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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jselzer: Nvidia bei Ubuntu 11.04 kann man übrigens bisher komplett vergessen. Da funktioniert nicht einmal die Paketverwaltung.Apr 30 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US embassy probes anti-American attitudes of Canadian universities #wlcanApr 30 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I realized today that I have never laughed at Cyanid and HappinessApr 30 00:26
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tessieramarsh04: Posting to LKML is risky business these days. :) Unless you really know what you are doing.Apr 30 00:50
tessierWay back when I was a linux newbie and lkml didn't get much traffic I posted a few times about silly stuff.Apr 30 00:50
tessierBut as traffic picked up quickly I had to stop that.Apr 30 00:50
oiaohmtessier: LKML is a very busy place with a full time population of quite a few thousand.Apr 30 00:52
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tessierIndeed.Apr 30 00:54
tessierI haven't posted since around '94.Apr 30 00:55
tessierBut I have been subscribed continuously.Apr 30 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note. Only unclassified Canadian cables released so far this week. Classified soon.Apr 30 00:56
_Goblinschestowitz: good show! cheers! - Off for a smoke nowApr 30 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Washington manoevered to get Ban Ki Moon 30 01:01
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schestowitz_Goblin: early in thr show you spoke close to the micApr 30 01:04
schestowitzbreathing a bitApr 30 01:04
schestowitzbass clashesApr 30 01:04
schestowitzIt improved laterApr 30 01:04
sebsebsebok  schestowitz still around?Apr 30 01:16
sebsebseband _Goblin yeah?Apr 30 01:16
schestowitzyesApr 30 01:16
sebsebsebsoreau you here?Apr 30 01:16
schestowitzencoding atmApr 30 01:16
_Goblinschestowitz: damn....more mic moving I think...Apr 30 01:16
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive noticed sometimes the mic scrapes on my stubble too.Apr 30 01:17
sebsebsebanyway soreau a upstream Compiz developer,  and he's going to do something with wayland as well it seems, and it seems that he may want to be on the show as wellApr 30 01:17
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz So did either of you watch any of the royal wedding stuff?Apr 30 01:19
sebsebseb:DApr 30 01:19
*sebsebseb was going to maybe listen to an older episode of the show last night, but then didn't, and probably not tonight eitherApr 30 01:22
_Goblinsebsebseb: nope...Apr 30 01:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: Why not?Apr 30 01:24
_Goblinsebsebseb: I think I caught about 3 seconds as I walked through the living room.Apr 30 01:24
_Goblinsebsebseb: not really my thing......Apr 30 01:24
sebsebsebwasn't really planning on watching it, but turned the TV on after they got married a bit after, and  so on from there really for a bitApr 30 01:24
_Goblinsebsebseb: I will no doubt see hours of repeats on the news over the coming daysApr 30 01:25
sebsebsebI was supprised that other people here weren't already watching itApr 30 01:25
sebsebsebso  them go back, and the balcony kisses with the planes going over, and  when they got married on the news repated and such.  Apr 30 01:25
_Goblinsebsebseb: I suppose unless Kate had stood him up at the alter the whole thing was quite predictable.Apr 30 01:25
sebsebseb,but then blah de blah  later on and such, and nope not watched that :)Apr 30 01:25
sebsebseb_Goblin: some peopole very anti the wedding it seems, going by IdenticaApr 30 01:26
DaemonFCwho the FUCK cares about that SHIT?Apr 30 01:26
sebsebseband I wonder why that is?Apr 30 01:26
DaemonFCyou may now return to your regularly scheduled conversationApr 30 01:26
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well quite a few people going to London from other countereis, because of thisApr 30 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Found out why the #CRIA opposes The #Amazon Music Locker. They want the right to control all music, even if they didn't record it.Apr 30 01:26
sebsebsebmany people camped out on the pavementApr 30 01:26
sebsebsebI should say went to London aboveApr 30 01:26
_GoblinI have no interest in it.......however I suppose there are many people who had a great day......Apr 30 01:26
sebsebsebpeople from Canada, and China or whatever evenApr 30 01:26
DaemonFCthat just shows you how stupid people can beApr 30 01:26
DaemonFCno better use for the money than to fly to a foreign country and sit your ass on the pavement outside a stranger's wedding?Apr 30 01:27
sebsebseb_Goblin: well it was one of those days, like it or not, it's going down in British HistoryApr 30 01:27
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 01:27
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh, but it's the royalsApr 30 01:27
_Goblinsebsebseb: it would have been more of a day in british history if she hadn't turned up...or William had been drunk at the alter after the stag do.Apr 30 01:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: so not just anyone  blah de blah :DApr 30 01:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: my little brother was watching some of that as well, and kept on saying how boring it was and such :dApr 30 01:28
sebsebseband was being quite noisy evenApr 30 01:28
DaemonFC_Goblin, Malt liquor could have made that interestingApr 30 01:28
sebsebseband I was like to him, uh right ok, but you got a day off school, because of this, you should be thankful or somethingApr 30 01:28
DaemonFCbut that's a what if :)Apr 30 01:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: and so he was like, I would rather be at schoolApr 30 01:28
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im wearing a t-shirt for the occassionApr 30 01:29
sebsebseband so I am like, well ok go to school then, be in the field on your own or somethingApr 30 01:29
_Goblinsebsebseb: you can see it on the youtube vid....Apr 30 01:29
sebsebsebDaemonFC: jono even has some sort of issue  with the Royals it seems, going by his ustream on WednesdayApr 30 01:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: as for what exactly well we don't knowApr 30 01:30
DaemonFCThey're not doing it with UbuntuApr 30 01:30
DaemonFCjono is not a happy bacon manApr 30 01:30
DaemonFCB-)Apr 30 01:30
_Goblinsebsebseb: what issue? they didn't use Severed Fifth music in Westminster Abbey for the wedding? ;)Apr 30 01:31
_Goblinnow I would have watched that.Apr 30 01:31
DaemonFCLMFAOApr 30 01:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: hehApr 30 01:31
DaemonFCme tooApr 30 01:31
_GoblinBeating Heart is a fantastic track....would have gone down a storm when they exchanged vows.Apr 30 01:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: did you see schestowitz dent about Jnoo being on ustream by the way?Apr 30 01:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: that seemed like a sort of troll to me hmmApr 30 01:31
DaemonFC_Goblin, STOP IT.....CAN'T BREATHE!!!!!Apr 30 01:32
DaemonFCI beg youApr 30 01:32
DaemonFC:PApr 30 01:32
schestowitz[01:16] <_Goblin> schestowitz: damn....more mic moving I think...Apr 30 01:32
schestowitz<_Goblin> schestowitz: damn....more mic moving I think...Apr 30 01:32
schestowitzProbably. You'll hear it in the file I encode at the momentApr 30 01:32
schestowitz<_Goblin> schestowitz: Ive noticed sometimes the mic scrapes on my stubble too.Apr 30 01:32
schestowitzyes, that too, now I know what that sound is caused byApr 30 01:32
_GoblinI think the show notes will be here tomorrow...I'm bushed.....Apr 30 01:32
schestowitzI will release both todayApr 30 01:33
_Goblin:)Apr 30 01:33
schestowitzvideo in a minute...Apr 30 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @neilhimself: Wife's method of tidying consists of moving everything I brought into hall outside. I'm nude & cannot find clothes. BuggerApr 30 01:33
schestowitzHopefullyApr 30 01:33
DaemonFCoh hell, if you want to talk Severed Fifth, jono doesn't do it with Ubuntu eitherApr 30 01:33
DaemonFCjono does that with Vista7Apr 30 01:33
_Goblinwe'll let him off because the music is damn good!Apr 30 01:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh a video?Apr 30 01:33
_GoblinYep...Apr 30 01:34
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Uhmm  if ask Jono quite a few questions that he probably doesn't really want to answer, he may not want to come on again hmmApr 30 01:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 28-Apr-11 01:14:35 UTC - Mr. @jonobacon has agreed to be on a future show of !techbytes - can ask him why he defended Novell, which sold #swpats to #microsoft #cptnApr 30 01:34
DaemonFCThey must have given him some unreleased Windows 7 that doesn't have a lagtastic sound mixerApr 30 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Ah, my favourite quote. FAIL! #sgelectionApr 30 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @_ekac_: RT @An0nJ: #GoodNewsBitches @Sony is being sued!Apr 30 01:34
_Goblinsebsebseb: Ive found Jono very upfront and direct....I don't think there is any question he wouldn't answer.Apr 30 01:35
sebsebseb_Goblin: ,but sure then again, in ustream it's pretty people asking him whatever they want,   and he answers, tells people not to ask questions with their system thoughApr 30 01:35
sebsebseb_Goblin: even answered some questions, that he probably shoudn't have really answered here and thereApr 30 01:35
jonoI would be happy to come on for an interviewApr 30 01:35
jono:-)Apr 30 01:35
_Goblin:)Apr 30 01:36
jonoschestowitz is welcome to grill me :-)Apr 30 01:36
_Goblinhi jonoApr 30 01:36
jono_Goblin, heya palApr 30 01:36
jonohows things?Apr 30 01:36
sebsebseb_Goblin: pretty people above?  I meant to put,  pretty much people....Apr 30 01:36
_Goblinnot bad...just delving into the realms of video with Roy.....Apr 30 01:36
sebsebsebjono: shame that in my expereine quite a lot of the Ubuntu Community Members, really aren't as nice as you, by a long wayApr 30 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My favourite quote. PAP patriarch's BS. 30 01:36
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DaemonFCjono can't not be cool, he was ahead of the bacon meme by at least 20 yearsApr 30 01:37
jonosebsebseb, it depends what you mean by community members - actual Ubuntu members are generally really niceApr 30 01:37
jononot everyone who uses Ubuntu is a member ;-)Apr 30 01:37
jonoDaemonFC, totally, dudeApr 30 01:37
jonoI own that shitApr 30 01:37
jonololApr 30 01:37
sebsebsebjono: well I meant some of them that are from the IRC communityApr 30 01:37
_GoblinIve a question Jono.......Apr 30 01:37
jono_Goblin, sure!Apr 30 01:37
_Goblinthis is probably going to be the hardest question you ever have answered.......Apr 30 01:37
_Goblin(building suspence)Apr 30 01:37
_Goblin....Apr 30 01:37
jono:-)Apr 30 01:37
_GoblinWho is the hottest Dr Who assistant?Apr 30 01:38
jono_Goblin, hehe, you know, I have never really been into Dr WhoApr 30 01:38
_GoblinlolApr 30 01:38
_GoblincowardApr 30 01:38
jonoso I am not sure :-/Apr 30 01:38
_Goblinshame on you.Apr 30 01:38
jonoentirely :-)Apr 30 01:38
sebsebsebjono: You suer you want to be on a interview? I mean look at what schestowitz seems to want to ask you!: 30 01:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 28-Apr-11 01:14:35 UTC - Mr. @jonobacon has agreed to be on a future show of !techbytes - can ask him why he defended Novell, which sold #swpats to #microsoft #cptnApr 30 01:38
_GoblinIts on tomorow....I shall grill you about Dr Who when you come on the show!Apr 30 01:38
jonosebsebseb, I saw that, I am happy for him to ask me anything :-)Apr 30 01:39
jono_Goblin, hehe :-)Apr 30 01:39
_Goblinexcept Dr Who triviaApr 30 01:39
jonoso when do I get to go on the show?Apr 30 01:39
jonois there a date?Apr 30 01:39
_Goblinanytime you want mate, you are always welcomeApr 30 01:39
jono_Goblin, when do you record?Apr 30 01:39
schestowitzVideo is goodApr 30 01:39
schestowitzWill unleashApr 30 01:40
schestowitzquestion thoughApr 30 01:40
schestowitzdo you get audio and vidoe out of synchApr 30 01:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: so it's a video of what, you and _Goblin ?Apr 30 01:40
_Goblinjono a sort of regular weekly....depends on work as to the day.Apr 30 01:40
schestowitzaudio coming ahead  of video?Apr 30 01:40
jonoschestowitz it is a video show?Apr 30 01:40
jonoI can do video if neededApr 30 01:40
schestowitzI just need to know whether to forewarnApr 30 01:40
jonowant to do it next week?Apr 30 01:40
sebsebsebjono: no it's a audiocast, but they are starting to  do some videos now as well it seemsApr 30 01:40
jonocoolApr 30 01:40
schestowitzjono: we would love to have you on :-)Apr 30 01:40
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sebsebsebhi SolbuApr 30 01:41
sebsebsebuh wrong oneApr 30 01:41
sebsebsebsoreauApr 30 01:41
_Goblinschestowitz: does this mean I can bring back my death metal tracks for the show?Apr 30 01:41
schestowitzjono: no grillingApr 30 01:41
jonoschestowitz sounds great, lets just figure out a time next weekApr 30 01:41
schestowitzI was joking at the timeApr 30 01:41
jonoschestowitz, _Goblin you guys can feel free to ask my anything, don't feel restrictedApr 30 01:41
schestowitzjono: yayApr 30 01:41
sebsebsebjono: well not when your ustream is, or quite a lot of people won't be happy :DApr 30 01:41
schestowitzwe have Richard Stallman com9ing tooApr 30 01:41
jonoheheApr 30 01:41
jonocoolApr 30 01:41
_Goblinjono: I'll be asking about your Severed Fifth material....Apr 30 01:42
jono_Goblin, :-)Apr 30 01:42
sebsebsebjono: hehe at me I assumeApr 30 01:42
jonoso how do you do interviews?Apr 30 01:42
schestowitzwe promote Creative Commons stuffApr 30 01:42
jonovia Skype?Apr 30 01:42
_GoblinyepApr 30 01:42
jonocoolApr 30 01:42
sebsebsebjono: they are also starting to use SIPApr 30 01:42
jonodo you guys record in UK evening?Apr 30 01:42
sebsebsebI thinkApr 30 01:42
_GoblinyepApr 30 01:42
_Goblintonight was a late oneApr 30 01:42
DaemonFC 30 01:43
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DaemonFCVLC is working againApr 30 01:43
_Goblinwe were messing on sharing desktops and getting video working.Apr 30 01:43
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 01:43
DaemonFCsomething got fixed somewhereApr 30 01:43
jonoso maybe Tuesday at 7pm UK?Apr 30 01:43
jonoschestowitz, _Goblin ^^Apr 30 01:43
_Goblintuesday......I think thats good with me.Apr 30 01:43
sebsebsebjono: and then you can mention it the day after in ustream to people even :dApr 30 01:44
jonocool, well if that works for you schestowitz, then Tues at 7pm UK works for meApr 30 01:44
_Goblinjono: youve actually already had quite a few mentions on the show.....and your music has been featured too.Apr 30 01:44
_Goblinmy favorite track....Apr 30 01:45
jono_Goblin, oh thanks!Apr 30 01:45
_GoblinBeating Heart....cracking work there jonoApr 30 01:45
jonomuch appreciated :-)Apr 30 01:45
jonoI am actually thinking about recording an acoustic album for charityApr 30 01:45
jonoone featuring a bunch of songs I wrote for my wifeApr 30 01:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: oh of course the Jono Bacon, must have his music at the end :)Apr 30 01:45
_Goblinits difficult to pick a favourite, but after much soul searching Beating Heart got the award.Apr 30 01:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: and maybe a bit more than just one track?Apr 30 01:45
jonorecord the album, make it CC, and raise money for a charity for itApr 30 01:45
sebsebseb_Goblin: JonoBacon epsidoe aboveApr 30 01:45
sebsebsebepisodeApr 30 01:46
jonomany thanks, _Goblin :-)Apr 30 01:46
_Goblinjono: cool idea....Apr 30 01:46
*sebsebseb should catch up on TechbytesApr 30 01:46
_GoblinIm really tempted to put my questions to you know re: severed fifth however I'll wait until you are on the show....Apr 30 01:46
_Goblinbut just one teaser........Apr 30 01:46
jono:-)Apr 30 01:46
*sebsebseb looks forwarding to seeing whatever the video is as well, that _Goblin and schestowitz just mentioendApr 30 01:47
*sebsebseb has a vide to watch properly of Richard Stallman as well, not seen that yet.Apr 30 01:47
sebsebsebnot even seen teh UDS  keynote of mark yet about UnityApr 30 01:47
_Goblinwho do you prefer...... Satch or Steve Vai?Apr 30 01:47
DaemonFC 30 01:48
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DaemonFCB-)Apr 30 01:48
jono_Goblin, ooh, good oneApr 30 01:48
_Goblinyou could be mean and say you will tell me on the show!Apr 30 01:48
jono_Goblin, I prefer Satch's songs, he writes great tunes and has great arrangements, but I prefer Vai's soloing styleApr 30 01:49
jono:-)Apr 30 01:49
_Goblinfair comment.....Apr 30 01:49
jono:-)Apr 30 01:49
_GoblinI do hope your death metal knowledge is up to think you are going to be grilled on Ubuntu? Think again!!!!!Apr 30 01:50
_Goblin;)Apr 30 01:50
sebsebsebjono: we need a new Ubuntu log in sound for 11.10, ok your music should do the trick :D  like has been suggested by people in ustreamApr 30 01:50
DaemonFCUbuntu's kernels are crapApr 30 01:50
sebsebsebjono: new log in sound for Ubuntu above  I meanApr 30 01:51
jono_Goblin, hahaApr 30 01:51
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: =|Apr 30 01:51
jonosebsebseb, heheApr 30 01:51
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: lol ?Apr 30 01:51
jononot sure people need to hear my music when logging into UbuntuApr 30 01:51
jonololApr 30 01:51
Diablo-D3Im not sure if I should yell at you for promoting Microsoft Linux or not.Apr 30 01:51
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Why do you think that?Apr 30 01:51
jonoDiablo-D3, Microsoft Linux?Apr 30 01:51
Diablo-D3ubuntu == microsoft linuxApr 30 01:51
jonoDiablo-D3, oh, give me a break...Apr 30 01:51
DaemonFCmostly because Linux 2.6.38 is crapApr 30 01:51
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 01:51
Diablo-D3they ship mono on the install cd.Apr 30 01:51
jonoDiablo-D3, *yawn*Apr 30 01:52
jono:-)Apr 30 01:52
Diablo-D3[08:51:18] --- [jono] (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) : Jono BaconApr 30 01:52
Diablo-D3fail.Apr 30 01:52
jonoDiablo-D3, riiight :-)Apr 30 01:52
_Goblinthen Im an Microsoft MVP.....been deploying Ubuntu to users for the last 2 years.Apr 30 01:52
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: hmm at trolling jono againApr 30 01:52
Diablo-D3another microsoft apologist in the flesh.Apr 30 01:52
DaemonFCnow that we got to this point, because the direct rendering manager is WORTHLESS to free radeon usersApr 30 01:52
DaemonFCworthlessApr 30 01:52
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 01:52
jonoDiablo-D3, that's right...all hail Bill and SteveApr 30 01:52
DaemonFCbut 2.6.39 is a lot betterApr 30 01:52
jonokings of all that is awesomeApr 30 01:52
jonowith their stunning range of proprietary technologyApr 30 01:52
jono</sarcasm>Apr 30 01:52
DaemonFCjono signed up for Crapple's HumancentiPad programApr 30 01:53
DaemonFCB-)Apr 30 01:53
Diablo-D3neo-nazis get swastikas carved into their foreheads right? do microsoft apologists get the windows logo carved on theirs?Apr 30 01:53
_GoblinDiablo-D3: Why do you do this?Apr 30 01:53
jonoDiablo-D3, wow, making link to Nazis....that is a new oneApr 30 01:53
Diablo-D3_Goblin: because I hate anyone who attacks the hard work of free software developers.Apr 30 01:53
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: uhmm _Goblin schestowitz and me, were having a good chat with Jono  your ruining itApr 30 01:53
Diablo-D3this IS #techrights after all.Apr 30 01:53
jonoDiablo-D3, since when I have attacked the great work of Free Software developers?Apr 30 01:53
jonoDiablo-D3, I spent *every day* working on Free SoftwareApr 30 01:54
Diablo-D3jono: then quit ubuntu.Apr 30 01:54
_Goblincome on....Apr 30 01:54
jonoDiablo-D3, no thanksApr 30 01:54
jonoI quite like it :-)Apr 30 01:54
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah he's trolling us Diablo-D3 isApr 30 01:54
jonoDiablo-D3, so how do you help Free Software?Apr 30 01:54
_Goblinby insulting people it seems.Apr 30 01:54
Diablo-D3jono: by actually writing it.Apr 30 01:55
jonoDiablo-D3, which projects?Apr 30 01:55
Diablo-D3and no, Im not interested in having my work packaged for ubuntuApr 30 01:55
jonoDiablo-D3, which projects do you work on?Apr 30 01:55
Diablo-D3ubuntu has a serious habit of ignoring upstream developers and trashing their workApr 30 01:55
jono<jono> Diablo-D3, which projects do you work on?Apr 30 01:55
Diablo-D3jono: atm? I wrote the most used bitcoin gpu miner.Apr 30 01:56
jonoDiablo-D3, have a link to it?Apr 30 01:56
Diablo-D3I also contribute to various jboss projectsApr 30 01:56
jonowhat is the name of the app?Apr 30 01:56
soreauhi sebsebseb Apr 30 01:56
sebsebsebsoreau: good your hereApr 30 01:56
Diablo-D3jono: DiabloMiner, its on githubApr 30 01:56
sebsebsebsoreau: so want to be in Techbytes still possbily? to talk about stuff you do, compz upstream, and whatever your going to do with Wayland, and what not?Apr 30 01:56
jonoDiablo-D3, cool :-)Apr 30 01:56
sebsebsebsoreau: if so chat to _Goblin and  schestowitz about thatApr 30 01:57
sebsebsebor one fo themApr 30 01:57
jonoDiablo-D3, so how is your contribution better or more worthy than mine or anyone elses?Apr 30 01:57
Diablo-D3jono: what have you contributed of value that isnt ubuntu related?Apr 30 01:57
soreausebsebseb: Nah, they don't to hear my rants, I'm certain ;)Apr 30 01:57
sebsebsebsoreau: you'ld be suprised, I think they would :)Apr 30 01:58
soreausebsebseb: I sti;; haven't had a chance to look wear to download any episodesApr 30 01:58
soreaustill*Apr 30 01:58
soreauwhere*Apr 30 01:58
soreauughApr 30 01:58
sebsebseb_Goblin schestowitz ^Apr 30 01:59
jonoDiablo-D3, I used to be an official rep for KDE in the UK, I wrote much of Jokosher, I wrote Acire, Python Snippets and PyJunior, I wrote Lernid, started LugRadio and ran it for four years with over 2million downloads, I wrote a Creative Commons book about how to grow and manage communities (focused on Free Software communities), I founded the Wolves Linux User Group, the Infopoint project, and I moved over 200 business to Free Software in the West MidApr 30 01:59
jonolandsApr 30 01:59
jonothat is my work outside of Ubuntu, and my work there is focused on helping thousands of people to contribute to bringing Free Software to the massesApr 30 01:59
sebsebsebsoreau: a new one is going to be up soon, might be alreadyApr 30 02:00
Diablo-D3jono: yet, you promote Ubuntu? Good job undoing all your work.Apr 30 02:00
jonoDiablo-D3, I believe Ubuntu is a good thing for people and for Free SoftwareApr 30 02:00
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: and jono also started that openrespect website outside Ubuntu/CanonicalApr 30 02:00
Diablo-D3Promoting swpats is good?Apr 30 02:00
soreausebsebseb: link me?Apr 30 02:00
jonoI am not expecting you to agree, but much as I respect your contributions even though I think the BitCoin thing is kind of pointless, please respect my contributions even though you think it is kind of pointless :-)Apr 30 02:00
jonoDiablo-D3, no, I think software patents are terribleApr 30 02:01
jonoand so does CanonicalApr 30 02:01
Diablo-D3jono: when why is mono not in the non-free repo?Apr 30 02:01
sebsebsebsoreau: I could provide a more direct link to stuff, but uhmm  the new one will be announched there very soon, if it's not been alreadyApr 30 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Video Pilot: Feedback Welcome @openbytes and myself in video, at lastApr 30 02:01
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sebsebsebsoreau: well there we go then, just announced ^ Apr 30 02:01
jonoDiablo-D3, so are you suggesting I support swpats because I don't have a gripe with Mono?Apr 30 02:01
sebsebsebsoreau: altough oh that's the videoApr 30 02:01
Diablo-D3jono: basically, yes.Apr 30 02:01
jonoif we had to remove anything with software patents, we would have no software leftApr 30 02:02
Diablo-D3I've repeatedly turned down invites to become an ubuntu motu because of itApr 30 02:02
jonoIBM have a patent for "numbers and letters on screen at the same time"Apr 30 02:02
soreausebsebseb: Can you post a link to the video though?Apr 30 02:02
jonoDiablo-D3, and that is fine, you are your own person with your own ethical codeApr 30 02:02
jonowhich is awesomeApr 30 02:02
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: uh you have had invites to become a  Ubuntu Community Member?Apr 30 02:02
jonobut just respect that some others think differentlyApr 30 02:02
Diablo-D3jono: swpats in general isnt the issue that Im speaking aboutApr 30 02:02
jonoDiablo-D3, I think the issue is that you hate MSApr 30 02:02
sebsebsebsoreau: the video is new, a pillot,  loads of audio cast epsiodes exist so far like 41 or somethingApr 30 02:03
Diablo-D3jono: its that microsoft has basically threatened to sue anyone who uses, develops on, or develops with mono.Apr 30 02:03
soreausebsebseb: Yes but the link..Apr 30 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Video Pilot: Feedback Welcome @openbytes and myself in video #swpats #nokia #uk #broadband #wp7 #androidApr 30 02:03
jonoDiablo-D3, when did they"Apr 30 02:03
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sebsebsebsoreau: well the notice that just came in is for the video, as for the audio cast, yeah I can get a linkApr 30 02:03
jonoI have never seen MS explicitly they will sue people for using MonoApr 30 02:03
soreausebsebseb: I want the video link..Apr 30 02:03
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Diablo-D3jono: they refuse to sign a patent grant to people who work outside of novellApr 30 02:04
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jonoDiablo-D3, MS are not the only company guilty of thatApr 30 02:04
jonoI agree swpats suckApr 30 02:04
jonoand I strongly disagree with themApr 30 02:04
jonobut they affect *everything*Apr 30 02:04
jonowhich is why swpats are bad, but Mono is just one example of an affected productApr 30 02:04
Diablo-D3oracle is guilty of it tooApr 30 02:04
jonoagreedApr 30 02:04
jonoDiablo-D3, dude, I am not trying to change your mindApr 30 02:05
Diablo-D3after the shit they did after they bought sun, its unforgivableApr 30 02:05
DaemonFCjono, So how do you explain Ubuntu using Mono to people who know better than to want Microsoft software in their Linux distribution (not trying to be an asshole, just stating the obvious here)Apr 30 02:05
jonoI would just prefer if you were a bit more respectful to folks who also contribute to FLOSS but in different waysApr 30 02:05
Diablo-D3jono: notice Im not attacking ubuntu on all the internal political bullshitApr 30 02:05
Diablo-D3which, arguably, is worse than debian'sApr 30 02:05
sebsebsebsoreau: 30 02:05
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*Diablo-D3 has been using debian for over a decade, and is quite aware of what goes on with thatApr 30 02:05
jonoDaemonFC, it is a good question, as I mentioned, the Technical Board have performed an assessment of the risk, and I trust their judgementApr 30 02:05
Diablo-D3but shipping mono on the install cd? holy crap, manApr 30 02:06
jononow, it could be wise for the TB to revisit the discussion and identify if the risk is any worseApr 30 02:06
jonoDiablo-D3, most of our users don't care what Mono isApr 30 02:06
DaemonFCjono, Aside from the patents, don't you feel having Mono is a security risk? It supports the same .NET languages that people use to make Windows malware withApr 30 02:06
jonoso if there is no risk to our users (as per the TB assessment), and some apps offer a better experience (e.g. Banshee), it makes senseApr 30 02:07
jonoDaemonFC, I don't think it is - in the history of Mono there has never been any vulnarabilities exposes to the system - the Python interpreter could face similar issuesApr 30 02:07
jonoI think part of that is that Mono is pretty well sandboxesApr 30 02:07
jonosandboxedApr 30 02:07
jonoalso I have confidence that our dev process would weed out such security risksApr 30 02:07
Diablo-D3jono: and a lot of people think banshee has harmed the user experienceApr 30 02:07
jonoas would any distro dev processApr 30 02:07
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jonoDiablo-D3, how so?Apr 30 02:07
sebsebseb 30 02:07
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DaemonFCWell, .NET on Windows has been used as an easy way to write malware for Windows, but Mono could make it easy to port Windows malware to LinuxApr 30 02:07
DaemonFCat least I think soApr 30 02:08
jonoDaemonFC, potentially yes, but the Mono sandboxing is way better than .NET on Win - this is also why we have very few viruses on LinuxApr 30 02:08
jonobecause Linux is awesomeApr 30 02:08
Diablo-D3jono: not quite sure, but everything Ive heard about banshee has been badApr 30 02:08
Diablo-D3it crashes, its slow, its bloatedApr 30 02:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh why aren't all the shows listed in the archeive? 30 02:08
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Diablo-D3I mean, I'd understand if one person bitched, but a LOT of people bitch about itApr 30 02:09
jonoDiablo-D3, I have seen a generally better experience from users - it was crashy in the late alphas for natty, I agreeApr 30 02:09
jonobut they have been largely fixedApr 30 02:09
sebsebsebsoreau: and indeed since how they are currently doing things, it can be a bit hard to get onto the older episodes, and even the latest at times in a wayApr 30 02:09
jonoI use Banshee every day and it is generally very reliableApr 30 02:09
sebsebsebsoreau: ,but they are going to start a proper site for Techbytes soon it seems :)Apr 30 02:09
jonoanyway, sorry chaps, have to runApr 30 02:09
jonoto wrap a blog post off and then go and drink some wine and bring in the weekend :-)Apr 30 02:09
_Goblintake care mate....Apr 30 02:09
sebsebsebjono: yeah you probably got better stuff to do really, than have a debate about things with Diablo-D3 :DApr 30 02:09
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jono_Goblin, and you buddy, check with schestowitz to see if Tues at 7pm works and let me knowApr 30 02:09
jonohave a great weekend everyone!Apr 30 02:10
Diablo-D3seeya jonoApr 30 02:10
DaemonFCjono, Mono is better than .NET because it uses things like Cairo and the GDI+ *pukes* wrapper is just to bridge that API to the much superior Cairo, there's other examples, like how it uses llvm and llvmpipe to script and optimize shader code Apr 30 02:10
sebsebsebok bye for now then jonoApr 30 02:10
DaemonFCso you may have a point on technical superiority Apr 30 02:10
jonobye Diablo-D3, DaemonFC, sebsebseb!Apr 30 02:10
DaemonFCbye :)Apr 30 02:10
schestowitzHeh. _Goblin 30 02:13
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schestowitzjono: thanksApr 30 02:13
_Goblinschestowitz: lol.Apr 30 02:14
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_Goblinschestowitz: I don't remember her on our show!Apr 30 02:14
schestowitzI didn't even know they had other shows with the same nameApr 30 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Had hoped to get out my article on how unlawful file-sharing can evolve and adapt quicker than it can be tackled....Will have to wait now..Apr 30 02:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Diablo-D3 DaemonFC hmm @ this one 30 02:14
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schestowitzIt has always been tricky...Apr 30 02:15
schestowitzNow showing up at this rsolutionApr 30 02:15
schestowitzWill need to play with itApr 30 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Hopefully I will have time tomorrow....Apr 30 02:16
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Diablo-D3 DaemonFC Good read: 30 02:17
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Diablo-D3sebsebseb: dont care.Apr 30 02:17
Diablo-D3debian still deosnt have gnome 3.Apr 30 02:17
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: I think it may have in experimentalApr 30 02:17
Diablo-D3half of it.Apr 30 02:18
sebsebsebhalf of it?Apr 30 02:18
Diablo-D3half of it.Apr 30 02:18
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_Goblinlol....Apr 30 02:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: @ what?Apr 30 02:19
_Goblinsorry....wrong channelApr 30 02:19
sebsebseblol it's _GoblinApr 30 02:19
sebsebseboh wait that's not funnyApr 30 02:19
sebsebseb!Apr 30 02:19
_Goblinbut I was laughing at 8 views of the vid when its only been up about 1 minute.Apr 30 02:19
sebsebseboh?Apr 30 02:19
_Goblinnope...make that 10 now.Apr 30 02:20
_Goblinthe video is not working either....its audio only.Apr 30 02:20
sebsebseb_Goblin: well when Jono and Stallman, and that Mageia founder, come on, Techbytes should start getting much more popular I thinkApr 30 02:20
sebsebsebuhmm I saw a picture for the video on the pageApr 30 02:20
sebsebseb,but I stopped itApr 30 02:20
_GoblinRight.....Im going to stop looking now.....its at 14.....Apr 30 02:21
sebsebseb14?Apr 30 02:21
sebsebseboh the views?Apr 30 02:21
sebsebseb_Goblin: how's this going to work anyway, going to have a sepeate video cast sometimes,  with the audio cast?Apr 30 02:21
sebsebsebI mean guests like me, would only be on in the audio, for exampleApr 30 02:22
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sebsebsebsoreau: Did you get the links?Apr 30 02:23
schestowitz_Goblin: got some comments already 30 02:33
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schestowitz_Goblin: "@Openbytes Yes, I need to work on debugging it. Something about YouTube and Ogg (since last year)."Apr 30 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Received an email about the #PSN hack from sony for my Dutch account two days ago. For American and Japanese today???Apr 30 02:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Right about to watch the video, not that long anywayApr 30 02:45
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sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Virtual machine idea in Twitter's comment that's an interesting ideaApr 30 02:48
schestowitzyeahApr 30 02:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Why we can't trust politicians when they tell us the economy is doing fine. 22%? Just 2 points below the Depression? 30 02:54
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sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin I am in it at the end, well in the IRC nick list :DApr 30 02:59
schestowitz_Goblin: new episode always there nowApr 30 03:00
schestowitzjust uploading last fileApr 30 03:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin However for these videos, if going to have the IRC channel, surely it should be #techbytes really?Apr 30 03:01
sebsebseband maybe you can how it streaming live some how even?  and then yeah people  can say stuff on IRCApr 30 03:01
sebsebseband then also have it being recorded of courseApr 30 03:01
sebsebsebyeah having it streaming live would be something.  the audio cast, video cast, both whateverApr 30 03:02
sebsebseb_Goblin: looked like you were on Ubuntu with a dark theme at first to me, but nope it's Sabayon :)Apr 30 03:03
schestowitzthe small mp3 compressed a 120 min show with music into just megsApr 30 03:07
schestowitz9 megsApr 30 03:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: I  found out that Snake can be played on Youtube earlier by the wayApr 30 03:08
_Goblinright...I'm bushed...falling asleep here.....Apr 30 03:08
_GoblinI will do the show notes as soon as I get up....Apr 30 03:08
sebsebsebyeah it's late for _GoblinApr 30 03:08
schestowitzit'll take  longer than I expectedApr 30 03:08
_GoblinIve got quite a large article to publish tomorrow too but I will make sure the shownotes get done first.Apr 30 03:08
_Goblingn allApr 30 03:08
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schestowitzFor some reason encoding is slow, I think cause my swap+ram are knackeredApr 30 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right that me done...Before anything else is published tomorrow, I will do the show notes first.Apr 30 03:09
*DaemonFC sells schestowitz to AttachMate Apr 30 03:19
DaemonFCthey plan to operate him as several divisions Apr 30 03:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: Interesting so far is every time people at AttachMate are questioned about mono they avoid the question.Apr 30 03:22
schestowitzAttachMonoApr 30 03:25
oiaohmschestowitz: My issue is they have talked about opensuse Apr 30 03:26
oiaohmWe are going to have to wait and see.Apr 30 03:26
oiaohmthere is still a chance mono might disappear.Apr 30 03:26
schestowitzthey talk about suseApr 30 03:26
schestowitzNot so much about OPENsuseApr 30 03:27
oiaohmschestowitz: they have talked about opensuseApr 30 03:27
oiaohmThat it will be profitable to keep on sharing with opensuse and taking the best for suse end users.Apr 30 03:27
schestowitzEveryone knows NovellApr 30 03:27
schestowitzWTH knows Attachmate?Apr 30 03:28
schestowitzNovell reduced to being absorbed by some no-name company with a loanApr 30 03:28
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*sebsebseb waits for AttacheMate to pay schestowitz a lot of money, so he that he won't write bad about them online anymore!Apr 30 03:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah if these companies give schestowitz enough money, I guess he would stop doing Techrights :DApr 30 03:32
sebsebsebHow about a billion pounds schestowitz is that enough for you? :DApr 30 03:32
oiaohmReally Novell has not been absorbed whole.Apr 30 03:32
oiaohmThe patents from Novell now sit under OIN license.Apr 30 03:33
oiaohmThe thing now for MS is that the regulators are now starting to react to patent transfers.Apr 30 03:33
oiaohmThis could undermine MS old troll games.Apr 30 03:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra no you jackass, the request was to tell him the first was not betterApr 30 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How do I comment on a fb page? I want to ask stuff on the PAP West Coast GRC page - #sgelectionApr 30 03:43
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amarsh04good, author of watchdog.c replied to me... rebooting to test his suggestionApr 30 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Now back to trying to write, with a Beagle plastered to my right arm.Apr 30 04:19
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DaemonFC- Shipping Unity2D and Qt as part of the default package-set. But because of this, it may mean there's no longer room for shipping Ubuntu ISOs for CDs. The target may have to become a 1GB USB image or DVD ISO going forward. Apr 30 05:17
DaemonFCtwo wordsApr 30 05:17
DaemonFCfucking retardedApr 30 05:17
DaemonFCB-)Apr 30 05:17
DaemonFCif they didn't MANDATE a compositor for Unity, or if they just wrote the damned thing in QT to begin with, this wouldn't be an issueApr 30 05:17
sebsebsebDaemonFC: when am I going to properly leave the Ubuntu chanenls again, or most of them, hmmApr 30 05:18
sebsebsebDaemonFC: no Unity 2D will be in the repo I think, but Qt on the CD or something, or I don't knowApr 30 05:18
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sebsebsebthey will try  whatever they can really to make 11.10 not a DVD ISO, but they might have toApr 30 05:18
sebsebsebnisshh: have you tired Unity yet?Apr 30 05:19
nisshhsebsebseb, yes, i hate itApr 30 05:19
DaemonFCI think Ubuntu developers are stupid or somethingApr 30 05:19
sebsebsebnisshh: Why?Apr 30 05:19
DaemonFChow the hell do you make a desktop environment called UNITY that has two versions using different toolkits?Apr 30 05:19
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well quite a lot of people aren't happy with Unity, and one of the Ubuntu ops is getting quite annoyed with the  anti Unity stuff it seemsApr 30 05:19
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well Qt for Unity 2D, for older hardware, for the hardware acceleration or whateverApr 30 05:20
nisshhsebsebseb, it feels so clunky and limited + the keyboard shortcuts suck + the launcher takes up too jmuch space + there are graphical glitches + heaps moreApr 30 05:20
nisshhget the idea? :)Apr 30 05:20
sebsebsebnisshh: yeah indeed, and I know from tryingApr 30 05:20
nisshhheh, yeahApr 30 05:20
nisshhi meanApr 30 05:20
sebsebsebnisshh: to me the 10.10 version seems better, and I mean when I tried it out on a desktop in Ubuntu and LubuntuApr 30 05:20
nisshhits not that i dont like it AT ALLApr 30 05:21
nisshhbut its design is terribleApr 30 05:21
DaemonFCwell, in 6 months guess what will STILL fit on a CD? KDE with compositing, KDE without compositing, in desktop and netbook interfaces! WOW! and they only have had THIS since 3 years ago?Apr 30 05:21
sebsebsebwhy,  one major reason is since the 10.10 version pretty much just sent over Ubuntu and Lubuntu.  or whatever.  I mean with Lubuntu I had the Unity stuff, but also the LXDE bar at the bottom, and suchApr 30 05:21
nisshhyeahApr 30 05:21
sebsebsebit was quite a nice expereince really trying out  the 10.10 version of Unity on a desktop like thisApr 30 05:21
sebsebsebnisshh: indeed the design is terribleApr 30 05:22
sebsebsebnisshh: and it's very much so aimed at newbies as well, recommending apps and suchApr 30 05:22
nisshhyeahApr 30 05:22
sebsebseb,but even  people who are still newbies really, quite a lot of them don't like it reallyApr 30 05:22
sebsebseb,because they used Gnome 2 in Ubuntu and yeahApr 30 05:22
nisshhi dont want that shit getting in the way of what i want to doApr 30 05:22
nisshhhence why i am on normal GNOME on 11.04 atmApr 30 05:23
sebsebsebnisshh: have you tired Gnome Shell? that's the better out of the two :)Apr 30 05:23
DaemonFCnisshh, Unity is the most pointless desktop environment project ever, it exists to be a self-serving pile of shit for Ubuntu to trojan in their fog computing and music storeApr 30 05:23
sebsebsebright, but Gnome 2 is going bye bye for 11.10Apr 30 05:23
nisshhi havent tried GNOME shell for about 2 monthsApr 30 05:23
nisshhDaemonFC, tbh, i think Unity is a good idea, it was just poorly designed from the startApr 30 05:23
DaemonFChow can it be both?Apr 30 05:24
nisshhwhy cant it be both?Apr 30 05:24
DaemonFCyou mean something had to be done to get away from the cesspool that is GNOME, but they made an even bigger cesspool?Apr 30 05:24
nisshhUbuntu is differentiating itself from others'Apr 30 05:24
nisshhbut the design and implementation could have been a lot betterApr 30 05:24
sebsebsebnisshh: indeedApr 30 05:25
DaemonFCI think making all this proprietary API is a mistake that will haunt themApr 30 05:25
oiaohmnisshh: History.Apr 30 05:25
DaemonFChonestlyApr 30 05:25
sebsebsebUnity is just a load of hacks using Compiz on top of Gnome 2 for 11.04 reallyApr 30 05:25
sebsebsebor something like thatApr 30 05:25
nisshhhehApr 30 05:25
oiaohmEach time a distribution has built their own interface they have died due to incompadiblities.Apr 30 05:25
DaemonFCand since we know that indicators have ZERO chance of ever being used elsewhere, because they suck and because of the contributor agreement, they are proprietaryApr 30 05:25
nisshhsebsebseb, another reason i dont like Unity is the huge pain in the arse it is for app devsApr 30 05:25
sebsebsebnisshh: I think for 11.10 though, when it uses Gnome 3 underneath it will be implemented into the distro much betterApr 30 05:25
nisshhmaybe :)Apr 30 05:25
oiaohmUnity is not really usable by Fedora and others.Apr 30 05:26
sebsebsebnisshh: as for the desgin,  well I haven't really liked  most of what the design team have bee ndoing, since their has been one, so uhmm  the 11.10 design of Unity is likely to not be that great reallyApr 30 05:26
nisshhthe fact that all applications on ubuntu need to be patched to use the new menu and launcher is just bullcrapApr 30 05:26
oiaohmDue to the requirement to sign copyright over to owner of Ubuntu.  nisshhApr 30 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Even more reason to ensure that zero of my dollars go to support Microsoft. 30 05:26
sebsebsebnisshh: that's the copyright assignemtn stuff and so on, why other distro's can't just use it right nowApr 30 05:26
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nisshhoiaohm, not what i meant, but yes that as wellApr 30 05:26
oiaohmBasically Unity is a disaster.Apr 30 05:27
sebsebseboh that was oiaohm that said that not nisshh, so oiaohm that's a reply to you above thenApr 30 05:27
oiaohmGnome is also a disaster.Apr 30 05:27
DaemonFCoiaohm, Remember when Corel made their own file manager for KDE that went off and died? Xandros used it for a while. It was pretty terrible. The nice thing about free software/open source is that you can do all the stupid things you want and NOBODY has to use it. KDE is here, thank god, and it works.Apr 30 05:27
nisshhhehApr 30 05:27
oiaohmLot of Gnome developers have the idea they have veto rights over freedesktop.Apr 30 05:27
oiaohmSo they can disreguard attempts at common development.Apr 30 05:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !NL: Fijne Koninginnedag! (Queen's Day). Have coloured my homepage and blog 'oranje' (orange) for today. /me in search of 'Heineken'!Apr 30 05:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: true the beautey of Desktop Linux, don't like a distro, or a desktop envrionment or whatever, loads of alternative choice useualley :)Apr 30 05:28
oiaohmLinux was not designed for destkop usage.Apr 30 05:28
oiaohmIt truly has shown its teeth over the years to all desktop users.Apr 30 05:29
sebsebseboiaohm: well not really to begin with no, but then it started to be :)Apr 30 05:29
oiaohmOnly in the last 12 months has lot of key work for desktop usage got under way.   sebsebsebApr 30 05:29
DaemonFCKDE is a lot harder to break up and pervert because the applications are part of the desktop system to begin withApr 30 05:29
sebsebseboiaohm: and if  we are going to be more exact, Linux wasn't really designed for anything, it was just designed to be a Unix like alternative kernel, that  was opensourceApr 30 05:29
DaemonFCand there is less pugh to, because the applications don't SUCKApr 30 05:30
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 05:30
DaemonFC*pushApr 30 05:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: the desktop envrionment itself, for long term Gnome 2 users such as myself,  is not easy to customise for quite a few things, I findApr 30 05:30
oiaohmsebsebseb: Linux in the 19xx was servers.   In the 200x the super computer sides got completed.Apr 30 05:30
sebsebsebluckily  quite a lot of distro's set up KDE 4 good by default now anyway so :DApr 30 05:30
oiaohmKDE still has a long way to go.Apr 30 05:31
oiaohmStill too much seperation between background and frontend.Apr 30 05:31
oiaohmHopefully systemd will reduce that.Apr 30 05:31
oiaohmsebsebseb: start or stop a service just using what KDE provides.Apr 30 05:32
DaemonFCYes, I used GNOME before and during the "Let's remove all the options because our users are in a persistent vegetative state and we CAN'T confuse them with features". I can't stomach GNOME 3. Unity sucks less, but that's only because GNOME must be trying harder to suck.Apr 30 05:32
oiaohmsebsebseb: evil fact is you cannot.Apr 30 05:32
oiaohmRecent kde incoming features includes better intergration with grub2Apr 30 05:33
oiaohmThis is the right path.Apr 30 05:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: nisshh  oiaohm Anyway if I start helping a lot again in  that big Ubuntu channel, and in pm here and there with people even from it,  when I am getting more invovled with other distro's really, and have more construtive things I could be doing on the computer such as driving thorey, well then I think I need my  brain examined or somethingApr 30 05:34
DaemonFCGRUB 2 is less scary (the code) and scarier (the configuration) than GRUB Legacy wasApr 30 05:34
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah the code is better sure, but the user features, nastyApr 30 05:35
oiaohmEarly Grub 1.x was scary.Apr 30 05:35
oiaohmI still remember using lilo instead.Apr 30 05:35
oiaohmBecause lilo the options would get passed to the kernel as expected.Apr 30 05:35
oiaohmWhere grub 1.x it was pot lucky.Apr 30 05:35
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oiaohmReally grub 3 might be the golden one.Apr 30 05:36
DaemonFCGRUB 1 was always scary because it made stupid assumptions when it was going to initialize the filesystem which almost NEVER worked right with XFS and even managed to corrupt Ext2/3 sometimes. How Fedora is even CONSIDERING using it with BtrFS is unfathomable!!!!!Apr 30 05:36
DaemonFCGRUB Legacy is dumb, it only (usually works right) with a few file systems, the Ext4 support is an ugly hack, so is Logical Volume Management btw, and don't let it near XFS. :)Apr 30 05:38
oiaohmExt2 boot zone was the safe way with Grub legacyApr 30 05:39
DaemonFCoh well, it's typical FSF mentality. Who cares if it actually works, it's FREE!!!!!! GNU GNU!!!!Apr 30 05:40
oiaohmGrub 2 is a major improvement other than needing a better front end.Apr 30 05:40
oiaohmFSF mentality is more legal.Apr 30 05:40
DaemonFCsoftware designed by lawyers, greatApr 30 05:40
DaemonFCbut I can see why some free software sucks, if it's written with the United States legal system in mindApr 30 05:41
oiaohmFSF major job is to keep care of the legal.Apr 30 05:41
DaemonFCit's why Ubuntu has no problem shipping patented free software that worksApr 30 05:42
oiaohmNot to be the developers.Apr 30 05:42
DaemonFCwhile Fedora will never work right without some doingApr 30 05:42
oiaohmReally webm with open patent pool and so on is what open source should have done long ago.Apr 30 05:43
oiaohmBasically change the play ground to suit us.Apr 30 05:43
DaemonFCFor the FSF, not having OpenGL was a badge of honor because SGI fucked their old license up a littleApr 30 05:43
DaemonFCthese people are crazyApr 30 05:43
DaemonFCwell, I don't know if WebM violates a patent somewhere. Given how AWFUL the US patent office is, someone almost patented hot dogs filled with cheese a few years agoApr 30 05:44
DaemonFCanything is possibleApr 30 05:44
oiaohmProblem here is also USA law.Apr 30 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] impossible for me to change the colors on Twitter. as soon as I change the background color I am unable to save the changes?!?? #failApr 30 05:44
oiaohmIf you break a patent knownly its tripple damages.  DaemonFCApr 30 05:45
DaemonFCshoot, shovel, and shut upApr 30 05:45
DaemonFCnow for computer softwareApr 30 05:45
oiaohmThere is a catch of course.Apr 30 05:45
oiaohmThis is why patent pools work.Apr 30 05:45
oiaohmIf you are attacking something with a patent and it has a pool you are expected by law that you have checked that you are not in voliation of the pool.Apr 30 05:46
oiaohmOpen source has been a little slow on the uptake of that.  DaemonFCApr 30 05:46
oiaohmResult is patents could possiblely work better for open source than closed source.Apr 30 05:47
DaemonFCI don't think SGI is ever going to sue anyone over Mesa and float textures. But it's enough for the FSF to start calling any distro that carries it nonfree I guess.Apr 30 05:47
oiaohmSGI has been really hard to get answer from.Apr 30 05:47
oiaohmOver that very topic.Apr 30 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] seems to work from another browser? (also had to disable https-everywhere)Apr 30 05:48
oiaohmIt does not appear that ATI or Nvidia have licenses to be using it either.  DaemonFCApr 30 05:48
oiaohmATI #!@#!$ !#$!@# cause goofApr 30 05:48
oiaohmIt was ATI that introduced float point textures to opengl.  DaemonFCApr 30 05:49
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oiaohmYes the is a legal stuff up of scary size.  DaemonFCApr 30 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] yeah, finally succeeded... time for a beer ;-)Apr 30 05:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: basically error like it should not happen again.  Most patent errors in opengl standard traced back to ATI.Apr 30 05:50
oiaohmDaemonFC: FSF and OIN are both trying to get the matter addressed over the floating point textures why its in the mesa code line now.  But due to the complexity of the mess its going to take quite a while in legal departments to sort out what should happen.Apr 30 05:55
oiaohmDaemonFC: Ie its not just sorting out the open source side.  It the closed source side as well in trouble.Apr 30 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Oh faaahhhhhh... cloning a git repository from github at 3 KiB/s ? :-(Apr 30 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] now at 1KiB/s ?!?!?????Apr 30 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Long Live the Queen, Long Live re-routing the Internet!Apr 30 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] started upgrading my home office computer to Ubuntu #natty_narwhal, so far transition is smooth. Will report eventually.Apr 30 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @jcemelanda: for me the best choice is to try #kde is #Fedora KDEApr 30 07:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] From January but still recommended to read: lwn "#unhosted web applications: a new approach to freeing #SaaS" 30 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Haha, #ryanair fees are so bogus. Now I paid a second time to add baggage to our ticket, and this time they didn't add the "#MasterCard fee"Apr 30 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is it just me - or is the releae of new Ubuntu not such a big news thingy as it used to be?Apr 30 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Q- Why do we have Internet ? A- So that people can watch zeitgeist movie :)Apr 30 08:03
DaemonFCPhoronix wants to know what happened to Cedega Apr 30 08:05
DaemonFCCrossover Games happenedApr 30 08:05
DaemonFCduhApr 30 08:06
DaemonFC:)Apr 30 08:06
DaemonFCCedega never worked wellApr 30 08:06
DaemonFCit was all about lying to trick people into buying subscriptionsApr 30 08:07
DaemonFCthen it's "Oh, that game we said we supported, yeah, we meant if you turn all the effects off, run it at low resolution and install this texture pack that removes all the effects, oh also antialiasing isn't happening and anisotropic filtering either"Apr 30 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] from the ministry of silly lawsuits a generated email confirming cancellation of alerts is apparently "unsolicited"Apr 30 08:08
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DaemonFCPR release: We run Oblivion, hooray!Apr 30 08:08
DaemonFCI don't see this Gametree vaporware happeningApr 30 08:09
DaemonFCand their Mac software can't be much better than Cedega wasApr 30 08:09
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DaemonFCouchApr 30 08:12
DaemonFCthe future is Fusion(-induced seizures)Apr 30 08:13
DaemonFCvdrift is an awful kind demo of its gaming performance Apr 30 08:14
DaemonFCthat's one of the few titles that runs better with the free radeon driver than FGLRXApr 30 08:14
DaemonFChis benchmarks are meaningless anywayApr 30 08:15
DaemonFChe should be using colortiling on, swapbuffers off and vblank_mode=0 as an environment variable Apr 30 08:15
DaemonFCeven with all that I can't get the free driver to tear anywhere near as bad as FGLRXApr 30 08:16
DaemonFCbut the framerate improves a lotApr 30 08:16
DaemonFC*swapbufferswait offApr 30 08:16
oiaohmvdrift is a prity good tool to beat the crap out of a video card driver.Apr 30 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz !TechBytes Episode 42: Bandwidth, Android and Patents, Games, and Computer Nostalgia ...Apr 30 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] If there are any Tanjong Pagar GRC residents who feel slighted by not being able to vote, please contact me directly #sgelectionApr 30 08:31
DaemonFCoiaohm, What's up with the free drivers dying at high resolutions?Apr 30 08:40
DaemonFCseems like you can throw all kinds of effects and everything at them as long as you don't go above 1280 x 760 Apr 30 08:41
DaemonFCafter that they come down hardApr 30 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A more balanced description of the howabouts in RCL v GOOG case 30 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the new C64 runs #Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, it's listed at the bottom of the main page !tbApr 30 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why is Ubuntu still recommending to use the 32bit version? Esp when using virt, 64bit is default.Apr 30 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pritam Singh is very Obama-esque! Great rally speech and audience engagement. Love it! #sgelectionApr 30 08:51
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barniegmorningApr 30 08:52
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barniegagreeing with mueller i.e repeating some fud ....I agree with the FOSS  Patents blog on this one — Barnes & Noble’s answer to  Microsoft’s infringement suit is quite… lame. Is that the best they  could do? Really?Apr 30 08:54
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barniegI thought barnes & noble's response was pretty damningApr 30 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !TechBytes Episode 42: Bandwidth, Android and Patents, Games, and Computer Nostalgia #gnu #linuxApr 30 08:58
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oiaohmbarnieg: Really Barnes & Noble answer is a worring answer in patent world.Apr 30 09:01
oiaohmbarnieg: Its really bring it on.  And we are not going to show our cards yet because we believe what you have is nothing more than bluff.Apr 30 09:02
oiaohmOf course mueller want to play that is a weak response.Apr 30 09:02
barniegoiaohm: I'm not sure its about someone appearing to stand up to Microsoft after all these yearsApr 30 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: How To Simplify Your Marriage 30 09:03
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oiaohmbarnieg: Note they have been informed remember knowing breaking a patent is tripple damages in the USA.Apr 30 09:03
oiaohmbarnieg: So its quite a pair of nuts Barnes & Noble has if they have nothing to counter.Apr 30 09:04
barniegoiahm: I know in my own attempts to earn a living promoting foss that I faced fud and other stuff which I am no longer prepared to acceptApr 30 09:04
oiaohmbarnieg: More and more fud pushes don't have topicsApr 30 09:05
barnieg oiaohm: It leads into glyn moodys observations 30 09:05
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oiaohmOpen source already won with Novell patents.  barniegApr 30 09:05
oiaohmHaving the regulators step in.Apr 30 09:05
oiaohmQuestion is can this be used to stop more patents from being sold to trolls.Apr 30 09:06
barniegunfortunately with regulators its usually to little to lateApr 30 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: !GNOME Shell Experiments (with Zeitgeist) 30 09:06
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barniegwe need to have software patents abolished that has to be the end goalApr 30 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Charles Profitt: !Unity Compiz Tweaks 30 09:11
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barniegI keep encountering fud & misinformation which is hard to combat because of the resources behind the lies this is a good definition zombie  lie  n.  A false statement that keeps getting repeated no matter how often it has  been refuted.Apr 30 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Decided against buying a thinkpad as I refuse to buy a copy of windows 7 I am never going to use. !fs !LinuxApr 30 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #simulationargument meets #smbc 30 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The PAP patriach is clearly out of sync - #sgelectionApr 30 09:33
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_Goblinschestowitz: as promised, here are the show notes: 30 09:34
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schestowitzta mateApr 30 09:36
schestowitzvideo shows are super-fast to make now BTWApr 30 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Techbytes Episode 42 out!: - We also delve into the realms of video casting..come point and laugh!Apr 30 09:36
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schestowitzAnd I found ways of fixing some problems we had in the pilotApr 30 09:36
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TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Saturday, 30-Apr-11 02:04:42 UTC - @thistleweb its been a long time coming...finally the video issues got sorted..after about another 1hour or so of work.Apr 30 09:42
schestowitzNow it just requires desktop/screen sharing with gtk-recordmydesktopApr 30 09:42
schestowitzNo encoding needed, uploads are smallApr 30 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes show notes have just been published youtube test @ 30 09:43
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schestowitzGot t hurry to the gym now to meet a friendApr 30 09:43
schestowitzbb around 13:00Apr 30 09:44
Diablo-D3ye godsApr 30 09:45
Diablo-D3schestowitz has turned into one of those "GET OUT OF MY WAY, I HAVE TO BE AT THE GYM IN 5 MINUTES" kind of peopleApr 30 09:46
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oiaohmDiablo-D3: could be worse it could be pub instead of gymApr 30 09:48
Diablo-D3no, then I'd have respect for himApr 30 09:48
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oiaohmDiablo-D3: Look at the time.Apr 30 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 116 million downloads on 2011-04-30 08:47 UTCApr 30 09:49
Diablo-D3its almost 5am.Apr 30 09:50
oiaohmI was meaning schestowitz time.Apr 30 09:50
_Goblinschestowitz: enjoy the gym....cant say I'm envious...much as I would love to work out and have my body ache to tell me to stop, Ive got other things to do this morning......Apr 30 09:52
_GoblinMinecraft springs to mind as well as my latest article on "piracy"Apr 30 09:53
Diablo-D3_Goblin: seeApr 30 10:00
Diablo-D3I lead a better lifeApr 30 10:00
Diablo-D3I'd rather make love to a beautiful women and make her body ache and have her beg me to stop, and by "to stop" I mean "dont stop"Apr 30 10:00
_Goblina little too much information and a vision I'd rather not conjure up of you this early in the morning.....Apr 30 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Buff (headgear) 30 10:01
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Diablo-D3Im in ur intertubes, ruining them with my time spent with female relatives of your familyApr 30 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] 3/10 of my recent articles relate to !Microsoft. My lessening interest in Microsoft or an indictment of its declining relevance?Apr 30 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Whilst writing this latest article one has to wonder -is Usenet a "secret" anymore with the mainstream user? - My evidence suggests its not.Apr 30 10:06
_GoblinDiablo-D3: really? Which ones?Apr 30 10:06
Diablo-D3all of them.Apr 30 10:07
_Goblinbest of luck with that then....Apr 30 10:07
_GoblinI'd heard of some fetishes in my time, but didn't realised one handed surfing could incorporate fantasies about the female members of an IRC users family...... Maybe theres a Usenet group to accomodate that?Apr 30 10:08
Diablo-D3probably asrApr 30 10:09
_GoblinJust like the first rule of Usenet is not to talk about Usenet..... theres one I'm sure that says "The men successful with women, don't talk about being sucessful with women"Apr 30 10:09
Diablo-D3_Goblin: wellApr 30 10:10
Diablo-D3trolling is trollingApr 30 10:10
_Goblinyoure not a troll.Apr 30 10:10
Diablo-D3yes I am :<Apr 30 10:10
_Goblinnah....Apr 30 10:10
*Diablo-D3 holds up doctorate in bsApr 30 10:10
_Goblintheres a difference between your "fishing" and a real troll....Apr 30 10:11
Diablo-D3no one takes the bait :<Apr 30 10:12
_Goblinits the way you deliver it.....Apr 30 10:12
_Goblindoesn't quite work.....Apr 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] DSL problem fixed, I hope. 2 hours w/out resyncs and loss of connection makes me hope I solved the problem.Apr 30 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: MeeGo Conference KeyNote and Schedule Published – YeeHaa #MeeGo #MeeGoConf #LinuxFoundation #IntelApr 30 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @drunkdebugger: #android 2.3.4 on #nokia #n900 30 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nokia’s future OS Opinons have #MeeGo written all over them #Maemo #Nokia #MicroSoft #NokSft #LinuxApr 30 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: E-Navigator - E-code database of food ingredients for the N900: 30 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Brain Train USA for the N900 - learn US states and flags while having fun: #N900 #MaemoApr 30 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Mr. Shopper - shopping manager for the Nokia N900: #N900 #MaemoApr 30 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: LG to show MeeGo Smartphones/Tablets next month. Nokia MeeGo...that's coming; used in Nokia offices. 30 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Tmrw I will visit the #VCFE in Munich. Maybe I can buy some cool vintage gadgets! 30 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] MM Lee Kuan Yew is stuck in the 20th C & relives his fights & thinks the rest of Singapore cares. He & his party has lost it! #sgelectionApr 30 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !GNOME 3 packages begin trickling into Ubuntu 11.10 30 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Indicator-Sensors Displays CPU / Motherboard Temperature On The Panel Using An AppIndicator !uApr 30 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @teseu ♺ @ikrshnan: With !Windows I can be an artist. [#fail] !gnu !linux !gnulinuxApr 30 11:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hundreds of US cables on Canadian aboriginals released in partnership with APTN 30 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Money No Enough 3 - #sgelectionApr 30 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ANGRY BEAVERS. THAT IS ALL. YES.Apr 30 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME 3 packages begin trickling into Ubuntu 11.10 30 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Before you attend a rally, put on a smile from listening/watching this song by Dick Lee - #sgelectionApr 30 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME3 packages begin trickling into Ubuntu 11.10 .::. Size~: 60.01 KBApr 30 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Artist's impression of the of Mann Island buildings Liverpool #architectureApr 30 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] #China Releases #HumanRights Lawyer #TengBiao After Detention, 16 Other Lawyers And Activists Still Missing #tpn #anonApr 30 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Designing new t-shirts for !LO.Apr 30 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google !Chrome OS Notebooks Coming with Gmail Subscription - eWeek 30 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome OS Notebooks Coming with Gmail Subscription  - Desktops and Notebooks - News & Reviews  - .::. Size~: 121.12 KBApr 30 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Personally? I hope drug cartels do turn to copyright infringement; it will stop people dying Reality Check Time?Apr 30 11:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexican IP director: ‘Piracy is worse than drug trafficking’ | MyCE – My Consumer Electronics .::. Size~: 39.36 KBApr 30 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] (video) Assange: Is WikiLeaks biased? 30 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Totally revamping the !LO merchandising (finally).Apr 30 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO First new design: 30 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Since I'm closer towards leaving !Gnome in favor of !KDE, I am seeing !Chakra as the Linux destination for me...Apr 30 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Although having said that...who can dispute the l337 version of the latest Slackware..sure its KDE 4.5, but its got a damn "l337" title.. ;)Apr 30 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO Made a female version too, of course: 30 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ouch.... Been hit with a few attempted insulting remarks after I said "Mono taint" on ep 42....Apr 30 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] How about.... "Tarnished by Mono"? would that appease the potty mouthed advocates?Apr 30 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just tried to remove mono and received this message ....Virtual packages like 'mono' can't be removedApr 30 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] `git diff | wc -l` says "666". is it trying to tell me something? in any case, re-jigged the threaded wallpaper rendering. #tokamakApr 30 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching Citizen Kane again. I just do not see how this is the best film ever made. #filmApr 30 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Kaffeekontor Bonn just opened. @th3k4ty brought home some excellent coffee! :D http://www.kaffeekontor-bonn.comApr 30 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh yeah, for alibi it's better to buy an iPhoney and pass it on to an accomplice ;)Apr 30 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jancborchardt @fontana @ruiseabra @davelab6 I collect sites for !free licensed fonts at – any sug ...Apr 30 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] " #Google releases a google docs app for android" 30 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Uploaded a few designs to -- they should pop up on there soon. !LOApr 30 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #networking: "Faster! Faster! Scientists Push 100 Terabit Speeds" 30 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow...... This coffee is amazing! :DApr 30 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Faster! Faster! Scientists Push 100 Terabit Speeds: Broadband News and Analysis « .::. Size~: 77.07 KBApr 30 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #Portugal: Gov rushing out a new private copy law proposal - Ministério da Cultura #SPA it's always bad newsApr 30 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #Portugal: Apresentação da proposta de lei da... - Miguel Caetano - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 12.2 KBApr 30 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fabsh Uploaded a few designs to -- they should pop up on there soon. !LOApr 30 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] 13 tickets left for !OggCamp: http://oggcamp11.eventbrite.comApr 30 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Border Reiver. #MarkKnopflerRulesApr 30 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 117 million downloads on 2011-04-30 12:22 UTCApr 30 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "New evidence that IQ is not set in stone" 30 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] At rp rally at clementi stadium. In excess of 3000 people. Former pap mp dr tan cheng bok in attendance #sgelection 30 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @firefoxmilestones #Firefox4 reached 117 million downloads on 2011-04-30 12:22 UTCApr 30 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @stephenfry: Missed most of Higgins-Williams, but looks like the Welshman rather lost it this morning. Should be a nailbiter this evening.Apr 30 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Superman Renounces U.S. Citizenship in 'Action Comics' #900" 30 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Yesterday's accumulated hail 30 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Royal Wedding May Costs Taxpayers $163 Million!" 30 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Martin and Jos have gone; now we're just 6 (inc Sebas). still, today's progress update meeting was full #tokamakApr 30 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] highlights included a remote widgets browser using KIO and QML, a remote widget info dialog that shows when opening one ... #tokamakApr 30 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Today there's still this much and temperature hasn't been low 30 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Issues with moving captured frame in !TechBytes Video now all sorted. /cc @openbytesApr 30 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] and a new splash screen that uses QML; ksplashx is fast, but very KDE 3. the QML one is still fast enough, but allows for elegance #tokamakApr 30 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] now @ervin and i are going to spend some time in task triage: things still on the kanban window need to go into iceScrum #tokamakApr 30 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox gets faster on Linux how can *anybody* not like Mozilla? :-) 30 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Life in a Linux-less World hard to conceive. No WWW for starters.Apr 30 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Needs To Change! So They Tell Me kernel not good enough? Or just the same old myths?Apr 30 14:00
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Fixes Vulnerabilities in Firefox 4 | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 34.45 KBApr 30 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chrisp: looking at the list of people going to #oggcamp lots I recognise and probably lots more I should recognise! Quite excited alreadyApr 30 14:03
oiaohmschestowitz: firefox getting faster its an effect of lto gcc.   Now lot of people don't have a clue how many applicaitons long term that change is going to effectApr 30 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off for grocery shopping.Apr 30 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "MORE Tornadoes from Global Warming? That’s a Joke, Right?" 30 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] via @JemimaKiss Protest in Brighton today, but more police (and horses, trucks and bikes) than protesters. RidiculousApr 30 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Colombia & WikiLeaks scoops 30 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Another viewing of Citizen Kane and I still do not think it is that great. Once the fuss has died down it will be seen as over rated. #filmApr 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Having just received !Gwibber 3 from Fedora testing repo, I must say it really is much faster, markedly so in fact. Well done @segphaultApr 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] EFF: New documents reveal details of US spyware program 30 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New FBI Documents Provide Details on Government’s Surveillance Spyware | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 32.34 KBApr 30 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux , a slice of heaven for programmers. " Linux is rising while windows is falling."Apr 30 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @schestowitz: Life in a #Linux-less World hard to conceive. No WWW for startersApr 30 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux, a slice of heaven for programmers. .::. Size~: 80.19 KBApr 30 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Così l’Fbi sta portando Wikileaks in Tribunale 30 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @ofabx @kevie Unity looks like an mix of Gnome2 & Gnome3 wrapped in a Crapply interface « Harsh words :)Apr 30 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What If Prince William And Kate Middleton Were Linux Fans a bit of a stretch, but still timelyApr 30 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux notes from DarkDuck: What If Prince William And Kate Middleton Were Linux Fans .::. Size~: 86.95 KBApr 30 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yum | Yum Extender “yumex” | Fedora 14 | #Fedora 15 #redhat #gnu #linuxApr 30 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Här slutade jakten på svenska Ann 30 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #msnokia: "Microsoft admits to more Windows Phone update problems"...poor Nokia... 30 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft admits to more Windows Phone update problems - Telecommunication, software, smartphones, Phones, Mobile operating systems, mobile, Microsoft, consumer electronics, applications - Computerworld .::. Size~: 86.1 KBApr 30 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Who's still being held at Guantanamo? The full list | McClatchy 30 14:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who's still being held at Guantanamo - Sacramento Living - Sacramento Food and Wine, Home, Health | Sacramento Bee .::. Size~: 106.17 KBApr 30 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? Iswaran will still be MP? I don't think so. #sgelection 30 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LG working on #MeeGo #Linux tablets, phones, and more? good news if trueApr 30 15:05
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oiaohmschestowitz: When Nokia pulled back LG steped up.Apr 30 15:12
oiaohmschestowitz: Projects based on good ideas are near impossible to kill.Apr 30 15:12
schestowitzLG pays Microsoft for Linux toughApr 30 15:13
MinceRplus there's a chance that the MeeGo phone LG makes will actually have an idea how much its battery is chargedApr 30 15:13
MinceRand it won't be a total pain to recharge if it manages to discharge itselfApr 30 15:14
*MinceR is annoyed with his N98Apr 30 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Republicanism, the morning after - amazing what a few hours can do... #royalweddingApr 30 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SouthPark takes a poke at #Apple data tracking controversy 30 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Great fun - #Apple wants to reboot my computer to update the font subsystem. FAIL.Apr 30 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : Walking into the Ring again. #Chevenga #weblit #reading #fantasy #sffApr 30 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 466 - A desert of ultimacy | C H E V E N G A • L I V E S • H E R E .::. Size~: 43.83 KBApr 30 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vryka: EC 472 What's this 'making friends' thing? #weblit #webfic #fantasy #Minis #scifi #worthreadingApr 30 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eclipse Court .::. Size~: 152.02 KBApr 30 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why The Copyright Industry Isn’t a Legitimate Stakeholder in #Copyright - what they want you to forgetApr 30 15:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why The Copyright Industry Isn’t a Legitimate Stakeholder in Copyright  | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 26.6 KBApr 30 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Goldman Sachs Created the #Food Crisis - looks important; I wish I had time to study the maths behind it #futuresApr 30 15:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Goldman Sachs Created the Food Crisis - By Frederick Kaufman | Foreign Policy .::. Size~: 119.31 KBApr 30 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Open source on the rise in UK schools' - must have missed this; hope it's true #opensource #educationApr 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft really couldn't fuck up #WP7 more if they tried yet MORE problems with updates. Who'd buy this shit?Apr 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Judging by this list McDonald's would be in the top 50 restaurants of all time. #filmApr 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Why The Copyright Industry Isn’t a Legitimate Stakeholder in #Copyright - what they want you to forgetApr 30 15:40
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: More Windows Phone Update Problems - Slashdot .::. Size~: 89.61 KBApr 30 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 50 Most Influential Movie Directors of the Century .::. Size~: 85.08 KBApr 30 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @_ekac_: "UK cops arrest professor for planning ‘zombie wedding" .. Since when do #jokes = #jail ? #wtfApr 30 15:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK cops arrest professor for planning ‘zombie wedding,’ mock execution during royal ceremony |  The Raw Story .::. Size~: 52.45 KBApr 30 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean The police went to great lengths to stop all legitimate anti monarchy protests. It reminded me a little of China.Apr 30 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @biglesp: Help us win £5k! Manchester Digital Laboratory RT #jointherevolution 30 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @wikileaks Peruvian Congress just passed a bill declaring access to the #Internet a fundamental right: >>no #3strikes?Apr 30 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Gee Arer See - #sgelection (via @mrbrown)Apr 30 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody RT @wikileaks Peruvian Congress just passed a bill declaring access to the #Internet a fundamental right: >> ...Apr 30 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz: for software, or just for printed matter (as is the case in the UK too)?Apr 30 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Peruvian Congress just passed a bill declaring access to the #Internet a fundamental right: 30 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - the mrbrown show: gee ahruh see (music video) .::. Size~: 115.63 KBApr 30 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gitmo staff banned from reading WikiLeaks (page 5). Note also We get to break stuff 30 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The “book” is dead - lots of good points about books, #ebooks, #piracy and #googleApr 30 16:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “book” is dead [dive into mark] .::. Size~: 20.6 KBApr 30 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/4/2011: Systemd and a Lot of Ubuntu Coverage !techrightsApr 30 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 30/4/2011: Systemd and a Lot of Ubuntu Coverage #techrightsApr 30 16:05
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 30/4/2011: Systemd and a Lot of Ubuntu Coverage | Techrights .::. Size~: 152.09 KBApr 30 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: missed that: URL?Apr 30 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 118 million downloads on 2011-04-30 15:17 UTCApr 30 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looks like Ser Luck is reading an essay and the followed by a lame name calling. Zero passion & credibility. #sgelectionApr 30 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - Teo Ser Luck at People's Action Party's first rally .::. Size~: 107.79 KBApr 30 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I keep getting spam purportedly from former #BlackDuck CEO Doug #LevinApr 30 16:33
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Joy of Tech comic... An apology from Sony. .::. Size~: 28.98 KBApr 30 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 Peruvian Congress just passed a bill declaring access to the #Internet a fundamental right: 30 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Willy Tarreau released #linux #longterm #kernel 30 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverseApr 30 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review of #OpenPandora Handheld Gaming Device #Linux based *and* hackable. What more can one want?Apr 30 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: Review of OpenPandora Handheld Gaming Device .::. Size~: 20.27 KBApr 30 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moral Bankruptcy of the #Copyright Industry - "The issue of #piracy is more important than the #drug issue."Apr 30 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] becoming iceScrum ninjas; four of us working on it at once, kanban window draining into the web app :) #tokamakApr 30 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "PAP manifesto has more pictures than words. Just like a children's story book" - Nicole Seah, NSP. Love it! #sgelectionApr 30 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Moral Bankruptcy of the Copyright Industry .::. Size~: 76.15 KBApr 30 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The South Park has a pop at Apple episode #funny 30 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why You Should Think Twice About Opting-In to the #Delicious-AVOS Transfer - raises good point (v @mathewi) #censorshipApr 30 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 50 minute warning. #DrWhoApr 30 17:11
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_Goblinhi allApr 30 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @glynmoody Moral Bankruptcy of the !Copyright Industry - "..issue of #piracy is more important than the #drug issue"Apr 30 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fairvotewrc ♻ @ericwaltongpc Strat voting is still "bad" even if it's for Greens. Ppl need 2 be empowered 2 vote their preference! ! ...Apr 30 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes: 30 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: yes, broadly I agree; analogue books will become specialised items for people who want artefacts...Apr 30 17:18
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schestowitzHi _GoblinApr 30 17:21
schestowitzGood newsApr 30 17:21
schestowitzJust tested desktop sharing w/ someoneApr 30 17:21
schestowitzI had to upgradeApr 30 17:21
schestowitzWanna test it quickly?Apr 30 17:21
_GoblincoolApr 30 17:21
schestowitzwe can slso record a 5-minuterApr 30 17:21
schestowitzif you wantApr 30 17:21
_GoblinIm currently giving Seamonkey latest ver a could be used in a video showApr 30 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie The ship of #copyright is on the rocks. Holes gape in its hull. Its booty is gone. Captain & officers argue a better heading ...Apr 30 17:23
schestowitzsureApr 30 17:24
schestowitzI was thinking todayApr 30 17:24
schestowitzwhen going past town hall..Apr 30 17:24
schestowitzWhat if we used the show routinely to cover and talk about applications?Apr 30 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: thanks; AAMOI, why is it private?Apr 30 17:25
schestowitzLike commenting about them as we go along?\Apr 30 17:25
schestowitzAnd then post these also in youtube for others to seeApr 30 17:25
schestowitzOur news bits do not require as much visual aidesApr 30 17:25
schestowitzI made the comment (comment #6) in the comments on yesterday's video showApr 30 17:25
_Goblinyep good ideaApr 30 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Cdn !Copyright should be made in !Canada !elxn41!fed2011 !wikiLeaks !Cablegate > !C32 Digital Locks made in USAApr 30 17:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian Copyright should be made in Canada «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 59.03 KBApr 30 17:28
schestowitzI have to go around 6, so let's make it quickApr 30 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Monday the polls open. Visit if you need more information on how to vote. #elxn41 #cdnpoliApr 30 17:30
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_Goblinsorry, just going to quit out of this chatzilla session, want to make sure my benchmarking is accurate...Apr 30 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop. #sgelectionApr 30 17:31
schestowitzit says you're offlineApr 30 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean ?Apr 30 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: indeedApr 30 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: blogged: #Cdn #Copyright should be made in #Canada #elxn41#fed2011 #wikiLeaks #Cablegate > #C32Apr 30 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wildcat Unions Springing Up In Chinese Factories, Demanding Higher Wages, Humane Conditions and The Right To Organize 30 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If only I could believe that kind of action could really work in China. I'm the worst kind of cynic. I'm a remorseful cynic :(Apr 30 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean All I find in Identica inbox is writer suggestion; email inbox has book suggestion.Apr 30 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to put #Ubuntu 11.04 as the main netbook distro for a while, see what #Unity is like to live with. So far I like itApr 30 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd LOVE to see the #Elementary modifications to #Nautilus become the norm, instead of having to adjust it post installApr 30 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The #RIAA's lawsuit tally so far is $62.7M in the red. That's some going. Calculated from these figures 30 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kubuntu Returns to Glory with 11.04 #unity could help itApr 30 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wow...Benchmarks show a striking difference in the software I'm currently reviewing..Apr 30 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So many people have tried to explain what FREE means, but Benjamin Humphrey has another go 30 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@openbytes can we review #Seamonkey in video tomorrow morning? !tbApr 30 17:46
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TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz LG are well known for using Linux so sounds plausibleApr 30 17:46
schestowitz"The problem is that they pay #Microsoft for #Linux at #lg :-( #swpats"Apr 30 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Emperor's New Clothes? #sgelectionApr 30 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Polar bear excrement has hit the rotary oscilator @ 0.99 C - energy transfer was interesting :) #anonymous #USCCApr 30 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Last factory making manual typewriters closes | tech.blorge | 30 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean the lawyer book?Apr 30 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] mo6020 Your avi reminds me of the Cathedral and Bazaar bloke, whats his name... Bruce willis.Apr 30 17:56
schestowitz"Apr 30 18:06
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Apr 30 18:06
schestowitz> > Apr 30 18:06
schestowitz> > Thats great. I will send you over a new contract with your new workingApr 30 18:06
schestowitz> > hours.Apr 30 18:06
schestowitzThanks.Apr 30 18:06
schestowitzJust one minor point: at ... per annum (pro-rata), assuming it meansApr 30 18:06
schestowitzwhat I think it means, the salary per hour would actually decreaseApr 30 18:06
schestowitzrather than increase (I think). Maybe I misunderstood though...Apr 30 18:06
schestowitz^^^meApr 30 18:06
schestowitz:-/Apr 30 18:06
schestowitzpart-timing...Apr 30 18:07
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DaemonFCcapitalism's goal is to push wages down and keep cost of doing business low. China works people for the equivalent of 10 cents per hour US, unpaid overtime, and lets them dump toxic waste wherever and release all the CO2 they want.Apr 30 18:08
DaemonFCMexico is kind of like that too.Apr 30 18:09
DaemonFCPopular destinations for jobs coming from countries with worker safety, wage and hour, and environmental protection laws. :)Apr 30 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Tomorrow I will use a different cup #sip_and_clickApr 30 18:10
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DaemonFCIPCs (Imaginary Property Cartels) exploit the popular "dey took our jerbs!" sentiments by saying that downloading proprietary software, movies, music, and so on without paying for it causes job lossApr 30 18:10
DaemonFCjob loss where?Apr 30 18:10
DaemonFCWindows and IE and lots of other stuff is done in India and ChinaApr 30 18:11
DaemonFCI care about their jobs why?Apr 30 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @guido !Free Software in !education, collected news published: (March - April) !fsfe !ofset !fsApr 30 18:11
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DaemonFCand when it comes to patents, the argument is even more ludicrous, because the IPCs didn't even write any of the code they are bitching aboutApr 30 18:11
DaemonFCthey just want paid for itApr 30 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Anony_Ops: #OpIran ::: These targets will be either defaced or DDoS'd on #MayDay! #Anonymous, We are legion.Apr 30 18:18
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schestowitzbblApr 30 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Installing hundreds of updates. About to reboot #Sabayon.Apr 30 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] In view of recent SCOTUS ruling, I'd support legislation making "binding arbitration" clauses a 10 Yrs minimum jailtime felony ...Apr 30 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ... along with "we can change terms at any time without your consent" contract language. Jail corp mgmt when those enter consumer contracts.Apr 30 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Isn't sad that Singapore's an example of Gerrymandering as defined in Wikipedia? #sgelectionApr 30 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Oops. What pissed off the Siamese? She's attacking everything, humans included! Dogs are confused.Apr 30 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Next time on #DrWho yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.Apr 30 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Ok, got it now, thanks :)Apr 30 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Okay, so how do anonymous go about picking their targets?Apr 30 18:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean it's like the People's Front Of Judea #splitters #MontyPythonApr 30 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Do they publish a justification for picking targets?Apr 30 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Some people wondered if is an foreign NGO. It is a Singaporean group that monitors human rights issues #sgelectionApr 30 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Ta.Apr 30 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] and is monitoring the #sgelections and how it fares in terms of human rights etc. please support them.Apr 30 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean The reason for attacking Iran is piss poor. Like the USAF in Afghanistan they are running out of decent targets.Apr 30 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean there's a #BSOD for each version of #Windows....oh BSDApr 30 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @gbraad heh. your typo gave me the idea that a Free version of Firefox should be named Freierfox ;-)Apr 30 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Trust is like an eraser - it gets smaller and smaller after every mistake". True that! #sgelection 30 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Well not true there are loads of good targets but is this going to end up as an attack the bogeymen outfit?Apr 30 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Freedom? Where do you start? Ooo I know another Western bogeyman. Freedom in USA or Britain? absolutely not, illusion.Apr 30 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality I bet the collective cost of all the video recorders and cameras in the crowd was higher than the wedding itselfApr 30 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @tsolar: Se ve puro !trisquel por el momento :) // yay !flisolsantiago!Apr 30 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @martinolivera: Muy interesantes para invitar a #CISL2011 serian los cros de Brasil @marcelobranco y @samadeuApr 30 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @PoliceStateUK: RT @willcommon: Reports of house raids by TSG on activists happening across London #PoliceState #PoliticalOppressionApr 30 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Why The Copyright Industry Isn’t a Legitimate Stakeholder in #Copyright - what they want you to forgetApr 30 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean I may well do.Apr 30 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @lxoliva Thanks very much that is useful info.Apr 30 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Peruvian Congress just passed a bill declaring access to the #Internet a fundamental right: 30 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I think my time on !TechBytes is coming to an endApr 30 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 119 million downloads on 2011-04-30 18:22 UTCApr 30 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mmillions "Most people have trouble just biking across the Longfellow Bridge, @dpic can take off his pants and put them back on whil ...Apr 30 19:26
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DaemonFCtheir sexual organs are internal, that makes them superior to menApr 30 19:27
DaemonFCtheir sexual organs are internal, that means these inferior men are always stopping them from succeedingApr 30 19:27
DaemonFC*wonders which one it is*Apr 30 19:27
DaemonFC-me on Feminists Apr 30 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @technicalpickle: For the first time in 3 years, not excited about the new Ubuntu. Very happy with #Trisquel :) Making freedom easy!Apr 30 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @harishpillay: "Trust is like an eraser - it gets smaller and smaller after every mistake"Apr 30 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Argh! #Delicious, you should never change my kbrd shortcuts without asking. That attitude is a good reason for me to cancel my account.Apr 30 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Canadian WikiLeaks sneak peak 30 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Another great episode of Doctor Who.....Apr 30 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: China linked aid to Taiwan recognition 30 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Putin: Bulgarians risk being cold this winter if they do not help Russia 30 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES:The relentless issues of !WP7 –You really couldn’t make this up !microsoft !mvpbuzz !windowsphone7 !mvpApr 30 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @pehjota #opencores is seeking donations to help build the first !free !linux-friendly system-on-a-chip. Great specs & potential! htt ...Apr 30 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @smaffulli: how online anonimity is being eroded. It's not an article from @rms or @eff ... 30 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Review of #OpenPandora Handheld Gaming Device #Linux based *and* hackable. What more can one want?Apr 30 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This week in WikiLeaks. Roundtable discussion (podcast) 30 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Fedora 15 with GNOME 3 & some cool upgrades! !fedora !linuxApr 30 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They gave Jeremy Clarkson a pistol?Apr 30 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I cant believe it, I am finally getting around to watching the BluRay of Harry Potter that I bought about 2 weeks ago.Apr 30 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's such a relief to have the use of the normal internet today ins tead of the supercongested simalcrum I had to live with yesterdayApr 30 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks Canada: Police Arrested Movie Pirate As “A Personal Favor” To Movie Official 30 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Quebec: US embassy on Walmart's union woes #wlcanApr 30 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 182 dents!Apr 30 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 Wikileaks Canada: Police Arrested Movie Pirate As “A Personal Favor” To Movie Official 30 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn #Reisler at #LFNW hints: the geeks will sometimes have to withhold services as part of a class struggle with those who control ...Apr 30 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Thanks. (whether or not it does any good it's always worth a tilt at the windmill)Apr 30 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Operation Iran ( #OPIRAN ) – Anonymous Next Target may be & ! #anonymousApr 30 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rootbrian The old !ubuntu is lost. 4.04-10.10. #rip Unity replaces and changes it forever /sadfaceApr 30 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Anonymous dumps huge torrent of Chamber of Commerce docs !wlApr 30 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just hit the dist-upgrade button on the Ubuntu box. Servers should be less battered now, let's see what all the fuss is about.Apr 30 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #FDA slams hard working Americans because of religious affiliations 30 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How Goldman Sachs is killing poor people 30 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vickyontowit: #JPMN watched Kings speech. It was well done and the fact they used the original footage is really cool. I say 10 for 10.Apr 30 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean RT @Vickyontowit: #JPMN watched Kings speech. It was well done and the fact they used the original footage is really coo ...Apr 30 21:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Whoever idiot wandered east on the !LO !Miners server will be bullwhipped. I'm serious. I can't shit RAM you motherfucking bitches!!!!!Apr 30 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO !Miners whitelist will now be suspended for a while until I find the wandering bastard and adaminiumise his balls.... X(Apr 30 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @osamak Egyptian political activist Weal #Ghonim's excellent speech at the 2011 TIME 100: ...Apr 30 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @x1101: @fabsh we could always keelhaul themApr 30 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Save the Grand Canyon from destructive uranium mining! Support a 20 year mining ban: 30 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening 2 Weal #Ghonim: "...all these politicians that thought stability is more important than democracy..." !elxn41Apr 30 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Slumdog millionaire is Oliver Twist first half (good). Love interest second half (not good).Apr 30 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh @thistleweb you are both in after school pun detention.Apr 30 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] We CAN change the world. Vote the way YOU want to: "The power of the people is much stronger than the people in power"~Wael Ghonim !elxn41Apr 30 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks confirms conspiracy to torture Australian Habib by US-Egypt-Australia 30 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All I wanna do is (BANG BANG BANG BANG!) And (KKKAAAA CHING!) And take all your moneyApr 30 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @procrastinatron Imitating @reality with maximum obtainable accuracy in 3... 2... 1...Apr 30 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What is the best photosharing service for #identica I don't like #yfrog ?Apr 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @procrastinatron Imitating @reality with maximum obtainable accuracy in 3... 2... 1...Apr 30 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] oh the wonders of spending a couple of hours in the presence of good friends, I almost feel good again :)Apr 30 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm We CAN change the world. Vote the way YOU want to: "The power of the people is much stronger than the people in power ...Apr 30 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !spurs was robbed! looking forward to !barca madrid #champions !footballApr 30 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: WeTab Tablet Software Update 2.2 Released – #MeeGo #WeTab #Linux #IntelApr 30 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: Group SMS: application to send SMS to group of numbers - package talk #N900 #MaemoApr 30 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: New version (working again) of MSN Pecan Protocol Plug-in - package - talk #N900Apr 30 22:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada : !WikiLeaks Cable dictates Canadian !Copyright Law !C-32 !enraged !elxn41 !fed2011 !cpc !lpcApr 30 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Captain America takes on Assange & WikiLeaks the reality: 30 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] James Gleick "When information is cheap, attention becomes expensive"Apr 30 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Switched to BBC news in between adverts to see a Union Jack with QPR on it. Shame they sewed it on the flag upside down. #fail #footballApr 30 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] satipera Yes. !canada has four choices of nationwide parties but has trouble believing change is possible. !elxn41 !ed2011 !ndp !gpcApr 30 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody 'Open source on the rise in UK schools' - must have missed this; hope it's true #opensource #educationApr 30 22:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The release party is over. I feel very tired...Apr 30 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: The world of Bollywood as seen through US eyes 30 22:36
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*schestowitz waves hi to _Goblin & othersApr 30 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] U.S. considers ‘Native Canadian groups’ as possible terror threats: embassy cables #wlcan 30 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] PyPy 1.5 released 30 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] What needs to be done to get Tor to be IPv6-compliant: 30 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Illegal immigrants go to U.S., then aim for Canada 30 22:56
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Why does the suggested guest have a email address showing?  They may get spammedApr 30 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hands down the best voting exhortation so far: !ppoc !elxn41 !fed2011Apr 30 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared Disney's Recycled Animation 30 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple's Chinese workers treated 'inhumanely, like machines' 30 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn #Reisler at #LFNW hints: the geeks will sometimes have to withhold services as part of a class struggle with those who control ...Apr 30 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn #Reisler at #LFNW: USA Constitution was drafted secretly & approved only by a wealthy electorate !Disturbing; does FLOSS make ...Apr 30 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @phdinparenting People ask where @jacklayton will get $ for social programs but don't ask where @pmharper w/get $ for F-35s? !elxn41 !ndpApr 30 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @chelseysm1th "democracy is sexy" signs? Kids today, I tell ya! RT @EJ_Vote Young voters mob Whyte Avenue !elxn41Apr 30 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 120 million downloads on 2011-04-30 22:17 UTCApr 30 23:20
_Goblinschestowitz: Hi! Just got back from watching harry potter on BluRayApr 30 23:22
sebsebseb_Goblin: uh, but that's a nasty propritary format, which I think can't legally be used with Linux!Apr 30 23:22
_Goblinno matter...I watched it on my ps3Apr 30 23:23
*sebsebseb wants to catch up with Techbytes before Tuesday, so can listen to the episode with Jono when it's well the latest stillApr 30 23:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: also look at the link I just gave you and schestowitz on identicaApr 30 23:23
_Goblintell you what....give me a HD alternative to watching Harry Potter "legally" and I'll consider the meantime "nasty proprietary" is all there is.Apr 30 23:24
*amarsh04 has made do with a standalone blu-ray player feeding into the pc's sound card and the computer monitorApr 30 23:24
sebsebseb_Goblin: heh hehApr 30 23:24
sebsebseb_Goblin: anuyway for me HD TV is a bit  of a con really, I don't really notice a difference from standard TVApr 30 23:25
sebsebsebso is Blueray really much better  than HD?Apr 30 23:25
_Goblinsebsebseb: re: the link...shame to see him go if he decides to, but TechBytes was always a case of "on the fly"....when Roy and I founded it before Gordon came, that was the was pretty much "suck it and see"Apr 30 23:25
sebsebseb_Goblin: no it seems, he is annoyed he is finding out news about it later on, but well I suppouse that's his fault if he no longer comes to this channel for exampleApr 30 23:26
amarsh04blu-ray doesn't have the bandwidth limitation of hd-televisionApr 30 23:26
sebsebseb_Goblin: and also if he doesn't idle in the #techbytes channelApr 30 23:26
_GoblinI think neither Roy nor myself have the time to turn it into a well organised FOSS campaign.....we come up with an idea and run with it...whoever is about.....the show has had many experiments and new ideas, some stuck, some didn't....Apr 30 23:26
sebsebsebwell yeah news, and guests simple as thatApr 30 23:27
sebsebsebthere shoudn't really be much to dicuss about it I guessApr 30 23:27
_Goblinthats it....we may even nuke the intro music....Apr 30 23:27
sebsebseb_Goblin: and if he doesn't like a particular guest being on or something,  well that's his problem,  if you two are with it,  he gets out numbered in the vote anywayApr 30 23:27
sebsebsebwell there was that sample new musicApr 30 23:27
sebsebsebTechbytes, TechbytesApr 30 23:27
sebsebsebyeah that was good :)Apr 30 23:27
sebsebsebhow about using that instead of the troll song?Apr 30 23:27
sebsebsebwhich I belive was planned anywayApr 30 23:28
_Goblina good example was when Roy announced that he would be providing wasn't planned, it wasn't discussed, its just implimented....thats the way we work......If its popular we will stick with it, if its not we will nuke it.....(although I still think my death metal was far better)!; ;)Apr 30 23:28
_Goblinand yes, Marti's music was good....Apr 30 23:28
sebsebsebwhat I hard of that Techbytes  music that was specialy made for it, really goodApr 30 23:28
_Goblinagreed...Apr 30 23:28
sebsebsebthe I thought the troll song is a bit lame or something in a way to be honestApr 30 23:29
sebsebsebin fact I really didn't like it at first, then got used to itApr 30 23:29
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sebsebseb_Goblin: well ok the song is alright, but it's time for a change of intro music I think really :) to that other oneApr 30 23:29
_Goblinit seemed like a relevant track at the time...."I fought the troll and the troll lost" since me and roy have had our fair share of attention from Trolls.Apr 30 23:29
sebsebsebwell yeahApr 30 23:30
_Goblinand also because Tom Smith kindly endorsed our use of it.Apr 30 23:30
sebsebsebalso the intro music at the end, well I like having  some other song :)Apr 30 23:30
sebsebsebwhich isn't always the caseApr 30 23:30
_Goblinyeah...its just sometimes difficult to find the time to bring material to the show and choose a track....we often work on a "record in a few minutes" there often is not much time for planning....Thats mainly my fault since I have unpredictable work.Apr 30 23:31
_Goblinand we are not professional dj's too we have many other commitments not just the show.Apr 30 23:32
sebsebseb_Goblin: I do like listening to all of them, so uhmm actsaully Roy being offline for quite a lot has worked out for my advantage, or there would have been much more of them by now to catch up on :DApr 30 23:32
sebsebsebjust started 32Apr 30 23:32
_GoblinRoys been ready to record...its usually me unable to make it..Apr 30 23:33
_Goblinwhen me and roy were on, recording was more often....that was because with 2 hosts there was less deviation from the topics at hand and less chatting pre-showApr 30 23:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: well March only has three episodesApr 30 23:33
sebsebsebthat's what I meantApr 30 23:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: 32 is from 22nd Feb,  yeah I listend to that Nokia episode quite a while ago nowApr 30 23:34
sebsebsebwhich was the one beforeApr 30 23:34
_Goblinis cubezzz about today?Apr 30 23:36
_Goblinping cubezzzApr 30 23:36
sebsebsebno he diedApr 30 23:36
_Goblinah....Apr 30 23:36
_Goblinhis cyber ghost is still hereApr 30 23:36
sebsebsebyeahApr 30 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @CBCCommunity We'd like to hear: What kind of election has Canada Votes 2011 been? !elxn41Apr 30 23:36
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_Goblinif I log off and he reappears can you let him know that I was asking for him and will catch up tomorrow.Apr 30 23:37
sebsebseb_Goblin: asking for him why?Apr 30 23:37
_GoblinIve got a lead for him for his Amiga monitor.Apr 30 23:37
sebsebseboh your going to send that to C anada ?Apr 30 23:37
_GoblinyepApr 30 23:37
_Goblinit won't be muchApr 30 23:37
sebsebseboh  rightApr 30 23:38
sebsebsebthey have a differnet plug thougApr 30 23:38
sebsebsebfor the elctricity?Apr 30 23:38
_Goblinnope its not the power leadApr 30 23:38
sebsebsebanyway I thought I would be listening to Techbytes in Banshee since  what I am runningApr 30 23:39
sebsebseb,but nahApr 30 23:39
sebsebsebopended Totem up insteadApr 30 23:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: more funny in a way, if there is any anti Mono stuff on it, whilst listening with a Mono app :DApr 30 23:39
_Goblinwhich reminds me.....when I was up in the loft I found a bagful of TV modulators for the A500....if anyone here wants one, let me know.Apr 30 23:39
_GoblinowwwApr 30 23:40
_Goblinjust ran the sunspider benchmark on Seamonkey...Apr 30 23:40
_Goblin....Apr 30 23:40
DaemonFCSeamonkey?Apr 30 23:40
DaemonFCYou're serious?Apr 30 23:40
DaemonFCB-)Apr 30 23:40
_GoblinBitops test: 40.7msApr 30 23:40
_Goblinthats awfulApr 30 23:40
DaemonFCoh my god there's something that sucks worse than Firefox!Apr 30 23:41
DaemonFC(Other than MSIE)Apr 30 23:41
_GoblinDaemonFC: yeah Im reviewing the latest seamonkey verApr 30 23:41
MinceRchrome?Apr 30 23:41
DaemonFCdon't pull 2.0Apr 30 23:41
DaemonFCthat is ancientApr 30 23:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: oh right cool :)Apr 30 23:41
sebsebsebanyway turns out _Goblin found proper useage for the Compiz cube, as I just found out in this old episode I am listening toApr 30 23:42
_Goblintalking of which....Apr 30 23:42
DaemonFC_Goblin, Seamonkey 2.0 builds are obviously slowApr 30 23:42
DaemonFCthey still use the same Gecko as Firefox 3.5Apr 30 23:42
_Goblinthe cube appeared very well when me and roy were sharing my desktop....Apr 30 23:42
DaemonFCthe 2.1 betas or nightlies are what you should be looking atApr 30 23:43
_Goblininfact  I believe compiz played very nicely....Apr 30 23:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah Comipz can work thorugh vnc I thinkApr 30 23:43
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_Goblinwe were using the desktop sharing feature through Skype and I have to say, I was quite impressed by how little issue we found with it....Apr 30 23:44
sebsebseb_Goblin: yep saw that video last niightApr 30 23:44
_GoblinDid we get to the cube or had we cut off recording? I can't remember.Apr 30 23:44
sebsebsebdon't ermember seeing the compiz cube in the videoApr 30 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @rgl_LPC Canadians elect Members of Parliament, not Prime Ministers - We live in !Canada, not the U.S. of A. !Elxn41 !cdnpoliApr 30 23:45
_Goblinstill haven't sorted out the bug with Emerald though...Apr 30 23:46
_Goblinit seems randomly windows will loose all decoration and containment after closing certain packages...randomly...Apr 30 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] DemocracyCanada Ontario police launch criminal probe into Layton leak !cdnpoli !elxn41 !NDPApr 30 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @faither if you had any idea what was on my mind right now, you wouldn't wish that, but I'll take it in the spirit it was meant tyApr 30 23:46
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_Goblinright.....minecraft or python.....Apr 30 23:50
_Goblinits I could have a cheeky little minecraft and wait until tomorrow for my Python works....Apr 30 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Whyte_69 A certain political party is counting on Canadian youth not voting. Prove them wrong, be heard Monday May 2nd !Elxn41 !CanadaApr 30 23:51
sebsebseb_Goblin: Why doe the suggest guest, have email address showing? They may get spammedApr 30 23:52
cubezzzI'm here now Apr 30 23:52
sebsebsebcubezzz came back from the dead as a zombie _Goblin  ,but for some reason his human brain is pretty much still okApr 30 23:52
_Goblin:) hello mateApr 30 23:52
cubezzzheyApr 30 23:52
cubezzz1080's speaker is shot I'm afraidApr 30 23:53
_GoblinohApr 30 23:53
cubezzzvideo works thoughApr 30 23:53
cubezzzusing the LCD's audio insteadApr 30 23:53
_Goblinyou could always facilitate the stereo jacks at the rear of the amigaApr 30 23:53
cubezzzwell at least I have sound nowApr 30 23:55
MinceRgnApr 30 23:55
_GoblinI'll snap it shortly and stick it on twitpic....if you still want it, I'll trundle over to the post office on Tuesday (since monday its bank holiday)Apr 30 23:56
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cubezzzyep, still need the video cable as I'm on mono at the moment :)Apr 30 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ElizabethMayI support identifying our needs in replacing the F18s. Then put it out to tender. The F35s won't make the cut. !elxn41 !gpcApr 30 23:56
cubezzzmuchly appreciatedApr 30 23:56
cubezzzno problem, I've waited years to have an amiga againApr 30 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @judymclarty !elxn41 !cdnpoli With the $$ we're spending being in wars we could prob. send everyone to university for free & do daycare.Apr 30 23:58

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