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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @floeff LibreOffice 3.4 Beta 4 available: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/06/libreoffice-3-4-beta-4-available/ !libo !tdf | May 07 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Please watch and understand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJ__iEw4vo #sgelection | May 07 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] on a #Radiohead kick again #Just http://youtu.be/-_qMagfZtv8 the acoustic guitar part just adds bite to an awesome tune | May 07 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Some Syrian ISPs may be blocking Tor. If Tor is not working, it's not safe to log in to Facebook! https://eff.org/r.14J | May 07 00:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What ever the outcome, We are Singapore!: http://wp.me/pj2fj-rv #sgelection | May 07 00:06 | |
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| arrrr! | May 07 00:08 | |
| Glyn Moody congratulated Mozilla for not eliminating a plugin that circumvented US Government censorship. I pointed out to him a second time that his use of Windows was a larger threat than anything Mozilla might or might not do. http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2011/05/why-we-need-firefox.html | May 07 00:10 | |
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| http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2011/05/day-i-nearly-dumped-firefox.html | May 07 00:10 | |
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| I think he got it. | May 07 00:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MEPIS #antiX M11 Screenshots http://is.gd/bilrty based on #debian #gnu #linux and saves old PCs | May 07 00:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Found a huge lava sea and 12 diamonds. oO !miners | May 07 00:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The fall of #novell has led to unprecedented traffic surge in @boycottnovell posts in !techrights | May 07 00:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 11 To Use Gnome 2.32 http://is.gd/MQ2L2d no unity | May 07 00:16 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/L3zhj.jpg | May 07 00:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu - Linux for You Man, Bing! | May 07 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Conflicting reports in blog posts regarding stability of !kubuntu 11.04 (3rd major rant I see) http://is.gd/N3Lq9p will stick with 10.04 LTS | May 07 00:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Windows version of !Identicurse seems to have a fixed window size. I suppose that's a limitation of the way Windows CMD works? | May 07 00:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @joshix: So crowd-source me a derby pick you bunch of free culture bright boys. It's a race to beat a fav, but I'm about stumped. | May 07 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: what? You told him off? | May 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | He's right to congratulate Mozilla | May 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I doubt he even mentioned platforms and the ICE gangsters are not about platforms | May 07 00:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "kissing disease from its oral transmission or simply as #mono in North America"http://is.gd/zruwz4 Kisses from Ballmer. Mo'? No, thanks. | May 07 00:26 | |
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| schestowitz | ow accurate'? http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=1714 | May 07 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | How accurate? That's what I meant.. | May 07 00:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I’ve been busy tonight spamming mailing lists" http://is.gd/JJhxxD Florian, is that *you*? | May 07 00:31 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72837333 | May 07 00:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kev Macphail (kevie)'s status on Friday, 06-May-11 23:30:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz BTW lsitened to the Techbytes podcast, would definitley be happy to be a guest on the show, loved it :) | May 07 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Excellent ^ ping _Goblin | May 07 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #fedora - You are always wrong http://is.gd/dRUe2n someone I know got banned from the channel for humour | May 07 00:36 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: cool! | May 07 00:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @sebsebseb why do you take it upon yourself to invite people onto a show you have no involvement in other than a listener? | May 07 00:41 | |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@adsl-108-72-237-233.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | May 07 00:41 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: we have a good lineup, with Richard Stallman too | May 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070 should be back any moment | May 07 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin lol Gordon so predictable, thought I would get a negative reply to that ^ | May 07 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz Does it with Unity. Quote: "Where the hell did my XChat go? I know! The fairy godmother took it!!!" | May 07 00:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #GNOME 2.30 environment in Debian Squeeze - surprisingly productive http://is.gd/NKDteT #debian #gnu #linux | May 07 00:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder what Debian will do with GNOME 3 | May 07 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty unusable | May 07 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | so far the better distributions are avoiding Unity and GNOME 3 | May 07 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | but GNOME 2.x will only be tenable for so long | May 07 00:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #unity repels many existing #ubuntu users,then maybe #canonical should consider making it default desktop only 4 subs http://is.gd/olpyDT | May 07 00:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ive nearly built my castle! !minecraft | May 07 00:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.04, Unity Released to Mixed Reactions | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 66.75 KB | May 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you sound like fab now | May 07 00:49 |
| schestowitz | [except the accent :-) ] | May 07 00:49 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: maybe they'll pull a trinity, only with wider support | May 07 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Community wall building going on. Awesome! !Miners | May 07 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trying to shoehorn #unity into people's desktop is like trying to convince people they need a Windows-like UI on phones.MSFT tried & failed. | May 07 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "The Sandstone Mystery" !Miners | May 07 00:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @sebsebseb I was asking a question, why do you feel you have the right to speak on behalf of a show you listen to? | May 07 00:51 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's called bootstrapping. They leverage the user base they have who think they're upgrading to Natty, then shove more Ubuntu One crap on them that they didn't want. | May 07 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting more desperate to pimp out their overpriced MP3 store and proprietary software that nobody wants. | May 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I saw that | May 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz | on a 10.10 machine at work | May 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu one | May 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz | But I put kubuntu-desktop on that | May 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz | that's where the fog tentacles have not reached yet | May 07 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ubuntu One is more in your face in 11.10 | May 07 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu Won? | May 07 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | and even if you buy MP3s from Banshee's Amazon store, Canonical siphons all the money and sticks GNOME with a few pennies | May 07 00:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Game developer David Braben creates a USB stick PC for $25 http://is.gd/mmnOEt "You plug it into a HDMI socket..running a version of Linux." | May 07 00:54 | |
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| Ender2070 | im here now | May 07 00:54 |
| Ender2070 | just getting ready | May 07 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Cool | May 07 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: first question is intro to fedora 15 | May 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz | not to new linux users | May 07 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | errr in 11.04 I mean :P | May 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause people who listen to the show are quite veteran | May 07 00:55 |
| Ender2070 | alright | May 07 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I assume they're going to put more Ubuntu One hooks in 11.10 though | May 07 00:55 |
| Ender2070 | what program do you use again? | May 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: URL? | May 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz | I can try SIP or Skype | May 07 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, jono was fapping over more Ubuntu One concepts | May 07 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | on his blog the other day | May 07 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | he must have gotten hungry and went to Burger King after that | May 07 00:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Server just died. !Miners | May 07 00:56 | |
| MinceR | for a vista sp7 burger? | May 07 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I realise that there are words that jono and MarkS say the same way | May 07 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's around the time he tweeted that Burger King rocks for posting the calories online (like every fast food place does) | May 07 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Like "exciting" | May 07 00:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i haven't heard it, but perhaps they learned them from crApple commercials? :> | May 07 00:58 |
| jono | DaemonFC, what I said rocks is how sleek that calorie tool works | May 07 00:58 |
| jono | but you know...whatever :-) | May 07 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Vista7 burger is representative of the amount of fat in Windows 7. If Windows 7 were in fact a burger it would have enough cholesterol to kill anything that's ever lived. Aside from little Japanese people which always seem to win hot dog contests too. | May 07 00:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: apple says "exciting"? | May 07 00:59 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube steve jobs exciting | May 07 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DD1R-jKKp3NA | May 07 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Present Like Steve Jobs | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2-ntLGOyHw4 | May 07 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Steve Jobs Macworld 2008 Keynote in 60 Seconds | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DYz1-cPx0cIk | May 07 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - A Brief YouTube History of the Steve Jobs Macworld Expo Keynote | http://technologizer.com/2008/12/16/a-brief-youtube-history-of-the-steve-jobs-macworld-expo-keynote/ | May 07 00:59 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i presume they would, at least sometimes | May 07 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, jono had them make a Vista7 burger with some Jono Bacon | May 07 00:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @sebsebseb those dents are only todays episode, I'm asking in general, not specifically this one | May 07 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal Reviewed: This is My Favorite Ubuntu EVER! http://is.gd/pFEbuN good to know some #Ubuntu users like changes,still | May 07 00:59 | |
| schestowitz | check carefully though | May 07 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal Reviewed: This is My Favorite Ubuntu EVER! | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 57.19 KB | May 07 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 07 00:59 |
| schestowitz | jono says the "c" in exciting the same way mark does | May 07 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it's picked up in a contagious way... that's how people's minds get programmed -- by what they hear | May 07 01:00 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - skype for now | May 07 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin hmm now I am in a arguement type thing with Gordon on Identica, GREAT (sarcasm) | May 07 01:00 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72838368 | May 07 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: ok | May 07 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | jono, I assume you love it because it's in Flash and can't be used without proprietary software that has lots of security problems? | May 07 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 07 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Friday, 06-May-11 23:58:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @thistleweb: I used the word maybe, since not my choice. Also pretty sure I talked to @schestowitz on IRC about @kevie being on before that. | May 07 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | The BK calorie thingy | May 07 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Maybe I can have some help here, I am not really good at replying to these kind of things. | May 07 01:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @sebsebseb you invited yourself into our unanounced IRC channel on the basis that "you don't come often so it's ok" too | May 07 01:01 | |
| jono | DaemonFC, obviously | May 07 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | On one tab, jono bacon is using a Trash Applet, on another tab he's logging into his bank account. stay tuned for his next credit report update | May 07 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 07 01:02 |
| jono | I love non-free shitty software | May 07 01:02 |
| jono | lol | May 07 01:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nybill: Ut oh, the Aussie's have crashed the server once again. :/ (he he...) !miners | May 07 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I just love roasting bacon | May 07 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 07 01:03 |
| MinceR | roasting jono? ew. | May 07 01:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @sebsebseb the guests are down to Roy & Tim, not you, you were never part of the deal, no matter what you believed | May 07 01:04 | |
| DaemonFC | jono refuses to use language wrt Flash that he wouldn't use in the presence of his mother | May 07 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | that makes him evil | May 07 01:05 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: want to join the interview? | May 07 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | (in my book) | May 07 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 07 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe you can make it clear to thisleweb in that convo, that people like me are alloweed to recommend guests for the TechBytes show, and then it's up to you and _Goblin to choose who to have? | May 07 01:06 |
| ThistleWeb | what? | May 07 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | oh he's here | May 07 01:06 |
| ThistleWeb | yes he's here | May 07 01:06 |
| MinceR | gn | May 07 01:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/66652828881534976 | May 07 01:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz exactly, for me it gets in the way of what I want to do | May 07 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I don't want to argue on Identica or here either really, becuase of misunderstandings | May 07 01:07 |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: if yer gonna willingly swim into unsure waters, don't rely on a life raft | May 07 01:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Does anyone know what on earth to do with Brick on !minecraft? Just made it...can't see a use yet. | May 07 01:08 | |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: if yer gonna invite guests on, do it on your own show | May 07 01:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vk7hse: @fabsh /me slaps server with a wet fish! O_o !Miners | May 07 01:09 | |
| ThistleWeb | there's also a difference between "recomending" someone and "inviting" someone | May 07 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | I woudn't normally recommend someone, altough pretty sure I read some where, about if knew someone who may want to be on the show, tell _Goblin or schestowitz | May 07 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Motherfucking giant chest http://forums.linuxoutlaws.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3586 #Minecraft | May 07 01:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Outlaws Forums • View topic - Chest vs Chest! .::. Size~: 26.8 KB | May 07 01:11 |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: yes, tell roy and tim, not take it upon yourself to invite them | May 07 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | well yes, but had talked to schestowitz on IRC before anything on identica about having kevie possbily on, and he was up for it | May 07 01:11 |
| ThistleWeb | that's the difference | May 07 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | ,but ok I won't recommend/invite on Identica like that again | May 07 01:12 |
| ThistleWeb | by all means recomend people, the part that peaves me, is that you chose to speak on behalf of the show and invite them | May 07 01:12 |
| ThistleWeb | that's what my issue is | May 07 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: like I said the dents were worded wrong, so yeah I see where your coming from, how it may ahve sounded like an invite | May 07 01:14 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently it's not the first either | May 07 01:15 |
| ThistleWeb | which is why I'm a bit stronger on this | May 07 01:15 |
| ThistleWeb | I have no issues with Kevie btw, I'm talking about the principle | May 07 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I know your talking about how I did it | May 07 01:17 |
| ThistleWeb | k | May 07 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I think he should come on as a guest yes, which schestowitz wants as well | May 07 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | and maybe if you, so schestowitz _Goblin and you ThistleWeb are up for it, he could maybe come on as a regular? I mean he dented about possbily starting his own audio cast, and then I suggested to schestowitz in here that he could come on as a guest and such, and so on from there | May 07 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | ok makes sense now? | May 07 01:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Came home - found Rose (female dog) has raided the chocolate again. Reminded everyone that I didn't leave it in Rose's reach... | May 07 01:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Guess who is in doghouse tonight? | May 07 01:21 | |
| ThistleWeb | techbytes is really roy and tim, I'm kinda fading out of it, the point is to tell them and let them make the approach if they feel it's suitable | May 07 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: as for me being only a listener, well yeah pretty much, however they want me to come on as a guest soon by the way | May 07 01:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "umm... delivery. SSSSSSSSSS" :D http://forums.linuxoutlaws.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3560 #Minecraft | May 07 01:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Outlaws Forums • View topic - delivery .::. Size~: 23.43 KB | May 07 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I seen it once recently, and once uhmm last year, about you maybe quiting. whilst I am at it I may as well take the opperunity. I know we don't exactly get on as well as we used to on IRC anymore, but well Techbytes episodes are useually the best when you are in them :) | May 07 01:23 |
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| ThistleWeb | I didn't bring this up to start an argument, but to nip something in the bud | May 07 01:24 |
| of course not. I begged him to consider a free software desktop and he seems to have agreed. (04:31:47 PM) schestowitz: twitter: what? You told him off? | May 07 01:24 | |
| Moody is interesting and smart. The Mozilla story was an excellent introduction to the power non free software holds over it's users. | May 07 01:25 | |
| Mozilla has done the right thing but Microsoft can apply DHS censorship anyway. | May 07 01:26 | |
| That is much harder to do to a really free desktop. | May 07 01:26 | |
| cubezzz | one thing that I don't think has been addressed... | May 07 01:27 |
| cubezzz | that that's old proprietary software | May 07 01:27 |
| cubezzz | you can't buy it or replace it | May 07 01:27 |
| cubezzz | the original company is gone and you're stuck | May 07 01:27 |
| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 07 01:27 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well there's a saying put yourself in the other persons shoes. well I am going to quickly here. I guess you hadn't seen any of the other related s tuff be that IRC or that convo I linked to. So you probably saw those dents, and was basically thinking like, what is he doing? | May 07 01:27 |
| sebsebseb | anyway things ok now? | May 07 01:27 |
| that would be RMS warning you that software owners can deny use for any reason at any time. | May 07 01:27 | |
| cubezzz | but it's different from been denied in this case | May 07 01:28 |
| cubezzz | it's just in limbo | May 07 01:28 |
| planned obsolescence is a nasty form of denial | May 07 01:28 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: as for the Techbytes channel I am rather unlikely to go there anyway, but uhmmm, channels can be set up to be invite only and such I think on here, so other people can't just go and join them | May 07 01:29 |
| cubezzz | twitter, companies like Central Coast Software were helpful and friendly | May 07 01:29 |
| cubezzz | but they are long gone now | May 07 01:29 |
| Virtual machines get around planned obsolescence but they can't guard against malicious features. | May 07 01:29 | |
| cubezzz | see, even if I wanted to I can't buy some utilities I need | May 07 01:30 |
| the source is with you cubezzz | May 07 01:31 | |
| you can do it! | May 07 01:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I'm off to bed, I'm dead tired. Hope the server comes back by itself... | May 07 01:31 | |
| cubezzz | another scenario... | May 07 01:31 |
| cubezzz | I bought the utilities I needed long ago | May 07 01:31 |
| cubezzz | and the disks went bad | May 07 01:32 |
| cubezzz | stuck again | May 07 01:32 |
| cubezzz | a bacterium that eats label adhesive attacks the diskettes... | May 07 01:32 |
| cubezzz | the last company that makes parts for my machine goes under... | May 07 01:33 |
| cubezzz | twitter, I can't build my own disk drives without a massive effort | May 07 01:34 |
| cubezzz | not for this old machine | May 07 01:34 |
| http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2011/05/why-we-need-firefox.html | May 07 01:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Why We Need Firefox .::. Size~: 74.95 KB | May 07 01:36 |
| 2 COMMENTS: | May 07 01:37 | |
| twitter said... | May 07 01:37 | |
| The more of this we see, the more obvious the need for software freedom becomes. | May 07 01:37 | |
| Mozilla's response is commendable but represenative of free software in general. I'm sure the people at KDE or the team behind Midori would have responded in a similar way. As RMS put it the other day, "Software freedom is the only known solution to malicious features." Mozilla, KDE and others can't add these features to their software because the world will fork around them. | May 07 01:37 | |
| Microsoft has no such problems, so Windows users are not out of the woods. DHS can ask Microsoft to remove this program and it won't matter what Mozilla did. People who want to avoid censorship should use gnu/linux instead of Windows and avoid all non free software. Software that has owners is always a bad deal for users. | May 07 01:37 | |
| 8:05 PM | May 07 01:37 | |
| glyn moody said... | May 07 01:38 | |
| @twitter: indeed | May 07 01:38 | |
| 8:15 PM | May 07 01:38 | |
| ************* end Moody blog *****************/ | May 07 01:40 | |
| Sometimes the world makes an irrefutable point. | May 07 01:40 | |
| Diablo-D3 | says the guy named twitter. | May 07 01:42 |
| sometimes I'm lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time | May 07 01:43 | |
| it's a joy to notice | May 07 01:43 | |
| and a bigger joy to share | May 07 01:43 | |
| cubezzz | well at least microsoft doesn't make computers | May 07 01:44 |
| they won't make anything when enough people understand what a bad deal non free software is | May 07 01:44 | |
| Diablo-D3 | also | May 07 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is my contribution to society | May 07 01:45 |
| *Diablo-D3 goes over to bill gates house | May 07 01:45 | |
| *Diablo-D3 pulls his dick out | May 07 01:45 | |
| *Diablo-D3 jerks off in bill gates' supper | May 07 01:45 | |
| *Diablo-D3 calmly walks out | May 07 01:45 | |
| why not just tell him about the joys of software freedom? | May 07 01:45 | |
| cubezzz | o_O | May 07 01:46 |
| cubezzz | yeah it would be nice if he said yeah I've made enough money, let's dismantle microsoft | May 07 01:47 |
| Software freedom or secret sauce ? | May 07 01:48 | |
| Bill likes one of them. | May 07 01:48 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | May 07 01:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 too hot for DaemonFC | May 07 01:49 | |
| cubezzz | you could buy a computer without microsoft in the 80's | May 07 01:50 |
| cubezzz | you still can today, it's just harder to find | May 07 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: thanks, that was very good. We covered almost everything. | May 07 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Some arsehole was using our credit card fraudulently. I think it was because of the Sony breach. PS3 fans, check your statements! | May 07 01:51 | |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - thanks again :) | May 07 01:51 |
| Sadly, Bill Gates has gone on to other scams for squeezing money out of everyone. Pharma ownership, privatizing public schools, so on and so forth. | May 07 01:51 | |
| You have to wonder what motivates a sociopath like that. | May 07 01:52 | |
| cubezzz | control | May 07 01:52 |
| cubezzz | he has to be the one in control all the time | May 07 01:53 |
| how many dancing monkeys does one man need? | May 07 01:53 | |
| Diablo-D3 | shit dude | May 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'll settle for one sex slave | May 07 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | more than, like, two is a waste | May 07 01:53 |
| Ender2070 | in the 80's it was also harder to find a computer you could build yourself | May 07 01:53 |
| Ender2070 | now you can find parts in staples | May 07 01:53 |
| *nisshh has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | May 07 01:53 | |
| be careful, they seem to be habit forming | May 07 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: good point made to moody | May 07 01:54 |
| schestowitz | I see the context now | May 07 01:54 |
| thanks | May 07 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | DHS controlling .eu desktops | May 07 01:54 |
| he's a good person to make the point for | May 07 01:54 | |
| schestowitz | Getting the DHS (Hollywood front in this case) out of one's house and PC | May 07 01:54 |
| DHS would control everyone's desktop. | May 07 01:55 | |
| Ender2070 | ooooo | May 07 01:55 |
| Ender2070 | I'm delighted | May 07 01:55 |
| Ender2070 | DHS = Hollywood | May 07 01:55 |
| Ender2070 | good stuff :D | May 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz | it's not | May 07 01:55 |
| *nisshh (~ryan@unaffiliated/nisshh) has joined #techrights | May 07 01:55 | |
| Ender2070 | hollywood works for them | May 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz | DHS is government is funders | May 07 01:55 |
| and Bill Gates does control about 70% of the world's desktops | May 07 01:55 | |
| cubezzz | how is DHS controlling .eu desktops? | May 07 01:55 |
| by bossing around Mozilla for one | May 07 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | funders are the 'wealth of nation' (meaning rich people, not treasury) | May 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz | !google lessig funder influence | May 07 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - About Fix Congress First | http://fixcongressfirst.org/about/ | May 07 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Boston Review — Lawrence Lessig: Democracy After Citizens United | http://bostonreview.net/BR35.5/lessig.php | May 07 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Regulators Ignoring Internet's Real Effects, Lessig Says, and Free ... | http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/regulators_ignoring_internets_real_effects_lessig_says_and_free_exchange_su/ | May 07 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Lessig.Info: Disclosure Statement | http://www.lessig.org/info/disclosure/ | May 07 01:56 |
| Mozilla refused to be bossed, so now DHS will probably go to Microsoft and Bill will quietly comply | May 07 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they want to remove sites that offer a service | May 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz | And they do that | May 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz | using suffix types based on the US | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | like .com | May 07 01:57 |
| cubezzz | you can recompile.... | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | No due process | May 07 01:57 |
| Ender2070 | I know quite often the pentagon itself offers hollywood plots for stories | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | But they can't take the sites down | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | So someone writes s/w to overcome this | May 07 01:57 |
| cubezzz | offer a service as in any service? | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | And now the lean on Mozilla to remove the s/w | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | !google dhs mozilla | May 07 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mozilla tells DHS: we won't help you censor the Internet - Boing Boing | http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/05/mozilla-tells-dhs-we.html | May 07 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Homeland Security Wants Mozilla to Pull “Domain Seizure” Add-On ... | http://torrentfreak.com/homeland-security-wants-mozilla-to-pull-domain-seizure-add-on-110505/ | May 07 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Mozilla Refuses to Block Extension for Homeland Security - As ... | http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Mozilla-Refuses-to-Block-Extension-for-Homeland-Security-114086 | May 07 01:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Homeland Security Demands Mozilla Remove Firefox Extension That ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110505/14444714170/homeland-security-demands-mozilla-remove-firefox-extension-that-redirects-seized-domains.shtml | May 07 01:57 |
| schestowitz | DHS=Dumb Hooligans Service | May 07 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Serving Hollywood since... | May 07 01:58 |
| cubezzz | I'd say FOSS pulls out Microsoft's teeth quite effectively | May 07 02:00 |
| Microsoft TEs will see Moody's comment and be pissed. | May 07 02:00 | |
| it will take them weeks to spin the truth out of him | May 07 02:00 | |
| schestowitz | why Microsoft? | May 07 02:02 |
| schestowitz | It's a DHS issue | May 07 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll get hbgaries of the world | May 07 02:02 |
| DHS manipulating Windows is a free software issue. | May 07 02:02 | |
| I just equated Windows with totalitarian DHS | May 07 02:02 | |
| and it is true | May 07 02:02 | |
| people who grew up with toy computers don't always make this connection | May 07 02:03 | |
| cubezzz | can we get a definition on toy computer? | May 07 02:03 |
| see Windows | May 07 02:03 | |
| cubezzz | ok, I thought it might be broader than that | May 07 02:04 |
| to them, computers are not necessary - news comes on paper, etc, so things that hamper people on computers were not understood as a real human rights issue | May 07 02:04 | |
| schestowitz | Windows is not a computer | May 07 02:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] दिग्विजय को जुता मारो - http://ur1.ca/43jgq | May 07 02:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: दिग्विजय को जुता मारो | विचार .::. Size~: 13.47 KB | May 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | It's what one does to a computer to turn it into a toy | May 07 02:04 |
| yes, but it turns any computer into a malicious toy | May 07 02:04 | |
| the larger point is that any non free software puts you at risk of malicious features like spying and censorship | May 07 02:05 | |
| A free browser does not protect the user of a non free computer. | May 07 02:06 | |
| cubezzz | you really need three things for freedom with computers: | May 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fearnet.com/news/b11096_top_10_evil_babies.html | May 07 02:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UPDATED: The Top 10 Evil Babies! - FEARnet .::. Size~: 76.33 KB | May 07 02:06 |
| cubezzz | the compiler, the source code, and the computer itself | May 07 02:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz Ubuntu - Linux for You Man, Bing! | May 07 02:06 | |
| cubezzz | and I suppose an internet connection as well | May 07 02:06 |
| the issue is more serious when your computer is your mail, news banking and entertainment and you have no other options. | May 07 02:07 | |
| The invisible things blog made a point about X11 the other day that should make people afraid to have any non free software on gnu/linux. | May 07 02:08 | |
| cubezzz | I have my own mail server, my bank supports firefox, and I can buy and play DVDs (which I don't do very often) | May 07 02:08 |
| cubezzz | ufile.ca for my taxes | May 07 02:09 |
| cubezzz | worked fine | May 07 02:09 |
| When you install and run skype, you give skype all of your keystrokes | May 07 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Cakephp Facebook Integration - #cakephp #facebook #indian-developer http://sourceforge.net/projects/cakephpfacebook/ | May 07 02:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cakephp Facebook Integration | Download Cakephp Facebook Integration software for free at SourceForge.net .::. Size~: 24.09 KB | May 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/66623953963204608 | May 07 02:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: Its of no surprise that @FOSSpatents takes the side of #oracle, bashes a judge and hates on #google http://bit.ly/kHcHo6 #fsf #swpats | May 07 02:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: FOSS Patents: Oracle strongly opposes judge's proposal for narrowing down claims against Google to 3, instead proposes 21 plus postponement of related decision .::. Size~: 76.25 KB | May 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | That's why he's Microsoft Florian | May 07 02:10 |
| cubezzz | one thing I do miss is the old computer/bbs clubs I used to go to | May 07 02:10 |
| Ender2070 | when you send and receive TCP/IP traffic, you give your ISP all your packets | May 07 02:10 |
| it is a shame that people still listen to Microsoft Florian and publish his BS. | May 07 02:10 | |
| Ender2070 | Bell Canada, Telus, Rogers all willingly hand over customer information to the RCMP | May 07 02:11 |
| but it's mostly the Microsoft press that does this now. | May 07 02:11 | |
| they give him credibility by echoing him | May 07 02:11 | |
| Ender2070 | Canadian privacy laws do not cover private companies as much as they do government agencies | May 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | they don't listen | May 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | They get his mass-mailed BS | May 07 02:11 |
| then it leaks out onto BBC etc | May 07 02:11 | |
| schestowitz | The smart ones ignore | May 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | THe Microsoft press goes like,"whoa! Look, someone defends our beloved Microsoft and bashes those 'other companies', let's quote him" | May 07 02:12 |
| schestowitz | BBC calls him IP expert or somthing | May 07 02:12 |
| but if you are an "average journalist" from USA Today or some other non tech paper, you might research the "tech press" and run into Microsoft Florian and take him seriously. It's a problem. | May 07 02:12 | |
| schestowitz | Guffaw! | May 07 02:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Aircraft was first NOT created by Wright Brothers, but by Shivkar Bapuji Talpade eight years before they did http://ur1.ca/43joj | May 07 02:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 Found | May 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | He's focused on attacking people like us now | May 07 02:13 |
| Microsoft manufactures experts when it helps them. | May 07 02:13 | |
| schestowitz | Cause he's relieved his other main critics and exposer, PJ, is stepping down | May 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | twitter: not just that, hit grooms them | May 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | De Icaza for example | May 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | His role is to go to FOSS events and legitimise Microsoft | May 07 02:14 |
| schestowitz | Also does it online | May 07 02:14 |
| schestowitz | And the Microsoft boosters like Joe B quote him | May 07 02:14 |
| Well, sure, it was in their little training manual and other Comes docs. | May 07 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | !google icaza joe ipad | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Kid's Games on the iPad - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Mar-23.html | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Miguel de Icaza | http://tirania.org/blog/ | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Techmeme: Dropbox Lack of Security (Miguel de Icaza) | http://www.techmeme.com/110419/p16 | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Flying Frog Blog: Miguel de Icaza of Mono on LLVM and F# | http://flyingfrogblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/miguel-de-icaza-of-mono-on-llvm-and-f.html | May 07 02:14 |
| We shall see what happens over at Groklaw. | May 07 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | !google idg icaza ipad | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - GNOME creator respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031111-deicaza-gnome-ipad2.html | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Source Seeker: Reports: Attachmate lays off Mono developers; de ... | http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/attachmate-lays-off-Mono-developers | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - GNOME creator respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 ... | http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm%3Fid%3D77E17244-1A64-6A71-CED52B8F57F10FD2 | May 07 02:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - GNOME creator respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2 ... | http://www.pcworldme.net/2011/03/11/gnome-creator-respects-proprietary-software-cant-wait-for-ipad-2/ | May 07 02:14 |
| schestowitz | That's the one | May 07 02:14 |
| If PJ does things right, Groklaw will become immortal. | May 07 02:14 | |
| schestowitz | groklaw is supposed to have no new articles | May 07 02:15 |
| Can't wait for iPad2. har har. | May 07 02:15 | |
| Ender2070 | maybe Miguel will go from Novell to MSFT? | May 07 02:15 |
| schestowitz | But I think her comment says someone else might go on | May 07 02:15 |
| Ender2070 | time will tell | May 07 02:15 |
| cubezzz | I just think ipads are a waste of money | May 07 02:15 |
| schestowitz | In which case her claims would not be kept correct | May 07 02:15 |
| Digitimes was worried about a glut of tablets | May 07 02:15 | |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I should catch up with that soon | May 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | I updated Techrights Legal today | May 07 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: By the way your messing people on identica sometimes here and there at the moment .@username | May 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | See the wiki and expand if possible | May 07 02:16 |
| cool | May 07 02:16 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the . is messing it up | May 07 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | messing up messaging people, above, typed wrong thing | May 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | I spent more time on bytes media though, all night last night | May 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | !google bytesmedia | May 07 02:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Best Bytes Media - Videography | http://www.bestbytesmedia.com/ | May 07 02:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Best Bytes Media on Vimeo | http://vimeo.com/bestbytesmedia | May 07 02:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Info Bytes Media | eCommerce Solutions | http://www.infobytesmedia.com.au/ | May 07 02:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Best Bytes Media | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/pages/Best-Bytes-Media/192247474563 | May 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. | May 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz | http://bytesmedia.co.uk | May 07 02:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bytes Media - Sites Index .::. Size~: 37.15 KB | May 07 02:17 |
| thanks for working on it | May 07 02:17 | |
| schestowitz | np | May 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz | We just need to pull PDFs from PACER | May 07 02:17 |
| schestowitz | it's one of those things PJ did as a service | May 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | I have PDF/HTML conversion tools | May 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | I collected them | May 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | So I can put up the texts when Groklaw is not around | May 07 02:18 |
| nice | May 07 02:18 | |
| schestowitz | I need RECAP | May 07 02:18 |
| schestowitz | If it's still around | May 07 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Freedom to Tinker might know | May 07 02:19 |
| schestowitz | !google RECAP paer access firefox | May 07 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - About | Recap Firefox Extension | https://www.recapthelaw.org/about/ | May 07 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - SXSW 2011 recap… « Jay's Blog | http://blog.mozilla.com/jay/2011/03/28/sxsw-2011-recap/ | May 07 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Musings: Crowdsource RECAP of PACER documents for next to nothing ... | http://colonelqubit.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/musings-crowdsource-recap-of-pacer-documents-for-next-to-nothing/ | May 07 02:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Centered Librarian: RECAP, Firefox PACER Plug-in: Public ... | http://centeredlibrarian.blogspot.com/2009/08/recap-firefox-pacer-plug-in-public.html | May 07 02:19 |
| schestowitz | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/recap-195534/ | May 07 02:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RECAP :: Add-ons for Firefox .::. Size~: 31.81 KB | May 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz | rev up your browsers... | May 07 02:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/72842573 | May 07 02:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 07-May-11 01:24:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Thanks :)! | May 07 02:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13263888 | May 07 02:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/sony-warns-of-almost-25-million-extra-user-detail-theft-878574/ | May 07 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - North Korea 'behind South Korean bank cyber hack' .::. Size~: 57.07 KB | May 07 02:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony warns of almost 25 million extra user detail theft .::. Size~: 41.75 KB | May 07 02:27 |
| money soon to mysteriously flow to Sony bank accounts? | May 07 02:28 | |
| blame Anonymous! | May 07 02:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Catching up on !TechBytes !listening to Episode 41 which has a guest in it! | May 07 02:29 | |
| there was a recent scandal where some big russian bank was behind a bunch of scare ware fraud companies | May 07 02:30 | |
| they set up proxy firms to scrape up the money and kept a big cut of the fraud | May 07 02:30 | |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, bank phishes hacker | May 07 02:32 |
| phish is banker | May 07 02:33 | |
| and banker is phisher | May 07 02:33 | |
| schestowitz | mr; fish | May 07 02:33 |
| why not skip the intermediate steps and just move the money from holder accounts to executive accounts? | May 07 02:34 | |
| they could make a small shell script to do it and then fire all the middle men | May 07 02:34 | |
| "I'm sorry, Ivan, but our records clearly show that someone in your house bought SuperSafe8 and a life time subscription. Please contact the dealer to cancel the contract at AOL headquarters." | May 07 02:36 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66195673783078912 | May 07 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: Huffington Post/Edward Naughton: Google's Android: Closing the Honeycomb Code May Open a Legal Can of Worms http://huff.to/jGqEBj #gpl | May 07 02:39 |
| schestowitz | MS FLO | May 07 02:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Edward J. Naughton: Google's Android: Closing the Honeycomb Code May Open a Legal Can of Worms .::. Size~: 291.72 KB | May 07 02:39 |
| schestowitz | anti-Google 24/7 | May 07 02:39 |
| schestowitz | who is he kidding even? | May 07 02:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66253003153354752 | May 07 02:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @tlajtoani cc: @schestowitz Read the NetworkWorld article (also on Slashdot) on Red Hat's CEO's position on patent trolls. Don't blame me. | May 07 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft booster brought it up | May 07 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Joe B | May 07 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Feeding frenzy for the mobbyist | May 07 02:41 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66256481258979328 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66234965263777793 | May 07 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: Some of those Slashdot comments on Red Hat's CEO's pay-up-for-patents thing are totally ROFLMAO funny *and* spot-on http://bit.ly/kogOoG | May 07 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Red Hat CEO On Patent Trolls: Just Pay Them Off - Slashdot .::. Size~: 127.78 KB | May 07 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: NetworkWorld article: Red Hat CEO on patents: sometimes you just have to pay up; admits secret license deals http://bit.ly/kb5CTZ | May 07 02:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Red Hat CEO hates patent trolls, but says sometimes you just have to pay up .::. Size~: 130.09 KB | May 07 02:41 |
| schestowitz | And now arguing with Glyn and Jan over it | May 07 02:41 |
| schestowitz | what a lowlife | May 07 02:41 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/66503259468206080 | May 07 02:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: @glynmoody Linked article's argument is weak. At Nuremberg we did put on trial "masters of media", Julius Streicher in particular. | May 07 02:44 |
| schestowitz | Mono trolls speaks too: | May 07 02:45 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/m4n1sh/status/66525216985202688 | May 07 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @m4n1sh: Sadly the statement by Red Hat to pay off trolls will attract more trolls and can get Red Hat involved in more patent battles. :( | May 07 02:45 |
| schestowitz | *speak | May 07 02:45 |
| M$ Flow? a nickname for Florian? -> schestowitz: MS FLO | May 07 02:45 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: You should have linked to the context really above I guess: http://identi.ca/conversation/70422568#notice-72842573 | May 07 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.55 KB | May 07 02:45 |
| paying off patent trolls is a bad idea, but now that I see the source I wonder what Red Hat really did and said. | May 07 02:47 | |
| "feeding frenzy" fits the event | May 07 02:47 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: Ender2070: http://www.winnipegsun.com/2011/05/05/toba-to-announce-cellphone-contract-regulationc | May 07 02:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | May 07 02:48 |
| Ender2070 | gone already? | May 07 02:49 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: Ender2070: http://www.winnipegsun.com/2011/05/05/toba-to-announce-cellphone-contract-regulation | May 07 02:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 07 02:49 |
| why am I going to look at Florian's twitter stream? | May 07 02:49 | |
| Gah! http://twitter.com/#!/FOSSpatents/status/66630902507257856 | May 07 02:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 I don't look at Oracle and Google in terms of who's a "victim" or not. Justice is more important than any such categorizations. | May 07 02:50 |
| Ender2070 | sounds good schesowitz, too bad I don't live in Manitoba though | May 07 02:50 |
| Ender2070 | Florian is telling | May 07 02:50 |
| *koolhead17 (~atul@unaffiliated/koolhead17) has joined #techrights | May 07 02:50 | |
| Ender2070 | "Justice is more important than any such categorizations." | May 07 02:50 |
| Ender2070 | justice = just us | May 07 02:50 |
| Yeah! Because justice has nothing to do with examining evidence and determining intent ... | May 07 02:51 | |
| or harm done | May 07 02:51 | |
| Justice is TOO IMPORTANT for little details | May 07 02:51 | |
| what an air head | May 07 02:52 | |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, actually I never use a cellphone | May 07 02:52 |
| right, the cellphone uses you | May 07 02:53 | |
| Ender2070 | i've asked him if he supports patent trolls since they are using law | May 07 02:53 |
| cubezzz | I think we agreed before they're it's not great to have a microwave transmitter against your head | May 07 02:53 |
| microwave my privates, please | May 07 02:53 | |
| cubezzz | I still use landlines | May 07 02:54 |
| cubezzz | plus the bookstore I go to has a pay phone | May 07 02:54 |
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| cubezzz | twitter, almost 7 billion people in the world :) | May 07 02:56 |
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| I wonder if there's a correlation between birth defects and microwaves | May 07 02:57 | |
| !google cell phone birth defects | May 07 02:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Cell Phone EMF And Birth Defects | http://www.rfsafe.com/research/rf_hazards/birth_defects/intro.htm | May 07 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cell-Phone Towers and Communities: The Struggle for Local Control | http://arts.envirolink.org/arts_and_activism/BlakeLevitt.html | May 07 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Maximum PC | Researcher Warns of Wi-Fi Related Birth Defects | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/researcher_warns_wi-fi_related_birth_defects | May 07 02:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Radiation Scare from Mobile Phones - VIDEO | Globalchange.com | http://www.globalchange.com/radiation.htm | May 07 02:58 |
| wow | May 07 02:58 | |
| Ender2070 | even microwaves leak | May 07 02:58 |
| cubezzz | there was some talk about brain tumours | May 07 02:59 |
| Ender2070 | it takes a lot of effort to find one that doesn't | May 07 02:59 |
| yeah but inverse square and your pocket are not your friends | May 07 02:59 | |
| cubezzz | I think a few homeless people managed to cook themselves by getting close to a big transmitter | May 07 02:59 |
| Ender2070 | oh yeah the money in your pocket | May 07 02:59 |
| Ender2070 | coins, metal objects | May 07 03:00 |
| cubezzz | good point | May 07 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | one point a researcher brought out was a classroom full of laptops with wifi | May 07 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | a lot of schools use desks & chairs with metal | May 07 03:00 |
| the links between glioma and cell phone use are troubling | May 07 03:01 | |
| there might be genetic damage too from damaged sperm in men of child bearing age | May 07 03:02 | |
| Ender2070 | yeah but nobody cares about that | May 07 03:02 |
| Ender2070 | the government will say no its not happening, anyone who says otherwise is ignored | May 07 03:03 |
| Ender2070 | there are a lot of things that reduce a males sperm count and none of them are banned | May 07 03:03 |
| Ender2070 | one exception would be Yellow #5 (In Canada) | May 07 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | Canadian mountain dew is lacking yellow #5 | May 07 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | i dont know if it was removed from the US version | May 07 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | I doubt it | May 07 03:04 |
| low counts are one thing, damage is worse but the two can be linked | May 07 03:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I liked the music in !TechBytes Episode 41. Now !listening to Episode 42 :). | May 07 03:23 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hello all | May 07 03:39 |
| GoForbes28 | is ender2070 doing techbytes right now? | May 07 03:40 |
| GoForbes28 | I take that as a yes | May 07 03:41 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: uh right now? | May 07 03:41 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | May 07 03:41 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: rather unlikely 03:41 here in UK | May 07 03:41 |
| GoForbes28 | in the morning? | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | am | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | yep in the morning | May 07 03:42 |
| Ender2070 | I already did it | May 07 03:42 |
| GoForbes28 | And the time where you are? | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | or at night, depending on what you want to say | May 07 03:42 |
| GoForbes28 | 10:41 here | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: 03:42am here UK | May 07 03:42 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: How did it go? | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: ah ha, so the Fedora ambassador you again | May 07 03:42 |
| Ender2070 | pretty well | May 07 03:42 |
| GoForbes28 | And why are you all still awake? :P | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | I was wondering who they would have on, but yeah that makes sense, you again | May 07 03:42 |
| Ender2070 | that was at 8pm EST | May 07 03:42 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: sleep issues | May 07 03:43 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Try Gravol | May 07 03:43 |
| sebsebseb | well I can nearly sleep whenever I want, but a lot of going to bed not tired, hmm | May 07 03:43 |
| sebsebseb | Gravol??? | May 07 03:43 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | May 07 03:43 |
| sebsebseb | some sort of drug? | May 07 03:43 |
| GoForbes28 | over the counter of course, non-prescription | May 07 03:43 |
| GoForbes28 | Benidryl has the same ingredients as well | May 07 03:44 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: I think my body is confussed about when to sleep, so night or day, doesn't matter, can sleep in either | May 07 03:44 |
| Ender2070 | you damaged your sleep cycle? | May 07 03:44 |
| sebsebseb | also 24 hours awake which I don't tend to do, but I am likely to not be feeling tired now, that's how things are | May 07 03:44 |
| GoForbes28 | seb*3: need to fix your circadian rhythms | May 07 03:44 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: yep seems so | May 07 03:45 |
| GoForbes28 | That's not good in the long term | May 07 03:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Just FYI | May 07 03:45 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: GoForbes28 Had this kind of thing for well a long time now really | May 07 03:46 |
| sebsebseb | even went to a doctor to talk about it last summer, which was rather well useless | May 07 03:46 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender2070: Did you get into the conspiracy stuff on the show? | May 07 03:46 |
| Ender2070 | no | May 07 03:46 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Should go to a specialized sleep institude | May 07 03:46 |
| GoForbes28 | or try gravol | May 07 03:46 |
| GoForbes28 | works really well | May 07 03:47 |
| GoForbes28 | of course, getting in the habit of taking it everytime isn't a good thing either | May 07 03:47 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: had this kind of thing for about three years now, but even in 2007 and 2008 when I was doing a course, I had sleep issues | May 07 03:47 |
| sebsebseb | I mean I could go into UK college, and be awake 24 hours, which I did sometimes even, and yeah for exmaple | May 07 03:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Do you have any abnormal sleep behaviour? | May 07 03:48 |
| GoForbes28 | Grinding of teeth? Holding your breath? | May 07 03:48 |
| sebsebseb | would be nice to get tired again, like a normal/average person really, I mean after being awake like 14 to 17 hours. | May 07 03:48 |
| GoForbes28 | What's your caffeine intake? | May 07 03:48 |
| sebsebseb | nope I don't drink cofeee | May 07 03:48 |
| sebsebseb | and I don't tend to drink energy drinks either | May 07 03:49 |
| Ender2070 | you should then | May 07 03:49 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: uhmm? | May 07 03:49 |
| sebsebseb | Caffeine is meant to keep people awake | May 07 03:49 |
| Ender2070 | yeah but it burns people out | May 07 03:49 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: maybe I should start drinking more alchole, I mean that can make people feel tired | May 07 03:49 |
| Ender2070 | its good for waking up in the morning | May 07 03:49 |
| Ender2070 | its bad for trying to stay awake at night | May 07 03:49 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: Not to mention will keep you awake due to the need to urinate all the time :P | May 07 03:49 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender: and only for short-term spurts | May 07 03:50 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: Do you take daytime naps? | May 07 03:50 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: Ender2070 It seems to me, that a lot of younger people so like, teenagers to people in 20's, get sleep issues | May 07 03:50 |
| Ender2070 | sebsebseb - do you eat raw uncooked fruits and vegatables as your entire diet? | May 07 03:50 |
| GoForbes28 | sebsebseb: What is the quality of the sleep you do get? | May 07 03:51 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: I may go to bed a bit earlier tonight/thismorning. I could go for a 24 hour or so day if I really wanted to, but don't feel like that right now. | May 07 03:52 |
| sebsebseb | I sleep normal amount really when I sleep, useually like six to eight hours | May 07 03:52 |
| sebsebseb | sometimes more than eight hours, maybe a bit of waking up in between | May 07 03:52 |
| Ender2070 | I function on six hours | May 07 03:52 |
| GoForbes28 | If you take naps during the day, go no longer than 30 minutes, otherwise you will enter REM | May 07 03:52 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: what's REM? | May 07 03:52 |
| GoForbes28 | which does nothing for you sleep cycle | May 07 03:52 |
| GoForbes28 | Rapid-eye movement | May 07 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: well like I said earlier, I can sleep nearly whenever I want, night or day, at the moment | May 07 03:53 |
| GoForbes28 | The stage of sleep where lucid dreams occur | May 07 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah sleeping in day isn't really the best thing | May 07 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | I Guess | May 07 03:53 |
| GoForbes28 | where learning takes place | May 07 03:53 |
| GoForbes28 | It's important to have it during the night | May 07 03:53 |
| sebsebseb | GoForbes28: What do you mean lucid dreams? | May 07 03:54 |
| Ender2070 | dreams where you know you are dreaming | May 07 03:54 |
| sebsebseb | a few weeks or so back, I was sleeping normalley or pretty much normally for about two weeks it lasted. However I also had a 24 hour or so day before that, then went and slept at night, and kept it up. then I was able to do it though, but well it's hard to do stuff like that | May 07 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | when things are so messed up | May 07 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: sure sometimes had those, not that often though, dreams where I knew I was dreaming | May 07 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | to be honest, sleeping oh sure it's nice when doing it, and got the dreams, but trying to get to sleep tends to be rather annoying for me at the moment, and so on. | May 07 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah sleep issues can be one of those things for many people, that is one of those things that is quite annoying about being human | May 07 03:57 |
| sebsebseb | and it doesn't take much to mess it up either! | May 07 03:58 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: I don't eat that well at the moment, which may be related to my sleep issues here and there a bit | May 07 03:59 |
| Ender2070 | well i was going to point out you might have been eating TOO well | May 07 04:02 |
| Ender2070 | raw vegtables still have the enzymes in them | May 07 04:02 |
| Ender2070 | which your body doesnt have to make to digest them | May 07 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: I don't tend to eat raw vegatbles | May 07 04:03 |
| sebsebseb | also I am not realy that active at the moment, lack exercise and so on, which may be related as well | May 07 04:03 |
| Ender2070 | its one of those things that makes people need coffee in the morning | May 07 04:03 |
| Ender2070 | I don't eat well, nor do I excercise | May 07 04:03 |
| Ender2070 | I function fine on 6 hours of sleep and I never get health issues | May 07 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | when I get stuff like the flu, its gone rather quickly | May 07 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | like 1 or 2 days | May 07 04:04 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: ok, but I have had these kind of sleep issues since like 2007/2008 and then got worse | May 07 04:05 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | May 07 04:07 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: and I know why it got worse really I guess. well stuff like this happens, when don't have to get up in the morning to start the new day, for a long period of time | May 07 04:08 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: except for maybe rather rarely in that period of time like if on holiday or something | May 07 04:08 |
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| GoForbes28 | gtg now | May 07 04:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The philosophy of WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/fimrz and http://is.gd/arYGBF | May 07 04:31 | |
| GoForbes28 | see you tommorrow | May 07 04:31 |
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| GoForbes28 | EST | May 07 04:31 |
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| GoForbes28 | :) | May 07 04:31 |
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| ha, like the reporter example of being part of a conspiracy http://www.abc.net.au/rn/philosopherszone/stories/2011/3145329.htm | May 07 04:42 | |
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| that's a must read for anyone who deals with WE and Microsoft. | May 07 04:42 | |
| journalists, as a rule, are aware that companies try to spin them | May 07 04:43 | |
| it is rare that they understand their guilt | May 07 04:43 | |
| the forces arrayed against them are overwhelming, but they are part of the machine just the same | May 07 04:43 | |
| every now and then, a reporter gets handed a hint http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2007/03/enough_about_me/ | May 07 04:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Sends Secret Dossier on Reporter, to Reporter | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 482.68 KB | May 07 04:44 |
| jono should read that one again | May 07 04:44 | |
| ;-) | May 07 04:44 | |
| oh, he's not here tonight | May 07 04:45 | |
| but it's something he needs to keep in mind when dealing with "good people" from Microsoft | May 07 04:45 | |
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| they are just trying to "schmooze" their one night stand | May 07 04:46 | |
| again and again | May 07 04:46 | |
| gn | May 07 04:47 | |
| icelogic | where is my friend monojono | May 07 04:47 |
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| icelogic | its ok i still got seb here | May 07 04:47 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: uhmm yeah | May 07 04:48 |
| icelogic | seb what distro do yo uuse | May 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | depends | May 07 04:49 |
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| icelogic | seb is the fucking master of ice | May 07 04:49 |
| icelogic | irc | May 07 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: hold on doing dents on Identica :) http://identi.ca/sebsebseb | May 07 04:49 |
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| icelogic | seb you own freenode pretty much man | May 07 04:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Have you supported WikiLeaks this month? http://alturl.com/7tszm | May 07 04:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Just started !listening to Wednesday's !TechBytes Episode 43 with @jonobacon in it from Tuesday. !Ubuntu !Linux | May 07 05:01 | |
| icelogic | jono mono i miss you dude | May 07 05:02 |
| icelogic | what desktop do you all use and like better | May 07 05:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Microsoft spies on the media to prevent bad PR http://ur1.ca/43kyk | May 07 05:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Recently started !listening to Wednesday's !TechBytes Episode 43 with @jonobacon in it from Tuesday. !Canonical | May 07 05:08 | |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: he's not in here right now | May 07 05:08 |
| icelogic | roy are you awake sir? | May 07 05:13 |
| icelogic | seb what disro do you use ubuntu? | May 07 05:13 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: uhmm | May 07 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: well a the moment I am really, installed Beta 2, to try out Unity, and the Gnome 3 ppa | May 07 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | ,but installed the Gnome 3 ppa wrongly, so baically got Gnome 2 with Gnome 3 stuff | May 07 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | i'll re install probably/mabye this weekend, another try of the ppa and yeah | May 07 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: Mageia is the distro I am all interested in though | May 07 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and the one I want to do proper community stuff :) | May 07 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | it's just it may not become my main distro untill Mageia 2 which should have Gnome 3 so yeah | May 07 05:16 |
| icelogic | why mageia does it feel better? | May 07 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | it's the new Mandriva fork | May 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | 100% community distro, with a non profit organisation behind it | May 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | and oh it will be great :) | May 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | already quite good in development even for many people who have tried it like that | May 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | the final stable release for Mageia 1 is expected to be on June 1st | May 07 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | http://mageia.org | May 07 05:18 |
| icelogic | if it doesnt have mono , banshee and flash i dont want it | May 07 05:18 |
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| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/group/mageia | May 07 05:18 |
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| sebsebseb | icelogic: you mean if it has those by default? | May 07 05:18 |
| icelogic | yea i am jk | May 07 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | no Mono by default | May 07 05:18 |
| icelogic | i am going to check it out | May 07 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | no Mono apps by default | May 07 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | it might come with Flash by default | May 07 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | not sure about Flash | May 07 05:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 143 million downloads on 2011-05-07 04:17 UTC | May 07 05:19 | |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: so it turns out I have a catch up on Techbytes night | May 07 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: starting to get light here now since this time of year :) | May 07 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | nice time of year | May 07 05:21 |
| icelogic | so mandriva is pretty much dead | May 07 05:21 |
| sebsebseb | nope | May 07 05:22 |
| icelogic | what desktop environment do you use or reccomned | May 07 05:22 |
| sebsebseb | however only one releas per year now | May 07 05:22 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandriva well it's a KDE distro now really, unless | May 07 05:23 |
| sebsebseb | well community will do Gnome | May 07 05:23 |
| icelogic | brb | May 07 05:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66625084349091840 | May 07 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 My article clearly says that when it's about due process and justice, it doesn't matter where one stands on software patents. | May 07 08:57 |
| schestowitz | The mobbyist ducks the actual claim. He's not against patents at all. | May 07 08:57 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66630902507257856 | May 07 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 I don't look at Oracle and Google in terms of who's a "victim" or not. Justice is more important than any such categorizations. | May 07 08:57 |
| schestowitz | What a liar | May 07 08:57 |
| schestowitz | Liar with an agenda | May 07 08:57 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66631072737263616 | May 07 08:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 If courts don't have a due process, it may be helpful here from an anti-swpat point of view, but it won't be good in the long run | May 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | He still dodges saying he's pro-swpats | May 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Whatever pays him | May 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | he was against them when red hat paid him | May 07 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Now I reckon someone else pays him for lobbying | May 07 08:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @q4td “Your mobile phone has more computing power than all of NASA in 1969. NASA launched a man to the moon. We launch a bird into pi ... | May 07 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @maquedam: @lxoliva @tr0n Y no sólo visual. #Trisquel también añade software libre que Ubuntu no tiene. :-) Recientemente unarchiver. | May 07 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Drone Taxi – #MeeGo / #Maemo – #Nokia #N900 http://mge.bz/az #Game #MeeGo #MeeGoFI #Intel #AR #Drone | May 07 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @graziano: @sweet11 no. Gnu is not unix. Ubuntu is a #gnu System. | May 07 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Audiobook Reader for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7241 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Curl It - 2D curling game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7242 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Spritpreise for the N900 - find the cheapest gas station nearby: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7236 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Photographic Light Meter for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7237 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Sync-Time-Now status menu widget for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7238 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NYT carries a story about "stealth" helicopters used in Bin Laden raid. Makes as much sense as a slightly quieter alarm clock. #boystoys | May 07 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah..... Coffee! | May 07 10:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Clipman - Clipboard Manager for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7239 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 10:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo Oculo - web content on your home screen! One of the best homescreen widgets ever made for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7240 | May 07 10:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Even if aircraft invisible to eye and radar. Some radar can detect the air displacement making stealth corporate welfare. | May 07 10:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] NYT story about "stealth" helicopters used in Bin Laden raid makes as much sense as a slightly quieter alarm clock. #boystoys v @satipera | May 07 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @xmppjingle Sony Network Security must be managed by people using ties and suits. No other reason for such a big mess. #peopleinsuits ... | May 07 10:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] SSH & FTP in Thunar is awesome! I love you so much, Thunar! :D | May 07 10:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #SecretSync looks like a good idea http://tinyurl.com/6bllles but it would be better if !Dropbox did this itself, wouldn't it? | May 07 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh 'Connect to Server', standard option in Gnome. what can Thunar add to this? | May 07 10:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I see Lightspark is still progressing http://tinyurl.com/3yhno4x but it has such a long way to go as a dropin replacement | May 07 10:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When #Copyright And #Contracts Can Get In The Way Of Art - http://bit.ly/kTDPk1 wonderful cautionary tale that all artists should read | May 07 10:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lightspark in Launchpad .::. Size~: 24.89 KB | May 07 10:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Thunar's doesn't crash. Natilus' version has been buggered for weeks now in F15. | May 07 10:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Extend !GIMP with High-End Plugins http://tinyurl.com/6fke9ce /by Nathan Willis | May 07 10:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 07 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh didn't have these issues. but more often I revert to sshfs (using fuse) as this seems to be more reliable in general !onlyinchina | May 07 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Plus Thunar now has more features than Nautilus and is about twice as fast and three times as stable. | May 07 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I don't want to mount stuff. Try Thunar, it's *very* reliable and has minimal dependencies too. :) | May 07 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Brian Proffitt worries how the reorganization of the !Mono project will affect !LibreOffice post Attachmate http://tinyurl.com/5t93fdg | May 07 10:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh I do use it. wondered why I did not have on this station just now ;-). use it quite often with snx (nx over ssh) on a kvm instance | May 07 10:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mono Developers Losing Jobs Isn't Good http://tinyurl.com/6xu7a32 /by @bkuhn | May 07 10:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Coffee was made by the gods! :D | May 07 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad :) | May 07 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @graziano @sweet11 no. Gnu is not unix. Ubuntu is a !gnu System. | May 07 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just sucked in an additional 20Mb for Thunar | May 07 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @silner: Extend #GIMP with High-End Plugins http://tinyurl.com/6fke9ce /by Nathan Willis | May 07 10:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 07 10:54 |
| oiaohm | Novell disappearing will do almost nothing to libreoffice. | May 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 07 10:56 |
| schestowitz | which made me surprised about Brian's piece | May 07 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad <3 Thunar :) | May 07 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free as in Freedom 2.0 - http://bit.ly/m2vp4e fascinating rewrite by Stallman of book about himself; #ebook freely available | May 07 10:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU Press | Free Software Foundation Online Shop | Buy GNU t-shirts, books, stickers and stuffed gnu toys .::. Size~: 5.69 KB | May 07 10:58 |
| oiaohm | broffice from brazil. is one of the items merged into libreoffice | May 07 10:58 |
| oiaohm | go-oo was only 1 smallish fragement. | May 07 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh I know. you mention it very often. remotely I usethunar a lot. feel less heavy when used over a connection. pcmanfm has some issues | May 07 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Groupon... And The Difference Between Idea & Execution - http://bit.ly/lIo0vD such a crucial distinction in age of #abundance | May 07 10:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/13292049 | May 07 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I love Thunar's bulk rename. Select a few files, push F2 and marvel.... :D | May 07 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody GNU Mediagoblin Project launches - http://bit.ly/m2F04x "a federated photo sharing site to stand alongside popular service ... | May 07 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh I use basic functionality... but I would still love to have a real Directory Opus-like replacement for Linux. | May 07 11:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad That name is so terrible... oO | May 07 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh didn't know that... :-o | May 07 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I can tell these F/OSS people generally don't play WoW, otherwise you wouldn't name things ".....goblin". Oo | May 07 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh name is terrible... but what do you expect from a GNU project (foo corp) | May 07 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh Mediagoblin is by @cwebber as far as I know | May 07 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fabsh I can tell these F/OSS people generally don't play WoW, otherwise you wouldn't name things ".....goblin". Oo | May 07 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad The I'm guessing @cwebber doesn't play WoW. ;) | May 07 11:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Yeah. Not much. :( | May 07 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is what comes to mind when I read "goblin": http://wow.allvatar.com/rex/files/goblin.jpg (that and funny voices) | May 07 11:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] colleague called me 'lazy' and 'blind' for not using his nasty HTML-enriched 'fetch' function. I rewrote/refactored it using templates! | May 07 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] gobliiins ruined my life | May 07 11:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Preparing two !LO episodes for release and packing the mobile recording gear for my trip to #SambaXP. | May 07 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @gbraad gobliiins ruined my life | May 07 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] started to get the grip of GreaseMonkey. easy way to enrich something when you do not have their direct permission. #bugzilla #outsourcing | May 07 11:28 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/06/canonical_cto_steps_down/ | May 07 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | maybe due to unity backlash? | May 07 11:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hook: #GNU #MediaGoblin launches http://is.gd/xathpg → like decentralised #Flickr etc. (via @glynmoody) → #ownCloud #FreedomBox (RD) | May 07 11:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Source Report: GNU Mediagoblin Project launches .::. Size~: 81.13 KB | May 07 11:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 70 minutes to close of polling. Eagerly waiting for the tsunami. #sgelection | May 07 11:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] ♺ @partipirate: [ ♪ ] La Parisienne chante Wikislande, paradis de l'information http://dai.ly/gBb7FG #Islande #wikileaks #immi !wl | May 07 11:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dailymotion - La Parisienne chante Wikislande, paradis de l'information - une vidéo News & Politics .::. Size~: 59.63 KB | May 07 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “Sé un troll en 21 días”, p37: “demanda que contesten preguntas ya contestadas, y no contestes las preguntas que te hagan” :-D | May 07 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righting Wrongs by Re-writing #Ebooks - http://bit.ly/k7WiLZ a fascinating new development from the ever-innovative Richard #Stallman | May 07 12:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Righting Wrongs by Re-writing #Ebooks - http://bit.ly/k7WiLZ a fascinating new development from the ever-innovative @rms | May 07 12:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Raspberry Pi, David #Braben's $25/£15 USB-stick PC http://is.gd/mmnOEt http://is.gd/THq4nR http://www.raspberrypi.org/ | May 07 12:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Game developer David Braben creates a USB stick PC for $25 – Video Games Reviews, Cheats | Geek.com .::. Size~: 73.28 KB | May 07 12:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I think I have it all packed.... | May 07 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the all-to-predictable #FA decision about #QPR is a political one, surprise surprise | May 07 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] http://www.blender3d.org/ - 500 - Internal Server Error | May 07 12:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 Found | May 07 12:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Google maps and !Chromium #FAIL cannot get the "get directions" to work at all. Works great on Midori though :) | May 07 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] We've just bought a Nescafé Dolce Gusto coffee machine. Yay, caffeine! | May 07 13:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I love !mustard | May 07 13:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3932841/Tech-Comics-The-Internet-1999-vs-2011.htm | May 07 13:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Haha, "XML is like violence - if it doesn’t solve your problems, you are not using enough of it." http://nokogiri.org/ | May 07 13:13 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110507072313920 How do you know a company screwed up badly. It has to change its company name. | May 07 13:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Help fight the illegal ivory trade: http://is.gd/qaHD3R #ivory #elephants #poaching | May 07 13:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Got #Fedora15beta testrig up and running fine. Been writing a couple of articles using it. Still installing more software :) | May 07 13:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to Duisburg. | May 07 13:33 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | May 07 14:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] epic... LOL - Dowry Calculator http://www.dowrycalculator.com/ | May 07 14:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mohanpram: On becoming an #Xfce 4.8 fanboy http://omnsproject.org/?p=1049 | May 07 14:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @graziano: @kuhkatz no. Gnu is not unix. Ubuntu is a #gnu system. | May 07 14:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having a Nescafé Dolce Gusto Latte Macchiato with Honey... the first coffee made on our new coffee machine. | May 07 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @drunkdebugger: N12 "UMay" #Android GingerBread 2.3.4 (GRJ22) - New Gapps (20110503) http://goo.gl/dXp7a #nitdroid #n900 | May 07 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4: #gpodder.net directory integration for #drPodder on #webOS: http://thp.io/2011/webos/drpodder_gpoddernet-integration.patch | May 07 14:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Sociality a Facebook client that aims to include all FB features http://goo.gl/NiGnd http://goo.gl/XBwt7 #N900 @MohammadAG | May 07 14:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen: Sometimes successful build feels amazingly good! #Maemo #Nelisquare http://twitpic.com/4uhrdj | May 07 14:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @kristianpaul !nanonote hack on #slashdot http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/05/07/1215246/Micro-SD-Card-Slot-Abused-As-VGA-Port | May 07 14:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Owens: Negative Community Reaction Development http://goo.gl/vSX4T !ubuntu !unity | May 07 14:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Conclusion: #Zyrtec (Cetirizine HCl) is #ineffective | May 07 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My 6 hour tour of duty as a polling agent: http://wp.me/pj2fj-ry #sgelection | May 07 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh ffs. *another* of my friends upgaded to 11.04 and has problems with #unity. come on, !u, setting it by default even for upgraders?! #fail | May 07 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I don't have the time nor inclination to fix !u's dumb decisions. tell me please, !lazyweb, how do I revert to "classical desktop" | May 07 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I mean, come on! WHY CAN'T WE HAVE NICE EVOLUTIONARY CHANGES instead of revolutions that take users aback (the bad way), !u? | May 07 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @rysiek log out and change session, log back in | May 07 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] hey !lazyweb, anobody managed to connect !choqok or !identica to/with #diaspora? | May 07 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 144 million downloads on 2011-05-07 14:37 UTC | May 07 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Enhanced BusyBox Shell (BusyBox-Power) for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7243 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Sociality - the most complete Facebook client for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7244 #N900 #Maemo | May 07 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] why is CNA not reporting the winning of Hougang by WP? #sgelection | May 07 15:51 | |
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| schestowitz | Earlier today all the Sun blogs got oraclewashed: http://blogs.oracle.com/webmink/entry/blog_moved_final_reminder http://blogs.oracle.com/webmink/entry/blog_moved_final_reminder http://blogs.oracle.com/jonathan/entry/where_life_takes_me_next they never worked for Oracle. | May 07 15:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !miners We have a new map including night and cave maps, just generated: http://alain.sixgun.org/map | May 07 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.oracle.com/jonathan/entry/will_java_be_the_world | May 07 15:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.oracle.com/dancer/entry/leaving_sun_and_going_to | May 07 15:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Listening to old episodes of !tclp while mowing lawn (at least I don't self-identify as #bourgeois @bkuhn ) | May 07 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] new blog post, beginning of my gnome 3 review https://tekkenfreak3.wordpress.com/ | May 07 16:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @rysiek: @vanden I will prolly recommend #mint from now on. the power of #ubuntu community without #canonical's decisions... ;) | May 07 16:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @rysiek: @vanden I will prolly recommend #mint from now on. the power of #ubuntu community without #canonical's decisions... ;) | May 07 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] sitting in the backgarden with my netbook.......waiting for !drwho at 6pm. | May 07 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @tr0n: Transmitiendo por #radiognu la segunda jornada del #CNSL7 en Anzoátegui. Conéctate y corre la voz http://is.gd/fyUqWE | May 07 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @rysiek Mint has several editions, including a #KDE one | May 07 16:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Give it another week and most people will have forgotten what the !PSN is. Sony can have a launch party! | May 07 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] finally cna reports on the recount #sgelection | May 07 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] reports that Aljunied has gone to WP! Need reconfirmation. Love this. Looks like LHL's plan to oust GY has worked. #sgelection #sgelections | May 07 16:18 | |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - look what I got him to say: "@ender2070 I don't support patent trolls because I'd like the law to be changed so no one would have any more software patents to assert." http://twitter.com/#!/FOSSpatents/status/66767132586807297 | May 07 16:20 |
| Ender2070 | http://twitter.com/#!/ender2070/status/66884540509069312 | May 07 16:21 |
| schestowitz | fair enough | May 07 16:21 |
| schestowitz | But.. | May 07 16:21 |
| Ender2070 | look what I said after | May 07 16:21 |
| schestowitz | He has no problem with companies suing Linux | May 07 16:21 |
| Ender2070 | "For someone with such a belief system - its hypocritical to hope Oracle gets to assert more patents against #Google" | May 07 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Yes, exactly | May 07 16:22 |
| schestowitz | He's a ***wit | May 07 16:22 |
| schestowitz | And even the FFII doesn't breathe his way | May 07 16:22 |
| Ender2070 | the article I read, he was complaining that oracle was only being allowed 3 and were trying to fight for more patent claims | May 07 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Don't try to make sense of it | May 07 16:23 |
| schestowitz | The only sense it must make to Florian is his wallet's | May 07 16:23 |
| Ender2070 | I just exposed him as a hypocrite | May 07 16:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Installed my own statusnet called Lxhica :P Now waiting for my Twitter app to be approved. | May 07 16:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] getting reports that Aljunied is safely with WP. Yay! #sgelection | May 07 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lxhica lol! http://lxhica.richs-lxh.com/ Great to finally have a statusnet site to play with. Anybody know how to bridge to identi.ca? | May 07 16:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Filed Fedora Bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702836 - minor issue, compiler version problems :) | May 07 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Meanwhile, back to writing that article which is a week late #amwriting | May 07 16:49 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hello | May 07 16:51 |
| _GoblinNETBOOK | hi | May 07 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Carter: !UDS for !Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) in #Budapest http://goo.gl/CUzE4 | May 07 16:53 | |
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| JordiGH | schestowitz: sup | May 07 16:57 |
| JordiGH | schestowitz: I'm with Quadrescence IRL right now. | May 07 16:57 |
| JordiGH | He says you know Octave. | May 07 16:57 |
| GoForbes28 | hi _Golbin | May 07 16:58 |
| GoForbes28 | hi _Goblin | May 07 16:58 |
| GoForbes28 | hi ThistleWeb | May 07 16:58 |
| _GoblinNETBOOK | :) | May 07 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] One hour to !drwho and counting! | May 07 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] AntiX looks like a nice little distro.....may give it a run.... | May 07 17:04 | |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | May 07 17:06 |
| GoForbes28 | so what's going on? | May 07 17:11 |
| ThistleWeb | just tweaking my new mint xfce install on the netbook | May 07 17:16 |
| ThistleWeb | xfce 4.8 | May 07 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, it seems that PAP's leadership has thrown GY under the bus. Uhgrateful. But, YAY! to WP in winning Hougang & Aljunied! #sgelection | May 07 17:16 | |
| ThistleWeb | thunars network browsing is pretty sweet | May 07 17:16 |
| GoForbes28 | so you went with Mint in the end? | May 07 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Radin Mas is yet another gerrymandered constituency. Hopefully WP can stop all this. #sgelection | May 07 17:19 | |
| ThistleWeb | yeah debian mint xfce | May 07 17:20 |
| ThistleWeb | main thing was a rolling xfce, with xfce 4.8, as soon as I knew 4.8 was in the testing repos, I was sold | May 07 17:21 |
| ThistleWeb | still got to fix firefox 4 yet, but that's easy enough | May 07 17:21 |
| ThistleWeb | the whole iceweasel / icedove thing annoys me | May 07 17:21 |
| GoForbes28 | What exactly is the benefit of the mint part? | May 07 17:23 |
| ThistleWeb | all of the codecs | May 07 17:23 |
| ThistleWeb | it feels snappier too | May 07 17:23 |
| GoForbes28 | thistleweb: Who need codecs when you can have VLC? :P | May 07 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] If LHL's AMK GRC only wins narrowly, he should resign, shouldn't he? #sgelection | May 07 17:24 | |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, maybe if I start using vlc as my main player I'd agree | May 07 17:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Are the codecs proprietary? | May 07 17:25 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah :( | May 07 17:25 |
| ThistleWeb | or licenced at least, cant legally be distributed in the US | May 07 17:25 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm pretty sure that most free codecs out there work with almost all formats now? | May 07 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, !lazyweb, here's a hard one: how to go at design-by-contract (http://ur1.ca/43pjj) in JavaScript (no interfaces, no classes)? !js | May 07 17:26 | |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: Licensed or simply blocked by DMCA/software patents? | May 07 17:26 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe, I install them anyway along with smplayer, although that's deprecated to become umplayer | May 07 17:27 |
| ThistleWeb | umplayer is very nice btw | May 07 17:29 |
| GoForbes28 | noted | May 07 17:30 |
| GoForbes28 | I've been experimenting with Debian Testing for some days now | May 07 17:30 |
| ThistleWeb | umplayer isn't in the repos, I'm installing a deb | May 07 17:31 |
| ThistleWeb | it's great for youtube | May 07 17:31 |
| ThistleWeb | http://www.umplayer.com/ | May 07 17:31 |
| GoForbes28 | Figured out how to make Gnash work | May 07 17:31 |
| GoForbes28 | But apparently it will work by default with Firefox 4.0 | May 07 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that Moulmein/Kallang has gone to PAP. That team needs a biology 101 lecture - mushrooms/deadwood. #sgelection | May 07 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Cool, works :) | May 07 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra :( | May 07 17:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that WP lost Joo Chiat. Narrowest of margins. #sgelection | May 07 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Perhaps Ms Tin Pei Lin should be swapped out for GY in Marine Parade since GCT is rooting for him. #sgelection | May 07 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Joo Chiat going to PAP with the narrowest of margins is disappointing considering how many votes were spoilt! Every vote counts! #sgelection | May 07 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Micro-SD Card Slot Abused As VGA-Port http://is.gd/Mx0Or5 | May 07 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/06/ubuntu_cloud_man_leaves_canonical/ | May 07 17:54 |
| schestowitz | unity might have something to do with the lot | May 07 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Swap out Tin Pei Lin with George Yeo. #sgelection | May 07 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Congratulations Ms Nicole Seah on your amazing efforts. You and your team has done very well. #sgelection | May 07 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay to WP in retaining Hougang! Well done. #sgelection | May 07 17:58 | |
| Ender2070 | I wanted to make a joke about unity on the show but oh well | May 07 17:58 |
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| Ender2070 | wanted to point out the irony in the name Unity | May 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | why am I being pulled into this? https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/66888742618677248 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/66889921620738050 | May 07 17:58 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 Why aren't you up in arms over Google and Mozilla sharing a lawyer who CAMPAIGNS FOR software patents? cc: @schestowitz | May 07 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 cc: @schestowitz Look at this: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/40676.html Google/Mozilla lawyer says sw patents BETTER than (c) | May 07 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: it did not even unite the staff | May 07 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Let alone users or other distros | May 07 17:59 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | May 07 17:59 |
| Ender2070 | its quite amusing | May 07 17:59 |
| Ender2070 | its the opposite of what it actually does | May 07 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Could be worse | May 07 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Could be call Project k+umbayah | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I wish Microsoft tries a Unity | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | They sort of did.. with Vista | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | And Ribbon | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Office and Windows sales have declined since | May 07 18:00 |
| GoForbes28 | Windows 8 seems to be going in that direction | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | or in 2007 ish | May 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: it'll lose an ARM | May 07 18:01 |
| GoForbes28 | Dum-dum chisssh | May 07 18:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @richslxh WTF! When did V.A.T in the UK go up to 20%!? | May 07 18:03 | |
| Ender2070 | http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/beyond-bin-laden/p24884 <- CFR announced perpetual war | May 07 18:06 |
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| Ender2070 | "The killing of Osama bin Laden by United States special forces constitutes a significant victory over global terrorism. But it is a milestone, not a turning point, in what remains an ongoing struggle with no foreseeable end." | May 07 18:07 |
| Ender2070 | no forseeable end | May 07 18:07 |
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| icelogic | whats up goblin | May 07 18:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] and none of the west coast grc pap blokes even visited my place. atleast the reform party did. #sgelection | May 07 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Phew.... Podcast out, now I'm off to a birthday party enjoying the rest of this awesome weather. | May 07 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why does CNA feature the loser from Hougang and not the others who lost! Biased as usual. #sgelection | May 07 18:19 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: So what's up with today's show? | May 07 18:20 |
| gnufreex | Ender2070: It is more like "we poked the bee hive" | May 07 18:20 |
| Ender2070 | eh? | May 07 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Ms Tin riding the coat tails of GCT shows that quoting a friend: "Nice pay raise for her. Nepotism rules." #sgelection | May 07 18:23 | |
| Ender2070 | ohh on the CFR | May 07 18:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Excellent victory speech by WP's Yaw Shin Leong in winning Hougang. Well done! #sgelection | May 07 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks editor ranks 3rd in WIRED’s top 100 Britain's digital power list http://is.gd/wQuOc5 | http://is.gd/ImFZvA | May 07 18:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that LHL wins. #sgelection. But good show, Reform Party! | May 07 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Does LHL live in Ang Mo Kio? i don't think so. #sgelection | May 07 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Todays tip - open /etc/mime.types ,, know mimetypes #linux #fyi | May 07 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @glynmoody Free as in Freedom 2.0 - http://bit.ly/m2vp4e fascinating rewrite by Stallman of book about himself; #ebook freely available | May 07 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Not sure that LHL got a better margin. The borders were gerrymandered. #sgelection | May 07 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] WKS is humbled? How did Mas Selamat escape? #sgelection | May 07 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol. Tin Pei Ling's Resignation facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tin-Pei-Lings-Resignation/171508196235723?sk=wall #sgelection | May 07 18:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] East Coast grc only wins with 53.9%. poor showing. #sgelection | May 07 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast. Sadly, Ace is not in the book. http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110507 #sip_and_click | May 07 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The PAP victory speeches are so bland and tired. The tiger will not change their stripes. But let's see. #sgelection | May 07 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] what's taking aljunied and holland-bt results from being released? #sgelection | May 07 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Abdullah Khadr wins extradition appeal http://alturl.com/scvri | May 07 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Labour Chief" is heavy weight as opposed to the Transport Minister? #sgelection | May 07 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I doubt LHL will hold a press conference after all results are in. He looked sleepy on TV. #sgelection | May 07 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Mr Chiam See Tong - I salute you sir for your dedication to serve people. #sgelection | May 07 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think the percentages being put out by CNA are wrong. Holland/BT is not 60%, it is 58%. #sgelection | May 07 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange warned about WSJ situation months ago. Whistleblowers, like writers, need agents http://is.gd/TOOJzx | May 07 19:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] AWESOME! WP. 72165 votes in your favour vs 59732 for the PAP. Well done. Two ministers are out! Yay! #sgelection | May 07 19:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Aljunied going to WP has made my day. #sgelection | May 07 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] George - you have a regret. Your party pushed you under the bus. #sgelection | May 07 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] CNA show the winning Aljunied team from WP. GY is history. #sgelection | May 07 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It is FORMER minister, my CNA announcer. #sgelection | May 07 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am proud of you fellow Singaporeans of Aljunied. You've considered Singapore future and voted well! #sgelection | May 07 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Ole, ole, ole. Boleh, Boleh, Boleh! WP! #sgelection | May 07 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now for a First World Parliament! FInally. I wish Dad was around to see this. #sgelection | May 07 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Among its many other capabilities, the iPad makes for a great $5 transistor radio... | May 07 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Please choose an advertisement or one will be chosen for you." | May 07 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] George Yeo for UN Secretary General. #sgelection | May 07 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT "I'm happy tt Tin Pei Ling in govt. Now everyone truly represented. Even the intellectually disabled #sgelections" Bwahahahahahaha! | May 07 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | electiomflood | May 07 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] How will the feds #FBI crack bin Laden's hard drives?”: http://goo.gl/Qw3d5 !lo | May 07 19:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Singaporeans have proven that we are a force for change. Singapore Boleh. Singaporeans Boleh. #sgelection | May 07 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wonder what LKY is thinking right now. Aljunied gave him the FINGER. #sgelection | May 07 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu User: !Ubuntu Developer Summit ( !UDS ): Remote Participation http://goo.gl/ggffI | May 07 19:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Groklaw: SCO Officially Changes Its Name to TSG - http://is.gd/nRLUaG #SCO #legal #bankruptcy #unix #linux #novell #ibm #thieves | May 07 19:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Intel-TriGate-and-ARM-processor-market-share/?kc=rss | May 07 19:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @wayneborean Groklaw: SCO Officially Changes Its Name to TSG - http://is.gd/nRLUaG #SCO #legal #bankruptcy #unix #linux #novell #ibm ... | May 07 19:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] apt-clone: a cli app that can be used to clone the packages state of a system and restore it on another system http://goo.gl/0iID6 !u | May 07 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Why does counting 17K+ votes in Potong Pasir is taking so long? #sgelection | May 07 19:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looks like the overall vote for PAP is hovering at 60%. Drop of 6%. That can only be good for all of us. #sgelection | May 07 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Unfair that Mrs Chiam loses Potong Pasir. All those who spoiled their votes need to be shot! #sgelection | May 07 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] will the votes from overseas singaporeans help Mrs Chiam? #sgelection | May 07 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Potong Pasir result a lesson on the value of a vote. People who spoil it don't deserve the vote. #sgelection | May 07 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think it is time to call it a night. No interest in listening to any PAP press conference. There'll not be any sincerity. #sgelection | May 07 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://madhatter.ca/2011/04/17/the-rebirth-of-encyclopedia-dramatica/ | May 07 20:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Yeahhh! sparkleshare setup done. Maybe just maybe, we can say goodbye to dropbox | May 07 20:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @toros apt-clone: a cli app that can be used to clone the packages state of a system and restore it on another system http://goo.gl/0 ... | May 07 20:25 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Can I give you a test call? | May 07 20:32 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: the wife is going to bed early so Im trying the netbook with my headset on wifi | May 07 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good evening !identiverse :) | May 07 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I still haven't really got this !identicurse on Windows thing right. Wondering if it's an XP issue, or if power shell would help? | May 07 20:41 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: When you encode the show this ep, can you do a little less aggressive noise reduction....my voice is distorting on the latest ep | May 07 20:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 211 dents! | May 07 20:48 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: thistleweb: ready to go very shortly if you two are | May 07 20:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I guess | May 07 20:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I need a rat! http://goo.gl/ldPOp | May 07 20:51 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: the one made out of the video? | May 07 20:55 |
| schestowitz | or 43? | May 07 20:55 |
| _Goblin | 43 I thought | May 07 20:55 |
| _Goblin | shall I ring? | May 07 20:55 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 07 20:55 |
| ThistleWeb | ready when you two are | May 07 20:55 |
| _Goblin | exellent | May 07 20:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ParanoidAndroid live on Jools Holland by the mighty #Radiohead what a performance, what a choon #nuffsaid | May 07 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ParanoidAndroid live on Jools Holland by the mighty #Radiohead what a performance, what a choon #nuffsaid http://youtu.be/m_mMzOQpe0I | May 07 21:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] One small steps for devs, one giant kick in the nuts for Sony Corp. - http://gitbrew.org/otheros/ #ps3 | May 07 21:28 | |
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| icelogic | roy and sub you guys here? | May 07 21:38 |
| icelogic | seb | May 07 21:38 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: I am, but | May 07 21:38 |
| sebsebseb | they are recording a new Techbytes Episode I Think | May 07 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | we arw | May 07 21:39 |
| icelogic | ok cool | May 07 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | are* | May 07 21:39 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: maybe you should join Roy and me and so on, on http://identi.ca as well | May 07 21:39 |
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| icelogic | i am on identica bro | May 07 21:39 |
| icelogic | http://identica.com/icelogic | May 07 21:40 |
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| icelogic | http://identi.ca/icelogic | May 07 21:40 |
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| sebsebseb | icelogic: oh right you have had an account for a while, but not really been using it | May 07 21:41 |
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| icelogic | yea i will start though | May 07 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: you should subscribe to some more people, and more groups, and start messaging here and there, and then it will be better | May 07 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | group recommendations? http://identi.ca/linux | May 07 21:42 |
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| sebsebseb | http//identi.ca/group/techbytes | May 07 21:42 |
| icelogic | what do you think about fedora vs ubuntu seb | May 07 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/group/techbytes | May 07 21:42 |
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| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/group/identiverse | May 07 21:42 |
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| sebsebseb | icelogic: plus for whatever distro or distros your running, or interested in I guess, and yeah :) | May 07 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm Fedora may be the second most used Desktp Linux distro right now, because of how it's so close to upstream Gnome, but well | May 07 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | it's not really that popular with new users I guess, and it's not really as aimed at them, as Ubuntu and Linux Mint are | May 07 21:43 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandriva and PC Linux OS really as well, and of course Mageia when it comes out with the 1st stable final release on June 1st probably :) | May 07 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/group/mageia | May 07 21:44 |
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| sebsebseb | icelogic: Anyway Mageia will probably become one of the most populer Desktop Linux distro's in a year or two or something like that. | May 07 21:45 |
| sebsebseb | http://mageia.org | May 07 21:45 |
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| sebsebseb | icelogic: fork of Mandriva, will be a very good distro, oh I know :) | May 07 21:45 |
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| sebsebseb | 100% community distro, non profit organisation behind it, I am glad I am getting more involved with it's community :) | May 07 21:45 |
| icelogic | cool | May 07 21:46 |
| icelogic | i did check it out | May 07 21:46 |
| icelogic | it looks to be promising | May 07 21:46 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: sure and it has nearly the same amount of people in it's main channel dev channel as the Mandriva channel, because a lot of the people who are behind Mandriva, are also behind Mageia, as in interested in it | May 07 21:47 |
| icelogic | seb whats your identica again i will add your a knowledgable dude | May 07 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and I think this is what we need, another distro to hopefuly compete properly against Ubuntu and Fedora and so on, right now I don't see any of the current distro's that have stable final releases, doing this | May 07 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | oh and ideally a distro that doesn't have a version that is based on Ubuntu, so Linux Mint is out for this | May 07 21:47 |
| icelogic | what about debian? | May 07 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and as Jono Bacon basically said in that interview he did for Techbytes. traddiontally distro's take stuff from upstream and make a distro, and we still do that, but also good we are doing our own stuff, good to have Unity to stir things up a bit. ok he didn't quite say it like this, but that's the general idea | May 07 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | Debian hmm | May 07 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | nah Debian isn't for new users really | May 07 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | plus that's something else I want another distro that will of course also compete properly against Debian, and yeah Mageia may become just that :) | May 07 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: change takes time | May 07 21:50 |
| icelogic | i see you want somthing rpm based? | May 07 21:50 |
| sebsebseb | and distro's take time to build and all that, and their communities, but oh yes, I think after enough time, this Mageia will be well rather amazing really | May 07 21:50 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: no I don't really care if a distro uses DEB or RPM or whatever, as long as I can install the software I want in it :) | May 07 21:50 |
| icelogic | cool | May 07 21:50 |
| icelogic | i'll use it to so we can be mageia brothers and hack together | May 07 21:52 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: also I think being number one on the Desktop isn' going to always be a good thing | May 07 21:52 |
| sebsebseb | ,because being number one wil mean people who aren't that nice, will come wanting help at times and such | May 07 21:52 |
| sebsebseb | and oh I know, from helping out loads before in that big Ubuntu channel and that | May 07 21:52 |
| icelogic | yea with magia we dont have to help them we will rape the noobs | May 07 21:53 |
| icelogic | jk | May 07 21:53 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: it may not become my main distro until Mageia 2 though, because uhmm well first version is a re branded Mandriva 2011, so no Gnome 3. altough I haven't tried out, the latest Gnome SHell's, but from what I seen I may not be that keen. ,but yeah going to try out some how that, and uhmm, wel yeah possibily Mageia 1 soon after as main distro on ehre don't know yet | May 07 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | may put it on, and yeah run Gnome 2 in it here and there and KDE of course, and uhmm well this new desktop envrionment I found out about even. Not sure, but right now I am a bit of a distro hopper really. | May 07 21:54 |
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| sebsebseb | whilst the other computer stays Mandriva 2010.2 no problem, and it may untill it runs out of support even or whatever | May 07 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and I like the idea of being invovled with a new distro that I know is going to be pretty good, from the beginning, and well that's what I have done here really, well I found out about the fork a bit later on than others when it was announced, but yeah. | May 07 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My lxhica status.net install has only been open a day and it has already been spammed to f*ck. I hate spammers, I want them all dead, now! | May 07 21:56 | |
| icelogic | seb can i email you on identica? | May 07 21:57 |
| icelogic | i havent used it before | May 07 21:57 |
| icelogic | i dont really knwo what it can do besides tweet | May 07 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | and I think I want both schestowitz and _Goblin to interview me for Techbytes when I go on, and well this is what I want to talk about, why I want to be more properly invovled in the Mageia community, and my distros experiences. Everyone has their Desktop Linux story, I want to share mine on the show. | May 07 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | plus as schestowitz knows and probably _Goblin as well, I been arrangging it so that one of the founders comes on to chat about Mageia as well, and probably soonish after the Mageia 1 release in June, so yeah :) | May 07 21:57 |
| icelogic | cool | May 07 21:58 |
| icelogic | excellent i look forward to it | May 07 21:58 |
| icelogic | i will use mageia and together we will rule the galazy as father and son | May 07 21:59 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that will be another episode, not with me, or maybe I might be on that as well hmm probably not though. anyway need to chat to the guy about that again later on as well of course, but yeah he's still up for it :) | May 07 21:59 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: I did loads of IRC support and stuff like that for Ubuntu, now I want to do something proper when it comes to a Linux distro that I know is good and all that, and when Mageia got announced back in September, I thought well, ok then, i'll get invovled with that then | May 07 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | I mean I had thought about maybe contributing to Mandriva some how, more properly | May 07 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | before that | May 07 22:00 |
| icelogic | cool | May 07 22:00 |
| icelogic | man | May 07 22:00 |
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| icelogic | who do i email you or someone else on identica?> | May 07 22:01 |
| icelogic | if i dont want to tweet | May 07 22:01 |
| icelogic | how | May 07 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and I started moving away from Ubuntu properly towards the end of 2009, but wanted to soon after hte 9.04 release really, but Fedora 11, woudn't install and yeah, the installer crashed, and told me it was probably a bug and to report, but I didn't | May 07 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: uh you got Twitter as well? | May 07 22:01 |
| icelogic | no just identica | May 07 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: ok great :) | May 07 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: well then | May 07 22:02 |
| icelogic | i want to send emails not tweets | May 07 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | they are called dents on Identica | May 07 22:02 |
| icelogic | ok lol | May 07 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | and like Twitter 140 characters only including names | May 07 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | you can message someone by doing @username | May 07 22:02 |
| icelogic | can i send roy a personal dent on identica | May 07 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | and you can message everyone subscribed to you, and | May 07 22:03 |
| sebsebseb | anyone else who may see it, by not doing the @usrname, just a normal message | May 07 22:03 |
| sebsebseb | and you can message gropus when subscribed to them with for example !identiverse | May 07 22:03 |
| icelogic | ok can i test it on you? | May 07 22:03 |
| sebsebseb | and when you reply to people, your meant to use the reply button on the site, or in a client, so that it also goes in context | May 07 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | when you got a dent that has been properly replied to, you get this like in context link, underneath the dent. which you click on for the context | May 07 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[icelogic/@icelogic] @sebsebseb test | May 07 22:05 | |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: and don't redent / repeate messages using the site button, because that sucks really | May 07 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | do a reply, and then do for example RD @sebsebseb my message | May 07 22:05 |
| icelogic | lol fail everyone got it lol | May 07 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | or you can use a symbol, well clients have this like symbol, but even then when I was recently explaining to someone on the site about this | May 07 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | this guy was like to me, the symbol is better, hmm maybe not quite. at least with RD makes it clear that only really using identica :) where as with the symbol well no | May 07 22:06 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: also this is a great group to be in, for those not on Twitter or that quit it :) http://identi.ca/group/twitter | May 07 22:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] why doesn't !firefox 4 honour the column-break-before:always setting?.. | May 07 22:08 | |
| icelogic | did it work lol | May 07 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[icelogic/@icelogic] @sebsebseb test2 | May 07 22:10 | |
| icelogic | lol fail again | May 07 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | no not failing | May 07 22:10 |
| icelogic | it is going to everyone | May 07 22:10 |
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| icelogic | not just you | May 07 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: it's aimed at me | May 07 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | goes in my replies | May 07 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | ,but other people can see it as well | May 07 22:11 |
| icelogic | the mac_goblin has left us | May 07 22:11 |
| icelogic | yea i dont want to let everyone know when i email roy that i think goblin is a mac lover | May 07 22:11 |
| icelogic | thats why i wanted it to be private | May 07 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: you can send private messages on there as in direct messages | May 07 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | ,but even for that | May 07 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | only 140 characters | May 07 22:12 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: also this channel is publically logged remember | May 07 22:12 |
| icelogic | 140 charaters is cool i just dont want mono-jono and mac_goblin to hate me if i dent thats why i want to send a private message to roy | May 07 22:13 |
| icelogic | ok thats right lol | May 07 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: more like PS3 _goblin Tim | May 07 22:13 |
| sebsebseb | and Blueray | May 07 22:13 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:14 |
| icelogic | is tim and goblin the dame guy | May 07 22:14 |
| icelogic | same | May 07 22:14 |
| icelogic | who is that scottish sounding guy on there | May 07 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @icelogic: Yep got it! | May 07 22:15 | |
| icelogic | lol fail it sent to everyone | May 07 22:15 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: uh now I sent to wrong person that message ah! | May 07 22:15 |
| sebsebseb | oh well can sort that out | May 07 22:15 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:15 |
| sebsebseb | I sent a Yep got it! message to wrong person some how | May 07 22:15 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:15 |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic: that'd be me, the Scot on techbyte | May 07 22:17 |
| ThistleWeb | s* | May 07 22:17 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ btw | May 07 22:17 |
| icelogic | thistle web you sound cool on there like william wallace | May 07 22:19 |
| ThistleWeb | lol ty | May 07 22:19 |
| *sebsebseb Tends to find the Roy and Tim only episodes more boring, to be honest | May 07 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @icelogic: Yep got it! | May 07 22:20 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Im tethered.....o2 has gone down | May 07 22:23 |
| _Goblin | thistleweb: as above | May 07 22:23 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, o2, nuff said | May 07 22:23 |
| _Goblin | suddenly stopped.... | May 07 22:23 |
| _Goblin | checked everything | May 07 22:23 |
| _Goblin | don't know what the issue is but its not my end | May 07 22:23 |
| _Goblin | Just finish the show yourselves.....(if you are still recording | May 07 22:24 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I think you missed it, but icelogic has a name for you it seems :D | May 07 22:24 |
| _Goblin | whats that? | May 07 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: come on don't be shy LOL | May 07 22:25 |
| _Goblin | the anticipation is overwhelming.... | May 07 22:26 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 07 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | mono-jono and mac_goblin | May 07 22:27 |
| _Goblin | mac? | May 07 22:27 |
| ThistleWeb | shows over | May 07 22:27 |
| _Goblin | sorry folks... | May 07 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | 2:13] <sebsebseb> icelogic: more like PS3 _goblin Tim | May 07 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | [22:13] <sebsebseb> and Blueray | May 07 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | that was 22 above by the way not 2 | May 07 22:27 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: you wanna hear what these guys were saying about you ;P | May 07 22:28 |
| _Goblin | I can imagine | May 07 22:28 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 07 22:28 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: heh | May 07 22:28 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: how come I'm Mac? | May 07 22:28 |
| _Goblin | my wife owns a mac though | May 07 22:28 |
| _Goblin | having said that Ive only spent collectively about 6 hours on it. | May 07 22:28 |
| icelogic | your the man of the house your responsibel | May 07 22:28 |
| icelogic | jk | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | brb eating | May 07 22:29 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I don't know, find out from icelogic I guess, really your PS3 and Blueray _Goblin / Tim / openbytes | May 07 22:29 |
| ThistleWeb | nowt wrong with macs every now and again, although I don't visit macdonadls much myself | May 07 22:29 |
| _Goblin | icelogic: If you knew my wife, you'd know who runs our house | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | right | May 07 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah sounds like it when you say that, from some of the shows | May 07 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | when you mentino her | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | thistle i am eating mac donalds too | May 07 22:29 |
| ThistleWeb | mac lover | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | thats the only mac allowed in my house | May 07 22:29 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:29 |
| _Goblin | I get the look from the wife which says "Get off the computer" | May 07 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: yeah _Goblin gets told by his wife what to do a lot, it seems | May 07 22:30 |
| icelogic | here in teh usa we spank our women on the ass | May 07 22:30 |
| icelogic | jk brb | May 07 22:30 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 07 22:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, beer and C.S.I, night !identiverse :) | May 07 22:31 | |
| ThistleWeb | your women have their own dnkeys? | May 07 22:31 |
| ThistleWeb | donkeys* | May 07 22:31 |
| ThistleWeb | how posh | May 07 22:31 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:31 |
| icelogic | thistle whats you identica i want to add you man | May 07 22:32 |
| ThistleWeb | tip for IRC btw, type the 1st few letters of someones nick and hit the TAB key, it autocompletes | May 07 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @icelogic: Got it! | May 07 22:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Brahms | May 07 22:33 | |
| icelogic | ok cool thanks | May 07 22:33 |
| ThistleWeb | saves you typing it, and ensures it triggers their alert | May 07 22:33 |
| ThistleWeb | so they know you're talking to them | May 07 22:33 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb you sure you want to tell people about that, they may start highlighting you to much for your liking! | May 07 22:33 |
| MinceR | :> | May 07 22:33 |
| ThistleWeb | no that's your abuse of tab complete, nowt to do with the function itself | May 07 22:34 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | May 07 22:34 |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic: my nick is the same ThistleWeb | May 07 22:36 |
| ThistleWeb | mono jacon? | May 07 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Damn O2, let me down mid show....lucky T-Mobile and tethering atleast allowed me to stay online. !techbytes | May 07 22:38 | |
| _Goblin | Gnublin | May 07 22:38 |
| icelogic | gnublin is a cool name | May 07 22:39 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:39 |
| icelogic | lol mono jacon | May 07 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I have to give a shout out to !tmobile Yet again stepped in to help with the shortcomings of !O2 . | May 07 22:40 | |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic: usually on identica it's an @username which directs it to that person but it's still public ofr others to join in, DMs are only seen by that user | May 07 22:40 |
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| icelogic | seb for me to pm you you have to add me too | May 07 22:40 |
| MinceR | Dungeon Masters! | May 07 22:40 |
| *ThistleWeb shudders | May 07 22:40 | |
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| icelogic | thistle web me and you and going to have to go in to the adult web business together lol thats why i'll have to pm you | May 07 22:40 |
| icelogic | jk | May 07 22:41 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | May 07 22:41 |
| ThistleWeb | listened to that ep did ya? | May 07 22:41 |
| icelogic | mono-ey | May 07 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Politicians answer to all that ails you is growth. Can anyone see problems with this medicine? #economics | May 07 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @openbytes: I have to give a shout out to !tmobile Yet again stepped in to help with the shortcomings of !O2 . | May 07 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Atlantic Southeast AIrlines remind us why 9/11 happened http://ur1.ca/43rux | May 07 22:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Atlantic Southeast Airlines kicks Muslims off flight - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 138.76 KB | May 07 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: add yourself into more groups, and I suggested some above :) | May 07 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: also I remember last night or whenever it was I was saying about your name, Oz and how it can mean Australlia, but now I reemmber there was a character in Buffy The Vampire Slayer called Oz | May 07 22:42 |
| icelogic | yea lol you probably could make some money look how much you porn has made form community submitted vids they are a bilion dallar industry | May 07 22:42 |
| ThistleWeb | it's very complex | May 07 22:43 |
| icelogic | women are | May 07 22:44 |
| ThistleWeb | it's not an easy "insert here to make a fortune" area is what I meant | May 07 22:45 |
| icelogic | i know lol but it would be funny to have you own adult site though | May 07 22:45 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a lot of legal hassle, not worth it for new players | May 07 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] GDFW I am going to have burn a CD :( | May 07 22:46 | |
| icelogic | just post vids and pics what leagal hassles | May 07 22:47 |
| icelogic | its not that hard lol | May 07 22:47 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah you might be praying for that when you find yourself spending years in a cell with Big Bubba who has "needs", praying that "it's not that hard" | May 07 22:48 |
| _Goblin | thistleweb: did you cover any other topics on the show (im doing the show notes) | May 07 22:50 |
| ThistleWeb | not really | May 07 22:50 |
| ThistleWeb | kinda off topic over a few subjects but it kinda petered out till roy closed the show | May 07 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @psquid: @safetycopy Commit early, commit often! ...actually no, that's terrible marriage advice. | May 07 22:51 | |
| icelogic | thistle lol laws must be diff where you are | May 07 22:53 |
| icelogic | the net is free here in the us as far as i know | May 07 22:53 |
| icelogic | you can post what ever you want | May 07 22:53 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl yeah you keep believing that | May 07 22:53 |
| icelogic | even if its adult content | May 07 22:53 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 22:53 |
| ThistleWeb | don't put your ass on that line, it'll hurt | May 07 22:54 |
| ThistleWeb | the US is one of the countries you HAVE to ensure you stay legal with | May 07 22:54 |
| cubezzz | a lot of hosts don't allow adult content | May 07 22:54 |
| ThistleWeb | which means a whole heap of practices | May 07 22:54 |
| ThistleWeb | yep | May 07 22:54 |
| ThistleWeb | not only hosts | May 07 22:55 |
| ThistleWeb | payment providers too | May 07 22:56 |
| icelogic | godaddy lets you post adult contect and pay pal | May 07 22:56 |
| ThistleWeb | the conservative lobby want to outlaw ALL adult content, every part of the chain | May 07 22:57 |
| cubezzz | paypal doesn't allow payment for adult content | May 07 22:57 |
| icelogic | they want to but with godaddy at the monent you can post adult material how would pay pal know your getting payed for adult content its none of their business what the transaction is for | May 07 22:58 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty of corps give in to that because it costs them more in profit to fight for something and lose customers in a boycott than fight for something they don't profit from | May 07 22:58 |
| ThistleWeb | not just paypal, it's visa, amex etc too | May 07 22:58 |
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| icelogic | but how do they know what its for | May 07 22:59 |
| ThistleWeb | then there's all sorts of "underage" laws to consider as well as "prostitution" laws | May 07 22:59 |
| icelogic | all they see and know is a transaction amount | May 07 22:59 |
| ThistleWeb | seriously, the conservative lobby have been going all out on preventing porn online | May 07 23:00 |
| ThistleWeb | by law | May 07 23:00 |
| ThistleWeb | by making every part of it illegal | May 07 23:00 |
| icelogic | i know they are trying to make the internet about bog corps | May 07 23:01 |
| ThistleWeb | they use all the age old arguments about "think of the children" and while they have compliant sentators who back them, it works | May 07 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] McCartney had a fine 1st marriage. He did not repeat errors of 2nd marriage the 3rd time by marrying non whore with money and two legs. | May 07 23:01 | |
| ThistleWeb | no matter the logic, they're on a holy crusade | May 07 23:01 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 23:02 |
| ThistleWeb | the US is not the country you want to set up ANY business | May 07 23:02 |
| icelogic | damn conservatives | May 07 23:02 |
| ThistleWeb | let alone an adult business | May 07 23:02 |
| cubezzz | there's tons of adult sites though | May 07 23:02 |
| cubezzz | tons and tons and tons | May 07 23:02 |
| ThistleWeb | yep, in california | May 07 23:03 |
| ThistleWeb | nowhere else | May 07 23:03 |
| cubezzz | not in Nevada? | May 07 23:03 |
| ThistleWeb | nope | May 07 23:03 |
| cubezzz | surprising | May 07 23:03 |
| Ender2070 | gnome 3 is weird | May 07 23:04 |
| icelogic | they are all from my moms webcam | May 07 23:04 |
| ThistleWeb | cali is pretty much the only adult freindly state | May 07 23:04 |
| ThistleWeb | in the US anyway | May 07 23:04 |
| ThistleWeb | nevada have legalised brothels | May 07 23:05 |
| cubezzz | yeah so I heard, that's why I'm surprised they don't have adult sites | May 07 23:05 |
| ThistleWeb | cali is the ONLY US state worth setting up an adult site in, if you HAVE to set up in the US, which I wouldn;t at all | May 07 23:06 |
| ThistleWeb | any other state puts your ass at risk, literally | May 07 23:06 |
| ThistleWeb | they're determined to make all ythings to do with adult sites criminal offenses, meaning HARD jail time | May 07 23:07 |
| ThistleWeb | no fines | May 07 23:07 |
| ThistleWeb | no warnings | May 07 23:07 |
| ThistleWeb | same as rape, murder etc | May 07 23:07 |
| cubezzz | well that's just the US | May 07 23:08 |
| icelogic | lol thistle your cool i am glad i added you to icentica | May 07 23:08 |
| ThistleWeb | I wouldn't host in the US at all, even Cali | May 07 23:08 |
| icelogic | screw the conservatives | May 07 23:08 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 23:08 |
| cubezzz | US does seem to be getting more and more restrictive though | May 07 23:08 |
| ThistleWeb | includes any .* controlled by the US too, so I'll never register a .org, .net. or .com etc | May 07 23:09 |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic: lol ty | May 07 23:09 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I've never had a problem with *.org | May 07 23:09 |
| cubezzz | just saying | May 07 23:09 |
| icelogic | thistle your are the replacement for william wallace/brave heart, roy is going to be the replacement for rms when he dies and goblin will be the replacement for steve jobs | May 07 23:09 |
| ThistleWeb | cubezzz: .org is under the same ICANN control | May 07 23:09 |
| cubezzz | 10 years now actually | May 07 23:10 |
| ThistleWeb | I love the concept of .org but while the US control it, I won't even consoider it | May 07 23:10 |
| cubezzz | so what do you use then? | May 07 23:10 |
| icelogic | .this | May 07 23:10 |
| ThistleWeb | I prefer the .co.uk (nominet who have some dubious history too sadlt) | May 07 23:11 |
| ThistleWeb | .arse | May 07 23:11 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | May 07 23:11 |
| icelogic | lol | May 07 23:11 |
| cubezzz | ah, an adult site then :) | May 07 23:11 |
| ThistleWeb | the whole .xxx was rejected multiple times by the adult industry because it wont work | May 07 23:12 |
| ThistleWeb | yet persisstant lobbying managed to get it forced through | May 07 23:12 |
| cubezzz | CityTV in Canada even broadcasts some softcore after midnight | May 07 23:12 |
| ThistleWeb | won't make any digfference# | May 07 23:12 |
| cubezzz | and that's receivable via antenna | May 07 23:12 |
| *ThistleWeb has been drinking the old apple juice btw | May 07 23:12 | |
| ThistleWeb | hence the typos | May 07 23:13 |
| ThistleWeb | the adult industry for the most part are law abiding people who want to do the right thing, they want to keep porn away from kids, as well as keep keeps out of performing | May 07 23:14 |
| ThistleWeb | kids* | May 07 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watched Click doing a security programme. Anyone watching might think all "PC's" are equally vulnerable. #bbcclick #fail | May 07 23:15 | |
| ThistleWeb | the problems are the solutions are provided by people who are ideologiacal and clueless | May 07 23:15 |
| ThistleWeb | .xx won't work | May 07 23:15 |
| ThistleWeb | .xxx even# | May 07 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: Watched Click doing a security programme. Anyone watching might think all "PC's" are equally vulnerable. #bbcclick #fail | May 07 23:16 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: can you join #boycottnovell-social (maybe others too)? | May 07 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Novell is no more. I guess we'll stay with the name anyway. Like SCO ebcome TSG | May 07 23:18 |
| cubezzz | I'd just go with boycottmicrosoft | May 07 23:18 |
| ThistleWeb | #boycott-nsg? | May 07 23:18 |
| cubezzz | simple | May 07 23:18 |
| cubezzz | #boycottM$ | May 07 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Novell SCO Group? | May 07 23:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab runs some channels about ffii and swpats | May 07 23:19 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yes if you want....Why? | May 07 23:19 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I try to keep things simple and have most of my discussions in techrights | May 07 23:19 |
| schestowitz | pasting text | May 07 23:20 |
| schestowitz | don't want a wall of text in main channel | May 07 23:20 |
| cubezzz | _Goblin, I got parallel port communication working between the linux box and the amiga | May 07 23:20 |
| cubezzz | 38K per sec | May 07 23:20 |
| cubezzz | not bad for a 500 | May 07 23:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching The Matrix again. It strikes me it could be an allogory for any modern democratic system. | May 07 23:25 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: Ah yes Saturday so another episode of Click | May 07 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | that show can be quite good, depending on what it's about and such | May 07 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | would be nice to have more Linux stuff on it though, but yeah that's unlikely at the moment | May 07 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: anyway they have a good interview with them interviwing the Blackberry guy, where he got annoyeed at them, on their site | May 07 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | and some of that was in last week's episoe | May 07 23:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. Check out these tunnels.... :D http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=-708&y=64&z=275&zoom=-2 | May 07 23:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 07 23:38 |
| icelogic | seb thanks for adding me i send you a message on identica | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Good news | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz | techrights gets a lot of traffic and its ranks too are improving this month, so far | May 07 23:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just when you think cd's are more dead than ICC even handedness they come back to bite you in the arse. | May 07 23:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Will wait untill tomorow and Brahmless. | May 07 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The !miners subway net: http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=-143&y=64&z=-492&zoom=-2 | May 07 23:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 07 23:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... Love the way you guys are re-creating the Consol Energy Center. Awesome! !miners | May 07 23:56 | |
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