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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mozilla F1 allows sending links to social media sites... but no Identica support? Fuck that http://ur1.ca/2bttn !identica | May 03 00:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan the only time OpenID has ever worked reliably for me has been on !Identica | May 03 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New Assange interview on media, revolutions http://alturl.com/epj3i | May 03 00:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] " !Facebook in particular is the most appalling spying machine that has ever been invented."~Julian Assange !q http://ur1.ca/42i8o | May 03 00:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] What's so great about a buckeye??? http://ur1.ca/42idf | May 03 00:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bgiltrap/@bgiltrap] http://bit.ly/jWYAkD Chipping Away at Open Source Hardware | May 03 00:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks releases over 1,000 US embassy cables on Ecuador, other countries http://alturl.com/izqe6 | May 03 00:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Cast my vote in !elxn41 | May 03 00:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ErinLoxam RT @chrisdca: Americans on Twitter encouraging Cdns to email them early !elxn41 results, they'll tweet them. #tweettheresults | May 03 01:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] mt @BlueShoes55 With Twitter Black Outs !CPC ██ in ████ ridings. !LPC ███. !GPC ██ ██ and !NDP ██ with ███ seats! !elxn41 #tweettheresults | May 03 01:18 | |
| GoForbes28 | hi all | May 03 01:19 |
| GoForbes28 | hi schesowitz | May 03 01:20 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz | May 03 01:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Not going to dent or tweet !elxn41 results because I want to get my ms of my book-book uploaded for the final-final time tonight !selfPub | May 03 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucGSOqbPiyk | May 03 01:22 |
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| GoForbes28 | just voted not too long ago | May 03 01:23 |
| GoForbes28 | I would tell you who I voted for, but then I break the law here | May 03 01:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Film students! Enter Linux video contest, be picked by Linux founder, Linus, & showcase ur talent! http://bit.ly/m8fqDR < via @lafilmschool | May 03 01:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] living in a formerly solid blue zone, i figure I will hear about the impending status quo upset by the gnashing of teeth or not !elxn41 | May 03 01:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Great news! #OpenSuse !Fedora !Mageia !Linux #distros #Java #Maven collaboration: http://ur1.ca/42i6q http://ur1.ca/42ikk | May 03 01:25 | |
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| schestowitz | @be picked by Linux founder, Linus@ | May 03 01:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 130 million downloads on 2011-05-03 00:32 UTC | May 03 01:35 | |
| schestowitz | They play in celeb culture | May 03 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: who what? | May 03 01:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Release Manning from jail & Assange from house arrest! Tomorrow is World Press Freedom Day http://ow.ly/4LFUS | May 03 01:47 | |
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| schestowitz | linus is being portrayed as a hero by the linux foundation | May 03 01:57 |
| schestowitz | But TBF, FSF does the same for Stallman | May 03 01:57 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gn | May 03 01:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @mageia #Mageia will be at Solution Linux 2011 (French open source event in Paris) http://bit.ly/jZJjN6 | May 03 02:18 | |
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| GoForbes28 | schestowitz | May 03 02:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #tweettheresults Warning - there are #CPC posting #bots which are triggered by certain phrases such as #ndpminority - read with care | May 03 02:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Nice. Explains the unusually high #CPC twitter "activity" reported on CBC | May 03 02:23 | |
| GoForbes28 | hi Ender_nothome | May 03 02:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @mageia #Mageia will be at Solution Linux 2011 (French open source event in Paris) http://bit.ly/jZJjN6 | May 03 02:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovruni/@ovruni] Wikileaks: EEUU sabía de guarida de Bin Laden desde 2008: http://ur1.ca/42kmc !wikileaks | May 03 02:27 | |
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| GoForbes28 | gnufreex_? | May 03 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Only in Canada - Don Cherry & Ron MacLean on the Election Results 'Pregame' show #tweettheresults | May 03 02:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody: US 2011 Special 301 Report - http://1.usa.gov/kkbh35 isn't it time they stopped playground bullying? #intellectualmonopolies | May 03 02:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy." -- Martin Luther King, Jr | May 03 02:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 The waiting is hard, especially if you have any hopes. | May 03 02:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Are you very nervous tonight? :) | May 03 02:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 Cool. | May 03 02:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I hope every Canadian sitting glued to the Internet with baited breath looks at http://www.fairvote.ca/ !elxn41 !cdnpoli | May 03 02:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No matter the outcome of !elxn41 !Canada *needs* electoral reform http://www.fairvote.ca/ | May 03 02:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Watching /The Phantom Menace/: this movie is a huge Star Wars ripoff | May 03 02:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] !gnome 3 is currently not logging me in #bogus I just get my background | May 03 02:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 All we can do right now is cross our fingers. Try to keep busy. If your tummy is a mess saltine crackers are good. ;) | May 03 02:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #tweettheresults hilarious watching the early results - 1 poll reporting - looks like only 1 household voted :( | May 03 02:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Yep, #cpc bots. Sample comment 'are you on acid or something !' #tweettheresults | May 03 02:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Which riding? | May 03 02:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 I love blood sports #tweettheresults | May 03 02:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty Have compassion for all beings rich and poor alike, each has their suffering. Some suffer too much, others suffer too li ... | May 03 03:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean @laurelrusswurm What's a good Identi account or website for up-to-the-minute election numbers? #tweettheresults | May 03 03:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 The world became a better place when they started making Pepto Bismol in caplets that you don't have to chew !hooray! | May 03 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 I am soooo happy that I will never have to choke down liquid Pepto Bismol Again/ | May 03 03:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #tweettheresults Betting that local drug stores near campaign headquarters sell out on gravol tonight | May 03 03:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Richmond Hill. Bryon Wilfert, a nice guy is our current MP. | May 03 03:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Nice to hear, but from what I last saw, the overall picture isn't looking good. | May 03 03:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #tweettheresults Looks like the @cpc campaign may have stalled out. I'm expecting a drop in numbers now. | May 03 03:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 No, looks like #lpc is taking a pasting. | May 03 03:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean This could be the last week for Internet privacy rights. Use BitTorrent while you still can. | May 03 03:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 What you expect *me* to risk an ulcer? | May 03 03:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 lol | May 03 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] I hope folks are happy about giving the Harper Alliance party a dictatorship. Well done everyone. | May 03 03:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @goforbes28 For the Conservatives, that was sarcasm. I know this concept can be difficult to grasp for you. | May 03 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x1101 @fabsh I declare 'war on ignorance' | May 03 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 I don't have an ISP. | May 03 03:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Actually it's not over yet. If I'm reading things right, the #cpc numbers are about to drop. | May 03 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Is that a joke? | May 03 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Appreciate your more sensitive eyes for numbers. :) | May 03 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 There is a "Federal Election Results" box on the right side of the page here: http://ur1.ca/42kv3 | May 03 03:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 No, serious. It's based on my reading of the youth vote. We'll see if I'm right. | May 03 03:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Oh, I'm serious too. The primal fear from my stomach is clouding my mind. I need objective people. | May 03 03:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] If anything, my subscriber count has increased tonight. Champaign is in order! | May 03 03:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @reality Can see the differences in my social groups RE: Bin Laden. Uni: "Did it really happen?", Identica: "Was it right?" | May 03 03:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] For those who need to relax during the election results, watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0qBaBb1Y-U #philcollins | May 03 03:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @TerryCormier It's not just citizens who #tweettheresults @globaltvnews breaks the law as they #tweettheresults and pay to promote tweet | May 03 03:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @goforbes28 @rms I have a feeling your efforts in Canada may be needed more than ever very soon. | May 03 03:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 467 tser : I get an idea for who should own the Mezem. http://bit.ly/maR2Nc #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | May 03 03:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 467 tser v. 2 I sign a huge passle of documents. http://bit.ly/maR2Nc #amwriting #Chevenga #weblit | May 03 03:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] As I said, well done folks on giving Harper a dictatorship. Your privacy and human rights widdle away in 5...4...3... | May 03 03:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Trending #2 in world - Tweet it up Canadians! Let's rule for a day #tweettheresults | May 03 03:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 It's not over yet. | May 03 03:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : I award the Mezem to the person most fitting. http://bit.ly/maR2Nc #Chevenga #weblit #reading #scifi | May 03 03:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean What do you think the chances of our friends from "eBaum's World" getting involved? ;) | May 03 03:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean What do you think the chances are of our friends from "eBaum's World" getting involved? | May 03 03:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Canada *needs* electoral reform http://www.fairvote.ca/ !elxn41 #tweettheresults | May 03 03:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 the numbers are still tenative. | May 03 03:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Your optimism is commendable. Whatever the result, I would like to thank you for your service tonight. | May 03 03:48 | |
| Ender2070 | Can't say I like Harper but imo hes the least worse of among the choices | May 03 03:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 #cpc 118 ##ndp 65 #lpc 16 #bq 0 #GPC 0 Current elected. | May 03 03:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean @goforbes28 #cpc 118 ##ndp 65 #lpc 16 #bq 0 #GPC 0 Current elected. | May 03 03:52 | |
| Ender2070 | I highly doubt they will implement carbon tax and Tony Clement said he would block Bell Canada from its UBB | May 03 03:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @wayneborean @goforbes28 #cpc 118 ##ndp 65 #lpc 16 #bq 0 #GPC 0 Current elected. | May 03 03:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 #cpc 124 #ndp 74 #lpc 17 #bq 0 #GPC 0 Current elected. | May 03 03:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @somecanuckchick US North, Internet surveillance, deficit trillions, over-budget fighter jets, super jails, etc.—all imminent. !elxn41 | May 03 03:53 | |
| GoForbes28 | Ender2070: Have you seen his copyright reform? | May 03 03:56 |
| GoForbes28 | His crime reform? | May 03 03:56 |
| GoForbes28 | His Internet surveillance? | May 03 03:56 |
| GoForbes28 | His corruption? | May 03 03:56 |
| GoForbes28 | His US influence? | May 03 03:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Seriously, if you think he is the best of the three, then you must have a very narrow view. | May 03 03:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't think software patents are impossible either. | May 03 03:57 |
| GoForbes28 | And his economic policy based on pass decision is simply inconsistent, to use a simple term. | May 03 04:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wayneborean @goforbes28 !cpc 124 !ndp 74 !lpc 17 !bq 0 !GPC 0 Currently elected. | May 03 04:00 | |
| GoForbes28 | Ender2070: your reasoning sucks, and I hope you enjoy a dictatorship | May 03 04:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 They can stretch a majority into the five year range. | May 03 04:03 | |
| GoForbes28 | And yes, I am very angry right now | May 03 04:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Justin Trudeau, you have 5 years; get started now. #justintrudeau | May 03 04:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 I'm sorry, I don't follow that. What has Justin Trudeau done exactly? Personally, I prefer democracy to hereditary government. | May 03 04:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @YoungFineWine: RT @Torontoism: Iggy's $300 million bet got Jack & Olivia room service @ Stornoway until Oct. 19, 2015. #elxn41 #cp24elxn | May 03 04:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vryka: EC 474 - Overnight party. http://bit.ly/8Z0qUq #weblit #webfic #fantasty #Minis #scifi | May 03 04:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva pacman -S installs, pacman -Syu updates, pacman -Rs removes it and unneeded dependences, see pacman -h for more ;) | May 03 04:23 | |
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| Ender2070 | Tony Clement said he would block Bell Canada from its UBB | May 03 04:24 |
| Ender2070 | no matter what its a dictatorship | May 03 04:25 |
| Ender2070 | they all have ties to corporations and bankers | May 03 04:26 |
| Ender2070 | the NDP can be traced back to Karl Marx via The Fabian Society and the Douglas-Coldwell foundation | May 03 04:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 I don't believe in "leader" magic. The current electoral system is a mess, when 30something percent can be a majority !elxn41 | May 03 04:27 | |
| Ender2070 | Tommy Douglas, NDP founder, advocated a eugenics policy that tested parents before allowing children - communism | May 03 04:27 |
| Ender2070 | Harper, went to Bilderberg | May 03 04:27 |
| Ender2070 | the Liberal party was corrupted back in the 80's with Lester Pearson and Trudeau | May 03 04:27 |
| Ender2070 | yet, Ignatieff didn't attend Bilderberg like Cretein and Martin - so he had no chance and the polls show | May 03 04:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @digimer: RT @letoams: Using #openswan IPsec & IPv6 (how to avoid Harper government tapping your internet traffic) http://bit.ly/kDL2UU | May 03 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean RT @digimer: RT @letoams: Using #openswan IPsec & IPv6 (how to avoid Harper government tapping your internet traffic) ht ... | May 03 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 True enough. Jack certainly didn't hurt the NDP. | May 03 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Is this what you use? | May 03 04:28 | |
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| Ender2070 | Bloc are terrorists | May 03 04:28 |
| Ender2070 | Green party is simply stupid and full of gullible idiots | May 03 04:29 |
| Ender2070 | The Canadian Action Party is the only party I would vote for and I couldn't | May 03 04:30 |
| Ender2070 | so i didnt vote | May 03 04:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Casting dice to work out Canadian Electoral numbers: http://is.gd/BXPprS #vote2011 #elxn41 | May 03 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 I will be as of tomorrow. Even though technically I don't exist. | May 03 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk thanks. pacman -h for some reason didn't help me much, but on-line docs made more sense | May 03 04:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unspeakable Vault .::. Size~: 9.62 KB | May 03 04:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Please reveal your secret somehow. | May 03 04:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Simple, I don't have an ISP account. | May 03 04:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @somecanuckchick Voter turnout for #elxn41 was lower than #elxn40 !cdnpoli #cv11< parties still need to address the disenfranchised | May 03 04:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean How does that work? | May 03 04:33 | |
| GoForbes28 | Ender2070: You are useless | May 03 04:40 |
| Ender2070 | pardon me? | May 03 04:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @tonyyarusso Conservatives only earned 123 seats, so why is the electoral system going to award them 168 or so? Fix it now. !elxn41 | May 03 04:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Can you send me your method of implementation once you have done it? Thx. | May 03 04:40 | |
| GoForbes28 | I mean you in a general term | May 03 04:40 |
| GoForbes28 | as in the people didn't vote | May 03 04:40 |
| GoForbes28 | simple as that | May 03 04:40 |
| Ender2070 | why should I? | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | it's a rigged system and the voter always loses | May 03 04:41 |
| GoForbes28 | If you think everything is going to be fine, go right ahead a live in your vacuum | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | I don't think everything will be fine | May 03 04:41 |
| GoForbes28 | With that attitude, nothing will get done | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | you're the gullible fool | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | the system will do whatever it wants | May 03 04:41 |
| GoForbes28 | don't you think if everybody voted, we'd be in a much better situtation than what we ahve now? | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | we get the illusion of freedom of choice | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | nope | May 03 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | I think if everyone voted it would be exactly the same | May 03 04:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] updated the #CBC early results page and the !cpc bar graph DROPPED to below 40% ... !elxn41 | May 03 04:42 | |
| Ender2070 | its an illusion | May 03 04:42 |
| GoForbes28 | very convienent for you | May 03 04:42 |
| Ender2070 | you think you have freedom because you can go to the store and pick 31 flavours of ice cream, and vote and pick 5 different candiddates | May 03 04:42 |
| Ender2070 | meanwhile | May 03 04:42 |
| Ender2070 | the LOBBYISTS do not change | May 03 04:42 |
| Ender2070 | nor do we elect them | May 03 04:42 |
| GoForbes28 | oh , and if you think Tony Clement blocking UBB means shit, then your naivety astounds me | May 03 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | every candidate we are allowed and authorized to vote for, will hand Canada over to World Government | May 03 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | I simply refuse to vote for the lesser of a bunch of evil people | May 03 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | I voted for myself and I didn't waste time spoiling my vote | May 03 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | I had things to do | May 03 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | fuck your system and rigged bullshit | May 03 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | I predicted the outcome before today too | May 03 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | based simply on research of the parties | May 03 04:44 |
| GoForbes28 | so now what are you going to do? | May 03 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | what can I do? | May 03 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | I'm a slave to the system | May 03 04:45 |
| GoForbes28 | How about not believing that? | May 03 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | its the truth | May 03 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | you pick your dictator and vote on none of the laws | May 03 04:46 |
| GoForbes28 | It may be the truth, but not doing anything about it doesn't change your cowardice | May 03 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | its not cowardice | May 03 04:46 |
| GoForbes28 | I am willing to try and find some way to make it better | May 03 04:46 |
| GoForbes28 | you aren't | May 03 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | whats the point of voting when they can alter the results electronically like they did with Bush? | May 03 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | you just sit around and mope | May 03 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | What's the point of anything in the world | May 03 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | i dont sit around and mope | May 03 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | might as well just kill yourself | May 03 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | go fuck yourself | May 03 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | just because im not a gullible idiot like you doesnt mean I have no purpose | May 03 04:47 |
| GoForbes28 | And I'm not saying I disagree on your with every point | May 03 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | i dont waste my time on pointless activities | May 03 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | So what are you going to do? | May 03 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | What will your time be spent upon? | May 03 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | im going to keep researching the grand conspiracy for world government | May 03 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | it goes back quite far | May 03 04:48 |
| GoForbes28 | and how will you act on this information? | May 03 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | letting everyone know about what I find | May 03 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | waking people up | May 03 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | ever heard of the Liberal-NDP accord? | May 03 04:49 |
| GoForbes28 | no | May 03 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | back in the 80's | May 03 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | the liberals and ndp, who didnt win, used the governor general to setup a coalition government | May 03 04:50 |
| GoForbes28 | which is completely legal | May 03 04:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Congratulations !NDP ... !Canada 's need for !electoralreform means you'll be less effective in the house than when you had 36 seats !elxn41 | May 03 04:50 | |
| Ender2070 | yes and you know why | May 03 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | because the governor general gets to pick | May 03 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | not us | May 03 04:50 |
| GoForbes28 | we did pick | May 03 04:50 |
| GoForbes28 | a majority didn't want conservative | May 03 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | no | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | es | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | the liberals and ndp destroyed democracy | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | bullshit | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | the most voted conervative | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | no | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | they had to combine | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | the most voted something else | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | the liberals by themselves didnt beat them | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | the ndp by themselves didnt beat them | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | so what? | May 03 04:51 |
| GoForbes28 | combined they didd | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | thats bullshit | May 03 04:51 |
| *enthymeme has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | May 03 04:51 | |
| GoForbes28 | no, that's what the majority wanted | May 03 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | it only worked because the Queen really rules Canada | May 03 04:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 At least one !GPC member (Elizabeth May) seems to be about to win a seat. | May 03 04:52 | |
| GoForbes28 | the majority didn't want a conservative government | May 03 04:52 |
| Ender2070 | whats the point if the governor general decides differently | May 03 04:52 |
| GoForbes28 | Plus, a coaltion actually requires cooperation in order to survive | May 03 04:52 |
| Ender2070 | then we got Trudeau who ruined the country | May 03 04:53 |
| GoForbes28 | unlike a minority, in which cooperation depends on the mood of the day | May 03 04:53 |
| GoForbes28 | I would say Mulroney did, but whatever | May 03 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | Mulroney amplified the dept Trudeau left | May 03 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | Trudeau also didnt give us property rights because he was a communist | May 03 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | seriously | May 03 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | not seriously | May 03 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | one of his good friends was Harold Laski, Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong. He opened up trade relations from Canada to all the communist countries. | May 03 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | all government were running high inflation because the economists of the time didn't take into account | May 03 04:54 |
| GoForbes28 | which rightly pissed off Americans, an action I endorse | May 03 04:55 |
| GoForbes28 | the phillip's curve | May 03 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | i dont endorse communism or socialism | May 03 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | or globalization | May 03 04:55 |
| GoForbes28 | I do, because otherwise the Internet would not be a reality | May 03 04:55 |
| Ender2070 | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/03/15/1374/ | May 03 04:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ten points of Communism - Qubit ArkHive .::. Size~: 30.17 KB | May 03 04:55 |
| GoForbes28 | globalization can work, we just need to kill the corporate influence | May 03 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/02/15/draft-pierre-trudeau-helped-turn-canada-over-to-the-nwo/ | May 03 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Draft: Pierre Trudeau helped turn Canada over to the NWO - Qubit ArkHive .::. Size~: 68.26 KB | May 03 04:56 |
| GoForbes28 | !google mulroney suck up united states | May 03 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Shamrock Summit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock_Summit | May 03 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Montreal Simon: How Brian Mulroney Could Hurt Stephen Harper | http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-brian-mulroney-could-hurt-stephen.html | May 03 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Brian Mulroney & George Bush: Bullpen Buddies ← Mop Up Duty ... | http://mopupduty.com/index.php/brian-mulroney-george-bush-bullpen-buddies/ | May 03 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - North American Union Timeline | http://nauresistance.org/nau-timeline/ | May 03 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | sure he was | May 03 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | mulroney went to bilderberg too | May 03 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | so did jean cretein | May 03 04:56 |
| Ender2070 | so did Paul Martin | May 03 04:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @KPCFS: RT @prisongarde: #canada ... welcome to #america | May 03 04:57 | |
| Ender2070 | Mike Harris | May 03 04:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Except the did the right economic decision in the 1990's | May 03 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | Frank McKenna | May 03 04:57 |
| GoForbes28 | the liberals I mean | May 03 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | thats because bilderberg told Paul Martin what to do and he did it | May 03 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | to cut the debt | May 03 04:57 |
| Ender2070 | now its time to put us in debt to the world bank, to assist China | May 03 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | which will become the next USA | May 03 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | model state for the planet | May 03 04:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @wayneborean RT @KPCFS: RT @prisongarde: #canada ... welcome to #america | May 03 04:58 | |
| Ender2070 | the GATT treaty moved all the manufacturing over there | May 03 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | environmentalists helped by getting manufacturing heavily taxed over here | May 03 04:59 |
| GoForbes28 | not all manufacturing, that is an overstatement | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | most of it | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | what isnt Made in China these days | May 03 04:59 |
| GoForbes28 | next, you'll be telling me of the arctic platform that transmits signals causing earthquakes | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | try finding a computer that isnt | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | you mean HAARP | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | it could have but I don't have evidence | May 03 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | it could have also been the moon, which was closer than normal | May 03 05:00 |
| Ender2070 | it could've also been a planetary alignment with Elenin, Earth and the Sun | May 03 05:00 |
| Ender2070 | which was from 3-11-11 to 3-15-11 | May 03 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | 5-21-11 to 5-25-11 | May 03 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | Earth + Mercury + Venus + Mars | May 03 05:01 |
| GoForbes28 | well, that sounds a billion times more reasonable | May 03 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | 5-21 is the next one, if the planetary alignment theory holds up | May 03 05:01 |
| GoForbes28 | and what about 2012? | May 03 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | a change in gravity would cause an earthquake | May 03 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | meh 2012 | May 03 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | new age | May 03 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | if anything happens at all it'll likely be something they'll use for eco taxes | May 03 05:03 |
| GoForbes28 | I think if there is a distrubance, it will be a human-created one | May 03 05:03 |
| Ender2070 | of course you do socialist | May 03 05:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 It is a huge victory in perception. It indicates Canadians believe them. 39.73% for !cpc 30.85 for !ndp. !fairvote !elxn41 | May 03 05:03 | |
| GoForbes28 | what | May 03 05:03 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm not a socialist | May 03 05:03 |
| Ender2070 | how else will you tax the rich (really the middle class) into poverty? | May 03 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | all the parties that werent conservative are socialist parties | May 03 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | btw | May 03 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | :) | May 03 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | I never said that the human-created disturbance wouldn't (heavily) involve the upper class | May 03 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Green is not socialist | May 03 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | yes it is | May 03 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | it's centrist if anything | May 03 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | nah | May 03 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | its left wing commie | May 03 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | all of the things they want to do are in the communist manifesto | May 03 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, like fiscal responsibility and free enterprise | May 03 05:05 |
| GoForbes28 | very communistic | May 03 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | progressive tax, take peoples land away for the environment | May 03 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | May 03 05:06 |
| GoForbes28 | And harper with his stupid spending and internet surveilance, very democratic, no? | May 03 05:06 |
| GoForbes28 | please | May 03 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | not at all | May 03 05:06 |
| GoForbes28 | Yes at all | May 03 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | when did I ever say the system was democratic? | May 03 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | its illusion | May 03 05:06 |
| GoForbes28 | What would be a democratic system in your mind? | May 03 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | the media decides | May 03 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | a democratic system would allow everyone to vote on every law | May 03 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | every candidate who ran for an election would have his whole personal background disclosed to the public | May 03 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | including every organization, fraternity, secret society and club they have ever been a member of | May 03 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | allowing everyone to vote on every law is bad for the lobbyists | May 03 05:08 |
| GoForbes28 | I just read the manifesto of the Action party | May 03 05:08 |
| GoForbes28 | some of it sounds reasonable, some of it sound naive | May 03 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | the media would have to work overtime | May 03 05:09 |
| GoForbes28 | create jobs :) | May 03 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | they are the closest party to my ideals | May 03 05:09 |
| GoForbes28 | fair enough | May 03 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | no world government, stop borrowing money from banks to make our money | May 03 05:09 |
| GoForbes28 | I still don't agree with you on manu things | May 03 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | you dont have to | May 03 05:09 |
| GoForbes28 | But I respect your opinion, and I apologize about my anger towards you | May 03 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | its alright | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | it's been a long night | May 03 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | freedom of speech | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | indeed | May 03 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | you can even hate me if you want | May 03 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | lol | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't hate you | May 03 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | sorry I used profanity towards you | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | I just find conspiracy paranoia annoying sometimes | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | likewise | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | some of it isn't paranoia of course | May 03 05:10 |
| GoForbes28 | and I can believe it | May 03 05:11 |
| GoForbes28 | I think you and I can agree that the next five years, at least, will likely be crap | May 03 05:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @WinnipegFatArse: This doesn't bode well, drunken #CPC neighbor told me soon as long-gun registry abolished open season on "the truth"! | May 03 05:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @KPCFS: RT @luckhardtjason: #cpc friend of mine told me that protests should be illegal. This is what canadians just voted for. #elxn41 | May 03 05:12 | |
| GoForbes28 | like I said | May 03 05:12 |
| GoForbes28 | and when I say 2012 could be a human-generated disaster, I mean every human, regardless of status | May 03 05:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @KPCFS: RT @ugottabekiddin: Goodbye CPP & health care. Welcome American insurance vultures have @ my wallet hi there bankruptcy #elxn41 | May 03 05:13 | |
| GoForbes28 | The Upper class would likely be the orchestrators if not direct participants | May 03 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | ohhhhh | May 03 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | thats what you mean | May 03 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | yeah it probably would be | May 03 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | but thats why Id say they would use it to tax us more | May 03 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | if not just to simply kill some of us off | May 03 05:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I can see Bill Gates shaking with the possibilities | May 03 05:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @YoungFineWine: @wayneborean My son who is just weeks shy of 18 & I just had this discussion! lmao It won't be TORY in 2015! lol | May 03 05:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Hi unregulated news and hypebole. | May 03 05:15 | |
| GoForbes28 | As Rome has shown us, following a massive change it is easy for individuals to gain power | May 03 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | they already got it | May 03 05:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Yay! It will be like what happened with Bush, except here... | May 03 05:17 | |
| Ender2070 | the plans today are: poison our food (done), poison our air (done) poison our water (done), kill us off (pending) | May 03 05:17 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, I can see that | May 03 05:17 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't think they are that smart to really understand what they are actually doing though | May 03 05:17 |
| GoForbes28 | *they are smart enough | May 03 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | if you've researched as much history as me you would consider it | May 03 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | these are very old plans | May 03 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | Marx for example predicted the EU | May 03 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | among a north american union, african union and asian union | May 03 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | H.G Wells is also very interesting | May 03 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | check out some of his non-fiction | May 03 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | copyright expired in Canada, should be easy | May 03 05:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Not for long | May 03 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | anything before 1937 is public domain | May 03 05:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 If I told you, I'd have to kill you :) | May 03 05:20 | |
| GoForbes28 | I bet 80-100 yr copyright starting in 5..4..3 | May 03 05:20 |
| GoForbes28 | :) | May 03 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | i've been watching failed copyright bills since Cretien | May 03 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | they all wanted to bring in DMCA style US copyright law | May 03 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | everytime the bill gets close they throw another election :) | May 03 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | back to the drawing board | May 03 05:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean LOL I understand. Can you help implement openswan though? | May 03 05:22 | |
| GoForbes28 | not for long | May 03 05:22 |
| GoForbes28 | I bet Cill c32 gets passed immediately | May 03 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | it wont be c32 | May 03 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | every bill that was pending is gone | May 03 05:22 |
| GoForbes28 | your right | May 03 05:22 |
| GoForbes28 | c61 | May 03 05:22 |
| GoForbes28 | with a different number letter combination | May 03 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | yeah of course | May 03 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | i watched liberals try to put it in though | May 03 05:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #elxn41 #cpc 154 #ndp 97 #lpc 29 #bq 2 #GPC 1 elected, 25 undecided currently | May 03 05:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Not yet, going to install tomorrow. | May 03 05:23 | |
| Ender2070 | lol funny people | May 03 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | installing vpns and ssl tunnels to the USA | May 03 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | Bell Canada already willingly gives that info away to the RCMP without being asked | May 03 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | Telus does it too, so does Rogers | May 03 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | Telus is more open about it, they tell you in their name | May 03 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | thats their job | May 03 05:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean No problem. Whenever you have the time, I would appreciate it. :) | May 03 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @RealCanuck: Nobody can ignore that 60% voted against #CPC who will form majority gov. Shout this fact until we get change #elxn41 | May 03 05:25 | |
| Ender2070 | they listen while you tell them ;) | May 03 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | RBC is pretty open too | May 03 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | the royal lion gripping the planet | May 03 05:26 |
| GoForbes28 | fortunately I don't have Bell Canada anymore | May 03 05:26 |
| GoForbes28 | sort of | May 03 05:26 |
| GoForbes28 | If I got Teksavvy cable, I would weed the Bell involvement completely | May 03 05:26 |
| GoForbes28 | of course, the cable is Rogers | May 03 05:27 |
| GoForbes28 | Oligopolies | May 03 05:27 |
| GoForbes28 | CRTC: Who do we bend over for today? | May 03 05:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Will write it up as blog post, after I finish next article for SemiAccurate, which is late :( | May 03 05:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 Yes. The #CBC is much to blame for their future demise. They have not been speaking up. | May 03 05:28 | |
| Ender2070 | sadly your teksavvy traffic still goes through Bell | May 03 05:32 |
| Ender2070 | which will gladly give stuff to the RCMP | May 03 05:32 |
| Ender2070 | I think the media had a big hand in the NDP coming 2nd | May 03 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | news reporting on the "NDP surge" in quebec probably got people to stop voting strategically for liberals | May 03 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | thats how I used to vote when I did | May 03 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | I used to be super extreme left wing | May 03 05:33 |
| GoForbes28 | I think central is the optimum position | May 03 05:34 |
| Ender2070 | none of them are central | May 03 05:35 |
| GoForbes28 | I also don't think copyright reform favouring legalised file sharing is a left policy | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | I think the optimum position is no wing | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | ummm | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | file sharing is already legalized for music | May 03 05:35 |
| GoForbes28 | that pretty much what centrist is | May 03 05:35 |
| GoForbes28 | no | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | yes it is | May 03 05:35 |
| GoForbes28 | that's a myth | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | no its not | May 03 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | its called private copying | May 03 05:35 |
| GoForbes28 | The levy only cover CD-R purchases | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | it has very specific terms though | May 03 05:36 |
| GoForbes28 | oh wait, you are right | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | i've done my research on this one friend | May 03 05:36 |
| GoForbes28 | damn I'm tired | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | its legal if you make a copy for yourself | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | which includes downloading from someone else | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | because you're making a copy of their file | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | and in some cases uploading (non-bit torrent) is fine | May 03 05:36 |
| Ender2070 | as long as the other person starts the copying process | May 03 05:37 |
| Ender2070 | very specific but it works =) | May 03 05:37 |
| GoForbes28 | for now | May 03 05:37 |
| Ender2070 | apple fanboi's buy my music for me ;) | May 03 05:37 |
| Ender2070 | i've been fighting against getting rid of the levy and ipod taxes | May 03 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | since it legalizes music downloading | May 03 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | its a fair trade | May 03 05:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I would fight to get rid of them | May 03 05:38 |
| GoForbes28 | since the revenue only goes to corporations | May 03 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | if you get rid of them they have the right to criminalize it | May 03 05:38 |
| GoForbes28 | they are going to criminalize it anyway regardless | May 03 05:38 |
| Ender2070 | plus | May 03 05:38 |
| GoForbes28 | they want their cake and eat it to | May 03 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | you dont get revenue when you use creative commons | May 03 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | unless you specify non-commercial | May 03 05:39 |
| GoForbes28 | well, you can, you just have to think outside the box | May 03 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | you have to use the non commercial clause to charge | May 03 05:39 |
| GoForbes28 | you know, merchandise, quality levels, that kinds of thing | May 03 05:39 |
| Ender2070 | otherwise you have no right to collect royalties | May 03 05:39 |
| GoForbes28 | and that too | May 03 05:39 |
| GoForbes28 | wouldn't that be commercial? | May 03 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | it doesnt apply to you | May 03 05:40 |
| jono | schestowitz around? | May 03 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | if you make it | May 03 05:40 |
| GoForbes28 | now | May 03 05:40 |
| GoForbes28 | no | May 03 05:40 |
| jono | I guess not | May 03 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | yes | May 03 05:40 |
| GoForbes28 | he's been away for awhile | May 03 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | you're the author | May 03 05:40 |
| jono | thanks GoForbes28 | May 03 05:40 |
| GoForbes28 | sorry, was talking to Jono | May 03 05:40 |
| Ender2070 | lol figured | May 03 05:40 |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, are you ender_nothome? | May 03 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | yes | May 03 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | thats me when im not home | May 03 05:41 |
| GoForbes28 | ah ok | May 03 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | same IP, ssh tunnel | May 03 05:41 |
| GoForbes28 | so you aren't restricted by your work ISP? | May 03 05:41 |
| Ender2070 | thats why I use an ssh tunnel | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | they use them too | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | so i get away with it | May 03 05:42 |
| GoForbes28 | What's your ISP? | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | cogeco | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | best internet i've ever had | May 03 05:42 |
| GoForbes28 | For privacy, etc? | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | 1.0MB per second on some torrents | May 03 05:42 |
| Ender2070 | its cable | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | its not rogers, and its not bell | May 03 05:43 |
| GoForbes28 | I know | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | perfection :) | May 03 05:43 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, it is still an oligopoly | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | they dont throttle torrents and the only evil is the 120gb cap | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | no oligopoly | May 03 05:43 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | theres shaw here to compete | May 03 05:43 |
| GoForbes28 | in cable world, rogers doesn't have complete monopoly | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | in Hamilton, its Shaw or Cogeco | May 03 05:43 |
| Ender2070 | when I lived in Brampton, it was Rogers or Rogers | May 03 05:44 |
| GoForbes28 | unlike telecom where it's bell bell bell | May 03 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | or Bell | May 03 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | Hamilton would be Bell too | May 03 05:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah, but they are still oligopolies unfortunately | May 03 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | i'm never giving another cent to those crooks at Hell Canada | May 03 05:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Amen | May 03 05:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Unfortunately, Cogeco simply isn't completely squeaky clean | May 03 05:44 |
| Ender2070 | none are | May 03 05:45 |
| GoForbes28 | they are just as guilty as Rogers in some areas | May 03 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | unless you're small | May 03 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | teksavvy is nice but i'd still be funding Hell Canada | May 03 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | never another cent | May 03 05:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Or your own ISP, as Wayne seems to be | May 03 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | oh rlly? | May 03 05:45 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | May 03 05:45 |
| Ender2070 | how the hell | May 03 05:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Wayne Bolean commented on this, as you can see in the logs | May 03 05:46 |
| GoForbes28 | or on Identi | May 03 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | he must be a reseller of bell | May 03 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | or rogers | May 03 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | ie using their networks | May 03 05:46 |
| GoForbes28 | didn't sound like it | May 03 05:46 |
| GoForbes28 | he said he's off the system | May 03 05:46 |
| GoForbes28 | or something like that | May 03 05:46 |
| GoForbes28 | whatever that means | May 03 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | I don't believe him | May 03 05:46 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps he works for the government | May 03 05:47 |
| Ender2070 | theres a lot of effort, hardware and money involved in an ISP for high speed communications | May 03 05:47 |
| GoForbes28 | "wayneborean | May 03 05:47 |
| GoForbes28 | @goforbes28 If I told you, I'd have to kill you :)" | May 03 05:47 |
| Ender2070 | in dialup days, you could just rent a T1 and get a bunch of modems | May 03 05:47 |
| Ender2070 | I called him on it over twitter | May 03 05:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @doctorow: RT @mgeist: RT @SusanDelacourt: Elections Canada showing 55% turnout 4 #elxn41 @ the moment; down from all-time low in 2008. | May 03 05:50 | |
| GoForbes28 | well, this election proved to be a waste of time | May 03 05:50 |
| GoForbes28 | of course, we knew this once the ball really got rolling, but whatever | May 03 05:51 |
| Ender2070 | aha | May 03 05:51 |
| Ender2070 | broken telephone | May 03 05:51 |
| Ender2070 | its his friend who owns the ISP | May 03 05:51 |
| GoForbes28 | tada | May 03 05:51 |
| Ender2070 | which means he could still be making it up but oh well | May 03 05:52 |
| Ender2070 | his friend is rich | May 03 05:52 |
| GoForbes28 | probably | May 03 05:52 |
| GoForbes28 | I mean the making up part | May 03 05:52 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, welcome to the shitty new world | May 03 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | or he has a rich friend | May 03 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | lol | May 03 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | we've had it since the 50's | May 03 05:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Minority and the GRC: http://wp.me/pj2fj-r8 #sgelection | May 03 05:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Minority and the GRC « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 38.64 KB | May 03 05:53 |
| Ender2070 | even longer before that | May 03 05:53 |
| GoForbes28 | How about you cut to the chase and say since the dawn of mankind? | May 03 05:54 |
| Ender2070 | what is your definition of dawn of mankind? | May 03 05:55 |
| Ender2070 | I'd probably say since 50,000 years ago | May 03 05:55 |
| Ender2070 | well, actually, 52000 years ago, 50000 BC | May 03 05:55 |
| Ender2070 | as the time when things got b ad | May 03 05:56 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 05:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Investment opportunity ... | May 03 05:56 |
| GoForbes28 | With a Conservative Majority win I suggest investing in ... | May 03 05:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Telecoms | May 03 05:56 |
| Ender2070 | part of my batshit insane theory | May 03 05:56 |
| Ender2070 | thats when man was genetically engineered | May 03 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !CPC to rewrite crime laws, bundle 11 bits of law&order legislation they couldn't pass as minority gov't in omnibus bill http://ur1.ca/42lmf | May 03 05:57 | |
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| GoForbes28 | KHHAAANNN | May 03 05:57 |
| Ender2070 | star trek loves the allegory | May 03 05:57 |
| Ender2070 | star trek is a great series to watch when you stumble upon freemasonic coding | May 03 05:57 |
| Ender2070 | its like you're watching another show within a show | May 03 05:58 |
| Ender2070 | Gene Roddenbury was a huge part of the predictive programming | May 03 05:59 |
| GoForbes28 | wow, could the globe and mail kiss any more ass? | May 03 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | a lot of ideas that became reality came from that show | May 03 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | lol | May 03 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | what about the globe and fail? | May 03 05:59 |
| GoForbes28 | Should of stayed the Globe, oh and not be bought by media conglomerates | May 03 05:59 |
| Ender2070 | you know that law that says we can't talk about elections | May 03 06:00 |
| Ender2070 | i bet it was all globalmedia | May 03 06:00 |
| Ender2070 | globalmedia owns all our newspapers | May 03 06:00 |
| Ender2070 | and Global Channel 3 :) | May 03 06:00 |
| GoForbes28 | that's shaw actually | May 03 06:01 |
| Ender2070 | the global tv network | May 03 06:01 |
| GoForbes28 | with other newspapers owned by bell and rogers | May 03 06:01 |
| Ender2070 | is globalmedia | May 03 06:01 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | May 03 06:01 |
| GoForbes28 | which is shaw | May 03 06:01 |
| GoForbes28 | Shaw bought canwest which owned the GTN | May 03 06:02 |
| GoForbes28 | Hence, we have monopolies in every sense of the word | May 03 06:02 |
| Ender2070 | CTVglobemedia, Rogers, Shaw, Astral, Newcap and Quebecor. | May 03 06:03 |
| GoForbes28 | and now ready the bullshit cannons | May 03 06:03 |
| GoForbes28 | yep | May 03 06:03 |
| GoForbes28 | "Centrist compromise spurs Tory triumph" | May 03 06:03 |
| GoForbes28 | hahahahaha | May 03 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | I'd argue Tory's are socialist too | May 03 06:03 |
| Ender2070 | what isnt left wing about tax-and-spend and cozying up to world government | May 03 06:04 |
| GoForbes28 | nah | May 03 06:04 |
| GoForbes28 | they're just the Harper wing party | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | people dont really know w hat left means | May 03 06:05 |
| GoForbes28 | I concur | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | left means 100% government, right is 0% | May 03 06:05 |
| GoForbes28 | sort of | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | school told me left is communistic, and right is facist | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | except facist is 100% government | May 03 06:05 |
| GoForbes28 | ot | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | which is left | May 03 06:05 |
| GoForbes28 | it's more like a square | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | which is why hitler, and stalin are left wing | May 03 06:05 |
| Ender2070 | of course, a school will promote communism | May 03 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | teachers are fuckers | May 03 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | I left high school as a brainwashed liberal/ndp voter | May 03 06:06 |
| GoForbes28 | you can have two types of government involvement: with citizens and companies | May 03 06:06 |
| Ender2070 | you can have two types of government involvement with companies | May 03 06:06 |
| GoForbes28 | A democracy is high citizen freedom, high company freedom | May 03 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | as well | May 03 06:07 |
| GoForbes28 | Socialism is high citizen freedom, low company freedom | May 03 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | honestly, i dont know how it would work but i'd rather have anarchy | May 03 06:07 |
| GoForbes28 | Communism is low freedom on both parts | May 03 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | socialism is one of the steps towards communism though | May 03 06:07 |
| GoForbes28 | and Facism is low citizen freedom, high company freedom | May 03 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | lenin loved it | May 03 06:07 |
| Ender2070 | he called the left, useless idiots | May 03 06:07 |
| GoForbes28 | that's it | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | he had them killed as soon as he took over | May 03 06:08 |
| GoForbes28 | the concept of left and right is well, two-dimensional | May 03 06:08 |
| GoForbes28 | it should be more complex | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | its an ancient hegelian dialectic | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | us vs them | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | good vs evil | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | the media always puts 1v1 or 2v2 | May 03 06:08 |
| Ender2070 | for example | May 03 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | whenever evolution is discussed what does the media do? | May 03 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | it goes into the middle, between a creationist and between a darwinist | May 03 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | they never show the alternatives | May 03 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | which is what if there was evolution, and then creation afterwards as genetic engineering | May 03 06:09 |
| Ender2070 | more plausible than God | May 03 06:09 |
| GoForbes28 | So you believe in Star Trek | May 03 06:10 |
| Ender2070 | some spooky old man living in the sky | May 03 06:10 |
| GoForbes28 | 's theory? | May 03 06:10 |
| Ender2070 | I suspect there was genetic tampering yes | May 03 06:10 |
| GoForbes28 | I see | May 03 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | im not 100% on the details but we're far too advanced to have evolved naturally given the time | May 03 06:11 |
| GoForbes28 | Unfortunately, I have to get some sleep now | May 03 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | later | May 03 06:11 |
| GoForbes28 | See you tomorrow perhaps | May 03 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps yes | May 03 06:11 |
| Ender2070 | I also dont think it had to do with aliens | May 03 06:12 |
| Ender2070 | so dont worry | May 03 06:12 |
| Ender2070 | lol | May 03 06:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Stuff LKY would want you NOT to know (yes, this is a post from 2004) http://ur1.ca/42lso #sgelection | May 03 06:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Please point to the video in which Nicole Seah apologies to the Malays for LKY's racist comment. #sgelection | May 03 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sony cannot be trusted wrt your personal data, as it seems. first PSN, now SOE. Time to move on for those using Sony? | May 03 06:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. Just got an Android update to 2.3.4 on my Nexus One. I wonder what's new? | May 03 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] If Osama can be found, why does the PAP take so long to find Phey Yew Kok? http://ur1.ca/42lwi #sgelection | May 03 07:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer Sony cannot be trusted wrt your personal data, as it seems. first PSN, now SOE. Time to move on for those using Sony? | May 03 07:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sony had another hacker attack? WTF!? | May 03 07:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @clacke The meaning of the term changes with context. | May 03 07:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra If you want a nice serif font: http://www.google.com/webfonts/family?family=Droid+Serif&subset=latin | May 03 07:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So LHL is apologizing at the lunch time rally in Boat Quay? Reminds me of Catherine Lim's tale - http://ur1.ca/42lyz #sgelection | May 03 07:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nailuj: Sony hack revival tour: http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/3/sony-security-breached-again/ | May 03 07:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony finds 24.6m MORE gamers details exposed | thinq_ .::. Size~: 24.15 KB | May 03 07:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah. Apparently Sony wasn't hacked again. They were just more hacked. | May 03 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] US now to release footage of Osama? Afraid of #Wikileaks, eh? | May 03 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @otakukuma channels with #rtmpdump and !mplayer via the !commandline http://crunchbanglinux-fr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=509 | May 03 07:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know what kind of keyboards Linus Torvalds ruins with coffee | May 03 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | but I've spilled my coffee on this Microsoft one several times and it still works :) | May 03 07:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh That will do the trick as well. As per the original request, I was referencing fonts that are in the default Archlinux repo. | May 03 07:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @N900_Drips: Cutetube vs CuteTube-QML on Nokia N900 http://bit.ly/mj1Mx3 #Nokia #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Mobile Vikings Home Widget for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7227 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: FourCircle - FourSquare client for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7226 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: PanicButton (N900 home widget) - quickly send an SMS with your location in emergency: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7225 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: ShakeToWake 2 - wake up/rest your N900 by shaking: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7224 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Group SMS for the N900 - send SMS to groups of contacts: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7228 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 07:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Poll: Is your current (main)phone, a Nokia? What about your next one? http://bit.ly/iLcKwR | May 03 07:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed Droid isn't in there myself. Oo | May 03 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh ttf-droid is in community | May 03 07:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] “Geek And Poke: Everybody Has To Set Priorities”: http://tinyurl.com/3tmnluq #Sonny #LO | May 03 07:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Really excited about this Mojang interview. :) | May 03 07:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just updated my KDE/Fedora/Xorg/GNU/Linux/Intel/Silicon box, sweet. #freetards | May 03 07:43 | |
| DaemonFC | free video stack isn't just for free software as a religion types | May 03 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | I happen to think video drivers should be just like any other part of the kernel, without any further need to think about it or any 200 MB driver bundle to download than cross your fingers as you reboot the machine :) | May 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | call me crazy :) | May 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | *then | May 03 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | and they have an alarming tendency to not build at all (since they're not part of the kernel to begin with) | May 03 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | and obsolete parts of the kernel like the BKL or some obsolete symbols can be removed and you're left waiting for AMD or Nvidia to catch up | May 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | I hear people saying how much they like proprietary video drivers and it makes me wonder if they've ever used them | May 03 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes they don't even work with released kernels, much less a development branch | May 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | jono would say "They're not a wart! They work with what Ubuntu ships! Fact of Life, get over it. Blah blah" | May 03 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | he tends to be pretty apologetic when it comes to software that crashes the system and hides bugs and exposes you to security threats and even when the Ubuntu supplied packages (Flash) don't work right, on Ubuntu | May 03 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | but jono speaks as a Canonical employee first and a free software advocate fifth or sixth | May 03 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | he won't openly criticize proprietary software that doesn't work right for fear that they will lose their "preferred partner" status and won't get the module that works sometimes, on Ubuntu only, between crashes | May 03 07:52 |
| MinceR | wait, what? mono bacon is a free software advocate? :> | May 03 07:55 |
| MinceR | as for the drivers, it's like i always say: software being free is a practical advantage by itself | May 03 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, RESTRICTED is where they keep the nonfree drivers | May 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | according to their description, it's nonfree drivers that Canonical has tested and "supports" | May 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | but when you go to install them it says Canonical can't support them because they aren't free and open source | May 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | ") | May 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | they can't support FGLRX any better than I can | May 03 07:57 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | I can file a bug with AMD too | May 03 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | they may listen to Canonical over me, but in the end, Canonical can't fix it | May 03 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | all they can do is ask | May 03 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | and if AMD decides that the "fix" is easy, they may get around to it, sometime | May 03 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ubisoft launches film, TV company - http://bit.ly/mhsZfv making money from related goods #businessmodels | May 03 08:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, All I'm saying is that they tell the truth. If the truth is "We have no idea what these do, and take no responsibility for them. They are known to misbehave a lot, but they give you faster 3d" | May 03 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | at least that would be honest, right? | May 03 08:00 |
| MinceR | yes | May 03 08:00 |
| MinceR | but earlier you said they said elsewhere that they support it | May 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | they say both | May 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | but they don't say either very forcefully | May 03 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | which makes me believe they're hoping people will just install it and figure it's part of Ubuntu | May 03 08:02 |
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| DaemonFC | then when it gives some people problems, "We don't support that" | May 03 08:02 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, when we said we did, we meant WE didn't have problems with it" | May 03 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 08:02 |
| MinceR | "...because we have intel and nvidia gpus" | May 03 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia is worse than FGLRX in some ways | May 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 08:03 |
| MinceR | i know | May 03 08:03 |
| MinceR | it was meant to be funny | May 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | we threw it in there and slammed the door shut before it could maul any of us | May 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | if it breaks loose, here's a nipple ring to threaten it with | May 03 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | good luck | May 03 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 08:04 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 08:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @heartstentsi Get a job. | May 03 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Sony Hack Even Worse Than Previously Announced http://lxnews.org/2011/05/03/sony-hack-even-worse/ | May 03 08:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, As far as I know, GNOME Shell STILL doesn't work with FGLRX | May 03 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | even this month's version of FGLRX | May 03 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | non free drivers are not a priority with Mutter, and they are with Compiz | May 03 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | so I think that's why Ubuntu went with Compiz | May 03 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | because Compiz has a lot of workarounds for known incorrect non free driver behaviors | May 03 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia and AMD both say their nonfree drivers are getting better and every Compiz release has more workarounds for them | May 03 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | you tell me if you believe that | May 03 08:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 they may all be out of business after Fox News North takes over the market. | May 03 08:08 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ubuntu patched Plymouth | May 03 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | did you notice that? | May 03 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | they probably had too many people shorting out their monitors with holy water | May 03 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | now it doesn't show the splash screen at all with non free drivers | May 03 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | Flash, Flicker, X has failed to start, retrying X infinity, FLASH, FLICKER, FLICKER, FLASH | May 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | User: THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! | May 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | As long as Ubuntu wants to use X, they need to keep defending the proprietary drivers, which don't work with Wayland, won't work with Wayland, and half work with X | May 03 08:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm not in the mood to code any more ;( | May 03 08:13 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You're right that being nonfree presents practical problems. It's a mess, only Nvidia or AMD can fix it, they won't. Everyone else has to work around them. The end. | May 03 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing pragmatic about advertising this as a feature :) | May 03 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | the ZOMG!!111 Why can't you be PRAGMATIC arguments of people like jono might be easier to swallow if proprietary drivers and Flash weren't so broken | May 03 08:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mydex completes significant step on way to new personal data ecosystem - http://bit.ly/mrpoAk interesting UK vendor relationship management | May 03 08:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gadaffi buries son. What if Obama's youngest daughter was killed in foreign bombing raid? Yet this has hardly been in the news. #Libya | May 03 08:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm pooched... though i'd manage an oh canada post but can't keep awake. so... | May 03 08:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverse | May 03 08:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @xsteadfastx twitter bought !tweetdeck? goodbye !statusnet support | May 03 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @tante "Da schicken Sie mir doch ein Fax!" - Ich buschtrommel Dir gleich einen … | May 03 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: Did you know that today is World Press Freedom Day? #WPFD2011 http://bit.ly/ifkpbi | May 03 08:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/bgiltrap/statuses/65200278672125952 | May 03 08:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bgiltrap: @IPmonster I disagree with FOSSpatents giving good coverage of Samsung vs Apple try http://techrights.org | May 03 08:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting ready to interview Carl Manneh from Mojang for !LO. If you have any questions for him, shoot. | May 03 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 131 million downloads on 2011-05-03 08:02 UTC | May 03 09:05 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://tinyogg.com/watch/WOAJI/ | May 03 09:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Progress on the LibreOffice Conference: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/03/progress-on-the-libreoffice-conference/ !libo !tdf | May 03 09:08 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | May 03 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: #Unity Interface - Craptastic Mac Wannabe - #Ubuntu 11.04 http://is.gd/IOeNlr !playogg | May 03 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Techno-activism: Why our tools need to be free http://ur1.ca/42mre !fsfe | May 03 09:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/5/2011: OpenBSD 4.9, Firefox 6 Prioritising GNU/Linux http://is.gd/o5Pqec !techrights | May 03 09:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke - Some years ago in the headquarter of a big entertainment company: Everybody Has To Set Priorities http://goo.gl/wn4pC | May 03 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] smspillaz: Debugging with X11Vis http://goo.gl/kTnjV | May 03 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 3/5/2011: OpenBSD 4.9, Firefox 6 Prioritising GNU/Linux http://is.gd/o5Pqec #techrights news summary | May 03 09:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Igor Portugal Explains Software Patents http://is.gd/ZZZLcq #swpats #eu | May 03 09:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Sony Hack Even Worse Than Previously Announced http://lxnews.org/2011/05/03/sony-hack-even-worse/ | May 03 09:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Michael Vogt: update-manager & !unity http://goo.gl/mcFGh !u | May 03 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Paolo Sammicheli: !Ubuntu Testing on the Open Week http://goo.gl/d5cgG | May 03 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm tired of my PIM being so horribly broken. I want clientside filtering back. I want to be able to mail to addressbook entries. wtf. | May 03 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Scrolls looks really cool: http://www.scrolls.com | May 03 09:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Debian Rolling release http://goo.gl/wEgmC | May 03 09:42 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/eljonnyhjm/status/65332405355032577 | May 03 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @eljonnyhjm: @schestowitz true to that. Unity is practically worthless as I see it. | May 03 09:48 |
| schestowitz | I haven't tried it yet. Lacelot is nice (with xbindkeys on the side) | May 03 09:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] And dovecot's serverside shit is completely opaque, and I don't feel like debugging it any more. #fds. | May 03 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow! Something REALLY BIG is coming for #Minecraft in June! !LO | May 03 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] " ... konnte aber mit dem Ausweis der Transnationalen Republik beruhigt werden ..." http://ur1.ca/42n0v | May 03 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh so sony has "lost" the data of almost 100 million people. I would call that a SuperGAU. | May 03 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My guess is that 70% of the sony users used the same username/password for facebook. Prepare for some fun if you use FB (I don't) | May 03 10:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome interview with Carl Manneh from Mojang in the can. They are great people over there! :) !LO !Miners | May 03 10:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What if 20% of the sony users used the same username/password for ebay, paypal? Can you imagine what that means? | May 03 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Found an HP Color Laserjet 2025n @ >EUR 300 VAT incl. (Amazon sells it @ $573, AVG price EUR400) Bought it. Arrives tomorrow :-) | May 03 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72549339 | May 03 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 08:36:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz when is rms on tb? | May 03 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I try figuring out video first | May 03 10:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/eljonnyhjm/status/65343894509989888 | May 03 10:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @eljonnyhjm: @schestowitz: I hadn't even heard of either of those! Checked them out, they seem like some nifty applications =) switched to xubuntu ftm... | May 03 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Acacia Extorts #RedHat Again http://is.gd/ZRn0b5 #linux #swpats attacks from the usual patent trolls http://is.gd/JD0ONn | May 03 10:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Acacia Extorts RedHat Again http://is.gd/ZRn0b5 !linux | May 03 10:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Well meh, fuck all of this. | May 03 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist USTR releases Special 301 Report - given Wikileaks revelations, no surprise it continues to target Canada http://is.gd/dPDBp4 | May 03 10:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist According to the US, over 4.3 billion people live in countries with intellectual property laws worthy of complaint. 1/2 | May 03 10:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Many of the countries are poor. The US primary issue for them is demand for stronger patent protection for pharmaceutical drugs. | May 03 10:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Eben Moglen Explains Why Software Patents Should Not Exist http://is.gd/irEY5B #india | May 03 10:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Intellectual' monopolies are today's cannons for an imperialist. #swpats #copyright | May 03 10:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @SusanDelacourt: Elections Canada showing about 55% turnout for #elxn41 at the moment; down from all-time low in 2008. | May 03 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Turnout rates are indicative of people's belief in the multi-party system. When they believe it's fake (i.e. no) choice, they don't show up. | May 03 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla wants you to play this game - http://tnw.co/im59QQ clever approach here | May 03 10:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72553388 | May 03 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 09:49:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Look forward to it. BTW it looks like @jwildeboer will be appearing on LO to talk about #EU #swpats. | May 03 10:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If parties differ on X number of issues, one must ask what issues are totally off the table and not up for voting on, e.g. bailout, war | May 03 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unannounced #Amazon #Tablet reportedly to ship in second half of 2011 - http://tnw.co/kzaQuA would be huge boost for #android | May 03 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @schestowitz: Eben Moglen Explains Why Software Patents Should Not Exist http://is.gd/irEY5B <not that we must be convinced ;-) | May 03 10:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @schestowitz: Eben Moglen Explains Why Software Patents Should Not Exist http://is.gd/irEY5B | May 03 10:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US digital sales up 2% in volume and 12% in value but subscription slumps - http://bit.ly/l5Y7ey stop blocking #spotify, then (v @Copycense) | May 03 10:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux gaming: GCT (Greedy Car Thieves) & #GNU #Linux is a profitable platform! http://is.gd/Uqypwf #gct #games | May 03 10:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Someone build himself a Linux Outlaws doorbell in #Minecraft: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7876850/outlaw-doorbell.ogg !miners | May 03 10:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 13 reasons why the Infringing File Sharing Act is bad for you - http://bit.ly/llTa6R about #nz law, but points generally valid #copyright | May 03 11:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bizarre! on returning to netbook unity theme had changed. Merely opening Appearance caused it to change back unasked. #Ubuntu !Linux | May 03 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: /me is so pumped for Minecraft 1.6. :D | May 03 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Be her wild Tarzan" ROFL. I love creative spammers. :D | May 03 11:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Network, Memory And CPU Usage Indicator For !Ubuntu: System Load Indicator http://goo.gl/PhHyN | May 03 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: [Poll] If we switched to Livefyre for comments… http://goo.gl/THDvj | May 03 11:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Biology Open: a new OA journal from the Company of Biologists - http://bit.ly/kMxFLn the more, the merrier #openaccess | May 03 11:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The public good of software - http://bit.ly/jQNeIN excellent analysis of artificial scarcities & how to end them #economics #freesw | May 03 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sandia's mini #supercomputer runs #Linux on 196 Gumstix #ARM modules - http://bit.ly/iZ9pHp v interesting: coming to a desk near you? | May 03 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sandia's mini supercomputer runs Linux on 196 Gumstix ARM modules - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.52 KB | May 03 11:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [self RT] PR company trademarks term “radical media”, threatens to sue activists - http://bit.ly/iAtj7B appalling story: shame on them | May 03 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wo sit denn eigentlich die Antwort der Samwer Brüder auf #square? iZettle ist es ja wphl nicht, oder? #payment | May 03 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just got off the phone from #Lenova UK ref #Thinkpad. I have been informed there is no way to purchase without Windows 7 !Linux !FLOSS #fail | May 03 11:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] FSFE's UK chapter asks BT to make their upcoming music service compatible with software freedom: http://wmk.me/l3Zgbl | May 03 11:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Telecom: please include freedom in your new music service - http://bit.ly/mG8f3I worth reminding them, I suppose (v @webmink) #fsfe | May 03 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://i.imgur.com/xrTJ0.png At least you're trying, kmail | May 03 11:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fed up with people telling me the GIMP "isn't sufficient for what I do" without going into the details. Talk is cheap.... | May 03 11:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Computer Science and Biology Come Together to Make Tree Identification a Snap - http://bit.ly/m4VU8g shape of science to come (v @gnat) | May 03 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US in 2005: legalizing TiVo, CD ripping "sends the wrong message" - http://bit.ly/mkXVsz those maximalists just can't get enough #copyright | May 03 11:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 120 million Chinese read #ebooks, generating 610 million RMB sales volume on mobile phones - http://bit.ly/jgSnVn big numbers #china | May 03 11:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !Chromium Daily adds !Unity progress bar and badge support http://goo.gl/vJsoZ | May 03 11:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 120 million Chinese read e-books, generating 610 million RMB sales volume on mobile phones « China Media News .::. Size~: 27.94 KB | May 03 11:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ccbuhr @NeelieKroesEU Congrat.s to Iranian journalist A. Zeidabadi for the 2011 World Press Freedom Prize #WPFD2011 http://bit.ly/eFcvYE | May 03 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Journees Logiciels Libres / ENSA Tetouan, Morocco - http://bit.ly/jrJf0V interesting comment about #women in IT in #morocco, #india | May 03 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ccbuhr @NeelieKroesEU Congrat.s to Iranian journalist A. Zeidabadi for the 2011 World Press Freedom Prize #WPFD201... http://b1t.it/irB | May 03 11:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Iranian journalist Ahmad Zeidabadi to receive 2011 UNESCO/Guillermo Cano World Press Freedom Prize .::. Size~: 25.23 KB | May 03 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Harald Welte's blog .::. Size~: 15.12 KB | May 03 11:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carlo Piana (carlopiana)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 10:41:08 UTC - MuBlog .::. Size~: 7.91 KB | May 03 11:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scholarly HTML website up at http://scholarlyhtml.org - http://bit.ly/iVCJDk "key documents, what it is, lists of tools etc" | May 03 11:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scholarly HTML | Guidelines and tools for web based research and scholarship .::. Size~: 9.49 KB | May 03 11:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scholarly HTML website up at http://scholarlyhtml.org | ptsefton .::. Size~: 17.88 KB | May 03 11:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @fsfeuk Open letter to British Telecom: please include freedom in your new music service - http://s.coop/18j9 !fs #spotify !gnu | May 03 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Great song! Learned of it via Dragon Age. ♺ @ravenonline: #listening to 30 Seconds To Mars - This is war - http://is.gd/c5eG07 | May 03 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open letter to BT .::. Size~: 8.82 KB | May 03 11:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I like how DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHINGing doesn't even make kmail work. wtf. | May 03 11:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why is the PAP trying to sound humble suddenly? They're realizing that they'll lose more seats? panicking? send in the army? #sgelection | May 03 11:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Fuck all of this, I'm using pine. | May 03 11:55 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | May 03 12:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | May 03 12:13 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | May 03 12:13 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | May 03 12:13 | |
| -MemoServ-You have 8 new memos. | May 03 12:13 | |
| -MemoServ-To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEW | May 03 12:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Sony having a hellava month http://is.gd/kzaW9y now a 2nd data breach | May 03 12:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Technology blog | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 115.25 KB | May 03 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] GCT essentially says Wong Kan Seng can be booted out. Pleads for George Yeo's re-election. lol! http://ur1.ca/42nxo #sgelection | May 03 12:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | George Yeo too important for Cabinet to lose: SM Goh .::. Size~: 93.65 KB | May 03 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] GCT promised clean campaigning. I guess, at 69, he's got amnesia - http://ur1.ca/42nye #sgelection | May 03 12:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | SM Goh: I can't get feel of younger voters .::. Size~: 91.79 KB | May 03 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I guess WKS is revisiting the same few people for "very warm and positive" reception. #sgelection http://ur1.ca/42nyt | May 03 12:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | PAP's Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC team: SPP doesn't know how to run town councils .::. Size~: 93.08 KB | May 03 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: In the Situation Room, aerial imagery of the Bin Laden compound - http://bit.ly/j09V33 ... | May 03 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Scholarly HTML website up at http://scholarlyhtml.org - http://bit.ly/iVCJDk "key documents, what it is, lists of tools etc" | May 03 12:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In the Situation Room, aerial imagery of the Bin Laden compound | Ogle Earth .::. Size~: 20.68 KB | May 03 12:25 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scholarly HTML website up at http://scholarlyhtml.org | ptsefton .::. Size~: 17.88 KB | May 03 12:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Good morning all! Got up, let dogs out, dogs went back to sleep. Think dogs are smarter than I am :) | May 03 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @webmink: FSFE's UK chapter asks BT to make their upcoming music service compatible with software freedom: http://wmk.me/l3Zgbl | May 03 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/toggle-or-not-toggle-end-torbutton | May 03 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Mozilla wants you to play this game - http://tnw.co/im59QQ clever approach here | May 03 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Eben Moglen Explains Why Software Patents Should Not Exist http://is.gd/irEY5B #swpats #monopoly | May 03 12:27 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eben Moglen Explains Why Software Patents Should Not Exist | Techrights .::. Size~: 79.45 KB | May 03 12:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Is PM Lee begging now? Is the PAP trying the sympathy angle? #sgelection http://ur1.ca/42o0j | May 03 12:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | Give me as strong a mandate as possible: PM Lee .::. Size~: 94.01 KB | May 03 12:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Tor 0.2.2.25-alpha is out: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02225-alpha-out | May 03 12:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] New Tor Browser Bundles (and other packaging updates): https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-and-other-packaging-updates | May 03 12:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Too late for apologies, Mr Lee. PAP working on sympathy votes now. Beware. http://ur1.ca/42o1h #sgelection | May 03 12:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PM Lee apologises for mistakes - inSing.com .::. Size~: 61.75 KB | May 03 12:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Is the focus on George Yeo a smokescreen for the troubles in other GRCs? http://ur1.ca/42o1z #sgelection | May 03 12:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | PM Lee: George Yeo more than just a Foreign Minister .::. Size~: 97.82 KB | May 03 12:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Singaporeans (young and old) are loyal to Singapore NOT to the PAP. Very presumptuous, Mr Lee. #sgelection http://ur1.ca/42o2u | May 03 12:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TODAYonline | Singapore Votes | Be careful when tinkering with system that has worked: PM Lee .::. Size~: 94.63 KB | May 03 12:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My sense is that #sgelection will be won on social media efforts because Singaporeans could connect & collaborate without PAP double speak. | May 03 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean I wanted to sleep, but my brain was contemplating things. | May 03 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @wayneborean @schestowitz Roy, you awake? | May 03 12:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @schestowitz ♻ @mgeist USTR releases Special 301 Report - given Wikileaks revelations, no surprise it continues to target Canada http ... | May 03 12:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So who will play #OBL in "Osama - the movie"? | May 03 12:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | Unity is about as stable as Windows Me | May 03 12:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Feh. Why am I so angsty? | May 03 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @MyScienceCloud: RT @Montberte: Math problems? Call 1-800-[(10x)(ln(13e))]-[sin(xy)/2.362x] | May 03 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] That last one is a hoot. By the time you've figured out what number to call... | May 03 12:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Dropped by Nina Paley's #fb page to wish her a happy birthday. Now I can't get Billy Joel's 'You May be Right' to stop playing in my head. | May 03 13:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@tante I would go for Nicolas Cage, he has that sardonic grin. Or Travolta. Or both. ;-) | May 03 13:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IP-Address Is Not a Person, BitTorrent Case Judge Says - http://bit.ly/m6zXGa "the ruling can be a potential game changer" | May 03 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Portugal sits on 382.5 to of gold, 81% of forex reserves. Greece similar with 111.7 to, 78.7%. US at 8133 to, 73.9% - Who gets AAA rating? | May 03 13:20 | |
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| GoForbes28 | good morning | May 03 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | I've hacked at Unity a little | May 03 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | it works OK when it's not freezing | May 03 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Wild: Future of Fedora's #MeeGo "remix" (i.e. Netbook UX on Fedora) http://is.gd/Ha54sY #maemo | May 03 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Community: Graphics wanted for #MeeGo Apps web catalogue http://is.gd/XKqVXi #maemo | May 03 13:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Portugal sits on 382.5 to of gold, 81% of forex reserves. Greece similar with 111.7 to, 78.7%. US at 8133 to, 73.9% - Who ... | May 03 13:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody IP-Address Is Not a Person, BitTorrent Case Judge Says - http://bit.ly/m6zXGa "the ruling can be a potential game changer" | May 03 13:38 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Great case for it, daemonfc :P | May 03 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to like to freeze if you change your themes around a lot real fast :) | May 03 13:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Five held under terror laws near UK nuclear plant http://is.gd/uRA1ijt #tpn #anon #piracy | May 03 13:52 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hi oiaohm | May 03 13:52 |
| GoForbes28 | which one of you (daemonfc or oiaohm) mentioned how to reset one's TPM? | May 03 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | clnot me | May 03 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | I have a TPM on my motherboard | May 03 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | but I've never used it | May 03 13:53 |
| oiaohm | I did a while back. GoForbes28 | May 03 13:54 |
| GoForbes28 | must have been you then | May 03 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing I have that even could is Windows 7 Ultimate, which is still in the shrinkwrap :P | May 03 13:54 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | from what I've seen of Bitlocker benchmarks, it kills your disk access performance | May 03 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | and the fibbies have stuff that unlocks it anyway | May 03 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 13:54 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Is there instructions on how to reset your TPM and replace the code? | May 03 13:54 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: I don't want to use | May 03 13:54 |
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| Will_ | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=15382738 | May 03 13:55 |
| GoForbes28 | it, I want to wipe it so the code no longer matches what the manufacturer put it | May 03 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Employees say hundreds laid off at Novell's Provo office - ksl.com .::. Size~: 46.63 KB | May 03 13:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Will_: To be expected. Novell is a Nortel-like state of euphoric denial | May 03 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, now Canonical promoted Mono | May 03 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing they've developed so far are some self-serving Banshee plugins that siphon revenue from the GNOME project | May 03 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 13:56 |
| Will_ | Ugh. Mono needs to die. | May 03 13:56 |
| GoForbes28 | maybe we should spread the association with Mono the disease | May 03 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu has as much Mono as OpenSuse GNOME edition ever did | May 03 13:57 |
| GoForbes28 | you know, like how the "entertainment" "industry" did with the term piracy and theft | May 03 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | but what's funny is that Monotorrent and the GUI frontend, Monsoon | May 03 13:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Tell people to use Kubuntu or Xubuntu | May 03 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | those were so bad that they ended up getting rid of them in OpenSuse | May 03 13:57 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Do you know of what I speak in regards to the TPM? | May 03 13:57 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: $$$ | May 03 13:58 |
| Will_ | I'd thought that was already a common association. Mono is an infection that makes things sluggish. Wait, was I talking about the virus or the programming language? | May 03 13:58 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: around Linux tpm software there are all the tools to clear the TPM. | May 03 13:58 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I remember you telling me that. Is there instructions or some sort of tutorial? | May 03 13:58 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: If software is not possible it is possible to physically high voltage a pin to clear the TPM as well. | May 03 13:58 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM was really not designed to keep the owner out if they need to break the device on most X86 motherboards. | May 03 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | The scary thing is that there are actually a couple of really good programs made with Mono, only a couple, only ones made to demonstrate it with | May 03 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | Novell poured a lot of money into Banshee | May 03 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | and Pinta is mostly recycled Paint.NET code | May 03 13:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Banshee was build by staff that had worked on rythimbox. and for a while they worked on both. | May 03 14:00 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I'm thinking from the Trusted computing perspective | May 03 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Rhythmbox is not maintained very well anymore | May 03 14:00 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I believe in the near future that the TPM will become a problem, and I'm not waiting to find out | May 03 14:00 |
| Will_ | Banshee really needs to _not_ be in the default Ubuntu install. I usually wipe Mono first thing, but now, won't wiping Mono from 11.04 will break the upgrade path in the package manager? | May 03 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | and those guys are promoting Banshee as a replacement for users that want to know why things in Rhythmbox are broken or not being fixed | May 03 14:00 |
| oiaohm | http://sourceforge.net/projects/trousers/ So you are thinking this. GoForbes28 | May 03 14:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: trousers | Download trousers software for free at SourceForge.net .::. Size~: 24.34 KB | May 03 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | good question | May 03 14:01 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I guess | May 03 14:01 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Since my hardware experience is lacking, I would think the software approach would be the ideal first step | May 03 14:01 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Yes trousers is the software you use to TPM the complete Linux system. | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | Reading package lists... Done | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | Building dependency tree | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | Reading state information... Done | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | The following packages will be REMOVED: | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | banshee* banshee-extension-soundmenu* banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | gbrainy* libappindicator0.1-cil* libart2.0-cil* libgconf2.0-cil* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | libgdata1.7-cil* libgkeyfile1.0-cil* libglade2.0-cil* libglib2.0-cil* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | libgmime2.4-cil* libgnome-vfs2.0-cil* libgnome2.24-cil* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | libgtk-sharp-beans-cil* libgtk2.0-cil* libgudev1.0-cil* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | liblaunchpad-integration1.0-cil* libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil* | May 03 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | libmono-addins0.2-cil* libmono-cairo2.0-cil* libmono-corlib2.0-cil* | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil* libmono-management2.0-cil* libmono-posix2.0-cil* | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | libmono-security2.0-cil* libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil* libmono-system2.0-cil* | May 03 14:02 |
| GoForbes28 | sudo apt-get instal nomomono | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | libmono-zeroconf1.0-cil* libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil* libndesk-dbus1.0-cil* | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | libnotify0.4-cil* libtaglib2.0-cil* libubuntuone1.0-cil* mono-2.0-gac* | May 03 14:02 |
| Will_ | DaemonFC: what needs to happen is for more programs like Gnote to be written. Like you said, there aren't that many good Mono programs. | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | mono-csharp-shell* mono-gac* mono-gmcs* mono-runtime* pinta* tomboy* | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 41 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | After this operation, 36.6 MB disk space will be freed. | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? | May 03 14:02 |
| GoForbes28 | Y | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Will_, There's a couple, and obviously that's enough to get it wedged into distros like Ubuntu | May 03 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Will_: Really we need gimp to get its updates done. | May 03 14:02 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: What's the effectiveness of the software on the TPM | May 03 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | all they need is an excuse, and Banshee and Pinta give it to them | May 03 14:02 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM is always designed to have a hardware backing. | May 03 14:03 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Its basically a checksumed executable system so you cannot change stuff without approval. | May 03 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like how they renamed all the mono packages to get rid of the "ms" parts to the name | May 03 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | like mscorelib is now just corelib | May 03 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | Will_, Looks like it won't break the desktop package | May 03 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | the desktop package recommends the Mono apps | May 03 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | but it doesn't depend on them | May 03 14:04 |
| Will_ | DaemonFC: classic MS whitewashing. Just like how some of their mouthpieces sometimes edit their info to scrub their connection to MS just prior to or during a smear campaign. | May 03 14:04 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Little bit of a tutorial in usign tpm to protect a system. https://www.grounation.org/index.php?post/2008/07/04/8-how-to-use-a-tpm-with-linux | May 03 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to use a TPM with Linux - GrouNation .::. Size~: 91.41 KB | May 03 14:04 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM is one of those things its who controls it. | May 03 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | Will_, The only reason .NET is any good is that it's basically swizzled JAVA | May 03 14:05 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: If the owner of the machine controls it . TPM is good since it can make virus writers live hell. | May 03 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's why MinceR calls it MS Visual JAVA | May 03 14:05 |
| Will_ | Although I'll probably skip 11.04. Primarily because the Nvidia binary drivers don't work at all in 11.04 on some Nvidia cards--like mine. I probably won't buy an Nvidia card again for a long time, if ever. | May 03 14:05 |
| MinceR | wait, what? .net is "any good"? | May 03 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | I never got the need to make several different languages with different syntax that all get turned into CIL and ran by a JIT compiler | May 03 14:06 |
| Will_ | But this just goes to show why closed-source binary drivers are, hmm, non-optimal | May 03 14:06 |
| MinceR | i've found it to be a cesspit full of manure | May 03 14:06 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: There already was virtual Java, need a better name :P | May 03 14:06 |
| GoForbes28 | *Visual Java | May 03 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | At least JAVA is just one language | May 03 14:06 |
| MinceR | it's surprising that m$ could ruin java so far | May 03 14:06 |
| MinceR | actually, java is a virtual machine and a language | May 03 14:06 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 14:06 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Unfortunately, the corps want to be the owners of the machines | May 03 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | not several that are totally different as far as the programmer is concerned but all have the same access to the CLR | May 03 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | .NET is a lot more confusing because of that | May 03 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You notice that Mono 2.0 no longer has any way to run J#? | May 03 14:07 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Are there instructions specifically on how to wipe the TPM? | May 03 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has deprecated it, but .NET can still run it | May 03 14:08 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Or do the instructions you link to include that | May 03 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How @CityCamp became an open source brand by @kmcurry | http://red.ht/jvOpmV #gov20 #opengov | May 03 14:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft is why companies never upgrade any of their software | May 03 14:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: never tried | May 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | the backwards compatibility sucks in cases like this | May 03 14:09 |
| MinceR | my life is blissfully free of c#, .net and mono currently | May 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | where they say "Hey, use J# to port all your Java apps over" | May 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | then they abandon it | May 03 14:09 |
| MinceR | and i intend to keep it that way :> | May 03 14:09 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: What is the "owner password"? | May 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | oh great, now you need an old .NET runtime forever, that only runs on Windows XP and Vista | May 03 14:09 |
| MinceR | not on vista sp7? | May 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | hope you didn't like, actually use J# B-) | May 03 14:10 |
| Will_ | DaemonFC: I don't know what to make of MS's recent interest in ARM. Even if they port Windows, they won't have all the third-party apps and legacy compatibility, which is the only thing keeping Windows going at this point. | May 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Not like it is, no, you have to trick the .NET 1.1 installer into thinking you have Windows XP | May 03 14:10 |
| MinceR | Will_: they'll probably include an emulator | May 03 14:10 |
| GoForbes28 | Will_: Windows porting is largely a failure | May 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | then hoping that it it doesn't have security flaws that Microsoft will never patch | May 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | May 03 14:10 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows for powerpc, etc. | May 03 14:10 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: That's how Microsoft works | May 03 14:11 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: There are particular ways included in the spec. http://linux.die.net/man/3/tspi_tpm_clearowner | May 03 14:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: tspi_tpm_clearowner(3): clear TPM ownership - Linux man page .::. Size~: 4.36 KB | May 03 14:11 |
| MinceR | (which will be unusably slow, of course) | May 03 14:11 |
| Will_ | Mince: emulating x86 on ARM? Won't that pretty much defeat the purpose of ARM and bring the system to a crawl? | May 03 14:11 |
| GoForbes28 | 64-bit Windows is more secure only by the most superficial or reasons | May 03 14:11 |
| MinceR | Will_: does m$ care? :> | May 03 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, Not really | May 03 14:11 |
| MinceR | do their stupid users care? :> | May 03 14:11 |
| GoForbes28 | 64-bit Windows is a true example of security by obscurity | May 03 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | the applications that benefit the most from ASLR and DEP have to opt in if they are 32-bit, web browsers that is | May 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox doesn't | May 03 14:12 |
| GoForbes28 | since the only security benefits are those provided "naturally" by 64-bit architecture | May 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome and IE do | May 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Opera does | May 03 14:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: is there a way to wipe the Endorsement Key? | May 03 14:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Which are more than offset by Windows flaws as you point out | May 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, You only benefit from the added security features in 64-bit Windows if you use 64-bit apps, where it is mandatory, or the programs you use that are 32-bit opt-in, or you force them (one by one or globally) | May 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | most users don't even know what this shit is and just run Firefox as it is | May 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft trojan horse plug-ins and all | May 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 14:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Busting the myths of the Alternative Vote - http://bit.ly/jnj15G a statistician speaks #av #uk | May 03 14:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nic Marks - Busting the myths of the Alternative Vote | the new economics foundation .::. Size~: 35 KB | May 03 14:13 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Exactly | May 03 14:13 |
| GoForbes28 | Security through 5-second obscruity, if that | May 03 14:14 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: How can the private key be used against the owner? | May 03 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason Firefox and Chrome and Opera aren't attacked more than they are on Windows is because they fix their bugs in a timjely manner and auto update their users | May 03 14:14 |
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| DaemonFC | but that still doesn't save you from malware that gets installed from some other source | May 03 14:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Endorsement Key cannot be changed other than change the chip. Since its hard wired. | May 03 14:15 |
| MinceR | :/ | May 03 14:15 |
| Finfisher is in the news but no one is calling out Windows http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/28/egypt-spying-software-gamma-finfisher | May 03 14:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: British firm offered spying software to Egyptian regime – documents | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.77 KB | May 03 14:15 |
| it looks like typical Windows malware to me | May 03 14:15 | |
| http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002114.html | May 03 14:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt, FinFisher Intrusion Tools and Ethics - F-Secure Weblog : News from the Lab .::. Size~: 13.99 KB | May 03 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | IE gets attacked more because Microsoft leaves known vulnerabilities unpatched for months if they think they can get away with it | May 03 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | and even if it's something critical, you have to wait a month for the patch | May 03 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 14:16 |
| I doubt Microsoft has the resources to fix problems | May 03 14:16 | |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Provides a unique id of the machine. | May 03 14:16 |
| MinceR | and because IE (and winblows) is a horrible mess that no self-respecting programmer would hand out | May 03 14:16 |
| and they have admitted to not fixing things on purpose to please advertisers | May 03 14:16 | |
| MinceR | twitter: they still have tons of money. if they really cared, they could hire people who know what they're doing. | May 03 14:16 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Could it be used maliciously? | May 03 14:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: There is always the option to fake the TPM to applications. | May 03 14:17 |
| MinceR | but they never cared | May 03 14:17 |
| users must remember that they are the product, not the customer | May 03 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Biggest issue with TPM is the bios intergration. | May 03 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Baller says "Me, Solomon Grundy, kind of drop ball on that one *sigh*" | May 03 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | (on Bing) | May 03 14:17 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: makes sense | May 03 14:17 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: So unless bios sees boot sector that is TPM signed it will not load it. | May 03 14:17 |
| no, they need the money for advertising, see Balmer's "advertisers, advertisers, advertisers" -> MinceR: twitter: they still have tons of money. if they really cared, they could hire people who know what they're doing. | May 03 14:17 | |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Now that is a true pain in ass. | May 03 14:17 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: cheery thought | May 03 14:17 |
| MinceR | twitter: and for lawyers | May 03 14:18 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: And if they call it DRM is would be protected by law | May 03 14:18 |
| MinceR | twitter: and for bribes | May 03 14:18 |
| it's not like the free software world, where anyone who wants to can fix things | May 03 14:18 | |
| MinceR | twitter: neither of those will fix sw bugs, though | May 03 14:18 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: So what, in your opinion, is the best way to neutralize the TPM? | May 03 14:18 |
| an old example is gcc's debugger | May 03 14:18 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I noticed my aunt was using Internet Explorer, Bing, and Norton | May 03 14:18 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | May 03 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] greased up the customers bugzilla instance with a monkey :-P. enhanced functionality to interact and get info from our own QA tracker | May 03 14:18 | |
| gnu had more than 90 authors ten years ago | May 03 14:18 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | May 03 14:19 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: depends on the TPM. TPM inside cpu's you are basically screwed. TPM outside cpu's most of them have a reset pin. | May 03 14:19 |
| a private company, like Microsoft, would be stretching to have one or two people part time on their debugger | May 03 14:19 | |
| non free software intentionally minimizes programming resources allocated to maximize profits of ownership | May 03 14:19 | |
| MinceR | twitter: my point is, if m$ ever wanted to function as a sw company or a tech company or whatever they claim they are but really aren't, they do have the money to do it | May 03 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | twitter, Good thing they have the NSA helping them :) | May 03 14:19 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Ie reset pin forget everything bar the Endorsement Key so becoming a allow everything device. | May 03 14:19 |
| MinceR | for a while anyway | May 03 14:19 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: A laptop would have it in the CPU? | May 03 14:20 |
| my point is that software owners have incentive to never fix things | May 03 14:20 | |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM in x86 cpu's is rare. | May 03 14:20 |
| http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/report-uk-firm-offered-custom-malware-egyptian-security-services-042611?utm_source=Recent%20Articles&utm_medium=Left%20Sidebar%20Topics&utm_campaign=Government%20Security | May 03 14:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Report: UK Firm Offered Custom Malware to Egyptian Security Services | threatpost .::. Size~: 51.4 KB | May 03 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | twitter, They can only let it get so bad, right? | May 03 14:20 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM in arm cpus is not so rare. | May 03 14:20 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I have AMD64 | May 03 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | They like to say how trim Windows 7 is, but it's still a few gigabytes larger than Vista | May 03 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | with very little to show for it | May 03 14:20 |
| German government may be prosecuting makers of Finfisher http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/345163-Legal-Advice-needed-U.K.-company-supplying-spyware-to-Egyptian-State-Security | May 03 14:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Advice needed: U.K. company supplying spyware to Egyptian State Security .::. Size~: 46.03 KB | May 03 14:21 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Xubuntu had the same problem, but they fixed it | May 03 14:21 |
| http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=294579 | May 03 14:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt, FinFisher intrusion tools and ethics - Wilders Security Forums .::. Size~: 56.04 KB | May 03 14:21 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Not in cpu | May 03 14:21 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Its a chip somewhere | May 03 14:21 |
| GoForbes28 | How would I know for sure if I have a TPM? | May 03 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | Unity has some rough edges, but it's nowhere near the mess people are making it out to be | May 03 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | it is better than GNOME 3 at least :P | May 03 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Who figured it would be Fedora that had the total dumbass desktop and Ubuntu doesn't? | May 03 14:23 |
| anyway, I wish the Guardian would be more careful and not lay blame on Skype, Gmail, Hotmail, and so on and so forth for the insecurity of Windows | May 03 14:23 | |
| DaemonFC | I mean, no minimize and maximize? wtf? | May 03 14:23 |
| I did not see an email for the author but someone should forward them the above links and Call out Windows. | May 03 14:23 | |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I may be in luck :P | May 03 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just recreated myself in #Minecraft. !miners http://ur1.ca/42oq4 | May 03 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110503T132117-avkgg5r.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.62 KB | May 03 14:23 |
| GoForbes28 | "WLAN, TPM, LAN : 802.11 B/G/N, No TPM, 10/100/100" | May 03 14:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Thank you ASUS! YAYYY!!!! | May 03 14:24 |
| E16 works for me. | May 03 14:24 | |
| DaemonFC | GNOME likes to say perfection is when you have nothing left to remove | May 03 14:24 |
| *DaemonFC turns computer off | May 03 14:24 | |
| There are some lovely Window Maker utilities sitting around too. | May 03 14:24 | |
| DaemonFC | LOOK, I'm using GNOME 4!!!!! | May 03 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 14:24 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 14:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: unity is not a total dumbass desktop now? | May 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | the graphics are AMAZING!!!! | May 03 14:25 |
| bbl, keep up the good work | May 03 14:25 | |
| GoForbes28 | if I wanted minimalistic, I'd use Fluxbox or something; stupid gnome | May 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | What compositor are they using!? | May 03 14:25 |
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| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Also depends on the computer. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Embedded_Security_Subsystem Thinkpads are simple as long as you don't trigger break the efuse lockign it state for ever. | May 03 14:25 |
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| DaemonFC | "Ok right, I'm looking out the window....." | May 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 14:25 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: It seems I don't have one based on the specs I have found | May 03 14:25 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: What basically means with some thinkpads the only way to cure the tpm is replace the chip. | May 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, GNOME 3 is worse | May 03 14:26 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Is there a way short of physical examiniation I can know for sure? | May 03 14:26 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: because users run the lock for ever. | May 03 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | is what I meant | May 03 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | to the point it is unusable | May 03 14:26 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Sounds like hell | May 03 14:26 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Windows Device Manager doesn't reveal any TPM, but am I really going to trust that? :P | May 03 14:26 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Windows don't see them. | May 03 14:27 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Is there a TPM detector out there? | May 03 14:27 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Not at least in device manager. | May 03 14:27 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.wave.com/support/TPM/ | May 03 14:27 |
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| GoForbes28 | "How do I know if I have a TPM? | May 03 14:27 |
| GoForbes28 | To verify if your computer has a TPM you can go into the BIOS and check or you may go to the vendor?s website and search for the product in question to find out if the TPM is built into the motherboard. Also, if the TPM driver is installed, then this should show up in the Device Manager (accessible from Windows Control Panel) under System Devices (XP) or Security Devices (Vista)." | May 03 14:27 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Linux kernel does. | May 03 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Compiz runs like shit with the default kernel and Mesa in Ubuntu Natty | May 03 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | but xorg-edgers and a 2.6.39 kernel fix that | May 03 14:28 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Note only shows up in windows after installing drivers | May 03 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 14:28 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Don't worry, I'm speeding up the transition to Debian in light of the fascist majority we have here. | May 03 14:28 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: How would the bios tell me if I have one? | May 03 14:28 |
| MinceR | where? | May 03 14:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh an Agent Smith moment? "Me" "Me too" | May 03 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @goforbes28: yes, seems widespread problem | May 03 14:28 | |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: because the bios can have options to turn TPM on off and clear it. | May 03 14:28 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: and in thinkpads in there is the o so risky lock for ever option. | May 03 14:29 |
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| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Well, I don't have a thinkpad | May 03 14:29 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I have an ASUS K42F-A1 | May 03 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | sabdfl Self Appointed Bastard/Dickhead For Life | May 03 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Day I Nearly Dumped #Firefox - http://bit.ly/loSzVW for such a tiny thing, too #upgrades #chrome #browsers | May 03 14:30 | |
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| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: This http://www.inmax.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=16&products_id=4370&zenid=be82261f7425e75c14f1a6c0b9a70d59%3Cbr%20/ says I don't have one | May 03 14:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus K42F-A1 14" I3-350M W7HP 4GB 320G Intel GMA HD... - $756.00 : InMax Computer - 322 College Street, Toronto 416.975.8886 .::. Size~: 50.36 KB | May 03 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | most Intel GMAs can't even do OpenGL 2 | May 03 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's pathetic | May 03 14:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: Self-Appointed Bastard Dictator For Life? | May 03 14:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I find that hard to believe | May 03 14:31 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: I believe the GMA HD can | May 03 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia probably says which chipsets can do what | May 03 14:31 |
| GoForbes28 | This is the model before Sandy Bridge ala DRM and poor driver support | May 03 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | I know the GMA 3100 can only do OpenGL 1.4 | May 03 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Poulsbo? | May 03 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | where some of it is in the kernel drivers tree, some of it is in staging, and some of it is nonfree? | May 03 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | those must be fun to own | May 03 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 14:32 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: HD does opengl 2.0, so there | May 03 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | Radeon cards are the most guaranteed to do at least SOMETHING resembling 3d acceleration in Ubuntu | May 03 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | the Nouveau 3d drivers bits aren't there by default | May 03 14:34 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Brother running old Compaq with ATI, seems to work ok | May 03 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | a few Intel chipsets are in the situation I described above | May 03 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | Radeons at least have some level of support in the free drivers no matter which one you own | May 03 14:35 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Which situation exactly? | May 03 14:35 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Ran "Tpm.msc", which says that a compatible TPM can't be found. Still somewhat unconvinced | May 03 14:35 |
| GoForbes28 | but this is good news | May 03 14:36 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm future proof! | May 03 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | where the driver was just a complete fucking mess | May 03 14:36 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | and spread out across, everywhere | May 03 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | the GMA 500 | May 03 14:36 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Yep, that mess | May 03 14:36 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Why I bought a GMA HD instead | May 03 14:36 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Would you say it is very likely that I don't have a TPM? | May 03 14:37 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: either not have one or turned off in bios | May 03 14:40 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Yes there are some boards out there that have a TPM chip turned off by bios on every startup. Upper models of the same boards had tpm turned on. | May 03 14:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] [FULL AUDIO of presentation available] Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn !cc ilegal... http://ff.im/Cxxx6 | May 03 14:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Can Windows do anything else then #BSOD 10 laptops with Win7 within 3 days | May 03 14:43 | |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Turning it off provides adequate neutralization? | May 03 14:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Still in finger-biting anticipation of your tutorial on the Anti-Harper internet shield ;) | May 03 14:45 | |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: It is starting to look like I don't have one though, which is even better | May 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Very much so. | May 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Its very simpler to cutting it off the board. | May 03 14:46 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: That is, until the US bans non-TPM devices | May 03 14:46 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: If Asus didn't include one, I am very happy about them | May 03 14:46 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: thinkpads use to be nice. the TPM was on a little unplugable board. | May 03 14:46 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: So bipass pull the bugger off. | May 03 14:46 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Too bad IBM is a main source perpetuation of the TPM push | May 03 14:47 |
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| oiaohm | GoForbes28: IBM push is TPM for system protection. | May 03 14:49 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: so bipass to direct access on IBM system is simple. | May 03 14:49 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Ie pull the chip. | May 03 14:49 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Yeah, "system protection" | May 03 14:49 |
| GoForbes28 | really hard to trust these guys | May 03 14:50 |
| GoForbes28 | like Harper | May 03 14:50 |
| oiaohm | No system protection. | May 03 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Ie system admin control. | May 03 14:50 |
| GoForbes28 | I believe you, I just can't hide the possibility of ulterior motives | May 03 14:50 |
| oiaohm | If its in the way. Just unplug the chip and it acts like a machine that does not have a tpm chip. | May 03 14:50 |
| GoForbes28 | Though to be fair, it seems Apple is the main exploiter of TPMS | May 03 14:50 |
| oiaohm | DRM users of it want it welded on the motherboard. | May 03 14:51 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: ala Apple | May 03 14:51 |
| oiaohm | With bios chips that will not boot if the TPM is missing. | May 03 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Yes | May 03 14:51 |
| oiaohm | IBM wanted use of TPM I have no issue with. | May 03 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Lot of good can come out of IBM usage. Like makign virus writers live hell. | May 03 14:52 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Still, they could be better on this issue | May 03 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Really IBM attempts and attempts to get there message of what they want out. | May 03 14:52 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Like when they tell the FSF that a Free Bios is out of the question due to "trusted computing concens" | May 03 14:52 |
| oiaohm | And they get drowned out by DRM backers. | May 03 14:53 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: makes sense | May 03 14:53 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Though fortunately, companies like Apple seem to fail at using it for that purpose | May 03 14:53 |
| oiaohm | No ibm issue with a free bios was more hardware destruction risks. | May 03 14:53 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: If the number of hackintoshes are any indication | May 03 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Ie people start inloading there own bios's they could drive hardware in directions that could fail. | May 03 14:54 |
| oiaohm | That might be a little hard for ibm to prove the case. | May 03 14:54 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: Let's hope that happen, though the general sheep mentality that seems to be present would negate such a direction. | May 03 14:55 |
| GoForbes28 | Namely, "buy iGadgets: OK" | May 03 14:56 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: http://tpm-emulator.berlios.de/ << Yep apples problem. | May 03 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software-based TPM Emulator .::. Size~: 3.67 KB | May 03 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Anything that can be hardware can also be faked by software. GoForbes28 | May 03 14:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] [FULL AUDIO of presentation available] Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn !FreeSoftware illegal too... http://ff.im/Cxxx6 | May 03 14:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Now with FULL AUDIO of presentation available]... - Marcos Marado - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 8.97 KB | May 03 14:57 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: This is the big problem with TPM. If users can fake it they can move it to different hardware and make the software still run. | May 03 14:58 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: You might be able to lock down one bit of hardware. But TPM is not really designed for DRM usage. | May 03 14:58 |
| MinceR | so TPM is not really designed for anything? :> | May 03 14:59 |
| MinceR | (wouldn't surprise me -- DRM pushers tend to be stupid) | May 03 14:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: TPM was designed to enhance computer resistance to malware and virus writers. | May 03 14:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie working hand and hand with the person with direct access to the machine. | May 03 15:00 |
| MinceR | and how does the Endorsement Key help that? | May 03 15:00 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: TPM was designed so you only can run Windows or whatever the corps tell you to | May 03 15:01 |
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| MinceR | :> | May 03 15:01 |
| GoForbes28 | some actually want it for a legitimate purpose, but that is the main thing | May 03 15:01 |
| MinceR | i think they've failed at that miserably | May 03 15:01 |
| GoForbes28 | Heh, Apple definitely has | May 03 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | Gallium drivers really do a lot better with LLVM | May 03 15:01 |
| GoForbes28 | If it worked, why are there Hackintoshes everywhere? | May 03 15:02 |
| MinceR | but right, that's pretty much what the EK is for | May 03 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, Anyone with a PC and a howto and too much time on their hands can make a Hackintosh | May 03 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | but if you're ever stupid enough to use Apple Updates, you're finished | May 03 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 15:02 |
| MinceR | i just thought that the point of locking you into the exact version of winblows and whatever was so that DRM could work | May 03 15:02 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: I was using it as an example of the failure of TPMs thus far | May 03 15:03 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: I know it was designed for other purposes as you indicated, but that really is what drives Microsoft to implement it | May 03 15:03 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: and sadly, for users, that motive is all that matters | May 03 15:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Endorsement key was added by the DRM people. | May 03 15:04 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: yep | May 03 15:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Problem is the idea is invalid. | May 03 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | You can trust it because it doesn't tell anyone what it's doing, not even you. :) | May 03 15:04 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: It would sure create worthless devices with every software upgrade | May 03 15:04 |
| oiaohm | You run a virtual machine like xen with virtual tpm you can put up any Endorsement key you want. MinceR | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | The only people who know how to access your data are some complete strangers who made the TPM | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | and the government | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | and any black hat group that reverse engineered it | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | but not you | May 03 15:05 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: "You can trust it because it doesn't tell anyone what it's doing, not even you." | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | so you are safe | May 03 15:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: even duplicate a fake you have created yourself. MinceR | May 03 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:05 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Like Harper | May 03 15:05 |
| GoForbes28 | :) | May 03 15:05 |
| MinceR | afaict there aren't any useful uses of a TPM that a smartcard and a smartcard reader won't do better :> | May 03 15:05 |
| MinceR | or even a usb token | May 03 15:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Note the Endorsement key has no centernal database. | May 03 15:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: whoa | May 03 15:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a possiblity duplicates in existance. | May 03 15:06 |
| MinceR | how do they propose it should work then? | May 03 15:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Its randomally generated when the chip is produced. | May 03 15:06 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: You have a TPM, right? | May 03 15:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ok depends on how valid the factories random number generator is. | May 03 15:06 |
| MinceR | also, does this mean that i can just make up a random EK, run it in a virtual environment and DRM pushers won't be able to exclude me from their software? | May 03 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | my motherboard manual says I do | May 03 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | I've never used it | May 03 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | they are pointless | May 03 15:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Yep. | May 03 15:06 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New Zealands Three Strikes Law was Pushed, Bought and Paid for by the US http://is.gd/3ULEBQ | May 03 15:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Zealands Three Strikes Law was Pushed, Bought and Paid for by the US - Wikileaks .::. Size~: 54.87 KB | May 03 15:07 |
| MinceR | so much effort wasted on a failure | May 03 15:07 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Should turn it off or wipe it, or even remove it | May 03 15:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Can you now see why I was not really paying that much importance the Endorsement key | May 03 15:08 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Fortunately, it looks like mine doesn't have one | May 03 15:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: indeed | May 03 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Couchbase offers NoSQL for iPhone (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/mre6Wr | May 03 15:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Couchbase offers NoSQL for iPhone | Mobile Technology - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 88.97 KB | May 03 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | you could always just not compile TPM support into your kernel | May 03 15:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: If it was somewhere near a correct implementation we would have a chance of worry. | May 03 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | then what will it do? | May 03 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 15:09 |
| MinceR | so far i've relied on using GRUB to ensure to break the chain of trust or whatever :> | May 03 15:09 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: If it is on the BIOS level, it still poses a future problem | May 03 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | how so? | May 03 15:09 |
| GoForbes28 | Better to just eliminate it all together | May 03 15:09 |
| GoForbes28 | As oiaohm explained, it could be used to block partitions with unacceptable os | May 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Of course you would have to willing buy machines like that. | May 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: Hang On I forget people buy moblie phones. | May 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | With the worse kind. | May 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | TPM chip in cpu. | May 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | No simple bipass. | May 03 15:11 |
| oiaohm | GoForbes28: TPM you control that you can choose to fake is not a threat. | May 03 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6312 | May 03 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Introduce Pay-as-you-go Computing .::. Size~: 37.1 KB | May 03 15:11 |
| GoForbes28 | oiaohm: That's why I wanted to control my TPM asap if I had one | May 03 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | Is that Justin Bieber? | May 03 15:12 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Good example, and what about 'old Punching Bag? | May 03 15:12 |
| GoForbes28 | rather youg | May 03 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft no longer has a page on it | May 03 15:13 |
| GoForbes28 | young | May 03 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Also the Endorsement key is really designed only for sending data into the TPM chip. MinceR | May 03 15:13 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Oh I see. lol | May 03 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when they were talking about it, thinking "What if the user just formats Windows off of it and uses Linux? Free PC?" | May 03 15:13 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: TPM machine that maybe impossible. | May 03 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | yep | May 03 15:13 |
| MinceR | in theory, or in practice? | May 03 15:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: again you have to be dumb enough to buy a machine locked that way. | May 03 15:14 |
| MinceR | i mean, do their broken implementations really enforce that? | May 03 15:14 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html | May 03 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Can You Trust Your Computer? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 25.49 KB | May 03 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's Microsoft, if you can count on anything working, it's the DRM | May 03 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: in theory, or in practice? to what | May 03 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | and the malware, but I was only talking about the first 5 minutes of Windows 7 | May 03 15:15 |
| MinceR | actually, you can't count on DRM working at all, m$ or not | May 03 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Did you see MAC Defender yet? | May 03 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | Moral of the story, these things don't happen with Free software. | May 03 15:16 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i mean, if someone would happen to buy such a supposedly locked-into-winblows PC, could the user format winblows off and use GNU/Linux on it? | May 03 15:16 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: no | May 03 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | fake antivirus is now on the Mac | May 03 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it's pretty | May 03 15:16 |
| MinceR | nice | May 03 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/05/fake-mac-defender-antivirus-app-scams-users-for-money-cc-numbers.ars | May 03 15:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fake "MAC Defender" antivirus app scams users for money, CC numbers .::. Size~: 32.44 KB | May 03 15:16 |
| GoForbes28 | Maybe we should promote Xeyes as some sort of surveillance software for Macs | May 03 15:17 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 15:17 |
| GoForbes28 | make a few easy bucks | May 03 15:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: If the bios has TPM locking and the TPM is locked solid. The bios will only load a signed bootloader. if the boot loader is tpm supporting it will only load signed binaries. | May 03 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It installs itself through the "Open Safe Files Automatically" "feature" of Safari | May 03 15:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Nice effected screwed. | May 03 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | nice huh? | May 03 15:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Also nicely windows updates most likely will fail as well. | May 03 15:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: So I do mean screwed. | May 03 15:18 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so it's not just that if you load a non-approved bootloader, the appropriate hash in the TPM will come up to a number they won't accept later? | May 03 15:18 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: nice | May 03 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, what should happen it, sited should sniff for Safari and if it's detected, pass it a zip bomb | May 03 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | *is | May 03 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | *sites | May 03 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | gah | May 03 15:18 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't worry, we're all having spelling difficulties in Canada | May 03 15:19 |
| GoForbes28 | especially after the election outcome | May 03 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Biggest issue is what do you do with the machien if the TPM chip malfunctions. | May 03 15:19 |
| MinceR | he's not in canada, though :> | May 03 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | user clicks the wrong page and suddenly their hard drive is full, the system crashes, and they can't boot it back up | May 03 15:19 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I mean he's not alone in the world. :) | May 03 15:19 |
| MinceR | :) | May 03 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Reason why I don't like soldered on TPM chips. | May 03 15:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: The idea that chips will not fail is insane. | May 03 15:20 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: And old platforms will never spill. | May 03 15:20 |
| MinceR | so the TPM is also a reliability issue | May 03 15:20 |
| GoForbes28 | *oil | May 03 15:20 |
| MinceR | one more chip that could break the system, but no useful functionality | May 03 15:20 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: what happened in canada? | May 03 15:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Most chips when they fail that are core are replaceable or have backup. | May 03 15:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie cpu fails you can replace it. | May 03 15:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Election that caused indigestion and nausea, requiring pepto bismol | May 03 15:21 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 15:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: ram controller has 2 busses so half gone no problems. | May 03 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | elections, heh | May 03 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | what are those? | May 03 15:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: PCIe busses have more than one master. | May 03 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | we don't have that in the US | May 03 15:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Notice something here. | May 03 15:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how many TPM chips do you have 1. | May 03 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Ok bugger. | May 03 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | the voting machine software decides for us | May 03 15:22 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: where it is at least pretended that state officials were selected according to the votes of the citizens. | May 03 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | all we can do is pretend we voted | May 03 15:22 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: we use paper here | May 03 15:22 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: We still use pencil and paper | May 03 15:22 |
| MinceR | and pen | May 03 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Paper and pen still can have fruad issues. | May 03 15:22 |
| GoForbes28 | The ultimate thing ever would be invented is some sort of mono + TPM for linux | May 03 15:22 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 03 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That just means that you guys actually did put those people there | May 03 15:23 |
| GoForbes28 | wouldn't that be awesome?!! | May 03 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | not sure you want to admit that | May 03 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | at least I can say I was cheated | May 03 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:23 |
| MinceR | also, they could probably steal the urn and have their voters vote afterwards | May 03 15:23 |
| oiaohm | There are quite a few good open source voting systems. | May 03 15:23 |
| MinceR | yes, like paper :> | May 03 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Problem comes when you dumbly used a closed source solution that no one can inspect. | May 03 15:23 |
| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | May 03 15:24 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I was meaning electronic ones. | May 03 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I use write in votes sometimes as a protest | May 03 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | I voted Ronald McDonald for Superior Court judge | May 03 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 15:24 |
| MinceR | electronic ones can still have the software replaced with the user being none the wiser, can they not? | May 03 15:24 |
| MinceR | usually they say it's worthless without a paper trail | May 03 15:24 |
| GoForbes28 | hi schestowitz: | May 03 15:24 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: not Cthulhu? | May 03 15:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Australia was one of the first todo it right. | May 03 15:24 |
| MinceR | how did they do it? | May 03 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Cthulu is more like state governor material | May 03 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and I think we already got him | May 03 15:25 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Electronic Voting and Counting System << You know the tally boards you see in australia. | May 03 15:25 |
| oiaohm | The software is fully open source and runs on Linux. MinceR | May 03 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes for a country that is like 90 percent MS. | May 03 15:26 |
| oiaohm | The voting system runs on open source software. | May 03 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The people that run in the local elections around here all scare the crap out of me | May 03 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | the churches fund some of them | May 03 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | under the table | May 03 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | as private contributions | May 03 15:26 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: do they have a storage medium for votes that isn't easy to tamper with without leaving evidence? | May 03 15:26 |
| GoForbes28 | Guess who won here. | May 03 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I've decided I've had it with mailing lists. Mass unsubscribing myself now. | May 03 15:27 | |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: i'm not all that familiar with canadian politics | May 03 15:27 |
| GoForbes28 | Well let's put in this way | May 03 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Right after the election, these people all start returning the favors. The mayor says it's OK to park a bible trailer outside the school and the judges say it's OK to kill your kids through neglect and say you prayed really hard that they wouldn't be sick anymore.... | May 03 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | and all other sorts of fun shit | May 03 15:28 |
| GoForbes28 | The right wing party, which merger with a area-specific farther right party, just got a majority | May 03 15:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.softimp.com.au/evacs/products.html You can play with it if you like. | May 03 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Improvements :: Open, transparent, verifiable electonic voting system .::. Size~: 14.79 KB | May 03 15:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i mean, the hardware :) | May 03 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There's actually a law on the books that says you can get out of your kids medical expenses if you pray for them | May 03 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google works w with carriers to kill tethering, violates spirit of the ‘open access’ it bid $4.6B for (This is My Next) http://bit.ly/mm2EkV | May 03 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] The two worst kinds of youtube users are 1) people who post bad quality vids and 2) people who post pointless vids. #fact | May 03 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ownership of TV Sets Falls in U.S. (NYT): http://nyti.ms/jbppJL | May 03 15:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google plays ball with carriers to kill tethering apps, violates spirit of the ‘open access’ it bid $4.6B to protect | This is my next... .::. Size~: 65.06 KB | May 03 15:28 |
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| *DaemonFC facepalms | May 03 15:28 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: very christian. | May 03 15:29 |
| Ender_nothome | silly ppl | May 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | [11:55] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [rrix/@rrix] Fuck all of this, I'm using pine. | May 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | [12:02] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] 10 #Ubuntu 11.04 Pre Installed Laptops and Netbooks - http://bit.ly/khtv29 useful list for #us, but confirms #dell is #awol | May 03 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | [12:07] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] In the Situation Room, aerial imagery of the Bin Laden compound - http://bit.ly/j09V33 "rather us not know just how detailed it can get" | May 03 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | [12:08] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] Trying To Limit Net Access, Dutch Telcos Accidentally Force Government To Speak Out On Net Neutrality - http://bit.ly/ipu4of ha! #nl | May 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | [12:08] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Trying To Limit Net Access, Dutch Telcos Accidentally Force Government To Speak Out On Net Neutrality | Techdirt .::. Size~: 28.47 KB | May 03 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | not sure that you really can get away with that though | May 03 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | [12:12] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner @samtuke (!fsfe UK) to #BT "please include #freedom in your new music service" http://l.fsfe.org/bt !fs Computerworld: htt ... | May 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | [12:12] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [harishpillay/@harishpillay] @rrix :-). mutt rocks for me. | May 03 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | BT connection went down again | May 03 15:30 |
| schestowitz | 12 ish | May 03 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | Who does have more pull in the government? Christians or the Medical establishment? | May 03 15:30 |
| MinceR | duh | May 03 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Grr, Flash is stealing sound output from all my other applications, damn you adobe. #angry | May 03 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Conservative Majority: What Next for Digital Policies? - http://bit.ly/jtP2aB useful summary of what #ca result might mean | May 03 15:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 03 15:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the storage system is design by Australian national achives. | May 03 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | both are big businesses | May 03 15:30 |
| MinceR | can you have a political career in yankeestan without making a thorough impression of being a devout christian? | May 03 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | but the church is better at evading taxes | May 03 15:30 |
| GoForbes28 | Hi schestowitz, from wonder Harper Country of America | May 03 15:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: That design has to be one of the strongest storage designs ever. | May 03 15:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: The storage system does not process the data. But records any alteration. | May 03 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, as long as you drop bombs on (non-white) children and don't get your dick sucked, I think you can go far in this countryu | May 03 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Layoffs begin at Novell's Utah base (H): http://bit.ly/lecWv7 | May 03 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] On second thought, Youtube sucks. #fact | May 03 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] PostgreSQL 9.1 beta adds synchronous replication (H): http://bit.ly/mw0XzM | May 03 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] yesterday QML, today JavaScript. some might call this torture, I call it fun! | May 03 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OpenBSD 4.9 adds support for NTFS file system (H): http://bit.ly/kyiRmP | May 03 15:32 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PostgreSQL 9.1 beta adds synchronous replication - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.09 KB | May 03 15:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenBSD 4.9 adds support for NTFS file system - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.18 KB | May 03 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Who cares if it has NTFS read support? | May 03 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Linux has had that for ages | May 03 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | in the kernel | May 03 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Nice has been that SE-PostgreSQL is now mainline. | May 03 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Linux has part write support as well. DaemonFC | May 03 15:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Enough to run loop back files on NTFS DaemonFC | May 03 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but only to existing files | May 03 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] DARPA says surveillance vid-search tool is ready for use (Register): http://bit.ly/leJIFu | May 03 15:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | I only really need support for XFS and FAT | May 03 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 15:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm glad I waited for Debian 6 to develop a bit | May 03 15:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Some of the FAILS on failblog lately completely suck, they dont even make sense. | May 03 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] That MLK quote about Osama was apparently made up yesterday: http://ur1.ca/42p83 (h/t @neuroboy) | May 03 15:35 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I think it is most definitely my distro of choice in the instantaneous future | May 03 15:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn !CC Licenses illegal http://is.gd/FMe3aI /via: @ruiseabra | May 03 15:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Now with FULL AUDIO of presentation available]... - Marcos Marado - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 9.06 KB | May 03 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @gbraad: Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn !CC Licenses illegal http://is.gd/FMe3aI /via: @ruiseabra | May 03 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Now with FULL AUDIO of presentation available]... - Marcos Marado - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 9.06 KB | May 03 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | The biggest drag I noticed about Unity is that there's no way by default to change your Compiz settings, any of them | May 03 15:44 |
| MinceR | that's the crAppleonical way | May 03 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | and when you do get the settings manager and start playing around with the settings, Unity starts freezing or becoming garbled | May 03 15:45 |
| MinceR | no settings for you! | May 03 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | I finally got all my settings in and logged out and in before it decided to crash again | May 03 15:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: ♺ @gbraad: Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn !CC Licenses illegal http://is.gd/FMe3aI /via: @ruiseabra | May 03 15:45 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Now with FULL AUDIO of presentation available]... - Marcos Marado - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 9.06 KB | May 03 15:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Try Xubuntu instead | May 03 15:47 |
| GoForbes28 | See how XFCE 4.8 is doing | May 03 15:47 |
| MinceR | try xfce on debian instead :> | May 03 15:48 |
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| GoForbes28 | or that | May 03 15:49 |
| GoForbes28 | :) | May 03 15:49 |
| GoForbes28 | I think 4.8 is in Sid now | May 03 15:49 |
| GoForbes28 | of course, the 38 kernel is in backports, great for me | May 03 15:49 |
| GoForbes28 | I knew waiting was a good idea | May 03 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | 4.8 of what? | May 03 15:50 |
| GoForbes28 | XFCE | May 03 15:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, its in there, Im using it | May 03 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I've been using .39 for a while | May 03 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | the radeon command stream checker in .38 won't allow texture compression | May 03 15:50 |
| Ender_nothome | omfg | May 03 15:50 |
| Ender_nothome | I'm surrounded by 252 communists | May 03 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | so there goes a lot of games, and a lot of the ones that do run are slower because of that | May 03 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Firefox4: Change Minimum Tab Width [Quick Tip] http://goo.gl/yXxyt | May 03 15:52 | |
| Ender_nothome | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Centre | May 03 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox4: Change Minimum Tab Width [Quick Tip] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.66 KB | May 03 15:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox, how to kill it with fire and install anything else | May 03 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 15:52 |
| MinceR | firefox, how to kill chrome with fire and install firefox instead | May 03 15:53 |
| oiaohm | Firefox and chrome dueling is a good thing. | May 03 15:53 |
| oiaohm | If they split the browser market 50/50 will be nice. | May 03 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | Bloatzilla Firebloat | May 03 15:53 |
| MinceR | Crashium | May 03 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian neocon Tories take a slim majority in election, pro-Internet New Democrats form the opposition http://ur1.ca/42pd3 | May 03 15:53 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Opera | May 03 15:53 |
| MinceR | oh, wait, this is the nonfree version | May 03 15:54 |
| MinceR | Google Crashe | May 03 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Really I have seen some of the tests of firefox with gcc 4.5 DaemonFC | May 03 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Fair better performance on Linux. | May 03 15:54 |
| GoForbes28 | wow diablo-d3, you seem to be optimistic about what the opposition can actually do | May 03 15:54 |
| GoForbes28 | Internets Exploiter | May 03 15:54 |
| Ender_nothome | Bloatzilla Firebloat :) | May 03 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Really next 12 months is going to be interesting. | May 03 15:54 |
| oiaohm | As distributions move up to gcc 4.5 and latter | May 03 15:55 |
| oiaohm | Lot of programs will start failing to build. | May 03 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | I've been using GCC 4.6 for kernels for a while now | May 03 15:55 |
| oiaohm | Due to gcc not putting up with a lot of crap code any more. | May 03 15:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy Microsoft-RIM partnership: because we all know two bricks float better than one. http://ig.com/5s2 | May 03 15:55 | |
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| GoForbes28 | ender, I think it's good to have some extremists in our mists. If nothing else, you add variety to our IRC channel :) | May 03 15:55 |
| oiaohm | Kernel has static analists softare they run all the time. DaemonFC | May 03 15:55 |
| oiaohm | So lot of crap code does not get in there. | May 03 15:56 |
| oiaohm | Should have seen all the lines of code firefox had to change so gcc 4.5 would build it. | May 03 15:56 |
| GoForbes28 | "http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-ballmer-announces-big-partnership-with-research-in-motion-2011-5" | May 03 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | May 03 15:56 |
| MinceR | whoa | May 03 15:56 |
| GoForbes28 | you gotta be kidding me | May 03 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | GCC 4.6's optimization is slightly better than 4.5's | May 03 15:56 |
| GoForbes28 | Stupid Microsoft, just die. | May 03 15:56 |
| MinceR | will they port crackberry from java to .net then? | May 03 15:56 |
| GoForbes28 | if so, watch their "security" go bye-bye | May 03 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You should get a job at RIM, then tell all your friends so they know you got a RIM job | May 03 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Vocoders... the KFC bargain bucket of #music. | May 03 15:57 | |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: i think just for once Ender_nothome meant real communists, in canada | May 03 15:57 |
| MinceR | somewhere | May 03 15:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: ancient joke is ancient | May 03 15:57 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 15:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Have you heard the media ender? | May 03 15:57 |
| MinceR | i think they've even removed the http://rim.jobs/ site | May 03 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | May 03 15:57 |
| oiaohm | RIM is having heavy competion presure. | May 03 15:57 |
| GoForbes28 | Everybody sounds like a naive moron | May 03 15:57 |
| oiaohm | Wonder of MS thinks they can sneak up on it like Nokia. | May 03 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | [10:53:14] <GoForbes28> wow diablo-d3, you seem to be optimistic about what the opposition can actually do | May 03 15:58 |
| MinceR | i wonder how long will RIM remain relevant | May 03 15:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | GoForbes28: worse: Im not Canadian. | May 03 15:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | I say we just cut that whole fucking country off the internet | May 03 15:58 |
| GoForbes28 | coulda fooled me :) | May 03 15:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Canada? | May 03 15:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Did #Wikileaks Fail New Zealand? - http://bit.ly/jy6XI1 perhaps it could have made a difference: so why didn't it try? #3strikes #nz | May 03 15:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Nokia wants to just get a premade OS at a fixed price so they don't have to do anything with their own products besides selling them | May 03 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Why Did Wikileaks Fail New Zealand? .::. Size~: 74.92 KB | May 03 15:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | along with france | May 03 15:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | and nz | May 03 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | that's how management thinks | May 03 15:58 |
| GoForbes28 | and everybody | May 03 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, we need japan | May 03 15:59 |
| GoForbes28 | it should be an executive toy | May 03 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | how else will we get raws to have fansubbed | May 03 15:59 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 15:59 |
| MinceR | :) | May 03 15:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: is RIM even relevant now? | May 03 15:59 |
| GoForbes28 | Congrats RIM on signing your soul to M$. Nortel is calling you to join them. | May 03 16:00 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: good question | May 03 16:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | was rim ever relevant? | May 03 16:00 |
| GoForbes28 | I think so | May 03 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'll tell you what's happening. Nokia thinks they'll save money and fire their in-house programmers, and Microsoft thinks they can get lots of people using Vista Phone 7 though Nokia | May 03 16:00 |
| oiaohm | For a short while RIm was relevent as the lead smart phone in the market. | May 03 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | what will happen is Nokia will go bankrupt and Microsoft will end up spending lots of money on another failed product | May 03 16:00 |
| GoForbes28 | Unless people actually buy the phones | May 03 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | Well, I think Mike Lazaridis gave Bill Gates... | May 03 16:01 |
| *Diablo-D3 puts on sunglasses | May 03 16:01 | |
| Diablo-D3 | a RIM job. | May 03 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has two things that sell | May 03 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and Office | May 03 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! | May 03 16:01 |
| GoForbes28 | In which I would lose respect for all humanity simultaneously | May 03 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | everything else is a disaster | May 03 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | or a break even | May 03 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 16:01 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Not everything | May 03 16:01 |
| oiaohm | You missed servers that connect to office | May 03 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spaniard Turns Tables on #Nintendo Over #Piracy Claims - http://bit.ly/l6pA8e kudos to this man #monopolies | May 03 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Damn you summer. Y U MAKE MY LUNGS HURT?! | May 03 16:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Spaniard Turns Tables on Nintendo Over Piracy Claims: Tech News and Analysis « .::. Size~: 66.24 KB | May 03 16:02 |
| GoForbes28 | I wish I could get a Pandora | May 03 16:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Cuando la palabra 'libre' en 'software libre' no importa ur1.ca/42ny8 !eol | May 03 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ian Tomlinson 'unlawfully killed' at G20 protests - http://bit.ly/jQU0UQ at least that... | May 03 16:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ian Tomlinson inquest verdict: live updates | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 117.95 KB | May 03 16:03 |
| Ender_nothome | im serious about the communists | May 03 16:04 |
| Ender_nothome | look at the riding for hamilton center | May 03 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh come on, not even a chuckle? | May 03 16:04 |
| Ender_nothome | 252 votes | May 03 16:04 |
| Ender_nothome | = 252 communists | May 03 16:04 |
| Ender_nothome | now I actually have to look under my bed | May 03 16:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: What kind of PC do you use? | May 03 16:05 |
| Ender_nothome | a good one :) | May 03 16:04 |
| GoForbes28 | no TPM? | May 03 16:04 |
| GoForbes28 | no Windows? | May 03 16:04 |
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| Ender_nothome | I have dual boot setup | May 03 16:05 |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-185-124-7.range86-185.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | May 03 16:05 | |
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| Ender_nothome | sometimes I play games on it | May 03 16:05 |
| GoForbes28 | I assume you don't have it connected to the Internet during those sessions? | May 03 16:05 |
| Ender_nothome | Intel Q6600 OC @ 3.0ghz, 8gb ram, nvidia 9800gtx+ | May 03 16:05 |
| MinceR | sometimes the game plays YOU!! | May 03 16:05 |
| MinceR | badum tish | May 03 16:05 |
| Ender_nothome | I do have it connected | May 03 16:05 |
| GoForbes28 | blue screen is the game that plays you | May 03 16:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: I wouldn't | May 03 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU farm chief: #GM food meets no quality, diversity criteria - http://bit.ly/kqNaQv wow: "citing the risk of mounting consumer distrust" | May 03 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey intertubes! Any idea how scalable SQLite is to run a Drupal off it? How busy needs the site to be before having problems? !LO | May 03 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Thinking open source: How startups destroy a culture of fear by @dblockdotorg http://red.ht/iUGvJJ | May 03 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Ian Tomlinson 'unlawfully killed' at G20 protests - http://bit.ly/jQU0UQ at least that... | May 03 16:06 | |
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| Ender_nothome | how am I going to play online? | May 03 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thinking open source: How startups destroy a culture of fear | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.09 KB | May 03 16:06 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: The communists are probably watching | May 03 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ian Tomlinson inquest verdict: live updates | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 117.13 KB | May 03 16:06 |
| MinceR | BSoD is just a scene from the game called windows | May 03 16:06 |
| Ender_nothome | LOL | May 03 16:06 |
| GoForbes28 | I actually talked to a consipiratist who talked about how corporations were evil and all | May 03 16:06 |
| Ender_nothome | I dont think it matters what OS I use - my internet traffic is being watched regardless | May 03 16:06 |
| GoForbes28 | and then didn't see the problem using Windows | May 03 16:07 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: Get a VPN | May 03 16:07 |
| Ender_nothome | it'll be watched from the end point | May 03 16:07 |
| GoForbes28 | Or wait for Wayne B. to post his anti-harper internet tutorial | May 03 16:07 |
| GoForbes28 | disable cookies | May 03 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !Android 2.3.4 rolling out to the !N1 , officially without video chat. Will sit tight and wait for !CyanogenMod to be updated :) | May 03 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Amazon Launches Membership-Only #Fashion Site - http://on.mash.to/iCQLX1 but could it say "boo" to Boo? | May 03 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is becoming evident that #Change is afar, beginning to look like the charlatan #Harper will become Governor of the northern State. #nafta | May 03 16:07 | |
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| Ender_nothome | even if you disable cookies they can fingerprint you | May 03 16:07 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: and that's what encryption is for | May 03 16:07 |
| MinceR | and anonymizing proxies | May 03 16:08 |
| MinceR | and VPNs | May 03 16:08 |
| Ender_nothome | encryption only keeps crackers out | May 03 16:08 |
| Ender_nothome | doesn't stop the gov't | May 03 16:08 |
| Ender_nothome | however, like in the book Ender's Game - i'm being watched as I play video games | May 03 16:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @agentsmith RT @rbanffy Microsoft-RIM partnership: because we all know two bricks float better than one. http://ig.com/5s2 | May 03 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @schestowitz It is becoming evident that #Change is afar, beginning to look like the charlatan #Harper will become Governor of the no ... | May 03 16:09 | |
| GoForbes28 | peerblock | May 03 16:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cable: The US-EU war on drug Harm Reduction http://alturl.com/6rkwi | May 03 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Ambassador project of the week: Lyrics by musiXmatch, a song lyric client for your mobi... http://bit.ly/iWwUmO #qtquick | May 03 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Curl It: 2D curling game with realistic gameplay http://goo.gl/wcVqM #OviStore #N900 #Maemo | May 03 16:11 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72559344 | May 03 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 11:37:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Roy, you awake? | May 03 16:11 |
| schestowitz | was he here? | May 03 16:11 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender, the government is complete incompetent when it comes ot the internet | May 03 16:11 |
| GoForbes28 | no | May 03 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | everyone knows peerblock | May 03 16:11 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72561789 | May 03 16:11 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Only on identi | May 03 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 12:23:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Speaking of non-intellectual, here are attacks against #Linux advocacy, truth countered with lies and FUD - http://v.gd/B5cvAM | May 03 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | GoForbes28: thanks | May 03 16:11 |
| Ender_nothome | but as I said it keeps the crackers out, and perhaps the RIAA/MPAA | May 03 16:11 |
| schestowitz | brb | May 03 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Veyr busy today... :-( and spent too much tim @ health club.. | May 03 16:11 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: I think you give the gov't too much credit | May 03 16:11 |
| MinceR | they could hire crackers | May 03 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's the thing | May 03 16:12 |
| Ender_nothome | I think you underestimate the gov't thanks to idiots like Bush | May 03 16:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Key word there is idiots | May 03 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | with the government, you always either give them way too much credit, or not enough | May 03 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 16:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One of my favourite GNU/Linux sites keeps going off- & -on-line due to the tornadoes and outages in the southern states. :-( #bt dodgy today | May 03 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - QML ShaderEffectItem on QGraphicsView - For those who don't yet know what ShaderEffec... http://ow.ly/1csTBE | May 03 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - Qt Modules' Maturity Level - You may have wondered if you have ever submitted a bug r... http://ow.ly/1csTBD | May 03 16:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72561789 | May 03 16:12 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 12:23:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Speaking of non-intellectual, here are attacks against #Linux advocacy, truth countered with lies and FUD - http://v.gd/B5cvAM | May 03 16:12 |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Higher the same crackers who fail at cracking in the first place | May 03 16:12 |
| GoForbes28 | *Hire | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | me: "@ghostler the trolls have not much of a chance in platforms like #identica" | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'd rather post there | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: hey | May 03 16:13 |
| Ender_nothome | it's in my opinion that a working quantum processor exists and is being used to cut through encryption like butter | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Did you hear re Novell? | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | And do you know anything about the layoffs? | May 03 16:13 |
| Ender_nothome | hell, theres a publicly known 14 qubit cpu | May 03 16:13 |
| Ender_nothome | meaning its entirely possible | May 03 16:13 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: someone posted an article on it earlier | May 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72572620 | May 03 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 15:08:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz All hail the new infallible and complete honest leader! [/sarcasm] | May 03 16:14 |
| Ender_nothome | you just have to speculate on how far advanced the military version is | May 03 16:14 |
| schestowitz | [Harper puts glasses on] | May 03 16:14 |
| Ender_nothome | the public never gets the best stuff | May 03 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @goforbes28: yes, very worrying... | May 03 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ghostler the trolls have not much of a chance in platforms like #identica | May 03 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh it is going to depend a lot on often data will be written to the database. Will visitors sign in? Can visitors create content? | May 03 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | "Intellectual harper" mode | May 03 16:14 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=15382738 | May 03 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Employees say hundreds laid off at Novell's Provo office - ksl.com .::. Size~: 46.6 KB | May 03 16:14 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 03 16:14 |
| schestowitz | will post about it soon | May 03 16:14 |
| schestowitz | techrights won | May 03 16:14 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: Don't forget how many computers there are in the world | May 03 16:14 |
| Ender_nothome | Ignatieff and Layton would be just as bad | May 03 16:14 |
| schestowitz | We helped to weaken Novell | May 03 16:14 |
| Ender_nothome | GoForbes28 - thats not an issue | May 03 16:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: I don't feel violently ill with them in chrage, so that is a plus | May 03 16:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Even it was just a single person, Harper to me is completely awful | May 03 16:15 |
| Ender_nothome | you think voting matters that's why | May 03 16:15 |
| Ender_nothome | globalism always wins at the polls | May 03 16:15 |
| GoForbes28 | I have a positive outlook on things | May 03 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra No. But I see D7 supports Postgres now as well. Might just use that TBH. | May 03 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The magic of WikiLeaks: Telling it like it is | SMH http://is.gd/ja74fw | May 03 16:16 | |
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| GoForbes28 | If I thought everything was hopeless, I'd probably just end my life right now | May 03 16:16 |
| Ender_nothome | what can you do | May 03 16:16 |
| schestowitz | you do well in Canada | May 03 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Compared to the lower 90% of the world | May 03 16:16 |
| Ender_nothome | these people have hundred year plans they follow through | May 03 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Had a chat about it with colleague last night, as she found herself depressed in Holland | May 03 16:17 |
| Ender_nothome | all they have to do is offer you false choice every 4-8 years | May 03 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Canada is still a benefactor of so-called NWO | May 03 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell died even before their MS #swpats deal expired (what happens to #Mono 1/1/2012?). Now there are layoffs. Will write about it shortly. | May 03 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | Not the abused countries that eat crow with WTO | May 03 16:17 |
| schestowitz | So to complain about it -- despite being a beneficiary in many ways -- is globally ethical but also self-nuking in a sense | May 03 16:18 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: If we killed the CRTC, it would be a huge moral booster for me for example | May 03 16:18 |
| GoForbes28 | small goals, big picture | May 03 16:18 |
| schestowitz | It's like the whole "aiding the enemy" thing | May 03 16:18 |
| Ender_nothome | the CRTC enforces international law, wont be going away | May 03 16:18 |
| schestowitz | But with the Internet it's easy to teach people how your peers of fellow countrymen who also abuse *you* abuse others | May 03 16:18 |
| schestowitz | So that the others can help rebel | May 03 16:19 |
| Ender_nothome | i dont think there is any benefit to world government | May 03 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Please RT: "Wear A Rubber Band On Your Right Wrist As You Vote": http://wp.me/pj2fj-rd #sgelection | May 03 16:19 | |
| GoForbes28 | right now, definitely not | May 03 16:19 |
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| GoForbes28 | if we lived in a Star Trek world, then yes | May 03 16:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Problem is, we have to mentally evolve | May 03 16:20 |
| GoForbes28 | that will take hundreds of years and few hundred thousand disasters | May 03 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] by chance I happened upon sherbet lollies at my local corner store, brings back memories. Not had any in decades http://is.gd/JmqULx #mmm | May 03 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Canadian Election: What just happened? http://alturl.com/paxbj | May 03 16:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sherbet Lolly .::. Size~: 13.9 KB | May 03 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011-05-02 The Canadian election: What just happened? | WL Central .::. Size~: 22.22 KB | May 03 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @newsbrooke British culture of secrecy at work: Coroners verdict: For legal reasons, jury was not permitted to name "the police officer" | May 03 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell has done so much to increase the risk to #Linux /users/ & did not even benefit from this sellout. Microsoft must be laughing loudly. | May 03 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Yipppieee, Blackberry OS gets even more fuckall. Now with sooooppppppppper dooooper Bing ! | May 03 16:24 | |
| GoForbes28 | Didn't they even consider how stupid "Bing" sounds? | May 03 16:25 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm just saying, at least Google has some sort of meaning | May 03 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ghostler this is typical !microsoft advocacy when they can't argue back.Means little since MS PR fund won't last as long as a foss advocate | May 03 16:27 | |
| GoForbes28 | Hey Roy, did you see the amount of Identi activity yesterday? | May 03 16:30 |
| gnufreex | GoForbes28: Balmer thinks Google is not a company, but just a sound. So he made another sound (bing) to beat google sound. | May 03 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arguing with World's Richest Man - http://bit.ly/lpztMc "Once we reach cost equivalence with coal, solar costs are going to keep declining" | May 03 16:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arguing with the World's Richest Man | DanaBlankenhorn .::. Size~: 48.59 KB | May 03 16:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I think this is the first time the IRC channel was exclusively dominated by Identi.ca conversations | May 03 16:31 |
| gnufreex | GoForbes28: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s | May 03 16:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Ex-Microsoft employee remembers the last sound he heard at Microsoft: Bing! .::. Size~: 113.53 KB | May 03 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "You can't have violent #hiphop or #metal lyrics at #Walmart, but you could still buy a #gun and #ammo…" #JelloBiafra !q | May 03 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Google Summer of Code 2011: students and projects - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/gsoc-2011-projects | May 03 16:32 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Steve Balmer sounds insane | May 03 16:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Not that that is a surprise | May 03 16:33 |
| MinceR | ballmer _is_ insane | May 03 16:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So is MS collecting failing phone makers? | May 03 16:34 | |
| MinceR | criminally insane. | May 03 16:34 |
| GoForbes28 | oh, the video was fictional | May 03 16:34 |
| gnufreex | Balmer has sounds in his head. | May 03 16:35 |
| GoForbes28 | That really shows how insane Balmer really is, that this could easily be true | May 03 16:35 |
| Ender_nothome | The Computer -> Neanderthallers -> Ecclesiastic Freemasonry -> Secret Societies -> The Media -> Religion -> Corporations -> Politicians -> You | May 03 16:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Schestowitz: Wayne Borean posted about fake Conservative bots generating fake activity | May 03 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Database: What is N+1 selects problem? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/97197/what-is-the-n1-selects-problem | May 03 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fools Gold, Stone Roses #Music | May 03 16:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: orm - What is the n+1 selects problem? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 60.35 KB | May 03 16:36 |
| Ender_nothome | 11:36 < GoForbes28> Schestowitz: Wayne Borean posted about fake Conservative bots generating fake activity | May 03 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I see... | May 03 16:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Schestowitz: Goes nicely with your PR article | May 03 16:36 |
| Ender_nothome | fake bots? | May 03 16:36 |
| Ender_nothome | seems harmless then | May 03 16:36 |
| schestowitz | [16:31] <gnufreex> GoForbes28: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s | May 03 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Fake | May 03 16:36 |
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| GoForbes28 | minus one fake :P | May 03 16:36 |
| GoForbes28 | but not that fake :P | May 03 16:36 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: our article | May 03 16:36 |
| gnufreex | ^^what he said | May 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | We have the co-edited version in the wiki | May 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: let's do an article... | May 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... | May 03 16:37 |
| schestowitz | i's an easy one | May 03 16:37 |
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| Ender_nothome | All the people who pass laws and enforce them wear dresses | May 03 16:38 |
| GoForbes28 | your bringing women into this now? | May 03 16:39 |
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| Ender_nothome | no | May 03 16:39 |
| Ender_nothome | priests, judges, scientists, whats the common denominator | May 03 16:40 |
| Ender_nothome | dresses | May 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/How_Windows_is_used_to_suppress_activists | May 03 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | This one is not urgent | May 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Can post it any time | May 03 16:40 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72573789 | May 03 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 15:24:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz IMHO MSFT actually cries. ;-) | May 03 16:41 |
| Ender_nothome | I'm waiting for 'How Windows is used to go back in time and dump c02 for dinosaurs extinction' | May 03 16:41 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72574035 | May 03 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 15:28:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ill try to be about tonight, it will depend greatly on how many things I have to so when I get home. | May 03 16:41 |
| GoForbes28 | @schestowtiz Are we going to write an article about Canada? | May 03 16:41 |
| Ender_nothome | of course! | May 03 16:41 |
| Ender_nothome | Roy's liberal :) | May 03 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Yesterday I shaved for the show. Guess I forgot we did 2 shows during the weekend anyway... | May 03 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Ender_nothome: libertarian | May 03 16:42 |
| GoForbes28 | so you didn't do the show? | May 03 16:42 |
| schestowitz | no | May 03 16:42 |
| schestowitz | but.. | May 03 16:42 |
| schestowitz | In the mean time we got the opening video | May 03 16:42 |
| Ender_nothome | you said liberal a week or two ago | May 03 16:42 |
| Ender_nothome | you know what though, lost my conspiracy notes at the bus station yesterday | May 03 16:43 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.msfn.org/_/software/microsoft-vs-us-antitrust-battle-soon-to-end-r352 | May 03 16:44 |
| Ender_nothome | im just hoping someone learns! | May 03 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft vs U.S. antitrust battle soon to end .::. Size~: 38.71 KB | May 03 16:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Not like much got done anyway, unless you call the Ie icon off the desktop somehow a victory | May 03 16:44 |
| GoForbes28 | Schestowitz: opening video? | May 03 16:44 |
| schestowitz | The one here: http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ | May 03 16:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bytes Media - Sites Index .::. Size~: 14.82 KB | May 03 16:45 |
| schestowitz | But it's proof of concept | May 03 16:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes this is typical !microsoft advocacy when they can't argue back.Means little since MS PR fund won't last as long as a foss advoc | May 03 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rbanffy Microsoft-RIM partnership: because we all know two bricks float better than one. http://ig.com/5s2 | May 03 16:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Ballmer Announces Big Partnership With Research In Motion .::. Size~: 118.66 KB | May 03 16:46 |
| GoForbes28 | interested | May 03 16:46 |
| GoForbes28 | I may even try to make one myself :P | May 03 16:47 |
| Ender_nothome | I think that next time around ill start my own party | May 03 16:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Call it Techrigts | May 03 16:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Techrights | May 03 16:47 |
| Ender_nothome | lol no | May 03 16:47 |
| *DaemonFC is back from the store | May 03 16:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Who wants a TAB? :P | May 03 16:47 |
| MinceR | he'll call it Everyone's a Communist and We're Against Them Party | May 03 16:47 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: They still make it?!! | May 03 16:48 |
| Ender_nothome | no thats the tag line | May 03 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Everyone else is a Jesus hating Communist and possibly a homosexual party | May 03 16:48 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, Republicans | May 03 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | nm | May 03 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, Yep | May 03 16:48 |
| Ender_nothome | daemonfc | May 03 16:48 |
| Ender_nothome | i dont believe in jesus | May 03 16:48 |
| Ender_nothome | je suis = i am | May 03 16:49 |
| Ender_nothome | its coded | May 03 16:49 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: That's sort of neat | May 03 16:49 |
| GoForbes28 | sort fo | May 03 16:49 |
| GoForbes28 | sort of | May 03 16:49 |
| Ender_nothome | Christ has IRS in it | May 03 16:49 |
| Ender_nothome | they ar tax collectors | May 03 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I need a CLI-based program for merging AVIs | May 03 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | You're a Jesus hating possibly homosexual Communist that doesn't support Israel? | May 03 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | this just keeps getting worse! | May 03 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | we have to act! | May 03 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 16:50 |
| Ender_nothome | SOROS!!!! | May 03 16:50 |
| Ender_nothome | (in the voice of shatner) | May 03 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | Ender_nothome, Where's your quota of offspring to keep our pure Aryan race of supermen going strong? | May 03 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | Are they not giving you enough tax incentives to reproduce in Canada? | May 03 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | :( | May 03 16:52 |
| Ender_nothome | not enough no | May 03 16:52 |
| Ender_nothome | unless its quebec | May 03 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Tea + Sore Throat = Win | May 03 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell is Already Shrinking Under #AttachMSFT ’s Reign http://is.gd/pGF5KV #attachmate #cptn #provo #swpats #gnu #linux #mono | May 03 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell is Already Shrinking Under AttachMSFT ’s Reign http://is.gd/pGF5KV #microsoft #utah #layoffs #ronhovsepian #sellout | May 03 16:52 | |
| Ender_nothome | ill be having 6 blonde hair blue eyed boys | May 03 16:52 |
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| DaemonFC | boys are worth less | May 03 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 16:53 |
| gnufreex | So US DOJ is leting MSFT off the hook | May 03 16:53 |
| Ender_nothome | none of them will have the X chromosome with its leg broken | May 03 16:53 |
| MinceR | will you be having them for lunch or dinner? | May 03 16:54 |
| Ender_nothome | breakfast | May 03 16:54 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell HarperCollins: Limited Checkouts on #eBooks is Wrong for Libraries - http://bit.ly/lvGlqa interesting #epetition | May 03 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: What Pakistan told the US about Osama bin Laden http://is.gd/IVJjej | May 03 16:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Education Petition: Tell HarperCollins: Limited Checkouts on eBooks is Wrong for Libraries | Change.org .::. Size~: 65.63 KB | May 03 16:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://movieclips.com/CDJTP-office-space-movie-talking-to-the-bobs/ | May 03 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Office Space Movie - Talking to the Bobs Video | MOVIECLIPS .::. Size~: 108.87 KB | May 03 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://movieclips.com/4aBM-office-space-movie-did-you-get-the-memo/ | May 03 16:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Office Space Movie - Did You Get the Memo? Video | MOVIECLIPS .::. Size~: 111.63 KB | May 03 16:58 |
| Ender_nothome | :) | May 03 16:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had one of those days today I used to worry about years ago. | May 03 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vatican blogger meeting says no to #copyright, yes to lifting content - http://bit.ly/lYWTWB straws in the wind? #blogging | May 03 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Yes, there is coffee in the cup. http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110503 #sip_and_click | May 03 17:01 | |
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| Ender_nothome | waaaaaaaaaahhhh! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ignatieff-resigns-after-liberal-defeat/article2008182/ | May 03 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ignatieff resigns after Liberal defeat - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 111.55 KB | May 03 17:01 |
| MinceR | waaaaagh | May 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://movieclips.com/2pyJo-office-space-movie-motivation-problems/ | May 03 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Office Space Movie - Motivation Problems Video | MOVIECLIPS .::. Size~: 109.01 KB | May 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Duden.de ab sofort kostenlos - http://bit.ly/kQ9Qng why, that's really "http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/toll" #de #free | May 03 17:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | GoForbes28, two 12 packs of TAB, a bag of whole bean Kenyan coffee, a bag of doritos, some nacho cheese popcorn, and sandwich spread | May 03 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 17:04 |
| *DaemonFC lives on junk food | May 03 17:05 | |
| *DaemonFC is much like a cockroach, and can survive on anything | May 03 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hey Buddy should have been Go Buddy Go Buddy Go Go Go. | May 03 17:06 | |
| DaemonFC | after the nuclear war, there will be cockroaches, me, jono, and maybe Cher | May 03 17:06 |
| gnufreex | Hmm.. does this link work for you freedomincluded.com/ | May 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I take it you haven't used GNOME 3 or Unity | May 03 17:07 |
| gnufreex | http://freedomincluded.com/ | May 03 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/svg+xml type | May 03 17:07 |
| MinceR | i haven't | May 03 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US DVD sales plummet 20% - http://bit.ly/iG0yHO hey, I've heard this song before #cds #music #digital | May 03 17:07 | |
| gnufreex | Thta site worked | May 03 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US DVD sales plummet 20% | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 139.02 KB | May 03 17:07 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why, is there anything good to expect of them? | May 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | at least Unity's global menu does something besides have an icon of the highlighted program and a QUIT button when you click on that | May 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Unity is better than GNOME 3 | May 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | I say that because GNOME 3 is entirely useless | May 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | If GNOME 3 was the only desktop environment, I'd just give up and use Windows | May 03 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | it sucks :) | May 03 17:09 |
| MinceR | you can't live without a DE? | May 03 17:09 |
| GoForbes28 | That's actually kind of sad DaemonFC | May 03 17:10 |
| GoForbes28 | bbl | May 03 17:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Anglo Saxons want to blame and feel cheated we need a bloody good dose of Swiss. | May 03 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, GNOME 3 is the worst desktop environment I think I've ever seen, anywhere | May 03 17:11 |
| MinceR | sounds like it's time for you to give OSuX a try | May 03 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing that felt more halfassed that I can recall using was the Windows 3.1 program manager | May 03 17:11 |
| MinceR | at least you could replace progman :> | May 03 17:12 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I am looking for that TR post about MSFT guy talking at some LUG... when he couldn't answer hard questionss... do you remember the tittle? | May 03 17:12 |
| gnufreex | It is "worst MSFT infiltration ever" or something | May 03 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I had Central Point Desktop when I used Windows 3.1 | May 03 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Congrats to this week's #linuxcon Twitter/identi.ca winner @smaffulli : "Linux is mine and yours and theirs" #linux #funambol | May 03 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I understand that, but our terrible electoral system has turned off so many voters its a big problem. Almost half don't vote. | May 03 17:12 | |
| DaemonFC | http://toastytech.com/guis/cpdesk.html | May 03 17:13 |
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| jono | schestowitz ping? | May 03 17:13 |
| gnufreex | nvm, i found it http://techrights.org/2010/07/25/clug-microsoft-party-line/ | May 03 17:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell is Similar to #Nortel http://is.gd/4cWDvQ #swpats #cartel #cptn | May 03 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell is Similar to Nortel http://is.gd/4cWDvQ #tivo #uspto #monopoly | May 03 17:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] LHL's "we are sorry" at 6:30 is not really what is needed. No addressing of ministerial high wages, etc - http://ur1.ca/42o1h #sgelection | May 03 17:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yesterday we had a minority government from 5,209,069 votes....Today a majority government from 5,832,401 votes http://ur1.ca/42let !cdnpoli | May 03 17:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | hey jono, I'm sure you've probably ran into this if you use Unity | May 03 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Why does it become garbled every time you enable or disable a Compiz plugin? | May 03 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FoxNews gets its Osamas and Obamas in a twist http://is.gd/8ZXJ4H accidental? or wet dream of a Republican mouthpiece? | May 03 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I was harsh on the 360 with its RROD, but !Sony really seems to have a complete mess on its hands hack issue....disgraceful, very poor show. | May 03 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Who maintains RPM? (2011 edition) http://lwn.net/Articles/441085/rss | May 03 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I haven't missed the !PSN as Ive had other things to do, but the whole outage is now bordering on the ridiculous. How much longer !sony ? | May 03 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My laserjet should arrive tomorrow. Not at all a relevant event in human history, but s/what relevant for my own workflow. | May 03 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I think in future !sony better stay very quiet when shortcomings of other console platforms are mentioned. | May 03 17:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In Canada, 623,332 votes can mean 24 seats in Parliament and 937,613 votes can mean 0 seats in Parliament. !cdnpoli *needs* electoral reform | May 03 17:26 | |
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| schestowitz | [17:12] <gnufreex> schestowitz: I am looking for that TR post about MSFT guy talking at some LUG... when he couldn't answer hard questionss... do you remember the tittle? | May 03 17:30 |
| schestowitz | south African? | May 03 17:30 |
| schestowitz | It was in July 2010 | May 03 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why has someone not invented a truly useful machine that can return fridge cheese to room ambient temperature quickly? | May 03 17:31 | |
| schestowitz | After I had come from London | May 03 17:31 |
| Wonderful example of prior violations of medical privacy http://books.google.com/books?id=9gREAAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA620&ots=6W6zsnI7t3&dq=tiz%20feet&pg=PA646#v=onepage&q=tiz%20feet&f=false | May 03 17:31 | |
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| schestowitz | Look around mid July | May 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | maybe 21st | May 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | jono: hey | May 03 17:31 |
| something to keep in mind as Microsoft tries to suck up medical records | May 03 17:31 | |
| jono | schestowitz hey | May 03 17:32 |
| jono | are we on for the interview in 1hr 30m? | May 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72572620 | May 03 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 15:08:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz All hail the new infallible and complete honest leader! [/sarcasm] | May 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | jono: sure | May 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | has Tim spoken to you about it? I assume so... | May 03 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK:Never Give Up: Perfect 10 Sues Giganews Usenet Service http://tinyurl.com/6y8eqjg !p2p !usenet | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do the #Maths - http://bit.ly/lUl0sX proof that software patents are monopolies on knowledge #lambdacalculus #google | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And re my last dent, what did I say a long while ago? It wouldn't be long before Usenet was targetted more agressively as users migrated. | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The first rule of Usenet -Don't mention Usenet. Problem is, the cats out of the bag and the average sharer has seen theres no swarm "issues" | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Do the #Maths - http://bit.ly/lUl0sX proof that software patents are monopolies on knowledge #lambdacalculus #google | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: IP-Address Is Not a Person, BitTorrent Case Judge Says http://tinyurl.com/3kxo9ao -- How long has it taken them to work this out? | May 03 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Heh. For some reason Drupal tries to connect to MySQL. Can you turn that off? | May 03 17:32 | |
| jono | schestowitz cool, _Goblin said he was good to go, but I just wanted to check with you | May 03 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New on our contributor spotlight: @artseavey - thanks for your contributions to http://opensource.com/ | May 03 17:32 | |
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| jono | schestowitz yep | May 03 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | yes, I'm good to go :-) | May 03 17:32 |
| jono | schestowitz will you jus call me on Skype video? | May 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | yes, although it's not a video show, I think | May 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | We still address some technical issues like opening theme and screen layout | May 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Episode #1 comes soon | May 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see now: | May 03 17:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72574035 | May 03 17:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 15:28:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ill try to be about tonight, it will depend greatly on how many things I have to so when I get home. | May 03 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Let's have fun explaining what's good about Ubuntu 11.0.4 | May 03 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why the fuck does my D7 have no PostgreSQL checkbox??? | May 03 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Do the #Maths - http://bit.ly/lUl0sX proof that software patents are monopolies on knowledge #lambdacalculus #google | May 03 17:34 | |
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| schestowitz | Let's have fun explaining what's good about Ubuntu 11.04 | May 03 17:34 |
| *schestowitz still on 10.04 | May 03 17:34 | |
| MinceR | shortest show ever? :> | May 03 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. | May 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | It's easier with someone like jono on the show | May 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, I dented about ubuntu 11.04 like 500 times | May 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | It's about time we did something better organised, I haven't blogged about it | May 03 17:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk urp. I got sucked into the election stuff, so I'm a wee bit behind. I have done a final-final proof-proof of my book-book.... | May 03 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All police officers will be stopped from policing demonstrations from now on under the new pre crime laws developed the police. #law | May 03 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ... i just figured out how to get my fonts into Trisquel so now I can make the corrections in the digital file and upload-upload :D | May 03 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All police officers will be stopped from policing demonstrations from now on under the new pre crime laws developed by the police. #law | May 03 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/65442369696301056 | May 03 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz …becoming evident… #Harper'll become Governor of the northern State. #nafta ☚ #LawfulAccess next? #Canada http://is.gd/KLzyir | May 03 17:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Pranesh Prakash Speaks About Software Patents http://is.gd/kfFouf thanks to @pranesh_prakash from @cis_india | May 03 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Video: Pranesh Prakash Speaks About Software Patents http://is.gd/kfFouf #swpats #uspto #monopoly | May 03 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "I make no apologies that the PAP is the Government and the Government is the PAP." - LKY, 1982, Petir http://ur1.ca/42pzll #sgelection | May 03 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Starting to fall in love with #nodejs. | May 03 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk of course, in the games he was a time traveller, in the books I assume he just lived forever | May 03 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah! Got it! :D | May 03 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] recording a !techbytes episode with rockstar and #Ubuntu community manager @jonobacon tonight. | May 03 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @smaffulli @linuxfoundation: Congrats to this week's #linuxcon Twitter/identi.ca winner @smaffulli : "Linux is mine and yours and theirs" | May 03 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @smaffulli @linuxfoundation: Congrats to this week's #linuxcon Twitter/identi.ca winner @smaffulli : "Linux is mine... http://b1t.it/itn | May 03 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh permissions? I know you are busy as hell, but I'd love to read a little blog post about getting that shit working | May 03 17:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh shit. Seems like my Postgres version is too old. DAMNIT!!! | May 03 17:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking old Centos 5 shite!!!! | May 03 17:49 | |
| koolhead17 | hi all | May 03 17:51 |
| gnufreex_ | hi | May 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | hi | May 03 17:53 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex_: koolhead17 is presenting at a KDE conference | May 03 17:54 |
| gnufreex_ | nice | May 03 17:54 |
| gnufreex_ | when is that conferecene... and where? | May 03 17:55 |
| schestowitz | see kde.org | May 03 17:56 |
| schestowitz | the dot | May 03 17:56 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz its desktop summit. Jointly organized by Gnome guys :) | May 03 17:57 |
| koolhead17 | gnufreex_: its in berlin this year aug 5-11 | May 03 17:57 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz am still not sure. i am looking for travel sponsorship :) | May 03 17:57 |
| koolhead17 | hi jono_ | May 03 17:57 |
| schestowitz | ask the Gates Foundation | May 03 17:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | hey schestowitz | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | All you need to do is advertise him | May 03 17:58 |
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| koolhead17 | Ender_nothome: hi | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | He spends a million dollars a day paying people to worship him in public | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | It's called "advocacy" | May 03 17:58 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz who? | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Gates | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Pearly | May 03 17:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://identi.ca/notice/72579938 | May 03 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 16:53:19 UTC - Identi.ca: No wonder StackOverflow is so slow, its written in C#! http://ur1.ca/42q20 #lol !linux | May 03 17:58 |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: retweet | May 03 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Our generation's crook-turned-hero | May 03 17:59 |
| schestowitz | ha | May 03 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "I make no apologies that the PAP is the Government and the Government is the PAP." - LKY, 1982, Petir http://ur1.ca/42pz1 #sgelection | May 03 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 #Ubuntu 11.04 Pre Installed Laptops and Netbooks http://is.gd/uGsU1a mobile devices come with #Android a lot, #unity targets same market | May 03 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Tired. Going home. Sheep! | May 03 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Tired. Going home. Sheep! | May 03 17:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Berlin Wall artists sue city in #copyright controversy - http://bit.ly/kbxVmL </sigh> #de | May 03 18:01 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72580084 https://identi.ca/notice/72580125 | May 03 18:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 16:55:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ive been getting pressure from the good lady wife to do jobs around the house. I will try my best to be available later..... | May 03 18:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 16:56:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz sorry about that...juggling life can often be a logistical nightmare! | May 03 18:02 |
| schestowitz | me: "jono and I are waiting, aiming @ 7pm, I think" | May 03 18:02 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz haha | May 03 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Facebook fires back at #Assange: “We don’t respond to pressure” - http://tnw.co/lchffq so they do it of their own free will? | May 03 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Berlin Wall artists sue city in #copyright controversy - http://bit.ly/kbxVmL </sigh> #de | May 03 18:02 | |
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| koolhead17 | schestowitz what are you guys upto? you and jono_ | May 03 18:03 |
| schestowitz | we do a nice show today | May 03 18:03 |
| schestowitz | techbytes | May 03 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Student Outreach: Bauhaus – Open Interaction Design Class of 2011 Wrap-Up http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2011/05/03/student-outreach-b | May 03 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Commission & European industry join forces to build Internet of the Future - http://bit.ly/iNeSak what, the Great Firewall of Europe one? | May 03 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | We also create a new site for the video version of the show http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ | May 03 18:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @diablomarcus Listening to @fontana talk about !disturbing things on #faifcast. thanks to all involved! | May 03 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We are still working on building a site to serve as an umbrella for !techbytes and #techbytes video http://bytesmedia.co.uk/ | May 03 18:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Who buys these damned Keurig coffee makers? | May 03 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | they're everywhere now :P | May 03 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's like bottled water | May 03 18:06 |
| jono_ | DaemonFC, I love ours | May 03 18:06 |
| jono_ | no more messy coffee machine | May 03 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | you wuss | May 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | you would make something like Unity | May 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: jono has his own show http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/ | May 03 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe one day he'll resume and I'll download | May 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | jono_, I used one over at my aunt's house, the same one who likes Vista7 and IE and makes sure her Norton is always paid up | May 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's novel, but it's a novelty that could get expensive fast the way I drink coffee | May 03 18:08 |
| koolhead17 | hehe | May 03 18:09 |
| koolhead17 | DaemonFC: hi | May 03 18:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Breaks the 10% Mark http://is.gd/7lllv2 which is great news. @glynmoody almost thought the unthinkable http://is.gd/Obc2Z9 | May 03 18:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | they sell those reusable kcup things which kind of defeats the point (since you have to clean up a mess) | May 03 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | koolhead17, Hello :) | May 03 18:09 |
| jono_ | DaemonFC, yeah, it is expensive | May 03 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call it when a national leader has his youngest son and three grand children killed in an air raid? Un-newsworthy #shame #Libya | May 03 18:11 | |
| jono_ | when I first moved here we bought a machine for $20 and it was *awesome* | May 03 18:11 |
| jono_ | bit more messy, but great | May 03 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | jono bacon gets up in the morning and uses his keurig, then he eats some bacon with some bacon wrapped eggs and toast with bacon grease instead of butter, he was all out of bacon butter | May 03 18:11 |
| jono_ | the Keurig is all fancy | May 03 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | then he goes to work making Unity crash in all of my use cases | May 03 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | but his name is bacon so you must respect him | May 03 18:11 |
| *DaemonFC bows | May 03 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | Jono Ono | May 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | jono_ is fancy, after his bacon and keurig breakfast, it's off to the baconmobile, to go to the store for some more bacon | May 03 18:12 |
| schestowitz | BTW, she's popular on the Web, it seems | May 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | on the way back he stops and gets a baconator | May 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 18:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME desktop: On pointer control http://is.gd/5CS5Tl #fedora #gnu #linux | May 03 18:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | after a hard day's work, jono goes to take a shower, only instead of buying soap (he was out of money after the Keurig), he uses something he rendered himself out of bacon grease | May 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 18:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you like bacon | May 03 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Project News - May 2nd, 2011 http://is.gd/nae2M4 "Debian Project mourns the loss of Adrian von Bidder" | May 03 18:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | May 03 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin serves bacon in his house. Delicious. Bacon is in Tim's house. | May 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Someone asked me why I had so many candles, I told him I rendered them from the fat of my enemies | May 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Re: Botnets exploit #Linux owners' ignorance http://is.gd/oMGgyK as in #Android where the user has to actually *install* the bad app | May 03 18:17 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: hi! | May 03 18:17 |
| *schestowitz drools at bacon being spread supine | May 03 18:17 | |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 03 18:18 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: we are only recording the interview tonight right? | May 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, I think | May 03 18:18 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: we can put it into the show we record later in the week.... | May 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Unless you can afford time for more stuff | May 03 18:18 |
| _Goblin | its just Im limited on time....very limited | May 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: sure | May 03 18:18 |
| _Goblin | cool | May 03 18:18 |
| _Goblin | sorted.... | May 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | what time do we start? I can do any time | May 03 18:19 |
| _Goblin | I suppose its up to jono.... | May 03 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Oh | May 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They're having some kind of Mono conference on a Microsoft campus near Boston I heard | May 03 18:19 |
| _Goblin | fyi...Gordon wont be with us. | May 03 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I see you in tuxmachines now | May 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | maybe jono_ can get tickets and tell us how it was | May 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 18:19 |
| schestowitz | her site was down again today, maybe the weather causes outages in her house | May 03 18:19 |
| _Goblin | yeah I saw that... | May 03 18:19 |
| _Goblin | Well whenever jono is ready, I'll be too. | May 03 18:20 |
| schestowitz | she was downed for 2.5 days last week(ish) | May 03 18:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin is closing a shell\ | May 03 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft usually distances themselves enough from Mono to keep the question of whether they're going to sue over it up in the air | May 03 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | it surprises me they're hosting this | May 03 18:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: we can sort out track intros later | May 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | Miguel de Icaza keeps saying C# is more pleasant than Java like that means anything | May 03 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gbraad gbraad: Portugal's biggest political party wants to turn #CC Licenses illegal http://is.gd/FMe3aI /via: @ruiseabra | May 03 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All police officers will be stopped from policing demonstrations from now on under the new pre crime laws developed the police. #law | May 03 18:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mono now lets you bypass its "safety" checks when you write something with a .NET language | May 03 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | now you can have slow apps in a Microsoft language that have memory leaks! | May 03 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | What a deal! | May 03 18:24 |
| schestowitz | For Microsoft | May 03 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Who asked for all the worst parts of C# and C++ together? | May 03 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | it still won't be as fast as C++ but you can have all the same types of bugs | May 03 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised he even wrote a blog post calling that a feature | May 03 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | the whole argument for Java or .NET was supposed to be that they made it really easy for incompetent programmers to write applications that might not explode | May 03 18:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A further 25 million playstation accounts cracked. http://is.gd/dgi61R #security | May 03 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My Impressions of #Ubuntu 11.04 http://is.gd/wBRcDB more @ http://is.gd/EBpT74 http://is.gd/KUmvT8 | May 03 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Excellent and calm rebuttal by Low TK (http://ur1.ca/42q79) against #PAPsmear at http://ur1.ca/42q7d #sgelection | May 03 18:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, there were other things too, but incompetent programmers always whine about things like garbage collection after their poorly written C++ leaks memory all over the place | May 03 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | ahem, Firefox | May 03 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they should start over in C# :P | May 03 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I keep seeing articles that justify #unity by saying it simplifies "Linux" (e.g. http://is.gd/Yz33Cl ), but was #GNOME 2 really "hard"? | May 03 18:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | you can get good results with C++, there are good rendering engines written in it that are very efficient | May 03 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | KHTML, Webkit, and Presto just to name a few | May 03 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | not all the blame falls on C++, it's just really dangerous in the hands of the people that tend to use it to do things they shouldn't | May 03 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Firefox 5 Beta Build Posted http://is.gd/mBeFrg version is just a number (or was it "Age"?) | May 03 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: How are we formally educated? http://red.ht/mTbMFH | May 03 18:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First Firefox 5 Beta Build Posted | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 36.72 KB | May 03 18:31 |
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| DaemonFC | none of the good rendering engines written in C++ ever decided to do anything insane, like XUL or XPCOM | May 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There was a time when XUL sounded really cool to me, then I found that (1) The only runtime for it *is* Gecko and (2) Gecko is a pig | May 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | and (3) Who wants to drag Gecko around just to run some stupid little thing? | May 03 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | an example of this is the stand alone Chatzilla | May 03 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | the app is 400k and the Xulrunner is 20 megs | May 03 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that's with the advantage of a system-wide shared Xulrunner and distro packaged Chatzilla | May 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | if you were trying to distribute something on your own, you'd have to statically link to a private copy of Xulrunner :) | May 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | (there's a reason the only things written in XUL are extensions for Firefox and not actual programs) | May 03 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Privacy #Schneier: "The Eternal Value of Privacy" http://ur1.ca/418db | May 03 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome timelapse photography of crowds at WP rally at Yishun http://ur1.ca/42q96 #sgelection | May 03 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE: Unity Setup http://is.gd/kpHyRM #lacelot and #kwin ought to be enough for #kde power | May 03 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC, or Not PC, That Is the Question for #GNU #Linux Users http://is.gd/r6pudE | May 03 18:46 | |
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| Ender_nothome | http://www.infowars.com/royal-family-enforces-media-embargo-against-australia-to-prevent-nazi-jokes/ | May 03 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: » Royal Family Enforces Media Embargo Against Australia To Prevent Nazi Jokes Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! .::. Size~: 210.67 KB | May 03 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2265/screenshotqcp.png | May 03 18:51 |
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| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 18:51 |
| jono_ | schestowitz, _Goblin getting set up now | May 03 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ uname -rnm && glxinfo | grep Mesa | May 03 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | ryan-MS-7501 2.6.39-rc5-git6-ryan1 x86_64 | May 03 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI | May 03 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.11-devel (git-a677952 ubuntu-natty-graphics-drivers-ppa) | May 03 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 03 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | jono_ Gallium3d with LLVM on the latest mainline kernel | May 03 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | makes for a very happy Compiz B-) | May 03 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Voting time after time in supposed representative democracy & never electing anyone is frustrating. People give up. (I'm stubborn) | May 03 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I've been listening to the non-partisan fairvote.ca folks, presentations etc. and they're really looking at solutions. !elxn41 | May 03 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Osama Bin Laden and the New Ecosystem of News (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/ieyDyp | May 03 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I'm pretty sure it is an international movement (because i *must* type the .ca in the browser bar to get the Canadian flavour) | May 03 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No Martha Stewart live stream from the Wired NYC Disrupt conference, alas. | May 03 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Twitter to buy tweetdeck. Guess statusnet support will be removed as first action. :-( | May 03 19:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Sum 41 - Noots | May 03 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz i'd love your voter turnout numbers here... broken system compounded by fact only 24% of all voters has elected the majority !cdnpoli | May 03 19:06 | |
| Ender_nothome | it was more than that | May 03 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Attachmate lays off Mono employees http://bit.ly/lmqTAZ including a comment from Attachmate CO Jeff Hawn who confirmed the restructuring. | May 03 19:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ahh, no, there's Marty: http://bit.ly/lL1IHv | May 03 19:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @smaffulli Socialist party wants to ban Creative Commons in Portugal http://is.gd/jwfqU2 What's wrong with these people? | May 03 19:17 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Is Jono being intervied now? | May 03 19:18 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 03 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 133 million downloads on 2011-05-03 18:17 UTC | May 03 19:19 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: cpp; | May 03 19:20 |
| sebsebseb | cool | May 03 19:20 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and I am catching up no the show episode 36 now | May 03 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | uh | May 03 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | 37 I mean | May 03 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Listened to 1st third of !lo 204; interview questions presented to @allisonrandal re #Harmony strike me as #softball thus far !disturbing | May 03 19:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/441153/rss | May 03 19:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @smaffulli Socialist party wants to ban Creative Commons in Portugal http://is.gd/jwfqU2 What's wrong with these people? | May 03 19:42 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hey, anybody hear about this court case involving marijuana in Canada, one that would effectively make it legal after so many days if no action is taken by the gov't? | May 03 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] The infamous law proposal from PS which will kill !cc in Portugal http://blog.1407.org/2011/05/03/proposta-do-ps-de-lei-da-copia-privada/ PT | May 03 19:44 | |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I like having a song in the middle | May 03 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | and at end | May 03 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: like that Ameian thing I listened to. really good when the episode isn't of much interest as well :) have a brake from the babble for some music :) | May 03 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | and that's American above | May 03 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_Canada#R._v._Mernagh_2011_Ontario_Superior_Court | May 03 19:48 |
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| GoForbes28 | Well, that's one way to weather the Harper majority | May 03 19:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #German Company Switches 10,000 machines to #Ubuntu | Linux Journal http://is.gd/UnqqSj #gnu #linux #windows #microsoft #insurance #lvm | May 03 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Agenda digitală: Comisia și industria europeană își unesc forțele pentru a construi internetul viitorului http://is.gd/sfM7hn #eu #kroes #ro | May 03 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: RT @jquery: jQuery 1.6 Released! http://j.mp/jquery16 Includes full rewrite of attribute module and performance improvements. | May 03 19:52 | |
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| abeNd-org | schestowitz: And do you know anything about the layoffs? - nothing that I have heard from anyone on the red/green side | May 03 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] What’s up with SUMO – May 3 http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2011/05/03/whats-up-with-sumo-may-3/ | May 03 19:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: Australian internet users more social, connected and politically aware than non-users http://om.ly/BTYOM #gov20 | May 03 20:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners server is running again. | May 03 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] PC, or Not PC, That Is the Question for Linux Users http://is.gd/r6pudE #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #hardware #mac #apple | May 03 20:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_at_ibm: Come see single server simplicity with #linux and #zVM at booth 804 @RedHatSummit http://bit.ly/kp7vo4 #ibm | May 03 20:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good evening !identiverse | May 03 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: From @All1Ann Govt Agencies Sharing Best Practices for Collaboration http://me.lt/9o7qT | May 03 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 'PC User' Doesn't Mean 'Windows User' http://is.gd/o9toeh #microsoft #windows #software #pc #mac #apple #linux #gnu | May 03 20:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Get Your Game on with Intel AppUp(SM) center http://t.co/rruHxaW via @intelnews | May 03 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Symbian Anna PR2.0 Icon Pack for Maemo 5! http://bit.ly/mMlHJJ #N900 #Maemo | May 03 20:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] KDE e.V. Publishes Final Report for 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/441195/rss | May 03 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: Working around #Qt 4.7.2 bugs in the CSSU http://is.gd/GNY2yP #maemo #N900 | May 03 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Pentru profesori, studenți și elevi http://is.gd/5VLsce #arad !informaticalacastel #linux #gnu #software #romania #dinromania | May 03 20:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Committee to Protect Journalists' @danny_at_cpj publishes review of net censorship in "10 Tools of Online Oppressors": https://eff.org/r.546 | May 03 20:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Connected @th3k4ty's place to NFC HQ. :) !Miners | May 03 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @mageia #Mageia will be at #LinuxTag in Berlin from May 11th to 14th http://bit.ly/jUQgMo | May 03 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @dbd Apology Not Accepted; Sony Boycott Remains http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apology-not-accepted-sony-boycott-remains #NODRM !fs ... | May 03 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @dbd Apology Not Accepted; Sony Boycott Remains http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apology-not-accepted-sony-boycott-remains #NODRM | May 03 20:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Syria and the Day of Rage that didn't happen http://alturl.com/9ihfh | May 03 20:41 | |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: are you recording the episode with jono_ in it now or something? | May 03 20:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ^ | May 03 20:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 Canada's Day of Rage didn't happen either !elxn41 | May 03 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @xenijardin Why? RT @Clayfoot: @BoingBoing.net is now blacklisted: "deemed an unacceptable risk to Air Force Networks." !freespeech #NOT | May 03 20:46 | |
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| jono_ | sebsebseb, just finished | May 03 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Nearly finished !listening to !Techbytes Episode 37. Soon they will have an episode online with @jonobacon as a guest by the way! | May 03 20:47 | |
| _Goblin | jono: cheers mate. Great stuff.....thanks for your time.... | May 03 20:48 |
| jono_ | _Goblin, thanks! | May 03 20:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's DEF CON Contest returns! Help defend Coders’ Rights and win a Vegas prize pack! https://eff.org/r.247 | May 03 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Back to Barca video stream. | May 03 20:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4: #gPodder 2.15 "Night of Desirable Objects" released - http://gpodder.org/ - http://blog.gpodder.org/ #N900 #Maemo | May 03 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 246 dents! | May 03 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Eben #Moglen Explains Why #Software #Patents Should Not Exist http://is.gd/irEY5B #ip #swpats #redhat #free #gnu #linux | May 03 20:51 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: thanks so much, that was lovely! | May 03 20:51 |
| schestowitz | got it all recorded OK, tested to verify | May 03 20:52 |
| schestowitz | my volume was quite low, but not too low (mine as in my end only) | May 03 20:52 |
| jono | schestowitz :-) | May 03 20:52 |
| sebsebseb | Hmm I wonder why my other dent about the episode didn't show here | May 03 20:53 |
| Ender_nothome | jono - what's your opinion of bacon? | May 03 20:53 |
| jono | Ender_nothome, love it :-) | May 03 20:54 |
| Ender_nothome | :D | May 03 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | The episode of !Techbytes with @jonobacon as a guest that will be online pretty soon will be interesting! !Ubuntu !Linux !lo | May 03 20:54 |
| Ender_nothome | do you like back bacon? | May 03 20:54 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@ppp-69-215-11-103.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) has joined #techrights | May 03 20:55 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok uploading that episode yet? | May 03 20:55 |
| Ender_nothome | hes adding his subliminal track | May 03 20:55 |
| Ender_nothome | ;) | May 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz loves Satan | May 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | hi master is Satan | May 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | he will give you 666 | May 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | in a toolshed, somethin something, sad Satan | May 03 20:56 |
| Ender_nothome | nah I wasn't thinking Satan | May 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 20:56 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 20:56 |
| Ender_nothome | secret hidden FOSS messages | May 03 20:56 |
| MinceR | so FOSS is communist but not Satan? :> | May 03 20:57 |
| *MinceR is relieved | May 03 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.5-libre binaries for !gnewsense/mipsel !yeeloong now available | May 03 20:57 | |
| Ender_nothome | open source isn't communist | May 03 20:57 |
| MinceR | good to know :> | May 03 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's unAmerican, like buttsecks | May 03 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | and brown people | May 03 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 03 20:58 |
| MinceR | unAmerican means communist, doesn't it? | May 03 20:59 |
| Ender_nothome | nah | May 03 21:00 |
| Ender_nothome | just stuff thats in the communist manifesto | May 03 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | it can mean ZOMG a newly married interracial gay couple!!!! GET THE SHOTGUN CLEETUS!!!! | May 03 21:00 |
| sebsebseb | jono: remember to mention the audio cast in ustream tommorow :) | May 03 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | just so you know | May 03 21:00 |
| sebsebseb | jono: well you are doing ustream as normal tomorow I assume | May 03 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: I posted 12 photos on Facebook in the album "APPNATION 2011" http://fb.me/WwtAMDrc | May 03 21:01 | |
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| MinceR | Ender_nothome: exactly which part of the communist manifesto mentions free software? | May 03 21:01 |
| Ender_nothome | Mincer - abolition of private property | May 03 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The part where Ballmer can't compete with it because Windows sucks and goes around threatening lawsuits instead | May 03 21:02 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: since when is free software "abolition of private property"? | May 03 21:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] checking out Gunmonkey Mines. Never been there before. !miners | May 03 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Trisquel is now officialy the distro of the P@M of Sartène, TKS to Mondoloni Antoine, Bucchini Dominique, Giaccobi Paul, and @aurele | May 03 21:02 | |
| Ender_nothome | when certain extremists carry on their war against all non free software | May 03 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The person writing the code "owns" it, they decide to give it out freely | May 03 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | so does that mean if I give MinceR a cookie, I'm a communist? | May 03 21:03 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: you're making less sense than before, which is no small feat | May 03 21:03 |
| Ender_nothome | it should be optional | May 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | jono: it was interesting from many angles, both personal and professional | May 03 21:03 |
| Ender_nothome | im not making less sense | May 03 21:03 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yes. real merkin capitalists have to cheat that cookie out of your mouth! | May 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Sorry I interrupted you a bit in the bits about Microsoft, I just heard things that get me maligned sometimes due to misinformation about how I approach the subject | May 03 21:04 |
| Ender_nothome | mincer - whats an anti-capitalist? | May 03 21:04 |
| Ender_nothome | a socialist or a communist | May 03 21:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] jTrim-Slice, compact Tegra2 Desktop, now released for $199 http://is.gd/AvdLGn #linux | May 03 21:04 | |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: someone who opposes capitalism | May 03 21:04 |
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| Ender_nothome | do you oppose the money system | May 03 21:05 |
| Ender_nothome | or just rich people | May 03 21:05 |
| MinceR | i don't | May 03 21:05 |
| MinceR | at least not yet | May 03 21:05 |
| MinceR | and i don't oppose rich people in general | May 03 21:05 |
| Ender_nothome | thats your problem | May 03 21:05 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: back....Im getting the file now.... | May 03 21:05 |
| Ender_nothome | I think money was a bad idea | May 03 21:05 |
| Ender_nothome | it allows a third party to take your labour | May 03 21:06 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: sorry I missed your messages..... | May 03 21:06 |
| MinceR | and so you go around smearing people with being communist | May 03 21:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: being rich is not a bad thing | May 03 21:06 |
| MinceR | yes, this makes a lot of sense | May 03 21:06 |
| schestowitz | How one becomes rich matters | May 03 21:06 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: exactly | May 03 21:06 |
| schestowitz | And what one does with wealth matters | May 03 21:06 |
| Ender_nothome | mincer, communist - socialist or globalist | May 03 21:06 |
| MinceR | that too | May 03 21:06 |
| Ender_nothome | depending on what the person does | May 03 21:06 |
| schestowitz | case of point: corruption for dollars, dollars for lobbying, etc. | May 03 21:06 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: so, do you have a fixation on Imaginary Property? | May 03 21:07 |
| schestowitz | the problem is, the way I see it, a lot of bad people become rich in the West and smart ambitious people don't | May 03 21:07 |
| _Goblin | I am wealthy....I have a happy family and I don't owe money to anyone....thats good enough for me. | May 03 21:07 |
| MinceR | i'm not rich enough | May 03 21:07 |
| cubezzz | if you think you are happy... | May 03 21:07 |
| Ender_nothome | Mincer - im fixated on the idea of getting paid for doing work | May 03 21:07 |
| cubezzz | then you are :) | May 03 21:07 |
| MinceR | i can't adequately defend my freedom | May 03 21:07 |
| schestowitz | A lot of good scientists live in poverty while those who stab them in the back (and that's all they are capable of doing, not being scientists) become rich at the expense | May 03 21:07 |
| Ender_nothome | doesnt have to be money | May 03 21:08 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: and what has that have to do with badmouthing free software? | May 03 21:08 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: indeed | May 03 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | theres a correlation between free software extremists and communists | May 03 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | im not talking about normal free software advocates | May 03 21:08 |
| schestowitz | examples? | May 03 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Names? | May 03 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | just extremists | May 03 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | twitter is an example | May 03 21:08 |
| Ender_nothome | gnufreex | May 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | You must be thinking of a stereotypical hypothetical person | May 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | twitter a communist?LOL! | May 03 21:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @fsf:Apology Not Accepted; Sony Boycott Remains http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apology-not-accepted-sony-boycott-remains #NODRM #fs ... | May 03 21:09 | |
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| Ender_nothome | you should've seen the arguments I've had with twitter | May 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's why he lives like a typical American family... those Americans.. such communists | May 03 21:09 |
| Ender_nothome | he promoted so many ideas from the communist manifesto | May 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | /sarcasm | May 03 21:09 |
| MinceR | funny how the generalizations turn into personal attacks when the matter is pressed | May 03 21:09 |
| GoForbes28 | you reaalize that the communist manifesto is just a guideline right? | May 03 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | look | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | "herp derp all free software is communism" -> "only the extremists are communist, for example: ..." | May 03 21:10 |
| GoForbes28 | It's like taking everything in the bible literally | May 03 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | can we just skip directly to hitler comparisons? | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:10 |
| Ender_nothome | its a guideline born from the mind of globalists | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | i think we're heading towards stalin comparisons | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | (not that there's that much of a difference, but i doubt he cares) | May 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | correlations not causations | May 03 21:10 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender is mentioned in Mein Comp | May 03 21:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | in soviet russia, you're STILL wrong | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | rotfl | May 03 21:10 |
| Ender_nothome | that's your opinion | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | It's like those people who also convince themselves they did something out of choice when in fact they did it cause they failed at something else | May 03 21:11 |
| GoForbes28 | man I can't spell these past days | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Or people who think FOSS drives people to communism | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Or vice versa | May 03 21:11 |
| Ender_nothome | an irc chat isn't going to sway what i've learned from years of research | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | When in fact there is no causality | May 03 21:11 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: then guess what | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Brad like football, so he is a bad student at school | May 03 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I had sex with everybody's mothers | May 03 21:11 |
| GoForbes28 | Mein Kampf, ah close enough | May 03 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | out | May 03 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | of choice. | May 03 21:11 |
| Ender_nothome | no I think FLOSS attracts extemists just like any group | May 03 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Or: Brad sucks at thinking, so he plays football | May 03 21:12 |
| MinceR | where "research" means "reading anti-free software rants by m$ cultists" | May 03 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | It's actually just Free software | May 03 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Open-source misses the point | May 03 21:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: bullshit | May 03 21:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | "research" means "watching porn" | May 03 21:12 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | everybody knows that | May 03 21:12 |
| MinceR | or perhaps "research" means "chatting with wrongy" | May 03 21:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: research=searcjh | May 03 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | I have lots of researchs | May 03 21:12 |
| schestowitz | research is knowing how to remove "re" and drool over Googie | May 03 21:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously though | May 03 21:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | guess what I do on a daily basis | May 03 21:13 |
| Ender_nothome | mincer - research means reading stuff that has nothing to do with this low level stuff | May 03 21:13 |
| cubezzz | research told me to switch to Plan 9 | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | take a guess | May 03 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | Cloud 9? | May 03 21:13 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: perhaps there's a reskinned Google called "reGoogle, the reSearch engine" | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | I write FOSS. Daily. | May 03 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Google Scholar | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | And guess what? | May 03 21:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC's mayor was researching nakes people | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | Not only is my dick two feet long | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | But I do not give a fuck what people say, think, or do. | May 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMGPENIS!!!!1111 | May 03 21:13 |
| schestowitz | And he got caught researching it while also researching his anatomy in his office | May 03 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | If Microsoft wants to play their bullshit game, let them | May 03 21:14 |
| Ender_nothome | I research conspiracies and I know how infiltrated the world is | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: LOL | May 03 21:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | Real people living in the real world simply _do not give a fuck_ | May 03 21:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I can't take you guys anywhere!! | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Google SCOlar | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Jack SCOfreund | May 03 21:14 |
| GoForbes28 | Google Scoliar? | May 03 21:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | There. | May 03 21:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said it. | May 03 21:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | People. Do not. Give. A Fuck. | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: Scalia | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: Scaliar | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they would once some bullshit scheme for world domination like Palladium succeeds | May 03 21:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | People are in an eternal state of giving of no fucks. | May 03 21:14 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: SCOliar... true dat | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | but it would be too late by then | May 03 21:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I SCOff at you | May 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | so far we dodged the bullets | May 03 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Not one fuck was given this day. | May 03 21:15 |
| MinceR | and m$ is bleeding out | May 03 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, Roy is cool and all | May 03 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | but its largely a waste of time | May 03 21:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Have you seen the shape Roy's in? | May 03 21:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | if Roy wants to beat Microsoft, hes going to put his dick to the grindstone and start banging out code like no tommorow. | May 03 21:15 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: the IT industry is not a waste of time | May 03 21:15 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't insult him or he'll run across the continent and beat you up. | May 03 21:15 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: defending it from threats is, therefore not a waste of time either | May 03 21:15 |
| *schestowitz goes to desktop 8 to code for a while | May 03 21:16 | |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: calling threats out is part of that. | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: microsoft is not a threat to anyone but to themselves | May 03 21:16 |
| GoForbes28 | !me think schestowitz is a wuse right now, | May 03 21:16 |
| GoForbes28 | well that failed | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | the day I stopped using windows was the day they lost | May 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz is a closet MonoDevelop user | May 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I just know it | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know when that was? | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | OVER A DECADE AGO. | May 03 21:16 |
| Ender_nothome | Diablo-D3 - +1 | May 03 21:16 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: banging code out is not going to help if they use patent law to take all your code for themselves | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I didnt do it over "freedom" | May 03 21:16 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, we still want to be able to buy laptops and stuff without an OS | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I didnt do it over any other bs reason | May 03 21:16 |
| cubezzz | I think people care about that | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I did it because I had work to do. | May 03 21:16 |
| GoForbes28 | AKA a bs reason | May 03 21:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they cant sue everyone. | May 03 21:17 |
| cubezzz | we care about choices | May 03 21:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like a torrent tracker | May 03 21:17 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: moving to GNU/Linux was just the beginning of the road for me | May 03 21:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | stop one, 1000 more prop up | May 03 21:17 |
| GoForbes28 | Kill ED, get 2 more | May 03 21:17 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they can sue everyone who matters | May 03 21:17 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: for example, companies who dare make too much money | May 03 21:17 |
| Ender_nothome | you guys call me the wacko conspiracy theorist | May 03 21:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slice, compact Tegra2 Desktop, now released for $199 http://is.gd/AvdLGn #gnu #linux #arm | May 03 21:17 | |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: We must make everyone matter | May 03 21:17 |
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| MinceR | GoForbes28: indeed | May 03 21:18 |
| Ender_nothome | yet I make similar claims regarding world events and orgs | May 03 21:18 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they can also subvert governments -- to some extent they already have | May 03 21:18 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: What, corporations are often corrupt due to the profit motive | May 03 21:18 |
| GoForbes28 | this is common sense | May 03 21:18 |
| Ender_nothome | the biggest corps are all owned by the same people | May 03 21:18 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: we're not the ones saying we should dump as much CO2 into the atmosphere as we feel like | May 03 21:18 |
| Ender_nothome | dont listen to me, look it up | May 03 21:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: let them tey | May 03 21:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | *try | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: we're not the ones saying the movement that's saving the technology of this planet from some major threats is just a communist plot | May 03 21:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cant make people use windows | May 03 21:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Technically, we are reading you Ender | May 03 21:19 |
| Ender_nothome | Mincer - we put such a small percentage compared to the ocean its really laughable how retardedly stupid and gullible you are | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they can | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: they do so routinely | May 03 21:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, no, they _cant_ | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: for example, via PC sales and OEM deals | May 03 21:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I dont buy computers. | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: i see your "sound" reasoning | May 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | "herp derp u stupid" | May 03 21:20 |
| Ender_nothome | Mincer - you trust the media | May 03 21:20 |
| _Goblin | I blame aliens.......that Area 51...the face on Mars and Bill Gates. | May 03 21:20 |
| Ender_nothome | that takes a special kind of stupidity | May 03 21:20 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: depends on how you define "media" | May 03 21:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously though | May 03 21:20 |
| MinceR | even IRC is a part of it now :> | May 03 21:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | if bill gates wants to win | May 03 21:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | he can hire me | May 03 21:20 |
| GoForbes28 | I blame Einstein's brain, cutting it apart, who know what gases were released? | May 03 21:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | so its clear he doesnt even want to win. | May 03 21:20 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: see, i'm reading what you're writing but i don't take it without critique | May 03 21:20 |
| _Goblin | I'll go with the aliens....at least they wont try to push Microsoft products on me.... | May 03 21:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Slice, compact Tegra2 Desktop, now released for $199 http://is.gd/AvdLGn !gnu !linux !arm | May 03 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Minecraft #Screenshot NYBill's Gunmonkey Mines http://outl.ws/0q !miners @nybill | May 03 21:21 | |
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| Ender_nothome | I define media as media corporations, not in a form of communication | May 03 21:21 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: and who said i had to rely on them? | May 03 21:21 |
| Ender_nothome | tv, movies, news | May 03 21:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Diablo-D3 we can blame small minded consumers in the 80s for the Windows addiction | May 03 21:21 |
| MinceR | over here that's often called "mass communication" anyway | May 03 21:21 |
| Ender_nothome | where did you get information about c02 being bad | May 03 21:21 |
| cubezzz | in the 80's we didn't use windows | May 03 21:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: I watch CM reviews and SFDebris, and maybe some Top Gear | May 03 21:21 |
| MinceR | from many places | May 03 21:21 |
| Ender_nothome | im sure you've never run a scientific experiment in that area on your own | May 03 21:21 |
| MinceR | have you? | May 03 21:22 |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz '89 | May 03 21:22 |
| Ender_nothome | no | May 03 21:22 |
| _Goblin | Ender_nothome: I actually do see your point....but then the question would be, where did you get the info that co2 wasnt? | May 03 21:22 |
| MinceR | so why are you badmouthing me? | May 03 21:22 |
| Ender_nothome | thats why I can't know for sure they are correct | May 03 21:22 |
| GoForbes28 | duh-duh-dumm | May 03 21:22 |
| cubezzz | in 1989 I used amigados and Unix System V | May 03 21:22 |
| MinceR | btw, there's a pretty good experiment on what CO2 does: it's called Venus | May 03 21:22 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/05/attachmate-lays-off-mono-emplo.html | May 03 21:22 |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: Exactly | May 03 21:23 |
| _Goblin | MinceR: haven't been there yet.....not good for a holiday then? | May 03 21:23 |
| cubezzz | anyways, call me when the OEM's offer some choices | May 03 21:23 |
| schestowitz | fin. | May 03 21:23 |
| schestowitz | [21:16] <DaemonFC> schestowitz is a closet MonoDevelop user | May 03 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Haha | May 03 21:23 |
| Ender_nothome | I guess we also went back in time and killed the dinosaurs with the c02 too | May 03 21:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Besides Ender, we have two options and two outcomes | May 03 21:23 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: not quite | May 03 21:23 |
| Ender_nothome | and neanderthallers | May 03 21:23 |
| GoForbes28 | A) Do something, global warming is fake | May 03 21:23 |
| GoForbes28 | b) Do nothing, global warming is fake | May 03 21:23 |
| GoForbes28 | c) Do nothing, global warming is real | May 03 21:24 |
| Ender_nothome | option A costs me money | May 03 21:24 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: your knowledge shows when you call CO2 "c02" | May 03 21:24 |
| GoForbes28 | d) Do something, global warming is real | May 03 21:24 |
| MinceR | O stands for Oxygen there | May 03 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Ender_nothome, It's quite simple really, Dick and Bush sent all the carbon back in time so they could sell it to us all over again | May 03 21:24 |
| _Goblin | I tend to look at it like this.....global warming myth? Don't know, but I will still recycle and do my bit. If I'm wrong, so what, if its right then I'm helping. | May 03 21:24 |
| MinceR | the ozone hole must be a myth too | May 03 21:24 |
| Ender_nothome | I still recycle and I take public transportation | May 03 21:25 |
| Ender_nothome | I don't blame humans for it if its real | May 03 21:25 |
| Ender_nothome | the ocean outputs a lot more co2 than we do | May 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Dick and Bush day not to worry about that | May 03 21:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Let me finish | May 03 21:25 |
| MinceR | i'm happy for you and imma let you finish, but... | May 03 21:25 |
| GoForbes28 | If we do something, we will survive in the future | May 03 21:25 |
| Ender_nothome | the only humans I WOULD blame, are the elite families who plan to profit on carbon taxes | May 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | *say | May 03 21:25 |
| Ender_nothome | such as Al Gore, the royal family, the world bank, the IMF | May 03 21:25 |
| GoForbes28 | If we do nothing, the is a large chance we won't | May 03 21:26 |
| Ender_nothome | many other groups | May 03 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Minecraft #Screenshot Chimps Live Underground http://outl.ws/0r !miners @nybill | May 03 21:26 | |
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| _Goblin | Ender_nothome: that may be true (I don't know) however surely us adding to it can't be good...and re taxes, there will always be something to tax..... | May 03 21:26 |
| Ender_nothome | the WWF made profits selling carbon credits to india, which didn't reduce pollution | May 03 21:26 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Don't mention taxes to him TIm | May 03 21:26 |
| MinceR | they'll always tax as much as they think they can get away with | May 03 21:26 |
| GoForbes28 | Taxing works in economic terms if you want to stop people from doing a certain action | May 03 21:26 |
| Ender_nothome | I see the entire environmental movement as one big money grab | May 03 21:26 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: carbon credits are not the only method they're trying though | May 03 21:26 |
| GoForbes28 | They're called Pigovian taxes | May 03 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Bush said we were going to colonize the moon in one of his speeches, before NASA was gutted and we started paying the Russians to send our astronauts to the ISS | May 03 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Just Dick and Bush, on the moon, living in their Halliburton pods as the Earth goes to hell and becomes uninhabitable | May 03 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | they'll pack some spare hearts for Dick | May 03 21:27 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:27 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Or they'll live on ISS and end up blowing it up | May 03 21:27 |
| _Goblin | Ender_nothome: if thats right, I fail to see the impact on my life, infact quite the reverse through recycling collections I get more rubbish collections and my council tax has not increased. | May 03 21:27 |
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| GoForbes28 | darn | May 03 21:28 |
| MinceR | i knew truth hurts, but i didn't know it would shatter network connections | May 03 21:28 |
| _Goblin | infact.....I think in this "recycle now" environment....Im actually better off. | May 03 21:28 |
| GoForbes28 | he may have gone home, by which time he'll be ender2070 again | May 03 21:28 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: I go a step further and reuse as much as possible | May 03 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's just like Noahs ark, only this time they'll repopulate the Earth with Dickbush hybrids that have been genetically engineered so it's not gay or anything | May 03 21:28 |
| GoForbes28 | for example, paper with stuff printed on one side | May 03 21:29 |
| _Goblin | the only thing I hate about this push for green is the energy saving lightbulbs...they give off an awful glow and look like they belong in a subway. | May 03 21:29 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Sacrifice... | May 03 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Fixed my !gnome 3 problem: I had set the WINDOW_MANAGER variable to compiz | May 03 21:29 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: oh, it _is_ gay | May 03 21:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Don't worry trashbird, I bet another will pop up soon enough | May 03 21:29 |
| cubezzz | well generally you need to reclaim metals | May 03 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I for one welcome Earth's new Dickbush master race | May 03 21:29 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | May 03 21:30 |
| GoForbes28 | How do they end up propagating? | May 03 21:30 |
| MinceR | cloning | May 03 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Halliburton incubators | May 03 21:30 |
| MinceR | parthenogenesis | May 03 21:30 |
| MinceR | (and it's holy!) | May 03 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Now !listening to: Karaoke Queen by Catatonia | May 03 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Construction cliff work 'not for the faint-hearted' http://is.gd/c1RzRU ye Gods, no way in hell I'd be doing that | May 03 21:31 | |
| GoForbes28 | Star Trek plot device? | May 03 21:31 |
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| Ender_nothome | feel free to colour me crazy | May 03 21:32 |
| Ender_nothome | I've done the research and I'm on a different level | May 03 21:32 |
| GoForbes28 | That's an awesome colour, | May 03 21:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This Arabic match commentary does not impart any information but makes for more excitement. | May 03 21:32 | |
| DaemonFC | The Halliburton Genesdick Mark IV will terraform the ruined Earth and seed it with Dickbush clones, in male and female form | May 03 21:32 |
| Ender_nothome | daemonfc | May 03 21:33 |
| Ender_nothome | poor guy | May 03 21:33 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: you've done all the coloring, there's nothing left for us to do | May 03 21:33 |
| Ender_nothome | colour | May 03 21:34 |
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| MinceR | feel free to waste the bits like that :> | May 03 21:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Sorry Ender, but comments about a different level suggest unwarranted self-importance | May 03 21:34 |
| Ender_nothome | unless you like the 'merican' spelling | May 03 21:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: It doesn't really matter in the long run | May 03 21:34 |
| MinceR | is the spelling from Airstrip One any better? | May 03 21:34 |
| Ender_nothome | no it means nobody would understand what i'm talking about | May 03 21:35 |
| GoForbes28 | There is no correct version, it's all perception | May 03 21:35 |
| Ender_nothome | without doing the same research | May 03 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR is a nipple ring wielding turrist, I smelled the matches he was trying to light his shoe with! | May 03 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | quick, after him!!! | May 03 21:35 |
| GoForbes28 | Exactly, unwarranted self-importance | May 03 21:35 |
| *MinceR assaults DaemonFC with a large bottle of shampoo | May 03 21:35 | |
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| MinceR | your RapeyScan didn't see this one coming, did it? | May 03 21:35 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, you're Hungarian, you don't have RapeyScan | May 03 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | you're screwed MinceR , I packed duct tape just like the DHS told me to! I survived your shampoo! | May 03 21:36 |
| MinceR | only if i go to yankeestan | May 03 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | MUAHAHAHAAAA!!!! | May 03 21:36 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 21:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Yankeestan, I like that | May 03 21:36 |
| MinceR | i stopped calling them Jesusland after i saw what happened in poland and hungary | May 03 21:36 |
| Ender_nothome | goforbes28 - this isn't the channel for educating people thats my mistake. people here already have their mind set upon an ideology. | May 03 21:37 |
| cubezzz | I don't even think the Shack sold windows in the early 1990's, never mind 80's | May 03 21:37 |
| Ender_nothome | nothing may change that | May 03 21:37 |
| *DaemonFC goes after MinceR with some toothpaste and baby formula | May 03 21:37 | |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: No, you just do a poor job in presenting your case | May 03 21:37 |
| cubezzz | but that's when I started to see it creep up in other places | May 03 21:37 |
| MinceR | yes, we have the "not being an unhinged McCarthyist" burned right into our genes | May 03 21:37 |
| MinceR | nothing to do here | May 03 21:37 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: not the baby formula! | May 03 21:37 |
| GoForbes28 | There is a difference between education and forced lecturing | May 03 21:38 |
| GoForbes28 | Along with having a preconception that we are all sheep | May 03 21:38 |
| GoForbes28 | You, in fact, treated us as a lost cause before you even began | May 03 21:38 |
| Ender_nothome | based on behavior shown to me yesterday it would make you sheep | May 03 21:39 |
| Ender_nothome | voting | May 03 21:39 |
| GoForbes28 | See that's what I mean | May 03 21:39 |
| MinceR | and yet it makes you sheep instead! | May 03 21:39 |
| GoForbes28 | that's pontificating | May 03 21:39 |
| *MinceR uses the Seal of the Ovinomancer on Ender_nothome | May 03 21:39 | |
| MinceR | mwahahaha | May 03 21:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Go on this, reply to it even: http://identi.ca/conversation/70229300#notice-72591526 | May 03 21:39 |
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| sebsebseb | :) | May 03 21:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Sebsebseb: Jono techbytes is up right? | May 03 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: no don't think they have uploaded it just yet | May 03 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | I have already dented about it though :) | May 03 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: I am catching up on Techbytes, already listend to quite a bit today | May 03 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | I was listening 35 or something earlier, now on 38 | May 03 21:40 |
| GoForbes28 | Damn, I'm really far behind | May 03 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Very good the Man U game should be interesting. | May 03 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Barca awaiting either #Shalke04 or #ManUtd in the Champions League final as expected !football | May 03 21:41 | |
| Ender_nothome | meh | May 03 21:41 |
| GoForbes28 | Debian XFCE seems to lack Synaptic and Software Centre | May 03 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: well as _Goblin would say, don't need to listen to them all, may as well just do the latest | May 03 21:41 |
| GoForbes28 | Let's see if it has aptitude | May 03 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | right yeah, but even so, I do want to listen to all of them, even though a lot of the time, they babble on about a lot of stuff that to be honest, doesn't interest me that much, or is a repeate of stuff they have said planety of times before | May 03 21:42 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: you can probably just install synaptic | May 03 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: fair enough, unless it was a radio drama | May 03 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but also there are some very interesting chats, depends | May 03 21:42 |
| MinceR | sudo apt-get install synaptic | May 03 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I know MinceR | May 03 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm just taking the distro at face value | May 03 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | and _Goblin apparently likes this about me, nice honest feedback postive and negative :D | May 03 21:42 |
| MinceR | ic | May 03 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | very blunt as he would say | May 03 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | sure, I *could* fix the problem, but where's the fun in that? | May 03 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Maybe you and I should be guests on the same show | May 03 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: I am already down as being a guest | May 03 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | that is, the same date | May 03 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | seb*3: As am I | May 03 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: ,but well got to get a microphone | May 03 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | and then set up with Skype and then yep I can be on it | May 03 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | you do? | May 03 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | yep I don't use Skype at all right now | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | or microphones | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | or web cams :) | May 03 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | I think Roy is switching to Sip communicator nowadays | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: well Skype and SIP | May 03 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @osamak: Happy birthday to Nina Paley: http://ur1.ca/42p30 Share her works as a present #cc #fc | May 03 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dbd: Apology Not Accepted; Sony Boycott Remains http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apology-not-accepted-sony-boycott-remains #NODRM | May 03 21:44 | |
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| sebsebseb | not everyoen can just do SIP either | May 03 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | I would like him to try PSI+ too | May 03 21:44 |
| Ender_nothome | the web cams and mics could be listening in on you | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | Skype will be easiser for a lot of guets I guess | May 03 21:44 |
| MinceR | skype being a botnet, it's indeed better to use SIP instead | May 03 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | or PSI+\ | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: the web cams, may get hijacked by malware, and then they spy on you, yeah | May 03 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | PSI+ uses jabber | May 03 21:44 |
| Ender_nothome | you use windows? | May 03 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | Ender_nothome: hardly ever | May 03 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but even on other OS's that could happen | May 03 21:45 |
| Ender_nothome | has it? | May 03 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | Desktop Linux as my main OS since 2003 :) | May 03 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | uh 2003/2004 | May 03 21:45 |
| GoForbes28 | If it is MSN, yeah probably Ender | May 03 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | 2004/2003 | May 03 21:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Skype, most definitely | May 03 21:45 |
| Ender_nothome | the MSN protocol doesnt force your FLOSS msn app to record from your webcam | May 03 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora Core 2 my first distro, the one I just installed, never tried a distro before, seen screenshtos of Linux distro's on a forum, and someone told me about stuff, and I coudn't use online since... and I have said this story many times online already | May 03 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: in the same show? | May 03 21:46 |
| Ender_nothome | I've used Linux since redhat 5.2 | May 03 21:46 |
| Ender_nothome | 1999 ish | May 03 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: i'll be going on to talk about my expereince with Linux distro's I guess, and how I used to help loads of people online with Ubuntu I guess, and how now I am rather interested in Mageia, and am planning on donig some proper community stuff for it :) | May 03 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | and how I may try out Ubuntu at times still and stuff like that | May 03 21:47 |
| GoForbes28 | yep, aptitude works mincer | May 03 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: then also after me hopefuly soon after I guess it will be. will get a proper Mageia founder to chat on it as a guest :) | May 03 21:47 |
| Ender_nothome | I still use Fedora | May 03 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: and well none of this untill June probably | May 03 21:47 |
| Ender_nothome | it still owns | May 03 21:47 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: I'll probably keep my mouth shut for most of it | May 03 21:47 |
| Ender_nothome | KVM works very nicely too with it | May 03 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: makes sense to do it after the releease of Mageia 1 really, which is meant to be on June 1st, unless they delay it | May 03 21:48 |
| GoForbes28 | Fedora has proprietary blobs, tisk tisk | May 03 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: you want to be on the same show with me? chatting about things? together? | May 03 21:48 |
| Ender_nothome | GoForbes28 - I install even more | May 03 21:48 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Is there something about that that is unappealing? | May 03 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: as far as I know schestowitz or possbily even _Goblin they interview people seperatly, and add it to the show | May 03 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | of course with jono maybe they did something differnet? | May 03 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | yeah jono did you go on the show properly, and be there with the others, and chat with them about things or? | May 03 21:49 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm going by how Gordon is featured on the show | May 03 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: ah ha you want to be properly featured on the show like that | May 03 21:49 |
| Ender_nothome | GoForbes28 - the only way the government can spy on me in linux is via my graphics drivers | May 03 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: to be honest, Gordon probably woudn't really want me on the show like that not even for one episode, because he doesn't like me much at all | May 03 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: for him, even me being interviewed may be bad enough | May 03 21:50 |
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| sebsebseb | he thinks I am annoying it seems, oh well | May 03 21:50 |
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| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: anyway as for this guy, that's what I am suggesting, that maybe he can come on the show like Gordon is. http://identi.ca/conversation/70229300#notice-72591526 | May 03 21:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Interview with Linus Torvalds (LinuxFR) http://lwn.net/Articles/441207/rss | May 03 21:51 | |
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| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Shame, I get the impression he likes me | May 03 21:51 |
| sebsebseb | he got annoyed with me high lighting him a lot and so on | May 03 21:51 |
| GoForbes28 | mincer: Aptitude is very clunky | May 03 21:51 |
| MinceR | i know | May 03 21:51 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Possible_TechBytes_Guests | May 03 21:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] OMG, TV is reporting that USAma bin Laden is dead! RT, quick! :-) | May 03 21:52 | |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: Going on together to chat about what? Also I don't really know you that well online yet. | May 03 21:52 |
| sebsebseb | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Possible_TechBytes_Guests not sure who most of those people are, but the ones I do well :) | May 03 21:53 |
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| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Talk about whatever | May 03 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] so, Osama didn't even have an AK-47 to hand over. it really was a political murder mission. way to promote human rights, USAma! | May 03 21:54 | |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: it would be good if more people came on the show properly, like they did with Gordon and also when he was a guest | May 03 21:54 |
| Ender_nothome | GoForbes28 - you know harper will help nafta yet you dont belive in the world government conspiracy | May 03 21:54 |
| Ender_nothome | so weird | May 03 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | I guess they done the same for jono as well, well that should be uploaded soon I guess | May 03 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: remember they had a whole Mint speical with Gordon, chatting through most of it or whatever | May 03 21:55 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm a centrist conspiracy theorist :P | May 03 21:55 |
| Ender_nothome | :D | May 03 21:55 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: I had to install the GTK front-end for aptitude; such a thing exists now | May 03 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x1101 @bkuhn yes, but youre the #FS version of a Monk. | May 03 21:56 | |
| MinceR | ic | May 03 21:56 |
| GoForbes28 | still smaller than synaptic | May 03 21:56 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: times change, go back two years or so ago, and I would have been like, doing something proper for opensource/freesoftware that isn't just IRC support and stuff like that? uh probably not | May 03 21:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but now well times have changed, and I want to be something more proper in opensource/freesoftware :) community stuff though | May 03 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NewYorker.com, Lego.com, Dropbox, Techcrunch, Ted.com, Intuit's Mint.com among 2011 Webby winners: http://bit.ly/mFa6dU | May 03 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: RT @x1101 @bkuhn yes, but youre the #FS version of a Monk. | May 03 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana He's not only a monk, he also is Monk. :D @bkuhn | May 03 21:57 | |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: The front-end is even worse!! | May 03 21:58 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: makes sense really Desktop Linux has been a big part of my life since 2004 | May 03 21:58 |
| GoForbes28 | makes sense indeed | May 03 21:59 |
| GoForbes28 | brb, have to pick up some stuff | May 03 21:59 |
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| Ender_nothome | DaemonFC - you're a 2 in 1 male | May 03 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mono Development Canned http://is.gd/Rb8Wj9 #novell #attachmsft #dotnet #development #csharp | May 03 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Mono Development Canned http://is.gd/Rb8Wj9 #swpats #api #novl | May 03 22:01 | |
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| Ender_nothome | Mono is dead? | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | unsure | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | they've fired some mono devs | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | they aren't telling how many | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | or how many are left | May 03 22:01 |
| MinceR | and of course novell2.0 could pick up where they left off | May 03 22:02 |
| Ender_nothome | interesting | May 03 22:02 |
| MinceR | but it might be dead already | May 03 22:02 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: "@kevie it would be great to have you on. @schestowitz and @openbytes follow your work in #identica" http://identi.ca/conversation/70229300#notice-72591526 | May 03 22:02 |
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| that's amusing. this ender guy keeps calling me a Communist ->Ender_nothome: you should've seen the arguments I've had with twitter ... Ender_nothome: he promoted so many ideas from the communist manifesto | May 03 22:02 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Oh you replied using the Techbytes account | May 03 22:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe he can go on properly like Gordon though not just as a guest? | May 03 22:03 |
| Ender_nothome | twitter - sorry, forgot in merica its 'progressive' or 'liberal' | May 03 22:04 |
| MinceR | what has "liberal" have to do with "communist" again? | May 03 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I mean he mentioend starting his own audio cast, which I assume will be about Tech, he also has a blog about stuff and yeah | May 03 22:04 |
| Ender_nothome | Mincer - find out | May 03 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: he has Linux distro expereince | May 03 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | he's Scottih like Gordon, two scotts could be something | May 03 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | see what I am getting at? | May 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The people talking about Communism have no idea what it is | May 03 22:05 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: hint: "not much" | May 03 22:05 |
| oh, now I see. I'm some kind of bad example that proves another bogus argument. don't tell my mom. -> (01:14:54 PM) Ender_nothome: theres a correlation between free software extremists and communists (01:15:02 PM) Ender_nothome: im not talking about normal free software advocates | May 03 22:05 | |
| Ender_nothome | hint: do some actual research | May 03 22:05 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: people talking about liberalism often have no idea what that is, either | May 03 22:05 |
| MinceR | Ender_nothome: hint: i already have | May 03 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | then you have reading comprehension issues | May 03 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | as evidenced by this chat | May 03 22:06 |
| MinceR | no, i have issues with being trolled by Ender_nothome | May 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There's two ends to the political spectrum here | May 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | you have the right, and the far right | May 03 22:06 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: or so they say | May 03 22:06 |
| Ender_nothome | mincer's definition of troll = anyone he doesnt agree with | May 03 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @goforbes28 had a chance to edit http://is.gd/aixiQp ? | May 03 22:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Windows is used to suppress activists - Techrights .::. Size~: 16.73 KB | May 03 22:07 |
| MinceR | wrong again | May 03 22:08 |
| Ender_nothome | this is almost the same as the left calling every right winger a facist | May 03 22:08 |
| what's with the strange stream of insults, Ender_nothome ? | May 03 22:08 | |
| MinceR | twitter: he's trolling again | May 03 22:08 |
| MinceR | perhaps bored | May 03 22:08 |
| MinceR | or perhaps Captain Dildo threatened him again | May 03 22:08 |
| is there anything in particular he's interested in? | May 03 22:08 | |
| Ender_nothome | are you suggesting Lefty tells me to talk about conspiracies? | May 03 22:08 |
| I feel like Lefty is in the room | May 03 22:09 | |
| or a bad parody of him | May 03 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] if murdering civilians in foreign lands is something to be celebrated, what's wrong with 9/11? | May 03 22:09 | |
| Ender_nothome | he made fun of me on his site for having said stuff about David Icke here | May 03 22:09 |
| Lefty? | May 03 22:09 | |
| Ender_nothome | hes not going to be telling me to promote conspiracy theories | May 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | he can't grap humour | May 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he's a vegetable | May 03 22:10 |
| schestowitz | We joked about crocodiles | May 03 22:10 |
| MinceR | maybe he just has the intellect of a vegetable | May 03 22:10 |
| schestowitz | IIRC he made it look like we subscribe to Icke's baloney about "reptilian" nonsense (Whatever he says about it, maybe warped out of context) | May 03 22:10 |
| MinceR | it must be a prerequisite for being a m$ apologist | May 03 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners server map now at 262144 tiles. | May 03 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @boycottnovell Thanks for all the good reporting over there at http://techrights.org/ | May 03 22:11 | |
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| I saw some global warming denial too | May 03 22:11 | |
| Ender_nothome | now I'm an M$ apologist | May 03 22:11 |
| odd stuff | May 03 22:11 | |
| MinceR | twitter: global warming denial is one of Troll2070's favorite topics | May 03 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG SHILL SHILL!!!11111one | May 03 22:11 |
| Ender_nothome | denial = world used by people demonizing their opponent | May 03 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | the only "reptilian" I know about it a referral to part of our brains we inherit from the reptilian development phase of our genes... things like aggression instincts at the core part of our brains | May 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | So like I said, I don't know if things were taken out of context for him too | May 03 22:12 |
| there's that nifty mascot for Suse | May 03 22:12 | |
| schestowitz | But I know he talks some other alien nonsense | May 03 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Too Scientology-flavoured if you ask me... | May 03 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's actually quite cold here, unusual for May | May 03 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | lol you guys | May 03 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | I wish global warming would hurry up and get here | May 03 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | wearing a hoodie in May is just wrong | May 03 22:12 |
| Ender_nothome | yeah same here, its freezing out | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: VERY warn here | May 03 22:13 |
| got tornadoes FC? | May 03 22:13 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: When's the jono episode being uploaded by the way? | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | UK has had a VERY unusual summer-like April | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | And beginning of May (so far) | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | The chocolate companies here blame the weather for bad earnings | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 03 22:13 |
| MinceR | i wonder if florida being flooded will count as being "summer-like" :> | May 03 22:13 |
| Global warming visited Tuskalusa the other day | May 03 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | Heard it on the radio. They say hot weather depresses chocolate sales | May 03 22:13 |
| schestowitz | [22:12] <DaemonFC> I wish global warming would hurry up and get here | May 03 22:14 |
| Ender_nothome | giving the rich people more money will sure solve every environmental issue | May 03 22:14 |
| !google tornado news | May 03 22:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AccuWeather.com - Weather News | Historic Tornado Outbreak: 3 Days ... | http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/48503/historic-tornado-outbreak-3-da-1.asp | May 03 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Tornado News Headlines & Stories - 1stHeadlines | http://www.1stheadlines.com/tornado.htm | May 03 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Storm watch, Tornadoes, Thunderstorms, Weather News - weather.com | http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/ | May 03 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Massive Tornado Hits Alabama; Storms Leave Dozens Dead - ABC News | http://abcnews.go.com/US/massive-tornado-hits-alabama-storms-leave-16-dead/story%3Fid%3D13465028 | May 03 22:14 |
| schestowitz | LOL, unless you live in Florida or Sahara | May 03 22:14 |
| jono | sebsebseb, dude, chill out, it will be up when it is ready :-) | May 03 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well _Goblin isn't in #boycottnovell-social so i'll copy in here, altough I think _Goblin isn't even at his computer right now | May 03 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Anyone working on implementing #ostatus using #nodejs? | May 03 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] O aumento de preços na Worten graças à proposta de lei da cópia privada. Ui as impressoras... http://ur1.ca/42r2l | May 03 22:14 | |
| sebsebseb | jono: heh heh, yeah I know :) | May 03 22:14 |
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| dozens? it was more like 300 | May 03 22:14 | |
| schestowitz | Global warming might be nice for Norway in the short term, except in summer | May 03 22:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: actsaully a bit pointless, if he's afk anyway | May 03 22:14 |
| Norway is supposed to get colder as the Gulf stream shuts down. Sorry. | May 03 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: Tux Machines keeps going down (Texas) due to the weather | May 03 22:15 |
| ah | May 03 22:15 | |
| The American Northwest is getting nicer. | May 03 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | Not if you work for Ballmer | May 03 22:16 |
| schestowitz | !google msft down 4% | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Quality Stocks Twits - MSFT - Microsoft Corporation | http://www.qualitystockstwits.com/Stream.aspx%3FTicker%3DMSFT | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Yahoo! Message Boards - Microsoft Corporation - intel up msft down ... | http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_M/threadview%3Fm%3Dtm%26bn%3D12004%26tid%3D1704837%26mid%3D1704837%26tof%3D7%26off%3D1 | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - How to "Page Down" in MSFT Word w/ Apple keyboard? - MacRumors Forums | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D525913 | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - MSFT Shares Down 8% – Why I Don't Think it's Due to Announced Job ... | http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/01/msft-shares-down-8-why-i-dont-think-its-due-to-announced-job-cuts-or-profit-decline.html | May 03 22:16 |
| schestowitz | ^ after latest results | May 03 22:16 |
| that's good news for the north west | May 03 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | Somone should watch RIM jobs... to see if they take a mole from the vole | May 03 22:16 |
| schestowitz | !google RIM ballmer | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bingleberry: Ballmer announces surprise Microsoft-RIM deal; Bing ... | http://macdailynews.com/2011/05/03/ballmer-announces-surprise-microsoft-rim-deal-bing-to-be-default-search-in-blackberries/ | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ballmer surprises with Microsoft-RIM partnership - Computerworld | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216369/Ballmer_surprises_with_Microsoft_RIM_partnership%3FtaxonomyId%3D15 | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Ballmer Announces Big Partnership With Research In Motion | http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-ballmer-announces-big-partnership-with-research-in-motion-2011-5 | May 03 22:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Talks About RIM Acquisition ... | http://www.blackberrycool.com/2011/01/17/microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-talks-about-rim-acquisition/ | May 03 22:16 |
| that is a surprise | May 03 22:17 | |
| so much for RIM | May 03 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | Now all they need is an elop | May 03 22:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: see what MinceR has to say about Techbytes in #boycottnovell-social and _Goblin can check out the log or whatever, since he's not there | May 03 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Antelope mole from the vole | May 03 22:17 |
| schestowitz | And then RIM becomes a ZOO | May 03 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dealing with listener email. | May 03 22:17 | |
| schestowitz | Driven by primal instincts and loyalty to Father Vole | May 03 22:17 |
| I see my hometown police made some national and international news for themselves. http://www.newstatesman.com/north-america/2011/04/orleans-city-jail-police | May 03 22:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Statesman - No limits to the law in NoLa .::. Size~: 91.55 KB | May 03 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen Started working on Foursquare app for Maemo, Nelisquare http://bit.ly/nelisquareprev Should run fine on #MeeGo too #N900 | May 03 22:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nelisquare Preview Video | Substance of Code .::. Size~: 39.07 KB | May 03 22:19 |
| I'm not sure why people talk about the speed of Firefox on Windows like it was something to aim for | May 03 22:21 | |
| Real world Windows performance is always terrible, no matter what you run. | May 03 22:21 | |
| DaemonFC | This package ships the hack BSOD that shows the popular Blue Screens of Death from several OSes including BSD, Windows, Linux, Solaris, Apple and much more. | May 03 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | WARNING: This screensaver could be confused with a real BSOD and could lead an user to reboot the machine with consequences like data loss. | May 03 22:22 |
| *DaemonFC facepalms | May 03 22:22 | |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Love "Who stole my story?": http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2011/04/28/who-deleted-the-song-in-my-profile/ !dbd #NODRM | May 03 22:22 | |
| schestowitz | CPTN Jean Luc Piccard | May 03 22:22 |
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| It is nice to hear that more love and care for gnu/linux by the mozilla people but it should not come with praise for an OS that sucks. | May 03 22:22 | |
| MinceR | Locutus? | May 03 22:22 |
| schestowitz | mayeb Mozilla understands now who will stand by them | May 03 22:23 |
| schestowitz | People with brains and more principles | May 03 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | twitter, Firefox's OpenGL support really sucks | May 03 22:23 |
| so? | May 03 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | Not victims of AppGoo PR or people who think the Blue E is their only choice cause OEM says soi | May 03 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't even work well with good drivers | May 03 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | they clearly designed it around whatever Nvidia's nonfree driver does | May 03 22:23 |
| you mean nvidia, non free driver? | May 03 22:23 | |
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| schestowitz | who needs GL? | May 03 22:23 |
| oh | May 03 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | It's a browser | May 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | I say, leave my GPU alone :-) | May 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | kwin texturised the winodws, it's enough accel. for most people | May 03 22:24 |
| your window manager and windowing system should handle the calls, not the browser | May 03 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | I hate browsers that take too mucn power | May 03 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Like ActiveHack" | May 03 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | it Chrome is a power hog | May 03 22:25 |
| special code for various programs is a regression, I hope that's not what the Mozilla attention is aimed at | May 03 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | "No. I DON"T want you to write to files!" | May 03 22:25 |
| schestowitz | "stop playing music, damn it" | May 03 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Leave Chrome open and see how fast your laptop battery gets drained | May 03 22:25 |
| Konq and chrome work for me | May 03 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Don't resize my windows, I set up boundaries for you for a reason" | May 03 22:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=385&y=64&z=-267&zoom=-1 -- ROFL !Miners | May 03 22:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | chrome uses Konq code | May 03 22:26 |
| schestowitz | khtml bastardised by Apple | May 03 22:26 |
| Konq lets you turn window resizing off | May 03 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | you mean khtml that was made useful? | May 03 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 03 22:26 |
| oh, so chrome is like KDE 3.5 living on and on | May 03 22:26 | |
| cool | May 03 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | khtml is so damned slow | May 03 22:26 |
| too bad they got rid of vi motion controls | May 03 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | even when you're loading a page that's not that hardcore | May 03 22:26 |
| Midori has them | May 03 22:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Huge crafting table: http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=-64&y=64&z=-58&zoom=max !miners | May 03 22:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 03 22:27 |
| MinceR | i don't remember KDE 3.5 causing kernel panics :> | May 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | twitter, khtml doesn't support much HTML 5 | May 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | and it's really slow | May 03 22:28 |
| anyway, I got about three or four hours of battery with Chrome, Konq and several others open and running... that's about normal | May 03 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | and a lot of websites don't work right | May 03 22:28 |
| most websites don't work right for my konq because I turned off all scripting | May 03 22:28 | |
| Ender_nothome | I dont remember KDE 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 or 4.6 cause kernel panics | May 03 22:28 |
| Ender_nothome | perhaps debian is defective | May 03 22:28 |
| *Ender_nothome has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) | May 03 22:29 | |
| Daemon has a way or breaking hardware that is not typical. | May 03 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What is it with #RedHat and that military general guy? I hate the military. They kill people. | May 03 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New walkway connecting #NFC to @th3k4ty's place: http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=-324&y=64&z=170&zoom=-2 !miners | May 03 22:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 03 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | khtml just sucks | May 03 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's basically abandonware | May 03 22:29 |
| except for webkit and KDE 4, which rocks | May 03 22:30 | |
| MinceR | it's chromium/chrome that's defective | May 03 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | so every KDE distro that's not Fedora seems to have gotten rid of Konqueror | May 03 22:30 |
| *schestowitz facepalms @ DaemonFC | May 03 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC | or at least ships something you can use | May 03 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | like Firefox | May 03 22:30 |
| gotta go do some actual work | May 03 22:30 | |
| later | May 03 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: get this. So I spend 100 hours mimicking an implementation (from scratch) of this paper from IJCV (Springer-Verlag) and then it turns out I need their proprietary data to audiot and reproduce their experiment to check their claims are reproducible. And now they deny me access to this data! Amazing. Can't make it up... | May 03 22:30 |
| MinceR | o/ | May 03 22:30 |
| oh wait | May 03 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | will chat about it another day.. | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | nm | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | topic for future chit-chat | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | About Open Daya | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Open Access | May 03 22:31 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: so their experiment is not reproducible. bad for them | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Open Access has this video I watched last night... Lessig | May 03 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Mentiond this in the jono interview | May 03 22:31 |
| MinceR | perhaps you can publish about it :> | May 03 22:31 |
| that does sound like an interesting discussion, but I do have work to do. | May 03 22:31 | |
| later | May 03 22:31 | |
| *twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has left #techrights | May 03 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucGSOqbPiyk | May 03 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | [22:31] <MinceR> schestowitz: so their experiment is not reproducible. bad for them | May 03 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but it cannot be disproven | May 03 22:32 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: just like religion. :> | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Many cases in the past showed claims in papers that people assumed for long to be true and anvy-worthy | May 03 22:33 |
| MinceR | (well, some of religion can be disproven, but not all of it) | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | But later other people could not follow the same steps (plus tips from author) to get it independently | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | So then they get called out | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | It's EXTREMELY hard to do that | May 03 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Once it's published in peer-reviewed journals | May 03 22:34 |
| schestowitz | The burden of proof is on the team having to disprove | May 03 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Checking out what the other !Miners have build. | May 03 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Is The Obama Administration Putting Billions Of People At Risk With Patent Pressure From The USTR? - http://bit.ly/lXDlor you know... | May 03 22:34 | |
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| schestowitz | [22:33] <MinceR> schestowitz: just like religion. :> | May 03 22:34 |
| schestowitz | That can't be true! | May 03 22:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyOCjo4wU4I | May 03 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Watch it | May 03 22:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - proof AND evidence, accurate AND correct .::. Size~: 114.4 KB | May 03 22:35 |
| schestowitz | It's recent | May 03 22:35 |
| MinceR | atheism can't be proven. but it can be shown that the bible contradicts itself and therefore the god it describes doesn't exist as it's described. | May 03 22:40 |
| MinceR | or at least atheism can't be proven with the data we have access to currently | May 03 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | athiesm cant be proven? wtf. | May 03 22:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I either believe in God or I don't. | May 03 22:43 |
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| MinceR | i meant that the assertion that no gods exist can't be proven with current data | May 03 22:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | God existing is a nonsensical statement anyhow | May 03 22:43 |
| MinceR | i thought that was what they meant by it | May 03 22:43 |
| MinceR | how so? | May 03 22:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | how do you prove something exists when its outside of your temporal lightcone? | May 03 22:43 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 22:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just one of those things that, at the end of the day, doesnt matter. | May 03 22:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | its something religious fundies do to drag you down to their level | May 03 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR owes Jesus big time, if Jesus hadn't singlehandedly slain all the dinosaurs 5,000 years ago, there'd have been no hope for Adam and Eve | May 03 22:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | If God exists or not is immaterial to religion AND science. | May 03 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I mean, if you gotta be in the military, be all in..... | May 03 22:47 | |
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| Constantine | hello everyone | May 03 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why poor countries lead the world in #piracy - http://bit.ly/iMQHJH good summary of really important 400-page report released recently | May 03 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva I have 1 sticker on my laptop, the gnu sticker from fsf at the bottom right corner, to the side of the touchpad | May 03 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Kernel-Power has a new maintainer (Pali) and a new version (v47) has been released quick changelog http://is.gd/hC4s64 #N900 #Maemo | May 03 22:51 | |
| GoForbes28 | Well. the connies are off to a great start | May 03 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why poor countries lead the world in piracy | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 168.64 KB | May 03 22:51 |
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| MinceR | Diablo-D3: i know | May 03 22:51 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: and their god isn't even all that interesting | May 03 22:51 |
| GoForbes28 | the british columbia moratorium on giant, spill-prone boats is over | May 03 22:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, the real problem is | May 03 22:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | modern christianity is an attack on god | May 03 22:51 |
| Constantine | sorry to but in but Diablo aint that the truth now a days christianity is a farce | May 03 22:52 |
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| GoForbes28 | have you watched the onejesusonegod channel? | May 03 22:53 |
| GoForbes28 | it's hilarious | May 03 22:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | May 03 22:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | the problem with christianity is that they dont follow jesus | May 03 22:53 |
| MinceR | that's one of the problems with it, yes | May 03 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I was going to belong to a religion, I'd rather have one that promotes what jesus taught | May 03 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and guess what? | May 03 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Argh - my son just told me that someone called me yesterday. Of course it's too late in the business day for me to call them back today. | May 03 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Anti-Harper internet shield? Patience. I'm trying to do 15 things at once. Include write paid articles! | May 03 22:54 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the closest thing we'd have to a Jesus religion would be Anonymous. | May 03 22:54 |
| MinceR | how so? | May 03 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | Jesus was killed because he stuck it to the man. | May 03 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | He fought the system, and the system won | May 03 22:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | They killed him because he was erroding their power base using facts and common sense | May 03 22:55 |
| Constantine | not entirely he did change many peoples lives inderectly over the years | May 03 22:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Constantine: yes, but people in his name changed them back the other way | May 03 22:55 |
| Constantine | true | May 03 22:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | Jesus was a guy who could do the right fucking thing every fucking day without giving a shit about the consequences | May 03 22:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | The man had balls. | May 03 22:56 |
| Constantine | Got a wuestion what man now a days has the balls to do what he did | May 03 22:56 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: ic | May 03 22:57 |
| MinceR | to be fair, much of what he used wasn't "facts" | May 03 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] This wk's #linuxcon contest: where were u when u first discovered #linux? Post using #linuxcon and win free pass to event! Winner Monday! | May 03 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Don't worry, that was just a status update dent. I know you have work to do. :) I'm in no rush. | May 03 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Is it trute that the british columbia moratorium on giant, spill-prone boats is over? | May 03 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: In Canada, 623,332 votes means 24 seats in Parliament & 937,613 votes means 0 seats. #cdnpoli *needs* electoral reform | May 03 22:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: really, it was | May 03 22:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | You dont need to go to church for God to hear your prayers | May 03 22:58 |
| Constantine | all right until proven otherwise you can, but today our world is filled with so many pussies who cower and hide it's not even funny. | May 03 22:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | That one single concept alone should have destroyed large centralized churches everywhere | May 03 22:58 |
| MinceR | well, of course. if i pray, i can hear it. | May 03 22:58 |
| MinceR | i'm a god. :> | May 03 22:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | What he said was so dangerous that they founded the Catholic Church in his name to undo his work | May 03 22:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then blame one of his decipels as the founder | May 03 22:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] is !parabola for !yeeloong still X11-less, or is it just me failing to operate pacman properly? | May 03 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now THIS is what a proper general looks like, boys: http://halloweencostumes.costumestore.com/107700_01_Lg.jpg | May 03 22:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 03 22:59 |
| Constantine | this we can agree on, the church should be destroyed and rebuilt froim the foundations up. | May 03 22:59 |
| MinceR | no, it shouldn't be rebuilt | May 03 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72596322 http://identi.ca/notice/72598518 | May 03 23:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 21:14:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @techbytes I have to confess that I've not listened to the show yet, will take a listen, but I'd be happy to be a guest :) | May 03 23:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 21:50:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @kevie: Well I did tell @schestowitz and @openbytes to reply, and I do find it interesting that @schestowitz replied using @techbytes | May 03 23:00 |
| MinceR | there's no need for religious nonsense any more. | May 03 23:00 |
| Constantine | then what should be done about it | May 03 23:00 |
| MinceR | it should be history. | May 03 23:00 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: cause it's from a broader POV | May 03 23:00 |
| MinceR | people should start living their lives by reason. | May 03 23:00 |
| MinceR | and correct morality. | May 03 23:00 |
| MinceR | (none of the "offer your daughter up for rape" bullshit) | May 03 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 日本の災害対応を米懸念官僚縦割り」流出の米公電 http://alturl.com/2ka7n | May 03 23:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: asahi.com¡ÊÄ«Æü¿·Ê¹¼Ò¡Ë¡§ÆüË܀κҳ²Âбþ€òÊÆ·üÇ°¡Ö´±Î½½Ä³ä€ê¡×¡¡Î®½Ð€ÎÊƸøÅÅ - À¯¼£ .::. Size~: 39.62 KB | May 03 23:01 |
| schestowitz | [22:53] <GoForbes28> have you watched the onejesusonegod channel? | May 03 23:01 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 03 23:01 |
| schestowitz | I read that as one jesus on god | May 03 23:01 |
| MinceR | lol | May 03 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Two jesus, one cup | May 03 23:02 |
| Constantine | Mincer this we can definetly agree on | May 03 23:02 |
| Constantine | I have three codes of behavior, 1. do not rape, 2. do not steal, 3. do not murder | May 03 23:02 |
| schestowitz | !goiogle carlin ten commandments | May 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | !google carlin ten commandments | May 03 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - George Carlin The Ten Commandments Broken Down | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DYzEs2nj7iZM | May 03 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George Carlin On The Ten Commandments | http://www.skeptic.ca/george_carlin_ten_commandments.htm | May 03 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BlondeSense: GEORGE CARLIN ON THE 10 COMMANDMENTS | http://blondesense.blogspot.com/2005/03/george-carlin-on-10-commandments.html | May 03 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - George Carlin on the ten commandments | http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D5519239193881956619 | May 03 23:03 |
| Constantine | i believe you can justify 2. and maybe 3. | May 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | depends what you define to be stealing | May 03 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Nowadays there are WTO-loving idiots who think that using an idea can be "stealing" | May 03 23:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean BNN asks "Is Jack Layton a “dangerous man?” http://www.bnn.ca/News/2011/5/2/Is-Jack-Layton-a-dangerous-man.aspx Wow... | May 03 23:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Jack Layton a “dangerous man?” .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | May 03 23:04 |
| MinceR | killing in self-defense is preferable to being killed due to a prohibition on murder | May 03 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Or better yet, equatable to murder ("piracy") | May 03 23:04 |
| Constantine | money for food, food, clothing. | May 03 23:05 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: Jack Layton is not a gdangerous man", he's a naughty boy | May 03 23:05 |
| Constantine | items that can be replaced | May 03 23:05 |
| schestowitz | !google jesus monty python naughty boy | May 03 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Monty Python's Life of Brian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian | May 03 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Life of Brian (1979) - Memorable quotes | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079470/quotes | May 03 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Monty Python's Completely Useless Web Site | http://www.intriguing.com/mp/sounds.php | May 03 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Monty Python's Life Of Brian - The Immaculate Edition Blu-Ray ... | http://www.futuregamez.net/movies/lifeofbrian/lifeofbrian.html | May 03 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Wow, if i hit 'i' then '/r' too quickly in !identicurse, it prints the keycodes instead of the normal characters. MAGIC! | May 03 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Quick, Seemoat, fetch my ironic moustache! We have mountains to climb! | May 03 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @wayneborean RT @laurelrusswurm: In Canada, 623,332 votes means 24 seats in Parliament & 937,613 votes means 0 seats. #cdnpoli *needs ... | May 03 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 日本関係６９６３本、大半は０６年以降〈米公電分析〉 http://alturl.com/2kxg9 | May 03 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean I was being artistic with the title. ;) | May 03 23:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: asahi.com¡ÊÄ«Æü¿·Ê¹¼Ò¡Ë¡§ÆüËÜ´Ø·¸£¶£¹£¶£³ËÜ¡¢ÂçȾ€Ï£°£¶Ç¯°Ê¹ß¡ÒÊƸøÅÅʬÀÏ¡Ó - À¯¼£ .::. Size~: 38.67 KB | May 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72599175 | May 03 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 22:01:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Been out and in. Will have time to edit later today. If you are in a rush, you will probably want to edit it yourself. :( | May 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: No rush | May 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72599288 | May 03 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 22:02:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @sebsebseb ahh I didn't realise that @techbytes and @schestowitz were the same person, downloading episode 42 as I dent this :) | May 03 23:06 |
| Constantine | anything to discuss | May 03 23:07 |
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| Constantine | sorry, anything else to discuss | May 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Heh, we lost focus there for a second | May 03 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Novell is laying off | May 03 23:08 |
| Constantine | its fine | May 03 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Boycott Novell accomplishing not what it wanted | May 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | We wanted reformed Novell | May 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | But they fire Mono devs now | May 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Hoefully not the SUSE devs | May 03 23:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Sorry, I don't read King anymore so I'll just have to do without knowing. :D | May 03 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Mental Health week !Canada http://www.cmha.ca/bins/content_page.asp?cid=6-361-3080 | May 03 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @amgine: Biggest take-home msg from !elxn41: Until yesterday assumed a min 40% popular vote necessary 4 majority. #CPC proved it aint so. | May 03 23:09 | |
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| schestowitz | They didn't fire in Germany based on reports | May 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | So maybe SUSE is safe | May 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Ballnux | May 03 23:09 |
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| Constantine | hmm interesting | May 03 23:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Don't know, haven't heard anything myself. Got links? | May 03 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Work tomorrow. | May 03 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Only know it was mentioned on BNN interview with Elizabeth May | May 03 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean It apparently hasn't ended, but the !CPC won't respect it. | May 03 23:11 | |
| Constantine | gonna log time to eat see ya mates | May 03 23:12 |
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| MinceR | you thought novell could be reformed? :> | May 03 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @goforbes28 Lawsuit time then. #BCGOV has to sue #HARPERGOV to hold them to the rules. | May 03 23:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ml2mst/statuses/65511435802914816 | May 03 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ml2mst: Why did #ubuntu replace Rythmbox with Banshee? #mono #techrights #fail | May 03 23:15 |
| MinceR | gn | May 03 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Novell could not be reformed | May 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | We found out within weeks | May 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | "Irrevocable" deal, said ANdres | May 03 23:19 |
| schestowitz | *reas | May 03 23:19 |
| MinceR | ic | May 03 23:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks artists start campaign http://is.gd/PS5Hcg | May 03 23:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | they're firing Mono devs? | May 03 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu picked a hell of a time to throw in Banshee | May 03 23:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | [06:31:16] <kappaOne> Looks like Novell (Attachmate) will be firing all the Mono developers http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQwMQ | May 03 23:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Threat to #GNU #Linux a Top Issue to Address http://is.gd/7ydx47 #swpats | May 03 23:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Patent Threat to !GNU !Linux a Top Issue to Address http://is.gd/7ydx47 #redhat #acacia #patenttroll #uspto | May 03 23:34 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, So Mono is finished | May 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72596022 | May 03 23:34 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Freemor (freemor)'s status on Tuesday, 03-May-11 21:09:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @boycottnovell Thanks for all the good reporting over there at http://techrights.org/ | May 03 23:34 |
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| Will__ | http://blogs.forbes.com/adamhartung/2011/05/03/why-not-all-earnings-are-equal-and-microsoft-has-the-wal-mart-disease/ | May 03 23:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friends Of JACK (Linux Journal) http://lwn.net/Articles/441235/rss | May 03 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wow. Compliant MSM going all out to kowtow for PAP. #sgelection http://ur1.ca/42rb4 | May 03 23:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | uggh | May 03 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | that xchat indicator is severely broken | May 03 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | but Ubuntu developers seem to prefer xchat-braindamage | May 03 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | (xchat-gnome) | May 03 23:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Of course its a Ubuntu tweaked part. | May 03 23:59 |
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