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schestowitzI will run some experiments tomorrow unless something technical stands in the way.May 16 00:00
schestowitzMinceR: May 16 00:01
fcassiahttp://www.holysmoke.org/cos/scientology-weapons-smuggler.htmMay 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Guardian, 3/16: Arrested missle-smuggler tells FBI he is a Scientologist .::. Size~: 30.96 KBMay 16 00:01
schestowitz!google godlman sachs gunsMay 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Arming Goldman Sachs With Pistols: Alice Schroeder - Bloomberg | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2009-12-03/arming-goldman-sachs-with-pistols-alice-schroeder-correct-.htmlMay 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Are Goldman Sachs Bankers Really Carrying Guns? - Deal Journal - WSJ | http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/12/09/are-goldman-sachs-bankers-really-carrying-guns/May 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Goldman Sachs Staff Buying Guns 'To Defend Themselves Against ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/01/goldman-sachs-staff-buyin_n_375106.htmlMay 16 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Goldman Sachs Bankers Buy Guns to Defend Against “Populist ... | http://www.infowars.com/goldman-sachs-bankers-buy-guns-to-defend-against-populist-uprising/May 16 00:01
schestowitzMinceR: yeah... just replace science with.... SOMETHING.May 16 00:02
schestowitzanything!May 16 00:02
fcassiahey that bot is awesome. is it doing live queries to amazon.com with a set of restricted sites, or do you have to first add the articles into a database?May 16 00:02
schestowitzCPM... Netscape... Google... CERN.. computer scientistsMay 16 00:02
fcassiasorry I meant google.com not amazon.comMay 16 00:02
MinceRschestowitz: m$ and crApple already didMay 16 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bernstien's classic article on the CIA in the media http://alturl.com/ogpr2May 16 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I wonder how long it will be before I go on !psn ? Got loads of stuff to do...maybe give it a quick go tomorrow...maybe.May 16 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Carl Bernstein .::. Size~: 104.58 KBMay 16 00:03
schestowitzThan you have Microsoft and CanonicalMay 16 00:03
schestowitzEmbracing other people's scienceMay 16 00:03
schestowitzhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/rickspencer3May 16 00:03
MinceRwhile denying itMay 16 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rick Spencer  | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 48.98 KBMay 16 00:03
MinceRjust like fundiesMay 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitzEngineering Director, UbuntuMay 16 00:03
schestowitzCanonical Ltd.May 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitzLead Program ManagerMay 16 00:03
MinceRusing computers to preach to people while denying that the principles that make those computers work actually existMay 16 00:03
schestowitzMicrosoftMay 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitzUser Experience ManagerMay 16 00:03
schestowitzMicrosoftMay 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitz"May 16 00:03
schestowitzUsability Engineer, Usability ManagerMay 16 00:03
schestowitzMicrosoftMay 16 00:04
schestowitz"May 16 00:04
schestowitzIt says "Engineer"May 16 00:04
schestowitzAt MicrosoftMay 16 00:04
MinceRyeah, quite the laughMay 16 00:04
schestowitzThink more like sandwich engineerMay 16 00:04
schestowitzThink UnityMay 16 00:04
schestowitz"May 16 00:04
MinceRas if they had any right to call those lobotomized apes "engineers"May 16 00:04
schestowitzRick Spencer's EducationMay 16 00:04
schestowitzGeorge Mason UniversityMay 16 00:04
schestowitzM.A., Human Factors Engineering May 16 00:04
schestowitz"May 16 00:04
schestowitz"May 16 00:04
schestowitzEarlham CollegeMay 16 00:04
MinceRif they have a good day they can find their ass without helpMay 16 00:04
schestowitzBA, Philosophy May 16 00:04
schestowitz"May 16 00:04
schestowitzI don't think he codesMay 16 00:04
schestowitzMaybe he doesMay 16 00:04
schestowitzLike mockups/prototypesMay 16 00:04
fcassiafood for thought: Microsoft skype as the ultimate trojan horse... runs behind fireewalls at major corporations while delivering who-knows-what to the outside world via encrypted VPN.... :)May 16 00:05
MinceR"codes" codes or "copies *BSD code" codes?May 16 00:05
MinceRfcassia: skype has always been a security issue, even before the borg assimilated itMay 16 00:05
schestowitz!Google windows update crashes skypeMay 16 00:05
schestowitz!ggoogle windows update crashes skypeMay 16 00:05
schestowitz!google windows update crashes skypeMay 16 00:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Skype Blames Microsoft Windows Update for Network Crash | http://gizmodo.com/%23!291202/skype-blames-microsoft-windows-update-for-network-crashMay 16 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Help for Skype: Why does Skype crash on my computer? | https://support.skype.com/faq/FA10382/Why-does-Skype-crash-on-my-computer%3Bjsessionid%3DEB98231DC38162503F1A9440ABA78607%3Ffrompage%3DcategoryMay 16 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Skype causes my computer to crash - Skype Community | http://forum.skype.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D99776May 16 00:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - [#SCW-1652] Skype crashes after win update (See SCW-1650 ... | https://jira.skype.com/browse/SCW-1652May 16 00:06
schestowitzOne botnet relies on anotherMay 16 00:06
fcassiayeah, but maybe it explains the interest too. I mean... it´s not like windows update is sending data to the cloud all the time, but skype often is :)May 16 00:06
schestowitzsky-pMay 16 00:06
schestowitzit figuresMay 16 00:06
schestowitzanyway, if people thought there was a future in this whole acquisition they would not jump ship and protestMay 16 00:07
schestowitz!google msft-mini skypeMay 16 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mini-Microsoft | http://minimsft.blogspot.com/May 16 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mini-Microsoft: Skype? Steve Ballmer Discovers a Way to Obliterate ... | http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2011/05/skype-steve-ballmer-discovers-way-to.htmlMay 16 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Three Things Microsoft Needs from Skype | Benzinga.com | http://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/long-ideas/11/05/1075915/three-things-microsoft-needs-from-skype-msftMay 16 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - ARMY AAPL ADBE CPQ GTW DELL HWP MOT MACR IBM INTC MSFT SYMC PIXR ... | http://finance.yahoo.com/q%3Fs%3Darmy%2Baapl%2Badbe%2Bcpq%2Bgtw%2Bdell%2Bhwp%2Bmot%2Bmacr%2Bibm%2Bintc%2Bmsft%2Bsymc%2Bpixr%26d%3Dv1May 16 00:07
fcassiaroy: does the techrights bot rely on a pre-set database or does live queries on the WWWMay 16 00:07
schestowitzit's connected with php running itMay 16 00:08
schestowitzone of our members coded itMay 16 00:08
schestowitztony mancoMay 16 00:08
fcassianiceMay 16 00:08
schestowitzWhen he was in Portugal,  now he's in CanadaMay 16 00:08
schestowitzToby improved itMay 16 00:08
schestowitzSo that it also parses identica and twitterMay 16 00:08
fcassiaI think I´ll hang here often. ;)May 16 00:09
schestowitz http://twitter.com/akuckartz/statuses/69818368038944768twMay 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?May 16 00:09
fcassiado you charge an admission fee? :))May 16 00:09
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69678336309334017 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69679805561446401 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/69680035191209984May 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz My tweet to the FFII wasn't about swpats being valid in EU -- those app devs are targeted since they sell their apps in the US.May 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz However, concerning EU swpats, look at this: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/at-least-9-apple-patents-asserted.htmlMay 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: FOSS Patents: At least 9 Apple patents asserted against Nokia in UK and Germany are European software patents .::. Size~: 70 KBMay 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's interesting that the FFII did a factually grossly inaccurate press release on Barnes&Noble but is silent about Lodsys.May 16 00:09
schestowitzfcassia: it's free like free beerMay 16 00:09
schestowitzI have beer, tooMay 16 00:09
fcassiagood. :))May 16 00:09
schestowitzBut you'll have to fly over to the UKMay 16 00:10
schestowitzI'll take you for beerMay 16 00:10
schestowitzare you still in touch with Charlie?May 16 00:10
fcassiasorry, hate flyingMay 16 00:10
schestowitzHe has got semi-accurate going, didn't see you thereMay 16 00:10
schestowitzfcassia: Mother Nature feels the same wayMay 16 00:10
fcassia4 mins is the longest I´ve been on a flying pipeMay 16 00:10
fcassia40 minsMay 16 00:10
MinceR"blast. this is why i hate flying."May 16 00:10
schestowitzWe once had a monomaniacal troll here who bragged about his air milesMay 16 00:11
fcassiaCharlie is trying to survive with his semi-accurate.com I hope he succeeds.May 16 00:11
schestowitzMinceR: I'm all in favour of very rich people flyingMay 16 00:11
schestowitzThe problem is that they don't fly just upwards to spaceMay 16 00:12
fcassiaROFLMay 16 00:12
schestowitzOr... if they land, they usually have the private plane with evacuation planMay 16 00:12
MinceRthe problem with certain people taking trips to space is that they came backMay 16 00:12
fcassiathe Virgin exec is into flying contraptionsMay 16 00:12
MinceRthat m$ guy charles simonyi, for example.May 16 00:13
schestowitzMinceR: usually they diMay 16 00:13
schestowitz*doMay 16 00:13
schestowitzif not, they have insurance anywayMay 16 00:13
fcassiabtw: save the trouble and the wait, here´s what its like to land in BA http://geekgaucho.blip.tv/file/179236/May 16 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MD-83 Landing on Buenos Aires airport (Aeroparque) - As seen from Down Under - blip.tv .::. Size~: 36.34 KBMay 16 00:13
schestowitzWeird thing is, I cannot think of a single human sacrifice of an astronaurMay 16 00:13
schestowitzLike someone heroic to say, OK, just fly me one-way to Mars and I'll do my best while I'm thereMay 16 00:13
schestowitzThey always have to play the "humane" card in NASAMay 16 00:14
schestowitzTo get fundingMay 16 00:14
fcassiarecorded by me 4yrs ago. last time I was in a plane, for 40 mins, thank the heavens.May 16 00:14
schestowitzIt makes no sense to come bakcMay 16 00:14
schestowitzOr to send experimental robots they build in univrsities with limited testingMay 16 00:14
schestowitzLots of good people would gladly give away their life to help study marsMay 16 00:14
schestowitzsuits can be made to survive there for a while and run tests in tubesMay 16 00:15
schestowitzI'd fly without hesitationMay 16 00:15
fcassiawell NASA is still better than this idea of shutting it down and the privatization of spaceMay 16 00:15
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVnaVRrVjwkMay 16 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - You're All Going To Die (But First, You Get Answers) .::. Size~: 126.48 KBMay 16 00:15
schestowitzfcassia: we're not designed for airMay 16 00:16
schestowitzPeople don't flyMay 16 00:16
schestowitzThey just walk on something that doesMay 16 00:16
schestowitzHaving drunks and stuffMay 16 00:16
schestowitzTaking a dump in a chamberMay 16 00:16
fcassiayet, there´s this thought about government agencies doing "space research" being highly paid employees on my tax pesos, sitting on desks doing nothing, most of the time. ;)May 16 00:16
schestowitzAnd pretending it's some crummy lobby where you have to wear belts and count the centimeters of everythingMay 16 00:17
schestowitzUnderwater we're more equipped to, but only for short periods of timeMay 16 00:17
schestowitzWe can swim with penguins and stuffMay 16 00:17
schestowitzit's good for the skin, tooMay 16 00:17
fcassiawell, I must go now. dinner time. ttyal. May 16 00:18
fcassiathanks for the help wrt AMZNMay 16 00:18
schestowitzfcassia: is your n800  still lodged in Gates' belly?May 16 00:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1029568/bill-gates-creates-perfect-accessory-for-linux-tabletsMay 16 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill gates creates perfect accessory for linux tablets- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 58.61 KBMay 16 00:20
schestowitzFound it...May 16 00:20
schestowitzhttp://www.bigredandshiny.com/issues/issue01/pix/article/SCHMIDT_THE_CELL_BLOCK_131345_03.jpgMay 16 00:21
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMay 16 00:21
fcassiaLOLMay 16 00:25
fcassiayes works like a charmMay 16 00:25
fcassiastill have to install full debian into it. its still running stock maemoMay 16 00:26
cubezzzah now I rememberMay 16 00:26
cubezzzdesquamation can occur if you're in the water too longMay 16 00:26
cubezzzso water is only healthy up to a pointMay 16 00:27
cubezzzalso drinking too much water is bad May 16 00:27
fcassiattyal byeMay 16 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: The week in review – ending Sunday 15/05/2011 http://tinyurl.com/6cbp376 - Theres wintrolls, $ype and Facepalm inside!May 16 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The week in review – ending Sunday 15/05/2011 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 36.53 KBMay 16 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just noticed, #RIAA is a typo away from #IRA #fbMay 16 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK-Negligence at Microsoft,Not ‘Market Share’,Causes Major Technical Problems http://tinyurl.com/6fzqljt !microsoft !windows !mvpbuzz !mvpMay 16 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Negligence at Microsoft, Not ‘Market Share’, Causes Major Technical Problems | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.56 KBMay 16 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @97linux Dropbox Accused of Lying About Security http://p.ost.im/p/cdQM8 #techMay 16 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dropbox Accused of Lying About Security - Slashdot .::. Size~: 56.83 KBMay 16 00:46
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schestowitz"[PJ: This is so charming. I left a comment saying so, and I've asked if we can place it and the graphic on Groklaw. Also I told him that on Monday I'll be annoucing who will be taking over. Groklaw lives, y'all. Groklaw 2.0. Stay tuned.] "May 16 00:49
schestowitzSo she refutes her claim that the site would endMay 16 00:50
schestowitzPublicity stunt?May 16 00:50
schestowitzAnyway, good newsMay 16 00:50
schestowitzhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385394,00.aspMay 16 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Burson-Marsteller Caught Deleting Facebook Criticism; Facebook Delivers Statement | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 84.85 KBMay 16 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Playing with Qt Creator in Natty but this bug (http://is.gd/7AVWJa) is getting in the way of me getting anywhere. #ubuntuMay 16 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug #752713 in qtcreator (Ubuntu): “Can't access Qt creator design mode” .::. Size~: 38.05 KBMay 16 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] What a fun place to waste time on a Sunday afternoon: http://distrowatch.com/May 16 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 138.64 KBMay 16 00:59
schestowitz_Goblin: it's out there nowMay 16 01:04
schestowitzgot the notes?May 16 01:05
_Goblinnot yetMay 16 01:05
_Goblindid a post....May 16 01:05
_Goblinmaybe tomorrow morning nowMay 16 01:05
schestowitzok, same hereMay 16 01:05
schestowitzMonday when people are not restingMay 16 01:05
schestowitzbut..May 16 01:05
schestowitzIf you wanna listen:May 16 01:06
_Goblinwhat we calling it?May 16 01:06
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/TechBytes/techbytes0046.mp3"May 16 01:06
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundMay 16 01:06
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/TechBytes/techbytes0046.mp3May 16 01:06
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_Goblincheers!May 16 01:06
schestowitzTechBytes Episode 46: GNU/Linux in Germany, Android's Openness, and MoreMay 16 01:06
schestowitz_Goblin: are we staring a fourth show?May 16 01:06
_Goblin?May 16 01:07
schestowitzpair, bytesme, guests, video...May 16 01:07
schestowitz*bytemeMay 16 01:07
_GoblinI supposeMay 16 01:07
schestowitzok, goodMay 16 01:07
schestowitzallows people to choose what to excludeMay 16 01:07
schestowitzbased on topics/focus/length/density/etcMay 16 01:07
schestowitzHave you had the change to work on the site?May 16 01:08
_Goblinnot yet....May 16 01:08
_GoblinI will spend some time making correctionsMay 16 01:08
_Goblin*changesMay 16 01:08
schestowitzokMay 16 01:08
schestowitzwell, I like how it goesMay 16 01:08
_GoblinI would like to get a Bytes Media banner done......May 16 01:08
schestowitzit's your site, you can add to it too if you likeMay 16 01:08
_Goblin:)May 16 01:09
schestowitzok, proper bannerMay 16 01:09
schestowitzwas gonna ask you to do oneMay 16 01:09
schestowitzI reused one from the videosMay 16 01:09
_Goblinyeah, Ive hopefully got some help on that.....May 16 01:09
schestowitzwallclimber does graphicsMay 16 01:09
_GoblinIm not an artistMay 16 01:09
schestowitzI can ask herMay 16 01:09
_Goblinthat would be good....May 16 01:09
schestowitzwe may also want to do ep #2 of videoMay 16 01:10
schestowitzBTW, a journalist was here earlierMay 16 01:10
schestowitzMaking use of the material in techrighs, which he praisedMay 16 01:10
_Goblinexcellent!May 16 01:11
_Goblinsorry I missed them.....May 16 01:11
schestowitzwhen will you record bytesme ep #1?May 16 01:12
schestowitzbytemeMay 16 01:12
_GoblinIve done a few takes...hopefully soonMay 16 01:12
schestowitzWhatever you do, don't make it hosted like wordpress.com, it's a lockin of sortsMay 16 01:12
_Goblinits just we cover so much stuff on the show, its difficult not to repeatMay 16 01:12
schestowitzAnd the 'cloud' ca vanishMay 16 01:12
cubezzzbut if you have your own server...May 16 01:13
cubezzzyou have the powaMay 16 01:13
schestowitzyes, we do...May 16 01:13
schestowitzunlimited bandwidth, tooMay 16 01:14
cubezzzvery coolMay 16 01:14
schestowitzSince this morning we got 1000 non-cached ogg hitsMay 16 01:15
schestowitz56 mpsMay 16 01:15
schestowitzmp3sMay 16 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] MT @ioerror I am reminded of "If not you, who? If not now, when?" Leaving is letting the bastards win. Fuck that noise; this is my country.May 16 01:17
_Goblin:)May 16 01:21
_Goblinright, I'm retiring for the nightMay 16 01:21
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cubezzzpwdMay 16 01:24
cubezzztchMay 16 01:24
schestowitzThistleWeb: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5798/125/May 16 01:47
TechrightsBot-tr@: May 16 01:47
schestowitzSo... if you have some memory anywhere... you need to pay some scam 'company' which  pretends to represent "artists" to argue for this extortionMay 16 01:47
schestowitzNo wonder some people walk away to Creative CommonwMay 16 01:47
schestowitz*CommonsMay 16 01:48
schestowitzBu they too need to buy storage devices... and pay the MAFIAAMay 16 01:48
schestowitzThistleWeb: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/13/ive-started-so-ill-finish/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ive-started-so-ill-finishMay 16 01:52
schestowitzmumlbeMay 16 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror I am reminded of "If not you, who? If not now, when?" Leaving is letting the bastards win. F*** that noise; this is my country.May 16 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 46 Brings Rusty and Gordon http://is.gd/NYMgQj http://is.gd/bQ1o0g #android #skype #swpats #linux #sonyMay 16 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 46 Brings Rusty and Gordon http://is.gd/NYMgQj http://is.gd/bQ1o0g #psn #copyright #sip #voipMay 16 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 46 Brings Rusty and Gordon http://is.gd/NYMgQj http://is.gd/bQ1o0gMay 16 02:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] levei o !gnu pra reunião do coletivo Universidade Popular da Unicamp na Flaskô, fábrica sob controle dos operáriosMay 16 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] foi legal discutir !SoftwareLivre com UP e Flaskô, mas foi um saudável choque conhecer mais sobre outros grandes problemas sociaisMay 16 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Facebook Actualmente Propiedad Parcial de Microsoft Está Haciendo Su Trabajo Sucio ... http://is.gd/lwP48zMay 16 02:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Hidden under a huge steaming pile of good intentions and blunders is an elegant, expressive programming language" !q Crockford !jsMay 16 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] moved from #mysql to #mongodb, which makes a lot more sense for a #QA system.May 16 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: #Windows es Cada Vez Menos Seguro a Través del Tiempo Mientras que #GNU #Linux Crece Cada Vez Más http://is.gd/pNxBBnMay 16 02:57
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GoForbes28helloMay 16 03:08
GoForbes28hi schestowitzMay 16 03:13
GoForbes28hi thistlewebMay 16 03:18
ThistleWebo/May 16 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] @sebsebseb No, just my cloak, im still technically a member.May 16 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] My puppy is bugging me. I think he wants to go for a walk. No way Sam. My leg is killing me, and it's raining.May 16 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] ELPA Technologies, is organising 4 week summer training on Introduction to FOSS/Linux and Open Technology - http://elpacorp.com/training/May 16 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @boycottnovell #TechBytes Episode 46 Brings Rusty and Gordon http://is.gd/NYMgQj http://is.gd/bQ1o0g #psn #copyright #sip #voipMay 16 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Speaking at OSBC: If you’re at the Open Source Business Conference OSBC in San Francisco today and tomorrow, you... http://wmk.me/jGtjwZMay 16 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :DMay 16 05:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night @diablomarcusMay 16 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] falling asleep at the keyboard, time to call it a night, IdentiverseMay 16 06:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I thought it was the obvious question. ;)May 16 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ruskin147 @charlesarthur Breaking - UK government to recruit former Obama adminstration #opendata chief Beth Noveck >>fab move if trueMay 16 07:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hoping this isn't chickenpox, waiting for an available doctor.May 16 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] A nurse just set me apart, as I'm sure to have it. Damn... Poor @lilbernie, I guess he's next...May 16 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] BackTrack 5 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/backtrack-5-released/May 16 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @lxnews BackTrack 5 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/backtrack-5-released/May 16 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The $25 Computer http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/the-25-dollar-computer/May 16 08:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh no. The big fat penguin walks around in Zagreb at #dorscluc :-)May 16 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Downloading Backtrack 5 Gnome 64 bit. Let's see what the Pentester's Toolbox has to offer this time. Huge iso though! 2GB ^^May 16 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Waiting for Shuttleworth to open #dorscluc. Let's see what he has to say. I expect nothing new, however.May 16 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Even distribution of Linex laptops/netbooks and iPads AFAICS at #dorsclucMay 16 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Daer @dorscluc - you rock! Not only tasty coffee but working! fast! wireless! #SoHappyMay 16 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Finally. A true solution for us time zone junkies. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/May 16 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @lxnews Orignal article was from here: http://www.geek.com/articles/games/game-developer-david-braben-creates-a-usb-stick-pc-for-25-2011055/May 16 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WorldTimeBuddy.com - Ridiculously easy world times and meetings across time zones! .::. Size~: 29.71 KBMay 16 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Canonical is all about harmony and unity :-)May 16 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] The one thing I don't like about #Fringe is all M$ logos on there laptops #LinuxMay 16 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Canonical's Board Decimated As 2 More Employees Leave http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/canonicals-board-decimated/May 16 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh I don't bother chasing up who originally broke the story. I don't have the time to do it and it's nearly impossible in tech news.May 16 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @lxnews I think this is a good indication of what is to come for Canonical and how many people are unimpressed with their direction.May 16 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just looked at the python-storm page; "Contributions must have copyright assigned to Canonical <http://is.gd/xofAIs>" For fuck sake!May 16 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @gbraad: just looked at the python-storm page; "Contributions must have copyright assigned to Canonical <http://is.gd/xofAIs>"May 16 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My update tweets/dents from #dorscluc suffe a it from my language barrier :-)May 16 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] But prizes are now handed over. Congrats! #dorsclucMay 16 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] The DataLift Project (http://datalift.org/en/) presented at #W3CAC by @rtroncyMay 16 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ofcourse MarkS starts with reference to his space trip ;-) #dorsclucMay 16 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Open presentation so to say at #dorscluc in front of a nice bluescreen ;-)May 16 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] MarkS in space. #dorsclucMay 16 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !techbytes 46 out now.May 16 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I see irony in using a !Microsoft acquisition to produce a show highlighting the benefits of moving away from Windows. !skype !techbytesMay 16 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Diagnosis: chickenpox. Great! NOT!May 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Of course lets not forget, this is a !microsoft purchase not a microsoft innovation.Any future success will be thanks to the Skype groundingMay 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth: Free SW was technologists, Ubuntu is for the people.May 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth: Computer is social device, not working device. #dorsclucMay 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gbraad just looked at the python-storm page; "Contributions must have copyright assigned to Canonical <http://is.gd/xofAIs>" For fuc ...May 16 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ubuntu is end-user focused acc to Shuttleworth. #dorsclucMay 16 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth explains Cadence, Release focus of people v devs #dorsclucMay 16 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth thinks Ubuntu has invented releases ;-) #dorsclucMay 16 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Good morning all. One of the busiest weeks ahead w/ #samba - !FSFE hearing early next week. To get started, strong #needcoffee.May 16 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth: Cadence, Design leads to bright future AFAICS. #dorsclucMay 16 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth presentation style is quite apple-ish. One slide, one word. #dorsclucMay 16 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth, slide 3. Quality. #dorsclucMay 16 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems there is a timezone problem in Zagreb. Why can't those people come in time? This noise is #disturbing and rude. #dorsclucMay 16 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth has learned that QA/QE actually is useful. #dorsclucMay 16 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttelworth claims lack of testsuites esp. wrt multiarch. Hm. #RHT has that since years ;-) #dorsclucMay 16 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Whole Shuttleworth story sounds like Red Hat story 5 years ago. History repeating? #dorsclucMay 16 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Chilling Story of Genius in a Land of Chronic Unemployment - http://tcrn.ch/my4iMv another fine piece on Nigeria by @sarahcudaMay 16 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @diritto2punto0 New Blog Post: Dropbox ha ingannato gli utenti sulla sicurezza? http://ow.ly/4UYq8 #cloudcomputingMay 16 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth "UDS is sort of contributor summit" hm. methought it was developers? #dorsclucMay 16 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth wants more proprietary SW to run on Ubuntu. Oracle? IBM? #dorsclucMay 16 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttlewroth effectively now explains Red Hats business model ;-) #dorsclucMay 16 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttlewroth blames trolls and falmewars for not nmore FOSS from proprietary companies. #dorsclucMay 16 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BlueGriffon 1.0 Released: #OpenSource WYSIWYG #Web Editing Comes Back to #Linux - http://bit.ly/lJzheS good to haveMay 16 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ‘Yes We Ban!’ — Turks Protest Internet #Censorship - http://on.wsj.com/inbh8k coming to a Europe near you? #turkeyMay 16 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Socail challenges are bigger then tech challenges. Shuttleworth is right with that angle. #dorsclucMay 16 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OK. Will give a completely diff presentation tmrw as planned. Let's go deep into Open on many levels. #dorsclucMay 16 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Weaver2World Nvu didn't die, it just transposed into very able competition to BlueGriffon: http://tinyurl.com/3dyn4g >>aka KompoZerMay 16 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @NeelieKroesEU Remember to join me for a tweetchat on Wed 18 May 2pm when I'll answer your Qs. Use #AskNeelie. >>go for it, peopleMay 16 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth promotes dual licensing as it delivers more free software the communit yotherwise wouldn't get. #dorsclucMay 16 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will Flexible Grids Lead to 3D Printed Cloth? - http://bit.ly/m6GRVR this will be big #3dprintingMay 16 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttlewroth claims Libreoffice effectivley killed OpenOffice by fighting with Oracle. #dorsclucMay 16 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China’s first “100 Excellent Ethnic Books Recommendation” campaign launched - http://bit.ly/ioOhFP wonder what the Tibetan books will beMay 16 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Windows Guy Goes #Linux http://is.gd/jzWCu4 "In case you are a new TNW reader, I am a card-carrying Windows fanboy."May 16 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE PIM 4.6 RC1 http://is.gd/KGK8FFMay 16 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] End One Man / One Vote; Shift to Age-Weighted Voting - http://bit.ly/iPN6bS provocative much? #psephologyMay 16 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian 6.0: #KDE 4 http://is.gd/Cnjklz "Xorg is consuming 18% of my available RAM. Oink!"May 16 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've been omitting many links recently if they are unity rants. Truth is, bloggers I trust hate unity, Canonical messed up royally.May 16 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuttleworth claims that Gnome Shell copied from Unity after they released it. So Gnome Shell should thank Canonical, I guess? #dorsclucMay 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spanish Congress passes the Law on Science, Technology and Innovation with #OpenAccess Mandate - http://bit.ly/mrUyBw pity about #leysindeMay 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Practical Alternatives to #Skype (For Me) http://is.gd/HsLszC spent 3 hours yesterday testing recording over #SIP (video and audio). !tbMay 16 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 46: GNU/Linux in Germany, Android’s Openness, and More http://is.gd/l5U79p Show notes out soonMay 16 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Some good points by Shuttleworth but also some of the typical statements. Overall, quite OK. #dorsclucMay 16 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Missing the whol epatent/open standards part but will happily provide that part tmrw. #dorsclucMay 16 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #GRUB 1.99 Released; So Close To Version 2.0 http://is.gd/rWqlBV GNU #Fdisk 1.2.5 released http://is.gd/vKe0UmMay 16 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Intellectual Ventures behind #Apple iOS in-app purchase lawsuit threats? We think so. - http://bit.ly/jhegxa good be big #patenttrollsMay 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] "Tag better, expose better, learn better." @olivierthereaux (BBC) concluding a "get linked data out" talk at #W3CACMay 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #JuK facelift http://is.gd/st6oNT "...spend like a couple weeks fixing things like text alignment and margins all over KDE." #kdeMay 16 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Boarding SQ918 to Manila for IBM/RH event tomorrow at Shangrila Makati. Looking forward to meeting Fedora Ambassadors as well.May 16 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Caveman Is Coming For #GNU #Linux http://is.gd/ir4bo0 because it's a growing userbaseMay 16 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Wikipedia Stats that show 2.53%, [for #gnu #linux ] and that’s only in the English-speaking world." http://is.gd/vEzubZMay 16 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Good. Shuttleworth agrees with me that #swpat are problematic. #dorsclucMay 16 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice one. Dhuttleworth: Patents makes sense in fields where you can keep a secret. That's why SWPAT have to fail. #melikes. #dorsclucMay 16 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chernobyl's 20,000-30,000 Fatalities - http://bit.ly/jO7pkS NYT's, er, "tortured" logic... #nuclearpowerMay 16 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Facebook Hires PR Firm to Spread FUD About Google http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/facebook-spreads-fud-about-google/May 16 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What I like about Shuttleworth - he has an opinion. And he voices it. Not that typical wishiwashi that effectively says nothing. #dorsclucMay 16 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Kubuntu Council? What is this? http://is.gd/sXLtKu "Every year the Kubuntu community gets to elect 3 new members for the Kubuntu council."May 16 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody #Chernobyl's 20,000-30,000 Fatalities - http://bit.ly/jO7pkS NYT's, er, "tortured" logic... #nuclearpowerMay 16 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra check this out: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13407712 :)May 16 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bitcoin #P2P #Currency: The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen - http://bit.ly/izPPE9 #bitcoin getting seriously hotMay 16 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody #NYT is not in the business of science reporting, it's in the business of selling Pentagon #line and papers, just like FoxMay 16 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW dear followers. I am openly biased when reporting bout Shutlleworth as I work for Red Hat. Take that into account when reading #dorsclucMay 16 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ISO image for #GNOME3 promo DVD available for download http://is.gd/oPrCBA #ubuntu lovers who hate #unity might want to wait for #Fedora 15May 16 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 163 million downloads on 2011-05-16 08:52 UTCMay 16 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The mystery of the missing wi-fi in #Mageia / #Mandriva http://is.gd/INoToR "Now, I'm posting this entry using the wi-fi in Mageia"May 16 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @schestowitz: I#GNOME3 promo DVD image available at http://is.gd/oPrCBA #ubuntu lovers who hate #unity might want to wait for #Fedora 15May 16 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Considerations on Mondorescue packaging for #Mageia http://is.gd/9CaVKo "it just affect the mondo package. All the others are already sane."May 16 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox 4 Pulls Farther Ahead of #IE9 - http://bit.ly/mO4Is6 my, that's a pretty graph you have there... #mozillaMay 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @glynmoody #Firefox 4 Pulls Farther Ahead of #IE9 - http://bit.ly/mO4Is6 my, that's a pretty graph you have there... #mozillaMay 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Studio says no to Unity, adopts Xfce http://is.gd/W4Mlq5 saying a mouthful without having to actually say much. #unityMay 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @hook ♻ @glynmoody: Bitcoin P2P Currency: The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen - http://bit.ly/izPPE9 !bitcoin getting seriously hotMay 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/adobe-creative-suite-on-linux/May 16 10:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: L019: Bitcoin P2P Currency: The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen - Launch - .::. Size~: 87.84 KBMay 16 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux .::. Size~: 28.38 KBMay 16 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz: GNOME3 promo DVD image available at http://is.gd/oPrCBA ubuntu lovers who hate unity might want to wait for Fedora 15May 16 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lxnews Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/adobe-creative-suite-on-linux/May 16 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical's Engineering Director studied Philosophy and Human Factors Engineering http://is.gd/AEgw2P they need *coders*, this ain't MSFT.May 16 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frederic Crozat blog: ISO image for GNOME3 promo DVD available for download .::. Size~: 45.9 KBMay 16 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux .::. Size~: 28.38 KBMay 16 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rick Spencer  | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 48.98 KBMay 16 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] My response to OMG Ubuntu: Let's help the people that are helping us instead of worrying about Adobe! http://outl.ws/10 !fedoradesign !loMay 16 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Bitcoin #P2P #Currency: The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen - http://bit.ly/izPPE9 #bitcoin getting seriously hotMay 16 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Pulls Farther Ahead of #IE9 http://is.gd/ybp38x because it's better. Friends of who don't even know what OSS is choose Firefox.May 16 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe Has No Plans to Offer Creative Suite on Linux .::. Size~: 28.38 KBMay 16 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: L019: Bitcoin P2P Currency: The Most Dangerous Project We've Ever Seen - Launch - .::. Size~: 87.84 KBMay 16 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Asa Dotzler: Firefox and more: Firefox 4 Pulls Farther Ahead of IE9 .::. Size~: 14.51 KBMay 16 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How the Internet is Revolutionizing #Education - http://tnw.co/kEdLFK some basic resources #opencourseware #openculture #khanMay 16 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How the Internet is Revolutionizing Education - TNW Industry .::. Size~: 111.36 KBMay 16 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu gnome remix shaping up; now install with a script http://is.gd/K3FLeZ for those who like things how they used to beMay 16 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora and #Ubuntu are getting the Butter on our File systems... http://is.gd/dLiR5mMay 16 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu gnome remix shaping up; now install with a script « Justin Stories .::. Size~: 38.33 KBMay 16 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora and Ubuntu are getting the Butter on our File systems... - Linux News - Linux Install Network .::. Size~: 37.45 KBMay 16 10:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/70049908010397696May 16 10:08
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz a sad come-down...May 16 10:08
schestowitzThe New York Times must still be heavily in debt, so it needs to sell *someone's* agendaMay 16 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Later today #Groklaw will announce "Groklaw 2.0" (PJ's words). I thought she said articles would end, she must have changed her mind.May 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Number Line http://xkcd.com/899/May 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Chrome's Sandbox Has Been Cracked http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/chrome-sandbox-cracked/May 16 10:09
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MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/1997-05-02/May 16 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 27.49 KBMay 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody A few decades ago: New York Times fights against power and helps end #Vietnam war. Decades later: same paper is *selling* a war.May 16 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] War is the most profitable contract.May 16 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] this account hardly covers non-technical issues at this stage. Does anyone object? Should non-tech stuff be reinstated?May 16 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody How the Internet is Revolutionizing #Education - http://tnw.co/kEdLFK some basic resources #opencourseware #openculture #khanMay 16 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Ich kann durch alles durchgehen, außer durch Porzellan." LOL #NichtLustig http://outl.ws/11May 16 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I believe it was Mark Shuttleworth who said that GNU/Linux should not imitate the competition to win.It sure looks like Ubuntu imitates OSuXMay 16 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Computer Centers in West Virginia's Volunteer Fire Stations http://is.gd/KZndG5 #gnu #linux in public servicesMay 16 10:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Computer Centers in West Virginia's Volunteer Fire Stations | PCWorld .::. Size~: 103.25 KBMay 16 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @nj3ma "@ngeny: RT @Joliea: Ubuntu rocks! ~ YES indeed!!"May 16 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Perhaps #Canonical can just relabel !Kubuntu "Linux for human beings" and make existing #Ubuntu 11.04 "Linux for tablets". Would make sense.May 16 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canonical reassures us that people will eventually love #unity and this may be true. But it does not acknowledge some genuine grievances.May 16 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chromebook: the good and the bad http://is.gd/6ifyvQ #Linux as carrier of #FogComputing lock-in and predatory contracts. Iffy that one...May 16 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why free should not always mean cost-free http://is.gd/LxrmNz easier to control one's spendings when there is freedom. Fair pricing, will.May 16 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Notes from : Nagios World Conference Europe - 2011 http://is.gd/x4Axwj #Nagios helps many companies save a lot of moneyMay 16 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who maintains RPM? (2011 edition) http://is.gd/jwr2pg "in recent months; the Mandriva 2011 plans include a switch to rpm5." #rpm #redhatMay 16 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Getting out the Data - http://bit.ly/k1Yw7v more good noises on #opendata from @NeelieKroesEU #euMay 16 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Enlightenment Special Edition of The #PCLinuxOS Magazine released http://is.gd/djVwMQ one of the best distros to move people from WinXP to.May 16 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Canonical’s Board Decimated As 2 More Employees Leave http://bit.ly/jElQY3 /by @fabshMay 16 10:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting out the Data «  Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 37.81 KBMay 16 10:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pinguy S 11.04 Released With Classic #GNOME 2.32.1 Desktop http://is.gd/NN7hVt based on #Ubuntu but without #unity (notice a trend yet?)May 16 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Howto: Linux on your wireless router http://is.gd/RJ4nEz many of them already come with #linux anyway, just not hackableMay 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pinguy OS 11.04 Released With Classic GNOME 2.32.1 Desktop ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 72.88 KBMay 16 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Howto: Linux on your wireless router - Flavio's Technotalk .::. Size~: 57.82 KBMay 16 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you want to hurt the euro and the IMF, a staged sexual scandal is a good way. Errr wait ...May 16 10:44
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73606987May 16 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 09:38:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It takes a small hack for a router to become a freedombox ;-)May 16 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Salix #Xfce 13.37 http://is.gd/EqPArL "There is also full source tree in the Salix 13.37 repositories, for all software packaged by Salix."May 16 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Markets Today for the Nokia N900 - Yahoo! Finance stock quotes on your desktop: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7254 #N900 #MaemoMay 16 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Inner-Spin - simple and addictive game for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7255 #N900 #MaemoMay 16 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 16 May 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #N900May 16 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux/Android mini-PC debuts HD-ready Marvell PXA510 SoC http://is.gd/ERgYcd #linux #embedded #android #deviceMay 16 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux/Android mini-PC debuts HD-ready Marvell PXA510 SoC - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.18 KBMay 16 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm only 1 user so it doesn't matter but I'm losing patience w/ Mark S prevaricating abt the !Ubuntu contrib agreement http://bit.ly/lxF6jTMay 16 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What might matter more is how the disenchantment with !Ubuntu's !Unity is spreading beyond the usual grumblers like me http://bit.ly/jPrYpIMay 16 10:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Unity made me fall out of love with Ubuntu | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 45.9 KBMay 16 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Strange things happen in bankerland. Remember killing of Herrhausen, strange stuff around Duisenberg death and now DSK.May 16 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice quote. "I hear you, but I do not listen." Wim Duisenberg.May 16 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu Studio says no to Unity, adopts !Xfce !KDE, GNOME 3 also given cold shoulder http://bit.ly/mbV0z0May 16 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kanotix Hellfire 2011-05 is out http://is.gd/C1fh0sMay 16 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Studio says no to Unity, adopts Xfce - Xfce, unity, Ubuntu Studio, ubuntu, open source, multimedia, Linux, gnome - CIO .::. Size~: 81.96 KBMay 16 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kanotix Hellfire 2011-05 :: kanotix.com :: GNU Linux Live system based on Debian, optimized for HD-install and high performance .::. Size~: 13.64 KBMay 16 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] George Osborne on #opendata and #opengovernment - http://bit.ly/l7IZek good to see they're still talking the talk #ukMay 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2011-05-09: version 0.9.7 of live.linux-gamers.net released! http://live.linux-gamers.net/ for those who think that #gnu #linux has no gamesMay 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Renewed my annual #fellowship subscription. !FSFEMay 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (1) I'm a bit disapointed by the childish Unity and "Ubuntu MacOS X copycat" sneers. I hapen to Love it http://twitpic.com/4ydvmt# #ubuntuMay 16 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Speech by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rt Hon George Osborne MP, at Google Zeitgeist 2011 - HM Treasury .::. Size~: 38.08 KBMay 16 11:04
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: I'm quite impressed by Unity. Here's my Laptop&#039... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 13.29 KBMay 16 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: Manpg.es: Section numbers now supported http://goo.gl/vkhAg !uMay 16 11:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Manpg.es: Section numbers now supported .::. Size~: 51.94 KBMay 16 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 12 handy #OpenOffice Writer tips http://is.gd/3kZDFX [I only ever use it to read some things people may send me. Office suites are bloated.May 16 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2) If you dislike Unity, you have the option to choose another desktop Shell or even a complete different DE. #ubuntuMay 16 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BBC propaganda (it's like reading it straight from the MPAA/RIAA): http://is.gd/9TeHYI no discussion of the real point. #msbbc #failMay 16 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] First thing on #LibreOffice presentation at #dorscluc: refutes Shuttleworth claims ;-)May 16 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When you label one side "terrorists", then that side is already the bad one. When one side is called "pirates", then too it's assumed rogue.May 16 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cartels=good; Sharing=bad; Colonialism=good; independence=bad; Servitude=good; Freedom=bad; Religion=good; Science=bad.May 16 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The inadequacy of US labeling laws and how people are trying to fix them. http://is.gd/TXAMIxMay 16 11:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Say What? A Chemical Can Damage Your Lungs, Liver and Kidneys and Still Be Labeled "Non-Toxic"? | Environment | AlterNet .::. Size~: 104.32 KBMay 16 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (3) Its all about personal preference. Isn't choice a great thing? #ubuntuMay 16 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @williamheath @michaelcross: Noveck dislikes 'institutionalised practices of confidential decision-making' http://bit.ly/kpuOFI >>funMay 16 11:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government lures US open data guru .::. Size~: 45.33 KBMay 16 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Good. Shuttleworth agrees with me that #swpat are problematic. #dorscluc << but how is that news?May 16 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Presenting #NoSQL , #NewSQL and Beyond at #OSBC http://is.gd/b1UE6f "Next Monday [today], May 16, I will be hosting session" #db #fossMay 16 11:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » Presenting NoSQL, NewSQL and Beyond at OSBC .::. Size~: 41.76 KBMay 16 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What a rainy, miserable day! Perfect for staying in and working all day....May 16 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "sample exceeding 15 billion pageviews per month" http://is.gd/IUe0gC But *what* pages? They don't say. Proprietary data. #badstatsMay 16 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There are those who *choose* to misinterpret stats, e.g. with population bias http://gs.statcounter.com/ http://is.gd/5OSMRk bad subsetMay 16 11:24
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TechrightsBot-tr@Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 10:19:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz not news, I am jst reporting from #dorscluc where I met him for first time.May 16 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Net Applications, which IDG and other Wintel press love to quote, pretends that China is a minuscule country. This is a recipe for fakery.May 16 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] From what I see, #LibreOffice is in quite an healthy state, despite all bashing. #dorsclucMay 16 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In j. papers, graphs get scrutiny, error bars, URL to raw data. In corporate press, graphs get visual effects, no scrutiny, put on pedestal.May 16 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Send us your desktop photos for Linux Format magazine! http://tinyurl.com/6evynrwMay 16 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Our graphs are just some fun nonsense for flamewars, but hey, look at how we made them interactive with shiiiny effects. Hire us! Please!"May 16 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Send us your desktop! | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 14.55 KBMay 16 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Ryan Paul from #Ars on vacation? No article in almost a week. He used to do several per day. Ars has slowed down. Used to be a good site.May 16 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Want to help #LibreOffice? Pick your task here: http://ur1.ca/46y3w #dorsclucMay 16 11:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Development/Easy Hacks Complete List - The Document Foundation Wiki .::. Size~: 157.05 KBMay 16 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Introducing Technological Libertarianism http://bit.ly/ihNDQPMay 16 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reflections of the Evolution of Capitalism http://is.gd/odLTU9 interesting thoughts from the man who brought #Linux to IBM, came from CubaMay 16 11:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Reflections of the Evolution of Capitalism .::. Size~: 58.45 KBMay 16 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The #LibreOffice self-acclaimed old marketing guy at #dorscluc does a brilliant job!May 16 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Self-Perpetuating #Copyright Enforcement - http://bit.ly/iqJaFh why they prefer beating people in the courts to better business modelsMay 16 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Self-Perpetuating Copyright Enforcement .::. Size~: 73.68 KBMay 16 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 9 Great Alternatives to #Skype for #VoIP and Video Chat http://is.gd/JVq1kh but some don't work on free/libre platformsMay 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @guardianculture: What's your favourite SF novel? http://bit.ly/kch9L0 « Probably, The Very Slow Time Machine; got me into the genreMay 16 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9 Great Alternatives to Skype for VoIP and Video Chat: Online Collaboration « .::. Size~: 116.08 KBMay 16 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's your favourite SF novel? | Books | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 131.02 KBMay 16 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I’ve found someone to take on the mantle of Groklaw and do Groklaw 2.0. I’ll announce on Monday..." ~PJ http://is.gd/1Tzve2 #groklaw \0/May 16 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PJ, Goodbye and Good Luck .::. Size~: 28.28 KBMay 16 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose I shld pick summat better known tho @guardianculture which case; Welcome 2 the Monkey House. Billy The Poet; gr8 character!May 16 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] G8 vs Internet - http://bit.ly/kvEL1p "Our imaginations help us protect our rights & a free Internet" whose side are *you* on? (v @jerezim)May 16 11:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Ways to Exploit Raw Data May Bring Surge of Innovation, a Study Says http://is.gd/jno16E #opendata #scienceMay 16 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook's failed #Google smear: Stupidity squared http://is.gd/E0abn7 showed that Facebook & Microsoft are the same camp, same PR firms tooMay 16 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook Faces Lawsuit Over Unauthorized Sharing Of User Data With Advertisers http://is.gd/SrJ8B3 #Facebook also gives this data to #MSFTMay 16 11:44
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook's failed Google smear: Stupidity squared | Cringely - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 97.81 KBMay 16 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Faces Lawsuit Over Unauthorized Sharing Of User Data With Advertisers .::. Size~: 52.43 KBMay 16 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PJ (Groklaw) Goodbye and Good Luck http://bit.ly/jMALMo via @schestowitzMay 16 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google is being used to learn new things/ideas. #Facebook is being used to eavesdrop on people. B0ng is being... well, it's not being used.May 16 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting out the Data http://is.gd/qYCp0z by @NeelieKroesEU about Tim B-L and others. #opendata #parity #euMay 16 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@NeelieKroesEU is Heath Ryan your PA?May 16 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting out the Data «  Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 37.81 KBMay 16 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android gets a Netflix app! http://is.gd/jvXQyb after they said they would not support it. It's said they may also dump #silverlie for #htmlMay 16 11:51
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schestowitzrobsanchezMay 16 11:51
schestowitz@psuresh have you checked the !FSF recommended !Trisquel? It also has software in its repos that depend on #mono. (http://is.gd/ANMtxx) I uninstalled all mono-dependent default software and even added a command not to download/install mono.May 16 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @robsanchez have you checked the !FSF recommended !Trisquel? It also has software in its repos that depend on #mono. (http://is.gd/ANMtxx)May 16 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @robsanchez [...] I uninstalled all mono-dependent default software and even added a command not to download/install mono.May 16 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: There are Mono in the repository | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 15.04 KBMay 16 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How 2 Uni Friends Started DesignCrowd & Built a Multi-Million Dollar Business - http://tnw.co/jw98Je nice to see real success #crowdsourcingMay 16 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Two Uni Friends Started DesignCrowd & Built a Multi-Million Dollar Business - TNW Australia .::. Size~: 84.61 KBMay 16 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mtux The biggest change is that Qt 5 will be developed out in the open from day one. http://ur1.ca/4641hMay 16 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @johnsu01 Great article by Doctorow on activism and free software / technology: http://ur1.ca/42lqzMay 16 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer @schestowitz Is Cringely wearing a (red) fedora nowadays? ;-) His Notes From The Field Banner seems to indicate this ;-)May 16 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Announces Qt 5 Plans - Slashdot .::. Size~: 130.71 KBMay 16 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jwildeboer the startups he is helping must be using RHEL, but more likely he weats one for the same reason @tbray wears one (not Android)May 16 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@jwildeboer the "Cringely" who writes for IDG is not the 'real' one (Mark). He told me so by E-mail.May 16 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aristotle University of Thessaloniki joins the FTA http://is.gd/kxgrAU #freedom #educationMay 16 11:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FTA - Aristotle University of Thessaloniki joins the FTA | FTA - Free Technology Academy .::. Size~: 12.59 KBMay 16 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @smaffulli how can this be a priority or even important? use gmail over imap and live happy. Next topic, please http://is.gd/qsXmKSMay 16 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] With blisters all over, even inside the mouth, even down under right almost up... #tmi #bored Fever also rising again, time for pill.May 16 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The FSF's @mattl is targetting Google for the wrong reasons with #Gmail - the main problem right now is privacy and lockin, not JSMay 16 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @aurele "Democracy is sick in the US, government monitors your Internet" http://ur1.ca/44ixb < Russia (RT) mocks the US for civil rights..May 16 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz "I’ve found someone to take on the mantle of Groklaw and do Groklaw 2.0. I’ll announce on Monday..." ~PJ http://is.gd/1T ...May 16 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @sweet11 GNU means "Gnu's Not Ubuntu"May 16 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When something is different then it's worse even if it "is better" - that's what #linus said a few years back [...]May 16 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [...] when it turned out his parents use Windows #wsj #torvalds - might help explain the backlash against #unity and old #kde4 rantsMay 16 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #SIP Witch 1.0 released for peer-to-peer next gen #VoIP http://is.gd/gD0K4U thanks to @dfyetMay 16 12:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU Telephony  » Blog Archive   » GNU SIP Witch 1.0 released for peer-to-peer next gen VoIP .::. Size~: 8.19 KBMay 16 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Correction: it's @dyfet actuallyMay 16 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Skype Does VoIP IM Monitoring In China http://is.gd/5PTJha Bavarian government caught looking for Skype backdoor http://is.gd/r1bZO4 #spipeMay 16 12:16
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bavarian government caught looking for Skype backdoor .::. Size~: 36.14 KBMay 16 12:16
MinceRBavarian IlluminatiMay 16 12:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70082878607863808May 16 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz @mattl They´re mounting on RMS´ dislike of "Obfuscript" (sic). "Cloud Computing" is all about obscurity,deal w it #fogcomputingMay 16 12:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70083338773348352May 16 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz My definition of #Cloud Computing: "the Fine Art of Separating People from Their Software" #cloudcomputing #fogcomputing #ajaxMay 16 12:19
MinceRa fool and his software are soon parted?May 16 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. Ballmer might want to know what you did last summer. http://is.gd/pxakBn "the authorities... an unexpected partner: Microsoft itself."May 16 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fcassia My definition of #Cloud Computing: "the Fine Art of Separating People from Their Software" #cloudcomputing #fogcomputing #ajaxMay 16 12:21
*hemimaniac has quit (Quit: I got raided by CSIS and all i got to keep was this lousy QUIT message!!)May 16 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Russia Uses Microsoft to Suppress Dissent - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 58.16 KBMay 16 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Desktop YouTube app ‘Minitube’ sees bug fix release http://goo.gl/qWoj2May 16 12:23
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oiaohmMinceR: Cloud is more than parting you from your software.May 16 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Economist supports more money for #patent review to support more innovation. http://is.gd/hdmDtx like pumping more money into lost warMay 16 12:24
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oiaohmMinceR:  Its also parting you from your data.May 16 12:24
oiaohmMinceR: data is more valueable than software.May 16 12:24
MinceRi thought of adding that too, but i guessed the readers would :>May 16 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US cleaning company claims UK NGO cannot call themselves “eco labs” http://is.gd/265Jqt English hijacked, privatised http://is.gd/wOEPnNMay 16 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very #disturbing trend in the UK: loads of ISPs like #StalkStalk and #BT stalks their customers, build profiles, then sell those secretlyMay 16 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canadian company develop new flying #CCTV camera http://is.gd/WttjHD givs a *sense* of securityMay 16 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #WordPress 3.2 Drops IE 6 Support http://is.gd/6R4OlP #Microsoft held back web applications, experienceMay 16 12:33
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/11/virtualization_kvm_red_hat/May 16 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat's KVM: A better way to virtualize the data center? • The Register .::. Size~: 21.75 KBMay 16 12:39
schestowitzA client of ours moves to it...May 16 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @andyc sum Brits have bad memories of cricket, being the only sport at skool I was rlly crap at, always glad when summer was ovr :)May 16 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ben's prison blog: Just Chillin' http://is.gd/hFN6CxMay 16 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @andyc I was going to say it's common in English abroad and in Ireland actually, but not so much at home eg http://bo.st/kAIEDYMay 16 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Cullen: Wicket awesome -- Irish stunner over English one for the ages .::. Size~: 59.79 KBMay 16 12:44
schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/91_signs.jpgMay 16 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @andyc I've seen the usage countless times in the American press but never here - It's one of those strange phantom exports :)May 16 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fabsh @dickturpin I have three iPods that make me very happy with Rockbox. :)May 16 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @dickturpin No, weirdly perhaps; I can't say I've ever heard that form hereMay 16 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @andyc It's not unique tho. We all use Disgruntled, but Gruntled - the word it comes from - is rarely seen :)May 16 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thetecheye: #Nvidia says first run of !Android tablets too pricey - Not really selling, yet http://bit.ly/kDjzRW #hardwareMay 16 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Prepare to fire quantum torpedoes at @dickturpin!May 16 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had to load another keyboard on !android to use the pipe character #failMay 16 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Is there a !Faif software for !Android which can play videos via dlna?May 16 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Lack of Marketing Still Linux's Achilles Heel? http://is.gd/id2GV6 "...purists who cringe at the sheer mention of terms like "marketing""May 16 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @andyc There are, but I try to stay out of their way :)May 16 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is not unreasinable to be against #PR which is basically associated with manipulating people's thoughts and feelings, against their willMay 16 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who judge a product's merit based on its marketing impact will most likely overpay (for the marketing they subsidise, ~25% on avg.)May 16 12:58
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schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/SJb86/May 16 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Lodsys claims to supply building blocks but actually jeopardizes the entire mobile apps ecosystem - http://bit.ly/kLAAhc detailed analysisMay 16 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Lodsys claims to supply building blocks but actually jeopardizes the entire mobile apps ecosystem .::. Size~: 72.47 KBMay 16 13:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ccbuhr/status/70094375727792128May 16 13:03
TechrightsBot-tr@ccbuhr: @schestowitz he's her speechwriter and the one who's name got stuck in our wordpress set-up cc @NeelieKroesEUMay 16 13:04
schestowitzHehMay 16 13:04
schestowitzNeelie has a speech writer? I didn't know...May 16 13:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/70095472743825408May 16 13:04
TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz There is a strange middle ground though; the ones who work for  NGOs like Amnesty and Liberty. They're good guys basicallyMay 16 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Nokia wants to sell it's phone division to Microsoft? What will remain is an empty shell...May 16 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Man Beaten By Durham Regional #Police Tells His Story at #Toronto Freedom Festival May 7 11 http://is.gd/UuQ4ml #Canada CC @themadhatterMay 16 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Man Beaten By Durham Regional Police Tells His Story at Toronto Freedom Festival May 7 11.mp4 .::. Size~: 7.26 KBMay 16 13:04
MinceRhttp://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0059/1872/products/Too-hip-to-function_preview_large.jpgMay 16 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Keep Files From Showing Up In !Unity (Dash) Or Other Programs That Use #Zeitgeist With Activity Log Manager http://goo.gl/WivugMay 16 13:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Keep Files From Showing Up In Unity (Dash) Or Other Programs That Use Zeitgeist With Activity Log Manager ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 73.83 KBMay 16 13:16
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73615202May 16 13:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Carl-Christian Buhr (ccbuhr)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 12:07:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz he's her speechwriter and the one who's name got stuck in our wordpress set-up cc @NeelieKroesEUMay 16 13:20
schestowitzYes, that's what I thought. Seen that happen before...May 16 13:20
schestowitzThis guy works with NeelieMay 16 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Samsung Makes Cupholders http://is.gd/FyWDdj my new tea trayMay 16 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] !listening to Jet - Hearts on FireMay 16 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] File-Sharing Call to Arms: Sci-Fi Writer Needs Pirate Books http://is.gd/rYCAhFMay 16 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What a great soundbite: "Google Says Windows is Torturing Users" by Marcus Yam - http://bit.ly/mBVlw6May 16 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How To Lie With Statistics: #France Pretends #HADOPI Law Is Working - http://bit.ly/mrPNtj pretty pathetic attempt, it has to be saidMay 16 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's #Groklaw 2.0 - http://bit.ly/kALTwN be interesting to see what he makes of itMay 16 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Lie With Statistics: France Pretends HADOPI Law Is Working | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.76 KBMay 16 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The UK Treasury is the most cyber-attacked Govt. department with one attack a day - http://tnw.co/mgD2R3 *1*? statistically equal to zero...May 16 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @schiessle #Taz interview with @kirschner about #FreeSoftware and GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/46yeq (DE)(Currently most read article on t ...May 16 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] File-Sharing Call to Arms: Sci-Fi Writer Needs Pirate Books - http://bit.ly/lTr0IM pirates are just too *lazy*, it seemsMay 16 13:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Matthias Kirschner zu Linux und Co.: "Die Kosten sind wichtig" - taz.de .::. Size~: 72.84 KBMay 16 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thistleweb: File-Sharing Call to Arms: Sci-Fi Writer Needs Pirate Books http://is.gd/rYCAhFMay 16 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That Sound in the Distance Is #Skype's Funeral Dirge http://bit.ly/l5D9SI By Katherine NoyesMay 16 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: That Sound in the Distance Is Skype's Funeral Dirge .::. Size~: 61.84 KBMay 16 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Self-Perpetuating Copyright Enforcement http://is.gd/dSw716May 16 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Self-Perpetuating Copyright Enforcement .::. Size~: 73.68 KBMay 16 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm starting to spell the American way but that's OK, as long as I don't have to take any more English Exams that is :)May 16 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The next Linux Outlaws live show will take place tomorrow (Tuesday) at 13:00 UTC. Please pass the word.May 16 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sixgun: The next Linux Outlaws live show will take place tomorrow (Tuesday) at 13:00 UTC. Please pass the word. #LinuxOutlawsMay 16 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/5/2011: Many New Distro Releases, Netflix Comes To Android http://is.gd/Bi3xhY !techrightsMay 16 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 16/5/2011: Many New Distro Releases, Netflix Comes To Android http://is.gd/Bi3xhY #techrightsMay 16 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] groklaw lives on, PJ passes the torch on to Mark Webbink http://bit.ly/kALTwN via @glynmoodyMay 16 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @lxoliva groklaw lives on, PJ passes the torch on to Mark Webbink http://bit.ly/kALTwN << good choiceMay 16 13:54
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MinceRschestowitz: what do you know about Mark Webbink?May 16 13:54
schestowitz"Thank you PJ and good luck. You made a fine choice with Mark Webbink."May 16 13:57
schestowitzMinceR: he's coolMay 16 13:57
schestowitzBut not enough of the anti-swpatsMay 16 13:57
schestowitzHe is behind stuff like peer 2 patentsMay 16 13:57
schestowitzNot rebellious enoughMay 16 13:57
MinceRas a temporary defense or as a solution?May 16 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @lxoliva groklaw lives on, PJ passes the torch on to Mark Webbink http://bit.ly/kALTwN via @glynmoodyMay 16 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open health and medical gag orders | http://red.ht/mnLEjY #community #transparencyMay 16 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - As of Today, It's Mark Webbink's Groklaw 2.0 .::. Size~: 45.37 KBMay 16 13:58
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oiaohmMark Webbink is not pro patents  either.  schestowitzMay 16 14:02
oiaohmPeer 2 patents is one of the base reforms that in theory should help.May 16 14:02
oiaohmProblem is no punishment for bogus patents.May 16 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !IdentiverseMay 16 14:03
MinceRoh, that's no patent pool (contrary to what i thought)May 16 14:03
MinceRthere's very little it could help against obvious patents, imoMay 16 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Damn fucking typos! :DMay 16 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @zack #podcast recommendation of the (last (last)) week: «Open Source Projects and Corporate Entanglement» http://ur1.ca/40q8e by @fo ...May 16 14:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Episode 0x0E: Open Source Projects and Corporate Entanglement - Free as in Freedom  - Free as in Freedom .::. Size~: 8.04 KBMay 16 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jwildeboer What I like about Shuttleworth - he has an opinion. And he voices it. Not that typical wishiwashi that effectively says n ...May 16 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jwildeboer Shuttleworth promotes dual licensing as it delivers more free software the communit yotherwise wouldn't get. #dorsclucMay 16 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I disagree with @jwildeboer. Shuttleworth's latest keynote seemed a bit cowardly. If you have an opinion, say it openly.May 16 14:09
schestowitzI will email markMay 16 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana @jwildeboer That whole gardening thing was totally weird and creeped me out.May 16 14:11
schestowitzoiaohm: I knowMay 16 14:11
schestowitzI am writing about it right nowMay 16 14:11
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2007/10/21/webbink-software-patents-ip/May 16 14:11
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oiaohmReally patent pools are magic offset systems.May 16 14:12
oiaohmThat companies like MS have been loop holing for years.May 16 14:12
oiaohmBy selling patents off to trolls.May 16 14:12
oiaohmReally I personally don't believe patents should be transferable in form other than total aquirement.May 16 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana LOL!May 16 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lxoliva groklaw lives on, PJ passes the torch on to Mark Webbink http://bit.ly/kALTwN via @glynmoodyMay 16 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Kurze Presseschau zur Rückmigration des #AA http://ur1.ca/46yuo z.B. #Spiegel , #Zeit http://ur1.ca/46yuo !fs !fsfe #bundesleaksMay 16 14:14
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MinceRi'm not sure if patents should even exist at allMay 16 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Case of mistaken identity?May 16 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jwildeboer ♺ @gbraad: just looked at the python-storm page; "Contributions must have copyright assigned to Canonical <http://is.gd/x ...May 16 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Happy to see @jwildeboer is live-denting the hunt for the #horcrux or something ...May 16 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Bright New Future for #Groklaw Under Mark Webbink’s Leadership http://is.gd/OMnwrO #redhat #sflc #swpats #webbink #lawMay 16 14:21
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schestowitzOK, done..May 16 14:21
schestowitz"May 16 14:21
schestowitzHi Mark,May 16 14:21
schestowitzMy name is Roy and you might as well know me by now as I wrote about you in the past, e.g. in http://techrights.org/2007/10/21/webbink-software-patents-ip/May 16 14:21
schestowitzI've been in regular touch with Pamela for the past 5+ years as there is overlap in this things we cover and also research, to the extent possible over the Internet. I wish to congratulate you on the appointment and wrote about this a couple of minutes ago.May 16 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat’s Webbink Criticises Software Patents and Sheds Light on IP | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.34 KBMay 16 14:21
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/05/16/groklaw-2-0-introduced/May 16 14:21
schestowitz"May 16 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] A Bright New Future for Groklaw Under Mark Webbink’s Leadership http://is.gd/OMnwrO #uspto #sco #novell #gnu #linuxMay 16 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @fabsh @lauroman Secondly, give me one case where Canonical did GPL enforcement.May 16 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Bright New Future for Groklaw Under Mark Webbink’s Leadership | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.24 KBMay 16 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Marginalia is still alive in the digital world - http://oreil.ly/m7RFLM nice idea #ebooks #marginalia #ccMay 16 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz A Bright New Future for #Groklaw Under Mark Webbink’s Leadership http://is.gd/OMnwrO #redhat #sflc #swpats #webbink #lawMay 16 14:28
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schestowitz>> Indeed. And PJ told me some are copyrighted. We may need to improveMay 16 14:28
schestowitz>> their preservation in our wiki. Placeholder here:May 16 14:29
schestowitz>> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Techrights_LegalMay 16 14:29
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schestowitz> May 16 14:29
schestowitz> Under the Berne Convention, everything is copyrighted the moment it'sMay 16 14:29
schestowitz> created.  However, these must be in the public domain because they areMay 16 14:29
schestowitz> official government records.May 16 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Go the F--- to Sleep': Case of Viral PDF - http://bit.ly/mUl4St biased article, but facts are clear: digital #piracy drives analogue salesMay 16 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung display folds flat without creasing - http://bit.ly/mGbjs4 I remember an Apple mockup showing this 10, 15 years ago...May 16 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mark Webbink takes over Groklaw 2.0 http://lwn.net/Articles/443029/rssMay 16 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Asda now offers cash for your old gadgets but is it value for money? - http://tnw.co/iv5Yha re-use is goodMay 16 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #McKinnon battles renewed Obama-era extradition push - http://bit.ly/krzlRN gone rather quiet on this front...May 16 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @glynmoody: #Asda now offers cash for your old #gadgets but is it value for money? - http://tnw.co/iv5Yha #reuse is goodMay 16 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Seems strange to see Wallmart company doing anything good, however limited. God I must be cynical :)May 16 14:34
schestowitz> May 16 14:37
schestowitz> It looks like the SIP client Blink might be able to record:May 16 14:37
schestowitz> http://icanblink.com/May 16 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenLogic Scanning Data Reveals OSS Developers Choose #GPL, Enterprises Prefer #Apache - http://mwne.ws/m4x1nM not too surprisingMay 16 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trying thr #blink #SIP client. Very good so far. http://is.gd/AsM5uO #voipMay 16 14:43
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 16 14:49
schestowitz> May 16 14:49
schestowitz> I'm having trouble with Ekiga nowMay 16 14:49
schestowitzI tried calling you with Blink, which looks decent. There was no response from it, just from Ekiga when I tried that (the second time). I could not find the recording features in Blink, but I have another app -- sip-communicator -- which features built-in recording. For Ekiga I use audacity.May 16 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I still don't understand what he is saying :)May 16 14:51
oiaohmSo sip-communicator I dug up for you a while back it still going well.  schestowitzMay 16 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I think he's saying "I love copyleft as long as I own all the copyrights."May 16 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right...Finally got around to downloading the !PSN update..... Might even have a little go of !Killzone3May 16 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] The Temper Trap are a great band. #goodmusicMay 16 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I don't want a lawyer. No offense... ;)May 16 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] It depends if I manage to get this article finished.... I've also got some plans to sort out Byte.Me...lets seeMay 16 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh None taken, I avoid them myself :)May 16 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Hehehe.... ;)May 16 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] argh. I am being prevented from saving my child theme because I "don't have permissions" ... hell, I might as well still be using WindowsXPMay 16 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that's ok.... i have better things to do... like going to the dentist and getting a filling. Guaranteed more fun >:(May 16 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @thetecheye: Schools aghast at #EU #WiFi ban proposal. "Nothing good can come from this report," says deputy http://bit.ly/jfLIHs #mobileMay 16 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Just got to season 3 in #Fringe don't like Olivia with a tattoo in the neckMay 16 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh @bkuhn Ironically my own country, the UK, seems to be the of the very few countries with no specific FOS provision in lawMay 16 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview: #PJ on the beginning, ending, and future of #Groklaw - http://red.ht/mMm75r fascinating stuff #opensource #scoMay 16 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I suppose we're very largely protected by EU law now, but still... we could do with putting it on our own books reallyMay 16 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh It's amazing we get so much leeway in practice, when we have no legal right to it :)May 16 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh We have some very dangerous laws actually. Our PM can declare war without going to parliament. At least in theory; that's very rareMay 16 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I'd prefer we were a republic. Last time read about it we're still in the minority, but we're closing the gap gradually :)May 16 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Roundup: #Lodsys , #Microsoft , #Versata , and #Rambus http://is.gd/louxcg #swpats #patents #usptoMay 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Patents Roundup: Lodsys, Microsoft, Versata, and Rambus http://is.gd/louxcg #monopoly #entitlementMay 16 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh Politics is very odd. Iranians have more legal rights than us, in theory; they also have more women in parliament too. StrangeMay 16 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Nice to see an article bigging up #IRC. Props to @linuxjournal http://bit.ly/m36XcNMay 16 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Bye Bye IdenticaMay 16 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - ATK Hackfest - As you may have read, lately we have been working on accessibility on ... http://ow.ly/1cGXeQMay 16 15:44
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Ender_nothomeI will after today be keeping an extremely low profileMay 16 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Symbolic: OSBC requires slides from presenters in PPT format.May 16 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s CEO More Likely to Leave After His Disastrous #Skype Move http://is.gd/Qp3btX #voip #sip #fossMay 16 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft’s CEO More Likely to Leave After His Disastrous Skype Move http://is.gd/Qp3btX !fsfMay 16 15:53
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Ender_nothomeIf anyone wants to know why they can e-mail meMay 16 15:54
Ender_nothomeblozza at gmailMay 16 15:54
Ender_nothomeI don't need any more government reports against meMay 16 15:54
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schestowitz[15:50] <Ender_nothome> I will after today be keeping an extremely low profileMay 16 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] I'm in Puerto Rico because my cousin was shot dead in a bar fight in my 'hood on Mothers Day. We need better #guncontrol laws, not less.May 16 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab Extortionist patent troll company trying to license "upgrade button" receives plenty of insulting emails: http://ur1.ca/46wo2 >May 16 15:58
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schestowitzBy saying so in IRC?May 16 15:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73623741May 16 15:59
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 14:55:02 UTC - Identi.ca: mail << jail ; why isn't patent trolling teated as extortion, which is what it is...May 16 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NASA's Fermi Telescope Finds Giant Structure in our Galaxy http://ur1.ca/2bffp !scienceMay 16 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lamm I'm in Puerto Rico because my cousin was shot dead in a bar fight in my 'hood on Mothers Day. We need better #guncontrol laws...May 16 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] What's up with the #linux kernel and ARM? Jon Corbet explains on Linux.com: http://bit.ly/lxLeke #embeddedMay 16 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview: PJ on the beginning, ending, and future of Groklaw http://is.gd/Yyz1Lr "I was born to write Groklaw"May 16 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Knight-Mozilla Initiative: Think, Hack, Make & Jam in London at the Guardian http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2011/05/16/knight-mozilla-May 16 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Groklaw – "The blog that made a difference" - http://bit.ly/l3IAwQ long, detailed interview with #PJ - great stuffMay 16 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Desktop OS revenue and growth outpace servers http://is.gd/znl6Cy "real growth in operating sales in 2010 came not from Apple,but from RHT"May 16 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Set up a petition to keep #Ballmer at Microsoft. He does an excellent job driving people away to #gnu #Linux and increasing MSFT's debt.May 16 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Another Trivia night! http://thehavenjp.com/events/2011-05-16-trivia/ @donaldrobertsoniii and @mattl -- @thehavenjpMay 16 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Any differences between Fedora 13 and Fedora 14? To be honest, I have not noticed much from my nodding acquittance." http://is.gd/RFnHt3May 16 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh and before you attack me on this, I know the GG isn't a constitution per se, but explaining the difference would blow this venue.May 16 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's market share is only about 4% on the desktop. See the company's SEC filing where it is legally obliged not to lie/spread hype.May 16 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple shoots itself in the foot by allowing OSuX to run only on Apple-branded PCs (aka "Macs") and appealing to people w/ more money than IQMay 16 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was thinking today; what would it take for me to move back to !Gwibber and I think the best answer for me would be #Tumblr support in ..May 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] .. GwibbMay 16 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Vatican sex abuse guidelines 'leave bishops behind cover-ups in control' http://is.gd/eBFUdT they think they have the moral high ground lolMay 16 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] What every C Programmer should know about undefined behavior #2/3 http://lwn.net/Articles/443037/rssMay 16 16:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz, In Soviet Russia, bishop chokes you!May 16 16:27
DaemonFCB-)May 16 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Show notes for !TechBytes Episode 46 have just been released by @openbytes http://is.gd/3wRnNv fun show - one hour, 3 music tracksMay 16 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The limits of your ethical consumerism http://is.gd/J1Irmc #interestingMay 16 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When we started !techbytes I had less time to write posts so !techrights declined in ranks. But both #Alexa and #Netcraft ranks improve now.May 16 16:29
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DaemonFCMinceR, I guess that means in Soviet Russia, the chicken chokes you tooMay 16 16:29
DaemonFCvery dangerous placeMay 16 16:30
MinceR:>May 16 16:30
DaemonFCI was just walking along to my assigned job officer, and totally minding the people's business and allMay 16 16:31
DaemonFCand out of nowhere, this chicken attacked meMay 16 16:31
DaemonFCIt was horrible. Please find him and reeducate him about appropriate behavior. :DMay 16 16:32
MinceRchoke him in retaliation.May 16 16:32
DaemonFCЭто, как вам это нравится? *cluck cluck cluck*May 16 16:33
DaemonFCit was awful :PMay 16 16:33
MinceRby the sounds of its clucking, it was a usian spyMay 16 16:34
DaemonFCMinceR, schestowitz didn't believe me when I told himMay 16 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I meant to say, for me at least, the killer feature of !identicurse is the threading. Same criteria I rejected the otherwise excellent !XMPPMay 16 16:34
DaemonFCbut a CIA agent followed me off the train when I went to Washington D.C. back in 1996May 16 16:35
DaemonFCwell, he followed my dad and I for some reasonMay 16 16:35
schestowitz[16:33] <DaemonFC> Это, как вам это нравится? *cluck cluck cluck*May 16 16:36
schestowitzLOLMay 16 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/executive-style/the-beards-and-moustaches-world-championship-2011-20110516-1ep6f.htmlMay 16 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oddly enough, the #youtube channel where we put !techbytes tests (not ogg/default) is PageRank 5 without any IBLs/links http://is.gd/ELRiN1May 16 16:36
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schestowitzSpasiva,. DaemonFCMay 16 16:36
MinceRyou mean спосибо?May 16 16:36
schestowitzWhatever . . . :-)May 16 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Education Minister Rips Off #Wikipedia - http://gaw.kr/jKslWy learning from the kids...May 16 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Is this really Ms Tin Pei Ling, new MP for Marine Parade GRC? Really? No, really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3io6To62wM #sgelectionMay 16 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @michelenlared: #Zeitgeist Activity Log Manager - http://youtu.be/-eQn7ZyfSlw #ubuntu #unity #linuxMay 16 16:38
DaemonFCFather forgive me for I have sinned, and well, it's embarrassing....I'm not a Catholic but I came here because I figured you would understand these things. :)May 16 16:38
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MinceR"Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. I'm not kidding here! Big time sinner, yup!"May 16 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb: The limits of your ethical consumerism http://is.gd/J1Irmc #interestingMay 16 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: British Education Minister Rips Off #Wikipedia - http://gaw.kr/jKslWy learning from the kids...May 16 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @glynmoody British Education Minister Rips Off #Wikipedia - http://gaw.kr/jKslWy learning from the kids..May 16 16:39
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DaemonFCMinceR, I'm actually an ordained minister from one of those internet churches that will take anyone :) The US Supreme Court in its wisdom decided that the state of Utah couldn't have it both ways (decide who was a genuine priest or not) and ruled in favor of that churchMay 16 16:39
DaemonFCso I figure this could possibly come in handy at some pointMay 16 16:40
MinceRthat quote is from Postal2, though :>May 16 16:40
DaemonFCif I ever need to refuse to testify or something May 16 16:40
DaemonFC"Sorry, this came up in a confession"May 16 16:40
DaemonFCOK then, we have to let him excuse himself... :PMay 16 16:40
DaemonFCMinceR, That church is also popular with gay people because there's situations where a hospital won't let you in as their boyfriend or whatever, but if you're their priest, well, that's a lawsuit, let him inMay 16 16:42
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:42
DaemonFCso I'm a priest of, well, that's for me to decide May 16 16:42
DaemonFCMinceR, Do you have anything that I can ask of Joe Pesci for you?May 16 16:42
DaemonFCthe Sun perhaps?May 16 16:43
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:43
DaemonFC(the moon is evil)May 16 16:43
DaemonFCMinceR, The local jail had a problem where they allowed priests/pastors etc. in outside visitation hoursMay 16 16:44
DaemonFCso all of a sudden, everyone in the prisoner's family was an ordained minister of this churchMay 16 16:44
DaemonFCand so the policy is now the same visitation rules for everyoneMay 16 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Knight-Mozilla News Innovation Jam, London - http://bit.ly/kbjjKj get free tickets while they're hot: "Hack the future of journalism online"May 16 16:44
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DaemonFCit gave me something to laugh at while I was being booked on assault charges this one timeMay 16 16:45
DaemonFCthey had the memo on the wallMay 16 16:45
DaemonFCMinceR, I learned my lesson about lawyers the first time I had to pay oneMay 16 16:46
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:46
DaemonFCand that was the only time I've ever plead guilty to anything (on his advice)May 16 16:47
DaemonFC:)May 16 16:47
DaemonFCthen I got to thinking "I could have ended up where I am now for FREE!"May 16 16:47
MinceR174126 < DaemonFC> (the moon is evil)May 16 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dell really like to make things difficult. I would like to say I am surprised by this but I am not.May 16 16:48
MinceRno it's not, stupid human :>May 16 16:48
DaemonFCwho are you calling a stupid human you stupid human?May 16 16:48
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:48
DaemonFCI am more divine than you are because I'm Jesus's favorite for "insert reason"May 16 16:48
DaemonFCso THEREMay 16 16:48
MinceRtoo bad Jesus has been dead for more than a thousand yearsMay 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Ah, Vancouver beat the Sharks last night. I like that.May 16 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Heard on NPR this morning. "You can't believe everything you hear on the Internet, that's how World War one got started.." :-).May 16 16:49
DaemonFCMinceR, You figure that there really was someone they based Jesus on?May 16 16:49
DaemonFCand like, maybe the story just got more exaggerated as time went on?May 16 16:50
DaemonFCit wouldn't be the first timeMay 16 16:50
DaemonFCLook how many variations of the story of Camelot and King Arthur there are May 16 16:50
DaemonFCwe don't pray to the Lady of the Lake do we?May 16 16:50
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:51
MinceRcould have beenMay 16 16:51
MinceRor notMay 16 16:51
MinceRbut being the favorite of an imaginary person doesn't help your case eitherMay 16 16:51
*DaemonFC uses his Divine Priesthood of Something or Other superpowers and summons a gelatinous cube to attack MinceR May 16 16:52
DaemonFCB-)May 16 16:52
DaemonFCthat was always my favorite D&D monster, you could actually find a lot of treasure if you managed to kill it May 16 16:53
*MinceR turns the Gelatinous Cube against DaemonFC and conjures some popcornMay 16 16:53
DaemonFCthe armor and indigestible belongings of its previous victims May 16 16:53
MinceRi find them fun to put into dungeonsMay 16 16:54
*DaemonFC casts Cone of Cold to freeze the cube and then shatters itMay 16 16:55
DaemonFCno I did NOT steal that fro mTerminator 2May 16 16:55
DaemonFC:PMay 16 16:55
*DaemonFC steals MinceR's popcornMay 16 16:55
*MinceR found that boring so he summons a Balor for DaemonFC to fight nextMay 16 16:55
*DaemonFC ties MinceR up for the cube to find when it thaws out and reassembles itself :DMay 16 16:56
*MinceR conjures another popcorn to replace the one that just got knocked out of DaemonFC's hand into the dirtMay 16 16:56
*DaemonFC summons Steve Ballmer and an army of DEVELOPERSMay 16 16:56
DaemonFCB-)May 16 16:56
*MinceR minces them in one round with a BFS made of platinumMay 16 16:57
DaemonFCthey're armed with mediocre Vista Phone apps May 16 16:57
MinceRIOW, they're unarmedMay 16 16:57
DaemonFCuhhhm, they can still throw their phone at youMay 16 16:57
DaemonFCB-)May 16 16:57
MinceRthat can't penetrate my DRMay 16 16:57
DaemonFCdamn :PMay 16 16:58
MinceRthey're weak.May 16 16:58
DaemonFCyes, but they make an interesting diversion May 16 16:58
DaemonFCjust ask ZDNET May 16 16:58
DaemonFChmmm, I always giggle when someone comments on a Mesa git commit that they forgot to flushMay 16 16:59
DaemonFCis that juvenile? :PMay 16 17:00
MinceRi guess soMay 16 17:00
DaemonFCbrbMay 16 17:00
DaemonFC:)May 16 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @jra Heard on NPR this morning. "You can't believe everything you hear on the Internet, that's how World War one got started.." :-).May 16 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL That is awesome!May 16 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !miners ♻ @vanden @fabsh Sweet! "Mr. President, we must not allow a mineshaft gap!"May 16 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110516 #sip_and_clickMay 16 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Why am I writing about writing? http://wp.me/p1z9Qo-a #MyWANA #amwriting #writingMay 16 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @elopio: Episode 4 of Pioneer One: http://vodo.net/pioneeroneMay 16 17:24
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I just noticed Kubuntu tries to make the KDE 4 style application menu mandatoryMay 16 17:25
DaemonFCyou can't remove it from the panel, and there's no option to switch to the classic styleMay 16 17:26
DaemonFC:PMay 16 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @digimer: Judge: "I freed Byron". #FreeByron!!!!!!!May 16 17:26
DaemonFCI ended up deleting their panel and telling KDE to make a new one with the default layout :)May 16 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @OpenAccessNow: OpenAIRE Open Access in FP7Seventh Research Framework Programme: OpenAIRE - Open Access Infrastructure Research ... h ...May 16 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz: Man Beaten By Durham Regional #Police Tells His Story at #Toronto Freedom Festival May 7 11 http://is.gd/UuQ4ml #CanadaMay 16 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: No se puede ser neutral, no se debe permanecer indiferente ur1.ca/46zxd !EOLMay 16 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tangled seems like one dance routine after another with some vague plot joiners, pity because some of it's very funny #fbMay 16 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh traveling to Norway was a bit too pricey for me, but I'm planning on competing at the US nationals in October.May 16 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Portanto, as bestas da Vodaphone, PT e Optimus são todas contra a neutralidade da rede... http://ur1.ca/46zyg #mafiaMay 16 17:33
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MinceRDaemonFC: are you sure that's different from stock KDE4 currently?May 16 17:33
DaemonFCyepMay 16 17:33
MinceRif so, it might mean that canonical won't leave your precious kubuntu alone eitherMay 16 17:33
MinceRthey'll fuck it up :>May 16 17:33
DaemonFCprobably too many Kubuntu users accidentally removed the menuMay 16 17:33
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schestowitzSLAB?May 16 17:33
schestowitzhi, ZiomatrixMay 16 17:33
DaemonFCand couldn't figure out the three clicks to get it backMay 16 17:33
MinceRalso, apparently m$ is going to ensure that mokia stays dead >> http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/eldar-murtazin-microsoft-will-enter-negotiations-to-buy-nokias/May 16 17:33
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MinceRi hope it will cost them a lotMay 16 17:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/70163536592117760May 16 17:34
TechrightsBot-tr@wayneborean: @schestowitz Roy, just noticed that you cc'd my old account name :)May 16 17:34
schestowitzAll right...May 16 17:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: greetings, do you know anything about Synnex?May 16 17:34
schestowitznoMay 16 17:34
schestowitzDon't think I ever mentiond itMay 16 17:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: HP has got new partners for WebOS one of them being Bedrock :-(May 16 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What is the Top Open Source License? It all depends on how you ask the question. - InternetNews.com http://ping.fm/W6Q6p is the Top Open SouMay 16 17:34
schestowitz!google techrights SynnexMay 16 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just had the National Statistics folks over for an interview. Very nice chap, unlike the Census people (temps).May 16 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva episode 4 is out? \o/May 16 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz: Set up petition 2 keep #Ballmer at Microsoft. He does excellent job driving people to #gnu #Linux & increasing MSFT's debt.May 16 17:34
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schestowitz!google schestowitz SynnexMay 16 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 2010 June | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/May 16 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2010 May 29 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/29/May 16 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2010 March 10 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/03/10/May 16 17:35
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Links 9/2/2011: Android 2.4 to Ship, IBM/Oracle in Java Leadership ... | http://techrights.org/2011/02/09/java-leadership/May 16 17:35
schestowitzSo I did in fact mention them last yearMay 16 17:35
DaemonFCschestowitz loves Microsoft and all their Shared Source!May 16 17:35
DaemonFCthey're just very sharing peopleMay 16 17:35
DaemonFCand sharing is after all, caringMay 16 17:35
DaemonFCB-)May 16 17:35
schestowitzyes, looks like I see what they are nowMay 16 17:36
schestowitzPart of the pseudo FOSS groupsMay 16 17:36
schestowitzOpen Alliance and all thatMay 16 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Groklaw – "The blog that made a difference" A Q&A with Pamela Jones at The H http://ping.fm/NqbQYMay 16 17:36
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: are they patent trolls mascerading as a "open source" database software solutions company akin to Bedrock?May 16 17:36
schestowitzDOn't know, what do you have that's new?May 16 17:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, Most of the "open" source Microsoft does is under a license that says you can look but don't touch, or you can modify it and use it as a toy as long as you don't make money from it, or you can use it and modify it and share it and make money off it, but it has to run on WindowsMay 16 17:37
DaemonFCyou notice this?May 16 17:37
MinceR(javascript) http://twitter.com/#!/fakeselopMay 16 17:37
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: that is who SAHP seems to be getting in bed with: http://bit.ly/jQj1cwMay 16 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joindiaspora/@joindiaspora] Moving Forward - http://bit.ly/jeWUR2May 16 17:38
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DaemonFCthere's very little actual free software coming out of Microsoft, and even their "open" source is not really all that open.May 16 17:38
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I just hope they don't proceed to sue the homebrew community into oblivion.May 16 17:38
DaemonFCin fact, it can be dangerous to even look at it, even if they say you canMay 16 17:38
DaemonFCbecause then if you come up with something similar, they can say it's a derivative workMay 16 17:38
Ziomatrixschestowitz: or I mean SLAPPing them sillyMay 16 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Michael Terry: Déjà Dup in !Ubuntu #Oneiric http://goo.gl/YSvGoMay 16 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: BlueGriffon Web (WYSIWYG) Editor Reaches Version 1.0 http://goo.gl/1QovyMay 16 17:39
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DaemonFCMicrosoft has lost lawsuits where they were the victim of this same behavior. Like when Stac Electronics let them see the source code of Stacker, then claimed Microsoft DoubleSpace was a derived workMay 16 17:40
DaemonFCeven though it didn't have any of the Stacker code in itMay 16 17:40
DaemonFCI think Microsoft is trying to rope a dope with their Shared Source systemMay 16 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Victor Palau's Blog: !Ubuntu Friendly: Ara and Victor Palau are talking about it! http://goo.gl/A0qIfMay 16 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @JesseBrown: RT @malexw: After nearly a year, Byron Sonne, imprisoned on trumped up #g20 terrorism charges, has been granted bailMay 16 17:41
DaemonFCand when they go after competitors products, it will use the Stacker case as a precedent May 16 17:41
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DaemonFCthe US legal system has a dangerously overbroad definition of derived workMay 16 17:42
DaemonFCthat's why they weren't even sure if Dave Airlie could work on free video drivers for AMD cardsMay 16 17:42
DaemonFChe had seen AMD specs and source code for the R500 chipsets under an NDA May 16 17:43
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: many are certaining blaming Balmer for the downturn: http://bit.ly/kWszzzMay 16 17:43
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DaemonFCso AMD finally said he could work on the drivers as long as he didn't use any NDA-covered knowledgeMay 16 17:43
DaemonFCthat's why he doesn't do a lot of work on pre-HD RadeonsMay 16 17:44
DaemonFCit would be easy for AMD or one of their "partners" to claim he wrote code that they never released specs forMay 16 17:44
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: their earning reports show they flatlined and their shares are falling.May 16 17:44
DaemonFCthen there's be a legal mess :)May 16 17:44
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: why would AMD want to do that? Nvidia is already releasing Optimus drivers for Linux.May 16 17:45
DaemonFCMicrosoft's shrinkage is not large, but stockholders don't like it when you break even year to yearMay 16 17:45
DaemonFCso even a 1% dip can get them to clean house and blame all kinds of management May 16 17:45
schestowitzbrbMay 16 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @silner: Groklaw – "The blog that made a difference" A Q&A with Pamela Jones at The H http://ping.fm/NqbQYMay 16 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] In file-sharing suit, judge draws distinction between BitTorrent and other sites http://ping.fm/eD8nRMay 16 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Internet Evolution: !Google Rules in Public Approval « So different to the media view? http://ping.fm/HgvTUMay 16 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @neilhimself: I'll be answering Doctor Who questions in the @guardian at http://bit.ly/llNDFz. 100s of questions, I'll do my best.May 16 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New York Reveals Plan To Become America’s Next Top Digital City (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/iYNyvxMay 16 17:46
DaemonFCthe problem with a company like Microsoft or Walmart is that they are WAY past the point where their stock can be expected to split every 3-4 yearsMay 16 17:46
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DaemonFCor even 10May 16 17:46
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DaemonFCor 20May 16 17:46
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DaemonFCso there's basically nowhere left for them to goMay 16 17:46
DaemonFCOur financial system says that heads roll when the company isn't growing anymore, even if it can'tMay 16 17:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/70165218575122432May 16 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr@wayneborean: @schestowitz What does page rant 5 mean?May 16 17:47
schestowitzpage rant LOLMay 16 17:47
schestowitzPagRankMay 16 17:48
DaemonFCZiomatrix, Walmart made a net profit of over $7 billion last yearMay 16 17:48
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: By creating a bunch of social network accounts the municipality of NYC thinks they can become the next Silicon Valley? lol Maybe they should figure out how to implement rent control first to attract more developers. May 16 17:48
DaemonFCand they're firing managers for it left and right because they should have made $8 billion (or more)May 16 17:49
DaemonFCit's never enoughMay 16 17:49
DaemonFCWalmart hired several PR firms to try to cover up the fact that it is a monopolyMay 16 17:49
DaemonFCthat violates wage an hour and environmental lawsMay 16 17:50
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: as much as I don't like Verizon for their lobbying they certainly new how to keep their shareholders tight lipped and preventing them from selling while rolling out FIOS (their FTTH ISP)May 16 17:50
DaemonFCand worker safety lawsMay 16 17:50
DaemonFCthey came up with PR websites where fake Walmart employees lavished praise on the companyMay 16 17:50
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Verizon also continues to use unionized labor for installations.May 16 17:50
DaemonFCyou know they're fakeMay 16 17:50
DaemonFCnobody that works for $8 an hour gives a shit about their employerMay 16 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Exchange 2010's load balancing complexities tackled by Kemp (Network World): http://bit.ly/l4iqbDMay 16 17:51
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: $8 an hour? That's a bit high for a starting employee, try more like $7.50.May 16 17:51
DaemonFClet me rephrase, Nobody that works for $8 an hour and can't get health insurance cares about their employer, periodMay 16 17:51
DaemonFCZiomatrix, heh, they forced me into managementMay 16 17:52
DaemonFCit was either go into the management program or get fired for making $9.75 an hour stocking shelves May 16 17:52
DaemonFC:PMay 16 17:52
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: it doesn't make a difference since most locals usually try to cover up their own butts rather then risking their comfy relationship to look out for basic members.May 16 17:53
DaemonFCI actually got a bunch of raises back before they canned the merit raise program and the Exceeds Expectations evaluations were still a 5% raise instead of like 55 centsMay 16 17:53
DaemonFClike they were last time I knewMay 16 17:53
DaemonFCand the overnight difference was $1 an hour, now it's 50 centsMay 16 17:53
DaemonFCso they had a bunch of people starting out for less than $7 an hourMay 16 17:53
DaemonFCand here I was closer to $10May 16 17:53
DaemonFCso they said I could either take a pay cut, get fired, or go into management May 16 17:54
DaemonFCnot a good company to work forMay 16 17:54
DaemonFCit gets worse every yearMay 16 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Sorry for being nearly silent, but it was a hectic day, hardly any time for else than work. My phone company will love me after today.May 16 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Facebook's Dreadfully Executed Smear Campaign Against Google Has Increased Scrutiny Of Facebook's Own Privacy Issues http://is.gd/5tKOhAMay 16 17:54
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DaemonFCevery year they decide the bottom line can look better if they tear it out of their employeesMay 16 17:54
DaemonFCit's horribleMay 16 17:55
DaemonFCnow being full time there is unheard of May 16 17:55
DaemonFCevery year they wring the lowest paid employees even harder May 16 17:55
DaemonFCtell them to work more for lessMay 16 17:55
DaemonFCthat company is the devilMay 16 17:55
DaemonFCZiomatrix, I'm on the no rehire list I think, because before I left I logged into the system and started deleting all the write ups that I didn't agree withMay 16 17:56
DaemonFCWalmart doesn't like a paper trail, you delete that shit and it's just goneMay 16 17:57
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well looking out for your own profit and shoppers who only care about the lowest price can be.  Good at least they can't screw up future job offerings.May 16 17:57
Ziomatrixanyway I have to get going. it's always an opener to visit this channel.May 16 17:58
DaemonFCyeah, most people don't know it, but you can delete write ups for other stores tooMay 16 17:58
DaemonFCso I logged in under several other store IDs and went to work there too :PMay 16 17:58
Ziomatrixnice, ciao :-)May 16 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft's Hyper-V now directly supports CentOS Linux (Network World): http://bit.ly/mkYYNcMay 16 17:59
DaemonFCWalmart has been sued so many times that if a potential employer calls them, all they can say is what I did there, how long I worked there, and what I was making when I leftMay 16 17:59
DaemonFClolMay 16 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft explains how an Hyper-V/Azure cloud would work (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/iVOwG2May 16 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: vanavond in Den Haag - Barroso to the Dutch: "Europe needs you and your innovations" speech: http://bit.ly/j3LBEx #EUMay 16 18:01
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There's a pilot program to roll out SUSE Linux to the point of sale systemMay 16 18:01
DaemonFCa few stores have been converted over from Windows Server/Windows EmbeddedMay 16 18:02
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schestowitz>> Microsoft's open source love-in expands with CentOS Linux support .::. Size~: 79.41 KBMay 16 18:10
schestowitzI think I'll puleMay 16 18:10
schestowitz*pukeMay 16 18:10
schestowitzWho wrote it, Jon?May 16 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody great! Dell have canceled my order then started it all again under new number. This means 1 month delivery time clock starts again.May 16 18:11
DaemonFClol, DellMay 16 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ex Red Hat General Counsel Continues Groklaw's Mission http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/ex-red-hat-counsel-continues-groklaw/May 16 18:16
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DaemonFCsomeone finally packaged Catalyst for Fedora 15May 16 18:17
DaemonFCIt's ironic that Fedora can't make full use of the drivers Red Hat is working onMay 16 18:19
DaemonFCdue to float textures and s3tcMay 16 18:19
DaemonFCthere go a lot of games right thereMay 16 18:19
DaemonFCso, using Fedora basically means I'd be stuck with FGLRX May 16 18:20
DaemonFCI'm not really sure I want to do thatMay 16 18:20
DaemonFCFGLRX is kind of like a latent case of arthritis, you only think about it when it starts acting upMay 16 18:21
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DaemonFCGNOME Shell still isn't working right with FGLRX May 16 18:23
DaemonFCbut, oh wellMay 16 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !miners Added 5 people to the whitelist. http://wiki.sixgun.org/minecraft/start?&#whitelist CC @nybillMay 16 18:24
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DaemonFCGNOME 3 + FGLRX apparently = "Oh a rainbow! Super!!!!"May 16 18:24
DaemonFCB-)May 16 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have started using the K9 (yes the one from !DrWho) email !android app. It makes email much easier to keep up with.May 16 18:26
DaemonFCI just noticed that Walmart puts directions for use on cat litter :/May 16 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man, I just realised how fitting this avatar is for my dents. Buck looks exactly right for the tone most of my stuff has....May 16 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 I figured out that scrolling with the mouse wheel in an unfocused window still works; that held me back from filing a bugMay 16 18:33
DaemonFCnot tagging your files....that's a paddlin'May 16 18:34
DaemonFC:PMay 16 18:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, Is there a way to force KDE to mount a volume before you open it in the file manager?May 16 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @spandexbob: hahahaha just noticed the "Principality of Crunchbang" on the linux world map excellent http://bit.ly/llsZFeMay 16 18:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe you try USB drive?May 16 18:39
schestowitzdon't say "volume"May 16 18:39
schestowitzMakes me think of my 10+ hours testing SIP stuff for recordingMay 16 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Isle of Mark" ROFLMay 16 18:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, volume, pitch, angle, background noise, exposure, saturation, contrast.....May 16 18:41
DaemonFC:)May 16 18:41
DaemonFCschestowitz, YOu mean you aren't using ZOMGSKYPE!!!!?May 16 18:42
DaemonFCYou can buy SKYPE cards at WALMARTMay 16 18:42
DaemonFCit's so ZOMGEASYMay 16 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean That might help if I knew what FTP was. S'okay, it's under control :)May 16 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Hackers Bring Linux Back to the PS3 http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/hackers-bring-linux-back-to-ps3/May 16 18:43
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schestowitzIt works, but not the camMay 16 18:43
schestowitzAnd also, skype will only be used for guestsMay 16 18:43
schestowitzWe don't need it anymoreMay 16 18:43
schestowitzwe thought about leaving it when it was rumoured Facebook was buying skypeMay 16 18:43
schestowitzand months agoMay 16 18:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Facebook buying it would have been betterMay 16 18:44
DaemonFCat least the Linux client would probably survive under themMay 16 18:44
schestowitzhttp://abock.org/2011/02/24/an-open-proposal-to-canonicalMay 16 18:45
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schestowitzCanonicalugeMay 16 18:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: not sure...May 16 18:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Bockover is the Ximian that wrote Banshee. Why are you linking to him? :)May 16 18:46
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I have a new cup holderMay 16 18:47
schestowitzwanna see?May 16 18:47
DaemonFCuhhhm, why are showing me your cup holder?May 16 18:47
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/16/tray-as-a-cupholder/May 16 18:47
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DaemonFC:)May 16 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the shops to buy some wine.May 16 18:48
schestowitzIt's premium... you can eject itMay 16 18:48
koolhead17hi allMay 16 18:48
koolhead17schestowitz DaemonFC jono MinceRMay 16 18:48
schestowitz0/May 16 18:48
DaemonFCWITH OUR POWERS COMBINED!!!!May 16 18:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: the UK is collecting sexual orientation informationMay 16 18:49
schestowitzAnd religion of courseMay 16 18:49
schestowitzAnd lots of other thingsMay 16 18:50
schestowitzToday I had the stats people visitMay 16 18:50
DaemonFCYou mean like the Nazis made lists of Jews?May 16 18:50
koolhead17schestowitz what are we talking about today?May 16 18:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: no, this one if supposed to be randomMay 16 18:50
schestowitzAs in selected at randomMay 16 18:50
koolhead17_Goblin: sir :)May 16 18:50
schestowitzNow, I'm straight and all, but still... I wondered, why do they get statistics on something like religion?May 16 18:50
schestowitzTo better serve what?May 16 18:51
schestowitzSee, lots of people don't careMay 16 18:51
schestowitzThey don't ask such questionMay 16 18:51
schestowitzender says in Canada they do this too in an obligatory censusMay 16 18:51
_GoblinhelloMay 16 18:51
schestowitz_Goblin: g'newsMay 16 18:52
_Goblinoh ?May 16 18:52
schestowitzg'dayMay 16 18:52
_Goblinah...May 16 18:52
_GoblinbonjourMay 16 18:52
schestowitzI tested SIP recordingagain, it worked a lot better May 16 18:52
schestowitzI need to sort it out for the RMS interview at the very leastMay 16 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: I find my hotel bed adorned with a white swan (moulded out of a bath towel) with petals postioned in a heart shape.May 16 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @stav: @andyc That's what the IMF president found on his hotel bed, and that's where his troubles started. Don't get any ideas!! hahahaMay 16 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android #Gingerbread coming to Galaxy S, Tab, Ace, Gio, Fit, and Mini http://goo.gl/IKz3qMay 16 18:53
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_Goblinschestowitz: I've been experimenting with pyopenglMay 16 18:53
schestowitzBut also, saying we're like the unique show that's done on SIP (I know some that use Asterisk) would be cool.May 16 18:53
schestowitz_Goblin: we can do a video show about itMay 16 18:53
schestowitzthe old wayMay 16 18:53
_Goblinif you want.....May 16 18:53
schestowitztoday?May 16 18:53
_Goblinnot sure....May 16 18:53
schestowitzokMay 16 18:53
_Goblingot a decent meal later but.....May 16 18:54
_GoblinI'll try to make an accomodation....May 16 18:54
koolhead17so news around MSFT buying nokia nowMay 16 18:54
_Goblinif you cant beat it, buy itMay 16 18:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, So tell them you're a transsexual AND a Jedi Knight, and an old order Orthodox JewMay 16 18:54
DaemonFC:)May 16 18:54
schestowitz_Goblin: just mailedMay 16 18:56
_Goblin:)May 16 18:56
_Goblinyep just got it upstairs and downstairsMay 16 18:56
schestowitzhttp://thefreecountry.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/gsoc-2011/May 16 18:56
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_Goblinphone pinged......May 16 18:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, There's a bunch of right wingers here that were mad that the census had a 10 question form May 16 18:57
DaemonFCand none of it was really anything personalMay 16 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @tomsutch Testing the new !pony release. I can see what I'm denting again now! :)May 16 18:58
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MinceR194916 < schestowitz> Now, I'm straight and all, but still... I wondered, why do they get statistics on something like religion?May 16 19:01
MinceR194921 < schestowitz> To better serve what?May 16 19:01
MinceRto know which cults to bind the state toMay 16 19:01
GoForbes28hello alMay 16 19:01
GoForbes28lMay 16 19:01
MinceRj0May 16 19:01
MinceR194705 < DaemonFC> WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED!!!!May 16 19:02
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MinceRwho would that be then? :>May 16 19:02
DaemonFCuhhhm, a Hungarian Ubuntu promoter that likes firearmsMay 16 19:02
DaemonFC:)May 16 19:02
GoForbes28MinceR: Wish I knew what the hell is going on here. :PMay 16 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apparently Steve Gibson can't say "Alistair". LOLMay 16 19:03
DaemonFCSteve Gibson was that idiot that got h4x0r3d by a 13 year oldMay 16 19:03
DaemonFCand wrote a website about itMay 16 19:03
DaemonFC:)May 16 19:03
GoForbes28isn't there another steve g. who made guitars?May 16 19:03
DaemonFCyou mean the Gibson guitar company?May 16 19:04
GoForbes28yeahMay 16 19:04
DaemonFCfamous for the Les Paul modelsMay 16 19:04
GoForbes28I thought the founder was named steve gibsonMay 16 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @andyc Re-arranged the petals to spell out 'No towel sculptures please'.May 16 19:04
DaemonFCZOMG YOUR FIREWALL IS SO LEET, IT'S LIKE NOT RESPONDING TO ME AT ALL!!!!! Me: Why thank you. I use Fedora and it's like that out of the box.May 16 19:05
GoForbes28lolMay 16 19:05
GoForbes28I tried BlagMay 16 19:05
GoForbes28no Xfce optionMay 16 19:05
GoForbes28or KDEMay 16 19:05
GoForbes28NEXTMay 16 19:05
GoForbes28I think I'm staying with the Debian familyMay 16 19:06
GoForbes28Just need a time to formatMay 16 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbMay 16 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca YAY :D (he got bail, we're still waiting on conditions) RT @digimer: Judge: "I freed Byron". #FreeByron!!!!!!!May 16 19:06
GoForbes28between work and all the other crap going onMay 16 19:06
GoForbes28schestowitz: are you here?May 16 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] md @hypatiadotca The @Toronto_Life article on Byron's case if you have no idea what I'm on about: http://ur1.ca/43ry9 !freeByronMay 16 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I guess Gadafi isn't bad enough to be just shot... So he gets a warrant, eh? #LetsShootThemAllMay 16 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer Just to clarify !FreeByron has been granted bail. He has not actually been released yet... paperwork needs to be taken care of.May 16 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Château Cap L'Ousteau 2007 - Grand Vin de Bordeaux FTW!May 16 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 164 million downloads on 2011-05-16 18:12 UTCMay 16 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Godspeed to #Endeavour on her last flight. :,(May 16 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: @jezra "I'm on the Capsaicin exercise plan".May 16 19:18
schestowitzhi, GoForbes28May 16 19:20
schestowitzsup?May 16 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Der Letze Bulle is awesome.May 16 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @graziano: @bkuhn is right. Nokia abandoned meego and closed symbian. I use !replicantMay 16 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan judging by how they support it on #RedHat thanks, but no thanks.May 16 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Das Ding fusselt wie sonstwas...." ROFLMay 16 19:24
schestowitzhttp://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/02/21/default-wallpaper-for-gnomeayatana/May 16 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At least these people are really from the Ruhrgebiet. #DerLetzteBulleMay 16 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bärte sind wieder in.May 16 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Da surfen irgendwelche Leute im Internet rum und stubsen Tanja an." LOL #DerLetzteBulleMay 16 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] More VC money chasing after Hadoop -- KP invests $9 mill in Datameer (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/mcllE3May 16 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RD @mjasay Microsoft supporting CentOS is a first-class capitalist move. Red Hat's #1 competition is non-paid Linux ... /via @fosspatentsMay 16 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @digimer: Conditions are not yet known re: #FreeByron bail. Will post details as soon as they're available.May 16 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @digimer: Also, that was /not/ a direct quote from the judge. It was a play on words from last Friday at #HackLabTO :) #FreeByronMay 16 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #DerLetzteBulle is the best TV cop since #Schimanski.May 16 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vanden: "You're going to have to answer to the Coca-Cola Company."May 16 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Mo Landau" - what an awesome name!May 16 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Best music taste of any TV series I've seen lately, too. #Der LetzteBulleMay 16 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Ice Cream Sandwich to Reuninte Phone and Tablet for Android http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/ice-cream-sandwich-announced/May 16 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is how trouble starts: ♺ @newbintraining: @reality You should troll himMay 16 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #Nintendo 3DS targeted in anti #DRM campaign http://ur1.ca/470q7 !dbd !fsf !lpMay 16 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Nokia kills off Ovi mobile brand http://is.gd/KhuQpN it's always the way when you partner with #Microsoft, ya get cored out from the insideMay 16 20:06
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GoForbes28sorry roy, was out delivering things to the The HubMay 16 20:08
GoForbes28returning beer bottles to the beer storeMay 16 20:08
GoForbes28etc.May 16 20:08
GoForbes28it's going goodMay 16 20:08
GoForbes28I worked at my first paid job on SaturdayMay 16 20:08
GoForbes28this another job I have for may-june before the awesome social camp jobMay 16 20:09
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sebsebsebhiMay 16 20:09
GoForbes28hi sebsebseb; schetowitzMay 16 20:09
GoForbes28hi sebsebseb; schestowitzMay 16 20:09
GoForbes28hows it going?May 16 20:09
sebsebsebok you?May 16 20:10
GoForbes28goodMay 16 20:10
GoForbes28as I told roy, I worked at my first paid job on Sat.May 16 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Which moron at O2 had the "grandiose" bizdev idea to differentiate as a carrier based on providing cheap concert tickets?May 16 20:11
GoForbes28last saturdayMay 16 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hello??? Hellooooooooooo??????May 16 20:13
GoForbes28it's at music store doing web work plus some retailMay 16 20:13
GoForbes28what have you been up to, sebsebseb?May 16 20:13
sebsebsebnot muchMay 16 20:14
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GoForbes28hi twitterMay 16 20:14
twitterhelloMay 16 20:14
GoForbes28how's it going?May 16 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This sucks! ♺ @hedayat: http://ur1.ca/46zy7 I don't like it at all... :((May 16 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] well, i'm back home. tomorrow back to work. still getting used to the ring. not used to wearing one :)May 16 20:18
twittergood news about GroklawMay 16 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @johnsu01 #Nintendo 3DS targeted in anti #DRM campaign http://ur1.ca/470q7 !dbd !fsf !lpMay 16 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan "In the world of cloud, there is no software freedom" says @webmink #osbcMay 16 20:21
GoForbes28do tellMay 16 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Minuscule standard serving sizes considered harmful http://ur1.ca/470twMay 16 20:23
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twitterI just read it in TechrightsMay 16 20:23
GoForbes28oh, checking RSS nowMay 16 20:23
GoForbes28I seeMay 16 20:23
twitterThey got a law professor and former Red Hat VP to take over. May 16 20:24
GoForbes28sounds like an excellent appointment based on the descriptionMay 16 20:24
twitterLet's see if he can keep the community going.  May 16 20:24
twitterLeadership is an often over valued commodity, judging by executive pay, but strangely unrewarded judging by real leaders like PJ. May 16 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Check out the #MeeGo Factory video! http://youtu.be/b-awfmH646s via @Brian_IntelMay 16 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] "The People vs. Goldman Sachs" http://ur1.ca/470uoMay 16 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Amid global recession, new IMF strategy: raping commoners one at a time http://ur1.ca/470uqMay 16 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Blackwater founder Eric Prince building American-led army of revolution-crushing mercenaries in UAE http://ur1.ca/470urMay 16 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good evening !identiverse :)May 16 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/443059/rssMay 16 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @nisshh: OhMay 16 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] próxima 2ª, 23/5, às 16h, “Sexo, Drogas e Software” nos seminários de !SoftwareLivre do IC-Unicamp http://ur1.ca/470vtMay 16 20:34
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GoForbes28Has anybody else tried simplymepis recently?May 16 20:35
twitterNot since 8.5May 16 20:35
twitterthat was almost a year ago, I think.May 16 20:35
GoForbes28I tried 11, pretty well polished; I'd use it if I could get rid of the propreitary stuffMay 16 20:35
GoForbes28some on which is obvious, but not allMay 16 20:36
twitterit is a nice thing for new gnu/linux users who demand flashMay 16 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 84 dents!May 16 20:36
twitterit does not lead them to complete freedom but it gets them used to other free software and builds trust that deflates FUD.May 16 20:37
GoForbes28problem is, the ideal thing is to ween them off flash May 16 20:37
twittersure, but the OS is a larger problemMay 16 20:38
GoForbes28definitelyMay 16 20:38
GoForbes28and soon the bios to, with trusted computing always being the danger on the horizonMay 16 20:38
twittergetting them from Windows or OSX to gnu/linux is 85% of the battleMay 16 20:38
GoForbes28and it shouldn't be a single distro eitherMay 16 20:38
twitteronce people are in gnu/linux land, they can shift hardwareMay 16 20:38
GoForbes28brbMay 16 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: !Microsoft’s CEO More Likely to Leave After His Disastrous Skype Move http://techrights.org/2011/05/16/pressure-on-steve-ballmer/May 16 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: The Ballmer Days Are Over http://tinyurl.com/67n7ljj !microsoft !mvp !mvpbuzz !windows !wp7May 16 20:41
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twitterI think the Brooks report was too kind to Microsoft share performance May 16 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chemist: http://gizmo.do/kHIoUe some people shouldn't be allowed to breedMay 16 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron Update: Crown contesting bail conditions hearing w/bWed. @ 9:30, 361 University Ave, released by noon. Please come!!May 16 20:43
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twitterthey compared it to Nasdaq, but Microsoft is a major component of Nasdaq May 16 20:43
twitterit would be better to compare to djia or other investment May 16 20:43
twitterthe comparison to apple and google is deadly, ha haMay 16 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer Any &all who can come to !FreeByron hearing @ 361 University on WEDNESDAY. We *need* your support. Be there when he goes free!May 16 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fabsh Watcha talking about, boy? I shot a man with a bash script earlier. Software is clearly munitions!May 16 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I have chickenpox, and The Simpsons are now playing on tv, the 'Maggie has chickenpox'. #irony #onlyhurtswhenIlaughMay 16 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] "Majority of -rt to be upstream by 2.6.42" (Pg 25 in http://red.ht/m6mOLj - MRG PDF from #redhat summit) Wonder if tglx and mingo know that?May 16 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @trzewiczek: In a working #code I especially like when it actually works!May 16 20:54
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schestowitzballmer has become a liability to the nasdaq :-)May 16 21:02
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor-Mill-Nokia-to-Sell-Mobile-Unit-to-Microsoft-200696.shtmlMay 16 21:03
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MinceRalso a liability to finlandMay 16 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Avaaz: #Uganda's anti-gay law has failed! We won!! Read about and see the highlights: http://j.mp/meCrWz #peoplepowerMay 16 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] pessoal do !SoftwareLivre de BSB, boralá pra audiência pública com os lobos na 5ª http://ur1.ca/4712n IN4/08 e 1/10 neles!May 16 21:09
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schestowitztwitter: will do a post about SIP recordingMay 16 21:11
schestowitzBut not before I'm done researchingMay 16 21:11
schestowitzNo use publishing before it's all doneMay 16 21:11
schestowitzI also need to do some other research tonightMay 16 21:12
twittergood stuff, Roy.May 16 21:12
schestowitzsomeone has just mailed me this:May 16 21:13
schestowitzRe: End days to Microsoft?May 16 21:13
schestowitz> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/survey-56-expect-that-more-than-half-of-all-software-spend-over-next-5-years-will-be-open-source/8917May 16 21:13
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schestowitz> Florian's obsession isn't over. He'll start to attack Mark, after he figures outMay 16 21:14
schestowitz> how. The pause is partly because I'm stopping, but mainly because ofMay 16 21:14
schestowitz> the Facebook PR revelations. He's probably nervous.May 16 21:14
twitterwow, that's two entries for my Microsoft Death Watch.May 16 21:14
schestowitzthere's moreMay 16 21:15
schestowitzi'll do some tomorrowMay 16 21:15
schestowitzgotta do some paid work nowMay 16 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] !disturbing phone call with @bkuhn as usualMay 16 21:16
schestowitzif someone has a SIP account, pls share it, I'm accommodating my address booksMay 16 21:16
schestowitzIn 5 programs :-/May 16 21:16
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schestowitzI have 2 SIP phons in the houseMay 16 21:19
schestowitzOnje of employer, one of mineMay 16 21:19
twittercan you just create a test user and ekiga account for the test?May 16 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: !disturbing phone call with @bkuhn as usualMay 16 21:21
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GoForbes28hi schestowitzMay 16 21:22
schestowitzGoForbes28: what's your SIP address?May 16 21:23
schestowitzI have it in one program, maybe it's changed nowMay 16 21:23
GoForbes28I used a gmail with sip communicatorMay 16 21:23
schestowitztwitter: you don't need an account unless you don't have fixed IPMay 16 21:23
GoForbes28if you have my gmail, that's what I used with SIP communicatorMay 16 21:24
GoForbes28or whatever it is called nowMay 16 21:24
twitterah, my IP address floats but it's been the same for about a yearMay 16 21:24
GoForbes28are you asking for a sip test?May 16 21:24
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GoForbes28because I have more than enough time nowMay 16 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] When people see beards, they think !LO for some reason. Apparently.....May 16 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] De Icaza: Announcing Xamarin http://lwn.net/Articles/443108/rssMay 16 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: De Icaza: Announcing Xamarin [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.16 KBMay 16 21:26
twitterwow, ekiga wants to download evolution and 200 MB of other packagesMay 16 21:26
DaemonFCso basically, like 3.2 GBMay 16 21:26
DaemonFCB-)May 16 21:26
DaemonFCI hate Evolution, it's the shittiest email client, everMay 16 21:27
DaemonFCOne of those "This bloated and still can't do what I want" things I guessMay 16 21:27
twitterI've actually got about 8GB of stuff installed.  Most of it is medical databases.  May 16 21:28
twittermy average system is 2-3GBMay 16 21:29
DaemonFCEvolution has a plug-in system, so it can be extended, but it does all these things by default which make it hugeMay 16 21:29
DaemonFCit completely misses the point of a plug-in systemMay 16 21:30
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GoForbes28lolMay 16 21:30
GoForbes28schestowitz, are you there?May 16 21:30
schestowitzI'm constantly on SIP nowMay 16 21:31
twitterin this case, it's more like ekiga should be a stand aloneMay 16 21:31
puzzledevening. in case you missed it: De icaza just announced his new mono development company: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/May-16.htmlMay 16 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Xamarin - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 19.13 KBMay 16 21:31
schestowitzContact Internet phone (SIP): schestowitz@ekiga.net (24/7)May 16 21:31
puzzlednow the question is: who provided the angel funding...May 16 21:31
GoForbes28that works with SIP communicator and Ekiga?May 16 21:31
schestowitzGoForbes28: can't nowMay 16 21:31
GoForbes28okMay 16 21:32
GoForbes28I'll add you address for keepingMay 16 21:32
GoForbes28puzzled: The definition of trollMay 16 21:32
schestowitzpuzzled: can you find out?May 16 21:32
schestowitzIt's not surprisingMay 16 21:32
schestowitzBut the question is, do they have funding at all?May 16 21:32
puzzledschestowitz: I have no idea how I could find out how they are financedMay 16 21:32
schestowitzMaybe Microsoft will acquire this 'new company'May 16 21:33
schestowitzAnd pay another large sumMay 16 21:33
GoForbes28"Admin Email:miguel.de.icaza@gmail.com"May 16 21:33
schestowitzLike the one Miguel got when he sold XimianMay 16 21:33
GoForbes28gmail, eh?May 16 21:33
schestowitzAward 2.9May 16 21:33
schestowitzHehMay 16 21:34
schestowitzEven Novell didn'tr want him anymoreMay 16 21:34
schestowitzAttachmate ratherMay 16 21:34
twitterthey might treat it like facebook.  buy "5%" of itMay 16 21:34
puzzledyeah that was pretty tellingMay 16 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh my god spazzing gravel kill me now http://ur1.ca/4717bMay 16 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110516T203220-hl94dzz.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.17 KBMay 16 21:34
schestowitz"We do have some funding to get started and ship our initial products. But we are looking to raise more capital to address the shortcomings..."May 16 21:35
schestowitzLots of room for research on this..May 16 21:35
schestowitzcapitalMay 16 21:35
schestowitz*cough * Baystar *vough*May 16 21:35
puzzledhehMay 16 21:35
schestowitzI'm on two SIP lines ATMMay 16 21:36
schestowitzIn case someone wants to get in contact.. we'll see how that goesMay 16 21:36
schestowitzSIP WOrld Revolution !! :-May 16 21:37
schestowitzFreer than your land line evenMay 16 21:37
schestowitzbut it goes via land line (the broadband)May 16 21:37
schestowitzIs there a mono-based SIP client?May 16 21:37
schestowitzI'm new to LUNUXMay 16 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] UMichigan launches new project aimed at identifying orphan works: https://eff.org/r.59g #orphanworks #copyfightMay 16 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Killed by lava, spazzing gravel, can't find iron for a new bucket.... Gah! Notch has cursed me!!May 16 21:38
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved PermanentlyMay 16 21:38
schestowitzAnd I only trust .NET waresMay 16 21:38
schestowitzWhere can I get .NET SIP program for LUNUX?May 16 21:38
GoForbes28lolMay 16 21:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, try #suseMay 16 21:39
GoForbes28Roy, you still haven't tried PSI+ :(May 16 21:39
GoForbes28I'May 16 21:39
GoForbes28m running a "Whois" right now, but it's slowMay 16 21:40
GoForbes28http://www.whois.net/whois/xamarin.comMay 16 21:40
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URLMay 16 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] MORE FUCKING LAVA! I JUST WANT TO FUCKING BUILD!!!!! GAHH!!!!!!!May 16 21:41
GoForbes28fabsh's dents are... interesting...May 16 21:41
GoForbes28Roy, which SIP client works with your address?  All of them?May 16 21:42
schestowitz   PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1May 16 21:43
schestowitz   C/O xamarin.comMay 16 21:43
schestowitz   Bellevue, WA 98007May 16 21:43
schestowitz   USMay 16 21:43
schestowitzGULP!!May 16 21:43
schestowitzBellevue?May 16 21:43
schestowitzThat's where all the Microsoft execs liveMay 16 21:43
twitterthe .net sip client probably requires silverlight only works on reactOS with genuine Windows drivers for webcamMay 16 21:43
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twitterMicrosoft MiguelMay 16 21:44
twitterthe .net guyMay 16 21:44
twittermaybe his address is just a po boxMay 16 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking gold. I need fucking iron. WHY ARE THERE NO GOLD BUCKETS DAMN IT!!!!May 16 21:46
GoForbes28schestowitz: Are you serious about bellevue?May 16 21:46
GoForbes28!google bellevue microsoftMay 16 21:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Northwest District: Bellevue, WA | http://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/usaoffices/northwest/en/us/bellevue.aspxMay 16 21:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bellevue, WA - Microsoft Store | https://store.microsoft.com/StoreLocations/Home.aspx/Index/Bellevue-WAMay 16 21:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - foursquare :: Microsoft City Center Plaza :: Bellevue, WA | https://foursquare.com/venue/152205May 16 21:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft | Microsoft to lease Bellevue's City Center Plaza ... | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoft/2004387273_citycenter02.htmlMay 16 21:46
GoForbes28ohMay 16 21:47
schestowitz!google bellevue nathan myhrvold techrightsMay 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Searete a Part of Intellectual Ventures, a Patent-trolling Firm ... | http://techrights.org/2008/11/12/searete-under-intellectual-ventures/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 1 - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/21/myhrvold-and-gates-monopoly/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2010 June 21 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/21/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2008 November 12 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/12/May 16 21:47
schestowitz!google bellevue gates techrightsMay 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill Gates Dumps His Microsoft Shares and Buys Shares Of Goldman ... | http://techrights.org/2010/08/23/gates-foundation-financial-contributions/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 March 23 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/03/23/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Searete a Part of Intellectual Ventures, a Patent-trolling Firm ... | http://techrights.org/2008/11/12/searete-under-intellectual-ventures/May 16 21:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Gates Foundation Keeps Increasing Investments in BP, Super-Patent ... | http://techrights.org/2010/06/21/myhrvold-and-gates-monopoly/May 16 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pumpkin/@pumpkin] !WikiLeaks, get out of the gagging game http://ur1.ca/4719bMay 16 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: I have just strangled a white swan.May 16 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks, get out of the gagging game | James Ball | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 226.81 KBMay 16 21:48
schestowitzThey like near kirkland and work in BV IIRCMay 16 21:48
GoForbes28well, now we know that this isn't an honest independent businessMay 16 21:48
schestowitzCheck the address of IV and B&M FOundryMay 16 21:48
schestowitzI did this check and posted this some years backMay 16 21:48
schestowitzThey are nearbyMay 16 21:48
schestowitzMaybe even same buildingsMay 16 21:48
GoForbes28wowMay 16 21:49
DaemonFC[ryan@pimpmobile ~]$ uname -aMay 16 21:49
DaemonFCLinux pimpmobile 2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 9 20:45:15 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxMay 16 21:49
DaemonFCheheMay 16 21:49
GoForbes28Miguel must be knowing what he is doingMay 16 21:49
GoForbes28not just someone who's drinking so much koolaidMay 16 21:49
DaemonFCuhhhmMay 16 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! Found some iron....May 16 21:49
DaemonFCit was Flavoraide May 16 21:49
DaemonFCand the flavor was grapeMay 16 21:50
GoForbes28lol, you get the pointMay 16 21:50
schestowitz[21:49] <GoForbes28> Miguel must be knowing what he is doingMay 16 21:50
schestowitzHe knows where the money isMay 16 21:50
DaemonFCrightMay 16 21:50
GoForbes28so xamarian will make patent-infringing software, and IV will walk over an sureMay 16 21:50
*Diablo-D3 looks in his walletMay 16 21:50
DaemonFCget rich and get outMay 16 21:50
GoForbes28*sueMay 16 21:50
schestowitz[not the FSF]May 16 21:51
Diablo-D3miguel cannot have my $2 and change!May 16 21:51
DaemonFCBut something something something Community Promise ZOMG OOXML IS SO AWESOME!!!!! 1,500 pages of AWESOME!!!!!May 16 21:51
schestowitzLOLMay 16 21:51
schestowitzMono booster heckles me now...May 16 21:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73643172May 16 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 20:28:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Why do you hate freedom so much?May 16 21:52
GoForbes28Of course, if we point out the obvious conflict of interests presented by xamarin's location, we'll be the crazy insane paranoid trollsMay 16 21:52
schestowitz.NET=freedom :-)May 16 21:52
GoForbes28I'm pretty sure that dent was spat out by a machineMay 16 21:52
GoForbes28How many times have you seen that sentence?May 16 21:52
DaemonFCHow the hell do you get a 1500 page specification for an office format?May 16 21:52
GoForbes28when you have something to hideMay 16 21:53
DaemonFCYou'd level the rainforest trying to print that outMay 16 21:53
GoForbes28schestowitz: Do you think Mono will still fall out of favour?May 16 21:53
GoForbes28There is no more Novell to perpetuate the BS, so Miguel can't fall back on muchMay 16 21:54
GoForbes28the location alone would alert anyone who has common senseMay 16 21:54
DaemonFCSo basically XML has done for office formats what HTML has done for web browsers. There's no way to be sure you conform to the standard when the standard says people can create infinitely complex documents full of arbitrary amounts of stuffMay 16 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mjjzf: The world is divided between company where you can use the term "precious bodily fluids" and company that would frown on the term.May 16 21:54
twitterMiguel found happiness in slavery.  Why do you hate his freedom to enjoy slavery instead of joining him?May 16 21:55
schestowitz!google odf seattleMay 16 21:55
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Somali Language Information on Seattle.Gov | http://www.seattle.gov/html/citizen/somali.htmMay 16 21:55
schestowitz!google odf bellveueMay 16 21:55
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DaemonFCI don't like the fact that XML gives office formats so much room to grow. They're already 10 times as piggish as the old binary formats.May 16 21:56
GoForbes28!google opendocument bellevueMay 16 21:56
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - SSM Medical Group - St. Mary's Health Center Campus | http://www.ssmhc.com/internet/home/physicia.nsf/6ca2af2859f73db986257108006dce97/161ab31a55a819aa8625735d0053a61c%3FOpenDocumentMay 16 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Western Division : Thrift Store Locations | http://www.usc.salvationarmy.org/usc/www_usc_western.nsf/vw-sublinks/5ae4e09a430d51ab86256f88006c1937%3FopendocumentMay 16 21:56
schestowitzUseless resultsMay 16 21:56
GoForbes28yepMay 16 21:56
GoForbes28!google ooxml bellevueMay 16 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - PSNUG | http://www.psnug.org/May 16 21:56
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Web Developer Summit wrap-up — Derick Rethans | http://derickrethans.nl/microsoft-web-developer-summit-wrapup.htmlMay 16 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - HP Enterprise Solutions Center for Windows | http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/8173-0-0-0-121.htmlMay 16 21:56
twittermost searches with Microsoft in them return useless resultsMay 16 21:56
DaemonFCIt's hard to believe I used to get along fine with a copy of WordPerfect running on DOSMay 16 21:57
twitterignorance is strengthMay 16 21:57
DaemonFCand now there's this war going on between two horrible and mutually incompatible office formatsMay 16 21:57
GoForbes28odf is horrible?May 16 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jancborchardt: My response was similar: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/creative-suite-for-linux-an-update/#comment-112993574May 16 21:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative suite for Linux: an update [updated] .::. Size~: 210.18 KBMay 16 21:58
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Technically, it has most of the same problems of OOXMLMay 16 21:58
DaemonFCODF is better because it's actually a standardMay 16 21:58
DaemonFCthat anyone can implement and not be sued forMay 16 21:58
GoForbes28and improve uponMay 16 21:58
twitterhttp://www.microsoft.com/about/companyinformation/usaoffices/northwest/en/us/bellevue.aspxMay 16 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Northwest District: Bellevue, WA .::. Size~: 47.45 KBMay 16 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Randall Ross: !Ubuntu's Leaders Speak: !UDS-O Videos Available http://goo.gl/iril1May 16 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu's Leaders Speak: UDS-O Videos Available | Amplify the Signal .::. Size~: 29.54 KBMay 16 21:59
GoForbes28Microsoft Xamarin it isMay 16 21:59
DaemonFCGoForbes28, KOffice is so much more pleasant to work in than LibreOffice May 16 22:00
twitterOOXML is bad because it is nonsenseMay 16 22:00
DaemonFCthey're both better than vanilla OOo was thoughMay 16 22:00
GoForbes28DaemonFC: KDE fanboy!May 16 22:00
GoForbes28lolMay 16 22:00
GoForbes28"If you like KDE, you must hate freedom 'cause it doesn't use Mono."May 16 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mynameistux: there is a parallel universe where fox didn't cancel firefly. And only 3 starwars, and 1 matrix were made. #takemethereMay 16 22:01
GoForbes28What I would like to see is what Miguel would do with .net if MS went bustMay 16 22:02
GoForbes28would he really try to continue where they left off?May 16 22:02
DaemonFCthe only reason for Mono to exist is to mimic .NET, but not closely enough that Windows > Linux porting becomes feasible May 16 22:05
DaemonFCit took them 4 years to get a Banshee for Windows to alpha qualityMay 16 22:06
DaemonFCI can only imagine what it would be like getting a Windows program that complex over to LinuxMay 16 22:06
GoForbes2815 years?May 16 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love identica sometimes! :DMay 16 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vanden: Mozilla, your crash reporter crashed. `Lame' doesn't cover it.May 16 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] iPhone, Android, Windows and Linux: Microsoft System Center now manages them all (Network World): http://bit.ly/jAgXOvMay 16 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iPhone, Android, Windows and Linux: Microsoft now manages them all .::. Size~: 119.47 KBMay 16 22:08
GoForbes28of course, we'd get a good look at that useless code, thanks to decompilingMay 16 22:08
DaemonFCPointy Haired Boss: "I don't care if it's not portable and uses undocumented API and relies on Windows bugs to work, it's not like Microsoft will ever stop supporting Windows XP"May 16 22:08
DaemonFCwith businesses like that around, do you think they're going to bother porting their .NET apps to Linux using Mono?May 16 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Miguel de Icaza announced #Xamarin, a new company focused on Mono-based products. http://goo.gl/W2T3j !gnomeMay 16 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: Too Fast For Me http://goo.gl/RNuTeMay 16 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Xamarin - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 19.21 KBMay 16 22:09
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GoForbes28most of the developers I have seen talking about mono are GNU/Linux developersMay 16 22:09
GoForbes28ignorant ones, it seemsMay 16 22:10
GoForbes28The Windows developers I have talked to have said, "Meh, maybe in the future"May 16 22:10
DaemonFCGoForbes28, There was a Microsoft employee who accidentally admitted the reason you shouldn't ever depend on proprietary software. When he was talking about all the contrived things they have to do to keep old programs working on new versions of Windows. He admitted that most companies will never fix their code because they sold it to you, they have their money, and some of them are even out of business now. :)May 16 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @toros: Miguel de Icaza announced #Xamarin, a new company focused on Mono-based products. http://goo.gl/W2T3j #gnomeMay 16 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I thought I had it when I was young too, but now I got blisters all over torso, arms and head. :(May 16 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing Xamarin - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 19.21 KBMay 16 22:11
DaemonFCpeople that use Nvidia cards should just be glad that Nvidia keeps their drivers working for an incredibly long time and that the reverse engineered free drivers are aroundMay 16 22:12
DaemonFCthere's no law that specifies how long Nvidia is obligated to support those chipsetsMay 16 22:12
GoForbes28brings to mind troubles with CobolMay 16 22:13
GoForbes28the outsourcing needed due to the dependency on this languageMay 16 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh the doctor said there are rare cases of reincidence, usually due to a badly cured previous incident.May 16 22:14
GoForbes28GNU+Linux seems to have superior backwards compatibility compared to Windows, in my mere, humble opinionMay 16 22:14
DaemonFCWhy patch it for free when they can sell you the upgrade?May 16 22:15
DaemonFCZOMG, THE $100 UPGRADE WORKS WITH WINDOWS ZOMG 7!!! ZOMG!May 16 22:15
DaemonFCB-)May 16 22:15
schestowitzShhhh... :-) ryan's mom has got it going on....   gonad # umount /home/ryan/momMay 16 22:15
*DaemonFC kills schestowitz May 16 22:15
DaemonFC:)May 16 22:15
GoForbes28or "We're running out of ideas, let's cram more crap in"May 16 22:15
schestowitzYou can'tMay 16 22:16
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schestowitzI'm run as rootMay 16 22:16
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schestowitzWhat do you think I'm on, WINDOWS? :-0May 16 22:16
GoForbes28Also, he is strong enough to beat you upMay 16 22:16
schestowitzryan has a gotMay 16 22:16
DaemonFCsure May 16 22:16
schestowitzryan's gun has got it going on...May 16 22:16
DaemonFChe has to get close enough first May 16 22:16
DaemonFC:)May 16 22:16
schestowitz!google stacey's momMay 16 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Stacy's Mom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy%27s_MomMay 16 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Fountains of Wayne - Stacy's Mom | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DdZLfasMPOU4May 16 22:16
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GoForbes28I bet the trolls would piss their pants if they ran into Roy in real lifeMay 16 22:17
schestowitzNot rally, i don't fightMay 16 22:17
schestowitzI had one small fight when I was 15... nothing major and I wonMay 16 22:17
GoForbes28Nah, you just intimidate themMay 16 22:17
GoForbes28You size them upMay 16 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @alisonchaiken: #samba interviews on last !lo were truly superior. Congrats to @fabsh for his increasing journalistic professionalism.May 16 22:18
schestowitzIIRC Ryan was 220lbMay 16 22:18
schestowitzWas on wal-mart-Jabba dietMay 16 22:18
GoForbes28and you are?May 16 22:18
DaemonFCMost of the people who work out all the time are steroid shooting lechs and/or ego maniacal jerksMay 16 22:18
DaemonFC:)May 16 22:18
schestowitzNow I'm about 200May 16 22:18
GoForbes28sounds rightMay 16 22:18
schestowitzWorking my way upwards, trying not to gain fat, just muscleMay 16 22:18
GoForbes28I think you already have a lot of muscle, no?May 16 22:19
schestowitzThere's this girl in the gym.. :-)May 16 22:19
GoForbes28loloMay 16 22:19
GoForbes28I think you should star in the Expendables sequel :PMay 16 22:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, Gonad and I beat the crap out of each other a few timesMay 16 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh I thought I had chickenpox when I was little, my mother is not sure but thinks so as well. I'm now screwed for a couple of weeks.May 16 22:19
DaemonFCthe last time that happened I broke his hand in three placesMay 16 22:20
GoForbes28hi thistlewebMay 16 22:20
ThistleWebheyMay 16 22:20
GoForbes28I tried SimplyMepis out, and it seems polished, kinda like old KubuntuMay 16 22:20
GoForbes28May want to give it a try, no XFCE though :(May 16 22:21
GoForbes28and there is the proprietary stuff I'm trying to avoid, but you probably could standMay 16 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mono lives ... in new startup Xamarin (ZDNet): http://zd.net/lmUeO0May 16 22:21
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DaemonFClast time I tried Mepis, it simply didn't want to recognize my NICMay 16 22:21
DaemonFC:)May 16 22:21
schestowitz[22:19] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Gonad and I beat the crap out of each other a few timesMay 16 22:21
schestowitzGo RyanMay 16 22:21
GoForbes28Who is Ryan?May 16 22:21
DaemonFCmeMay 16 22:21
GoForbes28ohMay 16 22:22
schestowitz[22:20] <DaemonFC> the last time that happened I broke his hand in three placesMay 16 22:22
schestowitzHmm..May 16 22:22
GoForbes28thistleweb: Have you tried SimplyMepis 11?May 16 22:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: what OS does Gonad run?May 16 22:22
DaemonFChe called my mom a fucking bitch (nice guy)May 16 22:22
schestowitzGonad the Geico Caveman?May 16 22:22
DaemonFCBudweiserOS?May 16 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Nothing like a financial crisis to cut spending on spy toys - US Congress Tries To Cut Body Scanner Funding - http://ur1.ca/471foMay 16 22:23
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schestowitzGonad: "I can has OS"? "?May 16 22:23
ThistleWebyeah it's got less annoying notificationsMay 16 22:23
GoForbes28Thistleweb: It seems to use Synaptic for updatingMay 16 22:23
GoForbes28no subprogramMay 16 22:23
ThistleWeband I care why?May 16 22:24
GoForbes28I dunno, I was just pointing some things I found curiousMay 16 22:24
schestowitzSaving a mother from an abusive b/f is probably a fight worth the sacrificeMay 16 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Ice Cream Sandwich to Reuninte Phone and Tablet for Android http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/ice-cream-sandwich-announced/May 16 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Lodsys Responds To In-App Purchasing Patent Controversy http://is.gd/Y120PfMay 16 22:24
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GoForbes28thistleweb: sorryMay 16 22:25
GoForbes28:(May 16 22:25
schestowitzbrbMay 16 22:25
ThistleWebyeah a debian based system using synaptic surely must be uniqueMay 16 22:25
GoForbes28no I meant the update notifications point to synapticMay 16 22:26
GoForbes28unlike Ubuntu or Debian where they go the "Program Updates" programMay 16 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Miguel de Icaza Creates Company to Support Mono http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/de-icaza-creates-company-to-support-mono/May 16 22:26
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DaemonFCZOMG UPDATE INDICATORS!!!!!May 16 22:26
GoForbes28FFSMay 16 22:26
GoForbes28I'm saying is utilizes synaptic more than in other distros, which try to bury it under paddingMay 16 22:27
GoForbes28ala no pandering towards the inexperiencedMay 16 22:28
GoForbes28even though synaptic is arguably for noobsMay 16 22:28
GoForbes28now are we all on the same page?May 16 22:29
ThistleWebit's just a slightly different default on the one of 100's of debian based distros out thereMay 16 22:29
GoForbes28yepMay 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @lxnews: Miguel de Icaza Creates Company to Support Mono http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/de-icaza-creates-company-to-support-mono/ !loMay 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Miguel de Icaza Creates Company to Support Mono http://lxnews.org/2011/05/16/de-icaza-creates-company-to-support-mono/May 16 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The PROTECT IP Act Is About The Old Media Industry Going To War With The Internet http://is.gd/PRcT4tMay 16 22:29
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ThistleWebdebian don't preinstall synaptic, others do but use a separate updaterMay 16 22:29
GoForbes28how was your day, thistleweb?May 16 22:29
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ThistleWebwell, I'm still aliveMay 16 22:30
GoForbes28good to hear :)May 16 22:30
GoForbes28I assume though that would mean a rather crappy day otherwise for youMay 16 22:30
GoForbes28judging by your toneMay 16 22:31
GoForbes28thistleweb: Miguel's new "company" comes from nowhere else than Bellevue...WAMay 16 22:33
ThistleWebwhat has that specifically to do with me?May 16 22:33
GoForbes28nothing, just information for allMay 16 22:33
ThistleWeball very interesting I'm sure, but nothing to do with meMay 16 22:34
GoForbes28of course notMay 16 22:34
GoForbes28just catching you up on today's eventMay 16 22:34
GoForbes28sMay 16 22:34
ThistleWebyet I still see yet another xchat alert popping over the top of stuff I'm trying to readMay 16 22:34
ThistleWebI don't follow miguel's careerMay 16 22:34
GoForbes28ohMay 16 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Someone just told me that pimping their music on !LO was one of the biggest drivers to their page. That is awefully nice to hear. :)May 16 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Congratulations to @migueldeicaza on the creation of Xamarin - http://www.xamarin.com/May 16 22:34
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GoForbes28sorryMay 16 22:34
GoForbes28are you ok, Gordon?May 16 22:34
schestowitzjono??May 16 22:35
GoForbes28sorry for bothering youMay 16 22:35
ThistleWebon the plus side, so far you're not on the same scale of annoyingness with alerts as sebMay 16 22:35
*schestowitz installs jono-runtime for desktopawesomeness :-)May 16 22:35
GoForbes28I didn't know of the alerts you get, otherwise I would trim back the direct messagesMay 16 22:36
GoForbes28I'll use "Gordon" instead for now onMay 16 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I consider a site that delivers timely and relevant Ubuntu news to be a pretty good thing.May 16 22:36
GoForbes28so you aren't bombarded with notificationsMay 16 22:36
GoForbes28Ok with you? :)May 16 22:36
ThistleWebI give upMay 16 22:37
GoForbes28uh, what?May 16 22:37
GoForbes28I don't understandMay 16 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] via @schestowitz: The mystery of the missing wi-fi in !Mageia / !Mandriva http://is.gd/INoToRMay 16 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm posting from my Ubuntu 11.04 Unity powered lapop. My Kubuntu KDE SC 4.6.3 desktop just keeps on freezing :-(May 16 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh thanks!May 16 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Russian rumor: Microsoft to buy Nokia for $30bn http://tinyurl.com/6g259xx !microsoft !windows !nokia !mvpbuzz - Just a rumor though!May 16 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I can tell it is evening in Europe as another Californian afternoon of bitching kicks off on identi.ca. Shocked. ;-)May 16 22:39
jonoschestowitz eh?May 16 22:39
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Real-Rustylove time diffMay 16 22:41
GoForbes28Sorry Gordon, I'm kind of tired today, hard to focusMay 16 22:41
GoForbes28I don't want to piss you off, that's for sureMay 16 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon It is. I just think we should encourage F/OSS work instead of supporting pipe dreams about companies that don't want our money.May 16 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !mdv http://identi.ca/conversation/71208344May 16 22:43
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Real-Rustyhumm see from the apology that I missed a good conversationMay 16 22:43
ThistleWebmaybe I'm just odd, but I use nick alerts for when I specifically want to talk to someone so they know I'm talking to them, not for some general comment aimed at the channelMay 16 22:43
GoForbes28Oh, that's what I do tooMay 16 22:44
ThistleWebreally?May 16 22:44
ThistleWebokMay 16 22:44
GoForbes28anytime I've used your username, I'm talking to youMay 16 22:44
GoForbes28unless it is clear we are talking to each otherMay 16 22:44
GoForbes28but the username is for only conversation purposesMay 16 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Love it how everything people don't agree with is immediately "bitching". We can't all be happy-go-lucky all the time. ;)May 16 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh possibly, but it seems like 90% of your dents are complaining about other people's viewpoints or choices. Sounds like bitching to me.May 16 22:44
ThistleWeb<GoForbes28> but the username is for only conversation purposes  << exactly, but using it for stuff that should be thrown into the channel, not directed at anyone, that's my pointMay 16 22:45
GoForbes28Hence, when I tell you about the suspiciousness about Miguel's new company, I am actually talking to youMay 16 22:45
GoForbes28Because everyone else here knows about it :)May 16 22:45
ThistleWebso it's safe to assume everyone who cares, knowsMay 16 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Is that based on your knowledge of design apps? IMHO only Lightroom would be irreplacable and that isn't a CS product I think.May 16 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh nothing personal, I just notice a lot more of it seems to happen on identi.ca and particularly around this time. :-)May 16 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Someone needs to be there to balance out all the love and awesomeness flowing in from California. ;)May 16 22:46
GoForbes28It isn't so much about Miguel's new company so much it is about MS having a new proxy, and MS-involvement like this is something I though interested youMay 16 22:46
ThistleWeband you assume I don't read stuff in the channel? that if it's not directed at me I'll miss it?May 16 22:47
GoForbes28Well, you log offMay 16 22:47
msb_Could I talk with someone here via SIP please?  I've successfully done the ekiga echo test.May 16 22:47
GoForbes28so I assume you don't record the offline messagesMay 16 22:47
GoForbes28because I can't eitherMay 16 22:47
ThistleWebmsb_: I'm cursed when it comes to sip, nothing sip works for meMay 16 22:47
GoForbes28msb_ I have sipMay 16 22:47
GoForbes28does it have to be ekiga?May 16 22:47
msb_GoForbes28: I'm markbilk@ekiga.netMay 16 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh nope, based on my experience of what people consistently have queried about since I got involved in Open Source.May 16 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] "[Heaven] is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark." #StephenHawking !q http://ur1.ca/46xn3 #science #religionMay 16 22:48
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schestowitzjono: jokeMay 16 22:48
jonoschestowitz :-)May 16 22:48
schestowitzlost in textMay 16 22:48
msb_Yes, since skype is now an object of hate/rejection/etc.May 16 22:48
GoForbes28Can ekiga SIP only work in Ekiga, or does it work with SIP communicator now?May 16 22:48
ThistleWebI don't trawl back through offline stuff, I assume the various tech sites and forums I visit will cover it, so I'll see it anywayMay 16 22:48
schestowitzReal-Rusty: hey, how are you? :-)May 16 22:48
GoForbes28ok gordonMay 16 22:48
msb_I think all sip clients should work together.May 16 22:48
GoForbes28I'll keep that in mind in the futureMay 16 22:49
GoForbes28but I only direct these things at you because I care about youMay 16 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @stav: !stats Congratulations to @andyc for becoming only the third human to hit the 30,000 dent mark on !denticatorMay 16 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Lots of people want lots of things. The question is is it based on actual facts?May 16 22:49
GoForbes28not to think you aren't keeping up with what's going on or anythingMay 16 22:49
Real-Rustymsb_: I agree SIP should communicate with any SIPMay 16 22:49
GoForbes28okMay 16 22:49
GoForbes28I'll have to get SIP communicator again, that'll take a secMay 16 22:50
schestowitzmsb_you didn't answerMay 16 22:50
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GoForbes28really wish we could test PSI+, which isn't SIP (it's jabber), but doesn't work on Thistleweb's computer either :SMay 16 22:50
msb_schestowitz: I tried to answer.  Of course ekiga gives no indication of what effing button to push to answer!!!May 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I am a big fan of "live and let live" and let people make their own minds up - sometimes identi.ca sounds like a broken record :-(May 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Most of the people in that thread couldn't draw a chicken in either Inkscape, Illustrator, the GIMP or Photoshop I'd wager.May 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I don't think it matters, need is need, whether utilized or not. In any case, let them want it, what is the big deal?May 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] via @schestowitz: Considerations on Mondorescue packaging for !Mageia http://is.gd/9CaVKoMay 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon People say that a lot. I wonder if the noise just hides it on Twitter. I personally found the inane drivel on there nauseating...May 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh Adobe know most of their users are illegal installs, when peeps say they want PS, they mean they want a working illegal install of PSMay 16 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon The big deal is that with all the money wasted on Adobe's crap, we could code our own in a snap and make it proper F/OSS.May 16 22:51
schestowitzit's in the kde notification thingMay 16 22:51
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schestowitz*thingMay 16 22:51
schestowitzBut anyway, it worksMay 16 22:51
schestowitzI can see you as online and dialMay 16 22:51
GoForbes28ThistleWeb: Your issue is very weird (SIP, etc.)May 16 22:51
GoForbes28Can't tell if it is a driver, OS, or connection problemMay 16 22:51
GoForbes28Still baffles me to this dayMay 16 22:52
ThistleWebit's never actually worked on the netbook, the last I tried it and got it working was from ubuntu on the desktopMay 16 22:52
msb_schestowitz: I'm trying to dial you but nothing happens.May 16 22:52
GoForbes28ThistleWeb: On the same ISP?May 16 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Somebody recently calculated that the license fees from the people clamoring on OMG would give us $13+ million to work with.May 16 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Must be a cultural difference. I'm a fan of "say it as you see it". That's what I loved about LugRadio back in the day, actually.May 16 22:53
ThistleWebyeahMay 16 22:53
GoForbes28ok, rules out connectionMay 16 22:53
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GoForbes28thistleweb: what were you running on the netbook?May 16 22:53
GoForbes28OS-wise?May 16 22:53
ThistleWebI've tried various distros, all the same issueMay 16 22:53
msb_If the ekiga echo test works does that mean my network settings, port holes, etc, are ok?May 16 22:53
GoForbes28ThistleWeb: but only on the netbook?May 16 22:54
Real-RustyThistleWeb: Are you using SIP ID through a domain or via an IPMay 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I see it a lot. I love identi.ca, and want it to succeed, but at times it feels like a narrow-minded old-boys-club.May 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @fabsh @jonobacon Someone needs to be there to balance out all the love and awesomeness flowing in from California. ;)May 16 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RD of @mageia for The !Mageia Group: Mageia abroad http://dlvr.it/Rt1H0May 16 22:54
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ThistleWebI've tried various combos of distros, apps, accounts and ipsMay 16 22:55
msb_The problem is, Skype just works, whereas I can't get ekiga/sip running even though I'm a goddamn software engineer!May 16 22:55
ThistleWebI get nothoingMay 16 22:55
GoForbes28But you said it works on your desktop, not on your netbookMay 16 22:55
msb_Maybe not a super good one, but still...May 16 22:55
GoForbes28with any OS on the desktop?May 16 22:56
ThistleWebI think it was ubuntu at the time I got it working beforeMay 16 22:56
ThistleWebmaybe like 9.10May 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh nothing wrong with "say it as you see it", but droning on at people who know your viewpoint is not particularly useful or productive.May 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Identica is an awesome community and it has succeeded already in that. Twitter is just the new AOL. Success is highly subjective.May 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh the peeps who will pay are pro offices, who mandate windows for general purpose + design or osx for the designersMay 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon @fabsh All depends on how it's done. If there was a Deb or RPM to install CS I'd say great, but a special Ubuntu deal very badMay 16 22:56
ThistleWebit was a while backMay 16 22:56
GoForbes28And it hasn't work since, on the desktop?May 16 22:56
msb_And there's no one in #ekiga to give any help.May 16 22:56
ThistleWebI've not tried itMay 16 22:56
GoForbes28hmmMay 16 22:56
ThistleWebthe thing with a voice chat network is that it's useful to have people to chat tooMay 16 22:57
Real-RustyGoForbes28: wonder if they have the same problem I had could not use SIP on laptop if desktop was signed in no clue whyMay 16 22:57
msb_Is sip communicator better than ekiga?May 16 22:57
ThistleWebotherwise it's just sapping ram that I can't spareMay 16 22:57
GoForbes28msb+ differentMay 16 22:57
GoForbes28msb_: differentMay 16 22:57
GoForbes28SIP communicator is multi-protocolMay 16 22:57
GoForbes28actually called something else nowMay 16 22:57
GoForbes28!google sip communicatorMay 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Jitsi (SIP Communicator) | Main / HomePage | http://www.jitsi.org/May 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Jitsi (SIP Communicator) | Main / Download | http://download.sip-communicator.org/May 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Jitsi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JitsiMay 16 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - SIP COMMUNICATOR - voip-info.org | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP%2BCOMMUNICATORMay 16 22:58
GoForbes28Jitsi, that's itMay 16 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon You think I'm droning on? I was just talking to @jancborchardt. You made your point. Feel free to carry on. :)May 16 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon @gvs But it looks like that line we drew around Skype was drawn on sand now. Is that such a good analogy?May 16 22:58
GoForbes28I don't think Thistleweb has a SIP-only issue though, PSI+ didn't work eitherMay 16 22:58
GoForbes28though that might have been the clientMay 16 22:58
GoForbes28I haven't not testing PSI+ voice/audio with anyone elseMay 16 22:59
GoForbes28so I can't say for sureMay 16 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I think Aq summed it up in http://is.gd/JtjnY8 - I don't consider this success.May 16 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RD of @mageia for The !Mageia Group: #Mageia was at #LinuxTag http://bit.ly/mxph8dMay 16 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I think you are at times you are a broken record in complaining about other people's and project's definition of software freedom.May 16 22:59
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GoForbes28msb_: do you have a jabber account?May 16 22:59
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GoForbes28msb_: or gmail?May 16 22:59
GoForbes28or other jabber compatible?May 16 23:00
msb_GoForbes28: Nope.May 16 23:00
MinceRgnMay 16 23:00
GoForbes28MinceR: see you laterMay 16 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Yeah, I remember that. I guess a community that encourages free speech isn't for everyone. But luckily, we have choice.May 16 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I am !listening to !TechBytes Episode 44 and quite enjoying it!May 16 23:01
MinceRyou tooMay 16 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Fair enough, you aren't the only person who thinks that. But I consider it important to talk about problems other people ignore.May 16 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I wouldn't use it, but I say a stand alone Linux version might grab some users who feel they can't make the leapMay 16 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jonobacon drawing lines in different ways means creating different picture, can we assume your picture has the metal devil horns? ;PMay 16 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh don't twist my words, I am all for free speech - I just get disappointed by the trolling that happens on here at times.May 16 23:03
schestowitz[22:52] <msb_> schestowitz: I'm trying to dial you but nothing happens.May 16 23:04
schestowitzSays you are not available nowMay 16 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] If you can't take serious discussion about serious topics, maybe you should go to Twitter and talk about #bieberfever.May 16 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I agree that discussing problems is good, but I rarely see solutions discussed here, just the the re-definition of the problems. ;-)May 16 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon How do you define trolling? That word is so meaningless, it's used as a smear more often then not.May 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon That's because there is no easy solution most of the time. That doesn't make the discussion invalid.May 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon The whole field of Ethics wouldn't exist if we discussed everything based on immediate solutions.May 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I define trolling as looped directed criticism without the intention of resolving the issue at hand in a constructive way.May 16 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how long will it be before a cabal of elites put fictitious politicians on the ballot paper? one person is every candidate from every partyMay 16 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh just because a solution doesn't currently exist, doesn't mean we should not strive to find it.May 16 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I told you how to resolve it: Stop worrying about Adobe and get cracking on helping the GIMP guys out.May 16 23:09
msb_schestowitz: OK, please try now.May 16 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh that is not a solution, that is an idea - how can we resource it? what are the goals? what would the roadmap be? how could you help?May 16 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Who is http://tech4all.status.net/macterryh and Why Are They Weirdly Capitalising Words In Sentences?May 16 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon How is that an argument against pointing out the problem in the first place?May 16 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon What? Now you want me to develop a complete bizdev plan for Gimp otherwise I can't talk about the issue? SERIOUSLY?May 16 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon But what sort of solution doesn't start as an idea? I can't think of one cc @fabshMay 16 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh no issue in people pointing out the problem, my issue generally with identi.ca is people whining without interest in resolving.May 16 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh to be clear: today's Adobe discussion is what I see as just one example in a patchwork that forms the problem I see.May 16 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] traktor (królewski!) o tramwaju (filozoficznym!) - czyli tak się bawi Filozofia! http://ur1.ca/471mmMay 16 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon And to be honest that sounds like a pretty good idea and a very good use of the funds cc @fabshMay 16 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Haia asks for Gaddafi's arrest, for authorizing the use of violence aganst opponents. Obama, watch out! #USAmaMay 16 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh my point is that all I ever see is complaints from you without practical suggestions and discussion of improvement.May 16 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I am not whining. I'm telling you what I think is wrong and what we need to do to fix it.May 16 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] this will be the kiss of death for #Nokia: http://ur1.ca/46zwz !n900May 16 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh yep, so between whining and a full bizdev plan is a practical discussion and collaboration around improvement, why not focus on that?May 16 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon And I see it as just another uphill battle against people innundating the world with corporate PR nonsense.May 16 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jonobacon no issue in people pointing out the problem, my issue generally with identi.ca is people whining without interest in resolving.May 16 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh how would PR people stop putting together a collaborative community plan to improve the current status quo?May 16 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Really? So I guess you've never heard me advocating GIMP, Inkscape, MyPaint and Blender? Or seen me help people on here using it?May 16 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I did. That was before you came along and said I needed to actually do stuff instead of discuss the issue.May 16 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] alguém aí chama o governo dos EUA pra derrubar o estádio Mané Garrincha e botar a culpa na Al-Qaeda?May 16 23:19
GoForbes28schestowitz: is your ekiga online?May 16 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh and that is a great contribution, but frankly, most of the content I see from you on here is unfocused re-definition of problems.May 16 23:21
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73644490May 16 23:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Monday, 16-May-11 20:54:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz progressive?May 16 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh maybe I missed it, but I have not seen a plan to resolve the issue in hand. apologies if I did miss it.May 16 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon I agree Photoshop poses a special hurdle for some us ers who want to move, because PS users tend to use ALL its featuresMay 16 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh how have I encouraged people to use proprietary software? I might say I use it at times, but how have I encouraged others to?May 16 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Maybe you are just focusing on dents that involve your name? I spend a lot more time talking about other things...May 16 23:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/psykoyiko/statuses/70243746117197824May 16 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr@psykoyiko: OH NO WHAT WILL BOYCOTT NOVELL DO NOW?!May 16 23:23
schestowitzlolMay 16 23:23
schestowitzmany mono trolls todayMay 16 23:23
GoForbes28change it's name to cover more issues? Oh wait...May 16 23:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/70232845389541377May 16 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr@verofakto: Thank god @migueldeicaza picked a name #boycottboy can't hope to pronounce correctly #XamarinMay 16 23:23
schestowitzlol Thank god LOLMay 16 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I don't doubt it, and I am sure I mainly see dents that involve my name, which is why I said it was trolling. ;-)May 16 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/adobe-on-creative-suite-for-linux-no-plans#comment-196413509May 16 23:24
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schestowitzMinceR will come up w/ funny spin to Xamarin nameMay 16 23:24
GoForbes28Wow, these trolls are unbelievableMay 16 23:24
GoForbes28Spamarin?May 16 23:25
schestowitzlolMay 16 23:25
schestowitztrojarin?May 16 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon You can't discount the leading by example issue tho. It has some effectMay 16 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh .. topics :)May 16 23:26
GoForbes28Hey Roy, out of curiousity, has there every been a ED article about Techrights?May 16 23:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/o0splitpaw0o/statuses/70189879023243264May 16 23:27
TechrightsBot-tr@o0splitpaw0o: @schestowitz Stallman is a weird Fellow, but a bookminder to remember the reasons he made software free scienceMay 16 23:27
schestowitzwhich ED?May 16 23:28
GoForbes28Encyclopedia DramaticaMay 16 23:28
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227977/sap_hit_with_us345_million_verdict_in_patent_case.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20063253-248.htmlMay 16 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SAP Hit With US$345 Million Verdict in Patent Case | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.95 KBMay 16 23:29
schestowitzGoForbes28: noMay 16 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lodsys posts FAQ on its in-app purchase patent | Apple Talk - CNET News .::. Size~: 132.62 KBMay 16 23:29
GoForbes28schestowitz: Then the trolls have not succeeded :)May 16 23:29
GoForbes28Not having an article on ED can be seen as an honourMay 16 23:30
GoForbes28I bet if the MSono trolls tried to put such an article, it would reveal their intentions since they aren't the "good" trolls but just MS PR mouthpiecesMay 16 23:30
DaemonFChttp://i.imgur.com/MybtA.jpgMay 16 23:31
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GoForbes28niceMay 16 23:31
GoForbes28for a second, I thought it was Banshee you were running, and then I came to my sensesMay 16 23:31
GoForbes28:)May 16 23:31
GoForbes28Fedora 15?May 16 23:32
DaemonFCI figured out how to make Firefox recognize Magnet linksMay 16 23:32
DaemonFCand use KDE file dialogs May 16 23:32
GoForbes28how?May 16 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon OK, I would have commented differently, but I guess we have to just disagree on that one.May 16 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh the group could then work together on outreach resources (e.g. posters, flyers) and organize events to raise awareness of the gimp.May 16 23:33
GoForbes28special compiling or extensions?May 16 23:33
DaemonFCinstall kgtk and then prefix the Firefox command in the menu shortcut with kgtk2-wrapper May 16 23:33
DaemonFCthen it will force it to use KDE dialogs instead of GTK+ ones May 16 23:33
GoForbes28it's experimental I assumeMay 16 23:33
DaemonFCbeen around for a while apparently May 16 23:33
GoForbes28otherwise it would be a more obvious functionMay 16 23:33
DaemonFCOpenSuse and Ubuntu have a Firefox KDE integration package that does thatMay 16 23:34
GoForbes28even Opera has KDE and GNOME modesMay 16 23:34
DaemonFCbut it also installs a couple extensions for native notification popups and to get Firefox to use KDE apps as file helpersMay 16 23:34
DaemonFCthe hack for the file dialogs is the sameMay 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] After an interesting discussion, getting back to work - thanks @fabshMay 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon We should talk to the Gimp people. They must now what they need most. I'm guessing devs. I wish I could code, I'd be in there nowMay 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "homo homini hummus" !qMay 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh gods. People keep innundating me with email. #NotEnoughHoursInTheFuckingDayMay 16 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Girlfriend already sound asleep, probably annoyed I stayed up way too long to argue. I'm a living Xkcd comic. Gah.May 16 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh agreed, but advocates who raise awareness of the gimp (focused on users) could then expose it to more devs which would be a winMay 16 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @rysiek: "homo homini hummus"May 16 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh but people are WRONG on the internet!May 16 23:38
schestowitzhttp://anditosan.blogspot.com/2011/03/bring-back-domino.htmlMay 16 23:39
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schestowitzDaemonFC: does the g in Gonad stand for GNU or?May 16 23:39
schestowitzANd is Monad mono-based?May 16 23:39
DaemonFCGonad The Barbarian May 16 23:40
DaemonFC:PMay 16 23:40
DaemonFCAs in, hey Gonad, haven't seen you in a while. Eat any good books lately?May 16 23:40
DaemonFCB-)May 16 23:40
schestowitzhttp://omgsuse.com/content/ten-days-opensuse-day-four-grub2?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+omgsuse+%28OMG%21+SUSE%21%29May 16 23:40
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schestowitzDaemonFC: is there a picture of Gonad (the not barbarian) online?May 16 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk They are. Story of my life. ;)May 16 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] General Turgidson signing off.May 16 23:41
GoForbes28I'll kick mono in gonadsMay 16 23:41
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Q used that like against Worf in a ST:TNG episode :PMay 16 23:42
DaemonFCwondering if someone would notice thatMay 16 23:42
DaemonFC:DMay 16 23:42
schestowitzJos acts like a kid: http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2011/03/yesss-it-is-out.htmlMay 16 23:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: all mine!: YESSS, it is out!!! .::. Size~: 78.75 KBMay 16 23:42
schestowitzsrsly tho, DaemonFC, is he in no convicts list?May 16 23:43
GoForbes28OH BOYZZ IT SO COOL FRIDAY FRIDAY GOTTA HAVE CEREAL!!!11May 16 23:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, everyone else in his family is either in and out of the county lockupMay 16 23:43
DaemonFCor in state prison for a good long time May 16 23:44
GoForbes28schestowitz: Jitsi/SIP comm. seems incompatible with Ekiga addressesMay 16 23:44
DaemonFCbut not him, somehowMay 16 23:44
DaemonFChis grandson just got a 10 year prison sentence, at age 16May 16 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh ditto! take care, pal!May 16 23:44
DaemonFCfor being a repeat sex offenderMay 16 23:44
DaemonFCthis time he gets to serve time in adult prison, just as soon as he turns 18May 16 23:45
DaemonFClet's see what they do with him there :)May 16 23:45
DaemonFCBubba sez: "I'm gonna make you squeal, piggy!!!"May 16 23:45
DaemonFCB-)May 16 23:45
GoForbes28woah, "Jos" is a rapist?May 16 23:45
GoForbes28I would love context hereMay 16 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] TV reminds that IMF's Strauss-Kahn must be presumed innocent. why oh why didn't it mention it WRT Assange, and Osama?May 16 23:46
DaemonFCmy mom's ex husband's grandson May 16 23:46
DaemonFC:PMay 16 23:46
DaemonFChe'll be 26 when he gets out of prisonMay 16 23:46
DaemonFCyou know, after working out for 16 hours a dayMay 16 23:46
DaemonFCso he'll be a bigger stronger meaner sex offenderMay 16 23:47
DaemonFCthat will probably become a serial killerMay 16 23:47
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GoForbes28uh, okMay 16 23:47
GoForbes28...May 16 23:47
DaemonFCI wish the state would save society the loss of his future victims and just give him the needle nowMay 16 23:48
DaemonFCif anyone deserves it May 16 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Have to sleep now. Early start aheadMay 16 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk yeah, everybody knows you're a wrong dog on the Internet ;-)May 16 23:48
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GoForbes28we could turn this IRC into such a good drama on HBO or somethinigMay 16 23:48
schestowitzGoForbes28: I see...May 16 23:48
GoForbes28Roy's AngelsMay 16 23:48
GoForbes28:PMay 16 23:48
schestowitz[23:45] <GoForbes28> woah, "Jos" is a rapist?May 16 23:48
schestowitz0_o??May 16 23:48
DaemonFCGoForbes28, The justice system is based on the notion of "rehabilitation", and it's not always possible May 16 23:48
GoForbes28as I said, contextMay 16 23:48
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GoForbes28schestowitz: You were jumping about in conversation, kinda got lost :PMay 16 23:49
DaemonFCI think they should just figure once gets you a prison sentence and twice is a habitMay 16 23:49
DaemonFCwith rapistsMay 16 23:49
DaemonFCand just give them the death sentence at that pointMay 16 23:49
GoForbes28schestowitz: "I see..." - In regards to what?May 16 23:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: the paedophile lobby urges government to lower age of "minor" for imprisonment :0/May 16 23:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yes, and the sickening part is they compare themselves to gay peopleMay 16 23:50
schestowitzah, that tooMay 16 23:50
schestowitzOld smear...May 16 23:50
GoForbes28yeah, that is very sickMay 16 23:50
DaemonFCand say they're the victims of the same kind of prejudice and injustice May 16 23:50
DaemonFCand that's just bullshit May 16 23:50
schestowitzCompare consentual sex between two of the same gender to one who cannot think for him/herselfMay 16 23:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz, It also gives the religious nuts more fuel for their anti-gay fireMay 16 23:51
schestowitzThe injection vencor for it sometimes goes like thisMay 16 23:51
DaemonFC"Oh look, child molesters = gay people!"May 16 23:51
GoForbes28brbMay 16 23:51
DaemonFCget the pitchforks Cleetus!May 16 23:51
Viper550oh did you hear, the mono developers who got layed off by Attachmartyr started their own company dealing with (surprise surprise) mini~May 16 23:51
schestowitz"Gary are promiscous" and they will "teach your klids to do it"May 16 23:51
Viper550*mono~May 16 23:51
schestowitzs/Gary/GayMay 16 23:51
schestowitzIt's a connotation smearMay 16 23:52
schestowitzConflating the twoMay 16 23:52
schestowitzViper550: yeahMay 16 23:52
schestowitzRegistered the domain at Microsoft(ish)May 16 23:52
schestowitzI would like to see who invests in them..May 16 23:53
schestowitz"[Microsoft's] Mr. Emerson and I discussed a variety of investment structures wherein Microsoft would 'backstop,' or guarantee in some way, BayStar's investment.... Microsoft assured me that it would in some way guarantee BayStar's investment in SCO." Larry Goldfarb, BayStar, key investor in SCOMay 16 23:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, I pretty much agree with the law as it is, you have sex with someone under 16, it's rape, and you go away for a long timeMay 16 23:53
schestowitzLas suse rlease eva? http://e-tote-kala.blogspot.com/2011/03/opensuse-114-new-hallmark-for-opensuse.htmlMay 16 23:54
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schestowitz*LastMay 16 23:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: what about two people aged 16?May 16 23:54
schestowitzDoes someone molest the other then?May 16 23:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, That's not a crime May 16 23:55
DaemonFCat least not in IndianaMay 16 23:55
schestowitzAnd you know it's trouble when the govt. criminialises something which happens all the timeMay 16 23:55
DaemonFCthere's also a 3 year lawMay 16 23:55
DaemonFCso if they're 17 and you're 20, it's not illegalMay 16 23:55
schestowitzokMay 16 23:55
*Viper550 is proudly making sure his high school isn't only represented online by a SharePoint page.May 16 23:55
DaemonFCthe state finally caught on that prosecuting the 18 year old for having sex with the 17 year old was pretty damned stupidMay 16 23:56
DaemonFCand they were ruining a lot of people's lives needlessly May 16 23:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: so at age 21 you can drink in the US *And*...May 16 23:56
schestowitzOr rather..May 16 23:56
Viper550I managed to successfully woo the board into setting me up a server appliance on their vSphere instanceMay 16 23:56
schestowitzIn the US you can sleep with someone who is unmder 18 until you're 21May 16 23:56
schestowitzAnd then they compensate with booze (joke)May 16 23:57
DaemonFCschestowitz, The laws are different in every stateMay 16 23:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: and obviously it caries across statesMay 16 23:57
DaemonFCin Kentucky, the age of consent is 14May 16 23:57
DaemonFCwoohooMay 16 23:57
schestowitzI saw RKMS criticising some of these lawsMay 16 23:57
Viper550of course I put an EL6 varient on itMay 16 23:57
schestowitzAnd then his haters tried to call him a pedophileMay 16 23:57
schestowitzSame when he argued against criminalisation of potMay 16 23:57
schestowitzViper550: ewww...May 16 23:58
DaemonFCI don't think pot should be illegalMay 16 23:58
schestowitzshredpoint?May 16 23:58
Viper550Scientific Linux. May 16 23:58
DaemonFCwar on plant that grows out of the ground May 16 23:58
DaemonFCnot so catchy?May 16 23:58
DaemonFCwar on mushrooms that grow in cow shitMay 16 23:58
DaemonFC:)May 16 23:59
schestowitzViper550: rhel rebrandMay 16 23:59
DaemonFChow about that?May 16 23:59
schestowitzsniff sniffMay 16 23:59
schestowitzI'll make me some coffeeMay 16 23:59
schestowitzAnd teaMay 16 23:59
Viper550yeah. cause CentOS is slowly deterioratingMay 16 23:59
schestowitzFrom weed... tea leavesMay 16 23:59
DaemonFCnothing slow about that May 16 23:59
schestowitzIt has a drug in itMay 16 23:59
Viper550and being endorsed by Microsoft for use in Hyper-VMay 16 23:59
schestowitzKeeps me awakeMay 16 23:59
schestowitzViper550: seems soMay 16 23:59
schestowitzThey got an exra dev in SLMay 16 23:59

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