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| schestowitz | > The petition was submitted to /. and was deleted. I wonder.... | Jun 01 00:24 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 00:24 |
| schestowitz | > It seems like Apache might get OOo from Oracle > which is not so | Jun 01 00:24 |
| schestowitz | > beneficial as it permanently fractures a community. I think Oracle doing | Jun 01 00:24 |
| schestowitz | > this to spite the The Document Foundation | Jun 01 00:24 |
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| cinch | so, has anyone setup a mirror to the patches of suse linux enterprise products? | Jun 01 14:21 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is kaput | Jun 01 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Try Debian or SL or something | Jun 01 14:24 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is for businesses that want to pay Microsoft for GNU/Linux | Jun 01 14:25 |
| schestowitz | Now it's owned by Attachmate, a gold-certriied Microsoft partner | Jun 01 14:25 |
| cinch | rats | Jun 01 14:27 |
| cinch | i was hoping that someone would setup the CentOS equivalent for SLES | Jun 01 14:28 |
| MinceR | probably nobody thought that there was a point :> | Jun 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/05/31/open_source_givers_and_takers/ | Jun 01 14:29 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 400 Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.31 KB | Jun 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | "Except that no he doesn't, not for one second, you are just putting words into his mouth. In the quote you provide, he says it is ungrateful of Amazon not to contribute; that means he thinks it would be grateful of them if they did. Also, he says it is unwise of Amazon not to contribute, that means that he thinks it would be wise if they did." | Jun 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | cinch: Novell made it hard | Jun 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | They keep the source behind a wall . I wrote some articles about it in 2007. | Jun 01 14:30 |
| cinch | yea.. only subscribers get it | Jun 01 14:30 |
| cinch | and... if you are a subscriber, leaking the patches to others, then who says they wont ban you :/ | Jun 01 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Not just patches | Jun 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | The codebase too AFAIK, core packages | Jun 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | There was a discussion back then about GPL compliance, to | Jun 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | *too | Jun 01 14:32 |
| cinch | well you can download the source code of the base system, its on the DVD2 | Jun 01 14:32 |
| cinch | just not patches | Jun 01 14:32 |
| cinch | oh well, shame on novell, they have some really cool tech going for them | Jun 01 14:33 |
| schestowitz | had maybe | Jun 01 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Recently there hasn't been much | Jun 01 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Well, *cough Mono *cough* | Jun 01 14:33 |
| cinch | hehe | Jun 01 14:34 |
| MinceR | well, compiz was cool, shame it wasn't reliable | Jun 01 14:34 |
| MinceR | i can't recall anything else | Jun 01 14:35 |
| cinch | thing that irks me about CentOS/RHEL is they dont support upgrades from release to release | Jun 01 14:37 |
| cinch | its (from what ive heard on irc..) usually a complete reinstall | Jun 01 14:38 |
| cinch | unlike SLES | Jun 01 14:38 |
| cinch | but ok, in an enterprise environment, thats probably the normal way to handle upgrades anyways, to test before deploying | Jun 01 14:40 |
| cinch | so i'll probably go with CentOS | Jun 01 14:40 |
| MinceR | you can test before deploying and then upgrade all servers to next release | Jun 01 14:41 |
| MinceR | so they aren't mutually exclusive | Jun 01 14:41 |
| cinch | true | Jun 01 14:41 |
| MinceR | that said, i haven't used CentOS much | Jun 01 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | [14:34] <MinceR> well, compiz was cool, shame it wasn't reliable | Jun 01 14:49 |
| schestowitz | That was before Novell sold out | Jun 01 14:49 |
| schestowitz | THe main compiz dev is AFAIK in Canonical now | Jun 01 14:49 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 01 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Sam something.. | Jun 01 14:49 |
| schestowitz | The Novell guy might not be working on it anymore | Jun 01 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Ramen or something.. | Jun 01 14:49 |
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| ender_33 | cinch - dont go with centos | Jun 01 15:46 |
| ender_33 | centos still doesnt have 6.x | Jun 01 15:46 |
| ender_33 | slowpokes | Jun 01 15:47 |
| ender_33 | go with Scientific Linux | Jun 01 15:47 |
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| cinch | ender_33: thanks, i'll check them out :) | Jun 01 16:39 |
| cinch | reminds me of the 2 month period where CentOS didn't get any security updates :o | Jun 01 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Yeah... | Jun 01 16:40 |
| schestowitz | One of our clients had this concern | Jun 01 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Moving to Debian now | Jun 01 16:40 |
| ender_33 | yeah kind of annoying eh | Jun 01 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75099162 | Jun 01 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 16:55:42 UTC - Identi.ca: More #Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep #Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k still acting like a drunken criminal, oblivious to the law | Jun 01 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: More Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep Linux at Bay | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.33 KB | Jun 01 19:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/75997636368408576 | Jun 01 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot | @wayneborean: RT @schestowitz: #Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims http://is.gd/JjkGR2 #nokia #elop #mole | Jun 01 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims | Ashton Kusher .::. Size~: 23.13 KB | Jun 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Frightening stuff | Jun 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Like Microhoo | Jun 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Even the figurs are similar | Jun 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | *figures | Jun 01 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Puppet moved to apache? I didn't know... | Jun 01 20:06 |
| schestowitz | "Puppet is an open source configuration management tool. It is written in Ruby and released under the GPL until version 2.7.0 and the Apache 2.0 license after that." | Jun 01 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_%28software%29 | Jun 01 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Jun 01 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I've been having the computational server all to myself recently, almost nobody else uses it which is great. | Jun 01 20:12 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 01 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > The timing of my petition was awful, at least a day late... | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > Anyone know how to find out lists of cash sponsors to AF? | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > I see IBM here http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/ which makes me | Jun 01 23:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Public Records .::. Size~: 19.45 KB | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > nervious... | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > ""Meanwhile, IBM is emerging as Oracle's go-to power partner on open | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > source and Java. This is creating an inescapable sense that the duo are | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > turning open-source projects into corporate incubators they can either | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > ordain or sideline to suit their | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | > objectives." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/01/oracle_openoffice_apache/ | Jun 01 23:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Oracle drops OpenOffice on Apache, shuns forkers • The Register .::. Size~: 24.35 KB | Jun 01 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Given is a Microsoft booster, so don't pay much attention to him. One AF sponsor is Microsoft, but they don't pay the ASF much. | Jun 01 23:53 |
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