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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73820719May 19 00:12
TechrightsBot-tr@Danny (tekk)'s status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 23:02:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz so? just about every conservative in the US supports torture.May 19 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 18/5/2011: Open Virtualization Alliance, Wine 1.3.20 http://is.gd/Fn7dqi !techrightsMay 19 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 18/5/2011: Open Virtualization Alliance, Wine 1.3.20 http://is.gd/Fn7dqi #techrightsMay 19 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have been on identi.ca for a while now and have never been as angry as provoked by a particular person in our community. Playing boy gamesMay 19 00:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: !Unity in #Natty: update http://goo.gl/ZpBPWMay 19 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unity in Natty: update « Fabien Tassin's blog .::. Size~: 37.93 KBMay 19 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Following on from my previous post about Ubuntu for Power Users, there is now a mailing list: http://is.gd/hlhkls #ubuntuMay 19 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Oh !Canada: Byron Sonne is “still quite a ways away from being free”http://ur1.ca/47qy1 !freeByronMay 19 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Byron Sonne is “still quite a ways away from being free” «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 43.71 KBMay 19 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @andyc @joshix CLI FTW.May 19 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Analysis of the Freedom House report on software tools for circumventing Internet censorship https://eff.org/r.58rMay 19 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am off to bed now. I am sorry if I upset most people tonight. It is a day I want to put behind me and only hope others feel the same.May 19 00:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @panko Open Discussion Day #ODD #xmpp #jabberes #jabber bit.ly/khUUDN bit.ly/iVJttO !eol !otj #librecomunicacion #libreeleccion !esde ...May 19 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching bill gates he "believes in the capitalistic system"May 19 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [FACEBOOK] Sunteți de acord cu revenirea la monarhie? http://is.gd/TH7dkI #romania #monarchyMay 19 00:56
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DaemonFChttp://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/04/ballmerslander.jpgMay 19 00:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There is too much to tell you watch bbc hardtalk with bill gates.May 19 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [FACEBOOK] Dacă mâine s-ar organiza referendum, ați vota pentru reinstaurarea Monarhiei în #România? http://is.gd/GNEYuE #romania #monarchyMay 19 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Seriously. watch BBC Hard Talk with Bill Gates.May 19 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IT Majors Create Open #Virtualization Alliance http://is.gd/0uq3ay #open #redhat #hp #ibm #software #intel #suse #bmcMay 19 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IT Majors Create Open Virtualization Alliance | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.44 KBMay 19 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Its okay everyone. All the Anglo Irish problems will be solved by Liz's holiday joint.May 19 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Adobe Flash Player Linux x86_64 Update Coming http://is.gd/DK7xil #flash #web #linux #adobeMay 19 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] jauntMay 19 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Adobe Flash Player Linux x86_64 Update Coming .::. Size~: 18.03 KBMay 19 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Let's Unite To Create A Skype Killer! http://is.gd/CyTNlm #skype #microsoft #voip #foss #linux #softwareMay 19 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Let's Unite To Create A Skype Killer! | Muktware .::. Size~: 34.5 KBMay 19 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Apple planea quitar el anuncio de Tío Pepe de su próxima tienda en la Puerta del Sol ur1.ca/47q0j < +motivos para odiarles !eolMay 19 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Wine 1.3.20 Released http://is.gd/aeVBVy #winehq #linux #microsoft #gnu #softwareMay 19 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 26 down 6 to goMay 19 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @HPLinux: Implementing Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 on HP ProLiant servers http://ow.ly/4WzEt #redhat #HPLinuxMay 19 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wine 1.3.20 Released | Muktware .::. Size~: 33.49 KBMay 19 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Implementing Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 on HP ProLiant servers (Technical White Paper) (White Paper/4AA3-1875ENW.pdf) .::. Size~: 3.75 KBMay 19 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I'd like to publicly ask #Canonical and especially Mark to deeply consider getting rid of the Copyright Assignment" http://is.gd/sgU4TwMay 19 01:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: "#Microsoft admits that one in fourteen downloads are #Windows malware"—What more do you need to know, to shun this crap?May 19 01:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73824071May 19 01:21
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 00:13:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz He must be under pressure. How much?May 19 01:21
schestowitz^ jono May 19 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jonobacon: Following on from my previous post about Ubuntu for Power Users, there is now a mailing list: http://is.gd/hlhkls #ubuntuMay 19 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks central america conference (video, Elsalvador with Assange) http://is.gd/cwOERpMay 19 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu-power-users Info Page .::. Size~: 5.97 KBMay 19 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: El Faro 05/17/11 06:02PM, El Faro 05/17/11 06:02PM ElFaronet on USTREAM. .::. Size~: 35.88 KBMay 19 01:21
schestowitz"@satipera I'd say a lot. Tim @openbytes too spoke to @jonobacon about it in #techrights IRC this evening. He's having difficulties."May 19 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/18/buy-nintendo-3ds-and-sign-your-life-away/ !EOL #sinprivacidad #nintendoMay 19 01:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Buy a Nintendo 3DS and sign your life away | thinq_ .::. Size~: 24.84 KBMay 19 01:28
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73824721May 19 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 00:25:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This is turning into a community wide what on earth is going on here. Canonical will have to answer this problem in the end.May 19 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As the #Natty Narwhal... the Next #Ubuntu Is Coming http://is.gd/Wbs9zj "As far as Shuttleworth's comments...Unity... gotten good reviews"May 19 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: As the Natty Narwhal Debate Continues, the Next Ubuntu Is Coming .::. Size~: 40.31 KBMay 19 01:33
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schestowitzjono: I'm with canonical on this one..May 19 01:34
schestowitzI think MarkS comments might insult some people with genuine grievances thoughMay 19 01:34
schestowitzTim and I spoke on the phone todayMay 19 01:34
schestowitzHe is struggling to like unityMay 19 01:34
schestowitzhe'll move awayMay 19 01:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73824876May 19 01:35
TechrightsBot-tr@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 00:29:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Linden Labs started using #mono mainly because its VM was vastly superior in performance to their home-grown one.May 19 01:35
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73824896May 19 01:36
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 00:29:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I wait patiently for it to come out.May 19 01:36
schestowitzhi, ziggyfishMay 19 01:36
schestowitzLong time..May 19 01:36
ziggyfishlol, yesMay 19 01:37
ziggyfishwith running a business and uni, very little time to do anything.May 19 01:38
schestowitzwhich business if I may ask (or what type)?May 19 01:38
ziggyfishjust a web design/development businessMay 19 01:39
schestowitzniceMay 19 01:40
ziggyfishyes, using PHP as the dev languageMay 19 01:41
schestowitzI remember doing the same when I was 19May 19 01:41
schestowitzziggyfish: any CMS?May 19 01:41
ziggyfishjoomla, but depends on the requirementsMay 19 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Super-slim Linux on a Raspberry Pi http://is.gd/TvnSjT for raising a generation of #Linux expertsMay 19 01:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Super-slim Linux on a Raspberry Pi .::. Size~: 42.27 KBMay 19 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for May 19, 2011 http://lwn.net/Articles/442567/rssMay 19 01:43
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ziggyfishuse zend framework some timesMay 19 01:43
ziggyfishschestowitz: what type of thing did you do?May 19 01:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/71012152680525824May 19 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: RT @schestowitz @wikileaks2 #WikiLeaks: US asked firm to pressure Canada on missile toys http://fb.me/GLJ48Dia // Harper loves the attentionMay 19 01:53
schestowitzHeheMay 19 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: U.S. asked weapons firm to twist Canadian arms on missile defence: diplomatic cables  |  APTN National News .::. Size~: 51.21 KBMay 19 01:53
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schestowitzziggyfish: back then cms was not the popular way to goMay 19 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux on the desktop: #Europe leads http://is.gd/etFPAJ just estimated Web/Advertisements share, not real desktop share.May 19 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux on the desktop: Europe leads - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.68 KBMay 19 01:55
ziggyfishschestowitz: what did you use?May 19 01:57
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schestowitztext editorMay 19 02:03
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73826348May 19 02:03
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 00:54:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I take my hat of to you, few people can know how much crap you have to put up with day to day defending FLOSSMay 19 02:03
schestowitzThat's nice to hearMay 19 02:03
DaemonFChttp://stuff.techwhack.com/11484-canonical-libreoffice/May 19 02:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical considering removing LibreOffice from default CD installer of Ubuntu 11.10 .::. Size~: 28.75 KBMay 19 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The $25 computer that could help change the world http://is.gd/6Wc6d2 #linuxMay 19 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @chromatic I could not disagree more with Mark Shuttleworth: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/442782/c2acc01299c39956/May 19 02:05
DaemonFCMinceR commented once if they needed more room for Mono they'd just get rid of (at that time) OOoMay 19 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A working $25 computer could make a big difference in poor countries, school districts -- Government Computer News .::. Size~: 70.1 KBMay 19 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 169.92 KBMay 19 02:05
DaemonFCI figured he was being flippantMay 19 02:05
DaemonFCbut apparently notMay 19 02:05
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz I took part in the UDS session remotely where they talked about possibly removing LibreOffice from the CDMay 19 02:05
sebsebsebjono were you in that session as well, but actsauly there? ^May 19 02:06
DaemonFCof course, now that they'll need three GUI toolkits just for Unity, the LiveCD will be crampedMay 19 02:06
schestowitzthey thought about it a year ago or moreMay 19 02:06
sebsebsebthey need space for Qt and such I guessMay 19 02:06
sebsebsebthey could put Abiword and Gnumeric on, but well nothing for slideshowsMay 19 02:06
schestowitzactually, it's unity users (many n00bs) who need OOo, as they don't use LaTeX and *Real* text editorsMay 19 02:07
schestowitzMicrosoft told them to use 80s tech to manage infoMay 19 02:07
DaemonFCNotepad.exeMay 19 02:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh I think LaTeX is for real geeks useaulyMay 19 02:08
schestowitzok, I'm out..May 19 02:08
sebsebsebI don't use that for exampleMay 19 02:08
sebsebsebi'll use graphical office suitesMay 19 02:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: mathsMay 19 02:08
DaemonFCI think LibreOffice is pretty huge, but it's not like it's just full of useless crapMay 19 02:08
sebsebsebDaemonFC: indeedMay 19 02:08
DaemonFCthe back and forth argument was the same over MozillaMay 19 02:08
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Notepad.exe one of the best Microsoft programs :)May 19 02:09
DaemonFCI'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find tons of unreferenced code and possibly some unused icons May 19 02:09
DaemonFCit's true of the rest of their softwareMay 19 02:09
DaemonFCthis is the company who released a 3 MB registry cleaner May 19 02:10
sebsebseboh?May 19 02:10
DaemonFCthat also managed to frequently remove keys that broke installed software May 19 02:10
DaemonFCyepMay 19 02:10
DaemonFChttp://www.msversus.org/archive/bloat.htmlMay 19 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Bloatware Debate .::. Size~: 12.8 KBMay 19 02:11
DaemonFCBitmaps May 19 02:11
DaemonFC This was a particularly sorry lot. The main bloat here was a splash screen bitmap weighing in (no RLE compression of course) at over 150KB. Further, Ctl32 static library bitmaps were found, meaning MS RegClean is still linking with the old Ctl32v2 static library which was obsolete five years ago and which automatically adds another 41KB to the image size.May 19 02:11
DaemonFCheheMay 19 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] American bloke from the right talking about healthcare , I shouted at the telly.May 19 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean It's time to start asking questions about why the Crown Attorney isn't in jail #FreeByron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...May 19 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] QFT: "When someone says 'Lightweight' what they mean is 'I don't understand the problems that the alternative solves'" http://is.gd/C93fUsMay 19 02:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've enjoyed my first !Ubuntu hour... thanks @flyingsquirrel ... great hot chocolate at Whole Lotta Gelata (made from GELATO)May 19 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Eyelids, falling asleep. Particularly today my best to those there has been a little falling out. #COOPERATION good for what ails society.May 19 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @toros Fabien Tassin: !Unity in #Natty: update http://goo.gl/ZpBPWMay 19 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @chromatic I could not disagree more with Mark Shuttleworth: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/442782/c2acc01299c39956/May 19 03:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 170.08 KBMay 19 03:51
ziggyfishhas anyone heard of planking?May 19 04:10
DaemonFCsounds naughtyMay 19 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Hey, hot chocolate is good anytime, anywhere. It has that unbeatable ingredient: #chocolate ;DMay 19 04:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Writing - http://bit.ly/mIDNuH #amwriting #MyWANAMay 19 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] To IMF chief : You can fuck Nation,,, but you cannot fuck people ...May 19 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wayne Borean: !Copyright Wars – Starving The Enemy http://ur1.ca/47vds << yes!May 19 05:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] oh @lstench ... having had world class dental hell, I sympathizeMay 19 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Chocolate seems like a good solution. Yes... extra dark chocolate and red bull, save meMay 19 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @ghostler I'm not surprised. Both governments prefer to sacrifice civil rights in the appearance of doing something rather than doing.May 19 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer @AvWuff has compile four of the TV news articles tonight on !FreeByron into one video: http://ur1.ca/47vuc good stuff !cdnpoliMay 19 05:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Byron Sonne FreeByron finally out on bail! CTV Global City G20‬‏ .::. Size~: 104.27 KBMay 19 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Compiler Complaint http://xkcd.com/371/ (what does a segfault feel like)May 19 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @digimer I want to send a special thanks to @q_e_d & @alexhundert for their support of !FreeByron. They really helped to fill the seats!May 19 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] No, that didn't work. The bar I got is not very good at all :\May 19 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @x11r5 The drive home is like being at the end i fear the worst... The hippies have risen... *Dramatic musicMay 19 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is 'stealing' private Facebook photos just like stealing TVs? http://ur1.ca/47w1i << crazy cops and !copyrightMay 19 06:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hello @maloki ,,, :-/ i must be going though...May 19 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverseMay 19 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Zentralabitur FAIL! :DMay 19 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] woah! gotta package !linuxlibre 2.6.39May 19 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke point is that, if the work is derivative, it's not “yours” aloneMay 19 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] GehirntestbildMay 19 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work...May 19 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Good blog post from Robert Ancell on some of the challenges in direction GNOME is facing - http://is.gd/TFBrgB #gnomeMay 19 07:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bob's development blog: Razing the Bazaar .::. Size~: 85.16 KBMay 19 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Great to see the Ubuntu LoCo Council continuing their good work in re-assessing team approval - http://is.gd/fKaod5 #ubuntuMay 19 07:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czajkowski  » Blog Archive   » Re-approvals for O-Cycle rules and overview .::. Size~: 20.47 KBMay 19 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @metal: CAIXA (Brazilian government banking) and another 10 federal agencies have #security flaw http://is.gd/5QHAjS #HTML #Injection #XSSMay 19 07:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stanton Writes!  » Blog Archive   » Sites of the box and another 10 federal agencies have security flaw .::. Size~: 11.18 KBMay 19 07:21
MinceRhttp://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/02/10/fraud_excerptMay 19 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @afiestas @aseigo Active is within our scope for +2 releases :)!May 19 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @frederik Got a list speaking for the first time. #Qt will be accessible on Linux. Soon. Really soon now.May 19 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] inspirational user interaction on irc last night: freeze in plasma-desktop, first time gdb user got backtraces, found a problem in libntrackMay 19 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ScottK from Kubuntu apparently has a patch already, user tried it and it works. need to find Scott online today now :)May 19 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] participation based systems are highly efficient. the challenge is educating our communities how to participate. a lost art for many ...May 19 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see Red Hat listed in top 50 cloud innovators (list is alphabetical btw) - http://gigaom.com/cloud/structure-50/May 19 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Structure 50: The Top 50 Cloud Innovators: Cloud Computing News « .::. Size~: 82.32 KBMay 19 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Good morning all. Today the menu is: class action hearing and Luxembourg preparation. Microsoft makes my life miserable. Why, oh why?May 19 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 169 million downloads on 2011-05-19 06:57 UTCMay 19 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.39-libre sources are now availableMay 19 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Linux kernel 2.6.39 released http://h-online.com/-1245668 What's new in Linux 2.6.39 http://h-online.com/-1242910May 19 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @kernellog2 #Linux #kernel 2.6.39 released http://h-online.com/-1245668 What's new in Linux 2.6.39 http://h-online.com/-1242910 #2639May 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux kernel 2.6.39 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.14 KBMay 19 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's new in Linux 2.6.39 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.8 KBMay 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux kernel 2.6.39 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.14 KBMay 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's new in Linux 2.6.39 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.8 KBMay 19 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @kernellog #Linux #Kernel 2.6.39 freigegeben http://heise.de/-1242469 Die Neuerungen von Linux 2.6.39 http://heise.de/-1242011 #2639May 19 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux-Kernel 2.6.39 freigegeben | heise open .::. Size~: 40.01 KBMay 19 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Die Neuerungen von Linux 2.6.39 | heise open .::. Size~: 51.48 KBMay 19 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] interesting patch on reviewboard that tweaks the default malloc strategy to radically reduce memory allocation: http://ur1.ca/47wntMay 19 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fixing massive memory consumption in KWin using the raster graphicssystem. | Review Request | Review Board .::. Size~: 11.96 KBMay 19 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] busybox does something similar; need to test for performance regressions as a result of lower free space threshold in common usage patternsMay 19 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva And this is where I look at the lawyer to explain whether my patch, looked at in separation, is really a derivative. :-) @fontanaMay 19 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] very interesting blog on planet gnome about the intersection of project scope decisions and community effects: http://ur1.ca/47wouMay 19 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @lxoliva The complete and corresponding source and installation info of the confusion in computer-readable, human-understandable form. :-DMay 19 08:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bob's development blog: Razing the Bazaar .::. Size~: 89.93 KBMay 19 08:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73836882May 19 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 04:20:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Interesting find, a $25 thumb drive size CPU running #Ubuntu just add keyboard and monitor - Wow! http://is.gd/6Wc6d2May 19 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: A working $25 computer could make a big difference in poor countries, school districts -- Government Computer News .::. Size~: 70.11 KBMay 19 08:46
schestowitzMonoboosterfail:May 19 08:47
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tim_smith/statuses/71058336073789441 http://twitter.com/trampstr/statuses/71020406475210752May 19 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr@tim_smith: @verofakto Yup. See http://bit.ly/llHir4 now claiming all he said was they registered with a Bellevue domain registrar.May 19 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: May 18th, 2011 .::. Size~: 29.94 KBMay 19 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr@trampstr: @directhex lol, however your external links to techrights will only increase its google page rank. An thus increase it influence.May 19 08:47
schestowitzexactlyMay 19 08:48
schestowitzthey don't know they are better off ignoringMay 19 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What would Wong Kan Sing's swan song be entitled? #sgpoliticsMay 19 08:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/71001885938692097May 19 08:49
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: @keybuk starting around http://bit.ly/kB3NcO - they start trying to get THE TRUTH from Jono at http://bit.ly/mLhXJmMay 19 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @ikrshnan #Error in !Microsoft !Windows #Calculator. !Facebook - http://j.mp/lHCQkP !Youtube - http://j.mp/j1z8lZ Try it on !GNULinux ...May 19 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Videos Posted by Zurmat.com: Microsoft Calculator Mistakes...! (Habibies) | Facebook .::. Size~: 23.39 KBMay 19 08:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Microsoft Calculator mistakes really [ Try it Now ]‬‏ .::. Size~: 97.38 KBMay 19 08:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/70999561895809024May 19 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr@directhex: @keybuk FYI looks like your 101% entirely serious revelation regarding @xamarin_com was discussed yesterday at length on Boycott Novell IRC.May 19 08:51
schestowitzNow with more insults overnight http://twitter.com/tim_smith/statuses/71026171852226561 http://twitter.com/verofakto/statuses/71055441735585792 mono scientology out in full forceMay 19 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr@tim_smith: @verofakto #boycottboy is now furiously backpeddling, now denying he claimed Xamarin was in Bellevue.May 19 08:52
TechrightsBot-tr@verofakto: .@migueldeicaza @directhex Genius! #boycottboy of #techrights or #techdouche #lulzMay 19 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Un futuro brillante Para El Nuevo Groklaw bajo la dirección de Mark Webbink (Actualizado) http://is.gd/Z628Wt #swpats #groklawMay 19 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Ahora Todo Se Resume a Patentes! http://is.gd/th9Fzd #swpats #microsoftMay 19 09:23
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/71101444673122304May 19 09:25
TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: This kicks ass. Serious ass: RT @schestowitz: The $25 computer that could help change the world http://is.gd/6Wc6d2 #linuxMay 19 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke 'zactly. does Fedora really expect contributors of patches for copyleft projects to consult with a lawyer every time?May 19 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke or does Fedora want to induce these contributors to error and legal liabilities?May 19 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://bit.ly/jH9atYMay 19 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME To Become A Linux Only Project? http://is.gd/0oyizg http://is.gd/Hfsbkv http://is.gd/ed34oj #gnu #linux #desktopMay 19 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mint It Yourself With a Browser-Based Bitcoin Miner - Slashdot .::. Size~: 131.25 KBMay 19 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME To Become A Linux Only Project? .::. Size~: 44.67 KBMay 19 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME to drop support for BSD, Solaris, Unix? .::. Size~: 149.77 KBMay 19 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Transforming GNOME Into A Linux-Only Project? .::. Size~: 17.52 KBMay 19 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New "Pulp" project, by #redhat http://is.gd/wyWOqG http://is.gd/2iMg8E http://is.gd/OIo4czMay 19 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 4 Lightweight, Official Ubuntu Based Alternatives for #Ubuntu 11.04's #Unity 3D http://is.gd/LogAUqMay 19 09:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top 4 Lightweight, Official Ubuntu Based Alternatives for Ubuntu 11.04's Unity 3D | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 52.14 KBMay 19 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As damage control, Canonical makes a #Ubuntu "power users" community, but that already exists: Fedora, Arch, Gentoo, Chakra..May 19 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The thing is, Canonical would compromise anything just to get more clients, dropping PowerPC and Power Users if they are not good businessMay 19 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Scheduled Tasks with at and cron (&gnome-schedule) http://tinyurl.com/63wtptaMay 19 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There was a distribution before which thought it could ignore the hardcore #GNU #Linux users and somehow succeed. It was called Linspire.May 19 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lubuntu Screencast: Scheduled Tasks with at and cron (&gnome-schedule) | lubuntu .::. Size~: 19.19 KBMay 19 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 roadmap: Are we moving in right direction? http://is.gd/1QBQ1j rather than drop LO they should reinstate a classic GNOME optionMay 19 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - http://bit.ly/j8lGWp v thorough exploration & rebuttal (v @danicar)May 19 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 roadmap | Are we moving in right direction? | Ubuntu Manual .::. Size~: 26.94 KBMay 19 09:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 53.82 KBMay 19 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Soon #Ubuntu Will Be Running In Your Car http://is.gd/4bKg5O well, #linux will, the distribution makes little difference, customised GUIsMay 19 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Recognized as Top Support Website http://is.gd/zJoCro #gnu #linux #supportMay 19 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My #Fedora 15 Pre-release experience http://is.gd/H6HOin might benefit greatly from unityMay 19 09:41
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Fedora 15 Pre-release experience « Hedayat’s Blog .::. Size~: 38.1 KBMay 19 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 15 Goes Gold http://is.gd/yHJcxP #fedora #gnu #linuxMay 19 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prix unique du livre numérique : que dit la loi ? - http://bit.ly/j0G0Xa #france misses the point of Internet once moreMay 19 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prix unique du livre numérique : que dit la loi ? - http://bit.ly/j0G0Xa #france misses the point of Internet once more (v @miguelsvieira)May 19 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Audiência vai discutir venda de software para o governo - http://bit.ly/m9TkjE #brazil pretends #freesw doesn't existMay 19 09:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Audiência vai discutir venda de software para o governo - PSL Brasil - Software Livre Brasil .::. Size~: 43.71 KBMay 19 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Ken Thompson http://is.gd/cqLCww "It's hard to adopt it to a project inside of Google because of the learning curve."May 19 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google And #Amazon May Have Just Handed #Apple The Keys To The Cloud Music Kingdom - http://tcrn.ch/iiKX6n my enemy's enemy etcMay 19 09:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google And Amazon May Have Just Handed Apple The Keys To The Cloud Music Kingdom .::. Size~: 56.24 KBMay 19 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #EU and #China adopt harmonised approach to #censorship - http://bit.ly/mDF5QA extraordinaryMay 19 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Byron Sonne leaves courthouse http://is.gd/iFDDSV cc @laurelrusswurmMay 19 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Listening to #FLOSS about #Compiz I was hoping to here about Compize to #Gnome-shell #Fedora will there ever be compiz for #Gnome3May 19 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Catholic Church study blames 1960s permissiveness for rise in sexual abuse - http://bit.ly/mi1nSX yeah, couldn't be church/priests' faultMay 19 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Catholic Church study blames 1960s permissiveness for rise in sexual abuse | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 87.79 KBMay 19 09:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/71135572462284800May 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. DOD releases “Open Technology Development Guide” - http://bit.ly/lUjOvS impressive 73-page guide #opensourceMay 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/5/2011: Fedora 15 Goes Gold, Canonical Creates Ubuntu Power User Community http://is.gd/NHc3Eg !techrightsMay 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 19/5/2011: Fedora 15 Goes Gold, Canonical Creates Ubuntu Power User Community http://is.gd/NHc3Eg #techrightsMay 19 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. DOD releases “Open Technology Development Guide”.  |  Civic Commons .::. Size~: 33.51 KBMay 19 10:00
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TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz How do you like #Fedora as opposed to #Ubuntu? #Redhat was my first distro. Thinking about returning to it.May 19 10:00
schestowitzFedora 14 KDE was quite goodMay 19 10:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/janstedehouder/status/71135909982126080May 19 10:00
TechrightsBot-tr@janstedehouder: @schestowitz But how long will the GNOME project support that classic desktop?May 19 10:00
schestowitzgood pointMay 19 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Does GIC/Temasek have a share in this? http://www.emeritus.com/ #sgpolitics #sgelectionMay 19 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Committee Suggests Tough Rules On Locational #Privacy; May Influence U.S. - http://bit.ly/ijJbKA hardly a surpriseMay 19 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Committee Suggests Tough Rules On Locational Privacy; May Influence U.S.                                                    |  paidContent .::. Size~: 38.88 KBMay 19 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Intel invokes #Linux to calm fears of Windows 8 on #ARM - http://bit.ly/mOrpnE interesting supportMay 19 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel invokes linux to calm fears of windows 8 on arm- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 66.57 KBMay 19 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #EU and #China adopt harmonised approach to #censorship - http://bit.ly/mDF5QA extraordinaryMay 19 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Why #Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - http://bit.ly/j8lGWp v thorough exploration & rebuttal (v @danicar)May 19 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU and China adopt harmonised approach to censorship | EDRI .::. Size~: 13.35 KBMay 19 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Privacy Matters Even if You Have 'Nothing to Hide' - The Chronicle Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 53.82 KBMay 19 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Philip #Rosedale's Latest Project, Coffee & Power, Connects Location-Based Projects to Virtual Currency - http://bit.ly/knjn7s riiightMay 19 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New World Notes: Philip Rosedale's Latest Project, Coffee & Power, Connects Location-Based Projects to Virtual Currency .::. Size~: 61.6 KBMay 19 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Interesting notes on coming #CentOS 6 release http://ur1.ca/47xcw plus speculation around the #microsoft #hyperv move to support CentOS.May 19 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hyper-V shines spotlight on CentOS, ready soon for 6.0 release | ITworld .::. Size~: 128.55 KBMay 19 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] "veteran Linux and open source journalist/analyst" discovers difference between copyleft and permissive license http://ur1.ca/45cek #itworldMay 19 10:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Google can delay Android source code releases | ITworld .::. Size~: 128.19 KBMay 19 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @glynmoody #EU and #China adopt harmonised approach to #censorship - http://bit.ly/mDF5QA extraordinaryMay 19 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Adnan Quaium: !GNOME OS http://goo.gl/oo82hMay 19 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Oneiric release schedule http://goo.gl/ZAwKyMay 19 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wenn der Herr Kaiser genug Verträge vertickt hat, hat er auch "Mehr Vom Leben" wie die Hamburg-Mannheimer so schön sagte http://ur1.ca/47xisMay 19 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Robert Ancell: Razing the Bazaar to build the !GNOME OS cathedral http://goo.gl/RZsYPMay 19 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody #EU and #China adopt harmonised approach to #censorship - http://bit.ly/mDF5QA extraordinaryMay 19 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Confity lets you configure Ubuntu 11.04 !Unity easily http://goo.gl/mhBNiMay 19 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @linuxaria Turpial, microblogging client for !linux #floss #twitter #identi.ca http://is.gd/NrSFJqMay 19 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: » Linuxaria Turpial, microblogging client from South America .::. Size~: 65.27 KBMay 19 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Screw LinkedIn! I don't want to be on fucking LinkedIn! Fucking LinkedIn makes me PUKE.May 19 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @vinzv Aus Versehen gerade auf Twitter geschaut. Huch.May 19 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China verlangt Mitsprache bei IWF-Chefposten - http://bit.ly/k5BFtB it's starting..May 19 11:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Strauss-Kahns Rücktritt: China verlangt Mitsprache bei IWF-Chefposten - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Wirtschaft .::. Size~: 67.13 KBMay 19 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android vs. #iOS - http://bit.ly/mT43fg Android is giving iOS a run for its money in terms of user engagementMay 19 11:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Warning: We May Need To Move On From The Android vs. iOS Debate Soon                                                    |  paidContent .::. Size~: 39.13 KBMay 19 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Inquiry into Peer Review - http://bit.ly/jmXZGV one into lack of #openaccess might be more useful... #peerreviewMay 19 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] MSFT to chop off the head and kill RHEL ecosystem, acc to Brian Proffitt here: http://ur1.ca/47xcwMay 19 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] *wein* *heul* *altfühl* http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/ShowTopicAlbumBackground/a22674/l0/l0/F.html#featuredEntryMay 19 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @sandersch: Oracle: "SWITCH to Oracle Open Office from Microsoft Office 2003 - and SAVE" ? http://is.gd/isdsDu #FAILMay 19 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sex, Justice & the American way: Why Larry Flynt gave ,000 to defend WikiLeaks http://is.gd/TFHYEdMay 19 12:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Hargreaves Review recommendations: impact on cultural and #education sectors - http://bit.ly/lovetb interesting point about contractsMay 19 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tuna defenders to battle poachers — off #Libya - http://on.msnbc.com/lt5FdC brave move #fishing #sustainabilityMay 19 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hook: RT @ploum Taxes and welfare in a #bitcoin world: http://bit.ly/jnCeIS A *must* read, this is excellent.May 19 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why focus on the stars salaries? what about the 1,000's of #BBC execs happily riding the extortion racket gravy train? http://is.gd/6Y6zWtMay 19 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oh I get it, the #BBC execs throw the on-screen household name staff to the mob in the hopes that they forget to carry on to the execsMay 19 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Copyright policy based largely on "lobbynomics," not data http://is.gd/Gpyi0dMay 19 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] We saw a group of ducks (mother and ducklings) on the street. I hope they won't be hit by a car...May 19 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Well Done: CDC Warns Of The Zombie Apocalypse http://is.gd/KZHwcHMay 19 13:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Death Of #iFlow Reader Due To #Apple Changes Shows Why Betting On Closed Platforms Is Risky http://is.gd/bPrBeiMay 19 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] morning !identiverse << battling a headache, so there is nothing particularly good about it >>May 19 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cbc: Tories kill access to information database http://ur1.ca/47yhn !privacy #democracyMay 19 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Experimenting with #Piracy – An Indie Mac Developer’s Perspective - http://bit.ly/kXVXnw very interesting, detailed pieceMay 19 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Police Harass, Threaten To Shoot Man Legally Carrying Gun; Then Charge Him With Disorderly Conduct For Recording Them http://is.gd/VANXZ3May 19 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Google boss: anti-piracy laws would be disaster for free speech http://ur1.ca/47yjn !privacy #democracyMay 19 13:25
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Will_Confirmed:  Windows on ARM will not run legacy software: May 19 13:27
Will_http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2385563,00.aspMay 19 13:27
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Will_Microsoft has promised their Office suite on ARM, but nothing more.May 19 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean WordPress is great for blogs, for anything else you're fighting against what it's designed forMay 19 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @stevenado ♺ @nizarus: !ubuntu 11.10 !Oneiric Release Schedule http://ur1.ca/42lfwMay 19 13:28
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Will_Ok, so explain to me why anyone would chose Windows on ARM, which will NOT have any of the legacy software that keeps Windows on life support these days, over some version of Linux on ARM, in which you have a wealth of free software only a recompile away?May 19 13:29
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MinceRand so it will fail even harder than expected previously :>May 19 13:33
oiaohmReally I guess costs are the factor MinceRMay 19 13:36
oiaohmWindows CE required a development team.May 19 13:37
oiaohmSo did the NT line.May 19 13:37
oiaohmThis way MS can axe one development team.May 19 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @KarlBode Verizon sees no need for caps. Funny how infrastructure investment does that for you. http://ur1.ca/47ymk !stopUBBMay 19 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I joined the !Ubuntu Power Users list: http://goo.gl/isy3d This sounds like a great project!May 19 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] Why do people feel the need to make their own IRC channel on #Freenode? (and name it after themselves) !ircMay 19 13:41
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MinceRoiaohm: it's going to cost them a lot more than that :>May 19 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] And down goes the #flash plugin...May 19 13:45
oiaohmMinceR: What no more CE/WP7 development teams will not be a saving?May 19 13:46
MinceRoiaohm: not having applications is going to make vista look like an easy sellMay 19 13:46
oiaohmNote think the embedded market.May 19 13:47
oiaohmWhy does WP7 have to be .net applications.May 19 13:47
oiaohmThis is so you can swap the base out from under it.May 19 13:47
MinceRbecause it's the only way to outdumb hypeOSMay 19 13:47
oiaohmNoMay 19 13:47
oiaohmThis is a planned playMay 19 13:47
oiaohmThat would have worked well 5 years ago before the iphone existed.May 19 13:47
oiaohmSince andorid and iphone does exist the plan has not worked well.May 19 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The 2.6.39 kernel is out http://lwn.net/Articles/443506/rssMay 19 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dirk Deimeke: Geeky holidays... http://goo.gl/x0fRjMay 19 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Matthias Kirschner : #Democracy requires #freesoftware > http://ur1.ca/47yon < Google Trans from Romanian original: http://ur1.ca/3fpfg !fswMay 19 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Systemd in !GNOME, PackageKit and what GNOME as an OS really means http://goo.gl/3QfwHMay 19 13:53
oiaohmMinceR: You have to remember MS is not a very agile beast.May 19 13:53
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MinceRthey keep reminding me :>May 19 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Rod Stewart's cover of one of my favorite songs "Blue Moon"May 19 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nisshh/@nisshh] I get all excited when i go to configure something now, its a weird feeling.May 19 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rowanthorpe Very funny commercial with Clinton voodoo doll. I winced at the end http://j.mp/k3QJetMay 19 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] TODAY: Free vs Paid Business Models with Nicolas Pujol and Toni Schneider at 11a.m. (ET) http://red.ht/jAMbRY #automatticMay 19 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Banned Commercial - Bill Clinton Voodoo doll very funny‬‏ .::. Size~: 105.61 KBMay 19 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] With all the new shows, I'm planning our switch to sixgun.org as a proper network site. This mean we'll switch !LO over as well eventually.May 19 14:10
MinceRhm, that article gives me an impression that "Windows 8 ARM" will simply be an updated version of winblows phone 7May 19 14:15
MinceRthough maybe they'll allow native ARM code somehow :>May 19 14:15
oiaohmMinceR:  MS is basically doing what apple does.May 19 14:17
oiaohmand Linux does.May 19 14:17
oiaohmOne OS core for everything.May 19 14:17
MinceRexcept their OS core can't do it :>May 19 14:17
MinceRnever couldMay 19 14:17
MinceRLinux was written by people who know what they're doing; crApple ripped other people off once they realized they can't code their way out of a wet paper bagMay 19 14:18
MinceRm$ keeps forcing their own crap despite failuresMay 19 14:18
oiaohmNT is a pritty good design really.May 19 14:23
oiaohmOther than the mess MS has made of it.May 19 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Just ordered the foot switch I've put off ordering since last summer for my Fender amp. Wonder if I can blow the neighbours windows out...May 19 14:25
MinceRwe've discussed that alreadyMay 19 14:25
MinceRthey've made a mess of it right from the start :>May 19 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubunchu: manga about Ubuntu Linux http://lwn.net/Articles/443704/rssMay 19 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fauno: new #parabola installation media released! get them! !gnulinuxlibre https://parabolagnulinux.orgMay 19 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World #Copyright Summit: 7 Billion Elephants - http://bit.ly/aLzdX7 everyone important will be there - but not you and me #thepublicMay 19 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World #Copyright Summit: 7 Billion Elephants - http://bit.ly/l5JCXM everyone important will be there - but not you and me #thepublicMay 19 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I must be feeling somewhat better to be griping so much. Wish the nausea would go away though. More #coffeeMay 19 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody World #Copyright Summit: 7 Billion Elephants - http://bit.ly/l5JCXM everyone important will be there - but not you and me ...May 19 14:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: World #Copyright Summit: 7 Billion Elephants - http://bit.ly/aLzdX7 everyone important will be there - but not you and meMay 19 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fake security software catches out #Apple owners http://is.gd/7lpyB8May 19 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva What's a realistic scenario where a problem would exist (note that if it existed, same problem would occur w/ most CLAs IIUYC)May 19 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if #Wikileaks will publish details of "reputable" security companies secretly funding malware on non-Windows platforms to expandMay 19 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if your customer base is limited to one platform, why not ensure the need for your products explodes to others, it makes sense for youMay 19 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hilarious: The last gasp of Osama bin Laden http://alturl.com/g9zetMay 19 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A nightmare scenario for higher education - http://bit.ly/lozA3B utterly clueless - shame on #oup, #cup for even suggesting it #copyrightMay 19 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Prostitute-filled sex party was reward for German insurance salesmen http://is.gd/XoALddMay 19 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] A stupid rule that needs to go - http://ur1.ca/47z9k !MUFC !footballMay 19 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @glynmoody A nightmare scenario for higher education - http://ur1.ca/47z9r Shame on #oup, #cup for even suggesting it !copyrightMay 19 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Your Phone Might Be a Knockoff, But Should You Care? - http://bit.ly/kMIjhr good analysis of the piratical future (v @xpectro) #innovationMay 19 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @thistleweb Will !Wikileaks pub deets of "reputable" security companies secretly funding malware on non-Windows platforms? /cc @wikileaksMay 19 15:06
oiaohmhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/us-summit-orange-apple-idUSTRE74G4WY20110517  HmmMay 19 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apps that look good but crash constantly on the iPad: The Weather channel App, the AOL IM appMay 19 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke If @lxoliva arguing you can't permissively license contributions to !GPL project, @bkuhn & I & colleagues @ !SFLC addressed in 2007May 19 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft to expand AppFabric toolset (Network World): http://bit.ly/imok9CMay 19 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon Now Selling More Kindle Books Than All Print Books - http://bit.ly/j7cYGx really? I mean, really??May 19 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FOSDEM and Embedded Linux Conference videos posted http://lwn.net/Articles/443717/rssMay 19 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Starting in 30 minutes: Free vs Paid Business Models with Nicolas Pujol and Toni Schneider at 11a.m. (ET) http://red.ht/jAMbRYMay 19 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon.com Now Selling More Kindle Books Than Print Books - http://bit.ly/iCHDoS press release with full details (v @pranesh_prakash)May 19 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Red Hat releases RHEL 6.1 http://lwn.net/Articles/443721/rssMay 19 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Bizarre Cathedral - 98 http://goo.gl/4wgoRMay 19 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "The rise and fall of CentOS" - http://ur1.ca/454jd - also read the comments.May 19 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: PPAs and distributions upgrades http://goo.gl/DXpQd !ppaMay 19 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon's ebook numbers probably boosted by free #pd #projectgutenberg books - http://amzn.to/ieg9QN (thanks to @PPUKScuzz for noting)May 19 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Clarification on #Android, its (Lack of) Copyleft-ness, and #GPL Enforcement - http://bit.ly/mD7ofB important points (v @sjvn @rikkikite)May 19 15:53
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oiaohmhttp://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-causes-religious-reaction-in-brains-of-fans-say-neuroscientists/  HmmmMay 19 15:54
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MinceR:>May 19 15:55
MinceRsurprise surprise :>May 19 15:55
oiaohmI wounder what the MS brain scan would say.May 19 15:55
MinceRi strongly suspect it would be the sameMay 19 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @winjer no [#amazon] explicitly exclude free ebooks from their counts - read the release >>true - I missed thatMay 19 15:56
oiaohmMinceR: Remember scans show the difference between love and hate.May 19 15:57
oiaohmMinceR: Apple has worshiped.  MS might be the exact other way.May 19 15:58
MinceR:>May 19 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mapping Digital #Media: #Romania - http://bit.ly/ivbtzD "Digital licensing should be open and transparent"May 19 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning folks, hows things?May 19 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay! Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.1 released today. - http://ur1.ca/47zsbMay 19 16:01
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koolhead17hi allMay 19 16:05
MinceRhayMay 19 16:07
koolhead17MinceR: howdy?May 19 16:08
MinceRworkMay 19 16:09
*koolhead17 just reached homeMay 19 16:09
schestowitz what do only fools and horses do?May 19 16:09
schestowitzkoolhead17: how arr you, my friend?May 19 16:09
koolhead17hey schestowitz jono May 19 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Juts created a nice new Web site, will announce it shortly when it's all done.May 19 16:10
koolhead17schestowitz am awesome!! :)May 19 16:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/CajunTechie/statuses/71138174029660160May 19 16:11
TechrightsBot-tr@CajunTechie: @schestowitz Cool! I have the iso and am ready to install this weekend. KDE4?May 19 16:11
schestowitz4.6?May 19 16:11
koolhead17whats linkedin news all about?May 19 16:12
koolhead17is MSFT buyin itMay 19 16:12
schestowitzdunnoMay 19 16:13
schestowitzDid anyone say so?May 19 16:13
schestowitzIf they buy it, let them waste moneyMay 19 16:13
schestowitzIt's of no value reallyMay 19 16:13
schestowitzMicrosoft is dying as a tech companyMay 19 16:13
schestowitzLike Yahoo! 5-8 years agoMay 19 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Why give a product away? Free vs Paid Business Models with Nicolas Pujol and Toni Schneide #oywfMay 19 16:13
schestowitzIt's just trying to buy its way into relevanceMay 19 16:13
schestowitz!google linkin microsoftMay 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rock Band Weekly: Linkin Park six track pack | Joystiq | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/07/rock-band-weekly-linkin-park-six-track-pack/May 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - End Of Statement Expected (Linkin MS Access to dot net 3.5 VB ... | http://www.daniweb.com/web-development/aspnet/threads/326417May 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Nuevo PresentacióN De Microsoft Power Point.Ppt Linkin Park | http://www.slideshare.net/jys07/nuevo-presentacin-de-microsoft-power-pointppt-linkin-park-presentationMay 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Six Pack Of Fan Favorites From Linkin Park Head To Rock Band Next ... | http://www.rockband.com/blog/six-pack-of-fan-favorites-from-linkin-park-head-to-rock-band-next-weekMay 19 16:13
schestowitz!google linkedin microsoftMay 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Microsoft | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/company/microsoftMay 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft Jobs | LinkedIn | http://www.linkedin.com/jobs/c-MicrosoftMay 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Your Professional Network within Microsoft Outlook - The LinkedIn Blog | http://blog.linkedin.com/2010/02/17/linkedin-microsoft-outlook/May 19 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Microsoft Outlook To Become More LinkedIn | http://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/microsoft-outlook-to-become-even-more-linkedin/May 19 16:13
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/news?hl=&q=linkedin+microsoft&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8May 19 16:14
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schestowitzNothing suggests that Microsoft will buy itMay 19 16:14
oiaohmMS at this stage attempting to buy anything is not off the cards.May 19 16:15
koolhead17oiaohm: hmmMay 19 16:15
oiaohmSince historically this is how MS has attempted to grow market share.May 19 16:15
koolhead17donno. i wanted to know what happened to them, share prices gone high or sumthing?May 19 16:16
koolhead17http://on.wsj.comMay 19 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Congrats to all the winners of the European Inventor Awards today! http://bit.ly/k0dU6xMay 19 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @glynmoody Clarification on #Android, its (Lack of) Copyleft-ness, and #GPL Enforcement - http://bit.ly/mD7ofB important points (v @s ...May 19 16:18
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oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/microsoft-slams-intels-loose-lips-windows-8-talk/12868May 19 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Many times people miss the fact that when a free product arrives it flies under the radar @NicPujol #oywfMay 19 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Everything you know about writing is wrong, everything you know about writing is right… http://bit.ly/lNQ4RP #amwriting #MyWANAMay 19 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Warning. Time waster ahead. Angrybirds on HTML5 for chrome - http://chrome.angrybirds.com/May 19 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Worse than China? Government wants to block sites and censor Internet search results. More here: http://t.co/td0hqsk via @demandprogressMay 19 16:31
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oiaohmhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=89202  This kind of stuff is risky.May 19 16:32
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oiaohmPeople don't think.May 19 16:32
oiaohmIf anycompany controls you email system.May 19 16:32
oiaohmThey can snoop on any business  countract you are undertaking.May 19 16:32
koolhead17oiaohm: yes sure :)May 19 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] 2/3s of S$1.2Bi of govt IT spend went to local SG companies. How much of that went to prop licences & hence outside SG? http://ur1.ca/4801oMay 19 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Update: #Mozilla Preps For Firefox 5 Beta Launch Day http://is.gd/9AvAtb "May 17 was widely believed... Firefox 5 Beta." #firefoxMay 19 16:40
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MinceRhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/302139/news/ps3-firmware-361-is-overheating-old-units-rockstar/May 19 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] I *knew* it: "Apple Causes Religious Reaction In Brains of Fans" (/.) http://ur1.ca/4801kMay 19 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva perhaps the combination is a derivative but the work itself is not or at least parts of it is not?May 19 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell Releases Chromium OS for the Mini 10v http://is.gd/IOAXhG #linux #dell #googleMay 19 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Watching dpm doing his Ubuntu Translations Videocast - join at http://is.gd/LZGO66 #ubuntuMay 19 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle frees JRockit JVM (free as in beer, not as in speech) (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/l3NmNoMay 19 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HTML5 in Drupal 8 http://is.gd/X7RpK3 #drupal folks are awesome. #html #standard #gplMay 19 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @schestowitz Dell Releases Chromium OS for the Mini 10v http://is.gd/IOAXhG #linux #dell #googleMay 19 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz The !GNU #GPL and the American Dream http://is.gd/mgAqst freedom is a tenet, no?May 19 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Software Is Now a Norm in Businesses http://is.gd/YByD9H Apache, Linux, WordPress, Firefox come to mind...May 19 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Today is exactly one year since #DAE launched. Progress to be discussed at #daa11euMay 19 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vryka EC 486 Ilesias thinks he's in BIG trouble. http://bit.ly/8Z0qUq #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #scifiMay 19 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] MeeGo 1.2 released http://lwn.net/Articles/443755/rssMay 19 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @linuxchiq And now our shared drives are all down. Guess where all my work is because IT says it's "Safer" LMAOMay 19 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110519 #sip_and_clickMay 19 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana say A posts a patch for GPLed P, patch being derivative of P, and Fedora uses part of patch in X11-licensed QMay 19 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Recap: Free vs Paid Business Models with Nicolas Pujol and Toni Schneider http://red.ht/jAMbRYMay 19 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Now unsure whether Bailey B&L was treated as for-profit (for tax purposes? other?) at the time of fictional events. Probably unimportant :)May 19 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana author of P sues A and Fedora for copyright infringement. what happens next?May 19 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva A can put original work under !GPL compatible license; if patch includes preexisting GPL'd work, can't be used in permissive workMay 19 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Some folks set up #ubuntu-power-users on freenode IRC as part of the new community - see http://is.gd/uCeUAY for more #ubuntuMay 19 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana exactly, but Fedora could assume the CA license applies, then blame the contributor when the lawsuit comesMay 19 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva In reality, author wouldn't sue. Would be fixed or author would consent to use. But, yes, in theory could be !GPL violation.May 19 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana CA places the burden of reporting derivatives and indicating copyleft on the contributor, maybe even shifting liabilityMay 19 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana which is why I said at first that nobody should sign such an agreement, it's too dangerous and error proneMay 19 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva No, because the MIT license will cover only the *original* material in the patch. #Fedora still bound by !GPL on remainder.May 19 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google #Chrome 13.0 Drops Support for #Ubuntu 8.04 LTS http://is.gd/BtUiJe that'sm why we need #mozillaMay 19 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva You may be misunderstanding a main purpose of agreement: prevent contributor from saying later can't use original under MITMay 19 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: World #Copyright Summit: 7 Billion Elephants - http://bit.ly/l5JCXM everyone important will be there - but not #thepublicMay 19 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Are you sure you've read the actual text? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Fedora_Project_Contributor_AgreementMay 19 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana we've already determined that original per the CA may be © derivative the other day, haven't we?May 19 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I don't think so, but it does place responsibility on contributor to decide whether comfortable with default licensing policyMay 19 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana besides, whether or not it's derivative isn't obvious, and even a lawyer may be deemed wrong by a courtMay 19 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva But no problem if original is MIT licensed unless you are calling into question 20+ years of !FSF license compatibility doctrineMay 19 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana which, in the case at hand, happens to be precisely true: derivative original is subject to GPL conditions!May 19 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana it sure is convenient for Fedora, but it may create a big problem for the contributor, thus my concernMay 19 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva This is an issue that runs throughout copyright system, particularly !fs Can't have absolute certainty.May 19 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana it would be so much nicer if there was no default, or the default was the same as if the patch had been submitted upstreamMay 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Reason to Love #Linux http://is.gd/tn4yG9 people love afforable boxesMay 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana no, I haven't read it, I based my concerns on what was posted hereMay 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Even if true, if under #GPL compatible license why problem? You disagree w/ community understanding of GPL compatibility?May 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Ah, I think you should refrain from further criticism of agreement until you actually read it. :-)May 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva See also !GPLv3 section 7.May 19 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana done. it doesn't seem to address at all the problem I describedMay 19 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana no, I'm just reading on GPL's requirements for derivative worksMay 19 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I don't think you have identified a problem. See #GPLv3 section 7.May 19 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source #WCM needs more than geek appeal to succeed in the enterprise http://is.gd/4v7KAy ah, "those pesky geeks" *sigh* #fudMay 19 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva #GPLv3 does not mention derivative works.May 19 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana got a pointer to this? maybe *this* could ease my concernsMay 19 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana though if one could license *any* *derivative* of GPL work under a permissive license, copyleft wouldn't work at allMay 19 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] '"Linux" needs name change, better marketing, listen to the suits, comply with bad laws, freedom is bad, FSF radical..." < heard it beforeMay 19 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aondo/@aondo] ♺ @schestowitz: Another Reason to Love #Linux http://is.gd/tn4yG9 people love afforable boxesMay 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free software appeals for change, for reform, social justice. It doesn't beg to be changed and 'reformed' (a la "open source", "cloud").May 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Gov't Mule will never stop being awesome.May 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2007/gpl-non-gpl-collaboration.htmlMay 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux enables many people to own a computer, Google allows many people to own a user account. Linux=OLPC, Google=One Account Per Child.May 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva That is correct. For guidance, again, read #GPLv3 section 7. :-)May 19 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not enough is being said against schools and colleges who essentially sell their students to Google or Microsoft. "it's free," they say.May 19 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When slavery is free... and slaves are free.. you can pick them up at no cost. How quickly he word "free" lost its connotation.May 19 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Copyright policy based largely on "lobbynomics," not data http://is.gd/7qN9kh "our poor artists!" Gotta find more sob stories for lobbying.May 19 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to figure out how to use LMMS...May 19 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva See in particular last paragraph of section 3.2.May 19 17:55
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/73875942May 19 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana oh, I remember having read that before, it's not really relevant to the point at hand AFAICTMay 19 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva it's at least directly analogous, even though it was written to address a somewhat different fact scenarioMay 19 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Again, true in your example Fedora can't use patch P (w/ preexisting GPL code) in X11-licensed project (w/o GPLing that project)May 19 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bugabundo LOL o @zon_apoio passou me a seguir. deixa me aproveitar. Oh ZON posso só ter o vosso pacote de ZONIRIS para NET? (n quero TV)May 19 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Building Appliances for the Cloud with Fedora 15 http://ur1.ca/480raMay 19 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is Living and Dying in #x86 Land http://is.gd/M6VgYi #intel #amd #arm #linux #android #swpats #vista8May 19 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft is Living and Dying in x86 Land http://is.gd/M6VgYi #hardware #debianMay 19 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana right, so it takes one more party to get a lawsuit: Fedora adds derived patch for GPLed P and adds to MIT/X11 QMay 19 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana then downstream B redistributes patched Q as non-Free, and P (with @bkuhn's help :-) decides to enforce the GPLMay 19 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana who'll ultimately be in trouble? B, who trusted Fedora's X11/MIT lic; Fedora, for relying on CA, or A, for signing error-prone CA?May 19 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firms With Microsoft Ties Discourage Use of the #GPL Licence http://is.gd/qM6dEs #openlogic #bsd #apache #protecodeMay 19 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Spread the word about EFF's online civil liberties work, and "give a buck" about the Internet! #giveabuck https://eff.org/r.35sMay 19 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Firms With Microsoft Ties Discourage Use of the GPL Licence http://is.gd/qM6dEs #fud !gnuMay 19 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 170 million downloads on 2011-05-19 17:52 UTCMay 19 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Still don't understand.MIT/X11 license doesn't cover preexisting parts. #FPCA is quite clear on this. BTW no signature requirement.May 19 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Under your proposed alternative there would also be a !GPL violation (because patch would likely fail to comply w/ GPL formalities)May 19 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wow...been hit with anti-Goblin feeling from the Wintrolls in comp.os ...... must be doing something right...May 19 19:10
sebsebseb_Goblin: nearly replied to your dents about Unity yesterday even though I knew you  had gone to bed or  whateverMay 19 19:16
sebsebseb_Goblin: anywayMay 19 19:16
sebsebsebwhy does your wife like Unity so much?May 19 19:16
sebsebsebalso well it's designed at people like her, so she's meant to reallyMay 19 19:17
_GoblinI think its because its functional, obvious and quickMay 19 19:17
sebsebsebit's nothing that speical at all for 11.04 from what I have seen, it just makes the Gnome 2 patches on top right into an alternative interfaceMay 19 19:17
sebsebsebandMay 19 19:17
sebsebsebputs a dock down the left hand side of the screen basicalely, and the global menu with the window buttons in the panelMay 19 19:17
_Goblinits personal choice....theres one or two things that I don't like......but overall its actually a good progression (IMHO)May 19 19:18
sebsebsebin fact I would rather use Unity Ubuntu 10.10 on a desktop with Ubuntu and Lubuntu, because of how  that was like, when I tried it before :)May 19 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x1101 @bkuhn what? you think a hackers right to talk about a movie, and its ramifications of its social concepts not important enoug ...May 19 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the longer I work in this sector the better I understand: cultural issues do not exist. it is not incompatibility but misunderstandingMay 19 19:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: one thing you don't like which is?May 19 19:18
_GoblinI don't like how the focused apps pull down menu goes into the taskbar at the topMay 19 19:19
sebsebsebfocused apps menu?May 19 19:19
sebsebsebalso it's set up for newbies with the recommendations and suchMay 19 19:19
_Goblinno what I mean is this....May 19 19:19
sebsebsebUnity is training wheelsMay 19 19:19
sebsebseblike on a bikeMay 19 19:19
sebsebsebif you see what I meanMay 19 19:19
_Goblinimagine you have a an app running in a small window....its pull down menu is missed and replaced in the taskbar at the top of the screen.May 19 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] localisation testing is not so much different from functional testing; only your scope and focus is differentMay 19 19:20
_Goblin*missingMay 19 19:20
sebsebsebyep the global menuMay 19 19:20
_GoblinyepMay 19 19:20
sebsebsebthat's the global menu, when it putts the menu in the panel insteadMay 19 19:20
_Goblinand that causes excess mouse movement....May 19 19:20
_Goblinthats what I don't likeMay 19 19:20
_Goblinalso the "wobble" alert of the sidebar.....May 19 19:21
_Goblinits so fast...blink and you'll miss it.May 19 19:21
sebsebsebI didn't like that much either back with the 10.10 Unity on desktop, but then got to  it a bit, and then when I   try out the 11.04 Unity I already knew to expect that, and not a big deal reallyMay 19 19:21
sebsebseb,but yeah that can take time getting used toMay 19 19:21
sebsebsebespesaily also when the buttons are on the left in an odd orderMay 19 19:21
_Goblinso for example when you ping me in IRC, before I would have a flashing icon in my task bar that stayed until I acknowledged it, with Unity, it merely wobbles the IRC icon for a second.May 19 19:21
sebsebsebuhmm not quiteMay 19 19:22
sebsebsebwhen I high light you on IRCMay 19 19:22
sebsebsebwith Ubuntu Classic Desktop and Unity, the envelope on the top rightMay 19 19:22
sebsebsebis meant to change colourMay 19 19:22
sebsebsebto greenMay 19 19:22
_GoblinTheres no IRC icon present in the taskbar in 11.04 when X-chat is runningMay 19 19:22
sebsebsebwell the high lighted envelope works iwth Konversation :)May 19 19:23
sebsebseband Xhcat I call noob chat as a joke, since the amount of Ubuntu newbies and so on that use it :DMay 19 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] if you are ever in !beijing, visit take5 for European food. walking distance from Silk Market. talk5beijing.comMay 19 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me had #dropshot and herring. #china #beijingMay 19 19:23
_GoblinUnless you use IRSSI, you can call them all newb clients.May 19 19:23
_Goblinor BITCHXMay 19 19:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: well yeah that's true reallyMay 19 19:23
sebsebseb,but 10.10 version on desktop was realy nice, because it would keepMay 19 19:24
sebsebsebwell I think it left the panels alone pretty much for Ubuntu as well, but for Lubuntu definetlyMay 19 19:24
sebsebsebso I would have Unity,  down the left and the top, but also Lubuntu's panel at the bottom, how great really :) ,but yeah 10.10May 19 19:24
sebsebsebfor 11.04 things don't go like that when it comes to Unity on a desktopMay 19 19:24
sebsebseband the Unity in 11.04  and 10.10, it's like the old Gnome Shell's, they go on top of  Gnome 2May 19 19:25
sebsebsebwhich I guess is partly why they aren't that customisable at the moment,  and instead the top bar the icons on it, well can change the Gnome 2 theme to change how that looks,  but that's about all that can be done for customisation, except for  some changes in  Compiz Fusion Settings ManagerMay 19 19:26
sebsebseband then with Unity people are meant to learn it's keyboard shortcuts really, but I don't most users will be doing that any time soon some howMay 19 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @rahulsundaram "I think a !Fedora ambassador has a much better chance of getting hit by a comet while on a date with Angelina Jolie" ...May 19 19:26
sebsebseb_Goblin: ,but that's user stuff ^  how about soem  proper technical  reasons why people don't like Unity, since going by your dents, you were wonderingMay 19 19:27
sebsebseb_Goblin:  still here by the way?May 19 19:27
sebsebseboh yeah and remember it's V  this evening the last two episodes :)May 19 19:27
sebsebsebabout an hour and a half to go now :DMay 19 19:28
sebsebsebjust overMay 19 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Someone should publish collection of aphorisms of @spotMay 19 19:28
sebsebseblooking above, the keyboard shortcut bit didn't quite make sense, I don't think most users will be learning the keyboard shortcuts anytime soon for UnityMay 19 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #AttachMSFT Still in Control of #SUSE , Even After #Novell Takeover and Split http://is.gd/4ignI6 primed for sale?May 19 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Attachmate Still in Control of SUSE , Even After Novell Takeover and Split http://is.gd/4ignI6 #opensuse #gnu #linux #mono #trojarinMay 19 19:31
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: hmm was just going to have  some fun here, and explain  to _Goblin about technical reasons why people don't like Unity, but he seems to have disappeaed on meMay 19 19:33
DaemonFChe'll attack youMay 19 19:34
DaemonFCthen bring up your associations from the 1990sMay 19 19:34
DaemonFCand call you a WintrollMay 19 19:34
sebsebsebDaemonFC: hmm?May 19 19:34
DaemonFCdon't bother unless you're just trying to get a laugh from himMay 19 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/443777/rssMay 19 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rahulsundaram You are welcome, Lennart http://bit.ly/kCFu1E #systemd is the default init system for !Fedora 15.May 19 19:35
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DaemonFCoh, the whole "ZOMG! YOU WERE AN MVP in the late 90s!!!"May 19 19:35
DaemonFC"ZOMG SHILL!!!1111one"May 19 19:35
DaemonFCit's ironic that Freedom by fiat is the predominate mindset in the "free software movement"May 19 19:37
DaemonFCIt's like Ubuntu's unilateral "We don't give a damn about freedom at all", just on the other end of the extremeMay 19 19:37
DaemonFCjust shipping a distribution with no nonfree software isn't enoughMay 19 19:38
DaemonFCwalling off the nonfree components, disabling access to them by default, and warning the user that you can't support it makes your whole project not free, per the FSFMay 19 19:38
DaemonFCthe page where Fedora links to Google Chrome would make all of Fedora not free, even if there were no other outstanding issues, even though they warn it isn't free and they don't recommend itMay 19 19:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well yeah  I guess, Ubuntu is far from being a distibution tha the FSF is happy withMay 19 19:39
DaemonFCthat's a little over the topMay 19 19:39
sebsebsebaltough Debian isn't recognised as a free software only distro by them eitherMay 19 19:40
DaemonFCUbuntu ships a lot of nonfree and patented software by default, no warning that it can't be supported, nothing but "That's a feature"May 19 19:40
DaemonFCit's kind of a shame that their Linspire-ish attitude dominates while the FSF spends all its energy FUDding better distributions that aim to be free but aren't for actual practical reasonsMay 19 19:41
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: _Goblin  yeah and they try to lock people into their copyright assignended Unity interfaces even these days, and hope people contribute code and give all their rights to that code to Canonical, and all thatMay 19 19:41
sebsebsebok this isn't quite true, ^ but you know what I mean I guess May 19 19:42
DaemonFCI also noticed that The Unarchiver, which is the "free" solution for unpacking RAR v3 doesn't even compile with GCC at allMay 19 19:42
DaemonFCand there's no precompiled packagesMay 19 19:42
DaemonFCit's written in Objective-C and advertised for Windows and OS X usersMay 19 19:43
DaemonFCthey have precompiled binaries for those systemsMay 19 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana remember: derivative doesn't imply preexisting; original (per CA) doesn't imply non-derivativeMay 19 19:43
DaemonFChaving source doesn't help when there's no actual instructions for what to compile it with or howMay 19 19:43
DaemonFCand to add insult, Windows and OS X users could download and use it as-isMay 19 19:44
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/71122279110672384May 19 19:44
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Developers ask Apple for help against patent troll via bug reports http://t.co/wTZfk0F via @arstechnicaMay 19 19:44
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DaemonFCit's probably only meant to compile with Apple's tools, I wonder if someone will fix thatMay 19 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana you mean e.g. distributing the GPL-derivative patch without a copy of the GPL?May 19 19:45
DaemonFCRAR is a real problem May 19 19:45
sebsebsebRAR  sucksMay 19 19:45
sebsebsebhorrible formatMay 19 19:45
sebsebsebpropritary formatMay 19 19:45
DaemonFCmost people just click through the nag screen on the Windows proprietary WinRAR and make more of the damned things (or crack it)May 19 19:47
DaemonFCas long as it's easy to make them, people willMay 19 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Yes, clearly a violation of a strict reading of the #GPL which you seem to insist on. Other formalities probably also not observed.May 19 19:48
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Maybe I should unsubscribe from the !Ubuntu group on Identica, then  I woudn't be spammed with so much Ubuntu junk on there :DMay 19 19:49
sebsebseband when I go through my time line looking at old dents, it would be so much easier to find more relivent  dents hmm. http://identi.ca/sebsebseb/allMay 19 19:49
DaemonFCheh, you should subscribe to Planet Mono, err, I mean Planet Miguel, no I mean Planet GNOMEMay 19 19:49
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DaemonFC:)May 19 19:49
sebsebsebonly thing is I want to send to that group sometimes, and that means I have to be subscribed to it, hmmMay 19 19:49
sebsebsebso yeah i'll stay in itMay 19 19:50
DaemonFCZOMG Mono on Crapple Hype Devices!!!! (appears on Planet GNOME, someone please smack him)May 19 19:50
DaemonFCMono is actually a superset of the official .NET, from a technical perspective, it is better than Microsoft .NETMay 19 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva True in general, but it is customary !fs law that you can permissively license original portions of a modification of #GPL workMay 19 19:51
DaemonFCMicrosoft should figure out how to kill it off, I wouldMay 19 19:51
DaemonFCnot fun having a clone that's better than your originalMay 19 19:52
DaemonFCIcaza was showing benchmarks of the latest .NET vs Mono 2, and Mono was kicking .NET's ass. Why would Microsoft tolerate this?May 19 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just composed an 8bit-style jingle for !Creepers.May 19 19:53
MinceRbecause they (think they) own the patents on it :>May 19 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] introducing a layer of indirection only works for software development, not managementMay 19 19:55
schestowitz[19:45] <sebsebseb> RAR  sucksMay 19 19:55
schestowitz+1May 19 19:55
schestowitzI hate it when people send me rar files and I need to download some untrusted binary. They already have free compression that can use.May 19 19:55
schestowitzThe FSF wants a free unrar implementation urgentlyMay 19 19:56
schestowitz[19:50] <DaemonFC> ZOMG Mono on Crapple Hype Devices!!!! (appears on Planet GNOME, someone please smack him)May 19 19:56
schestowitzURL?May 19 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana 'cept posting GPL-derivative patches is well-accepted practice, whereas dist'ing GPLed code under X11 then non-Free isn'tMay 19 19:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, Everything he posts to his blog is still mirrored on Planet GNOMEMay 19 19:56
DaemonFCread through it and it won't take you long to find posts like thatMay 19 19:57
schestowitzwell, he's prominent in gnomeMay 19 19:57
schestowitzcan't change thatMay 19 19:57
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz  hmm http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/18/creating-an-ubuntu-power-user-community/May 19 19:59
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DaemonFChttp://static.arstechnica.com/malwaremac/MacDefender_screen.pngMay 19 19:59
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DaemonFCYOUR MAC IS UNDER ATTACK BY WINDOWS FILE FORMATS!!!!! ZOMG!!! PAY US!!!!May 19 19:59
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz http://identi.ca/notice/73877665May 19 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr@Jono Bacon (jonobacon)'s status on Thursday, 19-May-11 16:13:53 UTC - Identi.ca: Some folks set up #ubuntu-power-users on freenode IRC as part of the new community - see http://is.gd/uCeUAY for more #ubuntuMay 19 20:00
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz Why to stop people  from going to better distro's?May 19 20:00
MinceRnow with an innovative GUI that makes best use of your screen space by overlaying lines of text over each otherMay 19 20:00
sebsebsebMinceR: see above these ilnksMay 19 20:00
DaemonFCEXE, VBS, CHM, SYS, UCE?May 19 20:00
DaemonFCthere's a header file in there? How is that dangerous?May 19 20:00
sebsebsebpower users community uhmmMay 19 20:00
sebsebsebin a way this is kind of funny maybe, I mean it used to be Ubuntu for Human beingsMay 19 20:01
sebsebsebnow as people  basically say on the web a lot now, it's Ubuntu for Mac usersMay 19 20:01
MinceR:>May 19 20:01
sebsebsebcome on other distro's let's give them some nice proper competition :)May 19 20:01
MinceRUbuntu: Linux for subhuman beings?May 19 20:01
sebsebsebcompetition = inovoationMay 19 20:01
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MinceRthey already doMay 19 20:01
sebsebsebno they don'tMay 19 20:01
MinceRone of them does it so well, ubuntu is built on it :>May 19 20:01
sebsebsebor Ubuntu woudn't be number one on the deskto simple as thatMay 19 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @algotruneman The support from !kde users when I have a question is fantasticMay 19 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I don't know about it being customary. if asked, I'd warn against it, unless original portion's clearly not derivativeMay 19 20:01
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sebsebseboh Linux Mint yeahMay 19 20:02
MinceRit's marketingMay 19 20:02
sebsebsebwell yeah that's the closest distro we got realy,  to give Ubuntu proper competiton,  because Mageia and it's community isn't properly developed yet, and Fedora doesn't carea bout competiting properly against Ubuntu it seemsMay 19 20:02
MinceRwhat do you mean?May 19 20:02
sebsebsebMinceR: winning proper market shareMay 19 20:03
MinceRshould they be buying advertisements and shipping gratis cds too?May 19 20:03
sebsebsebwell Canonical no longer send the free CD'sMay 19 20:03
sebsebsebthat stopped earlier this yearMay 19 20:03
MinceRor try to talk dHell into another deal which might not mean anything?May 19 20:04
sebsebsebaltough as far as I know they still will send loads to LOCO teams for freeMay 19 20:04
sebsebseb,but other then that, no free CD'sMay 19 20:04
DaemonFCMinceR, I remember when I asked for an Ubuntu CD back in 2004 when I still used x86-32, they sent me 5 x86-32, 3 x86-64, and 2 for PowerPC MacsMay 19 20:05
DaemonFCOverkillMay 19 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Isn’t !Google Chrome a Part of !Android? • by John Gruber http://ping.fm/LJ1ouMay 19 20:05
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MinceRDaemonFC: there is no "overkill", there is only "open fire" and "i need to reload"May 19 20:05
DaemonFCThe Mac CDs made nice drink coastersMay 19 20:06
MinceRi used to use a cd "written" in my pioneer dvd burner as a coaster for a whileMay 19 20:06
MinceRit's not so greatMay 19 20:06
DaemonFCshame they had to pay international shipping to send me something I didn't needMay 19 20:06
DaemonFC:)May 19 20:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/73813806May 19 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr@ggoes's status on Wednesday, 18-May-11 21:03:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Bought a last minute brick in protest of the 3DS's ToS. You should too! http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendo !dbd !fsfMay 19 20:07
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MinceRit doesn't soak in the liquid, just lets it spread and dry all over the surfaceMay 19 20:07
MinceRit's also too bigMay 19 20:07
DaemonFCwell, there's the cardboard sleeves :)May 19 20:07
MinceRif the disc came in that :>May 19 20:07
schestowitz[20:03] <sebsebseb> well Canonical no longer send the free CD's   << /sarcasm/ maybe nobody wants to order unityXMay 19 20:08
MinceRhm, maybe it was a dvdMay 19 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva True, and if you uncover any case like that I will help correct. Seems more likely you'll get hit by comet while on date w/ #JolieMay 19 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if so, odds of a problem are low, but FPCA could avoid gratuitously exposing Cs and Fedora to risk, or losing Cs for itMay 19 20:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR anyway thought I would check that channel out, and yeah hmmMay 19 20:09
sebsebsebDaemonFC: ^May 19 20:09
MinceRwhich channel?May 19 20:09
sebsebsebMinceR: the power users channel that was being advertisedMay 19 20:09
sebsebsebUbuntu power usersMay 19 20:09
MinceRicMay 19 20:10
sebsebsebschestowitz: no suprise really that toros is in there ^May 19 20:10
sebsebsebMinceR: someone who well dents a bit to much really about Ubuntu on identicaMay 19 20:11
sebsebsebalso an Ubuntu Community Member so no wonderMay 19 20:11
MinceRi don't really careMay 19 20:12
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah me either really,  ok so there's   yet another Ubuntu  channel, this time for power users, because of UnityMay 19 20:12
MinceRmentioning "power users" and "unity" in one sentence is kind of funnyMay 19 20:13
MinceRif there's a major DE for "power users", it's KDE and XFCE, not unityMay 19 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Up for review: 2.6.38.7 http://bit.ly/kG51u5 2.6.33.14 http://bit.ly/mRqokd 2.6.32.41 http://bit.ly/jH9DI0 #stable #longterm #linux #kernelMay 19 20:13
MinceRnor gnomeMay 19 20:13
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sebsebsebMinceR:  well this is meant to be so peple can customise Ubuntu or whatever, this channelMay 19 20:14
sebsebsebhave help with it or whateverMay 19 20:14
sebsebsebMinceR: as you can see if you read jono's ilnk about itMay 19 20:14
MinceRcustomize... unity?May 19 20:15
MinceR:>May 19 20:15
sebsebsebno actsaully that's about a community being started for power users, then the channel came soon afterMay 19 20:15
DaemonFC(03:12:51 PM)  ヤクいさん~♥！:  May 19 20:15
DaemonFChear that thing about a bunch of crazy christians saying the world's going to end on the 21st?May 19 20:15
DaemonFC May 19 20:15
DaemonFC(03:13:08 PM)  Ryan Farmer:  May 19 20:15
DaemonFChopefully they'll commit mass suicideMay 19 20:15
DaemonFC May 19 20:15
DaemonFC(03:13:11 PM)  Ryan Farmer:  May 19 20:15
DaemonFCdibs on their walletsMay 19 20:15
sebsebsebanyway for those who don't like Unity, they may as well use another distro really with KDE or XFCE or LXDE or whatever they are going to run :)May 19 20:15
DaemonFCheheMay 19 20:15
MinceR:>May 19 20:15
sebsebseband when I say another distro I don't mean Kubuntu, Lubuntu, or Xubuntu, I mean a proper other distro :)May 19 20:16
MinceR:>May 19 20:16
sebsebsebMinceR:  meaning that you agree?May 19 20:16
MinceRi doMay 19 20:16
sebsebsebanyway the Ubuntu magic  started to wear off for me when 9.04 was the latest or in development or whateverMay 19 20:16
sebsebsebnow I got Mageia magic instead :D and well that actsaully does mean Magic in ancient greek or whatever :DMay 19 20:17
sebsebsebaltough actssually running Ubuntu 11.04 with Classic Desktop at the moment, hmmMay 19 20:17
sebsebseb,but anyway whatever, come on Mageia :)May 19 20:17
sebsebsebcome on other distro's all of them reallyMay 19 20:17
sebsebseblet's give Ubuntu some nice proper competition :)   competition  = inovoation, and a better Desktop Linux as a whole with hte various distro'sMay 19 20:18
MinceRit's already happeningMay 19 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Not sure why you think FPCA is affecting risk at all. Risk of licensing mistake is about equal in all contribution systems.May 19 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @silner "Cloud computing isn't just disruptive 2 software market; it's also disruptive 2 software freedom advocacy" /by @webmink http ...May 19 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva Assumption is that at margins #FPCA will expand number of contributors. If opposite happens, will revise.May 19 20:18
MinceRand it has always been ever since the GNU Project startedMay 19 20:18
sebsebsebwhat?May 19 20:19
sebsebsebUbuntu is the distro that matters the most for most Desktop Linux users right nowMay 19 20:19
sebsebsebthe other distro's hardly matter at all to these peopleMay 19 20:19
sebsebseband that's how it is, right now, if we like it or not, so come on other distro's give proper competition :)May 19 20:19
sebsebseband I am talking about the Desktop hereMay 19 20:19
sebsebsebDesktop LinuxMay 19 20:20
sebsebsebservers and such that's a differnet storyMay 19 20:20
MinceRmost of the innovation isn't even about distrosMay 19 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open standards and a smart energy grid: Interview with Green Energy Corp | http://red.ht/medRXB #opensource #totalgridMay 19 20:21
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sebsebsebMinceR: well yeah most of it is, the Desktop Envrionments and Linux kernel and suchMay 19 20:22
sebsebsebstuff the distro's useMay 19 20:22
sebsebseb,but people don't just go and think like thatMay 19 20:23
sebsebsebthey think distro's distro's,  or uh more like for most of them that use this stuff, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Canonical , Mark Shuttleworth, wow how asesomeMay 19 20:23
sebsebsebawesomeMay 19 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana defaulting to permissive when GPL might be required means contributor takes up the risk of forgetting to note GPL reqsMay 19 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana IMHO it would be better for contributor if “unlicensed contributions” for existing copyleft files inherited the copyleft conditionsMay 19 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva In reality the contributor isn't thinking about any of this, most likely.May 19 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #PATRIOTAct sell-out: House and Senate leaders reportedly agree to 4-year extension of PATRIOT with no reforms https://eff.org/r.56tMay 19 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva That's a reasonable approach for a project to take. #FPCA approach is reasonable (for #Fedora) too.May 19 20:30
sebsebsebMinceR: DaemonFC schestowitz :) http://identi.ca/conversation/71442927May 19 20:31
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sebsebsebMinceR: DaemonFC schestowitz However it will be like :D for me when it's people switching from Ubuntu to Mageia :)May 19 20:31
sebsebsebwell yeah 1st June not that long to go now :)May 19 20:31
DaemonFCIs Mageia using systemd?May 19 20:31
DaemonFCI'm liking systemdMay 19 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That's a tough one. Looks like there are good technical reasons, but it would be so divisive & didn't we rail at Canonical for similar?May 19 20:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: hmm apparantly notMay 19 20:33
sebsebsebinstead it's usingMay 19 20:34
sebsebsebinitscriptsMay 19 20:34
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DaemonFCI don't know why Ubuntu has Upstart or why they even created it just to run everything in legacy mode May 19 20:35
DaemonFCsystemd still has a few legacy scripts, but most of the system uses the new way of doing thingsMay 19 20:35
DaemonFCin Fedora that isMay 19 20:36
sebsebsebI think upstart was before systemdMay 19 20:36
sebsebsebactsaulleyMay 19 20:36
DaemonFCyeahMay 19 20:36
sebsebsebalso changing is a bit of an issueMay 19 20:36
sebsebsebso they will probably do so after 12.04 if systemd is much betterMay 19 20:36
DaemonFCsystemd also does the same readahed functions that Ubuntu ureadahead does, with no kernel patching involvedMay 19 20:36
DaemonFCUbuntu has to patch the kernel to make theirs workMay 19 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm with 102 dents!May 19 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana @bkuhn GPLv4? Scary.....May 19 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @KaleyCuoco TheBigBang# finale tonight people. Don't miss it. It's high-larious.May 19 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @zotz @laurelrusswurm #Democracy cannot require #FreeSoftware as it can exist in the absence of software. Perhaps it cannot survive n ...May 19 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Yes, of course you're right :)May 19 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Guys, check this out... !BunchOfCreepers intro sequence: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7876850/creepers-intro.mp4 :DMay 19 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Did I just play an mp4 video natively in chromium? I think I did.May 19 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Check out @DemandProgress's action alert opposing the PROTECT IP Internet censorship bill: https://eff.org/r.45uMay 19 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra It's awesome, isn't it? :DMay 19 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] My friends @tSunshineLove @BMartinSeattle will @SaveBradley http://is.gd/ARPpHJ http://tiny.cc/qpdmp Help us: http://ur1.ca/4823b !wikileaksMay 19 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Logging into #Minecraft. !minersMay 19 20:58
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schestowitzhttp://thenextweb.com/industry/2011/05/18/not-so-fast-sonys-playstation-network-hacked-again/May 19 21:02
schestowitzLOLMay 19 21:02
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_Goblinhi mate!May 19 21:03
schestowitz0/May 19 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh yes and no. Yes, native video is good. No, the video uses proprietary video and audio codecsMay 19 21:03
schestowitzLOLMay 19 21:04
schestowitzThe Bought Bot (Bott) spreads nonsenseMay 19 21:04
schestowitzPeople who use macs install malwareMay 19 21:04
schestowitzThemselvesMay 19 21:04
schestowitzand he pretends it makes it like WindowsMay 19 21:04
schestowitzif anything, this just shows the power of Linux with reposMay 19 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Audio is MP3 which isn't strictly proprietary but yes, I get your point.May 19 21:06
schestowitzLinux is winning http://www.linuxplanet.com/news/chromebook-debuts-as-ubuntu-developer-summit-maps-out-the-future.html and surprisingly not led by IBM as some people predictedMay 19 21:07
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schestowitzGoogle absorbed a lot of talented peopleMay 19 21:07
schestowitzNow it's cashing in big w/ LinuxMay 19 21:08
schestowitzIt also makes money with it, using ads and such stuffMay 19 21:08
schestowitz_Goblin: I'm eager to test recording with SIP because I need to get the OK on it. I can't quite invite RMS until I know it works OK.May 19 21:09
_Goblinyeah....we'll get that sorted, although the issue, will be resolved...May 19 21:09
_GoblinRusty is keen to come back on.....May 19 21:10
_Goblinand we have the GCT devs to sort outMay 19 21:10
schestowitzhttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/microsoft-skypeMay 19 21:10
schestowitzbt RMSMay 19 21:10
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schestowitz_Goblin: excellent!May 19 21:10
DaemonFChmmm, your egg mcmuffin will be more expensive so they can buy cage free eggsMay 19 21:11
DaemonFCgod damn itMay 19 21:11
DaemonFCare we Canada now?May 19 21:11
DaemonFC:)May 19 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra ARRRRRGH! I AM BLIND!!!!! JEZRA RICKROLL!!! OoMay 19 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking hell. I can't get rid of this stupid lava. There's loads in my way and I just wanna dig! :/May 19 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Frustrated after spending a day trying to install #Wordpress Child theme & being told "The parent theme is missing. Please install"May 19 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon: E-books now outsell print books IComputerworld): http://bit.ly/k94OMRMay 19 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At least I'm getting shitloads of obsidian out of this.....May 19 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegocom: The MeeGo 1.2 project release is available for download: http://bit.ly/lVChl3 Learn more next week at #MeeGoConfMay 19 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nokia N900 Photo Stream – Irfan Samuel http://mge.bz/b9 #Nokia #N900 #Digital #Photography #Images #CameraMay 19 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Lights, camera, action! Tune in to the #AppUp show for developers http://intel.ly/k2xXsgMay 19 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Felipe Contreras: gst-av 0.5 released; now with video encoding and decoding support http://dlvr.it/SGssWMay 19 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Intel AppUp launches the Intel AppUp show for developers, a video show that highlights developers and t... http://bit.ly/lm03XpMay 19 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh I think you meant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s5PWdwHdHkMay 19 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Exactly. Are those Wayfarers, BTW?May 19 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet #Freedom: A Foreign Policy Imperative in the Digital Age - http://bit.ly/ky8JHD *domestic* issue now, I'd say (v @evgenymorozov)May 19 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lodsys & app #patent disputes - http://bit.ly/lnBlq1 "might spell the end of small & medium software development in the US." #patenttrollsMay 19 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh the new wayfarer. RB2132 They've outlasted all of my other prescription frames by 2 yearsMay 19 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US ITC Uses Ridiculous Methodology To Claim '#Piracy' In China Costs US Firms $48 Billion In 2009 - http://bit.ly/iBxlVN they don't learn...May 19 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I got those as shades. Thinking about getting a pair as normal glasses too.May 19 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, starting to get a hang on this lava lake. Now to clean this crap up and get back digging.... !minersMay 19 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] People coordinating build on the Great Wall of LO. Pretty awesome to watch! !minersMay 19 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I just <3 the block collection sound effect! :D #MinecraftMay 19 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I've so many #chickenpox blisters on the top of my head that each time I shiver it hurts like 100s of needles were being poked on it.May 19 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @chiefoldmist @ruskin147 copyright madness - not allowed to take pic of hospital photo of my eye 'coz it's "hospital's copyright" >>hmmMay 19 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: trueMay 19 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners, I love you! Teamwork is awesome! :DMay 19 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Content rips into Google, the "corporate imperialist" - http://bit.ly/lLvabI unlike Big Content, of course... #wipo #trips #acta #tppMay 19 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mcepl: she exists!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12985082 #failMay 19 21:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Modders Make Android Work the Way You Want (Wired) http://lwn.net/Articles/443845/rssMay 19 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Building The Kitchen Sink http://goo.gl/bzJvG !ubuntu #powerusersMay 19 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] "We hope you've enjoyed your 20 free articles this month." Not enough, @nytimes. Not enough.May 19 22:06
Ender_nothomehttp://www.ieo-imf.org/eval/complete/pdf/01102011/IEO_full_report_crisis.pdfMay 19 22:07
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Ender_nothomeHow the IMF Helped Bring On the World Financial CrisiMay 19 22:07
Ender_nothomehttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/strauss-kahn-heres-the-real-imf-scandal-2011-05-18?dist=beforebellMay 19 22:07
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Ender_nothomeStrauss-Kahn - Socialist, top socialist candidate to replace Zarkosky in FranceMay 19 22:08
DaemonFCEnder_nothome, schestowitz can remind you of one of my quotes hereMay 19 22:08
DaemonFCYou can't spell scandal without PENISMay 19 22:08
DaemonFC:)May 19 22:08
Ender_nothomelolMay 19 22:08
DaemonFCthe guy is the head of an organization that fucks over 7 billion peopleMay 19 22:09
DaemonFCand he gets arrested for playing touchy feely with a hotel maidMay 19 22:09
Ender_nothomelike AWE NOLDMay 19 22:09
Ender_nothomedoesn't seem like a safe profession, being a maid for the eliteMay 19 22:10
Ender_nothomeyou get fucked twice, once normally like everyone elseMay 19 22:10
Ender_nothomethen you get fucked again literallyMay 19 22:10
DaemonFCYep, sometimes you pay the bitch to keep quiet and they just don't, he should have had her deported in the middle of the night like any good Republican that hires illegal immigrants (Was she an illegal? I haven't been watching the news because I don't care)May 19 22:10
Ender_nothomethere was a liberal MP who illegally owned slaves, she got relectedMay 19 22:11
Ender_nothomeRuby DhallaMay 19 22:11
Ender_nothomeshe held them in captivity and refused them access to their passport and IDMay 19 22:12
DaemonFCthen there's shoot shovel and shut up, politicial styleMay 19 22:12
DaemonFCworked for Gary ConditMay 19 22:12
DaemonFCResponding to blackmail just means they're around to get more money from you later, he had alternatives :)May 19 22:13
DaemonFCheheMay 19 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !MeeGo 1.2 Released → https://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/meego-1.2-release !linux !fsMay 19 22:15
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DaemonFCEnder_nothome, Hiring someone to kill her, or getting her deported if she was illegal are tried and trueMay 19 22:15
DaemonFCcall me old fashioned but I say go with what worksMay 19 22:16
Ender_nothomeno doubt that's what they'll doMay 19 22:16
Ender_nothomeif they are an ambassador with diplomatic immunity, its even worseMay 19 22:16
Ender_nothomecops will find these people prostitutesMay 19 22:16
DaemonFCdiplomatic immunity isn't always totalMay 19 22:17
DaemonFCand if it's something serious, the country they represent can remove it May 19 22:17
DaemonFCand then you can prosecute themMay 19 22:17
Ender_nothomeyeah but it has to be seriousMay 19 22:17
DaemonFCsometimes the choice is to be prosecuted in the US or go home and be prosecutedMay 19 22:18
DaemonFCthen they might give it up themselvesMay 19 22:18
DaemonFCI'm guessing our prisons are nicer than the ones in RussiaMay 19 22:18
DaemonFCor MexicoMay 19 22:18
DaemonFC:)May 19 22:18
Ender_nothomeit wont happen over a prostituteMay 19 22:18
Ender_nothomeor drugsMay 19 22:18
DaemonFCright, prostitution is like a parking ticket to these peopleMay 19 22:19
DaemonFCthey wave their hand and it disappearsMay 19 22:19
DaemonFCsame with drugsMay 19 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] figured why I can't be arsed with boxing, almost every fight is for some title or other like school medals, and they pick their opponentsMay 19 22:20
DaemonFCEnder_nothome, New York City has a real hell of a time with ambassadors with diplomatic immunity ignoring our laws May 19 22:20
DaemonFC:)May 19 22:20
DaemonFChaving the UN there costs the city millions of dollars a year in unpaid finesMay 19 22:21
DaemonFCbecause they'll double park or something and then not pay the ticketMay 19 22:21
Ender_nothomethats cause they act like they own the placeMay 19 22:22
Ender_nothomenot far from the truthMay 19 22:22
schestowitzEnder_nothome: you're the one behind the CommunistCanada account, aren't you?May 19 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Stop @ATT's takeover of @TMobile! Submit an official public comment to the FCC: http://bit.ly/kVBibTMay 19 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell @EPAgov to protect our health and environment from coal's mercury pollution http://j.mp/EPA-ruleMay 19 22:23
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schestowitzI try to be forthcoming and you attack me from that account claiming that I'm something I'm not?May 19 22:23
Ender_nothomei dont have a communistcanada accountMay 19 22:24
Ender_nothomewhy would iMay 19 22:24
Ender_nothomei hate communismMay 19 22:24
Ender_nothomewhere is that site btw?May 19 22:24
Ender_nothomevery telling that you would visit a place like that tooMay 19 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] imagine if !football was arranged like boxing; phone #Barca up "play you for the Champions League title on Saturday?" #90minchampsMay 19 22:25
schestowitzno,, twitterMay 19 22:25
schestowitzIt was targetting meMay 19 22:25
schestowitzAnd the account name is Brandon May 19 22:25
Ender_nothomemy twitter account was ender2070 and it's gone nowMay 19 22:25
Ender_nothometwitter and identica are full of foolsMay 19 22:25
Ender_nothomeBrandon lolMay 19 22:25
Ender_nothomeI'm every one of themMay 19 22:26
schestowitzit had a style similar to yours, that's allMay 19 22:26
Ender_nothomeI think you saw Canada and Brandon, and assumedMay 19 22:26
schestowitzYesMay 19 22:27
schestowitzSo why did you shut down your accounts?May 19 22:27
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schestowitzAnd why were people calling the people about you if I may ask?May 19 22:27
Ender_nothomegood thing I don't take everything I read on the net from 'Roy Schestowitz' with a grain of truth ehMay 19 22:27
Ender_nothomehuh?May 19 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's new in #Linux 2.6.39 http://is.gd/J7juP1 #kernelMay 19 22:28
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Ender_nothomeyou mean why I left?May 19 22:28
schestowitzNoMay 19 22:30
schestowitzWhat has happened recrntly?May 19 22:30
schestowitzYou did not do anything radical AFAICTMay 19 22:30
schestowitzTo get complaint to police I know some people made mentions of armed revolutionMay 19 22:30
Ender_nothomeI had someone from the hate crimes unit come to my houseMay 19 22:31
Ender_nothomebased on 'something I said' in a chat roomMay 19 22:31
Ender_nothomeI think it was twitter nowMay 19 22:31
Ender_nothomenot ircMay 19 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat releases Enterprise Linux 6.1 http://is.gd/njgdoQ http://is.gd/WsAiLP where a lot of the code which runs most servers comes fromMay 19 22:31
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schestowitzEnder_nothome: what was the nature of it?May 19 22:32
Ender_nothomeill find out more when I go to the hearingMay 19 22:32
Ender_nothomeim thinking its censorshipMay 19 22:32
Ender_nothomeI talk about world government, un, conspiracies, etcMay 19 22:32
Ender_nothomei dont know the exact nature yetMay 19 22:32
Ender_nothomeill know soonMay 19 22:33
DaemonFC/home/ryan/Music/Metallica/And Justice For All/04 - One.ogg B-)May 19 22:33
schestowitz"hate crime" is a bit of a paradoxMay 19 22:33
Ender_nothomeconspiracy theorists made the hate crimes list in canadaMay 19 22:33
schestowitzLike "thought crime" (1984)May 19 22:33
schestowitzBut I think they refer to incitationsMay 19 22:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, If I beat your skull in, in violent rage, was it a hate crime?May 19 22:33
DaemonFChow about if after the fact they decide it's because of sexuality or race?May 19 22:33
Ender_nothomea hate crime in canada is saying something that may expose a group to violenceMay 19 22:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: not if it's a cowMay 19 22:34
Ender_nothomekeyword: mayMay 19 22:34
DaemonFChow violent does it have to be before I hated you?May 19 22:34
DaemonFCB-)May 19 22:34
schestowitz:-)May 19 22:34
schestowitzI love you manMay 19 22:34
schestowitzj/kMay 19 22:34
Ender_nothomeso I guess I exposed bankers to violence by exposing their crimesMay 19 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm off to bed. See you people tomorrow!May 19 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thank you! RT @rcalo Rep. Zoe Lofgren to @EFF Cindy Cohn: "thank you for all that you do."May 19 22:35
DaemonFCevery violent crime is a hate crime and should be prosecuted accordinglyMay 19 22:35
schestowitzbankers is a powerful groupMay 19 22:35
DaemonFCmaking it two crimes jsut to satisfy minorities is all politicalMay 19 22:35
schestowitzThey are also behind the witchhunt of Assange, said AssangeMay 19 22:35
Ender_nothomebblMay 19 22:35
MinceR212055 < sebsebseb> ,but people don't just go and think like thatMay 19 22:35
MinceR212114 < sebsebseb> they think distro's distro's,  or uh more like for most of them that use this stuff, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Ubuntu, Canonical , Mark Shuttleworth, wow how asesomeMay 19 22:35
MinceRdoesn't make it trueMay 19 22:35
schestowitzthey have mighty lobbying powerMay 19 22:35
Ender_nothomeyeah Assange had to deal with this tooMay 19 22:35
schestowitzLike no other groupMay 19 22:35
MinceRdoesn't make ubuntu the omg-innovative distro, just a hyped oneMay 19 22:36
schestowitzhehMay 19 22:36
_Goblinmincer: you won't like my Unity observations then :)May 19 22:36
schestowitzToday I spoke to a mate who is very deep in debtMay 19 22:36
schestowitzHe might need to have his kids repay itMay 19 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.10 Release Schedule Published http://is.gd/Dhj1Xk #gnu #linuxMay 19 22:36
schestowitzHe's veyr depressedMay 19 22:36
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DaemonFCWe already have a system to account for state of mind, several actually. There are four degrees of murder and several others for accidental homicidesMay 19 22:37
DaemonFCwhy do we need hate crime laws? We don'tMay 19 22:37
schestowitzHe lost a lot of weight because of stressMay 19 22:37
_GoblinI think we do...May 19 22:37
schestowitzNow, *that's* torture... thanks, bankers.May 19 22:37
schestowitz_Goblin: depends where the line is drawnMay 19 22:37
_Goblinand thats the difficultyMay 19 22:38
schestowitzRemember that Charlie Veich duee?May 19 22:38
_Goblinwhere to draw the line and who draws itMay 19 22:38
DaemonFC_Goblin, The Hate crime mess all started because vcertain voting blocs decided they were better than everyone else and it should be more of a crime to murder or injure themMay 19 22:38
_GoblinA racial incident is an any incident that is perceived as such by the victim.May 19 22:38
_Goblinsame for hate crimesMay 19 22:38
DaemonFCyou murder a straight white guy it's murder, you murder anyone else, it's a hate crimeMay 19 22:39
schestowitzhttp://adi.roiban.ro/2011/05/19/unity-2d-on-ubuntu-1010/May 19 22:39
DaemonFCit's all so ridiculous May 19 22:39
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_Goblinno, but then if that has to be a consideration in the investigationMay 19 22:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe he drove a Mercedes :-)May 19 22:39
_Goblinyou could murder a straight white guy in a hate crimeMay 19 22:39
DaemonFCHate cime laws are like something out of Animal FarmMay 19 22:39
DaemonFC*crimeMay 19 22:39
_Goblinwhy couldn't someone hate straight white males? thats a hate crime right there...May 19 22:40
schestowitzhey jono_, ma man, have you seen this? http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/05/jono-bacon-ubuntu-community-manager.htmlMay 19 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jono Bacon, Ubuntu Community Manager - Unity is too simple ~ Linux Tweaking - http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com .::. Size~: 80.03 KBMay 19 22:40
DaemonFC_Goblin, Because they aren't a minority with attention whores asking for special treatmentMay 19 22:40
DaemonFC:)May 19 22:40
_Goblinminority has nothing to do with it....May 19 22:40
schestowitz_Goblin: see BeckMay 19 22:40
schestowitz!google beck obama "hates white people"May 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Beck: Obama has "exposed himself as a guy" with "a deep-seated ... | http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907280008May 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Fox Host Glenn Beck: Obama Is A "Racist" (VIDEO) | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/fox-host-glenn-beck-obama_n_246310.htmlMay 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Glenn Beck: Obama Is a Racist - CBS News | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/29/politics/main5195604.shtmlMay 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - ThinkProgress » After saying Obama has 'hatred for white people ... | http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/28/beck-obama-hatred/May 19 22:41
schestowitzHe's immune by saying itMay 19 22:41
schestowitz!google beck "hates black people"May 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - philebrity.com » Blog Archive » Glenn Beck: “Philadelphia Is Not A ... | http://www.philebrity.com/2011/01/18/glenn-beck-philadelphia-is-not-a-place-you-want-to-be/May 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Glenn Beck smears Obama's 11-year-old daughter | Media Matters for ... | http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025May 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Glenn Beck's scary negro militants turn out to be really, really ... | http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-becks-scary-negro-militants-tuMay 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Glenn Beck says President Obama hates white people and is a racist ... | http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/glenn-beck-says-president-obama-hates-white-people-and-is-a-racistMay 19 22:41
DaemonFCYou say everyone should be equal, you're on the far right apparentlyMay 19 22:41
jono_schestowitz I did, I even left a comment if you scroll downMay 19 22:42
DaemonFCyou say minorities should be more equal, and you're in the Animal Farm politics promoted by special interestsMay 19 22:42
DaemonFCI don't think the state should say someone's life is worth more than mine because their skin is a different colorMay 19 22:42
DaemonFCor because of who they have sex withMay 19 22:42
DaemonFCor what god(s) they worshipMay 19 22:43
_Goblin....I would like to think the UK promotes diversity and equality.....I think its one of the few things we are starting to get right.May 19 22:43
schestowitzjono_: thanks, hope it helpedMay 19 22:43
schestowitzlike I said this morning, I support canonical, just didn't think ignoring the issue/grievance would be smart for the companyMay 19 22:43
DaemonFCdiversity=people who look different | equality=those people are given special treatment via reverse racismMay 19 22:44
schestowitz[hope you saw that remark from me]May 19 22:44
DaemonFCthat's going on a lot hereMay 19 22:44
schestowitz_Goblin: more so than in the US, I thinkMay 19 22:44
_Goblinno DaemonFC diversity can be a plethora of things not just "looking different" - Its the right to live your life to the set of values you believe in, providing that is within the law (obviously)May 19 22:44
schestowitzThe UK is very civilised and politically correct compared to some other Western countries.May 19 22:45
jono_schestowitz ignoring which issue?May 19 22:45
DaemonFC_Goblin, And I never argued the state should interfere with people's delusions May 19 22:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: you, for example, are quite racist and enough to upset many in this channelMay 19 22:45
DaemonFCthose are their delusions and they are entitled to them :)May 19 22:45
schestowitzjono_: that people are genuinely having genuine problems with unityMay 19 22:45
DaemonFCI'm not racist just because I say I want real equalityMay 19 22:45
DaemonFCinstead of phony liberal perversion of equalityMay 19 22:46
_Goblinschestowitz, Im just about to finish a post on Unity.......May 19 22:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: you say nasty things here about "Mexicans"May 19 22:46
jono_schestowitz well, it depends on how you define "problem" - people getting used to it is not a problem, crashers are problems thoughMay 19 22:46
schestowitzjono_: most blogs I read about unity are negativeMay 19 22:47
_Goblinjono, to be fair, I tried my hardest to crash the thing....I couldn't...its been rock solid.May 19 22:47
schestowitzthis was not the case in 10.10May 19 22:47
DaemonFCI didn't have to try, it did it roughly every few minutesMay 19 22:47
schestowitzjono_: like I said, I haven't tried it.May 19 22:47
DaemonFCusually instead of playing the effect, it just crashesMay 19 22:47
schestowitzMany bloggers whose blogs I followed for years didMay 19 22:47
DaemonFCthe whole thing is pretty flimsy/shoddyMay 19 22:47
jono_schestowitz we are in a period of changeMay 19 22:48
_GoblinDaemonFC, but thats your experience...let me know when someone writes software that works on a plethora of different hardware configs without ANY issues.May 19 22:48
jono_remember the window buttons furore?May 19 22:48
schestowitzand the context in wich I address to you a comment you overlook was MarkS' remark that kind of evades the issue and says it was welcomedMay 19 22:48
jono_this is an amped up version of that to a degree - change generates emotionMay 19 22:48
schestowitzIt reminded me of how Ballmer and Chums said Vista was a success and loved by allMay 19 22:48
jono_sure, there are issues to resolve, but I think a lot of the feedback is emotionally reaction to changeMay 19 22:48
schestowitz[22:48] <jono_> schestowitz we are in a period of changeMay 19 22:48
schestowitzYesMay 19 22:48
schestowitzGoblin's wife likes itMay 19 22:49
DaemonFC_Goblin, Well, it's like, 90% of the time the software I use works, and with anything Canonical makes, it's more like 10%May 19 22:49
schestowitzI think it's hardcore users that suffer in the interimMay 19 22:49
DaemonFCso I think they do craptastic workMay 19 22:49
_Goblinschestowitz, but Roy, i'm using 11.04 and I have not had any issues, infact once used to the different way of working, actually decided not to return to Sabayon.May 19 22:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: quiet downMay 19 22:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: you raise the temperature for no good reasonMay 19 22:49
DaemonFCanything that works right in Ubuntu hasn't been touched by Canonical that muchMay 19 22:49
schestowitz_Goblin: you told me a different story on the phone yesterdayMay 19 22:50
schestowitzGNOME OS!May 19 22:50
schestowitznew postMay 19 22:50
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/systemd-in-gnome-packagekit-and-what-gnome-as-an-os-really-means/May 19 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Systemd in GNOME, PackageKit and what GNOME as an OS really means .::. Size~: 77.08 KBMay 19 22:51
_Goblinschestowitz, no....Im talking hardware issues....May 19 22:51
schestowitzhttp://adnan.quaium.com/blog/2035May 19 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME OS! | Adnan's Den .::. Size~: 55.06 KBMay 19 22:51
schestowitz_Goblin: OKMay 19 22:51
_Goblinschestowitz, Ive had none of thoseMay 19 22:51
schestowitzdid you try chakra?May 19 22:51
schestowitzIt has just gotten an insulting reviewMay 19 22:51
schestowitzThe developers must be sad over itMay 19 22:51
schestowitzAnd I think I once spoke to the devMay 19 22:51
_Goblinschestowitz, its a question of getting used to something different, I have features I'd like changed but on the whole I think its a positive.....May 19 22:51
schestowitzsome dude didn't treat it like a betaMay 19 22:52
schestowitzDidn't boot or somethingMay 19 22:52
_Goblinschestowitz, as I say in the article, change is a big barrier....jump that and you might me surprised.May 19 22:52
_Goblin*beMay 19 22:52
MinceRgnome.koMay 19 22:53
schestowitzI'm in no mood for jumping :-)May 19 22:53
schestowitzHad some beer today..May 19 22:53
_Goblinschestowitz, I think many the critics might have been basing their entire views off a few hours of use, if I had released the article yesterday I think it would have been very different to the one today.....just like a Windows - Linux change takes some time, I think the same is for Unity. May 19 22:53
schestowitzyes, I could never get used to Windows :-)May 19 22:54
schestowitzwas on a vista machine of a friend to install dual-headMay 19 22:54
schestowitzCouldn't find the settingsMay 19 22:55
schestowitzAnd it didn't workMay 19 22:55
_Goblinas I said yesterday though, hardware wise its Ubuntu, it works.......May 19 22:55
schestowitzTotal cluster***May 19 22:55
_Goblinand stability....again, rock solid.May 19 22:55
schestowitzWhen Windows is ready for the desktop I might retryMay 19 22:55
_GoblinlolMay 19 22:55
_Goblinand on that day Satan will be coming to work on a snow sledge pulled by huskiesMay 19 22:56
DaemonFCThe way things work in Windows are, they have to shuffle the GUI around each time to make it look different than the last version and it's like a game trying to become accustomed to the new GUIMay 19 22:56
DaemonFCapparently that's how it is in the GNOME/Unity world nowMay 19 22:56
_Goblinthats to make you think you are getting something new/extra for your moneyMay 19 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] #Care2 No !fracking in the Sacred Headwaters, get the #Shell out of here! http://bit.ly/mAjpBD !umwelt !klima !ppd !nature !birds !greenMay 19 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get the Shell Out of the Sacred Headwaters - The Petition Site .::. Size~: 68.83 KBMay 19 22:56
DaemonFCproductivity killing pointless crapMay 19 22:57
DaemonFC*cough*May 19 22:57
DaemonFC_Goblin, Office does it too to make it feel out of place if you haven't bought the newest WindowsMay 19 22:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: did you use it?May 19 22:58
DaemonFCOffice XP has XP style menus even if you use it on Windows 2000May 19 22:58
DaemonFCUse what?May 19 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Winning: Q&A with Jim Whitehurst, Red Hat CEO http://is.gd/VouVOd the man with a plan. #gnu #linux #redhatMay 19 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Winning: Q&A with Jim Whitehurst, Red Hat CEO - Features - Open Source - Computer Business Review .::. Size~: 49.48 KBMay 19 22:58
schestowitzubuntu 11.04 finalMay 19 22:58
_Goblinjono, I may have missed it....but I am right in thinking that no IRC is packaged by default with 11.04?May 19 22:58
DaemonFCyesMay 19 22:58
schestowitzhow long for?May 19 22:58
DaemonFCI gave up on it after about 4-5 hours and I forget how many crashes and bits of the UI that just don't workMay 19 22:59
schestowitz_Goblin: no pidgin?May 19 22:59
DaemonFCdidn't take longMay 19 22:59
schestowitzit's your machineMay 19 22:59
_Goblinah...I didnt look for that....May 19 22:59
schestowitz!google vista it's the printer's faultMay 19 22:59
DaemonFCuse XChat once and go insane and tell me what you think of itMay 19 22:59
_Goblinlet me checkMay 19 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Vista -- print spooler service constantly stops. I cannot print. | http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistaprinting/thread/2634b214-64e7-4002-959e-5d11010b65c0/May 19 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dark printing issue with Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums | http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/142609-dark-printing-issue-windows-7-a.htmlMay 19 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Spooler SubSystem App Stopped Working And Was Closed - Vista Help | http://forums.techarena.in/vista-help/686461.htmMay 19 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Epson Problems!!! - CNET Windows Vista Forums | http://forums.cnet.com/7723-12546_102-253229.htmlMay 19 22:59
_Goblinschestowitz, nope...it shows that as available for download, not installedMay 19 22:59
schestowitz_Goblin: did you sort out the xchat notification issue?May 19 23:00
DaemonFCjono's solution was to use XChat-braindeadMay 19 23:00
DaemonFCI mean, the pointless fork that just removes options, XChat-GNOMEMay 19 23:00
_Goblinnope (on purpose) my article was to experience Unity in its default state (presumably how Canonical wants you to experience it)May 19 23:00
_GoblinI could customize it to death and make it act like Sabayon....sort of would defeat the objectMay 19 23:01
DaemonFCUnity crashes when you load Compiz plugins. Solution: Go use the proprietary driver instead. What? Are you crazy? ZOMG get the ZOMG FGLRX!!!!May 19 23:02
DaemonFC:)May 19 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenwalk 7: Shall We DANCE? http://is.gd/17Mnwa #gnu #linuxMay 19 23:03
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_GoblinWhich Compiz plugin crash it?May 19 23:03
_Goblinon what hardware config?May 19 23:03
DaemonFCall of them that I tried loadingMay 19 23:03
DaemonFCusing r600g on a RadeonHD 5670May 19 23:04
_Goblinah its one of those "Nothing works, woe is me...."May 19 23:04
DaemonFCI finally installed FGLRX for kicks and the problem went awayMay 19 23:04
DaemonFCthey don't work right with free driversMay 19 23:04
_Goblinwell then don't use them.May 19 23:04
DaemonFCprobably because no Ubuntu user cares about free softwareMay 19 23:04
DaemonFCkind of like the developersMay 19 23:04
DaemonFCthere you go. You have GNOME 3 which doesn't work with FGLRX, and Unity which doesn't work with free software driversMay 19 23:05
DaemonFCso plan accordinglyMay 19 23:05
DaemonFCor just use KDE which works with everythingMay 19 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Test of #chakra #gnu #linux before final release http://is.gd/i8aDgw http://is.gd/fsAE3ZMay 19 23:06
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DaemonFC_Goblin, This is the problem with demanding mandatory compositing May 19 23:09
schestowitz:/May 19 23:09
DaemonFCyou enter a "it only works with these driver/hardware combinations and everyone else can go fuck themselves in our shitty fallback desktop"May 19 23:09
schestowitzlanguage!May 19 23:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: don't say s* and f* work hereMay 19 23:10
DaemonFCI think that in and of itself is enough reason to avoid mandatory compositing with the current Linux graphics hardware/driver statusMay 19 23:10
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DaemonFCit would be fine if you could guarantee it worked on anything theoretically powerful enough to run it, but you can'tMay 19 23:11
MinceRgnMay 19 23:11
DaemonFCso the whole desktop environment is torpedoed due to mandatory eye candyMay 19 23:11
DaemonFCoh, it gets better.... Maybe it was only one effect that caused the problem but the user has no way to disable that effect (GNOME 3) or no way to disable it by default (Unity)May 19 23:13
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schestowitzthere's unity 2d, no?May 19 23:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slacking the South African Way: Meeting #Kongoni #GNU #Linux http://is.gd/8nZhuQ "In general terms, Kongoni looks like a good distro."May 19 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Top 6 !Ubuntu 11.04 Themes to Make #Natty Narwhal Look a Lot More Attractive http://goo.gl/ogGq5May 19 23:21
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sebsebseb_Goblin: about?May 19 23:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, Unity 2d isn't the same thing and I don't get why they need itMay 19 23:24
DaemonFClet the user turn off the compositor May 19 23:24
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schestowitzhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/mexican-telecom-giant-america-movil-eyeing-canada-analyst/article2028002/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner&utm_content=My+Yahoo&utm_campaign=Feed:+TheGlobeAndMail-Business+(The+Globe+and+Mail+-+Business+News)May 19 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexican telecom giant America Movil eyeing Canada: analyst - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 96.73 KBMay 19 23:25
schestowitzWhat a bag of ____May 19 23:25
DaemonFCCarlos Not-So-Slim strikes againMay 19 23:27
DaemonFCHe's like a Mexican BallmerMay 19 23:27
DaemonFCDesarrolladores! Desarrolladores! Desarrolladores!May 19 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sydney, Fri, 6pm (May 20): Who’s Afraid of WikiLeaks? http://is.gd/KsHG2WMay 19 23:38
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schestowitzbastards areMay 19 23:40
sebsebsebDaemonFC: way more to Desktop Linux than just Ubuntu, at least more and mroe  people are starting to reolise this now :)May 19 23:40
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DaemonFCschestowitz doesn't like it when you speak ill of Linspire (Inc.) 2.0May 19 23:41
DaemonFCbetter keep it quiet :PMay 19 23:42
sebsebsebDaemonFC: anwyay I am getting odd issues with UbuntuMay 19 23:42
sebsebsebmaybe just my computer, but probably not quiteMay 19 23:42
DaemonFCprobably notMay 19 23:42
sebsebsebso for example,  how sometimes when come back to the computer, and well can't see anything properly anymore, and move the cursour around and things get worseMay 19 23:43
sebsebsebor  when I went away earlier for example and came back, and the screen was black, and I coudn't do anything, I think I had that issue beforeMay 19 23:43
DaemonFCyou mean how Unity turns into blocks of solid black when you wake the monitor up? :)May 19 23:44
DaemonFCand those blocks go away when you mouse over themMay 19 23:44
sebsebsebpossibly to do with the driver I am using for graphics cardMay 19 23:44
sebsebsebno,  this is when running classic desktpoMay 19 23:44
DaemonFCLinspire (Inc.) 2.0 recommends proprietary driversMay 19 23:44
DaemonFCCanonicalspire May 19 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s Getting Harder To Defend #GoldmanSachs http://is.gd/z5IdoM http://is.gd/1A8q7b #fraudMay 19 23:45
sebsebsebactasuly runnin the experimetnal 3D driver right now, so open source oneMay 19 23:45
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DaemonFCKevin Carmony uses Ubuntu iircMay 19 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raj Gupta Was Merely Trying to Fulfill His Destiny As a Billionaire Eagle http://is.gd/q3Yjyw #toobilgtojail #goldmansachsMay 19 23:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Feds, NYS probing banks over #mortgage crisis http://is.gd/lUUN7t today I met a friend so deep in debt that he's too stressed to eat. #fraudMay 19 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody Big Content rips into Google, the "corporate imperialist" - http://bit.ly/lLvabI unlike Big Content, of course... #wipo #t ...May 19 23:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody RT @chiefoldmist @ruskin147 copyright madness - not allowed to take pic of hospital photo of my eye 'coz it's "hospital's ...May 19 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Journalists spar over #GoldmanSachs potential #criminal activity http://is.gd/4RKZl5 ‘real hope’ of fresh Goldman probe http://is.gd/oRbsYaMay 19 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Journalists spar over Goldman Sachs' potential criminal activity - Morning Clip - Salon.com .::. Size~: 62.35 KBMay 19 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MATT TAIBBI: #GoldmanSachs Executives Lied To Their Customers And Congress http://is.gd/32zqGz and still not in jail (only for poor people)May 19 23:53
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DaemonFChttp://www.theadvocates.org/quiz_result?e=30&i=90_30.gif&p=90May 19 23:55
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DaemonFCMine :)May 19 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: #Inkscape rocks.....that is all :DMay 19 23:56
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