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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Points of Interest Core Published http://ow.ly/1cEdUN | May 14 00:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RIF In RDF Note Published http://ow.ly/1cEdUM | May 14 00:05 | |
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| schestowitz | Ah, I think I got it.... | May 14 00:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the one thing that drains me about #Crunchbang is the obsession with black, slate grey etc themes I can change, forums are not fun to use | May 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I have used the forums on occasion but would never join because the colours are not easy on the eye, fine in short bursts to check something | May 14 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] dark themes are VERY hard to do right where they're practical, the default #Crunchbang #Openbox and forum theme are not easy on the eye | May 14 00:29 | |
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| _Goblin | Bonjour. | May 14 01:10 |
| ThistleWeb | zuit alore | May 14 01:11 |
| _Goblin | mon deu | May 14 01:12 |
| _Goblin | I think | May 14 01:12 |
| _Goblin | or maybe moin deu | May 14 01:12 |
| _Goblin | anyone French here? | May 14 01:12 |
| cubezzz | I had one year of French and forgot most of it :) | May 14 01:14 |
| cubezzz | there's always google translate | May 14 01:15 |
| ThistleWeb | downloaded arse bang to try on the netbook | May 14 01:15 |
| ThistleWeb | archbang* | May 14 01:15 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 14 01:17 |
| _Goblin | great distro though | May 14 01:17 |
| ThistleWeb | not tried it, was impressed with openbox, I like the idea of a rolling ditro for the netbook | May 14 01:19 |
| ThistleWeb | specially a reasnably modern one | May 14 01:19 |
| ThistleWeb | crunchbang is awesome on the netbook, not rolling, not all that up to date though | May 14 01:20 |
| ThistleWeb | tried umplayer for watching youtube? | May 14 01:23 |
| cubezzz | I'll try it sometime | May 14 01:27 |
| ThistleWeb | it's the new smplayer, it's excellent | May 14 01:27 |
| cubezzz | thing is my computers are getting rather old... | May 14 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | so is my desktop | May 14 01:28 |
| cubezzz | still looking for the 'perfect' system | May 14 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | it's actually lighter to browse and watch youtube with umplayer than any browser | May 14 01:28 |
| cubezzz | interesting | May 14 01:29 |
| cubezzz | thing is none of my boxes can handle 1280x720 video | May 14 01:29 |
| cubezzz | sometimes when I grab the file it ends up being a higher res | May 14 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | nor mine | May 14 01:30 |
| cubezzz | what are you running? | May 14 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | it has the option to play, download etc | May 14 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | P4, 256mb ram with debian squeeze xfce | May 14 01:30 |
| cubezzz | yeah I have to convert the video to a lower res :-/ | May 14 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | seriously, try umplayer.com | May 14 01:31 |
| cubezzz | I will | May 14 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | I love smplayer, which is now abandoned......replaced by smplayer, it's awesome | May 14 01:32 |
| ThistleWeb | umplayer* | May 14 01:32 |
| cubezzz | I'm trying to put together a system with open bios, fast, efficient power use, and multiple FOSS OSes | May 14 01:33 |
| cubezzz | still researching though | May 14 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Public Service Announcement: Wine 1.3.20 packages available http://ping.fm/wx90B | May 14 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Chromebook's auto-update scheme will be hard sell | Computerworld New Zealand http://ping.fm/kxnrq | May 14 01:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Chromebook's auto-update scheme will be hard sell | Computerworld New Zealand .::. Size~: 38.5 KB | May 14 01:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ Uploaded http://ur1.ca/468bt | May 14 01:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Dropbox Lied to Users About Data !Security, Complaint to FTC Alleges | Threat Level | Wired.com http://ping.fm/6ucn5 | May 14 01:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SpiderOak and Wuala - mentioned in the article - look interesting http://ping.fm/VapZz | May 14 01:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dropbox Lied to Users About Data Security, Complaint to FTC Alleges | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 68.47 KB | May 14 01:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie Fancy an argument with me in person? See "Has #copyright passed its sell-by date?" http://meetup.com/CrowdSourcedDebating/ev ... | May 14 02:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Sony yet to fully secure its networks - expert - Reuters UK http://ping.fm/hHma3 | May 14 02:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] dinner and a movie now (something cheerier than Vis fie Vendetta tonight) | May 14 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | good night | May 14 02:10 |
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| Ender2070 | im back | May 14 02:28 |
| Ender2070 | yeah that was weird | May 14 02:28 |
| Ender2070 | copying and pasting between rdp, nx, and putty | May 14 02:29 |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?52175-AMD-s-Hiring-Open-Source-Graphics-Developers-Still&p=207557#post207557 | May 14 03:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Drop it like it's hot: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/dropbox-ftc/ | May 14 03:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ford has Microsoft software in their car now | May 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | just what the world needs | May 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | your GPS unit gets a spyware infestation and starts popping up porn ads | May 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | in 200 feet....CUM IN MY TIGHT PUSSY | May 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | -me | May 14 03:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Macleans: Will anonymity and hyperlinks be illegal in !Canada? http://ur1.ca/457a4 !cdnpoli !netNeutrality < say what? illegal to link? | May 14 04:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden It's life, Jim, but not as we know it. | May 14 04:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "When there's a planet that we have to explore on then we've got to go... Beam Down" | May 14 04:21 | |
| Ender2070 | msb_ whats up with melatonin | May 14 04:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Chekov and Kirk and Spock take Dr. McCoy and all their gear to go ... beam down" | May 14 04:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Just listen to the humming of the enterprise transporter-- Beaming us down to the planet where we oughta'-- Be exploring... " | May 14 04:22 | |
| msb_ | Ender2070: don't know much about it, Try wikip. | May 14 04:23 |
| Ender2070 | I know | May 14 04:24 |
| Ender2070 | apparently canabis causes it to be made inside your brain | May 14 04:24 |
| Ender2070 | i wonder if thats why its illegal | May 14 04:24 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#In_humans | May 14 04:24 |
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| Ender2070 | seems to be anti aging, prevents autism, makes dreams better, is an antioxidant (melatonin) | May 14 04:25 |
| Ender2070 | its part of your sleep cycle | May 14 04:25 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: sounds great. afaik it's legal in US. | May 14 04:26 |
| Ender2070 | melatonin | May 14 04:28 |
| Ender2070 | yes | May 14 04:28 |
| Ender2070 | in canada too | May 14 04:28 |
| Ender2070 | i was researching the ingredients to this drink i just purchased at the store | May 14 04:29 |
| Ender2070 | "Marley's Mellow mood" | May 14 04:29 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: schestowitz, Diablo-D3, why we need unions, socialism, social democracy etc http://cosmicpenguin.com/tmp/colliery2 http://cosmicpenguin.com/tmp/colliery3f | May 14 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | May 14 04:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | May 14 04:29 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.marleybeverages.com/ | May 14 04:29 |
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| Diablo-D3 | msb_: I wrote a bitcoin miner. what more do you want out of me. | May 14 04:29 |
| msb_ | Our fake-democracy is actually one-dollar-one-vote. | May 14 04:30 |
| cubezzz | msb_, so who did you vote for in the last election? | May 14 04:32 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: Obomber. I was totally deceived. | May 14 04:33 |
| cubezzz | hard to know who to vote for sometimes | May 14 04:35 |
| msb_ | Both US parties almost totally evil, fascist-corporatist/ | May 14 04:35 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2011/05/13/mb-flooding-lake-manitoba.html | May 14 04:35 |
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| cubezzz | I heard Ron Paul is running again | May 14 04:36 |
| Ender2070 | msb_ I actually didn't vote | May 14 04:36 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/usa/The-Mississippi-River-Floods-Americas-Heartland-121809599.html | May 14 04:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Mississippi River Floods America’s Heartland | U.S.A | Learning English .::. Size~: 74.09 KB | May 14 04:37 |
| msb_ | Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich would be my ideal candidates. | May 14 04:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Now, if I was an archangel, I would choose Status Net for microblogging, but if I was an archangel I wouldn't engage in spamming | May 14 04:42 | |
| cubezzz | did you vote in 1964? | May 14 04:42 |
| Ender2070 | in the states yeah I'd pick Ron Paul | May 14 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | in Canada, they're all shills | May 14 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | we dont have our own Ron Paul counterpart | May 14 04:43 |
| Ender2070 | Power Corp controls Liberals, Douglas-Coldwell and Fabian Society control NDP, Oil controls CPC | May 14 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | Terrorists control Bloc | May 14 04:44 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: don't remember | May 14 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-01-31/news/os-see-through-walls-device-bill-nels20110131_1_law-enforcement-device-bill-nelson | May 14 04:46 |
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| Ender2070 | CCTV is a joke now | May 14 04:46 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: "Terrorists control Bloc" ??? | May 14 04:47 |
| Ender2070 | yea | May 14 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | treasonous seperatists | May 14 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | when your supporters are people who would blow up a Second Cup because of the company's use of its incorporated English name | May 14 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_lib%C3%A9ration_du_Qu%C3%A9bec | May 14 04:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Front de libération du Québec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 71.52 KB | May 14 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | Rhéal Mathieu | May 14 04:51 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: y not let Q separate if they vote to? | May 14 04:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @arkblitz - Photo - http://ur1.ca/46aa3 << lmao... what a GREAT message! | May 14 04:52 | |
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| Ender2070 | its not up to us | May 14 04:52 |
| Ender2070 | and they dont vote for it | May 14 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | its a minority | May 14 04:53 |
| cubezzz | msb_, how many times do they get to vote to separate though? | May 14 04:53 |
| cubezzz | besides the Bloc was reduced to 4 seats | May 14 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | one of the last times they voted to seperate, they sent faxes to warships around the country getting them prepared to surround quebec | May 14 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | thats an act of war against the Queen, who actually owns the land | May 14 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | treason | May 14 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#Canada | May 14 04:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @haris Why #Innovation Is Under Attack http://ur1.ca/46aac !copyright !cdnpoli #DigitalEconomy | May 14 04:56 | |
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| msb_ | What % of Q's want to sep? | May 14 04:57 |
| cubezzz | hard to say | May 14 04:57 |
| cubezzz | last time it was 49.something % | May 14 04:58 |
| msb_ | Queen should own nothing. | May 14 04:58 |
| cubezzz | really close... but now I couldn't say | May 14 04:58 |
| cubezzz | probably a lot less | May 14 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | it wasnt that high | May 14 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | the last one was 1995 | May 14 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | there hasnt been enough support since to do another one | May 14 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | especially after 1997 | May 14 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | the ice storm | May 14 04:59 |
| Ender2070 | where everyone in canada showed quebec how much it cared | May 14 05:00 |
| Ender2070 | Polling data by Angus Reid in June 2009 showed the support for Quebec separation was very weak at the time and separatism unlikely to occur in the near future. Polling data showed that 32% of Quebecers believe that Quebec had enough sovereignty and should remain part of Canada, 28% thought they should separate, and 30% say they believe that Quebec does need greater sovereignty but should remain part of Canada | May 14 05:00 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_sovereignty_movement | May 14 05:01 |
| Ender2070 | split 3 ways now | May 14 05:01 |
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| msb_ | Big problem with capitalism and technology: The more the work is done by machines, the more people jobless, homeless, starving. | May 14 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | I think thats a problem with money in general | May 14 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | I doubt anyone would use people to do something when its cheaper to use machines | May 14 05:07 |
| msb_ | Nor should they, but then wealth needs to be redistributed from the wealthy owners of the machines to everyone else. | May 14 05:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Can't believe that what the CIA does is still called intelligence. | May 14 05:09 | |
| Ender2070 | why should everyone be entitled to that when only a few normally would | May 14 05:09 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: Then what is your solution? Let them die? | May 14 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | Canada has tons of land, give them some land where they can grow their own food and give people jobs to assist | May 14 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | bam | May 14 05:10 |
| cubezzz | msb_, In Canada we pretty much do what you suggest | May 14 05:10 |
| cubezzz | the distribution of wealth in Canada is more even than a lot of countries | May 14 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | theres no way to cash in on that or tax anything though | May 14 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | so never will it be tried out | May 14 05:11 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: = Social Democracy | May 14 05:11 |
| cubezzz | basically yes | May 14 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | giving people their own land to grow and survive is a pretty good deal | May 14 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | theres PLENTY of it to go around | May 14 05:11 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: But one modern farmer can feed 50. | May 14 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | we only have 33 million people | May 14 05:11 |
| Ender2070 | you could even as a trade off, have them give a percentage of what they grow to the government | May 14 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | for giving them the land | May 14 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | except you have environmentalists protesting the government against stuff like this | May 14 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | save the trees, let people die | May 14 05:12 |
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| AdmFubar_ | hi all | May 14 05:12 |
| AdmFubar_ | dunno if anyone here has caught this one http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/ios-developers-receive-legal-threats-over-in-app-purchasing-066 | May 14 05:12 |
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| Ender2070 | instead of letting some asshole sit on his couch watching tv collecting welfare and selling drugs | May 14 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | he could be providing food for others, getting excercise which would put less strain on the free health care | May 14 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | would you have to tax everything to give someone some land? no | May 14 05:14 |
| msb_ | Nothing wrong with selling good psychedelics. A beneficial service industry. | May 14 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | it is when you're not doing it via proper business channels | May 14 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | ie, sitting on welfare and making profit on drugs, paying no taxes and just leeching | May 14 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | there are people like this I actually know | May 14 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | its not rhetoric | May 14 05:15 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: A hi-tech farmer can grow enough for 50 people. So you either force those poor farmers to be low-tech or you still have 98% of the problem. | May 14 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | they could be selling anything for the purpose of this example | May 14 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | why can't you setup those poor farmers so they can produce for 50 people | May 14 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | 1 per 50 people? | May 14 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | good deal | May 14 05:16 |
| Ender2070 | an initial burden for tax payers for equipment, but the 1 to 50 rate would make it worth it | May 14 05:17 |
| msb_ | Then what do all the other unemployed 98% do? | May 14 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | work on a farm somewhere | May 14 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | its better than doing nothing | May 14 05:17 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: you're not thinking this thru. | May 14 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | it doesnt make sense to let someone sit on their ass | May 14 05:18 |
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| Ender2070 | unless they physically can't do anything | May 14 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | if your 20-30 years old you can be out there doing something with your life | May 14 05:18 |
| msb_ | Then you'd have to share the jobs -- have a 7 hour work week. | May 14 05:19 |
| msb_ | And limit company owners to getting max 5x what the lowest-paid employee gets. | May 14 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | your missing the point | May 14 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | why arent people allowed to get rich, first of all? | May 14 05:20 |
| msb_ | Then all could be employed. | May 14 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | that makes no sense | May 14 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | you could already employ everyone | May 14 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | at least in my country | May 14 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | im not talking about USA | May 14 05:21 |
| msb_ | Because big rich wealth comes out of company profits that otherwise would go to workers' salaries. | May 14 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | not necessarily | May 14 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | why should someone make more than they are skilled enough to earn | May 14 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | theres a job market and people have the freedom to find another job if they feel they are not being paid well enough | May 14 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | which sets the rates | May 14 05:22 |
| msb_ | Why should they not starve in the street? | May 14 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | why would they have to starve in the street | May 14 05:23 |
| msb_ | With enough machines and 40-hour work week there are not unfilled jobs. | May 14 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | you could give every single person in canada their own piece of land which could grow food | May 14 05:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm The intellectually challenged and the euphemism treadmill. http://larryrusswurm.com/2011/05/11/policing-the-word-police/ | May 14 05:24 | |
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| Ender2070 | esentially everyone could have a job, you wouldn't want to give every single person land to grow food but you could setup everyone who was unemployed with land | May 14 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | other unemployed people could work for them | May 14 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | it would benefit everyone | May 14 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | it would drive down the costs of food | May 14 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | it sounds better than just stealing from the rich and giving it to the poor | May 14 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | i like the idea that i may be able to be rich too and never have to work again | May 14 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | i'd like it to happen before im old | May 14 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | lots of people do, its why the lottery is so profitable | May 14 05:26 |
| msb_ | Ender2070: pls talk w me via skype now. call me | May 14 05:27 |
| Ender2070 | if i were in the position where i were homeless and had nothing, i would take it by force myself, i wouldnt go crying to the government | May 14 05:27 |
| Ender2070 | i cant right now its too late and people are sleeping | May 14 05:27 |
| Ender2070 | i understand your hand, we'll talk tomorrow | May 14 05:28 |
| msb_ | ok | May 14 05:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @stickster I hope all the new friends I made while in Costa Rica are safe. There was a 6.0 quake there just mins ago. Holler if you're OK! | May 14 05:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] nice to see a movie with a similar quote I always said: Walk to remember | May 14 05:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ervin and notmart are sleeping quietly in the appt. about to go wake them up mercilessly. ok, maybe with some mercy. it is 7am after all. | May 14 06:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] then breakfast and off to gottlieben to adopt a ring. ;) | May 14 06:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ITC Minister Valerian #Vreme, #Romania : "I will not endorse a law mandating public institutions to use #Linux " http://is.gd/vXQLHn #egovt | May 14 06:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the FoxyProxy page is now also blocked? !OnlyInChina #GFW | May 14 07:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Did not remember how F-spot (Mono based apps) suck badly. Nice drop by Ubuntu. | May 14 07:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 159 million downloads on 2011-05-14 06:12 UTC | May 14 07:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Shotwell beats #fspot being lighter, faster, more reliable. Fspot has more feature, but at a price (in Mint hangs my computer, unusable) | May 14 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] which database engines are supported on Node.JS providers, like heroku, no.de, etc? /me considers moving the storage backend to MongoDB. | May 14 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada "National Day of Action - Saturday May 14" http://ur1.ca/46ase parl41 !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote | May 14 07:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Use drop box? Sucker! Drop it like it's hot: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/dropbox-ftc/ | May 14 07:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] *sigh* out of blogging practice.... too tired to get a third post tonight, ah well. | May 14 07:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ruiseabra Use drop box? Sucker! Drop it like it's hot: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/dropbox-ftc/ | May 14 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Still on denial phase... 'Record labels are not dinosaurs of the music industry' http://gu.com/p/2p4gk/tf | May 14 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] 3hrs sleep, today Startup Weekend Warsaw (@swwaw), Philosophical Tram (http://rys.io/tramwaj) and couple of parties. sleep is for loosers! | May 14 07:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nj3ma "PhD student Soghoian published data.. showing that Dropbox could indeed see the contents of files.." http://ur1.ca/46avg @ian ... | May 14 07:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight !Identiverse | May 14 08:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] people pouring in, slowly, for #swwaw. chilling, listening to !cc music - SaReGaMa, universal constructors, Roger Subirana (jamendo.com) | May 14 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] the sky is falling - @piorekf has signed-up for an #identi.ca account! :) well hello there | May 14 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how would the #glider look on a hex board? "well, we'll just need to breed it!" Team #1 r0x. #swwaw !hack | May 14 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @fkarlitschek First "Open Collaboration Services" developer meeting starts today at the Humboldt University in Berlin. Looking forwar ... | May 14 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Cars So Stunning, They’re in a Museum: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/05/ralph-lauren-collection/ | May 14 08:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Been awake nearly an hour and a half or something, good morning Identiverse :)! | May 14 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | "ITC Minister Valerian #Vreme, #Romania : "I will not endorse a law mandating public institutions to use #Linux " http://is.gd/vXQLHn  " | May 14 08:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Been awake about an hour and a half or something, good morning !identiverse :)! | May 14 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valerian #Vreme, #Romania : "I will not endorse a law mandating public institutions to use #Linux http://is.gd/vXQLHn  v @rsandu | May 14 08:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me watching HBO... "It was a good death" - the Last Samurai | May 14 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Too tired to figure out what went wrong, here is the properly posted blog “ !Inconstant Moon” update ~ Uploaded http://ur1.ca/46b0x !selfPub | May 14 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] .... good night john-boy ... | May 14 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] xFree 'Browser in a Box' Runs #Firefox 4 with Ultra Security http://is.gd/xN7M76 #mozilla | May 14 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Great #GNU #Linux World Map http://is.gd/nTfWgb nice idea | May 14 08:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | I switched over to wifi, what the hell? | May 14 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | one less cable in the spaghetti cabling going on back there | May 14 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What You Should Know When Migrating From #Windows to #Linux http://is.gd/IgK4mT | May 14 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Commodore 64 moved to #gnu #linux http://is.gd/knRGj4 | May 14 08:57 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 08:57 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://is.gd/knRGj4 ) | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, According to Virtual Richard M Stallman, I only have one nonfree program on my system right now | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | (it's counting the Sauerbraten Data package :P | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ vrms | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Non-free packages installed on ryan-MS-7501 | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | sauerbraten-data Game content for the Sauerbraten game | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Contrib packages installed on ryan-MS-7501 | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | sauerbraten 3D first-person game engine | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | sauerbraten-wake6 Small but dodgy deathmatch/instagib map for the Sauerb | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | 1 non-free packages, 0.1% of 1339 installed packages. | May 14 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | 2 contrib packages, 0.1% of 1339 installed packages. | May 14 08:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] https://www.iis.se/blogg/hackare-intar-se | May 14 08:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, hit F6 and select Free Software Only on the *buntu Live CD and you shed a whole bunch of nonfree crap that you probably don't need anyway | May 14 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | enable the multiverse repo later yourself for patented codecs | May 14 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | I know without the Free Software Only switch, you get like 6-7 packages from Canonical that are nonfree | May 14 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | and it's stupid crap like nonfree artwork | May 14 09:00 |
| schestowitz | okay, great! | May 14 09:00 |
| schestowitz | wh ar you trying to impress ryan? | May 14 09:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 Open Source OS: Looking at the Pros and Cons http://is.gd/vGWDH9 Desktop 8.04 LTS reaches end of life http://is.gd/s7tq4u | May 14 09:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @kletskous Goed artikel: 5 kwaadaardige kanten van DPI http://is.gd/3bP9LC #webwereld #KPN #Vodafone | May 14 09:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | meh, I just got rid of an old wifi card that needed nonfree firmware and got a newer one that doesn't | May 14 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | it set me going to see what else I could toss | May 14 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get how vrms makes the determination of what is free software and what isn't | May 14 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | for example, it doesn't count the linux-firmware package even though it has tons of nonfree firmware blobs (though some of them are free) | May 14 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] at Startup Weekend we're currently spreading FOOD. ;) #swwaw | May 14 09:04 | |
| DaemonFC | Debian Squeeze doesn't really "squeeze" out all the nonfree firmware | May 14 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | if it did, almost no onboard NICs would work, Realtek is popular and their firmware is redistributable but not free | May 14 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | but if you boot Squeeze, it loads nonfree Realtec firmware, but your Radeon is a framebuffer | May 14 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | I get why they left the nonfree NIC firmware, a system without a working NIC is not useful at all, especially on an OS that needs the internet to grab new software | May 14 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | but then they go and say they got rid of all the nonfree firmware by default, which they obviously didn't | May 14 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | No matter how "free" a distribution says it is, you can almost always find something they overlooked, even if it was just by mistake | May 14 09:08 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really its how deep you look as well. | May 14 09:10 |
| oiaohm | If the OS does not have firmware blobs there is still in a lot of cases firmware blobs on the hardware itself. | May 14 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well, the fact that there's several definitions of free doesn't help | May 14 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that Debian doesn't follow their own guidelines doesn't help | May 14 09:11 |
| schestowitz | meh | May 14 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | and the fact that there's no real effort to replace proprietary firmware because the kernel developers will gladly redistribute binaries doesn't help | May 14 09:11 |
| oiaohm | new amd chip sets with coreboot from start line. | May 14 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | so what do you do, right? | May 14 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that Coreboot is free is nice | May 14 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #gnome 3 http://is.gd/lv1n51 "nice things about gnome 3 and I look forward to being able to run it properly to get access to those things." | May 14 09:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | but to me, the fact that it gets rid of all the headaches the PC BIOS causes is nicer | May 14 09:12 |
| oiaohm | You can still bet there will be some firmware blobs . DaemonFC | May 14 09:13 |
| oiaohm | Some cases there are valid reasons for not providing the source to the blobs. | May 14 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !mdv http://identi.ca/notice/73478970 | May 14 09:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 07:54:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @maverick: #Mageia is a new 100% community !Linux #distro a !Mandriva fork. The first stable final release is expected on June 1st :)! | May 14 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, the thing I'm most concerned with, with binary only firmware is malware | May 14 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's been demonstrated that firmware blobs can execute malicious code | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz | anything can | May 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz | the question is whether you know it or not | May 14 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | right, so here you have something in the kernel doing it | May 14 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | instant rootkit? | May 14 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | so effectively, even the Linux developers can't tell you what Linux as presented will do when you run it on your computer | May 14 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Newspaper map: 10,000 titles - http://bit.ly/irh1mR with handy #google translation into 20 languages #publishing | May 14 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Strategies for getting more bridge addresses: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/strategies-getting-more-bridge-addresses | May 14 09:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dropbox 'deceived' users over security: Files are open to government searches http://is.gd/4Kp2kB because of the TERROR~1!! | May 14 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] re http://is.gd/ysZgsg PJ: "Then we the innocent have been tracked and monitored and completely lost our privacy for absolutely nothing?" | May 14 09:19 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: someone dented about how http://ubuntu.com is mentioning Skype at the moment on the homepage | May 14 09:20 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I might still reply, but uhmm well | May 14 09:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Me riding my bike http://is.gd/jBgyey. Great pic by http://fotomoto.it | May 14 09:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] X Input 2.1 Not Coming Until X.Org Server 1.12 http://is.gd/FcKu6W #xorg #xserver #linux | May 14 09:21 | |
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| sebsebseb | this kind of thing can be expected from Ubuntu | May 14 09:21 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is a product from a for profit company (which apparently is still not making a profit) | May 14 09:21 |
| sebsebseb | a product yes, from a for profit company, that would love to take it main streame | May 14 09:21 |
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| sebsebseb | and many Windows users are likely to buy propritary software sometimes or just use it, so yeah | May 14 09:21 |
| sebsebseb | plus software centre offers propritary software for sale | May 14 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | Still not making a profit? What do they have to do? | May 14 09:22 |
| sebsebseb | yep still being bailed out by Shuttleworth's money | May 14 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | Is there anything left they haven't pissed on to mark Ubuntu One territory? | May 14 09:22 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu One territory? | May 14 09:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My experience with #GNOME 3 so far http://blog.kov.eti.br/?p=186 "My general feeling towards GNOME 3 is this: ♥. Yes, I love it" | May 14 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3-minute speech limit at EU #copyright hearing - http://bit.ly/kUdoCQ Ms Martin-Prat must know that we will watch her like a hawk #ipred | May 14 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] am I counting that right? 8 people from Warsaw Hackerspace (@hackerspacepl) at #swwaw in 3 projects #omgzergrush | May 14 09:26 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: What you mean Ubuntu One territoy? | May 14 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | I mean they put the Ubuntu One spam everywhere in Ubuntu | May 14 09:26 |
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| sebsebseb | they try and get people to use Ubuntu One yes | May 14 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | they've been saying for over a year now that Ubuntu One for KDE was coming | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | to ideally buy more space | May 14 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | great, another thing to apt-get purge | May 14 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | thanks guys! | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | they advertise the Music Centre, to yep ideally have people buying music from it | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | in the distro itself | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | in the installer I am thinking here | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | same for Ubuntu One | May 14 09:27 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh by the way since on Ubuntu, I uhmm well, I just bought loads of space for Ubuntu One, loads of music from the Ubuntu Music Store, oh and I bought nearly every app they had on sale in the software centre as well | May 14 09:28 |
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| sebsebseb | why? well uhmm you see uhmm, secretly I love Canonical and thought this would be a great way to support them! | May 14 09:28 |
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| DaemonFC | you're supporting the MPEG Cartel | May 14 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | and the RIAA | May 14 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | and Ubuntu might make a 1-2% commission | May 14 09:29 |
| sebsebseb | yeah well I love the MPEG Cartel and RIAA as well | May 14 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Calligra is the Future of Free Software Office Suites http://is.gd/GS2WE5 #koffice #kde #freedom #odf | May 14 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Innovation Is Under Attack - http://bit.ly/inywMx good summary #intellectualmonopolies | May 14 09:29 | |
| sebsebseb | and Microsoft | May 14 09:29 |
| sebsebseb | and Apple | May 14 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's why you use Unity | May 14 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | half the screen behaves like WIndows | May 14 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | and the other half behaves like OS X | May 14 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | only it crashes more than both of them put together | May 14 09:30 |
| sebsebseb | nope not using Unity right now, but oh yeah, Unity WOW, it's so uhmm amazing, so much better than Gnome Shell which sucks really yeah | May 14 09:30 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah OS X, how can I not have that OS already, geez man, I so been thinking about buying a Mac but why haven't I already, I got the money | May 14 09:30 |
| sebsebseb | in fact I think really expensive stuff is really cool useually | May 14 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like GNOME 3, but at least it doesn't crash and it isn't stuffed with whorebards and MPEG-RIAA stores | May 14 09:31 |
| sebsebseb | I think stuff that is expensive means good | May 14 09:31 |
| cubezzz | ha | May 14 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | *whorebars | May 14 09:31 |
| cubezzz | not necessarily | May 14 09:31 |
| sebsebseb | oh and I want to be like a chav now as we call them in UK | May 14 09:31 |
| sebsebseb | I want to go around with a Mac | May 14 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz loves the CRIA, and the CRIA loves cubezzz | May 14 09:31 |
| sebsebseb | thinking I am so cool | May 14 09:31 |
| sebsebseb | oh and owning a Mac may help me attract a really nice girl as well, since they look so pretty even to non technical people | May 14 09:32 |
| cubezzz | no, I'm pretty much neutral | May 14 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenNetwork - http://bit.ly/moLpv5 a vision of a completely distributed, resilient mobile phone network | May 14 09:32 | |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, is this sarcasm or serious? | May 14 09:32 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: it's a joke, not sure about right now if DaemonFC is still falling for it, but he seemed to have been at first :) | May 14 09:33 |
| cubezzz | ahh | May 14 09:33 |
| cubezzz | I think Mac is a totally waste of money | May 14 09:33 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah can get most of the real technical advantages for free with Linux distro's :) | May 14 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://spot.livejournal.com/317258.html | May 14 09:34 |
| cubezzz | in HS certain designer jeans were "must have's" in the 80s | May 14 09:34 |
| cubezzz | but now, I think that was stupid :) | May 14 09:34 |
| cubezzz | I still like my amiga though | May 14 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | If you want to buy pre-ruined jeans for $200, hand me the $200 and I'll sell you one of my old pairs | May 14 09:35 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 14 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | people that buy this shit are the ultimate assholes | May 14 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | Maximum Douche!!!!! | May 14 09:35 |
| cubezzz | can you imagine paying $100 for windows 7? | May 14 09:35 |
| cubezzz | not to mention whatever ipad 2 costs | May 14 09:36 |
| cubezzz | over $600 I think | May 14 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz waited out in the cold and rain all night, even brought a tent with him, so he could get Windows 7 Ultimate with Steve Ballmer's signature on it | May 14 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | then when schestowitz got there, they were all out, but Ballmer said "Hey kid, catch" and tossed him a sweaty polo shirt, size XXXXL | May 14 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | and schestowitz said "Gee thanks, mean Steve B!" | May 14 09:37 |
| cubezzz | haha | May 14 09:37 |
| cubezzz | yeah I remember the commercial | May 14 09:38 |
| cubezzz | 1979 | May 14 09:38 |
| cubezzz | before your time though I would have thought | May 14 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | yep | May 14 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft hasn't had a runaway hit since Windows 95 | May 14 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | even XP didn't sell that well | May 14 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | they managed to hype Windows 95 up so much that people who didn't even know what a PC was were in line to buy one | May 14 09:40 |
| cubezzz | the power of marketing | May 14 09:40 |
| cubezzz | I remember a guy installed win95 on some 386SX with little memory | May 14 09:41 |
| cubezzz | that was funny | May 14 09:41 |
| cubezzz | he said it took 45 minutes to start up | May 14 09:41 |
| cubezzz | I don't recall XP commercials, but there must have been some | May 14 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | I had Windows 95 on a 486 | May 14 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | it did OK | May 14 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | I liked it a lot better when I junked it and got a Pentium 233 | May 14 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 09:42 |
| cubezzz | I have one customer who stil has one win95 box | May 14 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 was the closest thing Microsoft ever had to a workable GUI | May 14 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | in my opinion | May 14 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | the shell update was nice in some ways, but you have to get Idiot Exploiter for it | May 14 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | so I never bothered | May 14 09:43 |
| cubezzz | well you can still use it :) | May 14 09:44 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't connect it to the internet though | May 14 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will #Amazon Become the Dominant Player in the #Android Ecosystem? - http://rww.to/inyuQm this could be huge | May 14 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3-minute speech limit at EU #copyright hearing - http://bit.ly/kUdoCQ Ms Martin-Prat must know that we will watch her like a hawk #ipred | May 14 09:44 | |
| DaemonFC | true | May 14 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | I used Windows 2000 regularly until around 2007 | May 14 09:44 |
| cubezzz | I'd rather play around on classic hardware like amiga 500 | May 14 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | their shell just keeps getting more piggish | May 14 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even more usable | May 14 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.10 Will Stay With Evolution But Switch To #Thunderbird If It Integrates With The Desktop http://is.gd/bUDyzv less Novell/Ximian | May 14 09:46 | |
| cubezzz | you want spartan, try amigados 1.3 | May 14 09:46 |
| cubezzz | runs on 512K | May 14 09:46 |
| cubezzz | or get yourself a nice Sun or DecStation :) | May 14 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FCC Commish-Turned-Lobbyist Can't See What All The Controversy Is About - http://bit.ly/iiMfW8 which is part of the problem | May 14 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big Blue plus #RedHat plus Private Cloud equals Purple Reign? http://is.gd/1HBIJI Hess now at ZDNet, so less Microsoft/Apple bias. #linux | May 14 09:47 | |
| DaemonFC | I liked Windows 2000's UI | May 14 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | XP with Classic theme and all the webby shit turned off was almost tolerable | May 14 09:48 |
| cubezzz | still kind of a pig though | May 14 09:48 |
| sebsebseb | webby stuff? | May 14 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, like the HTML control panel | May 14 09:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | May 14 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | and the HTML sidebars with hyperlinks | May 14 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | in Explorer | May 14 09:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don’t like change? Create Gnome 2.32 panel with #Gnome shell extensions http://is.gd/lujlLx http://is.gd/l9CmJm choice is grand | May 14 09:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I ended up using XP with the Watercolor theme | May 14 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | the one it had while it was in beta | May 14 09:49 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, sounds like you're still kind of stuck on doze | May 14 09:49 |
| cubezzz | lots of other stuff to try | May 14 09:50 |
| cubezzz | MikeOS, BareMetal | May 14 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Q&A with Jeff Hoogland, lead developer of #BodhiLinux http://is.gd/fdErAG #CrunchBang #interview with Darth Wound http://is.gd/fdErAG | May 14 09:52 | |
| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?52175-AMD-s-Hiring-Open-Source-Graphics-Developers-Still&p=207627#post207627 | May 14 09:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Comcast confused, thinks someone has appointed it "Internet Police" http://is.gd/56S7MS avoid Comcast, they're #corrupt for other reasons | May 14 09:56 | |
| DaemonFC | http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Malicious_Linux_Commands | May 14 09:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Firefox 4's share shot up 11% the first day after Mozilla started offering users the upgrade last week, and climbed 30% in four days." ~IDG | May 14 10:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RIP Eucalyptus. #Ubuntu Standardizes on #OpenStack http://is.gd/qj8jYG RIP?! *Really*? Not inaccurate headline? | May 14 10:06 | |
| DaemonFC | Firefox has the same problem IE does | May 14 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | they can say their new version is growing because it's eating up the old version | May 14 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | not because their actual number of users is increasing | May 14 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox hasn't been growing for a while now, because people are leaving IE and Firefox for Chrome | May 14 10:09 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: schestowitz http://identi.ca/conversation/71086201 | May 14 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Paul E. Mc Kenney: Linaro Developers Summit: Even More #ARM #Linux Consolidation http://bit.ly/mpbVtz #kernel | May 14 10:09 | |
| DaemonFC | Chrome never asks the user if they want to upgrade, they just start it one day and it's the new version | May 14 10:10 |
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| DaemonFC | that's the only way to get these idiots to upgrade their software | May 14 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise you'd still have people using Chrome 4 or 5 | May 14 10:10 |
| schestowitz | [09:20] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: someone dented about how http://ubuntu.com is mentioning Skype at the moment on the homepage | May 14 10:11 |
| schestowitz | LOL | May 14 10:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep and here is the convo that I have now replied to twice :) http://identi.ca/conversation/71086201 | May 14 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | It works with Microsoft Skype | May 14 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG MUST HAVE | May 14 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 10:12 |
| sebsebseb | well pretty sure the installer is still saying that it's compatible with Skype | May 14 10:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://www.ubuntu.com/ advertises Microsoft products in the front page: Skype a "favourite app" | May 14 10:12 | |
| sebsebseb | and probably will for 11.10 as well | May 14 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | Have they gotten rid of all the references to "Linux" from their site yet? | May 14 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | or have they missed one? | May 14 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yep that was done quite a long while ago apparnetly | May 14 10:14 |
| sebsebseb | or uhmm rmost of the references to it | May 14 10:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @carlopiana Me riding my bike http://is.gd/jBgyey. Great pic by http://fotomoto.it << Don't mess with Carlo! He has freedom-fu | May 14 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @graziano New iMacs even more #defectivebydesign won't allow you to replace your hd by yourself! !dbd http://ur1.ca/46axf EPIC FAIL ! ... | May 14 10:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Why #Innovation Is Under Attack - http://bit.ly/inywMx good summary #intellectualmonopolies | May 14 10:16 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/open-source | May 14 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's ZOMG OPEN SOURCE!!! | May 14 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 14 10:16 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah well they really are open source like | May 14 10:17 |
| sebsebseb | you know the ones who just use the kind of software, because it's a good development model really | May 14 10:17 |
| sebsebseb | not, because of the moral advantages that are gained, like the Free Software Foundation you know | May 14 10:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Would you buy a car if you werent _allowed_ to and couldnt change tyres by yourself ? #cantreplaceharddisksonthenewimac | May 14 10:17 | |
| sebsebseb | of course they may mention moral advantages that are gained, but the open source people, will still well advertise propritary software at times even, like Ubuntu is doing | May 14 10:17 |
| sebsebseb | ? | May 14 10:18 |
| sebsebseb | know what I mean? | May 14 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu doesn't care about free software | May 14 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | they care about keeping Unity and Indicators proprietary like they are now | May 14 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | and they can keep them | May 14 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | May 14 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | I thank them for making it impossible for anyone else to actually use them | May 14 10:19 |
| schestowitz | `http://identi.ca/notice/73482479 | May 14 10:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/73482194 | May 14 10:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uh yeah, but I linked you to the context | May 14 10:20 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the URL bot is gone by the way. well it re joins as I type that | May 14 10:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you are in the business of testing new algorithms, patents make you a violator. How does that encourage research? | May 14 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | `http://identi.ca/notice/73482479 | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <schestowitz> `http://identi.ca/notice/73482479 | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <schestowitz> http://identi.ca/notice/73482194 | May 14 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:04:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @iurie Since !Ubuntu 10.10 they have proprietary software for sale in the software centre, and I think a lot of their users would buy it! | May 14 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:04:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @iurie Since !Ubuntu 10.10 they have proprietary software for sale in the software centre, and I think a lot of their users would buy it! | May 14 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 08:59:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @iurie Yeah well they want the !Ubuntu product to go mainstream. Pretty sure I have seen #Skype being advertised in the installer! | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | The question is this | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft or not.. | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Why did they ever advertise proprietary? | May 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | They could list ekiga | May 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | or linphone or whatever | May 14 10:24 |
| sebsebseb | is Ekiga suitable for the average user? uhmm probably not really | May 14 10:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] one of the @hackerspacepl teams churned out a beta already. with sound. in pure JS. http://now.hackerspace.pl #awesome #swwaw | May 14 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Justmyspace/status/69329167581327360 | May 14 10:24 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Justmyspace: @schestowitz @haloefekti as far as comcast and piratebay http://t.co/gHQsjby | May 14 10:24 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows User: "What the fuck is Ekiga? I want SKYPE!!!! and Chrome!!! and iTunes, doyou have that?" | May 14 10:24 |
| sebsebseb | I mean got to know how to use Ekiga for it to be useful | May 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe network effect comes into effect | May 14 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | "LULZ, NO ITUNES< ZOMG THIS SUCKS!!!!" | May 14 10:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] had some minor difficulties with the network, seems everything works AOK now. #swwaw | May 14 10:26 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I have had Ekiga open before, and then been like, uhmm how would this be used? | May 14 10:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving Back: #Lubuntu 64bit now Available http://is.gd/ClC6BU #peppermint #ubuntu #debian #gnu #linux | May 14 10:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Giving Back: Lubuntu 64bit now Available | Peppermint | Linux OS .::. Size~: 13.88 KB | May 14 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Ekiga isn't well designed | May 14 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | from a user interface pov | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what's your account/address? | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | I'll add you | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: partly true | May 14 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no not set up with any of this, also by the way that headset I got, well the microphone is broken it seems | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | address management | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | skype ain't good, either | May 14 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | didn't say it was | May 14 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so probably going to have to buy one, at least that way it should be working :) since brand new. this was one someone sent me, and well the headphones only work | May 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | actually, it's rubbish | May 14 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | if that sounded like an endorsement of Skype, I apologize :) | May 14 10:28 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: tried it out on this computer, and the other computer in Windows even, and yep won't record | May 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | all skype has is users | May 14 10:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Inside the Linux Powered #Xirrus Wi-Fi http://is.gd/jVPm2W #linux embedded in everything... | May 14 10:29 | |
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| schestowitz | sound quality is not like some major INNOVA~1 | May 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I see.. | May 14 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ekiga has a horrible user interface, Skype has a lot of bugs that make it functionally useless, and it's proprietary | May 14 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I wonder if he knew or forgot that the microphone was broke hmm | May 14 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | there needs to be better free VOIP software | May 14 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | bad and worse aren't good choices | May 14 10:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: apparently microphones don't always work that well with Linux as well, well some guy told me on IRC how he had issues with them hmm | May 14 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aldebaran #Robotics To Open Source Code of Nao Robot - http://bit.ly/m1nfJD wise move if they want greater uptake #opensource | May 14 10:31 | |
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| cubezzz | suggestion: | May 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I tried using Skype on Linux back when I used Mandriva | May 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | I gave up on it | May 14 10:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I think there may be some Skype VIOP phone I could use, but well yeah better to use a headset it seems really | May 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way to make Skype work right with Pulseaudio | May 14 10:31 |
| cubezzz | have a discusion where people can email the url of there points, and the moderator makes a show out of it | May 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | and without that, it won't detect my microphone | May 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | FUN | May 14 10:31 |
| schestowitz | worked with pulseaudio in mand 2008.1 | May 14 10:32 |
| cubezzz | that way you don't need ekiga | May 14 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | not for me it didn't | May 14 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | Skype is some shitty shit | May 14 10:32 |
| schestowitz | S***e | May 14 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Now it becomes | May 14 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MariaDB 5.2.6 released http://is.gd/mWZPgu What's with all the Windows stuff? | May 14 10:32 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft S***e | May 14 10:32 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: what was that? | May 14 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Skype | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | the word | May 14 10:33 |
| schestowitz | What did you think? | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | I mean | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | you put stars in it | May 14 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Humour | May 14 10:33 |
| cubezzz | Special High Intensity Training | May 14 10:33 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah on the Skype subject | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | I got something good to link to | May 14 10:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: SHIT? | May 14 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | well two something good's from Identica | May 14 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | Skype is some sh*tty fscking sh*t | May 14 10:33 |
| cubezzz | hey, I'm logging this sh*t | May 14 10:34 |
| cubezzz | no swearing | May 14 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | What the hell is this crap and how do I get rid of it? | May 14 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | Skype and Unity | May 14 10:34 |
| cubezzz | all the microsofties will think we are all potty mouths | May 14 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | Skype and Unity love DaemonFC | May 14 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've used Ekiga before | May 14 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | the price of cell phones has gone down a lot | May 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/ubuntu-adopts-lightdm-login-screens-to-get-more-exciting-20110512/ | May 14 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu adopts LightDM, login screens to get more exciting – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 59.1 KB | May 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu adopts LightDM, login screens to get more exciting | May 14 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | so I just got one of those | May 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Jono also learned to say "exciting" like Mark does | May 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Exciting=different | May 14 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T had some really EXCITING landline offers for me when I called trying to get dry loop DSL | May 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: and mpeg-la licences | May 14 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | by EXCITING, I mean "Why would I ever need that?" | May 14 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | just like when jono says "exciting" about something | May 14 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | I think LightDM is interesting, and would be a good idea loads of distro's using it I guess, well unless it's true about how | May 14 10:36 |
| sebsebseb | the greeter | May 14 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | or Shuttleworth | May 14 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | needs Canonical COpyright Assignment | May 14 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | well I took part in two LightDM UDS sessions and in the last one, something about greeter maybe needing copyright assginemnt, but I wasn't really sure what things were about either | May 14 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah hmm | May 14 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you know if I spend just $20 more on my AT&T bill, bill collectors and telemarketers can have yet another way to harass me? | May 14 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | well as long as nothing for LightDM needs their copyright assignment, it should be a pretty good thing really :) | May 14 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG WHERE DO I SIGN!?!? | May 14 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | remotely took part in some UDS sessions this week yep, listen to the audio, and a bit of IRC text and yeah | May 14 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | I give businesses my disposable cell number | May 14 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | then if I have bill collectors calling me a lot, I just get a new number | May 14 10:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://identi.ca/conversation/71091020#notice-73483983 | May 14 10:39 |
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| DaemonFC | it's not like switching numbers costs anything | May 14 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/notice/73483983 | May 14 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:35:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Hmm as you know you got that !Ubuntu #Skype info from me :)! http://identi.ca/conversation/71086201 | May 14 10:39 |
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| DaemonFC | let your balance run out and buy a new activation card | May 14 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's like dealing with the Borg, rotating phaser modulations and all that | May 14 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | I hate bill collectors, not because they're some guy doing a job. I get that. But there's too many of them that threaten you with illegal actions to scare you into paying them. | May 14 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | and they don't stop calling once it's off your credit report and the statute of limitations is up either | May 14 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | I still get credit card collection calls over things that happened 9 years ago | May 14 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DaemonFC cubezzz So I was just now typing about how I had interesting Skype stuff to share from identica well yep here http://identi.ca/conversation/70919780 and here http://identi.ca/conversation/70920407 | May 14 10:42 |
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| DaemonFC | (they have 7 years and then it falls off your report and they can't sue you) | May 14 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully that first one is more than just Skype stuff, but yep a good one :) | May 14 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | agencies like to buy this junk debt for pennies on the dollar than scare people into paying up | May 14 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | then you get people with thick terrorist accents calling you about the Visa you were delinquent on when you were a teenager | May 14 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | grr | May 14 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, You should be a junk debt collector, I'm sure it's fun | May 14 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | You get to sit around and harass people and make idle threats, and it pays good money | May 14 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | wait, I should be one! | May 14 10:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] yo dawg I herd you liek #swwaw but please don't watch stream from #swwaw at #swwaw. the tubes, them get clogged. ;) #xzibit | May 14 10:46 | |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: that convo I linked to just now that got quite a lot of replies, well yeah that I found rather fun :) | May 14 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Childhood #leukaemia linked to mosquito bites - http://bit.ly/iicjCd mosquitoes can spread #cancer??? | May 14 10:47 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73483983 | May 14 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:35:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Hmm as you know you got that !Ubuntu #Skype info from me :)! http://identi.ca/conversation/71086201 | May 14 10:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thoughts on Learning Emacs - http://bit.ly/iygwJP a paean to Richard Stallman's first great creation (v @limbclock) | May 14 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tech Comics: "Try It the Social Way" [IMG] http://is.gd/TrFqGc #datamining #privacy | May 14 10:49 | |
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| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/notice/73483780 | May 14 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Iurie Nistor (iurie)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:30:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @sebsebseb: That's why I'll always recommend !Trisquel which is really committed to freedom. | May 14 10:49 |
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| sebsebseb | http://identi.ca/notice/73483780 | May 14 10:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Iurie Nistor (iurie)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 09:30:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @sebsebseb: That's why I'll always recommend !Trisquel which is really committed to freedom. | May 14 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Childhood #leukaemia linked to mosquito bites - http://bit.ly/iicjCd mosquitoes can spread #cancer ??? | May 14 10:51 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: using propritary software can make using a computer easier | May 14 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | much easier | May 14 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | for what somenoe may want to do | May 14 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | come to think of it it's like a beaked bean can, convience food | May 14 10:52 |
| sebsebseb | conveince software? | May 14 10:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody s/mosquitoes/contact/ | May 14 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody and Microsoft's CEO would say "GPL" too | May 14 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @mcepl Skype + Microsoft == Sky + .Net == Skynet ??? (shamelessly stolen from #twit IRC chat). | May 14 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis #WTF !GFW Have difficulty to access any website outside !China. | May 14 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @maslett What British people say, what they mean, & what others hear http://bit.ly/is8j4F Useful for deciphering my blog posts >>& mine | May 14 10:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #\GIMP Tutorial: Day for Night http://is.gd/W6RxiR a look at powerful software running on children's operating system | May 14 11:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type | May 14 11:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: CacheMe – Geocaching with MeeGo http://mge.bz/aW #Linux #Windows #Symbian^3 #Maemo5 #MeeGo | May 14 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: QML Metaballs – Yes you heard me right ! http://mge.bz/aX #Qt #QtQuick #OpenGL #Shader #Developer | May 14 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Sociality – Facebook client in Qt http://mge.bz/aY #Maemo #Nokia #N900 #MeeGo #Developer | May 14 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Qt ,Maemo and some other stuff: Audiobook Reader for N900 using QML and Phonon : http://bit.ly/mLV9A8 | May 14 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Come to "Intel AppUp Developer Program Meetup Mixer" Monday, May 23 from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm. Bo... http://fb.me/VR1PyxBQ | May 14 11:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Simple Checklist for shopping lists for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7248 | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: SwitchBoard for the Nokia N900 - virtual keyboard for fast SMS typing: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7249 | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Expense Log - simple tool for the Nokia N900 to register expenses: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7250 #N900 #Maemo | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Ball Game for the N900 - put red ball to a hole: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7251 #N900 #Maemo | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: YTube for the Nokia N900 - modified and perfected cuteTube YouTube client: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7252 #N900 #Maemo | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: RT @bobduffy: The MeeGo Factory :-) http://youtu.be/b-awfmH646s #appup | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: ClipMan – Clipboard Manager – Maemo http://mge.bz/aZ #Nokia #N900 #Maemo #Developer #Application | May 14 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Meegathon Competition at MeeGo Summit Finland http://mge.bz/b0 #MeeGo #Hack-a-thon #Developer #Video #Intel #MeeGoFI | May 14 11:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: try going on the http://identi.ca website got problems loading it up as well? | May 14 11:10 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=14612 | May 14 11:11 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, OMGMONO seems to be pushing MS Skype | May 14 11:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway it's loaded up | May 14 11:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I told tried to get the guy who runs that site to advertise the episode we had quite recently with Jono in it, but something tells me even though he was like sure, something tells me he won't do it | May 14 11:12 |
| sebsebseb | the Techbytes episode,above | May 14 11:13 |
| sebsebseb | well it would have been a good episode for loads of Ubuntu fan boys to listen to | May 14 11:13 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | May 14 11:16 | |
| oiaohm | Boy ubuntu guys like jumping. | May 14 11:17 |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Ubuntu gys like jumping ? | May 14 11:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I would like to thank all the people that set-up wifi hotspots at #swwaw... at the very channel that the official wifi was. #interference ;) | May 14 11:17 | |
| oiaohm | That one about Skype on non-Microsoft plaforms. | May 14 11:17 |
| oiaohm | MS says the same thing about MS Office. | May 14 11:17 |
| sebsebseb | you mean the convo I linked to? | May 14 11:18 |
| oiaohm | No DaemonFC linked to. | May 14 11:18 |
| sebsebseb | oh | May 14 11:18 |
| sebsebseb | ah yes that omgubuntu link | May 14 11:18 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: anyway I might actsauly use Ubuntu for quite a bit longer | May 14 11:19 |
| sebsebseb | not sure how long | May 14 11:19 |
| sebsebseb | on it again though | May 14 11:19 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: also they have actsauly done something to the Ubuntu Classic Desktop which I like! | May 14 11:20 |
| sebsebseb | they sorted something out that they messed up | May 14 11:20 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: so yeah the patches on the top right, the menu and sound menu and what not, and if shut down or log out from the top right, the lame do you really want to messages, but shut down and log out is also back in the system menu :) and if doing it from there get the proper shut down | May 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | the auto shut down after a minute feature :) | May 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | that really got at me when it got removed before for the stuff on the top right | May 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | and how coudn't just have both as well | May 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: so at least the last version of Ubuntu to have Gnome 2, has that sorted out :) | May 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | when it's been messed up since 10.04 I guess it was | May 14 11:22 |
| sebsebseb | I used to tell people about this quite a bit, and whine and yeah, so yeah I am rather happy it got sorted out :) | May 14 11:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Oh Teh Ironing! Microsoft Poland doing a presentation - on !Linux. I rofl'd. but sshhh, there'll be a write-up on tht later, promise. ;) | May 14 11:22 | |
| *sebsebseb is even getting used to Gnome 2 patches on the top right, such as the envelope being high lighted on a message and such, but can easilly dump those later on again :) | May 14 11:23 | |
| DaemonFC | how come both adblock plugins for Chrome say they block all ads | May 14 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | then I still see them appear and get hidden | May 14 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:23 |
| sebsebseb | envelope gets high lighted if I get high lighted on IRC for example, and sometimes for other stuff as well | May 14 11:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/5/2011: The New Commodore 64 Runs Linux, 20 Years of Linux Kernel Celebrated http://is.gd/EHUxPo !techrights | May 14 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 14/5/2011: The New Commodore 64 Runs Linux, 20 Years of Linux Kernel Celebrated http://is.gd/EHUxPo #techrights | May 14 11:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | quit screwing around with Unity and use a decent desktop environment already | May 14 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | it took me all of maybe 3-4 hours for Unity to get past my bullshit threshold and then I switched back to KDE | May 14 11:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz Links 14/5/2011: The New Commodore 64 Runs Linux, 20 Years of Linux Kernel Celebrated http://is.gd/EHUxPo !techrights | May 14 11:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz pointed out that KDE 4 was rough | May 14 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | but I think Unity probably falls under "You can't fix stupid" | May 14 11:27 |
| schestowitz | it's not rough | May 14 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | the 4.0 release I meant | May 14 11:28 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73485147 | May 14 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 10:01:52 UTC - Identi.ca: #\GIMP Tutorial: Day for Night http://is.gd/W6RxiR a look at powerful software running on children's operating system | May 14 11:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | May 14 11:28 |
| schestowitz | and some successors too | May 14 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type | May 14 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's a difference between new and rough around the edges and stupid design that is never going anywhere | May 14 11:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] whoa. in 5mins all the hotsposts are gone. thanks! :) #swwaw | May 14 11:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Unity has both, what an ironic name for something that was cobbled together from several different projects and integrated poorly by Canonical | May 14 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 11:29 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/73479989 | May 14 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 14-May-11 08:14:02 UTC - Identi.ca: Celebrating 20 Years of #Linux http://is.gd/WYCQgo "Everything started in 1983, as the GNU Project, engineered by Richard Stallman." !gnu | May 14 11:31 |
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| MinceR | so, which car makers are crippling their products with m$ software now? | May 14 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ford is | May 14 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | has been for a while | May 14 11:31 |
| MinceR | iirc BMW did too | May 14 11:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/69347668526239746+ | May 14 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | May 14 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I went to check out a new Focus and the salesman said it had Microsoft Sync | May 14 11:32 |
| MinceR | toyota has also announced it | May 14 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Microsoft? You do want me to buy this right?" | May 14 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's worth more to me without the Microsoft stuff | May 14 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | how much to get rid of it? :D | May 14 11:33 |
| MinceR | they don't care | May 14 11:33 |
| MinceR | they decided that they'll make cars that endanger their drivers, passengers and others even more than before | May 14 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | oh this will be fun when you run into Microsoft quality in your integrated car GPS system | May 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | and it starts not wanting to work if the moon is in the wrong phase | May 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | or on leap years | May 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | or on certain Tuesdays | May 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:34 |
| MinceR | it gets better | May 14 11:34 |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDrive | May 14 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | May 14 11:34 |
| MinceR | climate, audio, communication (whatever that is) | May 14 11:35 |
| MinceR | so you | May 14 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | You further agree not to sue Ford or Microsoft if the car locks you in and sets the heater to 150 degrees | May 14 11:35 |
| MinceR | so you'll be cooked or frozen and distracted by random loud noise while you try to drive | May 14 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | just a for instance :) | May 14 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | it does that on some leap years you knw | May 14 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 14 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | You might want to ask your friends with non-Ford cars to drive you around on New Years Eve | May 14 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | just to be safe | May 14 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | The designated driver has a Ford? I'll take my chances drunk. | May 14 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:38 |
| schestowitz | some drugs are vital, but others -- those which are not made generic and are luxury --are thrown on people like hormones and antibiotics on cows | May 14 11:38 |
| MinceR | it's ford, so i guess you might want to ask them to drive you around all the time | May 14 11:38 |
| MinceR | fiat is also infected by m$ >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Blue%26Me | May 14 11:38 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess they decided to play Can You Top This, and the first thing anyone said was "The Pinto" | May 14 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | :> | May 14 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently gas tanks make great impact absorbers | May 14 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | who knew? | May 14 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | my car cuts the fuel line if it detects a crash | May 14 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | so I got into a fender bender when I backed into a post | May 14 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | and the car died | May 14 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | and I was glad that I got bored one day and actually read the manual so I knew how to reset that | May 14 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | 5 mile per hour collision, dent detected, cut the fuel line! | May 14 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | disaster averted | May 14 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:47 |
| MinceR | :> | May 14 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | Those guys at Ford don't take any chances that you might actually get away from that without anyone seeing | May 14 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickspencer3 | May 14 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Engineering Director, Ubuntu | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Canonical Ltd. | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Lead Program Manager | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he'll become CTO? | May 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Earlham College | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | BA, Philosophy | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | 1986 – 1990 | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | George Mason University | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | M.A., Human Factors Engineering | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | " | May 14 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | User Experience Manager at Microsoft > Engineering Director, Ubuntu | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Don't they learn programming? | May 14 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | that explains Unity | May 14 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | thanks schestowitz | May 14 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | at m$? what for? | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | "Lead program management team for tablet developer platform until March 2007, and then a new team creating innovative, but still semi-secret, platforms. " | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR:you know, actual products | May 14 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Not just marketing | May 14 11:51 |
| schestowitz | "we blah b;ah... R&D... billions.. innovation" | May 14 11:51 |
| MinceR | that's not their style | May 14 11:51 |
| MinceR | unless of course they've managed to steal a product from someone else | May 14 11:51 |
| MinceR | like CP/M-86 | May 14 11:51 |
| schestowitz | or bought one | May 14 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They even stole a few UI features from BeOS for Windows XP | May 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | or many | May 14 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | shameless | May 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing." | May 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: which ones? | May 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htm | May 14 11:52 |
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| DaemonFC | window tabbing was one | May 14 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | I never saw that before BeOS | May 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | xp had no window tabbing | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | I mean grouping | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:53 |
| MinceR | unless you mean the craptastic "one button for multiple windows" on the taskbar | May 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Unity is a disaster based on reviews I read | May 14 11:53 |
| MinceR | i didn't know beos did that | May 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Almost nobody like it | May 14 11:53 |
| *schestowitz wonders if jono became a close KDE user | May 14 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | *closet | May 14 11:53 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: no systray, global menu -- need i say more? :> | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | I use Unity, dawg | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's totally rockin', yo | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | EXCITING! | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | It's like.. totally Human Factors Engineering ! | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Just misses the b0ng factor for now | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | !google canonicla rich spencer bing toolbar | May 14 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ubuntu Firefox shuns Google for Yahoo! search • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/ubuntiu_bags_google_for_yahoo_search/ | May 14 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Why has Bing taken over my browser? - Worldnews.com | http://article.wn.com/view/2011/04/17/Why_has_Bing_taken_over_my_browser/ | May 14 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Is Ubuntu Cheating Mozilla with Yahoo Search Deal? - InternetNews ... | http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/01/is-ubuntu-cheating-mozilla-wit.html | May 14 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Yahoo! Becomes Default Search In Ubuntu 10.04 | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/yahoo-becomes-default-search-in-ubuntu-10-04/ | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | *rick | May 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | It was him who made this accouncement | May 14 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMGBING!!!! | May 14 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | DEVELOPERS! | May 14 11:55 |
| schestowitz | In other news, scientists have discovered some Bartz brain cells that are stll functional | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | so far i've found these: | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | BMWhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/IDrive | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | Fiathttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Blue%26Me | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | Fordhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ford_Sync | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | Kiahttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Kia_UVO | May 14 11:55 |
| MinceR | Toyotahttps://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/apr11/04-06toyotapr.mspx | May 14 11:55 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: can you say driver crashes? | May 14 11:56 |
| MinceR | :> | May 14 11:56 |
| schestowitz | The weather has gotten nicer, I think I'll just put my posts on my palm and work on them outside | May 14 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/new-macbook-pros-to-be-released-for-steve-jobs-birthday | May 14 11:57 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR needs one | May 14 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | he thinks Firewire is the future | May 14 11:57 |
| MinceR | i thought crApple got rid of IEEE1394 already | May 14 11:58 |
| MinceR | they certainly don't mention it here | May 14 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | meh | May 14 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | I have a firewire port | May 14 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why | May 14 11:58 |
| MinceR | so do i | May 14 11:59 |
| MinceR | but peripherals for it are rare and expensive | May 14 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ0Mw | May 14 12:00 |
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| MinceR | they're going to add DRM to it? | May 14 12:00 |
| MinceR | and they'll use it to remotely kill software from your system? | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | probably | May 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're coming up with a version for Kubuntu | May 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | to replace KPackageKit | May 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | after I thought that there would finally be some standardization | May 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | this will be the third time since I've used Kubuntu that they changed package managers | May 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | and this time they're changing from one that works well and is distribution neutral to another crap store | May 14 12:02 |
| MinceR | synaptic was better than all of them | May 14 12:03 |
| oiaohm | http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/ArchitectureNotes DaemonFC and MinceR | May 14 12:11 |
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| oiaohm | The appstore process is part of AppStream | May 14 12:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @kletskous ♺ @Dagtaak: @Kletskous KPN, DPI en Grote Broer wordt Enge Broer, , Dagtaak vandaag: http://iturl.nl/snl7X | May 14 12:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to #Groklaw http://is.gd/4i5p40 Cordial regards to Pamela Jones and her site Groklaw, which retires after this weekend | May 14 12:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: Thanks to #Groklaw http://is.gd/4i5p40 Cordial regards to Pamela Jones & her site Groklaw, which retires after this weekend | May 14 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Jack Schofield Acusado de "Falta de Profesionalismo" por Demonizar a los Escépticos de Mono http://is.gd/4QIugR #mono #microsoft #swpats | May 14 12:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] back to hacking around, startuping, music (Roger Subirana currently; !cc). websites already up shown on the screens. #swwaw | May 14 12:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh, and Warsaw Hackerspace (@hackerspacepl) bred it's first hex-glider! http://now.hackerspace.pl/beta/ :) #swwaw | May 14 12:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Iran to blind criminal with acid in 'eye for an eye' justice http://is.gd/BZhkfI | May 14 12:47 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/WalterAguilarVi/statuses/69365279611817984 | May 14 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @WalterAguilarVi: Eulogy for Novell | Techrights http://bit.ly/lYX0Z4 | May 14 12:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: Thanks to #Groklaw http://is.gd/4i5p40 Cordial regards to Pamela Jones and her site Groklaw, which retires after the weekend | May 14 12:49 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/LWNetDev/statuses/69325538145206272 | May 14 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @LWNetDev: Die IE6! http://t.co/mvLJxu5 #ie6 | May 14 12:49 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They were not amused with me when I was an MVP, because my MVP site had a Netscape Now sticker on it | May 14 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | and I mentioned at the bottom I would delete email from IE users complaining that something didn't work | May 14 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | always have hated IE, not just because it's crap, but because it's mandatory crap | May 14 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | something that is becoming more the norm on Ubuntu | May 14 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that there should be hard dependencies on what should be optional extra software that they user might want to remove to reduce clutter | May 14 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is starting to enforce a lot of their crap, like Ubuntu One by making it a hard dependency of ubuntu-desktop | May 14 13:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The World's Safest Browser? BitBox - Tom's Guide - (VM) environment that houses a secured !Debian 6 !Linux OS http://ping.fm/nZ820 | May 14 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu Software Center To Be More Like Steam « well it's a good soundbite anyway http://ping.fm/DGEx4 | May 14 13:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think that's just ethically wrong | May 14 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | if someone wants rid of it enough to take the time to remove it, chances are they're not going to buy anything from it just because you force them to keep it | May 14 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | if anything, it will stay there as an eyesore | May 14 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | but Microsoft opened the floodgates to this kind of an expectation on the part of the user with IE | May 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | oh well, it's there, can't get rid of it, totally useless, wasting space, probably has bugs | May 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | May 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I think the abuse of desktop metapackages and default software selection on Live CDs took away one of the best things about a Linux distribution | May 14 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that the user builds the installation to their own specification, instead of having a system that is immediately overflowing with a concoction of software ranging from self-serving crap to mediocre defaults | May 14 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | the first thing you have to to with ubuntu is figure out how to decontaminate it of all the stupid shit they put in there | May 14 13:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UbuntuHQ • Y PPA Manager: in !Ubuntu Natty http://ping.fm/84QKX | May 14 13:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] finally figured out how to set my weibo account to the correct url: http://weibo.com/gbraad | May 14 13:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Stallman is wrong about Kindle in one way | May 14 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | you can buy a book anonymously | May 14 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | use a Amazon gift card, they sell them at the grocery store | May 14 13:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: not really. Amazon gift card came after Stallman first complaint. | May 14 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Time can change things. | May 14 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | he's right about the other complaints though | May 14 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | the DRM making it impossible to sell, lend, or give away your books | May 14 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | and the remote deletion | May 14 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't buy ebooks for the same reason I never bought anything on itunes or similar music stores | May 14 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | DRM | May 14 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | same problem as Kindle and friends bring to books | May 14 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | DRM made it possible to amass an expensive collection of music that could stop working at any point and leave you with no recourse | May 14 13:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: check the date that RMS first wrote that stuff. | May 14 13:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: then check when the gift cards came into existance. | May 14 13:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ie it a timing issue. | May 14 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | meh, that's probably the least damning of the arguments about Kindle anyway | May 14 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | I was just pointing that out | May 14 13:18 |
| oiaohm | Time things do change. | May 14 13:19 |
| oiaohm | but really its sad that only 1 in all this time has been addressed. | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really care if the FBI knows I like to read H.P. Lovecraft | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | hell, I'd tell them if they asked | May 14 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The Imaginary Property cartels don't like physical media | May 14 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At the !BUSC rehearsal weekend in Simmerath. I'm not part of the cast so I can just relax and watch. :) | May 14 13:21 | |
| DaemonFC | because you can sell them or give them away | May 14 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | and it eats into their bottom line | May 14 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | with ebooks and DRM , anyone who wants a copy has to buy one, at list price | May 14 13:21 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: but wouldn't you prefer the FBI to have probable cause before they asked? | May 14 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | sure | May 14 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | they can give me a good reason they need to know | May 14 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | like, kittens will die, and knowing my reading habits are the only way they can save said kittens | May 14 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Current problem with most eletronic they don't have to have grounds. | May 14 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: Overview of #MeeGo ARM driver support situation http://is.gd/d98O2S #maemo | May 14 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Peter Tatchell on Bradley Manning: "gay hero" http://ur1.ca/46cqn Add another relation w/ sexuality. SA http://is.gd/JKnIVk !wikileaks !GLBT | May 14 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Myk and Jorge from Mozilla visit !Beijing, !China for #MDC2011 via @rachelzhang1 http://weibo.com/1838919073/eA9cUe0g1QJ http://is.gd/qw7Ssl | May 14 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] guys, how's the wifi doing on #swwaw? anybody knows of any problems right now? you know where to find me - but no lynching please ;) | May 14 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @paulrouget Duckduckgo now provides a Jabber service! http://bit.ly/jLwAsG | May 14 13:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, You wouldn't know if ffmpeg can decode Crapple Lossless? :) | May 14 13:54 |
| MinceR | dunno | May 14 13:55 |
| MinceR | i don't have any crApple lossless files | May 14 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | it can decode WMA Pro | May 14 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | now MinceR can play all his WMA Pro files | May 14 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | best format ever | May 14 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 13:59 |
| MinceR | i don't think i have any of that either | May 14 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | crapple lossless has been supported for decoding since ffmpeg 0.5 | May 14 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | yay | May 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Is that not the DRM free but just watermarked files you have to pay extra for. | May 14 14:01 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=88183 | May 14 14:06 |
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| DaemonFC | "Looks suspiciously like the 3GPP reference code from Coding Technologies, but with the copyright notice of another company plastered on it." | May 14 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | lol | May 14 14:06 |
| xjasonx | so I did some digging and found out why libmono is shipped in honeycomb | May 14 14:06 |
| xjasonx | apparently it's there for video games | May 14 14:07 |
| xjasonx | that are made with something called unity? | May 14 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | Winamp uses the Coding Technologies 3dpp reference code as its AAC encoder | May 14 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | xjasonx, Unity3d | May 14 14:07 |
| xjasonx | ok, so it's known? | May 14 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28game_engine%29 | May 14 14:08 |
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| DaemonFC | xjasonx, It's a game engine that uses Mono as the scripting engine | May 14 14:08 |
| xjasonx | ah, ok | May 14 14:08 |
| xjasonx | it all makes sense now I guess | May 14 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | they developed their own CLR language called UnityScript | May 14 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | but you can use any .Net language for scripts | May 14 14:09 |
| xjasonx | well, in any case, that's why mono is part of honeycomb | May 14 14:10 |
| xjasonx | 3.1 | May 14 14:10 |
| xjasonx | and 3.0.1 | May 14 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | you can license their engine for $400 if you want to make a game for Android | May 14 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | and the "Pro" version of the engine is $1,500 | May 14 14:11 |
| xjasonx | I guess this means mono is there to stay on android | May 14 14:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Working on switching to zsh from bash, time for a change, having fun configuring my .zshrc. !linux | May 14 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #DuckDuckGo now offers a public !Jabber / !XMPP bot. Just add im@ddg.gg to your account. | May 14 14:12 | |
| xjasonx | it's also going to be on chromeos | May 14 14:12 |
| xjasonx | as part of google's native client extension to chrome | May 14 14:13 |
| xjasonx | I feel like this is all part of hotel california | May 14 14:15 |
| xjasonx | you can stab mono with a steely knife but you just can't kill the beast | May 14 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | Android is using pirated AAC source code | May 14 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://spectralhole.blogspot.com/2010/12/androids-stagefright-aac-encoder-or.html | May 14 14:16 |
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| DaemonFC | Why not throw in Mono? | May 14 14:16 |
| xjasonx | oh well | May 14 14:16 |
| xjasonx | google can learn the hard way I guess | May 14 14:16 |
| xjasonx | that mono is poison | May 14 14:17 |
| xjasonx | a cancer | May 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Google doesn't worry about throwing in code they don't have a license to use | May 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | and calling it open source | May 14 14:17 |
| xjasonx | I take it these unity games run slow as shit? | May 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's just the scripting that's done on Mono | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | and Mono has a pretty fast JIT compiler | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | technically, it's a very good choice | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | but there's the whole patent thing | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | but they may not run into that | May 14 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | it all depends what part of the Mono stack they use | May 14 14:19 |
| xjasonx | I got the impression it didn't matter what parts you used | May 14 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium still has an open issue where they use files with no attached license | May 14 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | so who knows who has the copyrights on those | May 14 14:20 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Particular sections of .net MS has given community promise on. | May 14 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's certain parts of the Mono stack that are more questionable than others | May 14 14:21 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: so would be safe. | May 14 14:21 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Problem is items like winforms and asp.net are not covered by that promise | May 14 14:21 |
| xjasonx | yea, but mono implements those so doesn't that contaminate the whole thing? | May 14 14:22 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Techically you could slice it apart. | May 14 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_Class_Library#Non_standardized_namespaces | May 14 14:23 |
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| oiaohm | xjasonx: We were promised that we would get a pre sliced version but the mono project never provided it. | May 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | there's all the parts that they can probably sue over | May 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | it covers most of the stuff you need to make a usable application with Mono | May 14 14:23 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Basically if the currect actions were done to the mono source base its risk could be better managed. | May 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Forms just wraps the Windows API around .NET | May 14 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's the same thing they did to their "Java" VM that pissed Sun off | May 14 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | and made apps written for it Windows-only | May 14 14:25 |
| xjasonx | so... it's not a bad thing that android and chromeos are shipping mono? | May 14 14:26 |
| xjasonx | presumably they don't use things like windows forms? | May 14 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | depends on what parts they use | May 14 14:26 |
| oiaohm | android does not ship mono | May 14 14:27 |
| oiaohm | neither does chromeos | May 14 14:27 |
| xjasonx | it is in 3.0.1 update on my xoom | May 14 14:27 |
| xjasonx | and it is in NaCL | May 14 14:27 |
| oiaohm | No NaCL is not mono. | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | NaCL is something else. | May 14 14:28 |
| xjasonx | it *uses* mono | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | No it does not use mono | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | NaCL uses llvm | May 14 14:28 |
| xjasonx | see the mono mailing lists | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Then someone is badly wrong. | May 14 14:28 |
| xjasonx | google guys providing patches to mono for use in NaCL | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | No | May 14 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Read the patches. | May 14 14:29 |
| oiaohm | Google guys provide a way for mono to build into NaCL binaries. | May 14 14:29 |
| oiaohm | But legally all patent risks of mono will land on the head of the developer using it with NaCL. | May 14 14:29 |
| xjasonx | oh, I see | May 14 14:30 |
| oiaohm | http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/ | May 14 14:30 |
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| oiaohm | Chromeos and Android will not be shiping with a mono runtime. | May 14 14:31 |
| xjasonx | thanks for the explanation | May 14 14:31 |
| oiaohm | The developers using mono with NaCL will be the ones shipping the runtime. | May 14 14:31 |
| xjasonx | so is it motorala that added libmono.so to android? | May 14 14:31 |
| xjasonx | motorola | May 14 14:31 |
| oiaohm | I have not seen libmono.so in android at all. | May 14 14:32 |
| xjasonx | have you checked xoom w/ 3.0.1? | May 14 14:32 |
| oiaohm | Its not part of the android api. | May 14 14:32 |
| xjasonx | because it is there | May 14 14:32 |
| oiaohm | Third party added. | May 14 14:32 |
| oiaohm | Its not a formal part. | May 14 14:32 |
| xjasonx | ok | May 14 14:33 |
| oiaohm | Maybe some app motorola uses was build with mono. | May 14 14:33 |
| oiaohm | But its not a native platform library of android. | May 14 14:33 |
| xjasonx | ok | May 14 14:34 |
| oiaohm | Yep mono guys over playing there hand. | May 14 14:34 |
| xjasonx | luckily they are all jobless now :) | May 14 14:36 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: google way leaves the legal libibalyt in the developer hands who is using mono. | May 14 14:37 |
| xjasonx | yea, thanks for explanation | May 14 14:37 |
| oiaohm | Really I would not want to be those developers if MS decides they want payment. | May 14 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really care about Mono, it will be funny when Microsoft starts threatening to sue over it | May 14 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | the only distribution using it that has any money to sue over, and in a jurisdiction that recognizes patents, seems to be OpenSuse | May 14 14:38 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Really the NaCL stuff and other stuff shows how big of liers the mono groups are. | May 14 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | and Novell is liable for anything they do anyway | May 14 14:39 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Like ipad and iphone applications development with mono the legal liablity also lands with the developers. | May 14 14:39 |
| oiaohm | you would think how the liablity lands that the people using mono would be interested in having it all sorted. | May 14 14:40 |
| oiaohm | But trying to get answers to the legal side you get branded a mono hater so you don't have to be listerned to. | May 14 14:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !Identiverse | May 14 14:42 | |
| xjasonx | what do you think mono guys are going to do now? | May 14 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | go to Disneyland | May 14 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | sorry, too easy :) | May 14 14:43 |
| oiaohm | Really I think the ones that are left are in for a hard fight for there jobs. | May 14 14:43 |
| xjasonx | ones who are left? | May 14 14:43 |
| xjasonx | I thought they were all fired? | May 14 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | no, they still have a Microsoft MVP | May 14 14:43 |
| oiaohm | The old Head office of SUSE is being but in charge of all Linux related operations this includes mono. | May 14 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | Miguel de Icaza | May 14 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | and possibly others | May 14 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Remember SUSE traditionally is a KDE distribution not a Gnome one. | May 14 14:44 |
| oiaohm | So this puts Miguel de Icaza in a really bad location. | May 14 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | yes, and it makes a better KDE distribution than a GNOME one | May 14 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | partly because GNOME sucks, and partly because Novel made it suck worse in OpenSuse | May 14 14:45 |
| oiaohm | Not only does the KDE world not particularly like mono. | May 14 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | *Novell | May 14 14:45 |
| oiaohm | But Miguel de Icaza has repeatedly attacked the KDE world. | May 14 14:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I was up too late last night blogging abt today's National Day of Action re: Electoral Reform http://ur1.ca/46ase !cdnpoli !dayofaction2011 | May 14 14:46 | |
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| oiaohm | So you can bet some of the old SUSE bosses who are not back in charge would love todo to him | May 14 14:46 |
| oiaohm | not/now | May 14 14:46 |
| xjasonx | yea | May 14 14:47 |
| oiaohm | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Apr-18.html This is also interesting. | May 14 14:48 |
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| xjasonx | why? | May 14 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Its not taking part in Novell buildings. | May 14 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is having to foot it. | May 14 14:48 |
| xjasonx | oh | May 14 14:49 |
| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - thinking real serious about getting a 5850 or a 6850 | May 14 14:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Fairvote Canada tells me !dayofaction2011 is "a spontaneous event, being organized by students, not by Fair Vote Canada." !cdnpoli | May 14 14:49 | |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Really the question is how long the game of stealth will last. | May 14 14:49 |
| xjasonx | game of stealth? | May 14 14:49 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: MS was paying Novell for use of patents. Novell was developing mono. High interest happend after the patent deal. | May 14 14:50 |
| xjasonx | I still don't get it | May 14 14:51 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: Question is how long before MS has to pony up and take mono as its own. | May 14 14:51 |
| xjasonx | oh, I see | May 14 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Not pay someone else to be their proxy. | May 14 14:51 |
| xjasonx | that would clear up patent issues, tho, right? | May 14 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Attachmate deal was all about MS getting its hands on Novell key patents that could basically cripple MS completely. | May 14 14:52 |
| oiaohm | MS filesystems all of them depend on tech developed by Novell. | May 14 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes MS could not afford someone hostile to them getting Novell. | May 14 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | xjasonx, No. | May 14 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | It solves no patent issues | May 14 14:53 |
| xjasonx | why not? | May 14 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft could issue patent licenses to whoever they want | May 14 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Legally you need a patent grant to use. | May 14 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | and they could relicense Mono the code as proprietary | May 14 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | MIT X11 license | May 14 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Also people have not noticed Mono get less and less GPL code. | May 14 14:53 |
| oiaohm | So making it simpler to convert to pure closed source each step. | May 14 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the less it depends on the GPL, the easier it is to just declare at some point that it's no longer free/open source | May 14 14:54 |
| xjasonx | ok | May 14 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's been obvious for a while that this is where it was going | May 14 14:55 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: end of this year is the interesting bit. | May 14 14:55 |
| xjasonx | why end of this year? | May 14 14:55 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: the Patent agreement between MS and Novell ends at the end of this year. | May 14 14:55 |
| xjasonx | oh, ok | May 14 14:55 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: So MS will be free to attack after that. | May 14 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Very broadly in fact. | May 14 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I always find abide with me very moving. #facupfinal | May 14 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Top of the perch, and that's a fact. !MUFC | May 14 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden Thanks to all the ABUs for your gracious and heartfelt acknowledgements of !United's superiority over the season and a ... | May 14 14:56 | |
| DaemonFC | if Novell really wanted to not be at long term risk of Mono patents, they would have made Microsoft sign a longer deal | May 14 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | or an open ended one | May 14 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Novell deal techically only covers you if you get mono from Novell | May 14 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft wouldn't go for it | May 14 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing they want is someone out there who gets to use those patents forever | May 14 14:57 |
| oiaohm | If you build it yourself or aquire it threw a thrid party or on pass it to a third party you are not covered. | May 14 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | so basically, use Novell's blessed binaries, or you aren't safe | May 14 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Basically its all the legal fine print that make the mono issue so bad. xjasonx | May 14 14:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Stop the Canada-EU free trade talks - Put #climate, jobs before corporate profit! http://is.gd/cz1yHa | May 14 14:59 | |
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| xjasonx | ok | May 14 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Bush signed CAFTA, I was listening to the radio on the way home from work one morning and heard that | May 14 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean Stop the Canada-EU free trade talks - Put #climate, jobs before corporate profit! http://is.gd/cz1yHa | May 14 15:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | figured "there goes another million jobs" | May 14 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 15:01 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: pnacl is the interesting one that is coming. | May 14 15:01 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: basically a version of google NaCL that uses llvm bytecode to be cpu netural. | May 14 15:01 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: NaCL basically threatens to cover everything mono is and more. | May 14 15:02 |
| xjasonx | ah, cool | May 14 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Without the legal trouble. | May 14 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | all having wage and hour, worker safety, and environmental protection laws does is chase jobs out to where they can exploit people to death and dump anything they want wherever they want | May 14 15:02 |
| oiaohm | So why are mono developers happy about NaCl being compadible with them. | May 14 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want Native Client | May 14 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | sounds like a huge security risk | May 14 15:03 |
| xjasonx | oiaohm: no idea | May 14 15:03 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: You just thought what I have been thinking for a while. | May 14 15:04 |
| oiaohm | It makes completely no sence from a mono long term to be happy about NaCL. | May 14 15:04 |
| xjasonx | wonder what they are scheming | May 14 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Really I don't think they are. | May 14 15:05 |
| oiaohm | I think they are simply so desperate they will take any possible bone that comes their way. | May 14 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Even if the bone is completely laced with poison to kill them. | May 14 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Why else have to lie about stuff. | May 14 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Montréal — Berri Sq. * non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase Oh !Canada | May 14 15:07 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/13/arduino-project-gets-core-memory-accessory/ Ok sometimes you have the what the moments. | May 14 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Arduino project gets a core memory accessory | thinq_ .::. Size~: 31.37 KB | May 14 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Then you see this. | May 14 15:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The Warsaw Hackerspace (@hackerspacepl) Startup Weekend project got a major CSS overhaul: http://ur1.ca/46dsn #swwaw | May 14 15:17 | |
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| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=029548 | May 14 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus EAH5770 CUCore/2DI/1GD5 ATI Radeon HD 5770 Chipset (850MHz ) 1GB (4.8Ghz) GDDR5 Dual Display DVI/HDMI/D-Sub PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card | Canada Computers .::. Size~: 60.38 KB | May 14 15:19 |
| Ender2070 | I think thats the best bang for the buck right now | May 14 15:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] GNU SIP Witch 1.0 released today http://bit.ly/m35JeC | May 14 15:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | the image on this monitor is so good I can't get used to it | May 14 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | and I've had it for a couple weeks now :P | May 14 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I think the free radeon driver outputs a sharper image than FGLRX | May 14 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | is that my imagination? | May 14 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | seems like I can always tell which driver I'm on by if my display is sharp or splotchy | May 14 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Planning for worldwide public secure calling network with gnu sipwitch and BYOC (Bring Your Own (SIP) Client) http://bit.ly/lBZa6X | May 14 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Ottawa — Parliament Hill * non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase !Canada | May 14 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] The gfc Technological Assistance Package with switchview GUI client for sipwitch was as also released today | May 14 15:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | I gave my old CRTs to charity, does that make me bad? some orphans might be blind now | May 14 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's impossible to throw those damned things away, the garbage men on't take them | May 14 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | makes me wonder if you're supposed to bash them up into little bits that fit in garbage bags | May 14 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Realy smashing CRT's are bad for you. | May 14 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Techically you should have ewaste recycling for them. | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | that was a joke | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:27 |
| oiaohm | But lot of places don't | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | heh, Updike got rid of our recycling program | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | ask schestowitz | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | he knows what a dick that guy is | May 14 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | (the mayor) | May 14 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Reason the glowing bit out of the crt can used to make highly effective pled. | May 14 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Issue with crt is the ray tube bit that is not power effective. | May 14 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | I could reclaim the lead and put it in Updike's coffee | May 14 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | right, they use a ton of power | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | and have a really shitty image | May 14 15:29 |
| oiaohm | The phosper in the front of screen is infact highly power effectivive. | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | and they flicker | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I got migraines from them | May 14 15:29 |
| oiaohm | flicker comes from the driving system. | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I was so happy when I got my LCD | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | (Now I have a backlit LED) | May 14 15:29 |
| oiaohm | yep that is most likely pled | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | VGA and CRT need to DIE | May 14 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Made out of japan recycled CRT tvs. | May 14 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, my electric bill dipped the month I replaced my CRT TV and monitors with LCD ones | May 14 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Of course. | May 14 15:30 |
| oiaohm | And a full pled screen requires less power than a LCD one. | May 14 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Just sorting the colors out of the recycling bin is hard. | May 14 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | and it dipped again when I ditched my modem and router and got a combined one (when I switched over to ADSL) | May 14 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Its simple to just mix the powders until you have white | May 14 15:31 |
| oiaohm | And use that as back lighting. | May 14 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | those CFL light bulbs put a dent in it too | May 14 15:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Vancouver — Vancouver Art Gallery * non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase | May 14 15:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | my electric bill went from an average of $87 a month to an average of $68 | May 14 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Really I want to get to led bulbs at some point. | May 14 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | just from all that | May 14 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Of course price will be a factor. | May 14 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | the switch from CRT to LCD or LED will pay for itself | May 14 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you use it for a few years | May 14 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in *Calgary—Harry Hays Building* non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase !Canada | May 14 15:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I've been after the electric bill lately | May 14 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of it was just using electricity stupidly | May 14 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Really with CFL at the moment at a few dollars each here even replace those will pay for them selves in a life time. | May 14 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 14 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Still I cannot get decent solar panels that will pay for themselves | May 14 15:35 |
| oiaohm | where I am. | May 14 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | I liked what Jamie Zawinski said about solar | May 14 15:36 |
| oiaohm | Here it is stupid. | May 14 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's more efficient to just build a generator that works by throwing money into it to burn | May 14 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Our adverage summer temp is 30 C | May 14 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | there's no such thing as solar that pays for itself | May 14 15:37 |
| oiaohm | And most solar panels lose there power effectiveness at 30 C | May 14 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] darn ... going to need to get a new fan for my desktop computer... banging it once when it starts whining isn't enough & it's getting dented | May 14 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @iosefward can people who buy/sell software services give a mate of mine a hand please! Anon survey for costing himself. v.short. htt ... | May 14 15:37 | |
| DaemonFC | at least not on the scale of, a building at a time | May 14 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | and when there's cloud cover, they're not doing anything for you | May 14 15:38 |
| oiaohm | I do have a solar oven that has paid for it self. | May 14 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe just a lot less | May 14 15:38 |
| oiaohm | solar oven for drying fruits like the like. DaemonFC | May 14 15:38 |
| oiaohm | It truly has paid for itself. | May 14 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | what amazes me is how Walmart has managed to greenwash themselves in doing things that cut down their energy bill | May 14 15:39 |
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| DaemonFC | like building skylights instead of closing off the whole store and running overhead lights all day | May 14 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | it has nothing to do with saving the environment | May 14 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Yes also people are more likely to buy lots of particular items under natual light they would otherwise leave in the store as well. | May 14 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | what always pissed me off when I worked there, is that the stores have no control over their HVAC system | May 14 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's all controlled from Arkansas | May 14 15:40 |
| oiaohm | LOL | May 14 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | so they'd get cheap and kill the air conditioning at night | May 14 15:40 |
| oiaohm | that could be fun. | May 14 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | and it would be surface of the sun in there | May 14 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Or they having a really hot day you having a really cold one is you frease solid. DaemonFC | May 14 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | no, what they did was analyze customer flow | May 14 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | and kill the air conditioning when they knew that most of the customers were gone | May 14 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | let the employees suffer | May 14 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | they'd kill the air conditioning just in time for my shift to start | May 14 15:42 |
| oiaohm | I was on a cirus property for a while. | May 14 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh, and it's 9 @hackerspacepl people at #swwaw right now. almost 10% :) | May 14 15:42 | |
| DaemonFC | and turn it back on about an hour before I left | May 14 15:42 |
| oiaohm | The worst job was cold room fork lift driver. DaemonFC | May 14 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | heh, sometimes I'd go into the meat freezer to cool down | May 14 15:43 |
| oiaohm | 30 to 40 C outside. to fridge temp. | May 14 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | it was 12 below (F) in there | May 14 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | ahhhhh | May 14 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 14 15:43 |
| oiaohm | About once every 4 mins. DaemonFC | May 14 15:43 |
| oiaohm | if it was a slow day. | May 14 15:43 |
| oiaohm | Yes poor body gets kinda shell shock after a 8 hour shift of it. DaemonFC | May 14 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | that is the worst company to work for | May 14 15:44 |
| oiaohm | There is no such thing as doing a double shift. | May 14 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Becuase you simply will not last another 4 hours. | May 14 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | they treat everyone lower than Store Manager like crap | May 14 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Really that was for a good boss. DaemonFC | May 14 15:44 |
| oiaohm | He was truly sorry for the drivers. But as he said problem is it has to be done or the fruit suffer. | May 14 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | assistant manager (me), got all the blame and little authority | May 14 15:45 |
| oiaohm | And fruit payed the wages. | May 14 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | and a shitty salary | May 14 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | it became obvious that I didn't want to stay there | May 14 15:45 |
| oiaohm | I am of to bed. Winter is starting down here. | May 14 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | management is just so not me | May 14 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | I sucked it up for a while | May 14 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | that company is just cheap beyond belief | May 14 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | they get prices down by exploiting third world workers and cheating their employees here | May 14 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Management in a good company that treat their works right is not a bad job. | May 14 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if they've invaded Australia yet | May 14 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | you better hope they don't | May 14 15:47 |
| oiaohm | They have not yet. | May 14 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Coles and Woolworths here would give them major problems. | May 14 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Aldi as well. | May 14 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, we have ALDI here | May 14 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Between all 3 all the supply lines for product coming into Australia are basically owned. | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart grocery prices got a lot more reasonable | May 14 15:48 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do mean owned. | May 14 15:48 |
| oiaohm | So Walmart would simple die. | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | ALDI moved in and Walmart started selling their store brand stuff at a loss | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | to undercut them | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's not working | May 14 15:48 |
| oiaohm | company behind Woolworths owns most of the ports. DaemonFC | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | it is killing Walmart's bottom line trying though | May 14 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is funny | May 14 15:48 |
| oiaohm | And what they don't own coles and aldi and other smaller retails do. | May 14 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | groceries haven't ever been about profit for Walmart, they make money off them sure | May 14 15:49 |
| oiaohm | Basically Walmart would not be able to get dock space. | May 14 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | but we're talking typical markup of 10-30% | May 14 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | the general merchandise markup is roughly 50-70% | May 14 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | the point of groceries is to get people into the store | May 14 15:50 |
| oiaohm | General Merchandise Walmart would be stuffed. | May 14 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | not so much to make lots of money themselves | May 14 15:50 |
| oiaohm | They might have a hope with grocress locally sourced stuff. DaemonFC | May 14 15:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes australias food system is mostly a monoplly. | May 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if Walmart gets in, what they'll do is make everything real cheap, run the stores at a loss | May 14 15:51 |
| oiaohm | To be correct a dueloply | May 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | then when all the competitors are gone, they'll jack the prices up | May 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | a lot | May 14 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Two companies that fight with each other. | May 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | if your government lets them | May 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | (the US does) | May 14 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Pretending to be independant. | May 14 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie Colse and woolworth. | May 14 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Aldi is the recent addention and they required goverment assistance to get import space and other key things. | May 14 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | heh, job creation incentives | May 14 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | (corporate welfare) | May 14 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart does this a lot | May 14 15:52 |
| oiaohm | Really that is the other thing. | May 14 15:52 |
| oiaohm | Due to our fair trading laws. | May 14 15:53 |
| oiaohm | That running stores at loss is not an option. | May 14 15:53 |
| oiaohm | Since a store running at a loss has to be selling product too cheep. | May 14 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMGMARXISM!!!! | May 14 15:53 |
| oiaohm | So unfairly under cutting local competition. | May 14 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | brb | May 14 15:53 |
| oiaohm | So goverment takes ownship of it. | May 14 15:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nj3ma RT @nj3ma: The Moshe Njema Daily is out! http://bit.ly/dMy9d0 ▸ Top stories today via @azthedance @nymou @capitalfm_kenya | May 14 15:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Halifax — Province House * non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase !Canada | May 14 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in *Charlottetown—Province House* nonpartisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase !Canada | May 14 16:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Kelowna — The Sails, Central Park * #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase Oh !Canada | May 14 16:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @dayofaction2011 UPDATE: #halifax !dayofaction demo is going to be at the Public Library, at 2 PM. NOT Province House #fptp #cdnpoli | May 14 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Reading the etherpad notes of the !UDS-O. I missed some rather interesting discussions because I was at the time at an another session. | May 14 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-14/fedora-meeting.2011-05-14-14.31.html | May 14 16:26 | |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | May 14 16:26 |
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| abcdef | Forensic investigation of OOXML format documents | May 14 16:29 |
| abcdef | Fu, Z., Sun, X., Liu, Y., & Li, B. (2011). Forensic investigation of OOXML format documents. Digital Investigation, In Press, Corrected Proof doi:10.1016/j.diin.2011.04.001 | May 14 16:29 |
| abcdef | http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/B7CW4-52T0C66-1/2/4e7af7b102f740716c709897e047aa12 | May 14 16:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maloki Where's my sword!! Need to fight this thing! http://ur1.ca/46eb1 | May 14 16:31 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hi all | May 14 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apparently if you cry out for peace, you're an "armed terrorist gang" http://ur1.ca/46edi #syria | May 14 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Investigate FCC Commissioner Baker's clear conflict of interest. http://bit.ly/jZXmsi | May 14 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @dayofaction2011 oh and it sounds like Adrian Carr is speaking at #Vancouver !dayofaction. thx to @FairVoteCanada !cdnpoli, !fairvote | May 14 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] yay, on !fedora 15, after only 20 hours of wailing and gnashing of teeth :) | May 14 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | hi, _Goblin | May 14 16:56 |
| schestowitz | We can record now quickly as I can't later | May 14 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] City won, but they'll have to play a LOT better than that if they intend to dominate English !football & against teams who actually turn up | May 14 16:59 | |
| _Goblin | sorry, I just logged on to say I'll be around later. | May 14 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | dyfet=the gnu telephony dev | May 14 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @dayofaction2011 @CouncilofCDNs supports !dayofaction: http://ur1.ca/46egk !cdnpoli #ottawa #fptp #electoralreform | May 14 17:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] MT: @MicheleSherstan Don't forget, >TODAY< is the national !dayofaction2011 #Vancouver 2-6pm Central Library, rain or shine! !cdnpoli | May 14 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at 2:00 in * Whitehorse — Elijah Smith Building * #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase Oh !Canada | May 14 17:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY at ⇒3:00⇐ * TORONTO — Queen’s Park * non-partisan #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli !fairvote http://ur1.ca/46ase Oh !Canada | May 14 17:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Leave it to Toronto to have to be different ;D !cdnpoli | May 14 17:19 | |
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| koolhead17 | hey schestowitz | May 14 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY⇒2:00 *Charlottetown PEI—Province House* Silent Protest 4 #electoralreform !dayofaction2011 !cdnpoli http://ur1.ca/46ase !Canada | May 14 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY !dayofaction2011 UPDATE: at 2:00 in * Halifax — Halifax Public Library, Spring Garden Road * #electoralreform !cdnpoli !fairvote | May 14 17:26 | |
| schestowitz | koolhead17: what's up? | May 14 17:26 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz doing good. playing drupal drupal :) | May 14 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It Can’t Be Just a Theory When There is Admission and Proof (Anti-Google Smear Campaign) http://is.gd/eKAu8c | May 14 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TODAY !dayofaction2011 UPDATE: at 2:00 in *Ottawa— War Monument at corner of Elgin and Wellington* [not Parliament Hill] !cdnpoli !fairvote | May 14 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] It Can’t Be Just a Theory When There is Admission and Proof (Anti-Google Smear Campaign) http://is.gd/eKAu8c #google #fb #microsoft $fud | May 14 17:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @nearyd @adridg "Open Source" now means "at least one version of the software we ship is available under an OSI approved licence". | May 14 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @dayofaction2011 @ElizabethMay is down to speak at !dayofaction in #ottawa! thx a bunch to scott baker. !cdnpoli #fptp #electoralreform | May 14 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden @maloki There's your problem; bringing a sword to a windmill fight. The lance is the weapon of choice whilst tilting. :-) | May 14 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nice recap of number 8 to number 19 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13351862.stm !ManUtd | May 14 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Are C.E.O.'s really worth 500 people? http://larryrusswurm.com/2011/05/14/it-takes-a-village/ | May 14 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @laurelrusswurm @jbeatty !ubuntu IS #linux ... it is far more productive to put aside petty bickering and *help* promote !fsw | May 14 17:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/69437894108004352 | May 14 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: Reminds me of the new (BMW) Mini... RT @schestowitz: #Commodore 64 moved to #gnu #linux http://is.gd/knRGj4 | May 14 17:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/69439725433397248 | May 14 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://is.gd/knRGj4 ) | May 14 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz that article is lacking somewhat really and although Nero is available it's pretty poor, K3B is far better | May 14 17:41 |
| schestowitz | indeed, but it's better than to be ignored | May 14 17:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @fontana @gomerx you must submit a patch upstream which will then transform you into a deity | May 14 17:42 | |
| DaemonFC | the only decent software Nero ever wrote was their AAC encoder | May 14 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | they even went to lengths to spread FUD about LAME and Ogg Vorbis | May 14 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | then the MPEG Cartel rewarded them with a royalty hike | May 14 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, See what loyalty gets you? :) | May 14 17:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland From the Canyon Edge: #Byobu Video from !UDS-O Lightning Talks http://goo.gl/ungKq | May 14 17:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | then it got really funny when Nero turned around and sued MPEG-LA, called them a monopoly and cartel | May 14 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | and did that lawsuit ever go anywhere? Seems like it just vanished | May 14 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're still promoting AAC | May 14 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 14 17:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Google Chrome blog: 3D dreams in the modern browser http://goo.gl/kPJeM !chromium | May 14 17:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | I suspect they got some "consideration" in their royalty schedule in exchange for not complaining to the authorities | May 14 17:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just got back from watching my eldest daughter perform in a play. She did most splendidly :) *proud dad* | May 14 17:49 | |
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| msb_ | Ender2070: Hello? | May 14 17:49 |
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| DaemonFC | It must be nice to be a cartel like MPEG-LA | May 14 17:50 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz are you very much occupied right now? i need some suggestion/help from you | May 14 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Google Chrome blog: A flock of apps storming the Chrome Web Store http://goo.gl/W0htA !chromium | May 14 17:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | except when all your pesky victims get together and force the government officials you bribe to slap you on the wrist | May 14 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh I've never understood the rationale for changing the spelling of proper names in translations. It's always be the same name. | May 14 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Custom !Unity Launcher To Reboot In A Different OS http://goo.gl/9W5nt !ubuntu | May 14 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] BBC Sport 's video streaming is seriously pathetic :| | May 14 17:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #LightDM To Be Default Display Manager In !Ubuntu 11.10 #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/Een7c !UDS | May 14 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean I have done that, the only thing that remains is the name of the account and a false email address. | May 14 17:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Y !PPA Manager: One Stop Shop For All Your PPA Related Needs in !Ubuntu #Natty http://goo.gl/W8mo8 | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Windows is Getting Less Secure Over Time While GNU/Linux Grows Bigger http://is.gd/tBTKLx #microsoft #deception #google /cc @noyesk | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Chromium blog: Chrome Web Store in 41 languages and In-App Payments http://goo.gl/hN7BI | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, so, !lastfm no longer allows me to play my radio on my !android. I will now be using !librefm and !jamendo only from now on. | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Launchpad Blog: Launchpad Answers is faster http://goo.gl/58piY | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Prakash Advani: Slashdot: !Ubuntu Aims For 200 Million Users In Four Years http://goo.gl/WHSMi | May 14 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !lastfm says that I can no longer access my music from my country (Spain) on my phone. I will now be leaving and removing all last.fm apps. | May 14 17:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @MicheleSherstan TODAY is the national !dayofaction2011! Attend a rally near you! Demand Representation! http://ur1.ca/46f27 !cdnpoli | May 14 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Leo Iannacone: Ubuntu-it gets new website http://goo.gl/sR7ml !ubuntu #locoteams | May 14 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Elizabeth Krumbach: !UDS-O in #Budapest: Day 4 http://goo.gl/S20X1 !u | May 14 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Brett Alton: Google Chrome OS and the Future of Internet-Only Operating Systems http://goo.gl/lBlSc !chromium | May 14 18:01 | |
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| schestowitz | koolhead17: what's up? | May 14 18:04 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz PM would be better actually :D | May 14 18:04 |
| schestowitz | no, no PM here | May 14 18:05 |
| schestowitz | we are transparent | May 14 18:05 |
| koolhead17 | but its about some suggestion :( | May 14 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Gameloft might sell even more games in the !Android Market [Opinion] http://goo.gl/l1E1F | May 14 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android Market adding paid apps for 99 more countries. Here’s the full list. http://goo.gl/7OnsP | May 14 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] **ALERT** @support and all members of !sr Major spamming. Search "notices" with #librefm tag. It's infested. | May 14 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Hey, !Android Developers: pay more attention to people outside the United States [Opinion] http://goo.gl/sAeEV | May 14 18:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @cherylmcnamara Parliament must reflect the popular vote. Attend National !dayofaction2011 #ElectoralReform TODAY⇒Queens Park !cdnpoli | May 14 18:07 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/229500147 | May 14 18:08 |
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| DaemonFC | It's from DisinformationWeek | May 14 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | but it pretty much sums up what I've thought about WebGL all along | May 14 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | there's simply no safe way to use it with proprietary video drivers | May 14 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | "But WebGL can be compromised--causing graphics cards to lock up or execute arbitrary code" | May 14 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | if you're running Windows or proprietary drivers, sure | May 14 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's no support for GL_ARB_Robustness in that case | May 14 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh Then there is Tsar Czar &tc. ... if there is a common alphabet it is stupid to change. <too bad I'm not running the world eh?> | May 14 18:11 | |
| DaemonFC | and the command stream checker is secret sauce, so who knows if that will protect you from anything | May 14 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | but really these problems aren't new | May 14 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | malware that exploits the GPU can already use Flash or Silverlight to do the same things | May 14 18:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] OK, 3 new websites up and running. Think I'll take a break :) | May 14 18:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6071599105.html | May 14 18:14 |
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| DaemonFC | ZOMGTRIALSOFTWARE!!!! | May 14 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 18:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @toros #Androinica: Hey, !Android Developers: pay more attention to people outside the United States [Opinion] http://goo.gl/sAeEV | May 14 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: in Soviet Russia, trial software tries YOU!!! | May 14 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, But can Soviet Russia try me over the cloud? | May 14 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 14 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Amazon is making Linux patches and submitting them to Ubuntu | May 14 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 14 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | to make EC2 work faster or something | May 14 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that when I was cherry picking | May 14 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @PreemptDissent: Cop sues CBC over Tasered teen story | Canada | News | Toronto Sun http://t.co/LsmS9dF - #CBC should sue back | May 14 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh ye gods...Cristobal Colon! I had no idea. I will make sure to remember that. | May 14 18:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 14 18:22 |
| *DaemonFC tazes MinceR | May 14 18:23 | |
| DaemonFC | COMPLY COMPLY, errrr.....COOPERATE!!!! | May 14 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Why unlock? Why safety in numbers? This subject passed me by. | May 14 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There is a feature on my QNAP server that only works with Internet Explorer. Can you believe it? Glad I have no use for this feature. | May 14 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean if #CBC had cojones it wouldn't be the mess it is. | May 14 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: French Hadopi “3 Strikes” Anti-Piracy Company Hacked http://tinyurl.com/6k52cxp | May 14 18:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 14 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately there aren't any web browsers written in Mono, so Ubuntu 11.10 will still use Firefox *sad face* | May 14 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | [18:21] <DaemonFC> to make EC2 work faster or something | May 14 18:33 |
| schestowitz | That's OK | May 14 18:33 |
| schestowitz | in older ubuntu it didn't have firefox | May 14 18:33 |
| schestowitz | it was called a browser or something | May 14 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | no | May 14 18:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe because of debian, maybe simplicity | May 14 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Brad Sucks on Rhythmbox via Jamendo. One click to get entire !jamendo catalogue. One click also to remove !lastfm :) | May 14 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 160 million downloads on 2011-05-14 17:27 UTC | May 14 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean RT @PreemptDissent: Cop sues CBC over Tasered teen story | Canada | News | Toronto Sun http://t.co/LsmS9dF - #CBC should ... | May 14 18:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | May 14 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | abrowser is just Firefox without the branding | May 14 18:34 |
| schestowitz | yes, duh | May 14 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's never not been called Firefox | May 14 18:34 |
| schestowitz | That was befor eiceweasel though | May 14 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | they just added the abrowser branding when it wasn't clear whether Mozilla would show them favoritism over Debian | May 14 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | no, it was after the Iceweasel thing | May 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | hang on.. | May 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Can't talk much today | May 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | odd. WTH am I still op? | May 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Ah, brandon oops | May 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | pasteflood | May 14 18:35 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | May 14 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean I see, by unlock you mean open access. I was thinking unlock as in phones :-) | May 14 18:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla lets some distributions patch the shit out of Firefox and call it Firefox | May 14 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | and they pick on community distributions that do it | May 14 18:36 |
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| sebsebseb | ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ 12345678910 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | May 14 18:37 |
| schestowitz | test failed | May 14 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Clearly done in the wrong window | May 14 18:40 |
| sebsebseb | what? | May 14 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | "We don't say 'Community, here's a nice playground, you can do whatever you like in this playground, and then we're going to take it and make a product out of it'" - Shuttleworth | May 14 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | a dig at Fedora | May 14 18:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I know... it's the kind of thing that makes me want to slap him upside the head... and I'm absurdly non-violent | May 14 18:46 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: joke... | May 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | The weather forecast here is terrible | May 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I checked just hours ahead of the afternoon | May 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Sunny intervals it said, but I got stuck in rain | May 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes it's the opposite, like yesterday | May 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I bet I could just *guess* better than tha | May 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I've dried up by now | May 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Had a swin, also write 3 articles between sets at the gym | May 14 18:53 |
| schestowitz | *wrote | May 14 18:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk It's hard to say. the #G20 showed us a great deal of unaccountable police brutality. !freeByron | May 14 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | XYZ(1); | May 14 18:55 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/13401504.stm | May 14 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.channel4.com/news/city-of-manchester-united-in-footballing-celebration | May 14 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/05/14/2486470/great-day-for-manchester-as-city-and-united-bring-home-major | May 14 18:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @graziano: New iMacs even more #defectivebydesign won't allow you to replace your hd by yourself! #dbd http://ur1.ca/46axf EPIC FAIL | May 14 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We finally get to see some other parts of the Tardis #DrWho | May 14 18:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.channel4.com/news/city-of-manchester-united-in-footballing-celebration | May 14 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | Top 10 average weekly wages | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 1 Barcelona (football) £93,000 | May 14 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk A passed out suspect is ZERO threat. No force is acceptable. | May 14 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | 2 Real Madrid (football) £86,000 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 3 NY Yankees (baseball) £79,000 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 4 LA Lakers (basketball) £76,800 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 5 Orlando Magic (basketball) £75,000 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 6 Chelsea (football) £70,700 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 7 Inter Milan (football) £70,500 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 8 Boston Red Sox (baseball) £70,350 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 9 Denver Nuggets (basketball) £70,300 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 10 Manchester City (football) £69,000 | May 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | To kick a rubber ball | May 14 19:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @tekk Yeah, that made me laugh as well. Unbelievable! | May 14 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @tekk @laurelrusswurm I love that "I didn't taser him EIGHT times, it was only SIX" | May 14 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | may 28th (Wembley)... we should watch that. Barca vs United. | May 14 19:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh That was great! Pablo Francisco's very funny | May 14 19:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] preparing for #esc. Hopen @ggreve is also prepared? Dear followers, prepare for lotsa stuff. | May 14 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hoffe ihr habte den Käseigel bereit und die Hawaii Toasts sind im Ofen. #ESC in T-52 minuten! | May 14 19:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] To all my non-european followers: #ESC = Eurovision Song Cnotest. And I am the biggest fan! So ignore me for tonight if you don't like it. | May 14 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 25 countries singing to win. That's #ESC. Tune in and enjoy. Make sure you have beer and chips :-) | May 14 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @tekk for #ESC and how music unites people. (as my home country has already failed to survive the semi-finals ;-) | May 14 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve here we go again! Got the beer, steaks, chips ready? Kids asleep? | May 14 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 37 minutes b4 #ESC starts. Putting beer in the fridge! | May 14 19:26 | |
| Ender2070 | msb_ http://www.scarletandthebeast.com/web%202%20Sept.%2011%20Masonic%20Terrorism%20in%20Early%20America%20with%20photos%20within.pdf | May 14 19:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 14 19:26 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party | May 14 19:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve the austrian cleopatra is special. And bosnia-Hercegovina my personal favourite ATM. | May 14 19:27 | |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States) | May 14 19:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Whig Party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 108.49 KB | May 14 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gbraad: #DuckDuckGo now offers a public #Jabber / #XMPP bot. Just add im@ddg.gg to your account. // awesome! | May 14 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Why I can remember lyrics from a song I knew 20 years ago but can't for the life of me remember what I just walked into the kitchen to get? | May 14 19:29 | |
| msb_ | Ender2070: what's the significance today? | May 14 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @tekk yeah! Moldova is def ubercool! | May 14 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @elbek GNUPanel - - Cpanel Libre para !Debian (GPL) http://gnupanel.org/ Debian Rules!!! | May 14 19:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The irish craziness is however a bit !disturbing at #ESC. | May 14 19:32 | |
| Ender2070 | just some interesting stuff | May 14 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] However, last year's inofficial winner of #ESC seems to be absent. The Wind Machine! | May 14 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is @telecomix joining the #ESC party? How about @exiledsurfer ? | May 14 19:36 | |
| msb_ | Ender2070: skype? | May 14 19:36 |
| schestowitz | MSkype | May 14 19:39 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 14 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer puts headset on | May 14 19:39 |
| MinceR | geekings | May 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | To send out his minions to call out "Linux users" for being "tourrists" | May 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | May 14 19:40 |
| msb_ | can't type well enuf to seek help in #ekiga, which doesn't work | May 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | !google greetings footpeople frasier | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 228 229 NUMBERS 2:37 147, 175, 225 2:41 Upfield 214 3KShort 178 4 ... | http://www.afi.org.au/Content/NavigationMenu/News/ShiningaLight50YearsoftheAustralianFilmInstitute/Shining_Index.pdf | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The News Newspaper - issue 083 (July 28th 2010) | http://issuu.com/thenews-virtualpaper/docs/the_news_newspaper_-_issue_83 | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Set Dancing News - Old news and reviews—Volume 52 | http://www.setdancingnews.net/news/onews52.lp | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Category: recycling | http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/recycling/ | May 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube greetings foot people | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - "Greetings from a Ger" Emanddave's photos around Elstei ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBMIPqgTaumQ | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Comments (87) - YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. | http://www.youtube.com/all_comments%3Fv%3DPH5uBbCNyBo | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Greetings from Nicole Bassett, CSR manager @ Patagonia | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTHNxd_n7h60 | May 14 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - China Shoots Self in Foot With Apparent YouTube Censorship Attempt ... | http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000526.html | May 14 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Hm... tough nut | May 14 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 23 minutes to go! #ESC rox the world! | May 14 19:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dyfet: GNU SIP Witch 1.0 released today http://bit.ly/m35JeC | May 14 19:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU Telephony » Blog Archive » GNU SIP Witch 1.0 released for peer-to-peer next gen VoIP .::. Size~: 8.19 KB | May 14 19:42 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: SIP reqs lots of port holes, skype doesn't. skype much easier to set up and use. | May 14 19:44 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: when skype client logs in it probably starts a tcpip stream that skype server maintains for signalling, thus no port holes reqd. | May 14 19:47 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: port holes in firewall and router probably beyond most people. | May 14 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Looking forward to the silicon twins at #ESC :-) | May 14 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | msb_: shows you as offline | May 14 19:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: it uses other peers as proxies to work around the issue, which is a complete waste of resources | May 14 19:49 |
| MinceR | people should learn to set up their routers probably instead of relying on a botnet. | May 14 19:49 |
| MinceR | s/probably/properly/ | May 14 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I managed to speak with _Goblin on sip for 3 hours straight | May 14 19:50 |
| schestowitz | also spoke to his wife | May 14 19:50 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I can't even get audio or test call to work in ekiga, so I am offline. | May 14 19:50 |
| schestowitz | no hangups or interruptions at all | May 14 19:50 |
| schestowitz | msb_: tried linphone yet? | May 14 19:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe it uses the wrong device address | May 14 19:51 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: and I were not even using the same prgram | May 14 19:51 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: linphone shows no test-call facility. | May 14 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Just the same protocol | May 14 19:51 |
| Ender2070 | not right now im going out soon | May 14 19:51 |
| schestowitz | It's nice, transparent | May 14 19:52 |
| Ender2070 | today tho for sure | May 14 19:52 |
| schestowitz | msb_: don't cut yourself too thijn for the Microsoft propagandists | May 14 19:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: RD @filipesaraiva Caso Skyhook escancara a mão pesada do #Google em relação ao #Android - http://ur1.ca/467rt - notícia pesada | May 14 19:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Caso Skyhook escancara a mão pesada do Google em relação ao Android | Gizmodo Brasil .::. Size~: 44.75 KB | May 14 19:52 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: ??? | May 14 19:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110511PD217.html | May 14 19:53 |
| schestowitz | That's a lot of Linux | May 14 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | msb_: they use your claims to play along with the "Linux users lie" propaganda | May 14 19:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The whole setup of #esc in Düsseldorf is breathtaking. LED Wall of 60x18m, 9m high flames, all in a soccer stadium. | May 14 19:56 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I'm telling the truth. ekiga is hard to get running on my machine. This should be admitted, like shitty kde4, need for manual X configurator Sax2, pulseaudio is fucked -- default should be alsa. These should be admitted and fixed. | May 14 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | Works for me(TM) | May 14 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | lol | May 14 19:57 |
| Ender2070 | have you tried Fedora? | May 14 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das Wort zum #esc ^H Sonntag. | May 14 19:57 | |
| msb_ | No. Suse has been ok up to now, and I have it running with kde3 and alsa. | May 14 19:57 |
| Ender2070 | I tried opensuse 11.4 with kde4, worked perfectly too | May 14 19:59 |
| msb_ | MinceR: botnet? | May 14 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | ASUS P5N-E | May 14 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 4 minutes! #ESC! Music! Jury! 12 Points! Unmissable! | May 14 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] At the end of #ESC teh whole stage will transform to an UFO and fly away. Certainly looks like it. | May 14 19:59 | |
| msb_ | Asus M2N-E | May 14 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | Asus P5K-E/WIFI-AP | May 14 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | actually | May 14 20:00 |
| *sebsebseb is having fun | May 14 20:00 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Hi Mate, I;ll be around in about 20 minutes if you want to record. | May 14 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | even the wifi is working with open drivers | May 14 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | I can use the wifi with kismet, aircrack, etc | May 14 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | has the dongle to hook up an external antenna | May 14 20:01 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Funny you should mention the wife....she's got her mother using SIP now.....they talk on that.... | May 14 20:01 |
| msb_ | kde4 is crap -- phonon doesn't work for me, desktop-pager is unreadable, whole huge complex theme system is total garbage, renaming applets as plasmoids is very stupid -- like calling directories folders. Whole thing is POS except for a few improved apps. | May 14 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | I don't agree | May 14 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | I had actually switched from kde 3 to gnome because I didn't like it | May 14 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | then from gnome to kde 4 | May 14 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | i've long since ditched kde3 | May 14 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | years and years ago | May 14 20:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] HERE WE GO! #ESC! | May 14 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The hymn! #ESC! Sing a long! | May 14 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] THIS IS DÜSSELDORF! | May 14 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Peter Urban starts! #ESC rox the world! | May 14 20:02 | |
| Ender2070 | if I wanted a blast from the past I'd go back to enlightenment, at least it has new stuff | May 14 20:03 |
| Ender2070 | e17 | May 14 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Raab looks like he is missing his other blues brother. Where's Elwood? #esc | May 14 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #impressed. Engelke looks younger every day. #esc | May 14 20:04 | |
| msb_ | Ender2070: u ignored all my points. past/present=not significant | May 14 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | I like all of the new features | May 14 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | pulseaudio imo works very well for me | May 14 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | using pavucontrol | May 14 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | I can switch between my logitech usb headset and my onboard sound | May 14 20:05 |
| msb_ | pulseaudio fails for many people. | May 14 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | even have different apps using them seperately | May 14 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: blogged: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ Uploaded http://ur1.ca/468bt | May 14 20:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “Inconstant Moon” update ~ Uploaded « Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 66.82 KB | May 14 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | it fails for a small minority | May 14 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | its all open source, you can make your own distro :) | May 14 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | scratch an itch | May 14 20:06 |
| Ender2070 | make something with only trinity, ext3, xfree86 and alsa and have fun | May 14 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Very cool start of #ESC!!! | May 14 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Leningrad cowboys version of Atellite at #ESC :-) | May 14 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] James Blast feeling! #ESC | May 14 20:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] That song does not get better when it is played faster and sung by someone with more clothes. #ESC | May 14 20:07 | |
| Ender2070 | thats the problem with windows | May 14 20:07 |
| Ender2070 | everyone has to upgrade their hardware all the time just to stay fast | May 14 20:08 |
| Ender2070 | i upgrade my hardware often anyways, and I like the stuff that takes advantage | May 14 20:08 |
| Ender2070 | getting an ati 6850 soon | May 14 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | open source drivers should work well | May 14 20:09 |
| msb_ | My hw is fine, and buying new hw to work with Linux fuckups is total bs. | May 14 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember that #es requires you to follow @greve too. | May 14 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The clone wars of Lena at #esc | May 14 20:09 | |
| Ender2070 | your hardware is quite obsolete | May 14 20:09 |
| msb_ | AMD 2-core 64bit 5200 -- i don't think so! | May 14 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | i had that slaving my files 3 years ago | May 14 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | just idling slaving my files in a ZFS raid | May 14 20:10 |
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| Ender2070 | you could buy that system today for around $100 CND | May 14 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Would the real Lena please sing in english? #ESC ;-) | May 14 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 42!!! Lena doubles at #esc. That's what I call the Doug Adams of the day! | May 14 20:11 | |
| Ender2070 | I even consider my Q6600 obsolete | May 14 20:11 |
| Ender2070 | I want an intel core i7 | May 14 20:11 |
| Ender2070 | 4 cores with HT = 8 logical cpus | May 14 20:11 |
| Ender2070 | chromium takes advantage of it too | May 14 20:11 |
| Ender2070 | as well as all compilers | May 14 20:11 |
| Ender2070 | or an AMD 6 core | May 14 20:12 |
| Ender2070 | you might not agree but im just saying its not hard to find a distro with what you need | May 14 20:13 |
| Ender2070 | if not be able to make it yourself, even as a spin of something else | May 14 20:13 |
| Ender2070 | I plan to make a fedora spin soon with all my default software choices built in | May 14 20:13 |
| Ender2070 | once 15 hits | May 14 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The light thing at the ceiling at #esc is def inspired by ET AFAICS. | May 14 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Switching to HD Suisse for#ESC. Ah... no more Denglisch mishmash. #relief | May 14 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Fergie speaks so much sense. http://ur1.ca/46g1l Onwards and upwards !ManUtd | May 14 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Let's go! Finland starts the show at #esc. | May 14 20:14 | |
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| msb_ | I just use suse and fix it. | May 14 20:14 |
| MinceR | msb_: skype is a botnet | May 14 20:14 |
| msb_ | MinceR: explain please. | May 14 20:15 |
| MinceR | it's users don't know what code they're running, who it's talking to over the network and what they're talking | May 14 20:15 |
| Ender2070 | DaemonFC even builds his own kernel because he hates alsa and pulseaudio | May 14 20:15 |
| Ender2070 | and wants oss4 | May 14 20:15 |
| msb_ | MinceR: So? | May 14 20:15 |
| MinceR | obfuscated, encrypted code and obfuscated, encrypted network communication with random hosts | May 14 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] He's the son of Captain Kirk. I am sure. #esc | May 14 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Damn the weather for cutting this trip short. http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110514 #sip_and_click | May 14 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Do Da Dam? Are you testing m yintelligence? #esc | May 14 20:16 | |
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| MinceR | so they could be using the peer hosts for anything they feel like and they wouldn't be found out for a long time | May 14 20:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But it works great, without port holes which will be beyond many naive users. | May 14 20:16 |
| Ender2070 | the thing is you don't believe the government is doing any of that | May 14 20:16 |
| Ender2070 | so why are you worried | May 14 20:16 |
| MinceR | msb_: yes, naive users run all sorts of malware unknowingly | May 14 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] "Da Da Dam" is Finnish for "I wish I was old enough to shave", I've been told. #ESC | May 14 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That shirt was once a collection of picture frames. #esc | May 14 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Well, his english is better as Lenas. ANd hiis voice can even go higher. #esc | May 14 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve NEXT? | May 14 20:17 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: No reason to believe skype is malware. Not until it's run by MS. | May 14 20:19 |
| MinceR | guess who it's run by now! | May 14 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It's a wig. I am sure. #esc | May 14 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Thank you. If you had continued singing, people *would* have blown up the planet, just to escape this song. #ESC | May 14 20:19 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: who? | May 14 20:19 |
| MinceR | m$. | May 14 20:19 |
| MinceR | actually the fact that they were hiding from their users what they were doing should have made it suspicious enough all along | May 14 20:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: what were they hiding? | May 14 20:20 |
| MinceR | the code and the network protocol | May 14 20:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR: no reason to suspect any wrongdoing. | May 14 20:20 |
| MinceR | maybe for you | May 14 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yeah! Bosnia Hezegovina! My favourite ATM. | May 14 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The jacket is a reminder of better times. #esc | May 14 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The should movements of the girl ath the piano are #disturbing. #esc | May 14 20:21 | |
| MinceR | i'd say there was plenty of reason for anyone who's used to free software to suspect foul play in skype | May 14 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you thought Rock'n'roll is dead, look at #esc. Seems you are right ;-) | May 14 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The circus came to town. Could it leave now, please? #ESC | May 14 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bosnian version of Aerobic? Oh so 80s! #esc | May 14 20:22 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: describe the reason -- don't just hand-wave | May 14 20:23 |
| MinceR | i have described it already | May 14 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Waving for bye bye. Good choice. #esc | May 14 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How did the danish guys make it cross the border? I guess they will not be allowed back in. #esc | May 14 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes, Denmark should be excluded from the european union fro this "performace" at #esc. | May 14 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The Danish invented cloning and tried it first on George Michael? I guess any technology has its pitfalls in the beginning. #ESC | May 14 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh all of them... keanu, arnie were dead bang on | May 14 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve they mixed Geroge Michael with Robbie Williams and they got a Duran Duran clone. #fail at #esc | May 14 20:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That song was planned for whatev soccer championship teh danish never won. I am sure. #esc | May 14 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | [20:01] <_Goblin> schestowitz: Funny you should mention the wife....she's got her mother using SIP now.....they talk on that.... | May 14 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Neat | May 14 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear @BarackObama - would you mind pausing your tweeting - we are all watching #esc. kthxbai | May 14 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The time machin that brought her form the 70s can bring her back now. Next. #esc | May 14 20:29 | |
| MinceR | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Speculation-over-back-door-in-Skype-736607.html | May 14 20:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] She reminds me of Jennifer Lopez. And that's not based on her singing. #esc | May 14 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Ah. Did I miss something? Sorry, fell asleep temporarily. #ESC | May 14 20:31 | |
| schestowitz | !google skype back door police germany | May 14 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Austrian official fuels Skype backdoor rumours • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/25/skype_backdoor_rumours/ | May 14 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Skype Backdoor Speculations | http://www.ghacks.net/2008/07/24/skype-backdoor-speculations/ | May 14 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bavarian government caught looking for Skype backdoor | http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2008/01/bavarian-government-caught-looking-for-skype-backdoor.ars | May 14 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Skype Backdoor? | http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/skype/skype-backdoor.asp | May 14 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Disco time at #esc. Hungary is next and next. | May 14 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Def a #winning outfit. The blue thingy at the right hand is for sure a teleport button that she should press NOW. Next. #esc | May 14 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm with 79 dents! | May 14 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shamelessly copying Raabs WaddaHaddeDuDeDa lightning outfit. Shame on Hungary ;-) #esc | May 14 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OMG. Ireleand next. #esc | May 14 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The wonders of drugs and hairspray unite in Ireland. #esc | May 14 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] For me the winnoer of #ESC this year is the LED screen. #impressive. | May 14 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] You can tell that Ireland has no budget for the #ESC and is desperate to avoid winning. Successfully. #ESC | May 14 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am giving Ireland a 7ß% chance of #winning the #esc. Gut feeling that drives me to the toilet now. | May 14 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] AHDS. Nuff said. Ireland at #esc. | May 14 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] no no no no....not eric saade!!! | May 14 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I'm knitting with only one needle..." ~ Freddie Mercury !q !Listening to "Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad" | May 14 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Unpopular was teh original title IIRC. #esc and Sweden has never come back to the ABBA level. Sure looser this year. | May 14 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Sweden: This song has the wrong title. How about "awful" or "boring"? Next. #ESC | May 14 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] "LORDI WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE NEED YOU?? #eurovision" | May 14 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Another cheap copy of a Duran Duran video clip, combined with music straight from a nintendo. Sweden , no way. #esc | May 14 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] NEXT!!! #esc | May 14 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OMG. Nickelodeon comes alive. #esc | May 14 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] WOOO!!! ESTONIA TIME!!! | May 14 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Lithuania: What did I saw about the background dancers? Please turn the playback on! #ESC | May 14 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] She is 18, lloks like 15 and behaves like 2. Next. #esc | May 14 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Unmotivated, uncoordinated dance in the background makes it quite funny. #esc | May 14 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I wonder if she'll ever change those deer in headlights eyes.... | May 14 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Lithuania - sorry but no. NEXT. #esc | May 14 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Let's hope Greece wins. Could solve their financial problems. #esc | May 14 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Did they have to pay their flights in advance? Or did they have a sponsor? Greece at #esc. | May 14 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Very traditional performance from Greece at #esc. Just as in Zorbas. Impressed. | May 14 20:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Da muss Rehakles eingreifen und wechseln. Ganz schnell. #esc | May 14 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Greece shows that he can keep a tone for > 5 seconds. And that's about it. Next. #esc | May 14 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] looks like I need to go with my preferred country after all, go #finland ! | May 14 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Greece proves that the old "poor, but talented" meme is a lie at #ESC. | May 14 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Several #esc2011 travellers watching the final on phones on the airport shuttle bus from Duesseldorf flight. The future is great. :-) | May 14 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm wondering if (a) everyone on Identi.ca has gone mad, or (b) everyone on Identi.ca is watching some insane broadcast show, European Idol? | May 14 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Russia next. Be very afraid. #esc | May 14 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<back to learning about blog theme customization | May 14 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] I know that Modern Talking was popular in Russia. But did they have to clone them? Twice? #ESC | May 14 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We love Belarus didn't survive the emifinals, so I guess Gazprom ^h Russia had to send this disaster to us. #esc | May 14 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Rumour has it that he gas flames at #esc are sponsored by Gazprom. #esc | May 14 20:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] No, we don't want you. Next. #ESC | May 14 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The Gazprom singer is quite OK. So maybe Gazprom could win this year? #esc | May 14 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The phantom of the opera? France, how low can you go? #esc | May 14 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Italy tries it classical. Oh wait. This is France. #ESC | May 14 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is that the uniform of the salvation army? Framce, sorry but NEXT. #esc | May 14 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wrong show, France. Zjis is #esc, not Sarkozy Bling Party. #esc | May 14 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Berlusconis boys prepare fro bunga bunga at #esc. | May 14 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] I just love the way Fergie always says "Well done" to the interviewer at the end of each interview :D !MUFC | May 14 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Italy: This is actually not awful. You probably mistook the point of the contest. ;) #ESC | May 14 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Just to explain: The #ESC is about sending the worst pseudo-musicians to pretend they're musicians for our entertainment. | May 14 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] See? Switzerland is showing how... ;) #ESC | May 14 21:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Ah, rule #2 of the #ESC: If your candidate can't sing, make sure she's at least good looking. | May 14 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Back to singing on the street for Anna from Switzerland. But the dress is nice. #esc | May 14 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ...followed by rule #3 of #ESC: and if she REALLY REALLY can't sing, make sure she's also skimpily clad. Let's see who'll demonstrate that. | May 14 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OMG. UK. They know how to ruin #esc. Stay tuned. Or take a pee. Maybe latter option is better. | May 14 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Naked young studs at #esc. Hm. OK. #esc | May 14 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Oh my god. More damaged clones. This time of Take That. Next. #ESC | May 14 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW thats I can, not ICANN, you nerds out there. UK on a retro trip. Stock/Aitken/waterman back from the dead? #esc | May 14 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Anthony #Liguori : "There is simply no way you can reconcile contributor agreements w/ the philosophy of !freesoftware " http://ur1.ca/46ggx | May 14 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] come on #esc, didn't we get over boybands like 10 years ago? | May 14 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If all arab countries could participate in #esc we would have party on the streets and not bloody revolutions. | May 14 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes! Moldavia! THE BEST! #esc | May 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] MMMOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLDDDOOOVAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! | May 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just realized #Eurovision 2011 must be going on. Need to temporarily unsubscribe from various otherwise highly valued identicans! | May 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That is #ESC! Moldavia FTW! | May 14 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The dadaistic pogo dwarfs from Moldova are actually funny. They at least know how serious to take the #ESC ;) | May 14 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Moldova have better hats than devo. #Eurovision | May 14 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ska version of Red Hot Chilly peppers from Moldavia. #esc at its best! | May 14 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes, that's their real hair. Moldavia at #esc. | May 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Come on europe, I have faith in you. Finland or Moldova. #esc | May 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OK. Lena reloaded at #esc. I do like the song. | May 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] LENA TIEM #esc | May 14 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The dancing is as srange as her english. #melikes Lena reloaded at #esc | May 14 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The tension is rising... will she be singing in English? Nope. And remember rules #1 and #2? ;) #ESC | May 14 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fontana Dude, the #ESC is the best thing to happen to Entertainment since forever. | May 14 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] I think this was enough intro. Will the song begin any time soon? #ESC | May 14 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] She will not win, but #melikes her song anyway. Lena reloaded. #esc | May 14 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is the first time I have watched #Eurovision since I was a kid. Good fun really. | May 14 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve you are rude to Lena. Be very ashamed! BTW - Romania? NEXT!! | May 14 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Romania. Hibernated for 15 years, singing as in 1995. Even the same old clothes. #esc | May 14 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Romania: Did that song fall of the back of some truck? The trick about imitation is knowing WHAT to imitate. #ESC | May 14 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That will not change the world. Sorry, Romania. #esc | May 14 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Cleopatra from Austria. Can you say NEXT? #esc | May 14 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Austria sends the male version of Celine Dion. Oh, wait... #ESC | May 14 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] why did romania submit that girl from tron legacy? #esc | May 14 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If Falco would still live, he would rock #esc. Autria, you #fail this year. | May 14 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] http://www.beet.tv/2011/05/the-semantic-web-is-coming-to-newsrooms-this-summer-hearsts-cto-michael-dunn.html #linkeddata #rdfa | May 14 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice wig. Bad music. Austria at #esc. | May 14 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva yesss....join ussssss | May 14 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sister act as backing doesn't save Austria at #esc. | May 14 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Invasion of the twins. After Jedwars | May 14 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wow, scary multi-armed creature representing Azerbaijan #ESC | May 14 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Azerbaijan, haven't heard this ye....oh god #esc | May 14 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] to quote @jwildeboer NEXT!!!!! #esc | May 14 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh-ho - o, oho - o, I am so scared of ever listening to the radio in Azerbaijan now. #ESC | May 14 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Azerbaijan reminds us of better times at #esc. Ah, the 70s. Polaroid, Ray Ban and bad music. Thx for that!. | May 14 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wow, if I didn't know it was comedy, I might mistake it for a bad music show #ESC | May 14 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why do blonde singers from eastern europe all have the same nose? Same clinic? #esc | May 14 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just lowered my refresh time in emacs-identica mode for this... | May 14 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] that guy is WAYYYYYY to old to be base jumping. #justsayin #esc | May 14 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Maja from Slovenia. Not uncommon inquite some bars, BTW. #esc | May 14 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wow, I didn't know there were zebras in slovenia #ESC | May 14 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] slovinia, NEXT #esc | May 14 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Size 0 is history at #esc. One of the good things IMHO. Big girls rock! ;-) | May 14 21:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Suppressing the urge to go and get a tall glass of Laphroaig. Need to remind myself am not in some bar for a nightcap. #ESC | May 14 21:37 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I regularly talk on POTS phone even though I assume it is tapped. I don't care if Skype is. | May 14 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @greve it's hilarious! I can't imagine these guys are taking it seriously! go Iceland! #ESC | May 14 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva you should've seen sweden, truly awful | May 14 21:42 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Only reason I don't put everything I know on my website is lack of time. | May 14 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Spain invoking rule #1, #2 and #3 simultaneously. Impressive. #ESC | May 14 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] good thing she's wearing a pink dress vs the white dancers. I wouldn't know who's supposed to sing better otherwise #ESC | May 14 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] did I just hear a bagpipe? O_O #esc | May 14 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That looks like braindead dancing. Spain at #esc should not be looked at. And not listened to. NEXT! | May 14 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve yes, spain is also invoking the wind machine, #impressed. #esc | May 14 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] oooh, fireworks! shiny! go Apple err Spani! #ESC | May 14 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The sand painter is back. #esc | May 14 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dr Emilov is back on stage. And boy, did he perform. Look at her nose! #esc cc @avagreve | May 14 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wow, sand-drawing performance is truly great! will someone tell Ukraine this is a *music* contest? #ESC | May 14 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Wondering:Was the nose budget sufficient, or do they time-share backstage? #ESC | May 14 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That poor chicken that had to die for this dress is available at kentucky fried chicken BTW. #esc | May 14 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @lxoliva: wow, sand-drawing performance is truly great# will someone tell Ukraine this is a *music* contest? #ESC | May 14 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Serbia: After last year, I have high hopes for you! #ESC | May 14 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Yeah Baby! #eurovision | May 14 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] uh oh, there's something wrong with the colors of my TV. just in time for the Serbia, erhm, performance :-( #ESC | May 14 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] this perfomance is older than the first eurovision, NEXT #esc | May 14 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Serbia takes us back to a time where the berlin wall was standing and we in the west were the ones making such evil muzak. #esc | May 14 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Reminds me of Petula Clark, looks wise. | May 14 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ....and am thoroughly disappointed. Serbia, those wallpapers had better been left untouched. #ESC | May 14 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] oh, I see, it's not the TV color scheme that's broken #ESC | May 14 21:54 | |
| *fanta01 (~user@dslb-094-221-203-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) has left #techrights ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") | May 14 21:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] georgia, automatic 0 points from russia? #esc | May 14 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Fesch! Ein grüngsticktes Dirndl. #esc | May 14 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This years #esc is a giant #fail IMHO. This georgian Rümmstein + Evanascence #fail is just the tip of the iceberg. | May 14 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Georgia inventing the genre of "Poser-Rap-Metal." And where do I end up if I follow that labyrinth on her dress? #ESC | May 14 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] so, the Georgia team represents the green pirate party, right? #ESC | May 14 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve but the nose makes it all worthwhile. This years #esc is Dr Emilovs work. #impressed. | May 14 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I regret having missed lordi at eurovision.... #esc | May 14 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So. Here is my prediction Ireland or Moldavia. #esc | May 14 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Ohhhhhh.... all 25 countries are done.... time to listen to some music. This year's #ESC was weak. | May 14 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <msb_> schestowitz: Only reason I don't put everything I know on my website is lack of time. | May 14 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, same here | May 14 22:00 |
| schestowitz | But I also focus on techrights now | May 14 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] #Moldovas Dadaistic-Pogo-Dwarfs are my clear favorite at this #ESC. If it's about music, #Italy should probably win. | May 14 22:01 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Very good! Human knowledge belongs to the world! | May 14 22:01 |
| msb_ | Utopia Now! | May 14 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Well I like the Georgian song, the singer was not overpowered at all, she had a good pair of lungs on her #esc | May 14 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk oh wait, we're getting a lot of moldova love.... | May 14 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] best female singer was from Lithuania; best male singer from France; Moldava's was best performance #ESC | May 14 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve Absolutely. Dr Emilov is the unsung hero of #es. I would even call him this years wind machine. | May 14 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] sand painting should be overall winner #ESC | May 14 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Time to iron my shirts for my trip to Zagreb tmrw morning. | May 14 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] sadly, watching #ESC for real wasn't as much fun as imagining it based on last year's dents. prolly won't do it again | May 14 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva the semis are more entertaining | May 14 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @lxoliva last years #esc was far better. | May 14 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] should Sweden, Russia or UK get the prize for best clone of Los Menudos? #ESC | May 14 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That was Randy Newman for Italy. #esc | May 14 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] everyone in europe vote moldova! #esc | May 14 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] MOLDOVA NOW!!! #esc | May 14 22:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ....plaid suit? O.o #esc | May 14 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] you can't get more 70's than this folks... #esc | May 14 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] here it comes.... #esc | May 14 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just about all cider drunk in England comes from the West Country so it seems a little odd to be drinking Belgium cider. | May 14 22:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Is there a speech to text app for #Android ? | May 14 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. hardware spec | May 14 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] oh, gosh, #ESC is *far* too slow. disconnecting... | May 14 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] so tense..... #esc | May 14 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva thanks :) | May 14 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This voting is hugely entertaining #esc | May 14 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you're right. Sound quality was high | May 14 22:46 |
| _Goblin | :) | May 14 22:47 |
| schestowitz | It'll be a good show, I can tell | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Also better timed | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | 3 tracks... | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | the lats one is nice | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | *last | May 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz | 6 months+ of audacity-> never a crash | May 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Intro needs redoing | May 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz | It's still too noise | May 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz | *noisy | May 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz | need a monophonic intro | May 14 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @methoddan: God I hope Jedward don't with this. Unless of course the prize is instant death. Then I'd back them. #eurovision #esc | May 14 22:56 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I can work on a redo | May 14 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IMHO next year #esc should have only jury voting. Can't trust those kiddos to know how #esc works. Sweden? I mean serious? | May 14 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @greve yes, let's hope next year in Azerbaijan we will meet Dr Emilov in person! | May 14 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Spain, Estonia, Switzerland fight for biggest loser at #esc. Azerbaijan at the top. Weird. Like antimatter meets lady Gaga. | May 14 23:04 | |
| schestowitz | The show sounds lovely | May 14 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Not sure why | May 14 23:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @tekk @jwildeboer ah, the great azerbaijan bailout of 2012. "You made us!" | May 14 23:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So next years #esc in Baku. Who would have thought? | May 14 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This year noone with < 19 points at #esc. No zero point scandals. #fail ;-) | May 14 23:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Perl 5.14.0 released http://lwn.net/Articles/442938/rss | May 14 23:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Azerbaijan was definitely far better compared to Sweden. But Moldavia is my #winning title. | May 14 23:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Perl 5.14.0 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.59 KB | May 14 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Italy Jazz music in top 3 at #esc. Now that is what I call a surprise. | May 14 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Israel must be really cheesed of they can't vote for USA #esc | May 14 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ich glaube es wird schwer für Lena. #esc </sarcasm> | May 14 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Azerbaijan is WINNER! Do the maths. It is done! #esc moves to BAKU in 2012! | May 14 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Azerbaijan - #esc taken by a stranger according to Lena ;-) | May 14 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All good fun, well done Azerbaijan #esc | May 14 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Dr Emilov wins the #ESC. Congratulations! | May 14 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way to bed. Up early for flight to Zagreb tmrw. Will stay in Zagreb till wednesday. | May 14 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Voice blogging is so cool from speak n' send #android | May 14 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] But there is a well deserved second place for Italy. Congrats! Your song actually did not suck! #ESC | May 14 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Signing off for tonight. Until next year at #ESC. Have a good flight, @jwildeboer! | May 14 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LMAO Someone who got a cob on over the #esc unsubscribed from me, Too funny. | May 14 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Government that has led us into another war is going to legislate that soldiers are treated like heroes.......... | May 14 23:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Whereas in fact they are young idiots being taken advantage of by politicians and capitalists. | May 14 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Such is the extent of putting the military on a pedestal, that saying what I have just done is almost taboo. | May 14 23:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Sooo ... Swedes supplied the song and dance for Azerbaijan, dance and voice coach for Russia ... it's all an internal competition. :-) | May 14 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @altlab Tech mogul? Nope. Any old hack will do. - The Washington Post http://t.co/aSxNgrX via @washingtonpost | May 14 23:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tech mogul? Nope. Any old hack will do. - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 82.85 KB | May 14 23:47 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: show notes done | May 14 23:49 |
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