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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/73070861170642944 | May 25 00:05 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: Very interesting analysis by @WHDAPatentLaw: Google off to good start in reexamination of Oracle Java patents http://bit.ly/maI7t0 | May 25 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | "Very interesting" because it mentions himself? :-) | May 25 00:05 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: Your (implied?) claim that the towers fell because of the plane crashes/fires is an example of the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" logical fallacy, especially because few, if any, other steel-frame buildings have collapsed from fire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacies#Fallacy_of_False_Cause | May 25 00:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | May 25 00:53 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: In the right-hand column of this page are lots of links to evidence: http://ae911truth.org/ | May 25 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | May 25 00:55 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/aGylN.jpg | May 25 01:25 |
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| schestowitz | [00:53] <msb_> schestowitz: Your (implied?) claim that the towers fell because of the plane crashes/fires is an example of the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" logical fallacy, especially because few, if any, other steel-frame buildings have collapsed from fire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacies#Fallacy_of_False_Cause | May 25 01:26 |
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| schestowitz | How many buildings had 747s launched into them? 0. | May 25 01:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm not talking about fire | May 25 01:26 |
| schestowitz | Fire is not a 100 tons machine penetrating a building at high speed with loads of fuel | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | And in fact: | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Here we have 2 collisions | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Similar types | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | Planes | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | And same outcome | May 25 01:27 |
| schestowitz | So you see, not much coincidence, this is what the impact would do it you did it again on a third building that's similar | May 25 01:28 |
| msb_ | First, it was 757s not 747s -- 3 to 4 times heavier -- that hit the towers. Second, you are again using a fallacious argument. | May 25 01:33 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Suppose I shoot a rock at the Sun on two successive afternoons, and then I claim that the Sun set because I shot a rock at it. Is my conclusion correct? | May 25 01:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: The Sun set both times, so my rock must have done it, right? | May 25 01:36 |
| schestowitz | My point was, this was like a repeated experiment | May 25 01:42 |
| schestowitz | In both cases the outcome was the same | May 25 01:42 |
| schestowitz | As for the plane, it's a plane | May 25 01:42 |
| schestowitz | It's heavy and it carries a lot of energy inside it | May 25 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Fires just make the atoms of oxygen jiggle in a chain effort by passing through material that's not so combustable | May 25 01:43 |
| schestowitz | So these comparisons are improper | May 25 01:43 |
| schestowitz | As for the molten iron you spoke about, got any links yet? | May 25 01:44 |
| schestowitz | If not, then I'll assume the claim is based on hearsay | May 25 01:45 |
| schestowitz | And I don't see why hundred+ floors collapsing with rubble would leave iron bare where it's visible | May 25 01:45 |
| schestowitz | If the theory people try to push has substance, then the iron would be deep down, cooled down, and hardly affect all floors at all. | May 25 01:46 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Repeating what I wrote over an hour ago: | May 25 02:05 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: In the right-hand column of this page are lots of links to evidence: http://ae911truth.org/ | May 25 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | May 25 02:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cn0kf8mhS4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2YSeU3FwRk&NR=1&feature=fvwp | May 25 02:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxhKi0Nd24I&feature=related | May 25 02:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://web.mit.edu/wwwdev/cgiemail/buybuild.html | May 25 02:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/feccd7ff7bdcb4bb# " | May 25 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.01 KB | May 25 02:44 |
| schestowitz | Another fail Flatfish again showing the depth of monitoring you engage | May 25 02:44 |
| schestowitz | in on anything related to Roy. | May 25 02:44 |
| schestowitz | " | May 25 02:44 |
| schestowitz | The silly trolls only advertise the show.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/1808ab705c3ad031# | May 25 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 42.01 KB | May 25 02:45 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gn | May 25 02:45 |
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| Ender2070 | [20:24] <schestowitz> Here we have 2 collisions | May 25 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | [20:24] <schestowitz> Similar types | May 25 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | then EVERY 747 that crashes into a building will cause a controlled demolition with nanothermite | May 25 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | [20:39] <schestowitz> It's heavy and it carries a lot of energy inside it <---- link, citation needed, sources plz <----- show algorithm | May 25 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | "it carries a lot of energy inside it" <- PhD Science | May 25 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | " Fires just make the atoms of oxygen jiggle" LOL | May 25 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | [20:41] <schestowitz> As for the molten iron you spoke about, got any links yet? | May 25 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | [20:42] <schestowitz> If not, then I'll assume the claim is based on hearsay | May 25 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | the government story is all hearsay | May 25 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | besides, you publish hearsay all the time as evidence against Microsoft | May 25 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | your nokia + microsoft partnership stuff was hearsay before Nokia announced it | May 25 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | you ended up being right, by coincidence | May 25 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | you had never provided proof | May 25 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | now of course you'll just say i'm wrong without backing yourself up | May 25 04:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-japan-quake-newspaper-20110525,0,2776688.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fworld+%28L.A.+Times+-+World+News%29 | May 25 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Japan earthquake: Newspaper goes low-tech in Japan's quake zone - latimes.com .::. Size~: 192.78 KB | May 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | 10 years after the incident msb_ and Ender2070 bring up a discussion that deligitimises the forum even though no *new* evidence has in fact been gathered. Please, can we keep politics in this channel, which was basically designated to deal with off-topic stuff? | May 25 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/akuckartz/status/73314527785127936 https://twitter.com/akuckartz/status/73315312585539584 | May 25 11:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @akuckartz: @schestowitz Better configure the repository. See http://www.jitsi.org/index.php/Main/DebianRepository | May 25 11:45 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @akuckartz: @schestowitz #sip-communicator was simply renamed to #jitsi because it is no longer just about #SIP but also about #XMPP/Jingle | May 25 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Interesting, I did wonder about that... | May 25 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://i.imgur.com/Nsb4J.jpg | May 25 14:59 |
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| MinceR | :> | May 25 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | > How can I keep my address from showing up in IRC? Is there a way to | May 25 15:45 |
| schestowitz | > anonymize it like with Tor or something? | May 25 15:45 |
| schestowitz | There are Freenode cloaks that can be acquired by contacting the staff at #freenode. This basically swaps IP addresses with a string of one's choice. | May 25 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Some people do insist in staying anonymous | May 25 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe fear of Microsoft retribution | May 25 15:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqp1hrY9UVg | May 25 15:53 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: If I wanted to resurrect something on COLA like your previous news service I think you recently recommended the content on identi.ca. It appears from identi.ca's TOS that its content can be redistributed to Usenet. And apparently it has a couple of APIs for downloading selected content. But it looks like the identi.ca posts would have to be selected and edited in order to be suitable -- interesting, useful, etc | May 25 16:17 |
| msb_ | -- for posting to Usenet. Am I correct in thinking that you manually selected and edited the news items that you used to post to COLA, and that this would still have to be done today. So it would not be possible to simply set up some software to do it unattended? | May 25 16:17 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: COLA severely needs a flood of good content these days. Most of the threads now are started by the Microsoft propaganda agents. | May 25 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Let me check something... | May 25 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... would be tricky | May 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Also, it would encourage the trolls to post more libel about me | May 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Those gangsters don't care about the law | May 25 17:01 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/EQeyO.jpg | May 25 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/73421656734973952 | May 25 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jonobacon: @schestowitz lol, kinda - it is important that we protect the TM or we lose it, but we strive to do this in a positive way of empowering. | May 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Net effect is the same. It's Canonical PR. | May 25 17:42 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Regarding "trolls" posting libel: Sociopaths run Microsoft, the US, British, Israeli, and many other govts, most of the mainstream media, the weapons companies, etc, etc. | May 25 17:48 |
| msb_ | All of these entities harm others to benefit themselves, which is sociopathic behavior. If you google mark bilk you'll find libel from Gary Flatfish Stewart (lots of it), and from members of the COINTELPRO-type gang that's trying to deceive people into thinking that the 9/11 researchers are crackpots (the gang members insist that no planes hit the WTC, etc., and I expose them on my website). | May 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | are you saying that some people insult the sceptics while pretending to be the "real sceptics"? | May 25 17:54 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Anyone who fights any of this evil -- Microsoft, mass lies and mass murders by the US govt -- 2,000,000 people murdered in Afghanistan and Iraq using 9/11 as the false pretext -- is going to get libelled by sociopaths hired or otherwise motivated by these entities. | May 25 17:54 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Exactly! | May 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Wow, nasty tricks | May 25 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I know companies that use these strategies | May 25 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Fake opposition that they fund, e.g against smoking | May 25 17:55 |
| msb_ | See this page for my writeup on them: http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.html | May 25 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The No-WTC-Planes/Video-Fakery/Energy-Beams Disinformation Gang .::. Size~: 14.87 KB | May 25 17:55 |
| msb_ | I regard all the libel against me as a badge of courage. Fortunately not a _red_ badge of courage! 8^) | May 25 17:56 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: When you were posting your excellent news service to COLA, the Microsoft Agents attacked you far more than anyone else. Because of course Microsoft hates the truth being told about it, and hates and attacks any competition. Sociopaths! | May 25 17:59 |
| msb_ | Sociopaths seek power, and when they get it they bring other sociopaths into the organization at various levels. Sociopaths work well with one another. I can't imagine what goes on in their minds, but they do cooperate somehow. I guess sharks don't attack each other if they have easier prey available. | May 25 18:03 |
| msb_ | sott.net has a lot of insight on this topic | May 25 18:03 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/my-passion-outside-of-work/ | May 25 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: My passion outside of work « Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 34.99 KB | May 25 18:05 |
| schestowitz | sott? | May 25 18:05 |
| msb_ | Signs Of The Times -- run by Laura Knight-Jadczyk | May 25 18:08 |
| msb_ | Very bright woman, has written lots of books about how the world really works. | May 25 18:08 |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/#PSYCHO | May 25 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/RSYko.jpg | May 25 18:12 |
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| msb_ | How is Neelie Kroes on open source? | May 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz | so and so.. | May 25 18:17 |
| msb_ | The EU is scary. The sale of almost all medicinal herbs was just banned in England due to a directive from the EU. | May 25 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/73436055742857216 | May 25 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jonobacon: @schestowitz: not really - the net effect is protecting trademarks so the brand meets the needs of the community and the company | May 25 18:19 |
| schestowitz | It's not "protect". That's part of the spin even patent trolls use. | May 25 18:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/O5mVt.jpg | May 25 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Here's the Wrongy biz http://vimeo.com/23394772 | May 25 22:55 |
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