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schestowitzmsb_ "Senior Defense Official Caught Hedging on U.S. Involvement in Stuxnet" is the sort of report we have been hoping for and <em>Wired</em> <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/defense-department-stuxnet/" title="Senior Defense Official Caught Hedging on U.S. Involvement in Stuxnet">gives it to us now</a>:</p>"May 27 01:34
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schestowitz"Remember that the NSA recommends Vista 7 [[cref 48722 1], [cref 48413 2], [cref 48337 3]] and will mostly like recommend <a href="http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_8_Reality_Log" title="Vista 8 Reality Log">Vista 8</a> too because the back doors are 'free' (free of charge, with all editions). Sadly for Microsoft (and the NSA, which provided Microsoft-friendly Web statistics a few months back), Windows is losing its May 27 01:34
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schestowitzfoothold and <a href="http://www.cringely.com/2011/05/steve-ballmers-nightmare/" title="Steve Ballmer’s Nightmare">Cringely writes about it</a> in "Steve Ballmer’s Nightmare":"May 27 01:34
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schestowitz"What if everyone in the world used programs whose source code can be audited?"May 27 01:34
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/xPBkK.jpgMay 27 09:44
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MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/1998-12-02/May 27 10:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 27.49 KBMay 27 10:52
schestowitz> With all the problems with Vista 7 and 8, why not take a look again atMay 27 10:53
schestowitz> the original VistA?May 27 10:53
schestowitz> May 27 10:53
schestowitz> http://www.ubuntudoctorsguild.org/public/index.php/Astronaut_VistAMay 27 10:53
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schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/lqK04 http://i.imgur.com/YtVXg.jpgMay 27 11:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKYjpetqYWI&NR=1May 27 13:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube         - ‪How 'Lucy' Got Her Name‬‏ .::. Size~: 128.7 KBMay 27 13:25
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sebsebsebhiMay 27 13:26
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/May 27 13:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 27.92 KBMay 27 13:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/74699535May 27 13:41
TechrightsBot-sc@Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Friday, 27-May-11 12:03:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, coz now #Fedora 15 is where #unity is called Gnome Shell and we live in perfect #harmony <SCNR> ;-)May 27 13:41
schestowitzYs, way to track the slavesMay 27 13:41
schestowitz"free" phones...May 27 13:41
schestowitzFrom employerMay 27 13:41
schestowitzSo you can be harassed even off workMay 27 13:41
schestowitz"I can't use this phone. It's my WORK phone"May 27 13:41
schestowitzIOW, a curseMay 27 13:41
schestowitzbetter get a free car from employersMay 27 13:42
schestowitzBut it's only ever borrowedMay 27 13:42
oiaohmYep then you can place a on board gps unit in the car in the form of a car phone.May 27 13:42
oiaohmSo you can trace user everywhere.May 27 13:43
schestowitzthat tooMay 27 13:46
schestowitz"I was ill yesterday, couldn't come to work"May 27 13:46
schestowitzThey don't even need to check you online (usually the CIA directory of Facek00k)May 27 13:46
oiaohmThey recent skype crack is really a interesting one.May 27 13:50
schestowitzmakes it more "legal" with authoritiesMay 27 13:53
oiaohmthe interesting question is will the method work against other encryptions like mobile phones.May 27 13:56
MinceRGSM is pretty weak to begin withMay 27 14:00
MinceRall sorts of naive in-house proprietary algorithmsMay 27 14:00
MinceRthey fixed that in UMTS, thoughMay 27 14:00
oiaohmMinceR: I was meaning the new UMTSMay 27 14:02
oiaohmReally new methods sometimes can open a pandoras box.May 27 14:02
schestowitzRe: some feedbackMay 27 15:13
schestowitz> If you asked me, I'd say that pdf was an elaborate prank from a mono fan but May 27 15:13
schestowitz> I'll take it seriously and advise you on the actual suggestions.  Forgive me May 27 15:13
schestowitz> if I've overlooked any good ideas in the letter as I try to pull something May 27 15:13
schestowitz> useful from it.May 27 15:13
schestowitz> May 27 15:13
schestowitz> There are two broad groups of suggestions, one aimed at getting users involved May 27 15:13
schestowitz> and the other at organizing Techrights and plans.  Despite being grouped as May 27 15:13
schestowitz> two tips, the advice for both goals is offered in no particular order and is May 27 15:13
schestowitz> mixed in with other advice.  The reader, in an unlikely fashion, seems to be May 27 15:13
schestowitz> unaware that most of the organizational work has already been done on the May 27 15:14
schestowitz> site's main page.  They also seem aware of the feedback mechanisms.  An May 27 15:14
schestowitz> entirely separate suggestion, related to goals, is to personalize the issues.May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> Soliciting user feedback on every page is a good idea, so I suggest a May 27 15:14
schestowitz> "Contributing to Techrights" page.  You already solicit input with comments May 27 15:14
schestowitz> and invitations to IRC that work with any browser.  The suggested quote would May 27 15:14
schestowitz> leave little room for actual articles but it would make a nice introduction to May 27 15:14
schestowitz> contacts and other information on a contributing to techrights page.  This May 27 15:14
schestowitz> page can also have links to current tasks and campaigns.  May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> Don't spend so much time planning and organizing that you don't get anything May 27 15:14
schestowitz> else done.  Planning is mostly useless because Techrights is reactive and May 27 15:14
schestowitz> might be best that way.   The Free Software Foundation does a good job or May 27 15:14
schestowitz> organizing campaigns and other positive action.  Techrights does not have the May 27 15:14
schestowitz> size or physical presence to be effective at that.  What has been done well is May 27 15:14
schestowitz> news and analysis that match the very concise definition of the site on the May 27 15:14
schestowitz> main page,May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> "Techrights, part of Bytes Media, is a progressive site which supports May 27 15:14
schestowitz> software freedom and advocates digital diversity through standardisation May 27 15:14
schestowitz> (naturally, it is against monopoly)."May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> The easy way to be effective is to stick to your core competency, point to May 27 15:14
schestowitz> other excellent efforts and accept good help when it comes around.  Groklaw, May 27 15:14
schestowitz> for example, has already made litigation indexes, so it is pointless for May 27 15:14
schestowitz> Techrights to do more than point to them and archive them in case of disaster.  May 27 15:14
schestowitz> Richard Stallman is good at getting people who chat with him engaged in May 27 15:14
schestowitz> specific tasks that they seem interested in.  That seems to be a good way to May 27 15:14
schestowitz> grow the site if you are interested in growth.  May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> It might be time to reorganize the side panels.  The "An invade, divide, and May 27 15:14
schestowitz> conquer Grand Plan"  still describes Microsoft's strategy but is largely May 27 15:14
schestowitz> historical with the demise of Novell. May 27 15:14
schestowitz> May 27 15:14
schestowitz> There's plenty of evidence that the letter is an elaborate troll.   I disagree May 27 15:14
schestowitz> strongly with the assertion that rights are legal constructs rather than May 27 15:14
schestowitz> matters of ethics and justice, and think the author understands this.  May 27 15:14
schestowitz> Microsoft is engaged in "information warfare", rights advocates are engaged in May 27 15:14
schestowitz> something else.  Sun Tzu is a something Microsoft people used to fool around May 27 15:14
schestowitz> with thirty years ago.  The White House references are really odd, even May 27 15:15
schestowitz> racist, especially the bit about Microsoft not paying up a 4 trillion dollar May 27 15:15
schestowitz> fine because Bill Gates is giving Obama money.  In good troll fashion, the May 27 15:15
schestowitz> suggestions are incoherently organized, so it is difficult to pull an overall May 27 15:15
schestowitz> picture of action out, and hypocritically the letter accuses Techrights of May 27 15:15
schestowitz> lack of organization.  I'd like to laugh at it but the author might have been May 27 15:15
schestowitz> serious.  May 27 15:15
schestowitzThanks for the kind thoughts. We'll talk about them in IRC.May 27 15:17
schestowitz^^ re the reader's feedbackMay 27 15:17
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/74722093May 27 20:08
TechrightsBot-sc@Katherine Noyes (noyesk)'s status on Friday, 27-May-11 18:37:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Wow, thanks for the plug! :)May 27 20:08
schestowitzMy good friend has just joined twitter. Maybe you guys want to follow him.May 27 20:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/74190326251794432May 27 20:12
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @mikec1972 Hey there, Mr. Fitness, how goes it? http://is.gd/jW3IMDMay 27 20:12
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Mr. Fitness 2008 Photos .::. Size~: 29.73 KBMay 27 20:12
schestowitzmikec1972May 27 20:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/editingwhiz/status/74189738042601472May 27 20:15
TechrightsBot-sc@editingwhiz: Off work early, free with no agenda in NYC the rest of today and tomorrow. Nice weather, too.May 27 20:15
schestowitzHmm.. he edits eWEEK now? didn't know..May 27 20:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/74193097134841858May 27 20:23
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @mikec1972 I've just found @NewtonHeathCCMay 27 20:23
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ender2070_33http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=15519May 27 22:31
TechrightsBot-scTitle: ’We will bury you!’ Vice-Chairman of Russian Duma threatens world with Tsunami-WMDs (Video) .::. Size~: 16.44 KBMay 27 22:31
ender2070_33http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/perfidious-albion-an-introduction-to-the-secret-history-of-the-british-empireMay 27 22:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Perfidious Albion: An Introduction to the Secret History of the British Empire  | New Dawn : The World's Most Unusual Magazine .::. Size~: 72.27 KBMay 27 22:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mikec1972/status/74221278160093184May 27 23:47
TechrightsBot-sc@mikec1972: @schestowitz alright matey, late one tonight unf'ly, should be at The Midland  Sunday afternoon, 5 rounds etc...May 27 23:47
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