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schestowitz_Goblin: move movement?May 18 00:05
schestowitzI hate thatMay 18 00:05
schestowitzI only use the mouse when I need to point at somethingMay 18 00:05
schestowitzwindows are better spread between desktopsMay 18 00:05
schestowitzThen you switch by moving between workspaces (I like to set up CTRL F[1..12] forthat))May 18 00:06
schestowitzSo to type in IRCMay 18 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] AntiCopy - Joomla! Extension must be the most !opensourse software I've ever come across - it's !GPL too http://extensions.joomla.org/extensMay 18 00:06
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schestowitzCTRL+F4, then type whatever, coding go to CTRL+F8... RSS on CTRL+F2May 18 00:06
schestowitzUbuntu is possibly upsetting power usersMay 18 00:07
schestowitz'Unifying' the srong users 'into' the n00bs' mindsetMay 18 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @thistleweb Eight-year-old Botox user taken into care in America http://is.gd/lW2HpvMay 18 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC - Newsbeat - Eight-year-old Botox user taken into care in America .::. Size~: 47.16 KBMay 18 00:08
schestowitz"user"May 18 00:09
schestowitzBotox "consumer" :-)May 18 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] More details on my devious community scaling and mentoring plans in the 11.10 cycle - http://is.gd/KR6c5c #ubuntuMay 18 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Register: Aussie cops grab journo for reporting !Facebook vuln demo %u2022 The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/17/oz_cop_vuln_May 18 00:11
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: so what do you think of Chrome OS?May 18 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: @jonobacon, "live & let live" only works for things that don't harm anyone; can't extend to oil spills or other bad corp actsMay 18 00:14
Ziomatrixschestowitz: are you referring to the Unity desktop? Well its supposed to be best used on budget netbooks with low res screensMay 18 00:15
DaemonFCoptimized for 320 x 200May 18 00:16
DaemonFCB-)May 18 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And I think I will retire shortly.......May 18 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Aussie cops grab journo for reporting !Facebook vuln demo http://ur1.ca/47dpvMay 18 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tomorrow is Free Byron day ... WOOT! http://ur1.ca/473s9 [day 331] !freeByron http://ur1.ca/47dqvMay 18 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aussie cops grab journo for reporting Facebook vuln demo • The Register .::. Size~: 22.16 KBMay 18 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Byron ! «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 44.93 KBMay 18 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/laurelrusswurm-20110517T231925-kygsfcm.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.68 KBMay 18 00:21
schestowitzZiomatrix: here's my dough w/ it..May 18 00:22
schestowitzI haven't used itMay 18 00:22
schestowitzI saw videosMay 18 00:22
schestowitzSo I generally know how it worksMay 18 00:22
schestowitzAs though I watch someone used it over her/his shoulderMay 18 00:22
schestowitzAnd i also read reviews on blogs I trust cause I read them for yearsMay 18 00:22
schestowitzSome people like unity, but maybe about 20% of the peopleMay 18 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Groklaw – "The blog that made a difference" http://is.gd/0t9ati it would be so strange without her around. She helped so much.May 18 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @kevieMay 18 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw – "The blog that made a difference" - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.09 KBMay 18 00:23
schestowitzVery few have only good things to sayMay 18 00:23
schestowitzCanonical execs leaving does not bode wellMay 18 00:23
schestowitzI think there might be a sentiment inside there that they disappointed some hard-earned usersMay 18 00:23
schestowitzjono is hereMay 18 00:24
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: it seems to me ChromeOS and Ubuntu Unity are competing for similar functions. The former has more services built in and may offer games while the latter is far more flexible. Both seem to be modern iterations of Oracle's idea for a nettop dumb terminal.May 18 00:24
schestowitzI know he can't criticise it, even if he likes it (through self-convincingl, pracitcing, or otherwise)May 18 00:24
DaemonFCChromeOS is only intended to run ChromeMay 18 00:24
schestowitzZiomatrix: yesMay 18 00:24
schestowitzand ubutnu did all right with some OEMs before GOogle came alongMay 18 00:25
schestowitzNow we have Mac Asay BSing and p0oping on GoogleMay 18 00:25
schestowitzIt was under his watch that Ubutnu almost made a front end to b0nf the default SE in FirefoxMay 18 00:25
DaemonFCyeah, but he left Canonical May 18 00:25
DaemonFCright?May 18 00:25
schestowitzUser outcry seems to be why they aborted and retreated from this "sw33t dill"May 18 00:26
DaemonFCbong searchMay 18 00:26
DaemonFCnow with assbook integration May 18 00:26
schestowitz"nice cheeks!"May 18 00:26
jonoschestowitz the Canonical execs leaving are not because of CanonicalMay 18 00:27
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: now it seems Facebook wants to find out not only about you but voluntarily wants you to hand them info about relatives tooMay 18 00:27
jonoit is because they want to do other other thingsMay 18 00:27
jonoMatt Asay left to join another company and Matt Z and Neil L are both doing startupsMay 18 00:28
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I know Google is also in the datamining business but Facebook just seems more sleezy in the way they do it.May 18 00:28
DaemonFCjono, They've done their job, get Microsoft software into Ubuntu and make it work, look, and feel like a broken Mac OSMay 18 00:28
jonoDaemonFC, wha wha wha!May 18 00:29
jono:-)May 18 00:29
DaemonFCoh you know I just can't stay mad at you :PMay 18 00:29
jono:-)May 18 00:29
DaemonFCget over here and give me a hug :DMay 18 00:29
*jono hugs DaemonFCMay 18 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @copiesofcopies Every time I tell Firefox "I understand the risks" I feel like I'm lying a little bit.May 18 00:29
DaemonFCyay!!!May 18 00:29
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: has anyone forked out the worthwhile bits of OpenSuSe yet, such as its KDE integration and switchable graphics packages?May 18 00:30
DaemonFCyeah, Kubuntu is carrying their Firefox integration package May 18 00:30
DaemonFCit's really just a bunch of KDE integration hacks rolled into one packageMay 18 00:31
DaemonFCit is convenient May 18 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @hypatiadotca Great !freebyron piece in Macleans from @jessebrown: http://ur1.ca/47dxl -asking ALL the right questions, let me tell you.May 18 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Byron Sonne gets bail. Finally. - Jesse Brown - Macleans.ca .::. Size~: 62.83 KBMay 18 00:31
DaemonFCit almost makes Firefox feels like it belongs in KDEMay 18 00:31
DaemonFC*feelMay 18 00:31
DaemonFCFedora has kgtk though, which can make any GTK+ app use KDE file dialogsMay 18 00:32
DaemonFCwhich is the biggest issue with Firefox and Chrome anywayMay 18 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RTH: Byron Sonne, Canada's Political Prisoner http://ur1.ca/47e00 !freeByronMay 18 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Byron Sonne, Canada's Political Prisoner - Raise the Hammer .::. Size~: 20.57 KBMay 18 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♺ @jonobacon: More details on my devious community scaling and mentoring plans in the 11.10 cycle - http://is.gd/KR6c5c #ubuntuMay 18 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @egerlach Use of remand (prison w/o sentencing) on the rise, now accounts for near 60% of incarcerations: http://ur1.ca/47asy !freebyronMay 18 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Providing More Scalable Community Growth And Mentoring  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 31.4 KBMay 18 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Daily, Tuesday, May 17, 2011. Study: Trends in the use of remand in Canada .::. Size~: 17 KBMay 18 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @q_e_d #G20 ‘geek’ Byron Sonne granted bail (via @TorontoStar): http://ur1.ca/47e6s !freebyron #g20report !Canada !cdnpoliMay 18 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Have some solid QA background? Interested in growing community? Come and work on my team: http://is.gd/mnyWn8 #ubuntuMay 18 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] At Mediabistro party in the Big Smoke. Good crowd. Plotting downfall of everything. Cheering Boston when I remember.May 18 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @guyparkinson Free Byron! http://ur1.ca/47e8q !Canada !cdnpoli #g20 #g20report !freeByronMay 18 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: G20 ‘geek’ Byron Sonne granted bail - thestar.com .::. Size~: 110.92 KBMay 18 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QA Community Coordinator: Inquire Within  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 34.03 KBMay 18 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man charged with possessing explosives before G20 granted bail | Posted Toronto | National Post .::. Size~: 74.63 KBMay 18 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Qu451 Court support callout: #ByronSonne granted bail! In court May 18, 9:30am, 361 University: http://ur1.ca/47ecy !freebyron #g20May 18 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Court Support Needed for Byron Sonne | Community Solidarity Network .::. Size~: 13.17 KBMay 18 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana are mutuals forbidden for some areas of commerce? if not, wonder why only "common" in a few areas. or am I more ignorant than i ...May 18 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh Learn !scheme: it's the easiest difficult programming language, and a core component of the !gimpMay 18 00:58
Ziomatrixschestowitz: so any videos on the latest MS at a Linux event unmasking?May 18 01:00
ZiomatrixBtw, in the video from last year I don't understand French but are there folks dressed like Voltaire? May 18 01:02
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73732967May 18 01:04
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 23:31:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I did a search on #attachmate as a liquidator and came up with http://v.gd/bhslIt at #groklaw.  Interesting includes #microsoftMay 18 01:04
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DaemonFCThe Mono team was summarily liquidated May 18 01:07
DaemonFCall but its most prominent promoters over at ubuntu May 18 01:07
DaemonFC:)May 18 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ghostler I did a search on #attachmate as a liquidator and came up with http://v.gd/bhslIt at #groklaw. Interesting includes #microsoftMay 18 01:08
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73733116May 18 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 23:34:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz First legal blog i ever read - got me reading more about the subject in general.May 18 01:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73733399May 18 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 23:41:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Sounds like the FSF hates funMay 18 01:09
schestowitzsounds like #mono boosters do not like the !fsf which says a lot about how they view software freedomMay 18 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@ghostler !techrights has about a dozen articles about Elliot, Singer, and the rest of that white-collar crockery. Just search the site.May 18 01:09
schestowitz[00:27] <jono> schestowitz the Canonical execs leaving are not because of CanonicalMay 18 01:10
schestowitzCan you elaborate on that?May 18 01:10
schestowitzOhMay 18 01:10
schestowitz[00:27] <jono> it is because they want to do other other thingsMay 18 01:10
schestowitzOK, but why not Canonical stuff anymore?May 18 01:11
schestowitzOK, but why not Canonical stuff anymore?May 18 01:11
DaemonFCschestowitz, The Mono people absolutely believe in software freedom. They are firmly committed to ensuring that everyone has the freedom to use Microsoft software.May 18 01:11
DaemonFC:)May 18 01:11
schestowitz[00:27] <jono> it is because they want to do other other things[01:00] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: so any videos on the latest MS at a Linux event unmasking?May 18 01:12
schestowitzYes, I linked to themMay 18 01:12
schestowitzOne that I downloaded was over 300MBMay 18 01:12
schestowitzI also put a youtube one from another angleMay 18 01:12
schestowitz[01:07] <DaemonFC> all but its most prominent promoters over at ubuntu May 18 01:12
schestowitzNot reallyMay 18 01:13
schestowitzIt's just a perceived thingMay 18 01:13
schestowitzActually, clem from Mint puts even more Mono than Ubuntu in his distroMay 18 01:13
schestowitzExcept banshee, for nowMay 18 01:13
schestowitzhe puts in fspot and gnome-do IIRCMay 18 01:13
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I think someone needs to warn the Mint community, its a lot smaller and thus more receptiveMay 18 01:14
schestowitzI think Clem is scary like that...May 18 01:15
DaemonFCit's just a ZOMG ECMA STANDARD!!!!1111May 18 01:15
schestowitzIf you tell him how to run his distroMay 18 01:15
DaemonFC:)May 18 01:15
DaemonFCleave MONO ALOOOOOOONE!!!!May 18 01:16
schestowitzHe has another person working full-time on Linux Mint now..May 18 01:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: Noooooooooooooooooo..May 18 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Byron Sonne granted bail; Crown to challenge conditions of his release http://ur1.ca/47eje !FreeByron !cdnpoli !Canada #G20May 18 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Byron Sonne granted bail; Crown to challenge conditions of his release | Media Co-op .::. Size~: 31.1 KBMay 18 01:16
Ziomatrixschestowitz: It looks like someone tried: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=28356May 18 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint Forums • View topic - Please NO mono in Mint .::. Size~: 80.38 KBMay 18 01:16
*schestowitz looksMay 18 01:16
DaemonFCschestowitz, How much did you pay to get Windows XP Mode in your Windows 7?May 18 01:17
DaemonFC:DMay 18 01:17
Ziomatrixschestowitz: luckily I use XFCEMay 18 01:17
schestowitzClem:May 18 01:18
schestowitz"May 18 01:18
schestowitzOK, I don't want to join the debate... but here are two facts:May 18 01:18
schestowitz- I don't see anything wrong with Mono. I'm open and interested in hearing valid arguments, but I won't give any attention to FUD regarding this technology. I don't care about software patents, about empty threats or about where great ideas originate from.May 18 01:18
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well just check the price difference between Home Premium and Professional :-PMay 18 01:18
schestowitz- I'm thinking about replacing Tomboy Notes with GNote in Linux Mint 8. The last time I looked into it, it seemed faster, lighter and more suitable.May 18 01:18
schestowitzClem.May 18 01:18
schestowitz"May 18 01:18
DaemonFCZiomatrix, running Windows XP really slowly on top of Windows 7 is a feature?May 18 01:18
schestowitzSo it's a tad out of dateMay 18 01:19
DaemonFCI never got thatMay 18 01:19
DaemonFCit's a halfassed answer so people can run old office and tax software that will never be fixed to run on Windows 7May 18 01:19
schestowitz"May 18 01:19
schestowitzI wouldn't mind living in the USA... I visited once and I really liked it. Not to mention I'm a big fan of American football... well anyway..May 18 01:19
schestowitzThe Universal edition isn't all that bad. It comes with an item in the Sound & Video menu, which when you click on it, installs all the missing packages and brings you back to the equivalent of the Main Edition... you just need to click with the mouse really. :)May 18 01:19
schestowitzClem.May 18 01:19
schestowitz"May 18 01:20
Ziomatrixschestowitz: that topic shows what has happened now.May 18 01:20
Ziomatrixschestowitz: do you like American football?May 18 01:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, The Universal Edition is jsut to keep the CD legal to distribute in countries that have software patentsMay 18 01:20
schestowitz_Goblin: traffic on our new site is increasingMay 18 01:21
schestowitzZiomatrix: used toMay 18 01:21
schestowitzI don't watch TV anymoreMay 18 01:21
schestowitzexcept in the gymMay 18 01:21
schestowitzTBH, I usually just put the music channel on (new TV) and type some stuff, chat with friends, so it's not proper TV watchingMay 18 01:22
schestowitzTV doesn't have honest stuffMay 18 01:22
schestowitzCrudeMay 18 01:22
schestowitzI like people being politically incorrect sometimes and blunt... and flamewars can be educational and not hurtful if the feeble-hearted are outMay 18 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to the incomparable Ella Fitzgerald's cover of "Night & Day"May 18 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @stickster !Fedora 15 declared GOLD. If you must wait for the official mirrors, look for it Tuesday around 1400 UTC! http://ur1.ca/47fblMay 18 01:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD! .::. Size~: 6.24 KBMay 18 01:23
schestowitzTV filters out a lot of stuff just because *someone* /somewhere/ might chooce to feel insultedMay 18 01:23
schestowitz*ChooseMay 18 01:23
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well PBS or publically funded television here has some interesting materialMay 18 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Has #sap gotten sick of #Novell and gone back to #RedHat like pre-2007 sap? http://is.gd/TZK0Zr Red Hat expands SAP relationshipMay 18 01:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat expands SAP relationship | Triangle Business Journal .::. Size~: 84.54 KBMay 18 01:28
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73735302May 18 01:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 00:20:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz oops, just noticed I missed the “:-D” when writing it was your fault.  I hope you realized it was a jokeMay 18 01:30
schestowitzI did not take it literally, I made an observation regardlessMay 18 01:30
DaemonFCFedora is now more like an end user product and less like an unstable playground that it used to beMay 18 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana is the correction retroactive? I vaguely recall releasing design docs I wrote as work for hire under OPLMay 18 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In USENET, the anti-Linux trolls have officially lost. They gave up FUDing #gnu #Linux and are now insulting people instead. #thenYouWinMay 18 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva I did not take it literally, I made an observation regardlessMay 18 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Looking at #Novell news, it is strange to accept that it's no longer a (public) company and is much smaller. Novell is just history now.May 18 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva All#OPL licensed material originally ©'d by !RedHat is retroactively relicensed under !CC BY-SA to extent of Red Hat's © interestMay 18 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How will Microsoft stop the influx of users to non-Microsoft-taxed ( #swpats ) distributions of #GNU #Linux - in #amazon they leap 2 clientsMay 18 01:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: isn't SAP an enterprise software suite company, so they still need an OS ie host to run their products on.May 18 01:34
schestowitzyesMay 18 01:35
schestowitzThey did some Novell/MS deals back around 2007May 18 01:35
DaemonFCMicrosoft likes to pretend they have enterprise software but if you actually try to use Windows Server you'll find out fast that it's really just Windows Vista/7 with tweaks May 18 01:35
schestowitzPrior to that they were RHEL certifiedMay 18 01:35
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schestowitzNovell let them pay Microsoft for LinuxMay 18 01:36
DaemonFCI really don't think they get the concept of a lightweight server May 18 01:36
Ziomatrixschestowitz: it should be more surprising that Red Hat is more receptive, but I guess it shows how insecure they feel about the current market with bigger companies like Oracle and HP looking into scalability May 18 01:36
DaemonFCeven Server Core is pretty heavy May 18 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat should confront #amazon over the fact that it pays #Microsoft for RHEL servers.Instead, Red Hat does PR showcases w/ Amazon. #swpatsMay 18 01:36
DaemonFCthey need to have a Linux distribution to prop up and take a cut fromMay 18 01:36
DaemonFCUbuntu is likely nextMay 18 01:36
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2008/March_2008_2/msg00104.html http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2008/March_2008_2/msg00104.htmlMay 18 01:36
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schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2010/August_2009-July_2010/msg01305.html http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2008/May_2008_1/msg00329.htmlMay 18 01:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [News] Red Hat Interview and More Wins .::. Size~: 8.81 KBMay 18 01:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [News] SAP Does Appliances on GNU and Ballnux .::. Size~: 9.82 KBMay 18 01:37
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2008/March_2008_1/msg00610.htmlMay 18 01:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [News] SAP Chooses GNU/Ballnux for New Solution .::. Size~: 9.7 KBMay 18 01:37
DaemonFCI wonder how long it will be before Microsoft has to admit that Windows is huge and unmaintainable May 18 01:38
schestowitzThey admittedMay 18 01:40
schestowitz!google allchin longhorn is a pigMay 18 01:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft Watch - Operating Systems - Allchin's 'Buy a Mac' E-Mail ... | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/allchins_buy_a_mac_email_exposed.htmlMay 18 01:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Got Ads?: Allchin: Vista is a Pig - Advertising revolving around ... | http://gotads.blogspot.com/2007/01/allchin-vista-is-pig.htmlMay 18 01:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - WinHEC 2004 Jim Allchin Longhorn Demo | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DLZVAOrmvZscMay 18 01:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Memex 1.1 » Blog Archive » The Allchin 2004 email | http://memex.naughtons.org/archives/2007/02/03/3667May 18 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is a strong correlation between #mono advocacy and !FSF bashing. The question is, can the correlation be causal? #disturbing for sure.May 18 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wayneborean PJ changed the world, and was the cause of a couple of chairs nearly reaching Low Earth OrbitMay 18 01:43
schestowitzDonkey Kong chair modMay 18 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @wayneborean Donkey Kong chair modMay 18 01:44
DaemonFCDEVELOPERS!!!! *throw chair* <repeat>May 18 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] We need to talk about Usenet, I'll try drop in early AM your time.May 18 01:46
schestowitzhttp://practical-tech.com/operating-system/android-has-a-gaping-network-security-hole/4075/May 18 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android has a gaping network security hole .::. Size~: 38.13 KBMay 18 01:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: SteveB died for your sinsMay 18 01:47
DaemonFCHe sweated for you!!!!!May 18 01:47
Ziomatrixschestowitz: kind of funny you say that considering what some people believe is coming this weekendMay 18 01:47
schestowitzHe had his chairs nailed to the ground for youMay 18 01:47
schestowitzZiomatrix: wait, it _doesn't_?May 18 01:48
DaemonFCHe wore a crown of Vista discs for you!May 18 01:48
schestowitzBut I did my food shopping accordingly...May 18 01:48
schestowitz:-(May 18 01:48
schestowitzNo rapture? How much cargo/boot room does Jesus bring for some canned food? Can I bring my PC with me?May 18 01:49
Ziomatrixschestowitz: funny that those folks tell whats coming and to repent, but they don't take a risk and go after the moneychangers in this worldMay 18 01:49
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/18/gates_defends_ballmer/May 18 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gates defends Ballmer's Skype gamble • The Register .::. Size~: 20.26 KBMay 18 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @lxnews Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans http://lxnews.org/2011/05/15/shuttleworth-proprietarisation-plans/May 18 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shuttleworth Hints at Possible Proprietarisation Plans .::. Size~: 29.89 KBMay 18 01:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: he has toMay 18 01:50
schestowitzotherwise it looks sillyMay 18 01:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, We're out of food, time to eat the Emus. Also, anyone else think it's a total sausagefest in here?May 18 01:50
schestowitzHe also defended him last yearMay 18 01:50
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Gates founded the 3 Es afterallMay 18 01:50
schestowitzIf Gates says anything Microsoft does is misguided, he sinks his own stockMay 18 01:50
schestowitzGates sez the world is warningMay 18 01:50
schestowitzThank you Gates, for those wonderful drops of wisdomMay 18 01:51
schestowitzGates tells Obama to lower tax for the rich and exempt philsnthrocapitalistsMay 18 01:51
schestowitzHe's rich, so he knows better than meMay 18 01:51
schestowitzI rust his judgment May 18 01:51
schestowitzGive this man a tax excemption!! :-) :-)May 18 01:51
Ziomatrixschestowitz: no its because American capitalism is the right hand of our foreign policy ;-)May 18 01:52
schestowitzLet him also decide for my kids' schooling :-)May 18 01:52
schestowitzPublic educationMay 18 01:52
schestowitzHe knows betterMay 18 01:52
Ziomatrixschestowitz: or I should say the leftMay 18 01:52
schestowitzCause public education sucksMay 18 01:52
schestowitzAnd he went to rpivate schooMay 18 01:52
schestowitzSo maybe he can make public schools as good as his private one :-) :-pMay 18 01:52
schestowitzCoz that kind of sounds right and makes sense, eh Arne Duncan?May 18 01:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Suggestions? All I know to do is blog http://ur1.ca/473s9 and dent/tweet to raise the !freeByron profile !cdnpoli !CanadaMay 18 01:53
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schestowitz[01:52] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: no its because American capitalism is the right hand of our foreign policy ;-)May 18 01:53
schestowitzExcept for the bankersMay 18 01:53
schestowitzThey need spme socialismMay 18 01:53
schestowitz!google "socialism for the rich"May 18 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor - Wikipedia ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_for_the_rich_and_capitalism_for_the_poorMay 18 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Joseph A. Palermo: Socialism for Wall Street, Capitalism for Main ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/socialism-for-the-rich-na_b_127121.htmlMay 18 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Socialism for the rich - Page 1 - Thomas Sowell - Townhall ... | http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2006/10/03/socialism_for_the_richMay 18 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - America's socialism for the rich | Joseph Stiglitz | Comment is ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/12/america-corporate-banking-welfareMay 18 01:53
Ziomatrixschestowitz: no like many great people in public office like Michael Bloomberg he wishes to make Private Schools the only viable option for neighborhoods that can support it and others who are fortunate enough to get picked for grants. Let the rest rot in the public cesspool May 18 01:54
schestowitzMichael Bloomberg is a smart manMay 18 01:54
schestowitzHe has a lot of moneyMay 18 01:54
schestowitzSmart people will save the US of AMay 18 01:54
schestowitzBloomberg was born in the ghetto and became a successful because he was so very smart ;-)May 18 01:55
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Mussolini would be proud May 18 01:55
schestowitzHe will guide all the poor black communities out of itMay 18 01:55
schestowitzCause in the world we have many hungry peopleMay 18 01:55
schestowitzInstead we should have 1 billion billionaires within the next 50 years ;-)May 18 01:55
schestowitz[hmm... inflation...*sneezes(]May 18 01:55
schestowitzreminder me of this new video I watched this morningMay 18 01:56
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_6Df4YcZIMay 18 01:57
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schestowitz[language warning]May 18 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris Is the opposite of "inept", "ept"?May 18 01:58
Ziomatrixschestowitz: at least I can give his administration credit for not being incompetent, they just seen to be scarily so when it comes to "streamlining" certain agencies. At least his personally appointed head of the Board of Education got the boot.  May 18 02:01
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73736910 http://identi.ca/conversation/71335194#notice-73736910May 18 02:02
TechrightsBot-tr@txt's status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 00:49:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't forget they are also Microsoft apologists.May 18 02:02
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: there are still a number of governors in the US that are grossly incompetent and really bend the powers they have towards their own opinion beyond mere policy.  May 18 02:02
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but enough of my personal political rants, what I find interesting is whats going to happen to that connected initiative in which the federal government wants to help furnish schools with the best broadband service and up to date computers.May 18 02:05
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73736774May 18 02:05
TechrightsBot-tr@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 00:46:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Donkey Ballmer Chair Mod? Wonder how much people would pay to be able to play it?May 18 02:05
Ziomatrixschestowitz: does politics become a real "us versus them" mentality in the UK too?May 18 02:05
schestowitz[02:05] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: but enough of my personal political rants, what I find interesting is whats going to happen to that connected initiative in which the federal government wants to help furnish schools with the best broadband service and up to date computers.May 18 02:06
schestowitzYou're in the US thoughMay 18 02:06
schestowitzIt's brokeMay 18 02:06
schestowitz[23:36] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] US hits credit limit http://is.gd/ffczyO "$14.3 trillion limit on federal borrowing .. risk a financial panic or another recession."May 18 02:06
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schestowitz^ this just inMay 18 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #copyright #cartel owns all your storage devices now. Pay 'em welfare whether you want to or not http://is.gd/Y0oPJB #criminalByDefaultMay 18 02:06
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jono<schestowitz> OK, but why not Canonical stuff anymore?May 18 02:06
jonobecause they have the itch to do the startup thingMay 18 02:06
jonomdz and Neil L had been at Canonical for quite a whileMay 18 02:07
schestowitzand the UK is apparently not doing too well, either.. I heard on the radio (no problems for my though)May 18 02:07
schestowitzjono: yes, but they didn't leave until nowMay 18 02:07
schestowitzYour argument fails to address the issue and I believe it's easy to see why (to an outside observer)May 18 02:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/70652433260482561May 18 02:08
TechrightsBot-tr@wayneborean: @_Goblin @schestowitz PJ didn't just help, she invented a new and dangerous way of working. Ask The SCO Group, or what is left of them.May 18 02:08
Ziomatrixschestowitz: good thing I stocked up and as long as my computer is behind a network with encryption they have no right to snoop in as what the DoJ stated to Google.May 18 02:10
Ziomatrixschestowitz: funny how contradictory government policies can be. Of course it can't be too tight since the FBI needs to get in every once in a whileMay 18 02:11
schestowitzI think it's the typical routineMay 18 02:11
schestowitzsomething like, "We screw the public badly and just before election time we do some showcasting to prove we serve the public"May 18 02:12
schestowitzNext elections are one week awayMay 18 02:12
schestowitzNow it's time to appeal to the public and party line, not just funders who bribe for the next 4-year roundMay 18 02:12
schestowitz*one year awayMay 18 02:12
schestowitzthe buildup anywayMay 18 02:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, The same people bribe both partiesMay 18 02:13
DaemonFCtheir agenda gets carried out either wayMay 18 02:13
schestowitzGoogle needs to set up back doors but also be lashed for it... for the cameras, so to speak. "Google, stage it and show the public you're sorry while we make angry faces... like Levin in front of Blenkfein"May 18 02:14
schestowitz*ankMay 18 02:14
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: its not that hard to figure out: http://www.opensecrets.org/May 18 02:14
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schestowitzDaemonFC: as long as those "pesky liberals" can't get into the two-horse raceMay 18 02:14
schestowitzhttp://www.unixmen.com/software/1719-boot-linux-in-your-browserMay 18 02:16
TechrightsBot-tr@: May 18 02:16
schestowitzscweetMay 18 02:16
schestowitzZiomatrix: DaemonFC shilled for ObamaMay 18 02:16
schestowitzHelping Obama's corproate funderMay 18 02:17
schestowitzI think it's called internship or summer placement. Shilling for business for no benefitMay 18 02:17
Ziomatrixschestowitz: this seems to be similar runtime environments that help Google get OpenGL applications work through Chrome.May 18 02:19
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I mean that the latest browsers are able to work as mini VMs.May 18 02:22
Ziomatrixschestowitz: perhaps thats why execs of companies like VMWare are quaking in their boots.May 18 02:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73737743May 18 02:23
TechrightsBot-tr@Jerald Vanderraad (jeraldv)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 01:04:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The correlation is surely causal. #mono has been under fire re: M$ uncertainty and the FSF is spearheading the legitimate !FUDMay 18 02:23
schestowitzyeahMay 18 02:25
schestowitzjono: has Microsoft contacted you trying to recruit you?May 18 02:27
schestowitzthe HR I meanMay 18 02:28
DaemonFCWhy would they recruit jono? He already gives them free endorsementsMay 18 02:29
schestowitzThey have been specifically been targetting people in those positions, Phipps for example. It's a good thing that they all decline.May 18 02:30
DaemonFCI don't get why anyone would use Ubuntu for audio work. Lennart Poettering already called their Pulseaudio setup an "insult".May 18 02:30
schestowitzMicrosoft has many employees deciding to "move on" or "Retire"May 18 02:30
schestowitzCause the company goes downhillMay 18 02:30
schestowitzTrying to get hip by buying skypeMay 18 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana yay, thanks, all fixed on my local copies, will republish momentarilyMay 18 02:31
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-and-Acer-Chromebooks-analyzed/?kc=rssMay 18 02:31
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schestowitzChromebooksMay 18 02:31
schestowitzSounds like a drugMay 18 02:31
schestowitzRitalinMay 18 02:32
schestowitzWould be a nice name for a girlMay 18 02:32
DaemonFCschestowitz,  Canonical has many employees deciding to "move on" or "Retire"May 18 02:32
schestowitzLike josephineMay 18 02:32
DaemonFCThey should have bought Skype to look hipMay 18 02:32
schestowitzno needMay 18 02:32
schestowitzubuntu.com front page has skypeMay 18 02:32
schestowitzit looks hipMay 18 02:32
schestowitzFirefox (FOSS), Thunderbird (FOSS)... Skype (Microsoft, proprietary)May 18 02:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva thank you.May 18 02:33
schestowitzThey still haven' changed thatMay 18 02:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, All they're missing is the IE logoMay 18 02:34
schestowitzThe Dell machine pictured has a nice shiny massive Bansh** logo in itMay 18 02:34
DaemonFCjono, When will Ubuntu have "The Internet"?May 18 02:34
schestowitzget your mono on a dell machine today.....May 18 02:34
schestowitzcheap .netMay 18 02:34
schestowitzand Microsoft^TM skype^TMMay 18 02:34
schestowitzAnyway, this cann be amendedMay 18 02:35
schestowitzJust change some apps, swap  aronndMay 18 02:35
schestowitzYour favourite apps: "Ekiga"May 18 02:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: got a SIP address yet?May 18 02:35
DaemonFCnope, whats your ZOMGMSSKYPE address? I'll call you when I get done rocking out with Banshee on Ubuntu, and buying MP3's from it so Ubuntu can siphon money from the GNOME project May 18 02:36
DaemonFCfree software, you know?May 18 02:37
schestowitzSe up SIPMay 18 02:37
DaemonFClike, totallyMay 18 02:37
schestowitzUse Ekiga. it's really so-aasy-even-Gonad-can-use-it simpleMay 18 02:37
DaemonFCthat sounds somewhere between tying your shoelaces and not choking to death on your own saliva easyMay 18 02:38
DaemonFCThe guy is retarded, his whole family is like something out of a The Hills Have Eyes movie May 18 02:39
schestowitzYou live in a town where back-shaving constituts foreplayMay 18 02:39
DaemonFCHE RAPED ME!!!!May 18 02:39
DaemonFCOPEN THE DOOR!!! *KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK!!!*May 18 02:40
DaemonFCI bit his dick as hard as I could and escaped!May 18 02:40
schestowitzMonom apologists come out banging http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Xamarin-launched/?kc=rssMay 18 02:40
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schestowitzDaemonFC: did she say that?May 18 02:40
DaemonFCyes, crazy bitchMay 18 02:41
schestowitzOuchMay 18 02:41
*Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-70-16-107-214.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #techrightsMay 18 02:41
schestowitzDoesn't sound rightMay 18 02:41
DaemonFCwell, he said he raped her anally and that he had a huge dickMay 18 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fedora 15 declared GOLD and set for release on May 24th http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-May/151531.html YAY!May 18 02:41
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schestowitzOK, if she can bite it, thn what the heck is it that prevented her fro esclapingMay 18 02:41
DaemonFCbut biting it to escape implies after he did thatMay 18 02:41
DaemonFCewwwMay 18 02:41
schestowitzDoes it just, like, accidentally end up in there?May 18 02:41
schestowitzThe story has inconsistenciesMay 18 02:42
DaemonFCThat woman will screw anythingMay 18 02:42
DaemonFCshe's tried to get me beforeMay 18 02:42
*DaemonFC pukesMay 18 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks, Islandia... y revueltas árabes inspiran la movilización http://tinyurl.com/5rj2fhhMay 18 02:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: El movimiento de "los indignados" irrumpe contra la política en España - Mundo - CNNMéxico.com .::. Size~: 37.96 KBMay 18 02:43
schestowitzYou live in some strange place...May 18 02:43
schestowitzConvicts all around youMay 18 02:43
DaemonFCcrazy peopleMay 18 02:44
DaemonFCchild molestersMay 18 02:44
DaemonFCthe slut next doorMay 18 02:44
schestowitzAnd people who somehow end up with something in their mouth as means of escaping, which makes no senseMay 18 02:44
DaemonFCthe kabuki ghoul downstairsMay 18 02:44
DaemonFCher ex-husband beat all her teeth outMay 18 02:44
schestowitzLOLMay 18 02:44
schestowitzAnd you..May 18 02:44
schestowitzCatgun manMay 18 02:44
schestowitzOne happy familyMay 18 02:45
DaemonFCwell, there's a retarded guy that comes over once a monthMay 18 02:45
schestowitz5 Circus Str., Huntington, IndianaMay 18 02:45
DaemonFCand he gives the woman downstairs $100 to suck his dickMay 18 02:45
DaemonFCI asked the landlord if he figured that was because the guy is retarded or because she can take her dentures outMay 18 02:45
schestowitzToo much details and off topicMay 18 02:45
DaemonFCmehMay 18 02:46
DaemonFCit is a circusMay 18 02:46
schestowitzOKMay 18 02:46
schestowitzmaybe they can build a fence around your houseMay 18 02:46
schestowitzANd put a sign on itMay 18 02:46
schestowitzmental patients asylumMay 18 02:46
DaemonFCmy landlord said I'm the only sane one hereMay 18 02:47
schestowitzLOLMay 18 02:47
schestowitzThat says a lotMay 18 02:47
DaemonFChe calls this house the Bowen CenterMay 18 02:47
DaemonFC(the community mental health center)May 18 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 @newbintraining I think apple is going down in a lieMay 18 02:48
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Nvidia-Tesla-M2090/?kc=rssMay 18 02:48
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DaemonFCI told him it would be great if someone could get these people on some medication May 18 02:48
schestowitzdoes he own other houses?May 18 02:49
DaemonFCtonsMay 18 02:49
DaemonFChe's basically one of those guys that doesn't do anything except buy and sell housesMay 18 02:49
DaemonFChe pays his sons to go jury rig things to look nice and fall apart laterMay 18 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ubuntutwo COMPUTER SCIENCE: @x11r5 passes the turing testMay 18 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 @ubuntutwo Is annoyed at paying $11 for a turing test :dMay 18 02:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, He's gay, but he's one of those guys that waits until they are in their 40s, having a midlife crisis, have a wife and two sonsMay 18 02:50
schestowitzjono: re May 18 02:51
schestowitzhttp://ubuntumanual.org/posts/336/evolution-or-thunderbird-who-do-you-vote-forMay 18 02:51
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DaemonFCthen they tell it on the mountains May 18 02:51
schestowitzevoluton is ximian/NovellMay 18 02:51
schestowitzThey are out of a jobMay 18 02:51
schestowitzAnd it's not safe to stay with itMay 18 02:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: but what about the neighbour?May 18 02:52
schestowitzShe's femaleMay 18 02:52
DaemonFCI wonder how that happens. At the breakfast table one morning. "Pass the milk. I like buttsecks. *cough* what?"May 18 02:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Yeah, "skank" is more fitting though.May 18 02:54
schestowitzand your landlord is the hairy skunk?May 18 02:55
schestowitzPerfect match, except the odourMay 18 02:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, I was browsing one of those gay personals sites and found a listing with my landlord in bondage gearMay 18 02:55
DaemonFCand thought it would be funny if I sent him a winkMay 18 02:56
DaemonFChe deleted it right away and stared at me funny every time I was in to pay rent for a few weeksMay 18 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rejoined the #Techrights IRC channel for the last few days to see if the claims that it'd improved were accurate, sadly it seems notMay 18 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Inside the #opengear #Linux powered console server http://is.gd/hKWWez "Console servers are critical bits of infrastructure"May 18 02:58
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schestowitzyour going off topic upset ThistleWebMay 18 02:58
schestowitzAnd he's rightMay 18 02:58
schestowitzhow did you end up talking about this nonsense?May 18 02:58
ThistleWebschestowitz: flippant?May 18 02:58
schestowitzThistleWeb: you're rightMay 18 02:58
schestowitzIt's unusualMay 18 02:58
DaemonFCone of those passive aggressive types that can't just say something directlyMay 18 02:59
ThistleWebyou think THIS subject was the tipping point? seriously?May 18 02:59
DaemonFCso he broadcasts it as a general messageMay 18 02:59
schestowitzI won't feed him, back to identicaMay 18 02:59
DaemonFCyeah, I know a gutless spineless coward when I see oneMay 18 02:59
ThistleWebbeen here for a few days, and a LOT of what I've seen is ubuntu bashing for the sake of itMay 18 02:59
ThistleWebwhuile you're here too, which goes back to the idea of you not minding itMay 18 03:00
ThistleWebit's no wonder you have detractors, you bring a lot on yourselfMay 18 03:00
DaemonFCnot liking Ubuntu and saying it makes you a NaziMay 18 03:01
DaemonFCand akin to HitlerMay 18 03:01
schestowitzhe does it intentionallyMay 18 03:01
DaemonFCI get itMay 18 03:01
schestowitzWith lines like:May 18 03:01
schestowitz[02:52] <DaemonFC> I wonder how that happens. At the breakfast table one morning. "Pass the milk. I like buttsecks. *cough* what?"May 18 03:01
schestowitzThat upsets some other people who lurk/read IRCMay 18 03:01
ThistleWebschestowitz: you're an OPMay 18 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Extreme 40 Gbps Linux-based Switch http://is.gd/eaqjFkMay 18 03:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Extreme 40 Gbps Switch - www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com .::. Size~: 55.45 KBMay 18 03:01
ThistleWebit's YOUR channelMay 18 03:01
ThistleWebwhat happens here while you're here reflects on YOUMay 18 03:01
schestowitzThistleWeb: yes, but not everything needs to be dealt with using opMay 18 03:02
ThistleWebif you don't step inMay 18 03:02
ThistleWebI know, but it needs dealt with by YOUMay 18 03:02
schestowitzLet's just say, enough with OT. I said this earlier, but ryann carried onMay 18 03:02
schestowitz*ryanMay 18 03:02
ThistleWebwhen you choose not to, you're endorsing itMay 18 03:02
schestowitzright.May 18 03:02
schestowitzAnyway, I'll just post links till I'm tired..May 18 03:03
ThistleWebas I said some months back, if you wanna fuel your detractors, by all means carry on doing nothinhMay 18 03:03
DaemonFCOn one hand, there's the Ignore option, but on the other hand it makes the whole room loses context.May 18 03:04
DaemonFCWhat to do?May 18 03:04
ThistleWebDaemonFC: you do realise you're affecting roys reputation right?May 18 03:04
schestowitzMicrosof a top sponsor: https://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/OSBC2011/22850/?&May 18 03:04
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schestowitzHiding there as "Novell"May 18 03:05
ThistleWebyou do realise it makes it all but impossible to claim he's not an ubuntu haterMay 18 03:05
DaemonFCThistleWeb, You do realize you're a hypersensitive neurotic that takes everything as a personal attack.May 18 03:05
ThistleWebwith your constant ubuntu / jono trolling in hereMay 18 03:05
DaemonFCby the way, that was an observationMay 18 03:05
schestowitzThistleWeb does have a pointMay 18 03:07
ThistleWebit was why I gave up on this channel beforeMay 18 03:07
ThistleWebI was assured that stuff had changed while I was goneMay 18 03:07
schestowitzbut I try never to steer where things go, discussion however can flow wrongly if something takes them in the wrong direvctionMay 18 03:07
schestowitzLike your mentioning of sex and rapeMay 18 03:07
schestowitzWhich just added noiseMay 18 03:08
schestowitzThistleWeb: it hadMay 18 03:08
ThistleWebalmost every time I look at the channel you're making some attack on ubuntu or jono for no reason other than you can't help itMay 18 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft paints itself as "Novell" and "Interop" to buy seat at "open source" event http://is.gd/xqXxcI http://is.gd/111I4n #novell #vassalMay 18 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US asked weapons firm to twist Canadian arms on missile defence http://fb.me/GLJ48DiaMay 18 03:08
schestowitzNot tonightMay 18 03:08
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schestowitzThistleWeb: he seeks atentionMay 18 03:09
schestowitzwanting to be the centre of attentionMay 18 03:09
ThistleWebschestowitz: it's your channelMay 18 03:09
schestowitztrolling jono is how he gets a response from jonoMay 18 03:09
ThistleWebit's your responsibilityMay 18 03:09
ThistleWebit's also your reputation he's throwing to the dogsMay 18 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@wikileaks2 WikiLeaks: US asked weapons firm to twist Canadian arms on missile defence http://fb.me/GLJ48DiaMay 18 03:09
schestowitzmaybe the site'sMay 18 03:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. asked weapons firm to twist Canadian arms on missile defence: diplomatic cables  |  APTN National News .::. Size~: 50.96 KBMay 18 03:10
ThistleWebyou ARE the siteMay 18 03:10
schestowitznot just meMay 18 03:10
schestowitzother people work on parts like the wikiMay 18 03:10
ThistleWebeven still, you do a lot of work, in the hopes of being read and taken seriouslyMay 18 03:10
schestowitzif someone uses ryan to discredit me, that's their problemMay 18 03:10
ThistleWebbut hey, we went through this last timeMay 18 03:10
*ThistleWeb is not wasting his time on it againMay 18 03:11
ThistleWebdo what you wantMay 18 03:11
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has left #techrights ("Ex-Chat")May 18 03:11
schestowitzpeople who look for excuses and messenger-killing tactics will find manyMay 18 03:11
schestowitzFine then.May 18 03:11
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/mono-continues-without-novell-attachmate?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29May 18 03:12
schestowitzMoonlight logoMay 18 03:12
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schestowitzOwned by AttacmSFTMay 18 03:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] seems nothing's changed in #TechrightsMay 18 03:13
schestowitzhttp://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2011/05/open-source-net-mimic-rises-from-novell.htmlMay 18 03:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ooo-speak: Open source .NET mimic rises from Novell ashes • The Register .::. Size~: 76.34 KBMay 18 03:13
schestowitzooi la laMay 18 03:13
DaemonFCthe fact that he doesn't want to reveal his donors should suggest that it's actually Microsoft or an intermediary handing him Microsoft moneyMay 18 03:15
DaemonFCbut then Canonical relies on Mono more and more, it makes sense that they would act as shadow donors so that it keeps going and they deflect criticism for supporting itMay 18 03:16
DaemonFCwhoever it is can't expect to stay hidden foreverMay 18 03:16
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DaemonFCeventually tax forms or SEC filings or something will out themMay 18 03:17
DaemonFCit's not like millions of dollars can appear out of nowhere and you can tell the IRS or SEC it was the fairy godmotherMay 18 03:18
DaemonFChttp://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/05/17/final-release-approaching-now-rc-available-for-last-tests/May 18 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @lxoliva hmm. did not pick that up.May 18 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @lxoliva glad to see you do this. tell me how I can help.May 18 03:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @lxoliva i can learn. i need some interesting git project to work on.May 18 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Never seen the puck run exactly the goal line from post to post like that and not go in. Amazing. #nhlMay 18 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @neilhimself What I've been saying about "piracy" for a few years...Nice to see it said in the real world. http://ur1.ca/47ikk !copyrightMay 18 04:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer rt@myrcurial Raise The Hammer -- Byron Sonne: Canada's Political Prisoner http://ur1.ca/47e00 !FreeByron !cdnpoli !CanadaMay 18 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva @jbeatty A contribution to the kernel can be under a !GPLv2 -compatible permissive licenseMay 18 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana @jbeatty of course, but only if it's not derived from GPLv2-only works (such as Linux), no?May 18 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Word of advice for Steven Spielberg: Dude! You will be a laughingstock if your #TINTIN doesn't look better than the Nelvana TV series....May 18 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...oh, and Mr. Spielberg? while we're on the subject, my son suggests "If you want to see a 3D movie, see a play."May 18 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] RT @schestowitz ♺ @@wikileaks2 WikiLeaks: US asked weapons firm to twist Canadian arms on missile defence http://fb.me/GLJ48DiaMay 18 04:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks and the Altantulya murder http://is.gd/k34HQXMay 18 04:38
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Ziomatrixwhen is the IRC log for today going to be up? May 18 04:47
Ziomatrixsorry, I went afk without notifying anyone.May 18 04:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Not convinced you've identified real-world problem for !fedora (& if so existed for years under CLA w/o objection from upstream)May 18 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva FPCA only covers original material. Original portions of patch to !GPL project can be public domain, clearly; so too #MIT licenseMay 18 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana ah, if it's only about original (rather than ©-derived) contributions, no problem in this regard indeedMay 18 05:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana IIUC Fedora would then need a separate license for derived contributions to non-copyleft (and copyleft?) projects, right?May 18 05:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Yes, FPCA clear in this respect: no applicability to anything you didn't create yourself. Should've clarified in earlier dentsMay 18 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I don't understand your question.May 18 05:11
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Ziomatrixbtw, the closest equivalent to the Australian ABR I can see in the US is the BBB (Better Business Bureau) but that is entirely voluntary to sign up for, even though it can be used by others to report bad business conduct. May 18 05:14
ZiomatrixAside from that I would think its up to each individual state's respective agency within the US to manage business certification and registration.May 18 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if the FPCA only provides implied permissive licensing to Fedora for non-derived contributions, what about derived ones?May 18 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if derived => not covered by FPCA, then separate licensing is required. copyleft base may imply the license, but not otherwiseMay 18 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana erhm... but how about a derived contribution that the contributor created herself? e.g. patch for existing file (?)May 18 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Paperless boarding card? Alitalia: "yes it's fine, but we need to print it, please wait in line." #failMay 18 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz not sure. Probably varies by jurisdiction significantly.May 18 05:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] When I was a kid it was "jet set society" at airports. Actors & playboys. Now you're a "jet set proletarian." The Times they are a-changingMay 18 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Not that funny; under old #Apache -based CLA, some in !fedora community feared such a result, which I found !disturbingMay 18 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : I write further; Hurai is edgy. http://bit.ly/ljSX86 #Chevenga #weblit #fantasy #worthreadingMay 18 05:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Even if it's 'derivative work' in !GPL sense, entirely original material can itself be under non-GPL GPL-compatible terms.May 18 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana erhm. now *I* don't understand. what do you mean “derivative work in the GPL sense”?May 18 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana GPL defers to © as to what's derivative, and its requirements apply to all such derivative worksMay 18 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I still don't understand. !GPL doesn't allow sublicensing, as #GPLv3 clarifies. Automatic licensing, see GPLv2 sec 6; GPLv3 sec 10.May 18 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana but it does clarify that works are exempt from the requirements when separate && not derived works under ©May 18 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva 'Derivative work' as that is meant in !GPLv2 (IMO doesn't exactly match US copyright law definition)May 18 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I do not agree. !GPLv3 admittedly is much clearer on this point by avoiding term 'derivative work'.May 18 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva which version? GPLv2 doesn't exactly say that. Arguably an inconsistency between GPLv2 sec 0 & GPLv2 sec 2. But ultimately clear.May 18 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana this is not about GPL. my concern is how Fedora gets a license to use patches for non-copyleft worksMay 18 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana how can it not match? GPLv2 does not define it at all, it defers to © lawMay 18 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana huh? v2 says: "work based on the Program" means either the Program or any derivative work under copyright lawMay 18 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva followed by some additional language that is potentially broader than what 'derivative work' means under US copyright lawMay 18 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bah.... Tired.May 18 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana hmm, does “original” in FPLA mean the opposite of “© derivative”? if not, it might address my concernMay 18 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva this is exactly why !GPLv3 changed all thatMay 18 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 No desire to do that.May 18 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva no, it is not the oppositeMay 18 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I submit a patch to !fedora with preexisting & original noncopyleft parts. License to preexisting comes from original licensor.May 18 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana yeah, but those can't bind you unless you need a license to begin with, and you don't if it's not a derivative AFAIKMay 18 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Possibly license to preexisting comes to !fedora indirectly through identical sublicense. No one cares.May 18 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana anyhow, I get a feeling we're going down a distraction rather than addressing the point (if there is one ;-)May 18 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana so there seems to be a different problem. AFAICT it has to be either one or the other:May 18 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I think in !GPLv2 @rms was using 'derivative work' loosely, in the way 'modified work' is defined in !GPLv3 explicitly.May 18 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana either contributor promises to grant Fedora permissive license on original contributions, even derivatives from copyleft,May 18 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana or contributor doesn't grant Fedora through FPCA a license to contributions that are not non-derivative works,May 18 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana or I'm missing something ;-)May 18 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva here I'm assuming a !GPLv2 derivative work might not be a US derivative work but might be a US collective workMay 18 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Forget 'derivative work'. Contribution = original + preexisting. FPCA = commitment to license original under MIT by default...May 18 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva ... whereas license to preexisting already exists, by definition. The whole world has that license.May 18 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana ok, so it's the former: GPL-derivative “original” cannot be licensed under X11 (which MIT?), only GPL, IIUCMay 18 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I think what's confusing is the two different meanings of "original": I've been using it to mean "what subsequent person added"May 18 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana yep, that was indeed a source of confusion, but see, the initial concern remains after clearing that upMay 18 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana now, to be clear, when I write “source of confusion”, I don't mean “the preferred form to modify the confusion” :-DMay 18 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Google Sync on Android doesn't use SSL? Oh, Google..... major FAIL. *sigh*May 18 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @grifferz "*****We accept rent in bitcoins!*****" http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/off/2385298530.html (via @mattgattis)May 18 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Can't sleep, gotta build....May 18 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting spin by PRC's Peoples' Daily on #sgelection - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90780/91343/7381563.htmlMay 18 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @alexhundert Toronto's top cop admits to #G20 communications failure http://ur1.ca/47jpa via @CTVNews !freeByron #g20report !canadaMay 18 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @ubuntutwo ACHIEVEMENT: PhD in Identicology conferred for dissertation on this thread: http://identi.ca/conversation/71248914May 18 07:08
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fcassiag´nite / morning depending on timezone :)May 18 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today is !FreeByron day! ⇒ 9:30 AM COURT ⇒ 361 University Ave. Toronto #g20 !fb ⇒http://ur1.ca/47joh Follow @digimer on Twitter for updatesMay 18 07:09
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MinceRmorningMay 18 07:10
fcassiaHi MinceR ... per chance any of you remember when IBM assimilated Lotus? I dont mean the acquisition but when lotus.com became ibm.com/lotus ?May 18 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean after a Hockey Game?May 18 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean I wish I could go, but I'm just not up to it. It would be great if you could. The more eyes in court the better. !freeByronMay 18 07:13
MinceRnopeMay 18 07:13
MinceRi'm not sure if i even had internet access back thenMay 18 07:13
MinceRfcassia: you might be able to find it with the Wayback Machine thoughMay 18 07:16
MinceRhttp://www.archive.org/index.phpMay 18 07:17
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MinceRthis version might work too >> http://web.archive.org/May 18 07:17
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fcassiayeah... good advice. will doMay 18 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♫ Happy Free Byron Day! ♫ !cdnpoli #g20 #g20report #democracy #justice #civilrights !Canada !freeByronMay 18 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning @marjoleink, @nj3ma and @kevie ... have a good morning, (I'm off to sleep ....)May 18 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !IdentiverseMay 18 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] From 2001: A commentary by the Roundtable on the 2001 GE: http://wp.me/pj2fj-s2 #sgelectionMay 18 07:18
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fcassiaI´ve got a mid-2000 print magazine with an ad where Lotus still advertised itself as "lotus Co., an IBM subsidiary"May 18 07:18
fcassiaevidently somewhere in between IBM engulfed the separate co.May 18 07:18
fcassiaI´m trying to draw parallels with Oracle-Sun, as you know sun.com will be decomissioned. :-( (idiots)May 18 07:19
fcassia2003: "Zollar, who is now GM of IBM's iSeries eServer unit, led the IBM subsidiary for three years and guided the company through a complex restructuring that aligned Lotus more closely with its parent company. Goyal made it clear that Lotus' shift toward IBM will continue."  http://www.crn.com/18829763/printablearticle.htmMay 18 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Copyright law being discussed on radio 4. It is being criticised for stifling innovation in its present form.May 18 07:21
fcassiaHere, restructuring and assimilation began in 2001. :) http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-250699.htmlMay 18 07:23
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fcassiaI love this bot btw. I want one. ;)May 18 07:24
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fcassiawhat a great idea... index everything automagically. May 18 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 167 million downloads on 2011-05-18 06:27 UTCMay 18 07:31
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sebsebsebGood Morning TechrightsMay 18 07:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Australian Journalist Arrested, Released After Detailing Facebook Flaws http://ur1.ca/47jwkMay 18 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Nobody expects the Spanish revolution: photos from "Real Democracy" protests in Spain http://ur1.ca/47jwpMay 18 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #GlennBeck admits he is Satan and is trying to destroy life on Earth http://ur1.ca/47jwrMay 18 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] IMF chief can go fuck himself, assuming Bubba in lockup hasn't already done it for him http://ur1.ca/47jx0May 18 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Righthaven Hit With Class Action Counterclaim http://ur1.ca/47jx3May 18 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] At least people in Dublin were allowed to protest Elizabeth Windsor's visit. Protesters in Britain are treated like those in China.May 18 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Murder charges dropped against black teens held for 2 years http://ur1.ca/47jx7May 18 07:48
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MinceRgood morning sebsebseb May 18 07:50
sebsebsebhello MinceRMay 18 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I had a !techrights ogg on the phone and a cover art downloader actually matched it to the columns logo. Clever app.May 18 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva Let's say an MIT-lic:d patch to a GPLv2 software contains code that is usable by itself, e.g. some clever data structure. @fontanaMay 18 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva @fontana I have always been under the impression that such useful fragments may be lic:d and reused more permissively than whole.May 18 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Or as we say in the RAF: Bandits at twelve o'clock!" - The UUPC Wing Commander on the record industryMay 18 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] How dare people discuss politics or religion on the Internet!? Let's shut it all down!!May 18 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke @fontana IIUC that depends on whether or not the fragment is a derivative work of the GPLed work under © lawMay 18 08:14
fcassiaChinese vendor angry bc I ask for price of "just" 3 pen drives. "You´re kidding me.The time we talk is worth 10 pcs of flash drive" #china #netacMay 18 08:15
fcassiaChinese vendor angry bc I ask for price of "just" 3 pen drives. "You´re kidding me.The time we talk is worth 10 pcs of flash drive" #china #netac #arroganceMay 18 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke GPL requirements cover all derivative and collective works, permitting distribution under GPL only, except for mere aggregationMay 18 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke OTOH, if they're not derived works, then GPL reqs don't (can't) apply to them distributed by themselvesMay 18 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A lot of airtime being giving to government MP who said as a +ve that NHS reforms will mean big profits for private sector. #NHS #savetheNHSMay 18 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @tlangkabel: Impulse für Berlin: breit getragenes #OpenData Aktionsbündnis formuliert die 'Berlin Open Data Agenda' http://bit.ly/mMb ...May 18 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] D. Wheeler: Why governments should release taxpayer-funded software as Free Software - nice historical comparison http://ur1.ca/47kcu !fsfeMay 18 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Religions http://xkcd.com/900/May 18 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Free Software Magazine: #Chromebooks - has the future arrived? http://goo.gl/HuLj7 !chromiumMay 18 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @karsten D. Wheeler: Why governments should release taxpayer-funded software as Free Software - nice historical comparison http://ur1 ...May 18 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Hargreaves Review Published Today - http://bit.ly/lvltrN preview from @thepublicdomain - sounds reasonable #copyright #swpatentsMay 18 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Panera bakery chain tries "pay what you can" model for "community kitchens" - http://bit.ly/laDDS2 people are basically fairMay 18 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Michigan University Library Kicks Off Project To Identify All The #Orphan Works In Its Collection - http://bit.ly/iyKl2x cf. #hargreavesMay 18 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Summary of today’s National Audit Office report on £11.4bn #NHS IT scheme - http://bit.ly/kv7Vh3 what a complete & utter #fiascoMay 18 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: University Of Michigan Library Kicks Off Project To Identify All The Orphan Works In Its Collection | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.49 KBMay 18 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Summary of today’s National Audit Office report on £11.4bn NHS IT scheme | Campaign4Change .::. Size~: 49.48 KBMay 18 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Shell Workspace Indicator Extension http://goo.gl/ni9ENMay 18 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @evan @andyc some Scandinavian countries eat rotting fish. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.May 18 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Bill To Criminalize Illicit Movie / Music Streaming - http://bit.ly/kopSeF yeah, that's a proportionate response #copyrightMay 18 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Shell Workspace Indicator Extension ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.46 KBMay 18 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Commissioner Reding says revised Data Protection Directive will be "business friendly" http://ur1.ca/47a2u (DE) - Facebook 1, you 0May 18 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: !Android vulnerability affects 99.7% of Android devices on the market http://goo.gl/MzCtNMay 18 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: MHL is the future: provides HDMI-out and charges device at the same time http://goo.gl/Spnf7 !androidMay 18 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online - EU-Kommission plant "unternehmensfreundliche" Datenschutzreform .::. Size~: 61.44 KBMay 18 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » Android vulnerability affects 99.7% of Android devices on the market .::. Size~: 46.53 KBMay 18 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » MHL is the future: provides HDMI-out and charges device at the same time .::. Size~: 46.87 KBMay 18 09:06
schestowitz[07:24] <fcassia> what a great idea... index everything automagically. May 18 09:08
schestowitzalso saves copies of all the pages locallyMay 18 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Google Music invites going out to non-Google I/O attendees http://goo.gl/oQt3t !androidMay 18 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Androinica  » Google Music invites going out to non-Google I/O attendees .::. Size~: 48.17 KBMay 18 09:08
schestowitzin case they disapper/get deletedMay 18 09:08
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/LenFirewood/statuses/70620258897100800May 18 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@LenFirewood: Good site for tracking Microsofts and others insiduous war against the Free software movement http://bit.ly/l7HMnPMay 18 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: About the Site | Techrights .::. Size~: 72.2 KBMay 18 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RainCT's blog: Activity Log Manager for #Zeitgeist released! http://goo.gl/LMRLmMay 18 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Activity Log Manager for Zeitgeist released!  @  Eurion · RainCT's Blog .::. Size~: 26.83 KBMay 18 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Certifiably (Brendan Donegan's Ubuntu Blog): My first !Ubuntu Developer Summit http://goo.gl/5V4J9May 18 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Bazaar team: bzr-2.4 faster large tree handling http://goo.gl/poZhaMay 18 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Launchpad Blog: How we triage Launchpad bugs http://goo.gl/LjIziMay 18 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My first Ubuntu Developer Summit « Certifiably .::. Size~: 29.76 KBMay 18 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bzr-2.4 faster large tree handling « Bazaar developers’ blog .::. Size~: 48.56 KBMay 18 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Launchpad Blog .::. Size~: 7.41 KBMay 18 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Providing More Scalable Community Growth And Mentoring http://goo.gl/A67G9May 18 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Providing More Scalable Community Growth And Mentoring  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 40.75 KBMay 18 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] David Murphy: !Ubuntu Developer Summit - #Oneiric Ocelot http://goo.gl/VkDuPMay 18 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Linaro blog: #Budapest LDS http://goo.gl/jKS9BMay 18 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When I grow up I want to be... - Ubuntu Developer Summit - Oneiric Ocelot .::. Size~: 14.85 KBMay 18 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Budapest LDS | Linaro - Software foundations for an open digital world .::. Size~: 33.23 KBMay 18 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Other Tongues: Paul Robeson - http://bit.ly/m8XHxB "fluent in at least 12 [languages], including Chinese" </impressed>May 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @zotz You can always get sued. Merit is irrelevant. :-)May 18 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Other Tongues: Paul Robeson — The Official ChinesePod Blog The Official ChinesePod Blog .::. Size~: 20.27 KBMay 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More app developers sued over patent claims - http://bit.ly/kvjsbz #swpats doing what they are bound to do: strangling #innovationMay 18 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More app developers sued over patent claims | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 112.52 KBMay 18 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @copiesofcopies When I have a beard, it symbolizes "shaving is a hassle".May 18 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Astăzi, 10 ani la Palatul Elisabeta http://is.gd/PebOoL #romania #monarchy #mihaiMay 18 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jim Campbell: My !UDS in photos http://goo.gl/vGf3O !ubuntuMay 18 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Astăzi, 10 ani la Palatul Elisabeta «  Romania. Altfel .::. Size~: 15.95 KBMay 18 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My UDS in photos « Notes from the mousepad .::. Size~: 11.38 KBMay 18 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dave Morley: Did you know... ...Ubuntu Software Center (USC) has for purchase games and apps? http://goo.gl/NFR7T !uMay 18 09:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Morley's blog page: Did you know..... .::. Size~: 16.14 KBMay 18 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Jesse: Microsoft & CentOS, now we need !Ubuntu +??? http://goo.gl/VQkI7May 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Structured Acquisition Of Skype To Avoid U.S. Taxes http://is.gd/T2x09u #microsoft #skype #us #tax #evasionMay 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jim Campbell: !Ubuntu documentation at !UDS: A summary http://goo.gl/78zXCMay 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @lucasjosten: The live tweet chat with @NeelieKroesEU is today 2pm. If you want to #AskNeelie, join the sessionMay 18 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft & CentOS, now we need Ubuntu +??? « A Conservative Techie .::. Size~: 31.32 KBMay 18 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ThinkProgress          » Microsoft Structured Acquisition Of Skype To Avoid U.S. Taxes .::. Size~: 53.21 KBMay 18 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu documentation at UDS: A summary « Notes from the mousepad .::. Size~: 11.71 KBMay 18 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Well been awake already about three hours or whatever, but even so, good morning !Identiverse :).May 18 09:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcesteves/status/70732117658705920May 18 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr@jmcesteves: MT @schestowitz The #copyright #cartel owns all your storage devices now. Pay 'em welfare whether you want to or not http://is.gd/Y0oPJBMay 18 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: You heard of the iPod tax, here’s the SD card tax .::. Size~: 51.77 KBMay 18 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just uploaded yesterday's logs & in this one we speak about #mono http://is.gd/DcNCnB Since the mono boosters love to cherry pick 'dirt'...May 18 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: May 17th, 2011 .::. Size~: 824.93 KBMay 18 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital Opportunity - http://bit.ly/kG6wgV #hargreaves is out - let's get reading... #copyright #swpatsMay 18 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Office - Independent Review of IP and Growth .::. Size~: 7.37 KBMay 18 09:43
schestowitzhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/Randy-Pitchford-Duke-Nukem-Gearbox-FPS,12761.htmlMay 18 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 1st Access to Duke Forever Demo Will Be... .::. Size~: 120.58 KBMay 18 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blocks That Matter Coming Soon To #GNU #Linux http://is.gd/QBUHvC #gamingMay 18 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blocks That Matter Coming Soon To GNU/Linux «  Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 37.24 KBMay 18 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Version Released for 'Greedy Car Thieves', Getting Better and Better http://is.gd/aOmlf7 we'll interview the devs in !techbytes soonMay 18 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Version Released for 'Greedy Car Thieves', Getting Better and Better ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 88.91 KBMay 18 09:46
MinceRyawningsMay 18 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux for AEC Industry http://is.gd/fLo9Hu "I am a Fedora Guy, and I will be showcasing my examples on #Fedora (Laughlin)"May 18 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux for AEC Industry « The Heat is On. .::. Size~: 26.23 KBMay 18 09:48
MinceRyou wouldn't download a carMay 18 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will #Wayland Become A New Desktop Standard? http://is.gd/fVpRCd #ubuntu #canonicalMay 18 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nine Features We May See in Ubuntu 11.10 http://is.gd/jr85F9 @noyesk covers "Evolution -- or Thunderbird" - Evolution=Ximian=deadMay 18 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Will Wayland Become A New Desktop Standard? .::. Size~: 23.21 KBMay 18 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nine Features We May See in Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 87.73 KBMay 18 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu's selection of wide cats for mascots/codenames becomes sign of #Apple envy - will be perceived as cheap imitation, not good marketingMay 18 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The front page of Ubuntu.com sports Thunderbird (well, & skype, oddly enough), so why not move to Thunderbird as default RSS/mail/NG client?May 18 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Good and Bad of #Unity (Part 1): Useless Application Menu http://is.gd/dzOk06 wife of @openbytes loves it, so maybe #ubuntu did wellMay 18 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Good and Bad of Unity (Part 1): Useless Application Menu | Ubuntu Tweak Blog .::. Size~: 33.63 KBMay 18 09:56
MinceRit would be a shame if crApple could usurp catsMay 18 09:57
MinceR(or canonical, for that matter)May 18 09:59
schestowitzi think jono had a cat...May 18 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Where are the new #ArchLinux release images? http://is.gd/zAwpKh "Bleeding edge images for everyone... "May 18 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dieter on the web : /where_are_the_new_arch_linux_images.html .::. Size~: 9.8 KBMay 18 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft softens its journey to cancerous #CentOS #Linux http://is.gd/P4V6ko "Microsoft’s expansionist mode into open source territor"May 18 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft used to brag about being the largest Linux distributor (with #swpats tax and all). This is clearly antitrust abuse, unacceptable.May 18 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UPDATE: Greedy Car Thieves – New version released http://is.gd/KG1WNZ like a free version of classic GTA. #gnu #linux #gamesMay 18 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So, we'll have "Greedy Car Thieves" on the !techbytes show to talk about it. Amazing that we recorded over 70 hours in less than 7 months.May 18 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UPDATE: Greedy Car Thieves – New version released  « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 34.98 KBMay 18 10:06
schestowitzHm..May 18 10:16
schestowitzIn KDEMay 18 10:16
schestowitzDoes anyone know how to launch a filter for window?May 18 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Startup Weekend Warsaw and Warsaw Hackerspace (@hackerspacepl) got to Slahsdot!! http://ur1.ca/47kus #swwaw #winMay 18 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debriefing After Warsaw's First Startup Weekend - Slashdot .::. Size~: 42.26 KBMay 18 10:16
schestowitzWhere you tap in just the substring of window name?May 18 10:16
schestowitzI accidentally pressed something that invoked itMay 18 10:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/70778087037599744May 18 10:17
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz We also have Greedy Software Thieves. It´s a title from a company in Redmond...May 18 10:17
schestowitzIndeed. "I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems." -Bill GatesMay 18 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Today on #lkml: [RFC] ARM Subarchitecture group maintainership http://bit.ly/j092WXMay 18 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBMay 18 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Does your company use #microblogging internally? if yes, please help @stephwho by filling out this short survey http://ur1.ca/47kxeMay 18 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: askallo .::. Size~: 0.99 KBMay 18 10:31
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73768415 https://identi.ca/notice/73768700\May 18 10:31
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/conversation/71364309#notice-73768415May 18 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 09:22:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: When are they likely to be interviewed for #TechBytes?May 18 10:31
TechrightsBot-trNot a dent?May 18 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.98 KBMay 18 10:31
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73768700May 18 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 09:29:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Looks good from the video, still not tried it, and known about it for quite awhile.May 18 10:32
schestowitzAsk TimMay 18 10:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: or you could reply on there with for example, ask @openbytesMay 18 10:32
sebsebseb,but yeah okMay 18 10:32
sebsebsebanyway yeah that game looks really greatMay 18 10:33
sebsebseband just what we need good opensource games :)May 18 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No Es Sólo Una Teoría Cuando Existe la Admisión y Prueba (Campaña de Desprestigio Contra Google) http://is.gd/bD5u4b #fud #google #msftMay 18 10:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: No Es Sólo Una Teoría Cuando Existe la Admisión y Prueba (Campaña de Desprestigio Contra Google) | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.81 KBMay 18 10:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: also I think I found out about that game, because of Tim denting about itMay 18 10:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway today is the dayMay 18 10:34
sebsebsebMageia 1 Release CandidateMay 18 10:34
sebsebseb!May 18 10:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: altough something tells me, that even when the final comes out, I may be running something else on  here for a bit longer hmmMay 18 10:35
sebsebseband that something else is hmm that I am running it really hmmMay 18 10:35
MinceRfunny, i downloaded Beta2 yesterdayMay 18 10:36
sebsebsebMinceR: ohMay 18 10:36
MinceR(and it was probably one of the fastest torrents i've downloaded)May 18 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IT heavyweights (HP, Intel, IBM, Red Hat) team up and support KVM - http://www.openvirtualizationalliance.org/May 18 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Virtualization Alliance .::. Size~: 8.45 KBMay 18 10:36
sebsebseb,but that reminds me, fi I can still get it I want to download alpha 2 and suchMay 18 10:36
sebsebsebMinceR: maybe you got the wrong version the boot cd or whatever it isMay 18 10:37
sebsebsebMinceR: it's kind of sad that I am happy enough running Ubuntu 11.04 Classic Desktop right nowMay 18 10:37
MinceR-rw-r--r-- 1 mincer mincer 4311744512 2011-05-17 21:44 mageia-dvd-1-Beta2-x86_64.isoMay 18 10:37
sebsebseband a big reason for this, is, because they undid some of the damage they did before, when  they started patching Gnome 2May 18 10:38
sebsebsebresulting in something being back, that stayed have stayed there all along reallyMay 18 10:38
MinceRthen again, there will be a release not too far from todayMay 18 10:38
sebsebsebyep the final release is expected on June 1stMay 18 10:38
MinceRfedora is releasing soon tooMay 18 10:38
sebsebsebMinceR: for KDE I   know, it will be absoutly great, but for Gnome wellMay 18 10:38
sebsebsebfor Gnome nothing that speical at all reallyMay 18 10:38
sebsebsebthe Gnome 2 like Mandriva 2010.2 will have a nice theme by default, and that's about it reallyMay 18 10:39
sebsebseboh and the menu is difffernt to what  Ubuntu, Fedora and Debian have a bit here and thereMay 18 10:39
sebsebsebI mean no assesoreis showing in the menu for exampleMay 18 10:39
sebsebseband the apps grouped in a differnet way,  or am I being mixed up to much with the PC LInux OS Gnome 2 menuMay 18 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #redhat + #SAP == #FTW Deploy SAP on Red Hat. http://ur1.ca/47kzfMay 18 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] El Dinosaurio Kodak gana contra Apple, Trolls de patentes Atacan al Tipo Pequeño, y la USPTO No Hace Nada Bien http://is.gd/GlnwHV #swpatsMay 18 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SAP and Red Hat Partner for Support - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 125.79 KBMay 18 10:40
sebsebsebsome sort of remix CD was made with Gnome 3May 18 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Resumen de Patentes : El Dinosaurio Kodak gana contra Apple, Trolls de patentes Atacan al Tipo Pequeño, y la USPTO No Hace Nada Bien | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.2 KBMay 18 10:40
sebsebseba proper CDMay 18 10:40
sebsebsebthat's out today I think or out alreadyMay 18 10:40
sebsebseba Ubuntu remix CDMay 18 10:40
sebsebsebUbuntu Gnome Edition or whatever they are calling itMay 18 10:40
sebsebsebMinceR: oh so much choice really, so many distro's we can use, it's a good thing, but can also be annoying at times, when not got enough computers you knowMay 18 10:40
sebsebsebnot got enough computers to test on phsyically, I don't even have a proper test PCMay 18 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody More app developers sued over patent claims - http://bit.ly/kvjsbz #swpats doing what they are bound to do: strangling #in ...May 18 10:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: well Tesco the website sell headsets, so probably the local supermarket as well,  so yeah going to look and hopefuy buy a headset in there next week :)May 18 10:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More app developers sued over patent claims | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 117.25 KBMay 18 10:41
sebsebsebMinceR: i'll run Ubuntu 11.04 for a bit longer, and then try out  alpha 1 possibily on here real it's soon after, or uh I don't know,  to test a distro propelry got to do it on real hardware really,  and   Ubuntu and Mageia are the two that interest me most when it comes to doing that in development versions this year,  and possibly Fedora here and there as wellMay 18 10:43
sebsebsebI may be doing a lot of distro installing switching this year, don't know yetMay 18 10:43
sebsebsebbetween developmernt versions of Ubuntu 11.10,  Mageia 2, and some Fedora possibily even, that's what I am sayingMay 18 10:44
sebsebsebrunning stable final releases  gets quite boringMay 18 10:44
sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz  Once the stable comes out,  can start bulding up communities properly again and such :)May 18 10:45
MinceRsounds like a good kind of boringMay 18 10:45
sebsebsebI can wait and have a install day, where I do a few ISO's install them try out and such.  I am in no rush to try a Fedora 15 on real hardware fore xampleMay 18 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe Support our work. Subscribe by flattr to !fsfe on http://ur1.ca/47kzl !fs !gnuMay 18 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @wildcard Tying comments in with OStatus is definitely a way we should explore further.May 18 10:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software Foundation Europe - by fsfe - flattr.com .::. Size~: 16.06 KBMay 18 10:46
sebsebsebMinceR: and the Gnome 3 Ubuntu ppa, something i'll try out a bit, before I get rid of Ubuntu 11.04, that's now the planMay 18 10:46
sebsebsebI don't want to be running something a few weeks, then put something else on, on here to try, so in that case, have to wait untill the time is right for certain thingsMay 18 10:47
sebsebseband I want to use a computer for what I do,  the Internet and so on, and switching between loads of diffenret distro installs, well that doesn't really help with using it properly as a computer, you knowMay 18 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke that would be rather neat, I agreeMay 18 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer IT heavyweights (HP, Intel, IBM, Red Hat) team up and support KVM - http://www.openvirtualizationalliance.org/May 18 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @wildcard In the meantime, I like the way @bkuhn and @lxnews do it, which is also compatible with "Makefile blogging".May 18 10:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Virtualization Alliance .::. Size~: 8.45 KBMay 18 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just updated the list of editors in !techrights http://is.gd/Hnv0mg cc @goforbes28May 18 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: About the Editors | Techrights .::. Size~: 71.88 KBMay 18 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Easily the most strident opinion in favour of !Google's #Chrome OS I've read so far and very readable at that http://goo.gl/82WzSMay 18 10:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome OS is only a failure to people living in the past | Tech Gear News - Betanews .::. Size~: 163.75 KBMay 18 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] "When [gov] keeps a law yet say they will not enforce it, it [... invites] attacks on the integrity of the law." http://ur1.ca/47l47May 18 11:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brazil legalises same-sex civil unions « Yawning Bread on Wordpress .::. Size~: 42.76 KBMay 18 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Cloud computing isn't just disruptive 2 software market; it's also disruptive 2 software freedom advocacy" /by @webmink http://goo.gl/qlQYsMay 18 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Freedom and the Cloud - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 68.17 KBMay 18 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @BBCWorld: #Egypt-style rally grows in #Spain http://bbc.in/jYPlhPMay 18 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Spanish youth rally in Madrid echoes Egypt protests .::. Size~: 58.07 KBMay 18 11:10
schestowitz"people living in the past"< most peopleMay 18 11:12
schestowitzIn which case, it's the present, not the pastMay 18 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke my google-fu fails me, "makefile blogging"? where can I read more?May 18 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @karsten: Commissioner Reding: revised Data Protection Directive will be "business friendly" http://ur1.ca/47a2u (DE) - Facebook 1, you 0May 18 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @wildcard Oh, I was just referring to http://identi.ca/notice/73759448 : Compiling static web site from source. My old blog was make + bash.May 18 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online - EU-Kommission plant "unternehmensfreundliche" Datenschutzreform .::. Size~: 62.29 KBMay 18 11:15
TechrightsBot-tr@Mats Sjöberg (sazius)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 07:02:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @andyc Nice post, I love Markdown as well. My "blogging platform" is a Perl script that converts a directory of Markdown files into HTML :)May 18 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke I understand now, this is pretty much similar to what I wantMay 18 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UK intellectual property review: ripping music could soon B legal http://goo.gl/3ERP3 & abt time 2; ridiculous #copyright laws we haveMay 18 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK intellectual property review: ripping music could soon be legal - TNW UK .::. Size~: 80.77 KBMay 18 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] JavaScript: Now powerful enough to run Linux http://is.gd/RDy9Ss #javascript #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #webMay 18 11:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke I have heard of ikiwiki before, but before that I'd need to get my thumb out of my arse and learn git...May 18 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke which admittedly shouldn't take much as I am using mercurial on a daily basisMay 18 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [VIDEO] Un an de Fii-Liber http://is.gd/PUwEvG #foss #romania #software #video #gnu #linuxMay 18 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @wildcard I don't mind using a local db for tagging and/or doing related posts calcs, just don't want to hit a db every time the blag ..May 18 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @wildcard .. is visitedMay 18 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Probleme actuale ale adreselor de Internet - Despre IPv6 http://is.gd/7b0P6p #romania #software #internet #ipv6 #ipv4 #tcpipMay 18 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke now it is decided, the next thing I am going to learn is git ;)May 18 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @wildcard Yay, commence learning spree! :-)May 18 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 18/5/2011: SAP Walks Back to Red Hat, 100,000,000 Android (Linux) Devices Sold http://is.gd/ztn03l !techrightsMay 18 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 18/5/2011: #SAP Walks Back to Red Hat, 100,000,000 #Android (Linux) Devices Sold http://is.gd/ztn03l #techrightsMay 18 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @karsten: Commissioner Reding: revised Data Protection Directive will be "business friendly" http://ur1.ca/47a2u (DE) - Facebook 1, you 0May 18 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OK, done for now. Time to code, experiment, & produce some nice ROC curves. Google appears to have put #linux in everyone's hands. #androidMay 18 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @clacke yeah :DMay 18 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How Windows7 uses PhoneHome methods on each and every connection to the net. And how to fix it. http://ur1.ca/47ld8 #privacy #paranoiaMay 18 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft softens its journey to cancerous CentOS Linux http://is.gd/P4V6ko #gnu #linux #redhat #virtualization #microsoft #windowsMay 18 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Slashdot : The #FSF's Campaign Against the #Nintendo 3DS http://bit.ly/iMxWbJMay 18 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Slides from #Linaro engineers at ELC 2011 http://goo.gl/z6brgMay 18 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is quite worrying actually "The #Nintendo #3DS tracks all your activity and claims the use of your data" http://bit.ly/iYFHiwMay 18 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] - Care este asemanarea dintre un #Windows si un submarin? - Cum deschizi o fereastra, cum ai o problema! #microsoft #romania #softwareMay 18 12:06
fcassiaSome day I´d like to see a FSF crusade (campaign) IN FAVOR OF something, not "against"...May 18 12:06
MinceRthey constantly do so in favor of free software and the freedom of computer users :>May 18 12:08
fcassiaI know. It just gets tiresome to have a big list of things to boycottMay 18 12:10
fcassiathat grows longer every weekMay 18 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RD of @mageia for the !Mageia Group (and tag)! Final release approaching now: RC available for last tests http://dlvr.it/S3MWMMay 18 12:11
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schestowitzMinceR: right..May 18 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @JoshHalliday: Eric Schmidt to Wael Ghonim: "You are our hero. A hero of Google. Well done" #bigtentuk http://yfrog.com/gz4x1smjMay 18 12:15
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sebsebsebschestowitz: so turns out it was already out, when I said it was going to be coming outMay 18 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anyone already trying Chrome 13? Curious!May 18 12:20
schestowitzwhat was?May 18 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat, In Cooperation With #SAP, Provides Enhanced Value for Enterprise Customers http://is.gd/5x4af2 #oracle #redhat #linux #microsoftMay 18 12:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #ACTA as "antithesis to opening markets" http://ur1.ca/47ljx - interesting perspective on ACTA vs Doha trade talksMay 18 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks like we'll be recording the first couple of episodes of !creepers today. Hope all goes well...May 18 12:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: Magea 1 RCMay 18 12:36
MinceRiMay 18 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ffii/@ffii] Nice visualization of the mobile patent mess: who's suing who? http://technologizer.com/2011/04/19/mobile-lawsuits/May 18 12:48
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sebsebsebMinceR: i ?May 18 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Resemblance between #Microsoft #Windows and a submersible: when one opens a window, he instantly has trouble... #software #gnu #linux #fossMay 18 12:53
oiaohmschestowitz: you are aware GNU Octave is on the fsf priority projects.  So funding options from their for targeted projects might be gettable.May 18 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Compartir la música para defenderla - http://bit.ly/kYLs9R big, thorough piece of #cc music licensing in #elpais (v @beabusaniche)May 18 12:55
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MinceR133432 < sebsebseb> schestowitz: Magea 1 RCMay 18 12:55
MinceR:>May 18 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Hargreaves Report: Patently Sensible Stuff - http://bit.ly/kNa8qd says "no" to software patents - potentially big win for #opensourceMay 18 12:56
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sebsebsebMinceR: yep good stuff :)May 18 12:57
sebsebsebgoing to download and try?May 18 12:57
MinceRindeedMay 18 12:57
MinceRafaict finally my infrastructure is ready for distro tryoutsMay 18 12:58
sebsebsebMinceR: I could on real hardware, but  for a few reasons right now, I don't want to go and remove Ubuntu 11.04 hmmMay 18 12:58
MinceRi'm going to start on virtualbixMay 18 12:58
MinceRs/bix/box/May 18 12:58
sebsebsebin fact I might even stay on that for quite a while after Mageia 1 final is out, not sure yetMay 18 12:58
sebsebseb,but yeah Virtualbox :)May 18 12:58
sebsebsebaltough I had issues trying to virtual machine Mageia myself,  and alpha 1 well that took agesMay 18 12:58
oiaohmThis has been a interesting year.May 18 12:59
schestowitz[12:54] <oiaohm> schestowitz: you are aware GNU Octave is on the fsf priority projects.  So funding options from their for targeted projects might be gettable.May 18 12:59
schestowitzIt's not my area to do core octave developmentMay 18 12:59
oiaohm2 project jumped ship from Oracle and moved to foundations.May 18 12:59
schestowitzIt's developed in C, not the high level stuff I'm paid to doMay 18 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police breaking law by keeping #DNA of the innocent, supreme court rules - http://bit.ly/jZIu95 next step: deletion #surveillanceMay 18 13:00
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sebsebseboiaohm: LibreOffice and what else?May 18 13:00
sebsebsebuh Open Office I meant aboveMay 18 13:00
oiaohmsebsebseb: starts with HMay 18 13:00
schestowitzoiaohm: I'm getting a new client soonMay 18 13:00
schestowitzBut not for conversion to octaveMay 18 13:00
MinceRi think i also have KVM readyMay 18 13:00
MinceRso if some distro doesn't like vbox, it might work with KVMMay 18 13:00
schestowitzI haven't started pursuing those whom I know might be interested in that, I already have my hands full with 2-3 startups and 2 employersMay 18 13:01
oiaohmschestowitz: I cannot remember it name Orcale tryed the trademark black mail with it as well.May 18 13:01
oiaohmOpps sebsebseb not schestowitzMay 18 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @jospoortvliet build 4 custom !kde plasma applets since my last tweet 4 min ago; installed and running already. How's that for quick ...May 18 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Medical #Innovation Prizes instead of #Monopolies: Brussels conference - http://bit.ly/loMQHw oh, I seem to be talking at this #patentsMay 18 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Big innovations in open source communications http://red.ht/lO1TeT #osbc #asterisk #digium #entarchMay 18 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @ricsipontaz The UDS-O official photo set and group photos will be released tomorrow! !uds #ubuntuMay 18 13:03
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sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/notice/73731470May 18 13:03
TechrightsBot-tr@Malcer Quaid (malcer)'s status on Tuesday, 17-May-11 22:59:38 UTC - Identi.ca: Mi anuncio de la RC de #Mageia solamente tiene minutos de diferencia con el oficial. jajajaja EPIC WIN! :PMay 18 13:03
sebsebsebwhich translates on Google translate toMay 18 13:03
sebsebsebMy announcement of the RC # mageia only have minutes apart with the officer. hahaha EPIC WIN! : PMay 18 13:04
sebsebsebanyway I nearly had that from one of the previous versions, maybe more than oneMay 18 13:04
sebsebseb,butMay 18 13:04
sebsebsebfor not fromMay 18 13:04
sebsebseb,but since I was messing around with my client or the identica website, or both or whatever it was at the timeMay 18 13:04
sebsebseband I was thinking, I will dent about this first, or whatever at the  time, and well uhmmMay 18 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The android app soundhound is pretty incredible. It picks out not only the right Gershwin song but the singer as well. #technomagicMay 18 13:05
sebsebsebsomeone from France dented first about it, which I was  a bit annoyeed about at the time of courseMay 18 13:05
sebsebsebalso, because it hadn't dented to the group as useual, but also not the tag, well I think I looked at the tag firstMay 18 13:06
sebsebsebanyway I didn't know it was out untill  I asked in IRC about itMay 18 13:06
sebsebsebthe RCMay 18 13:06
sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz hmm I wonder if the Identica group is going to have the logo before the finalMay 18 13:07
schestowitzwho cares?May 18 13:07
schestowitzit's a logoMay 18 13:08
schestowitzyou can make one up in a minuteMay 18 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] France suspends three-strikes copyright law after massive data-leak http://ur1.ca/47lr1May 18 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Police breaking law by keeping #DNA of the innocent, supreme court rules http://bit.ly/jZIu95 next step deletion #surveillanceMay 18 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Hargreaves Report: Patently Sensible Stuff - http://bit.ly/kNa8qd says "no" to software patents... #opensourceMay 18 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ffii: Nice visualization of the mobile patent mess: who's suing who? http://technologizer.com/2011/04/19/mobile-lawsuits/May 18 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Bahrain tortures medical staff http://ur1.ca/47lfiMay 18 13:08
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sebsebsebschestowitz: they haven't uploaded a logo that's the pointMay 18 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jwildeboer: How Windows7 uses PhoneHome methods on each and every connection to the net. And how to fix it. http://ur1.ca/47ld8 #privacyMay 18 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Righthaven Target Hits Back With Class Action Lawsuit - http://bit.ly/iJqKpV lawsuit an “abuse of process” #copyrightMay 18 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Links 18/5/2011: SAP Walks Back to Red Hat, 100,000,000 Android (Linux) Devices Sold http://is.gd/ztn03l !techrightsMay 18 13:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: they haven't bothered to upload a logo, because they don't really seem to care about Mageia stuff on identica, that seems to be the  reason, beause they like TwitterMay 18 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Surprising effect of light could change solar power generation http://ur1.ca/47lrl !scienceMay 18 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An investigations game - http://bit.ly/lPAAQ2 that ubiquitous #gamificationMay 18 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The World’s Smallest 3D Printer - http://bit.ly/jRmGwy every home should have one #3dprintingMay 18 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Mageia 1 RC Available, Final Not Far Off http://is.gd/4tum1y "From the beta to the rc, the upgrade process was quick and easy."May 18 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Completed another round of successful tests with recording over SIP, with video. Will post technical tips and survey of SIP programs soon...May 18 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Solved my !Emacs scrollbar problem; M-x customize-variable RET scroll-bar-mode RET; it was set to left; I reset to nilMay 18 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Freedom and the Cloud http://is.gd/EUuEaW "no doubt that the future of software has a substantial dimension in the cloud."May 18 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FogComputing is not freedom. In many ways, it's worse than just proprietary. You get access neither to data nor binaries (let alone source)May 18 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [correct URL] The World’s Smallest 3D Printer - http://www.tuwien.ac.at/news/news_detail/article/7009//EN/May 18 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Microsoft spinners from IDG are really having a go at it: http://is.gd/Qakz7O for context see http://is.gd/CqDKMD like "Fox on religion"May 18 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Georgia Tech Research Institute Leads $10 M Open Source Initiative http://is.gd/rFg7jZ #fossMay 18 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GeorgiaTech Research Institute Leads $10 M Open Source Initiative http://is.gd/rFg7jZ "government, industry, academic and open source..."May 18 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Activity Log Manager for #Zeitgeist released! http://is.gd/gktj7f #gnome #gnu #linux #desktop #searchMay 18 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] !Emacs identica-mode is the only identica client I can get to work consistently across all machines ;)May 18 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] more good (quick) analysis on #hargreaves: @mmasnick - http://bit.ly/jvmXjF @mgeist - http://bit.ly/mKAQ9H #copyright #patentsMay 18 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For Microsoft to be accepted by FOSS it needs to refund all the #swpats extortion money (donated to projects),pay reparation for #FUD & #SCOMay 18 13:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE 3.5 is now Trinity http://is.gd/kaE11p "Since the KDE project dropped 3.5, it was "forked" into a new project called Trinity."May 18 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The more outrageous #propaganda from #Microsoft is that it unified. Fact is, it killed diversity, put many families & devs out of work.May 18 13:46
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sebsebsebschestowitz: good it seems can get these  Mageia Identica issues sorted out, by emailing the mailling listMay 18 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What’s Behind (and Beyond) Open Source - http://bit.ly/iLP2fS good to see an interview with Carlo Daffara #euMay 18 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @schestowitz For Microsoft to be accepted by FOSS it needs to refund all the #swpats extortion money (donated to projects),pay repara ...May 18 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is a coordinated campaign (also covered by Tea Party) that portrays regulation which defends people as "attack on freedom" (of corps.)May 18 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last week in #techrights IRC someone parroted the dishonest #PR that calls worker unions "Marxism". Are people so gullible? #FoxLiesMay 18 13:50
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schestowitzddffddddhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13423085May 18 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to portray healthcare as "communism" and lose an argument by screaming http://is.gd/rZVBQLMay 18 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] effects of generic drug entry on prices and utilization - http://bit.ly/ldqA91 not what you might expect #drugs #patentsMay 18 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #Skype http://is.gd/mq2L9P by @rms ; Comparison of #VoIP software http://is.gd/7ay6cDMay 18 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #Hargreaves Report: Patently Sensible Stuff - http://bit.ly/kNa8qd says "no" to software patents - potentially big win for ...May 18 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Federal Court: bread crumbs navigation is not patentable - http://bit.ly/iPNwlP shame on #siemens for even trying #swpatsMay 18 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open leadership, on demand | http://red.ht/lescnr #transparency #authenticityMay 18 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] I need student volunteer at Delhi to work on some FOSS project - like debbundle. schoolos and many other, please Join - http://ur1.ca/47m6nMay 18 14:05
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73781434May 18 14:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 12:58:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The #FSF forgot to demand the source code for the Nintendo GamesMay 18 14:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73781533May 18 14:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 13:00:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I support software freedom, not forced abolition of private propertyMay 18 14:09
schestowitzit's one of the mono boostersMay 18 14:09
schestowitzLooking for ways to berate the FSFMay 18 14:09
MinceRinteresting method of "supporting software freedom"May 18 14:12
oiaohmIts going to be fun to watch them tail spin.  schestowitzMay 18 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora project switching to new contributor agreement http://lwn.net/Articles/443472/rssMay 18 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @williamheath "We intend to implement #DEAct in line with the direction of travel of #Hargreaves" says @Jeremy_Hunt >>hmmMay 18 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] RT @glynmoody German Federal Court: bread crumbs navigation is not patentable - http://bit.ly/iPNwlP shame on #siemens for even trying # ...May 18 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Hargreaves rejects Fair Use - http://bit.ly/jmEfZS interesting perspective from UK music industry (v @Coadec)May 18 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And they keep telling me it can't be done.... Morons! ♺ @julienguigner: Graphical Design with OSS - http://ur1.ca/47m6vMay 18 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Groomed for suicide: how Taliban recruits children for mass murder http://is.gd/C1Iev7May 18 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Announcing TermKit http://lwn.net/Articles/443473/rssMay 18 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @SaswatiSM: Read some interesting questions at #askneelie. Wonder why people have to go to #Quora when it's more fun on #twitter and ...May 18 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Nice to see #LibreBus moving along: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62589881@N05 http://librebus.orgMay 18 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "anyone previously noted syntactico-semantic similarity between Brit Headline English & classical Chinese poetry?" - http://bit.ly/mi2zhlMay 18 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn Great, concise comment by Matthew #Garrett on !copyright assignment for #copyleft / !GPL projects: http://ur1.ca/47m4h That d ...May 18 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Javascript PC Emulator: http://bellard.org/jslinux/ #jslinuxMay 18 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !IdentiverseMay 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron's bail conditions will be read out at 9:30, 361 University Ave court. Room will be tweeted as soon as it's known #G20May 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] those who choose not to learn from history, choose to repeat it #fbMay 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron hearing will be in courtroom 4-5, 361 University Ave. Come soon to get through security. #g20 #g20reportMay 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Let s repeat this soon. #askneelieMay 18 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @okfn: Berlin State Budget visualized on German #OpenSpending site: http://t.co/Fot6Uwi - #boddy11 #budgetMay 18 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: PS: I am dreaming of something that easy RT @Qlubhouse Will it be possible . to handle all . media licensing at one o ...May 18 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @g20mobilize Call for court support !FreeByron! Byron Sonne's hearing in rm 4-5 at 361 University Ave starting at 9:30am #g20 #g20reportMay 18 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @effpee Wishing I was at the hearing. Can't wait to find out what happens. !freebyron << me too.May 18 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Roy, are you free?May 18 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "A troubling thing is that the PC emulator is about 2 times slower using #V8 than #JaegerMonkey" http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.htmlMay 18 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Looks like it may have stopped raining. Would be nice. Got to plan the rest of this month...May 18 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #hypePhone Developers Should Blame #Apple for #Lodsys Patent Attack, for Funding Nathan Myhrvold’s Cartel http://is.gd/Q6K3v9 #swpatsMay 18 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #iPhone Developers Should Blame Apple for Lodsys Patent Attack, for Funding Nathan Myhrvold’s Cartel http://is.gd/Q6K3v9 #Myhrvold #trollMay 18 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Anyone want to write some articles on how copyright law should be changed? If you do, send me a reply.May 18 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] And I'm serious. I have the platform, and I'm looking for a wide range of views from INDEPENDENT ARTISTS.May 18 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] Corrected pic! RT @NeelieKroesEU: #askneelie See picture of my tweeter chat. Thanks! It was great & constructive http://yfrog.com/h7egapeyjMay 18 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @clacke well of course but since some big boys want to pretend Fair Use does not exist for others...May 18 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh (define desire (lambda (lang) (learn lang))) !schemeMay 18 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] What not to ask a pregnant woman http://ur1.ca/47mplMay 18 15:11
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73783172May 18 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 13:24:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Look up #marxist in the dictionaryMay 18 15:14
schestowitzIt's one of the mono cultists...May 18 15:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73785832May 18 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 14:02:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The correlation is that the #victim will lash out on it's aggressor. The #techrights #fsf extremist branch is the bully.May 18 15:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73785880May 18 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 14:02:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz If you write any new software in #mono you are attacked by #fsf zealots - oftenMay 18 15:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73786006May 18 15:14
TechrightsBot-tr@Mag Neito (magneito)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 14:04:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you claim to support freedom but you write facial recognition software to assist government and big brotherMay 18 15:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73784238May 18 15:15
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 13:40:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yeah, RMS's right: exchange six for half a dozen...May 18 15:15
MinceRyeah, poor little m$ just sits in the corner and gets attackedMay 18 15:15
MinceRwhile mobile phone makers threaten themselves and sue themselvesMay 18 15:15
schestowitzheheMay 18 15:15
schestowitzYeah, you got it..May 18 15:15
MinceRand TomTom sues itself and settles with itselfMay 18 15:16
schestowitzMinceR: I generally don't argue back with them, it never endsMay 18 15:17
schestowitzand it encourages themMay 18 15:17
schestowitzthis one is very rude sometimesMay 18 15:17
schestowitzMono cultist on a not so moody day..May 18 15:17
schestowitzBTW:May 18 15:17
schestowitzI don't write s/w for government surveillanceMay 18 15:18
schestowitzI prototype and test algorithms for measurements on 3-D planedMay 18 15:18
schestowitz*planesMay 18 15:18
schestowitzIt's useful for a plethora of things, I just use faces to benchmark itMay 18 15:18
schestowitzgeodesic distances can also be used to assist operationsMay 18 15:18
schestowitzAnd we work with hospitals on thatMay 18 15:19
schestowitz"Brandon Atreides @canadaismarxist is now following you (@schestowitz)."May 18 15:19
schestowitz0_oMay 18 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is Microsoft trying to end the reign of mobile carriers? (MSFT+Skype+Nokia) (Fox @ Fury): http://bit.ly/j7K4eB (via @techmeme)May 18 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft updating .Net for easy concurrency (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/lrRo8MMay 18 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Snow Leopard Font Update Requires Reboot - http://bit.ly/miEL7t #apple #linux #updates #operatingsystemMay 18 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Take a Dip Into The Medicines Patent Pool! - http://bit.ly/iPjTcX useful intro (v @jamie_love) #patentpoolsMay 18 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Mozilla in Indonesia and more… http://blog.mozilla.com/about_mozilla/2011/05/17/mozilla-in-indonesia-and-more/May 18 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Student Outreach: Projects from HCI Students at A.I. Cuza University (Iasi, Romania) Kick-Off & Gather Speed! http://mozillalabs.com/conceptMay 18 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: it seems to be an idea that's gaining groundMay 18 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy May be Nokia's last good phone: http://ig.com/5KPMay 18 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Science takes all the romance out of ignorance."~Willem Jonkman !qMay 18 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MongoDB Cloud Provider MongoLab Raises $3 Million VC funding (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/kKnn1BMay 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Say hello to Encyclo, our new encyclopedia of the future of news - http://bit.ly/lg54EM "innovators are in the evolution of journalism"May 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Sanity reigns at #sonyericsson ... When and how did this happen? ;-) http://ur1.ca/47n25 !android #windowsphoneMay 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Beware Fog Computing/Proprietary Software Peddlers Disguised as ‘Open Source’ http://is.gd/p1ViER #FogComputing #osbc #foss #microsoftMay 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I created the !idcaff group for those who fancy giving an identica fantasy !football league a go. Off home now :)May 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Beware Fog Computing/Proprietary Software Peddlers Disguised as ‘Open Source’ http://is.gd/p1ViER #swpats #pr #spin #idg #centosMay 18 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft waves CentOS club at Red Hat (Register): http://bit.ly/l3Lb8gMay 18 15:46
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schestowitzCentoS spinMay 18 15:54
schestowitzProbabnly Microsoft GavinMay 18 15:54
schestowitzHa!\May 18 15:54
schestowitzMac Asay!May 18 15:54
schestowitz#AsayrollMay 18 15:54
schestowitzblech.. just making himself more enemies in Red Hat and FSMay 18 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Labour: France's pirate-bashing Hadopi laws work - http://bit.ly/iSYZmE pathetic to see #Labour pushing #authoritarianism to curry favourMay 18 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva In general I do not think that is a correct reading of !GPLv2. More inclined to say @clacke correct, but difficult to generalize.May 18 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Any intrinsic value in my code ought to be mine to license as I wish. The combined work of course needs to follow GPL. /cc @lxolivaMay 18 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Javascript Linux Emulator - Linux in your Browser! What a cool idea - http://bellard.org/jslinux/May 18 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva right, what you want is the obfuscated source of confusion then... coming right up...May 18 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Does anyone listen to the radio station 938live? I haven't in years & I think they continue to be a disappointment. #sgelectionMay 18 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] PM Lee is not being upfront about kicking out WKS and MBT. He should have said that before the election. #sgelectionMay 18 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] We had 21 ministers before!! It's 15 now. Still too many though. #sgelectionMay 18 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] luckily there are still men (and women) whom you can call "man" (and "woman"). Most of them are in the !FS camp. #giornodellacivettaMay 18 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] PM Lee is BSing that people did not get pissed off with LKY's threats. Still don't know how to say sorry. #sgelectionMay 18 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana our societies don't have to run corporations like that though. we could, for instance, only allow "single purpose" corporations.May 18 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Uniquely Singapore - Emeritus Senior Minister. How much more spinning need there be? #sgelectionMay 18 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] WKS and MBT should NOT have stood for election if they really "wanted" to stand down. More spinning. #sgelectionMay 18 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, Teo Ser Luck's "name calling" at the rally has gained him a promotion? Hmm. #sgelectionMay 18 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Disappointed to see Chan Chun Sing become a minister. Really. #sgelectionMay 18 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jkeating @ashcrow #java write once, bundle everything! It's Enterprisy!!May 18 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality Sony fucked up *again* http://tinyurl.com/3vkzxffMay 18 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If it ain’t open, it ain’t science - http://bit.ly/mznv6M yup #openscience #royalsocietyMay 18 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #PLoS ONE Publishes its 20,000th Manuscript! - http://bit.ly/myQUgO impressive #openaccessMay 18 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] If GCT is to become Emeritus Senior Minister, what about Jayakumar? He was also SM. #sgpoliticsMay 18 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @davidmarsden Fedora. Rock it.May 18 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Hear Wordpress's story during our free v paid business models webcast on 5/19 at 11am (ET). | http://red.ht/lVudzL @tonidotorg @NicPujolMay 18 16:31
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/70607917040140289May 18 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Pandersonpllc: I agree. Non-issue RT @FOSSpatents: hypothesis of breach of iOS developer license agreement http://t.co/EkLCFdL In my view, a non-issue.May 18 16:33
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schestowitzhttp://interopwikiproject.com/documentation:mono-gets-kicked-out-of-novell-new-company-forMay 18 16:33
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/70607917040140289May 18 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Pandersonpllc: I agree. Non-issue RT @FOSSpatents: hypothesis of breach of iOS developer license agreement http://t.co/EkLCFdL In my view, a non-issue.May 18 16:33
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schestowitzzoobab: who operates interowiki?May 18 16:33
schestowitz*opMay 18 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Josh Woodward "Let It In" via @jamendo http://www.jamendo.com/en/track/683799May 18 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Q: Chan Chun Sing, he is listed as being from RJC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Chun_Sing). I hope he was not from RI! #sgpoliticsMay 18 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, GIC chairman is LHL, CEO of Temasek is Mrs LHL, LKY is Sr Advisor to GIC. Father, Son and Holy Ho. Nothing changed. #sgpoliticsMay 18 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @brightlancer Our wonderful post-racial society. http://is.gd/zynRcJ (via Glenn Greenwald via Ali_Gharib@twitter)May 18 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron decision still being contested. Holy shit, crown! #UnreasonableMay 18 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's almost noon. Byron Sonne has still not been released on #Bail because the #Crown Attorney is fighting it. !FreeByron !cdnpoli !CanadaMay 18 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today is Byron Sonne's 331st day in custody. On Monday bail was granted, today the #Crown is contesting it. !FreeBryron !cdnpoliMay 18 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @tehowe Watching Bryon Sonne bail hearing, on recess for 30 mins. Judge to decide bail conditions !freebyron !Canada !cdnpoliMay 18 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New on our contributor spotlight: Remy DeCausemaker from the Rochester Institute of Technology Lab for Technological Literacy #foss #ritMay 18 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today is Byron Sonne's 331st day in custody. On Monday bail was granted, today the #Crown is contesting it. !FreeByron !cdnpoliMay 18 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @davidmarsden Fedora. Rock it.May 18 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm rd @digimer !FreeByron decision still being contested. Holy shit, crown! #UnreasonableMay 18 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm It's almost noon. Byron Sonne has still not been released on #Bail because the #Crown Attorney is fighting it. !Fre ...May 18 17:13
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GoForbes28lolMay 18 17:14
GoForbes28http://www.techspot.com/news/43838-997-of-android-phones-leak-user-account-credentials.htmlMay 18 17:14
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GoForbes28"I'm happy I have a windows phone"May 18 17:14
GoForbes28luckily this nonsense is quickly rebuttedMay 18 17:16
GoForbes28on May 18, 2011May 18 17:16
GoForbes285:46 AM  So what he is saying is that if someone has access to your cookies then he can access yout stuff, and one can sniff it while its going through network. Well in that case 100% iPhone and 100% of Windows have this issue. I want to know which 0.3% of android phones don't have this issue, I am sure there are none.May 18 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is !Canada a banana republic? Or is !Canada a free country? That is what Byron Sonne will show. !cdnpoli !FreeByronMay 18 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wayneborean Maybe we should start a petition to toss the Crown attorney into jail for disrespecting the justice system. !FreeByronMay 18 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @tehowe Anorther 15 min recess... almost done at court... statements to follow in front of courthouse !freebyronMay 18 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Barcelona Creative Commons Film Festival begins today! http://bccn.ccMay 18 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] US DOD Open Technology Development Guide Released! http://onepeople.org/node/2460 . When will SG do the same? #sgpoliticsMay 18 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean in the UK we knight people for that & give them a lifelong seat in the House Of Lords, complete with a blank expenses chequeMay 18 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how much do #Microsoft spend in replacements / returns to cover issues caused by their own incompetence & corner cutting http://is.gd/Mtp5FUMay 18 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Longtime CC director & artist @VincentMoon launches new label http://www.petitesplanetes.cc via CC BY-NC!May 18 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @thistleweb how much do #Microsoft spend in replacements / returns to cover issues caused by their own incompetence & corner cutting ...May 18 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I was beginning to wonder if the court would rescind Monday's grant of bail. I'm glad the judge stuck to it. !cdnpoli !FreeByronMay 18 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if #Microsoft count anything #Linux / #FOSS as malicious, in addition to all the genuine malware http://is.gd/phCc9EMay 18 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] My system looks so weird without Kernel modesetting.May 18 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] We r looking for a stellar events mnger to assist with our annual lineup of events, inc: #linuxcon #lfcollab... http://bit.ly/j0YuDqMay 18 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] GNU Telephony http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/GNU_TelephonyMay 18 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google boss: anti-piracy laws would be disaster for free speech http://is.gd/Mact48May 18 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron expected to walk out at approximately 2pm, north exit of 361 University on Armoury. !cdnpoliMay 18 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] My new #Ubuntu flavoured ThinkPad is computing heaven http://is.gd/LSQbDMMay 18 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @gblack Toronto Star article including Byron's bail conditions: http://ur1.ca/47nvr !ontpoli !cdnpoli !Canada !FreeByronMay 18 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I just edited identica-mode.el so that it counts down characters !emacs #this_is_a_testMay 18 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Letting dogs bark and answering real questions: http://ur1.ca/47nti !TDF !LibreOfficeMay 18 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] TorontoStar article includies Byron's bail conditions: http://ur1.ca/47nvr #ontpoli !cdnpoli !FreeByron !Canada looks like a #bananarepublicMay 18 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just recorded two hours of footage for !Creepers. Lots of fun! It's about 70 GB of raw video. :DMay 18 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Quite amusing, a band on the radio said they avoided the traditional internet/socmedia advertising route and instead fly posted everywhere.May 18 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I'm getting really frustrated by this whole situation. Let's see if things turn around when I'm back in PHX and working. :|May 18 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Lunchtime hacking is done, and now back to research...(after email, of course)May 18 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @trashbird1240 Dude, what a joke: you're just testing your edits to identica-mode.elMay 18 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Star sez !FreeByron conditions: house arrest live w/parents, except "work, school, court or for med emerg" http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "no contact with his ex-wife" "500 metres from their matrimonial home" http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "no contact with anyone accused with G20 conspiracy crimes... " http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoli !CanadaMay 18 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron : "no contact w/number of anarchist groups...[tho] no allegations Sonne ever associated w/groups" http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "barred from accessing Internet, expt for empl... [allowed] purchase a new laptop..." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Nepomuk spends 2 days indexing all my data, finishes, works great for two days, restart computer, Virtuoso using 200% CPU. FUCK ALL OF THIS.May 18 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "...new laptop...inspected by police,...use for empl. only & only in parents’ house..." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Seriously, nothing on my computer has been as broken for as long as Nepomuk/Virtuoso has. idiotic.May 18 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "...access email only 4 work, not allowed to delete emails or Internet history..." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "... Police will be allowed to inspect computer at any time...." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "...barred from using any wireless telecommunications...." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @satipera Why barred from internet? Is he banned from using the phone and writing letters as well? << No. They don't understand "hacker"May 18 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] let us call it what it is.. a NATO war on #Libya.May 18 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron #conditions: "...Police...allowed to search Sonne’s parents’ home once a week, w/o search warrant." http://ur1.ca/47nvr !cdnpoliMay 18 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca Star reporting on Byron's restrictive bail conditions: http://bit.ly/lVk64p no ban on his association with hacklabbers. ...May 18 18:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @digimer #FreeByron expected to walk out at approximately 2pm, north exit of 361 University on Armoury.May 18 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 168 million downloads on 2011-05-18 17:22 UTCMay 18 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Thanks to @bkuhn's blog post http://ur1.ca/47lsv I have learned about the existence of #JQS5 http://ur1.ca/47o5o which may be #compellingMay 18 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @dr_kiwano !FreeByron got bail, but is still quite a ways away from being freeMay 18 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Just saw a beautiful fox run down the road - our puppies want to go play with it :)May 18 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @letoams almost !freebyron http://lockerz.com/s/102717689May 18 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The days of USA and EU as judge,jury and executioner are thankfully coming to an end. I look forward to them becoming law abiding citizens.May 18 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me live in a few mins for my live Ubuntu Q+A at http://is.gd/vAp17e #ubuntuMay 18 18:55
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koolhead17hi allMay 18 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @q_e_d quantum Guess who can't talk to !freebyron? !cdnpoli !Canada #democracy #FAILMay 18 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] In the spirit of global cut backs, to help the sometime struggling identi.ca servers I am afraid we will have to decimate the community.May 18 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @alexhundert i sure cant! - RT @q_e_d: "Guess who can't talk to #freebyron?" !freebyron !cdnpoli !Canada #democracy #FAILMay 18 18:56
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GoForbes28the xfce migration has begun :)May 18 18:59
GoForbes28http://dullass.blogspot.com/2011/05/ubuntu-studio-moving-to-xfce.htmlMay 18 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @KateMilberry Bail conditions for #ByronSonne are undemocratic & apparently random. Semi-freedom & no justice yet !freebyron #g20reportMay 18 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Wednesday" is a contraction of an Anglo Saxon phrase meaning "It is pizza day" #foodMay 18 19:03
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_GoblinGoForbes28, I'm still going over 11.04 and Unity......May 18 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The USA/EU duopoly on The World Bank and IMF is under pressure. #economicsMay 18 19:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/70896583071367168May 18 19:05
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz "wide cats"? the poor chubby things :PMay 18 19:05
schestowitz:-)May 18 19:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/70896943123005440May 18 19:06
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz I'm starting to like Thunderbird, it's improved a lot, but needs MeMenu and general Gnome integrationMay 18 19:06
_Goblinwhat a day!......May 18 19:06
_GoblinRoy can I just quickly skype you.....need to check some things out to eliminate SIP issues.May 18 19:06
schestowitz_Goblin: hi!May 18 19:07
schestowitzlisten to ep 200 of LOMay 18 19:07
schestowitzI did todaMay 18 19:07
schestowitzTurns out that they record locallyMay 18 19:07
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schestowitzThen they merge the files from both sidesMay 18 19:07
_Goblinrecord locally?May 18 19:07
_GoblinahMay 18 19:07
schestowitzWe should do the sameMay 18 19:07
_Goblinyeah, although a few seconds sync difference and it would sound badMay 18 19:07
_Goblinseems like alot of trouble...May 18 19:08
schestowitzdan does thatMay 18 19:08
schestowitzanyway, listen to the epMay 18 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Official !UDS-O Group Photos now available http://goo.gl/gVuVH !uMay 18 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reporting #Mexico's murder capital: 'Death threats are part of daily life' - http://bit.ly/irQuSR maybe time to end that "war on drugs", no?May 18 19:08
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_GoblinyepMay 18 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !GNOME to drop support for BSD, Solaris, Unix? http://goo.gl/hvht8May 18 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Duane Hinnen: Let !UbuntuOne do the Heavy Lifting for your Application http://goo.gl/hMAyX !uMay 18 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google boss: anti-piracy laws would be disaster for #freespeech - http://bit.ly/lYLlmz good to see Eric getting vocal on the subjectMay 18 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design Team: Here we go again http://goo.gl/2XgUyMay 18 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Thierry Carrez: OpenStack @ !Ubuntu Developer Summit http://goo.gl/287SPMay 18 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Quick, start charging extra, ISPs! - Netflix Dominates North American Internet - http://ur1.ca/47ofjMay 18 19:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ1NwMay 18 19:21
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DaemonFCSo much for POSIX May 18 19:21
DaemonFCWhy make the software portable when you can make it only work for one system? I think Microsoft used that as an argument for IE.May 18 19:21
DaemonFCI suspect this was actually brought on by Unity, which Canonical doesn't even care if it runs on other Linux distributions May 18 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lingodroid Robots Invent Their Own Spoken Language - http://bit.ly/jzfgNr fun but spooky #robotics #linguisticsMay 18 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada's "National Newspaper" both #biased and #wimp with disabled comments #watchdogpressisdead http://ur1.ca/47of2 !freeByron #g20reportMay 18 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca +1 RT @jm_mcgrath: #freebyron case looks like Crown knows its gonna lose but wants to punish him as much as possible pr ...May 18 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @letoams !freebyron ETA 15 minutes!May 18 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The most effective lobby group in the world after the Israeli's is the British police. The government will be in for a hot time.May 18 19:23
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DaemonFCTo be fair, I doubt GNOME 3 suits the type of person that's likely to be using a BSD or Solaris system anywayMay 18 19:24
DaemonFCthis is the desktop with the HIG that says mouse preferences confuse people :)May 18 19:24
DaemonFChttp://techrights.org/2011/05/18/cloud-computing-and-osbc/May 18 19:25
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DaemonFCschestowitz, You know Canonical's argument is basically "The stub that runs on your computer as the user interface is open source!"May 18 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT: @vSUPERfreckles I uploaded a @YouTube video http://youtu.be/htTs9CC52cA?a Anti-DRM Blog Targets Nintendo For 3DS User AgreementMay 18 19:26
DaemonFCeven though that software does absolutely nothing on its own without Amazon's proprietary storage service as a back endMay 18 19:26
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MinceRwhy does a DE have to depend on a kernel exactly?May 18 19:27
DaemonFCUbuntu One is dangerous to use because it hides Amazon's actual TOS, which states that they can give your data to anyoneMay 18 19:27
DaemonFCincluding the government, without a warrant May 18 19:27
MinceRnot that i care about gnomeMay 18 19:27
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm not sure really. KDE is POSIX compliant and runs on many POSIX systems, in whole, including OS XMay 18 19:28
DaemonFCand it doesn't seem to suffer for itMay 18 19:28
DaemonFCand most of the applications have a passable Windows port :)May 18 19:28
DaemonFCWhy does userspace have to care about the kernel? Isn't that why POSIX exists?May 18 19:28
DaemonFCyou know, standard interfacesMay 18 19:28
MinceRi consider GNU/HURD, *BSD and GNU/kFreeBSD more important than winbows or OSuX :>May 18 19:28
DaemonFCkernel shouldn't matterMay 18 19:29
DaemonFCso onMay 18 19:29
MinceRyes, that's why libc existsMay 18 19:29
schestowitz_Goblin: quick pointMay 18 19:29
DaemonFCMinceR, My point is that POSIX is good enough that KDE runs on any OS that is POSIX compliantMay 18 19:29
DaemonFCincluding OS XMay 18 19:29
schestowitzJust tested recording with audacity while talkingMay 18 19:29
schestowitzworks OKMay 18 19:29
schestowitzI also sorted out the videosMay 18 19:29
schestowitzNext time we do video you won't be hearing echoMay 18 19:29
DaemonFCit kind of makes GNOME's proposed dependence on Linux seem like fanboyism to me May 18 19:29
DaemonFCnow, performance and other considerations are important, and Linux usually beats the BSDs and Solaris and OS X there May 18 19:30
MinceRit makes it seem like deliberately bad design to meMay 18 19:30
DaemonFCbut simply running software shouldn't invoke an argument for thatMay 18 19:30
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73803243May 18 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 18:17:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Belated thanks! :)May 18 19:31
MinceRjust like it was ever since they went from copying KDE to copying macosMay 18 19:31
DaemonFCfor a while, there wasn't very much to differentiate a Red Hat GNOME and Red Hat KDE systemMay 18 19:31
schestowitz_please_ listen to EP 200 of LOMay 18 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures: Revealing Investors - http://bit.ly/lHcUGm some interesting names in there #patenttrollsMay 18 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] prepare for at least a week of boring phones #sip_and_click http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110518May 18 19:31
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DaemonFCthanks to the whole bluecurve theme and suchMay 18 19:31
schestowitz^ _GoblinMay 18 19:31
DaemonFCMinceR, They've also gutted Nautilus with the help of UbuntuMay 18 19:32
DaemonFCyou notice how it went from being a powerful file manager with tons of extensions, to another OS X clone?May 18 19:33
MinceRdunno, it still seems to be powerful if it's configured properlyMay 18 19:33
MinceRmaybe because the competition is also weakMay 18 19:33
MinceR(i'm not including orthodox file managers in that)May 18 19:34
DaemonFCMinceR, I posted a bug on Nautilus because I upgraded from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 (iirc) and my transcoding extensions brokeMay 18 19:34
DaemonFCand it was like "Oh yeah, I know, right? We like totally yanked out that chunk of the extension API!"May 18 19:34
DaemonFCI posted the bug on GNOME's trackerMay 18 19:34
MinceR:>May 18 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Thinking about giving up on email all together. How would life look without email?May 18 19:35
DaemonFCso I asked something like "So what replaces it?"May 18 19:35
DaemonFC"Nothing"May 18 19:35
DaemonFCof course, silly meMay 18 19:35
DaemonFCMinceR, It's going beyond "visible preferences have a cost" and into the realm of "extensions API which a casual user never sees is gone for no reason"May 18 19:36
DaemonFCso I just don't knowMay 18 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] What Linux luminary do u want to see at the #Linuxcon 20th Anniversary Gala and panel? Pls give me your ideas. #Linux (via @amcpherson)May 18 19:36
DaemonFCI guess this has all been a long time comingMay 18 19:36
schestowitzjoin the club... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/08/10/giving-up-on-email/May 18 19:36
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schestowitz"@mattl read join the club... "May 18 19:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, I haven't seen a single spam since I ditched HotmailMay 18 19:37
schestowitzhotmail is a known spam plagueMay 18 19:37
schestowitzI wrote about it for yearsMay 18 19:37
schestowitzLots of reportsMay 18 19:37
schestowitzit also kills genuine mailMay 18 19:37
DaemonFCit was getting ridiculous, the spam to mail ratio in my hotmail was like 15:1May 18 19:37
schestowitzlegitimat stuffMay 18 19:38
DaemonFCand their filters are awfulMay 18 19:38
schestowitz*mateMay 18 19:38
DaemonFCmost of the stuff their filters nabbed was legitMay 18 19:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: well, it's msftMay 18 19:38
DaemonFCyeah, there's that :)May 18 19:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, GMX is excellentMay 18 19:38
DaemonFCthe only mail in my inbox is stuff that should be thereMay 18 19:39
DaemonFCeven after like 5 monthsMay 18 19:39
DaemonFCand their IMAP servers aren't totally broken most of the time, Hotmail's wereMay 18 19:39
DaemonFCHotmail is just getting worse and worse and worseMay 18 19:40
DaemonFCI don't really like webmail interfaces. I like IMAP because it's clean and it's just a local representation of the state of your account on the server.May 18 19:40
DaemonFCI don't know why everyone isn't using IMAPMay 18 19:41
DaemonFCToo busy trying to get Microsoft Internet Explorer working with Microsoft Hotmail I suppose :DMay 18 19:41
DaemonFCPeople should just realize that whatever you replace Microsoft products with, you're right May 18 19:42
DaemonFCHow right you are is subject to interpretation.May 18 19:43
koolhead17DaemonFC: lol :PMay 18 19:45
DaemonFCBallmer has no vision. It's not just because of his string of bad purchases, or the lines of failed products. It's because Microsoft waits until something else starts becoming universally accepted to get their foot in the door.May 18 19:45
DaemonFCZune or Windows Phone might have done better if this was, you know, several years ago and nobody already had better stuff on the market.May 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Local Atmosphere Heated Rapidly Before Japan Quake http://ur1.ca/47omi !scienceMay 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @johnsu01: CAN'T TALK NOW, I'M FACEBOOKINGMay 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ALT 6.0.0-20110517 is released http://www.altlinux.com/ in Russia, ALT releases users (from Microsoft)May 18 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Russia expels Israeli military attache. http://www.france24.com/en/20110518-russia-expels-israeli-military-attache-spying#May 18 19:46
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DaemonFCQuick we need more money, release new Windows/Office and make it so what we have no isn't really forwards compatible!May 18 19:47
DaemonFCGo down to the vault Steve, and chisel off some more gold to fund these crappy satellite divisions with!May 18 19:48
MinceRum... hello? nobody had better stuff on the market?May 18 19:48
DaemonFCWait for it.....wait for it......NEW WALLPAPER, it's WINDOWS 7!May 18 19:49
DaemonFCDEVELOPERS!May 18 19:49
DaemonFCMinceR, I mean competing with Android and iOS they really have no chance with Windows Phone 7May 18 19:49
MinceRthey didn't have a chance against any smartphone platformMay 18 19:50
DaemonFCit will be another heavily subsidized division that gets quietly killed when they can no longer stomach the lossesMay 18 19:50
DaemonFClike ZuneMay 18 19:50
MinceRconsider that previous versions of winblows ce were far superior to kin7May 18 19:50
schestowitzthey 7washed this one tooMay 18 19:51
DaemonFCMinceR, It takes more time to break a habit than to develop one May 18 19:51
schestowitzdon't recall the official name ATMMay 18 19:51
DaemonFCin retail you also learn soon that customer buying patterns follow that ruleMay 18 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "online experiences to our supposed interests can affect our ability to get a view of the world the way it really is." http://is.gd/aaOW0oMay 18 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer !FreeByron and his folks just went in to the office. ~30m till we come out, roughly. !cdnpoli #thecanadianjusticesystemMay 18 19:51
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schestowitz7 budyMay 18 19:51
schestowitz7 bundyMay 18 19:51
DaemonFCeveryone who wants a smartphone currently has and knows the competitors May 18 19:51
schestowitzDaemonFC is a young version of ed o'enalMay 18 19:52
DaemonFCintroducing new products to an established market without any real improvements is pointlessMay 18 19:52
schestowitz*neal/nielMay 18 19:52
schestowitzodd to think the show I watched the most was from FoxMay 18 19:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'd like to see what their R&D department is spending the money on?May 18 19:52
DaemonFChookers, drugs?May 18 19:53
MinceRi prefer Jack O'NeillMay 18 19:53
DaemonFCI think Microsoft R&D took on the Bush Administrations appointments to Health and Human Services and the EPA May 18 19:53
DaemonFCit explains everything if you think about itMay 18 19:53
DaemonFCor DHS for that matterMay 18 19:54
DaemonFC!google DHS Laura CallahanMay 18 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Laura Callahan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_CallahanMay 18 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Laura Callahan resigns from DHS -- Government Computer News | http://gcn.com/articles/2004/04/02/laura-callahan-resigns-from-dhs.aspxMay 18 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Callahan resigns from Homeland Security Department -- Government ... | http://gcn.com/articles/2004/03/26/callahan-resigns-from-homeland-security-department.aspxMay 18 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Cut-Rate Diplomas - Reason Magazine | http://reason.com/archives/2005/01/01/cut-rate-diplomasMay 18 19:54
DaemonFC:)May 18 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @satipera: The days of the USA and EU defining and interpreting law are coming to an end.May 18 19:55
DaemonFCGraduated from Motel 6 UniversityMay 18 19:56
DaemonFCand appointed to the DHS by Bush heheMay 18 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Victory! Scholastic Pulls Its American #Coal Foundation Curriculum http://is.gd/g7QdxP infuriating, outrageous brainwashMay 18 19:56
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DaemonFCschestowitz, CLEAN COAL ZOMG!!!!May 18 19:57
DaemonFCDEVELOPERS!!!May 18 19:57
DaemonFCwell, we could hypothetically sequester the carbon emissions somehow, like undergroundMay 18 19:57
DaemonFCwe're never going to do it, but we can call this hypothetical clean coalMay 18 19:57
DaemonFCB-)May 18 19:57
DaemonFCyou know, then we can educate children about itMay 18 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @letoams Byron is free ! @freebyron http://lockerz.com/s/102733566 !cdnpoli !freebyronMay 18 19:58
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DaemonFCso they grow up thinking coal is clean and pure as the driven snowMay 18 19:58
*DaemonFC rubs hands together and licks his lipsMay 18 19:58
DaemonFCmuahahahahaaaa!!!!May 18 19:58
schestowitzrub your grubby hands on coalMay 18 19:59
schestowitzCoalIsGreenMay 18 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So many people want to end Internet Anonymity; Eugene Kaspersky is just one more http://goo.gl/STHgaMay 18 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ArchLinux Review http://is.gd/l0vz3M "Arch Linux is not meant for users just migrating to Linux from Windows or MAC OS[uX]."May 18 20:00
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DaemonFCMinceR, If you turn to the next chapter.....The Many Ecological Benefits of Strip Mining: Giving Mother Nature a Back MassageMay 18 20:00
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DaemonFC:)May 18 20:00
DaemonFC"Arch Linux was founded by Judd Vinet, a Canadian" Well, that explains everything.May 18 20:01
DaemonFC:PMay 18 20:01
schestowitzvector too IIRCMay 18 20:02
DaemonFCschestowitz, What's all this package signing stuff aboot, eh?May 18 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Let's Unite To Create A Skype Killer! http://is.gd/CyTNlm Let's! I'm on schestowitz@ekiga.net (24/7)May 18 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching the game on 5. Up the blades stuff the gooners. ;-) #footballMay 18 20:03
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Let's Unite to get Skype in the default installation of UbuntuMay 18 20:03
schestowitzcan'tMay 18 20:04
schestowitzwon't match criteriaMay 18 20:04
DaemonFCI'm sure it can be rewritten in .NETMay 18 20:04
DaemonFCmaybe Microsoft can re-license it under MS-PLMay 18 20:05
MinceRthey'll never show you the codeMay 18 20:05
DaemonFCMinceR, The NEW Microsoft might Share it with usMay 18 20:06
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:06
MinceRyeah, rightMay 18 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IT Majors Create Open Virtualization Alliance http://is.gd/0uq3ay can't be bad, can it?May 18 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/443558/rssMay 18 20:06
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DaemonFCMinceR, Ballmer loves sharing source May 18 20:07
DaemonFCdidn't you know that?May 18 20:07
DaemonFCok, enough sillyness :PMay 18 20:08
DaemonFC*silliness May 18 20:08
DaemonFCOpen Virtualization Alliance, maybe they can create an open virtualization solution that isn't crippledMay 18 20:09
MinceRis there a non-open one that isn't crippled?May 18 20:09
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DaemonFCI'm surprised nobody has forked VirtualBox and gone on to add proper USB pass throughMay 18 20:10
DaemonFCI know the proprietary extensions can do thatMay 18 20:10
DaemonFCVirtualBox is the closest thing to a free software virtual machine program that works well and supports most operating systems as guestsMay 18 20:10
MinceRi've seen virtualbox misbehave tooMay 18 20:10
DaemonFCSun/SCOracle keep the goodies in a proprietary add-ons packageMay 18 20:11
MinceRthough iirc they fixed that particular bugMay 18 20:11
DaemonFCthen there's VMWare, which is working on proper GPU acceleration for the guest using Gallium3dMay 18 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Visual Studio upgrade focuses on agile development (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/lQsvg6May 18 20:11
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_GoblinDaemonFC, did you used to be a Microsoft MVP?May 18 20:11
DaemonFC_Goblin, Yep.May 18 20:11
_GoblinDaemonFC, then really you are the last person to speak on the "evils" of Microsoft since you were suckered in and was an MVP for them....nobody else here was that silly or hypocritical.....May 18 20:12
_GoblinI certainly wouldn't accept the "award"May 18 20:12
_GoblinI don't think anyone else here wouldMay 18 20:13
DaemonFChypocritical would be if I still had that hat and was saying bad things about themMay 18 20:13
_GoblinWhat was it......."Just following orders"?May 18 20:13
DaemonFCnot I had that hat over 10 years agoMay 18 20:13
_Goblinthats probably worse....May 18 20:13
_Goblinto take the award and then stab them in the backMay 18 20:13
DaemonFCnot really, it's all about context May 18 20:14
_GoblinI may think MS has alot to answer for but I wouldn't take with one hand and stab in the back with the other.May 18 20:14
DaemonFCWindows got much worseMay 18 20:14
DaemonFCfree software alternatives got much better May 18 20:14
DaemonFCnot just Windows getting worse as, code bloat or bugs or suchMay 18 20:15
_Goblinso you were happy with MS actions as long as the products were good?May 18 20:15
DaemonFCI mean it's gotten much more abusive of the userMay 18 20:15
ThistleWebyou wouldn't think so given the insatiable appetite you hhave for bitching about everythingMay 18 20:15
_GoblintrueMay 18 20:15
DaemonFCand there are design defects like DRM and Activation and stuff that weren't there when I took that hatMay 18 20:15
_Goblinthis is the problem with MS advocacy.....when the teet runs dry the advocates rebel......its all about the perksMay 18 20:16
_Goblingive a man a MS freebie he'll shill for a day.......give him an MVP and he'll shill for a lifetimeMay 18 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turned the footy over due to gratuitous mention of Liz Windsor.May 18 20:16
sebsebsebwell that was fun, just told someone I knew on IRC a bit here and there, about Mageia, who's likeing KDE now :) so he'll probably try the RC soonish and possbily even report bugs if come acrossMay 18 20:16
DaemonFC_Goblin, Not, really. It's like one day Windows lets you do just about anything you damned well please, and the next day it says it needs to be activated at arbitrary points in time, and it's sending back personal information on you, and it's telling you you can't record your TV shows, and companies that install rootkits to enforce their own DRM are Microsoft partnersMay 18 20:17
DaemonFCso the intentions of Microsoft were probably building to that point all along, but when they are actually put into practice and become a real pain in the ass, you look up and say "What am I doing with this?"May 18 20:17
DaemonFCcontextMay 18 20:17
_Goblinbut you took the MVP.....the problem for many (myself included) is not about the products, not about the crappy user experience its also about the MS tactics.May 18 20:17
_Goblinand Comes proved that MS had these tactics years ago....these tactics didn't come about at the time of vista.May 18 20:18
DaemonFCyeah, the tactics changed, you're saying the same thing I amMay 18 20:18
_GoblinComes V Microsoft?May 18 20:18
_GoblinIBM?May 18 20:18
_Goblinhas Microsoft ever been any different?May 18 20:19
DaemonFCtactics = actionsMay 18 20:19
DaemonFCEULA = wordsMay 18 20:19
_Goblinthe difference now with the net is that the cat is out of the bagMay 18 20:19
DaemonFCthe words might have been the same all along, but the actions changedMay 18 20:19
DaemonFCand actions do speak louder than wordsMay 18 20:19
ThistleWebkeeping cats in bags now too? that's a new one, do the RSPCA know about this when they endosrse Microsoft products?May 18 20:19
_Goblinactions changed? really? When did that happen?May 18 20:20
DaemonFCstarted with Windows XP reallyMay 18 20:20
_Goblinthistleweb: Its better then putting it into a bag and then into a river......May 18 20:20
DaemonFCgot a lot worse with Windows XP MCE and then VistaMay 18 20:20
_GoblinDaemonFC, and up until that point MS had been honourable?May 18 20:20
ThistleWebthat treatment is left for the poor iredeemable kitties who like linuxMay 18 20:20
_Goblinwhat year(s) were you a MVP?May 18 20:20
DaemonFCnot really, but it wasn't like they stopped you from doing anything either May 18 20:21
_Goblinwhat year(s) were you a MVP?May 18 20:21
DaemonFC1998-2000 iircMay 18 20:21
_Goblinand the exhibits from the Comes case, remind me of the years that many of them came from?May 18 20:22
DaemonFCby came out do you mean widely published?May 18 20:22
_Goblininfact one could argue MS is better behaved than before due to being slapped down.......May 18 20:23
DaemonFCor in places I was reading?May 18 20:23
DaemonFCnot really slapped downMay 18 20:23
DaemonFCtaxation is more like itMay 18 20:23
_Goblinno not published, when were the exhibits created.May 18 20:23
DaemonFCthe EU used antitrust as a code word for a shakedownMay 18 20:23
DaemonFCthey didn't stop anythingMay 18 20:23
_Goblinand I'd agree although.....May 18 20:24
_Goblinits far harder now for MS to misbehave with the net and all than it was in the less net days of 2000.....May 18 20:24
DaemonFChehe, give us a billion dollars, now go do whatever you want. Oh, and make a version of Windows without media Player, available to OEMs only, at full price!May 18 20:24
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:24
DaemonFCand the first time anyone with that edition double clicks a media file, it asks to install Media PlayerMay 18 20:25
DaemonFCthat's a punishmentMay 18 20:25
DaemonFCding ding , ding ding, stop an pay the tollMay 18 20:26
DaemonFCthat's all the EU has doneMay 18 20:26
DaemonFCtake money and let Microsoft do whatever they want there in returnMay 18 20:26
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DaemonFCthey're just another corrupt government that Microsoft has paid money to in order to do businessMay 18 20:27
DaemonFCthere has been no antitrust action against Microsoft in the EUMay 18 20:28
MinceRsee, that's how the EU defends the interests of its member states and citizensMay 18 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Pixoul Photography: Official !UDS-O group photo and personal photo set http://goo.gl/8199A !uMay 18 20:28
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MinceRthe EU refuses to have any benign functionMay 18 20:28
DaemonFCMinceR, They're protecting you! That's why Windows 7 is so freely available in Hungary with no limitations imposed. I trust you received your share of the fine money.May 18 20:29
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Top 4 Lightweight, Official Ubuntu Based Alternatives for !Ubuntu 11.04's Unity 3D http://goo.gl/eeutBMay 18 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Midori 0.3.6 brings welcome fixes, small speed bump http://goo.gl/P2qqbMay 18 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Laura Czajkowski: Re-approvals for O-Cycle rules and overview http://goo.gl/VVZvkMay 18 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the Senate: Confirm Goodwin Liu http://bit.ly/lgOTivMay 18 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Space shuttle Endeavour docks with ISS http://ur1.ca/47oz1 !scienceMay 18 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was spoilt as a kid. First version of Paranoid I heard was by The Dickies. The original was tame after that. #music #controversialMay 18 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @eightlines The last person still jailed on charges re: last summer’s #G20 summit released on bail today http://ur1.ca/47p01 !freeByronMay 18 20:35
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_Goblin"they're just another corrupt government that Microsoft has paid money to in order to do business" - A business I hasten to add that you were more than happy to align yourself to.May 18 20:35
_Goblinthats not an attack merely an observation when you seek to claim issues with Microsoft....May 18 20:35
_Goblinwe here have the moral highground, we wouldn't affiliate ourselves with anything we seek to challenge.May 18 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @letoams !freebyron went home - EOCIRCUS http://lockerz.com/s/102736378May 18 20:36
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schestowitz_Goblin: indeedMay 18 20:37
schestowitz[Never seen you like this]May 18 20:37
_Goblin:)May 18 20:37
_GoblinI think my Unity observations woke me up to the fact that hypocricy and double standards exist in those who seek to be critical....May 18 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 168 dents!May 18 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @eightlines Is this typical for bail conditions? "Police will allowed to search...home once a week, without a search warrant" !freeByronMay 18 20:38
_GoblinWhilst Unity is a massive departure from the way I am used to working, I can appreciate whats being done and how its beneficial to many.  Of course there exists an attitude "I don't like it...I represent everyone......burn it".....that wouldn't be so bad if the people saying it were not guilty of gross hypocricy.May 18 20:39
_Goblinand I am guilty of gross bad spellingMay 18 20:40
ThistleWebI noticed the same people who refuse to adapt to anything new because it's outside their comfort zone, happily expect windows users to adapt and embrace a whole new OS as well as UIMay 18 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rd @Zandelion While the conditions for !freeByron are insane, they are comparable to other G20 arrestees. Solidarity with all. !cdnpoliMay 18 20:41
ThistleWeb"you shouldn't cling onto your beloved UI, but it's ok for me to"May 18 20:41
_Goblinand this is the problem....if everytime a product comes along that offers an alternative to MS is hit because of X,Y,Z....we may as well just give up........May 18 20:42
DaemonFCthere's lots of things people are guilty of May 18 20:42
DaemonFCincluding an inflated sense of importance May 18 20:42
_Goblinyes, agreedMay 18 20:42
_Goblinand thats the problem too.May 18 20:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: in my view, ryan is and was misguidedMay 18 20:43
_Goblinwho is anyone to say Unity is a bad idea.....I'd suggest that someone in an IRC has rather less success than Canonical who have proved time and again that they meet the needs of the majority of their users.May 18 20:43
schestowitzHe comes here because we are receptive and don't ban him like in some other placesMay 18 20:43
MinceRi still say unity is a bad ideaMay 18 20:43
schestowitzhis defence of Microsoft as a tribalism thingMay 18 20:43
schestowitzAnd he naturally complains about everything, Microsoft tooMay 18 20:43
ThistleWebschestowitz: you might wanna keep a note of that quote for the reputation credibility eulogyMay 18 20:44
MinceRthe ideas it incorporates are just as wrong now as they were when they appeared in macos or the previous panelMay 18 20:44
DaemonFCno, I think I'm offended by Unity because I don't like to see things that point out the (probably obvious) truth that most people are pretty denseMay 18 20:44
_GoblinI don't agree with every decision that Canonical has made, however history has proved that they made the right choice....Canonical are the ones with a popular distro not me.....If that ever changes I can say to Canonical "I told you so" but until that time, I think a little faith and a look at history shows who has the better ideas.May 18 20:44
schestowitzThistleWeb: we've always distanced ourselves from his views, many of usMay 18 20:44
DaemonFCand incapable of analyzing, learning, and understanding May 18 20:44
ThistleWebif you say soMay 18 20:44
schestowitzpeople who stalk IRC know thatMay 18 20:44
DaemonFCand this stuff is just an insult May 18 20:45
MinceRdid history prove them right about advertising bìng too?May 18 20:45
DaemonFCpeople should see it as oneMay 18 20:45
schestowitzThistleWeb: they generally know who is a key trusted person and who makes everyone facepalmMay 18 20:45
MinceRor about redirecting referral payments to themselves in banshee?May 18 20:45
_GoblinMinceR, I think it would be unfair to expect that every decision that Canonical made met with success, but I think the greater good was served in general and it shows by just how many people use the distroMay 18 20:45
ThistleWebthey also see someone with the ability to change it, even while it's happening, and choose not to lift a fingerMay 18 20:45
schestowitzI've never seen the mono trolls attributing DaemonFC's opinions to the siteMay 18 20:45
MinceR_Goblin: i think that's less and less true with each decision they makeMay 18 20:46
MinceR_Goblin: also, number of users is only as good an argument as it is for using winblowsMay 18 20:46
ThistleWebit's one thing in a place you have no power to affect it, it's something else when you doMay 18 20:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, So that would mean if I am a plant, I've done a really lousy jobMay 18 20:46
_GoblinMinceR, but then from the limited view I get (and the stats I see) I see Ubuntu going from strength to strength.May 18 20:46
schestowitzif _Goblin said something outrageous, they'd pounce at itMay 18 20:46
DaemonFCof course ThistleWeb won't back offMay 18 20:46
ThistleWebit's like stuff happening in front of the boss, and the boss says nuttinMay 18 20:46
schestowitzBTW, ThistleWeb, your waving of hands is being used against usMay 18 20:46
schestowitzMore so than DaemonFCMay 18 20:47
schestowitzFor example, the mono cultists use your anger at us to discredit the siteMay 18 20:47
_Goblinsure they will make mistakes, but as I say the greater good is sustained and I think the Linux community has much to thank Canonical for.May 18 20:47
ThistleWeblolMay 18 20:47
schestowitzWhich is more damaging than DaemonFC sometimesMay 18 20:47
_Goblinmaybe I'll stop as Im sounding like a Canonical shill....May 18 20:47
schestowitzHEHEMay 18 20:47
schestowitzjono 0/May 18 20:47
_Goblin(not that such a thing exists)May 18 20:47
ThistleWebsorry for pointing out the bleeding obvious, that it's being picked up on and echoe'dMay 18 20:48
schestowitzI was called thatMay 18 20:48
schestowitzMany timesMay 18 20:48
MinceR_Goblin: from the view i get it's going from more uptodate debian to gratis OSuXMay 18 20:48
DaemonFCyou mean ThistleWeb going insane and shouting and cursing on Twitter does damage when he hashes it as #techrights?May 18 20:48
DaemonFCzomg!May 18 20:48
schestowitzThere was one who stalked me cause he thought I worked for Shuttleworth or somehtingMay 18 20:48
schestowitzjono: does Mark hate me? :-)May 18 20:48
MinceRmaybe he just considers you "peanut gallery"May 18 20:48
schestowitzHeheMay 18 20:48
DaemonFCMark loves you because he is the one true godMay 18 20:48
schestowitzfor sho;May 18 20:49
DaemonFCand jono is his progeny May 18 20:49
_Goblinbetter him than BallmerMay 18 20:49
schestowitzFor lifeMay 18 20:49
schestowitzwhat was the acronymMay 18 20:49
schestowitzbenevolent something for life?May 18 20:49
schestowitzWhen people call themselves benevolent something they have a God complexMay 18 20:49
schestowitzSome people accuse RMS of thatMay 18 20:49
_GoblinDaemonFC, and to be fair, you paid homage to the holy Microsoft when you accepted the MVPMay 18 20:49
schestowitzAnd PJ said some days ago in an interview "I was born to do Groklaw"May 18 20:49
_Goblin"With this award, I thee wed....."May 18 20:50
schestowitzWhich struck me as kind of evangelistic... unless you said it tongue in cheek-wise... hard to tell from textMay 18 20:50
DaemonFC_Goblin, I took communion with Satan, I slaughtered a goat and raped some virgins tooMay 18 20:50
DaemonFCyou might want to add thatMay 18 20:50
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:50
DaemonFC(no, not really)May 18 20:50
_GoblinI thought the initiation into MS just involved invading peoples comment sections on blogs.May 18 20:50
DaemonFCnopeMay 18 20:51
_Goblinand then you had to lick balmers armpit blindfolded or somethingMay 18 20:51
DaemonFCI did respond to people posting on Microsoft newsgroups thoughMay 18 20:51
DaemonFCUsing Outlook Express evenMay 18 20:51
MinceRschestowitz: "self-appointed benevolent dictator for life", of which "benevolent" is a lieMay 18 20:51
DaemonFCMinceR, It always is, right?May 18 20:52
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:52
MinceR3 out of 4, not badMay 18 20:52
MinceRDaemonFC: pretty muchMay 18 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Holy crap. That was close: nearly missed the flight. Knock knock knocking on airplane's dooors...May 18 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer My faith in the crown's ability to be fair is badly shaken. The extent of their tunnel vision is frightening. !FreeByronMay 18 20:53
DaemonFCOK, well, Ubuntu is a product, the goal of which is to make money via users, unlike the traditional payment model, the idea is to sell you fog services and proprietary software after the fact.May 18 20:53
DaemonFCAm I missing anything here MinceR?May 18 20:53
_GoblinDaemonFC, and that is different to say Android because?May 18 20:54
MinceRactually even in the traditional model it's common practice to sell you outMay 18 20:54
MinceRfor example, as a victim for malware/foistwareMay 18 20:54
_GoblinDaemonFC, infact how do you expect them to make money? Power of positive thought?May 18 20:54
DaemonFCLike other commercial products based on open source software, the proprietary blobs are promoted as a feature May 18 20:54
DaemonFCnot a wartMay 18 20:54
DaemonFCjono already refused to admit that Flash is a wart that has bugs they can't fixMay 18 20:54
DaemonFC:)May 18 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer Make no mistake; Byron is NOT free. He is out on bail under unreasonably strict conditions, but he is out. Small win !FreeByronMay 18 20:55
schestowitz[20:51] <MinceR> schestowitz: "self-appointed benevolent dictator for life"May 18 20:55
schestowitzMubarak?May 18 20:55
MinceRi don't much care about how they make money, considering that they're up against competition that works as a hobby and still ends up with better products than theyMay 18 20:55
MinceRschestowitz: now you're getting itMay 18 20:55
schestowitzthe man who commanded tank drivers to crush people with their tanks?May 18 20:55
MinceRbetter ask him about thatMay 18 20:56
MinceRi mean, shuttlecock, not moo-barrackMay 18 20:56
DaemonFCMinceR, Remember Linspire? "We add Flash, that's a feature! We have nonfree codecs, that's a feature! We support MICROSOFT formats, you can continue using them and, it's a feature!"May 18 20:56
schestowitzit was exciting to watch the military's reactionMay 18 20:56
DaemonFCThat's just like Ubuntu minus the up front chargeMay 18 20:56
schestowitzFirst time seeing so closely on the Web how the army turns against the leadershipMay 18 20:56
MinceRDaemonFC: yes, i remember linspire dying :>May 18 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] New world record train-security-gate at Brussels airport. Half with bare feet (jammed laces after security). Bolt is nobody now!May 18 20:56
schestowitzAlthough the West will install another Mubarak stealthilyMay 18 20:56
schestowitzMinceR: mono-barrackMay 18 20:57
MinceRor they'll just bribe whomever the people chooseMay 18 20:57
schestowitzobama?May 18 20:57
DaemonFCthere was never any nudging to say "Hey, depending on this stuff hurts you in the end"May 18 20:57
DaemonFCand there isn't any of that in Ubuntu eitherMay 18 20:57
schestowitzi got amused by the MarkS IRC sessionsMay 18 20:57
schestowitzWhere he had that acronym nameMay 18 20:57
MinceRDaemonFC: the FSF says that, and it's fashionable in some circles to write them off as crazy peopleMay 18 20:57
MinceRschestowitz: i used to be amused by it, back when canonical was benignMay 18 20:57
schestowitz"OMG! I can talk to rich astronaut guy who invented Linux... he's rich and therefore smart... infinitely!"May 18 20:58
DaemonFClolMay 18 20:58
schestowitzI don't like those..May 18 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... Raw capture finally converted into video. !CreepersMay 18 20:58
schestowitzThe self-gratification they get "speaking to the little people"May 18 20:58
schestowitzIt's more vain than ignoring them sometimesMay 18 20:58
DaemonFC_Goblin is an astronaut who takes time to talk to MEMay 18 20:58
*DaemonFC is humbledMay 18 20:58
schestowitzfame by associationMay 18 20:59
DaemonFCThistleWeb went to freaking MARS May 18 20:59
schestowitz_Goblin: can I touch you?May 18 20:59
schestowitz_Goblin: joke..May 18 20:59
schestowitzthe other day my mate said he worked with all the Manchester United teamMay 18 20:59
schestowitzIn his workplaceMay 18 20:59
schestowitzSo I joked.. "Can I touch your eyes?"May 18 20:59
*schestowitz reaches out with hands to eyes :-)May 18 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks so much to friends in other parts of the world who support !freeByron @lryan98245 @satipera @haris :DMay 18 21:00
MinceRcan i touch your pineal gland?May 18 21:00
DaemonFCschestowitz, What's Linux? I use Ubuntu. I didn't see anything about a Linux.May 18 21:00
*MinceR reaches out with a hand and a chainsawMay 18 21:00
MinceR:>May 18 21:00
DaemonFCcan you help me out here,? is Linux open source like Ubuntu?May 18 21:00
schestowitzMinceR: can I touch your upside-down retina?May 18 21:00
DaemonFCis Linux important? It must not be because Google comes back with Ubuntu insteadMay 18 21:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: Ubuntu is everythingMay 18 21:00
schestowitzBut...May 18 21:01
schestowitzIt has derivativesMay 18 21:01
schestowitzLike Linux and open sourceMay 18 21:01
schestowitzFor those who want advanced stuffMay 18 21:01
schestowitzLinux is UbuntuMay 18 21:01
schestowitzBut they make some spinoffsMay 18 21:01
schestowitzLike Android...May 18 21:01
_GoblinDaemonFC, have I missed something? Astronaut?May 18 21:01
DaemonFCyeahMay 18 21:01
schestowitzAnd Linux the kernal [sic]May 18 21:01
_Goblinwas afk for a short while...May 18 21:01
schestowitzthey put it in a repoMay 18 21:01
schestowitzLike unityMay 18 21:01
schestowitz!google unity-linuxMay 18 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Unity Linux | http://unity-linux.org/May 18 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Unity – A Modern Lightweight Desktop For Ubuntu [Linux] | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/unity-modern-lightweight-desktop-ubuntu-linux/May 18 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The new Linux Desktop: Ubuntu's Unity - Computerworld Blogs | http://blogs.computerworld.com/17315/the_new_linux_desktop_ubuntus_unityMay 18 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Unity Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_LinuxMay 18 21:01
schestowitzRemember this?May 18 21:01
schestowitzWent nowhere AFAIKMay 18 21:02
schestowitz_Goblin: so was ShuttleworthMay 18 21:02
schestowitzHe went to space where they had no keyboard.., well, no QWERTYMay 18 21:02
schestowitz"so he was like... man, this space thing is like... nothing to do. AFK."May 18 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @lryan98245 Happy and emotional day for the !freeByron people in Canada (& elsewhere). Hoping for the same for !freebradley people here.May 18 21:03
schestowitz_Goblin: a friend come over tomorrow to register and build another site with meMay 18 21:03
schestowitzI showed him oursMay 18 21:03
schestowitzAnd he was impressedMay 18 21:03
schestowitzAnd another prof. wants me to build a site for his companyMay 18 21:03
schestowitzToday was sunny... 2 hours running and gym... tomorrow morning swimming :-)May 18 21:04
schestowitzFOSS makes easy moneytMay 18 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @sandersch Fuck !< +1May 18 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Selecting Open Source: a Practical View http://is.gd/RsGG5W it is impractical to choose to be locked inMay 18 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Community: Help wanted with XML schedule for #meegoconf http://is.gd/07gGcF #maemo via @mwknMay 18 21:10
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_Goblinschestowitz, :)May 18 21:10
_Goblinsorry was afk..emails and suchMay 18 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sentinella: A Snappy System Sentinel for Linux Lovers http://is.gd/E5CC72 thanks to Jack M. Germain for promoting many such applicationsMay 18 21:11
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schestowitzah :-)May 18 21:11
schestowitz_Goblin: did you listen to Linux Outlaws ep 200?May 18 21:11
schestowitzThey explain how they make the showMay 18 21:11
schestowitzAnd it helps me plan how we'll get good quality sound and videoMay 18 21:12
schestowitzvideo will be better next timeMay 18 21:12
schestowitzI sorted both outMay 18 21:12
schestowitzAnd no proprietary s/w anywhere anymoreMay 18 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] You know, as I use Unity more, I am finding myself quite drawn to it...contrary to some others claims, 11.04 is rock solid for me..May 18 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Qt 5 at the MeeGo Conference http://mge.bz/b5 #MeeGo #Qt #Developer #ProgrammingMay 18 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Check out Bob Duffy being interviewed by Oobly at AppNation 2011; Great interview if you want t... http://fb.me/BwQKt6EAMay 18 21:13
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_Goblinschestowitz, no...I thought you meant the latest ep..Im just listening to that!May 18 21:14
_Goblindoh!May 18 21:14
_GoblinI'll check out 200May 18 21:14
schestowitzOopsMay 18 21:14
schestowitzWell, no harm doneMay 18 21:14
schestowitzIf you enjoyed latestMay 18 21:14
_Goblinmy fault...I see now you made it clear ep 200May 18 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Project News - May 17th, 2011 http://is.gd/M33YVV "DebConf10 Final Report is out..."May 18 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes as I use Unity more, I am finding myself quite drawn to it...contrary to some others claims, 11.04 is rock solid for me..May 18 21:15
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schestowitzBasically, we are best off recording locally too, then merging the originals without network transport losses and degradatiomnMay 18 21:15
schestowitzIt's easy to merge with audacityMay 18 21:15
schestowitz_Goblin: IMHO, our show is better than theirs, but they have done theirs for like 7 times longerMay 18 21:16
schestowitzI set things up such that I can add effects on the fly and it'll get recorded online, not off-line at the end, like editingMay 18 21:16
_Goblinschestowitz, you know, you are going to regret saying that....you can guarantee that it will be busted out of proportion on COLA.May 18 21:17
_GoblinI can see the thread now...... "The self importance of the Techloons"May 18 21:18
schestowitz_Goblin: just came across http://openattitude.com/2011/05/18/ubuntu-studio-the-podcasters-distro/May 18 21:18
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schestowitzThey recently denied unityMay 18 21:18
schestowitz_Goblin: no, if they did that, it would not harm usMay 18 21:19
schestowitzthe worst they can do is ignore usMay 18 21:19
schestowitzor best for themMay 18 21:19
schestowitzGary is ill. So lonely and sick he dwells in other people's livesMay 18 21:19
schestowitzWhen there's no enough drama he'll inject in some libel and make drama out of the libel he spreadMay 18 21:20
schestowitzAnd he seems to be a shill of sorts.May 18 21:20
schestowitzI don't think you ever saw him trying to come to IRC and getting banned like he was banned in digg, netscape and other sitesMay 18 21:21
*schestowitz wonders what PJ is up to after retiringMay 18 21:23
schestowitzI bet she's a taf relieved but bored, tempted to say somethingMay 18 21:23
schestowitz*tadMay 18 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Studio, the podcaster’s distro. http://is.gd/BzrhYr no unity, eitherMay 18 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @mcantelon Byron Sonne still not allowed to see his (now ex) wife. Still not convicted of anything. Crazy. http://ur1.ca/47nvrMay 18 21:25
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_GoblinI have much respect for Gary in that he tries to be very good at what he does.  On paper his tactics are very effective, unfortunately he does not have the skill to deliver them in reality.May 18 21:26
_GoblinAnd you have to give Gary credit for the relentless years of bile he has spewed into COLAMay 18 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A reminder of Graham Linehan's awesomeness: rd @glinner Me and Osama http://post.ly/23oqQ :DMay 18 21:26
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_Goblinit would turn any normal person insane.May 18 21:26
DaemonFCand any insane person normal?May 18 21:27
schestowitzhe's probably paid for itMay 18 21:27
_GoblinyepMay 18 21:27
_Goblinalthough what is normal?May 18 21:27
DaemonFCwhater I say it isMay 18 21:27
_Goblinand what is sane?May 18 21:27
DaemonFC*whateverMay 18 21:27
*xjasonx (185baa56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.91.170.86) has joined #techrightsMay 18 21:27
xjasonxwoo, finished with classes for the dayMay 18 21:27
_Goblin:)May 18 21:27
_GoblinId do anything to go back to studying......May 18 21:28
DaemonFCI need to go digging for an extension cord to vacuum out my carMay 18 21:28
DaemonFCthat's going to be funMay 18 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel invokes #Linux to calm fears of #Windows8 on #ARM http://is.gd/26ftnu fearing vapourware? #lol #vista8 #hardware #hype #marketingMay 18 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] 193 bricks ordered, only 7 more to go to hit our goal of 200! Sent one yet? http://defectivebydesign.org/nintendo3ds #nintendo #drm !dbdMay 18 21:28
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xjasonx_Goblin: and I'd do anything to be done ;-)May 18 21:28
_GoblinDaemonFC, no need.....wind all the windows down and drive down the free way......air circulation does the job!May 18 21:28
xjasonxdid you guys manage to dig up anything on the new mono company?May 18 21:29
_Goblinxjasonx, just wait until you are finished....you know what they say, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.May 18 21:29
DaemonFC_Goblin, One time when I was off my Lithium....I drove about 50 miles down the freeway with my windows down at 130 miles an hourMay 18 21:29
DaemonFCand didn't manage to get pulled overMay 18 21:29
xjasonxwill keep that in mind :)May 18 21:29
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:29
DaemonFCI'm totally normal :DMay 18 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Geek&Poke Tip For Carnivores: How to slaughter a Pig http://goo.gl/HiKQZMay 18 21:30
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_Goblin130.....very dangerous....you do realize that at that speed you have next to no chance of survival?May 18 21:30
_Goblinif you crashMay 18 21:30
xjasonxI don't think my car will even go 130May 18 21:30
DaemonFCsureMay 18 21:30
DaemonFCI didn't really care May 18 21:31
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:31
_Goblinwhat about the person you take out with you?May 18 21:31
_Goblinyou should at least care about them thenMay 18 21:31
DaemonFCif I didn't care about me, I didn't care about themMay 18 21:31
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] 10.. 9.. 8.. 7 more bricks until we reach our goal to Brick Nintendo! http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendoMay 18 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[M]ost datacenters run Linux [...] most embedded devices, such as smartphones, run Linux." ~SVP and GM at Intel http://is.gd/26ftnuMay 18 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bradley Manning has been incarcerated since 26 May, 2010, so his incarceration anniversary will be in 8 days (Thanks @r7) !freeBradleyMay 18 21:31
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schestowitz_Goblin: http://techrights.org/2009/01/02/gary-stewart-flatfish-troll-unmasked/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfingMay 18 21:32
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_GoblinI would hope you would consider others.....if you are going to risk your own life at those speeds, the least you can do is not put anyone else at risk.May 18 21:32
xjasonxschestowitz: did you see this? http://twitter.com/#!/keybuk/status/70305299457773569May 18 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr@keybuk: Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForeverMay 18 21:32
DaemonFCI've also driven drunk, and stoned across great distancesMay 18 21:32
DaemonFCI do a lot of bad things when I am not taking my medicationMay 18 21:33
DaemonFCand they all seem to make sense at the timeMay 18 21:33
xjasonxlooks like that guy that came out with the Mono Position Statement @ Canonical is behind the funding for Mono @ XamarinMay 18 21:33
xjasonxmight explain a lot of thingsMay 18 21:33
DaemonFC_Goblin, Anyone who says that the medication isn't worth taking is an asshole. May 18 21:34
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:34
xjasonxI saw that the other day but you weren't aroundMay 18 21:34
DaemonFCSchizophrenics and bipolar people that aren't taking their meds are a danger to society May 18 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] RT @mattl 10.. 9.. 8.. 7 more bricks until we reach our goal to Brick Nintendo! http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendoMay 18 21:35
DaemonFCso I absolutely agree that the state has an obligation to do something about itMay 18 21:35
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DaemonFCbut they don't because then you get all these personal responsibility nuts saying it's like something out of 1984May 18 21:35
schestowitzHere's Ballmer's song for DaemonFC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpXdCkvKZAMay 18 21:35
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIk4qTKmKzEMay 18 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @mattl 10.. 9.. 8.. 7 more bricks until we reach our goal to Brick Nintendo! http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendoMay 18 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @letoams !freebyron walking out video http://www.youtube.comhttp://ur1.ca/47pd4May 18 21:36
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schestowitz[21:32] <xjasonx> schestowitz: did you see this? http://twitter.com/#!/keybuk/status/70305299457773569May 18 21:37
TechrightsBot-tr@keybuk: Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForeverMay 18 21:37
schestowitzYes, IIRC i criticised him before as he defended Mono (IIRC)May 18 21:37
schestowitzHe worked for CanonicalMay 18 21:37
xjasonxI knowMay 18 21:37
schestowitz[21:33] <xjasonx> looks like that guy that came out with the Mono Position Statement @ Canonical is behind the funding for Mono @ XamarinMay 18 21:37
schestowitzyesMay 18 21:37
schestowitz[21:33] <xjasonx> looks like that guy that came out with the Mono Position Statement @ Canonical is behind the funding for Mono @ XamarinMay 18 21:37
schestowitzI assume he was joking, no?May 18 21:38
xjasonxI asumed he wasn'tMay 18 21:38
DaemonFCBallmer is the 300 pound bald sweaty angel, I knew itMay 18 21:38
DaemonFC:PMay 18 21:38
schestowitzxjasonx: I assume he didMay 18 21:39
xjasonxwhy would he joke about that?May 18 21:39
schestowitzdoes he have much money?May 18 21:39
schestowitzhe did upstart IIRCMay 18 21:39
DaemonFCWe couldn't find a single reason not to include Mono! Honest!May 18 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @JaggiMontreal !FreeByron case proves that Crown uses the process as punishment NOT any legit finding of guilt: http://bit.ly/iUcqkJMay 18 21:40
schestowitzIf he gave capital, what would the significance of the amount be?May 18 21:40
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:40
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schestowitzBTW, Groklaw too criticised his statement at the timeMay 18 21:40
schestowitzSo he shouldn't corner me with that insultMay 18 21:40
schestowitzand if you think he was serious, ask him to verifyMay 18 21:40
schestowitzhe would not appreciate a ping from meMay 18 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mattl 10.. 9.. 8.. 7 more bricks until we reach our goal to Brick Nintendo! http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendoMay 18 21:41
schestowitzI actually wrote about his own work positivelyMay 18 21:41
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xjasonxmaybe jono would knowMay 18 21:41
schestowitzI have atendency to assume people are more resistant to me than they actually areMay 18 21:42
schestowitzWhen I speak to them it turns out they're coolMay 18 21:42
schestowitzLike some people whose work I sometimes criticse, e.g. AsayMay 18 21:42
schestowitzOr some bloggersMay 18 21:42
schestowitzjono: did Scott help fund MonoVunture?May 18 21:43
schestowitz*VentureMay 18 21:43
xjasonxMonoVultureMay 18 21:43
xjasonx:)May 18 21:43
schestowitzThat tooMay 18 21:43
*schestowitz used to writitng Inetllectual VulturesMay 18 21:43
xjasonxeither way, Scott was p[retty disrespectfulMay 18 21:44
xjasonxof course, that is to be expected from mono proponentsMay 18 21:46
*schestowitz didn't know Bega also had a version.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFv3DBpO2loMay 18 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @LaurenWolfeCPJ #DorothyParvaz released, we're worried abt #journalists behind bars in #Iran & #Syria http://ur1.ca/47phn !freelibertyMay 18 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer I can not express how grateful I am for the tremendous turnout at !freebyron's hearing today. Thank you all, it was amazing.May 18 21:46
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schestowitzxjasonx: they beg for itMay 18 21:46
schestowitzI had one mono booster send me like 10 dents todayMay 18 21:47
schestowitzBerating the FSF too, as usual, but mostly smearing meMay 18 21:47
schestowitzAnd that's just one of themMay 18 21:47
schestowitzThey have been atacking me ever since Trojarin was announced by MVP MiguelMay 18 21:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just downloaded The Tunnel... Get it free (and legally) at: http://vodo.net/thetunnel and don't forget to support the project! !thetunnelMay 18 21:51
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schestowitzturns out it goes as far back as the great depression.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK-0gcn9b4c&feature=relatedMay 18 21:52
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DaemonFChttp://www.slashgear.com/ballmer-critiques-apple-500-more-to-get-a-logo-2038377/May 18 21:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3_kH9nYcA&NR=1&feature=fvwpMay 18 21:53
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xjasonxmy internet huck-upedMay 18 21:59
xjasonxhick-upedMay 18 21:59
DaemonFCComcast May 18 21:59
DaemonFC:)May 18 21:59
xjasonxyepMay 18 21:59
DaemonFCyour internet is ComcasticMay 18 21:59
DaemonFCB-)May 18 21:59
xjasonxI have to choose between Verizon or Comcast hereMay 18 21:59
xjasonxboth suckMay 18 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @kelemeng "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Ulrich Drepper approaches 1." :D http://ur ...May 18 22:00
DaemonFCAT&T isn't much better than Comcast, but they are better May 18 22:00
DaemonFCas soon as my satellite TV contract runs out, I'm going to fiber for everything May 18 22:00
xjasonxwhat I was saying before I left is that I find it unbelievable that jono can consider mono proponents his "friends" when they attack people and behave like bulliesMay 18 22:00
DaemonFCbecause he's one of themMay 18 22:01
xjasonxs/left/got disconnected/May 18 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @trianglegrrl Interviewed by the Sun abt !freebyron. I asked if wd B better 2 interview somebody who actually knows him. Apparently not.May 18 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nice. Video footage looks good. :D !CreepersMay 18 22:01
xjasonxthat's a shameMay 18 22:01
DaemonFChe either avoids talking about Mono or if he can't avoid it, he dodges the question by saying that Canonical "didn't find anything wrong with it" because they're HQ'd in a tax haven where they can't be sued for patent infringementMay 18 22:02
DaemonFCthey can sit back and let anyone stupid enough to believe them take the fallMay 18 22:02
DaemonFCand the Ubuntu Advantage contracts are not worth the paper they are printed onMay 18 22:02
xjasonxjono seems to be mostly a pretty decent guyMay 18 22:02
DaemonFCtry suing them from a US court May 18 22:02
xjasonxbut his choice in friends is rather questionableMay 18 22:03
DaemonFCyou may get the judgment but they can't be compelled to pay upMay 18 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] We can not allow a Mineshaft Gap! #MinecraftMay 18 22:03
DaemonFCRHEL doesn't put Red Hat or their customers in harm's way to begin withMay 18 22:03
DaemonFCI'd be cautious about doing business with a foreign company just because you can't get relief if they screw youMay 18 22:04
DaemonFCsay you have an Ubuntu Advantage agreement that says Canonical will pay the infringement damages if you get sued over their productMay 18 22:05
xjasonxmaybe we can get jono to teach mono devs about open respect ;)May 18 22:05
DaemonFCand then someone does sue youMay 18 22:05
DaemonFCCanonical could refuse to honor the agreement and the US court can't make themMay 18 22:06
DaemonFCCanonical is betting on the trojan horse because they have nothing to loseMay 18 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Want to help create an Ubuntu Power User community? See http://is.gd/uCeUAY #ubuntuMay 18 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. The Google Calendar favicon now shows the actual date? Cool! OoMay 18 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks central america conference (video, Elsalvador with Assange) http://alturl.com/p6meoMay 18 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I actually counted no less than 3 separate lies spread about me today just by the #mono scientologists. Amazing what they do for #TrojarinMay 18 22:08
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MinceRxjasonx: they already know OnesidedRespectMay 18 22:09
schestowitz[21:59] <xjasonx> I have to choose between Verizon or Comcast hereMay 18 22:09
schestowitzI have to pay BT hereMay 18 22:09
schestowitzFor the lineMay 18 22:09
schestowitzI can choose another ISP to pretend there is no monopolyMay 18 22:09
schestowitzBut then they need to go via BT to activate the lineMay 18 22:09
xjasonxMinceR: hehMay 18 22:09
MinceRas for jono being decent, ask him about why he advertised vista7. :>May 18 22:09
xjasonxhe advertized vista7? wtf?May 18 22:10
schestowitzWell..May 18 22:10
schestowitzif you want to rebu betterMay 18 22:10
schestowitzGo to LUG RadioMay 18 22:10
jonoMinceR, wow, someone should call a waaaahmulance :PMay 18 22:10
schestowitzWhose aim was sometimes to just insult peopleMay 18 22:10
MinceRthere you go, decency. :>May 18 22:10
schestowitz!google lug radio trollMay 18 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Linux radio show - LugRadio | http://www.lugradio.org/episodes/May 18 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - A weekend in SF, for LugRadio Live USA 2008 | Haiku Project | http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/koki/2008-04-16/a_weekend_in_sf_for_lugradio_live_usa_2008May 18 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Rss2File « The Troll-Range | http://blog.trollgod.org.uk/projects/rss2file/May 18 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - aseigo: what to say: lug radio, community flamewars, xinerama | http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2005/12/what-to-say-lug-radio-community.htmlMay 18 22:10
schestowitzI never listened to it more than once, but I read this in people's response to OpenRespectMay 18 22:11
schestowitzTurns out he was insulting people for the fun of itMay 18 22:11
schestowitzNot legitimate concerns like mono or patentsMay 18 22:11
schestowitzBut I don't know for sureMay 18 22:11
schestowitzI love the LUG Radio Live documentary they made... watched the whole dealMay 18 22:11
xjasonxI didn't know thatMay 18 22:11
schestowitzthey stopped itMay 18 22:12
xjasonxmaybe the mono devs get their disrespect from jono :pMay 18 22:12
schestowitzIn the show they'd undress into underwear and stuffMay 18 22:12
schestowitzVery Monty Python-ishMay 18 22:12
jonoMinceR, just kidding :-)May 18 22:12
xjasonxhi jonoMay 18 22:13
jonohey xjasonxMay 18 22:13
jonocan't chat, otpMay 18 22:13
jonobiabMay 18 22:13
schestowitzjono: I think I listened to one LUg Radio episodeMay 18 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] My wife has really become attached to Unity. It may be staying on my main rig for some time. !linux !ubuntu !unityMay 18 22:13
jonoschestowitz :-)May 18 22:13
xjasonxdo you know if Scott James Remnant is funding Xamarian?May 18 22:13
schestowitzI reemember how Reverend Ted told me to come to your eventMay 18 22:13
schestowitzBack before the Novell dealMay 18 22:13
jonoxjasonx, ? no not at allMay 18 22:13
schestowitzWhen i was mostly getting along with everyoneMay 18 22:13
jonohe works at GoogleMay 18 22:13
schestowitzjono: are you still in touch with him?May 18 22:13
xjasonxjono: http://twitter.com/#!/keybuk/status/70305299457773569May 18 22:13
TechrightsBot-tr@keybuk: Gosh, I do hope that Boycott Novell don't find out that I'm the angel behind Xamarin's funding! #MonoForeverMay 18 22:13
schestowitzI didn't know he works for Google, he was in Bangee Labs for a whileMay 18 22:14
jonoxjasonx, that was a jokeMay 18 22:14
xjasonxohMay 18 22:14
schestowitzor something like that..May 18 22:14
xjasonxnot very funny if you ask meMay 18 22:14
schestowitzTed took a photo with DiBona some years backMay 18 22:14
schestowitzProbably just before he was hired. Nice chap, like him...May 18 22:14
xjasonxalso not very respectfulMay 18 22:15
schestowitzHe was excited when I submitted something of his to DiggMay 18 22:15
xjasonxthe "joke"May 18 22:15
schestowitzIt made front pageMay 18 22:15
schestowitzAnd he was #1 in wordpress.com for a day, so E-mailed me about itMay 18 22:15
schestowitzHe topped Scoble when he was still a shill (TE) on Ballmer's payrollMay 18 22:15
schestowitzBoycott Novell is not as active as a push anymore cause there's no NovellMay 18 22:16
schestowitzI still run the BN part a few times a weekMay 18 22:16
schestowitzTomorow I have a post about itMay 18 22:16
schestowitz*rrorMay 18 22:16
schestowitz[If I find then time]May 18 22:16
xjasonxjono: tell the mono devs that if they want credibility they should stop their smear campaignsMay 18 22:19
xjasonxand their bullyingMay 18 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I remember I said something in this direction needed to be done about two years ago and people where saying I was bitching. ;)May 18 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Stay safe, people....May 18 22:21
xjasonxhttp://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza/status/70958119567626240May 18 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@migueldeicaza: I will be speaking this afternoon at MIT at the Boston Linux User Group about Mono.May 18 22:22
xjasonxthere he goes trying to poison peopleMay 18 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right....I am looking to retire for the night I think....May 18 22:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73814060May 18 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 21:07:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You handle it better than most of us would. carry on doing so.May 18 22:27
schestowitzre mono lies about meMay 18 22:28
schestowitzLots of themMay 18 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One blog post from MSMVP and news sites pretend Mono lives? He is just Microsoft's gigolo and life goes on without #Mono http://is.gd/q6esOJMay 18 22:28
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DaemonFCLeave the Bacon, take the cannoli May 18 22:31
DaemonFCB-)May 18 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Creating An !Ubuntu Power User Community http://goo.gl/Rlbm2May 18 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @zoobab #Swpats in the UK, more burden for software developers: http://ur1.ca/47lsk << last year the MSMVP de Icaza smeared @FFIIMay 18 22:33
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schestowitzzoobab: can you autorise for me to use a photo of yours? I need one for future article.May 18 22:33
schestowitzThe only ones I have are from videos (fair use), you don't really put up any CC-licensed photosMay 18 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !android what I want is an app that tells you about you real open networks not those bollocks pseudo open BT fail networks. **** you BT openMay 18 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir Some people like making little model ships in bottles; some like mimicking Microsoft API's on Linux. It is good to have a hobby.May 18 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@rcweir nice little dig there at #mono and given that @bobsutor also does not like the project, why does SL (2nd life) use some? #swpatsMay 18 22:38
xjasonxTwo months ago, the Obama administration asked Congress to make illicit online streaming of copyrighted movies and TV shows a felony. Such a bill has now been introduced by two senators. 'Online streamers can now face up to five years in prison and a fine in cases where: They show 10 or more "public performances" by electronic means in any 180-day period; and the total retail value of those performances tops $2,500 or the cost ofMay 18 22:39
xjasonxouchMay 18 22:39
xjasonxhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/new-bill-upgrades-unauthorized-internet-streaming-to-a-felony.arsMay 18 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mgeist Lessons for Canadian IP reform: "overly rigid & inflexible IP framework can act as a barrier to innovation" http://is.gd/rNR5YzMay 18 22:40
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schestowitzLaws to protect the cartels from the poorMay 18 22:43
schestowitzRather than the oppositeMay 18 22:43
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/72417.htmlMay 18 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Reviews: Natty Narwhal Offers Unity but No Clarity .::. Size~: 62.81 KBMay 18 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] One in fourteen Internet downloads is Windows malware http://is.gd/ZAX6jM #microsoft #windows #software #securityMay 18 22:48
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/70967856333979648May 18 22:50
TechrightsBot-tr@palmerv0r: @schestowitz @rcweir is it a dig at #mono or WINE? Tbh I think it's good to have options, although I'd prefer people targetted QtMay 18 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@pudo #askNeelie very much hope so. Working on it, internally in the EU institutions and for Europe as a whole. see ...May 18 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Fedora e un sistem de operare rapid, stabil și puternic [...] Ești liber să-l folosești [...] http://fedoraproject.org/ro/ #RO #softwareMay 18 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @ploum Will not use Twitter tomorrow, it's the Open Discussion Day: http://ploum.net/post/odd2011-en #opendiscussiondayMay 18 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Anyone want to work on OsmocomBB, a free GPRS stack? http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/osmocombbMay 18 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firefox 4 for Android is Here! http://is.gd/VJQ5RI http://is.gd/7pIiTM #mozilla #firefox #android #mobile #linux #gnu #foss #web #videoMay 18 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: #Sony #PlayStation Network hacked again, user passwords compromised ! http://bit.ly/lMG5iA #securityMay 18 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indie Filmmakers Opt to Distribute Their New #Film "The Tunnel" for Free via #BitTorrent • by Audrey Watters http://ur1.ca/47q0tMay 18 23:05
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MinceRgnMay 18 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @highvoltage PSN logins exploited again, Sony takes pages offline: http://ping.fm/5SgEqMay 18 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Beth Kujawski : Interactive Resumé http://ur1.ca/47q16 "What can I create for you?" >> very nicely doneMay 18 23:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Poor Sony in a way, they bring it up  again, and then more problems.May 18 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] At Microsoft, Linux & FOSS is Like #Zune http://is.gd/cHek75 #Microsoft #failMay 18 23:13
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schestowitzMinceR: nnMay 18 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aldebaran to open source Nao robot http://is.gd/CObnlO for expected behaviour?May 18 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Usage #share of #web #browsers http://is.gd/0FLqg8 #stats #market #ie #microsoft #ie9 #mozilla #firefox #gnu #linuxMay 18 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Harald Welte is looking for volunteers to help with #OsmocomBB, to write a free software GPRS implementation: http://ur1.ca/47q19May 18 23:23
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73818005May 18 23:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 22:11:03 UTC - Identi.ca: At Microsoft, #Linux & #FOSS is Like #Zune  http://is.gd/cHek75May 18 23:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: At Microsoft, Linux/FOSS is Like Zune | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.33 KBMay 18 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night @kevieMay 18 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @acurrie ♺ @dyscultured: #dys134 goes live tonight at 9:30pm ET / 6:30 PT, #dyscultured at irc.zeronode.net or here: http://ur1.ca/3y ...May 18 23:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] About three days ago or something I found out that a web radio station that I really liked #listening to seems to have disappeared!May 18 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] It's time to start asking questions about why the Crown Attorney isn't in jail #FreeByron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPWpudShbQ4May 18 23:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9bS75JOP_QMay 18 23:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fox 'News' advocates #torture http://is.gd/tujGX3 and confuses Osama with Obama http://is.gd/ZJik6CMay 18 23:58
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