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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The new map shows height differences much better. And it's a lot clearer in general... :) !miners | May 08 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Woa..... That is HUUUUUGE! Oo http://alain.sixgun.org/map/?x=206&y=64&z=163&zoom=-3 !miners | May 08 00:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nybill: "Hello My name is Bill, and I Minecraft" | May 08 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is seroius I am going to turn the oven on. | May 08 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At the party tonight, I tried to explain to a professional game designer why #Minecraft is so awesome and of course failed miserably. | May 08 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The thing about #Minecraft is you have to play it to understand why it's so damn cool. | May 08 00:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Who build the big compass? :D !miners | May 08 00:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Suede | May 08 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Server is back up. !miners | May 08 00:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just chased off some neighborhood dog that was bothering one of my outdoor cats :P | May 08 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | The cat's name is Sady, and one of the kids (whose dog it was) said "Whoa, you named your cat Satan?" | May 08 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | I told him no, but that's who his dog was going to go see next time. :) | May 08 00:31 |
| MinceR | :> | May 08 00:32 |
| *DaemonFC likes cats, but only keeps one indoors | May 08 00:33 | |
| DaemonFC | the other ones are strays that I started feeding | May 08 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I built a sort of shelter for them during the winter out of a big box and some plastic wrap over it, and some old blankets | May 08 00:37 |
| MinceR | :) | May 08 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | the landlord kind of rolled his eyes at me | May 08 00:37 |
| MinceR | did you collect his eyes? :> | May 08 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | he hates cats | May 08 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | he made me put down an extra $200 pet deposit just for Jabba | May 08 00:38 |
| MinceR | he sucks | May 08 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Jabba is 20 pounds, neutered, and declawed, he spends most of his day sleeping | May 08 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | but the guy let some of his other tenants move in a python | May 08 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | for free | May 08 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | he sent some maintenance people in that unit and here's a 15 foot snake roaming about the house | May 08 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 00:40 |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <DaemonFC> Jabba is 20 pounds, neutered, and declawed, he spends most of his day sleeping | May 08 00:40 |
| schestowitz | LOL 20 pounder | May 08 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Chubba | May 08 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What kind of a person keeps a python as pets? Is there some ind of cult downstairs drawing pentagrams on the ceiling below my bed? | May 08 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | something I need perhaps, to be made aware of | May 08 00:41 |
| schestowitz | [00:38] <DaemonFC> he made me put down an extra $200 pet deposit just for Jabba | May 08 00:41 |
| *DaemonFC wonders if he's the antichrist | May 08 00:41 | |
| schestowitz | It'll sell for $20 in CHina... 20 lb of meat and bone | May 08 00:41 |
| *schestowitz thinks DaemonFC experiments to see if Jabba can be treated like a pig | May 08 00:42 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, In Indianapolis there was a guy who had Vietnamese neighbors that ate his dog. He busted into their apartment and shot the guy who nabbed his dog | May 08 00:42 |
| schestowitz | I herad about cats here.. | May 08 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | The jury found him not guilty of murder, and guilty of voluntary manslaughter | May 08 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | diminished capacity | May 08 00:42 |
| schestowitz | IIRC some Chinese immigrants here would east pigeons and cats | May 08 00:43 |
| schestowitz | It's cheaper than Tesco's | May 08 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | he went nuts because they ate his dog | May 08 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | ok, I agree | May 08 00:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR hates dawgs | May 08 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's some culpability there but the guy was obviously pushed | May 08 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | I would have voted to drop it to manslaughter too | May 08 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Dogs and cats have common ancestors not too far behind | May 08 00:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 145 million downloads on 2011-05-07 23:42 UTC | May 08 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Althougn genetically they are extremely different and closer connected to animals you would not thin | May 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | *Think | May 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Hey, why do cats do it doggystyle? Why is it called doggy anyway? | May 08 00:45 |
| MinceR | :> | May 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Humans have a favouritism for dogs | May 08 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The charges for what that Vietnamese family did would have been animal cruelty with a maximum sentence of 10 years | May 08 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | D Felony | May 08 00:45 |
| icelogic | i do think it was wrong to eat his dog but still not right to shoot him though | May 08 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Manslaughter in the first degree is a C Felony, 10-15 | May 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | I thought you said Manchester :-) | May 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Hey, what if the Dog are the Vietnamese nighbour | May 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | And got caught | May 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | are->ate | May 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Hey, what if the Dog ate the Vietnamese nighbour | May 08 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm not too sure I wouldn't shoot the guy that ate Jabba, so you can't expect me to sympathize with the bastards that ate that guy's dog | May 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | With the typo it just sounded too wrong :-( | May 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | we east cows and pigs gladly.. | May 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Some cultures don't stop at more cute-looking creatures | May 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | It's a clash of cultures | May 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | What we define to be ethical is all relative | May 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Which is why you don't eat a can of worms, which is totally edible and maybe quite healthy | May 08 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | There was an enraged motorist several years back, on a freeway in the middle of a traffic jam. He got out of his car, opened the back door, and grabbed his son's dog and threw it into the oncoming lane | May 08 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | he got an 11 year sentence, animal cruelty, aggravated | May 08 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | this happened in Indiana | May 08 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Yeeeeee haaaaa | May 08 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Indians | May 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Get em /sarcasm | May 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | The state of mad men with fat cats and pistols :) | May 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's just Hunting(ton) | May 08 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The ones around here weren't wiped out via mass murder you know | May 08 00:49 |
| schestowitz | assimilated? | May 08 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 08 00:50 |
| cubezzz | yeah in South America they eat Guinea Pigs | May 08 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have some of their DNA | May 08 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | May 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | how do you know? | May 08 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | family trees | May 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | you do have some dna of theirs for sure | May 08 00:50 |
| schestowitz | tree of life? | May 08 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | oh stop that :P | May 08 00:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is part Japenese? | May 08 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | no, I don't screw 13 year olds and make videos about it | May 08 00:51 |
| schestowitz | ? | May 08 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | because it's not widely accepted in my culture | May 08 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 00:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what isn't? | May 08 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | regarding the laws there, and the kind of smut that they spew all over the place I get the impression that the Japanese are a culture of sex perverts | May 08 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I reckon the states is one of the biggest exporters of this stuff | May 08 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | it kind of blows the theory that fetishes are the result of sexual inhibition out of the water | May 08 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | at least for me it does :P | May 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | you are not attracted to girls | May 08 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | nobody in their right mind would be | May 08 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | And some find *that* "pervert", to use the words youj used to collectively refer to the Japenese | May 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | So you need to come off the high horse, sir | May 08 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die | May 08 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 08 00:54 |
| icelogic | girls ftw dude | May 08 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | uh huh | May 08 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | alimony, child support, possibly cooties | May 08 00:55 |
| icelogic | yea but it was fun | May 08 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | materialistic | May 08 00:55 |
| icelogic | yea but it was still fun | May 08 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | sorry, I can't fit my head that far up my ass, and believe me I'd TRIED to figure out what causes men to go for the fish taco | May 08 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | but I just can't see an upside to that kind of lifestyle | May 08 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | and to make it worse, they force their sickness on level headed people like myself | May 08 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 00:57 |
| icelogic | yea but still the look good in pink | May 08 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | 5,000 years ago, when the world just popped into existence, and Adam and Eve rode the dinosaurs with Jesus, didn't the 11th commandment says something about gays? | May 08 00:58 |
| icelogic | women are hot who cares if they mess up your life its worth it | May 08 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm going to form my own version of Christianity because Jesus came to me in a dreaqm and said they're all wrong | May 08 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | the world was created 5,001 years ago | May 08 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | and Jesus went around throwing dinosaur bones everywhere just to screw with us | May 08 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | and AIDS is a punishment from God for little babies who happen to have an HIV infected mother, even though they had no chance to commit a sin | May 08 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | God is punishing them retroactively for the sins they would have commited had they lived | May 08 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | it all makes sense you see :P | May 08 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | (retroactively, proactively? It makes no difference when you're timeless and omniscient does it?) | May 08 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why cultists are the norm, MinceR | May 08 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that if any one of them dedicated 5 minutes of their tiny brain's runtime to thinking about how much sense that makes, they'd ditch it. | May 08 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Same with straight people | May 08 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | start thinking "What is in this for me?" | May 08 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | everyone would be gay atheists overnight if they just put a little thought into their lives | May 08 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | biology says that can't happen because it would be the end of a species | May 08 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | heterosexuality is inexplicable because there's nothing in it for the parents except an urge to reproduce | May 08 01:06 |
| icelogic | who cares they are so hot in pink | May 08 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think that maybe homosexuality is what you get when biological urge collides with rational thought | May 08 01:06 |
| MinceR | no thanks | May 08 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | two two kind of compete, it still makes no sense but it's usually fairly harmless | May 08 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | which is still better :) | May 08 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | my step dad fell into the "straight trap", their vile propaganda about must marry, must reproduce. Now he's paying lawyers $400 an hour and arguing in the court systems of Indiana and Ohio with his ex-wife (bitch), about custody | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | still | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | even after 10 years of divorce | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | the issue won't die | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | and he's wearing shorts and t shirts in winter because she spends all the child support on drugs | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | so see, two victims of one woman | May 08 01:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] using exclusively !gnome programs so that my review is accurate, no emacs is killing me(posted from epiphany) | May 08 01:10 | |
| DaemonFC | it's far from unusual | May 08 01:10 |
| icelogic | you need to get laid demon | May 08 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | now the court (the Ohio one) lowered the child support he has to pay because he said the health insurance he carries on his son should count, you can't spend health insurance on heroin and booze | May 08 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | so now his ex wife is pissed and says "YOU TAKE HIM!" | May 08 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | mission accomplished? | May 08 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | hurry up before she changes her mind and family court won't listen to you because you have a penis? | May 08 01:12 |
| *DaemonFC thinks so | May 08 01:12 | |
| MinceR | gn | May 08 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | icelogic, The US court system, at least in family law, always sides with the woman | May 08 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | over everything | May 08 01:13 |
| icelogic | yea but thats a different topic | May 08 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | unless you can drag her "good name" through the mud and back again and prove all of it, then it's 50/50 | May 08 01:13 |
| icelogic | women are hot man | May 08 01:13 |
| icelogic | women are like free software | May 08 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | women are like pirated Windows | May 08 01:13 |
| icelogic | men are proritary ms windows | May 08 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | you think you're getting a deal | May 08 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | then you get shut out and told to pay up | May 08 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 01:14 |
| icelogic | lol | May 08 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | icelogic, Some are like free software under the BSD license, pass them around, use them however you want | May 08 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | you probably should stay away from them | May 08 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | disease and all | May 08 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 01:14 |
| icelogic | lol | May 08 01:15 |
| icelogic | bsd licence = disease | May 08 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | "That's a lot of miles man, we're talkin' RENT A CAR miles!" | May 08 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 01:15 |
| icelogic | men are like the bsd licence and women are like the gpl more restrictive but better for users | May 08 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hi, | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for contacting the Chrome Web Store support team. | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | The issue that you've reported is a known issue, and has been resolved. | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Please write back to us if you continue to experience this problem. | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Cheers, | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Jeanne | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | The Chrome Web Store team | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | about the Google Web Store blocking Chromium | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote them a simultaneously polite and nasty letter | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | you know, one that gets the point across without using foul language and name calling :) | May 08 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I can't remember exactly what I said but something like. I don't agree with Chrome's 6,500 word license, I don't want Adobe PDF DRM and vulnerabilities on my system, and I don't recognize the validity of the MPEG-LA's patent claims. Why is Chromium blocked, and why does it work if you make it ID as Chrome? | May 08 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Opera's EULA is much more acceptable | May 08 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | than Chrome | May 08 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | if you read both of them side by side, tell me which you'd rather use | May 08 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | but Chromium's is just various BSD-style licenses | May 08 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to agree to sell your privacy down the river or have a browser stuffed with defective Adobe software, or acknowledge the MPEG-LA's claims | May 08 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | you have to do that to use Chrome | May 08 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's bad enough that you have to have Flash | May 08 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | but there's a million free PDF readers that don't spy on you or have tons of CVEs | May 08 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | So I don't see why Google insists on Adobe PDF for Chrome | May 08 01:24 |
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| icelogic | DEAMON WHATS YOR IDENTICA I'LL ADD YOU | May 08 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | don't have one :) | May 08 01:26 |
| icelogic | cool | May 08 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium is kind of like the original Mozilla project | May 08 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | you know, when it was really centrally controlled by Netscape communications | May 08 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | and it was free software for PR reasons | May 08 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | and not recommended for end users | May 08 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium avoids using GPL-style software whenever they can | May 08 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | at the same time, it's important that since Chrome is popular and is a good web browser, that if people are going to use it, the various Chromium builds should be recommended | May 08 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as someone fires up Chrome, that's a wrap on their privacy :) | May 08 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | and it involves tons of nonfree software that is riddled with security holes | May 08 01:30 |
| icelogic | demon do you webcast? | May 08 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, it comes down to Chromium and Opera | May 08 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | they are both best,, but both are best in different ways | May 08 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes :) | May 08 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQwOQ | May 08 01:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] GameTree Linux Is Finally Out There, Sort Of .::. Size~: 18.19 KB | May 08 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | How they hell is Transgaming still around? | May 08 01:37 |
| icelogic | i was wanting to do a small webcast and perhaps submit it to hacker public radio let me know if you or anyone else here is interested | May 08 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | *the | May 08 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | They rename Cedega and call it a new product | May 08 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | lets see if this has anyone pay for old WINE with hacks | May 08 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | (Cedega wasn't better than WINE for very long) | May 08 01:38 |
| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 08 01:40 | |
| DaemonFC | I kind of see Crossover Games as a waste of money except maybe if you have no idea how to use WINE | May 08 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | (which is part of the reason WINE is kept sort of unintuitive and difficult to use properly) | May 08 01:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting colours in the Singapore elections map. #sgelection http://ur1.ca/43vme | May 08 02:11 | |
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| schestowitz | http://bytesmedia.co.uk/2011/05/08/rusty-gordon-tim-brandon-and-roy/ http://techrights.org/2011/05/07/techbytes-episode-44/ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/08/interview-with-brandon-lozza/ | May 08 02:19 |
| schestowitz | TechBytes Episode 44: Brandon Lozza Interview | May 08 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Article | May 08 02:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It is May 8th 2011 and it is a Brand New Singapore!: http://wp.me/pj2fj-rC #sgelection | May 08 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @speeddefrost @x11r5 HOW DO YOU KNOW MY NAME!?! | May 08 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 44: Brandon Lozza Interview on !Fedora http://is.gd/pyeBdX | May 08 02:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Earlier today all the Sun blogs got oraclewashed: http://is.gd/bxI06q http://is.gd/bxI06q http://is.gd/9fBh3a they never worked for Oracle. | May 08 02:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72899857 | May 08 02:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 07-May-11 20:06:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @bruce89: Well I remember @schestowitz doing it to me twice, and the most recent was yesterday. | May 08 02:23 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: when can you record? IIRC you need a mic | May 08 02:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz !TechBytes Episode 44: Brandon Lozza Interview on !Fedora http://is.gd/pyeBdX | May 08 02:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bytes Media - TechBytes Episode 44: Rusty, Gordon, Tim, Brandon, and Roy .::. Size~: 40.07 KB | May 08 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, analog ones are hard to come by, the most popular way to use one is in your webcam, and that is only happening if you use Pulseaudio since ALSA seems to only want to use the sound card's analog in without it | May 08 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | then pulseaudio brings in more stupidity like setting HDMI audio on your video card as the default sound card | May 08 02:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@webmink your Sun blog has just become Oracle endorsement :-D | May 08 02:28 | |
| DaemonFC | Oracle only seems to really care about two things from Sun | May 08 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Java and Solaris | May 08 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | the rest is being thrown out and left to die | May 08 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Why did you copy that status in, look at context | May 08 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: also probably going to have a headset next week | May 08 02:29 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: cool | May 08 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle FUDs Linux, sues people that use Linux, and writes code for Linux while supporting their own Linux distribution that is really stolen from Red Hat and had the name changed | May 08 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Cause we'll try to rush with guests to make it more fun for everyone | May 08 02:30 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: !TechBytes Episode 44: Rusty, Gordon, Tim, Brandon, and Roy http://bytesmedia.co.uk/2011/05/08/rusty-gordon-tim-brandon-and-roy/ http://techrights.org/2011/05/07/techbytes-episode-44/ | May 08 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Gordon's on | May 08 02:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The way to stop being gouged by Red Hat (assuming you really don't need their support service), is to change your update sources to point to Scientific Linux | May 08 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | not to pay Oracle which really provides the same software and can't really support it (but claims to) | May 08 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Oh Rusty is in another episode | May 08 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | already | May 08 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Rush with guests? uhmm when I am on, I probably only really want to be interviewed by you and T im by the way | May 08 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with using Oracle Linux 6 is that even though it's given away freely now, it may not be tomorrow, and Oracle puts their own EULA on top of it which is full of all sorts of unfortunate language like intellectual property and patents and such | May 08 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and then I want to talk about well me and distro's, and why I want to contribute to Mageia properly on community side and that | May 08 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | For the mroe technical Mageia stuff, well that wil be the other guy | May 08 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle's open source strategy has been to give with one hand and take with the other. Why trust them? | May 08 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | yeah for the proper Mageia stuff, that will be the other guy | May 08 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | this time round | May 08 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can probably get him to go on in June | May 08 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, You'd think they could get rid of the awful bootloader | May 08 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Who? | May 08 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Grub Legacy is really aging badly | May 08 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Mageia | May 08 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm Fedora still has Grub Legacy | May 08 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandriva | May 08 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | and PC Linux OS | May 08 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and it's been hacked to death to do things it was never designed to do | May 08 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | and every once in a while it goes nuts and eats your data or can't find the root partition | May 08 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | or some other such crap that I still haven't seen GRUB 2 do | May 08 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm that 0.97 version that those distro's have, has worked well rather well for me | May 08 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so you only just uploaded that episode or? | May 08 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, throw LVM or XFS into the equation | May 08 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | and see what happens | May 08 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was looking at the Techbytes group a few times earlier, and yep no dent about it | May 08 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's been patched to support both, but that support is too flaky to count on | May 08 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be surprised if Fedora keeps using GRUB Legacy for very long | May 08 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Fedora 15 will be Grub Legacy as well | May 08 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | yes, it will | May 08 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunate | May 08 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | works good for me | May 08 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | Grub 2 is nasty to configure | May 08 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | also who cares really about a boot loader, as long as the OS's boot? | May 08 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's like anything else you never think of until it doesn't work :) | May 08 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm for the domain, I think .org.uk would have been better, or just well yeah .org, because Tech byes isn't a compnay in the uk .co.uk | May 08 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I know .co.uk gets used wrongly a lot now, but still | May 08 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | I have a .co.uk email address | May 08 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify requires one | May 08 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | great | May 08 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was just at the store yesterday and now I need envelopes | May 08 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | May 08 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I got a Vote For Updike thing in my mailbox today | May 08 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'll vote for him when we're deciding who to shoot | May 08 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | May 08 02:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 39,200 persons have "liked" the "I do not want Tin Pei Ling in Parliament" facebook page. Do your part. http://ur1.ca/43wsv #sgelection | May 08 02:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/5/2011: Many New Linux Devices and ODF 1.2 Facts http://is.gd/couoSl !techrights | May 08 02:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 8/5/2011: Many New Linux Devices and ODF 1.2 Facts http://is.gd/couoSl #techrights | May 08 02:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This week in WikiLeaks: Osama, Pakinstan, Guantanamo, WSJ http://alturl.com/gjvng | May 08 03:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Quick and Dirty VPN With sshuttle http://is.gd/Hixi7Z #vpn #software | May 08 03:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat looks to stand out with open APIs http://is.gd/pclOUy #redhat #free #software #api #gnu #linux | May 08 03:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] (video) Wall Street Journal's WikiLeaks wannabe http://alturl.com/zyrup | May 08 03:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Open Virtualization Advances into the Enterprise with Red Hat And IBM http://is.gd/OCTmvU #redhat #linux #ibm #virtualization #gnu | May 08 03:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eibriel: Linux and Windows side by side | http://www.eibriel.com/more/linux-and-windows/ | !ubuntu #windows | May 08 03:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] NAS devices offer SSD support, cloud storage http://is.gd/4TBFsE #nas #storage #linux #gnu #iomega | May 08 03:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Senator #Rockefeller Announces Anti-Online-Tracking Bill http://is.gd/q5qELp #bill #online #netneutrality | May 08 03:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ARM11 Linux educational computer aims for $25 pricetag http://is.gd/zFQa7l #linux #olpc #gnu #education | May 08 03:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ever wondered, what is the motivation of Open Source Community? http://is.gd/iKStOZ #gnu #microsoft #software #foss #linux | May 08 03:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 08 03:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Novatel's developer lounge is pathetic. only questions, no answers. where's the MiFi SDK? where's the source for their Linux modifications? | May 08 03:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ten Things You Didn’t Know About ODF 1.2 http://is.gd/64xbDA #microsoft #office #odf #ooo #lo #libreoffice | May 08 04:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Returning Officer Yam Ah Mee was once CEO of LTA. When he introduced himself as "Ah Mee", the other person said, "no, Navy" #sgelection | May 08 04:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Met a friend tonight, folks listening to us must have thought we were nuts, but hey we've known each other 48 years :) | May 08 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Which code hosting give maximum space for hosting iso or FOSS software ?? | May 08 04:30 | |
| icelogic | a few of us are going to webcast in mumble about anyone here interested? | May 08 04:31 |
| icelogic | about free software | May 08 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | depends on what mumble is | May 08 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | its free software | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | voice over ip cleint | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | sudo apt-get install mumble | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | its on source forge | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | you can google mumble to find it | May 08 04:32 |
| icelogic | let me know if your interested and i will get you the server info | May 08 04:33 |
| icelogic | we are considering sending it to hacker public radio and or roy | May 08 04:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT BarrettBrownLOL Chapter of book #HBGary CEO Aaron Barr was writing on net skillz: social eng! http://tinyurl.com/3pqudn2 #anonymous | May 08 04:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | did you find it? | May 08 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | oops | May 08 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 08 04:58 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Hmm just been thinking about what distro to put on again, because I got this Ubuntu11.04 Beta 2 install where I installed Gnome 3 wrong from ppa, that is on the verge of going bye bye | May 08 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | well anyway | May 08 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora 15 release candidate on the 10th according to the scheduled :) | May 08 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 PPA may ruin your Ubuntu system, it's not supported | May 08 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | I installed it wrong or whatever | May 08 05:04 |
| sebsebseb | Fedora 15 well yeah that could be great, but I remember from 13 and 14 that Virtualbox isn't in the repos and uh | May 08 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | It does ruin your Unity Session | May 08 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | and there is no way to remove it | May 08 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: still haven't tried out Gnome 3 final, and the Ubuntu ppa isn't the full expereince anyway | May 08 05:05 |
| sebsebseb | yep can't just log into Unity I know, once the Gnome 3 ppa is used, and can probably remove the ppa with a command | May 08 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | ppa-purge might work | May 08 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I may even go back to Gnome 2, but also KDE as a desktop envrinoment at times, when Mageia 1 comes out next month, this is after trying out Gnome 3 final | May 08 05:06 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah the plan is to try out Gnome 3 final this month, but I also want to use my computer, and have Windows in a virtual machine, because of a stupid thing that needs it, and hopefuly it will work there, but yep not virtual machined yet either | May 08 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | so basically I am thinking about maybe re installing later with the Ubuntu 11.04 final, and have another go with Unity quickly, and ccsm this time, and try the Gnome 3 ppa again, but installing how I should this time | May 08 05:07 |
| sebsebseb | or putting the release candidate for Fedora 15 on next weekend or something uh. | May 08 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I kind of hate Desktop Linux right now | May 08 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | at times, because of how things are, with Gnome 3 and Unity | May 08 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | and distro's | May 08 05:08 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Debian uh, I can ignore Debian pretty much, I don't care about trying that out on pshyicall hardware, KDE uhmm I can ignore that as a desktop envrionment unless I choose to use it no problem, but well it's differnet for Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell and Unity | May 08 05:09 |
| sebsebseb | something tells me, that I won't be that keen on the Gnome Shell final either from what I have seen, so yeah Mageia 1 next month for quite a while it may be | May 08 05:10 |
| sebsebseb | or at least untill there's an interesting development version of something to try out, be that Ubuntu, Mageia, or possibily even Fedora | May 08 05:10 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: at leat I am not looking at trying out loads of distro's :) soon on this computer, because I don't have a proper test computer, because yeah if I was looking at trying loads fo them soon, I would be mentally in a right mess really | May 08 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | apparently Unity causes Compiz to leak memory | May 08 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | after 5-6 hours of being logged in, Compiz is using over 300 megs of RAM | May 08 05:13 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: from what I have seen of it in Beta 2, and no I didn't change any compiz settings, but I did try out Unity 3D and Unity 2D (from a ppa turns out it was in the repos), but well I prefer the 10.10 mutter version really | May 08 05:14 |
| sebsebseb | when running that on my desktop with Ubuntu and Lubuntu | May 08 05:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also if I am running something else, I can virtual machine Unity 3D and 2D anyway in Ubuntu | May 08 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | could do that inside Ubuntu even | May 08 05:15 |
| sebsebseb | which wel I might even do | May 08 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME says that having preferences is bad | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | they carry that out to where you HAVE to have Mutter running | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | it HAS to use compositing | May 08 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I might actgsauly keep what I got right now for longer, and virtual machine 11.04 final | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | and you MUST use the settings it came with | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's bullshit | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | I mean I kind of like this cross between Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, GNOME 3 is worse than Unity | May 08 05:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but on the other hand, I got some other bugs of course, since this was beta 2 | May 08 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | At least Unity doesn't totally ostracize power users the way GNOME does, even if it does have more bugs | May 08 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: when just well looking at the interfaces and what they offer, and it depends on user and all that sure, but well in some ways Unity will be better, and other ways Gnome SHell | May 08 05:17 |
| sebsebseb | in a way it's easier to just use Gnome 2 mainly for now, and not really worry much about this stuff | May 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like GNOMES Hell | May 08 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also knowing about this kind of stuff, what's going on, with Desktop Linux and such, well it can be more of a curse than a blessing at times | May 08 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | I have this feeling from what I saw of the latest versions of Gnome Shell | May 08 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | on sites and video and yeah | May 08 05:18 |
| sebsebseb | I have this feeling, that I will prefer the old version I have on the other computer in Mandriva 2010.2 which is a year or so old, well there was a little update | May 08 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah old still | May 08 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | old version that goes on top of Gnome 2 | May 08 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: this is also why I know that I probably woudn't mind running Magiea 1 on here in June really, after trying out Gnome Shell latest version and Unity again for a bit. | May 08 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | yeah no Gnome 3 or Unity for Mageia 1 | May 08 05:19 |
| sebsebseb | the next proper verison of Gnome, so 3.2, should be in Mageia 2 though and well most distro's that have Gnome | May 08 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Epiphany is a pile of crap. There's no preference to make popups open in a new tab (because preferences are evil), there are no really good extensions (because you have to write them in C, like you do for Internet Explorer), and the extensions they do have suck (Like their Adblock plugin that uses 2007-era filterset.g that nobody makes filters for anymore) | May 08 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | well I am not that keen on Epiphany myself | May 08 05:20 |
| sebsebseb | altough Firefox is also going bad now as well starting with 4.0, a bit here and there | May 08 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | Writing extensions for a web browser in C is something that only web browsers from the 1990s do | May 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | like IE 9 | May 08 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 05:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Ubuntu Developer Summit next week, if I choose to, I can join in on sessions on IRC, say stuff to them, and listen to audio through Internet, like I did not last time, but the time before a bit here and there | May 08 05:22 |
| sebsebseb | can listen to the keynote with Jono and such as well, and uh | May 08 05:22 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ,but that stuff starts 8am my time, and I have sleep issues anyway and such right now so hmm, also staying up for that kind of stuff or some of it, or waking up specifically for it, is a bit sad in a way really, when going to be contributing more properly to another distro :) | May 08 05:23 |
| sebsebseb | community side | May 08 05:23 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: however Ubuntu is like Windows for me now since it's so popular, or even Mac OS X to an extent, at times I may want to keep an eye on it, but really also since Ubuntu is a Linux distribution and the most popular, of course I want to keep an eye on it at times. | May 08 05:24 |
| sebsebseb | and uh | May 08 05:24 |
| sebsebseb | yeah Desktop Linux, hmm at what it has become really! | May 08 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTzwJsHpU8 | May 08 05:24 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: it would be nice to have a proper test computer realyl, but no don't have one right now hmm | May 08 05:25 |
| sebsebseb | would make things so much easier | May 08 05:25 |
| sebsebseb | espesaill since I get virtualbox issues sometimes now | May 08 05:25 |
| sebsebseb | and such | May 08 05:26 |
| sebsebseb | and uh | May 08 05:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: in a way ignorance is bliss when it comes to computers a lot of the time. I mean most computer users won't really think about what OS they are going to run and when for a start. Also most computer users, won't read loads of well Linux related junk on the web, wasting time doing that. | May 08 05:27 |
| sebsebseb | and that's something else, the web actsaully annoys me now more than it used to do, because I read mroe stuff now than I used to, and well there is so much of it every day, to do with Linux and stuff, and well yeah can't read it all, and most of it isn't particulary interesting anyway, but I still want to go and read a lot of this stuff, hmm. | May 08 05:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting note by former president Devan Nair about how the PAP wanted to destroy the WP #sgelection http://ur1.ca/43zr6 | May 08 05:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Well done Michelle! Great lyrics and touches the key points well! A must watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nePpJwCzhhg #sgelection | May 08 05:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Facebook petition to remove Tin Pei Ling as MP http://ur1.ca/4401v #sgelection | May 08 06:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Online petition to get the Elections Dept to investigate Tin Pei Ling's cooling-off-day non-observance - http://ur1.ca/4403i #sgelection | May 08 06:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Regime Change - A "Uniquely Singapore" Project: http://wp.me/pj2fj-rO #sgelection | May 08 06:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 44 – 7/05/11 – “The Four Horsemen” http://tinyurl.com/65zymfn !techbytes | May 08 07:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Hide Like Notifications in facebook http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/102477 | May 08 07:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] O2 is back up! | May 08 07:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | unfortunately there's a shortage of smart, funny, creative, talented, intelligent individuals | May 08 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | and instead, there is a surplus of drunken, stupid, fundamentalist Christian redneck sacks of shit | May 08 07:54 |
| *DaemonFC head desks | May 08 07:54 | |
| DaemonFC | -from a conversation with a friend | May 08 07:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Noii fabricanți de lumânări ai BSA-ului http://is.gd/J5lWq9 #microsoft #bsa #romania | May 08 07:55 | |
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| _Goblin | Quote "unfortunately there's a shortage of smart, funny, creative, talented, intelligent individuals " - Don't worry DaemonFC , I'm here now. | May 08 07:55 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 08 07:55 |
| _Goblin | you forgot the handsome part too... | May 08 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | yes, but the ratio seems to be at least 1,000 to 1 | May 08 07:56 |
| _Goblin | lol....but just like a diamond....theres a reason why they are not everywhere | May 08 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | because the diamond cartel propagates the myth that they are rare to artificially increase their perceived value? | May 08 07:58 |
| _Goblin | good answer | May 08 07:58 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 08 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | I try | May 08 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, Give me a tough one. | May 08 07:59 |
| _Goblin | what this early in the morning...?!?!??! ;) - Are you propositioning me? ;) | May 08 08:00 |
| *DaemonFC indeed is having a hard time deciphering that. Was it an advance? | May 08 08:01 | |
| *DaemonFC thinks he should take more medication, then the answer may come to him in a dream. | May 08 08:01 | |
| _Goblin | "tough one" - Term around here for something else | May 08 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, I could understand hard one | May 08 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | how did tough one come to mean that? | May 08 08:02 |
| _Goblin | I don't know..... | May 08 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | So I can't say "Give me a big hard tough long one and some single malt scotch"? | May 08 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | Would that be considered rude? | May 08 08:03 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 08 08:04 |
| _Goblin | depending on Barman I suppose | May 08 08:04 |
| _Goblin | you could end up with a date and a free drink.... | May 08 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's not like I said to turn over on your stomach, take a deep breath, and lets experiment | May 08 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | now is it? :P | May 08 08:04 |
| *DaemonFC will offend a normal before the day is out | May 08 08:05 | |
| _Goblin | a normal? | May 08 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | yes, a normal | May 08 08:06 |
| _Goblin | whats normal? | May 08 08:06 |
| _Goblin | a human? | May 08 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | no, I am biologically human | May 08 08:06 |
| _Goblin | gay or straight, male female we are all normal | May 08 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The BSA’s New Candlemakers http://is.gd/J5lWq9 #microsoft #bsa | May 08 08:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | not what I was referring to | May 08 08:07 |
| _Goblin | ah... | May 08 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | I mean normal in a pejorative sense | May 08 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 08 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | sort of they call me crazy, and then do what they do, so I don't want to be normal | May 08 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | normal=the bad guys | May 08 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | May 08 08:08 |
| _Goblin | ah..... | May 08 08:08 |
| _Goblin | I think its more normal to go against the "flow" than it is to merely follow | May 08 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | normal is my term for Axis of Evil | May 08 08:08 |
| _Goblin | sounds like my wife | May 08 08:08 |
| _Goblin | ;) | May 08 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, I suppose I could call them the mundanes instead | May 08 08:09 |
| _Goblin | drones? | May 08 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think I like that better anyway | May 08 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | yes, drones | May 08 08:09 |
| _Goblin | drones = mainstream, normal = capabable of independent thought. | May 08 08:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Antonescu, la congresul TNL: Sunt liberal, de dreapta, monarhist http://is.gd/DpNcSn #romania #pnl #politics | May 08 08:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] SlutWalking gets rolling after cop's loose talk about provocative clothing http://is.gd/Y99U80 | May 08 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Q: How many of us used SMS during last night election counting tension? i received just 1. Everything was via tweets. #sgelection | May 08 08:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't consider a normal person capable of independent thought | May 08 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | they only think they are | May 08 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's like they are the butt of a bad joke and don't even realize it | May 08 08:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are we really about to say goodbye to TV and DVDs? http://is.gd/sqL1kf cue the bleating from the TV networks for govt hand outs & tax cuts | May 08 08:13 | |
| DaemonFC | most people that are capable of independent thought prey on people who are not | May 08 08:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Antonescu, la congresul TNL: Sunt liberal, de dreapta, monarhist http://is.gd/DpNcSn #romania #politics #monarchy | May 08 08:25 | |
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| cubezzz | normal.... | May 08 08:43 |
| cubezzz | what is normal? | May 08 08:43 |
| cubezzz | doesn't exist | May 08 08:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mvalente "O que os Portugueses precisam de saber sobre a Finlândia" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=helAlhRVTn4 | May 08 08:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 44: Rusty, Gordon, Tim, Brandon, and Roy http://is.gd/pyeBdX http://is.gd/ZXdNCA #sony #fedora | May 08 09:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ghostler Speaking of shoehorning, #Linux is gaining http://ur1.ca/43ykd w3schools an educator site, not just developers (Microsoft FUD). | May 08 09:03 | |
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| gde33 | pirate bay launced a kind of hollywood archives youtube kind of site? | May 08 09:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #NRA and Florida gag pediatricians: no more firearm safety advice for parents - http://bit.ly/m6I8sN 'cos #guns never harm children | May 08 09:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Busted for Copyright Violation in #Belgium - http://bit.ly/j72a52 some #publishers are so clueless #marketing | May 08 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @icetwy @sazius You can try !ubuntu 11.04, but it's a waste of time -- Ubuntu's becoming the Windows of !linux. | May 08 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @icetwy @sazius Yes, !debian is awesome :) Have you read my blog article, Ubuntu 11.04 vs. Debian Squeeze? | May 08 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Looking at Sylpheed 3.1.1 – Is this the package to unseat !Thunderbird on my desktop? http://tinyurl.com/6gjv2hv | May 08 09:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110427 | May 08 09:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh How do I shot LO minecraft? I finally bought it now that school's out of the way | May 08 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In this episode our hero spends his first night getting chased by creepers. | May 08 09:41 | |
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| icelogic | anyone awake? | May 08 09:42 |
| schestowitz | I am | May 08 09:42 |
| icelogic | hi roy | May 08 09:44 |
| schestowitz | The site is driving me absolutely mad today | May 08 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Some odd issues loading pages | May 08 09:45 |
| icelogic | i am looking forward to listening to your new webcast i always save them for when i drive to work it gives me a reason to wake up lol | May 08 09:45 |
| schestowitz | I can't stand it, not sure what's causing it | May 08 09:45 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org | May 08 09:45 |
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| icelogic | what kind i loading issus i have the same set up you do | May 08 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Something at my end seems to be causing it, maybe DNS | May 08 09:46 |
| icelogic | it loaded fine for me | May 08 09:46 |
| icelogic | let me try again | May 08 09:46 |
| schestowitz | icelogic: it's rather bizarre, it's not even a consistent problem | May 08 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With Novel's collapse, the Boycott Novell pages have been getting a lot more exposure recently. | May 08 09:46 | |
| icelogic | site ok on my end at teh monent took only a few seconds to load | May 08 09:47 |
| icelogic | some one could be trying to ddos you site though lol | May 08 09:47 |
| icelogic | that would cause intermitten slowdowns | May 08 09:47 |
| icelogic | i could think of alot of monopolies that would pay to ddos your site lol | May 08 09:48 |
| schestowitz | It's starting to come back again | May 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Not that I changed anything | May 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's a cache server malfunction | May 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | no ddos | May 08 09:49 |
| schestowitz | But we had massive traffic recently at some times, very unusual | May 08 09:50 |
| icelogic | are you hosting from home or renting | May 08 09:50 |
| schestowitz | In last night's show I put a closing track | May 08 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Which I quite liked | May 08 09:50 |
| schestowitz | icelogic: tessier is our kind host | May 08 09:51 |
| icelogic | cool its not always about having the best music, i support artists who licence their work under the creative commons roy use this site if you dont already | May 08 09:52 |
| icelogic | http://www.jamendo.com/en/ | May 08 09:52 |
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| schestowitz | yes, exactly | May 08 09:52 |
| icelogic | ok awsome | May 08 09:52 |
| schestowitz | I no longer like listening to music I cannot share | May 08 09:52 |
| schestowitz | If I enjoy it, I cannot let others too | May 08 09:52 |
| schestowitz | It;'s funny | May 08 09:52 |
| icelogic | yea | May 08 09:52 |
| schestowitz | It's like RMS says about s/w | May 08 09:52 |
| icelogic | there is no enjoyment if you cant share it | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | But I don't think about his quote | May 08 09:53 |
| icelogic | with your friends and family | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | I thought that independently | May 08 09:53 |
| icelogic | we were joking in the irc | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | RMS has a saying like, if you want to give me software that I cannot share back with you, I cannot accept it | May 08 09:53 |
| icelogic | yea | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Better than saying, I reject your software because it's proprietary | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Same for music would apply I guess | May 08 09:53 |
| schestowitz | "You got a song to have me listen to? Well, it I cannot share it with my other friend, then I kindly decline to listen to it,..." | May 08 09:54 |
| icelogic | yea if you cant share it in your webcast non commercially whats the point of even bothering to listen to it or download it | May 08 09:54 |
| icelogic | we were joking in teh in here earlier and siad when steve jobs dies goblin will replace him, when william wallace/melgibson/braveheart dies that scottish guy on your webcast thissle will replace him, and when rms dies you will replace him lol | May 08 09:57 |
| icelogic | is mac_goblin awake | May 08 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C89QY3S_srI&feature=related | May 08 09:58 |
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| DaemonFC | I need more cowbell | May 08 09:58 |
| icelogic | what is cowbell | May 08 09:58 |
| icelogic | i need come mcdonalds | May 08 09:58 |
| icelogic | roy on my end your site loads up well | May 08 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | icelogic, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/719364/ | May 08 10:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Guess what, I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell! | May 08 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 08 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @r7 @mcnalu forgot to get the #offthegrid tag in there ;) | May 08 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @rrix What's your ingame name? Please check out http://wiki.sixgun.org/minecraft/start | May 08 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @icetwy @sazius Yes, !debian is awesome :) Have you read my blog article, Ubuntu 11.04 vs. Debian Squeeze? | May 08 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh -click!- I'm rrix, surprise surprise. let me read that after I survive my first night in singleplayer | May 08 10:03 | |
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| schestowitz | icelogic: yes, time is awake | May 08 10:05 |
| schestowitz | !google openbytes | May 08 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - OpenBytes | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/ | May 08 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Goblin (openbytes) - Identi.ca | http://identi.ca/openbytes | May 08 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Umbrella for Techrights and an OpenBytes Partnership | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/26/bytes-media-and-techrights-legal/ | May 08 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Open Bytes S.L. | http://openbytes.com/ | May 08 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Yay! My !lxhica Twitter app works! I can now send dents to Twitter. | May 08 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows Killer Feature: It Kills GNU/Linux Partitioning http://is.gd/EuRHqF #windows #gnu #linux #grub #oem #sabotage #microsoft | May 08 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Windows Killer Feature: It Kills GNU/Linux Partitioning http://is.gd/EuRHqF !gnu !linux | May 08 10:05 | |
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| schestowitz | He has just released show notes http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-44-%E2%80%93-70511-%E2%80%93-the-four-horsemen/ | May 08 10:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh Those sound like rules I can abide by. :) | May 08 10:06 | |
| icelogic | funny vid dude | May 08 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool has detected the presence of GNU/LINUX. Would you like to correct this problem? [yes|yes] | May 08 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes for the new show are out: !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 44 – 7/05/11 “The Four Horsemen” http://is.gd/uT7MQlhttp://is.gd/ojMi7J | May 08 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] playing with #identicurse on #mint #xfce, initially confusing, finally found how to switch tabs & post | May 08 10:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool has detected the presence of an activation exploit, installation of Vista7 cannot continue, please contact Microsoft Support and mention error code "M00000000L4H" | May 08 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA Has Nothing On Us, isoHunt Tells Court - http://bit.ly/jX7Z6z "no evidence they can be held liable for #copyright infringements" | May 08 10:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You may be a victim of software counterfeiting!!!! ZOMG!!!! SOFTWARE COUNTERFEITING!!!1111one | May 08 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | You may be a victim of a program that turns your desktop black and logs you out every hour because you didn't pay Microsoft. :D | May 08 10:12 |
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| DaemonFC | They used to use a restricted mode where all you could do was launch Internet Explorer and go to a site to pay Microsoft, but now that seems to be the overall description of Windows 8 | May 08 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Sony Encourages #Linux On Their Phones - http://bit.ly/l4aMKs strange - good, but strange | May 08 10:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Sigh, something is surely making me feel cranky today. Rebooting into the other OS to play some freedom-hating shoot-em ups !!! | May 08 10:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @richslxh yeah I eventually stumbled across that, can't figure out how to leave input mode without posting, or reply in context either | May 08 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm, if this has worked, I just replied in conext | May 08 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !bitcoin #iPhone App/client denied! http://is.gd/PaBGpU I would say, move to #Cydia or move away from #iOS. | May 08 10:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @#2 | May 08 10:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Business Model for Art: #eBay - http://bit.ly/lYYS4G how much am I bid for this once and future masterpiece? #businessmodels | May 08 10:28 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: LMAO | May 08 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Red Hat Gets Extorted by Microsoft and Its Patent Trolls http://is.gd/SMSeJC #redhat #swpats #microsoft #acacia #bedrock | May 08 10:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] How Red Hat Gets Extorted by Microsoft and Its Patent Trolls http://is.gd/SMSeJC #patents #monopoly #gnu #linux #amazon | May 08 10:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Notice that Microsoft never really appointed a replacement for Sam Ramji. These people kept fleeing. Microsoft quit pretending to like FOSS. | May 08 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] see? replying to myself ffs | May 08 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, sorta, still in context from a different convo but replying to myself | May 08 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We like open source" -Microsoft. "Darwin was a brilliant man" -Ben Stein. "We champion peace" -{insert US president} | May 08 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I guess like anything else, it's just about getting use to it's quirks | May 08 10:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @rrix I'll add you ASAP. I'm on the road ATM. | May 08 10:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fabsh No rush, good sir. Thans! | May 08 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ahh had a look at the .identicurse file in /home, it lists all the aliases, keys etc #identicurse | May 08 10:46 | |
| DaemonFC | jono, How's Travesty been treating you? | May 08 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | errr, I mean, Unity :) | May 08 10:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It could be worse they could have a sony like problem with there online services. | May 08 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I've never been clear on how Indicator Crapplet implements a freedesktop.org spec (they never say what one) | May 08 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | but isn't breaking the standard desktop notifications and system tray applets that are used by every desktop environment breaking a de facto standard? | May 08 10:52 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there is a notifier spec developed by KDE | May 08 10:52 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that the indicator uses. | May 08 10:53 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Gnome is against it. | May 08 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | KDE doesn't have the Indicator Crapplet though | May 08 10:53 |
| oiaohm | But Gnome being gnome said nothing in the freedesktop mailing list they the hated it. | May 08 10:53 |
| oiaohm | Until it was allready past. | May 08 10:53 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: KDE has a proper binary the i in a circle icon on | May 08 10:54 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that lives in the system tray. | May 08 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | Design doesn't mean tossing the HIG of Windows and OS X into a blender and managing to fuck up their way of doing things even worse | May 08 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | and that's what Unity does | May 08 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Basically there is a notifier spec. | May 08 10:55 |
| oiaohm | But it not releated to the other mangling unity does. | May 08 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | another thing Unity does that makes no sense | May 08 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | is to hide the menu items of the application you're working with until you mouse over the global menu | May 08 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's just stupid | May 08 10:56 |
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| oiaohm | I have never liked the global menu idea. | May 08 10:57 |
| oiaohm | its why I don't use apple machine. | May 08 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | of course, so little of what Unity does makes sense that it's probably pointless to talk about any one thing | May 08 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | they're all part of a global problem | May 08 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | when it does everything just a little wrong | May 08 10:57 |
| MinceR | except the things it does very wrong | May 08 10:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Reading links, 7 May edition: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/reading-links-7-may-edition | May 08 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] April 2011 Progress Report: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/april-2011-progress-report | May 08 10:58 | |
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| oiaohm | Unity just puts a public face on what Ubuntu has been doing in background for years. DaemonFC | May 08 10:58 |
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| oiaohm | Lets push too fast too quick and hope the house does not fall on us. | May 08 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu doesn't feel too broken | May 08 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, it's one of the nicer KDE distributions | May 08 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Ok when. | May 08 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Kubuntu tried staying with 3.5 sub branch for a while. | May 08 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure they figure it's worth their time to screw up KDE | May 08 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu only sometimes makes a good Kubuntu | May 08 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | you can use Kubuntu with the Trinity PPA or the Trinity Live CD | May 08 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | but why? | May 08 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants KDE 3.5 on a modern system? | May 08 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Kubuntu was shipping Trinity by default at one point. | May 08 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you do, great | May 08 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | not that I know of | May 08 11:01 |
| oiaohm | While it was highly borked | May 08 11:01 |
| oiaohm | 9.04 | May 08 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Stay well clear. | May 08 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off for a day on the Shadow. | May 08 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @schestowitz: "We like open source" -Microsoft. "Darwin was a brilliant man" -Ben Stein. "We champion peace" -{insert US president} | May 08 11:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone wants KDE 3.5 | May 08 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | Trinity is barely even maintained | May 08 11:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: then they had the fetish for a while of trying to theme KDE into gnome. | May 08 11:02 |
| oiaohm | Thank god they grew out of that. | May 08 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's maintained well enough that nothing is badly broken | May 08 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not exactly aging well | May 08 11:02 |
| oiaohm | KDE 4.x was not started for no good reason. | May 08 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's more like a zombie than a fork | May 08 11:03 |
| oiaohm | 3.5 was and still is majorally internally screwed up. | May 08 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Sony and “friends” Or transparent damage limitation open letter style? http://tinyurl.com/66tpzdp !sony !ps3 !psn !playstation3 | May 08 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Mole at #Nokia Harmed People and Harmed Free Software, Microsoft Moles at Juniper Put Internet Users at Risk http://is.gd/sd4DQ1 | May 08 11:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft’s Mole at Nokia Harmed People and Harmed Free Software, Microsoft Moles at #Juniper Put Internet Users at Risk http://is.gd/sd4DQ1 | May 08 11:03 | |
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| oiaohm | 3.5 was a walking zombie 2 years before 4.0 release. DaemonFC | May 08 11:03 |
| MinceR | 115941 < oiaohm> Kubuntu tried staying with 3.5 sub branch for a while. | May 08 11:05 |
| MinceR | not nearly long enough. | May 08 11:05 |
| oiaohm | trinity branch was not healthy. MinceR | May 08 11:06 |
| oiaohm | More they try to update 3.5 to support qt 4.x the more its becoming a larger mess. | May 08 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a who's who of #California based privacy abusing corps? http://is.gd/q5yoF0 | May 08 11:06 | |
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| MinceR | they shipped 4.1 with intrepid and 4.2 with jaunty | May 08 11:06 |
| MinceR | both sucked a lot | May 08 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Note I said sub branch. | May 08 11:07 |
| oiaohm | If they had stayed with mainline kde they would have been able to stay on it longer. | May 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | hardy was plain 3.5, afaict | May 08 11:07 |
| MinceR | i see no trinity there | May 08 11:07 |
| oiaohm | They took parts from trinity. | May 08 11:08 |
| MinceR | which ones? | May 08 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | 3.5 was aging poorly before 4.0 was even out | May 08 11:08 |
| oiaohm | On block to hook to dbus instead of dcop and other things. | May 08 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | 4.x series is stable enough now that using 3.x for anything is really dumb | May 08 11:08 |
| oiaohm | Really now making a 4.x sub branch to provide a 3.5 look would be ok. | May 08 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Everything Trinity adds seems to cause a graft rejection somewhere along to line | May 08 11:10 |
| oiaohm | But trinity trying to take the 3.5 codebase and update it is kinda doomed. | May 08 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not hard to make KDE 4.x look like 3.x | May 08 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | the Plastique theme and Plastik window decorations and the Crystal icon set | May 08 11:10 |
| oiaohm | 4.x made to 3.5 could be go on a memory foot print reduction. | May 08 11:11 |
| oiaohm | Ie plasma replaced with a light render desktop icons only. | May 08 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gbraad !bitcoin #iPhone App/client denied! http://is.gd/PaBGpU I would say, move to #Cydia or move away from #iOS. | May 08 11:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Windows Killer Feature: It Kills GNU/Linux Partitioning http://is.gd/EuRHqF #windows #gnu #linux #grub #oem #sabotage ... | May 08 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] companies who make browsers with "do-not-track" features & lobby to block legislation on it are in favour of what? Good PR with no teeth? | May 08 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "we'll give the feature to get good PR knowing nobody is forced to actually respect it so it won't make ANY real difference" | May 08 11:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is the Register owned by #Microsoft? http://is.gd/9Lsgdw TWO MS Office links in a story about tracking legislation, not even Microsoft | May 08 11:25 | |
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| MinceR | duh | May 08 11:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT BarrettBrownLOL Chapter of book #HBGary CEO Aaron Barr was writing on net skillz: social eng! http://tinyurl.com/3pqudn2 #anonymous | May 08 11:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Time to join @tdfischer 's minecraft server, it would seem | May 08 11:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @firusvg 6 Microblogging clients for !Linux http://is.gd/FJghZx | May 08 11:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] KLM are awesome. They deserve your money. Just sayin'. | May 08 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @rms Mozilla rejects a request http://ur1.ca/442tt | May 08 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anatomical clues to human #evolution from fish - http://bbc.in/jImiq2 do not miss incredible video of where our face comes from (v @jdub) | May 08 11:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UbuntuHQ : Opera gets some Unity love; tab badge, quicklists and more 17203 at http://bit.ly/mAuSFa !operafans | May 08 11:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I love our new coffee machine \o/ | May 08 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having a Nescafé Dolce Gusto Latte Macchiato from an Ubuntu mug... perfect! | May 08 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] gm-notify is awesome! | May 08 11:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LibreOffice books published - http://bit.ly/lMrzf9 free downloads available #opensource | May 08 12:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lol! My !lxhica (invented) support moderator is called Steve Shole > sshole > @sshole :) | May 08 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Writer Embraces Free Culture - http://bit.ly/l6wks9 "The site that had stolen my work was actually sending me traffic." #sharing | May 08 12:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh No Way! There's already a "real" @asshole on identica 0.o :( *sigh* | May 08 12:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh No Way! There's already a "real" @sshole on identica 0.o :( *sigh* | May 08 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @richslxh there needs to be a @fakeasshole then | May 08 12:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody: Another Writer Embraces Free Culture http://bit.ly/l6wks9 site that had "stolen" work actually sending traffic #sharing | May 08 12:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @richslxh or perhaps @rsehole UK stylee | May 08 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody #LibreOffice books published - http://bit.ly/lMrzf9 free downloads available #opensource | May 08 12:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well that was a VERY short burst of very heavy rain | May 08 12:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux Today : #SUSE Manager 1.2 Taps !RedHat Technology to Rein In Enterprise Linux Servers http://bit.ly/lUjdON | May 08 12:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's starting to look like !Redhat is doing all the work lately while others are riding on it? | May 08 12:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Martin Gräßlin On Stability http://goo.gl/6Rfw1 !kde !kubuntu | May 08 13:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @robsanchez ♺ @glynmoody: Writer Embraces Free Culture http://bit.ly/l6wks9 "The site that had stolen my work was actually sending me ... | May 08 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !lazyweb, is there a way to *stop* #Zabbix php front-end from refreshing a screen every 30s? on GPRS the graphs aren't able to load... | May 08 13:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] about Node.js support on Windows: 'Don't waste your time', 'No, Windows is important. Just like PHP' 1:08 http://is.gd/qLYzHT | May 08 13:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 146 million downloads on 2011-05-08 12:52 UTC | May 08 13:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Library of Congress builds record collection of century - http://lat.ms/jitcQD locked away by copyright (v @stevesilberman @brianbehlendorf) | May 08 14:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] trying #HeyBuddy as an alternative on the netbook | May 08 14:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] javascript, git, orgmode, python... and unfortunately php dominating my workflow these days | May 08 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All Filler, no Killer - http://bit.ly/kDYG6L web comic licensed under #cc by-sa | May 08 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @earlofego: ready for #IPv6 day -?- http://test-ipv6.com/ #Linux | May 08 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 4 people got injured when Apple iPad 2 sales started in Beijing and Shanghai last Friday. !OnlyInChina http://is.gd/X4JcU9 | May 08 14:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What a great day for a bike tour! :D | May 08 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks releases cables on Japan's history with nuclear power http://alturl.com/xvthb | May 08 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @osamak RT @gbraad #bitcoin #iPhone App/client denied! http://is.gd/PaBGpU I would say, move to #Cydia or move away from #iOS. | May 08 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @fscons #FSCONS Video: @Kyrah - Keynote: The Inanna Project - http://vimeo.com/22239127 #artists #hackers #women #FreeSoftware #FreeH ... | May 08 15:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Another Writer Embraces Free Culture - http://bit.ly/l6wks9 "The site that had stolen my work was actually sending me traf ... | May 08 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Kebrum VPN Client for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7247 #N900 #Maemo | May 08 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Nelisquare - Foursquare client for the Nokia N900 / Maemo 5: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7245 #N900 #Maemo | May 08 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: mmmRemotePhoneControl - remotely control the N900 from another phone via Bluetooth: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7246 #N900 #Maemo | May 08 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LyX 2.0.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/441976/rss | May 08 15:35 | |
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| :-D | May 08 15:35 | |
| I'm having more fun with VMs | May 08 15:36 | |
| while I wait for Trinity to become an official debian package, I can run lenny in a VM. | May 08 15:37 | |
| this gives me back my kicker and KDE 3 PIM stuff. | May 08 15:37 | |
| that way, I can compare these side by side to the 4 branch | May 08 15:38 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QYwsM17a2M&NR=1&feature=fvwp | May 08 15:39 |
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| I moved up to KDE 4.4, the testing branch, but there are still some issues that bug me. | May 08 15:39 | |
| amarsh04 | twitter: I'm just having fun with "logcheck" and "fetchnews" in Debian: fetchnews dumps a heap of messages that logcheck can't process easily | May 08 15:39 |
| interesting | May 08 15:39 | |
| I like akregator | May 08 15:40 | |
| the search feature is very handy | May 08 15:40 | |
| and I'm starting to get a good library of news built up | May 08 15:41 | |
| !google fetchnews debian package | May 08 15:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Recent Changes - Leafnode, an easy to use NNTP news server for ... | http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/NEWS.txt | May 08 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Which linux install for a 'fetch news' only server? - MobileRead ... | http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D131804 | May 08 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bug#623302: leafnode: excessive logging of old articles causing ... | https://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/05311882f5edc48b/b145369a77410e83%3Flnk%3Draot | May 08 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - cron & leafnode - Ubuntu | http://www.justskins.com/forums/cron-and-leafnode-111777.html | May 08 15:41 |
| having Techrights and GL News feeds in akregator is a good reality check. Makes writing stuff like this easier http://techrights.org/2011/05/08/how-msft-harmed-kde/#comment-116858 | May 08 15:43 | |
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| Microsoft floods the news with nonsense and tries hard to filter and spin damaging stuff out of search results. | May 08 15:45 | |
| for instance, my Vista Failure Log was a first page Google result for the phrase "Vista Failure" Soon after I blogged it, there was series of articles with "Vista Failure" in the title, notably "The Seven Pillars of Vista Failure" | May 08 15:47 | |
| amarsh04 | the [3] match but #623302 is me | May 08 15:48 |
| amarsh04 | bug #623302 rather | May 08 15:48 |
| 11 pillars by Dvorak, actually | May 08 15:49 | |
| Ha, I see that I'm back on the first page of results. Last on the first, cool. | May 08 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] In #France people sign large banderole against !Fracking http://bit.ly/lW8XAu !umwelt !nature !green | May 08 15:50 | |
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| sadly, my Windows 7 failure log is not first page search result | May 08 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Exim 4.76 fixes a remote security hole http://lwn.net/Articles/441978/rss | May 08 15:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exim 4.76 fixes a remote security hole [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.03 KB | May 08 15:51 |
| not for "Windows 7 failure" or "Windows 7 failure log" | May 08 15:52 | |
| you have to put quotes on "windows 7 failure log" to get it. there are lots of windows 7 logon failure articles that get in the way. | May 08 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] via @rms LA is suing Deutsche Bank <http://ur1.ca/444p1> for fraudulent foreclosures and illegal evictions. | May 08 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] via @rms media condemned Gaddafi's use of cluster bombs—but didn't condemn US <http://ur1.ca/444p5> for using them in Iraq &elsewhere | May 08 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] via @rms former minister says Taliban offered in Oct 2001 <http://ur1.ca/444ph> to hand over OBL for trial...Bush did not care | May 08 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Hide Facebook Like notification from notification bar - http://ur1.ca/444pm http://ur1.ca/444pn GM Script | May 08 15:55 | |
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| har har, I'm a lame brain! http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2009/January_2009/msg01580.html | May 08 15:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Re: Here's what Linux lusers do .::. Size~: 7.34 KB | May 08 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] via @rms Haiti's president Martelly, elected by 1/6 vote, is connected w US-arranged coup <http://ur1.ca/444pv> that overthrew Aristide | May 08 15:56 | |
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| I'm glad Sermo Malifer enjoyed reading my work. | May 08 15:57 | |
| it is interesting to see the tactics used to discredit me in the wider gnu/linux community | May 08 16:02 | |
| I'm a lame brain that does not contribute to code.... half of that statement is partially true | May 08 16:03 | |
| it's called specialization and it's healthy for a community | May 08 16:03 | |
| I'm not the world's best coder but I do enjoy and have gotten good at logging Microsoft failure and spin. | May 08 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LWN.net : Exim 4.76 fixes a remote security hole http://ping.fm/IuF3v | May 08 16:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In the court of Carla Bruni - http://bit.ly/j9zZTq I fear she has been one of the driving forces behind #3strikes & its collateral damage | May 08 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks releases cables on Japan's history with nuclear power http://alturl.com/xvthb | May 08 16:08 | |
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| amarsh04 | I'm sure that I've made a healthy contribution to bugs.debian.org | May 08 16:10 |
| amarsh04 | one does not have to code to improve the code base | May 08 16:11 |
| my point is not about coding, it's about Microsoft's divisive techniques. | May 08 16:18 | |
| to put it another way, imagine someone telling you that LWN is a detriment to the gnu/linux community because the editors don't contribute to the linux kernel. | May 08 16:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #tinap the topical time machine ;P | May 08 16:20 | |
| it's silly | May 08 16:20 | |
| I'm flattered to see people quoting the Windows 7 failure log. http://www.hackingnetflix.com/2009/05/techcrunch-asks-netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-about-streaming.html | May 08 16:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unnatural selection: Fish growing up fast - http://bit.ly/jue2Hk "to be taken in account if fisheries are to be managed in sustainable way" | May 08 16:21 | |
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| http://www.osnews.com/comments/21770?view=nested&perpage=5&order=o&sort=&threshold=4 | May 08 16:21 | |
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| see Astralknight | May 08 16:22 | |
| I've seen people claiming that I'm Astralknight, that's funny | May 08 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | who is he anyway? | May 08 16:23 |
| *Diablo-D3 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | May 08 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | I thought it might be another person with uglier names | May 08 16:23 |
| schestowitz | thankfully it's gone | May 08 16:23 |
| schestowitz | same for other "smears by association" to us | May 08 16:23 |
| schestowitz | There's some az[something] in identica whom they use to smear us with | May 08 16:24 |
| astralknight? | May 08 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | It's always better to be polite | May 08 16:24 |
| I agree it's best to be polite. | May 08 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | if rude people appear, they get ignored | May 08 16:24 |
| that's why trolls are always rude | May 08 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Artist Slays Louis #Vuitton in Intellectual Property Dispute - http://bit.ly/maC30w good win | May 08 16:25 | |
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| the astralknight name seems to be used a lot | May 08 16:25 | |
| I would not be surprised if Microsoft people post under that name to defame the author | May 08 16:25 | |
| that's why, when I post outside of Slashdot or Techrights, I always point back to something no Microsoft person would link back to. | May 08 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Infiltrator Wants #Canonical to Foster #Mono as Canonical CTO (Who Opposed Mono) Leaves http://is.gd/9CqZwq #ubuntu | May 08 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Infiltrator Wants Canonical to Foster Mono as Canonical CTO (Who Opposed Mono) Leaves http://is.gd/9CqZwq #swpats #Trojan | May 08 16:26 | |
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| schestowitz | it would be good to have a show about trolls in slashdot and abuse against people | May 08 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully a chance for you also to explain multiple accounts, which I never endorsed BTW | May 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | If people bring that up, I can link to the response | May 08 16:27 |
| I've explained multiple accounts already and don't use them anymore. | May 08 16:27 | |
| schestowitz | Actually, it was Tim's idea to do this | May 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | He was the one suggesting that we do a show where I answer the hard question about smears against me | May 08 16:27 |
| the trolls mod bombed me, so I had to use other accounts | May 08 16:28 | |
| the questions are not so hard | May 08 16:28 | |
| people smear you | May 08 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | I don't know how slashdot karma works, except the visibilty part | May 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | my slashdot karma is "excellent" and has been so for ages | May 08 16:29 |
| they can't refute what you have to say, so they say you are irresponsible, radical, a liar etc. | May 08 16:29 | |
| the karma system works by moderation | May 08 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | yes | May 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | meta-moderators too | May 08 16:29 |
| if you get negative mods, your karma drops | May 08 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | But meta-mods can also be trolls | May 08 16:29 |
| every one of my accounts was bombed to "terrible" | May 08 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | I was mod-bombed in Digg by trolls | May 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | And I produced proof, then they also admitted this | May 08 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] microblogging takes a little while after you speak to be heard by others, #tinap is just doing the audio equivalent of the same ;) | May 08 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | They would systematically go through my ~40 comments a day and mod-bomb all of them | May 08 16:30 |
| yes | May 08 16:30 | |
| they also spend a lot of time trash talking everywhere | May 08 16:30 | |
| for instance, Boycott Novell is trash talked in both of the treads I linked to above. | May 08 16:31 | |
| err, one of them. | May 08 16:31 | |
| I looked up the $20 gnu/linux majority market share bet the other day and saw the same kinds of attacks against the author there. | May 08 16:32 | |
| they discouraged Beth by telling her she was a detriment to the larger community. | May 08 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody In the court of Carla Bruni - http://bit.ly/j9zZTq She has been 1 of the forces behind #3strikes & its collateral damage | May 08 16:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In the court of Carla Bruni | Culture | The Observer .::. Size~: 275.42 KB | May 08 16:33 |
| this is an effective tactic because it makes the person self censor | May 08 16:33 | |
| but it's bullshit put in by Microsoft people. | May 08 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Can TV Commercials get any dumber? | May 08 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if #Chelsea don't get their arses in gear this game will be over by half time as a contest !United | May 08 16:35 | |
| this is an interesting link http://whatwillweuse.com/2011/03/06/charting-it-out-how-will-market-share-change/ | May 08 16:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Charting it out – How will market share change? | What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 60.12 KB | May 08 16:36 |
| Beth is a lot closer to winning her bet than I expected. | May 08 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 08 16:40 |
| schestowitz | android | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | she hasn't written in a while | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | she sometimes comes to IRC | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | the BN channel, not TR | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:33] <twitter> they discouraged Beth by telling her she was a detriment to the larger community. | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Got URL? | May 08 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:36] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Charting it out ? How will market share change? | What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 60.12 KB | May 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | !google android majority united states 2011 | May 08 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Links 6/5/2011: Linux-powered Android Phones Take Majority Share ... | http://techrights.org/2011/05/06/linux-majority-share/ | May 08 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Official Google Blog: A new look for Google Translate for Android | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-look-for-google-translate-for.html | May 08 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google turns Android smartphones into interpreters | http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-google-android-smartphones.html | May 08 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Technology RULES: Majority Shift To Smartphones « The Mobile Marketer | http://themobilemarketer.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/technology-rules-majority-shift-to-smartphones/ | May 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Heh. TR in []1] | May 08 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] uwaga: rysio ma braga! http://rys.io/ | wersja alpha. ikona do zmiany. layout do dopracowania. tylko świeży webkit i firefox. ale jest. :) | May 08 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eulogy for #Novell http://is.gd/lWZtPn | May 08 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Eulogy for !Novell http://is.gd/lWZtPn | May 08 16:51 | |
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| I'm looking, it was in her opening post on the what will we use blog -> (08:47:40 AM) schestowitz: [16:33] <twitter> they discouraged Beth by telling her she was a detriment to the larger community. | May 08 16:52 | |
| (08:47:42 AM) schestowitz: Got URL? | May 08 16:52 | |
| ah ha, http://whatwillweuse.com/2009/12/23/more-fud-please/ | May 08 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More FUD Please | What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 95.92 KB | May 08 16:58 |
| "I quote Linuxjournal and whatwillweuse, and linuxtoday, boycottnovell, slashdot, (I could do this all day for anti-MS Fud).So you do it all day and show me all the nasty web sites you know of from MS that spread FUD about FOSS…. PLEASE…" | May 08 17:01 | |
| "Otherwise you are really no better than they are, and if you cant show your sources you are far worse then they are, which is not a good look IMO.." | May 08 17:01 | |
| "When you could actually compete on quality and functionality, and all the effort in fighting MS could be redirected in creating a better FOSS world." | May 08 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | signed by... | May 08 17:03 |
| schestowitz | "Linux lover"? | May 08 17:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell by Any Other Name http://is.gd/XQxxMk #asstroturfing #sco #tsg #attachmate | May 08 17:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell by Any Other Name | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.74 KB | May 08 17:03 |
| "When you say things like “windows crashes all the time” most people who actually USE windows think “do these guys/gals actually know ANYTHING about computers” if they cant get windows stable they have no right commenting about software quality and reliability or security as clearly you dont have a clue." | May 08 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | HTTP stamp: MSIE8,0.Windows 7? | May 08 17:03 |
| Yeah, Beth was using Windows 7, sad. | May 08 17:04 | |
| I don't think that's the case anymore. | May 08 17:04 | |
| People who use Windows on the desktop are more apt to fall for M$ fud about gnu/linux desktops. | May 08 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Novell by Any Other Name http://is.gd/XQxxMk #spin #branding | May 08 17:05 | |
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| schestowitz | > The audio for TechBytes would be much improved if all participants had | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > the same loudness. Ideally, the sound quality should be the same for | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > everyone, too. | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | We are still hoping to resolve this, esp. the volume part. Something changed recently, for unknown reasons. | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | twitter: no, I means commenters who abuse her | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Pretending to be Linux supporters | May 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Telling her off | May 08 17:05 |
| yes, they pretend to be gnu/linux people there. | May 08 17:06 | |
| but it's clear that they were Microsoft apologists | May 08 17:06 | |
| *ThistleWind (~ThistleWi@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrights | May 08 17:07 | |
| sadly, she says she's using Windows to answer another common troll tactic, which is to accuse the gnu/linux person of incompetence and ignorance if they are not running the latest trash from Microsoft | May 08 17:07 | |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | May 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | > Have you thought about taking a few days off from the day job and | May 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | > networking over at LinuxTag ? | May 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.linuxtag.org/2011/en.html | May 08 17:07 |
| schestowitz | I see that Microsoft is still a major "Partner", buying itself some talks to repel the pro-Linux crowd. I should really write about this | May 08 17:07 |
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| hey, I see she saw my comment and took it out of the moderation queue http://whatwillweuse.com/2009/12/23/more-fud-please/comment-page-1/#comment-16752 | May 08 17:09 | |
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| very good of her | May 08 17:09 | |
| Thanks, Beth! | May 08 17:09 | |
| I've seen the trolls taunt Pogson with the same nonsense, you can't possible know how great Windows 7 is because you are not running it. | May 08 17:10 | |
| ha ha | May 08 17:10 | |
| "Oldman" is big on this. | May 08 17:10 | |
| tells Pogson he won't get a job if he does not get with the Microsoft program. | May 08 17:11 | |
| it is more likely that Microsoft somehow got Pogson fired | May 08 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] We went to the bobek pub, near the venue of the !uds | May 08 17:11 | |
| whisper campaign, etc | May 08 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I stand corrected #heybuddy does now auto refresh, it didn't earlier #odd | May 08 17:13 | |
| My wife joked that Osama was betrayed in the Play Station crack when she saw pictures of his compound with gaming stuff. I thought that was funny. | May 08 17:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Please help the Libre Graphics Meeting next week and donate a few dollars to the volunteer-run conference -- http://ur1.ca/3lsut | May 08 17:18 | |
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| schestowitz | The evangelical version of PS3 games might have obama for osama | May 08 17:26 |
| schestowitz | They call him the "anti-Christ" | May 08 17:26 |
| I imagine him playing the part of Taliban in some games | May 08 17:27 | |
| sitting on the couch in a cinderblock hole, playing games ... then in swoops the seals | May 08 17:28 | |
| ThistleWind | with a super turban cheat that means he explodes like a bomb when killed taking out a huge radius of people? | May 08 17:28 |
| schestowitz | [10:33] <MinceR> http://redd.it/ewnib | May 08 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | [15:56] <schestowitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thn9Hnu__pU&feature=related | May 08 17:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Has Neutered #LinuxTag 2011 (Again) http://is.gd/nPrmQS #freesoftware #intrusion #novell #spin #realitydistortion | May 08 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Has Neutered LinuxTag 2011 (Again) http://is.gd/nPrmQS #eu #germany #gnu #linux | May 08 17:28 | |
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| tell me about it, I live in the bible belt now | May 08 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWind: LOL | May 08 17:28 |
| ThistleWind | or a sample that shouts Alah Uh Ackba with every kill | May 08 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I've just received a clever email scam | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Re: Fwd: Notice: SCHESTOWITZ.com Expiring | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | > | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | > Domain Name: SCHESTOWITZ.COM | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | They put it together cleverly | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | it's a scam | May 08 17:30 |
| schestowitz | It almost looks real | May 08 17:31 |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw | May 08 17:31 | |
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| schestowitz | ICANN should sue their pants off | May 08 17:31 |
| 'Walmart, F.... Yeah!" | May 08 17:31 | |
| schestowitz | LOL http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/67190189608538112 http://twitter.com/theingolf/statuses/67198910359281665 | May 08 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @directhex: From the #techrights IRC archives: "Oz_: non-free = rape = mono jono" - I think he means you, @jonobacon | May 08 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @theingolf: @directhex Why are you ppl waste your time reading #techrights IRC archives? There is nothing valuable in there, isn't it? | May 08 17:32 |
| schestowitz | nitpicking | May 08 17:32 |
| of course | May 08 17:33 | |
| they don't have anything substantial to say | May 08 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Tomato Factory? | May 08 17:35 | |
| schestowitz | Some of today's post I typed out in the sun | May 08 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Near the river | May 08 17:35 |
| schestowitz | *posts | May 08 17:35 |
| schestowitz | It's an experiment I do... sometimes typing between sets at the gym, but only if no people are around at the time | May 08 17:35 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna launch a new site soon | May 08 17:35 |
| schestowitz | I need my friend to come over and work on it with me | May 08 17:36 |
| I used to hang out in a coffee shop and post here and there. | May 08 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @boycottnovell but LinuxTag has always been Biz oriented? | May 08 17:36 | |
| portable computing is a wonderful thing | May 08 17:36 | |
| Windows malware problem spun as php and google image problem -> http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10989 | May 08 17:42 | |
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| no one would bother if Windows were not such an easy thing to drive by 0wn | May 08 17:43 | |
| I saw that Facebook wants to buy Skype. What a disaster that is. | May 08 17:44 | |
| http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/rumor-facebook-wants-to-buy-skype/1354 | May 08 17:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rumor: Facebook wants to buy Skype | ZDNet .::. Size~: 107.23 KB | May 08 17:45 |
| time to make free software SIP work | May 08 17:45 | |
| it's bad enough that it's non free software and might be malicious | May 08 17:46 | |
| if Facebook/Microsoft buys them, the software will surely be malicious | May 08 17:46 | |
| their gnu/linux support would evaporate, of course | May 08 17:46 | |
| so it really should be seen as an anti-trust issue and prevented | May 08 17:47 | |
| Microsoft buying something to hurt gnu/linux, again. | May 08 17:47 | |
| Carrier made Android is malicious http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/05/03/2335254/Google-Allows-Carriers-To-Ban-Tethering-Apps?utm_source=rss1.0&utm_medium=feed | May 08 17:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Allows Carriers To Ban Tethering Apps - Slashdot .::. Size~: 150.64 KB | May 08 17:48 |
| iluvcapra writes "Google, in its continuing struggle to provide phone carriers (if not its end users) with an open platform, is now banning tethering apps from the Android market. These apps haven't disappeared and can still be sideloaded, insofar as your carrier doesn't lock this functionality or snoop on your packets." | May 08 17:48 | |
| I'm not sure how that can be a claim of "Google Allows" | May 08 17:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/72959701 | May 08 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Sunday, 08-May-11 16:34:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @boycottnovell but LinuxTag has always been Biz oriented? | May 08 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Signal Versus Noise http://is.gd/9hZC0q Why !Techrights looks at the issues and not the gossip, despite the popularity of the latter | May 08 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Signal Versus Noise http://is.gd/9hZC0q Why #Techrights looks at the issues and not the gossip, despite the popularity of the latter | May 08 17:50 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe not Microsoft oriented,. though | May 08 17:50 |
| Android is not copyleft, as carriers demanded, so user freedom can be stripped. | May 08 17:50 | |
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| Microsoft funding brings Microsoft strings | May 08 17:50 | |
| *ThistleWind has quit (Quit: ThistleWind) | May 08 17:51 | |
| Just letting a Microsoft person have a panel or microphone is bad news. | May 08 17:51 | |
| you know, "injecting Microsoft" to kill the conference | May 08 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | "I saw him and he was like... real human.." | May 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | "So I don't want to insult Microsoft" | May 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | "Coz insulting Microsoft is like hurting and robbing *this man*:" | May 08 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Like having Capon's mom pleading to the jury | May 08 17:54 |
| schestowitz | *capone | May 08 17:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what are the chances of !United celebrating having won the title, only to switch off for the last 2 games & lose on goal difference? | May 08 18:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66886719613583360 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66888029939302400 | May 08 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 I don't hope they get to assert more. The CAFC case law must be applied properly by the lower court. It's about the RIGHT number. | May 08 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 What I'm against is arbitariness by a judge. If you want that as it helps Google now, it will come back to haunt you elsewhere. | May 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: hi; Ender2070 I see you had battles | May 08 18:08 |
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| _Goblin | > | May 08 18:08 |
| _Goblin | > | May 08 18:08 |
| _Goblin | ? | May 08 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | Now I get this in my RSS feed http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66888742618677248 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66889921620738050 | May 08 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 Why aren't you up in arms over Google and Mozilla sharing a lawyer who CAMPAIGNS FOR software patents? cc: @schestowitz | May 08 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 cc: @schestowitz Look at this: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/40676.html Google/Mozilla lawyer says sw patents BETTER than (c) | May 08 18:09 |
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| schestowitz | cause he's trying to incite vs GOOG | May 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you listen to 4? | May 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you listen to 44? Were the filters OK? | May 08 18:09 |
| _Goblin | no not yet,,, | May 08 18:09 |
| linux insider has microsoft inside | May 08 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | Try all versions | May 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | To verify nothing messes them up | May 08 18:09 |
| _Goblin | oh....filter wise yes I did...I havent listened to the whole show | May 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I made all 3 files smaller | May 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | and now mono means monophonic | May 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | mono project is dead | May 08 18:10 |
| _Goblin | fancy doing a double act a little later? | May 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Yes, definitely | May 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Video too? | May 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | I ran in the sun today | May 08 18:10 |
| sun burn? | May 08 18:10 | |
| _Goblin | cool...Ive got some topics that I was to concentrate on which is harder the more of us there are. | May 08 18:10 |
| _Goblin | *want | May 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | I made 8 blog posts today, as well | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | 3 of them I wrote outside | May 08 18:12 |
| cool posts too, thanks | May 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | and now I code a bit | May 08 18:12 |
| deconstructing Linux Insider noise | May 08 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: hardly possible in British May | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Unless you really try.. | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I don't think _Goblin can burn | May 08 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I used to have more tan. | May 08 18:12 |
| _Goblin | I cant! | May 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Images/images2.htm | May 08 18:13 |
| _Goblin | My skin tone goes very dark... | May 08 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Now I spend too much time at home | May 08 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Images: Childhood Photos .::. Size~: 2.1 KB | May 08 18:13 |
| _Goblin | I ease of tanning is the envy of many! | May 08 18:13 |
| "Once upon a time, we intellectual property lawyers got to live peacefully in our ivory towers." what a crazy thing to say about people who are trying to own the work of others by inventing government monopolies on math. | May 08 18:13 | |
| _Goblin | *my | May 08 18:13 |
| "Now it seems that intellectual property policy issues have become fraught with partisan rhetoric. Most open-source promoters are against software patents. Most corporate spokesmen side with patents, period, whether they cover software or not. But it is worth looking beyond the rhetoric." | May 08 18:14 | |
| It is dishonest of the author to compare the statements of practitioners, often unpaid volunteers, with carefully crafted corporate PR | May 08 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: source..? | May 08 18:14 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: twitter has had a reputation problem and the trolls are partly respoinsible | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | So earlier I brought that up | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | They mod-bombed him out of existence in slashdot | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | and he created new account with standard karma | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | And I told him how you had suggested doing something to misspell the smears | May 08 18:15 |
| That stupid article that Florian Muller tweeted. http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/40676.html | May 08 18:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Tech Buzz: The Fuzzy Software Patent Debate Rages On .::. Size~: 71.03 KB | May 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | jono perpetuated this smear behind the accused person's back in FLOSS Weekly | May 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | No chance to defend himself | May 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | let's see who wrote for ECT | May 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Meeker? Who's she? | May 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "Heather Meeker is a shareholder at the international law firm Greenberg Traurig, LLP, " | May 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Of course. | May 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "I'm being balanced" | May 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | "looking beyond the rhetoric." | May 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Ask her: | May 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | how many software programmes did you produce? | May 08 18:17 |
| Microsoft Florian, above taunts that Google and Red Hat have hired her. | May 08 18:17 | |
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| schestowitz | "She advises clients regularly on open-source licensing issues " | May 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | I know the type | May 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | So does Black ***** | May 08 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I probably say this every time there is a new !Doctorwho , but I think the latest Doctor is the excellent and better than the last.... | May 08 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: maybe they hired her to keep her quiet or on their side | May 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | That's the business model | May 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | For anal-ysts | May 08 18:18 |
| schestowitz | "Pay me. I'll make you look better" | May 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66894144097890304 | May 08 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @jwildeboer How do you view the fact that GOOG uses this lawyer against ORCL? http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/40676.html Remember 2005... | May 08 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Linux News: Tech Buzz: The Fuzzy Software Patent Debate Rages On .::. Size~: 69.27 KB | May 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/66907146419318784 | May 08 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @ender2070 The article I linked to was that lawyer's contribution to the then-ongoing debate over software patents in the EU. | May 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Oh, great! | May 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Like Florian? The lobbyist? | May 08 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/TechPatentWatch/status/66907357262786560 | May 08 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @TechPatentWatch: #Google granted 97 #patents in 2011 as of today. | May 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/66888312111104000 | May 08 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: Google and Mozilla share a lawyer who's a pro-software-patent campaigner and says patents are BETTER for open source software than copyright | May 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/66887134585421825 | May 08 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: @FOSSpatents Everyone who is against #swpats doesn't want to see them used whatsoever. | May 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Exactluy | May 08 18:21 |
| the article is from 2005, and the author is basically clueless. | May 08 18:23 | |
| she does not seem to know why there was an explosion of software patents in the US in the 90s - one bad court decision | May 08 18:24 | |
| and she asks, "So, what I would like anti-patent activists to consider is this: Are software patents really a bad idea? Or just a good idea, badly executed? Or a good idea, executed as well as good ideas tend to get executed in the real world? By posing this question, I hope to retreat to my ivory tower for a while, with a cold compress, while the rhetoric subsides enough for me to take a nice nap -- at least until the EU takes up the que | May 08 18:24 | |
| Hopefully, she's read enough by now to have a clear answer to why patents are a bad idea for software and math | May 08 18:25 | |
| and she might also understand that free software people don't want to "protect" software by excluding others from basic computer functions | May 08 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | 2005?! | May 08 18:26 |
| schestowitz | No wonder! | May 08 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't paid attention at all | May 08 18:26 |
| the idea is the opposite, to use copyright to protect people's software freedom and assure that users can do what they want with their computers. | May 08 18:26 | |
| schestowitz | Back then Florian was already busy becoming a lobbyist now for Red Hat | May 08 18:26 |
| 02/23/05 5:00 AM PT | May 08 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | 6 years ago | May 08 18:27 |
| I think that means February 23, 2005 | May 08 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | I was 23 | May 08 18:27 |
| right | May 08 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | and not part of the swpats debate. Many weren't | May 08 18:27 |
| schestowitz | It's only more recently that backlash and lawsuits (even trolls) woke people up | May 08 18:27 |
| Microsoft only started their public attack in 2004 | May 08 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | asia? | May 08 18:28 |
| schestowitz | !google thergistr governments ballmer linux patents | May 08 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | May 08 18:28 |
| schestowitz | !google theregister governments ballmer linux patents | May 08 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Use Linux and you will be sued, Ballmer tells governments • The ... | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/18/ballmer_linux_lawsuits/ | May 08 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ballmer: Linux is Communist | http://old.4hv.org/index.php%3Fboard%3D10%3Baction%3Ddisplay%3Bthreadid%3D5540 | May 08 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Free Software Challenge in Latin America - New York Latino Journal | http://nylatinojournal.com/home/business_economics/dollars_sense/the_free_software_challenge_in_latin_america.html | May 08 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Novell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell | May 08 18:28 |
| but the debate was raging since the State Street decision that essentially legalized business method and software patents in the US. | May 08 18:28 | |
| I remember people at LSU encouraging me to file for patents on things I considered trivial, but at least they were real inventions. | May 08 18:30 | |
| I was too busy to bother | May 08 18:30 | |
| http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/219107 | May 08 18:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Journal of twitter (104583) .::. Size~: 59.33 KB | May 08 18:30 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin:ping | May 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | [when available] | May 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | between video segments there's encoding, so time to plan next topic | May 08 18:31 |
| I peg the start of Microsoft's public attack on gnu/linux by patents with Dan Lyon's 2004 article. | May 08 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | Then it becomes easier to compartmentalise the show and when putting up the video it's easier to explain which part covers what | May 08 18:31 |
| _Goblin | talking of encoding....a well known potty mouth has some encoding "advice" on COLA. | May 08 18:31 |
| schestowitz | the recess between parts is essential for the encoding | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | and splits | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | See the comments in TR too | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | We got about 8 | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | And one suggested how to split the oggs | May 08 18:32 |
| http://www.forbes.com/2004/08/02/cz_dl_0802linux.html | May 08 18:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Scare Tactics - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 45.52 KB | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | twitter: yes | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I work with some people who are keen on swpats | May 08 18:32 |
| _Goblin | quite what a professional sound engineer would be doing posting insults on COLA is anyones guess, but then I don't believe Flatty is involved professionally in anything, musical or not... | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Until someone sues *then* I reckon | May 08 18:32 |
| ThistleWind | splitting the ogg sounds a lot like cracking an egg | May 08 18:32 |
| schestowitz | But they just want to use them as trophies or leverage | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Maybe to sell them, who knows | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | It's like their book chapters and books | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Which won't sell many copies anyway | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Not much money in it | May 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Academic papers also take a lot of work and have little readership or impact | May 08 18:33 |
| academic papers have far more impact and readership than patents | May 08 18:34 | |
| books are a labor of love | May 08 18:35 | |
| *Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message) | May 08 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: me neither] | May 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWind: abort abort! | May 08 18:36 |
| Anyway, the issue and debate about software patents was alive immediately after State street. | May 08 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: well said | May 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | but patents are called "intellectual property" | May 08 18:36 |
| Computer Science people hated it right away. | May 08 18:36 | |
| schestowitz | So for people who suck at sport it's a thing to make up for it | May 08 18:37 |
| schestowitz | In my views, books are a synthesis of papers/work | May 08 18:37 |
| schestowitz | You take your past papers and then shoehorn it into a book chapter and when you end a career phase you can do many chapters at once | May 08 18:37 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who puiblishes book | May 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | As a professor | May 08 18:38 |
| right | May 08 18:38 | |
| it's hard work | May 08 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | Last month was his first month of his bvook out | May 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Springer paid him just over 100 quid for sale | May 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | *slaes | May 08 18:38 |
| but it recaps what the author has learned in a way that makes it easier for others to use | May 08 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | That's his share as co-author | May 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | For comparison, as I run ads in schestowitz.com, Google paid me 230 quid some days ago, for 2 years | May 08 18:39 |
| at that rate, it's better to self publish on the web | May 08 18:39 | |
| ha ha | May 08 18:39 | |
| schestowitz | <He plans another boo | May 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I told him I'd latex it for him and do HTML conversion | May 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | All my research notes go into lyx now | May 08 18:39 |
| I did not expect immediate confirmation of the monetary value of book revenue | May 08 18:39 | |
| schestowitz | At the end they are sliced and put online for people to google | May 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | With links to full PDF at the top of all pages | May 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I wrote some scripts for that 7 years ago | May 08 18:40 |
| cool | May 08 18:40 | |
| nice | May 08 18:40 | |
| schestowitz | Like this: http://schestowitz.com/Research/Continuation_Report/HTML/ | May 08 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CONTINUATION REPORT First Year Summary of Progression and Outcomes .::. Size~: 17.33 KB | May 08 18:40 |
| A friend of mine does all of their notes in latex. I thought it was overkill but the result is wonderful. | May 08 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I was saying.. | May 08 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @mpaluchowski: So, when did "startup" become synonymous with 2 guys with an idea, no business plan and desperate for venture capital? | May 08 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | About books and bok chapters | May 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I never made these | May 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | And I heard of book sale numbers | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | From my prof mate | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | It's like hundreds | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | And they sell them for a couple of hundred | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | THe share for author is like 5% | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | So pittance given the time put in | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | It's an old, aging medim | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I gave the link to the new Lessig series of talks about Open Access | May 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | IIRC you had to go the last time this powwow was going on | May 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Papers are a currency in academia, still | May 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Even if you're second author or whatever | May 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Or teach | May 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Or make good code for others | May 08 18:43 |
| sure, they show effort | May 08 18:43 | |
| schestowitz | That may change in the future | May 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | My peacock like colleagues brag about a list of publications, but the readership that they attract is lower than what I get daily on the Net | May 08 18:44 |
| you can put the effort into a web page instead | May 08 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | They cannot compensate for it with printer medium | May 08 18:44 |
| the thing that matters is careful research and thought | May 08 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | There's this library-publisher cartel going on -- an assurance to buy. When that conspiracy is broken apart (some university already snub some publishers for cost), it'll break apart | May 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Elseveir is already corrupt | May 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I would not read any papers there, as a matter of principle | May 08 18:45 |
| Elsevier sucks | May 08 18:45 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucGSOqbPiyk | May 08 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - The Architecture for Access to Scientific Knowledge .::. Size~: 96.27 KB | May 08 18:45 |
| and they control a lot of great journals | May 08 18:45 | |
| schestowitz | Many professors set up web pages | May 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | But they are too busy with kids, teaching, nagging spouses to grow that | May 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Their antiquated papers are also not available | May 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Or available in ancient format | May 08 18:46 |
| if they have the time to write papers, they have the time to make their pages good. | May 08 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | Or in paper-only form for scanning | May 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | No .tex | May 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | So that's pretty much all lost | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | They cannot put that online | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | They never designed their papers with the Web in mind | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | For example, they don't know which version is camera-ready and latest | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Too messy | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Some put up links that age and break over time | May 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Others make local copies of PDFs (very common) | May 08 18:47 |
| preprints are very nice | May 08 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | I think they cannot upload the final one, either. Due to publisher's restrictions | May 08 18:48 |
| right | May 08 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | But nothing beats HTML | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | People like text | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Not output format | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I have no paination | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | That's a paper 'thing' | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I have chapters, text semantics like "verbatim" | May 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | And images don't have printed size | May 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Or position | May 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | They can be hyperlinked for movement | May 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Adobe only recently caught up with active cross-refs | May 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | and hyperlinks too | May 08 18:49 |
| I think hyperlinks have been around in pdf for a while | May 08 18:49 | |
| schestowitz | Then reverse hyper-jumper-links for references | May 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | I only found that out in tx | May 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | *tex | May 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | a lot of people don't use that | May 08 18:50 |
| there's a module or two out there that auto generates indexes of images and chapters | May 08 18:50 | |
| with links | May 08 18:50 | |
| I'm sure you can put in http if you want | May 08 18:51 | |
| but you are right about the portablity of images outside of pdf | May 08 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | Here's my hypothesis | May 08 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | If I strive to use papers as a curency now, then I race to win yesterday's race | May 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Journals won't exist in their present form | May 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Libraries already suffer a lot | May 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | And things like Google Books is another aspect of it | May 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I can get snippets of text I need by searching | May 08 18:52 |
| there are open access journals out there | May 08 18:52 | |
| pub med is wonderful | May 08 18:52 | |
| schestowitz | Google won't allow copying and pasting anything, but it does give access to portions like equations you need | May 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Fair use | May 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | [18:51] <twitter> but you are right about the portablity of images outside of pdf | May 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | You can zoom in | May 08 18:53 |
| schestowitz | But in double-column formats that are so common, the layout restricts size and encourages use of coarse images | May 08 18:53 |
| I like being able to zoom in on graphs in pdfs - use eps as the image format | May 08 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | Very bad for plots with thin lines | May 08 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Looks OK on a4 paper | May 08 18:53 |
| gnuplot does eps as an output | May 08 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | Not a poster | May 08 18:53 |
| you can make it as big as you want | May 08 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | And not good for assessment, either | May 08 18:53 |
| schestowitz | people don't use eps | May 08 18:54 |
| A4 or Poster, it's vector based. | May 08 18:54 | |
| *ThistleWind has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | May 08 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | They are 'windummies' as 7 in COLA calls them | May 08 18:54 |
| some people don't use eps | May 08 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | They think not or vector/raster | May 08 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I have colleagues who use Paint.exe to do illustrations | May 08 18:54 |
| well, yes, Windows people don't have good tools | May 08 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | I guess they cannot afford or afford to learn something like PSD | May 08 18:55 |
| I know someone who uses xpaint | May 08 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | [18:54] <twitter> well, yes, Windows people don't have good tools | May 08 18:55 |
| I think it can do eps | May 08 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | That can be read another way | May 08 18:55 |
| ? | May 08 18:55 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe they stick to Windows to hide their insecurities | May 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | "tool" | May 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | I have Big Corp's software | May 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | "me use Mac... yeah, I'm rich and big and famous like Blows" | May 08 18:56 |
| It's more a lazy thing. | May 08 18:56 | |
| too much trouble to not just use the crap that came with a Dell | May 08 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | Anyway, everything I write gets published | May 08 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Whether it goes into peer-reviewed journal is a separate question | May 08 18:56 |
| schestowitz | But all the word I am paid for goes public anyway | May 08 18:56 |
| people brought up with Windows do silly things, like make posters in Power Point | May 08 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | Compromising quality, but comes with the usual disclaimers | May 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Same for the code I write... | May 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I do posters in tex | May 08 18:57 |
| I think scribus is the easy tool now. | May 08 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | Here is is exported as HTML: | May 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/Posters/ISBI_2006_Poster/Final_Version/HTML/ | May 08 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: isbi_2006_poster .::. Size~: 3.6 KB | May 08 18:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #tinap in guest neutrality shocker! lol asking guests to pay | May 08 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | From IEEE conference in Arlington | May 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. it messed up all the images | May 08 18:59 |
| peer review and the paper writing process are good, even if the paper form is not so great | May 08 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | Anyway, PDF linked at top of all pages | May 08 18:59 |
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| nice poster | May 08 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: can peer review better on the Web | May 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I use wikis | May 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I used them in 2005 even, for papers | May 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Around Feb 2005 | May 08 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh !lazyweb, need your help again! does anybody know how to establish if a user is using opera in pure CSS (no JS allowed)? | May 08 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | And my colleagues were too much behind to realise it's better than passing around loads of text files | May 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Without changes being highlighted | May 08 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Some colleagues of mine now I use svn for docs | May 08 19:02 |
| schestowitz | But the older profs don't grasp it | May 08 19:02 |
| yes, wikis are very nice | May 08 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | They are hard to teach new thing | May 08 19:02 |
| I think that is changing | May 08 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | I also used wikis early on to communicate with people and run ideas | May 08 19:02 |
| they probably want restrictions on access to editing, to reduce the spam workload | May 08 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | Extra points to those who know why the WWW was created ;-\) | May 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | one of my employers is now using login-only wikis | May 08 19:03 |
| ;-) I thought it was for user manuals | May 08 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | To manage information | May 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I might have as a client another prof soon, he sets up a company and trusts me for that | May 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | twitter: that too | May 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | But manuals for internal ops | May 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | with sensuituve data like p/ws | May 08 19:04 |
| good stuff for day to day administrative work | May 08 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | [over https+openvpm] | May 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | *n | May 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | +-login | May 08 19:05 |
| schestowitz | So, why was the WWW created? | May 08 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Anybody knows..? | May 08 19:05 |
| google is spammed out with Mosaic and IE http://www.google.com/search?q=first+web+browser&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 | May 08 19:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: first web browser - Google Search .::. Size~: 85.26 KB | May 08 19:06 |
| !google first web browser cern | May 08 19:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Web Browser History - First, Early | http://www.livinginternet.com/w/wi_browse.htm | May 08 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - cern.info.ch - TIm Berners-Lee's original WorldWideWeb browser | http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser.html | May 08 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Welcome to info.cern.ch | http://info.cern.ch/ | May 08 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - History of the World Wide Web - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web | May 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | My simple question is one few people know the answer to | May 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | It was created by Tim BL so that people can peer-review his physics paper | May 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | or papers (typo) | May 08 19:07 |
| http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser.html | May 08 19:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: cern.info.ch - TIm Berners-Lee's original WorldWideWeb browser .::. Size~: 3.8 KB | May 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | He needed to put that online for people to access and provide feedback | May 08 19:07 |
| I think you are right | May 08 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | he had no wiki at the time | May 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | that's how he put it | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe revisionist | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | But only he can tell his story | May 08 19:08 |
| likes wiki but it's not as friendly as he wants it to be | May 08 19:08 | |
| schestowitz | about his motivation | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | wikis I love for their versioning system | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | No text is ever gone or deleted | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Like a paragraph you don't like | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | In normal mode I comment out text | May 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | But it still lacks time metadata about evolution of the document | May 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | it does not capture behaviour of change | May 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | But to use a wiki or svn for one-author paper is overkill | May 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Papers that are good take ages to put together | May 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Some people toil for a year to produce just 10 papers | May 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | That's like one page every 3 days | May 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Long days | May 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | So much for leaving legacy... | May 08 19:10 |
| "HyperMedia Browser/Editor An exercise in global information availability by Tim Berners-Lee ... Text which is not constrained to be linear ... Media: Information which is not constrained to be linear or to be text" | May 08 19:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (1) How to remove #mono including its apps on #ubuntu 11.04: sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime cli-common | May 08 19:11 | |
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| http://info.cern.ch/NextBrowser1.html | May 08 19:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tim Berners-Lee's original WorldWideWeb browser in 1993 .::. Size~: 3.4 KB | May 08 19:12 |
| he says the browser was supposed to be an editor also | May 08 19:13 | |
| http://info.cern.ch/ | May 08 19:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Welcome to info.cern.ch .::. Size~: 8.92 KB | May 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | was he in nuclear physics? | May 08 19:14 |
| I'm not sure. | May 08 19:14 | |
| http://replay.web.archive.org/19970731132415/http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/People//W3Cpeople.html#Berners-Lee | May 08 19:16 | |
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| telco and imaging before cern | May 08 19:16 | |
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee | May 08 19:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tim Berners-Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 118.27 KB | May 08 19:17 |
| physics from Oxford | May 08 19:17 | |
| I wonder if Oxford publishes old dissertatons | May 08 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2) install Rhythmbox music player, it is fully supported by the sound menu and also provides a #ubuntu-one plugin. | May 08 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Maybe recording a Techbytes video tongiht....all being well. | May 08 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | I spoke to him about patents some months back | May 08 19:18 |
| every university should scan their older thesis and dissertations | May 08 19:20 | |
| there's a lot of good information locked in their stacks | May 08 19:20 | |
| well, I'm off to play with the kids. Thanks for chatting everyone. | May 08 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/babygnu | May 08 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | "For ages 3 and up." | May 08 19:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Portugal about to make Creative Commons illegal? - http://bit.ly/jkWWac will become a laughing-stock if it does... (v @jmcesteves) #cc | May 08 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody Is #Portugal about to make Creative Commons illegal? - http://bit.ly/jkWWac will become a laughing-stock if it does... (v ... | May 08 19:25 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/73516 | May 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | " | May 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | "...a fresh start would be for Canonical to step in and grab the initiative..." | May 08 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @ml2mst (1) How to remove #mono including its apps on #ubuntu 11.04: sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime cli-common | May 08 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | I don't think this will happen. Canonical is not a big software company to develop some application framework in Ubuntu. The major work done in Ubuntu is polishing and make it end-user friendly. I don't think there is any big reason to be No. 1 developer of Mono. I think this is only a blind guess. It would be nice if there is some statistics how many patches had Canonical contribute to Mono. I don't think many. | May 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | " | May 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Oiaohm is there too | May 08 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | Rebutting the BS from the Microsoft dude | May 08 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Bitcoin virtual currency challenges world’s centralized monetary systems | Vancouver, Canada | Straight.com http://ow.ly/4PMXH | May 08 19:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @dougsportazine well, they took some minutes if not hours off my life in the process, but they did it! !united. One more point! | May 08 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] So that's it then. !MUFC | May 08 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How do you change the tty font I wonder? too small here | May 08 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] loving the forward thinking #Fall in embracing their fans and fair use ;) oop....I mean "no fuck off" #tinap | May 08 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #tinap need to try to get #Prince to authorise use of a tune for the show rofl | May 08 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] given how some players play they could introduce a diving element to !football with judges at the touchline holding up numbered cards | May 08 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looks like vga=ask is the setting I need to learn about | May 08 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | vonskippy attacks rms again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/52450 | May 08 19:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the less space between players, the higher the points because it was better coordinated / timed | May 08 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @richslxh Nani is in the same league | May 08 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Easily distracted people may have too much brain - New Scientist « I knew there was good reason :) http://ping.fm/0iMPk | May 08 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQxMQ | May 08 19:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Did anyone really think file-hosting sites guard your private data? http://goo.gl/wNy0R | May 08 20:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] loving the #tinap !football predictions now we know the results, #RealMadrid win, league win against #Arsenal - should be a weatherman ;P | May 08 20:16 | |
| BobJonkman | Hi schestowitz - just read http://techrights.org/2011/05/08/epitaph-for-novell/ and wanted to point out that some companies DID find the MS/Novell alliance comforting, in that it made SUSE a supported OS that wouldn't interfere with any exclusive arrangements they had made with MS | May 08 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | BobJonkman: can you b specific? | May 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Is it the patent part or shims? | May 08 20:25 |
| BobJonkman | Where i worked in 2006 (large municipal government) Linux was in the server rooms largely as a "rogue" installation. | May 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat also worked fine with many of the same situations | May 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | BobJonkman: then fix the government :-) | May 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | What's "Rogue" about Linux? | May 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | SCO allegation? | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Companies I work for use Linux exclusively | May 08 20:27 |
| BobJonkman | Novell's introduction of SUSE was welcomed, as it provided an official support channel for Linux, and integration with Netware | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | official from who? | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft? | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I don't think i need that reptile, ballmer, to give me his blessings | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | He has nothing to do with Linux | May 08 20:27 |
| BobJonkman | What's "rogue"? That Linux didn't go through official purchasing channels, had no official endorsement from Management and Legal | May 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | and if it was the case, there should be antirust | May 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | so replace management and legal | May 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | They are obviously living in a fantasy land | May 08 20:28 |
| BobJonkman | When Novell made the agreement with MS it was perceived as stability for the OS side of operations | May 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | where software can only be paid for with invoices and patents exist | May 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | BobJonkman: which companies? | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I know few who spoke out | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | And the patent part did not appeal to them | May 08 20:29 |
| BobJonkman | The "official support channel" meant that Linux support could be purchased from an approved vendor | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft lied on their behalf | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | They were paid for Microsoft to lie for them | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I know one company where that was the case | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | A manager leaked it to me | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | !google susan hauser techtrights | May 08 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | May 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | BobJonkman: Red Hat and Canonical provide support | May 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | And it's "official" -- whatever that means | May 08 20:30 |
| BobJonkman | They weren't "approved vendors" | May 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe to them "official" means "taxed by ballmer & follow thugs" | May 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | *Fellow | May 08 20:30 |
| BobJonkman | So, I understand and agree with what you're saying, but this was how it was in the trenches. | May 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | BobJonkman: let me guess.. | May 08 20:30 |
| BobJonkman | Justified or not | May 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Cause Novell was almost delisted from NASDAQ? | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | While Canonical grew.. | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | And Red Hat was #1... | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | They should modify their procurement rules | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | we had a chat about this in techbytes last night | May 08 20:31 |
| BobJonkman | This was well before Novell's downfall. When Novell was still one of the Good Guys | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | How the channels specifically endorse people who play by certain rules, such as patents | May 08 20:31 |
| BobJonkman | I'm going to have to pay more attention to techbytes :) | May 08 20:31 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, those companies deserve the trouble they are in. Successful companies I know use centos and debian | May 08 20:32 |
| BobJonkman | You can't get much more staid and stody than government | May 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | BobJonkman: it's not a Linux issue actually | May 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | it's WTO and WIPO | May 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | If your country doesn't like our patent monopolies, we'll call you "rogue" and put you on list of shame :-) | May 08 20:32 |
| BobJonkman | Sorry, I need to go return/exchange a computer before the retailers close on a Sunday. | May 08 20:32 |
| BobJonkman | Will be back in a few hours | May 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | ok | May 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, fewer companies will pay Microsoft for Linux now | May 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft-taxed distributors have all collapsed | May 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | except some who sell Android, not all | May 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | B&N will take Microsoft to court and so will Motorola | May 08 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's odd that #Gnome users who refuse to try anything new because it's not their comfort zone expect #Windows users to, to move to #Linux | May 08 20:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] via @rms: Israeli army sealed off village of Nabi Saleh <http://ur1.ca/446vg> & appears to plan to demolish Palestinian homes there. | May 08 20:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is nybill with 90 dents! | May 08 20:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/07/1936221/Sony-Encourages-Linux-On-Their-Phones | May 08 20:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for those eager for the #Mint 11 RC with #Gnome 2, keep an eye on the news over the next few days, it's arrival is imminent | May 08 21:05 | |
| *icelogic (~icelogic@99-127-17-106.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | May 08 21:23 | |
| icelogic | magia ftw | May 08 21:26 |
| _Goblin | Metal ftw | May 08 21:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Drinking beer and doing show notes for !LO. | May 08 21:28 | |
| _Goblin | oh and btw | May 08 21:29 |
| _Goblin | Magia "Magia™ is a breakthrough in project, program and portfolio management. It is a patented innovation, available at the moment as a Microsoft Project add-on." - ;) unfortunate choice of name. | May 08 21:29 |
| cubezzz | same with Zune | May 08 21:29 |
| cubezzz | but AROS used it first | May 08 21:29 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: http://techrights.org/2011/05/07/techbytes-episode-44/#comment-116866 | May 08 21:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Vender a CGD é da mais elementar insanidade e falta de senso - http://ur1.ca/44783 | May 08 21:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Elementar bom senso « BLASFÉMIAS .::. Size~: 70.83 KB | May 08 21:30 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: the problems with having too many people on the show....difficult to control rogue noise I suppose | May 08 21:31 |
| schestowitz | yes, that yoo | May 08 21:31 |
| schestowitz | too | May 08 21:31 |
| schestowitz | And post-recording editing is something that would slow everything down | May 08 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse | May 08 21:31 | |
| icelogic | you havent seen rogue noise till you get me in there | May 08 21:31 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 08 21:33 |
| icelogic | i have a nosie amplyfying mic | May 08 21:33 |
| _Goblin | cool... | May 08 21:34 |
| icelogic | seb you there | May 08 21:34 |
| cubezzz | I'm seeing more traffic on the audio stuff lately | May 08 21:34 |
| icelogic | yea i love your guys show | May 08 21:35 |
| _Goblin | flatty the wintroll will love that....he will give you some more cut and paste advice. | May 08 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: yeah, but not for much longer | May 08 21:35 |
| icelogic | ok go get some | May 08 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | icelogic: an early night for me it will, after being awake a pretty long time | May 08 21:35 |
| icelogic | good luck | May 08 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | ,but not going just yet for that | May 08 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | soon though | May 08 21:35 |
| icelogic | seb is the irc master | May 08 21:36 |
| icelogic | you own freenode | May 08 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | Anyone else worried about dieing and what may happen? Been thinking about it here and there quite a bit recently. | May 08 21:37 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb is Techrights CMO :-p | May 08 21:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: what's a CMO ? | May 08 21:37 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: nothing will happen | May 08 21:37 |
| schestowitz | I worry more about dieting :-) | May 08 21:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: if the atheists are right, and well that's it the end, life is quite pointless really I guess hmm | May 08 21:38 |
| _Goblin | what is CMO? | May 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | chief moderating officer | May 08 21:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid When an employee doesn't feel empowered enough to turn off a gas burner w/ an open flame & no pan/pot on it, there's a problem ... | May 08 21:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @thistleweb it's odd that #Gnome users who refuse to try anything new because it's not their comfort zone expect #Windows users to, t ... | May 08 21:38 | |
| schestowitz | heh | May 08 21:38 |
| _Goblin | ah | May 08 21:38 |
| sebsebseb | uh and what is that exactly? | May 08 21:38 |
| icelogic | we salute you seb | May 08 21:38 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: better than to be bored in fluffy clouds for eternity | May 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, I dunno, it was the best gag I could come up with before someone jumped in | May 08 21:38 |
| icelogic | he is saying your cool as as crud | May 08 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and worshipping a megalomaniac all day | May 08 21:39 |
| schestowitz | funniest thing is golden gates | May 08 21:39 |
| icelogic | thistle web porn ftw | May 08 21:39 |
| sebsebseb | worshping what? | May 08 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic: that's more of a BDSM niche ;P | May 08 21:39 |
| schestowitz | like you'd need valued property after death. And if everything is made out of gold, it's devalued | May 08 21:39 |
| icelogic | lol | May 08 21:40 |
| ThistleWeb | seen the thistle? it's jaggy | May 08 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | I had I guess it got throwne out since stains on it, maybe still about, a grey/white t shirt. Anyway in Swedish it would say: Those have most proccessions when they die win. | May 08 21:40 |
| ThistleWeb | spikey you could say, maybe it was a well chosen name for my personality ;P | May 08 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | Those who have most processions when they die win. That's what it said or basically said | May 08 21:41 |
| schestowitz | This one is recent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaK6k4oZ20 | May 08 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: _Goblin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS-OwbmArSA | May 08 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Check out the Swedish dude | May 08 21:42 |
| ThistleWeb | malmstein? | May 08 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin heh heh in a way about worrying about people not likeing death and satanic metal and such on the show, I like stuff like that useually | May 08 21:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @quaid: When an employee doesn't feel empowered enough to turn off a gas burner w/ an open flame & no pan/pot on it, there's a problem | May 08 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO !Miners ♺ @sixgun: Linux Outlaws 206 - One-Way Time Machine > http://outl.ws/0w -- we interview the CEO of Mojang, Carl Manneh | May 08 21:43 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: I've open bytes media site for comments | May 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | and the spam starts coming | May 08 21:44 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 08 21:44 |
| _Goblin | just watching that vid | May 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | it's a good channel too | May 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | One of the funnest to watch on youtube | May 08 21:44 |
| ThistleWeb | spammers are rats seeking anu unclipped trouser leg | May 08 21:45 |
| ThistleWeb | any* | May 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Yay! | May 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Got ICP working, finally | May 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | A colleagues implementation forges onto my program | May 08 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Podcasts + Minecraft = Awesome | May 08 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: haha! | May 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Your jokes got you some fans who listen to the show | May 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | credit to apple | May 08 21:47 |
| ThistleWeb | really? | May 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/04/29/36203.htm | May 08 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | Tattoo Artist Claims Copyright Over Mike Tyson's Tattoo - Sues Warner Bros. | May 08 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | when you emerese yourself in the bizarre genius known to the world as Discworld, it does give you a warped mindset lol | May 08 21:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.iri.uni-hannover.de/acta-1668.html | May 08 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: Silly tribble. http://theinsideofmybrain.tumblr.com/post/5250683599/tribble-you-are-drunk | May 08 21:51 | |
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| ThistleWeb | credit to apple? you lost me | May 08 21:51 |
| schestowitz | cider | May 08 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/05/05/36369.htm | May 08 21:52 |
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| ThistleWeb | ahhh gotcha | May 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | My favourite drink | May 08 21:56 |
| schestowitz | among that type which goes in pints | May 08 21:56 |
| ThistleWeb | vodka? ;P #alcholic | May 08 21:56 |
| schestowitz | otherwise there are other drinks I like, Pina Colada is one.. | May 08 21:57 |
| ThistleWeb | had that a few times in mexico, liked it | May 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | it seems like Bailey's goes with the same type of taste | May 08 21:57 |
| *ThistleWeb is kinda fond of advocaat | May 08 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | it's fattening though with all the sugar | May 08 21:57 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | May 08 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | in mexico drinking is inexpensive | May 08 21:57 |
| schestowitz | seen some British show about going there for booze | May 08 21:58 |
| ThistleWeb | usually I prefer spirits, but being broke means price + strong volume is a compelling purchase | May 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1a_colada | May 08 21:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Piña colada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 52.14 KB | May 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink4300.html | May 08 21:58 |
| ThistleWeb | when in mexico I fell in love with a drink called chi chi | May 08 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pina Colada recipe .::. Size~: 50.68 KB | May 08 21:59 |
| ThistleWeb | a variant on pina colada | May 08 21:59 |
| ThistleWeb | we were at an all inclusive, as much as you can eat or drink in the hotel all day, meant I consumed large quantites of chi chi | May 08 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | May 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | All your can drink too? | May 08 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | yep | May 08 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | they do water down though | May 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there were not expecting the Irish and the Scottish... | May 08 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | nah they bump the price onto the cost of the deal, so you're paying for a flat package | May 08 22:00 |
| schestowitz | [stereotypes] | May 08 22:00 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty won't use much of it, eat and drink out, but still pay | May 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: but the flat package assumes average | May 08 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | like fixed rate broadband, some hardly use much, while others consume a lot | May 08 22:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I was there 3 weeks, all the bar staff knew what I wanted with a smile and a nod within a few days ;P | May 08 22:02 |
| ThistleWeb | a couple of times I managed to catch his attention before I got to the bar, so when I arrived the chi chi was just put down for me to lift | May 08 22:02 |
| ThistleWeb | cancuun is great btw for folks looking for a cool holiday | May 08 22:03 |
| ThistleWeb | ,wik chichi | May 08 22:04 |
| ThistleWeb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1a_colada#Variations | May 08 22:06 |
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| icelogic | thistle nice bdsm webcast i look forward to your next show | May 08 22:06 |
| icelogic | roy i have a question for you | May 08 22:06 |
| ThistleWeb | the watering down is not to cut costs, though that'd be a benefit, it's to avoid rowdy drunks causing havok for the other holiday makers, as they drink all day in the sun around the pool | May 08 22:08 |
| ThistleWeb | health and saftey | May 08 22:08 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Watching over the ladies, eh? | May 08 22:10 |
| *ThistleWeb whistles the tune of the happy drunk | May 08 22:10 | |
| schestowitz | icelogic: sure.. | May 08 22:10 |
| schestowitz | just nothing rude, I hope.. | May 08 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @fosspatents @gnufreex Why would I care what Meeker thinks? She's just another @bsookman. Whoppee. | May 08 22:13 | |
| icelogic | Roy with android licensed under the apache license there is not the protection against patents like the gpl v3 has. in the news over the past 14 months they have had 41 patent infringments. If they would have just used the gpl v3 for all code they added they could have prevented alot of the headaches right? | May 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | no. | May 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | it does not work that way. | May 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Linus argued over this point with me | May 08 22:15 |
| ThistleWeb | gpl just means they have to share their changes back | May 08 22:15 |
| ThistleWeb | apache means that's optional | May 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | When I basically said that he should adopt gplv3 (I said it more politely) | May 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: that's BSD | May 08 22:16 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought apache was a variant on bsd | May 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_license | May 08 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40100/apache-licence-vs-bsd-vs-mit | May 08 22:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open source - Apache licence vs BSD vs MIT - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 42.79 KB | May 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | "That is one of the reasons that Google chooses the Apache License (2.0) as the default for the software it open-sources. It is permissive like BSD, but (unlike BSD) actually happens to mention the rights under copyright law and gives you a license under those rights. In other words, it actually knows what it is doing unlike some of the other permissive licenses." | May 08 22:19 |
| ThistleWeb | k | May 08 22:19 |
| ThistleWeb | I knew google liked the apache licence | May 08 22:19 |
| PJ thought that GPL v3 would have been useful when Oracle came at them for Java. | May 08 22:20 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: doing video yet? | May 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | twitter: yeah | May 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | but they also used copyrights | May 08 22:23 |
| http://gplv3.fsf.org/rms-why.html | May 08 22:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Upgrade to GPL Version 3 — GPLv3 .::. Size~: 28.24 KB | May 08 22:24 |
| that idiot Florian Mueller is still FUDing Google about GPL violations ... what a jerk. | May 08 22:25 | |
| -> " No one quoted in the media has claimed affirmatively that Android isn't infringing. On the contrary, I have seen others share my concern." | May 08 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | Linus responded to these claims | May 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Florian just reuses old mistakes | May 08 22:26 |
| I seem to recall PJ answering as well. | May 08 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | He can't even do his own research | May 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | He digs up people's old smears like old Firewstar Red Hat settlement | May 08 22:27 |
| perhaps it's true that neither Linus or PJ were "quoted in the media" like troll Florian is. | May 08 22:27 | |
| schestowitz | They are not pushing people by mass-mailing | May 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | She told me show saw my post about it | May 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | How he massages the news | May 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | He became like a PR agent | May 08 22:28 |
| schestowitz | But he doesn't pretend to come from a PR agent | May 08 22:28 |
| schestowitz | He claims to be an IP expert or developer | May 08 22:28 |
| schestowitz | And pretending to be against swpats | May 08 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 147 million downloads on 2011-05-08 21:27 UTC | May 08 22:30 | |
| He's all about FUD for Microsoft competitors. | May 08 22:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Added a bunch of people to the !miners whitelist. !LO | May 08 22:31 | |
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| actually, it looks like GPL3 would have helped with Android - any deal with one company would extend patent protection to all users of the software | May 08 22:37 | |
| this would make it hard for Microsoft to pit Android makers against each other. | May 08 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | like which ones? | May 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | so far.. | May 08 22:38 |
| which what? | May 08 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.seoexpertconsultants.com/index.php?linux&release=SimplyMEPIS%2011.0 http://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2011/05/review-simplymepis-110.html | May 08 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | which android maker sues another? | May 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | lg and samsung? | May 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Sony? | May 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | and some are android packagers | May 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | not makers | May 08 22:39 |
| no, the idea is that if Microsoft made a deal with one maker, Microsoft could not sue another, or so I think ... " The explicit patent license of GPLv3 makes sure companies that use the GPL to give users the four freedoms cannot turn around and use their patents to tell some users “That doesn't include you.” It also stops them from colluding with other patent holders to do this." | May 08 22:41 | |
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| I thought the reason Google did not take GPL for Android was because carriers wanted to Tivoize phones. | May 08 22:43 | |
| Here, the FSF says that Google should have used icedT instead of their own java http://www.fsf.org/news/oracle-v-google | May 08 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.77 KB | May 08 22:46 |
| the gpl would have protected them from some of Oracle's patent and copyright nonsense | May 08 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Having fun with my status.net instance, although groups being a bit "iffy". | May 08 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | google likes apache | May 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | IBM likes eclipse licence | May 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | http://dvice.com/archives/2011/05/25-computer-is.php | May 08 22:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: $25 computer is barely larger than the average USB stick | DVICE .::. Size~: 32.73 KB | May 08 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I have been awake for a rather long time indeed, and so on the verge of going to bed! Good Night !identiverse | May 08 22:56 | |
| ThistleWeb | microsoft likes any licence which amounts to "you pay us" | May 08 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/05/ubuntu-cto-matt-zimmerman-leav.html | May 08 23:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu CTO Matt Zimmerman leaving. Good Luck and thanks for all the fish. - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 114.81 KB | May 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | "Zimmerman happily helped a hapless journo (me) in IRC no less, when I first started to write about Ubuntu back in 2005. Ubuntu didn't have real PR at the time, but Zimmerman was there as CTO answering my questions without a PR/marketing filter with exceptional clarity. Last year (even with Ubuntu having real PR), I had lunch with Zimmerman in Boston, where we chatted about Unity and the future of Ubuntu. | May 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | "Zimmerman is now leaving Ubuntu. | May 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | " | May 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | Top Debian lad | May 08 23:00 |
| there's always something irritating about das U-blog | May 08 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/524228/Flooding-closes-highways-in-Tupper-Lake--Long-Lake.html?nav=5017 | May 08 23:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tupper Lake declares state of emergency (update) - AdirondackDailyEnterprise.com | News, Sports, Jobs, Saranac Lake region — Adirondack Daily Enterprise .::. Size~: 50.85 KB | May 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | twitter: it's a good blog | May 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | all in all | May 08 23:03 |
| could have written "Review: Simply Mepis 11.0" did not boot on my laptop." | May 08 23:03 | |
| and listed his hardware. | May 08 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | You have a tendency to misclassify people based on too small a sample point | May 08 23:03 |
| I have not classified the blog, other than to say it often annoys me. | May 08 23:04 | |
| sample size is about 10. | May 08 23:04 | |
| cubezzz | no OS boots on everything | May 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/atts-broadband-data-caps-start-today.ars | May 08 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AT&T's broadband data caps start today .::. Size~: 35.56 KB | May 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | !google vista boots on iphone | May 08 23:05 |
| true, but so what? | May 08 23:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Unpaid time while Vista boots results in lawsuits | Electronista | http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/19/vista.boot.times.lawsuit/ | May 08 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Vista boots slow after VMware installation (SOLVED) - MacRumors Forums | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D680861 | May 08 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Vista boots on Intel Mac | http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2006/04/11/vista-boots-on-intel-mac/ | May 08 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Windows Only Boots in Safe Mode | http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-vista/windows-only-boots-in-safe-mode/3191.html | May 08 23:05 |
| icelogic_ | at and t just made the internet more expensive for all | May 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... didn't find the image joke | May 08 23:05 |
| schestowitz | !google AT&T bush censorship | May 08 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AT&T Censors Pearl Jam's Anti-Bush Lyrics During Live Webcast | http://gizmodo.com/%23!287775/att-censors-pearl-jams-anti%2Bbush-lyrics-during-live-webcast | May 08 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - AT&T Censors Anti-Bush Pearl Jam Lyrics During Lollapalooza | PEEK ... | http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/59248/at%2526t_censors_anti-bush_pearl_jam_lyrics_during_lollapalooza/ | May 08 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Did AT&T censor Pearl Jam's anti-Bush comments? : The Technology ... | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail%3Fentry_id%3D19329 | May 08 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - AT&T censors Pearl Jam's anti-Bush sing-along • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/10/pearl_jam_censorship/ | May 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | costing lives, too | May 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | BT popularises DPI | May 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I think I too am by default being tracked and all my data sold by BT to marketers | May 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they allow optout | May 08 23:07 |
| icelogic_ | roy had some computer issues and missed the disucusion did you think google develpers knew the glp3 would protect them against software pattents but still didnt use it for android? | May 08 23:08 |
| I don't think the conversation was conclusive | May 08 23:09 | |
| cubezzz | I'd never rely on one OS | May 08 23:09 |
| cubezzz | anyways, it's fun trying different OSes | May 08 23:09 |
| GPL 3 would make some of Microsoft's maneuvers more difficult but no license can stop the abuse of software patents, only a change in law can do that. | May 08 23:10 | |
| Here's fun for Virtual Box http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2010/02/08/howto-ssh-into-virtualbox-3-linux-guests/ | May 08 23:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Howto: SSH into VirtualBox 3 Linux Guests by Stuart Colville .::. Size~: 38.65 KB | May 08 23:10 |
| they show how to ssh -X to guest OS, so you can run them all. | May 08 23:10 | |
| I've got my beloved kicker back. :-D | May 08 23:11 | |
| but you can run any specialty gnu/linux and export the program to your host. | May 08 23:11 | |
| this is probably not a good idea for non free software like Skype, unless you don't care too much about non free software snooping your keystrokes, but it's very nice for everything else | May 08 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fendus: Just logged into the !miners server for the first time. :-) | May 08 23:13 | |
| I got my kicker and KDE 3 stuff back this way. It picked all of the systray stuff up too. | May 08 23:14 | |
| MinceR | gn | May 08 23:14 |
| If there's something Fedora does very well, you can run that in a VM and export it. | May 08 23:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-jobs-on-the-difference-between-a-vice-president-and-a-janitor-2011-5 | May 08 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | icelogic_: google developers didn't make the choice | May 08 23:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nn | May 08 23:17 |
| http://cinelerra.org/ is a package I'd like to have on hand but it looks like a pain to get for Debian. | May 08 23:17 | |
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| it might be easier to run in a VM | May 08 23:18 | |
| My Lenny VM is surprising light on resources, I hardly notice it running. | May 08 23:18 | |
| icelogic_ | who made it then roy ? | May 08 23:18 |
| ThistleWeb | googles legal dept I'd imagine | May 08 23:18 |
| in conjunction with big evil telco lawyers | May 08 23:19 | |
| cubezzz | twitter, what hardware are you using? | May 08 23:19 |
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| thinkpad X60 | May 08 23:19 | |
| used | May 08 23:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] World of Warcraft advertising on the !Minecraft wiki? LOL. Too late, folks, you've lost.... :D | May 08 23:20 | |
| $300 or so at Lenovo certified used. | May 08 23:20 | |
| icelogic_ | i would bet if i went to a google develper forum and asked them what they think of the gpl v3 the develpers woudl say the gpl 3 is crap | May 08 23:20 |
| icelogic_ | gpl favors the code and user over the developer thats why developes dont like it | May 08 23:21 |
| gpl is one of the most widely used software licenses because developers and business people like it | May 08 23:22 | |
| icelogic_ | i posted it in teh open solaris forum to use it and the developers tore me a new ass hole | May 08 23:22 |
| icelogic_ | i can probably still find the post | May 08 23:22 |
| icelogic_ | they said they liked the sun licence | May 08 23:23 |
| icelogic_ | and gpl was crap it was unanimous | May 08 23:23 |
| cubezzz | well I'd expect solaris people to say that :) | May 08 23:23 |
| icelogic_ | from teh developers | May 08 23:23 |
| icelogic_ | and they called me a troll lol | May 08 23:23 |
| icelogic_ | because all i asked was why they didnt switch when they promised | May 08 23:24 |
| cubezzz | in the 80's we released code and didn't give a fig about the license | May 08 23:24 |
| that'll learn you, cubezzz | May 08 23:24 | |
| Ender2070 | KDE 3 is for heretics | May 08 23:24 |
| cubezzz | people just liked to program | May 08 23:25 |
| some people still like that | May 08 23:25 | |
| cubezzz | twitter, oh now I would use the GPL though | May 08 23:25 |
| but if you don't care and are sloppy, you end up like Xemacs | May 08 23:25 | |
| cubezzz | lots of code got lost too | May 08 23:26 |
| icelogic_ | what distros do you all use | May 08 23:26 |
| Ender2070 | Fedora + KDE4 | May 08 23:26 |
| cubezzz | Vector Linux, FC1, freebsd, embedix, AmigaDOS, AROS, Plan 9, various Fedora's | May 08 23:27 |
| ThistleWeb | vista | May 08 23:27 |
| icelogic_ | do you think kde is as functional and well made as gnome? | May 08 23:27 |
| *ThistleWeb hides | May 08 23:27 | |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 08 23:27 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:27 |
| Ender2070 | icelogic_ its better | May 08 23:27 |
| cubezzz | yeah vista is the best.... | May 08 23:27 |
| cubezzz | ..... at bloatware | May 08 23:27 |
| icelogic_ | cool ill check it out | May 08 23:27 |
| icelogic_ | not vista but kde lol | May 08 23:27 |
| icelogic_ | thistle we need to do our bdsm webcast dont forget | May 08 23:28 |
| ThistleWeb | kde4 is awesome now | May 08 23:28 |
| icelogic_ | yea so i her | May 08 23:28 |
| icelogic_ | hear | May 08 23:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] "It's going to be hard to get a table for brunch on Mother's Day." "Nah, nobody's mother actually lives here." #nyc #sad | May 08 23:28 | |
| cubezzz | eh, I still like KDE 3.5.10 | May 08 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sabily.org/website/en/component/content/article/6-news/550-sabily-1104-released.html "The Sabily team is proud to announce the release of the new version of Sabily 11.04, codename "Badr"." | May 08 23:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 08 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Bad Ballmer? | May 08 23:28 |
| cubezzz | but whatever floats your boat :) | May 08 23:28 |
| Ender2070 | it gets more depreciated as time goes on | May 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | [23:18] <icelogic_> who made it then roy ?\ | May 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Probably lawyers and Phbs | May 08 23:29 |
| cubezzz | before I even knew about Stallman I was looking at Fish disks | May 08 23:29 |
| icelogic_ | i think they are still rosponisble though | May 08 23:29 |
| icelogic_ | they contribute towards it | May 08 23:29 |
| ThistleWeb | whatever google do they're a magnet for parasite corps with lawyers so they have to make sure to keep every base covered | May 08 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Excited about the EL wire order I just placed. Throw in an Arduino and a wireless Guitar Hero controller and you've got a recipe for fun. | May 08 23:30 | |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-Haired_Boss | May 08 23:30 |
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| icelogic_ | i think google is a better big company | May 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | now philosophy bachelor :-) | May 08 23:30 |
| icelogic_ | but i still think in my opinion usig the gpl v3 would would have helped roy | May 08 23:31 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: lawyers are NECESSARY | May 08 23:31 |
| schestowitz | ,say lawyers | May 08 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Bombs are necessary | May 08 23:31 |
| cubezzz | yeah but was Vista really necessary? :) | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | , says Raytheon | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes! | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Says Ballmer | May 08 23:32 |
| cubezzz | that was a pretty big bomb | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | they broke sales records | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | but only short term | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | They sold crap to sheep | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | And later on they messed up the reputation of Windows | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Also bear in mind XP launch was a decade ago | May 08 23:32 |
| cubezzz | I sympathize with DEC a bit more now | May 08 23:32 |
| schestowitz | So fewr pcs, lower prices before inflation, not many yars since wink | May 08 23:33 |
| schestowitz | *win2k | May 08 23:33 |
| ThistleWeb | when you're home turf is patentland you have to be careful of the wolves | May 08 23:33 |
| icelogic_ | why didnt you guys come to my windows 7 launch party | May 08 23:33 |
| schestowitz | sure! | May 08 23:33 |
| schestowitz | how do we launch it? | May 08 23:33 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:33 |
| cubezzz | icelogic_ but will windows 7 run on my 486? | May 08 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I can maybe get rockets in chinatown here | May 08 23:33 |
| cubezzz | if so I'm there dude | May 08 23:33 |
| icelogic_ | windows 7 will run on you | May 08 23:33 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:33 |
| ThistleWeb | launch party? shove a windows 7 disc in a rocket & launch it? | May 08 23:33 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz - nothing modern will run on it | May 08 23:34 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:34 |
| schestowitz | in Soviet Russia, Vista 7 launchs user! | May 08 23:34 |
| icelogic_ | ye athistle | May 08 23:34 |
| ThistleWeb | aka BSOD in orbit | May 08 23:34 |
| *twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has joined #techrights | May 08 23:34 | |
| icelogic_ | put a 7 up my arse | May 08 23:34 |
| nice | May 08 23:34 | |
| icelogic_ | that a launch party | May 08 23:34 |
| ThistleWeb | try the 1st few chars of someones nick and hit TAB | May 08 23:34 |
| schestowitz | you set the rocket off | May 08 23:34 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:22] <icelogic_> i posted it in teh open solaris forum to use it and the developers tore me a new ass hole | May 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | That'll do | May 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | I'll switch to windows 7..... the day it supports PDP-8 | May 08 23:35 |
| ThistleWeb | you're the only 1 starting with i, so just i TAB completes your nick | May 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | with 32Kwords | May 08 23:35 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz - fool | May 08 23:35 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg << looks like Bellouszo the mole | May 08 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: File:Pointy-Haired Boss.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 23.39 KB | May 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | http://rickbelluzzo.com/ | May 08 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rick Belluzzo .::. Size~: 1.07 KB | May 08 23:36 |
| ThistleWeb | lol many corps seem modelled on dilbert | May 08 23:36 |
| icelogic_ | roy and thistle would you do a web cast with me some time its a much crappier version of techbytes | May 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer is a PHB | May 08 23:37 |
| icelogic_ | but i can mix it good | May 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Excepr the H | May 08 23:37 |
| icelogic_ | short only 20 minutes | May 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Vixta is out | May 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Not Vixta 7 | May 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | They renamed | May 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | http://xange.serdigital.com/ | May 08 23:38 |
| icelogic_ | thats right i for got | May 08 23:38 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | thats right i for got | May 08 23:38 |
| ThistleWeb | icelogic_: depends on when and what about | May 08 23:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies My mother has lived in !NYC (true name: #New_York ) since she was 5 | May 08 23:41 | |
| icelogic_ | an open disussion about fresoftware net neutrality and tech freedom | May 08 23:43 |
| icelogic_ | not scripted jsut a short discussion | May 08 23:43 |
| icelogic_ | with some bullets to keep us on track every one comes up with a few bullets | May 08 23:43 |
| ThistleWeb | so kinda like techbytes then | May 08 23:44 |
| icelogic_ | its different | May 08 23:44 |
| icelogic_ | its short | May 08 23:44 |
| icelogic_ | and more like a discussion | May 08 23:44 |
| icelogic_ | tech bytes has guests and news and is more professional | May 08 23:44 |
| icelogic_ | this is more like a fun thing | May 08 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | that's a large range of stuff to fit in a short time | May 08 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kicked off a new! Miners server map render | May 08 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Kicked off a new !Miners server map render and now I'm off to bed. | May 08 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana I'll print a retraction immediately. | May 08 23:45 | |
| icelogic_ | at 20-30 minutes | May 08 23:45 |
| icelogic_ | its just a quickte | May 08 23:45 |
| icelogic_ | quickie | May 08 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | with a large scope of subjects it's very easy to talk for ages to explore a subject | May 08 23:45 |
| icelogic_ | techbytes is indepth | May 08 23:46 |
| icelogic_ | the webcast i do is just a quck open table | May 08 23:46 |
| icelogic_ | fur fun | May 08 23:46 |
| icelogic_ | we can see if roy hosts it | May 08 23:46 |
| icelogic_ | hpr and anyone elses site | May 08 23:47 |
| icelogic_ | released under the creative commons | May 08 23:47 |
| icelogic_ | for what ever | May 08 23:47 |
| icelogic_ | just for fun | May 08 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | tbh it'd be easier to have you on an ep of techbytes | May 08 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | as part of the discussion | May 08 23:47 |
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| icelogic_ | id love to but i dont think i am at that level | May 08 23:48 |
| icelogic_ | i am too stupid | May 08 23:48 |
| icelogic_ | roy is too smart man | May 08 23:48 |
| ThistleWeb | what level? we're just people | May 08 23:48 |
| icelogic_ | i just liek to have fun | May 08 23:48 |
| cubezzz | I'm doing one on retrocomputing soon | May 08 23:49 |
| icelogic_ | goblin and roy have ther stuff set up pretty good | May 08 23:49 |
| icelogic_ | i just go woth the flow i coud use a scottih dude though | May 08 23:49 |
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| icelogic_ | scottish dude would sound bad ass | May 08 23:49 |
| cubezzz | I'll call Andy Murray then | May 08 23:50 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:50 |
| icelogic_ | tech bytes has well know folks like jono and rms in teh future | May 08 23:51 |
| cubezzz | I have to admit, for hard to find computer stuff, I end up going to the UK a lot | May 08 23:51 |
| icelogic_ | mine is just talk no guests really | May 08 23:51 |
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| ThistleWeb | we're just people with opinions | May 08 23:51 |
| ThistleWeb | nothing special | May 08 23:51 |
| icelogic_ | make a web cast with me dude | May 08 23:52 |
| ThistleWeb | when? | May 08 23:53 |
| icelogic_ | now | May 08 23:53 |
| icelogic_ | lol | May 08 23:53 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm not mucking about with mumble now, but if skype is ok, then sure, in a few mins | May 08 23:54 |
| icelogic_ | ok lets do it | May 08 23:54 |
| icelogic_ | get on skype | May 08 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2011/05/sony-issue-apology-after-personal-details-of-100m-customers-stolen.html http://blogs.forbes.com/insertcoin/2011/05/06/sony-president-apologizes-for-breach-offers-free-identity-theft-protection/ http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/sony-and-friends-or-transparent-damage-limitation-open-letter-style/ | May 08 23:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony President Apologizes for Breach, Offers Free Identity Theft Protection - Paul Tassi - Insert Coin - Forbes .::. Size~: 93.41 KB | May 08 23:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony and “friends” Or transparent damage limitation open letter style? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 42.69 KB | May 08 23:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8490321/Pensioner-arrested-for-feeding-pigeons.html | May 08 23:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pensioner arrested for feeding pigeons - Telegraph .::. Size~: 69.17 KB | May 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Does Murdoch own the Telegraph? | May 08 23:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY | May 08 23:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Tom Lehrer - Poisoning Pigeons In The Park - now on DVD .::. Size~: 117.99 KB | May 08 23:58 |
| icelogic_ | thistle i already added you | May 08 23:58 |
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| icelogic_ | i am gnulogic on skype | May 08 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4: And here's a #gPodder tres update: http://youtu.be/PPWXIuVy2HI - new download and playback progress indicator for the #QML UI. | May 08 23:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - gPodder/QML new download and playback progress indicators (2011-05-08) .::. Size~: 99.47 KB | May 08 23:58 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its easy to kill pigeons, all you got to do is buy a box of tums or any other anacid. | May 08 23:59 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: apparently the gases from the tablets are too much for the pigeon's stomach to take | May 08 23:59 |
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