeyeMay 23 23:35
schestowitzI abstained from eating eggs for agesMay 23 23:35
schestowitzUsed to make omelettes\May 23 23:35
trmancomy diet is pretty simpleMay 23 23:35
schestowitzLots of mess and frying pan to cleanMay 23 23:35
schestowitzNow I boil 15 at onceMay 23 23:35
schestowitzeggs are about 6gram of protein, depending on sizeMay 23 23:35
trmancoyeah, I haven't boiled any yet... usually just fry them with oilive oilMay 23 23:35
trmancoolive*May 23 23:36
schestowitzand cereal can be good for fibreMay 23 23:36
schestowitzIt's also easy to make/washMay 23 23:36
schestowitzI can eat it whole I work on the PCMay 23 23:36
trmancoyour diet might be really similar to mineMay 23 23:36
schestowitzProbablyMay 23 23:36
schestowitzIt's simply, not much cookingMay 23 23:36
schestowitzI gained weight recently, without getting much fatterMay 23 23:37
trmancoI eat bran cereal in the morning with milkMay 23 23:37
trmancoso did iMay 23 23:37
schestowitzI think it's more thanks to diet, exercise does not help in excessMay 23 23:37
trmancomy bf% increased yet my abs are starting to pop outMay 23 23:37
schestowitzI split my meals more to improve digestionMay 23 23:37
trmancono insulin spikesMay 23 23:37
trmancogood ideaMay 23 23:37
trmancoI do this when I canMay 23 23:37
schestowitzbran? Same hereMay 23 23:38
schestowitztrmanco: easy if you work from home, like I do...May 23 23:38
trmancothen I eat 2 chicken breasts at lunchMay 23 23:38
schestowitzcan make breaks between parts of mealMay 23 23:38
schestowitzyou like 2 breasts, doncha?May 23 23:39
trmanco4 tablespoons of peanut butter and 4 whole grain slices of bread before workout or just as a snackMay 23 23:39
trmancoLOLMay 23 23:39
schestowitz:-)May 23 23:39
trmancocoincidenceMay 23 23:39
schestowitzI know..May 23 23:39
trmancoI take whey isolate right after I'm done with workoutMay 23 23:40
trmancothen tuna, and I call it a day :)May 23 23:40
trmancoso, is the bot stable?May 23 23:43
schestowitzyes, more than before recentlyMay 23 23:43
schestowitzMy connection too has been more stableMay 23 23:43
trmancoah, greatMay 23 23:44
trmancodon't give me  all the credit thoughMay 23 23:45
trmanco:PMay 23 23:45
schestowitzI think the connectivity sometimes dropped itMay 23 23:46
schestowitzAnd it use to cough at Ogg/MP3 linksMay 23 23:46
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