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| schestowitz | They'l just break it more | May 23 00:00 |
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| ThistleWeb | I don't get why it's suddenly shoddy after the takeover | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Unless you use WP7 | May 23 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | well that was officially hell | May 23 00:00 |
| ThistleWeb | it hasn't changed yet | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: not what I said... | May 23 00:00 |
| *DaemonFC is fixing an air conditioner | May 23 00:00 | |
| schestowitz | It was shoddy before | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | And after | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | It's not feature rich | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Not so user-friendly | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I can't easily get to grips with some options | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | It's not designed right | May 23 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Like sorting by list criteria | May 23 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Or all sorts of call buttons | May 23 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Non-intuitive | May 23 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Linphone makes more sense I think | May 23 00:01 |
| ThistleWeb | <schestowitz> Shoddy software since acquisition << "since acquisition" implying there's been a change | May 23 00:01 |
| ThistleWeb | nothing has changed yet with skype since Microsoft bought it | May 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I meant it differently | May 23 00:02 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: ekiga prints this error when it starts: XCAP error: Unauthorized | May 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I realised after I wrote it | May 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | What I mean was: | May 23 00:02 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah lol, bet you did | May 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes Microsoft buys something decent | May 23 00:02 |
| schestowitz | And then ruins it | May 23 00:02 |
| msb_ | I'm running it from a konsole. | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | With skype they just bought a userbase | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | But the software is shoddy since the moment they bought it | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | So not much harm they can do, except to the userbase | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Same with hotmai | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They bought a userbase | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | And broke the sofwtare | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | [00:02] <ThistleWeb> nothing has changed yet with skype since Microsoft bought it | May 23 00:03 |
| ThistleWeb | wow, so it wasn't shoddy before, if it only became shoddy when it changed hands | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Technically they havan't bought it | May 23 00:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I also had a lot of trouble adding your SIP address to ekiga! | May 23 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They need to sign the deal AFAIK | May 23 00:03 |
| msb_ | Whereas with skype, adding contacts is very easy. | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | msb_: menu-add address | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | put name, addres, choose group | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | skype add contact is weird | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Confusing | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | You don't know if you're added | May 23 00:04 |
| schestowitz | it wasn't easy | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <ThistleWeb> wow, so it wasn't shoddy before, if it only became shoddy when it changed hands | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | No | May 23 00:05 |
| ThistleWeb | whatever the deal, the software hasn't been updated since | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | You are using a sraw man argument | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Show me where I said skype was good | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | C'mon, search for it | May 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | !google schestowitz skype is good | May 23 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Goodbye, Skype | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/10/skype-dies/ | May 23 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » TechBytes Episode 46 on Skype ... | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/05/16/skype-linux-and-android/ | May 23 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Twitter / Schestowitz: "Skype to the Xbox. Becaus ... | http://twitter.com/schestowitz/statuses/68564530485149696 | May 23 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: May 11th, 2011 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/irc-log-social-11052011.html | May 23 00:05 |
| ThistleWeb | to imply it was suddenly shoddy despite no updates because the deal was on is just wrong | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | but I didn't | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I always said it was shoddy | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I ranted a lot about it not working with Webcams | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Which Linux worked fine with\ | May 23 00:06 |
| ThistleWeb | "since the acquisition" means that was a point of change | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And all the simplest SIP clients | May 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And nothing changed | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | I still say it's bad | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | They reccently added Qt Curve support | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | But that's just visual | May 23 00:07 |
| ThistleWeb | exaclty, so it's nothing to do with the aquisition | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | And if I choose motif skype crashes in a bad way | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | With the kitchen sink | May 23 00:07 |
| ThistleWeb | that's fine, but it's nothing to do with any change of ownership | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <ThistleWeb> "since the acquisition" means that was a point of change | May 23 00:07 |
| schestowitz | No, I've clarified what I meant | May 23 00:08 |
| ThistleWeb | if you say so | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft bought something that since the start technically failed | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Unlike Hotmai | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Since the beginning they have shoddy software | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | But good userbase | May 23 00:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana In this particular case "Open Source company" seems to mean "company, which wishes to be percieved as Open Source company". | May 23 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | Which makes the skype botnet alive | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Without this botnet skype would not work well | May 23 00:08 |
| schestowitz | No supernodes | May 23 00:08 |
| msb_ | And I get a popup that tells me to configure my router according to this web page, which appears to say I have to open 104 ports -- one hundred and four -- to make it work: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Enable_port_forwarding_manually | May 23 00:08 |
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| schestowitz | The whole software is based on exploiting other people's machines | May 23 00:09 |
| schestowitz | msb_: ask MinceR | May 23 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Skype has a wormhole, with its botnets | May 23 00:09 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: ask MinceR about how to fix my ekiga? | May 23 00:10 |
| schestowitz | I'd be worried if skype was bought as leader in technical terms | May 23 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Downtown Freddy Brown - I Shot Bin Laden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6aaSkitig #parody #dtfb | May 23 00:10 | |
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| schestowitz | It's all just userbase and inertia | May 23 00:10 |
| schestowitz | msb_: no, why skype can overcome it | May 23 00:10 |
| schestowitz | he knows better than I do | May 23 00:10 |
| msb_ | overcome what? | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Skype will stay poprietar not because of encryption of patents | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | But because it's malicious | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | People would see what it does to their PC | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | It also pings every single person's _PC_ if s/he on your list | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | That's a big deterrence | May 23 00:11 |
| schestowitz | They need to have this information in some middleman like in IRC | May 23 00:12 |
| schestowitz | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/05/google-summer-of-code-where-are.html | May 23 00:13 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: Did you have to open all those holes in your firewall and router to make ekiga work? | May 23 00:14 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: The ekiga echo test works, sometimes, even without those ports opened. | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | msb_: I didn't have to change network settings, no | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | phoning.. | May 23 00:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] PBS Frontline's Tuesday show on WikiLeaks -- are they trying to implicate Assange in illegality? http://bit.ly/iIMJSp | May 23 00:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @mlinksva @ruiseabra haven't seen in WP, but I also hate GPL presented clickwrap style. Firefox 3.0.5+ "Know Your Rights" notice opti ... | May 23 00:32 | |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: I'm now getting no sound at all from you. | May 23 00:34 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Still seeing your video. | May 23 00:35 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Nice teeth. | May 23 00:35 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: No sound from you. I didn't change anything at this end. | May 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | yes, I messed about too much | May 23 00:36 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Can you hear me? | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | I can hear | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | my mixer | May 23 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Wuala: Secure Dropbox Alternative (Cross-Platform) http://is.gd/Rxn1oR | May 23 00:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @wayneborean Is that you in the video ? | May 23 00:40 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I can no longer see your address in ekiga. It appears and disappears randomly. | May 23 00:46 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Please tell me your sip address again. | May 23 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | two air conditioners | May 23 00:48 |
| *DaemonFC is ready this time | May 23 00:48 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: If it's schestowitz@ekiga.net it's saying you're not available. | May 23 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RS @threethirty @SarahKSilverman: Israel & Palestine forced to work together, realize they're not so different after all #buddymovieformula | May 23 00:50 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: Good luck with RMS! Better make sure he has earphones. | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I can't call either | May 23 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, GE makes the shittiest air conditioners | May 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | but it was a freebie | May 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 23 00:51 |
| msb_ | SIP really needs work! | May 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I think Linphone is probably the best replacement for Skype | May 23 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's got bling and uses open protocol (SIP) and is free software (client is GPL) | May 23 00:51 |
| msb_ | Ekiga seems to have more features. | May 23 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | and it works on Windows and Mac OS so there's no excuses for your friends to not use it | May 23 00:52 |
| msb_ | than Linphone. Both use SIP. | May 23 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | right, open standard like XMPP | May 23 00:52 |
| msb_ | Ekiga has a VU meter and pot for both mic and speaker. That is _very_ necessary! | May 23 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | free and open standards are more important than free software if you want to draw a line between them | May 23 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Operea is nonfree but it supports standards anyone can implement | May 23 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | *Opera | May 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | IE is nonfree and full of proprietary crap that is patent encumbered | May 23 00:54 |
| msb_ | But ekiga seem so be flaky in many respects. Various things in it work sometimes and not others. | May 23 00:54 |
| msb_ | I use only Firefox. | May 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll use Linphone because it doesn't require me to pay them in Euros if I want to call out to a landline or cell | May 23 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Ekiga did last I used it | May 23 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | probably, Ubuntu 6.10 | May 23 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | when they shipped standards instead of crap | May 23 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Idiots: "We want Skype!" | May 23 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu: "OK, drop Ekiga, recommend Skype" | May 23 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is tainted because Canonical is unethical | May 23 00:56 |
| msb_ | I want SIP and a SIP client that works as well as Skype! | May 23 00:57 |
| msb_ | On voice. I don't care about video. | May 23 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | They push Microsoft Windows API (through Mono) and recommend nonfree software that is tainted with nonfree protocols (Skype, soon to be Microsoft Skype | May 23 00:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @wayneborean Indeed, very good ;-) | May 23 01:08 | |
| DaemonFC | /home/ryan/Music/Alice in Chains/Dirt/11 - Angry Chair.ogg | May 23 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | a song about Ballmer? :) | May 23 01:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva People who are principled know when to stop. | May 23 01:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @wayneborean Only if by "just" you mean "without mercy" | May 23 01:25 | |
| schestowitz | is the chair angry? | May 23 01:26 |
| schestowitz | it might throw ballmer across the office | May 23 01:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @wayneborean It's people all do, yes. "Mercy" does not apply to non-personal entities. | May 23 01:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/5/2011: Zenwalk 7.0, Mozilla Firefox 5 Beta http://is.gd/IIYwyl !techrights | May 23 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 22/5/2011: Zenwalk 7.0, Mozilla Firefox 5 Beta http://is.gd/IIYwyl #techrights | May 23 02:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, Linphone is in Fedora's repository | May 23 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's certainly a lot smaller than Skype | May 23 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I got a SIP address | May 23 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | hooray | May 23 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | now I need to tweak linphone a little :P | May 23 02:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #KLM online checkin is broken in every possible way ATM. #FAIL | May 23 03:52 | |
| DaemonFC | working around some of the landlord's son's fine craftsmanship | May 23 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | drained at least an hour out of my life | May 23 03:53 |
| *DaemonFC mumbles and curses | May 23 03:53 | |
| DaemonFC | I told the landlord that from now on he can just save us both the trouble and not send his son over to fix things because I've forgotten more than that guy will ever know | May 23 03:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Which deinterlacer is best in !ffmpeg 2 !theora ? Linear blend, linear interpolating, cubic interpolating, median, ffmpeg, or FIR lowpass? | May 23 04:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Also, what is chrominance filtering? and luma filtering? so many options! | May 23 04:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono ubuntu member jono is here! | May 23 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | BACON!!! | May 23 04:22 |
| jono | howdy DaemonFC | May 23 04:22 |
| jono | what have I done wrong this time? :-) | May 23 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | nothing, you are practically perfect in every way :) | May 23 04:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Also, what is chrominance filtering? and luma filtering? so many options! !ffmpeg 2 !theora | May 23 04:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Also also, if i'm using high quality settings, do i still need/want to use deblocking and deringing filters? !ffmpeg 2 !theora | May 23 04:23 | |
| DaemonFC | jono@skype/ballmer/rules | May 23 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | jono, how about using some of that bacon power to promote SIP? | May 23 04:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra sounds like something designed to detect shapeshifters serupticiously attaching themselves as spies #DS9 #StarTrek | May 23 04:25 | |
| jono | DaemonFC, perfection is covered in Bacon | May 23 04:25 |
| jono | I think Ghandi said it once | May 23 04:25 |
| jono | <-- perfection | May 23 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | did they not also have pepper jack cheese back then? | May 23 04:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] does anyone run a simulated !its? I need at least teco/emacs and assembler tapes... | May 23 04:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @cwebber Latest !mediagoblin mockup from @schendje looks really nice I think. http://schendje.fedorapeople.org/goblin/photoTest.png | May 23 05:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] awright, caminus be THUMPING tonight. @tdfischer @willbradley and @caity_did are working on La Villa Strangiatto with me. :3 | May 23 05:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] woohoo, colleague now runs !Fedora Design Suite to do the t-shirt designs for @beijingtee /cc: !beijing !china | May 23 05:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora forgot to send you the blog post about @beijingtee using Design Suite: http://beijingtee.com/2011/05/22/got-it/ | May 23 05:30 | |
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| MinceR | msb_: unsure. maybe you can tell SIP to restrict the amount of ports to use. (looks like it only really listens on 5060 and opens the rest on demand, but i'm no SIP wizard) | May 23 06:16 |
| MinceR | also, SIP probably won't use the H.323 range :> | May 23 06:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Roy actually phoned me via SIP some hours ago and it worked! | May 23 06:17 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Without my opening any ports. | May 23 06:17 |
| msb_ | He said he doesn't either. | May 23 06:17 |
| msb_ | Then his sound quit. And then neither of us was able to call the other. | May 23 06:19 |
| msb_ | I wish we'd recorded that call somehow. It's probably the only time in my life that SIP will ever work! | May 23 06:19 |
| msb_ | If I had time I'd put a lot of diagnostic error and state printouts in ekiga so I could see what it was doing, or trying to do. But I have other things I need to do... | May 23 06:21 |
| MinceR | you might want to try other SIP software too | May 23 06:22 |
| msb_ | Linphone has fewer features, and I couldn't get it to work at all. The Jitsi rpm wouldn't load, and the source wouldn't compile. | May 23 06:23 |
| msb_ | I think almost everybody is using Skype, and SIP is receiving very little dev time. | May 23 06:24 |
| MinceR | that's possible | May 23 06:24 |
| msb_ | But when ms actually buys skype, I'm going to be reluctant to use it. It would be like stepping in shit. | May 23 06:25 |
| msb_ | Microsoft is so evil. $100,000,000 for the SCO lawsuit. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually have murdered people, like in _Antitrust_. | May 23 06:27 |
| MinceR | apparently a SIP-aware router doesn't need to keep all the ports forwarded at all time, but probably most aren't SIP-aware | May 23 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I gave up and installed Ekiga | May 23 06:34 |
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| tessier_ | I really like SIP. I really dislike NAT. | May 23 07:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.38.7-libre sources have been available for a few hours now, pushing !gnewsense !yeeloong binaries in a bit | May 23 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @miguelsvieira: ♺ @linobocchini não precisa fumar para defender lei ... maconha. Como não precisa ser gay para defender a união civil | May 23 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "It is not about face, but faith" :-o | May 23 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Ready to fly to Luxembourg. !FSFE and #samba in court for setting the record straight on #interoperability. | May 23 07:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Why do they start boarding 25 passengers 40 minutes before departure and leave them in the sun on a bus w/o AC for 25 minutes? | May 23 07:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Hotel.info advertises special section w/ only hotels offering #freewifi connection. Still makes sense, alas. Think if #freecleanbedsheets | May 23 07:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Finally getting around to reading the LWN interview with Shuttleworth. He comes across very patronising. Not to use stronger words.... | May 23 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !ManUtd League Champions in 1908 and 2008 as well as League Champions ins 1911 and 2011. | May 23 07:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Shuttleworth says copyright assignments will "weaken Canonical and strengthen the community". Masterful spin. Oo | May 23 07:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. Shuttleworth is denouncing idealists as "ideologues". That reminds me of a book on Stalin I once read..... Oo | May 23 07:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Fundamentalists" now too. Man, this guy talks like a politician of the worst kind.... | May 23 08:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh hey, isn't this the guy who founded some distro to be a fully free, easy to use debian? not that it went anywhere.... | May 23 08:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love Shuttleworth ripping on GTK. Has he looked at his distro ever? That's the only thing they were using for years! | May 23 08:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: Opera 11 for MeeGo tablet here: http://labs.opera.com/news/2011/03/22/ #meegoconf | May 23 08:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: A round up of our Application Lab at the MeeGo Conference, if you missed it, register for our ne... http://fb.me/tKYRJ5DC | May 23 08:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: QML Sudokumaster for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7271 #N900 #Maemo | May 23 08:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opera Mobile 11 for Maemo, MeeGo and Windows .::. Size~: 5.6 KB | May 23 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MeeGo / AppUp AppLab Aims to Train 1000′s in 2011 | MeeGo News .::. Size~: 46.07 KB | May 23 08:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My-Maemo ~ Nokia N900 ~ My-Meego / Software & News .::. Size~: 30.06 KB | May 23 08:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In essence Shuttleworth is saying we need to give up freedom to "get anywhere in the world." | May 23 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Thanks for joining us for our successful #MeeGo Application Labs today! Find out about future... http://intel.ly/lZ3rXI | May 23 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: NICE!!! RT @TheHandHeldBlog The Intel AppUp Application Lab in progress. #MeeGoConf http://yfrog.com/gz5odlyj | May 23 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] So why not have the balls to say that outright instead of hiding behing garden analogies and denouncing his critics? | May 23 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Mark Guim: MeeGo Conference Day 0 Preview http://dlvr.it/SdBJM #MeeGoConf | May 23 08:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4 Today's #MeeGoConf photos http://flic.kr/groups/meegoconf2011/ (add your own) #PySide slides mostly ready. Next stop: Hacker Lounge | May 23 08:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Participate and Learn at our Developer Events | Intel AppUp(SM) developer program .::. Size~: 153.14 KB | May 23 08:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/gz5odlyj Shared by TheHandheldBlog .::. Size~: 30.51 KB | May 23 08:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: LXer: MeeGo Tablet UX Can Already Run On Wayland? http://nowskip.to/m4PzwV | May 23 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jaffa2: RT @timsamoff: Some @maemo peeps at a #meegoconf-style dinner at @thestinkingrose. http://twitpic.com/51dp63 | May 23 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] karma's a bitch, Sony! maybe some DRM would help you out here? yeah, didn't think so. http://ur1.ca/497tb | May 23 08:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LXer: MeeGo Tablet UX Can Already Run On Wayland? .::. Size~: 14.05 KB | May 23 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Some @maemo peeps at a #meegoconf-style dinner at @thestinkin... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 13.31 KB | May 23 08:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sony Music Greece Falls To Hackers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 133.38 KB | May 23 08:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Partido Pirata elege na Catalunha ... Resultados provisionales - Elecciones Municipales 2011 - Mataró - http://ur1.ca/497tc | May 23 08:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck me. Shuttleworth is on Larry's side in the OpenOffice debacle? And he claims to understand the "community"? WTF!? | May 23 08:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Resultados provisionales - Elecciones Municipales 2011 - Mataró .::. Size~: 19.85 KB | May 23 08:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] They had a gun to my face and a knife in my back, don't wind me up too tight. | May 23 08:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love how LWN is looking past all the Stalinisms and talks admiringly of "Shuttleworth's vision". Jesus Christ, LWN! | May 23 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I sometimes think more people in the F/OSS world should study history or politics. People are obviously not seeing what's going on. | May 23 08:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I really think we need more historians in F/OSS. And by that I mean proper history, not @bkuhn < 30 years programming "history". ;) | May 23 08:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Radio Telescopes Capture Best-Ever Snapshot of Black Hole Jets - http://bit.ly/j0otT9 amazing pic (v @DavidBrin1 @mpesce) #astronomy | May 23 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I still have no clue what a "rowche" is.... Oo | May 23 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 176 million downloads on 2011-05-23 07:12 UTC | May 23 08:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Radio telescopes capture best-ever snapshot of black hole jets .::. Size~: 52.85 KB | May 23 08:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Going faster doesn't help if you go in the wrong direction." - love this comment on the LWN article. Exactly my feelings. | May 23 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh it's what #ScoobyDoo says when he gets hurt, obviously | May 23 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @roningirl: Support EU Cities & Regions at the Digital Assembly by LIKING your favorite Local Govt ICT Project! http://bit.ly/VoteLoc ... | May 23 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Maps .::. Size~: 2.75 KB | May 23 08:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox Developers Looking for Testers Willing to Join the Aurora Channel - http://bit.ly/mkQqS9 could it be you? #mozilla | May 23 08:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Maximum PC | Firefox Developers Looking for Testers Willing to Join the Aurora Channel .::. Size~: 93.69 KB | May 23 08:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Tarkovsky's Polaroid #pix - http://bit.ly/k53Md5 exactly as you would expect... | May 23 08:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Interesting discussion on that LWN article. | May 23 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ROFL. :D "This rare free (as in time)" - @methoddan | May 23 08:45 | |
| MinceR | geekings | May 23 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Cinema chains dimming movies "up to 85%" on digital projectors - http://bit.ly/kZopJc #DRM probably to blame | May 23 09:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC #Libya coverage like so much foreign coverage 99% government line. The 1% so a BBC executive can say they are critical sometimes #fail | May 23 09:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cinema chains dimming movies "up to 85%" on digital projectors - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 90.07 KB | May 23 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Starting the day with a #nescafé | May 23 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: #Zeitgeist’s new rockstars http://goo.gl/izgnY | May 23 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The always-expanding bipartisan #Surveillance State - http://bit.ly/maKmAL incredibly worrying, with bit knock-on effects everywhere #us | May 23 09:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Zeitgeist’s new rockstars « GeekyOgre .::. Size~: 16.62 KB | May 23 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The always-expanding bipartisan Surveillance State - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 84.35 KB | May 23 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: CyanogenMod lets users select which permissions !Android apps can access [Video] http://goo.gl/6nGb3 | May 23 09:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Androinica » CyanogenMod lets users select which permissions Android apps can access [Video] .::. Size~: 47.06 KB | May 23 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alex Chiang: !uds-o, #budapest scenery edition http://goo.gl/V3vrl | May 23 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Aphex Twin "Selected Ambient works" (not vol 2). | May 23 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: alex chiang: web 6.0 » uds-o, budapest scenery edition .::. Size~: 18.96 KB | May 23 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU #copyright policy smacks of censorship, argue critics - http://bit.ly/iN34Hs disgraceful perversion, putting monopolies above liberty | May 23 09:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU copyright policy smacks of censorship, argue critics | EurActiv .::. Size~: 121.82 KB | May 23 09:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The costs of futility: a footballer’s guide to Twitter - http://bit.ly/imWniu ha! | May 23 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Work on a free software GPRS/EDGE stack! - http://bit.ly/lAf5W4 important projects needs help #mobile #freesw | May 23 09:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Memex 1.1 » Blog Archive » The costs of futility: a footballer’s guide to Twitter .::. Size~: 18.91 KB | May 23 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Work on a free software GPRS/EDGE stack! — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.19 KB | May 23 09:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hackathon Winner Docracy Is A GitHub For Legal Documents - http://tcrn.ch/lxDCqU "open source site to share and sign legal documents" | May 23 09:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hackathon Winner Docracy Is A GitHub For Legal Documents .::. Size~: 52.93 KB | May 23 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Human Rights Commission Asked to Audit Trans-Pacific Partnership - http://bit.ly/jOExcY nice move: but will it? #tpp #acta | May 23 09:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Human Rights Commission Asked to Audit Trans-Pacific Partnership « TPP Watch .::. Size~: 23.16 KB | May 23 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] What? The Event cancelled? Idiots. | May 23 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Is CentOS Not Open Enough? http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/centos-not-open-enough/ | May 23 09:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is CentOS Not Open Enough? .::. Size~: 28.7 KB | May 23 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @th3k4ty: hello identi.ca! i am maja! :) i'm am the product of th3k4tys tamagotchi cells! http://ur1.ca/4982n | May 23 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/th3k4ty-20110523T074352-fwsk68l.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.48 KB | May 23 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The e-G8: Promises and Problems - http://bit.ly/jeRAJ4 the Digital Axis of Evil? #eg8 #censorship #copyright | May 23 09:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jillian C. York » The e-G8: Promises and Problems .::. Size~: 32.18 KB | May 23 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @lxnews Is CentOS Not Open Enough? http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/centos-not-open-enough/ | May 23 09:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China detains 300 Tibetan monks after self-immolation incident - http://bit.ly/k4T2Jc "Chinese police beat the [burning] young monk" #tibet | May 23 09:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is CentOS Not Open Enough? .::. Size~: 28.7 KB | May 23 09:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China detains 300 Tibetan monks after self-immolation incident | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 89.16 KB | May 23 09:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The UK court system just officially announced that they don't get the Internet or modern life in general for that matter: http://outl.ws/18 | May 23 09:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Report Warns of Harmful Effects of Cell Phone Useage http://is.gd/XcnlaT no worries.Big telecoms, like Big Oil, will pay researchers now | May 23 09:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter asked to stop users from gossiping, then gets sued .::. Size~: 35.68 KB | May 23 09:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Report Warns of Harmful Effects of Cell Phone Useage | C-SPAN .::. Size~: 45.37 KB | May 23 09:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I do not overplay the health angle because people are emotional about it http://is.gd/8jSk2H left a gym when they installed antenna on roof | May 23 09:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Critique of Mobile Phones Culture .::. Size~: 39.74 KB | May 23 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge has "serious questions" about #Righthaven, halts all Colorado cases http://is.gd/WsHZd5 #copyright #troll | May 23 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Firefox 5 (Beta Channel) !Ubuntu !PPA http://goo.gl/r26LD | May 23 09:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge has "serious questions" about Righthaven, halts all Colorado cases .::. Size~: 35.88 KB | May 23 09:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firefox 5 (Beta Channel) Ubuntu PPA ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.08 KB | May 23 09:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Ars(e) Technica is complaining about shoddy science reporting? Most I've seen lately was from them! | May 23 09:48 | |
| schestowitz | "On the speculation of the funding behind Xamarin, de Icaza says his fledgling company currently has two committed angels, neither of which is Microsoft, and he's providing some of the initial funding himself. "I'm not going to rule out that I'd like to have Microsoft as an angel investor," de Icaza told me. "We have talked to a lot of people at the company, and they do like us. But for that matter, I wouldn't mind having Google and | May 23 09:50 |
| schestowitz | eBay and RedHat and eTrade and Novell. We're pitching to everybody who will listen right now."" | May 23 09:50 |
| schestowitz | http://adtmag.com/blogs/watersworks/2011/05/interview-with-miguel-de-icaza.aspx | May 23 09:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with Miguel de Icaza: Xamarin, Attachmate Layoffs, Future of Mono, More -- Application Development Trends .::. Size~: 95.13 KB | May 23 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jon Stewart is awesome. That is all. | May 23 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cut red #meat intake and don't eat ham, say #cancer researchers - http://bit.ly/iX56vd 850-page report...sounds credible | May 23 10:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cut red meat intake and don't eat ham, say cancer researchers | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 230.17 KB | May 23 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeSBIE : Is Devil Live or Dead? http://is.gd/8rXYSp "I had previous experience with another "dead" project: BerliOS." #bsd | May 23 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux notes from DarkDuck: FreeSBIE: Is Devil Live or Dead? .::. Size~: 91.79 KB | May 23 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introduction to #gnu #Linux Desktop Environment http://is.gd/0ETx3J "overview of some of the most famous Desktop Environment of Linux..." | May 23 10:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @muktware: Science Behind Controversial Design Decisions in Unity http://bit.ly/iu7sLq | May 23 10:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Introduction to Linux Desktop Environment .::. Size~: 37.82 KB | May 23 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Controversial Design Decisions in Unity - Slashdot .::. Size~: 35.79 KB | May 23 10:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox Developers Looking for Testers Willing to Join the Aurora Channel http://is.gd/MU0J6g maybe I'll install Firefox 5 beta today... | May 23 10:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Maximum PC | Firefox Developers Looking for Testers Willing to Join the Aurora Channel .::. Size~: 96.88 KB | May 23 10:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Transmission 2.31 released, hits !PPA http://goo.gl/oaseg | May 23 10:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Transmission 2.31 released, hits PPA .::. Size~: 34.04 KB | May 23 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shahi - http://bit.ly/jcH5eO "Shahi is a visual #dictionary that combines #Wiktionary content with #Flickr images, and more!" clever | May 23 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] It Just Keeps Getting Worse for Sony http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/getting-worse-for-sony/ | May 23 10:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shahi - A visual dictionary | Blachan Lab .::. Size~: 5.27 KB | May 23 10:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It Just Keeps Getting Worse for Sony .::. Size~: 28.54 KB | May 23 10:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Created a new Wikipedia page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Based_Slideshow | May 23 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Domain seizures: it’s good to talk http://is.gd/IPzlL2 I registered two "co.uk" domain names this month. ICE made .net, .com, .org dangerous | May 23 10:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Web Based Slideshow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 27.62 KB | May 23 10:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Rights Group | Eco-labs.org raises money to fight .::. Size~: 10.9 KB | May 23 10:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Snow Leopard Font Update Requires Reboot http://is.gd/H4DnkK for those who insist on using a Toy OS. #apple #OSuX | May 23 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Root Access Means No Movie Rentals for You! http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/root-means-no-movie-rentals/ | May 23 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Snow Leopard Font Update Requires Reboot | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 21.6 KB | May 23 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Root Access Means No Movie Rentals for You! .::. Size~: 27.47 KB | May 23 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DeutscheBank Goes After Whistleblower’s Son http://is.gd/eg2C1O Banksters. Because truth tellers & family -- not greedy banks -- are bad? | May 23 10:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Deutsche Bank Goes After Whistleblower’s Son | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 52.07 KB | May 23 10:35 |
| amarsh04 | back in a few, trying a new kernel | May 23 10:36 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | May 23 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kimberly-Clark Must Face Monopoly Claim http://is.gd/EnsI08 monopoly to elevate the price of baby poop. Who benefits from patents? | May 23 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Thomas: #Muon Suite 1.2 Beta Released http://goo.gl/hiiu7 !kubuntu | May 23 10:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Courthouse News Service .::. Size~: 15.62 KB | May 23 10:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Muon Suite 1.2 Beta Released « Jonathan's Blog .::. Size~: 31.12 KB | May 23 10:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @th3k4ty hello identi.ca! i am maja! :) i'm am the product of th3k4tys tamagotchi cells! http://ur1.ca/4982n | May 23 10:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/th3k4ty-20110523T074352-fwsk68l.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.66 KB | May 23 10:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 406 released. http://goo.gl/ppnME This week's feature story: #OpenIndiana - there's still hope | May 23 10:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 91.76 KB | May 23 10:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Android Fails to Authenticate over SSL, Vulnerable to Attack http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/android-vulnerable-to-attack/ | May 23 10:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Fails to Authenticate over SSL, Vulnerable to Attack .::. Size~: 29.86 KB | May 23 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Done with news research for !LO. Now doing some uni work..... | May 23 10:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @lxnews Android Fails to Authenticate over SSL, Vulnerable to Attack http://lxnews.org/2011/05/23/android-vulnerable-to-attack/ | May 23 11:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android Fails to Authenticate over SSL, Vulnerable to Attack .::. Size~: 29.86 KB | May 23 11:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Phonehacking: Prescott stuns Westminster by winning judicial review - http://bit.ly/m1MVvv (v @DavidAllenGreen @martinjemoore @iandunt) | May 23 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Prescott wins judicial review into phone hacking - politics.co.uk .::. Size~: 46.69 KB | May 23 11:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coalition builds new national #identity system - http://bit.ly/lhlsGa as the No2ID man says: “the devil will be in the details" #uk | May 23 11:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Coalition builds new national identity system - Telegraph .::. Size~: 69.88 KB | May 23 11:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Privacy & free speech - http://bit.ly/mo75zj "We don't expect lovers to have installed surveillance, should always expect they might gossip" | May 23 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slightly Right of Centre: Privacy and free speech .::. Size~: 77.68 KB | May 23 11:50 |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | May 23 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Software AG acquires open source caching experts Terracotta - http://bit.ly/ldYFvy now let's see how they treat it... #opensource | May 23 11:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software AG acquires open source caching experts Terracotta - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.9 KB | May 23 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks-Assange TED talk now in 38 languages http://is.gd/1PFVYm | May 23 11:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange: Why the world needs WikiLeaks | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 98.55 KB | May 23 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Missed our fun-packed IRC session on Friday? Have a gander at the full logs here: http://tinyurl.com/3vcuo2g | May 23 12:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The full story: Friday's IRC chat | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 170.88 KB | May 23 12:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Should Gnome become Linux-only? Let us know your opinions for our next podcast open ballot! http://tinyurl.com/3halux5 | May 23 12:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Ballot: Should Gnome become Linux-only? | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 14.96 KB | May 23 12:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: “Inconstant Moon” ~ update: Libreleft Books Blog ... http://ur1.ca/4999z | May 23 12:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: “Inconstant Moon” ~ update: Libreleft Books Blog « Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 56.63 KB | May 23 12:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] So, to quote the Beatles... "Hello, goodbye" !Identiverse | May 23 12:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launch of the Centre for Innovation in OSS in Rhône Alpes region - http://bit.ly/mKEoai Pôle d'Innovation en Logiciels Libres - PILL #france | May 23 12:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @quail hehe, !Linux World Map - http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2011_1/linux-world-map-large.png | May 23 12:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FR: Launch of the Centre for Innovation in OSS creates synergy between the PLOSS Association of the Rhône Alpes region and the Tarare municipality — .::. Size~: 32.25 KB | May 23 12:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Schoolgirl wins right to use iPod in exams: can't concentrate unless listening to music - http://bit.ly/iUaABY bonkers (v @copyrightgirl) | May 23 12:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schoolgirl wins the right to listen to her iPod during exams - because she can only concentrate listening to music | Mail Online .::. Size~: 123.44 KB | May 23 12:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gates Monitor: January 2011 on Education http://is.gd/QlzZ9N nothing has changed. Having distorted the OEM channel, now doing same @ edu | May 23 12:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] USS Carl Vinson, the aircraft carrier that performed the sea burial of Osama bin Laden, is in Hong Kong since yesterday. http://ur1.ca/499dg | May 23 12:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RDFa 1.1 with a rich snippet example http://ow.ly/1cONSP | May 23 12:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Practicing what I preach. Raw data from my TweetChat (1112 questions!) http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/tweet-chat/ | May 23 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Highlights from !Linaro Technical Showcase http://goo.gl/Deo9K | May 23 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: The !linuxoutlaws show today will be at 3pm UK / 4pm Central Europe. Please spread the word :) | May 23 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: in fact it was 1112 responses to #AskNeelie, not all were questions. thx @ccbuhr | May 23 13:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Invitation Demo Flame Party Helsinki https://mozillalabs.com/blog/2011/05/invitation-demo-flame-party-helsinki/ | May 23 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: EU researchers set data transfer record: 26 terabits (700 DVDs) per second!! http://bbc.in/ivmMRz | May 23 13:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @hoxbot @monkchips email my assistant details bettina.zinterl@ec.europa.eu | May 23 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google blocks Android movie rentals from rooted devices, blames #DRM - http://bit.ly/iUQYvl how that #openness coming along, #google? | May 23 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SD Times: “Attachmate (a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner) buys Novell. Microsoft gives gobs of money to Attachmate.” http://is.gd/CBbdU7 | May 23 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Gates Monitor: January 2011 on Education http://is.gd/QlzZ9N | May 23 13:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] “Attachmate (a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner) buys Novell. Microsoft gives gobs of money to Attachmate.” http://is.gd/CBbdU7 #mono | May 23 13:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mono wiki about to hit 20,000 non-cached pageloads http://is.gd/E2yXvb | May 23 13:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Manhattan Project Considered as a Fluke - http://bit.ly/m5eyvC it's easier to make things go bang? #innovation | May 23 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "TeK > Multimédia > Lady Gaga faz anúncio para Google Chrome" http://ur1.ca/499ql One more reason to not use #google's #chrome!! | May 23 13:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] One more reason to not use #google's #chrome!!! http://ur1.ca/499ql | May 23 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] India's unwanted girls http://is.gd/9WKyaW | May 23 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: The Manhattan Project Considered as a Fluke - http://bit.ly/m5eyvC it's easier to make things go bang? #innovation | May 23 13:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Mono wiki about to hit 20,000 non-cached pageloads http://is.gd/E2yXvb | May 23 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @boycottnovell: Gates Monitor: January 2011 on Education http://is.gd/QlzZ9N | May 23 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Touchdown in Berlin. A whole week of @kolabsys meetings ahead. Chance to meet some old friends included. | May 23 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Recording Device Censorship http://ur1.ca/499hx | May 23 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Schoolgirl wins right to use iPod in exams: can't concentrate unless listening to music - http://bit.ly/iUaABY bonkers... | May 23 13:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @brunomiguel: Não admira que a lady gaga se vista como veste. Com uma cara daquelas, convém andar com ela pelo menos meio tapada. | May 23 13:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia Checking out a v cool Qt-based settopbox called the Freebox6 aka Freebox Revolution. (article is in French) http://ow.ly/50CrW | May 23 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @Marja_P: Getting out the data, blog by Neelie Kroes @NeelieKroesEU http://bit.ly/jacxZk She asks open data examples & ideas; use #o ... | May 23 13:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !CoffeeScript is what we all wished !JavaScript should have been... it makes it a lot more entertaining (pythonic) to write ;-) | May 23 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Elephant in the Patents Room http://is.gd/KhHrRg #swpats #ibm #hadoop #google #apple #cartel #monopoly | May 23 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Elephant in the Patents Room http://is.gd/KhHrRg #linux #foss #mobbyists #astroturf | May 23 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Video: Justin Frankel on Software Patents; New EPO Propaganda Videos http://is.gd/g9GgKC #epo #monopoly #barnier #eu | May 23 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Justin Frankel on Software Patents; New EPO Propaganda Videos http://is.gd/g9GgKC #swpats #protectionism #math | May 23 13:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @Werner: Cloud computing meeting with @NeelieKroesEU - http://moby.to/14993z | May 23 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @mlinksva "We’ve come to understand that anything EULA-like is !disturbing" http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/09/16/firefox-without ... | May 23 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] A counter-response: Education in 2030 | http://red.ht/kyOVGg #opensource #FOSS #community | May 23 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @mole #minecraft 1.6 due later this week #miners | May 23 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Goddamnit !Java http://ur1.ca/49a3n | May 23 14:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @notriddle @lxnews two seconds for me to break it. mv su su.bak ; market ; mv su.bak su | May 23 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - Qt SDK Update bringing Qt Creator 2.2 released http://ow.ly/1cOUJM | May 23 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - Gerrit joined the Qt Creator project! - Please give a warm welcome to Gerrit, the new... http://ow.ly/1cOUJN | May 23 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @allaboutmeego: Linpus updates its #MeeGo products to 1.2 http://dlvr.it/ShfLhb | May 23 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ave/@ave] hopa | May 23 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RichardBacon doing his best hack impression, repeated efforts to try & get trash talk from #DowntownAbby about the #BAFTA #Essex win #5Live | May 23 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Why not build a normal site with, you know, text, images and links. Your use case is NOT SPECIAL, you are a bleeding restaurant directory! | May 23 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @tux2 [Video] Google im Jahr 1999: So sahen Besprechungen aus :-) - AndroidPIT - http://ur1.ca/49abr | May 23 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Shell Weather Extension http://goo.gl/v0Tnm | May 23 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff The Document Foundation announces the members of the Engineering Steering Committee: http://is.gd/qbyeop !libo !tdf | May 23 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ara Pulido: Given Enough Eyeballs, Not All Bugs Are Shallow http://goo.gl/3QLor | May 23 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Advert team survey http://goo.gl/ssQZT | May 23 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Document Foundation announces the Engineering Steering Committee: http://wmk.me/kjaW2C [Good, diverse, experienced group] | May 23 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] woke up an hour earlier than usual due to #meegoconf and now I get to listen to !lo live with my coffee | May 23 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @rackerhacker Fedora 15 drops tomorrow! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/Schedule | May 23 15:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Cool! :D | May 23 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Argh. Just had to tell another dimwit that Android is Linux. | May 23 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @eebrah: RD: @fedora: RT @rackerhacker Fedora 15 drops tomorrow! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/15/Schedule cc @RamanusAsango | May 23 15:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean true, guys like spending time with guys, but they also love going home to the girlfriend / wife, without women that ceases | May 23 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gillard's office deleted intelligence agency data on Assange before FOIA release http://is.gd/j8gl2D | May 23 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vinzv: I just got mentioned on #lo. Mission accomplished for today. | May 23 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh giving a new meaning to "another show, in the can" | May 23 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Hahahaha! | May 23 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Linux.com gives 7.5 reasons to look forward to Fedora 15: http://2tu.us/3cb3 | May 23 16:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux wireless support education videos http://lwn.net/Articles/444246/rss | May 23 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @yamanickill: Ehhh, should I worry about this? http://95.172.2.219/stuff/nybill.png !miners (@nybill) | May 23 16:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Caution on that "Call for Caution on Open Source" - http://bit.ly/jkQEOu I think some of you may enjoy this one... #fud #guardian | May 23 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The first Calligra snapshot release http://lwn.net/Articles/444251/rss | May 23 16:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just had Global Menu Rage on !LO. | May 23 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jwf90: not at #meegoconf? they're streaming the keynote & a few sessions here http://goo.gl/8fuyg (via @markguim) | May 23 16:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I should really head to #meegocon soon http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110523 #sip_and_click | May 23 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @wwwwolf: I'm going to to not touch !minecraft for a few days. "Just a few minutes to fix a couple of things" → hour gone. Can't do that. | May 23 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @bkuhn @fabsh on !lo live show today:"I'm only going to use proprietary software that works well. If I'm going to be #evil, I'll be e ... | May 23 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @eebrah: RD: @nj3ma: RT @mashablemedia: Lady Gaga Sells Entire New Album for $0.99 on Amazon - http://on.mash.to/mf7LxU | May 23 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Time for some C programming! | May 23 16:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Second FABRAGE of the night. *breathes slowly* !LO | May 23 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @idolrevolver: !minecraft beta 1.6 coming out Wednesday or Thursday! From http://twitter.com/#!/notch | May 23 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] You would think that given Family Radio has $104mill in assets, they would not have a website from 1998 - http://www.familyradio.com/ | May 23 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Aslett: Opening up the Open Source Initiative http://lwn.net/Articles/444260/rss | May 23 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] London, May 24: The case of Bradley Manning http://alturl.com/9snnm | May 23 17:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: Notch: "Aaaand I just nerfed fire. It will no longer spread infinitely." You're all safe... for now. !miners #windigoburnstheser | May 23 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: MeeGo for N900 Developer Edition for #meegoconf is released: http://wiki.meego.com/N900 #N900 | May 23 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the internet remake of #Misery "I'm your number one follower"? #humour #fb | May 23 17:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @chippy: Counting up the demos in the #meegoconf tech showcase, 80% are running on Intel. Significant? | May 23 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Liquid data and the health information economy: Is 2011 finally the year? | http://red.ht/jz2b5J #EHR #health20 #openstandards | May 23 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] lubuntu on track to official status as Ubuntu flavour http://tinyurl.com/4xljbvx | May 23 17:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: @fabsh I think that should be in urban dictionary. "Global menu rage" :D | May 23 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Identi.ca is certainly the place to come to get discouraged any time one attempts to do good stuff. | May 23 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love it when people blame identica because they get criticism. What is it with people who can't stand criticism? Grow a FUCKING SPINE! | May 23 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Or join the Yes-Men on Twitter and talk Bieber and Gaga all day. That's clearly more AWESOME and COMMUNITY. | May 23 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] :D ♺ @maloki: I HAS TICKET! FOR OGGCAMP!! \o/ WOHoop :D | May 23 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] gotta love MPs cynically using loopholes in a calculated manor to avoid having to obey the same laws as the rest of us #RyanGiggs | May 23 17:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sdanna: @mbjunior I'm all for wasting time on the internet, but why waste time on one of the internets most pointless debates? | May 23 17:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] India starts trade talks with African countries in effort to rival China - http://bit.ly/l3xdM1 human rights likely to go out of the window | May 23 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @euroced @DigitalAgendaEU Videos welcome in all languages #daa11eu - but working language of the conf is EN.... | May 23 17:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables push US-Pakistan relations to the brink according to ABC news http://is.gd/e1SMvh | May 23 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter accounts for 1 in every 184 UK Internet visits online - http://bit.ly/mRNCfF punching above its weight | May 23 17:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Photos of Kings of War demo day -- http://ur1.ca/49bj7 -- from Saturday at @pandybooks | May 23 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @MeeGoConference: The #MeeGoConf keynote with Jim Zemlin starts in 15 minutes and will be live streamed here: http://bit.ly/kbTGYK !linux | May 23 18:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Arduino Store Opens - http://bit.ly/kHPLJW great move - the ecosystem grows apace #openhardware | May 23 18:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hurt Locker Makers Target Record Breaking 24,583 #BitTorrent Users - http://bit.ly/jIxxQ6 they really know how to make friends | May 23 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #FSF version of influencing people by getting in their faces, lecturing them, belittling them never works, it only pisses people off | May 23 18:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senate debate on #PATRIOTAct starts at 3 pm ET, watch live at https://eff.org/r.56A, Washington Post preview at https://eff.org/r.45B | May 23 18:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget The #Streisand Effect, I Think We've Seen The Dawning Of The Giggs Effect - http://bit.ly/j7kThj as originator, @mmasnick should know | May 23 18:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Forget The Streisand Effect, I Think We've Seen The Dawning Of The Giggs Effect | Techdirt .::. Size~: 60.06 KB | May 23 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm SERIOUSLY getting #pissedoff with #Firefox4 I've been trying to get it NOT to steal all my CPU & RAM for 15mins now, 3xkills & counting | May 23 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lady Gaga Sells Entire New Album for $0.99 on Amazon - http://on.mash.to/iGYTpR *that's* how you compete with free... #abundance | May 23 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Universal Music: We Need PROTECT IP Because Musicians Are Dying! - http://bit.ly/lGWHkA surely, it's much more serious than that... | May 23 18:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon Looks To Build Full-Fledged Publishing House - http://on.mash.to/mg8w1u publishers: be afraid, be very afraid #ebooks | May 23 18:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] pity LadyGaga wasn't the one in the #RyanGiggs story, the baby like legal efforts would suit a #RyanGaga tag | May 23 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ACLU+EFF: Who ratted on WikiLeaks? http://is.gd/J0tqDI | May 23 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] this is the kind of coffee I would serve to someone I don't like. chair is comfy. #meegocon | May 23 18:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @eebrah: @coyo Just wish everyone would stop being so damn sensitive. State your point and accept that others may not like what you say | May 23 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Has #Canonical Convinced Linux Users to Pay for Applications? - http://bit.ly/loFCbZ #smartphone #apps may make that easier | May 23 18:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @andyc: Giggs playing away, eh ? Imogen that... | May 23 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe #RyanGiggs misunderstood what #Anonymous was about, & just wanted to be one of them | May 23 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Billy Joe Shaver and throwing some sausages on the barbie. Slim Chance and the Can't Hardly Playboys FTW! | May 23 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: The Gangs of Karachi http://alturl.com/v8mmv | May 23 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean they call it whatever they want, the arrogant tired old bullshit lecturing people is tedious & annoying, it's not about right | May 23 18:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean if you want to influence people, you first act in a way that doesn't alienate & annoy them, do that & you lose by default | May 23 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @cancivlib: Media Advisory: CCLA To Intervene In Ashley Smith Inquest On Tuesday http://bit.ly/l4wXad | May 23 18:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean what else? part of "freedom" is the freedom to call it whatever you like, but apparently that doesn't compute | May 23 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks comes to Malaysia via Malaysia Today & Asia Sentinal http://malaysia-today.net/ http://is.gd/LB7xTj | May 23 18:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Damn, I don't have a charger for my n810 #lame | May 23 18:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Get A Minimalistic, Wingpanel-Like XFCE4 Setup in !Xubuntu http://goo.gl/j45Jb | May 23 18:53 | |
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| schestowitz | back.. | May 23 18:56 |
| schestowitz | gde33: hi, new here? | May 23 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @dcthomas: the cat peed on my computer and killed the 2nd video output, also we're out of the good !coffee #happymonday | May 23 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean who knows | May 23 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] been trying for about 30mins to block him, Firefox went nuts 5 times in a row on that same page, Chromium did the same | May 23 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rsuplido: I'll be uploading #MeeGoConf pics as they happen, as I get the time: http://t.co/XPvccTl | May 23 19:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: With so many people trying to watch the keynote, we're having a few issues with the Live Stream. Should be back soon. | May 23 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference: Videos for all #MeeGoConf sessions, including the keynote will also be posted after the conference. | May 23 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] My blog post about the !Ubuntu !PowerUsers: http://goo.gl/yfjA6 | May 23 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoConference We are facing live stream difficulties with our streaming server. We will be posting the Keynote recording asap. Our... | May 23 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 177 million downloads on 2011-05-23 18:07 UTC | May 23 19:12 | |
| gde33 | schestowitz: hi | May 23 19:14 |
| gde33 | schestowitz: what is this place? | May 23 19:14 |
| gde33 | schestowitz: I've been here a while now | May 23 19:14 |
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| MinceR | it's an irc channel | May 23 19:15 |
| MinceR | :> | May 23 19:15 |
| gde33 | oh cool | May 23 19:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: On stage now is Tsuguo Nobe from Nissan - Car needs a internet connection #IVI #meegoconf http://yfrog.com/h2hegwjj | May 23 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nissan chose MeeGo as it is going in the right sirection for IVI - Tsuguo Nobe #MeeGoConf | May 23 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: 2 days to go before all EU Member States have to implement new EU telecom rules http://bit.ly/iO5Xhx #DigitalAgenda | May 23 19:15 | |
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| gde33 | I just happen to have an irc client | May 23 19:15 |
| gde33 | what conincience | May 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | :-) | May 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | ours was on autojoin I take it | May 23 19:16 |
| MinceR | :> | May 23 19:16 |
| gde33 | I don't remember exactly, I was prommised a communist plot here I believe | May 23 19:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you got me addicted to of images to op | May 23 19:17 |
| schestowitz | oops | May 23 19:17 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | May 23 19:17 |
| gde33 | hey | May 23 19:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/ | May 23 19:17 |
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| MinceR | lol | May 23 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | gde33: none found here, ask for a refund ;-) | May 23 19:18 |
| MinceR | hey, at least it isn't http://tvtropes.org/ | May 23 19:18 |
| MinceR | oops | May 23 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | hi _Goblin | May 23 19:18 |
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| gde33 | schestowitz: dont worry I just discovered ##marxism | May 23 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Pre-Unity Ubuntu Netbook Launcher is resurrected; put in a !PPA http://goo.gl/iUpIE | May 23 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean I must be unlucky then, tried clearing cache & try again, that's a total of 7 in a row now ALL on that page | May 23 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Nautilus Elementary Ambiance Theme + Orange Themed Clarity Icons = Looks Nice in !Unity http://goo.gl/qYVXb | May 23 19:18 | |
| *MinceR fully expects Troll2070 to be there | May 23 19:18 | |
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| _Goblin | MinceR, Troll2070? | May 23 19:19 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/7sPph.png | May 23 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | May 23 19:19 |
| _Goblin | dont tell me one of the COLA wintrolls has finally dared to chat in this channel? | May 23 19:19 |
| schestowitz | gary tried | May 23 19:19 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 23 19:19 |
| _Goblin | bet that was good | May 23 19:19 |
| schestowitz | we got him IP address | May 23 19:19 |
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| schestowitz | sick astroturfer | May 23 19:20 |
| _Goblin | yeah...Ive been playing with him on COLA | May 23 19:20 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: he usually uses the "Ender2070" nick | May 23 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean the odd thing is, it's on identi.ca, not a 3rd party stausnet server, that's what I don't understand, why that one page | May 23 19:20 | |
| _Goblin | ah.... | May 23 19:20 |
| schestowitz | don't play with s/he/it | May 23 19:20 |
| _Goblin | has he been on today? | May 23 19:20 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 23 19:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not always | May 23 19:20 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i think the electric shaver has right-of-way | May 23 19:20 |
| _Goblin | I enjoy it. | May 23 19:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a taser | May 23 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] wow, rosetta in launchpad made internationalization a fairly easy process | May 23 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I found Gary's photos | May 23 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Commission Sticks to Flawed #Copyright Repression - http://bit.ly/irmD7l hopes no one will notice the #censorship | May 23 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean firefox 7 times in a row, once on chromium, over an hour fighting to kill these runaway apps while the blood pressure rockets | May 23 19:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU Commission Sticks to Flawed Copyright Repression | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 33.43 KB | May 23 19:23 |
| gde33 | I have this marvelous plan, perhaps you guys could advice me? | May 23 19:24 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: http://imgur.com/r/funny/w8Z6O | May 23 19:24 |
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| msb_ | Folks, I don't think Ender2070 is a troll. | May 23 19:24 |
| gde33 | The idea is basically a micro nation but it intends to govern the entire world. | May 23 19:25 |
| msb_ | He doesn't understand that working people need to organize in order to have any power with respect to the wealthy. | May 23 19:25 |
| gde33 | I've nominated myself to suppreme dictator already. | May 23 19:25 |
| gde33 | more of a joke I'm sure you understand | May 23 19:25 |
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| gde33 | The idea is not just open government but a start from scratch. | May 23 19:26 |
| gde33 | it takes 300 seconds before the site becomes opperational http://wg.go-here.nl/ | May 23 19:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #lkml #qotd "It is faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a freight train. It is KERNEL MAN!" http://bit.ly/lBpkFx #linus | May 23 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/444278/rss | May 23 19:27 | |
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| gde33 | I'm a bit confused about assinging existing departments | May 23 19:27 |
| msb_ | But "ClimateGate" was a revelation of e-mails from the scientists who insist that global warming is real, and the messages talked about manipulating and selecting their data in order to prove their claims. At least one high-level guy resigned over it. | May 23 19:27 |
| gde33 | there are so many open source projects that could be related | May 23 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean yeah, it's not doing anything it shouldn't that I can see, apart from killing my browser time after time after time | May 23 19:28 | |
| gde33 | The way democracy works we can just create political parties to represent sub-departments something like pirate party only more ambitious | May 23 19:28 |
| gde33 | People can submit ideas and fund them if they like them (pay tax) | May 23 19:29 |
| msb_ | I am certainly no troll when I talk about the 9/11 attacks being an inside job. There is conclusive scientific data that the WTC towers were destroyed by implanted explosives and thermite, not by the airplane crashes. | May 23 19:29 |
| gde33 | I consider all GW and 911 discussion trolling | May 23 19:30 |
| gde33 | we have better things to do | May 23 19:30 |
| msb_ | gde33: Who are you? | May 23 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: new #EU telecom rules will achieve at least 3 things: (1) more competition in #telecoms markets http://bit.ly/jdyayc... | May 23 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] .@thistleweb Heck, try going there using https instead of http | May 23 19:30 | |
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| msb_ | gde33: Who is "we"? | May 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | !google wii | May 23 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Wii.com | http://www.wii.com/ | May 23 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wii at Nintendo | http://www.nintendo.com/wii | May 23 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Amazon.com: Wii: Video Games | http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Nintendo/dp/B0009VXBAQ | May 23 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Wii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii | May 23 19:31 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: hi | May 23 19:31 |
| gde33 | msb_: I describe you one of my ideas in the hope you might have a good suggestion. | May 23 19:31 |
| msb_ | Oh, I thought that was pronounced "why". 8^) | May 23 19:31 |
| msb_ | gde33: Who are you? | May 23 19:31 |
| gde33 | why you ask? | May 23 19:32 |
| msb_ | Because I like to know who I'm talking with. | May 23 19:32 |
| gde33 | I'm gaby de wilde | May 23 19:32 |
| gde33 | and you? | May 23 19:32 |
| msb_ | Or at least something about them. | May 23 19:32 |
| msb_ | Mark S Bilk -- cosmicpenguin.com | May 23 19:32 |
| gde33 | msb_: I wouldn't say you are talking with me. You just ignored what I said? | May 23 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean maybe later when the blood pressure has lowered | May 23 19:33 | |
| gde33 | When that happens it isn't a discussion. | May 23 19:34 |
| GoForbes28 | hi, was gone from Sat, just got back now | May 23 19:34 |
| GoForbes28 | hows it going schestowitz? | May 23 19:35 |
| msb_ | gde33: I could not make sense out of what you were saying. I was responding to someone else's remarks. | May 23 19:36 |
| gde33 | msb_: huh what? | May 23 19:36 |
| gde33 | lol | May 23 19:36 |
| gde33 | msb_: nevermind then | May 23 19:37 |
| gde33 | [20:22:29] <msb_> ....working people need to organize in order to have any power with respect to the wealthy. | May 23 19:40 |
| gde33 | we all need to get organized together in order to have any power at all | May 23 19:40 |
| gde33 | so we need OPEN SOURCE WORLD GOVERNMENT | May 23 19:40 |
| gde33 | it should be obvious how such project should work | May 23 19:41 |
| gde33 | and if we can manage to construct something like that all countries of the world can only merge into it. | May 23 19:41 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Anything important to note before I check in on your feeds? | May 23 19:42 |
| gde33 | taxes should be volentary and topical, there shouldnt be any voting - only research. | May 23 19:42 |
| _Goblin | "taxes should be volentary and topical" - How would that work? | May 23 19:43 |
| gde33 | it works just like buying stuff | May 23 19:43 |
| gde33 | just like mirco credits | May 23 19:43 |
| gde33 | 100% legal to | May 23 19:43 |
| gde33 | We get say a billion people onboard, then people can just elect their country to be part of the world government using their conventional elections. | May 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I put you in the editors page | May 23 19:44 |
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| gde33 | We could wait for the power hungry people to set up something like this. The infamous NWO thing. | May 23 19:44 |
| gde33 | But then one shouldnt complaint if one gets ripped off | May 23 19:44 |
| gde33 | If you want it done right you have to do it yourself. | May 23 19:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] New Fellowship interview with Florian Effenberger on LibreOffice and The Document Foundation: http://l.fsfe.org/BaYkD8 | May 23 19:45 | |
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| _Goblin | sorry, jumping into the conversation late is never a good idea....so when we have a world government, how about the parts of the new world who have different views on what the priorities are? Civil war? | May 23 19:45 |
| gde33 | run it like any other open source project | May 23 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Yeah, I thanked you on identi. :) | May 23 19:46 |
| _Goblin | I'd guess that whilst people cannot even agree on religion then it would not last very long | May 23 19:46 |
| _Goblin | nice idea.... | May 23 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Though any reason why it has to be my full name? Everywhere else, it's just "G. Forbes". | May 23 19:46 |
| _Goblin | held back by human nature | May 23 19:46 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: It is a good question, that would be the work involved | May 23 19:46 |
| gde33 | Religions agree perfectly, only the top of their power structure isnt about loving and caring. | May 23 19:47 |
| _Goblin | our laws reflect our societies morals....what is legal in one country is illegal in another.....what makes you think that one government could accomodate every countries morals..... | May 23 19:47 |
| gde33 | but they will always give the impression they are | May 23 19:47 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: it wont be a government based on rules and regulations | May 23 19:48 |
| _Goblin | So what about Christianity and Judaism? | May 23 19:48 |
| _Goblin | for the Jewish community Jesus Christ is yet to arrive.... | May 23 19:48 |
| gde33 | Government should be intreperted as the stuff people do together. | May 23 19:48 |
| _Goblin | for the Christians he's already been. | May 23 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Anyone in Liverpool looking for something to do tonight, come down to the Cavern and see 20lb Sounds play live http://20lb.net | May 23 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Knight-Mozilla Initiative: Challenge 3 – People-Powered News http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2011/05/23/knight-mozilla-initiative-chall | May 23 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: (2) improve #privacy protection for #internet users - http://bit.ly/ldCAXW #digitalagenda | May 23 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: and (3) give #consumers easier and fairer access to #telecoms services http://bit.ly/lzDY5W #digitalagenda | May 23 19:48 | |
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| gde33 | The arival of jesus is a non topic | May 23 19:49 |
| _Goblin | its to highlight a difference | May 23 19:49 |
| _Goblin | thats one...theres a thousand laws for numerous countries at odds with each other | May 23 19:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana No such thing exists. | May 23 19:50 | |
| _Goblin | and in anycase a one world would have a detrimental effect (I believe) on cultural identity....one of the most treasured things we have. | May 23 19:50 |
| gde33 | We get say a billion people onboard, then people can just elect their country to be part of the world government using their conventional elections. | May 23 19:50 |
| _Goblin | I don't see the advantage (even if it could be possible) | May 23 19:51 |
| _Goblin | and what of the "rogue" country which doesn't want to play? | May 23 19:51 |
| gde33 | the only goal is to all agree we need to work together | May 23 19:51 |
| gde33 | either work together or be slaves for another thousands years | May 23 19:51 |
| _Goblin | but are we really slaves? | May 23 19:52 |
| gde33 | the world government is going to happen if you like it or not. | May 23 19:52 |
| gde33 | the only question for you is if it should be made by the people or by the bankers | May 23 19:52 |
| _Goblin | I think that rather cheapens the real definition of slaves, the poor people who throughout history who actually were. | May 23 19:52 |
| _Goblin | and the hardship they suffered | May 23 19:52 |
| gde33 | you want to make it yourself or you want it made for you by the bankers? | May 23 19:52 |
| gde33 | not at all, slaves are property. You cant fire them, you have to feed and house them. | May 23 19:53 |
| _Goblin | well.....neither to be fair, but I'd rather the bankers than myself... | May 23 19:53 |
| gde33 | in wage slavery you are left to die | May 23 19:53 |
| gde33 | you would rather be managed by a small elite? | May 23 19:53 |
| _Goblin | but come on, look back 100 years....poverty today is afluence compared to those times. | May 23 19:53 |
| msb_ | OK, there is a website here: http://wg.go-here.nl/ You seemed to be joking. | May 23 19:54 |
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| _Goblin | gde33, you make an interesting point re: Small elite..... | May 23 19:54 |
| gde33 | it is a highly primitive site | May 23 19:54 |
| gde33 | I cant remember the last time any politician did something truly amazing. | May 23 19:55 |
| gde33 | they just sit there talking their talk | May 23 19:55 |
| gde33 | it is like they don't even exist | May 23 19:55 |
| msb_ | Not anything _good_ and amazing. | May 23 19:55 |
| _Goblin | And I think yes. It has to be that way..... the human condition needs supervision otherwise its abused......its alot like leaving your front door open with money on the sofa.....would you really believe nobody would take it? Supervision is there to ensure conformity because as a whole people cannot be trusted to act decently on their own. | May 23 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | gde33, Wage slavery is about leaving you just barely enough money to live on and discarding you when your health fails | May 23 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 23 19:56 |
| gde33 | DaemonFC: exactly, goblin seems to like that idea. | May 23 19:56 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: I use to rent a big store and give people free beer | May 23 19:56 |
| _Goblin | no...don't make up my views | May 23 19:56 |
| gde33 | for months I had coils scattered all over the place | May 23 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | the minimum wage laws should be tied to the consumer price index | May 23 19:57 |
| _Goblin | If you had asked I would have said that... | May 23 19:57 |
| gde33 | no one took a cent | May 23 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @wayneborean Hi Wayne! | May 23 19:57 | |
| DaemonFC | in my opinion | May 23 19:57 |
| gde33 | coins | May 23 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | after an initial adjustment to bring them up to 1968 living standards | May 23 19:57 |
| _Goblin | benifit and social healthcare systems do need improving, but as I say compare poverty and hardship today to that of 100 years ago. | May 23 19:57 |
| gde33 | the whole wages per hour concept needs to be abandoned | May 23 19:57 |
| gde33 | there isnt that much work to do | May 23 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing wrong with wage per hour, it's the fact that the minimum wage law is such a joke | May 23 19:58 |
| gde33 | 1% of the us economy is agiculture now? | May 23 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | aggressive culture? methinks more than 1% | May 23 19:58 |
| _Goblin | nobody seems brave enough to say this so I will...... | May 23 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I also happen to think they should end tax exemptions for having children | May 23 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.41 and 2.6.33.14 http://lwn.net/Articles/444303/rss | May 23 19:58 | |
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| gde33 | pretending everyone has to work 8 hours per day for food and housing is completely insane, an idea that belongs in the early 1900's | May 23 19:58 |
| _Goblin | We need low paid workers doing menial tasks....... | May 23 19:58 |
| _Goblin | as sad as that statement is. | May 23 19:59 |
| gde33 | we need machines for those taks | May 23 19:59 |
| _Goblin | its a fact. | May 23 19:59 |
| gde33 | it is a lie | May 23 19:59 |
| msb_ | gde33: Gaby, you're proposing to set up an organization that anyone in the world can join, and it would have some kind of governmental functions. | May 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | gde33, An 8 hour day is not that bad | May 23 19:59 |
| _Goblin | so who will clear out the drains? | May 23 19:59 |
| gde33 | msb_: semi governmental functions | May 23 19:59 |
| _Goblin | who will clean public loo's? | May 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | the overtime law is intended to spread the workweek out to 8 hours a day 5 days a week | May 23 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | the standard of living in the west means paying people peanuts for a lot of stuff we want to buy, it keeps the prices affordable as throwaway items | May 23 19:59 |
| msb_ | gde33: And ultimately if enough people joined it, it would become the world government. | May 23 19:59 |
| gde33 | msb_: exactly | May 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | in the early 1900s, the average work day was 14-17 hours | May 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | company dorms | May 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | no safety laws | May 23 20:00 |
| gde33 | msb_: and we could create a presidential candidate for the US and political parties for Europe | May 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | kind of like China now | May 23 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | make those same goods in the west, with minimal wages, the price rockets, making them a LOT more out of reach for disposable income | May 23 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @x11r5 @encyclomundi Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. A genius is often merely a vast improvement over kde3.5 and i agree | May 23 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @floeff Feeling honoured of being this month's fellowship interview at @fsfe - http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=308 !li ... | May 23 20:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | the only country I think needs to be given a special trade status with the US is Canada | May 23 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | <_Goblin> who will clean public loo's? <<there's one in Edinburgh made famous by Trainspotting that'd not be affected, since nobody cleans it now | May 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | they're close to a 1:1 trade ratio with us | May 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | nobody else is | May 23 20:01 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: we can make machines for all kinds of production, only because starving people into submission is cheaper we do it that way. | May 23 20:01 |
| gde33 | most people are not in the loo cleaning business | May 23 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | we in the west are spending way beyond our share, to have the standard of living that we do | May 23 20:02 |
| _Goblin | gde33, can I ask, how much do you earn? (im happy to quote my salary) | May 23 20:02 |
| gde33 | the japanese invented the self cleaning loo ages ago | May 23 20:02 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I hadn't checked wiki spam for a WEEK. :-( What a mess... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=100&days=14&hideminor=0 | May 23 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | Just cleaned it up, took ages | May 23 20:02 |
| msb_ | With full use of the computer and robotic technology we have now, people could create all the goods and services we need by working one or two days -- maybe 10 hours -- per week. | May 23 20:02 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: I'll keep an eye on it :) | May 23 20:03 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: prices are set by creating scaricty in the west | May 23 20:03 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: traffic on techbytes and techrights has been increasingly despite us having less time for it :-) | May 23 20:03 |
| _Goblin | thanks to the Wintrolls? | May 23 20:03 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 23 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | paying someone $1 per day is a LOT different to paying someone $8 per HOUR, to produce the same thing | May 23 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @georgzoche: Puh! Das war 'ne Menge Arbeit: "WELT MACHT GELD" jetzt endlich auch als eBook (Kindle): http://amzn.to/mkyqen | May 23 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In unrelated news, grilling olives wrapped in bacon was a genius idea by @th3k4ty. :) | May 23 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Also, the Dixie Chicks totally rock! | May 23 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UN food agency stunner: World loses/wastes one-third of total global #food production - http://bit.ly/mJYsGT insane | May 23 20:03 | |
| msb_ | Most of human labor today is wasted -- competition, advertising, policing, imprisonment, speculation, etd. | May 23 20:03 |
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| ThistleWeb | that gets passed on to the customer, making the selling price a LOT more | May 23 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | ripple that through almost everything on the shelves, and suddenly people don't have anywhere near the same standard of living, or disposable income after paying for the essensials | May 23 20:04 |
| _Goblin | yep...so pay people more and then charge them more at the shops....its all relative | May 23 20:05 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: There's got be way for better spam control | May 23 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon !identica | May 23 20:05 | |
| gde33 | for starters, people need to grow their own food. | May 23 20:05 |
| gde33 | not everything but a good amount of it | May 23 20:05 |
| ThistleWeb | people want to be ethical, but they want cheap prices more | May 23 20:06 |
| _Goblin | I'm not a economist, but some wishy washy vision of a New World Order with everyone helping each other for the betterment of mankind, just won't work....by nature the Human is greedy, selfish and self serving. | May 23 20:06 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: PSI+ voice works!! | May 23 20:06 |
| gde33 | because if something happens, a natural disaster, a war, an economic crisis. We need people to survive beyond the 30 days worth of food in the shop. | May 23 20:06 |
| _Goblin | its why we have to pay people to work | May 23 20:06 |
| _Goblin | they wont turn up otherwise | May 23 20:06 |
| ThistleWeb | it's why stuff like Fair Trade coffee and chocolate is a minority thing, same with Organic stuff | May 23 20:07 |
| _Goblin | and I was listening how thats damaging... | May 23 20:07 |
| _Goblin | you know they charge the growers to be part of Fair trade? | May 23 20:07 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: you are not greedy if everything you want is provided for | May 23 20:07 |
| _Goblin | ok... | May 23 20:07 |
| gde33 | perhaps lazy but not greedy | May 23 20:07 |
| _Goblin | and who is going to make this stuff? | May 23 20:07 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: People are _not_ greedy, selfish and self serving by nature. They are programmed that way by culture and childhood trauma. | May 23 20:08 |
| _Goblin | what do you do with the person who doesn't want to help? | May 23 20:08 |
| gde33 | we give him more things | May 23 20:08 |
| _Goblin | who says "Nah, can't be bothered....I'll get the stuff I need anyway" | May 23 20:08 |
| gde33 | exelent | May 23 20:08 |
| _Goblin | msb_, its not culture...check out our history and our relationship with the animal kingdom. | May 23 20:09 |
| _Goblin | man has big cave, sees his neighbour with bigger cave.... | May 23 20:09 |
| gde33 | in the animal kingdom no one pays tax | May 23 20:09 |
| gde33 | no one has a job | May 23 20:09 |
| gde33 | food grows on trees | May 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:00] <DaemonFC> in the early 1900s, the average work day was 14-17 hours | May 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I know people who still work like this | May 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Their employers pretend they work a 40 hour week | May 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | But work them overtime | May 23 20:10 |
| gde33 | there still is a slave trade to! | May 23 20:10 |
| _Goblin | So what then would people work together for? Are you saying lets dump tech and go completely back to nature? | May 23 20:10 |
| ThistleWeb | in the wild you catch your own dinner, or die of starvation........or die by not being alert enough to become someone elses diner | May 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Pay them pro-rata at what would be under minimum wage | May 23 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to the live version of the Dixie Chicks' cover of !Dylan's "Mississippi". What a great song! | May 23 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Wow, a 22" full-HD monitor for 1000 SEK? I had no idea. | May 23 20:10 | |
| msb_ | _Goblin: Read the book _The Chalice and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler. | May 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | There's there's internships and work ppacement, i.e./aka total exploitation | May 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Walmart does this to you if you're a mid-level salary manager | May 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | like I was | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | . | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: I'll keep an eye on it :) | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Pay them pro-rata at what would be under minimum wage | May 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | 60 hour weeks, on a salary that's supposed to be for 48 hours | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | . | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: I'll keep an eye on it :) | May 23 20:11 |
| _Goblin | msb_, I am sure its very informative, the fact remains we have thousands of years of history where we developed from living in caves and formed what we have today....it hasnt all fallen appart so I'd suggest its probably the best solution. | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: I'll keep an eye on it :) | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | wanna co-edit? | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <_Goblin> thanks to the Wintrolls? | May 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Never | May 23 20:11 |
| ThistleWeb | capitalism is built around greed | May 23 20:11 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | May 23 20:11 |
| _Goblin | and greed is the driving force for most | May 23 20:11 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: progress is indeed the best solution | May 23 20:12 |
| _Goblin | getting that promotion to buy a car | May 23 20:12 |
| _Goblin | getting a bigger house.... | May 23 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | it is a solution to some issues, but it's based on greed as the motivator | May 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | [20:03] <msb_> Most of human labor today is wasted -- competition, advertising, policing, imprisonment, speculation, etd. | May 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | True | May 23 20:12 |
| gde33 | yes, we are all running in circles | May 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Had this discussion today with a friend who came back from the US. About profit motive as advancer. I told him about PR... he has no comeback. | May 23 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Salary is just a way to work you unpaid overtime in jobs like the one I had | May 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | it hacks around wage and hour laws | May 23 20:13 |
| _Goblin | listen, I don't think what you are saying is bad....I just think its impossible and will never happen. Sure I would love to live in a world without poverty where everyone works together....but lets get real, it won't happen, why? Because by nature we have traits that prevent it from doing so. | May 23 20:13 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: you are just not imaginative enough but your vision (if we can still call it that) is a very popular one. | May 23 20:13 |
| gde33 | first you would have to see how the market is rigged | May 23 20:14 |
| _Goblin | oh, trust me, with my experiences in life I think I can now draw on many facets of society which you would never even see. | May 23 20:14 |
| gde33 | the us sends food aid to africa but that isn't the whole story | May 23 20:15 |
| gde33 | the food aid wrechs local markets | May 23 20:15 |
| gde33 | wrecks | May 23 20:15 |
| gde33 | the US tax payer pays for the food | May 23 20:16 |
| gde33 | but they never see it | May 23 20:16 |
| _Goblin | gde33, What life experiences do you base your views on btw? | May 23 20:16 |
| gde33 | I'm giving you an example | May 23 20:16 |
| _Goblin | no, I'm just asking.... | May 23 20:16 |
| _Goblin | whats the basis for your beliefs? | May 23 20:16 |
| gde33 | I'm a great marketeer | May 23 20:17 |
| gde33 | now it is up to you to convince me marketing is all about telling the truth | May 23 20:17 |
| _Goblin | is it? | May 23 20:17 |
| gde33 | lmao | May 23 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | it's been warped by the rich to maintain them as rich, so we don't any any real examples of any political system working | May 23 20:17 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: The reason we don't have a utopian civilization now is not inherent human nature. It is a competitive, dominating, anti-life, sociopathic culture that is imposed on us. | May 23 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | no political system is a one-shoe for everything | May 23 20:17 |
| _Goblin | msb_, all those traits existed long before we organised ourselves into cultures. | May 23 20:17 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb, but this is the problem, whilst I will admit there is no system without flaws, others would suggest that these flaws prove that its unworkable | May 23 20:18 |
| gde33 | yes, but people didnt know the truth back then. | May 23 20:18 |
| _Goblin | and you do> | May 23 20:18 |
| gde33 | you should know better than to go die for the queen | May 23 20:18 |
| _Goblin | yep I do and I wouldnt | May 23 20:19 |
| _Goblin | my choice | May 23 20:19 |
| ThistleWeb | idea wise there's plenty of systems with merit, every country that tired them always skews it to corruption, and keep the elite in power | May 23 20:19 |
| _Goblin | Im far from a "slave" or brainwashed | May 23 20:19 |
| gde33 | you are informed enough thats the only difference | May 23 20:19 |
| _Goblin | ah..and nobody else does....I am the one in a million who can question the system....thanks for compliment but I think you underestimate the humans ability to think for itself | May 23 20:20 |
| ThistleWeb | capitalism is the one most geared towards progress and growth, but it needs to be rebalanced | May 23 20:20 |
| _Goblin | agreed | May 23 20:20 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: compared to 50 years ago everyone is well informed now | May 23 20:20 |
| _Goblin | completely | May 23 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] This sports arena is sponsored by @fontana, the cheese company. :-) http://ur1.ca/49c71 | May 23 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I'm in the hacker lounge at #meegocon, who wants to play some foosball? | May 23 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 darned if I know | May 23 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: I'm in the hacker lounge at #meegocon, who wants to play some foosball? | May 23 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New in the blog spam comments department... Instead of actual porn links, porn comments clearly written in a translator, selling casinos. | May 23 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] TDF announces the Engineering Steering Committee http://lwn.net/Articles/444302/rss | May 23 20:20 | |
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| _Goblin | gde33, so then if thats right, then I am right, this well informed us doesn't seem to want this NWO and is quite happy how things are. | May 23 20:21 |
| gde33 | the system is still corrupt enough for no one to care what you think | May 23 20:21 |
| ThistleWeb | for the most part capitalism is the best we have, with some parts of society run under a different model as a saftey net for those who would otherwise be left behind | May 23 20:21 |
| _Goblin | gde33, really, and there no examples of change brought about by individuals? | May 23 20:21 |
| gde33 | the system is not just ignoring your ideas, it is ignoring all of them with such efficency people don't bother having them. | May 23 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | gde33: you've just answered why your world govt won't work....congrats | May 23 20:22 |
| _Goblin | welldone you have just cheapened all the battles fought by minority groups to get their voices heard (and suceeded) | May 23 20:22 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: it is one of the big issues | May 23 20:22 |
| _Goblin | gay rights.... | May 23 20:22 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: the means is not the end | May 23 20:22 |
| _Goblin | equal rights | May 23 20:22 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: Archeological evidence presented in _The Chalice and the Blade_ shows that prior to about 5,000 years ago, most cultures were not exploitive, dominating, or male-supremacist. | May 23 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | last rights? | May 23 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | erm....rites* | May 23 20:23 |
| _Goblin | yep ! That too | May 23 20:23 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: When you are starving the free market gives you a kookie. | May 23 20:23 |
| gde33 | or wait... | May 23 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh so far, it's been a lot of suits, macs, and windows machines. | May 23 20:23 | |
| _Goblin | msb_, In a book I once read, archeological evidence was "proving" that the pyramids were built by Aliens... | May 23 20:24 |
| _Goblin | msb_, I don't need to go further | May 23 20:24 |
| msb_ | And since we have not changed very much biologically in the last 5,000 years, that means that by changing our culture and child-raising practices we can have a utopian society again. | May 23 20:24 |
| gde33 | womans rights movement was funded primarly to have kids raised by the Tee Vee rather than their mum. | May 23 20:25 |
| gde33 | this is how we create self centered people. | May 23 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Sorry Roy, I was on the banhammer | May 23 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: You mean co-edit an article? | May 23 20:25 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: "pyramids were built by Aliens" is a straw-man argument. I think all of us here are smart enough to know that that is BS. | May 23 20:25 |
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| ThistleWeb | kookie sounds like something web browsers on KDE give you when you visit sites ;) | May 23 20:26 |
| _Goblin | msb_, But not smart enough (in my case) to blindly buy into another book and its claims about 5000 years ago? | May 23 20:26 |
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| gde33 | but tell us more about this banker ruled utopia of yours Goblin. | May 23 20:26 |
| Guest46331 | hey roy, you in the gym tomorrow | May 23 20:26 |
| gde33 | will people be harvested for organs? | May 23 20:26 |
| _Goblin | I'm sorry, I would like to be convinced with this betterment of man, but I have had first hand experience of the worst of human nature...... | May 23 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ratfink: Things to do in !Minecraft: mine more diamonds, get cobblestone, build tunnel in the nether, complete with minecarts. | May 23 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra I'm not surprised. Glad you are there to hold the Outlaw banner up, mate! | May 23 20:27 | |
| msb_ | _Goblin: Well, maybe you could READ the book and see what evidence it presents. | May 23 20:27 |
| gde33 | it is really simple, we create a big mob then we just take all your property. No questions asked. | May 23 20:27 |
| _Goblin | and when that happens, I will be running Microsoft. | May 23 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | the company? | May 23 20:28 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 23 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | wow | May 23 20:28 |
| gde33 | we wont be stopped by unmotivated efforts like yours :) | May 23 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | gde33: go for it | May 23 20:28 |
| gde33 | there isn't any money in it | May 23 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | seriously | May 23 20:28 |
| msb_ | gde33: Presumably you're kidding about the big mob. The capitalists have big armies and police forces and very nasty weaponry. | May 23 20:28 |
| gde33 | we have elections | May 23 20:29 |
| msb_ | gde33: There would be a huge war like the one that followed the Bolshevik revolution. | May 23 20:29 |
| gde33 | the big guns are all ours | May 23 20:29 |
| _Goblin | and what are you going to do when the "evil" people with money throw the army, police and hardware at you..? Shower them with daisys, sit around a campfire singing "Come by ah" until they run out of ammo? Come on really..... The poor people of Libya couldn't even rise up without help from powerful nations. | May 23 20:29 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, yeah you do, and if you think any party actually represent you, you're naieve | May 23 20:29 |
| msb_ | What's needed is to convince most of the people first. | May 23 20:29 |
| _Goblin | best of luck | May 23 20:30 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: good point! | May 23 20:30 |
| _Goblin | I 'd suggest an IRC channel is not the best place to start | May 23 20:30 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: the backwards ideology fails to make real progress. | May 23 20:30 |
| msb_ | Well, it got me interested. | May 23 20:31 |
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| ThistleWeb | I'd agree, choose your medium, set up a site explaining how your vision could work and try not to sound crazy in the process | May 23 20:31 |
| gde33 | the old people will just die along with their old ideas. | May 23 20:31 |
| _Goblin | have you met the new generation? | May 23 20:31 |
| _Goblin | I do on a daily basis. | May 23 20:31 |
| gde33 | who makes those kids? | May 23 20:32 |
| msb_ | The open-source paradigm may indeed hold the key to freeing this planet from the NWO/fascism/exploitive-capitalism. | May 23 20:32 |
| ThistleWeb | JEDWARD ROOLZ!!!!! | May 23 20:32 |
| _Goblin | if the ones I encounter are whats in store for the future, I'll be happy to be dead | May 23 20:32 |
| gde33 | who makes those kids that way? | May 23 20:32 |
| _Goblin | infact the new generation is greedier than the older. | May 23 20:32 |
| ThistleWeb | yep | May 23 20:32 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: is the question to complicated? | May 23 20:33 |
| _Goblin | gde33, its a shift change in wishy washy laws and punishments. | May 23 20:33 |
| _Goblin | thats whats greated the new generation | May 23 20:33 |
| _Goblin | no fear | May 23 20:33 |
| msb_ | They have been programmed to be that way. That's what "sociopathy" means. | May 23 20:33 |
| ThistleWeb | "for christmas I demand a new iphone, mac, xbox, bike, loads of games, a new plasma TV" | May 23 20:33 |
| gde33 | the programming skills get better all the time. | May 23 20:33 |
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| _Goblin | eh? | May 23 20:33 |
| gde33 | now they have brainscans to validate the advertisement | May 23 20:33 |
| ThistleWeb | really? when most of th stuff they use are all closed source gadgets? the companies supplying them demonising the idea of wanting to explore how they work | May 23 20:34 |
| _Goblin | gde33, which question are you refering to about being too complicated? | May 23 20:34 |
| msb_ | The music is very important, also psychedelics. That's how the culture of Consciousness fluorished in the 1960's. | May 23 20:34 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: the one about the way kids are being manufactured. | May 23 20:34 |
| _Goblin | and in the 1960's there was a far harsher law and punishment | May 23 20:34 |
| ThistleWeb | add to the idea that people spend MUCH more time with gadgets, TV, games etc than actually doing anything | May 23 20:35 |
| _Goblin | but Gordon......if they don't want to work, we should just give them more. | May 23 20:35 |
| _Goblin | (sarcasm) | May 23 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh ... and wear a dirty outlaw t-shirt | May 23 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: it's the *business* of Linux. When the talk started mentioning marketing, I had to go find some personal space and some coffee | May 23 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Graffiti on Dublin streets http://is.gd/QHj1Af | May 23 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... That tornado footage from the US looks bad..... Oo | May 23 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Has !Canonical Convinced !Linux Users to Pay for Applications? | The VAR Guy http://ping.fm/swMQ9 | May 23 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Awesome! :D | May 23 20:35 | |
| ThistleWeb | not exactly sure that adds up to their programming skills getting better | May 23 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching #DerLetzteBulle. | May 23 20:35 | |
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| ThistleWeb | lol | May 23 20:35 |
| _Goblin | let them sit around and not be slaves to an evil government | May 23 20:35 |
| msb_ | In the 60's there was the music of the Jefferson Airplane, Crosby Stills and Nash, and cannabis everywhere. | May 23 20:35 |
| _Goblin | and the idea of sitting around doing nothing all day was a concept that rarely existed..... | May 23 20:36 |
| _Goblin | now doing that is a lifestyle choice | May 23 20:36 |
| ThistleWeb | there was also a culture of only spending what you had, as well as a job for life | May 23 20:36 |
| msb_ | Cannabis helped free a lot of minds! | May 23 20:36 |
| gde33 | The bankers promoted things like the free sex thing and exessive drug abuse to make the ideology look perverted. | May 23 20:36 |
| _Goblin | so your argument merits going back to a 1960's lifestyle rather than a utopian one. | May 23 20:36 |
| gde33 | nice trick that was | May 23 20:36 |
| _Goblin | ? | May 23 20:37 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: we have so much technology not being used right now | May 23 20:37 |
| ThistleWeb | not to mention the norm was making stuff last as long as possible, not throw out perfectly good stuff because it's last yrs fashion | May 23 20:37 |
| gde33 | it is just silly | May 23 20:37 |
| msb_ | "If you want to see the future, look into the eyes of your young dancing children -- don't be afraid of our ways!" | May 23 20:37 |
| _Goblin | whats this got to do with a NWO? | May 23 20:37 |
| gde33 | it is considered disruptive innovation. | May 23 20:37 |
| _Goblin | gde33, a couple of hundred thousand Kin's for starters | May 23 20:37 |
| ThistleWeb | NWO sounds like a NWA tribute act | May 23 20:37 |
| _Goblin | I always think of WCW and a wrestling group headed by Hulk Hogan | May 23 20:38 |
| _Goblin | NWO -For life.... | May 23 20:38 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | May 23 20:38 |
| _Goblin | if memory serves | May 23 20:38 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | May 23 20:38 |
| _Goblin | started out as the Wolfpac I believe | May 23 20:38 |
| msb_ | New World Order -- the current name for world fascism/corporatism. | May 23 20:38 |
| gde33 | right, 200 channels with wresting on them and you pretend that was human nature? hah | May 23 20:38 |
| _Goblin | sort of a take on the Four Horseman | May 23 20:38 |
| gde33 | it was all your idea? :P | May 23 20:38 |
| _Goblin | eh? | May 23 20:38 |
| gde33 | just being silly | May 23 20:39 |
| ThistleWeb | four horsemen does sound like the start of a doctor doctor joke about sore throats | May 23 20:39 |
| _Goblin | gde33, Wrestling is certainly not human nature....we are having a comical diversion from a subject which has yet to convince me of anything | May 23 20:39 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: you ever watched "Consuming kids" ? | May 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | [20:12] <_Goblin> getting that promotion to buy a car < status anxiety | May 23 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senate #PATRIOTAct debate starting, watch live: https://eff.org/r.56A; Paul teams with Leahy on reform amendment, https://eff.org/r.5 | May 23 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh, @bkuhn and I planned on writing multi-volume history of !freesoftware but seemed (to me) too monumental a task :-/ | May 23 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senate #PATRIOTAct debate starting, watch live: https://eff.org/r.56A; Paul teams with Leahy on reform amendment, https://eff.org/r.55D | May 23 20:40 | |
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| *DaemonFC smacks schestowitz around a bit and gives him Unity with Fluendo WMA playback | May 23 20:40 | |
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| _Goblin | no...I don't watch much telly, because I refuse to be spoon fed...I will research myself | May 23 20:40 |
| _Goblin | if I am interested. | May 23 20:40 |
| gde33 | ok | May 23 20:40 |
| schestowitz | [20:13] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Salary is just a way to work you unpaid overtime in jobs like the one I had | May 23 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Yes | May 23 20:41 |
| gde33 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uUU7cjfcdM | May 23 20:41 |
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| msb_ | Today's so-called "reality" tv shows have a bunch of people who every week gang up on one of their number and get rid of them. The last one there gets a lot of money. That is training in sociopathy for everyone who watches it. | May 23 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I see it in other people's case | May 23 20:41 |
| schestowitz | One employer tried to do the same to me | May 23 20:41 |
| _Goblin | msb_, See I would completely disagree....I would watch it to laugh at desperate people trying to be famous | May 23 20:41 |
| gde33 | you can not disagree | May 23 20:41 |
| gde33 | it doesnt work like that | May 23 20:42 |
| schestowitz | It's basically like a lot of companies have the mentality of: "I pay you a wage. Now, do as I tell you and work overtime or I stop paying you...." | May 23 20:42 |
| _Goblin | msb_, and the vast majority of people view it the same way. | May 23 20:42 |
| gde33 | it is programming people | May 23 20:42 |
| schestowitz | "You should be thankful you even get a salary" | May 23 20:42 |
| _Goblin | why is it when people promote these New World ideas, they think they can see things that others cant. | May 23 20:42 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: They are becoming famous by harming others in order to benefit themselves. That is sociopathy. | May 23 20:42 |
| gde33 | we all see things others cant | May 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Walmart is still selling Vista7 upgrades, but not for Windows Vista users, these packs give you a redemption code to "unlock" the features of a more expensive Windows 7. What an environmentally unfriendly thing to do. Plastic and cardboard and whatnot. Just so someone can unlock files that are already there and disabled. | May 23 20:42 |
| schestowitz | actually, the person who was here earlier, Mike (guestXXXX), has this exploitation | May 23 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I bet he had only gotten back home... 8:30PM | May 23 20:43 |
| _Goblin | I'm talking about the wrongs of society.....we all see it.....I suppose it feels better if we tell ourselves that we go along with it because of brainwashing or condition, when the uncomfortable truth is, we don't want to change it. | May 23 20:43 |
| schestowitz | [20:13] <DaemonFC> it hacks around wage and hour laws | May 23 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Dying breed | May 23 20:43 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: lies | May 23 20:43 |
| _Goblin | really? So you are the only one to notice these evils? | May 23 20:44 |
| _Goblin | I see them as well as you. | May 23 20:44 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: lets examine your idea that things wont get any worse. Or wait you said they are getting worse! | May 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz | They never count the same it takes you to shave, dress up, drive, handle pay-related chores, etc. | May 23 20:44 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: I sure want to change it. So does Gaby here. And you probably do too, which is why you're involved with open-source. | May 23 20:44 |
| _Goblin | gde33, I didn't say that...At least try to remain honest. | May 23 20:44 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: so which direction are we moving in? | May 23 20:44 |
| _Goblin | gde33, the first question with a little insight.... | May 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz | The worse ones, will tell you, we pay $50k wage (say), but they don't say you'll sacrifice 70 hours per week for it | May 23 20:45 |
| gde33 | msb_: he does have interesting points we should expect to hear again and again. | May 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | So you'll get obese and depressed, no exercise, maybe some TV when you're all worn out at 10PM | May 23 20:45 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: good! we agree things aren't going to stay the same? | May 23 20:45 |
| _Goblin | and I'm affraid you will have to wait until Ive had a smoke. I am addicted and conditioned by a government who wants to tax my smoking and then save money when I die early....all the while encouraging me to have private healthcare so they don't foot the bill | May 23 20:45 |
| _Goblin | brb | May 23 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 160 dents! | May 23 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @ARLpolicy DiFi: "This is a time of hypened, er, heightened threats." #freudianslip #PATRIOTAct | May 23 20:46 | |
| gde33 | there are some who want to continue to abuse everyone but everyone else wants it to stop. | May 23 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canonical's !Launchpad Streamlines Translation of Ubuntu | The VAR Guy http://ping.fm/HhY0G | May 23 20:47 | |
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| msb_ | gde33: People need certain information -- _The Chalice and the Blade_, the music of Jefferson Airplane/Starship, _In Search of the Miraculous_ by PD Ouspensky about the idea of Gurdjieff, books by Wilhelm Reich, etc. | May 23 20:47 |
| msb_ | idea->ideas | May 23 20:47 |
| gde33 | yes, exelent. | May 23 20:47 |
| gde33 | I think we need to learn to grow our own food first | May 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | [20:26] <Guest46331> hey roy, you in the gym tomorrow | May 23 20:48 |
| schestowitz | He always needs to hurry in his lunch break | May 23 20:48 |
| msb_ | Difficult inside a city. | May 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | With me there's no time pressure | May 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | So I kept in better shape :-) http://schestowitz.com/Images/Pictures/may0501.jpg | May 23 20:49 |
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| gde33 | msb_: we have wonderful technology to grow food in the weirdest of places. | May 23 20:49 |
| gde33 | msb_: the supper LED's are getting better and cheaper all the time | May 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/01/04/mike-coogan/ | May 23 20:49 |
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| msb_ | I think collective farms would be a great solution for the unemployed and homeless. | May 23 20:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Bottles of Miller lite in the hacker lounge? Don't mind if I do! | May 23 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2008/03/04/mr-fitness-photos/ | May 23 20:50 |
| msb_ | farm co-ops might be a better term | May 23 20:51 |
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| gde33 | schestowitz: gratzz :) | May 23 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Contemporary history at best. | May 23 20:52 | |
| gde33 | msb_: yes, nice that. | May 23 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] a bit of self loathing http://www.jezra.net/blog/Beer_review #shamelessselfpromotion | May 23 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ich hab so richtiges Ruhrdeutsch echt vermisst. #DerPottRult #DerLetzteBulle | May 23 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Successful timing attacks on elliptic curve #cryptography - The H Security: News and Features http://ping.fm/BtMIB | May 23 20:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nisshh 'Coz you sound like an expert. "One week with Arch Linux" http://ur1.ca/49ces - made it sound less daunting than I would expect | May 23 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America hold annual convention http://ping.fm/0rKhm | May 23 20:55 | |
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| schestowitz | gde33: thanks | May 23 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up with IRC | May 23 20:55 |
| schestowitz | For the first time in hours :-) | May 23 20:55 |
| schestowitz | I missed some responses :/ Mike and Gordon have left by now | May 23 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk But it would require more brain cells than I can affort at the moment, but @nisshh made it sound do-able for me... (for future) | May 23 20:57 | |
| _Goblin | gde33, right back | May 23 20:57 |
| _Goblin | gde33, of course things don't stay the same....history shows that. | May 23 20:57 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: I can publish your feedback? | May 23 20:58 |
| _Goblin | yes by all means | May 23 20:58 |
| gde33 | great :) | May 23 20:58 |
| _Goblin | gde33, where abouts will it be published? I'll link it. | May 23 20:59 |
| gde33 | I think the way things will change (if we dont act) wont be pretty. | May 23 20:59 |
| _Goblin | you think | May 23 20:59 |
| _Goblin | they also thought that WW2 was the end of the world.....it wasn't | May 23 21:00 |
| msb_ | With modern farming technology, one person can feed fifty, so people on a co-op farm would have no trouble feeding themselves and building their housing etc too. | May 23 21:00 |
| _Goblin | the human animal is quite fantastic, it adapts. | May 23 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] testing the latest ubuntu tweak (0.6.0-0~20110523) | May 23 21:00 | |
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| _Goblin | but it has always retained its core driving force....the desire to reproduce, to acquire and to dominate. | May 23 21:00 |
| _Goblin | reproduction can come in many forms too....idealogical for example.....the idea that people should conform to ones own views. | May 23 21:02 |
| gde33 | there is also love and care, we just can not afford to expand that beyond our own friends and family | May 23 21:02 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: if you access this information you will get a different and much more optimistic outlook about human nature: _The Chalice and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler, the music of Jefferson Airplane/Starship, _In Search of the Miraculous_ by PD Ouspensky about the ideas of Gurdjieff, books by Wilhelm Reich. | May 23 21:03 |
| _Goblin | I can tell you now I wouldn't I would be dubious of any view formed on the basis of a couple of books....I prefer a mixture of life experience and research | May 23 21:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 23 May 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900 | May 23 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Genmais. Der Tod in Tüten! ROFL #DerLetzteBulle | May 23 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 2.8.0? http://lwn.net/Articles/444314/rss | May 23 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Bahamas starts http://alturl.com/kr7ph | May 23 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] An Open Letter To #Sony CEO Howard Stringer http://is.gd/Ty7Xub | May 23 21:03 | |
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| _Goblin | msb_, because I can list you much documentation backing up my views....it doesn't make me any more correct or mean that you will suddenly buy into my view. | May 23 21:04 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: If you access those ideas and then keep them in mind when observing the world around you, your eyes will be opened. | May 23 21:04 |
| _Goblin | msb_, I think Roy, would agree I have considerable experience in human nature. | May 23 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Seine Dienstwaffe ist ein 1911 Colt. ROFL. #DerLetzteBulle | May 23 21:05 | |
| _Goblin | msb_, and I base my observations of real experiences not books. | May 23 21:05 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: The info I suggest is from some of the few people who have awakened out of the consensus trance -- the Matrix -- and realized the truth about us. | May 23 21:05 |
| msb_ | _Goblin: No, you base your ideas on your experience as filtered through your socially-programmed worldview, which is self-reinforcing. | May 23 21:06 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | May 23 21:07 |
| _Goblin | msb_, Ah...and I'm sorry.....I respect your views and would not want to cheapen them......but you've now mentioned the word which has me switching off completely....its certainly to large a topic to discuss via text.......sorry, youve hit my trigger word "The Matrix" | May 23 21:07 |
| gde33 | it is some what reactionary _Goblin, not incorrect but reactionary | May 23 21:07 |
| msb_ | The actual truth is as different from mainstream culture as the reality that Neo woke up into when he swallowed the red pill in _The Matrix_. | May 23 21:07 |
| gde33 | my actions tell you about humans also. :D | May 23 21:07 |
| _Goblin | thats very gracious I'm sure... I wonder, maybe this is a discussion for Techbytes if you would come on. | May 23 21:07 |
| _Goblin | msb_, I'll say this, you are serious in believing that the entire planet should and can drop everything and live this new world? | May 23 21:08 |
| msb_ | I would be happy to come on TechBytes. | May 23 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Shrooms. Awesome. #DerLetzteBulle | May 23 21:08 | |
| _Goblin | msb_, in addition let me make this comment about "The Matrix"..... | May 23 21:09 |
| gde33 | but I take it you first want to see some results, then you want to investigate the results by yourself and ask questions? | May 23 21:09 |
| gde33 | doesnt seem unreasonable at all | May 23 21:09 |
| _Goblin | "Come and swallow this pill and wake up out of this horrible trance world" | May 23 21:09 |
| _Goblin | "Ok" | May 23 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | "I know Ubuntu" | May 23 21:09 |
| _Goblin | "Hang on, all the real world is is a bunch of rocks and some lightening.....plug me back in" | May 23 21:09 |
| ThistleWeb | erm....kung fu | May 23 21:09 |
| msb_ | Not drop _everything_. Food, clothing, shelter, medicine, family, technology (the peaceful part), etc. -- all good. | May 23 21:09 |
| gde33 | this is also interesting! | May 23 21:10 |
| gde33 | I'd say to much change will confuse people. | May 23 21:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Rapid-release idea spreads to Firefox 5 beta (CNet) http://lwn.net/Articles/444316/rss | May 23 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nisshh And that's good for people to know. | May 23 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Wrote about an *extorsion* effect of portuguese Socialist Party's law proposal on private copy levvies. In portuguese: http://ur1.ca/49cia | May 23 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bonanza als Ringtone. #DerLetzteBulle | May 23 21:10 | |
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| gde33 | we do want to know the world arround us. | May 23 21:10 |
| gde33 | it would be really bad to install utopia overnight. People would hate it. | May 23 21:10 |
| _Goblin | Im sorry if Mr Reaves took me out of the Matrix to a bunch of rocks and a bit of lightning, I'd stuff that red pill of his somewhere only customs men dare to probe. | May 23 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu, Starring Jono Bacon as Clippy. "It looks like you're trying to play an MP3...Want some nonfree software?" | May 23 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 23 21:11 |
| _Goblin | Hey...Jono would be a far better clippy.....He could play Severed Fifth music and make the Windows desktop rock. | May 23 21:12 |
| _Goblin | that would at least be one reason to have Windows. | May 23 21:12 |
| ThistleWeb | the devil horns of death instead of a BSOD | May 23 21:12 |
| _Goblin | cool | May 23 21:13 |
| ThistleWeb | a picture of a hand sign | May 23 21:13 |
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| msb_ | The actual method of waking up is to learn about true human nature, learn that you yourself have been programmed and how it has been done. When you can understand how your worldview has been formed, and how you can alter your beliefs toward more accuracy, then you are on the road to having free will. | May 23 21:13 |
| ThistleWeb | "your application has moshed" | May 23 21:13 |
| _Goblin | I have free will....I am able to take the views of many diverse opinions and form my own | May 23 21:13 |
| MinceR | i was thinking of a different hand sign | May 23 21:13 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb, good one | May 23 21:13 |
| ThistleWeb | having a free willy has gotten a lot of blokes into trouble | May 23 21:14 |
| MinceR | one that fits m$'s (and canonical's) attitude better | May 23 21:14 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: and free mason | May 23 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | /home/ryan/Music/Alice in Chains/Live/01 - Bleed The Freak.ogg | May 23 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 23 21:15 |
| msb_ | No, dear _Goblin -- Tim, isn't it? -- I'm afraid you don't. | May 23 21:15 |
| _Goblin | lol.... | May 23 21:15 |
| _Goblin | now you are trying to condition me. | May 23 21:15 |
| _Goblin | because I challenge your view....something that I equate to free will | May 23 21:15 |
| msb_ | No, I am trying to get you to learn how to decondition yourself. | May 23 21:15 |
| ThistleWeb | try head off the shoulders, it has built in conditioning | May 23 21:15 |
| _Goblin | thanks I'm sure | May 23 21:15 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: you like my idea for world government and you are going to keep it. | May 23 21:15 |
| gde33 | it is everything you always wanted ;) | May 23 21:16 |
| gde33 | just sign here | May 23 21:16 |
| _Goblin | yes, I like the idea....I also like the idea of free Mr Whippy icecream for everyone....doesn't mean its going to happen or practical in the real world | May 23 21:16 |
| msb_ | You will wake up feeling very refreshed! | May 23 21:16 |
| gde33 | the only reason it is not going to happen is because you don't want it badly enough | May 23 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | eventually Severed Fifth will testify in front of Congress that the free downloads are killing them | May 23 21:17 |
| ThistleWeb | serious discussion relating a real life matrix, conditioning, free world etc reminds me of Scientology, the rapture folks and bernie mahdof | May 23 21:17 |
| ThistleWeb | dunno why | May 23 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Bernie Madoff, pronounced "made off" as in "made off with all your money" | May 23 21:18 |
| gde33 | the japanese just did 32 Tbit/s data transfer, the copyright debate gets more funny by the day | May 23 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | but then, there's one born every minute who'd fall for it | May 23 21:18 |
| msb_ | ThistleWeb: Because you're programmed against thinking about the real thing, so you divert your attention with those evildoers? | May 23 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, if it makes you feel better to assume that, don't let me stop you | May 23 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | all I see is credibility evaporating with some kooky ideas that have no basis in reality | May 23 21:19 |
| _Goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoVXf91fx68 | May 23 21:19 |
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| msb_ | ThistleWeb: We talk about people helping one another, working together just like in open-source, and you bring up a murderous cult and a delusionary one, and a sociopathic criminal. | May 23 21:20 |
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| gde33 | msb_: if those will be the arguments our mission should be an easy one! | May 23 21:20 |
| gde33 | haha | May 23 21:21 |
| _Goblin | mission? | May 23 21:21 |
| schestowitz | bernie padoff (paid off) for president | May 23 21:21 |
| _Goblin | thats disturbing | May 23 21:21 |
| ThistleWeb | msb_: they spewed some incredulous arguments to entice the gullible too | May 23 21:21 |
| msb_ | ThistleWeb: You might try accessing some of the sources I mentioned before considering them to be "kooky". | May 23 21:21 |
| ThistleWeb | after this kinda discussion? yeah lol | May 23 21:21 |
| _Goblin | thistleweb: the mission is not off to a good start.....that two people already not convinced (Me and You) | May 23 21:22 |
| ThistleWeb | if it was half way credible, you'd be setting it out properly, filling in the gaps of how things would work | May 23 21:22 |
| msb_ | gde33: No, our mission is very difficult because the enforced anti-life belief system has powerful directives for defending itself. | May 23 21:22 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: not at all! Your feedback was very valuable to me. | May 23 21:22 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: speak for yourself.....I'm convinced.....just not quite the same thing as planned | May 23 21:22 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb, how are you convinced? Can you convince me? | May 23 21:23 |
| msb_ | gde33: People who have been programmed with it almost always refuse to access any info that would contradict it. | May 23 21:23 |
| gde33 | msb_: Dont spend your energy on a single person. | May 23 21:23 |
| _Goblin | cheap | May 23 21:23 |
| _Goblin | and people who disagree with my world view refuse to access info. | May 23 21:23 |
| msb_ | gde33: Correct. | May 23 21:23 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm convinced it's a half assed ill concieved promise of a future that fails to address most of humanity | May 23 21:24 |
| _Goblin | Im with you brother | May 23 21:24 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: which one is that? Scientology? | May 23 21:24 |
| _Goblin | there...see....msb you are already bringing us together. | May 23 21:24 |
| ThistleWeb | things do need to change, but this is a joke | May 23 21:24 |
| _Goblin | agreed | May 23 21:24 |
| gde33 | sounds like weasel words to me | May 23 21:24 |
| gde33 | when will the arguments come? | May 23 21:25 |
| ThistleWeb | gde33: you;d be better tagging your mission to scientology, at least they have a brand of kookyness | May 23 21:25 |
| ThistleWeb | it'd save you some money in marketting | May 23 21:25 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: my kookyness is superior | May 23 21:25 |
| msb_ | Once I was in a park and was approached by a young person programmed in the Hare Krishna cult. I was talking to him about it when an older HK person came along and dragged him away before he could question his beliefs. | May 23 21:25 |
| _Goblin | gde33, msb_ we'll you've succeeded in uniting two people in a common cause, just not the one you agree with. Just like you want open and freedom then you have to respect mine and Gordons views too. | May 23 21:25 |
| gde33 | but the gist is that you are not going to do anything together and we will | May 23 21:26 |
| gde33 | ha-ha | May 23 21:26 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah people already in one cult have shown themselves open to being convimnced by half assed ideologies, they don't want them moving to another | May 23 21:26 |
| _Goblin | gde33, Yes I am, I will work with Gordon to support the views already stated. | May 23 21:26 |
| _Goblin | gde33, our views that is. | May 23 21:26 |
| gde33 | I wish you the best | May 23 21:26 |
| _Goblin | thank you. | May 23 21:26 |
| gde33 | tell me, united in opposition. What will you do when you succeed? | May 23 21:27 |
| gde33 | could that be.... nothing at all? | May 23 21:27 |
| _Goblin | don't know yet..... | May 23 21:27 |
| msb_ | Murderous exploitive capitalism, war on "terror"... | May 23 21:27 |
| gde33 | trying not to laugh now | May 23 21:27 |
| _Goblin | Ive always wanted a boat..... | May 23 21:27 |
| *ThistleWeb will celebrate the #winning with a nice cool glass of #tigerblood | May 23 21:27 | |
| _Goblin | gde33, I hope you realize I am being sarcastic.... | May 23 21:27 |
| _Goblin | ThistleWeb, you can do that on my boat | May 23 21:27 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: sure I do | May 23 21:28 |
| gde33 | but I can filter out your real arguments out of all the bs, dont worry ;) | May 23 21:28 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl, I love the inference, by not buying into this future, we automatically believe the current situation is prefectly fine | May 23 21:28 |
| ThistleWeb | that's hilarious | May 23 21:28 |
| _Goblin | what I want to know.... | May 23 21:28 |
| msb_ | Sarcasm doesn't work well in a text medium. Except to decrease the signal to noise ratio and distract people. | May 23 21:28 |
| _Goblin | msb_, this new world, this future.....when it happens what I want to know is..... | May 23 21:29 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: why do you believe in the bush doctrine? | May 23 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | msb_: yet you're here spewing this shite knowing sarcasm doesnt come across well, lovely | May 23 21:29 |
| _Goblin | msb_, how long do we have to wait for a holodeck? | May 23 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | I do? wow, that's a new one on me | May 23 21:29 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: What about Bernie? | May 23 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | that's one of them "so when did you start beating your wife" questions | May 23 21:29 |
| gde33 | oh, I didnt know you beat your wife? | May 23 21:30 |
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| _Goblin | gde33, msb_ I hope you have no hard feelings....this has been a rather fun and lighthearted debate....in all seriousness your views are your own and I can't dismiss them, but I would hope you would see that you are flogging a dead horse with me (and probably Gordon too). | May 23 21:30 |
| msb_ | ThistleWeb: I am not being sarcastic at all. And what I'm saying is not shite, it is the best info I have found in a lifetime -- 65 years -- of searching for the truth about people and culture. | May 23 21:30 |
| ThistleWeb | well, good for you | May 23 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | depending on the future state of the shaving industry, the bush doctrine may be in all our futures | May 23 21:31 |
| _Goblin | msb_, can I ask....what life experience do you have of people and culture? Not research or books, but real experience? | May 23 21:31 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: you are not the only dead horse, there are many dead horses like you who will say similar things. In stead of ignoring all of you I feel I should listen carefully just in case you say something that actually makes sense. Not very unlikely that. | May 23 21:32 |
| gde33 | is that sarcastic enough? | May 23 21:32 |
| msb_ | I can only point you toward the works of others -- like links on a web page -- including also John C Lilly, Timothy Leary, Aldous Huxley. | May 23 21:32 |
| _Goblin | thats very insulting and rather dismissive of my views...I hope this new world order is far more tollerant. | May 23 21:32 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: of course it is, you are technically in charge. | May 23 21:32 |
| _Goblin | no I am not. | May 23 21:32 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh, everyone is in charge | May 23 21:33 |
| _Goblin | I am above no man (or woman) | May 23 21:33 |
| ThistleWeb | I love it.....anarchy | May 23 21:33 |
| gde33 | anarchy means without archons | May 23 21:33 |
| ThistleWeb | none of these silly laws that force us to be civilised | May 23 21:33 |
| _Goblin | in here we are equals......with the exception of Jono who is a Metal God. | May 23 21:33 |
| gde33 | you afraid to go without queen or king? | May 23 21:33 |
| _Goblin | no | May 23 21:33 |
| schestowitz | [21:29] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: What about Bernie? | May 23 21:33 |
| ThistleWeb | are queen still going? | May 23 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Padoff? :-) | May 23 21:33 |
| _Goblin | infact check out the t-shirt I was wearing on royal wedding day on the techbytes videocast | May 23 21:33 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Uh huh | May 23 21:34 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: The Brian May band? | May 23 21:34 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: :) | May 23 21:34 |
| ThistleWeb | well, after he usurped Freddie Mercury's lack of commitment, due to the minor inconvienience of being dead | May 23 21:34 |
| gde33 | our royalty is very classy, very unlike obama who needs to keep on telling lies just to keep the elite on their throne. | May 23 21:35 |
| schestowitz | [21:33] <ThistleWeb> are queen still going? | May 23 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Having a good time | May 23 21:35 |
| gde33 | 60% of the people here love having a queen. | May 23 21:35 |
| _Goblin | gde33, you from UK | May 23 21:35 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Don't stop me now | May 23 21:35 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: Netherlands, Elisabeth doesn't score anywhere 60% does she? | May 23 21:36 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: Yeah, I know Freddie was the true era. I was just staying contemporary. :) | May 23 21:36 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl, yeah, our bloodline was chosen by god, that's why we're in charge, it's why we'll alwyas be in charge....and oh by the way, you lot pay for us to live a life of luxury | May 23 21:36 |
| ThistleWeb | that royatly? | May 23 21:36 |
| _Goblin | gde33, so this new world order where everyone is free of domination is quite happy to have a queen? | May 23 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:35] <gde33> 60% of the people here love having a queen. | May 23 21:36 |
| GoForbes28 | With genetic disorders due to a lack of genetic variation | May 23 21:36 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: it wouldn't bother me | May 23 21:36 |
| schestowitz | So that's like 20% of guys? | May 23 21:36 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: even a financial elite wouldn't be a problem | May 23 21:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Haemophilia anyone? | May 23 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | gay pride parades love having many more than just one queen | May 23 21:37 |
| _Goblin | gde33, so after all that.....you are happy to be "under" someone who by luck of birth only is classed as better than you? | May 23 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Holland must have a queen. Otherwise there would be... no currency?! | May 23 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | Jools? | May 23 21:37 |
| gde33 | _Goblin: it shouldnt be considered something important. | May 23 21:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Canada's royality situation is apthetic | May 23 21:37 |
| _Goblin | what? | May 23 21:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Can't wait to see Prince William meet up with our great android dictator | May 23 21:38 |
| _Goblin | gde33, Youve just gone on about corruption, control, conditioning and now you say that you are happy to be under a queen? Happy to be under someone who by birth only has domination over you? | May 23 21:38 |
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| gde33 | _Goblin: exactly | May 23 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | not important? lol, just one of those minor lil details we won't even address until we get there rofl | May 23 21:39 |
| _Goblin | Ive just completely wasted my time...... | May 23 21:39 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: he's SACRED! | May 23 21:39 |
| gde33 | ThistleWeb: exactly | May 23 21:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Schestowitz: So what about "Paidoff"? | May 23 21:39 |
| gde33 | by the time we get there they will be something cheap | May 23 21:39 |
| _Goblin | after all that, all those implications of how we have got it wrong, and all the time happy to serve a queen? - Am I the only one here who has now lost the will to live with this viewpoint? | May 23 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | and you think this is a credible system? | May 23 21:39 |
| gde33 | our queen doesn't make rules or laws | May 23 21:39 |
| _Goblin | thats worse | May 23 21:40 |
| _Goblin | shes a person who is better than you would contributes nothing. | May 23 21:40 |
| _Goblin | sort of a benevelant god. | May 23 21:40 |
| gde33 | oh but she does have an important role | May 23 21:40 |
| ThistleWeb | I for one, ain't wasting any more time or energy with this stuff, your system has more plot holes than the bible | May 23 21:40 |
| _Goblin | and whats that pray tell | May 23 21:40 |
| _Goblin | its got more holes in it than IE | May 23 21:40 |
| gde33 | when government corruption goes to far there still is some one who can do something | May 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: nothing special | May 23 21:40 |
| gde33 | no system is perfect | May 23 21:41 |
| _Goblin | and what if the queen is corrupt? | May 23 21:41 |
| _Goblin | gde33, and thats what we said from the beginning. | May 23 21:41 |
| GoForbes28 | Schestowitz: Must have been special enough to mention | May 23 21:41 |
| gde33 | the queen doesnt have to be | May 23 21:41 |
| _Goblin | neither does a government | May 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I think the royal family is good for tourism? | May 23 21:41 |
| gde33 | it is like a museum | May 23 21:41 |
| ThistleWeb | is prince philip good for tourettes? | May 23 21:42 |
| schestowitz | THe whole royal wedding is part of reliving the myth | May 23 21:42 |
| _Goblin | at 26 million per security jaunt? She doesn't bring that in.... | May 23 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I guess... | May 23 21:42 |
| _Goblin | the cost of the Royal family I would guess far exceeds that of what tourism they bring in | May 23 21:42 |
| schestowitz | What would you do with the palace? | May 23 21:42 |
| ThistleWeb | they do bring in a lot, but the life of luxury they live, takes almost all that net gain, if it even is a net gain | May 23 21:42 |
| _Goblin | I'd turn it into a massive LUG for London | May 23 21:42 |
| GoForbes28 | !google daily show royal wedding jon stewart | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Uncensored - The Wedding Banners - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart ... | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-3-2011/exclusive---the-wedding-banners-uncensored | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Royal Wedding Excitement in London - The Daily Show with Jon ... | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-28-2011/royal-wedding-excitement-in-london | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Katedown to the Royal Willding - The Daily Show Home | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-27-2011/katedown-to-the-royal-willding---the-nuptials-of-the-century | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Jon Stewart Shows Animated Simulation of the Royal Wedding (VIDEO) | http://www.tvsquad.com/2011/05/04/jon-stewart-animated-simulation-royal-wedding/ | May 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | LUG? | May 23 21:43 |
| _Goblin | Linux User Group | May 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | !google royal wedding cost 8 billion | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Royal Wedding could cost UK economy $50 billion | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709431/posts | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - PressTV - Royal wedding holiday costs UK $9.8bn | http://www.presstv.ir/detail/176986.html | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - How The Royal Wedding Equates to Commoner Matrimony - | http://www.visualeconomics.com/how-the-royal-wedding-equates-to-commoner-matrimony/ | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Royal Wedding could cost UK economy $50 billion - CBS Evening News ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/22/eveningnews/main20056608.shtml | May 23 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | !google royal wedding canada visit | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Governor General of Canada > Visit to London - Royal Wedding | http://www.gg.ca/document.aspx%3Fid%3D14088 | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BBC News - Royal wedding: Kate and William to visit Canada | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12485015 | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - canada tour | Royal wedding, Prince William and Kate Middleton | http://royalweddings.hellomagazine.com/tags/prince-william-and-kate-middleton/canada-tour | May 23 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Genealogy Canada: Canada's Royal Wedding Gifts | http://genealogycanada.blogspot.com/2011/04/canadas-royal-wedding-gifts.html | May 23 21:43 |
| _Goblin | install Ubuntu whilst eating cucumber sandwiches | May 23 21:43 |
| GoForbes28 | ick | May 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: some girls will pass out screaming deliriously | May 23 21:44 |
| _Goblin | afternoon tea with Richard Stallman | May 23 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Tea from Coca Cola-owned company? | May 23 21:44 |
| _Goblin | rename all the Corgies to linux distros | May 23 21:44 |
| ThistleWeb | only with gnu/teabags | May 23 21:44 |
| _Goblin | Sabayon - he's the quick one. | May 23 21:44 |
| GoForbes28 | I would rather attend RMS's wedding | May 23 21:44 |
| _Goblin | Ubuntu - he's the friendly one | May 23 21:44 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: modifiable ingredients | May 23 21:45 |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, in reply to the non-event on the weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnpB8b-DfL0 | May 23 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Genesis - Jesus He Knows Me [Official Music Video] .::. Size~: 99.94 KB | May 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: he probably won't get married.. no point to it | May 23 21:45 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: I was just using that as a point of comparison :P | May 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ok | May 23 21:45 |
| ThistleWeb | that's the point of marriage though, to have your point regularly taken | May 23 21:46 |
| GoForbes28 | Hell, I'd rather be at *your* wedding | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | what did Stallman do? | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Look at Price William | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | His family bought him a sit on a heli | May 23 21:46 |
| ThistleWeb | or to regularly give your point...... | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | It's not cheap | May 23 21:46 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: RMS did 100x more things | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | The Bushes also had to corrupt some people for their son, Georgie | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Then they did coverup, destroying the files | May 23 21:46 |
| _Goblin | brb smoke. | May 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | William is like a superhero in a scratch-book | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | They have to write the plot | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | What he occupation is and how he behaves | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | ANd then they render it, selecting career and stuff to fit the plot | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | And Henry plays the villian | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | There's no good film without a villain | May 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | !google henry dresses up as nazi | May 23 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Henry Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford | May 23 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Harry says sorry for dressing up as Nazi - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1481056/Harry-says-sorry-for-dressing-up-as-Nazi.html | May 23 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Candidate responds to charge he dressed as Nazi – CNN Political ... | http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/09/candidate-responds-to-charge-he-dressed-as-nazi/ | May 23 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Urban Dictionary: prince harry | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dprince%2520harry | May 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <TechrightsBot-tr> [2] - BBC News - Royal wedding: Kate and William to visit Canada | May 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | World tour | May 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Reruns, get your tickets now | May 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | "For her next act, Kate will.." | May 23 21:49 |
| GoForbes28 | Against, can't wait for the Harper-Williams meet up | May 23 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @sergiomeneses Community team plan for #oneiric http://is.gd/4vojAp @jonobacon !ubuntu #locoteams | May 23 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Daniel Holbach: Getting people involved http://goo.gl/WgHoT | May 23 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Launchpad Blog: Coming soon: improved bug subscriptions http://goo.gl/qAwqZ | May 23 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Launchpad Blog: Congrats, nigelb and chrisjohnston! http://goo.gl/vi2Ff | May 23 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thank you @SenRandPaul for defending 4th Amendment rights in #PATRIOTAct debate; watch now on CSPAN2 at https://eff.org/r.56A | May 23 21:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Community Team Plans For Oneiric | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 37.35 KB | May 23 21:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Getting people involved | Daniel Holbach’s blog .::. Size~: 23.62 KB | May 23 21:50 |
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| GoForbes28 | Beige alert | May 23 21:50 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/fLJRB.jpg | May 23 21:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 23 21:52 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz :? | May 23 21:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] "Thank you, we've received your unsubscribe request." Yes, but what are you *doing* with it? | May 23 21:57 | |
| GoForbes28 | I don't get the context relation to this conversation... | May 23 21:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Jornada (Mexico): Encuestas Alteradas: Peña Nieto paga por resultados favorables | http://is.gd/Rq3IIR | May 23 21:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: El mandatario mexiquense "financia empresas encuestadoras que den resultados a su favor" — Wikileaks en La Jornada .::. Size~: 43.63 KB | May 23 21:58 |
| _Goblin | Well..... | May 23 22:00 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: ... | May 23 22:00 |
| _Goblin | thats been twice in the last few days when the topics discussed have been rather.....different and heated should be fair to say.... | May 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Non-functional Data | May 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Data that isn't functional, that doesn't do a practical job, is more of an adornment to the system's software than a part of it. Thus, we don't insist on the free license criteria for non-functional data. It can be included in a free system distribution as long as its license gives you permission to copy and redistribute, both for commercial and non-commercial purposes. For example, some game engines released under the GNU GPL have accompanying game in | May 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | formation—a fictional world map, game graphics, and so on—released under such a verbatim-distribution license. This kind of data can be part of a free system distribution, even though its license does not qualify as free, because it is non-functional. | May 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds like Sauerbraten-Data to me | May 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | and a lot of other game data Fedora won't package | May 23 22:01 |
| _Goblin | I'm often dubious of any text that contains "Thus" | May 23 22:01 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Aha | May 23 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] O dedo na ferida portuguesa - http://blog.1407.org/?p=1217 Fartei-me de baboseira. Não votem neles. | May 23 22:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | the engine is under the zlib license (free software), and the game data is under a license that meets the FSF's acceptable non functional data definition | May 23 22:02 |
| GoForbes28 | Data does not weight: http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/But_Data_does_not_weight | May 23 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: But Data does not weight - Encyclopedia Dramatica .::. Size~: 16.64 KB | May 23 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] I have defeated the mighty NYT paywall with Firebug. Hiya! | May 23 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Apple tells Lodsys to stop threatening iOS developers; @AppAdvice has details: https://eff.org/r.45E | May 23 22:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple Grabs Patent Troll Where It Counts (Full Text) -- AppAdvice .::. Size~: 25.28 KB | May 23 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Strangely, however, the company didn’t go after Apple, but rather iOS developers." | May 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | What's strange about that? | May 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Apple has deep pockets, and it's easier to beat settlements out of small developers that can't fight them. | May 23 22:07 |
| GoForbes28 | Go for the weaker points, make sense | May 23 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just been force-logged out of #Minecraft. Oo | May 23 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I fear I have to go to bed now... | May 23 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Jornada (Mexico): Para EU, Peña Nieto está hecho en el molde del anquilosado PRI | http://is.gd/Ui783C | May 23 22:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Para EU, Peña Nieto está hecho en el molde del anquilosado PRI — Wikileaks en La Jornada .::. Size~: 46.32 KB | May 23 22:08 |
| _Goblin | mmm.... | May 23 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC | If I was Apple, I would assign my legal department to defend the developers the patent troll sues | May 23 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: mmm mmm? | May 23 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Somehow I don't see Apple doing that | May 23 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Making the case for MeeGo http://bit.ly/mHOXbl via @intomobile #meegoconf | May 23 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rsuplido: I'm at @geekygirldawn's State of the Community talk: http://t.co/Cmxxeoa #MeeGoConf | May 23 22:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] La Jornada (Mexico): El pacto AN-PRI se anunció antes a Washington | http://is.gd/maQdLG | May 23 22:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: El pacto AN-PRI se anunció antes a Washington — Wikileaks en La Jornada .::. Size~: 40.05 KB | May 23 22:13 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: Wanna coedit? | May 23 22:16 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Is it on the wiki? | May 23 22:17 |
| schestowitz | It's an easy proofreading thing and you can add your own interpretation | May 23 22:17 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I'll put it up | May 23 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I want two people's opinion because it enhances the message | May 23 22:17 |
| schestowitz | As long as the edits are not colliding | May 23 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Like changing the other person's sentences, except proofreading both ways | May 23 22:18 |
| _Goblin | gde33 I saw the "publish" you did.....shame it missed off the royalty revelations. | May 23 22:19 |
| _Goblin | gde33, infact it seems to conveniently stop just after I declared I would be back after a smoke. | May 23 22:20 |
| _Goblin | it got interesting after that point.... | May 23 22:21 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: only if you can edit today... | May 23 22:21 |
| schestowitz | cause these are time-sensitive | May 23 22:21 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: I can | May 23 22:26 |
| GoForbes28 | ready? | May 23 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @m3tti @laurelrusswurm great to hear. Feel free to join us in irc too ;) and spread the word !trisquel is awesome easy as !ubuntu fre ... | May 23 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Interview with Jared Smith (@jsmith), Fedora Project Leader: http://2tu.us/3cbq | May 23 22:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview with Jared Smith, Fedora Project Leader | PC Perspective .::. Size~: 35.47 KB | May 23 22:32 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: sure | May 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Hold on | May 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | uploading | May 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | tornado sirens | May 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | shit | May 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | bbl | May 23 22:34 |
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| Faither | good evening lads! ^^ | May 23 22:35 |
| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC is experiencing a tornado | May 23 22:35 |
| GoForbes28 | FYI | May 23 22:35 |
| Faither | Oh )= | May 23 22:35 |
| Faither | HOw is he? | May 23 22:35 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: 1. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Patenting_looholes | May 23 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | desudesudesu: that must be Dawn's fault | May 23 22:36 |
| schestowitz | oops | May 23 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Wrong highlight | May 23 22:36 |
| schestowitz | I wou;dn't manage to survive a tornado... no access to computer for a long while :-/ | May 23 22:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Faither: Don't know, he logged off right when you joined | May 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | one Linux sites I like was down for 3 days because of the storms | May 23 22:38 |
| Faither | I know that's why I asked, thought you had some inforation on his situation | May 23 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada blogged: Happy Victoria Day! http://ur1.ca/49cz1 #QueenVictoria | May 23 22:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy Victoria Day! « Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 38.61 KB | May 23 22:38 |
| GoForbes28 | faither: he also mentioned sirens right before you joined | May 23 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CIA conducted secret monitoring operations in Sweden http://is.gd/rd0Aya | May 23 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CIA Conducted Secret Operations in Sweden - International News - AllMediaNY .::. Size~: 31.98 KB | May 23 22:40 |
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| Faither | I hope he's all right then... sirens aren't a good sign | May 23 22:41 |
| Faither | just listening to techbytes. One issue I have with the ubuntu is that it kind of defeated the purpose of a live cd | May 23 22:44 |
| Faither | I always thought a live cd was there for using the system and try it out without changing your system but 11.04 does feature a gnome 2 live session | May 23 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Senate shamefully rushes to renew #PATRIOTAct for 4 years without reforms, votes 74 to 8 to limit debate, final vote expected by Wed. | May 23 22:45 | |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: second one up now http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Apple_under_fire_for_apathy_in_the_face_of_patent_trolls_it_fed | May 23 22:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple under fire for apathy in the face of patent trolls it fed - Techrights .::. Size~: 28.46 KB | May 23 22:47 |
| Faither | what's the point of having a live cd then? | May 23 22:47 |
| Faither | or what's the point I'm missing | May 23 22:47 |
| GoForbes28 | wow, this is surreal | May 23 22:48 |
| Faither | ß | May 23 22:48 |
| Faither | ? | May 23 22:48 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, roy, I may have a conflict of interests here | May 23 22:49 |
| GoForbes28 | On the first article | May 23 22:50 |
| GoForbes28 | on second thought, n/m | May 23 22:50 |
| GoForbes28 | disregard | May 23 22:50 |
| GoForbes28 | Roy, what is "Bilski LLLL"? | May 23 22:51 |
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| GoForbes28 | DaemonFC: Are you alright? | May 23 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, just a huge storm with some hail | May 23 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | still raining | May 23 22:55 |
| GoForbes28 | no tornado? | May 23 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | not that I saw | May 23 22:55 |
| GoForbes28 | that's good | May 23 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I put Jabba in the bathroom under a blanket | May 23 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | then went outside to see what was going on | May 23 22:55 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: LLL means I'll add a link later | May 23 22:56 |
| schestowitz | leave it as it is if you prefer | May 23 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | storms scare him anyway, I had to dig him out from under the couch | May 23 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | bathroom is probably the most structurally sound place here | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | 10 KG cat... | May 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | center of the house | May 23 22:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC would die for his pussy, Jabba | May 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | he's my buddy :P | May 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to let anything happen to him | May 23 22:57 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: I would like to skip the first article due to personal conflict | May 23 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | the temperature dropped from 85 to 61 over the last half hour | May 23 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually kind of nice now | May 23 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I notice the GTK+ 3 apps don't tend to work well in KDE | May 23 23:00 |
| MinceR | gn | May 23 23:00 |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | May 23 23:01 | |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: gn | May 23 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Spamtron, "bbq sandwich", and µBlagging. This is it, folks, the life. | May 23 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: changed editors page to say "G. Forbes" | May 23 23:10 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: ok, no problem | May 23 23:11 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Thx and thx | May 23 23:11 |
| GoForbes28 | It sucks that I can't, and I do agree with what you are saying. | May 23 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] you'd think high winds would be a good thing to help dissipate & clear a volcanic ash cloud, certainly faster than still air #Scotland | May 23 23:12 | |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, how do I access things like "cref 48421 1"? | May 23 23:12 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I understand | May 23 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @michelenlared: Pre #Unity #Ubuntu Netbook Launcher is resurrected; put in a #PPA http://t.co/CAZIVf0 #unity | May 23 23:13 | |
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| schestowitz | It's safe to play along with conformism sometimes | May 23 23:13 |
| schestowitz | But conformists never bring change | May 23 23:14 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: put techrights.org/?p=[NUMBER] | May 23 23:14 |
| schestowitz | it will show you the post by the ID/NUMBE | May 23 23:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't want to conform here roy | May 23 23:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Let's just say it hits too close to home for me | May 23 23:19 |
| schestowitz | oh., ok | May 23 23:19 |
| schestowitz | no worried | May 23 23:20 |
| schestowitz | *rries | May 23 23:20 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I typed them down at the gym today | May 23 23:20 |
| schestowitz | So I didn't have access to a good editor | May 23 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Sorry for the mess | May 23 23:20 |
| GoForbes28 | I mean, the content of the article is fine to me, but perhaps not to other people who I happen to know and like to disclose... | May 23 23:20 |
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| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: No prob | May 23 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Basically the key references are there and some connecting passages | May 23 23:20 |
| GoForbes28 | What do you mean by "after similar action, so this is a global issue that needs to be addressed urgently."? | May 23 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | the issue is software patents and it affects all continents | May 23 23:21 |
| schestowitz | no matter where the developers live | May 23 23:21 |
| schestowitz | the app stores distributes in many countries | May 23 23:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Were you trying to say something like "With a case like this affecting iOS app developers, it should be made clear by now that the abusing of software patents is a global issue that needs to be addressed urgently" | May 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | out of cigarettes | May 23 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | do I go out in that to get more? :P | May 23 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | nah | May 23 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] El Salvador: Cómo llegar a WikiLeaks http://alturl.com/7kfcy | May 23 23:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cómo llegar a WikiLeaks - ElFaro.net .::. Size~: 52.19 KB | May 23 23:23 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, I'll use that sentence anyway | May 23 23:24 |
| GoForbes28 | :P | May 23 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Hey! | May 23 23:28 |
| trmanco | hey schestowitz | May 23 23:28 |
| schestowitz | TechrightsBot-tr's daddy is here | May 23 23:29 |
| trmanco | how's it going? | May 23 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Good, and you? | May 23 23:29 |
| trmanco | great, thanks :) | May 23 23:29 |
| schestowitz | How's life going? | May 23 23:29 |
| trmanco | pretty good | May 23 23:29 |
| trmanco | joined the gym 3 months ago | May 23 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Your software is thakfulyl immlortal, used more than ever before | May 23 23:30 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: I am starting a company related to that with a friend | May 23 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody Caution on that "Call for Caution on Open Source" - http://bit.ly/jkQEOu I think some of you may enjoy this one... #fud #g ... | May 23 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Caution on that "Call for Caution on Open Source" - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.2 KB | May 23 23:30 |
| trmanco | opening a gym or something? | May 23 23:30 |
| schestowitz | gave you a link | May 23 23:30 |
| schestowitz | But it's private | May 23 23:30 |
| schestowitz | we only started some days ago (site) | May 23 23:31 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: no | May 23 23:31 |
| schestowitz | And it's unrelated to my current jobs in IT | May 23 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I work in my field of research | May 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | And also in London | May 23 23:33 |
| trmanco | well, I've been only working out for 3 months and I can already see a huge difference... strength wise and not just that | May 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Cool. | May 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | You can talk about these issues in -social | May 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | So as not to dilute etch issues :-) | May 23 23:34 |
| trmanco | sorry, got carried away | May 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | No, not at all.. | May 23 23:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How El Salvador's El Faro (the lighthouse) partnered with WikiLeaks http://is.gd/jXJuoy | May 23 23:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Mickos, Eucalyptus & CLAs "When somebody contributes to us we require them to sign over copyright but so does the FSF": http://wmk.me/k0AtOj | May 23 23:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks El Salvador: what the cables say about the history of US involvement http://is.gd/jXJuoy | May 23 23:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Fuduntu 14.10 RC Released With A New Installation Customization Tool http://ping.fm/CmX9B | May 23 23:45 | |
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| GoForbes28 | bb in 30 minutes tops | May 23 23:47 |
| GoForbes28 | I have saved what I have done with the second article | May 23 23:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @humbertobz The 9 Secret Burdens of Being a !Linux User http://goo.gl/NgLwn (by @loserslikeus) | May 23 23:53 | |
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| schestowitz | GoForbes28: thanks buddy | May 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I've meanwhile prepared some other articles | May 23 23:57 |
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